Typical black hole.

Beautiful! Though the idea of a giant space octopus is a little unnerving...

Just - wow!

Hubble is one of the best things made by man.

And the creationists would have us think that the Earth is the center of the Universe.

That belief ignores the majesty and beauty of the Universe, and is an affront to the Creator.

black hole

I thought this scientific term was not officially racist!

Legs and arms - oh my!

6000 years in the making.

I think it's winking at me....

A couple of days since a good science thread.....not quite and ID debate but I guess will have to do.

Very nice.

Let me take this opportunity to chant Yog! Sotthoth!

Wow!

Gigantic gaseous filaments

But enough about Obama's speeches...

Space ..the final frontier. Those photos almost make me wish I could live forever just to find out what is out there.

Obviously faked. I think we all know why.

/

re: #13 Occasional Reader

But enough about Obama's speeches...

upding worthy!

Photo shopped. Real stars don't actually twinkle like that.

Cosmic Chemtrails....

That's no moon.... It's a space station!

Hubble, hubble!

Obviously is human caused Galaxy warming.

/tax them till they drop

We have the next best thing up here... the northern lights. I never get tired of watching them dancing and turning different colors.

I will take full credit (other than all Charles did, you know setting up this whole site and everything else) for this thread idea.

I said "squid" on the last thread. Which made the Grand Lizard think tentacles, which got him thinking of a new thread.

You may thank me with cash.

re: #17 Blastforth

Photo shopped. Real stars don't actually twinkle like that.

Those are diffraction spikes caused by the optics. Earthbound telescopes will do the same thing.

re: #22 Alaska Kim

We have the next best thing up here... the northern lights. I never get tired of watching them dancing and turning different colors.

Northern Lights.

Good sh*t.

Looks like Iran is testing it's nukes.....

(that one went a bit high, guys)

Moscow halts all cooperation with NATO alliance

re: #22 Alaska Kim

We have the next best thing up here... the northern lights. I never
get tired of watching them dancing and turning different colors.

Seeing the northern lights is on my list of things to do before I die. The Brazilian Women's Beach Volleyball Team is on that list as well.

re: #22 Alaska Kim

We have the next best thing up here... the northern lights. I never get tired of watching them dancing and turning different colors.

My dream vacation is in Alaska whilst the Northern Lights are at their peak.

Is that an immense magnetic tentacle in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?

--The conversation right before the big bang

Looks like my hair on a bad day.

re: #29 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My dream vacation is in Alaska whilst the Northern Lights are at their peak.

Take me with you.

re: #8 Fenway_Nation

I think it's winking at me....

no that's Uranus

re: #13 Occasional Reader

But enough about Obama's speeches...

LOL

re: #29 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That would be in the dead of winter, December/January. Absolutely beautiful. They're usually an emerald green, but a few years ago they were a magenta/fuschia color and it was spectacular.

re: #28 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Seeing the northern lights is on my list of things to do before I die. The Brazilian Women's Beach Volleyball Team is on that list as well.

You needn't go all the way to Alaska for the former (although your odds are better, I guess). I saw jaw-droppingly spectacular Northern Lights at Lake George, NY.

re: #34 Shug

no that's Uranus

Uranus jokes....very old...

I just saw that Baruch is going to be on the cover of time for the 7th time this year.

re: #27 Ben Hur

They were cooperating?

OT
BOSCO=black on skin color only

re: #11 Thanos

Let me take this opportunity to chant Yog! Sotthoth!

As long as you don't summon Nyarlobama.

Oooooh!

Cool!

/waiting to get flamed

Niiiiiiiice.

re: #4 XMarine

And the creationists would have us think that the Earth is the center of the Universe.

That belief ignores the majesty and beauty of the Universe, and is an affront to the Creator.

No they don't.

New McCain ad.Hilarious. Moses gets in another zinger and Ramses joins in.

Immense Magnetic Tentacles

At first reading I thought it said Immense Magnetic Testicles.

...I wonder what that says about me?

re: #22 Alaska Kim

We have the next best thing up here... the northern lights. I never get tired of watching them dancing and turning different colors.

What's the name of the hot springs resort just north of Fairbanks? - Caters to Japanese newlyweds and has an indoor viewing theatre (glass dome roof) with reclining seats and Aurora alarms during the night.

Facing beauty such as this, I can't help but reflect on the sweeping lyprics that open the Beastie Boys' 1999 cosmic opus, "Intergalactic":

Intergalactic, planetary
Planetary, intergalactic,
Intergalactic, planetary
Planetary, intergalactic,
Intergalactic, planetary
Planetary, intergalactic,
Intergalactic, planetary
Planetary, intergalactic.

Intergalactic indeed, my friends. Intergalactic.

re: #37 Occasional Reader

You needn't go all the way to Alaska for the former (although your
odds are better, I guess). I saw jaw-droppingly spectacular Northern
Lights at Lake George, NY.

Really? A girl I'm dating (not on the Brazilian Women's Beach Volleyball Team, but I like her anyway) lives not too far from Lake George. When's the best time of year to see the Northen Lights around there?

re: #34 Shug

no that's Uranus

Farnsworth: I'm sorry, Fry, but astronomers renamed Uranus in 2620 to end that stupid joke once and for all.

