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Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 6:55:15 pm PDT
LGF reader “Megulator” was vacationing in Maine and came upon a “living history museum” that contained a historic post office building. Inside was a cache of FBI wanted posters from 1971, the date the post office officially closed. Among these old documents: the original FBI Most Wanted poster for Barack Obama associate Bernardine Dohrn. (Click for a larger version.)
598 comments
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JammieWearingFool Sat, Aug 23, 2008 6:56:47pm |
That's not the Bernardine Dohrn Joe Biden knew.
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JammieWearingFool Sat, Aug 23, 2008 6:57:46pm |
After all, she's just a casual associate who babysits Michelle Obama's children.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Aug 23, 2008 6:59:01pm |
Good evening everyone!
What a great artiFACT and such a perfect time for it, too!
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LEGION Sat, Aug 23, 2008 6:59:18pm |
Someday I predict Obama's mug will be on a Post Office Wall, and those who supported him! Shame on them all!
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loppyd Sat, Aug 23, 2008 6:59:32pm |
re: #3 JammieWearingFool
After all, she's just a casual associate who babysits Michelle Obama's children.
What?
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barry the baptist Sat, Aug 23, 2008 6:59:56pm |
Good Lord, who won't BHO associate himself with?
Oh, sorry, right.
People who love the country.
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loppyd Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:00:14pm |
I'd like to know where in Maine this is....possibly heading there next weekend.
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Russkilitlover Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:00:27pm |
Hopefully, the McCain camp has this info....
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mattm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:00:30pm |
Nothing to see here, move along. Just imagine whit Hope for Change in the future.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:00:51pm |
Has anyone noticed if Ayers wears a flag pin?/
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Russkilitlover Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:01:41pm |
re: #8 loppyd
Evening, Loppyd! You've been a sporadic poster of late. Any wedding bells soon?
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stevieray Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:02:00pm |
Didn't you hear?
Marxist domestic terrorists are mainstream now... Mayor Daley [the younger] said so.
That's a relic of a repressive time.
/
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LEGION Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:02:12pm |
re: #7 barry the baptist
The kid of love a sadistic relative who wants to off the young relatives shows, to get the fortune. A series of unfortunate events.
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USA Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:02:16pm |
She approved of Charles Manson
Obama's Head of Homeland Security?
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JammieWearingFool Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:02:56pm |
Good news. Dohrn is now a law professor.
[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]
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Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:03:12pm |
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loppyd Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:04:29pm |
re: #13 Russkilitlover
Evening, Loppyd! You've been a sporadic poster of late. Any wedding bells soon?
Hey there!
Busy enjoying summer and work has been off the hook.
Funny you should ask about those wedding bells....I have some new jewelry on my left hand. :~)
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BGOH Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:04:50pm |
re: #14 stevieray
Didn't you hear?
Marxist domestic terrorists are mainstream now... Mayor Daley [the younger] said so.
That's a relic of a repressive time.
/
Dude, its the new black!
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:04:52pm |
re: #3 JammieWearingFool
After all, she's just a casual associate who babysits Michelle Obama's children.
Doesn't Ayers babysit, too?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:05:03pm |
I would prefer if he and all his "associates' were pictured on Milk Cartons !
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angst Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:05:07pm |
I hope the Megulator emails this to the McCain campaign.
What an ad this would make.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:05:40pm |
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loppyd Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:06:01pm |
re: #22 MandyManners
Doesn't Ayers babysit, too?
Come over here girls and sit on Uncle Bill's knee. Tonight we're going to read The Communist Manifesto....
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:06:05pm |
re: #12 CapeCoddah
Has anyone noticed if Ayers wears a flag pin?/
I've seen the bastard STANDING on the American flag.
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Outrider Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:06:26pm |
"Dig it! Manson killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim's stomach." -- Bernardine Dohrn on the Tate/LaBianca murders, 1969.
What a class act for a potential POTUS to hang with. But she is married to Ayers so I guess they are a package deal?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:06:28pm |
Any chance that Jimmy Hoffa is in BHO's closet?
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LEGION Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:06:32pm |
re: #26 MandyManners
Ehhh, those wussies probably won't do anything with it- I'll be happily surprised if they do!
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loppyd Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:07:01pm |
re: #25 LEGION
Won't be a WS ring this year! LOL Go RAYS!
LOL
I can't jinx my Red Sox, but I will say your Rays are pretty impressive.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:07:07pm |
re: #24 angst
Here's one with Ayers and Dorn
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Silhouette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:07:12pm |
re: #24 angst
I hope the Megulator emails this to the McCain campaign.
What an ad this would make.
I would hope the McCain campaign has at least one person reading lgf.
Two hopes in one post. Does everyone have to drink double?
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seekeroftruth Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:07:30pm |
Awesome find Megulator and thanks Charles. I hope we see this in an ad. I'm tired of the MSM covering up for Obama.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:07:39pm |
That would piss me off, but it does not surprise me.
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Karridine Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:09:04pm |
re: #18 JammieWearingFool
Good news. Dohrn is now a law professor.
[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]
For those of us who lived through those times, defending America from 'enemies foreign' and reading of the Dohrn-like attack of 'enemies... domestic', it was trying and not at all a trivial or minor matter!
Shame on Obama & Dohrn!
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daddyo Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:09:39pm |
Gosh, I wonder how many houses Bernardine owned.
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Outrider Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:09:41pm |
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hartabuna Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:09:55pm |
I call the Obama-Biden ticket the "Louis Vuitton" campaign:
When Douchebag met Gasbag.....
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JammieWearingFool Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:10:27pm |
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angst Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:10:46pm |
re: #33 Killgore Trout
Here's one with Ayers and Dorn
Sweet! Unless you're Obama, of course.
re: #34 Silhouette
I would hope the McCain campaign has at least one person reading lgf.
Two hopes in one post. Does everyone have to drink double?
Wait, that's a double for each "hope", isn't it? So, that's a quadruple. Man, I'm going to be calling it quits early.
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Karridine Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:10:57pm |
re: #29 Outrider
What a class act for a potential POTUS to hang with. But she is married to Ayers so I guess they are a package deal?
Two demons, linked in demonic pain and betrayal, damned to spend eternity with each other...
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LEGION Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:11:58pm |
re: #32 loppyd
Ehhh, they are not mine- Yankee fan here- I'm ABB- Anybody but Boston! But you are still the Wild card leader- at least you have hope. We have to go on a crazy win steak with retreads and cripples- Pavano for goodness sakes- although he did good against the Orioles tonite. Hope springs eternal- hey the JETS beat the giants! Yeah!
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Paul Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:12:00pm |
What a good communist wears to a bombing: note that Bernadine's dressed in leather, she was always a fashion conscious revolutionary.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:12:36pm |
This poster should be a McCain ad. No commentary. No sound. Just the poster.
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Red Cloud Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:12:42pm |
If criticising your government is patriotic - aka, the liberal definition of patriotism - Bernardine Dohrn is a regular Betsy Ross. No wonder The One is chummy.
I can't believe the Dems managed to find someone more aloof, hypocritical, and elitist than Jean-Francois Kerry.
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de La Valette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:12:57pm |
I will admit I can see the raised seal on that document.
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Mosse Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:13:21pm |
Excellent! I just sent a pointed letter to Sean Hannity, on whose show Larry Sabato insisted that "ordinary Americans" don't care about Obama's associations with Ayers, et al. What nonsense! I have a gang of degrees but I work with primarily lower- and lower-middle class people, mostly people of color, as an instructor, and THEY were the first to pick up that there were inconsistencies and suspicious aspects to Obama's "magic!" LONG before middle-class people with strings of degrees recognized it and also long before all the information we've all been collecting on the guy was available publicly! They knew that something about Obama was "just not right!" Ugh. "Pundits." Keep these relationships front and center. Keep finding more (Pat Cadell just mentioned there's something of great concern about Bill Daley -- Mayor Daley's brother -- and Joe Biden -- I just posted a bit on it). All this information is crucial as all of us "ordinary Americans" reject this dangerous phony! And the crowd he runs with!
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loppyd Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:13:24pm |
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de La Valette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:13:37pm |
re: #46 The Shadow Do
Along with the Aristotle quote Charles had up earlier today.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:13:49pm |
re: #46 The Shadow Do
This poster should be a McCain ad. No commentary. No sound. Just the poster.
Not everyone knows of the connections. Gotta' have some commentary. Maybe some recent photographs of them together.
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angst Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:14:06pm |
re: #46 The Shadow Do
This poster should be a McCain ad. No commentary. No sound. Just the poster.
Juxtaposed with the invitation to the fundraising party at chez Ayers.
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jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:14:17pm |
re: #18 JammieWearingFool
Good news. Dohrn is now a law professor.
[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]
And Ayers teaches teachers to teach indoctrinate.
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Yosemite Bill Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:14:26pm |
#26 MandyM
I saw that photo - If that bastard ever pulls that stunt while I am within sprinting distance he's gonna get a 'molecular realignment.'
Sorry, but I am done being nice to Leftist sphincter muscles - I think I can put it that way and not be booted.
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Ceemack Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:14:38pm |
Wanted posters like this do not help Michelle Obama's kids.
Come to think of it, they don't do much for her husband either.
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LEGION Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:15:07pm |
re: #48 Killgore Trout
The dumbos running one of B.O.'s Texas campaign offices had a pic of Che on their wall. The MSM paid it no mind. They all probably have a commie flag on the back wall of their garages!
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Silhouette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:15:30pm |
re: #45 Paul
What a good communist wears to a bombing: note that Bernadine's dressed in leather, she was always a fashion conscious revolutionary.
Cows are sustainable. So, they're like totally green, you know.
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Proud to be American Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:15:34pm |
re: #7 barry the baptist
Good Lord, who won't BHO associate himself with?
Oh, sorry, right.
People who love the country.
And our troops.
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loppyd Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:15:51pm |
re: #44 LEGION
Ehhh, they are not mine- Yankee fan here- I'm ABB- Anybody but Boston! But you are still the Wild card leader- at least you have hope. We have to go on a crazy win steak with retreads and cripples- Pavano for goodness sakes- although he did good against the Orioles tonite. Hope springs eternal- hey the JETS beat the giants! Yeah!
During my years posting at LGF I have learned that there are some very nice people who root for the Yankees.....misguided, but nice all the same.
/ducking
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The Shadow Do Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:16:13pm |
re: #47 Red Cloud
I can't believe the Dems managed to find someone more aloof, hypocritical, and elitist than Jean-Francois Kerry.
Because he is none of those things. He is a true believer.
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Ceemack Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:16:26pm |
re: #38 daddyo
Gosh, I wonder how many houses Bernardine owned.
It might be more important to know exactly how many she bombed.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:16:34pm |
re: #56 Yosemite Bill
#26 MandyM
I saw that photo - If that bastard ever pulls that stunt while I am within sprinting distance he's gonna get a 'molecular realignment.'
Sorry, but I am done being nice to Leftist sphincter muscles - I think I can put it that way and not be booted.
I felt a surge of testosterone just reading your post!
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JammieWearingFool Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:17:00pm |
re: #63 loppyd
During my years posting at LGF I have learned that there are some very nice people who root for the Yankees.....misguided, but nice all the same.
/ducking
Yankees?
Are they still playing?
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victor_yugo Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:17:09pm |
re: #58 trailortrash
only in america...
...can a poor black kid from the ghettos grow up to be a rich white woman.
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Red Cloud Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:17:28pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:17:43pm |
re: #68 victor_yugo
...can a poor black kid from the ghettos grow up to be a rich white woman.
Oh, you're cruel.
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victor_yugo Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:18:06pm |
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The Shadow Do Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:18:22pm |
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loppyd Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:18:54pm |
re: #67 JammieWearingFool
Yankees?
Are they still playing?
I know it's looking grim, but to me the Yankees are like Glenn Close jumping out of that bathtub in Fatal Atraction. Don't turn around.
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EuskalHerria Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:19:39pm |
Kaixo!
A man is Known by the company he keeps. Birds of a feather flock together. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and is continually seen in the company of ducks, IT'S A DUCK! AAAflack!
Agur!
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Miss Trixie Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:19:47pm |
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victor_yugo Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:19:47pm |
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Outrider Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:20:40pm |
re: #61 Silhouette
Cows are sustainable. So, they're like totally green, you know.
Refresh my memory. Weren't they blaming part of GW on bovine flatulence?
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Bobblehead Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:20:41pm |
re: #67 JammieWearingFool
Jammie..I like your "Smug and Plugs" . Great bumper sticker matrial
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Red Cloud Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:21:07pm |
So am I right in saying that the current message from The One and The Pun is... McCain's rich?
Ahh, class warfare. What a unifying tactic. I mean, as we all know, The One is a uniter, not a divider. He doesn't divide by race or class or anything like that.
There is no candidate but Obama, and I bear witness that Biden is his messenger.
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bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:21:12pm |
re: #79 victor_yugo
The crypt keeper used to scare the crap out of my little sister, not the stories, but that creepy puppet.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:21:33pm |
re: #53 MandyManners
Not everyone knows of the connections. Gotta' have some commentary. Maybe some recent photographs of them together.
No commentary. Folks will be curious. Won't take them long to figure it out. When they come to it on their own - far more impact full.
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loppyd Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:21:34pm |
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LEGION Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:22:03pm |
re: #67 JammieWearingFool
Just finished in Baltimore- only 5 back in the loss column for the Wild Card, not insurmountable at all! GO YANKS!
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victor_yugo Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:22:39pm |
re: #77 EuskalHerria
"One night in late October,
When I was far from sober,
And carrying home my 'load' with manly pride,
My feet began to stutter,
So I lay down in the gutter,
And a pig came up and lay down by my side.
Then we sang, 'It's all fair weather
When good friends get together'
'Til a lady passing by was heard to say,
'You can tell a man who boozes
By the company he chooses!'
And the pig got up and slowly walked away."
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MrPaulRevere Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:22:47pm |
David Horowitz took her apart in his book Radical Son. Bernadine used her...uhhm...charms to recruit and reward young men into the cause.
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Silhouette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:22:48pm |
re: #68 victor_yugo
...can a
poorblack kid fromthe ghettosnice middle class neighborhood grow up to be a rich white woman.
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Yosemite Bill Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:22:57pm |
# 62 PtbA -
I like your NIC. Speaking of which and slightly OT -
I am trying to read Party of Defeat by D Horowitz .
It is difficult because I can only read a few pages at a time and I have to stop to let my rage cool .
The details presented are just mind boggling .
How the Dems are in control of Congress and have a shot at the WH ?
Folks it could be 1938 again with the bad guys with Nucs this time ..... .
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Beach Lover Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:23:22pm |
anyone else reading "The Obama Nation"?
Lots of interesting stuff on the connections of Ayers & Dornan with Obama. Like minded people always manage to find each other.
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pegcity Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:23:23pm |
re: #82 Red Cloud
the rich vs the super rich.
Poor Obama, hes only rich, must suck only having a 6000 sq ft house.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:23:32pm |
re: #85 The Shadow Do
No commentary. Folks will be curious. Won't take them long to figure it out. When they come to it on their own - far more impact full.
I'd still run it with recent photographs of them together.
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Red Cloud Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:23:34pm |
re: #89 MrPaulRevere
David Horowitz took her apart in his book Radical Son. Bernadine used her...uhhm...charms to recruit and reward young men into the cause.
She's not a whore... she's liberated.
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Miss Trixie Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:24:13pm |
re: #86 loppyd
Thanks, Miss Trixie!
LOL at the video....good thing we're in the digital age now. :)
I'll say. My wedding was recorded for posterity with cave drawings ...
:D
I'm vey happy for you both, darls. *hug*
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Outrider Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:24:17pm |
re: #68 victor_yugo
...can a poor black kid from the ghettos grow up to be a rich white woman.
Is this close enough? Not white though.
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loppyd Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:24:21pm |
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MrPaulRevere Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:24:48pm |
re: #95 Red Cloud
Oh, she was quite effective too from what I read.
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sleepyone Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:25:04pm |
Maybe I missed it but did the location of this museum get mentioned? I live in Maine and would love to go see something like this.
Anyone know where this is?
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loppyd Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:25:31pm |
re: #101 Red Cloud
I guess I should have used a sarc tag. :)
I was kidding too. Knew what you meant!
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kynna Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:25:36pm |
Sadly, there are so many on the left who agree with this woman's ideology, and even her methods, that this kind of image will mean nothing to them. They think anyone who is bothered by Obama's associates is over-reacting.
They really do think we're the crazy ones.
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Ojoe Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:25:57pm |
Charles, could you, would you, make that image at the top there, throb back and forth with a current photo of Ms. Dohrn, especially a photo of her + Obama, like your famous throbbing memo?
'Twould be cool.
Thanks.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:26:12pm |
re: #94 MandyManners
I'd still run it with recent photographs of them together.
I'm with you on that. Make the connection. Make it visually. Words are cheap in a political battle.
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kuffar Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:26:31pm |
Jeez.
And what can be said of a man who hangs with Domestic terrorists. Who, dare I say it, are guilty of Treason...
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victor_yugo Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:26:40pm |
re: #84 MandyManners
What do "Kaixo" and "Agur" mean?
"Hello!"
Although, more equivalent to "Aloha" or "Good day", for both meeting and departing.
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pegcity Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:26:42pm |
re: #104 kynna
it dosen't take much to get a leftist to go on a full blown kill everyone who is a leftist rant.
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jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:27:31pm |
The Olympics men's marathon just went through Tiananmen Square.
It's only been 19 years.....
Such short memories we have.
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ErnieG Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:27:45pm |
re: #33 Killgore Trout
Here's one with Ayers and Dorn
I notice from the poster that there are two others, Kathy Boudin and Judy Clark. Judy Clark is in prison for the Brink's robbery in which a police officer was killed, so is not available to aid in the Obama campaign. Boudin, who was in the same robbery, has been on parole since 2003, so it would appear that she would fit right in.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:27:47pm |
re: #108 victor_yugo
"Hello!"
