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Obama Campaign Reaction to Sarah Palin

Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:25:56 am PDT

From Fox News, the official statement from Obama spokesman Bill Burton:

Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Talk about a tin ear; for a campaign that already has a well-deserved reputation for being elitist and arrogant, to attack Palin for being a small-town mayor is blazingly dumb.

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1 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:27:11am

Wow....It's amazing the stupidity.

2 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:28:03am

Petulant self aggrandizer.

3 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:28:22am

They never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

4 Shug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:28:36am

Dumb small town bitter Americans. Clinging to God, guns, and hockey sticks

Keep it up Hussein

5 DocDublU  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:28:48am

mysogeny, they name is Obama.

6 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:29:04am

What foreign policy experience does Obama have? Besides kissing up to Middle East terrorist leaders, that is?

7 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:29:27am

The problem is that now cuts both ways. It makes it harder for McCain to attack Obama's lack of experience. Experience (or lack of) may just have become a moot issue.

8 Shug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:29:34am

re: #6 Cygnus

What foreign policy experience does Obama have? Besides kissing up to Middle East terrorist leaders, that is?

He took Michelle and the Girls to EPCOT

9 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:29:51am
a heartbeat away from the presidency

Obama subconsciously concedes defeat! Drinks are on me!

10 MAV  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:29:52am

NoBama is going to get beat by a great Mama.

11 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:29:55am

re: #8 Shug

He took Michelle and the Girls to EPCOT


LOL

12 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:30:01am

She is smart with ultra-sharp judgment.

13 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:30:02am

How refreshing to see the dems have grown up a little - not!

14 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:30:06am

Pot, meet kettle. I thought that "hope and change" were all you needed and experience is passe. Only for the Dems I guess.

15 Right Brain  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:30:08am

Party bosses attacking mother of five children who happens to be the Governor of the largest state in the union.

A real tin ear after what they did to Hillary.

16 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:30:40am

Oh my goodness listen to the Obamabots spin, spin, spin - she can't pull over those Hillary voters!

/The female newsanchors seem really enthusiastic about her.

17 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:31:06am

re: #7 Killgore Trout

The problem is that now cuts both ways. It makes it harder for McCain to attack Obama's lack of experience. Experience (or lack of) may just have become a moot issue.

I guess McCain will have to attach Obama's track record. CAC, public housing, etc.

18 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:31:32am

re: #8 Shug

He took Michelle and the Girls to EPCOT

"It's a small world after all..."

19 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:31:43am

That's right. Attack Palin because she's not a Chicago machine politician who surrounded himself, either by choice or accident, with terrorist scum in the form of Bill Ayers, racists in the form of Rev. Wright, and whose experience can be summed up thusly *crickets*.

20 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:31:43am

Palin is head of the National Guard.

21 Tait_Ransom  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:32:00am

And she STILL has more executive experience than Sen. Obama or Sen. Biden.

22 tradewind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:32:14am

Her husband's pretty hunky himself, it'd be fun to watch....

[Link: dwb.adn.com...]

23 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:32:16am

re: #7 Killgore Trout

The problem is that now cuts both ways. It makes it harder for McCain to attack Obama's lack of experience. Experience (or lack of) may just have become a moot issue.

That's something I'm worried about too (as mentioned on the previous thread). It dulls the edge of one of the more effective offensive weapons in McCain's arsenal. However, given that the Obama camp foolishly jumped out immediately and started shouting about "experience", it appears they've taken the bait.

24 Shug  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:32:23am

Yesterday , The Democratic Party put a former community organizer with zero foreign policy experience (except Merci Beaucoup ) an election away from the presidency.

25 PaKeystoner  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:33:17am

re: #4 Shug

Dumb small town bitter Americans. Clinging to God, guns, and hockey sticks

Keep it up Hussein

I resemble that remark! I have all 3 of them. Pennsylvania, you know....

26 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:33:18am
Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Pretty damn silly when you consider that a former community organizer with zero foreign policy experience is in the running for the presidency, and that former community organizer put a do-nothing senator, much older than he is, a heartbeat away from the presidency on his ticket.

Stuff it, Barry!

27 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:33:30am

obama- you want to make an issue of experience- bring it.

While we're at it, let's compare accomplishments.

28 gopninja  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:33:31am

I hate this pick. I hate it.

So does Karl Rove.

"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years, he's been able but undistinguished," Rove said. "I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America."

29 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:33:34am

re: #17 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I guess McCain will have to attach Obama's track record. CAC, public housing, etc.

That's a good point. Palin's track record of reform is much better than Obama's.

30 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:33:41am

re: #22 tradewind

Her husband's pretty hunky himself, it'd be fun to watch....

[Link: dwb.adn.com...]

First Dude! Yeah baby!

31 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:33:45am

If the Democrats had an airline, the captain would be just out of flight school, and the co-pilot would be the one with years of experience.
And they'd criticize the Republican airline because the co-pilot had just moved up to large airliners after flying commuter planes.

Who do you want to fly with?

32 maddogg  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:34:02am

Official Obama campaign reaction"

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. *sob, sniff*

/no fair, McCain bold, We were our typical yellow bellied coward selves.

33 right_wing2  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:34:58am

"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency."

As opposed to the Obamessiah, who has zero foreign policy experience, less than a hearbeat away from the presidency.

34 Dahveed  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:35:31am

Sarah Palin - Former mayor and CURRENT GOVERNOR of the State of Alaska.

Barack Obama - Junior Senator for 4 years, never held a hearing in the subcommittee he chaired. Hasn't represented the interests of the people of Illinois in the Senate because he hasn't been there. Voted "present" plenty often as senator in the Illinois Senate.

The Obama Campaign may want to reconsider the experience issue.

35 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:35:32am

The left is freaking out.

/you can watch it if you have a TV

36 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:35:41am

arrogant and stupid all at once. Anyone surprised?

re: #27 Sharmuta

obama- you want to make an issue of experience- bring it.

While we're at it, let's compare accomplishments.

Indeed.
What experience does Obama have in the private sector? Has Obama ever run a successful business?

37 victor_yugo  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:36:11am

Alaska is how many miles from Russian nukes?

Alaska borders what nation?

Sarah Palin has more experience on the front lines of foreign policy than either The Fascist Tool Barack Obama or Joe "Isn't the Atlantic Ocean a foreign entity?" Biden.

Couple her with McCain's experience with "diplomacy carried out by other means," and they're miles ahead of Smugs and Plugs.

38 looking closely  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:36:58am

How many States has Obama governed?
How many cities (even small ones)?
Has Obama actually governed ANYTHING at ALL?

39 Freelance  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:37:11am

I predict that McCain and Palin will drop a huge Bunker Buster on team Obama joe Biden

40 Charles  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:37:12am

More than 5,000 online...

41 Sol Roth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:37:14am

People this stupid shouldn't even drive, much less command a nuclear arsenal.

42 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:37:16am

Obama's foreign policy experience: backstabbing the war effort.

43 Freelance  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:38:22am

Obama joe Biden... get it?

/chortling at my own jokes

44 ggt  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:38:37am

Hey all! The hamsters are still working overtime, I see. Taking forever for LGF to load. Not as bad as last night.

So it is a woman! Does she have an opinion on whsy drilling for oil will do to the environment in her state? Has it's upper regions melted away due to globull warming?

45 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:39:17am

Obama, you're fucked

46 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:39:33am

I trust her more than I could trust a thousand Obamas.

47 Venezuela lover  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:39:41am

First off, Palin comes from an oil producing State and she must have some knowledge of the international oil markets.

Second, she is a mother with brains and good looks. Along with Cindy, McCain knows how to pick em.

48 snowcrash  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:39:49am

5000 on line. Palin's selection has energized the party in a way Romney or Pawlenty never could have.

49 cblesz  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:39:59am

Alright...how much money do I need to donate to get a bigger server?

50 Plumed Basilisk  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:40:12am

Town of 9000, and Governor (executive experience) of a state with only slightly fewer people that Delaware (Biden's state) and just as much foreign policy experience as Barry Hussein.

51 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:40:24am
52 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:40:24am

If you are the mayor of a town of 9000, the citizens will know you directly, and you will not be able to present yourself through a media-political machine the way BHO has.

BHO is toast.

53 mich-again  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:40:41am

Biden's foreign policy expertise gave us the stupid partition plan for Iraq. He said the only way Iraq could survive was to split it into 3 parts. That was a profoundly bad idea now residing in the trash can. But don't look for anyone in the MSM to ask him about that failed initiative of his.

54 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:40:44am

re: #31 Kosh's Shadow

If the Democrats had an airline, the captain would be just out of flight school, and the co-pilot would be the one with years of experience.
And they'd criticize the Republican airline because the co-pilot had just moved up to large airliners after flying commuter planes.

Who do you want to fly with?


She actually has a floater plane!

55 LANMaster  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:40:47am

HAHAHAHAHA !

The Obama campaign is in deep dooo dooo now!

They can't attack her lack of experience for the 2nd spot when the top of their ticket has no more experience than she does.

They can't attack her good looks because they would appear sexist (alienating any chance to take the Hillary vote)

They can't attack her age because they have already been saying McCain is too old.

Exceptional choice. The Democrats must be feeling nauseated today. he he he

56 ggt  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:40:49am

re: #34 Dahveed

As he is my senator (ach!) I know what I am talking about. I hate when the MSM states he has been a senator for x years.

He has only really been a senator for about 90 days. The rest of his term, he has been running for president.

57 jester6  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:40:50am

I am surprised Obama's camp took the bait that fast.

Obama has already been tagged as inexperienced. Nothing that happens between now and November will change that. His only hope is to change the subject. And apparently they are too foolish to understand that.

But considering she is the "top executive of an organization with 20,000 employees and a 6.6 billion dollar budget" I don't think she has too much to worry about if they question her ability to lead.

58 wright1  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:41:02am

Babies, guns and Jesus - hot damn

59 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:41:15am

re: #44 ggt

Hey all! The hamsters are still working overtime, I see. Taking forever for LGF to load. Not as bad as last night.

At this rate Charles is going to be buying food pellets by the truckload.

60 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:41:18am

Sarah Palin.

100% of the Republican base.

/100% of the bitter, clingy, NASCAR vote

61 LeonidasOfSparta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:41:32am

re: #38 looking closely

good point. And if you look upclose, even from a distance, at Chicago and the Southside in particular, you will find a trail, that stretches far as the eye can see, of corruption, malfeasance and graft mixed into the rubble of failed policies, failed "housing projects" and failed 50Million dollars in Annenberg Foundation monies misspent on "public education" SPENT BY NONE OTHER THAN THE "LEGEND IN HIS OWN MIND" HIMSELF, Barack Nero Obama with close assistance from ....Bill "Underground Weatherman SDS" Ayers.

62 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:41:34am

re: #7 Killgore Trout

Not at all. McCain can still work the experience line because Obama has to make the tough decisions - and he never had to make them.

A tough decision that Obama passed on: distancing himself from Ayers.
Another tough decision Obama passed on: distancing himself from the Rev. Wright's church.
Another tough decision Obama flubbed: skipping Hillary and going with Biden (sure, dealing with the ego would have been an issue, but Obama/Hillary would have been a winning ticket). Now? Not so much.

63 maddogg  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:41:40am

Ms Palin can make this election a rout. That makes her a very powerful woman right now. And can pave the way for the first Woman President. So this pick is very significant for that, as well as giving the moonbats loose bowels.

64 dmh0667  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:41:48am
Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.

As opposed to the Democrat Party and MSM Machine putting a "community-organizer" who has spent his entire career getting elected to the next higher office in position to be POTUS? A empty-suit know-nothing elitist claiming to be Hopey & Changey but selects a 30-year in the Senate blowhard Gaffe-Master?

Hope! McCain! Change! Palin!

Si...se....puedes!

65 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:41:48am

re: #53 mich-again

Biden's foreign policy expertise gave us the stupid partition plan for Iraq.

Hey, he also had the "let's send a $200 million check to Iran to show we don't hate Arabs" plan!

66 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:41:53am

re: #7 Killgore Trout

The problem is that now cuts both ways. It makes it harder for McCain to attack Obama's lack of experience. Experience (or lack of) may just have become a moot issue.

I don't see that at all. She has plenty of executive experience, something that Obama has a total lack of. And what exactly is his great foreign policy experience? Talking about meeting with thugs, autocrats, tyrants, and terrorists?

Hands down she has more experience than Obama or Biden combined.

67 rightwinger3  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:43:01am
Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Quick, we need to get Ms. Palin on a trip to Iraq, Afghanistan and Germany with lots of press tagging along.
/

68 Edouard  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:43:06am

So I suppose we're supposed to trust a "community organizer" versus someone who actually RAN a city government.

HO-kay!

69 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:43:18am
70 tradewind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:43:30am

CNBC's Maria Bartiromo will have an interview with Palin that she did just yesterday on her show at 3pm today.

71 wccawa  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:43:47am

Not to sound TOO over the top, but...

I'm getting the sense that this is an historic moment- for the GOP, and for US politics in general.

Just watching Palin give that speech, I can only imagine the fear that is running rampant in Obama's camp right now. She would not only handle Biden in a debate, I honestly think she'd KO the Obamessiah.

Perfect pick. Perfect time. Life is good.

72 Tigger2005  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:43:51am

re: #7 Killgore Trout

The problem is that now cuts both ways. It makes it harder for McCain to attack Obama's lack of experience. Experience (or lack of) may just have become a moot issue.

How does it make it harder? She's the VP nominee, not the Presidential nominee. And she already has a hell of a lot more experience than Obama.

I really don't get this line of argument.

The Democrats going to point out that the Republican VP pick is just as inexperienced as their PRESIDENTIAL pick?

Especially when the Republicans can just put up a list comparing Palin's achievements and experience with Obama's?

In fact, I think I might just make up those lists myself & send them to the McCain campaign.

73 Dammits Dad  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:43:52am

I am lovin' this. It is something I have been praying for.
McCain-Palin-08
D.D.

74 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:43:55am

I bet she didn't vote 'present' 95% of the time like Obama had.

75 The Other Les  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:43:57am

re: #35 Killian Bundy

The left is freaking out.

/you can watch it if you have a TV

I was hoping to watch things from here.

re: #40 Charles

More than 5,000 online...

Yow!

76 Zevy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:43:59am

Hmm. I wonder how many houses igloos she owns?

77 talking stick  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:44:05am

...as the REAL [paleo lib] knuckle draggers stand up and moon the audience...

78 joncelli  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:44:09am

re: #40 Charles

Hmm, need to bring in more hamsters!

79 HoosierHoops  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:44:19am

re: #22 tradewind

Her husband's pretty hunky himself, it'd be fun to watch....

[Link: dwb.adn.com...]


They call him the 'first dude' in Alaska...

80 Edouard  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:44:20am

By the way, McCain made sure to use the word "executive" in his introduction of her.

Let's not forget, she happens to be an executive with a 90% approval rating, too.

I do hope they use that word all the time in the next 67 days.

81 TheMatrix31  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:44:24am

Bigtime slowdown on LGF, the site's getting hammered!

82 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:44:37am

re: #54 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

She actually has a floater plane!

Well, it's not an A-4, but I think the best Obama and Biden can claim are paper planes.

83 RubyTuesday  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:44:45am

Hillbilly Geek, did you make your way to this post? Because I wanted to reply to your post about leaving off the sarc tag, but it's hard staying connected here, there must be a million people trying to access this website. Anyhoo, no problem on the sarcasm.
Team McCain/Palin!

84 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:44:51am
85 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:44:54am

Hillary spoke of the 18 million of her supporters.
Say 50% of them are women. That's 9 million people.

Palin might be able to pick off 10% of them because she appeals to their sense of decency over the way Hillary was treated. That's 900,000.

In a close election, that's a swing of 1.8 million. Heck, even if 5% of the Hillary gang goes against the Democratic ticket, that's a 900,000 vote swing. In close states (the purples), that is the difference between winning and going home.

86 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:45:13am

Her oldest son enlisted in the US Army on September 11, 2001.

I cried when I heard that and the crowd roared! USA USA USA!

87 Adina in Judea  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:45:27am

The Democrats just held an entire convention with only one message: John McCain is George Bush. The Democrats are trying to run the 2000 and 2004 elections all over again. Their bitterness knows no bounds.

Who knows what Obama has planned if he were elected. He's certainly in no position to explain it. He's running an "I Am Not George Bush" platform.

Well, Governor Sarah Palin grew up in a small town to a working class family. She's part of the small town "clinging to their faith and to guns" crowd that Obama has alienated so badly.

She's also accomplished in her executive experience in Alaska.

Unlike Obama, she's not just a name or an empty celebrity suit.

She also ran against an incumbent governor in a primary and won it before winning the state election as governor. One of the issues was a private jet that the former governor used for his travel. She SOLD IT OFF after being elected as governor.

Sarah Palin is a governor with more integrity about having her own jet to use than Obama or GORE.

While I don't think Obama would have won anyway, I'm a lot less worried about his chances today. He will keep making mistakes while running a two month "I Am Not George Bush" campaign that will end up looking foolish against John McCain and Sarah Palin.

88 BlackWatch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:45:44am

Well, lets see... first, I am to be 'pitied' because I am from the country and I have a 'bible in one hand and a rifle in the other', and now that Senator McCain has picked FEMALE as his V.P. candidate, she is incompetent and 'disqualified' because she is also from a small town....

oh yes, I forgot...I live in 'flyover' country of the U.S.....We are 'rednecks' and inbred and poorly educated per the Ohio State Communist "liberals"....silly me!?

89 Salamantis  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:45:54am

I can hear the McCain camp's response now:

We got it right and you got it wrong. We have the experience at the top of our ticket and the new blood on the bottom, and you've got it just the opposite.

90 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:45:56am

re: #40 Charles

More than 5,000 online...

Yes, and I'm starting to detect the smell of burnt circuits all the way through the internet.

91 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:46:55am
92 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:46:59am

I'm excited about my party again. Now- I can't wait to vote for this ticket.

93 Cartman  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:47:04am

Ah, I see the Obama disdain for "flyover country" folks continues.

94 mich-again  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:47:25am

Obama and Biden were in the Senate while as they and the rest of the Democrats claim the Bush Administration ran amok. How did they use their power to actually do something about it?

Thats what cracks me up about the Democrats diatribes about Bush. If he was so bad for the Country why didn't they do anything meaningful to oppose him.

95 BrianA  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:47:31am

You know about those small town people. They cling to their guns and religion with antpathy toward others.

/sarc off

96 Zevy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:47:43am
Quick, we need to get Ms. Palin on a trip to Iraq, Afghanistan and Germany with lots of press tagging along.
/

She's already been there, visiting the AK Nat'l Guard...BEFORE she was running for national office.

97 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:47:54am

re: #82 Kosh's Shadow

That's float plane ,

unless it has a boat hull and lands directly on the water in which case it is a

flying boat.

Catalina flying boat

98 tradewind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:48:02am

re: #79 HoosierHoops

He looks like a guy straight out of Most Dangerous Jobs on Discovery Channel.
Just a bonus, all I'm saying....

99 jill e  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:48:06am

It’s McCain’s birthday and the Palins’ 20th anniversary today.

100 Tigger2005  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:48:37am

re: #90 Son of the Black Dog

Yes, and I'm starting to detect the smell of burnt circuits all the way through the internet.

Isn't that burnt hamster?

101 Kenneth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:48:41am

No "foreign policy" experience? Well, Barry, unlike you, Sarah visited the US troops in Germany.

102 maddogg  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:48:45am

There are a lot of Democrats that know deep down in their hearts that Obama is pure crap. And Ms. Palin might be able to make them confront that inner knowledge.

103 Cartman  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:48:48am

I'm guessing that McCain's tip jar got hit pretty good within the last couple of hours.

104 Rancher  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:48:49am

re: #91 buzzsawmonkey

Sweet.

105 ggt  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:48:59am

re: #87 Adina in Judea

We need a campaign poster with Sarah holding a shotgun in the Alaskan Wilderness. REAL WOMEN will love it. (and a few men, I suppose)

106 jester6  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:49:01am

There is another big issue here we are missing.

By the time of the election, both McCain and Palin will have/had children serving as grunts in Iraq. This is huge and will completely disarm the "you just want to get more American's killed" argument about the war.

107 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:49:15am

re: #92 Sharmuta

I'm excited about my party again. Now- I can't wait to vote for this ticket.

In the end, that is the most important part of this pick. You and I would have voted McCain not matter what. Now we can do it with a smile on our faces and in our hearts.

108 Edouard  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:49:26am

BTW there is absolutely no way the Dems can now say that "McSame's" VP choice is another Dick Cheney (their favorite whipping boy). So THAT tactic's out the window now too.

109 DesertSage  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:49:50am

Still waiting for the adulation from the NOW leaders on McCain picking a woman.

Waiting....

Waiting....

110 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:49:58am

McCain had a classy ad to congratulate the empty suit last night and then you get a snide reaction like this from them.

Palin has blown their minds.

111 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:49:58am
112 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:50:18am

re: #85 lawhawk

And more than that- what of the number of Republicans who were not thrilled with McCain that will now be boosted by this pick?- Republicans who might have stayed home but are now going to go and vote.

113 theblakester  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:50:43am

Just because I'm not voting for Obama, doesn't make me a racist! But in an effort to not sound racist, I think we have crossed a line that will never allow us to nominated two white guys for president and vice president again. This is disturbing to me since it may just keep us from ever electing the two most qualified people to office ever again. I'm afraid this will only lead to more affirmative action type politics. I mean why not put a black women in a wheelchair, that is a lesbian. Where will this madness stop?

114 Rancher  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:50:47am

re: #96 Zevy

She's already been there, visiting the AK Nat'l Guard...BEFORE she was running for national office.


Sweet.

You can't make this stuff up.

115 maddogg  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:51:06am

How did Rove pull this off?

116 doppelganglander  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:52:18am

The hamsters ate my post. I'll repeat - What a weak response. I think Palin is such a dark horse, and McCain did such a masterful job of obfuscation, that the Obama campaign had nothing prepared against her. Whoever was responsible for that is going to be fired this weekend.

117 lifeofthemind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:52:32am

Look at the Alaska state website, prominent display about a gas pipeline (Called Governor Palin's AGIA) they negotiated with Canada. Good luck getting things to load today. Are we under a DNS attack?

118 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:52:59am

re: #116 doppelganglander

299 advisors still left

119 Perplexed  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:53:20am

Obambi, do you want some cheese with that whine? Obama, you had your chance and blew it. You made your choices, now live with them. I do hope that you continue slamming Palin, as that shows you as the petty individual you truly are. I think Obambi's loss might be worse than McGovern's.

120 Dripping Sarcasm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:53:29am
"...Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency."

You know that this is an authentic presentation of the Obama campaign because it fairly reeks of the same Snobbery that Obama and all his retinue have exhibited over and over again.

Like this quote from Obama's recent ESPN interview: "...Who he'd (Obama) root for in a Cubs-Sox World Series: "Oh, that's easy. White Sox. . . . You go to Wrigley Field, you have a beer, beautiful people up there. People aren't watching the game. It's not serious. White Sox, that's baseball. South Side."

Jerk, utter jerk.

121 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:53:32am

re: #117 lifeofthemind

Look at the Alaska state website, prominent display about a gas pipeline (Called Governor Palin's AGIA) they negotiated with Canada. Good luck getting things to load today. Are we under a DNS attack?

This put Alaska on the map. Does Obama know it is a state yet?

122 Ojoe  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:54:28am

re: #119 Perplexed

all 57 states gone.

123 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:54:57am

re: #121 Nevergiveup

This put Alaska on the map. Does Obama know it is a state yet?

All Obama knows is that it's a tiny little state. It's even smaller than Iran.

124 ContraJihadi  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:55:17am

As if we really need reminding of what Obama thinks of small towns.

125 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:55:27am

I hope they replay her speech later. I"d like to see it in it's entirety again. She's a breath of fresh air. I'm psyched!
Where do can get McCain/Palin '08 t-shirts?

126 dmh0667  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:55:47am

re: #67 rightwinger3

Quick, we need to get Ms. Palin on a trip to Iraq, Afghanistan and Germany with lots of press tagging along.
/

And maybe a speech in front of the Victory Column in Berlin? That would really 'level the playing-field", wouldn't it?

127 ggt  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:55:53am

Governor Sarah Palin announced the State of Alaska will join the multi-state amicus brief authored by the State of Texas in support of the Second Amendment right of individual Americans to bear arms.

Time to pull in the relief hamsters --is that steam coming from Charles's ears?

Can he temporarily turn off something to accomodate the traffice --archived spin-offs or something?

128 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:55:58am

The political brilliance of this move is already making The Obamanoids crazy.

129 Cartman  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:56:08am

re: #109 DesertSage

Still waiting for the adulation from the NOW leaders on McCain picking a woman.

Waiting....

Waiting....

Oh, the MSM and the rads will tear into her like she was just another old, white dude. She's a conservative, after all. I sure hope she's prepared for that. It will be ugly, of that I'm certain.

130 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:56:15am

The kos kids are actually making comments about her down syndrome son!

* [new] Not to mention
a meteoric rise in the number of Down's children.

Choices
I certainly respect any parents who choose to raise a child with Down's, but I do think it is fairly selfish to decide to have a fifth child in your forties, given the much higher risk of Down's

I am about to blow my cover over there! I have a special needs niece and this is unforgivable!

131 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:56:43am

C-SPAN is replaying the Obamafest from last night. We know which side their bread is buttered on.

132 ciaospirit  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:56:56am

re: #86 NoSubmission

Her oldest son enlisted in the US Army on September 11, 2001.

I cried when I heard that and the crowd roared! USA USA USA!

I thought she said he enlisted 9/11 of last year. And he's being deployed to Iraq on 9/11 this year.

133 Irene NYC  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:56:59am

I just love that her nickname is Sarah Barracuda.
;)

134 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:57:02am

re: #126 dmh0667

And maybe a speech in front of the Victory Column in Berlin? That would really 'level the playing-field", wouldn't it?

No need. All she needs to do is go to visit her son serving his country!

135 Salamantis  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:57:17am

Channeling McCain:

Sahar Palin is, like myself, a maverick, a reformer, anti-corruption, and anti pork barrel earmarks, and she is a proven chief executive with an 80% approval rating in her home state. Like myself, she is concerned about our dependence on foreign oil, and advocates increased domestic production to help to wean us off that dependence. She shares my social values and my strong support of our nation's efforts in the global war on terrorists. I chose her as my running mate not because of her gender, nor in spite of it, but without regard to it, viewing her as the best fit out there with which to complete my ticket.

