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Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 8:55:21 am PDT

John McCain’s vice presidential pick: Alaska governor Sarah Palin.

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1 Lively  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:56:21am

I feel like I'm at Macy's with all these new threads.

2 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:56:28am

I'm happy.

3 Irene NYC  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:56:28am

Go Sarah!

4 Shug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:56:30am

Welcome Hillary Supporters

/McCain

5 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:56:34am

MCCAIN/PALIN 2008!

6 cybermonk  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:56:41am

a super pick, a team to vote for

7 phoenixgirl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:56:49am

very exciting!

8 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:57:26am
9 txcamper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:57:32am

A bold choice. About as much foreign policy experience as Obama, and more executive experience than the other three candidates combined.

10 Bosch Fawstin  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:57:39am

Very interesting.

11 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:57:40am

I went ballistic when I heard Carl Cameron on Fox when he referred to her as a "girl".

12 Lively  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:57:55am

At least people are talking.

People could have been saying, Ugh...not him.

13 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:58:05am

How does the head Lizard feel about this?

/seriously

14 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:58:07am

John McCain leads from the front.

15 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:58:21am
16 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:58:22am

A solid choice. It pumps the base; attacks Democrat weaknesses, and the best thing the Democrats can claim is that she's not experienced enough, which only brings more attention to the fact that Obama has even less - and no achievements to his name.

17 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:58:24am

I can't wait to fluster my feminist friends by bragging I get to vote for a woman!

18 Urban Scorpion  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:58:56am

Good pick.

19 phoenixgirl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:58:57am

now when i vote for mccain, i won't have to bring my vomit bucket

20 gopninja  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:59:06am

awful pick. She is a CREATIONIST.

21 txcamper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:59:08am

re: #11 MandyManners

I went ballistic when I heard Carl Cameron on Fox when he referred to her as a "girl".

And he kept getting her name wrong. I wonder why his producers weren't screaming,"It's SARAH not SUSAN" into his ear.

22 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:59:17am

Did Rove just refer to a potential scandal as a "nothing burger"?

23 Lively  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:59:32am

I thought it was going to be Liberman there for a minute.

24 BigDog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:59:43am

Rove, you magnificant bastard!

25 princetrumpet  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:59:46am

Pro-life/2nd amendment/borders/war on terror/security...

Goodbye Osama bin Biden.

I am so effing stoked I can't stand it.

26 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:59:54am

Her nickname when she played High School Basketball-Guard- was "Baracuda". When she entered politics she got the nickname back! Apparently she is a tough old gal! Good for her. Bring the Democrates on!

27 gopninja  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:59:55am

also currently under investigation. wtf is going on here?

28 rw in san diego  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:00:05am

re: #22 MandyManners

What's the potential scandal?

29 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:00:05am

re: #21 txcamper

And he kept getting her name wrong. I wonder why his producers weren't screaming,"It's SARAH not SUSAN" into his ear.

I wanted to whack him with my clue-by-four.

30 Vergeltung  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:00:05am

re: #16 lawhawk

A solid choice. It pumps the base; attacks Democrat weaknesses, and the best thing the Democrats can claim is that she's not experienced enough, which only brings more attention to the fact that Obama has even less - and no achievements to his name.

exacamatacily. brilliant pick, IMO.

31 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:00:07am

re: #20 gopninja

awful pick. She is a CREATIONIST.

/linky?

32 ljmw  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:00:19am

I wanted Romney but I am equally enthusiastic about Sarah. This really ramps up the excitement level. I'm just sorry that I'm going to be away from the media for the weekend. I'll have to play catchup when I get back.

33 boatguyjim  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:00:26am

Clinton supporters will come over to the light in truck-loads now

34 Shug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:00:28am

I can't wait for the Democrats to argue that she lacks the qualifications to be president since she only has two years experience Running a state.

at that point McCain says, she has at least the same qualifications, and both are qualified to be vice President

35 Deafdog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:00:32am

This is a borderline shocker. She's got all of the tools and an interesting story, but tossing her into a national campaign without national experience comes with a high, high risk factory.

Question - Does this mean Mac can be persuaded to drill in ANWAR?

36 Charles  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:00:42am

Ugh. I'm not thrilled.

Sarah Palin is a creationist.

37 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:00:43am

re: #28 rw in san diego

What's the potential scandal?

Something about the state troopers and her sister being married to someone.

38 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:00:51am

Sheesh
Again from the previous previous thread lol

Front paged on kos by kos:


Let's be honest: John McCain clearly wanted Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman, but he was afraid to buck his party's choice ideologues. So then they looked at Mittens, but having a baker's dozen homes wasn't looking so hot. So he figured that with Pawlenty, he might make a play for Minnesota, but that got shot down over the last week as it become increasingly obvious that Biden would wipe the floor with him in their debate.

Throw in Obama's ground-shifting speech last night, and it was clear that McCain had to throw a hail mary to just remain in the game, much less be competitive.

So we get Sarah Palin, who has a fairly compelling personal story and is an attractive woman, but has scant political experience, zero name recognition outside of political junky circles, faces an ethical investigation by her own legislature, and will now be forced to run a grueling national campaign despite having an infant child at home.

Those are the marks of desperation, and really, given his precarious electoral position, John McCain had no choice

39 Alberta Oil Peon  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:01:08am

Good choice on McCain's part. Gives his ticket a nice blend of youth and experience, and Palin's honesty and conservative credentials are above reproach.

40 phoenixgirl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:01:24am

re: #27 gopninja

she will be cleared once the facts are brought forward

41 Big Steve  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:01:25am

I like I like.......3....2....1 Obama supporters are calling her too inexperienced.....that is the something calling the something something!

42 twincitiesgirl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:01:27am

Typically McCain--a maverick pick for a guy who likes to surprise people--

43 infopimp  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:01:27am

Hillary lovers... come on over!

44 Charles  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:01:37am
45 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:01:42am

re: #23 Lively

I thought it was going to be Liberman there for a minute.

/not a chance in two hells

46 Shug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:01:43am

Ferraro--First woman nominated to be VP

Palin--First woman nominated who actually has a chance to be VP

47 freedombilly  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:01:45am

This should have the Dems scrambling at least.

48 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:01:48am

re: #33 boatguyjim

Clinton supporters will come over to the light in truck-loads now

For sure? They're mostly pro-choice.

49 Ol Yaler  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:01:54am

This gives the Republican ticket a chance to rebrand itself as a reform ticket and put deficit spending, earmarks and corruption behind it. The dynamics of this race have changed at the presidential level and may have changed at the congressional level as well.

50 joecitizen  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:02:02am

ballsy choice (so to speak)...if your a poker player,the senator just went 'all in' with a 7-2 off-suit...now if he only appoints John Bolton as sec.state we'll be cruisin'...

51 bosforus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:02:05am

Palin. Yes! She and Romney were always at the top of my short list.

52 razorbacker  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:02:10am

Eggggssssseeeeelllllent.

I love the smell of moonbat heads exploding in the morning.

It smells like victory.

53 HypnoToad  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:02:11am

Great!

After what happened to Hillary at the Dem convention, this immunizes half of the Rep ticket from most attacks or the Dems lose a lot of female support. It might also torpedo Hillary's political future depending on her conduct during this campaign. If she shows anger at being cut out of the first presedential ticket with a woman on it, shes done.

54 SpartanWoman  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:02:11am

My first choice was Romney, but Palin will do nicely. Every time the media mentions lack of experience it will only underscore the disaster that is Obama..lol. And GOPers can point to the experience at the top of the tiicket where it matters most!

Hooray, it is not Huckabee!

55 grahamski  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:02:13am

While I understand why she was picked, I think it will backfire....

56 Zippy_Slug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:02:17am

re: #11 MandyManners

I went ballistic when I heard Carl Cameron on Fox when he referred to her as a "girl".

Did anyone else notice in an interview with Jimmah Carter calling Barry Hussein a "black boy"... Was on Rush (yesterday?).. Rush was considering doing the same to see if there would be an outrage at him.. heh

Great choice for McCain.. I would have picked her right after FRED!

57 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:02:36am

re: #17 Sharmuta

I can't wait to fluster my feminist friends by bragging I get to vote for a woman!

I'm just imagining my moonbat sister's reaction. She was a Hillary gal for the sole reason that Hillary was, well, female.

58 Optimizer  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:02:51am

It's amazing how - even with her fairly thin resume - she is more qualified, in terms of experience, than the Dem presidential candidate!

Also, let's note the timing on this. ("Barack who"?...)

You gotta love her!

59 Vergeltung  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:02:53am

re: #20 gopninja

awful pick. She is a CREATIONIST.

chew me.

60 Tigger2005  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:03:05am
August 29, 2008
Dem Platform is for Whiners
By Robert Robb

...

The soul of the Democratic philosophy is summed up in this passage from the platform: "For decades, Americans have been told to act for ourselves, by ourselves, on our own. Democrats reject this recipe for division and failure."

...

This is just incredible. This should be spread far and wide. This is a rejection of the very foundations of this country.

If this is a recipe for "division and failure," why has America been one of the most stable and economically successful countries on Earth for decades?

61 rawmuse  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:03:10am

I am very pleased about this.

62 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:03:24am

re: #44 Charles

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

No big deal

63 arizona9  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:04:07am

I'm really afraid McCain just lost.

Hillary lovers... come on over!

Hillary lovers will never support Palin.

64 joncelli  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:04:13am

re: #44 Charles

It's a valid concern, and a drawback; but as long as she doesn't try to force creationism into policy -- i.e., maintains separation between church and state -- not a deal killer.

65 Defector01  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:04:14am

I love this choice! I'm thrilled!
Finally a reason to get excited about this ticket

Charles,
I'm not happy about her being a creationist either but frankly that's a small price to pay

66 amphibian  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:04:14am

Does anyone know anything about the woman? I have come to have a very good opinion of Sen. McCain's character lately, and think that there may be some good judgment there as well, so his choosing Gov. Palin as a running mate speaks in her favor. But what about concrete information?

67 Lively  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:04:19am

re: #20 gopninja

awful pick. She is a CREATIONIST.

The new litmus test.

68 DeliLama  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:04:20am

This is a VERY painful pick for Obama.

69 Pyrocles  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:04:26am

Well, she has the freedom to believe what she wants...As long as she doesn't push it on the rest of us.

re: #44 Charles

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

70 phoenixgirl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:04:28am

i love that she is married to an eskimo!

71 Yishai  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:04:28am

Watch the McCain announcement LIVE:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

72 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:04:33am

re: #23 Lively

That would have been a disaster. McCain would have lost the Presidency with that pick. This is a brilliant pick. It defuses Obama's "historicness", and mollifies the base. That latter is critical. As I've said before, the art of winning the Presidential election is to hold your base, and appeal to moderates. McCain does the "appeal to moderates" thing quite well, too well, in fact to hold the base by himself. Palin will hold the base, and appeal to those who wanted to vote for Hillary! because of her second X chromosome.

