Blowin' in the wind....

(Colin Powell's allegiances, that is...)

WTF?

Something about birds of a feather?

Knew I never liked him...

Colin must be jealous of all the press time Wesley has been getting lately.

Stupid, stupid man. I always thought he loved America. I guess I was wrong.

OMG This makes me want to puke.

Colin Powell
1) told Bush 1 to end 1991 guld war to early and screwed the shites
2) Told Bush 2 to go to UN and then screwed that up
3) Failed to get Turkey to let the 4th ID in

Good bye and good riddence!

and speak at the Democratic Convention in Denver...

But since he plays a central role in the Dem conspiracy theory about Bushco's 2003 "lies" to get us into Iraq, will Powell be booed? Or will they instantly forget their lambasting of him and accept him with open arms now that he has switched sides?

This is news? I thought Powell had already gushed about Obama (if not formally endorsed him). Am I wrong?

Also -- Kristol said John McCain is likely to pick a pro-choice VP; he's told a Weekly Standard writer that "pro-life" will not be a litmus test for his veep pick.

Which puts both Joe Lieberman and Tom Ridge in the running...

Quisling.

Maybe he's bucking for a VP slot.

re: #10 zombie

But since he plays a central role in the Dem conspiracy theory about Bushco's 2003 "lies" to get us into Iraq, will Powell be booed? Or will they instantly forget their lambasting of him and accept him with open arms now that he has switched sides?

Instantly forget.

re: #11 Occasional Reader

This is news? I thought Powell had already gushed about Obama (if not formally endorsed him). Am I wrong?

You are not wrong.

And I'm sure the press will rip him apart just like they slammed Zell Miller for speaking at the GOP convention, right?

...Right?

re: #10 zombie

Excellent point.

OT: Russia moves NUKES into Ossentia

Ya know there are days when I think that I have woken up in Bizzaro World?

If you cast your mind back to 2000, there was some noise being made about Colin Powell running for Pres, but no one could figure out what party he identified with. As I remember, he never definitively said Dem or Repub, one way or the other.

He got a job in the Bush administration, but that doesn't mean he was necessarily a Republican.

He's been cagey about it always. I guess the cat is out of the bag.

re: #14 zombie

Maybe he's bucking for a VP slot.

Lot of people like and respect Powell. Might not be a bad choice.

*from a (D) prespective*

Would solve BHO lack of gravitas. (to coin a term).

re: #20 JamesTKirk

OT: Russia moves NUKES into Ossentia

fuck

re: #20 JamesTKirk

OT: Russia moves NUKES into Ossentia

Very questionable source there.

Well, Colin Powell never exactly struck me as being any kind of conservative. I suspect he knows there would be no place for him in a McCain administration, and he's simply backing the horse most likely to back him.

re: #22 zombie

If you cast your mind back to 2000, there was some noise being made about Colin Powell running for Pres, but no one could figure out what party he identified with. As I remember, he never definitively said Dem or Repub, one way or the other.

He got a job in the Bush administration, but that doesn't mean he was necessarily a Republican.

He's been cagey about it always. I guess the cat is out of the bag.

You mean rat don't ya?

A dumb thought? ....

An Obama/Powell ticket?

Powell is suffering from; Pre Traumatic Obama Syndrome.

Poi is the only known cure.

re: #20 JamesTKirk

OT: Russia moves NUKES into Ossentia

Holy Fuck!

Take the mothers out now.

Radio up date

Bill Gwatney died.

colin who?

re: #25 Charles

Very questionable source there.

To say the least.

re: #32 jcm

Radio up date

Bill Gwatney died.

That's awful.

re: #30 jcm

Holy Fuck!

Take the mothers out now.

There is no conceivable reason for Russia to do that. I don't believe it.

re: #32 jcm

Radio up date

Bill Gwatney died.

Ah, shit.

What a terrible day.

Hang on with that nuke story. The source is a moonbat.

Colin Powell was to the first Gulf War as General George McClellan was to the Civil War.

Abe Lincoln was right to fire his worthless general.
George Herbert Walker Bush should have fired Powell for letting Saddam Hussein live to start another war.

re: #23 jcm

Lot of people like and respect Powell. Might not be a bad choice.

