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Conventional Discussion Thread 6

Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:58:00 pm PDT

They’re going to take the roll call of delegates soon, and we’ll see whether Hillary’s last minute pleas succeeded in convincing many hardcore holdouts to join the Obamatons.

Also, several radical left wing groups have sponsored a concert by Rage Against My Allowance the Machine, going on now.

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1 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:58:26pm

As you wish....

2 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:58:55pm

Everything that I have heard leads me to believe that this is nothing more than a sham.

3 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:59:42pm

Her speech seemed forced to me. Almost as if the party had told her, 'work for party unity' or your finished.

4 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 1:59:55pm

Is this where we discuss the arrested ABC reporter for the press crime.

5 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:00:11pm

re: #3 CyanSnowHawk

Her speech seemed forced to me. Almost as if the party had told her, 'work for party unity' or your finished.

Of course that is what the party told her. Did you really think otherwise?

6 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:00:16pm

The hardcore Hill holdouts will not be swayed to obama's side.

You go, girls!

7 vxbush  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:00:49pm

Excuse me, but I'm confused. Hot Air has a story about the roll call actually taking place at the hotels. All they would be doing, then, is to read off the votes. Are they actually going to read them off a sheet, state by state? Or are they going to read just a summary?

Wow. Talk about hiding what your hands are doing.

8 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:01:14pm

re: #4 WrathofG-d

Is this where we discuss the arrested ABC reporter for the press crime.

I think Charles was posting this as that came up on the other thread. Hopefully somebody reported that and he will put up a "Press Crime" thread momentarily.

9 spirochete  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:01:25pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

I cannot believe I am actually looking forward to a Bill Clinton speech.

10 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:01:28pm

I once saw some people pouring out of a Rage Against the Machine concert. They could have rivaled Rage Boy and his ilk on a post Friday prayer session with their anger. It was scary.

11 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:01:33pm

re: #7 vxbush

Excuse me, but I'm confused. Hot Air has a story about the roll call actually taking place at the hotels. All they would be doing, then, is to read off the votes. Are they actually going to read them off a sheet, state by state? Or are they going to read just a summary?

Wow. Talk about hiding what your hands are doing.

No clue.

12 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:01:48pm

re: #9 spirochete

I cannot believe I am actually looking forward to a Bill Clinton speech.

Me too, but there is a first time for everything.

13 Cognito  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:02:59pm

Charles, I do hope that at some point this evening you might consider a post about the ABC reporter arrested for taking photos on a public sidewalk of Democratic Senators and their donors.

It's bigger than one reporter. It's indicative of a trend -- a threat -- emerging in the Obama mentality. Same goes for his attempt to use the DoJ to suppress the Ayers advertisment. Same goes for him tossing the New Yorker writer off the campaign trail, following the (ironically) unflattering cover. And so forth.

It's a big deal, I believe. Perhaps the biggest of the moment.

14 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:03:32pm

I think he's laughing at her.

15 vxbush  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:03:50pm

re: #13 Cognito

Charles, I do hope that at some point this evening you might consider a post about the ABC reporter arrested for taking photos on a public sidewalk of Democratic Senators and their donors.

It's bigger than one reporter. It's indicative of a trend -- a threat -- emerging in the Obama mentality. Same goes for his attempt to use the DoJ to suppress the Ayers advertisment. Same goes for him tossing the New Yorker writer off the campaign trail, following the (ironically) unflattering cover. And so forth.

It's a big deal, I believe. Perhaps the biggest of the moment.

I have to concur. Charles, please post this as a main story.

16 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:04:02pm

re: #8 galloping granny

re: #4 WrathofG-d

Is this where we discuss the arrested ABC reporter for the press crime.

I think Charles was posting this as that came up on the other thread. Hopefully somebody reported that and he will put up a "Press Crime" thread momentarily.

Granny, I just reported your #8 comment -- just in case. Let's hope this gets its own thread.

17 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:04:10pm

re: #13 Cognito

The Constitution is so antiquated in an Obamaian future.

Change you will have to believe in!

18 razorbacker  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:04:11pm

re: #7 vxbush

Excuse me, but I'm confused. Hot Air has a story about the roll call actually taking place at the hotels. All they would be doing, then, is to read off the votes. Are they actually going to read them off a sheet, state by state? Or are they going to read just a summary?

Wow. Talk about hiding what your hands are doing.

Misdirection. Used by all great magicians.

And I believe that this big ol' box is going to be just as empty as when the Presto-Chango guy disappears his lovely assistant.

19 snowcrash  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:04:15pm

CSPAN has the dancing delegates!

20 Maximu§  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:04:23pm

Rage against the Machine is a nice family oriented rock group and I'm sure they will inspire many un-decided voters to jump aboard the Obama train.

21 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:05:04pm

re: #13 Cognito

I just seconded you, by up-dinging and reporting your #13.

22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:05:13pm

Sigh, 4 hours of dealing with a customers problem, to finally have them say "oops, I messed up, nevermind."

23 misfit138  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:05:15pm

Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing RATM. Extra bonus is that anyone that you elbow in the pit, is probably a dirty "anachist" anyway. Win/Win.

24 vxbush  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:05:27pm

re: #18 razorbacker

Misdirection. Used by all great magicians.

And I believe that this big ol' box is going to be just as empty as when the Presto-Chango guy disappears his lovely assistant.

That is what concerns me. I hope the Republican convention sees this and makes sure that everything is completely above board and obvious.

25 doppelganglander  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:05:40pm

From Geraghty at NRO:

Obama Was Born To Run Without Springsteen

Dang, dang, dang. No Springsteen concert after Obama's acceptance speech. We won't be seeing The Rising, for a guy who, it turns out, was actually Born in the USA.

And it would have been such a nice closing, after the convention opened with Michelle Obama's Brilliant Disguise.

26 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:05:52pm
27 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:05:52pm

re: #7 vxbush

Excuse me, but I'm confused. Hot Air has a story about the roll call actually taking place at the hotels. All they would be doing, then, is to read off the votes. Are they actually going to read them off a sheet, state by state? Or are they going to read just a summary?

Wow. Talk about hiding what your hands are doing.

Just remember......the left projects big-time.

Remember "Selected, Not Elected" from 2000? Of course, now that THEY control the levers of power, "Selecting" is no longer a problem

Oh, and "Count Every Vote!"....probably tells us what's happening at the hotels and it reads more like "Count Every Vote I want Counted"

28 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:05:55pm
29 cliffster  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:06:09pm

re: #13 Cognito

And what was that someone mentioned earlier, that Fox would lose its press pass if it aired the Ayers commercial? Wasn't able to get any confirmation of that, but it goes along with the trend.

30 snowcrash  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:06:26pm

re: #20 Maximu§
Cover of the Temptations Get Ready is what is being played in the Convention Hall. Now another Motown hit.

31 cliffster  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:06:40pm

re: #17 WrathofG-d

The Constitution is so antiquated in an Obamaian future.

Change you will have to believe in!

Ha! "Oh, that is SOOOO 1776..."

32 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:06:43pm

re: #27 eschew_obfuscation

Oh, and "Count Every Vote!"....probably tells us what's happening at the hotels and it reads more like "Count Every Vote I want Counted"

Isn't that how it's always worked for them?

33 cblesz  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:06:47pm

If it wasn't so, so, so frightening the consequences...I would be hoping for Barry's election. It would be such a freaking nightmare that I could do an "I told you so" dance. But, I have two little girls and care about their future.

34 Cognito  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:06:56pm

re: #26 buzzsawmonkey

As I said in the previous thread, this is excellent news.

There is nothing that will harm the mainstream media love affair with Obama so thoroughly as one of their own oxen being gored.

Indeed. I think we should hold it aloft.

35 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:07:16pm

re: #32 Fat Jolly Penguin

Isn't that how it's always worked for them?

Well, for the moonbats anyway. Shoulda' clarified.

36 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:07:20pm

I wasn't sure what to expect last night before the speech. After it, I was fairly certain that the influence of the Clinton family was almost over. Her only chance to continue is to play nice and hope for Obama's defeat, then stage a comeback for 2012. Seems obvious now, but I really thought there was a chance that her speech would be thinly veiled disappointment or contempt of the newcomer, especially after Gloria Allred pulled that gagged Schism stunt yesterday.

37 Dianna  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:07:22pm
Also, several radical left wing groups have sponsored a concert by Rage Against My Allowance the Machine, going on now.

Charles, I'm going to be giggling about that all the way home and disturbing (!) my fellow train-riders!

Thanks!

38 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:07:29pm
39 razorbacker  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:07:38pm

re: #20 Maximu§

Rage against the Machine is a nice family oriented rock group and I'm sure they will inspire many un-decided voters to jump aboard the Obama train.

Got yer train ride right here.

40 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:07:43pm

re: #13 Cognito

Charles, I do hope that at some point this evening you might consider a post about the ABC reporter arrested for taking photos on a public sidewalk of Democratic Senators and their donors.

It's bigger than one reporter. It's indicative of a trend -- a threat -- emerging in the Obama mentality. Same goes for his attempt to use the DoJ to suppress the Ayers advertisment. Same goes for him tossing the New Yorker writer off the campaign trail, following the (ironically) unflattering cover. And so forth.

It's a big deal, I believe. Perhaps the biggest of the moment.

How did I miss that?

41 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:08:10pm

re: #13 Cognito

From your link:

A police official later told lawyers for ABC News that Eslocker is being charged with trespass, interference, and failure to follow a lawful order

He "trespassed", on a public sidewalk. How... interesting.

(Unless there's more to the story than we know from the ABCNews article, etc. etc.)

42 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:08:20pm

Ah, Rage Against the Machine. Everyone's favorite supporter of cop killers.

43 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:08:55pm

re: #20 Maximu§

Rage against the Machine is a nice family oriented rock group and I'm sure they will inspire many un-decided voters to jump aboard the Obama train.

Indeed.

/language warning!

44 Dustoff-507  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:09:45pm

re: #14 Sharmuta


Does Obama need glasses?

Think he's close enough to the TV.

45 Cognito  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:10:06pm

re: #41 Occasional Reader

From your link:

He "trespassed", on a public sidewalk. How... interesting.

(Unless there's more to the story than we know from the ABCNews article, etc. etc.)

That sounds like utter and transparent rubbish. He trespassed by taking photos they didn't want him to take, and his "failure to follow lawful orders" sounds like he didn't hand over his film/cards.

This is an enormous debacle for the Democrats. I think the worst of the Convention so far, by far.

46 kansas  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:10:23pm

re: #26 buzzsawmonkey

As I said in the previous thread, this is excellent news.

