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Biden Bloviates

Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 12:20:55 pm PDT

Barack Obama just announced Joe Biden, and he’s taking the stage in Springfield for his first speech as veep, to the strains of Bruce Springsteen. Talk amongst yourselves.

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1 Charles  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:22:03pm

Here we go with the American Story.

2 LionFromZion  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:22:09pm

They look so ridiculous up there together!

3 J.D.  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:22:29pm

Obama only picked Biden to help him look less arrogant himself.

4 Americain  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:22:45pm

Sit back and enjoy, this ride's going to be good.

5 JohnnyReb  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:23:20pm

No shots of the crowd. Oh and the Lincoln reference.

6 ThnkngOutLoud  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:23:23pm

I think they are hyperventilating. Get them both a brown paper bag, or a 'green' cloth bag.

7 Charles  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:23:26pm

Obama's sitting behind him on the wall, drinking bottled water.

8 Opinionated  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:23:47pm

"Obama's mother believed in America"....which is why she moved to Indonesia.

Hell she didn't even seem to believe in American men.

9 really grumpy big dog johnson  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:23:57pm

Using a tune from the Boss to segue into the Biden speech is so inspiring! Change that we can believe in!

/

10 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:24:27pm

"The future keeps receding"? Bush is altering the flow of time?

11 BignJames  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:24:33pm

Ebony and Ivory.

12 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:24:34pm

Eight years of Bush and McCain?

Huh?

13 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:24:40pm

re: #7 Charles

Obama's sitting behind him on the wall, drinking bottled water.

* * *
You'd think a community organizer could get the local water in Illinois chlorinated!

Enough with the Perrier metrosexual stuff.

14 JohnnyReb  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:25:04pm

OMG, he can't even speak with notes. What a loser. Uh clue bat; It's 8 years of President Bush, not 4.

15 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:25:13pm

Sounds like the Blues Bar B Q all day even is taking a break while the insanity gets national coverage.
PLuck them two arseholes.

16 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:25:17pm

Maybe someone could have gotten Greasy Joe a haircut before his big day.

17 really grumpy big dog johnson  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:25:32pm

The party of the tired cliche strikes again...

18 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:25:42pm

re: #10 Neo Con since 9-11

"The future keeps receding"? Bush is altering the flow of time?

* * *
He means his hairline is receding.
Man hasn't heard of rogaine? Aren't his hair plugs stemming the tide?

19 LionFromZion  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:25:51pm

He keeps looking down. He's so...um....er.....inspiring...yeah....inspiring!

20 HPG337  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:26:01pm

When Obama was introducing Biden I thought I heard him say "...the next President of the United States..." "...the next VICE president of the United States..." Did anybody else hear a rather large [Freudian?] goof or did I hear it wrong?

21 Beach Lover  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:26:14pm

Biden better watch the house talk after we watched them showing his "compound" all morning!

22 J.D.  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:26:20pm

Ooooo, I saw Biden earlier slobbering all over what I guess was his entire family.

I feel so lucky today!

23 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:26:35pm

re: #12 JammieWearingFool

Eight years of Bush and McCain?

Huh?

Did they just say that? (I have the TV off)

24 ThnkngOutLoud  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:26:47pm

re: #13 alegrias

Maybe the O-man has a recyclable bottle in his car? He can duck out, check his tire pressure, and return before Bruce can sing 'Born in the USA'.

25 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:26:53pm

re: #20 HPG337

When Obama was introducing Biden I thought I heard him say "...the next President of the United States..." "...the next VICE president of the United States..." Did anybody else hear a rather large [Freudian?] goof or did I hear it wrong?

* * *
You heard correctly. Looking for daddy in all the wrong places.

26 Opinionated  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:26:56pm

Every time Democrats speak, I am reminded why I am a Republican.

27 Beach Lover  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:27:09pm

re: #20 HPG337
I did! He didn't quite say it...but he almost did!
heh
ever, ever, ever!

28 pegcity  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:27:18pm

re: #10 Neo Con since 9-11

"The future keeps receding"? Bush is altering the flow of time?

he has the flux capacitor

29 eaglewingz08  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:27:19pm

Heard the same misspeak. Then Biden said we've just had eight years of Bush McCain.

30 J.D.  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:27:19pm

re: #23 galloping granny

Did they just say that? (I have the TV off)

Accuracy is greatly overrated.

Right?

31 Catttt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:27:26pm

I turned on the TV for "ever ever ever ever" and "we believe we believe" ? ? ?

32 JohnnyReb  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:27:34pm

Apparently, they think they are running against President Bush. This is gonna backfire big time.

33 Rev. Churchmouse  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:27:40pm

Did anybody else hear a rather large [Freudian?] goof or did I hear it wrong?

You heard it right. He said next President and Vice-President....

34 McJenny50  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:27:45pm

re: #20 HPG337

When Obama was introducing Biden I thought I heard him say "...the next President of the United States..." "...the next VICE president of the United States..." Did anybody else hear a rather large [Freudian?] goof or did I hear it wrong?

I heard it - Freudian maybe

35 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:27:53pm

Haw many times can you say "ever"?

36 BingoBunny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:28:06pm

babble babble.. bab..ble messiah.. promised land.. babble babble.. change..bab..ble.. hope.. ble bab..

/the over the hill the clouds parted and out shown a light.. from the queen Hillary face.. her laser eyes melted the platform where the Messiah and his devilish Bidden imp were standing.. and that isn't no fairy tale.. bro thats the convention in Denver.

37 MikeyHunt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:28:27pm

ahem... riddle me this..


O_AMA / BI_ _ _DEN

yup..fortune doth smile upon us (smiles)

38 lori lane  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:28:31pm

"ever ever ever ever ..." He just stuttered!

39 gunslingah  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:28:45pm

What are the chances Neil Kinnock wrote his acceptance speech?

40 cblesz  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:28:54pm

How about this idea for a McCain ad:

Since Obama is hung up on McCain's wife's wealth...

An ad stating that the McCain family gave $$ to charity. Much more than Obama who gave $. AND, he gave most of it to....

JEREMIAH WRIGHT...and show clips of that jackass...bting him back into the spotlight.

41 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:28:59pm

Um- he does realize the Capital in in control of his party, right?

42 freedomplow  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:29:04pm

Iraqis don't like him.

VP choice Biden unpopular in Iraq for autonomy plan

43 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:29:16pm

Oh my goodness, all he is saying is change - we need a wise leader! Obama is so far from wise it isn't funny.

44 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:29:29pm
When have American's ever let their country down when they had a leader to lead them


Yes comrade Biden, hail our glorious leader. But privately I'd rather not be led just get the government out of the way.

45 Osama Bin Asshat  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:29:30pm

...but he would love to work with McCain...?

46 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:29:34pm

re: #23 galloping granny

Did they just say that? (I have the TV off)

Biden said it.

47 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:29:40pm

Hatchetman Biden, who obama says singlehandedly tamed Milosevitch, Putin, and "Led" President Bush on weapons of mass destruction disarmament, etc., can take down McCain...in your dreams punk.

48 JohnnyReb  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:29:41pm

Uh a total change in Washington? Uh Biden has been there 35+ years. Thats a change?

49 eaglewingz08  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:29:46pm

Wise leader who could deliver change? Obama?

50 rakkasan  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:29:48pm

Politically, this was the "safe" choice. Unfortunately for Obama, the safe choice goes against the whole narrative of his campaign up to this point. The always-dicey "youth vote" just got halved, the excitement factor has probably evaporated, and the idea that Obama wasn't just another political hack just got torpedoed. Good luck with that.

Not that McCain still isn't capable of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, mind you.

51 Miss Trixie  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:29:48pm

Oh brotherrrrrrrrrrrr.

*rolls eyes*

I had to turn the tube off - I just can't stand it.

52 Catttt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:29:52pm

ever ever ever ever!

Yay!

We believe!

Yay!

We can!

Yay!

53 Talldude682  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:29:54pm

I'd watch it, but I just ate.....not expecting anything new....

54 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:29:58pm

re: #41 Sharmuta

Er- Capitol.

55 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:29:58pm

Lots of boos but it doesn't sound like much of a crowd.

56 Osama Bin Asshat  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:30:10pm

...change to the exponent 12

57 Catttt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:30:13pm

re: #51 Miss Trixie

Oh brotherrrrrrrrrrrr.

*rolls eyes*

I had to turn the tube off - I just can't stand it.

Me too.

58 Beach Lover  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:30:17pm

OK, Joe, what have you done for the last 30 years in the Senate?
what change?

59 Charles  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:30:21pm

Blah, blah, boilerplate.

60 The Other Les  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:30:23pm

re: #10 Neo Con since 9-11

"The future keeps receding"? Bush is altering the flow of time?

By the future they mean the New Socialist Order.

61 pegcity  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:30:32pm

The Village Inn

62 Opinionated  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:30:34pm

America doesn't need change.

Just a little sprucing up.

63 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:30:55pm

re: #61 pegcity

The Village Inn Idiots


fixed

64 Orbit Rain  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:31:01pm

liars lie

65 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:31:05pm

re: #51 Miss Trixie

Oh brotherrrrrrrrrrrr.

*rolls eyes*

I had to turn the tube off - I just can't stand it.

I agree. The crowd sounds - ominous.

66 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:31:07pm

re: #48 JohnnyReb

Uh a total change in Washington? Uh Biden has been there 35+ years. Thats a change?


* * *
But Obama said washington didn't CHANGE Biden.

Biden changed Washington you see.

67 J.D.  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:31:09pm

Joe Biden? I feel the same way I did at the end of the last episode of "The Sopranos." Sure, some people considered the go-to-black ending nuanced, but as far as I was concerned, the producers punted. They chose a non-ending because they couldn't decide on a strong ending.

I confess. I thought Barack Obama would pick Hillary Rodham Clinton as his vice presidential running mate, not because he likes her - word is, he doesn't - but because he needs the backing of the 18 million or so voters who supported her. It would have been the smart move for victory in November. My second wrong guess was Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine - a gutsy pick that would have gone against the punditry argument that Obama had to pick a candidate weighted with experience and may have put Virginia in play. Such a pick would have reinforced Obama's message of change.

Instead, Obama chose a man who, months ago, was shooting for a third- or fourth-place finish in Iowa - but came in fifth, and dropped out after he failed to garner 1 percent of the vote. . .
Obama May Have Played It Too Safe
This has the potential to become very very ugly.

68 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:31:16pm

Uh- Senator Biden- you voted to go to Iraq.

69 Catttt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:31:22pm

To quote Mickey Kaus on Slate: Biden. Oy!

70 Opinionated  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:31:23pm

Did he say Barak America?

71 Beach Lover  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:31:28pm

did he just say Barack America?

72 lori lane  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:31:33pm

Can we say stupid crowd?

73 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:31:41pm

Such inspiration. Looks like he's going to keel over from too much sun.

74 Osama Bin Asshat  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:31:45pm

...embarrassing crowd actually

75 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:31:53pm

re: #71 Beach Lover

did he just say Barack America?

Yes.

76 JohnnyReb  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:32:18pm

OK it's off. Biden lost the crowd really quick. The only reaction he got was the "no more Bush thingy".

Two empty suits running. This is gonna get good on Monday. Hillary is standing by.

77 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:32:32pm

re: #70 Opinionated

Yes he did, the gaffe machine is already fired up.

