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Arkansas Dem Party Chairman Shot

Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:59:31 am PDT

The chairman of the Arkansas Democratic Party is in critical condition after being shot by a man who is now in police custody. Still developing...

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1 Ward Cleaver  8/13/08 11:00:19 am reply quote 0

Not good.

2 Pullus Iulius  8/13/08 11:01:20 am reply quote 3

Prayers for his recovery.

3 thedopefishlives  8/13/08 11:01:29 am reply quote 1

Ugh. Why do people have to be so STUPID?

I hope the man is able to recover and that his attacker suffers an appropriate penalty for his dumbassness.

4 Ward Cleaver  8/13/08 11:01:48 am reply quote 0

Prayers going out for Mr. Gwatney.

5 Rogue198  8/13/08 11:01:56 am reply quote 1

Wonder how long until unsubstantiated claims that it's all Bush's or Rush's fault...

6 Killgore Trout  8/13/08 11:02:06 am reply quote 0

Hmmmm...it doesn't look like a random act of violence or a robbery attempt.

7 X-ray  8/13/08 11:02:09 am reply quote 0

A prayer for his survival and speedy recovery.

8 Occasional Reader  8/13/08 11:02:26 am reply quote 0

Holy f**king sh*t.

9 jcm  8/13/08 11:02:44 am reply quote 0

Prayers for him and his family.

10 faraway  8/13/08 11:02:45 am reply quote -3

He is a white guy that was shot by another white guy.

He was a Clinton supporter.

11 Ward Cleaver  8/13/08 11:03:12 am reply quote 0

The name Gwatney sounds familiar. Aren't there some car dealerships in Arkansas with the Gwatney name on them?

12 Killgore Trout  8/13/08 11:04:49 am reply quote 0

A few more details....
UPDATED: Bill Gwatney Shot at Arkansas Democratic Party HQ

Officers told the CBS affiliate that police pursued a white male suspect in his 40's, driving a pickup truck, into Grant County. KTHV reported that officers apprehended him in Sheridan, and that he was shot during his capture.

13 faraway  8/13/08 11:05:34 am reply quote 0

re: #11 Ward Cleaver

The name Gwatney sounds familiar. Aren't there some car dealerships in Arkansas with the Gwatney name on them?

Campaign contr. list shows he gave $$ with employer listed as Gwatney Chevrolet/Car Dealer

14 eaglewingz08  8/13/08 11:05:52 am reply quote 0

I pray for his speedy recovery. Hillary needs all the delegates she can get at the convention. I read that the supposed suspect was shot, maybe that's inoperative now?

15 Cognito  8/13/08 11:05:58 am reply quote 0
One witness said the man came into the headquarters at 10 minutes before noon and asked for Gwatney before allegedly shooting him three times, KTHV said.

Wow.

16 Occasional Reader  8/13/08 11:06:05 am reply quote 0

Hopefully the attacker, vehicle and maybe even license plate were caught on video, and he can be apprehended quickly.

17 willowone  8/13/08 11:06:21 am reply quote 0

prayers for health and his family.

18 godfrey  8/13/08 11:06:30 am reply quote 0

Good grief.

19 Cognito  8/13/08 11:06:36 am reply quote 0

re: #16 Occasional Reader

Hopefully the attacker, vehicle and maybe even license plate were caught on video, and he can be apprehended quickly.

They've caught and shot him, apparently.

20 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  8/13/08 11:06:47 am reply quote 10

I'm proud that Charles can post a story like this & not have to turn off the comments, unlike Huff Puff & Koz when any violence or illness happens to conservatives.

21 Charles  8/13/08 11:06:58 am reply quote 2

re: #16 Occasional Reader

Hopefully the attacker, vehicle and maybe even license plate were caught on video, and he can be apprehended quickly.

They've already caught him, after a 25-mile car chase.

22 Killgore Trout  8/13/08 11:07:23 am reply quote 1

Bill Gwatney

Bill Gwatney, as a superdelegate, has endorsed Hillary Clinton for President.

23 itellu3times  8/13/08 11:07:28 am reply quote 9

What do you bet it's unrelated to politics?

24 WeddingGuy  8/13/08 11:07:28 am reply quote 0

Fargin Bastages! Here's to a speedy recovery and swift justice!