There is nothing that will harm the mainstream media love affair with Obama so thoroughly as one of their own oxen being gored.

They'll just seize the video and apologize for the "misunderstanding". Nothing to see here folks, just move along.

47 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:10:26pm

re: #37 Dianna

Charles, I'm going to be giggling about that all the way home and disturbing (!) my fellow train-riders!

GASP!
Does Salvatore actually GIGGLE?!
Say it isn't SO!

48 Maximu§  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:10:27pm

re: #26 buzzsawmonkey

As I said in the previous thread, this is excellent news.

There is nothing that will harm the mainstream media love affair with Obama so thoroughly as one of their own oxen being gored.


So much for the party of the "Common People"

49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:11:27pm

So one has to wonder, how much are the pro-socialism, anti-corporate, anti-establishment rockers Rage Against the Machine being paid by the Obama Campaign and how much are they getting from their corporate sponsors and merchandise sales for their appearance?

50 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:11:32pm

re: #41 Occasional Reader

From your link:

He "trespassed", on a public sidewalk. How... interesting.

(Unless there's more to the story than we know from the ABCNews article, etc. etc.)

The article says that the police said the sidewalk was owned by the hotel. Somehow I doubt that.

51 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:11:39pm

From what I'm hearing it's going to be an actual full roll call vote of all the states, A-W.

I don't think they come to the podium, but put a mike on each delegation head as they announce their state vote.

52 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:12:03pm
53 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:12:03pm

re: #44 Dustoff-507

Does Obama need glasses?

Are you implying that The One is less than physically perfect?!

GUARDS! SEIZE HIM! ARREST HIM FOR TRESPASSING!

54 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:12:54pm

re: #49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I wonder if they would rage against the machine when they get what they want then realize the machine they thought they wanted is the one they should have been raging against.

55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:13:06pm

re: #53 Occasional Reader

Are you implying that The One is less than physically perfect?!

GUARDS! SEIZE HIM! ARREST HIM FOR TRESPASSING!

Twow him to do gwound, owficer! Vewy woughwy!

56 opnion  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:13:11pm

re: #26 buzzsawmonkey

As I said in the previous thread, this is excellent news.

There is nothing that will harm the mainstream media love affair with Obama so thoroughly as one of their own oxen being gored.


I have believed from tha jump that Barry & the Mrs. are angry vindictive people. If you read him & listen to her, you can easily conclude that they believe that they have not gotten their full props because of their race.
They intend to punish this society & the rule of law be damned.

57 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:13:14pm

re: #31 cliffster

Let's be honest....there really wasn't any diversity at the time of the Constitution. The fact that the Chinese, Africans, and English weren't represented at its creation is enough to prove its being antiquated. We also cannot forget that it was created without the input of Womyn. How can we truly follow such a racist, sexist, and un diversse document, and otherwise expect it to represent the modern make up of the American people? Lastly, it cannot be ignored that this so-called Constitution was accepted without approval of the World community.

The U.S. Constitution: Racist, Sexist, Elitest, Stale, Arrogant -----Antiquated!

We need CHANGE!
/

58 Dianna  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:13:38pm

re: #47 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hon, Salvatore's a squirrel - of course giggling happens. As do snickering, chortling and outright laughter.

59 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:13:40pm

re: #53 Occasional Reader

Are you implying that The One is less than physically perfect?!

GUARDS! SEIZE HIM! ARREST HIM FOR TRESPASSING!

SEIZE THIS, HONKUS!

60 cliffster  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:13:42pm

re: #54 Sharmuta

I wonder if they would rage against the machine when they get what they want then realize the machine they thought they wanted is the one they should have been raging against.

That statement was too confusing for most people in Denver.

61 kansas  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:13:43pm

re: #52 buzzsawmonkey

ABC will surely not forgive this, and it will probably send an icy little spear through the guts of some of the other MSM organizations.

It certainly should.

Well you would think it would not forgive this, but something evil is afoot here and I have no confidence that even ABC will follow through with this. Excuse me while I adjust my tin foil hat.

62 Cognito  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:14:21pm

re: #50 CyanSnowHawk

The article says that the police said the sidewalk was owned by the hotel. Somehow I doubt that.

Utter trash. Regular citizens were walking on that sidewalk, and anywhere a citizen can go, a journalist can go.

63 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:14:27pm

That temple they are building ought to be dedicated to the Goddess Hillaria, patron of the PUMA.

64 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:14:50pm

re: #50 CyanSnowHawk

The article says that the police said the sidewalk was owned by the hotel. Somehow I doubt that.

Even if the sidewalk was owned by the hotel, the second that he was out in the road they had no right to have him arrested. And in most states, if you allow public passage across your property on a regular basis you lose the right to claim that the property is "private" - it becomes a public way.

65 Dustoff-507  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:14:59pm

re: #53 Occasional Reader


Opps, not me....

/run and hide like the rest of the rats. (-:

66 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:15:01pm

I also wonder what Zach would do as a parent if his kid were to tell him "F you, I won't do what you tell me." Pat them on the back and say that's my boy? Ground him? Kind of a conundrum.

67 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:15:03pm

Maybe Obama didn't need glasses, but now he's trying to appear experienced.

The glasses go with his new gray hair.

68 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:15:11pm

re: #58 Dianna

chortling and outright laughter.

Hopefully NOT while holding the tommy gun.

69 vxbush  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:15:21pm

re: #61 kansas

Well you would think it would not forgive this, but something evil is afoot here and I have no confidence that even ABC will follow through with this. Excuse me while I adjust my tin foil hat.

You suspect something ... nefarious?

70 Dustoff-507  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:15:23pm

re: #59 CyanSnowHawk


Talk to ABC... LOL

71 kansas  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:15:32pm

I wonder if that ABC reporter got some photos of the people who will be pulling Obama's strings?

72 maddogg  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:15:41pm

McCainocrats! Vote the hero, dump the zero!

73 Dustoff-507  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:15:51pm

re: #67 Silhouette


Nooooooooo not another Bill C

74 livefreeor die  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:16:15pm

Putin must be very proud of his new apprentice.

75 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:16:30pm

I love RATM. :(

76 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:16:41pm

With Dem's, it isn't all about the O, it is all about the A.

Appearance.

77 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:17:05pm

re: #62 Cognito

Utter trash. Regular citizens were walking on that sidewalk, and anywhere a citizen can go, a journalist can go.

If the sidewalk was in fact owned by the hotel (which I also think is doubtful), the public right of way in such places is, of course, revocable. If you walk into the lobby of the nearest Ritz-Carlton, you're not trespassing. If you make a scene, are asked to leave, and refuse, you ARE trespassing.

78 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:17:07pm

re: #75 WrathofG-d

I hope you're joking. They're big fans of cop killers.

79 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:17:09pm
80 kansas  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:17:20pm

re: #69 vxbush

I absolutely do. In fact I don't think Obama would be anywhere near Washington DC without nefarious being involved. He should be back in Chicago, or Jakarta, or wherever.

81 Dahveed  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:17:21pm
82 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:17:24pm

re: #62 Cognito

Utter trash. Regular citizens were walking on that sidewalk, and anywhere a citizen can go, a journalist can go.


re: #64 galloping granny

Even if the sidewalk was owned by the hotel, the second that he was out in the road they had no right to have him arrested. And in most states, if you allow public passage across your property on a regular basis you lose the right to claim that the property is "private" - it becomes a public way.

I agree with you both, I think the DPD officer was trying to pull off some BS and it will just add to the magnitude of the problem that was just created.

83 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:17:33pm
84 Misfit138  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:17:44pm

re: #66 Sharmuta


Zach would say "Come wid it now!"

85 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:17:45pm

re: #78 Wyatt Earp

I hope you're joking. They're big fans of cop killers.

They are "big fans" of all things "evil" in this world. So allow me to clarify....I really like RATM's music...but hate their message.

86 livefreeor die  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:17:46pm

re: #76 Silhouette

With Dem's, it isn't all about the O, it is all about the A.

Appearance.

Naah-with Billy Jeff it's about the O.

87 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:17:51pm

Here is song for RATM, Sell Out!

you're gonna go to the record store
you're gonna give 'em all your money
radio plays what they want you to hear
they tell me it's cool but I just don't believe it...

sell out, with me oh yea, sell out, with me tonight
record company's gonna give me lots of money
and everything's gonna be (all right).

88 opnion  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:17:59pm

re: #50 CyanSnowHawk

The article says that the police said the sidewalk was owned by the hotel. Somehow I doubt that.


Doesn't sound likely. If that is true, I wonder if I can just bar people from using the sidewalk in front of my house.
They got embarrased & some heavy hitter told the cop to take care of it & he went all Nazi.

89 alegrias  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:18:22pm

re: #10 Sharmuta

I once saw some people pouring out of a Rage Against the Machine concert. They could have rivaled Rage Boy and his ilk on a post Friday prayer session with their anger. It was scary.

* * *

Good observation & analysis.

Aren't most of us in the West over our teenage rage phase? Haven't we got better tools?

Sorry but superannuated rock musicians and their fans gross me out--I have moved on from rock & roll and teenage wasteland.

90 Dustoff-507  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:18:32pm

The news is talking about the ABC tussle.

91 solomonpanting  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:18:36pm

re: #2 galloping granny

Everything that I have heard leads me to believe that this is nothing more than a sham.

Wrestling has more credibility.

92 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:18:50pm

re: #85 WrathofG-d

Fair enough. I'm the same way with REM.

93 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:18:59pm

re: #79 buzzsawmonkey

No need to imagine....we have the U.N.

B'H I've never actually heard anyone advocate a present day Constitutional convention....

94 kansas  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:19:00pm

re: #90 Dustoff-507

The news is talking about the ABC tussle.

What news?

95 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:19:10pm

re: #13 Cognito

You are so right.

Obama is a passive aggressive Chicago thug.

CHANGE will come to mean the quarter you are handed to call your attorney after getting booked for your politcal crime of the day.

Riffing on this further, remember the language out of Michelle earlier in the campaign - "Barack will make you work"?

Holiday in Cambodia.

96 Shug  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:19:27pm

I like to listen to Rage against the machine when I am doing the stairclimber and lifting weights

but they are whores for corporate cash like everybody else.

97 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:19:36pm

re: #77 Occasional Reader

If the sidewalk was in fact owned by the hotel (which I also think is doubtful), the public right of way in such places is, of course, revocable. If you walk into the lobby of the nearest Ritz-Carlton, you're not trespassing. If you make a scene, are asked to leave, and refuse, you ARE trespassing.