78 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:32:42pm

re: #62 Opinionated

America doesn't need change.

Just a little sprucing up.

* * *
America needs OIL!

Presto pronto faster please. (Greenies & techies, keep up the good work in the meantime)

79 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:32:46pm

Oooh, he's disappointed in John McCain.

Boooo!

80 The Other Les  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:32:57pm

re: #72 lori lane

Can we say stupid crowd?

Functionally Dumb.

81 Catttt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:32:59pm

Anyone actually showing the crowd? It sounds like about five people.

82 Sol Roth  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:33:00pm

re: #20 HPG337

When Obama was introducing Biden I thought I heard him say "...the next President of the United States..." "...the next VICE president of the United States..." Did anybody else hear a rather large [Freudian?] goof or did I hear it wrong?

He did. That was very telling.

83 BigPapa  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:33:07pm

OHG, this is so funny. I was worried BHO was going to pick Hillary.

84 valkyrie  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:33:19pm

Even Obama looks bored with Biden during this speech.

85 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:33:27pm

Wow this speach was only covered by one station here in southern Ohio. What a crappy VP roll out

86 iceman1960  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:33:38pm

Thanking God I'm 40 miles away from the B.S.

87 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:33:50pm

re: #84 valkyrie

Even Obama looks bored with Biden during this speech.

Indeed.

88 Osama Bin Asshat  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:33:52pm

Biden is now fellating Obama

89 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:33:53pm

re: #81 Catttt

ABC is showing the crowd.

90 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:34:04pm

"Reaching across the aisle"?! The guy with the most partisan voting record in the Senate (thin as that record may be)?!

91 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:34:09pm

Drink.

92 Miss Trixie  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:34:21pm

re: #57 Catttt

Me too.

What really chaps my hide is that these boneheads really think that American voters are schtoopid.

Their disconnect from reality is breathtaking..

93 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:34:23pm

obama's a pragmatist? LMAO!

94 cliffster  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:34:24pm

They shouldn't use that logo on the podium. At a glance it looks way too much like Osama bin Laden.

95 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:34:28pm

"get the job done".........now thats original

96 ModerateWolverine  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:34:31pm

Literally

97 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:34:34pm

Wait until they start the torchlight rallies with crowd chants.

98 cblesz  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:34:43pm

Reach across the aisle? Is he freaking retarded?

99 iceman1960  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:34:44pm

Hope they're wearing waders.

100 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:34:46pm

"There's something about Barack Obama"

Joe, is that hair gel? Can I have some?

101 Colonel Panik  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:34:49pm

What some lizard on the last Biden thread said: SMUGS AND PLUGZ '08! LOL.

Biden is such a f***ing joke.


I expect machinations from the Hildebeast in Denver.

102 Beach Lover  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:34:49pm

re: #89 Pvt Bin Jammin

and how big is it?

103 The Other Les  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:34:55pm

re: #88 Osama Bin Asshat

Biden is now fellating Obama

Ick! Mental image! Icccccck!

104 BigPapa  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:35:05pm

re: #91 MandyManners

Wow. What he hell?

105 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:35:05pm

Joe- you mean the vets he can't even visit?

106 greenmiler  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:35:10pm

So full of shit...so Gore-ish

107 lori lane  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:35:11pm

Ha. ABC isn't even covering the speech now!

108 Charles  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:35:13pm

Sounds like he's determined to list the entire litany of left wing talking points, with minor detours for hagiography.

109 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:35:19pm

re: #94 cliffster

They shouldn't use that logo on the podium. At a glance it looks way too much like Osama bin Laden.

It really is quite remarkable.

110 Opinionated  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:35:24pm

There is something about this guy

He "is bright and clean"

111 Catttt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:35:24pm

I think Barry is asleep. No - he moved his hand.

112 witness  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:35:42pm

BHO needs a blood transfusion. These two are running on empty.

113 BigPapa  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:35:55pm

This is turning out to be wonderful Saturday morning.

114 LionFromZion  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:35:58pm

re: #70 Opinionated

Did he say Barak America?

He did say Barak America. I heard it. This is all very uncomfortable. This looks so hurried.

115 iceman1960  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:36:02pm

Biden is going to be alot of fun! Who came up with this pick SNL?

116 E.T.  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:36:07pm

re: #11 BignJames

LOL ... que up the music

117 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:36:08pm

Did the text message get sent out yet?

/f-ing morons...

118 Catttt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:36:10pm

Barry dissed capitalism to help the commies steal government money in Chicago. Great talking point.

119 eaglewingz08  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:36:16pm

His mark from day one? Sweeping ethics reform? He backstabbed McCain. Amazing. He threw Obama's grandmother under the bus.

120 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:36:16pm

re: #104 BigPapa

Wow. What he hell?

I found it here.

121 really grumpy big dog johnson  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:36:16pm

Who gets Biden's senate seat now?

122 cliffster  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:36:20pm

re: #110 Opinionated

There is something about this guy

He "is bright and clean"

He is articulate.

He can talk in complete sentences.

123 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:36:21pm

I just saw that Jimmy Carter is opening the convention. How appropriate.

124 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:36:36pm

re: #91 MandyManners

Drink.

He's clapping on the 1 and the 3.

125 Opinionated  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:36:39pm

re: #114 LionFromZion

He did say Barak America. I heard it. This is all very uncomfortable. This looks so hurried.

Dare I say, God Damn Barak America.

126 thatnaggycon  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:36:40pm

Good afternoon everyone...for just a few minutes.

They sure say a lot of words.

It seems that it's all about Bush.

127 lori lane  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:36:43pm

I was changing channels. Who did he say was drop dead gorgeous? His wife or Michelle?

128 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:36:51pm

re: #75 Sharmuta

Yes.

In what context? (I'm with the crowd who turned it off.)

129 The Other Les  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:36:54pm

re: #108 Charles

Sounds like he's determined to list the entire litany of left wing talking points, with minor detours for hagiography.

Maybe they'll bring back Eugenics!

(Big Left-Wing thing until 1945)

130 Catttt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:37:04pm

When did Biden start stuttering?

131 iceman1960  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:37:09pm

We don't have 7-11's in Springfield. He seems so out of place.

132 ModerateWolverine  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:37:10pm

re: #127 lori lane

Biden's wife.

133 Miss Trixie  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:37:27pm

re: #65 galloping granny

I agree. The crowd sounds - ominous.

I had the exact same thought and it troubled me enough that I didn't want to see anymore.

*shudder*

Can't WAIT to hear Mark Levin and Laura Ingraham on Monday! :D

134 Catttt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:37:28pm

re: #127 lori lane

I was changing channels. Who did he say was drop dead gorgeous? His wife or Michelle?

I thought he was talking about Barry. :D

135 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:37:31pm

re: #130 Catttt

When did Biden start stuttering?

Long about his third one.

Youtube Video

136 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:37:34pm

re: #102 Beach Lover


Couln't really tell but at least 200 I'd say. They're not showing it any more.

137 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:37:45pm

Putin would eat these two alive.
I'm going back to the Russia "Retreats" thread.

You all watch the fort and the TwoTrotskyites 08!

138 pestolover  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:37:48pm

Will the headlines now read: "Obama lauds Biden!" ? Sorry, couldn't resist.

139 Pianobuff  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:37:49pm

re: #101 Colonel Panik

What some lizard on the last Biden thread said: SMUGS AND PLUGZ '08! LOL.

Biden is such a f***ing joke.


I expect machinations from the Hildebeast in Denver.

In our house they are known as Barry and Hairy.

140 lori lane  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:38:01pm

re: #132 ModerateWolverine

Well, that was nice. I like that. :)

141 Iron Fist  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:38:01pm

Joe Biden's 65. What happened to the "McCain's too old" meme? 7 years is an eternity? I guess it is to 7 year olds, but it isn't that long to people who live with a 30 year mortgage. Obama has soooo shot himself in the foot picking this old gasbag. A Washington insider who hasn't had a real job since McCain was in a prison camp.

Woot!

142 Catttt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:38:03pm

Thank God THAT's over.

143 Osama Bin Asshat  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:38:05pm

troops?

144 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:38:07pm

Joe Biden has an odd looking hairline because it hides a scar from brain surgery some years back.

his health is an issue. more of an issue than mccain's

145 iceman1960  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:38:08pm

God bless America and get me a slurpee

146 witness  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:38:22pm

Lets see Biden try to dunk

147 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:38:27pm

"Restore America's soul" ? Excuse me, Americas souls is just fine .

148 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:38:30pm

Michelle appears to be wearing some sort of failed camouflage.

/yes, meeeoww, I know

149 LEGION  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:38:35pm

Biden and Schumer- biggest mouths and camera hogs in the Senate. What a joke picking him! I like the '88 ad he ran when running for POTUS- Biden said the White House isn't a training ground- so now his boss is his trainee-this is a superb joke. The demonrats are supreme jokes!

150 ModerateWolverine  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:38:40pm

re: #145 iceman1960

Yes, but said in an Indian accent, of course.

151 iceman1960  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:38:52pm

Biden the tutor

152 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:38:55pm

re: #142 Catttt

Thank God THAT's over.

I'm surprised it's over.

153 RightOnTheLeftCoast  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:39:05pm

re: #88 Osama Bin Asshat

Biden is now fellating Obama

How many network anchors did he have to push out of the way?

154 ModerateWolverine  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:39:07pm

Biden's wife is ok...I wouldn't say drop dead gorgeous.

155 eaglewingz08  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:39:15pm

I also noticed that when Obama spoke about Biden's son going to serve in Iraq NO ONE applauded.

156 str8outtamonongahela  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:39:17pm

jesus, i gave it a 48 hour gaffe time....the crap has already started.

157 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:39:28pm

re: #147 MrPaulRevere

"Restore America's soul" ? Excuse me, Americas souls is just fine .

And it's our LAST CHANCE to save America. If we don't elect Obama bin Biden, America is doomed.

158 lori lane  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:39:30pm

It's so funny how Michelle is holding Mrs. B's hand. Very awkward each time.

159 Osama Bin Asshat  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:39:38pm

Michelle....first lady.....can you say muppet show?

160 witness  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:39:39pm

re: #152 Sharmuta

They're tired of their own rhetoric

161 Catttt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:39:49pm

re: #148 Occasional Reader

Michelle appears to be wearing some sort of failed camouflage.

/yes, meeeoww, I know

I usually like her clothes, but that dress drapes wrong, and I don't like the belt.

162 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:39:57pm

re: #156 str8outtamonongahela

jesus, i gave it a 48 hour gaffe time....the crap has already started.

Couldn't figure out how to get off the freakin' stage!

163 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:40:06pm

re: #135 MandyManners

Long about his third one.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

I would love to know when that video was made. It only got posted about 12 hours ago.

164 iceman1960  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:40:12pm

Buddy of mine is one of the camera men for the local station... he was dreading going to the lovefest

165 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:40:14pm

Well, how bad was it? Been outside catching up on yard work so I missed all the crapola.

166 lori lane  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:40:19pm

re: #154 ModerateWolverine

Yeah, maybe not, but I think it's nice for him to say that he thinks she is.

167 mijacat  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:40:26pm

Biden. It's going to be a long, long election, listening to that windbag.

And yes, Obama/Biden are going to run against Bush/Cheney rather than McCain/Palin (I hope...) because they cannot afford to alienate the BDS sufferers any more than they already have.