Although, more equivalent to "Aloha" or "Good day", for both meeting and departing.
In what language?
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yochanan Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:27:56pm |
re: #18 JammieWearingFool
Good news. Dohrn is now a law professor.
[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]
one of the reasons i can't stand northwestern, other reasons prof butz who said the holocoust did not happen, and profs who said we deserved sept 11 on sept 12, 2001
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Red Cloud Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:28:25pm |
re: #102 LEGION
She's a whore who was liberated.
Liberated whores. Hmm. Sounds like the title of a Tarantino flick.
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MrPaulRevere Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:28:30pm |
re: #95 Red Cloud
Anytime a man started to get attached she would give them the spiel about 'smashing bourgeois morals'. A real piece of work, Mrs. Ayers
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Ojoe Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:28:52pm |
The poster says:
"Dohrn reportedly may resist arrest, has been associated with persons who advocate e use of explosives, and may have acquired firearms. Considered dangerous."
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loppyd Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:29:12pm |
re: #110 jcm
The Olympics men's marathon just went through Tiananmen Square.
It's only been 19 years.....
Such short memories we have.
Creepy.
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Paul Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:29:43pm |
William Ayers & Bernadine Dohrn
You don't need a Weatherman to know which way Obama will go.
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Thor-Zone Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:30:22pm |
re: #50 Mosse
THEY were the first to pick up that there were inconsistencies and suspicious aspects to Obama's "magic!" LONG before middle-class people with strings of degrees recognized it and also long before all the information we've all been collecting on the guy was available publicly!
Educated derelicts.
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kuffar Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:30:31pm |
re: #118 Paul
Only Right Wing extremists are guilty and evil. Left Wing extremists are 'freedom fighters'.
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Barry the Baptist Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:30:38pm |
Wanted:
Staff member to work closely with presidential candidate Barack Obama. Qualified candidate will have experience in double speak, subversive activities, and 'tolerance.' Also, qualified candidate should have at least 5 years of the following:
1- jail time.
2- hiding from the FBI via its Most Wanted List.
3- terrorist activities such as, but not including, bombing the Pentagon, Capitol or other US government building.
Please send letter of interest and resume to:
Barack Milhouse Obama
666 Mayor Daly Drive
Chicago, Ill 60666
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The Shadow Do Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:30:52pm |
re: #107 kuffar
Jeez.
And what can be said of a man who hangs with Domestic terrorists. Who, dare I say it, are guilty of Treason...
1. What can be said is that he is anti-American
2. They are obviously guilty of treason, there should be no trepidation in saying it.
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victor_yugo Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:30:54pm |
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jorline Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:31:35pm |
It must be rough to be Obama.
It seem all the mud thrown on his wall of life sticks.
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Beach Lover Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:33:49pm |
I think the reporter on Fox right now is drunk!
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victor_yugo Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:33:50pm |
re: #123 victor_yugo
And "EuskalHerria" means "BasqueNation".
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:34:15pm |
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bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:34:30pm |
re: #114 Red Cloud
"thats when the whores come in. doin' their booty shake for the men folk."
/Tommy Boy
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LEGION Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:34:34pm |
re: #114 Red Cloud
Death Proof- the original Quentin flick- then the remake Death Race 2000- this Death Race- also Death Race 3000 in Montreal. Mind numbing.
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kynna Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:34:40pm |
I'm actually surprised this poster is still in this museum. I doubt it will be there tomorrow.
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de La Valette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:35:04pm |
re: #111 ErnieG
Who want to hold their breath until either of those two get an MSM interview? It will only be about 80 days.
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Tigger2005 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:35:15pm |
re: #91 Yosemite Bill
# 62 PtbA -
I like your NIC. Speaking of which and slightly OT -
I am trying to read Party of Defeat by D Horowitz .
It is difficult because I can only read a few pages at a time and I have to stop to let my rage cool .
The details presented are just mind boggling .
How the Dems are in control of Congress and have a shot at the WH ?
Folks it could be 1938 again with the bad guys with Nucs this time ..... .
It's been 1938 with the bad guys with nukes since the 1950's. It's just that there's now more bad guys with nukes, in very unstable countries.
The probability of nuclear war is rapidly approaching over 100%, IMO.
But all we can do is keep on soldiering on.
| 133 |
Miss Trixie Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:35:29pm |
re: #125 Beach Lover
I think the reporter on Fox right now is drunk!
*snicker*
Hiya, toots! Haven't talked to you in a long time. All's well?
| 134 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:35:42pm |
Professor Dorhn has been a commencement speaker at several university graduations, including California's prestigious Pitzer College, where in 2004 she told the graduates: "During your student years here, the shredded economy and loss of jobs, the consequences of deregulation and devolution that bankrupted state and local governments, the relentless punishment and imprisoning of over two million people in America, flagrant corporate plunder and criminality, rolling blackouts, the apparently permanent war on terrorism, the shock and awe occupation of Iraq, systematic and degrading detention without trial, torture and extra-judicial assassinations, and the establishment of a crescent of new U.S. military bases across the Middle East and South Asia -- all have transformed whatever blissful illusions were harbored as you entered college."
| 135 |
Barry the Baptist Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:36:15pm |
re: #18 JammieWearingFool
This pisses me off. Whatever happened to the DEATH PENALTY for treasonous activity? Or jail time for SEDITION? Why the hell are people like this glorified in academia? Or anywhere else for that matter?
I am afraid to think about what it's going to take to turn this all around at some point.......if ever.
| 136 |
Bobblehead Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:36:24pm |
| 137 |
de La Valette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:36:41pm |
re: #134 MandyManners
I can guarantee she would never speak at my alma mater.
| 138 |
Thor-Zone Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:36:42pm |
re: #113 yochanan
one of the reasons i can't stand northwestern, other reasons prof butz who said the holocoust did not happen, and profs who said we deserved sept 11 on sept 12, 2001
Those guys suck.....
| 139 |
Beach Lover Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:36:50pm |
re: #133 Miss Trixie
Hey Trixie! Yes, been well, and you?
| 140 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:36:52pm |
re: #134 MandyManners
Professor Dorhn has been a commencement speaker at several university graduations, including California's prestigious Pitzer College, where in 2004 she told the graduates: "During your student years here, the shredded economy and loss of jobs, the consequences of deregulation and devolution that bankrupted state and local governments, the relentless punishment and imprisoning of over two million people in America, flagrant corporate plunder and criminality, rolling blackouts, the apparently permanent war on terrorism, the shock and awe occupation of Iraq, systematic and degrading detention without trial, torture and extra-judicial assassinations, and the establishment of a crescent of new U.S. military bases across the Middle East and South Asia -- all have transformed whatever blissful illusions were harbored as you entered college."
[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]
| 141 |
Miss Trixie Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:37:02pm |
re: #134 MandyManners
Professor Dorhn has been a commencement speaker at several university graduations, including California's prestigious Pitzer College, where in 2004 she told the graduates: "During your student years here, the shredded economy and loss of jobs, the consequences of deregulation and devolution that bankrupted state and local governments, the relentless punishment and imprisoning of over two million people in America, flagrant corporate plunder and criminality, rolling blackouts, the apparently permanent war on terrorism, the shock and awe occupation of Iraq, systematic and degrading detention without trial, torture and extra-judicial assassinations, and the establishment of a crescent of new U.S. military bases across the Middle East and South Asia -- all have transformed whatever blissful illusions were harbored as you entered college."
Jebus. More mind mush.
| 142 |
loppyd Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:37:15pm |
re: #96 Miss Trixie
I'll say. My wedding was recorded for posterity with cave drawings ...
:D
I'm vey happy for you both, darls. *hug*
Thanks, love. We are both very excited....and my mother is on another planet right now. LOL
| 143 |
de La Valette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:37:23pm |
My only question is they type of treason; Copperhead or Fellow Traveler.
| 144 |
victor_yugo Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:37:35pm |
re: #127 MandyManners
Thanks!
Ruper Ordorika - Zaindu Maite Duzun Hori
Images and faces of Euskal Herria.
| 146 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:38:11pm |
| 147 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:38:12pm |
re: #134 MandyManners
Professor Dorhn has been a commencement speaker at several university graduations, including California's prestigious Pitzer College, where in 2004 she told the graduates: "During your student years here, the shredded economy and loss of jobs, the consequences of deregulation and devolution that bankrupted state and local governments, the relentless punishment and imprisoning of over two million people in America, flagrant corporate plunder and criminality, rolling blackouts, the apparently permanent war on terrorism, the shock and awe occupation of Iraq, systematic and degrading detention without trial, torture and extra-judicial assassinations, and the establishment of a crescent of new U.S. military bases across the Middle East and South Asia -- all have transformed whatever blissful illusions were harbored as you entered college."
Could you imagine having that much resentment for your country? If I were living in a country that I felt that way about, I would f*cking move.
| 148 |
FrogMarch Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:39:24pm |
re: #113 yochanan
one of the reasons i can't stand northwestern, other reasons prof butz who said the holocoust did not happen, and profs who said we deserved sept 11 on sept 12, 2001
So Northwestern is full of leftards? yuck.
| 149 |
Thor-Zone Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:39:29pm |
Here's a question.....If she was on the FBI's top 10 wanted list, what is she doing free.....not in jail?
I don't get it....
They just don't forget whatever it was you did if you make that list. They chase you until they find you......
What's going on here?
| 150 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:39:30pm |
| 151 |
EuskalHerria Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:39:55pm |
Kaixo!
Mandy Manners-
"Kaixo" means "Hello" in Euskara, the Basque language, and "Agur" means "Goodbye". "Eskerrik asko" means "Thank you", and "Ez Horregatik" means "You're welcome". Incidentally, "Euskal Herria" means "Basque Country". I am still learning the language; it is not related to Spanish or any of the other Indo-European languages in any way, and is thought to have been much more widespread in Europe in ancient times than it is presently; it is spoken in four provinces in Northern Spain and 3 in Southern France, and of course in the US where significant numbers of Basque immigrants have settled, like Idaho, Nevada, Oregon and California. A number of Basques also immigrated to Argentina and other Latin American countries. Hope all this helps!
Agur!
| 152 |
victor_yugo Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:39:59pm |
re: #147 bellamags
Could you imagine having that much resentment for your country? If I were living in a country that I felt that way about, I would f*cking move.
If she were speaking at my graduation, I'd have some very loud words for her.
| 154 |
jorline Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:40:24pm |
re: #134 MandyManners
Professor Dorhn has been a commencement speaker at several university graduations, including California's prestigious Pitzer College, where in 2004 she told the graduates: "During your student years here, the shredded economy and loss of jobs, the consequences of deregulation and devolution that bankrupted state and local governments, the relentless punishment and imprisoning of over two million people in America, flagrant corporate plunder and criminality, rolling blackouts, the apparently permanent war on terrorism, the shock and awe occupation of Iraq, systematic and degrading detention without trial, torture and extra-judicial assassinations, and the establishment of a crescent of new U.S. military bases across the Middle East and South Asia -- all have transformed whatever blissful illusions were harbored as you entered college."
Enchanting view of America from the left.
That's why my kids and my money will go to Texas A&M...no commie crap there...whoop!
//
| 155 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:40:25pm |
re: #150 MandyManners
sweet. i would have loved to been there.
| 156 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:40:27pm |
re: #144 victor_yugo
Ruper Ordorika - Zaindu Maite Duzun Hori
Images and faces of Euskal Herria.
Haven't the ETA calmed down lately?
| 157 |
Yosemite Bill Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:40:51pm |
#132 - Tigger2005
I hope we do not see a city go white hot but yes the chances are too high.
As I see it we may well have an elected government in this Republic who when faced with that sober reality may NOT RESPOND.
If the "Progressives" win in November they will surrender first and blame the US about a nano second later... .
| 158 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:41:04pm |
re: #147 bellamags
Could you imagine having that much resentment for your country? If I were living in a country that I felt that way about, I would f*cking move.
Sounds like she LIKES to be oppressed.
I wonder what her childhood was like.
| 159 |
Miss Trixie Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:41:13pm |
re: #139 Beach Lover
Hey Trixie! Yes, been well, and you?
I've been ferociously gobsmacked at work and busy with personal stuff so I haven't been able to post much but all's well and Lil Miss is still la Reine de la Maison or the Queen of the House.
I'm up late and soon for bed and thought I'd say herro. :D
What snoo with you?
| 160 |
victor_yugo Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:41:22pm |
re: #151 EuskalHerria
It's also possibly the root language behind Ogham writing. Assigning certain consonants to certain symbols results in decipherable text in Euskara.
| 161 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:41:38pm |
re: #149 Thor-Zone
Here's a question.....If she was on the FBI's top 10 wanted list, what is she doing free.....not in jail?
I don't get it....
They just don't forget whatever it was you did if you make that list. They chase you until they find you......
What's going on here?
The surveilance of them was held to be unconstitutional.
| 162 |
de La Valette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:41:43pm |
re: #147 bellamags
Not only that, but the occasion. For a lot of those families it is one of the most important days of there lives and this scum is invited to give the kids a cheerful "job-well-done" and following winds speech, WTF?
I wonder how many parents in that crowd were veterans, policeman, fireman, or god forbid republicans - who just dropped 50K.
| 166 |
loppyd Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:42:48pm |
Time for this kid to turn in.
Enjoy the rest of your evenings, Lizard Nation!
| 167 |
victor_yugo Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:42:53pm |
| 168 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:43:12pm |
re: #154 jorline
Enchanting view of America from the left.
That's why my kids and my money will go to Texas A&M...no commie crap there...whoop!
//
Good for you!
| 169 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:43:32pm |
Awwww. Here is a front paged poem by one of the koskiddies...sniff....sniff:
Our nation has been through so much
These last few thousand days.
Our battered hearts and weary souls
Look now for warming rays.
Our confidence is shattered;
Our discourse in the muck;
And so I have just one request:
Please, Obama -- please don't suck.
From Enron to the oil kings
Our country has been sold
And to the lowest bidders,
And we all have gotten rolled.
More tax cuts for the rich,
While the barons pass the buck;
It seems impossible to ask
But Obama: please don't suck.
Our soldiers in Iraq will stay
For many months, at least,
Because we thought preemptive war
Was a more docile beast.
Our diplomacy has become farce
Our policies, amok;
If you want to be in charge of it
Then Obama -- please don't suck.
It would be very simple
To let it slip away;
A pardon here, a bill, a law,
A tactical delay.
The lobbyists and crooks remain,
Always looking for a schmuck,
But we have few chances left,
So Obama:
Please
Don't
Suck.
They are the biggest losers!
| 170 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:43:35pm |
re: #155 bellamags
sweet. i would have loved to been there.
A woman can only take so much before she shouts back.
| 171 |
victor_yugo Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:43:47pm |
| 172 |
Jack of Shadows Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:43:54pm |
Here's something about Dohrn and Ayers that doesn't come as often as it should: [Link: irnnews.com...]
| 173 |
formercorpsman Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:44:04pm |
re: #158 MandyManners
Her facial expression in the photo has some distance to it.
I would have no doubt, she perhaps has a true disconnect from reality.
Enough to function, but certainly, and obviously, an element of disconnect.
| 174 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:44:15pm |
re: #160 victor_yugo
It's also possibly the root language behind Ogham writing. Assigning certain consonants to certain symbols results in decipherable text in Euskara.
Isn't Ogham Irish?
| 175 |
FrogMarch Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:44:34pm |
| 176 |
victor_yugo Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:44:37pm |
Okay, kids, my camera's battery is charged. I'm out to capture the moonrise in full-motion video.
| 177 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:44:41pm |
| 178 |
StinkHammer Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:44:42pm |
re: #120 kuffar
Only Right Wing extremists are guilty and evil. Left Wing extremists are 'freedom fighters'.
Thus the Left can justify its exclusion of political Rightists from their heralded notion of "toleration" -- they adhere to the sentiment encapsulated in a quote from that crusty old socialist Thomas Mann: "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." Hence the syllogism:
1) Evil is not to be tolerated
2) Political Rightists are evil, therefore
3) Political Rightists are not to be tolerated
Labeling is only one step in the process
| 179 |
FrogMarch Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:44:48pm |
| 180 |
Tigger2005 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:45:04pm |
Just great. First I can't get into any yahoo sites, now even though I was getting into hotmail with no problem, I can't access it either.
| 181 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:45:11pm |
re: #164 jcm
looks like the lead singer for Green Day. Doncha just want to smack the indignant look off of his face?
| 183 |
Beach Lover Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:45:38pm |
IIRC, they both came from well to do families, and had plenty of money, but no commonsense.
Obviously.
What a waste of oxygen....and these are "friends of Obama". At least they came in handy at the time he needed them. And after reading her comments, it's not hard to see a connection to the Obamas.
| 185 |
Thor-Zone Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:45:44pm |
re: #161 MandyManners
The surveilance of them was held to be unconstitutional.
Great...I feel so comforted by that.....
| 186 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:46:10pm |
| 188 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:46:54pm |
re: #182 MandyManners
Hilarious!
Please oh please don't suck obambi!
Bwahahahahah!
Front frikkin page!
| 189 |
kuffar Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:47:09pm |
Where were the Right-wing radicals of the 1960s?
| 190 |
Miss Trixie Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:47:09pm |
re: #142 loppyd
Thanks, love. We are both very excited....and my mother is on another planet right now. LOL
Hon, if you still have my email address I would love some pics of the big day. Again, congrats luv, and may you both have a long and very happy life together.
| 191 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:47:43pm |
| 192 |
livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:47:54pm |
re: #169 Typicalwhitey
Awwww. Here is a front paged poem by one of the koskiddies...sniff....sniff:
Our nation has been through so much
These last few thousand days.