136 thebronze  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:57:40am

Absolutely loving the irony over that statement...

137 talon_262  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:57:49am

I'll tell ya, I'm really stoked about McCain/Palin...Johnny Mac made a solid VP pick, in that he didn't choose one of his former rivals (like Obama did and probably regrets now) or one of the party favorites, but someone with executive experience (she may "only" have been governor of Alaska for the past year and a half, but that's a helluva lot more executive experience than any of the others on both tickets) that fills a lot of gaps for McCain.

138 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:57:51am

re: #109 DesertSage

Still waiting for the adulation from the NOW leaders on McCain picking a woman.

Waiting....

Waiting....

*crickets*

139 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:57:52am
140 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:58:17am

re: #48 snowcrash

5000 on line. Palin's selection has energized the party in a way Romney or Pawlenty never could have.

I guess it's fun to be excited, but this pick is risky. Palin has never been through a national campaign and does not understand how much she will be pilloried.

141 NoSubmission  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:58:24am

The Islamists of the world seethe!

I'm LOVING IT.

142 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:58:49am

alaska is around 100 times the size of delaware ...

/just sayin'

143 A440Hz  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:59:06am

Palin has "no foreign policy experience"? And isn't Big O the one who suggested talks with Amadmanonajihad?

He tempered that earlier comment in his speech last night, saying something like "we will have tough talks with Iran" that will get them to stop making nuclear weapons and start doing our laundry instead. I forget the details exactly.

144 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:59:14am

re: #140 DeafDog

I guess it's fun to be excited, but this pick is risky. Palin has never been through a national campaign and does not understand how much she will be pilloried.

I think she and her family can hold their own!

145 theblakester  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:59:31am

I really do think that Obama got outflanked in this one. Do you really think he knows about Alaska? I can hear him now asking, hey how come I didn't see Alaska flying over the states, where the hell is this place, I didn't even see it flying back from Hawaii as a child?

146 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:59:39am

re: #140 DeafDog

I guess it's fun to be excited, but this pick is risky. Palin has never been through a national campaign and does not understand how much she will be pilloried.

I don't think she's quaking in her boots.

147 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:59:41am

It's a Beautiful Day!
HAHAHAHAHA

Good going McCain.
Sending you some money.

148 mattm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:59:51am

re: #103 Cartman

I'm guessing that McCain's tip jar got hit pretty good within the last couple of hours.

Yep.

149 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:59:51am
150 Golem Akbar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 10:59:57am

Obama, dem candidate for president, has zero foreign policy experience. Biden, dem candidate for VP, has a lot of foreign policy experience.

McCain, rep candidate for president, has a lot of foreign policy experience. Palin, rep candidate for VP, has zero foreign policy experience.

Who will make a better president? hmmmmm?

151 ciaospirit  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:00:25am

I loved the fact that her flag pin was HUGE. No squinting trying to figure out if it was even a flag. I still haven't figured out if Obama's teeny pin was actually a flag.

152 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:01:00am

re: #146 really grumpy big dog Johnson

I don't think she's quaking in her boots.

And I bet she has some Pretty normal hockey mom boots also.

153 Genosaurer  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:01:06am

Do they really want to bring up "experience"? Really?

154 cicero05  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:01:15am

I'll bet Palin was never a "community organizer."

155 Purre  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:01:15am

I'm Finn, so I am not voter in this election of yours. But I am interested in the matter because it will affect me indirectly anyway. Anyway, I have for long thought that the quality of president (yeah, I liked Bush better than those he was running against in his two elections for president and I liked some of his decisions too. Not all but some.) would now go down as I was not impressed by any of the candidates of any of the parties. Frankly, I was not too happy and kept hoping for McCain winning only because I am notimpressed with Obama and I am certain that he would be downright detrimental to my interests. Yeah, I am selfish like that.

When I first heard about the possibility of Sarah Palin as VP candidate, I searched for info about her and I have to say that I am impressed. And I got jealous too for you having such good politician when we have so few here (we have good ones too, like Alexander Stubb, but still). And when this became certainty, I began to feel better than I have felt a long time. This does give me a hope that USA has good president (McCain picking her as VP says good things about him to me.) and excellent vice president. With the Russian bear growling next door and Iran blustering, I sure like to have someone with strength of character and McCain/Palin has that much more than Obama/Biden. I also like her being fiscal conservative and all that jazz. I really hope that McCain is influenced by her as I really think she is what USA needs and what is good for the rest of us too.

In short, this is the hope and change I can believe in ;).

156 filetandrelease  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:01:28am

For those concerned with the attacks on Palin experience, McCain's campaign is way ahead on this one already coming out with experience comparisons of Palin/Obama. Really the pick is brilliant on this point alone. She has a significant list of accomplishments that make postage stamp resume Obama look silly trying to argue the point.

As opposed to a negative, her short career is actually a positive by bringing to play Obamas non existent accomplishments.

157 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:01:31am

Late to the party. But doing the math...4 years as governor = 4 x 365 = 1460 days of executive experience.

So, roughly 10 times Obama's 143 days of Senate experience?

And that's only our co-pilot!

158 Born_to_lose  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:01:33am

Well, seems that the Obama camp only considers it "Change" if it's a black man and not so much when white women are some where on the bill. That was clear when he didn't pick Clinton (who wouldn've been a much more solid pick than Joe "Likes to drone" Biden, in my opinion) and now making such an ignorant statement about Palin. You guys might consider this post a bit extreme, but as a white woman, I have to wonder what the hell "change" really means to the Obama camp. Not that it *totally* matters, because I gotta say, I am super fired up now that he has picked Palin. I have been saying since the spring that she was my choice. I know, I know, only a Gov. for a couple of years, but I have to agree with McCain's assertion about her being tenacious. I also liked that she was willing to go against the grain and out one of her republican peers. To me, that is what change in the white house is about, being able to stand up for principles in the face of wrong doers and call them out and seek justice.

Also, I find it quite rich that the dems have elected a man who spent a year and a half of his term as senator campaigning and the other year and a half being a yes man, cmoing up with nothing all that innovative in terms of policy making. He is a plane jane at best. I think Palin's record, though young and new, has proven that she is not affraid to face tough financial situations and even enviromental issues head on with the goal to come up with long term solutions, not just something that will quickly fix and appeal to the microwave crowd.

Anyway, end of my rant, I am very excited, and as a young white conservative female, I am super excited to see McCain take a shot at an up and comer with A LOT of potential. Also, Pat Buchanan can blow it out of his rear end. He's the LAST person that should question someone's ability to run the country. Keep tryin' for last place there, ol Pat!

159 Golem Akbar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:01:35am

re: #105 ggt

We need a campaign poster with Sarah holding a shotgun in the Alaskan Wilderness. REAL WOMEN will love it. (and a few men, I suppose)


Most women will love it. Most men will too.

160 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:01:56am

Someone sent this to Glenn Reynolds: I concur completely--

As a conservative, disenfranchised from the Republican party due to their pork barrel spending, I find myself excited at the prospect of Sarah Palin as VP. Her stands against corruption, her focus on fixing issues affecting America, instead of political maneuvers to gain and hold power for power's sake, make me excited to vote for her.

The only memes that grab my attention with the Obama campaign are when he talks about reforming Washington, but his statements are so vague and his friends are so leftwing, that I suspect his rhetoric is code for changing to a more socialistic model. Whereas Palin would bring reform which would more closely resemble what Reagan would enact.

McCain has hit a homerun, possibly a game winning homerun. Her introductory speech brought a positive emotional response from me, very very rare.

161 wolfie  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:01:57am

re: #100 Tigger2005

Isn't that burnt hamster?

Hmm ! Smells just like chicken!

162 Big Steve  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:01:59am

On one of the threads last night someone asked for a comparison of Obama's Senate voting record to McCain's. I was also interested in light of Obama's comment about McCain voting 90% of the time like Bush.

So I dug into the Congressional record and nothing like introducing a few facts. I only analyzed the last congress (the 110th):

1. There were 638 total Senate votes.
2. Obama and McCain voted the same (either yea or nea) 70 times (11%).
3. Both had "no vote" meaning they both did not vote on 238 items (37%).
4. There were 221 times (35%) where one voted (either yes or no) and the other did not vote.
5. There were 109 times (17%) where one voted yes and one voted no.
6. Obama voted for his party's preference on 335 votes (52%), against 14 (2%) and did not vote 289 times(45%)
7. McCain voted for his party 208 times (33%), against 26(4%) and non voted 404 times (63%).

If you add the times Obama and McCain voted the same way plus the times the both did not vote it is 47%. So they essentially half of the time impacted the vote the same way. Also if you assume that the GOP preference for each vote is what the President wants, McCain's times of voting against or not voting is almost two thirds of the time.

So, QED here......Obama's statement just doesn't match those nasty old facts. I do realize that some votes are more important than others but sometimes even those "inconsequential" votes such as approving a district judge or the like can ultimately be historically large.

163 deanayer  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:02:01am

How petty! its all over for these clowns and also for the drive-by media.

164 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:02:08am

re: #151 ciaospirit

I loved the fact that her flag pin was HUGE. No squinting trying to figure out if it was even a flag. I still haven't figured out if Obama's teeny pin was actually a flag.

It was. And it had 57 stars on it.

165 Noam Chumpski  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:02:16am

She clings to guns and religion as well.

166 Irene NYC  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:02:24am

CNN is also "forgetting" that she is a governor when they list her qualifications in a sidebar.

The Obama campaign will rue the day they put out this press release. It's not just another example of them belittling a female's accomplishments.

167 Piglet-U93  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:02:29am

The McCain website is overloaded "Server is too busy" except for the first page and lesser used features.

[Link: www.johnmccain.com...]

168 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:02:30am

re: #130 Typicalwhitey

The kos kids are actually making comments about her down syndrome son!

I am about to blow my cover over there! I have a special needs niece and this is unforgivable!

Yup, you stay classy, Kos. What a bunch of libtards.

169 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:02:33am
170 DanTheAmericanMan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:02:33am

This woman is SOOOO much more qualified than either Obama, or the ditzoid that is currently 2 heart beats away from the White House, Ms. Pelosi. She has principles, she operates her life arround those principles, she hunts, she births and raises her children, and an executive to boot. Now we need to get the Dem majority out of the way.... find a Sarah Palin from your home district and get them on the ticket. TAKE BACK WASHINGTON FROM THE CAREER POLITICIANS !

171 de La Valette  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:02:43am

I need a picture of her with a musket held high like Heston.

172 Golem Akbar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:02:44am

re: #154 cicero05

I'll bet Palin was never a "community organizer."


Probably never ran with the SDS crowd, either.

173 lifeofthemind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:02:51am

re: #143 A440Hz

Was that talk merely tough or talk really tough? Not the dread sternly worded note Ihope?

174 armytramp  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:02:58am

I've got a girl crush on Palin.

And her hubby is hot.

Just sayin'.

And the Kos kids who attack her for having a Downs syndrome child, it just proves what I have been observing about a lot of self described liberals: no true compassion for their fellow human beings.

Some are sexist, racist, and prejudiced to the core. Everything they claim only describes Republicans.

175 lostlakehiker  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:03:34am

re: #105 ggt

We need a campaign poster with Sarah holding a shotgun in the Alaskan Wilderness. REAL WOMEN will love it. (and a few men, I suppose)

A few men? Geez! Sarah Shotgun, poster girl! If she sticks to questions of reform, national defense, and traditional values, she'll do great.


I do hope that Mrs. Palin will not be the presidential science adviser as well as VP. That's not her strong suit. The Republican party has an albatross: the sector of politically active citizens who think that in order to defend freedom of religion, keep the schools from teaching amorality and blowing off geography, history, and algebra, and generally in order to stand for Truth, Justice, and the American Way, it is necessary to prevent the schools from teaching evolution, the antiquity of the earth and the universe, and the chemistry and physics of global warming.

This is not necessary. It isn't even possible. When Kansas Republicans of this stripe gained control of the state school board and installed their curriculum, the main body of Republicans defected. In the next election, a Democrat was elected governor, and the school board was replaced with people who accepted science.

176 Born_to_lose  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:03:43am

re: #106 jester6

If you were anymore correct, I think... I think my head might explode. Thank you for bringing up this point. When I was reading the MSN gar-bage about her, they mentioned this and that was the first thing I thought of in terms of these two. Thanks again for pointing this out!

177 vagabond trader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:03:56am

Gad, you should here the two librals on WTKK Boston, they are near apoplectic. Many elitist Freudian slips being uttered. One, making fun of Alaska alluded to Hawaii also being a backwater. Duh, the Obama seems to hail from theere iirc, lol.Also ranking on her for having,GASP, young kids to take care of, and McCain is soooooo old, she may have to step in before inauguration.Isn't Biden pushing 70, or does he fib about such things?

178 mich-again  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:04:02am

This is the kind of idiocy that is flowing like a river from the KosKid Keyboards today .

I don't buy this
having an unqualified, anti-woman VP is not progress, even if she is a woman. The fact that she was picked because of sexist assumptions about women and has a horrible anti-woman record underscores this.

She's anti-woman? That's the party line?

179 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:04:05am

re: #169 taxfreekiller

First on the Democratic Party Commie MSM, Jessie High Jackson list will be "has she been open enough" has she imbraced diversity,,,,,!

He hasn't had an opportunity to blackmail her. shakedown.

180 doppelganglander  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:04:21am

OT: I wasn't able to post this earlier due to hamster fatigue, so here is the list of lizards who donated to McCain last night, plus or minus a couple of days. In no particular order:
1. I Heart the USA
2. Spirit93
3. PSGInfinity
4. rawmuse
5. Occasional Reader
6. reine.de.tout
7. mattm
8. Kosh's Shadow
9. capitalistincharge
10. the lizard
11. Russkiltlover
12. kevinmumaw
13. vbspurs
14. runrabbit
15. doppelganglander

Thanks to all, and feel free to post or email with updates. I hope the Palin selection motivates more of us to dig a little deeper. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe we only have until next Thursday to donate directly to McCain; after that you can still contribute to the RNC.

181 unclassifiable  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:04:29am

And on the day after he was delivered unto his followers amongst pillars of plank, the Obamessiah unleashed his mighty bolt of stupidity upon the young foolish gun-clinging mother.

So it was written, so it will be told.

/the dumbass comes fast and furious from Obama/Biden/DNC

182 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:04:41am

re: #85 lawhawk

Hillary spoke of the 18 million of her supporters.
Say 50% of them are women. That's 9 million people.

blockquote>

This election cycle was all about identity politics. I've seen statistics that black men are like 80-90% for Obama and white men are 70-75% for McCain.

My only point is that the % of hillary supporters who are female is much higher than 50

183 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:04:42am

re: #150 Golem Akbar

Obama, dem candidate for president, has zero foreign policy experience. Biden, dem candidate for VP, has a lot of foreign policy experience.

McCain, rep candidate for president, has a lot of foreign policy experience. Palin, rep candidate for VP, has zero foreign policy experience.

Who will make a better president? hmmmmm?

It is pretty incredible that Obama's campaign would talk about experience. Ain't they got any mirrors over there?

184 jcm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:04:52am
Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.


Yesterday, the Democrats nominated a former Alinskyite Community Organizer with zero foreign policy experience to the presidency.

How's the work for ya' Burton?

185 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:04:59am

re: #113 theblakester

Just because I'm not voting for Obama, doesn't make me a racist! But in an effort to not sound racist, I think we have crossed a line that will never allow us to nominated two white guys for president and vice president again. This is disturbing to me since it may just keep us from ever electing the two most qualified people to office ever again. I'm afraid this will only lead to more affirmative action type politics. I mean why not put a black women in a wheelchair, that is a lesbian. Where will this madness stop?

Yeah- God forbid McCain pick an independent, intelligent woman who's taken on government waste and energizes the base. He should have picked a fuddy-duddy we'd all yawn at. Give me a break.

186 ggt  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:05:57am

I can't take it anymore, I'm going to give the hamsters a little relief.

Have a great day all!

187 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:05:59am

re: #164 Walter L. Newton

It was. And it had 57 stars on it.

Are you sure? I thought there were 57 crescents.

188 garycooper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:06:21am

She used to hunt moose with her Dad...hmm. PETA will be pissed, but they're always pissed.

Maybe we should change the name of the GOP to the "Bull Moose Party," which was once the party of "progressives" in this country. A maverick Prez, who often goes against the Party-grain, with a gun-totin', straight-talkin' young woman as the Veep...that's pretty progressive, when you think about it.

189 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:06:21am

re: #178 mich-again

This is the kind of idiocy that is flowing like a river from the KosKid Keyboards today .

She's anti-woman? That's the party line?

I love that the democrats have these idiots as their core constituency.
perfect.

190 BlackWatch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:06:25am

yea, Nevergiveup, Communists Liberals better pay attention or they are libel to get the Hockey Stick shoved up their A**es

191 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:07:14am

re: #151 ciaospirit

I loved the fact that her flag pin was HUGE. No squinting trying to figure out if it was even a flag. I still haven't figured out if Obama's teeny pin was actually a flag.

She also wears a Blue Star pin.

192 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:07:52am

re: #150 Golem Akbar

Obama, dem candidate for president, has zero foreign policy experience. Biden, dem candidate for VP, has a lot of foreign policy experience.

McCain, rep candidate for president, has a lot of foreign policy experience. Palin, rep candidate for VP, has zero foreign policy experience.

Who will make a better president? hmmmmm?

Biden has "experience" but none of it good. If we were to have followed his advice on Iraq, it would indeed have been a quagmire followed by civil war and genocide.

Palin has executive experience that neither Obama nor Biden have, despite Biden's tenure as a Senator. Longevity is not the same as knowledge or experience. Biden was chosen because he can't overshadow Obama, whereas the other prospective choices would have overshadowed Obama (Hillary, Richardson, etc.), or further highlighted his deficiencies.

I actually thought that Obama/Richardson would have been a stronger ticket than this since Richardson would get the hispanic vote, plus provide executive experience. Obama's people seriously miscalculated in an attempt to wholly divorce themselves from the Clintonistas.

193 stanleymberg  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:08:05am

Folks, this pick is genius. This is the hail mary pass, yes, but it's going to be caught in the end zone after being tipped up in the air by both teams. OK, enough with the analogy...

Here's why it's genius - because all the elitist Obama-philes in the media (mostly men) who pissed off Hillary voters with their sexism and elitism and put-downs of small towns and guns and religion are going to step in their own doo-doo with this....their condescension toward Sarah Palin will be their own undoing. Because THAT is what will piss off women voters enough to get a whole BUNCH of them to vote for McCain.

John McCain, chess-master. This is a checkmate type move. Now watch as the snobs on the Left step into the trap and reveal themselves to be the elitists they really are.

I can't even believe how brilliant it is. But you doubters, you'll see....the trap has been set, and the Left is about to step right in it. Nice!

194 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:08:14am

On Fox now a spokeman for the Obama campaign said Sarah Palin is NOT Hilliary Clinton. THANK G_D!

195 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:08:19am

re: #144 Nevergiveup

I think she and her family can hold their own!

I'm with her, but you can expect an attack on her that will make the attack on Obama look tame (Dems are viscious). There are lots of different ways it could play out. If Palin ever tears-up, she will not get the sam sympathetic reaction that Hillary got.

196 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:08:32am

re: #130 Typicalwhitey

The kos kids are actually making comments about her down syndrome son!

I am about to blow my cover over there! I have a special needs niece and this is unforgivable!

Yeah, well son A-hole named Reggie on the previous thread (comment #247) just wrote that Palin has 4.25 kids, which I interpret as a derogatory reference to her Downs Syndrome child. I'm trying to ding it down and report it as objectionable, but the system isn't responding.

197 TheMatrix31  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:08:36am

LOL @ this chick Anita Dunn on FNC.

"She's just not ready."

198 Dripping Sarcasm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:08:43am

Wait a minute, besides cutting "attack dog" Biden's legs off at the knees, I just realized something....

Sarah Palin is the "Anti-Pelosi"! The Pelosi Neutralizer! Yes! I barely know her and I'm loving our next Vice President!

199 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:10:01am

This Obama broad on FOX just said Obama co-authored some anti-proliferation treaty? Did I miss something or are they making crap up again?

200 Noam Chumpski  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:10:17am

All that Obama and Biden have are stories about how strong their parents were and how they suffered.... Palin beats them on that first-person experience as well.

Jeesh. Sucks to be a Democrat.

201 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:10:34am

Oh this is tooooo rich...savor this one lizards:

poster on kos:

Proves McCain is nothing more than an opportunist
Proves McCain is nothing more than an opportunist and that this woman has an ego far above her station. What in God's green earth makes this woman think she is ready to be President should the situation arise? Why in the world would she think for a skinny minute she is prepared for that. Obviously she is also delusional!

Obama needs to get all over this....

202 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:10:36am

re: #131 really grumpy big dog Johnson

C-SPAN is replaying the Obamafest from last night. We know which side their bread is buttered on.

No, they know where their noses are.
And that ain't butter they're smelling.

203 Vergeltung  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:10:47am

re: #180 doppelganglander

I dropeed a $100 spot 2 weeks ago via mail, and will do it again today after this wonderful VP selection!

204 de La Valette  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:10:48am

re: #150 Golem Akbar

As Governor of Alaska, she has a lot more day-to-day management of Foreign Relationships then one would immediately think;

- lots of Fisheries and Marine Resource issues (Russia, Canada, Japan, Korea, Philippines, etc.)
- a complex relationship with Canada
- just negotiated an international pipeline deal
- high percentage of Native Americans with some sovereign rights, and
- lots of transient international workers.

205 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:10:54am

re: #146 really grumpy big dog Johnson

I don't think she's quaking in her boots.


I don't want her shaking in her boots, but I hope she's prepared. I know nothing about her other than the glowing bios that have been coming out. The pressure will be high. This ain't alaska politics.

She will probably be on all of the Sunday talk shows, so we should have a better feel for that next week.

206 joncelli  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:10:56am

re: #167 Piglet-U93

FLOOD of contributions, I'll bet. Republicans are excited for the first time in a long time.

207 Miss Molly  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:11:11am

Alaska is one of the "57" states Obama. And, Sarah is the GOVERNOR of this State and an extremely competent one. Way to go "Sarah" because I think you blind sided Obama and he might actually be a little afraid of you -- he should be!

208 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:11:16am

re: #174 armytramp

I've got a girl crush on Palin.

And her hubby is hot.

Just sayin'.

And the Kos kids who attack her for having a Downs syndrome child, it just proves what I have been observing about a lot of self described liberals: no true compassion for their fellow human beings.

Some are sexist, racist, and prejudiced to the core. Everything they claim only describes Republicans.

I'm sure that they are highly critical that she chose to birth this child. Maybe they should say that to her face, in person. I hate gutless liberals, and believe me, that's pretty much what they are.

209 Golem Akbar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:11:22am

re: #193 stanleymberg

Folks, this pick is genius. This is the hail mary pass, yes, but it's going to be caught in the end zone after being tipped up in the air by both teams. OK, enough with the analogy...

Here's why it's genius - because all the elitist Obama-philes in the media (mostly men) who pissed off Hillary voters with their sexism and elitism and put-downs of small towns and guns and religion are going to step in their own doo-doo with this....their condescension toward Sarah Palin will be their own undoing. Because THAT is what will piss off women voters enough to get a whole BUNCH of them to vote for McCain.

John McCain, chess-master. This is a checkmate type move. Now watch as the snobs on the Left step into the trap and reveal themselves to be the elitists they really are.

I can't even believe how brilliant it is. But you doubters, you'll see....the trap has been set, and the Left is about to step right in it. Nice!


From your fingers to G-d's ears.

210 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:11:30am

Palin will convince McCain to change his position on drilling in ANWAR and that will be a winner with the voters.

And being an Alaskan, she will also be able to make the case covincingly to the swing voters who may be on the fence when it comes to ANWAR.

211 Edouard  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:11:31am

re: #178 mich-again

This is the kind of idiocy that is flowing like a river from the KosKid Keyboards today .


She's anti-woman? That's the party line?

They got nothin'. Absolutely nothin'. They're grasping at straws.

Palin has just thrown the Dems for a big loss. For you old-time Dallas Cowboys fans, she is the new Too Tall Jones of this campaign.

212 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:11:49am

re: #204 de La Valette

As Governor of Alaska, she has a lot more day-to-day management of Foreign Relationships then one would immediately think;

- lots of Fisheries and Marine Resource issues (Russia, Canada, Japan, Korea, Philippines, etc.)
- a complex relationship with Canada
- just negotiated an international pipeline deal
- high percentage of Native Americans with some sovereign rights, and
- lots of transient international workers.

All those issues are way over Obama's pay grade!

213 mich-again  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:12:02am

Funny how earlier this month the Obama crowd was cooing over Sarah Palin because she actually said a few kind words about Obama's energy plan, (the part about expanding natural gas production in Alaska.)

214 jcm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:12:29am

re: #199 Nevergiveup

This Obama broad on FOX just said Obama co-authored some anti-proliferation treaty? Did I miss something or are they making crap up again?

Co-signer, I think that's Lugar's legislation. One of those pie in the sky get ride of nukes ideas..

215 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:12:35am

re: #198 Dripping Sarcasm

Wait a minute, besides cutting "attack dog" Biden's legs off at the knees, I just realized something....

Sarah Palin is the "Anti-Pelosi"! The Pelosi Neutralizer! Yes! I barely know her and I'm loving our next Vice President!


She's also the anti-Cheney...at least when it comes to charm.

216 lifeofthemind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:12:37am

Some of Obama's Hollywood advisors are running around for a copy of North to Alaska but will end up with Abbot and Costello's Lost in Alaska. Another is interviewing the production team from Northern Exposure. The arts graduate learns from The Edge that they are all crazy up there and finally some old guy assures them he remembers Jimmy Stewart in the Far Country and all that goes into Alaska is bacon and whiskey and all that comes out of Alaska is gold and dance hall floozies.

217 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:13:06am

re: #130 Typicalwhitey

The kos kids are actually making comments about her down syndrome son!


I am about to blow my cover over there! I have a special needs niece and this is unforgivable!

