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Penn and Teller: World Peace

Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:33:46 pm PDT

Searching for world peace, Penn and Teller encounter Cindy Sheehan, Code Pink, and the United Nations. Chainsaws and hatchets ensue. (Language warning.)

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1 Racer X  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:34:59pm

World Peace?

Bullshit!

2 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:35:27pm

Bullshit follows up bullshit. Perfect!

3 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:40:54pm

They shot the dove!

4 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:41:06pm

Penn & Teller are making a very strong case for non-idiotarians of the year.

5 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:41:37pm

I can visualize whirled peas, but they're too small to throw at the she-hag

6 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:42:02pm

Watched this last week. Spot on and funny, as usual.

Hooray for capitalism!

7 Defector01  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:42:12pm

I love these guys and I love that they hit everyone and everything equally.

8 unclassifiable  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:42:39pm

Penn and Teller in 2012!

The No More Bullshit Party needs your support!

9 sngnsgt  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:44:25pm

re: #1 Racer X

World Peace?

Bullshit!

Whirrled Peas!

10 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:45:20pm

I really liked the opening credits. Well done.

11 nyc redneck  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:46:11pm

we've never had wold peace.
the closest we'll get is when a democracy like america maintains superior fire power.

12 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:46:46pm

Why doesn't the show's title get a tag link? :0

13 Karridine  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:48:33pm

World Peace? Bangkok is rioting...

14 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:50:57pm

Oh goody.

Witty Rationality vs. Smug Irrationality.

Who will win? Who would think there'd be any doubt as to the outcome?

15 Defector01  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:51:27pm

World Peace is not just an absence of conflict but an absence on tension between nations

HIghly unlikely

16 Racer X  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:52:16pm

P&T hit the pink fucking nail squarely on the head.

Nice job!

17 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:54:00pm

"Cindy against the 'war machine'"!

18 Killian Bundy  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:54:09pm

Rice Wants More Israeli Goodwill Terrorist Releases

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says that Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's freeing of nearly 200 Arab terrorists the day before was a "good step" but not enough. "Obviously there is more that needs to be done… Both sides continue to have work to do," she told reporters before landing at Ben Gurion Airport on Tuesday.

However, her only specific suggestions were aimed at Israel, which she said should remove more roadblocks and checkpoints, which were set up in Judea and Samaria to prevent unrestricted mobility for terrorists. She made no comments on obligations by the Palestinian Authority (PA) to fight terror but previously has said its American-trained police forces are proving it can maintain law and order.

/tell her to [expletive deleted] right off!

19 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:56:13pm
Chainsaws and hatchets ensue.


Nice!

20 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:57:25pm

re: #18 Killian Bundy

Rice Wants More Israeli Goodwill Terrorist Releases

/tell her to [expletive deleted] right off!

Notice no one says "Bush is a great friend of Israel" any more. Bush should demand her resignation; he is ruining his legacy.

21 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:57:45pm

I'm waiting for them to mention that Code Pink isn't so much about stopping war, they are about stopping the US.

They are just fine with war waged by terrorists. And Code Pink backs that up by giving money to terrorists.

22 Cognito  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 8:58:02pm

I've finished the first video. Love it so far.

A thoroughly respectful dismissal of Cindy Sheehan's ideas, a completely called-for treatment of Code Pink. And the acknowledgement that there are indeed nuts on both sides.

Well done, so far.

23 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:01:27pm

We all support our troops? Have Penn and Teller seen some of the signs at these "peace" rallies? Did they get that Code Pink was protesting the troops there at Berkeley, as in recruiting for the Marines?

24 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:02:06pm

This CANNOT be true!

When Sen. Barack Obama moves the Democratic National Convention from the Pepsi Center to Invesco Field on Thursday, the freshman senator is planning to speak from a columned stage resembling an ancient Greek temple.

"Is this from the Onion?" quipped a McCain adviser.

25 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:04:30pm

re: #18 Killian Bundy

/tell her to [expletive deleted] right off!

I do, about 300 times a day, on a good day.

26 Palandine  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:04:53pm

re: #13 Karridine

World Peace? Bangkok is rioting...

Are y'all about to have another coup?

27 Racer X  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:04:56pm

LOL!

The U.N. gets completely pwned by a 5th grader!

28 BGOH  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:05:56pm

Sorry to go O/T, but f**k it.

I just watched James Carville and Anderson Cooper gush over the political prospects of Hurricane Gustav hitting the U.S. mainland during the RNC. It was so unbelievably disgusting that I am almost shaking with rage. Imagine if a couple of conservatives had sat around and had some glowing conversation about the prospects of a likely terrorist attack during a DNC event. What would the reaction to that have been? How much media coverage would have been devoted to the vilification of those conservatives?

Now ask yourself, how much coverage is this little back-and-forth going to get in the MSM? If you're wondering (and I know you aren't), the answer is NONE.

Son of a bitch am I angry right now.

29 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:06:09pm

I have a dream that Penn and Teller will someday make it into the finals for anti-idiotarian of the year.

30 Karridine  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:07:55pm

re: #26 Palandine

Are y'all about to have another coup?


THAT's what those rabble-rousing slime-balls WANT!

/I'm cheering for law & order, Palandine!

31 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:07:59pm

Doesn't the ANSWER guy kinda prove that the "wacko right-wing" gal was correct?

32 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:09:33pm

re: #20 Kosh's Shadow

Notice no one says "Bush is a great friend of Israel" any more. Bush should demand her resignation; he is ruining his legacy.

I cannot remember the last time I heard it. He will never even hint at her resigning. Never.

And now? US to control FBX-T radar installed in Israel

33 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:10:30pm

If you want the Cliff Notes to these clips:

Capitalism = peace.

34 Karridine  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:10:36pm
"Peace is 'Not War'"

P&T

Peace is MUCH MORE than the cessation of military hostilities.

Baha'is are waging peace, supporting justice and personal responsibility, women's rights, courtesy... and no invective, :D

35 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:13:23pm

re: #34 Karridine

Peace is MUCH MORE than the cessation of military hostilities.

36 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:14:21pm

Well, saw all three segments. Entertaining, it was. Penn Gillette sure does like to drop the F-bombs. It doesn't bother me, but I can appreciate that this would be off-putting to some folks.

The conclusion, that world free trade will ensure world peace, is, I believe, an over-simplification. It doesn't address the fact of fanatics of various stripes, like Communists and Islamists, who feel a moral imperative to force their ways upon an unwilling world.

37 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:14:53pm

Part III is precious.

38 baxtrice  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:15:01pm

I am lovin' Penn & Teller.

39 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:16:39pm

re: #28 BGOH

Sorry to go O/T, but f**k it.

I just watched James Carville and Anderson Cooper gush over the political prospects of Hurricane Gustav hitting the U.S. mainland during the RNC. It was so unbelievably disgusting that I am almost shaking with rage. Imagine if a couple of conservatives had sat around and had some glowing conversation about the prospects of a likely terrorist attack during a DNC event. What would the reaction to that have been? How much media coverage would have been devoted to the vilification of those conservatives?

Now ask yourself, how much coverage is this little back-and-forth going to get in the MSM? If you're wondering (and I know you aren't), the answer is NONE.

Son of a bitch am I angry right now.

If all they have is wishful thinking like that, they are more worthy of pity than anger. That's representative of a lost soul, and very sad.

40 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:17:11pm

re: #35 Silhouette

Lost the rest of my comment. I said, I agree. Surrender and slavery also cause the cessation of military hostilities, but I wouldn't call that peace.

41 Palandine  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:17:39pm

re: #30 Karridine

THAT's what those rabble-rousing slime-balls WANT!

/I'm cheering for law & order, Palandine!

A real shame--I've never been, but the Thais seem like genuinely nice folks.

42 Idle Drifter  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:17:43pm

MAKE MONEY, NOT WAR!

43 baxtrice  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:18:00pm

re: #28 BGOH

Sorry to go O/T, but f**k it.

I just watched James Carville and Anderson Cooper gush over the political prospects of Hurricane Gustav hitting the U.S. mainland during the RNC. It was so unbelievably disgusting that I am almost shaking with rage. Imagine if a couple of conservatives had sat around and had some glowing conversation about the prospects of a likely terrorist attack during a DNC event. What would the reaction to that have been? How much media coverage would have been devoted to the vilification of those conservatives?

Now ask yourself, how much coverage is this little back-and-forth going to get in the MSM? If you're wondering (and I know you aren't), the answer is NONE.

Son of a bitch am I angry right now.

Rush was warning the listeners of the chances of Gustav being Katrina #2 during the RNC

44 joshlt  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:18:38pm

I don't see what was so wrong with the whacko-right wing gal that was opposed to the summary of the show. What she said may have been direct and up-front but nothing she said went against the free trade and capitalism contribute more to world peace then idiotic babble by socialist middle aged women and that homosexual guy with the red shirt.

45 jaunte  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:19:08pm

Free trade:
"it isn't love, it's something stronger: It's business!"

46 Cognito  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:19:28pm

Well done, Penn and Teller.

47 BGOH  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:19:29pm

re: #39 really grumpy big dog Johnson

If all they have is wishful thinking like that, they are more worthy of pity than anger. That's representative of a lost soul, and very sad.

I both understand and agree. I guess I wouldn't have a problem with such a stupid conversation were it not done on national television. Indeed, this same conversation is surely going on in every coffee shop and faculty lounge from Portland to Seattle. No matter the forum, such a conversation is still reprehensible, but to have it take place on a national telecast? That's just unreal.

48 Karridine  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:19:46pm

re: #35 Silhouette

Did I mumble, Silhouette?

Respectfully, I meant that we could burn ALL THE WEAPONS today, and tomorrow we would NOT HAVE PEACE, only the weaponless interlude as some struggle to CREATE WAYS of getting leverage on humans THEY BELIEVE are sub-human...

This is a human spirit reality. There can be NO military solutions to spiritual problems. Or political solutions to spiritual problems.

And EVERY human has a spirit, capable of rationally knowing love.

Change the spirit and you automatically change the thoughts, attitudes and actions of the human endowed with that spirit, yes? :D

49 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:20:14pm

re: #36 Alberta Oil Peon

It doesn't address the fact of fanatics of various stripes, like Communists and Islamists, who feel a moral imperative to force their ways upon an unwilling world.

Which is what Morgan meant by needing war all the time. That there is always someone who wants to subjugate you. And physical resistance is needed.

Not that she just like death and killing.

50 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:20:24pm

re: #43 baxtrice

Rush was warning the listeners of the chances of Gustav being Katrina #2 during the RNC

Well, hopefully, if Gustav does become a huge threat to New Orleans, Governor Bobby Jindal will take steps to over-rule the incompetency of Ray Nagin.

51 indythinker  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:21:03pm

Libertarian pablum.

52 ggt  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:21:07pm

Thank you Charles!

53 BGOH  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:21:16pm

re: #43 baxtrice

I didn't get to listen to Rush today, and I haven't been able to hear him for quite a while now. I started working for a campaign and spend most of my day on the phone. I sure do hate missing him, though, and it doesn't surprise me that he would be out in front of this.

54 Cognito  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:21:32pm

re: #51 indythinker

Libertarian pablum.

Pablum?

In what way?

55 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:22:04pm

re: #44 joshlt

Hahahaha! Are you sure he was gay, or are you...um...projecting?
/sarc

56 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:22:09pm

re: #48 Karridine

See my #40. My #35 lost my response.

57 Karridine  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:22:24pm

re: #41 Palandine

A real shame--I've never been, but the Thais seem like genuinely nice folks.

Mostly, they are!

And the PAD is NOT all thugs, but the good Thais are being used as 'useful idiots' for their 'tool' value, by the PAD firebrand leaders, Palandine

58 baxtrice  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:22:28pm

re: #50 Alberta Oil Peon

Well, hopefully, if Gustav does become a huge threat to New Orleans, Governor Bobby Jindal will take steps to over-rule the incompetency of Ray Nagin.

Let's all HOPE (drink) so.

*snicker*

59 BGOH  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:23:00pm

Oh, and again, I am very sorry for going off topic. I hate to disrupt the rules of decorum on Charles' forum, but I was really pissed off. A rapidly imbibed beer has helped, though. lol

60 baxtrice  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:23:23pm

re: #53 BGOH

I didn't get to listen to Rush today, and I haven't been able to hear him for quite a while now. I started working for a campaign and spend most of my day on the phone. I sure do hate missing him, though, and it doesn't surprise me that he would be out in front of this.

I only got to listen to the first hour as I was on my way to class. I don't listen to him very often, I'm usually a Glenn Beck girl.

61 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:23:48pm

re: #49 Silhouette

Which is what Morgan meant by needing war all the time. That there is always someone who wants to subjugate you. And physical resistance is needed.

Not that she just like death and killing.

I agree 100%. The way to ensure peace is to be prepared for war. Because if "you" are not prepared for war, some other party who is will take advantage of that disparity.

62 Karridine  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:24:08pm

re: #56 Silhouette

Yes'm.

