I would say I told you so, but I think already made myself very clear as to how I feel about this.

I remember my buddy buying the very first CD player I had ever seen. It didn'twork to well and he paid $700 for it.

Huh? I really wish I understand geek!

So does this mean I have to get rid of my old Iphone and pop for the new one or should I wait for the next update?

If I’d seen it 14 years ago I probably would have called Bobby Jindal to perform an exorcism.

LOL!

Be a little careful. I think one of those icons can start WWIII. Have fun.

iPhone envy........

We barely have normal cell coverage here so I hate to throw money away on something that's not going to be fully functional. If I lived near a major city, I might consider it.

Just let me know when Skynet becomes self aware.

If I’d seen it 14 years ago I probably would have called Bobby Jindal to perform an exorcism.

re: #5 calvin coolidge

Be a little careful. I think one of those icons can start WWIII. Have fun.

WWIII was won, Cold War.
WWIV is GWoT.
WWV is kicking of in Georgia, I'd worry about the V button...
/ ;-)

How did you know Bobby was Catholic,, seriously, I work for a Tele company and i don't buy squat the first year/model. Now that they moved to 3g, give it 6 months and they will have ironed out the kinks.

It is fully functional, actually. The only problem right now is that sometimes you don't get the faster 3G network. As I wrote above, so far I've been able to get on the Internet with the slower EDGE network everywhere.

Meanwhile Apple can tell me how to get rid of the Apple only down load on my nano. Driving me crazy. Did it once, cannot repeat.

The Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest has a winner!

"Theirs was a New York love, a checkered taxi ride burning rubber, and like the city their passion was open 24/7, steam rising from their bodies like slick streets exhaling warm, moist, white breath through manhole covers stamped 'Forged by DeLaney Bros., Piscataway, N.J.'"

The contest is named after Victorian novelist Edward George Earl Bulwer-Lytton, whose 1830 novel "Paul Clifford" famously begins "It was a dark and stormy night."

Entrants are asked to submit bad opening sentences to imaginary novels. Awards are given for many categories, including awards for "purple prose" and "vile puns." The top winner receives a $250 prize.

I can't believe it -- I think I am going to get one too...doubt it will replace the blackberry though..

Telephone: An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance.

—Ambrose Bierce.

Ny Teknik, Sweden’s foremost engineering weekly, obtained a report on tests conducted by unnamed experts that showed some handsets’ sensitivity to third-generation network signals is well below the level specified in the 3G standard.

The report said the most likely cause of the 3G problems is defective adjustments between the antenna and an amplifier that captures very weak signals from the antenna. This could lead to poor 3G connectivity and slower data speeds.

Well, I'm a hardware geek and I'm going to weigh in....

Electrical Engineers are cranked out of college by the thousands every year...however, the RF specialists who can design and test matching networks are few and far between. So, the guess [and it's nothing more than a guess until someone actually investigates the interaction between H/W and S/W] that the antenna matching is incorrect is a good guess. A Las Vegas odds-maker would come to the same conclusion.

However, if I was the H/W engineer on this device I would point out that my front-end may accurately report the signal level while the software "throws in the towel" prematurely and reverts to the slower, more robust data rate.

Hardware problem? Good guess, but nothing more than a guess.

I wish I had one of these nifty phones, but I guess it's for the better. I would probably not get anything done.

re: #7 Wendya

We barely have normal cell coverage here so I hate to throw money away on something that's not going to be fully functional. If I lived near a major city, I might consider it.

I'd think twice about it if that major city is Denver. One of the people I work with got one the other day. It works great, except where we work...or where he lives...or where we're both on TDY for the rest of the month...

Nobody can be this stupid can they?

Kerry For Vice President?

[Link: wbztv.com...]

Reporting for duty?

re: #18 Sharmuta

I wish I had one of these nifty phones, but I guess it's for the better. I would probably not get anything done.

You get something done as it is?

everytime I log in, here you are!

/And I'm certainly not getting anything done...

re: #17 slartybartfast

Well, I'm a hardware geek and I'm going to weigh in....

Electrical Engineers are cranked out of college by the thousands every year...however, the RF specialists who can design and test matching networks are few and far between. So, the guess [and it's nothing more than a guess until someone actually investigates the interaction between H/W and S/W] that the antenna matching is incorrect is a good guess. A Las Vegas odds-maker would come to the same conclusion.

However, if I was the H/W engineer on this device I would point out that my front-end may accurately report the signal level while the software "throws in the towel" prematurely and reverts to the slower, more robust data rate.

Hardware problem? Good guess, but nothing more than a guess.

If there is a problem, I'm hoping it's a software interaction that can be fixed with a firmware upgrade. Instead of a recall.

I am going to stick with my Blackberry Pearl

I'm entering these comments on the iPhone right now, in fact, over 3G.

Starting to get the hang of typing on the virtual keyboard. Anyone know if there's a Bluetooth keyboard that works?

re: #21 thelongblogger

I like to take quick breaks, in which I furiously complete a task. ;p

re: #1 oh_dude

I would say I told you so, but I think already made myself very clear as to how I feel about this.

I remember my buddy buying the very first CD player I had ever seen. It didn'twork to well and he paid $700 for it.

It's always a gamble wit any technology trying to time when to buy: If you buy it too soon, it has bugs and flaws; If you buy too late it is out of date.

re: #17 slartybartfast

Well, I'm a hardware geek and I'm going to weigh in....

Electrical Engineers are cranked out of college by the thousands every year...however, the RF specialists who can design and test matching networks are few and far between. So, the guess [and it's nothing more than a guess until someone actually investigates the interaction between H/W and S/W] that the antenna matching is incorrect is a good guess. A Las Vegas odds-maker would come to the same conclusion.

