That doesn't look like a good place to fall down in....

I ain't reaching for that.

what is the point?

Border fence!

The Ent on the left should open his eyes.

/and turn his frown upside down

I think I will take a nap.

(And thus deprive one of the poor of theirs because I'm a heartless Republican bastard.)

Pretty, pretty. Bet it is warm too. Never got warm here this year.

re: #3 buzzsawmonkey

"Reach, throw, row, go [with support]."

--the Boy Scout manual

IIRC :)

Spikey.

Amazing how nature provided these plants with protection like that, but what are they protecting? Rose bushes have thorns to keep the flowers untouched, but whats in these plants thats so valuable?

water?

I Can't Reach You

A prickly situation.

re: #12 Maximu§

Amazing how nature provided these plants with protection like that, but what are they protecting? Rose bushes have thorns to keep the flowers untouched, but whats in these plants thats so valuable?

water?

Exactly. Water. The spikes keep the desert wild life from eating the plant.

re: #16 galloping granny

Exactly. Water. The spikes keep the desert wild life from eating the plant.

I guess we know what to suck on if we're ever stranded in the desert....don't take that the wrong way Granny.

re: #14 buzzsawmonkey

Support if you can get it, of course. But you're only supposed to go as a last resort anyway.

I just remember chanting that at scout camp getting my lifesaving merit badge. Definitely the hardest one I ever had to get, by far.

Red Primer for Children and Diplomats

re: #12 Maximu§

...Rose bushes have thorns to keep the flowers untouched...

Not from goats. They absolutely *love* eating those thorny stalks. Made me shudder to watch it...

re: #17 Maximu§

I guess we know what to suck on if we're ever stranded in the desert....don't take that the wrong way Granny.

That is actually one thing they teach you in desert survival classes.

Century plants, and the old flower stalks of them.
Century Plant

Surfiing via my new Dell Inspiron 1720. Wow. This is a sweet machine.

Can't wait to watch a movie on it - 17.4" screen.

re: #26 buzzsawmonkey

here it is not in the box

[Link: fireflyforest.net...]

McCain response to Obambi ad

“Barack Obama’s ad is ridiculous. Because of John McCain, corruption was exposed and people like Jack Abramoff went to jail.
“However, if Barack Obama wants to have a discussion about truly questionable associations, let’s start with his relationship with the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers, at whose home Obama’s political career was reportedly launched. Mr. Ayers was a leader of the Weather Underground, a terrorist group responsible for countless bombings against targets including the U.S. Capitol, the Pentagon and numerous police stations, courthouses and banks. In recent years, Mr. Ayers has stated, ‘I don’t regret setting bombs … I feel we didn’t do enough.’
“The question now is, will Barack Obama immediately call on the University of Illinois to release all of the records they are currently withholding to shed further light on Senator Obama’s relationship with this unrepentant terrorist?” –McCain spokesman Brian Rogers

Thats gonna leave a mark!

I just pulled out about 10 century plants (that is the burnd remains of them) with a skidsteer about a week ago.

Understand you can make tequila out of them, but I don't know how. So they went in the dumpster.

isn't that the kind of plant used to make tequila?

Breaking at CNN : Ohio Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones has died

RIP

re: #31 karmic_inquisitor

Yes, RIP

We all go home

Lucky her

re: #23 buzzsawmonkey

Goes along with, "don't put lipstick on rattlesnakes."

re: #31 karmic_inquisitor

Breaking at CNN : Ohio Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones has died

Again?

/probably need the 48 hour rule on this one

re: #17 Maximu§

How's the household holding up?

re: #28 Typicalwhitey

McCain response to Obambi ad

Thats gonna leave a mark!

McCain has been very laid back and gentlemanly until recently - long enough to lull Obama to sleep and make him forget all about Maverick's "temper."

re: #29 karmic_inquisitor

I just pulled out about 10 century plants (that is the burnd remains of them) with a skidsteer about a week ago.

Understand you can make tequila out of them, but I don't know how. So they went in the dumpster.

i guess we need a margarita. lol

What? No sky-tankers?

re: #35 Killian Bundy

Again?

/probably need the 48 hour rule on this one

It's breaking on Fox as well. It's likely really happened. I don't see them going with it without some good proof now.

RIP

re: #35 Killian Bundy

Again?

/probably need the 48 hour rule on this one

No, no 48 hour rule required. She was on life support earlier. She had a cerebral hemorrage last night. The aneurism was located in a place that is completely inoperable, thus it could not be repaired. There was absolutely no hope of recovery for her.

The good news is that this is a pretty fast way to go.

re: #41 galloping granny

No, no 48 hour rule required. She was on life support earlier. She had a cerebral hemorrage last night. The aneurism was located in a place that is completely inoperable, thus it could not be repaired. There was absolutely no hope of recovery for her.

The good news is that this is a pretty fast way to go.

i'm always amazed at how fragile life can be. and just as often amazed at how resilient.

re: #29 karmic_inquisitor

I just pulled out about 10 century plants (that is the burnd remains of them) with a skidsteer about a week ago.

Understand you can make tequila out of them, but I don't know how. So they went in the dumpster.

This is how. You cut down the plants, beat the shit out of someone with them, take the money from their wallet and buy a bottle of tequila. Simple.

The fronds on a century plant are very fiberous. Natives in the San Diego area made rope/twine with the fiber.

BTW - when the plant sends up that stock, it dies few months after. But it has "pups" which are new plants that grow out from the periphery of the main plant. Removing one of these things is a big pain.

re: #44 karmic_inquisitor

"pups"

re: #42 nyc redneck

i'm always amazed at how fragile life can be. and just as often amazed at how resilient.

Me too. Brain aneurisms are tricky things though. Quite often there is nothing to be done.

re: #6 Killian Bundy

The Ent on the left should open his eyes.

/and turn his frown upside down

I see him too.

re: #29 karmic_inquisitor

I just pulled out about 10 century plants (that is the burnd remains of them) with a skidsteer about a week ago.

Understand you can make tequila out of them, but I don't know how why. So they went in the dumpster.

Fixed that one for ya.

re: #43 Walter L. Newton

This is how. You cut down the plants, beat the shit out of someone with them, take the money from their wallet and buy a bottle of tequila. Simple.

LOL.

I take it Putin makes Vodka the same way.

Here little puppy-come on, come on, you're so cute, yes yes, nice little pup.