They don't want kids for themselves
Children are punishments to those that have them so they don't understand why anybody wants them. They can sorta see people who want to have one or two, but as icky as they are, why would anyone want five?!?

They don't want kids for their neighbors.
Also, children are resource consumers and carbon footprint makers, so they don't want their neighbors having many either. Zero is preferable, but they can kinda let people slide on one or two, as long as they recycle and turn off the water while brushing their teeth. But five?! That's just a selfish waste of earthly resources.

So of course, if they see people only as burdens on the world, never for the simple value of human life, or for the wonders they can contribute, they cannot fathom who would purposefully choose to bring a bigger "burden" into existance.

Scratch a liberal policy, find anti-human life at its core.

218 musicman  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:13:08am

re: #196 Son of the Black Dog

It's been deleted!

219 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:13:12am

I guess the Obamabots figure they have miscalculated. Here's the "new and improved" statement from the Obama campaign, "congratulating" Governor Sarah Palin on her nomination for Vice President of the United States of America -

Dem Ticket On Palin: "Old Barriers Are Falling"

Barack Obama and Joe Biden issued a joint statement a few moments ago welcoming Sarah Palin to the WH contest:

“We send our congratulations to Governor Sarah Palin and her family on her designation as the republican nominee for Vice President. It is yet another encouraging sign that old barriers are falling in our politics. While we obviously have differences over how best to lead this country forward Governor Palin is an admirable person and will add a compelling new voice to this campaign."

220 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:13:13am

re: #214 jcm

Co-signer, I think that's Lugar's legislation. One of those pie in the sky get ride of nukes ideas..

So all bullshit no reality?

221 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:13:37am
She's no Hillary Clinton

Do you really want to pursue that argument?

/bring it on dumb talking points regurgitator person

222 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:13:45am

re: #167 Piglet-U93

The McCain website is overloaded "Server is too busy" except for the first page and lesser used features.

[Link: www.johnmccain.com...]


Contribution page up and running.

223 really grumpy big dog Johnson[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:13:52am
224 GreenDroll  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:14:04am

I am in now, as McCain may be showing some management skill after all. Let us see if the gender/race issue is as important as the left has made it out to be. A white guy and a white woman vs one and a half white men......
Shouldn't even be close.

225 lostlakehiker  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:14:17am

re: #130 Typicalwhitey

The kos kids are actually making comments about her down syndrome son!

I am about to blow my cover over there! I have a special needs niece and this is unforgivable!

If you're 100% committed to Right To Life, what choice do you have?

We would never have dared to risk a late-30's child if amniocentesis and abortion in the event of Down syndrome had not been an option. The strain on the family would have blown the lid off, ruining the chances of our other children.

Still, the odds were 20 to 1 or better that the child would have been just fine. Bearing and raising children such as her other four, and such as the more likely result of a fifth pregnancy, is a contribution to society, and Palin will not leave it to the State to provide the financial resources for the long term support of the unfortunate fifth child.

226 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:14:24am

re: #140 DeafDog

I guess it's fun to be excited, but this pick is risky. Palin has never been through a national campaign and does not understand how much she will be pilloried.

Something tells me that this woman has a core of stainless steel.

227 kansas  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:14:40am

re: #7 Killgore Trout

The problem is that now cuts both ways. It makes it harder for McCain to attack Obama's lack of experience. Experience (or lack of) may just have become a moot issue.

Moot? Obama is running for the top slot and has none. Can't Palin get some OJT before McCain drops over.

228 brent  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:14:48am

Mayor of 9,000...

Isn't that exactly 9,000 more than you've ever led in anything but a reading from the book of "What's Wrong with Amerikka"?

Go back to the parthenon, Zeusy-baby...

229 Kenneth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:14:51am

Ace responds to the Obama campaign:

Just curious: Before Obama was a junior senator for sixteen months before he decided he knew enough to be President, he was a state legislator.

How many people did he represent? What was the size of his district? 15,000? 20,000? Is this the hill he wants to die on?

And note, once again, that Palin's experience was as the executive of that small town, the leader, the top dog, the decider, the chief law enforcement officer, whereas Obama was... a backbenching nobody in a body of hundreds, none of whom had ultimate responsibility for anything they did.

She governed that town; Obama merely represented his district in committee.

Oh, and he was corrupt. She wasn't.

I do admit he has more experience dealing with terrorists first hand... but we don't need to talk about William Ayers and his Manson-enthusiast wife Bernadette Dohrn right now.

Perfect.

230 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:14:52am
231 jcm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:15:43am

re: #220 Nevergiveup

So all bullshit no reality?

re: #220 Nevergiveup

So all bullshit no reality?

232 musicman  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:16:10am

Anybody see this from the DNC Website? The Next Cheney She wasn't even on their radar.

233 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:16:11am

Rush is saying that you will see people posting against her down syndromes son.

He doesn't know it yet, but they already are.

234 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:16:25am

This is a solid pick, although at first I worried about because of the experience thing. However, I'd rather have her "inexperience" then a Chicago machine politician.

235 Thanos  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:16:30am

I am here to eat some crow. I argued with several other lizards on this, saying that there wasn't any way this pick would happen due to realpolitik of McCain needing to pull more populous states than Alaska.

Instead I am both amazed and proud that principle won over pandering, and that a Governor from my state will become the next Vice President of the United States.

Kudos to all those lizards who were pulling for Sarah in the comments, I just didn't believe it would happen. This impresses me even more about McCain.

236 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:16:45am

re: #199 Nevergiveup

This Obama broad on FOX just said Obama co-authored some anti-proliferation treaty? Did I miss something or are they making crap up again?

It is essentially true. He and Lugar co-wrote the amendment.

237 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:16:57am

re: #215 Ringo the Gringo

She's also the anti-Cheney...at least when it comes to charm.

She's Dick Cheney without the Dick!

(Hopefully she won't shoot anyone ;~)

238 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:17:18am

re: #207 Miss Molly

Alaska is one of the "57" states Obama. And, Sarah is the GOVERNOR of this State and an extremely competent one. Way to go "Sarah" because I think you blind sided Obama and he might actually be a little afraid of you -- he should be!

I think he is more than a little afraid of her. His campaign issued a negative statement within minutes of the time that it was confirmed that she would be the choice - even before McCain had introduced Sarah Palin. Then Obama made a further negative comment afterwards. And half his campaign bots have been on TV dissing her.

Now that it is apparent that they are being taken for a ship of rude, boorish fools with no manners or class, they have issued a "congratulatory" note.

The difference between John McCain and Barrak Hussein Obama could not be more clearly illustrated than in the actions the two men have taken in the last twenty four hours.

239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:17:25am

Guns, Baby's and Jesus

Hot Damn!

-Rush Limbaugh

240 maddogg  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:17:27am

re: #201 Typicalwhitey


"Oh this is tooooo rich...savor this one lizards:

poster on kos:

Proves McCain is nothing more than an opportunist
Proves McCain is nothing more than an opportunist and that this woman has an ego far above her station. What in God's green earth makes this woman think she is ready to be President should the situation arise? Why in the world would she think for a skinny minute she is prepared for that. Obviously she is also delusional!

Obama needs to get all over this...."

Man, you can almost smell the fear......:)

241 jcbunga  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:17:28am

The whiney brats need a CHANGE...of their diapers. And she's just the one who can do it...she's got 5 kids and still finds time to run a government.

242 kuffar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:17:30am

re: #99 jill e

It is also the anniversary of Women getting the right to vote.

243 Max Darkside  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:17:41am

re: #16 galloping granny

Oh my goodness listen to the Obamabots spin, spin, spin - she can't pull over those Hillary voters!

/The female newsanchors seem really enthusiastic about her.

The Hillary STAMPEDE from The Messia over to McCain is deafening...

[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]

244 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:18:06am

re: #210 Ringo the Gringo

Palin will convince McCain to change his position on drilling in ANWAR and that will be a winner with the voters.

And being an Alaskan, she will also be able to make the case covincingly to the swing voters who may be on the fence when it comes to ANWAR.

Now that is a vote winner!

245 Blastforth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:18:13am

Palin is an affirmative action selection and the Dems can't be heard to complain. But I don't believe in affirmative action. You pick the best person for the job.

246 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:18:14am

re: #178 mich-again

This is the kind of idiocy that is flowing like a river from the KosKid Keyboards today .


She's anti-woman? That's the party line?

Republican blacks aren't "really" black and Republican women aren't "really" women, to them.

In other words, they presume all blacks, women, etc. think and act a certain way, so if someone thinks differently, that someone cannot belong to that group.

Classic bigotry, thinking that an entire group is alike.

247 Charles  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:18:15am

I have a new report from zombie, but traffic is so high I haven't been able to post it - keeps timing out scaling the images.

248 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:18:53am

re: #235 Thanos

I am here to eat some crow. I argued with several other lizards on this, saying that there wasn't any way this pick would happen due to realpolitik of McCain needing to pull more populous states than Alaska.

Instead I am both amazed and proud that principle won over pandering, and that a Governor from my state will become the next Vice President of the United States.

Kudos to all those lizards who were pulling for Sarah in the comments, I just didn't believe it would happen. This impresses me even more about McCain.


No need to eat crow...here have some moose lol.

I am THRILLED with this choice.
I have to say, and don't make fun of me and call me an obamabot, but I did get chills and a few tears watching her speech.

Very big moment for some of us....ahem....seasoned women.

249 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:19:07am

re: #247 Charles

Whee!
(for you have received the post, NOT for the problems)

250 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:19:16am

re: #239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Guns, Babies, and Jesus

Hot Damn!

-Rush Limbaugh


Gosh, I hope the Goddess didn't see that!

251 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:19:27am

Let the Kos Kidz post about her Downs son. They just went from ghoul to super-ghoul status. Ah fuck, they were already there years ago. Can you say "pond scum"?

252 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:19:59am

The main theme of the koskids is that Sarah is a "token" choice.
How ironic is that?

253 right_wing2  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:20:18am

I can't even imagine how much it'll frost the left if the first woman as VP is a conservative Republican!

254 Max Darkside  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:20:19am

re: #247 Charles

I have a new report from zombie, but traffic is so high I haven't been able to post it - keeps timing out scaling the images.

Oh, you mean the [x]'s all over aren't my NSFW filter (GRIN)? It'll take more than 5 hr energy drink for the hampsters today!

255 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:20:29am

re: #235 Thanos

Indeed- I was skeptical it would happen, but I've never been happier to tip my hat to my fellow Lizards who were trying to show the way. McCain at Saddlebrook was winning me over. Today- I'm completely convinced.

McCAIN/PALIN 08!

256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:20:48am

re: #251 EIDE_Interface

There is no greater hug than the hug of a person with Down's Syndrome. Period.

257 snowcrash  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:20:51am

re: #243 Max Darkside

Beautiful comments!

258 tryptic67  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:21:13am

PALIN SHOULD CHALLENGE OBAMA TO DEBATE their relative foreign policy experience and credentials.

I would love to see that. She already is going to rip poor old Slow Joe Biden to shreds in the vice-presidential debate.

You'd think an "articulate and clean" guy (not my words!) with all that experience, appeal and charisma like Barack would welcome a debate with the GOP veep nominee.

She would eat his lunch.

Obama already ducked a debate challenge from McCain. How do you think he'd look if he refused to debtate the "former mayor" of a town of "just" 9,000? (contrasting Obama's sole executive experience as the figurehead editor of the Harvard Law Review).

Our small town mayor would whup your big-time community organizer.

259 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:21:18am

So she doesn't come from the fleshpots of Chicago "community organizing". And this should bother most of us...because?

260 reine.de.tout  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:21:18am

re: #252 Typicalwhitey

The main theme of the koskids is that Sarah is a "token" choice.
How ironic is that?

She sure didn't sound very "token" during her speech this morning, imo!

261 LeonidasOfSparta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:21:24am

re: #230 taxfreekiller

never mind... I was pondering black holes and their propensity for sucking everything around them into nothingness but it might be unwise to discuss theories of the universe in relation to BO.

262 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:21:24am

re: #247 Charles

I have a new report from zombie, but traffic is so high I haven't been able to post it - keeps timing out scaling the images.

SCALING ,,,

(way too easy )

263 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:21:26am

AP reporting that Palins experience rivals Obamas
LOL

264 maddogg  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:21:26am

Palin speaks to newsmax.

265 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:21:27am

My gut feeling is that Hillary isn't too happy about this. She may want McCain to win this time around, but Palin as VP may become the anti-Hillary candidate in 2012 or 2016.

266 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:21:29am

re: #196 Son of the Black Dog

Yeah, well son A-hole named Reggie on the previous thread (comment #247) just wrote that Palin has 4.25 kids, which I interpret as a derogatory reference to her Downs Syndrome child. I'm trying to ding it down and report it as objectionable, but the system isn't responding.


I downdinged it and reported it. It's now been deleted. Thank you Charles. Reggie is a total b*****d.

267 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:21:42am

re: #250 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gosh, I hope the Goddess didn't see that!

What's it worth to you for me NOT to bring it to her attention?

/hey, KosKiddie, wanna see a REAL opportunist? Huh?

268 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:21:48am

the left are so devoid of originality and actual dialog all they can spew is DNC talking point: "McCain is Bush - he's Bush II - She's Cheney..."
Ad nauseam ....


So tired.

269 joncelli  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:21:50am

Can't even get to the Hillary forum. Lots of servers on their knees today.

270 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:21:59am

re: #71 wccawa

Not to sound TOO over the top, but...

I'm getting the sense that this is an historic moment- for the GOP, and for US politics in general.

Just watching Palin give that speech, I can only imagine the fear that is running rampant in Obama's camp right now. She would not only handle Biden in a debate, I honestly think she'd KO the Obamessiah.

Perfect pick. Perfect time. Life is good.

I heard the news about Palin in the car and was so psyched. I arrived home and told my husband, "I finally feel like a part of the GOP." I've always voted Republican but it did get frustrating waiting for a woman to be on the ticket. This is definitely a historic day.

271 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:22:15am

Mark my words: Joe Biden will soon be under the bus. He'll withdraw from the race for "personal" reasons next month.

272 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:22:23am

re: #226 Son of the Black Dog

Something tells me that this woman has a core of stainless steel.

I hope you're right, but I've never seen LGF this gushing for anyone except maybe General Petreus or Ambassodor Bolten. (and both of those two guys have looong track records). This level of Palin-love makes me nervous, but it's fun for a day or two.

273 itsajeepthing  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:22:28am

Dem logic: Vote for the V.P. with the most experience, however, forget experience when selecting the President..it's about change.

274 mattm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:22:50am

re: #151 ciaospirit

I loved the fact that her flag pin was HUGE. No squinting trying to figure out if it was even a flag. I still haven't figured out if Obama's teeny pin was actually a flag.

Even in HD I am not 100% sure it was.

275 Piglet-U93  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:22:54am

re: #222 newsjunkie_ky

Contribution page up and running.

Yes, I was able to get in and make my first political contribution the first one ever in my whole life. $100 and I am currently unemployed.

276 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:23:05am

re: #233 Typicalwhitey

Rush is saying that you will see people posting against her down syndromes son.

He doesn't know it yet, but they already are.

That will absolutely destroy Obama's campaign when they do. There are far too many people in this country who have born and raised children with disabilities - or adopted some.

277 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:23:09am

re: #265 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey

My gut feeling is that Hillary isn't too happy about this. She may want McCain to win this time around, but Palin as VP may become the anti-Hillary candidate in 2012 or 2016.

Thanks! I hadn't thought of that.

278 rush ho  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:23:40am

I was at the rally...everyone in Dayton Ohio loves her. The place went crazy when he announced her name! I don't know if it came across on TV, but it was high energy. This is a great pick and this "toss up" state I think is now RED.

279 de La Valette  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:23:44am

re: #229 Kenneth

It's like McCain caught them off-guard and all of their prepared PR material to was for Mitt. Later Obama and Biden made a gracious professional statement - but they should have had one in the can. She was certainly on a lot of short lists.

280 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:23:47am

re: #235 Thanos

I have the same mea culpa.

281 filetandrelease  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:23:49am

re: #235 Thanos

Thank you.

282 reine.de.tout  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:23:55am

re: #272 DeafDog

I hope you're right, but I've never seen LGF this gushing for anyone except maybe General Petreus or Ambassodor Bolten. (and both of those two guys have looong track records). This level of Palin-love makes me nervous, but it's fun for a day or two.

It's the "Palin-love" PLUS socking it to the Obama campaign. We've got 2 things going on . . .

283 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:24:20am

re: #247 Charles

I have a new report from zombie, but traffic is so high I haven't been able to post it - keeps timing out scaling the images.

Not that you need any assistance in the matter, but are you pre-scaling the images and then putting them out? It makes a HUGE difference. At least it did on my site.

284 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:24:24am

re: #271 Dirk Diggler

Mark my words: Joe Biden will soon be under the bus. He'll withdraw from the race for "personal" reasons next month.

If they tried to pull that and put Hillary on the ticket after it's been well publicized she wasn't even vetted.... I think it would backfire and reek of pandering.

285 Edouard  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:24:44am

re: #245 Blastforth

Palin is an affirmative action selection and the Dems can't be heard to complain. But I don't believe in affirmative action. You pick the best person for the job.

This goes beyond affirmative action. This goes to down-to-earth character as well as governing experience, and the natural ability to connect with regular people who have families and want to be proud of America.

When you really think about it, you'd be hard pressed to think of another choice, male or female, that McCain had who exhibits those qualities all together.

286 LeonidasOfSparta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:24:46am

Laura Ingram this morning said that "our lady from Alaska" had the following TELLING nickname in high school, "Sarah the Baracuda"--
Go get 'em Baracuda, we got your back to the gates of hell and beyond.

287 joncelli  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:24:54am

Okay, now I got in, and they're ecstatic. I don't know how many actual votes that entails, but a lot of them seem bitter about the Dem party's treatment of Hillary and excited about Sarah. This might draw the PUMAs after all...

288 reine.de.tout  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:25:10am

re: #284 Sharmuta

If they tried to pull that and put Hillary on the ticket after it's been well publicized she wasn't even vetted.... I think it would backfire and reek of pandering.

Yes . . . but would they care?

289 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:25:20am

re: #279 de La Valette

It's like McCain caught them off-guard and all of their prepared PR material to was for Mitt. Later Obama and Biden made a gracious professional statement - but they should have had one in the can. She was certainly on a lot of short lists.

Yes, I love the gracious statement after the first one insulting her and small town America.

I've seen elementary school carnivals run more smoothly than the Big O's campaign.

290 jayhoch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:25:42am

re: #180 doppelganglander

add me to the list

291 vapig  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:25:45am

I am so terribly glad that McCain chose this woman! I really had written him off as someone who would just consistantly make the wrong decisions. Good for him! This is the right woman for the right job at the right time. I am also looking forward to her as our first woman prez in 2012!

292 lifeofthemind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:25:46am

Time to eat and hope the servers settle down. Hope someone is keeping an eye on Putin and Kim and Ahmasmadasahatter while America is busy.

293 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:26:01am

This has probably been discussed, but isn't it odd to argue that she has insufficient experience as only the mayor of 9000 at one time.

Because now she is the governor.

That would be like saying that at one time, Obama didn't even have a high school degree, so he isn't qualified to be president.

I mean, he has one now, and she has executive experience now.

294 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:26:02am

re: #237 eschew_obfuscation

She's Dick Cheney without the Dick!

(Hopefully she won't shoot anyone ;~)

Maybe she and Cheney will go hunting together sometime. She'd better keep her head down and wear lots of orange. :)

295 JnT  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:26:10am

McCain selecting Palin is brilliant. The women (both blacks and whites)in and around my office are thrilled that this is the first real female candidate (sorry, Ferraro was a token selection against Reagan) who has a chance at becoming POTUS.

296 joncelli  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:26:36am

re: #272 DeafDog

We need to get this out of our system. We have September and October in front of us, and the NYT will have an October surprise as sure as we're sitting here. Celebrate now, but make sure the bunker is stocked.

297 Thanos  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:26:36am

Charles, since you put in the changes for what's hot image pulling from the other server seems to be a problem, it's the gifs etc that are taking two eternities to load. You might want to look at that this weekend.

298 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:27:10am

re: #285 Edouard

This goes beyond affirmative action. This goes to down-to-earth character as well as governing experience, and the natural ability to connect with regular people who have families and want to be proud of America.

When you really think about it, you'd be hard pressed to think of another choice, male or female, that McCain had who exhibits those qualities all together.


I didn't know much about her until I started reading up yesterday. I was pulling for Mitt Romney as VP but then she sounds more conservative and more importantly, has been more conservative in the past, than Mitt. Especially when it comes down to firearms. Mitt shot a squirrel once, Sarah hunted moose. Big difference.

299 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:27:57am

Woman on Rush just now hoping that Palin will be seen breast-feeding during the campaign.
/not gonna comment, not gonna comment.

300 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:28:02am

re: #288 reine.de.tout

Yes . . . but would they care?

Reading the hillaryforums- yeah. I don't think they'd buy it this late in the game.

301 Thanos  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:28:18am
302 ContraJihadi  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:28:23am

re: #105 ggt

We need a campaign poster with Sarah holding a shotgun in the Alaskan Wilderness. REAL WOMEN will love it. (and a few men, I suppose)

She bagged a moose. Shades of Teddy Roosevelt.

303 BackwardsBoy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:28:24am

This is way beyond good! There is absolutely no way The Vapid One can criticize her experience without looking like the total hypocrite that he is. This really turns things around for McCain, for whom I expect a far greater and longer lasting bounce in the polls. What a master stroke of brilliance. Keep talking, Obama, your words will just keep digging a larger hole for you to try and climb out of.

304 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:29:23am

OT:
Nigerian kidnappers are demanding $12 million for release of Israeli businessman.

305 Fredlike  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:29:38am

Love Palin as the pick. I was afraid her lack of experience might sink her.

She has made some mistakes in governing Alaska but there is no doubt she will kick butt in DC. Probably the Republicans have the most to fear, she cleaned house among the Republicans in Alaska.

Go McCain-Palin

306 Vanderleun  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:29:53am

the official statement from Obama spokesman Bill Burton:

Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.

I count that as a concession speech.

307 reine.de.tout  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:29:56am

..

308 Thanos  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:30:08am

re: #299 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Woman on Rush just now hoping that Palin will be seen breast-feeding during the campaign.
/not gonna comment, not gonna comment.

Oh sure... turn this into a boob thread...

309 Dianna  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:30:47am

re: #247 Charles

I have a new report from zombie, but traffic is so high I haven't been able to post it - keeps timing out scaling the images.

I wait with bated breath.

I guess I'll go to the post office so I'm not refreshing every five seconds. That cannot help the hamsters.

310 Muadib  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:30:48am

The 0bama campaign effectively shot itself in both knees with that stupid statement.

311 bill shears  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:31:01am

The Obamans are likely wanting a do-over on their VP choice right now. Go Sarah!

312 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:31:21am

re: #193 stanleymberg

John McCain, chess-master. This is a checkmate type move. Now watch as the snobs on the Left step into the trap and reveal themselves to be the elitists they really are.

I can't even believe how brilliant it is. But you doubters, you'll see....the trap has been set, and the Left is about to step right in it. Nice!

The real genius of this move was that McCain made it such that the Dems and the MSM can't do ANYTHING without stepping in it. I believe chess players call this a "fork".

313 LeonidasOfSparta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:31:24am

re: #301 Thanos
Thanos, you're so good!
What a great song--that should be her theme song. Gives me the chill that Obama WISHES he gave anyone, except that idiot on TV.

314 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:31:34am

re: #248 Typicalwhitey

No need to eat crow...here have some moose.

Now that's meaty instead of gamey.

315 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:31:49am

re: #245 Blastforth

Palin is an affirmative action selection and the Dems can't be heard to complain. But I don't believe in affirmative action. You pick the best person for the job.

He did, dipshit.

316 jcbunga  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:32:01am

I'm not from there, but I'll wager anyone from Alaska will say 9,000 Alaskans are worth 100 of us non-polar bear chasers. I mean, they have polar bears running around loose up there...let PETA try hugging one of them monsters.

317 LeonidasOfSparta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:32:09am

re: #308 Thanos
you knew that this was inevitable

318 reine.de.tout  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:32:21am

Poll time at Michelle Malkin: Are You Pumped?

319 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:32:24am

McCain will get a huge bounce out of this, while Obama will get a little tiny dribble out of the convention.

320 snowcrash  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:33:07am

Looks like the Democrats strategy is to let women do the criticism of Palin on TV today.

321 Sizzlack  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:33:21am

I give Biden a week before he calls Palin something derogatory...maybe like "honey" or "broad" or "sugar-tits".

322 Spiny Norman  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:33:32am

re: #243 Max Darkside

The Hillary STAMPEDE from The Messia over to McCain is deafening...

[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]

Are we sure those aren't Freepers posting on the Hillary forum?

Geez.

323 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:33:49am

I never thought that John McCain would make me proud....
I never thought I'd be excited to vote for John McCain....

I never thought I'd be so happy for John McCain to prove me wrong.

324 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:33:55am

McCain hit one right straight out of the park with Hillary supporters!

325 Irene NYC  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:34:03am

Man, I can't wait to see Sarah on The View. Talk about heads exploding.
;)

326 rightwinger3  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:34:10am

re: #251 EIDE_Interface

Let the Kos Kidz post about her Downs son. They just went from ghoul to super-ghoul status. Ah fuck, they were already there years ago. Can you say "pond scum"?

How about "Primordial Ooze". P'sOS all of them.

327 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:34:12am

Roger L. Simon:

Watching Obama’s display last night I was pretty depressed. Unlike some commentators (Bill Kristol, Jay Nordlinger) I found it the most conventional imaginable speech, as if the tired ideas of a Walter Mondale were dressed in a production by Zhang Yimou. Yes, the whole affair put me in mind of the Beijing Olympics - all flash and no substance - except they didn’t have a director of the level of the brilliant Zhang, just a lot of fireworks and a pompous set. Obama looked angry to me.

Meanwhile, McCain has picked a woman. I don’t know enough about Sarah Palin (of course I know some and will know a lot more, I’m sure) but John McCain has once again shown he is willing to, in fact eager to, move in a positive and (relatively) unexpected direction. He is his own man. Obama - the agent of change - picked the most conventional of the conventional. But then his speech was the same way. The media, of course, swallowed like eager, brainless adherents - another indication that liberalism is not only dead, it’s decomposed.

