♻RetweetDaily Kos: Sarah Palin, 'Dominionist Stalking Horse'
Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:59:15 pm PDT
Of course, the Kos Kids are first out of the gate with a massive smear attack on Sarah Palin: Daily Kos: Sarah Palin: Dominionist Stalking Horse.
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Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:59:15 pm PDT
Of course, the Kos Kids are first out of the gate with a massive smear attack on Sarah Palin: Daily Kos: Sarah Palin: Dominionist Stalking Horse.
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Sizzlack Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:00:24pm |
Boy the Kidz are angry and deranged today... just another day is Kosville.
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Sharmuta Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:01:26pm |
Bitterly clinging to their lies and distortions. Typical lefties.
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Cognito Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:01:48pm |
I hear she lures children to her gingerbread cottage, fattens them up, and then gobbles 'em down.
You didn't think "mooseburger" was made of moose, did you?
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jcm Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:02:10pm |
neopentecostal dominionists
AAAHHHGGGRRRHHH
*runs screaming into the night*
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rawmuse Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:02:23pm |
Sometimes you can measure the effectiveness of a candidate by how loud the oppositions squawks.
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jorline Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:02:33pm |
The moonbats are seething...Obama had a 12 hour bump...that's it!
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coquimbojoe Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:02:33pm |
What? Really, what the hell does that mean? Paranoia on display. Asshattery at its finest!
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Semper Gumbi Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:03:01pm |
WTF is a Dominionist? I read some of the link and still didn't get it.
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coquimbojoe Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:03:18pm |
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solomonpanting Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:03:39pm |
Palin, who was elected Governor in 2007, is Alaska’s youngest governor and the first female governor of the state. She just recently gave birth to her fifth child, Trig. Palin spoke of the faith challenge she faced when learning that Trig would be a Downs Syndrome child. However, she and her husband, Todd, believe that every child is a gift of God, deserving of life, and that God was asking them to accept His will for their lives. The Alaska District Council believes that the State of Alaska is blessed to have a woman of faith and courage as Governor.
Them's some rather damning facts.
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godfrey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:03:58pm |
"Dominionist"?
lol
That's what they come up with? "Dominionist"?
What are the Kos Kids? Powerlessness-ists? Anarchists? Milquetoast-ists?
lol
To have "dominion" means to "exercise responsible control over." It's like "stewardship."
Not "rape pillage plunder and exploit."
That's for Islamists.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:04:02pm |
re: #4 ploome hineni
what does that mean?
If you have to ask, you're the enemy.
/Leftist intellectual
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Russkilitlover Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:04:04pm |
Ain't it neat to see "progressive" "liberals" bash a woman/minority into the ground, step on them and grind away with their heels? What an altruistic party.
(What F*cking hyprocrites and reactionaries!)
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Sharmuta Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:04:25pm |
re: #9 Semper Gumbi
WTF is a Dominionist? I read some of the link and still didn't get it.
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Kitty Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:05:06pm |
It sounds like she goes to an Assembly of God church. Contrary to popular believe they do not swing on the chandeliers.
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MandyManners Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:05:30pm |
Let them attack. It's not as if she belongs to a church whose leader calls upon the Lord God to damn America.
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godfrey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:05:43pm |
They're referring to Genesis. "Have dominion over the beasts and fishes," etc. As if that is ever taken to mean "the Ruination of Creation is legitimized by God."
This is just another Lie of the Left.
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CIA Reject Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:05:55pm |
Gee, that didn't take long.
Although it's hardly surprising when you consider that the Palin selection casts into stark contrast the difference between the two tickets. McCain with an established (and now reinforced) reputation as a “maverick” has chosen a former governor of Alaska, Americas last frontier, while BO has chosen a consummate Washington insider. You can’t get any clearer a divide between the ticket of self-sufficiency, and the ticket of the “nanny state”.
I'm sure the very concept of independence and self-sufficiency scares the living snot out of the average Kossack
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:06:10pm |
What's creepy? Obama's pastor of 20 some years.
oh wait - he gets a free pass because Obama is a Democrat.
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Semper Gumbi Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:06:17pm |
re: #16 Sharmuta
Thanks. reading that, IMO, it appears that Dominionism is lefty made-up bullshit.
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jcm Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:06:29pm |
re: #4 ploome hineni
what does that mean?
Basically they think she's a bible thumper who will install a theocracy.
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CIA Reject Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:06:39pm |
re: #9 Semper Gumbi
WTF is a Dominionist? I read some of the link and still didn't get it.
Somebody from Virginia?
Hey, nobody said geography was their strong suit...
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Pawn of the Oppressor Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:06:58pm |
re: #14 Russkilitlover
Ain't it neat to see "progressive" "liberals" bash a woman/minority into the ground, step on them and grind away with their heels? What an altruistic party.
(What F*cking hyprocrites and reactionaries!)
They're just getting started. The next two days are going to be interesting over in HuffDUKosistan.
I wouldn't call it a waste of time for any strong-stomached types to hang out over there this weekend and pick things out for a "Mysoginy of the Daily Kos" series.
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rawmuse Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:06:59pm |
I'd be willing to bet that she does not have to disown her pastor, for political expediency.
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Charles Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:07:06pm |
Dominionism is real enough, but the evidence given in this Kos Kid's post that Palin follows that line is slim to nonexistent. I looked into some of it, and found several distortions, including the same 'creationist' distortion I posted about earlier.
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simpleman Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:07:53pm |
Whoa... hold on. I know a dominionist stalking horse, and Sarah Palin is no dominionist stalking horse.
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Russkilitlover Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:07:54pm |
re: #6 rawmuse
Sometimes you can measure the effectiveness of a candidate by how loud the oppositions squawks.
Anton Chekhov (my personal hero) once remarked that he knew he was being true because he was being attacked by both the right and the left. (This was after the publication of his stories based on his trips through Siberian prison camps). Prior to that he published "Peasants." Probably the most human-ly told story in existence.
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:08:00pm |
Via Hot Air..check this one out. I know it's been said many times and many ways but those people are sick, sick, sick.
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godfrey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:08:01pm |
re: #29 Charles
Yes, the evidence is negligible, but that doesn't matter. What matters is whether this "narrative" or "metaphor" for Palin will stick.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:08:04pm |
re: #25 jcm
Basically they think she's a bible thumper who will install a theocracy.
Fast out of the gates with that one, I see. I put money on "redneck" next.
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Semper Gumbi Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:08:05pm |
re: #26 CIA Reject
Somebody from Virginia?
Hey, nobody said geography was their strong suit...
Oh man, Upding for that one! And I live in Virginia.
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LEGION Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:08:14pm |
Look at the lefty piggies squeal! Wool over some eyes will be pulled off the way they are treating her- McCain/Palin in a LANDSLIDE!LANDSLIDE
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:08:32pm |
re: #16 Sharmuta
If that's the only thing they have on Gov. Palin, I don't think we have to worry much: they seem to accuse every religious conservative of that to some degree. They even cited the creationism smear Charles noted in the last thread.
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Russkilitlover Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:08:34pm |
re: #20 MandyManners
Let them attack. It's not as if she belongs to a church whose leader calls upon the Lord God to damn America.
Spot, SPOT, SPOT on MM!
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:08:51pm |
And we all know are favorite neo-leftist, Andrew Sullivan, declares anyone on the right who even remotely has a connection to anything remotely Christian is a "Chrstianist" - while anyone extolling the virtues of whacked out Marxist-Christianity gets a pass of his slur.
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Mister Ghost Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:08:54pm |
It's the Dominion from Star Trek: Deep Space 9. The Kos Kids believe Sarah Palin is a Changeling and may be trying infiltrate her way to the highest echelons of our government.
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Sharmuta Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:09:09pm |
re: #29 Charles
Dominionism is real enough, but the evidence given in this Kos Kid's post that Palin follows that line is slim to nonexistent. I looked into some of it, and found several distortions, including the same 'creationist' distortion I posted about earlier.