I hear you. :D

63 Europhobe  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:24:52pm

Not a single alpha male to be found in these far left movements.

Why is that?

64 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:25:10pm

Penn.... Of course this guy's for socialism. There's a frickin Che poster behind him!

65 Karridine  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:25:34pm

re: #61 Alberta Oil Peon

Justice rests upon two principles: Reward and Punishment.

They MUST be there, all the time, for a system to be just, fair, equitable.

66 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:26:14pm

re: #61 Alberta Oil Peon

Who was it that said, "Every country has an army. Either their own or somebody else's"?

67 tradewind  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:26:30pm

Whirled Peas.............

68 Dan G.  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:27:07pm

Hoorah money!

69 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:27:16pm

re: #64 Sharmuta

Penn.... Of course this guy's for socialism. There's a frickin Che poster behind him!

I dunno. If you ask me, Che is the poster boy for anti-social.

/does not play well with others

70 tradewind  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:27:38pm

re: #63 Europhobe
Because real men know beta.

71 Cognito  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:28:22pm

re: #67 tradewind

Whirled Peas.............
[Link: www.liveleak.com...]

That cop was way out of line.

Like jail-time out of line.

72 Bobblehead  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:29:11pm

re: #24 Typicalwhitey

This CANNOT be true!

See here and here. lol

73 ggt  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:29:16pm

Peace is more than "not war". Socialism achieves "not war" by subjugating an entire population. The Jim Crow south achieved "not war" thru terrorism.

Peace is Truth, Justice, Love and Freedom.

74 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:29:37pm

Preaching to the choir here, but it never hurts to go over the facts again, so they are fresh in your mind and you can get them right if challenged over the water cooler tomorrow.

A.N.S.W.E.R. is part of the World Workers Party. That is an American communist party that was born when it split with another party that didn't support the Soviet invasion of Hungary.

In other words, the WWP was born out of support for war and violence, leftist war and violence. They are not anti-war, just anti-US.

75 realwest  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:31:00pm

Uh, sorry y'all, but I can't listen to around a half an hour of video fun - hope Charles keeps it on and working until Friday - I'm not gonna be around after a little time on the DT tomrrow, until Friday when hopefully the pain from my tooth extraction(s)
which I'm getting tomorrow morning will have subsided enough so I can watch 'em.

How is everyone tonight after Hillary's cheery speech - everybody drunk already?!? LOL!

76 ggt  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:31:26pm

re: #64 Sharmuta

the guy with the girl's red t-shirt on? yes, it was a girl's style shirt.

77 ggt  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:32:52pm

hey rw! Thinking about going to bed --glad you logged-on.

how you doin'?

78 unclassifiable  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:33:05pm

re: #75 realwest

Ask the dentist for extra pain killers. Bubba is speaking tomorrow.

/and all I get is Carville and CNN -- can you email a few to me?

79 rancher  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:33:08pm

re: #66 Silhouette

Who was it that said, "Every country has an army. Either their own or somebody else's"?

"Someone once said" or "an old saying" is best I can come up with.

80 stevieray  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:33:14pm

re: #74 Silhouette

Preaching to the choir here, but it never hurts to go over the facts again, so they are fresh in your mind and you can get them right if challenged over the water cooler tomorrow.

A.N.S.W.E.R. is part of the World Workers Party. That is an American communist party that was born when it split with another party that didn't support the Soviet invasion of Hungary.

In other words, the WWP was born out of support for war and violence, leftist war and violence. They are not anti-war, just anti-US.

No way! What about all those marches against Russian aggression in the Georgia?

/

81 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:33:18pm

re: #72 Bobblehead

See here and here. lol

Hee, hee, hee. I loved the Gorgon head with Hillary's face. Nice touch!

82 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:33:31pm

Best line:

"They give themselves intellectual credibility by wearing pink, foam-rubber crowns."

Alright, off to bed.

83 Europhobe  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:34:10pm

"the guy with the girl's red t-shirt on? yes, it was a girl's style shirt." - # 76 ggt

Good eye. That's what must have got me noticing (not for the first time mind) how feminine these far left males are.

84 Cognito  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:34:29pm

re: #76 ggt

the guy with the girl's red t-shirt on? yes, it was a girl's style shirt.

I laughed when I saw that. I believe the shirt style is called "baby doll t-shirt."

85 Hard Right  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:35:23pm

re: #84 Cognito

I laughed when I saw that. I believe the shirt style is called "baby doll t-shirt."

It's all the rage with the castrati.

86 JimmyTheClaw  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:35:24pm

weaselzippers has a vid of a code pinko getting battoned made my night

87 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:35:41pm

The co-founder of Code Pink was kinda cute, then again, she was dressed in pink.

88 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:36:41pm

re: #87 Walter L. Newton

The co-founder of Code Pink was kinda cute, then again, she was dressed in pink.

Real ugly on the inside

89 Europhobe  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:36:48pm

The code pinko was faking injury for the cameras. She'll probably sue for a few million and buy a 5,000 sq ft home in Boulder.

90 rancher  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:37:11pm

re: #83 Europhobe

Metro.

91 Racer X  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:37:13pm

History shows that peace is not the norm; there has always been war. There will always be assholes that need to be fu@&ed by big dicks - unless pussies get in the way.

92 Cognito  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:38:11pm

re: #89 Europhobe

The code pinko was faking injury for the cameras. She'll probably sue for a few million and buy a 5,000 sq ft home in Boulder.

That cop was way out of line. She didn't fake that.

Code Pink is a joke. But that guy abused both a woman and his privilege as an officer of the law, and in my opinion deserves to be punished by that same law.

93 ggt  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:38:15pm

re: #83 Europhobe

re: #84 Cognito

Thanks, I shop alot. I know my merchandise!

94 Cognito  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:38:48pm

re: #93 ggt

re: #84 Cognito

Thanks, I shop alot. I know my merchandise!

Cap sleeves, if my wife has taught me correctly.

95 RememberSekhmet?  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:39:54pm

re: #24 Typicalwhitey

This CANNOT be true!

Are you arseing me? Are you serious?

Ms Riefenstahl, please pick up the white courtesy phone and bring your camera....

96 ggt  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:40:22pm

re: #94 Cognito

neckline as well --more open.

He looked like he had boobs too. I was beginning to wonder if he was a girl. Probably a girl-wanna-be. I don't understand that.

97 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:40:45pm

I posted this early today, maybe someone would be interested in seeing this if you didn't before...

OT -

The symposium with Al-Jareeza at the Buffalo Rose is suspose to take place around 6:00pm tomorrow. I have read, on a blog, that the bikers who frequent the place are going to show up and protest.

The BR is only 2 miles from where I live, and I have to stop by the theatre at 5:00pm, and the theatre is only 2 blocks away, so I am going to saunter over there with my camera and see what's happening.

A lot of our local bikers take an all day Sunday ride, and they stop mid-afternoon at the Buffalo Rose for lunch and booze, and there are normally 50 or more bikes parked outside up and down the street. And they are really mad that the club is hosting Al-Jazeera, so it may get interesting.

I'm not Zombie, but I can take a decent picture, so if I get anything of interest, I will post them on my server and put up a link, hopefully by tomorrow evening.

Walter in Golden, Co.

98 Europhobe  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:41:05pm

re: #92 Cognito
You don't know that. He shoved her - big deal. She was given a lawful order to step back and she didn't. Only thing I'll concede is that she may have been hurt. That happens sometimes when you don't follow lawful commands by police officers.

99 realwest  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:42:02pm

re: #77 ggt Hey ggt, well I'm doing ok, still adjusting to the no coffee and no food for two hours before the extraction (don't want me throwing up from the general anesthesia) and the invevitable pain I'll be in later on.
But to heck with it, once it or they are out, they won't cause me the pain I've been in for like 2 months now!
And if you're thinking about going to sleep, I reckon I ought to, to! LOL!
How are ya doing tonight?

100 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:42:20pm

re: #97 Walter L. Newton

I posted this early today, maybe someone would be interested in seeing this if you didn't before...

OT -

The symposium with Al-Jareeza at the Buffalo Rose is suspose to take place around 6:00pm tomorrow. I have read, on a blog, that the bikers who frequent the place are going to show up and protest.

The BR is only 2 miles from where I live, and I have to stop by the theatre at 5:00pm, and the theatre is only 2 blocks away, so I am going to saunter over there with my camera and see what's happening.

A lot of our local bikers take an all day Sunday ride, and they stop mid-afternoon at the Buffalo Rose for lunch and booze, and there are normally 50 or more bikes parked outside up and down the street. And they are really mad that the club is hosting Al-Jazeera, so it may get interesting.

I'm not Zombie, but I can take a decent picture, so if I get anything of interest, I will post them on my server and put up a link, hopefully by tomorrow evening.

Walter in Golden, Co.

1000 quatloos on the bikers.

101 Cognito  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:42:52pm

re: #98 Europhobe

You don't know that. He shoved her - big deal. She was given a lawful order to step back and she didn't. Only thing I'll concede is that she may have been hurt. That happens sometimes when you don't follow lawful commands by police officers.

That's crap. Anyone who watches the video can see that.

102 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:43:01pm

re: #99 realwest

Hey ggt, well I'm doing ok, still adjusting to the no coffee and no food for two hours before the extraction (don't want me throwing up from the general anesthesia) and the invevitable pain I'll be in later on.
But to heck with it, once it or they are out, they won't cause me the pain I've been in for like 2 months now!
And if you're thinking about going to sleep, I reckon I ought to, to! LOL!
How are ya doing tonight?

Hi real, Vicoden haze by tomorrow afternoon, huh.

103 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:43:33pm

re: #99 realwest

Hey ggt, well I'm doing ok, still adjusting to the no coffee and no food for two hours before the extraction (don't want me throwing up from the general anesthesia) and the invevitable pain I'll be in later on.
But to heck with it, once it or they are out, they won't cause me the pain I've been in for like 2 months now!
And if you're thinking about going to sleep, I reckon I ought to, to! LOL!
How are ya doing tonight?

RW, once the the bad teeth are out, the pain will diminish dramatically.

104 jaunte  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:43:41pm

re: #98 Europhobe

He had a choice of a range of methods to move her, and he made a bad choice.
It was a wrong thing to do.

105 wiffersnapper  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:44:04pm

Gotta love the common sense P&T put out.

106 RememberSekhmet?  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:46:32pm

re: #63 Europhobe

Not a single alpha male to be found in these far left movements.

Why is that?

Beta males want to get laid, and lib chicks are easy.

107 Hard Right  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:46:56pm

re: #92 Cognito

That cop was way out of line. She didn't fake that.

Code Pink is a joke. But that guy abused both a woman and his privilege as an officer of the law, and in my opinion deserves to be punished by that same law.

Inconclusive. All we saw was him shove her with the baton. It looks like we only saw his response. It's unclear what she was doing-if anything. I want to see the whole thing, not that quick clip. BTW, you are NOT supposed to jump in a cop's face when they are doing crowd control. Again, it's not clear if she did that, but you invite a baton backed shove with such behavior. It's perfectly legal too.
The "bitch" comment was out of line though. Such comments can escalate the situation even when force isn't used. He will receive some disciplinary action, that's for sure.

108 Europhobe  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:47:12pm

re: #101 Cognito

re: #101 Cognito

That's crap. Anyone who watches the video can see that.

Why is it crap? He said "step back" - she didn't. He did not swing his club. He had the club in both hands and used it to push her - hard - and she fell. If you prove me wrong I will acknowledge. I'm not one of these internet posters who sticks to failed positions. But don't just say "it's crap". We saw the same video.

109 shotgun  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:47:45pm

re: #60 baxtrice

I only got to listen to the first hour as I was on my way to class. I don't listen to him very often, I'm usually a Glenn Beck girl.

Beck seems to be hitting his stride on his radio show now, very entertaining,, I like it when Rush has Jason Lewis guest host. Jason really knows how to work the body of the liberal politic.

110 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:47:58pm

re: #100 Kosh's Shadow

1000 quatloos on the bikers.

Well, I have a vantage point above the action if I need it. I was talking to someone tonight, and they said some of the local cops are going to be stationed in a nail botique across from the Buffalo Rose. Well, the owner of the botique is a good friend of mine, so I may just see if I can hide out there.

But I do intend to get into the thick of the crowd.

These bikers are not your Hells Angel types, at least not anymore. For a matter of fact, they look like moonbats in leather, many in their 50's, and they are all American, and not prone to doing something really stupid.

Some of the local vets from the VFW should be there too.

Word has it that the FBI has a few suites of rooms at the Golden Hotel (figures, the most expensive hotel in town, on taxpayers dime).

Walter in Golden, Co.

111 Europhobe  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:48:05pm

re: #106 RememberSekhmet?

re: #106 RememberSekhmet?

Beta males want to get laid, and lib chicks are easy.

Sounds right to me.

112 kuffar  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:48:35pm

re: #95 RememberSekhmet?

Are you arseing me? Are you serious?

Ms Riefenstahl, please pick up the white courtesy phone and bring your camera....