UPDATE: Speaking of walking the walking, although she opposes same-sex marriage, which they all do, Palin seems to be by far the most advanced of all four candidates on gay rights. She’s actually put them into law. Way to go.

328 Golem Akbar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:34:19am

re: #204 de La Valette

As Governor of Alaska, she has a lot more day-to-day management of Foreign Relationships then one would immediately think;

- lots of Fisheries and Marine Resource issues (Russia, Canada, Japan, Korea, Philippines, etc.)
- a complex relationship with Canada
- just negotiated an international pipeline deal
- high percentage of Native Americans with some sovereign rights, and
- lots of transient international workers.


She is a true asset on many levels. Optimism is rising. This may turn out to be a fun campaign, after all.

329 CommonCents  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:34:25am

re: #305 Fredlike

Love Palin as the pick. I was afraid her lack of experience might sink her.

She has made some mistakes in governing Alaska but there is no doubt she will kick butt in DC. Probably the Republicans have the most to fear, she cleaned house among the Republicans in Alaska.

Go McCain-Palin

When was the last time someone in the White House did any "cleaning" of Congress? The crooks will remain, unfortunately. I'd like to see them use the influence of the WH to prop of Jeff Flake in the House. He's a good one that keeps getting walked on by the 'elites'.

330 yesandno  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:34:27am

I am really waiting for Pelosi to say something stupid...she always does. She can't talk about the progess of women when she undercut Hillary as she did and wlll now demean another woman, no doubt. Like most feminists, it is never really about women...it is about them alone.

And when McCain wins, this would mean that she won't be the most powerful women in the US...

Vote McCain/Palin....a win, win in my book....

And in the sweep, maybe they can keep Congress within a reasonable margin to avoid over-rides....

Love it...the dynamic has changed.

331 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:34:35am

re: #312 Son of the Black Dog

As in...Put a fork in it.

332 Dianna  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:34:48am

re: #320 snowcrash

That's just sensible on their side.

333 Charles  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:35:10am

re: #297 Thanos

Charles, since you put in the changes for what's hot image pulling from the other server seems to be a problem, it's the gifs etc that are taking two eternities to load. You might want to look at that this weekend.

I think that's just another result of the high traffic.

334 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:35:11am

WTF ... doesn't Biden have experience with mousse too?! Then the playing field's still LEVEL. ... uh, what?

... oh, never mind

335 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:35:47am

re: #243 Max Darkside

The Hillary STAMPEDE from The Messia over to McCain is deafening...


[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]

PUMAs - vote for the Cougar!

336 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:35:48am

re: #269 joncelli

Can't even get to the Hillary forum. Lots of servers on their knees today.


I did and they are all very happy about Palin.
PUMAs RULE!

337 unclassifiable  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:36:15am

re: #232 musicman

Gimme some more of that far-sighted recon!

338 WriterMom  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:36:27am

re: #271 Dirk Diggler

Hi Dirk...

339 Dianna  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:36:29am

re: #323 Sharmuta

I never thought that John McCain would make me proud....
I never thought I'd be excited to vote for John McCain....

I never thought I'd be so happy for John McCain to prove me wrong.

It's funny, I agree with you, but I really had been hoping that McCain would make me this happy. I've been watching the last three weeks with something approaching awe - all those ads, and they've been so very good.

340 neocon hippie  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:36:54am

Show/Hide Top-Rated Links greyed-out and inactive in Firefox 2, but ok in IE7

341 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:36:56am

re: #287 joncelli

Okay, now I got in, and they're ecstatic. I don't know how many actual votes that entails, but a lot of them seem bitter about the Dem party's treatment of Hillary and excited about Sarah. This might draw the PUMAs after all...

They are going over and donating money to McCain. That says it all right there.

342 Big Steve  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:37:00am

but does being governer of the 57th state count?

343 Hooray for Captain Spaulding  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:37:01am

Ok. I give up.
WHat is a PUMA?

344 WriterMom  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:37:06am

re: #196 Son of the Black Dog

That dude is lucky I didn't see the comment.

345 Captkirk35  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:37:12am

re: #271 Dirk Diggler

That is my prediction too.. I see the polls looking very negative for the Obama crew, and finding some way to move Biden off the ticket to make way for Hillary. When they get desperate, I predict nothing is off the table to get the female vote back.

346 Eowyn2  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:37:13am

re: #24 Shug

Yesterday , The Democratic Party put a former community organizer with zero foreign policy experience (except Merci Beaucoup ) an election away from the presidency.


oui

347 unclassifiable  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:37:57am

re: #318 reine.de.tout

The results are a hoot!

348 angst  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:37:57am

Well, this just caused me to go push the "donate now" button at the McCain/Palin website.

She's a social conservative. Patriot. Economic conservative. Reformer. Pro-life in a way few of us ever will be called to be. Well-spoken. Pretty. Nice family. Hard worker. Experience taking on the big boys and winning. Experience can be acquired. Character is pretty well set by the time you're in your forties.

Whatever happens, the buck would stop with Sarah Palin. Obama et al. would just have someone else pay the bill.

349 doppelganglander  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:37:57am

re: #203 Vergeltung

I dropeed a $100 spot 2 weeks ago via mail, and will do it again today after this wonderful VP selection!

Super! I'll add you to the list.

On a side note, I clicked the link to the Hillary forum. They are ecstatic! Nothing derogatory about Sarah's pro-life position, and a lot of appreciation for her gay rights record. She opposes same-sex marriage, but is very supportive of anti-discrimination efforts. Her first veto as Alaska's governor killed a bill to prohibit state employees from adding same-sex partners to their benefits. So in effect, she granted same-sex partner benefits to state employees. I like that stance, too.

350 theblakester  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:38:03am

#185 Sharmuta 8/29/08 11:04:59 am reply quote 2

re: #113 theblakester

Just because I'm not voting for Obama, doesn't make me a racist! But in an effort to not sound racist, I think we have crossed a line that will never allow us to nominated two white guys for president and vice president again. This is disturbing to me since it may just keep us from ever electing the two most qualified people to office ever again. I'm afraid this will only lead to more affirmative action type politics. I mean why not put a black women in a wheelchair, that is a lesbian. Where will this madness stop?

Yeah- God forbid McCain pick an independent, intelligent woman who's taken on government waste and energizes the base. He should have picked a fuddy-duddy we'd all yawn at. Give me a break.

Sharmuta, I'm not trying to pic a fight, or to imply that she is not a worthy pic. I'm just thought that his pic would come down to a woman or Leiberman. Myself I'd liked to see Romney, but that would make the ticket to white guys and the left would have had a field day with it.

351 Sunlight  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:38:13am

re: #40 Charles

More than 5,000 online...

I want you and LGF to get to 150,000,000... how can you do that. LGF has changed my engagement with this country. I've lived in a blue state my entire adult life and have been extremely gratified to read your posts, the links and the comments... and to see the distinctions drawn with the VB and creationist surges. It's got me checking out our schools to see what's up.

352 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:38:15am

I'm re-listening to Palin on Rush. She is fabulous.
She fights against "the good ole' boy network" and "thanks but no thanks on that bridge to nowhere" . "we will build it ourselves"...

353 de La Valette  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:38:16am

re: #277 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I don't know. She is 100% dead for 2012 if Obama wins. If McCain wins with Palin; she becomes a rival - but by no means a lock to beat HRC in 2012.

I think HRC will be very careful with her statements regarding Palin.

354 JHW  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:38:16am

I love this choice, I've been hoping McCain would choose Gov. Palin. She's married to a guy that knows real blue-collar work and understands the "working-man" far, far better than the phony Democrats that always stick it to anyone not in a grievance group while constantly mouthing how they're for the little guy and against the "rich", otherwise known as anyone not dependent on the government.

355 HoosierHoops  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:38:20am

re: #218 musicman

It's been deleted!


GOOD! friggin out of line statement

356 LeonidasOfSparta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:38:31am

#330 " m really waiting for Pelosi to say something stupid...she always does" and make an appointment with the plastic surgeon again.
"Stretch Pelosi" has got to be feelin' the pain of all that oversurgery vs. Palin's natural beauty.

357 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:38:40am

re: #343 Hooray for Captain Spaulding

Ok. I give up.
WHat is a PUMA?

see this

358 joncelli  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:38:47am

re: #314 Cap'n DOC

Get some moose sausage! Great stuff. Tastes like...uh...moose sausage!

359 Pyrocles  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:38:52am

She'd never be invited on that show.

re: #325 Irene NYC

Man, I can't wait to see Sarah on The View. Talk about heads exploding.
;)

360 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:39:02am

re: #345 Captkirk35

That desperation may hurt the Obama campaign if they try to force Biden from the ticket. It will go to his judgment - or lack thereof. If they try to put Hillary on in Biden's stead, expect that very point to be raised.

361 just another four-letter word  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:39:09am

re: #140 DeafDog

I guess it's fun to be excited, but this pick is risky. Palin has never been through a national campaign and does not understand how much she will be pilloried.

Pillory away, dude. What's to be said that's bad about her? What has she got to hide?

Nuttin' honey. I think she can take the heat and dish it out if necessary.

Risky, my butt. Although I'd prefer Romney (he'll make a great Cabinet choice of some kind), she's got everything going for her and the Republican Party AND the Country. Quitcher bitchin'.

JAFLW

362 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:39:22am

re: #319 Cygnus

McCain will get a huge bounce out of this, while Obama will get a little tiny dribble out of the convention.

It will be interesting to see how much of the convention is spent 'introducing' Palin. If the RNC does it right, the country might mistake herfor Joan of Arc by this time next week.

363 Dianna  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:39:53am

re: #343 Hooray for Captain Spaulding

Ok. I give up.
WHat is a PUMA?

"Party Unity My A..."

364 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:40:06am

re: #324 galloping granny

McCain hit one right straight out of the park with Hillary supporters!

They have a new name for themselves DeMcCrats - graphic is on this page if anyone wants to grab it - [Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]

365 Eowyn2  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:40:11am

re: #323 Sharmuta

I never thought that John McCain would make me proud....
I never thought I'd be excited to vote for John McCain....

I never thought I'd be so happy for John McCain to prove me wrong.

this really is awesome.

THANK YOU JOHN

366 Sizzlack  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:40:14am

Do the Democrats really want to make this about "experience"?
Hmm, the Republicans can put a woman whom the Dems believe has no experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.
While the Democrats want to put a guy with no experience actually right up in the presidency.
Make any sense? Of course not!

367 angst  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:40:27am

re: #321 Sizzlack

I give Biden a week before he calls Palin something derogatory...maybe like "honey" or "broad" or "sugar-tits".

I can't wait until he does. Because I get the feeling Sarah Barracuda knows just how to handle a guy like that, and it isn't crying discrimination. It's firing right back at 'em.

She has not gotten to where she is in a state like Alaska by whining about sexism, believe me.

368 tradewind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:40:34am

re: #100 Tigger2005

Burnt moonbat, with a side of sock puppet.

369 WriterMom  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:40:37am

re: #209 Golem Akbar

GOLEM!

370 jwb7605  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:40:50am

re: #343 Hooray for Captain Spaulding

Ok. I give up.
WHat is a PUMA?

Party Unity My A**

371 A.W.  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:41:14am

Ya'll should check out the volokh conspiracy. they are quoting from the PUMA contingent of the Dem party (PUMA means Party Unity My A--), you know the people pissed off at the Dems for ditching Hil. The choice of Palin is a home run.

Beldar is ecstatic.

Even the receptionist in my office said she was a big Obama supporter, but this was a brilliant play.

And yes, Obama's initial response is stupid. First, Obama, do you really want to talk about experience. And it forgets that not all experience is created equal. Yes, she is light on experience, but when it comes to executive experience she has them all beat. And frankly that is more important. When I choose presidents, i prefer to have a governor. A vice president, even a mayor of a massive city (like NY), okay but something in the administrative branch.

McCain comes up second, because he commanded other pilots. Its not much but it beats the heck out of Noobius Maximus.

Watch for this in the veep debate. Biden comes off as boorish and overbearing toward Palin, and million of women jump ship that night for McCain. I would give it about 60% chance of happening.

Btw. Craig Fergusson came up with a funny term for her back before she was famous. "Naughty Alaskan Librarian." Heh.

History might record this as the day Obama lost the election. Oh, no, it will be because we are not good enough for him, not enlightened enough. I forgot most historians are liberals.

372 looking closely  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:41:16am

re: #174 armytramp

I've got a girl crush on Palin.


Yikes.

373 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:41:32am

re: #339 Dianna

It's funny, I agree with you, but I really had been hoping that McCain would make me this happy. I've been watching the last three weeks with something approaching awe - all those ads, and they've been so very good.

McCain's been a master the last few weeks, and this is the master stroke.

Interesting that this DNC was the first time the delegates were a majority of women- and they nominated a man, but it's our party that will break through the glass ceiling. I'm so damn proud, I'm beaming.

374 Max Darkside  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:41:43am

re: #322 Spiny Norman

Are we sure those aren't Freepers posting on the Hillary forum? Geez.

Almost seems like a freshly drilled oil well, gushing all over. I say this is one big torpedo in Barak's battleship. Very sly move and it will pull a large chunk of hillary voters, enough to probably make a difference, but the "60 day rule" applies.

375 Hanoch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:41:49am

Looks like the Obama campaign has some allies.

Here is an AP report on McCain's pick (first two paragraphs):

By STEVE QUINN and CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writers

JUNEAU, Alaska - In two short years, Sarah Palin moved from small-town mayor with a taste for mooseburgers to the governor's office and now — making history — to John McCain's side as the first female running mate on a Republican presidential ticket.

She has more experience catching fish than dealing with foreign policy or national affairs.

Nothing like straight, unbiased news reporting.

376 Big Steve  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:42:03am

Well talk about stealing the News Cycle......wow this selection has really put the Obama coronation in the round last night into the refridgerator covered in saran wrap.

377 Thanos  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:42:03am

re: #333 Charles

I think that's just another result of the high traffic.

Even though it's slowing us down I'm very happy about it. I remember all the miserable puke exiles to ignomity predicting your demise after taking on some of the ugly under the covers on the Republican side.

378 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:42:10am
379 RedPepper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:42:14am

It's a gimmick! McCain only picked Palin (totally against his usual instincts!) because she's a ... conservative !

At least Obama stuck to his principles !

Joe Biden has been a United States Senator since he was sworn in on January 3, 1973.

At the time, Barack Obama was 11 years old.

Oops. I meant to say, 11 years and five months!

“Change ... ” ; right, Barry ?

380 Captkirk35  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:42:15am

re: #360 lawhawk

they'll find some convenient excuse... they've got to be kicking themselves today for not picking Hillary.

381 Thanos  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:42:50am

/pimf "ignominity"

382 Colonel Panik  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:43:25am

re: #97 Ojoe

That's float plane ,

unless it has a boat hull and lands directly on the water in which case it is a

flying boat.

Catalina flying boat

The DeHavilland Beaver is the world's most popular bush plane.

No double entendres intended.

383 dhg4  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:43:27am

re: #110 JammieWearingFool

McCain had a classy ad to congratulate the empty suit last night and then you get a snide reaction like this from them.

Palin has blown their minds.

The comments have been superb.

JWF points out McCain's classy ad last night. Here was the Obama campaign's response:

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe -- who did not know the content of the ad until we read him the script -- just told us that the McCain ad is "a very nice gesture. We appreciate that. I wish more of his ads had that tone. But for tonight, we appreciate it and will congratulate him next week on his nomination."

Not a simple thank you, but a whine.

Then the Obama comes back and instead of showing the graciousness McCain showed the night before for a historic choice, disses Palin.

It wasn't just classless, it was stupid because it ended up highlighting Obama's biggest weakness: his lack of experience for the top job.

It's kind of like their announcement of Biden. Who's brilliant idea was it to send out the text message at 3AM? That just shouted, "We need an adult on the ticket because the guy running for president isn't ready for the 3AM phone call."

Just as the campaign thought they were sticking it Hillary last week, they figured they were sticking it to McCain this week. But both times they subjected Obama to self-inflicted wounds.

Back in January Krauthammer diagnosed Obama as suffering from gracelessness. It appears to have infected his whole campaign.

384 neocon hippie  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:43:33am

Furthurmore, while the entry form for spinoff links exists, the selection box for category does not, so I am unable to enter a new link.

385 gonecamping  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:44:09am

A brilliant choice which took the nobama camp completely by surprise. All that research and those carefully crafted responses to McCain picking Romney as VP was immediately worthless and the leftards are scrambling to find dirt to spew.

My eyes are watering from listening to the comments about lack of experience....heck. nobama wont even vote for or against issues when he is actually on the job...present is a cop out, straddle the fence, unable to actually make a decision, decision.

I think a long pass just went to the 10 yard line while nobama tripped on the 50 yd line (with his feet tangled in the toga).

Go McCain/Palin!

and of course the MSM is upset that they were in the dark as well.

386 slokat  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:44:15am

Breitbart has the speech video, for anyone that missed it Palin as VP

387 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:44:26am

re: #373 Sharmuta

McCain's been a master the last few weeks, and this is the master stroke.

Interesting that this DNC was the first time the delegates were a majority of women- and they nominated a man, but it's our party that will break through the glass ceiling. I'm so damn proud, I'm beaming.

The new campaign manager he hired (I forgot his name, but supposedly a Rove protege) made his campaign click.

388 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:44:36am

When Clinton was prez, kept hearing about women who had fantasies about him.

Sarah?

Hubba!

389 jamgarr  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:45:11am

Whatever her inexperience is, it'll be a heartbeat away - Barack's won't

390 Golem Akbar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:45:41am

re: #343 Hooray for Captain Spaulding

Ok. I give up.
WHat is a PUMA?


Party Unity my a** (Hillary fans)

391 wolfie  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:45:46am

re: #323 Sharmuta

He could have played it safe with No-Negative Pawlenty.
I would have been happy enough with that.

But it looks like all those years in DC haven't eviscerated the guts of that young pilot after all ! He didn't kick for the easy tie. He went for the win.

So much for the Democrats' old-tired-establishment-just-like-Bush mantra.

392 Eowyn2  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:45:59am

re: #350 theblakester

Romney would not be a good veep. He is too powerful. He and McCain fought too much. It would be like obama putting hillary on the ticket.

McCain did right.

I think we will see two white guys again, I dont like picking by race or sex but as an independent female, I am just glad that two harvard white males is no longer the ONLY option. A whole new world just opened for all. Including white males who can now freely choose their running mates regardless of sex or color.

393 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:46:01am

re: #350 theblakester

Did you listen to her speech? People here have been talking her up for weeks- I looked into her, but didn't think she stood much of a chance. I'm glad I was wrong. After listening to her today, I totally see what other Lizards saw in here, what McCain sees in her, and I'm totally stoked. This was brilliant.

394 Big Steve  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:46:04am

re: #375 Hanoch

Looks like the Obama campaign has some allies.

Here is an AP report on McCain's pick (first two paragraphs):


Nothing like straight, unbiased news reporting.


You see this is classic and although I am a guy this is how women never get a fair shake. Someone iwho s female or minority is unlikely to have the long pedigree of a white male. This was true of Obama and also true of Palin. There always has to be someone who transverses the gap to truly pioneer. Just thinking, wonder what will come out of Geraldine Ferraro's mouth today. You got to know someone is shoving a mike at her as we speak.

395 slokat  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:46:09am

McCain truly appeared to enjoy her speech.

396 jcm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:46:38am

Dee Dee Myers weights in....

It’s such a transparently political decision, a double-X Dan Quayle. McCain made the decision to double down on his credentials as a take-no-prisoners reformer. But he did so at the expense of the more important qualifications for a running mate.

It’s not political to say that John McCain turns 72 today. That he’s a cancer survivor. That he spent six years being tortured and abused in a Vietnamese prison camp. Those are the physical realities of his life, and pure and simple, they demanded that he chose a running mate who is ready, really ready. That he put country first. Today, he failed that test.


Using McCain's POW experience as a negative? That's low, very low.
Palin's the Chief Executive of a State, and has run a city. What's Obama run, other than from his record?

397 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:46:43am

re: #222 newsjunkie_ky

Contribution page up and running.

I got on and made a contribution. Let's help them out, Lizards!

398 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:46:45am

re: #376 Big Steve

Well talk about stealing the News Cycle

John McCain, combat pilot.

OODA! OODA! OODA!

399 WrathofG-d  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:46:57am

See the thing here is.....as Obama talks about Change, and promises bipartisan cooperation...MCCAIN LIVES IT!

I guess all of those that were voting for the "historic aspect" of Barack will now have to vote for McCain for the "historic aspect" of having the 1st female VP.

400 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:47:11am

re: #378 buzzsawmonkey

Does that mean that they'll build her an Arc d'Triomphe in January?

Hah! Knock on wood, I hope you are right. Then, they can name the Arctic circle after her in February.

401 tackle  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:47:11am

A little late to the party, but I'm over the moon re: Palin. I was expecting Romeny, and still like him, but this pick is awesome. It'd be nice to get Romney in there somehow, though.
Funny, we're not sexist. We just don't like Hillary.

402 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:47:15am

re: #391 wolfie

Sarah Palin FTW!

403 Eowyn2  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:47:25am

re: #362 DeafDog

It will be interesting to see how much of the convention is spent 'introducing' Palin. If the RNC does it right, the country might mistake herfor Joan of Arc by this time next week.

quite right

404 rexatosis  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:47:33am

Obama's weak choice of Biden makes McCain's choice of Palin a brillant counter stroke. She has a depth of Administrative/Executive experience neither of the Dems has. She will rally the social conservative base of the GOP, her tough stance on spending and corruption make her acceptable to the Chamber of Commerce wing of the GOP (no Ohio problems here), and her life experience in the brutal world of commercial fishing has prepared her to deal with any of the condescending nonesense that will come out of Obama and Biden. (The Veep Debate could be alot of fun.) Also the fact that she is a woman neutralizes the whole Abortion debate for the Dems. Obama or Biden going after her on Abortion will backfire on the Dems, women will not put up with a couple of men arguing that choice with a woman. Brilliant! Now its time for a Guinness:)

405 NTropy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:47:35am
Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Careful Mr. Burton, that argument is a trap. Obama has no more experience than Palin and some might argue even less yet he's at the top of the ticket. Veep might not be the best place for on-the-job training but it's much more acceptable than POTUS.

406 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:47:46am

re: #377 Thanos

Heh™. Agreed.

407 Golem Akbar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:47:53am

re: #354 JHW

I love this choice, I've been hoping McCain would choose Gov. Palin. She's married to a guy that knows real blue-collar work and understands the "working-man" far, far better than the phony Democrats that always stick it to anyone not in a grievance group while constantly mouthing how they're for the little guy and against the "rich", otherwise known as anyone not dependent on the government.


Great point. Real red-blooded, working-class family. Excellent example for Americans, and shows that Republicans are more down-to-earth.

408 angst  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:48:07am

re: #384 neocon hippie

Furthurmore, while the entry form for spinoff links exists, the selection box for category does not, so I am unable to enter a new link.

If you push the "description" button, and get nothing, go to the drop-down menu that shows all the categories (upper left) and try that.

409 doppelganglander  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:48:16am

I just kicked in a little more to McCain/Palin. As soon as the yard signs are available, I'm getting one. While I'm trying to avoid the giddy, schoolgirlish enthusiasm of the Obama supporters, I'm really totally excited.

Another thing -- I think she and her blue-collar husband are going to be hugely popular in places like Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania. They're just so -- normal.

410 Dahveed  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:48:16am

Below is a statement from Senator Obama and Senator Biden on Governor Palin...
"We send our congratulations to Governor Sarah Palin and her family on her designation as the republican nominee for Vice President. It is yet another encouraging sign that old barriers are falling in our politics. While we obviously have differences over how best to lead this country forward Governor Palin is an admirable person and will add a compelling new voice to this campaign," said Senator Barack Obama and Senator Joe Biden.

411 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:48:24am
412 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:48:31am

Charles - all your scalability belongs to us!

413 Big Steve  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:48:33am

re: #396 jcm

not even a dairy queen

414 jcm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:49:15am

re: #382 Colonel Panik

The DeHavilland Beaver is the world's most popular bush plane.

No double entendres intended.

Kenmore Air near Seattle rebuilds and upgrades those, there is more Kenmore Air mods than originals in the air.

Kenmore flies a large fleet to the San Juan islands, they fly over my house all the time, love the sound of those engines.

415 WriterMom  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:49:29am

It seems like they are going to be a great team.

Now YOU ALL have to get McCain elected.

Think of the alternative!

{shudder}

416 Catttt  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:49:31am

I'm almost speechless. Today's my day off, and I just heard the news.

"I'm so happy." ~Herb, My Favorite Year

417 Sunlight  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:49:32am

re: #391 wolfie

He could have played it safe with No-Negative Pawlenty.
I would have been happy enough with that.

But it looks like all those years in DC haven't eviscerated the guts of that young pilot after all ! He didn't kick for the easy tie. He went for the win.

So much for the Democrats' old-tired-establishment-just-like-Bush mantra.

The Power Line guys are disappointed because Pawlenty is from their neck of the woods. I hope McCain gets Palin together with those guys to make her case. Also, we all need to remember that there are many many roles to fill in the govt when McCain wins and you can just see top roles for pretty much all these folks mentioned for VP. While Cheney may have broken the tradition, the VP is normally not the most active role in the top group.

418 Eowyn2  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:49:33am

re: #375 Hanoch

Looks like the Obama campaign has some allies.

Here is an AP report on McCain's pick (first two paragraphs):


Nothing like straight, unbiased news reporting.

give the people a fish - they eat for a day
TEACH the people to fish - they eat forever

TEACH EM SARAH, TEACH EM.

419 tradewind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:49:40am

re: #308 Thanos

Wait til the Pro Abortion feminazis start in on her having a baby at 44........
She knew that her baby was Down's Syndrome affected in utero, and she carried him anyway. Don't try to say she's not courageous.

420 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:49:46am

re: #324 galloping granny

McCain hit one right straight out of the park with Hillary women and McCain supporters!

fixed that for ya!
Man I am pumped!

421 Big Steve  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:50:14am

ok....just saw a MILF comment regarding Palin at Kos.....

422 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:50:23am

I'm donating $50 to the McCain right away!

423 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:50:30am

re: #376 Big Steve

Well talk about stealing the News Cycle......wow this selection has really put the Obama coronation in the round last night into the refridgerator covered in saran wrap.