That is not the same thing as the public sidewalk outside of the hotel, since it is impossible to pass the hotel without walking on the sidewalk.

98 alegrias  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:19:45pm

re: #9 spirochete

I cannot believe I am actually looking forward to a Bill Clinton speech.

* * *
He's free at last, free at last--to say what he really thinks.

99 Canadian Guy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:19:46pm

re: #90 Dustoff-507

The news is talking about the ABC tussle.

Which network?

100 SummerSong  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:19:55pm

Nice voice, Rosebud.

101 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:20:31pm
102 Empire1  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:20:47pm

Beautiful redition of the National Anthem!

103 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:21:00pm

re: #98 alegrias

* * *
He's free at last, free at last--to say what he really thinks.

He'd get arrested for sexual harassment.

104 Dustoff-507  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:21:13pm

re: #94 kansas


In WA state.... just a little burb. But even the news guy is going "WHAT"

105 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:21:21pm

Excerpt from Bill's speech tonight:

"I'd like to say what an honor and a privilege it is to be here tonight, but I've decided not to lie"

106 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:21:35pm

re: #64 galloping granny

Even if the sidewalk was owned by the hotel, the second that he was out in the road they had no right to have him arrested. And in most states, if you allow public passage across your property on a regular basis you lose the right to claim that the property is "private" - it becomes a public way.

That's only for portions of the property which have become public access by right. The hotel could own the sidewalk, but they don't own the right of way, and would have to get a permit to block access temporarily.

If you have a path across an acreage that has been used by people who do not own the property for many years, like a shortcut, you cannot subsequently block access or put it off limits. But people can't go traipsing all over the property, that is definitely trespass.

107 Bobblehead  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:21:41pm

From The Nose On Your Face Chronicles of the Obamessiah, Part II. Chris Matthews fans- make sure you stick arounf til the end..LOL

108 alegrias  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:21:44pm

re: #13 Cognito

Charles, I do hope that at some point this evening you might consider a post about the ABC reporter arrested for taking photos on a public sidewalk of Democratic Senators and their donors.

It's bigger than one reporter. It's indicative of a trend -- a threat -- emerging in the Obama mentality. Same goes for his attempt to use the DoJ to suppress the Ayers advertisment. Same goes for him tossing the New Yorker writer off the campaign trail, following the (ironically) unflattering cover. And so forth.

It's a big deal, I believe. Perhaps the biggest of the moment.

* * *
As Carly Simon sang, "INTIMIDATION"!

It's what totalitarians do. Does silencing speech and Gulags ring a bell?

109 Shug  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:22:07pm

re: #105 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Excerpt from Bill's speech tonight:

"I'd like to say what an honor and a privilege it is to be here tonight, but I've decided not to lie"

90% of his speech will be about what a wonderful job he did as president.

110 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:22:22pm

re: #77 Occasional Reader

If the sidewalk was in fact owned by the hotel (which I also think is doubtful), the public right of way in such places is, of course, revocable. If you walk into the lobby of the nearest Ritz-Carlton, you're not trespassing. If you make a scene, are asked to leave, and refuse, you ARE trespassing.

But revocation of an easement for general public use is not something you can effect without notifying the individual(s) before hand, and generally requires demonstration of some basis if challenged. Not that any of that prevented the cops from taking the guy into custody.

BTW - What ever happened to all that "truth to power" shit that Democrats like to blurb all of the time.

111 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:22:22pm

re: #105 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Excerpt from Bill's speech tonight:

"I'd like to say what an honor and a privilege it is to be here tonight, but I've decided not to lie"

Shhh! It's embargoed until after the speech is given.

112 Dustoff-507  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:22:40pm

re: #106 really grumpy big dog Johnson


This is going to backfire on the Denver police

Let's hope Obama too

113 livefreeor die  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:22:48pm

re: #109 Shug

90% of his speech will be about what a wonderful job he did as president.

He'll also have to pout about how he was portrayed during the campaign.

114 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:22:53pm
115 Canadian Guy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:22:57pm

Fox reporting Obama giving Bill Clinton just 10 minutes to speak. LOL

116 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:22:59pm

re: #108 alegrias

It's what totalitarians do. Does silencing speech and Gulags ring a bell?

Not if you rely on public schools or the current group of college profs out there

117 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:22:59pm

If the hotel in question is set back from the street, with their own parking lot around it, and the sidewalk is quite clearly completely on the hotel property, only surrounding the building, I still believe they are wrong to have arrested the press.

But the difference between that situation and a sideway along a public street will be important to some.

118 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:23:24pm
119 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:23:35pm

The nominating speeches- what is the point? This is all show.

120 Maximu§  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:23:40pm

re: #56 opnion


So this is the Change and Hope that Obama promised?

Big money donors and lobbyist that will not hesitate to use illegal police power to crush any kind of opposition?

I feel a warm tingling sensation on my leg.....oh, thats just spilled coffee.

121 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:23:45pm

re: #106 really grumpy big dog Johnson

If you have a path across an acreage that has been used by people who do not own the property for many years

Of course, smart business tend to make sure that right doesn't get generated, by blocking off access one day a year (or something similar).

122 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:24:03pm

re: #109 Shug

90% of his speech will be about what a wonderful job he Monica did as president.


/Fantasy Island for Lizards

123 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:24:14pm

re: #115 Canadian Guy

Fox reporting Obama giving Bill Clinton just 10 minutes to speak. LOL

Overheard by Clinton aides "Who the fuck does that little shit think he is to tell me I got 10 minutes?"

124 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:24:14pm

re: #115 Canadian Guy

Fox reporting Obama giving Bill Clinton just 10 minutes to speak. LOL

The podium fluffer is going to have to work fast.

125 livefreeor die  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:24:40pm

re: #115 Canadian Guy

Fox reporting Obama giving Bill Clinton just 10 minutes to speak. LOL

They can forget that-he'll be just starting. Remember the nominating speech he gave for Dukakis!

126 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:24:41pm
127 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:24:42pm
128 Canadian Guy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:24:54pm

Adding insult to injury. Fox says Biden will get 20 minutes to Clinton's 10.

129 Shug  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:25:31pm

re: #115 Canadian Guy

Fox reporting Obama giving Bill Clinton just 10 minutes to speak. LOL

He will preen and bask in his perceived greatness for 10 minutes before starting

Theme for Bill's speech

I was great.
You wish I was still in the game
You need me.
I am great.
Hillary should be the nominee
but she ain't due to dirty tricks
so
Vote for the black guy and feel good about yourself

130 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:25:34pm

re: #128 Canadian Guy

Adding insult to injury. Fox says Biden will get 20 minutes to Clinton's 10.

No one puts Baby Bubba in the corner!

131 Canadian Guy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:25:35pm

re: #127 ploome hineni

what channel are we watching?

CNNBCFox

132 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:25:35pm

re: #114 buzzsawmonkey

Did you read his suggestions? Wow. (1) Permanant civilian timelines to wars. (2) new Constitition every 19 years (3) States with more people get extra seats. (tyrany of the majority) (4) President must only be "citizen" for 20 years. ...

I can't read more now.....

133 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:25:35pm

re: #123 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Overheard by Clinton aides "Who the fuck does that little shit think he is to tell me I got 10 minutes?"

What are they going to do? Turn off the mikes on a President of the United States of America? That'll look real nice.

134 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:25:51pm

re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sigh, 4 hours of dealing with a customers problem, to finally have them say "oops, I messed up, nevermind."

Keel them!

/That is what the Hamas Help Desk would do.

135 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:25:52pm

re: #117 Silhouette

Nope, just looked. This is a downtown hotel.

136 Dianna  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:26:09pm

re: #68 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hopefully NOT while holding the tommy gun.

Um...I think it depends on the circumstances.

137 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:26:14pm

re: #130 Sharmuta

No one puts Baby Bubba in the corner!

ROTFLMAO!

138 livefreeor die  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:26:15pm

re: #128 Canadian Guy

Adding insult to injury. Fox says Biden will get 20 minutes to Clinton's 10.

Obama's people are going to poke Billy Jeff one too many times with the stick and it is going to blow up in their faces.
Hopefully tonight!

139 Maximu§  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:26:17pm

re: #123 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Overheard by Clinton aides "Who the fuck does that little shit think he is to tell me I got 10 minutes?"

I Hope Bill Clinton walks out with his middle-finger trailing behind.

140 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:26:38pm
141 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:26:40pm

re: #117 Silhouette

If the hotel in question is set back from the street

It isn't, at least not the main entrance. (I've seen it... very nice hotel, as you probably guessed.)

142 J.S.  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:27:05pm

re: #109 Shug

Actually, Obama has given clinton his "talking points" -- and it's not supposed to be about Clinton and the Economy...Oh, No! (that might remind Democrats about Moderates as opposed to Radicals)...So, Clinton is supposed to address "Security Issues." (note: that's the one failing during the Clinton Administration and what, of course, the little Fascist bigoted racist bas-0d wants Clinton to elaborate upon -- the commie thug!)

143 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:27:11pm

re: #130 Sharmuta

No one puts Baby Bubba in the corner!

The Pop Culture Fu is strong with this one...

144 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:27:13pm

re: #128 Canadian Guy

Adding insult to injury. Fox says Biden will get 20 minutes to Clinton's 10.

Insult to injury seems to be the theme of this convention.

145 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:27:36pm

re: #134 karmic_inquisitor

Keel them!

/That is what the Hamas Help Desk would do.

My battle cry of "Fuck it, I'm on salary" rings out as I take the lunch I missed and my break back to back and leave an hour early.

146 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:27:36pm

re: #140 buzzsawmonkey

Yes. And did you notice he is an academic?

Don't think that this is not a fire burning deep in the mine.

And reflected rather well in Obama's "perfect our union" meme. . . .

147 opnion  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:27:46pm

re: #120 Maximu§

So this is the Change and Hope that Obama promised?

Big money donors and lobbyist that will not hesitate to use illegal police power to crush any kind of opposition?

I feel a warm tingling sensation on my leg.....oh, thats just spilled coffee.


Obama cut his teeth in corrupt Chicago/Cook County politics.
He sees this as normal & throw in his sense of being entitled to have no scrutiny or criticism. Dangerous guy.

148 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:28:04pm

re: #143 Occasional Reader

The Pop Culture Fu is strong with this one...

Bubba Fu? Clenis Kwon Do?

149 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:28:07pm

re: #115 Canadian Guy

Fox reporting Obama giving Bill Clinton just 10 minutes to speak. LOL

That's a fact, and he's the first speaker of the evening, right at 7 pm local time. Few people are likely to see him speak, although I expect FSN to cover it, and C-SPAN will of course.