However, if I was the H/W engineer on this device I would point out that my front-end may accurately report the signal level while the software "throws in the towel" prematurely and reverts to the slower, more robust data rate.

Hardware problem? Good guess, but nothing more than a guess.

Heh, try finding analog guys! We do analog and RF and both aren't easy to find.

re: #24 Charles

I'm entering these comments on the iPhone right now, in fact, over 3G.

Starting to get the hang of typing on the virtual keyboard. Anyone know if there's a Bluetooth keyboard that works?

From various forums, so far the answer is no. iPhone bluetooth supports mono audio only.

Now I don't feel so foolish being the owner of an olde-generation iPhone.

Ah, the Model T of iPhones: it works exactly as advertised. Eat your hearts out, 3G-adopters!

I am completely pleased with my 3G. I'm in Knoxville and have really good 3G signal quality, although most places here have free WiFi. It is an excellent piece of mobile computing power.

(posted from my iPhone)

When my iPhone fell apart, I put it back together with bailing wire and chewing gum. Now it's just like new!

Does it... you know... make phone calls?

re: #30 Armed

I am completely pleased with my 3G. I'm in Knoxville and have really good 3G signal quality, although most places here have free WiFi. It is an excellent piece of mobile computing power.

(posted from my iPhone)

That's alotta typin' on an iPhone screen. Good job!

re: #32 DoubleU

Does it... you know... make phone calls?

Phone whats? I'm too busy being immersed in techo-gadgetry to care about other people and their problems. Why would I want to talk with them?

The event began in 1991 as a "humble gathering of stoners" but has since grown into "a premier Northwest summer attraction, adding to Seattle's notoriety as a marijuana-friendly city," according to the news release.

Hempfest's grass is greener this year

Far as I can tell, it still is a gathering of stoners......

re: #24 Charles

Not sure, but I am sure it will be expensive... AND TRENDY!

re: #29 zombie

Now I don't feel so foolish being the owner of an olde-generation iPhone.

Ah, the Model T of iPhones: it works exactly as advertised. Eat your hearts out, 3G-adopters!

So you haven't installed the 2.0 software on that?

re: #3 Nevergiveup

So does this mean I have to get rid of my old Iphone and pop for the new one or should I wait for the next update?

The zombie speaketh:

Wait.

re: #32 DoubleU

Does it... you know... make phone calls?

Funny- when I got my new cell phone, I was showing it to my cousin who had just gotten an Ipod Touch. I said (of my new phone) "it plays mp3".
"So does my ipod"
"It takes pictures"
"So does my ipod"
"Does your ipod make phones calls?"
"Uh- no."

re: #31 zombie

When my iPhone fell apart, I put it back together with bailing wire and chewing gum. Now it's just like new!

No duct tape?

re: #32 DoubleU

Does it... you know... make phone calls?

The one my coworker bought doesn't, at least not reliably. He has to walk outside to get a signal.

I get four bars on my Samsung sitting at my desk. And my carrier is AT&T, just like his.

re: #40 reine.de.tout

No duct tape?

zomb's iPhone....
I zombied the zombie!
/

re: #32 DoubleU

Does it... you know... make phone calls?

The phone is actually the least interesting part of it to me, but yes, it's a perfectly good cell phone too.

Some people really seem to hate AT&T, but so far it's been working very well for me.

re: #22 Charles

Yes, and it not uncommon to launch a product with marginal software in terms of HMI and exception handling as long as the upgrade path is solid!

On the other hand, high frequency circuit design resides on the edge of "black magic" and any little thing (like switching from the pre-production PCB vendor to the mass-production PCB vendor) can blow it.

Still, I'd lay my money on a s/w upgrade to-be-announced.

/I bet we'd win.

re: #37 Charles

So you haven't installed the 2.0 software on that?

No, because to do so would un-pwn and un-jailbreak it (re-imprison?). Once you update to 2.0, all your pwnage goes right out the window. I stick with 1.1.4 because it fits me free and easy -- neither AT&T nor Apple know I exist. Ahhhhh...off the grid, yet taking advantage of the Matrix. Am I postmodern or what?

re: #13 pat

Meanwhile Apple can tell me how to get rid of the Apple only down load on my nano. Driving me crazy. Did it once, cannot repeat.

You can jailbreak Nanos too, y'know.

re: #20 Nevergiveup

Nobody can be this stupid can they?

Kerry For Vice President?

[Link: wbztv.com...]

Reporting for duty?

oh please oh please oh please oh please.....

I haven't gotten one. No one ever calls anyway... (sobbing...)
;)

re: #27 jcm

Maybe I should send you a resume!

I'll probably be getting one shortly, and I must admit I don't really care about the speed of the network as much as all that, simply because as it is everyplace I'm likely to be has WiFi. Around the Bay Area so many lunch places have free WiFi and their signal goes out to the street that in many areas you have you choice of networks to jump onto.

#16 Ojoe
Telephone: An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance.
—Ambrose Bierce.

He was a genius. That is closely related to my all-time favorite Devil's Dictionary definition:

TELESCOPE, n. A device having a relation to the eye similar to that of the telephone to the ear, enabling distant objects to plague us with a multitude of needless details. Luckily it is unprovided with a bell summoning us to the sacrifice.

re: #45 zombie

No, because to do so would un-pwn and un-jailbreak it (re-imprison?). Once you update to 2.0, all your pwnage goes right out the window. I stick with 1.1.4 because it fits me free and easy -- neither AT&T nor Apple know I exist. Ahhhhh...off the grid, yet taking advantage of the Matrix. Am I postmodern or what?

