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Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:29:45 pm PDT

When a man’s dog turns against him it is time for a wife to pack her trunk and go home to mama.

Mark Twain

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1 Syrah  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:30:52pm

It's good to be Alpha.

2 tommygum  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:31:15pm

My dog loves me.....

3 Syrah  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:31:33pm

re: #1 Syrah

Meaning "top dog."

4 Racer X  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:32:30pm

Dogs are a good judge of character.

5 Karridine  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:32:35pm

Mark Twain for President! :D

6 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:33:47pm

Finally got on for a fresh new thread. And I always thought that Mark was a cat person. :)

7 The Other Les  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:33:54pm

Thunderstorm outside. Flashes of lightning.

8 rawmuse  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:34:08pm

If you want a friend, get a dog. Or two.

9 rawmuse  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:34:48pm

I aspire to be the man my dog thinks that I am.

10 rabidsquirrel  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:34:57pm

re: #5 Karridine

Mark Twain for President! :D

It won't work. We all know dead voters will vote for Obama.

11 solomonpanting  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:35:14pm

re: #5 Karridine

Mark Twain for President! :D

Sorry, he's dead. But, he can still vote in some areas.

12 Karridine  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:35:32pm

re: #10 rabidsquirrel

True, dat...

13 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:36:37pm

re: #7 The Other Les

Thunderstorm outside. Flashes of lightning.

It's been great, huh? I've stayed up late to enjoy it.

14 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:37:05pm

re: #5 Karridine

(Karridine. My reply to you left on the last thread)

The host asked me about my job and financial situation (the producer had gotten the info from me ahead of time and prepped the host) and then he wanted to know if anything Clinton said tonight gave me hope that if Obama is elected, then maybe my future would be brighter and I could reach the American Dream.

I told him I wasn't very happy with some of the fiscal policies of the current administration, but I didn't hear anything from Clinton that I thought would be a viable alternative for the country.

I told him as of now, I didn't know who I was going to vote for, and I let him know that I was registered as unafilliated.

He ended my part of the interview with "well, you sound like an unafilliated cynic" and I replied "You're right."

15 The Other Les  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:37:35pm

re: #13 Noam Sayin'

It's been great, huh? I've stayed up late to enjoy it.

Unfortunately, I'm in the basement.

16 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:37:36pm

I think Twain was more of a cat person....

A home without a cat--and a well-fed, well-petted and properly revered cat--may be a perfect home, perhaps, but how can it prove title?
- Pudd'nhead Wilson
17 Racer X  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:37:40pm

Dogs (Floyd)

18 tommygum  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:38:07pm

Glad that dem crap is over, safe to turn the tv on.

19 leah  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:38:33pm

dogs are haram...and lightning has struck Sky Harbor Airport in Phoenix once again...

Phoenix Airport Allows Special Clothing For Somali Muslim Janitorial Workers

20 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:38:35pm
Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with the cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat.
- Notebook, 1894
21 Karridine  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:38:39pm

Well, UPDATE: Bangkok: The third day running for those Peoples' Alliance for Democracy Disaster, and 3rd day I'm out of work because those schmucks closed down my place of work and about 20,000 OTHERS!

Real way to be popular, smashing windows and vandalizing government offices BECAUSE you are assured of your righteousness and the government's corruption!

/No, these people do NOT claim to be part of the American Democratic Party... why?

22 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:39:10pm

I think a dog would make a good President, just so long as he knows enough to bark at appropriate times, and to growl at the Iranians.

23 tommygum  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:39:40pm

Karridine- stay safe.

24 sngnsgt  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:40:00pm

My dog loves me.

25 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:40:57pm

re: #21 Karridine

Are you locked out becuase it's too dangerous to try to go to work, or are a lot of your fellow employees joining in the "fun?"

26 jcm  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:41:10pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

Cat....

27 Wendya  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:42:04pm

The great pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too.
~Samuel Butler, Notebooks, 1912

28 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:42:36pm

Looks like this thread is going to the dogs...

29 sngnsgt  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:43:22pm

re: #28 Fenway_Nation

Looks like this thread is going to the dogs...

Dog gone it!

30 rawmuse  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:44:15pm

re: #22 Pawn of the Oppressor

I think a dog would make a good President, just so long as he knows enough to bark at appropriate times, and to growl at the Iranians.

My dog would hump the Sarkozy's wife's leg. Embarrassing.

31 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:44:19pm

re: #28 Fenway_Nation

Looks like this thread is going to the dogs...

Just as well. It's raining like hell here, and I'm going to sign off and enjoy it.

Wait a minute...

32 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:44:52pm

Here is sample of what Brian Ross' team at ABC had put together when their producer was arrested today.

Big time money flowing through the Democratic party. An ultra elite attending lavish parties, golf junkets and getting on Lear Jets (while telling us about our carbon footprints and need to conserve energy).

I am sure glad Nancy Pelosi is cleaning up Washington.

33 ASU86PE  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:45:18pm

My dog knows I'm the only one that pays attention to her. I don't know if it's 'like' or deparation?

I imagine if the dog turns against you, it means someone else is feeding your dog when you're not home. :

34 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:46:40pm

re: #30 rawmuse

My dog would hump the Sarkozy's wife's leg. Embarrassing.

Well, so would I!

35 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:47:05pm

re: #33 ASU86PE

My dog knows I'm the only one that pays attention to her. I don't know if it's 'like' or deparation?

I imagine if the dog turns against you, it means someone else is feeding your dog when you're not home. :

That's true for wife's too!

36 Archimedes  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:47:09pm

re: #10 rabidsquirrel

It won't work. We all know dead voters will vote for Obama.


Rumors of his death are greatly exaggerated.

37 rawmuse  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:47:53pm

re: #34 Walter L. Newton

Well, so would I!

OK, me too...

38 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:47:56pm

re: #28 Fenway_Nation

Not if some of us can help it. :)

/filling in for goddess on her off hours.

39 Syrah  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:48:08pm

re: #33 ASU86PE

My dog knows I'm the only one that pays attention to her. I don't know if it's 'like' or deparation?

I imagine if the dog turns against you, it means someone else is feeding your dog when you're not home. :

Dogs are pack animals. In Dog-think, someone has to be Alpha. If your dog thinks that you aren't up to it, it may challenge you for the title.

40 Karridine  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:49:10pm

re: #25 Walter L. Newton

Are you locked out becuase it's too dangerous to try to go to work, or are a lot of your fellow employees joining in the "fun?"

Door Number One, WL

They burst into the government's main TV station, and shut down every electrical switch they could pull, and sat there in the dark over an hour thinking they'd done a bad baddie, only to find out that the whole place was being run from vans out in the thick of it!

Techno-morons! Utter thug dweebs! NO CLASS!

41 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:50:01pm

If zombie comes across this, try to get out to the airport and photograph those private jets.

Each one has an "N" number painted on or near the tail.

The N number is a matter of public record - the FAA has the registry online.

It would be a simple task for the lizard army to look up and post every one of those plane owners just to see who is spending whose money on the coronation of Obama (who will no doubt remind us peons of our need to conserve fuel and shrink our carbon footprints).

42 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:50:04pm

I've been listening to Obama supporters caklling in to Mark Levin's radio program. Each and every one of them could only answer "change" when asked what Obama offered.
"But he'll bring change"
"what kind of change?"
"change, you know, change"
"Change to what"
"He's for change"
"What will he change"
"He'll bring change, don't you get it? CHANGE!"

43 Archimedes  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:50:41pm

re: #37 rawmuse

OK, me too...

Raising my hand here.

44 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:51:15pm

re: #40 Karridine

Door Number One, WL

They burst into the government's main TV station, and shut down every electrical switch they could pull, and sat there in the dark over an hour thinking they'd done a bad baddie, only to find out that the whole place was being run from vans out in the thick of it!

BWA-HA-HA! Rove, you magnificent bastard!

45 Karridine  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:51:36pm

re: #42 Capitalist Tool

I've been listening to Obama supporters caklling in to Mark Levin's radio program. Each and every one of them could only answer "change" when asked what Obama offered.
"But he'll bring change"
"what kind of change?"
"change, you know, change"
"Change to what"
"He's for change"
"What will he change"
"He'll bring change, don't you get it? CHANGE!"


BIG change, you know, from functional brains to fully lobotomized! THAT kinda CHANGE, you Republican knuckle-dragging cretin! CHANGE!

46 The Other Les  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:51:39pm

re: #40 Karridine

Door Number One, WL

They burst into the government's main TV station, and shut down every electrical switch they could pull, and sat there in the dark over an hour thinking they'd done a bad baddie, only to find out that the whole place was being run from vans out in the thick of it!

Techno-morons! Utter thug dweebs! NO CLASS!

Self appointed superior beings.

Means never having to learn anything useful.

47 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:52:00pm

re: #37 rawmuse

That would be a sight: Rawmuse, his dog, and Walter all rasslin' over a chance to hump Sarko's wife's leg.

Time for bed.

Slrrp well, everyone.

48 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:52:24pm

re: #43 Archimedes

Raising my hand here.

Do we have a quorum yet?

49 ASU86PE  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:52:25pm

re: #35 Walter L. Newton


Not Mine! As I said the dog still likes me!
Speaking of Dogs and Democrats [Link: www.travelingdogs.com...] Poor Buddy!

50 Colonel Panik  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:52:48pm

re: #41 karmic_inquisitor

If zombie comes across this, try to get out to the airport and photograph those private jets.

Each one has an "N" number painted on or near the tail.

The N number is a matter of public record - the FAA has the registry online.

It would be a simple task for the lizard army to look up and post every one of those plane owners just to see who is spending whose money on the coronation of Obama (who will no doubt remind us peons of our need to conserve fuel and shrink our carbon footprints).


Good point. The private jets are likely to be at Centennial Airport, near the Denver Tech Center, not DIA.

51 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:53:02pm

re: #47 Noam Sayin'

That would be a sight: Rawmuse, his dog, and Walter all rasslin' over a chance to hump Sarko's wife's leg.

Time for bed.

Slrrp well, everyone.

You're going to have nightmares talking that image to bed.

52 RTLM  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:53:09pm

Somewhere in Denver, a truck-towed mock-up of Air Force One is being very seriously reconsidered.

Link

53 faraway  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:53:17pm

re: #42 Capitalist Tool


"He'll bring change, don't you get it? CHANGE!"

Change white to black. And, of course, water to wine.

54 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:53:30pm

Whatever happened to:
"Spare change"?

55 Syrah  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:54:03pm

re: #54 Capitalist Tool

Whatever happened to:
"Spare change"?

It's been taxed away.

56 TnTx13  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:54:31pm

re: #54 Capitalist Tool

Whatever happened to:
"Spare change"?

It's right here!

57 Colonel Panik  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:55:07pm

Arizona McCain and the Fountain of Youth

Don't make fun of a guy who's handy with a bullwhip...no matter how old he is.

58 Karridine  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:55:15pm

re: #46 The Other Les

Self appointed superior beings.

Means never having to learn anything useful.

Got THAT straight, Les!

This is, however, an EXCELLENT practical example for teaching my 15 and 13-yr-old sons... We compare and contrast the Obama Zoo in Denver and the PAD Circus in BKK... so many things 'Daddy warned us about years ago' are unfolding, right before their eyes!

59 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:56:21pm

re: #56 TnTx13

It's right here!

Hilarious
Thanks.

60 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:56:22pm

re: #15 The Other Les

Unfortunately, I'm in the basement.

The police/fire frequencies are humming.

/lot's of lightening strikes/house fires

61 TnTx13  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:56:23pm

re: #57 Colonel Panik

Arizona McCain and the Fountain of Youth

Don't make fun of a guy who's handy with a bullwhip...no matter how old he is.

Hehe - can he use props at the debates?

62 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:56:43pm

I'm going home, take care all, see ya on the morrow

63 Irene NYC  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:57:37pm

Can anybody explain this ban at the DNC:

On the Money Trail at the DNC
New ethics rules ban food that is served with a fork and knife, but fancy finger food, shown here, is allowed to be passed, so long as no one is sitting down.
(ABC)


And on the next page they reiterate:

Chef Jennifer Jasinski of Denver's Rioja restaurant shows an appetizer that is served on a spoon that was "specially made for the convention" since they can't have forks.
(ABC)


WTF?

64 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:58:07pm

Sex and the city and the dems

[Link: www.denverpost.com...]

65 Syrah  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:59:00pm

re: #63 Irene NYC

Can anybody explain this ban at the DNC:

WTF?

Maybe some bright bulb thought that knives and forks were too masculine.

66 Karridine  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 9:59:50pm

re: #63 Irene NYC

You know, don't you?

"Its all BAD because of those FORKING Republicans!"
67 ASU86PE  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:01:22pm

re: #39 Syrah

True enough, but if you're outside the pack that means someone's taken your spot in the pack. Bad news!

68 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:01:37pm

Travelling..... and SOOOOOO happy I missed the spectacle so far.

Have they offered a 'chicken in every pot' yet?

69 Irene NYC  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:02:12pm

re: #66 Karridine

You know, don't you?
"Its all BAD because of those FORKING Republicans!"


But Karridine, the report says it's ethics rules that prohibit the forks and knives and we all know that Republics aren't ethical.

/sarc

70 Karridine  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:02:20pm

re: #68 experiencedtraveller

Travelling..... and SOOOOOO happy I missed the spectacle so far.

Have they offered a 'chicken in every pot' yet?

No, you old fogey, they offer "Pot for ALL you chickens!"

71 Purple Prose  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:02:46pm

Maybe it is flattering ourselves to think that we are living in a pivotal time. As the Chinese saying goes "May you live in interesting times." I think we live in a pivotal/interesting time.

We have a fully energized, global pro-sharia/jihadi movement, going under the name of a thousand and one abbreviations and acronyms. It is funded by a oil money. We have evidence that Europe is undergoing a demographic shift that may be difficult to change at this point to a Muslim-dominant state. We have Russia acting like an aggressive, expansionist power again. An old story, be it the USSR or Czarist Russia. And now we have China on the scene, trying to become a world power without demonstrating any vision. We have envious India not far behind. What do they want? To compete economically and fairly or something more?

In the US, there is an election coming up between a completely unqualified and inexperienced candidate of uncertain affinity and a thousand-times safer and more conservative but still not fully defined maverick.

We are living in a pivotal and interesting time. I just hope the West can maintain its backbone for a while longer. In 20 years, perhaps, other ideologies will again prove to be inadequate, but if in the space of that time demographics and politics make it impossible for the West to assert itself, we may be in for a decline. A big decline.

72 wolfie  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:03:33pm

Forks.
Hmm.......
A piercing implement invented by white European males imposing cultural, carnivorous hegemony over the starving masses!

73 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:03:34pm

re: #65 Syrah

Maybe some bright bulb thought that knives and forks were too masculine.

Then what's Hillary doing there?

74 BignJames  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:05:02pm

re: #63 Irene NYC

No pens or pencils either, only crayons.

75 Wendya  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:05:05pm

re: #63 Irene NYC

Can anybody explain this ban at the DNC:

WTF?

Perhaps in the minds of politicians, you're not really eating food unless you're sitting down with a knife and fork.

76 Syrah  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:05:30pm

re: #73 Fenway_Nation

Then what's Hillary doing there?

Pushing the limits of what s allowed.

77 Irene NYC  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:05:40pm

re: #74 BignJames

No pens or pencils either, only crayons.


Now that I understand.
;)

78 pat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:05:49pm

I think Biden is from another planet. He is like the character in that Jim Carey movie that is on TV and doesn't know it. He is a pretend Senator. A caricature. I mean my entire office today was asking who would elect such an idiot, such a dullard, to any office whatsoever? And some of these are lefties. With brains. In fact many were looking up Delaware to see if there was a problem. Like we need a planetary alien in the Senate to protect us from Planet X. Is he robot we communicate through to another dimension?

79 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:06:15pm

re: #70 Karridine

I thought they were just offering pot? You know keeping in touch with their base?

80 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:06:23pm

Lightning just struck across the street. Can I stay up with you guys for a while?

81 RTLM  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:07:48pm

re: #80 Noam Sayin'

Lightning just struck across the street. Can I stay up with you guys for a while?

Was there super loud thunder a split second after the strike?

82 Syrah  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:08:11pm

re: #80 Noam Sayin'

Lightning just struck across the street. Can I stay up with you guys for a while?

As long as you like.

If you are on a laptop, make sure it is unplugged. Run on battery till the storm passes.

83 pat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:08:19pm

re: #63 Irene NYC

Poke? They banned poke (fish cut in cubes with seasonings). The Bastids!

84 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:08:25pm

re: #70 Karridine

No, you old fogey, they offer "Pot for ALL you chickens!"

HaHAAAA

85 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:08:27pm

re: #22 Pawn of the Oppressor

I think a dog would make a good President, just so long as he knows enough to bark at appropriate times, and to growl at the Iranians.

He'd growl at the Iranians just because dogs sense evil.

86 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:08:27pm

re: #80 Noam Sayin'

Lightning just struck across the street. Can I stay up with you guys for a while?

Where the hell do you live? I love thunder and lightning storms, from a distance.

87 Macker  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:08:43pm

ATTENTION FRAKHEADS! Introducing...Battlestar Rhapsody!

88 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:09:12pm

re: #70 Karridine

No, you old fogey, they offer "Pot for ALL you chickens!"

Damn. Thats hip. Free pot might just swing this election!

89 rp1138  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:10:01pm

re: #63 Irene NYC

Can anybody explain this ban at the DNC:

WTF?

Of course. Can you imagine what kind of damage these fools could do with a knife and a fork? I'm sure the rules also disallow scissors, just in case someone tries to run with them.

90 rawmuse  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:10:26pm

I am in guy heaven. I got LGF on one monitor, "Jackass" on another, and Thag just brought in some dead mammal. Pinch me.

91 TnTx13  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:10:44pm

re: #80 Noam Sayin'

Lightning just struck across the street. Can I stay up with you guys for a while?

Would you like some of my dog's tranquilizers?

92 Irene NYC  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:11:16pm

re: #83 pat

Poke? They banned poke (fish cut in cubes with seasonings). The Bastids!

pat,
They banned forks and knives. For eating. Really.

93 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:11:59pm

re: #80 Noam Sayin'

Lightning just struck across the street. Can I stay up with you guys for a while?

Flash flooding near the MOA.

/ironically, the weather radio never went off so none of this is severe

94 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:12:20pm

re: #90 rawmuse

I am in guy heaven. I got LGF on one monitor, "Jackass" on another, and Thag just brought in some dead mammal. Pinch me.

Refresh LGF, turn up the 'Jackass' and throw the dead critter on the grill...

/.02

95 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:12:32pm

re: #81 RTLM

Was there super loud thunder a split second after the strike?

pretty much at the same time. Did a cursory glance across the street, but nothing appears to be damaged. Hope it wasn't my house.

I'm in Minneapolis, Walter. You're in Golden, Colo.

96 Karridine  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:12:37pm

re: #79 BlueCanuck

"A chicken in every pot, and pot for every dumb cluck!"

I'm sure Biden said this earlier...

97 SpartanWoman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:12:42pm

re: #4 Racer X

Dogs are a good judge of character.

And that's why the Obamas don't have one...that and the haraam stuff

98 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:13:11pm

re: #80 Noam Sayin'

Lightning just struck across the street. Can I stay up with you guys for a while?

Hope you don't need to call the fire department.

/they're scattered all over the place

99 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:13:35pm

re: #90 rawmuse

I am in guy heaven.

I thought guy heaven was listening to the Red Sox horrifically massacre the Yankees on the radio while polishing my extensive gun collection with my perky, buxom liquor company-heiress fiancee...

100 Colonel Panik  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:13:59pm

re: #63 Irene NYC

Finger food. They want everybody eating like Muslims. Goes along with the Port-A-Mosque and the Rumi.

101 NY Nana  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:14:24pm

re: #97 SpartanWoman

/I wonder if their daughters get gifts at Ramadamn, since they do not get Christmas or birthday gifts.

102 Karridine  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:14:54pm

re: #100 Colonel Panik

Finger food. They want everybody eating like Muslims. Goes along with the Port-A-Mosque and the Rumi.

Sounds real! Few can eat with chopsticks, Panik! :D

103 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:15:03pm

re: #93 Killian Bundy

Flash flooding near the MOA.

/ironically, the weather radio never went off so none of this is severe

Tried to see via the traffic cams, but they're all wet.

Heheh.

104 RightMinded  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:15:05pm

re: #63 Irene NYC

Apparently the new Congressional ethics rules ban attendance of members to lobbyist groups' parties/dinners etc as a way of showing they are not unduly influenced by those groups. The parties continue, but serve finger foods as a way of skirting around the rules. Here's an article I found:

Influence Game in Denver

105 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:15:07pm

re: #95 Noam Sayin'

pretty much at the same time. Did a cursory glance across the street, but nothing appears to be damaged. Hope it wasn't my house.

I'm in Minneapolis, Walter. You're in Golden, Colo.

I am? LOL Thanks.

106 rawmuse  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:15:11pm

re: #99 Fenway_Nation

Heaven has many houses.

107 esch  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:15:46pm

re: #80 Noam Sayin'

Lightning just struck across the street. Can I stay up with you guys for a while?

Woah,

Lightning struck the house across the street, apparently started it on fire. Fire crews out front.

108 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:16:43pm

re: #103 Noam Sayin'

Tried to see via the traffic cams, but they're all wet.

Heheh.

/there's lots of house fire calls

109 Clemente  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:16:50pm

re: #68 experiencedtraveller

Travelling..... and SOOOOOO happy I missed the spectacle so far.

Have they offered a 'chicken in every pot' yet?

That's Bubba's favorite pick-up line!

110 Irene NYC  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:16:55pm

re: #104 RightMinded

Ah, yes, I'd forgotten all about that. Seems to be working just fine.
/sarc

111 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:17:17pm

re: #87 Macker

I see your rhapsody and give you "We Were Centurions".

112 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:17:35pm

re: #107 esch

Woah,

Lightning struck the house across the street, apparently started it on fire. Fire crews out front.

Don't worry. Obama will handle that...

113 RightMinded  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:17:44pm

re: #110 Irene NYC


Yep, it's the same old, same old.....

114 Clemente  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:18:01pm

re: #107 esch

Woah,

Lightning struck the house across the street, apparently started it on fire. Fire crews out front.

!

Time to buy a lotto ticket!

115 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:18:32pm

re: #107 esch

Woah,

Lightning struck the house across the street, apparently started it on fire. Fire crews out front.

If you're in the Twin Cities, MN, there's a lot of that going around tonight

116 esch  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:18:32pm

re: #95 Noam Sayin'

pretty much at the same time. Did a cursory glance across the street, but nothing appears to be damaged. Hope it wasn't my house.

I'm in Minneapolis, Walter. You're in Golden, Colo.

Holy crap.

Howdy neighbor 8)

117 SpartanWoman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:18:39pm

This Obama rising from the ground into the greek temple is sort of more like Hades than Adonis or Apollo

118 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:18:41pm

re: #98 Killian Bundy

Hope you don't need to call the fire department.

/they're scattered all over the place

I don't smell any smoke. And there's been cars running up and down the street all night. I'm sure if my house was on fire right now someone would pop in and let me know.

119 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:19:25pm

Yesterday was the anniversary of the Battle of Brooklyn. The first of many battles in that lovely, lovely neighborhood. Heh.

120 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:19:49pm

re: #107 esch

Woah,

Lightning struck the house across the street, apparently started it on fire. Fire crews out front.

It's Bush's fault.

/

121 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:20:12pm

re: #116 esch

Mpls?

122 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:20:24pm

re: #118 Noam Sayin'

I don't smell any smoke. And there's been cars running up and down the street all night. I'm sure if my house was on fire right now someone would pop in and let me know.

Or at least mail you a letter.

123 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:20:42pm

Personally, I think the Greek temple is very fitting with the Hubris portion of Obama's campaign....

/that comes after election day

124 Inquisitive  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:21:10pm

re: #69 Irene NYC

But Karridine, the report says it's ethics rules that prohibit the forks and knives and we all know that Republics aren't ethical.

/sarc


I think it applies to.......
Ethics rules... "gift rule"....lobbyist or some other group can offer this kind of food(appetizers) and they can give this food away to all the big well to do people and elected officials or others, and it is not considered giving them a dinner...you know some of those real expensive meals where they wine and dine the elected officials to get what they want them to vote on or lean there way on some issue. Stupid yes, but you know those big old loop holes.

125 Colonel Panik  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:21:16pm

re: #102 Karridine

Sounds real! Few can eat with chopsticks, Panik! :D

I wonder if Barack can eat with chopsticks. I learned how to do it when I was living in Hawaii.

I thought I read somewhere that in Japan if a child hasn't mastered chopsticks by a certain age (3...5...I forget) that child is considered to be developmentally impaired, to put it politely.

126 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:21:37pm

A late night talk show host in Denver just called the Obama stage at Invesco "The Temple of Doom."

127 esch  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:21:54pm

re: #121 Noam Sayin'

Mpls?

Yep. West side

128 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:22:19pm

re: #123 Fenway_Nation

Personally, I think the Greek temple is very fitting with the Hubris portion of Obama's campaign....

/that comes after election day

Hmmm, what's that quote, "Who the gods destroy, first they make mad?"

/okay that may be more a paraphrase, but isn't Obama showing some signs of madness?

129 Irene NYC  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:23:23pm

And along with Obama's tax, redistribute and spend programs, there are more local initiatives being proposed by moonbats like this:

California Ballot Initiative to Impose 45% Income Tax, 55% Wealth Tax & 36%-54% Exit Tax

A California activist is trying to gather the 694,354 signatures needed to place a tax initiative on the ballot that would:

* Impose a new 35% income surtax (in addition to federal taxes and the existing 10.3% top state rate) -- 17.5% (on all of the taxpayer's income) when income exceeds $150,000 (single)/$250,000 (joint), and an additional 17.5% (again, on all of the taxpayer's income) when income exceeds $350,000 (single)/$500,000 (joint).
* Impose a one-time 55% wealth tax on assets exceeding $20 million held by a California resident or held in California by nonresident.
* Impose an exit tax of between 36.5% to 54.3% on both income and unrealized appreciation in asset values over $5 million when a resident dies or leaves California.


The insanity is starting to get the upper hand.

130 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:23:47pm

re: #127 esch

Really.

And Killian thought my neighborhood was Moonbat Central.

131 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:23:54pm

re: #128 BlueCanuck

/okay that may be more a paraphrase, but isn't Obama showing some signs of madness?

Wouldn't you be mad if you recently lost all your best friends?

132 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:24:40pm

Alright, storm's over. Nothing more to see.

G'night, slrrp well.

133 SpartanWoman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:24:46pm

re: #131 experiencedtraveller

Wouldn't you be mad if you recently lost all your best friends?

He didn't lose nothin' he disowned them all (under the bus)

134 Irene NYC  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:24:53pm

Sorry, the link for the California Proposition is here

135 esch  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:25:27pm

re: #130 Noam Sayin'

Well, Golden Valley actually.