Our battered hearts and weary souls
Look now for warming rays.
Our confidence is shattered;
Our discourse in the muck;
And so I have just one request:
Please, Obama -- please don't suck.From Enron to the oil kings
Our country has been sold
And to the lowest bidders,
And we all have gotten rolled.
More tax cuts for the rich,
While the barons pass the buck;
It seems impossible to ask
But Obama: please don't suck.Our soldiers in Iraq will stay
For many months, at least,
Because we thought preemptive war
Was a more docile beast.
Our diplomacy has become farce
Our policies, amok;
If you want to be in charge of it
Then Obama -- please don't suck.It would be very simple
To let it slip away;
A pardon here, a bill, a law,
A tactical delay.
The lobbyists and crooks remain,
Always looking for a schmuck,
But we have few chances left,
So Obama:
Please
Don't
Suck.They are the biggest losers!
I've got to stop laughing- the lizard-to-be is getting jostled something awful!
| 193 |
SteveC Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:47:57pm |
re: #116 Ojoe
The poster says:
"Dohrn reportedly may resist arrest, has been associated with persons who advocate e use of explosives, and may have acquired firearms. Considered dangerous."
Can you get a good enough close up to see the Known Associates section? it would be a howler to see The Last Great Hope's name there!
| 194 |
Tigger2005 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:48:08pm |
re: #189 kuffar
Where were the Right-wing radicals of the 1960s?
According to the left-wing radicals, the right-wing radicals were the "Establishment."
| 195 |
LEGION Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:48:24pm |
re: #176 victor_yugo
If you see any leftist libtards baying at the moon- beat them with a sharp stick!
| 196 |
Beach Lover Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:48:33pm |
re: #159 Miss Trixie
Still working crazy hours, but get to read the dead thread some. Miss those fun times :-)
| 197 |
StinkHammer Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:49:15pm |
re: #134 MandyManners
Professor Dorhn has been a commencement speaker at several university graduations...
Pardon the crudity, but there's no FUCKING way I'd permit my college age kid (if I had one) to attend any class or commencement featuring Bernardine Dohrn -- not on MY dime.
| 199 |
Thor-Zone Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:49:19pm |
| 200 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:49:29pm |
re: #173 formercorpsman
Her facial expression in the photo has some distance to it.
I would have no doubt, she perhaps has a true disconnect from reality.
Enough to function, but certainly, and obviously, an element of disconnect.
I reckon you gotta' disconnect to do what she did.
| 201 |
Dr. Shalit Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:49:33pm |
| 203 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:50:15pm |
| 204 |
de La Valette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:50:21pm |
| 205 |
StinkHammer Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:50:26pm |
| 206 |
livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:50:26pm |
"Dig it! Manson killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim's stomach." -- Bernardine Dohrn on the Tate/LaBianca murders, 1969.
Anybody who could view in this manner what was done to those victims should have been deported.
| 207 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:50:27pm |
re: #175 FrogMarch
Ayers has the head tilt thing down.
I'd like to smack that smirk right off his face.
| 208 |
Outrider Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:50:51pm |
re: #169 Typicalwhitey
Awwww. Here is a front paged poem by one of the koskiddies...sniff....sniff:Our nation has been through so much
These last few thousand days.
Our battered hearts and weary souls
Look now for warming rays.
Our confidence is shattered;
Our discourse in the muck;
And so I have just one request:
Please, Obama -- please don't suck.(on and on...)
They are the biggest losers!
Damn. How to break this news to the Kosling kindly? Psst. Bud. Listen close. OBAMA Sucks. Yes he does. Get over it.
| 209 |
Dr. Shalit Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:51:00pm |
re: #189 kuffar
Where were the Right-wing radicals of the 1960s?
"Kuff" -
Probably doing a "hitch" in Vietnam.
-S-
| 210 |
Miss Trixie Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:51:24pm |
re: #196 Beach Lover
Still working crazy hours, but get to read the dead thread some. Miss those fun times :-)
*sigh*
Me too. Those were the days! :D
| 211 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:51:32pm |
re: #183 Beach Lover
IIRC, they both came from well to do families, and had plenty of money, but no commonsense.
Obviously.
What a waste of oxygen....and these are "friends of Obama". At least they came in handy at the time he needed them. And after reading her comments, it's not hard to see a connection to the Obamas.
Money doesn't buy decent parenting.
| 212 |
livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:52:13pm |
re: #208 Outrider
Damn. How to break this news to the Kosling kindly? Psst. Bud. Listen close. OBAMA Sucks. Yes he does. Get over it.
Imagine what Shakespeare would have been capable of if he had had access to the word "sucks".
Snort.
| 213 |
HDrepub Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:52:15pm |
| 214 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:52:20pm |
re: #185 Thor-Zone
Great...I feel so comforted by that.....
I wonder if we'd even know BHO's name if it had been constitutional.
| 216 |
Miss Trixie Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:53:05pm |
I'm beat - see you lizards tomorrow. Try and be good ... :D
| 217 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:53:07pm |
re: #186 Typicalwhitey
No but he stands on the flag.
I cannot find my link for that photograph. Do you have it?
| 219 |
HDrepub Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:54:05pm |
| 220 |
FrogMarch Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:54:14pm |
re: #206 livefreeor die
"Dig it! Manson killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim's stomach." -- Bernardine Dohrn on the Tate/LaBianca murders, 1969.
Anybody who could view in this manner what was done to those victims should have been deported.
Now she's a professor at Northwestern and a commencement speaker and an Obama associate?
Progressive. Repulsive.
| 221 |
yochanan Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:54:46pm |
the KKK and others were around during the 60's
| 223 |
jorline Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:55:46pm |
I'm right behind you Miss Trixie...goodnight all and thanks again for another informative day.
| 224 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:56:21pm |
re: #197 StinkHammer
Pardon the crudity, but there's no FUCKING way I'd permit my college age kid (if I had one) to attend any class or commencement featuring Bernardine Dohrn -- not on MY dime.
Well, once she/he is 18, the student gets to decide.
| 226 |
Thor-Zone Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:56:48pm |
re: #189 kuffar
Where were the Right-wing radicals of the 1960s?
Too busy surfing and ridin' skateboards
| 227 |
Outrider Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:57:48pm |
| 228 |
Paul Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:58:04pm |
re: #175 FrogMarch
Ayers has the head tilt thing down.
That police mugshot was taken on 08/27/68, almost exactly forty years ago. Forty years down the road and this miserable scumbag is
a friend and confidant of a man who wants to be President.
| 229 |
Thor-Zone Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:58:17pm |
re: #203 Typicalwhitey
Actually there is a photo of him standing on our flag.
Actually, I believe that.
| 230 |
itellu3times Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:58:21pm |
OT: Ohm C2 speakers
Any old-style audiophile lizards out there? OK, Ohm C2 wasn't really audiophile, just pretty good stuff, back in the 1970s. I was just about to toss an old pair here, just for fun googled and, sumbitch, Ohm is back in business (they were out last I looked, a couple of years ago) selling replacement 10-inch bass drivers (old ones all oxidized to death around Dec 31, 1999). Looks like a pair is about $300. Anyone think that's a good repair, rather than toss and replace?
Considering I also need to toss the old and failing stereo, to replace it with a 5.1 or 7.1 home theater yada yada that's going to want four or more matched speakers anyway, and uses a sub-woofer for the good stuff nowadays anyway?
Guess I answered my own question, but hey, maybe worth doing just for the ludic joy.
| 231 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:58:27pm |
| 233 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:59:05pm |
| 234 |
MacGiolaPhadraig Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:59:14pm |
re: #154 jorline
Enchanting view of America from the left.
That's why my kids and my money will go to Texas A&M...no commie crap there...whoop!
//
Hate to bear bad tidings, but the A&M Sociology Dept., at least at the Doctoral level, has a few fellow travelers stumbling about. My wife wrote a sarcastic few lines in a paper and quoted one Karl Marx. "From each...to each..." Right over the prof's head.
| 235 |
HDrepub Sat, Aug 23, 2008 7:59:58pm |
re: #219 HDrepub
I suppose a lot of them were but not all.
Actually I posted that first one with tongue in cheek. If you belonged to any radical organizations the Armed Forces had knowledge of you were likely disqualified for military service. I remember the questionarre you had to answer asked if you belonged to any of these organizations. The Ku Klux Klan was one of them, the W.E.B. Dubois club and several others that I don't recall.
| 236 |
StinkHammer Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:00:12pm |
re: #224 MandyManners
Well, once she/he is 18, the student gets to decide.
Again -- not on MY dime. If at 18 my (hypothetical) student wants to attend any university class/speech they choose and it includes terrorists like Dohrn, I won't be underwriting their education further -- they can pay for it themselves. Their choice, yes -- but I subsequently choose not to subsidize it.
| 237 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:00:19pm |
re: #169 Typicalwhitey
How about this version?
Our nation has been through so much
These last few thousand days.
Our battered hearts and weary souls
Look now for better ways.
Our confidence is steady;
Our discourse is not grim;
So I have just one request:
Obama -- please don't win.
From Enron to the oil kings
Our country has been sold
And to the lowest bidders,
And we all have gotten gold.
More tax cuts for everyone,
While the barons pass the gin;
It seems possible to ask
But Obama: please don't win.
Our soldiers in Iraq will stay
For many months, at least,
Because we thought Saddam Hussein
Was a ferocious beast.
Our diplomacy has worked out
Our policy to win;
If we want to have control of it
Then Obama -- please don't win
It would be very simple
To let it slip away;
Always looking for a schmuck, so you can get f*cked,
Did you just pick Biden
For your VP
Now Obama you can't win.
| 238 |
de La Valette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:00:40pm |
re: #230 itellu3times
Looks like some of them are going to 300 on ebay.
| 239 |
jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:00:54pm |
re: #228 Paul
That police mugshot was taken on 08/27/68, almost exactly forty years ago. Forty years down the road and this miserable scumbag is
a friend and confidant of a man who wants to be President.
40 years and unrepentant, in fact in published interviews "wishes he could have done more." Ironically published on 9/11/01.
What do Osama and Obama have in common?
Both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.
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livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:01:20pm |
re: #237 bellamags
Much better-somehow throwing "sucks" in just shoots a ballad all to hell.
| 241 |
Bobblehead Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:01:36pm |
Great Day By Day Cartoon this evening. The Obama- Frank Davis connection needs some attention also.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:01:51pm |
re: #205 StinkHammer
"Hammer" -
I was in the "Anti" group back then, was going to school full time and working two "part-time" jobs - One with Campus Security the other with Ford Motor Company - Ford was full time hours, 3 days a week (Mon, Fri, Sat - Night Shift), Campus Security was Tue, Wed, Thu, Sun.
Working wasn't the WHOLE DIVIDE. For what it was worth, I was one of the few students "with money," by my own devices. Volunteering for the Military was another thing entirely.
-S-
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Thor-Zone Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:02:28pm |
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bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:03:39pm |
re: #240 livefreeor die
It did give it a more "juvenile" feel.
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Clioman Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:04:01pm |
Unlike The One's birth certificate, this document appears to be authentic.
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livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:04:36pm |
re: #244 bellamags
I bet all the Kozkidz are showering their new "poet laureate" with praise as we speak.
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EuskalHerria Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:04:52pm |
Kaixo!
Note: ETA is NOT supported by more than a small percentage of the Basque population. Those terrorists who belong to that scurrilous organization are a disgrace, and I know of no Basques who support them. They are nothing but self-absorbed anarchists who don't care about anyone but themselves.
Agur!
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Thor-Zone Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:05:02pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:05:27pm |
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bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:06:49pm |
re: #250 MandyManners
I'm going to print it out and slip it under the door to the dem headquarters next door.
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StinkHammer Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:06:53pm |
re: #242 Dr. Shalit
Working wasn't the WHOLE DIVIDE....
Well, I was attempting to be a bit cheeky. I seem to recall a statement by Nixon (I believe) who, when asked about the difference between college prospects for liberal and conservative students, replied that liberal kids went into journalism, conservative kids went into business. I was (loosely) riffing on that.
Also, I've heard guys like Limbaugh state that they couldn't engage in rightist activities like the leftists radicals could at that time because they were too busy working.
For what it's worth....
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PSGInfinity Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:07:31pm |
re: #110 jcm
The Olympics men's marathon just went through Tiananmen Square.
It's only been 19 years.....
Such short memories we have.
The sick bastards probably had a smile on their face when they planned that part of the route...
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stevieray Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:09:49pm |
re: #230 itellu3times
I think I remember them! Do they have an inverted dome tweeter? Cool for the nostalgic value, but probably won't sound too good... even with a woofer replacement.
Fix 'em anyway, and get a tube amp too!
| 257 |
jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:10:53pm |
re: #254 PSGInfinity
The sick bastards probably had a smile on their face when they planned that part of the route...
I was sick when it the games where given to China.
Reagan showed the way to bury communist regimes. He was giving speeches on how to do it as far back as '57. He put it practice it worked.
But we never seem to learn.
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de La Valette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:11:09pm |
re: #254 PSGInfinity
I would have run thru with my left arm extended - like the guy in front of the tank.
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Hard Right Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:13:16pm |
re: #147 bellamags
Could you imagine having that much resentment for your country? If I were living in a country that I felt that way about, I would f*cking move.
She won't. She makes too much money. Tells you what she is really all about.
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Colonel Panik Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:13:29pm |
re: #174 MandyManners
Isn't Ogham Irish?
Mandy,
It's thought that the people who lived in Ireland prior to the arrival of the Celts may have been related to the Basques. Hence the connection between Euzkadi and Ogham.
One of those things that is lost in the mists of time.
The people of another northern Spanish province have connections to the Celtic world as well. Similar ancient architecture to what is found in Ireland, England, Scotland and Brittany. They also play the bagpipes.
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Bobblehead Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:14:20pm |
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Tigger2005 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:15:00pm |
re: #257 jcm
I was sick when it the games where given to China.
Reagan showed the way to bury communist regimes. He was giving speeches on how to do it as far back as '57. He put it practice it worked.
But we never seem to learn.
I used to love the Olympics, and I'm proud of our athletes this year, but I haven't been able to watch them. I just can't bring myself to care enough. China does not deserve these Games, nor does Russia deserve the Games in 2014. It doesn't seem like tying these fascist regimes into the global economy and community is doing a damn bit of good.
| 265 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:15:15pm |
re#260...it's Galicia. Carlos Nunez is a famous Galician piper who plays with a lot of Irish and Scottish bands, such as the Chieftains.
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bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:16:08pm |
re: #262 Bobblehead
did you see the year? 2001? Did this pic come out the same time the article he did when he said "they should have done more"?
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Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:16:41pm |
re: #237 bellamags
How about this version?
Our nation has been through so much
These last few thousand days.
Our battered hearts and weary souls
Look now for better ways.
Our confidence is steady;
Our discourse is not grim;
So I have just one request:
Obama -- please don't win.From Enron to the oil kings
Our country has been sold
And to the lowest bidders,
And we all have gotten gold.
More tax cuts for everyone,
While the barons pass the gin;
It seems possible to ask
But Obama: please don't win.Our soldiers in Iraq will stay
For many months, at least,
Because we thought Saddam Hussein
Was a ferocious beast.
Our diplomacy has worked out
Our policy to win;
If we want to have control of it
Then Obama -- please don't winIt would be very simple
To let it slip away;
Always looking for a schmuck, so you can get f*cked,
Did you just pick Biden
For your VP
Now Obama you can't win.
Now that was good!
| 269 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:16:51pm |
re: #267 bellamags
did you see the year? 2001? Did this pic come out the same time the article he did when he said "they should have done more"?
I believe so. The one that ran in the New York Review of Books on the morning of September 11th.
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Russkilitlover Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:17:16pm |
re: #20 loppyd
Hey there!
Busy enjoying summer and work has been off the hook.
Funny you should ask about those wedding bells....I have some new jewelry on my left hand. :~)
Woo Hoo! Can you stop staring at it? Huge congrats!
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:18:18pm |
re: #230 itellu3times
OT: Ohm C2 speakers
Any old-style audiophile lizards out there? OK, Ohm C2 wasn't really audiophile, just pretty good stuff, back in the 1970s. I was just about to toss an old pair here, just for fun googled and, sumbitch, Ohm is back in business (they were out last I looked, a couple of years ago) selling replacement 10-inch bass drivers (old ones all oxidized to death around Dec 31, 1999). Looks like a pair is about $300. Anyone think that's a good repair, rather than toss and replace?
Considering I also need to toss the old and failing stereo, to replace it with a 5.1 or 7.1 home theater yada yada that's going to want four or more matched speakers anyway, and uses a sub-woofer for the good stuff nowadays anyway?
Guess I answered my own question, but hey, maybe worth doing just for the ludic joy.
"itu3t" -
$300 to repair sounds a bit steep. Makes me feel better that the repair for my ADVENT Towers (New Speaker to Speaker Frame Membranes) is about $30 plus tax, shipping and my labor. If you are a real Audiophile and have the money, buy a 5,6 or 7.1 receiver of your choice and a set of matched speakers of your choice - AND - rejoice, the FM Section of whatever you buy is probably the equal or better of the Sequerra 1 FM tuner - $2,499 in early 1970's dollars, the Amp is probably cleaner, and a $25-30 DVD Player, playing CD's kicks the living POOP out of most 1970's Turntables. If you are committed to Two Channel Reproduction, be advised that Pioneer has come back with the "SX" Series, from what I have heard - Good Amp - Mediocre Tuner. Hope this helps.
-S-
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The Shadow Do Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:18:37pm |
A candidate for the President of the United States shouldering up with the likes of Dohrn, Ayers.
Astonishing really.
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Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:19:29pm |
re: #272 The Shadow Do
A candidate for the President of the United States shouldering up with the likes of Dohrn, Ayers.
