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Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 9:15:27 pm PDT

Where there is doubt, there is freedom.

Latin proverb

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1 Irene NYC  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:16:16pm

Olympics over. DNC starts tomorrow.

Let the games begin!
;)

2 Sharmuta  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:16:36pm

Only Nixon could go to China.

-Vulcan proverb

3 rawmuse  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:17:19pm

The closing ceremony of the Olympics was suitably spectacular. Worth watching.

4 de La Valette  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:17:46pm

Olympics are over - so the pollution and beatings can resume.

5 mbruce  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:17:49pm

Could the whole Obama sham be the ultimate Clintonian trick?

6 tradewind  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:17:52pm

re: #1 Irene NYC

Free at last... free at last...
TGA, we're free at last.........

7 oldbennevis  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:18:17pm

Where there is doubt, there is freedom.

— Latin proverb

I doubt that.

8 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:18:58pm

re: #7 oldbennevis

Then you have no fear anymore. You are completely free.

- V

9 rawmuse  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:19:14pm

We looked at a new house today. It was very energy efficient, solar roof. It was in a planned community, very eco-everything. We were interested in it, but the sales lady said she could see our auras. That was a deal breaker.

10 stevieray  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:19:15pm

"Where there is diffused and divided power, there is freedom"

stevieray

11 Cartman  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:19:45pm

My name is Joe Biden, and I am here to bloviate.

12 winston06  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:20:12pm

Doubt and being allowed to doubt is why Western civilization is what it is today and the rest of the world lags behind it.

13 Irene NYC  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:20:12pm

I was very happy for the Chinese people. Okay, the politicians "cheated", they spent $40 billion, etc., but it feels like we'll look back and see this as a turning point in Chinese history. After nearly 500 years, China is finally joining the [post] modern world standing on their own feet. And they've suffered long enough and hard enough to thoroughly deserve it.

14 tradewind  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:20:26pm

re: #5 mbruce

No, probably not. But I know some ticked-off Hillary supporters who took the timing of their 3am text messages as the final insult from The One, in payback for the ' It's 3am' ad.

15 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:22:13pm

re: #11 Cartman

My name is Joe Biden, and I am here to bloviate.

The ticket - Blab and Blabberer.

16 tradewind  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:22:15pm

re: #11 Cartman

If you really wanna wince for the guy, read the 1987 report re his blowing it via bloviating...
[Link: query.nytimes.com...]

17 de La Valette  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:22:53pm

re: #5 mbruce

Hopefully, I think she has good polling that shows that he is in trouble and has a few silver bullets to drop after she embraces and supports his historic candidacy - all the while getting her claws on that fund raising Rolodex and charting a path to 2012.

She will not be caught off guard in the caucuses again (funny how that happened twice this year in two very difference contexts) and will destroy Reid and Pelosi over the next 12 months.

18 Irene NYC  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:22:58pm

re: #14 tradewind

No, probably not. But I know some ticked-off Hillary supporters who took the timing of their 3am text messages as the final insult from The One, in payback for the ' It's 3am' ad.

I was wondering why they chose 3 am. But of course!

/hitting myself on the head

19 politicalinsomniac  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:22:59pm

re: #5 mbruce

Could the whole Obama sham be the ultimate Clintonian trick?

That's why I'm watching every minute of the convention.

To see when she pounces.

20 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:23:00pm

Exclusive: Obama- Clinton feud reignites

I KNEW I should have bought stock in popcorn!

21 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:23:11pm

re: #13 Irene NYC

Over here in the "Eastern" regions of the world, some of us think the Chinese were the ones who first developed "capitalism."

/once you go bank, you never go back...

22 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:23:45pm

re: #9 rawmuse


We were interested in it, but the sales lady said she could see our auras. That was a deal breaker.


Why? Cause she could see your auras or had the lack of manners to say she could?
/

23 Racer X  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:23:46pm

The Big Bang gets Clubbed To Death

Spark up a fat one and enjoy.

24 twincitiesgirl  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:24:03pm
Where there is doubt, there is freedom.

I have no doubt I love my freedom

/yea USA!

25 tradewind  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:24:14pm

re: #9 rawmuse

Thanks for the first unexpected, guffaw-out-loud, from the belly laugh I've had today....
a great way to end it.

26 ggt  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:24:20pm

I log-on, say hello and Charles posts an open thread. I am beginning to get a complex.

Hello all!

27 Beller0ph1  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:24:22pm

And now the competition heats up for the greatest prize in the world...to be leader of the Free part.

28 WayDownSouthInBama  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:24:29pm
Where there is doubt, there is freedom

And an Open Thread on LGF!

29 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:24:36pm

re: #9 rawmuse

We looked at a new house today. It was very energy efficient, solar roof. It was in a planned community, very eco-everything. We were interested in it, but the sales lady said she could see our auras. That was a deal breaker.

I was on a contract programming job about two years ago in Boulder, Colorado. The first week I was there, the owner made me stand with my arms out, cruciform style, and he ran bottles of herbal medications over my body and then told me which ones I should be taking.

I told him what I thought about the consult.

I was gone in two weeks.

30 Archimedes  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:24:57pm

Obama Biden?

Osama Bin Laden?

Hmmm... I think there is a clever turn of phrase in there, but can't quite tease it out.

31 tradewind  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:25:13pm

re: #18 Irene NYC

I bet it was just a screw up. But you know, there is conspiracy everywhere in politics, and to them, it was turning the knife, and they're voting McCain.
Whatever works.

32 ggt  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:25:16pm

re: #9 rawmuse

ROTFLAMO!

33 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:25:40pm

re: #30 Archimedes

Obama Biden?

Osama Bin Laden?

Hmmm... I think there is a clever turn of phrase in there, but can't quite tease it out.

I was thinking more on the line...

Master-Blaster 08

34 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:25:43pm

Morning Lizards! I give you the most bizarre beauty pageant of all time.

35 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:25:51pm

re: #17 de La Valette
Huh, how did it happen twice?

36 LaMano  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:25:56pm

Where people fear their government, there is tyranny. Where government fears the people, there is freedom.

37 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:26:03pm

re: #29 Walter L. Newton

I was on a contract programming job about two years ago in Boulder, Colorado. The first week I was there, the owner made me stand with my arms out, cruciform style, and he ran bottles of herbal medications over my body and then told me which ones I should be taking.

I told him what I thought about the consult.

I was gone in two weeks.


Now see if you would have listened you never would have gotten that hernia!

38 Beller0ph1  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:26:10pm

Here I am, ready to go to bed, and there's an open thread, on the eve of the Demonrat National Circus. This is going to be a good week.

39 pingjockey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:26:16pm

re: #29 Walter L. Newton
I am glad I live in the sticks. Haven't had to deal with any of that hippy dippy nonsense.

40 politicalinsomniac  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:26:34pm

re: #14 tradewind

No, probably not. But I know some ticked-off Hillary supporters who took the timing of their 3am text messages as the final insult from The One, in payback for the ' It's 3am' ad.

Reminds me of when the Clintons vandalized the White House keyboards on the way out by removing the W's.

Such children.

41 de La Valette  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:27:10pm

I'm sure they had to send it out at a low traffic time - but exactly at 3AM - some mid-level Obamican did that as a slap to HRC and is probably looking up at bus axles right now.

42 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:27:12pm

re: #34 Wyatt Earp

Morning Lizards! I give you the most bizarre beauty pageant of all time.

As if we don't know you signed up to judge.........

43 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:27:28pm

re: #9 rawmuse

If anyone saw my aura they'd be busting out the karma charms quick. [;

44 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:27:32pm

re: #37 Typicalwhitey

Now see if you would have listened you never would have gotten that hernia!

re: #39 pingjockey

I am glad I live in the sticks. Haven't had to deal with any of that hippy dippy nonsense.

Tw - He didn't wave a bottle down there!

Pj - do you live in Colorado?

45 Occasional Reader  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:27:36pm
Latin proverb

Well then it should be "Donde hay duda, hay libertad", or "Onde ha duvida, ha liberdade"...

(I took Latin, so I understand Latin America, hear that Dan Quayle?)

46 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:28:01pm

re: #42 Typicalwhitey

I did not! Swear to God! HA!

47 Occasional Reader  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:28:02pm

re: #11 Cartman

My name is Joe Biden, and I am here to bloviate.

My IQ is higher than yours, beeyotch!

48 Irene NYC  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:28:08pm

re: #21 laZardo

Over here in the "Eastern" regions of the world, some of us think the Chinese were the ones who first developed "capitalism."

/once you go bank, you never go back...

That's okay. I'm happy to give credit where credit is due.

We, however, developed the framework that allowed capitalism to flourish and enrich our entire society.
;)

49 tradewind  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:28:26pm

re: #30 Archimedes

Obama bin Lyin.
But the truth's coming out, courtesy of the UI-Chicago perps who wouldn't release the Annenberg files until a court ordered them to Friday.
Seems Ayers and Obama were a lot closer than he wanted you to think, and there's more. It'll probably have to be forced on the MSM, a'la Edwards, but it'll get there.

50 Racer X  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:28:27pm

re: #34 Wyatt Earp

Morning Lizards! I give you the most bizarre beauty pageant of all time.

I am going straight to...

51 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:28:33pm

re: #46 Wyatt Earp

I did not! Swear to God! HA!

I see your crossed fingers Wyatt...you ain't foolin' ME

52 ggt  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:29:00pm

Liber in latin means both free and book.

For some reason, I think that is pretty cool.

/bibliophile mode off.

53 rawmuse  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:29:07pm

re: #22 realwest

Why? Cause she could see your auras or had the lack of manners to say she could?
/

We just thought she was a nut-job. She thought we were interested in the eco-friendly place because we were advanced beings of light, when, in fact, we are just cheap. Or thrifty.

54 de La Valette  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:29:12pm

re: #35 realwest

We, the west etc were caught off guard in the Georgia (the Caucasus); she was caught off guard in the Caucus states. Its late here - I should go to bed.

55 Racer X  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:29:19pm

Obama Lin Biden

56 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:29:40pm

re: #51 Typicalwhitey

You got me. :)

And like Racer X, I am also going to Hell . . .

57 Racer X  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:30:23pm

re: #56 Wyatt Earp

I actually clicked that picture hoping for a larger size.

58 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:30:35pm

re: #56 Wyatt Earp

So watcha been doing today?

59 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:30:40pm

re: #45 Occasional Reader

My favorite latin proverb...

60 politicalinsomniac  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:30:51pm

re: #30 Archimedes

Obama Biden?

Osama Bin Laden?

Hmmm... I think there is a clever turn of phrase in there, but can't quite tease it out.

I've seen Obama bin Biden out there on a few sites. I like that.

61 pingjockey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:30:58pm

re: #44 Walter L. NewtonEastern Wa state. Wenatchee area.

62 avspatti  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:31:03pm

re: #29 Walter L. Newton

I don't doubt that for a moment. Many of these weirdos at the Convention are actually 'slumming' from Boulder.

63 WayDownSouthInBama  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:31:20pm

re: #38 Beller0ph1

Here I am, ready to go to bed, and there's an open thread, on the eve of the Demonrat National Circus. This is going to be a good week.

My only regret is that I'm on dial-up. It's going to be tough to keep up with all of the action next week. These threads are hard enough for me when things are normal. The DemCon is not going to be normal. Too many abnormal people for anything to turn out normal.

64 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:31:31pm

re: #58 Typicalwhitey

Golfed in the morning, worked at night. I'm not good at either. ;)

65 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:31:33pm

re: #48 Irene NYC

I KNEW those evil Westerners take everything about the other cultures and beat it and forcibly mold it into something they can say was theirs to begin with!

/like pasta, lol

66 Occasional Reader  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:31:36pm
67 politicalinsomniac  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:32:27pm

re: #49 tradewind

Obama bin Lyin.
But the truth's coming out, courtesy of the UI-Chicago perps who wouldn't release the Annenberg files until a court ordered them to Friday.
Seems Ayers and Obama were a lot closer than he wanted you to think, and there's more. It'll probably have to be forced on the MSM, a'la Edwards, but it'll get there.

Obama bin Lyin.

That's gold, Jerry! Gold!

