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And Now for Some Tommy Emmanuel

Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:28:26 pm PDT

Tommy Emmanuel plays “Since We Met.”

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1 astronmr20  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:29:49pm

Looks like standard tuning this time.

2 astronmr20  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:30:41pm

Good musicians will always sound good in mono.

Hail youtube!

3 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:30:48pm
4 ggt  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:31:00pm

weet dreams all!

5 astronmr20  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:32:25pm

re: #4 ggt

weet dreams all!

Don't be vulgar.

6 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:37:05pm

Why I am Voting Democrat this November...

I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a much better job of spending the money I earn than I would spending it on my family.

I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.

I'm voting Democrat because the minute we pull out our troops out of Iraq, I trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now think we're good people.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell me if it will rain during our picnic this Saturday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away and the polar bears will drown in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius or taking public transportation, even as they continue to fly in their Lear Jets to tell us how we're killing the planet while they're flying to their numerous mansions.

I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of unborn babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that businesses should not be allowed to keep most of their profits for themselves. They need to give most of their profits to the government for redistribution as us compassionate liberals see fit.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe four or five pointy-headed elitist liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution whenever they see fit to suit some other pointy-headed elitist kook-fringe liberals who would NEVER get their agendas past the American voters.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists don't have to hide from us over there, then they come over here, and we don't have any guns in the house to fight them off with, they're just go back home.

I'm voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry whoever and whatever I want. I've decided to marry myself.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 8 cents on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas 60 cents isn't, and because those evil oil men at Exxon-Mobil made $4000 a second profit is ripping us off, but Exxon-Mobil paying $14,000 a second in taxes to the government sounds fair to me.

Actually, I'll NEVER vote democrat...

7 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:39:26pm

re: #6 Bob in Breckenridge

That's GOOD, Bob!

Where'd it come from?

8 Racer X  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:41:48pm

re: #6 Bob in Breckenridge

I'm voting democrat because I am tired of being held accountable for my own actions.

9 outsidephilly  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:43:11pm

re: #6 Bob in Breckenridge

You sure do have a way with words, Bob!

10 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:43:39pm

re: #6 Bob in Breckenridge

Why I am Voting Democrat this November...

I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a much better job of spending the money I earn than I would spending it on my family.

I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.

I'm voting Democrat because the minute we pull out our troops out of Iraq, I trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now think we're good people.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell me if it will rain during our picnic this Saturday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away and the polar bears will drown in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius or taking public transportation, even as they continue to fly in their Lear Jets to tell us how we're killing the planet while they're flying to their numerous mansions.

I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of unborn babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that businesses should not be allowed to keep most of their profits for themselves. They need to give most of their profits to the government for redistribution as us compassionate liberals see fit.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe four or five pointy-headed elitist liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution whenever they see fit to suit some other pointy-headed elitist kook-fringe liberals who would NEVER get their agendas past the American voters.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists don't have to hide from us over there, then they come over here, and we don't have any guns in the house to fight them off with, they're just go back home.

I'm voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry whoever and whatever I want. I've decided to marry myself.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 8 cents on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas 60 cents isn't, and because those evil oil men at Exxon-Mobil made $4000 a second profit is ripping us off, but Exxon-Mobil paying $14,000 a second in taxes to the government sounds fair to me.

Actually, I'll NEVER vote democrat...

Loved that!

11 solomonpanting  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:43:44pm

UAW endorses Obama for president

[UAW President Ron] Gettelfinger cites Obama's promise of $4 billion in low-cost financing for automakers to retool to make more fuel-efficient vehicles.

That's all? Only $4 billion? Heck, the automakers can loose that much in one year.
I'm voting Democrat because my taxes will help support domestic industries that can't seem to make on their own.

12 astronmr20  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:44:46pm

I'm voting democrat because I don't know what to do with all my money. Please help me figure out what to do with it!


Anyone else?

13 realwest  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:45:05pm

re: #11 solomonpanting
The UAW supports Obama? I'm shocked, SHOCKED I SAY! LOL!

14 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:45:42pm

I'm voting Democrat because I think Hillary and Nancy are sexy.

15 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:46:07pm

re: #7 Karridine

That's GOOD, Bob!

Where'd it come from?

It was about 5 lines sent to me by a guy a went to school with, and I figgered I could improve it a little... : )

16 outsidephilly  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:46:47pm

I am voting democrat because the three wisest people in my life tell me that's what I should do . . . .

17 astronmr20  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:48:18pm

I'm voting democrat because I think $4.00 gasoline builds character.

18 realwest  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:48:30pm

re: #14 victor_yugo
Now that's just SICK! LOL!

19 realwest  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:50:05pm

Well all y'all I gotta go try to get some sleep tonight!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

20 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:50:08pm

re: #15 Bob in Breckenridge Ah! I thought I got it in an email recently OR saw it somewhere else within the last 36 hours...

NOT saying you din't wrote it, just saying maybe its become more popular than you ever THUNK it am! :D

21 solomonpanting  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:50:08pm

re: #13 realwest

The UAW supports Obama? I'm shocked, SHOCKED I SAY! LOL!

All new cars will come with properly inflated tires for the life of the vehicle.

22 Truck Monkey  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:50:54pm

I'm voting Democrat because I am tired of thinking for myself.

23 outsidephilly  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:51:13pm

nighty, night all . . . .

24 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:51:31pm

OT-please excuse the interuption

I received this information earlier today, and have posted it on a
3 or 4 threads already. Some have bnot seen this yet. It is for them and the interested that I re-post it here.

My son Todd, who is on the Staff at Saddleback church, sent me
a letter from Dr. Rick Warren to all his staff to set some rumors and out-right lies to rest. I send it to you verbatim.

It is my intention to post this letter to other threads tomorrow as well.

To: Everyone - SVCC
Subject: Stupid Rumor/ and other thoughts


Dear Saddleback Staff,

We're being swamped with positive comments about the format of the forum, about both candidates, and about how people learned more about each of them than they knew before and actually seemed to appreciate both men more than before. If we can increase the level of civility and lower the level of "gotcha" partisanship in this election cycle, that will be a great thing. I was personally pleased with the way both men's personalities shown out and I wrote a personal congratulations to both men on the fine jobs they did. I was proud of both of them

However, it seems that somebody who didn't like the Forum is systematically calling media to raise questions about McCain possibly hearing part of the Forum. Of course McCain didn't hear anything. Both men agreed to the terms of the Forum and I trust both of them. They are questioning the integrity of McCain, the Secret Service, and our own security.

Actually, I'm afraid this rumor will hurt the Obama campaign, because if someone asks me, I'll have to say that I told Barack in advance about one of the questions, that I never got a chance to tell John McCain about because he wasn't on campus yet.

I did an interview with Dan from Beliefnet which felt pretty antagonistic. He charged "An anonymous source told me that John McCain was watching a monitor in his green room." Flat out Impossible! But Dan had called Tim Farley at XM radio and talked to Tim about this. Other media had been called too. Whoever is spreading this, is going to look like a fool when the truth gets out, and it may have repercussions. Of course, everyone is trying to force me to take sides, which I steadfastly refuse to do. But pray for me because this dishonest rumor angers me.

Here are some facts

1. There were Secret service staff and Saddleback staff with McCain with him thee, and there was no way McCain could have listened to anything without being seen. There were cameras on him when he arrived.

2. "When I said 'cone of silence' I was obviously being silly-the crowd laughed at the obvious metaphor reference to Get Smart. But Senator McCain was put in a green room in a DIFFERENT BUILDING without any contact.

3 Chuck Taylor, Saddleback staff member DISCONNECTED the TV from the source as part of creating a silent green room. If anyone had even tried to turn the TV in that room all they would have got was static!

The truth is , both candidates did an OUTSTANDING JOB at the Forum. They were both articulate, and not only did America get to hear their different views for America's future, but we got to see their God-given personalities (their SHAPE) in action.

I am overwhelmed by the incredible work of our staff team, the leadership of Erik, David, and so many others of you who played a vital role in pulling off the weekend. WOW! I thank God for you, for your service, for your talent, and for the great testimony it was to the world.

Today, I received word from the President of the nation of Georgia (which has been under attack by Russia). In near tears, he thanked Saddleback Church for mentioning his country under attack during the forum for the whole world to hear.

He had watched the Saddleback Civil Forum in his nation, and was so moved that their situation was mentioned, and he asked me to personally ask our church and our network of churches to pray for Georgia in this crisis.

Rick

25 Racer X  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:52:09pm

I'm voting democrat because the Senate cannot even figure out how to run their cafeteria, but we need government to manage our healthcare.

26 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:52:43pm

I am voting Democrat because America is just wrong. Bring it all down, man.

27 Truck Monkey  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:52:52pm

I'm voting Democrat because taking responsibility for myself really sucks, and it's hard too.

28 Racer X  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:54:13pm

I'm voting democrat because they say things that make me feel good about myself.

29 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:54:31pm

I am voting NDP/Liberal (Canadian version) because I now our military is a waste of money and resources better spent on Daycare checks for the country.

/that hurt.

30 solomonpanting  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:55:25pm

I'm voting Democrat because any change, regardless of the consequences, is better than what we have now.

31 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:56:07pm

I am voting Democrat because my money can be better spent by a government nihilist with a comb-over.

32 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:56:26pm

re: #12 astronmr20

I'm voting democrat because I don't know what to do with all my money. Please help me figure out what to do with it!


Anyone else?

Have you considered Scientology?

Or Scienetics?

33 Clemente  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:57:27pm

re: #6 Bob in Breckenridge

All over the web...

34 Racer X  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:58:07pm

Should the motto "In God We Trust" be removed from U.S. currency?

Vote on it at MSNBC

35 Cartman  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:59:32pm

I'm voting Democrat because those awful voices in my head keep telling me to do so.

/make them stop

36 Racer X  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 9:59:58pm

I'm voting democrat because Hope and Change just have to be wonderful right? Right?

37 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:00:05pm

OT OPEN QUESTION to our military minded LGF'ers.

Soldiers killed in battle, in this case Vietnam, had "toe tags." Do any of you know if that was the small metal version of the dog tag, or the paper type tag we see in movies like in morgue shots.

I am starting to prop out our next show "Summertree" and I need a Vietnam era "toe tag" but the script doesn't specify, metal, paper or what.

I've done some googling, but some descriptions are not that clear.

38 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:02:00pm

re: #35 Cartman

I'm voting Democrat because those awful voices in my head keep telling me to do so.

/make them stop

It's the space alien cooties.

39 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:02:01pm

re: #37 Walter L. Newton

2 dog tags are issued, IIRC. One stays with the body, the other goes to Graves and Registration.

40 Racer X  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:02:11pm

I'm voting democrat because my hippy mom college professor told me to.

41 astronmr20  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:03:10pm

I'm voting democrat because it will get me laid more.

/college male off

42 wtc394  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:03:33pm

re: #37 Walter L. Newton
in the field or later on ? I know we put one of our tags intwined in out boot laces incase that was all that was left...or someone found a few and you needed yours back. But that was early 90's.

43 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:04:05pm

re: #39 rawmuse

2 dog tags are issued, IIRC. One stays with the body, the other goes to Graves and Registration.

So, they are the metal ones, the smaller metal one (as per my research)?

44 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:04:33pm

I'm voting Democrat because fat, drunk, and stupid is the way to go through life.

45 Fierce Guppy  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:04:38pm

"Since We Met" has a strong, beautiful melody. That's my favorite from Tommy Emmanuel, so far.

46 JHW  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:04:59pm

re: #43 Walter L. Newton

They're both exactly the same.

47 Racer X  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:05:02pm

Give up Hope and get a Plan.

Oh and Global Warming is Change BTW.

48 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:05:04pm

re: #41 astronmr20

I'm voting democrat because it will get me laid more.

/college male off

I said it on the afternoon thread, but it's true. That's why I'm 55 and still smiling.

49 Cartman  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:05:24pm

re: #41 astronmr20

I'm voting democrat because it will get me laid more.

/college male off

And a whole slew of really nasty STDs.

50 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:07:13pm

re: #43 Walter L. Newton

So, they are the metal ones, the smaller metal one (as per my research)?

Yes, and there is a rubber liner that goes around them so they do not make noise. I don't think the toe bit is accurate, that is for civilian morgues. Plus, many military casualties have missing body parts. The one that stayed with the body was often placed between the top front incisors.

/Don't ask me why I know this. My Dad was a KIA.

51 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:07:37pm

re: #46 JHW

They're both exactly the same.

Ok, but I found a website that sells metal dog tags, and they mention standard size ones and the smaller ones being used as toe tags, so I'm curious.

I guess what I am most concerned about is 1) A Vietnam era toe tag would be metal, similar to a dog tag, and 2) not the paper ones we see in morgue shots in movies.

52 Cartman  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:07:49pm

I'm voting Democrat, because then all the hurricanes will stop.

53 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:08:10pm

I voting Democart because it promise to pay for the lotobomy I getted last week, and them will pay Reel Soon Now.

54 Fierce Guppy  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:08:46pm

I'm voting Democrat because... wait! I live in New Zealand. Oh, bugger!

55 pat  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:09:05pm

Star Trek Safety Tip: When on the Enterprise, do not respond to "distress signals".

56 Racer X  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:09:16pm

re: #41 astronmr20

I'm voting democrat because it will get me laid more.

/college male off

Only if your new government run healthcare provider authorizes the payments.

Stay republican, make the big bucks, and the babes will run to you.

57 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:09:26pm

re: #50 rawmuse

Yes, and there is a rubber liner that goes around them so they do not make noise. I don't think the toe bit is accurate, that is for civilian morgues. Plus, many military casualties have missing body parts. The one that stayed with the body was often placed between the top front incisors.

/Don't ask me why I know this. My Dad was a KIA.

Great, thanks for everyones help. I need the smaller metal dog tag type, possibly with a rubber edge.

58 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:09:28pm

re: #50 rawmuse

Just don't ask how it was placed there. I was told once as part of my training. Makes me cringe to this day when I think about it.

59 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:09:55pm

re: #37 Walter L. Newton

OT OPEN QUESTION to our military minded LGF'ers.

Soldiers killed in battle, in this case Vietnam, had "toe tags." Do any of you know if that was the small metal version of the dog tag, or the paper type tag we see in movies like in morgue shots.

I am starting to prop out our next show "Summertree" and I need a Vietnam era "toe tag" but the script doesn't specify, metal, paper or what.

I've done some googling, but some descriptions are not that clear.

casualty tags..... i've got some somewhere: they're like the old fashioned luggage tags with wire twists at one end. they can be used for both live patients, and KIAs. about 3" by 6" or so, like an oversize checkbook.

i'll see if i can remember the official name, and or find mine, but they're likely in storage.

60 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:10:29pm

re: #43 Walter L. Newton

So, they are the metal ones, the smaller metal one (as per my research)?

no. dog tags and the "toe tags" are different items.

61 solomonpanting  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:10:37pm

re: #54 Fierce Guppy

I'm voting Democrat because... wait! I live in New Zealand. Oh, bugger!

New Zealand? Doesn't matter. You really can vote Democrat.

62 wtc394  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:11:04pm

re: #57 Walter L. Newton

I'f I'm not mistaken, rubber came much later,usually there were taped together

63 astronmr20  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:11:16pm

re: #48 Walter L. Newton

I said it on the afternoon thread, but it's true. That's why I'm 55 and still smiling.

Ah. I have dated my share of moonbats, too (:

I love it when they think they can "change" my opinion. Frustration with me leads to arguing, leads to discontent, leads to fighting, leads to great make-up "piano playing."

64 Neo Con since 9-11  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:11:28pm

I'm voting Democrat because they will prosecute Bushhitler/CheneyMcHaliburton for their war crimes in the rape of Iraq and their involvement in the 9/11 attacks.

65 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:11:30pm

re: #59 redc1c4

casualty tags..... i've got some somewhere: they're like the old fashioned luggage tags with wire twists at one end. they can be used for both live patients, and KIAs. about 3" by 6" or so, like an oversize checkbook.

i'll see if i can remember the official name, and or find mine, but they're likely in storage.

Ok, now I have a new description. I'm confused again. Small metal dog tag like, or 3"x6" luggage tag type?

66 pat  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:11:58pm

Obama attacks McCaine on the Corsi book. Now he attacks Saddleback on The Cone Of Silence, aka The Cone Of Stupidity.

67 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:12:20pm

re: #51 Walter L. Newton

re: #57 Walter L. Newton

The dogtags issued are a standard size. There were no toe tag versions. The rubber edge was a sleeve that fit around the tags. I don't know how old that innovation is but you will see some movies and t.v. shows that the soldiers used gun tape to wrap around them to silence them and to remove the shine from the metal.

/gun tape is essentially dark green duct tape, but a lot better at sticking in damp enviroments.

68 Racer X  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:13:24pm

I'm voting democrat because it's not above my pay grade.

69 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:14:32pm

re: #67 BlueCanuck

re: #57 Walter L. Newton

The dogtags issued are a standard size. There were no toe tag versions. The rubber edge was a sleeve that fit around the tags. I don't know how old that innovation is but you will see some movies and t.v. shows that the soldiers used gun tape to wrap around them to silence them and to remove the shine from the metal.

/gun tape is essentially dark green duct tape, but a lot better at sticking in damp enviroments.

Ok, this from a website that makes tags, from WWII style and up.

"However, tags have numerous good uses and when you order more than one complete set, the cost per tag decreases. The military isses two dog tags per soldier. The reason is that as morbid as it may sound, in the unfortunate situation of a soldier being killed in combat, one tag would stay with the soldier (usually on the smaller tag, called a toe tag, the other would go to next of kin). Obviously, you would not need two tags for such a purpose. However, if you have more than one complete set then you may tag other items or share similar messages with a friend or loved one. "

They mention small and large.

70 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:15:21pm

re: #46 JHW

They're both exactly the same.

i beg to differ......

71 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:16:16pm

re: #63 astronmr20

Ah. I have dated my share of moonbats, too (:

I love it when they think they can "change" my opinion. Frustration with me leads to arguing, leads to discontent, leads to fighting, leads to great make-up "piano playing."

You were peeking, weren't you?

72 JHW  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:16:32pm

re: #57 Walter L. Newton

redc1c4 is correct , casualty tags are large paper ones, used in the field. I've never heard of toe tags specifically, but I would guess the only ones that could give you a real answer are military mortician MOS, a very small number of specialists. I tried to post before, but posted by mistake in the earlier thread. Karridine might know a little about this.

73 astronmr20  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:17:45pm

re: #71 Walter L. Newton

My methods are original! I swear!

74 JHW  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:17:50pm

re: #70 redc1c4

Well, they were the same when I was in, Are they different now, and how?

75 Racer X  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:17:56pm

I'm voting democrat because I'm tired of living in mom's basement and government subsidized housing sounds way cool.

76 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:18:59pm

re: #72 JHW

redc1c4 is correct , casualty tags are large paper ones, used in the field. I've never heard of toe tags specifically, but I would guess the only ones that could give you a real answer are military mortician MOS, a very small number of specialists. I tried to post before, but posted by mistake in the earlier thread. Karridine might know a little about this.

Ok, I'll keep "casualty tags" in mind. Scripts can be notoriously inaccurate when describing props.

77 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:20:40pm

re: #72 JHW

Not much, but Civil War corpses were taken care of by civilians, after the CW, by the services. Dieners are part of the Quartermaster Corps, and take care of embalming and preparing for travel the mortal remains of our troops.

/talked to one once, when he and I were two out of 6 able-bodied passengers on a C-47 moving across America with 42 aboard, most of them alive.

78 wolfie  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:20:51pm

re: #54 Fierce Guppy

I'm voting Democrat because... wait! I live in New Zealand. Oh, bugger!

No problem!
Just fly on into Chicago!

79 kahall  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:22:20pm

I'm more of an electric guitar, EVH type guy, but Tommy Emmanuel is the man. I see in the last few vids of TE you have posted here he's getting a little gray around the ears. Me too!

80 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:22:26pm

re: #69 Walter L. Newton

I've only seen one standard size of dog tag.

81 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:22:55pm

re: #65 Walter L. Newton

Ok, now I have a new description. I'm confused again. Small metal dog tag like, or 3"x6" luggage tag type?

dog tags are the small metal ovals with basic info stamped on them, Name, Social, Blood Type & Religious Pref, IIRC.

each soldier is supposed to have two, so that if they are KIA, one can be taken, assuming the body isn't evaced immediately, and one stays with the corpse. i was told, unofficially, that they best thing to do with that tag was to put it between the front teeth, on edge, and kick the jaw shut so that the tag would be weged between the teeth, where it could be recovered for forensic use.

the "toe tags" come in what looks like an oversize checkbook. the one i have is blue in color on the outside, with black printing, and the contents are fairly stiff paper (think 3x5 card texture) printed in English & French, and a carbon copy.

there are a variety of blocks to fill in, who, what, when, where, how, morphine given, etc.......

the original is affixed to the patient with the wire, and the carbon is kept by the medic for their records.

i'll see if i can find mine, or get current data from friends who are still in.

email is blue, should you wish to contact me off LGF regarding this. i'll be happy to help.

82 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:23:23pm

re: #66 pat

Obama attacks McCaine on the Corsi book. Now he attacks Saddleback on The Cone Of Silence, aka The Cone Of Stupidity.

Which of course doesn't come close to explaining away The Ones pitiful performance!

Oh, yeah....it's above his pay grade IQ capacity!

83 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:23:38pm

re: #80 The Other Les

I think the company meant the little metal-beady chains, one of which was long (around the neck) and the other being about 2-inches in diameter, perfect for a toe-tag...

84 RTLM  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:25:19pm

Another Saudi Arabian marital horror story.

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia, Aug. 18 (UPI) -- A forced marriage drove a 16-year-old Saudi girl to drink bleach rather than marry a 75-year-old man, she said.
Her own father was "swapping" her for the 13-year-old daughter of the other man, said the girl identified only as Shaikha, who saw suicide as her only way out of an unwanted marriage, Dubai's Online news service al-Arabiya reported Monday.
The 16-year-old described being taken to meet the old man and the 13-year-old in a marriage office where all had premarital tests done. Shaikha has since appealed to the National Society of Human Rights to stop the marriage, asking to go live with her mother, who is separated from her father.
At least one authority is in agreement while the case remains under investigation.
"Judges can punish men who force their daughters to marry like this," Sheikh Abdul Mohsin al-Obeikan, Shura Council member said, adding that the marriage contract was necessarily void because it violated Shariah law.

85 UncleSam  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:25:36pm

I'm voting Democrat because illegal aliens are far superior to US citizens and should be supported by taxes gathered under threat of imprisonment and/or confiscation of assets of legal citizens.

86 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:25:58pm

re: #81 redc1c4

Name, ENLISTMENT NUMBER (RA 19811354) Blood type...

87 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:25:58pm

re: #81 redc1c4

Gah, you had to describe the proper placement of dog tags. :P

88 eastvillageinfidel  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:26:37pm

I'm voting democrat because they have nice auras and soft eyes.

89 Cartman  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:27:00pm

I'm voting Democrat because I've never done an honest day's work in my life, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna start now.

90 eastvillageinfidel  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:27:09pm

I just gave myself the creeps.

91 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:27:23pm

Can anyone explain the reason for my name (at the top of the comment box) changing colors on different posts?

(Is there an FAQ page for us lizards?)

92 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:27:56pm

I am voting Democrat because careful analysis of the issues is just so damn boring. Oh, look, a squirrel!

93 Racer X  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:28:29pm

re: #90 eastvillageinfidel

I just gave myself the creeps.

A little penicillin will cure that right up.

94 Racer X  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:29:48pm

re: #91

That is weird. #91 is totally blank.

95 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:30:15pm

re: #91 Dizzy26

You might have the show e-mail box ticked from time to time. When your nic is blue that means other lizards can click it and get your e-mail to contact you. Others will have a webpage or other address where they may hang out or post on.

/why you will see some people saying my nic is blue and that they are looking for an e-mail or offering theirs to discuss of board.

96 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:30:25pm

re: #94 Racer X

That is weird. #91 is totally blank.

not on my screen

97 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:30:29pm

re: #92 rawmuse

I am voting Democrat because careful analysis of the issues is just so damn boring. Oh, look, a squirrel!

LOL. That reminds me of the "message missing" error on Craigslist "Oh look, a dragonfly."

98 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:30:43pm

re: #96 Dizzy26

You've been had...

99 Racer X  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:31:04pm

re: #96 Dizzy26

not on my screen

Sorry, just messin with you.

100 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:31:12pm

re: #98 rawmuse

You've been had...

Many times :-)

101 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:31:18pm

re: #91 Dizzy26

Can anyone explain the reason for my name (at the top of the comment box) changing colors on different posts?

(Is there an FAQ page for us lizards?)

Flashbacks?

102 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:31:19pm

re: #90 eastvillageinfidel

I just gave myself the creeps.

Don't worry! The Church of Obamatology can clear you of those creeps.

And all those funny colored pieces of paper too!

103 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:32:06pm

re: #86 Karridine

Name, ENLISTMENT NUMBER (RA 19811354) Blood type...

ssn when i joined, old timer..... %-)

104 slokat  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:32:15pm

re: #95 BlueCanuck

Darn Blue - I was gonna tell her it was like a mood ring and let us know what she was thinking...

//

105 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:32:35pm

re: #103 redc1c4

ssn when i joined, old timer..... %-)

RA 12583772

106 JHW  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:32:55pm

re: #83 Karridine

Yep, that's what I think. For those who weren't in military, I'll add this, I know you already know this Karridine. Some of the guys wore the long chain around the neck, and the other around either the wrist or laced in a boot. Mine were exactly the same size metal, in those days (67-68) we didn't use the social security number. It went RA =Regular Army., US=Draftee, NG=National Guard, ER=Enlisted Reserve, O= Officer, followed by 8 numbers, mine started with number RA 19 which = Regular enlistee, West Coast. My brother was drafted, his started US 56=Draftee West Coast. I don't know the other services system.

107 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:33:05pm

not close to my 111 SS #

108 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:33:16pm

re: #102 The Other Les

Don't worry! The Church of Obamatology can clear you of those creeps.

And all those funny colored pieces of paper too!

"He was warmly received by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who called him "a leader that Xenu has blessed us with at this time."

109 Clemente  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:33:29pm

re: #94 Racer X

That is weird. #91 is totally blank.

Do not mention comment #91,

/RT check

110 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:34:26pm

re: #109 Clemente

Do not mention comment #91,

/RT check

It is the "comment we dare not name."