And I can't say I argue with him. I'm the only Conservative in my family, pretty much.

136 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:25:58pm

re: #104 RightMinded

Apparently this really screwed the Washington Nationals over. When they were building that new ballpark in DC, the ownership was banking on the premium seats and luxury boxes being purchased by lobbyists for local junkets. Now there's a $50 limit on 'gifts' to congresscritters, and the cheapest of these seats in DC's ballpark is in the $200-$300 range....so lots of empty 'premium' seats...

137 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:26:05pm

Well, things to be calming down a bit but I can't remember ever hearing that many house fire calls in such a short period of time.

/on the bright side, the heavy rain keeps the shots fired calls down

138 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:27:06pm

re: #128 BlueCanuck

A caller on Rush today said that the theme for the DNC Convention should be "What If God Were One of Us?" I thought that was brilliant.

139 The Other Les  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:27:58pm

re: #126 Walter L. Newton

A late night talk show host in Denver just called the Obama stage at Invesco "The Temple of Doom."

Shouldn't that be the Temple of Dumb?

(North East Minneapolis, still hearing some rain)

140 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:28:04pm

re: #131 experiencedtraveller

Wouldn't you be mad if you recently lost all your best friends?


Check under the bus....

141 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:29:00pm

The lightening is setting off alarms left and right.

/haven't had a heart attack or suicide call in almost an hour now

142 Colonel Panik  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:29:02pm

re: #123 Fenway_Nation

Personally, I think the Greek temple is very fitting with the Hubris portion of Obama's campaign....

/that comes after election day

TONIGHT WE DINE...ON ARUGULA!

143 BignJames  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:29:18pm

re: #126 Walter L. Newton

A late night talk show host in Denver just called the Obama stage at Invesco "The Temple of Doom."


I wanna see a chariot race.

144 wolfie  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:29:35pm

re: #104 RightMinded

Very interesting!

145 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:29:57pm

re: #142 Colonel Panik

"Arugula. It's a veg-e-table." - Vincent Antonelli, My Blue Heaven.

146 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:30:16pm

re: #143 BignJames

I wanna see a chariot race.

/me too, and togas, lots of togas

147 Syrah  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:30:25pm

re: #138 Wyatt Earp

A caller on Rush today said that the theme for the DNC Convention should be "What If God Were One of Us?" I thought that was brilliant.

It is such a strange song

148 SpartanWoman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:31:02pm

re: #142 Colonel Panik

TONIGHT WE DINE...ON ARUGULA!

Obama must rue the day he ever heard the word "arugula"

149 Macker  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:33:41pm

re: #111 BlueCanuck

I see your rhapsody and give you "We Were Centurions".

I see your toon and raise you the Director's Cut!

150 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:34:33pm

re: #149 Macker

Fold. :)

151 esch  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:35:16pm

re: #139 The Other Les

(North East Minneapolis, still hearing some rain)

Ah I head over there often for Holy Land and Gasthof's.

Ziggy Zaggi Ziggy Zaggi Hoi Hoi Hoi!

152 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:36:11pm

Alright, the rain stopped.

/the domestic assault calls are resuming, all's well in the Twin Cities

153 Karridine  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:37:48pm

re: #125 Colonel Panik

Yeah, 'developmentally impaired'... that fits for Obama... he was never part of the mainstream experience in America, let alone mainstream BLACK America... with him, black is something GRANDPA might have been... over there... in Kenya...

/I learned to eat with chopsticks 40 years ago, atop my mountain on the Korean DMZ... fun and top-secret games, Colonel! :D

154 RightMinded  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:39:24pm

re: #136 Fenway_Nation

Apparently this really screwed the Washington Nationals over. When they were building that new ballpark in DC, the ownership was banking on the premium seats and luxury boxes being purchased by lobbyists for local junkets. Now there's a $50 limit on 'gifts' to congresscritters, and the cheapest of these seats in DC's ballpark is in the $200-$300 range....so lots of empty 'premium' seats...

As much as I'd like to think that this would help to quell influence peddling, I wouldn't hold my breath. Members of congress seem to be experts at how to find the loopholes in the very rules they pass....

155 Colonel Panik  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:40:22pm

re: #153 Karridine

Nothing like a little kimchee and short ribs to stave off the hungries while keeping an eye on Juche Boy.

156 RightMinded  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:42:06pm

Well, that's it for me. Goodnight to all you lizards!

157 neocon hippie  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:43:42pm

Can anyone tell me the best way to clean a laptop screen? I just used the cloth supplied by the manufacturer, moistened with a little H2O, and it's all streaky and awful

158 The Other Les  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:43:57pm
159 Moody Leo  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:44:01pm

I have tried not to watch too much of the DNCC as I might shoot the the TV ala Elvis. Unfortunately my entertainment this next week will be watch to see which way Gustav will go so that I can get a few more thing together (thank goodness I live in the NW part of Louisiana) just get the rain, tornadoes, wind. Just glad it appears the PTB will be using the buses in NO for something besides getting the 9th ward to the polls to vote this time, Whoo Hoooo!

160 Cartman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:44:20pm

re: #129 Irene NYC

And along with Obama's tax, redistribute and spend programs, there are more local initiatives being proposed by moonbats like this:

The insanity is starting to get the upper hand.

These punitive and confiscatory tax proposals that delight the liberals so much will most assuredly topple capitalism as we know it, in right short order. The commies that propse these whacked-out Robin Hood taxation schemes have no clue as to how adversely it will impact their own already miserable lives, let alone the lives of all other good Americans. They are hellbent on the destruction of this economy.

161 kuffar  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:46:29pm

re: #158 The Other Les

LOLZ

162 Cartman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:46:48pm

re: #157 neocon hippie

Can anyone tell me the best way to clean a laptop screen? I just used the cloth supplied by the manufacturer, moistened with a little H2O, and it's all streaky and awful

Use some of that spray eyeglasses lens cleaner on a microfiber cloth.

163 rawmuse  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:50:00pm

re: #157 neocon hippie

Can anyone tell me the best way to clean a laptop screen? I just used the cloth supplied by the manufacturer, moistened with a little H2O, and it's all streaky and awful

Power down first. Then use a very small amount of windex or a very dilute ammonia solution on a clean cloth. Do not use more than a damp cloth. Do not power up until completely dry.

164 Cartman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:50:00pm

re: #147 Syrah

It is such a strange song

She'd be kinda hot, minus that fishing tackle stuck in her nostril.

165 DesertSage  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:51:04pm
166 AmeriDan  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:51:09pm

re: #157 neocon hippie

Can anyone tell me the best way to clean a laptop screen? I just used the cloth supplied by the manufacturer, moistened with a little H2O, and it's all streaky and awful

1. Fill mouth with Windex.

2. Re-watch Bill Clinton say that John McCain loves America as much as Democrats do.

3. Spew

4. Rinse and repeat.

167 Karridine  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:52:19pm

re: #155 Colonel Panik

JuChe... JUCHE! They should BE "Self-Sufficient"...

Instead, NorKs are one of the most crippled, starved and abused nations in the world, no thanks to Dear Leader "I'm So Ronery" Kim!

168 Rev. Churchmouse  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:52:53pm

If you use anything but h20, don't decide to clean the keyboard at the same time- or you might find it cleans the dirt and the decals off the keys

Voice of Experience!

169 Cartman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:53:02pm

re: #165 DesertSage

McCain/Palin '08!

The gal's got legs!

I dunno - looks like Sarah's workin' on a little "cankle" action, there.

170 twincitiesgirl  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:53:29pm

*sigh* it looks like obama has friends in Europe.

Norway willing to talk with Osama bin Laden

"I don't think Osama bin Laden or the forces around al-Qaida want dialogue," Johansen said. "They prefer rather to take the lives of infidels."

ya think?

/humming a few bars of kumbaya as I slip off to bed

171 esch  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:53:43pm

re: #166 AmeriDan

2. Re-watch Bill Clinton say that John McCain loves America as much as Democrats do.

I had that kind of reaction when I heard his little bit about 'and if he's not able to CONVERT them, then he'll confront them'.

Definitely a cult.

172 DesertSage  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:54:37pm

re: #169 Cartman

I dunno - looks like Sarah's workin' on a little "cankle" action, there.

Blasphemy!

That's our next VP you're talking about there!

173 TnTx13  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:55:22pm

re: #166 AmeriDan

Ding!

174 NY Nana  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:56:02pm

re: #168 Rev. Churchmouse

Hello, stranger! It is great to see you!

175 Cartman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:56:30pm

re: #172 DesertSage

Well, if she digs motorcycles and guns, I guess she's OK in my book. ;)

176 NY Nana  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:58:38pm

Can anyone tell me about this computer? NY Grampa's is fried, and I now have to share mine..and I am an only child! ;)

ZT Reliant 825Va AMD Phenomx4 Quad Core 9100e 4GB DDR2 500GB HDD

It has Windows XP installed!

177 Rev. Churchmouse  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:58:46pm

Hello NYN!

haven't been around so much- but when the Demo Convention started up I needed some intelligent commentary to read

178 DesertSage  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:58:46pm

re: #175 Cartman

Well, if she digs motorcycles and guns, I guess she's OK in my book. ;)

She likes to fish too!
:')

179 AmeriDan  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:58:53pm

re: #171 esch

A spew filled night, but only a warm up for tomorrow. I believe the real reason they moved to Invesco was to make room for the super sized amount of BS that is sure to flow.


Definitely a cult.

A cult indeed... of lier's and the useful idiots that believe the lies.

180 esch  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:58:55pm

re: #172 DesertSage

That's our next VP you're talking about there!

Well I must admit the other guys would definitely Palin comparison.

181 Cartman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:59:20pm

As a "bitter clinger", I need someone in gubmint to stand up for my interests.

182 kuffar  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:59:36pm

So, any ideas what to call Obama's ascension sermon?

I was thinking of the Sermon at Midfield.

183 Rev. Churchmouse  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 10:59:49pm

...and the latest Zombie pictorials.

184 DesertSage  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:01:10pm

re: #180 esch

Well I must admit the other guys would definitely Palin comparison.

That was pretty good :')

We have to make that some kind of slogan.

185 Cartman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:01:26pm

re: #178 DesertSage

She likes to fish too!
:')

Well, then...that settles it!

186 AmeriDan  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:01:45pm

re: #173 TnTx13

Ding!

Thanks. Is there any Memphis in the TN part of your username? I was lurking earlier and saw that you knew about the Ford family.

187 least  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:01:51pm

re: #131 experiencedtraveller

Wouldn't you be mad if you recently lost all your best friends?


No, no, no . . . he hasn't lost any of them.
They're right where he left 'em.
Under the bus.

188 rawmuse  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:02:09pm

The DNC tonight reminded me that there are about 30 percent of the populace that are as dumb as a fence post, and by golly, they deserve representation as well.

189 Rev. Churchmouse  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:02:33pm

So, any ideas what to call Obama's ascension sermon?

I'll take a wild guess ahead of time...

In a word?
bullshit.

190 wolfie  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:03:25pm

re: #178 DesertSage

She likes to fish too!
:')

I heard that she eats mooseburgers! :)
I like her!

191 Cartman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:03:42pm

re: #182 kuffar

So, any ideas what to call Obama's ascension sermon?

I was thinking of the Sermon at Midfield.

How 'bout "Miracle At The Parthenon"?

192 NY Nana  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:04:02pm

re: #177 Rev. Churchmouse

haven't been around so much- but when the Demo Convention started up I needed some intelligent commentary to read

Too true...BTW, I have yet to watch a nanosecond. I am voting proudly for John McCain. I feel that the tide has turned, and he will win decisively.

193 esch  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:04:08pm

re: #184 DesertSage

TY TY

194 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:04:26pm

re: #181 Cartman

As a "bitter clinger", I need someone in gubmint to stand up for my interests.

/unlike lifetime NRA member Sarah's rival, Ol' Plugs

195 AmeriDan  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:04:42pm

re: #187 least

No, no, no . . . he hasn't lost any of them.
They're right where he left 'em.
Under the bus.

Bingo.

They'll be back as soon as he's (in their dreams) elected.

196 Cartman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:05:13pm

re: #188 rawmuse

30% may be a little conservative.

197 NY Nana  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:05:40pm

re: #182 kuffar

I was thinking of the Sermon at Midfield.

/More like left field.

198 esch  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:06:11pm

re: #196 Cartman

30% may be a little conservative.

Well 50% of the country IS below average.

props to and RIP George.

199 Rev. Churchmouse  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:07:23pm

I feel that the tide has turned, and he will win decisively.

I wish I could be that optimistic.
Last time around I was certain that Kerry would win. The only thing that really makes me hopeful is that I was wrong before.

200 Cartman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:07:44pm

re: #194 Killian Bundy

That guy in the video question didn't do the 2A movement any favors, but there is no doubt that Plugs is rabidly anti.

201 DesertSage  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:09:42pm

re: #190 wolfie

I heard that she eats mooseburgers! :)
I like her!

And she knows how to install siding!

202 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:11:21pm

re: #182 kuffar

So, any ideas what to call Obama's ascension sermon?

I was thinking of the Sermon at Midfield.

How about "The Life of Obama"?

203 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:11:58pm

Sarah on Glenn Beck

/you go girl!

204 least  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:12:30pm

re: #133 SpartanWoman

Sorry to semi-duplicate your comment.
I read #131 and had to respond.

205 Syrah  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:12:39pm

re: #182 kuffar

So, any ideas what to call Obama's ascension sermon?

I was thinking of the Sermon at Midfield.

I have no idea what they will call it, But with biden on the team, they could well crib it from the following.

"For today, we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives. We have created, for the first time in all history, a garden of pure ideology. Where each worker may bloom secure from the pests of contradictory and confusing truths. Our Unification of Thought is more powerful a weapon than any fleet or army on earth. We are one people. With one will. One resolve. One cause. Our enemies shall talk themselves to death. And we will bury them with their own confusion. We shall prevail!"

206 The Other Les  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:14:26pm

re: #205 Syrah

Throw the hammer!

207 NY Nana  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:14:45pm

re: #199 Rev. Churchmouse

I feel that the tide has turned, and he will win decisively.

I wish I could be that optimistic.
Last time around I was certain that Kerry would win. The only thing that really makes me hopeful is that I was wrong before.

There has been so much damaging info revealed that there seems to be a feeling building that he is not who he seems to be. And I have a feeling that the Billaries are still going to attack...again.

And the one proviso is who McCain selects for his VP candidate. I lean towards Romney. He seems to balance well with McCain. We should know Friday..McCain's birthday and right after the Demonrats' convention..excellent timing.

208 Cartman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:17:10pm

The Grecian chickens have come home to roost.

209 Inquisitive  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:18:12pm

Okay I am going to probably get in trouble for this but I finally have to ask and would like a good, reasonable answer WHY do they keep saying.." Barack Obama becomes first black American to win a major party presidential nomination " [Link: abcnews.go.com...]
He is bi-racial.

210 esch  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:18:36pm

Well apparently the WAB has no problem with Greek.

211 Cartman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:18:47pm

The night crew must be in the Lizard Lounge, eh?

212 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:18:58pm

Wow, some common sense thoughts on the convention from someone who is not a politico-file: my friend RT.

213 wolfie  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:20:07pm

re: #201 DesertSage

re: #203 Killian Bundy

She's a winner, IMO !

214 DesertSage  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:22:16pm

re: #203 Killian Bundy

Sarah on Glenn Beck

/you go girl!

Wow, she's really good!
McCain should choose her....NOW! She would tear 'ole plugs to pieces!

215 AmeriDan  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:22:23pm

re: #209 Inquisitive

Okay I am going to probably get in trouble for this but I finally have to ask and would like a good, reasonable answer WHY do they keep saying.." Barack Obama becomes first black American to win a major party presidential nomination " [Link: abcnews.go.com...]
He is bi-racial.

The white skinned persons of identity politics (i.e. That Democratic Party money men) have deemed him black enough.

Move along now... nothing to see here.

216 kuffar  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:22:45pm

re: #209 Inquisitive

Skin tone. Tiger Woods is 'black' even though he is a quarter black.

This is the party that'd call my brother in law Mexican for no reason other than skin tone even though he was born in Jackson, Mississippi, grew up in El Paso, Texas and his parents are from Mumbai, India.

They called my uncle Mexican, who took insult with that because he is straight from Old Spain.

217 Rev. Churchmouse  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:23:17pm

There has been so much damaging info revealed that there seems to be a feeling building that he is not who he seems to be

Not to be a pessimist, but....
Well, he isn't who he seems to be. You know that, I know that, most everybody in the room here knows that, but he's obviously quite able to seem to be who a lot of people would like to believe he is.

He did get the nomination of one of the only two parties that matter, didn't he? Now he has all the resources of that same party and all it's supporters to go to work convincing people he is who he seems to be.

The MSM isn't dead yet- they support the illusion.

218 tokyobk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:23:29pm

re: #207 NY Nana

There has been so much damaging info revealed that there seems to be a feeling building that he is not who he seems to be. And I have a feeling that the Billaries are still going to attack...again.

And the one proviso is who McCain selects for his VP candidate. I lean towards Romney. He seems to balance well with McCain. We should know Friday..McCain's birthday and right after the Demonrats' convention..excellent timing.

As a big fan of how Obama handled the Clintons, I think what is happening is that many expected his middle and end games to be like his opening moves and they are now where near as good.

Its not a particularly politically corecct comparison but I am in good company with people like Dr. Henry Louis Gates who admit to having watched and enjoyed Amos and Andy, especially when it gave TV the first all black cast. But there is one episode where Kingfish sells Andy a "dream" house in the suburbs. He drives Andy up there and sure enough there is a lovely house on a plot of land all ready for him so he signs the papers. Turns out, however, the house is just a facade and as Andy tries to move himself in he keeps walking through the front door and suddenly he is in the back yard. Thats what people are feeling about Obama. I saw an MSM
writer and I forget who wo was saying something like, we have to face that Obama is just a politician. Well if he is just that he aint much. That is where people are at. And then there is just this incredibly powerful feeling which I have in my heart as well which some people like Charles Barkley have succumbed to, to see a black president.

219 Cartman  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:24:20pm

re: #216 kuffar

Tiger Woods has stated that he does not consider himself to be black, in the "classic" sense.

220 kuffar  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:25:35pm

re: #219 Cartman

You ask my brother-in-law what hyphenated American he is and he'll reply Texas-American.

221 Palandine  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:25:45pm

re: #202 BlueCanuck

How about "The Life of Obama"?

"He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"

222 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:29:46pm

re: #214 DesertSage

Wow, she's really good!
McCain should choose her....NOW! She would tear 'ole plugs to pieces!

Alaska Governor Sarah Palin on Larry Kudlow

/Drill Drill Drill!

223 Inquisitive  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:30:01pm

Well at least someone got it right...
"DENVER -- It's official. At 4:48 p.m. local time (6:48 EDT and 3:48 PDT), Barack Obama became the first biracial American nominated for president of the United States by one of the nation's major parties."
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

224 wolfie  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:30:39pm

re: #209 Inquisitive

It seems in the US you are "black" if you are part black and you say you are. (Halle Berry, for example.) I think it's kinda weirod!

My Puerto Rican SIL is half black but considers herself "mixed" and not "black." If she were living in the US, she'd just say she's Puerto Rican.

(And BTW, she can't stand Obama!)

225 tokyobk  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:33:40pm

re: #224 wolfie

It seems in the US you are "black" if you are part black and you say you are. (Halle Berry, for example.) I think it's kinda weirod!

My Puerto Rican SIL is half black but considers herself "mixed" and not "black." If she were living in the US, she'd just say she's Puerto Rican.

(And BTW, she can't stand Obama!)

Thats true now, but even when I was growing up in the 70s, you were black if you had any known black ancestry regarless yof what you said you were. In fact, if you did have black ancestry and said you were not black, other black people took real offence and white people thought bad of you too, plus that you were anyway.

226 pat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:35:31pm

re: #224 wolfie

re: #224 wolfie

I consider myself mixed, and say so.

227 Inquisitive  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:38:00pm

One of the reasons I am really questioning this, is due to I think that a man who is completely unqualified for the position of POTUS may be getting voted into that position by some voters just because his claim to being black, but I think of him as being biracial, and just wonder if all those voters thought the same way, would he be where he is at now...or could be in 2 months.

228 DesertSage  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:38:23pm

re: #222 Killian Bundy

Alaska Governor Sarah Palin on Larry Kudlow

/Drill Drill Drill!

Damn! She's a real Reagan Republican!

McCain better choose her!

229 LeePro  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:38:55pm

re: #213 wolfie

re: #201 DesertSage

re: #203 Killian Bundy

re: #203 Killian Bundy

She's a winner, IMO !

I agree, but check out Glenn's interview (thanks, Killian)... he asked her point blank, and she seemed very reluctant, believes she can do more, much more, right where she is.

Much as I like love the idea of her as veep, I kind of agree with her assessment!

230 pat  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:40:58pm

re: #228 DesertSage

Pelosi talking to demonstrators.
"What if we drill in your heads?"

This dimwit needs to be retired. Infantile, ignorant, incapable of normal cogitation. An International embarrassment.

231 kuffar  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:45:19pm

We can all blame Jeri Ryan for giving Barack his senate seat.

232 NY Nana  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:46:07pm

re: #217 Rev. Churchmouse

Not to be a pessimist, but....
Well, he isn't who he seems to be. You know that, I know that, most everybody in the room here knows that, but he's obviously quite able to seem to be who a lot of people would like to believe he is.

He did get the nomination of one of the only two parties that matter, didn't he? Now he has all the resources of that same party and all it's supporters to go to work convincing people he is who he seems to be.

The MSM isn't dead yet- they support the illusion.

I agree with you, but I cannot even begin to comprehend how he has fooled so many gullible people. Are they putting something in the water?

McCain has to be very careful not to make a serious blunder, and to take the high road, yet manage to also undermine Hussein..not an easy task, but it can be done.

So help me, I wish I could go into hibernation until my absentee ballot comes, be woken up to sign, and go back into hibernation until 2 days after the election!

Got.to.go.to.sleep!

233 DesertSage  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:46:41pm

re: #229 LeePro

Lee, Governor Sarah Palin loves our troops!

234 Rev. Churchmouse  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:47:35pm

If being Infantile, ignorant, incapable of normal cogitation. An International embarrassment....
can get you elected Speaker of the House, than why not Obama for President?

It's the American Dream, no?... where anyone can grow up to be President. Sometimes they do.

( and, don't forget, as pointed out only a few posts back, half the people in the country are below average intelligence.
Is that half over or under-represented in those eligible citizens who vote ( and for that matter those ineligibile citizens and non-citizens who vote)?

235 NY Nana  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:50:24pm

re: #218 tokyobk

AAAAAARRGHH! Can't respond intelligently, not that this has ever stopped me, but I am seriously falling asleep sitting here...and just hate the marks the keyboard makes on my face! ;)

G'nite, all! Sweet dreams!

Leepro! Peekaboo, I see you!

236 wolfie  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:51:57pm

re: #225 tokyobk

I think it's changed some in the USA since the 70's, but not obviously not entirely.
Relations between "black" and "white" are much more casual in P Rico, perhaps because they've been intermarrying so much for so long.

237 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:52:54pm

re: #233 DesertSage

Lee, Governor Sarah Palin loves our troops!

/Naughty Alaskan librarian

238 LeePro  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:52:56pm

re: #233 DesertSage

Lee, Governor Sarah Palin loves our troops!

I know... you don't have to convince me! Someone's gotta convince HER! Even if McCain asks her, she may not accept!

239 LeePro  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:54:38pm

re: #235 NY Nana

AAAAAARRGHH! Can't respond intelligently, not that this has ever stopped me, but I am seriously falling asleep sitting here...and just hate the marks the keyboard makes on my face! ;)

G'nite, all! Sweet dreams!

Leepro! Peekaboo, I see you!

Love ya, { { {Nana} } } !
'weet dreams!

240 Rev. Churchmouse  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:58:37pm

Well, now I know what the "!" thingy is for at the top of every comment. It was a good idea to put "cancel" as a choice after clicking what turned out to be "Report this post to the administrator"

Can anybody tell me what I just did when I clicked the heart thingy on one of my posts and it turned from red to green?

241 TnTx13  Wed, Aug 27, 2008 11:59:37pm

re: #186 AmeriDan

Thanks. Is there any Memphis in the TN part of your username? I was lurking earlier and saw that you knew about the Ford family.

Sorry - I took a break and just saw your question. Nope, other end of the state - but the Fords are famous statewide ;) How about you?

242 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:01:37am

re: #238 LeePro

I know... you don't have to convince me! Someone's gotta convince HER! Even if McCain asks her, she may not accept!

According to Drudge, he's made his decision, TBA Friday morning.

/we can only pray he didn't [expletive deleted] it up

243 wolfie  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:02:33am

re: #240 Rev. Churchmouse

Can anybody tell me what I just did when I clicked the heart thingy on one of my posts and it turned from red to green?

You drove a stake into the heart of the poster and drained their blood out.
Oops.

244 wolfie  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:02:56am

re: #240 Rev. Churchmouse

You saved the post in your favorites!

245 DesertSage  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:03:11am

re: #238 LeePro

I know... you don't have to convince me! Someone's gotta convince HER! Even if McCain asks her, she may not accept!

I think she will accept, the VP candidacy is not something that you turn down.

Sarah Palin has perspective!

246 Inquisitive  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:06:40am

Good night to all....or since it is 2 a.m....I guess I should say good morning to all , as I leave to go lay my head on a pillow for awhile.

247 wolfie  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:08:47am

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
clunk
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

248 BignJames  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:14:39am

re: #242 Killian Bundy

Supposedly Mark Halperin was on Charlie Rose and reported it to be Lieberman.

249 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:23:56am

re: #248 BignJames

Supposedly Mark Halperin was on Charlie Rose and reported it to be Lieberman.

Well, that would be the worst case scenario, call St. Paul and cancel the Republican convention. Let's see, Lieberman is shunned by both parties, good thinking. McCain, making it harder than it has to be at every opportunity.

/if the Republicans can't put at least one real Republican on the ticket, I will vote for Obama, at least they take their buffoonery seriously, ride with the tide, go with the flow and all that

250 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:25:57am

I can just imagine a Biden/Lieberman debate.

/WTF?

251 LeePro  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:30:03am

OT

It Was A Dark and Stormy Night

They were together in the house. Just the two of them.
It was a cold, dark, stormy night. The storm had come quickly and
each time the thunder boomed he watched her jump . She looked across the room and admired his strong appearance...and
wished that he would take her in his arms, comfort her and protect her from the storm.

Suddenly, with a pop, the power went out... She screamed... He raced to the sofa where she was cowering. He didn't hesitate to pull her into his arms. He knew this was a forbidden union and
expected her to pull back. He was surprised when she didn't resist but instead clung to him.

