Ah yes, the CERN rap video.... what can one say - physicists can't dance?

*LOL* Charles, this is hilarious.

Loves it.

Yay! A bicycle makes a cameo appearance.

The fabric of space and time is vastly overrated.

"When Nerds Collide" -- I thought this was the Obama VEEP choice thread...

Gak! We're all gonna die!

/

Awesome! Only in America Switzerland.

:heavy sigh:

LHC in the house!

That may be the first use of the phrase "handedness of spin" in a lyric.

scary....in many ways.

What a coincidence. I was humming that song in the shower this morning.

lol

ok, seeing the roundness now. Switched from IE.

OT: Flash player plugin not so rounded...

re: #6 christheprofessor

No, that would be the "When Nerds Collude" thread.

I learned more physics in this 4:49 than in that year in high school....

This is hilarious! Who says Physicists don't have a sense of humor!

re: #8 Slumbering Behemoth

Awesome! Only in America Switzerland.

:heavy sigh:

Don't get down. We always go through phases of up and down :) . But when there's an up, the world is pretty much forced to notice.

CERN?

Apparently Switzerland's scientists have survived the onslaught of Creationism, then.

So just how big IS a large hadron? I mean, are there small, medium, and large hadrons?

/Or am I missing something?

"That's a rap.
Let's split."

Oddly, I feel smarter having watched that.

Will it make Obama go away?

The microuniverses' corners are rounded, too.

Your tax dollars at work.
Better on this than other stuff.

re: #17 wrenchwench

I learned more physics in this 4:49 than in that year in high school....

you have a point there - what does that say about the way it is taught and the teachers?

Schoolhouse Rock for gangsta physicists.

All that just for a particle.

re: #26 lifeofthemind

Relatively few American tax dollars went into this. The American project (SSC) was canceled years ago.

The Bad News: We're all going to die when that black hole is spawned by CERN's LHC.

The Good News: Europe will be sucked in first.

re: #23 Racer X

Oddly, I feel smarter having watched that.

Do not stay in a Holiday Inn tonight!

Possible overload.

Isn't part of the Collider in Switzerland?

/surely the Swiss Creationists will storm it with torches and pitchforks and destroy it, heathen science will not be tolerated

listening again. I'm trippin boo.

Cern is set to startup on Sept. 10. I suspect announcements of initial findings will be made within a week or so.

It's 17 miles in circumference. There's a Starbucks every 2.42 miles.

re: #19 boofar

:sniffle: Promise? :)
/

They probably use this cRap in school to try to interest kids in science...

Because the DNC-approved teachers can't...

re: #33 Killian Bundy

yes, the accelerator crosses the French/Swiss border.

"Handedness of spin" is a great line.

Laugh it up chuckle heads, it going to be real funny when the generates a black hole and it sucks earth in!

/

re: #36 HelloDare

It's 17 miles in circumference. There's a Starbucks every 2.42 miles.

There's no Starbucks anywhere at CERN. They have much better French or Swiss style coffee

I like this one better.

Supercollider, Tribe.

re: #42 Kenneth

There's no Starbucks anywhere at CERN. They have much better French or Swiss style coffee

Espresso...

re: #40 Cognito

"Handedness of spin" is a great line.

Bosons and fermions oh! my.

re: #27 Bobibutu

you have a point there - what does that say about the way it is taught and the teachers?

I'm sure the background from then helped now. Plus, I'm probably one of the few here who has toured a particle accelerator before.

re: #30 freetoken

There was a significant US contribution to the LHC and the various detectors involved. Many fine US scientists & engineers have worked on this project, and hundreds of millions of US taxpayer dollars have been invested.

Heh. We're getting first peeks at the convention setups, and the Democrats can be summed up as "reddish, whitish, and whaaaaa?"

The GOP has decided for what can be described only as traditional and intimate. The Democrats went with rock star glitz - perhaps to make folks forget the fact that Obama is actually an empty suit.

Speaking of tradition... Tradition!

Illegal Immigrants Returning to Mexico in Record Numbers.
DALLAS — Illegal immigrants are returning home to Mexico in numbers not seen for decades — and the Mexican government may have to deal with a crush on its social services and lower wages once the immigrants arrive.

The Mexican Consulate's office in Dallas is seeing increasing numbers of Mexican nationals requesting paperwork to go home for good, especially parents who want to know what documentation they'll need to enroll their children in Mexican schools.

"Those numbers have increased percentage-wise tremendously," said Enrique Hubbard, the Mexican consul general in Dallas. "In fact, it's almost 100 percent more this year than it was the previous two years."

The illegal immigrant population in the U.S. has dropped 11 percent since August of last year, according to the Center for Immigration Studies. Its research shows 1.3 million illegal immigrants have returned to their home countries.

Some say illegal immigrants are leaving because a soft economy has led to fewer jobs, causing many laborers to seek work elsewhere.

Others argue that a tough stance on immigration through law enforcement has spread fear throughout the illegal population.

My God, what if it's really made of strings?

/for starters, you can trash all the high school science textbooks, not to mention our fundamental understanding of reality

E=M.C. Hawking (language warning)

re: #50 Killian Bundy

My God, what if it's really made of strings?

/for starters, you can trash all the high school science textbooks, not to mention our fundamental understanding of reality

It's the brane, man. The brane!

Fox News confirming it's not Va. governor Tim Kaine.

re: #50 Killian Bundy

My God, what if it's really made of strings?