25 mossley  8/13/08 11:07:48 am reply quote 0

Prayers for his recovery.

26 doppelganglander  8/13/08 11:07:52 am reply quote 2

re: #12 Killgore Trout

Good. I wonder if this was political or personal.

27 Ward Cleaver  8/13/08 11:08:27 am reply quote 0

re: #11 Ward Cleaver

The name Gwatney sounds familiar. Aren't there some car dealerships in Arkansas with the Gwatney name on them?

Ah yes, here we go. He's the son of Harold Gwatney, who started car dealerships in Little Rock and Jacksonville, AR, and Memphis, TN. Bill Gwatney runs Gwatney Chevrolet in Jacksonville.

28 joncelli  8/13/08 11:09:00 am reply quote 1

re: #23 itellu3times

Could be. Bad business deal, jealous husband, something like that.

29 Ford_Prefect  8/13/08 11:09:50 am reply quote 0

Here is hoping that the victim is alright and the idiot shooter isn't.

30 Pyrocles  8/13/08 11:10:33 am reply quote 0

Violent nutjobs are really coming out of the woodwork lately. That beheading with cannibalism in Canada, ROP and non-ROP knife-wielding maniacs in China, the guy planning to assassinate Obama and Bush, now another wanna-be assassin.

31 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  8/13/08 11:10:38 am reply quote 2

re: #23 itellu3times

What do you bet it's unrelated to politics?

Very likely. Doesn't seem like someone trying to send a political message.

32 Eowyn2  8/13/08 11:10:59 am reply quote 0

re: #6 Killgore Trout

Hmmmm...it doesn't look like a random act of violence or a robbery attempt.


definately not since he asked specifically for the guy.

33 Killian Bundy  8/13/08 11:11:03 am reply quote 0
asked to speak with Gwatney

/personal grudge

34 Kenneth  8/13/08 11:11:03 am reply quote 0

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Bill Gwatney

Is this the motive?

35 Occasional Reader  8/13/08 11:11:11 am reply quote 0

re: #19 Cognito

They've caught and shot him, apparently.

Hopefully, not in that particular order...

Good that he's caught, either way.

36 Ward Cleaver  8/13/08 11:11:14 am reply quote 0

re: #24 WeddingGuy

Fargin Bastages! Here's to a speedy recovery and swift justice!

They still have some gallows in Fort Smith, used by the hanging judge there in territorial days.

37 maddogg  8/13/08 11:11:26 am reply quote 0

re: #11 Ward Cleaver

The name Gwatney sounds familiar. Aren't there some car dealerships in Arkansas with the Gwatney name on them?


Yes.

38 realwest  8/13/08 11:11:30 am reply quote 0

Just astounding - FOX news DID REPORT that it was a Black man who shot him and was arrested at the scene!
Geez, what a day!

39 RTLM  8/13/08 11:11:45 am reply quote 0

Reports are that the shooter was shot during capture.

40 Ford_Prefect  8/13/08 11:11:51 am reply quote 0

re: #31 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Very likely. Doesn't seem like someone trying to send a political message.

Let's wait for the dust to clear before making assumptions.

41 Eowyn2  8/13/08 11:11:59 am reply quote 1

re: #28 joncelli

Could be. Bad business deal, jealous husband, something like that.


its arkansas. it would have to be an extraordinarily bad business deal.

42 willowone  8/13/08 11:12:10 am reply quote 1

superdelegate for hillary

43 trailortrash  8/13/08 11:12:31 am reply quote 1

:( hate to hear this.

44 Killgore Trout  8/13/08 11:13:01 am reply quote 0

re: #34 Kenneth

If it's political it could be a far left nut or a far right nut. It might have been personal. Maybe he was sleeping with someone's wife or sold somebody a bad car. Anything's possible.

45 RTLM  8/13/08 11:13:30 am reply quote 0

re: #42 willowone

Obama supporter?

46 redc1c4  8/13/08 11:14:03 am reply quote 0

re: #38 realwest

Just astounding - FOX news DID REPORT that it was a Black man who shot him and was arrested at the scene!
Geez, what a day!

that's gonna be ugly, if true.....