150 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:28:28pm

Street view around the Brown Palace Hotel

If you'd like to virtually walk around it yourself.

151 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:28:30pm
152 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:28:52pm

Is it racist because it is the Brown Palace?

153 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:29:12pm

re: #149 really grumpy big dog Johnson

That's a fact, and he's the first speaker of the evening, right at 7 pm local time. Few people are likely to see him speak, although I expect FSN to cover it, and C-SPAN will of course.

That was a deliberate insult too.

154 Shug  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:29:20pm

Nobody tells the Clenis what to say and how to say it

155 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:29:23pm

Rage Against My Allowance.

Gold plated WIN!

156 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:29:58pm

re: #121 Occasional Reader

Of course, smart business tend to make sure that right doesn't get generated, by blocking off access one day a year (or something similar).

Only one day a year? Would that dodge even FLY?

157 razorbacker  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:30:05pm

re: #115 Canadian Guy

Fox reporting Obama giving Bill Clinton just 10 minutes to speak. LOL

BillyJeff can't say 'hello' in ten minutes. Imagine how long he's going to take to say 'goodbye'.

Or maybe, 'until we meet again, my good friends.'

158 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:30:10pm

re: #152 Silhouette

Is it racist because it is the Brown Palace?

Do they call there memoranda Brown Notes?

159 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:30:26pm

re: #136 Dianna

Hopefully NOT while holding the tommy gun.

Um...I think it depends on the circumstances.

Fade-in on the screen:
Denver downtown park - full of moonbats
Cue squirrel scampering down tree.
Squirrel begins laughing.

160 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:30:53pm

re: #148 karmic_inquisitor

Bubba Fu? Clenis Kwon Do?

Redneck Martial Arts (i.e. beaning them with a half full beer bottle and kicking them while calling them "MFer").

Personally, I prefer Italian Martial Arts. "Vinnie! Bobbie! Jump this guy!"

161 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:31:09pm

re: #154 Shug

Nobody tells the Clenis what to say and how to say it

And before he got elected POTUS, they used to complain about how he would talk too long - like Biden.

They can give him 10 minutes. The Clenis will take 30. What are they going to do - pull him off the stage? Cut the microphone?

162 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:31:12pm
163 Outrider  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:31:13pm

re: #119 Sharmuta

The nominating speeches- what is the point? This is all show.

The DNC lied; Clintonians cried.

164 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:31:21pm

re: #158 CyanSnowHawk

...their... PIMF

165 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:31:21pm

The Man from Hope gets short changed.

166 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:31:50pm

re: #156 NomadOfNorad

Only one day a year? Would that dodge even FLY?

Under common law principles, yes.

Varies state by state, though.

167 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:31:55pm

re: #159 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Fade-in on the screen:
Denver downtown park - full of moonbats
Cue squirrel scampering down tree.
Squirrel begins laughing.

Squirrel drops dead from stroke, having never seen so many nuts in one place.

168 kansas  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:31:59pm

re: #165 Sharmuta

The Man from Hope gets short changed.

Now there's some change we can believe in.

169 livefreeor die  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:32:08pm

re: #161 karmic_inquisitor

And before he got elected POTUS, they used to complain about how he would talk too long - like Biden.

They can give him 10 minutes. The Clenis will take 30. What are they going to do - pull him off the stage? Cut the microphone?

Maybe they'll play music loudly, like the Academy Awards. Or have a hot blonde start gesturing to him from off stage.

170 The Other Les  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:32:16pm

re: #132 WrathofG-d

(4) President must only be "citizen" for 20 years. ...


I remember an editorial cartoon where Gorbachev was running for President on the Democratic ticket because he needed the job.

171 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:32:34pm

re: #132 WrathofG-d

Did you read his suggestions? Wow. (1) Permanant civilian timelines to wars. (2) new Constitition every 19 years (3) States with more people get extra seats. (tyrany of the majority) (4) President must only be "citizen" for 20 years. ...

I can't read more now.....

How often do other major Democratic countries change out their constitutions, charters, etc? I've heard some do that sort of theing regularly. Not a happy thought, that, actually... :-|

172 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:32:39pm

re: #140 buzzsawmonkey

With all this "government will save you" rehashed Socialism being popular today...i have no doubt that the U.S. could go down that path. 1/2 of the Cournty just might follow an empty cult-of-personality into the most powerful position on earth.

But then again I'm a person that thinks that something horrible for Jews is going to happen in the U.S. eventually anyway...so...I'll see you in H'Eretz.

173 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:32:46pm

Pelosi and Co. are treating the nominating and seconding speeches like they are academy awards. Just get on with it, nobody cares what these people are saying.

174 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:32:58pm

re: #165 Sharmuta

The Man from Hope gets short changed sheeted.

poetic ,, yet racist !

175 razorbacker  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:33:08pm

re: #160 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Redneck Martial Arts (i.e. beaning them with a half full beer bottle and kicking them while calling them "MFer").

Personally, I prefer Italian Martial Arts. "Vinnie! Bobbie! Jump this guy!"

That, Sir, is a lie, a damned lie, and quite possibly hides a statistic. There isn't a redneck alive who would so mistreat a half full beer bottle.

Now an empty, sure, we can talk about that.

176 Dianna  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:33:35pm

re: #161 karmic_inquisitor

Now that would be quite a sight.

Kind of like Oingo Boingo on the Gong Show - they were so loud, they couldn't hear the gong. So they kept going.

177 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:33:57pm

By the way, somebody mailed Fox calling Obama's Coronation set The Barrakopolis.

178 Outrider  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:33:58pm

re: #160 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Redneck Martial Arts (i.e. beaning them with a half full beer bottle and kicking them while calling them "MFer").

Personally, I prefer Italian Martial Arts. "Vinnie! Bobbie! Jump this guy!"

Excellent. We talking about Billy Carter now?

179 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:34:05pm

re: #10 Sharmuta


I once saw some people pouring out of a Rage Against the Machine concert. They could have rivaled Rage Boy and his ilk on a post Friday prayer session with their anger. It was scary.

That was me. I was pissed 'cuz I felt ripped off. Lousy sound system, poor mixing, and they sounded like they hadn't practiced in months.

Plus, the mosh pit was full of wussies. I didn't even get a bruise.
/

180 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:34:23pm

Who is this so-called Republican nominating obama?

181 Dianna  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:34:25pm

re: #167 OldLineTexan

Squirrel drops dead from stroke, having never seen so many nuts in one place.

Do I need to change my avatar? Are you getting tired of Dapper Squirrel?

182 Shug  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:34:39pm

re: #161 karmic_inquisitor

They can give him 10 minutes. The Clenis will take 30. What are they going to do - pull him off the stage? Cut the microphone?


How about they cut his mic and the orchestra starts playing like they do at the Oscars.

183 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:35:23pm

re: #180 Sharmuta

Who is this so-called Republican nominating obama?

Some anonymous schmuck who says he was a republican and is a veteran.

184 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:35:40pm

I think Hillary's delegates should just walk out- leave the arena half full.

185 snowcrash  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:35:45pm

re: #180 Sharmuta
A life-long Republican at that!

186 quickjustice  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:35:58pm

My guess is that they'll have that long white hook ready to yank Clinton offstage, like in the old vaudeville days.

187 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:36:01pm

re: #181 Dianna

Do I need to change my avatar? Are you getting tired of Dapper Squirrel?

No, but I would be worried if it was in the park looking at the moonbats. ;)

188 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:36:21pm

re: #181 Dianna

Do I need to change my avatar? Are you getting tired of Dapper Squirrel?

NO! KEEP SALVATORE!

189 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:36:29pm

re: #163 Outrider

The DNC lied; Clintonians cried.

HEH! I'd nominate this one for rotating title, but we don't seem to be doing those anymore... :-|

190 Dianna  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:36:44pm

Back in a bit.

191 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:36:54pm

re: #175 razorbacker

That, Sir, is a lie, a damned lie, and quite possibly hides a statistic. There isn't a redneck alive who would so mistreat a half full beer bottle.

Now an empty, sure, we can talk about that.

I will argue the volume of beer in the bottle at the time of the fight is likely proportional to the volume of beer in the Redneck.

192 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:36:55pm

re: #181 Dianna

Do I need to change my avatar? Are you getting tired of Dapper Squirrel?

I vote 'no.' He's sooooooooo handsome!

193 offendi  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:37:11pm

To put this in a historical perspective, this is like the Stanlinists vs. the Trotskyites. There will be a major purge in the democratic party after McCain wins the next election by about 3 percentage points.

On the bright side Hillary will set up special re-education camps for the Kossites and the Huffington crowd. Does Bill Richardson have a safe house in Mexico he can go to?

194 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:37:30pm

re: #187 OldLineTexan

No, but I would be worried if it was in the park looking at the moonbats. ;)

You weren't following the conversation up-thread. Either that, or I should have scripted-in that the squirrel was carrying a violin case.

195 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:38:02pm

re: #193 offendi

Does Bill Richardson have a safe house in Mexico he can go to?

He thinks the facial hair disguises him

196 kansas  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:38:03pm

re: #193 offendi

To put this in a historical perspective, this is like the Stanlinists vs. the Trotskyites. There will be a major purge in the democratic party after McCain wins the next election by about 3 percentage points.

On the bright side Hillary will set up special re-education camps for the Kossites and the Huffington crowd. Does Bill Richardson have a safe house in Mexico he can go to?

No but there's a Taco Bell in Yucca Mountain.

197 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:38:28pm

Fox just said that people voted this morning at their hotels. This is a sham.

198 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:38:33pm

re: #194 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You weren't following the conversation up-thread. Either that, or I should have scripted-in that the squirrel was carrying a violin case.

No, I just came in for a drive-by before launching off on kid taxi duty. Sorry if I ruined the meme*.

*one of my new words

199 LEGION  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:38:43pm

re: #193 offendi

Well we already have the Pravda Press aka The Mainstream Media. Sure, sounds logical to me.

200 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:38:54pm

Obama intimidation tactics in Texas caucuses caught on camera.

201 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:39:00pm

re: #197 galloping granny

Fox just said that people voted this morning at their hotels. This is a sham.

many chose WAFFLES

202 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:39:13pm

re: #197 galloping granny

Fox just said that people voted this morning at their hotels. This is a sham.

That vote was just scrambled vs. fried. The hotel lied, the eggs fried.

203 Outrider  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:39:37pm

re: #191 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I will argue the volume of beer in the bottle at the time of the fight is likely proportional to the volume of beer in the Redneck.