What

I'm an unapologetic dinosaur. I just don't want to be that connected. Between my nickle a minute pay as you go phone and my 2-meter ham radio, I'm as connected as I can stand now.

Happy Weekend all.

Google pipped - Apple the new king of Silicon Valley as market value overtakes hi-tech rival.

· Success of iPhone fuels huge surge in share price
· Fall in online advertising hits search engine's profits

re: #24 Charles

I'm entering these comments on the iPhone right now, in fact, over 3G.

Starting to get the hang of typing on the virtual keyboard. Anyone know if there's a Bluetooth keyboard that works?

Which is why the blackberry has been good enough for me the past few years...it handles email so well and the web browser is good enough to read LGF and Instapundit on my downtimes...

re: #40 reine.de.tout

No duct tape?

No, none of that newfangled stuff.

Hmmm...

Maybe that last comment was a little strong.

But I do have a question:

What use does a zombie have for a telephone of any kind?

Does voodoo transmit over radio waves? Or copper wires, for that matter?

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! Sorry! I'm outta here...........

re: #57 thelongblogger

Hmmm...

Maybe that last comment was a little strong.

But I do have a question:

What use does a zombie have for a telephone of any kind?

Does voodoo transmit over radio waves? Or copper wires, for that matter?

These days you can't follow many of the protests without twitter.

Other possibilities (not knowing the hardware/firmware details) are one of a couple of manufacturing issues:

There might be an onboard analog part (a digital pot, calibration number for an A/D, I%Q adjustment really needs to be done, . . .) that simply needs adjustment sometime during the manufacturing process.

There's a tolerance issue of some sort, and one or more parts need to be a tighter tolerance (perhaps a 1% resistor should be the 0.1% variety). They were lucky with the part sample size in engineering, but now . . .

Someone made an assumption on the AVL list (hey, the parts have always been interchangeable on previous designs), but in an RF application . . .

This is little help to the user, but perhaps it is useful for motivating the company.

re: #43 Charles

Some people really seem to hate AT&T, but so far it's been working very well for me.

I tried out a T-Mobile SIM card in my iPhone for a while. Verdict: their coverage STINKS! I decided to go back to AT&T after all.

The wankin' Krauts couldn't build a cell-phone network even if Ilsa, She-Wolf of the S.S. was the overseer!

re: #26 David IV of Georgia

Agreed, however I tend to proceed with a lot more caution these days however. Believe me, it ain't easy. I'm very much a gadget geek, but have found that in the last couple of years I've been able to exhibit just the right amount of discipline and resisitance.

For example, I'm very much into things like good Home Theater, but still have not jumped on the Blu-Ray bandwagon. Not so much for the price point, but for the techonology. If I do buy a new movie on DVD these days, I buy it in Blu-Ray format despite the fact that I don't even have a player!

I've got buddy at work who recently went out and bought a new Blu-Ray player, despite my numerous recommmendations that he wait a little longer. No luck. I think he's gonna feel like sucker real soon.

Perhaps he feels good telling people that he's got a Blu-Ray DVD player. Hope it's all worth it Pal.

Maybe this will help until all the kinks are worked out:

[Link: www.fotosearch.com...]

re: #49 slartybartfast

Maybe I should send you a resume!

Corporate job list, I'm in Lynnwood, but I can bypass HR and get you directly to the manager.

re: #55 MPH

Which is why the blackberry has been good enough for me the past few years...it handles email so well and the web browser is good enough to read LGF and Instapundit on my downtimes...

exactly! my crackberry rocks...
/plus it's free

Sprint has about 5X the footprint, and has WIMAX coming

/just saying but I admit I'm biased on this....

re: #57 thelongblogger

Hmmm...

Maybe that last comment was a little strong.

But I do have a question:

What use does a zombie have for a telephone of any kind?

Does voodoo transmit over radio waves? Or copper wires, for that matter?

Ah, that is my secret! One use I will admit to, however, that I learned about the hard way, is the ability to follow Black Bloc Twitters during rampages. Some o' them anarchists are geeky!

re: #59 protestshooter

These days you can't follow many of the protests without twitter.

You beat me to it!

I love my iPhone. My job gave me one and it's one of those devices that I didn't realize I needed until I got one.

I have become so much more organized (especially since the iTunes app store opened and offered a voice memo app).
It's a must have in my life.
YMMV

re: #64 jcm

Corporate job list, I'm in Lynnwood, but I can bypass HR and get you directly to the manager.

They got anything for a no-talent, bitter, gun-clinging religious zealot?

SEATTLE (AP) -

City officials have finally gotten rid of five high-tech self-cleaning toilets that cost Seattle $5 million but sold online for just $12,549.

Hot diggty damn, can Seattle gov. work a deal or what! Seattle consumer just have to use 24,937,255 bags at the new bag tax of 20¢ to pay off the difference!

re: #70 Taqyia2Me

They got anything for a no-talent, bitter, gun-clinging religious zealot?

There's about 5 us here, we go to range at least once a month on our lunch break.

re: #63 MandyManners

Maybe this will help until all the kinks are worked out:

[Link: www.fotosearch.com...]

FINALLY,,,, an electronics device that works !~!

All you Iphone users. I know you're jealous, you really want one of these.

re: #45 zombie

No, because to do so would un-pwn and un-jailbreak it (re-imprison?). Once you update to 2.0, all your pwnage goes right out the window. I stick with 1.1.4 because it fits me free and easy -- neither AT&T nor Apple know I exist. Ahhhhh...off the grid, yet taking advantage of the Matrix. Am I postmodern or what?