68 Dustyvet  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:32:33pm

re: #9 rawmuse

We looked at a new house today. It was very energy efficient, solar roof. It was in a planned community, very eco-everything. We were interested in it, but the sales lady said she could see our auras. That was a deal breaker.

Yeah but did you hang around got the crystal ball part of her act, followed by her brother pulling bunny out of a hat...?

69 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:32:46pm

re: #57 Racer X

I actually clicked that picture hoping for a larger size.

I got a larger size on this end after viewing the picture.

70 Lawrior  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:33:12pm

re: #13 Irene NYC

I don't know if I can agree with you. This was mainly a show for the ChiComs to demonstrate to the world that they are a "modern" nation. The real problem is that most Chinese live a meager existence in either a rural backwater or an industrialized cesspool.

While I would like to see this be the end of the line for the Communists there, I don't think it will happen any time soon. Freedom in the sense that we conceive it does not exist there, and will not until the Communists decide to let it happen. Given what happened to Russia after Gorbachev introduced Glasnost, I don't see the ChiComs as willing to take the chance of losing power by loosening any part of their grip on power.

71 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:33:16pm

re: #20 Typicalwhitey
Hey there Typicalwhitey - loved this line from your link:

Paul Begala, a former operative who has spoken to both Clintons in recent weeks, agreed. He said the former president, whatever mixed feelings remain from the primaries, will work to elect Obama because, “It’s killing him to watch what has happened over the past eight years. It’s been torture to watch the slow unraveling of so much of what his administration achieved.”

What the hell was there to unravel? Seriously? I do think the link is also wrong about Bill being more pissed off than Hillary; it's just that Hillary is sooo much better at hiding her feelings. She'll say all the right things, but I suspect she's going to damn Obama with faint praise.
This could be a really FUN convention!

72 Racer X  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:33:25pm

re: #66 Occasional Reader

Two men enter, one man leaves!

73 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:33:53pm

Whoa this thread is really skipping along!

74 rawmuse  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:34:00pm

re: #66 Occasional Reader

FTA "The former president is disappointed, associates said, because he is eager to speak about the economy and more broadly about Democratic ideas — emphasizing the contrast between the Bush years and his own record in the 1990s."
His own record, which led directly to the attacks of 9-11...

75 Racer X  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:34:12pm

re: #69 Walter L. Newton

I got a larger size on this end after viewing the picture.

LOL!

If you believed, you would be going to!

76 Colonel Panik  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:34:45pm

re: #53 rawmuse

We just thought she was a nut-job. She thought we were interested in the eco-friendly place because we were advanced beings of light, when, in fact, we are just cheap. Or thrifty.

Did she mention the Lightworker™? That would have been a dealbreaker for me.

77 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:35:13pm

re: #26 ggt Hi there ggt!
Hope you're well tonight! Er, early this morning for me, I mean!

78 Cartman  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:35:19pm

re: #38 Beller0ph1

Here I am, ready to go to bed, and there's an open thread, on the eve of the Demonrat National Circus. This is going to be a good week.

There will be kooks everywhere, as far as the eye can see. Like swarms of addled locusts.

79 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:35:23pm

re: #72 Racer X

re: #66 Occasional Reader

In the end...there can be only one.

80 ggt  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:35:26pm

re: #48 Irene NYC

or, the West tried and succeeded in creating a culture in which individuals could use Capitalism to thrive. Perhaps Capitalism combined with the concept of "human rights" one of the greatest achievements of human history.

81 rawmuse  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:35:58pm

re: #76 Colonel Panik

Did she mention the Lightworker™? That would have been a dealbreaker for me.

The place was in Sebastopol, CA. Wall to wall Obama stickers.

82 Inquisitive  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:36:08pm

BBL--going to go and spend some quality time with my son....watch him play WOW.

83 politicalinsomniac  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:36:20pm

re: #20 Typicalwhitey

Exclusive: Obama- Clinton feud reignites

I KNEW I should have bought stock in popcorn!

Need to remember to TiVo Bubba's speech. His 'endorsement' of Obama should be very interesting.

84 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:36:25pm
85 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:36:34pm

re: #77 realwest

Real! Did you get my reply?

86 tradewind  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:37:39pm

re: #73 realwest

It's that same lightheaded giddy feeling you get when the evolution thread unravels afterschool bell rings, everyone just comes skipping out.

87 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:37:42pm

re: #65 laZardo

Know what the scary thing is? Most cultures will have similar foods but with different names. One example is "dumplings" Most european and asian cultures have a form of the dumpling but they are given different names, like perogies for example, or wontons.

/food geek as well as science geek.

88 Colonel Panik  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:38:02pm

re: #78 Cartman

There will be kooks everywhere, as far as the eye can see. Like swarms of addled locusts.

Fear and Loathing in Denver.

89 Killer Tomato  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:38:31pm

Yeah, I’d say there’s ‘bad blood’ between the Clinton and Obama camps.

Earlier I watched that video (posted by funky chicken)
http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index .htm

The part I thought was the MOST disgusting was Part 3, minute 3:53 – there’s an interview with a woman who was a Civil Rights Activist; she’d marched with MLK. She describes witnessing two African-American males deny an elderly African-American woman her Civil Rights; turning her away from the polling place and saying, "If you're not voting for Obama, go home. You're not voting here today."
She describes the look on the woman’s face, and I thought ‘here’s a woman who suffered through the disenfranchisement of the 30’s, 40’s, 50’s; saw the triumphs of the Civil Rights movement, and is now back to being threatened at a polling place to prevent her from voting, only now it’s by members of her own race’.
This is the Democrat Party?

90 ggt  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:38:50pm

re: #77 realwest

Hey rw! I'm hangin' in there. Thanks for askin'.

How you doin'? It's almost mornin' here.

91 Lawrior  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:38:58pm

re: #33 Walter L. Newton

I was thinking more on the line...

Master-Blaster 08

I was going to photoshop that together, but I could not decide which candidate would be which character. Neither one of them will ever be quiet, so there is no obvious choice for Blaster. Obama is on the top of the ticket, leading to him being Master.

92 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:39:15pm

re: #53 rawmuse Thrifty, I'd say.
Did she talk at all about Fun Shuy or however it's spelled?!

93 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:39:27pm

re: #87 BlueCanuck

Chicharron is the local variant of pork rinds.

And on that food-related note, I'm going to have a severely-late breakfast. Brb.

94 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:39:39pm
Golfed in the morning, worked at night. I'm not good at either. ;)


I bet you are.

95 Irene NYC  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:39:49pm

re: #70 Lawrior

I don't know if I can agree with you. This was mainly a show for the ChiComs to demonstrate to the world that they are a "modern" nation. The real problem is that most Chinese live a meager existence in either a rural backwater or an industrialized cesspool.

While I would like to see this be the end of the line for the Communists there, I don't think it will happen any time soon. Freedom in the sense that we conceive it does not exist there, and will not until the Communists decide to let it happen. Given what happened to Russia after Gorbachev introduced Glasnost, I don't see the ChiComs as willing to take the chance of losing power by loosening any part of their grip on power.

The Chinese people got to meet the world, and the world got to meet the Chinese people. It was up front and personal.

Of course China has horrendous problems facing it. The point, however, I was try to get at was that I don't think the Chinese people will allow their government to turn back the clock. They've been very patient for centuries now and they sense that this is their moment to join the rest of the world.

I wish them the best and wish them the best of luck.
;)

96 politicalinsomniac  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:40:02pm

re: #84 Typicalwhitey

Chicago Tribune Editorial

Not sure where the "good government" part of that headline comes from...

97 tradewind  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:40:14pm

re: #87 BlueCanuck

I don't know..... first layover I had in Seoul,I was warned to keep an eye out for puppy on the menu, and I don't mean a spinoff of the hotdogs we have back home.

98 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:40:15pm

re: #91 Lawrior

I was going to photoshop that together, but I could not decide which candidate would be which character. Neither one of them will ever be quiet, so there is no obvious choice for Blaster. Obama is on the top of the ticket, leading to him being Master.

NO, DON'T DO IT. The Dems may like it and use it.

99 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:40:47pm

re: #54 de La Valette
Ah, I see - sorta. Yeah hey, if you're in the Eastern Time Zone you should go to bed.
I should too, but then again I am rather perverse at times!

100 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:40:50pm

re: #96 politicalinsomniac

Not sure where the "good government" part of that headline comes from...

Read the replies..........

101 ggt  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:40:52pm

re: #84 Typicalwhitey

I quit reading at "Foghorn Leghorn". I needed a good laugh.

thanks.

102 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:41:30pm

re: #94 Typicalwhitey

Cool! What do I win? I shot a 119. That is NOT a typo. A 119.

103 Irene NYC  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:41:47pm

re: #80 ggt

or, the West tried and succeeded in creating a culture in which individuals could use Capitalism to thrive. Perhaps Capitalism combined with the concept of "human rights" one of the greatest achievements of human history.

Yes that, but we also built the institutions and infrastructure, educated the populace, and invented a form of government that supports capitalism.

104 Archimedes  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:41:55pm

re: #33 Walter L. Newton

I was thinking more on the line...

Master-Blaster 08

Master=The Messiah? What is Blaster?

105 Occasional Reader  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:42:04pm

Tired. Must sleep. Good night.

106 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:42:38pm

re: #93 laZardo

Chicharron is the local variant of pork rinds.

And on that food-related note, I'm going to have a severely-late breakfast. Brb.

And if a you ever saw how they traditionally make them, you wouldn't eat them. Whole sides of pig fat, 3-4 feet long, dipped in a vat of hot oil. My ex-wife was Hisapnic, and I saw this a lot. For some reason, they look more appealing when they are in those little chip sized pieces in a plastic bag.

107 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:42:39pm

re: #95 Irene NYC

They "met the world" in the early 1900s when the European colonial powers and Japan controlled their seaports. They're probably not as much into welcoming the world as showing them that they can beat the other powers at their own game (in this case, good ol' fashioned capitalism).

/goes back to eating

108 Cartman  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:42:55pm

Long ride on the Harley today + 1 (one) Ambien = possible sleep

G'nite, all...and weet dreams.

109 Colonel Panik  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:43:29pm

re: #92 realwest

Thrifty, I'd say.
Did she talk at all about Fun Shuy or however it's spelled?!

Australia's Favorite Criminal, "Chopper Reid" tells you what to do with Feng Shui.

"I don't who the f*** this bloke "Chi" is but I don't want 'im floatin' through my place."

110 Irene NYC  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:43:31pm

Hey real!

Are you having great weather - we certainly had a fabulous, fabulous weekend.

Rain tomorrow. Yuck.

111 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:44:07pm

re: #102 Wyatt Earp

Cool! What do I win? I shot a 119. That is NOT a typo. A 119.

Did you go bowling too?

112 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:44:21pm

re: #100 Typicalwhitey

Enjoyed the comments section over there.

113 rawmuse  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:44:22pm

re: #92 realwest

Thrifty, I'd say.
Did she talk at all about Fun Shuy or however it's spelled?!

Feng shui. Yes. We do a bit of that at our house as well. Most of it is just common sense. The place had lots of flowing water. Grey water fed the gardens.

The new toilets have 2 flush modes, a full flush for number 2 and a half flush for number 1.

The water issue is pretty important since we appear to be coming in to drought year number 3.

Solar roof sells power back to PGE.

Maybe we should just ask for another sales person...

114 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:45:18pm

re: #108 Cartman

Nite, Cartman.

115 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:45:36pm

re: #111 Typicalwhitey

It looks like I played two rounds!

116 Irene NYC  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:45:45pm

re: #107 laZardo

The Chinese people have suffered a lot at the hands of many for a very long time. Maybe this time around they can have some hands extended to them in friendship.

117 Colonel Panik  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:45:59pm

re: #113 rawmuse


The new toilets have 2 flush modes, a full flush for number 2 and a half flush for number 1.

A Goreacle potty!

118 Lawrior  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:46:25pm

re: #98 Walter L. Newton

Don't worry, my tablet is packed up and I am far too lazy right now to get it out. Mayhaps after the campaign something can be done.

119 ggt  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:47:00pm

re: #103 Irene NYC

To shorten it up --more of our children eat every day than theirs.