Bottles are easier to handle, but there are few things more satisfying than hearing a loud resounding thunk when a full beer can goes off some old boys head. Then, you can still drink the beer after it calms down a little.

204 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:39:44pm

Hillary's people should just walk out.

205 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:39:45pm

re: #197 galloping granny

Fox just said that people voted this morning at their hotels. This is a sham.

Next thing you know, a delegate named Chad will hang himself in protest...

206 Canadian Guy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:39:54pm

re: #182 Shug

How about they cut his mic and the orchestra starts playing like they do at the Oscars.

And this will be the music the band will play

207 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:39:57pm

re: #200 karmic_inquisitor

Obama intimidation tactics in Texas caucuses caught on camera.

Obamidation?

Was Michelle handing out wedgies and purple nurples?

208 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:39:58pm

Ken Salazar in trademark cowboy hat nominates Obama. He ain't no cowboy, that's for certain.

209 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:40:19pm

re: #202 OldLineTexan

That vote was just scrambled vs. fried. The hotel lied, the eggs fried.

They sentenced the eggs to the electric chair?!?!?!? :D :D :D

210 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:40:24pm

re: #178 Outrider

Excellent. We talking about Billy Carter now?

Which brings up the very threatening Aquatic Rabbit Fu.

211 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:41:01pm

re: #204 Sharmuta

Hillary's people should just walk out.

Well that would certainly give us the schism we want in the DNC.

212 FrogMarch  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:41:02pm

Kill the Kapitalist Pigs!

(but let me eat my Taco Bell and Twinkies first)

213 offendi  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:41:19pm

re: #173 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Pelosi and Co. are treating the nominating and seconding speeches like they are academy awards. Just get on with it, nobody cares what these people are saying.

Nancy is going to have to join a nunnery and actually learn about her own religion after this election. Dirty Harry, and The Screamer Dean should also get into some form of penitence.

214 quickjustice  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:41:22pm

re: #197 galloping granny

That's a lie. They did it Chicago-style, out in the cemetery.

215 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:41:33pm
216 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:42:05pm

re: #207 OldLineTexan

Obamidation?

Was Michelle handing out wedgies and purple nurples?

Wedgies of Hope and Purple Nurples of Change.

/"Barack will make you work."

217 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:42:13pm

Selected, not elected!

218 kansas  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:42:53pm

re: #217 Sharmuta

Selected, not elected!


Yeah, but it's OK when it's our guy that is seeeeeeeeeeelected.

219 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:42:59pm

re: #200 karmic_inquisitor

Obama intimidation tactics in Texas caucuses caught on camera.

Wow. That woman was stroking out, the blond girl is a wimp, and I had no idea Bozo the clown was a black woman now (see background in beginning).

I FEAR for this country.

220 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:43:00pm

This woman thinks barry supports Israel!

Yeah- that's why he called them a constant sore.

221 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:43:01pm

Here it is in the Wall Street Journal.

Clinton Releases Delegates

222 MoonbatBane  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:43:02pm

re: #26 buzzsawmonkey

There is nothing that will harm the mainstream media love affair with Obama so thoroughly as one of their own oxen being gored.

I doubt it. More likely the reporter will be sanctioned and/or fired for daring to take photos that could challenge the meme that the MSM (including ABC) have been instructed to put forth by their Party commisars.

223 yochanan  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:43:05pm

re: #175 razorbacker

That, Sir, is a lie, a damned lie, and quite possibly hides a statistic. There isn't a redneck alive who would so mistreat a half full beer bottle.

Now an empty, sure, we can talk about that.

who said that half filled bottle was beer was the stuff warm to the touch?

224 offendi  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:43:53pm

re: #195 sattv4u2

Does Bill Richardson have a safe house in Mexico he can go to?

He thinks the facial hair disguises him

Doesn't he kind of look a bit like "Chemical Ali", Sadam's (hanged?) brother-in-law, a bit now?

225 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:44:01pm

re: #193 offendi

On the bright side Hillary will set up special re-education camps for the Kossites and the Huffington crowd. Does Bill Richardson have a safe house in Mexico he can go to?

He's gonna need it. I heard he was schmoozing the press during Hillary's speech.

226 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:44:13pm

Hahaha - Geraldine Ferraro just blamed the media for the mess this convention has become.

227 Canadian Guy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:44:15pm

What is this "sexist campaign" Geraldine Ferraro speaks of? Sorry if I missed it.

228 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:44:34pm

re: #169 livefreeor die

... have a hot blonde start gesturing to him from off stage.

Hadn't thought of that one - that is kryptonite to Clenis Kwon Do.

229 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:45:17pm

re: #228 karmic_inquisitor

Hadn't thought of that one - that is kryptonite to Clenis Kwon Do.

He made it through the hot blondes. It's the brunette chubbies that did him in.

230 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:45:28pm

re: #219 OldLineTexan

Wow. That woman was stroking out, the blond girl is a wimp, and I had no idea Bozo the clown was a black woman now (see background in beginning).

I FEAR for this country.

Yeah - that is what we are up against. Good motivator for the GOTV.

231 OldLineTexan  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:45:50pm

re: #229 OldLineTexan

He made it through the hot blondes. It's the brunette chubbies that did him in.

Uh, not that there's anything wrong with brunette chubbies. ;)

232 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:45:52pm

re: #229 OldLineTexan

He made it through the hot blondes. It's the brunette chubbies that did him in.

Ouch.

233 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:46:31pm

re: #226 galloping granny

Hahaha - Geraldine Ferraro just blamed the media for the mess this convention has become.

She can't go the racial route anymore.

234 jill e  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:46:50pm

I heard that everyone watching Obama's Thursday night speech are going to be yelling, "Toga! Toga! Toga!"

235 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:46:51pm

re: #229 OldLineTexan

He made it through the hot blondes. It's the brunette chubbies that did him in.

Sounds like a video game ;~)

236 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:46:53pm

re: #220 Sharmuta

This woman thinks barry supports Israel!

Yeah- that's why he called them a constant sore.

I think one of the moonbats at work does as well. At least he's trying to get other Kos-kids to help him convince me.
Fat f*ing chance; 0bamanation has made far TOO MANY "slips", and has all anti-Israel advisers, but the moonbat hasn't heard all I know.
Judging from the responses he's gotten, I don't think he'll even be able to start. They know their candidate is anti-Israel.

237 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:47:17pm
238 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:47:38pm

re: #221 CyanSnowHawk

Here it is in the Wall Street Journal.

Clinton Releases Delegates

If youlove something, set it free.

If they come back, they are yours.

If they don't, they never were.

/They love her.

BBL

239 offendi  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:47:51pm

If I was Obama I would worry that the Clintons gave (The Reverend) Jesse Jackson a contract to do what he whispered he wanted to do during his Fox News interview.

Trust no one, Barack Obama!

240 StinkHammer  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:47:56pm
several radical left wing groups have sponsored a concert by Rage Against My Allowance the Machine, going on now.

I thought Rage Against the Machine was kaput....

241 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:48:05pm

re: #226 galloping granny

Hahaha - Geraldine Ferraro just blamed the media for the mess this convention has become.

As Schiller almost wrote:

Schadenfreude, schöner Götterfunken
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische, dein Heiligtum!

242 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:48:11pm

re: #238 karmic_inquisitor

Heh! :D :D :D

243 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:48:30pm

re: #213 offendi

Nancy is going to have to join a nunnery and actually learn about her own religion after this election. Dirty Harry, and The Screamer Dean should also get into some form of penitence.

It was great that she was scolded and told she has no right to take communion if that is the way she believes. The church is not happy with her.

244 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:48:47pm

re: #237 buzzsawmonkey

Given the Greek Temple being set up, she probably meant Medea.

oooooooooooooo!
*rimshot*

245 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:49:02pm

re: #240 StinkHammer

I thought Rage Against the Machine was kaput....

As with any band, that only lasts until you are out of money.

246 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:49:11pm

It took 49 minutes to nominate two candidates. What a crock!

247 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:49:14pm

re: #237 buzzsawmonkey

Given the Greek Temple being set up, she probably meant Medea.

Code Pink!

248 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:49:18pm

re: #226 galloping granny

Hahaha - Geraldine Ferraro just blamed the media for the mess this convention has become.

I blame my mailman that I don';t have more money in the checking account. I tell him if he'll just stop bringing those bills ,,,,,,,,

249 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:49:24pm

re: #238 karmic_inquisitor

If youlove something, set it free.

If they come back, they are yours.

If they don't, they never were.

/They love her.

BBL

But the real vote was held behind closed doors. Whatever they say it is under these circumstances is a complete fiction.

250 solomonpanting  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:49:25pm

Hillary Rodham Clinton's name placed in nomination

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

251 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:49:43pm
252 Canadian Guy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:49:48pm

Roll Call starting now.

253 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:49:59pm

re: #248 sattv4u2

I blame my mailman that I don';t have more money in the checking account. I tell him if he'll just stop bringing those bills ,,,,,,,,

Buahahahahahahahaha! God one!

254 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:50:04pm

Is there a link to the DNC rules?

255 debutaunt  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:50:10pm

re: #62 Cognito

Utter trash. Regular citizens were walking on that sidewalk, and anywhere a citizen can go, a journalist can go.

Woo hoo.

256 snowcrash  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:50:23pm

Finally the roll call.....

257 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:50:45pm

re: #254 Sharmuta

Is there a link to the DNC rules?

smallest book in the world

258 snowcrash  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:51:01pm

Alabama casts 5 votes for Clinton!

259 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:51:01pm

re: #255 debutaunt

Woo hoo.

Is Cognito implying that journalists don't get enough fiber in their diet?

260 Halman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:51:16pm

re: #251 buzzsawmonkey

It's work to rule.

This is torture !

261 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:51:38pm
262 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:51:44pm

re: #253 NomadOfNorad

Buahahahahahahahaha! God one!

PIMF! Good one, not God one!

263 Zoltan  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:51:56pm

DNC rules.....subject to change without notice.

264 offendi  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:52:02pm

re: #198 OldLineTexan

No, I just came in for a drive-by before launching off on kid taxi duty. Sorry if I ruined the meme*.

*one of my new words

The Clintons will seat Maureen Dowd and Frank Rich right next to old Markos and Ariana in the camps, trust me.

265 StinkHammer  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:52:04pm

re: #245 CyanSnowHawk

As with any band, that only lasts until you are out of money.

Brings to mind one of my favorite articles from Reason magazine. Really shows people like Rage to be the schmucks that they are.