It might start to suck a bit when Apple rolls out its third-party push services... you'd need 2.0 for that.

You're living in the iPhone wilderness, Zombie!

re: #72 jcm

There's about 5 us here, we go to range at least once a month on our lunch break.

Blowing the cobwebs out, sweet!

re: #24 Charles

I'm entering these comments on the iPhone right now, in fact, over 3G.

Starting to get the hang of typing on the virtual keyboard. Anyone know if there's a Bluetooth keyboard that works?

You know, I pecked around on the thing for a while before I realized that there IS indeed a horizontal keyboard -- if you're viewing the Internet in the horizontal way, and call up the keyboard, it shows up in the horizontal fashion.

Why they can't do that for email, I don't know.

Come on, Apple!

re: #55 MPH

Which is why the blackberry has been good enough for me the past few years...it handles email so well and the web browser is good enough to read LGF and Instapundit on my downtimes...

I had to go with a treo 700 wx. Blackberry was too crippled for my use. Of course my inner geek needs a full functional computer on my hip. So the Treo was the only phone in my price range that would do.

re: #52 thelongblogger

What

Unlocking = Reprogramming the iPhone to allow it to use any company or any kind of phone plan -- not only the long-term AT&T plans.

Jailbreaking = Putting in a hacked firmware operating system that allows you to upload ANY kind of software, even non-Apple-approved programs.

Pwning = Utterly rendering the iPhone to be under your total software control, allowing you to do further hacks as-yet undreamt of. (Mostly used by developers and ultra-geeks.)

Also, "pwnage" I think also refers collectively to unlock, jailbreak and pwn as an overall concept -- any forbidden hacking of the iPhone.

All of this ONLY works on first-generation iPhones running first-generation firmware. The new kinds haven't been fully pwned yet.

re: #75 Cognito

It might start to suck a bit when Apple rolls out its third-party push services... you'd need 2.0 for that.

You're living in the iPhone wilderness, Zombie!

Of course it won't last. You know as well as I do that the next jailbreak is on it's way.

re: #77 Cognito

re: #77 Cognito

I usually view it from a sitting position. I find it hared to type laying down horizontally!

So Kerry might be the VP choice? lol

In fact check this out Zombie.

Darn it.

I have one free day during my visit to DC; the rest of it's all work.

It's going to be a beautiful day Saturday, so I thought in addition to checking out the National Museum of the American Indian, I'd see if there were any decent protests.

All I could find on the web was this one. The Quakers, it had to be the Quakers.

I fear it'll be a snooze fest. Zombie, the Quakers don't usually get nekkid and parade around with oversized papier mache puppets, do they?

re: #82 pat

So Kerry might be the VP choice? lol

this was brought up on a previous thread, and I just thought of one other reason (so obvious,,, DUUHH) that it will NOT happen. His ego is too large for him to accept running as #2 after he ran as #1

re: #75 Cognito

It might start to suck a bit when Apple rolls out its third-party push services... you'd need 2.0 for that.

You're living in the iPhone wilderness, Zombie!

Me and all the other Luddite steam-punk retro rebels. We take pride in using obsolete technology. We want to live in a Mad Max world!

re: #82 pat

So Kerry might be the VP choice? lol

Can't wait, J F'n K walks up to Obambi on the convention stage, salutes and says, "Jon Cary reporting for duty!"

Meanwhile on the floor HRC is showing all the superdelegates their FBI files, and when the vote comes down SURPRISE!

re: #73 sattv4u2

FINALLY,,,, an electronics device that works !~!

If you really want a snazzy one:

[Link: www.fotosearch.com...]

Word is that it was broke before it shipped. Don't know if Apple put anything to block the hack before they shipped it. Not that interested in Iphone, so I really haven't looked.

Of course I'm so paranoid about bricking my phone, that I haven't even tried any of the WM6 (hacked, there is no official upgrade for my phone yet) upgrades that are available.

re: #82 pat

re: #85 sattv4u2

this was brought up on a previous thread, and I just thought of one other reason (so obvious,,, DUUHH) that it will NOT happen. His ego is too large for him to accept running as #2 after he ran as #1

oh ,, and by the way. Did you know he was in Vietnam? Too bad he was too humble to mention it when he was running for President. It may have helped his chances

re: #88 MandyManners

If you really want a snazzy one:

[Link: www.fotosearch.com...]

that thars too comleeecated fer me !

I don't see what possibly could go wrong.

Vote early and often for Obama in Ohio

The Associated Press takes note of a new Ohio law that permits voters to register on election day and vote via absentee ballot. No ID will be required.

Sounds like Zimbabwe? Maybe Jimmah can oversee the elections.

Buy a PS3. For the money you get a video game system and a blue ray player.

re: #83 Mars Needs Neocons

In fact check this out Zombie.

I'll believe it when I see it in person!

re: #79 zombie

I meant "what" as in "Am I postmodern, or what?"

I was a steampunk before you were born!

Um..un-born?

/You know what I mean

re: #85 sattv4u2

this was brought up on a previous thread, and I just thought of one other reason (so obvious,,, DUUHH) that it will NOT happen. His ego is too large for him to accept running as #2 after he ran as #1

i disagree. i think kerry is so desperate for attention he would play second fiddle to anyone.

Has anyone heard about how the convention is set up? The line I heard on Hannity today was great. Obama is a guest speaker at his own convention. Hillary is scheduled, Bill is scheduled, Chelsea is scheduled. Don't forget the role call vote, and everything else. Obambi is an after thought. This is a Clinton party.

re: #84 Palandine

I fear it'll be a snooze fest. Zombie, the Quakers don't usually get nekkid and parade around with oversized papier mache puppets, do they?

