Whacko on drugs with guns- never a good combination.

Definately seemed personal.

Disgruntled former employee?

i cant stand car dealers, but this is crazy.

re: #3 CIA Reject

Disgruntled former employee?

Creditor who he blamed for financial problems is my bet. Just going off gut feelings for that based on what info had been provided.

So will the moonbats retract?

/What is the temperature in Hell at the moment?

Considering he asked for the man _by name_, I would assume that he definitely knew his victim in some form.

The thing that makes me sad is, this man is going to be pointed at by the liberal Leftards as an example of why we need more gun control in this country.

So far, nothing about him working for Gwatney, and I still wonder about his connection to the Baptist Convention building, where he was seen brandishing the gun before going on the high speed chase.

He was, apparently, fired from Target just yesterday after scrawling graffiti.

What a tradgedy. Thank goodness it was not politically motivated.

First pass sounds like he had a beef over a percevied bad deal.

Just putting a giant lemon on top of your car and parking in front of the lot is more effective.

re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Creditor who he blamed for financial problems is my bet. Just going off gut feelings for that based on what info had been provided.

Would be interesting if this was a case where the guy was selling cars to people who he knew couldn't afford the payments, and then sold the paper afterward.

Not that such would stop Dems from lecturing us on subprime.

Another great argument for arming the general public with concealed carry handguns. Mr. Gwatney did not have to die.

re: #9 CapeCoddah

Since we don't know what the graffiti said, don't be too sure.

re: #10 jcm

First pass sounds like he had a beef over a percevied bad deal.

Just putting a giant lemon on top of your car and parking in front of the lot is more effective.

True, a giant lemon on top of that car usually gets the point across better to more people. Plus, it does have some humor value.

re: #7 thedopefishlives

Considering he asked for the man _by name_, I would assume that he definitely knew his victim in some form.

The thing that makes me sad is, this man is going to be pointed at by the liberal Leftards as an example of why we need more gun control in this country.

Every incident is, and you're hard pressed to find news of 750,000 documented cases each year where a gun prevents a crime.

re: #10 jcm

Maybe he was just looking for an Escort.

/Obscure Ford joke.

re: #3 CIA Reject

Disgruntled former employee?

He'd apparently been laid off from a Target (unless I'm scrambling stories from yesterday.) Don't know if he'd worked for one of the dealerships.

uhhh.... I hadn't heard anything about this story. Is there a reason why I should care about it?

re: #13 MikeySDCA

Here.

Today's THV has learned from an anonymous source that worked with 50-year-old Timothy Dale Johnson at the Conway Target that Johnson's rage started around 7 a.m. Wednesday.

Johnson's co-worker says graffiti laced with curse words concerning a hallway were found by management. The graffiti said, "This hall is too *** **** narrow."

Store managers called a meeting. We're told they asked if whoever wrote the graffiti to step forward and admit it and he or she wouldn't be fired. Our source says store management later found the same graffiti signed and dated by Johnson.

Over the next hour or so, Johnson's co-worker says he wrote on a door and another hallway again with objectionable words. "Target is run by dumb jocks and sorority *******."

A third graffiti was found on the human resources door saying, "sorority *******." Our source tells us that management talked with Johnson and then Johnson stormed off and left the building.

Conway police tell Today's THV they were called to Target around 8 a.m. about a disgruntled employee. When police arrived Johnson had already left.

re: #16 Cap'n DOC

Maybe he was just looking for an Escort.

/Obscure Ford joke.

Maybe he once owned a Pinto.

The Denver Cyanidist is reported to have been a schizophrenic off his medication. Per FoxesNews quoting the family.

Lots of crazy and violent people out there. (it's okay to be crazy, just don't think I'm a snake and stab me 149 times)

re: #16 Cap'n DOC

Maybe he was just looking for an Escort.

/Obscure Ford joke.

heh ,, I thought it was an overt HOOKER joke

re: #12 CapeCoddah

He's a Democrat, hence likely for gun control (it is, after all, in their Party Platform). I think they should have to live, and sometimes die, by the rules and laws they want to force on us.

re: #22 sattv4u2

Well... that was the backup plan.

re: #15 jcm

That doesn't fit the narrative the Press wants to present.

re: #16 Cap'n DOC

Maybe he was just looking for an Escort.

/Obscure Ford joke.

I had a Ford Contour for about 5 years, worst damn car I ever owned.

Authorities say a search of the dead gunman’s home turned up 14 guns, antidepressants, his last will and testament and a Post-It note that bore his victim’s last name and a telephone number.

All that spells psycho to me.

not to make light of a tradgedy in any shape, but I keep thinking of the scene from "Fargo" the Bill Macy car dealer character is telling the quiet married couple that their new car has the under coating they didn't want....paraphrasing..."You're a F@cking liar Mr Lundegard! A f@cking liar!"

this story just makes me think of that..don't know why...

re: #23 Iron Fist

He's a Democrat, hence likely for gun control (it is, after all, in their Party Platform). I think they should have to live, and sometimes die, by the rules and laws they want to force on us.

sooo... we should care about this story because it's ironic?

still not getting the significance.

re: #15 jcm

find news of 750,000 documented cases each year where a gun prevents a crime

You just need a better al.gore.rhythm

*running like hell* (I know, that's TWO)

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Be thankful you never owned a Pinto.

Wonder what the deal was with him trying to shoot up the Baptist church first?

re: #30 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You just need a better al.gore.rhythm

*running like hell* (I know, that's TWO)

Ohhhh! Stinky, clean up on #30, clean up on #30!

re: #1 Sharmuta

Whacko on drugs with guns- never a good combination.

Unless you're a Hollywood writer and have a short deadline. They'll buy one of those stories every time.