*from a (D) prespective*

Would solve BHO lack of gravitas. (to coin a term).

That would be doubling down, yes?

I always wondered what game the "race" card was used in...

how, exactly, does colin powell help obama attract indies?

#25 Charles

re: #20 JamesTKirk

OT: Russia moves NUKES into Ossentia

Very questionable source there

From the link:

Col. Sam Gardiner notes, in an interview with Amy Goodman on Democracy Now, Russia has deployed tactical nuclear weapons to South Ossetia.

BEEEEEEP.

Try again.

"Democracy Now" borders on the crackpot at times.

OT - no article yet to use as spinoff
Just heard on the radio that Democratic Chairman Bill Gwatney has died from the gunshots.
Senseless.

re: #40 alegrias

Colin Powell was to the first Gulf War as General George McClellan was to the Civil War.

Abe Lincoln was right to fire his worthless general.
George Herbert Walker Bush should have fired Powell for letting Saddam Hussein live to start another war.

Amen

Not too large a surprise. The guy has been a RINO at best. Now he is endorsing Obama for racial reasons. He has always supported affirmative action, this is just a natural extension. Just my opinion.

Former secretary of state. State, says it all.

re: #20 JamesTKirk

OT: Russia moves NUKES into Ossentia

If this is true, with our military moving in to bring relief and humanitarian supplies to Georgia, it could get very interesting.

It could get interesting anyway, since Russia is obviously still on the move into Georgia...

re: #12 Charles

Also -- Kristol said John McCain is likely to pick a pro-choice VP; he's told a Weekly Standard writer that "pro-life" will not be a litmus test for his veep pick.

Which puts both Joe Lieberman and Tom Ridge in the running...

Please oh please, Giuliani.

re: #36 Nevergiveup

There is no conceivable reason for Russia to do that. I don't believe it.

I agree that would be serious escalation.

If they did get moved, they should be taken out ASAP.

re: #32 jcm

Radio up date

Bill Gwatney died.

OH wow. That's awful.

re: #22 zombie

If you cast your mind back to 2000, there was some noise being made about Colin Powell running for Pres, but no one could figure out what party he identified with. As I remember, he never definitively said Dem or Repub, one way or the other.

He got a job in the Bush administration, but that doesn't mean he was necessarily a Republican.

He's been cagey about it always. I guess the cat is out of the bag.

* * *
Colin Powell was advising the McCain campaign at one point.

He's like Sen. Chuck Hagel who used to back McCain, then Pres. Bush, then went to Iraq with Obama.

Wishy washy flip flopping, in a word, unfit for command.

Colin Powell.... bitter much?
I guess he's not getting enough love from the Republican party.

re: #38 Charles

Hang on with that nuke story. The source is a moonbat.

Well, feel a little better then

We've got Powell's number but like it or not him endorsing Obama is a game changer.

re: #44 zombie

"Democracy Now" borders on the crackpot at times.

I admire your restraint.

I would have said "Democracy Now" had long ago invaded and absorbed Crackpot and was eyeing Lunaticia and Batshit Crazistan hungrily.

re: #20 JamesTKirk

OT: Russia moves NUKES into Ossentia

Love this bit

The SS-21 Missile launchers are relatively weak compared to bombs that have already been used against Georgia by the Russian air force.

Wait, what? 100 thousand tons of tnt nuclear yield, vs. 250 kilogram air-dropped bombs? Even the conventional warhead on an SS-21 matches the entire bombload being carried on the Fencers that are attacking Georgian targets, judging by video stills.

The only thing you can take away from this is that the Russians are getting ready to blow up big point targets like, say, entire city blocks of Georgian towns...

re: #56 Opinionated

We've got Powell's number but like it or not him endorsing Obama is a game changer.

Absolutely. That's what scares me.

re: #25 Charles

Very questionable source there.

No kidding... this was in the comments section:

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re: #56 Opinionated

We've got Powell's number but like it or not him endorsing Obama is a game changer.

Maybe maybe not. And if it is, that does bring lieberman into play.

The affirmative action former secretary of state endorses the affirmative action presidential candidate.