They swiped it big time. This will be the buzz on the talking heads tonight, and the Sunday morning pundits as well, unless Gustav makes landfall as Category 3+.

424 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:50:36am

re: #410 Dahveed

Below is a statement from Senator Obama and Senator Biden on Governor Palin...
"We send our congratulations to Governor Sarah Palin and her family on her designation as the republican nominee for Vice President. It is yet another encouraging sign that old barriers are falling in our politics. While we obviously have differences over how best to lead this country forward Governor Palin is an admirable person and will add a compelling new voice to this campaign," said Senator Barack Obama and Senator Joe Biden.

Sorry, guys, your graceless, ignoble first reaction is already out the door.

425 LANMaster  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:50:38am

re: #243 Max Darkside

The Hillary STAMPEDE from The Messia over to McCain is deafening...

[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]


I don't think I want to bother registering over there.

I'll take your word for it.

426 Golem Akbar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:50:40am

re: #415 WriterMom

It seems like they are going to be a great team.

Now YOU ALL have to get McCain elected.

Think of the alternative!

{shudder}


WM!

427 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:50:43am

re: #394 Big Steve

Palin is the sitting governor of Alaska. That's more executive experience than either Biden or Obama. Combined. The media wants to focus on her small town roots as a negative? How about using all that media journalism skills and look closer at Obama's community organizing and what he did before he became Senator and immediately decided on Day 1 to run for President (even though he admitted he lacked the experience to do so - and which Biden agreed).

428 wolfie  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:50:44am

re: #348 angst

Experience can be acquired. Character is pretty well set by the time you're in your forties.

Nail on the head, angst!

429 de La Valette  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:50:44am

I wonder how much irony and sarcasm she put into the word "sweetie" when she calls out Obama?

430 Quintus_Arius  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:50:44am

And this was supposed to be the year the GOP goes under...Well here's the real story. By any count there are millions more Dems than GOPers, BUT adding up all the IQs, the Republicans are terra/gigabytes ahead.

/QA helps with that ;-)

431 vapig  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:50:52am

re: #239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Guns, Baby's and Jesus

Hot Damn!

-Rush Limbaugh

LOL! I've been listening to his show today and I'm afraid I missed that one! Too funny!

432 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:50:53am

re: #416 Catttt

I'm almost speechless. Today's my day off, and I just heard the news.

"I'm so happy." ~Herb, My Favorite Year


I love that movie. And I, too, am so happy.

433 tradewind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:50:57am

re: #421 Big Steve

Get your raincoats on, that place is gonna be a slough.

434 WriterMom  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:50:59am

Has anyone said this yet?

BARUCH HASHEM IT'S NOT CONDI.

hahahhahhahahaha

435 beermeister  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:51:02am

From a National Security perspective, Alaska may be our most strategic state for two reasons. Firstly, it borders Russia and provides the mainland with a huge geographic buffer. As such, it is on the front line, if you will. Being the governor of Alaska, our largest state, she is in charge of the National Guard there. Secondly, Alaska is host to our missile defense system.

As an added bonus, energy security and energy independence are integral to the United States' national and economic security. Alaska is and must be part of any energy equation. Again, it is one of our most important states with regards to energy resources. Many of these resources are untapped. Palin was instrumental in getting a pipeline down from Canada to Alaska. Obama and Biden would never have went for that pipeline, or any pipeline, or any drilling, or any refinery, or any coal technologies, or any nuclear power, or any hydraulic power. They have no solution. Solar and wind sound nice, but are not NEARLY enough. It needs to be comprehensive. Alaska gives us that.

As a result, Palin clearly has more experience than Obama with regards to the national, economic and energy security of our Nation.

The response from the Demonrats and the left is contemptible.

436 jcm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:51:08am

re: #413 Big Steve

not even a dairy queen

The manager of a Dairy Queen has more management experience than Obama.

437 beefcalf  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:51:09am

Barbara Boxer calls this pick 'dangerous'. Charles Schumer calls it 'troubling'.

If these people *really* thought she was a poor choice, they would be nodding smugly in appreciation, knowing that it will only help Obama's campaign.

The reason she's 'dangerous' and 'troubling' is that she is an *excellent* choice and they know it.

438 snowcrash  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:51:20am

Having lots of computer problems, so I will just say how happy I am with McCains VP choice and how fun it has been to share my excitement with like minded people. bbl.

439 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:51:26am

Well she's not a MILF, she's a VPILF!

VPILF

440 Jewels  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:51:52am

wow. That's interesting.

Maybe the McCain camp should respond by saying: "Well, the former mayor of a town in a state that is bordered by two foreign countries- one of which is exhibiting much unfriendliness as of late- certainly beats out a former "community events organizer."

441 HugoChavez  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:52:00am

Hijueputa!

She is one HOT chica!

442 Golem Akbar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:52:15am

re: #434 WriterMom

Has anyone said this yet?

BARUCH HASHEM IT'S NOT CONDI.

hahahhahhahahaha


I thought it, but never said (or wrote) it. Thanks for that.

443 Big Steve  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:52:16am

re: #424 Occasional Reader

Sorry, guys, your graceless, ignoble first reaction is already out the door.


As Bolton wisely stated.....the first statement out of a politician is always the most truthful.

444 angst  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:52:19am

re: #394 Big Steve

You see this is classic and although I am a guy this is how women never get a fair shake. Someone iwho s female or minority is unlikely to have the long pedigree of a white male. This was true of Obama and also true of Palin. There always has to be someone who transverses the gap to truly pioneer. Just thinking, wonder what will come out of Geraldine Ferraro's mouth today. You got to know someone is shoving a mike at her as we speak.

I thought this very thing. The only women with a long track record at this time in our history tend to be old-style feminists (Democrats). The other thing people will say about Palin is (choose your criticism):

1. She has a baby and should be spending time at home, OR
2. If she spends time at home she's not dedicated to governing.

In other words, all these liberals will suddenly become social conservatives, while the real social conservatives point out the kids actually have a father.

445 WriterMom  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:52:27am

re: #426 Golem Akbar

GOLEM-LEH!

446 leafsfan82  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:52:41am

Palin's speech for those who missed it.

447 hooligan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:52:54am

I'm female and old and beaten up enough to be pretty jaded..

When I watched the announcement this AM I cried. I'm not even sure why yet. But it felt good and I felt good. And then I went online and donated to the McCain campaign.

448 Terp Mole  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:52:58am

Yes, but will "Bloody" Joe Biden take the pledge to resist punching Palin's nose during their debate?

Joe Biden embraced the role he'll play for Barack Obama Wednesday night, casting himself as a heartwarming brawler who'll take on the GOP the way his mom taught him to punch bigger kids in the nose.

"When I got knocked down by guys bigger than me - and this is the God's truth - she sent me back out and said, 'Bloody their nose,' so you can walk down the street the next day," Biden said with his 90-year-old mom looking on adoringly.

"And that's what I did," he said to cheers.

/tough guy, huh?

449 WrathofG-d  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:53:08am

re: #410 Dahveed

450 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:53:17am

re: #440 Jewels

wow. That's interesting.

Maybe the McCain camp should respond by saying: "Well, the former mayor of a town in a state that is bordered by two foreign countries- one of which is exhibiting much unfriendliness as of late- certainly beats out a former "community events organizer."

Sitting governor of a state not many miles from our once and future enemy.

451 Sir Lurksalot  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:53:18am

I love this choice. Just made my first ever political contribution to McCain. I always thought "what's the use?", but Obama would be such a disaster for this country and our allies, not to mention Biden being an empty suit.

McCain's not perfect by any means but I think his heart is in the right place, and Palin seems intelligent, capable, strong.

Think this choice puts McCain over the top.

452 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:53:24am

re: #421 Big Steve

ok....just saw a MILF comment regarding Palin at Kos.....

Make that VPILF

453 Kenneth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:53:27am

WriterMom, it's good to see you!

So waddaya think of VP Sarah Palin?

I think she's great and a smart strategic pick for McCain. I was so depressed after watching the Dem convention last night... it looked like Barney the Dinosaur as conceived by Lena Riefenstahl. Total creep out.

Now I'm feeling very happy.

454 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:53:44am

re: #437 beefcalf

The reason she's 'dangerous' and 'troubling' is that she is an *excellent* choice and they know it.

Yup. It's Dangerous and troubling if you are running for office and your last name is Obama, Biden or Murtha

455 Catttt  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:53:56am

re: #425 LANMaster

I don't think I want to bother registering over there.

I'll take your word for it.

I'm already registered. I wanted to be sure they saw my Obama videos, and I must say, I got a very positive reaction from the board. :D

456 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:54:12am

Obama campaign highlights Palin's 'zero' experience

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Friday congratulated Alaska Governor Sarah Palin on her selection as John McCain's running-mate, while a campaign spokesman highlighted her "zero" foreign policy experience.

Alaska has exactly two neighbors....both of which are foreign countries. Are you guys sure you want to play this game?

457 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:54:17am

re: #439 EIDE_Interface

Well she's not a MILF, she's a VPILF!

VPILF

You beat me to it!

458 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:54:33am

re: #389 jamgarr

Whatever her inexperience is, it'll be a heartbeat away - Barack's won't

And she's getting 4 years of OJT. She'll be ready in 2012 if needed.

459 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:54:46am

re: #266 Cygnus

I downdinged it and reported it. It's now been deleted. Thank you Charles. Reggie is a total b*****d.

Good shooting, wingman!

460 Sunlight  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:54:49am

re: #396 jcm

Dee Dee Myers weights in....


Using McCain's POW experience as a negative? That's low, very low.
Palin's the Chief Executive of a State, and has run a city. What's Obama run, other than from his record?

Granted the Dee Dees are beholden to the Dem party, but I gotta say that if I were them today, I would just be quiet for a little bit. I will now never forget that Dee Dee has said such a horrid thing. There's plenty of time to make their case in a dignified way after the hurrah settles.

461 razorbacker  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:55:04am

Well, consider this.

When Obama met an evil person, he shook his hand and asked for help with his campaign.

When Palin met an evil person, she attempted to have him fired and prosecuted.

Advantage Palin.

462 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:55:10am

re: #445 WriterMom

GOLEM-LEH!

Holly Golem-leh? From Breakfast at Tiffany's?

463 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:55:53am

re: #448 Terp Mole

464 Sunlight  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:56:19am

re: #424 Occasional Reader

Sorry, guys, your graceless, ignoble first reaction is already out the door.

Trying to put the toothpaste back into the tube.

465 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:56:30am

re: #447 hooligan

I'm female and old and beaten up enough to be pretty jaded..

When I watched the announcement this AM I cried. I'm not even sure why yet. But it felt good and I felt good. And then I went online and donated to the McCain campaign.


You cried for the same reason I did.

A qualified woman competed for a job and was chosen not because she was a woman, but because she was a qualified woman.

466 Arbalest  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:56:38am

To the McCain campaign Team:

You need to continuously repeat the Ayres, Lack-of-Experience, and Foreign-Policy issues for the remainder of the campaign. They are intertwined. You also need to hammer home the various internal conflicts that Obama himself presents and that his campaign highlights.


Obama talks about Experience and Foreign Policy.

“3:00AM” happened, for real, a week or so ago, in Georgia.

McCain responded promptly and well, Obama equivocated, blundered, and showed no real understanding of the situation. Obama talks about restoring Americas image / etc. overseas; his performance makes us a laughing stock (and not trustable).

If this is Obama’s best, the sort of experience he gained while living overseas or chairing the CAC for several years with Ayres, Obama’s best won’t do.

We’ve seen Obama’s performance, words and responses in this area, it is an unprotectable liability for Obama


Obama talks about Experience and Solving America’s economic woes (unemployment, loss of housing, education, etc).

Obama proposed, not so long ago, to give 1% or so of the US budget (or some other significant source of American funds) to developing nations, to help lift themselves out of poverty.

How does giving away money help the American people? Obama seems to have done this with Ayres over several years while chairing the CAC; the results are, (uniformly?) failure?

We’ve seen, over the last 50 years at lest, where money sent to Africa goes; several other rock stars (Bono, Geldof are two I think) will confirm this.

We’ve seen Obama’s performance, words and responses in this area; this, too, is an unprotectable liability for Obama


And, as posted at the top of this thread:

Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.

There is, of course, more.

This “mayor of a town of 9,000” started at the bottom, and worked her way up. Gov. Palin had to deal with detailed, low-level everyday issues that affected people’s lives and had to get the issues right (ALASKA, where among other things, public housing can’t be substandard because the word “cold” means something there, understand?).

Gov. Palin managed to work her way up to being elected Governor of Alaska, an executive job, where money must be spent wisely and accounted for, where non-performance / failure can’t be brushed under the rug.

Obama has little to show in the way of experience at the low level, certainly nothing particularly successful, other than career-climbing and friendships and associations that helped him get ahead.

Getting ahead the Obama way is really the act of a Follower; who has time or use for the minimal abilities and crackpot ideas of Wright or Ayres?


This rant is not dirty politics. It is simply airing the public performance of the candidates. If a candidate can't handle the truth, the candidate needs to quit the race.

We’re in the process of electing the next President, a leader with exceptional abilities, not a mediocre Follower who needs to hide his public record and (lack of) experience.

467 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:56:42am

re: #422 EIDE_Interface

I'm donating $50 to the McCain right away!

Better hurry up. And don't mail it! If they don't have it by the last day of August they cannot use it!

468 Golem Akbar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:56:45am

re: #462 Occasional Reader

Holly Golem-leh? From Breakfast at Tiffany's?


I think you'd better go lightly on that one...[er...uh...]

469 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:56:49am

re: #453 Kenneth

I think she's great and a smart strategic pick for McCain. I was so depressed after watching the Dem convention last night...

On CSPAN Radio this morning while I was getting ready for work (DC Geek? Moi?), they were saying "looks like it'll be Lieberman!". Nearly had a heart attack, I did.

(Don't get me wrong, I like Lieberman, but I think he'd have been a disastrous choice for McCain.)

470 Colonel Panik  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:56:49am

re: #453 Kenneth


I was so depressed after watching the Dem convention last night... it looked like Barney the Dinosaur as conceived by Lena Riefenstahl. Total creep out.

ROFLMAO

471 Eowyn2  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:57:00am

re: #396 jcm

Dee Dee Myers weights in....


Using McCain's POW experience as a negative? That's low, very low.
Palin's the Chief Executive of a State, and has run a city. What's Obama run, other than from his record?

Dee Dee Myers? why do these political pundits believe they actually can preach to someone besides the choir?

472 Wendya  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:57:04am

re: #7 Killgore Trout

The problem is that now cuts both ways. It makes it harder for McCain to attack Obama's lack of experience. Experience (or lack of) may just have become a moot issue.

I wasn't aware Palin was at the top of the ticket.

As for experience, I'll take the experience of someone who worked their way up from city council member, to mayor to governor of the State of Alaska and head of the Alaska National Guard over someone who was elected to the Illinois state senate because he had is opponents removed from the ballot. Palin has real experience. Don't even try to dismiss it.

473 angst  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:57:09am

re: #422 EIDE_Interface

I'm donating $50 to the McCain right away!

All right! Isn't McCain accepting federal matching funds? I think that only leaves us two days to donate.

474 Omachka  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:57:38am

I think Palin is a great choice. Even if it takes experience out of the discussion... and I don't think it really does since the top of the ticket has tons of experience... it also sort of ruins the discussion of change for Obama. No change on his side just inside the beltway politics as usual. With McCain/Palin there is a combo of experience and change. Check... and probably check-mate.

475 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:58:02am

I'm a little surprised by the excitement over Palin. Where were all the Palin supporters yesterday? She's ok; could be worse, could be better. I don't want to rain on everybody's parade, just sayin'.

476 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:58:16am

re: #419 tradewind

Wait til the Pro Abortion feminazis start in on her having a baby at 44........
She knew that her baby was Down's Syndrome affected in utero, and she carried him anyway. Don't try to say she's not courageous.

If you go look at what the Hillary supporters are saying about her, they are furious with people who are attacking her on this. Barry really pissed a lot of women - even pro choice women - off with his comment about "being punished" with a child.

477 WriterMom  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:58:32am

re: #453 Kenneth

Hi Kenneth-I also was having trouble watching the Dem convention without puking a little each time the BREAKING NEWS came along-ugh. This combination makes me happy, too. I think it could be a winning team-I really do.

Other than that-I'm having a very tough day with work and the estrogen bitch contingent festivities again...This is now round two or three-and I'm getting tired of it, but ready for a fight if need be.

478 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:58:47am

Computer ate my comment.

#448 Terp Mole,
biden will stand up for his momma against bullies and will bloody their noses, BUT won't stand up for the Country against terrorists. WUSS

479 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:58:56am

re: #467 galloping granny

Better hurry up. And don't mail it! If they don't have it by the last day of August they cannot use it!

Really? Why not?

480 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:58:57am

re: #414 jcm

Kenmore Air near Seattle rebuilds and upgrades those, there is more Kenmore Air mods than originals in the air.

Kenmore flies a large fleet to the San Juan islands, they fly over my house all the time, love the sound of those engines.

I've always wanted to take a flight in one of those! I have a friend with a small plane and flying over the San Juans is beautiful on a clear day.

481 tradewind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:59:11am

It was a hassle to register, but I wanted to see their reactions. Here is a representative post... there are actually a lot of these, from the HIllaryClintonforum

THANK YOU John McCain
For making a brilliant choice of VP.

You listened to our pleas while the Democratic party stabbed us in the back.

482 yochanan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:59:42am

ROMNY would have gotten a who hum from me

PALIN got a WOW

483 tradewind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 11:59:59am

re: #437 beefcalf

Yeah, it is dangerous: to the hopes of Obamaniacs everywhere. That has to be ' troubling'.

484 Quintus_Arius  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:00:05pm

Boxer the hack and know-nothing Pelosi just got put out to pasture by a real woman.

485 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:00:10pm
486 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:00:23pm

Have a great holiday weekend folks -celebrate work by taking the day off!

487 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:00:36pm

re: #475 Killgore Trout

I'm a little surprised by the excitement over Palin. Where were all the Palin supporters yesterday? She's ok; could be worse, could be better. I don't want to rain on everybody's parade, just sayin'.

I think a lot of us - me included - had not seen her walk into that stadium like she owned the place and let exactly who she is and what she stands for shine right through for all of us to see. People often don't look quite the same on paper you know.

488 de La Valette  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:00:44pm

re: #448 Terp Mole

Biden was the pick to counter Mitt or kill Portman. He's in trouble against Sarah.

489 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:00:56pm

re: #475 Killgore Trout

I'm a little surprised by the excitement over Palin. Where were all the Palin supporters yesterday? She's ok; could be worse, could be better. I don't want to rain on everybody's parade, just sayin'.

Honestly- I just didn't think Mac would pull this trigger. And there have been a number of Lizards calling for Sarah.

490 Killer Tomato  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:00:56pm

woo-hoo!
Went to McCain's site (now McCain/Palin) and donated.

491 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:00:59pm

re: #433 tradewind

Get your raincoats on, that place is gonna be a slough.

A Slough of Despond for Obama, I hope.

492 WrathofG-d  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:01:04pm

re: #475 Killgore Trout

I dont know anything about Palin except that she is a woman. Now although I wholeheartedly believe that that is not something one should take into consideration...the "historic moment" crowd does.

Thus, if I had anything to do with the McCain campaign I would point out that while Obama is talking the talk about Change and Bi-partisenship McCain walks the walk.

McCain picked a female, while Obama picked your average while professional politician.

As was stated in the primaries....Obams is nothing but TALK.

493 rightside  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:01:06pm
494 Mardukhai  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:01:31pm

Any relation to Michael Palin?

Spam! Spam! Spam!

495 theblakester  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:01:41pm

#393 Sharmuta 8/29/08 11:46:01 am reply quote 1

re: #350 theblakester

Did you listen to her speech? People here have been talking her up for weeks- I looked into her, but didn't think she stood much of a chance. I'm glad I was wrong. After listening to her today, I totally see what other Lizards saw in here, what McCain sees in her, and I'm totally stoked. This was brilliant.

I admit I don't know to much about her. I just think that with a 9.6 trillion debt we face as a country, we need some real fiscal conservatives in office no matter race, creed, or gender. If we don't fix our country's fiscal mess, nothing else will matter. Romney, was the only one I saw that had any business background, didn't care about his race, religion, or anything else. We are in a heap of trouble spending more than we make a nation. Try that at home and you'd be bankrupt.

496 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:01:58pm

re: #479 Occasional Reader

Really? Why not?

McCain is keeping his promise to use the allocated federal funds. Obama went back on his promise to do the same within minutes of the time that McCain went on the record.

Do remember, though, that there are pro-McCain pacs that are not limited.

497 Odkin  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:02:03pm

Best bumper sticker ever-
"McCain/MILF '08!"

498 CoolShades  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:02:07pm

This is terrific news. Gov. Palin is a great choice.

Now for your viewing entertainment, the MSM will quickly melt into puddles of journalistic hypocrisy, gender sexism or political bias.
McCain set a beautiful trap.

499 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:02:10pm

ZOMBIE THREAD!

500 Blastforth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:02:12pm

re: #315 Honorary Yooper

He did, dipshit.

Forgive me for being sceptical. If you're right, I'll gladly eat crow. But its gonna take more than one photo op to convince me. In the meantime, I think I'm literally seeing mass hysteria.

501 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:02:17pm

re: #467 galloping granny

Better hurry up. And don't mail it! If they don't have it by the last day of August they cannot use it!

I charged it!

502 Terp Mole  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:02:43pm
re: #447 hooligan I went online and donated to the McCain campaign.

Thanks for the inspiration... I just ponied up, too.

Anybody else feel inspired? Go here.

503 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:02:55pm

Hey dem's... look in the mirror.

504 Mardukhai  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:03:22pm

I think he ignored the middle by choosing Palin.

It should have been Lieberman!

505 Edouard  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:03:24pm

re: #396 jcm

DeeDee Myers can go jump in a lake. She doesn't get it. Republicans at last have a regular person -- not just a woman -- running on the national ticket, who also happens to have governing experience.

DeeDee Myers needs to ask herself why Sarah Palin has a 90% approval rating in her state -- and then get back to us before she spews more idiocy.

What the Sarah Palin pick means, is that ordinary, mainstream, hard-working, family-oriented Americans, not just millionaire lawyers or cynical Washington pols, have got a living, breathing representative in presidential politics, at long last.

506 jcm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:03:44pm

That reprobate Rabbit Bait is at it again....

Former president Jimmy Carter called Republican presidential candidate John McCain a "distinguished naval officer," but he said the Arizona senator has been "milking every possible drop of advantage" from his time served as a prisoner of war in Vietnam.

Any of my comments at this point would earn me a whack from Stinky's stick.

507 tradewind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:03:49pm

re: #488 de La Valette

Bingo.
Shows excellent ' Rules of War' strategy on McCain's part.

508 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:03:56pm

Lizardoids - donate freely and often only 1 more day to go!

509 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:04:09pm

Having heard both Palin and Biden speak, I suspect that Palin will castrate Biden during their debate(s)...

510 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:04:16pm
511 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:04:16pm

re: #480 Cygnus


OOOOOOOOOOO-yeah, been there done that. Love diving at the Islands

512 WrathofG-d  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:04:46pm

re: #506 jcm

Says a guy who has hardly had a job since he got out of office. Who uses his status as ex POTUS at every opportunity.

513 angst  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:04:48pm

re: #485 buzzsawmonkey

The split in this country--deep and widening--between the Sophisticates and the So-get-on-with-its is starting to worry me.

I think I agree with you, but could you elaborate?

514 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:05:08pm

There: #509 christheprofessor

Having heard both Palin and Biden speak, I suspect that Palin will castrate Biden during their debate(s)...

They didn't call her "Sarah Barracuda" for nothing.

515 tradewind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:05:09pm

re: #505 Edouard

Myers' husband Todd Purdum is in deep doo-doo with the Dems after he filed that story on Clinton in Vanity Fair... she probably has it tough at home now.

516 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:05:48pm

re: #360 lawhawk

Didn't the loser in '72, whatshisname, change his VP? I seem to remember reading that somewhere. So it's not out of the question that the loser in '08 would do the same.

517 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:06:05pm

re: #506 jcm


Could we say John (I went to Nam Kerry?)

LOL

Saved ya JCM

518 Quilly Mammoth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:06:44pm
Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Here's difference in experiance. Gov. Palin roots out corruption and holds it accountable. Sen. Obama roots around with corruption at the trough.

519 Dianna  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:07:08pm

re: #371 A.W.

I forgot most historians are liberals.

No, they're not. If history teaches one thing, it's that humans aren't perfectable.

520 maddogg  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:07:25pm

Her daughters are pretty too, I see.

521 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:07:50pm

re: #475 Killgore Trout

I'm a little surprised by the excitement over Palin. Where were all the Palin supporters yesterday? She's ok; could be worse, could be better. I don't want to rain on everybody's parade, just sayin'.

I'm one because she is the VP nominee now. I had liked Romney before, a bit better, but Palin was on my short list of people I hoped to see there (along with Pawlenty).

I'm more of one now that I have had the chance to hear her speak. I'm impressed. Very impressed.

522 Colonel Panik  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:07:50pm

Rush: "Hillary Clinton replaced by the other woman. Again. "

EPIC LOLZ

523 WriterMom  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:07:55pm

Hey-I can't see the buttons. HEEEEEEEEEEEELP. Where did the buttons go?


LOL

524 Pyrocles  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:08:06pm

Lots of celebration in my office by liberal co-workers as the news of Palin's nomination spreads. Campaign is over for McCain, is the reaction in all cubes surrounding me...

At least our IT guy is an NRA member... /sigh

525 tradewind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:08:08pm

re: #516 Iron Fist

That was Eagleton, and it was because it was revealed he had received ECT for depression...... not the same scenario.

526 doppelganglander  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:08:12pm

Updated list of lizard contributors to the McCain/Palin campaign:

1. I Heart the USA
2. Spirit93
3. PSGInfinity
4. rawmuse
5. Occasional Reader
6. reine.de.tout
7. mattm
8. Kosh's Shadow
9. capitalistincharge
10. the lizard
11. Russkiltlover
12. kevinmumaw
13. vbspurs
14. runrabbit
15. doppelganglander
16. Vergeltung
17. EIDE_Interface
18. hooligan
19. Sir Lurksalot

527 jcm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:08:43pm

re: #517 Dustoff-507

Could we say John (I went to Nam Kerry?)