Well done. I didn't think McCain would do this. I am pleasantly surprised.

73 michaelhop  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:04:43am

Don't know much about her, but from what I'm quickly reading, what an incredible pick.

To all those PUMA's - COME ON DOWN to McCain/Palin.


Sorry HRC, you should have been a Republican.....all that work setting yourself up for 2012 down the drain.....

74 Defector01  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:04:45am

re: #38 Typicalwhitey

Translation: Oh we are in so much trouble! :-D

75 phoenixgirl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:05:00am

hillary must be PISSED!

76 SpartanWoman  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:05:04am

re: #44 Charles

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

As much as I am NOT a creationist, the origins of the species and life on earth is a non-issue for me. Evolution does not fill my tank, win wars or keep my taxes down.

77 Optimizer  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:05:05am

re: #36 Charles

Ugh. I'm not thrilled.

Sarah Palin is a creationist.

Say it ain't so!

Well, we've had a lot of Creationist presidents, and it didn't kill us.

78 Dianna  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:05:07am

re: #44 Charles

Well, that's a bummer.

However, the rest of it looks good. Maybe she won't bring up creationism.

79 Shug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:05:12am

re: #63 arizona9

I'm really afraid McCain just lost.

Hillary lovers... come on over!

Hillary lovers will never support Palin.


You don't need all of them.
But you might get enough of them to make the difference in a close race.

80 Zippy_Slug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:05:16am

re: #36 Charles

Ugh. I'm not thrilled.

Sarah Palin is a creationist.

And.. the problem is?....

81 Junior  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:05:27am

Give me a break people. Who cares if she is a creationist. We're talking about being VP and helping to take on Islamic-fascism. If the fact that she is a creationist will make you be disappointed, then all you are doing is showing your religious zeal for evolution and nothing more. Tell me, is that religion that important to you?

82 maddogg  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:05:28am

This news has got the women in my plant dancing a jig. I also noticed that Palin is pulling 70 % positive vote at the TMZ on line poll. I don't know much about Palin but so far it seems the McCain campaign has knocked it for a long one.

83 HoosierHoops  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:05:28am

re: #33 boatguyjim

Clinton supporters will come over to the light in truck-loads now


I checked out some PUMA sites..They seem to really like the pick..
/welcome Clinton supporters!

84 rabidsquirrel  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:05:35am

re: #37 MandyManners

Something about the state troopers and her sister being married to someone.

I think her ex brother in law was a State Trooper, and there are allegations that she got him fired.

85 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:05:40am

re: #20 gopninja

What's your source?

86 Sizzlack  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:05:45am

I don't know much about her but she is certainly easier on the eyes than Joe Biden.

87 Age Of Freedom  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:05:49am

Is it good? 'Hope' that sucks out all the Hilary votes from BHO.

88 OldLineTexan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:05:58am

re: #48 MandyManners

For sure? They're mostly pro-choice.

Yes, I am not convinced that women are going to just knee-jerk vote for a ticket based solely on a female presence.

That would be sexist.

Of course, I am kind of happy to be able to call ALL Dhimmi voters sexists this season. Makes up for me being so racist and all by refusing to vote for a Marxist empty suit and a windbag.

89 Tigger2005  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:05:59am

Charles, I'm not crazy about the creationist angle either...it turned me off Bobby Jindal quite a bit. But I don't think it will get anywhere. McCain is not a creationist, and frankly I think this is an issue Presidents and veeps would rather stay away from.

90 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:06:06am

re: #77 Optimizer

Say it ain't so!

Well, we've had a lot of Creationist presidents, and it didn't kill us.

It ain't so.

91 Vergeltung  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:06:06am

re: #62 Nevergiveup

No big deal

exactly. almost completely irrelevant.

92 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:06:11am

Whatever thunder obama had last night is gone. Utterly gone.

93 rawmuse  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:06:13am

As for her creationist beliefs (if true), we can not allow the good become the victim of the perfect. In American politics, the only truism is that no one gets every single thing that they want.

94 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:06:17am

re: #1 Lively

I feel like I'm at Macy's with all these new threads.

As in they take a long time to load, and the hamsters aren't providing the service we want?

95 phoenixgirl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:06:21am

as my late father, may the perpetual light shine upon him, would say,"I'M SO HAPPY I'M DANCING!"

96 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:06:36am

re: #44 Charles

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

In an interview Thursday, Palin said she meant only to say that discussion of alternative views should be allowed to arise in Alaska classrooms:

"I don't think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class. It doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."

She added that, if elected, she would not push the state Board of Education to add such creation-based alternatives to the state's required curriculum.

/not a threat

97 arizona9  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:06:40am

She's a creationist? I'm really scared now.

98 Yishai  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:06:45am

btw, This is a very shrewd and genius move by McCain. Smells like a Rove move.

If the Dems try to cut her down by her lack of experience....

Too young? Same silence...

And McCain was getting flak for being to Centrist on many issues. Palin shores up his right constituency.

Awesome move.

99 Cain  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:06:52am

An amazing pick. I did not think McCain had the wisdom to make such an obviously fantastic choice. Finally, a conservative in this race that can energize this base. They'll be getting money now from me and the wife. Obama's goose is officially cooked in my estimation. So refreshing to wake up to news like this after months of fighting off slight feelings of nausea when looking at the choices available. McCain/Palin... all the way now. And you want a good look at the first female President of the US? Take a good long look at Sarah and smile big.

100 snowcrash  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:06:57am

I don't care if she is a creationist. I am sure many of her positions are different from mine.

101 TN_Vol  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:06:58am

Good pick.

She is attractive, conservative, a sports fan, a reasonable environmentalist who favors drilling in Alaska, pro 2nd amendment and a hunter. I think she can show that environmentalism and additional energy production are not mutually exclusive.

I like it.

102 Big Steve  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:07:05am

Her husband is a oil field operator.....what a refreshing change from lawyers on lawyers.....a real blue collar guy and in the oil bidness....

103 txcamper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:07:11am

Foxnews is gushing.
CNN is towing the Obama line. A commenter on the Corner said that the MSM will turn Palin into the new Kathleen Harris. CNN is getting a head start.

104 wiffersnapper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:07:16am

Great pick, easy win for mccain

105 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:07:25am

re: #44 Charles

She added that, if elected, she would not push the state Board of Education to add such creation-based alternatives to the state's required curriculum.


Bummer.

106 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:07:26am

re: #36 Charles

So are a large percentage of the GOP base. Probably a majority, if you really get them to think about it. It is not an issue that is on most people's front burner.

107 unclassifiable  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:07:32am

re: #36 Charles

Accepting that I think the critical point is whether she believes that she can use the state to impose those views on it's citizens.

108 lifeofthemind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:07:57am

Maybe they can get Ferraro's endorsement?

109 madmama  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:08:01am

From this mother in regards to another (Palin)!
I personally think it's GREAT!
It will revitalize the Republican party...put a much needed new face on it.
It's going to take away media coverage from Obama...take the steam out of his sails.
We will be able to learn about Palin in the next months....again, great for the media angle!
It will attract that 'older women' category to the voting booths....with votes for Palin.
And from what I see, once people get to know Palin, they will vote wholeheartedly for McCain...instead of holding their noses!
And in 2012.....what about Palin for President!
All along we thought Hillary would be the first woman president......today this pick changes everything!
And along with Palin as President.....let's put Allen West in as VP......first black VP in history! ....then on to President! The first conservative, black Republican for President! Take that Obama! Slam dunk!

110 Defector01  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:08:08am

re: #103 txcamper

Oh please CNN go after her like that - prove you're so in the tank for Obama that you'll rip a woman to shreds like that.

111 Tigger2005  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:08:15am

re: #76 SpartanWoman

As much as I am NOT a creationist, the origins of the species and life on earth is a non-issue for me. Evolution does not fill my tank, win wars or keep my taxes down.

Well, technically it COULD, since we won't stay an economically powerful or scientifically advanced nation forever with a population that doesn't understand basic science.

112 Optimizer  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:08:21am

re: #46 Shug

Ferraro--First woman nominated to be VP

Palin--First woman nominated who actually has a chance to be VP

Hmmm... I despise "identity politics", but reality is reality. Let's count now. How many biracial people in America? Now...how many women? Dems were never good at math!

113 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:08:48am

Great pick! You go, girl!
I had no idea that 'creationist' was the new litmus test. For crying out loud, get over it!

114 unclassifiable  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:08:53am

re: #107 unclassifiable

Ooooops.

I now see up it up thread.

Go ahead -- ding me down.

115 boatguyjim  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:08:54am

re: #48 MandyManners
Yes they are But they
1. Want the O man to lose so Clinton can run in 4 years
2. If they have to vote Republican, it's easier now that they are voting for a woman on the ticket

116 susanl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:09:02am

YeeeHaw - take that Slow Joe!

117 joncelli  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:09:11am

re: #96 Killian Bundy

Okay, that's a relief. She recognizes the separation of church and state and maintains it. I don't think we need to be worried unless it comes up again.

118 crown_of_feathers  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:09:20am

Love it...love it...LOVE IT!

This will deflate, a bit, the preposterously inflated Obama balloon.

I have become so, so, so, sick of hearing the name, and seeing the face, of Obama, that any other new name sounds good to me.

119 Icculus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:09:20am

And she's a BABE!

120 Charles  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:09:22am

Her position on creationism is at least not as extreme as Bobby Jindal's, and there's no evidence she believes in exorcism, so she has that going for her.

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

121 wccawa  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:09:33am

This will make the swimwear competition at the VP debate VERY interesting.

122 OldLineTexan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:09:40am

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Bummer.

WHAT?

Did you miss the "not", or am I stoned?

If I'm stoned, why am I not having more fun?

/

123 arizona9  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:09:44am

said that the MSM will turn Palin into the new Kathleen Harris

That's EXACTLY what they will do. They're already doing it. They're already discussing the fact she's under investigation.

124 Defector01  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:09:56am

Are people on this cite SERIOUSLY opposing Sarah Palin for the SOLE REASON that she's a creationist? Is this turning into the LGF litmus test?

125 vbspurs  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:09:58am

Wow! 1 hour to get on LGF! Drudge was down until a moment ago too. WHAT A DAY.

Those of you who are interested in hearing Governor Palin, can catch her on Craig Ferguson here.

For this Brit, she has a wonderfully pleasant, Middle America kind of accent. A bit like Hillary, but more genuine. I love everything about her, ever since I posted about her, 4 months back. HUGS TO ALL!