47 willowone  8/13/08 11:14:09 am reply quote 0

dunno, i doubt even they would do something like this as bizzare as they are

48 maddogg  8/13/08 11:14:24 am reply quote 0

So, lets give convicted felons the vote, shall we?

49 willowone  8/13/08 11:14:25 am reply quote 0

in fact i don't even want to go there

50 Pawn of the Oppressor  8/13/08 11:14:28 am reply quote 3

re: #44 Killgore Trout

If it's political it could be a far left nut or a far right nut. It might have been personal. Maybe he was sleeping with someone's wife or sold somebody a bad car. Anything's possible.

Nonsense. Obviously this is a Bushitlerco False Flag Operation to...

...oh, never mind.

/

(I hope for justice and recovery here... Random personal shootings are miserable and cowardly)

51 looking closely  8/13/08 11:14:28 am reply quote 21

I want politics by ballots, not by bullets.

Shame on this shooter, and also to those individuals who repeatedly call for violence to elected officials.

52 maddogg  8/13/08 11:15:34 am reply quote 4

re: #51 looking closely

I want politics by ballots, not by bullets.

Shame on this shooter, and also to those individuals who repeatedly call for violence to elected officials.

You have no way of knowing what the shooter's motivation was, so why blame it on politics?

53 willowone  8/13/08 11:15:44 am reply quote 0

re: #51 looking closely
i'd ding you up 10 if i could

54 Ward Cleaver  8/13/08 11:15:44 am reply quote 6

It's way too early to start speculating on a cause.

55 Eowyn2  8/13/08 11:15:50 am reply quote 0

re: #46 redc1c4

that's gonna be ugly, if true.....


the article says a white man.

56 formercorpsman  8/13/08 11:16:01 am reply quote 0

re: #6 Killgore Trout

Indeed.

57 willowone  8/13/08 11:16:58 am reply quote 1

re: #52 maddogg
haha, i might be getting ods myself : } kidding, we'll know facts in a few days. bad for us to jump now i think

58 Pawn of the Oppressor  8/13/08 11:17:02 am reply quote 0

Not sure what I mean by "random personal shooting" there... Odd turn of phrase, almost oxymoronic. I meant that if you're going to fight a guy, fight him face to face, off of work hours, without any damned guns... I hate this narcissistic gangster shit. Shoot a guy, start a chase, get caught, your mom goes on TV and says you're innocent, the guy you shot has three kids or something... Same old stupid crap. For what?

59 Cognito  8/13/08 11:17:21 am reply quote 0

re: #54 Ward Cleaver

It's way too early to start speculating on a cause.

Indeed. Any speculation at this point -- in any regard -- is pretty baseless.

Waiting for facts.

60 mossley  8/13/08 11:17:22 am reply quote 0

re: #51 looking closely

I want politics by ballots, not by bullets.

Shame on this shooter, and also to those individuals who repeatedly call for violence to elected officials.


I agree that the calls for violence are disgusting, but we don't know what his motives are yet.

61 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  8/13/08 11:17:34 am reply quote 0

re: #40 Ford_Prefect

Let's wait for the dust to clear before making assumptions.

I would think if it were political, he would have shot more people at the headquarters. Since he went in and shot just one person, I'm assuming it was personal.

Just my opinion.

62 Eowyn2  8/13/08 11:17:45 am reply quote 0

re: #51 looking closely

I want politics by ballots, not by bullets.

Shame on this shooter, and also to those individuals who repeatedly call for violence to elected officials.

Why do people call for violence to elected officials.
I could understand that if we lived in a country which did not allow us to vote for a choice (the lesser of two weavils) but really, we can and have voted people out of office.

63 looking closely  8/13/08 11:17:55 am reply quote 1

re: #52 maddogg

You have no way of knowing what the shooter's motivation was, so why blame it on politics?


Read my post again. I didn't blame anyone.

I'm saying that repeatedly calling for violence against elected officials (which does NOT apply to this man, who AFAIK doesn't hold elected office) is bad.
Get it?

64 maddogg  8/13/08 11:18:02 am reply quote 0

For all we know, it was a crackhead doing a mugging.

65 Killian Bundy  8/13/08 11:18:53 am reply quote 2

FOX NEWS ALERT/BREAKING NEWS

/a reporter talked to Calee Anthony's grandmother!