(We got a new puppy, kids are happy, I'm happy.)

re: #49 karmic_inquisitor

McCain will be the only man to stand against Putin and beat the shit out of him! BO will shit in his pants!

re: #51 LEGION

McCain will be the only man to stand against Putin and beat the shit out of him! BO will shit in his pants!

BO is too nice to shit on anyone's pants.

/ ;)

bbl. School supply run.

i just dont think BO knows what he's getting into.

re: #54 str8outtamonongahela

i just dont think BO knows what he's getting into.

It's the United States of America.

re: #21 buzzsawmonkey

Sure, because unlike the merit badges for tracking birds or building something, someone else's life--and your own--could depend on knowing the right thing to do.

Yeah, that made it the most valuable as well, but I mostly remember it being very physically demanding. Treading water for long periods of time while trying to tie my pant legs together to fill them with air was no picnic.

The trunk on the left looks like an angry ent....

re: #6 Killian Bundy

The Ent on the left should open his eyes.

/and turn his frown upside down

Damn....I posted too soon....someone already beat me to the ent quote....(I LOVED the ents in LOR, I'm the only one in my house that watched those movies...or read the books for that matter)

re: #57 buzzsawmonkey

All puppies are wonderful.

They are, but the housebreaking is a challenge.
I remember those 2am runs down the deck stairs with the puppy on my arm. Sometimes ya just don't make it.

re: #54 str8outtamonongahela

i just dont think BO knows what he's getting into.

I agree. I think he is used to having the Chicago machine to back him up and being able to simply disqualify his opponents. He's never really run a real political campaign and McCain is a past master of the art, with some of the premier names in American politics running interference for him to boot.

Obama is SO way over his head.

re: #54 str8outtamonongahela

i just dont think BO knows what he's getting into.

No, no he doesn't. Fools rush in and all that...

re: #61 galloping granny

I agree. I think he is used to having the Chicago machine to back him up and being able to simply disqualify his opponents. He's never really run a real political campaign and McCain is a past master of the art, with some of the premier names in American politics running interference for him to boot.

Obama is SO way over his head.

Speaking of the Chicago machine...! ! !

Hehehe -

PUMA alert: “Massive” e-mail campaign to derail Obama at convention

re: #54 str8outtamonongahela

i just dont think BO knows what he's getting into.

He knows exactly what he's getting into: your wallet.

re: #54 str8outtamonongahela

i just dont think BO knows what he's getting into.

Here is I think one of the big reasons that things have brokrn down, Barry introduced race. Bad move, he is no longer inoculated from criticism because of his race. McCain will treat him like any other Marxist leaning Democrat.
The other bad move is that he has revealed too much of himself, "We are who we have waited for." "People of Berlin, people of the World."

The delusional , Messianic complex is now too clear.

But my favorite merit badge at camp, and of all, was archery. Had a few days to get a certain score to pass and didn't hit it until my last possible attempt on the last day.
See ya tomorrow lizards!

Dear Charles,

Please bring back the revolving titles?

Turtle on wheels. Nice story.

re: #64 galloping granny

Hehehe -

PUMA alert: “Massive” e-mail campaign to derail Obama at convention

From your link [my bold]:

Update (AP): Meanwhile, what’s Tony Rodham doing meeting with top McCain aides? (Sample quote: “Poor Hillary. You can pick you friends, but you can’t pick your family.”) New VP speculation: Hillary on both tickets!

re: #68 ryannon

Dear Charles,

Please bring back the revolving titles?

They've migrated to just above the Lizard Lounge link on the upper right.

re: #64 galloping granny

Hehehe -

PUMA alert: “Massive” e-mail campaign to derail Obama at convention

That is a beautiful thing1

re: #68 ryannon

Dear Charles,

Please bring back the revolving titles?

Still there but moved above the Lizard Lounge entrance...

re: #70 LeePro

From your link [my bold]:

Update (AP): Meanwhile, what’s Tony Rodham doing meeting with top McCain aides? (Sample quote: “Poor Hillary. You can pick you friends, but you can’t pick your family.”) New VP speculation: Hillary on both tickets!

They had quite the meeting. I posted a link to a full story about that earlier today. I think McCain is going to take Pennsylvania without any problem at all.

I guess this copper forgot he was no longer in his homeland.

Anybody hang in the Lizard Lounge these days?

Is it still a hotbed of malingering and sedition?

re: #69 Bobblehead

Turtle on wheels. Nice story.

/Dog on Wheels

More witty comments please.

re: #78 Ojoe

More witty comments please.

Yeah this is slow.

What's time to a lizard?

BBL

re: #79 opnion

Yeah this is slow.

It's the 5:00PDT slowdown. Allows us slow commenters to believe that we can post replies less than 100 comments away from the comment we are replying to.

I Can't Reach You:

re: #81 CyanSnowHawk

It's the 5:00PDT slowdown. Allows us slow commenters to believe that we can post replies less than 100 comments away from the comment we are replying to.

5:00 pm? It is almost time for bed here!

Imagine that you have heard the news of Stephanie Tubbs Jones?

I pray she is at peace. She never recovered from her aneurism.

re: #85 rightymouse

Imagine that you have heard the news of Stephanie Tubbs Jones?

I pray she is at peace. She never recovered from her aneurism.

Most aneurisms are not recoverable. All in all, it is not a bad way to go. Very quick and virtually no warning.

re: #81 CyanSnowHawk

It's the 5:00PDT slowdown. Allows us slow commenters to believe that we can post replies less than 100 comments away from the comment we are replying to.

Ah hah! A method!

re: #86 ploome hineni

they say where it was?

It was in her brain stem from what I heard ploome. Inoperable at any rate.

Evening all, stumbled across this and don't know what to think of it.

re: #91 ploome hineni

well, may she rest in peace

Amen

re: #90 BlueCanuck

Evening all, stumbled across this and don't know what to think of it.

It is an anti-democrat ad. Saw it a week or so ago. Not bad. I thought he had some good points.

LeePro - I'm sorry I didn't see your link in the spin off links! I even ran the url through the LinkViewer to make sure no one had linked the post already and nothing showed up. So sorry!

See ya,

The picture above is just a little creepy. It looks like several sets of giant alien pincers reaching for their next victim..

Well, I can see from the news that John McCain is thinking about select his friend Joe Lieberman. It is over on Power Line that I first read this. If McCain does that he can not win because Democrats know that only Hillary Clinton can beat John. So she will get the democrats position for president. John McCain knows he can not beat Hillary Clinton but he can be Barack Obama (BO). She will play dirty and he will not. He looses the competition for the President of the United States.

