I feel like I'm at Macy's with all these new threads.

I'm happy.

Go Sarah!

Welcome Hillary Supporters

/McCain

MCCAIN/PALIN 2008!

a super pick, a team to vote for

very exciting!

A bold choice. About as much foreign policy experience as Obama, and more executive experience than the other three candidates combined.

Very interesting.

I went ballistic when I heard Carl Cameron on Fox when he referred to her as a "girl".

At least people are talking.

People could have been saying, Ugh...not him.

How does the head Lizard feel about this?

/seriously

John McCain leads from the front.

A solid choice. It pumps the base; attacks Democrat weaknesses, and the best thing the Democrats can claim is that she's not experienced enough, which only brings more attention to the fact that Obama has even less - and no achievements to his name.

I can't wait to fluster my feminist friends by bragging I get to vote for a woman!

Good pick.

now when i vote for mccain, i won't have to bring my vomit bucket

awful pick. She is a CREATIONIST.

re: #11 MandyManners

I went ballistic when I heard Carl Cameron on Fox when he referred to her as a "girl".

And he kept getting her name wrong. I wonder why his producers weren't screaming,"It's SARAH not SUSAN" into his ear.

Did Rove just refer to a potential scandal as a "nothing burger"?

I thought it was going to be Liberman there for a minute.

Rove, you magnificant bastard!

Pro-life/2nd amendment/borders/war on terror/security...

Goodbye Osama bin Biden.

I am so effing stoked I can't stand it.

Her nickname when she played High School Basketball-Guard- was "Baracuda". When she entered politics she got the nickname back! Apparently she is a tough old gal! Good for her. Bring the Democrates on!

also currently under investigation. wtf is going on here?

re: #22 MandyManners

What's the potential scandal?

re: #21 txcamper

And he kept getting her name wrong. I wonder why his producers weren't screaming,"It's SARAH not SUSAN" into his ear.

I wanted to whack him with my clue-by-four.

re: #16 lawhawk

A solid choice. It pumps the base; attacks Democrat weaknesses, and the best thing the Democrats can claim is that she's not experienced enough, which only brings more attention to the fact that Obama has even less - and no achievements to his name.

exacamatacily. brilliant pick, IMO.

re: #20 gopninja

awful pick. She is a CREATIONIST.

/linky?

I wanted Romney but I am equally enthusiastic about Sarah. This really ramps up the excitement level. I'm just sorry that I'm going to be away from the media for the weekend. I'll have to play catchup when I get back.

Clinton supporters will come over to the light in truck-loads now

I can't wait for the Democrats to argue that she lacks the qualifications to be president since she only has two years experience Running a state.

at that point McCain says, she has at least the same qualifications, and both are qualified to be vice President

This is a borderline shocker. She's got all of the tools and an interesting story, but tossing her into a national campaign without national experience comes with a high, high risk factory.

Question - Does this mean Mac can be persuaded to drill in ANWAR?

Ugh. I'm not thrilled.

Sarah Palin is a creationist.

re: #28 rw in san diego

What's the potential scandal?

Something about the state troopers and her sister being married to someone.

Sheesh
Again from the previous previous thread lol

Front paged on kos by kos:

Let's be honest: John McCain clearly wanted Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman, but he was afraid to buck his party's choice ideologues. So then they looked at Mittens, but having a baker's dozen homes wasn't looking so hot. So he figured that with Pawlenty, he might make a play for Minnesota, but that got shot down over the last week as it become increasingly obvious that Biden would wipe the floor with him in their debate.

Throw in Obama's ground-shifting speech last night, and it was clear that McCain had to throw a hail mary to just remain in the game, much less be competitive.

So we get Sarah Palin, who has a fairly compelling personal story and is an attractive woman, but has scant political experience, zero name recognition outside of political junky circles, faces an ethical investigation by her own legislature, and will now be forced to run a grueling national campaign despite having an infant child at home.

Those are the marks of desperation, and really, given his precarious electoral position, John McCain had no choice

Good choice on McCain's part. Gives his ticket a nice blend of youth and experience, and Palin's honesty and conservative credentials are above reproach.

re: #27 gopninja

she will be cleared once the facts are brought forward

I like I like.......3....2....1 Obama supporters are calling her too inexperienced.....that is the something calling the something something!

Typically McCain--a maverick pick for a guy who likes to surprise people--

Hillary lovers... come on over!

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

re: #23 Lively

I thought it was going to be Liberman there for a minute.

/not a chance in two hells

Ferraro--First woman nominated to be VP

Palin--First woman nominated who actually has a chance to be VP

This should have the Dems scrambling at least.

re: #33 boatguyjim

Clinton supporters will come over to the light in truck-loads now

For sure? They're mostly pro-choice.

This gives the Republican ticket a chance to rebrand itself as a reform ticket and put deficit spending, earmarks and corruption behind it. The dynamics of this race have changed at the presidential level and may have changed at the congressional level as well.

ballsy choice (so to speak)...if your a poker player,the senator just went 'all in' with a 7-2 off-suit...now if he only appoints John Bolton as sec.state we'll be cruisin'...

Palin. Yes! She and Romney were always at the top of my short list.

Eggggssssseeeeelllllent.

I love the smell of moonbat heads exploding in the morning.

It smells like victory.

Great!

After what happened to Hillary at the Dem convention, this immunizes half of the Rep ticket from most attacks or the Dems lose a lot of female support. It might also torpedo Hillary's political future depending on her conduct during this campaign. If she shows anger at being cut out of the first presedential ticket with a woman on it, shes done.