More ammo for McCain. The wost enemy of the Dhimmikkkratnik Party is, well, Dhimmikkkratniks.

113 realwest  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:49:10pm

re: #102 Walter L. Newton Hi Walter - nah, no vicodan for me, I already take a LOT of morphine for the pain of the cancer, the cancer meds and the meds I take to ameloriate the side effects of the cancer meds! LOL!
No, seriously, I'm just gonn have to go it with the drugs I normally take, kinda sucks, but there it is!

114 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:49:11pm

re: #106 RememberSekhmet?

Beta males want to get laid, and lib chicks are easy.

Take it from me, I can tell you some stories. In fact, I think I may have already told too much here on LGF in the past about the old hippy chicks I have known. What a slut I am.

115 ggt  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:50:10pm

re: #99 realwest

I'm hangin' in there, thanks for asking!

116 Tarkus289  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:50:46pm

Freedom without peace is better than peace without freedom.

117 Hard Right  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:50:52pm

re: #101 Cognito

That's crap. Anyone who watches the video can see that.

Interesting how you ingnore her saying, "fucking do it again!" That was directed at the cop. I didn't hear that the first time I saw it, but I did the times after that.
It seems the sequence of events is like so. She jumps in his face possibly making contact with the officer. He pushes her back once, she gets angry and issues her challenge before she jumps back into his face. At that point he is fully justified to do what he did.

118 Cognito  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:51:40pm

re: #108 Europhobe

re: #101 Cognito

Why is it crap? He said "step back" - she didn't. He did not swing his club. He had the club in both hands and used it to push her - hard - and she fell. If you prove me wrong I will acknowledge. I'm not one of these internet posters who sticks to failed positions. But don't just say "it's crap". We saw the same video.

Believe it or not, police can't do just anything they like, even to the likes of a leftist.

Police follow an escalation of force, a common-sense scale. And going from a polite "step back" to smashing a woman full-force and adding "BITCH!" seems to indicate something less than common sense.

I won't waste more time with you, on this. People can watch and decide for themselves.

119 realwest  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:51:47pm

re: #103 Alberta Oil Peon Well.........not really.....the pain I get now I only get if I chew on my right side or if I grind my teeth; pain after oral surgery usually lasts me about 14 days of AGONY, no real abatement of pain over time, but like on about the 15th day I wake up and NO PAIN - at all.
My Oral Surgeon jokes with me about this - HE thinks it's humorous. I don't exactly share his sense of humor! LOL!

120 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:51:58pm

re: #113 realwest

Hi Walter - nah, no vicodan for me, I already take a LOT of morphine for the pain of the cancer, the cancer meds and the meds I take to ameloriate the side effects of the cancer meds! LOL!
No, seriously, I'm just gonn have to go it with the drugs I normally take, kinda sucks, but there it is!

Today my doc gave me some for the hernia spasms. I really don't think I need them, but far be it from me to go against doctors orders. LOL.

They scheduled my surgery for Tues. Sept. 16th. which so happens to be opening week (and when we work in the tech) for our next show. I have a sub coming in to run lights and sound for the first weekend.

Oh, look at the clock, time for another happy pill.

121 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:52:07pm

The little girl was awesome!

122 Killian Bundy  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:52:10pm
Some 80,000 supporters will see Obama appear from between plywood columns painted off-white, reminiscent of Washington's Capitol building or even the White House, to accept the party's nomination for president.

He will stride out to a raised platform to a podium that can be raised from beneath the floor.

Too funny.

/shades of Spinal Tap

123 tradewind  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:52:23pm

re: #101 Cognito

The video starts with him shoving, but what did she do before he ordered her back?
No telling what she could have thrown at him.
just saying.....

124 kuffar  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:53:49pm

re: #122 Killian Bundy

Shades of Hitler or Stalin. I'd stick away from Godwinning the election.

Don't use Che, because Che is Chic.

125 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:53:58pm

re: #122 Killian Bundy

Too funny.

/shades of Spinal Tap

Cue the little trolls...

126 talon_262  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:53:59pm

re: #91 Racer X

History shows that peace is not the norm; there has always been war. There will always be assholes that need to be fu@&ed by big dicks - unless pussies get in the way.

Nice Team America: World Police reference ;-)

I have one more for you: "America...FUCK YEAH!"

;-P

127 markie  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:54:03pm

re: #5 Kosh's Shadow

I can visualize whirled peas, but they're too small to throw at the she-hag

frozen into a brick....

128 realwest  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:54:15pm

re: #115 ggt Glad to hear it - would be happier if y'all didn't have to work so damn hard, though!

129 Racer X  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:54:39pm

Cops have batons and guns, and are paid to use them. Go ahead - challenge them.

130 BignJames  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:55:11pm

re: #118 Cognito


smashing a woman full-force


Wha? She got up, didn't she?

131 Europhobe  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:55:28pm

I won't waste more time with you

I politely ask for more than "that's crap" from you and also state I will not cling to a failed position if you can make your case.

So you decide not to "waste your time with me"

ok

132 realwest  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:56:33pm

re: #120 Walter L. Newton No Walter, don't ever go against a doctors orders (unless it makes you feel more ill)! LOL!
Too bad about that schedule working out like that though. Real bummer.

133 Hard Right  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:56:39pm

re: #118 Cognito

Believe it or not, police can't do just anything they like, even to the likes of a leftist.

Police follow an escalation of force, a common-sense scale. And going from a polite "step back" to smashing a woman full-force and adding "BITCH!" seems to indicate something less than common sense.

I won't waste more time with you, on this. People can watch and decide for themselves.

Proven wrong and you run away. Big surprise. Again you deliberately ignore her role in this. Guess what, he was fully justifed. His only punishment will involve him calling her a bitch which was wrong. You have no idea what you are talking about.
BTW, that is the point where a moonbat was arrested for assaulting some anti-gay protestors and the leftists tried to rescue him from the cops. Hence the reason why they were telling everyone to back off. She wanted trouble and she got it.

134 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:57:09pm

Speakers for tomorrow night in Denver...

Ralph Nader, Val Kilmer, Cindy Sheehan and Sean Penn. These great people are speaking tomorrow night at the Magness Arena @ 6 PM...along with Tom Morello, Matt Gonzalez, Jello Biafra, Nellie McKay and Ike Reilley.

[Link: denver.craigslist.org...]

"As actors, it is our responsibility to read the newspapers, and then say what we read on television like it's our own opinion."

135 Cognito  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:57:19pm

re: #131 Europhobe

I won't waste more time with you

I politely ask for more than "that's crap" from you and also state I will not cling to a failed position if you can make your case.

So you decide not to "waste your time with me"

ok

I'm not saying you're a waste of time at all. I'm saying the argument is, in my opinion.

People can watch and decide. That's about it.

136 RememberSekhmet?  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:57:22pm

re: #112 kuffar

More ammo for McCain. The wost enemy of the Dhimmikkkratnik Party is, well, Dhimmikkkratniks.

I'd post some backup documentation from YouTube, but most folks who are posting pieces from Triumph of the Will are Nazi bastards, and I don't want to give them the hits.

137 tradewind  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:57:48pm

re: #122 Killian Bundy

Bring it on.... I want to see him hype it up as much as he can. Way over the top. Hell, put a damn seal on the podium and have the band play 'hail to the Chief' as he walks out.
The polls began to tank for The One right around the time he started his presumptive victory lap of Europe, complete with quasi-presidential accoutrements. It can only turn the actual voters off.... if it fires up a few college kids, we'll just have to live with it until November.
I really don't think they'll turn out as expected.

138 Cognito  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:57:54pm

re: #133 Hard Right

Proven wrong and you run away. Big surprise. Again you deliberately ignore her role in this. Guess what, he was fully justifed. His only punishment will involve him calling her a bitch which was wrong. You have no idea what you are talking about.
BTW, that is the point where a moonbat was arrested for assaulting some anti-gay protestors and the leftists tried to rescue him from the cops. Hence the reason why they were telling everyone to back off. She wanted trouble and she got it.

Wow, you sound tough.

139 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:58:29pm

re: #122 Killian Bundy

Too funny.

/shades of Spinal Tap

"In ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history, an ancient race of people... the Druids. No one knows who they were or what they were doing... "

140 Europhobe  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:59:09pm

His only punishment will involve him calling her a bitch which was wrong. - Hard Right

Correct, which is unprofessional not way over the top

141 Killian Bundy  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 9:59:15pm

re: #125 Walter L. Newton

Cue the little trolls...

I hope they bring the fake Obama Seal back for this one.

/because he apparently hasn't learned that lesson yet

142 Hard Right  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:00:52pm

re: #138 Cognito

Wow, you sound tough.

Thanks for admiting I'm right.
Again you don't comment on what she said to him and how she had already been pushed back once. Why? because you know you're wrong.

143 Killian Bundy  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:02:12pm

re: #139 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"In ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history, an ancient race of people... the Druids. No one knows who they were or what they were doing... "

/Stonehenge

144 ggt  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:04:00pm

Is Bill O'Reilly drunk or just really, really tired?

145 Hard Right  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:04:20pm

re: #140 Europhobe

His only punishment will involve him calling her a bitch which was wrong. - Hard Right

Correct, which is unprofessional not way over the top

I agree it's wrong, but not way over the top. Cognito has her panties in a bunch tho.
I love how people like Cog have never had to risk their lives or safety and insist on criticizing those who do without having a clue on what's legal and what isn't and what's needed to stay safe.

146 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:04:33pm

re: #143 Killian Bundy

/Stonehenge

That movie was so spot on.

147 Cognito  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:04:50pm

re: #142 Hard Right

Thanks for admiting I'm right.
Again you don't comment on what she said to him and how she had already been pushed back once. Why? because you know you're wrong.

That's cool. Like I said, people can watch the video and decide for themselves.

148 realwest  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:05:00pm

re: #137 tradewind

I really don't think they'll turn out as expected.

Ya know, things not turning out quite the way the Obama campaign thought it would seems to have become a theme of theirs.
I thought his campaign advisors did a HELLUVA great job getting him to where he is - I mean, seriously, he's a nobody - an empty suit with no really new ideas (hell, hardly any ideas at all) no experience in governing ANYTHING, only 2 years in the Senate (when he started) and all that Jeremiah Wright stuff, Ayers, his grandmother etc, etc etc and he's STILL gonna be the Dem nominee. I really thought his campaign was extremely well run, until he took the lead - then they sorta prematurely congratulated themselves and started to believe their own press clippings.
This whole "ceremony" aspect is most assuredly NOT gonna turn on the average voters AT ALL.

149 ggt  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:06:16pm

re: #128 realwest

I'd work hard even if I didn't have to. It's a choice, really. I could move to England and go on the dole, but I prefer to stay here and work hard.

/Hate doing anything half-@ssed.

150 Cognito  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:06:26pm

re: #145 Hard Right

I agree it's wrong, but not way over the top. Cognito has her panties in a bunch tho.
I love how people like Cog have never had to risk their lives or safety and insist on criticizing those who do without having a clue on what's legal and what isn't and what's needed to stay safe.

I think you're angry at someone else, and you've confused him or her with me.

I know this because in this post alone you've made three wrong assumptions.

We disagree about the video. So be it.

151 realwest  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:06:45pm

re: #144 ggt
Why does it have to be one or the other - maybe he's both tired and drunk!

152 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:07:04pm

re: #148 realwest

Ya know, things not turning out quite the way the Obama campaign thought it would seems to have become a theme of theirs.
I thought his campaign advisors did a HELLUVA great job getting him to where he is - I mean, seriously, he's a nobody - an empty suit with no really new ideas (hell, hardly any ideas at all) no experience in governing ANYTHING, only 2 years in the Senate (when he started) and all that Jeremiah Wright stuff, Ayers, his grandmother etc, etc etc and he's STILL gonna be the Dem nominee. I really thought his campaign was extremely well run, until he took the lead - then they sorta prematurely congratulated themselves and started to believe their own press clippings.
This whole "ceremony" aspect is most assuredly NOT gonna turn on the average voters AT ALL.

Come on Real, it's all about feelings, you know that.

/

153 Europhobe  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:08:20pm

Hard Right, I should have been more clear. My #140 post was directed at Cognito using your post to make my point.

Notice too, I declare a willingness to concede points made and Cognito resorts to sarcasm instead of acknowledgment. Anyway, done with this thread too.

154 Killian Bundy  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:08:22pm

re: #145 Hard Right

what's legal and what isn't and what's needed to stay safe.

/there's a reason why even the horses wear visors.

155 realwest  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:09:04pm

re: #152 Walter L. Newton LOL! Thanks for that one Walter!

But speaking of feelings, my apprehension has given away to fatigue and I'm gonna go to bed now.
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.


Goodnight, all.

156 Cognito  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:09:08pm

re: #148 realwest

I agree. Obama, or someone who works for him, has run a spooky campaign.

Just a few years ago no one beyond his local scene had ever heard of this guy. No one.