We have to elect as many conservatives in congress as we can to stop who ever get the presidency.

re: #86 ploome hineni

they say where it was?

No. Just that there hadn't been any brain activity.

Here's the Cleveland Plain Dealer link. Not much there.

And this one at Breitbart.

She was a super delegate too.

re: #87 galloping granny

Most aneurisms are not recoverable. All in all, it is not a bad way to go. Very quick and virtually no warning.

It's sad though. She was still fairly young. Not that much older than me. Scary.

Saw her once on a flight from D.C. to Ohio years ago. We were both in first class.

re: #92 opnion

Amen

I second that.

re: #96 Bobblehead

The picture above is just a little creepy. It looks like several sets of giant alien pincers reaching for their next victim..

Or are they guarding the super secret entrance to the underground nerve center of the LGF empire?

re: #97 Little Old Engineer

Powerline is talking about Pawlenty as the choice for Veep.

re: #97 Little Old Engineer

Well, I can see from the news that John McCain is thinking about select his friend Joe Lieberman. It is over on Power Line that I first read this. If McCain does that he can not win because Democrats know that only Hillary Clinton can beat John. So she will get the democrats position for president. John McCain knows he can not beat Hillary Clinton but he can be Barack Obama (BO). She will play dirty and he will not. He looses the competition for the President of the United States.

We have to elect as many conservatives in congress as we can to stop who ever get the presidency.

No, not at all. The democrats convention is next week. Obama is announcing his VP by Saturday of this week. John McCain is not announcing his VP pick until Aug 20 - the day after the the Democrat's convention is over. At that point, it will be too late.

And I'm not at all sure that McCain cannot beat Hillary too, She will not get the backing of Obama's supporters, there are a bunch of women who would never vote for her under any circumstances and she is dragging Bill along with her.

And don't worry - John McCain knows all about how to play hard ball. He has much more political experience than Hillary does you know.

re: #99 rightymouse

It's sad though. She was still fairly young. Not that much older than me. Scary.

Saw her once on a flight from D.C. to Ohio years ago. We were both in first class.

She was fairly young, but aneurisms are most common among the "fairly young." I guess I have just seen so many die so young that I have become somewhat fatalistic. When it is your day, it is your day.

Is an aneurism the same thing as a stroke?

re: #106 galloping granny

She was fairly young, but aneurisms are most common among the "fairly young." I guess I have just seen so many die so young that I have become somewhat fatalistic. When it is your day, it is your day.

When I go, I'd want it to be like that. No suffering.

re: #105 buzzsawmonkey

My father went in for "routine" open heart surgery. They ignored his aneurism, which burst when they started his heart up again--fortunately, before they'd closed his chest. They were able to save him, but he was in a coma for six weeks, and we were warned to expect him to be a vegetable if he came out of it.

Fortunately, he did come out of it--and recovered about 85% capacity. So we had him, or most of him, with us for another 3 years.

Aortic aneurism I presume? My dad had one of those too. My mother had brain aneurisms.

I'm convinced that doctors really know almost nothing about what or will not make someone a vegetable.

re: #110 galloping granny

Aortic aneurism I presume? My dad had one of those too. My mother had brain aneurisms.

I'm convinced that doctors really know almost nothing about what or will not make someone a vegetable.

The brain is a highly complex and little understood organ, so that is not terribly surprising.

re: #105 buzzsawmonkey

My father went in for "routine" open heart surgery. They ignored his aneurism, which burst when they started his heart up again--fortunately, before they'd closed his chest. They were able to save him, but he was in a coma for six weeks, and we were warned to expect him to be a vegetable if he came out of it.

Fortunately, he did come out of it--and recovered about 85% capacity. So we had him, or most of him, with us for another 3 years.

My Dad died 5 years ago from an aortal aneurism. He bled out twice, they replaced his blood twice, stopped the bleeding. They told us he had about a 2 percent chance of making it through the night.

They induced a coma. He made it through the night. The next day, his kidneys started to function, and liver, he could breath on his own if they wanted him too, but they saw no functional brain activity.

He had a DNR request with the hospital, but they still asked me to make the decision, of course, I did.

Aneurism's are a silent killer. Most of the time if they find one ahead of time, it's only because they were looking for something else.

re: #109 ploome hineni

a stroke is a symptom

an anyeurism is one cause of stroke

My boss had a stroke when he was 80. He survived but never recovered all of his speech and his short-term memory is not very good. That was eight years ago. Comes to work every day.

re: #107 rightymouse

Not really. An aneurysm is caused when the vascular walls weaken and your blood pressure forces blood out of the vessel and it creates a sort of balloon. When it ruptures, you start bleeding out unless there is a way to stop the blood loss. George C Scott and Harvey Korman died of abdominal aneurysms. Rep. Tubbs had one, I believe in her brain.

A stroke is cause by a blood clot or other blockage that stops the flow of blood to the brain.

re: #103 Noam Sayin'

Powerline is talking about Pawlenty as the choice for Veep.

Pawlenty is about as safe and boring as it comes. Unfortunately, I'm not sure who would be better. Even I am mildly bored by looking at two country-club white guys as the ticket.

re: #111 ploome hineni

...new spelling for aneurysm

:P

I saw that in the news reports and had never seen it spelled that way before. :)

re: #107 rightymouse

Is an aneurism the same thing as a stroke?

It's a weak spot in major veins or the aortal system. It can burst and you internally bleed out. It's rare to survive.

re: #109 ploome hineni

a stroke is a symptom

an anyeurism is one cause of stroke

Not exactly. Sometimes people (including doctors) call aneurisms strokes, but that is not quite right.

A classic stroke happens when one of the arteries to your brain becomes blocked, shutting off the oxygen to your brain.

An aneurism is caused by a weak spot in your blood vessel - similar to a weak spot in a tire. Sometimes that weak spot can let go, leaking blood into the area where the aneurism is located. Brain aneurisms are fairly common, as are aneurism of the aorta - the big artery coming off your heart. Aortic aneurisms are caught & repaired fairly often. Brain aneurism not so commonly diagnosed before they burst.

re: #110 galloping granny

I'm convinced that doctors really know almost nothing about what or will not make someone a vegetable.

Listening to Air America (if it is still on the Air?)

Sorry- could not resist.

re: #114 rightymouse

My boss had a stroke when he was 80. He survived but never recovered all of his speech and his short-term memory is not very good. That was eight years ago. Comes to work every day.