126 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:17am

re: #63 arizona9

I'm really afraid McCain just lost.

Hillary lovers... come on over!

Hillary lovers will never support Palin.

I guess I am married to the exception to your rule.

127 Jinx  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:17am

This would explain why they're adding the so-called global warming/greenhouse gas plank to the republican stance.

It'll help against the lie that McCain is just another big oil person as she's fought against the big oil while going for energy independence.

I'm not really surprised. I was hoping for Mitt, but McCain wants to lure from the democrat party. Maverick indeed.

The question is now, will the republican party hold together now that the presumptive leader of the republican party isn't interested in thoroughly courting the conservative side?

128 Peter Verkooijen  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:18am

Excellent inspired choice! So glad he didn't pick a safe slick suit like Pawlenty or Romney. This works on so many levels; women, younger than Obama, ANWR, working families, son in Iraq, Washington outsider, etc.

129 Piglet-U93  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:18am

re: #20 gopninja

awful pick. She is a CREATIONIST.

Hey, I am a creationist/evolutionist

There is no contradictions with creationism and evolution except for the purpose-built versus the accidental aspects concerning why life as we know it happens to be at all. I am no accident.

130 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:23am

Obama campaign is saying that Palin who will Be a heart beat away from the presidency has NO experience. Hum now who is it that is actually running for President that has NO, Absolutely NO, foreign policy experience. Now who is that?

131 Defector01  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:23am

re: #121 wccawa

oh dear G-d I don't wanna see Biden in a frakking swimsuit!

132 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:25am

Note to Palin: Ixnay on the frosted lipstick.

133 captkirk35  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:27am

Wow! What a pick. Brilliant!

134 Tigger2005  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:35am

jeez, when are McCain & Palin going to come out already?

135 ljmw  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:43am

re: #84 rabidsquirrel

Her aids persuaded the powers that be to fire him because he was beating her sister. Gonna be hard to spin that into a negative.

136 David Baker  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:43am

Come November, weeping Oprah better get her false eyelashes surgically attached.

Meanwhile, Sarah has been cleaning up Alaska, such as strongly opposing Ted Steven's Bridge To Nowhere. She's a genuine reformer with no patience for the political cesspool.

137 BrianA  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:43am

re: #36 Charles

Ugh. I'm not thrilled.

Sarah Palin is a creationist.

I don't see anything wrong with someone who has a religious conviction. This is a bogus litmus test.

138 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:49am

YES, yes & yes.... she is everything McCain isn't.

I feel like dancing. (-:

139 SpartanWoman  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:52am

re: #111 Tigger2005

Well, technically it COULD, since we won't stay an economically powerful or scientifically advanced nation forever with a population that doesn't understand basic science.

Rubbish. The origin of life is an esoteric debate at best and has squat to do with oil exploration or taxation. A big non-issue, far below the economy, energy, war and peace, fairness doctrine, health care.

140 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:52am

re: #107 unclassifiable

Accepting that I think the critical point is whether she believes that she can use the state to impose those views on it's citizens.

She said she would not

141 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:57am

re: #120 Charles

Her position on creationism is at least not as extreme as Bobby Jindal's, and there's no evidence she believes in exorcism, so she has that going for her.

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

But she has actual executive experience, whereas obama has none. They can't attack her for it, it reflects on obama.

142 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:10:59am

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Bummer.

/how is that a bummer?

143 arizona9  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:11:16am

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

That's how I see it. They just tossed on of their best arguments off the table.

144 jill e  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:11:22am
145 Charles  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:11:26am

re: #113 Cygnus

Great pick! You go, girl!
I had no idea that 'creationist' was the new litmus test. For crying out loud, get over it!

You'd better get used to it, because I'm not going to "get over it."

And this is not a litmus test for me. But it is a problem, and a serious one.

146 joncelli  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:11:30am

re: #120 Charles

Respectfully, I think executive experience trumps legislative experience in most people's minds. There are too many senators in this race as it is.

147 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:11:36am

re: #121 wccawa

This will make the swimwear competition at the VP debate VERY interesting.

Bikini vs. Speedos? Better stock up on eye bleach.

148 Optimizer  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:11:40am

re: #88 OldLineTexan

Yes, I am not convinced that women are going to just knee-jerk vote for a ticket based solely on a female presence.

That would be sexist.

Of course, I am kind of happy to be able to call ALL Dhimmi voters sexists this season. Makes up for me being so racist and all by refusing to vote for a Marxist empty suit and a windbag.

I heard a woman say she was going to vote for Hillary in the primary because she was a woman. It's sexist, and not very bright, but remember that half the voters are of below-average intelligence (by definition).

149 devil in baggy pants  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:11:58am

re: #36 Charles

Ugh. I'm not thrilled.

Sarah Palin is a creationist.

That's your main litmus test?!

150 Big Steve  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:12:04am

re: #120 Charles

Her position on creationism is at least not as extreme as Bobby Jindal's, and there's no evidence she believes in exorcism, so she has that going for her.

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

IMHO being a governer, with real operational authority greatly trumps senate experience. I would put it at 3:1 so her three years as governer equals nine years as a senator.

151 tradewind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:12:14am

Shut UP!
Hanging up my prediction shoes.
She's great, but Karl is not happy, so I am not sure.

152 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:12:19am

re: #120 Charles

She has even less experience than Obama.

/how do you figure that?

153 Atweber  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:12:27am

Brilliant choice --I didn't think Mc Cain had it in him.

154 cblesz  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:12:32am

re: #130 Nevergiveup

Obama campaign is saying that Palin who will Be a heart beat away from the presidency has NO experience. Hum now who is it that is actually running for President that has NO, Absolutely NO, foreign policy experience. Now who is that?

Hey! The Democrat is running is a former community organizer! In the Saul Alinsky case nonetheless.

155 Tigger2005  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:12:36am

re: #124 Defector01

Are people on this cite SERIOUSLY opposing Sarah Palin for the SOLE REASON that she's a creationist? Is this turning into the LGF litmus test?

I'm not. I like the pick. She evidently does not believe in using the State to force this view into science classrooms.

156 rawmuse  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:12:42am

re: #84 rabidsquirrel

I think her ex brother in law was a State Trooper, and there are allegations that she got him fired.

I also hear the BIL was beating his sister, which is why Palin came after him.
I got no symp for physical abusers.

157 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:12:44am

re: #36 Charles

Ugh. I'm not thrilled.

Sarah Palin is a creationist.

I can forgive it as long as it it not pushed on us. I rather like the fact she strove to clean up her own city's government, and then the Alaska state government.

Ditto for my own Lt. Governor, Pat Quinn. He's a Dem, a liberal, but I like him because he strives to clean up Illinois government inspite of Blagojevich, Ryan, and Daley.

158 Zippy_Slug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:12:45am

re: #120 Charles

At least she has executive experience.. where Barry Hussein has never run anything in his life..

159 arizona9  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:12:46am

re: #124 Defector01

Are people on this cite SERIOUSLY opposing Sarah Palin for the SOLE REASON that she's a creationist? Is this turning into the LGF litmus test?

No, it just doesn't freaking help. That issue alone could fill hours upon hours of cable tv. I'm worried about the ol' VP motto...do no harm.

160 lifeofthemind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:13:02am

Her enemies, and they really hate her guts, in both parties are the business as usual, corruptocrats and we work for government so you can't fire us crowd. They will desperately try to smear her because she threatens the root of the tree for hacks in either party. A standadard get along to go along politician, like Biden or Ridge (one for either party) may have disagreements but they are not seen as dangerous. McCain/Palin threatens real change, expect torrents of slime to be thrown at them.

161 macbrooks  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:13:09am

I'm stoked. What an incredible election year!

mac :]

162 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:13:15am

re: #143 arizona9

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

That's how I see it. They just tossed on of their best arguments off the table.

No. She has at least as much experience as Obama. Probably MORE. She actually has 2 years of executive experience. If Obama wants to have this argument and he is running for President. Bring it on!

163 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:13:16am

Just heard a middle aged gal talking to two other middle aged gals in my liberal liberal area; 'Did you hear who McCain picked, Sarah Palin, Governer of aAlaska, she's 44... has kids... knows nothing...It's a Dan Quale Moment.'

Feh.

164 SpartanWoman  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:13:17am

re: #120 Charles

Her position on creationism is at least not as extreme as Bobby Jindal's, and there's no evidence she believes in exorcism, so she has that going for her.

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

And every time the obots mention this it will highlight the inexperienced TOP of the dem ticket...lol

165 Dizzy26  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:13:27am

This beautiful choice is going to frost the turban off Osama Bin Obama Ladin,
I mean, being a female and all.

166 Charles  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:13:36am

re: #152 Killian Bundy

/how do you figure that?

She's been a governor for less than half the time Obama's been a senator, for starters.

167 wccawa  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:13:50am

re: #120 Charles

Disagree, Charles. The more the issue of "inexperience" is brought up in regards to SP, the more that particular light is amplified directly onto BHO.

At least that's the way I see it. But it's early in the game.

168 hilchar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:13:51am

She is accused of trying to get a state trooper fired. He was her brother in law and abusive. He tasered their child.

169 rawmuse  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:13:54am

re: #156 rawmuse

"beating THE sister" PIMF

170 cblesz  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:13:55am

re: #148 Optimizer

I heard a woman say she was going to vote for Hillary in the primary because she was a woman. It's sexist, and not very bright, but remember that half the voters are of below-average intelligence (by definition).

Yup, let's see if those women who were voting for Hillary simply for a woman will vote for Palin?

171 Spiny Norman  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:14:08am

Reposted form the DT:

On the negative side, McCain just threw away his best argument: that the Obamarama lacks leadership experience. They have absolutely no room to complain now. Besides, many are going to see this as deliberately pandering to disgruntled Hillary supporters, and the Media talking heads will play that up for all it's worth.

I agree with Krauthammer: this is a very risky move.

And by the way, I am NOT a "pro-gun control metrocon".

172 snowcrash  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:14:09am

Obama handed McCain a long list of points for rebuttal in his speech last night. If the "experience issue" is off the table so be it, there are plenty of other issues.

173 Syrah  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:14:09am

That giant sucking sound you here is the wind being taken out of the Obamasiah's campaign.

Convention. Someone had a convention, . . . gave a speech about what?

It's Sarah Palin!

174 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:14:09am

She has 5 years of executive experience- that's more than obama or biden can say.

175 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:14:10am

I think it's good because the left with trash her - which will backfire.

176 BigJohn  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:14:17am

The creationist thing is Minute in the big picture of things.

177 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:14:18am

re: #145 Charles

You'd better get used to it, because I'm not going to "get over it."