157 ggt  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:09:41pm

re: #151 realwest

True. He's definitely showing signs of "Convention" behavior.

158 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:09:53pm

re: #155 realwest

LOL! Thanks for that one Walter!

But speaking of feelings, my apprehension has given away to fatigue and I'm gonna go to bed now.
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Goodnight, all.

Weet dreams.

159 ggt  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:10:45pm

weet dreams, real!

160 tradewind  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:11:22pm

re: #148 realwest

Their lack of experience is showing in the campaign....just imagine what a presidency would look like.
(Then again, don't.... you need your rest before the tooth thing.
Hope it goes smoothly for you).

161 Hard Right  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:12:00pm

re: #150 Cognito

I think you're angry at someone else, and you've confused him or her with me.

I know this because in this post alone you've made three wrong assumptions.

We disagree about the video. So be it.

Ha! Project much? Your conclusion about the officer's actions tell me you don't know what you are talking about. You have no idea what force is justified in what situation and you are clearly biased. She picked a fight with a police officer and lost. Yet you ignore that and blame the cop. No, the angry one making assumption is you-or have you forgotten your previous post already?

162 Tarkus289  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:13:09pm

obama is a fool
biden is a ghoul
colmes is a tool

and I need sleep.

163 Killian Bundy  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:14:04pm

Oh boy, Obama's not only going to rise up into the middle of miniature plywood Greek columns at his coronation . . . he's going to do it to fireworks!

/it's now gone way beyond parody

164 Cognito  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:14:47pm

re: #161 Hard Right

ok

165 Hard Right  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:15:26pm

re: #153 Europhobe

Hard Right, I should have been more clear. My #140 post was directed at Cognito using your post to make my point.

Notice too, I declare a willingness to concede points made and Cognito resorts to sarcasm instead of acknowledgment. Anyway, done with this thread too.

No sweat, I got it. Typical Cog behavior, really. Night all.

166 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:15:36pm

re: #163 Killian Bundy

Oh boy, Obama's not only going to rise up into the middle of miniature plywood Greek columns at his coronation . . . he's going to do it to fireworks!

/it's now gone way beyond parody

Do you have a link to this information or are you being satirical?

167 unclassifiable  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:16:28pm

They are recreating '68 in every petty, venal, nasty way. And that is good. Let's take the rose colored glasses off and really see the sixties for what they were -- an ugly call to class warfare, race baiting, and anarchy clothed in the words of peace, love, and respect.

168 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:16:34pm

Anyone want to play some blackjack? I'll be the dealer.

169 RememberSekhmet?  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:16:37pm

Did y'all see this?

Liberal Fascism strikes again

170 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:20:18pm

re: #169 RememberSekhmet?

Did y'all see this?

Liberal Fascism strikes again

Saw it yesterday. Alex Jones was on a local radio talk show this morning, and he claims she provoked the whole thing JUST BECAUSE SHE WAS THERE.

Really, he was explaining that it was her presence alone that required him to take the stance that he did.

I've never seen him before, heard about some of his opinions etc., but I'll tell you, after seeing the video and hearing him on the radio this morning, it don't take a psych degree to tell that he is mentally ill.

171 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:22:48pm

re: #169 RememberSekhmet?

Saw it yesterday, but from a different camera. You can't hear it in the one you linked, but in the one I saw yesterday, you can clearly hear someone yell "Fuck you Alex Jones you unchivalrous bastard" at about 8:26.

172 Killian Bundy  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:23:01pm

re: #166 Walter L. Newton

Do you have a link to this information or are you being satirical?

/Once Obama speaks, confetti will rain down on him and fireworks will be fired off from locations around the stadium wall.

173 Karridine  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:24:43pm

re: #171 Slumbering Behemoth

Saw it yesterday, but from a different camera. You can't hear it in the one you linked, but in the one I saw yesterday, you can clearly hear someone yell "Fuck you Alex Jones you unchivalrous bastard" at about 8:26.


I agree, we can. What I hear, however, is a male voice much closer to the camera (microphone) than Michelle was at that time.

175 Karridine  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:26:21pm

re: #166 Walter L. Newton

Do you have a link to this information or are you being satirical?

At this point, Obama is self-satirizing! He is becoming a caricature of himself, to his chagrin!

176 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:26:56pm

re: #173 Karridine

Yes we can?
/

177 Killian Bundy  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:27:59pm

re: #174 Walter L. Newton

Holy shit. That's just too much.

/yeah, I think that's a first for pyrotechnics

178 Karridine  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:28:20pm

re: #176 Slumbering Behemoth

See, say 'pwayday'...

/See? Say... "Payday!" Slumbering

179 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:29:58pm

re: #175 Karridine

At this point, Obama is self-satirizing! He is becoming a caricature of himself, to his chagrin!

This guy (or his handlers) have managed to cloud the line between politics and entertainment. I mean, it's ok to "party" around the person you hope to see as your next president, but when that person becomes the party himself, well, it's no different than hiring a clown to perform at your kids birthday party.

Did that make any sense?

180 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:30:53pm

re: #177 Killian Bundy

/yeah, I think that's a first for pyrotechnics

I had a set of pyrotechnics attached to an old Pioneer stereo. Really good speakers.

181 Temujin  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:32:47pm

re: #167 unclassifiable

They are recreating '68 in every petty, venal, nasty way. And that is good. Let's take the rose colored glasses off and really see the sixties for what they were -- an ugly call to class warfare, race baiting, and anarchy clothed in the words of peace, love, and respect.

Moonbat Nation !

182 gmsc  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:33:54pm

Charles: If you save these videos to a playlist, and then use the embed code of the playlist, they'll automatically play one right after the other, and in the same window!

183 Killian Bundy  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:34:23pm

re: #180 Walter L. Newton

I had a set of pyrotechnics attached to an old Pioneer stereo. Really good speakers.

/I preferred the pyrofishers

184 Karridine  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:35:51pm

re: #179 Walter L. Newton

"Here comes Clowny! Honk his bulby nose! Watch him flap his ears! Hear him flap his gums for Hopeless Change!

Hey, Clowny! No midgets today? NO PROBLEM, because YOU have inflatable shoes! Where's your friend Spawn? Is HE a hireling of Asmodeus as well?"

/makes sense, Walt

185 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:36:24pm

re: #183 Killian Bundy

/I preferred the pyrofishers

It must be getting late. That wasn't any funnier than my comment.

186 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:39:16pm

I want to go to a "Lizardpalooza" someday where I can see a panel discussion with Penn, Teller, Zombie and Charles.

187 ggt  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:39:39pm

Night all!

weet dreams!

188 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:42:00pm

FWIW, Obama is in the PR sink hole called "yesterday's celebrity".

We are coming close to where there is only one thing that can revitalize his career - a sex tape.

And I don't want to see it.

189 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:42:43pm

re: #184 Karridine

"Here comes Clowny! Honk his bulby nose! Watch him flap his ears! Hear him flap his gums for Hopeless Change!

Hey, Clowny! No midgets today? NO PROBLEM, because YOU have inflatable shoes! Where's your friend Spawn? Is HE a hireling of Asmodeus as well?"

/makes sense, Walt

Yes (although I have never seen any of the Spawn (?) movies).

I'm not jaded, and I'm not special. I'm not above anyone, I don't posess any greater insight into world afairs, but good old common sense tells me Obama is a worthless sack of shit. I can see that, and it is really a shame that so many Americans have lost their ability to measure a person.

It's become one big, endless Hollywood fanasty movie. Sometimes I almost wish for a giant wake up call to shake the world, something, anything that would stop people in their tracks and knock the sawdust out of their heads.

190 Temujin  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:43:27pm

re: #188 karmic_inquisitor

FWIW, Obama is in the PR sink hole called "yesterday's celebrity".

We are coming close to where there is only one thing that can revitalize his career - a sex tape.

And I don't want to see it.

Dead girl . . . or live boy ?

191 TnTx13  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:43:59pm

Has anyone checked Jump the Shark to see if The One has....?

192 Russkilitlover  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:45:01pm

re: #147 Cognito

That's cool. Like I said, people can watch the video and decide for themselves.

Sounds like a case of the "ref" calling the second foul.

193 tommoon  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:45:26pm

Realwest

Sleep well my friend. I got here a little late, but I sure wasn't watching the Dems.

194 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:45:41pm

re: #188 karmic_inquisitor

re: #190 Temujin

The next time I stock up on brain bleach (read: mass quantities of alcohol), I am sending you both a bill.
/

195 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:47:25pm

re: #191 TnTx13

I think that shark was jumped a month ago.

196 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:47:29pm

re: #163 Killian Bundy

How on earth will anyone even think he is presidential material with something out of a 1960's B-grade movie?

/Whoops, forgot we are dealing with Demonrats.

197 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:49:30pm

re: #144 ggt

Is Bill O'Reilly drunk or just really, really tired?

Both.

198 Killian Bundy  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:49:40pm

re: #185 Walter L. Newton

It must be getting late. That wasn't any funnier than my comment.

I'm sorry, I can't help contain my sadistic glee. First, he picks Ol' Plugs. Then, tonight, they trot out Hillary to stick the "I told you so" knife in. And unbelievely, here comes Bill tomorrow, barreling down the tracks, to give the knife a damn good twisting, back and forth with relish.

/finally, almost mercifully, on Thursday, because I'm already dying here laughing, Obama pops out of his miniature clown car in the middle ring of a three ring circus, only to wake up Friday morning wondering what went wrong and what's the hell's so funny

199 Temujin  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:49:51pm

re: #191 TnTx13

Has anyone checked Jump the Shark to see if The One has....?

If I'm not mistaken, earlier tonight the Barracuda jumped him . . .

200 TnTx13  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:51:02pm

re: #199 Temujin

If I'm not mistaken, earlier tonight the Barracuda jumped him . . .

Bwahahahaha...

201 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:52:13pm

re: #198 Killian Bundy

I'm sorry, I can't help contain my sadistic glee. First, he picks Ol' Plugs. Then, tonight, they trot out Hillary to stick the "I told you so" knife in. And unbelievely, here comes Bill tomorrow, barreling down the tracks, to give the knife a damn good twisting, back and forth with relish.

/finally, almost mercifully, on Thursday, because I'm already dying here laughing, Obama pops out of his miniature clown car in the middle ring of a three ring circus, only to wake up Friday morning wondering what went wrong and what's the hell's so funny

I miss clown cars. Such a simple gag, but you laughed every time, at least I did.

202 Cognito  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:52:30pm

re: #198 Killian Bundy

I'm sorry, I can't help contain my sadistic glee. First, he picks Ol' Plugs. Then, tonight, they trot out Hillary to stick the "I told you so" knife in. And unbelievely, here comes Bill tomorrow, barreling down the tracks, to give the knife a damn good twisting, back and forth with relish.

/finally, almost mercifully, on Thursday, because I'm already dying here laughing, Obama pops out of his miniature clown car in the middle ring of a three ring circus, only to wake up Friday morning wondering what went wrong and what's the hell's so funny

Shhh. If people mock it too openly, ahead of time, they'll scrap the Greek Temple plan.

I'm only half kidding.

203 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:54:55pm

I'm off to slumberland. Remember, don't fart too close to your CPAP machine, it's deadly.

204 TnTx13  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:57:45pm

re: #203 Walter L. Newton

I'm off to slumberland. Remember, don't fart too close to your CPAP machine, it's deadly.

Uh - sweet dreams?

205 Temujin  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:58:42pm

re: #202 Cognito

Excellent point. We need folks who can behave like they are treating this with complete seriousness.

I think about a half dozen sweet young things, dressed like they just arrived from a toga party, doing the "We're not worthy! We're not worthy!" thing in Barack's general direction, would just about make the nut.

/

206 JimmyTheClaw  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 10:59:58pm

ok about that cop pushing the code pinko instead of bitch he should have said "respect my autharatuh

/cartman mode off

207 carefulnow  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:02:34pm

test comment

208 JimmyTheClaw  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:04:01pm

re: #207 carefulnow

test comment

passed

209 carefulnow  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:05:07pm

re: #208 JimmyTheClaw

Thanks. It's been a while. Forgot my password.

210 RememberSekhmet?  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:07:42pm

Weet dreams

211 least  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:10:51pm

I share P & T's disdain for the kumbaya, Rodney King-style world-view that's held by most of the "peace activists". What I can not, and will not put up with is their over-abundance of classless language.

A few well chosen expletives can have a lively effect. P & T's abusage of the language (in just the first 30 seconds) is simply deadening.

So, before I'm accused of wanting to stifle freedom of speech, lemme say that I stopped the video after 45 seconds -- but due to all y'all's comments, I was able to pretty much know what 'twas about. I have to tolerater that sort of smack at work, I choose not to put up with it at home -- that is all.

Mark Twain's wife (I think it was) was put off by some of the "rough language and decided to fight fire with fire -- hoping to shock some restaint into he husband, she started using as much obscene language as she could think of. He listened, smiled and said, "You know the words, but you don't know the tune.