My first choice was Romney, but Palin will do nicely. Every time the media mentions lack of experience it will only underscore the disaster that is Obama..lol. And GOPers can point to the experience at the top of the tiicket where it matters most!

Hooray, it is not Huckabee!

While I understand why she was picked, I think it will backfire....

re: #11 MandyManners

I went ballistic when I heard Carl Cameron on Fox when he referred to her as a "girl".

Did anyone else notice in an interview with Jimmah Carter calling Barry Hussein a "black boy"... Was on Rush (yesterday?).. Rush was considering doing the same to see if there would be an outrage at him.. heh

Great choice for McCain.. I would have picked her right after FRED!

re: #17 Sharmuta

I can't wait to fluster my feminist friends by bragging I get to vote for a woman!

I'm just imagining my moonbat sister's reaction. She was a Hillary gal for the sole reason that Hillary was, well, female.

It's amazing how - even with her fairly thin resume - she is more qualified, in terms of experience, than the Dem presidential candidate!

Also, let's note the timing on this. ("Barack who"?...)

You gotta love her!

re: #20 gopninja

awful pick. She is a CREATIONIST.

chew me.

August 29, 2008
Dem Platform is for Whiners
By Robert Robb

...

The soul of the Democratic philosophy is summed up in this passage from the platform: "For decades, Americans have been told to act for ourselves, by ourselves, on our own. Democrats reject this recipe for division and failure."

...

This is just incredible. This should be spread far and wide. This is a rejection of the very foundations of this country.

If this is a recipe for "division and failure," why has America been one of the most stable and economically successful countries on Earth for decades?

I am very pleased about this.

re: #44 Charles

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

No big deal

I'm really afraid McCain just lost.

Hillary lovers... come on over!

Hillary lovers will never support Palin.

re: #44 Charles

It's a valid concern, and a drawback; but as long as she doesn't try to force creationism into policy -- i.e., maintains separation between church and state -- not a deal killer.

I love this choice! I'm thrilled!
Finally a reason to get excited about this ticket

Charles,
I'm not happy about her being a creationist either but frankly that's a small price to pay

Does anyone know anything about the woman? I have come to have a very good opinion of Sen. McCain's character lately, and think that there may be some good judgment there as well, so his choosing Gov. Palin as a running mate speaks in her favor. But what about concrete information?

re: #20 gopninja

awful pick. She is a CREATIONIST.

The new litmus test.

This is a VERY painful pick for Obama.

Well, she has the freedom to believe what she wants...As long as she doesn't push it on the rest of us.

re: #44 Charles

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

i love that she is married to an eskimo!

Watch the McCain announcement LIVE:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

re: #23 Lively

That would have been a disaster. McCain would have lost the Presidency with that pick. This is a brilliant pick. It defuses Obama's "historicness", and mollifies the base. That latter is critical. As I've said before, the art of winning the Presidential election is to hold your base, and appeal to moderates. McCain does the "appeal to moderates" thing quite well, too well, in fact to hold the base by himself. Palin will hold the base, and appeal to those who wanted to vote for Hillary! because of her second X chromosome.

Well done. I didn't think McCain would do this. I am pleasantly surprised.

Don't know much about her, but from what I'm quickly reading, what an incredible pick.

To all those PUMA's - COME ON DOWN to McCain/Palin.

Sorry HRC, you should have been a Republican.....all that work setting yourself up for 2012 down the drain.....

re: #38 Typicalwhitey

Translation: Oh we are in so much trouble! :-D

hillary must be PISSED!

re: #44 Charles

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

As much as I am NOT a creationist, the origins of the species and life on earth is a non-issue for me. Evolution does not fill my tank, win wars or keep my taxes down.

re: #36 Charles

Ugh. I'm not thrilled.

Sarah Palin is a creationist.

Say it ain't so!

Well, we've had a lot of Creationist presidents, and it didn't kill us.

re: #44 Charles

Well, that's a bummer.

However, the rest of it looks good. Maybe she won't bring up creationism.

re: #63 arizona9

I'm really afraid McCain just lost.

Hillary lovers... come on over!

Hillary lovers will never support Palin.

You don't need all of them.
But you might get enough of them to make the difference in a close race.

re: #36 Charles

Ugh. I'm not thrilled.

Sarah Palin is a creationist.

And.. the problem is?....

Give me a break people. Who cares if she is a creationist. We're talking about being VP and helping to take on Islamic-fascism. If the fact that she is a creationist will make you be disappointed, then all you are doing is showing your religious zeal for evolution and nothing more. Tell me, is that religion that important to you?

This news has got the women in my plant dancing a jig. I also noticed that Palin is pulling 70 % positive vote at the TMZ on line poll. I don't know much about Palin but so far it seems the McCain campaign has knocked it for a long one.

re: #33 boatguyjim

Clinton supporters will come over to the light in truck-loads now

I checked out some PUMA sites..They seem to really like the pick..
/welcome Clinton supporters!

re: #37 MandyManners

Something about the state troopers and her sister being married to someone.

I think her ex brother in law was a State Trooper, and there are allegations that she got him fired.

re: #20 gopninja

What's your source?

I don't know much about her but she is certainly easier on the eyes than Joe Biden.

Is it good? 'Hope' that sucks out all the Hilary votes from BHO.

re: #48 MandyManners

For sure? They're mostly pro-choice.

Yes, I am not convinced that women are going to just knee-jerk vote for a ticket based solely on a female presence.

That would be sexist.