That's Obamas' people, man. They *love* him!

Mew

(who is disgusted ... but not disgusted enough to not enjoy the popcorn and theatre...)

168 USA  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:40:26pm

Obama bin Biden

Too Funny!

169 Catttt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:40:31pm

My goodness, the looks on the faces of the Fox guys. Priceless.

170 lori lane  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:40:46pm

re: #161 Catttt

I usually like her clothes, but that dress drapes wrong, and I don't like the belt.

Makes her look f.a.t.

171 pat  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:41:00pm

If Chuck Schumer was there they could have filibustered themselves.

172 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:41:02pm

re: #160 witness

They're tired of their own rhetoric

I thought biden would need the hook.

173 ModerateWolverine  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:41:03pm

re: #165 pingjockey

Well, how bad was it? Been outside catching up on yard work so I missed all the crapola.

Bad. It was a live version of the commercials we've been seeing (paraphrasing Karl Rove)

174 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:41:08pm

re: #163 galloping granny

I would love to know when that video was made. It only got posted about 12 hours ago.

And the announcement was about 12 hours ago.

175 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:41:39pm

The Magnificent Bastard's on FNC!

176 iceman1960  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:41:44pm

I can't wait to vote against those 2 idiots

177 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:41:58pm

re: #161 Catttt

I usually like her clothes, but that dress drapes wrong, and I don't like the belt.

Do you? She always seems to me to be either trying way too hard to channel Jackie Kennedy or so dramatically under and inappropriately dressed it is downright sad.

178 mijacat  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:42:10pm

re: #121 really grumpy big dog johnson

Who gets Biden's senate seat now?

Regrettably, Biden may get to keep it.

If he's up for re-election in hell (erm, whatever poor bastards are stuck with him...delaware?) then he has to run two campaigns.

As Joe Lieberman proved, it can be done. (grin)

Mew

179 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:42:16pm

Just turned on FNC. The Dark Lord Rove is on. That man could have a lot of fun with the Obama Bin Biden ticket.

180 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:42:22pm

"He does have a tendency to stick his foot in his mouth."

Way to go, Rove!

181 iceman1960  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:42:25pm

Tendency to stick his foot in his mouth? you think?

182 Erik The Red  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:42:32pm

Thank goodness that shit is done. I am so pissed right now I want want to puked

183 J.D.  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:42:36pm

Joseph Biden's Plagiarism; Michael Dukakis's 'Attack Video' – 1988

I remember almost nothing about this.
Anyone?

184 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:42:49pm

It doesn't get any better than this:

Monday, August 25
The theme for the day is "One Nation" and Michelle Obama will be the "headline prime-time speaker."

185 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:43:25pm

re: #173 ModerateWolverine
Okay. Been in Spokane all week for fire system training, so the yard was running amok!

186 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:43:50pm

re: #180 MandyManners

"He does have a tendency to stick his foot in his mouth."

Way to go, Rove!

Did you catch how the host noted that the two other guests "have bona fides on picking VPs", sine Kristol helped pick Quayle, and the other guy picked Ferrraro? Kristol, to his credit, at least laughed. But the message was clear; BAD CHOICE!

187 pat  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:43:54pm

Why does basketball count as one medal and ping pong as 93?

188 iceman1960  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:43:54pm

Obama camp had to trade in the lighted applause sign for a shut-up sign.

189 ModerateWolverine  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:44:05pm

New GOP website Obama/Biden

190 ted  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:44:20pm

This was either a anti-climax or premature ejaculation.

191 Son of the Black Dog  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:44:27pm

What a ticket! Empty suit and empty head.

192 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:44:28pm

re: #183 J.D.

Joseph Biden's Plagiarism; Michael Dukakis's 'Attack Video' – 1988

I remember almost nothing about this.
Anyone?

I was smoking a lot of good dope back then.

193 ModerateWolverine  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:44:39pm

re: #190 ted

hahahahahahaha...i'd go with anti-climax.

194 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:44:53pm

re: #183 J.D.
Biden ripped off a Brit socialists speach almost word for word with no attribution. Gaaah no its that fathead Heckel Beckel.

195 Fat Jolly Penguin  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:44:59pm

Well, I'm sure we'll be hearing insinuations of senility from the MSM due to Biden's advanced age now. Right? ...Right?

/they'll call it experience, whereas McCain's just a doddering old fool

196 offendi  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:45:02pm

Obama has just shot his message of " Change" in the foot, by selecting that old pol Biden.

He would have been better served taking one of the newbie governors or even Hillary as a sop to her "cougars".

McCain is lucky as hell.

197 ModerateWolverine  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:45:15pm

re: #194 pingjockey

Biden ripped off a Brit socialists speach almost word for word with no attribution. Gaaah no its that fathead Heckel Beckel.

Yes, and then I believe he said you don't really have to give credit in politics.

198 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:45:15pm

re: #186 Occasional Reader

Did you catch how the host noted that the two other guests "have bona fides on picking VPs", sine Kristol helped pick Quayle, and the other guy picked Ferrraro? Kristol, to his credit, at least laughed. But the message was clear; BAD CHOICE!

I'm channel-surfing.

199 Erik The Red  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:45:26pm

Biden coundn't make make number one in 1998 now he is going for number 2 in 2008. Loser

200 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:45:28pm

Those are some grim-looking USSS agents.

201 J.D.  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:45:36pm

re: #192 MandyManners

So that's a no?

lol

202 rakkasan  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:45:46pm

You think Obama is experiencing a strong, almost nauseating sense of Buyers Remorse? I do. About five minutes into Biden's speech, Obama had probably already thought about the people who suggested this pick, as well as the gruesome deaths he would plan for them. But, so sorry Barack; life ain't a revenge movie.

One great thing about Biden though; you can Tivo his speeches and save money on Ambien. So there's that.

203 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:45:48pm

re: #189 ModerateWolverine

New GOP website Obama/Biden

Someone send them this.

Youtube Video

204 pat  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:45:58pm

Bob " We Got The Goods On Michelle" Beckel. Mr Credibility.

205 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:46:08pm

re: #189 ModerateWolverine

LOL @ Obama's off-message man.

206 J.D.  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:46:25pm

Joe Biden
Well someone has updated wikipedia's entry about J.B. today...

207 ted  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:46:43pm

re: #193 ModerateWolverine

hahahahahahaha...i'd go with anti-climax.

yea...tough call though....

208 tradewind  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:46:43pm

My second fave comment on a moonbat blog, from Wonkette:

If he wants a loudmouthed kinda-racist gaffe machine with Pennsylvanian roots why doesn’t he just pick Chris Matthews, huh?

209 cyclown  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:46:48pm

When can we expect Chris Matthews to get that tingling sensation up his legs with the announcement of Biteone as veep? Maybe we will be blessed with Biteone saying, "I think I am much sexier than you" to Chrissy.
Karl Rove you magnificent bastard.

210 baxtrice  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:46:53pm

Okay late to thread, was in class, but I just want to say, I am so freaking tired of Bruce Springsteen. Doesn't he know the 80's are over?

/end rant

211 Dave the.....  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:46:54pm

Since McCain is pretty liberal (so hard to nail him on ideology), the Democrats have been saying that you shouldn't vote for him because J-Mac is too old. Yet BHO was 11 years old when Biden entered the Senate. So much for agism.

212 Osama Bin Asshat  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:46:56pm

fellatio festival from CNN

213 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:47:00pm

Olberdouche lamented the fact poor Biden was thrown out there without a TelePrompter.

Ha!

214 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:47:01pm

re: #202 rakkasan

You think Obama is experiencing a strong, almost nauseating sense of Buyers Remorse? I do. About five minutes into Biden's speech, Obama had probably already thought about the people who suggested this pick, as well as the gruesome deaths he would plan for them. But, so sorry Barack; life ain't a revenge movie.

One great thing about Biden though; you can Tivo his speeches and save money on Ambien. So there's that.

I don't think he is having buyer's remorse. I think this is what he had to settle for because all of the other options bailed on him.

215 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:47:01pm

re: #13 alegrias

* * *
You'd think a community organizer could get the local water in Illinois chlorinated!

Enough with the Perrier metrosexual stuff.

My son was enjoying a bottle of water the other day, then stopped to read the label. It was taken from the municipal water supply of Dallas Texas. He pitched it.
My brother OTOH has an RO machine and bottles his own. I also have an RO machine. I drink Pepsi.

216 pat  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:47:18pm

How many times do you have to run for President before some who is even more lame chooses you as VP, Senator Biden?

217 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:47:41pm

re: #208 tradewind

My second fave comment on a moonbat blog, from Wonkette:

Pennsylvania?

218 witness  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:47:54pm

re: #190 ted

BHO peaked.All down hill from here...

219 E.T.  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:47:56pm

Beckle knows nothing about Iraq...

220 J.D.  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:47:58pm

re: #216 pat

How many times do you have to run for President before some who is even more lame chooses you as VP, Senator Biden?

4? 5?

I can't remember...

221 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:48:22pm

Dem talking head on Fox just said "There is nobody better than Joe Biden to start class warfare."

222 Catttt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:48:35pm

re: #177 galloping granny

Do you? She always seems to me to be either trying way too hard to channel Jackie Kennedy or so dramatically under and inappropriately dressed it is downright sad.

No, I really do like her clothes, for the most part. I think if she sticks to her own personal taste, she will look cool. If the handlers make her wear ugly purple shirtwaist dresses, not so much.

223 tradewind  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:48:38pm

re: #217 MandyManners

Yeah, Biden claims PA as his 'real' home.... everyone is from Scranton, and they love him in PA.......

224 offendi  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:48:50pm

Obama just punted the 2008 race. 'Obambi" it is.

I assume Hillary's people are now calling the cash cows for 2012.

It will be interesting to see how quickly or not her current debt is covered.

225 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:48:52pm

Biden knows more about foreign policy than McCain? I think not. Beckel brought up class warfare crap. When was the last time any of these people hung out at the local Sareway to buy groceries? BS!

226 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:48:54pm

Michelle Obama looks like she really had a tough time with the two-a-days this training camp.

227 LEGION  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:48:59pm

re: #163 galloping granny

The Viiiiilllllaaaaggggeeeesssssssss Hic -VPOTUS democraticus

228 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:49:07pm

re: #221 galloping granny

Dem talking head on Fox just said "There is nobody better than Joe Biden to start class warfare."

I heard that. My jaw dropped.

229 Iron Fist  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:49:09pm

re: #189 ModerateWolverine

They need to take it to them. Obama has really messed up here, and they need to make sure he never recovers from it. It is good, using Biden's words against Obama. I bet Rush is working overtime to get Monday's show ready.

Crush your enemy, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!

230 Colonel Panik  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:49:16pm

I think the Obamessiah has just "jumped the shark".

231 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:49:38pm

re: #222 Catttt

No, I really do like her clothes, for the most part. I think if she sticks to her own personal taste, she will look cool. If the handlers make her wear ugly purple shirtwaist dresses, not so much.

Maria Pinto has some good stuff.

232 ModerateWolverine  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:49:51pm

re: #229 Iron Fist

They need to take it to them. Obama has really messed up here, and they need to make sure he never recovers from it. It is good, using Biden's words against Obama. I bet Rush is working overtime to get Monday's show ready.

Crush your enemy, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!