266 the lizard  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:52:35pm

OMG obama's motorcade just went by my office...i'm resisting fainting! ahhh!

/sarc of course

267 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:52:43pm

re: #254 Sharmuta

Is there a link to the DNC rules?

Why?.....if you found something purporting to be DNC rules, it would be useless..... since they change whatever is written to mean something else whenever it becomes inconvenient.

268 Canadian Guy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:52:53pm

I can't wait for New York to vote "present"

269 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:53:05pm

re: #256 snowcrash

Finally the roll call.....

The FAKE vote.

270 Bobblehead  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:53:34pm

Back in the day roll calls were made during the prime time hours.

271 offendi  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:54:11pm

re: #243 really grumpy big dog Johnson

It was great that she was scolded and told she has no right to take communion if that is the way she believes. The church is not happy with her.

Question is whether she is considered to be a lapsed Catholic or just an ignoramus. If she does not know the religion she belongs to and chooses, what does that say about her intellectual abilities and grasp of issues?

272 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:54:28pm

GGEEEZZ ,, look at THIS guy ,,,, 10-1 he has kiddie porn on his puter

273 snowcrash  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:54:37pm

re: #270 Bobblehead
That's what I remember too! It was a family viewing kind of event.

274 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:54:38pm

Arizona 40 for Obama, 27 for Clinton

275 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:55:12pm

re: #261 ploome hineni

Bill ichardson is an 'anchor baby'........the family sent his mother to California to give birth

then went back with Bill to Mexico, where he grew up

Your facts are correct, but I don't think "anchor baby" applies, since his mother was married to an American, who made the arrangements you describe.

276 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:55:20pm

re: #274 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Arizona 40 for Obama, 27 for Clinton

Florida and Michigan will be the ones to watch for.

277 Canadian Guy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:55:38pm

Arkansas gives all votes to Obama. Didn't they know Hillary really didn't mean it.

278 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:55:54pm

Arkansas 47 Obama 0 Clinton

279 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:56:16pm

Wow! The speaker for Arkansas didn't even read there tally, and the Secretary said the vote for them.

280 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:56:25pm

It's definitely the fake vote. The won't get to "H" before there is a call for nomination by acclamation.

281 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:56:29pm

Did I miss Alaska's vote?

282 snowcrash  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:56:43pm

Calif is huge, all those delegates, 441 California passes?

283 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:56:56pm

California passes.

284 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:57:08pm

re: #281 Silhouette

Did I miss Alaska's vote?

it's frozen for posterity,, like Walt Disney's head

285 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:57:08pm

Obama stadium set finished! Pictures just in!

286 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:57:17pm
287 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:57:20pm

re: #282 snowcrash

Calif is huge, all those delegates, 441 California passes?

The game is afoot.

288 Bobblehead  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:57:21pm

re: #273 snowcrash

That's what I remember too! It was a family viewing kind of event.

Always an opportunity for fun and silliness on the part of the individual state delegations. Ah..the good old days.

289 harrijs  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:57:24pm

WTF does "California passes" mean?

290 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:57:29pm

Well, dinner is ready here... bbl...

Have fun, lizards...!

291 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:57:30pm

But California passed.

292 The Shadow Do  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:57:30pm

I'm looking for a magnanimous speech from the impeached ex-president. Got to keep polishing that image up don't you know.

In the meantime, the Arkansas organization will be putting the Chicago crowd to the mattresses.

This will be like the Christening scene in the Godfather. Lot's of folks going down while the Bill "The Don" does his respectable thing.

293 Canadian Guy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:57:34pm

re: #282 snowcrash

Calif is huge, all those delegates, 441 California passes?

It's to make sure New York or Illinois is the state that puts Obama over the magic number.

294 HoosierHoops  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:57:45pm

California passed on voting?
What?

295 bellamags  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:57:46pm

Does anyone think Hillary regrets developing a fiercely loyal base?

296 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:57:57pm

California passes ... color me ignorant, what does that mean in the tactical sense?

297 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:58:18pm

re: #289 harrijs

Out of politeness to the smaller states, they withhold their huge vote block, so to delay the moment Obama goes over the winning amount longer.

298 Empire1  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:58:33pm

California PASSES?

299 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:58:36pm

re: #289 harrijs

WTF does "California passes" mean?

They're not having their delegates tallied. They're waiting for Illinois to call the whole thing for obama.

300 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:58:39pm

The vote will come back around to California later.

301 harrijs  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:58:54pm

re: #297 Silhouette

Thanks for the explanation!

302 snowcrash  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:58:54pm

re: #293 Canadian Guy
Makes sense. Thanks.

303 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:59:12pm

Thanks all. Now I'm getting it.

304 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:59:15pm

re: #291 galloping granny

re: #294 HoosierHoops

They can defer until a "better time" They'll probably try to squeeze in when Obama is just about to get the required number, so it is THEIR vote that puts him over the top

305 Zoltan  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:59:36pm

California passing allows more states to get their mugs on TV before Obama goes over the top.

306 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:59:39pm

re: #281 Silhouette

Did I miss Alaska's vote?

Obama 48 Clinto 5

307 Halman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:59:41pm

re: #281 Silhouette

Did I miss Alaska's vote?

15 bo 3 hil

308 Canadian Guy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:59:42pm

re: #302 snowcrash

Makes sense. Thanks.

There's also the possibility that California might have moved Hillary ahead of Obama in the vote tally, according to Bill Hemmer.

309 harrijs  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 2:59:45pm

Does anyone know of a real-time running tally anywhere on the interwebs?

310 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:00:02pm

re: #296 pre-Boomer Marine brat

see my 304

311 akak  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:00:07pm

Whats up with Obama & Khalid al Mansour?

312 opnion  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:00:10pm

I undrerstand that emergency policies ar in place tomorrow night for the acceptance speach.
A helicopter is at the ready to transport Chris Matthews to a trauma center if he goes into advanced traumatic tingles.

313 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:00:10pm

re: #49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So one has to wonder, how much are the pro-socialism, anti-corporate, anti-establishment rockers Rage Against the Machine being paid by the Obama Campaign and how much are they getting from their corporate sponsors and merchandise sales for their appearance?

RAtM are phonies, sellouts! At least SoaD keeps it real, man.
/

314 Outrider  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:00:19pm

re: #238 karmic_inquisitor

If youlove something, set it free.

If they come back, they are yours.

If they don't, they never were.

/They love her.

BBL

"I think it is reflective of the unity that I sense that is building across the party," Mr. Corzine said. "That doesn't mean there won't be outliers that are still heartbroken their favorite candidate didn't make it."


Some of these folks still seem to think we are voting for American Idol; Not the President of the USA.

315 Iron Fist  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:00:31pm

re: #269 galloping granny

They're not really voting. It's all been decided by back room deals. It's like Josef Stalin said "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything". These votes have already been counted by the only ones who matter.

316 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:01:07pm

re: #315 Iron Fist

But the feel good about it, and that's what counts

BTFGAI, ATWC

317 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:01:09pm

Brit Hume just called Obama's Coronation Stage "The Colliseum"

318 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:01:46pm

re: #317 galloping granny

Brit Hume just called Obama's Coronation Stage "The Colliseum"

Obamaseum

319 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:01:58pm

re: #315 Iron Fist

They're not really voting. It's all been decided by back room deals. It's like Josef Stalin said "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything". These votes have already been counted by the only ones who matter.

Exactly.

320 offendi  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:02:01pm

The Clintons have made poor Barry a dust mite in the political carpet of life.
November, 2008 will not be pretty for the democrats.

321 maddogg  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:02:02pm

Its like some moron in the Democratic party got up one day and said :"Hey! Lets nominate the most unqualified anti American loser we can find! And of course the other morons slapped their head and said "Why didn't I think of that". Brilliant!

322 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:02:11pm

For the love of God!

According to the Telegraph, the messiah will arrive at the Invesco Temple a mockup of the Air Force One fuselage!

323 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:02:30pm

re: #317 galloping granny

Brit Hume just called Obama's Coronation Stage "The Colliseum"

The O-crapolis

324 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:02:41pm
325 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:03:00pm

re: #315 Iron Fist

This is like masturbation, isn't it. Everyone knows what the outcome will be.

/I didn't word it like that ... DID I?!
/this convention is bullshit

326 HoosierHoops  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:03:17pm

re: #304 sattv4u2

re: #294 HoosierHoops

They can defer until a "better time" They'll probably try to squeeze in when Obama is just about to get the required number, so it is THEIR vote that puts him over the top


thanks! now i get it..

327 offendi  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:03:32pm

re: #312 opnion

I undrerstand that emergency policies ar in place tomorrow night for the acceptance speach.
A helicopter is at the ready to transport Chris Matthews to a trauma center if he goes into advanced traumatic tingles.

Hopefully he won't go all "Monica" on Barry.

328 Outrider  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:03:49pm

re: #270 Bobblehead

Back in the day roll calls were made during the prime time hours.

Back in the day, they weren't trying to rush through it so few would notice dissent.

329 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:03:55pm

Clinton is getting votes on the floor. Interesting.

330 harrijs  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:04:00pm

On the XM Radio live feed you can hear some people close to the mic being complete morons and mocking the Clinton supporters when they cast a vote for her. It is absolutely classic!

331 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:04:15pm

re: #52 buzzsawmonkey

ABC will surely not forgive this, and it will probably send an icy little spear through the guts of some of the other MSM organizations.

It certainly should.

This just occurred to me, but hasn't ABC been in the tank for Clinton all along? Payback?

I must admit, I don't watch enough t.v. to know for sure about ABC reporting.

332 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:04:32pm

DId they go to commercial?

WHere are my running tallies, folks.

I'm depending on you all.

333 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:04:38pm

Oooo- some one abstained in Florida!

334 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:05:02pm

re: #333 Sharmuta

Oooo- some one abstained in Florida!

Numbers?

335 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:05:07pm

re: #332 Silhouette

DId they go to commercial?

WHere are my running tallies, folks.

I'm depending on you all.

O = 452 ,,, H = 131

336 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:05:11pm

482.5 for obama
131.5 hill

337 loppyd  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:05:12pm

Andrea Mitchell just said that the NY delegation will bring Hillary to the floor to cast their votes.

338 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:05:31pm

re: #306 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Obama 48 Clinto 5

Oops, that was Alabama!

339 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:05:36pm
340 Canadian Guy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:05:52pm

Fox is doing a crappy job here. No running totals and they're showing Fred Barnes and the gang.

341 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:05:56pm

re: #337 loppyd

Andrea Mitchell just said that the NY delegation will bring Hillary to the floor to cast their votes.

on one of those throney thingys, like the old Egyptian Princesses?