The storm raged on...
They knew it was wrong...
Their families would never understand... So consumed were they in their FEAR that they heard no opening of doors...
just the faint click of a camera......

252 RTLM  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:30:51am

Where is Render these days?

253 BignJames  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:31:55am

re: #249 Killian Bundy

McCain/Lieberman would be a superior dem ticket than Obama/Biden.

There's just no way in hell I could vote Obama....well...maybe if forced at gunpoint.

254 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:31:56am

re: #251 LeePro

ROFLMAO. Thanks {LeePro}, I needed a good laugh this morning.

255 Mel Lono  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:32:41am

re: #249 Killian Bundy

Well, that would be the worst case scenario, call St. Paul and cancel the Republican convention. Let's see, Lieberman is shunned by both parties, good thinking. McCain, making it harder than it has to be at every opportunity.

/if the Republicans can't put at least one real Republican on the ticket, I will vote for Obama, at least they take their buffoonery seriously, ride with the tide, go with the flow and all that

Don't say I didn't warn you, like four months ago.

256 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:33:20am

re: #249 Killian Bundy

if the Republicans can't put at least one real Republican on the ticket

Revise that. A Bonkey?

/what, aren't there two qualified Republicans in this country?

257 LeePro  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:34:01am

re: #245 DesertSage

I think she will accept, the VP candidacy is not something that you turn down.

Sarah Palin has perspective!

God, I HOPE! ! !

258 pat  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:34:51am

re: #252 RTLM

Where is Render these days?

Took off with Kirly. Nothing wrong there, both cool people.

259 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:36:01am

re: #253 BignJames

McCain/Lieberman would be a superior dem ticket than Obama/Biden.

There's just no way in hell I could vote Obama....well...maybe if forced at gunpoint.

That's hardly the point here.

/Obama gave us a gift by not picking Hillary and if this rumor is true, McCain just handed him back a landslide victory

260 LeePro  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:36:50am

re: #254 BlueCanuck

ROFLMAO. Thanks {LeePro}, I needed a good laugh this morning.

Heh!
My first experience with Photobucket... glad it worked!

261 Colonel Panik  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:36:57am

re: #231 kuffar

We can all blame Jeri Ryan for giving Barack his senate seat.

No, we can blame the crooked Chicago Lib Dem judge who unsealed the divorce papers to the press against Jeri Ryan's wishes, IIRC.

The only thing I can blame Jeri Ryan for is giving me an excuse to watch the lamest of the all the Star Trek spinoffs.

262 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:38:06am

re: #255 Mel Lono

Don't say I didn't warn you, like four months ago.

/there's last straws and then there's potentially this

263 pat  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:38:28am

re: #259 Killian Bundy

No way. If McCain chose a Dem while we all still remember his open borders, kiss ass treatment of Hillary, Feingold and Bush, he will be too stupid to serve.

264 Mel Lono  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:41:09am

re: #261 Colonel Panik

Jeri Ryan...

I still remember Cheryl Tiggs and the fishnet one piece.

265 BignJames  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:45:04am

re: #259 Killian Bundy


Other than there not being a Republican in the race, you think the dems have greater appeal to moderate voters?

266 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:45:30am

McCain/Lieberman.

And to think, McCain is actually getting an unheard of bounce out of the Bonkey convention, he's now leading in tracking polls.

/announce that ticket and he'll immediately drop 10-15 points against Obama, take it to the bank

267 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:49:23am

re: #265 BignJames

Other than there not being a Republican in the race, you think the dems have greater appeal to moderate voters?

Personally, and I suspect a lot of other Republicans, don't care. Lieberman is A FLAMING EAST COAST LIBERAL!

/he lost on the Bonkey ticket and HAS ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS ON A REPUBLICAN TICKET, I MEAN, WTF?

268 Mel Lono  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:54:24am

re: #267 Killian Bundy

Personally, and I suspect a lot of other Republicans, don't care. Lieberman is A FLAMING EAST COAST LIBERAL!

/he lost on the Bonkey ticket and HAS ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS ON A REPUBLICAN TICKET, I MEAN, WTF?

McCain thinks he can win without covering his right. He only wants a VP that can manage the Senate in his own image. That;s why it won't be Romney or Huckabee. It's the age of Senators, and that's bad news for us.

269 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:54:48am

McCain/Lieberman.

/could go down as the most colossal political blunder in history

270 Karridine  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:57:24am

re: #269 Killian Bundy

McCain/Lieberman.

/could go down as the most colossal political blunder in history


Really! McCain has a real chance now, but if he alienates the REPUBLICAN base, it won't matter HOW MANY swing voters he picks up, he's dead in the water!

271 pat  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:57:27am

McCain=Shamnesty, Feingold(effectively giving the Dems a $100M advantage and overseas money), Anwar, offshore drilling, taxes, etc. This jackass blunders more than most people use a turn signal.

272 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 12:58:21am

re: #268 Mel Lono

McCain thinks he can win without covering his right. He only wants a VP that can manage the Senate in his own image. That;s why it won't be Romney or Huckabee. It's the age of Senators, and that's bad news for us.

He's winning for God's sake, against all odds, normal logic, and the Bonkey convention.

/all he has to do is pick a vetted Republican woman and Obama is toast, how hard can that be?

273 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:00:42am

re: #268 Mel Lono

McCain thinks he can win without covering his right. He only wants a VP that can manage the Senate in his own image. That;s why it won't be Romney or Huckabee. It's the age of Senators, and that's bad news for us.

/last time I checked, Lieberman is a Senate pariah

274 Mel Lono  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:03:52am

re: #272 Killian Bundy

He's winning for God's sake, against all odds, normal logic, and the Bonkey convention.

/all he has to do is pick a vetted Republican woman and Obama is toast, how hard can that be?

not arguing the point, KB. Just don't trust the man to do the right thing. Said it before. Like Pat said. Amnesty bill, not drill but now drill, screw the 1st amendment, etc.

275 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:03:53am

re: #265 BignJames

Other than there not being a Republican in the race, you think the dems have greater appeal to moderate voters?

You might want to write this down.

/naming Lieberman as the Republican VP pick equals guaranteed Obama win

276 BignJames  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:06:42am

re: #272 Killian Bundy

But he's a maverick.

277 Mel Lono  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:07:30am

re: #270 Karridine

How'd the PAD riots turn out for you?

278 LeePro  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:08:05am
279 Karridine  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:10:30am

re: #277 Mel Lono

How'd the PAD riots turn out for you?

LOUSY, Mel!
My third day without income because they've closed down sections of town by smashing windows and making it too dangerous to work there...

The PAD says, "The Prime Minister is inept!" then the PM bumbles about blustering and honking, like a spaz in heat!

/No offense to spazzes...

280 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:14:19am

re: #276 BignJames

But he's a maverick.

The more I think about it, there's just no way he would picked Lieberman. He wouldn't dare.

/his staff would quit en masse

281 Mel Lono  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:14:45am

re: #278 LeePro

God Bless Ted Nugent
And pass the ammunition.
Still wondering what the blonde was going to say though.

282 Mel Lono  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:16:02am

re: #279 Karridine

Glad you're safe and they didn't make a left turn.

283 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:16:42am

re: #278 LeePro

THESE ARE JUST TOO FUNNY!
NoBama
Uncle Ted (Nugent) to Hillary, Nancy, and Teddy
Imagine There's No Liberals!

DING x 4.

/one for you and one for each of the videos.
//rated them on youtube. :)

284 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:17:32am

re: #281 Mel Lono

God Bless Ted Nugent
And pass the ammunition.
Still wondering what the blonde was going to say though.

/Free For All

285 docremulac  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:21:45am

I was suspicious of this propaganda sounding headline:

"3,000 Iraq war veterans, anti-war protesters demonstrate at DNC"

So I tracked down a video of the event. I counted 10 to 20 at the most military people, or at least people in military uniforms. So in the typical liberal style of treating lying like a fine art they've made a headline look like thousands of Iraq vets and some war protesters all marched together.

That's like saying "Billions of dollars in real estate owned by Docremulac and Donald Trump." Technially true but I was born with good looks, not money so my portion of that empire would be, well, let's just say very small. The statement straddles the line between misleading and lying with a distinct tilt towards total bullsh*t.

286 LeePro  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:29:16am

re: #283 BlueCanuck

DING x 4.

/one for you and one for each of the videos.
//rated them on youtube. :)

Thanks and HI! { { {Blue} } }

And now I must bid all adieu! It's almost 3:30am here, and I gotta get outa here before littleoldlady comes in and bodyslams me to the floor! ! !

{ { {Love ya', LoL} } }, just can't stay awake!

287 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:31:37am

re: #286 LeePro

Night { {LeePro} }, weet dreams.

288 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:32:20am

{LeePro!}

/me neither :-(
//who took the f***in' caffeine outta my coffee?!

289 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:34:53am

Love Shack

/no Lieberman rumors here

290 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:36:05am

Morning littleoldlady. Don't know about your problem, but I think mine is working alright so far.

/just 5 hours to go till I hit the sack.

291 docremulac  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:36:13am

re: #280 Killian Bundy

"re: #276 BignJames

But he's a maverick.

The more I think about it, there's just no way he would picked Lieberman. He wouldn't dare.

/his staff would quit en masse"


One would hope, but I've got a creepy thought I can't get out of my head:

Of all the vice Presidential candidates, Lieberman is the only one that makes McCain look younger and more handsome.

That one's been bugging me. A politician putting petty ego above the good of the country? Wouldn't be the first time.

292 Sharmuta  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:37:32am
293 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:38:45am

BlueCanuck! :-)

I crawled out early to get some work done. And...here I am at LGF.

/if only I had a nickel for every time that happened....

294 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:42:34am

re: #292 Sharmuta

Sharmuta! :-)

A perennial "story" indeed.

/when push comes to shove the State Department puts the kabosh on it. :-( :-( :-(

295 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:43:58am

Did someone say guitar music?

/I know for a fact McCain can't play guitar

296 Sharmuta  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:43:59am

re: #294 littleoldlady

Maybe John Bolton won't.

/I'm just chock full of Hope!

297 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:45:55am

re: #296 Sharmuta

Maybe John Bolton won't.

/I'm just chock full of Hope!

Don't ever Change, my friend! ;-)

298 Mel Lono  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:46:34am

re: #295 Killian Bundy

That's one of my all-time favorite clips. And saw it on LGF first. Classical gas, my ass.

299 Sharmuta  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:46:36am

re: #297 littleoldlady

Don't ever Change, my friend! ;-)

I lack the audacity to do so. ;p

300 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:50:50am

Morning folks. How're things? How was Biden's speech?

301 Last Man  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:50:54am

Good old Russia throwing their own shit around rampaging against the beard tax. How about a radiated crater as the capital of Third-Rome?
What's next, German irredentist yearnings for Prussia?
Fucking Europe never fails to entertain. At least the President Elect got his pat on the head.

302 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:51:01am

re: #298 Mel Lono

That's one of my all-time favorite clips. And saw it on LGF first. Classical gas, my ass.

Possibly by me.

/those are the three best guitarists on the planet, John McLaughlin being the World Champion

303 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:56:47am

granny! :-)

I made it through about 1/2 of Bill Clinton and then I had to switch to the Cartoon Network.

304 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 1:58:16am

re: #300 galloping granny

Morning folks. How're things? How was Biden's speech?

/underwhelming, even for Bonkeys

305 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------>
Help yourselves!

306 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:01:09am

Am I being too audacious in hoping for fruitcup?

307 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:01:46am

re: #300 galloping granny

Morning folks. How're things? How was Biden's speech?

Executive summary.

/liar now or liar then?

308 Sharmuta  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:03:08am

re: #306 Fenway_Nation

Am I being too audacious in hoping for fruitcup?

I don't know- is Fruitcup above your pay grade?

309 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:04:16am

re: #308 Sharmuta


What isn't?

310 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:05:15am

re: #303 littleoldlady

granny! :-)

I made it through about 1/2 of Bill Clinton and then I had to switch to the Cartoon Network.

You and me both. Right now I'm trying to hunt up a link from last night. Pretty lengthy article which stated that Bill Ayer's wife Bernadette Dohrn worked at the Chicago lawfirm where Michelle Obama met Barry.
I thought that might be nice to point out as a comment with that new Texas ad. I don't suppose you remember the article?

311 yma o hyd  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:07:19am

re: #22 Pawn of the Oppressor

I think a dog would make a good President, just so long as he knows enough to bark at appropriate times, and to growl at the Iranians.

That would be a Border Collie, then ...


Hiya, Lizards!
Are ye all keen for the 'Big Show' tonight to start?

312 Sharmuta  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:08:24am

re: #309 Fenway_Nation

Fruitcup would never be above my pay grade.

313 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:08:25am

re: #311 yma o hyd

That would be a Border Collie, then ...


Hiya, Lizards!
Are ye all keen for the 'Big Show' tonight to start?

You mean the circus? Somebody was just on the tube crowing that the Republicans wouldn't be able to put on anywhere near the show the dems have. Thank G_d!

314 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:09:19am

re: #305 littleoldlady

thankee for our daily helping of fruitcup. :)

315 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:09:54am

re: #311 yma o hyd

That would be a Border Collie, then ...


Hiya, Lizards!
Are ye all keen for the 'Big Show' tonight to start?

What time is it? I need to know so I can arrange my schedule to miss it.

316 yma o hyd  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:10:08am

re: #129 Irene NYC

And along with Obama's tax, redistribute and spend programs, there are more local initiatives being proposed by moonbats like this:

The insanity is starting to get the upper hand.

'Exit tax' - yep, thats what people had to pay when they were actually and officially 'allowed' to leave any of the former Eastern Bloc Communist countries ...

317 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:11:57am

re: #310 galloping granny

I have SO MANY articles lying around on my desktop...

/THANK YOU CHARLES & LGFers FOR ALL THE GREAT SPINOFFS!

...that I couldn't possibly find one out of so many sordid details about Obama & Friends.

318 yma o hyd  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:12:29am

re: #313 galloping granny

You mean the circus? Somebody was just on the tube crowing that the Republicans wouldn't be able to put on anywhere near the show the dems have. Thank G_d!

Aww, I meant if you really wanted a dog for POTUS, its gotta be a Border Collie ...

As for the 'circus' - I just hope the Rep convention is a business-like as can be, that would really ram home the point that this is serious business and not show biz!

319 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:12:46am

re: #315 BlueCanuck

What time is it? I need to know so I can arrange my schedule to miss it.

You mean that you are not going to watch The One's Coronation? How dare you miss the koolaid.

320 yma o hyd  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:13:40am

re: #315 BlueCanuck

What time is it? I need to know so I can arrange my schedule to miss it.

Well, one thing is for sure - it'll be at a time where I'm fast asleep over here :-))


(Desperately moving my little Lizard legs to keep up with what was posted overnight here ...)

321 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:13:45am

Fenway! :-)

yma o hyd! :-)

BlueCanuck! :-)
Quite welcome!

322 akak  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:15:16am

re: #300 galloping granny

Morning folks. How're things? How was Biden's speech?

What could possibly be left to say?

323 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:15:52am

re: #319 galloping granny

Yeah, I will probably be too busy clinging to my guns and religon. :D

/now where did I put my guns and permit?

324 BignJames  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:16:17am

re: #322 akak

What could possibly be left to say?

ouch

325 TnTx13  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:16:42am

re: #303 littleoldlady

granny! :-)

I made it through about 1/2 of Bill Clinton and then I had to switch to the Cartoon Network.

Gosh - I thought he was ON the Cartoon Network!

326 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:17:44am

re: #318 yma o hyd

Aww, I meant if you really wanted a dog for POTUS, its gotta be a Border Collie ...

As for the 'circus' - I just hope the Rep convention is a business-like as can be, that would really ram home the point that this is serious business and not show biz!

I don't mind a little fun. But this mess that has been very obviously staged & choreographed, with even the "vote" nothing more than a sham is outrageous.

Not to mention the huge expense. I know that the Secret Service had to ask for $9.5 million extra in funds to cover extra security, almost entirely for Obama's World Tour and Invesco Field. How much did it cost to rent Invesco - over and above the Pepsi Center? How much is that Greek Temple set costing? And the full size mock up of Air Force One? How can people who blatantly waste this kind of money present themselves as good stewards of our nation's fortunes?

I don't mind some showmanship, but this really smacks of Caligula - or Nero fiddling while Rome burned.

327 Killian Bundy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:17:51am

re: #319 galloping granny

You mean that you are not going to watch The One's Coronation? How dare you miss the koolaid.

/I hear there's going to be chariot races around the miniature plywood Greek temple

328 BignJames  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:18:14am

re: #325 TnTx13


Pinnochio?

329 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:18:43am

re: #323 BlueCanuck

Yeah, I will probably be too busy clinging to my guns and religon. :D

/now where did I put my guns and permit?

I don't think I'll cling to my gun tonight. I would be hard put not to blow the TV to Kingdom Come.

330 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:20:07am

re: #326 galloping granny

Actually the Airforce One mockup is not related to Obamas speech. It's there as part of a tour apparently. In fact if you check out the fuselage mockup it looks like one of the orginal aircraft used when Kennedy brought in the first paint scheme.

/not really sure so going link diving.

331 yma o hyd  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:20:51am

re: #321 littleoldlady

Fenway! :-)

yma o hyd! :-)

BlueCanuck! :-)
Quite welcome!

Good morning, littleoldlady!
I hope its a fine day where youa re - here its more of the same grey, drizzly, damp weather we've had all month!

332 BignJames  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:21:46am

re: #330 BlueCanuck


I think you're right...looks like a 707.....AF One has been a 747 for 30 years?

333 akak  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:23:26am

re: #324 BignJames

ouch

"I was introduced to him by a friend who was raising money for him and the friends name was Dr. Khalid al Mansour from Texas. He is the principle adviser to one of the world's richest men. He told me about Obama. He wrote to me about him and his introduction was 'there is a young man that has applied to Harvard and I know that you have a few friends left there becasue you used to go up there to speak, would you please write a letter in support of him?'...I wrote a letter in support of him to my friends at Harvard saying ot them I thought there was a genius that was going to be available and I sure hoped they would treat him kindly."

[Link: townhall.com...]

Now they should be talking about that! A Saudi/Hahvad/Barry and all

But then again, maybe not....there's some paint over here needs dryin.

334 yma o hyd  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:25:18am

re: #326 galloping granny

Absolutely - and I hope it will backfire big time!

In the 1992 general election here, Labour under Neil Kinnock (Bidens tole his speech ...) did just such a triumphal show, they had a slick and showbiz-like election campaing.
The Tories hammered home points about Labour tax policies, and were 'old-fashioned'. John Major, the Prime Minister, campainged from a soap box he took with him to all sorts of outdoor meetings.#He won by the biggest personal vote for any Prime Minsiter that century.
This was called the 'soap box election'.

So - if the reps keep it serious, it will work out well for them.
Hybris will always be punished ...

335 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:29:03am

re: #331 yma o hyd

Well...it's dark. ;-)

We've been having spectacular weather. Could use some rain at this point.

336 yma o hyd  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:30:42am

If this has been debated already - forgive me for bringing it up again.
But ... we had a brief snippet of Hillary being marched down to the rostrum yesterday to announce the BO was unanimously acclaimed - and it looked as if she really was frogmarched, with two bullies, one either side, to make sure she didn't escape. Happy she obviously wasn't.

We also got shown the 'public acclaim' - well, it reminded me of two things:
* the usual communist party elections 'by acclaim' - and ...
* Goebbels' famous speech asking the crowd 'do you want total war', followed by the crowd's roar of approval ...

Far left and far right meeting each other, in images which are irrefutable.
Thank you for the proof of this, dems!

337 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:31:16am

re: #335 littleoldlady

Well...it's dark. ;-)

We've been having spectacular weather. Could use some rain at this point.

Me too. But after more than a month of daily rain, I don't care really. There was so much rain the garden has been mostly a wash anyway. Intense heat in May made the early crops bolt, and now the cold/rain for so long has delayed things for weeks. The poor tomato plants look atrocious. Loaded with tomatoes that have been there so long some of them are dropping without even ripening. Very disappointing all in all.

338 yma o hyd  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:32:00am

re: #335 littleoldlady

Well...it's dark. ;-)

We've been having spectacular weather. Could use some rain at this point.

Pity my lungs aren't strong enough to blow the clouds to you, against the prevailing winds ...
We so long for a glimpse of the sun!

339 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:33:20am

re: #336 yma o hyd

If this has been debated already - forgive me for bringing it up again.
But ... we had a brief snippet of Hillary being marched down to the rostrum yesterday to announce the BO was unanimously acclaimed - and it looked as if she really was frogmarched, with two bullies, one either side, to make sure she didn't escape. Happy she obviously wasn't.

We also got shown the 'public acclaim' - well, it reminded me of two things:
* the usual communist party elections 'by acclaim' - and ...
* Goebbels' famous speech asking the crowd 'do you want total war', followed by the crowd's roar of approval ...

Far left and far right meeting each other, in images which are irrefutable.
Thank you for the proof of this, dems!

Excellent observation. I turned on the boob tube a few minutes ago to catch just a bit of an interview that Great Sustren did with Susan Serandon. First words out of the woman's mouth - "Everyone knows I'm far left."

340 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:34:25am

Good morning, Lizards.

341 yma o hyd  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:36:03am

re: #337 galloping granny

Me too. But after more than a month of daily rain, I don't care really. There was so much rain the garden has been mostly a wash anyway. Intense heat in May made the early crops bolt, and now the cold/rain for so long has delayed things for weeks. The poor tomato plants look atrocious. Loaded with tomatoes that have been there so long some of them are dropping without even ripening. Very disappointing all in all.

You can make the most delicious green tomato chutney from all those 'failed' tomatoes.

as for rain - well, it hasn't stopped for weeks here, my flowers are a soggy mess and the snail&slug populations have grown to such an extent that my attempts at feeding them on dead-headed flowers and lettuce leaves are too puny.
And I've not been able to sit outside on the patio once, not once!

342 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:38:00am

re: #341 yma o hyd

You can make the most delicious green tomato chutney from all those 'failed' tomatoes.

as for rain - well, it hasn't stopped for weeks here, my flowers are a soggy mess and the snail&slug populations have grown to such an extent that my attempts at feeding them on dead-headed flowers and lettuce leaves are too puny.
And I've not been able to sit outside on the patio once, not once!

I hear you there. I haven't barbecued since the 4th of July. Or been in the pool.

343 Sharmuta  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:40:20am

re: #340 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, GotC.

344 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:41:41am

re: #341 yma o hyd

Egg shells and/or beer.

/both kill slugs
//talloldman goes bonkers when I give them his beer, though ;-)

345 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:42:50am

Interesting article about the Obama/Ayers connection -

[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

When Obama was making his first run for the Illinois Senate, Ayers and terrorist wife Bernadine Dohrn had Obama to his house for a 1995 campaign event. Ayers also served with Obama on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago for three years and made a donation to the Friends of Barack Obama in 2001

Bernadine Dohrn was once employed as a paralegal at the Sidley etc. lawfirm where Michelle Obama met and mentored Barry. (detailed in a lengthy article yesterday that I failed to bookmark, but also mentioned here - [Link: archive.redstate.com...] and other places)

346 yma o hyd  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:42:54am

re: #342 galloping granny

I hear you there. I haven't barbecued since the 4th of July. Or been in the pool.

The worst, for this vain female, is that I got meself a nice summer dress earlier this year, and its still hanging there, unworn, while I have to stomp around the park with Miss Dog still wearing wellies!
And the equinox is only a bit over three weeks away: thats the usual time one dusts off one's wellies ...

Oh, bitching about the weather is such a wonderful thing!

347 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:43:02am

goddess! :-)

348 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:43:21am

Good morning Goddess. How's things?

349 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:44:52am

Morning goddess.


/and for all you out there still link diving and searching. :)

350 yma o hyd  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:45:05am

re: #344 littleoldlady

Egg shells and/or beer.

/both kill slugs
//talloldman goes bonkers when I give them his beer, though ;-)

Tried that without the slightest impact!
In fact, there's nothing I haven't tried - usually, my gentle approach works quite well, but nobviously not this year.

Best, if the garden is big enough, and there are no resident dogs taking offence, are frogs in a pond, and hedgehogs ...

351 yma o hyd  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:48:58am

re: #349 BlueCanuck

Morning goddess.


/and for all you out there still link diving and searching. :)

'Link diving' - I loves it!
I shall use this expression forthwith, with your kind permission :-))

352 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:55:36am

re: #351 yma o hyd

Heh, I don't think I orginated it. But go ahead and use it.

/still searching for that picture of the AF1 mockup and article. :p

353 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 2:59:21am

re: #352 BlueCanuck

Heh, I don't think I orginated it. But go ahead and use it.

/still searching for that picture of the AF1 mockup and article. :p

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

:

354 FamHistoryGuy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:00:55am

re: #323 BlueCanuck

The pawn shop has two of mine at the moment, but I have at least four others around the house. Not counting the replica 1860 Army Colt black powder revolver.

355 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:07:32am

re: #353 galloping granny

Thank you. I don't know why I couldn't find it. Okay here's a picture of a 707 and the link given by galloping granny.

Now what was I doing again?

356 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:09:06am

re: #354 FamHistoryGuy

I don't have any firearms at the moment. I lack the proper paperwork, and storage space. It's a lot harder up here in Canada.

357 yma o hyd  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:09:09am

BBL, Lizards - the hoover soo wants a run-out!

358 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:09:18am

So Fox and Friends are saying that Biden ripped "McCain a new one."

359 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:10:40am

re: #358 galloping granny

I'm talking to a friend who is saying the same thing.

Is there a transcript anywhere?

360 Sharmuta  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:15:14am

re: #359 littleoldlady

Fox has transcripts at their site.

361 yochanan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:15:42am

re: #172 DesertSage

Blasphemy!

That's our next VP you're talking about there!

works for me biden vs palin

NO CONTEST

362 FamHistoryGuy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:15:47am

re: #356 BlueCanuck

A bit easier here in Texas. Have the money and pass the Federal background check. Will have to fill out the background check to get the two back though.

Had to replace the front seal on my engine and that drained the bank account. Should have had it replaced when the engine was being put together to go in this car.

363 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:15:50am

re: #359 littleoldlady

I'm talking to a friend who is saying the same thing.

Is there a transcript anywhere?

I haven't seen one, but then I also haven't been looking.

364 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:17:41am

re: #360 Sharmuta

THANKS! :-)

365 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:17:50am

re: #359 littleoldlady

I'm talking to a friend who is saying the same thing.

Is there a transcript anywhere?

Here you go - [Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

366 yochanan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:20:30am

re: #329 galloping granny

I don't think I'll cling to my gun tonight. I would be hard put not to blow the TV to Kingdom Come.

YOU WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE T.V. IMPERFERATE?

367 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:21:20am

re: #362 FamHistoryGuy

In order to purchase a firearm, you must take a safety course(no problem with that), pass a background check (ditto), provide proof of proper storage facilities at your residence (safes, trigger locks, etc.), and I think there's a few other things you do BEFORE purchasing a rifle. Then you have to pay to register it in the NATIONAL database.