My brother (Neocon Nony) just said the same thing. I can't wait for Monday's show.

233 witness  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:49:51pm

re: #227 LEGION

It takes a Village (or a drunk politician with an open check book)

234 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:50:00pm

re: #223 tradewind

Yeah, Biden claims PA as his 'real' home.... everyone is from Scranton, and they love him in PA.......

And Delwarians still elect him?

235 Dave the.....  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:50:01pm

Biden is a native of Scranton. Kind of like Murtha and Johnstown.

236 Opinionated  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:50:07pm

An admission by Bob Beckel that this will be a class warfare campaign.

237 Quilly Mammoth  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:50:09pm

Is it possible that Obama is secretly a Rovian plant who _intends_ on losing? Nothing he is doing makes sense.

238 ted  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:50:10pm

re: #218 witness

BHO peaked.All down hill from here...

Obama shot his load !
Hahaha...

239 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:50:21pm

re: #221 galloping granny

Dem talking head on Fox just said "There is nobody better than Joe Biden to start class warfare."

Somebody was reading the Pacifica talking points?

240 tradewind  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:50:22pm

re: #222 Catttt

I loved that Maria Pinto purple sheath!
Thought the leggings and white pseudo-maternity top were a little much in Hawaii last week, though.

241 J.D.  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:50:35pm

Wikipedia says he's run twice, and it salso says this:

Then in September 1987, the campaign ran into serious trouble when he was accused of plagiarizing a speech by Neil Kinnock, then-leader of the British Labour Party.[26] Though Biden had correctly credited the original author in all speeches but one, the one where he failed to make mention of the originator was caught on video.[27]

Within days, it was also discovered that as a first-year law student at Syracuse Law School, Biden had plagiarized a law review article in a class paper he wrote. Though the dean of the law school in 1988 as well as Biden's former professor played down the incident of plagiarism, they did find that Biden drew "chunks of heavy legal prose directly from" the article in question. Biden said the act was inadvertent due to his not knowing the proper rules of citation, and Biden was permitted to retake the course after receiving a grade of F, which was subsequently dropped from his record.[28] Biden also released his undergraduate grades, which started off poorly and remained unexceptional.[28] Further, when questioned by a New Hampshire resident about his grades in law school Biden had claimed falsely to have graduated in the "top half" of his class, (when he actually graduated 76th in a class of 85) that he had attended on a full scholarship, and had received three degrees.[29] In fact he had received two majors, History and Political Science, and a single B.A., as well as a half scholarship based on financial need.[29]

242 HelloDare  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:50:48pm
Joseph Biden's Plagiarism; Michael Dukakis's 'Attack Video' – 1988

I remember almost nothing about this.
Anyone?

Biden talks so much he runs out of his own words and has to plagerize from others

243 ModerateWolverine  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:50:50pm

Ok ModerateWolverine out, my parents, fiancee and her parents are going out to dinner to start wedding plans!

244 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:50:53pm

re: #239 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Somebody was reading the Pacifica talking points?

It's interesting when they let their masks slip, isn't it?

245 TnTx13  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:50:54pm

Greetings, lizards! I finally dragged myself awake after all the overnight threads - thank goodness (or not, in this case, for DVRs....

246 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:50:54pm

re: #219 E.T.

Beckle knows nothing about Iraq...

fixed

247 J.D.  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:50:57pm

salso?

248 LEGION  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:50:58pm

re: #215 JeremyR

OTOH? RO MACHINE?

249 rw in san diego  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:51:08pm

Old adages are so often so true. The one that comes to mind...the more things change, the more they stay the same.

250 offendi  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:51:10pm

Have the Kos kiddies started the mourning process yet?

251 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:51:13pm

re: #228 Occasional Reader

I heard that. My jaw dropped.

Mine too. Class warfare - a Communist term as I recall. Never heard it associated with Democracy. They might just as well have admitted to an intent to foment a communist-style revolution in this country.

252 J.D.  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:51:36pm

I'm off!
Play nice.

253 TnTx13  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:51:41pm

Sounded like Biden wrote a whole new resume for Obama's Senate work...

254 tradewind  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:52:01pm

re: #234 MandyManners

Face it, it's a tiny postage stamp of a place. They have to import, occasionally.
It's a carpetbagger's dream. And the incorporation laws are sweet.

256 HelloDare  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:52:03pm

re: #209 cyclown

When can we expect Chris Matthews to get that tingling sensation up his legs with the announcement of Biteone as veep? Maybe we will be blessed with Biteone saying, "I think I am much sexier than you" to Chrissy.
Karl Rove you magnificent bastard.

Matthews will probably get a tingle up his middle leg.

257 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:52:07pm

re: #243 ModerateWolverine

Ok ModerateWolverine out, my parents, fiancee and her parents are going out to dinner to start wedding plans!

Just smile and ask where you're supposed to stand on the Big Day!

258 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:52:12pm

re: #241 J.D.

Wikipedia says he's run twice, and it salso says this:

Somebody edited Wiki in a hurry this morning.

259 baxtrice  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:52:15pm

re: #221 galloping granny

Dem talking head on Fox just said "There is nobody better than Joe Biden to start class warfare."

Effing socialists. This is how you open the door to communism.

260 pat  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:52:20pm

Beckel is still trying to abase himself to Obama after his disastrous Hillary campaign.

261 rw in san diego  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:52:41pm

re: #221 galloping granny

He won't need any coaching from Michelle.

262 ModerateWolverine  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:52:42pm

re: #257 MandyManners

Thanks for the tip Mandy! Her 'rents are excited to plan it, and I'm excited to let them.

263 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:52:56pm

re: #7 Charles

Charles -

I caught it on the "RAH-DI-OH" - If he was drinking anything other than Dasani or Aquafina - BWAHAHAHA!

-S-

264 Opinionated  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:53:03pm

re: #221 galloping granny

Dem talking head on Fox just said "There is nobody better than Joe Biden to start class warfare."

As I was predicting on the other thread.

265 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:53:16pm

Let's see Biden lives in a 'compund' ala the Kennedys' and Bushs'.
What in hell does he know about class warfare? The only class he hangs with is no class upper crust elitists. Who want to tell us how to live every facet of our lives. Obambi/Plugs socialism lite.

266 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:53:17pm

re: #215 JeremyR

My son was enjoying a bottle of water the other day, then stopped to read the label. It was taken from the municipal water supply of Dallas Texas. He pitched it.
My brother OTOH has an RO machine and bottles his own. I also have an RO machine. I drink Pepsi.

* * *
What's an RO machine?

I drink tap water exclusively--even in District of Columbia--I like fluoridation & chloridation!

267 baxtrice  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:53:24pm

re: #243 ModerateWolverine

Ok ModerateWolverine out, my parents, fiancee and her parents are going out to dinner to start wedding plans!

Congrats!

268 cliffster  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:53:25pm

re: #250 offendi

Have the Kos kiddies started the mourning process yet?

No they've started the creating-alternate-realities process.

269 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:53:29pm

re: #235 Dave the.....

Biden is a native of Scranton. Kind of like Murtha and Johnstown.

So maybe this move was in the hopes it would help him in PA- obama's numbers are slipping there.

270 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:53:37pm

re: #255 JammieWearingFool

Flashback: Biden to gun owner, “If that’s his baby, he needs help”

Classy.

That said, the guy in the video is not exactly who I'd pick as a 2nd Amendment spokesman.

271 nyc redneck  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:53:47pm

ok, oh boy,
now, i'm going to have to guard against feeling pity for these sad sacks.

272 Dave the.....  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:53:55pm

Hey Twin Cities lizards....I checked out downtown St Paul today. It looks quite nice for the convention. I have to work biggo hours next week, but may try to skip out early on Thursday to wonder around and see who is out and about.

Picked up a McCain T-shirt and button at the MOA the other night. Will look for more venders.

And the moonbats have their city sponsored stage, with a sound system, facing the Excel Center.

273 Catttt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:53:56pm

Bob Beckel looked REALLY depressed (on Fox). (I had the sound off.)

Maybe he just has a headache.

274 tradewind  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:54:03pm

re: #243 ModerateWolverine

Best for you to lay low. Just smile, nod, say ' whatever you think sweetie', and you'll have fun. Any other strategy will only bite you in the rear end.
/only slightly kidding.... congrats/

275 TnTx13  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:54:05pm

re: #265 pingjockey

Let's see Biden lives in a 'compund' ala the Kennedys' and Bushs'.
What in hell does he know about class warfare? The only class he hangs with is no class upper crust elitists. Who want to tell us how to live every facet of our lives. Obambi/Plugs socialism lite.

How did he afford that compound, by the way? He's been in the Senate for over half his life...

276 Iron Fist  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:54:08pm

re: #224 offendi

PU-MA!PU-MA!PU-MA!PU-MA!PU-MA!PU-MA!PU-MA!

To be honest, I've been kind of down about this election. Obama scares the hell out of me. If he just does what he says he'll do, he'll make Carter look competant. But this pick makes the race fun again. He's picked an old, white man to "help him govern". He might as well have just whipped it out and pissed in Hillary's face.

I love it!

277 pat  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:54:35pm

Wonder if they will get along as well as Kerry and Edwards, heh,heh.

278 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:54:40pm

re: #221 galloping granny

Dem talking head on Fox just said "There is nobody better than Joe Biden to start class warfare."

* * *
Well Class warfare is the only war the dems will fight.

They are WARMONGERS on the class warfare front.

Like Putin!

279 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:54:43pm

re: #255 JammieWearingFool

Flashback: Biden to gun owner, “If that’s his baby, he needs help”

Classy.

EVERY gun-owning Democrat (and, there are many in the South) needs to see that.

280 tradewind  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:54:44pm

re: #256 HelloDare

Bet that'd be a novelty.

281 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:54:49pm

re: #266 alegrias

* * *
What's an RO machine?

I drink tap water exclusively--even in District of Columbia--I like fluoridation & chloridation!

I do, too, but I do like the "Pur" on-tap filter. I haven't found one to fit the kitchen tap in our current abode, though.

282 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:55:38pm

re: #262 ModerateWolverine

Thanks for the tip Mandy! Her 'rents are excited to plan it, and I'm excited to let them.

Don't forge to help write the Thank You notes!

283 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:55:54pm

re: #224 offendi

Obama just punted the 2008 race. 'Obambi" it is.

I assume Hillary's people are now calling the cash cows for 2012.

It will be interesting to see how quickly or not her current debt is covered.

[Link: www.obamacrimes.com...]

One of her attack dogs is going after him to prevent the coronation of the Obamanation.

284 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:56:00pm

re: #215 JeremyR

My son was enjoying a bottle of water the other day, then stopped to read the label. It was taken from the municipal water supply of Dallas Texas. He pitched it.
My brother OTOH has an RO machine and bottles his own. I also have an RO machine. I drink Pepsi.

The town I live in has very good water. Aquafina comes from nearby town's water supply; I drive through that town regularly. I'll bottle our tap water, thank you.

285 Halman  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:56:16pm

NBC..Bryan Williams just interrupted Olympic competition for this..
I hope I did not miss any of the Popcorn Popping Competition.

286 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:56:16pm

re: #221 galloping granny

The three pillars of Obama's strategy are: 1) Run a class warfare based campaign. 2) Write off the south. 3) Depend heavily on the youth vote. They never learn do they?