The ones in Berkeley do, but I doubt they'll run wild in DC.

re: #88 MandyManners

If you really want a snazzy one:

[Link: www.fotosearch.com...]

Personally I want this one.

re: #92 razorbacker

I don't see what possibly could go wrong.

Vote early and often for Obama in Ohio

Sounds like Zimbabwe? Maybe Jimmah can oversee the elections.

Pffft, move on nothing to see......
ACORN’s Voter Fraud in Ohio is Part of Larger Pattern

re: #24 Charles

I'm entering these comments on the iPhone right now, in fact, over 3G.

Starting to get the hang of typing on the virtual keyboard. Anyone know if there's a Bluetooth keyboard that works?

Not sure on the blue tooth bit, but I did see a keyboard gadget a while back. It's battery powered small device and projects and image of a keyboard on a flat surface, the reviewer said you just typed away on the flat image of the keyboard and it worked great.

re: #96 nyc redneck

i disagree. i think kerry is so desperate for attention he would play second fiddle to anyone.

He gets more ink and attention being the former candidate and safely esconced as Massachusetts Junior Senator. As VP (if God forbid Barry won) he would be an afterthought

re: #82 pat

So Kerry might be the VP choice? lol

The left are in collective denial about the fact that Kerry is a steaming pile of communist sympathizing garbage. Everyone else understands fully that Kerry is damaged goods. I'd say Hillary stands a better chance.

re: #84 Palandine

Darn it.

I have one free day during my visit to DC; the rest of it's all work.

It's going to be a beautiful day Saturday, so I thought in addition to checking out the National Museum of the American Indian, I'd see if there were any decent protests.

All I could find on the web was this one. The Quakers, it had to be the Quakers.

I fear it'll be a snooze fest. Zombie, the Quakers don't usually get nekkid and parade around with oversized papier mache puppets, do they?

If i was in DC for just one day..
I would walk around and see everything..i mean everything..
From the classic monuments to Congress.the White House..K street ..i would eat lunch right downtown with the congressmen, lobbists, Senators..who knows..who cares..just experience the city..
/don't get mugged

What ever happened to the open Google operating system for cellphones? Android?

re: #101 Thanos

Not sure on the blue tooth bit, but I did see a keyboard gadget a while back. It's battery powered small device and projects and image of a keyboard on a flat surface, the reviewer said you just typed away on the flat image of the keyboard and it worked great.

Virtual Laser Keyboard , don't think it's iPhone compatible.

Why in the world would American jobs be moving overseas?

The new international tax rankings are out for 2008, and congratulations to Washington, D.C., are again in order. Our political class has managed to maintain America's rank with the second highest corporate tax rate in the world at 39.3% (average combined federal and state).

Those greedy corporate bassards, wanting to save money. How dast they?!

I just watched one of Obama's ads on the TV. Basically he says that McCain is George Bush, oil is bad, the fact that Iraq is making a profit on oil is bad and oil is bad, oh and oil is bad, and oil is bad... and somehow that means Obama is ready to lead.

empty.

re: #100 jcm

Pffft, move on nothing to see......
ACORN’s Voter Fraud in Ohio is Part of Larger Pattern

I should also point out that I told others here a few weeks ago. The dems have set up a table in front of public assistance frequently. The one time I walked by they were trying to register a felon (who did not have any voting rights, he said so himself), by saying "that doesn't matter, we can still register you."

re: #98 zombie

The ones in Berkeley do, but I doubt they'll run wild in DC.

Meh. I may check out the Russkie embassy to see if any peaceniks put together a protest against them. *crickets*

re: #94 zombie

I'll believe it when I see it in person!

I don't know, they're pretty quick. I'd suggest reading all the forums and seeing what they say.

re: #90 sattv4u2

re: #85 sattv4u2

oh ,, and by the way. Did you know he was in Vietnam? Too bad he was too humble to mention it when he was running for President. It may have helped his chances

What about a movie?
Titles anyone?
/ the Deerhunter...the bunnyhunter
full metal jacket
full mental sweater
i dunno..i got nothing

re: #106 jcm

Virtual Laser Keyboard , don't think it's iPhone compatible.

I posted that a couple weeks ago. And I still want one.

re: #105 Mr. E. Train

What ever happened to the open Google operating system for cellphones? Android?

Still coming.

OTOH, the phone my wife wants runs on Linux, so that's getting there.

re: #112 HoosierHoops

What about a movie?
Titles anyone?

"How I went to Vietnam, got rice up my ass, turned it into a purple heart and a senate seat"

re: #88 MandyManners

If you really want a snazzy one:

[Link: www.fotosearch.com...]

that's too fancy for me. Too many buttons.

I don't know, my sister and girlfriend both have the 3G ipone in differnent parts of the country (LA & Michigan) and they have the same issue. When the 3G isn't switch off, it fails to operate as a phone entirely. Calls drop every 2-5 seconds. It is really frustrating. With the 3G switched off it seems to work well though.

re: #115 sattv4u2

What about a movie?
Titles anyone?

"How I went to Vietnam, got rice up my ass, turned it into a three purple hearts and a senate seat"

minor surgery.

re: #104 HoosierHoops

I'll be here again, and I've been here before. I've seen:

The Capitol, White House, Supreme Court, National Mall, Washington Monumnt, WWII Memorial, Navy Yard, NSA Cryptological Museum, Air and Space Annex at Dulles.