A CZAR IS BORN: BAD VLAD WINS WAR, DUPES WEST & PROVES HE'S GENIUS

re: #33 jcm

Ohhhh! Stinky, clean up on #30, clean up on #30!

ROFL
There will be NO #3.
/sanity returneth

re: #31 MikeySDCA

Be thankful you never owned a Pinto.

I did. Scared the crap out of me every time I had to stop fast and there was someone behind me...Tell the truth I kind of miss the adventure.

re: #16 Cap'n DOC

Maybe he was just looking for an Escort.

/Obscure Ford joke.

You need a better Focus.

re: #8 lawhawk

So far, nothing about him working for Gwatney, and I still wonder about his connection to the Baptist Convention building, where he was seen brandishing the gun before going on the high speed chase.

He was, apparently, fired from Target just yesterday after scrawling graffiti.

What does that tell you? A grown 51 year old man fired for scribbling on the shithouse wall.

re: #31 MikeySDCA

Be thankful you never owned a Pinto.

Last time my family came home from Iran in '76, being a poor missionary family my dad could only find a Vega wagon. 5 of us traveled in that thing from NYC to Seattle.

I hate Vegas.

re: #23 Iron Fist
Agreed, but, there would have been someone around who would have ended it sooner than it did end. We are lucky no one died in the 30 mile chase.

re: #34 CyanSnowHawk

Seriously, though. Why are so many of these gunmen hopped up on anti-depressants? Makes me wonder if the cure isn't worse than the disease.

re: #34 CyanSnowHawk

What happened to the fire alarm?
Are you posting from a curb in the parking lot?

re: #39 maddogg

What does that tell you? A grown 51 year old man fired for scribbling on the shithouse wall.

Hey, everyone looks for a good time in their own way.

re: #38 Honorary Yooper

You need a better Focus.

Ouch. That mustang.

re: #38 Honorary Yooper

You need a better Focus.

I might have to Dodge these puns.

Personal then, not political.

re: #31 MikeySDCA
I had a pinto, my second car. it was that weird color that was nither green or yellow. kind of like dog yak.

It would be nice if those anti-depressants actually undepressed someone for a change. Turning people into suicidal murderers is a poor alternative.

evidence has turned up that indicates a possible grudge over Gwatney’s automobile dealerships.

/what'd I say?

re: #40 jcm

Last time my family came home from Iran in '76, being a poor missionary family my dad could only find a Vega wagon. 5 of us traveled in that thing from NYC to Seattle.

I hate Vegas.

Oh my dear LORD! You poor, POOR dear!

re: #46 Sharmuta

I might have to Dodge these puns.

That's fine. We will just Ram on without you.

re: #42 Sharmuta

Seriously, though. Why are so many of these gunmen hopped up on anti-depressants? Makes me wonder if the cure isn't worse than the disease.

Because its a proven fact that the drugs which serve as anti depressants also end up heightening aggression and lessening fear responses. Messing with human chemistry gets nasty nasty results. I'll never allow any member of my family to get drugged like that.

re: #31 MikeySDCA

Be thankful you never owned a Pinto.

I knew a girl in college who had one. Imagine Miss Piggy, in a Pinto. And we'd manage to get about 6 or seven others squeezed in. (Few of us had cars - that's how we got to movies, like Monty Python and the Holy Grail)

re: #45 Ford_Prefect

Ouch. That mustang.

Quite a Blazer.

re: #38 Honorary Yooper

You need a better Focus.

So you can Escape.

re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Creditor who he blamed for financial problems is my bet. Just going off gut feelings for that based on what info had been provided.

I thought of that too, but the thing about him having "multiple sets of keys" from the dealership made me think employee.

Maybe an employee in debt to the employer?

I would bet money this guy never even registered to vote.

re: #57 CIA Reject

I thought of that too, but the thing about him having "multiple sets of keys" from the dealership made me think employee.

Maybe an employee in debt to the employer?

Nothing about him being an employee. Maybe he had bought 2 vehicles.

re: #38 Honorary Yooper

The victim ran a Chevy dealership. Perhaps he was Cavalier.

re: #54 Kosh's Shadow

I knew a girl in college who had one. Imagine Miss Piggy, in a Pinto. And we'd manage to get about 6 or seven others squeezed in. (Few of us had cars - that's how we got to movies, like Monty Python and the Holy Grail)

I had a similar experience except the car was one of those original Honda Civics.

re: #50 Killian Bundy

Good call.

He was LDS....no not Mormon.....Lemon Derangement Syndrome.

re: #19 lawhawk

"Target is run by dumb jocks and sorority *******."

A third graffiti was found on the human resources door saying, "sorority *******."

Wasn't the guy around 50? Yet he's whining about the "popular" kids like a adolescent.

re: #56 Cygnus

So you can Escape.

Into Infinity?

re: #60 Cap'n DOC

The victim ran a Chevy dealership. Perhaps he was Cavalier.

Sounds like he needed a Citation.

re: #66 Honorary Yooper

Super, Sport.

re: #12 CapeCoddah

Another great argument for arming the general public with concealed carry handguns. Mr. Gwatney did not have to die.

Concealed carry, even if Mr. Gwatney was armed, would likely not have stopped this. Must-issue CC permit laws have proven to be effective deterrents, but they cannot stop every event. Anyone can be surprised, especially by someone barging into an office unexpectedly and quickly firing off a few rounds. The rounds are flying before you even know the nature of the threat.

re: #32 pat

Wonder what the deal was with him trying to shoot up the Baptist church first?

Any reason he left there without firing?

I suppose they'd tell us if that was Gwaltey's church and the killer was seeking him there.

re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Nothing about him being an employee. Maybe he had bought 2 vehicles.