/for starters, you can trash all the high school science textbooks, not to mention our fundamental understanding of reality

It'd Turtles I'm telling you, dammit turtles all the way down.

Check out the graphic on this page -
[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]

re: #53 Charles

Fox News confirming it's not Va. governor Tim Kaine.

Putin Kaine out to pasture.

It's Biden.

I've got ten LGF Bux riding on it.

Or heck. Ten million.

re: #37 Slumbering Behemoth

:sniffle: Promise? :)
/

Yep :) . First we won WWII, then decided it was a good idea to put a man on the moon, then went on to invent and implement the single greatest form of communication out there... ever... the Internet (regardless of what the euros say about some dude being the "father" of the Internet).

re: #53 Charles

Fox News confirming it's not Va. governor Tim Kaine.

So, that narrows things down. /sarc

Not bad for geeks.

About 2:20 too long, though.

Artists...

re: #53 Charles

Fox News confirming it's not Va. governor Tim Kaine.

Bwahahahahahaha!

Obama is biden his time in make his mind, bayh and bayh we'll all find out. Who ever he chooses will raise kaine with a few folks.

re: #49 HelloDare

Some say illegal immigrants are leaving because a soft economy has led to fewer jobs, causing many laborers to seek work elsewhere.

Others argue that a tough stance on immigration through law enforcement has spread fear throughout the illegal population.

Here's an idea.

Why doesn't somebody just ask them?

re: #50 Killian Bundy

My God, what if it's really made of strings?

/for starters, you can trash all the high school science textbooks, not to mention our fundamental understanding of reality

It's not strings. It's cheese. Swiss cheese to be precise.

More information about Cern & LHC is here. [Link: public.web.cern.ch...]

re: #63 Silhouette

Are you nuts? That would make sense.

re: #55 galloping granny

Check out the graphic on this page -
[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]

Messiah Tse-Tung, ROFLOL!

Wonder if he'll use a teleprompter to make the announcement? Oh, that's right. He's going to text it. His handlers don't trust him to speak off the cuff.

On the CERN rap video, I loved the message, but had to turn it off due to the music. Rap gets on my nerves....

re: #46 wrenchwench

I'm sure the background from then helped now. Plus, I'm probably one of the few here who has toured a particle accelerator before.

Ah - that had to be a cool tour. Best I've done is attend several physics conferences in S'land back in the 70s and 80s. Prof. Bose was a presenter and ummmmm . scuse me I'm havin' an Obama moment here . ... ummm damn! comon' neurological pathways! Ah some fruit loop who won a Nobel ... ah! Brian Josephson - who made a complete @ss out of himself during his preso. Should have stuck to physics and let the meta alone.

re: #67 gop_patriot

Messiah Tse-Tung, ROFLOL!

That story is, BTW, on the front page at Rush's - top dead center. The most prime real estate on the page.

Oooo, that Obama. He's so hip. He texts! Just, you know, totally like, you know, us.

/easily impressed played youts.

I knew Hadron built a wall, but I didn't realize he built a collider.

re: #69 loflyer

On the CERN rap video, I loved the message, but had to turn it off due to the music. Rap gets on my nerves....

I hate to take the unenviable -- if not impossible -- position of defending rap, but I feel compelled to say that while CERN's scientist are brilliant, they are perhaps not musical mad geniuses, like these guys.

Did that blow the LGF collective mind?

re: #46 wrenchwench

All kidding aside ... you probably have a few stories (very unique) to tell. Would love to know what you have put your spanner around.

re: #72 Silhouette

Oooo, that Obama. He's so hip. He texts! Just, you know, totally like, you know, us.

/easily impressed played youts.

OMG! Like it's some dude named joe like i jus got the txt frum O! im like totaly freaking out heer! wat DU like no about this joe guy? i think hes like old but not old like mccain. like whatever!

What does Obama have anything to do with this? He didn't invent the LHC.

re: #74 Cognito

I hate to take the unenviable -- if not impossible -- position of defending rap, but I feel compelled to say that while CERN's scientist are brilliant, they are perhaps not musical mad geniuses, like these guys.

Wow! Forget my inane comments on rap and CERN, that vid was hot! Did you see the chick on the pole?
/grabbing another beer!

Remember that quiz a reporter gave Bush? Asked him if he knew who the leader of some country was?

Quiz for Obama.

1. How many states are there?

2. Are you on the Senate Banking Committee?

3. How many bombs hit Pear Harbor?
a. One
b. Two
c. More than two.

4. If you are elected President, how many years will you serve?
a. 8 to 10
b. 4 to 8
c. 2 to 6

5. True or False. China's ports, train system and airports are vastly superior to the United States'?

re: #73 Silhouette

It was at Masada, which was alt-Hebrew for Higgs-boson.

re: #80 HelloDare

Remember that quiz a reporter gave Bush? Asked him if he knew who the leader of some country was?

Quiz for Obama.

1. How many states are there?

2. Are you on the Senate Banking Committee?

3. How many bombs hit Pear Harbor?
a. One
b. Two
c. More than two.

4. If you are elected President, how many years will you serve?
a. 8 to 10
b. 4 to 8
c. 2 to 6

5. True or False. China's ports, train system and airports are vastly superior to the United States'?

It was Pakistan.

re: #63 Silhouette

Here's an idea.

Why doesn't somebody just ask them?

No habla Ingles!

Did they design this accelerator for the theoretical possibility of 9+ physical dimensions?

/smaller components of "mass" than we're currently aware of, moving really fast and all

The young lady who produced, wrote, and starred in that video is Kate McAlpine, a 23-year old American science writer who's working for CERN.