That kind is invariably the lack of oxygen to the brain sort. Oddly enough , there is a huge difference in recovery rates of this kind between men and women. Men tend to use mainly one side of their brains, so what they lose in this kind of stroke is pretty much gone. Women, on the other hand, tend to use both sides of their brain. They often have a complete or near complete recovery from this kind of stroke.

re: #115 calcajun

Not really. An aneurysm is caused when the vascular walls weaken and your blood pressure forces blood out of the vessel and it creates a sort of balloon. When it ruptures, you start bleeding out unless there is a way to stop the blood loss. George C Scott and Harvey Korman died of abdominal aneurysms. Rep. Tubbs had one, I believe in her brain.

A stroke is cause by a blood clot or other blockage that stops the flow of blood to the brain.

Ok - that makes sense. My boss had a blood clot in the brain that caused his stroke.

re: #90 BlueCanuck

Excellent and right on target...

re: #110 galloping granny

I'm convinced that doctors really know almost nothing about what or will not make someone a vegetable.

Ask Alan Colmes, he knows.

re: #118 Walter L. Newton

It's a weak spot in major veins or the aortal system. It can burst and you internally bleed out. It's rare to survive.

The human body can be so complex and sturdy yet so fragile at the same time.

re: #115 calcajun

Not really. An aneurysm is caused when the vascular walls weaken and your blood pressure forces blood out of the vessel and it creates a sort of balloon. When it ruptures, you start bleeding out unless there is a way to stop the blood loss. George C Scott and Harvey Korman died of abdominal aneurysms. Rep. Tubbs had one, I believe in her brain.

A stroke is cause by a blood clot or other blockage that stops the flow of blood to the brain.

The intercranial does two things, one the area of brain downstream of the rupture is deprived of blood (bad) the bleeding in to the brain raises intercranial pressure which damages the entire brain (worse). If pressure rises too much it start to squeeze the brain stem, breathing and heart control, out through the foramen magnum, the hole at the bottom of the skull the spinal cord exits through (worst).

re: #127 Walter L. Newton

Ask Alan Colmes, he knows.

He is something isn't he. I think (hope?) he means to be nice enough, but I find him really off-putting.

re: #131 galloping granny

I just find him off-putting. Period.

re: #130 jcm

You forgot to add that it all happens very fast--depending on how big the rupture is. Some people are dead before they hit the floor.

re: #131 galloping granny

He's got a job to do, and he does it rather well. He stands up to Hannity and he goes after the conservative guests just as he is suppose to.

re: #94 seekeroftruth

LeePro - I'm sorry I didn't see your link in the spin off links! I even ran the url through the LinkViewer to make sure no one had linked the post already and nothing showed up. So sorry!

Of course you are referring to this (posted by LeePro Aug 20, 2008 at 3:36:20 pm) and this (posted by seekeroftruth Aug 20, 2008 at 4:21:09 pm). Probably not your fault, seeker. Charles's url-duplicate-catcher shoulda caught it — didn't! Reported my own comment in your link, so hopefully Charles or Stinky will catch and fix it>

We should note that this proves two things:
1. The Link duplicate thingy is broken
2. You and i are both brilliant news-catchers!

;D

re: #123 galloping granny

That kind is invariably the lack of oxygen to the brain sort. Oddly enough , there is a huge difference in recovery rates of this kind between men and women. Men tend to use mainly one side of their brains, so what they lose in this kind of stroke is pretty much gone. Women, on the other hand, tend to use both sides of their brain. They often have a complete or near complete recovery from this kind of stroke.

He's an amazing man. Very proud. On the days that his speech is not so good, he just goes home rather than letting anyone see him that way. I know him well enough that he can say a few words and I can fill in the blanks. Still, it's horribly frustrating for him.

Being a man, the memory thing is sort of business as usual. :)~

re: #132 ploome hineni

lol

did you try the Mint tea?

No, any sort of food, drink, whatever, causes the bowels to move and that's what help the intestine poke through the weak spot in the abdominal wall. As it is, I am trying to eat only once or twice a day becuase it can get so uncomfortable for 15-20 minutes.

The pain is not caused by gas or indigestion or anything like that. It's purely have a physical part of you body trying to squeeze itself through a soft spot, which twists it, piches it and so forth.

Think of it as if you are trying to poke a sausage into a balloon. (that sounded sexy)

re: #134 ploome hineni

linky

not that wikipoo is the ultimate authority, but it was easily found

If you want medical answers, see MedLine rather than Wiki. The general medical understanding is as I said. I did preface that with the statement that often "stroke" was used as a catch all.

/sorry if I am snippy. I dealt very intimately with an historic aneurism patient for a decade. I've forgotten more about them than many medical texts know.

You also don't want to get me started on cavernous hemangioma.

re: #136 calcajun

I know, but he comes off as the typical liberal/leftie more interested in taking cheap shots at Bush or conservatives while going out of his way to remain silent regarding thugs like Chavez, Mugabe or Putin.
Unless they can somehow be used as a club to beat Bush, McCain or conservatives with.

re: #135 calcajun

You forgot to add that it all happens very fast--depending on how big the rupture is. Some people are dead before they hit the floor.

My dads belly had so much blood inside of his body, it looked like he had a basketball in there, just like those starving baby pcitures we have seen, with the distended stomach.

re: #138 rightymouse

He's an amazing man. Very proud. On the days that his speech is not so good, he just goes home rather than letting anyone see him that way. I know him well enough that he can say a few words and I can fill in the blanks. Still, it's horribly frustrating for him.

Being a man, the memory thing is sort of business as usual. :)~

My grampa had this kind of stroke. He never again could say anything in front of most of us other than "gawdammit!" - but he and my little daughter would go away in the other room and play with the telephone where he thought we couldn't hear him. Every word to her was just fine. Gosh I miss him.

re: #140 Walter L. Newton

No, any sort of food, drink, whatever, causes the bowels to move and that's what help the intestine poke through the weak spot in the abdominal wall. As it is, I am trying to eat only once or twice a day becuase it can get so uncomfortable for 15-20 minutes.

The pain is not caused by gas or indigestion or anything like that. It's purely have a physical part of you body trying to squeeze itself through a soft spot, which twists it, piches it and so forth.

Think of it as if you are trying to poke a sausage into a balloon. (that sounded sexy)

You have a hernia? It's in-and-out surgery these days. Hubby had his hernia fixed last year.

re: #143 ploome hineni

if the contents of your bowels are more watery, they will not clog up in the loop

drink lots

who is advising you?