/God damn the Liberal government of 93.
//don't ask about the requirements for hand guns see here

368 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:21:27am

Aha - the Dems are saying "no, this isn't greek mythology - it is a government building." I said yesterday he was pretending to be outside the White House or standing on the Capitol steps! (Idiots apparently don't know that the WH and Capitol are Greek Revival.)

Pretentious & Presumptious

369 yochanan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:21:30am

re: #344 littleoldlady

DO YOU REMEMBER TO SERVE THE BEER COLD AND OPENED?

370 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:21:54am

re: #365 galloping granny

Thank you, too, granny!

371 Sharmuta  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:22:16am

re: #364 littleoldlady

Any time, {lol}.

372 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:22:30am

re: #366 yochanan

YOU WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE T.V. IMPERFERATE?

Since I need it starting next week for school for the kiddo. . . . .

373 Tigger2005  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:23:37am

Why, I didn't know Mark Twain wrote country music.

374 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:23:55am

re: #369 yochanan

yochanan! :-)

Our local slugs are such lushes they come with their own can opener and don't care of the beer is cold, old or full of mold.

;-)

375 FamHistoryGuy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:28:51am

re: #367 BlueCanuck

I watched some of that exercise from here. And the registry is no where near complete and the RCMP had to keep asking for money to build a proper database?
Total exercise in futility as I recall.

I am not overly bright, but it seems like it would not take all that much to set up a data base using a few simple questions and entries.

The FBI here seems to have pretty much the same problem with database building.

376 vagabond trader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:29:21am

Good morning all. I missed everything after Bubba's acceptance speech. Anything interesting?

377 BignJames  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:30:39am
378 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:31:57am

re: #375 FamHistoryGuy

Yes, especially since the database practically only covered rifles. Most shootings in Toronto involve hand guns. The new firearm legislation was supposed to reduce firearm related crimes.

/I would laugh if I wasn't busy crying over their stupidity.

379 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:32:05am

This is ominous -


'Hizbullah tightens hold on Venezuela'

Agents of Hizbullah and Iran's Revolutionary Guard have deployed special forces in Venezuela intended to kidnap Jewish businessmen and smuggle them to Lebanon, Israel Radio reported Thursday.

An expert on counter-terrorism warned in an interview with The Los Angeles Times that Iranian-backed agents have managed to recruit collaborators among Venezuelan citizens living in the capital Caracas.

The collaborators are supposed to observe traffic at the Caracas airport and around it in order to collect information on Jewish travelers there.

Hizbullah has strengthened its grasp of Venezuela following the warm relationship that grew between Venezuela and Iran.

Experts quoted by the Times warned that Venezuela might become a base out of which Hizbullah could carry out terror attacks.

380 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:32:58am

Have a great day, Lizards!

381 rightside  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:33:13am

Good morning lizards,

Anyone else feel like it's Sept. 10th 2001, after der Schlickmeisters speech?

382 littleoldlady  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:34:08am

Good day, ALL!™

/oy...I am so late

383 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:34:16am

re: #381 rightside

Good morning lizards,

Anyone else feel like it's Sept. 10th 2001, after der Schlickmeisters speech?

Yes.

384 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:34:47am

Anyone think it's possible that Invesco doesn't fill to capacity for the speech tomorrow? I would love for only 20, 25,000 to show up when 70 was slated. Or is that just wishful thinking?

385 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:36:43am

re: #382 littleoldlady

Bye littleoldlady. Have a good day.

/and may your coffee's caffeine be found.

386 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:37:36am

re: #379 galloping granny

Not just for Israeli business folk. But if they have a base in the Americas, it makes it easier to travel across the Caribbean to cause trouble here.

387 Spirit93  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:37:58am

re: #384 TheMatrix31

Prager said tickets were very hard to get.

No shortage of stupid people.

388 vagabond trader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:39:05am

re: #377 BignJames

"Right wing hatchet man" Gee, no Joooo attached to that description. Sounds like something out of the third reich. Just guessing here, elect the Obama and we can kiss our free speech goodbye. Change!

389 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:39:37am

re: #384 TheMatrix31

Anyone think it's possible that Invesco doesn't fill to capacity for the speech tomorrow? I would love for only 20, 25,000 to show up when 70 was slated. Or is that just wishful thinking?

I think if that happens we would not know about it anyway. The media will run interference for him. Go watch the tapes of his announcement of Joe Biden and listen carefully to the crowd in the background. Very apparent that this event was not attended by a huge crowd, perhaps not even a very large crowd.

390 rightside  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:39:49am

re: #384 TheMatrix31

His ego alone will take up 25-35K seats.

391 FamHistoryGuy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:40:17am

re: #378 BlueCanuck

"reducing crime" is always the excuse given. It tends to only worsen the situation as it focuses on the wrong people using the wrong tactics. Put the violent criminals in jail for long periods of time and keep them off the streets. A couple of places here in the US finally went to "use a gun in a crime and go to jail for a long time". No plea bargans and no parole. Gun use in crimes dropped. The word got out and the hoods paid attention.

392 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:41:33am

re: #388 vagabond trader

"Right wing hatchet man" Gee, no Joooo attached to that description. Sounds like something out of the third reich. Just guessing here, elect the Obama and we can kiss our free speech goodbye. Change!

There is an awful lot of that going around. Go look at some of the film clips of Hitler's big rallies and then compare them with The Coronation. But then Hitler was a master propagandist, even more so that the Soviets.

393 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:42:55am

re: #387 Spirit93

Prager said tickets were very hard to get.

No shortage of stupid people.

You had to actually work for the Obama campaign for your ticket or pay big bucks for it.

394 vagabond trader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:45:16am

re: #392 galloping granny

I agree GG. What is most disturbing is that the propaganda is wrapped in packaging very attractive to so many.

395 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:46:28am

Morning all. I cant believe it but the Dems have driven their bus off the cliff again. Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, Rezko, "Tiny", three years in the Senata with little to show. Half of McCain's ads will be vid clips of Obama, Biden and the Clintons.
I hope he gives a good speech tonight, because his poll numbers are heading south from now on.
And I hope McCain makes a good veep pick. I'm glad I don't have to make that choice.

396 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:46:44am

re: #392 galloping granny

And they say we're the ones denying them their freedoms?

/they weren't called the (national) Socialists for nothing...

397 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:47:42am

re: #395 Jim in Virginia

I get the feeling we'll be calling in Murphy's Law on that...

398 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:50:37am

re: #396 laZardo

And they say we're the ones denying them their freedoms?

/they weren't called the (national) Socialists for nothing...

All depends on how you define that word, doesn't it?

399 vagabond trader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:50:49am

GG, Axelrod even looks like he'd be at home planning media strategy with H!tler.

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

What a creepy guy, and for shame, a Jew.

400 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:51:12am

re: #397 laZardo

I get the feeling we'll be calling in Murphy's Law on that...

Explain please - haven't had caffeine yet.

401 Tigger2005  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:53:31am

re: #379 galloping granny

This is ominous -


'Hizbullah tightens hold on Venezuela'

It shouldn't be "ominous." None of this shit should be "ominous." If we would just THUMP nations that give us a clear casus belli, none of this shit would even be HAPPENING. And Venezuela gave us a clear casus belli long ago. So has Mexico.

402 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:54:35am

re: #400 galloping granny

"If anything can go wrong, it will."

Re #396: Mmm, deconstructionism. q:

403 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:55:13am

re: #401 Tigger2005

It shouldn't be "ominous." None of this shit should be "ominous." If we would just THUMP nations that give us a clear casus belli, none of this shit would even be HAPPENING. And Venezuela gave us a clear casus belli long ago. So has Mexico.

I agree. And I am particularly concerned about the incursions of the Mexican military into the Southwest. One of our border guards gets held at gun point and threatened and we just let them walk back into Mexico?

404 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:56:24am

re: #401 Tigger2005

IAF flew to Kampala to rescue Israeli hostages. If Hizbollah tries to smuggle kidnapped Jews out of Venezuela there will be some suspicious shipwrecks in the Caribbean.

405 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:57:50am

re: #402 laZardo

"If anything can go wrong, it will."

Re #396: Mmm, deconstructionism. q:

Re McCain's VP pick? Murphy is always right.
Have you heard of Cole's law?

406 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 3:58:35am

re: #403 galloping granny

The reputation of the Mexican law enforcement has plummeted in recent months because they've been ineffective at dealing with crimes such as kidnapping and drug smuggling. I'm guessing this is them getting cocky at trying to bolster their reputation.

As for Venezuela, Chavez is slowly getting more and more desperate, especially after he couldn't depend on democracy to make him dictator-for-life last year. The Iranian domestic economy IIRC is also suffering from double-digit inflation. They're coming close to their last resorts, and we don't want to know what those might be.

407 Ledger1  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:00:36am

Talking about Hitler and expansionism, it looks like Putin is expanding his grip on Georgia.

It’s discomforting to know an appeasenick like Obama might be our next C in C. Things will go south if Obama is elected.

[Navy Times]

The U.S. Embassy in Georgia had earlier said the ship was headed to Poti, but then retracted the statement. Zaza Gogava, head of Georgia’s joint forces command, said Poti could have been mined by Russian forces and still contained several sunken Georgian ships hit in the fighting.


US, Russia anchor ships in Georgian ports

[and]

See: Signs of Expanding Russian Ambitions

408 Sharmuta  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:01:42am

re: #405 Jim in Virginia

Re McCain's VP pick? Murphy is always right.
Have you heard of Cole's law?

Booooooo! :p

409 yesandno  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:01:58am

Greek columns, anniversary of I Have a Dream, The Goracle at the Temple...


The media will self destruct thinking of lofty comparisons, reminding us the 2000 election was stolen and the conventions members being reminded that they should go home and turn off every appliance in the house or send money for carbon offsets.............

MLK might be proud to know that a black man has been selected to run for President. I don't think he would appreciate that the man wasn't judged on the content of his character, but rather on the color of his skin.

It is going to be a long evening....

410 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:02:26am

re: #405 Jim in Virginia

No, but at least we're not invoking the Extra Crispy Theory.

/baaaad follow-up

//dinner, bbl

411 sparrowlake  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:02:40am

re: #358 galloping granny

So Fox and Friends are saying that Biden ripped "McCain a new one."

I don't know about ripping anything, but with friends like Biden, McCain needs no enemies. Like Obama, Biden will throw close friends under the bus as and when politically expendient.
They suit eachother in their craven common ambition, as both unsuccessfully aspire to the rhetorical genius of a Marcus Antonius:

"This was the noblest Roman of them all:
All the conspirators, save only he,
Did that they did in envy of great Caesar;
He, only in a general honest thought
And common good to all, made one of them."
--Julius Caesar Act 5, scene 5, 68–72
-and-
"Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears!
I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them,
The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let it be with Caesar."
--Julius Caesar Act 3, scene 2, 74–77

412 Tigger2005  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:03:32am

re: #406 laZardo

The reputation of the Mexican law enforcement has plummeted in recent months because they've been ineffective at dealing with crimes such as kidnapping and drug smuggling. I'm guessing this is them getting cocky at trying to bolster their reputation.

As for Venezuela, Chavez is slowly getting more and more desperate, especially after he couldn't depend on democracy to make him dictator-for-life last year. The Iranian domestic economy IIRC is also suffering from double-digit inflation. They're coming close to their last resorts, and we don't want to know what those might be.

I don't know what these countries have to do to get the thumpings they so richly deserve. WHY do we continue to put up with their crap? Military "stretched thin?" Hah. Use drones and air power. Make them swallow their smug grins. I'm so sick of it.

What's going to happen, Russia going to come running to help them? Yeah right. If we would just show what we can really do Putin would shit his pants.

413 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:04:05am

re: #407 Ledger1

Also see this article on their request to certain other countries in Asia.

414 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:06:34am

re: #411 sparrowlake

I don't know about ripping anything, but with friends like Biden, McCain needs no enemies.

Exactly. I think that if I were John McCain, win or lose I would have nothing to do with Joe Biden.

415 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:07:34am

Fox & Friends just quoted my "looks like the Nuremberg rally"

416 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:08:53am

How appropriate: Invesco Field opened Sept 10, 2001.
So says USA Today.
Off to work. Chins up, lizards.

417 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:08:53am

re: #415 galloping granny

Oh good, so it's nut just us.

418 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:10:35am

re: #417 BlueCanuck

Oh good, so it's nut just us.

Well, it was Kilmeade who said "some on the right are already saying that this looks like Hitler's Nuremberg Rally." Which he got here.

419 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:11:39am

Move from Pepsi to Invesco "symbolizes a move away from the Clinton era." They have been dethroned for sure.

420 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:13:28am
421 ibmkeyboard  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:13:51am

re: #409 yesandno

Greek columns, anniversary of I Have a Dream, The Goracle at the Temple...


It reminds me of the lost glory of the Nero Olympics.

If Obamessia had been in charge,
He would have taken all the medals.

422 Tigger2005  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:17:36am

re: #419 galloping granny

Move from Pepsi to Invesco "symbolizes a move away from the Clinton era." They have been dethroned for sure.

Translation:

"We're done even pretending to support even the most basic American values. Capitalism is evil, individuality is evil, the melting pot and the English language are evil, America itself is evil and rotten to the core and always has been. Vive la Revolucion!"

423 CIA Reject  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:17:46am

re: #419 galloping granny

Move from Pepsi to Invesco "symbolizes a move away from the Clinton era." They have been dethroned for sure.

And I guess that's a Good Thing [tm] because when the Clintoons were "on the throne" the democrats actually won elections. At least we don't have to worry about THAT anymore.

/I hope anyway...

Good Morning Granny and Everyone!

424 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:17:54am
425 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:19:29am

re: #415 galloping granny

RIGHT WING HATCHET GRANNY!

/lol

426 Tigger2005  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:20:42am

re: #422 Tigger2005

Translation:

"We're done even pretending to support even the most basic American values. Capitalism is evil, individuality is evil, the melting pot and the English language are evil, America itself is evil and rotten to the core and always has been. Vive la Revolucion!"

Oh, I left out "the oil companies are evil, and drilling is evil, and running power lines anywhere is evil."

427 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:21:36am

re: #426 Tigger2005

Don't forget "the military is evil, and protecting our citizens is a lie."

428 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:22:03am

re: #422 Tigger2005

Translation:

"We're done even pretending to support even the most basic American values. Capitalism is evil, individuality is evil, the melting pot and the English language are evil, America itself is evil and rotten to the core and always has been. Vive la Revolucion!"

Oh yeah. And they are not even pretending anymore. The very first thing I saw when I clicked on the TV was an interview with Susan Sarandon -"Everyone knows I'm very far left." Translation - she is a communist. When, exactly, did the party of Jefferson become the party of Karl Marx?

429 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:22:04am

re: #426 Tigger2005

Oh, I left out "the oil companies are evil, and drilling is evil, and running power lines anywhere is evil."


And nuclear power plants?

430 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:22:56am

re: #423 CIA Reject

And I guess that's a Good Thing [tm] because when the Clintoons were "on the throne" the democrats actually won elections. At least we don't have to worry about THAT anymore.

/I hope anyway...

Good Morning Granny and Everyone!

From your keyboard to G_d's ears!

431 Tigger2005  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:23:15am

re: #427 laZardo

Don't forget "the military is evil, and protecting our citizens is a lie."

And "all American wars are evil, but Russia's wars are OK because they were forced into them by OUR evil!"

432 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:23:48am

Hey, what're we doin?

433 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:25:23am

re: #431 Tigger2005

And "all American wars are evil, but Russia's wars are OK because they were forced into them by OUR evil!"

You've got their beliefs down perfectly. *shudder*

434 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:25:45am

re: #431 Tigger2005

More like "Russia's wars are bad too, but only because they take after us!"

435 sparrowlake  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:25:51am

re: #379 galloping granny

This is ominous -
'Hizbullah tightens hold on Venezuela'

Ominous indeed. Israel has been making headway in signing trade deals, including in South America while Chavez' shenanigans have prevented Venezuela's admission into Mercosur. I wonder how Brazil and Argentina will feel about having Hezbollah in the neighbourhood.

Israel signs free-trade accord with South American bloc

Trade between Israel and Mercosur countries neared $1.6 billion in 2006. Mercosur is comprised of full members Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay, with Venezuela awaiting approval to join the trade group.

MERCOSUR-VENEZUELA: Integration - Easier Said Than Done

Mercosur and Venezuela have not eliminated their mutual suspicions, which are delaying Venezuela’s admission to the trade bloc as the fifth full member, a move that was announced with great fanfare in late 2005.
436 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:26:50am

Guess who designed Obama's Faux White House Temple set? The guys who did Brittany Spears set for her last (failed) tour . . . .

437 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:26:57am

re: #433 scottishbuzzsaw

It isn't hard, all you need is a couple neurons to rub together.

438 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:30:49am

From Drudge:

MCCAIN HAS DECIDED ON HIS RUNNING MATE; 11 AM FRIDAY...
PERSON WILL BE NOTIFIED TOMORROW...

I don't know about you but I'm waiting by the phone.

439 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:30:51am

re: #1 Syrah

Clever. Very clever. First first I've seen in awhile so well put and so undeleted.

440 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:36:18am

re: #438 Dar ul Harbarian

From Drudge:

MCCAIN HAS DECIDED ON HIS RUNNING MATE; 11 AM FRIDAY...
PERSON WILL BE NOTIFIED TOMORROW...

I don't know about you but I'm waiting by the phone.

They are SO trying to turn McCain's announcement into an Obamesque debacle. Today? Tomorrow? Rove warns Lieberman? Romney not in Running? Who are the guys with the earphones?

441 sparrowlake  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:39:15am

A few more Mark Twain dog quotes:

Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in.
- Mark Twain, a Biography

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man.
- Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar

A composite dog is a dog that's made up of all the valuable qualities that's in the dog breed--kind of a syndicate; and a mongrel is made up of the riffraff that's left over.
- Mark Twain in Eruption, p. 222. Used in "His Grandfather's Old Ram" speech.

The dog is a gentleman; I hope to go to his heaven, not man's.
- Letter to W. D. Howells, 4/2/1899

442 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:45:51am

re: #437 BlueCanuck

I can only assume that the far left/Marxist contingent feels that they've transformed our society enough, through both political and academic means, that BHO, whose resume is non-existent but whose ideology is correct, can be propelled into office by their efforts. A candidate with so many ties to the family of 60s radicals...I've never seem them so blatant before. They must feel that it's finally their time.

443 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:47:36am

re: #442 scottishbuzzsaw

And as Marxists they rely on the "youth" to propel them. I fear for my contemporaries...

444 BlueCanuck  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:47:41am

Well my relief is on time so I am outta here. Stay scaly lizards.

445 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:57:08am

re: #444 BlueCanuck

Cheers.

446 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 4:58:24am

Pawlenty was just on Fox & Friends. He is pretty articulate. Funny. Nailed Joe Biden to the wall. He might just be a good pick.

447 yochanan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:02:30am

i hear the donks are getting upset at ABC maybe one of the media rats is leaving the sinking ship seems the ABC reporter they had arrested was doing a piece on DONK FAT CATS.

448 CIA Reject  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:06:34am

re: #446 galloping granny

Pawlenty was just on Fox & Friends. He is pretty articulate. Funny. Nailed Joe Biden to the wall. He might just be a good pick.

I know he's not under consideration, and he probably wouldn't be interested even if he was, but I still think Mark Schweiker would be a good pick because he embodies a lot of the positive aspects of a Guliani (ie leadership) without any of the negatives that make Rudy unpopular with conservatives.

449 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:12:08am

Anyone post this yet?
This?
snip:

Sen. Barack Obama's campaign is organizing its supporters tonight to
confront Tribune-owned WGN radio in Chicago for having a critic of the
Illinois Democrat on its air.

"WGN radio is giving right-wing hatchet man Stanley Kurtz a forum to
air his baseless, fear-mongering terrorist smears," Obama's campaign
wrote in an e-mail to supporters. "He's currently scheduled to spend
a solid two-hour block from 9:00 to 11:00 p.m. pushing lies, distortions,
and manipulations about Barack and University of Illinois professor William Ayers."


snip:

"It is absolutely unacceptable that WGN would give a slimy character assassin like Kurtz time for his divisive, destructive ranting on our public airwaves," the note continued. "At the very least, they should offer sane, honest rebuttal to every one of Kurtz's lies.".....
Christenson said the Obama campaign was asked to have someone appear on the show and the headquarters declined the request.

"He got into the files just yesterday, so we wanted to have him on to find out what he found and, if at all possible, we wanted to get the Obama campaign to get their side of the story," Christenson said. "That's why the uproar is kind of amazing, because we wanted the Obama campaign's take as well to kind of balance it out."

Remember they were offered the chance to come on and rebut but refused.
This is scary how they are trying to shut down free speech

450 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:13:35am

HERE is what that Greek Mythology/Government building stage set is all about -

[Link: www.drmartinlutherkingjr.com...]

Given from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

On August 28

Now THAT is really presumptuous. Obama is not and never will be a Martin Luther King Jr.

451 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:16:03am

re: #449 Typicalwhitey

Anyone post this yet?
This?
snip:


Remember they were offered the chance to come on and rebut but refused.
This is scary how they are trying to shut down free speech

It is up in the links, but nobody has discussed it yet. Between the attempts to intimidate stations into not running the Ayers ad, the sequestering of the Annenburg records by the university that Ayers works for, the arrest last night of the ABC photographer on a public sidewallk and this - VERY scary. Needs a thread all its own.

453 doriangrey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:17:44am

Good morning Lizards....

454 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:18:40am
455 Pullus Iulius  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:19:03am

McCain cold pick a bad case of athlete's foot as his running mate and it'd still make Biden look like yesterday's lunch. I just hope that McCain's people make the announcement as businesslike and non-self important as possible, thereby showing up BO once again for the drama queen he is. As a matter of fact, McCain should take everything that the marching morons and their sham messiah have done for the last week (including tonight) and then do the exact opposite. Thus claiming the high ground in the name of mental health.

456 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:19:14am

re: #452 edinbud

Birdbrains of a feather.

Watching Top Gear now, actually. These guys definitely aren't the biggest fans of ol' Ken.

457 LeonidasOfSparta  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:23:02am

re: #42 Capitalist Tool

Levin was hilarious -- playing the theme music from Star Wars and clips of Joe Biden yelling "Barack America." I love Mark Levin. He's the most educated legal mind and a constitutionalist and he's funny-- LOVE Mark Levin.

458 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:24:43am

re: #453 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards....

Good morning...looks like your coffee is late!

459 CIA Reject  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:26:29am

re: #455 Pullus Iulius

McCain cold pick a bad case of athlete's foot as his running mate and it'd still make Biden look like yesterday's lunch. I just hope that McCain's people make the announcement as businesslike and non-self important as possible, thereby showing up BO once again for the drama queen he is. As a matter of fact, McCain should take everything that the marching morons and their sham messiah have done for the last week (including tonight) and then do the exact opposite. Thus claiming the high ground in the name of mental health.

What he said!

460 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:27:48am

Democrats will kneel before the "Temple of Obama" tonight.

He is getting hammered on his Mt. O-Lymus theme lol

461 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:29:16am

From the article:

As if a Rocky Mountain coronation were not lofty enough, Barack Obama will aim for Mount Olympus when he accepts his party's nomination atop an enormous, Greek-columned stage - designed by the same cheesy set team that put together Britney Spears' last tour.
462 doriangrey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:31:15am

re: #458 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning...looks like your coffee is late!

Sigh.... Yup, looks like I'll have to make my own....

463 tfc3rid  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:31:27am

We are so doomed...

The Messiah is amazing... And he speaks to the Middle and Lower Class... He will take away what the evil rich people have worked so hard for... They have too much... It is wrong to have too much...

We have to restore ourselves and our image to the World... We don't give enought billions of our dollars to fledgling nations across the globe... We have to give more... We need to give them our profits...

No more unneccessary wars... Putin and Dinnerjacket willl look in the eyes of the Messiah and be transformed...

The DNC is a joke... These people hate America... We are evil, mean, blah, blah, blah... They have no idea they live in the single greatest country on Earth...

50 Million people are going to vote for the Messiah... We need to make sure their votes are neutralized...

464 LeonidasOfSparta  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:31:47am

re: #449 Typicalwhitey

they can't rebut it-- THE TRUTH WILL OUT as any lawyer will tell you. If you are speaking the truth, all the ranting about liable and slander will be proven in court to be truth. So how do you rebut the truth? with bluster and accusations and alot of empty blahblahblah-- BO's signature methodology.

HE can't do squat and his minions can't do squat --they can't possibly find a way to 'paint' it all cutesy and fuzzy and make it go away.

And if these past few weeks are any indication of the tenacity of talk radio to bring these issues up over and over and keep them fresh in the minds of voters, these next months will be FULL of clips from Freddoso's book, full of indisputable facts, full of ads from McCain about how dangerous BO is for our nation, and about BO and his Marxist/Communist mindset.

GO WGN!

465 HoosierHoops  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:31:55am

Good morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?

466 CIA Reject  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:32:36am

re: #449 Typicalwhitey

And is it just me, or is the language the BO campaign using in their "rebuttal" identical in hyperbole to the Cold War era Pravda rants that we all used to get such a laugh out of?

/It was funny then because it was happening somewhere else- now it's just scary.

467 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:32:50am

re: #465 HoosierHoops

HRRRRGGRRRHHAAARGH.

/and you? ^-^

468 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:34:03am

John McCain - if you're watching, find a clip of this to run in New England!

Red Sox, Patriots Booed at Convention
@ 6:28 pm by Chris Good

Before casting 52 of her state's votes for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) and 65 for Barack Obama at the Democratic National Convention in Denver, the chair of Massachusetts's delegation introduced her state as "home of the winning Boston Red Sox…and the winning New England Patriots."

The convention crowd, delegates and spectators included, booed the Sox and Patriots vociferously.

The Boston Celtics, also mentioned, received a less enthusiastic boo.

The Massachusetts chair's mention of ailing Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.), moments earlier, eilicited a rousing cheer.

469 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:34:33am

re: #466 CIA Reject

It explains why a lot of support for Obama comes from people who started to experience history after the Cold War ended. They don't really have a sense of what happened when that sort of rhetoric got people into power.

470 CIA Reject  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:35:10am

re: #465 HoosierHoops

Good morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?

'Morning 'Hoops - doing fine here, how about you?

471 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:35:36am

re: #464 LeonidasOfSparta

they can't rebut it-- THE TRUTH WILL OUT as any lawyer will tell you. If you are speaking the truth, all the ranting about liable and slander will be proven in court to be truth. So how do you rebut the truth? with bluster and accusations and alot of empty blahblahblah-- BO's signature methodology.

HE can't do squat and his minions can't do squat --they can't possibly find a way to 'paint' it all cutesy and fuzzy and make it go away.