Of course, I am kind of happy to be able to call ALL Dhimmi voters sexists this season. Makes up for me being so racist and all by refusing to vote for a Marxist empty suit and a windbag.

Charles, I'm not crazy about the creationist angle either...it turned me off Bobby Jindal quite a bit. But I don't think it will get anywhere. McCain is not a creationist, and frankly I think this is an issue Presidents and veeps would rather stay away from.

re: #77 Optimizer

Say it ain't so!

Well, we've had a lot of Creationist presidents, and it didn't kill us.

It ain't so.

re: #62 Nevergiveup

No big deal

exactly. almost completely irrelevant.

Whatever thunder obama had last night is gone. Utterly gone.

As for her creationist beliefs (if true), we can not allow the good become the victim of the perfect. In American politics, the only truism is that no one gets every single thing that they want.

re: #1 Lively

I feel like I'm at Macy's with all these new threads.

As in they take a long time to load, and the hamsters aren't providing the service we want?

as my late father, may the perpetual light shine upon him, would say,"I'M SO HAPPY I'M DANCING!"

re: #44 Charles

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

In an interview Thursday, Palin said she meant only to say that discussion of alternative views should be allowed to arise in Alaska classrooms:

"I don't think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class. It doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."

She added that, if elected, she would not push the state Board of Education to add such creation-based alternatives to the state's required curriculum.

/not a threat

She's a creationist? I'm really scared now.

btw, This is a very shrewd and genius move by McCain. Smells like a Rove move.

If the Dems try to cut her down by her lack of experience....

Too young? Same silence...

And McCain was getting flak for being to Centrist on many issues. Palin shores up his right constituency.

Awesome move.

An amazing pick. I did not think McCain had the wisdom to make such an obviously fantastic choice. Finally, a conservative in this race that can energize this base. They'll be getting money now from me and the wife. Obama's goose is officially cooked in my estimation. So refreshing to wake up to news like this after months of fighting off slight feelings of nausea when looking at the choices available. McCain/Palin... all the way now. And you want a good look at the first female President of the US? Take a good long look at Sarah and smile big.

I don't care if she is a creationist. I am sure many of her positions are different from mine.

Good pick.

She is attractive, conservative, a sports fan, a reasonable environmentalist who favors drilling in Alaska, pro 2nd amendment and a hunter. I think she can show that environmentalism and additional energy production are not mutually exclusive.

I like it.

Her husband is a oil field operator.....what a refreshing change from lawyers on lawyers.....a real blue collar guy and in the oil bidness....

Foxnews is gushing.
CNN is towing the Obama line. A commenter on the Corner said that the MSM will turn Palin into the new Kathleen Harris. CNN is getting a head start.

Great pick, easy win for mccain

re: #44 Charles

She added that, if elected, she would not push the state Board of Education to add such creation-based alternatives to the state's required curriculum.

Bummer.

re: #36 Charles

So are a large percentage of the GOP base. Probably a majority, if you really get them to think about it. It is not an issue that is on most people's front burner.

re: #36 Charles

Accepting that I think the critical point is whether she believes that she can use the state to impose those views on it's citizens.

Maybe they can get Ferraro's endorsement?

From this mother in regards to another (Palin)!
I personally think it's GREAT!
It will revitalize the Republican party...put a much needed new face on it.
It's going to take away media coverage from Obama...take the steam out of his sails.
We will be able to learn about Palin in the next months....again, great for the media angle!
It will attract that 'older women' category to the voting booths....with votes for Palin.
And from what I see, once people get to know Palin, they will vote wholeheartedly for McCain...instead of holding their noses!
And in 2012.....what about Palin for President!
All along we thought Hillary would be the first woman president......today this pick changes everything!
And along with Palin as President.....let's put Allen West in as VP......first black VP in history! ....then on to President! The first conservative, black Republican for President! Take that Obama! Slam dunk!

re: #103 txcamper

Oh please CNN go after her like that - prove you're so in the tank for Obama that you'll rip a woman to shreds like that.

re: #76 SpartanWoman

As much as I am NOT a creationist, the origins of the species and life on earth is a non-issue for me. Evolution does not fill my tank, win wars or keep my taxes down.

Well, technically it COULD, since we won't stay an economically powerful or scientifically advanced nation forever with a population that doesn't understand basic science.

re: #46 Shug

Ferraro--First woman nominated to be VP

Palin--First woman nominated who actually has a chance to be VP

Hmmm... I despise "identity politics", but reality is reality. Let's count now. How many biracial people in America? Now...how many women? Dems were never good at math!

Great pick! You go, girl!
I had no idea that 'creationist' was the new litmus test. For crying out loud, get over it!

re: #107 unclassifiable

Ooooops.

I now see up it up thread.

Go ahead -- ding me down.

re: #48 MandyManners
Yes they are But they
1. Want the O man to lose so Clinton can run in 4 years
2. If they have to vote Republican, it's easier now that they are voting for a woman on the ticket

YeeeHaw - take that Slow Joe!

re: #96 Killian Bundy

Okay, that's a relief. She recognizes the separation of church and state and maintains it. I don't think we need to be worried unless it comes up again.

Love it...love it...LOVE IT!

This will deflate, a bit, the preposterously inflated Obama balloon.

I have become so, so, so, sick of hearing the name, and seeing the face, of Obama, that any other new name sounds good to me.

And she's a BABE!

Her position on creationism is at least not as extreme as Bobby Jindal's, and there's no evidence she believes in exorcism, so she has that going for her.