And this is not a litmus test for me. But it is a problem, and a serious one.

How much influence can a VP have over the national debate?

178 MijaCat  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:14:25am

Excellent! Great pick!

Very happy to see McCain on the offensive, rather than just attack, he's going for some substance, and Palin is red meat for the base.

McCain I can't love. He's too far to the center.
McCain/Palin I can get behind.

Besides, think what this does for Clinton 2012 ... (big evil grin)

Mew

179 rabidsquirrel  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:14:30am

re: #135 ljmw

Her aids persuaded the powers that be to fire him because he was beating her sister. Gonna be hard to spin that into a negative.

And yet, the Democratic propoganda machine will give it the 'ol college try.

180 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:14:31am

Could have been infinitely worse.

/could have been Huckabee

181 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:14:38am

re: #145 Charles

You'd better get used to it, because I'm not going to "get over it."

And this is not a litmus test for me. But it is a problem, and a serious one.

She made a comment off hand that she sees no problem with it being discussed and she is NOT in favor of any state mandate to teach it in public schools. Then she said she believed in G-D. That is not so out of line.

182 Defector01  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:14:51am

re: #159 arizona9

this is about the ONLY bad thing about her, i don't care about that especially as a VP. We've been rotating between horror and hope between Joe Lieberman/Tom Ridge and Mitt Romney, and this is the bloody complaint? She believes in creationism? Look I don't back that stuff at all but what she brings on one side of the scale and creationism is on the other, then it so doesn't matter.

183 captkirk35  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:15:09am

re: #55 grahamski

I don't think so. Her "negative" is experience, but every time the Obama campaign mentions it, 'Pot calling kettle black' will come to mind.

184 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:15:14am

re: #166 Charles

She's been a governor for less than half the time Obama's been a senator, for starters.

And he has done what as Senator?

185 Czarny_Smok  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:15:19am

Almost went into withdrawal this morning trying to log in, finally made it!

Awesome! What a choice! McCain is a sly old fox, what a way to stand the media on its collective heads, and just before a 3 day weekend. This is really gonna PO the Obama crowd, and any attacks on Sarah are going to have interesting repercussions with the Womens vote. OK, I'm finally getting excited now, and may even drag out the checkbook again. Kudos to McCain's advisor's, they done good!

186 itellu3times  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:15:36am

re: #44 Charles

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

Could be worse.

187 Spider Mensch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:15:36am

To all those who are over reacting to the creationist "label" already given to VP nominee Palin...if you are looking for the perfect conservative choice, good luck, there is no perfect choice. She is a great pick imo.

188 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:15:38am

re: #120 Charles

Her position on creationism is at least not as extreme as Bobby Jindal's, and there's no evidence she believes in exorcism, so she has that going for her.

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

Obama has a lot less experience than she does. Obama has never won re-election to an office. Palin has, as council member, then as mayor. Mayor counts as a lot more executive experience in my book than "community organizer". She's also a governor right now, not a Senator.

189 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:15:42am

Another note to Palin: lose the bun.

190 txcamper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:15:42am

re: #166 Charles

She's been a governor for less than half the time Obama's been a senator, for starters.

And how much of Obama's experience in the Senate counts? He has zero accomplishment. I expect the Republicans to highlight the fact going into September.

191 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:15:46am

I think McCain's finally arrived.

192 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:15:51am
193 Alberta Oil Peon  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:15:54am

re: #62 Nevergiveup

No big deal

In this case, I agree. Reading the link, it appears to me that she isn't any kind of hard-core Discovery Institute style creationist. Sounds more like she was playing politics, trying to be all things to all people.

/not that that ever happens

194 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:15:55am

re: #168 hilchar

She is accused of trying to get a state trooper fired. He was her brother in law and abusive. He tasered their child.

/and buried the child in her neighbors backyard, on th QT

195 cblesz  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:15:55am

People...may I remind you...this is the VICE PRESIDENT. Holy crap.

196 David Baker  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:15:57am

Sarah Palin has more "executive experience" than Obama AND Biden put together.

197 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:16:00am

re: #36 Charles

She is entitled to her opinion as are we all; if she respects other's opinions in this area, fine with me.

198 filetandrelease  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:16:03am

So she is a creationist, hardly a deal breaker. And besides she is cute. And a decent shot with a rifle.

199 OldLineTexan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:16:06am

re: #184 Nevergiveup

And he has done what as Senator?

Yes, we could actually look at accomplishments versus time in pay grade.

200 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:16:06am

I am THRILLED!

201 reine.de.tout  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:16:09am

re: #141 Sharmuta

But she has actual executive experience, whereas obama has none. They can't attack her for it, it reflects on obama.

But they have already "attacked" - Obama campaign issued a statement that made mention, in a negative way, of her lack of experience.

I cannot get over how Obama and his campaign keep making issues of things for other people that are SIMILAR ISSUES for him. Doesn't he know when to keep his mouth shut?

202 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:16:26am

re: #175 FrogMarch

I think it's good because the left with trash her - which will backfire.

It's already started!

203 Defector01  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:16:30am

re: #166 Charles

She's been in office longer still then Obama's 135 days 'present' in the senate. She has alot more experience in formulating policy, she's a reformer and she has legislative history. She's MORE experienced then Obama and she's the VP which means we assume she'll be sitting and learning from McCain's one term before taking the office.

204 Joyce  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:16:40am

As a woman born in Alaska with a son in the military, I tickled pink!

205 seekeroftruth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:16:41am

Palin earned each of her jobs, unlike Hillary, who used her husband's connections to get hers.

206 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:16:43am

re: #166 Charles

She's been a governor for less than half the time Obama's been a senator, for starters.
___________________________________________

True Charles, yet Gov's get a more stuff done than any Senator.

207 yochanan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:16:46am

I AM GRINNING FROM EAR TO EAR THIS TOTALLY SHOT TO HELL THE DONKS ISSUE OF MCCAIN AS BUSH3

208 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:16:53am

I love this. The Dems are already trying to say she's inexperienced...

She's run a town.

She' run a city.

Obama, who runs a Senate committee or subcommittee, can't even figure out how to get it to meet...

209 arizona9  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:17:01am

She's been a governor for less than half the time Obama's been a senator, for starters.

Well, apparently, the city she was mayor of is the size of a 7/11. Christ, I'm really terrified. I could have lived with Hillary as president. i would have gritted my teeth and endured it. I can't endure Obama.

210 unclassifiable  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:17:04am

re: #44 Charles

OK That's a lot of political fence-sitting there.

Still does not leave me with a lot of ingformation about under what particulars would those views be allowed or disallowed. Theology discussion? Philosophy discussion?

I hope the people who support McCain or at least are against Obama/Biden will vette her further on this.

Admittedly I support McCain's move as a political maneuver.

211 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:17:09am

Van Halen?!

212 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:17:11am

They're coming out on stage right now. Woo-hoo!

213 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:17:13am

re: #143 arizona9

She will have 4 years to get experience.

214 phoenixgirl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:17:14am

i hate mccain, but today i send him money!

215 filetandrelease  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:17:20am

re: #99 Cain

An amazing pick. I did not think McCain had the wisdom to make such an obviously fantastic choice. Finally, a conservative in this race that can energize this base. They'll be getting money now from me and the wife. Obama's goose is officially cooked in my estimation. So refreshing to wake up to news like this after months of fighting off slight feelings of nausea when looking at the choices available. McCain/Palin... all the way now. And you want a good look at the first female President of the US? Take a good long look at Sarah and smile big.

Bingo!

216 Optimizer  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:17:25am

re: #120 Charles

Her position on creationism is at least not as extreme as Bobby Jindal's, and there's no evidence she believes in exorcism, so she has that going for her.

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

Less at the federal level, but she's been a governor about as long as he's been a senator, and that's at least a chief executive position. She has far more executive experience than Obama (which, admittedly, isn't saying much), overall.

And remember, she's not the presidential candidate. It's an important distinction (although, admittedly, it probably shouldn't be).

217 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:17:31am

Someone elsewhere reported that one of the CNN types asked whether Palin can really put in the time & energy on this campaign, because of her baby with Down Syndrome, and those kids take a lot of time...

Response from other commenter: McCain campaign is probably wondering if you'd ask the same question if Palin was male.

I thought we were a little farther down the trail about women. The prejudice about disabilities doesn't surprise me as much. I wonder if anyone in network news KNOWS anyone with Down Syndrome.

218 callahan23  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:17:35am

On one issue she's got more experience than any of the other candidates, she at least governed a state.

219 vbspurs  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:17:42am

With respect to those who are denigrating her executive experience, IMHO Sarah Palin has more than Obama.

Being a Mayor of a city, plus a city council woman, not to mention Governor of the largest State in the Union (and a key State in the future of American politics, giving the possible drilling in ANWR), that trumps "State Senator" and "activist".

Whatever the eff that activist word means...

220 guitardalek  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:17:44am

McCain/Palin.

Out-freaking-standing.

221 rawmuse  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:17:45am

In place of actual experience the ENERGY issue will now be in the fore, once again, where it belongs. ENERGY! people. It is THE salient issue of this election cycle.

222 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:17:55am

re: #120 Charles

Her position on creationism is at least not as extreme as Bobby Jindal's, and there's no evidence she believes in exorcism, so she has that going for her.

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

Not entirely Charles. She does have far more in depth knowledge of energy issues than either Obama or Biden does. She got a natural gas pipeline built to pump from Prudhomme down into Canada that will go operational shortly. We'll be using that gas down here. She is a military mother and also the statutory head of the Alaska National Guard.

223 Tigger2005  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:18:10am

re: #139 SpartanWoman

Rubbish. The origin of life is an esoteric debate at best and has squat to do with oil exploration or taxation. A big non-issue, far below the economy, energy, war and peace, fairness doctrine, health care.

Evolution isn't really about the origin of life, but never mind.

I didn't make myself clear. The I.D./evolution debate is not confined to "the origin of life." I.D. proponents actually change the definition of science as it has stood for 300 years or more, in order to call their "theory" science. If I.D. were taught in science classrooms, this would accelerate the decline in basic understanding of scientific principles that is already rampant in this country.

That said, I'm excited about the Palin pick. I think she has a Reagan attitude. I have little doubt Reagan was a creationist. But he wasn't the type to try to force religion into science classrooms.

224 CIA Reject  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:18:13am

This pick casts into stark contrast the difference between the two tickets. McCain with an established (and now reinforced) reputation as a “maverick” has chosen a former governor of Alaska, Americas last frontier, while BO has chosen a consummate Washington insider. You can’t get any clearer a divide between the ticket of self-sufficiency, and the ticket of the “nanny state”.

What a country!

/Good Morning Everybody!