111 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:34:43pm

Did I Fuk up?

need some help here

112 RememberSekhmet?  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:35:16pm

I'm voting Democrat because I think George W Bush is still running, and I got, like, so mad at him, for like, being totally uncool and stuff.

113 slokat  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:35:28pm

re: #110 Walter L. Newton

It is the "comment we dare not name."

The comment that came in from the cold?

or

The comment that came out of the closet?

114 jorline  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:35:47pm

re: #29 BlueCanuck

I am voting NDP/Liberal (Canadian version) because I now our military is a waste of money and resources better spent on Daycare checks for the country.

/that hurt.

BC...see my #753 to answer you point on the other thread about Newfoundladers.

I'm a slow typist and had a long response, then I lost the whole comment and had to start over...lol. This one is shorter...hope you get my gist when you read it.

115 Clemente  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:36:04pm

re: #111 Dizzy26

Did I Fuk up?

need some help here

No, you're fine! We's messin' witcha!

116 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:36:11pm

This is my favorite Tommy Emmanuel, so far. Thanks Charles. What a great piece....listening for the second time.

117 Racer X  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:36:17pm

Oh look, a dragonfly!

118 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:37:11pm

re: #111 Dizzy26

You are doing just fine. Keep your arms and legs inside the ride at all times. Objects in the mirror may be larger than they appear. In the rare case of erections lasting more than 4 hours, call Heather.

119 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:37:51pm

I am voting Democrat this fall so that the Europeans will pretend to like us again

120 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:38:16pm

re: #117 Racer X

Oh look, a dragonfly!

Beat ya to it, see my #97. A Craigslist junkie, Huh.

121 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:38:37pm

re: #108 Walter L. Newton

"He was warmly received by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who called him "a leader that Xenu has blessed us with at this time."

I can tell you what Christmas is all about.

[Link: www.milkandcookies.com...]

122 slokat  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:38:40pm

re: #117 Racer X

Oh look, a dragonfly!

The blue ones taste like chicken...

123 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:38:55pm

re: #118 rawmuse

You are doing just fine. Keep your arms and legs inside the ride at all times. Objects in the mirror may be larger than they appear. In the rare case of erections lasting more than 4 hours, call Heather.

You know Heather too?

124 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:39:46pm

re: #123 Walter L. Newton

You know Heather too?

She tells me to clear out when you are coming over...

125 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:40:03pm

uh, got that number?

For Heather I mean.

I'm old, but not too old.

126 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:40:40pm

re: #121 The Other Les

I can tell you what Christmas is all about.

[Link: www.milkandcookies.com...]

That was excellent!

127 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:40:52pm

re: #125 Dizzy26

She only digs actors and musicians.

128 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:40:56pm

Is 3 minutes long enough?

129 RememberSekhmet?  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:41:36pm

re: #118 rawmuse

You are doing just fine. Keep your arms and legs inside the ride at all times. Objects in the mirror may be larger than they appear. In the rare case of erections lasting more than 4 hours, call Heather.

Wouldn't calling Hillary be more effective for that?

130 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:41:43pm

re: #103 redc1c4

ssn when i joined, old timer..... %-)


Being a nation WITHOUT a 'national identity card' (a la Egypt) an SSN comes close enough, I guess.

No argument, Sir.

131 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:41:45pm

re: #124 rawmuse

She tells me to clear out when you are coming over...

So we have met, in a leftover DNA sort of way?

132 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:42:21pm
133 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:42:26pm

re: #114 jorline

Thanks, quick question was the the lizard beating up on dorians initials RGBDJ?

/curiosity.

134 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:42:44pm

Now--where can I find out more about LGF and/or blogging?
(read the dictionary pagr, didn't see nuthin'.

135 solomonpanting  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:43:25pm

I'm voting Democrat because I'll be able to gaze with greater admiration at the posters on my wall of Carter, Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Clinton, Clinton, Dean, and Edwards.

136 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:44:02pm

re: #118 rawmuse

re: #123 Walter L. Newton

Sounds like you two are keeping her busy.

137 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:45:16pm

re: #122 slokat

The blue ones taste like chicken...


I asked a friend from Mississippi what 'possum tasted like, and he answered, "Oh, it tastes a bit like owl..."

/ :D

138 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:45:31pm

My computer is a dinosaur too. (dial-up 56K) takes longer than my
erection interest could possibly last to download stuff.

any better ideas?

139 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:46:06pm

re: #130 Karridine

Being a nation WITHOUT a 'national identity card' (a la Egypt) an SSN comes close enough, I guess.

No argument, Sir.

"sir"?

i w*rk for a living.

/former enlisted scum

140 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:46:07pm

I'm voting democrat because the Caucases were crawling with a few too many pro-western democracies to begin with.

141 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:46:11pm

re: #138 Dizzy26

UPGRADE, now!

142 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:46:35pm

re: #129 RememberSekhmet?

Depends. Do you want to enjoy your self or not?

143 Clemente  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:46:59pm

re: #111 Dizzy26

need some help here

A blue nic links either to your masked LGF email-forwarding reference, or to an HTML link you've entered in your account info, under "Website." I've no idea why it would change state without your own input to your account info.

"Do not mention..."
Just an obscure joke...

144 solomonpanting  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:47:02pm

re: #138 Dizzy26

My computer is a dinosaur too. (dial-up 56K) takes longer than my
erection interest could possibly last to download stuff.

any better ideas?

Take Viagra for more RAM?

145 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:47:12pm

re: #135 solomonpanting

Dude, you simply must come by to see my murals of Che and Mumia. LOL

146 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:47:20pm

heh heh, saw Heather............sorry, lost it fast!

147 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:47:39pm

re: #139 redc1c4

"sir"?

i w*rk for a living.

/former enlisted scum

Yep, a real scum of the earth you are.

/currently out of salt so you will have to get by.
//you should be used to that by now.
///white smoke.

148 solomonpanting  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:49:23pm

re: #145 Pvt Bin Jammin

Dude, you simply must come by to see my murals of Che and Mumia. LOL

Whatever happened to "Would you like to see my etchings?"

:)

149 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:49:58pm

re: #146 Dizzy26

Had a dude from my old company on the NorK DMZ turn himself into a full tuck-and-roll 'trans-sexual' after service... at the age of 42... calls himself "Heather' now, sad case... Is THAT who you saw?

150 jorline  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:51:04pm

re: #133 BlueCanuck

Thanks, quick question was the the lizard beating up on dorians initials RGBDJ?

/curiosity.

No, it started with her comment at #368 then his comment at #386. You can follow it from there. Funny thing is that he didn't rake #375 over the coals, but tore dorian a new one.

I believe in giving a lizard the benefit of the doubt. If the person exhibits tendencies of be a bigot...bury them and I'm with you. I thought this was over the top...perhaps I'm wrong.

151 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:51:15pm

re: #148 solomonpanting

It must be old school. LOL

152 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:51:51pm

re: #141 Karridine

UPGRADE, now!

Hi old friend, still 'over there? Hope you've been well and happy since '04.

I've really 'lost' a lot since then, but kept my computer. (stayed sober though- over 7633 days now.)

Good s'seeing' you again.
No chance to upgrade, but thanks for the suggestion anyway.

153 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:51:59pm

re: #150 jorline

I concur YOUR analysis. Over the top.

154 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:52:47pm

re: #143 Clemente

A blue nic links either to your masked LGF email-forwarding reference, or to an HTML link you've entered in your account info, under "Website." I've no idea why it would change state without your own input to your account info.

"Do not mention..."
Just an obscure joke...

IIRC, it goes pale if you've clicked on the link in question

155 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:53:06pm

re: #152 Dizzy26

Waitaminnit!

Is this a person once known by the name of a single, drunken letter?

156 jorline  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:53:15pm

re: #153 Karridine

I concur YOUR analysis. Over the top.

Thanks, Karridine...dorian's a good person.

157 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:53:43pm

ah, I see now.

I had entered my addy before, but it self destructed...:-)

158 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:54:20pm

re: #149 Karridine

Had a dude from my old company on the NorK DMZ turn himself into a full tuck-and-roll 'trans-sexual' after service... at the age of 42... calls himself "Heather' now, sad case... Is THAT who you saw?

obviously, he never wanted to get recalled..... %-)

159 slokat  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:56:32pm

So rawmuse... which street corner was I on? Patina

160 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:56:43pm

re: #138 Dizzy26

Seriously, at least take the plunge to DSL. I've only had it for about a year and SO glad I did it, you'll be able to see all of the videos we post in seconds. Got brave a couple of weeks ago and got Firefox, too.

PS...I am so old my hubby had an SS # for his service number too.

161 RememberSekhmet?  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:57:10pm

must...pass...out

162 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:57:18pm

re: #155 Karridine

Waitaminnit!

Is this a person once known by the name of a single, drunken letter?


Don't think so. 4 years ago, you helped me here on LGF a bit, and e-mailed me some 'personal' info. I think my computer 'crashed' and I just never re-connected til a few weeks ago.

I lived in Garden Grove, Ca back then.

163 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 10:59:19pm

re: #159 slokat

That is the flatiron style building on Columbus, home of Zoetrope Studio.

164 gop_patriot  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:00:07pm

re: #132 rawmuse

OK, here is Heather.

That is too funny. =)

165 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:00:19pm

re: #162 Dizzy26

Okay. Check yr InBox

166 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:02:08pm

re: #164 gop_patriot

I like the "dismount".

167 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:02:34pm

re: #160 Pvt Bin Jammin

Seriously, at least take the plunge to DSL. I've only had it for about a year and SO glad I did it, you'll be able to see all of the videos we post in seconds. Got brave a couple of weeks ago and got Firefox, too.

PS...I am so old my hubby had an SS # for his service number too.

I have firefox for a browser, but really can't spare a dime sister.
(Brothers can you spare a dime?)

I know my stuff's ancient, but it's either give up smoking or stay with dial up:-) And it's the only vice I have left...Sure don't want to the 2nd ONE

168 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:03:18pm

re: #166 rawmuse

I like the "dismount".

Well, then you should like... nevermind, I'm not going to touch that one.

169 gop_patriot  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:05:36pm

So, what music (besides Tommy Emmanuel) is everyone listening to tonight? :)

Me, Seether.

170 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:05:45pm

From Cnn...

"Residents of southwestern Florida are bracing for the arrival of Tropical Storm Fay as it plods through the eastern Gulf of Mexico, the National Hurricane Center said. Fay is expected to be near hurricane strength when it makes landfall and residents are preparing to blame President Bush as early as Tuesday around 5 a.m. or 6 a.m. "

171 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:06:42pm

re: #165 Karridine

Okay. Check yr InBox

Just checked... "?

172 gop_patriot  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:06:56pm

re: #166 rawmuse

I like the "dismount".

Ha. :) I liked what one commenter called the "sloth" move, when he's hanging under the bar and then does the splits under there. Awesome.

How are you doing, Rawmuse?

173 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:07:01pm

re: #165 Karridine

Ooog... a squam-blocker!

/Okay, hurdle jumped

174 slokat  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:07:13pm

re: #163 rawmuse

That is the flatiron style building on Columbus, home of Zoetrope Studio.

I liked this contrast of style & era.

175 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:07:34pm

re: #171 Dizzy26

See #173

176 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:07:54pm

There was nothing there there

(Do I have an in-box here? )

177 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:08:01pm

re: #167 Dizzy26

I'm with you, our bills have been out of sight.

Firefox is sure great, though, isn't it?

178 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:08:06pm

re: #172 gop_patriot

I am just hanging out with Thag, on the sofa, watching the Olympics. We have eaten everything in the house. Life is good.

179 gop_patriot  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:08:59pm

re: #170 Walter L. Newton

Can a tropical storm/hurricane "plod" over the water? LOL That doesn't sound right. Plod sounds like it would involve land.

Hiya Walter. Hope you're doing well this evening!

180 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:10:01pm

re: #178 rawmuse

Is Thag your dog?

181 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:10:12pm

re: #176 Dizzy26

Earthlink hit me with a SPAM filter, which I had to jump through...

You might receive my original email, any day now... :P

182 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:10:59pm

re: #178 rawmuse

I am just hanging out with Thag, on the sofa, watching the Olympics. We have eaten everything in the house. Life is good.

But TOMORROW, life will be HUNGRY!

183 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:11:45pm

re: #159 slokat

So rawmuse... which street corner was I on? Patina

your usual one?

/white smoke %-)

184 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:11:48pm

re: #178 rawmuse

Thag has many characteristics in common with dogs, but I am not sure where he falls on the evolutionary spectrum. Dog-bear-pig-ape type of thing.

185 slokat  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:11:51pm

Dizzy - I think I need to apologize, it looks like up the thread that I mis-gendered you...

186 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:12:25pm

Aw damn, went to my suspected spam, (had 3 msgs. & deleted)

Then came here, saw your post went back and poooft gone

Could Mr K D resend?

187 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:12:50pm

re: #184 rawmuse

Ah, so he's evolved. Cool.

188 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:13:39pm

re: #179 gop_patriot

Can a tropical storm/hurricane "plod" over the water? LOL That doesn't sound right. Plod sounds like it would involve land.

Hiya Walter. Hope you're doing well this evening!

Yep, doing fine right now. I tried to get my sugery consult for my hernia pushed up sooner, since the damn thing is poking me on a daily basis, but no go.

So, I have to wait until next Monday. And then, I hope they schedule the darn thing ASAP. I don't know how many more weeks I can get along with this before it becomes nasty critical.

I'm hoping to get this done BEFORE our next show opens on Sept. 19th. I can get coverage during this show, but we are short one staff member during the next show.

189 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:13:59pm

re: #33 Clemente

All over the web...

The one I got was similar, as you can see. I expanded on it...which is what I said when I posted it. I never claimed I was the composer. : )

190 slokat  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:14:02pm

re: #183 redc1c4

hah! (I actually drove down Folsom street, but nothing was looking at all like a Zombie expose')

191 LeePro  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:14:15pm

re: #134 Dizzy26

Now--where can I find out more about LGF and/or blogging?
(read the dictionary pagr, didn't see nuthin'.

"...find out more about LGF..."...............?

Um, you DO realize this IS LGF.....right?

You are → HERE ←
and I noticed that you've been here since 2004... slow learner?

192 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:15:29pm

re: #187 Pvt Bin Jammin

Ah, so he's evolved. Cool.

We crossed the land bridge many moons ago, together, when it was big and large animals could cross, seeking the land of plenty that they call Iowa.

193 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:15:41pm

re: #177 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm with you, our bills have been out of sight.

Firefox is sure great, though, isn't it?

Guess we're talking about a different thing.

I have Firefox as a broas an ISP. (I'm sure of that!wser (I think) and Earthlink , I'm sure of that one :^)

194 gop_patriot  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:15:56pm

re: #178 rawmuse

Glad to hear you're doing well. :) I haven't watched the Olympics this year- as much as I usually do, anyway. Have been keeping up with Phelps though.

/no snack foods here. but we do have Dos Equis Ambar, which kind of makes up for it. LOL

195 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:16:58pm

re: #185 slokat

Dizzy - I think I need to apologize, it looks like up the thread that I mis-gendered you...

Damn, never been that before. Did I scream?

196 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:17:23pm

re: #192 rawmuse

Is that you, Iowahawk?

197 LeePro  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:17:38pm

Joke received via email today:

A public school teacher was arrested today at John F. Kennedy
International Airport as he attempted to board a flight while in
possession of a ruler, a protractor, a set square, a slide rule, and a
calculator. At a morning press conference, the Attorney General said he believes the man is a member of the notorious Al-gebra movement. He did not identify the man, who has been charged by the FBI with carrying weapons of math instruction.

'Al-gebra is a problem for us,' the Attorney General said. 'They
desire solutions by means and extremes, and sometimes go off on
tangents in a search of absolute value. They use secret code names like 'x' and 'y' and refer to themselves as 'unknowns,' but we have determined they belong to a common denominator of the axis of medieval with coordinates in every country. As the Greek philanderer Isosceles used to say, ''There are 3 sides to every triangle.''

When asked to comment on the arrest, Senator Obama said, 'If God had wanted us to have better Weapons of Math Instruction, he would have given us more fingers and toes.' Democratic leaders told reporters they could not recall a more intelligent or profound statement by the Senator.

198 zombie  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:17:42pm

World’s Financial Problems Solved: Afghan Hobo Finds $723 Trillion in Ditch

KANDAHAR, AFGHANISTAN (AP) — All financial problems worldwide were solved yesterday when a hobo from Kandahar found $723 trillion in a ditch.

“I was just looking for a shady place to lie down,” the unemployed vagabond said through a translator. “I prefer ditches, when I can find them. This seemed more comfortable than the average ditch, but then I realized, ‘Hey, I’m lying on money.’”

The hobo, who goes by the single name Abdul, hasn’t yet decided what he wants to do with the money. “They tell me there’s enough here to pay off all national debts, provide free health care for everyone in the world, to end starvation and eliminate class differences around the globe,” Abdul said. “But then where am I going to sleep?”

Upon hearing news of the discovery, Alan Greenspan, former Chairman of the Federal Reserve, said, “Well, looks like I wasted my entire life. Sixty years of studying economics and enforcing monetary policy for nothing. I could have been partying the whole time.”

199 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:17:53pm

re: #195 Dizzy26

Damn, never been that before. Did I scream?

Yea, I heard you here in Golden. LOL

200 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:18:24pm

re: #193 Dizzy26

I have Firefox as my browser and Earthlink as my internet provider, too.

201 gop_patriot  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:18:27pm

re: #188 Walter L. Newton

Oh no! I didn't know about that. My good friend just had hernia surgery, today in fact. Was a 4 hr. surgery... is that normal? She called me tonight, and is doing fine, hurting a bit, but pumped full of morphine.

I'll keep you on my prayer list. Keep us updated!

202 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:18:29pm

Thag and I consider it our patriotic duty to watch the USA women's beach volleyball team. 103 consecutive wins. Think about it. 103. These gals are on fire.

203 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:19:02pm

re: #179 gop_patriot

Maybe it can plod on water, in which case it will be renamed Tropical storm Obama

204 gop_patriot  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:20:44pm

re: #197 LeePro

re: #198 zombie

HA! Two good ones in a row! :)

Hi LeePro! (((YOU))) how are you doing?

205 LeePro  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:20:54pm

re: #152 Dizzy26

Hi old friend, still 'over there? Hope you've been well and happy since '04.

I've really 'lost' a lot since then, but kept my computer. (stayed sober though- over 7633 days now.)

Good s'seeing' you again.
No chance to upgrade, but thanks for the suggestion anyway.

WOW! Over 20 years! Congrats!

/May 10, 1989

206 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:21:41pm

re: #197 LeePro

LOL, loved it.

207 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:22:25pm

re: #201 gop_patriot

Oh no! I didn't know about that. My good friend just had hernia surgery, today in fact. Was a 4 hr. surgery... is that normal? She called me tonight, and is doing fine, hurting a bit, but pumped full of morphine.

I'll keep you on my prayer list. Keep us updated!

Four hours? That seems long. I have an indirect inguinal hernia, left groin. I had one 20 years ago on the right, took 45 minutes.

It's day surgery (when they FINALLY pick the day).

208 slokat  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:22:41pm

Zombie Haiku

///

...poetry for your brains

209 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:23:11pm

re: #197 LeePro

OMG that is great! Can I steal it?

210 gop_patriot  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:24:00pm

re: #202 rawmuse

I saw Gabrielle Reece once. She walked by me... she was TALL. Was working out in a local gym here... think she was in town for a Pro golf tournament. Big, big girl.

211 gop_patriot  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:25:40pm

re: #207 Walter L. Newton

Four hours? That seems long. I have an indirect inguinal hernia, left groin. I had one 20 years ago on the right, took 45 minutes.

It's day surgery (when they FINALLY pick the day).

Hers was in her stomach area. I wonder if she was just morphined up and didn't remember the time correctly. LOL Anyway, hope this next surgery for you is quick and the recovery easy. :)

212 LeePro  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:27:39pm

re: #159 slokat

So rawmuse... which street corner was I on? Patina

slo, your photography takes my breath away! Is there a place online where we can see collections?

213 Temujin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:27:40pm

re: #198 zombie

Zombie , I have several questions about this story.

In the first place, is this money U.S. greenbacks, or is it the official Afghan currency (the afghani) ?

Second : what's the official exchange rate ?

Third : who is the funny-looking guy with the beard whose picture is on the bills ?

/RSVP ...

214 rawmuse  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:28:02pm

OK, niters all. Tomorrow is another day!

Thag and I will have some hunting/gathering to do. We will catch up with this whole agrarian movement eventually, I'm sure.

Until then, pillage and plunder!

215 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:29:10pm

re: #214 rawmuse

'nite, you two, 'weet dreams.

216 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:29:52pm

re: #211 gop_patriot

Hers was in her stomach area. I wonder if she was just morphined up and didn't remember the time correctly. LOL Anyway, hope this next surgery for you is quick and the recovery easy. :)

Honestly, I can tell you the recovery is nothing compared to the pain of your intestine pushing through a spot in your abdominal wall. And the morphine is fun!

Thanks for the support. Of course, I'll bother everyone with the details as things progress.

217 slokat  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:30:16pm

re: #214 rawmuse

weet dreams!

and, you'd need a sidecar for Thag?

218 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:30:49pm

re: #214 rawmuse

OK, niters all. Tomorrow is another day!

Thag and I will have some hunting/gathering to do. We will catch up with this whole agrarian movement eventually, I'm sure.

Until then, pillage and plunder!

Night, and double on the... oops, you didn't mention rape.

219 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:35:03pm

re: #210 gop_patriot

I still have the issue of Playboy with Gabrielle Reece on the cover.

And lots of Gabrielle Reece on the inside, too.

220 slokat  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:35:12pm

re: #212 LeePro

Thanks!

Via my nic, then go to portfolio... I update every week, or so depending on what I get time for (shooting and/or updating)

221 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:35:26pm

re: #191 LeePro

"...find out more about LGF..."...............?

Um, you DO realize this IS LGF.....right?

You are → HERE ←
and I noticed that you've been here since 2004... slow learner?

I meant the etiquite, and stuff about blogging here. But yes, I'm an OLD, slow learner.

I was here 4 years ago, but, had some health, & $ problems and a computer crash.

Just returned a week or so ago, maybe 3.

More than you wanted to know huh?

222 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:36:21pm

re: #221 Dizzy26

Good luck, and we'll meet tomorrow!

223 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:37:15pm

re: #200 Pvt Bin Jammin

I have Firefox as my browser and Earthlink as my internet provider, too.

Cool, I was a pvt once. ( a real E1 through 5)

love ur nic

224 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:39:16pm

re: #205 LeePro

WOW! Over 20 years! Congrats!

/May 10, 1989

My best friend is EXACTLY 1 week younger than you :-)

congrats!

225 LeePro  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:39:22pm

re: #204 gop_patriot

re: #198 zombie

HA! Two good ones in a row! :)

Hi LeePro! (((YOU))) how are you doing?

{ { {G} } }
Hey, girl! Good to see you all spruced up and back online. You were really missed here!

I'm doing well (sorta). Looking forward to your next Memphis visit... we should plan another Lizard meet-up, since you missed the last one!

;D

226 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:39:53pm

re: #223 Dizzy26

LOL, I'm just an old gal and liked that Goldie Hawn movie, Pvt Benjamen.

Never been in the service myself but have a family of Marines on both sides, other services, too.

I'm a Soldiers' Angel, we adopt deployed service personnel.

227 LeePro  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:41:12pm

re: #209 Pvt Bin Jammin

OMG that is great! Can I steal it?

Of course you can! Stolen property is always up for grabs!
;D

228 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:41:20pm

Back in about 6 hours.. weeeet dreams? all

229 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:42:16pm
230 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:42:19pm

re: #227 LeePro

Great, I have a few friends/family that will love it.

231 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:42:35pm

re: #220 slokat

hey there slokat, I tried my first insect picture yesterday afternoon. Had to crop and zoom the picture so you could see it. Not as easy as some people make it look.

232 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:43:32pm

re: #228 Dizzy26

'nite, Dizz, 'weet dreams. Glad you made it back to LGF.

233 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:43:44pm

re: #229 redc1c4

No thanks. :p

234 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:44:30pm

re: #229 redc1c4

LOL

235 Karridine  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:45:42pm

re: #232 Pvt Bin Jammin

Yeah, really... a couple of hard-disk crashes can wipe out some real, friendly links even when conscientiously backing-up and restoring... Dizzy-26 used to be someone I knew... heh! :D

236 LeePro  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:45:53pm

re: #220 slokat

Thanks!

Via my nic, then go to portfolio... I update every week, or so depending on what I get time for (shooting and/or updating)

Thanks! Been there a few times. Must go there more often!

:D

237 gop_patriot  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:47:24pm

re: #225 LeePro

I know, I'm telling you- major LGF withdrawals. Glad to be back online!

Can you eat Commissary yet? I'm craving bbq big time. :)

238 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:48:08pm
239 LeePro  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:48:12pm

re: #221 Dizzy26

I meant the etiquite, and stuff about blogging here. But yes, I'm an OLD, slow learner.

I was here 4 years ago, but, had some health, & $ problems and a computer crash.

Just returned a week or so ago, maybe 3.

More than you wanted to know huh?

I think I owe you an apology. After reading your further comments, I realized all that you've just said. I was outa line... forgive?

240 slokat  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:48:26pm

re: #231 BlueCanuck

I have a macro lens, so that I can get up to about an inch and a half away... provided they don't pay attention & fly away first.

Some insect photos buffs use long macros (lenses that are both telephoto & macro) so that they can maintain a little distance , but still focus closer than a normal lens.

241 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:49:06pm

re: #235 Karridine

Really nice, after all those weird socks that came out of '04 showing up recently.

242 gop_patriot  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:51:23pm

re: #229 redc1c4

"There is always that thrill for something that is local and you get the sense that these are people you can meet at the supermarket."

Huh. And I always thought the thrill was the nekkid people doing, uh, stuff.

Learn something new every day. X)

243 slokat  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:52:41pm

re: #241 Pvt Bin Jammin

Really nice, after all those weird socks that came out of '04 showing up recently.

So, is this where the socks that are lost in the wash end up?

244 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:52:53pm

re: #240 slokat

Hmmm, something else to put on my list. Along with a newer camera. :)

245 MrTunes  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:55:11pm

Is this still a music thread?

I put this forth for your consideration:
Artist: Esquivel
Song: Snowfall

Odd, but very pleasant.

246 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:55:58pm

re: #243 slokat

So, is this where the socks that are lost in the wash end up?

We seem to be gathering them up lately, don't we?

...trouble is, we already threw out some of the mates, after all these years.