Fry: Oh. What's it called now?

Farnsworth: Urectum!

Did anyone catch the Dennis Prager show this afternoon? He had on Kenneth R. Miller, a Christian biologist who is opposed to the teaching of "ID" which he feels is denigrating to science and also to religion. What's Charles' opinion of Kenneth R. Miller?

You can't say "Black Hole". That's racist. It's an "illumination challenged hole" or a "photon deprived hole".

re: #48 Ringo the Gringo

At first reading I thought it said Immense Magnetic Testicles.

...I wonder what that says about me?

Lots of iron in your diet?

The worthy soundtrack, itself.

re: #39 Ben Hur

The only thing more disgusting was when the had Nelson Mandela on the cover earlier this year. I'm willing to bet the farm I don't own that the topic of Robert Mugabe didn't come up when they were interviewing that overhyped commie......

/or AIDS
/or South Africa's 'brain drain'

re: #37 Occasional Reader

I hear you can occasionally see them in the northern lower 48. And if I remember correctly, right after 9/11, we had some that reached as far as the Carolinas or Georgia or something and it freaked some people out. I guess because people were still on edge after 9/11.

That's nothing. Wait till Obama's ego collapses.

re: #51 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Really? A girl I'm dating (not on the Brazilian Women's Beach Volleyball Team, but I like her anyway) lives not too far from Lake George. When's the best time of year to see the Northen Lights around there?

I think it's kind of hit or miss; I saw them in October. A long time ago.

Think intergalactically, act globally.

re: #49 Bobibutu

Chena Hot Springs?

How beautiful.

re: #59 HelloDare

That's nothing. Wait till Obama's ego collapses.

Don't hold your breath . . .

/

re: #47 Bobblehead

Obama writes the script for them

re: #62 Alaska Kim

Chena Hot Springs?

Yes! Thank you. Spent some time there back in the 90s. Awesome and a fun place.

The earthuniverse is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; the worlds, and they that dwell therein. Psalm 24:1
The Evolving Bible.............
/oh please, don't get offended.....

northern lights? lots of poetry out there for sun farts.

re: #58 Alaska Kim

I hear you can occasionally see them in the northern lower 48. And if I remember correctly, right after 9/11, we had some that reached as far as the Carolinas or Georgia or something and it freaked some people out. I guess because people were still on edge after 9/11.

In order to see them in the lower 48 the sun must be very active, electromagnetically speaking.

What media bias?

The front page headlines at yahoo right now:

Obama raps McCain for ignorance of his own houses.
Obama says he's decided on a running mate.
The whereabouts of potential veep picks.
Obama inspires black Republicans to switch parties.
Veep Sheet: Obama meets Kaine's staff.
Campaigns vie over whether McCain is Bush clone.

Are these the headlines from yahoo.com or Obama.com?

Crocodile eats Bangladesh man who sought its blessing

Obviously didn't see the film, Lake Placid.

re: #54 Colonel Panik

You can't say "Black Hole". That's racist. It's an "illumination challenged hole" or a "photon deprived hole".

But you don't understand.....

The imperialist 'hole' is keeping all of the photons captive......FREE THE PHOTONS!

re: #71 Ben Hur

Crocodile eats Bangladesh man who sought its blessing

Obviously didn't see the film, Lake Placid.

Or listen to Churchill on the subject of appeasement!

This just occurred to me. If John Edwards has a 28,200-square-foot house, why didn't he just hide his mistress in a room in the back. Who would have found her? He gets up in the middle of the night. Comes back an hour later. Simple.

re: #48 Ringo the Gringo

At first reading I thought it said Immense Magnetic Testicles.

...I wonder what that says about me?

You secretly want to be 'Magneto' from 'X-Men'.

re: #70 Silhouette

What media bias?

The front page headlines at yahoo right now:

Are these the headlines from yahoo.com or Obama.com?

Is there a difference ?

/

re: #71 Ben Hur

Crocodile eats Bangladesh man who sought its blessing

Obviously didn't see the film, Lake Placid.

Blessing denied!
/

I have five houses too.....however four of them are in another dimension.

re: #66 Bobibutu

Yes! Thank you. Spent some time there back in the 90s. Awesome and a fun place.

We went up there about ten years ago in the summer. Wouldn't do it again though, the mosquitos are horrible in Fairbanks in the summer.

There is one thing I cant understand though.

How can we blame this on America?

re: #65 twincitiesgirl

I love the shot of the surfer boy wiping out.

re: #74 HelloDare

This just occurred to me. If John Edwards has a 28,200-square-foot house, why didn't he just hide his mistress in a room in the back. Who would have found her? He gets up in the middle of the night. Comes back an hour a few minutes later later. Simple.

Fixed it.

Where are the globular clusters?

re: #27 Ben Hur

Moscow halts all cooperation with NATO alliance

When did they ever start cooperating, really?

re: #82 Maine's Michael

Komrade Michaelski!