I'm not surprised. Powell's a follower, not a leader. Whenever a guy like him is so quiet about so much I figure there's just not much there.

re: #32 jcm

Dammit.
May he rest in peace.... I am so sad for his large family....

re: #38 Charles

Hang on with that nuke story. The source is a moonbat.

Whew!

re: #48 likesbrusselssprouts

Former secretary of state. State, says it all.

Powell was Valerie PFlame's boss.
Powell's best friend Richard Armitage, his second in command at the STate department, outed Valerie PFlame.

Powell & his subordinate Armitage were too chicken to admit having outed Valerid Pflame.

Powell thus undermined the Vice President, his staff, and our country at war for three long years.

re: #22 zombie

He's been cagey about it always. I guess the cat is out of the bag.

Which cat would that be?

Otherwise moderate or conservative (on many issues) African Americans have spoken/written of their positive feelings toward Obama. It is not unexpected that some of them will actually endorse Obama.

re: #62 Dalibama

Colin Powell was a respected general. No evidence that he was an "affirmative action" Sec of State. He was qualified.

Tokenism? Possibly. But not affirmative action, in my book.

re: #25 Charles

Very questionable source there.

And ballistic missile do not necessarily have to have nukes. They can be conventional warheads.

re: #36 Nevergiveup

There is no conceivable reason for Russia to do that. I don't believe it.

They aren't OMG NUKES, they are mobile missiles that can launch big things. Think Scud. The Russians have evidently used them before in minor wars.

They are probably going to blow up a few small Georgian towns for sport just to drive the point home.

re: #57 OldLineTexan

I would have said "Democracy Now" had long ago invaded and absorbed Crackpot and was eyeing Lunaticia and Batshit Crazistan hungrily.

[doffs hat]

re: #66 alegrias

Powell was Valerie PFlame's boss.
Powell's best friend Richard Armitage, his second in command at the STate department, outed Valerie PFlame.

Powell & his subordinate Armitage were too chicken to admit having outed Valerid Pflame.

Powell thus undermined the Vice President, his staff, and our country at war for three long years.

Just another in a long line of creeps attracted to Obama.

re: #66 alegrias

I hesitate to even say this for fear it will be taken the wrong way, but Powell's being African American makes it more understandable, somehow.
If he were caucasian, it would be much more damaging to McCain, IMO.

re: #67 freetoken

Which cat would that be?

Otherwise moderate or conservative (on many issues) African Americans have spoken/written of their positive feelings toward Obama. It is not unexpected that some of them will actually endorse Obama.

Good Lord, I hate politics.

re: #67 freetoken

Which cat would that be?

Otherwise moderate or conservative (on many issues) African Americans have spoken/written of their positive feelings toward Obama. It is not unexpected that some of them will actually endorse Obama.

Fine, you want to vote for someone based on color- go ahead- as long as it is for city council, or maybe congress, but not for President of the United States. If you can't verbalize a single reason or single accomplishment of your canidate other than hope and change, don't even bother wasting my time.

re: #10 zombie

But since he plays a central role in the Dem conspiracy theory about Bushco's 2003 "lies" to get us into Iraq, will Powell be booed? Or will they instantly forget their lambasting of him and accept him with open arms now that he has switched sides?

They'll just rewrite the history of that period.

They've had a lot of practice doing that lately.

re: #12 Charles

Also -- Kristol said John McCain is likely to pick a pro-choice VP; he's told a Weekly Standard writer that "pro-life" will not be a litmus test for his veep pick.

Which puts both Joe Lieberman and Tom Ridge in the running...

He needs to pick a VP who can represent the future of the Republican Party. Lieberman and Ridge are both dead ends.

re: #19 cutestguy

Surely you jest!

Yes I jest..... and stop calling me Shirley.

Bada bing

re: #38 Charles

Hang on with that nuke story. The source is a moonbat.

The moonbat links to a news conference, it appears legit.