[Link: www.katemcalpine.com...]

I'm a fan.

We are doomed, it's all over, Biden just put B.O. over the top. Theres no way for Mccain to win now. I am moving to Georgia where I know who the enemy is and i am allowed to shoot them. !HAH~!~
Hillary was the only one who would make me worry. She actually would have brought votes to the ticket. The only thing left to do now is listen for squeaking sound out of the daily kos for the next 2 months.

re: #80 HelloDare

6. Which army liberated Auschwitz?

7. What is the role of the Joint Chiefs of Staff?

Fox News just confirmed IT'S HILLARY!

Not only is BHO a Gramscian Whore of the Caliphate, he's an Attention Whore.

re: #88 occasional reader

Fox News just confirmed IT'S HILLARY!

Hillary's at Biden's house?

Just kidding. Heh.

re: #88 occasional reader

Fox News just confirmed IT'S HILLARY!

You must be watching a different Fox News than I am.

re: #89 MandyManners

Not only is BHO a Gramscian Whore of the Caliphate, he's an Attention Whore.

More of an attention slut; a whore expects to be paid.

re: #86 ypnxjkb

We are doomed, it's all over, Biden just put B.O. over the top. Theres no way for Mccain to win now. I am moving to Georgia where I know who the enemy is and i am allowed to shoot them. !HAH~!~
Hillary was the only one who would make me worry. She actually would have brought votes to the ticket. The only thing left to do now is listen for squeaking sound out of the daily kos for the next 2 months.

Never, ever count your chickens before they hatch!

re: #81 lawhawk

It was at Masada, which was alt-Hebrew for Higgs-boson.

?

So not Colonel Mustard in the conservatory?

re: #88 occasional reader

Fox News just confirmed IT'S HILLARY!

Must be in that alt-universe where Obama is running for dog catcher, and Hillary's his running mate.

re: #93 OldLineTexan

Oh BHO was expecting to get paid for sure. And we were the ones who were going to do the paying.

re: #87 Kenneth

6. Which army liberated Auschwitz?

7. What is the role of the Joint Chiefs of Staff?

8. Which countries have UNSC veto power?

re: #93 OldLineTexan

More of an attention slut; a whore expects to be paid.

He does expect to be paid. By us. To the tune of some $400,000 or so, plus a free house.

re: #91 occasional reader
christ, you scared me!

re: #88 occasional reader

Fox News just confirmed IT'S HILLARY!

You almost had me, then I saw the poster name.

re: #95 Silhouette

Lepton conclusion.

Only geeks... Specifially scientist geeks...

re: #88 occasional reader

Fox News just confirmed IT'S HILLARY!

That'd be the only legitimate reason for dragging it out this far, surprise.

/we all guessed it was Biden already, for at least a week now, it was the Bonkey poll league leader, you made us wait for this?

re: #97 ypnxjkb

Oh BHO was expecting to get paid for sure. And we were the ones who were going to do the paying.

I think as far as "attention" goes, no one's paying him to want it. More of an attention addiction. Goes straight to the narcissism issue.

re: #92 galloping granny

You must be watching a different Fox News than I am.

They are reporting that the one will enlighten us at 10am.
Then a big rally in Springfield IL at 3pm.

re: #101 Silhouette

You almost had me, then I saw the poster name.

I resemble that remark!

re: #100 willowone

christ, you scared me!

Is christ the professor here?

/

All that lacks is a bone crushing guitar solo when someone over there says...oops!

i believe Killgore trout? s/n posted another on this collider also a very nice video. i sent it to my teenage kids emails, they also enjoyed and shared. whatever works. keep science alive!

re: #84 Killian Bundy

Check the link I gave above to CERN. The energy level of the LHC will be enough to find the Higgs if it has a mass within theoretical limits. They should also be able to detect super-symmetric particles. Most versions of String Theory are based on scales still to small to detect with the LHC, but some some aspects of string theory might be accessible.

re: #108 OldLineTexan

Is christ the professor here?

/

I get that Christ thing all the time. Must be the sandals.

re: #87 Kenneth

re: #98 occasional reader

How could I forget. Thanks.

re: #104 Killian Bundy

That'd be the only legitimate reason for dragging it out this far, surprise.

/we all guessed it was Biden already, for at least a week now, it was the Bonkey poll league leader, you made us wait for this?

I'm thinking that the only reason it has been dragged out this long is because he has been turned down once or twice. Think about it here. He was apparently going to announce while he was on vaca. Didn't happen. He has been going downhill fairly steadily and has had a couple of really bad weeks now. He is barely tied with McCain - even though Obama is outspending McCain 10:1. If you were a Kaine or a Bayh with aspirations to the national stage, would you want to tie yourself to Obama?

re: #90 MandyManners

Hillary's at Biden's house?

It's a pajama party pillow fight!

re: #106 opnion

They are reporting that the one will enlighten us at 10am.
Then a big rally in Springfield IL at 3pm.

They have been reporting the day that Obama would enlighten us for a couple of weeks now.

Ugh. Pamela is refusing to let go of the bogus birth certificate. It's gonna be like that.

re: #113 HelloDare

I love that Quiz. I hope you keep adding to it and post it again. It could be quite fun and... useful!

re: #88 occasional reader

If Hillary were the VP, Obama would probably win the election. Leave it to the dems to screw it up. In Kerry they found the only guy who could lose to Bush. Now they got Obama who is even further left than Kerry. But they could still win if they made Hillary the VP. But they won't.

re: #116 galloping granny

They have been reporting the day that Obama would enlighten us for a couple of weeks now.