Alan Colmes!

re: #147 ploome hineni

sorry to contradict you, it is my profession

relax

Mine too.

re: #139 ploome hineni

Hannity does the same things; it's the nature of the format of the show. Each are gracious to the guests who share their point of view and each confront the guests who do not. That's the way many political talk-show hosts run their show, at least from what I have seen. The only one I recall who did not always do that was Russert.

re: #147 ploome hineni

re: #149 galloping granny

Uh oh, medical professional face-off, to the ring with the two of you! LOL!

re: #143 ploome hineni

if the contents of your bowels are more watery, they will not clog up in the loop....drink lots....who is advising you?

My primary care doctor. They told me to eat lots of fiber based food (which I already do), watch my physical activity (no kidding), lay prone if it starts poking and massage it back down. All of what I am doing.

Funny, they never mentioned drink plenty of liquids. I do drink about 5-6 diet drinks a day.

re: #142 Zombie_Killian

Again, he has to be there to balance out Hannity. Otherwise, Fox would earn its reputation of being a right-wing echo chamber. He can be grating, I know. But, he has role to play; it's his job.

OT....
Do not flash the Bikini Baristas!

re: #150 calcajun

Hannity does the same things; it's the nature of the format of the show.

What you say is true but I sense that there are times when Alan does not really believe what he is spouting and does it only to counter Hannity. JMHO.

re: #61 galloping granny

Obama is SO way over his head.

Deep down inside I wonder if he knows that.

Everyone,

You should see MY Green Thumb for Cactus and Mini-Bamboo. Wonder if I can make my own "Ta-Kill-Ya" from the Cactus Juice?

-S-

re: #146 rightymouse

You have a hernia? It's in-and-out surgery these days. Hubby had his hernia fixed last year.

It's been the talk of LGF (thanks to my complaining about it here). I know about the surgery, had one 20 years ago. But then, after they found it, I was in and out in 24 hours.

This time, I spent 6 months telling the doctor that I thought I had one, took him three tries, three different visits over 6 months to find it.

That was two weeks ago. Surgery consult is Monday. And then, I don't know how long it will be until the scedule the actual surgery.

I hope they get this all fixed befoire mid-Sept. Our next show is a complicated one, and I can't be away from my job. I can take time off for our current show because the tech control could be run by a hamster.

Hey y'all - come take a look at Denver's new tattoo parlor
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re: #154 ploome hineni

You don't watch much other than Fox, do you. Here's a list;

Chris Matthews
Lou Dobbs
Keith Olbermann
Anderson Cooper
Matt Lauer
Harry Smith
Wolf Blitzer
Charlie Gibson

I'm no big fan of Colmes, but he makes no pretense as to which side of the fence upon which he is sitting.

re: #156 ploome hineni

diet drink are horrible... throw them out... mint tea

Can I brew it into an iced tea, will that hurt anything? Because I'll go get some right now.

re: #159 GeeWiz

I'd agree. I get the sense that both of them do it. It's like when they ask a loaded question just to give the guest an opportunity to ramble.

Reach (a Little Bit Higher)

re: #158 jcm

OT....
Do not flash the Bikini Baristas!

Whhhhat!?

Since when do bikini clad women serve coffee in drive throughs!?

How the mighty have fallen LOL!

re: #160 lori lane

Deep down inside I wonder if he knows that.

Deep down inside I doubt if he does. He is too full of himself.

re: #166 ploome hineni

Well, you are in luck. There's a new L&O spin-off; Law & Order--Fashion Squad.

re: #154 ploome hineni

Hannity has his limitations, but no one... no one... is quite as repulsively disingenuous and blind as Colmes

If he isn't doing it on purpose, sort of an act, then I would think that he has a mental problem. Really. I've watched him, he can't be for real, or at least for his sake, I hope not.

re: #160 lori lane

Deep down inside I wonder if he knows that.

"lo-lane" -

Sen. Obama is, bottom line, NOT a stupid guy. He is seeing his election slipping away from him. He will do what has to be done to enhance his electability.

-S-

re: #158 jcm

Someone should tip that girl. She did her job in making the customer hot & wet.

re: #171 ploome hineni

whtsamatta you?

Mint tea, little sugar if you want a small slice of lemon

and tof course you can try it cold

but it is wonderful hot

and soothing to the bowels if it is warmer

Ok, you sold me. BBL, I'm going to King Soopers next store and get a box.

re: #167 calcajun

I'd agree. I get the sense that both of them do it. It's like when they ask a loaded question just to give the guest an opportunity to ramble.

Bingo!

re: #162 Walter L. Newton

It's been the talk of LGF (thanks to my complaining about it here). I know about the surgery, had one 20 years ago. But then, after they found it, I was in and out in 24 hours.

This time, I spent 6 months telling the doctor that I thought I had one, took him three tries, three different visits over 6 months to find it.

That was two weeks ago. Surgery consult is Monday. And then, I don't know how long it will be until the scedule the actual surgery.

I hope they get this all fixed befoire mid-Sept. Our next show is a complicated one, and I can't be away from my job. I can take time off for our current show because the tech control could be run by a hamster.

We have a hernia surgery center in the Cleveland area - you're in and then out right after surgery. Here's info on the center. His method is unique. Recovery time was about two weeks - mostly walking. The incision was in the navel.

re: #174 Walter L. Newton

Are you saying that H&C is the intellectual equivalent of professional wrestling? :)

re: #171 ploome hineni

whtsamatta you?

Mint tea, little sugar if you want a small slice of lemon

and tof course you can try it cold

but it is wonderful hot

and soothing to the bowels if it is warmer

i require a peanut butter cookie w/ my mint tea.
or a brownie. or a lemon bar, or maybe a oatmeal raisin cookie.
or a butter cookie or two.

All hat, no cattle.

re: #180 calcajun

Are you saying that H&C is the intellectual equivalent of professional wrestling? :)

Buzzzzzzz. Hannity is no intellect either. If someone moves him off his mental script, he can't handle it. I really think Fox knew just what they were doing putting those two together, and both H&C don't realize what kind of idiots they come across as.

re: #163 FrogMarch

Boy, that looks secure! Looks like they are going to have a moonbat support group hug fest the way the chairs are set up. Just needs a few yoga mats to round it off.

re: #181 nyc redneck

i require a peanut butter cookie w/ my mint tea.
or a brownie. or a lemon bar, or maybe a oatmeal raisin cookie.
or a butter cookie or two.