Astonishing really.
And not even embarrassed by it.
If a Republican was his friend, you can bet the MSM would crucify him.
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Mosse Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:20:00pm |
re: #119 Thor-Zone Yes. Dilettantes, too. "Racial reconciliation, on the cheap" was the latte solution for the "aware." It's ok. We've beat 'em.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:21:20pm |
re: #258 de La Valette
I would have run thru with my left arm extended - like the guy in front of the tank.
Asking the runners to stop for a few seconds, at the closest point to that spot, and imitate the gesture would've been really cool.
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bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:21:45pm |
re: #269 Colonel Panik
Thats all they need to do is show the article, zoomed in on the date (some creepy Tool soundtrack in the background) and slowly pan out to show the photo of him desecrating the flag, then fade to Obamessiah saying they are "friendly". thats it.
| 277 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:21:57pm |
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jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:22:30pm |
re: #273 Typicalwhitey
And not even embarrassed by it.
If a Republican was his friend, you can bet the MSM would crucify him.
Look what they did to Lott for saying nice things about Thrumond.
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Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:23:00pm |
re: #276 bellamags
Thats all they need to do is show the article, zoomed in on the date (some creepy Tool soundtrack in the background) and slowly pan out to show the photo of him desecrating the flag, then fade to Obamessiah saying they are "friendly". thats it.
Closing with a picture of the two of them together, laughing would be even better, with the "we are friends" quote over the picture.
| 280 |
Dr. Shalit Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:23:27pm |
re: #252 StinkHammer
Well, I was attempting to be a bit cheeky. I seem to recall a statement by Nixon (I believe) who, when asked about the difference between college prospects for liberal and conservative students, replied that liberal kids went into journalism, conservative kids went into business. I was (loosely) riffing on that.
Also, I've heard guys like Limbaugh state that they couldn't engage in rightist activities like the leftists radicals could at that time because they were too busy working.
For what it's worth....
"Hammer" -
I was younger and stronger then - stupider as well. Got everything done, though working DID cut into my then Left political work. Probably saved my butt as well from having to live a life on "the lam" like Bill Ayres.
-S-
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PSGInfinity Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:23:34pm |
re: #257 jcm
I was sick when it the games where given to China. Reagan showed the way to bury communist regimes. He was giving speeches on how to do it as far back as '57. He put it practice it worked. But we never seem to learn.
Problem is, we're fighting a cold civil war with those who would dump Reagan - and all other decent people - into the mass grave of history.
| 282 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:23:57pm |
re: #278 jcm
Look what they did to Lott for saying nice things about Thrumond.
Exactly.
BTW on my link on post 277, McCain is releasing the ad at 3am.
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vero Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:24:09pm |
I am guessing after seeing this FBI Most Wanted poster, Michelle Obama is now, really, really really proud of her country.
New Democrat motto: "All your bombers are belong to us"
| 285 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:24:39pm |
Hey all y'all - late to the party again and don't know if anyone has mentioned this before, but:
Dohrn has been suspected of involvement in a February 16, 1970, bombing of the Park Police Station in San Francisco, which kllled a police officer and partially blinded another, who was forced to retire on a disability.[11] At the time, Dohrn was said to be living with a Weatherman cell in a houseboat in Sausalito, California, unnamed law enforcement sources later told KRON-TV.[12] An investigation into the case was reopened in 1999,[11] and a San Francisco grand jury looked into the incident, but no indictments followed,[12] and no one was ever arrested for the bombing.[11] An FBI informant, Larry Grathwohl, who successfully penetrated the organization from the late summer of 1969 until April 1970, later testified to a U.S. Senate subcommittee that Bill Ayers, then a high-ranking member of the organization and a member of its Central Committee (but not then Dohrn's husband), had said Dohrn constructed and planted the bomb. Grathwohl testified that Ayers had told him specifically where the bomb was placed (on a window ledge) and what kind of shrapnel was put in it. Grathwohl said Ayers was emphatic, leading Grathwohl to believe Ayers either was present at some point during the operation or had heard about it from someone who was there.[13] In a book about his experiences published in 1976, Grathwohl wrote that Ayers, who had recently attended a meeting of the group's Central Committee, said Dohrn had planned the operation, made the bomb and placed it herself.[14] In 2008, Grathwohl's testimony was quoted by David Freddoso in his book The Case Against Barack Obama. "Ayers and Dohrn escaped prosecution only because of government misconduct in collecting evidence against them", Freddoso wrote.[13]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Neither she nor Billy Ayers were simply student radicals; they each placed bombs in building and as cited above, there is reason to believe that she in fact placed a bomb that resulted in one murder.
Nice friends ya got there Obama.
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Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:24:53pm |
And so many people thought that McCain would not attack the messiah LOL
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Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:26:05pm |
re: #285 realwest
And real the only way they got out of being prosecuted was by a technicality.
Otherwise they might still be in prison.
But hey, that was so long ago according to obambi.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:26:19pm |
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The Shadow Do Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:26:25pm |
re: #273 Typicalwhitey
And not even embarrassed by it.
If a Republican was his friend, you can bet the MSM would crucify him.
Kind of scary to know that I have so completely lost touch that I cannot comprehend a candidacy like this. Is the candidate to slick that the folks don't recognize the ideology, or is it that the ideology has become that widely accepted?
| 292 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:26:55pm |
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realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:27:01pm |
re: #288 Dustoff-507
Good evening my friend. I'm doing ok, though trying to understand why the top and left side margins of the comment box are now a thin green line.
How are you doing?
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livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:27:14pm |
re: #286 Typicalwhitey
And so many people thought that McCain would not attack the messiah LOL
Well, he (Obama) just makes it all too easy. Who could resist?
| 296 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:28:14pm |
re: #290 Dr. Shalit
Yep,,,,, Obama just pissed off many.
Yet I wonder, where is Bill. Hiding I bet... LOL
| 297 |
livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:28:26pm |
| 298 |
Ojoe Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:28:29pm |
McCain can handle the 3 AM phone call.
With Obama you get a 3 AM text message.
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jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:28:52pm |
re: #281 PSGInfinity
Problem is, we're fighting a cold civil war with those who would dump Reagan - and all other decent people - into the mass grave of history.
When Zinn's a People's History is a popular text in high schools, it a tough fight just correcting the record.
| 301 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:29:01pm |
re: #289 Typicalwhitey
Na, they really got off because they were tried in San Francisco.
They are each about a year or two older than I am, but I'd still like to meet both of 'em in an alley some where. Bombs like those are used by cowards, pure and simple.
| 302 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:29:15pm |
| 303 |
Jed 1899 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:29:34pm |
Barack's village called.
They're missing their idiot.
| 304 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:29:43pm |
re: #300 jcm
DUDE, how in hell is watching the kids? 0-:
| 305 |
Bobibutu Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:29:44pm |
Gee - did Biden ever vet Obama before accepting? Guess not.
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livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:30:23pm |
re: #303 Jed 1899
Barack's village called.
They're missing their idiot.
That's strange-so is Wilmington, Delaware.
| 308 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:30:36pm |
re: #291 The Shadow Do
Kind of scary to know that I have so completely lost touch that I cannot comprehend a candidacy like this. Is the candidate to slick that the folks don't recognize the ideology, or is it that the ideology has become that widely accepted?
I think the younger Obama supporters simply haven't lived long enough to realize what the hell he stands for and the older supporters either haven't socially or intellectually developed over the age of 15. I have personally witnessed this for the past two months by watching a parade of Obama supporters visit the local Dem headquarters.
| 309 |
de La Valette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:30:58pm |
re: #285 realwest
I wonder if the families involved in the bombings have been contacted for an on camera interview. I doubt the campaign will do it - but someone might?
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mich-again Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:31:32pm |
Ha. From Obama's own blog..
Now we are in a mess, big mistake not picking Hillary......with her you could have won the presidency, now looks like McCain has it made in the shade.
Maybe Hillary will win next week...... GO HILLARY!
| 312 |
Bobibutu Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:31:57pm |
re: #309 de La Valette
I wonder if the families involved in the bombings have been contacted for an on camera interview. I doubt the campaign will do it - but someone might?
Brilliant!
| 313 |
EuskalHerria Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:32:15pm |
Kaixo!
Mandy Manners and all you others who wonder where the Basque language originated: The most common hypothesis is that it originated "in situ", as an ancient language long predating the Indo-European languages such as the Romance languages, Germanic languages, the Slavic languages, Greek, Celtic languages, the Indic languages, Iranian, Armenian, etc. The Basques have the best explanation! It is the pure Adamic language! Legend has it that Satan came to the Basque country to convert the Basques; after some length of time they got mad at him and drove him out from among them. he tripped and fell, and forgot the only two words he had learned, "bai" (yes) and "ez" (no). (they use this tale to describe the difficulty of learning Euskara, or Basque)
Agur!
| 314 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:32:24pm |
re: #311 mich-again
Your so right..... not picking her was SO wrong
| 315 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:32:38pm |
re: #310 Dustoff-507
I was once as well, however, I didn't care about politics.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:33:22pm |
re: #308 bellamags
I think the younger Obama supporters simply haven't lived long enough to realize what the hell he stands for and the older supporters either haven't socially or intellectually developed over the age of 15. I have personally witnessed this for the past two months by watching a parade of Obama supporters visit the local Dem headquarters.
Thanks, thought I was going nuts. Though that remains a possibility.
| 317 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:33:24pm |
re: #301 realwest
Na, they really got off because they were tried in San Francisco.
They are each about a year or two older than I am, but I'd still like to meet both of 'em in an alley some where. Bombs like those are used by cowards, pure and simple.
I know about cowards setting bombs.
They are no better than the cowards who set the roadside bomb that killed my nephew in Iraq.
If I ever saw either one of them, I would spit on them, the worst insult I can think of.
| 318 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:33:49pm |
re: #315 bellamags
I have since I went to Nam like Realwest... You grow up quick!
| 319 |
livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:34:10pm |
re: #317 Typicalwhitey
I know about cowards setting bombs.
They are no better than the cowards who set the roadside bomb that killed my nephew in Iraq.If I ever saw either one of them, I would spit on them, the worst insult I can think of.
I had no idea. I am so, so sorry for your loss.
| 320 |
jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:34:23pm |
re: #304 Dustoff-507
DUDE, how in hell is watching the kids? 0-:
It been a FUN evening. Oldest comes into the kitchen as I'm fixing dinner says "my stomach hurts" and hurls on the kitchen floor. Next oldest waits 10 minutes before adding to the fun. Little girl was happily eating, then eurpts, and keeps erupting, didn't think so much could fit in a little body.
Everything cleaned up, girls in bed, sitting on the couch with the boys.
| 321 |
Attaboid Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:34:44pm |
All this attention is probably firing up her old habits.
/careful
| 322 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:34:45pm |
re: #298 Ojoe
Hey Ojoe - yeah, and you get the text message AFTER the MSM has broadcast it's contents all over the world.
But hey, kids, thanks for those private numbers and your credit card numbers!
| 324 |
pegcity Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:35:41pm |
i think im gonna clean up come november, i bet about 5 people 50 bucks each Obummer would get destoryed.
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Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:35:45pm |
re: #320 jcm
LOL................ HAHAHA, Need a medic. That is , if I can stop laughing. (-:
| 326 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:35:52pm |
re: #314 Dustoff-507
Your so right..... not picking her was SO wrong
I have to say, I do not like Hillarys politics.
I don't even like her personally.
BUT if she had been a man and had 18 million votes I honestly believe they would have been obambi's pick.
I have a personal woman friend who has always voted dem.
She's pulling the lever for McCain because she is so pissed off at what she she's is a total diss of Hillary.
The moron should have at least PRETENDED to vet her.
| 327 |
Dr. Shalit Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:35:52pm |
re: #296 Dustoff-507
Yep,,,,, Obama just pissed off many.
Yet I wonder, where is Bill. Hiding I bet... LOL
"Dusty" -
Last I saw (Babalublog.com) - Ayres was in Latin America in a three man conference under the obligatory picture of "El Che."
-S-
| 328 |
mich-again Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:36:10pm |
re: #314 Dustoff-507
By the way, that same post appears 20 consecutive times there.
| 330 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:36:36pm |
re: #302 Dustoff-507
My computer is fine, except for those stupid green lines - which disappear after I post something - they are visible as I type this and Mom's doing ok, thanks!
Glad you had dinner with your kids - didja have a good time?
| 331 |
Karridine Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:36:41pm |
"... Obama, please don't suck!
Obama, please don't - huh?
BIDEN? What the Fletch?
-SUCK!"
*****
"Welcome to Denver, to Obamanation beyond your wildest, pipe-filled, flower-top fever dreams! 2008, We Can't Wait! We ARE the people we've been waiting for, and WE SUCK BIGTIME!"
| 332 |
de La Valette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:37:06pm |
re: #327 Dr. Shalit
How the hell did Ayers get a passport and why did we let him back in.
| 333 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:37:07pm |
re: #326 Typicalwhitey
I so agree. I hate her, but leaving her out .............. was stupid!
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Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:37:26pm |
re: #319 livefreeor die
I had no idea. I am so, so sorry for your loss.
Thanks.
He wrote home that he was there so his son would not have to go later and finish the job.
He felt he was protecting us and I believe he was.
| 335 |
pegcity Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:37:37pm |
re: #331 Karridine
"... Obama, please don't suck!
Obama, please don't - huh?
BIDEN? What the Fletch?-SUCK!"
*****
do you think they have the conspiracy worked out already to explain how they lost yet another election?
| 336 |
Ojoe Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:37:41pm |
re: #332 de La Valette
maybe he could do worse damage in another country
| 337 |
livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:37:56pm |
re: #331 Karridine
"... Obama, please don't suck!
Obama, please don't - huh?
BIDEN? What the Fletch?-SUCK!"
*****
Anybody want to predict which familiar faces from Zombie's protest threads will in Denver?
I bet the "Boobs not bombs" crowd will be there, screeching about Hillary.
| 338 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:37:59pm |
| 339 |
de La Valette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:38:10pm |
re: #331 Karridine
I read somewhere that there has been a request to lift the marijuana possession statutes for duration of the convention.
| 341 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:38:45pm |
re: #309 de La Valette
Now THAT is an excellent idea - except of course that she was never convicted of those crimes. Still and all, a nice long expose on the SDS Weather Underground would make an interesting documentary!
| 342 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:39:02pm |
re: #330 realwest
GREAT time. My daughter in law is becoming a nurse... LOL
IN the family!
| 343 |
livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:39:18pm |
re: #334 Typicalwhitey
Thanks.
He wrote home that he was there so his son would not have to go later and finish the job.
He felt he was protecting us and I believe he was.
He was protecting ALL of us. Thank you and condolences to your family.
| 344 |
jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:39:22pm |
re: #325 Dustoff-507
LOL................ HAHAHA, Need a medic. That is , if I can stop laughing. (-:
Laugh it up! Chuckle head.
*glare*
I hate to say I was cracking up when the girl was hurling, it just kept coming and coming an coming. I felt sorry for her but it was a pretty impressive performance.
| 345 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:39:23pm |
re: #318 Dustoff-507
Thanks for your service. My dad was in Vietnam for a few years. In the Marines. He was the 50 cal. machine gun guy at the door of the helicopters. Not sure what his official title was. He is kinda quiet about it. Very proud about his service but will talk about it only when we ask him to. One thing that he told me that creeped me out was (he was only 19 at the time) the enemy used to do PCP before they attacked and would keep coming after they were shot in the chest or other areas. He said the only way to keep them from advancing was to shoot them in the knees, take the knees out so they couldn't walk. To do something like that at age 19 I bet you do grow up fast..
| 346 |
inquisitive Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:39:24pm |
Just dropped in to get my daily(evening) dose of LGF....How is everyone?
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:39:38pm |
re: #332 de La Valette
How the hell did Ayers get a passport and why did we let him back in.
"dLV" -
No Clue, suspect he can do it in his position as an "Educator." Many Fidel acolytes have been able to go to Cuba that way.
-S-
| 349 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:39:42pm |
re: #338 Dustoff-507
Dusty? what I have sawdust in my hair... (-:
Where is BILL!
You can bet they are working the super delegates like hookers at a Shriners convention!
| 350 |
Capitalist Tool Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:40:12pm |
re: #335 pegcity
do you think they have the conspiracy worked out already to explain how they lost yet another election?
that's a no- brainer...
/ RACIST
| 351 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:40:35pm |
re: #344 jcm
SIR.................. Your so bad. Yet I so understand. LOL
/going to my corner now.... before JCM beats me
| 352 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:40:36pm |
re: #311 mich-again
Hey Mich! How are you? Didja notice that that was put up this morning and there are NO comments to that statement?
| 353 |
de La Valette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:40:45pm |
re: #336 Ojoe
There are quite a few retired vets living in Central America who love to meet him in a dingy, lawless Venezuelan bar.
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livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:40:59pm |
re: #349 Typicalwhitey
You can bet they are working the super delegates like hookers at a Shriners convention!
At least that's what Bill told Hillary he was doing. "I'm just visiting them all personally to get them to vote for you, Honey."
| 356 |
pegcity Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:41:00pm |
re: #345 bellamags
similar to Somalia where the fighters were all high on Khat, or world war 2 were the japanese were amped up on amphetemines
| 357 |
Proud to be American Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:41:02pm |
re: #291 The Shadow Do
I think it's that the sheeple buy whatever the MSM tells them, and of course the MSM doesn't even mention things like this. Just hope and change, hope, change ad nauseum.
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Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:41:05pm |
re: #343 livefreeor die
Thanks.
That is why I hate bombers so much.
It is such a cowardly thing to do.
One of the reasons I hate obambi is because he associates with people who hate our country.