225 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:18:21am

re: #201 reine.de.tout

But they have already "attacked" - Obama campaign issued a statement that made mention, in a negative way, of her lack of experience.

I cannot get over how Obama and his campaign keep making issues of things for other people that are SIMILAR ISSUES for him. Doesn't he know when to keep his mouth shut?

Let him attack her for it- it reflects on him. If he's too stupid to realize that, I say we let him continue.

226 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:18:25am

This is the first time I have EVER heard any enthusiasm at a McCain rally. Now that is IMPORTANT!

227 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:18:29am

Oh, I'm tearing up AGAIN.

228 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:18:56am

re: #211 MandyManners

Van Halen?!

He's a hipster.

229 Rancher  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:18:59am

Great call lizards. I like it on many levels, mostly any critics that will complain about her lack of experience fall into a neat trap. For those who say she needs to stay at home with the new baby, well as VP she will have allot more time for that than she did as Governor of Alaska. Hillary has to spitting level 10 venom out her eyes, she will be twice as mad at Obama now. Rush likes it.

230 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:19:07am
231 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:19:13am

I'm concerned that the "lack of experience" thing blunts one of McCain's best offensive weapons in this campaign. McCain says "Obama lacks experience"; Obama says "your VP lacks experience"; there's mutual assured destruction, of sorts. And that works in Obama's favor, since he's more than happy to let the "experience" question fade out from the race.

And the creationism thing ain't exactly making me happy either.

On the plus side, she seems soundly conservative, and apparently has done a good job as governor.

232 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:19:15am

Aww- they're singing Happy Birthday to him.

233 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:19:25am

re: #222 galloping granny

Not entirely Charles. She does have far more in depth knowledge of energy issues than either Obama or Biden does. She got a natural gas pipeline built to pump from Prudhomme down into Canada that will go operational shortly. We'll be using that gas down here. She is a military mother and also the statutory head of the Alaska National Guard.

Granny- sounds like you are jumping on board!

234 itellu3times  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:19:32am

So, Duncan Hunter's sex change operation, just took too much time?

/this interdweeb thing sure is slow this morning

235 gemchick  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:19:40am

One word: Fabulous!

Shows McCain is actually listening to conservatives. Yeah, Maverick.

Oh, she's a creationist? Seriously, is that the best you've got? The other side's got infanticide. I think we're in a good place.

236 Pyrocles  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:19:44am

If Palin becomes the new VP, It's Charles' job to keep her honest, and keep her Creationism out of government.

If Obama becomes the new President, it's Charles' job to...well, he's got LOTS of work to do!

237 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:19:44am

re: #166 Charles

She's been a governor for less than half the time Obama's been a senator, for starters.

/compare what they've accomplished in their respective terms of office, not much of a contest

238 Dahveed  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:19:46am

Outstanding selection.

239 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:19:47am

Sarah Palin is the new fresh face of the authentic meaning of pro-choice. Her personal experience brought to light the meaning of a woman's right to her own choice; now bring on States' rights to choose.

'Feminist' Dem stepped all over their more-qualified-than-Obama female candidate for both POTUS and VP, and that's a great talking point too.

(not to mention what all this means to feminism's old face: hillary =) )

240 Urban Scorpion  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:19:53am

re: #120 Charles

Eh...

Obama has no executive and low legislative experience while running for a near-purely executive position.

Palin has no legislative and low executive experience while running to be part of an executive position with legislative overtones.

My money's on Sarah Palin for applicable experience.

241 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:19:56am

"John McCain! John McCain!"

242 kefirah  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:19:57am

re: #167 wccawa

i think a lot of it depends on how the GOP spins it. yes, WE all think that this highlights obamessiah's inexperience, but how will undecided and moderate viewers see it?

mccain campaign still has to hit it, and spin it, HARD. or else the point is lost.

243 Jinx  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:20:18am

re: #175 FrogMarch

I think it's good because the left with trash her - which will backfire.

You're under the misconception that the left is intellectually honest.

244 see bs  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:20:32am

Hot Conservative Momma! Yay for Palin

245 ROPMA  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:20:39am

re: #19 phoenixgirl

now when i vote for mccain, i won't have to bring my vomit bucket

GMTA

246 Defector01  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:20:41am

LISTEN to this ovation McCain's getting
Palin has done wonders already, I can't ever remember such fire in a McCain crowd!

247 WitchDoctor  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:20:50am

This is friggin awesome, that's all I have to say right now except GO HERE [Link: www.johnmccain.com...] GIVE MONEY.

248 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:20:50am

test

249 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:20:51am

re: #227 MandyManners


Cool isn't it.

250 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:20:52am

They will go crazy for Sarah---Watch!

251 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:20:53am

Happy Birthday John!

252 phoenixgirl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:20:54am

mccain is so f'n happy! i've never seen this side!

253 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:20:58am

re: #184 Nevergiveup

And he has done what as Senator?

Vote present, vote against the Illinois Born Alive Act, vote present again, campaign for President.

That sums it up.

254 lifeofthemind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:21:03am

How does she handle the tried to fire her brother in law smear?

Look right in the camera and say, "When a law enforcement officer loses his control and uses a weapon on a child during a personal domestic dispute then he loses his job. Full Stop!"

255 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:21:07am

re: #246 Defector01

LISTEN to this ovation McCain's getting
Palin has done wonders already, I can't ever remember such fire in a McCain crowd!

Bingo

256 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:21:08am

re: #166 Charles

She's been a governor for less than half the time Obama's been a senator, for starters.

Yeah but one could argue that her short time as governor is much more important than a no-show senator.

257 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:21:14am
258 Zevy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:21:20am

Charles she has more governing, executive, experience than the 3 other combined!

259 Atweber  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:21:21am

Despite Charles' silly war on religion I believe her faith is one of her stronger attributes, also she's a baskeball player--pretty cool! This choice likely gained millions of women voters.

260 Kenneth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:21:26am

re: #227 MandyManners

Oh, I'm tearing up AGAIN.

What's the matter, didn't McCain vet you?

261 Yishai  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:21:34am

He's out and talking...

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

262 OldLineTexan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:21:52am

re: #254 lifeofthemind

How does she handle the tried to fire her brother in law smear?

Look right in the camera and say, "When a law enforcement officer loses his control and uses a weapon on a child during a personal domestic dispute then he loses his job. Full Stop!"

Yep. Answer the question once, and make it brutally honest.

263 Jinx  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:22:26am

Did McCain pick her because she looks like the President from Battlestar Gallactica?

:D

264 itellu3times  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:22:27am

Palin can debate Obama, and McCain can debate Biden.

This is gonna be one hellacious campaign.

The game is afoot.

265 mean Gene  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:22:30am

Hubby is a Native American Eskimo!
Gotta love that!
Also she walked off of a job in AL government (oil related) because the gov was a butt.
Then she ran against him and won in a landslide.
Ha ha ha.
It is going to be great to have my ''feminist'' neighbors not voting for a woman while I do.
AND....what's this?
Do some here have a ''litmus test" about creation as to who they will vote for?
Are you really going to stay home over something that will have no impact on her years in office?

266 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:22:32am

This election is going to come down to energy policy- in that Palin should put us over the top.

267 dentate  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:22:33am

This is someone who unseated an incumbent in the primary. If she has to face Joe Biden in debates, she will have all the advantages of being a daring pick with an interesting background, not upstaged by Biden or anyone else in family background, yet at the same time will clearly not be intimidated by someone like Biden. And given Biden's record of foot-in-mouth disease, I am hoping the comparison will make the McCain/Palin ticket look that much better.

268 txcamper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:22:34am

re: #248 FrogMarch

test

C-. No capitalization or punctuation. :)

269 wccawa  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:22:36am

re: #226 Nevergiveup

You got THAT right. This is the most intense McCain rally I've seen since, well...

The Spanish-American War?

Folks, welcome the foil to Obamania. I give you Pailinmania!

270 devil in baggy pants  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:22:37am

McCain needs a teleprompter, not notes

271 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:22:53am

WHAT Inesco Obamapalooza?

....oh, that one............


lol

272 Syrah  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:22:55am

re: #242 kefirah

i think a lot of it depends on how the GOP spins it. yes, WE all think that this highlights obamessiah's inexperience, but how will undecided and moderate viewers see it?

mccain campaign still has to hit it, and spin it, HARD. or else the point is lost.

It will depend largely on how Sarah Palin spins it.

273 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:22:57am

re: #239 runrabbitrun

Yes and how many pro choice people ask the child in the womb for its choice?

There is the meaning of choice

274 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:23:10am

re: #231 Occasional Reader


And the creationism thing ain't exactly making me happy either.

=====================================

Long as there is NO record of her pushing it while in office I don't really care.

275 de La Valette  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:23:16am

1. No ones talking about Obama's speech anymore
2. Does this put the wet side of Washington and Oregon into play?
3. Poor Joe Biden, he has to attack her and look like a cad
4. She may take a few magazine covers from Obama
5. What will be important is how Ferraro and HRC come on this? Its a perfect chance to bury a dagger in Obama's back.

276 Han_Solo  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:23:16am

I was fully prepared to vote Libertarian this year.


But I think we might have got the 2000 McCain back, and I am prepared to go full bore for the guy if he is the gutsy veteran he used to be.


This pick is awesome, awesome, awesome. I think she would be a fantastic pick for president in 2012 too!

The problem with the Republicans is its been the party of 'Whos next in line' for FAR TOO LONG.

Our country needs more inexperienced people to lead. Because these days experience is a code word for 'i have been a life long politician and have not a clue what the real world is like'.

A person with little experience to me is the next best thing to term limits.

277 Spiny Norman  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:23:20am

re: #168 hilchar

She is accused of trying to get a state trooper fired. He was her brother in law and abusive. He tasered their child.

Because of the Palin connection, the Kos Kidz are sure to argue that the kid probably deserved it...

No, I am not kidding.

278 Rancher  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:23:23am

Can't get much further away from Washington than Alaska.

279 Age Of Freedom  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:23:26am

Shhhh... McCain is giving a speech. Everyone shhh!

280 devil in baggy pants  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:23:33am

She is his "partner"...

making the strong maverick play for Palin's character.

HELL YEAH!

281 vbspurs  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:23:36am

The reception for John McCain was DEEP and HEARTFELT.

For once in my life, my own feelings for him are the warmest. GO JOHN AND SARAH!

(Oops, is that too Biblical?)

282 Salem  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:23:54am

Well, Obomba is not a Creationist but I still won't be voting for him.

283 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:23:58am

re: #259 Atweber

IMHO tens of millions of female voters

284 rlevitin  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:24:00am

im being impressed here

good intro to her

285 yochanan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:24:00am

SHE got ellected to be gov'r of alaska because she faught the crooks up there which is a big problem in alaska.