Thanks for looking into it. Would have been a deal breaker for me.
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rawmuse Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:09:15pm |
re: #25 jcm
Basically they think she's a bible thumper who will install a theocracy.
While they put up a nihilist with a comb-over...
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:09:36pm |
re: #43 Mister Ghost
It's the Dominion from Star Trek: Deep Space 9. The Kos Kids believe Sarah Palin is a Changeling and may be trying infiltrate her way to the highest echelons of our government.
LOL
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Thanos Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:10:03pm |
re: #29 Charles
Dominionism is real enough, but the evidence given in this Kos Kid's post that Palin follows that line is slim to nonexistent. I looked into some of it, and found several distortions, including the same 'creationist' distortion I posted about earlier.
I'm from Alaska, much of my family lives there still, if there are dominionists up there they sure do hide it well, I've never seen one.
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mich-again Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:10:15pm |
Obama's base can't possibly follow that complicated trail of bread crumbs.
Dude needs to simplify it to 5 words or less.
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:10:17pm |
Basically if you are a left-wing democrat - your religion is off limits.
If you are a conservative Republican - your religion is suspect and to be mocked, ridiculed and shat upon.
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Drained Brain Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:10:18pm |
They also posted this gem for awhile before they removed it.
Staying classy...
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jcm Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:11:26pm |
re: #34 Pawn of the Oppressor
Fast out of the gates with that one, I see. I put money on "redneck" next.
It's already out there...
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Russkilitlover Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:11:29pm |
re: #25 jcm
Basically they think she's a bible thumper who will install a theocracy.
And we would have had the same thing with Romney. So let's get behind this ticket, as the alternative is...horrifying.
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Semper Gumbi Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:11:49pm |
re: #32 Bobblehead
At least, according to the Poll, a plurality of kossocks think that the story should be killed because it is a private matter.
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Geepers Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:12:03pm |
dogemperor says:
Here's hoping this article starts shining a little bit of light on the subject--the last thing we need a literal heartbeat away from the Presidency is a ninja dominionist.
LOL. He's got 52 links in that post.
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solomonpanting Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:12:03pm |
"stealth dominionist" is koskidzspeak for Manchurian Candidate
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LEGION Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:12:22pm |
PALIN = PALADIN HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL! THIS IS A BRILLIANT CHESS MOVE ON THE PART OF JOHNNY- SHE IS A GUN FOR HIRE TO SLAY THE EVIL OBAMA!
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
The knight symbol is in reference to his name—possibly a nickname or working name—and his occupation as a champion-for-hire (see paladin). The theme song of the series refers to him as "a knight without armor." In addition, Paladin drew a parallel between his methods and the chess piece's movement: "It's a chess piece, the most versatile on the board. It can move in eight different directions, over obstacles, and it's always unexpected."
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MandyManners Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:12:28pm |
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SouthAmericanWay Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:12:38pm |
They are mad as hell, because, as Erick in RedState wrote:
"Sarah Palin Runs A State. Barack Obama Runs His Mouth."
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:12:45pm |
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:12:48pm |
re: #12 godfrey
"Dominionist"?
lol
That's what they come up with? "Dominionist"?
What are the Kos Kids? Powerlessness-ists? Anarchists? Milquetoast-ists?
lol
To have "dominion" means to "exercise responsible control over." It's like "stewardship."
Not "rape pillage plunder and exploit."
That's for Islamists.
And Communists too.
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:12:57pm |
Blindsided I tell you, blindsided! Those idiots don't know what to do. Best just to laugh at their paranoid ravings.
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HelloDare Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:13:04pm |
The kos kids are just bitter because Palin is cuter than Markos Moulitsas Zúniga
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Drained Brain Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:13:10pm |
re: #60 MandyManners
Oh, vile swine. That's lower than whale shit.
In the good ol' days, it'd be pistols at dawn.
Them's my sentiments too!
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Pshawalaw Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:13:16pm |
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CIA Reject Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:13:30pm |
re: #35 Semper Gumbi
Oh man, Upding for that one! And I live in Virginia.
Thanks! Sometimes I think that the left gets all of its material from the "Guaranteed Effective All-Occasion Non-Slanderous Political Smear Speech"
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mich-again Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:13:38pm |
I wonder if that guy ever wrote about Obama's old church TUCC and Reverend Wright. I bet if he did it would be chock full of racism of lowered expectations.
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Sharmuta Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:13:39pm |
I think in this kosling's mind, all you have to do to be a Dominionist is go to church once a week.
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jcm Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:14:07pm |
re: #54 Russkilitlover
And we would have had the same thing with Romney. So let's get behind this ticket, as the alternative is...horrifying.
They'd trot that out about anyone with a more fundamental Christian belief.
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:14:25pm |
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:14:40pm |
"Dominionist"? Does that mean she's into leather?
/
Sheesh. Do those morons not realize that with every slam they make against her, they undermine any other female candidate, including Her Thighness.
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WrathofG-d Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:14:51pm |
Funny how these sort of things "dominionism" etc., are considered the natural wrong while enforced specific beliefs of secularism are taught to be considered right.
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arizona9 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:15:21pm |
To watch how fast and how far the left will attack her as a woman will be fascinating. Completely predictable but fascinating. Already, I heard an attack on her bashing her over how could she be a good mother while being VP. The hypocrisy wer're about to witness will be unlike anything we've ever seen. Unprecedented
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:15:27pm |
Republican Party = dominionist.
Get used to it, you trolls. Your party platform is emptier than a Mojave lake in June.
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Pshawalaw Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:15:30pm |
re: #16 Sharmuta
I should have included this quote to give my comment context.
Christians typically interpret this verse as meaning that God gave humankind responsibility over the Earth
So, then AlGore is also a dominionist.
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LEGION Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:16:37pm |
Have Gun – Will Travel
Richard Boone as Paladin
Genre Western
Created by Sam Rolfe
Herb Meadow
Starring Richard Boone
Theme music composer Johnny Western
Richard Boone
Sam Rolfe (closing theme)
Opening theme composed by Bernard Herrmann
Ending theme "Ballad of Paladin"
Country of origin United States
Language(s) English
No. of seasons 6
No. of episodes 225
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:17:22pm |
re: #60 MandyManners
Oh, vile swine. That's lower than whale shit.
In the good ol' days, it'd be pistols at dawn.
Where I come from, the brothers, uncles and male cousins wold not wait until dawn. The only thing left at dawn would be the smoldering ruins of the house where the mountebank who said this once lived.
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mamashawna Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:17:23pm |
I'm sitting here watching Rush's web cam broadcast from earlier today, and just LOVING THIS! Woo hoo!
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:17:33pm |
I need to change my avatar. I'm not feeling so panicky anymore. As a matter of fact, I'm thinking the campaign season might just be highly entertaining.
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jcm Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:17:45pm |
re: #78 Pshawalaw
So, then AlGore is also a dominionist.
As with most scriptural precepts it has a flip side. The flip side to be given dominion is stewardship of what God has given.
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kuffar Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:17:46pm |
If she was a Chrisitian fundie, why didn't she tow the Conservative Christian Fundie line with respect to LGBT rights...
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HBob Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:18:05pm |
Some ass hat probably "earned" a master's degree by making up the word dominionism.
One ass hat's life's work is another man's sniglet.
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HelloDare Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:18:09pm |
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Big Steve Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:18:13pm |
so decided to watch the MSM nightly news...picked NBC, clearly the most Obamaphile of the stations. I timed it, with a stopwatch McCain/Palin - 11minutes, Obama in the round speech - 3 minutes, Hurricane Gustuv - 3 minutes, Katrina remembrances - 6 minutes...I would say, total scoreboard to McCain for driving the news cycle. Rove you magnificent bastard.