In terms of how we've responded to this, the President was informed immediately on Friday, when we received news of the first two SS-21 Russian missile launchers into Georgian territory. He immediately -- this was at the Great Hall -- he immediately met with President Putin. They had a discussion. The President then engaged with his national security staff continuously over the last two days. He has spoken with -- again with Putin that evening. He then talked with President Medvedev yesterday evening, as well as President Saakashvili. Secretary Rice has spoken repeatedly with President Saakashvili, as well as with her Russian counterpart, Foreign Minister Lavrov, and many European leaders.

Many black Republicans whom I know think Obama's candidacy is historically important. Some of them supported him against Hillary. None of them supports him for President. If Powell had been the GOP candidate for President in prior years, all of them, and I, would have supported him. His young wife refuses to let him run for elective office, however.

He's a skillful careerist who advanced himself within the Army bureaucracy using his significant bureaucratic skills. He sidestepped the massacre at My Lai, during the Vietnam War, where he commanded the unit responsible.

He served the current President well in the run-up to Iraq II. By failing to take early responsibility for Richard Armitage's leak of Valerie Plame's name to Novak, however, Powell blindsided the President, permitted Scooter Libby to take a bum rap, and therefore paralyzed the Administration he served during the "Fitzmas" investigation.

If this is true, it exposes one fact about Powell I've never suspected: race trumps party loyalty, experience, and respect for the military in his eyes. Too bad.

re: #68 zombie

Colin Powell was a respected general. No evidence that he was an "affirmative action" Sec of State. He was qualified.

Tokenism? Possibly. But not affirmative action, in my book.

I disagree. You look at his rise and there was nothing special about him that merited and explained his political postings.

What is being a token if not a form of Affirmative Action?

re: #37 Occasional Reader

Ah, shit.

What a terrible day.

OT

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Monday- get to work at 6:30AM open door to find 3" of water covering entire building. SHut off sprinkler system. Call alarm company. Had a "low pressure supervisory" alarm Sunday evening at 1900 hours. Still haven't heard from the company as to why no one was called.

Tuesday 6:09 PM Newest granddaughter is born . Son is in military. SInce not married to mother, Gov't requires DNA test to start benefits. SHe kicks us out of hospital.

Wednesday 3:03PM Wife calls me screaming that the ceiling in our bedroom just fell all over the bedroom floor. Water heater (in attic) pipe broke, hosed down insulation above entire master bedroom and 1/2 of living room. Waiting on insurance adjuster, carpenter, and Servicemaster cleanup crew. WIsh me luck (PLEASE!)

Sorry, but who's Bill Gwatney?

powel is votng SKIN like 95% of the black comm.

How does this help Obama?

Dilutes the Bush is Evil meme

Colin Powell is old, dilutes the McCain is old meme, too.

If I were a Dem I would limit him to the role of Affirmative Action in America, not Foreign Policy - He might say something they wont want to hear.

Never mind. Just got my CNN breaking news....

Are you sure it was Gwatney that died? They're reporting that the suspect has died...

re: #28 jetprop

A dumb thought? ....

An Obama/Powell ticket?

Might not be that dumb a thought. Powell was Chairman of the JCS, after all. That he was consistently wrong about the advice he gave every president he served with will be swept under the table.

re: #84 yochanan

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I don't know how Colin Powell endorsing Obama will come off. Will moderates think he's doing this on principal or, dare I say it,because of race?

Note that with this Russian crisis, suddenly everyone's looking to McCain and what he has to say. Interesting - and not unexpected.

Nobody wants a whiff of stale B.O. when the big, bad neighborhood bully starts stomping around.

VOTE MCCAIN.

re: #38 Charles

Hang on with that nuke story. The source is a moonbat.

Might want to extend the 48-hour rule to 72 hours or so....

re: #79 bosforus

Check the main page of the website, it's a loony leftist idiocy, very pro-Russian. I don;t believe anything on it. Bogus.

re: #38 Charles

Hang on with that nuke story. The source is a moonbat.

OK, sorry. I saw it and posted just before running out the door.

I am very sorry to hear that. Yet, at the end of the day, he always seemed like a sheep in wolf's clothing.

re: #70 Pawn of the Oppressor

They aren't OMG NUKES, they are mobile missiles that can launch big things. Think Scud. The Russians have evidently used them before in minor wars.
They are probably going to blow up a few small Georgian towns for sport just to drive the point home.