And my nephew is one of those who gave him that right.
Ugh.
| 359 |
jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:41:33pm |
re: #339 de La Valette
I read somewhere that there has been a request to lift the marijuana possession statutes for duration of the convention.
You don't expect the (D)'s to nominate Obambi stone cold sober do you?
| 360 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:41:33pm |
re: #349 Typicalwhitey
WOW they are there? I'm going... wish to join.... Us OLD men ya know!
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Honorary Yooper Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:41:54pm |
re: #339 de La Valette
I read somewhere that there has been a request to lift the marijuana possession statutes for duration of the convention.
Is that so the DUmmies and the Kos Kiddies can attend the convention without fear?
| 362 |
Tigger2005 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:41:58pm |
re: #291 The Shadow Do
Kind of scary to know that I have so completely lost touch that I cannot comprehend a candidacy like this. Is the candidate to slick that the folks don't recognize the ideology, or is it that the ideology has become that widely accepted?
Mid-20's guy I work with just adores Obama. He doesn't care that Obama has radical positions because "I'm pretty radical myself." Breaking through to him is hopeless, as far as I can tell. He simply does not share the same fundamental assumptions that I do. I might as well beat my head against a brick wall.
| 364 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:42:22pm |
re: #353 de La Valette
Hmmm I there? I can shoot, but better at medical
| 365 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:42:50pm |
re: #317 Typicalwhitey
Gee, I'm really sorry to hear about your nephew. My most sincere condolences.
But, with all due respect, spitting on them is the very least they deserve.
| 366 |
jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:42:53pm |
re: #351 Dustoff-507
SIR.................. Your so bad. Yet I so understand. LOL
/going to my corner now.... before JCM beats me
That's me, the boys want band-aids for every little bump....
I say no band-aids without spurting blood!
| 367 |
pegcity Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:43:10pm |
re: #362 Tigger2005
maybe you should beat his, might work better, or at least feel good
| 368 |
Outrider Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:43:22pm |
re: #335 pegcity
do you think they have the conspiracy worked out already to explain how they lost yet another election?
Thats probably why Biden was brought in. He will be blamed. Old school, beltway establishment, older white guy. Obama is clear with the DNC as is Clinton for the next run. They knew this one was about shot because of inexperience.
| 369 |
stanlef Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:43:37pm |
re: #230 itellu3times
Radio Shack sells replacement speakers for about $30 a set
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:43:38pm |
re: #338 Dustoff-507
Dusty? what I have sawdust in my hair... (-:
Where is BILL!
OK Let's Try Again -
Dustoff - 507 -
Thought you were talking about BILL AYRES, not BILL CLINTON.
-S-
| 371 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:43:51pm |
re: #347 Reno911
Hey reno - you and i are close geographically, remember?
| 372 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:44:01pm |
re: #318 Dustoff-507
I have since I went to Nam like Realwest... You grow up quick!
Or you don't grow up.
| 373 |
nightintheruts Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:44:06pm |
oh...about Tinnamen (sp) Square...
didn't you hear?
the guy in front of the tank was Barack's uncle.
or was it the guy in the tank?
I forget but Barack stated this so it is so....
| 374 |
Ojoe Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:44:16pm |
re: #362 Tigger2005
The Obama-left types have a fundamentally different "view" of human nature than most people have.
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Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:44:17pm |
re: #345 bellamags
Ahhhh sorry never saw a 50 in the door of a Huey, BUT leave to the Marines to change things! (-:
He still with us?
| 376 |
Capitalist Tool Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:44:24pm |
re: #345 bellamags
That's pretty much right.
You see, awareness/mobility goes on for maybe ten seconds even after you blow the heart out of a target, so to speak, and a lot can happen in those ten seconds.
The legs are the last to get the word that it's all over, so best to make them stop.
Head shots work.
| 377 |
jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:44:33pm |
re: #369 stanlef
Radio Shack sells replacement speakers for about $30 a set
And tin cans on a string sound better.
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Reno911 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:44:34pm |
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mich-again Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:44:41pm |
re: #352 realwest
Hey Mich! How are you? Didja notice that that was put up this morning and there are NO comments to that statement?
No comments and no clean up job yet either. Obama's blog staff doesn't work weekends.
| 380 |
pegcity Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:44:47pm |
re: #368 Outrider
i think the msm bullshit train has reached the end of its ability to prop this fool up anymore.
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Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:44:57pm |
re: #365 realwest
Gee, I'm really sorry to hear about your nephew. My most sincere condolences.
But, with all due respect, spitting on them is the very least they deserve.
Thanks real.
As a woman I guess that is the greatest physical insult I could think of lol.
Although as a country girl, I am pretty sure I could kick ayers wife's ass.
| 383 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:44:59pm |
re: #300 jcm
When Zinn's a People's History is a popular text in high schools, it a tough fight just correcting the record.
Which is what I find so frustrating with Charles's obsession with ID. I'm not a big fan of ID but I think the leftist takeover of American History curricula is a far greater danger to the educational system and the health of our Republic and far more in need of being exposed at this point in time.
There are a lot of people banging the drum about Creationists. The creeping Gramscianism in History, Sociology and Psychology is a bigger problem, IMHO.
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wright1 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:45:15pm |
Watching all of the News outlets today, other than Fox, the MSM is prepared to embrace Biden as part of the Obama Fellowship despite the fact that the man is an idiot. No surprises here, but McCain has his work cut out for him to start nailing Biden. The dossier is quite large but the media will care less. Suddenly, the intervention of Sean Hannity an others like him doing the media's job becomes pivotal.
There is a plethora of damning evidence against both of these fools from Ayers to Farrakhan to Rezko and for Biden his history is overflowing with incredibly dumb statements like trashing Petraeus...
We are in the homestretch, McCain winning this turns solely on his getting a decent amount of coverage exposing his opponents.
| 386 |
Karridine Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:45:51pm |
re: #335 pegcity
do you think they have the conspiracy worked out already to explain how they lost yet another election?
Peg, I know in my poor, twisted, black little heart that, sho'nuff, SOME of them are cooking up a Tattered Parachute, to cushion their Fall In the Fall!
Can you hear them now?
"Karen, do NOT use THAT tone of voice with me, I WANTED Hillary, but no, you had to go and-""Stop it, both of you! We need some way out of this 'Jugs-n-Plugs' nightmare, so either lead, follow or get the hell-"
"Yeah, Kathy, I DID want Obama as the One to make America FEEL Good once again, but your Hillary went and-"
"Stick a SOCK IN IT, you two! Now think! We could blame the MSM for over-protecting Obama, couldn't we?"
*Ping!*
"You're a genius! You're new here, Old Man.... what did you say your name is?"
"Just call me Karl... or KR, for short!"
| 387 |
Ojoe Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:46:24pm |
re: #380 pegcity
Watch them turn on him so he won't take them down with him.
| 388 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:46:42pm |
re: #370 Dr. Shalit
HAHAH try Clinton... I just bet Hillary is beating him up.
| 389 |
livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:46:52pm |
re: #387 Ojoe
Watch them turn on him so he won't take them down with him.
Yep, if he loses, he's going under his own bus.
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Tigger2005 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:46:56pm |
re: #367 pegcity
maybe you should beat his, might work better, or at least feel good
Thing is, we have a lot in common. We're both geeks, sci-fi fantsy fans, have a similar snarky sense of humor, and so on. But his worldview is just utterly different from mine in certain basic ways. Nothing I say has any impact on him whatsoever.
| 391 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:47:01pm |
re: #326 Typicalwhitey
I certainly agree with you, but I also have to tell you that while Hillary is all about POWER for her, at the least she doesn't hate or disrespect America.
Can't say the same for Senator or Mrs. Obama.
That the Democrat Party nominated this anti-American pos speaks VOLUMES about the Democrat party.
| 392 |
Dr. Shalit Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:47:18pm |
re: #377 jcm
And tin cans on a string sound better.
"jcm" -
Likely true on the speakers - Got a great deal from the "Shack" though on a Shure Replacement Stylus - $2 plus tax to get it out of their inventory.
-S-
| 394 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:47:36pm |
re: #375 Dustoff-507
Yeah. The helicopters were called Hueys. I always thought that was funny. I have a couple of black and white pics of the Vietnam rainforests from the door of the Hueys with the machine gun sites in the picture frame. Kinda cool.
| 395 |
pegcity Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:47:53pm |
re: #387 Ojoe
that is my prediction. they will eat him alive once its clear he can't win.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:47:56pm |
re: #300 jcm
We may need to write a "here's what they hid from you in school" series for our young-uns. Math, History, critical thinking, Logic, ...
| 397 |
slokat Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:48:36pm |
How are the far left followers of the anointed One going to like that ol Plugs created the Drug Czar & the anti-Rave laws?
| 398 |
jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:48:42pm |
re: #392 Dr. Shalit
"jcm" -
Likely true on the speakers - Got a great deal from the "Shack" though on a Shure Replacement Stylus - $2 plus tax to get it out of their inventory.
-S-
Stuff like that is getting harder to find all the time.
| 399 |
mich-again Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:48:44pm |
Another funny blog post from Obama's site, but this one was from a few days ago, imploring Obama to pick Hillary. But like Carole King said, Its too late baby now, its too late.. Hillary for VP
Barack, I love you. I understand what you say and why you say it. But that alone is not going to win this election. The Rovian machine is going to walk all over you and we are going to end up with a minimum of 4 more years of GOP hell.We cannot afford that! For the love of all that is American, please pick Hillary! And then let's launch a massive offensive at McCain and the Rovian death machine!
Rovian death machine? Drink!
| 400 |
Karridine Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:48:45pm |
re: #339 de La Valette
I read somewhere that there has been a request to lift the marijuana possession statutes for duration of the convention.
The 'Reality-Challenged Youth for Obama' have, indeed, tried to get a Special Police Dispensation for Reality-Disrupting Substance Possession, for a while, de La Valette...
| 401 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:48:52pm |
re: #391 realwest
I certainly agree with you, but I also have to tell you that while Hillary is all about POWER for her, at the least she doesn't hate or disrespect America.
Can't say the same for Senator or Mrs. Obama.That the Democrat Party nominated this anti-American pos speaks VOLUMES about the Democrat party.
Agreed.
I think obambi's wife is a bigger hater than the O
I also think it will have a little payback whitey in the administration.
Hows about a domestic terrorist getting to stay in the White House?
| 402 |
yesandno Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:48:57pm |
Well....
Have managed to stay away from the news most of the day....so I have avoided the probable gushing about the new Veep candidate. If it is anything similar to the small amount I have seen on the Internet, it would only make me sick anyway. They are spinning so quickly now that T. Boone Pickens won't need a wind farm...he can gather up all the pundits and let them explain away how Biden got selected...that alone will produce an over abundance of hot air....what a hoot.
Can't wait to hear Glenn and Rush on all of this Monday........
| 403 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:49:38pm |
re: #393 jcm
Thanks.................... I can't say anymore than that!
I have many friends on that wall, same as Real west and TFK.
I'll "never " forget them. (-:
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Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:49:51pm |
re: #397 slokat
How are the far left followers of the anointed One going to like that ol Plugs created the Drug Czar & the anti-Rave laws?
The koskiddies are on board.
KOS however is not.
And they are skewering him for it.
| 405 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:49:56pm |
re: #378 Reno911
aaaaammmm. We got hammered. Here are some pics. (go towards the bottom of the web page and there are some pics of our damage)
| 406 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:50:28pm |
re: #342 Dustoff-507
I actually think that's a wonderful thing for your daughter in law to do - and you know how much and why I respect you so; I'm glad the "family business" will be carried on for another generation!
| 407 |
jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:50:33pm |
re: #396 PSGInfinity
We may need to write a "here's what they hid from you in school" series for our young-uns. Math, History, critical thinking, Logic, ...
Bill Bennett's history books are a start.
America: The Last Best Hope Volumes I & II
| 408 |
Dr. Shalit Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:50:53pm |
re: #398 jcm
Stuff like that is getting harder to find all the time.
jcm -
It was 6 years ago - luckily, I am a light user on the "TT."
-S-
| 409 |
livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:51:38pm |
re: #358 Typicalwhitey
Thanks.
That is why I hate bombers so much.It is such a cowardly thing to do.
One of the reasons I hate obambi is because he associates with people who hate our country.And my nephew is one of those who gave him that right.
Ugh.
They are a cowardly, useless waste of carbon. And for people like Ayers and Dohrn to be walking around, free as birds, never making amends for contributing to evil is a disgrace.
| 410 |
Karridine Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:51:38pm |
re: #403 Dustoff-507
Thanks.................... I can't say anymore than that!I have many friends on that wall, same as Real west and TFK.
I'll "never " forget them. (-:
Please know that I, too, have friends in The Wall.
| 411 |
Capitalist Tool Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:52:05pm |
re: #375 Dustoff-507
So true, M60- in Seahorses and Hueys, or... maybe fitty on a chinook?
| 412 |
MrPaulRevere Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:52:12pm |
Its important to remember that neither Ayers nor Dohrn have expressed remorse for their activities. And Obama has not expressed regret for associating with them.
| 413 |
PSGInfinity Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:52:19pm |
| 415 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:52:46pm |
| 416 |
livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:52:47pm |
re: #399 mich-again
Another funny blog post from Obama's site, but this one was from a few days ago, imploring Obama to pick Hillary. But like Carole King said, Its too late baby now, its too late.. Hillary for VP
Rovian death machine? Drink!
All right- who leaked about General Rove's death machine?
| 417 |
Tigger2005 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:53:25pm |
re: #383 Colonel Panik
Which is what I find so frustrating with Charles's obsession with ID. I'm not a big fan of ID but I think the leftist takeover of American History curricula is a far greater danger to the educational system and the health of our Republic and far more in need of being exposed at this point in time.
There are a lot of people banging the drum about Creationists. The creeping Gramscianism in History, Sociology and Psychology is a bigger problem, IMHO.
"Obsession" is a pretty strong word.
And Charles has done plenty to expose the Leftist takeover of academia.
| 418 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:53:26pm |
re: #362 Tigger2005
Be a whole lot better if you beat HIS head against that brick wall! LOL!
| 419 |
Killian Bundy Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:53:35pm |
re: #397 slokat
How are the far left followers of the anointed One going to like that ol Plugs created the Drug Czar & the anti-Rave laws?
| 420 |
Karridine Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:54:07pm |
re: #404 Typicalwhitey
Worms!
Because when Obambi loses, BIGTIME, the KosKiddies will BLAME Kos, accusing him of sabotaging Obama's efforts by being rational!
They're like that, Typical! :D
| 421 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:55:19pm |
re: #394 bellamags
They were ALL Hueys.. or Cobras. My heart goes all to all of them.
Wither it be MEDIC or CORPSMEN, we tried to save them all. No higher calling!
My greatest respect goes to the men on the ground........... Many lived because of what they gave.
| 422 |
jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:55:35pm |
re: #403 Dustoff-507
Thanks.................... I can't say anymore than that!
I have many friends on that wall, same as Real west and TFK.
I'll "never " forget them. (-:
I was too young. I remember being in the States in '72 even as a young teen I was so pissed about the news and protestors.
My anti-communist strike was born early and set deep. I met a sweet old lady who managed to get out of Russia into Iran, she'd survived both the German death camps and the Soviet Gulags.
I went into the Air Force and tried for PJ school, you Dustoff guys know about the PJ's. But blew my knee to shreds training, and finished my tour as corpsman, surviving the Carter years.
| 423 |
de La Valette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:55:44pm |
re: #411 Capitalist Tool
I'm pretty sure fifty's were only used in a forward firing role in smaller helo's. No big deal .50 or -60, most people don't know the difference.
| 424 |
mich-again Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:55:53pm |
re: #416 livefreeor die
All right- who leaked about General Rove's death machine?
It wasn't me. Hiccup.
| 425 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:56:40pm |
re: #376 Capitalist Tool
Well yes and no - I think if you popped someone with a .50 caliber in the chest, he'd go backwards, not keep coming.
Course that's just a guess on my part. I got that little bitty 5.56 to work with!
| 426 |
inquisitive Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:56:49pm |
re: #136 Bobblehead
Okay who is Bear...and what does LGF and Charles have to do with this article....and The Minister Backing out?
from the comments on this article-----
"Would the good minister put in a good word for the anti-Christian Little Green Footballs fool chucky johnson?"
| 427 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:56:51pm |
re: #406 realwest
WERE paid to save buddy! I didn't say that. 0-:
| 428 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:57:07pm |
re: #411 Capitalist Tool
So true, M60- in Seahorses and Hueys, or... maybe fitty on a chinook?
She said her dad was a Marine. The Marines didn't fly the Chinook. But they may have had .50's on the Sea Knight.
My dad was old school....this was his bird.
| 429 |
de La Valette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:57:13pm |
re: #364 Dustoff-507
we'll keep you on standby for extraction... not a lot of potential exposure so you may just have to bring beer.
| 430 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:57:15pm |
BTW Mike Stark, one of the koskiddies is trying to get Fournier fired from the AP because he doesn't like the story he wrote on Biden and obambi.
He is calling for:
What if we were to do that with Fournier? What if we were to find out what church he attends (and record a sermon or two, ala Jeremiah Wright?) What if someone discovered that his wife volunteers for the John McCain campaign or made several thousand dollars in contributions to Republicans? What if we learned that Fournier took his daughter to a purity ball?
and...
finally... if you or anyone you know are in possession of any information that may help to expose Fournier as a partisan hack with an axe to grind, please email me at stark. m at gmail. com. All submissions will be kept confidential unless credit is asked for.
I believe this is the guy that put up nasty signs around bill o'reillys house and in his neighborhood.