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Drained Brain Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:18:15pm |
re: #79 LEGION
Have Gun – Will Travel
Richard Boone as Paladin
Genre Western
Created by Sam Rolfe
Herb Meadow
Starring Richard Boone
Theme music composer Johnny Western
Richard Boone
Sam Rolfe (closing theme)
Opening theme composed by Bernard Herrmann
Ending theme "Ballad of Paladin"
Country of origin United States
Language(s) English
No. of seasons 6
No. of episodes 225
Brings back memories...
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WrathofG-d Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:18:28pm |
Let's abolish weekends as they are a violation of church & state.
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DesertSage Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:18:58pm |
re: #74 calcajun
"Dominionist"? Does that mean she's into leather?
You're thinking Dominatrix. Most Kos Kiddies are into that.
And maybe some of us here too?
:')
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livefreeor die Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:19:04pm |
re: #14 Russkilitlover
Ain't it neat to see "progressive" "liberals" bash a woman/minority into the ground, step on them and grind away with their heels? What an altruistic party.
(What F*cking hyprocrites and reactionaries!)
Yes, only they get to decide what a progressive woman should be. You see a woman who has made it on her own is not as progressive as one who let her husband treat her like dirt and humiliate her and she quietly put up with it because he promised her a Senate seat.
If the Republicans ever attacked a woman the way Palin has been attacked today, the press would be having mass fits. But see, only liberal women are important. Sexist hypocrites.
/rant off
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:19:51pm |
re: #64 Bobblehead
Blindsided I tell you, blindsided! Those idiots don't know what to do. Best just to laugh at their paranoid ravings.
They really weren't blindsided. There has been very strong advocacy of picking Palin for the VP spot here on LGF for several months now. So it really wasn't a surprise.
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hillbilly geek Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:19:57pm |
As Gustav is reminding us, there's a bit of a gap between claiming Dominion, and actually being able to exercise it.
From a technical/theological standpoint, it's also instructive to observe that the Lord gave dominion to an unfallen Adam and Eve, with their innocence intact.
The more extreme fringes of this philosophy do advocate "Christian sharia", if you will. The. more. extreme. fringes.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:20:15pm |
One of the newer smears is that, well, they only met once.
Oh, and did we mention her hubby and son aren't even registered Republicans? How perfectly damning!
/this is just from Politico's homepage, I'm not even searching yet!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:20:19pm |
From dogemperor's post (emphasis mine):
"...suffice it to say that another notable church he's had close connections with is the very church I am a walkaway from--hence how I know some of this up close and personal."
That wording rings alarm bells in my mind. I immediately want to know motive.
'Tis a generalization, but seriously disaffected church members are the last people to trust for a factual opinion.
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Olderthandirt Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:20:35pm |
OMG, she'd use legal authority to shut down web sites hostile to her opinions, she'd raise civilian groups to march and support her causes, she'd accuse everyone not supporting her of being sexist, she'd promise the moon, sun, and stars to all residents, legal or illegal, to gain their support. OMG, that's exactly what Obamamessiah is doing. OMG!
./wakey wakey time!
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Pshawalaw Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:21:03pm |
Kos Kids aside; I liked what I heard from her. Maybe it is just that I am a man, but she was impressive.
Nice speech too.
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:21:26pm |
re: #81 mamashawna
I'm sitting here watching Rush's web cam broadcast from earlier today, and just LOVING THIS! Woo hoo!
I've watched the announcement twice. What a well spoken, attractive woman. Nice family too. When I read the news at the office today I almost started doing a little happy dance but restrained myself so as not to cause bad feelings with my Obama loving colleagues.
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solomonpanting Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:21:33pm |
If it were possible to have Palin's credentials and have a (D) after her name, she'd be the Second Coming of Obama.
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:21:38pm |
Palin's faked "pregnancy"? Covering for teen daughter?
This crap was on there earlier
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:21:57pm |
re: #76 arizona9
To watch how fast and how far the left will attack her as a woman will be fascinating. Completely predictable but fascinating. Already, I heard an attack on her bashing her over how could she be a good mother while being VP. The hypocrisy wer're about to witness will be unlike anything we've ever seen. Unprecedented
They are barbarians. They believe in attacking the weak or those that they perceive to be weak. It's the SOP for Marxists.
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ergo sum Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:22:23pm |
Now the Koswads are claiming that Trig is a coverup for the teenage daughter and not Sarah's baby. Dear God, those people are deranged!
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:22:43pm |
re: #91 DesertSage
Don't make me gag. I think we should exercise some restraint here and mask our feelings. No harsh language--just "safe" words.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:22:44pm |
re: #43 Mister Ghost
It's the Dominion from Star Trek: Deep Space 9. The Kos Kids believe Sarah Palin is a Changeling and may be trying infiltrate her way to the highest echelons of our government.
The only changeling on Earth is our agent, Zombie.
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livefreeor die Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:22:54pm |
re: #32 Bobblehead
Via Hot Air..check this one out. I know it's been said many times and many ways but those people are sick, sick, sick.
I saw that earlier. It made my stomach turn. These people are awful. But the level of pure venom they are spewing makes me think they are very, very scared.
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arizona9 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:23:04pm |
re: #101 Typicalwhitey
This crap was on there earlier
Oh my god. They went lower faster than I could have ever imagined. And I love it. Means they are scared.
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CIA Reject Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:23:05pm |
re: #102 The Other Les
They are barbarians. They believe in attacking the weak or those that they perceive to be weak. It's the SOP for Marxists.
And hyenas...
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:23:10pm |
re: #89 Drained Brain
Brings back memories...
Geez, I loved Have Gun-Will Travel when I was a kid. Great actor that Richard Boone.
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rawmuse Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:23:17pm |
"I heard an attack on her bashing her over how could she be a good mother while being VP."
Of course, Dems are the very first ones to ship their own kids off to "day care" to have their children raised by perfect strangers.
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LemonJoose Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:23:41pm |
That thing reads exactly like prototypical tinfoil-hat troofer conspiracy theory. I'm surprised they didn't find a way to link her to secret human-sacrifice and cannibalism rituals, or something.
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HelloDare Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:23:57pm |
re: #101 Typicalwhitey
This crap was on there earlier
Missed that. Wow. The Onion might go out of business. No need for them with the moonbat left.
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yochanan Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:24:20pm |
re: #78 Pshawalaw
And God blessed [ Adam and Eve ] and God said unto them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth." --Genesis 1:28
as a Jew I have no problem with this at all.
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dwigg Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:24:25pm |
Gov. Palin supposedly has a 80-90% approval rating in Alaska. Do the moon bats hate the cold that much, not to live there? Must be a conservative paradise.
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Colonel Panik Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:24:47pm |
Dominionists? Aren't those the aliens who live on the other side of the wormhole in Star Trek: Deep Space 9?
/sarc
Laters lizards I'm off to the D-Backs game.
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SnakeSpit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:24:50pm |
re: #67 Drained Brain
Them's my sentiments too!
If a rattlesnake was to fart, it'd blow dirt in their eyes.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:24:58pm |
re: #103 ergo sum
And this is also possibly libelous--even if she is a public figure. Kos is publishing materials he quite possibly has no valid reason to believe to be true. (Can't remember the Times v. Sullivan test for public personages)
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reine.de.tout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:25:15pm |
re: #111 rawmuse
"I heard an attack on her bashing her over how could she be a good mother while being VP."
Of course, Dems are the very first ones to ship their own kids off to "day care" to have their children raised by perfect strangers.
And, how often have you ever seen a man bashed over how could he be a good Dad while being VP?
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livefreeor die Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:25:20pm |
re: #111 rawmuse
"I heard an attack on her bashing her over how could she be a good mother while being VP."
Of course, Dems are the very first ones to ship their own kids off to "day care" to have their children raised by perfect strangers.
So, are Dems saying the only good mother is one who is barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen?
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kuffar Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:25:24pm |
re: #112 LemonJoose
She is a Christian Doesn't everyone know that Christians are into cannabalism and suicide bombing?