Why waste a missile when you have air superiority?

Truth be told. Schwarzkopf was the real hero of the Gulf war, not Powell.

Powell as VP would be the death-blow to the B.O. candidacy. What next? Al Sharpton as Secretary of State? Jesse Jackson as Defence Secretary?

Or should that be DEE-fence, yo?

re: #43 DocDublU

how, exactly, does colin powell help obama attract indies?

Didn't the Dems, and Harry Connick Jr., spend a few years calling Colin a liar (and worse)?

Colon Polyp?

I hope Obama get's that looked at soon. Those can kill ya.

re: #82 saberry0530

Sounds like you need some prayer, too. Water heater in the attic, not a good idea. We could have had our solar water heater combined with the tank on the roof. Nixed that idea with visions of roofage ending up on the floor someday. On the ground, in the garage.

Could be a VP choice for Obama. It'd make sense in a Beltway sort of way. Powell would provide Obama cover on National Security, and Foreign Policy. However, Powell does have some problems:

1)He was the part of the Scrowcroft-Baker-Powell trifecta that convinced Bush 41 to allow the 3 RG divisions to return to Iraq. He also advised against going to Baghdad. Those 3 RG divisions massacred the Swamp Shiites.

2)He strongly was for a Peace Dividend. It was he who was for the retirement of all divisions in 7 Corps

3)His record as Sec of State as many have commented was abysmal.

He must clean his "Powell Lied (at the UN) and People Died" legacy and distance himself from Bush.

Or he wants a job.

The one good thing about this invasion is that it forced BHO to burn a good media card - the Colin Powell endorsement.

I bet he planned on saving that one until just after the Republican convention.

His internal polling snapshots must show him getting hammered.

#105, going to seem really racist here, but two African Americans may be a wee bit to some. Not to me if they were conservatives, but just saying......

re: #68 zombie

Colin Powell was a respected general. No evidence that he was an "affirmative action" Sec of State. He was qualified.

Tokenism? Possibly. But not affirmative action, in my book.

17 more qualified people were passed over when he was made general. It was affirmative action.

Thanks for the background on the source of the nuke launcher story, ya'll. Lots of fact-challenged reporting today.

Ninety percent + of black Democrats voted for Obama over Hitlery. My gut says this is about race. But I'm just an evil, bigoted white-devil, the source of all that's wrong with history, the present and the future.

re: #82 saberry0530

You poor thing. I hope it gets better from here.

re: #105 jpkoch

Yep. I could never understand why so many REP's went nuts over him.

re: #12 Charles

I've personally had dealings with Ridge, and he's bad news. He's not bright, and his instincts are thuggish. He cut some very unpleasant deals with the trial lawyers in Pennsylvania. He does look good compared to Putin, however! ;-)

re: #38 Charles

Hang on with that nuke story. The source is a moonbat.

And even if the launchers themselves are inside Georgia, it does NOT follow that tactical nuclear warheads are with them. According to FAS, the SS-21's primary warheads are conventional.

re: #100 Dustoff-507

Truth be told. Schwarzkopf was the real hero of the Gulf war, not Powell.

* * *
These generals blew it, they blew the surrender, letting Hussein have flyover rights to murder Kurds for 12 years.

Sorry, first Gulf War in retrospect was not the 'victory' I thought it was--just set us up because of these guys' lack of foresight.

Should have gone into Baghdad and cleaned house in 1991.

Powell stunk, cowering before CNN.

re: #115 alegrias

I so agree. The death highway was a good idea and Powell called it off... WRONG!

Barry and Colin have something other than race in common: certifiable, nut jobs for spouses.

Is anyone really surprised about this?

JC Watts seems to be tacitly endorsing the Messiah. Every time he goes on Sean Hannity's show, Hannity asks him about whether or not he will be voting for McCain and Watts always laughs and never answers him. I thought Watts was a big supporter of McCain in previous years?

And Armstrong Williams . . . I've heard him hesitate about whether or not he will vote for McCain for President.

BHO is the very antithesis of what these men have claimed to believe all these long years. Yet, when push comes to shove . . . identity politics win out over what is the best option for the country?