247 LeePro  Mon, Aug 18, 2008 11:58:18pm

re: #237 gop_patriot

I know, I'm telling you- major LGF withdrawals. Glad to be back online!

Can you eat Commissary yet? I'm craving bbq big time. :)

Had meat ravioli tonight w/garlic toast. The toast was a little rough chewing, but it's getting better. Still craving steak, pork chops, AND BAR-B-Q! ! !

Also still with temp denture; they say permanent one will be better. Next checkup @ Sept 24 (sooner if they have cancellation). Slow but steady...

248 LeePro  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:00:57am

re: #238 victor_yugo

Six jihadis don't get the 72 raisins each!

PERFECT! ! !
Blew themselves up for nothing!

The cowards.

249 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:01:05am

re: #247 LeePro

{LeePro} I'm so glad it's better. What a rough summer you have had.

250 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:02:04am

re: #248 LeePro

/passes out candies...

251 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:04:36am

re: #245 MrTunes

Do you have a first name on the Esquivel?

252 gop_patriot  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:06:30am

re: #247 LeePro

Yum! We had spaghetti with meat sauce here tonight. I was good and didn't actually eat any, though. Had fast food for lunch and didn't need the extra carbs... thought I was doing pretty well, then forgot and started drinking beer a while ago. LOL Oh well.

Sept. 24 is pretty close, I'm just glad that you're eating solid healthy foods again. :) Seriously, we are so going to the Commissary when you're feeling up to it.

253 Karridine  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:06:32am

Weird socks, unwashed puppets, long-lost posters... this is Cyber-gatory....

Ain't too bad, neither! :D

254 LeePro  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:07:04am

re: #249 Pvt Bin Jammin

{LeePro} I'm so glad it's better. What a rough summer you have had.

Thanks, PBJ!
You and all my friends here have been really kind and supportive! Also, God gave me bucketloads of courage and stamina and stuff, so I'm extremely lucky! Had lots of physical and emotional trauma in my lifetime, too. God is large!

255 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:07:53am

re: #253 Karridine

No it's not. When we discover unwashed sock puppets, they are thrown into the trash disposal.

256 gop_patriot  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:07:54am

re: #253 Karridine

unwashed puppets?! I think I need to scroll up. LOL

How are you doing, Karridine?

257 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:08:12am

re: #254 LeePro

Amen to that.

258 slokat  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:09:23am

re: #253 Karridine

this is Cyber-gatory....

Is that a step up from Siberia, or a step down?

259 Karridine  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:10:48am

re: #256 gop_patriot

Fine, thankee M'um, but for Blue Canuck's RUDE & RACIST comments about unloved stocking orphans... alone in the world, and forced to an early demise...

/the lout!

****
That said, I'm in a Tuesday afternoon in cloudy, overcast but jasmine-scented suburban Bangkok! How YOU?

260 redc1c4  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:11:51am

re: #250 Fenway_Nation

/passes out candies...

salt water taffy?

261 Karridine  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:11:54am

re: #258 slokat

"Its just a jump to the left (Cyberia)
and then a hop to the right!"
Rocky Whore Pitcher Show

262 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:12:26am

re: #259 Karridine

Rude? Racist? Moi? Perish the thought.

263 redc1c4  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:14:33am

was down in west LA today, and driving back up La Brea, i saw a new restaurant, complete with multiple signs announcing their grand opening.....

the house specialty?

"Corean Food"

/no joke

i'm gonna go back with a camera %-)

264 freetoken  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:15:00am

re: #197 LeePro

Joke received via email today:

Hey... nerd jokes... go well with nerd videos!

265 LeePro  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:15:55am

re: #252 gop_patriot

Yum! We had spaghetti with meat sauce here tonight. I was good and didn't actually eat any, though. Had fast food for lunch and didn't need the extra carbs... thought I was doing pretty well, then forgot and started drinking beer a while ago. LOL Oh well.

Sept. 24 is pretty close, I'm just glad that you're eating solid healthy foods again. :) Seriously, we are so going to the Commissary when you're feeling up to it.

I can hardly WAIT! ! !

266 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:16:09am

re: #260 redc1c4

God willing, I'm saving those for November....

267 Karridine  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:18:23am

re: #263 redc1c4

Oh, my! Maybe they're French, who write it Coree...

but I doubt it.
Dang.

268 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:20:15am

re: #264 freetoken

That was just too funny. Even though I failed Calculus in HS, I sill got all the jokes.

269 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:24:10am

re: #245 MrTunes

This is the only "Snowfall" I could find. LOL

It's not bad, though, if you like jazz.

270 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:25:20am

re: #269 Pvt Bin Jammin

duh, the link would be nice. LOL


Snowfall:

271 LeePro  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:28:09am

re: #264 freetoken

Hey... nerd jokes... go well with nerd videos!

That was hilarious!
In the late '90s I went back to school to finish up my Bachelor's (abandoned in 1965)... they made me take freshman math (2 f'ing semesters!). I was so afraid I'd fail, I studied almost 24/7 just hoping for a C. Got an A both semesters! And that including acing the Quadratic Formula!

272 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:29:00am

re: #263 redc1c4

Absolutely hilarious.....send the pic to Jay Leno.

273 gop_patriot  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:29:09am

re: #259 Karridine

Blue? No way. Now I know I need to scroll up. ;)

I'm great! 2:25am here in Arkansas. Doesn't smell like jasmine here, though, imagine that. LOL Just listening to some loud music on the headphones and feeling good. :)

274 LeePro  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:31:24am

2:30 people!

Past my pillow-time...

  ¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n

G'nite {Beloved Lizards}!

275 redc1c4  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:31:39am

re: #272 Pvt Bin Jammin

Absolutely hilarious.....send the pic to Jay Leno.

funny you should mention him: i saw him out driving an old (20's?) car last friday up in the NoHo area.

276 gop_patriot  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:33:23am

re: #262 BlueCanuck

Nevah. :) (((Blue))) Good to see you. Hope things are good with you!

re: #263 redc1c4

Hiya, red! And, that's hilarious. Definitely post those pics when you get them. I've always wondered about people who go to the trouble to open a business, then don't bother checking the grammar and spelling of their signs. There was one in our mall forever that said "Tuxedo's for rent". UGH!

277 gop_patriot  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:34:04am

re: #265 LeePro

I can hardly WAIT! ! !

Drooool. :)
Night, Lee! (((hugs)))

278 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:34:56am

re: #274 LeePro

Night {Lee} , weet dreams.

279 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:35:39am

re: #276 gop_patriot

Morning {gop_patriot}. Things going good. Just finding way too much too do.

280 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:37:19am

re: #275 redc1c4

That's fun! Seriously, you should send him the pic, that is if he's not off the air yet.

281 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:38:17am

re: #274 LeePro

'nite, Lee. 'weet dreams. I am using toothpicks myself.

282 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:48:08am

re: #201 gop_patriot

Oh no! I didn't know about that. My good friend just had hernia surgery, today in fact. Was a 4 hr. surgery... is that normal? She called me tonight, and is doing fine, hurting a bit, but pumped full of morphine.

I'll keep you on my prayer list. Keep us updated!

Mine was nearly six, and I know it was not normal. As much as I normally avoid using pain meds (degenerative spine and hip so constant chronic pain) I needed them for 3 weeks after. And the laxatives, oooof.

283 redc1c4  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:52:51am

i'm gonna go w*rk on the fruitcup and then hit the rack.........

L8r y'all!

284 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 12:59:09am

re: #283 redc1c4

Night red. Time to clean up after you again I see.

285 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:01:30am

Goodnight, Lizards. Leaving you with some more Tommy Emmanuel but with an extra treat:

286 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:07:04am

Night PBJ, thanks for the tunes.

287 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:20:37am

Got awfull quiet all the sudden.

288 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:22:28am
Arrested in 1980, Muhammad Abu Ali had been jailed for life after killing 20-year-old yeshiva student Joshua Saloma in 1980. He was later convicted of killing a Palestinian in jail whom he had accused of collaborating with Israel.
In addition to these two prisoners, designated as having "blood on their hands," an additional 197 Palestinians convicted of terrorism were released.


Its hard to believe that someone was in jail for 28 years just for killing two people and one of them a Jew.

Israel is becoming a brutal country.

/go back to sleep

289 gop_patriot  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:23:54am

re: #279 BlueCanuck

Glad to hear it... Too much to do? Are you at work or home?

I've got too much to do around my house. It's a disaster area. The kids have decided that it's just no fun to pick up after themselves. They've fallen off the wagon, room-cleaning wise. We're going to be working on that this week. ;)

/hope that made sense. I've had beer, and I'm tired. lol

290 gop_patriot  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:24:30am

Goodnight, red, and PBJ. Sleep well!

291 gop_patriot  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:25:32am

re: #288 ibmkeyboard

Do you have a link? Or was this discussed earlier and I missed it..?

292 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:25:49am

re: #289 gop_patriot

At work right now. By too much to do I mean I inadvertently picked up a new hobby. Making time for friends, relationships, business. . . . . . I just don't know where to stop sometimes, or when to stop.

293 Karridine  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:29:04am

I'm in & out... doing chores around the house, as Son 1 is home mos' ricky-tick!

BB in a While

294 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:40:02am

re: #291 gop_patriot

Do you have a link? Or was this discussed earlier and I missed it..?

sorry, my head was spinning and one of my eyes popped out.


here is the link.[Link: www.jpost.com...]

295 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:46:49am

It's sure not looking like the Russian's are planning on doing much other than thumbing-their-noses at members of the Atlantic alliance especially the 'old Europe' states and, of course, the US.

Mornin folks.

...and then we've got our pals--the treacherous bastards--the Turk's; who are not only going to make sure they've got the blades of their knives buried into our backs up-to-the-hilt, they're looking to get better leverage before starting to slowly twist.

Boy... only 4 hours into work and I'm already frothing at the mouth.

296 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:46:57am

dead thread

297 littleoldlady  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:48:24am

re: #295 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

aboo! :-)

Just wait. The Pakis haven't started yet...

/party time! WOO HOO!

298 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:48:24am

re: #295 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

One of those days when you know you should have had your rabies shots done right? :)

299 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:50:25am

re: #295 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

It's sure not looking like the Russian's are planning on doing much other than thumbing-their-noses at members of the Atlantic alliance especially the 'old Europe' states and, of course, the US.


morning.

Adinnerjabber over in Iran is grinning from ear to ear.

/but the price of oil didn't go up,
no telling what they will try/do next?

300 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:50:38am

re: #297 littleoldlady

Zimbabwe's still up shit creek without a paddle, but after what's been transpiring in Georgia, Israel and Pakistan lately, that would just come off as gratuitous dogpiling on my part....

301 Karridine  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:52:06am

re: #298 BlueCanuck

Life is a bitch!

/that bites, rabidly rapidly! :P

302 littleoldlady  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:52:21am

re: #300 Fenway_Nation

Fenway! :-)

Worldwide clamoring to be a royal pain in the butt...

/it doesn't get any better than this.

Say, I have an idea! Let's vote for Obama!

303 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:52:57am

re: #301 Karridine

Life is a bitch!

But at least there's fruitcup.

304 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:53:19am

re: #301 Karridine

Heh, yeah I looked at my schedule and figured the only thing I could cut back on if I really wanted to do that was sleep. :)

/Who needs it anyway, and that's what coffee is for anyway.

305 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:54:02am

re: #295 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

It's sure not looking like the Russian's are planning on doing much other than thumbing-their-noses at members of the Atlantic alliance especially the 'old Europe' states and, of course, the US.

Mornin folks.

...and then we've got our pals--the treacherous bastards--the Turk's; who are not only going to make sure they've got the blades of their knives buried into our backs up-to-the-hilt, they're looking to get better leverage before starting to slowly twist.

Boy... only 4 hours into work and I'm already frothing at the mouth.

Morning aboo! Frothing at the mouth is easy to do these days.

/Littleold show up with the fruitcup yet?

306 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:54:17am

re: #302 littleoldlady

Fenway! :-)

/it doesn't get any better than this.

Say, I have an idea! Let's vote for Obama!

World Shiite would hit the fan.

lol

307 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:55:37am

re: #302 littleoldlady

That makes me feel better. I bet Obama would take swift and decisive military action against the Ukraine and Poland for their beligerrent treatment of the Russians...

308 littleoldlady  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:56:09am

re: #305 galloping granny

I AM STANDING UP!

;-)

/Yes, I showed up.
//Fruitcup can't be too far behind...

309 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:56:48am

re: #308 littleoldlady

I AM STANDING UP!

;-)

/Yes, I showed up.
//Fruitcup can't be too far behind...

DROOOLING!

310 littleoldlady  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:56:53am

re: #307 Fenway_Nation

That makes me feel better. I bet Obama would take swift and decisive military action against the Ukraine and Poland for their beligerrent treatment of the Russians...

I believe you are right. :-/

311 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:57:21am

re: #307 Fenway_Nation

That makes me feel better. I bet Obama would take swift and decisive military action against the Ukraine and Poland for their beligerrent treatment of the Russians...

I don't think Obama manages to take swift and decisive action about anything. It takes more than a little time to consul 301 policy advisers.

312 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:57:29am

re: #297 littleoldlady

I'm keeping my yap shut on the Pakishits 'til Thursday.

Blue...they re-vaccinate me every morning, doesn't do a bit of good. :-)

313 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:57:49am
314 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:58:07am

re: #307 Fenway_Nation

That makes me feel better. I bet Obama would take swift and decisive military action against the Ukraine and Poland for their belligerent treatment of the Russians...


OBAMA SHALL COME!

sorry,
Obama shall come.

315 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:58:59am

re: #308 littleoldlady

I AM STANDING UP!

;-)

/Yes, I showed up.
//Fruitcup can't be too far behind...

Good morning Little. Sorry, did not see you up there.

316 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:59:08am
317 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:59:18am

re: #314 ibmkeyboard

OBAMA SHALL COME!

sorry,
Obama shall come.

That he would do quickly.

318 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:59:23am

re: #311 galloping granny


Didn't he promise to invade a Musharraf-lead Pakistan if elected president? Kind of a non-issue now, thanks to Musharraf- hopefully a non-issue in November thanks to McCain...

/begins storing saltwater taffy to pass out to lizards

319 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 1:59:42am
320 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:00:00am

Sure could go for some fruitcup right about now....

321 littleoldlady  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------->
Help yourselves!

322 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:00:10am

re: #312 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

I'm keeping my yap shut on the Pakishits 'til Thursday.

Blue...they re-vaccinate me every morning, doesn't do a bit of good. :-)

Why Thursday?

/Not that I'm not with you. I'm not so sure Mush leaving is a bad thing.

323 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:01:01am

re: #321 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------->
Help yourselves!

Thank you, {lol}!

324 littleoldlady  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:01:22am

re: #313 ploome hineni

I used to drool, now I twitch

Bwhahahaha!

ploomie! :-)

/hey wait a minute....why am I laughing?

325 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:01:32am

re: #318 Fenway_Nation

Didn't he promise to invade a Musharraf-lead Pakistan if elected president? Kind of a non-issue now, thanks to Musharraf- hopefully a non-issue in November thanks to McCain...

/begins storing saltwater taffy to pass out to lizards

Salt water taffy, popcorn, Dem convention sponsored by McCain for President - going to be one heck of a party.

326 littleoldlady  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:01:49am

Sharmuta! :-)

327 Karridine  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:02:15am

re: #304 BlueCanuck

Awk! Don't caffeine yourself into an early death, Blue! Diminishing returns and all that!

/1600 here, 4PM

328 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:02:28am
329 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:02:47am

re: #317 galloping granny

That he would do quickly.

re: #318 Fenway_Nation

Didn't he promise to invade a Musharraf-lead Pakistan if elected president? Kind of a non-issue now, thanks to Musharraf- hopefully a non-issue in November thanks to McCain...


Obama knew Musharraf would resign after his tough talk.

Obama is coming with open arms to save us all.

330 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:04:01am

re: #324 littleoldlady

Nervous reflex? I hear insanity is contagious, you get it from your kids.

/BTW, thanks for fruitcup.

331 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:04:36am

re: #321 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------->
Help yourselves!

move over,
sorry bout the drool,

don't get in on your blue pajamas/dress.

332 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:05:21am

Now that the Russians are acting like the bad guys some of us suspected them of being, does this mean that the screenwriting hacks in Hollywood will no longer be using generic Slavic villains in all their movies or TV shows? Maybe there will be a villain demographic shift to some ROPers or Arabs to avoid offending the Russians....

333 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:05:21am

re: #327 Karridine

I am not THAT dumb, went sleep deprived once. The hallucinations were nice and creepy. So I don't need to do that again. I do get enough sleep, and meter my coffee out for when I really need it.

/like work and start of the shift.

334 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:05:48am

re: #326 littleoldlady

The world might be going to hell in a hand basket, but at least we still have fruitcup. And linen napkins. *burp* 'Scuse me.

335 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:06:43am

re: #330 BlueCanuck

Nervous reflex? I hear insanity is contagious, you get it from your kids.

/BTW, thanks for fruitcup.

I thought nervous reflex was one of the side effects of red's fruitcup....?

336 littleoldlady  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:07:20am

BlueCanuck! :-)

ibm! :-)

Karridine! :-)

337 littleoldlady  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:09:00am

re: #335 Sharmuta

Sometimes red-enhanced fruitcup is the only way to get through the day...

/I love watching the Russians commit genocide.
//honest, I do
.
.
.
.
NOT.

338 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:09:29am

re: #335 Sharmuta

That's reflux. :)

339 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:09:33am

re: #335 Sharmuta

I thought nervous reflex was one of the side effects of red's fruitcup....?

Ahhh,
thick juice fruitcup, and

twitching feels good!

340 Karridine  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:09:56am

re: #333 BlueCanuck

Okay.

I've been there, and the 'creepy' sleep-deprived hallucinations are no fun!
(5 days, 4 nights snowed in atop our mountain on the Korean DMZ, and I simply fell asleep while twirling the equipment knobs and standing up!)

341 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:10:22am

re: #338 BlueCanuck

That's reflux. :)

LMAO!

342 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:10:50am

re: #337 littleoldlady

Well if the reports about the status of their equipment, gear, and troops is right, it might be more along the lines of suicide.

/if your enemy is making a bad mistake, or poor decision, don't interrupt them.

343 Karridine  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:11:29am

Okay, son's home, must take leave of this august company, this august August!

344 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:11:40am

I've got to tell you, I think there is another bombshell going to drop on Obama's head pretty quick here - besides his approval of infanticide. All of the records at the state level and the national level of the "Annenburg Challenge" where Obama served on the board with Ayers the Pentagon Bomber (people my age remember him well) are being sealed away from researchers.

Chickens are going to come home to roost on that one.

345 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:13:03am

re: #342 BlueCanuck

Well if the reports about the status of their equipment, gear, and troops is right, it might be more along the lines of suicide.

/if your enemy is making a bad mistake, or poor decision, don't interrupt them.

I have been saying that to certain folks around here for months as they screamed and yelled for McCain to engage.

346 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:13:09am

re: #337 littleoldlady

Awww- {littleoldlady}! President McCain will make them pay.

347 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:17:22am

re: #346 Sharmuta

Awww- {littleoldlady}! President McCain will make them pay.

From your typing fingers to G_d's ears!

348 littleoldlady  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:18:52am

re: #344 galloping granny

In the spirit of your post...my horrorscope today:

Help out where it is most needed and appreciated. Today is good for giving your time, as opposed to your goodwill or your money, to a volunteer effort. Get out of your ordinary thought patterns and help someone along.

This is me being generous and volunteering my sage [ahem! ;-) ] advice ...

Attention Democratic Party Leadership and Main Stream Media:

/we know you're reading LGF...

If I were you I would be HOPING that Obama loses the election. When all of the ultra radical connections your candidate is hiding comes out, the American people are going to feel snookered.

And they will NOT blame themselves!

349 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:19:11am

re: #337 littleoldlady

Obama will talk Putin to death.

350 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:21:15am

re: #349 Fenway_Nation

Obama will talk Putin to death.

I'm not so sure about that. He would have to interrupt his vacation. Kings don't do that.

351 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:21:18am

re: #348 littleoldlady

What did my horoscope say? Should I even go to the racetrack today?

352 littleoldlady  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:22:43am

re: #351 Fenway_Nation

You gonna tell me your sign or do I have to guess?

353 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:24:32am

Now this is interesting. A professor whose speciality is the Russian Revolution draws some pretty stunning comparisons between the tactics of the Bolsheviks and the tactics of Hamas. (And by extension, elsewhere.) Illuminating.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

354 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:26:30am

re: #352 littleoldlady

I take it that's your unique way of saying 'Hey Baby, what's your sign?'

You cougar, you.....

/Cancer

355 littleoldlady  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:28:27am

re: #354 Fenway_Nation

You are poised for a wild afternoon. You will shock yourself with what comes out of your mouth today. The sensibilities of other people are bound to be offended. Communication puts you in the driver’s seat.

Racetrack? Hell, yes! ;-)

356 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:29:44am

re: #355 littleoldlady

The sensibilities of other people are bound to be offended.

How is that different from any other afternoon?

357 akak  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:31:09am
The missile has a weight of 2 000 kg. Its warhead is 482 kg of conventional HE, fragmentation or nuclear. The minimal range is about 15 km, and the maximum range is 70 km, and Circular Error Probable or CEP is estimated to be about 150 m. The guidance system is inertial. The lethal radius of the conventional warhead is more than 200 m. The length of the missile is 6.4 m, its diameter - 0,65 m

Now that's a pullout Vlad!

nuclulear!

I'm Scarabed!

358 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:37:13am

re: #357 akak

Now that's a pullout Vlad!

nuclulear!

I'm Scarabed!

Where is the missile quote from?

359 sparrowlake  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:39:58am
360 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:40:10am

The Russians clearly have no intention of leaving Georgia. They have seized the port -
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

361 sparrowlake  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:42:46am

re: #360 galloping granny

The Russians clearly have no intention of leaving Georgia. They have seized the port -
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

How do you say "Kiss my ass, America" in Russian?

362 akak  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:44:13am

re: #360 galloping granny

The Russians clearly have no intention of leaving Georgia. They have seized the port -
[Link: online.wsj.com...]


Morning Galloping Granny!

I saw it on Fox, then wiki'd an SS 22.
"Anything such as that, or any other military equipment that was moved in would be in violation of this cease-fire and should be removed immediately," Pentagon Spokesman Bryan Whitman said. "The only forces that are permitted to remain under the cease fire agreement are the forces that were in there at the Aug. 6 time frame."

363 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:44:14am

re: #361 sparrowlake

How do you say "Kiss my ass, America" in Russian?

Поцелуй мой осел, Америка

But I have no idea how to pronounce it :)

364 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:45:46am

re: #362 akak

Morning Galloping Granny!

I saw it on Fox, then wiki'd an SS 22.
"Anything such as that, or any other military equipment that was moved in would be in violation of this cease-fire and should be removed immediately," Pentagon Spokesman Bryan Whitman said. "The only forces that are permitted to remain under the cease fire agreement are the forces that were in there at the Aug. 6 time frame."

Must be something like those Russian "peacekeepers" that seized the Georgian port of Poti this morning.

365 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:52:40am

Well...at least the Ukrainians have a pair.

366 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:52:57am

They are replaying their special on Obama from last night on Fox right now. Last night I turned it off - nothing else on now. It is surprisingly tough on him.

367 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:54:26am

re: #366 galloping granny

They are replaying their special on Obama from last night on Fox right now. Last night I turned it off - nothing else on now. It is surprisingly tough on him racist.

There...fixed that.

368 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:55:21am

re: #367 Fenway_Nation

There...fixed that.

Oh dear, yes. I forgot that it is unaccepatable to criticize HRH Obama the messiah because he is "black"

369 akak  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:56:41am

re: #367 Fenway_Nation

There...fixed that.

On Obama's part or against Obama?

370 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:57:30am

re: #368 galloping granny

You left out questioning his long-standing associations with shady charachters and hate-mongers like Akers, Wright and Rezko.

/might as well be pouring lighter fluid on a cross as I type this

371 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:58:36am

re: #369 akak


Against Obama, silly! Remember, he doesn't look like those other presidents on the dollar bills....

372 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:59:15am

re: #370 Fenway_Nation

You left out questioning his long-standing associations with shady charachters and hate-mongers like Akers, Wright and Rezko.

/might as well be pouring lighter fluid on a cross as I type this

Well, yes that too. Need a match?

373 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:00:55am

re: #371 Fenway_Nation

Against Obama, silly! Remember, he doesn't look like those other presidents on the dollar bills....

And you know, the funny thing is that while he is screaming that we are a bunch of racists, I can think of a half dozen or more black individuals that I would cheerfully vote for. Bet you can too. It isn't about "black" - it is about Obama. He just doesn't get it at all. But then he does seem to be more and more tone deaf by the day.

374 sparrowlake  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:00:59am

re: #363 galloping granny

Поцел уй мой осел, Америка
Peacefully yours,
Vlad P.

375 littleoldlady  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:01:09am

re: #366 galloping granny

Nuh. I thought they were throwing softballs. They left out the communist connection, for example. They did show his school records indicating "Islam" as his religion.

376 littleoldlady  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:02:10am

YIKES! Look at the time!

Good day, ALL!™

377 akak  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:03:59am

re: #371 Fenway_Nation

Against Obama, silly! Remember, he doesn't look like those other presidents on the dollar bills....


Only watched a couple of minutes, seemed like Obama was being the racist?

378 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:12:17am

Remember that book Jewel of Medina that Random House refused to publish last week in fear of the jihadi's? Not publishing it apparently is not enough.

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

379 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:22:54am

re: #378 galloping granny

I feel sorry for the authour of that novel. The one person to blame for this whole mess is the university professor who raised the "alarm" in the first place.

380 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:23:56am

up late (up early) I see.

381 opnion  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:34:39am

The newsies expect Obama to name his VP on Thursday.
I just hope that it is not Hillary & that she & a lot of her supporters remain bitter.
Oh, Good Morning!

382 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:35:27am

re: #379 BlueCanuck

I feel sorry for the authour of that novel. The one person to blame for this whole mess is the university professor who raised the "alarm" in the first place.

I agree. I wish she would release it by ebook. I would buy a copy.

383 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:37:26am

re: #381 opnion

The newsies expect Obama to name his VP on Thursday.
I just hope that it is not Hillary & that she & a lot of her supporters remain bitter.
Oh, Good Morning!

PUMA is not going to be mollified by a VP slot for Hillary. The VP is the "also ran" slot, the wall flower slot, the booby prize. For Obama to offer it to her would be a slap in the face.