The guy appears unhinged imo.
| 431 |
mich-again Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:57:24pm |
pick Hillary as your VP
By Leslie from Arlington, VA - Aug 18th, 2008 at 8:00 pm EDTI'm down on my knees begging and I don't do that kind of thing to any man. But this is important-Hillary is the one to unite us all as Democrats. Your other choices just don't make the grade. You need a strong woman at your side-she won't take over. Don't let the idea of the Clintons taking over cloud your decision. They won't do that-they've had their time in the White House. Bill and Hillary will only help you-so please choose Hillary and let's get on with this and kick butt in November!
| 432 |
jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:57:41pm |
re: #423 de La Valette
I'm pretty sure fifty's were only used in a forward firing role in smaller helo's. No big deal .50 or -60, most people don't know the difference.
| 433 |
kuffar Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:58:29pm |
re: #416 livefreeor die
All right- who leaked about General Rove's death machine?
When did Rove get a promotion?
| 434 |
solomonpanting Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:58:57pm |
A revealing comment from a Hillary supporter who also supports the Biden pick:
"It really kind of humanizes Barack Obama," Castner said. "He has this air of perfection, and Joe Biden is more down to earth."
He Has Risen.
| 435 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:59:02pm |
re: #415 Colonel Panik
Yes. It was that now that I recall, but he seems to talk about the 50 calibers more often. Were they used a lot? He and other soldiers were treated very bad when they got back to the US. Thats what breaks my heart.
| 436 |
Dr. Shalit Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:59:07pm |
re: #412 MrPaulRevere
Its important to remember that neither Ayers nor Dohrn have expressed remorse for their activities. And Obama has not expressed regret for associating with them.
"MPR" -
Remorse, hell no - as I recall his remarks were printed - in the NYT as I recall - on 9/11/2001 of all days!
-S-
| 437 |
livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:59:24pm |
"re: #430 Typicalwhitey
"Finally... if you or anyone you know are in possession of any information that may help to expose Fournier as a partisan hack with an axe to grind, please email me at stark. m at gmail. com. All submissions will be kept confidential unless credit is asked for."
I believe this is the guy that put up nasty signs around bill o'reillys house and in his neighborhood.
The guy appears unhinged imo.
Wow, look at that lonely e-mail of his, just sitting there, waiting for people to give him suggestions...
| 438 |
PSGInfinity Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:59:43pm |
re: #407 jcm
Cool! Thanks, JCM, I'll get that on the ol' Amazon list...
| 439 |
JSK1121 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 8:59:45pm |
I implore you, PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE. It really sheds light on the far left's collective idiocy.
| 440 |
Bobblehead Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:00:34pm |
re: #426 inquisitive
Okay who is Bear...and what does LGF and Charles have to do with this article....and The Minister Backing out?
from the comments on this article-----
"Would the good minister put in a good word for the anti-Christian Little Green Footballs fool chucky johnson?"
Someone obviously has an issue with Charles. My guess is a banned poster.
| 441 |
victory bound Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:00:41pm |
I found something good too:
[Link: www.commieobama.com...]
Disclaimer: I get no commission on the merchandise(pity!)
| 442 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:00:51pm |
re: #384 Dustoff-507
Well, I was referring to the guys who didn't come home alive.
Sorta like that verse in Stephen Stills song "Daylight Again/Find the Cost of Freedom"
"All the brave soldiers
who cannot grow older,
they been
asking after you."
Fuck Billy Ayers and his ever so charming wife.
| 443 |
de La Valette Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:00:56pm |
re: #432 jcm
Thats a whole different ballgame. BTW I love a promo shots that illustrate to our jhadi foes that they are being killed by a girl.
| 444 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:01:04pm |
re: #422 jcm
I understand buddy... The AF had Pararescue. Some of the most daring guys I ever met.
Hell I think they were NUTS. But if you needed them, they went in alone to take care of you.
My hat and shirt is off to them!
| 445 |
Racer X Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:01:27pm |
| 446 |
mich-again Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:01:46pm |
How about this cynicism from the Obama blog..
By Lydia from Durham, NC Aug 23rd 2008 at 2:39 pm EDT (Updated Aug 23rd 2008 at 2:39 pm EDT)
Biden can bring in some of those Americans wh would never vote for a black man!
really?
| 447 |
Dr. Shalit Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:01:47pm |
re: #439 JSK1121
I implore you, PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE. It really sheds light on the far left's collective idiocy.
"J" -
Read that article today, in the words of the great Colonel Sherman Potter"HORSE HOCKEY! That is all.
-S-
| 448 |
kuffar Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:01:55pm |
re: #439 JSK1121
You know, someone should point out that making conspiracy theories to explain your loss before you actually lose, is a sign of your party's stupidity and inadequacy.
| 449 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:02:11pm |
re: #428 Colonel Panik
I'll find out from him for sure (didn't mean to offend anyone). He's in Egypt right now and I have to contact him by email only (roaming charges are outrageous)
| 450 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:02:14pm |
re: #425 realwest
NO buddy It took them apart... I know... (-:
| 451 |
PSGInfinity Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:02:54pm |
re: #414 Typicalwhitey
You're very welcome. Just remember, he's waiting for you and the the rest of your family, on the other side...
| 452 |
MrPaulRevere Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:03:28pm |
Here's video of her at an SDS reunion. Get a load of the first speaker!
| 453 |
Racer X Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:03:33pm |
| 454 |
inquisitive Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:03:50pm |
re: #440 Bobblehead
Someone obviously has an issue with Charles. My guess is a banned poster.
This guy must have a real big issue to throw this into the comment on this article.
| 455 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:03:59pm |
re: #442 realwest
YEP............. they gave,
More than I can say for him!
| 457 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:04:05pm |
re: #387 Ojoe
Watch them turn on him so he won't take them down with him.
Yep, so far Obama's had pretty much of a free ride, but as most of us know, the media can love your ass one day and turn around and chew it off the next. My gut instinct is that enough people will catch on soon enough, that the MSM is gonna turn on Obama pretty damn quickly.
| 458 |
Kosh's Shadow Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:04:18pm |
re: #428 Colonel Panik
She said her dad was a Marine. The Marines didn't fly the Chinook. But they may have had .50's on the Sea Knight.
My dad was old school....this was his bird.
Those were well liked by the pilots. The big piston engine in front acted as shielding, and they could still get you home with some bullets in them.
The Hueys were much more dangerous.
| 459 |
jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:04:31pm |
re: #439 JSK1121
I implore you, PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE. It really sheds light on the far left's collective idiocy.
Jacob,
I am voting against Obama because:
His father worship.
Alinsky
Davis
ACORN
Ayers
Dorn
Resko
Wright
Michelle
His defense plan
His tax plan
His internal security force plan
His Health plan
His Education plan
I could give a fuck if he was lime green with purple spots, he most important color about Obama....
RED
| 460 |
yesandno Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:05:33pm |
re: #439 JSK1121
I implore you, PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE. It really sheds light on the far left's collective idiocy.
It is based on figures without meaning. To be old and white doesn't mean you only vote old and white. It means that maybe you are grown up and see the world as it is, as it might be.
Figures don't lie, but Liars figure.
| 461 |
mich-again Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:05:47pm |
Another snip from Obama's blog..
Not happy if it is Biden
By Isis13 - Aug 22nd, 2008 at 3:28 pm EDT
Also listed in: 1,000,000 Americans for Obama / Designers for Barack / Women for ObamaHe is a nice guy and all, but I didn't like the "clean" comment he made about Barack and I really don't like the fact that Geraldine Ferraro said last week, "It's going to be Biden." It sounds like a back room deal with the cigar smoking crowd in New York and Chicago-- if ya know what I mean.
Why isn't Bill Richardson in the running? Or is he?
| 462 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:06:07pm |
re: #449 bellamags
I'll find out from him for sure (didn't mean to offend anyone). He's in Egypt right now and I have to contact him by email only (roaming charges are outrageous)
You haven't offended anyone. Give your dad our regards.
| 465 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:08:02pm |
re: #458 Kosh's Shadow
Maybe, yet we came home with more than 100 holes in us.
Yes pistions were good. But most were gone by the early 70's
I've know the Marines to add NON reg stuff, hell Medevac did the same...
| 466 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:08:21pm |
re: #451 PSGInfinity
You're very welcome. Just remember, he's waiting for you and the the rest of your family, on the other side...
The Rose Beyond The WallNear a shady wall a rose once grew,
Budded and blossomed in God's free light,
Watered and fed by the morning dew,
Shedding it's sweetness day and night.As it grew and blossomed fair and tall,
Slowly rising to loftier height,
It came to a crevice in the wall
Through which there shone a beam of light.Onward it crept with added strength
With never a thought of fear or pride,
It followed the light through the crevice's length
And unfolded itself on the other side.The light, the dew, the broadening view
Were found the same as they were before,
And it lost itself in beauties new,
Breathing it's fragrance more and more.Shall claim of death cause us to grieve
And make our courage faint and fall?
Nay! Let us faith and hope receive--
The rose still grows beyond the wall,Scattering fragrance far and wide
Just as it did in days of yore,
Just as it did on the other side,
Just as it will forevermore.~ A. L. Frink ~
I love that poem.
| 468 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:09:14pm |
re: #458 Kosh's Shadow
It did not protect the pilots! Your talking to an old Helo guy himself!
| 469 |
Killian Bundy Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:09:18pm |
Retired Gen. Colin Powell is among the potential running mates who have been considered by John McCain, campaign advisers told Politico.
/imagine a debate with Ol' Plugs
| 472 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:10:33pm |
re: #469 Killian Bundy
/imagine a debate with Ol' Plugs
WOW.
That would stir up the MSM for sure!
Couldn't use the old "they are racists" crap then huh?!?
| 474 |
nyc redneck Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:11:06pm |
they are unrepentant terrorists. close friends of barack obama.
they want him elected potus so bad. more than he wants it.
| 475 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:11:13pm |
re: #470 bellamags
maybe we could become trolls.
I am a troll on the kos site
One with trusted user status.
Those dolts are so easy to fool.
| 477 |
jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:12:05pm |
re: #470 bellamags
maybe we could become trolls.
I tried to have discussions at media blogs in the past.
I'd post something like that, the results were, well entertaining. I was never engaged on points, just called names.
| 478 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:12:09pm |
My blog on the obambi site is still up LOL
| 479 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:12:10pm |
re: #475 Typicalwhitey
sweet. i love undercover stuff. have you learned anything interesting?
| 480 |
Pawn of the Oppressor Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:12:16pm |
re: #458 Kosh's Shadow
Those were well liked by the pilots. The big piston engine in front acted as shielding, and they could still get you home with some bullets in them.
The Hueys were much more dangerous.
A local mechanic that we sometimes take our cars to, was a pilot for the 219th VNAF, flying those things, getting our Green Berets in and out of places they shouldn't have been... He has a commendation letter from MACV-SOG on the wall of his shop. My roommate's father got a couple of stories out of him now and again, including one about pulling some of our guys off of a hilltop around which the NVA had lit an encircling brush fire. You'd never know what he did by looking at him.
| 481 |
Dr. Shalit Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:12:34pm |
re: #469 Killian Bundy
/imagine a debate with Ol' Plugs
"K-B" -
"Fuggeddaboutit" - and with that, it is past the witching hour here in EDST country and I am going to bed.
-S-
| 482 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:12:45pm |
re: #393 jcmIndeed:
[Link: www.imeem.com...]
/crosby_still_nash_daylight_again/
| 484 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:13:58pm |
re: #476 Dustoff-507
So we should watch you? (-:
I wade in the filth because I must know my enemy.
9/11 and the aftermath made things pretty damn clear for me.
Obambi hates my country.
I am doing everything I can to stop him from being elected potus.
McCain isn't my first choice, but I believe him when he says Country first.
| 485 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:14:06pm |
re: #458 Kosh's Shadow
Those were well liked by the pilots. The big piston engine in front acted as shielding, and they could still get you home with some bullets in them.
The Hueys were much more dangerous.
When my dad was in the Phillipines during the Hukbalahap rebellion in the late 50's (also known as the New People's Army...Maoists) he and another pilot were out searching for a Navy seaplane that had crashed into a mountain. They found the seaplane and recovered the bodies of the crew. One of the helicopters developed a mechanical problem so they sent the Marine squad and the bodies of the seaplane crew back on the working 'copter and my dad and a crew chief spent the night on the mountain and in the morning used parts from the seaplane engine to repair the 'copter...the seaplane either used the same radial engine as the copter or one that was similar enough that parts were interchangeable.
Fortunately they did not encounter the Huks.
| 488 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:15:17pm |
re: #410 Karridine Yes, indeed, my friend you do too.
There are a lot of veterans on LGF, but it seems like more from the Vietnam Era than any other.
| 489 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:15:33pm |
re: #484 Typicalwhitey
LOL. wading in filth is a necessary thing to stay close to the enemy.
| 491 |
Pawn of the Oppressor Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:16:00pm |
re: #308 bellamags
I think the younger Obama supporters simply haven't lived long enough to realize what the hell he stands for and the older supporters either haven't socially or intellectually developed over the age of 15. I have personally witnessed this for the past two months by watching a parade of Obama supporters visit the local Dem headquarters.
You are absolutely spot-on: Real adolescents raised by mental adolescents.
| 492 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:16:51pm |
| 493 |
mich-again Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:17:32pm |
DISAPPOINTED! By Josemari Aug 23rd 2008 at 3:26 am EDT (Updated Aug 23rd 2008 at 3:26 am EDT)
Not for the veep choice BUT for the fact that i found out about it from CNN first BEFORE the promised text message to staunch supporters! call it childish but i did want to know before the media did...
Thats childish.
| 494 |
big L Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:17:36pm |
Sorry, Dan--"WANTED" Posters are not fake and totally
accurate.
Boy they sure have weak child protection laws in Chicago area. Here in fly-over calif if a parent was an associate of rioter, bombers, or in association with a bomber couple, Child Protective Services would certainly do a field interview, I bet. Maybe grab the kids for a while...
| 495 |
faraway Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:17:42pm |
Notice how the seal is raised on this document.
| 496 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:18:52pm |
re: #421 Dustoff-507
My greatest respect goes to the men on the ground........... Many lived because of what they gave.
You are too modest by far, my friend. Dust off medics rode these big ole noisy Huey's into HOT LZ's all the time, with that big red cross for a target and Charlie sure loved shooting you guys up.
Far as I'm concerned every dust off medic was a true hero: going in harms way to save another man.
| 497 |
mich-again Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:19:28pm |
I like how "Obama Biden" is an acronym for "A Dean Bimbo".
| 498 |
inquisitive Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:19:45pm |
| 499 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:19:48pm |
re: #479 bellamags
sweet. i love undercover stuff. have you learned anything interesting?
Besides they are crazy?
Yes, they are slapping kos around because he doesn't much care for Biden.
The site doesn't tolerate dissent much.
Those kossacks attending the convention will be bringing a set of keys to jingle with them (the McCain housegate lol)
They use disparaging words against women.
There are a lot of new posters who pretty much shout down anyone who doesn't follow the party line.
And they are very interested in using threats and intimidation to shut down dissenting thoughts. They don't hesitate to attack, email etc any journalist who writes something they don't like.
They post while at work instead of working. And then wonder why their company has to downsize etc.
| 501 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:20:25pm |
OK you great people.
I have to hit the sack. I'm still with mountain rescue and have a AIRBORNE test on Sunday morning.
Jcm & REALWEST HAVE A GREAT EVENING and even a better Sunday..
Enjoy your evening all.
Dustoff.
| 502 |
martinleaf Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:20:55pm |
She at least was kinda good looking. Otherwise, I think she was a foaming at the mouth murderous loon, that would fit in with the "peace" group "International Solidarity Movement"
| 504 |
jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:21:22pm |
re: #484 Typicalwhitey
I wade in the filth because I must know my enemy.
9/11 and the aftermath made things pretty damn clear for me.Obambi hates my country.
I am doing everything I can to stop him from being elected potus.McCain isn't my first choice, but I believe him when he says Country first.
I know one thing about McCain that makes him acceptable as POTUS.
He knows what Duty and Honor mean. In the end, when it's all on the line that's all we can rely on. The man in that office standing on his honor and doing his duty.
He was far from my first choice (Hunter) but to Obama those are words in the dictionary.
| 505 |
Karridine Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:21:43pm |
re: #488 realwest
Yes, indeed, my friend you do too.
There are a lot of veterans on LGF, but it seems like more from the Vietnam Era than any other.
It was the beginning, Real, the beginning of humankind's access to the levers of power previously reserved for priests and kings...
WWII ended, our fathers had a vision of peace, but there is NO political or military solution to spiritual problems, where the human spirit is STILL, TODAY, seeking its own enslavement, hungering for blindness and eschewing the Light!
Vietnam showed SO MANY of us, there (or on some other God-forsaken boundary between freedom and socialism) that THERE IS NOT MORAL EQUIVALENCE between the Communists and freedom-loving, personally-responsible people!
| 507 |
Kosh's Shadow Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:22:54pm |
re: #468 Dustoff-507
It did not protect the pilots! Your talking to an old Helo guy himself!
OK, so the Air and Space Smithsonian article was wrong. It said that bullets coming from the front would hit the engine first.
| 508 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:22:57pm |
re: #499 Typicalwhitey
How do they threat? Give me some juicy specifics, if you can recall any.
| 511 |
jaunte Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:23:19pm |
re: #502 martinleaf
She at least was kinda good looking.
This sort of thinking tends to take the gloss off the looks: "At a 1969 "War Council" in Flint, Michigan, Dohrn gave her most memorable and notorious speech to her followers. Holding her fingers in what became the Weatherman "fork salute," she said of the bloody murders recently committed by the Manson Family in which the pregnant actress Sharon Tate and a Folgers Coffee heiress and several other inhabitants of a Benedict Canyon mansion were brutally stabbed to death: "Dig it! First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into the victim's stomach! Wild!"
| 512 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:23:49pm |
re: #506 bellamags
Obama Joe Biden
They use Joementom when they are raggin on Lieberman.