LOL

Saved ya JCM

Dustoff, LGF been slow for me,

I asked earlier, but where involved in either the Three Fingers or Spires Peak rescues?

528 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:08:43pm

re: #511 Dustoff-507

OOOOOOOOOOO-yeah, been there done that. Love diving at the Islands

Diving in the San Juans? Yummy! Great visibility and incredible critters. I swear I'm gonna try that again after I lose this weight!

529 JHW  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:09:03pm

Great series of Sarah photos here. I especially like the one of Sarah posing with the big buck deer on a hunting trip. This is someone who understands the average person and is definitely a real
"change" from the usual political wheelers and dealers. Go Sarah!

530 maddogg  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:09:22pm

re: #526 doppelganglander

Updated list of lizard contributors to the McCain/Palin campaign:

1. I Heart the USA
2. Spirit93
3. PSGInfinity
4. rawmuse
5. Occasional Reader
6. reine.de.tout
7. mattm
8. Kosh's Shadow
9. capitalistincharge
10. the lizard
11. Russkiltlover
12. kevinmumaw
13. vbspurs
14. runrabbit
15. doppelganglander
16. Vergeltung
17. EIDE_Interface
18. hooligan
19. Sir Lurksalot

That list is far from complete.

531 tradewind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:09:25pm

re: #526 doppelganglander

add one, and I'm going over to harass my Dad's entire law office until they pony up.....

532 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:09:33pm

I just made another donation to McCain. So should you! YES, YOU! YOU, RIGHT THERE! I'm talking to you.

533 just another four-letter word  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:09:35pm

re: #298 CommonCents

I didn't know much about her until I started reading up yesterday. I was pulling for Mitt Romney as VP but then she sounds more conservative and more importantly, has been more conservative in the past, than Mitt. Especially when it comes down to firearms. Mitt shot a squirrel once, Sarah hunted moose. Big difference.

Gotta go with you there. All of the good qualities of Mitt, none of the baggage. I bet she's a better shot, too!

At last, I have hope that the 'Pubs have half a clue. Go, John/Sarah!

JAFLW

534 Dahveed  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:09:39pm

re: #526 doppelganglander

Contributed to campaign and GOP.

535 tradewind  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:09:51pm

re: #529 JHW

Incoming from PETA should be priceless.....

536 angst  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:10:09pm

re: #496 galloping granny

McCain is keeping his promise to use the allocated federal funds. Obama went back on his promise to do the same within minutes of the time that McCain went on the record.

Do remember, though, that there are pro-McCain pacs that are not limited.

That's a great reminder.

And, if I were to pick an independent pro-McCain organization, I'd pick the American Issues Project.

They funded the infamous Ayers/Obama ad.

537 capitalist piglet  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:10:23pm

re: #448 Terp Mole

Yes, but will "Bloody" Joe Biden take the pledge to resist punching Palin's nose during their debate?


/tough guy, huh?

LOL - I have a feeling she can take him.

Just wait until he tries to condescend to her...these liberal freaks don't really "love" women and minorities the way they profess to, and it's already starting to show.

Check, meet mate.

538 doppelganglander  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:10:34pm

re: #502 Terp Mole

Thanks for the inspiration... I just ponied up, too.

Anybody else feel inspired? Go here.

That makes 20! Keep it coming, lizards!

539 Bucephalas  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:11:05pm

The two VP picks will come into focus over the next few weeks. After the first VP debate you'll really know what you have. That's when it will be clear whether either side has an asset or a liability. The knee jerk reaction to these announcements is often wrong, time will tell what each pick is made of. Conventional wisdom already espouses that Biden will beat up Palin in the debates. I prefer to wait and see what unfolds when it happens.

The one thing that is clear to me is that John McCain hasn't lost his dogfighting skills. He and his team are inside the democrat's decision cycle and have them on the defensive. Given Obama's natural advantages when this campaign began you have to say McCain has run a brilliant race.

540 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:11:13pm

re: #524 Pyrocles

Lots of celebration in my office by liberal co-workers as the news of Palin's nomination spreads. Campaign is over for McCain, is the reaction in all cubes surrounding me...

At least our IT guy is an NRA member... /sigh

Sucks to work with a bunch of dolts...

/I speak from experience... ;(

541 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:11:42pm

re: #509 christheprofessor

Having heard both Palin and Biden speak, I suspect that Palin will castrate Biden during their debate(s)...

ROFLMAO. Yeah, she just might do that. She is a superb off the cuff speaker. Biden is going to have to go quite some way to keep up with her.

/Geraldine Ferraro really sounds like she is going to vote for her.

542 rawmuse  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:11:54pm

re: #519 Dianna

No, they're not. If history teaches one thing, it's that humans aren't perfectable.

You are correct. Victor Davis Hanson is my personal fave history prof, and he is far from a liberal.

543 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:12:08pm

re: #530 maddogg

That list is far from complete.

And probably far from appropriate.

544 WriterMom  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:12:12pm

Oh-now the buttons are back.

I'm going crazy I think.

545 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:12:19pm

re: #524 Pyrocles

Lots of celebration in my office by liberal co-workers as the news of Palin's nomination spreads. Campaign is over for McCain, is the reaction in all cubes surrounding me...

At least our IT guy is an NRA member... /sigh

That's what I call "whistling past the graveyard"!

546 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:12:25pm

re: #529 JHW

Great series of Sarah photos here. I especially like the one of Sarah posing with the big buck deer on a hunting trip. This is someone who understands the average person and is definitely a real
"change" from the usual political wheelers and dealers. Go Sarah!

No "(c)an I get me a huntin' license here?" moments from her...

547 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:12:25pm

re: #532 Occasional Reader

I just made another donation to McCain. So should you! YES, YOU! YOU, RIGHT THERE! I'm talking to you.

I gave at the office. Literally. That's where I'm sitting right now. :>P

548 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:12:48pm

re: #465 Typicalwhitey

You cried for the same reason I did.

A qualified woman competed for a job and was chosen not because she was a woman, but because she was a qualified woman.

Ladies, don't feel alone. I'm a beaten down old typical white make who had tears in his eyes, and I didn't think Palin was the right choice for the job.

The key is if she can sustain my enthusiam. Based upon first impressions, I'm not betting against her.

549 doppelganglander  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:12:51pm

re: #530 maddogg

I'm sure it is. I only started counting last night. I'll be happy to add anyone who lets me know about their donation. If this is driving everyone crazy, I'll knock it off.

550 looking closely  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:13:04pm

re: #396 jcm

Dee Dee Myers weights in....


Using McCain's POW experience as a negative? That's low, very low.
Palin's the Chief Executive of a State, and has run a city. What's Obama run, other than from his record?

I actually agree with Myers that Palin flunks McCain's VP standard because she isn't ready to be POTUS right now.

The obvious problem with that standard, of course, is that Obama flunks it too, and he's actually running for POTUS right now!

551 capitalist piglet  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:13:07pm

re: #529 JHW

Great series of Sarah photos here. I especially like the one of Sarah posing with the big buck deer on a hunting trip. This is someone who understands the average person and is definitely a real
"change" from the usual political wheelers and dealers. Go Sarah!


I grew up in Wisconsin, and I have to imagine this woman will REALLY appeal to people there - a state that has been leaning Democrat lately (thanks to slashed tires on Republican GOTV vans, voter fraud, and a host of other things) - I think we may have just won my home state.

552 WriterMom  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:13:32pm

Question: do we have to see the video posts on the front page, or can we take them out somehow? Is that what is making LGF load so slowly?

553 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:13:45pm

re: #541 galloping granny

ROFLMAO. Yeah, she just might do that. She is a superb off the cuff speaker. Biden is going to have to go quite some way to keep up with her.

/Geraldine Ferraro really sounds like she is going to vote for her.

I suspect that both she and Hillary will vote McCain/Palin. Bill as well...

554 Lynn B.  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:14:01pm

re: #132 ciaospirit

I thought she said he enlisted 9/11 of last year. And he's being deployed to Iraq on 9/11 this year.

Correct.

555 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:14:06pm

re: #543 galloping granny

And probably far from appropriate.

Hey I'm proud to be known as a McCain campaign contributor!

556 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:14:13pm
557 Lynn B.  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:15:46pm

re: #475 Killgore Trout

I'm a little surprised by the excitement over Palin. Where were all the Palin supporters yesterday? She's ok; could be worse, could be better. I don't want to rain on everybody's parade, just sayin'.

A lot of them were right here on LGF. I first heard about her here a few months ago and started paying attention, thanks to several dozen lizards pointing me in the right direction.

558 spynverzyon  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:16:31pm

She needs a nic: Sarah "Slapshot" Palin (?). Can't wait to see Biden in front of the net when she tees it up.

559 wolfie  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:16:58pm

re: #504 Mardukhai

I think he ignored the middle by choosing Palin.

It should have been Lieberman!


No, he ignored tax-and-spend liberals by NOT picking Lieberman.

He went for the middle by picking someone who can appeal to the Reagan Democrats, the blue-collar voters, and the independents who want fiscal sanity.

560 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:17:23pm

Just finished watching Palin's speech. Dammmmmmmn she's good.

561 MikeySDCA  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:17:38pm

Testing new logo.

562 tokyobk  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:17:48pm

re: #539 Bucephalas

The two VP picks will come into focus over the next few weeks. After the first VP debate you'll really know what you have. That's when it will be clear whether either side has an asset or a liability. The knee jerk reaction to these announcements is often wrong, time will tell what each pick is made of. Conventional wisdom already espouses that Biden will beat up Palin in the debates. I prefer to wait and see what unfolds when it happens.

The one thing that is clear to me is that John McCain hasn't lost his dogfighting skills. He and his team are inside the democrat's decision cycle and have them on the defensive. Given Obama's natural advantages when this campaign began you have to say McCain has run a brilliant race.

At first he appeared crazy and passive. Now it seems he is crazy like a fox and passive like someone waiting to see the whites of his opponent's eyes.

563 doppelganglander  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:18:28pm

re: #543 galloping granny

And probably far from appropriate.

I don't mean to offend you or anyone who hasn't donated. It certainly isn't meant to imply that those who haven't donated are somehow inferior to those who have. Some people have mentioned dollar amounts, and I've deliberately not included that information. Again, if the general consensus is that it's inappropriate, I will cease and desist.

564 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:18:28pm

re: #553 christheprofessor

I suspect that both she and Hillary will vote McCain/Palin. Bill as well...

That would be something.

565 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:18:36pm

re: #527 jcm

No I was called, but they got the handle on it.

I guess were going to end this year with mountain rescues galore. )-:

566 Colonel Panik  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:18:36pm

re: #529 JHW

Great series of Sarah photos here. I especially like the one of Sarah posing with the big buck deer on a hunting trip. blockquote>

If that's the picture I'm thinking of, that's a caribou.

567 vagabond trader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:19:10pm

Best of all, Sarah is NOT an attorney. My leg is tingling.

568 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:19:16pm

re: #558 spynverzyon

She needs a nic: Sarah "Slapshot" Palin (?). Can't wait to see Biden in front of the net when she tees it up.

She already has one...... "Sarah the Barracuda".

And can't we have fun with that! "Sarah the Barackuda"

569 erisldysnomia  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:19:48pm

Obamatanic's attacking Palin for "lack of experience" may be rightly classified as the stupidest insult in the history of politics.

570 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:20:25pm

re: #558 spynverzyon

She needs a nic: Sarah "Slapshot" Palin (?). Can't wait to see Biden in front of the net when she tees it up.

Barracuda has been her nic since she was a kid. I suspect it is apt and needs no replacing.

571 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:20:43pm

re: #528 Cygnus


It's a blast. Just wish the water was warmer. Brrrrrr

572 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:21:01pm

re: #396 jcm

IIRC, Dee Dee Myers was one of the (large number of) Clintonistias who could never get security cleared.

Of course, BHO probably couldn't get a security clearance, either.

573 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:21:02pm

re: #564 galloping granny

That would be something.

As I posted (or tried to post earlier, when the hamsters went on strike), I believe the Hillary is actually encouraged by this, as it weakens Obama (in her opinion -- mine as well, I might add) and hopefully gives her another shot in '12...

574 spynverzyon  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:21:25pm

re: #180 doppelganglander

Add me to the list. I gave McCain a C-note earlier this week in honor of Hillary (so to speak), and I'll give him another today in honor of Sarah "Slapshot" Palin. After that, I'm probably done, as I am a schoolteacher with a family to support.

575 vagabond trader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:21:28pm

re: #570 galloping granny

Yeah, Sarah Barracuda as opposed to Princess Obama. lmao.

576 erisldysnomia  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:21:51pm

re: #562 tokyobk

At first he appeared crazy and passive. Now it seems he is crazy like a fox and passive like someone waiting to see the whites of his opponent's eyes.

Never misunderestimate someone who's spent years in a Vietnamese POW camp.

577 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:22:07pm

re: #532 Occasional Reader

Sent $100. I'd vowed to sit this one out. Oh, well.

578 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:22:43pm

re: #563 doppelganglander

I don't mean to offend you or anyone who hasn't donated. It certainly isn't meant to imply that those who haven't donated are somehow inferior to those who have. Some people have mentioned dollar amounts, and I've deliberately not included that information. Again, if the general consensus is that it's inappropriate, I will cease and desist.

My personal feeling is that you might do better to track the number of donors or the dollar amount without giving names. That is interesting but still maintains some degree of privacy.

579 razorbacker  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:22:48pm

One quibble with the Palin hunting picture.

That doesn't look so much like a big buck deer as it does a reindeer. I can hear the ad now....

"Remember kiddies, when your mommy and daddy go to vote tomorrow, make sure they don't vote for the woman who shot Rudolph.

Your Christmas presents depend on it."

Karl and the boys best start preparing the answer now.

580 erisldysnomia  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:22:56pm

re: #559 wolfie

He went for the middle by picking someone who can appeal to the Reagan Democrats, the blue-collar voters, and the independents who want fiscal sanity.

And horny males of all stripes.

581 johnnyreb  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:23:08pm

I was really hoping he would pick her. Brains, looks and a true conservative.

I can't wait for my local paper delivery in the morning, they will be all over her "lack of experience" and barring a disturbance in the force, there will be some nasty letters to the editor forthcoming.

582 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:23:09pm

re: #572 Son of the Black Dog

IIRC, Dee Dee Myers was one of the (large number of) Clintonistias who could never get security cleared.

Of course, BHO probably couldn't get a security clearance, either.

As I recall, she got a DUI while (or shortly after being) Press Secretary for driving the wrong way down a one-way street. Of course, it was reduced to something less....

583 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:23:48pm

re: #577 Iron Fist

Sent $100. I'd vowed to sit this one out. Oh, well.

It's amazing how people who make choices that inspire you can suck money from your wallet...

584 rlevitin  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:24:09pm

If this goes the direction I hope it will... talk about brilliant strategy.

He spent the last month utterly DESTROYING Obama with non-stop attack ads. Now that he's pulled out this surprise VP choice from out of nowhere to shore up his base and reinvigorate his party; he's got everyone forgetting the Dem Convention happened at all, the Dems only attack options cut both ways, and now McCain can start promoting his ticket out like mad.

If his ads change tone, they no longer NEED to hit Obama after this, I'll be very very happy.

585 angst  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:24:15pm

re: #556 buzzsawmonkey

It would take too long, at this point, to organize all the fractured images in my head, but in short form it is clear that those who are generally classed as "sophisticated" see virtually nothing but the hole in the donut, while the rest of the country, which is trying to get on with it--whatever "it" may be--does not.

The rift between the so-called sophisticated, who are following a man of much flash and little experience like the rats, or the children, followed the Pied Piper, and the rest of the country is very great. They almost do not speak the same language.

I am sure I will post further about this; in the meantime, it is clear that there are indeed two nations in America. The rift, however, is not between haves and have-nots, but between people who see a world of gloom, doom, managed scarcity, guilt, and self-mortification, and the people who not only look toward possibility, but who are able to view the world with joy and optimism even in the face of difficulty.

I agree! This issue was very clearly illustrated to me by something I saw this morning, and that's why I wanted to know your thoughts. During Palin's speech I was taken by the crowd chanting "USA, USA" at the same time that Obama's speech was scrolling across the bottom of the screen. It read: "We are a better country than this."

What a study in contrasts. I think we're a pretty damn fine country that needs a little tinkering around the edges, not a complete overhaul.

586 Catttt  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:24:27pm

Google's quote at the top of the news from Gov. Palin:

"18 million cracks in the glass ceiling," ... "It turns out the women in America aren't done yet and we can shatter that ceiling once and for all."

587 vagabond trader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:24:35pm

re: #579 razorbacker

Don't look for problems, the Obama doesn't do Christmas presents.Seriously.

588 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:24:44pm

re: #583 really grumpy big dog Johnson

It's amazing how people who make choices that inspire you can suck money from your wallet...

Aint it true?

589 spynverzyon  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:24:51pm

re: #570 galloping granny

Barracuda has been her nic since she was a kid. I suspect it is apt and needs no replacing.

Agreed. But I was having some fun with the image of Biden in a goalie mask getting stared down by the Alaskan hockey mom.

590 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:25:18pm

re: #572 Son of the Black Dog

IIRC, Dee Dee Myers was one of the (large number of) Clintonistias who could never get security cleared.

Of course, BHO probably couldn't get a security clearance, either.

What's sad is that, given his cavorting with known terrorists, Obama himself probably couldn't get security clearance...

591 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:25:49pm

re: #586 Catttt

Google's quote at the top of the news from Gov. Palin:

GOP doesn't need Hillary voters. Just need to hang on to the people who voted GOP in 2004. Now getting 10% of HRC women voters would be a nice bonus.

592 Ezekiel2517  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:26:04pm

LOL! Obama shot himself in the foot with this one.

Sarah Palin may have been mayor of a small town, but Obama has been mayor of NOTHING.

I'd like to see a very public comparison on a McCain TV ad between the present state of her small town today vs. the community that Obama served as a "community organizer" in Chicago. Which one has a lower crime rate and better employment rate?

593 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:26:39pm

re: #584 rlevitin

If this goes the direction I hope it will... talk about brilliant strategy.

He spent the last month utterly DESTROYING Obama with non-stop attack ads. Now that he's pulled out this surprise VP choice from out of nowhere to shore up his base and reinvigorate his party; he's got everyone forgetting the Dem Convention happened at all, the Dems only attack options cut both ways, and now McCain can start promoting his ticket out like mad.

If his ads change tone, they no longer NEED to hit Obama after this, I'll be very very happy.

Oh I don't mind if he keeps jabbing he needle in every couple of days. Keeps Obama completely off his game, off his message (assuming he has one other than "change') and unable to do anything other than play a bad defense.

594 spynverzyon  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:27:41pm

re: #584 rlevitin

...he's got everyone forgetting the Dem Convention happened at all....


Have the Dems held their convention? Must have missed it...

595 christheprofessor  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:27:54pm

re: #590 christheprofessor

What's sad is that, given his cavorting with known terrorists, Obama himself probably couldn't get security clearance...

Doh! Re-responded to the post and forgot about the second sentence...!

I guess it's time to walk the dog...

596 vagabond trader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:28:22pm

re: #584 rlevitin

Are you serious? Keep hitting this Obama. Plenty of stuff is going to fly out from his lying mouth.Look at the initial reaction to Sarah Palin from the Obama, the pouting crybaby. McCain cannot afford to relax.

597 anotherindyfilmguy  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:29:57pm

The obomites and their supporters in the MSM are setting both feet firmly in an Alaskan bear trap. By attacking her without researching facts/ignoring facts they just drove a huge portion of the shrillary supporters over to John/Sarah's side while illuminating the Obamassieh's weaknesses that much more...

/and this day was known as hungry hamsters day

598 hazzyday  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:30:30pm

re: #113 theblakester

You're looking at your misconceptions here rather than the quality of the people involved. Yes, there are many voters who will vote race and gender in front of policy and wisdom. They will get older and realize that they were mistaken and foolish people. It's not a long term trend. It's just a fad that has novelty. Will it help people who carry around inferiority complexes? No, they need to get religion not a candidate whose coattails they can ride.

599 maddogg  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:30:39pm

Man, if you think Michelle looked bitchy before.......prolly resemble a medieval gargoyle from now on.

600 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:31:52pm

re: #596 vagabond trader

It's not over until after the last lawsuit. And don't you know that the Democrats are lawyering up. If they can't win it fairly, they'll cheat, and if they can't cheat and win it, then they'll try to steal it.

601 doppelganglander  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:32:29pm

re: #578 galloping granny

My personal feeling is that you might do better to track the number of donors or the dollar amount without giving names. That is interesting but still maintains some degree of privacy.

I'm only tracking those who've posted that they've contributed. I figure if they wanted to maintain their privacy, they wouldn't post that fact. Not everyone has revealed the dollar amounts, and that seems more personal to me. The dollars also seem less significant -- whether one can afford $5 or $500, parting with your hard-earned cash means something.

For now, I'll keep the list, with names, but only post the number of individuals donating. I don't plan on making a full-time job of this -- I started on a whim last night and people seemed to have fun with it.

602 jcm  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:32:37pm

re: #565 Dustoff-507

No I was called, but they got the handle on it.

I guess were going to end this year with mountain rescues galore. )-:

They've got to recover that guy that fell of Mt. Si also.

Those teens on the Three Fingers need a talking too, going up this time of year in street clothes.....
Darwin Award level of dumb.

603 Lynn B.  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:32:53pm

Uh oh. This isn't so good (IMO):

Next, Carey asked about teaching alternatives to evolution - such as creationism and intelligent design - in public schools.

[ . . . ]

PALIN: “Teach both. You know, don’t be afraid of information.
“Healthy debate is so important and it’s so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both.

"And, you know, I say this, too, as the daughter of a science teacher. Growing up with being so privileged and blessed to be given a lot of information on, on both sides of the subject -- creationism and evolution.

“It’s been a healthy foundation for me. But don’t be afraid of information and let kids debate both sides.”

From 2006 campaign debate.

604 DaddyG  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:33:04pm

re: #524 Pyrocles

Lots of celebration in my office by liberal co-workers as the news of Palin's nomination spreads. Campaign is over for McCain, is the reaction in all cubes surrounding me...

At least our IT guy is an NRA member... /sigh

Don't worry - the first stage of grief is always Denial

605 johnnyreb  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:33:43pm

re: #599 maddogg

Man, if you think Michelle looked bitchy before.......prolly resemble a medieval gargoyle from now on.

We were watching her little speech at the VFW the other night, every single person there agreed, that is one bitter woman!

606 pepperpot  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:33:48pm

Well,
I have just went from None of the above in 08 to McCain/Palin...I will even send the Republican Party some money now. It was a brilliant choice an perfect timing. We were discussing yesterday at work that Sarah Palin would be a fantastic choice. He just energized the conservative base and will pull in the women voters that will vote for JM/SP as a protest vote. I think JM hit a Grand Slam.

A lot of conservatives were going to hold their nose and vote in November, now they won't have to hold their nose.

I am very excited about the election now. It is going to be historic regardless, but at least now we have someone who has actually served in the executive branch of government. God does answer Prayers!

607 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:34:06pm
608 spynverzyon  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:34:45pm

Another thing to consider: remember Kerry turkey hunting in Ohio? Well, this election may very well get decided in towns like Greeley, Fort Collins, Colorado Springs, Pueblo, and Grand Junction. Palin will be a major plus in all of those.

609 de La Valette  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:34:56pm

This is also a big Maverick slap in the face to the old line Republicans like Murkowski and Stevens.

It will come up as a counterpunch to Keating5 nonsense from the Left.

610 HippieforLife  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:35:00pm

re: #110 JammieWearingFool

Well, McCain did tell the empty one that he would be hitting it hard again today!

Boy, did he ever! This lady has more class that most of the democratic party.

611 JHW  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:35:17pm

re: #566 Colonel Panik

You're right, it is a caribou. Anyway, I think she'll appeal to a lot of average people, a politician that's not afraid to get her hands dirty, a reformer from a solid middle class background with a lot of resonance to working class voters, typically American and not born with a silver spoon. She should appeal to a lot of the younger voters as well.

612 Catttt  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:35:50pm

re: #591 EIDE_Interface

GOP doesn't need Hillary voters. Just need to hang on to the people who voted GOP in 2004. Now getting 10% of HRC women voters would be a nice bonus.

I truly believe that there will be a great many women, and many many young women, who will vote the McCain/Palin ticket now.

I know some women at work who really don't like Barry but would have voted for Senator Clinton. They're going to like Gov. Palin - especially since her policies are more in line with those of people who understand economics and the financials and tax implications of a Barry presidency (and everyone I work with certainly understands all that).

613 maddogg  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:36:18pm

re: #607 buzzsawmonkey

One of your best, IMHO.

614 jamgarr  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:36:41pm

Here's what one dKos scholar had to say:

Visually it felt wrong, and I think if it feels wrong to me and to other liberals used to diversity, it's going to feel even more wrong to Republicans and conservatives, who feel comfortable with a much narrower range of people.

Get it - Republicans being diverse is so wierod that it highlights the fact that Republicans aren't diverse.

615 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:36:41pm

re: #590 christheprofessor

What's sad is that, given his cavorting with known terrorists, Obama himself probably couldn't get security clearance...

It's funny, because it's true.

It's also terrifying, because it's true.

616 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:37:28pm

re: #610 HippieforLife

Well, McCain did tell the empty one that he would be hitting it hard again today!

Boy, did he ever! This lady has more class that most of the democratic party.

I kind of suspected when I saw that very gracious and gentlemanly ad yesterday that what he was really saying was "Enjoy it because it is the last you're going to get the easy way."

617 Catttt  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:38:11pm

re: #614 jamgarr

Here's what one dKos scholar had to say:

Visually it felt wrong, and I think if it feels wrong to me and to other liberals used to diversity, it's going to feel even more wrong to Republicans and conservatives, who feel comfortable with a much narrower range of people.

Get it - Republicans being diverse is so wierod that it highlights the fact that Republicans aren't diverse.

Ouch - brain cramp!

618 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:38:30pm

re: #565 Dustoff-507

No I was called, but they got the handle on it.