And if these past few weeks are any indication of the tenacity of talk radio to bring these issues up over and over and keep them fresh in the minds of voters, these next months will be FULL of clips from Freddoso's book, full of indisputable facts, full of ads from McCain about how dangerous BO is for our nation, and about BO and his Marxist/Communist mindset.

GO WGN!

Which reminds me that we should all be calling WGN about the time they open to express support!

472 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:36:03am

re: #468 galloping granny

That would seriously put the icing on a Giuliani VP nomination.

473 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:36:24am

re: #463 tfc3rid

We are so doomed...


Mornin' Sunshine! Feeling pessimistic are we?

474 doriangrey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:36:47am

re: #465 HoosierHoops

Good morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?

Gtumble gtumble... Making my own coffee this morning, other than that just fine, and how are you this fine morning... ;p

475 HoosierHoops  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:38:38am

re: #467 laZardo

HRRRRGGRRRHHAAARGH.

/and you? ^-^

Problems LaZardo? Touch the garment of obama and thou shalt be healed..
/
Coffee dorian? what up?

476 Pullus Iulius  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:38:54am

And let's keep Realwest (and doctor) in our thoughts today for a speedy and pain-free recovery from yesterday's oral surgery. And a swift return. Morning ain't the same.

477 HoosierHoops  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:41:00am

Good Morning CIA..
I think i'd better Tivo the great ones speech tonight..
I'll bet there are nuggets galore awaiting replay...

478 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:41:27am

re: #472 laZardo

That would seriously put the icing on a Giuliani VP nomination.

It will definitely do Obama no good at all in New England, where the Sox and the Patriots are bigger than mother, church and country combined.

479 CIA Reject  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:42:11am

re: #469 laZardo

Even so, how can you listen to somebody make a statement like:

"WGN radio is giving right-wing hatchet man Stanley Kurtz a forum to
air his baseless, fear-mongering terrorist smears"

and not at least shake your head, if not bust right out in laughter, over how over-the-top it is. Regardless of what your historical perspective is it sounds like something out of a Monty Python sketch, not a presidential campaign!

480 HoosierHoops  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:42:12am

re: #476 Pullus Iulius

And let's keep Realwest (and doctor) in our thoughts today for a speedy and pain-free recovery from yesterday's oral surgery. And a swift return. Morning ain't the same.

yea.. I sure hope Real is going OK today.

481 doriangrey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:42:52am

re: #475 HoosierHoops

Problems LaZardo? Touch the garment of obama and thou shalt be healed..
/
Coffee dorian? what up?

Well sure, cant have to much coffee in the morning.... ;)

482 doriangrey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:44:05am

re: #479 CIA Reject

Even so, how can you listen to somebody make a statement like:

and not at least shake your head, if not bust right out in laughter, over how over-the-top it is. Regardless of what your historical perspective is it sounds like something out of a Monty Python sketch, not a presidential campaign!

Heh heh heh a genuine "who you gonna believe, me or your lying eye's" moment...

483 HoosierHoops  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:44:13am

re: #481 doriangrey

Well sure, cant have to much coffee in the morning.... ;)

Have you ever played at Torey Pines? I heard it was an awesome course..

484 irish rose  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:45:28am

Good morning, lizards.

Just read through Zombies last report and some of the comment links... more proof (as if we needed more) that the liberal left is collectively insane.

You have to wonder how many of these people were permanant residents in mental health facilities prior to deinstitutionalization.

Anyway.... 65 pleasant degrees and sunny here along the Lake Michigan shoreline, hows' everyone?

I missed Bills' big speech last night... decided to take my accordion to the pub for some music and a pint, instead. No regrets.

Has anyone heard from Real West?

485 doriangrey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:45:44am

re: #483 HoosierHoops

Have you ever played at Torey Pines? I heard it was an awesome course..

Awwww.... It is beautiful, but a real bitch.... They don't play the US Open there for nothing.

486 CIA Reject  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:46:09am

re: #477 HoosierHoops

Good Morning CIA..
I think i'd better Tivo the great ones speech tonight..
I'll bet there are nuggets galore awaiting replay...

You a indeed braver than I 'Hoopster. I wouldn't even chance watching the Great Address in a mirror with the sound turned off lest I be instantly changed to stone for my lack of faith in The One. :-)

487 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:46:49am

re: #475 HoosierHoops

And I'll be sure to run back and thank him, unlike the other 9 out of ten elitists who didn't.

/been up since 6 AM due to finals...at least tomorrow's the last day.

488 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:47:39am

re: #478 galloping granny

I'd give a witty reply to that but unfortunately Loppy and Fenway might be lurking. D:

489 doriangrey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:49:34am

re: #484 irish rose

Good morning, lizards.

Just read through Zombies last report and some of the comment links... more proof (as if we needed more) that the liberal left is collectively insane.

You have to wonder how many of these people were permanant residents in mental health facilities prior to deinstitutionalization.

Anyway.... 65 pleasant degrees and sunny here along the Lake Michigan shoreline, hows' everyone?

I missed Bills' big speech last night... decided to take my accordion to the pub for some music and a pint, instead. No regrets.

Has anyone heard from Real West?

Sadly I heard the whole damned thing, Bill Clinton did the whole "read my lips, I did not have sexual relations with that woman" lying through his teeth thing and did it for all he was worth. The dummycrats snorted it up like it was a one foot long 1/4 inch wide line of Peruvian Cocaine.

490 HoosierHoops  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:49:48am

re: #485 doriangrey

Awwww.... It is beautiful, but a real bitch.... They don't play the US Open there for nothing.

It's really hard to believe but I am scheduled to play a scramble on 9-11 this year. I play in it every year..so i guess somebody looked at the calendar and said..hmmm why not 9-11?
Doesn't seem right for some reason to have fun on that day..

491 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:50:04am

re: #488 laZardo

I'd give a witty reply to that but unfortunately Loppy and Fenway might be lurking. D:

My point exactly.

492 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:50:26am

re: #484 irish rose

Good morning, lizards.

I missed Bills' big speech last night... decided to take my accordion to the pub for some music and a pint, instead. No regrets.

Has anyone heard from Real West?


Good morning, Rose! Sounds like a fine way to spend the evening! Haven't heard anything yet about realwest...

493 HoosierHoops  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:53:42am

re: #484 irish rose

Good morning, lizards.

I missed Bills' big speech last night... decided to take my accordion to the pub for some music and a pint, instead. No regrets.

Has anyone heard from Real West?


I heard if you were a bad person and died and went to hell there were like a million accordian players there with watered down beer.
Playing for eternity.. So Irish Rose..I've been a very good boy.
/heheh good morning!

494 lori lane  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:54:19am

re: #490 HoosierHoops

Hey, good morning, LIzzards! {HH}! What up?

One more night of lies.
I don't know if I can stand the euphoria tonight.

Sure hope the hurricane fizzles...

495 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:54:35am
496 doriangrey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:56:11am

re: #490 HoosierHoops

It's really hard to believe but I am scheduled to play a scramble on 9-11 this year. I play in it every year..so i guess somebody looked at the calendar and said..hmmm why not 9-11?
Doesn't seem right for some reason to have fun on that day..

Forgive me for being politically incorrect and insensitive then but I think its a great day for it. I will never forget or forgive what happened on 09-11-01, but I refuse to cower in the shadows, tremble in fear or wring my hands and wail about it. I say Carpe diem, act with boldness, honor those who fell on that day by living life to the fullest and flip those who did it the finger by grabbing life and running across the finish line with it.

497 HoosierHoops  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:56:21am

re: #494 lori lane

Hey, good morning, LIzzards! {HH}! What up?

One more night of lies.
I don't know if I can stand the euphoria tonight.

Sure hope the hurricane fizzles...

Good Morning Lori {lori}
Are you coming up to the big city and going to Ribfeast?
Good Food, and great music!

498 Kenneth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:56:34am

Good morning! I just watched the latest ad, Remote Control, from the McCain campaign.

Wow! It is devastating. Every talking head in it is a Democrat: Bill, Hillary, Biden, and even Obama himself all explaining why Obama is not ready for the job. This is set against a backdrop of news images from Pakistan, Georgia, Iran & so on. The message is understated yet powerful.

And if the comments from Obamaniacs on YouTube are anything to go by, the Obama campaign will have a very difficult task responding to it.

499 vxbush  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:57:01am

Morning, everyone. I haven't been on much lately after my husband's surgery to his shoulder, but I'm hoping I can start getting some more time online.

Now, I have a question about last night's roll call. Actually, several.

1. Did the DNC rules allow for an acclamation vote?
2. Did San Fran Nan break the rules by not allowing a "No" vote to acclamation?
3. Has such an acclamation ever been made before in previous conventions by either party?

I'm just really surprised that no one seems to be saying much about what appears to me to be a great big change in convention protocol. But then maybe I'm not aware enough of convention history to realize that this isn't as big a deal as I think it is.

500 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:57:31am
501 HoosierHoops  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:58:22am

re: #496 doriangrey

Forgive me for being politically incorrect and insensitive then but I think its a great day for it. I will never forget or forgive what happened on 09-11-01, but I refuse to cower in the shadows, tremble in fear or wring my hands and wail about it. I say Carpe diem, act with boldness, honor those who fell on that day by living life to the fullest and flip those who did it the finger by grabbing life and running across the finish line with it.

You're a great guy even if you didn't have a red ( chick magnet) Vette.
I hadn't thought about it that way..

502 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:58:47am

re: #496 doriangrey

FDR had a saying on terror...or rather its synonym.

503 FrogMarch  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:58:53am

re: #52 RTLM

Somewhere in Denver, a truck-towed mock-up of Air Force One is being very seriously reconsidered.

Link

Obama's TV ads already tells us that he is president.

The very ed of the ad says: "Barack Obama -- President."

504 doriangrey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:59:01am

re: #499 vxbush

Morning, everyone. I haven't been on much lately after my husband's surgery to his shoulder, but I'm hoping I can start getting some more time online.

Now, I have a question about last night's roll call. Actually, several.

1. Did the DNC rules allow for an acclamation vote?
2. Did San Fran Nan break the rules by not allowing a "No" vote to acclamation?
3. Has such an acclamation ever been made before in previous conventions by either party?

I'm just really surprised that no one seems to be saying much about what appears to me to be a great big change in convention protocol. But then maybe I'm not aware enough of convention history to realize that this isn't as big a deal as I think it is.

The dems lying, breaking rules? So what is it you are confused about? nothing but business us usual here...

505 lori lane  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:59:38am

re: #497 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lori {lori}
Are you coming up to the big city and going to Ribfeast?
Good Food, and great music!

We've never been to the Ribfest! Kind of hard to believe considering how much my family loves them! Is it Saturday? If so, we will be tailgating and attending the FIRST HOME FOOTBALL GAME. :) GO HOOSIERS! :)

I have to take my computer to the Apple store either today or tomorrow. Ugh. It's sick. Really sick.

506 irish rose  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:59:41am

re: #492 scottishbuzzsaw

It was a fine way to spend the evening... good music, good friends, a cold pint of Woodchuck from the draft, and no cares.

The couple who owns the pub are very good friends of mine, good Irish Catholics and lifelong Dems both in their mid to ate 60's. They were in Hillarys' corner for this election, and turned the TV off in disgust when Bill took the podium... first time that TV has ever gone off on a pub night to my recollection, and I've been a regular there for six years.

They tell me that this is the first year in their long lifetimes as voting Democrats, that they're going to sit out an election. And they're absolutely serious about it... they hate Obama that much.

507 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 5:59:50am

re: #499 vxbush

Morning, everyone. I haven't been on much lately after my husband's surgery to his shoulder, but I'm hoping I can start getting some more time online.

Now, I have a question about last night's roll call. Actually, several.

1. Did the DNC rules allow for an acclamation vote?
2. Did San Fran Nan break the rules by not allowing a "No" vote to acclamation?
3. Has such an acclamation ever been made before in previous conventions by either party?

I'm just really surprised that no one seems to be saying much about what appears to me to be a great big change in convention protocol. But then maybe I'm not aware enough of convention history to realize that this isn't as big a deal as I think it is.

Vx, the entire vote was a sham anyway. It was done off camera from the hotel rooms. San Fran Nan didn't even pause for breath, did she? Does she really think anyone could miss that? My bigger question is this though -

Is this really what the democrats mean by "democracy"? And is this really the ideal of American fair play & democracy they want the world to see?

508 vxbush  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:00:04am

re: #504 doriangrey

The dems lying, breaking rules? So what is it you are confused about? nothing but business us usual here...

Oh, I realize that, but rarely have I seen them be so blatant about it, actually showing it on the national news. Hence my questions.

509 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:00:11am

re: #503 FrogMarch

Obama's TV ads already tells us that he is president.

The very ed of the ad says: "Barack Obama -- President."

REally? got link?

510 DistantThunder  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:00:51am

re: #500 Typicalwhitey

And another

Says page not found

511 FrogMarch  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:01:16am

re: #63 Irene NYC

Can anybody explain this ban at the DNC:

WTF?

Bureaucrats and legislators with too much time of their hands?

512 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:01:47am

Good morning all y'all - from a warmish (70 degrees going up to 82 degrees, humid with heavy rains predicted) overcast Charlotte!

Hope all y'all are doing well. They extracted one tooth, put some stitches in my jaw and I HURT even though they gave me Demerol to go with my morphine and other pain meds.
And I think I've pretty much stopped bleeding.
Other than that, I'm doing ok and I appreciate the kind e-mails that I received from some of y'all very much!

513 FrogMarch  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:01:57am

re: #503 FrogMarch

Obama's TV ads already tell us that he is president.

The very end of the ad says: "Barack Obama -- President."

fixed....

514 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:02:14am

From my earlier link:

The ones who are building his Grecian (formula) Temple are the same people who have built sets for Britney Spears concerts!

515 vxbush  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:03:00am

re: #507 galloping granny

Vx, the entire vote was a sham anyway. It was done off camera from the hotel rooms. San Fran Nan didn't even pause for breath, did she? Does she really think anyone could miss that? My bigger question is this though -

Is this really what the democrats mean by "democracy"? And is this really the ideal of American fair play & democracy they want the world to see?

Aye, I knew about the hotel room counting. But that doesn't bother me as much, because I could see them doing this to make sure they have the screen numbers correct of the current vote total. (It bothered me at first, but I'm now realizing that's because I hadn't thought about everything happening beforehand.)

But your bolded part is dead on. And it's what I'm driving at, although poorly.

516 FrogMarch  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:03:02am

re: #509 galloping granny

REally? got link?

No. I just saw it while watching the TV last night.
I'll see if I can find it.

517 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:03:08am

re: #512 realwest

As long as you won't be eating through a straw for too long, I'm confident you'll make it. [:

518 irish rose  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:03:41am

re: #493 HoosierHoops

I heard if you were a bad person and died and went to hell there were like a million accordian players there with watered down beer.
Playing for eternity.. So Irish Rose..I've been a very good boy.
/heheh good morning!


Bite your tongue, the sound of an accordion is the sweetest sound on earth :).

I went to Ireland a few years back with a large group of musicians and I had to go through security with my gig bag. I put it on the rack and they asked me what it was. I told them it was an accordion, and would they like me to take it out for them so they could check it?

They both backed away with a nervous laugh and said uh, no...no... just put it there on the conveyor. The x-ray will suffice.

519 doriangrey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:03:59am

re: #508 vxbush

Oh, I realize that, but rarely have I seen them be so blatant about it, actually showing it on the national news. Hence my questions.

Hmmm, I am remembering a certain Democrat congressman back in the late 70's. He had illegal sex with a under aged male page. The Republicans voted to censor him, the dems responded by giving him a standing ovation in the house. So yea, they have been this blatant for pretty much most of my life.

520 vxbush  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:05:10am

re: #519 doriangrey

Hmmm, I am remembering a certain Democrat congressman back in the late 70's. He had illegal sex with a under aged male page. The Republicans voted to censor him, the dems responded by giving him a standing ovation in the house. So yea, they have been this blatant for pretty much most of my life.

Okay. But what about at conventions? Because that's part of the party selection process, and you would think (I know, thinking doesn't occur in the Democrat party) that they would want this to be open, honest, and above board.

521 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:05:14am

re: #506 irish rose

It was a fine way to spend the evening... good music, good friends, a cold pint of Woodchuck from the draft, and no cares.


Oh, that sounds wonderful...good medicine during these crazy times.

They tell me that this is the first year in their long lifetimes as voting Democrats, that they're going to sit out an election. And they're absolutely serious about it... they hate Obama that much.


I'm starting to hear this more and more...a good sign, I hope.

522 Kenneth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:05:31am
523 quickjustice  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:05:41am

Hmmm. A labor activist blogger from Chicago does a great job of tying Obama not just to Bill Ayers, but to Ayers's father. Daddy was a corporate chieftain (Consolidated Edison) of liberal political persuasion who got Obama into Sidley & Austin, and jump-started his career. Also a great discussion of Ayers's participation in the school "reform" movement in the Chicago public schools aimed at turning them into training camps for socialist revolutionaries. Obama was one of his allies in that effort.

Link here: [Link: globallabor.blogspot.com...]

524 doriangrey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:05:56am

re: #512 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a warmish (70 degrees going up to 82 degrees, humid with heavy rains predicted) overcast Charlotte!

Hope all y'all are doing well. They extracted one tooth, put some stitches in my jaw and I HURT even though they gave me Demerol to go with my morphine and other pain meds.
And I think I've pretty much stopped bleeding.
Other than that, I'm doing ok and I appreciate the kind e-mails that I received from some of y'all very much!

Good morning realwest, glad to see that you are back so soon. I wont ask how you are feeling, your post pretty much says it all...

525 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:06:06am
526 HoosierHoops  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:06:09am

re: #512 realwest

Hang in there Realwest!

527 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:06:38am

re: #512 realwest

Good morning, realwest! What a delightful surprise!

528 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:07:13am

re: #507 galloping granny

My problem with the Democrat "count" started long before the "acclamation vote."

Why is it that a party that wants to connect with the PEOPLE and still kinda fumes over the electoral college bit in 2000 has to have an extra layer of delegates that decide independently of the people's vote?

/asked that question once on my art board forums...stone silence.

529 CIA Reject  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:07:17am

re: #512 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a warmish (70 degrees going up to 82 degrees, humid with heavy rains predicted) overcast Charlotte!

Hope all y'all are doing well. They extracted one tooth, put some stitches in my jaw and I HURT even though they gave me Demerol to go with my morphine and other pain meds.
And I think I've pretty much stopped bleeding.
Other than that, I'm doing ok and I appreciate the kind e-mails that I received from some of y'all very much!

Good to see you back in one piece RW! Hang in there, prayers for your recovery are on their way up!

530 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:07:35am

Hey realwest!

531 irish rose  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:08:20am

Good morning realwest, glad to hear that the dreaded thing is finally over with and that you're on the mend.

532 FrogMarch  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:08:33am

re: #509 galloping granny

REally? got link?

Actually - if you watch any of his ads - that's just what it says at the bottom of the screen:

Barack Obama: Presumptuous.

533 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:10:02am

re: #523 quickjustice

From the entry...

In any case, imho, if either Hillary or Obama wins they will keep our troops in Iraq for at least three years and possibly longer....makes you want to run into the arms of Ralph!

Someone quipped to me that it would actually be Ralph Nader's fault for the last eight years.

/snerk-worthy, it was...

534 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:10:11am

re: #524 doriangrey Hi dorian - thanks, I'm pretty wore out here, which is why I put all the info in that one post! Lemme tell ya, growing older is not, NOT for wussies.
Say...........don't you have an appointment with the Dentist today?!

535 doriangrey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:10:18am

re: #520 vxbush

Okay. But what about at conventions? Because that's part of the party selection process, and you would think (I know, thinking doesn't occur in the Democrat party) that they would want this to be open, honest, and above board.

Why? They have all but publicly admitted to being a communist party. Bill Clinton's speech last night was practically a demand that Barak institute communism "WHEN" he is elected. Since they are so blatantly communist why shouldn't their convention resemble the former Soviet Parties conventions? It is after all who their are modeling themselves after. At this point all they are missing is the purges...

536 midwestgak  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:10:37am

OT Just realized I lost my ATM card. Checked my balance via telephone. Someone is using it as a debit card (which I never do) and have accessed about $100 since 8/25. Going to the bank when it opens at 8:30a.m. to stop the bleeding. Will canceling the ATM card be enough?

537 doriangrey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:11:47am

re: #534 realwest

Hi dorian - thanks, I'm pretty wore out here, which is why I put all the info in that one post! Lemme tell ya, growing older is not, NOT for wussies.
Say...........don't you have an appointment with the Dentist today?!

Tomorrow.. And yes, my entire head hurts just anticipating it.

538 lifeofthemind  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:11:51am

re: #452 edinbud

Former London mayor Ken Livingstone is to work as a consultant for Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

Putin gets Schroeder, Chavez gets Red Ken.

"Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce." - K. Marx, 18th Brumaire of Louis Napoleon

539 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:12:28am

re: #535 doriangrey

Mussolini was always proud of being a socialist. The reason he started Fascism was because he felt that international(e) socialism took away from Italy's national identity.

/hmm...

540 doriangrey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:12:29am

Well got to run, going to be late now as it is...

541 CIA Reject  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:13:05am

re: #535 doriangrey

Why? They have all but publicly admitted to being a communist party. Bill Clinton's speech last night was practically a demand that Barak institute communism "WHEN" he is elected. Since they are so blatantly communist why shouldn't their convention resemble the former Soviet Parties conventions? It is after all who their are modeling themselves after. At this point all they are missing is the purges...

Oh, don't worry- they'll be purges all right. They'll start in the democrat party the day after election day when BO has lost and Her Thighness begins her 2012 presidential campaign...

542 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:13:34am

Fire causes missile explosions in Ukraine

The fire broke out in a forest near the town of Lozovaya, some 300 miles (500 kilometers) east of the capital Kiev, the Defense Ministry said. Firefighters couldn't handle the blaze, and it spread to the arsenal, which contains some 100 tons of ammunition on a 1,235-acre (500-hectare) site, it said.

543 vxbush  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:13:51am

re: #535 doriangrey

Why? They have all but publicly admitted to being a communist party. Bill Clinton's speech last night was practically a demand that Barak institute communism "WHEN" he is elected. Since they are so blatantly communist why shouldn't their convention resemble the former Soviet Parties conventions? It is after all who their are modeling themselves after. At this point all they are missing is the purges...

Oh, I guess I still have that streak in me for honesty and integrity. How silly of me.

But the historical question about the conventions still stands--has an acclamation vote ever been used before in conventions?

Pointers to where this is being discussed anywhere on the net welcome.

544 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:14:08am

re: #511 FrogMarch

Bureaucrats and legislators with too much time of their hands?

Are they afraid that the idiot Dems will stab themselves?

545 Bobblehead  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:14:24am

re: #536 midwestgak

OT Just realized I lost my ATM card. Checked my balance via telephone. Someone is using it as a debit card (which I never do) and have accessed about $100 since 8/25. Going to the bank when it opens at 8:30a.m. to stop the bleeding. Will canceling the ATM card be enough?


As a worker bee in the financial industry I would advise you to
change your checking account #

546 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:14:43am

re: #540 doriangrey

Cheers, mate.

547 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:15:20am

re: #517 laZardo

re: #527 scottishbuzzsaw

re: #529 CIA Reject

re: #530 Typicalwhitey
and
re: #531 irish rose
I usually don't do a "group" type of post, but I are worn out and just wanted to thank each of you for the kind words and good wishes. I AM on the mend (he chants, over and over, as if it were a Mantra) but the Pain is worse than before I had the tooth taken out. However, if I get doped up with the proper dosage and timing of all my pills it's not too bad - but if I shouledaml;pyue;th! and tgaen3! y'all know that I'm feeling little pain at all.
LOL! (ouch!).

548 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:15:39am

re: #536 midwestgak

OT Just realized I lost my ATM card. Checked my balance via telephone. Someone is using it as a debit card (which I never do) and have accessed about $100 since 8/25. Going to the bank when it opens at 8:30a.m. to stop the bleeding. Will canceling the ATM card be enough?

It should be enough. Most banks have either a $0 or $50 limit on liability. If they're using it as a debit card, that means they have to have a PIN.

549 jorline  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:15:48am

re: #512 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a warmish (70 degrees going up to 82 degrees, humid with heavy rains predicted) overcast Charlotte!

Hope all y'all are doing well. They extracted one tooth, put some stitches in my jaw and I HURT even though they gave me Demerol to go with my morphine and other pain meds.
And I think I've pretty much stopped bleeding.
Other than that, I'm doing ok and I appreciate the kind e-mails that I received from some of y'all very much!

He's Alive!

Good to see you RW. I told several people last night that I wouldn't be surprised to see you in the morning.
I read your intro...sounds like everything went well and they only had to pull one tooth...great news.

550 CIA Reject  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:16:07am

re: #542 Slumbering Behemoth

Fire causes missile explosions in Ukraine

Gee, I was wondering what the Spetsnaz had been doing with themselves these days...

551 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:16:15am

re: #547 realwest

{realwest}

552 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:16:41am

re: #547 realwest

re: #527 scottishbuzzsaw

re: #529 CIA Reject

re: #530 Typicalwhitey
and
re: #531 irish rose
I usually don't do a "group" type of post, but I are worn out and just wanted to thank each of you for the kind words and good wishes. I AM on the mend (he chants, over and over, as if it were a Mantra) but the Pain is worse than before I had the tooth taken out. However, if I get doped up with the proper dosage and timing of all my pills it's not too bad - but if I shouledaml;pyue;th! and tgaen3! y'all know that I'm feeling little pain at all.
LOL! (ouch!).

In the words of Philip Fry...

553 3 wood  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:16:58am

re: #534 realwest

Hi real.

Glad to know you are up and around.

Just sent you an email.

Later.

554 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:18:29am

re: #536 midwestgak
Should be - don't see why you couldn't have blocked it over the phone and how did whomever stole your card get you PIN number or do you not need one for debit cards?

555 tfc3rid  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:19:25am

re: #473 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' Sunshine! Feeling pessimistic are we?

Of course... Do you see the moron who come out at this stupid convention... The insanity is that they really believe in Marxism...

556 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:19:53am

re: #537 doriangrey
Tomorrow? Well I wish you the best my friend, but don't get anticipatory pain - they'll be enough of the real thing after it's pulled - enjoy today!

557 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:20:05am

re: #545 Bobblehead

As a worker bee in the financial industry I would advise you to
change your checking account #

I would agree with that.

558 lifeofthemind  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:21:10am

re: #534 realwest

Hi dorian - thanks, I'm pretty wore out here, which is why I put all the info in that one post! Lemme tell ya, growing older is not, NOT for wussies.
Say...........don't you have an appointment with the Dentist today?!

Welcome back, hope you get some rest.

559 lifeofthemind  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:21:51am

re: #536 midwestgak

OT Just realized I lost my ATM card. Checked my balance via telephone. Someone is using it as a debit card (which I never do) and have accessed about $100 since 8/25. Going to the bank when it opens at 8:30a.m. to stop the bleeding. Will canceling the ATM card be enough?