Like I said, timed to coincide with Russian pullout...

The "big O" looking for the perfect running mate, sometimes good is better than best. I hope McCain selects a good one. The invasion of Georgia opened some liberal minds to the ramifications of the Obama and Democrat official foreign policy of appeasement and retreat.....

re: #116 galloping granny

If by enlighten you mean get folks worried that Obama is out of his league and clueless and yet has managed to bamboozle so many people simply by being able to say - hey I'm a Democrat and not named Clinton so there's hope and change for us yet, then, yes, he has enlightened.

The problem is, Obama doesn't sound enlightened the moment he goes off script.

re: #117 Charles
i hope she isn't a republican, it will help to make lefts case that we are wacked.

re: #117 Charles

Well, is she still sleeping with the neo-nazis? Pathetic.

re: #116 galloping granny

They have been reporting the day that Obama would enlighten us for a couple of weeks now.

I know. At this point it is hubris. Notice me.
Mccain is now eating his lunch and I am surprised.

re: #116 galloping granny

They have been reporting the day that Obama would enlighten us for a couple of weeks now.

I'm still waiting for the clouds to part and the beam of light to come down from "somewhere" and have an epiphany!

/

re: #117 Charles

Ugh. Pamela is refusing to let go of the bogus birth certificate. It's gonna be like that.

He's a secret Muslim!

/

re: #121 loflyer

The "big O" looking for the perfect running mate, sometimes good is better than best. I hope McCain selects a good one. The invasion of Georgia opened some liberal minds to the ramifications of the Obama and Democrat official foreign policy of appeasement and retreat.....

Ya really think so? Here's hoping.

re: #123 willowone

Dude, every family has a crazy aunt. The difference is we know it.

I didn't understand what the collider was for before, but now I understand they're looking into Ω. Thanks, nerdy rappers!

re: #122 lawhawk

If by enlighten you mean get folks worried that Obama is out of his league and clueless and yet has managed to bamboozle so many people simply by being able to say - hey I'm a Democrat and not named Clinton so there's hope and change for us yet, then, yes, he has enlightened.

The problem is, Obama doesn't sound enlightened the moment he goes off script.

If you mean the stammering like a fool, his people are trying to sell it as thoughtful

re: #93 OldLineTexan

More of an attention slut; a whore expects to be paid.

Soros is paying him.

re: #129 Kenneth
yes but i tie mine up with the strongest duct tape only let them out for cute family pics,; P

re: #125 opnion

I know. At this point it is hubris. Notice me.
Mccain is now eating his lunch and I am surprised.

I am not surprised at all. Obama doesn't really have much experience running for office or handling the press. He has never once had a real opponent. His style is to move heaven and earth to get them thrown off the ballot rather than actually engage. John McCain was practically born knowing how to play the game. If you don't think being a military officer isn't every bit as much playing politics as being an elected official is, think again. McCain isn't even trying hard yet. He doesn't have to because Obama keeps handing him desert on a plate.

re: #118 Kenneth

I love that Quiz. I hope you keep adding to it and post it again. It could be quite fun and... useful!

I may suggest the idea to some websites.

My leg is tingling.

re: #135 HelloDare

Heck, maybe Charles will deem it thread-worthy!

re: #136 Killgore Trout

My leg is tingling.

Stroke! Call 911.

re: #136 Killgore Trout

Sorry, but I think it's just the cat scratching your shin.

re: #134 galloping granny

I am not surprised at all. Obama doesn't really have much experience running for office or handling the press. He has never once had a real opponent. His style is to move heaven and earth to get them thrown off the ballot rather than actually engage. John McCain was practically born knowing how to play the game. If you don't think being a military officer isn't every bit as much playing politics as being an elected official is, think again. McCain isn't even trying hard yet. He doesn't have to because Obama keeps handing him desert on a plate.

Yeah Baby! The successful ones get it - the rest join the civilian sector after their second tour (or later).

Interesting and cute but not educational.

re: #134 galloping granny

I am not surprised at all. Obama doesn't really have much experience running for office or handling the press. He has never once had a real opponent. His style is to move heaven and earth to get them thrown off the ballot rather than actually engage. John McCain was practically born knowing how to play the game. If you don't think being a military officer isn't every bit as much playing politics as being an elected official is, think again. McCain isn't even trying hard yet. He doesn't have to because Obama keeps handing him desert on a plate.

I hear you. It is surprisjng though that with all of the media gushing, that things are coming unglued so fast. There is a lot more to come out about that psycho little cretin, Bill Ayers & Barry.

re: #141 maddogg

Interesting and cute but not educational.

Obama?

re: #141 maddogg

Interesting and cute but not educational.

You learned nothing new?

re: #136 Killgore Trout

My leg is tingling.

That is what is known as the Chris Matthews Syndrome

re: #128 Bobibutu

Ya really think so? Here's hoping.

A lot of Americans are a mix of "liberal" and "conservative" ideas, I cannot buy into the Republican party 100 percent, and neither can the Democrat center buy into Obama. I am keeping my gut feeling on this election to myself. But, I do predict an upset to the American MSM and their bid to orchesrate American opinion through the election cycle, just like we did in 2004.....
/Thanks Charles!

re: #144 Bobibutu
No.

re: #142 opnion

I hear you. It is surprisjng though that with all of the media gushing, that things are coming unglued so fast. There is a lot more to come out about that psycho little cretin, Bill Ayers & Barry.