Maybe...

re: #60 Cap'n DOC

The victim ran a Chevy dealership. Perhaps he was Cavalier.

Explorer? I never touched her.

Used car salesman... Democrat Party Chairman. Not much difference between the two really.

They are both trying to sell a used product to someone that wants something cheap and quick. Toss a quick shine job on the product and try to make it look good so you can sell something (car or idea)that someone else didn't want or didn't work before.

re: #68 Cap'n DOC

Super, Sport.

Thanks, it's great to be a Celebrity.

re: #42 Sharmuta

Because of cost and time restraints, most doctors will just give a person an antidepressant rather than actually listening to them and finding appropriate help. In addition, most antidepressants are prescribed by non-psychiatrists (internists, GPs and the like). Sometimes it works out fine, but some people are not helped and just get worse. A few antidepressants have been linked to increased risk of suicide or violence, but I am more inclined to believe the behavior is a manifestation of the underlying illness, not a new behavior caused by the drugs.

/not a doctor, just an interested layperson

My first car was a Chevette. Burnt-orange color. Gah - what a POS.

Is the bad pun graveyard?

re: #69 CyanSnowHawk

Concealed carry, even if Mr. Gwatney was armed, would likely not have stopped this. Must-issue CC permit laws have proven to be effective deterrents, but they cannot stop every event. Anyone can be surprised, especially by someone barging into an office unexpectedly and quickly firing off a few rounds. The rounds are flying before you even know the nature of the threat.

Agreed. CC's are best for the nutjob who wants to rack up a large body count like at Virginia Tech.

re: #73 Outrider

The man is a victim of murder. You're classier than that.

re: #74 Honorary Yooper

Thanks, it's great to be a Celebrity.

If this keeps up I am going to have a Fiat.

re: #72 Ford_Prefect

Explorer? I never touched her.

You didn't even Hummer?

Reporter shot on live TV

Israel/US targetting Journalists!

Just kidding.

But she continues.

Incredible courage.

OT: VDH in classic form today-

Meanwhile, the hypocrisy becomes harder to take. After all, it is easy for self-appointed global moralists to complain that terrorists don't enjoy Miranda rights at Guantanamo, but it would be hard to do much about the Russian military invading Georgia's democracy and bombing its cities.

Al Gore crisscrosses the country, pontificating about Americans' carbon footprints. But he could do far better to fly to China to convince them not to open 500 new coal-burning power plants.

It has been chic to chant "No blood for oil" about Iraq's petroleum -- petroleum that, in fact, is now administered by a constitutional republic. But such sloganeering would be better directed at China's sweetheart oil deals with Sudan that enable the mass murdering in Darfur.

Due to climbing prices and high government taxes, gasoline consumption is declining in the West, but its use is rising in other places, where it is either untaxed or subsidized.

So, what a richer but more critical world has forgotten is that in large part America was the model, not the villain -- and that postwar globalization was always a form of engaged Americanization that enriched and protected billions.

re: #65 vapig

Into Infinity?

...and beyond.

re: #69 CyanSnowHawk

Concealed carry, even if Mr. Gwatney was armed, would likely not have stopped this. Must-issue CC permit laws have proven to be effective deterrents, but they cannot stop every event. Anyone can be surprised, especially by someone barging into an office unexpectedly and quickly firing off a few rounds. The rounds are flying before you even know the nature of the threat.

Given that he left a note and shot it out with cops sounds like he was on a mission and expected to die. There is no deterrence to that situation.

re: #81 Sharmuta

You didn't even Hummer?

No, but I did Defender.

re: #77 maddogg

Is the bad pun graveyard?

Just bury the issue.

re: #40 jcm

Last time my family came home from Iran in '76, being a poor missionary family my dad could only find a Vega wagon. 5 of us traveled in that thing from NYC to Seattle.

I hate Vegas.

Three in the back seat of a Vega? Not good. I owned two of them, and the second one ('76 GT) was bulletproof. I sold it with 218,000 on it, and the head had never been off of it. Down here in Texas they didn't rust, and if you never let the things overheat (kiss of death with Vegas), they would go a long way.

re: #31 MikeySDCA

Be thankful you never owned a Pinto.

re: #54 Kosh's Shadow

I knew a girl in college who had one. Imagine Miss Piggy, in a Pinto. And we'd manage to get about 6 or seven others squeezed in. (Few of us had cars - that's how we got to movies, like Monty Python and the Holy Grail)

There is an absolutely hilarious scene involving a Pinto in this movie. If you've ever seen it you'll remember...

re: #75 doppelganglander

I agree with you- but I think it's more than just the doctors. I think a lot of people in need of help are attracted to a quick solution like a pill instead of taking the time to really work through their problems.

re: #83 karmic_inquisitor

Dinged down in error.

My bad.

Someone ding that thing up please.

re: #64 Silhouette

Wasn't the guy around 50? Yet he's whining about the "popular" kids like a adolescent.

Sounds to me like a perpetual loser/victim, fed up with their lot in life and trying to stick it to the man by scrawling graffiti at work, then set in motion a pre-planned scenario to go out in a infamous blaze of glory by taking someone else (whom they might have had financial dealings with) with them.

Damn shame...

re: #80 Ford_Prefect

If this keeps up I am going to have a Fiat.

Don't you mean a Fit?

re: #89 CIA Reject

There is an absolutely hilarious scene involving a Pinto in this movie. If you've ever seen it you'll remember...

Top Secret? Loved it.

re: #79 Silhouette

re: #73 Outrider
The man is a victim of murder. You're classier than that.

Was speaking generally, but then I have had some real interesting experiences with used car salesmen......and the local Democrat Party Chairwoman.

re: #94 Ward Cleaver

Top Secret? Loved it.

Do you remember the scene with the Ford Pinto?