120 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:47:38pm

re: #70 Lawrior
FWLIW, I don't think the ChiComs are going to "let" it happen; just as with the Soviet Union it's going to be forced upon them.

You know, with all the foofrawing about the conventions and Obama or Clinton vs Mcain, the fact is that it's something WE should take pride in; every four or eight years, power changes hands in this great nation and it does so peacefully. And it has for our entire existence (excluding the Civil War).
And I think it's a remarkable testament to the wisdom of the Founding Fathers and to all of us that this peaceful handing over the reins of power happens.

121 Maximu§  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:49:01pm

Well, the Olympics is over and now its time for some real sports...NFL Football!

122 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:49:05pm

Life of Gaffes for Sloppy Joe

The long knives are out already lol

123 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:49:25pm

re: #113 rawmuse


The new toilets have 2 flush modes, a full flush for number 2 and a half flush for number 1.

And, I like those multi-flush toilets. I never saw anything like that until my first trip to France 8 years ago. For a matter of fact, I was fascinated by the many types of toilets in Europe. Multi-flush, Turkish style, bidets (I really liked them), co-ed, some co-ed rooms with no doors on the stalls, public kiosk style on the streets (after you leave, they spray water all over the inside, washing it all down) and so on.

So much to see in Europe.

124 Dasher  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:49:27pm

Anybody besides me having problems connecting to FreeRepublic.com ?

125 Cartman  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:49:51pm

re: #113 rawmuse


The new toilets have 2 flush modes, a full flush for number 2 and a half flush for number 1.

No atomic flush mode for those...um...emergencies? ;)

126 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:50:02pm

re: #115 Wyatt Earp

Did you arrest any bad guys

127 rawmuse  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:50:04pm

re: #120 realwest

Which is why I blow my top when people refer to the "Bush regime". Regimes have to be overthrown, but President Bush will indeed step down. Hell, if I were him, I would even welcome it. He has toiled long in the garden.

128 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:50:12pm

re: #78 Cartman Hey my friend, good evening to you.
I gotta tell ya, I hope some talking head on TV takes that "swarms of addled locusts" phrase of yours and uses it - and in Prime Time, too! LOL!

129 Bobibutu  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:50:51pm

re: #4 de La Valette

Olympics are over - so the pollution and beatings can resume.

I am hoping that the ChiComs are monitoring.

130 ggt  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:50:58pm

re: #125 Cartman

I'd just be happy to have a toiled that flushed properly. These so-called "water saving" toilets are a crock. We flush twice as often becaue they don't work.

131 Cartman  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:51:02pm

re: #128 realwest

hehe

132 yitzy  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:51:07pm

re: #30 Archimedes

Obama Biden?

Osama Bin Laden?

Hmmm... I think there is a clever turn of phrase in there, but can't quite tease it out.

Obamity Biden Laden?

133 Dasher  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:51:09pm

re: #127 rawmuse

Which is why I blow my top when people refer to the "Bush regime". Regimes have to be overthrown, but President Bush will indeed step down. Hell, if I were him, I would even welcome it. He has toiled long in the garden.

I am glad he had so much fun at the Olympics.

134 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:51:48pm

re: #126 Typicalwhitey

A few. Apparently, some people think it's okay to beat their wives with a broom handle. Nice.

135 Lawrior  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:51:55pm

re: #104 Archimedes

Master=The Messiah? What is Blaster?

Master Blaster and Aunt Entity battle for control of Bartertown in the future. Screw it, just read this.

136 TnTx13  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:52:20pm

re: #130 ggt

I'd just be happy to have a toiled that flushed properly. These so-called "water saving" toilets are a crock. We flush twice as often becaue they don't work.

Good evening, all. I've been working on my mom's old house, which still has archaic 1960's plumbing - what wonderful toilets!

137 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:52:50pm

re: #134 Wyatt Earp

I was watching cops tonight and I thought if I had to chase some moron for 30 minutes over fences and through backyards, I would beat the crap out of them once I caught them

138 Cartman  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:52:55pm

re: #130 ggt

Prolly have to get a special dispensation from the Pope to obtain a decent crapper these days.

139 Dasher  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:52:56pm

re: #130 ggt

I'd just be happy to have a toiled that flushed properly. These so-called "water saving" toilets are a crock. We flush twice as often becaue they don't work.

Yep -- I almost took my 3.5 gal toilets out of the house I sold last year, to bring to the new townhouse, but I didn't. Now I regret it.

140 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:53:03pm

re: #135 Lawrior

First half of that movie = awesome.

Second half? Not so much.

141 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:53:07pm

re: #106 Walter L. Newton

Ironically, I saw that same process on a documentary on local businesses on TV a few months back and it didn't make it less appealing to eat. Must probably be a cultural thing. >_>

/back to breakfast, srsly this time

re: #116 Irene NYC

And inwardly, they'll be smiling at the thought of some sweet (money-based) revenge. Heck...what isn't made in China these days? (not that "Made in China" products/components are shabby, of course...just avoid the ones that are also branded from China...)

I'm reluctant about the notion that they'll return the "friendship," I got the hint when I read about this skyscraper in Shanghai that has a square "hole" near the top because if they put a round hole, it would remind the citizens of Japanese occupation.

142 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:53:52pm

re: #85 laZardo No, and I'm sorry but I don't even remember my question to you!

143 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:53:57pm

re: #137 Typicalwhitey

I would never condone such acts, nor would I ever participate in . . .

Bawahahahahahahaha! Nah, I'm yankin' ya. Those toads deserve to get their cans whupped.

144 ggt  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:54:02pm

re: #127 rawmuse

Tell me about it. Kids today aren't taught to think about what they hear --actual vocabulary.

I had one friend that went absolutely nuts when the MSM started calling the whacko's in Iraq "insurgents". He said that by Geneva Convention definition they were "merceneries".

MSM is good at trying to change the public perception of what words mean.

145 Beth Hoffman  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:55:14pm

www.obamacrimes.com
Law suit filed 8/24/08 by a democrat that Obama is ineligible for running for president because Obama is not a legal citizen of USA.

146 tradewind  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:55:17pm

re: #122 Typicalwhitey

Long dong silver knives.
That Thomas hearing is going to come back to haunt him.

147 rawmuse  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:55:27pm

re: #144 ggt

Words mean things, yes. We tend to, like, uh, uh, um, forget this. Like.

148 ggt  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:55:43pm

re: #139 Dasher

Naw, I checked-it-out. at the time it was about $1K--glazed all the way thru and what-not. I don't think I spend that on water in 3 years.

149 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:55:50pm

re: #90 ggt Glad to hear your doing well - I'm pretty damn tired myself and am going to sleep shortly!

150 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:56:27pm

A bathroom story from me.

I found a unisex restroom today. It was Sunday, June 10th 2001 and we were eating lunch at La Gourmandiere in the little town of Germangy. This was the first Sunday of our trip. The restaurant was filled with after-church families, children in their Sunday clothes and young French couples.

After eating lunch, nature called. I didn’t have a clue. I scanned the room and saw a door marked “Toilettes” (pronounced “twah-lets” in French). Clue number one should have been that the word was PLURAL. So I passed through the door into a rather large room. On the other side of the room was a stall marked “Hommes.” I was so proud of myself. I had been studying my French before I left the states and I knew that “Hommes” translated to “men.”

I open the door and went in and sat down. My second clue should have been “why is the word men hanging on the stall door INSIDE OF THE RESTROOM.”

So here I am sitting, waiting for that great big one, when I hear the restroom door open and two chatty restaurant patrons walk in.

They are women! I figured that my limited knowledge of French had failed me and then at that moment my bladder failed me. I couldn’t control it. Now I know why the French call restrooms “water closets.” I almost pissed all over myself. I tucked my feet up on the toilet seat, wrapped my arms around my knees and assumed a fetal position balanced on top of the shit can. I didn’t want them to get a peek of a pair of men’s shoes planted on the floor tiles of the stall.

I broke out into a cold sweat and went on an auto pilot prayer vigil. “Please God, don’t let them find me in the woman’s restroom. I don’t want to get to know the local police and end up wasting away in some rural version of the Bastille.”

I heard another stall door open and shut, two minutes of silence, toilet flush, door open and shut again and then the whole sequence repeated. If I were paying any attention my third clue would have been the fact the two women had used the SAME stall, never even peeking into my little cell.

They left the restroom. I wipe, zip up and bolt out of the stall. I looked around the room to make sure that one of the women had not stayed behind to powder up or fix her makeup.

And then I saw the light. A sign on the other stall read “Femmes.” Of course, this is a typical European co-ed restroom. I sauntered out and sat down with my fellow travelers, bragging about how much I understood the French culture.

Walter in Golden, Co.

151 TnTx13  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:56:41pm

re: #147 rawmuse

Words mean things, yes. We tend to, like, uh, uh, um, forget this. Like.

Oh, no - there's a whole generation out there that will be shocked to hear that...

152 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:57:17pm

re: #143 Wyatt Earp
And I am sure you are just the guy to spank them!

153 ggt  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:57:36pm

re: #147 rawmuse

DUDE! 'sup?

154 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:58:24pm

re: #109 Colonel Panik
LOL! Great one, that!

155 Lawrior  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:58:47pm

re: #140 Wyatt Earp

Agreed. I had enough of the feral kid from Road Warrior, and I didn't need to deal with anything similar. Mad Max, on the other hand, rules from start to finish.

156 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:59:24pm

re: #143 Wyatt Earp

LOL, somewhere around here I have an old t-shirt that I got right after the LA riots. It says something like "Raped? Mugged? Need Help?....next time call "Rodney King", "The ACLU", "The Los Angeles Times". Don't think I ever had a chance to wear that shirt but I never will throw it away either.

157 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 9:59:47pm

re: #110 Irene NYC
Hey Irene, same here and we're supposed to get rain and heavy T-Storms starting Wednesday, when I get my tooth (or teeth) pulled.
Oh. Joy.

158 ggt  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:00:07pm

re: #152 Typicalwhitey

No, they should be talked with with respect that all humans deserve. Then send them a strongly worded letter.

/oughta work --no?

159 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:01:00pm

re: #108 Cartman
Goodnight my friend - sleep well!

160 ggt  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:01:21pm

Well, I have an early day tomorrow.

weet dreams all!

161 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:01:34pm

re: #155 Lawrior

Absolutely correct.

"The Toecutter! He knows who I am!"

162 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:01:48pm

re: #114 Pvt Bin Jammin
Hey PBJ! How are you this morning - er, late evening? Well, I hope!

163 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:01:50pm

Anyone else praying for rain in colorado on Thursday?

164 Archimedes  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:01:51pm

re: #135 Lawrior

Master Blaster and Aunt Entity battle for control of Bartertown in the future. Screw it, just read this.

lol ... One helluva reference. I'd forgotten about that. Sort of like a souped up Ratatouille. Biden would be the Rat and Obama the boy. Makes sense.

165 rawmuse  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:02:12pm

OK, here is my favorite word pet peeve.

The word "Incredible" has come to be used, in popular jargon, a positive thing, ("Mom, I just met this incredible guy!")
whereas, to me, it means lacking in credibility.

In other words, news you find on CBS is "incredible".

166 Syrah  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:03:53pm

re: #163 Typicalwhitey

Anyone else praying for rain in colorado on Thursday?

I would prefer a comfortably warm late summer day.

If the weather gets too foul, the entertainment from the protesters will stop. That would be a real shame.

167 tradewind  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:04:13pm

Wow.... speaking of Freedom and Doubt.......Feds really screwed up...
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

168 tradewind  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:05:02pm

re: #163 Typicalwhitey

They had three tornados in the Denver area today. Maybe we should tone it down some......

169 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:05:28pm

To bed, early doctors appointment in downtown Denver tomorrow.

If I see any wacky moonbat activity, I'll report back later in the day.

Night all.

Walter in Golden, Co.

170 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:05:50pm

re: #166 Syrah

Isn't the convention over on by Thursday? Probably praying for rain to wash the miasma of all the protesters who will probably be doing unspeakable things on the streets.