I like JoBama.
LOL
| 514 |
Dustoff-507 Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:26:24pm |
re: #507 Kosh's Shadow
YEP............ talk with the Marines Pilots.
Ok guys I must go.
PS. The hueys had protection around the pilots. Not the crew!
| 515 |
ggt Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:27:12pm |
Good Evening all. It kept threatening to rain or storm or something today in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland. Somehow, it never really did.
So is Bernadine under the bus yet?
How are you-all and what are we talking about?
| 516 |
NY Nana Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:27:43pm |
re: #305 Bobibutu
Gee - did Biden ever vet Obama before accepting? Guess not.
They deserve each other. We, however, need McCain, and the deadly Demonrat combo pretty much guarantees McCain in November!
/Proof that the collective IQ of the Demonrats=3.
| 517 |
livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:27:49pm |
re: #472 Typicalwhitey
WOW.
That would stir up the MSM for sure!
Couldn't use the old "they are racists" crap then huh?!?
But, but, then what will be responsible when (please God) Obama loses?
| 518 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:28:14pm |
re: #490 Dustoff-507
Cool.
Oddly enough he first told me that story one afternoon when we were living in Hawaii. We were hiking in the mountains behind Camp Smith in Aiea. There was a B-24 that had crashed up there during WWII and we found pieces of it scattered on two sides of a ridge. It was easy to identify from pieces of the cockpit window frame and the main landing gear.
I guess being in the rain forest and looking at radial engine pieces reminded him of that night in the Phillipines.
No Huks to worry about but we did startle a wild hog!
| 520 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:28:52pm |
re: #512 Typicalwhitey
I have put up some McCain signs in my windows at work (we are right next door to the dem headquarters). We REGULARLY get passers-by who pop their head in the door and say "I'm a democrat and I like your signs. I'm not voting for that Obama guy".
| 521 |
jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:29:23pm |
re: #515 ggt
Good Evening all. It kept threatening to rain or storm or something today in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland. Somehow, it never really did.
So is Bernadine under the bus yet?
How are you-all and what are we talking about?
If you don't vote for Obama you are a racist!
Can you live with the shame?
re: #439 JSK1121
I implore you, PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE. It really sheds light on the far left's collective idiocy.
| 522 |
Capitalist Tool Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:29:45pm |
re: #428 Colonel Panik
She said her dad was a Marine. The Marines didn't fly the Chinook. But they may have had .50's on the Sea Knight.
My dad was old school....this was his bird.
Yeah, you're right, I don't know what the Marines called 'em, they looked like "Baby Chinooks', being smaller than a regular S--thook... Ch- something, not 47.
Beats me.
| 523 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:30:06pm |
re: #520 bellamags
I have put up some McCain signs in my windows at work (we are right next door to the dem headquarters). We REGULARLY get passers-by who pop their head in the door and say "I'm a democrat and I like your signs. I'm not voting for that Obama guy".
HOPE!
| 524 |
livefreeor die Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:30:11pm |
re: #475 Typicalwhitey
I am a troll on the kos site
One with trusted user status.Those dolts are so easy to fool.
Wow, the decontamination process must be hell.
| 525 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:30:52pm |
re: #501 Dustoff-507
Goodnight my friend! Get that rest now, you ain't as young as you once were! LOL!
| 526 |
faraway Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:31:08pm |
FBI Alert - Missing:
Bernadine
Bill Ayers
Rev Wright
Father Pfleger
Harvard friends of Obama
Indonesian friends of Obama
Columbia friends of Obama
Legal clients of Obama
If you see any of these people, please alert your nearest blogger.
| 527 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:31:30pm |
re: #522 Capitalist Tool
Yeah, you're right, I don't know what the Marines called 'em, they looked like "Baby Chinooks', being smaller than a regular S--thook... Ch- something, not 47.
Beats me.
That was the Sea Knight. CH-46. They are still using that helicopter, and the airframes are older than most of the pilots who currently fly them. Oliver North flew in one when he went to Iraq.
The Osprey is supposed to replace it.
| 528 |
jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:31:42pm |
re: #522 Capitalist Tool
Yeah, you're right, I don't know what the Marines called 'em, they looked like "Baby Chinooks', being smaller than a regular S--thook... Ch- something, not 47.
Beats me.
CH-46 Sea Knight?
Smaller than the -47, Marine Corp and Navy, front gear is single not dual.
| 529 |
mich-again Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:31:51pm |
So the question to Biden and of course Obama is this is..
Does Biden, and I guess by his choice Obama support partitioning Iraq into three parts? Biden proposes partitioning Iraq. And what do the Iraqis think of such an idea? If the Iraqi government opposes that idea does Obama pursue it anyway if he becomes President? Or was Joe Biden all wrong in that assessment?
| 530 |
grahamski Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:33:22pm |
" Biden said. "Folks, campaigns for presidents are a test of character and leadership."
Strike TWO!....care to go for three?
| 531 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:33:24pm |
re: #523 Colonel Panik
You know what else is hilarious? We have started taking a photographic diary of all of the botched park jobs from these people. Taking up two spaces, crooked, over the lines, diagonally, leaving the car on so the radiator blows, etc. Its amusing and I still stand by my theory of the relationship of driving ability and IQ.
| 532 |
Dasher Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:35:00pm |
re: #239 jcm
What do Osama and Obama have in common?
Both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.
Great one! I have that saved.
| 533 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:35:17pm |
re: #508 bellamags
Bella
Here is a snippet from one diary.
Link
here
We know (or have reason to strongly suspect) from his email to Karl Rove that Ron Fournier is a right-wing Christain evangelical. What else do we know about him?
Precious little.
When the Rather story broke, Freepers got busy. For weeks they obsessed over fonts and sources and typesets... they launched a distributed research effort.
What if we were to do that with Fournier? What if we were to find out what church he attends (and record a sermon or two, ala Jeremiah Wright?) What if someone discovered that his wife volunteers for the John McCain campaign or made several thousand dollars in contributions to Republicans? What if we learned that Fournier took his daughter to a purity ball?
I'll be contacting friends at other news services and blogs; this is a story that deserves development.finally... if you or anyone you know are in possession of any information that may help to expose Fournier as a partisan hack with an axe to grind, please email me at stark. m at gmail. com. All submissions will be kept confidential unless credit is asked for.
Sample of comments:
Just sent you an email
with fournier infoAnd give'em hell, baby! Bring this motherfucker down!
Wouldn't you want to know if Fournier was the Chairman of his local KKK chapter? Alright... yeah, that is hyperbole, but the question forms: what is relevant from a persons private life when they constantly compose political hit pieces that consistently target Democrats?
this isn't fighting dirty
when you are provoked and you are on the side of the angels and you aren't lying or cheating when you fight (like making stuff up the way the Right does), then you are the White Knight.
| 534 |
Karridine Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:36:04pm |
Look at Biden with his plugs
And Obama with his jugs
Ears a'flappin'
Toes a tappin'
Couple of No-Clown Mugs...
Hair today, gone tomorrow
Biden is a hairy sorrow
Mouth a'flappin'
Blovious rappin'
Obama has gravitas to borrow!
Now, I admit I'm just a junkey
Here, without the BuzzSaw Monkey
Softly deridin'
Senator Biden
Obamessiah's loopy, Old-Guy flunkey!
Joe Biden: sets the gap to widen
Obama: No more poll-gap ridin'
Loser One
Loser Two
"Joe-Bama" where they're coincidin'
JoBama, you can always hope
JoBama, now you've got the rope
From sea to range
You hope for change
JoBama, you on a SLIPPERY SLOPE!
/Shamus Glimfurt, circa 1944: "The Future Quatrains Anthology", Doubleday
| 535 |
realwest Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:36:18pm |
re: #529 mich-again
LOL! Yeah, I remember that from back in May of 2006 - Biden has a looooong record of being wrong.
That's why Obama took him - he wanted experience!
| 536 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:36:35pm |
| 537 |
inquisitive Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:37:37pm |
re: #529 mich-again
So the question to Biden and of course Obama is this is..
Does Biden, and I guess by his choice Obama support partitioning Iraq into three parts? Biden proposes partitioning Iraq. And what do the Iraqis think of such an idea? If the Iraqi government opposes that idea does Obama pursue it anyway if he becomes President? Or was Joe Biden all wrong in that assessment?
This was discussed on Fox today.....Iraqi government glad it did not happen......JOE BIDEN WAS WRONG IN THAT ASSESSMENT ! Got him already...LOL LOL
| 538 |
Typicalwhitey Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:38:02pm |
re: #529 mich-again
So the question to Biden and of course Obama is this is..
Does Biden, and I guess by his choice Obama support partitioning Iraq into three parts? Biden proposes partitioning Iraq. And what do the Iraqis think of such an idea? If the Iraqi government opposes that idea does Obama pursue it anyway if he becomes President? Or was Joe Biden all wrong in that assessment?
Your answer is
here
| 539 |
bellamags Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:39:51pm |
re: #533 Typicalwhitey
insane, juvenile, nonsensical, and most importantly WRONG
| 540 |
Perf Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:42:15pm |
re: #221 yochanan
the KKK and others were around during the 60's
The KKK is right wing? I thought it was started by Democrats to fight Republicans.
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NY Nana Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:44:35pm |
| 542 |
Capitalist Tool Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:44:51pm |
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kuffar Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:45:02pm |
re: #540 Perf
DemoKKKratic Party. Party of Segretation Now, Segregation Forever.
Republican Party had the Aboligionists and Civil Rights Advocates.
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Perf Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:46:35pm |
re: #337 livefreeor die
Anybody want to predict which familiar faces from Zombie's protest threads will in Denver?
I bet the "Boobs not bombs" crowd will be there, screeching about Hillary.
Curious what the Ayers think about that group.
| 545 |
ggt Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:46:44pm |
re: #521 jcm
SHAME, it's the HORROR that worries me.
Anyone know a good site for an overview of employee rights in Illinois?
| 546 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:47:33pm |
re: #531 bellamags
You know what else is hilarious? We have started taking a photographic diary of all of the botched park jobs from these people. Taking up two spaces, crooked, over the lines, diagonally, leaving the car on so the radiator blows, etc. Its amusing and I still stand by my theory of the relationship of driving ability and IQ.
Well, I think Jackie Stewart was a pretty bright guy. My favorite race driver of all time. I think you are right about the driving/IQ thing.
When I hear "park job" though I think of this process, not putting a car between two painted lines. LOL.
| 547 |
ggt Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:48:10pm |
re: #529 mich-again
Yes, we all know that partition worked well before --UGH!
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jcm Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:48:34pm |
re: #545 ggt
SHAME, it's the HORROR that worries me.
Anyone know a good site for an overview of employee rights in Illinois?
West Coastie....
I glad we can live with our bitter clingy self!
/
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reine.de.tout Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:50:54pm |
re: #545 ggt
SHAME, it's the HORROR that worries me.
Anyone know a good site for an overview of employee rights in Illinois?
Illinois Dept of Labor might be a place to start.
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lifeofthemind Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:51:37pm |
Was Obama's interest in taking a job at U Chicago Law schools partly motivated by an urge to be at the shrine where Bernadine Dohrn was a student and the Weather Underground started? There is something very creepy and obsessive about him making contact with movement radicals and then moving himself to the ground zero of the great rebellion of 1968.
That may not be his only connection to part of the University's less positive history. Chicago is always sensitive to people who get to tightly wrapped up in messianic superiority fantasies. This was the home of Leopold and Loeb and for years afterwards students believed the University Library hid the Nietzche volumes. Note that everyone involved in that crime lived in the same small neighborhood of Kenwood where Obama now lives. Look at the map of where that happened and remember where Obama's house is at 50th and Greenwood.
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ggt Sat, Aug 23, 2008 9:57:35pm |
re: #549 reine.de.tout
Thanks, got that one. I think I want a NFP or Attorney's Corporate site that offers information from the employees point of view, not the employers. Perhaps a HR site. I found one that was very good, gave me a good overview from the employer's POV. Now, I need to investigate the other side.
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Sylvester_T_Cat Sat, Aug 23, 2008 10:06:20pm |
re: #204 de La Valette
You mean the West Point class of 68
Incredible poster, hadn't seen it before. Thank you for the link.
(Bit spooky actually. I had a Congressional appointment for that exact class (by Representative Ralph Rivers, Alaska). Didn't pass the entrance physical, sadly, vision requirement at the time (1963) was something like 20/30. I'm still glad I tried.)
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FamHistoryGuy Sat, Aug 23, 2008 10:18:45pm |
re: #271 Dr. Shalit
I have an SX 1500TD sitting right here. Still works. Along with a working turntable. And less than good ears. Thanks to the F-4 and gunfire.
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iceman Sat, Aug 23, 2008 10:39:27pm |
Bill Ayers in Venezula talking about education
with terrorism and the weather underground as a "great teaching moment"
[Link: hotair.com...]
you can find the other segments here.
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
I converted all twelve parts to audio which I have posted here
[Link: drop.io...]
the deal is that this will make an interesting clip when the annenberg challenge stuff comes out and the ayers/obama connection on education and close association over many years is revealed.
people will say, "what....obama was working on education with this guy?"
"Am I really going to vote for a president that associates with likes of this?"
listen to the clip at hot air above.
when I found this clip 3 days ago it had 200 views, I notified hotair.com and an hour later Ed had posted it and now it has north of 3200 views.
there is a bonus 13th audio clip of 10 minutes of ayers and zinn as the last clip in the audio files at drop.io
that clip is from here,
get the popcorn out
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mojoazul Sat, Aug 23, 2008 10:42:11pm |
Mark Steyn Said Ms. Dohrn held the North American Female record for not bathing.
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lifeofthemind Sat, Aug 23, 2008 10:51:10pm |
re: #554 iceman
when the annenberg challenge stuff comes out
Had a clip from Yes Minister about this the other day. I would expect nothing to see the light of day now. Obama is taking one lesson from Hillary. He is sending those files to the sme place the Rose law firm records went. Obama has less of a paper trail than any candidate for President in our history.
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deportman Sat, Aug 23, 2008 10:51:50pm |
Obama sure lives in a big glass house. Obama is a communist and terrorist enabler.
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kuffar Sat, Aug 23, 2008 10:52:34pm |
re: #557 lifeofthemind
Because his history makes him unelectable, that is why. We all know that. We should raise a humongous question always hovering over the Messiah's head.
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Ban Draoi Sun, Aug 24, 2008 12:43:57am |
re: #29 Outrider
As a Christian I struggle with my feelings/thoughts about these people.
One side of me says that I should pray for them.
Another side of me wants to see them both hanging upside down a la Mussolini style -- with nice neat round holes between their eyes and a meatfork jabbed into her stomach with a tag hanging from it that says "we have not forgotten."
| 562 |
Captain Jack Sun, Aug 24, 2008 3:20:36am |
Show that FBI wanted poster of Bernardine Dohrn to an Obama supporter and they will probably think she looks cool and hot. Obama's supporters will probably like him more!
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ishabibble Sun, Aug 24, 2008 4:52:28am |
re: #172 Jack of Shadows
Here's something about Dohrn and Ayers that doesn't come as often as it should: [Link: irnnews.com...]
Thanks for the link. I've been following the Ayers/Dorhn angle, and was unaware of this information.
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Irving Sun, Aug 24, 2008 5:02:23am |
Um, yeah. I was born in 1971. Obama was 10 years old when this thing was put up. This doesn't exactly resonate in a 2008 election.
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de La Valette Sun, Aug 24, 2008 5:17:46am |
re: #556 FamHistoryGuy
Believe me I know the details - it did not matter to the story. He probably flew 46's if used a .50, if he fly UH-1s he used an M-60.
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shropshire_slasher Sun, Aug 24, 2008 5:50:35am |
That's some preety impressive lamb chops on that wanted poster, mmmmmmm lamb chops! I read her wiki page, no mentionof Obama, just a mug shot with description statind it is a "sketch" I haven't had my coffee yet, what is her connection with Obama.
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arkay Sun, Aug 24, 2008 5:50:51am |
I would hope the McCain campaign has at least one person reading lgf.>
They do. :0)
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trulyyours Sun, Aug 24, 2008 6:12:57am |
#529
We've discovered Biden's personal notes made in his cryptic ancient Latin on this subject. I begins: "Allia Iraqia in tres partes divisa est" Surely he didn't copy that from someone else.
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quickjustice Sun, Aug 24, 2008 6:23:20am |
re: #566 shropshire_slasher
Together with Chicagoan Bill Ayers, Dohrn was an unrepentant former member of the U.S. terrorist group the Weather Underground, which placed bombs in public buildings (including police stations and the U.S. Capitol) around the U.S. back in the 1970s.
A bomb placed by Dohrn killed a police officer in San Francisco. The FBI botched the investigation, and Ayers and Dohrn walked free.
The two of them were early political supporters and friends of Obama's in Chicago.
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megulator Sun, Aug 24, 2008 7:43:28am |
Charles,
Thanks for posting this! I was considering aswking the museum if they would sell me the wanted poster. (The museum certainly doesn't know what they have.) But I decided to just take a picture of it and let it go. If you are interested in the original jpeg of the wanted poster, go to my photobucket site. Here is a link:
[Link: i409.photobucket.com...]
Megulator
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DoubleU Sun, Aug 24, 2008 8:10:54am |
The weather underground wanted race riots. I still think they want them.
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silversmith Sun, Aug 24, 2008 8:15:56am |
I haven't read the comments yet, but I have a good imagination.