/Rosie Fat Broad O'Donnel
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:25:36pm |
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Thanos Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:25:42pm |
The Dominionists wanted Eric Cantor btw, this from a dominionist site:
I would have liked to have seen our own Eric Cantor as the choice. I believed, and still believe that Eric Cantor would be an excellent VP and bring many conservatives on board (like myself) the McCain campaign. I still have a lot of issues with McCain.
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mamashawna Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:26:03pm |
re: #99 Bobblehead
I work at home, had a customer show up just as the announcement was starting, and made him come into the house and watch! Had another customer show up that I had to deal with, so missed the end of her speech. Oh well, can see it anytime on youtube, and just might do that later. Got a convenient link?
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hooligan Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:26:13pm |
I'm still howling over "neopenecostal"!
Some of the best local amateur musicians in our area play at the charismatic churches. I love to visit them--when I play hooky from my pretty tame bible church. Most of these churches are multicultural, friendly and not at all scary.
What is scary is a Kos diary trying to analyze Joels Army, Third Wave, and Dominion teachings. What a hoot!
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:26:58pm |
re: #32 Bobblehead
Via Hot Air..check this one out. I know it's been said many times and many ways but those people are sick, sick, sick.
Some Kos-Tard really and truly needs an introduction to a couple of Large Sicilian Gentlemen from New Jersey. Out in a swamp somewhere...
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solomonpanting Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:27:01pm |
re: #111 rawmuse
"I heard an attack on her bashing her over how could she be a good mother while being VP."
How sexist! Isn't her husband going to spend more time with their children? Besides, she probably has more responsibilities as Governor than VP.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:27:57pm |
re: #125 hooligan
I'm still howling over "neopenecostal"!
Some of the best local amateur musicians in our area play at the charismatic churches. I love to visit them--when I play hooky from my pretty tame bible church. Most of these churches are multicultural, friendly and not at all scary.
What is scary is a Kos diary trying to analyze Joels Army, Third Wave, and Dominion teachings. What a hoot!
"neopenecostal"--by strict definition, would that be a Messianic Jew? /
Who comes up with these terms?
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Pshawalaw Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:28:05pm |
re: #114 yochanan
Agreed, no problem if she is a dominionist, sounds like it is our job. Just couldn't keep from pointing out that they are indicting her for the very thing Al Gore is claiming to do.
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littleoldlady Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:28:21pm |
re: #90 WrathofG-d
Let's abolish weekends as they are a violation of church & state.
Don't give the Muslims any freakin' ideas! M'kay?
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loflyer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:28:24pm |
Evening guys! Probably what they are really upset about is McCain's inspired choice, and shifting into "Maverick" mode. I love McCain's refusal to approve ear-marks and his ability to stand on his two feet, and buck the system. I don't always agree with his views, but I applaud his choice for VP. McCain's choice for VP: Inspiring! Obama's choice: boring. This highlights the vast difference in thinking of the candidates. Obama claims he is for change, but is vague about the idea and then selects Biden who is not the sharpest knife on the block when it comes to intelligence or actually getting something done. Whilst Palin has a solid record of reform and conservative values as Mayor and Governor. Plus, she is female and fairly attractive! Great move by McCain! I am excited and all my lib friends at work think I am severely misguided!
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daddyo Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:28:25pm |
re: #17 Kitty
It sounds like she goes to an Assembly of God church. Contrary to popular believe they do not swing on the chandeliers.
What's wrong with swinging on the chandeliers ?
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livefreeor die Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:28:46pm |
re: #128 calcajun
"neopenecostal"--by strict definition, would that be a Messianic Jew? /
Who comes up with these terms?
When you spend enough hours in Mom's basement, you probably start reading the dictionary, looking for cool words to show off to your Kos friends.
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Russkilitlover Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:29:09pm |
re: #92 livefreeor die
Yes, only they get to decide what a progressive woman should be. You see a woman who has made it on her own is not as progressive as one who let her husband treat her like dirt and humiliate her and she quietly put up with it because he promised her a Senate seat.
If the Republicans ever attacked a woman the way Palin has been attacked today, the press would be having mass fits. But see, only liberal women are important. Sexist hypocrites.
/rant off
WORD!
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jcm Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:29:17pm |
re: #132 daddyo
What's wrong with swinging on the chandeliers ?
Have to install chandeliers first...
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:29:26pm |
re: #124 mamashawna
I work at home, had a customer show up just as the announcement was starting, and made him come into the house and watch! Had another customer show up that I had to deal with, so missed the end of her speech. Oh well, can see it anytime on youtube, and just might do that later. Got a convenient link?
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:29:42pm |
re: #96 pre-Boomer Marine brat
MWHA!
[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com...]
(I don't doubt that Gov. Palin has a dog, but I'd bet she has a cat, too!)
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:29:46pm |
If Obama's campaign or the DNC tries attacking Palin based upon gender or motherhood role, it will likely lead to even more PUMAs and their sympathizers voting for McCain.
/c'mon Democrats! Get stupid!
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MandyManners Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:30:12pm |
Does anyone remember James Gaius Watt?
bbl
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:30:14pm |
re: #128 calcajun
"neopenecostal"--by strict definition, would that be a Messianic Jew? /
Who comes up with these terms?
I used to think it was some committee that met in the basement of some building in the Kremlin. But some of this stuff is too whacked out even for the Soviets.
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Sol Roth Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:30:28pm |
Didn't Seinfeld have an episode about "master of your dominion" as a euphemism for masturbation?
Kosmunists, masturbation, kosmunists, masturbation, kosmunists, masturbation. Yep, pretty much go gland-in-hand.
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jcm Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:30:41pm |
re: #139 goddessoftheclassroom
MWHA!
[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com.. .]
(I don't doubt that Gov. Palin has a dog, but I'd bet she has a cat, too!)
We know Gov. Palin has lost the PETA vote...
She's bagged a moose.
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calvin coolidge Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:30:58pm |
Kos is still angry that we were smart enough to buy Alaska from their motherland.
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Atweber Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:31:20pm |
I'm on my way to Sitka in the morning--it will be very interesting to see the local reaction to this whole rigamarole.
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mamashawna Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:31:32pm |
re: #138 Bobblehead
Thank you! My hubby was on site today, and missed it. Cant' wait to show him the whole thing! I AM SO STOKED! Where's the FNDT? I gots my beers lined up baby!
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Geepers Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:31:37pm |
pre-Boomer Marine brat (#140),
If Obama's campaign or the DNC tries attacking Palin based upon gender or motherhood role, it will likely lead to even more PUMAs and their sympathizers voting for McCain./c'mon Democrats! Get more stupid!
Fixed that for ya. ;-)
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livefreeor die Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:31:44pm |
re: #144 jcm
We know Gov. Palin has lost the PETA vote...
She's bagged a moose.
Next stop, she can bag a Bidenus plugum.
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Russkilitlover Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:32:14pm |
re: #119 reine.de.tout
And, how often have you ever seen a man bashed over how could he be a good Dad while being VP?
Sista! (fist bump) Ain't it the truth!
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pingjockey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:32:21pm |
re: #140 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Never, ever underestimate the stupidity of the left when they are in full howling madness. They are going to to collectively step on their cranks while wearing golf shoes. Mwahahaha!
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loflyer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:32:23pm |
re: #144 jcm
We know Gov. Palin has lost the PETA vote...
She's bagged a moose.
Maybe we should nickname her the "terminator" She has actually killed something. while the governor of California only dreams about it...
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DesertSage Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:32:33pm |
re: #143 Sol Roth
Didn't Seinfeld have an episode about "master of your dominion" as a euphemism for masturbation?
That was "Domain" Sol, Domain!
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:32:35pm |
re: #134 livefreeor die
When you spend enough hours in Mom's basement, you probably start reading the dictionary, looking for cool words to show off to your Kos friends.
Here's one that they can sink their teeth into: PODOPHAGE.
As in why does their mouth taste really yucky right now?