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

This will make the swimwear competition at the VP debate VERY interesting.

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Bummer.

WHAT?

Did you miss the "not", or am I stoned?

If I'm stoned, why am I not having more fun?

/

said that the MSM will turn Palin into the new Kathleen Harris

That's EXACTLY what they will do. They're already doing it. They're already discussing the fact she's under investigation.

Are people on this cite SERIOUSLY opposing Sarah Palin for the SOLE REASON that she's a creationist? Is this turning into the LGF litmus test?

Wow! 1 hour to get on LGF! Drudge was down until a moment ago too. WHAT A DAY.

Those of you who are interested in hearing Governor Palin, can catch her on Craig Ferguson here.

For this Brit, she has a wonderfully pleasant, Middle America kind of accent. A bit like Hillary, but more genuine. I love everything about her, ever since I posted about her, 4 months back. HUGS TO ALL!

re: #63 arizona9

I'm really afraid McCain just lost.

Hillary lovers... come on over!

Hillary lovers will never support Palin.

I guess I am married to the exception to your rule.

This would explain why they're adding the so-called global warming/greenhouse gas plank to the republican stance.

It'll help against the lie that McCain is just another big oil person as she's fought against the big oil while going for energy independence.

I'm not really surprised. I was hoping for Mitt, but McCain wants to lure from the democrat party. Maverick indeed.

The question is now, will the republican party hold together now that the presumptive leader of the republican party isn't interested in thoroughly courting the conservative side?

Excellent inspired choice! So glad he didn't pick a safe slick suit like Pawlenty or Romney. This works on so many levels; women, younger than Obama, ANWR, working families, son in Iraq, Washington outsider, etc.

re: #20 gopninja

awful pick. She is a CREATIONIST.

Hey, I am a creationist/evolutionist

There is no contradictions with creationism and evolution except for the purpose-built versus the accidental aspects concerning why life as we know it happens to be at all. I am no accident.

Obama campaign is saying that Palin who will Be a heart beat away from the presidency has NO experience. Hum now who is it that is actually running for President that has NO, Absolutely NO, foreign policy experience. Now who is that?

re: #121 wccawa

oh dear G-d I don't wanna see Biden in a frakking swimsuit!

Note to Palin: Ixnay on the frosted lipstick.

Wow! What a pick. Brilliant!

jeez, when are McCain & Palin going to come out already?

re: #84 rabidsquirrel

Her aids persuaded the powers that be to fire him because he was beating her sister. Gonna be hard to spin that into a negative.

Come November, weeping Oprah better get her false eyelashes surgically attached.

Meanwhile, Sarah has been cleaning up Alaska, such as strongly opposing Ted Steven's Bridge To Nowhere. She's a genuine reformer with no patience for the political cesspool.

re: #36 Charles

Ugh. I'm not thrilled.

Sarah Palin is a creationist.

I don't see anything wrong with someone who has a religious conviction. This is a bogus litmus test.

YES, yes & yes.... she is everything McCain isn't.

I feel like dancing. (-:

re: #111 Tigger2005

Well, technically it COULD, since we won't stay an economically powerful or scientifically advanced nation forever with a population that doesn't understand basic science.

Rubbish. The origin of life is an esoteric debate at best and has squat to do with oil exploration or taxation. A big non-issue, far below the economy, energy, war and peace, fairness doctrine, health care.

re: #107 unclassifiable

Accepting that I think the critical point is whether she believes that she can use the state to impose those views on it's citizens.

She said she would not

re: #120 Charles

Her position on creationism is at least not as extreme as Bobby Jindal's, and there's no evidence she believes in exorcism, so she has that going for her.

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

But she has actual executive experience, whereas obama has none. They can't attack her for it, it reflects on obama.

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Bummer.

/how is that a bummer?

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

That's how I see it. They just tossed on of their best arguments off the table.

Naughty Alaskan librarian

re: #113 Cygnus

Great pick! You go, girl!
I had no idea that 'creationist' was the new litmus test. For crying out loud, get over it!

You'd better get used to it, because I'm not going to "get over it."

And this is not a litmus test for me. But it is a problem, and a serious one.

re: #120 Charles

Respectfully, I think executive experience trumps legislative experience in most people's minds. There are too many senators in this race as it is.

re: #121 wccawa

This will make the swimwear competition at the VP debate VERY interesting.

Bikini vs. Speedos? Better stock up on eye bleach.

re: #88 OldLineTexan

Yes, I am not convinced that women are going to just knee-jerk vote for a ticket based solely on a female presence.

That would be sexist.

Of course, I am kind of happy to be able to call ALL Dhimmi voters sexists this season. Makes up for me being so racist and all by refusing to vote for a Marxist empty suit and a windbag.

I heard a woman say she was going to vote for Hillary in the primary because she was a woman. It's sexist, and not very bright, but remember that half the voters are of below-average intelligence (by definition).

re: #36 Charles

Ugh. I'm not thrilled.

Sarah Palin is a creationist.

That's your main litmus test?!

re: #120 Charles

Her position on creationism is at least not as extreme as Bobby Jindal's, and there's no evidence she believes in exorcism, so she has that going for her.

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

IMHO being a governer, with real operational authority greatly trumps senate experience. I would put it at 3:1 so her three years as governer equals nine years as a senator.

Shut UP!
Hanging up my prediction shoes.
She's great, but Karl is not happy, so I am not sure.

re: #120 Charles

She has even less experience than Obama.

/how do you figure that?