Classic!

sad,two lives gone.at least it was not a political motivation.
(although i'm sure koz and du are still going off on conservatives with guns,blah,blah,blah.)
prayers out to gwatney and his family.

re: #90 Sharmuta

I agree with you- but I think it's more than just the doctors. I think a lot of people in need of help are attracted to a quick solution like a pill instead of taking the time to really work through their problems.

This.

I have known a few people that took antidepressants. A majority of them use an argument along the lines of, "I'm a busy person, got to keep up with my life, I can't afford to take time/money to go see a psychiatrist and get myself straightened out. I'll just go get a prescription and it'll all go away." I for one am firmly convinced that way too many people are turning to doctors to get a diagnosis and a prescription instead of searching their souls to find where the real problems lie.

re: #98 thedopefishlives

This.

I have known a few people that took antidepressants. A majority of them use an argument along the lines of, "I'm a busy person, got to keep up with my life, I can't afford to take time/money to go see a psychiatrist and get myself straightened out. I'll just go get a prescription and it'll all go away." I for one am firmly convinced that way too many people are turning to doctors to get a diagnosis and a prescription instead of searching their souls to find where the real problems lie.

And the real problems are not the kind that respond to medication.

re: #91 Ben Hur

Done.

re: #93 Ward Cleaver

Don't you mean a Fit?

Sorry, I didn't mean to lay my Saab story on you.

re: #96 CIA Reject

Do you remember the scene with the Ford Pinto?

Classic!

German car tries to stop, and barely touches the rear end of a Pinto...
*tink*
BOOOOOM!

Great movie....

re: #40 jcm

Last time my family came home from Iran in '76, being a poor
missionary family my dad could only find a Vega wagon. 5 of us traveled
in that thing from NYC to Seattle.

I hate Vegas.

What happens in Vegas stay in Vegas.

My first car, a '73 Ford station wagon. All metal, 450 under the hood, 8 miles to the gallon, sitted 8 people comfortably, was in 8 separate accidents before I inherited it (hrmm, that's a lotta 8's), best darn car I ever owned. I miss that tank.

Please Charles another thread!i can't take the puns any longer!

re: #99 CIA Reject

Precisely. I actually knew a person who had themselves diagnosed with a mental disorder in order to claim that _I_ caused them to develop it. If you can't see how much deeper that goes... *shrug*

My mom had a silver AMC Gremlin when I was a kid. I think that trumps the Vega and Chevette for POS cars......

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I had a Ford Contour for about 5 years, worst damn car I ever owned.

I've been a Ford Man since my I got my first Ford in the Army. An beat up '65 Fairlane. Best car deal I ever made. $300 bucks and I drove the thing over 30k miles in the next year with only about $600 bucks in maintenance and repairs, including new tires. My current is my favorite that I have owned, an '05 Escape that was my first new purchase. About my only complaint is the tiny gas tank. 16 Gallons is too small for a 19mpg vehicle.

Wasn't the Mercury Mystique based on the Contour chassis? I drove a Mystique once. It earned the moniker Mistake. That thing sucked.

re: #105 Boondock St. Bender

Please Charles another thread!i can't take the puns any longer!

We've gotten a lot of mileage out of this.

re: #88 Ward Cleaver

Three in the back seat of a Vega? Not good. I owned two of them, and the second one ('76 GT) was bulletproof.

... so I drove it to a Jerry Lee Lewis concert, where there was A Whole Lot of Shootin' Going On!

re: #89 CIA Reject

There is an absolutely hilarious scene involving a Pinto in this movie. If you've ever seen it you'll remember...

Did you have the right link? I know the movie Top Secret had a great scene with one. Great movie overall. One of the best Zucker/Abrams/Zucker films.

re: #104 MrSilverDragon

(hrmm, that's a lotta 8's),

Did you read about the baby born last week, on 8/08/08 at 8:08, weighing 8 lb 8 oz.? The nurse said she tried to read the measurement as eight-teen inches long, but it wasn't even close. :-)

re: #98 thedopefishlives

I agree in general with what you've said. But "way too many people are turning to doctors to get a diagnosis and a prescription instead of searching their souls to find where the real problems lie."
Only goes so far; suppose they do find out where their real problems lie and find that they can't do anything about them?
For SOME people, antidepressants really are necessary for them to function - not to mention that working with a real psychiatrist can take years to unravel a tightly woven problem.

re: #105 Boondock St. Bender

Please Charles another thread!i can't take the puns any longer!

Yes. Just make sure you Charger.

re: #107 Spiker

My mom had a silver AMC Gremlin when I was a kid. I think that trumps the Vega and Chevette for POS cars......

You win that one. Yecch!

re: #102 talon_262

German car tries to stop, and barely touches the rear end of a Pinto...
*tink*
BOOOOOM!

Great movie....

The look of absolute horror on the German driver's face when he sees the "Pinto" logo on the back of the car is priceless!

re: #98 thedopefishlives

This.

I have known a few people that took antidepressants. A majority of them use an argument along the lines of, "I'm a busy person, got to keep up with my life, I can't afford to take time/money to go see a psychiatrist and get myself straightened out. I'll just go get a prescription and it'll all go away." I for one am firmly convinced that way too many people are turning to doctors to get a diagnosis and a prescription instead of searching their souls to find where the real problems lie.

Thats my opinion. There is a reason for feeling the way you do. Sure, in some cases, there might be a real problem that requires medical attention, but in a lot of the cases, they just dont want to deal with something and take the pill so they "feel better." Guess what? You're not supposed to feel like a happy ray of f**king sunshine 24/7. Sometimes you're supposed to feel like crap and be angry and ready to take someones head off or cry your eyes out.

More PC happy happy joy joy crap.

re: #67 buzzsawmonkey

He never should have ordered the anti-rust undercoating.