342 maddogg  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:06:09pm

re: #322 Shiplord Kirel

For the love of God!

According to the Telegraph, the messiah will arrive at the Invesco Temple a mockup of the Air Force One fuselage!

The only thing Americans find more nauseating than an arrogant moron is a presumptive arrogant moron.

343 eniac2000  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:06:12pm

maybe i'm late chiming in with this observation, but during her speech Michelle Obama had a hard time maintaining a smile, especially when talking about her love of her country.

I am overseas watching this on CNN International and when they reran her speach after the live feed, they had gratuitously trimmed out all the moments she had trouble smiling... it was both amusing and scary.

344 loppyd  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:06:20pm

I think California passed because there were too many hold outs for Hillary and it would have gone in her favor.

345 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:06:39pm

o=564.5
H=149.5

346 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:06:43pm

I wonder if those who vote for Clinton will be locked out of the next convention?

347 loppyd  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:06:49pm

re: #341 sattv4u2

on one of those throney thingys, like the old Egyptian Princesses?

Why not? Obama is speaking from a freaking Greek temple.

348 Shug  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:06:49pm

re: #340 Canadian Guy

Fox is doing a crappy job here. No running totals and they're showing Fred Barnes and the gang.


Megan Kelly sucks. And Ferraro is useless

349 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:07:01pm

re: #253 NomadOfNorad

Buahahahahahahahaha! God one!


Devil Zip?

350 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:07:27pm

re: #322 Shiplord Kirel

For the love of God!

According to the Telegraph, the messiah will arrive at the Invesco Temple a mockup of the Air Force One fuselage!

Oh dear Jesus! Has the man gone completely and entirely insane? This is literally a CORONATION. What the hell does he think he is? Emperor Obama? Caesar Obama?

351 bellamags  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:07:28pm

re: #322 Shiplord Kirel

For the love of God!

According to the Telegraph, the messiah will arrive at the Invesco Temple a mockup of the Air Force One fuselage!

RIDICULOUS. I think that will backfire.

352 loppyd  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:07:32pm

Guam gives Hillary 3!

353 opnion  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:07:34pm

re: #327 offendi

Hopefully he won't go all "Monica" on Barry.

If he does , he'll make Howard Fineman do it too.

354 cliffster  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:07:57pm

Wow, this on the foxnews.com front page.. What's with press fighting so openly, so much, with other press?

355 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:08:19pm

She just democrats count there votes! What bull!

356 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:08:24pm

?re: #336 Sharmuta

482.5 for obama
131.5 hill

Opie: I never seen one, paw.

Andy: Never seen one what?

Opie: A half-delegate

Andy: Well it's not really a half a delegate, i - it's a ratio.

Opie: Horatio who?

Andy: Not Horatio - a ratio. It's mathematics, 'rithmatic. Look, now Opie, just forget that part of it. Forget the part about the half-a-delegate.

Opie: It's pretty hard to forget a thing like that, paw.

Andy: Well, try!

Opie: Poor Horatio.

357 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:08:39pm

re: #336 Sharmuta

482.5 for obama
131.5 hill


dwarves or hobbits?

358 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:08:51pm

0=568.5
H=152.5

359 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:08:54pm
We Democrats count our votes RIGHT

Oh yeah

360 the lizard  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:09:20pm

re: #322 Shiplord Kirel

For the love of God!

According to the Telegraph, the messiah will arrive at the Invesco Temple a mockup of the Air Force One fuselage!

That fuselage has been there all week in the parking lot of Invesco, as a part of the "American Presidential Experience" exhibit.

[Link: www.denver.org...]

361 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:09:24pm

This chick at the podium is very annoying.

362 Shug  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:09:28pm

re: #322 Shiplord Kirel

For the love of God!

According to the Telegraph, the messiah will arrive at the Invesco Temple a mockup of the Air Force One fuselage!

Obama's Chickens counted before they come home to roost

363 Red Cloud  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:09:34pm

So when they get to New York, is Hillary supposed to stop the roll call like the Obamatons wanted her to do?

364 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:09:39pm

re: #361 Killgore Trout

This chick at the podium is very annoying.

ya think?

365 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:09:42pm

0=594.5
H=153.5

366 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:10:09pm

re: #361 Killgore Trout

This chick at the podium is very annoying.

She reminds me of what Liv Tyler will look like in 20 years.

367 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:10:15pm

re: #361 Killgore Trout

This chick at the podium is very annoying.

It'll be three weeks before she can get that pasted-on smile off her face.

368 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:10:22pm

re: #363 Red Cloud

So when they get to New York, is Hillary supposed to stop the roll call like the Obamatons wanted her to do?

She might as well, since most of her delegates are being good little bots and voting for Obama.

369 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:10:22pm
370 cliffster  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:10:30pm

re: #342 maddogg

The only thing Americans find more nauseating than an arrogant moron is a presumptiveuous arrogant moron.

Sorry, couldn't help it.

371 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:10:38pm

re: #54 Sharmuta

I wonder if they would rage against the machine when they get what they want then realize the machine they thought they wanted is the one they should have been raging against.

I like the way that is worded. You need to say it really fast in the voice of Mojo Jojo.

372 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:10:46pm

re: #357 Eowyn2

dwarves or hobbits?

Michigan are the Dwarves, Florida the Hobbits.

373 opnion  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:11:00pm

re: #343 eniac2000

maybe i'm late chiming in with this observation, but during her speech Michelle Obama had a hard time maintaining a smile, especially when talking about her love of her country.

I am overseas watching this on CNN International and when they reran her speach after the live feed, they had gratuitously trimmed out all the moments she had trouble smiling... it was both amusing and scary.

Public opinion is being managed by those that are just supposed to report the news, unless they label it editorial

374 Halman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:11:11pm

re: #364 sattv4u2

ya think?

I think Jerry Springer would be great...

375 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:11:22pm

re: #350 galloping granny

Oh dear Jesus! Has the man gone completely and entirely insane? This is literally a CORONATION. What the hell does he think he is? Emperor Obama? Caesar Obama?


The "Left Behind" antichrist nuts are going ape-s**t over this.

Nah, I don't think Obambi has the juice for an actual Beast of Revelation, but I may go back to church just in case.

376 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:11:29pm

0=614.5
H=156.5

377 snowcrash  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:11:29pm

The Idaho delegate was a little to intense for me!

378 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:11:45pm

re: #371 Slumbering Behemoth

I like the way that is worded. You need to say it really fast in the voice of Mojo Jojo.

LOL!

379 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:11:51pm

re: #367 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It'll be three weeks before she can get that pasted-on smile off her face.

I have a shed in the back yard that has a smaller opening than this chicks mouth!

380 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:11:53pm

Illinois passes!

381 The Other Les  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:12:01pm

re: #350 galloping granny

Oh dear Jesus! Has the man gone completely and entirely insane? This is literally a CORONATION. What the hell does he think he is? Emperor Obama? Caesar Obama?

Check the shoe size. Caligula meant Little Boots.

382 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:12:18pm
383 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:12:22pm

Does that guy from Idaho take 20 minutes at the McDonald's drive-thru window? SHEESH!

384 harrijs  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:12:41pm

Who is this hoosier?!? He is really into himself.

385 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:12:49pm

0=659.5
H=162.5

386 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:12:54pm

re: #366 Sharmuta

She reminds me of Lilly Tomlin.

387 Red Cloud  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:13:05pm

re: #380 Sharmuta

Illinois passes!

Not uncommon for this to happen, so that when they come around again it's all set up for his home state to deliver the clinching votes. GOP does it too.

388 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:13:13pm

re: #379 sattv4u2

I have a shed in the back yard that has a smaller opening than this chicks mouth!

LOL! You've got one of those?!

389 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:13:14pm

re: #383 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Does that guy from Idaho take 20 minutes at the McDonald's drive-thru window? SHEESH!

That's just putting in his order...

390 lifeofthemind  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:13:16pm

Any mail for me while I was gone?

391 bellamags  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:13:29pm

re: #382 buzzsawmonkey

there you go again...... btw: Voldemort = Islamic extremism, Ministry of Magic = UN

392 Silhouette  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:13:54pm

re: #383 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Does that guy from Idaho take 20 minutes at the McDonald's drive-thru window? SHEESH!

For heavens sake, don't ask someone from Idaho if they want fries with that.

393 The Other Les  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:13:56pm

re: #375 Shiplord Kirel

The "Left Behind" antichrist nuts are going ape-s**t over this.

Nah, I don't think Obambi has the juice for an actual Beast of Revelation, but I may go back to church just in case.

The Big ZERO may not be the Prince of Darkness but he may very well be the Duke of Dimness.

394 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:14:34pm

" ,,, and the home of Barak Obamas Mamas Mama bama"

395 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:14:35pm

re: #375 Shiplord Kirel

The "Left Behind" antichrist nuts are going ape-s**t over this.

Nah, I don't think Obambi has the juice for an actual Beast of Revelation, but I may go back to church just in case.

Who can blame them? I have never seen nor heard of anything so wantonly presumptuous. . . . I know there are a bunch of other words that I should be using to describe this, but I am so flabbergasted that I can't articulate them right now.

396 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:14:41pm
397 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:14:49pm

re: #390 lifeofthemind

Any mail for me while I was gone?

How's your hairy friend?
It was a topic of GREAT discussion.

398 loppyd  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:14:53pm

The olberdink is getting antsy to get this over with.

399 harrijs  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:14:54pm

Kansas. Birthplace of Obama's grandparents and momma. Is that the best that they can do?

400 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:14:56pm

re: #372 CyanSnowHawk

Michigan are the Dwarves, Florida the Hobbits.

Now I understand.

401 maddogg  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:15:00pm

re: #370 cliffster


re: #342 maddogg

The only thing Americans find more nauseating than an arrogant moron is a presumptiveuous arrogant moron.

Sorry, couldn't help it.

HOW DARE YOU? ? ? ?

/presumptuous moron off

402 eniac2000  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:15:40pm

re: #359 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yeah, rubbin it in. Everyone knows the dems don't take cheap shots!

403 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:15:41pm

Has anyone else noticed the states with the smallest # of votes to cast makes the LONGEST speeches?/

Can anyone say Napoleon Complex !?!?!?!

404 cliffster  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:16:06pm

foxnews.com:

Obama is poised to invite a new wave of criticism that the White House isn't big enough for his ego when he accepts the Democratic nomination at Invesco Field Thursday.

Fox keeps trying to keep up with MSNBC in being blatantly biased..