Haven't seen Jefferson or Lincoln Memorials, Smithsonian, Holocaust Museum, Spy Museum, Korean War Memorial, Vietnam Memorial, Memorial to Victims of Communism (may try to see that tomorrow).

My feet are pretty much already shot from the past 3 days of walking arund for my job, so tomorrow I'm taking it relatvely easy, but I definitely want to get into the National Museum of the American Indian.

re: #118 FrogMarch

thanks Frog

re: #120 sattv4u2

thanks Frog

no prob. It's the perfect movie title.

re: #109 Mars Needs Neocons

I should also point out that I told others here a few weeks ago. The dems have set up a table in front of public assistance frequently. The one time I walked by they were trying to register a felon (who did not have any voting rights, he said so himself), by saying "that doesn't matter, we can still register you."

The WA Sec State finished his review of the WA voter rolls after the '04 election mess. Purged 400,000 registrations off the rolls. The WA govenors race was won by the (D) on the 3rd recount by 129 votes.

Anyone think a few of those 400,000 may have been voted?

What about other states that haven't reviewed the rolls?

WA is an average size state, 50 times 400,000. That potentially 20 million illegitimate voter registrations out standing? And if only a fraction of those are voted fraudulently?

With ACORN doing it's best to make that happen?

It's not a small issue.

re: #115 sattv4u2

What about a movie?
Titles anyone?

"How I went to Vietnam, got rice up my ass, turned it into a purple heart and a senate seat"

sorry.. 'Apocalypse Now' is already taken

re: #121 FrogMarch

re: #123 HoosierHoops

the sequel

'How to marry two incredibly rich women with the personality of a tree stump"

re: #115 sattv4u2

What about a movie?
Titles anyone?

"How I went to Vietnam, got rice up my ass, turned it into a purple heart and a senate seat"

I'm Jon Cary, I served in Vietnam.
_{How the Swiftboaters pooped in my rice bowl}

I'm stuck on Sprint. What I want is an iPod Touch, with no worries about phone service or cellular connectivity. I'm in the smack-dab middle of the I-35 corridor in a very Apple city, so finding compatible hot spots is no problem for me.

Besides, I always name my iPods something funny, and I've been dying to name an iPod "I Touch Myself."

re: #122 jcm

I'm beginning to suspect that MT is flooded with corruption from the dems.

Somehow, just miraculously, the Republican contender for Senate wound up being a man who supports nationalizing most industry (especially oil and trasportation) and supports socialized medicine and an expanded welfare system.

Somehow the most corrupt governor in MT history only receives positive press. A man who ran on his haircut and unsubstantiated charges against his opponent (later completely thrown out), won the last Senate election (even though he had numerous charges of campaign finance fraud being brought against him, they later disappeared).

The Republican booth at the fair is being harrassed and threatened by the Dems (who are switching out with Planned Parenthood and all the social service organizations booths), and when they go to the fair committee, they are told that if they can't put the minimum personnel on their booth then they will be banned from all future events.

WTF

re: #126 RememberSekhmet?

I'm stuck on Sprint. What I want is an iPod Touch, with no worries about phone service or cellular connectivity. I'm in the smack-dab middle of the I-35 corridor in a very Apple city, so finding compatible hot spots is no problem for me.

Besides, I always name my iPods something funny, and I've been dying to name an iPod "I Touch Myself."

I kind of want a touch, or one of the knockoffs. Even though my phone does all that I just want something I can read in bed (yes ebooks) or watch movies with, then plug in by my bed and go to sleep. I prefer having my phone in its cradle at night.

re: #127 Mars Needs Neocons

What's going on there? I would think MT would be rock solid conservative, or have Billings and Bozeman gone moonbat?

re: #124 sattv4u2

re: #123 HoosierHoops

the sequel

'How to marry two incredibly rich women with the personality of a tree stump"

You're on a roll! perfection!

re: #129 jcm

Bozeman's full of people who own condos or ranches but live elsewhere..... my brother has a place up there, and we're from way down South. It's gorgeous..... but if I were a local, I might be snarky about it.....
One thing to love about Bozeman: it's literally the most dog-friendly town .... so cool the way they accomodate 'em everywhere.......

Once the phone gets it's evolutionary WII integration you'll be able to talk to people by walking along the streets wildly waving your arms and hands when gyrating around parking meters.

re: #129 jcm

What's going on there? I would think MT would be rock solid conservative, or have Billings and Bozeman gone moonbat?

Bozeman is moonbat, Helena is moonbat, most of the places near the mountains are moonbat, Billings is starting to head moonbat. The only places left that are strict conservative are out in the farmlands.

re: #132 hazzyday

Once the phone gets it's evolutionary WII integration you'll be able to talk to people by walking along the streets wildly waving your arms and hands when gyrating around parking meters.

Did you know the wii remote can be used to make any computer screen a touchscreen, or create a virtual whiteboard with a projector? Plus you can use it to make a virtual reality type control system for pc. There is a guy doing amazing things with the wiimote.

This is the guy. Someone in Nintendo or another company needs to hire him NOW!

re: #131 tradewind

Bozeman's full of people who own condos or ranches but live elsewhere..... my brother has a place up there, and we're from way down South. It's gorgeous..... but if I were a local, I might be snarky about it.....
One thing to love about Bozeman: it's literally the most dog-friendly town .... so cool the way they accomodate 'em everywhere.......

And let's not forget, Ted Turner and David Letterman. I moved to MT to escape the moonbat infestation spreading over WY, turns out it's worse here. And CO is mostly a lost cause. Sorry Walter.

re: #134 Mars Needs Neocons

This is the guy. Someone in Nintendo or another company needs to hire him NOW!