Got any more borscht?

re: #68 big steve

northern lights? lots of poetry out there for sun farts.

Did someone say "northern lights" and "poetry"?

Video doesn't work but you get the picture:

Video: Volleyball team wins gold, blindsides NBC with shout-out to Bush

re: #38 big steve

Uranus jokes....very old...

I've heard that Carl Sagan was on Johnny Carson's show years ago. Johnny was an avid amateur astronomer. Carl said to him 'Johnny, did you know that there are rings around Uranus?' and Johnny almost busted a gut laughing.

So.... would that be a "window" in the "firmament"?

re: #48 Ringo the Gringothat you're a guy?

re: #74 HelloDare

This just occurred to me. If John Edwards has a 28,200-square-foot house, why didn't he just hide his mistress in a room in the back. Who would have found her? He gets up in the middle of the night. Comes back an hour later. Simple.

You live alone, & you have for a long time . . . don't you . . .

/

Northern Lights?

That'll give you some poetry.

Man.

re: #74 HelloDare

This just occurred to me. If John Edwards has a 28,200-square-foot house, why didn't he just hide his mistress in a room in the back. Who would have found her? He gets up in the middle of the night. Comes back an hour later. Simple.

An hour? You give him much credit.

re: #77 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

LOL...

I guess so.

re: #77 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Blessing denied!
/

I like this quote.."This is a very unusual incident. Normally, the crocodiles are very friendly and do not harm people."

re: #79 Alaska Kim

We went up there about ten years ago in the summer. Wouldn't do it again though, the mosquitos are horrible in Fairbanks in the summer.

Ah - Alaskan mosquitos and no-see-'ems ... shudder. A mosquito that is built to pierce moose hide.

Are you in the Anchorage area?

re: #70 Silhouette

My only hope is that people will get sick of it.
I asked my neighbor, a yellow-dog Democrat, who she thought Obama would pick for VP. She said, "I don't care. I'm sick of all this Obama stuff."
Hmmmm........

re: #91 Temujin

Yeah. But my house is really small.

re: #95 Bobblehead

They are very very friendly if you feed them, and feed them, hoping you will be eaten last but then ....{BURP}

re: #96 Bobibutu

No. I'm in Juneau. It was darn near 80 degrees here yesterday. I thought I was going to die, that is way too warm for me!

re: #36 Alaska Kim

That would be in the dead of winter, December/January. Absolutely beautiful. They're usually an emerald green, but a few years ago they were a magenta/fuschia color and it was spectacular.

And this year, it will be nice and warm with that glacier all melty.

re: #67 IslandLibertarian

Definitely not offended. The Greek of John 3:16 reads "For God so loved the World (everything He created)...." Man is not the only thing He loves.

Wow! That is simply unspeakably beautiful!

Finding Nemo, the Terrorist Librarian

re: #85 WriterMom

Komrade Michaelski!

Got any more borscht?

4 guys in suits drove up in black Yukons after yesterdays PRAVDA link and confiscated the borscht.

They said to behave myself, or they would come back and beet me.

re: #104 Ben Hur

Finding Nemo, the Terrorist Librarian

According to Jane's Security News, Nemo may be Palestinian, based on some of his clothing seen in pictures. He could be called Yousef and be in his early 20s, based on one of his e-mail addresses. There is reportedly some evidence that he has a young daughter.

Or he could be some idiot tourist in NYC wearing Urban Outfitters.

Thank you, Charles!

What a beautiful photo!

Do they have it in green? It would look great over my sofa.

re: #98 HelloDare

Never underestimate the curiousity, or the investigative powers, of Significant Others . . .

Looks like G_d winking...

re: #101 debutaunt

And this year, it will be nice and warm with that glacier all melty.

Nice and warm? If it were warm, we wouldn't have had a record 200 inches of snow the winter before last.

re: #106 Ben Hur

A Palestinian terrorist corrupting kids or kid stuff? Say it isn't so!

I just read today that scientists can find stellar black holes and massive black holes but nothing in between the 2 extremes..
I wish i would have bookmarked it..
great pic and thread charles...That more than makes up for the last thread..
:)
/running like the wind!

re: #111 Alaska Kim

Nice and warm? If it were warm, we wouldn't have had a record 200 inches of snow the winter before last.

Don't you love the glacier-melting global warming BS?

re: #38 big steve

Uranus jokes....very old...

unless you're a new uranus creationist

re: #85 WriterMom

Komrade Michaelski!

Got any more borscht?

Well, I keep trying to find an online copy of Mickey Katz' Borscht Riders In The Sky, but I can't even find the lyrics.
Here's a couple of lines
"An old cowpunchman out to lunch beyond the pearly gates
Stopped in a vegetarian restaurant called Nates
[can't understand the Yiddish lines that come next]
Call me tsuris*, he yelled out,
Give me a plate of borscht.

*For those too unfamiliar with cowboy movies or Yiddish to figure this out, tsuris means "trouble"

re: #99 WriterMom

They are very very friendly if you feed them, and feed them, hoping you will be eaten last but then ....{BURP}

Reptiles do not categorize food. Food is food. Isn't there some way we could find a way to blame this on the U.S.?