66 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  8/13/08 11:19:39 am reply quote 0

re: #64 maddogg

For all we know, it was a crackhead doing a mugging.

No, the initial facts seem pretty clear. Shooter asked to see the victim. Secretary stopped him. He went in anyways to shoot the victim and ran. No random incident or other crime. The shooter had a specific target in mind.

67 trailortrash  8/13/08 11:19:40 am reply quote 4

re: #65 Killian Bundy

FOX NEWS ALERT/BREAKING NEWS

/a reporter talked to Calee Anthony's grandmother!

that is getting old isnt it, i wish they would just report whne its figured out instead of each fart these people make...

68 lawhawk  8/13/08 11:19:43 am reply quote 0

Not the first time there's been violence at campaign offices this election season either. Last November there was a hostage incident at Clinton's NH offices where the nut claimed to have a bomb. That situation ended peacefully.

Sadly, that's not the case here.

Not sure what the motive in today's shooting is, but thoughts and prayers go out to his family.

69 maddogg  8/13/08 11:20:14 am reply quote 0

re: #63 looking closely

Read my post again. I didn't blame anyone.

I'm saying that repeatedly calling for violence against elected officials (which does NOT apply to this man, who AFAIK doesn't hold elected office) is bad.
Get it?

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought your post was remotely connected to the topic of discussion.

70 kynna  8/13/08 11:20:15 am reply quote 0

I'm very curious about the motive. It makes no sense politically. Could be a personal grudge. Could be a business issue. Could have to do with Arkansas voter regulations that Gwatney couldn't do anything about.

Prayers for him and his family.

71 JammieWearingFool  8/13/08 11:20:30 am reply quote 2

I'm timing the question.

72 Maximu§  8/13/08 11:20:51 am reply quote 1

re: #7 X-ray

A prayer for his survival and speedy recovery.


Amen, I hope they catch the POS who shot him.

73 Eowyn2  8/13/08 11:21:00 am reply quote 0

re: #61 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I would think if it were political, he would have shot more people at the headquarters. Since he went in and shot just one person, I'm assuming it was personal.

Just my opinion.

according to the article, he went into the office, asked to see the man, and when the secretary said no, he went in anyway and started shooting. that doesnt sound like a drive-by to me either.

74 JammieWearingFool  8/13/08 11:21:04 am reply quote 5

re: #65 Killian Bundy

FOX NEWS ALERT/BREAKING NEWS

/a reporter talked to Calee Anthony's grandmother!

Her grandmother found Natalee Holloway.

75 Silhouette  8/13/08 11:21:08 am reply quote 0

re: #59 Cognito

Indeed. Any speculation at this point -- in any regard -- is pretty baseless.

Waiting for facts.

But when you have the facts, it is too late for speculation.

Just making a funny. I too have no idea is this was "random", personal, political, or other, and don't think guessing helps at all here. Prayers for the gentleman attacked, his family, and for the police as they try to sort all this out.

76 Iron Fist  8/13/08 11:21:31 am reply quote 0

re: #61 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That seem s like pretty sound reasoning. Let's hope the victim comes out alright. While I badly want to see the Dems humiliated at the polls, I don't want to see them shot (unless they shoot first, of course).

77 maddogg  8/13/08 11:21:36 am reply quote 0

re: #66 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

No, the initial facts seem pretty clear. Shooter asked to see the victim. Secretary stopped him. He went in anyways to shoot the victim and ran. No random incident or other crime. The shooter had a specific target in mind.

OK. Not random. I stand corrected.

78 CapeCoddah  8/13/08 11:21:45 am reply quote 1

Good lord, why do people do stupid things like this, I will never understand it. This is America not a nation where he who shoots the wins power. This gives all of America a black eye, when we are supposed to be the country that is famous and looked to in awe throughout history for our peaceful political process and transfers of power. Hope the chairman is going to be all right.

79 RTLM  8/13/08 11:21:49 am reply quote 0

[Link: wcco.com...]

The secretary described the man as in his 40s and white and drove off in a blue truck.

80 looking closely  8/13/08 11:22:13 am reply quote 0

re: #62 Eowyn2

Why do people call for violence to elected officials.