Brilliant choice --I didn't think Mc Cain had it in him.

re: #130 Nevergiveup

Obama campaign is saying that Palin who will Be a heart beat away from the presidency has NO experience. Hum now who is it that is actually running for President that has NO, Absolutely NO, foreign policy experience. Now who is that?

Hey! The Democrat is running is a former community organizer! In the Saul Alinsky case nonetheless.

re: #124 Defector01

Are people on this cite SERIOUSLY opposing Sarah Palin for the SOLE REASON that she's a creationist? Is this turning into the LGF litmus test?

I'm not. I like the pick. She evidently does not believe in using the State to force this view into science classrooms.

re: #84 rabidsquirrel

I think her ex brother in law was a State Trooper, and there are allegations that she got him fired.

I also hear the BIL was beating his sister, which is why Palin came after him.
I got no symp for physical abusers.

re: #36 Charles

Ugh. I'm not thrilled.

Sarah Palin is a creationist.

I can forgive it as long as it it not pushed on us. I rather like the fact she strove to clean up her own city's government, and then the Alaska state government.

Ditto for my own Lt. Governor, Pat Quinn. He's a Dem, a liberal, but I like him because he strives to clean up Illinois government inspite of Blagojevich, Ryan, and Daley.

re: #120 Charles

At least she has executive experience.. where Barry Hussein has never run anything in his life..

re: #124 Defector01

Are people on this cite SERIOUSLY opposing Sarah Palin for the SOLE REASON that she's a creationist? Is this turning into the LGF litmus test?

No, it just doesn't freaking help. That issue alone could fill hours upon hours of cable tv. I'm worried about the ol' VP motto...do no harm.

Her enemies, and they really hate her guts, in both parties are the business as usual, corruptocrats and we work for government so you can't fire us crowd. They will desperately try to smear her because she threatens the root of the tree for hacks in either party. A standadard get along to go along politician, like Biden or Ridge (one for either party) may have disagreements but they are not seen as dangerous. McCain/Palin threatens real change, expect torrents of slime to be thrown at them.

I'm stoked. What an incredible election year!

mac :]

re: #143 arizona9

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

That's how I see it. They just tossed on of their best arguments off the table.

No. She has at least as much experience as Obama. Probably MORE. She actually has 2 years of executive experience. If Obama wants to have this argument and he is running for President. Bring it on!

Just heard a middle aged gal talking to two other middle aged gals in my liberal liberal area; 'Did you hear who McCain picked, Sarah Palin, Governer of aAlaska, she's 44... has kids... knows nothing...It's a Dan Quale Moment.'

Feh.

re: #120 Charles

Her position on creationism is at least not as extreme as Bobby Jindal's, and there's no evidence she believes in exorcism, so she has that going for her.

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

And every time the obots mention this it will highlight the inexperienced TOP of the dem ticket...lol

This beautiful choice is going to frost the turban off Osama Bin Obama Ladin,
I mean, being a female and all.

re: #152 Killian Bundy

/how do you figure that?

She's been a governor for less than half the time Obama's been a senator, for starters.

re: #120 Charles

Disagree, Charles. The more the issue of "inexperience" is brought up in regards to SP, the more that particular light is amplified directly onto BHO.

At least that's the way I see it. But it's early in the game.

She is accused of trying to get a state trooper fired. He was her brother in law and abusive. He tasered their child.

re: #156 rawmuse

"beating THE sister" PIMF

re: #148 Optimizer

I heard a woman say she was going to vote for Hillary in the primary because she was a woman. It's sexist, and not very bright, but remember that half the voters are of below-average intelligence (by definition).

Yup, let's see if those women who were voting for Hillary simply for a woman will vote for Palin?

Reposted form the DT:

On the negative side, McCain just threw away his best argument: that the Obamarama lacks leadership experience. They have absolutely no room to complain now. Besides, many are going to see this as deliberately pandering to disgruntled Hillary supporters, and the Media talking heads will play that up for all it's worth.

I agree with Krauthammer: this is a very risky move.

And by the way, I am NOT a "pro-gun control metrocon".

Obama handed McCain a long list of points for rebuttal in his speech last night. If the "experience issue" is off the table so be it, there are plenty of other issues.

That giant sucking sound you here is the wind being taken out of the Obamasiah's campaign.

_{Convention. Someone had a convention, . . . gave a speech about what?}

It's Sarah Palin!

She has 5 years of executive experience- that's more than obama or biden can say.

I think it's good because the left with trash her - which will backfire.

The creationist thing is Minute in the big picture of things.

re: #145 Charles

You'd better get used to it, because I'm not going to "get over it."

And this is not a litmus test for me. But it is a problem, and a serious one.

How much influence can a VP have over the national debate?

Excellent! Great pick!

Very happy to see McCain on the offensive, rather than just attack, he's going for some substance, and Palin is red meat for the base.

McCain I can't love. He's too far to the center.
McCain/Palin I can get behind.

Besides, think what this does for Clinton 2012 ... (big evil grin)

Mew

re: #135 ljmw

Her aids persuaded the powers that be to fire him because he was beating her sister. Gonna be hard to spin that into a negative.

And yet, the Democratic propoganda machine will give it the 'ol college try.

Could have been infinitely worse.

/could have been Huckabee

re: #145 Charles

You'd better get used to it, because I'm not going to "get over it."

And this is not a litmus test for me. But it is a problem, and a serious one.