It isn't even just the media gush. It is the fact that Obama outspent Hillary 10:1, and last month he spent more to run just one ad than John McCain spent on his entire campaign and Obama STILL is sinking day by day and finds himself in a statistical tie.

re: #85 Purple Fury

The young lady who produced, wrote, and starred in that video is Kate McAlpine, a 23-year old American science writer who's working for CERN.

[Link: www.katemcalpine.com...]

I'm a fan.

Nice girl. If she joined one of the services and actually helped out for a few years then I would think better of her.

re: #148 galloping granny

It isn't even just the media gush. It is the fact that Obama outspent Hillary 10:1, and last month he spent more to run just one ad than John McCain spent on his entire campaign and Obama STILL is sinking day by day and finds himself in a statistical tie.

A beautiful thing!

re: #136 Killgore Trout

My leg is tingling.

mustrefrainmustrefrainmustrefrainmustrefrainmustre frain

As a local dumbass I found this as informative as the DiscScience channel presentation a couple of weeks ago. This should be required viewing for all high schools in the U.S. I believe the presentation would turn around a decline in interest in science.

I appreciate your following the development of the LHC and keeping us not so nerdly up to date.

re: #141 maddogg

Interesting and cute but not educational.

Sounds like a boy I dated in high school.

re: #146 loflyer

A lot of Americans are a mix of "liberal" and "conservative" ideas, I cannot buy into the Republican party 100 percent, and neither can the Democrat center buy into Obama. I am keeping my gut feeling on this election to myself. But, I do predict an upset to the American MSM and their bid to orchesrate American opinion through the election cycle, just like we did in 2004.....
/Thanks Charles!

I can op in for that - just depends how comfortable you are - being screwed by a right or left handed thread. I'll take right with the afforded lubrication.

re: #149 lifeofthemind

McAlpine is definitely hot. I'll be less impressed if she blows up the planet, the solar system, and the galaxy, however.

re: #153 MandyManners

Sounds like a boy I dated in high school.

Oh, I bet you gave him an education...

I have nothing against the collider, but for that song; 'Yo! they need a cap in they ass!'

The DNC must be getting fairly nervous about their nominee, and the convention hasn't even started, The "Remember '68" crowd seem fairly organized, I suspect a Democrat debacle is in the works next week!

If the damned Congress hadn't killed the Supercollider, We would have an accellerator to make CERN look like a rubber band gun. Dammit, short sighted morons.

re: #41 jcm

Laugh it up chuckle heads, it going to be real funny when the generates a black hole and it sucks earth in!

/

The sober, spoil-the-party version of his point is this:

If the kind of energy CERN plays with could create black holes that would suck in the earth, how come cosmic rays, which are far more energetic, haven't already slagged the moon? A cosmic ray strikes it, with heap big energy compared to CERN...daily, even hourly. And never does the moon just collapse in upon itself into a black hole, showering out some spare change of energy, oh, say, more in a few seconds than the sun generates in a million years.

Not only does this not happen to our own moon. It doesn't happen anywhere in this galaxy, because if it did, it would be a spectacular fireworks show and we'd see it. And anyhow, all those fireworks shows would have happened long since, and there really wouldn't be anything left of anything. Just black holes spinning in the orbits where stars used to be.

The sky won't fall. Some doomsayers will have their souffles deflated, and life will go on.

Just saw the McCain "Ayers" commercial. Very hard hitting, talking about how Obama's campaign started in Ayers house, and of course all the activities we all know about. It is one thing to hear it on radio and another to see it on TV..

It made me wonder what the Dem candidate will be like in 4 or 8 more years...

"And the Dem candidate is a known pedophile, raping and murdering at least 15 children in the last 10 years......"

Why is Obama even an item?

re: #159 maddogg

We have a spallation neutron source. Does that make it any better?

re: #159 maddogg

Yup, it's a bummer. Sadly the Europeans are more interested in science than we are. I hope to see that change someday soon.

Update: Obama's text message will go out tomorrow morning.

So, step away from your crackberries media pundits, and get some sleep. You'll need it to deal with that tingly sensation you'll have when Obama reveals his one true choice.

re: #149 lifeofthemind

Not fair. Science has its place also in life. There is work to be done other than fighting. In fact, the Soviet Union spun into economic and cultural collapse because they forgot that fact. Before them, also, Sparta.

So will these particles blow out the other end of Sylvester the Cat's tail?

That's what I want to know.

Funny scientists--I love it! Makes them & what they're teaching much more approachable & interesting to kids.

/we need more science threads like this one--thanks!

re: #166 godfrey

You could look, but you wouldn't be able to tell for sure. Besides, I respect the cat's privacy.

You know the more that I learn about Obama, he is a witches brew of African anti colonialism , Marxism, Anger, abandonment issues, racial animosity,lingering Islam& anti Americnism. Tie it all in with Saul alinsky & it is not pretty.

re: #156 Kenneth

*ahem*

re: #162 Silhouette

We have a spallation neutron source. Does that make it any better?

That AND the Super collider would make me feel superior to the Euroweenies, which we are.

I watched the video three times in a row. Very cool.

re: #35 Killgore Trout

Cern is set to startup on Sept. 10. I suspect announcements of initial findings will be made within a week or so.

Yes they will turn it on then but only for testing the beam. They wont actually "cross the streams" for several weeks, maybe even months after that.