Fargo!

re: #114 Ford_Prefect
Geez. I really had to dodge that one!

re: #113 realwest

I won't disagree that there are legitimate uses to antidepressants and suchlike. However, I think they are VASTLY overused in today's society. I tend to think mental disorders are grossly overdiagnosed, and that it is the fault of both doctors and patients that this has come to be.

re: #114 Ford_Prefect

Yes. Just make sure you Charger.

And make sure it is of the right Caliber.

re: #93 Ward Cleaver

Fiat: Fix It Almost Totally

/Canadian Armed Forces term for the Fiat's they bought back in the mid 80's
//made dodges look like gems

re: #104 MrSilverDragon

My first car, a '73 Ford station wagon. All metal, 450 under the
hood, 8 miles to the gallon, sitted 8 people comfortably, was in 8
separate accidents before I inherited it (hrmm, that's a lotta 8's),
best darn car I ever owned. I miss that tank.

Our best car was my Dad's '77 Suburban. You could fit your whole life into that thing. Travelled across the country I don't know how many times, solid American steel that saved my Mom's life in an accident. I hated having to let it go after my Dad died, but it just wasn't practical for me to keep :(

re: #107 Spiker

My mom had a silver AMC Gremlin when I was a kid. I think that trumps the Vega and Chevette for POS cars......

Actually, the pacer is the worst, and ugliest. the first car shared by my brother and myself was a gremlin. We tried like hell, but could not kill that thing. My mother finally sold it to a neighbor kid w/ his new license after brother and I were done with it. I got a pinto after that, but, in my defense, I was 16 and stupid.

re: #107 Spiker

My mom had a silver AMC Gremlin when I was a kid. I think that trumps the Vega and Chevette for POS cars......

Remember the Pacer? We were looking at used cars, and I tried one. It wouldn't go in drive, only reverse. We ended up getting a 1979 Buick Skylark that was generally good, but occasionally wouldn't start; then magically work again after we'd called AAA. However, it lasted a long time

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta go mush some lunch now - I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get to see you down the road!

re: #43 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What happened to the fire alarm?
Are you posting from a curb in the parking lot?

I posted the all clear in the last thread. I should have mentioned it was a scheduled drill.

re: #105 Boondock St. Bender

Please Charles another thread!i can't take the puns any longer!

You should be more Valiant.

re: #105 Boondock St. Bender

Please Charles another thread!i can't take the puns any longer!

Are we driving you away?

re: #111 Kosh's Shadow

Did you have the right link? I know the movie Top Secret had a great scene with one. Great movie overall. One of the best Zucker/Abrams/Zucker films.

ACK! Wrong link! The "exploding Pinto" in the car/truck chase scene for m the Zucker's "Top Secret" was what I was looking for.

What I get for trying to conduct multiple conversations at the same time!

AAARRRGGGHHH!

There Yugo!
Datsun Great Puns!
Gotta Go Luv!

re: #129 Kosh's Shadow

Are we driving you away?

Just running on empty...

re: #105 Boondock St. Bender

Please Charles another thread!i can't take the puns any longer!

We'll just follow you.
heh heh heh

re: #122 BlueCanuck

Fiat: Fix It Almost Totally

/Canadian Armed Forces term for the Fiat's they bought back in the mid 80's
//made dodges look like gems

I thought it was Fix It Again, Tony

re: #107 Spiker

My mom had a silver AMC Gremlin when I was a kid. I think that trumps the Vega and Chevette for POS cars......

Two words - Le Car. My friend's family owned 3 of them - a red one, a white one and, you guessed it, a blue one.

re: #121 Honorary Yooper

And make sure it is of the right Caliber.

Even if it isn't this Intrepid punner will pickup and motor on.

re: #112 Silhouette

Did you read about the baby born last week, on 8/08/08 at 8:08, weighing 8 lb 8 oz.? The nurse said she tried to read the measurement as eight-teen inches long, but it wasn't even close. :-)

CONSPIRACY! BIG 8 IS SCREWING US UP!

OK, crazy juice drained out of my resevoir.

re: #127 CyanSnowHawk

I posted the all clear in the last thread. I should have mentioned it was a scheduled drill.

I posted a wonderment back there ... that maybe you'd hacked into the system to get an afternoon break out in the sunshine

heh
/

re: #105 Boondock St. Bender

Aren't you glad to be part of a thread with such Civic minded individuals? Anyway, you can always leave on your own Accord.

Funny how we all love those horrible piece-of-trash cheapo starter cars more than the more luxurious and dependable ones we were able to afford later.

I have nothing but love for that little rust bucket that got me through college, but I traded in the last minivan without a shred of nostaligia.

re: #142 paradox42

Aren't you glad to be part of a thread with such Civic minded individuals? Anyway, you can always leave on your own Accord.

Either way you can't Prius away from this.

Let's stop the Escalade-tion of these puns, shall we?

re: #77 maddogg

Is the bad pun graveyard?

Bad pun Junkyard.

FHSU Professor cusses and mooning students and teachers during debate

This is them.

re: #127 CyanSnowHawk

Curious question, which city are you in?

/reasons why on previous thread..

re: #100 Cap'n DOC

Thank's Doc.

re: #132 Boondock St. Bender

AAARRRGGGHHH!

Yeah, that's right. Nash your teeth.

re: #21 Sol Roth

The Denver Cyanidist is reported to have been a schizophrenic off his medication. Per FoxesNews quoting the family.

Lots of crazy and violent people out there. (it's okay to be crazy, just don't think I'm a snake and stab me 149 times)

That still doesn't rule out the possibility he was planning a terrorist attack. You can be crazy & a jihadi too!

re: #98 thedopefishlives

This.