212 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:12:38pm

re: #172 Killian Bundy

What bothers me the most about the extravaganza they are putting on, while they kvetch about the economy, is the following sentence from your article:

Obama was taking a page from the campaign book of John Kennedy in 1960 when the future president delivered his acceptance speech to 80,000 people in the Los Angeles Coliseum.

I voted for JFK. It was my first election, as the voting age was 21...and Hussein is no President Kennedy. Hussein would never be fit to lick President John F. Kennedy's ass shoes.

/I wonder what Hussein will do when they sing the National Anthem. Take a bathroom break?

G'nite, all.

213 BignJames  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:13:18pm

re: #211 least

Well, butter my butt and call me a bisquit.

214 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:15:43pm

re: #213 BignJames

I think that was one of the funniest bits of the whole thing. Loved the rest of it as well.

215 least  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:17:29pm

re: #213 BignJames

Well, butter my butt and call me a bisquit.

O biscuit boy, this comment is in reaction to what?

216 RedPepper  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:17:32pm

re: #212 NY Nana


Speaking of JFK ...

“The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived and dishonest - but the myth - persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.”

~ John Fitzgerald Kennedy

217 lazardo  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:17:56pm

Applying clue bat at full force to moonbat who believes "Israel is the primary agitator of terrorism in the Middle East."

/what's going on this afternoon, guys?

218 BignJames  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:18:55pm

re: #215 least

It was in the video.

219 BignJames  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:20:41pm

re: #214 BlueCanuck


Thought about changing your nic? BluenoseGopher?

220 redc1c4  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:20:57pm

re: #211 least

what i can't stand about P&T is their moonbat tendency....

the few of their skits i've tried to listn too have been so far left as to fall off my dial.

/they're not *that* funny.

221 least  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:20:59pm

10-4 & 10-Q

weet dreams, leezards

222 Killian Bundy  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:21:20pm

Pesky Secret Ballot At Stake

‘Card check’ bill needs a few more Dem senators and Obama as president

BY SEAN HIGGINS INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY

If Tom Donohue has his way, nobody will be using the words “card check” this fall. Instead they’ll be talking about “secret ballot.”
For Donohue, president and CEO of the Chamber of Commerce, that’s “the major reason” he’s in Denver: to get Democrats to think differently about the Employee Free Choice Act, also known as card check.
At stake is a potentially radical change in how unions are organized that would almost certainly expand their power. Unions think they’ll get their way if Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., becomes president. Donohue fears they may be right.
“The main thing is that we want to keep enough people in the Senate to maintain the filibuster,” he said.

/the stakes of this election are so high it's almost unimaginable

223 redc1c4  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:21:32pm

re: #216 RedPepper

Speaking of JFK ...

“The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived and dishonest - but the myth - persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.”

~ John Fitzgerald Kennedy

he would know, being all hat & no cattle himself.

224 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:24:07pm

re: #219 BignJames

Nope, already have a furry sock puppet. :)

/only bring out when there's rocks needing to be thrown around.
//also announce myself as a sockpuppet.

225 least  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:25:20pm

re: #220 redc1c4

No. No. No. no. No!
Definitely a misquaot -- I objected to P & T's obscenity overkill ONLY -- I did not accuse them of moonbattery.
Now. For reals . . . weet dreams.

226 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:26:00pm

re: #216 RedPepper

Speaking of JFK ...

“The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived and dishonest - but the myth - persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.”

~ John Fitzgerald Kennedy

After nearly 45 years (22 Nov. 1963) I still remember nearly every second of that day, and the horrible weeks after it. I was starting my 9th month of my first pregnancy, and we were living in a suburb of my native Boston, as my Brooklynite husband was in the US Army, stationed at the now-defunct Boston Army base.

Up until 9/11, a lot of my generation talked about 'before the President's assassination'...now? 9/11 takes first place, and I only pray that there will never be anything like these 2 disasters to strike our nation.

227 redc1c4  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:27:59pm

re: #225 least

No. No. No. no. No!
Definitely a misquaot -- I objected to P & T's obscenity overkill ONLY -- I did not accuse them of moonbattery.
Now. For reals . . . weet dreams.

never said you did: what i said was that *i* found them objectionable,
and not *that* funny anyway.....

(maybe i missed their good skit? %-)

228 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:29:01pm

re: #223 redc1c4

Were you an adult, or at least in high school, when JFK was President? Do you have actual memories of that day?

229 redc1c4  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:29:10pm

re: #224 BlueCanuck

Nope, already have a furry sock puppet. :)

/only bring out when there's rocks needing to be thrown around.
//also announce myself as a sockpuppet.

you know how to suck all the fun out of life, don't you?

/white smoke

230 redc1c4  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:31:09pm

re: #228 NY Nana

Were you an adult, or at least in high school, when JFK was President? Do you have actual memories of that day?

i remember him getting capped, but i was a kid then. however, i've read enough history/research since then to see the line between life & legend.

231 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:31:42pm

re: #229 redc1c4

I do like the internet anonymity thing. But I do know when to play nice. If I am going to lurk, I lurk. No need to hide behind another name and stir shit up.

232 RedPepper  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:32:31pm

re: #223 redc1c4

he would know, being all hat & no cattle himself.

If you say so.

Still 1000% better than the modern-day Demo-moonbats, IMHO.

233 redc1c4  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:33:30pm

re: #231 BlueCanuck

I do like the internet anonymity thing. But I do know when to play nice. If I am going to lurk, I lurk. No need to hide behind another name and stir shit up.

why not? %-)

234 redc1c4  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:34:24pm

re: #232 RedPepper

If you say so.

Still 1000% better than the modern-day Demo-moonbats, IMHO.

true dat: inflatable sheep would be an improvement, spine wise.

235 RedPepper  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:34:39pm

re: #226 NY Nana

I was in high school. And I will never forget either.

236 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:35:51pm

re: #233 redc1c4

If I am a stirring, I will do it up front. More fun that way. :)

237 RedPepper  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:37:41pm

re: #234 redc1c4

true dat: inflatable sheep would be an improvement, spine wise.

That reminds me of another quote.

"I could carve a man with a stiffer spine out of an over-ripe banana."

Can't quite recall who said that, or about whom.

238 redc1c4  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:38:18pm

re: #236 BlueCanuck

If I am a stirring, I will do it up front. More fun that way. :)

think of it as the difference between microwave food & home cooking..... %-)

239 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:41:26pm

re: #230 redc1c4

My memories are not from books. They are from a day that I will never forget. Never.

Books are written with agendas. Living through the event is a totally different thing.

Having lived through both the assassination and 9/11, I cannot and will not forget. Our kids and a daughter in law and future son in law also were directly affected. I still get scared when a plane flies what seems to be too low on the flight path to LaGuardia, as at certain times it does go over...and live in a community where there are kids who lost one or both parents and also some who were babies and toddlers, and have no memory of the parent or parents they lost.

Can you thimk of even one ting that JFK did to deserve being assassinated, leaving a widow and 2 young kids?

I have no use for Caroline, but she went through hell...

240 Killian Bundy  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:42:49pm

Sarah, Sarah Palin, queen of the wild frontier!

/huntress and lifetime NRA member, among many other definitive Republican attributes, OR Ol' Plugs, who thinks gun owners are nuts, who do you choose as VP, clingy toting America?

241 tommoon  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:44:20pm

22 Nov. 1963

I remember that day very well. I was in the ninth grade of an East Texas school. The speaker came on, one was placed in the upper center of each room for special announcements, and the school principle said that the President had been shot in Dallas and was dead. We were really too young to understand the significations of this statement. But I do remember that tv event, the next Sunday, of the Presidents funeral, the lone horse riding down Pennsylvania avenue. It always made me to believe that this country is always defined by the quality of our leadership, to do what has to be done to insure our freedom. When that leadership is no longer given as a understood right, then God has surely abandened us.

242 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:44:43pm

re: #240 Killian Bundy

Morning Killian. I see your crusade is still going strong. What will you do if she's not picked?

243 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:44:43pm

re: #240 Killian Bundy

Sarah, Sarah Palin, queen of the wild frontier!

/huntress and lifetime NRA member, among many other definitive Republican attributes, OR Ol' Plugs, who thinks gun owners are nuts, who do you choose as VP, clingy toting America?

My feelings tell me Obama, but my Ruger yearns for a McCain/Palin ticket.

244 redc1c4  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:45:53pm

re: #237 RedPepper

That reminds me of another quote.
"I could carve a man with a stiffer spine out of an over-ripe banana."
Can't quite recall who said that, or about whom.


maybe it came from something like this?:

Dear dork;
You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As we sayin Texas, I'll bet you couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel.
You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you. You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but
the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.
You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your
alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to
nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done. I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you.
You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile,
worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell? Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly. The food you eat reviles you.
You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its
beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood.
May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs. You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with you.
You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land
that reality forgot. And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?
You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and
obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile, one-handed, slack-jawed, drooling, meatslapper. On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool.
You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of
wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go. You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john.
You clouted boggish foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You
gormless crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill.
You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for
knowing you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away somewhere and die the most gruesome
death immaginable. I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid.

245 lazardo  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:46:43pm

re: #241 tommoon

My parents were still kids back then. I do remember in my history class though that since the Presidential Line of Succession was not yet introduced then, they had to convince the public that JFK was still alive until LBJ was sworn in, to avoid a power vacuum that the Soviets could exploit.

246 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:46:51pm

re: #244 redc1c4

You left out "Best Wishes- Love Mom"

247 lazardo  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:48:05pm

re: #244 redc1c4

Gunny has a better choice of words, IMHO.

248 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:49:01pm

re: #235 RedPepper

I was in high school. And I will never forget either.

It was indescribable, and living in Boston, it was eery...almost no traffic, and the department stores down town had their windows empty..except for a window with a portrait of our murdered presdent, draped in black crepe, on an easel.

My parents zt"l thought it would be a good idea to take my husband and me for a ride, as I kept weeping...and seeing the portraits, and the empty streets? My Mum was weeping too. My parents were Republicans. We went back to my parents' home, and watched the events on TV...no, I will never remember.

We have all seen presidents who we cannot stand, but I would like to think that no one ever wishes that they be assassinated.

We are a democracy, damn it.

249 RedPepper  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:50:10pm

re: #239 NY Nana

JFK, and his brother Bobby, were the last Democrats I had any respect for. Not that I necessarily agreed with their policy predilictions even back then. But they certainly were not the kind of vermin that currently makes up that party today!

250 redc1c4  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:51:29pm

re: #239 NY Nana

My memories are not from books. They are from a day that I will never forget. Never.

Books are written with agendas. Living through the event is a totally different thing.

Having lived through both the assassination and 9/11, I cannot and will not forget. Our kids and a daughter in law and future son in law also were directly affected. I still get scared when a plane flies what seems to be too low on the flight path to LaGuardia, as at certain times it does go over...and live in a community where there are kids who lost one or both parents and also some who were babies and toddlers, and have no memory of the parent or parents they lost.

Can you thimk of even one ting that JFK did to deserve being assassinated, leaving a widow and 2 young kids?

I have no use for Caroline, but she went through hell...

i never said, let alone intimated, that he should have been killed. however, the death of one person, for reasons that are, and likely will forever, remain hazy are completely different than an overt act of war, albeit one conducted by a non-nation state who had effectively already declared war on our very way of life.

251 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:51:37pm

re: #241 tommoon

Beautiful post. Thank you.

It is nearly 3 AM, and I must go to sleep.

G'nite, all. Sweet dreams.

252 Killian Bundy  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:51:39pm

re: #242 BlueCanuck

Morning Killian. I see your crusade is still going strong. What will you do if she's not picked?

/I guess vote for McCain, cross my fingers, and hope the evangelicals can get over Romney's "underwear problem", unless McCain does something really boneheaded and picks a Bonkey

253 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:54:26pm

re: #249 RedPepper

JFK, and his brother Bobby, were the last Democrats I had any respect for. Not that I necessarily agreed with their policy predilictions even back then. But they certainly were not the kind of vermin that currently makes up that party today!

It was such a different world...history will at some point, re-evaluate a lot of mis-information, and only time will tell..and that it was in the days of TV has been an excellent teaching tool.

254 RedPepper  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:55:44pm

re: #244 redc1c4

No, I think the guy I got my quote from had a little more class than that.

/You been browsing DK for yucks in your spare time?

255 redc1c4  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:57:06pm

re: #246 Fenway_Nation

You left out "Best Wishes- Love Mom"

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256 RedPepper  Tue, Aug 26, 2008 11:57:47pm

re: #253 NY Nana

Let's hope so, Nana. Get some good sleep ...

257 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:02:08am

Oh, and Palin's not a RINO.

McCain/Palin

/because one RINO on the ticket is enough

258 talon_262  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:03:35am

re: #255 redc1c4

Joke or not, that's just tacky...and duly reported to Stinky.

/don't give any help to LGF's enemies...

259 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:04:16am

re: #254 RedPepper

No, I think the guy I got my quote from had a little more class than that.