Change your account immediately.

560 irish rose  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:22:04am

I had a tooth pulled about ten years ago, second molar from the back, and never had a bridge or implant put it. My poor tongue is constantly getting caught in the gap, when I bite down.

Man, I hate that.

561 midwestgak  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:22:06am

re: #554 realwest

I don't know how it's being done. If I have a PIN I don't even know what it is.

The bank isn't open yet. I'll call at 8:30 a.m. and ask that the card be canceled. Thanks

562 Bobblehead  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:22:40am

re: #548 Ward Cleaver

It should be enough. Most banks have either a $0 or $50 limit on liability. If they're using it as a debit card, that means they have to have a PIN.

If the card is being used on line or at a gas pump no PIN is necessary, or if credit rather than debit is chosen on some card readers.

563 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:23:09am

re: #542 Slumbering Behemoth Hey there SB - story reads as if this was yet another misleading AP headline - no missiles were mentioned in the story at all, nevermind what AP put in the headline.
Still serious though and thanks for the link!

564 Pullus Iulius  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:23:27am

Realwest- Great to see you back so soon! Makes the day. Easy does it, but do it.

565 irish rose  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:23:46am

re: #561 midwestgak

I don't know how it's being done. If I have a PIN I don't even know what it is.

The bank isn't open yet. I'll call at 8:30 a.m. and ask that the card be canceled. Thanks


Do you bank online?
If so, go online for the number and call customer service. You don't have to wait for the local branch to open.

566 Lively  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:23:58am

re: #556 realwest

Tomorrow? Well I wish you the best my friend, but don't get anticipatory pain - they'll be enough of the real thing after it's pulled - enjoy today!

Good to see you around these parts. :)

567 kansas  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:24:55am

This site is so cool. I had a crown come off last night and I log on and find out it's a dental thread. Go figure. Can't get in till tomorrow, but luckily no pain.

568 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:25:25am

re: #549 jorline
Hey thanks my friend - just hadda get my dose of LGF to feel better! How are you doing? Are the headaches pretty much gone? Eye at least feeling ok?

569 Bobblehead  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:25:44am

re: #557 Ward Cleaver

I would agree with that.

Also put an alert on your credit bureau records. All 3 of the major credit bureaus have 800 numbers you can call to do this.

570 HoosierHoops  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:26:07am

re: #567 kansas

This site is so cool. I had a crown come off last night and I log on and find out it's a dental thread. Go figure. Can't get in till tomorrow, but luckily no pain.


Nice Strat Kansas! Do you play?

571 Lively  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:26:11am

re: #567 kansas

This site is so cool. I had a crown come off last night and I log on and find out it's a dental thread. Go figure. Can't get in till tomorrow, but luckily no pain.

I got a crown this year. They're not cheap.

572 Kenneth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:26:15am

re: #556 realwest

Hey real! Good to see you, I hope you're feeling all right. Did they give you some happy pills to dull the pain? Milkshakes & liquid lunches for you!

573 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:26:42am

re: #553 3 wood
Hey my friend - good to see you out here - will check e-mails soon.

574 alkmyst  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:27:40am

Filesharers don't like Biden, apparently...

check the bottom of this thread.

Maybe should just ask Pelosi.

Heh

575 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:27:59am

re: #550 CIA Reject

Gee, I was wondering what the Spetsnaz had been doing with themselves these days...

Makes ya wonder.

re: #563 realwest

Heh, you don't expect the AP to know the difference between missiles and ammunition, do you? That would be above their pay grade.

576 lawhawk  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:28:06am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that McCain's people have put together a who's who of major American politicians who have found Obama wanting on experience and unqualified to lead.

That includes Obama himself.

Have fun trying to make the experience argument Obama.

You can't. And hope and change will cover only so much. This is why so many of your supporters, when pressed to name a single achievement you've accomplished, can't.

Winning hearts and minds of the Democrats and leftists isn't an accomplishment. It's a popularity contest. The capacity to lead and to make the tough decisions is from sterner stuff than that.

577 kansas  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:28:26am

re: #570 HoosierHoops

Nice Strat Kansas! Do you play?

Trick question. Playing guitar is like playing golf. Easy to play. Difficult to play well. So, yes I play, in the basement. Just got the American Strat a couple weeks ago, gift from my brother. I also have a 72 Les Paul Deluxe.

578 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:28:53am

re: #559 lifeofthemind

Change your account immediately.

midwestgak: lifeofthemind is spot on with that; get off the computer and get to the bank NOW!

579 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:28:54am

re: #555 tfc3rid

Of course... Do you see the moron who come out at this stupid convention... The insanity is that they really believe in Marxism...


I could only watch for a brief time. Yes, they believe that they will be the top dogs in a socialist/Marxist system, untouched by the misery they spread. I hope and pray that the American Idea is still strong enough to repel this menace.

580 Miss Trixie  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:29:04am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning {lizards} &#9836 &#9834

Best wishes and prayers for realwest that he recuperates quickly from another painful ordeal. It's not the same around here without his wit and cheeky comments not to mention his bewhiskered smoochies.

Speaking of cheeky - I howled 'til I cried watching Penn butter Teller's bum.

ROFL!

581 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:29:33am

Pelosi's daughter preparing hit piece on McCain

So it’s not too surprising that she’s getting help at home. Pelosi’s daughter Alexandra, the respected filmmaker of “Journeys with George” is, I am told, preparing a documentary about candidate John McCain.

Fair and balanced? I should think not. Coming out before the election on Nov. 4? I should think so. Is it OK? Why not? All’s fair in politics these days. Right now, the McCain campaign is using unauthorized clips of Hillary Clinton criticizing Barack Obama in their commercials. And so it goes.

It’s not the first time the younger Pelosi has put her film skills to use during an election year. Her “Diary of a Political Tourist” aired on HBO right before the November 2004 vote. No word yet on whether HBO will be airing the McCain movie.

582 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:30:14am

re: #562 Bobblehead

If the card is being used on line or at a gas pump no PIN is necessary, or if credit rather than debit is chosen on some card readers.

You're right.

583 lori lane  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:30:22am

re: #512 realwest

Awwww, hi {realwest}! So good to see you here! Hang tough! Wish we could bring you some cold slushy drinks!

584 kansas  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:30:35am

re: #571 Lively

I got a crown this year. They're not cheap.

This one was 800 bucks several years ago. My wife just got one from our new dentist who has a device that machined her crown right in his office. Pretty slick. It was new so he only charged her 1/2 for practice. I hope he still is practicing with it.

585 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:30:45am

re: #580 Miss Trixie

Just look upthread...realwest is here for his smoochies! But gently!

586 Miss Trixie  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:31:03am

re: #512 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a warmish (70 degrees going up to 82 degrees, humid with heavy rains predicted) overcast Charlotte!

Hope all y'all are doing well. They extracted one tooth, put some stitches in my jaw and I HURT even though they gave me Demerol to go with my morphine and other pain meds.
And I think I've pretty much stopped bleeding.
Other than that, I'm doing ok and I appreciate the kind e-mails that I received from some of y'all very much!

Wonderful! *smoochie*

587 Kenneth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:31:09am

Coalition forces capture senior Special Groups leader at BIAP

BAGHDAD – Coalition forces captured a suspected senior Special Groups leader Wednesday morning during an operation at Baghdad International Airport.

Intelligence sources report that the captured man is part of the most senior social and operational circles of Special Groups. Most notably, he is believed to be responsible for the planning of the June 24, 2008 bombing of the Sadr City District Advisory Council meeting, where six Iraqis, two U.S. State Department employees and two U.S. service members were killed. Ten other Iraqis were wounded in the blast. The man has been known to travel in and out of Iraq to neighboring nations including Iran and Lebanon, where it is believed he meets and helps run the Iranian-backed Special Groups in Iraq.

Just remember, Obama assures us Iran is "tiny" and wouldn't dare try anything against the US. Is he ignorant, stupid or lying?

588 kansas  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:31:58am

re: #587 Kenneth

Coalition forces capture senior Special Groups leader at BIAP


Just remember, Obama assures us Iran is "tiny" and wouldn't dare try anything against the US. Is he ignorant, stupid or lying?

Yes, he is.

589 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:32:08am

re: #560 irish rose Hey Rose - I have one word for you: AGE. As you get more mature (ahem) the pain from dental work gets increasingly worse; if you can, get an implant or bridge as soon as you can cause the teeth on either side will - sooner or later - start to lean to that opening.
Bummer about your tongue, too.

590 FrogMarch  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:32:13am

This is everywhere - a little poetic justice for the left-wingers who run MSNBC..
Blow-up already! - and take Olberdouche with you on your way to discarded and meaningless media network joke-land.


One can only be considered biased if you're a republican. Liberals are holy and precious and they don't have to be subjected to such standards.

591 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:32:24am

re: #576 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that McCain's people have put together a who's who of major American politicians who have found Obama wanting on experience and unqualified to lead.

That includes Obama himself.

Have fun trying to make the experience argument Obama.

You can't. And hope and change will cover only so much. This is why so many of your supporters, when pressed to name a single achievement you've accomplished, can't.

Winning hearts and minds of the Democrats and leftists isn't an accomplishment. It's a popularity contest. The capacity to lead and to make the tough decisions is from sterner stuff than that.

Will the McCain campaign be able to keep up this stream of ads once they have to switch to using Federal campaign funds?

592 jorline  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:32:44am

re: #568 realwest

Hey thanks my friend - just hadda get my dose of LGF to feel better! How are you doing? Are the headaches pretty much gone? Eye at least feeling ok?

LGF will be good for your mending precess.

Just remember. post...nap...post...nap...

I'm fine, back on the eye meds with no problems. I'm trying to get my appointment booked with the arthritis doctor at this time. The pain in the joints is better today. I'm looking forward to treating this problem so I can move on to the next pain...LOL Like you said earlier, getting older isn't much fun.

593 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:33:00am

re: #587 Kenneth

Coalition forces capture senior Special Groups leader at BIAP

Just remember, Obama assures us Iran is "tiny" and wouldn't dare try anything against the US. Is he ignorant, stupid or lying?

All three! Trifecta!

594 quickjustice  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:33:00am

re: #508 vxbush

re: #528 laZardo

Great point. The Democratic Party doesn't have a democratic process for choosing its delegates to its presidential nominating conventions. "Democratic" means rule by majority vote. Instead, it has a "super-delegate" and hybrid caucus/primary system where the super-delegates can trump the will of the elected majority. Obama beat Hillary by outmaneuvering her in the party caucuses, which are not democratic elections.

Hillary actually received more primary votes. Primaries are democratic elections. If the party had followed democratic principles, and had stuck with winner-take-all, she'd be the nominee.

Conventions are supposed to follow parliamentary law and procedure. (Roberts Rules of Order and Sturgis are the best known versions of this.) Once again, that means rule by majority vote. (This assumes that the credentialed delegates have been democratically elected, a real question in this case.)

With respect to election by "acclamation", such as we saw Hillary perform last night, the technical name for that under parliamentary law is "General consent" or "unanimous consent". Sturgis (the parliamentary authority) says, "General consent is a way of saving time by avoiding votes on routine or noncontroversial matters. It can be used only when there is unanimous agreement, and is sometimes referred to as "unanimous consent". When it is used, the chair always must ask whether there is any objection; if there is, a formal vote must be taken."

Dies anyone really believe that Obama's nomination was "routine" or "noncontroversial"? I'd say that parliamentary law was again flouted by the Democratic Party last night in the cause of expediency.

595 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:33:37am

re: #561 midwestgak
Yeah, call, but if you can, you'd be best off by going to the bank and changing account numbers as some smart lizard suggested above.

596 lori lane  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:33:53am

re: #525 Typicalwhitey

Morning Laugh!

omg. thank you for this. love it!

597 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:34:54am

re: #564 Pullus Iulius
Thank you very kindly. How are you doing today?

598 Miss Trixie  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:35:30am

re: #585 scottishbuzzsaw

Just look upthread...realwest is here for his smoochies! But gently!

Thanks, luv. :D Slow on the uptake this morning but I'm pleased as punch that realwest is here. :D

599 FrogMarch  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:35:41am

re: #544 Ward Cleaver

Are they afraid that the idiot Dems will stab themselves?

It's a crack down on Big Food. No parties with Big Food!
But the parties for the elite insiders, lobbyists, big corporate sponsors, and celebrities with the correct ideology still go on. with or without forks!

600 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:35:42am

re: #566 Lively Thanks!

601 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:36:32am

re: #576 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that McCain's people have put together a who's who of major American politicians who have found Obama wanting on experience and unqualified to lead.

That includes Obama himself.

Have fun trying to make the experience argument Obama.

You can't. And hope and change will cover only so much. This is why so many of your supporters, when pressed to name a single achievement you've accomplished, can't.

Winning hearts and minds of the Democrats and leftists isn't an accomplishment. It's a popularity contest. The capacity to lead and to make the tough decisions is from sterner stuff than that.

Note the censored Al-J logo on the Pakistan broadcasts.

602 SDC  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:36:53am

What is it with the Democrats and the Undead? If it's not that ghoul Carville creeping me out like a live-action figure of the Grinch, it's that gargoyle Schumer perched on Clinton's shoulder while she goes through the motions of handing BHO his "victory".

603 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:37:18am

re: #567 kansas This was a dental thread last night?! Hey, seriously, get that crown fixed asap - been there, didn't do that fast enough = another tooth I hadda have pulled, cause without the crown part of tooth cracked.

604 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:37:28am

re: #590 FrogMarch

This is everywhere - a little poetic justice for the left-wingers who run MSNBC..
Blow-up already! - and take Olberdouche with you on your way to discarded and meaningless media network joke-land.


One
can only be considered biased if you're a republican. Liberals are holy
and precious and they don't have to be subjected to such standards.

From the article:

That night, Scarborough told NPR that he “get[s] frustrated by people who have an obvious partisan bias that don't proclaim that bias.”

I'm sure the irony was lost on NPR.

605 kansas  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:38:16am

re: #595 realwest

When I had my tooth problem several years ago that resulted in this crown I have which fell off last night, probably because I was clenching trying to watch the Dems, the terrible pain was helped, in addition to mucho drugs, by pressure, a pillow against my jaw, and sound machine when I napped, apparently to distract my brain from the throbbing.

606 HoosierHoops  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:38:51am

Good Morning Jorline..how is the weather down your way?

607 Irene NYC  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:38:51am

Good morning, real! Glad to see you back in fine form. Hope you're feeling okay.

608 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:38:54am

re: #572 Kenneth
Morning Kenneth - yeah, please see my #512!

609 Pullus Iulius  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:39:05am

re: #597 realwest

We're working on it. First rain in a month, which makes me happy and my tomatoes happier. We'd all be happiest if some of this blessing worked its way over to Denver by tonight. Just sayin'.

610 kansas  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:40:02am

re: #603 realwest

Thanks. Got an appointment tomorrow morning, soonest I could get. My guy is out of town till next week, naturally, and I am seeing his partner.

611 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:42:20am

re: #580 Miss Trixie
HEY THERE YOU {Miss Trixie} what's with this "cheeky comments not to mention his bewhiskered smoochies."
*smoooooch* - now that WAS a bewiskered smooch but I normally shave every day (almost) gorgeous!
How are you today?

612 OldLineTexan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:42:47am

Just remember, Nancy Pelosi claimed that offshore drilling would only reduce "the price at the pump" by 2 cents over ten years.

REP. PELOSI: Well, the fact of the matter is--and the president knows this--is that if you drill offshore today, you won't have any impact at the price at the pump for 10 years, and then, it's 2 cents.

Also, Nancy has ruled that natural gas is not a fossil fuel:

MR. BROKAW: Well, I think most people understand that, but at the same time, if we work our way off carbon-based fuels, in the meantime, this is not going to happen overnight.

REP. PELOSI: No, it isn't, but you could--again, you could reduce the price at the pump immediately with...(unintelligible). You can have a transition with natural gas. You can have a transition with natural gas. That, that is cheap, abundant and clean compared to fossil fuels. So, so there is a way to transition this instead of doing more of the same. The Bush administration, two oil men in the White House, they want us to believe that the status quo is what we should do and more of it--and more of it, when it will just only keep us in the same place that we are now.

So while you see your gas prices jump back up BECAUSE there is a hurricane in the GULF OF MEXICO which is where most of the OFFSHORE DRILLING is, be comforted that the price increase must Pelosi-logically be only two cents over ten years.

Also, be grateful that GREAT MINDS such as these have their hands on the US TREASURY.

Link for quoted material, "Meet the Press", August 24, 2008

613 Lively  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:43:52am

re: #585 scottishbuzzsaw

Just look upthread...realwest is here for his smoochies! But gently!


This song goes out to Realwest in NC. One of my favorite songs.

Eagles - Seven Bridges Road

614 FrogMarch  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:44:00am

re: #608 realwest

Morning Kenneth - yeah, please see my #512!

Hope you are feeling better today! If you are up and posting at LGF - you must be. :-)

615 Golem Akbar  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:44:51am

Top o' the marnin' Lizards. [and the rest of the day]
Listening to the democrats last night, you'd think the whole convention was scripted. Amazing what spontaneous "joy to the Obama" can do. (oh yeah: ///)

616 The Other Les  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:45:04am

re: #231 kuffar

We can all blame Jeri Ryan for giving Barack his senate seat.

We can blame the Illinois Republicans for nominating that dumshiesse of an ex-husband for the office. Dumbf***s.

617 jorline  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:45:36am

re: #606 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Jorline..how is the weather down your way?

Hey HH...lots of sun and the beach is calm. We're watching Gustav closely, you never know where these storms will go. I noticed it took a jog to the south last night which may be enough to steer it west of N.O., but bad news for Houston.

If N.O. takes another hit it will be time to relocate the city 200 miles inland.

618 OldLineTexan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:45:40am

re: #615 Golem Akbar

Top o' the marnin' Lizards. [and the rest of the day]
Listening to the democrats last night, you'd think the whole convention was scripted. Amazing what spontaneous "joy to the Obama" can do. (oh yeah: ///)

I have been out on the streets, looking for the bread lines and soup kitchens. I hear from Denver that the United States is just about finished.

619 kansas  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:45:57am

< re: #612 OldLineTexan

You know, what's really remarkable is that with idiots like Pelosi in charge, is that the country just doesn't fold. The list of damages done by their passage of idiotic laws would be long starting with the tax code changes that resulted in the Savings and Loan Debacle and the Bankruptcy Bill that everyone with any sense knew would negatively impact the economy eventually.

620 Kenneth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:46:13am

re: #593 Ward Cleaver

Obama is not stupid, he can read the facts as well as anybody, so he's not ignorant. The only possibility is he is lying about what he knows. Obama is ideologically motivated to "see the world as it should be".

621 vxbush  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:46:25am

re: #594 quickjustice

re: #528 laZardo

Great point. The Democratic Party doesn't have a democratic process for choosing its delegates to its presidential nominating conventions. "Democratic" means rule by majority vote. Instead, it has a "super-delegate" and hybrid caucus/primary system where the super-delegates can trump the will of the elected majority. Obama beat Hillary by outmaneuvering her in the party caucuses, which are not democratic elections.

Hillary actually received more primary votes. Primaries are democratic elections. If the party had followed democratic principles, and had stuck with winner-take-all, she'd be the nominee.

Conventions are supposed to follow parliamentary law and procedure. (Roberts Rules of Order and Sturgis are the best known versions of this.) Once again, that means rule by majority vote. (This assumes that the credentialed delegates have been democratically elected, a real question in this case.)

With respect to election by "acclamation", such as we saw Hillary perform last night, the technical name for that under parliamentary law is "General consent" or "unanimous consent". Sturgis (the parliamentary authority) says, "General consent is a way of saving time by avoiding votes on routine or noncontroversial matters. It can be used only when there is unanimous agreement, and is sometimes referred to as "unanimous consent". When it is used, the chair always must ask whether there is any objection; if there is, a formal vote must be taken."

Dies anyone really believe that Obama's nomination was "routine" or "noncontroversial"? I'd say that parliamentary law was again flouted by the Democratic Party last night in the cause of expediency.

Thank you for that information. That helps. Now, do you know off hand, if a unanimous consent vote has ever been done before in a convention vote?

622 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:47:11am

re: #621 vxbush

Not from my POV. Then again - and to be quite honest - the DNC '08 was the first convention I really actually paid attention to. =_=

623 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:47:12am

re: #621 vxbush

Thank you for that information. That helps. Now, do you know off hand, if a unanimous consent vote has ever been done before in a convention vote?

LBJ in 1964 and FDR in 1932.

624 Golem Akbar  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:47:36am

The front page of my newspaper this morning shows such an adoring picture of the Obamessiah. Do you think they're a little...prejudiced? /No, no way.

625 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:47:50am
626 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:48:19am

re: #613 Lively

This song goes out to Realwest in NC. One of my favorite songs.

Eagles - Seven Bridges Road


Nice...

627 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:49:25am

re: #607 Irene NYC
Hi Irene, please see #512 for how I"m doing. I HURT.
Hope you're doing well.

628 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:49:35am

These are hilarious: MSNBC is completely melting down. Here's a clip where Joe Scarbrough goes into a long rant against David Shuster, apparently while on air.

In this one, Chris Matthews is talking about what an historic moment it is, that Barack Obama has become "the first African-American ever" to be nominated by a by a major political party in "just about any major country".

In how many countries in the world can African-Americans run for President?

629 Miss Trixie  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:50:05am

re: #611 realwest

HEY THERE YOU {Miss Trixie} what's with this "cheeky comments not to mention his bewhiskered smoochies."
*smoooooch* - now that WAS a bewiskered smooch but I normally shave every day (almost) gorgeous!
How are you today?

Much better now that I know you're ok. *gentle hug*

:)

630 Kenneth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:50:23am

Here's a well produced video about the real history of the "surge". The various roots, the people responsible, the long path to fruition and eventual victory. Cut's through the BS. Watch both parts.

631 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:50:34am

re: #627 realwest

Hi Irene, please see #512 for how I"m doing. I HURT.
Hope you're doing well.

Hey, how are you feeling?

632 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:50:35am

re: #605 kansas
Huh, well don't have a sound machine, but......!

How was there a late night dental thread last night?!

633 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:50:39am

Looks like Barry learned that real monuments are for real personalities.

/after he left Berlin, anyway...

634 OldLineTexan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:50:55am

re: #625 buzzsawmonkey

The Obama fellation on PBS last night and NPR, unsurprising as it was, was nonetheless sickening.

Much is being made of the fact that this is the 45th anniversary of King's "I have a dream" speech, and that it is also of course the day that Obama accepts the nomination.

It occurs to me that the Greek Temple upon which he will do this may be intended as a mock-up of the Lincoln Memorial, before which King gave that famous speech.

BTW, last night on Charlie Rose one of the Democrats bombinating about the anniversary and the glories of Barack said that it was "the 40th" anniversary of the King speech. King was, of course, killed in the spring of 1968. Hilarious to see this guy trying to make political points over something that he didn't even know the date of.

It's OK, MLK III was on the air plugging for Barack. IOW, the King family is on board with the debacle.

And since this country has fallen into the European trap of worshipping bloodlines (Kennedy, King, Bush (some cases, LOL), Rockefeller), I guess we will get what we deserve. A coronation instead of an election, and a messiah instead of a public servant.

635 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:51:26am

re: #628 reine.de.tout

In how many countries in the world can African-Americans run for President?

Nice! That made me laugh.

636 OldLineTexan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:52:04am

re: #635 Slumbering Behemoth

Nice! That made me laugh.

Well-played, it was.

637 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:52:57am

Beta version of the Golden versus Al-Jazeera photo retrospect.

Let me know if you have any trouble with the page. I'm not really a web page designer, so I need input. The pics are a bit large, so I'm curious if anyone has trouble loading the page.

Number 5 needs input.

[Link: home.comcast.net...]

638 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:53:02am

re: #628 reine.de.tout

In how many countries in the world can African-Americans run for President?

Two: the United Snakes of Amerikkka and New Afrika
/Marvin Moonbat

639 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:54:30am
640 Lively  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:54:40am

Gotta get to work. Later Lizards!

641 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:54:52am

re: #613 Lively
Oh, thanks for that one Lively - I like that too!
If you really like tight harmonies, may I suggest to you
[Link: www.imeem.com...]
iA078isD/crosby_stills_nash_helplessly_hoping/

642 midwestgak  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:55:00am

re: #569 Bobblehead

Also put an alert on your credit bureau records. All 3 of the major credit bureaus have 800 numbers you can call to do this.

Okay. The card is blocked. I'll be reimbursed the amount that was taken without unauthorization. (I actually went to the bank branch and signed an Affidavit of Unauthorized Automated Clearing House (ACH) Debit form.)

I use Life Lock. Is this sufficient?

643 Lively  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:56:58am

re: #641 realwest

:)

644 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:57:01am

re: #630 Kenneth

Amazing how the internet is also able to portray the ordinary soldier's point of view. We've definitely advanced from the Vietnam era...

645 Kenneth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:57:22am

Signs of Expanding Russian Ambitions

Russia’s ambassador to Moldova, meanwhile, said the country’s leaders should be wary of what happened in Georgia and avoid a “bloody and catastrophic trend of events” in the separatist, pro-Russia region of Trans-Dniester. The ambassador, Valeri Kuzmin, said Russia recognized the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia because of “Georgia’s aggression against South Ossetia.”

Putin is apparently not as smart as some have credited him, because expansion of threatening rhetoric right now is a losing hand for Russia.

646 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:57:27am

re: #641 realwest
Gack! WTF is going on here: I can't get Immem tunes to load without going outside Charles margins:
[Link: www.imeem.com...]
crosby_stills_nash_helplessly_hoping/

647 lawhawk  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:57:42am

re: #591 Ward Cleaver

I don't see why not. The cost to produce the web stuff isn't that high, and if you find ads that work, you'll be able to use them down the road. Low cost - high reward.

648 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:58:17am

re: #646 realwest
AH, FINALLY!

649 Spirit93  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:58:57am

re: #637 Walter L. Newton

Excellent job Walter!

Thank you.

650 Bobblehead  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:59:10am

re: #642 midwestgak

Okay. The card is blocked. I'll be reimbursed the amount that was taken without unauthorization. (I actually went to the bank branch and signed an Affidavit of Unauthorized Automated Clearing House (ACH) Debit form.)

I use Life Lock. Is this sufficient?

I would think that is sufficient. Whoever picked up your card is an amateur probably a kid. A professional would have drained your checking account lickity split and then dumped the card.

651 Spirit93  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:59:48am

re: #637 Walter L. Newton

PS: loaded fine, no problem

652 Ojoe  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 6:59:55am

re: #634 OldLineTexan

It's OK, MLK III was on the air plugging for Barack. IOW, the King family is on board with the debacle.