Ok, I was just getting ready to go get some. Should I get the snacks too!

re: #169 rlevitin

Whhhhat!?

Since when do bikini clad women serve coffee in drive throughs!?

It's been the thing in the Seattle area for a while. A few were strings and pasties. Some jurisdictions are applying adult entertainment rules to them.

re: #181 nyc redneck

I've been growing my own tea for a few years now. It's great and for my $50 investment I haven't bought coffee or tea for about 3 years.

re: #182 jcm

Hilarious

my son will be in the I.D.F. thursday (i mentioned it late on a earlier thread) it is a religous unit nachal Charadede. combat unit.

i am proud but a little worried normal reaction of a father i think.

re: #182 jcm

Heh.

re: #185 Walter L. Newton

Ok, I was just getting ready to go get some. Should I get the snacks too!

oh no, not if it's too much trouble. but do try the mint tea. ploomie is right abt. the soothing factor. and even better, is mint tea from fresh picked mint leaves.
just heavenly.
:)

Looks like the gloves are coming off.

Will Obama release Ayers records?

“The question now is, will Barack Obama immediately call on the University of Illinois to release all of the records they are currently withholding to shed further light on Senator Obama’s relationship with this unrepentant terrorist?” —McCain spokesman Brian Rogers

I'm making popcorn. Anyone want any?

re: #183 Walter L. Newton

Hannity, actually, tend to get on my nerves more than Colmes. His incessant attempts to steer guests to his point of view with his "But don't you think..." questions sometimes rubs me the wrong way.

re: #187 Killgore Trout

I've been growing my own tea for a few years now. It's great and for my $50 investment I haven't bought coffee or tea for about 3 years.

what kind of tea? herbal?
do you drink coffee?

re: #193 razorbacker

Looks like the gloves are coming off.

Will Obama release Ayers records?

I'm making popcorn. Anyone want any?

Extra butter please. This is going to be interesting.

Going on a mint tea run. Be back later. And I'm going to splurge and buy a really good brand instead of the cheapest stuff (like I tend to do).

I expect to be up on LGF all night with a caffine rush.

I dunno why but I have just had to re-set my password.

I hope no-one has hacked my account and thrown foul mouthed left wing insults at my lizard collegues.

Lots going on at Camp Pendleton the last 2 days - helicopters and plenty of ordinance practice. About as much as I've ever heard the last 2 hours - just quieted down. Maybe a dinner break.

re: #195 nyc redneck

I gave up coffee when I started growing my own tea. All the different kinds of tea come from the same plant. The leaves are just processed differently.

re: #184 CapeCoddah

Boy, that looks secure! Looks like they are going to have a moonbat support group hug fest the way the chairs are set up. Just needs a few yoga mats to round it off.

That's what I was thinking. It looks so tame and minimum security. Laughable that the anarchists are afraid of a little mini-high-school detention center.

re: #194 calcajun

Hannity, actually, tend to get on my nerves more than Colmes. His incessant attempts to steer guests to his point of view with his "But don't you think..." questions sometimes rubs me the wrong way.

They both get on my nerves and I'm beginning to watch them less and less, choosing an early bedtime instead.

re: #193 razorbacker

Looks like the gloves are coming off.

Will Obama release Ayers records?

I'm making popcorn. Anyone want any?

The MSM will ignore it like the rest. Only the TWP bitter and clingy will harp on it and be dismissed as racist.

re: #201 FrogMarch
It looks like a stage prop.

re: #187 Killgore Trout

I've been growing my own tea for a few years now. It's great and for my $50 investment I haven't bought coffee or tea for about 3 years.

What kind of tea are you growing?

re: #195 nyc redneck

Camellia sinensis

re: #193 razorbacker

Looks like the gloves are coming off.

Will Obama release Ayers records?

I'm making popcorn. Anyone want any?

Those records are guarded along with John Kerry's military medical records.

re: #204 CapeCoddah

It looks like a stage prop.

It's Abu Ghraib!
/

re: #205 rightymouse

They all come from the same plant (see 195)

Cup Of Brown Joy

re: #174 Walter L. Newton

If he isn't doing it on purpose, sort of an act, then I would think that he has a mental problem. Really. I've watched him, he can't be for real, or at least for his sake, I hope not.

"Newt" -

I truly prefer to believe that Alan Colmes' "SHTICK" is an act. How else could you eat Thanksgiving Dinner with your Sister-in-Law - MONICA CROWLEY?

-S-

re: #206 Killgore Trout

Camellia sinensis

do you grow it indoors?

re: #163 FrogMarch

Heh. That article says if there are mass arrests.

There will be mass arrests. It's not a matter of if. It's when and how many. The anarchists are plotting. The ultra-leftists are planning. They're going to have a grand old time raising a ruckus and doing what they usually do (a wee bit of the old ultraviolence).

As for the facilities, methinks that a few of them will have seen the inside of County lockup, so these facilities are not going to be all that imposing.

re: #197 Walter L. Newton

Going on a mint tea run. Be back later. And I'm going to splurge and buy a really good brand instead of the cheapest stuff (like I tend to do).

I expect to be up on LGF all night with a caffine rush.

Oh dear, Walter. I think ploome meant for you to get pure mint tea (not mixed with black caffeinated tea).

Good evening, Lizards.

(tapping foot impatiently) WHERE is pre-Boomer Marine brat?

re: #193 razorbacker

You really think those records are still around? This is Chicago we're talking about... things happen. Records disappear. Kind of like all of Obama's legislative papers. Poof! Gone.

Where'd they go? Where'd what go? /see what I mean

re: #213 nyc redneck

Nope. It handles the winters just fine even on very cold years.

So ploome hineni is a doctor?

Well that explains the disdain for the principles of capitalization... I bet your hand-writing is appalling.

:)

The flake has a genius for discovering solutions at perfect right angles to the ordinary world. It's as if he's the product of a totally different evolutionary chain, in a universe where the laws are slightly but distinctly at variance to ours. When given a choice between left and right, the flake goes up -- if not through the 8th dimension. And although there's plenty of rationalization, there's never a logical reason for any of it. After awhile, people stop asking..[Link: www.americanthinker.com...] helping cheer me up, fingers and toes crossed

re: #190 yochanan

Bless your son.

My great nephew, already in the USMC, is transferring to a Marine Special Operations Battalion. We are all proud and a little nervous about it as well.