384 opnion  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:38:12am

BHO will address a VFW convention today. He must feel that he is going behind enemy lines.

385 Tigger2005  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:38:36am

re: #378 galloping granny

Remember that book Jewel of Medina that Random House refused to publish last week in fear of the jihadi's? Not publishing it apparently is not enough.

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

I don't understand...just because ONE publisher refuses to publish the book, why is it dead? Random House is not the only publishing company on Earth. Can't she get the rights back and shop it elsewhere? Why not self-publish it?

386 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:38:38am

re: #382 galloping granny

Trouble is with e-books is that most of them are sold by most publishers. And to format it takes some time since it's done mostly through an HTML format. There is some software out there that can do it, like MobiPocket for one. Unless she can find some company willing to take a risk, this one might die on the shelf.

387 opnion  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:40:05am

re: #383 galloping granny

PUMA is not going to be mollified by a VP slot for Hillary. The VP is the "also ran" slot, the wall flower slot, the booby prize. For Obama to offer it to her would be a slap in the face.

Good. I want her supporters to feel really estranged from the Dem ticket. I want tham to take there anger over to McCain or stay home.

388 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:43:19am

re: #385 Tigger2005

I don't understand...just because ONE publisher refuses to publish the book, why is it dead? Random House is not the only publishing company on Earth. Can't she get the rights back and shop it elsewhere? Why not self-publish it?

I have no idea about the publishing game, though I do know that she had been given a $40K advance on that book a couple of years ago.

389 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:43:37am

re: #381 opnion

The newsies expect Obama to name his VP on Thursday.
I just hope that it is not Hillary & that she & a lot of her supporters remain bitter.
Oh, Good Morning!


I'm hoping for Kaine (his vast experince so complements Obama's) or Dodd (poster boy for Countrywide mortgage.)

We'll likele get boring: Bayh or Biden.

Morning all!

390 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:44:39am

re: #383 galloping granny

PUMA is not going to be mollified by a VP slot for Hillary. The VP is the "also ran" slot, the wall flower slot, the booby prize. For Obama to offer it to her would be a slap in the face.

What's PUMA?

391 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:47:05am

re: #390 Jim in Virginia

What's PUMA?

It is an organization of former Hillary supporters who are refusing to support Obama. Stands for Party Unity My Ass.

392 Tigger2005  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:48:03am

re: #364 galloping granny

Must be something like those Russian "peacekeepers" that seized the Georgian port of Poti this morning.

I did a cartoon once during the Bosnian conflict. The Serbs were moving to seize a certain town, (Gorazde) and the U.N. kept telling them "no" but not doing anything. In my cartoon, there's a motherly arm labeled "U.N.," an evil-looking kid labeled "Serbs," and a jar of cookies labeled "Gorazde Cookies."

The kid keeps moving to get himself some cookies...he has his hand on the lid, and the UN says, "NO cookies for you, young man!" Then the kid gets the lid off, on the UN pats him on the arm and says, "Now what did I tell you? NO cookies!" Then the kid gets the lid off and has his arm in the jar, and the UN slaps him lightly on the arm again and says, "If you take any cookies, you will be punished!" Finally you see the kid with an armful of cookies and his mouth stuffed with 2 or 3, and the UN says, "Oh, for heaven's sake! Very well, if you want the cookies, TAKE the cookies! But don't blame me if you've no appetite for supper!"

393 opnion  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:49:09am

re: #389 Jim in Virginia

I'm hoping for Kaine (his vast experince so complements Obama's) or Dodd (poster boy for Countrywide mortgage.)

We'll likele get boring: Bayh or Biden.

Morning all!

I'm betting Bayh. He is a safe pick & he can probably give Obama Indiana. The conventional wisdom is that he won't upstage the candidate. I think that by the time this is over though, a lot of Dems & independents will want to flip the ticket

394 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:51:02am

re: #385 Tigger2005

I think that since Random House has said thanks, but no thanks, it's going to be a lot harder to sell it to another company. Already the moheads are starting to scream about hardcore and comparing it to the Danish cartoon incident. How many big companies would be willing to stoke that furnace of rage just waiting to burst forth. If it's a smaller company? That's even worse. I wish her the best of luck, and I hope some companies will grow a pair. Unfortunately the only company I can think of that has one mostly sells science fiction and fantasy. Only series that they sell that doesn't fit the genre is the John Ringo Paladin of Shadows series.

395 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:54:17am

re: #392 Tigger2005

I did a cartoon once during the Bosnian conflict. . . . . . "Oh, for heaven's sake! Very well, if you want the cookies, TAKE the cookies! But don't blame me if you've no appetite for supper!"

ROFL! That is funny. I hear the Russians are actually wearing UN style blue helmets while pretending to be peacekeepers.

396 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:54:21am

Good morning all. Just a drive by for me this morning.

re: #388 galloping granny

I have no idea about the publishing game, though I do know that she had been given a $40K advance on that book a couple of years ago.

I worked for about 10 years in the bookselling business. Random House could certainly sell the publication rights back to the author or to another company, but chances are they have such a large investment into the book already, with advances and publication of the book, that the price they would ask would be prohibitive. The author likely could not afford it, and most publishers would shy away due to the cost and potential security issues. I am very disappointed in Random House for backing down on this. They are learning the same thing that so many others have already learned - give them an inch and they will want a mile.

397 opnion  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:55:01am

re: #394 BlueCanuck

I think that since Random House has said thanks, but no thanks, it's going to be a lot harder to sell it to another company. Already the moheads are starting to scream about hardcore and comparing it to the Danish cartoon incident. How many big companies would be willing to stoke that furnace of rage just waiting to burst forth. If it's a smaller company? That's even worse. I wish her the best of luck, and I hope some companies will grow a pair. Unfortunately the only company I can think of that has one mostly sells science fiction and fantasy. Only series that they sell that doesn't fit the genre is the John Ringo Paladin of Shadows series.

The entire situation is lunacy. A very anti-western "Religious " group calling the shots about free expression in the host country.
Any concession just emboldens the ROP & they scream for more.

398 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:58:14am

re: #396 Ford_Prefect

Good morning all. Just a drive by for me this morning.

I worked for about 10 years in the bookselling business. Random House could certainly sell the publication rights back to the author or to another company, but chances are they have such a large investment into the book already, with advances and publication of the book, that the price they would ask would be prohibitive. The author likely could not afford it, and most publishers would shy away due to the cost and potential security issues. I am very disappointed in Random House for backing down on this. They are learning the same thing that so many others have already learned - give them an inch and they will want a mile.

Seems to me that they really overestimate just how big that mile is! And unfortunately, when one of the biggest publishing houses caves like this, they just signed the death knell for Freedom of Speech.

399 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 3:59:14am

re: #397 opnion

The entire situation is lunacy. A very anti-western "Religious " group calling the shots about free expression in the host country.
Any concession just emboldens the ROP & they scream for more.

The only other possibility is that sometimes the paperback rights are purchased by a different publisher. If that is the case the book may still come out. but it will be a while as the hardcover publisher would have an exclusive for usually a year.

400 opnion  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:00:49am

re: #399 Ford_Prefect

The only other possibility is that sometimes the paperback rights are purchased by a different publisher. If that is the case the book may still come out. but it will be a while as the hardcover publisher would have an exclusive for usually a year.


This is a lot like the 'Satanic Verses' , With Rusdie.
Screaming & Fatwas, but it got published.
As a side that book is so boring.
Later.

401 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:01:53am

re: #398 galloping granny

Seems to me that they really overestimate just how big that mile is! And unfortunately, when one of the biggest publishing houses caves like this, they just signed the death knell for Freedom of Speech.

I don't know that I would go that far. It isn't like the government told them to pull the book. The publisher did that on their own. The fact that they have no guts doesn't mean that another publisher won't publish the next similar book.

402 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:03:13am

[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

Apparently Obama's attack on Corsi's book has backfired in a big way.

********

Did you guys see the nincompoop down in Florida who tried to use the Hurricane to wind surf? They're running the footage now and then on Fox. /Shaking head at stupidity. . . .

403 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:03:33am

re: #400 opnion

This is a lot like the 'Satanic Verses' , With Rusdie.
Screaming & Fatwas, but it got published.
As a side that book is so boring.
Later.

It is exactly like that. I was working in bookstores at the time. There was a lot of hand wringing but the book was published and the stores, mostly, sold it.

Well, gotta go. Later Lizards.

404 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:06:21am

re: #401 Ford_Prefect

I don't know that I would go that far. It isn't like the government told them to pull the book. The publisher did that on their own. The fact that they have no guts doesn't mean that another publisher won't publish the next similar book.

It is a huge misconception that Freedom of Speech is something "given" to us or regulated by the government. It is exactly the opposite - something tht is an inherent right, one that the government cannot touch. When we - individually, collectively, corporately - cave in to this kind of ludicrous demand then we are willingly abandoning our right to freedom of speech. There is no "publisher did it on their own."

405 yochanan  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:06:37am

re: #106 JHW

also mentions your enlistment date and religion and i think blood type.

406 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:16:06am

Mike Huckabee Goes To Jerusalem: Huckabee for POTUS! (dang, Mike for PM of Israel!)

Here is what he had to say:

While touring Governor Huckabee also had time to make statements and respond to questions from journalists.

Gov. Huckabee said he understood the need for a Palestinian state, but that it should not interfere with the Jewish one.

"There are many, many places where a homeland for the Palestinians could in fact take place that would be consistent with their roots," he said. "But there is only one place on earth where the Jewish people could have a homeland that is consistent with their roots."

He emphasized that the international community agreed to recognize clear, definitive boundaries of a Jewish homeland in Israel as early as 1919.

"We have a moral obligation to the Jewish people to honor the commitment that has been made through decades and decades of understanding that there is going to be a homeland for the Jewish people," he said.

"The question shouldn't be 'Do Arabs have a right to live in Jewish territory,'" said Gov. Huckabee, "but, 'Do Jews have a right to live in Jewish territory?'"

"To say that Jews can't live in Jerusalem is the equivalent of telling the Boston Red Sox they can't play in Fenway Park. Obviously, that would never go over very well on Beacon Hill."

Here is the rest of the article.

407 godfrey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:26:18am
408 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:30:41am

Well folks, it looks like my relief is here early for once. So stay scaly and fight the good fight.

409 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:31:29am

re: #402 galloping granny

[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

Apparently Obama's attack on Corsi's book has backfired in a big way.

********

Did you guys see the nincompoop down in Florida who tried to use the Hurricane to wind surf? They're running the footage now and then on Fox. /Shaking head at stupidity. . . .

People like that really piss me off. Simply because this person is an idiot it means that somebody's husband / father / wife / mother / brother / sister in air-sea rescue who is NOT an idiot will have to put his/her life on the line and risk orphaning their children to save some moron who, in all likelihood, deserves to be Darwinated.

410 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:32:54am

re: #406 WrathofG-d

Mike Huckabee Goes To Jerusalem: Huckabee for POTUS! (dang, Mike for PM of Israel!)

Here is what he had to say:

Here is the rest of the article.

Hmmmmm - lots and lots of pictures too. What do we think about Huckabee for VP?

411 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:35:06am

re: #409 CIA Reject

People like that really piss me off. Simply because this person is an idiot it means that somebody's husband / father / wife / mother / brother / sister in air-sea rescue who is NOT an idiot will have to put his/her life on the line and risk orphaning their children to save some moron who, in all likelihood, deserves to be Darwinated.

I agree. Some people don't have the common sense to pour piss out of their own boots. Really makes you wonder where on earth their two functional brain cells connect - or if they even do. Luckily the hurricane was not in full force and the idiot slammed into a building before coming to a halt.

412 godfrey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:37:26am

re: #409 CIA Reject

If the surfer chose to go out there like an idiot, in what sense is a rescuer trying to "save" him? Adults are responsible for their own actions.

413 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:37:44am

re: #410 galloping granny

I will vote for anyone that states that the peaceful-secure "palestinian" state should be in Saudi Arabia (or any of the other 20 something Arab or Muslim countries).

It shows a clarity of thought, and desire to defeat Islamic Emperialism and Jihadism.

All others are morally, factually, and historically confused.

414 godfrey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:38:36am

Palestine already exists. It's called "Jordan."

415 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:39:03am

re: #412 godfrey

If the surfer chose to go out there like an idiot, in what sense is a rescuer trying to "save" him? Adults are responsible for their own actions.

Unfortunately sometimes, here in the US first responders don't have the option of saying "you stupid idiot. You did this to yourself. Lay there and rot." They are required by law to go attempt to bail the idiot out, save his sorry ass.

416 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:42:59am

re: #407 godfrey

Since I have seen two Tom Waits videos on this thread.

From Wiki about Waits (whom I adore)...

Waits has a distinctive voice, described by critic Daniel Durchholz as sounding "like it was soaked in a vat of bourbon, left hanging in the smokehouse for a few months, and then taken outside and run over with a car."[

Tom Waits is the best of his genre (IMHO).

417 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:44:24am

re: #412 godfrey

If the surfer chose to go out there like an idiot, in what sense is a rescuer trying to "save" him? Adults are responsible for their own actions.

It sounds fine to say that "adults are responsible for their own actions", and in theory they are, but we live in an imperfect world and that is why rescue and emergency personnel are pledged to respond to all those in distress without regard to how they got there- that's for the insurance adjusters to determine after everybody is out of danger.

418 godfrey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:45:35am

re: #415 galloping granny

I did not know that. But even then, how is the first responder responsible? He or she isn't responsible if a call for help is fake. In this case, isn't it just as fake? The surfer didn't call for help -- or did he? If not, how is the first responder responsible?

419 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:50:54am

re: #411 galloping granny

I agree. Some people don't have the common sense to pour piss out of their own boots. Really makes you wonder where on earth their two functional brain cells connect - or if they even do. Luckily the hurricane was not in full force and the idiot slammed into a building before coming to a halt.

Yeah, and the paramedics who responded to scrape his sorry ass off the building were unavailable to help people who might have needed help through no fault of their own- been there, done that, got the T Shirt.

At least ambulances take fewer tax dollars to run than helicopters and boats do.

/Oh and I almost forgot - Good Morning Granny, Godfrey, and Everybody Else!

420 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:53:17am

re: #418 godfrey

I did not know that. But even then, how is the first responder responsible? He or she isn't responsible if a call for help is fake. In this case, isn't it just as fake? The surfer didn't call for help -- or did he? If not, how is the first responder responsible?

First responders are required to go scrape up the roadkill no matter how it got there or whose fault it is there.

421 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:53:37am

re: #419 CIA Reject

Morning CIA. How's things?

422 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:56:37am

re: #418 godfrey

I did not know that. But even then, how is the first responder responsible? He or she isn't responsible if a call for help is fake. In this case, isn't it just as fake? The surfer didn't call for help -- or did he? If not, how is the first responder responsible?

I think we've got two senses of the word "responsible" here. In the case of a false alarm the responsibility for turning in the alarm is that of the person who turned it in. In the case of responding to an alarm, well that is the responsibility of the first responders. And the reason it is the first responder's responsibility is is because when they gave you that badge you raised your hand and said that you would.

You gave your word.

Many good men and women have died because they gave their word that they would come when somebody called for help.

423 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:58:45am

re: #421 galloping granny

Morning CIA. How's things?

'Mornin Granny- things are good here, nothing like a good early morning rant to get the blood flowing. Hows by you?

424 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:08:13am

re: #423 CIA Reject

'Mornin Granny- things are good here, nothing like a good early morning rant to get the blood flowing. Hows by you?

Things are all good here.

425 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:13:52am

re: #407 godfrey

Good morning lizards

Tom Waits hits on a chick at a party

Bestiality this early in the morning?

426 opnion  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:17:35am

re: #417 CIA Reject

It sounds fine to say that "adults are responsible for their own actions", and in theory they are, but we live in an imperfect world and that is why rescue and emergency personnel are pledged to respond to all those in distress without regard to how they got there- that's for the insurance adjusters to determine after everybody is out of danger.

That's exactly right. The guy was very foolish & really set our evolution back, but he still rates a rescue.

427 doriangrey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:19:25am

Good morning Lizards.....

428 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:23:54am

re: #426 opnion

That's exactly right. The guy was very foolish & really set our evolution back, but he still rates a rescue.

I think you mean that he set our evolution forward a bit by helping to wipe out the continued propagation of the really f'ing stupid gene.

429 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:24:11am

re: #427 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards.....

Morning Doriangrey

430 lori lane  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:26:02am

Good morning, all dear Lizards!

Did anyone sign up to get the All Important Text Message from Obama?

431 opnion  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:27:36am

re: #428 galloping granny

I think you mean that he set our evolution forward a bit by helping to wipe out the continued propagation of the really f'ing stupid gene.

Ya know, that is a much more positive way to look at it. I nominate him for the Darwin Award!

432 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:29:00am

Good Morning Lizards..
How is everyone this fine day?
Here is your cup of Java Dorian...French roast this morning..mmmm

433 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:29:58am

re: #430 lori lane

Good morning, all dear Lizards!

Did anyone sign up to get the All Important Text Message from Obama?

You mean give him my cell phone number so I can be pestered endlessly with requests to donate to his campaign? :-)

No.

434 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:29:59am

You know, yesterday the Russians destroyed the Georgian port at Poti and sunk one of their coastguard boats. Looking at this link at the top that the Russian Baltic Fleet is approaching Sevastopol and the full on NATO special meeting (I cannot remember there ever being one of those before) I think I will go fill the tank and lay in some extra staples this morning.

435 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:31:13am

re: #431 opnion

Ya know, that is a much more positive way to look at it. I nominate him for the Darwin Award!

Did he actually, ah, "qualify" for a Darwin?

436 lori lane  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:32:32am

re: #433 CIA Reject

You mean give him my cell phone number so I can be pestered endlessly with requests to donate to his campaign? :-) No.

Good point. I'd have to block the future ones. :) But then, I don't get many text messages so it would make my life more exciting. Heh.

437 lori lane  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:33:08am

re: #432 HoosierHoops

{HH} Morning up there! :)

438 opnion  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:33:40am

re: #435 CIA Reject

Did he actually, ah, "qualify" for a Darwin?

Actually, they say he is critical, not dead. You can still get an honorable mention & be alive. I do believe that you have to successfully kill yourself to win though.

439 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:38:05am

You know, Obama's Invesco field tickets look like the image was taken directly from this picture of his good friend and campaign contributor, Pentagon bomber and "former" Weatherman Bill Ayers -
[Link: therealbarackobama.wordpress.com...]

440 doriangrey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:38:53am

re: #432 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards..
How is everyone this fine day?
Here is your cup of Java Dorian...French roast this morning..mmmm

Thank you hoops.... and a good morning to you as well...

441 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:39:29am

re: #438 opnion

Actually, they say he is critical, not dead. You can still get an honorable mention & be alive. I do believe that you have to successfully kill yourself to win though.

Yes, I think the rules are that you have to be dead and you can't leave behind any children. It's a terrible commentary on humanity that something that awful can be conceived as humor, but after seeing what some people do to themselves in the name of- well nothing actually- you can see how folks could think it was humorous.

I don't think it's funny though.

Not much anyway...

442 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:40:53am

re: #437 lori lane

{HH} Morning up there! :)


good morning Lori..Good to see you

443 opnion  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:42:48am

re: #441 CIA Reject

Yes, I think the rules are that you have to be dead and you can't leave behind any children. It's a terrible commentary on humanity that something that awful can be conceived as humor, but after seeing what some people do to themselves in the name of- well nothing actually- you can see how folks could think it was humorous.

I don't think it's funny though.

Not much anyway...

I kind of see your point, but it is like watching Borat. You know you shouldn't laugh, but damn, it's just funny.

444 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:43:26am

re: #442 HoosierHoops

good morning Lori..Good to see you

You can SEE us? OHMYGOD - and I am in my very worst jammies too! I am so horribly embarrassed.

445 rlevitin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:43:35am

re: #28 Racer X

I'm voting democrat because they say things that make me feel good about myself.

It's funny -- I'd vote for a conservative cause what conservatives say make ME feel good about myself...

Hmm...

446 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:44:46am

re: #443 opnion

I kind of see your point, but it is like watching Borat. You know you shouldn't laugh, but damn, it's just funny.

EXACTLY! Good analogy!

447 opnion  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:45:55am

re: #446 CIA Reject

EXACTLY! Good analogy!

Yeah, dark humor, but still humor.

448 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:46:40am

re: #443 opnion

I kind of see your point, but it is like watching Borat. You know you shouldn't laugh, but damn, it's just funny.

I was reading something yesterday about the guy that came up with the idea of Archie Bunker back in the 70's. Archie was supposed to be a caricature of everything the left hates, so he was very surprised when so very many people identified with Archie most.

449 rlevitin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:47:48am

re: #443 opnion

I kind of see your point, but it is like watching Borat. You know you shouldn't laugh, but damn, it's just funny.

I'd say it's more of a... "I have to laugh cause if I don't, I'll likely cry at the sight of all this stupidity"

450 doriangrey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:48:27am

re: #444 galloping granny

You can SEE us? OHMYGOD - and I am in my very worst jammies too! I am so horribly embarrassed.

Oh come on granny, those smurf jammies are sooo cute.... ;)

452 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:53:24am

re: #448 galloping granny

I was reading something yesterday about the guy that came up with the idea of Archie Bunker back in the 70's. Archie was supposed to be a caricature of everything the left hates, so he was very surprised when so very many people identified with Archie most.

You have to admit, Archie's approach to solving aircraft hi-jacking would've prevented 9/11.

Pass out the pistols when everybody gets on board...

Which is why I think we shouldn't have to go through metal detectors when we get ON to airliners- we should go through the metal detectors when we get OFF, and the airlines should safety-seal fully loaded Browning Hi-Power pistols to the back of every seat!

453 Nevergiveup  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:53:26am

A premature baby who "came back to life" Monday five hours after she was declared dead and taken to the morgue died early Tuesday morning.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

454 doriangrey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:53:52am

re: #448 galloping granny

I was reading something yesterday about the guy that came up with the idea of Archie Bunker back in the 70's. Archie was supposed to be a caricature of everything the left hates, so he was very surprised when so very many people identified with Archie most.

ROTFLMAO. I think Archie resonated so well with the American people because in spite of being such a grumpy old geezer Archie was a genuinely caring and decent person, and an enormous number of Americans had a uncle Archie Bunker in their family.

455 Nevergiveup  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:55:25am

re: #452 CIA Reject

You have to admit, Archie's approach to solving aircraft hi-jacking would've prevented 9/11.

Pass out the pistols when everybody gets on board...

Which is why I think we shouldn't have to go through metal detectors when we get ON to airliners- we should go through the metal detectors when we get OFF, and the airlines should safety-seal fully loaded Browning Hi-Power pistols to the back of every seat!

Ordinarily I would agree with this, being to the right of Genghis Khan on most things, but with the Airlines cutting back on Food and Drink, this could be a problem.

456 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:56:13am

re: #454 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO. I think Archie resonated so well with the American people because in spite of being such a grumpy old geezer Archie was a genuinely caring and decent person, and an enormous number of Americans had a uncle Archie Bunker in their family.

Including me. Spitting image of my Dad, who is indeed a brilliant man and a wonderful person but sometimes you just have to laugh so you don't cry. I wonder if they have Archie on DVD yet?

457 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:57:17am

re: #455 Nevergiveup

Ordinarily I would agree with this, being to the right of Genghis Khan on most things, but with the Airlines cutting back on Food and Drink, this could be a problem.

How the heck can you cut back on half a can of soda and a 2 inch square package of pretzels?

458 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:57:30am

re: #455 Nevergiveup

Ordinarily I would agree with this, being to the right of Genghis Khan on most things, but with the Airlines cutting back on Food and Drink, this could be a problem.

Sadly that's true...

459 doriangrey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:57:51am

re: #452 CIA Reject

You have to admit, Archie's approach to solving aircraft hi-jacking would've prevented 9/11.

Pass out the pistols when everybody gets on board...

Which is why I think we shouldn't have to go through metal detectors when we get ON to airliners- we should go through the metal detectors when we get OFF, and the airlines should safety-seal fully loaded Browning Hi-Power pistols to the back of every seat!

For some reason that idea reminds me of the ending of this video.... Well worth watching....

460 rlevitin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:58:07am

re: #455 Nevergiveup

Ordinarily I would agree with this, being to the right of Genghis Khan on most things, but with the Airlines cutting back on Food and Drink, this could be a problem.

Can't be that much more expensive than paying the salaries of those Air Marshalls on every flight.

461 Ojoe  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 5:58:49am

re: #457 galloping granny

Well, no food or drink at all.

cuts down on bathroom use as well & that improves security too.

462 Nevergiveup  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:00:03am

re: #460 rlevitin

Can't be that much more expensive than paying the salaries of those Air Marshalls on every flight.

I was flying on orders in uniform last month, I would have gladly carried a side arm if asked!

463 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:00:31am

Good morning all y'all - from a gorgeous (68 degrees going up to 90 degrees), bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

464 doriangrey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:01:13am

re: #462 Nevergiveup

I was flying on orders in uniform last month, I would have gladly carried a side arm if asked!

Oh no.... we cant have that... no scary military persons with genuine firearms on airplanes.... /s

465 doriangrey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:02:02am

re: #463 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a gorgeous (68 degrees going up to 90 degrees), bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

Good morning realwest, doing ok, got a dentist appointment tomorrow, how about yourself?

466 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:02:12am

G'morning all. The newly created motor mouth is back.

Hope you're all rested:-)

nuther day, nuther penny

467 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:02:38am

re: #434 galloping granny

You know, yesterday the Russians destroyed the Georgian port at Poti and sunk one of their coastguard boats. Looking at this link at the top that the Russian Baltic Fleet is approaching Sevastopol and the full on NATO special meeting (I cannot remember there ever being one of those before) I think I will go fill the tank and lay in some extra staples this morning.

Baltic Fleet? Not likely.

468 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:02:53am

While I know we covered this topic on the prior thread, some interesting news out of Georgia:

Russian military unit leaves Georgian city

GORI, Georgia (Reuters) - A column of Russian tanks and armoured vehicles left the Georgian city of Gori on Tuesday in what Russian officials said was the start of the pull-back demanded by the West.

A Reuters reporter saw four armoured personnel carriers and up to three tanks start up their engines and move out of Gori, which Russian forces had occupied this month in a conflict over Georgia's breakaway South Ossetia region.