I could understand that if we lived in a country which did not allow us to vote for a choice (the lesser of two weavils) but really, we can and have voted people out of office.


Its a sign of basic distrust of the electoral system (and often simply immaturity).

It isn't it interesting that those who most often claim the electoral system is being abused, are the quickest to advocate the worst abuse of all. . .political violence?

And in case my implication isn't clear, I was alluding to bloggers who frequently make comments about public officials getting terminally ill, dying, or being killed. (As a rule, they frequent political blogs other than this one).

81 Eowyn2  8/13/08 11:22:14 am reply quote 0

re: #71 JammieWearingFool

I'm timing the question.

six minutes and 32 seconds

82 Silhouette  8/13/08 11:22:28 am reply quote 0

re: #68 lawhawk

Not the first time there's been violence at campaign offices this election season either. Last November there was a hostage incident at Clinton's NH offices where the nut claimed to have a bomb. That situation ended peacefully.

We had a drive-by shooting at the Bush headquarters during the last election cycle. This a week after "vandals" had painted a body outline (as in dead body) on the parking lot outside.

83 redc1c4  8/13/08 11:22:43 am reply quote 0

re: #55 Eowyn2

the article says a white man.

and the AP is *never* wrong...... things are always confused at this point in an event.

84 Quilly Mammoth  8/13/08 11:23:50 am reply quote 0

Bill Gwatney owns multiple dealerships. After I got out of the Army I worked for a short period in the car business. Threats over bad car deals were fairly common and a _lot_ of people carried for exactly that reason.

Too early to say if this was because of his support for HRC or political at all.

85 Ward Cleaver  8/13/08 11:24:35 am reply quote 0

re: #65 Killian Bundy

FOX NEWS ALERT/BREAKING NEWS

/a reporter talked to Calee Anthony's grandmother!

Caylee's grandmother shot Gwatney? Now I'm confused.

/

86 doppelganglander  8/13/08 11:24:55 am reply quote 6

Why is it so often the mother or grandmother gets on TV to say her boy couldn't possibly be guilty, because he's a good boy? My mother once told me, if I ever committed a crime, she'd be the first one to turn me in because she raised me better than that. I feel the same way about my kids. Are we bad people?

87 redc1c4  8/13/08 11:25:14 am reply quote 0

re: #72 Maximu§

Amen, I hope they catch the POS who shot him.

i'll drink to that.....

/you have message traffic

88 Eowyn2  8/13/08 11:25:55 am reply quote 0

re: #83 redc1c4

and the AP is *never* wrong...... things are always confused at this point in an event.

Really, Hells bells, I ought to start reading more AP articles. Then I'd always know the right from the wrong.

Seriously, my statement was to inform, inform that we dont know whether the shooter is black, white, hispanic (maybe that will be the CNN take) or a German Shephard. We can probably assume male because well, at least two reports did state that the shooter was a man.

89 Ward Cleaver  8/13/08 11:26:02 am reply quote 0

re: #84 Quilly Mammoth

Bill Gwatney owns multiple dealerships. After I got out of the Army I worked for a short period in the car business. Threats over bad car deals were fairly common and a _lot_ of people carried for exactly that reason.

Too early to say if this was because of his support for HRC or political at all.

Wow.

90 Lawrence Schmerel  8/13/08 11:26:11 am reply quote 0

Maybe the Obama Campaign and the Hillary Campaign are waging a secret mafia-style war. Maybe this is the first salvo from the Obama crime family. Maybe the Clinton crime family will retaliate by whacking one of Obama's super delegates. Bodies will be piling up soon.

91 buzzsawmonkey  8/13/08 11:26:55 am reply quote 7

re: #90 Lawrence Schmerel

Maybe the Obama Campaign and the Hillary Campaign are waging a secret mafia-style war. Maybe this is the first salvo from the Obama crime family. Maybe the Clinton crime family will retaliate by whacking one of Obama's super delegates. Bodies will be piling up soon.

Bill Clinton will be the first to go to the mattresses.

92 willowone  8/13/08 11:27:05 am reply quote 0

re: #79 RTLM
a chevy?