Guys, I was a draft resistor and turned myself in in 1972. Spent a whole 2 weeks in jail. My friends who went to Viet Nam respect me for doing what I did same as I respect them. Sometimes, right or wrong, you have to stand up for your beliefs.
I respect anyone who did more than chew gum and listen to the crap put out by tricky Dick and his predecessors. Most of the country did nothing but go along and they had a name---"the silent majority".
I am pretty sure that Ms. Dohrn is an upstanding citizen these days and I am pretty sure I would be proud to count her as a compatriot of those turbulent days in the 60s and 70s when the only opposing force against Viet Nam was a few brave folks who were putting their lives and sacred honor on the line.
So as the ranting begins: Keep in mind----we won and the Viet Nam war is over.
Ask yourself..right or wrong..What sacrifice have you made so brave as Bernadine Dohrn?
For your consideration
Thanks and I look foreword to your replies.
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looking closely Sun, Aug 24, 2008 8:49:41am |
re: #277 Typicalwhitey
As he should.
Remember, Obama and Clinton roughly split the Dem primary vote 50-50. In fact, IIRC Obama actually lost the Dem primary majority vote.
If McCain can grab even 15% of the Hilary supporters votes (or have them not vote for Obama), that would be VERY bad news for Obama, as it could mean a sweep of swing states for McCain.
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silversmith Sun, Aug 24, 2008 8:54:33am |
McCain is one of those kind of folks I respect. He is a better man than me. I paid for what I did during Viet Nam. He paid way more and is stilll paying. Go McCain.
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silversmith Sun, Aug 24, 2008 8:56:54am |
GO MC CAIN AS LONG AS YOU ARE ABLE? Good answer for the age issue.
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looking closely Sun, Aug 24, 2008 8:59:24am |
re: #572 silversmith
Ask yourself..right or wrong..What sacrifice have you made so brave as Bernadine Dohrn?For your consideration
Thanks and I look foreword to your replies.
Its one thing to oppose the war in Vietnam on principle or for other reasons, and another to resist the draft.
But neither of these things holds a candle to the murder of a San Francisco police officer by a bomb, as Dohrn allegedly did, something you apparently believe is an act of "brave sacrifice".
In my book, being a petty murderous thug isn't anything to be proud of.
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silversmith Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:06:36am |
I agree murder is wrong and she should have gone to jail for it.
| 578 |
silversmith Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:11:00am |
Actually what I really believe is that she should have gotten the death penalty for it as it was totally premeditated murder. This does not change the sacrifice issue, nor does it change my sympathy for the dead cop or his family.
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silversmith Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:38:24am |
We were winning without her, but she may have knocked off a year of war. They, the government, were scared of us and the jails were full of us who would willingly suffer for our beliefs. If the war ended one day earlier because of what she did, I am guessing she saved 20 lives. Not bad for a murdering thug?
Looking at a bagger view than yourself is difficult and scary. It is even harder when it is your butt on the line. The fact is that no Vietnamese EVER attacked inside the continental USA. 50,000 US soldiers died for very little gain if any. As McCain says, we wasted our treasure and our lives.
Can you blame Obama for studying Ms Dohrn? I watch today as he tries to link Viet Nam and Iraq and he has been successfully pretty much. I think I watched here a video about what the Vietnamese were teaching the Arabs about their experience and how to wage war against the US. Can you blame Obama for studying Ms Dohrn and doesn't it make sense that he chooses one of the stars of the Watergate hearings for a running mate? Coincidence....I think not.
Much of the 'silent majority' of Democrats are for Obama because they weren't against Viet Nam and they feel guilty....so they send money.
I have a friend from high school (class of 69) who is Code Pink and totally an Obamaphile. She missed out on the 60s and so is a rabid Obama fan and antiwar activist. She wanted to be like me except she isn't willing to ruin her life over it or do much more than talk and spend money.
If you want to end war and stuff you have to do more than talk about it. Change? Same thing. Obama ain't it.
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looking closely Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:00:03am |
re: #579 silversmith
We were winning without her, but she may have knocked off a year of war. They, the government, were scared of us and the jails were full of us who would willingly suffer for our beliefs.
First of all, you're dead wrong about the war ending early because of this terrorist. There is no causal relation whatever. ZERO.
If the war ended one day earlier because of what she did, I am guessing she saved 20 lives. Not bad for a murdering thug?
Stipulating that there was ANY connection between this thug and the end of the war (and there wasn't), how many THOUSANDS of lives were lost because the USA pulled out of Vietnam early?
Looking at a bagger view than yourself is difficult and scary.
Indeed. Though, I find trying to rationalize the actions of unrepentant murderers far more scary.
She wasn't "brave" and she didn't "sacrifice" anything, and I have nothing further to say on this.
As to Obama, I can't speak to his relationship to Dorhn, other than to opine that no matter what it was (or is), it can't possibly reflect well on him.
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quickjustice Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:53:27am |
re: #572 silversmith
So let's see-- murdering U.S. cops with bombs shortened the Vietnam War how, exactly? The goal of the Weather Underground was to bring down the U.S. government, and replace it with a communist dictatorship through a course of domestic terrorist violence.
They also invented the concept of identity politics, which they believed would result in class warfare, pitting class against class, race against race, and gender against gender, and bring down the U.S. government. Thirty years later, we see what that has brought to the Democrat Party and the nation.
The U.S. became involved in the Vietnam War to contain communist expansion in Asia. Democrat President John F. Kennedy started the U.S. involvement, but then orchestrated the assassination of the President of South Vietnam. This was a horrible mistake.
Democrat President Lyndon Johnson continued the war, and profited from it through his connections with a major American defense contractor. He made Cheney and Halliburton look like pikers by comparison.
The Democrats lost the Vietnam War by cutting off funding and military support to the South Vietnamese too early. Richard Nixon pulled out U.S. forces, but was unable to get the Democrat Congress to fund further aid to the South Vietnamese to resist North Vietnamese aggression.
The Vietnam War was lost when North Vietnamese tanks supplied by the Soviets overran the South Vietnamese Army in a frontal attack. Congress had cut off funding for U.S. air support to knock out the Soviet-supplied armor.
You count yourself in good company with domestic terrorists and cop killers? I don't have to judge that. You judge yourself.
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bungie Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:12:09am |
re: #572 silversmith
I don't respect you. I think you were a coward. You are still rationalizing your "sacrifice" of two weeks in an American jail. WOW. . while 49,000(?) others lost their lives, and others still spent months and years in the jungle, the Hanoi Hilton, and VA hospitals.
I was an antiwar protester. I was deeply involved at the time in the demonstrations, the meetings, the movement. And I can tell you it did not take courage back then to be a draft resister. It was all the vogue.
What did you accomplish? You got Nixon elected twice and you got millions of pro-American Vietnamese and Cambodians killed. . .
Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn are spoiled rich kids playing at revolution while their rich daddies and connections bail them out of any legal difficulties so they don't ever have to feel the real life consequences of their theories. I wonder how their compatriots who ended up actually doing time feel about their freedom.
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Claire Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:33:41am |
re: #581 quickjustice
That's the crux of the issue, isn't it?
The goal of the Weather Underground was to bring down the U.S. government, and replace it with a communist dictatorship through a course of domestic terrorist violence.
These weren't admirable people trying to replace a corrupt government with an honest one, they were trying for a Marxist takeover. They weren't anti-war, they just wanted to Communists to win.
There's a documentary on the Weatherman on Amazon that looks interesting, (though incomplete due to bias by the film-makers.) The first comment on that page is worth reading as well.
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Claire Sun, Aug 24, 2008 2:30:51pm |
re: #584 dooder
Your post is on the overnight thread above. Did you forget where you posted it, doofus?
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Charles Sun, Aug 24, 2008 3:47:21pm |
re: #584 dooder
I know you wrote that you plan to "let people know how I handle this," so check this out: you're banned. That's how I'm handling it.
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silversmith Sun, Aug 24, 2008 3:56:40pm |
re: #580 looking closely
I find the holes in your arguments somewhat large as most of your argument is your opinion, much like my statement was my opinion. Your opinion does not disprove my opinion. I respect your right to your opinion and I am glad there is a place like this where the exchange of ideas can go on in polite discourse.
Thanks for your comments.
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silversmith Sun, Aug 24, 2008 4:09:09pm |
re: #581 quickjustice
Read
The Pentagon Papers
I am talking about the book made from the documents stolen by another 60's person who paid for it. When you actually understand the history of the Viet Nam war, you might understand some other concepts, such as the need for elections even if our candidate is not going to win. See Iraq and Afganistan for an update on the change in US policy. Another change was having clear goals.
As to your assertion that the Democrats lost the war I will just point out that Nixon ended the war just before the elections. I remember because I was alive then.
As far as the military situation, it was a rout because the country of Viet Nam (THE PEOPLE) voted with their guns and threw out the corrupt american dictatorship. (my opinion) If we were so great, the people would have supported us and they didn't because we backed a brutal corrupt government. Prior to our entry into the conflict with the communists, Americans were heros to the Vietnamese because we saved their country from the Japanese.
Thank you for your comments
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silversmith Sun, Aug 24, 2008 4:27:10pm |
re: #582 bungie
It is OK that you don't respect me or my opinions. I respect that.
If it to no sacrifice to go to jail, it certainly took less sacrifice to "work in the movement". We all did what we did in the belief that we were doing the best for our country. Peace brother.
I fail to see how I elected Nixon when I clearly voted for McGovern...and lost. I fail to see how I killed millions of people as I was against the process of pitting brother against brother in a meaningless civil war. Cambodia? Pol Pot was a nutcase and where does his genocide tie into this thread? Oh I get it, I elected Nixon and Nixon bombed Cambodia and Pol Pot was Cambodian and it is therefore my fault.....no I don't get it.
As to the sacrifice of the people from that era, I might point out that thousands of people are blogging right now about these folks and those folks have children and grandchildren. You are going on about this woman being a murderer and yet,as I understand it, she was not convicted through a legal technicality. Now all her neighbors are freshly reminded and everyone in school will be talking about mom or grandma. I am sure it is really easy to get a job when you are a bomber. No sacrifice. You my friend are the only one without sacrifice.
Peace
Thank you for your comments
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silversmith Sun, Aug 24, 2008 4:32:57pm |
re: #582 bungie
I was an antiwar protester. I was deeply involved at the time in the demonstrations, the meetings, the movement. And I can tell you it did not take courage back then to be a draft resister. It was all the vogue.
What did you accomplish? You got Nixon elected twice and you got millions of pro-American Vietnamese and Cambodians killed. . .
It just struck me that if you were really involved in the movement, that you would be saying what did we accomplish.
Methinks he protesteth too much!
| 591 |
Claire Sun, Aug 24, 2008 4:49:40pm |
Shhhh! Quiet now. Nobody talk about Bernadine Dohrn. It might upset her children!
And she's sacrificed SOOO much. It was really hard getting that job as Professor of Law at Northwestern.....
Oh, for crying out loud.
| 592 |
silversmith Sun, Aug 24, 2008 5:45:02pm |
re: #591 Claire
Live underground for a few years and you will know something of sacrifice. Sit in a jail for a while and you will know something of sacrifice. Kill a man and live with the memory and you will know something of sacrifice. Go to court. Live with the media. Have pinheads call you names and ridicule you.
Then take a few years and go get your law degree and become a respected professor with an opinion that MEANS something because it proves you know the difference between right and wrong. Do you think for a minute she doesn't have to re-examine her actions with every freshman class.
You get to hear the wannabees saying "For crying out loud".
It is easy to be an armchair quarterback, just like it is easy to sling one liners.
Put yourself in a situation where you actions mean something and see how well you do. I am sure Ms. Dorhn is paying a price even today and my hope is that she votes for McCain, cause in a way they are brothers of the same conflict.
Thank you for your comment
| 593 |
anubis_soundwave Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:50:11am |
re: #592 silversmith
Very interesting.
However, the fact remains that Ms. Dohrn, at the very least, supported insurrection against her own country.
Why couldn't she have moved to a country that shared her ideals--if they were so lofty?
Dig it: a peaceful exodus of anti-war protestors who hated the US Government, and were willing to uproot their lives for it--renounce their homeland and heritage. That would have been the proper way to protest the Vietnam War. Speaking out against it, as Dr. King did, would have been right.
Bombings? Molotov cocktails? That's stupid.
My point is that there was never a need for Dohrn or her associates to resort to THE COWARD'S WAY OUT. That is what Dohrn is: a coward.
Dr. King, the Tiannamen Square gent, Gandhi(who King was inspired by), Senator McCain(as a soldier, mind you--doing his duty): these stood for their beliefs and paid the price. Heck--I'll even throw Cassius Clay in there--he's one of the few men named Muhammad that I can possibly respect. Dohrn attacked the innocent.
But hey--"she learned her lesson", and is now an "upstanding member" of society. (if only that were true.)
Be real, man.
disclaimer: I was born December 27, 1976; so I wasn't even born when this took place. I lived through six PotUS Administrations (Ford was still a 12/76 lame duck). As a "black" offspring of a single mother, Obama's story resonates with me. Unlike him, I don't have Senator O's "daddy issues", and I don't want someone looking for stable parents in his 40s to run the country--especially if they're social malcontents like Dohrn and Ayers.
I'm not looking for perfection from human beings. That's a waste of energy. I don't even expect people to be angels. I only want them to be on the angels' side.
/end ID mode: presupposing the existence of supernatural entities. no flames please. ;)
= = =
This is a free country now. Has been for some time--at the very least, since I've been alive(note below). Thanks in part to the tireless efforts of my African ancestors (whose parents/grandparents were forcibly sold to Europeans by Arabs and rival Africans), I can honestly say that--warts and all--I like it here. I am free to say I dislike it here. I am free to leave if I dislike it so much that I hate what it stands for--there is no law saying I cannot leave.
The same applied to Ms. Dohrn. Whatever "hardships" she endured were self-inflicted. The First Amendment secured her right to screech at Kennedy/Johnson/Nixon; it even protected her appalling approval of the Manson murders. (you can dare to be stupid and repuslive in this country!) It doesn't permit her to commit crimes.
Sir, you are off-base. Like most Americans, you're likely Jacksonian--as long as Americans Don't Die--life is cozy. But back in the Vietnam War--as is now--that perspective is the kind of "America First" tunnel-vision that plunged us into WW2 in the first place. It's shortsighted, with no concept of long-term effects.
If you were to so much as browse the analysis posted here over the years, you'd gather that "we're still paying for the Carter Administration". How did we get Carter elected before my birthday? "America First".
I believe in "America First--and Best", not "America First--to the exclusion of all else." Clio, muse of History, will not be kind to us if we continue with the latter. Our weakness caused millions to die in SE Asia, and caused our enemies to think we were weak--and they attacked us accordingly.
I didn't have to be there to know that much.
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bullskin Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:30:20am |
re: #165 MandyManners
The basque idiom is a prehistoric dialect which survived when Emperor Augustus saw no interest in the region nor danger from within, so the people lost in those mountains where left alone for centuries. Nowadays is thoroughly used by basque separatists who mixed their dialects to create a more modern language to show they are different to all Spaniards. Much like the catalonians are doing. In fact their aim is that no children can be taught in Spanish in their separatists regions, (and they are succeeding).
The basque is loved by the communist-separatist terrorist organization ETA responsible for near 1000 murderings.
So you my find it uses Latin alphabet. They have words for rock, tree and things alike but when a word must describe anything involving civilization; i.e. space shuttle, television, etc, also involves exclusively Greek or Latin prefixes and suffixes plus some basque touch.
There are only near 0.5M people fluent in basque which is totally useless outside the separatist region. (English 508M, Spanish 400M, Tagalog, 65M).
I’d use too my mother language that is some kind of Spanish for rednecks, the Lebrixanus only spoken by 856.5 people which involves 30 different ancient orders for cattle and 2000 words to describe the beauty of a chick but in a civilized world this could be heavily offensive so I put my efforts better to learn some English and use it in English forums rather than my mother language.
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Claire Mon, Aug 25, 2008 9:27:11am |
re: #592 silversmith
So it doesn't matter if you are trying to overthrow the government and replace it with Marxism. What truly matters is how much you "care" and how much struggle you put into your efforts regardless of what they actually are.
Why the hell would I want to walk in her shoes? I could not care less how hard her life has been due to her actions- tough shit. She can cry me a frickin river. You are defending the indefensible.
| 597 |
Red Lion Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:02:18pm |
You have to admit though, she was a lot hotter than Tricia Nixon!
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quickjustice Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:30:37pm |
re: #588 silversmith
I'm old enough to remember the Pentagon Papers and the rest of it. Eisenhower sent a small team of military advisers to assist the French, who were fighting a communist insurgency in their former colony. Jack Kennedy continued the policy, and increased our involvement, orchestrating the assassination of the democratically elected president of South Vietnam in the process.
For those of you too young to remember, the communists had a bad habit of paying lip service to democracy, and then rigging elections to ensure their perpetual victories afterward. All communist nations outside Russia were Soviet puppets until Mao broke with the Russians. After that, all communist nations outside Russia and China were Soviet or Chinese puppets.
Nixon didn't "end" the Vietnam War. He pulled out U.S. forces as part of a strategy of "Vietnamization", in which the South Vietnamese would become responsible for their own defense. The war continued after the U.S. pullout, with North Vietnam continuing to receive massive Soviet and Chinese military assistance.
Against the combined military might of the three communist powers, the South Vietnamese were no match. The heavy tanks the Soviets provided enabled the North Vietnamese to overrun the South Vietnamese Army. The people of South Vietnam never "rose up" against the South Vietnamese government. It was an armored attack, supported by infantry, by the communists from the north that concluded the war.
The Democrat Congress then refused further military aid to South Vietnam after Nixon pulled our forces out. That refusal caused South Vietnamese defeat.
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