287 tradewind  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:56:22pm

re: #269 Sharmuta

Yes. Word among the moonbats : ' This will help placate the bitters. '

288 RedSoxNation  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:56:46pm

Question: Does anyone think that Biden may become the target of late night hosts who do not want to criticize Obama with jokes? Given that Biden will make gaffes with his "foot in mouth" disease, I think he will be overly attacked by Leno and Letterman in their effort to avoid being too one-sided. If this happens, does it help or hurt Obama? Any thoughts?

289 Racer X  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:57:14pm

Obama Lin Biden '08

290 TnTx13  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:57:15pm

I swear I heard The One say, "Joe Biden is what so many others just pretend to be - a statesman!" OMG

291 Dave the.....  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:57:16pm

I actually feared he was going to pick Hillary. Enough Democrats and special interests would vote for either/or.

Wonder if this went through BHO's mind......"man, I could win then, but having Hillary and Bill looking over my shoulder and trying to upstage me for the next 4 years....."

292 really grumpy big dog johnson  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:57:22pm

re: #248 LEGION

reverse osmosis

293 offendi  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:57:51pm

Obama should have selected John Edwards.

At least he would have gotten the adulterers' vote.

294 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:58:07pm

re: #266 alegrias

* * *
What's an RO machine?

I drink tap water exclusively--even in District of Columbia--I like fluoridation & chloridation!

alegrias,

Me Too - Kills Germs.

-S-

295 TnTx13  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:58:41pm

I heart Karl Rove - says Obama is festering..... (OK, I know it's doubts that are festering, but this would be so much more interesting...)

296 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:58:51pm

re: #275 TnTx13
It is amazing ain't it. Go to the Senate with a net worth of 400k or so, just picked that number. 10 years later you're a multimillionaire. Hmmm no shenanigans there. I am painting with a very broad brush here, cause I'm to the point where I don't trust hardly any elected politician to do the right thing. Just make money for themselves and their cronies. Damn cynical I know. But, hey these folks go to DC and come back filthy rich. Bah.

297 tradewind  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:58:55pm

re: #286 MrPaulRevere

He's smart to write off the South (and I 'm one of them written-off folks). He thinks he can win with PA and OH, and add a Western state or two.

298 rakkasan  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:58:59pm

Obama probably experienced all five phases of the mourning process within the first five minutes of Biden's speech. Might be a record.

299 Dave the.....  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:59:45pm
Obama should have selected John Edwards.

At least he would have gotten the adulterers' vote.

Well, polls show that the majority of Americans are for drilling in California...what? Oh, they are talking about drilling for oil? Nevermind.

300 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 12:59:55pm

I

301 perdiem  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:00:05pm

This should eradicate any notion of a Hillery presidential nomination, which is as of now a clear victory for McCain. Now it's not in doubt. A bonaza. Pop corn all around.

302 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:00:16pm

I

303 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:00:23pm

Nevermind.

304 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:00:37pm

re: #296 pingjockey

It is amazing ain't it. Go to the Senate with a net worth of 400k or so, just picked that number. 10 years later you're a multimillionaire. Hmmm no shenanigans there. I am painting with a very broad brush here, cause I'm to the point where I don't trust hardly any elected politician to do the right thing. Just make money for themselves and their cronies. Damn cynical I know. But, hey these folks go to DC and come back filthy rich. Bah.

* * *
You make friends with veep vetter Jim Johnson at Fannie Mae, your friend Vito Mozzilla of Countryside Mortgages gives you a nice assist on your first multimillion dollar house, and VOILA! Soon you too can be a rich democrat buying & selling houses like Bud Beer Empress Cindy McCain!

305 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:00:45pm

re: #302 MandyManners
What are you doing MM?

306 offendi  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:00:49pm

re: #268 cliffster

No they've started the creating-alternate-realities process.


Kos/Huffington 2012?

307 TnTx13  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:01:05pm

re: #300 MandyManners

re: #302 MandyManners

re: #303 MandyManners

Joe Biden can help you with that.

308 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:01:36pm

re: #290 TnTx13

I swear I heard The One say, "Joe Biden is what so many others just pretend to be - a statesman!" OMG

"TT13" -

I always thought that the definition of "statesman" was Dead Politician.

-S-

309 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:01:58pm

re: #287 tradewind

Yes. Word among the moonbats : ' This will help placate the bitters. '

I said earlier and I'll say again- I hope obama has to spend tons of money retaining states that should have easily been his.

310 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:02:09pm

re: #297 tradewind

I understand the strategy, but it has no track record of success, to be charitable. Ask President Kerry.

311 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:02:12pm

"Today I've come back to Springfield to show you I've lost my mind."
Obambi.

312 offendi  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:02:21pm

re: #276 Iron Fist

PU-MA!PU-MA!PU-MA!PU-MA!PU-MA!PU-MA!PU-M A!

To be honest, I've been kind of down about this election. Obama scares the hell out of me. If he just does what he says he'll do, he'll make Carter look competant. But this pick makes the race fun again. He's picked an old, white man to "help him govern". He might as well have just whipped it out and pissed in Hillary's face.

I love it!


Never cross the Corleones or the Clintons?

313 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:02:25pm

Koskidz campaign to "cut down" journalist......
No excuses: Ron Fournier needs to be recused or fired

I don't think the enormity of Ron Fournier's hit piece on the Obama-Biden ticket can be fully appreciated. This story will be in every small-town paper, and quite a few big ones, by tomorrow. As newspapers reduce their staffs and rely more heavily on wire services, Fournier's reporting and his style as the Washington bureau chief will be more and more prominent. What's more the media swarm takes their cues from sources like the AP. Fournier is a Villager who needs to be cut down. Now.

They also publish his boss' name, phone an email.
Progressive!

314 daverx  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:02:26pm

Folks, the bus is going over the falls.

315 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:02:44pm

re: #266 alegrias

Reverse Osmosis. Pure water. tastes aweful if you grew up on good well water.

316 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:02:54pm

TnTx13 at No. 295 said "I heart Rove". I was trying to type

I < 3 Rove

317 TnTx13  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:03:11pm

re: #308 Dr. Shalit

So true... Meanwhile, the KosKids have the teleprompter version of the speech up, so they can memorize and worship every word.

318 LEGION  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:03:12pm

re: #273 Catttt

He ran out of checks to pay prostitutes with.

319 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:03:16pm

re: #308 Dr. Shalit

Reply to Self -

AND being a former Politician AND still being Alive - Guess I am NO Statesman.

-S-

320 baxtrice  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:03:38pm

re: #316 MandyManners

TnTx13 at No. 295 said "I heart Rove". I was trying to type

I < 3 Rove

Mandy, I am so with you there!

321 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:04:02pm

re: #283 JeremyR

[Link: www.obamacrimes.com...]

One of her attack dogs is going after him to prevent the coronation of the Obamanation.

I've been waiting to see this. He did a pretty good job with it.

322 TnTx13  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:04:22pm

re: #316 MandyManners

TnTx13 at No. 295 said "I heart Rove". I was trying to type

I < 3 Rove

Thanks, MM! Emoticons sometimes elude me :)

323 cliffster  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:04:36pm

re: #316 MandyManners

TnTx13 at No. 295 said "I heart Rove". I was trying to type

I < 3 Rove

Mandy:

"Thaaa Viiiiiillaaaaajuuuuzzz..."

;)

324 JSK1121  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:04:39pm

re: #11 BignJames

Ebony and Ivory.

Best combo since Joe Piscopo and Eddie Murphy....nope.

325 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:04:53pm

re: #313 Killgore Trout

Boy- those progressives sure know how to show tolerance!

326 Catttt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:05:14pm

Such a lovely day.

I feel like I'm watching a train wreak.

OK, that sounds mean-spirited, but you know what I mean.

327 offendi  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:05:39pm

re: #299 Dave the.....

Well, polls show that the majority of Americans are for drilling in California...what? Oh, they are talking about drilling for oil? Nevermind.


Do you think John Edwards goes around singing Michael Jackson's
" Billie Jean"?, adding Rielle?

328 Iron Fist  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:05:49pm

re: #265 pingjockey

He's been a Senator most of his adult life. The only class he knows it the ruling class. His Senate biography page has been removed, so I can't tell if he's ever held a real job out in the real world. He's certainly a Washington hothouse flower now, though.

329 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:06:07pm

re: #297 tradewind

He's smart to write off the South (and I 'm one of them written-off folks). He thinks he can win with PA and OH, and add a Western state or two.

I don't think he's going to take Pennsylvania. PUMA is big in PA. Hillary big wig supporters in the state held a dinner party with a representative of the McCain campaign last week. And this lawsuit was filed in PA.
[Link: www.obamacrimes.com...]

330 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:06:15pm

re: #283 JeremyR

[Link: www.obamacrimes.com...]

One of her attack dogs is going after him to prevent the coronation of the Obamanation.

Is that for real?!

331 baxtrice  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:06:23pm

Barack America; hmm which America is that one? :}

332 TnTx13  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:06:42pm

Fox blonde just called the VA governor "Tim McKaine." Too bad he wasn't chosen!

333 MikeyHunt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:06:44pm

@272

""And the moonbats have their city sponsored stage, with a sound system, facing the Excel Center.""

c'mon, that can't be right.

That would show favoritism and McCain's people would be all over that.

If you are correct , someone needs to raise a stink about it.

Something happened to the Twin Cities about 20 years ago...maybe too much fluoride in the water or winters too cold.
Socialism on the prairie!

334 offendi  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:06:52pm

The better 2008 ticket would have been :

Obama/Jerry Springer

335 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:07:01pm

bbl

336 TnTx13  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:07:08pm

re: #331 baxtrice

Ask John Edwards...

337 TnTx13  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:08:07pm

re: #332 TnTx13

Fox blonde just called the VA governor "Tim McKaine." Too bad he wasn't chosen!

And now they are rerunning the articulate and clean video - keep it coming!

338 Catttt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:08:31pm

re: #330 MandyManners

Is that for real?!

Yes - real lawsuit. Won't get anywhere, but real.

339 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:08:44pm

USA/ BRAZIL Womens indoor voleyball final !

DAMN ,, they don't have bikinis on !

340 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:08:45pm

re: #326 Catttt

Such a lovely day.

I feel like I'm watching a train wreak.

OK, that sounds mean-spirited, but you know what I mean.

Catttt -

When your enemy is shooting him/herself in the foot - stand clear and allow the rounds to penetrate.

-S-

341 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:09:26pm

re: #321 galloping granny

I've been waiting to see this. He did a pretty good job with it.

Don Surber mentioned it. He gave McCain a ding down for it. I say give popcorn a ding up for it.
I agree with Charles, we should stay out of it for now, and let them fight among themselves. It would be a riot if the judge ruled that his citizenship does not matter. And I do NOT mean funny.

342 LEGION  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:09:46pm

re: #292 really grumpy big dog johnson

Thanks dog. Always wondered Why one would die if you drank seawater- now I know!

343 HelloDare  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:09:57pm

One of the most overlooked episodes during the 1987 collapse of Biden's campaign was a snippet of footage captured by C-Span in which the Delaware senator, in response to a question about where he went to law school and what sort of grades he received, delivered this classic line: "I think I have a much higher IQ than you do."

