Muscle flexing all over the world after Musharraf resigns?

Virulent Islam is more of a threat to the World than HIV.

Damn, busy morning already.

Obama wasn't looking. Doesn't count. Isn't evil. Move along, nothing to see here.

re: #1 jester6

Muscle flexing all over the world after Musharraf resigns?

You are giving one pretty unpopular man way to much credit.

Huffa puffa, huffa puffa - good *gasp* morning Charles *gasp*, huffa puffa - hope you're doing well today - say could you maybe slow down just a little on posting new threads PLEASE?!

re: #6 realwest

G'morning, Real. (:

religions/cult of murder death carnage body parts

mass murderers

Of course America loves them

osama Hussein 50% of Americas 7 yeara after 9.11 will elect him

Weak country
Weakness leads to destruction

And again. And yes, once again the Islamists slaughter innocents - most Muslims at that. That's a hallmark of the jihadis the world over. And sooner or later (sooner I hope) the rest of the Muslims will realize the folly of jihad and put it down themselves.

what in the hell is wrong with these people?

re: #10 lawhawk

And again. And yes, once again the Islamists slaughter innocents - most Muslims at that. That's a hallmark of the jihadis the world over. And sooner or later (sooner I hope) the rest of the Muslims will realize the folly of jihad and put it down themselves.

...............................waiting............ ......

re: #7 mglazer

Scientologists just dont get it - you got to kill people to get whites to give up

What?

RoP in Pakistan....
23 dead in Pakistan hospital suicide blast: police

A suicide bomber killed 23 people at a hospital in northwest Pakistan Tuesday, highlighting the militant challenge facing the government after the resignation of Pervez Musharraf.

In other violence in the wake of the US-backed president's decision to bow out on Monday, five soldiers and 13 Taliban militants were killed in a tribal region bordering Afghanistan.

The suicide attack happened as Shiite Muslims gathered to protest over the death of a man in a suspected sectarian attack in the troubled town of Dera Ismail Khan, said North West Frontier Province police chief Malik Naveed Khan.

Busy day.

re: #1 jester6

Muscle flexing all over the world after Musharraf resigns?

They didn't plan it, train the people, find the idiot suicide bomber, do all the intelligence work, and execute the plan all in one day.

re: #11 Shug

I think you already know.

re: #5 galloping granny
With all due respect galloping granny, Mush was the best ally the US could have had in Pakistan - not that he was effective in countering the jihadists, but he stood for countering the jihadists (see, e.g., the attack on the Red Mosque).
That our *spit* State Department didn't understand that is nearly a crime.
Pakistan's current state of non-government works PRECISELY into the Jihadists hands.

re: #2 Shug

Virulent Islam is more of a threat to the World than HIV.

whoa! Whoa! WHOA!

re: #8 laZardo Huffa puffa, good morning to you laZardo - how are you doing?

re: #11 Shug

what in the hell is wrong with these people?

If you examine Judaism/Christianity and islam, comparing them point by point as they are interpreted today, you will see that "allah" is literally the opposite of the Judeochristian G_d.

This affects their entire world view. What we call good is to them bad. What we think is bad or evil or sick is to them commanded by "allah." What we call "normal" psychology is to them highly aberrant - as their "normal" is to us.

re: #18 Ben Hur

whoa! Whoa! WHOA!

I don't know why, though.

re: #19 realwest

School term's almost over...so I'm having a reason to breathe a bit easier.

Now if I don't get suitcase-nuked before then I should be fine.

re: #5 galloping granny

No credit to Musharraf, but I kinda think he was viewed by many in that part of the world like the Shah of Iran. Whether folks were responding to his ouster or it is coincidental I really wonder. But I am sure they are celebrating all over Dar al-Islam now that our "puppet" has been deposed. His ouster is definitely a propaganda victory for them.

re: #17 realwest

With all due respect galloping granny, Mush was the best ally the US could have had in Pakistan - not that he was effective in countering the jihadists, but he stood for countering the jihadists (see, e.g., the attack on the Red Mosque).
That our *spit* State Department didn't understand that is nearly a crime.
Pakistan's current state of non-government works PRECISELY into the Jihadists hands.