Magnetic testicles? That would make sitting in the bleachers exciting no?

re: #117 Bobblehead

Reptiles do not categorize food. Food is food. Isn't there some way we could find a way to blame this on the U.S.?

US BACKED Bangledeshi man.

At least that way, no one will give a shit.

re: #114 debutaunt

Don't you love the glacier-melting global warming BS?

Coldest year & most snow fall in 30 years. Still they think that Gore knoews wahte he's talking about.

re: #114 debutaunt

I ignore all that BS. Whatever happens, happens. It is true that the ice is melting at a fast rate, but that doesn't seem to change too much in the day to day life up here. it is still cold as hell in the wintertime.

STS-125 is the next shuttle mission and it's going to do some work on the hubble space telescope.

I know that since the orbit is so much higher than the usual mission I believe they use up a lot of their maneuvering fuel just getting to the telescope.

quite a technically challenging mission

re: #7 Ben Hur

The universe was built by the lowest bidder and was botched job in that it had to be built in six days. And, the owner kept insisting on making changes to the original design.

re: #122 Shug

STS-125 is the next shuttle mission and it's going to do some work on the hubble space telescope.

I
know that since the orbit is so much higher than the usual mission I
believe they use up a lot of their maneuvering fuel just getting to the
telescope.

quite a technically challenging mission

Doesn't NASA realize the carbon footprint that is left by each Shuttle launch?!?
/

re: #120 opnion

Manbearpig IS real and it WILL get you, unless you let Al Gore stop it!

20,000 Light Years long.
Makes Earth seem rather miniscule don't it!?

re: #121 Alaska Kim

I ignore all that BS. Whatever happens, happens. It is true that the ice is melting at a fast rate, but that doesn't seem to change too much in the day to day life up here. it is still cold as hell in the wintertime.

You're in for a lovely surprise this winter - Al is pretty sure you'll be unusually warm and toasty!

re: #118 Truck Monkey

Not the old fashioned wooden ones.

re: #124 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
NASA has been working with Al Gore on acquiring carbon off-sets..
/He's pretty good at that you know.

re: #102 Spenser (with an S)

Definitely not offended. The Greek of John 3:16 reads "For God so loved the World (everything He created)...." Man is not the only thing He loves.

What's also interesting is that several places in Psalms and elsewhere speak of God 'stretching out the heavens'. That sounds a lot like inflationary theory to me. Definitely not a bunch of turtles stacked up somewhere.

re: #126 Jed 1899

20,000 Light Years long.
Makes Earth seem rather miniscule don't it!?

You know, sometimes on really clear nights, I like to gaze up at the sky with all those countless stars, and reflect on how truly insignificant the universe is, compared to Me.

re: #126 Jed 1899

20,000 Light Years long.
Makes Earth seem rather miniscule don't it!?

Can we have your liver, then?

re: #130 Cygnus

What's also interesting is that several places in Psalms and elsewhere speak of God 'stretching out the heavens'. That sounds a lot like inflationary theory to me. Definitely not a bunch of turtles stacked up somewhere.

The turtles are nicely stacked on posts - read some space books!

re: #131 Occasional Reader

You know, sometimes on really clear nights, I like to gaze up at the sky with all those countless stars, and reflect on how truly insignificant the universe is, compared to Me.

Channeling The One?

re: #131 Occasional Reader

You know, sometimes on really clear nights, I like to gaze up at the sky with all those countless stars, and reflect on how truly insignificant the universe is, compared to Me.

Is that a quote from Obama?

re: #131 Occasional Reader

You know, sometimes on really clear nights, I like to gaze up at the sky with all those countless stars, and reflect on how truly insignificant the universe is, compared to Me.

Absolutely - it all looks so tiny up there.

I am the One the Universe has been waiting for!

This is not the nebula I knew.

Good afternoon everyone. Ever wonder why stars vary in color from blue to red? It’s called red shift. It’s a Doppler type of effect due to the velocity and direction of stars relative to us as observers. This was discovered by Hubbell (namesake of the Hubbell telescope) and led to the big bang theory.

Redshift and the Expanding Universe
Expanding Universe and Relativity
Redshift

re: #134 Bobblehead

You know, he can't raise the dead. If he could, they might stop voting as Democrats.

has anything been mentioed about the space station since the russians little excursion /sarc thru georgia? any fist fights up there? who knows? what about future cooperation between the US and russia regarding said space station? will russia actions close up the station?

re: #131 Occasional Reader

You know, sometimes on really clear nights, I like to gaze up at the sky with all those countless stars, and reflect on how truly insignificant the universe is, compared to Me.

Are you a supporter of the egocentric model of the universe?

re: #139 MacGregor

Good afternoon everyone. Ever wonder why stars vary in color from
blue to red? It’s called red shift. It’s a Doppler type of effect due
to the velocity and direction of stars relative to us as observers.
This was discovered by Hubbell (namesake of the Hubbell telescope) and
led to the big bang theory.