344 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:10:21pm

re: #329 galloping granny

I don't think he's going to take Pennsylvania. PUMA is big in PA. Hillary big wig supporters in the state held a dinner party with a representative of the McCain campaign last week. And this lawsuit was filed in PA.
[Link: www.obamacrimes.com...]

* * *
Hillary people meeting to support Democrats for McCain included
Hillary's ne'er-do-well brother Tony Rodham who lived in the White House with Bill & Hill, and owed child support to his exwife, the daughter of democrat Senator Barbara Boxer of California.

But Hey, if any Hillary supporter's undermining Obama, that's all right by me.

345 MikeyHunt  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:10:36pm

@289

see #37

346 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:11:02pm

re: #330 MandyManners

Is that for real?!

Yes. The suit has been mentioned several places but not by the MSM.
Clintons October suprise in August.

347 Rusty  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:11:05pm

There's going to be an ambush at the convention. Hillary will not sit on hers hands for this "male" ticket!

348 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:11:08pm

re: #341 JeremyR

Don Surber mentioned it. He gave McCain a ding down for it. I say give popcorn a ding up for it.
I agree with Charles, we should stay out of it for now, and let them fight among themselves. It would be a riot if the judge ruled that his citizenship does not matter. And I do NOT mean funny.

McCain did not do this lawsuit. The attorney involved is a lifelong Democrat, former Deputy Attorney General of PA and a HILLARY supporter. Why should McCain get dinged for it?

349 LEGION  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:11:14pm

re: #339 sattv4u2

Good- beat brazil like they did in soccer- HA!

350 Perry  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:11:16pm

Special---fresh crap

351 baxtrice  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:11:20pm

Going to eat (late) lunch. Later Lizards.

352 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:12:02pm

re: #339 sattv4u2

USA/ BRAZIL Womens indoor voleyball final !

DAMN ,, they don't have bikinis on !

* * *
silly SATTVU2, only BEACH VOLLEYBALL BABES wear bikinis.

353 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:12:15pm

re: #346 JeremyR

Yes. The suit has been mentioned several places but not by the MSM.
Clintons October suprise in August.

It was mentioned in a Pennsylvania newspaper two days ago. I posted the link. Just hasn't made it on to TV as yet.

354 Iron Fist  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:12:44pm

re: #316 MandyManners

I ♥ Rove :-þ

355 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:12:58pm

re: #352 alegrias

* * *
silly SATTVU2, only BEACH VOLLEYBALL BABES wear bikinis.

well thats just not right !

356 cliffster  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:14:10pm

It's been fun sharing in the bumbling. Have a good afternoon, all.

357 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:14:13pm

re: #355 sattv4u2

well thats just not right !

* * *
Tell me about it! Sand always getting everywhere...

358 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:14:38pm

re: #348 galloping granny

McCain did not do this lawsuit. The attorney involved is a lifelong Democrat, former Deputy Attorney General of PA and a HILLARY supporter. Why should McCain get dinged for it?

I know, as I mentioned elsewhere, the Clinton October suprise in August, her last shot at claiming the title.
Surber still gave McCain a down ding in his daily scoreboard. Its all about perception.

359 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:14:49pm

Current banner on Fox -

Obama: Biden Is 'A Leader Who Shares My Values'

Which values would those be, Barry? Lying? Racism? Arrogance?

360 Lastrick  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:14:51pm

re: #156 str8outtamonongahela

jesus, i gave it a 48 hour gaffe time....the crap has already started.

Told ya I'd take the under.

361 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:15:18pm

Hey, remember that elderly Clinton supporter who flipped out on that video a few months ago?

Wonder what she's thinking today.

Roll video.

Added bonus: special nuanced reaction from a Clinton insider.

362 Perry  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:15:26pm

re: #354 Iron Fist

Showoff
{F}

363 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:15:29pm

re: #353 galloping granny

It was mentioned in a Pennsylvania newspaper two days ago. I posted the link. Just hasn't made it on to TV as yet.

Alphabet slop will do nothing to hurt their flower child.

364 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:15:33pm

re: #341 JeremyR

"JR" -

The Lawsuit smacks of a "Cheap Shot" - Sen. Obama is the child of a Native Born US MOTHER. That is a FACT - everything else is speculation.
I want Sen. Obama to be DEFEATED - NOT DISQUALIFIED. Invest your intention and energy on his DEFEAT, as shall I.

-S-

365 Dave the.....  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:15:59pm

City of St Paul web site on the stage and sound system the city provided to looney left...right across the street from the Excel Center.

[Link: www.ci.stpaul.mn.us...]

[Link: www.ci.stpaul.mn.us...]

I'm thinking of going down there Moday afternoon to see the circus. And perhaps I will engage in a little street theater with the wackos.

366 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:16:06pm

re: #359 galloping granny

Current banner on Fox -


Which values would those be, Barry? Lying? Racism? Arrogance?

* * *
liberal marxist redistribution tax policies and class warfare; gulags for dissidents; village taking your children.

367 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:16:23pm

re: #334 offendi

The better 2008 ticket would have been :

Obama/Jerry Springer

There should be a Jerry Springer show with Obama and Hillary. Watch out!

368 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:17:36pm

re: #364 Dr. Shalit

"JR" -

The Lawsuit smacks of a "Cheap Shot" - Sen. Obama is the child of a Native Born US MOTHER. That is a FACT - everything else is speculation.
I want Sen. Obama to be DEFEATED - NOT DISQUALIFIED. Invest your intention and energy on his DEFEAT, as shall I.

-S-

* * *
Thank you Dr. for your STRAIGHT TALK!

369 Dave the.....  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:17:37pm

Republicans should stay away from the suit. Actually they should condemn it. This is as bad as Algore trying to win the 2000 election via lawsuit. It denies true democracy. If there was an issue with Obama's status (and there isn't), it should have been brought up and settle 12 months ago.

370 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:17:47pm

re: #364 Dr. Shalit

"JR" -

The Lawsuit smacks of a "Cheap Shot" - Sen. Obama is the child of a Native Born US MOTHER. That is a FACT - everything else is speculation.
I want Sen. Obama to be DEFEATED - NOT DISQUALIFIED. Invest your intention and energy on his DEFEAT, as shall I.

-S-

Hey, I'm not a part to it, just sharing it for the popcorn crowd. I want him slammed in the general election.
Stupid thought, If he wins the general election, and is found to be unqualified, what happens?

371 Iron Fist  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:18:10pm

re: #362 Perry

{Perry}

Are we having fun or what?!?

372 Blackacre  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:18:17pm

Dumb and Dumber 2008

373 outsidephilly  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:18:25pm

re: #330 MandyManners

Is that for real?!

very interesting - not many in the County Seat of Delaware County PA have read through this . . . . , hmmmmmm

374 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:18:41pm

re: #361 JammieWearingFool

Hey, remember that elderly Clinton supporter who flipped out on that video a few months ago?

Wonder what she's thinking today.

Roll video.

Added bonus: special nuanced reaction from a Clinton insider.

Very nice video!

375 obscured by clouds  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:18:55pm

re: #135 MandyManners

Long about his third one.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

OMG that is so funny! Check out the paranoid "It's not Biden!" and the "it shows that he'd be a fun guy to have a beer (or 14) with" comments.

376 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:19:11pm

re: #370 JeremyR

Hey, I'm not a part to it, just sharing it for the popcorn crowd. I want him slammed in the general election.
Stupid thought, If he wins the general election, and is found to be unqualified, what happens?

* * *
It's as dumb as democrats trying to "disqualify" McCain as not being American for being born on an American military installation in Panama when we owned the Panama Canal.

377 Perry  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:19:29pm

re: #371 Iron Fist

{Perry}

Are we having fun or what?!?

Doin a happy dance. I'm so relieved. Biden will sink him.

378 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:19:55pm
379 alegrias  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:20:29pm

re: #375 obscured by clouds

OMG that is so funny! Check out the paranoid "It's not Biden!" and the "it shows that he'd be a fun guy to have a beer (or 14) with" comments.

* * *
If they only care about having a fun beer with their prospective president, they should be nuts about John & Cindy McCain, "Ms. Bud" (Weiser).

Keg party at the White House if McCain wins!

380 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:20:33pm

Is the msm-obama love affair over?

The Overthinking Obama

It is probably fair to say that Obama does not favor infanticide, though his position on the Illinois bill was extreme even by pro-choice standards. But Obama's current problem isn't really about his position on abortion. It is about his central weakness as a presidential candidate: He overthinks and ends up seeming not to know what he thinks.

He can't seem to give a straight answer.

******

Alas, the more he tries to explain his position, the more muddled the picture becomes. The most revealing answer may have come last weekend, when pastor Rick Warren asked him when a baby gets human rights.

"Well, uh, you know, I think that whether you're looking at it from a theological perspective or, uh, a scientific perspective, uh, answering that question with specificity, uh, you know, is, is, uh, above my pay grade."

Well, uh, not really.

Yes, Warren's question was complicated. But the answer is really pretty simple. It's whatever one thinks. It is not above anyone's pay grade to be honest.

Instead, Obama punted.

Look out, Kathleen- the kos kidz might be looking for you.

381 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:20:40pm

JWF, Hot Air just linked you!

382 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:20:56pm

re: #369 Dave the.....

Republicans should stay away from the suit. Actually they should condemn it. This is as bad as Algore trying to win the 2000 election via lawsuit. It denies true democracy. If there was an issue with Obama's status (and there isn't), it should have been brought up and settle 12 months ago.

Obviously there is an issue with it since Barry flew on an Indonesian passport. These things need to be resolved before the general election. I'd hate for Cankles to have any chance of muscling worming her way in to anything.

383 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:21:20pm

re: #364 Dr. Shalit

"JR" -

The Lawsuit smacks of a "Cheap Shot" - Sen. Obama is the child of a Native Born US MOTHER. That is a FACT - everything else is speculation.
I want Sen. Obama to be DEFEATED - NOT DISQUALIFIED. Invest your intention and energy on his DEFEAT, as shall I.

-S-

I will do everything I can to make sure Obama is defeated, but since he is in fact not qualified, I have no problem with a legally constituted court declaring him disqualified.

It is never a "cheap shot" to stand up for the law & Constitution of the United States of America.

384 nogendavid  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:22:24pm

PINKY and INANE


Granted, my proposed nickname for the ticket somewhat oversimplifes.
Obama does have a far left of centre voting record, but in all fairness, this could be as much due to pandering to his local constituency as any real conviction. Biden actually can be quite insightful at times, such as his earlier endorsement of McCain and rejection of Obama. True, Biden has said a lot of assinine things, but if you talk that much, it is statistical inevitability.

At the same time, perhaps the allusion is unduly flattering. Pinky in the cartoon series has deeply rooted convictions that trascend his own ego and situation, such as his commitment to his partner throughout all visiccitudes whereas Obama's only apparent fixed star of belief is that he deserves to be President. Also, I find that Pinky's "Narf" is more intellctually substantive and emotionally evocative than Obama's "Change".

Anyway, I submit into nomination "Pink and Inane" to contest with
"Smug and Plugs", etc, and leave it to the wisdom of the American people to decide.

385 ROP?LOL  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:22:48pm

re: #383 galloping granny

You go girl!

386 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:23:35pm

re: #381 MrPaulRevere

JWF, Hot Air just linked you!

The right wing attack machine is well-oiled today, my friend. I can sit by the pool, grill some ribs, drink beer and contribute to Operation Chaos all at the same time.