No Doubt! Nintendo could use him to change the Wii from a toy to a tool.

re: #136 StPatrick

This is the guy. Someone in Nintendo or another company needs to hire him NOW!

No Doubt! Nintendo could use him to change the Wii from a toy to a tool.

Its pretty amazing.

Just to add my raves - Yesterday I got my 16gb iPhone 3G at the Northridge, CA Apple store after I ditched my Verizon XV6800 and Verizon after horrible service, a couple of resets needed a day, and a royal pain the a$$ trying to get this to hold a USB sync connection with my notebook using Active Sync and Windows Mobile Device Center.

I've had no problems with phone service, I'm not in a 3G area at home- but there I have a wireless network to use. Over in Santa Clarita, no problem with the 3G. Had lunch listening to streaming talk radio on the AOL Radio app. Easy to download / work in apps. No problem connecting it to my Vista SP1 notebook or syncing Outlook calendar, contacts, and mail to the iPhone. Browsing on Safari on the iPhone far better than any of the WinMobile browsers I've tried. Best of all - no restarts of the device.

I do wish the volume was a little louder - but the 6800 had the same challenge. If it could only tether and support AD2P BT (Stereo BT) it would be 10 out 10. As it is, it's 8.5 out of 10.

re: #138 Athos

Just to add my raves - Yesterday I got my 16gb iPhone 3G at the Northridge, CA Apple store after I ditched my Verizon XV6800 and Verizon after horrible service, a couple of resets needed a day, and a royal pain the a$$ trying to get this to hold a USB sync connection with my notebook using Active Sync and Windows Mobile Device Center.

I've had no problems with phone service, I'm not in a 3G area at home- but there I have a wireless network to use. Over in Santa Clarita, no problem with the 3G. Had lunch listening to streaming talk radio on the AOL Radio app. Easy to download / work in apps. No problem connecting it to my Vista SP1 notebook or syncing Outlook calendar, contacts, and mail to the iPhone. Browsing on Safari on the iPhone far better than any of the WinMobile browsers I've tried. Best of all - no restarts of the device.

I do wish the volume was a little louder - but the 6800 had the same challenge. If it could only tether and support AD2P BT (Stereo BT) it would be 10 out 10. As it is, it's 8.5 out of 10.

My treo also has the sound issue. It seems to be a problem amongst most smartphones.

AD2P is available as an independent download. Take a look they may have it for Iphone. (Of course you'd have to have jailbreak from what they tell me.)

re: #139 Mars Needs Neocons
Given Apple's rep - I'm not going to jailbreak this one.....I wouldn't want something coming out in a few months that will turn it into a brick.

I figure that a future firmware update will add the required BT profile.

I do have a BT device for my 30GB iPod that handles the A2DP....that I may try this weekend with my Jabra stereo headset. Perhaps it would work the same way as on the iPod and I pair to the dongle and not the iPhone.

re: #140 Athos

Given Apple's rep - I'm not going to jailbreak this one.....I wouldn't want something coming out in a few months that will turn it into a brick.

I figure that a future firmware update will add the required BT profile.

I do have a BT device for my 30GB iPod that handles the A2DP....that I may try this weekend with my Jabra stereo headset. Perhaps it would work the same way as on the iPod and I pair to the dongle and not the iPhone.

It's possible. I don't know. Apple and all these other damn companies seem to want to cripple functionality, and I can't figure out why the hell they do it. The manufacturers cripple the systems, then the cell phone companies cripple them more.

Yup..

There's a 30 day return window. The software is awesome. I'd get the phone but I absolutely need reliable phone service and I absolutely need e-mail delivered to my phone. What bothers me the most is Apple's refusal to comment on the problems and the nazi moderators on the apple discussion forums.

I agree Charles, the interface, the form factor (so thin), the usability
are years ahead of anything else out there. It is so good it is magic.

In my neck of the woods, it has perfect 5 bar 3G in our little downtown and the waterfront. It is almost like being on wifi. However, approximately one mile away, on my couch the phone can barely get a signal.
This also happened with my last AT&T phone years ago, so I don't think
I can blame my bad AT&T signal (on my couch) on the iPhone.

SO for now, I must keep my much older rock solid motorola E815.
Verizon definitly has a better network in Massachusetts and probably the east coast. My dream, like many others would be to have the iPhone on Verizon. But I had already waited one year, and with the App Store and the built-in software, it truly is a ground breaking machine.

Of course if I had designed the phone, I would have put an external antennae on it. All this speculation about "an immature stack" is just speculation for now. I think we picked the right time to get one. And Apple has put a major boot up the ass of all the other terrible smart phones collective backsides.

re: #51 zombie

Another good Ambrose Bierce definition is:

Egotist: N. A person of low taste, more interested in himself than in me.

Typing this on my 3G.

My only complaint is Safari crashes on me sometimes.

20 year Mac user
3 year AT&T user
1 month iPhone owner
Mixed Jindal fan (these days)

Mine works more or less as well just as good as my Nokia in my house here in Vegas. Bigger problem is crashing from downloaded store apps (but most are all still version 1.0 now at this stage, so whatdya expect?) and Safari crashing on certain sites (but when you're asking a phone to do a computer's job, this is to be expected to a certain extent. My Nokia Symbian OS crashed about the same on the internet.)

Someone might have already mentioned this, but sounds like it's something fixable in software - that the transition from Edge to 3G drops calls.

It's still been the most overall satisfying product I've ever bought. OK, maybe my 24" iMac takes that cake. Or my old G4 iBook that's still kickin' it hard.