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hillbilly geek Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:32:40pm |
“And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.” Isaiah 6:9, 10, KJV.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:32:51pm |
re: #29 Charles
Dominionism is real enough, but the evidence given in this Kos Kid's post that Palin follows that line is slim to nonexistent. I looked into some of it, and found several distortions, including the same 'creationist' distortion I posted about earlier.
Charles -
Would you agree that this is - "Horse Hockey" - Col. Sherman Potter, 1952?
-S-
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JSK1121 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:32:57pm |
re: #93 The Other Les
They really weren't blindsided. There has been very strong advocacy of picking Palin for the VP spot here on LGF for several months now. So it really wasn't a surprise.
And LGF has what effect on the Veepstakes?
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hooligan Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:33:01pm |
re: #128 calcajun
"Messianic Jew" oh, stop it, I am dying here! LOL
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:33:08pm |
re: #151 pingjockey
Never, ever underestimate the stupidity of the left
when they are in full howling madness.
You were too verbose.
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jcm Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:33:11pm |
re: #149 livefreeor die
Next stop, she can bag a Bidenus plugum.
That's just not fair, easier than fish in barrel.
I can see the debate already, he goes into full froth, she smiles...
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:33:12pm |
re: #144 jcm
We know Gov. Palin has lost the PETA vote...
She's bagged a moose.
I know her husband's a big fell, but I wouldn't go that far.
Oh, you mean with those antler thingys. Never mind.
Have you seen the Youtube video of her squeezing off a few rounds with her hair up and wearing earrings? June Cleaver she ain't.
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Big Steve Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:33:46pm |
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pingjockey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:33:48pm |
re: #159 Fat Jolly Penguin
Thank you. But I was on a roll!
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:33:57pm |
re: #143 Sol Roth
Didn't Seinfeld have an episode about "master of your dominion" as a euphemism for masturbation?
Kosmunists, masturbation, kosmunists, masturbation, kosmunists, masturbation. Yep, pretty much go gland-in-hand.
Yes. But just try to catch them with the evidence in hand.
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:34:41pm |
I STILL don't get it. These guys need to chill a bit and get out of the basement.
Oh wait, the sun might burn them.. /snark snark
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Shug Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:34:54pm |
re: #6 rawmuse
Sometimes you can measure the effectiveness of a candidate by how loud the oppositions squawks.
except that kos kids are perpetual squawkers...like infants with diaper rash
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:35:01pm |
re: #144 jcm
We know Gov. Palin has lost the PETA vote...
She's bagged a moose.
Mind you Moose bites can be nasti...
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:35:18pm |
They are calling her a "token", saying she is covering for her daughter with the baby, calling her husband the "shadow governor", the only quotes kos uses are from msnbc, mocking her down syndrome son, and many diaries saying that their diehard republican brother/mother/father/sister etc have announced that they will not vote for Senator McCain now because of her.
LMAO
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loflyer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:35:19pm |
re: #157 JSK1121
And LGF has what effect on the Veepstakes?
I don't know, but Charles and LGF did a pretty good job in 2004 of outing the forged CBS 60 minutes document. LGF helped turn the tide, and that's historical fact.
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HelloDare Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:35:24pm |
re: #145 calvin coolidge
Kos is still angry that we were smart enough to buy Alaska from their motherland.
Damn that imperialist expansionist William Seward, damn him to hell. /
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:35:43pm |
re: #139 goddessoftheclassroom
MWHA!
[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com.. .]
(I don't doubt that Gov. Palin has a dog, but I'd bet she has a cat, too!)
OH! My SIDES are HURTING!
MWAH!
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:35:44pm |
re: #168 The Other Les
Mind you Moose bites can be nasti...
Okay--Let's just jump straight to the llamas, shall we.
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Sol Roth Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:35:59pm |
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CIA Reject Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:36:33pm |
re: #149 livefreeor die
Next stop, she can bag a Bidenus plugum plagarum blowhardus.
fixed improved(?) if for you
:-)
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:36:46pm |
re: #139 goddessoftheclassroom
Pardon the tardiness of my reply, above. I was e-mailing the link to two friends!
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:37:02pm |
OT: Uncle Ted (Ted Nugent) on Glen Beck. I heart "The NUGE"!
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:37:03pm |
It will be interesting to see how much money McCain collected right after the announcement.
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AuldTrafford Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:37:08pm |
Oh - Assembly of God. Whew. When they said she was Dominionist, I thought maybe she was a secret Canuck or something.
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CIA Reject Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:37:21pm |
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livefreeor die Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:37:29pm |
re: #169 Typicalwhitey
They are calling her a "token", saying she is covering for her daughter with the baby, calling her husband the "shadow governor", the only quotes kos uses are from msnbc, mocking her down syndrome son, and many diaries saying that their diehard republican brother/mother/father/sister etc have announced that they will not vote for Senator McCain now because of her.
LMAO
Kos speak translation: Every woman would abort a child with Down's Syndrome, no woman could be an effective governor on her own, making fun of babies with disabilities is cool, republicans talk to us and we know that the sky did not just fall on us.
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Thanos Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:37:45pm |
The nice thing about all the posting here on creationism is that the average lizard knows a great deal more about this subject than the average kostard, we are well prepared to counter false charges and distractions.
Now that the slates are set, we best be set for a fresh influx of mobies btw.
Also note that the Dominionists will be supporting this choice simply because she is conservative and Christian, it's a get on the bus or get left behind moment, they will be taking a seat. Let's not let that distract us.
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JSK1121 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:38:07pm |
re: #180 AuldTrafford
Oh - Assembly of God. Whew. When they said she was Dominionist, I thought maybe she was a secret Canuck or something.
Oh no! The Manchurian/Ottowan Candidate?!
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shifty Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:38:24pm |
Those guys are so bitter than neither candidate picked Markos to be the first female VP.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:38:45pm |
re: #180 AuldTrafford
Hey--her state is bordered by two hostile countries (don't trust Canadians-never have, never will). Don't tell me she doesn't know anything about foreign policy.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:38:56pm |
re: #71 Sharmuta
I think in this kosling's mind, all you have to do to be a Dominionist is go to church once a week.
Shit, that makes me one then. LOL!
/Wonder what holy water does to a Kos Kid?
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:39:00pm |
re: #157 JSK1121
And LGF has what effect on the Veepstakes?
Good question.
We know the Kos-tards and Huff-puffers are monitoring.
Why shouldn't someone from the McCain camp be reading in too?
And its not like this is a secret society where we don't repeat what we say to folks on the outside. Word is going to get out.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:39:00pm |
According to her bio on Wiki (I can't get on her official bio page--heavy traffic, I guess), today is her 20th wedding anniversary.
Her kids' names are Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper, and Trig. Based only on this, I would have guessed she was was leftie--just goes to show the danger of judging before being informed.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:39:23pm |
Wow... their heads are exploding already. I figured that would happen the day after the election when they rolled out of bed at noon to find out McCain won.
They aren't going to wait that long before losing it.
/Every day like Christmas, every meal a banquet, every formation a parade, God I love this country!
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:39:52pm |
re: #181 CIA Reject
A moose bit my sister once...
No. Jump the to end--enough with the moose bites already. Bring on the llamas.
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Geepers Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:40:13pm |
Thanos (#183),
Now that the slates are set, we best be set for a fresh influx of mobies btw.
Possible sighting on the last thread: bitterhop.
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AuldTrafford Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:40:20pm |
re: #186 calcajun
Hey--her state is bordered by two hostile countries (don't trust Canadians-never have, never will). Don't tell me she doesn't know anything about foreign policy.
Exactly right: Canada and Santa Claus.
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Outrider Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:40:31pm |
Reading the collective rants of the Koslings is always amusing and enlightening. Equally amusing are their attempts to sound, oh so literate and grownup. And failing at both.
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womball Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:40:34pm |
Hahaha, right on time. Always reliable for entertainment the kossacks.
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rightymouse Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:40:36pm |
The KosKiddies have their panties in a wad because Palin is a smart, successful woman, with real convictions and principles. Not some caricature in a pant-suit.