Didn't Egon say it was bad to cross the streams lol

re: #159 maddogg

If the damned Congress hadn't killed the Supercollider, We would have an accellerator to make CERN look like a rubber band gun. Dammit, short sighted morons.

/can't blame the "Creationists" for that one

I'm still wiggin' out about entangled photons. Now everything is Higgsledy Piggsledy.

re: #69 loflyer

On the CERN rap video, I loved the message, but had to turn it off due to the music. Rap gets on my nerves....

It doesn't say in the credits, but I was wondering if that was Hawking's actual voice synthesizer.

Good stuff from the Nerd set!

re: #167 twincitiesgirl

Funny scientists--I love it! Makes them & what they're teaching much more approachable & interesting to kids.

/we need more science threads like this one--thanks!

We could use another Mr. Wizard.

Just stumbled on this .

Perception

When it comes to scientists and creationists, scientists have better toys.

re: #179 HelloDare

Oh that's good!

Photos shot before and after ice cave-in released

SNOQUALMIE PASS, Wash. - The family of two teenage boys who were rescued Thursday from beneath tons of ice have released photos taken seconds before an ice cave collapsed on them, and also of the successful rescue that followed.

I'm not wild about the rounded corners. Does anyone else feel sorta boxed in?

I think this guy could have jazzed up that video a bit.

The LHC is very cool, but I think it's going to be a big yawn. I'd be more excited about metamaterials.

PS - Is it just me or does a lot of today's music sound like nursery rhymes. Will people actually be driving along 50 years form now singing 'I'd like to be an Oscar Meyer Wiener' (Demolition Man reference.)

re: #179 HelloDare

That picture reminds me: the democratic headquarters in my town has a "shrine" in their office of JFK. There is a large picture of him on a shelf with flowers around it. It reminds me of a memorial service.

re: #183 godfrey

Curves are good.

re: #183 godfrey

I'm not wild about the rounded corners. Does anyone else feel sorta boxed in?

Switch to IE7.

/integrates better with XP than Firefox

rounded corners and light green are soothing. maybe we needed some bloggers Prozac.

re: #178 Sharmuta

We could use another Mr. Wizard.

re: #183 godfrey

I'm not wild about the rounded corners. Does anyone else feel sorta boxed in?

IE7, relief from rounded corners.

re: #167 twincitiesgirl

If you want a slightly more serious link: Brian Cox: An inside tour of the world's biggest supercollider

It's still plenty entertaining and informative. Very accessible.

re: #184 Mich-again

I think this guy could have jazzed up that video a bit.

That website keeps going and going...

Local Muslims to vote at Democratic conventionOLYMPIA - Nearly 100 delegates will represent Washington state in Denver next week when the Democratic National Convention kicks off.

One of those delegates is former Army Chaplain James Yee, one of a handful of local Muslims making a mark on this presidential election.

re: #182 jcm

I've been to Snoqualmie Falls - pretty impressive stuff, it's a wonder those kids made it. Luck was definitely on their side.

re: #187 Sharmuta

Certain curves are always good.

IE? Never.

re: #194 jcm

Local Muslims to vote at Democratic conventionOLYMPIA - Nearly 100 delegates will represent Washington state in Denver next week when the Democratic National Convention kicks off.

One of those delegates is former Army Chaplain James Yee, one of a handful of local Muslims making a mark on this presidential election.

I want as much Muslim exposure as possible.

re: #186 bellamags

That picture reminds me: the democratic headquarters in my town has a "shrine" in their office of JFK. There is a large picture of him on a shelf with flowers around it. It reminds me of a memorial service.

I heard that in Catholic houses in Ireland, JFK's picture was hung like pictures of the Blessed Virgin.

re: #198 HelloDare

Now there's irony for ya.

re: #195 lawhawk

I've been to Snoqualmie Falls - pretty impressive stuff, it's a wonder those kids made it. Luck was definitely on their side.

No kidding, a few inches this way or that on a few block of ice.

re: #198 HelloDare

I heard that in Catholic houses in Ireland, JFK's picture was hung like pictures of the Blessed Virgin.

Beats the hell out of Cromwell.

re: #195 lawhawk

Those falls looks nice. Is it true Niagara has worn down so much that it now looks like water over a curb?

re: #197 opnion

I want as much Muslim exposure as possible.

Not so much the muslims, it's Yee... awful lot of smoke and no fire? I wonder if security concerns out weighed delivering evidence for prosecution.

Obama/Abraham, Martin and John 08

Finally got video loaded to youtube of the storm yesterday.

Here is a vid of our yard right before the tree fell (like 5 seconds).

Before

And here is the vid after we calmed down (about 5 minutes). Remember, we were standing on the porch when the horrible sound of the tree ripping in half started. We got in the house so fast - it was probably funny to watch.

After

The video was shot from the same location.

re: #191 maddogg

IE7, relief from rounded corners.

Firefox makes IE7 look like a piker. MicroSoft is spending a ton of money upgrading Windows IE because it is so crappy. I am sticking with Firefox!

Radio news.

BHO veep announcement in the morning.

re: #198 HelloDare

thats what it reminded me of. I actually halted mid-step while I walked past the window.

re: #178 Sharmuta

We could use another Mr. Wizard.

I'm getting you one; he'll be nine next month, so it will be a while, sorry.

re: #186 bellamags

That picture reminds me: the democratic headquarters in my town has a "shrine" in their office of JFK. There is a large picture of him on a shelf with flowers around it. It reminds me of a memorial service.