She made a comment off hand that she sees no problem with it being discussed and she is NOT in favor of any state mandate to teach it in public schools. Then she said she believed in G-D. That is not so out of line.

re: #159 arizona9

this is about the ONLY bad thing about her, i don't care about that especially as a VP. We've been rotating between horror and hope between Joe Lieberman/Tom Ridge and Mitt Romney, and this is the bloody complaint? She believes in creationism? Look I don't back that stuff at all but what she brings on one side of the scale and creationism is on the other, then it so doesn't matter.

re: #55 grahamski

I don't think so. Her "negative" is experience, but every time the Obama campaign mentions it, 'Pot calling kettle black' will come to mind.

re: #166 Charles

She's been a governor for less than half the time Obama's been a senator, for starters.

And he has done what as Senator?

Almost went into withdrawal this morning trying to log in, finally made it!

Awesome! What a choice! McCain is a sly old fox, what a way to stand the media on its collective heads, and just before a 3 day weekend. This is really gonna PO the Obama crowd, and any attacks on Sarah are going to have interesting repercussions with the Womens vote. OK, I'm finally getting excited now, and may even drag out the checkbook again. Kudos to McCain's advisor's, they done good!

re: #44 Charles

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

Could be worse.

To all those who are over reacting to the creationist "label" already given to VP nominee Palin...if you are looking for the perfect conservative choice, good luck, there is no perfect choice. She is a great pick imo.

re: #120 Charles

Her position on creationism is at least not as extreme as Bobby Jindal's, and there's no evidence she believes in exorcism, so she has that going for her.

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

Obama has a lot less experience than she does. Obama has never won re-election to an office. Palin has, as council member, then as mayor. Mayor counts as a lot more executive experience in my book than "community organizer". She's also a governor right now, not a Senator.

Another note to Palin: lose the bun.

re: #166 Charles

She's been a governor for less than half the time Obama's been a senator, for starters.

And how much of Obama's experience in the Senate counts? He has zero accomplishment. I expect the Republicans to highlight the fact going into September.

I think McCain's finally arrived.

re: #62 Nevergiveup

No big deal

In this case, I agree. Reading the link, it appears to me that she isn't any kind of hard-core Discovery Institute style creationist. Sounds more like she was playing politics, trying to be all things to all people.

/not that that ever happens

re: #168 hilchar

She is accused of trying to get a state trooper fired. He was her brother in law and abusive. He tasered their child.

/and buried the child in her neighbors backyard, on th QT

People...may I remind you...this is the VICE PRESIDENT. Holy crap.

Sarah Palin has more "executive experience" than Obama AND Biden put together.

re: #36 Charles

She is entitled to her opinion as are we all; if she respects other's opinions in this area, fine with me.

So she is a creationist, hardly a deal breaker. And besides she is cute. And a decent shot with a rifle.

re: #184 Nevergiveup

And he has done what as Senator?

Yes, we could actually look at accomplishments versus time in pay grade.

I am THRILLED!

re: #141 Sharmuta

But she has actual executive experience, whereas obama has none. They can't attack her for it, it reflects on obama.

But they have already "attacked" - Obama campaign issued a statement that made mention, in a negative way, of her lack of experience.

I cannot get over how Obama and his campaign keep making issues of things for other people that are SIMILAR ISSUES for him. Doesn't he know when to keep his mouth shut?

re: #175 FrogMarch

I think it's good because the left with trash her - which will backfire.

It's already started!

re: #166 Charles

She's been in office longer still then Obama's 135 days 'present' in the senate. She has alot more experience in formulating policy, she's a reformer and she has legislative history. She's MORE experienced then Obama and she's the VP which means we assume she'll be sitting and learning from McCain's one term before taking the office.

As a woman born in Alaska with a son in the military, I tickled pink!

Palin earned each of her jobs, unlike Hillary, who used her husband's connections to get hers.

re: #166 Charles

She's been a governor for less than half the time Obama's been a senator, for starters.
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True Charles, yet Gov's get a more stuff done than any Senator.

I AM GRINNING FROM EAR TO EAR THIS TOTALLY SHOT TO HELL THE DONKS ISSUE OF MCCAIN AS BUSH3

I love this. The Dems are already trying to say she's inexperienced...

She's run a town.

She' run a city.

Obama, who runs a Senate committee or subcommittee, can't even figure out how to get it to meet...

She's been a governor for less than half the time Obama's been a senator, for starters.

Well, apparently, the city she was mayor of is the size of a 7/11. Christ, I'm really terrified. I could have lived with Hillary as president. i would have gritted my teeth and endured it. I can't endure Obama.

re: #44 Charles

OK That's a lot of political fence-sitting there.

Still does not leave me with a lot of ingformation about under what particulars would those views be allowed or disallowed. Theology discussion? Philosophy discussion?

I hope the people who support McCain or at least are against Obama/Biden will vette her further on this.

Admittedly I support McCain's move as a political maneuver.

Van Halen?!

They're coming out on stage right now. Woo-hoo!

re: #143 arizona9

She will have 4 years to get experience.

i hate mccain, but today i send him money!

re: #99 Cain

An amazing pick. I did not think McCain had the wisdom to make such an obviously fantastic choice. Finally, a conservative in this race that can energize this base. They'll be getting money now from me and the wife. Obama's goose is officially cooked in my estimation. So refreshing to wake up to news like this after months of fighting off slight feelings of nausea when looking at the choices available. McCain/Palin... all the way now. And you want a good look at the first female President of the US? Take a good long look at Sarah and smile big.

Bingo!

re: #120 Charles

Her position on creationism is at least not as extreme as Bobby Jindal's, and there's no evidence she believes in exorcism, so she has that going for her.