/You been browsing DK for yucks in your spare time?

.
nope, just ancient Usenet/Internet history......

apologies to those who don't see the humor

260 pat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:04:33am

Just watched Giuliani take apart Colmes like he was nothing but detached bones.

261 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:05:42am

re: #260 pat

Just watched Giuliani take apart Colmes like he was nothing but detached bones.


Why do you think we call him Skeletor?

262 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:05:58am

re: #260 pat

Just watched Giuliani take apart Colmes like he was nothing but detached bones.

/there's a reason he's called Skeletor

263 tommoon  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:08:15am

Hey Pat,

How about those Waipio guys.

264 pat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:11:12am

re: #263 tommoon

Hey Pat,

How about those Waipio guys.

Hey Tom! Haven't seen you for a bit. And likely vise versa. lol. Kick ass. and we sent 18 Olympic hopefuls to China and 6 won medals! Try that anyone.

265 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:11:33am

BTW, any word out of Denver of protestors or attempted riots?

266 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:12:23am

re: #258 talon_262

Joke or not, that's just tacky...and duly reported to Stinky.

/don't give any help to LGF's enemies...

you do whatever you think you need to do.... it's a legendary post from the days gone by on Usenet, and hardly "help to LGF's enemies" since it's a quote and not addressed to anyone in particular..... whomever those "enemies" might be..... unless they are opposed to history too.

i didn't write it, and i did censor the one racial epithet i saw since i have no truck with it, nor was it needed to convey the general tone. if i missed anything really bad, it was by omission, since it's long.

BTW: "tacky" is protected by the 1st Amendment, at least until further notice. Charles, of course, is welcome to set higher standards, which i aim to abide by.

267 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:12:33am

re: #257 Killian Bundy

Oh, and Palin's not a RINO.

McCain/Palin

/because one RINO on the ticket is enough


The only downside is her relative inexperience. If we can hammer away on Obama's lack of experience (and rightly so), expect the Donks to do exactly the same with Palin. However, I don't think it's as big an issue for the VP spot as it is for the actual presidential candidate.

/Also expect the Donks to harp on the utter insignificance of Alaska as a state and throw in some gratuitous Stepford Wives references.

268 Intrepid  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:15:33am

There has never been peace in the world as we have known it - look back through the ages and try to find an extended time in which peace reigned.

Other than during the time of Elizabeth I, but she fought hard to maintain that "peace".

World peace? A fantasy of those who foolishly believe that everyone else in the world feels like they do. Sadly, they do not consider the Islamofacists, nor do they consider the Russians nowadays.

"World Peace" is maintained by a country that is ready to confront the evils that provoke it.

And that would be the US.

269 Optimizer  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:16:09am

re: #44 joshlt

I don't see what was so wrong with the whacko-right wing gal that was opposed to the summary of the show. What she said may have been direct and up-front but nothing she said went against the free trade and capitalism contribute more to world peace then idiotic babble by socialist middle aged women and that homosexual guy with the red shirt.

I agree. She always said, "if necessary". Given the context I think she was pretty much on the same page.

But did anyone notice? P&T said the answer to peace is "money" (which is not the same thing as capitalism). Eventually they called it "economic freedom". But did they ever really say "Capitalism encourages peace?" Even they shied away from this "dirty word".

Excellent demonstration at the end, though. Peace through respecting individual rights (of which capitalism is only a subset). So simple, yet so awesome!

270 shiplord kirel  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:17:10am

re: #244 redc1c4

You did have to remind me of my evil brother Judas (aka "dan") and his loathesome consort, Jabba the Slutt.

271 tommoon  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:17:46am

Pat

Still here on Oahu. Unbelievable those guys. They did this Island such honor, winning with dignity. Too bad our political system can't show that same honor.

272 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:18:42am

re: #265 BlueCanuck

BTW, any word out of Denver of protestors or attempted riots?

We can only hope.

I may light a candle . . .

273 pat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:21:26am

re: #269 Optimizer

Still hippies who feel they should be able to maintain their life style, (as well as their progeny if they manage to have children, and that is suspect), but that others must sacrifice for the good of .......(current cause). Let us say I am not impressed as these 2 grasp for the obvious but are scared away by the lessons taught them by College 'professors'.

274 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:22:59am

re: #264 pat

Hey Tom! Haven't seen you for a bit. And likely vise versa. lol. Kick ass. and we sent 18 Olympic hopefuls to China and 6 won medals! Try that anyone.


Wow...that ties Georgia! The one that Russia invaded....

/3 gold, 3 bronze

275 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:23:23am

re: #270 shiplord kirel

You did have to remind me of my evil brother Judas (aka "dan") and his loathesome consort, Jabba the Slutt.

we aim to please....... or something. %-)

/white smoke

276 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:24:31am

re: #272 Temujin

Yes we can only hope. So far it's sounding like the "Recreate 68" organizers are managing a big flop.

277 shiplord kirel  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:25:03am

Flames predate the internet:

John Montagu, Earl of Sandwich: "Egad sir, I do not know whether you will die on the gallows or of the pox."

John Wilkes: "That will depend, my Lord, on whether I embrace your principles or your mistress."

(often falsely attributed to Gladstone and Disraeli, though not by anyone who knows anything about them.)

Disraeli did say, in response to a question about the difference between a misfortune and a calamity:

"If Gladstone fell into the Thames, that would be a misfortune; and if anybody pulled him out, that I suppose would be a calamity."
278 pat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:25:10am

re: #271 tommoon

Pat

Still here on Oahu. Unbelievable those guys. They did this Island such honor, winning with dignity. Too bad our political system can't show that same honor.

When the little girl from Roosevelt lost the Bronze to the Ukrainian and started crying, i thought the whole State would stop functioning. So much heart and spirit for such a young girl. Everyone was crying with her.

279 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:26:23am

re: #276 BlueCanuck

Oh well. I guess there aren't any serious students of history left, these days . . .

280 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:27:41am

re: #267 Fenway_Nation

The only downside is her relative inexperience. If we can hammer away on Obama's lack of experience (and rightly so), expect the Donks to do exactly the same with Palin. However, I don't think it's as big an issue for the VP spot as it is for the actual presidential candidate.

/Also expect the Donks to harp on the utter insignificance of Alaska as a state and throw in some gratuitous Stepford Wives references.

They can hammer all they want. Assuming she's been vetted, she's got a compelling personal story, can hold her own against Biden on foreign policy just as well as Romney in the debate, at the same time making Ol' Plugs look like evil incarnate if and when he tries to bully.

/and, unlike Romney, once the public gets introduced to her at the Convention, she will deliver all the base without reservation and scoop up a lot of independent and Hillary women currently wavering on Obama, seriously, I see very little downside here, certainly less than with Romney

281 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:27:42am

re: #279 Temujin

Oh well. I guess there aren't any serious students of history left, these days . . .

are there any serious students of anything anymore?

282 lazardo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:27:54am

re: #264 pat

We've been sending athletes to the Olympics since the 20s and the only golds we ever got were in exhibition events. q:

I blame the celebrity factor. Our athletes only think of the glory...and the fact that they'll be regarded as national heroes if they actually get a gold medal.

283 pat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:28:22am

Off to bed here. Will see you all in a month or so, except for some sporatic stuff.

284 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:30:25am

re: #277 shiplord kirel

“Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.” — Oscar Wilde

Churchill has a number of excellent zingers, iirc.

285 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:32:22am

re: #281 redc1c4

I'm still looking —

286 tommoon  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:33:40am

Pat

The family really got into this Olympics. They usually don't care anything about sports. We have decided not to watch the Conventions. I followed what happened here.

287 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:34:41am

re: #240 Killian Bundy

Sarah, Sarah Palin, queen of the wild frontier!

After reading that Wikipedia article, I think I like her even more. Could she be the younger, female Fred Thompson?

/and "cuter" too. sorry fred, but she is

288 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:36:03am

re: #287 victor_yugo

Not that hard to be cuter than Fred. He might have gravitas, and a great speaking voice. Cute he ain't.

289 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:39:44am

re: #284 Temujin

Churchill has a number of excellent zingers, iirc.

Lady Astor: "Sir, if you were my husband, I should poison your coffee!"

Sir Winston: "Madam, if I were your husband, I should drink it!"

--

"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." (on Sir Stafford Cripps)

--

"When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." (on formal declarations of war)

--

"In defeat, unbeatable; in victory, unbearable." (on Montgomery)

290 mattm  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:39:55am

P&T got the point across that peace or attempting to bring about peace is not about, feelings or that you thought you conneced with a security guard. What the Code Pinkos are advocating is US pacifism, while others are not. Sometimes, despite everyones best efforts, war will occur.

291 tommoon  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:43:19am

mattm

I also think that time has proven that sometimes war is the only way to peace.

292 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:44:10am

re: #288 BlueCanuck

Not only gravitas, but also his stated positions were almost exactly in line with my own. Plus, being an actor, I expect he could maintain a poker face when confronting our challengers.

That's a skill Giuliani lacks, IMO; his leadership is what NYC needed after 9/11, but I don't think the quick decisions will translate well onto the world stage.

But, all in all, I'm just hoping for anyone who can hand Biden his balls.

293 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:44:26am

To win, we're going to need to deliver the entire Republican base and as many of the women that Lord Obama's having trouble with as possible.

/there should be no question in anyone's mind, after watching two days of the Bonkey convention, that Palin (or maybe another vetted women, NON RINO) as the VP nominee will be more effective than Romney with a little over two months left

294 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:44:53am

re: #284 Temujin

“Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.” — Oscar Wilde

Churchill has a number of excellent zingers, iirc.

"Everyone brings joy to the w*rkplace: some when they show up, others when they leave. the truly talented do both."

295 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:45:19am

re: #289 victor_yugo

Liverpool socialist MP Bessie Braddock : “Sir, you are drunk.”

Churchill : “And you, madam, are ugly. But in the morning, I shall be sober.”

( Anecdotal. )

296 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:45:40am

re: #285 Temujin

I'm still looking —

you and Diogenes......

i'm looking for another beer......

/found one!

297 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:46:14am

re: #290 mattm

Sometimes, despite everyones best efforts, war will occur.

The Code Pinkos' efforts do zilch against AQ.

The Code Pinkos' efforts did zilch against Saddam.

The Code Pinkos are hypocrisy personified. And they aren't the only ones.

298 mattm  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:46:38am

re: #291 tommoon

mattm

I also think that time has proven that sometimes war is the only way to peace.

Good point.

299 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:47:05am

“A modest man, who has much to be modest about.” - Winston Churchill , on Clement Attlee

300 LeePro  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:47:50am

re: #245 lazardo

My parents were still kids back then. I do remember in my history class though that since the Presidential Line of Succession was not yet introduced then, they had to convince the public that JFK was still alive until LBJ was sworn in, to avoid a power vacuum that the Soviets could exploit.

What are you talking about? HISTORY.

301 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:48:23am

re: #296 redc1c4

Here's one for the Socratic mathematicians.

302 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:49:21am

re: #295 Temujin

Liverpool socialist MP Bessie Braddock : “Sir, you are drunk.”

Churchill : “And you, madam, are ugly. But in the morning, I shall be sober.”

( Anecdotal. )

i got screamed at awhile back by some nondriving young schmuck in his (he thought) expensive car when he sat & looked at the green arrow instead of going.....

after trading pleasantries wherein he was coming up short, he trotted out the big (here in LaLa land) gun: "you're fat!"

my reply reduced his passenger to hysterics and him to speechlessness
"yes, but you're stupid, and i can diet."

%-)

303 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:49:29am

re: #287 victor_yugo

After reading that Wikipedia article

Try the Governor's Association.

/can I have my leg tingle now?

304 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:49:47am

re: #296 redc1c4

Everyone has to have something to believe in.

I believe that I'll have another drink.

/Cheers!

305 shiplord kirel  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:52:02am

re: #284 Temujin

“Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.” — Oscar Wilde

Churchill has a number of excellent zingers, iirc.

One of Churchill's less publicized zingers came during the dispute over nationalization of major industry that followed the Labour Party's victory in the election of 1945. Churchill was out as PM but of course he retained his seat in parliament as leader of the opposition.
It happened that the members' washroom included a long trough-type urinal. One day, the Labour PM, Clement Atlee, was standing at one end of the trough when Churchill entered and ostentatiously took up a position at the opposite end, a full twenty feet away.
"Feeling unsociable today, Winston?" Atlee asked.
"No, Clem, it's just that every time you see something big, you try to nationalize it."

306 mattm  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:52:15am

re: #297 victor_yugore: #303 Killian Bundy

Try the Governor's Association.

/can I have my leg tingle now?

Sure.

If McCain picks Paulin and if they win, imagine the moonbat reaction. The First female, Christian, NRA member Veep.

307 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:53:38am

re: #303 Killian Bundy

Try the Governor's Association.

/can I have my leg tingle now?

I like this part:

Prior to her election as governor, Palin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council and two terms as the mayor/manager of Wasilla. During her tenure, she reduced property tax levels while increasing services and made Wasilla a business friendly environment, drawing in new industry.