171 NY Nana  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:05:58pm

re: #156 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL, somewhere around here I have an old t-shirt that I got right after the LA riots. It says something like "Raped? Mugged? Need Help?....next time call "Rodney King", "The ACLU", "The Los Angeles Times". Don't think I ever had a chance to wear that shirt but I never will throw it away either.

/Sell it on Ebay!

172 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:06:04pm

re: #168 tradewind

Never!

173 tradewind  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:06:27pm

Me too....
Play nice, ya'll.

174 Kosh's Shadow  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:06:28pm

re: #1 Irene NYC

Olympics over. DNC starts tomorrow.

Let the games begin!
;)

Actually, it is a continuation of the Olympics with the
Lying and Stupidity events,
plus "listening to speeches" endurance test.

175 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:06:41pm

re: #170 BlueCanuck

Isn't the convention over on by Thursday? Probably praying for rain to wash the miasma of all the protesters who will probably be doing unspeakable things on the streets.

Isn't that when bambam speaks at Invesco?

176 Syrah  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:07:19pm

re: #169 Walter L. Newton

Take your camera.

177 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:07:24pm

Hey Wyatt you mad at me?

178 oldbennevis  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:07:53pm

Drudge calls it 'Freaky' but I call that picture of Madonna in the left hand column SCARY! Every time I've visited the Report tonight I've hoped it would be gone.

179 So?  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:08:20pm

Where there is too much doubt, there is fear.

---So?

180 Archimedes  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:08:20pm

re: #169 Walter L. Newton

To bed, early doctors appointment in downtown Denver tomorrow.

If I see any wacky moonbat activity, I'll report back later in the day.

Night all.

Walter in Golden, Co.

Scary to be in Denver this week. Good luck!

181 solomonpanting  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:09:53pm

New anti-Obama bumper sticker:

Keep the Change

182 Syrah  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:10:11pm

re: #170 BlueCanuck

For the protesters, it may or may not be. If they manage to really get themselves worked up, they could keep the tantrum tossing up till Friday.

What happens during the convention could bear on this as well. If Hillery manages to stage a coup, . . . well, all bets would be off.

183 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:10:12pm

re: #127 rawmuse
"He has toiled long in the garden." Indeed he has and while I haven't agreed with him on a number of significant issues, the fact is that there have been NO major terrorist attacks on the US since 9/11 and for that he truly deserves the credit (along, of course, with our Armed Forces).
Ya know, I still remember folks saying we shouldn't go into Afghanistan after bin Laden cause the Afghani's had fought the might Soviet Union for 10 years and beat them. So Bush says, basically, so effin' what and we took Afganistan in what - six weeks?
But having to deal with his own party (he's not conservative enough, he's not liberal enough, he's not well spoken etc etc) and all the frankly UnAmerican activities of the Dems, I'll bet he's glad to step down and get some well deserved rest.
And I think History will be kind to him.

184 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:10:19pm

Dont go here
its a kos diary.

But it is so damn funny!

185 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:10:22pm

re: #142 realwest

Saight, those IDer threads move way too fast. >_>

I was suggesting that the value of human life was relative because of evolution being proven, you asked "relative to what?" and I responded to that.

186 garycooper  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:11:05pm

re: #123 Walter L. Newton

Have a nice bidet!

187 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:11:11pm

re: #177 Typicalwhitey

Not at all, deary. Just saw that response.

I don't spank offenders . . . unless they're hot babes. Heh.

188 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:11:14pm

re: #181 solomonpanting

Zing!

/and upding

189 Temujin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:11:29pm

re: #157 realwest

Hey Irene, same here and we're supposed to get rain and heavy T-Storms starting Wednesday, when I get my tooth (or teeth) pulled.
Oh. Joy.

Look on the bright side, realwest.

Before you know it, the day will arrive when you can log on to LGF and not have to be greeted with a storm of inquiries about your teeth! Think what a relief that will be !

190 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:11:47pm

re: #160 ggt

Nite, GGT, 'weet dreams to you too.

191 Mel Lono  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:12:30pm

Not my Guitar Hero

Jimmy sold out to the Chicoms and he wasn't even close to the lip-synch the 7 yr. old did.

192 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:13:34pm

re: #145 Beth Hoffman
Hey, thanks for that. I note that you've been Registered since: Sep 23, 2004 at 11:06 am and that was your first comment!
Sure would like to hear more from you!

193 Kosh's Shadow  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:13:47pm

re: #184 Typicalwhitey

Dont go here
its a kos diary.

But it is so damn funny!

It is funny. He says

our party of saints, rebels, and great people vs. their party of oilmen, tragic psychopaths, and ruiners of entire branches of government.


when it is really the party of people with their heads up their asses (or in clouds of pot smoke) vs the party that actually has a clue of about how the world works.

194 NY Nana  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:13:56pm

re: #163 Typicalwhitey

Anyone else praying for rain in colorado on Thursday?

That, and also pestilence and frogs....just over the convention hall.

195 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:14:10pm

re: #171 NY Nana

LOL, maybe I really could get some money for that shirt.

196 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:14:45pm

Where there is doubt, there is freedom.

Tell the troofers, Chicken Littles.

/when in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout

197 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:14:45pm

re: #187 Wyatt Earp

Well I thought I had been picking on you too much and you were pouting LOL

198 TnTx13  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:14:50pm

re: #193 Kosh's Shadow

I was about to quote that same passage - so which one are we? I think I'll be a psychopath tonight!

199 rawmuse  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:14:54pm

re: #183 realwest

The job must just suck awful at times.
Plus, the American people (always anti-authoritarian) have nearly become completely ungovernable. We are all trying to live at the expense of one another. Government should not be doing half of the things it is involved in.

200 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:15:03pm

re: #162 realwest

I am well, thanks Realwest.

201 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:15:24pm

re: #197 Typicalwhitey

Now, how could I be mad at my lgfgf?

202 Kosh's Shadow  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:15:41pm

re: #187 Wyatt Earp

Not at all, deary. Just saw that response.

I don't spank offenders . . . unless they're hot babes. Heh.

The Castle Anthrax called; they need some discipline.

203 WayDownSouthInBama  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:15:43pm

re: #194 NY Nana

That, and also pestilence and frogs....just over the convention hall.


The convention IS the pestilence.

204 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:15:53pm

re: #193 Kosh's Shadow

They lost a city, man.
They lost a damn city!

I am laughing my ass off at that title

205 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:16:01pm

re: #150 Walter L. Newton ROTFLMAO! Thanks for the chuckles Walter!

206 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:16:25pm

re: #201 Wyatt Earp

As long as you don't forget that!
;)

207 NY Nana  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:16:35pm

re: #195 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL, maybe I really could get some money for that shirt.

You never know til you try! ;)

208 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:16:51pm

re: #202 Kosh's Shadow

Bawahahahahahaha!

209 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:17:04pm

re: #184 Typicalwhitey

Dont go here
its a kos diary.

But it is so damn funny!

Favorite line:

They don't care if people drown, they would rather have birthday cake and hugs. They don't care if people DROWN.

To which I respond...

210 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:17:45pm

re: #163 Typicalwhitey
"Anyone else praying for rain in colorado on Thursday?"
Not me!
I want a full-tilt boogie BLIZZARD! LOL!

211 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:18:58pm

re: #207 NY Nana

I have Halloween parties every year. I've thought about asking everyone to wear their most politically incorrect t-shirts some year. That one would be perfectly incorrect.

212 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:19:11pm

re: #209 laZardo

I can see him taking bong hits in between his paragraphs lol

213 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:20:16pm

re: #184 Typicalwhitey

I liked this paragraph:

It's not about shooting McCain in the foot with a BB-gun, he can laugh this stuff off, man. It's about US vs. THEM, our party of saints, rebels, and great people vs. their party of oilmen, tragic psychopaths, and ruiners of entire branches of government. We must destroy their whole party. Their whole party, their whole set of ideas, all their actions are bad.


I love how they see themselves. Hillary a saint? Obama a saint? Where are their saints?

214 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:20:29pm

If obambi loses in November I cannot wait to liveblog the koskiddies!

215 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:22:15pm

re: #212 Typicalwhitey

"Religion is the opium of the people! Marijuana is the plant of the people!"

216 solomonpanting  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:22:31pm

re: #214 Typicalwhitey

If After obambi loses in November I cannot wait to liveblog the koskiddies!

217 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:22:48pm

The real tragedy of this entire election season is that there are some lefties so divorced from reality that the DNC could nominate a trained rodent...(ah, wait, anyone check to see if Barack has a tail?) because they have built a reality for themselves that makes Bush/Cheney more evil than Iran/China/UBL/terrorists and anyone else you care to toss in. I can find about 46 things I could slam Bush on, but given the alternatives to leadership by someone we can count on to be consistent, I would vote for him a third time against the junior senator from Illinois and the Shrew.

I grow ever more concerned that win or lose these people (that might make up 1/3 of our nation) become ever more disconnected with reality. How do you have a rational conversation with someone that is an Obamaton? Will we need to get a 12 step program for these people? Where is Al Franken (a/k/a Stewart Smalley) when you need him?

Someone talk me down.

218 realwest  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:23:40pm

Well all y'all it's late and I gotta get some sleep!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

Goodnight, all.

219 Temujin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:23:53pm

re: #192 realwest

Hey, thanks for that. I note that you've been Registered since: Sep 23, 2004 at 11:06 am and that was your first comment!
Sure would like to hear more from you!

“The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.”

— Lao Tzu

220 Kosh's Shadow  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:23:58pm

re: #214 Typicalwhitey

If obambi loses in November I cannot wait to liveblog the koskiddies!

I'll report what the moonbats are like at work. At least, since they don't like guns, they won't be shooting themselves or anyone else.
(I work with real moonbats, including at least one Kos reader)

221 WayDownSouthInBama  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:23:59pm

re: #214 Typicalwhitey

The Kos Kids will blow up like a Graboid after swallowing dynamite if that happens.

222 TnTx13  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:25:28pm

re: #221 WayDownSouthInBama

I wanna see that!

223 rawmuse  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:25:28pm

re: #217 brainwizard73

We are dealing with Anti-Realists.

224 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:25:30pm

re: #217 brainwizard73
''

The nutjobs have always been there.
It's just without the internet, we didn't realize it.

I am doing everything I can to ensure that obambi will not be elected.

225 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:25:53pm

re: #217 brainwizard73

Where is Al Franken (a/k/a Stewart Smalley) when you need him?

Running for Senator.

IMHO if they lose the election, they'll probably end up being tomorrow's conservatives. Much in the same way that many of today's conservatives were yesterday's hippies.

There are still going to be a few who are "too far gone" who will probably rear their heads in a decade or two but eh, it's not like we're clamping down on their freedom of expression. (;

226 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:25:56pm

Anyone buying the spin on Biden; that he appeals to the white working class?

So does a tax cut, but we won't get that either.

227 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:26:08pm

re: #218 realwest

Cheers & Beers, buddy. (:

228 DesertSage  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:26:28pm

re: #211 Pvt Bin Jammin

I have Halloween parties every year. I've thought about asking everyone to wear their most politically incorrect t-shirts some year. That one would be perfectly incorrect.

Can I come? I have a really cool tee shirt

229 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:26:46pm

I'm out, folks. Exhausted from work and Typical Whitey's character assassination. ;)

Nite, all!

230 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:28:08pm

re: #223 rawmuse

We are dealing with Anti-Realists.

So when the Chinese tanks roll up on to the UC-Berkley campus and start killing people, these people will likely fall in line and start blaming America?

Wait, they do that now...hmmm.

231 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:28:11pm

re: #226 brainwizard73

Biden only apeals to Biden.
There are multiple instances of his heaping praise on McCain and there will be multiple ads highlighting this.

232 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:29:02pm

re: #223 rawmuse

We are dealing with Anti-Realists.

I've been saying that for years.

233 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:29:05pm

re: #229 Wyatt Earp

Good night Wyatt.....sweet dreams ;)

234 Syrah  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:29:06pm

re: #217 brainwizard73

Sorry, there is no talking you down.

You are correct.

One third of the public is completely off it's rocker, another third is fairly rational, and the last third swings back and forth between the other two.

It's going to get very exciting.