It's very disappointing to say the least

Martin Luther King Jr must be spinning in his grave.

re: #109 Dalibama

17 more qualified people were passed over when he was made general. It was affirmative action.

* * *
I know someone who knows the 'stellar' classmate who got "passed over" for Colin's appointment to the JOint Chiefs.

re: #107 de La Valette

The one good thing about this invasion is that it forced BHO to burn a good media card - the Colin Powell endorsement.

I bet he planned on saving that one until just after the Republican convention.

His internal polling snapshots must show him getting hammered.

Yup! You nailed it.

re: #20 JamesTKirk

OT: Russia moves NUKES into Ossentia

Can the SS-21 carry conventional warheads as well?

re: #121 CyanSnowHawk

Can the SS-21 carry conventional warheads as well?

See my #114 -- link to FAS

Color me not surprised that Colin Powell would support BO. There is no way he could possibly believe that given Bo's lack of any kind of experience, outside of community activist, that he is the more qualified candidate. This is strictly a racial issue.

Only 83 days until elections, MY FRIENDS!

Make the most of this time, as if our lives depended on it because they do!

Gotta run, hasta la vista lizards staying on watch.

God bless USA & Georgia and all our troops in danger's way.

re: #109 Dalibama

17 more qualified people were passed over when he was made general. It was affirmative action.

The promotion from colonel to brigadier general, and subsequent promotions, must always be made with politics in mind, because Congress has to approve general officer appointments.

He might have made it up to colonel on merit, but from that point on, politics were involved big time.

re: #9 Nevergiveup

Colin Powell
1) told Bush 1 to end 1991 guld war to early and screwed the shites
2) Told Bush 2 to go to UN and then screwed that up
3) Failed to get Turkey to let the 4th ID in

Good bye and good riddence!

Now he can be Obama's military advisor.

re: #110 Sol Roth

Thanks for the background on the source of the nuke launcher story, ya'll. Lots of fact-challenged reporting today.

Ninety percent + of black Democrats voted for Obama over Hitlery. My gut says this is about race. But I'm just an evil, bigoted white-devil, the source of all that's wrong with history, the present and the future.

Well, I'm so glad you've finally admitted it.
/

Powell was a courageous combat vet from the Vietnam Generation. Like many officers of that era, they carried many of the prejudices of their generation. They are mainly peaceniks who have very little regard for the service as a whole. The military at best is used as a negotiating chip and nothing else. To these thinkers, there is no good side or evil side. In their mind the moderates are just a moment away from seizing power. In their mind there are good commies, good Arab extremists, and war is never an option. Powell an his ilk are pacifists in uniform

re: #101 jetziger

Powell as VP would be the death-blow to the B.O. candidacy. What next? Al Sharpton as Secretary of State? Jesse Jackson as Defence Secretary?

Or should that be DEE-fence, yo?

How about M-O-B-Y?

I think this is revenge or something, on Colin's part. It sure as hell is not well thought out. I used to like him.

Powell spokeswoman Peggy Cifrino strongly denied the report. “There’s absolutely no truth to it whatsoever,” Cifrino told FOXNews.com. “Colin Powell will not be at either convention. There’s absolutely no truth to this.”

[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

We'll see.

Powell would be an idiot to come out for Obama but it wouldn't shock me. The left said some absolutely vile and racist things about him and I'd hate to see him go crawling to them in order to redeem himself.

re: #99 FreeIowa

Why waste a missile when you have air superiority?

because it is all about terror my good poster

but let me digress first....
a missle can be cheaper than a plane
our Tomahawks are a million per (and then some)
ok, a good plane costs 100 million maybe
some less, like 25 million, some over a billion
but you risk a potentially 100 million dollar aircraft every time you fly and the man driving it
maintenance costs on the plane are steep, not to mention the support crew you don't have with a missle
then you have that a plane can be brought down by the most deadly weapon a small POS army has, the markI eyeball (aka a lucky shot)
see history for an example

but, back on task
the plane makes a better TERROR weapon
if you have air superiority you can fly anywhere you want, right over treetops and scare the fuck out of the populace
and give your own troops some morale boosting

so there are reasons why they are using planes and it is not all about cost

I DO NOT believe this story. Period.