I'm in Bethesda, MD, for my last night, and just down from an Obama office. I love all the posters in the window:

Pride for Obama (rainbow colored)
Republicans for Obama
Environmentalists for Obama (green)
Women for Obama
Latinos for Obama

and on and on it goes. Nothing substantive in the window about Obama's policies, and nothing but these divisive posters. I'm so glad we're now to a place where we're not Americans but carefully separated interest groups. /sarc

b.o. hasn't announced yet because hillary has got him in a headlock.

re: #205 bellamags

Nice of it to fall away from the house!

re: #211 nyc redneck

b.o. hasn't announced yet because hillary has got him in a headlock.

Leg scissors.

re: #206 loflyer

Firefox makes IE7 look like a piker.

/how?

re: #212 godfrey

no kidding. lol

re: #202 godfrey

Not at all. The Canadian and US govt have limited the amount of water going over Niagara to preserve it as much as possible - plus the water diverted goes to power production. They reduce the waterflow even more at night, storing it up in reservoirs nearby for release during the day into their power generation systems.

It's still a sight to behold, but not nearly as wild as it was 100 or even 50 years ago.

So who thinks Biden is a head fake?

re: #198 HelloDare

I heard that in Catholic houses in Ireland, JFK's picture was hung like pictures of the Blessed Virgin

I'm not sure I would put any Kennedy anywhere near any virgin. Picture or otherwise.

re: #216 lawhawk

Ah, that's why! Thanks for the info.

Whatever happened to Laurie Dhue?

/the female Shep Smith, we could use her right now

re: #210 Palandine

I'm in Bethesda, MD, for my last night, and just down from an Obama office. I love all the posters in the window:

Pride for Obama (rainbow colored)
Republicans for Obama
Environmentalists for Obama (green)
Women for Obama
Latinos for Obama

and on and on it goes. Nothing substantive in the window about Obama's policies, and nothing but these divisive posters. I'm so glad we're now to a place where we're not Americans but carefully separated interest groups. /sarc

Have you noticed the bumper stickers " Got Hope?"

re: #217 godfrey

So who thinks Biden is a head fake?

Drudge had Kaine and Bayh out.
If it's not Biden, it a hell of head fake. Sibelius or Chet?

re: #221 opnion

Have you noticed the bumper stickers " Got Hope?"

Hope? Nope!

re: #221 opnion

I see them that say "I think, therefore I vote DEMOCRAT" that one always makes me laugh.

re: #167 twincitiesgirl
the tune is kind of catchy I started dancing around the room until my beagle gave me the evil eye...

Here's another interesting science link on the Phoenix Mars Mission for kids.

re: #218 Outrider

I'm not sure I would put any Kennedy anywhere near any virgin. Picture or otherwise.

Be great to photoshop. Her eyes looking at him apprehensively.

re: #220 Killian Bundy

Whatever happened to Laurie Dhue?

/the female Shep Smith, we could use her right now

FOX traded her for another blond and two future draft picks.

re: #225 twincitiesgirl

lol. my husband gave me the evil eye. was catchy though.

re: #224 bellamags

I see them that say "I think, therefore I vote DEMOCRAT" that one always makes me laugh.

Friends don't let Friends vote Republican.

re: #224 bellamags

I see them that say "I think, therefore I vote DEMOCRAT" that one always makes me laugh.

And they could not give you one good reason!

re: #221 opnion

Have you noticed the bumper stickers " Got Hope?"

*Shudders*

My Hope is that Obama picks Biden. Next to Kerry, it's the worst choice he could make. I was really scared he'd pick Clinton (and become unbeatable), Caroline Kennedy, Governor Sibelius, or Bayh (who struck me as fairly impressive for a Dem when I lived in Indiana).

Biden? BIDEN? He's making it too easy.

re: #231 Palandine

*Shudders*

My Hope is that Obama picks Biden. Next to Kerry, it's the worst choice he could make. I was really scared he'd pick Clinton (and become unbeatable), Caroline Kennedy, Governor Sibelius, or Bayh (who struck me as fairly impressive for a Dem when I lived in Indiana).

Biden? BIDEN? He's making it too easy.

Oh man. I agree. Give us Obama/Biden.

re: #229 jcm

lame. they need to come up with some better one-liners like "Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy" (I personally had that one on my bimmer)

re: #209 OldLineTexan

Of course- a Ms. Wizard would be great too.

re: #229 jcm

Friends don't let Friends vote Republican.

Quakers are Democrats?

Space wank guitar over reggae vamp: Particle.

re: #217 godfrey

So who thinks Biden is a head fake?

i think he is but i wish he wasn't.

re: #235 Outrider

Quakers are Democrats?

LOL!

re: #219 godfrey

For the following times: April to Sept. 15 8:00 am to 10:00 pm and Sept. 16 to Oct. 31 8:00 am to 8:00 pm, the flow is maxed out at 2832 metres/sec; all other times, it's half that.

Gatewaypundit happened to be driving by the printing company where the reports of Obama/Bayh were being reported on earlier. They interviewed the reporter who broke that story. It's an interesting video of a blogger interviewing a reporter. The reporter seems pretty convinced that it's Obama/Bayh:
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

re: #238 jcm

Video gamers vote?

Good night Lizards.As always, you have been fun, informative & a damn good looking group. See ya!

I see a lot of Fair Tax bumper stickers in my neck of the woods.

re: #229 jcm

Friends don't let Friends vote Republican.

Republicans don't think about "Letting" their friends do or not do anything. Totalitarians always show their hand.