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LeePro Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:40:53pm |
re: #159 Fat Jolly Penguin
You were too verbose.
Damn. You're GOO_O_O_O_O_OOD! ! !
And you're such a young 'un! ! !
;D
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Thanos Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:41:15pm |
re: #189 goddessoftheclassroom
According to her bio on Wiki (I can't get on her official bio page--heavy traffic, I guess), today is her 20th wedding anniversary.
Her kids' names are Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper, and Trig. Based only on this, I would have guessed she was was leftie--just goes to show the danger of judging before being informed.
Her kids are all named for towns and villages in Alaska.
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Outrider Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:41:32pm |
re: #185 shifty
Those guys are so bitter than neither candidate picked Markos to be the first female VP.
Zing...Pow...that's gonna leave a mark.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:41:35pm |
re: #183 Thanos
The nice thing about all the posting here on creationism is that the average lizard knows a great deal more about this subject than the average kostard, we are well prepared to counter false charges and distractions.
Now that the slates are set, we best be set for a fresh influx of mobies btw.
Also note that the Dominionists will be supporting this choice simply because she is conservative and Christian, it's a get on the bus or get left behind moment, they will be taking a seat. Let's not let that distract us.
Wisdom.
Keep it coming.
Some of us (moi) aren't accustomed to the current debate.
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loflyer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:41:43pm |
re: #184 JSK1121
Oh no! The Manchurian/Ottowan Candidate?!
I think what Kos is so upset is that it is an inspired choice, compared to Obama's less than inspired choice. McCain is going into the convention swinging with a really good choice, and the Democrats are left in the backseat. Obama recieved no popularity "bump" coming out of the convention, McCain will!
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:42:11pm |
BTW, if I didn't say it yet today, fuck you, Markos, you and your little Kossacks too.
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livefreeor die Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:42:31pm |
re: #202 Honorary Yooper
BTW, if I didn't say it yet today, fuck you, Markos, you and your little Kossacks too.
Second.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:42:43pm |
re: #198 Thanos
Her kids are all named for towns and villages in Alaska.
Now that is cool. Thank you for explaining! Not that her name choices were any of my business...
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:42:47pm |
re: #191 calcajun
No. Jump the to end--enough with the moose bites already. Bring on the llamas.
How many Ilamas?
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Big Steve Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:43:44pm |
re: #190 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Wow... their heads are exploding already.
I am imagining the KOS kids making that sound a dog makes when it is has been shot in the ass with a pellet gun...just don't know how to write that sound...someone help me out.
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DesertSage Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:43:55pm |
People will be swarming to campaign events just to see Sarah Palin.
Absolutely brilliant strategy by Rove McCain!
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Ringo the Gringo Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:43:58pm |
I tried to read that Kos post but it's just too damn convoluted for a Friday at closing time.
If they're trying to say that she belongs to a religion that has some beliefs that seem strange to outsiders, well big deal, every religion seems strange to outsiders.
If this is the best they got then they've got nothing.
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:44:06pm |
re: #205 The Other Les
How many Ilamas?
Since you brought up llamas, someone should tell the Koz Kids to "save the drama for your llama"
: )
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LeePro Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:44:10pm |
re: #186 calcajun
Hey--her state is bordered by two hostile countries (don't trust Canadians-never have, never will). Don't tell me she doesn't know anything about foreign policy.
Watch it there, bud! Many of our loyal Lizards are canucks! ! !
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:44:13pm |
re: #189 goddessoftheclassroom
According to her bio on Wiki (I can't get on her official bio page--heavy traffic, I guess), today is her 20th wedding anniversary.
Her kids' names are Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper, and Trig. Based only on this, I would have guessed she was was leftie--just goes to show the danger of judging before being informed.
Watch out for Piper. I see big things for her, right around 2036 or 2040...
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:44:13pm |
re: #201 loflyer
I think what Kos is so upset is that it is an inspired choice, compared to Obama's less than inspired choice. McCain is going into the convention swinging with a really good choice, and the Democrats are left in the backseat. Obama recieved no popularity "bump" coming out of the convention, McCain will!
I'm looking forward to a joyous Republican Convention.
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Outrider Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:44:22pm |
re: #187 Honorary Yooper
Shit, that makes me one then. LOL!
/Wonder what holy water does to a Kos Kid?
"Ohhh nooo, I'm melting..."
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:44:33pm |
re: #201 loflyer
I think what Kos is so upset is that it is an inspired choice, compared to Obama's less than inspired choice. McCain is going into the convention swinging with a really good choice, and the Democrats are left in the backseat. Obama recieved no popularity "bump" coming out of the convention, McCain will!
McCain certainly ain't playing to lose, in every sense of the word! Today, I went from voting against a Ayers fellow-traveler to voting FOR an American ticket!
I am certain I am not alone.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:44:33pm |
re: #193 AuldTrafford
Exactly right: Canada and Santa Claus.
Uh, I was thinking a little more west than north--or more north and then sharply south. Try Russia
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:44:45pm |
jcm, have we had a moose-pun-run yet today? I've had to be out of the room a good bit.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:44:59pm |
re: #206 Big Steve
I am imagining the KOS kids making that sound a dog makes when it is has been shot in the ass with a pellet gun...just don't know how to write that sound...someone help me out.
Yiii-yelp !
yit... yit... yit
(YMMV)
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rightymouse Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:45:04pm |
This has probably been noted before, but I expect that McCain's poll bump will make Obama's look like a hiccup.
If Palin doesn't help energize our base, I'm not sure who could. Every Rep I've spoken to today is totally pumped.
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GeeWiz Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:45:07pm |
I've spent over 2.5 hours here doing nothing more than up-dnging the posters here. SP is McCain's pick and she has brought excitement to the right and done nothing more than raise the ire of the left. I am reminded of the quote, "when you are over the target, you recieve the most flak"!
Good on ya John!
GO SARAH!
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callahan23 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:45:09pm |
re: #202 Honorary Yooper
BTW, if I didn't say it yet today, fuck you, Markos, you and your little Kossacks too.
Affirmative!
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Meatsss Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:45:24pm |
What happened to applying no religious test to a candidate for national office?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:45:26pm |
neopentecostal dominionists
Should I google that term or did they just make it up?
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:45:52pm |
Heh, been trying to establish dominion over my cat and he just gives me that go to hell glare.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:46:04pm |
re: #205 The Other Les
How many Ilamas?
to be precise:
EARL J. LLAMA
MIKE Q. LLAMA III
SY LLAMA
MERLE Z. LLAMA IX
40 SPECIALLY TRAINED
ECUADORIAN MOUNTAIN LLAMAS
6 VENEZUELAN RED LLAMAS
142 MEXICAN WHOOPING LLAMAS
14 NORTH CHILEAN GUANACOS
(CLOSELY RELATED TO THE LLAMA)
REG LLAMA OF BRIXTON
76000 BATTERY LLAMAS
FROM "LLAMA-FRESH" FARMS LTD. NEAR PARAGUAY
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:46:14pm |
re: #220 GeeWiz
I've spent over 2.5 hours here doing nothing more than up-dnging the posters here. SP is McCain's pick and she has brought excitement to the right and done nothing more than raise the ire of the left. I am reminded of the quote, "when you are over the target, you recieve the most flak"!
Good on ya John!
GO SARAH!
And you drop the bombs. Mission accomplished.
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Sharmuta Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:46:37pm |
re: #187 Honorary Yooper
Wonder what holy water does to a Kos Kid?
It has about the same effect as a strong, intelligent conservative woman has.
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AuldTrafford Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:46:54pm |
re: #216 calcajun
Uh, I was thinking a little more west than north--or more north and then sharply south. Try Russia
Oh, that one. Aren't they on our side? Part of NATO, I thought. Anybody that will go to war with Georgia is OK with me; hate Atlanta, especially at rush hour.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:46:57pm |
re: #224 vagabond trader
Heh, been trying to establish dominion over my cat and he just gives me that go to hell glare.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:46:59pm |
re: #222 Meatsss
What happened to applying no religious test to a candidate for national office?