The move followed a NATO call for Russia to respect a peace deal with Georgia and pull out its troops, although alliance members were cool on a U.S. demand that NATO consider scaling back ties with Moscow.
"This is one of the first units to be pulled out," said an official from Russia's foreign ministry, which arranged for reporters to watch the column leave. The unit's commander said they were heading for the Russian city of Vladikavkaz.

It was not immediately clear if other Russian units were also pulling out of their positions inside Georgia. [emphasis added, realwest]
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

469 Quilly Mammoth  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:03:59am

My wife says you have good taste in music. She watched the video clip for the Tommy Emmanuel song and said it brought back fond memories of a dinner concert in the Adelaide Hills in South Australia when she had the chance to watch him perform. She still has the autographed t-shirt, although it's beginning to show it's age.

470 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:04:19am

re: #467 lifeofthemind

Baltic Fleet? Not likely.

Hey, what do you expect? Little's fruitcup was a long time ago and I have found myself too lazy to make coffee and drink more than one cup of it for more than three weeks now.

My apologies :)

471 rlevitin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:04:43am

re: #468 realwest

While I know we covered this topic on the prior thread, some interesting news out of Georgia:

Russian military unit leaves Georgian city

GORI, Georgia (Reuters) - A column of Russian tanks and armoured vehicles left the Georgian city of Gori on Tuesday in what Russian officials said was the start of the pull-back demanded by the West.

A Reuters reporter saw four armoured personnel carriers and up to three tanks start up their engines and move out of Gori, which Russian forces had occupied this month in a conflict over Georgia's breakaway South Ossetia region.

The move followed a NATO call for Russia to respect a peace deal with Georgia and pull out its troops, although alliance members were cool on a U.S. demand that NATO consider scaling back ties with Moscow.
"This is one of the first units to be pulled out," said an official from Russia's foreign ministry, which arranged for reporters to watch the column leave. The unit's commander said they were heading for the Russian city of Vladikavkaz.

It was not immediately clear if other Russian units were also pulling out of their positions inside Georgia. [emphasis added, realwest]
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Hmmm...

472 rlevitin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:05:00am

(I adjusted the emphasis)

473 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:05:07am

re: #465 doriangrey
Hi dorian - I'm doing ok, I guess. What's your dental appointment for (I mean are you in pain or are you one of those pain-in-the-ass people who actually get their teeth cleaned every 6 months)?

474 Nevergiveup  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:05:25am

Iran preparing to build more nuclear power plants
Head of state-owned nuclear energy production company says signed agreements with other domestic firms to find locations to build new nuclear power plants within 13 months

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

I guess there are no Democrats in the Iranian Parliament?

475 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:05:56am

re: #462 Nevergiveup

I was flying on orders in uniform last month, I would have gladly carried a side arm if asked!

The safest I ever felt on an airliner was when I was on a cross-country flight with about fifty U. S. Marines who were returning to San Diego from leave. They were all unarmed, but I remember just hoping that some jihadi wannabee would try something. There wouldn't have been enough of him left to scrape into a thimble...

476 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:06:07am

re: #470 galloping granny

Hey, what do you expect? Little's fruitcup was a long time ago and I have found myself too lazy to make coffee and drink more than one cup of it for more than three weeks now.

My apologies :)

You just talked me into getting food. Let's see what the Ukrainians do. rtiab

477 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:06:49am

re: #468 realwest

While I know we covered this topic on the prior thread, some interesting news out of Georgia:

Russian military unit leaves Georgian city

GORI, Georgia (Reuters) - A column of Russian tanks and armoured vehicles left the Georgian city of Gori on Tuesday in what Russian officials said was the start of the pull-back demanded by the West.

A Reuters reporter saw four armoured personnel carriers and up to three tanks start up their engines and move out of Gori, which Russian forces had occupied this month in a conflict over Georgia's breakaway South Ossetia region.

The move followed a NATO call for Russia to respect a peace deal with Georgia and pull out its troops, although alliance members were cool on a U.S. demand that NATO consider scaling back ties with Moscow.
"This is one of the first units to be pulled out," said an official from Russia's foreign ministry, which arranged for reporters to watch the column leave. The unit's commander said they were heading for the Russian city of Vladikavkaz.

It was not immediately clear if other Russian units were also pulling out of their positions inside Georgia. [emphasis added, realwest]
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Don't be too enthusiastic realwest. They roled into Poti (the port city of Georgia, might have spelled it wrong) and destroyed the port early this morning, blew up a coast guard ship and took the Georgian coastguardsmen prisioners. All the while wearing blue peace keeper helmets.

That port, BTW, was scheduled for a huge upgrade.

478 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:08:32am

re: #472 rlevitin I noticed! Woulda preferred you're taking out the emphasis added, realwest, though.
Yeah, it could just be a PR stunt, but I thought the line I bolded was more important, cause I don't ever expect Russia to pull very many troops out of Georgia and I don't expect Georgia to regain it's democratic status UNLESS NATO or the US steps up to the plate here.

479 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:10:28am

re: #477 galloping granny Good morning galloping granny - did my post seem enthusiastic? I'm gonna have to re-write it if that's the case.

480 lori lane  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:11:16am

re: #463 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a gorgeous (68 degrees going up to 90 degrees), bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

Hey {RW}. Everything is fine here in Indiana. Sunny and lookin' at low 80's, I think.

481 razorbacker  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:11:35am

I've been over at Glenn's Joint, peeping through the windows in the interweb tubes, and I ran across this little slice of heaven...Childhood's end..

It occurs to me that I might need to make an entry to Razorbacker's Law...

Any society where a greater percentage of children have a television in their bedrooms than two involved parents in their lives is, by definition, a society in decline.

And it doesn't matter whether the TV is cathode ray tube, LCD, or HD plasma screen.

482 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:12:13am

re: #479 realwest

Good morning galloping granny - did my post seem enthusiastic? I'm gonna have to re-write it if that's the case.

No, your post was fine. I was just warning you not to get too enthusiastic that the Russians are actually leaving or even going to. I don't think they have any intention of ever leaving and the only way they are going to is if they are forced.

483 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:12:32am

re: #480 lori lane Hey there {ll} glad to hear everythings going so well!

484 Nevergiveup  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:12:51am

re: #478 realwest

I noticed! Woulda preferred you're taking out the emphasis added, realwest, though.
Yeah, it could just be a PR stunt, but I thought the line I bolded was more important, cause I don't ever expect Russia to pull very many troops out of Georgia and I don't expect Georgia to regain it's democratic status UNLESS NATO or the US steps up to the plate here.

The Ruskie bear is systematically destroying as much of the Georgian Military infrastructure as it can and also trying to decimate their economical base, then they will withdraw to predetermined fortified lines they are in the process of building. Their withdrawals are not magnanimous. And our European partners in "NATO?" are dithering?

485 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:12:57am

OT


Mornin. Realwest--- Remember reading about your teefy problems, Dorian guy reminded me.
Sure hope that you're getting some relief.

I'm down to 3 uppers, (with a few stubbs) and 7 lowers (all in front)

Boozing and not eating or visiting the DDS didn't seem to have much effect
on my'physicalness' (sic), but after 16 0r 17 years of not drinking, They all went to hell. pieces in a handbag.

So, I can relate to the kind of pain involved. (Still have some rough times with mine, no real chance of repairing mine i'm 'fraid.)

486 Nevergiveup  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:14:18am

re: #485 Dizzy26

OT


Mornin. Realwest--- Remember reading about your teefy problems, Dorian guy reminded me.
Sure hope that you're getting some relief.

I'm down to 3 uppers, (with a few stubbs) and 7 lowers (all in front)

Boozing and not eating or visiting the DDS didn't seem to have much effect
on my'physicalness' (sic), but after 16 0r 17 years of not drinking, They all went to hell. pieces in a handbag.

So, I can relate to the kind of pain involved. (Still have some rough times with mine, no real chance of repairing mine i'm 'fraid.)

IMPLANTS! Just saying.

487 rlevitin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:14:40am

re: #478 realwest

I noticed! Woulda preferred you're taking out the emphasis added, realwest, though.
Yeah, it could just be a PR stunt, but I thought the line I bolded was more important, cause I don't ever expect Russia to pull very many troops out of Georgia and I don't expect Georgia to regain it's democratic status UNLESS NATO or the US steps up to the plate here.

Oh, sorry, I didn't even notice your emphasis tag... my apologies.

(I might steal the idea in the future, if I can remember to)

and yes, I agree with your point, I just wanted to point out the possibility of PR stunt, although I think with the number of media personnel in Gori, it'd be hard to hide the fact that you hadn't actually pulled out.

488 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:14:56am

Don't worry folks, Nato springs into action.

PR/CP (2008)104
19 August 2008

Meeting of the North Atlantic Council at the level of Foreign Ministers held at NATO Headquarters, Brussels,

On 19 August 2008

Statement

The North Atlantic Council met in special Ministerial session on 19 August 2008, expressed its grave concern over the situation in Georgia and discussed its wider implications for Euro‑Atlantic stability and security. A peaceful and lasting solution to the conflict in Georgia must be based on full respect for the principles of Georgia’s independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity recognised by international law and UN Security Council resolutions. We deplore all loss of life, civilian casualties, and damage to civilian infrastructure that has resulted from the conflict. We are assisting humanitarian relief efforts. We met with the Chairman‑in‑Office of the OSCE, Finnish Minister of Foreign Affairs Mr. Alexander Stubb, to discuss the key issues which he believed needed to be addressed.

We welcome the agreement reached and signed by Georgia and Russia, through the diplomatic efforts of the European Union, the OSCE and the US, to end the hostilities and to bring about a political solution to the conflict. We stand fully behind these efforts. We stress the urgency of swift, complete, and good faith implementation of the agreement, including a new international mechanism to monitor respect for these engagements. Military action must cease definitively and military forces must return to their positions held prior to the outbreak of hostilities. Fully international discussions must begin on the modalities for security and stability in Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Economic activity in Georgia, including international aviation and shipping, must not be hindered.

We are gravely concerned by the humanitarian situation. Allied governments are working together, and in concert with international organisations and others in the international community, to ensure that the civilian populations affected by the conflict have the assistance they need to meet immediate and ongoing humanitarian needs. We call on all parties, in accordance with their obligations under international humanitarian law, to ensure access for international humanitarian relief efforts to all affected populations.

We have also agreed today to support Georgia, upon its request, in a number of areas. In addition, we have agreed to task the North Atlantic Council in Permanent Session to develop with Georgia rapidly the modalities for a NATO‑Georgia Commission. This Commission will supervise the process set in hand at Bucharest, including the measures of support agreed at today’s meeting. These measures are intended to assist Georgia, a valued and long‑standing Partner of NATO, to assess the damage caused by the military action and to help restore critical services necessary for normal public life and economic activity. Georgia's recovery, security and stability are important to the Alliance. NATO will continue to cooperate with Georgia in the framework of the Partnership for Peace and Georgia’s Individual Partnership Action Plan with NATO, and will review any additional Georgian requests for assistance. We also welcomed the fact that a number of our governments have indicated that they will actively support measures to help the economic reconstruction of Georgia.

The conflict between Georgia and Russia has compromised regional stability and security. We deeply deplore the use of force in the conflict between Georgia and Russia. We reiterate that there is no military solution to the unresolved conflicts. We remind all parties that peaceful conflict resolution is a key principle of the Partnership for Peace Framework Document.

(Part 2 to follow)

489 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:16:58am

re: #481 razorbacker
Good morning razorbacker! Uh, respectfully, your comment on TV's is NOTHING compared to this bit from your link:
"More than four out of ten British children are born out of wedlock; the unions of which they are the issue are notoriously unstable. Even marriage has lost much of its meaning. In a post-religious society, it is no longer a sacrament. The government has ensured that marriage brings no fiscal advantages and, indeed, for those at the lower end of the social scale, that it has only disadvantages. Easy divorce means that a quarter of all marriages break up within a decade."
That says a helluva lot more to me than how many TV's each family has.
As I've said before folks, stick a fork in GB, they're done.

490 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:17:03am

(part 2 of 2)

We remain concerned by Russia's actions during this crisis and remind Russia of its responsibility for maintaining security and order in the areas where it exercises control, especially in light of continuing reports of Russia’s deliberate destruction of civilian infrastructure. Russian military action has been disproportionate and inconsistent with its peacekeeping role, as well as incompatible with the principles of peaceful conflict resolution set out in the Helsinki Final Act, the NATO‑Russia Founding Act and the Rome Declaration. We call on Russia to take immediate action to withdraw its troops from the areas it is supposed to leave under the six‑principle agreement signed by President Saakashvili and President Medvedev[1]. The Alliance is considering seriously the implications of Russia’s actions for the NATO‑Russia relationship. In 2002, we established the NATO‑Russia Council, a framework for discussions with Russia, including on issues that divide the Alliance and Russia. We have determined that we cannot continue with business as usual. We call on Moscow to demonstrate – both in word and deed – its continued commitment to the principles upon which we agreed to base our relationship.

We reaffirmed our commitment to the decisions taken by Heads of State and Government at the Bucharest Summit in April 2008, including those regarding Georgia’s Euro‑Atlantic aspirations, and we will continue our intensive engagement with Georgia to address in December the questions pertaining to its Membership Action Plan application, taking into account developments until that time.

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------

[1] As complemented by President Sarkozy’s letter dated 16 August 2008 and subsequent correspondence on this issue.

End of mail

There now, everybody feel better?

Off to take care of four footed friend.

491 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:19:09am

re: #454 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO. I think Archie resonated so well with the American people because in spite of being such a grumpy old geezer Archie was a genuinely caring and decent person, and an enormous number of Americans had a uncle Archie Bunker in their family.

Yep, I think you're right on with the cause/effect!

Good on ya.. Had a beer drinking, pair-bowling uncle 'Rog' real close to Archie, ('Cept His last name was Brooks, and he bowled in North Tonawanda and Buffalo, where every friend of his had names that ended with ski, or sky:-)

492 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:19:34am

re: #487 rlevitin
Goodmorning all!
Seems the Russians NEED to ride ON the tanks....
since they are full of plunder!
If the reports are true....?
Leave nothing of use in they're wake!
Hope it's not true , but it sounds about par!

493 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:22:20am

re: #490 lifeofthemind
Woulda felt better if you'd given a summary and a link rather than take up so much of Charles' bandwidth.

494 jorline  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:23:47am

Good morning lizards from rainy south TX.

495 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:23:57am

re: #483 realwest

What's up RealWest? How are you doing today?

496 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:24:28am

re: #494 jorline Good morning my friend! How are you doing and feeling today?

497 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:25:09am

re: #494 jorline

Good morning lizards from rainy south TX.

Hey Jorline..hows it going today?
All that beach and so little sun..

498 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:25:10am

re: #495 HoosierHoops
Hey, good morning HH! I'm doing ok, thanks, how's about yourself?

499 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:25:20am

BBIAM.

500 jorline  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:25:43am

re: #496 realwest

Good morning my friend! How are you doing and feeling today?

Hey RW...better this morning, thanks and you? It was a late one last night.

501 razorbacker  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:25:56am

re: #489 realwest

Mornin' realwest,

My mind keeps returning to that famous study during the '60s (though it can't have been too famous since I'm drawing a temporary blank on the name) of black family life in the US.

It made a splash for a while, and was generally reviled and debunked. But by almost every measure the larger society as a whole now mirrors or is actually worse than the numbers then quoted for black society.

*it's right on the tip of my tongue. I hate it when that happens*

502 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:26:50am

re: #498 realwest

Hey, good morning HH! I'm doing ok, thanks, how's about yourself?

Feeling wonderful..had my coffee this morning and ready to go! ( a tad jittery) :)

503 jorline  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:27:15am

Good morning HH, dorian, granny and lori.

504 Nevergiveup  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:27:23am

re: #501 razorbacker

Mornin' realwest,

My mind keeps returning to that famous study during the '60s (though it can't have been too famous since I'm drawing a temporary blank on the name) of black family life in the US.

It made a splash for a while, and was generally reviled and debunked. But by almost every measure the larger society as a whole now mirrors or is actually worse than the numbers then quoted for black society.

*it's right on the tip of my tongue. I hate it when that happens*

The Moynihan report on poverty?

505 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:27:38am

damn, gotta remember that e-mail box

506 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:27:41am

re: #503 jorline

Good morning HH, dorian, granny and lori.

Morning Jorline.

507 razorbacker  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:28:26am

re: #504 Nevergiveup

The Moynihan report on poverty?

Exactly! Pat's famous report. *pre-senior moment recedes*

508 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:29:44am

re: #504 Nevergiveup
Good morning to you. Might have been the Moynihan report, but I think he's referring to a book the name of which also currently escapes me, but iirc it was something like "Black and White In America".

509 Nevergiveup  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:31:08am

re: #508 realwest

Good morning to you. Might have been the Moynihan report, but I think he's referring to a book the name of which also currently escapes me, but iirc it was something like "Black and White In America".

Well Pat Moynihan is probably another Democratic who would not be a Democrat today. He was semi-sane!

510 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:31:13am

re: #508 realwest
Ah,well given razorbacker's post #507, it would appear that MY memory is going on me! Again.
Sure wish some of it would stick around, damnit.

511 Miss Trixie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:34:34am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

I actually have some time to post today so

Hellllooooo

:D

{realwest} Morning luv *smooooch* :)

512 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:35:04am

re: #500 jorline Yes, it was a late one last night - especially because after I got off LGF I had to wrassle with my e-mail carrier because, for the sixth damn time in the last 4 weeks, my e-mail failed. No incoming, no outgoing.
And I stupidly went to "Chat" (typewritten communications with e-mail carrier) and wound up spending an hour+ with her.
Finally said goodnight, re-booted 'puter and everything was fine.
So I'm pretty damn tired right now!

513 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:36:22am
514 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:36:25am

re: #511 Miss Trixie
{Miss Trixie} - Good morning Gorgeous and a *smoooch* right back atcha! I'm doing ok, how are you doing and how come some extra LGF time for you?!

515 akak  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:39:35am

"My wife has met recently in the past couple of months with military families" - Obama

He fails to mention only wives that support Obama were invited.

516 jorline  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:40:43am

re: #512 realwest

Yes, it was a late one last night - especially because after I got off LGF I had to wrassle with my e-mail carrier because, for the sixth damn time in the last 4 weeks, my e-mail failed. No incoming, no outgoing.
And I stupidly went to "Chat" (typewritten communications with e-mail carrier) and wound up spending an hour+ with her.
Finally said goodnight, re-booted 'puter and everything was fine.
So I'm pretty damn tired right now!

Well, you look good this morning despite your late hour email debacle. I hate dealing with those issues as well...everything should work 100% of the time...lol...no hassles.

NATO meeting could be interesting today....does Europe take a stand?

517 lori lane  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:40:45am

BBL. Gotta attack the dang treadmill. :-] You all be good.

518 Miss Trixie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:41:14am

re: #514 realwest

{Miss Trixie} - Good morning Gorgeous and a *smoooch* right back atcha! I'm doing ok, how are you doing and how come some extra LGF time for you?!

Usually I can drop into the DT and play for awhile but with such an enormous workload lately it's just been impossible. Have had special projects dropped into my lap with very tight deadlines so there's that to consider too. By the time I make my way home I'm exhausted and all I wanna do is decompress and purge the stress from my system.

/I needs a Sugar Daddy to take me awaaaaaaaaay from all this! :D

519 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:42:17am

re: #144 solomonpanting

Take Viagra for more RAM?

ROTFLMAO--

Damn I'm old and slow. Probably doing this blogging business all wrong.

If I scroll back to read stuff earlier, I miss all the current stuff goin' on, and if I try to keep up on the thread, then I miss what went on before.

Suggestions, Or dare I ask you jokers, punsters, comedians fun loving guys?

520 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:42:35am

re: #516 jorline "....does Europe take a stand?"
Why yes, yes it will take a stand. Whatever is in the Euroweenies best interests will be carefully spelled out - unless the Russians object, in which case the Euroweenies will redraft it!

521 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:42:37am

re: #508 realwest

Good morning to you. Might have been the Moynihan report, but I think
he's referring to a book the name of which also currently escapes me,
but iirc it was something like "Black and White In America".

Are you thinking of "White Like Me," the Saturday Night Live skit in which Eddie Murphy disguises himself as a white man & banks give him free money?

522 Miss Trixie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:43:00am

realwest - BTW - I discovered that yours and Wahabbi Corridor's email were blocked as spam on my system at home. Don't know why or how that happened but you should have no trouble sending me stuff anytime you feel like it, darls.

523 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:43:04am

re: #516 jorline

I see the NATO meeting as all show and no dough..
What are they going to do? release a strongly worded letter?
I'll bet Russia is just shaking in it's boots.

524 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:43:53am

re: #149 Karridine

Had a dude from my old company on the NorK DMZ turn himself into a full tuck-and-roll 'trans-sexual' after service... at the age of 42... calls himself "Heather' now, sad case... Is THAT who you saw?

dunno...yellow dress and wig?

Morning friend

525 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:44:20am

re: #518 Miss Trixie Well I'm afraid I'm old enough to be your "Daddy" but I ain't got any real sugar, sugar! Sorry about that (and I've seen photos of you so when I say I'm sorry, I really MEAN IT!)!

526 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:45:40am
527 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:46:26am

re: #519 Dizzy26
Huh. Well from one slow thinking, slower typing guy, I can say to you that I just plunge right in wherever the thread is (I DO usually go to the links Charles has so thoughtfully provided first) and then just keep going down.
Usually most folks go to another thread before I reach the end of a thread, but if they've addressed me specifically I stay on the (then) dead thread to answer 'em.
Go to next thread, rinse and repeat!

528 razorbacker  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:47:08am

re: #515 akak

"My wife has met recently in the past couple of months with military families" - Obama

He fails to mention only wives that support Obama were invited.

Obama leads in military contributions to campaign

Obama got 44 contributions worth about $27,000 and Paul 23 for about $19,300. Republican John McCain, an Iraq war supporter and Vietnam prisoner of war, was third with about $18,500 from 32 donors.

99 contributors! Dayum! I knew that the military forces had been cut back a bit, but WOW! That's tiny.

529 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:47:11am

re: #518 Miss Trixie

You know Trixie..having a sugar daddy has it's drawbacks..
You spend so much time shopping, sunbathing and going out all the time that you've got no time left in the day for work.

530 Miss Trixie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:47:22am

re: #525 realwest

Well I'm afraid I'm old enough to be your "Daddy" but I ain't got any real sugar, sugar! Sorry about that (and I've seen photos of you so when I say I'm sorry, I really MEAN IT!)!

You crack me up. :D

531 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:47:27am
532 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:49:00am

re: #513 taxfreekiller

[Link: www.wnd.com...]

Looks like the flack got Corsi to make a statement on stuff.

Now the research on the facts starts, he had better be able to back this Aug. 18 stuff up with facts, and now he seems to understand
the guilt by association of being on nut case radio shows.

developing

There was also a fairly mainstream article this morning about Obama not actually disputing the facts that Corsi presents. I posted the link up in the list somewhere.

533 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:49:05am

re: #521 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Ah no, no I wasn't - this was a sociology book (*spit*) that actually made some sense out of the Black/White divergence in our culture in America. Wasn't bad, but didn't say anything that isn't still being said today.Really good book - wish the hell I could remember the name of it.

534 Nevergiveup  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:49:28am

re: #528 razorbacker

99 contributors! Dayum! I knew that the military forces had been cut back a bit, but WOW! That's tiny.

How do they know who is in the Military?

535 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:49:55am

re: #517 lori lane
Attack it? Hell, do what I did with mine: Shoot it!
Several times if need be!
LOL!

536 rlevitin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:50:06am

The same General who declared Poland a Nuclear target, now takes aim at Israel.

Russian Deputy Chief of General Staff Col.-Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn accused Israel in a Moscow press conference on Tuesday of arming the Georgian military with mines, explosive charges, special explosives for clearing minefields and eight kinds of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV).

"In 2007, Israeli experts trained Georgian commandos in Georgia and there were plans to supply heavy weaponry, electronic weapons, tanks and other arms at a later date, but the deal didn't work out," Nogovitsyn said.

Georgia's Deputy Defense Minister Batu Kutelia previously said that "Georgian corporals and sergeants train with Germans, alpine units and the navy work with French instructors, and special operations and urban warfare troops are taught by Israelis."

Nogovitsyn also said that the Russian soldiers had detained 20 mercenaries near the Georgian city of Poti, including three Arabs, all wearing Georgian army uniforms.

Earlier on Tuesday, Russia and Georgia exchanged prisoners of war, a move that could bring a substantial reduction in tensions and that Georgia hopes will expedite a Russian troop withdrawal from its territory.

537 Miss Trixie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:50:20am

re: #529 HoosierHoops

You know Trixie..having a sugar daddy has it's drawbacks..
You spend so much time shopping, sunbathing and going out all the time that you've got no time left in the day for work.

LOL! :D

538 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:50:23am

re: #232 Pvt Bin Jammin

'nite, Dizz, 'weet dreams. Glad you made it back to LGF.

sweet thought....thanks Missed that before I 'crashed'..

Got 2-3 hours in (nap time)
Nice making your acquaintance ma'am

539 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:50:25am

re: #534 Nevergiveup

How do they know who is in the Military?

Or which country's military they are in?

540 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:51:57am

re: #515 akak

"My wife has met recently in the past couple of months with military families" - Obama

He fails to mention only wives that support Obama were invited.

I thought Obama was supposed to be so well educated. "recently in the last couple of months"? Redundant. That alone would earn him a C- in my 5th grade classroom.

541 razorbacker  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:52:27am

re: #534 Nevergiveup

How do they know who is in the Military?

Because they're professional newshounds, Never. They have layers of fact-checkers, fer Pete's sakes. They ain't sitting around in their nightclothes (or lack thereof, as the case may be) pecking away at the old keyboards.

*Sorry to be so rough on ya. I know you can take it, though.*

542 Nevergiveup  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:53:05am

re: #539 CIA Reject

Or which country's military they are in?

Well, when those contributions come in Ruble's, it's kinda obvious!

543 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:53:16am

re: #530 Miss Trixie
BWAHAHAHAHA - My plan is WORKING! Yes!
Get 'em to laugh BEFORE you, ah, uh, well, really give 'em something to laugh at; that way they're all laughed out and can only manage a tiny giggle!

544 Nevergiveup  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:54:38am

re: #541 razorbacker

Because they're professional newshounds, Never. They have layers of fact-checkers, fer Pete's sakes. They ain't sitting around in their nightclothes (or lack thereof, as the case may be) pecking away at the old keyboards.

*Sorry to be so rough on ya. I know you can take it, though.*

I guess your right, since we know their fact-checkers weren't working on the Edward's Love Child Story?