I have known a few people that took antidepressants. A majority of them use an argument along the lines of, "I'm a busy person, got to keep up with my life, I can't afford to take time/money to go see a psychiatrist and get myself straightened out. I'll just go get a prescription and it'll all go away." I for one am firmly convinced that way too many people are turning to doctors to get a diagnosis and a prescription instead of searching their souls to find where the real problems lie.

I for one am firmly convinced you don't know what you are talking about. For one who is married to a woman who suffers from bi-polar disorder I can say I totally disagree with the notion this disease can be cured through soul searching. This disease is just that, an organic disease not a mental psychosis. An imbalance of brain chemicals, hormones, etc. is what causes the disease and there is no way any sole searching is going to change your friggin brain chemistry. The notion that people who suffer from depression only need to find where their real problems lie to cure themselves is ridiculous. I could go on and on about this but you only need to have lived with someone who suffers to understand.

re: #145 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Let's stop the Escalade-tion of these puns, shall we?

This Expedition has only just begun.

re: #136 Kosh's Shadow

It's the army, multiple acronyms for anything.

re: #147 Ben Hur

Someone linked that the other day. "Uh, professor, I'm flipping throught the Debate Team handbook, but I can't find which logical argument "mooning" falls under."

re: #144 Ford_Prefect

Just remember, when you go to Sebring a life jacket.

Ok.........this has been a Challenger, reading this thread but now I have to Dart out of here..............

re: #153 Ford_Prefect

This Expedition has only just begun.

Next stop, Malibu?

So , the Arkansas shooter was pissed over a car deal?
Well that's a relief!
///

re: #141 buzzsawmonkey

As long as we're talking cars, I still think that the makers of the Cressida missed out on the his-and-hers market by not manufacturing a Troilus.

Every time I see a Subaru (or was it Suzuki?) Impulse, with Impluse written on the back, I thnk I want the one with warp drive.

re: #158 Sharmuta

Next stop, Malibu?

Maybe Santa Fe.

re: #130 buzzsawmonkey

Great movie. And a good (ironic) name for a crummy electric car that has a 50-mile range.

Macy was terrific! I loved the scene when he promised to fax the paperwork right over - shoot it right over to ya.

re: #90 Sharmuta

I agree with you- but I think it's more than just the doctors. I think a lot of people in need of help are attracted to a quick solution like a pill instead of taking the time to really work through their problems.

That's probably true as well. The problem is taking the time to distinguish between a chemical imbalance or other brain problem that will respond to medication, and problems that have more to do with life events, maladjustment, or personal issues. For instance, an antidepressant won't solve your unresolved issues with an abusive childhood, although it may give you enough mental stability to begin to deal with it.

re: #161 Ford_Prefect

Maybe Santa Fe.

You're such a Trailblazer.

re: #151 Kenneth

That still doesn't rule out the possibility he was planning a terrorist attack. You can be crazy & a jihadi too!

You must be crazy to be a Jihadi!
Fixed it for ya!

re: #150 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yeah, that's right. Nash your teeth.

Ramble on.

re: #158 Sharmuta

Next stop, Malibu?

You're very focused on these puns. You're no Rambler.

re: #152 turn

You are right. But what I think they were saying is that the average joe is prescribed that junk when other options are available that don't need chemicals. A Bi-polar is a different story altogether.

/and my heart weeps for her, and I wonder where she is and if here dreams were achieved.

re: #143 Silhouette

Funny how we all love those horrible piece-of-trash cheapo starter cars more than the more luxurious and dependable ones we were able to afford later.

I have nothing but love for that little rust bucket that got me through college, but I traded in the last minivan without a shred of nostaligia.

Thats so right!
I still remember the red Beetle we had, ancient, running boards tied to the chassis with strings, some grasses growing in the back footwell ...
Went on a camping tour through Ireland, summer hols with the kids ... how we got everything into it I shall never know!
And on one of the farms, the resident Border Collie was busily undoing the strings of the running boards while my husband chatted with the farmer ...

Did you give names to your cars?

re: #106 thedopefishlives

Precisely. I actually knew a person who had themselves diagnosed with a mental disorder in order to claim that _I_ caused them to develop it. If you can't see how much deeper that goes... *shrug*

Your antagonist undoubtedly had a mental disorder, but not one that you caused or one that had any physical cause at all.

Much of this kind of stuff is the inevitable result of living in a society that demands a "quick fix" for every problem.

Unfortunately the problems are often spiritual, rather than physical, in nature and hence have no physical solution- quick or otherwise.

My, this has been a Grand Torino of all the old car names.

re: #164 Sharmuta

You're such a Trailblazer.

Well, I do try to Excel.

re: #166 Kosh's Shadow

Ramble on.

OUCH
You beat me to it by one post!

re: #88 Ward Cleaver

Three in the back seat of a Vega? Not good. I owned two of them, and the second one ('76 GT) was bulletproof. I sold it with 218,000 on it, and the head had never been off of it. Down here in Texas they didn't rust, and if you never let the things overheat (kiss of death with Vegas), they would go a long way.

Was that the one with the Cosworth engine? The Vega looked incredible, sort a little Camaro from the front, but they rusted out if you washed them too vigorously. I have heard that the drive train was very good, which was quite an exception to the typical stuff out of Detroit at the time.

This thread is starting to bug me.

re: #157 Rides A Pale Horse

Ok.........this has been a Challenger, reading this thread but now I have to Dart out of here..............

Ramble on...

re: #175 karmic_inquisitor

This thread is starting to bug me.

That was kinda Jeep.

okay people, let's re-Focus here!

re: #147 Ben Hur

FHSU Professor cusses and mooning students and teachers during debate

This is them.

That guy was a professor!? I'll say it again.