I'm not disputing that realwest. And frankly I think that every single employee and "analyst" working for our "State" department should be fired. Musharraf has been in trouble for a long time - friend or not. And he did not have the kind of control over things that would even have allowed us to overtly prop him up. Truthfully, he should have gone several years back. Trying to be friendly with Musharaf has kept us from taking actions and saying things that would have far better served our interests.

re: #10 lawhawk
Good morning lawhawk! That's NOT pie-in-the-sky thinking, either. It was only AFTER the Iraqi people started to realize that the "freedom fighters" were killing mostly Muslims (of all types) that they started turning on the "freedom fighters". The ONE MAJOR requirement for fighting a successful guerrilla war is that the guerrillas MUST have the sentiments of more than half of the population on their side. The Taliban are doing their best to insure that never happens (and they sure as hell don't have it now, either).

re: #25 realwest

That means they're going to get desperate...and that's where it's all going to come down to that thin red line between justice and total destruction.

I suspect that same thing's happening in Iran. What few stories I've heard about the economic situation there are grave, and they just can't seem to completely wipe out the secularists from the Shah's days. Reform may be slow but it's starting to chip away at the Ayatollahs' foundations...and they recognize that and are afraid.

re: #10 lawhawk

And again. And yes, once again the Islamists slaughter innocents - most Muslims at that. That's a hallmark of the jihadis the world over. And sooner or later (sooner I hope) the rest of the Muslims will realize the folly of jihad and put it down themselves.

I hope that myself, but I also see two problems:

1) Jihad is simply too entwined with the actual religion. There are simply way too many verses in the Koran ordering Muslims to make armed Jihad against non-believers.

2) Muslim fatalism. If you are killed by a fellow Muslim, it's because Allah decided it was time for you to die. If you escape, Allah protected you. Nothing happens without Allah's direct intervention. (I just wish they'd apply it to Israel. Israel exists because Allah has caused it to happen.)

Do the islamists really want to get the Algerian army all riled up again?

Because it didn't work out so well for them the last time.

re: #24 galloping granny

I guess I am more pessimistic about our response.

I would prefer a weak guy trying to keep a lid on Pakistan rather then someone who does not really care about our concerns. American's have a very low tolerance for direct military action. We are not going to send troops into the Pakistani hinterlands anytime soon.

On the other hand, Americans do not pay attention to proxy wars because they are too abstract to understand. That is why we use people like Musharraf.

re: #25 realwest

my response from the other thread RW...I got tied up for a while...sorry for the delay.

re: #753 realwest

Didja tell Coke WHY you did that? I mean if enough folks DO BITCH AND MOAN about Coke's P.C. attitudes, those attitudes will change as soon as their bottom line changes.

No, the reason I kicked them out had nothing to do with this issue...I didn't know about it at the time. As a small business owner Coke tried to mussel me on pricing. They were going to increase my price per box by $10 and told I couldn't buy from my suppliers anymore...just Coke USA. They gave me three choices.
1. Buy from Coke USA @ $10 more per case and I get to use all of the equipment provided by Coke.
2. Buy from my regular supplier at a better rate, but Coke USA would pull my equipment and I would have to buy new equipment.
3. Buy from Pepsi.

I told them to get the fu*k out of my restaurant and started using Pepsi the next week.

True story...Coke was playing the Russian game...buy from me or else.

Coke still comes in trying to get back the business...I'll have a new reason to say HELL NO next time.

Looks like mglazer went postal.

re: #31 jorline

Looks like mglazer went postal.

He wasn't a Moby was he?

Can someone point me to the section of the Koran that tells the "servants of Allah" that police recruits are evil and must be killed. We heard the same stories out of Iraq last year. Why is it always police recruits lining up getting blown up? Just wondering....

re: #32 lifeofthemind

He wasn't a Moby was he?

may have been...As Dan Rowan use say at the end of each show...say goodnight Dick.

Algeria out of Iraq!

re: #6 realwest

Huffa puffa, huffa puffa - good *gasp* morning Charles *gasp*, huffa puffa - hope you're doing well today - say could you maybe slow down just a little on posting new threads PLEASE?!

LOL
Strap those running shoes on Real..we're in for a bumpy ride!

re: #34 jorline

may have been...As Dan Rowan use say at the end of each show...say goodnight Dick.

Glazer got the fickle finger.

To follow up comments from the thread below, my prayers for some of the bravest 43 men in Algeria.

So upsetting that these worthless, ignorant b@stards are killing the best men in the world. "How about we kill them, first?" /jaynecobb

If this would have been in Tikrit or Kabul we would have been had crawls zipping by and a reminder every thirty minutes on the tele.
Goes back to the middle ages. The mooslims only started killing the crusaders once they got bored killing other mooslims of indifferent sects. Maybe the Algerians are considered "low lying fruit".