However, "anything is possible, if it happens."

The left is reporting that back in 2004, Powell read Saakashvili the riot act and told him to act with restraint when Russia was putting troops into the breakaway territories and granting them citizenship.

Once again on the wrong side of the issue....

re: #73 tradewind

I agree. And I am sure Obama's consultants will tell him the same thing. Too black too soon.

Just signed in and read the original article but not the comments....perhaps this has been said before and if so, sorry. This man, whom I have previously greatly admired now just makes me want to puke. Guess Alma has finally gotten her way with him. But he has been 'traitorous' for many months now. So sad, he is one hell of a soldier, but just a typical politician. :(

re: #25 Charles

Very questionable source there.

Exactly what I was going to say, Charles. The article quotes Democracy Now!, which is very questionable.

re: #130 rawmuse

I think this is revenge or something, on Colin's part.

Maybe, but I doubt it. He's always struck me as being a RINO, what with his prattling on about how it's wrong to "demonize" the poor etc.

ugh, i'm seriously brokenhearted.

i read powell so wrong for years. i thought he loved america

be back later .

I think that it will prove to be untrue. If true, it would be completely out of character for Colin. I have heard him speak on many occasions and have even shaken his hand. Same for Wesley Clark. Wes is capable of a full 180 pivot, Colin, not so much.

I had a flash of Guliani up on the diaz - and think that would be perfect. Powell falls prey to Identity politics that says people support who they identify with culturally - and so a black guy is supporting the black guy.

More blatant racisism on the left. How can they prove otherwise?

My boss was married to his nephew (or cousin-now deceased), and spent much time with Colin - she liked him.

Jim Geraghty at NRO has an interesting comment on the denials from the Powell camp:

If I believed in truly devious motives, I would speculate that someone leaked this in order to scuttle whatever discussions were going on between the Obama camp and Powell...

Hmm...

Just great.

Run Colin, run.

Damnit.

Well, you know it has to be said:

}:)     [Racist.]

Wouldn't suprise me in the least if Condi didn't come out and endorse Obama right before the election. Anti-semites seem to stick together. Not that we Lizards (most of us, anyway) couldn't loathe her more than we already loathe her.

well, if every prominent black person in America endorsed him, then it kind of seems that we indeed still have a race problem, one sided, but still a race problem

and affirmative action was a waste to even attempt making blacks feel welcome and accepted in society when they don't want to be a part of a non-black society

then again, we're talking Obama here
he'll toss Powell under the bus the moment someone links him to the first Gulf War and lying to the UN about WMD's

re: #148 SagamoreGal

Wouldn't suprise me in the least if Condi didn't come out and endorse Obama right before the election. Anti-semites seem to stick together. Not that we Lizards (most of us, anyway) couldn't loathe her more than we already loathe her.

Powell and Condi will vote for the Obamassiah, but not because they are anti-semites. Sorry, but polls say I have a 90% chance of being right.

re: #38 Charles

Hang on with that nuke story. The source is a moonbat.

That figures...

Colin Powell feels he was duped and used by the Bushies and the French in the run-up to the Iraq war, so he's recently seemed to keep a lower, quieter profile. He's never seemed the type to hanker for the extreme rigors of high office, or push himself to the political frontlines, where you automatically have a target painted on your back. After those WMD experiences, I bet that goes double.

He's kinda like the kid who already knows how it feels to get burnt, so I'd think Colin will be pretty cautious about exposing himself to further jeopardy. If Powell endorsed Obama and Barry proves to be failure or a gaffe-prone catastrophe in office, Powell's creds and legacy will be just about spent. I think he may be too cautious to allow that to happen.

Powell is the reason Saddam Hussein was left in power after Gulf War 1. He would be a lefty hero if he hadn't actually been on the side of the West in the run up to this war.

It might be fun to watch them turn themselves into pretzels. There's so much venom on record it would be a blast to stick it in their faces as big reminders.

What in the heck would the dork talk about though? Would he stand up there and say he was duped (a la Richard Clarke) and then proceeded to stick with the administration for a pretty good length of time afterward?