545 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:54:55am

re: #542 Nevergiveup

Well, when those contributions come in Ruble's, it's kinda obvious!

Rubles? Please, Krugerrands only Comrade!

546 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:56:03am

re: #536 rlevitin

Last week Rush had a Georgia Troofer on the air, who claimed that the Russian attack was in response to a covert Israeli/Blackwater operation. Didn't take them long, did it?

547 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:56:04am

re: #536 rlevitin
AHA! Now we finally get to what motivated Russia in the first place -nervousness over Israel or (heaven forfend, the US) attacking Iran. Russia best watch it's ass with Israel, though; unlike the US, Israel ain't afraid to confront a bully when it's national security is at stake.

548 razorbacker  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:57:33am

re: #544 Nevergiveup

I guess your right, since we know their fact-checkers weren't working on the Edward's Love Child Story?

What? Johnny Carson's old announcer has a secret love child? Why am I just now hearing about this? Someone alert the media. The chase is afoot!

549 Golem Akbar  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:58:11am

Hail Lizardia. Lizardia rules the (broadcom) waves...
Good morning all.

550 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:59:09am

re: #549 Golem Akbar
Good morning Golem! How are you today?

551 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:59:32am

re: #239 LeePro

I think I owe you an apology. After reading your further comments, I realized all that you've just said. I was outa line... forgive?

/none needed, didn't even know (catch) the slight.
:-)

I'll try not screw up old friendships too much... But as I said earlier, I am a
slow learner, and slow typer, and slow.....well, I do get off somehings fast!

552 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:59:36am

re: #547 realwest

AHA! Now we finally get to what motivated Russia in the first place -nervousness over Israel or (heaven forfend, the US) attacking Iran. Russia best watch it's ass with Israel, though; unlike the US, Israel ain't afraid to confront a bully when it's national security is at stake.

I sure hope they get a decent government soon.....they didn't do such a good job confronting Lebanon/Hiz'b'allah last summer.

553 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 6:59:51am

If you're interested, Fox is about to run a story on the guy found with the pound of cyanide and connections with a terrorist website.

554 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:00:24am

re: #547 realwest

AHA!
Now we finally get to what motivated Russia in the first place
-nervousness over Israel or (heaven forfend, the US) attacking Iran.
Russia best watch it's ass with Israel, though; unlike the US, Israel
ain't afraid to confront a bully when it's national security is at
stake.

As I said yesterday, Russia could very easily respond to our mutual defense pact with Poland by signing a similar accord with Iran. With the threat of a Russian response to any attack on Iran, Iran would have free reign to continue its nuke program, as well as conventional terrorist campaign. The window to act is getting smaller every day.

555 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:00:33am

re: #552 eschew_obfuscation Yeah, well there IS that!
Of course, they know they can count on us don't they?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!

556 Kenneth  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:01:16am

re: #477 galloping granny

Good essay here:

Did Russia Plan Its War In Georgia?

Short answer: Hell, yes.

A very thorough debunking of the "Georgia foolishly provoked Russia" propaganda line peddled by the liberal Western media.

557 jorline  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:01:40am

re: #520 realwest

"....does Europe take a stand?"
Why yes, yes it will take a stand. Whatever is in the Euroweenies best interests will be carefully spelled out - unless the Russians object, in which case the Euroweenies will redraft it!

Several of the countries have announced that they will send aid...this alone will will piss the Bear off, hope they stand by their convections. At any rate it should be fun to watch.

558 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:01:52am

re: #555 realwest

Yeah, well there IS that!
Of course, they know they can count on us don't they?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!

Especially questionable if BD_VM turns out to be right.

559 Golem Akbar  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:01:52am

re: #550 realwest

Good morning Golem! How are you today?

Better, thanks. The coffee is working. My eyes are starting to open. You?

560 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:02:02am

re: #553 {galloping granny} Ah, Mom's watching something about cooking on TV; if I try to change it y'all will be calling me "lefty" from now on - any chance of you either live blogging it or at least summarizing it?!

561 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:02:27am

re: #559 Golem Akbar

Better, thanks. The coffee is working. My eyes are starting to open. You?

Coffee. . . . maybe I'll make some of that.

562 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:03:10am

re: #560 realwest

Ah, Mom's watching something about cooking on TV; if I try to change it y'all will be calling me "lefty" from now on - any chance of you either live blogging it or at least summarizing it?!

I can live blog it for you real. No problem. Luckily, in this house I am the Mom that gets to whack the hand that tries to change the TV.

563 razorbacker  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:03:57am

I've gotta go supervise the illegal aliens do some yardwork before the rains come. BBL.

564 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:04:23am

re: #559 Golem Akbar
Geez, Golem - I LOVE my coffee - grind the beans fresh daily and all, but that stuff is EXPENSIVE as hell!
14 oz's for $14.00 - at a buck an ounce, I can't afford that stuff!

565 jorline  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:04:39am

re: #523 HoosierHoops

I see the NATO meeting as all show and no dough..
What are they going to do? release a strongly worded letter?
I'll bet Russia is just shaking in it's boots.

If they can muster the courage to send aid, that in it's self would be a slap in Russia's face...but then again we're talking about eurowennies.

566 Kenneth  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:04:56am

The Russo-Iranian Axis
By DANIEL SCHWAMMENTHAL
FROM TODAY'S WALL STREET JOURNAL EUROPE
August 19, 2008

Russia's rape of Georgia requires more than just a rethinking of how the West can protect other former Soviet states from a resurgent Kremlin. Every international crisis with a Russian component now takes on a new dimension. In the case of Iran's nuclear program, this means the European Union's insistence on U.N.-approved sanctions against Tehran may no longer be just naive but willfully negligent...

...Any conflagration in the Gulf would send energy prices through the roof. And this is where Russia's stalling at the U.N. Security Council comes in. It increases Iran's chances of getting the bomb while at the same time it makes a pre-emptive Western attack on Iran's nuclear installations more likely. In either case, as a major oil and gas producer, Russia would stand to profit from the inevitable panic on the energy markets.

567 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:05:27am

re: #562 galloping granny Hey {galloping granny} thanks a lot!

568 akak  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:05:35am

Hackers exploit Olympic fever to infiltrate PCs of unsuspecting fans

[Link: www.itbusiness.ca...]

lol

Shocking!

569 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:07:55am

re: #566 Kenneth Good morning Kenneth - hope you're doing well today.
My goodness, The WSJ finally caught up to what we've been saying for years now on Iran/Russia!
Pretty soon, they'll announce who won the 2004 Presidential election!

570 Golem Akbar  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:08:07am

re: #564 realwest

Geez, Golem - I LOVE my coffee - grind the beans fresh daily and all, but that stuff is EXPENSIVE as hell!
14 oz's for $14.00 - at a buck an ounce, I can't afford that stuff!


I know. It's a rare treat. Got a kick like nothing else. And the artwork is by Ray Troll. This guy is a treasure. I met him once, at his store in Ketchikan Alaska. At least check out his art work. Guaranteed to make you smile.

571 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:08:16am

Here you go real - I don't type quite fast enough to get every last word

story of how a strange death in denver - somali found next to jar of cyanide. mixed cyanide with water and drank it. terror instructions have turned up on a jihadi site instructions for poisoning a water supply with cyanide. Could not have poisoned a reservoir with the amount he had, but easily could have poisoned water bottles, etc. (I'm thinking those water fountain jugs)

got on bus in Canada - Ottowa - and then turned up dead in Denver. Somali, strange US town - where did he get a half liter bottle of cyanide in Denver?

family says not suicidal. schizo, but taking medicine.

There is a website where al Q tries to push individuals into acting alone. (Missing phone link so no report) Other commenter - we should not be surprised at finding this kind of information on AQ websites. Whatever he intended to do with it, not a lot of support required.

572 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:09:17am
573 razorbacker  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:10:54am

On my way out, but this is from some link or another posted earlier.

It made me LOL. Out loud.

This election has already been decided.

First, he explained to me, we should understand that every human has a brain divided into three parts. The cortex is the seat of logic, while the limbic deals with emotions. It is what he calls the “third brain” — the “reptilian brain” — that unmistakably dominates the other two. It houses a person’s fundamental instinct for two and only two things: survival and reproduction. While every human walking the planet has these two instincts, some people are more “reptilian” than others. Those others could be depending more on their “cortex” — the part of the brain that is home to logic, that controls intelligence. Or they can seem to run mostly on emotion. Yet without question, the research shows again and again that whether the subject is picking cars, coffee or presidents, people respond with their instincts. When this fact of life is overlaid with culture — in the case of voters for president of the United States, American culture — the result is easy to see.

I don't care who you are. That right there is funny, that is.

574 rawmuse  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:12:40am

re: #571 galloping granny
Good morning, Lizards! re: Denver cyande case, the family always says mental illness. Same plea in the San Francisco hit and run jihadi who was running over people in the vicinity of the Jewish Community Center. It is SOP.

575 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:12:49am

re: #565 jorline

If they can muster the courage to send aid, that in it's self would be a slap in Russia's face...but then again we're talking about eurowennies.


I don't mind NATO sending aid..but they should hire the 5th Division of the US Marines to deliver it..
/ hey ruskies..look who's in da house..a real fighting force..

576 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:14:13am

re: #527 realwest

Huh. Well from one slow thinking, slower typing guy, I can say to you that I just plunge right in wherever the thread is (I DO usually go to the links Charles has so thoughtfully provided first) and then just keep going down.
Usually most folks go to another thread before I reach the end of a thread, but if they've addressed me specifically I stay on the (then) dead thread to answer 'em.
Go to next thread, rinse and repeat!

Thanks for the info.

Guess I'll try that out, thanks

But, again, knowing me and my mental problems, I'll probably end up just blundering through, fuc er..screwin' up til I get
this posting stuff better. I get comfortable real fast sometimes.

577 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:15:45am

re: #570 Golem Akbar
Checked out some of his poster art - pretty damn good! Thanks!

578 jorline  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:18:30am

re: #575 HoosierHoops

I don't mind NATO sending aid..but they should hire the 5th Division of the US Marines to deliver it..
/ hey ruskies..look who's in da house..a real fighting force..

Hopefully they could use their own military to deliver the aid. The eurowennies better stand up now or be prepared for more Georgia invasions incidents.

579 Golem Akbar  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:18:56am

re: #577 realwest

Checked out some of his poster art - pretty damn good! Thanks!

It's a no-sh#t good investment, when you have the extra bucks, to both buy a pound of the legal high coffee and get a poster, too. When I'm down (happens dammit) the Deadman's Reach poster on my wall makes me smile.

580 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:19:41am

re: #571 galloping granny Ah, thank you - nope, definitely not enough to do a resovoir and drinking fountains? At the DEM convention?
Hey, c'mon, we all know they drink that there French bottled water and how was he gonna open all them bottles to put in some cyanide? And if he didn't put in enough to kill someone, then they'd just get sick and delusional and how the hell would anyone know the difference at the DEM convention?!

Seriously - I still think a lone whacko - not part of a conspiracy, but if I was gonna go to the DEM convention, I think I'd stick to cans of beer, myself!

581 David Simon  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:20:23am

re: #574 rawmuse

Good morning, Lizards! re: Denver cyande case, the family always says mental illness. Same plea in the San Francisco hit and run jihadi who was running over people in the vicinity of the Jewish Community Center. It is SOP.

Could be. Al Qaeda isn't going to waste its "best" people on small-time (I really hate to use that nomenclature) stuff though. The best-trained operatives will be used for something really big. That's why it isn't too much of a stretch to believe that this guy was a lone nut.

582 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:20:30am

Sex and Islam

Saudi marriage officiant on proper age to have sex for first time (MEMRI).

Of when when WE say this is what they beleive, we're called bigots.

What do you call it when THEY say it?

Boker effen Tov.

583 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:20:32am

re: #572 taxfreekiller
Hey TFK! Well they may have MSM air cover, but we got the LGF SAM's!

584 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:22:38am

re: #574 rawmuse

Good morning, Lizards! re: Denver cyande case, the family always says mental illness. Same plea in the San Francisco hit and run jihadi who was running over people in the vicinity of the Jewish Community Center. It is SOP.

I could make a remark about mental illness and Islam but I don't want to get banned.

585 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:22:41am

re: #579 Golem Akbar
The "Salmon Enchanted Evening" made me smile!

586 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:24:43am

re: #493 realwest

Woulda felt better if you'd given a summary and a link rather than take up so much of Charles' bandwidth.

It was an email, I'm on there list, thought this one was important, a classic of diplospeak in fact worth studying, did you see the latest punch up between the President and PM in Ukraine?

587 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:25:26am

re: #580 realwest

Ah, thank you - nope, definitely not enough to do a resovoir and drinking fountains? At the DEM convention?
Hey, c'mon, we all know they drink that there French bottled water and how was he gonna open all them bottles to put in some cyanide? And if he didn't put in enough to kill someone, then they'd just get sick and delusional and how the hell would anyone know the difference at the DEM convention?!

Seriously - I still think a lone whacko - not part of a conspiracy, but if I was gonna go to the DEM convention, I think I'd stick to cans of beer, myself!

What I'm thinking of is those 5 gallon water bottles like that have in your doctor's office. Those would be fairly common to scatter around a convention sight. Somai, so he is black, low educated, probably does manual labor - or at least he certainly would easily give that impression. Those 5 gallon bottles empty pretty quickly at a convention, somebody has to load up the new ones.

588 Golem Akbar  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:26:41am

re: #582 Ben Hur

Sex and Islam

Saudi marriage officiant on proper age to have sex for first time (MEMRI).

Of when when WE say this is what they beleive, we're called bigots.

What do you call it when THEY say it?

Boker effen Tov.

So, the Arabs really are the living missing links between the Stone Age and Neanderthals!

589 Golem Akbar  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:27:22am

re: #585 realwest

The "Salmon Enchanted Evening" made me smile!

Remember: Spawn 'til you die!
Gotta love it.

590 David Simon  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:27:43am

re: #584 Kosh's Shadow

I could make a remark about mental illness and Islam but I don't want to get banned.

Yep, there sure is a stunning amount of psychosis in the Islamic world. It's mind-boggling, really.

591 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:28:21am

re: #554 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

As I said yesterday, Russia could very easily respond to our mutual defense pact with Poland by signing a similar accord with Iran. With the threat of a Russian response to any attack on Iran, Iran would have free reign to continue its nuke program, as well as conventional terrorist campaign. The window to act is getting smaller every day.

In that case, we would have to sign a mutual defense treaty with Israel stating if they get nuked, the US will retaliate against the attacking party and all countries that have a mutual defense pact with it. Let Russia know that they can't get away with it.
Actually, this should be communicated to Russia beforehand, to discourage them from signing such a treaty with Iran.

592 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:30:24am

re: #586 lifeofthemind
Sorry, didn't know it was from an e-mail and I didn't notice - I kinda nodded off after the second or third use of the word "modalities".

593 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:31:02am

re: #591 Kosh's Shadow

In that case, we would have to sign a mutual defense treaty with Israel stating if they get nuked, the US will retaliate against the attacking party and all countries that have a mutual defense pact with it. Let Russia know that they can't get away with it.
Actually, this should be communicated to Russia beforehand, to discourage them from signing such a treaty with Iran.

What makes you so sure they have not already done so?

594 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:31:37am

re: #575 HoosierHoops

I don't mind NATO sending aid..but they should hire the 5th Division of the US Marines to deliver it..
/ hey ruskies..look who's in da house..a real fighting force..


5 Marine divisions? Your lips to God's ears.

595 rlevitin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:32:05am

re: #573 razorbacker

On my way out, but this is from some link or another posted earlier.

It made me LOL. Out loud.

This election has already been decided.

I don't care who you are. That right there is funny, that is.

I knew there was something wise about the lizards in this place.

596 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:32:18am
597 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:33:27am

Ambush of French paratroopers near Kabul kills 10

Prayers to the families.

Victims of American unilateralism?.

598 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:33:36am

re: #592 realwest

Sorry, didn't know it was from an e-mail and I didn't notice - I kinda nodded off after the second or third use of the word "modalities".


Your tax dollars hard at work.
/pass the beluga please.

599 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:34:09am

re: #592 realwest

Sorry, didn't know it was from an e-mail and I didn't notice - I kinda nodded off after the second or third use of the word "modalities".

I was actually kind of glad that he posted the whole statement. Especially as it doesn't seem to be available online yet.

My eyes tend to slide right over modalities :)

600 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:34:19am

re: #593 galloping granny

What makes you so sure they have not already done so?

I'm not sure if you're saying we already told Russia we'd sign a mutual defense pact with Israel if they signed one with Iran or if you mean Russia already signed a treaty with Iran.
The former is possible. I doubt the latter, because it would have been publicized; the main reason for such treaties is deterrence, and it needs to be public for that.
And with Condi and Gates, I doubt the US signed anything with Israel, the more I think about it.

601 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:35:32am

Gonna stop being so concerned with ME so much, and start digesting what U R saying!

Promise....!
(Do can lizards grow tougher scales)?

lizards got scales in the first place ? gotta check on that...later

Oh well, I'm going to watch Olympics now, and stop thinking about lizards for a while...[though damn things most lizards gieckos aren't very fast on this new track surface they usin' now.

602 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:35:36am

re: #597 Ben Hur

Ambush of French paratroopers near Kabul kills 10

Prayers to the families.

Victims of American unilateralism?.

Of course, if it wasn't for our unilateralism those French troops would have been at home at the local car-b-que.

603 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:36:17am

re: #587 galloping granny Huh. Hadn't thought of it that way - still think the Dems would be drinking bottled Perrier or somesuch but it's a good idea - wonder if he had a job promised to him at the convention and just got there too early (I mean, at $200 a night, that's an EXPENSIVE wait)?
And I also wonder how he managed to get that hotel room without a credit card. Last time I was in Denver (about 6 years ago) even though I paid cash, I hadda give 'em a credit card too - I suppose in case I trashed the room or something! Same thing happended to me and Mom in April or May of 2006 when we came down to Charlotte to look for apartements (and the ever gracious, Obi-wan - RIP - took THREE entire days off just to drive us all over the Charlotte metro area) and stayed at the
Hilton. And our separate rooms didn't cost anything approaching $200 a night each.

604 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:36:46am

re: #600 Kosh's Shadow

I'm
not sure if you're saying we already told Russia we'd sign a mutual
defense pact with Israel if they signed one with Iran or if you mean
Russia already signed a treaty with Iran.
The former is possible. I
doubt the latter, because it would have been publicized; the main
reason for such treaties is deterrence, and it needs to be public for
that.
And with Condi and Gates, I doubt the US signed anything with Israel, the more I think about it.

Agreed. We need to maintain the fiction that we're "honest brokers" between the one free, democratic country in the most stragically vital area in the world & her gibbering savage neighbors.

605 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:37:13am

re: #600 Kosh's Shadow

I'm not sure if you're saying we already told Russia we'd sign a mutual defense pact with Israel if they signed one with Iran or if you mean Russia already signed a treaty with Iran.
The former is possible. I doubt the latter, because it would have been publicized; the main reason for such treaties is deterrence, and it needs to be public for that.
And with Condi and Gates, I doubt the US signed anything with Israel, the more I think about it.

Sorry - I realized I might have done better to be specific. After I pushed the button.

I mean, what makes you so sure that Russia and Iran (and Chavez for that matter) have not already signed a treaty? Putin and Iran and Chavez have been playing footsie and visiting back and forth for quite some while now.

606 CommonCents  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:37:35am

I saw on the news last night that Al Qaeda is looking at remote control vehicles because they are having difficulty recruiting suicide bombers. I have 2 possible explanations, 1) they are running out of 'dead-enders' or 2) the fanatacism for the cause is dwindling. Any other hypothesis?

607 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:37:40am

re: #591 Kosh's Shadow
Don't we already have a mutual defense treaty with Israel?

608 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:39:07am

re: #607 realwest

Do you actually believe the U.S. would send troops if Israel were attacked?

609 christheprofessor  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:39:13am

re: #606 CommonCents

I saw on the news last night that Al Qaeda is looking at remote control vehicles because they are having difficulty recruiting suicide bombers. I have 2 possible explanations, 1) they are running out of 'dead-enders' or 2) the fanatacism for the cause is dwindling. Any other hypothesis?

Just diversifying their delivery modes...

611 CommonCents  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:40:04am

re: #594 lifeofthemind

5 Marine divisions? Your lips to God's ears.

My grandfather was in the 5th during the Big One (WWII). The way they handled the Japanese on the islands would have made them well suited for flushing out AQ and Talibs in the mountains.

612 CommonCents  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:40:50am

re: #608 WrathofG-d

Do you actually believe the U.S. would send troops if Israel were attacked?


If not, I'm sure there would be volunteers out the whazoo.

613 aussiemagpie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:41:55am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Well I've had a few months off from posting here as my old computer found it too hard to open the comments bit on LGF - now with a shiny new laptop and a sparkling new PC - there is no excuse anymore for not posting

So hello from me on a cold Sydney night!

614 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:42:08am

re: #609 christheprofessor

Just diversifying their delivery modes...

Leveraging technology to empower "Total Quality Jihad"?

615 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:43:06am

re: #606 CommonCents

I saw on the news last night that Al Qaeda is looking at remote control vehicles because they are having difficulty recruiting suicide bombers. I have 2 possible explanations, 1) they are running out of 'dead-enders' or 2) the fanatacism for the cause is dwindling. Any other hypothesis?

Nukes are too heavy for a suicide bomber.
That is, unless they got some of the maybe-apocryphal "suitcase nukes" from Russia.

616 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:43:19am
617 daughter of patriots  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:43:31am

re: #606 CommonCents

AQ recruits discover breathing is better?

618 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:43:38am

re: #612 CommonCents

I would hope so.

And on that note...I'm going to go "volunteer" to party in the Tel Aviv night life.

Boker Tov America!
Erev Tov H'Eretz!

619 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:44:00am

re: #610 lifeofthemind

Russian soldiers take prisoners in Georgian port, seize American Humvees.

Ukrainian PM accused of High Treason.

I heard about the Russians seizing the port policemen. They also towed the coast guard boat out into the harbor at blew it up. They are really going for a scorched earth policy ala Stalin.

620 coz  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:44:12am

Good Morning and Happy Tuesday from the Land of Coz!

621 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:44:26am

re: #597 Ben Hur Definitely prayers to the families. And what about American unilateralism - ya mean like in Iraq (oops, sorry, forgot about that pesky UN resolution asking the US and "allies" to topple Saddam)? We've had "allies" in Afghanistan since day 1.
Still a shame about those French soldiers.
But ya know, the fact that there were only 10 and it was a well prepared ambush, makes me think French or Coalition intel has been infiltrated.
But still and all, the money quote from your link was this one:
"More than 3,400 people — mostly militants — have been killed in insurgency-related violence this year, according to an Associated Press count based on figures from Western and Afghan officials." [emphasis added, realwest].

622 JCM  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:44:46am

Morning Lizards!

More BHO documents buried!

Although the press has been notably lax about pursuing the matter, the full story of the Obama-Ayers relationship calls the truth of Obama’s account seriously into question.

[snip]

This much we know from the public record, but a large cache of documents housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), is likely to flesh out the story. That document cache contains the internal files of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. The records in question are extensive, consisting of 132 boxes, containing 947 file folders, a total of about 70 linear feet of material. Not only would these files illuminate the working relationship between Obama and Bill Ayers, they would also provide significant insight into a web of ties linking Obama to various radical organizations, including Obama-approved foundation gifts to political allies. Obama’s leadership style and abilities are also sure to be illuminated by the documents in question.

Cover-Up?

Unfortunately, I don’t yet have access to the documents. The Special Collections section of the Richard J. Daley Library agreed to let me read them, but just before I boarded my flight to Chicago, the top library officials mysteriously intervened to bar access.
623 aussiemagpie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:45:08am

re: #609 christheprofessor


Hi there {CTP}!

One favour please - i've lost your email address when my old computer died - could you email me please - thanks

624 coz  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:45:23am

Word of the Day
Tuesday August 19, 2008

aestival ES-tuh-vuhl, adjective:
Of or belonging to the summer; as, aestival diseases. [Spelled also estival.]

625 CommonCents  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:45:40am

re: #617 daughter of patriots

AQ recruits discover breathing is better?

Stoneage muslims making discoveries? That's a stretch.

626 lori lane  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:45:46am

Welcome back! Nothing more exciting than a new computer (or two, it sounds like in your case!) :-)

627 JCM  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:45:54am

re: #622 JCM

And I thought the new name of Libraries was "Information Services?"

628 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:46:02am

re: #618 WrathofG-d

Go to Clara.

629 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:46:07am

re: #614 CIA Reject

LOL. An oldie but goodie. I almost wish Zarqawi were still alive so we could be treated to more postings from "The Zarkman."

630 David Simon  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:46:12am

re: #605 galloping granny

Sorry - I realized I might have done better to be specific. After I pushed the button.

I mean, what makes you so sure that Russia and Iran (and Chavez for that matter) have not already signed a treaty? Putin and Iran and Chavez have been playing footsie and visiting back and forth for quite some while now.

I wouldn't think that Russia is itching to go to war with the US over Iran. They sell Iran and Syria weapons, and that's probably as far as the "pact" goes.

631 aussiemagpie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:46:41am

re: #616 taxfreekiller

aussiemapie

we will send Al Gore and his global warming blanket down under to keep you blokes warm, that is if you agree to keep him.

Hi there

Yeah right! I'd rather keep my bedsocks on all year round than have him here *spit*

632 Nevergiveup  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:46:44am

re: #604 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

If G-D forbid, over my dead body, and not in my lifetime the anointed one gets elected, then it will be no fiction.

633 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:47:19am

re: #613 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Well I've had a few months off from posting here as my old computer found it too hard to open the comments bit on LGF - now with a shiny new laptop and a sparkling new PC - there is no excuse anymore for not posting

So hello from me on a cold Sydney night!


Welcome Aussie...I never thought it got cold down under...
Maybe your air conditioner is still on? :)

634 lori lane  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:47:22am

re: #622 JCM

Morning Lizards!

More BHO documents buried!

Awesome news! About time this chit gets out!

635 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:47:44am

re: #622 JCM

Morning Lizards!

More BHO documents buried!

As a follow up, if you look through the links you will find another story by a different researcher who has been trying to access the national Annenberg files, held at Brown. Those are "sealed" too.

636 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:47:49am

re: #606 CommonCents
Yeah, the overall number of fanatics is drying up or eing killed.
The Taliban cannot continue to lose bodies at the rate they are. Our kill ratio is truly incredible, something like 10 of them for every 1.5 of us. Taliban can't sustain that for long, with or without Al-Q's assistance.