235 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:29:34pm

re: #224 Typicalwhitey

''

The nutjobs have always been there.
It's just without the internet, we didn't realize it.

I am doing everything I can to ensure that obambi will not be elected.

Yeah, but about 65% of the Obamanation should be regular people, nut just nutjobs. It can't be only nuts that are voting for this guy.

236 sparrowlake  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:30:10pm

re: #219 Temujin

“The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.”
— Lao Tzu

"With 10 miles behind me and 10,000 more to go."
- James Taylor
Good night you moonlight lizards.

237 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:31:19pm

re: #225 laZardo

I know, I passed the Franken booth at the Minnesota State Fair tonight. He had his poor daughter out shilling for him. I took one look at that set up and headed straight for the deep-fried twinkies.

I needed to get something tough that would stand up to pressure.

238 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:31:28pm

re: #236 sparrowlake

"First star to the right, and straight on 'till morning." - Dragonheart (IIRC)

Night, Sparrow. (:

239 WayDownSouthInBama  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:31:36pm

re: #222 TnTx13

Oh it'll happen if the Golden Child doesn't win. You're going to think every liberal in the nation has the T-virus for sure. They will not be able to deal with an Obama loss in a reasonable manner.

240 merrytexas  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:32:16pm

re: #23 Racer X

The Big Bang gets Clubbed To Death

Spark up a fat one and enjoy.

That was great!

re: #20 Typicalwhitey

Exclusive: Obama- Clinton feud reignites

I KNEW I should have bought stock in popcorn!

We can only wish. I still hope the Clintons have leverage, but I'm afraid they're using it to retire her debt with Obama's fundraising help.

Thank you both for those links!

241 Temujin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:32:32pm

re: #217 brainwizard73

The biggest problem I have had with Bush - from day one - has been his refusal to fight back.

And the situation that we are in today is the perfect illustration of why you can't just assume that you can ignore it when people say crazy things, & make crazy accusations. However lunatic this stuff appears on the surface, unless it is argued against, and refuted, some portion of it will stick.

242 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:32:38pm

re: #231 Typicalwhitey

Biden does seem a bit genuine, however. I will give him that. Egotistical in spades, but not afraid to say what he thinks. Of course, that is part (most?) of the problem, too.

243 TnTx13  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:32:53pm

re: #237 brainwizard73

I know, I passed the Franken booth at the Minnesota State Fair tonight. He had his poor daughter out shilling for him. I took one look at that set up and headed straight for the deep-fried twinkies.

Doesn't that count as child abuse? (How were the twinkies?)

244 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:33:20pm

re: #228 DesertSage

Perfect, just perfect. Of course you are invited, LOL, you would have loved to have seen Mr. Jammin and I dressed as hippies.....he had a 'fro, and it was natural, too.

245 rawmuse  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:33:31pm

re: #241 Temujin

I miss Tony Snow. He refuted bullshit, and did it nicely.

246 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:34:42pm

re: #242 brainwizard73

I don't think he helps that much.

Do you think that people will vote for obama and say oh well his vp has foreign policy chops?
They vote for the top of the ticket.

247 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:34:53pm

re: #245 rawmuse

I miss Tony Snow. He refuted bullshit, and did it nicely.

He was a class act. I miss him, too.

248 NY Nana  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:35:08pm

re: #211 Pvt Bin Jammin

That one would be perfectly incorrect.

Bzzzz. We have a winner! I want a picture of you wearing it, to use as evidence. ;)

249 rawmuse  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:35:40pm

Later, Lizards! goodnight!

250 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:35:50pm

re: #238 laZardo

"First star to the right, and straight on 'till morning." - Dragonheart (IIRC)

I think that's from Peter Pan.

251 NY Nana  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:36:15pm

re: #247 Pvt Bin Jammin

He was a class act. I miss him, too.

Same here. He was one in a million. I wonder how his family is doing.

252 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:36:27pm

re: #234 Syrah

Sorry, there is no talking you down.

You are correct.

One third of the public is completely off it's rocker, another third is fairly rational, and the last third swings back and forth between the other two.

It's going to get very exciting.

True.

Still, I do recall an election in 1984 in which there was, shall we say, a clear mandate of the electorate. I just wonder with your likely accurate description of the nation's voting blocks how that can ever happen again. I sincerely hope it will not take some horrible event to galvanize public support for a course of action.

We have Democrats that admit they gain if America gets its ass kicked in Iraq.

To quote Timon from the Lion King: "And everyone's OK with this? Did I miss something here?!?"

253 Temujin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:37:07pm

re: #245 rawmuse

I miss Tony Snow. He refuted bullshit, and did it nicely.

I agree. Tony was not one to accept their off-the-wall premises. RIP . . .

254 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:37:14pm

re: #249 rawmuse

'nite Muse & Thor. Hope tomorrow is a great day for you.

255 Inquisitive  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:37:17pm

Good night {real}

256 Colonel Panik  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:37:25pm

re: #226 brainwizard73

Anyone buying the spin on Biden; that he appeals to the white working class?

That's the biggest load of cosdwallop I've heard in a long time.

He certainly don't appeal to this high-tech redneck.

F rating from the NRA? Appeal to the white working class? I think not.

Biden is an elitist boob who is insufferably impressed with his own intelligence.
He ain't gonna play in Dixie, the Midwest or the Desert Mountain States.

257 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:38:09pm

re: #251 NY Nana

Same here. He was one in a million. I wonder how his family is doing.

I wonder, too. It breaks my heart to think about it.

258 lori lane  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:38:12pm

re: #124 Dasher

Anybody besides me having problems connecting to FreeRepublic.com ?

I've not been able to get it the past few hours either!

259 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:38:55pm

re: #241 Temujin

Right on. I hated that Bush finally got around to calling Islamofascism what it was, and then candy-assed out and changed the terminology to apease, who?

The Saudis? CAIR? Harry Reid? Why? What the hell, George?

260 Inquisitive  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:39:10pm

re: #249 rawmuse

Later, Lizards! goodnight!

Good night!

261 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:39:14pm

re: #237 brainwizard73

Since you brought up Franken (My (lack of) G-d! What an idiot!) I'm going to post this:

Blast From The Past

This was originally posted on a site that no longer exists except in the Internet Archive:

Daily Affirmations for your Inner Pirate
Once you've gotten in touch with your inner pirate, the job is not over. Remember to consult the Affirmations for your Inner Pirate:

Stuart Smalley's Daily Affirmations for the Inner Pirate

Monday:
"I'm going to rape and pillage today just for the heck of it because, gosh darn it, I deserve to have a good time."

Tuesday:
"I am not a fraud, a thief yes, but not a fraud."

Wednesday:
"I deserve all the loot and booty I can carry without feeling ashamed or being grandiose."

Thursday:
"I will express my feelings today. I will not hide them behind my eyepatch. My eyepatch is not a mask for my feelings, but rather a small swatch of leather that covers a hideous scar."

Friday:
"When I overtake that merchants vessel, I will not be playing those parent tapes in my head: "You wield a cutlass like a girl" . . . "Why can't you be more like Blackbeard's son?" . . . "Philosophy? What kind of major is that? It's useless!"

Saturday:
"Just because I indulge in wine and wenches does not mean I'm an alcoholic sex-addict like my father."

Sunday:
"If I must violently put down a mutiny today, it is not because I am a bad person or that I am not worthy of love; it is because my crew are a bunch of yellow-bellied, lily-livered sons-of-whores--and I am mean enough, ruthless enough, and dog gone it, people fear me."

transcribed by James R. Torrence

Arrrrrr...

262 DesertSage  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:39:40pm

re: #236 sparrowlake

"With 10 miles behind me and 10,000 more to go."
- James Taylor
Good night you moonlight lizards.

Ahhh.....Moonlight :')

263 Colonel Panik  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:40:26pm

re: #124 Dasher

Anybody besides me having problems connecting to FreeRepublic.com ?

The 'bats could be pulling a DOS attack on them. Wouldn't surprise me.
I can't get in right now.

264 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:40:57pm

#248 NY Nana

I will get you the picture. LOL I got it from a cop, not LAPD, but another agency. LOL

265 Temujin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:41:10pm

re: #256 Colonel Panik

Colonel ! Do you mean to say that you are unimpressed by the wonderfulness of Clueless Joe ?

I am shocked . . . shocked !

266 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:42:16pm

re: #243 TnTx13

I have seen his campaign booth and his group marching in several parades, but it is always his kids walking around shaking hands. There is a dopey follower in ever case holding a sign that says

I shit you not:

"This is _____ Franken, Al's son/daughter"

Yes, there really was a large sign with an arrow pointing at the daughter tonight. Like we want to meet someone's teenage kid or something...

Twinkies? Very rich.

267 Syrah  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:42:30pm

re: #252 brainwizard73

Reagan was different in that he did not cater to the middle, but tried to bring the middle over to his side.

Republicans need to believe in their agenda enough to actually be able to persuade people to follow them.

When Republicans move to the middle, they are conceding ground to the enemy. Big mistake. it makes their whole program that much more difficult to fight for, especially since it makes their faith in their own cause look doubtful.

268 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:43:10pm

re: #262 DesertSage

Nite Sage, 'weet dreams to you too!

269 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:43:13pm

re: #250 BlueCanuck

...oh.

270 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:43:37pm

Night all!

271 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:43:47pm

Well, I have no Idea, but I say McCain/Palin.

/Ol' Plugs can't touch that

272 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:43:58pm

re: #261 The Other Les

Advice to live by.

/sigh...

273 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:44:04pm

re: #256 Colonel Panik

Dick Morris says McCain should go with Kay Bailey Hutchinson to destroy the potential gender gap...

thoughts?

274 TnTx13  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:45:07pm

re: #266 brainwizard73

I wonder if anyone has ever gone up to one of the Franken kids and offered their condolences on having to grow up Franken...

275 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:45:28pm

re: #261 The Other Les

I think this is the DFL party's platform on government tax policy.

Where did YOU get it?

276 lori lane  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:45:46pm

re: #273 brainwizard73

Dick Morris says McCain should go with Kay Bailey Hutchinson to destroy the potential gender gap...
thoughts?

Oh no. I definitely don't like that option.

277 itellu3times  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:45:53pm

re: #273 brainwizard73

Dick Morris says McCain should go with Kay Bailey Hutchinson to destroy the potential gender gap...

thoughts?

She does toes?

278 Temujin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:46:03pm

re: #259 brainwizard73

Even at the beginning, Bush bought into the "extremist minority hijacking the ROP . . . " meme ; it was all downhill from there.

279 itellu3times  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:47:07pm

re: #238 laZardo

"First star to the right, and straight on 'till morning." - Dragonheart (IIRC)

Peter Pan to Wendy, I thinks.

280 Syrah  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:47:16pm

re: #274 TnTx13

I wonder if anyone has ever gone up to one of the Franken kids and offered their condolences on having to grow up Franken...

I would imagine that even if they did not like their dad's politics, they would find such "condolences" painfully offensive and more likely to affirm their loyalty to their dad.

281 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:47:39pm

re: #274 TnTx13

I know, but it would be better coming from another teenager/college student...not some 30-something jerk trying to keep his 5 year old from melting down because the GOP balloon he got at the Republican booth won't stay on his wrist.

Still, it could be that his kids are messed up and/or brainwashed...after all, Al says he did a lot of coke.

God bless them.

282 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:47:42pm

re: #275 brainwizard73

I think this is the DFL party's platform on government tax policy.

Where did YOU get it?

Well I was doing a search for something related to Schlock Mercenary when I stumbled on to it. The original site is gone so I only had the link to the Internet Archive site.

283 DesertSage  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:48:42pm

re: #273 brainwizard73

Dick Morris says McCain should go with Kay Bailey Hutchinson to destroy the potential gender gap...

thoughts?

Sarah Palin!

284 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:49:24pm

re: #267 Syrah

Good point. Reagan always believed in educating his opponents/undecideds on why his way was best. Not compromising just to get a few votes.

Wait, I think I just figured out how to be a successful politician in America!

285 TnTx13  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:49:32pm

re: #280 Syrah

re: #281 brainwizard73

Y'all are right - it's not their fault he's their dad...