Redshift and the Expanding Universe
Expanding Universe and Relativity
Redshift

Red shift? Sounds like Obama's campaign so far.

re: #118 Truck Monkey

Magnetic testicles? That would make sitting in the bleachers exciting no?

It could make having a lower body MRI a very interesting experience.

re: #143 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Red shift? Sounds like Obama's campaign so far.

I think it's the code name for O's plan for what happens right after he's inaugurated.

re: #144 Cygnus

It could make having a lower body MRI a very interesting experience.

balls to the wall

re: #130 Cygnus

What's also interesting is that several places in Psalms and elsewhere speak of God 'stretching out the heavens'. That sounds a lot like inflationary theory to me. Definitely not a bunch of turtles stacked up somewhere.

Do not insult the turtle stack or stacker!
Just a warning...
/ ;-)

re: #139 MacGregor

Good afternoon everyone. Ever wonder why stars vary in color from blue to red? It’s called red shift. It’s a Doppler type of effect due to the velocity and direction of stars relative to us as observers. This was discovered by Hubbell (namesake of the Hubbell telescope) and led to the big bang theory. blockquote>

Uh oh. ID thread forming?

=:-O

re: #142 Kosh's Shadow

Are you a supporter of the egocentric model of the universe?

Well, sure. I always hear astronomers explaining how the light from some nebula or other "traveled 50,000 light years to reach you."

To reach me.

Could it be any clearer?

re: #146 Shug

Ohh. Clean up on aisle 3.

re: #137 Occasional Reader

I am the One the Universe has been waiting for!

Then off into the Universe with you!

re: #139 MacGregor

Good afternoon everyone. Ever wonder why stars vary in color from blue to red? It’s called red shift. It’s a Doppler type of effect due to the velocity and direction of stars relative to us as observers. This was discovered by Hubbell (namesake of the Hubbell telescope) and led to the big bang theory.

Redshift and the Expanding Universe
Expanding Universe and Relativity
Redshift

Very true, but most of the colors you see with your eyes are because of star temperatures. Blue stars are hotter, while redder stars are cooler.

re: #139 MacGregor
that is the color from an observer on earth as the sun moves away from you..
But standing by a star ( don't try this at home )
The color of the star is determined by the age, size and chemical makeup in the sun..
IIRC

re: #135 Cygnus

Is that a quote from Obama?

Great minds think alike but rarely do they post simultaneously.

re: #148 Lizard by the Bay

Good afternoon everyone. Ever wonder why stars vary in color from blue to red? It’s called red shift. It’s a Doppler type of effect due to the velocity and direction of stars relative to us as observers. This was discovered by Hubbell (namesake of the Hubbell telescope) and led to the big bang theory. blockquote>

Uh oh. ID thread forming?

=:-O

Or a penis thread. We've already got the magnetic testicles going.

Watch the Gold-Winning Beach Volleyball Team give thanks to President Bush here.

re: #152 Cygnus

Blue stars are hotter

I know of a bordello in northern Peru called "The Blue Star".

(Merely know of it, I hasten to add)

re: #148 Lizard by the Bay

That would be 'evolving'. :>)

re: #157 Occasional Reader

I know of a bordello in northern Peru called "The Blue Star".

(Merely know of it, I hasten to add)

Probably a lot more fun than the nearby White Dwarf bordello.

re: #127 debutaunt

You're in for a lovely surprise this winter - Al is pretty sure you'll be unusually warm and toasty!

Yeah? Well, I'll have Al over for moose meat and king crab in January. He can sit out on my deck and see how long he lasts.

re: #153 HoosierHoops

re: #152 Cygnus

Yes, I've heard that also.

re: #159 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Probably a lot more fun than the nearby White Dwarf bordello.

or the black hole bordello

re: #159 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Or cleaner than the "Black Hole" (eww)

re: #162 Shug

jinx!

#152 Cygnus 8/21/08 1:44:52 pm reply quote 0

re: #139 MacGregor

Good afternoon everyone. Ever wonder why stars vary in color from blue to red? It’s called red shift. It’s a Doppler type of effect due to the velocity and direction of stars relative to us as observers. This was discovered by Hubbell (namesake of the Hubbell telescope) and led to the big bang theory.

Redshift and the Expanding Universe
Expanding Universe and Relativity
Redshift

Very true, but most of the colors you see with your eyes are because of star temperatures. Blue stars are hotter, while redder stars are cooler.

I was just going to ask about that.

From what frame of reference does the light tempurature shift, given already existing differences among stars?

re: #162 Shug

or the black hole bordello

You'd better stay away from the Red Supergiant Bordello.

re: #162 Shug

or the black hole bordello

re: #163 calcajun

Or cleaner than the "Black Hole" (eww)

Lizards are in sync today.

When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; what is man, that thou art mindful of him?
Psalm 8
Nothing to do with the creationist silliness, just awe and wonder at the majesty of the universe, however it was ordained.

re: #163 calcajun

Or cleaner than the "Black Hole" (eww)

Which is nicknamed "The Crab Nebula", naturally.

re: #168 MacGiolaPhadraig

When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; what is man, that thou art mindful of him?
Psalm 8
Nothing to do with the creationist silliness, just awe and wonder at the majesty of the universe, however it was ordained.