She gets it!

That's it. She has my support.

*tingle*

308 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:54:49am

re: #305 shiplord kirel

That made me laugh so hard I had to take care not to wake the neighbors!

309 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:55:43am

re: #301 victor_yugo

Here's one for the Socratic mathematicians.

i lurv that comic. %-)

310 lazardo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:56:57am

re: #300 LeePro

...Oh.

/I learn something everyday...

311 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:57:14am

re: #301 victor_yugo

Here's one for the Socratic mathematicians.

Here's another good one. A little wordy but still good.

312 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:58:26am

re: #305 shiplord kirel

Ah thanks. Been trying to remember that one for awhile.

313 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:58:33am

re: #305 shiplord kirel

I like that one - always glad to learn a new Churchill anecdote, also.

I imagine that you have heard this one :

Young man (after seeing Churchill leaving the bathroom without washing his hands) : “At Eton they taught us to wash our hands after using the toilet.” Churchill’s retort : “At Harrow, they taught us not to piss on our hands.”

314 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:58:43am

I still want to know how she feels about foreign policy, immigration, etc

Is she willing to do whatever it takes?

315 mattm  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 12:59:54am

Any new Zombie reports soon?

316 LeePro  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:00:05am

Jump in late.




One hit.
: : : smiles   ;D   waves at lazardo : : :






Go to bed. G'nite {Beloved Lizards}!

McCain/Palin '08!

317 shiplord kirel  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:00:49am

Speaking of little socialist wankers, the detestable Keith Olbermann is so over-the-top that even other media droids are starting to become annoyed:

MSNBC Insiders: Olbermann is Out of Control

Media matters.

NBC/MSNBC TV news sources say veteran, professional commentators and journalists--most notably, Chris Matthews and Andrea Mitchell--are appalled by the network's amateurish, biased coverage of the Democratic National Convention.

Industry insiders say Matthews is incensed by Keith Olbermann's commentary, which amounts to little more than a nightly adulation of Barack Obama.

318 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:02:27am

Night {LeePro}. Weet dreams.

319 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:02:49am

re: #307 victor_yugo

She gets it!

That's it. She has my support.

*tingle*

Assuming he hasn't already made up his maverick RINO mind, all we can do at this point, with three days left, is let them know, you'll have to give up your e-mail address and phone number.

Two words: Sarah Palin

/[Link: www.johnmccain.com...] (contact us)

320 laZardo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:03:23am

re: #316 LeePro

G'nite!

/waves at small text

321 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:03:24am

re: #313 Temujin

Favourite punchline to my most favourite joke. Except it's an army guy to a sailor and airforce wog. :)

/can also add and that's when the fight started.

322 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:03:33am

re: #317 shiplord kirel

Hmmm. Apparently, Matthews does not bother to watch tapes of his own show . . .

323 rp1138  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:03:46am

"An empty taxicab pulled up, and Stanley Baldwin got out."

-Winston Churchill

324 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:07:02am

re: #316 LeePro

Jump in late.




One hit.
: : : smiles   ;D   waves at lazardo : : :






Go to bed. G'nite {Beloved Lizards} (and red)!

McCain/Palin '08!

325 laZardo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:07:49am

re: #301 victor_yugo

POGIC LARADOX.

/lol

326 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:08:52am

re: #314 TheMatrix31

I still want to know how she feels about foreign policy, immigration, etc

Is she willing to do whatever it takes?

Where does Mitt stand on those issues? Same difference.

/Mitt isn't a women and, unfair as it is, the Huckabee crowd won't vote for him, period, just ask Huckabee, he's leading the resistance

327 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:09:52am

re: #323 rp1138

"An empty taxicab pulled up, and Stanley Baldwin got out."

-Winston Churchill

Another good one !

Here's a somewhat longer one . . .

During one election campaign, Churchill was speaking in a church hall in rural England. The hall was decorated in the well accepted colour scheme of that era - mission brown up to shoulder height, then cream up to and including the ceiling. When he finished his speech Churchill called for questions. The first came from a middle-aged woman dressed in country tweeds. “Mr. Churchill, I am a member of the Temperance League,” she said. “My local branch has been examining your use of alcohol. Are you aware, Prime Minister, that during your lifetime to date you have consumed enough alcohol to fill this hall up to here,” she asked, stretching her arm dramatically to indicate the top of the mission brown zone on the wall. “We want to know what you intend to do about it?” Churchill looked at the woman, following her arm to the top of the mission brown zone, and then he slowly allowed his gaze to move up through the cream zone to the ceiling, and replied, “So little time, so much to do.”

328 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:11:34am

re: #327 Temujin

Another good one !

Here's a somewhat longer one . . .

During one election campaign, Churchill was speaking in a church hall in rural England. The hall was decorated in the well accepted colour scheme of that era - mission brown up to shoulder height, then cream up to and including the ceiling. When he finished his speech Churchill called for questions. The first came from a middle-aged woman dressed in country tweeds. “Mr. Churchill, I am a member of the Temperance League,” she said. “My local branch has been examining your use of alcohol. Are you aware, Prime Minister, that during your lifetime to date you have consumed enough alcohol to fill this hall up to here,” she asked, stretching her arm dramatically to indicate the top of the mission brown zone on the wall. “We want to know what you intend to do about it?” Churchill looked at the woman, following her arm to the top of the mission brown zone, and then he slowly allowed his gaze to move up through the cream zone to the ceiling, and replied, “So little time, so much to do.”

i'll drink to that!


/CHANGE!

329 mattm  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:13:35am

re: #317 shiplord kirel

It is nice to see some moonbats getting annoyed with his "news" casts.

330 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:14:09am

re: #327 Temujin

One of our country's founding fathers and also the first prime minister was a notorious boozer as well. During one debate with an opponet, who was a teetolar, the line was used. "Sir your breath offends me, it smells of water.

/not sure if this actually happened, but remember one of my teachers using it.

331 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:15:12am

I love listening to police radio after midnight.

/dog units get a lot of work

332 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:17:23am

re: #330 BlueCanuck

A memorable line, whether it happened or not!

“When I was younger I made it a rule never to take strong drink before lunch. It is now my rule never to do so before breakfast.”

-- Winston Churchill

333 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:20:12am

re: #332 Temujin

"The church is far away, and the roads are slippery.
The bar is near, and I will walk carefully."
--Russian proverb

334 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:23:44am

re: #333 victor_yugo

That's a good one.

I used to know quite a few of the Soviet-era jokes. Were you here the day that news of Solzhenitsyn's death came out?

335 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:24:04am

re: #333 victor_yugo

"The church is far away, and the roads are slippery.
The bar is near, and I will walk carefully."
--Russian proverb

no matter where you go, there you are.

Buckaroo Banzai

336 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:26:30am

re: #334 Temujin

Yup. I learned a couple new ones that day.

337 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:27:57am

re: #336 victor_yugo

Me too.

338 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:28:32am

Soviet era joke:

"What do you in case of an American nuclear attack?"

"Put on your funeral shroud and walk slowly to the cemetery."

"Why slowly?"

"To keep from starting a panic."

339 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:29:58am

"For saying Brezhnev is stupid, I sentence you to twenty years."

"Twenty years? Normal sentence for criticizing party chairman is five years!"

"Yes, but you also reveal state secret!"

340 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:30:15am

From Cold-War Czechoslovakia:

"What kind of year will 1970 be?"

"Middling: Better than '71, worse than '69."

341 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:30:59am

re: #336 victor_yugo

Yup. I learned a couple new ones that day.

have y'all ever read Out of the Ice.?

there was an impressive gentleman.

342 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:31:25am

re: #335 redc1c4

Well, red, if you really wanna go there . . .

“Anything worth doing is worth doing for money.” -- Ferengi Rule Of Acquisition # 13

343 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:31:42am

re: #340 Shiplord Kirel

August 21, 1968:

Newspapers around the world announce the end of the Prague Spring.

344 laZardo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:31:51am

re: #339 victor_yugo

"In Soviet Russia, state secret reveals YOU!"

/that one was coming...

345 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:33:23am

re: #341 redc1c4

have y'all ever read Out of the Ice.?

there was an impressive gentleman.

Hey, hey, you got reported to teacher.

/FWIW, I'm not all that impressed with the Kennedy clan either

346 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:33:53am

re: #326 Killian Bundy

Where does Mitt stand on those issues? Same difference.

/Mitt isn't a women and, unfair as it is, the Huckabee crowd won't vote for him, period, just ask Huckabee, he's leading the resistance

Don't get me wrong about Palin. I love her, and I think she's the best choice in this position and situation that we're in now. This is despite my wanting Romney to be President from the start.

But we've heard SOME things from Mitt regarding that stuff. He laid the verbal smackdown on Ahmadinnerjacket and if I recall correctly, he's not opposed to Guantanamo and using torture to get information out of terrorists.

347 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:35:20am

re: #341 redc1c4
I did, red . . . quite a few years ago, as I recall. Great book.

Did you read An American In The Gulag by Alexander Dolgun?

348 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:35:48am

re: #341 redc1c4

What a discovery.

Take a look at the "Popular Products" list in the right sidebar.

349 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:37:25am

re: #348 victor_yugo

I don't know whether to laugh, or scream in terror. how long before the chosen has it removed?

/

350 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:39:57am

re: #349 BlueCanuck

I hope he has a new whine every day from now till November!

351 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:41:10am

re: #340 Shiplord Kirel

From Cold-War Czechoslovakia:

"What kind of year will 1970 be?"

"Middling: Better than '71, worse than '69."

scene: Ft Benning, early 1982 one of the many ranges in the Malone complex. lessons of the day were to include safely searching enemy prisoners. since they had totally screwed up my legs & i was on profile, guess who was the body.

actors in the scene:
/our hero
/your stereotypical bottom of the barrel 2LT from the late 70's.

"So, Private, they have you playing a Russian today."

"Yes Sir!"

"What's your name?

"Ivan Denesovich."

"Who?"

" 'Ivan Denisovich' Sir, he's the main character in "A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" by Alexander Solzhenitsyn.... you have read his books haven't you? .....it's all about life in the Gulag under Stalin in the 1950's......."

/he hated me %-)

352 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:42:53am

re: #342 Temujin

Well, red, if you really wanna go there . . .

“Anything worth doing is worth doing for money.” -- Ferengi Rule Of Acquisition # 13

and once i own all the Ferengi's?

they remind me of the rat's i was sniping at out back earlier......

353 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:43:00am

So, how did everybody think Hillary did?

354 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:43:57am

re: #351 redc1c4

“How can a man who is warm understand a man who is freezing?” - ID

355 BignJames  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:45:50am

re: #353 galloping granny

Sorry, I'm on a Hillary restricted life.

356 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:47:01am

re: #346 TheMatrix31

Don't get me wrong about Palin. I love her, and I think she's the best choice in this position and situation that we're in now. This is despite my wanting Romney to be President from the start.

But we've heard SOME things from Mitt regarding that stuff. He laid the verbal smackdown on Ahmadinnerjacket and if I recall correctly, he's not opposed to Guantanamo and using torture to get information out of terrorists.

Trust me, McCain picks Palin and we'll see the roll out of her positions through and past the Convention.

/besides the obvious we've already learned, we know she's a staunchly pro-life, fiscal conservative State Governor, and, judging by that, I'm guessing that her opinions on U.S foreign policy and immigration reform, with proper briefings to get her up to international speed, won't fall far from my tree

357 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:47:16am

re: #348 victor_yugo

What a discovery.

Take a look at the "Popular Products" list in the right sidebar.

Did you get asked to vote on which products belonged there?

358 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:48:43am

re: #353 galloping granny

Was at the GF's this evening watching medical shows. She kept flipping back and forth to the DNC. I think she did just to watch my reactions. She told me later after I left(just after Cankles speech started), that Hillary was a great speaker. I said nothing, I think she was trying to get my goat again. :)

359 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:49:43am

Oh my goodness. Terry MacAuliffe is on Greta ranting that the Dems are going to beat John McCain. "Every single Dem was better than John McCain."

360 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:50:02am

re: #353 galloping granny

Like the elephant that could stand on its hind legs, what's impressive is not that it is done well (it is not) but that it is done at all . . .

/Hillary is one of the least natural politicians that I can recall since Nixon.

361 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:50:06am

re: #356 Killian Bundy

Trust me, McCain picks Palin and we'll see the roll out of her positions through and past the Convention.

/besides the obvious we've already learned, we know she's a staunchly pro-life, fiscal conservative State Governor, and, judging by that, I'm guessing that her opinions on U.S foreign policy and immigration reform, with proper briefings to get her up to international speed, won't fall far from my tree

That's true. Would be nice if she was Tancredo on immigration and Giuliani on national security, wouldnt it?

362 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:50:16am

re: #358 BlueCanuck

GF's?!

/oy. I am SO confused!

Are there Cliffs Notes on Hillary's speech?

/fell asleep...

363 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:50:27am

Hollyworld:

Tennis-player Mark Mathabane grew up in the segregated Soweto township in apartheid era South Africa.