A caption for the picture - Cthulhu rises.

re: #207 FrogMarch

Those records are guarded along with John Kerry's military medical records.

They tell a story about LBJ wanting to accuse an opponent of enjoying sex with barnyard animals. LBJs advisors protested, saying that no-one would believe it. LBJ is famously reported to have said, "I don't care, I just want to hear him deny it."

Chigaco politics is rough. But I bet the North Vietnamese weren't exactly choirboys, themselves.

we obama reference up ^

Pretty quiet here tonight.

Lets start some conversation.

I await the Dem convention with popcorn in hand to see if HRC plays Lucy to BHO's Charlie Brown.

I would like to see McCain choose Sarah Palin or Mitt R. as his VP choice.

I'm getting real tired of the media's fascination with loser BHO's VP choice.

re: #218 Killgore Trout

Nope. It handles the winters just fine even on very cold years.

wow,
fabulous. i never knew.

re: #217 lawhawk

You really think those records are still around? This is Chicago we're talking about... things happen. Records disappear. Kind of like all of Obama's legislative papers. Poof! Gone.

Where'd they go? Where'd what go? /see what I mean

His law records.
His leg records.
His Annenberg records.....

All floating in the lake.

re: #227 jcm

His law records.
His leg records.
His Annenberg records.....

All floating in the lake.

the audacity of hoping the public will just let it slide.

re: #226 nyc redneck

There's a Sikh man who owns a tea shop here in Portland. I went in to ask advice once and he taught me all about techniques and methods for processing tea. Growing the plants is easy, processing the leaves is the trick part.

re: #228 nyc redneck

the audacity of hoping the public will just let it slide.

What's a few pieces of paper when you have HOPE!?

they are only Hoping we will Change our mind about asking for them.
seriously aren't Dems curious about him? don't they care about who he is?

re: #220 willowone

"Willow" -

Sen. Obama is the product of an anger/entitlement mentality. Cutting to the CHASE, Sen. Obama, attitudinally, is the product of the late 1960's/early 1970's - TOO BAD/SO SAD - He COULD have been SO MUCH BETTER.

-S-

re: #145 galloping granny

My grampa had this kind of stroke. He never again could say anything in front of most of us other than "gawdammit!" - but he and my little daughter would go away in the other room and play with the telephone where he thought we couldn't hear him. Every word to her was just fine. Gosh I miss him.

I was missing my grandfather today too. His oldest grandchild (me) and the wife of his youngest (my cousin) are both expecting babies within 3-4 weeks of each other. He would have gotten a big kick out of that.

Evening lizards - from Birmingham Alabama tonight, long way from home sweet home California.

I have these century plants growing in my yard but I avoid them like the plague. Years back I took a chainsaw to one of these babies wearing shorts and the juice flung back on my legs. In about a minute I was in the most intense PAIN I have ever been in. It was an intense burning sensation. I thought the juice must be basic so ran to the house and poured vinegar all over my legs to no avail. Then I switched to baking soda thinking it might have been an acid - again to no avail. Nothing worked but after about five minutes the pain went away, didn't even leave welts or anything. I figured I must be allergic to something in the plant so I give them wide berth now.

re: #232 Dr. Shalit
true.

Evening guys from Gatlinburg, gate way to the Smokies, I'm in a fairly nice hotel next to the river, arrived around one-thirty and went on a nice hike down to a mountain stream and grooved out on nature until a wasp drove me away, in the nicest way possible. Checked in and the staff is absolutely convinced I am meeting someone because I paid with cash instead of credit and got a pretty nice room. I will sample the dubious nightlife tomorrow night. Might head towards Cades Cove early tomorrow before it starts getting hot....

re: #229 Killgore Trout

There's a Sikh man who owns a tea shop here in Portland. I went in to ask advice once and he taught me all about techniques and methods for processing tea. Growing the plants is easy, processing the leaves is the trick part.

i'm a coffee drinker, tho i do like caffeinated tea.
all i've ever tried is lipton. lol
i think i'll do some investigating. i would love to have a tea tree.

re: #235 willowone

"willow" -

"THANX!" That is all.

-S-

So, I'm still getting a smattering of pro-Russian posters on my blog. One of them thinks that Pravda is superior in reporting than CNN, NYT, et al.

What the heck is in the water? What have they done to those precious bodily fluids?

re: #229 Killgore Trout

There's a Sikh man who owns a tea shop here in Portland. I went in to ask advice once and he taught me all about techniques and methods for processing tea. Growing the plants is easy, processing the leaves is the trick part.

What is your end result? Green, oolong, etc.?

re: #236 LoFlyer

Evening guys from Gatlinburg, gate way to the Smokies, I'm in a fairly nice hotel next to the river, arrived around one-thirty and went on a nice hike down to a mountain stream and grooved out on nature until a wasp drove me away, in the nicest way possible. Checked in and the staff is absolutely convinced I am meeting someone because I paid with cash instead of credit and got a pretty nice room. I will sample the dubious nightlife tomorrow night. Might head towards Cades Cove early tomorrow before it starts getting hot....

You should have registered under "Bill Clinton".

re: #216 goddessoftheclassroom

Good evening, Lizards.

(tapping foot impatiently) WHERE is pre-Boomer Marine brat?

Hiding under your bed

re: #239 lawhawk

So, I'm still getting a smattering of pro-Russian posters on my blog. One of them thinks that Pravda is superior in reporting than CNN, NYT, et al.

What the heck is in the water? What have they done to those precious bodily fluids?

They are probably right...Have you noticed the quality of journalism the MSM is accepting from their stringers in the ME? Pravda is better!

re: #237 nyc redneck

red -

Tea is "Lower Octane" than Coffee. Be guided accordingly and adjust.

-S-

re: #242 A Kiwi Infidel

Hiding under your bed

And Mandy says "if you dont wan'him, send him over here"

re: #239 lawhawk
Heck -what's in ours, that a large segment of the population i now consider crazy!

re: #239 lawhawk

So, I'm still getting a smattering of pro-Russian posters on my blog. One of them thinks that Pravda is superior in reporting than CNN, NYT, et al.

What the heck is in the water? What have they done to those precious bodily fluids?

They have the pride and courage of thugs.

Hey a tea thread. I was in Beijing about a year ago and was given a tour of a tea store. We are talking a four story building with nothing but tea, all types you can imagine. My favorite is Puer tea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puer_tea

It make the best darned iced tea too.

re: #241 livefreeor die

You should have registered under "Bill Clinton".