He should retire and live out the rest of his days with his wife and family. I don't hate him, but I certainly don't respect him as I once did.

One wonders if this is true. Mort Kondracke reportedly talked to Powell and got a denial.

Powell has always played things close to the vest, so it's hard to know his real thoughts. Hehas shown RINO (Republican In Name Only) leanings for a long time, and is in favor of affirmative action.

If he does endorse Obama, it brings race back into the race, big time - even if that is not Powell's reason.

The consequences of such an endorsement are hard to predict.

It would certainly lower my opinion of Powell dramatically.

Sad, I rather liked Colin Powell. Oh well. Each to his own.

What is it with generals that get passed over? Wesley Clark, Colin Powell, John Murtha(never made BG), Benedict Arnold. Many other turncoats. Patriots? Don't think so.

Is anyone really surprised about this? I always thought he was a lib in Republican disguise. Good ridddance, I hope he takes more RINOs with him.

re: #154 crotalis

I think it's sad that we even have to think about the possibility of a race discussion if Powell does endorse Obama. Frankly, why couldn't it just be a former cabinet member of a Republican administration endorsing a waffling liberal? People need to get over racial issues and realize that we're all freaking human beings.

Is it OK to say "RINO"s? That isnt rascist or anything is it?

re: #12 Charles

Also -- Kristol said John McCain is likely to pick a pro-choice VP; he's told a Weekly Standard writer that "pro-life" will not be a litmus test for his veep pick.

Which puts both Joe Lieberman and Tom Ridge in the running...

How does Kristol know this?

Lieberman is one of the better Dems, but IMO McCain would be insane to pick him. The Dems *and* the Republican bases would BOTH hate him.

I simply don't see it.

As to Powell, this is simply a disappointment, though I doubt his endorsement will mean much in the grand scheme of things. Nobody is going to vote for Obama purely based on Powell''s say so (though I could imagine the converse being true).

Black is thicker than water.

Powell Says He's Not Going to Dem Convention

re: #161 carbon footprint

It is only fair to point out that Shelby Steele and Thomas Sowell, both highly respected black conservative writers, are very much opposed to Brack Obama for sound ideological reasons.

Barack may get some votes from wishy-washy black Republicans, but the racial thing works both ways. I oppose Barack Obama because he espouses Marxism. Period.

Senator Obama's foreign policy seems to be somewhere between Rodney King's "Can't we just get along?" and Alfred E. Neuman's "What, me worry?" --Thomas Sowell

Powell BFD.

Glad to hear Powell isn't doing this and pulling a Wesley Clarke. I was thinking Soros got to him too and turned him into another pod person.

re: #162 SeafoodGumbo

Powell Says He's Not Going to Dem Convention

Finally we hear the straight poop from the horse's mouth instead of by proxy, to mix metaphors galore.

Chasing after skin color distorts everything

re: #25 Charles

re: #20 JamesTKirk

OT: Russia moves NUKES into Ossentia

Very questionable source there.

Very questionable people, these Ruskies too.

re: #155 Perplexed

Sad, I rather liked Colin Powell. Oh well. Each to his own.

Maybe it shows I don't pay enough attention to the details, sometimes, but I had imagined that a McCain/Powell ticket would have sunk Obama as fast as the Russian could/will.

Thank heavens Powell is not going to endorse Obama.

re: #159 rick554

"RINO" has become a democrat buzz word to split the hard right away from more centrist Republicans. Lets face it, in this election coming up we will need everyone we can get.

I know that Colin Powell has had a tendency to be wobbly, but I really cannot see him sacrificing his future for Obama.

Powell's answer is a non-answer. He doesn't have to "go" to the Democrat convention. He just has to appear on the large screen TV from the comfort of his own living room, and endorse Obama.

I read Powell's autobiography about the time he was being whooped up for president and got the impression that he has the soul of a soldier. Wouldn't be interested in high political office, but would snap up the command of an infantry division in a New York minute. Just an impression . . .

If he does endorse obama, I loose all respect I had for the man.

What is up with Kristol? And what's up with everyone believing this story?