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

Less at the federal level, but she's been a governor about as long as he's been a senator, and that's at least a chief executive position. She has far more executive experience than Obama (which, admittedly, isn't saying much), overall.

And remember, she's not the presidential candidate. It's an important distinction (although, admittedly, it probably shouldn't be).

Someone elsewhere reported that one of the CNN types asked whether Palin can really put in the time & energy on this campaign, because of her baby with Down Syndrome, and those kids take a lot of time...

Response from other commenter: McCain campaign is probably wondering if you'd ask the same question if Palin was male.

I thought we were a little farther down the trail about women. The prejudice about disabilities doesn't surprise me as much. I wonder if anyone in network news KNOWS anyone with Down Syndrome.

On one issue she's got more experience than any of the other candidates, she at least governed a state.

With respect to those who are denigrating her executive experience, IMHO Sarah Palin has more than Obama.

Being a Mayor of a city, plus a city council woman, not to mention Governor of the largest State in the Union (and a key State in the future of American politics, giving the possible drilling in ANWR), that trumps "State Senator" and "activist".

Whatever the eff that activist word means...

McCain/Palin.

Out-freaking-standing.

In place of actual experience the ENERGY issue will now be in the fore, once again, where it belongs. ENERGY! people. It is THE salient issue of this election cycle.

re: #120 Charles

Her position on creationism is at least not as extreme as Bobby Jindal's, and there's no evidence she believes in exorcism, so she has that going for her.

But McCain has just taken the issue of "experience" out of play. She has even less experience than Obama.

Not entirely Charles. She does have far more in depth knowledge of energy issues than either Obama or Biden does. She got a natural gas pipeline built to pump from Prudhomme down into Canada that will go operational shortly. We'll be using that gas down here. She is a military mother and also the statutory head of the Alaska National Guard.

re: #139 SpartanWoman

Rubbish. The origin of life is an esoteric debate at best and has squat to do with oil exploration or taxation. A big non-issue, far below the economy, energy, war and peace, fairness doctrine, health care.

Evolution isn't really about the origin of life, but never mind.

I didn't make myself clear. The I.D./evolution debate is not confined to "the origin of life." I.D. proponents actually change the definition of science as it has stood for 300 years or more, in order to call their "theory" science. If I.D. were taught in science classrooms, this would accelerate the decline in basic understanding of scientific principles that is already rampant in this country.

That said, I'm excited about the Palin pick. I think she has a Reagan attitude. I have little doubt Reagan was a creationist. But he wasn't the type to try to force religion into science classrooms.

This pick casts into stark contrast the difference between the two tickets. McCain with an established (and now reinforced) reputation as a “maverick” has chosen a former governor of Alaska, Americas last frontier, while BO has chosen a consummate Washington insider. You can’t get any clearer a divide between the ticket of self-sufficiency, and the ticket of the “nanny state”.

What a country!

/Good Morning Everybody!

re: #201 reine.de.tout

But they have already "attacked" - Obama campaign issued a statement that made mention, in a negative way, of her lack of experience.

I cannot get over how Obama and his campaign keep making issues of things for other people that are SIMILAR ISSUES for him. Doesn't he know when to keep his mouth shut?

Let him attack her for it- it reflects on him. If he's too stupid to realize that, I say we let him continue.

This is the first time I have EVER heard any enthusiasm at a McCain rally. Now that is IMPORTANT!

Oh, I'm tearing up AGAIN.

re: #211 MandyManners

Van Halen?!

He's a hipster.

Great call lizards. I like it on many levels, mostly any critics that will complain about her lack of experience fall into a neat trap. For those who say she needs to stay at home with the new baby, well as VP she will have allot more time for that than she did as Governor of Alaska. Hillary has to spitting level 10 venom out her eyes, she will be twice as mad at Obama now. Rush likes it.

I'm concerned that the "lack of experience" thing blunts one of McCain's best offensive weapons in this campaign. McCain says "Obama lacks experience"; Obama says "your VP lacks experience"; there's mutual assured destruction, of sorts. And that works in Obama's favor, since he's more than happy to let the "experience" question fade out from the race.

And the creationism thing ain't exactly making me happy either.

On the plus side, she seems soundly conservative, and apparently has done a good job as governor.

Aww- they're singing Happy Birthday to him.

re: #222 galloping granny

Not entirely Charles. She does have far more in depth knowledge of energy issues than either Obama or Biden does. She got a natural gas pipeline built to pump from Prudhomme down into Canada that will go operational shortly. We'll be using that gas down here. She is a military mother and also the statutory head of the Alaska National Guard.

Granny- sounds like you are jumping on board!

So, Duncan Hunter's sex change operation, just took too much time?

/this interdweeb thing sure is slow this morning

One word: Fabulous!

Shows McCain is actually listening to conservatives. Yeah, Maverick.

Oh, she's a creationist? Seriously, is that the best you've got? The other side's got infanticide. I think we're in a good place.

If Palin becomes the new VP, It's Charles' job to keep her honest, and keep her Creationism out of government.

If Obama becomes the new President, it's Charles' job to...well, he's got LOTS of work to do!

re: #166 Charles

She's been a governor for less than half the time Obama's been a senator, for starters.

/compare what they've accomplished in their respective terms of office, not much of a contest

Outstanding selection.

Sarah Palin is the new fresh face of the authentic meaning of pro-choice. Her personal experience brought to light the meaning of a woman's right to her own choice; now bring on States' rights to choose.