387 Dave the.....  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:23:41pm

Even if there is an issue of his status.....this sets a horrible precendence. I've heard it said that Algore is one of the worst Americans ever, because of 2000. Now, anytime there is a close election, the losing said crys "fraud" and tries to win via the courts.

388 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:23:53pm

re: #383 galloping granny

I will do everything I can to make sure Obama is defeated, but since he is in fact not qualified, I have no problem with a legally constituted court declaring him disqualified.

It is never a "cheap shot" to stand up for the law & Constitution of the United States of America.

YOU GO GRANNY!
Thanks.

389 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:24:07pm

re: #370 JeremyR

Hey, I'm not a part to it, just sharing it for the popcorn crowd. I want him slammed in the general election.
Stupid thought, If he wins the general election, and is found to be unqualified, what happens?

Jeremy -

You make me feel as I did back on NOV. 22, 1963 walking home from school with my buddy Martin. He asked the "what happens" question.
Answer is the VP - then LBJ - in your hypothetical - Joe Biden becomes President. The answer would be as it was when I was 12 years old. AND the Republic would continue.

-S-

390 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:24:39pm

re: #376 alegrias

* * *
It's as dumb as democrats trying to "disqualify" McCain as not being American for being born on an American military installation in Panama when we owned the Panama Canal.

No, it is not. McCain was born to two American parents on an American military base located on American territory. He is as American as apple pie - by birth. Just as if he had been born in Washington DC in the very White House itself.

Obama was born somewhere to a father who was specifically not an American citizen. At the time of Obama's birth he was a British citizen. Several years later he acquired Kenyan citizenship when Kenya acquired independence. That makes Obama a dual citizen by birth - entitled to citizenship in all three of those countries. Dual citizens are specifically not naturally born.

391 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:25:35pm
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is calling his running mate, Joe Biden, "a leader who is ready to step in and be president."

Now the strategy is becoming clearer. Obama is merely a gateway to a Biden Presidency.

392 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:26:07pm

re: #387 Dave the.....

Even if there is an issue of his status.....this sets a horrible precendence. I've heard it said that Algore is one of the worst Americans ever, because of 2000. Now, anytime there is a close election, the losing said crys "fraud" and tries to win via the courts.

It has nothing at all to do with his goodness, badness or fitness. It has to do solely and entirely with his status as a "natural born citizen" of the United States of America as required by the Constitution.

393 Dave the.....  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:26:11pm

I think what is more interesting is that both Obama's father and grandfather were polygamists. Papa had his women in the US and another in Kenya. Granddad had several.

394 BBev  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:26:14pm

re: #377 Perry

Doin a happy dance. I'm so relieved. Biden will sink him.

Of all the people in all of America he chose Biden wow. There is a god!

395 right_on_target  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:26:15pm

re: #7 Charles

Obama's sitting behind him on the wall, drinking bottled water.

He probably drinks Perrier ®, to give him more gas and be more elitist.

396 ROP?LOL  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:26:35pm

re: #387 Dave the.....


I call bullshit. First off, the election hasn't taken place yet. Second, just suppose (in a nightmare scenario) that these two jamokes actually win, and it comes out the Messiah is not a citizen. What would you do, forgetaboutit?

397 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:26:56pm

re: #389 Dr. Shalit
Not so fast, what if he isn't sworn in yet?

398 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:27:48pm

re: #389 Dr. Shalit

Jeremy -

You make me feel as I did back on NOV. 22, 1963 walking home from school with my buddy Martin. He asked the "what happens" question.
Answer is the VP - then LBJ - in your hypothetical - Joe Biden becomes President. The answer would be as it was when I was 12 years old. AND the Republic would continue.

-S-

Except that people who would have otherwise elected either John McCain or Hillary Clinton would then be entirely disenfranchised and we would end up with a truly unelected president.

399 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:27:59pm

re: #11 BignJames

Heh. More like Nicotine & Rogaine.

400 least  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:28:04pm

re: #391 solomonpanting

Now the strategy is becoming clearer. Obama is merely a gateway to a Biden Presidency.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

re: #391 solomonpanting

Now the strategy is becoming clearer. Obama is merely a gateway to a Biden Presidency.

401 Dave the.....  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:28:17pm
I call bullshit. First off, the election hasn't taken place yet. Second, just suppose (in a nightmare scenario) that these two jamokes actually win, and it comes out the Messiah is not a citizen. What would you do, forgetaboutit?

He's a citizen of the world. Does that count?

402 Perry  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:28:43pm

re: #399 Cap'n DOC
Or Nicorette and Rogaine?

403 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:29:09pm

re: #383 galloping granny

"GG" -

OK - AND - this is a Federal Lawsuit. With any substantial delay in the Discovery Process - Guess What - NO ADJUDICATION UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION. A WIN on the part of the Plaintiff - AND - Sen. Obama would make Sen. Biden POTUS. Put the energy on defeating the Obama/Biden ticket.

-S-

404 ROP?LOL  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:29:25pm

re: #401 Dave the.....

lol. Only in (western) Europe.

405 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:29:31pm

re: #390 galloping granny

Granny ,, you know I wuv you ,, BUT

My mother (82 y/o) was born here (in Boston) to parents who at the time of her birth neither were US citizens (Italians, came through Ellis Island)). My mother is and always has been a natural citizen

406 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:29:47pm

re: #389 Dr. Shalit

Jeremy -

You make me feel as I did back on NOV. 22, 1963 walking home from school with my buddy Martin. He asked the "what happens" question.
Answer is the VP - then LBJ - in your hypothetical - Joe Biden becomes President. The answer would be as it was when I was 12 years old. AND the Republic would continue.

-S-

I was refering to prior to inaugeration, as in during November or December. If that were to transpire, yo ucan bet that Cankles would file a law suit to seize the presidency. Considering that Biden got slam dunked in Iowa, would it be right to allow him to assend to the office? Nothing is outside the realm of possability now.

407 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:30:03pm

I think McCain could pick Mickey Mouse as a running mate now.

408 least  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:30:08pm

re: #400 least

Just testing -- I don't know why there's a double quote.

409 Tilly  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:30:51pm

You know I wonder since he did not ask Biden until Thursday evening (so his spin machine says), do we think this was his first choice and do we really think if it was this is what little Caroline came up with...

If I did not know any better I would think that maybe Uncle Teddy had more to do with this choice than Caroline...

Teddy and Joe are close and besides Byrd they are considered the two most senior senators on the Democratic side.

I just don't think this is going to work for Obama and I would put a c-note down Hillary is loving this....

410 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:30:52pm

re: #407 Bobibutu

I think McCain could pick Mickey Mouse as a running mate now.

I thought we wanted him to pick someone YOUNGER ,,

411 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:31:00pm

re: #407 Bobibutu

I think McCain could pick Mickey Mouse as a running mate now.

Why not? Obama picked Goofy.

412 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:31:39pm

re: #410 sattv4u2

I thought we wanted him to pick someone YOUNGER ,,

Touche!

413 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:32:12pm

re: #403 Dr. Shalit

"GG" -

OK - AND - this is a Federal Lawsuit. With any substantial delay in the Discovery Process - Guess What - NO ADJUDICATION UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION. A WIN on the part of the Plaintiff - AND - Sen. Obama would make Sen. Biden POTUS. Put the energy on defeating the Obama/Biden ticket.

-S-

There is a request for an injunction filed along with the lawsuit.

414 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:32:29pm

re: #412 Bobibutu

Touche!

although, in a previous thread, I SOMEWHAT tongue in cheek floated the name ZELL MILLER ,,,

415 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:33:00pm

re: #411 solomonpanting

Why not? Obama picked Goofy.

What's that saying? Stupid is as stupid does.

416 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:34:37pm

re: #405 sattv4u2

Granny ,, you know I wuv you ,, BUT

My mother (82 y/o) was born here (in Boston) to parents who at the time of her birth neither were US citizens (Italians, came through Ellis Island)). My mother is and always has been a natural citizen

If your mother's parents were citizens or became citizens while she was a minor then of course she would be a citizen under the old rules.

Obama's father, however, was not a citizen. He was here as a student retaining his citizenship elsewhere, not an immigrant. There is a legal difference.

417 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:34:46pm

re: #413 galloping granny
I don't know squat about constituitional law, but if Obambi/Biden are sworn in and obambi was found to be ineligble would Biden become prez? Or since the ticket was a fraud would it devolve to, God help us, the Speaker of the House?!

418 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:35:46pm

re: #405 sattv4u2

Granny ,, you know I wuv you ,, BUT

My mother (82 y/o) was born here (in Boston) to parents who at the time of her birth neither were US citizens (Italians, came through Ellis Island)). My mother is and always has been a natural citizen

There are a number of factors that come into play for natural vs naturalized citizenship. The term under the law has sparked much debate since people here illegally are not technically under the law.

Obamanations birth is of less consideration then his time in Indonesia where he was adopted by his step father, his mother took citizenery, and he, at the age of ninteen flew on an indonesian passport.
Actions by his mother may come into play here, in which case, he is not qualified to be a senator either.

419 right_on_target  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:35:56pm

re: #155 eaglewingz08

I also noticed that when Obama spoke about Biden's son going to serve in Iraq NO ONE applauded.

Democrats .......
"Support the Troops!"
NOT!

420 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:36:13pm

re: #416 galloping granny

If your mother's parents were citizens or became citizens while she was a minor then of course she would be a citizen under the old rules.

Obama's father, however, was not a citizen. He was here as a student retaining his citizenship elsewhere, not an immigrant. There is a legal difference.

My moms father died when she was 2 y/o. Her mother didn;t become a citizen until much much later. Mom's a US citizen (she was born HERE) plain and simple

421 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:36:14pm

Biden is about to be exposed, coast to coast, for the dork that he is. Sad way to go out Joe, but hey, sometimes life just ain't fair.

422 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:36:54pm

BBL

423 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:36:57pm

re: #417 pingjockey

I don't know squat about constituitional law, but if Obambi/Biden are sworn in and obambi was found to be ineligble would Biden become prez? Or since the ticket was a fraud would it devolve to, God help us, the Speaker of the House?!

Yup to all of that. That is why it is important that a court look at this now. There are simply too many indications that Obama absolutely is not constitutionally qualified to be POTUS.

424 lewisge  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:37:12pm

no..no..no... the bumper sticker should read... "Obama lin Biden"

425 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:37:35pm

re: #420 sattv4u2

My moms father died when she was 2 y/o. Her mother didn;t become a citizen until much much later. Mom's a US citizen (she was born HERE) plain and simple

Her parents were legal immigrants, not students who retained their citizenship elsewhere.

426 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:37:40pm

re: #421 The Shadow Do

Biden is about to be exposed, coast to coast, for the dork that he is. Sad way to go out Joe, but hey, sometimes life just ain't fair.

can you say Geraldine Ferraro?

427 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:37:41pm

re: #417 pingjockey

I don't know squat about constituitional law, but if Obambi/Biden are sworn in and obambi was found to be ineligble would Biden become prez? Or since the ticket was a fraud would it devolve to, God help us, the Speaker of the House?!

Stop it - right now! Don't even think that way!

428 tradewind  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:37:51pm

re: #310 MrPaulRevere

Kerry thought he was going to get some Southern states... NC, for one, and he spent tons in FL.
Then again. he thought he'd get the VV vote, too.......
Not too swift of him.