286 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:50:12pm

re: #283 DesertSage

I really like her!

287 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:50:31pm

re: #276 lori lane

Why? Looking for some flesh for the bones.

288 Metal Man  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:50:42pm

re: #266 brainwizard73

That's just a wordy I'm with stupid sign IMO.

289 Temujin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:51:15pm

re: #273 brainwizard73

Dick Morris says McCain should go with Kay Bailey Hutchinson to destroy the potential gender gap...

thoughts?

Dick Morris is not bad as an analyst pointing out the soft spots in the Dems' defenses.

As a strategist for the Republicans ?

God defend me from my friends; from my enemies I can defend myself. — Proverb

290 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:51:20pm

re: #277 itellu3times

Didn't see it in her bio...will have to contact her office tomorrow.

291 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:51:24pm

re: #273 brainwizard73

Dick Morris says McCain should go with Kay Bailey Hutchinson to destroy the potential gender gap...

thoughts?

Sarah Palin

/hot, young mother of five pro-life Governor, lifetime member of the NRA, what more could you ask for?

292 Colonel Panik  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:51:44pm

re: #265 Temujin

Colonel ! Do you mean to say that you are unimpressed by the wonderfulness of Clueless Joe ?

I am shocked . . . shocked !

Have a Captain Renault moment are we? LOL.

293 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:54:55pm

re: #283 DesertSage

Sarah Palin!

In fact, now that I've thought about it . . .

/I'll be really pissed if "the Maverick" picks otherwise

294 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:55:20pm

re: #283 DesertSage

Sarah Palin!

Alright, Sage, I can see the attraction. Seriously, I can...

But help me out: Isn't Gov. Palin a newbie? Sure she is an executive and has some great story lines, but doesn't her inexperience hinder McCain's line on Obama not being up to the task? Then there is the fact that she has as poor name recognition in the rest of America and comes from a electorially light state.

I can see some of the good points here, but why couldn't another woman (not that there are a lot) be a better choice?

295 ciaospirit  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:57:09pm

Anyone watch the closing ceremonies? Was that a picture of Mao over Bob Costas' shoulder as he gushed in his closing remarks over how wonderful China is?

296 itellu3times  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:57:58pm

re: #295 ciaospirit

Anyone watch the closing ceremonies? Was that a picture of Mao over Bob Costas' shoulder as he gushed in his closing remarks over how wonderful China is?

I thought it was Bob.

297 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:58:54pm

re: #294 brainwizard73

I can see some of the good points here, but why couldn't another woman (not that there are a lot) be a better choice?

/maybe read her biography and mull it over a bit, who's a better choice?

298 DesertSage  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 10:59:23pm

re: #291 Killian Bundy

Sarah Palin

/hot, young mother of five pro-life Governor, lifetime member of the NRA, what more could you ask for?

Well....

She fishes
She hunts
She likes motorcycles
She can install siding
And she has great legs!

299 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:00:16pm

re: #289 Temujin

Dick Morris is not bad as an analyst pointing out the soft spots in the Dems' defenses.

As a strategist for the Republicans ?

God defend me from my friends; from my enemies I can defend myself. — Proverb

Well, much like Denny Green, I am not ready to "crown his ass", however, his central point was that Obama dropped the ball bigtime by not naming a woman as his running mate. Obama is running virturally even with McCain among women, and he shouldn't be.

Morris's point is that McCain can sweep in and really screw up BHO's demographic picture with a female VP. I think there is something to that, but is has to be the right woman. I can't be Olympia Snowe. It can't be Christie Whitman, and probably not even Condi Rice.

So if McCain can't find the right woman, it's moot anyway.

300 ciaospirit  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:00:51pm

re: #296 itellu3times

?

301 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:00:57pm

re: #295 ciaospirit

Dang, I missed it.....just the credits for me. I have had real mixed feelings about us even being over there for these Olympics. I saw the opening ceremonies, however, and I must admit that they were terrific.

302 ciaospirit  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:04:30pm

re: #301 Pvt Bin Jammin

Dang, I missed it.....just the credits for me. I have had real mixed feelings about us even being over there for these Olympics. I saw the opening ceremonies, however, and I must admit that they were terrific.

I saw a bit of the open. A bit more of the close. Too regimented. Like little bees in a bee colony. Everybody in lockstep. It reminded me of communism.

And somewhat boring, the close anyway.

303 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:04:42pm

re: #298 DesertSage

Well....

She fishes
She hunts
She likes motorcycles
She can install siding
And she has great legs!

/perfect choice, let's hope McCain's troops are reading this

304 solomonpanting  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:05:26pm

re: #295 ciaospirit

Anyone watch the closing ceremonies? Was that a picture of Mao over Bob Costas' shoulder as he gushed in his closing remarks over how wonderful China is?

I didn't see the closing ceremonies, but it must be the same shot of Mao I had seen during previous viewings. One person's founding father is another's mass murderer of tens of millions.

305 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:07:29pm

re: #298 DesertSage

re: #297 Killian Bundy

Alright. Like I said there is a lot to like...but she has been a governor only since 2006. Plus, I want to see her mix it up in debate or something before I crown her. I want to know that if McCain needs an attack dog (a typical role of a VP candidate) she can handle it. I want to know that she can handle Joe Biden and not get stuck looking like Joe Biden's silly little female cousin that no one listens to at Thanksgiving. Is she bad-ass enough?

See what I mean?

306 Colonel Panik  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:07:33pm

re: #273 brainwizard73

Dick Morris says McCain should go with Kay Bailey Hutchinson to destroy the potential gender gap...

thoughts?

If he's going with a woman I'd say Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. She can appeal to several constituencies at once. The PUMAS, the God, Guns and Guts and Huntin' and Fishin' folks and the drill here drill now pay less team. (Not all mutually exclusive by the way)

I don't know enough about KBH....she's from Texas right? I always confuse her and Christine Todd Whitman who is from Jersey and sort of RINOish IIRC.

Senator McCain, look NORTH TO ALASKA!

307 Colonel Panik  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:08:11pm

re: #295 ciaospirit

Anyone watch the closing ceremonies? Was that a picture of Mao over Bob Costas' shoulder as he gushed in his closing remarks over how wonderful China is?

Mao Costas? Bob Tse-Tung?

308 ciaospirit  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:09:27pm

re: #304 solomonpanting

I didn't see the closing ceremonies, but it must be the same shot of Mao I had seen during previous viewings. One person's founding father is another's mass murderer of tens of millions.

I know. It made me sick to see Costas gushing over China with a very distracting picture of Mao directly over his shoulder. Subliminal message...gee China is so wonderful thanks to good 'ole Mao. NBC could have cropped that picture tighter. As it was, the composition of the shot was weird. Too much headroom. Too wide for a talking head closing remarks shot. Makes me think NBC was required to include Mao in the shot.

309 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:09:30pm

re: #306 Colonel Panik

I will admit that KBH isn't the most electrifying choice...she reminds me a bit of Liz Dole, but I think her conservative credentials are solid.

See my #305 on Palin. I need to know she can handle the rough stuff.

310 Syrah  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:10:08pm

. . . maybe Obama's choice of Biden is part of his strategy to lock up all of those Delaware Electoral votes. . .

311 lori lane  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:10:32pm

re: #306 Colonel Panik

I don't know enough about KBH....she's from Texas right?

She just seems rather borrrrring.

312 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:10:39pm

re: #302 ciaospirit

Glad that I missed it then. This was probably the highlight of some of their lives. It just makes me sad/mad.

313 itellu3times  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:10:46pm

re: #300 ciaospirit

?

!

314 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:11:35pm

re: #310 Syrah

Right, he thinks he has all the other ones nailed...so why not.

Seriously, BHO is going to "battle ground states" over the next few days as the convention is opening up. He is going to Billings, Montana.

Any way Montana goes blue? NFW, right?

315 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:12:24pm

re: #311 lori lane

She just seems rather borrrrring.

Morris mentions that, and it might be true...but the logic seemed interesting.

316 Colonel Panik  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:13:00pm

re: #302 ciaospirit

I saw a bit of the open. A bit more of the close. Too regimented. Like little bees in a bee colony. Everybody in lockstep. It reminded me of communism.

I saw the opening in an airport bar in Salt Lake City (I know what some of you lizards are thinking, yes, you can buy beer in Utah, it's not frickin' Saudi Arabia) and those were my thoughts exactly.

Communism with a high tech, high "production values" as they say in the TV biz gloss, which made it all the more frightning than simply a bunch of Mao jacket clad Kalashnikov toters waving the red book.

Unlike Kruschev these people may actually bury us.

317 ciaospirit  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:13:15pm

re: #313 itellu3times

That was funny.

318 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:13:19pm

re: #312 Pvt Bin Jammin

Glad that I missed it then. This was probably the highlight of some of their lives. It just makes me sad/mad.

Hey, if they screwed up it meant they got sent to Mongolia and thier families starved...it kind of put a damper on things.

319 Temujin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:14:11pm

re: #299 brainwizard73

I frankly think that sort of strategizing is, as they say, "too clever by half". It's great material for the 24/7 cable shows to chew over . . . & over . . . & over . . . but I seriously doubt that such considerations will be decisive for many voters on November 4th.

Just my $ 0.02 -

320 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:14:17pm

re: #305 brainwizard73

See what I mean?

No! You've read her biography, now imagine her and Ol' Plugs in a debate, what are they going to talk about? It's slam dunk Republican!

/what's Ol' Plugs going to do, try and bully her?

321 TnTx13  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:14:22pm

re: #316 Colonel Panik

I saw the opening in an airport bar in Salt Lake City (I know what some of you lizards are thinking, yes, you can buy beer in Utah, it's not frickin' Saudi Arabia) and those were my thoughts exactly.

Communism with a high tech, high "production values" as they say in the TV biz gloss, which made it all the more frightning than simply a bunch of Mao jacket clad Kalashnikov toters waving the red book.

Unlike Kruschev these people may actually bury us.

And there are a whole lot more of them than there were Soviets.

322 pbird  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:14:22pm

re: #238 laZardo

"First star to the right, and straight on 'till morning." - Dragonheart (IIRC)

Night, Sparrow. (:

Sounds more like Peter Pan.

323 Mel Lono  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:16:05pm

re: #308 ciaospirit

Makes me think NBC was required to include Mao in the shot.


i'm told that GE, which owns NBC, owes a lot of money to the Chinese and have been told by their noteholders to do the two-step. Anecdotal evidence only.

324 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:16:29pm

re: #305 brainwizard73

she has been a governor only since 2006.

/much like Obama, only he isn't a Governor

325 Syrah  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:16:37pm

re: #312 Pvt Bin Jammin

In the span of the last fifty years, they have seen their country change from one of mass starvation and grinding poverty to one that is richer than any of them have ever experienced, all under "Communist" leadership.

From their perspective, the "communist" have made them rich, even if they can not freely speak their mind. They may be persuaded to think it a small price to pay for a full belly and material gain.

326 ciaospirit  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:17:55pm

re: #316 Colonel Panik

Unlike Kruschev these people may actually bury us.

They are roughly one fifth of the world population. And all the gushing just reinforces the Chinese government's stance that communism is the way to go. We've got Libs over here who wholeheartedly agree. Heck, NBC made it sound like paradise.

327 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:18:39pm

re: #320 Killian Bundy

No! You've read her biography, now imagine her and Ol' Plugs in a debate, what are they going to talk about? It's slam dunk Republican!

/what's Ol' Plugs going to do, try and bully her?

Sure, he will bully her and unless she handles it right, it could work. She could kick his ass, but she has to handle it the right way. I want proof she can/has done so in the past.

Imagine a Biden/Palin debate:

Biden will talk about himself. Obama. Himself. His plan for a three-state Iraq. Himself. His ideas for "cracking down on oil profits". Himself.

Palin will talk about everything else.

By the end of things viewers will wonder why he isn't the messiah and why she isn't running the country.

328 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:19:20pm

re: #318 brainwizard73

I'll bet they still do that.

329 laZardo  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:19:23pm

Gonna head to the gym. Bbl.