637 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:48:26am

re: #626 lori lane

Welcome back! Nothing more exciting than a new computer (or two, it sounds like in your case!) :-)

Lori: Back from your treadmill?
Are you working off the pizza from Motherbears on campus?

638 Iron Fist  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:48:29am

re: #629 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I thought his final posting from Hell was funny enough to compensate us for his loss :-)

639 CommonCents  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:48:31am

I think Russia is just gloating because Jaromir Jagr left the Rangers to play for oil money. But like their military, he's past his prime and doesn't amount to much anymore.

640 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:48:47am

re: #608 WrathofG-d Up until the Georgia fiasco I did; not so sure now.

641 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:48:49am

re: #629 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

LOL. An oldie but goodie. I almost wish Zarqawi were still alive so we could be treated to more postings from "The Zarkman."

I keep the link around - it comes in handy for cutting through a lot of the "management speak" I'm sometimes forced to endure at work.

642 Golem Akbar  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:48:57am

re: #622 JCM

Morning Lizards!

More BHO documents buried!

I heard about this yesterday on Bill Bennet's radio show. MSM is not too interested in doing any digging, evidently. And hopefully, the truth will come out sometime right after the Democrats hold their convention and nominate BHO. Otherwise we may have to deal with Hillary...

643 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:49:04am

re: #630 David Simon

I wouldn't think that Russia is itching to go to war with the US over Iran. They sell Iran and Syria weapons, and that's probably as far as the "pact" goes.

I don't think they are "itching to go to war" - I have said right along that my estimation of this is that it is an attempt to decapitate us, relieve us of our power, prestige and standing in the world. In other words, destroy us.

644 coz  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:49:05am

Sweet!

A 1.5 oz. milk chocolate bar has only 220 calories.
A 1.75 oz. serving of potato chips has 230 calories.

A recent study indicates when men crave food, they tend to crave fat and salt. When women crave food, they tend to desire chocolate.

American and Russian space flights have always included chocolate.

American chocolate manufacturers use about 1.5 billion pounds of milk -- only surpassed by the cheese and ice cream industries.

Americans consumed over 3.1 billion pounds of chocolate in 2001, which is almost half of the total world's production.

Aztec emperor Montezuma drank 50 golden goblets of hot chocolate every day. It was thick, dyed red and flavored with chili peppers.

Bittersweet chocolate is what is usually called for in baking. It contains more chocolate liquor (at least 35%) and less sugar than sweet chocolate. Semisweet chocolate contains 15% - 35% chocolate liquor.

CAFFEINE CONTENT
White chocolate 3ounce bar or 1 cup chips
Caffeine 0.0 mg
Theobromine 0.0 mg
Baking chocolate, unsweetened 1 ounce
Caffeine 57.120 mg
Theobromine 346.360 mg
Semisweet chocolate 1 ounce (chocolate chips)
Caffeine 17.577 mg
Theobromine 137.781mg
Milk Chocolate 1.55 ounce bar
Caffeine 11.440 mg
Theobromine 74.360 mg
Cocoa mix 1 envelope/3 heaping tsp
Caffeine 5.040 mg
Theobromine 169.680 mg
Cocoa powder, unsweetened 1 tbsp
Caffeine 12.420 mg
Theobromine 111.078 mg

Caffeine: there are 100 to 150 milligrams of caffeine in an eight-ounce cup of brewed coffee, 10 milligrams in a six-ounce cup of cocoa, 5 to 10 milligrams in one ounce of bittersweet chocolate, and 5 milligrams in one ounce of milk chocolate.

Chocolate contains phenylethylamine (PEA), a natural substance that is reputed to stimulate the same reaction in the body as falling in love.

Chocolate manufacturers currently use 40 percent of the world's almonds and 20 percent of the world's peanuts.

Chocolate syrup was used for blood in the famous 45 second shower scene in Alfred Hitchcock's movie, Psycho, which actually took 7 days to shoot.

Chocolate Timeline:
1824: John Cadbury, an English Quaker, begins roasting and grinding chocolate beans to sell in his tea and coffee shop. In 1842 Cadbury's Chocolate Company in England creates the first chocolate bar.
1875: A Swiss chocolate maker, Daniel Peter, mixes Henri Nestle's con- densed milk with chocolate and the two men found a company to manufacture the first milk chocolate.
1894: Milton Hershey adds a line of chocolate to his caramel manufacturing business. Soon he invents the Hershey Bar by experimenting with milk chocolate. Hershey's Cocoa appears next.
1896: Leonard Hershfield invents the Tootsie Roll, named after his daughter.
1897: Brownies are first mentioned in print, listed for sale in the Sears, Roebuck and Co. catalogue.
About 1900: A machine called the enrober is invented to replace the task of hand-dipping chocolate.
1930: Franklin Mars invents the Snickers Bar.
1939: Nestle introduces semisweet chocolate morsels.
1940: The Mars company invents M&M's for soldiers going to World War II.

645 JCM  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:49:50am

re: #635 galloping granny

As a follow up, if you look through the links you will find another story by a different researcher who has been trying to access the national Annenberg files, held at Brown. Those are "sealed" too.

BHO's Records.
As lawyer? None available.
As legislator? None available.
Medical records? One page physicians summary.
Annenberg (association with Ayers)? Access denied!

646 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:49:52am

Palestinians slam Israel's 'revolving door policy' on prisoners

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA AA!

Oh, sorry....sorry.....

647 aussiemagpie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:49:56am

re: #626 lori lane

Hi there, and thanks!

648 CommonCents  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:50:28am

re: #636 realwest

Yeah, the overall number of fanatics is drying up or eing killed.
The Taliban cannot continue to lose bodies at the rate they are. Our kill ratio is truly incredible, something like 10 of them for every 1.5 of us. Taliban can't sustain that for long, with or without Al-Q's assistance.

I imagine it's a little higher than 20:3. They went 7:0 yesterday in another failed ambush. I know our casualty rate has increased in Afghanistan but I think you need another zero on their number.

649 rlevitin  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:51:13am

re: #600 Kosh's Shadow

I'm not sure if you're saying we already told Russia we'd sign a mutual defense pact with Israel if they signed one with Iran or if you mean Russia already signed a treaty with Iran.
The former is possible. I doubt the latter, because it would have been publicized; the main reason for such treaties is deterrence, and it needs to be public for that.
And with Condi and Gates, I doubt the US signed anything with Israel, the more I think about it.

There is a new DEBKA report that an US deal to supply Israel with a new form of Radar had a little catch to it. Apparently the Americans won't allow Israeli's to actually operate it.

In granting Israel the powerful FBX-T radar system to enhance its early warning resources against incoming missiles, Washington laid down a strict hands-off proviso. The system will be installed at a US base in the southern Israeli Negev. It will be off-limits to Israelis and managed exclusively by American personnel.

This discovery, revealed here for the first time by DEBKAfile’s military sources, has aroused astonished rancor in senior Israel army circles. They questioned the judgment of prime minister Ehud Olmert, defense minister Ehud Barak, foreign minister Tzipi Livni, Shaul Mofaz, who leads the Israeli side of the twice-annual strategic dialogue with the US, and chief of staff Lt. Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi in accepting this proviso.

650 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:51:22am

re: #610 lifeofthemind
Ah the lead sentence makes me think this is internal Ukrainian politics: "President Yushchenko of Ukraine accused his prime minister of committing "high treason" by not speaking out against the Kremlin during an escalating stand off with Russia.

The feud between the one-time allies over Ukraine's strategic outlook raised fears that Kiev is vulnerable to political chaos should Moscow hatch a campaign to destabilise a second pro-Western neighbor having humiliated Georgia."

651 Occasional Reader  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:51:29am

re: #612 CommonCents

If not, I'm sure there would be volunteers out the whazoo.

In fact, our finest warrior has already volunteered. So not to worry.

652 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:51:32am

re: #606 CommonCents

Need to change tactics because the US has pretty well figured out how to deal with IEDs, EFPs, and other kinds of explosives. Suicide bombers are still a difficult threat to guard against, as are car and truck bombs, but layered defenses help protect critical assets.

That's why most of the victims are those at the checkpoints or are civilians who are unprotected at places like hospitals or business areas.

Also important to keep in mind is that most of the victims of these terrorist attacks are not infidels but Muslims. You'd think that the Muslims would get sick and tired of being used as canon fodder, and in places like Iraq, they did. That put an end to al Qaeda's terror plans for that country, but it's tougher in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan, where the Islamists are firmly entrenched.

653 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:51:40am

re: #606 CommonCents

I saw on the news last night that Al Qaeda is looking at remote control vehicles because they are having difficulty recruiting suicide bombers. I have 2 possible explanations, 1) they are running out of 'dead-enders' or 2) the fanatacism for the cause is dwindling. Any other hypothesis?

All the virgins are gone?

654 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:52:45am

re: #613 aussiemagpie
Hey there {Aussie} good evening to you (or is it early morning?!) hope you keep warm tonight!
And, btw, please check your e-mail!

655 JCM  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:53:06am

re: #650 realwest

Ah the lead sentence makes me think this is internal Ukrainian politics: "President Yushchenko of Ukraine accused his prime minister of committing "high treason" by not speaking out against the Kremlin during an escalating stand off with Russia.

The feud between the one-time allies over Ukraine's strategic outlook raised fears that Kiev is vulnerable to political chaos should Moscow hatch a campaign to destabilise a second pro-Western neighbor having humiliated Georgia."

I can understand the angst. If BHO get elected how long before the system gets yanked?

656 aussiemagpie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:53:07am

re: #633 HoosierHoops

Welcome Aussie...I never thought it got cold down under...
Maybe your air conditioner is still on? :)

Hi there and thanks!

Never cold down here? This is a very long cold winter, and we've even had a a little bit of that white stuff fall around Sydney

Even the Sunshine State, Queensland has broken it's low temp records this winter

BRRRRRR

657 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:53:16am

re: #645 JCM

BHO's Records.
As lawyer? None available.
As legislator? None available.
Medical records? One page physicians summary.
Annenberg (association with Ayers)? Access denied!

Exactly! And worse, if you go to [Link: www.votesmart.org...] and look up his Senate voting record, you will see that there are entire whole categories that he has never once voted on. Recorded as NV (which means, novote - either he voted present or was not there) across the board. Some of those categories and novotes are pretty disturbing. And there are over 100 of them in the short time he has been in the Senate.

By way of contrast, my openly socialist Senator Patrick Leahy has just ONE novote.

658 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:53:58am

re: #619 galloping granny

I heard about the Russians seizing the port policemen. They also towed the coast guard boat out into the harbor at blew it up. They are really going for a scorched earth policy ala Stalin.

And the U.S. is doing what, again?

659 seekeroftruth  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:54:11am

re: #613 aussiemagpie

Welcome back aussiemagpie!

660 David Simon  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:54:15am

re: #643 galloping granny

I don't think they are "itching to go to war" - I have said right along that my estimation of this is that it is an attempt to decapitate us, relieve us of our power, prestige and standing in the world. In other words, destroy us.

Agreed, and that's why I don't think they'd sign a mutual defense pact with Iran. They can cause enough mischief without committing themselves to defend Iran in case of attack.

661 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:54:17am

re: #650 realwest

Ah the lead sentence makes me think this is internal Ukrainian politics: "President Yushchenko of Ukraine accused his prime minister of committing "high treason" by not speaking out against the Kremlin during an escalating stand off with Russia.

The feud between the one-time allies over Ukraine's strategic outlook raised fears that Kiev is vulnerable to political chaos should Moscow hatch a campaign to destabilise a second pro-Western neighbor having humiliated Georgia."

This kind of infighting in the Ukraine is just the kind of thing the Russians want. It prevents them from allying with the US.

662 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:54:26am

re: #620 coz
Hey coz! How's things in cozland today?!

663 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:54:34am
664 Golem Akbar  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:54:44am

re: #646 Ben Hur

Palestinians slam Israel's 'revolving door policy' on prisoners

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA!

Oh, sorry....sorry.....


Kind of puts the prisoner release in a bit of perspective. Still, I want Omert and the rest of Kadima out.

665 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:55:06am

re: #655 JCM

I can understand the angst. If BHO get elected how long before the system gets yanked?

Before it even gets delivered.

666 JCM  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:55:48am

re: #657 galloping granny

Exactly! And worse, if you go to [Link: www.votesmart.org...] and look up his Senate voting record, you will see that there are entire whole categories that he has never once voted on. Recorded as NV (which means, novote - either he voted present or was not there) across the board. Some of those categories and novotes are pretty disturbing. And there are over 100 of them in the short time he has been in the Senate.

By way of contrast, my openly socialist Senator Patrick Leahy has just ONE novote.

You've got Leaky Leahy? That makes me feel better, I've got Patty (Osama built kindergartens) Murray! When Murray was running for local offices, she door belled my house, let me tell you, nobody is home. Great (D) Senator, she does what she's told.

667 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:55:57am

re: #664 Golem Akbar

The Palis invented the revolving door.

How many agreements did they sign to jail terrorists that walked out the FRONT door after a week.

668 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:56:00am

re: #660 David Simon

Agreed, and that's why I don't think they'd sign a mutual defense pact with Iran. They can cause enough mischief without committing themselves to defend Iran in case of attack.

I definitely do think that Russia is working in concert with Iran on this - and Syria.

669 lori lane  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:56:14am

re: #637 HoosierHoops

Lori: Back from your treadmill?
Are you working off the pizza from Motherbears on campus?

Ha. Yes, I'm back. Huff puff. Must admit that in the three years we've been here, we've not made it back to MB's. NICKS pizza...mmmm. Bruster's ice cream...mmm. Red wine. mmmm. :-p

670 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:57:08am

re: #637 HoosierHoops

Lori: Back from your treadmill?
Are you working off the pizza from Motherbears on campus?

HEY! She coulda taken my advice and shot the damn thing, ya know!

671 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:57:17am

re: #641 CIA Reject

You haven't heard from Zarqawi lately? Maybe that's because Paradise is Overrated.

672 CommonCents  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:58:37am

re: #646 Ben Hur

Palestinians slam Israel's 'revolving door policy' on prisoners

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA!

Oh, sorry....sorry.....

since the Annapolis peace conference in late November, Israel has released 788 Palestinians, but detained more than 3,700 others, among them 30 teenagers.

Only 30 teenagers? I've seen video of hundreds carrying AKs and wearing the standard Hamas pajamas. They should be so lucky they are only arrested. In my perfect world there wouldn't be any prisoners. That's probably why I'm unelectable.

673 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:58:41am

Will Cross Adorn Coca-Cola Cans This Christmas?

The crescent moon and star — yes, the same symbol featured on the flags of so many Muslim countries — is an internationally-recognized symbol of the Islamic faith in much the same way as the cross represents Christianity and the star of David Judaism. When I learned the symbol of the Islamic faith will appear on Coca-Cola packaging during Ramadan 2008, I found myself wondering whether or not the Atlanta-based soft drink maker will soon include the Christian cross and Jewish star of David in future holiday packaging designs targeting people of those faiths.

My call is NO.

674 lori lane  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:59:19am

re: #670 realwest

HEY! She coulda taken my advice and shot the damn thing, ya know!

Ha. Good suggestion, RW! :)

675 Golem Akbar  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:59:26am

re: #667 Ben Hur

The Palis invented the revolving door.

How many agreements did they sign to jail terrorists that walked out the FRONT door after a week.


Good point. Too bad they can't release the prisoners somewhere in the Arabian desert. From 40,000 feet.

676 aussiemagpie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 7:59:49am

re: #654 realwest

Hey there {Aussie} good evening to you (or is it early morning?!) hope you keep warm tonight!
And, btw, please check your e-mail!

Hi darls

Yes your email made me jump in again here! no more just lurking around

And it's almost 1am Wednesday morning

677 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:00:10am

re: #669 lori lane

Ha.

just saw your nic picture. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

kitty lizard.

nice.

678 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:00:12am

re: #646 Ben Hur Hey Ben, from your link: "The Palestinian Center for Human Rights," ROTFLMAO just at the title, nevermind their gibberish!

679 aussiemagpie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:01:12am

re: #659 seekeroftruth

Welcome back aussiemagpie!

Hi there, and thanks!

680 lori lane  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:01:25am

re: #677 ibmkeyboard

just saw your nic picture. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

kitty lizard.

nice.

meow. *blush*

681 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:01:32am

re: #611 CommonCents

My grandfather was in the 5th during the Big One (WWII). The way they handled the Japanese on the islands would have made them well suited for flushing out AQ and Talibs in the mountains.

There are currently 3 active and 1 reserve Marine divisions.

682 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:01:55am

Did you all see that comment from an Obama supporter up in the "revealing comment" link? The one that says -

The only tide there will be is if Sen. Obama is denied his POTUS, and that will be a crimson tide on the streets of america."

That sure reads to me like a direct threat of a violent attempt to overthrow the legally elected government of the United States of America. I hope arrests are going to shorty follow. Threatening violence is a crime.

684 runrabbitrun  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:02:04am

re: #635 galloping granny

As a follow up, if you look through the links you will find another story by a different researcher who has been trying to access the national Annenberg files, held at Brown. Those are "sealed" too.

Are the Annenberg files related in any way to the non-partisan campaign claim analysis site (Annenberg) FactCheck.org?

The reason I'm asking is that a few weeks ago, I noticed that the site didn't seem so 'non-partisan' anymore. The site's posts against McCain's speech/ad record seemed to tilt against Obama-negative posts about 3-1.

I checked at the end of last week, and the place seemed more balanced, but obviously, if FactCheck is affected or in the tank for Barry, someone with an editing background needs to be keeping an eye on it daily, as it would no longer be the reliable source for truth in advertising as it once was.

685 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:02:33am

re: #668 galloping granny

I definitely do think that Russia is working in concert with Iran on this - and Syria.

Yes, but without an agreement that makes Russia come to their aid when Israel beats the shit out of Syria and Iran (after Olmerde leaves).

686 David Simon  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:02:43am

re: #668 galloping granny

I definitely do think that Russia is working in concert with Iran on this - and Syria.

To provide weapons and behind the scenes support (ala what we did in the Russian/Afghanistan war), yes. To defend Iran overtly if we attack, I highly doubt it.

687 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:02:59am

re: #669 lori lane

Ha. Yes, I'm back. Huff puff. Must admit that in the three years we've been here, we've not made it back to MB's. NICKS pizza...mmmm. Bruster's ice cream...mmm. Red wine. mmmm. :-p

You folks ever go to the Irish Line?

688 JCM  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:03:02am

Russia seizes US vehicles

Russian soldiers today held blindfolded Georgian servicemen at gunpoint and commandeered US Humvees in a dramatic sequence of events in Poti, a key Black Sea port.
689 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:03:47am

re: #673 Ben Hur

Will Cross Adorn Coca-Cola Cans This Christmas?

My call is NO.

The day that a muslim symbol appears on coca-cola cans (note that even the Coke Santa is no longer in use) will be the very last day that a single molecule of coca cola - and minute maid (owned by coke) and anything else they own - passes the doorstep of the house or my lips.

/And we drink lots and lots of coke products.

690 CommonCents  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:04:08am

re: #681 lifeofthemind

There are currently 3 active and 1 reserve Marine divisions.

I know. That's a cryin ass shame too. We should have at minimum 5 active.

691 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:05:21am
692 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:05:31am

re: #689 galloping granny

The day that a muslim symbol appears on coca-cola cans (note that even the Coke Santa is no longer in use) will be the very last day that a single molecule of coca cola - and minute maid (owned by coke) and anything else they own - passes the doorstep of the house or my lips.

/And we drink lots and lots of coke products.


Come on granny..It's time to become part of the Pepsi generation..

693 Occasional Reader  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:05:42am

re: #683 Ben Hur

NATO: No Normal Relations With Russia Until Troops Withdraw From Georgia

"If you don't stop slapping me, I won't invite you to my birthday party."

694 coz  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:05:50am

Realgood, Realwest, realgood.

695 Iron Fist  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:06:11am

re: #656 aussiemagpie

Record lows? I blame Global Warming.

696 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:06:41am

re: #680 lori lane

meow. *blush*

HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH....just Bee-u-tiful!

697 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:07:18am

re: #671 lawhawk

You haven't heard from Zarqawi lately? Maybe that's because Paradise is Overrated.

LOL! - Classics of satire: the jihad meets "Office Space". We need a LOT more of that kind of stuff.

698 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:08:00am

re: #684 runrabbitrun

Are the Annenberg files related in any way to the non-partisan campaign claim analysis site (Annenberg) FactCheck.org?

The reason I'm asking is that a few weeks ago, I noticed that the site didn't seem so 'non-partisan' anymore. The site's posts against McCain's speech/ad record seemed to tilt against Obama-negative posts about 3-1.

I checked at the end of last week, and the place seemed more balanced, but obviously, if FactCheck is affected or in the tank for Barry, someone with an editing background needs to be keeping an eye on it daily, as it would no longer be the reliable source for truth in advertising as it once was.

That I do not know, though if they are owned by annenberg I would draw that conclusion. The annenberg (since dissolved) files that are being sought are directly related to Obama's time on the board of directors of annenberg and specifically his relationship with Pentagon bomber and notorious weatherman, Bill Ayers.

By the way, his tickets for Invesco look like the pic might have come from the same photo shoot as this one -
[Link: michaelschuyler.blogspot.com...]

There are other pics available of Ayers that are from this series, including one in black and white where he appears to be dancing on the flag.

699 CommonCents  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:08:21am

re: #683 Ben Hur

NATO: No Normal Relations With Russia Until Troops Withdraw From Georgia

OOoooooh! That's tough policy there. How about some frozen assets, divestment in Russian gas fields, giving the Georgians some real 'aid' that can melt Russian armor?

700 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:08:31am

re: #692 HoosierHoops

Come on granny..It's time to become part of the Pepsi generation..

I hate Pepsi. I'll just make my own rootbeer like we used to do.

701 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:09:10am

re: #682 galloping grannyUh, do you think someone should remind them that ALL Blacks (and certainly not all Blacks by any stretch of the imagination would riot or resort to violence) still only comprise roughly 11% of the American population?
If it, God forbid, should happen, I'd say let them burn down their own neighborhoods and leave the burned out building there for them to live with (a la
Watts in the California riots of the '60's).
I REALLY DON'T LIKE BEING THREATENED.

702 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:09:55am

re: #490 lifeofthemind

Dear Comrades and Members of Nato,

We appreciate your gesture and letter. When we can stop our laughing, pick some of our comrades off the floor, piss-out the fire we started with original letter, we will give you our considered response.

Love and kisses,

Vlad

P.S. We discover some previously unforeseen costs associated with our projected sales of gas & oil. Unfortunately it appears gas and oil this winter is going to be extremely expensive or to be bery, bery cold winter. New bill will follow also.

Your friend always.

703 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:10:44am

re: #658 realwest

And the U.S. is doing what, again?

See my #488

704 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:10:45am

re: #700 galloping granny

I hate Pepsi. I'll just make my own rootbeer like we used to do.

you know what is really good?
Sun Tea...mmmmmm

705 Ojoe  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:10:55am

re: #682 galloping granny

Did you all see that comment from an Obama supporter up in the "revealing comment" link? The one that says -

The only tide there will be is if Sen. Obama is denied his POTUS, and that will be a crimson tide on the streets of america."

That sure reads to me like a direct threat of a violent attempt to overthrow the legally elected government of the United States of America. I hope arrests are going to shorty follow. Threatening violence is a crime

hisPOTUS huh?

That's awful, the whole comment is awful.

I think it deserves a thread of its own, so I'm reporting my own comment here.

706 lori lane  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:11:11am

re: #687 HoosierHoops

You folks ever go to the Irish Line?

Yeah, the Irish Lion & Crazy Horse are good for outdoor seating. I don't think their food is all that, though. But sometimes you just gotta sit outside and sip. :)

707 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:11:13am

re: #701 realwest

Uh, do you think someone should remind them that ALL Blacks (and certainly not all Blacks by any stretch of the imagination would riot or resort to violence) still only comprise roughly 11% of the American population?
If it, God forbid, should happen, I'd say let them burn down their own neighborhoods and leave the burned out building there for them to live with (a la
Watts in the California riots of the '60's).
I REALLY DON'T LIKE BEING THREATENED.

I really don't like being threatened either. In fact, as many have discovered over the course of my lifetime, the very LAST way to get me to do what you want is to threaten me. On the strength of that one statement alone, I and many others I know would not vote for Obama if he was the last candidate on earth.

708 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:12:00am

re: #679 aussiemagpie

Hi there, and thanks!

Hi Ozian, have warm memories of Perth, Freemantle and Albany.

709 lori lane  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:12:23am

re: #696 Dizzy26

HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH....just Bee-u-tiful!

Thx. *sly kitteh grin*

710 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:12:25am

re: #704 HoosierHoops

you know what is really good?
Sun Tea...mmmmmm

We make quite a lot of that. I bought some loose tea from Amazon a couple of months back (you get a 6 pack) - Lady Grey. Like Earl Grey but with a hit of lemon and orange too. It makes wonderful iced tea.

711 runrabbitrun  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:12:56am

re: #698 galloping granny

That I do not know, though if they are owned by annenberg I would draw that conclusion. The annenberg (since dissolved) files that are being sought are directly related to Obama's time on the board of directors of annenberg and specifically his relationship with Pentagon bomber and notorious weatherman, Bill Ayers.

By the way, his tickets for Invesco look like the pic might have come from the same photo shoot as this one -
[Link: michaelschuyler.blogspot.com...]

There are other pics available of Ayers that are from this series, including one in black and white where he appears to be dancing on the flag.

Thanks! I read Kurtz' profoundly important article late last night and as far as lost records, this stinks like Rose.

I'm forwarding the info to my email list and radio/media, and I suggest that all lizards try to take some time to do the same.

712 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:13:03am

re: #683 Ben Hur
Well, at least until winter comes.
And btw, didja see this: "The Russians were described as crack and combat ready." Hmmm, weren't those the same guys who were wearing sneakers when they attacked Georgia? The crack and combat ready must be troops from the old Afgahnistan days - you remember, that 10 year war that the Soviet Union LOST?

713 lori lane  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:13:10am

re: #700 galloping granny

I hate Pepsi. I'll just make my own rootbeer like we used to do.

I'm with you, GG! Pepsi. *spits*

714 CommonCents  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:14:48am
NATO allies say they cannot have their usual relations with Russia as long as their troops are in Georgia, the latest episode in the Russian military's defiant occupation of the region.

Could they be a little more specific when they say Georgia? Does that include the "peacekeepers" in S. Ossetia and Abkahzia?