GREAT CHOICE I LOVE IT

286 filetandrelease  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:24:13am

No pick would make all lizards happy. But the amount of enthusiasm for Palin here is encouraging. That should translate well for the rest of the country.

Is Palin passes the Lizard test, look out country, here she comes.

287 unclassifiable  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:24:14am

I think McCain can take Obama in a debate on positions alone aside and apart from a discussion of experience.

288 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:24:17am

Here comes the big introduction!

289 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:24:25am

re: #263 Jinx


Naaa she MUCH better looking (hottie) LOL

290 lopinslow  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:24:31am

Actuallly she has more executive experience then all of them!

291 Peter Verkooijen  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:24:36am

re: #120 Charles

Her position on creationism is at least not as extreme as Bobby Jindal's, and there's no evidence she believes in exorcism, so she has that going for her.

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

As he should! The McCain campaign (and Republicans in general) needs to stop using the "not ready to lead" line. It doesn't work! "Not ready to lead" implies that some day, perhaps in 4 years, he could be ready. It also doesn't work with young people, who empathize with Obama being told he doesn't have enough experience. The lack of experience is what makes Obama a change agent to them.

Anyway, Palin still has more experience than Obama and is the only one of the four candidates with any executive experience.

292 RememberSekhmet?  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:24:40am

I'd have been happier with Guiliani or Romney, but I suppose Palin is OK. I think she needs some seasoning, just like Jindal does. Hope she's all the social cons have been hyping her to be and not another Quayle.

293 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:24:44am

BHO and Biden can only talk about education. Palin came from a family dedicated to it.

294 lifeofthemind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:24:54am

re: #253 Honorary Yooper

Vote present, vote against the Illinois Born Alive Act, vote present again, campaign for President.

That sums it up.


Nope. He did all that in theState Senate. In the US Senate Obama has done less.

295 txcamper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:24:59am

re: #275 de La Valette


5. What will be important is how Ferraro and HRC come on this? Its a perfect chance to bury a dagger in Obama's back.

Foxnews already interviewed Ferraro about it. She seemed more supportive than I expected.

296 Age Of Freedom  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:25:00am

Damn the broadcast quality from Fox is horrid.

297 Defector01  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:25:05am

Someone with "executive experience" someone who "reaches across the aisle"

Hope Change!

298 Tigger2005  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:25:10am

Whoops, little slip by McCain there...didn't he call Palin who puts "power over principle"? Think that was supposed to be the other way around, lol

I'm sure the Koskidz will call it a Freudian slip...

299 chukardog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:25:24am

GREAT CHOICE!
I dont even believe in god, but im appalled at folks that look down their noses at those who believe.

300 phoenixgirl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:25:24am

SARAH! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

301 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:25:27am

re: #293 MandyManners

BHO and Biden can only talk about education. Palin came from a family dedicated to it.

The more I hear the more I like!

302 Cartman  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:25:31am

Well, if nothing else, I think this will infuse some energy into JM's campaign.

303 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:25:35am

I would not want to be Joe Biden today. Why? because he will be in the position of having to publicly battle a female (and mother of 5) when many females feel he "stole" the VP gig from another female (Hillary).

Good luck with that one, dude

304 Charles  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:25:50am

re: #259 Atweber

Despite Charles' silly war on religion I believe her faith is one of her stronger attributes, also she's a baskeball player--pretty cool! This choice likely gained millions of women voters.

What a stupid comment. I have no "silly war on religion," as you would know if you had paid attention to a single thing I've posted on the subject of creationism.

305 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:26:05am

"First a mayor, and now a governor".
And now the future Vice President!

306 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:26:07am

re: #270 devil in baggy pants

McCain needs a teleprompter, not notes

Teleprompters break !

307 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:26:09am

Rush sounds very happy.

308 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:26:22am

re: #257 buzzsawmonkey

I disagree on the "lack of experience" thing. She has executive experience, which neither of the Democrats do--and she's not heading the ticket.

The Democrats have inexperience heading the ticket.

I agree that she has (arguably) more experience than Obama, relevant toward being Chief Executive. But she is still relatively inexperienced, compared to most political "household names". Yes, Obama will be vulnerable for bringing this up first, but that's not the point. "Lack of experience" is a KEY part of McCain's offense message. Anything that blunts that is, at the very least, risky.

309 phoenixgirl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:26:23am

re: #299 chukardog

GREAT CHOICE!
I dont even believe in god, but im appalled at folks that look down their noses at those who believe.

{chukardog} God loves you!

310 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:26:23am

re: #233 Nevergiveup

Granny- sounds like you are jumping on board!

Not entirely Nevergiveup. But I believe in John McCain as you know, I always try to be fair and I am willing to listen. I don't think that everything is negative about Sarah Palin - and quite obviously the Obama camp is scared to death of her. They had the single most negative statement I think I've ever heard in this kind of situation out within minutes of the newsies confirming it was Palin.

Just contrast Mac's congratulatory message of last night with the outrageous attack on Palin before she has ever been formally announced. Those Dems running Obama's campaign have no manners at all, no common decency. The statement they released today is just a forerunner of the way that they will present our nation to the world if we give them half a chance. I don't intend to give them a chance if there is anything that I can do to prevent it.

311 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:26:28am

In a week we celebrate women's suffrage, a devoted wife and mother of five.

312 dentate  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:26:35am

re: #112 Optimizer

Hmmm... I despise "identity politics", but reality is reality. Let's count now. How many biracial people in America? Now...how many women? Dems were never good at math!

Her husband is a Yupik Eskimo, so her kids are biracial.

I like that...Yupik..."You pick..."

313 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:26:43am

She was a business person in the private sector, a mayor, and now governor.

Obama - a no-show senator.

314 mean Gene  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:26:43am

Can you imagine Biden at his attack dog best losing points in a debate with her?
I sure can.
He admits that when he gets flustered he just starts making stuff up.

315 unclassifiable  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:26:47am

One more thing. You can get experience just sitting on your ass voting present month after month.

You get leadership by getting off of your ass.

316 Spiny Norman  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:26:50am

re: #265 mean Gene

Hubby is a Native American Eskimo!
Gotta love that!
Also she walked off of a job in AL government (oil related) because the gov was a butt.
Then she ran against him and won in a landslide.
Ha ha ha.
It is going to be great to have my ''feminist'' neighbors not voting for a woman while I do.
AND....what's this?
Do some here have a ''litmus test" about creation as to who they will vote for?
Are you really going to stay home over something that will have no impact on her years in office?

Some here have a litmus test about abortion and would definitely stay home if McCain had chosen a pro-choice VP.

317 snowcrash  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:26:54am

Media will be forced to pay attention to the Repub Convention. Palin is interesting!

318 devil in baggy pants  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:26:59am

grit integrity good sense... great points, John

319 looking closely  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:26:59am

I'm disappointed by this.

McCain said his first test for VP was someone instantly ready to assume the Presidency.

Great test, and I like Palin (despite her being a creationist), but she doesn't meet that basic criteria.

I'll still vote McCain, because I think the alternative is far worse, but this doesn't increase my excitement, it dulls it.

320 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:15am

re: #310 galloping granny

Not entirely Nevergiveup. But I believe in John McCain as you know, I always try to be fair and I am willing to listen. I don't think that everything is negative about Sarah Palin - and quite obviously the Obama camp is scared to death of her. They had the single most negative statement I think I've ever heard in this kind of situation out within minutes of the newsies confirming it was Palin.

Just contrast Mac's congratulatory message of last night with the outrageous attack on Palin before she has ever been formally announced. Those Dems running Obama's campaign have no manners at all, no common decency. The statement they released today is just a forerunner of the way that they will present our nation to the world if we give them half a chance. I don't intend to give them a chance if there is anything that I can do to prevent it.

I caught you defending her a bit. Come on now- admit it!

321 Defector01  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:17am

I hear someone up there doing a North African women's chant (or an Indian war whoop)

322 gopninja  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:18am

Lol I guess I am the only one here thoroughly disgusted with this campaign and now its just completely blown my mind. I've heard of putting lipstick on a pig, but this is a whole new level of metaphor.

323 CIA Reject  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:19am

re: #235 gemchick

One word: Fabulous!

Shows McCain is actually listening to conservatives. Yeah, Maverick.

Oh, she's a creationist? Seriously, is that the best you've got? The other side's got infanticide. I think we're in a good place.

I'll take misinformed over malicious any day!

324 rawmuse  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:19am

This is a great pick. John M. just threw the anniversary of women's suffrage in to the speech.

325 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:22am

re: #263 Jinx

Did McCain pick her because she looks like the President from Battlestar Gallactica?

:D

Her first act as VP; close down Gitmo... by having the terrorist detainees thrown out of airlocks.

326 Bill Dalasio  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:24am

re: #166 Charles

She's been a governor for less than half the time Obama's been a senator, for starters.

While true, she isn't heading up the ticket. To my mind, whoever get's in the VP slot is likely to have perhaps the closest to relevant experience anyone can have. The key decision-maker, however, is the President. And topping of the Democratic ticket is a guy who just doesn't measure up.

327 sadhu  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:29am

fantastic choice!

328 Salem  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:33am

re: #299 chukardog

GREAT CHOICE!
I dont even believe in god, but im appalled at folks that look down their noses at those who believe.

Are you appalled at people who understand that dinosaurs and humans didn't coexist?

329 txcamper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:35am

"A mother of five."

Other outlets are treating this fact as a detriment.
"How can she dedicate herself to the office of VP and still be a mother to a Downs baby?" Ugh.

330 reine.de.tout  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:37am

re: #64 joncelli

It's a valid concern, and a drawback; but as long as she doesn't try to force creationism into policy -- i.e., maintains separation between church and state -- not a deal killer.

It is just possible that as VP, any creationist views will have less influence as regards national issues, than the influence these views could have coming from the Governor of a state.

331 dmjung  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:41am

I'd vote for her any day. For the first time in a long time, I'm somewhat happy with the GOP.

332 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:44am

re: #259 Atweber

Despite Charles' silly war on religion I believe her faith is one of her stronger attributes, also she's a baskeball player--pretty cool! This choice likely gained millions of women voters.

WTF? Charles has a war against religion?!

333 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:44am

"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Governor Palin shares John McCain's commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush's failed economic policies -- that's not the change we need, it's just more of the same," said Bill Burton, Obama Campaign Spokesman.

334 Hanoch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:50am

re: #120 Charles

I agree with you on the experience issue. It seems Obama's lack of experience would be a big factor for independent voters. Now it will be harder for McCain to push that point. On the other hand, there seem to be a number of pluses, e.g., a solid conservative credentials, a woman, a Washington "outsider", etc.