Next, time, hah, hah!

re: #218 Killgore Trout

Speaking of tea...I once knew a Brit whose father was one of those official tea connoisseurs (it was the tea connoisseur's job to grade, judge the teas, etc. -- had to have a fine palate like that of a wine taster/connoisseur...at one time, tea tasting was a government job in Britain...and very well paid.) Wild spearmint grows up here (can find it all over), like a weed...but not the real thing...

re: #239 lawhawk

So, I'm still getting a smattering of pro-Russian posters on my blog. One of them thinks that Pravda is superior in reporting than CNN, NYT, et al.

What the heck is in the water? What have they done to those precious bodily fluids?

Well lawhawk, you can hardly argue with that. Pravda is in the original Russian. Those other guys have to translate, then rewrite in English. Bound to be something lost.

re: #163 FrogMarch

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Looks like a scene from The Breakfast Club.

/i can see up judd nelson's nose

re: #248 turn

Hey a tea thread. I was in Beijing about a year ago and was given a tour of a tea store. We are talking a four story building with nothing but tea, all types you can imagine. My favorite is Puer tea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puer_tea

It make the best darned iced tea too.

I am stuck on oolongs...I bought some puerh from a reputable dealer in China, but I don't think I am doing it right. Some of what I bought has too much of that "earthy" smell, LOL.

re: #236 LoFlyer

Evening guys from Gatlinburg, gate way to the Smokies, I'm in a fairly nice hotel next to the river, arrived around one-thirty and went on a nice hike down to a mountain stream and grooved out on nature until a wasp drove me away, in the nicest way possible. Checked in and the staff is absolutely convinced I am meeting someone because I paid with cash instead of credit and got a pretty nice room. I will sample the dubious nightlife tomorrow night. Might head towards Cades Cove early tomorrow before it starts getting hot....

have a great time. you're in a very beautiful place. i love the smokies.

re: #239 lawhawk

So, I'm still getting a smattering of pro-Russian posters on my blog. One of them thinks that Pravda is superior in reporting than CNN, NYT, et al.

What the heck is in the water? What have they done to those precious bodily fluids?

Pravda superior to CNN? That is not a stretch at all.

re: #236 LoFlyer

Evening guys from Gatlinburg, gate way to the Smokies, I'm in a fairly nice hotel next to the river, arrived around one-thirty and went on a nice hike down to a mountain stream and grooved out on nature until a wasp drove me away, in the nicest way possible. Checked in and the staff is absolutely convinced I am meeting someone because I paid with cash instead of credit and got a pretty nice room. I will sample the dubious nightlife tomorrow night. Might head towards Cades Cove early tomorrow before it starts getting hot....

Are you going to Dollywood? Hiking on the AT?

re: #217 lawhawk

They're with the voting machines from the 1960 Presidential Election.

re: #242 A Kiwi Infidel

Hiding under your bed

Oh, don't I wish! :)

re: #253 OldLineTexan

You ought to try the Puer, it is aged and has a very musty taste that really grows on you. You need to rinse it before you brew it to get rid of the real musty flavor. They age this stuff for up to (or maybe longer) fifty years! The older it is the more expensive it gets. Check out the link above, its really got some medicinal qualities to it (and really good for a hang over).

re: #254 nyc redneck

have a great time. you're in a very beautiful place. i love the smokies.

The hike down to the stream and the picnic at the Chimneys is calming me down. The Chimneys was fun just watching the families and kids wading in the creek. Do they sell beer in Gatlinburg?

re: #256 Ward Cleaver

Are you going to Dollywood? Hiking on the AT?

No, but I would do Dolly!

re: #260 turn

Oh I see OldLine has tried it, yes the musky flavor can grow on you. You didn't don anything wrong aparently.

re: #259 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, don't I wish! :)

How did I know you would say that? :)

re: #240 OldLineTexan

I usually make green tea just because it's easier. But on lazy afternoons I'll make some Oolong or black tea. It's great with fresh ginger too.

re: #260 turn

You ought to try the Puer, it is aged and has a very musty taste that really grows on you. You need to rinse it before you brew it to get rid of the real musty flavor. They age this stuff for up to (or maybe longer) fifty years! The older it is the more expensive it gets. Check out the link above, its really got some medicinal qualities to it (and really good for a hang over).

Any brewing tips? I actually have a small selection of several different types, both "raw" and "aged". One mushroom "tuo", two cakes, and two other samples.

re: #239 lawhawk this is an example of moderate prgressives and what they say about Russia problem : Personally I'll never understand what people are so afraid of...the biggest threat to my life and liberty is a helluva lot closer than Russia or Afghhanistan or Iraq...its the local freakin' precint, local govt. offices, the statehouse, and Washington DC. Some terrorist whackjob blowing something up, or the Russians talkin' tough about missile shields doesn't even rate. The gambler in me says the odds are better of me being tased to death by a local cop than dying at the hands of a terrorist or a Russian soldier

Oh, dear. I hate to whine but, I think I really screwed up today. My 22-lb. cat jumped into my lap as I was reaching for a sheet coming off the printer. I hit my FULL mug of tea, and it spilled everywhere--except, of course, on kitty.

I cleaned up as best I could, and I noticed that it even spilled onto the left side of my keyboard. I turned the keyboard over and let it drip onto a white dish towel. I picked it up at times and tilted it this-way and that-way.

Now, my CTRL key is kinda' sluggish. Kinda'?! Heck, it is almost impossible to use without my paying actual attention to it as I type. (I don't hunt-and-peck. I don't know what my WPM is but, it's up there.)

Do I need a new keyboard?

re: #262 LoFlyer

No, but I would do Dolly!

I've hiked up to Clingmans Dome. It's just about due south of Gatinburg.

re: #265 Killgore Trout

I usually make green tea just because it's easier. But on lazy afternoons I'll make some Oolong or black tea. It's great with fresh ginger too.

I am impressed...I have seen videos of the oolong process; it's pretty involved, at least in Taiwan. ;)

re: #257 buzzsawmonkey

They're being re-named "The Great Smoke-Free Mountains," haven't you heard?

lol, you're going to have to change the clouds for that.

i camped up there once in the fall w/ some friends. the temp dropped so fast we nearly froze to death. only snuggling w/ the dogs kept us alive.
we got up the next morning for maple syrup on buckwheat pancakes cooked in a iron skillet w/ a side of bacon. and decided the cold night was worth it.
(btw, i've never liked waffles.)