An Amen and upding to you from an OEC and amateur astronomer!

re: #111 Alaska Kim

Where in Alaska? My mom grew up in Palmer.

re: #169 Occasional Reader

Double "eww".

re: #168 MacGiolaPhadraig

When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; what is man, that thou art mindful of him?
Psalm 8
Nothing to do with the creationist silliness, just awe and wonder at the majesty of the universe, however it was ordained.

You're making our bordello jokes like kinda bad over here...

re: #165 eschew_obfuscation

From what frame of reference does the light tempurature shift, given already existing differences among stars?

That is so above my pay grade!

re: #169 Occasional Reader

Which is nicknamed "The Crab Nebula", naturally.

Is that near Uranus?

re: #169 Occasional Reader

Which is nicknamed "The Crab Nebula", naturally.

Also known as the Bug Nebula (ecch!).

re: #169 Occasional Reader

Which is nicknamed "The Crab Nebula", naturally.

A quick visit to the Rid-Ex Nebula will take care of that.

re: #165 eschew_obfuscation

Short, very non-technical answer? How hot they burn.

re: #174 MacGregor

That is so above my pay grade!

heh!

Mind-boggling! Such photos really put things in perspective. Our planet is a speck of dust in the cosmic order.

OT yet?
I hate browsing on a laptop. I keep hitting backspace instead of page down and needing to reload long threads. (Yes, it is a very slow day at work.)

re: #178 Dianna

Short, very non-technical answer? How hot they burn.

Thanks! I think my questions would just go on.....so I'll go do some research

re: #175 Lizard by the Bay

Ok--we're going down celestial Pun lane are we. Be careful lest we offend someone with a mercurial sense of humor.

re: #123 calcajun

No wonder people are bidder and clinging to their Bibles.

re: #178 Dianna

Short, very non-technical answer? How hot they burn.

Along with size and age, IIRC.

re: #171 Dianna

Where in Alaska? My mom grew up in Palmer.

I'm in southeast, in Juneau.
I've been to Palmer/Wasilla though. The Alpenglow in the wintertime up there is just awesome.

Check this out, it's unbelievably cool! Great McCain ad about the "Chosen One", starring Moses and the Obamessiah™.

re: #183 calcajun

Ok--we're going down celestial Pun lane are we. Be careful lest we offend someone with a mercurial sense of humor.

If you do offend someone, we might be reading your orbituary...

re: #163 calcajun

Or cleaner than the "Black Hole" (eww)

Lots of dark matter in there.
/sorry

re: #165 eschew_obfuscation

I was just going to ask about that.

From what frame of reference does the light tempurature shift, given already existing differences among stars?

From my astronomy class IIRC, the spectrum of a star will tell them what color is should be if it was motionless relative to us. Then they can see how much that color is shifted red or blue and it give them the speed toward or away from us.

re: #186 Alaska Kim

I'm in southeast, in Juneau.

No, she doesn't. That's why she's asking.

/rimshot

re: #188 eschew_obfuscationI'm not even going to comet on that.
(Yes, I go for the low hanging fruit)

What makes Uranus unique? It's one of the few things easier to see on a full moon.

/I'm bad today

re: #3 yma o hyd

Just - wow!

Hubble is one of the best things made by man.

Don't forget.

It didn't work at first!

Guess we shouldn't have deployed such a wasteful, unworkable idea.

re: #192 nikis-knight

I'm not even going to comet on that.
(Yes, I go for the low hanging fruit)

Andrew Sullivan?

re: #188 eschew_obfuscation

If you do offend someone, we might be reading your orbituary...

That's it - I'm leaving to get some Fig Newtonians.

re: #188 eschew_obfuscation

That was beneath comet.

re: #190 jcm

From my astronomy class IIRC, the spectrum of a star will tell them what color is should be if it was motionless relative to us. Then they can see how much that color is shifted red or blue and it give them the speed toward or away from us.

That makes sense.....as in which portion of the spectrum is over-represented for a given star, red or blue?

re: #11 Thanos

Let me take this opportunity to chant Yog! Sotthoth!

Not to mention Hastor the Unspeakable.

}:)     [I mean it, really, don't mention Him ... ]

re: #195 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Ah, now I know why that expression is out of use...
Thinking of how I might be misconstrued is making me quasar.

re: #185 Cygnus

Sigh.

Size and age effect how hot a star burns.

re: #197 calcajun

That was beneath comet.

Hale's bells, somebody might Bopp you for that.

re: #87 Ben Hur

Video doesn't work but you get the picture:

Video: Volleyball team wins gold, blindsides NBC with shout-out to Bush

Very Cool !

And congratulations to these to great athletes.

re: #200 nikis-knight

Ah, now I know why that expression is out of use...
Thinking of how I might be misconstrued is making me quasar.

I'm suddenly experiencing a slow computer. Looks like I have some bugs that need to be orioned out.

re: #186 Alaska Kim

Neat.

The last time I was up there I was four, but I remember falling into the Moose-crick (Matanuska River).

re: #196 Cygnus

That's it - I'm leaving to get some Fig Newtonians.