Okay, as a bumper sticker, it isn't as catchy.

re: #163 Killgore Trout

Yup, it's a bummer. Sadly the Europeans are more interested in science than we are. I hope to see that change someday soon.

I believe it was either Mars or supercollider.

re: #165 lostlakehiker

Not fair. Science has its place also in life. There is work to be done other than fighting. In fact, the Soviet Union spun into economic and cultural collapse because they forgot that fact. Before them, also, Sparta.

Nothing wrong with expecting our best and brightest to step up and do a tour before entering the career that gives them the rewards they can earn. A military with a broad citizen base that uses our finest minds is what we need in these times. We are in a war. Do not want a narrow Spartiate military cast. The 5% who choose that career will be honored for it. More need to do 3-5 years.

US: 30 Taliban died of heartbreak over naming of Gwen and Gavin's new baby or superior US firepower, but mostly superior US firepower.

re: #235 Outrider

Quakers are Democrats?

Wasn't Nixon a Quaker?

YEEEESSSSSS!
*fist pump*

Jury rules Duncan eligible for death penalty

BOISE - After deliberating for about two hours, jurors in Boise decided Friday that Joseph Edward Duncan III is eligible for the death penalty for the 2005 abduction, torture and murder of 9-year-old Dylan Groene.

Just so you know this human excrement (and that's insulting to excrement) has plead guilty. He raped and gutted Dylan, let him suffer then bashed his head apart. Too bad drawing and quartering are cruel and unusual punishment.

re: #239 lawhawk

For comparison, the Mississippi discharges at an annual average rate of between 200,000 and 700,000 cu ft/s (7,000 to 20,000 m³/s).

I watch Meerkat Manor on Animal planet every Friday. Pretty nondescript commercials most of the time. However tonight the Obama/Ayers ad showed up. Interesting choice of program. Or maybe not. I wonder what the demographic is for that show?

re: #234 Sharmuta

Of course- a Ms. Wizard would be great too.

I'm sorry, my female whiz-kid is on her way to being an author of fiction, or perhaps a philosopher.

re: #224 bellamags

I see them that say "I think, therefore I vote DEMOCRAT" that one always makes me laugh.

When I see those, I write in the grime, NO, you only imagined you were thinking, THAT is why you voted democrat.

re: #247 lawhawk

Oh no dead terrorists! Watch them breed more...

Sasha Trudeau says they'll teach us something with guns.

re: #245 Shay4l

I believe it was either Mars or supercollider.

/Obama is eyeing all that funding for mandatory socialist prekindergarten indoctrination, it's for the children

re: #249 jcm

JCM - You and I seem to agree a lot on things. I especially like your choice of execution for that evil human. How about frying him in boiling oil or throwing him into a den of water moccasins?

re: #247 lawhawk

US: 30 Taliban died of heartbreak over naming of Gwen and Gavin's new baby or superior US firepower, but mostly superior US firepower.

Why do those Hollywood types saddle their kids with such stupid names?

re: #251 Bobblehead

I wonder what the demographic is for that show?

Ferret and hamster owners. McCain is conceding California where ferrets are illegal.

re: #249 jcm

YEEEESSSSSS!
*fist pump*

Jury rules Duncan eligible for death penalty

Just so you know this human excrement (and that's insulting to excrement) has plead guilty. He raped and gutted Dylan, let him suffer then bashed his head apart. Too bad drawing and quartering are cruel and unusual punishment.

Any one with a steel stomach go read his closing arguments. The Whale Dung represented himself.

re: #256 bellamags

JCM - You and I seem to agree a lot on things. I especially like your choice of execution for that evil human. How about frying him in boiling oil or throwing him into a den of water moccasins?

You guys are extravagant.

Based on what he did, pick ANY state pen, announce his crime, and toss him in.

I give him until lights out.

re: #249 jcm

YEEEESSSSSS!
*fist pump*

Jury rules Duncan eligible for death penalty

Just so you know this human excrement (and that's insulting to excrement) has plead guilty. He raped and gutted Dylan, let him suffer then bashed his head apart. Too bad drawing and quartering are cruel and unusual punishment.

Too bad Israel didn't give Samir Kuntar the death penalty.

re: #257 Bobblehead

Why do those Hollywood types saddle their kids with such stupid names?

Narcissism. It's an occupational hazard in Hollywood.

re: #74 Cognito

I hate to take the unenviable -- if not impossible -- position of defending rap, but I feel compelled to say that while CERN's scientist are brilliant, they are perhaps not musical mad geniuses, like these guys.

Late reply, but I just ain't never seen nuthin' like this...
When I'm Gone

I wanted to address the point brought up in this link here.

As I replied, the thing people forget when talking about American technological infrastructure is how low our nation's population density is. Look at this map, and think of the nations our infrastructure keeps being compared to. And remember that in nations like Canada and Australia, the population is mostly concentrated in a small part of the actual land mass of the country. Think also of American cities in comparison with other major cities around the world when it comes to the relationship of population and square mileage.

Adequate bandwidth for a thing, be it broadband internet service, cellular service, Blackberry, or what-have-you comes from having adequate hardware to provide that bandwidth. In order to provide adequate bandwidth for a metropolitan area in the US, it can be a whole lot more expensive, as you will need to cover a wider area, and with fewer customers per box to offset your costs. Tech companies tend to wait until the customer-per-invested-infrastructure ratio gets better to expand beyond the largest cities, and Americans who don't live in the larger cities are used to muddling by with earlier technology.

/rant off

Duncan, ugh.

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