429 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:39:26pm

re: #426 sattv4u2

can you say Geraldine Ferraro?

Heh.

430 ROP?LOL  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:39:26pm

re: #411 solomonpanting

Why not? Obama picked Goofy.

Dumbo picked Goofy!

/cheap ear shot

431 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:39:30pm

re: #417 pingjockey

I don't know squat about constituitional law, but if Obambi/Biden are sworn in and obambi was found to be ineligble would Biden become prez? Or since the ticket was a fraud would it devolve to, God help us, the Speaker of the House?!

At that point, Joe is prez. The possibilities for an earlier end are scary.

432 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:39:48pm

re: #425 galloping granny

Her parents were legal immigrants, not students who retained their citizenship elsewhere.

and HIS mother was a US citizen (and he weas born here). This is like the Birth Cert. issue from a couple of weeks ago. A complete non-starter. A distraction which the Dems will pin on the Repubs (no matter WHO filed the suit)
I agree with dr Shalit (and others) Beat OBAMA on the merits (or his lack thereof)

433 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:39:51pm

re: #418 JeremyR

There are a number of factors that come into play for natural vs naturalized citizenship. The term under the law has sparked much debate since people here illegally are not technically under the law.

Obamanations birth is of less consideration then his time in Indonesia where he was adopted by his step father, his mother took citizenery, and he, at the age of ninteen flew on an indonesian passport.
Actions by his mother may come into play here, in which case, he is not qualified to be a senator either.

Yes, I did not know about the Indonesian passport, though I suspected because he and Michelle spent nearly a year in Bali while he was writing Dreams. Dual citizen children were required by law (still in existence at the time Obama turned 18) to choose their nationality at the age of 18 - and once you had chosen, that was it.

434 LEGION  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:39:57pm

re: #302 MandyManners

I Yi Yi Yiiiiiiiii I am a frito bandito I love fritos cornchips I love them I do---

Youtube Video

435 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:40:07pm

This isn't Christmas.

/is this Christmas?

436 tradewind  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:40:44pm

re: #399 Cap'n DOC

That's cold...:)
We can't really do a lot of that, because you know what they'd go at McCain with.....

437 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:41:10pm

re: #432 sattv4u2

and HIS mother was a US citizen (and he weas born here). This is like the Birth Cert. issue from a couple of weeks ago. A complete non-starter. A distraction which the Dems will pin on the Repubs (no matter WHO filed the suit)
I agree with dr Shalit (and others) Beat OBAMA on the merits (or his lack thereof)

Documents in Kenya claim he was born in Kenya. Then mom flew back to Hawaii.

438 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:41:12pm

re: #435 Killian Bundy

This isn't Christmas.

/is this Christmas?

are you allowed to say CHRISTmas?

439 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:41:29pm

re: #432 sattv4u2

and HIS mother was a US citizen (and he weas born here). This is like the Birth Cert. issue from a couple of weeks ago. A complete non-starter. A distraction which the Dems will pin on the Repubs (no matter WHO filed the suit)
I agree with dr Shalit (and others) Beat OBAMA on the merits (or his lack thereof)

The rules (including in the constitution as I recall) are specific that both parents must be citizens for him to be "naturally born." Obama's father was not a US citizen.

440 HelloDare  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:41:54pm

At the Tuesday-morning meeting with committee staffers, Biden launches into a stream-of-consciousness monologue about what his committee should be doing, before he finally admits the obvious: "I'm groping here." Then he hits on an idea: America needs to show the Arab world that we're not bent on its destruction. "Seems to me this would be a good time to send, no strings attached, a check for $200 million to Iran," Biden declares. He surveys the table with raised eyebrows, a How do ya like that? look on his face.

The staffers sit in silence. Finally somebody ventures a response: "I think they'd send it back." Then another aide speaks up delicately: "The thing I would worry about is that it would almost look like a publicity stunt." Still another reminds Biden that an Iranian delegation is in Moscow that very day to discuss a $300 million arms deal with Vladimir Putin that the United States has strongly condemned. But Joe Biden is barely listening anymore. He's already moved on to something else.

441 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:42:07pm

re: #437 JeremyR

Documents in Kenya claim he was born in Kenya. Then mom flew back to Hawaii.

and these "documents" are where ?

442 Truck Monkey  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:42:31pm

re: #402 Perry

Or Nicorette and Rogaine?

Better yet:
Hussein and Rogaine '08!

This is just too much fun. It should be illegal to feel the way I feel right now.

443 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:43:24pm

re: #398 galloping granny

Except that people who would have otherwise elected either John McCain or Hillary Clinton would then be entirely disenfranchised and we would end up with a truly unelected president.

"gg"

Like Gerald R. Ford? - gg - we are generally a Democracy - AND - Beyond that a Constitutional Republic. As a 2000 Gore-Lieberman voter, I understood "Checkmate" when I saw it. I wasn't a whiner, I knew the score, living as close as I did to the "7 Presidents Park" at the time I knew that Pres. Hayes got less votes than Tilden in (18)'76 and became President after a "deal" was made with the States of the former Confederacy. Our Founding Documents allow for "wiggle room" in resolving Constitutional crises. Since the founding of the Republic, we have had only ONE Civil War. Let's keep it that way.

-S-

444 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:44:00pm

re: #441 sattv4u2

and these "documents" are where ?

The documents are actually cited in that court filing. Attorneys generally do not cite the existence of documents that do not exist.

445 tradewind  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:44:39pm

re: #144 karmic_inquisitor

He's the Eli Stone of the Senate.

446 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:45:15pm

re: #444 galloping granny

The documents are actually cited in that court filing. Attorneys generally do not cite the existence of documents that do not exist.

my question still stands ,,, and these "documents" are where ?

447 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:46:22pm

re: #433 galloping granny

Yes, I did not know about the Indonesian passport, though I suspected because he and Michelle spent nearly a year in Bali while he was writing Dreams. Dual citizen children were required by law (still in existence at the time Obama turned 18) to choose their nationality at the age of 18 - and once you had chosen, that was it.

Not choosing is a choice, in which case, he is Indonesian.
Bottom line, the guy needs to air his closet.

448 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:46:56pm

re: #446 sattv4u2

my question still stands ,,, and these "documents" are where ?

If he intends to present them as evidence,they should be attached.

449 tradewind  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:47:04pm

Why isn't Markos foaming over Biden? He's the only Dem who dissed the Nutroots convention in LostWages. Every other candidate, even HRC, groveled at addressed their little summit.

450 kuffar  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:47:08pm

re: #442 Truck Monkey

Better yet:
Hussein and Rogaine '08!

This is just too much fun. It should be illegal to feel the way I feel right now.

In Soviet America it will.

451 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:47:35pm

re: #443 Dr. Shalit

"gg"

Like Gerald R. Ford? - gg - we are generally a Democracy - AND - Beyond that a Constitutional Republic. As a 2000 Gore-Lieberman voter, I understood "Checkmate" when I saw it. I wasn't a whiner, I knew the score, living as close as I did to the "7 Presidents Park" at the time I knew that Pres. Hayes got less votes than Tilden in (18)'76 and became President after a "deal" was made with the States of the former Confederacy. Our Founding Documents allow for "wiggle room" in resolving Constitutional crises. Since the founding of the Republic, we have had only ONE Civil War. Let's keep it that way.

-S-

Wiggle room should not apply to the basic requirements of citizenship and office holding for the highest office in our nation.

452 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:48:45pm

re: #413 galloping granny

There is a request for an injunction filed along with the lawsuit.

"gg" -

Which will probably be denied.

-S-

453 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:48:45pm

re: #439 galloping granny

The rules (including in the constitution as I recall) are specific that both parents must be citizens for him to be "naturally born." Obama's father was not a US citizen.

article 2, section 1 clause 5 of the constition makes no mention of parent(s) status

454 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:49:52pm

re: #448 MandyManners

If he intends to present them as evidence,they should be attached.

I know where they're NOT ,,, i'm asking where they ARE ! I didn't see them "attached"

455 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:50:36pm

Foriegn policy experience. Let's see, Biden wanted to spilit Iraq into three parts. As I said at the time, a very bad idea.

/last night, Fox had a tipsy Bob Beckel, the best thing besides Ol' Plugs hisself, on the phone and Beckel said partitioning Iraq was still a good idea

456 tradewind  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:50:38pm

re: #437 JeremyR

Enough... don't make Charles come over here! (Not meaning just you, just saying..)
The Dalai Bama would never have made it into the US Senate if he could have been residentially challenged.

457 talon_262  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:50:48pm

re: #266 alegrias

* * *
What's an RO machine?

I drink tap water exclusively--even in District of Columbia--I like fluoridation & chloridation!

RO = Reverse Osmosis

458 Abu Bin Squid  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:51:17pm

Too hard to read the whole thread, but the size of the crowd has been questioned. Roughly 1 hour before this snooze fest began a radio reporter from WBBM 780AM in Chicago (her name I don't recall) was breathless that "hundreds, maybe thousands" were gathered and still gathering.
Maybe thousands? Heh.

(LGF's spell check doesn't recognize "heh"? Get Stinky on the phone!)

459 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:51:52pm

re: #428 tradewind

The last 3 Democrat Presidents were southerners, and Clinton and Carter were Governors. When you have a winning formula, you stick with it, instead of trying to stick a square peg in a round hole. I suspect the progressives running the Obama campaign has written off the south because they have a deep animosity toward southerners, bitter clingers and all of that.

460 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:52:02pm

re: #448 MandyManners

If he intends to present them as evidence,they should be attached.

I'm not sure that they do need to be attached to the basic filing. That is usually only a statement of claims, not a handover of all of your evidence.

461 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:52:19pm

re: #458 Abu Bin Squid

(LGF's spell check doesn't recognize "heh"? Get Stinky on the phone!)

try "FEH"

462 tradewind  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:52:40pm

re: #458 Abu Bin Squid

It doesn't recognize ya'll either. I call shenanigans/discrimination against us Southerners.

463 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:53:04pm

re: #455 Killian Bundy

Foriegn policy experience. Let's see, Biden wanted to spilit Iraq into three parts. As I said at the time, a very bad idea.

/last night, Fox had a tipsy Bob Beckel, the best thing besides Ol' Plugs hisself, on the phone and Beckel said partitioning Iraq was still a good idea

I heard on FNC today that even the Iraqis thought that was a bad idea.

464 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:53:31pm

My screen goes gray when I submit.

465 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:53:34pm

re: #456 tradewind

Enough... don't make Charles come over here! (Not meaning just you, just saying..)
The Dalai Bama would never have made it into the US Senate if he could have been residentially challenged.

Not necessarily true. The "natural born citizen" requirement applies only to the POTUS.

466 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:53:45pm

I think we might be getting close to the point where the MSM turns against Obama because they do not want to see their own unmerited power diminished by being seen as backing such a loser.

And they count on the people to have no memory, and it is after all 3 months or so till the election, and they think we will forget that the MSM pushed this who was he?

467 uncleFuzzy  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:53:55pm

My apologies if this has already been posted (been busy getting ready for baby).

Feds Scrap Self-Deportation Program for Illegals

Now it's back to readying the house. Later, lizards.

468 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 23, 2008 1:54:00pm

re: #464 MandyManners

My screen goes gray when I submit.

you converting to Muslim?