Good idea.....if you sit there too long, you could get assteroids.

These jokes are so bad I'm seein' stars

re: #202 Cygnus

Well, you can't pleiades everyone.

re: #191 Occasional Reader

No, she doesn't. That's why she's asking.

/rimshot

I demand an apology!

Ack!

/joke

re: #204 taxfreekiller

That is actually Ms Clinton's tentacles testicles reaching out into the universe searching for some shit on Obama she can use to seize power once more.

fixed it for you.

re: #207 eschew_obfuscation

Good idea.....if you sit there too long, you could get assteroids.

Actually, an old guy I used to know would always bring Fig Newtons to star parties in honor of Sir Isaac. They're quite tasty at 1 AM.

re: #165 eschew_obfuscation

I was just going to ask about that.

From what frame of reference does the light tempurature shift, given already existing differences among stars?

I'm not sure I understand your question.

The temperature of the star controls the color, and this is the "spectral classification" in the Hertzprung-Russel diagram, with the classes "OBAFGKM", with O being the hottest blue stars, down to the cool M stars. The Sun is a class G yellow star.

The further away a star is, the faster its apparent motion due to the expansion of the universe. Stars in this galaxy don't have much of a red shift, and you can't see individual stars in other galaxies without a powerful telescope and excellent seeing conditions.

And if you ever want to remember the spectral classes, remember "Oh Be a Fine Girl Kiss Me". I'm sure OR will want to teach all the Brazilian supermodels this.

(I teach astronomy online, as a part-time job)

How are Star Trek and Toilet Paper the same?
Both circle Uranus and look for Kling-on's.

The Perfect song for this thread

re: #209 calcajun

Well, you can't pleiades everyone.

I'm gonna kick somebody with my Bootes.

re: #196 Cygnus

That's it - I'm leaving to get some Fig Newtonians.

Fig Einsteins are relatively good.

Night, all.

re: #211 big steve

I really don't think I can cope with the idea of autonomous, 20-light-year reaching testicles.

re: #212 Cygnus

Actually, an old guy I used to know would always bring Fig Newtons to star parties in honor of Sir Isaac. They're quite tasty at 1 AM.

Don't tell him they were named after Newton, Mass.

re: #198 eschew_obfuscation

That makes sense.....as in which portion of the spectrum is over-represented for a given star, red or blue?

Each element in star gives off a spectral spikes, that spectral spikes is at a specific frequencies. Hydrogen has spikes at 410.2 nm, 434.1 nm 484.1 nm and 656.3 nm. Those peaks are fixed and the relation between them fixed. A spectrum from a star those peaks won't be at those values they'll be slight high values for the red shift (away), slight lower for a blue (toward). The peaks are identifiable because the distance between them doesn't changes, so by measure how far off the know spectral emission, the shift can be measured.

re: #217 Cygnus

I'm gonna kick somebody with my Bootes.

Be Sirius.

re: #222 Kosh's Shadow

Don't tell him they were named after Newton, Mass.

Yes, but what (or who) was Newton, MA named after?

You know that I scrolled up & took another look at it, I think that the magnetic tentacles are actually worshiping the Obama!
I have to rethink this.

re: #218 Kosh's Shadow

Fig Einsteins are relatively good.

I'd like to offer everyone some of my Fig Heisenbergs, but I can't determine how many I have left.

I'm not much of a TV watcher, but I recently discovered Stargate SG-1. There are 10 seasons of that show, which goes to show just how out of the cultural loop I am, plus some spinoff shows. This Hubble photo reminded me of it. I also saw that the (real) US Air Force gave McGuyver an award at the AF 57th dinner.. for his role as an AF guy in these Stargate shows. I am catching up.

bbl

re: #227 Occasional Reader

I'd like to offer everyone some of my Fig Heisenbergs, but I can't determine how many I have left.

But I suppose you know where they are?

Behold! Evidence of HIS noodley appendages!

/FSM

re: #227 Occasional Reader

I'd like to offer everyone some of my Fig Heisenbergs, but I can't determine how many I have left.

They're my favorite. As long as they're in the package they're both fresh and stale at the same time.

G-d that is so cool!...did the Muslims invent that too? (Sorry, that was gratuitous...I don't know what came over me).

re: #230 CyanSnowHawk

But I suppose you know where they are?

I left then next to my Fig Schrodingers; which are simutaneously fresh, and stale.

re: #167 Bobblehead

Lizards are in sync today.

Nah I think it's just turned into a gecko chamber.

re: #231 Dan G.

Behold! Evidence of HIS noodley appendages!

/FSM

So the red shift is sauce then?

re: #232 Lizard by the Bay

Curses!

re: #216 Shug

The Perfect song for this thread

Here is another good one

re: #214 Kosh's Shadow

I'm not sure I understand your question.

The temperature of the star controls the color, and this is the "spectral classification" in the Hertzprung-Russel diagram, with the classes "OBAFGKM", with O being the hottest blue stars, down to the cool M stars. The Sun is a class G yellow star.