I guess were going to end this year with mountain rescues galore. )-:

Too bad about that guy who fell to his death on Mt. Si. The weather's been quite nasty for late August.

619 angst  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:39:28pm

re: #612 Catttt

I truly believe that there will be a great many women, and many many young women, who will vote the McCain/Palin ticket now.

I know some women at work who really don't like Barry but would have voted for Senator Clinton. They're going to like Gov. Palin - especially since her policies are more in line with those of people who understand economics and the financials and tax implications of a Barry presidency (and everyone I work with certainly understands all that).

I think that is very true, and the media are downplaying this to an extent that's almost laughable. There was one talking head on CNN who stated women will not flock to Palin automatically, that they care about the economy and education and therefore will stick with Obama/Biden! I thought, "Man, this one's really drunk the purple Kool-aid."

620 Archimedes  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:39:39pm

re: #411 buzzsawmonkey

Anybody posted this yet?

North to Alaska!

Now there is an old song. Nice ballad.

621 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:41:00pm

re: #592 Ezekiel2517

LOL! Obama shot himself in the foot with this one.

Sarah Palin may have been mayor of a small town, but Obama has been mayor of NOTHING.

I'd like to see a very public comparison on a McCain TV ad between the present state of her small town today vs. the community that Obama served as a "community organizer" in Chicago. Which one has a lower crime rate and better employment rate?


She also is the Governor of 670,053 people.

622 hooligan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:41:21pm

re: #601 doppelganglander

The dollars also seem less significant -- whether one can afford $5 or $500, parting with your hard-earned cash means something.

Yes, it sure does. Even $5 is slapping your money on the table and backing your bet.

623 Cygnus  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:42:04pm

re: #621 newsjunkie_ky

She also is the Governor of 670,053 people.

And 150,000 moose.

624 johnnyreb  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:42:41pm

re: #614 jamgarr

Here's what one dKos scholar had to say:

Visually it felt wrong, and I think if it feels wrong to me and to other liberals used to diversity, it's going to feel even more wrong to Republicans and conservatives, who feel comfortable with a much narrower range of people.

Get it - Republicans being diverse is so wierod that it highlights the fact that Republicans aren't diverse.

Gotta love it when someone who must put people in a box to establish their identity, finally realizes that they may be wrong and is trying to justify it.

625 ConservativeSoldier  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:43:06pm

If my Vice President was a racist, sexist and is know to be Plagiarist I wouldn't be throwing punches. Because Republicans are going to throw hay makers back.

626 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:43:15pm

re: #619 angst

I think that is very true, and the media are downplaying this to an extent that's almost laughable. There was one talking head on CNN who stated women will not flock to Palin automatically, that they care about the economy and education and therefore will stick with Obama/Biden! I thought, "Man, this one's really drunk the purple Kool-aid."

I'm hearing the same kind of thing from some of the talking heads on Fox - all male talking heads BTW. The female announcers could probably enlighten them because they give the impression that Palin was a great choice for them.

627 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:44:16pm

re: #623 Cygnus

And 150,000 moose.

More moose than people. BTW, the population of the state of Alaska multiplies many fold during the fishing season.

628 kuffar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:45:02pm

Jeez LGF is slow.

'We need more hamster's Captain!' /scotty

Vote Hottie not Snotty

a tip of the hardhat to The Jawa

629 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:45:28pm

re: #480 Cygnus

I've always wanted to take a flight in one of those! I have a friend with a small plane and flying over the San Juans is beautiful on a clear day.

I once hitched a ride on a Beaver (Army Aviation Command) from Saigon to a small airfield in III Corps area. We flew low and slow. What amazed me was how much of Vietnam (almost all that I saw) was untouched by the war. Very beautiful from the air.

630 Archimedes  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:46:04pm

re: #447 hooligan

I'm female and old and beaten up enough to be pretty jaded..

When I watched the announcement this AM I cried. I'm not even sure why yet. But it felt good and I felt good. And then I went online and donated to the McCain campaign.

Perhaps it was Palin's spirit. She has a lot of great qualities as a human being and it seems that's hard to come by in modern candidates. Modern America is more cynical, so it's a breath of fresh air to see someone who seems so American, more so than even John McCain.

631 angst  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:48:40pm

re: #626 galloping granny

I'm hearing the same kind of thing from some of the talking heads on Fox - all male talking heads BTW. The female announcers could probably enlighten them because they give the impression that Palin was a great choice for them.

Frankly, I get the feeling that the female journalists aren't going to be "ooing and ahhing" over Barry's butt anymore.

And here's the kicker- Sarah's major was journalism. Not only are they going to identify with her, she's knows how to play it.

632 sideways  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:48:44pm

Palin is a former mayor of a small town, and McCain was once an ensign! Obama is a former elementary school student!

633 Gretchen  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:49:17pm

Obama/Biden
'08
Blazingly Dumb

Perfect Charles!

634 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:49:28pm

Thank goodness that Jindal is heading the emergency response in Louisiana today, instead of the inept mayor Ray Nagin or his pathetic former governor.

They are already relocating people with special needs, and have ordered mandatory evacuation of less-secure homes, such as FEMA trailers.

635 tokyobk  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:50:22pm

re: #133 Irene NYC

I just love that her nickname is Sarah Barracuda.
;)

I suspect Biden is going to roll in to the debate on his high horse, thinking he needs to go soft on a girl, and she is going to leave him feeling like he is wearing a slightly different kind of plug.

636 Pepperpot  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:50:41pm

Republicans - where the color of your skin or your sex doesn't count as much as the content of your character.

637 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:51:57pm
638 ContraJihadi  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:53:17pm

re: #456 Sharmuta

Obama campaign highlights Palin's 'zero' experience

Alaska has exactly two neighbors....both of which are foreign countries. Are you guys sure you want to play this game?

And one of them not exactly a friend.

639 tokyobk  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:54:23pm

re: #614 jamgarr

Here's what one dKos scholar had to say:

Visually it felt wrong, and I think if it feels wrong to me and to other liberals used to diversity, it's going to feel even more wrong to Republicans and conservatives, who feel comfortable with a much narrower range of people.

Get it - Republicans being diverse is so wierod that it highlights the fact that Republicans aren't diverse.

And the conventional wisdom at HuffPo is that he picked her beacuse he is condescending to women. Becuse Democrats don't trust their lying eyes, they know McCain has to be a sexest so chosing a woman is proof. ?

640 rw in san diego  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:54:48pm

re: #506 jcm

That reprobate Rabbit Bait is at it again....

Any of my comments at this point would earn me a whack from Stinky's stick.

I think all of us who lived through the Carter years are torture survivors.

641 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:55:12pm

re: #631 angst

Frankly, I get the feeling that the female journalists aren't going to be "ooing and ahhing" over Barry's butt anymore.

And here's the kicker- Sarah's major was journalism. Not only are they going to identify with her, she's knows how to play it.

It is really funny to see the dem talking heads trying so desperately to spin Sarah Palin as "inexperienced" and the wrong pick.

642 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:55:30pm

re: #614 jamgarr

Here's what one dKos scholar had to say:

Visually it felt wrong, and I think if it feels wrong to me and to other liberals used to diversity, it's going to feel even more wrong to Republicans and conservatives, who feel comfortable with a much narrower range of people.

Get it - Republicans being diverse is so wierod that it highlights the fact that Republicans aren't diverse.

Gee....let's see......I'm Republican, conservative, TWP.......my daughter attends a predominantly black law school in a section of town where whites are a minority.....Oh...and I'm comfortable with that.

THPTHTP! :-p

643 ContraJihadi  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:56:19pm

Servers are slow over at McCain for President, but I finally sent in my contribution. One of the best results of choosing Palin for VP is that it has already driven the Democrats into an absolute tizzy.

644 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:57:58pm

re: #639 tokyobk

And the conventional wisdom at HuffPo is that he picked her beacuse he is condescending to women. Becuse Democrats don't trust their lying eyes, they know McCain has to be a sexest so chosing a woman is proof. ?

Classic liberal projection.....that's the way they think, so it must be what motivated the Republican. They're just so transparent.

645 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:58:33pm

re: #643 ContraJihadi

Servers are slow over at McCain for President, but I finally sent in my contribution. One of the best results of choosing Palin for VP is that it has already driven the Democrats into an absolute tizzy.

Sure has. Obama's "bounce" from his speech didn't last 24 hours. Already old news, supplanted by a hurricane and the RNC.

646 rw in san diego  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 12:58:52pm

re: #641 galloping granny

I agree! LOL! I don't know how they can maintain their self respect as they denigrate Palin's experience and avoid commenting on Obama's.

647 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:01:03pm

I just love the top stories on Yahoo -

McCain chooses Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for V.P. (AP)

Alaska Governor Sarah Palin speaks to the crowd after being introduced as the Republican vice presidential candidate by Republican presidential candidate Senator John McCain at a campaign event in Dayton, Ohio August 29, 2008. (Matt Sullivan/Reuters)AP - John McCain picked Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, a maverick conservative with less than two years in office, as his vice presidential running mate Friday in a startling choice as the Republican National Convention drew near.


Analysis: Palin's age, inexperience rival Obama's (AP)

McCain's veep choice is historic and hardly known (AP)

Palin views on oil, polar bears may be liabilities (AP)

The ticket: McCain-Palin (Politico)

Obama, McCain vie for suburbanites, white women (AP)

OKAY! Not even a pretense of balance.

648 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:02:29pm

Sell out crowd at the announcement @ Fox - over 11,000!

649 fat bastard vegetarian  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:05:03pm

This is just too cool! Think McCain'll raise a little money today?

650 tackle  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:07:17pm
re: #559 wolfie

He went for the middle by picking someone who can appeal to the Reagan Democrats, the blue-collar voters, and the independents who want fiscal sanity.

And horny males of all stripes.

Reminds me of the crush my dad had on that chick from Hometime. Guys love a gal that can swing a hammer.

651 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:07:59pm

re: #419 tradewind

Wait til the Pro Abortion feminazis start in on her having a baby at 44........
She knew that her baby was Down's Syndrome affected in utero, and she carried him anyway. Don't try to say she's not courageous.

I already got hit with negatives about her from a Pro Abortion feminazi today.

652 spynverzyon  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:08:18pm

re: #614 jamgarr

Here's what one dKos scholar had to say:

Visually it felt wrong, and I think if it feels wrong to me and to other liberals used to diversity, it's going to feel even more wrong to Republicans and conservatives, who feel comfortable with a much narrower range of people.

Get it - Republicans being diverse is so wierod that it highlights the fact that Republicans aren't diverse.

As a conservative Republican who grew up in Hyde Park (albeit pre-Obama, 1975-83) and then lived there again in grad school ('89-93), I can confirm that for Obama liberals, "diversity" is entirely a "visual" thing. Yeah, people in Hyde Park where all different colors, shapes, sizes, makes, and models, but in 1980 (before I could vote) the Hyde Park precincts broke 19 to 1 for Carter, and in '92 they went 11 to 1 for Clinton. In Obamaland, diversity is only skin deep, and the Obama-bots are simply dumbfounded by Palin, who's way outside their accustomed "range of people."

653 garycooper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:12:00pm

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Begala scoffs at it, so it must be a good pick.

She's way more "Christian Right" than I am, but at least she doesn't think global warming is caused by humans.

The rampant hypocrisy on the Left, along with the scummy attacks on her Down's Syndrome child, are going to bring a lot of voters over to McCain. Look for the convention-bump (a few paltry points as it is) to totally disappear by Monday.

My favorite line of today, is the dumkopf Dhimmi who called Palin "a token." My word, do these people have any brains at all?

654 Pepperpot  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:13:20pm

If Democrats had any Brains they'd be Republicans - Ann Coulter

655 razorbacker  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:15:18pm

I've been over to visit Ace of Spades.

Palin holds a bachelor's degree in journalism from the University of Idaho where she also minored in politics.

Okay. But like he says, that doesn't

prove

that she's unqualified.

Her husband, Todd, is a Native Yup'ik Eskimo.[5] Outside the fishing season, Todd works for BP at an oil field on Alaska's North Slope[6] and is a champion snowmobiler, winning the 2000-mile "Iron Dog" race four times.[5] The two eloped shortly after Palin graduated from college; when they learned they needed witnesses for the civil ceremony, they recruited two residents from the old-age home down the street.[5]


Wait, her husband actually works with his hands for a living? Gee, that doesn't sound very progressive. And what kind of Governor can she be if she can't land him a cushy government gig?


On September 11, 2007, the Palins' eighteen-year-old son Track, eldest of five, joined the Army.[7] He now serves in an infantry brigade and will be deployed to Iraq in September 2008.

That hussy has raised a bitter clinger, I'll betcha. Prolly a bloodthirsty killer.

656 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:15:37pm

re: #649 fat bastard vegetarian

This is just too cool! Think McCain'll raise a little money today?

Well, the Hillary supporters are racing over there and so have folks from here. By all reports it is pretty hard to even get on to the server to donate. re: #653 garycooper

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Begala scoffs at it, so it must be a good pick.

She's way more "Christian Right" than I am, but at least she doesn't think global warming is caused by humans.

The rampant hypocrisy on the Left, along with the scummy attacks on her Down's Syndrome child, are going to bring a lot of voters over to McCain. Look for the convention-bump (a few paltry points as it is) to totally disappear by Monday.

My favorite line of today, is the dumkopf Dhimmi who called Palin "a token." My word, do these people have any brains at all?

If Palin is a token because she is female, then just what is Obama because he is black? Is he a token too - or just entitled?

657 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:15:48pm

I just can't imagine this kind of experience, it's more rare than any kind of diamond.

Imagine that you are the five, six, seven year old daughter of Sarah Palin. (I have to admit, I'm not good a pinning down the ages of girls of that age.)

A day or so ago mommy explains that we are all going to make a trip to Dayton Ohio because mommy has been selected by a man who wants to president to be vice-president on his ticket.

Now imagine that kid wanting to know what a "ticket" is, and what vice-president means?

And then mommy explains that she'd be the person who would need to take over if anything horrible happened to Mr. McCain, if he is voted to be president.

Imagine the questions that follow, and imagine just hours later being in Dayton with an understanding that your mommy has been picked as the backup, the security for the possible President of the United State?

I cannot even envision what that darling little girl was thinking as she smiled and waved on that stage in front of 11 thousand people today. Can you?

658 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:16:13pm

re: #653 garycooper

Begala's scum of the lowest order. A true oxygen thief.

659 alegrias  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:17:58pm

OMG! BO was in Berlin but wouldn't visit our troops.

Sarah Palin visited our wounded troops in Landstuhl, Germany--LAST YEAR, July 27, 2007.

Check it out at Wikipedia, search on Palin.

660 MellyMel  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:18:42pm

re: #526 doppelganglander

You can now put me down for a C Note!

661 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:19:07pm

re: #657 really grumpy big dog Johnson

I just can't imagine this kind of experience, it's more rare than any kind of diamond.

Imagine that you are the five, six, seven year old daughter of Sarah Palin. (I have to admit, I'm not good a pinning down the ages of girls of that age.)

A day or so ago mommy explains that we are all going to make a trip to Dayton Ohio because mommy has been selected by a man who wants to president to be vice-president on his ticket.

Now imagine that kid wanting to know what a "ticket" is, and what vice-president means?

And then mommy explains that she'd be the person who would need to take over if anything horrible happened to Mr. McCain, if he is voted to be president.

Imagine the questions that follow, and imagine just hours later being in Dayton with an understanding that your mommy has been picked as the backup, the security for the possible President of the United State?

I cannot even envision what that darling little girl was thinking as she smiled and waved on that stage in front of 11 thousand people today. Can you?

Having raised almost as many kids as Sarah - all girls - yes, I can imagine what that little girl was thinking. And I can assure you that they were much more down to earth thoughts that cross the minds of the children of Michelle and Barak Obama.

662 razorbacker  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:19:42pm

There's more bad news over at Ace's Place.

On April 18, 2008, Palin gave birth to her second son, Trig Paxson Van Palin, who has Down syndrome.[9] She returned to the office three days after giving birth.[10] Palin refused to let the results of prenatal genetic testing change her decision to have the baby. "I'm looking at him right now, and I see perfection," Palin said. "Yeah, he has an extra chromosome. I keep thinking, in our world, what is normal and what is perfect?"[10]

And we've worked so hard to improve the species. What a drawback.

Details of Palin's personal life have contributed to her political image. She hunts, eats moose hamburger, ice fishes, rides snowmobiles, and owns a float plane.[11][12] Palin holds a lifetime membership with the National Rifle Association. She admits that she used marijuana when it was legal in Alaska,

Oh, sure. A dope-smoking, gun-toting spewer of carbon. She hates Gaia.

663 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:19:54pm

With energy policy being a major issue this election, and the very real possibility of expanding domestic drilling, I personally would have liked Palin to remain as Gov. of Alaska.

Alaska is going to be a hot battleground for domestic drilling, and I think she would have been a great asset as that state's governor in this fight. I only hope her successor is as strong as her on this issue.

664 livefreeor die  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:19:59pm

Add us to the list of donors. The hubby and I are in for $200. We don't want to blow our cover in a liberal mecca.

665 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:20:21pm

re: #659 alegrias

OMG! BO was in Berlin but wouldn't visit our troops.

Sarah Palin visited our wounded troops in Landstuhl, Germany--LAST YEAR, July 27, 2007.

Check it out at Wikipedia, search on Palin.

She is the legal commander of the Alaska National Guard. It is part of her job to visit her troops. If you hunt a bit - I think at Michelle Malkin's - there is a video of one of her trips to the sandbox too. Shooting with the boys :)

666 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:20:48pm

re: #659 alegrias

You have to understand. She's not as important as Obama. Definately not a Citizen of the World, adored by the Germans. And we know how important it is to have the German People, famous judges of character, love you.

667 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:22:07pm

WooHoo! I got post #666!

668 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:22:39pm

re: #663 Slumbering Behemoth

With energy policy being a major issue this election, and the very real possibility of expanding domestic drilling, I personally would have liked Palin to remain as Gov. of Alaska.

Alaska is going to be a hot battleground for domestic drilling, and I think she would have been a great asset as that state's governor in this fight. I only hope her successor is as strong as her on this issue.

There is not going to be any battleground from Alaskans. They are suing over the designation of the polar bear. And they are building a pipeline to move part of the many trillions of natural gas from AK to Canada to eventually end up here.

The only battle ground you're going to see over drilling in Alaska - which brings them in big bucks and lots of jobs - is down here from the drill nowhere/drill never crowd.

669 kynna  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:24:07pm

I'm sorry if this comes out a double post. My computer froze when I tried to comment earlier.

re: #447 hooligan

I'm female and old and beaten up enough to be pretty jaded..

When I watched the announcement this AM I cried. I'm not even sure why yet. But it felt good and I felt good. And then I went online and donated to the McCain campaign.

My mom cried too. And hearing her cry, so did I. I think it was being so prepared for a disastrous pick that the relief was almost painful.

I love this choice. I think the MSM is going to hurt not only Obama as they attack her, but also themselves.

As to the Obama opening volley ... his foreign policy experience is what now? Wrong on the surge in Iraq. Wrong in wanting a surge in Afghanistan. Wrong on Iran (wants to negotiate with Crazy). Wrong on Pakistan (wants to nuke them). Wrong on Russia (scolds Georgia for 'asking for it'). Wrong on Israel. Wrong on the UN. Campaigned in Europe, fer gosh sakes.

I'll take her relative inexperience over what your guy is saying any day, Team Obama.

670 razorbacker  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:24:18pm
Palin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council from 1992 to 1996. In 1996, she challenged the incumbent mayor, criticizing wasteful spending and high taxes.[5] The ex-mayor and sheriff tried to organize a recall campaign, but failed.[5] Palin kept her campaign promises, reducing her own salary, as well as reducing property taxes by 60%.[5] She ran for reelection against the former mayor in 1999, winning by an even larger margin.[5][14] Palin was also elected president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors.[8]

See there? Just a whiner and complainer.

Governor Murkowski appointed Palin Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission,[15] where she served from 2003 to 2004 until resigning in protest over what she called the "lack of ethics" of fellow Alaskan Republican leaders, who ignored her whistleblowing complaints of legal violations and conflicts of interest.[5] After she resigned, she exposed the state Republican party's chairman, Randy Ruedrich, one of her fellow Oil & Gas commissioners, who was accused of doing work for the party on public time, and supplying a lobbyist with a sensitive e-mail.[16] Palin filed formal complaints against both Ruedrich and former Alaska Attorney General Gregg Renkes, who both resigned; Ruedrich paid a record $12,000 fine.[5]

I'm telling you people, this chick can't get along with others very well.

671 alegrias  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:26:21pm

re: #659 alegrias

OMG! BO was in Berlin but wouldn't visit our troops.

Sarah Palin visited our wounded troops in Landstuhl, Germany--LAST YEAR, July 27, 2007.

Check it out at Wikipedia, search on Palin.

* * *
"...Gov. Palin Visits the Injured

Gov. Sarah Palin visits Army Private James Pattison during a morale tour at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, Landstuhl , Germany, July 26, 2007. Private Pattison is being treated at LRMC for injuries he suffered while downrange.

U.S. Air Force photo/Airman 1st Class Kenny Holston
Alaska Department of Military & Veterans Affairs
PO Box 5800 Camp Denali Camp Denali
Fort Richardson, AK 99505-5800

[Link: www.ak-prepared.com...]

672 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:27:47pm

re: #668 galloping granny

All very good news. I still think having her there as Gov. would be an asset on this issue, though.

673 Archimedes  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:28:08pm

re: #638 ContraJihadi

And one of them not exactly a friend.

The one we have a hockey rivalry with?

674 razorbacker  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:28:17pm
Highlights of Governor Palin's tenure include a successful push for an ethics bill, and also shelving pork-barrel projects supported by fellow Republicans. Palin successfully killed the Bridge to Nowhere project that had become a nationwide symbol of wasteful earmark spending.[10][17] "Alaska needs to be self-sufficient, she says, instead of relying heavily on 'federal dollars,' as the state does today."[11]

She has challenged the state's Republican leaders, helping to launch a campaign by Lieutenant Governor Sean Parnell to unseat U.S. Congressman Don Young[18] and publicly challenging Senator Ted Stevens to come clean about the federal investigation into his financial dealings.[10]

In 2007, Palin had an approval rating often in the 90s.[11] A poll published by Hays Research on July 28, 2008 showed Palin's approval rating at 80%.[19]

A dangerous, dangerous radical. Looks like McLame blew it big-time.

This little chickadee obviously doesn't know her place. No mention of whether she can bake, sew, knit, not even a hint whether she can get her man's underwear bright white.

That's it. Obama all the way.

675 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:29:16pm

Neil Cavuto likes her. He has an exclusive interview next week.

676 talon_262  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:29:40pm

re: #670 razorbacker

Man, you've got put a sarc tag on...some people think you're playing it straight the past couple of posts.

;-P

677 razorbacker  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:30:56pm

re: #676 talon_262

Man, you've got put a sarc tag on...some people think you're playing it straight the past couple of posts.

;-P

If they're dumb enough to believe that, they're reading Kos right now.

678 king bee  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:32:04pm

Seems to me that she's only a heartbeat away if McCain wins.

Is this a concession announcement?

679 alegrias  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:32:20pm

re: #666 Iron Fist

You have to understand. She's not as important as Obama. Definately not a Citizen of the World, adored by the Germans. And we know how important it is to have the German People, famous judges of character, love you.

* * *
Mrs. Palin is of English, Irish, German ancestry...

680 Sol Roth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:33:17pm

My guess is the McCain campaign picked Palin some time ago. They've been shuffling the other picks around like a chess game in order to gain maximum bounce today. Signs of intelligence.

Obama picks Greasyjoe instead of locking-in the female vote with Hitlery. Signs of lack of intelligence.

681 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:34:34pm

re: #672 Slumbering Behemoth

All very good news. I still think having her there as Gov. would be an asset on this issue, though.

You would be wrong. In Alaska they fish, they host tourists and they drill for oil. There is damned little industry other than that and damned few other ways to make a living. She is the strongest voice for Alaskan industry that they have likely ever had, has huge support and can do them (and us) a world of good in Washington.

Don't worry, whoever replaces her as governor is not going to go easy on the Drill Here - Drill Now - Drill ANWR meme. That oil is a huge, huge chunk of the Alaskan economy. And a simple land swap will allow more of it to be extracted without any substantial environmental worries. Why should the Saudi's be covering their BMWs in diamonds?

682 shiplord kirel  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:35:00pm

So, as reported earlier, feminasty radicals regard Palin as "anti-woman."
Too bad for them. There are a lot more working moms in this country than there are hairy-pit commie lesbians clinging bitterly to their cats. The messiah can keep the latter.

683 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:35:25pm

re: #678 king bee

Seems to me that she's only a heartbeat away if McCain wins.

Is this a concession announcement?

Sounds like it, doesn't it? You can literally smell the blood in the water coming off the Obambots.

684 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:36:03pm

re: #682 shiplord kirel

So, as reported earlier, feminasty radicals regard Palin as "anti-woman."
Too bad for them. There are a lot more working moms in this country than there are hairy-pit commie lesbians clinging bitterly to their cats. The messiah can keep the latter.

That would be almost nobody.

685 razorbacker  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:36:19pm

re: #666 Iron Fist

You have to understand. She's not as important as Obama. Definately not a Citizen of the World, adored by the Germans. And we know how important it is to have the German People, famous judges of character, love you.

I know before I pull that little handle, I'm always thinking, "How will this look in Berlin."

And heaven help us if we lose that all-important "Oui" from the Frenchies.

We could become one of those tiny little countries. At least then we won't be a threat to ourselves anymore.

686 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:37:35pm

re: #681 galloping granny

I agree with all of your points except "You would be wrong". How would I be wrong in saying that Palin is an asset to the state of Alaska?

687 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:37:48pm

re: #680 Sol Roth

My guess is the McCain campaign picked Palin some time ago. They've been shuffling the other picks around like a chess game in order to gain maximum bounce today. Signs of intelligence.

Obama picks Greasyjoe instead of locking-in the female vote with Hitlery. Signs of lack of intelligence.

Obama could never have picked Hillary. To "beat" her and then kick her in the teeth by offering her the VP would have been the worst mistake he could have made.

688 alegrias  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:38:15pm

re: #683 galloping granny

Sounds like it, doesn't it? You can literally smell the blood in the water coming off the Obambots.