405 Samita  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:16:32pm

how can you be united for change and give 9 of your Iowa votes to Hillary?

406 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:16:46pm

re: #382 buzzsawmonkey

The Greek portico, curved, is vaginal. The Air Force One fuselage is phallic.

If Obama alights from the AF1 fuselage at the Greek portico, it will be symbolic of how he will screw the country.

wow. you're good.

Somebody is going to steal that for their thesis for their "Women's Study" doctorate.

407 Racer X  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:16:58pm

PUMA!

408 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:17:01pm

oooooo ,,,, reindeer games ! (oh , wait ,, he said equestrian!)

HEY ,, and he tried to steal Lincoln ,,

ASSHAT ,, Lincoln was a REPUBLICAN ! !

409 harrijs  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:17:04pm

Dang, KY was pretty close to being even.

410 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:17:09pm

0=777.5
H=201.5

411 snowcrash  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:17:30pm

La. the home of reine de tout! (I think)

412 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:17:52pm

re: #399 harrijs

Kansas. Birthplace of Obama's grandparents and momma. Is that the best that they can do?

they could have said
Kansas, birthplace of Obama's mother and home of his typical white grandparents.

413 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:17:56pm

just HAD to mention "recovery from Katrina"!

414 Shug  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:18:04pm

We need change.

OK, how will Obama change things ?

I don't know

/obama supporters

415 loppyd  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:18:18pm

Does this chick have sh*t in her ears?

416 eniac2000  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:18:21pm

the suspense is killing me!

lol, what a stroke fest.

And my God, how all those Hillary votes must really make her feel great. What an empty prize.

417 Samita  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:18:25pm

I get this - Why are we even bothering with these Clinton votes - feeling from some of these presenters.

418 bellamags  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:18:29pm

re: #396 buzzsawmonkey

There is a vocab lesson for me each time you comment. Had to look it up and click the little speaker for the pronunciation.

419 harrijs  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:18:31pm

re: #413 pre-Boomer Marine brat

just HAD to mention "recovery from Katrina"!

There isn't any other way to fit Louisiana into a sentence.

420 HoosierHoops  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:18:42pm

re: #384 harrijs

Who is this hoosier?!? He is really into himself.

dissing hoosiers? LOL
We'll let you slide this time...

421 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:18:46pm

re: #413 pre-Boomer Marine brat

just HAD to mention "recovery from Katrina"!

I'm just thankful she didn't say "Still Destroyed By Katrina, Thanks to George Bush"

422 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:19:16pm

re: #403 sattv4u2

Has anyone else noticed the states with the smallest # of votes to cast makes the LONGEST speeches?/

Can anyone say Napoleon Complex !?!?!?!

have you noticed that the states with the least land mass and most people think they know what is best for the states that grow the food that feeds them?

423 eniac2000  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:19:35pm

I havent heard anybody mention the troops. Did I miss it?

424 AllanTheRed  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:19:40pm

Do you think Biden gives Obama Gravitas? Amazing that is all we heard when Bush picked Cheney. Lord, knows Obama needs all Gravitas he can get.

425 vagabond trader  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:19:41pm

Ok, so is this Air Force One exhibit visible during the temple mount speech?

426 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:19:53pm

re: #415 loppyd

Does this chick have sh*t in her ears?

In fairness to her, she may be getting signals from others who are doing the actual tallying. I doubt very much that she's doing it herself.

427 Samita  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:20:00pm

Iowa presenter was a Vet 2 tours in Iraq..

428 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:20:02pm

re: #413 pre-Boomer Marine brat

just HAD to mention "recovery from Katrina"!

They may be saying recovery from Katrina and Gustav four years from now...

429 loppyd  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:20:08pm

As Maine goes so goes the nation?

Mmmm. Not so much in 2004, tool.

430 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:20:12pm

re: #422 Eowyn2

have you noticed that the states with the least land mass and most people think they know what is best for the states that grow the food that feeds them?

I only eat seafood,, what state is Atlantic ,, the 57th? 58th ?

431 lifeofthemind  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:20:19pm

re: #397 pre-Boomer Marine brat

How's your hairy friend?
It was a topic of GREAT discussion.

Another successful mission. Wags from both ends.

432 opnion  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:20:20pm

When does Indonesia vote, after Indiana?

433 harrijs  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:20:28pm

re: #420 HoosierHoops

dissing hoosiers? LOL
We'll let you slide this time...

Not dissing, when the state voluntarily refers to itself that way, I am just doing as the Romans do.....LOL

434 MNLifer  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:20:38pm

re: #423 eniac2000

Iowa did...

435 loppyd  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:20:59pm

Wondering what MA will do. Hillary destroyed him here....

436 galloping granny  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:21:09pm

re: #410 Sharmuta

0=777.5
H=201.5

And that is 26% casting their vote for Hillary even though they do not have to and were encouraged not to. Pretty telling.

437 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:21:31pm

re: #322 Shiplord Kirel

For the love of God!

According to the Telegraph, the messiah will arrive at the Invesco Temple a mockup of the Air Force One fuselage!

I didn't see that, all I saw was the full-scale mock-up "arriving at" Invesco before Obama speaks.

Regardless - it's cheap. The whole thing with the Greek temple and the mock-up of AirForce One, and the text-messaging of his VP choice, the swooning and fainting supporters, that awful, neon stage at the convention, and so many other things - he has cheapened our electoral process.

438 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:21:50pm

re: #424 AllanTheRed

Do you think Biden gives Obama Gravitas? Amazing that is all we heard when Bush picked Cheney. Lord, knows Obama needs all Gravitas he can get.

I'll bet before November he'll give him agiada (Italian for stomach ache)

439 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:22:03pm

0=938.5
H=222.5

440 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:22:11pm

re: #432 opnion

When does Indonesia vote, after Indiana?

yes ,, but before Iran

441 Red Cloud  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:22:16pm

re: #427 Samita

Obviously, their proof that A) the troops all love them and B) they support the troops.

442 Outrider  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:22:36pm

re: #424 AllanTheRed

Do you think Biden gives Obama Gravitas? Amazing that is all we heard when Bush picked Cheney. Lord, knows Obama needs all Gravitas he can get.

The way his ego is going, and his head growing? Gravity is what he will need more of.

443 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:22:41pm

re: #436 galloping granny

And that is 26% casting their vote for Hillary even though they do not have to and were encouraged not to. Pretty telling.

26% of your delegates saying "I told you so" should be pretty amusing on Nov. 5th.

444 loppyd  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:22:49pm

I may just hurl.

445 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:22:52pm

re: #411 snowcrash

La. the home of reine de tout! (I think)

Yes, it is!

446 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:22:59pm

the home of ... don't forget Chappaquidick

447 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:23:17pm

re: #446 pre-Boomer Marine brat

the home of ... don't forget Chappaquidick

and the Big Dig

448 eniac2000  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:23:27pm

i wish i could watch hillary's face during all this

449 Red Cloud  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:23:33pm

re: #435 loppyd

Wondering what MA will do. Hillary destroyed him here....

How your state ended up with a black Governor, I'll never be able to figure out.

450 piglet-u93  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:23:41pm

60 senators?

451 loppyd  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:23:44pm

Boxer lying about why they passed now.

452 Lively  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:23:44pm

re: #446 pre-Boomer Marine brat

the home of ... don't forget Chappaquidick

Hillary abode.

453 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:23:47pm

0=1003.5
H=274.5

454 Shug  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:23:53pm

re: #446 pre-Boomer Marine brat

the home of ... don't forget Chappaquidick

and Bill Buckner

455 Lively  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:24:08pm

re: #449 Red Cloud

How your state ended up with a black Governor, I'll never be able to figure out.

Careful

/

456 snowcrash  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:24:27pm

re: #445 reine.de.tout
It's more interesting to imagine the delegates announce the lgf posters from their great states. LOL

457 formercorpsman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:24:29pm

re: #322 Shiplord Kirel

Wow.

I don't know what to say.

The idea they can get up on stage, and lecture about economic injustice, corporate greed, and how people need to decide if they are going to eat or buy their medicine, and this is the length they go to for accepting the nomination?

Wow.

458 The Shadow Do  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:24:32pm

re: #437 reine.de.tout

he has cheapened our electoral process.

Impossible.

459 loppyd  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:24:42pm

re: #449 Red Cloud

How your state ended up with a black Governor, I'll never be able to figure out.

GUILT.

He ran on the same fluffy nothing theme as Obama is now.

His slogan was "YES WE CAN"

Come to MA and you will see that actually, we CAN'T.

460 opnion  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:24:47pm

re: #440 sattv4u2

yes ,, but before Iran

That makes perfect sense.

461 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:24:48pm

re: #444 loppyd

I may just hurl.


You'll have to get in line...

462 JCM  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:25:12pm

re: #453 Sharmuta

0=1003.5
H=274.5

Splitting delegates? Isn't that awfully messy?

463 lifeofthemind  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:25:18pm

Who gets to play the Emperor's horse?

464 Lively  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:25:27pm

She deserves more.

465 bellamags  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:25:29pm

I have the pleasure of having my super lib father in law here for a week. All during this tonight and tomorrow night. I won't be able to throw things at the computer or yell explatives. I can however type quietly and chuckle at you guys.

I might have to go to a bar or something with my laptop and earbuds. I won't be able to take it.

466 Red Cloud  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:25:43pm

re: #455 Lively

No offense. It's just that the most blatantly racist individuals that I've ever come across in my life all happen to be liberals from Boston. It's sad, really.

Doesn't surprise me that Hillary would have romped in MA.

467 Querent  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:25:49pm

re: #393 The Other Les

The Big ZERO may not be the Prince of Darkness but he may very well be the Duke of Dimness.

Phil, the Prince of Insufficient Light, from the Dilbert Universe?

468 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:26:00pm

re: #430 sattv4u2

I only eat seafood,, what state is Atlantic ,, the 57th? 58th ?

North Pacifica is the 55th, South Pacifica is the 56th, I am pretty sure North Atlantica (which has NO human citizens) was admitted before North Pacifica. Sometime around 1958. I think it is the 53rd and then it split in the great war of the starfish in 64 and became North Atlantica and Gulfinmexton.

469 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:26:10pm

Minnesota "the state that always has the highest voter turnout percentage in the country"

Of course you do,,, what ELSE can you do there in November ?

470 Samita  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:26:18pm

65/52 for Mass.... thats a big % for Hill

471 Lively  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:26:23pm

re: #466 Red Cloud

;)

472 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 3:26:26pm

Re: Zach and crew, a few words about sellin' out [NSFW language/music]