Is Boondock comatose yet?

Heh

re: #178 outsidephilly

okay people, let's re-Focus here!

What? I am in my Element here.

You folks have to get out of the country club more often. It's nothing more than a Tempest in a teapot.

re: #180 pre-Boomer Marine brat

FINALLY!------------->

re: #163 doppelganglander

That's probably true as well. The problem is taking the time to distinguish between a chemical imbalance or other brain problem that will respond to medication, and problems that have more to do with life events, maladjustment, or personal issues. For instance, an antidepressant won't solve your unresolved issues with an abusive childhood, although it may give you enough mental stability to begin to deal with it.

I agree, and good point. And I might add that not all people who suffer from depression have had some prior maladjustment or personal issue like child abuse which seems to be the assumption of those who think all the depressed person needs to do is work through their personal problems to cure their depression. This is an organic disease maybe made worse by some prior life experience but certainly not caused by it.

yeah know, this thread should go into Charles CLASSIC file

re: #178 outsidephilly

How far outside of Philly are you? I'm right in Center City.

re: #186 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Delaware County

sometimes mental illness is caused by overwelm of life experiences, sometimes by clinical illness''s hormones, chemicals and so on, no pat answer.

re: #182 lawhawk

You folks have to get out of the country club more often. It's nothing more than a Tempest in a teapot.

I guess. There's Harley any left anyway.

re: #175 karmic_inquisitor
I had a type 1 ,California bug!
Lowered,louvered , roll bar and custom paint.
It was in V W trend mag twice....
I put a 1835 Berni Bergmen motor in it and it did an honest 120 MPH!
Frightening in a little car!

re: #168 BlueCanuck

Thanks for the kind thoughts, thankfully she is still alive and feeling quite well now that the doctors have found the right combination of meds. Surprisingly finding them is more of a black art than a science.

re: #187 outsidephilly

Delaware County

There's a surprising amount of Delaware Valley Lizards here. If I had a backyard, I'd host a BBQ for us!

re: #189 Ford_Prefect

Oh I don't know about that. I'm sure there's a Galaxy of ideas left.......

Always remember, wherever Yugo, there you are...

re: #156 paradox42

Is that for when we Ford the river?

re: #152 turn
thanks for adressing this, many assume, it's a pull yourself up by bootstraps ordeal, and sometimes it's REALLY human suffering as is diabetes , heart disease and such.

re: #140 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I posted a wonderment back there ... that maybe you'd hacked into the system to get an afternoon break out in the sunshine

heh
/

Morning. Pacific time.

re: #188 willowone

And sometimes the one triggers the other. Psychiatry is in its infancy relative to other medical specialties. Maybe one day, there will be a blood test that can accurately determine the exact chemical imbalance causing the brain not to work right. Until then its really is just trial and error.

re: #188 willowone

sometimes genetics, too.

re: #191 turn

I know. I dated one once who was very creative. It was a juggle between what would keep her functional and writing at the same time. She hated it but she knew she had to take them. the last I talked to her before she disappeared, she was saying that her final choice may be lithium. She taught me a lot about literature and life the year I knew her.

re: #199 paradox42
right, hopefully it will get better as more is known.

re: #193 Rides A Pale Horse

Oh I don't know about that. I'm sure there's a Galaxy of ideas left.......

I didn't mean to Mini-mize this.

re: #148 BlueCanuck

Curious question, which city are you in?

/reasons why on previous thread..

San Diego CA.

re: #200 Kenneth
yes Kenneth

re: #192 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm a 'new hatchling' (2 week old) . . . , I'm just gettin' to know people - nice to know philly is well represented here!

As I linked yesterday, a Tim Johnson from Searcy (the same name and hometown of the killer) was also involved in a workman's comp case against Arkansas Steel Erectors.

Complaining about narrow hallways, the other workers at Target, potentially his treatment in purchasing a car, etc. Not implying that all workman's comp cases are like this, but it would fit the profile of a guy who blamed every one else for his life.

re: #193 Rides A Pale Horse

Oh I don't know about that. I'm sure there's a Galaxy of ideas left.......

You have a nice Accent.

re: #169 yma o hyd

I had a VW beetle that was so old, it had no gas gauge! It hadn't been removed, it simply did not have one. There was a little lever to the right of the gas pedal that you'd flip with your foot when you began to run out of gas.

........."Cherokee People............"

re: #184 turn

I agree, and good point. And I might add that not all people who suffer from depression have had some prior maladjustment or personal issue like child abuse which seems to be the assumption of those who think all the depressed person needs to do is work through their personal problems to cure their depression. This is an organic disease maybe made worse by some prior life experience but certainly not caused by it.

Thanks. I'm one of those people who had a perfectly normal upbringing with good parents who nevertheless was more or less miserable every day of my life until I got on antidepressants. I still have good days and bad days, but now they're related to actual events and situations in my life.

And may I say all the best to you and your wife.

Sounds like a Saab story to me...

re: #211 doppelganglander

Thank you, and I hope you continue to do well. It is soooo painful to look in the eyes of a depressed loved one and realize there is so little you can do to relieve them. It's a horrible feeling.

re: #212 sngnsgt

Are you taking Liberty with my last post?

This isnt the graveyard of bad puns, it's the junkyard of bad puns!

I think it's just because we're all a bunch of Renegades.........

re: #214 Rides A Pale Horse

Are you taking Liberty with my last post?

I will Probe into that story for you.

re: #214 Rides A Pale Horse

Nah, just a Jeep shot...

re: #219 sngnsgt

Nah, just a Jeep shot...

I think we have reached the Edge of the precipice. We are starting to repeat ourselves.

Only 80 to go before we hit 300.......(cough)

re: #220 Ford_Prefect

I think we have reached the Edge of the precipice. We are starting to repeat ourselves.