What, you mean the one that if they weigh the same as a duck...
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Shug Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:47:00pm |
Joe Biden adds nothing. He is a nothing candidate. His vote totals in the democrat primary were so low , using the margin of error he actually had less than zero % of the vote totals.
Palin appeals to real americans. Lots of working mothers out there, and they do vote.
They will not vote for Biden and Hussein Obama.
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livefreeor die Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:47:23pm |
Somewhere, the Obameister and his staff are huddled together wetting their pants.
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arizona9 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:47:34pm |
Children with Down's syndrome require an awful lot of attention. The role of Vice President, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time, and it raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?"
CNN's John Roberts-
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Thanos Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:47:35pm |
You are welcome Goddess, I'm just happy she didn't name them after some of the more obscure villages up there like some do. What kid wants to be named Anatuvak or Hoonah?
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Geepers Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:47:42pm |
Taqyia2Me (#215),
McCain certainly ain't playing to lose, in every sense of the word! Today, I went from voting against a Ayers fellow-traveler to voting FOR an American ticket!
I am certain I am not alone.
And you are right.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:47:52pm |
re: #225 calcajun
You are dallying with the llama.
Go Tibet without your supper!
/no offense intended
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Sharmuta Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:47:55pm |
re: #223 Killgore Trout
Should I google that term or did they just make it up?
Sticking in in yahoo and the first hit I got was something on Dubya.
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:48:02pm |
re: #232 livefreeor die
Somewhere, the Obameister and his staff are huddled together wetting their pants.
Big huge fuck-up on their part not putting Hillary! on the ticket.
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livefreeor die Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:48:26pm |
re: #233 arizona9
Children with Down's syndrome require an awful lot of attention. The role of Vice President, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time, and it raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?"
CNN's John Roberts-
Ladies, we still have a long way to go.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:48:28pm |
re: #222 Meatsss
The Obama opened the "religion" issue with that hideous church he dragged his family to.
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WayDownSouthInBama Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:48:30pm |
The real problem most Kos Kids have with Palin is that she believes in a Living God and living babies. The opposite view of most Kos Kids. Worship of God instead of man,raising of babies instead of killing them through abortion. Yep,I see why the Kos Kids are upset.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:48:31pm |
re: #227 Sharmuta
It has about the same effect as a strong, intelligent conservative woman has.
LOL!
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womball Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:48:32pm |
re: #227 Sharmuta
It has about the same effect as a strong, intelligent conservative woman has.
Where are the JEwish ones? Most I know are very liberal.
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Shug Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:48:48pm |
re: #233 arizona9
Children with Down's syndrome require an awful lot of attention. The role of Vice President, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time, and it raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?"
CNN's John Roberts-
Unbelieveable.
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Thanos Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:48:53pm |
re: #231 Shug
Joe Biden adds nothing. He is a nothing candidate. His vote totals in the democrat primary were so low , using the margin of error he actually had less than zero % of the vote totals.
Palin appeals to real americans. Lots of working mothers out there, and they do vote.
They will not vote for Biden and Hussein Obama.
Actually he pulls in the cash from the Credit card lobbies and insurance outfits.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:48:55pm |
re: #238 Taqyia2Me
Big huge fuck-up on their part not putting Hillary! on the ticket.
Well, they'll pay dearly for it. Hell, with an Obama loss, expect a major purge within their ranks.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:48:58pm |
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nikis-knight Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:49:09pm |
re: #233 arizona9
Stupid on so many levels. Perhaps the child's father can tend to him? I think they can get by on just her salary as VP... Anyway, I'm sure Vice pres requires not so much more time than governor.
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:49:09pm |
re: #233 arizona9
Children with Down's syndrome require an awful lot of attention. The role of Vice President, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time, and it raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?"
CNN's John Roberts-
Desperation. It's a terrible thing!
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:49:12pm |
re: #227 Sharmuta
It has about the same effect as a strong, intelligent conservative woman has.
You know, that's how some of the Kos Kids want Mistress Spanksalot to act when they go in for a session. They like it, but won't admit it.
;)
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Big Steve Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:49:22pm |
Well the KOS kids are speculating that she had her daughter's baby and the hardcore feminists are saying that she really isn't a woman...for crying out loud, what is she packing down there?
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Outrider Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:49:37pm |
re: #233 arizona9
Children with Down's syndrome require an awful lot of attention. The role of Vice President, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time, and it raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?"
CNN's John Roberts-
As working Mothers heads explode all over the world over the sheer stupidity of such a remark.
Hey Roberts, how about all them working Mothers on CNN staff. They shooting daggers your way yet?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:49:39pm |
WTF is Joel's Army? Is any of this stuff real or ar they just making stuff up?
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:49:48pm |
Would it be too catty of me to point out that like the Obamas, Gov. Palin got through college on her looks?
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Perry Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:49:57pm |
If McCain / Palin win in '08, what would that do for Hillary's chances in '12?
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Geepers Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:49:57pm |
livefreeor die (#232),
Somewhere, the Obameister and his staff are huddled together wetting their pants.
True.
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jwb7605 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:50:06pm |
re: #218 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Yiii-yelp !
yit... yit... yit
(YMMV)
That's a KOS dog.
Mine does the "Yiii-yelp", then follows is up with a
snrrr ... snrrr ... garhagh garhagh SNAP.
Recommended: be backed up five feet before the SNAP.
120 lbs ... see avatar.
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arizona9 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:50:09pm |
re: #238 Taqyia2Me
Big huge fuck-up on their part not putting Hillary! on the ticket.
And somewhere Hillary is cackling with glee!
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Big Steve Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:50:10pm |
re: #233 arizona9
Children with Down's syndrome require an awful lot of attention. The role of Vice President, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time, and it raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?"
CNN's John Roberts-
ah...its called a husband.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:50:20pm |
re: #232 livefreeor die
Somewhere, the Obameister and his staff are huddled together wetting their pants.
I thought they were in Epcot--not San Francisco.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:50:32pm |
re: #237 Sharmuta
I googled Joel's Army and got some hits but I still have no idea what it is.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:50:35pm |
re: #213 Bobblehead
I'm looking forward to a joyous Republican Convention.
As long as Gustav doesn't slam into New Orleans. Because if it does, you guys aren't gonna have much of a convention.
At least we can safely say there won't be one death in Louisiana this time around eh? ;)
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:50:41pm |
re: #251 Big Steve
Well the KOS kids are speculating that she had her daughter's baby and the hardcore feminists are saying that she really isn't a woman...for crying out loud, what is she packing down there?
More stones than they ever knew existed!
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iceman1960 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:50:44pm |
The people on the left are losing it over Palin. I'm scanning the channels and the folks at MSNBC are falling apart. Chrissy Mathews is starting to slobber and stutter like he's getting some sort of nervous tick.
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twincitiesgirl Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:50:57pm |
They've already slammed her stint as the mayor of a small town, now her religious beliefs, what about the guns, or did I miss that?
You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them…And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustration
~The One~NObama
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Big Steve Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:51:02pm |
re: #254 goddessoftheclassroom
Would it be too catty of me to point out that like the Obamas, Gov. Palin got through college on her looks?
yes...but if you have pictures of her in college I would be glad to evaluate.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:51:03pm |
re: #251 Big Steve
Fear of the vagina, it's a terrible affliction, no effective treatment.
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conservativeChick Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:51:10pm |
Ahh. Their so cute when they are paranoid. They make Stan so proud!
/and God shakes his head in shame
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nikis-knight Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:51:39pm |
re: #246 Honorary Yooper
Well, they'll pay dearly for it. Hell, with an Obama loss, expect a major purge within their ranks.
Or maybe a schism... Or just a huge defecation (or is that defection? Nah.) of the Kos nutroot types to the Greenies...