The further away a star is, the faster its apparent motion due to the expansion of the universe. Stars in this galaxy don't have much of a red shift, and you can't see individual stars in other galaxies without a powerful telescope and excellent seeing conditions.

And if you ever want to remember the spectral classes, remember "Oh Be a Fine Girl Kiss Me". I'm sure OR will want to teach all the Brazilian supermodels this.

(I teach astronomy online, as a part-time job)

How is the temperature of the star determined?.....in layman's terms ;-)

OT -

Have we discussed this guy before?

Finding Nemo, the Terrorist Librarian

As the war on terror continues to infiltrate the blogosphere, an increasing presence in the jihadi movement is a virtual terrorist who uses the nom de guerre Nemo.

Nemo — a name snatched from the title character of the 2003 Disney/Pixar movie "Finding Nemo" — has compiled a comprehensive archive of virtual terrorist training manuals and posted them all online...

re: #232 Lizard by the Bay

Those are Fig Schroedinger's.

Or, wait, are those the ones that are either eaten or not?

re: #227 Occasional Reader

I'd likewise offer my Fig Schrodingers, but they're both fresh and rotten.

re: #228 Sunlight

I'm not much of a TV watcher, but I recently discovered Stargate SG-1. There are 10 seasons of that show, which goes to show just how out of the cultural loop I am, plus some spinoff shows. This Hubble photo reminded me of it. I also saw that the (real) US Air Force gave McGuyver an award at the AF 57th dinner.. for his role as an AF guy in these Stargate shows. I am catching up.

The 10th season involves some ascended beings, the Ori, who have a religion that is conquering all its galaxy and ours, destroying worlds that won't submit.
I think they have a mind control device in the Kaaba.

re: #236 CyanSnowHawk

Sure, why not?

re: #238 Kosh's Shadow

Here is another good one

Please don't do Rocket Man by Elton John & especially read by Captain Kirk

Which reminds me of another joke. Why did Einstein cross the road? To get away from Bohr, but when he crossed the street, Bohr was there too.

re: #223 jcm

Each element in star gives off a spectral spikes, that spectral spikes is at a specific frequencies. Hydrogen has spikes at 410.2 nm, 434.1 nm 484.1 nm and 656.3 nm. Those peaks are fixed and the relation between them fixed. A spectrum from a star those peaks won't be at those values they'll be slight high values for the red shift (away), slight lower for a blue (toward). The peaks are identifiable because the distance between them doesn't changes, so by measure how far off the know spectral emission, the shift can be measured.

That did it! Thanks

re: #224 Kosh's Shadow

Be Sirius.

Celestial pun Rigel-ry!

re: #239 eschew_obfuscation

How is the temperature of the star determined?.....in layman's terms ;-)

The more mass, the hotter the star. The fusion at the core keeps the star from collapsing, so it must produce enough pressure to withstand the weight of all the outer layers of the star. And, in fact, it is that weight that generates the pressure that allows fusion to start, which then stabilizes the star.
So the quick answer, is the temperature depends on the mass, but there are variations near the beginning and end of a star's life.
Interesting that a star with ten times the mass of the Sun, and thus ten times the fuel, has a lifetime of a few hundred thousand years before it uses up its "fuel", while the Sun has a lifetime of 10 billion years. Big stars are the Hummers of the stars.

re: #242 Dan G.

I'd likewise offer my Fig Schrodingers, but they're both fresh and rotten.

No thanks, I'll have the Plancked salmon.

re: #241 Dianna

Those are Fig Schroedinger's.

Or, wait, are those the ones that are either eaten or not?

So you can have your Fig Schroedinger, and eat it, too.

This is gonna leave a mark....
Brutal: New ad hammers Obama over Ayers;

re: #249 Kosh's Shadow

Cool! (or hot ) Thanks!

OT but finally something impressive about Obama.
Obama's Snorkel

re: #250 CyanSnowHawk

No thanks, I'll have the Plancked salmon.

Don't be such a Bohr.

re: #250 CyanSnowHawk

I'm sitting out of the pun exchanges... it's not that puns are Bohring, I'm just not that good at them.

re: #254 big steve

OT but finally something impressive about Obama.
Obama's Snorkel

OMG.

re: #245 opnion

Please don't do Rocket Man by Elton John & especially read by Captain Kirk

Or Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, as recited (not sung) by Shatner. Notice I didn't link to it.

What an intelligent design.

re: #252 Killgore Trout

This is gonna leave a mark....
Brutal: New ad hammers Obama over Ayers;

I hope Fox News picks up one that one......that'll sting just a bit!

re: #256 Dan G.

I'm sitting out of the pun exchanges... it's not that puns are Bohring, I'm just not that good at them.

Feynmann, no need to jump in if you feel uncertain, but don't Salk about it.

re: #258 Kosh's Shadow

Thank you for your restraint.

There are only so many "man on the street"s I can listen to before I want to vomit.

I didn't look very closely upthread and if someone else has posted this, my apologies, but I found a video of the volleyball team thanking Bush.

volleyball thank you to Bush

gigantic gaseous filaments up to 20,000 light years long

Who wants to race!? First to run from one end to the other wins!