330 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:21:34pm

re: #324 Killian Bundy

/much like Obama, only he isn't a Governor

But the inexperience card is one that McCain is going to hammer. How can he explain that BHO isn't ready to be President if his VP choice (a heartbeat away) has even less elected experience?

Yes, she is an executive, but it's Alaska...sorry, just not that much going on, right? What are her accomplishments, then too? See where I am going with this?

331 ciaospirit  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:23:23pm

The Olympics succeeded in giving communism a face lift it shouldn't have gotten and doesn't deserve.

332 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:24:34pm

re: #325 Syrah

I agree with you but sad none the less. I wonder how long before they go for Taiwan?

333 brainwizard73  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:24:55pm

Good night everyone. Off to have dreams of Sarah Palin as VP and see how that fits in my universe.

334 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:25:20pm

re: #327 brainwizard73

Sure, he will bully her and unless she handles it right, it could work. She could kick his ass, but she has to handle it the right way. I want proof she can/has done so in the past. .

Well, you're not going to get any assurances before Friday. The choice couldn't be more clear cut. McCain/Palin.

/Kay Bailey Hutchison, Carly Fiorina?

335 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:25:54pm

re: #331 ciaospirit

A wish I could give you a zillion up-dings.

336 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:26:54pm

re: #330 brainwizard73

Yes, she is an executive, but it's Alaska...sorry, just not that much going on, right? What are her accomplishments, then too? See where I am going with this?

Who's your pick?

/t-minus five days

337 DesertSage  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:27:06pm

re: #330 brainwizard73

But the inexperience card is one that McCain is going to hammer. How can he explain that BHO isn't ready to be President if his VP choice (a heartbeat away) has even less elected experience?

Yes, she is an executive, but it's Alaska...sorry, just not that much going on, right? What are her accomplishments, then too? See where I am going with this?

It's just the opposite of what nObama did. He picked a guy who had 30+ years of experience to offset his lack thereof.
McCain has the experience, what he needs is a young, fresh face. Palin brings the youth that McCain is lacking. Plus, she'll help pick off the disgruntled Hillary supporters who are already leaning toward McCain. This would just give them the perfect excuse to abandon nObama.

338 Syrah  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:27:31pm

re: #314 brainwizard73

Right, he thinks he has all the other ones nailed...so why not.

Seriously, BHO is going to "battle ground states" over the next few days as the convention is opening up. He is going to Billings, Montana.

Any way Montana goes blue? NFW, right?

At this point, I think that the more Obama speaks, the more he drops in the polls.

I am reminded of all of the "Star Wars" product marketing that was done for third film Return of the Jedi. It all made me begin to hate Star Wars and it only increased my revulsion of the "cuddly cuteness" injected into the films.

Obama is overexposed and he can't go on vacation. He is doomed to continue and exacerbate his overexposure until Nov. 4th.

I am not breaking out the champaign yet but it is starting to look better than I thought it would some months ago.

339 Colonel Panik  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:28:14pm

re: #333 brainwizard73

Good night everyone. Off to have dreams of Sarah Palin as VP and see how that fits in my universe.

I'll see if I can talk her into grilling you up a salmon and some mooseburgers.

340 Syrah  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:28:21pm

re: #332 Pvt Bin Jammin

I agree with you but sad none the less. I wonder how long before they go for Taiwan?

Nov. 4th will be a determining factor.

Would a President Obama do squat for Taiwan?

341 Temujin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:28:25pm

re: #333 brainwizard73

Sweet dreams, brainwizard73. Don't ponder it too long . . . at the end of the day, these VP picks don't determine the outcomes of our elections. G'night -

342 Tigger2005  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:29:25pm

I'm liking this offensive by the Philippine military against the Muslim rebels in the South. The rebels called for an end to the offensive and instead the government intensifies the attacks. I hope they keep going until they simply stamp out the rebels completely. Muslims do not need an "autonomous" region, they can just be part of the Philippines like everyone else.

Aren't the Filipinos lucky they can deal with this situation firmly and nobody pays attention. If only Israel had it so good.

343 Colonel Panik  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:30:09pm

re: #338 Syrah

I am reminded of all of the "Star Wars" product marketing that was done for third film Return of the Jedi. It all made me begin to hate Star Wars and it only increased my revulsion of the "cuddly cuteness" injected into the films.

Got any recipes for blaster-roasted Ewok?

I hear they taste like chicken.

344 Syrah  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:32:26pm

re: #343 Colonel Panik

Got any recipes for blaster-roasted Ewok?

I hear they taste like chicken.

Garlic. Lots of garlic. Almost anything can be made to taste wonderful with enough garlic.

345 DesertSage  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:32:40pm

re: #338 Syrah

CNN has the race tied, 47-47

I'll never count McCain out. He made a spectacular comeback in the primaries. He had been counted out after finishing a distant 3rd in Iowa.

346 Tigger2005  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:34:08pm

re: #325 Syrah

In the span of the last fifty years, they have seen their country change from one of mass starvation and grinding poverty to one that is richer than any of them have ever experienced, all under "Communist" leadership.

From their perspective, the "communist" have made them rich, even if they can not freely speak their mind. They may be persuaded to think it a small price to pay for a full belly and material gain.

They all know it's not communism that got them where they are, it was autocratic capitalism. They could be a hell of a lot richer (like Russia could be) if they were democratic and truly a free-market capitalist society.

IMO, China is going to slide back into poverty. Their pollution problem is severe and is going to hurt them for a long time to come.

347 ciaospirit  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:34:49pm

It's a bitch not being able to sleep. Although most lizards seem to have wandered off to lullabye land.

348 Syrah  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:35:36pm

re: #346 Tigger2005

They all know it's not communism that got them where they are, it was autocratic capitalism. They could be a hell of a lot richer (like Russia could be) if they were democratic and truly a free-market capitalist society.

IMO, China is going to slide back into poverty. Their pollution problem is severe and is going to hurt them for a long time to come.

When China slides back into poverty, they people will blame the communist.

Revolution.

349 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:35:41pm

re: #337 DesertSage

You'll agree that we came to the exact same conclusion almost simultaneously without consulting each other, right?

/we need Scooter Boy to seal the Palin deal

350 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:35:50pm

re: #340 Syrah
Would a President Obama do squat for Taiwan?

Uh, uh, maybe he would just, uh, invite the Chinese to the, uh, white house to discuss the, uh, situation.

351 itellu3times  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:36:21pm

re: #347 ciaospirit

It's a bitch not being able to sleep. Although most lizards seem to have wandered off to lullabye land.

It's still early in the evening for this west coast lizard, tho I have to leave the keyboard for a while, maybe back before bagging it.

352 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:37:39pm

re: #336 Killian Bundy

Who's your pick?

/t-minus five days

/crickets

353 Temujin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:38:14pm

re: #345 DesertSage

The fundamental problem is this: 2008 is not shaping up to be a reality-based election year.

That's just another way to say: anything can happen.

Tighten your seatbelt . . .

354 DesertSage  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:39:19pm

re: #349 Killian Bundy

You'll agree that we came to the exact same conclusion almost simultaneously without consulting each other, right?

/we need Scooter Boy to seal the Palin deal

You are correct, we did NOT consult each other.
Sarah Palin's name comes up a lot on other forums also. I think...I hope...that McCain is taking notice!

Who's "scooter boy"?

355 pat  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:39:27pm

Hawaii has 5 Golds, at least 2 silvers. Just saying. LOL.
And BTW, we won the Little League Championship today. For a little State, we rock.

356 pat  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:40:05pm

re: #331 ciaospirit

Yup

357 Syrah  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:40:20pm

re: #350 Pvt Bin Jammin

Would a President Obama do squat for Taiwan?

Uh, uh, maybe he would just, uh, invite the Chinese to the, uh, white house to discuss the, uh, situation.

So we should ask our Democrat friends if they think that an Obama presidency would invite a War in the Pacific over Taiwan and if they are "OK" with being instrumental in that and all of its implications. Be polite. Let them answer whatever, give them time to think on it.

358 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:41:45pm

re: #355 pat

I saw the beginning of the Little League championship but not the end. Congratulations to those kids.

359 Colonel Panik  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:42:04pm

re: #347 ciaospirit

It's a bitch not being able to sleep. Although most lizards seem to have wandered off to lullabye land.

I've got things I need to do for work and I'm still posting here.

The ChiCom Olympics Opening reminded me of this insurance commercial that pokes fun at Kim Jong-Il.

You don't want to be tooth sign guy.

360 LeePro  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:42:41pm

re: #344 Syrah

Garlic. Lots of garlic. Almost anything can be made to taste wonderful with enough garlic.

BAM!

361 Colonel Panik  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:44:19pm

re: #350 Pvt Bin Jammin

Would a President Obama do squat for Taiwan?

Uh, uh, maybe he would just, uh, invite the Chinese to the, uh, white house to discuss the, uh, situation.

Hell, he'd probably invite them to Oahu to liberate the islands from the oppressive haole.

362 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:46:58pm

re: #357 Syrah

I'll have to try that. LOL We go to this little restaurant/bar where a lot of libs hang out. My hubby is always engaging them. I'll just have to try and get him to be polite & give them time.

363 ciaospirit  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:47:17pm

re: #348 Syrah

When China slides back into poverty

Wishful thinking I'm afraid. Much as I'd like it to be so.

364 pat  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:47:50pm

re: #358 Pvt Bin Jammin

I saw the beginning of the Little League championship but not the end. Congratulations to those kids.

As I remember, you are a Hawaii girl, this team was from Waipio, not too far from where you grew up. Unless I am confused. And that could be true.

365 Temujin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:47:51pm

re: #357 Syrah

That sounds reasonable, but it is utterly beside the point.

Anything the Dems have to say at this point is only useful as an indicator of what they think is likely to win this election for them. They will deal with other considerations later.

366 ciaospirit  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:48:03pm

re: #359 Colonel Panik

That's hilarious. No, I don't want to be tooth sign guy!

367 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:48:04pm

re: #354 DesertSage

Who's "scooter boy"?

/we talking helmets here?

368 LeePro  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:49:03pm

re: #350 Pvt Bin Jammin

Would a President Obama do squat for Taiwan?

Uh, uh, maybe he would just, uh, invite the Chinese to the, uh, white house to discuss the, uh, situation.

uh...

LOL!

369 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:50:30pm

re: #364 pat

Sorry, Pat, born in Calif and raised in Nev but my brother lived in Hawaii for a number of years. I love Hawaii. Proud of those kids, though.

370 Syrah  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:51:22pm

re: #362 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'll have to try that. LOL We go to this little restaurant/bar where a lot of libs hang out. My hubby is always engaging them. I'll just have to try and get him to be polite & give them time.

With this, it is the question that is more important than is their answer. What ever their answer is, no matter how offensive it might be, it would be best to shrugged it off and not respond at all. It is the kind of question that would work on them on the margin of their thoughts, like a worry that won't go away.

Changing minds takes time.

371 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:52:01pm

re: #368 LeePro

Uh, how are you doing, LeePro? Good to see you.

372 Colonel Panik  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:52:11pm

Anybody still having trouble getting in to Free Republic?

I think the aidemydni hackers have staged a DOS them. I still can't get in.

373 Syrah  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:52:12pm

re: #365 Temujin

Very true. See #370.

374 pat  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:52:19pm

re: #369 Pvt Bin Jammin

Sorry, mistaken here. Off to bed.

375 Mel Lono  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:53:39pm

re: #352 Killian Bundy

Not my pic.... but it's Lieberman.

376 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:54:51pm

re: #370 Syrah

That's what I always tell my hubby. I think he could win a few minds if he would not come on so strong and just leave it at the question.

377 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:55:23pm

re: #375 Mel Lono

Not my pic.... but it's Lieberman.

/and that's automatic defeat

378 LeePro  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:56:06pm

re: #367 Killian Bundy

/we talking helmets here?

Um...
You said,

re: #349 Killian Bundy

You'll agree that we came to the exact same conclusion almost simultaneously without consulting each other, right?

/we need Scooter Boy to seal the Palin deal

I'd like to know who "scooter boy" is, too.

379 Syrah  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:56:21pm

re: #363 ciaospirit

Wishful thinking I'm afraid. Much as I'd like it to be so.