93 Eowyn2  8/13/08 11:27:27 am reply quote 1

re: #90 Lawrence Schmerel

Maybe the Obama Campaign and the Hillary Campaign are waging a secret mafia-style war. Maybe this is the first salvo from the Obama crime family. Maybe the Clinton crime family will retaliate by whacking one of Obama's super delegates. Bodies will be piling up soon.

not in the least bit funny or cute

94 MandyManners  8/13/08 11:27:41 am reply quote 1

re: #90 Lawrence Schmerel

Maybe the Obama Campaign and the Hillary Campaign are waging a secret mafia-style war. Maybe this is the first salvo from the Obama crime family. Maybe the Clinton crime family will retaliate by whacking one of Obama's super delegates. Bodies will be piling up soon.

PETA will pitch a hissy fit if any horses are harmed.

95 Eowyn2  8/13/08 11:27:59 am reply quote 1

re: #91 buzzsawmonkey

Bill Clinton will be the first to go to the mattresses.


that is funny

96 Ward Cleaver  8/13/08 11:27:59 am reply quote 0

re: #92 willowone

a chevy?

With a Gwatney emblem on the back?

97 looking closely  8/13/08 11:28:17 am reply quote 0

re: #69 maddogg

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought your post was remotely connected to the topic of discussion.


It is remotely connected, and I'm slightly changing the topic. See above.

I condemn this attack regardless of its motivation (which is at the moment unclear), but relevant to this blog , I'm making the point that wishing people dead is really inappropriate.

Remember this?

98 Pawn of the Oppressor  8/13/08 11:28:39 am reply quote 1

re: #86 doppelganglander

Why is it so often the mother or grandmother gets on TV to say her boy couldn't possibly be guilty, because he's a good boy? My mother once told me, if I ever committed a crime, she'd be the first one to turn me in because she raised me better than that. I feel the same way about my kids. Are we bad people?

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

I told my mother that if I ever snapped and committed some kind of heinous crime, that she was not allowed to go on TV and say I was innocent. I told her that she should only say that they did the best they could, and that they evidently failed, and that if I was found guilty and locked up, that I earned my punishment fair and square.

99 MoonbatBane  8/13/08 11:29:13 am reply quote 0

re: #16 Occasional Reader

Shooter is already apprehended.

100 willowone  8/13/08 11:29:22 am reply quote 0

dunno if anyone wants to wade threw this muck. but here it is. Charles might slap (or boot my rear)me but i looked up deleagte threats and here i Landed [Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...] bizzare and doubtful

101 Colonel Panik  8/13/08 11:29:24 am reply quote 0

re: #90 Lawrence Schmerel

Maybe the Obama Campaign and the Hillary Campaign are waging a secret mafia-style war. Maybe this is the first salvo from the Obama crime family. Maybe the Clinton crime family will retaliate by whacking one of Obama's super delegates. Bodies will be piling up soon.

The Chicago Mob vs. the Dixie Mafia?

102 looking closely  8/13/08 11:29:41 am reply quote 0

re: #98 Pawn of the Oppressor

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

I told my mother that if I ever snapped and committed some kind of heinous crime, that she was not allowed to go on TV and say I was innocent. I told her that she should only say that they did the best they could, and that they evidently failed, and that if I was found guilty and locked up, that I earned my punishment fair and square.

What if you WERE innocent?
/(Or clearly she is supposed to know you better than that!).

103 maddogg  8/13/08 11:29:54 am reply quote 0

re: #90 Lawrence Schmerel

Maybe the Obama Campaign and the Hillary Campaign are waging a secret mafia-style war. Maybe this is the first salvo from the Obama crime family. Maybe the Clinton crime family will retaliate by whacking one of Obama's super delegates. Bodies will be piling up soon.

I did a rather graphic "picture this" post on that subject a couple of weeks ago, but stinky plowed in under PDQ:)

Guess it was a tad gruesome.

104 redc1c4  8/13/08 11:31:03 am reply quote 1

re: #88 Eowyn2

Really, Hells bells, I ought to start reading more AP articles. Then I'd always know the right from the wrong.

Seriously, my statement was to inform, inform that we dont know whether the shooter is black, white, hispanic (maybe that will be the CNN take) or a German Shephard. We can probably assume male because well, at least two reports did state that the shooter was a man.

re: #93 Eowyn2

not in the least bit funny or cute

tacky? yes.
tasteless? yes.
black humor? yes..........