Ironic as MLK II was a Republican, a fact I learned here on LGF from a photo of a bill board that the black Republicans put up in Denver.

That's a fact I will use on the local moonbats, as opportunity presents. I'll let you all know the response.

....

The Constitution prohibits royalty & for good reason. Affirmative action violates this because it is not less than unmerited advantage conferred by accident of birth. You can see its corrosive effect on society at large.


And here's this mornings light on the San Gabriel Mountains. (Towercam)

653 Kenneth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:00:37am

re: #644 laZardo

What I find amazing is history is being written by the same people who are making the history. Soldiers & officers are telling it as it is, and a handful honest reporters like Yon, Totten & others, and an ad-hoc network of bloggers are reporting it and getting the word out. The official historians of academia are out of the loop, thank G-d!.

654 Maximu§  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:00:53am

buzzsawmonkey

The Obama fellation on PBS last night and NPR, unsurprising as it was, was nonetheless sickening.

If you walked through the PBS employee parking lot, I'm sure almost all the cars are Hybred's and almost all have an Obama 08 sticker on them.

655 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:01:33am
656 midwestgak  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:01:44am

re: #650 Bobblehead

I would think that is sufficient. Whoever picked up your card is an amateur probably a kid. A professional would have drained your checking account lickity split and then dumped the card.


I appreciate all of your input. Have a great day!

657 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:01:48am

re: #653 Kenneth

It's still the "officials" writing the "official" history books though. I just hope that when I get to your guys' age they won't be regarded as "revisionists."

/if you know what I mean...

658 Bubblehead II  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:01:52am

re: #637 Walter L. Newton

Morning all. Long time no post.

Walter, if you are talking about the biker truce, how about the enemy of my enemy is my friend?

659 The Other Les  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:02:11am

re: #336 yma o hyd

Far left and far right meeting each other, in images which are irrefutable. Thank you for the proof of this, dems!


Actually, the NSDAP was a Leftist party. They were only "smeared" as being on the Right by the Soviets and their Monicas fellow travellers.

The NSDAP and the CPSU were two Leftist gangs competing for turf, resources, and laborers. If anything, the Nazi-Soviet War of 1941-1945 can be characterized as a drive-by shooting carried out on an industrial scale.

660 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:02:15am

Well all y'all I gotta go NOW - forgot how I can wind up grinding my teeth - NOT A GOOD THING TODAY! - and hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

661 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:03:11am
662 Ojoe  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:03:42am

re: #641 realwest

'Mornin' realwest.

Have you heard from Miguel (Down In Mexico) ?

& I knew a bulldog named Demerol, by its owner, an emergency room RN.

663 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:04:33am

re: #659 The Other Les

Actually, the NSDAP was a Leftist party. They were only "smeared" as being on the Right by the Soviets and their Monicas fellow travellers.

The
NSDAP and the CPSU were two Leftist gangs competing for turf,
resources, and laborers. If anything, the Nazi-Soviet War of 1941-1945
can be characterized as a drive-by shooting carried out on an
industrial scale.

As P.J. O'Rourke once said, the worship of collective power always results in some kind of drive-by shooting.

664 The Other Les  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:04:44am

re: #384 TheMatrix31

Anyone think it's possible that Invesco doesn't fill to capacity for the speech tomorrow? I would love for only 20, 25,000 to show up when 70 was slated. Or is that just wishful thinking?

They will bus in the idiots.

665 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:05:08am

re: #642 midwestgak

Okay. The card is blocked. I'll be reimbursed the amount that was taken without unauthorization. (I actually went to the bank branch and signed an Affidavit of Unauthorized Automated Clearing House (ACH) Debit form.)

I use Life Lock. Is this sufficient?

It should be, but did you know that some guy here in Dallas actually stole the SSN of the founder of LifeLock (the SSN that the guy gives out in the ads)? He went to jail.

666 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:05:11am

re: #625 buzzsawmonkey

It occurs to me that the Greek Temple upon which he will do this may be intended as a mock-up of the Lincoln Memorial, before which King gave that famous speech.

IMO, it is every bit as presumptuous for that pompous ass Obama to assume himself to be MLK as it does for him to assume he is Zeus.

667 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:05:15am

re: #659 The Other Les

"Vest-Side Prussian Blau, mutterficker!"

668 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:06:27am

I wonder if Obama will rewrite any of his speech tonight in light of the fact that the economy grew over 3% last quarter.

/not holding my breath

670 The Other Les  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:06:57am

re: #386 BlueCanuck

Not just for Israeli business folk. But if they have a base in the Americas, it makes it easier to travel across the Caribbean to cause trouble here.

If they have a base in Caribbean then that gives us the Casus Belli to go in and arrange a long overdue act of tyrannocide.

671 midwestgak  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:08:40am

re: #665 Ward Cleaver

It should be, but did you know that some guy here in Dallas actually stole the SSN of the founder of LifeLock (the SSN that the guy gives out in the ads)? He went to jail.

Didn't hear that. Sweeeeeet.

672 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:08:59am
673 FrogMarch  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:09:28am
674 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:10:43am
675 talon_262  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:10:50am

re: #666 karmic_inquisitor

IMO, it is every bit as presumptuous for that pompous ass Obama to assume himself to be MLK as it does for him to assume he is Zeus.

Obama has been presumptuous, arrogant and haughty up till this point....what else should we expect from him, his campaign, and the DNC?

676 Bobblehead  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:11:30am

My new election season avatar captures, I think, the panic we all feel at the thought of an Obama presidency. Or maybe a McCain/Lieberman ticket.

677 FrogMarch  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:12:54am

re: #637 Walter L. Newton

Great photos - nicely done. You must have stayed up late!

678 quickjustice  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:13:04am

re: #623 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Good catch. In the case of LBJ, he was an unopposed sitting president. It wouldn't surprise me if the GOP has done the same thing (unanimous consent) with an unopposed incumbent, although the roll call vote is more dramatic, and makes for better TV.

679 lifeofthemind  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:13:14am

re: #587 Kenneth

Coalition forces capture senior Special Groups leader at BIAP


Just remember, Obama assures us Iran is "tiny" and wouldn't dare try anything against the US. Is he ignorant, stupid or lying?

Yes Yes Yes

"...I was a Flower of the mountain yes when I put the rose in my hair like the Andalusian girls used or shall I wear a red yes and how he kissed me under the Moorish wall and I thought well as well him as another and then I asked him with my eyes to ask again yes and then he asked me would I yes to say yes my mountain flower and first I put my arms around him yes and drew him down to me so he could feel my breasts all perfume yes and his heart was going like mad and yes I said yes I will Yes. "

/the Democrats post Vietnam response to fascistic threats.

680 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:13:15am

re: #669 FrogMarch

Obama and his handlers act like Castro and try to shut off criticism.

And if Obama gets elected, they'll write this stuff into law.

681 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:13:34am

re: #661 buzzsawmonkey

Nazis/Communists

Crips/Bloods

Obamatons/Moonies

682 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:13:49am

re: #676 Bobblehead

My new election season avatar captures, I think, the panic we all feel at the thought of an Obama presidency. Or maybe a McCain/Lieberman ticket.

Nice! And you're right, it captures the panic.

Myself, this is the one that does it for me.

683 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:13:55am

re: #676 Bobblehead

My new election season avatar captures, I think, the panic we all feel at the thought of an Obama presidency. Or maybe a McCain/Lieberman ticket.

I see "WTF?!" written all over his face! LOL!

684 Bobblehead  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:14:19am

Oops forgot to refresh.

685 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:14:28am

re: #682 reine.de.tout

Nice! And you're right, it captures the panic.

Myself, this is the one that does it for me.

The Scream! Perfect!

686 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:15:12am

re: #672 buzzsawmonkey


Many of us here have commented from early on to the effect that Obama's candidacy does not signal an end to race hustling, but merely a new era of race hustling being done with a Harvard accent, on a grander scale. Tonight Obama will out-Jackson Jackson.

From Hustle to Grand Larceny.

687 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:16:03am
688 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:17:27am

Is anyone else having trouble with "new comments" just checking, checking, checking, and not ever moving along and providing the new comments? I keep having to open a new LGF tab for "new comments", and also anytime I "post" a comment. I just get the swirling twirling "checking" notice.

690 Kenneth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:18:33am

re: #657 laZardo

Yes, the academic histories are being written, but what is remarkable is how obviously & absurdly wrong these histories are. I'll give you two examples:

No End in Sight: Iraq's Descent into Chaos

by Charles Ferguson ... independent film maker hires a Marxist reporter, Nils Rosen, to guide him around Iraq. This book is a compilation of interviews Ferguson made with various players in Iraq & the US. There is some interesting material, but Ferguson only bothers to interview those who present his thesis. Presented as innocent reporting and interviews, the ideological bent is over bearing. Missing is any contrary point of view. Is that documentary or demagoguery? The funniest part is the concluding chapter in which one "expert" after another describe how Iraq is lost, the US can never win & the only choice is to get out fast. Ironically, the film was released & the book published just as the Surge was getting rolling. All the predictions of the "experts" have been definitively refuted by facts.

Muqtada: Muqtada al-Sadr, the Shia Revival, and the Struggle for Iraq
by Patrick Cockburn

Cockburn has a typical British journo's hatred for the US & a nasty anti-Jewish streak, & it shows in the gloating hagiography he paints of al-Sadr. A victim of really bad timing, this book was published the very week the Iraqi gov't launched the Basra operation and crushed the Mahdi Army. Mookie is still hiding his fat ass in Iran.

691 quickjustice  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:18:33am

re: #687 buzzsawmonkey

I've read online that Jackson was nowhere near King at the time of the shooting, and that this all was a fabrication. I'll look for the link.

692 JonathanD  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:18:58am

oops.

the correct link is at

ec-X0omNgcY

693 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:19:16am

re: #675 talon_262

Obama has been presumptuous, arrogant and haughty up till this point....what else should we expect from him, his campaign, and the DNC?

At the moment, Democrats are abuzz about the weather. They are actually hopeful that Gustav plows into New Orleans so that voters can relive Katrina.

They root for our enemies. They root for recessions. They root for hurricanes.

How else can they get to power?

694 HoosierHoops  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:19:44am

re: #688 reine.de.tout

Is anyone else having trouble with "new comments" just checking, checking, checking, and not ever moving along and providing the new comments? I keep having to open a new LGF tab for "new comments", and also anytime I "post" a comment. I just get the swirling twirling "checking" notice.


Good morning reine {reine}
I think Charles forgot to get breakfast for the hamsters..
They're probably just pissed off and hungry.

695 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:19:50am

re: #676 Bobblehead

My new election season avatar captures, I think, the panic we all feel at the thought of an Obama presidency. Or maybe a McCain/Lieberman ticket.

He needs a haircut.

696 Bobblehead  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:19:55am

re: #688 reine.de.tout

Is anyone else having trouble with "new comments" just checking, checking, checking, and not ever moving along and providing the new comments? I keep having to open a new LGF tab for "new comments", and also anytime I "post" a comment. I just get the swirling twirling "checking" notice.

Yeah, I had that problem last night. Thought it was just because of the amount of traffic. No problem today.

697 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:20:19am

re: #690 Kenneth

"Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq" is on the bargin table at my local Borders - even at $4.99 hardcover its a rip-off.

698 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:20:36am

re: #694 HoosierHoops

Good morning reine {reine}
I think Charles forgot to get breakfast for the hamsters..
They're probably just pissed off and hungry.

good morning, HH! I've been having this difficulty for a couple of days now. I don't know if it's my computer or LGF.

Hope you're doing well!

699 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:20:53am

re: #688 reine.de.tout

Is anyone else having trouble with "new comments" just checking, checking, checking, and not ever moving along and providing the new comments? I keep having to open a new LGF tab for "new comments", and also anytime I "post" a comment. I just get the swirling twirling "checking" notice.

Yes. It has to do with the length fo the thread, the number of people trying to post and sometimes your own machine. Reboot and if that does not fix it, then it is a product of the number of people on the server/length of thread.

700 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:21:37am
701 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:21:43am

The headline's a hoot.
The article's pedestrian, but link provided anyway.

Obama seeks a personal touch within a huge stadium (AP)

702 Kenneth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:22:00am

re: #697 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Ha! Not worth the price.

703 quickjustice  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:22:12am

re: #687 buzzsawmonkey

Here's the link showing that Jackson lied about his proximity to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. at the time of the shooting:

[Link: www.papillonsartpalace.com...]

704 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:22:24am
705 Occasional Reader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:23:03am

re: #687 buzzsawmonkey

His greatest physical dangers were clogging his nostrils with cocaine and being choked with grant money.

Hey, he's also faced down white mobs!

706 Bobblehead  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:23:40am

re: #695 Ward Cleaver

He needs a haircut.

In his anguish, he has forgotten to get his monthly trim.

707 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:24:23am

re: #690 Kenneth

As we've seen with Vietnam though, it has actually become the established history. In fact, I'll admit right here part of the reason I'm impressed with the US Army's actions in Iraq is because I believe they learned from their mistakes in Vietnam.

708 quickjustice  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:24:36am

re: #700 buzzsawmonkey

I don't think it's a "quibble", but you read the link and decide.

709 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:24:38am

re: #705 Occasional Reader

Hey, he's also faced down white mobs!

The only white mobs Obama has encountered were at family reunions.

710 Occasional Reader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:24:52am

re: #697 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq" is on the bargin table at my local Borders - even at $4.99 hardcover its a rip-off.

And Pelosi's book is propping up the wonky leg on that very same table.

/hat tip for the image: Mark Steyn

711 FrogMarch  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:25:18am

re: #680 Ward Cleaver

And if Obama gets elected, they'll write this stuff into law.


Especially if they gain a majority in congress - and place some nice liberal judges on the supreme court.

712 vxbush  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:26:31am

Okay, gotta go run some errands, so later. And thanks to all for the information. Very helpful, indeed.

713 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:28:45am

re: #662 Ojoe
Hi Ojoe, I'm trying to get off LGF but it's not working, I can't sleep and I have "ordered" Mom to PLEASE take it easy - she worked her butt off for me yesterday, so I'm gonna get drugged up real good and either pass out on the keyboard or something.
Please check your e-mail.

714 Bobblehead  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:29:03am

re: #710 Occasional Reader

And Pelosi's book is propping up the wonky leg on that very same table.

/hat tip for the image: Mark Steyn

LOL!

715 lawhawk  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:30:24am

re: #693 karmic_inquisitor

Speaking of hurricanes, Gustav is being unpredictable again. Not sure where it's going to hit, but the Gulf Coast, pretty much from the Texas/Louisiana border through to the Panhandle ought to keep their eye on the sky - and listen for updates.

716 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:30:38am

re: #713 realwest

I'm just in for a few moments. Heard about the tooth last night. Hope you're do MUCH better REALLY soon.

717 Occasional Reader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:30:43am

re: #703 quickjustice

Here's the link showing that Jackson lied about his proximity to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. at the time of the shooting:

[Link: www.papillonsartpalace.com...]

What Jackson lied about (apparently) was that King "died in my arms". But that's not the same thing as saying he was "nowhere near King" when he died. He was right there.

718 lifeofthemind  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:31:00am

re: #710 Occasional Reader

And Pelosi's book is propping up the wonky leg on that very same table.

/hat tip for the image: Mark Steyn


Haven't heard from Mark Steyn in to long. His commentary on this circus would help.

719 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:31:07am

re: #688 reine.de.tout
Hi reine.de.tout - don't know what the problem might be but I've reported it in case it's something Charles can fix on his end.

720 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:31:19am

re: #716 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'm just in for a few moments. Heard about the tooth last night. Hope you're do MUCH better REALLY soon.

PIMF ... "hope you're DOING"

721 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:31:21am

re: #712 vxbush


Cheers, vx.

722 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:31:39am
723 Occasional Reader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:31:49am

re: #713 realwest

real!

I hope you're feeling better, or at least on your way to feeling better.

724 Occasional Reader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:32:20am

re: #718 lifeofthemind

Haven't heard from Mark Steyn in to long. His commentary on this circus would help.

I'm in serious Steyn withdrawal. I'm jonesin' bad, man.

725 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:32:34am

re: #720 pre-Boomer Marine brat

PIMF ... "hope you're DOING"

Or is it "hope you'll do?" Both very well-wishing. (:

/mmm, grammar deconstructionism.

726 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:33:02am

re: #707 laZardo

As we've seen with Vietnam though, it has actually become the established history. In fact, I'll admit right here part of the reason I'm impressed with the US Army's actions in Iraq is because I believe they learned from their mistakes in Vietnam.

Actually, Vietnam was a debacle caused by civilian leadership (Lyndon Johnson, Congress).....the military was extremely successful there.

727 razorbacker  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:33:44am

I've been watching the DimmiConvention (in small doses, for after all, that is how you build your immunity to poisons) this week and I must say that my admiration for the poor, oppressed Blue Staters has increased by leaps and bounds.

Picture if you will the perseverance needed to soldier on through eight years of utter hell, with black helicopters spiriting away your loved ones nightly, with evile oil critters suctioning your money from your wallet every time you make a purchase, with the price of good weed shooting through the roof, with concentration camps bulging at the seams with brave dissenters.

It's enough to make a strong man weep. Actual tears. And I notice that strong men did weep. Over and over. I'm only sorry that I hadn't the foresight to invest in some kind of eco-friendly tissue makers before the convention.

728 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:34:04am

re: #724 Occasional Reader

I'm in serious Steyn withdrawal. I'm jonesin' bad, man.

Where is he?

729 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:34:25am

re: #707 laZardo
No the only way the US military coulda learned from their mistakes in Vietnam was if they completely ignored Civilian authority, cause it was the civilians who lost Vietnam, not the troops.

730 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:34:29am

re: #725 laZardo

Or is it "hope you'll do?" Both very well-wishing. (:

/mmm, grammar deconstructionism.

(heh, see my PIMF)
It's this damned keyboard, of course!

731 lifeofthemind  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:34:56am

Hope this isn't a real issue. All the threads at the Belmont Club are closed. Usually there is a current thread open. Wretchard's personal page does not come up.

732 Occasional Reader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:35:02am

re: #715 lawhawk

Speaking of hurricanes, Gustav is being unpredictable again.

Global warming! Back before the evil Bush took office, hurricanes were always predictable, and never did any damage! In fact, they gently powered wind turbines and rained gumdrops.

733 Kenneth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:35:37am

A nice essay on the election from Steyn, from June.

734 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:35:57am

re: #724 Occasional Reader

I'm in serious Steyn withdrawal. I'm jonesin' bad, man.

I think he's working on "America Alone: The Musical."
/if only - I mean if "The Fly" is going to be an opera, anything is possible...

735 Occasional Reader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:36:04am

re: #727 razorbacker

And I notice that strong men did weep.

You've seen strong men at the Democratic Convention?!

736 HoosierHoops  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:36:06am

re: #725 laZardo

Or is it "hope you'll do?" Both very well-wishing. (:

/mmm, grammar deconstructionism.


You're just in exam mode...How is the testing going anyhow?

737 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:36:43am

re: #732 Occasional Reader

Global warming! Back before the evil Bush took office, hurricanes were always predictable, and never did any damage! In fact, they gently powered wind turbines and rained gumdrops.

Didn't the word "hurricane" come from the Carib Indians?

738 OldLineTexan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:36:45am

re: #732 Occasional Reader

Global warming! Back before the evil Bush took office, hurricanes were always predictable, and never did any damage! In fact, they gently powered wind turbines and rained gumdrops.

You have been fooled.

Rumsfeld was fired because Katrina did not finish New Orleans. Bush's weather machine is back in action, aiming for the complete and utter annihilation of Ray Nagin's Chocolate City.

739 Bobblehead  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:36:50am

re: #728 scottishbuzzsaw

Where is he?

His website says he is taking a break..He subbed for Rush recently, but since then nothing.

740 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:36:56am

EArlier today I realized what the Greek Temple is all about. Today is the anniversary of MLK's "I have a dream" speech - given on the step of the Lincoln Memorial. (Go look at that Greek Temple again.) So, here's the latest from HotAir -

[Link: hotair.com...]

I noticed earlier that to each side of the main stage there is a "door" with a covering behind the opening. Are we betting on statues of MLK and Lincoln?

741 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:37:07am

re: #723 Occasional Reader Hey O.R. - kindly see my #512 above and since I'm about to take a demoral (as prescribed by doctor) on top of all the other pain meds - mostly morphine - I'm taking, it's likely I'm indeed headed on my way to feeling better! Or passing out which for me is the same thing at this point!
Hope you're doing well my friend.

742 Occasional Reader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:37:24am

re: #728 scottishbuzzsaw

Where is he?

Je ne sais pas. His site just says he's "on hiatus for a while as I catch up with some long-term and far-flung projects".

743 tokyobk  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:37:28am

re: #722 buzzsawmonkey

I'm not saying the information is wrong, but it's not a very convincing-looking website. Looks alone are not everything, of course.

The issue, written about in the 80s by a black woman reporter who Jackson tried to ruin, is that he showed up later with blood on his shirt. The only way he could have gotten that was to dab it on himself.

744 christheprofessor  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:37:40am

re: #735 Occasional Reader

You've seen strong men at the Democratic Convention?!

Hillary was there...

745 lifeofthemind  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:37:41am

re: #728 scottishbuzzsaw

Where is he?

A note to our readers
Sunday, 20 July 2008
SteynOnline is on hiatus for a while as I catch up with some long-term and far-flung projects. But don't worry, we will return.


It has been over a month.

746 razorbacker  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:37:47am

re: #735 Occasional Reader

You've seen strong men at the Democratic Convention?!

Just ask them. Powerful strong. Curiously strong. Just like the breath mints.

747 Kenneth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:37:48am

re: #731 lifeofthemind

Hmmm... very curious. Fernandez has written some fine stuff recently, very critical of Obama & Russia. Either one of those two targets have hackers who would try to shut him down.

748 Occasional Reader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:38:02am

re: #737 MandyManners

Didn't the word "hurricane" come from the Carib Indians?

Yes! Bush stole it from them. Just as he did their land, and oil.

749 Kenneth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:39:11am

re: #732 Occasional Reader

Global warming! Back before the evil Bush took office, hurricanes were always predictable, and never did any damage! In fact, they gently powered wind turbines and rained gumdrops.

Vote or Obama and the hurricanes will once again bring flocks of migratory unicorns to our gentle shores.

751 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:39:47am

re: #736 HoosierHoops

At this point (i.e. this particular trimester) in my major studies, I've only got one "final exam" in the formal sense. Most of the rest are actually preparing final projects in design subjects for submission.

Today's exam was Filipino Language. It's always been a very "sensitive" personal subject because English was my first language despite my heritage (and I never got enough about that in high school from my Filipino classmates) and learning other languages was not my forte.

I got through it though, and I'm a bit prouder for that.

752 Kenneth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:39:48am

re: #748 Occasional Reader

...and their beer!

753 Occasional Reader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:39:53am

re: #741 realwest

You just need to make up a good story now about how you lost that tooth. Something involving ninjas.

754 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:40:10am
755 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:40:29am

re: #737 MandyManners

Didn't the word "hurricane" come from the Carib Indians?

Online Etymology Dictionary
1555, a partially deformed adoptation from Sp. huracan (Gonzalo Fernandez de Oviedo y Valdés, "Historia General y Natural de las Indias," 1547-9), furacan (in the works of Pedro Mártir De Anghiera, chaplain to the court of King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella and historian of Spanish explorations), from an Arawakan (W. Indies) word. In Port., it became furacão. Confusion of initial h- and f- common in Sp. in these years; the conquistador is known in contemporary records as both Hernando and Fernando Cortés. First in Eng. in Richard Eden's "Decades of the New World":

"These tempestes of the ayer (which the Grecians caule Tiphones ...) they caule furacanes."

OED records some 39 different spellings, mostly from the late 16c., including forcane, herrycano, harrycain, hurlecane. Modern form became frequent from 1650, established after 1688. Shakespeare uses hurricano ("King Lear," "Troilus and Cressida"), but in reference to waterspouts.

756 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:40:53am

re: #740 galloping granny

EArlier today I realized what the Greek Temple is all about. Today is the anniversary of MLK's "I have a dream" speech - given on the step of the Lincoln Memorial. (Go look at that Greek Temple again.) So, here's the latest from HotAir -

[Link: hotair.com...]

I noticed earlier that to each side of the main stage there is a "door" with a covering behind the opening. Are we betting on statues of MLK and Lincoln?

Oh, dear me. Is he gonna' pimp Martin Luther King, Jr's memory?

757 quickjustice  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:41:04am

re: #722 buzzsawmonkey

Obviously, the veracity of the source is critical. If Jackson fabricated this story, it taints his subsequent career. The alleged fabrication is what brought him to national prominence. We can search under "Barbara Reynolds" to see if we can find the reporter's original story.

758 OldLineTexan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:41:05am

re: #737 MandyManners

Didn't the word "hurricane" come from the Carib Indians?

Random House says Spanish origin, but adapted from a Taino word.

MSN disctionary:

Tai·no [ tnō ] (plural Tai·no or Tai·nos)
Definition:
1. member of extinct Caribbean people: a member of an extinct Native Central American people who lived on the Caribbean islands of the Greater Antilles and the Bahamas
2. language of Tainos: the Arawak language of the Taino people
[Mid-19th century. < Taino]

So I guess they were Caribs.

Did the Carob Indians give us that fake chocolate? Could there be a Carob City?

/

759 lifeofthemind  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:41:52am

re: #747 Kenneth

Hmmm... very curious. Fernandez has written some fine stuff recently, very critical of Obama & Russia. Either one of those two targets have hackers who would try to shut him down.


A real paranoid would think they are the same thing but Obama is a Soros project and Putin seems to be trying to take another Soros project apart in Georgia.

760 Bobblehead  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:42:12am

re: #756 MandyManners

Oh, dear me. Is he gonna' pimp Martin Luther King, Jr's memory?

Count on it.

761 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:42:17am

re: #752 Kenneth

...and their beer!

Horaay Beer!

762 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:42:17am

re: #758 OldLineTexan

So I guess they were Caribs.

Did the Carob Indians give us that fake chocolate? Could there be a Carob City?

/

No, but there is the Carob Bean sea.

763 OldLineTexan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:42:19am

re: #740 galloping granny

EArlier today I realized what the Greek Temple is all about. Today is the anniversary of MLK's "I have a dream" speech - given on the step of the Lincoln Memorial. (Go look at that Greek Temple again.) So, here's the latest from HotAir -

[Link: hotair.com...]

I noticed earlier that to each side of the main stage there is a "door" with a covering behind the opening. Are we betting on statues of MLK and Lincoln?

At this point, I am half-expecting the returns of Jesus and Mohammed, who will carry the crown to Obama and place it on his head, respectively, Lord of the Rings-style.

764 coz  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:42:31am

Good Morning and Happy Almost-Friday from the Land of Coz!

765 Occasional Reader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:42:39am

re: #755 reine.de.tout

including forcane

Hey! This is a family blog!