Not sure what the creationist issue is for you--most (probably all) religious people believe the universe has a creator. If you mean she has issues with evolution, I don't see why that matters.

335 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:52am

Evangelicals are rejoicing.

336 Colonel Panik  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:27:56am

re: #171 Spiny Norman

I agree with Krauthammer: this is a very risky move.

And by the way, I am NOT a "pro-gun control metrocon".

To those who say Palin is a risky choice I would remind you of the motto of Britain's Special Air Service:
WHO DARES, WINS

337 arizona9  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:28:05am

Oh, she's a creationist? Seriously, is that the best you've got? The other side's got infanticide. I think we're in a good place

Yes, but nobody will ever know that. You think PBA issue will ever make it to the MSM? No way. But her being a creationist will.

338 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:28:07am
339 Age Of Freedom  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:28:11am

After hearing McCain's choice speech, I'm all revved up.

340 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:28:19am

Here she comes! Whooooooooooo!

341 Tigger2005  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:28:19am

re: #259 Atweber

Despite Charles' silly war on religion I believe her faith is one of her stronger attributes, also she's a baskeball player--pretty cool! This choice likely gained millions of women voters.

Charles is not conducting a "silly war on religion." He's fighting against a stealth attempt to undermine the Constitution by teaching a disguised religious belief as science in public schools.

Please get it straight.

342 protestshooter  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:28:21am

I dont think it's fair to call her a creationist. She has vaguely creationist leanings but doesn't appear to be particularly interested in the issue either way and it's not going to be a focus for her. Given all of her other merits, and the fact that none of the other VP candidates are without flaw, I've thought for a long time that she makes a lot of sense.

343 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:28:23am

re: #281 vbspurs

The reception for John McCain was DEEP and HEARTFELT.

Best meme I heard last night was that John McCain has something to offer this country that all the Hollywood money in the world and special FX can not buy: experience.

344 Archimedes  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:28:24am

McCain isn't focusing on individualism and freedom. He's focusing on "the common good".

345 Shug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:28:24am

Don't forget Palin used to be the Mayor of wasilla alaska.

A community organizer!

346 Rancher  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:28:40am

I love the fact that everyone will be comparing our VP's qualifications to the Dem's Presidential candidate!

347 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:28:49am

RUDY!

348 rawmuse  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:28:51am

re: #333 Ben Hur

Yeah, Bill Burton is much happier with a "community organizer" with daddy issues...

349 Shug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:29:03am

Was Palin a job creationist?

350 Yishai  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:29:03am

Dude, they brought out the whole family, and the baby.

351 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:29:12am

re: #246 Defector01

LISTEN to this ovation McCain's getting
Palin has done wonders already, I can't ever remember such fire in a McCain crowd!

Listen to the enthusiasm. Obama did not get close to this when he announced Biden. And there were so few people there the newsies didn't even show the "crowd."

352 arizona9  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:29:23am

re: #275 de La Valette

1. No ones talking about Obama's speech anymore
2. Does this put the wet side of Washington and Oregon into play?
3. Poor Joe Biden, he has to attack her and look like a cad
4. She may take a few magazine covers from Obama
5. What will be important is how Ferraro and HRC come on this? Its a perfect chance to bury a dagger in Obama's back.

All good points. I want to believe. Really.

353 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:29:31am

I LOVE the intro music!

354 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:29:34am

Palin is married to an Eskimo

She has tackled big projects - and taken on lots of corrupt people.

She's a fighter.

355 Shug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:29:34am

great music

356 Yishai  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:29:41am

Yup, Hilary must be pissed.

357 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:29:43am

Why am i bawling like a baby?

358 mean Gene  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:29:51am

re: #316 Spiny Norman

Spiny, the whole concept of litmus tests is self defeating.
It really has got to stop.
All politics is compromise.
Nobody will perfectly fit someone else's bill.

359 joecitizen  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:29:54am

any Lizards not in tears right about now? the baby did it to me..

360 Eowyn2  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:30:17am

re: #11 MandyManners

I went ballistic when I heard Carl Cameron on Fox when he referred to her as a "girl".

Jimmy carter called Obama a 'black boy" so being called a girl is ligit.

361 phoenixgirl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:30:17am

i thought her husband would look a bit more eskimoey

362 Francisco D'Anconia  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:30:17am

Is it just me or does Sarah Palin look a lot like a slightly older Tina Fey, glasses and all? awesome.

363 yochanan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:30:18am

THIS DUG A HOLE 6 FEET DEEP AND BURIED THE WHOLE BUSH 3 MEME

364 Defector01  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:30:33am

So happy :-D

365 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:30:34am

re: #336 Colonel Panik

Audentes Fortuna Iuvat

Fortune favors the bold

366 rawmuse  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:30:43am

Mother of five is no negative, especially in a state almost as big as Alaska with a population equal to San Francisco.

367 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:30:45am

Note the guy in the hockey shirt!

368 liberalforisrael  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:30:58am

She seems like a good choice, and by making the daring choice of a woman, McCain not only has targeted Hillary voters, but has stolen hussein's thunder the morning after his big coronation. I wonder how that egomaniac is handling the fact that he is not the sole focus of attention today? Go McCain!

369 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:31:00am

I fully expect sexism from the left.

Just like I fully expected bigotry if Mitt was selected.

Watch just how much hypocrisy will be unveiled.

370 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:31:02am

re: #319 looking closely


I'm not.. hate to say this, but were going to have to fight fire with fire. Obama is their race person to vote for (dems) So by picking her, that just blew the race thing OUT the window!

371 SagamoreGal  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:31:08am

"As much as I am NOT a creationist, the origins of the species and life on earth is a non-issue for me. Evolution does not fill my tank, win wars or keep my taxes down."

Double Ditto.

Besides, with sons' names like Track and Trig, you know the lady's got some major-league balls on her (or are these names more normal up in Alaska?)

Drill baby, Drill!

372 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:31:10am

re: #357 MandyManners

I'm getting choked up now too!

373 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:31:12am

Sarah Palin,

/zero TelePrompters

374 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:31:14am
375 looking closely  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:31:14am

Creationist is irrelevant.

Has Palin ever been on the side of putting Creationist dogma in our science classrooms? If the answer is "no", then this issue is closed for me.

If she has, I have a real problem with that, *BUT* its still a question of which TICKET I like better, not whether I agree with all (or even most) of the positions of the candidates.

376 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:31:14am

re: #217 I_Invented_Al_Gore

Leftists think she should have aborted the child with Downs Syndrome. I'm wondering if anyone will be crass enough to say that to her face.

377 arizona9  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:31:23am

Evangelicals are rejoicing

He already had them.

378 vbspurs  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:31:29am

Her voice quavered when she said, "I promise nothing less". Beautiful.

Man, I am in tears.

379 rawmuse  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:31:35am

re: #357 MandyManners

God bless you, dear, if I was there I'd give you a big ol' rawmuse hug!

380 Rancher  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:31:39am

She's a pork buster?

381 anotherindyfilmguy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:31:43am

re: #36 Charles

Ugh. I'm not thrilled.

Sarah Palin is a creationist.

But... but... she's our creationist... no one's perfect... although she is a hottie as well... (and probably has more executive experience than both on the Dem ticket) McCain&MILF vs emptyshirtmessiah&oldblowhard...

382 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:31:50am
383 jcm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:31:54am

re: #138 Dustoff-507

YES, yes & yes.... she is everything McCain isn't.

I feel like dancing. (-:

Dustoff,
You get involved in the Three Fingers rescue?

384 snowcrash  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:31:55am

Getting the phone calls and emails from my friends (45ish yo females) who are just hearing about Palin and are tickled. This is historic too.

385 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:32:00am

I'm listening to the speech on KVI. I think there's a bit of a delay.

386 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:32:01am

It will demand the best I have to give and I promise nothing less....

SP

387 Jinx  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:32:04am

re: #265 mean Gene

Hubby is a Native American Eskimo!
Gotta love that!
Also she walked off of a job in AL AK government (oil related) because the gov was a butt.
Then she ran against him and won in a landslide.
Ha ha ha.
It is going to be great to have my ''feminist'' neighbors not voting for a woman while I do.
AND....what's this?
Do some here have a ''litmus test" about creation as to who they will vote for?
Are you really going to stay home over something that will have no impact on her years in office?

Alaska, not Alabama.

I'm doing more research about her, and I think I might be able to come around to her. But, she has several scandals revolving around her which gives the dems and the left ammunition already. But, then again, if you're in politics and don't have a scandal somewhere, then you're hiding something.

388 Colonel Panik  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:32:16am

re: #361 phoenixgirl

i thought her husband would look a bit more eskimoey

Lot of intermarriage up there since the days of the Russian fur traders.

389 rw in san diego  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:32:21am

re: #357 MandyManners

The baby did me in.

390 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:32:21am

obama's speech was typical unattainable - un-affordable liberal pap.

This is exciting!

391 Eowyn2  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:32:24am

re: #342 protestshooter

I dont think it's fair to call her a creationist. She has vaguely creationist leanings but doesn't appear to be particularly interested in the issue either way and it's not going to be a focus for her. Given all of her other merits, and the fact that none of the other VP candidates are without flaw, I've thought for a long time that she makes a lot of sense.

Its becoming the norm that people who believe in the biblical teachings of creation are "creationists" and therefore want to see all science thrown by the wayside. Except for Ks and a few other minute places, this isnt even an issue.

392 arizona9  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:32:34am

Wo, a pointless observation here but her husband is freaking hot. So, she's got that;)

393 Defector01  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:32:39am

re: #362 Francisco D'Anconia

She's got that hot librarian look :-D

394 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:32:41am

Her husband is a union member- OUCH!

395 Rancher  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:32:57am

I feel I now have a reason to watch the convention.

396 Defector01  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:32:58am

re: #366 rawmuse

but not nearly as annoying as SF's population :-p

397 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:33:09am

re: #338 buzzsawmonkey

What did they say?

#333

398 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:33:13am

Just mentioned oil on the north slope

399 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:33:15am

Good gravy. She's impressive as all get out.

400 Defector01  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:33:29am

son in the US Army? BANK!

401 yochanan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:33:33am

HOOORAH

402 Age Of Freedom  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:33:37am

Her son enlisted.
She's hot.
We've got marvel comics universe here, ladies and chicks.

403 mean Gene  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:33:38am

I love her flag pin.
What's that smaller pin?
It sort of looks like the flag of Israel, but it could be something else.

404 The Shadow Do  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:33:40am

Macho Macho Man

405 Yishai  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:33:40am

Oldest kid is in the Army and will be in Iraq.

Husband member of US Steel Worker's union.

406 rawmuse  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:33:56am

re: #394 Sharmuta

Her husband is a union member- OUCH!