/of course i smiled when i read it. %-)

105 maddogg  8/13/08 11:32:01 am reply quote 0

re: #97 looking closely

Acknowledged.

106 redc1c4  8/13/08 11:32:19 am reply quote 0

re: #104 redc1c4

ignore the #88 part.

/damn PC %-)

107 looking closely  8/13/08 11:32:22 am reply quote 0

re: #90 Lawrence Schmerel

Maybe the Obama Campaign and the Hillary Campaign are waging a secret mafia-style war.


Obama did refer to the "Chicago way", but IMO this is over the top.

108 Ben Hur  8/13/08 11:32:28 am reply quote 2

Paris anti-Semitic T-shirt probe

French prosecutors have opened an investigation after T-shirts carrying anti-Semitic slogans were seen on sale in a shop in Paris.

The tops carried slogans in German and Polish that translate as "Jews forbidden from entering the park".

They were reproduced from Nazi signs from 1940 that targeted the Jewish community in the Polish town of Lodz.

Some 95% of more than 200,000 Jewish people there would die in concentration camps during World War II.

snip

The neighbourhood of Belleville in eastern Paris has been the site of ongoing scuffles between groups of Jewish youngsters and youths of North African origin.

France has one of the largest Jewish communities outside Israel, numbering about half a million people.


JEWS and who?

109 jorline  8/13/08 11:32:47 am reply quote 3

OT

Charles, this does not look good.

110 jcm  8/13/08 11:32:50 am reply quote 1

re: #51 looking closely

I want politics by ballots, not by bullets.

Shame on this shooter, and also to those individuals who repeatedly call for violence to elected officials.

Amen,
And if the ballots don't work out ... hang tight.
I know how it works WA the governorship was stolen, we just redoubled our efforts.

For those interested, the body of the Declaration of Independence sets the criteria for going to the bullet option.

111 Quilly Mammoth  8/13/08 11:32:51 am reply quote 1

And over at DU they are blaming "Right Wing Hate Radio".

112 lefty201  8/13/08 11:33:09 am reply quote 2

Prayers for him and his family. just because he's om the wrong side of the fence doesn't mean we have any less sympathy.

113 MoonbatBane  8/13/08 11:33:33 am reply quote 0

I just gotta comment that the difference between the comments here and the hate filled bile at kos couldn't be starker. For comparison, I offer the following re: kos: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

114 jcm  8/13/08 11:34:01 am reply quote 0

re: #74 JammieWearingFool

Her grandmother found Natalee Holloway.

Jimmy Hoffa had her?
/

115 Fat Jolly Penguin  8/13/08 11:34:13 am reply quote 0

re: #109 jorline

OT

Charles, this does not look good.

Oh, shit.

116 looking closely  8/13/08 11:34:36 am reply quote 1

re: #111 Quilly Mammoth

And over at DU they are blaming "Right Wing Hate Radio".

Mr. Kettle, I notice you are a bit black non-reflective today.

-Pot.

117 redc1c4  8/13/08 11:34:42 am reply quote 0

re: #88 Eowyn2

Really, Hells bells, I ought to start reading more AP articles. Then I'd always know the right from the wrong.

Seriously, my statement was to inform, inform that we dont know whether the shooter is black, white, hispanic (maybe that will be the CNN take) or a German Shephard. We can probably assume male because well, at least two reports did state that the shooter was a man.

that's pretty much what i was saying: there are conflicting reports, everyone's adrenaline is flowing, and sometimes, things get garbled..... hence the "24 hour rule"..... i wasn't criticizing you.

118 Dustyvet  8/13/08 11:35:03 am reply quote 0

re: #5 Rogue198

Wonder how long until unsubstantiated claims that it's all Bush's or Rush's fault...


In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...

119 jcm  8/13/08 11:35:12 am reply quote 1

re: #109 jorline

OT

Charles, this does not look good.

Nodrog gets his account back......

120 jorline  8/13/08 11:35:18 am reply quote 0

re: #115 Fat Jolly Penguin

Oh, shit.

My thoughts exactly JP

121 Spiny Norman  8/13/08 11:35:38 am reply quote