* * *
I'm hearing snide nasty comments from the folks I work with--from the lower 48 states of course...can't wait to see lefty heads splode.

A nobody from Hawaii versus a somebody from Alaska! Bring it on.

689 kuffar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:38:55pm

re: #687 galloping granny

But it was his best chance...

690 Sol Roth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:38:58pm

re: #682 shiplord kirel

So, as reported earlier, feminasty radicals regard Palin as "anti-woman."
Too bad for them. There are a lot more working moms in this country than there are hairy-pit commie lesbians clinging bitterly to their cats. The messiah can keep the latter.

HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! (BREATHE) HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

691 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:39:07pm

re: #686 Slumbering Behemoth

I agree with all of your points except "You would be wrong". How would I be wrong in saying that Palin is an asset to the state of Alaska?

I am not saying that you are wrong when you say she is an asset to Alaska. You are wrong when you say she she would do them more good in Alaska.

692 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:39:26pm

re: #686 Slumbering Behemoth

I agree with all of your points except "You would be wrong". How would I be wrong in saying that Palin is an asset to the state of Alaska?

On the issue of domestic drilling, that is.

693 razorbacker  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:39:39pm

This day is looking up.

I'm going outside to see if someone has left me a pony.

694 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:42:32pm

re: #689 kuffar

But it was his best chance...

I think that is the sort of traditional way the talking heads are looking at it. I look at it from the point of view of Hillary and her female supporters. Stealing the top billing and then offering her the also-ran slot would have enraged them beyond all belief. There would have been no party unity at all. It might have worked with Hill in the top slot and Obama as the VP, but his ego & handlers would not allow that.

695 Czarny_Smok  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:43:25pm

re: #526 doppelganglander

Updated list of lizard contributors to the McCain/Palin campaign:

1. I Heart the USA
2. Spirit93
3. PSGInfinity
4. rawmuse
5. Occasional Reader
6. reine.de.tout
7. mattm
8. Kosh's Shadow
9. capitalistincharge
10. the lizard
11. Russkiltlover
12. kevinmumaw
13. vbspurs
14. runrabbit
15. doppelganglander
16. Vergeltung
17. EIDE_Interface
18. hooligan
19. Sir Lurksalot

You can add one more!

696 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:44:51pm

re: #690 Sol Roth

HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! (BREATHE) HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Actually, Sarah Palin has quite a bit of support from the gay community in Alaska. She did sign a bill forbidding gay marriage, but she also overturned a law that would have prevented gay partners from sharing insurance.

697 Thanos  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:46:04pm

re: #526 doppelganglander

Updated list of lizard contributors to the McCain/Palin campaign:

1. I Heart the USA
2. Spirit93
3. PSGInfinity
4. rawmuse
5. Occasional Reader
6. reine.de.tout
7. mattm
8. Kosh's Shadow
9. capitalistincharge
10. the lizard
11. Russkiltlover
12. kevinmumaw
13. vbspurs
14. runrabbit
15. doppelganglander
16. Vergeltung
17. EIDE_Interface
18. hooligan
19. Sir Lurksalot

Add me, I am sticking in another 100 tonight

698 Thanos  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:48:52pm

re: #696 galloping granny

Actually, Sarah Palin has quite a bit of support from the gay community in Alaska. She did sign a bill forbidding gay marriage, but she also overturned a law that would have prevented gay partners from sharing insurance.

Yep, gay bashing in Alaska doesn't get you anywhere, there's a surprisingly large community there. Alaskans are very different than their friends in the lower 48, they cut to the chase on most issues, and are very much goal oriented. Something about being in danger of freezing to death if your car breaks down makes you that way... or something.

699 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:50:05pm

re: #691 galloping granny

I am not saying that you are wrong when you say she is an asset to Alaska. You are wrong when you say she she would do them more good in Alaska.

Well, that is my opinion. I am not sure that as a VP she would be a greater influence on that issue (for that state) than she would as gov. of that state.

Yet, if everything else you have pointed to is true of what is going on in Alaska, then it would appear I have little to worry about regarding the future of domestic drilling there.

I'll go back to worrying about the composition of our Congress/Senate, and what influence they have.

700 Freedom Fan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:50:09pm

Did McCain just choose Julia from Seinfeld?

701 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:51:25pm

re: #699 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, that is my opinion. I am not sure that as a VP she would be a greater influence on that issue (for that state) than she would as gov. of that state.

Yet, if everything else you have pointed to is true of what is going on in Alaska, then it would appear I have little to worry about regarding the future of domestic drilling there.

I'll go back to worrying about the composition of our Congress/Senate, and what influence they have.

I think she would have more access to lobby for her state from Washington.

702 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:53:34pm

re: #684 galloping granny

That would be almost nobody.

Well, yes, that is kind of my point. Except for a few high-profile academics and other grandstanders, virtually nobody is going to buy that line.
The messiah and his radical cronies could kiss the Hillary supporters good-bye at this point, except that they'd get slapped if they tried it.

703 right_on_target  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:55:04pm

re: #140 DeafDog

I guess it's fun to be excited, but this pick is risky. Palin has never been through a national campaign and does not understand how much she will be pilloried.

Believe me, she has been counseled regarding future smears, lies and general personal attacks. From her past record in the governorship she has enough spunk and courage to brush it of.

704 Dave the.....  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:55:57pm

Add me to the list of McCain/Palin contrubuters. I'm normally not big on giving money (I do donate to the state party), but will go online this weekend.

Here's a tactic I heard already today...left is belittling Alaska. Odd.

705 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:56:55pm

re: #702 Shiplord Kirel

Well, yes, that is kind of my point. Except for a few high-profile academics and other grandstanders, virtually nobody is going to buy that line.
The messiah and his radical cronies could kiss the Hillary supporters good-bye at this point, except that they'd get slapped if they tried it.

One thing that the nuttiest of the nutroots don't realize is that most women who are not pro-life are pro-choice and very few of those who are pro-choice are pro-abortion. They tend to see abortion as a very difficult personal choice. And invariably those pro-choice women will view Sarah Palin's decision to birth her youngest sone despite the Down's as courageous, not something to be mocked.

706 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:58:38pm

Barbara Boxer on Sarah Palin: A harsh attack

If John McCain thought that choosing Sarah Palin would attract Hillary Clinton voters, he is badly mistaken.

Quite a few Hillary supporters seem to disagree. How's it feel to be out there by yourself, Babs?

707 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:58:38pm

re: #701 galloping granny

I think she would have more access to lobby for her state from Washington.

I sure hope so. If the rest of what you've said about the general attitude of that state on this issue is true, then I shouldn't be worried.

708 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 1:59:12pm

re: #697 Thanos

Add me, I am sticking in another 100 tonight

Apparently my reference to taking money from your wallet wasn't clue enough.

709 Bobibutu  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:00:45pm

re: #680 Sol Roth

My guess is the McCain campaign picked Palin some time ago. They've been shuffling the other picks around like a chess game in order to gain maximum bounce today. Signs of intelligence.

Obama picks Greasyjoe instead of locking-in the female vote with Hitlery. Signs of lack of intelligence.

And maybe a tinge of arrogance?

710 just another four-letter word  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:00:47pm

Well, John just got my mind changed today. Normally I don't contribute to the 'Pubs because of their linguini-spined behavior, but today I make an exception to that.

I'm betting $100 on McCain. Oh, wait, it's not called betting when it's a sure thing...

JAFLW

/Thanks, John, for showing a clear choice between The Messiah and The Man!

711 Pigtown Water Dog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:01:47pm

I am so f***ng happy. And, I'm so happy that our lib Social Studies teacher is all bent out of shape about Sarah P.

Heh.

I just donated.

712 galloping granny  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:02:05pm

re: #707 Slumbering Behemoth

I sure hope so. If the rest of what you've said about the general attitude of that state on this issue is true, then I shouldn't be worried.

It isn't really an attitude. Fishing lasts 4 months.

713 Bobibutu  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:03:31pm

re: #697 Thanos

Add me, I am sticking in another 100 tonight

and me.

714 hman  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:06:34pm

First Impressions:


Palin: genuine, straight-forward, tough, trustworthy, attractive personality and appearance.

Despite the Drive by Media, America will fall in love with this woman. Bravo McCain, I apologize for thinking you would do something stupid.

MAC and Sarah 08!

715 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:07:23pm

re: #712 galloping granny

It isn't really an attitude. Fishing lasts 4 months.

Huh? I meant the general attitude regarding domestic drilling.

Or are you saying that commercial fishing is the only real industry there, and folks can't wait for something else to come in and provide year-round employment?

716 right_on_target  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:11:47pm

Can-do spirit
The American Spirit
North to Alaska

717 I Need A Bigger Gun  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:12:53pm

Why do I get the feeling that as September and October roll around and Obambi's poll numbers drop off the face of the Earth, a "tragedy" will befall the Biden family, causing Joe to "regretfully" announce that he can no longer serve as the Dems' VP candidate, giving Barry a chance to correct his mistake and make Shrillary his VP choice. Not saying this is realistic, but you never know...

718 marjoriemoon  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:21:14pm

re: #700 Freedom Fan

Did McCain just choose Julia from Seinfeld?

LOL OMG, I think it's fantastic. You guys are gonna lose your ASS!

I've been keeping on the QT, as one of LGFs resident Dems, things haven't been so cheery round here for me. But forgive me for gloating, cuz Obama is gonna win by a landslide.

If not, I'll gladly come to your houses, all your houses for a healthy serving of crow.

Obama no experience? Palin has experience? She's the governor of a state with 20 people and some moose.

I'm no big Obama fan, but this is pretty silly. I was for sure it would be Romney.

719 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:25:05pm

Next step in the Dem's foot-in-mouth epidemic?

Keith "I see assassins" Olbermann will appoint himself official spokesdroid for American womyn and attack Palin on that basis.

Buwahaahaahaa! (We can dream, can't we?)

720 Pigtown Water Dog  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:25:57pm

re: #697 Thanos

Pigtown Water Dog! And I had a smile in my heart when I bet the Gas and Electric bill money!

721 Almostout  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:28:16pm

I think the McCain people could use Palin's husband. This guys, in a lot of ways, embodies the American spirit of self-reliance. He is a self-made man and that is a trait that is still valued among mid-westerners. A woman who would select that type of man for a husband has to be a smart woman.

722 hooligan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:30:21pm

re: #718 marjoriemoon

Wow....a free maid. This day just keeps getting better and better!

723 Eyes of Blue  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:31:03pm

re: #376 Big Steve

Well talk about stealing the News Cycle......wow this selection has really put the Obama coronation in the round last night into the refridgerator covered in tin foil.

Fixed it for ya.

724 Bobblehead  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:31:37pm

Moved down here to this thread. Don't want to talk about ID. What an inspired choice. McCain's campaign had everybody tied in knots trying to figure out what he was going to do. Picture the vice presidential debate with that old hack Biden standing next to that bright, articulate, self-confident attractive woman. I, for one, cannot wait.

725 Bobblehead  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:32:32pm

re: #721 Almostout

I think the McCain people could use Palin's husband. This guys, in a lot of ways, embodies the American spirit of self-reliance. He is a self-made man and that is a trait that is still valued among mid-westerners. A woman who would select that type of man for a husband has to be a smart woman.

She calls her husband "the first dude".

726 talon_262  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:33:00pm

re: #718 marjoriemoon

LOL OMG, I think it's fantastic. You guys are gonna lose your ASS!

I've been keeping on the QT, as one of LGFs resident Dems, things haven't been so cheery round here for me. But forgive me for gloating, cuz Obama is gonna win by a landslide.

If not, I'll gladly come to your houses, all your houses for a healthy serving of crow.

Obama no experience? Palin has experience? She's the governor of a state with 20 people and some moose.

I'm no big Obama fan, but this is pretty silly. I was for sure it would be Romney.

No disrespect, marjorie, but I think it is the Dems that will be losing their asses come 11/4. Unlike the Dems (and McCain), she has years of experience running governments (city and state) where the buck stops at her (and all of the resultant rewards and risks that go with it). No need to be dissing Alaska's population though...they're only slightly smaller population-wise than Ol' Plugs' Delaware, but with much more natural resources at hand.

You might as well start getting ready for that crow dinner....how do you like yours, original or extra crispy?

;-P

727 hooligan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:33:35pm

I just realized that my last post made no sense.

Marjoriemoon, I read your post as you would come and CLEAN all our houses! LOL I sincerely apologize----it's the cold medicine talking.

If Obama loses, you can come to my house for chili. :)

728 Captkirk35  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:33:48pm

The Republican Bench just got a whole lot deeper.

729 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:36:45pm

The notoriously loose-mouthed Biden will say something stupid to or about Palin and that will be that.

730 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:40:24pm
#717 I Need A Bigger Gun 8/29/08 2:12:53 pm reply quote 0

Why do I get the feeling that as September and October roll around and Obambi's poll numbers drop off the face of the Earth, a "tragedy" will befall the Biden family, causing Joe to "regretfully" announce that he can no longer serve as the Dems' VP candidate, giving Barry a chance to correct his mistake and make Shrillary his VP choice. Not saying this is realistic, but you never know...


If Obama's poll numbers slipped that far, Hillary would want nothing to do with him.....she'd just wait four years and try again.

731 Freedom Fan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:42:41pm

Obama no experience? Palin has experience? She's the governor of a state with 20 people and some moose.
#718 marjoriemoon

Indeed Margie. Alaska is a tiny, insignificant state full of typical whiteys clinging to guns and God.

You're right, the ObamaNation has far more executive experience ... well at least if you count the many years he spent as Chairman of Bill Ayer's Annenberg Marxist slush fund. Funny tho' how they don't seem to trot that out too often.

So yeah, good luck with that November thang. We'll have plenty of southern-fried crow on hand for your dining pleasure.

732 Maui Girl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:46:12pm

Someone remind me again of all the foreign policy experience of the Democratic nominee for president (not VP, but the big job!)? Arrogance abounds in the Obama contingency.

733 kuffar  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:46:49pm

Obama paints his family as typical American family. They are, but the fact that he feels compelled to make that point shows weakness.

The Palin Family is the typical american family.

734 Maui Girl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:48:28pm

re: #718 marjoriemoon

You need to take a trip to Alaska my dear. Those moose can really kick political butt. Your statement shows your ignorance.

735 Tamron  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:50:56pm

re: #718 marjoriemoon


Obama no experience? Palin has experience? She's the governor of a state with 20 people and some moose.


(Is this the very same Marjorie Moon who sleeps under a rag on the floor in a cardboard, rat-infested hut, eats cockroaches, and holds up a sign begging for food at the nearest intersection? I thought so.)

If you want to majorly piss off some Alaskans, Marjorie, keep up the insults re: our fine state and the people in it. It'll backfire right in your face.
.

736 footballrules  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:58:03pm

I understand that a nominee picks a VP in order to win. I think this will put McCain over the top; however, it is preposterous to suggest she's qualified to be president.

737 Maui Girl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:58:49pm

A nobody from Hawaii versus a somebody from Alaska! Bring it on.

He's NOT from here as far as I'm concerned. That's like Hillary claiming she's a New Yorker.

738 Maui Girl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 2:59:33pm

re: #736 footballrules

Same sentiments regarding Obamba.

739 Optimizer  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:04:52pm

Speaking of commentary from the Obama campaign, I inadvertantly caught a little propaganda on Communist Network News (CNN). To get "womens' reaction", they prowled around NYC to see if they could dig up a few Leftist women to ask (must have taken at least 10 seconds, their feet must hurt). Shockingly (/sarc), they all laughed at the question as to whether they might be more likely to vote for McCain due to his choice of VP. More "quality" news from the MSM, folks!

740 Freedom Fan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:05:01pm

Although Obama is Christian, July 2008 polls have shown that some Americans believe incorrectly that he is Muslim or was raised Muslim (12% and 26%, respectively)
-

741 footballrules  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:05:12pm

re: #738 Maui Girl

What worries me is that with McCain's age and melanoma (2 or 3 times), she really could become president. Again, I think this bring MANY Hillary voters and could very well be the difference in what I think will be a VERY CLOSE campaign.

742 footballrules  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:12:28pm

re: #740 Freedom Fan

My understanding (what I think I have heard Obama say) is that Obama has said he is aChristian, and has gone to church for over 20 years. That being said, Rev. Wright does not sound like any Christian I know. I'm not a weekly churchgoer anymore, but I have NEVER heard a sermon like Wrights. In fact, it seems just the opposite of everything I know about Christianity. But a Muslim? I'm not sure you can say a small child has a choice with what they are exposed to.

743 ArmyWife  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:16:42pm

re: #693 razorbacker

This day is looking up.

I'm going outside to see if someone has left me a pony.

As the owner of 3 horses, this would NOT be an indication of a good day. IF the pony fairy stopped by your place, you would need to be ready to see your bank account dwindle to nothingness. Trust me. Why do I own 3? Because all horse people are crazy.

PS - if you want to test the theory I have a super nice pony for sale!

PPS (or PSS?) I am finally excited about this election - almost tempted to call my super leftist mother in law who is running for senate in Vermont as a Dem....

744 footballrules  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:17:42pm

re: #739 Optimizer

They may laugh, but many will vote because of her. In fact, the election will come down to several thousand (or several hundred) voters in a few states will decide this election. My gut says they won't be laughing in Nov.

745 silversmith  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:29:45pm

They are right that she has precious little political experience in many areas, however she seems to be Obama's equal in oratory and experience. This seems like McCain versus Beiden for the job of President. You only get Beiden if someone offs Obama, and the experience issue only comes into play if that happens. Six people in the coffee shop today spoke of Obama's chances of a long life if he wins the Presidency. I dunno. It seems to me McCains chances of dying are greater than Obama's because nature is against McCain. If McCain dies, then the US gets a reform Republican woman.

I guess I will have to listen to the woman speak, but I like that she has a native american working class husband. Of course the media will try to make him into another Billy Carter. She will be a powerfull voice for Alaska drilling one way or the other and her husband's point of view on it will be critical. Americans need to hear an opinion that comes from somewhere other than the east or west coast. North coast.....hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....the new black.

746 Freedom Fan  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:30:15pm

FootballRules:

What I have a problem with is the suppression of this quote directly from Barack. I think folks are intelligent enough to determine whether studying the Koran, for two years as a small child, qualifies someone as a Muslim.

Meanwhile anyone who mentions this is smeared as a right wing nut and Obama's campaign website states:

HE NEVER ATTENDED A RADICAL MUSLIM SCHOOL
He has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim...
Obama Has Never Been A Muslim, And Is a Committed Christian

These are misleading half-truths in the tradition of slick willie's parsing the word "is".

But you're right the larger concern would seem to be his long close association with a racist America-hating fake Christian (Wright), a convicted felon (Rezko), and an unapologetic terrorist (Ayers) for all those years.

Then denying it all, as if we are too dumb to find out the truth.

747 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:30:51pm

Wow! This just gets better all the time:

McCain VP nominee has GA connections

Sen. John McCain’s surprise choice of running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, has a positive association with general aviation.

Considering that GA is the primary form of long-distance transportation in the forty-ninth state, it’s not surprising that Gov. Palin has taken a stand on the user fee issue. In May 2007, she signed a resolution in opposition to the FAA’s plan to increase avgas taxes, impose user fees, and slash airport funding. AOPA and the Alaska Airmen’s Association had worked together to move the resolution through the Alaska legislature.

There is a family connection as well. Palin’s husband, Todd, is an AOPA member and Super Cub owner.

748 silversmith  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:36:57pm

McCain/IronDog in 88
just go and DO it.

749 footballrules  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:38:46pm

re: #746 Freedom Fan

I agree. Very good point.

750 silversmith  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:44:40pm

McCain/Iron Dog(Sarah Palin)

versus

Obama/Beiden

we can call this election

The Shootout at the Malamute Saloon
(look it up)

751 footballrules  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:45:38pm

I just watched ABC News, and I think McCain might have won today.
1. Limbaugh thinks it's a homerun
2. Mark Levin thinks it's a homerun
3. Laura Ingraham thinks it's a homerun
4. 1-3 are big Conservative media types - a rare breed- and have been tough on McCain. They are with him now.
5. MANY Hillay voters were leaving Obama anyway (a woman VP just brought more over).
6. It's political decision that Bill and Hillary would have made! It's prime time now, and McCain has a hit.
7. I hope he stays healthy!

752 silversmith  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:47:49pm

here is a hint

[Link: members.fortunecity.com...]

753 silversmith  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:53:44pm

I saw this poem done live outside of Fairbanks. Cost 25 bucks plus a 2 drink minimum.

Another hint....Robert Service is Alaska's perpetual poet laureat.

Get used to it.

754 marjoriemoon  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:57:49pm

re: #726 talon_262

No disrespect, marjorie, but I think it is the Dems that will be losing their asses come 11/4. Unlike the Dems (and McCain), she has years of experience running governments (city and state) where the buck stops at her (and all of the resultant rewards and risks that go with it). No need to be dissing Alaska's population though...they're only slightly smaller population-wise than Ol' Plugs' Delaware, but with much more natural resources at hand.

You might as well start getting ready for that crow dinner....how do you like yours, original or extra crispy?

;-P

hehe... Well I'll start with extra crispy. Does that suit you? You may be joining me.

It seems to me McCain would have picked someone with a lot more experience or better known, why I thought Romney had it in the bag.

Palin, from my understanding, is not very em... "gay friendly" and is stanchly anti-abortion. McCain did this, I think, to try to take the Hillary dems (of which I am one) but it's such a veiled attempt. The Dem convention this week won over Hillary's supporters hands-down and a conservative Repub VP won't convince them.

755 marjoriemoon  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 3:58:39pm

re: #727 hooligan

I just realized that my last post made no sense.

Marjoriemoon, I read your post as you would come and CLEAN all our houses! LOL I sincerely apologize----it's the cold medicine talking.

If Obama loses, you can come to my house for chili. :)

Anything but the windows :)

756 footballrules  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:00:08pm

re: #753 silversmith

I reread the poem. Wow! It is great. The first time I read it, I didn't read the whole thing. A life lesson there. I'm used to it! You have given me homework assignment to read more! Thanks

757 footballrules  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:02:32pm

re: #753 silversmith

Silversmith, what's Service's story? I gotta find out more. I'm hooked!

758 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:23:40pm

In other news of the day it was noted that the DNC nominated Mr. Hugh Briss for its candidate for president. Crap, this lady could out think, out run, out shoot, and out everything else the Creep of the Columns.

759 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:34:26pm

re: #623 Cygnus

Don't screw with the moose. Their legs are tall enough to fit over the hood of your car. Bottom line is if you hit a moose sideways you will share the front seat of your car with the moose. That does nothing for the car, you, or the moose.

A fact that I am sure Mr. Hugh Briss is unaware of.

760 rb4269  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:39:04pm

Of how many of the 57 states has OBAMA been
governor ?

761 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:58:58pm

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Mr. Hugh Briss has a record of something (other than the Ayers stuff that is)? Oh yeah I forgot that he managed to get into the state senate by going through the nomination papers of his opponents and challenging all the females who had gotten married and then changed their name. This reduced the field to just him. And yeah, there was the earmark for his wife's hospital which after they got it, she got a $200,000 raise. There are other things on his record too, none of them very complementary. Like not writing a paper for the law review when he was president of same. Most unusual. My son was on the law review at Cardozo and wrote 2 papers for it. One made it, one didn't. Quite unusual not to have any papers submitted for publication at a law review in a law school. I suppose I could go on about the record, but none of it reflects well on Mr. Briss.

I know its just me, and my particular attitudes and all. I make a study of psychopaths so I have, of course, done a bit of digging on Hitler. I am not Jewish. Dunked an Episcopalian, but I am everyone's rank heretic. But the stadium last night reminded me too much of something out of Nazi Germany. I am not, repeat not, calling Mr. Briss a Nazi, a Fascist perhaps, but not a Nazi. But still, the overall feeling was of that order.

762 wiffersnapper  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:51:25pm

Liberal tolerance on parade

763 Zumkopf  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:19:14pm

This "experience" kerfuffle is sheer idiocy. Anyone who was going to vote for Obama, by definition, doesn't care a whit about foreign policy experience. Anybody who cares about experience isn't going to vote Obama, and NOT vote for McCain, because McCain's VEEP has little foreign policy experience.

Besides, I daresay Palin has more experience dealing with the Russians (her next-door neighbors, constantly entering Alaskan waters and airspace) than Obama and Biden, and their entire advisory staffs, combined. And the Canadians. And she's run ALASKA. A bit rougher than the Cosmos Club.

No, the Dems are afraid. And they should be.

764 utahjerry  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:24:55pm

As an independent voter and a small business owner, I absolutely love this choice for the next Vice President of the United States. I have more faith in her executive experience than I do in Obama's.

Jerome

765 conservativegirl  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:42:21pm

Obama falls for the trap and criticizes a woman who actually has more experience than he does. She had been elected to office as Mayor for 5 years while Obama was a community organizer and tried to run for office! And democrats think Obama is ready from day 1!? Are they crazy? Palin is a conservative, a woman, a Governor, an outdoors enthusiast and mother of 5 (one of her children a solder going to Iraq). She complements McCain completely as a Maverick herself fighting entrenched corrupt republicans in her state. What a woman!

766 todler  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:47:13pm

With out wanting to invoke some kind of racism,

Hello!?! Pot, this is the kettle!

767 jpkoch  Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:48:15pm

re: #736 footballrules

I understand that a nominee picks a VP in order to win. I think this will put McCain over the top; however, it is preposterous to suggest she's qualified to be president.


No more ridiculous than Obama running for President.

768 Mordecai  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 9:41:16am

re: #761 Shr_Nfr

I know its just me, and my particular attitudes and all. I make a study of psychopaths so I have, of course, done a bit of digging on Hitler. I am not Jewish. Dunked an Episcopalian, but I am everyone's rank heretic. But the stadium last night reminded me too much of something out of Nazi Germany. I am not, repeat not, calling Mr. Briss a Nazi, a Fascist perhaps, but not a Nazi. But still, the overall feeling was of that order.

I was beginning to think I was the only one who actually thought that. Scary. They like these kind of over the top stages, to look bigger than life, messianic. I think it serves them to distract the attention of the attendants are how empty are actually their words and actions. Sad their voters buy it.

769 dave in NC  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 11:22:45am

just sent $100 to Palin-McCain. haven't been this energized since reagan.


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