That may be so. We know from experience that business cycles have their ups and downs. For the Chinese, their growth has been so tremendous that they have not really experienced a long term economic downturn as we have.

How will the people react to it?

Will their government do something stupid to exacerbate it?

Lots of unknowns.

380 DesertSage  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:56:58pm

This just might be our next Vice President.

No doubt nObama didn't pick him for his rhythm.

381 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:56:59pm

If any west coast folks are still interested, it looks like we are getting a recap and some of the closing ceremony of the Olympics on NBC.

382 NY Nana  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:58:35pm

re: #228 DesertSage

Can I come? I have a really cool tee shirt



OK, that makes 2 pictures I want! BTW, I ♥ your avatar!

383 LeePro  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:59:21pm

re: #371 Pvt Bin Jammin

Uh, how are you doing, LeePro? Good to see you.

Eating a little better... still feels like a mouthful of Mack truck, tho.

:/

384 Mel Lono  Sun, Aug 24, 2008 11:59:54pm

re: #377 Killian Bundy

/and that's automatic defeat

He's already lost us. Why not solidfy the Senate defeat?

385 Killian Bundy  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:00:44am

I mean, if McCain is considering T Paw . . . .

/Sarah Palin is all that and more, without all the embarrassing metrosexuality

386 NY Nana  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:02:31am

re: #383 LeePro

Eating a little better... still feels like a mouthful of Mack truck, tho.

:/

And I want a picture of that! The almost 2-year old adores anything that has a truck, digger, fire engine, train, etc. on it.

Got to say g'nite!

Sweet dreams, all!

387 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:02:54am

re: #383 LeePro

Glad you are a little better but I'll bet you can't wait to bite into a nice steak.

/In the meantime, sloppy joes in honor of Biden? We had them tonight.

388 Temujin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:02:58am

re: #373 Syrah

Very true. See #370.

“Changing minds takes time.”

I would not dream of disputing you on that point.

However, that is not the only consideration if you hope to change minds, imho. For example, merely to mention one other aspect, there needs to be a certain willingness on the opposing side to consider additional information.

I may be wrong, but I'm not seeing that here . . .

389 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:03:37am

re: #386 NY Nana

'nite, Nana. Take care.

390 LeePro  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:05:25am

re: #386 NY Nana

'nite, { { {Nana} } }!
'weet dreams!

391 NY Nana  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:06:58am

re: #389 Pvt Bin Jammin

Thanks, Sgt! All of a sudden the computer problem with LGF has cleared up! Weirdest thing I ever saw!

Sweet dreams! Yipes! It is after 3AM here.

392 Killian Bundy  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:07:14am

re: #378 LeePro

I'd like to know who "scooter boy" is, too.

Think really hard.

/who's recently been teased about helmets?

393 Colonel Panik  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:07:47am

re: #385 Killian Bundy

I mean, if McCain is considering T Paw . . . .

Polenta. Bland Bland Bland.

394 LeePro  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:08:05am

re: #387 Pvt Bin Jammin

Working up to the steak thing, but cannot bring myself to do anything 'in honor' of Joe Slimen.

/snort!

395 Temujin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:08:35am

re: #391 NY Nana

'Tis the Hour of the Hildebeast . . .

396 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:08:56am

re: #391 NY Nana

I just saw your e-mail. That is totally weird. Glad the problem has stopped.

397 DesertSage  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:10:25am

re: #392 Killian Bundy

Think really hard.

/who's recently been teased about helmets?

Ohhhhh.....now I understand.
He's a T Paw fan? Ill have to have a talk with him.

398 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:11:04am

re: #394 LeePro

What a blowhard he is. I'll tell you, I can't even believe that the Obama camp picked him.

399 LeePro  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:11:21am

re: #392 Killian Bundy

Think really hard.

/who's recently been teased about helmets?

Geez, Killian. Sage and I both asked you a simple question. I don't feel like pulling on work boots just to get an answer.

Fergit it!

400 NY Nana  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:13:08am

re: #390 LeePro

'nite, { { {Nana} } }!
'weet dreams!

{{{ Leepro }}}

Here's back atcha!

401 LeePro  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:14:16am

re: #398 Pvt Bin Jammin

What a blowhard he is. I'll tell you, I can't even believe that the Obama camp picked him.

Reason #1: He won the "Suck-Up" contest! What he does best.

402 Killian Bundy  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:15:08am

re: #393 Colonel Panik

Polenta. Bland Bland Bland.

My bad.

/Sarah Palin is way more than T-Paw, without all the bland embarrassing metrosexuality

403 DesertSage  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:15:23am

re: #399 LeePro

Lee, it makes perfect sense now. Noam is the only one here who rides a scooter (I think?) and he lives in Minnesota. So he would be a fan of the Governor there.

We need to get him on board with the Sarah Palin plan.

404 NY Nana  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:17:51am

re: #395 Temujin

'Tis the Hour of the Hildebeast . . .

Thanks a lot, pal! Now I will have horrific nightmares, and it is all your fault!

405 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:18:18am

Russian parliament recognizing independance of Georgian breakaway regions. It gets worse folks.

406 LeePro  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:19:21am

re: #403 DesertSage

Lee, it makes perfect sense now. Noam is the only one here who rides a scooter (I think?) and he lives in Minnesota. So he would be a fan of the Governor there.

We need to get him on board with the Sarah Palin plan.

Thanks!

You're right about that. BTW, i like your logic up-thread ⤴ about how Pain just may siphon off large chunks of disappointed Hillaryites!

407 NY Nana  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:20:09am

re: #396 Pvt Bin Jammin

Starting up again..Got to go to sleep.

See ya later, alligators lizards!

408 yochanan  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:21:58am

re: #33 Walter L. Newton

I was thinking more on the line...

Master-Blaster 08

master/baiter 08

409 DesertSage  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:22:14am

Al Jazeera weighs in on the Biden nomination.

410 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:22:35am

re: #407 NY Nana

Hopefully stinky will fix it by morning.

411 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:24:08am

re: #408 yochanan

Wrong, oh so wrong.

/and probably oh so correct.

412 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:26:55am

Later, Lizards. Have a great day tomorrow. I need to sleep.

413 Killian Bundy  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:27:20am

Sarah Palin doesn't have a magic underwear problem that lots of reliable GOP voters don't like.

/it is what it is, no one said America is fair or rational

414 NY Nana  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:27:58am

re: #410 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hopefully stinky will fix it by morning.

Stinky can fix anything! He really ought to ask for a pay raise.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

I am sleep-typing. Hey, this is fun!

¡Muy buenas noches!

415 Syrah  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:29:12am

re: #388 Temujin

It may have no affect at all. Some uber leftist are just too far gone to understand or even care that their vote could have negative and potentially deadly consequences.

The targets here are those that still have enough of a mind to think with and enough of a conscience to understand that the consequences of their actions are more important than are their intentions for them.

People are always more on their guard against quick silver bullet arguments against their weltanschuung then they are the arguments that take time to grow in their mind.

Sowing doubt and assigning responsibility are part of the persuasion game. They do not work on a person instantly, they work over time. Time is our ally as long as we are confident in our goals.

416 Syrah  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:29:50am

re: #395 Temujin

'Tis the Hour of the Hildebeast . . .

I hope she tries something.

417 Sylvester_T_Cat  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:32:20am

re: #372 Colonel Panik

Anybody still having trouble getting in to Free Republic?

I think the aidemydni hackers have staged a DOS them. I still can't get in.

They do look like they're down atm.

418 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:32:32am

re: #414 NY Nana

Hasta la vista, Nana.

419 Killian Bundy  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:35:17am

re: #405 lifeofthemind

Russian parliament recognizing independance of Georgian breakaway regions. It gets worse folks.

I doubt they'll insist on redrawing world maps.

/Russia's not doing anything they said they wouldn't do last month, we warned Georgia not to stick their finger in the light socket

420 LeePro  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:38:55am

re: #412 Pvt Bin Jammin

re: #414 NY Nana

G'nite to both of you!

My bedtime, too!
  ¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n

G'nite {Beloved ❤ Lizards}!

421 Temujin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:43:36am

re: #415 Syrah

“Time Is On My Side”, by the Stones, was a hit back when I was still in my teens, iirc!

I'm not sayin' you're wrong, Syrah . . . more like, I grow weary. Seen this movie before, it hasn't been improved by the new cast and clever rewrites . . .

422 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:46:06am

Night {LeePro} sleep well.

/been real busy lurking tonight.

423 Temujin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:49:52am

re: #422 BlueCanuck

been real busy lurking tonight.

Right, Blue.

Like nobody noticed you were there.

/Eyeless in Ottawa . . .

424 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:53:54am

re: #423 Temujin

I had some stuff to say, but not much. Sometimes the best work is done from the shadows.

/who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? . . . . . .

425 yochanan  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:56:23am

re: #424 BlueCanuck

the shadow do

426 Temujin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 12:56:44am

re: #424 BlueCanuck

who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? . . . . . .

“There are things man was not meant to know.” — H. P. Lovecraft

427 Syrah  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:02:29am

re: #421 Temujin

Gotterdammerung is still a ways off.

Between now and then we can do what little is in our power to do.

My own personal worldview is very distopic and extremely pessimistic. Even so, I will fight in my small way for every inch and yard that I can manage, or at the least, try to make the other side have to do the same.

Succumbing too easily would be both a shame and a sin.

428 Temujin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:03:19am

BlueCanuck, if you don't mind telling me, do you watch a lot of films?

If so, I have another question I'd like to ask you . . .

429 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:06:29am

re: #428 Temujin

I have watched a few. Ask away.

430 yochanan  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:06:50am

good nite/morning folks.

431 Temujin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:07:17am

re: #427 Syrah

I agree wholeheartedly.

“Never give in - never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.” — Winston Churchill, speech at Harrow (10-29-1941)

/fwiw ...

432 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:07:47am

Hi lizards.........this upcoming week's non-stop Obambi love-fest in the MSM is going to make me nostlagic for the Olympics.

Did I miss anything?

433 Syrah  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:12:18am

Goodnight all.

The morning comes too swiftly.

434 Temujin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:19:07am

re: #429 BlueCanuck

I've been trying to determine what film it was where one of the actors used the quote, "Don't start no shit, won't be no shit." I had thought I remembered that line being delivered by Will Smith in the film Independence Day . Well, I saw that film again only a few hours ago, & surprise! No scene where Will Smith (or anyone else) said that. I've also checked a few other films by looking at the IMDb "memorable quotes" sections (Men In Black I & II, Bad Boys I & II, Pulp Fiction ) ; nada. Got any ideas ?

435 TheMatrix31  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:21:46am

re: #434 Temujin

I've been trying to determine what film it was where one of the actors used the quote, "Don't start no shit, won't be no shit." I had thought I remembered that line being delivered by Will Smith in the film Independence Day . Well, I saw that film again only a few hours ago, & surprise! No scene where Will Smith (or anyone else) said that. I've also checked a few other films by looking at the IMDb "memorable quotes" sections (Men In Black I & II, Bad Boys I & II, Pulp Fiction ) ; nada. Got any ideas ?


Just did a search on Yahoo and it seems to be some lyrics for a rap song.

436 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:22:39am

re: #434 Temujin

Sorry, can't help you with that one. Now that one is going to bother me for a couple of days. :)

437 Temujin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:24:39am

re: #435 TheMatrix31

Several rap songs , actually - but I have a very strong memory of someone using that line in a movie.

438 TheMatrix31  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:29:23am

Now that you mention it, it DOES ring a bell movie-wise.

Hmm, I'll do some investigating.

439 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:32:10am

How about the line "I am Godzilla! YOU are Japan!"......?

/anyone?

440 TheMatrix31  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:32:13am

I just searched and found a few guys in other forums mentioning how it's a part of Independence Day, so it must be from there.

441 Temujin  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:34:44am

re: #435 TheMatrix31

Damn ! by The Youngbloodz
Souljas by Master P
Ward Bangin' by L.O.G./Fila Phil
True To This Shit by Papoose

and

Don't Start No Shit by Mia X

all contain that phrase or a close variant.

And I'm sure there are more . . .

442 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 25, 2008 1:36:15am