As a youngster, he and his friends spent a great deal of time at the local third-run movie house, where an all-day ticket cost something like the equivalent of four cents.

This was in the mid-60s, when the fare consisted mostly of American westerns and badly dubbed Italian gladiator movies, with an occasional crime drama thrown in to liven things up. This was all young Mathabane and his friends ever saw of the outside world or of white people.
Mathabane says that when he was 6 or 7, he assumed from this that his own people were segregated for their own protection and were therefore some kind of privileged caste, since they might otherwise wander into a gladiatorial combat or a shoot-out and come to grief in the insanely violent world of the white man.

364 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:50:55am

re: #353 galloping granny

So, how did everybody think Hillary did?

/#198, read upthread if it's unclear

365 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:51:42am

re: #358 BlueCanuck

Was at the GF's this evening watching medical shows. She kept flipping back and forth to the DNC. I think she did just to watch my reactions. She told me later after I left(just after Cankles speech started), that Hillary was a great speaker. I said nothing, I think she was trying to get my goat again. :)

Hillary is a good speaker. That doesn't mean that a single speech is convincing or that what she says is anything other than BS. Look at Obama after all - ever word out of his mouth is Marxist, whiney crap. He says it beautifully though - at least as long as he can see the teleprompter.

Why are you seeing a woman who deliberately tries to get your goat like that?

366 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:52:34am

re: #362 littleoldlady

Are there Cliffs Notes on Hillary's speech?

/fell asleep...

Lucky you!

367 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:52:56am

re: #362 littleoldlady

GF's?!

/oy. I am SO confused!

Are there Cliffs Notes on Hillary's speech?

/fell asleep...

Me too, little. They are showing bits of it on Fox right now. Got coffee hid up along with the fruitcup? I've got to do some laundry quick-smart and be ready to drag 3 kids out the door by 8.

368 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:53:48am

re: #361 TheMatrix31

That's true. Would be nice if she was Tancredo on immigration and Giuliani on national security, wouldnt it?

They're not vetted, non RINO women.

/and the Bonkey women have a huge problem with Obama over Hillary after last night, just watch Bill rub his nose in it tomorrow at his own convention

369 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:55:25am

re: #367 galloping granny

granny! :-)

I've got coffee in an IV. You're welcome to it.

/not doing a bit of good for me
//hope you have better luck...

370 BignJames  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:55:30am

re: #358 BlueCanuck

If you've got a goat, why do you need a GF?

371 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:55:48am

re: #368 Killian Bundy

just watch Bill rub his nose in it tomorrow at his own convention

It's not nice to piss off the Beelzebubba . . .

372 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:56:47am

BignJames! :-)

DING! LOL!

373 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:57:51am

re: #365 galloping granny

It's no biggie really. Sometimes I overreact and I think she found it humourous. She knows how I think politically. She might not be as conservative as I am, but at least she's not a leftist.

/she works with a communist, and can't understand how that person can be one.

374 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:58:07am

re: #368 Killian Bundy

They're not vetted, non RINO women.

/and the Bonkey women have a huge problem with Obama over Hillary after last night, just watch Bill rub his nose in it tomorrow at his own convention

Just wait until Obama takes the stage in his Greek temple, LOL.

/Greta rerun from last night has "breaking news" about Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers. Between trying to bury those files and going to unheard of lengths to suppress that ad, there must be something really BIG he is trying desperately to hide.

375 laZardo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:58:20am

re: #363 Shiplord Kirel

Hollyworld:

Tennis-player Mark Mathabane grew up in the segregated Soweto township in apartheid era South Africa.

As a youngster, he and his friends spent a great deal of time at the local third-run movie house, where an all-day ticket cost something like the equivalent of four cents.

This was in the mid-60s, when the fare consisted mostly of American westerns and badly dubbed Italian gladiator movies, with an occasional crime drama thrown in to liven things up. This was all young Mathabane and his friends ever saw of the outside world or of white people.
Mathabane says that when he was 6 or 7, he assumed from this that his own people were segregated for their own protection and were therefore some kind of privileged caste, since they might otherwise wander into a gladiatorial combat or a shoot-out and come to grief in the insanely violent world of the white man.

Talk about the feeling being mutual...

/irony?

376 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:58:44am

re: #370 BignJames

Because I am not a muslim?

377 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:59:12am

re: #373 BlueCanuck

It's no biggie really. Sometimes I overreact and I think she found it humourous. She knows how I think politically. She might not be as conservative as I am, but at least she's not a leftist.

/she works with a communist, and can't understand how that person can be one.

Ah - I see. That's a bit different than I thought you meant. :)

378 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:59:58am

Cliff Notes through Hillary's speech?

/almost obvious the Clintons are scheming for 2012, nothing you can prove yet

379 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:00:05am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------>
Help yourselves!

380 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:01:19am

Thankee for the fruitcup of great one. :)

381 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:01:33am

Impeccable timing, Littleoldlady

382 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:02:15am

re: #379 littleoldlady

Thank you, LoL!

As the Irish say, “May the giving hand never falter.”

383 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:02:34am

re: #378 Killian Bundy

Cliff Notes through Hillary's speech?

/almost obvious the Clintons are scheming for 2012, nothing you can prove yet

Yeah, there is no way that Hillary is going to play second fiddle to Barry.

/what the heck, have a bunch of governors gone muslim or something? Richardson and Patterson are both sporting scraggly beards all of the sudden.

384 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:04:20am

BlueCanuck! :-)

Fenway! :-)

I almost forgot it altogether and had to scramble to type make it at the last minute.

/more coffee!

385 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:04:47am

Temujin! :-)

386 BignJames  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:05:06am

re: #376 BlueCanuck


Just checking.

387 laZardo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:05:13am

re: #379 littleoldlady

Good dusk to ye, lol!

388 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:05:29am

"Barrak Obama will lead us, heal us and help us rebuild the country we love."

These people are lunatics.

389 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:06:57am

re: #383 galloping granny

what the heck, have a bunch of governors gone muslim or something? Richardson and Patterson are both sporting scraggly beards all of the sudden.

Some of them take sensitive missions/junkets.

/they need the facial hair to survive where they travel to, I'll give Richardson a pass, have no idea who Patterson is

390 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:07:07am

re: #388 galloping granny

Yeah that's one of lines I heard. Immediately did a face palm. I sure wouldn't want to live in the country they are describing.

/

391 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:07:37am

re: #374 galloping granny

granny,

Found this in the spinoffs.

Aside from the Ayers connection, the Annenberg Challenge was also a huge waste of money.

/surprise, surprise
//NOT.

There's no doubt a bunch of slimy stuff about Obama buried in those papers...

392 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:07:48am

re: #388 galloping granny

"Barrak Obama will lead us, heal us and help us rebuild the country we love."

These people are lunatics.

That's why we call 'em moonbats !

393 BignJames  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:07:58am

re: #388 galloping granny


It gets worse.

394 laZardo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:08:19am

re: #388 galloping granny

"Barrak Obama will lead us, heal us and help us rebuild the country we love."

These people are lunatics.

And they call us the sheeple?

395 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:08:34am

re: #350 Temujin

I hope he has a new whine every day from now till November!

as long as i don't run out of wine.....

396 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:08:56am

laZardo! :-)

Now I have to add dusk?!

/I'm too old to...um...CHANGE!
//if you'll pardon the expression ;-)

397 laZardo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:09:46am

re: #396 littleoldlady

I just like adding tomatoes to the fruitcup is all. [;

398 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:10:05am

re: #358 BlueCanuck

Was at the GF's this evening watching medical shows. She kept flipping back and forth to the DNC. I think she did just to watch my reactions. She told me later after I left(just after Cankles speech started), that Hillary was a great speaker. I said nothing, I think she was trying to get my goat again. :)

dump her.....

/less trouble now.

399 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:11:28am

Were those rioters in Zombie's video the real thing or, were they just kids lashing out?

400 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:13:40am

re: #384 littleoldlady

BlueCanuck! :-)

Fenway! :-)

I almost forgot it altogether and had to scramble to type make it at the last minute.

/more coffee!

good thing i got to the fixin's early then, eh?

/time to marinate %-)

401 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:14:03am

re: #399 MandyManners

Were those rioters in Zombie's video the real thing or, were they just kids lashing out?

Not just the video. The photographs, too.

402 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:14:04am

re: #399 MandyManners

Were those rioters in Zombie's video the real thing or, were they just kids lashing out?

what's the difference?

403 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:15:09am

re: #393 BignJames

It gets worse.

.....that's perverse.

404 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:15:11am

re: #389 Killian Bundy

Some of them take sensitive missions/junkets.

/they need the facial hair to survive where they travel to, I'll give Richardson a pass, have no idea who Patterson is

Governor of New York. Richardson is Governor of New Mexico. Neither of them have undertaken any sensitive missions anywhere lately that I know of.

405 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:15:32am

re: #388 galloping granny

"Barrak Obama will lead us, heal us and help us rebuild the country we love."

These people are lunatics.

the only thing my country needs rebuilt are it's borders.

(we could tear down the tax code and d o good too, but that's a different story. %-)

406 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:17:04am

re: #400 redc1c4

good thing i got to the fixin's early then, eh?

/time to marinate %-)

red! :-)

I believe I'm marinated enough...

/thankyouverymuch

407 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:17:51am

re: #389 Killian Bundy

have no idea who Patterson is

New York Governor David Paterson (formerly Spitzer's Lieutenant Governor). Legally blind. Probably not as good at shaving himself as he might be otherwise.

408 BignJames  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:18:40am

re: #403 TheMatrix31

Yep....give "tax rebates" to people that don't pay taxes....the "rich" will pay for it. Buying votes?

409 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:18:57am

re: #403 TheMatrix31

.....that's perverse.



Obama would raise individual income taxes, increasing the top two income tax rates, with the top rate climbing by 13%, to almost 40%. This tax increase particularly hits small business, which creates the most new jobs in America.

* Obama would raise the top capital gains tax rate by 33%, to 20%.

* He would also raise the top dividends tax rate by 33%, to 20% as well.

* He would raise Social Security payroll taxes by 16% to 32% for families earning over $250,000 a year.


Its about time all you rich bastards pay your fair share!

Hey! where did all the rich business owners go?

410 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:20:01am

re: #409 ibmkeyboard

Come to Canada, we have better and more tax breaks. And we are moving in a more conservative direction. :)

411 akak  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:20:04am

re: #409 ibmkeyboard

Its about time all you rich bastards pay your fair share!

Hey! where did all the rich business owners go?

Nassau

412 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:21:41am

re: #409 ibmkeyboard

Its about time all you rich bastards pay your fair share!

Hey! where did all the rich business owners go?

What rich? Haha. I work at Baskin Robbins for eleven freakin' bucks an hour and I still think this is ridiculous.

I'm glad that my parents taught me that hard work is the only way to get anywhere in life.

413 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:21:44am

re: #404 galloping granny

Governor of New York. Richardson is Governor of New Mexico. Neither of them have undertaken any sensitive missions anywhere lately that I know of.

The blind guy, right? Yeah, I have no explanation.

Richardson's a proven, dependable envoy who can keep a secret.

/without high security clearances, we have very little idea about what our Executive Branch is really doing, because if we know, the enemy knows

414 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:22:37am

re: #410 BlueCanuck

Come to Canada, we have better and more tax breaks. And we are moving in a more conservative direction. :)

lo

if Obamessia wins-

packing my bags.

415 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:23:33am

re: #402 redc1c4

what's the difference?

Isn't the real-deal dedicated to the destruction of government?

416 Temujin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:23:40am

It's been real, folks. But it's time to make tracks. Dig you later . . .

417 akak  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:24:25am

re: #414 ibmkeyboard

lo

if Obamessia wins-

packing my bags.

You might not be let in as "one of them".

418 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:25:05am

Later Temujin take care, and don't let the mongol hordes get you down.

419 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:26:39am

re: #412 TheMatrix31

What rich? Haha. I work at Baskin Robbins for eleven freakin' bucks an hour and I still think this is ridiculous.

Almost as ridiculous as Gore-bull warming alarmists flying from conference-to-conference in learjets and insisting that your '91 Civic [hypothetical here, bear with me] that you use to drive to and from your $11 an hour job is melting the polar icecaps and dooming makind?

420 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:26:56am

See ya, Temujin! :-)

'Morning, Mandy! :-)

421 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:27:10am

re: #417 akak

You might not be let in as "one of them".

I forgot about the Obamessias 1 million govt. youst blue shirt guards.

/might have to have some Hispanics get me across the borders.

422 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:27:12am

re: #409 ibmkeyboard

Its about time all you rich bastards pay your fair share!

Hey! where did all the rich business owners go?

to jail for making so much money..... California Uber Alles!

Obama/Brown '08!

423 redc1c4  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:28:54am

re: #415 MandyManners

Isn't the real-deal dedicated to the destruction of government?

pretty sure they're just dedicated to destruction.....

424 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:30:45am