Sounds like something someone with "Ford" in they're username would say...

A shithouse of bad puns. Is there no shame left in the world?

What tends to happen is that a person is evaluated by a shrink, but doesn't manage to say anything that would trip the "danger to self or others" switch. So they give him antidepressants hoping it's just a really bad case of depression.

re: #223 maddogg

I think we've Eclipse-d bad puns...

re: #223 maddogg

A shithouse of bad puns. Is there no shame left in the world?

Just try to Focus a little...

re: #82 Ben Hur

Reporter shot on live TV

Israel/US targetting Journalists!

Just kidding.

But she continues.

Incredible courage.

WOW Isn't how russia deals with reports they don't like in the Mother Land?

A veritable Caravan of Edsels

Remember that the invasion of Japan would have labeled the beaches with the brand names of American automobiles. Oh the irony of it.

re: #228 Rides A Pale Horse

A veritable Caravan of Edsels

Is that Pale Horse a Mustang?

re: #230 sngnsgt

MOPARORNOCAR

After reading the article about Mr. Johnson we can rest assured that he was not a Republican, but a liberal wacko.

Proof...He was a minimum wage 50 yo loser writing graffiti on walls and floors.

re: #231 Rides A Pale Horse

MOPARORNOCAR

Ahh, a Stealth reply...

Perhaps a bit of gee-whizz is needed now ...

re: #234 yma o hyd

Perhaps a bit of gee-whizz is needed now ...

I Echo that one...

This thread could go on for Infiniti...

re: #236 sngnsgt

To Infinity and beyond.

Please obey the Pilot at all times, no smoking, and if you need a stewardess, Shelby right there.

Sorry I disappeared there for a while. we lost power. I think someone unplugged the Xebra.

re: #237 paradox42

To Infinity and beyond.

Please obey the Pilot at all times, no smoking, and if you need a stewardess, Shelby right there.

LOL! Now you're swooping down on me like an Eagle!

All the while I Hummer a little tune.

re: #239 sngnsgt

LOL! Now you're swooping down on me like an Eagle!

We seem to be losing our Pacer.

Every time I think I can't go on, I stop and think to myself "Yes, Yukon!"

re: #241 Ford_Prefect

We seem to be losing our Pacer.

You're right, I see an Eclipse over the Horizon...

And on that note, I must call it a day.

"It's a day!"

We've almost Eclipse-d the end of the Spectrum...

re: #244 Ford_Prefect

And on that note, I must call it a day.

It's only 5 o'clock out in the Atlantic Ocean.

/cinqo-centric

re: #108 CyanSnowHawk

I've been a Ford Man since my I got my first Ford in the Army. An beat up '65 Fairlane. Best car deal I ever made. $300 bucks and I drove the thing over 30k miles in the next year with only about $600 bucks in maintenance and repairs, including new tires. My current is my favorite that I have owned, an '05 Escape that was my first new purchase. About my only complaint is the tiny gas tank. 16 Gallons is too small for a 19mpg vehicle.

Wasn't the Mercury Mystique based on the Contour chassis? I drove a Mystique once. It earned the moniker Mistake. That thing sucked.

CSH -

Have lots of Ford experience, from Pinto (Built them, Henry Ford Scholarship the Hard Way) to Focus (My Current) with Mustang and Escort stories along the way. Contour for some reason was a German Ford (Mondeo) that didn't translate well into English until it was re-done and became the 2001 ESCAPE - the Contour Wagon that Never Was. The Focus, another Ford Deutchland Design was pretty well perfected by the end of the second model year (2001). -S-

re: #27 Sizzlack

All that spells psycho to me.

Depends on the type of anti-depressant and the dose. Lots of guns hardly means he was a psycho either.

re: #2 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Definately seemed personal.

Here's the thing. Arkansas is a tiny state. About 3 million people. Anyone long term here probably isn't the famous 6 degrees of separated, he's most likely 1 or 2 degrees away.

So you get situations where one person knows, just for example, the fellow who sold Roger Clinton his cocaine, has had lunch with Win Rockefeller at his Petit Jean estate, shook hands (and been called "my friend") by Billy Jeff, dined with the man who was at the time the richest man in America (Sam Walton), and has friends and relatives on both sides of the fence at Varner (formerly Cummins prison farm). He has seen Susan MacDougal in her white hot pants astride that horse advertising lots for sale in Whitewater development.

The surprise is not that Johnson might have known Gwatney. The surprise would be if Johnson did not know Gwatney.

Thus a long-term Arkie would know that if Johnson was running towards his sisters house, and his sister lived in Sheridan, then Johnson was of the Caucasian Persuasion. He knows Gwatney's face from any number of TV ads going back for decades.

Fourteen guns in his home? Sounds like that's somewhere in the realm of statistical probability for the average Arkie.

re: #245 sngnsgt

We've almost Eclipse-d the end of the Spectrum...

perhaps a dedicated editor would be willing to reconstruct form the thread, say, The Volvo Dialogues...

dyslexic typos are my fiend

It occurs to me that Mr. Gwatney's murderer killed him because, like so many assassins, he was a zero that amounted to nothing in society. So to give himself worth (in his own eyes) he decided to kill a public figure. Mr. Gwatney was the best known public figure in the area that could be closely approached by a stranger. Problem solved. And that is the reason (in my musings) that The murderer chose him.

(I won't dignify the murderer by using it's name)

I confess to not following this story very closely - and lorn know this thread is impossible to follow!- my first thought was that if the shooter had a post-it with the victim's name in his pocket he probably didn't know him all that well. My first thought was "How well does his wife know the victim?"

re: #253 Stephen Macklin

The murderer lived alone. No wife.

Told you I wasn't following it closely!