'Feminist' Dem stepped all over their more-qualified-than-Obama female candidate for both POTUS and VP, and that's a great talking point too.

(not to mention what all this means to feminism's old face: hillary =) )

re: #120 Charles

Eh...

Obama has no executive and low legislative experience while running for a near-purely executive position.

Palin has no legislative and low executive experience while running to be part of an executive position with legislative overtones.

My money's on Sarah Palin for applicable experience.

"John McCain! John McCain!"

re: #167 wccawa

i think a lot of it depends on how the GOP spins it. yes, WE all think that this highlights obamessiah's inexperience, but how will undecided and moderate viewers see it?

mccain campaign still has to hit it, and spin it, HARD. or else the point is lost.

re: #175 FrogMarch

I think it's good because the left with trash her - which will backfire.

You're under the misconception that the left is intellectually honest.

Hot Conservative Momma! Yay for Palin

re: #19 phoenixgirl

now when i vote for mccain, i won't have to bring my vomit bucket

GMTA

LISTEN to this ovation McCain's getting
Palin has done wonders already, I can't ever remember such fire in a McCain crowd!

This is friggin awesome, that's all I have to say right now except GO HERE [Link: www.johnmccain.com...] GIVE MONEY.

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re: #227 MandyManners

Cool isn't it.

They will go crazy for Sarah---Watch!

Happy Birthday John!

mccain is so f'n happy! i've never seen this side!

re: #184 Nevergiveup

And he has done what as Senator?

Vote present, vote against the Illinois Born Alive Act, vote present again, campaign for President.

That sums it up.

How does she handle the tried to fire her brother in law smear?

Look right in the camera and say, "When a law enforcement officer loses his control and uses a weapon on a child during a personal domestic dispute then he loses his job. Full Stop!"

re: #246 Defector01

LISTEN to this ovation McCain's getting
Palin has done wonders already, I can't ever remember such fire in a McCain crowd!

Bingo

re: #166 Charles

She's been a governor for less than half the time Obama's been a senator, for starters.

Yeah but one could argue that her short time as governor is much more important than a no-show senator.

Charles she has more governing, executive, experience than the 3 other combined!

Despite Charles' silly war on religion I believe her faith is one of her stronger attributes, also she's a baskeball player--pretty cool! This choice likely gained millions of women voters.

re: #227 MandyManners

Oh, I'm tearing up AGAIN.

What's the matter, didn't McCain vet you?

He's out and talking...

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

re: #254 lifeofthemind

How does she handle the tried to fire her brother in law smear?

Look right in the camera and say, "When a law enforcement officer loses his control and uses a weapon on a child during a personal domestic dispute then he loses his job. Full Stop!"

Yep. Answer the question once, and make it brutally honest.

Did McCain pick her because she looks like the President from Battlestar Gallactica?

:D

Palin can debate Obama, and McCain can debate Biden.

This is gonna be one hellacious campaign.

The game is afoot.

Hubby is a Native American Eskimo!
Gotta love that!
Also she walked off of a job in AL government (oil related) because the gov was a butt.
Then she ran against him and won in a landslide.
Ha ha ha.
It is going to be great to have my ''feminist'' neighbors not voting for a woman while I do.
AND....what's this?
Do some here have a ''litmus test" about creation as to who they will vote for?
Are you really going to stay home over something that will have no impact on her years in office?

This election is going to come down to energy policy- in that Palin should put us over the top.

This is someone who unseated an incumbent in the primary. If she has to face Joe Biden in debates, she will have all the advantages of being a daring pick with an interesting background, not upstaged by Biden or anyone else in family background, yet at the same time will clearly not be intimidated by someone like Biden. And given Biden's record of foot-in-mouth disease, I am hoping the comparison will make the McCain/Palin ticket look that much better.

re: #248 FrogMarch

test

C-. No capitalization or punctuation. :)

re: #226 Nevergiveup

You got THAT right. This is the most intense McCain rally I've seen since, well...

The Spanish-American War?

Folks, welcome the foil to Obamania. I give you Pailinmania!

McCain needs a teleprompter, not notes

WHAT Inesco Obamapalooza?

....oh, that one............

lol

re: #242 kefirah

i think a lot of it depends on how the GOP spins it. yes, WE all think that this highlights obamessiah's inexperience, but how will undecided and moderate viewers see it?

mccain campaign still has to hit it, and spin it, HARD. or else the point is lost.

It will depend largely on how Sarah Palin spins it.

re: #239 runrabbitrun

Yes and how many pro choice people ask the child in the womb for its choice?

There is the meaning of choice

re: #231 Occasional Reader

And the creationism thing ain't exactly making me happy either.

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Long as there is NO record of her pushing it while in office I don't really care.

1. No ones talking about Obama's speech anymore
2. Does this put the wet side of Washington and Oregon into play?
3. Poor Joe Biden, he has to attack her and look like a cad
4. She may take a few magazine covers from Obama
5. What will be important is how Ferraro and HRC come on this? Its a perfect chance to bury a dagger in Obama's back.

I was fully prepared to vote Libertarian this year.

But I think we might have got the 2000 McCain back, and I am prepared to go full bore for the guy if he is the gutsy veteran he used to be.

This pick is awesome, awesome, awesome. I think she would be a fantastic pick for president in 2012 too!

The problem with the Republicans is its been the party of 'Whos next in line' for FAR TOO LONG.

Our country needs more inexperienced people to lead. Because these days experience is a code word for 'i have been a life long politician and have not a clue what the real world is like'.

A person with little experience to me is the next best thing to term limits.