766 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:42:45am

re: #704 taxfreekiller

Walter L. Newton

#637

This Rushing guy, former Marine officer, do you know what small town in Texas, I know a Rushing family here in the oil buss. North Texas,
any idea where he came from here in Texas?

Could be the family does not know all about what he is up to, the grand dads just could have an influence on him.

thanks

taxfreekiller

Lewisville Texas, that's about 30 miles north of Dallas.

767 OldLineTexan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:42:58am

re: #756 MandyManners

Oh, dear me. Is he gonna' pimp Martin Luther King, Jr's memory?

MLK III has already signed on for it.

So I say it's a go.

768 coz  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:43:22am

Word of the Day
Thursday August 28, 2008

chthonic THONE-ik, adjective:
Dwelling in or under the earth; also, pertaining to the underworld

769 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:43:28am
770 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:43:29am

re: #707 laZardo

As we've seen with Vietnam though, it has actually become the established history. In fact, I'll admit right here part of the reason I'm impressed with the US Army's actions in Iraq is because I believe they learned from their mistakes in Vietnam.

Interesting, because in the early 80s the "Battlefield 2000" doctrine was developed by officers who were in Vietnam as a way of trying to ensure we would incorporate our lessons from Vietnam. It later became known as "AirLand Battle" and, for a rough comparison, is similar to Blitzkrieg - coordinated air and ground movement where one reinforces success rather than failure and where mobile forces dictate the tempo of the fight.

The whole doctrine got tested in the Gulf War and everyone justifiably felt good about it.

But it wasn't till now that we developed an effective counter-insurgency doctrine for the modern, urban battlefield.

Now force has ever been more capable than the US military is now. It is hardly broken (as the left claims). Tired? Yes. Broken? No.

771 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:43:30am

re: #762 Kosh's Shadow

No, but there is the Carob Bean sea.

I forgot, pirates also liked the beans; we've all heard of the
pirates of the carob bean

772 The Other Les  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:43:39am

re: #661 buzzsawmonkey

Nazis/Communists

Crips/Bloods

You got it.

773 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:43:41am

re: #745 lifeofthemind

I imagine that fighting off the Canadian Human Rights star chamber ate up a lot of Steyn's time & resources.

774 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:43:50am

re: #729 realwest

re: #726 eschew_obfuscation

I still think the "civilian obstruction" from LBJ was paying more attention to Vietnam than the Civil Rights Movement. I get that today that pretty much everyone of legal age is afforded the same opportunities for success, "content of character" and all, but back then a lot of people hardly had those opportunities apart from the armed forces (desegregated by Truman, IIRC). Why they had to focus on Vietnam rather than the domestic scene is still beyond me.

775 Kenneth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:44:11am

re: #750 The Other Les

What great fun! Thanks for posting it... I love this bit:

His prime minister, Sarah Harding, had been the protegee of Conservative Prime Minister Francis... Urquhar

The return of FU! I loved that BBC mini-series. As Picasso said, "Ordinary artists borrow, great artists steal."

776 Macker  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:44:51am

re: #763 OldLineTexan

At this point, I am half-expecting the returns of Jesus and Mohammed, who will carry the crown to Obama and place it on his head, respectively, Lord of the Rings-style.

And Mo would chop it off at the same time!

777 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:45:31am
778 Kenneth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:46:59am

re: #753 Occasional Reader

You just need to make up a good story now about how you lost that tooth. Something involving ninjas.

Ninjas? Don't be ridiculous! Realwest cracked his tooth when he was forced to bite off the wires to an Al Qaeda dirty bomb in the New York subway.

779 coz  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:47:08am

Thursday stuff:

"The Mouse Trap," by Agatha Christie is the longest running play in history.

All of the roles in Shakespeare's plays were originally acted by men and boys. In England at that time, it wasn't proper for females to appear on stage.

All the proceeds earned from James M. Barrie's book "Peter Pan" were bequeathed to the Great Ormond Street Hospital for the Sick Children in London.

Barbara Bush's book about her English Springer Spaniel, Millie's book, was on the bestseller list for 29 weeks. Millie was the most popular "First Dog" in history.

Bilbo Baggins was born on September 22 1290.

Brabara Cartland is the world's top-selling author with over 500 million copies sold.

Cinderella's slippers were originally made out of fur. The story was changed in the 1600s by a translator. It was the left shoe that Aschenputtel (Cinderella) lost at the stairway, when the prince tried to follow her.

Dr. Seuss wrote "Green Eggs and Ham" after his editor dared him to write a book using fewer than 50 different words.

Edgar Allan Poe introduced mystery fiction's first fictional detective, Auguste C. Dupin, in his 1841 story, "The Murders in the Rue Morgue."

Frank Baum named "Oz" after a file cabinet in his office. One cabinet was labeled "A to N," and the second was labeled "O to Z."

Ghosts appear in 4 Shakespearian plays; Julius Caesar, Richard III, Hamlet and Macbeth.

Harriet Beecher Stowe's "Uncle Tom's Cabin" was published March 20, 1852. It was the first American novel to sell one million copies.

John Milton used 8,000 different words in his poem, "Paradise Lost."

Margaret Mitchell wrote Gone with the Wind between 1926 and 1929. In her early drafts, the main character was named "Pansy O'Hara" and the O'Hara plantation we know as Tara was called "Fountenoy Hall."

Of the 2200 persons quoted in the current edition of "Bartlett's Familiar Quotations," only 164 are women.

Professor Moriarity was Sherlock Holmes' archenemy.

Sherlock Holmes never said 'Elementary, my dear Watson.'

Sherlock Holmes, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's brilliant detective, arrived on the mystery scene in the late nineteenth century in "A Study in Scarlet" (1887).

The occupations of the three men in a tub were butcher, baker, and candlestick maker.

The original story from Tales of 1001 Arabian Nights begins, 'Aladdin was a little Chinese boy.'

The Three Musketeers names are Porthos, Athos, and Aramis (D'Artagnan joins them later.)

780 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:47:14am

Gotta get moving, Lizards, see y'all later. Hope your pie-hole feels better soon, Realwest.

781 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:47:14am

re: #740 galloping granny Hey galloping granny - you don't really think even Obama would be that, that so - I just don't have words to describe it - PRESUMPTUOUS do you?!

782 Occasional Reader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:47:18am

re: #763 OldLineTexan

At this point, I am half-expecting the returns of Jesus and Mohammed, who will carry the crown to Obama and place it on his head, respectively, Lord of the Rings-style.

Wrong. Only the Emperor can crown the Emperor. Dem insiders released this sketch of how they expect the ceremony to proceed.

783 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:47:42am

re: #770 karmic_inquisitor

Greenheart'd for reference. Interestingly, the "Battlefield 2000" name reminded me of this game, which is set during a future Ice Age and features a Russian-Chinese coalition invading the EU.

784 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:47:48am

re: #697 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq" is on the bargin table at my local Borders - even at $4.99 hardcover its a rip-off.

BWAHAHAHAHA! I remember when that came out. Rod Dreher, a former anti-idiotarian who came down with a severe case of BDS, liked it.

785 lifeofthemind  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:47:53am

re: #771 Kosh's Shadow

I forgot, pirates also liked the beans; we've all heard of the
pirates of the carob bean

Consider flatulence humor as read, received and disposed of.

786 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:48:27am
787 Noam Chumpski  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:48:31am

I had considered voting Democrat this November, but after watching this Convention I now realize that I am not a big enough Victim.

Oh, well... guess I'm stuck with the Reps. :)

Jokes aside... how can one balance these speeches that emphasize family and "do it yourself" with the Democrat platform of "only more Government can save you"?

Sounds to me like Michelle, Clinton, and Biden's families didn't need Government anywhere near their lives.

Is this the "Cognitive Dissonance" that I hear so much about?

788 OldLineTexan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:48:50am

re: #782 Occasional Reader

Wrong. Only the Emperor can crown the Emperor. Dem insiders released this sketch of how they expect the ceremony to proceed.

That is a very racist sketch.

789 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:48:53am

re: #769 buzzsawmonkey

See #625 above. GMTA.

See here buzz - [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

790 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:50:03am

re: #754 taxfreekiller
I sit corrected. Sort of.
BTW, I LOVE that "realwestertoothextractorpersonofpain" very, very good!

791 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:50:16am

re: #779 coz

Cinderella's slippers were originally made out of fur.


Fur makes much more sense. Easier to run in, too.

792 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:50:22am
793 snowcrash  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:50:27am

re: #637 Walter L. Newton
Loved your photos and report of the Al jeez visit to Golden. It was really well done. Thanks for sharing.

794 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:50:33am

re: #787 Noam Chumpski

I had considered voting Democrat this November, but after watching this Convention I now realize that I am not a big enough Victim.

Oh, well... guess I'm stuck with the Reps. :)

Jokes aside... how can one balance these speeches that emphasize family and "do it yourself" with the Democrat platform of "only more Government can save you"?

Sounds to me like Michelle, Clinton, and Biden's families didn't need Government anywhere near their lives.

Is this the "Cognitive Dissonance" that I hear so much about?

Part of it.

795 OldLineTexan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:50:51am

re: #785 lifeofthemind

Consider flatulence humor as read, received and disposed of.

A carob bean, for your enlightenment.

I.e., NOT a flatulence joke, but a pun.

796 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:51:12am

re: #754 taxfreekiller

#729
realwestertoothextractorpersonofpain

correction..

"it was the commie Democrats who lost the war assisted by the liars and FRAUDS of the msm, (NBC, CBS, ABC, New York Times).

The real "civilians were the parents of the fighting men who served in Vietnam

Starting with the crazy uncle Walter Cronkite.

797 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:51:33am

re: #790 realwest

I sit corrected. Sort of.
BTW, I LOVE that "realwestertoothextractorpersonofpain" very, very good!

How're you doing real?

798 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:51:44am

re: #788 OldLineTexan

That is a very racist sketch.

And when BHO is asked whether he has the right to crown himself, he'll reply, "Of Corsican."

799 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:51:46am
800 Yankeeboy  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:52:04am

A man walks up to a guy and a dog at a street corner. The man askes if his dog bites. The other guy says, "no." So the first guy reaches down to pet the dog and the dog bites him. The bleeding guy says, "I thought you said your dog doesn't bite." The second guy says, "It's not my dog."

801 The Other Les  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:52:09am

re: #681 karmic_inquisitor

Obamatons/Moonies

I've met Moonies. They'll politely thank you for your time and go away if you tell them you're an atheist.

Obamatons (I prefer Obamatologists) have rejected the principle of consent in social, economic, and other political relations. They are tyrannophiles at the very core of their beings.

F*** them.

802 HoosierHoops  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:52:28am

re: #791 scottishbuzzsaw

Fur makes much more sense. Easier to run in, too.


Just you wait....
Buzzsaw...PETA on line 2.
/

803 lawhawk  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:52:29am

re: #732 Occasional Reader

Global warming! Back before the evil Bush took office, hurricanes were always predictable, and never did any damage! In fact, they gently powered wind turbines and rained gumdrops.

Wouldn't that be zionist windmills?

804 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:52:30am

re: #796 Ward Cleaver
Hi Ward. I'm not so sure ole Walter was Crazy - he'd already decided that the US had to lose that war, saw his opportunity and struck.

805 Ugh!  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:52:36am

About that whole Greek Temple thing:

Do you think he's just trying to immitate the Lincoln Memorial, which is also a classical Greek temple structure, on the anniversary of King's "I have a Dream" speech?

806 Occasional Reader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:52:44am

re: #788 OldLineTexan

That is a very racist sketch.

My franchophobia is nobody's business but my own!

807 midwestgak  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:53:15am

re: #795 OldLineTexan

A carob bean, for your enlightenment.

I.e., NOT a flatulence joke, but a pun.

Well poot

808 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:53:32am
809 lifeofthemind  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:53:38am

re: #798 pre-Boomer Marine brat

And when BHO is asked whether he has the right to crown himself, he'll reply, "Of Corsican."

Bounaparte wrote his love letters in Italian. He was multi-lingual, a true progressive.

810 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:54:00am

re: #807 midwestgak

PHEW!

/a compliment

811 OldLineTexan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:54:28am

re: #806 Occasional Reader

My franchophobia is nobody's business but my own!

I am afraid you have just been indicted in Canada by the Human Rights Commission. Please turn in your "Moose Inspector" badge, your pop-gun, and your supplies of back bacon, Labatt's, Molson's and Moosehead.

812 CIA Reject  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:54:43am

re: #735 Occasional Reader

You've seen strong men at the Democratic Convention?!

Well, the odor anyway...

813 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:55:19am

re: #805 Ugh!
See galloping grannies' post at #740.

814 christheprofessor  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:56:12am

re: #800 Yankeeboy

A man walks up to a guy and a dog at a street corner. The man askes if his dog bites. The other guy says, "no." So the first guy reaches down to pet the dog and the dog bites him. The bleeding guy says, "I thought you said your dog doesn't bite." The second guy says, "It's not my dog."

There's a great scene in the credits of one of the Pink Panther series where they act that joke out, with the French accents:

Peter Sellers: Duz your dog-a bat?

Person Next to Dog: No.

(Peter Sellers reaches down to pet the dog, which bites him)

Peter Sellers: I thut yoo sed your dog-a deedn't bat!

Person Next do Dog: Zet ees not-a meh dog-a.

815 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:56:18am

re: #797 galloping granny Hi, please see my #512, and double up on that PAIN ! That's how I'm doing.

816 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:56:25am

re: #782 Occasional Reader

Wrong. Only the Emperor can crown the Emperor. Dem insiders released this sketch of how they expect the ceremony to proceed.

He's gonna' crown WAB?

817 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:56:43am

re: #781 realwest

Hey galloping granny - you don't really think even Obama would be that, that so - I just don't have words to describe it - PRESUMPTUOUS do you?!

I think he has already been presumptuous enough to build what is clearly a mock up of the Lincoln Memorial, where MLK gave the I have a Dream speech and accept the Dem nomination on the anniversary of MLK's speech. Something is behind those two "doors" on the ends. I can't think of much else that would fit the theme. And Obama is the single most presumptuous individual I have ever come across.

Frankly, realwest, I commented early this morning that the whole thing really quite reminds me of Nuremberg. Hitler was a master propagandist and this entire show really follows the pattern he set.

818 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:57:17am

re: #799 buzzsawmonkey

Well, you beat me to the punch--but I came to it independently.

That is because great minds think alike Buzz :)

819 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:57:18am

re: #809 lifeofthemind

Bounaparte wrote his love letters in Italian. He was multi-lingual, a true progressive.

And consider his statement about an army marching on its stomach. Could it be POSSIBLE that he was a harbinger of today's Lizards?!

/sarc, Stinky, sarc ... NO Stinky ... OW!

820 OldLineTexan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:57:43am

re: #816 MandyManners

He's gonna' crown WAB?

He had better not. We have laws against domestic violence in this country. Plus, Michelle's retribution will be faster than the cops.

/order a pizza, dial 9-1-1

821 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:57:54am

From the "Cognitive Dissonance Department": Cuba jails punk rocker for "social dangerousness." Meanwhile, American punks make no plans to get rid of their Che T-shirts.
/hat tip NRO

822 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:58:18am

For those saying "the civilians lost Vietnam, not the troops" I agree mostly but not entirely. First, the ground pounders (the fighting men) did not lose. The upper echelons of the Army, however, went along with whatever the civilians concocted as "the new strategy" and would add a positive feedback loop to those civilians via body counts and whatnot that never created a realistic, candid picture of what was going on.

Patraeus et al have managed to change that (though it took getting Rumsfeld out of the picture for the feedback to make it through).

823 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:58:23am

re: #815 realwest

Hi, please see my #512, and double up on that PAIN ! That's how I'm doing.

Cold helps. Do not try to suck anything out of a straw - you can end up with a dry socket and that is very painful. Yogurt.

824 OldLineTexan  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:58:36am

Looking at the new thread title, nothing is more fitting at an Obama coronation than puppets.

825 laZardo  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:58:56am

re: #816 MandyManners

Touché, and good evening to ye!

826 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:58:59am

re: #637 Walter L. Newton

Beta version of the Golden versus Al-Jazeera photo retrospect.

Let me know if you have any trouble with the page. I'm not really a web page designer, so I need input. The pics are a bit large, so I'm curious if anyone has trouble loading the page.

Number 5 needs input.

[Link: home.comcast.net...]

Good job, Walter. And yes, she is much better looking than a Code Pinko.

827 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:59:04am
828 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:59:19am

ZOMBIE THREAD!

829 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:59:24am

re: #817 galloping granny

Frankly, realwest, I commented early this morning that the whole thing really quite reminds me of Nuremberg. Hitler was a master propagandist and this entire show really follows the pattern he set.

Good thing for us that Obama isn't as smart as that little GERMAN (by way of Austria) corporal then!

830 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 7:59:56am

re: #804 realwest

Hi Ward. I'm not so sure ole Walter was Crazy - he'd already decided that the US had to lose that war, saw his opportunity and struck.

He's just crazy now (his remark a few years ago about men he'd known that he would have married).

831 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:00:18am

re: #738 OldLineTexan

You have been fooled.

Rumsfeld was fired because Katrina did not finish New Orleans. Bush's weather machine is back in action, aiming for the complete and utter annihilation of Ray Nagin's Chocolate City.

Aren't the gangs already well on their way to achieving annihilation?

832 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:00:31am

re: #827 buzzsawmonkey


The amount to which Napoleon set the
template for subsequent dictatorships, including the Nazi and Communist
dictatorships, is astonishing. Classical iconography--check. Massive,
adoring portraits--check. Warring against traditional religion--check.
Heroic nudity in art--check. Messing around with basic traditional
social institutions--check (during the early Napoleonic reign, the
French were still trying to impose a 10-month calendar, a decimalized
clock
, and a calculation of years based on, and beginning with, the
Revolution).

Did someone say "metric clock?"

833 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:01:22am

re: #814 christheprofessor

There's a great scene in the credits of one of the Pink Panther series where they act that joke out, with the French accents:

Peter Sellers: Duz your dog-a bat?

Person Next to Dog: No.

(Peter Sellers reaches down to pet the dog, which bites him)

Peter Sellers: I thut yoo sed your dog-a deedn't bat!

Person Next do Dog: Zet ees not-a meh dog-a.

One of my favorite Pink Panther scenes. In that same movie (I think the same one), another one of my fave scenes - at one point Peter Sellers is wearing a facial disguise that includes some sort of nose, and the nose begins to melt off of his face.

834 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:01:47am

re: #823 galloping granny What the bleep is a dry socket? I've had 2 or 3 teeth extracted by the same Oral Surgeon and he's never said anything to me about a dry socket.

835 Cygnus  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:01:55am

re: #74 BignJames

No pens or pencils either, only crayons.

No photography allowed, only finger painting.

836 lifeofthemind  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:02:01am

re: #821 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

From the "Cognitive Dissonance Department": Cuba jails punk rocker for "social dangerousness." Meanwhile, American punks make no plans to get rid of their Che T-shirts.
/hat tip NRO

Since the social contridictions that justify and create alienation and asocial behavior no longer exist in a socialist society behavior that is brave and creative in a capitalist setting is only evidence of mental disorder in Cuba.
/feel better now?

837 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:03:17am

re: #707 laZardo

The U.S. military made mistakes in Vietnam? Would you care to elaborate? Wars are full of mistakes, but I'm curious as to why you would say such a thing. The failures experienced were a result of the atmosphere here at home. As one who was there, I can tell you that we felt that we were fighting not so much for our country or theirs, but for ourselves. We felt we didn't have the support of those who should have been supporting us. That's a question (Do you think the U.S. Military made mistakes in Vietnam?) you ought to ask Sen. McCain. See what kind of a response you get.

I won't ding you down for your comment, but I think we deserve to hear what you have to say.

838 jorline  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:03:26am

In celebration and homage to Barackus Hermes Obamanos I will be knocking off early today.

We will be going "Animal House" at my home this evening. Complete with kegs and toga attire.

All hail Barackus

839 Ben Hur  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:04:27am

Somethings up with my comment box.

If the sentence extends beyond the borders, the frame expands and I lose the the quoue/bold/link option buttons and the words go off into space.

I have to cut a paste to even get the Post the Comment button to appear.

840 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:04:34am

re: #837 Cap'n DOC
AMEN Brother.

841 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:05:07am

Opportunism Knocks

So the Big Speech is tonight. Accepting the nomination for President tonight is a remarkable man. Obama knocked off the strongest Democrat political dynasty since the Kennedy's, he beat the most formidable American female politician ever and stands at the base of a 47 day climb to leader of the free world.

Why did this happen? Many reasons:
- a terrible early campaign by Hillary and the refusal of her campaign, for whatever reason, to hit Obama hard on his real weaknesses.
- in the 8 years since Clinton left office, the Democratic party has become increasingly radicalized
- the Clintons refused to hit Obama for being too left for fear of angering that very base of the party
- they tried to go around the party on Florida and Michigan and the maneuver backfired, she won every big state, with those two state would have put her over- the party leaders turned on her
- just as the far left drove Lieberman from the party, so too they turned on the only folks to ever bring the dems into the White House twice since Truman, the disease of ideological purity has firmly set into the democrats

And Who Is Barrack Obama?

He is many things but most of all: the most far left candidate the democrats have ever run for President, he makes McGovern look like Goldwater. If he does not win, the Democratic party will implode from his defeat with acrimony and recriminations unlike anything you have ever seen before. Nasty racial attacks against centrists and the Clintons will share equal place against a nation so "bigoted" it is willing to put an African American at the top of a major party ticket.

Obama is very smart but as a man ALWAYS aiming for the Presidency, one can only be amazed at his associations with the likes of Rezko and Ayers. Despite knowing the incredible additional burdens he faced as an African American scaling the Peak, he nevertheless nested with a who's who of who you would not want to associate with if you seek public office. With his success in print and politics, why cut a corner on purchasing his home with Rezko, why serve on a board with a man openly at war with the US? Poor judgment, at best, and because it was unnecessary, a window into his true political soul at worst.

Give the man credit for chutzpah, he saw his chance and within months of his election to the US Senate, he goes right for the Big Brass Ring; and against all odds pulls it off! But at a price he never considered, he is betting on Bush backlash, a bad economy and being a fresh face to be his entire campaign- he has only momentum alone to make his case for leadership, he was lucky the Georgia debacle happened in summer, let any major event showcase his lack of ability as Commander in Chief between now and election day and Obama is toast. Praying for a quiet in the midst of the current global turmoil is a grand hope indeed. The only thing he has going for him is Iran does not want McCain and plans nothing too major until after the election.

In a world with Iran, Russia, and China on the march, Obama is ill prepared for the world he will inherit to lead. He did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING while on the Senate FR Committee. And while I am sure he can read a map, his gaffe of dropping the Bomb on Pearl Harbor indicates a slim background of modern history and zero military strategic experience. If he is elected, it will be a very long four years.

So how did we get so lucky that everyone's second and third choice, John McCain, got the nomination from a party that last year did not even want to know his name? How did the the maverick shake loose from the herd to claim the top of the hill? Only McCain could have made the GOP competitive this year, he may not be the man he was in 2000 but he is still at his core the same man, from the Surge to Georgia, his instincts are right and he continually shows how he will lead if elected. He is the only change this nation needs in the times in which we live.

Obama was able to seize the nomination from his party but destiny's gate is opening for McCain.

842 christheprofessor  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:05:30am

re: #833 reine.de.tout

One of my favorite Pink Panther scenes. In that same movie (I think the same one), another one of my fave scenes - at one point Peter Sellers is wearing a facial disguise that includes some sort of nose, and the nose begins to melt off of his face.

What's funny is I never saw that movie - a buddy and I had just flipped on the TV as the credits were rolling by, and we laughed our asses off at that (musta been the bong hits -- youth and all)...

For years after that, all I had to do was say "Zet ees not-a meh dog-a" and he would lose it...

843 Occasional Reader  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:05:33am

re: #827 buzzsawmonkey

However, not everything that comes out of Corsica is bad.

844 The Other Les  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:05:34am

re: #775 Kenneth

What great fun! Thanks for posting it... I love this bit:

The return of FU! I loved that BBC mini-series. As Picasso said, "Ordinary artists borrow, great artists steal."

I actually started another FU fanfic. It was based on Mark Whittington's alternate history tale of FU after 9/11.

845 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:05:47am

re: #839 Ben Hur
Hey Ben - you're right - try posting a music link from Imeem and you can't do it unless you copy and paste it either.

846 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:05:57am

re: #841 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

racist!
/

847 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:05:58am

re: #834 realwest

What the bleep is a dry socket? I've had 2 or 3 teeth extracted by the same Oral Surgeon and he's never said anything to me about a dry socket.

Dry socket can occur within a few days of any tooth extraction, 5-10% of cases.

848 Beach Lover  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:06:23am

re: #814 christheprofessor

There's a great scene in the credits of one of the Pink Panther series where they act that joke out, with the French accents:

Peter Sellers: Duz your dog-a bat?

Person Next to Dog: No.

(Peter Sellers reaches down to pet the dog, which bites him)

Peter Sellers: I thut yoo sed your dog-a deedn't bat!

Person Next do Dog: Zet ees not-a meh dog-a.


Hey CTP..long time no talk..how's the "not so new" puppy?

849 galloping granny  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:06:35am

re: #834 realwest

What the bleep is a dry socket? I've had 2 or 3 teeth extracted by the same Oral Surgeon and he's never said anything to me about a dry socket.

Essentially what happens is you suck the clot out of the wound. He did tell you not to smoke or suck on a straw, right? That's why.

850 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:08:51am

re: #841 Ayatollah Ghilmeini Truly great post my friend, especially this:


- in the 8 years since Clinton left office, the Democratic party has become increasingly radicalized

And, I would add, increasingly young and inexperienced in the ways of the World. The real world.

851 christheprofessor  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:08:59am

re: #848 Beach Lover

Hey CTP..long time no talk..how's the "not so new" puppy?

Hey, Beach! How are you? Pup is fine -- took the avatar pic just last Sunday at the park. She's taking a break from swimming while sitting on a park bench....

852 jorline  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:09:34am

re: #834 realwest

What the bleep is a dry socket? I've had 2 or 3 teeth extracted by the same Oral Surgeon and he's never said anything to me about a dry socket.

Dry socket is bad news RW...read reine's link.

853 rw in san diego  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:10:10am

re: #637 Walter L. Newton

Very nice job and thank you.

Good morning, all.

Realwest, are you here? How are you? Wishing you well.

854 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:10:15am

re: #849 galloping granny Uh, suck the clot out of the wound?
Wouldn't that result in a lot of bleeding or something - why the "dry socket" and what can be done about it if ya get it (I've been smoking and used a straw when I first got home)?

855 The Other Les  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:12:32am

re: #808 buzzsawmonkey

I've met atheists who could learn from the Moonies, then.

I'll bet they believed that Atheism was a Holy Cause.

Assholes.

856 realwest  Thu, Aug 28, 2008 8:13:48am