OK, just did an informal experiment in my house that I've never considered... duh.

I live in a fairly common metropolitan area in the NW corner of Vegas. I get 2 bars 3G in my place. Just force turned off 3G in the menu and I get 5 bars of EDGE now.

So I'm blaming AT&T more than Apple for the need to transition at all. The 3G network is clearly not as beefed up as EDGE yet. I can use Wi-fi at home, work, and my local coffee shop. I might just turn 3G off completely, UNLESS I am out and really surfing where there's not a wi-fi spot at the tire shop or DMV or something. Save's battery too until AT&T gets better coveage.

That's why I stick with Verizon. Their shit works.

my 3G service started to hiccup the other day, but the problems only lasted about 24 hours. I spent 40 minutes on the phone with Apple Support, and learned the realities of the (for now) spotty 3G service. My gut feeling is that it is a network issue and that they will improve the connectivity over time. I grilled the Apple techie pretty hard, and she sounded credible when she painted it as a problem "they are working to improve". The current issues don't sound like a existing hardware problem to me. The EDGE network is a decent surrogate when you really, really need to get online.

I don't have problems with it using 3G with my iPhone here in New Zealand. Coverage outside of major cities is almost non-existant and the minimum 24 month contracts are ridiculous.

I have two iphones, one each for me and my wife. We live in Chelsea in Manhattan and have the same problems: it will use Edge network when in an area that is supposed 3G and then a stranger problem tying into servers that are both locked and or not online such that I have to go settings to "forget network" in order to use the browser. Definitely some work to be done on the coordinating software.

Which wants are fullfilled by this product?

Why does it require a special treatment to restore open competition of software, network and service providers? Why does this treatment (apparently) conflict with the contract of sale?

How can the user protect himself against surveillance, data retention and the entire device being turned into a stealth shackle by government agencies? Is there any user-to-user encryption, non-traceable routing, public key management, location data scrambling, or other security enhancements compared to convencional cellphones?

Try sell it to me...

I am guessing more of these problems are DUE TO AT&T than they are really due to the iPhone itself.

My new 3G iPhone has been a disappointment.

Bad SIM card or something and the phone shuts off.

Worse is the text message feature sucks. You can't send photos (MMS) without having to open them with a password and it never works.

Lastly, the coverage is spotty at best. Lots of dropped calls (on the Monterey Peninsula) and the sound is way to quiet for me (I can't hear a thing.)

I am going to the new Apple store here to get it checked out. I loved my Blackberry and I may go back to it.

Just Sayin'.

Thank goodness for the airport wireless network. My first gen iphone barely gets 2 bars where the AT&T coverage map says it should be great. I have a hard time believing that map. Maybe Bobby can exorcise all that interference!

I went from having no cell phone at all two years ago to receiving my iPhone two days ago. This thing is incredible. I love that it uses wi-fi when available, and the stupid little apps you can put on it are silly (mylighter?), but then again, I'm easily amused my such things.

I picked mine up in Thousand Oaks the day after Charles' first post about it tipped me off to renewed inventory. I waited in a line of only four folks, and within twenty minutes my Moto Razr was orphaned as it sat in my car. I resisted smartphones for a long while, waiting for the right combination of capabilities that finally put all my portable gadget needs into one device, and this is it.

For me, it isn't about the phone part so much as it is about the Iphone becoming the centerpiece of my implementation of David Allen's method as outlined in his book "Getting Things Done". When I read that book, I knew that it could only work for me if all the functionality was in one place -- and that place is wherever I happen to be. I was already thinking about an Iphone, but that was the clincher.

A PDA could have done this, except that's another thing to carry beside the phone, and as prone as I am to losing things, there can be only one!

I did notice 3G issues athe Los Angeles Convention Center earlier this week, but I put that down to the likely density of competing Iphones in the area (it was SIGGRAPH, duh!).

So far, the one application that I love the most is being able to access sigalert.com anytime, anywhere for immediate traffic info. No more missing key bits going under a bridge while listening to KNX or KFWB.

I owned the old iPhone and purchased the new iPhone 3G the day it came out (Note: Not by choice, I accidentally "washed" my old one a week before the 3G release).

The old iPhone had great reception. The iPhone 3G has none.

I have read about the poorly made chip and that Apple plans to try a software update over the next 2 weeks, but I'm looking for an offer to replace it completely to be honest.

If I hadn't had a comparison then I wouldn't care as much.

Oh, and they also are using different (and quieter) speakers in the 3G model. The old iphone had great sound from those little speakers. You could actually put it on your desk and listen to it. And speaker phone worked like a charm.

The 3G version has crappy sound/speakers and none of the volume of the old phone.

It's also weaker when using "line in" to my car radio. On my 3G I have to turn the sound to 40 (compared to 15-20 on CD and radio and old iphone).

Man, I'm bitchy today.

I bought the new iPhone as well. My experience has been the same as Charles with the exception that I can get a full 3G connect at my studio. But instead of using the 3G I simply use the WiFi when at home or work. 3G is fantastic when pulling down traffic and road maps.... and I've found it's speed is a good 4-5x faster than the Edge connection. I have found some 3rd party apps that are buggy and crash on occasion, but I expect those developers will work out their bugs over time.

A friend of mine had connectivity issues with their 3G, but it turned out to be a very physical problem: the case was pressing too hard on something or other, which disrupted the connection. Not really a hardware issue, per se, and the repair people (not Apple's) fixed it quickly at the shop. But the back-and-forth between Apple and AT&T took hours on the phone. I have real problems with these types of joint efforts. Lots of finger-pointing.