Sometimes you got no choice. Trust me on that one.

407 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:34:00am

Well she's got me!

408 Defector01  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:34:03am

and deployed to Iraq soon? wow, take that michael moore

409 Francisco D'Anconia  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:34:04am

Son enlisted in the army. Awesome

410 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:34:16am

Infantry

totally hard core

infantry!

411 Syrah  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:34:19am

I am OK with this.

I think puts the Obama Campaign on the defensive.

Biden's bloviations will only Make Sarah look better by contrast.


One test. (Not at all scientific.)

Which candidates make you most comfortable? Which ones do you find yourself referring to by their first name instead of their last?

412 Biff  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:34:27am

She is the anti-Obama. Last night is now the shortest news cycle in the history of Presidential politics.

413 CalipHater  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:34:41am

Hottest vice president ever! Should have a profound effect on the coveted cougar vote

414 KimZigfeld  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:34:59am

HOORAY! HE DID IT! EXACTLY RIGHT!

Republicans gave us the first female supreme court justice, the first female national security adviser, and now they will give us the first female vice president, and maybe even president!

The only one of the four candidates with elected executive experience, Palin is FAR more qualified to be the first woman president than Obama to be the first black.

McCain shows just how sharp and serious he is, and has earned the respect and support of every Republican and every female voter.

Now is the time, girls. The power is right there for you, if you want to take it! By voting Palin 08, you can transform the American political landscape forever.

Enough carping, you conservatives. Time to knuckle down and end this Obama nightmare. McCain is truly The One!

415 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:35:01am

re: #304 Charles

What a stupid comment. I have no "silly war on religion," as you would know if you had paid attention to a single thing I've posted on the subject of creationism.

And pretty creepy, too.

416 Archimedes  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:35:05am

I love the genuine pro-Americanism of the crowd.

417 Shug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:35:14am

High fiving myself since nobody is with me

418 devil in baggy pants  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:35:15am

Army son...

HUA, my brother!

419 kuffar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:35:16am

Good god. I am a little choked up...

420 Rancher  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:35:27am

Why isn't ______'s kids fighting this war?

Hers is.

421 jcm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:35:31am

Real cheers for the Army, not the half stuff at the DNCC.

Both on the (R) ticket will have kids who put it on the line in Iraq.

422 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:35:38am

Baby born in april

the greatest opportunities come unexpectedly

working with our hands GOOD

423 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:35:40am

The family looks a lot like the families whose kids attend The Kid's school. I know this woman.

424 rw in san diego  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:35:42am

I know I'm biased, but this is so much more what I expect from an American political than the Biden announcement. Real Americans.

425 anotherindyfilmguy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:35:46am

Prediction:
No nonsense/no guff taking Alaskan wipes walls with both Biden and Obamassieh in debates/electioneering... McCain brings bucket brigade to clean up the blood afterwards...

Just have a feeling there's a bunch of people in the Obamassiahs camp wetting themselves as they watch this...

426 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:35:48am

God, this is brilliant. A working mom, with a union husband.

And she's on OUR ticket. I'm so proud to be a Republican woman today.

Mandy- pass the tissues.

427 Shug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:35:48am

F-d up names though

428 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:35:56am

She just admitted that she's not a political social climber.

429 Defector01  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:36:12am

I'm loving her speech, if that isn't just down home American soccer mom and american dream, I don't know what is

430 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:36:12am

re: #316 Spiny Norman

It's not just some here. It is the Republican base. If you can't hold your base (and get it to turn out), you can't win the Presidency. Palin is an excellent choice for the base. Those clingy people Obama dispises so much.

431 looking closely  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:36:13am

re: #370 Dustoff-507

I'm not.. hate to say this, but were going to have to fight fire with fire. Obama is their race person to vote for (dems) So by picking her, that just blew the race thing OUT the window!


Again, this hasn't cost McCain my vote.

Strategically, (ie in terms of winning the election), Palin may be a good choice. . .she may not. I see the rationale behind the choice, but its definitely a gamble and its effectiveness remains to be seen.

I'm just saying that not only is Palin not the best choice in terms of credentials (though she could be worse, I guess), she's doesn't even meet McCain's own stated criteria for a pick.

432 jcm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:36:18am

re: #420 Rancher

Why isn't ______'s kids fighting this war?

Hers is.

So is McCain's.

433 snowcrash  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:36:21am

She has a lovely common touch. Obama must be cringing or crying?

434 devil in baggy pants  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:36:36am

SHE IS THE AMERICAN DREAM!

Coming through the ranks starting with the fricking PTA...

brilliant pick!

435 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:36:36am

She's taken on the GOB!

I think I'm in love.

436 Shug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:36:41am

Hockey Moms unite

437 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:36:52am

Liberal balls are shriveling all over the US.

438 vbspurs  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:37:20am

re: #405 Yishai

Oldest kid is in the Army and will be in Iraq.

Husband member of US Steel Worker's union.

This election is OVER. What a pick.

439 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:37:22am

Governor of a state almost as big as the tiny state of Iran.

Ironically symbolic.

440 Mike in Boulder  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:37:24am

Sara Palin/Tina Fey, separated at birth?

441 Blastforth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:37:27am

I hope I'm wrong in thinking this is a terrible pick.

442 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:37:28am

Say hello to the first woman president

443 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:37:31am

re: #375 looking closely

I'm sure if she had... the LA times would have it cover to cover.

444 Dizzy26  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:37:32am

WOW.......Just try to match this Obamamyass!

What credentials, what qualifications what class, what a choice.

A tax cutting, oil drilling, hip shooting hottie!

Way to go Johnny Mc. !

445 RedinLa  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:37:37am

OK, I was listening to some guy from Politico on one of the local LA radio stations. Sorry, I didn't get the name as I was too busy screaming at the illegal alien construction workers blocking the intersection. Anyway, to paraphrase he said that Palin had less experience than Obama. I'm stunned as I didn't realize Obama had ANY political experience. Also, do some research before you get on the air. You may be surprised.

446 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:37:39am
447 Alberta Oil Peon  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:37:41am

re: #231 Occasional Reader

I'm concerned that the "lack of experience" thing blunts one of McCain's best offensive weapons in this campaign. McCain says "Obama lacks experience"; Obama says "your VP lacks experience"; there's mutual assured destruction, of sorts. And that works in Obama's favor, since he's more than happy to let the "experience" question fade out from the race.

And the creationism thing ain't exactly making me happy either.

On the plus side, she seems soundly conservative, and apparently has done a good job as governor.

You have to remember, the job of VP is about as close to an official do-nothing job as exists. Several former VPs have said as much. Experience is not really a requirement, certainly not to the extent that it is for the job of President. And Sarah Palin does have actual executive experience in two levels of government. Obama has been a senator whose major accomplishments appear to be comprised of voting "present" and cashing his pay check.

448 Shug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:37:42am

re: #437 DistantThunder

Liberal balls are shriveling all over the US.

already shriveled years ago

449 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:37:46am

With five kids, dealing with the GOB in Alaska, Palin is gonna' give Biden a run for his money.

450 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:37:48am

Palin in '12!

451 snowcrash  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:37:58am

re: #426 Sharmuta
Sharm pass them this way too. I am so proud. Can't wait to tell my daughter.

452 bikeguy65  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:37:58am

I was SO looking forward to the debate between Joe Biden's hair and Romney's hair. Romney was going to kill him! I would have been happy with Romney but there was the Mormon issue. I am in MA so I am very familiar with him and have met him personally. I think Palin is an excellent choice and certainly makes the ticket MUCH more attractive. I hopes she kicks some ass out there! I don't think the Messiah has a snowball's chance in hell, now. I didn't think he had a chance before though either. I tell all the Obama supporters when he loses, it won't be because he is black as they will say, it will be because he is RED! It will also take the sails out of the Obamaship this week.

453 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:00am

I like the way she speaks. Articulate and authentic-sounding at the same time, no mean feat. She has a middle-America sounding accent, which the Lib elite will mock; so much the worse for them.

454 arizona9  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:05am

God, she's good. Impressed. Did I mention her husband is hot?

455 Tigger2005  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:07am

I'm not going to complain about this pick. I'm not going to analyze it to death. I'm going to support it enthusiastically and wholeheartedly. Really, people, what is the alternative? No candidate is perfect, no P/VP ticket is perfect. But Obama absolutely must not become POTUS. No way, no how.

456 anotherindyfilmguy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:13am

Bumper sticker should be:

John and Sarah: 2008/2012

457 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:18am

re: #431 looking closely


OK, then. Give me someone else.

458 ElKafir  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:20am

John McCain, you old fox!.... With this choice you re-energized the conservatives, the tens of millions of NRA members, the frustrated Hillary supporters and got yourself into the White House.
Congratulations, you couldn't have made a better choice.

459 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:22am

re: #433 snowcrash

She has a lovely common touch. Obama must be cringing or crying?

while Obama is just common.

460 jcm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:26am

She sounds like a good natural public speaker....
Doesn't sound like she's reading.

461 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:29am

serve for the right reasons!
*rimshot*

462 The Shadow Do  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:30am

Scrappy ain't she?

463 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:30am

re: #446 buzzsawmonkey

"GOB"?

Good Old Boys.

464 mean Gene  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:35am

re: #412 Biff

She is the anti-Obama. Last night is now the shortest news cycle in the history of Presidential politics.

He he he.
I think you're right.

465 Shug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:37am

Thanks but No thanks on that bridge to nowhere

466 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:39am

re: #437 DistantThunder

Liberal balls are shriveling all over the US.

With the exception of Scrotum Guy, whose are probably exploding...

467 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:43am

I did not get into governmnet to do the safe and easy thing.

468 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:45am

re: #357 MandyManners

Why am i bawling like a baby?

I'm verklempt too.
It's kind of shocking to see a Republican make a good choice.

469 yochanan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:52am

I ♥ PALIN

470 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:38:54am

Will Bon Jovi perform?

/need to get my money's worth

471 GOPninja  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:39:09am

great, the left is already eviscerating us:

Palin: "[A]s for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the V.P. does every day? I’m used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that V.P .slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question."

wtfwtfwtfwtfwtf

472 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:39:16am

re: #426 Sharmuta

God, this is brilliant. A working mom, with a union husband.

And she's on OUR ticket. I'm so proud to be a Republican woman today.

Mandy- pass the tissues.

I've run out.

473 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:39:26am

re: #462 The Shadow Do

Scrappy ain't she?

Her nickname is the Baracuda

474 Salem  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:39:28am

Strategically, this was a better choice than Romney, whose religion is always going to be an issue. She is such a better choice than Lieberman that it's not even funny.

475 Shug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 9:39:28am