715 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:14:48am

re: #712 realwest

Well, at least until winter comes.
And btw, didja see this: "The Russians were described as crack and combat ready." Hmmm, weren't those the same guys who were wearing sneakers when they attacked Georgia? The crack and combat ready must be troops from the old Afgahnistan days - you remember, that 10 year war that the Soviet Union LOST?

Actually, I have seen later reports that state that the sneaker wearing dudes are "irregulars" from South Ossetia.

716 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:14:50am

re: #712 realwest

Well, at least until winter comes.
And btw, didja see this: "The Russians were described as crack and combat ready." Hmmm, weren't those the same guys who were wearing sneakers when they attacked Georgia? The crack and combat ready must be troops from the old Afgahnistan days - you remember, that 10 year war that the Soviet Union LOST?

I posted a link last week of a video of the Russian soldiers.

Very unkempt.

717 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:15:07am

re: #690 CommonCents

I know. That's a cryin ass shame too. We should have at minimum 5 active.


Reluctant to risk diluting an elite unit but I do think the overall armed forces need to double at the rate of 15% per annum for 4 to 5 years.

718 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:15:15am

re: #694 coz
I'm glad to hear it my friend! Sure liked your daily dose of information I othewise wouldn't have known about, too!

719 aussiemagpie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:15:20am

re: #695 Iron Fist

Record lows? I blame Global Warming.

Hi,and yes, global warming is causing our colder than usual August weather - we all know that don't we? I mean it's logical!

/

720 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:15:43am

As far as I know Coca Cola has done alot of advertising during Ramadan here in Turkey. Heck even Macdonalds and BK have special menus for the time. Dunno how affective it is. IU havent seen any special change in the markings on the bottles or cans.. except there is a promotion now where you can get different colored coke glasses by saving up bottlecaps. As for myself, I find that drinking more beer in honor of the moon god is called for.
Off topic but the wanna be jihadi-hezbollah supporting douchebag from Michigan only got 2 years probation! Let me see.. he's in cammies with a kalashnikov in the woods...they find jihadist literature on him and his website and all he gets is probation?! I want him deported. I ope the US isnt going the way of the UK .
Dearborn Medical Student and Hizbollah supporter caught with ak47 goes free

721 JCM  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:16:23am

Psychologists determine what it means to think 'green'

"We know how to change behavior and attitudes. That is what we do," says Yale University psychologist Alan Kazdin, association president. "We know what messages will work and what will not."

Fuck off, you mind bender. I take data over mumbo jumbo thank you very much!

722 lori lane  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:16:31am

re: #682 galloping granny

That sure reads to me like a direct threat of a violent attempt to overthrow the legally elected government of the United States of America.

That is why I'm soooo glad our daughter was ready to get out of Chicago this summer and move back here!

723 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:16:31am

re: #689 galloping granny

I'm a pepper myself (diet of course)

724 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:16:36am
725 cygnus  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:17:20am

re: #61 solomonpanting

New Zealand? Doesn't matter. You really can vote Democrat.

In Washington State, along with a bunch of dead people.

726 aussiemagpie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:17:43am

re: #701 realwest


Hi, goodness I must be tired - I read ALL BLACKS in your comment and immediately thought of the NZ Rugby team :-)

727 HoosierHoops  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:18:40am

re: #706 lori lane

Yeah, the Irish Lion & Crazy Horse are good for outdoor seating. I don't think their food is all that, though. But sometimes you just gotta sit outside and sip. :)


So i got a couple friends that go down that way and they are
calling me going ' come on down to the Irish line..' but now i know that they are saying is Irish Lion...too much beer i guess..

728 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:19:20am

re: #699 CommonCents

OOoooooh! That's tough policy there. How about some frozen assets, divestment in Russian gas fields, giving the Georgians some real 'aid' that can melt Russian armor?


Oh my G-d next they will resort to The Comfy Chair. The inhumanity of it all. I expect serious chin pulling and thoughtful persons deploring our lack of nuance.

729 Pyrocles  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:19:29am

Even if McCain should win this election in a landslide, there will be cries of "STOLEN!" for years. Obama and his followers already consider him the president. The remaining months are only a formality. They will go absolutely batshit crazy should their reality be interrupted.

re: #705 Ojoe

hisPOTUS huh?

That's awful, the whole comment is awful.

I think it deserves a thread of its own, so I'm reporting my own comment here.

730 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:19:32am

re: #682 galloping granny

Did you all see that comment from an Obama supporter up in the "revealing comment" link? The one that says -

That
sure reads to me like a direct threat of a violent attempt to overthrow
the legally elected government of the United States of America. I hope
arrests are going to shorty follow. Threatening violence is a crime.

You're misreading the Obaminion. By "Crimson Tide," he meant that scores of University of Alabama alumni will take to the streets, distributing copies of "Crimson Tide", starring Denzel Washington & Gene Hackman.

731 jorline  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:19:42am

re: #673 Ben Hur

Will Cross Adorn Coca-Cola Cans This Christmas?

My call is NO.

I agree with you Ben Hur...NO.

I'm glad I pulled Coke from my restaurants several months ago and put Pepsi in.

732 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:20:18am

re: #709 lori lane

If nothing goes right the rest of this wonderful day, that picture made it a beeee U- tiful one!

Thanks lori

733 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:20:24am

re: #720 baconeatingkaffir

As far as I know Coca Cola has done alot of advertising during Ramadan here in Turkey. Heck even Macdonalds and BK have special menus for the time. Dunno how affective it is. IU havent seen any special change in the markings on the bottles or cans.. except there is a promotion now where you can get different colored coke glasses by saving up bottlecaps. As for myself, I find that drinking more beer in honor of the moon god is called for.
Off topic but the wanna be jihadi-hezbollah supporting douchebag from Michigan only got 2 years probation! Let me see.. he's in cammies with a kalashnikov in the woods...they find jihadist literature on him and his website and all he gets is probation?! I want him deported. I ope the US isnt going the way of the UK .
Dearborn Medical Student and Hizbollah supporter caught with ak47 goes free

If Cocacola wants to issue a ramadan can in Turkey, which is primarily muslim by a very long shot, then that is their business. If they want to issue a can for Ramadan here, bearing a religious image, when they do not and never have done so for either Christians or Jews and when they have even discontinued Coke Santa as "too religous" - then we will have war and boycotts.

734 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:21:31am

re: #717 lifeofthemind
"need to double at the rate of 15% per annum for 4 to 5 years." Didja mean increase at the rate of 15% a year or double every year?
And we're having some difficulties recruiting troops now (largely due to the ongoing extended tours of duty that Troops are put through). I also don't know if we have the training facilities to do that.
But I'd sure love to see Army and Marines Corps troops go up at least 25% (net of those who retire or go off active duty) every damn year for the next 5 years, at least.

735 aussiemagpie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:21:42am

re: #708 lifeofthemind

Hi Ozian, have warm memories of Perth, Freemantle and Albany.

Yes a lovely part of OZ indeed! Did you make it over to the east coast?

736 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:22:43am

re: #733 galloping granny

If
Cocacola wants to issue a ramadan can in Turkey, which is primarily
muslim by a very long shot, then that is their business. If they want
to issue a can for Ramadan here, bearing a religious image, when they
do not and never have done so for either Christians or Jews and when
they have even discontinued Coke Santa as "too religous" - then we will
have war
and boycotts.

I barely survived the Cola Wars in the 1980s & have no desire to revisit that nightmare!

737 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:23:04am

re: #736 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I barely survived the Cola Wars in the 1980s & have no desire to revisit that nightmare!

"New Coke" right?

738 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:23:31am

re: #726 aussiemagpie
ROTFL! Get your mind off footy here, {aussiemagpie}! LOL!

739 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:24:13am

re: #729 Pyrocles

Even if McCain should win this election in a landslide, there will be cries of "STOLEN!" for years. Obama and his followers already consider him the president. The remaining months are only a formality. They will go absolutely batshit crazy should their reality be interrupted.

I'm beginning to think that Obama will lose really badly.
And open threats don't work for most Americans, either. Riots will set race relations back 50 years, minimum.

740 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:24:23am

re: #731 jorline

I agree with you Ben Hur...NO.

I'm glad I pulled Coke from my restaurants several months ago and put Pepsi in.

When are we having the Lizard Blowout at your place?

Tough call on boycotting Coke for me.

We boycotted Pepsi products when I was growing up because of the whole Arab Boycott BS.

741 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:24:45am

re: #734 realwest

"need to double at the rate of 15% per annum for 4 to 5 years." Didja mean increase at the rate of 15% a year or double every year?
And we're having some difficulties recruiting troops now (largely due to the ongoing extended tours of duty that Troops are put through). I also don't know if we have the training facilities to do that.
But I'd sure love to see Army and Marines Corps troops go up at least 25% (net of those who retire or go off active duty) every damn year for the next 5 years, at least.

Meant increase at the rate of 15% per annum until the forces have doubled. That should be sustainable. Pushing for more or faster growth risks not only facing financial and resource shortages but wasteful inefficiencies.

742 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:24:50am

re: #733 galloping granny

Gran, its just strange for me that people have to result to religion to sell stuff. We have "mekka cola" here as well as "zamzam cola" imported from the magic kingdom. Pepsi doesnt have the clout that coke does here but Iwish they would. I miss mountain dew.

743 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:25:45am

Naming my 56K ' Putergeezer'

37 minutes ago I started downloading 'stop the bullets' and it has 80% left to download... Scheisa!

744 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:25:47am
745 cygnus  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:25:58am

re: #651 Occasional Reader

In fact, our finest warrior has already volunteered. So not to worry.

Oh, puh-leeze! LOL!

746 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:26:04am

re: #735 aussiemagpie

Yes a lovely part of OZ indeed! Did you make it over to the east coast?


Never did. I was told that the East considers the West as more pro-American and less sophisticated.

747 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:26:39am

re: #743 Dizzy26

Naming my 56K ' Putergeezer'

37 minutes ago I started downloading 'stop the bullets' and it has 80% left to download... Scheisa!


Cancel.

Not worth your time.

748 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:26:39am

re: #721 JCM With respect, my friend, that's EXACTLY what advertising agencies do - they in fact do affect your choice of damn near everything these days!

749 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:27:02am
750 Kenneth  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:27:15am

re: #699 CommonCents

Maybe that's just for public consumption. To get NATO to actually do anything is a big deal. France & Germany don't want to antagonize Russia any further, but new NATO members like Poland, the Baltic republics, Romania & NATO hopeful Ukraine support much tougher response.

The Georgians need stingers & javelins, ASAP.

751 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:27:49am

re: #744 buzzsawmonkey

I've had more religious students of mine tell me that coca cola gives guns to the IDF, therefore they boycott it. Where the hell do they come up with thi garbage?

752 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:28:16am

re: #739 Kosh's Shadow

I'm beginning to think that Obama will lose really badly.
And open threats don't work for most Americans, either. Riots will set race relations back 50 years, minimum.

Obama's statements, his wife's statements and the good Reverend Wright have already set race relations back more than 50 years.

753 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:28:25am

re: #731 jorline Didja tell Coke WHY you did that? I mean if enough folks DO BITCH AND MOAN about Coke's P.C. attitudes, those attitudes will change as soon as their bottom line changes.

754 aussiemagpie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:28:38am

re: #738 realwest

ROTFL! Get your mind off footy here, {aussiemagpie}! LOL!

Footy is important! LOL!

755 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:28:53am
756 cygnus  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:28:56am

re: #666 JCM

You've got Leaky Leahy? That makes me feel better, I've got Patty (Osama built kindergartens) Murray! When Murray was running for local offices, she door belled my house, let me tell you, nobody is home. Great (D) Senator, she does what she's told.

And Seattle is still stuck with McDermott. I think he has a job for life there.

757 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:29:17am

re: #751 baconeatingkaffir

I've had more religious students of mine tell me that coca cola gives
guns to the IDF, therefore they boycott it. Where the hell do they come
up with thi garbage?

Pepsi?

758 Kenneth  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:29:23am

re: #724 buzzsawmonkey

You mean Blackwater, not Blackhawks.

759 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:29:55am
760 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:30:21am

re: #758 Kenneth

You mean Blackwater, not Blackhawks.

Both tough dudes - I would still rather have the Flyers as security, though.

761 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:30:34am
762 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:30:40am

re: #757 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I used to get RC cola when I was in Germany andother parts of Eastern Europe as well. Maybe they need to make a comeback. I also miss the old "Jolt" cola (twice the caffeine and twice the flavor) I used to drink during exam week in college.

763 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:30:45am

re: #743 Dizzy26

Naming my 56K ' Putergeezer'

37 minutes ago I started downloading 'stop the bullets' and it has 80% left to download... Scheisa!

If you really want to download something on dialup, first make sure you are actually dialed in to a 56K line - they are not all that speed, even if your computer is.

Over many years of maintaining a large website over dialup, I have found that the very best time to download is after midnight on Friday or Saturday night, east coast time. Set up your download and go to bed.

764 CIA Reject  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:31:03am

re: #721 JCM

Psychologists determine what it means to think 'green'

"We know how to change behavior and attitudes. That is what we do," says Yale University psychologist Alan Kazdin, association president. "We know what messages will work and what will not."


Strange, Josef Goebbels changed people's attitudes and behaviors, and he knew "what messages will work and what will not" too...

Fuck off, you mind bender. I take data over mumbo jumbo thank you very much!

Yeah, what you said!

765 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:31:04am

If the Turks are not cooperating then we need to rout an air bridge and se bridge from the Rumanian or Bulgarian coast over the Black Sea to Georgia. Fly right over the Russian blockade and dare them to shoot. We can do this.

766 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:31:14am

re: #739 Kosh's Shadow
"Riots will set race relations back 50 100 years, minimum." If they are sparked by Obama's losing the POTUS election fairly and squarely, at least 100 years.

767 David Simon  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:31:47am

re: #739 Kosh's Shadow

I'm beginning to think that Obama will lose really badly.
And open threats don't work for most Americans, either. Riots will set race relations back 50 years, minimum.

I hope you're right, but the fact that his political career isn't over - and it should be given what has been revealed about him - means that he has plenty of staying power. I'm afraid too many Americans are way too afflicted with multi-culti pc crapthink.

768 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:32:16am

re: #751 baconeatingkaffir

I've had more religious students of mine tell me that coca cola gives guns to the IDF, therefore they boycott it. Where the hell do they come up with thi garbage?


What do you teach?

I had a history prof (Jewish) what would be flown into a Turkish Uni to teach the History of Christianity. They had him teach the whole course in a week.

Zip in.

Zip out.

They feared a Christian prof teaching would be considered proselytizing.

769 runrabbitrun  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:32:17am

re: #730 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Re: 'Crimson Tide': It's the "denied his POTUS" bit I'm worried about too. That shows an absorption in unreality greater than I would have given even moonbats credit for.

770 jorline  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:32:39am

re: #740 Ben Hur

When are we having the Lizard Blowout at your place?

Tough call on boycotting Coke for me.

We boycotted Pepsi products when I was growing up because of the whole Arab Boycott BS.

My doors are always open for a Lizard Lunch.

If there's enough public dissatisfaction Coke will act...of course they may still sell it in Arabic countries...but not in the US. Tyson blinked because of the flack they caught from the Labor Day issue.

771 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:32:55am

re: #745 cygnus

great link.. and just had a Great idea--Put Hill & Bill on the front of a M..

oh never mind, just had an evil idea thought ...It's
passed now.../like hell it has:-)

772 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:34:09am

re: #741 lifeofthemind
" wasteful inefficiencies." What are you talking about?! We ramped up (with a draft, mind you) in 1968 and 1969 alone to more than double our troop strength. Seriously, I don't know what the heck you mean by wasteful inefficiencies?

773 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:34:19am

re: #747 Ben Hur

Wilco

thx

774 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:34:56am
775 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:35:03am

re: #768 Ben Hur

I teach ESL and dabble a bit in export.

776 aussiemagpie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:35:11am

re: #746 lifeofthemind

Never did. I was told that the East considers the West as more pro-American and less sophisticated.

LOL! No, the west coast is like another country! And it's just different - mainly because there's a great big desert between east and west and the nearist big city to Perth is Adelaide in the next state, a 3 hour flight away

777 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:37:10am

re: #763 galloping granny

If you really want to download something on dialup, first make sure you are actually dialed in to a 56K line

How? remember, not a real light bulb you're talking to here:-)

778 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:37:22am

re: #775 baconeatingkaffir

I teach ESL and dabble a bit in export.

Import/Export means one of three things in that part of the world.

Grey Market.
Mafia.
Drugs.

Which one are you?

779 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:38:00am

re: #755 buzzsawmonkey Hey buzz - with all due respect, I think statements like that are inappropriate out here.

780 JCM  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:38:35am

re: #748 realwest

With respect, my friend, that's EXACTLY what advertising agencies do - they in fact do affect your choice of damn near everything these days!

I know that's what they TRY! With the food issues in my house I read labels, every ingredient, then I look at unit cost. I had an uncle who worked in a cannery for some major brands, I learned to read can codes. Often the house brand sitting on the shelf next to the name brand were canned on the same processing line on the same day.

It's like recycling everyone is convinced recycling is "good" P&T nailed that one down, the economics and energetics of recycle are questionable at best.

I'm cranky and as I age getting crankier, my normal response to ads is a *snort* and "yeah right."

That said I have a stash of Old Milwaukee I keep opeingn up one at time waiting for the Swedish Bikini Team to show up.

781 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:38:56am

re: #769 runrabbitrun

Re: 'Crimson Tide': It's the "denied his POTUS" bit I'm worried about too. That shows an absorption in unreality greater than I would have given even moonbats credit for.

I've been commenting for quite some time now that Obama and many of his supporters really seem to believe that he is already the president in waiting, almost like we might as well not bother to have an election. He has actually come out with comments calling himself the president. Look at the fake presidential seal. And he has a throne in his newly painted (no American flag) plane that has a label on the head rest that read "Obamo 08 - newline - President"

782 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:39:00am

re: #778 Ben Hur

uh carpet?

783 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:39:07am

re: #759 buzzsawmonkey

That's probably because Coke did not observe the Muslim boycott of Israel.


Coca Cola Diplomacy is as easy as
One, Two, Three.

784 JCM  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:39:39am

re: #756 cygnus

And Seattle is still stuck with McDermott. I think he has a job for life there.



We have a Don Quixote tilting at that windmill.

785 realwest  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:42:41am

re: #780 JCM

That said I have a stash of Old Milwaukee I keep opeingn up one at time waiting for the Swedish Bikini Team to show up.


ROFL! And you owe me for a new monitor - coffee spewed all over the place, damnit!

786 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:43:26am

re: #777 Dizzy26

If you really want to download something on dialup, first make sure you are actually dialed in to a 56K line

How? remember, not a real light bulb you're talking to here:-)

If you look at the lower right corner of your screen, down next to where you get the time you should see a little icon illustrating a computer. Right click or just hover over it and it will say something like "connected 32 K". Note that you will never get the whole 56K - outlawed. If you are on a true 56K line you will get 30+ under most circumstances. Most ISPs actually have very few 56K lines though. More likely you will get something in the 20-24 or so range. In which case look for a differnt phone number for your ISP. If you go to their website, the lines should be labeled by speed, but if you got a number from a setup disk or over the phone, maybe not so much.

787 Occasional Reader  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:44:54am

re: #769 runrabbitrun

Re: 'Crimson Tide': It's the "denied his POTUS" bit I'm worried about too. That shows an absorption in unreality greater than I would have given even moonbats credit for.

It's one comment by one putz. I really wouldn't get too worked up about this. I very much doubt there will be civil unrest if when Obama loses. Not out of the question entirely, but unlikely, IMO.

788 jorline  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:45:40am

re: #753 realwest

Didja tell Coke WHY you did that? I mean if enough folks DO BITCH AND MOAN about Coke's P.C. attitudes, those attitudes will change as soon as their bottom line changes.

No, the reason I kicked them out had nothing to do with this issue...I didn't know about it at the time. As a small business owner Coke tried to mussel me on pricing. They were going to increase my price per box by $10 and told I couldn't buy from my suppliers anymore...just Coke USA. They gave me three choices.
1. Buy from Coke USA @ $10 more per case and I get to use all of the equipment provided by Coke.
2. Buy from my regular supplier at a better rate, but Coke USA would pull my equipment and I would have to buy new equipment.
3. Buy from Pepsi.

I told them to get the fu*k out of my restaurant and started using Pepsi the next week.

True story...Coke was playing the Russian game...buy from me or else.

Coke still comes in trying to get back the business...I'll have a new reason to say HELL NO next time.

789 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:45:54am
790 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:46:32am

re: #772 realwest

" wasteful inefficiencies." What are you talking about?! We ramped up (with a draft, mind you) in 1968 and 1969 alone to more than double our troop strength. Seriously, I don't know what the heck you mean by wasteful inefficiencies?

In '68 and '69 we had a deep bench in the form of an industrial base and training facilities designed to aid mass mobilization in the event of war. In 1940 to 1942 the army increased about 10 fold but that was a much less technically sophisticated force. Even then we started training with broomsticks instead of rifles or allowed deaths in training or in combat from ignorance that would not be accepted today. We can't do that now. We have stripped away the tools of mobilization over the last 20 years. We can expand but not at a break neck pace. Masses of troops who haven't been well trained by proper instructors and who do not have the right equipment would be worse than useless.

791 WriterMom  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:47:01am

re: #549 Golem Akbar

GOLEM. Ma nishma?

792 WriterMom  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:47:27am

re: #521 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That was so funny.

793 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:47:57am

re: #776 aussiemagpie

LOL! No, the west coast is like another country! And it's just different - mainly because there's a great big desert between east and west and the nearist big city to Perth is Adelaide in the next state, a 3 hour flight away


I was told the closest city to Perth was Singapore.

794 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:48:57am

re: #786 galloping granny

WOW..

I going to do exactly that...uh what you suggest... (Any one ever tell you you can really piss a guy off with that smarty pants, know it all shit stuff?

Oh....sorry, I asked how? didn't I

795 WriterMom  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:49:20am

re: #757 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The Iranians explained that the secret Zionist code for Pepsi was "please every penny send Israel" or something like that. Those Persians! So clever. How did they figure out the code?

796 aussiemagpie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:51:13am

re: #793 lifeofthemind

I was told the closest city to Perth was Singapore.

Adelaide people wouldn't like to be told that! They reckon they live in a city :-)

797 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:51:41am

re: #789 buzzsawmonkey

Ditto those sentiments my friend! Out of line, inappropriate or not!

And that for sure, that's for DANG sure!

798 runrabbitrun  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:53:21am

re: #781 galloping granny

I've been commenting for quite some time now that Obama and many of his supporters really seem to believe that he is already the president in waiting, almost like we might as well not bother to have an election. He has actually come out with comments calling himself the president. Look at the fake presidential seal. And he has a throne in his newly painted (no American flag) plane that has a label on the head rest that read "Obamo 08 - newline - President"

No question that with many Obamites there is a religious fervor infecting their enthusiasm - almost like a rapture. The spiritual, metaphysical narrative of Barry's sudden appearance on the political scene has the mythical nature of a nativity or redemption story (see Light-Worker) . There is little doubt that to many followers his election is superfluous, as The One has Divine Right.

799 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:54:22am

re: #796 aussiemagpie

I Have a couple of friends (e-mail list) living in Adelaide...Sounds like a beautiful little place.

800 geoffputerbaugh  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:54:30am

Singapore would probably be the closest city to Perth outside of Australia.

That Tony Enamel sure can play the guitar!

801 lifeofthemind  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:55:11am

New threads a slew of 'em

802 aussiemagpie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 8:58:50am

re: #799 Dizzy26

I Have a couple of friends (e-mail list) living in Adelaide...Sounds like a beautiful little place.

Hi there, and yes it's lovely It's called the city of churches too

It's also got the best vineyards not too far away in the Barossa Valley and the Coonawarra region

803 aussiemagpie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 9:00:20am

re: #800 geoffputerbaugh

Singapore would probably be the closest city to Perth outside of Australia.

That Tony Enamel sure can play the guitar!

Hi there

Indonesia's a bit closer

804 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 9:00:24am
805 cygnus  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 9:01:26am

re: #747 Ben Hur

Cancel.

Not worth your time.

Agreed. It's mostly scheisse, but it does have some cool slo-mo of apples, etc. being shot.

806 aussiemagpie  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 9:01:32am

Well it's time to check out all those new threads then before beddybyes!

807 galloping granny  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 9:09:25am

re: #794 Dizzy26

WOW..

I going to do exactly that...uh what you suggest... (Any one ever tell you you can really piss a guy off with that smarty pants, know it all shit stuff?

Oh....sorry, I asked how? didn't I

You Dizzy - FOAD

808 Cygnus  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 9:11:00am

re: #774 buzzsawmonkey

Here we go: Neckties which have Biblical texts written on them.

Proselyties™!

The self-aware neckwear with a smidgen of religion!

...if only anyone wore neckties any more.

There's also Wait Wear - for teens who are holding off until marriage (good!).

809 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 9:22:34am
810 lori lane  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 9:29:20am

re: #770 jorline

My doors are always open for a Lizard Lunch.

what kind of eating establishment do you have? If I may ask. :)

811 Dizzy26  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 9:31:41am

re: #807 galloping granny

All too soon m'dear (Only not a grandpappy ....yet...my son just can't settle down.

(hope you all y'all was funnin!)

812 jorline  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 9:54:38am

re: #810 lori lane

what kind of eating establishment do you have? If I may ask. :)

Best burgers you'll find...fresh and hot off the grill...no pre-made crap...100% beef w/ sweet potato fries, freedom fries and homemade onion rings. Grilled chicken sandwiches and salads.
The best is a Grilled Tilapia meal or sandwich. I grill the Tilapia in olive oil, seasoned with a spicy salt free spice and when finished we squeeze lime juice on it...served with my homemade Cilantro/Jalapeno Mayo with minced garlic.

We've take Best of the Best burgers three years in a row.

Thanks for asking...I got carried away...lol

813 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 10:02:29am
814 jorline  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 10:03:24am

re: #813 buzzsawmonkey

You are making me hungry. Very hungry indeed.

The more so since I assume this is nowhere near Brooklyn.

LOL...no, sorry. In Corpus Christi, TX.

815 lori lane  Tue, Aug 19, 2008 4:31:59pm

re: #812 jorline

Best burgers you'll find...We've take Best of the Best burgers three years in a row. Thanks for asking...I got carried away...lol

Yum! I see down thread where you're located. Too far away for me to enjoy :-(


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