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DesertSage Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:51:42pm |
re: #255 Perry
If McCain / Palin win in '08, what would that do for Hillary's chances in '12?
It doesn't matter, she'll be in prison for trying to kill Obama.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:51:49pm |
re: #268 vagabond trader
Fear of the vagina, it's a terrible affliction, no effective treatment.
What do you call "marriage"?
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iceman1960 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:52:04pm |
You can tell Palin was a good pick just by the reaction of the left.
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:52:05pm |
re: #239 livefreeor die
Ladies, we still have a long way to go.
And thanks John for putting down all women who work and tend to disabled children. Very progressive of you. A**hole
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:52:13pm |
re: #257 jwb7605
120 pounds of dog ... or hair?
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loflyer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:52:14pm |
re: #213 Bobblehead
I'm looking forward to a joyous Republican Convention.
I am going to handle it the same as the Democrat convention hanging out here, and talking the convention with everyone. I have really enjoyed the last week on LGF! I salute Charles and Zombie on their coverage of the convention. It was really great, guys!
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Sol Roth Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:52:14pm |
re: #233 arizona9
Children with Down's syndrome require an awful lot of attention. The role of Vice President, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time, and it raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?"
CNN's John Roberts-
They paint this picture because default-Marxists can't conceive of an extended, nuclear family helping her. Marxism must destroy the nuclear family in order to shift allegiance to the State.
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CIA Reject Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:52:31pm |
re: #191 calcajun
No. Jump the to end--enough with the moose bites already. Bring on the llamas.
And RALPH THE WONDER LLAMA!
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livefreeor die Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:52:45pm |
re: #271 DesertSage
It doesn't matter, she'll be in prison for trying to kill Obama.
I thought she was taking a walk in Fort Marcy park with Joe Biden next week. Obama's campaign manager just set it up.
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:52:47pm |
re: #265 iceman1960
The people on the left are losing it over Palin. I'm scanning the channels and the folks at MSNBC are falling apart. Chrissy Mathews is starting to slobber and stutter like he's getting some sort of nervous tick.
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!
Cry Chrissy Cry! Go ahead and cry you little crybaby! Cry!
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:52:51pm |
re: #255 Perry
If McCain / Palin win in '08, what would that do for Hillary's chances in '12?
Well, if she goes up against an incument McCain, it's and uphill battle. If she goes up against Palin, Hillary'll get her ass handed to her.
No matter what, the Obamessiah is up shit crick without a paddle.
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Big Steve Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:52:55pm |
re: #268 vagabond trader
Fear of the vagina, it's a terrible affliction, no effective treatment.
each man for himself I guess...
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:52:57pm |
re: #271 DesertSage
It doesn't matter, she'll be in prison for trying to kill Obama.
She'll be in the Happy Home with trees and flowers and chirping birds...
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arizona9 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:53:04pm |
re: #252 Outrider
As working Mothers heads explode all over the world over the sheer stupidity of such a remark.
Hey Roberts, how about all them working Mothers on CNN staff. They shooting daggers your way yet?
Seriously, this Roberts comment should be made quickly into a campaign ad. It is so revolting on so many levels and highlights the scumbag press and the hypocrisy of many on the left so completely. It will really piss off the die hard Hillary PUMAs, perhaps to a level that will negate their reservations about Palins prolife stance.
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Ringo the Gringo Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:53:29pm |
More Kos brilliance: No, Senator McCain, I Am Not An Idiot
You think I'm stupid.You think I'm going to fall for it.
You think that because I loved Hillary Clinton, gave money to Hillary Clinton, stood in the freezing rain for two hours to see her speak, put a sticker on my car, wore my pin around town, and supported Hillary Clinton to the very end, that I will vote for you.
You think I will forget every single one of my personal and political values just because there's a vagina on your pro-war, anti-woman, anti-science ticket.
You, Senator McCain, are wrong.
I'd love to see a woman in the White House. I would have loved to see a woman on Obama's ticket.
But not this woman.
Not a woman who thinks decisions about my body should be made by hateful old men in Washington.
Not a woman who thinks science is a myth.
Not a woman who thinks the Republican party has anything to offer besides more war, higher taxes, oil dependency, and hate.
I am not falling for it, Senator McCain.
Because what you do not understand is that my support for Hillary was not about anatomy. It was about values. Hillary Clinton articulated and represented my dreams.
You do not. Not even with a vagina on your pathetic ticket.
This changes nothing.
No way. No how. No McCain.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:53:33pm |
re: #267 Big Steve
yes...but if you have pictures of her in college I would be glad to evaluate.
Here you go--she came in second in the Miss Alaska pageant, in which she competed for the scholarship:
[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]
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callahan23 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:53:43pm |
re: 258 arizona9
And somewhere Hillary is cackling with glee!
LOL
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loflyer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:53:44pm |
re: #215 Taqyia2Me
McCain certainly ain't playing to lose, in every sense of the word! Today, I went from voting against a Ayers fellow-traveler to voting FOR an American ticket!
I am certain I am not alone.
I feel the same! Right on!
/As we used to say in the early 70's
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:54:00pm |
Part of a diary over there:
He said he was actually scared what someone like her could do being so sooo in experienced. It really struck me. I hadn't really had time to think about it but he was so immediately turned off by this pick that he told me that he would not vote for McCain, and later that day, he signed up for the first time in his life to volunteer for the Obama Campaign. So in closing, I would like to thank the McCain campaign for picking such a horrible candidate that it actually convinced my father to do something to stop you and Palin from destroying my country. To wrap up this diary, I will leave you with, possibly the best part of my dads rant. When he found out where she was from he yelled "Alaska! Thats hardly even America!"
Dumbass dad raised a dumbass kid lol
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:54:08pm |
re: #282 Big Steve
each man for himself I guess...
Eww. Well, at least we don't have penis envy. Well, not anymore...for a while.
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iceman1960 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:54:20pm |
re: #285 Ringo the Gringo
These people are falling over the edge
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jwb7605 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:54:51pm |
re: #275 pre-Boomer Marine brat
120 pounds of dog ... or hair?
depends on the month ;-)
(She !) looks more like 135 in the winter.
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livefreeor die Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:54:52pm |
re: #284 arizona9
Seriously, this Roberts comment should be made quickly into a campaign ad. It is so revolting on so many levels and highlights the scumbag press and the hypocrisy of many on the left so completely. It will really piss off the die hard Hillary PUMAs, perhaps to a level that will negate their reservations about Palins prolife stance.
I agree. Today has shown just how sexist the liberal left is. Just let those clips of Roberts and his ilk do the talking and demand that Obama come out against them.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:54:52pm |
re: #257 jwb7605
That's a KOS dog.
Mine does the "Yiii-yelp", then follows is up with a
snrrr ... snrrr ... garhagh garhagh SNAP.Recommended: be backed up five feet before the SNAP.
120 lbs ... see avatar.
I've got a new border collie... cross her and you'll wake up one morning hogtied to the beg, naked, covered in whip cream and your car keys flushed down the toilet.
And the dog using the computer to place credit card orders and calling 911 so the helpful fire department can send some of their finest over to crack up laughing at your situation.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:55:38pm |
re: #258 arizona9
And somewhere Hillary is cackling with glee!
I don't think so. I think she's going---"IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME!" I cannot imagine she is remotely happy about this.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:55:46pm |
Speaking of "dogs", it appears that the Obama family may be acquiring a poodle.
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Big Steve Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:55:59pm |
re: #286 goddessoftheclassroom
Here you go--she came in second in the Miss Alaska pageant, in which she competed for the scholarship:
[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]
my new screensaver...I'd offer you a toke in gratitude but I know you wouldn't take it ;)
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Geepers Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:56:03pm |
Children with Down's syndrome require an awful lot of attention. The role of Vice President, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time, and it raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?"CNN's John Roberts-
Hey pre-Boomer Marine brat, you ask for it:
/c'mon Democrats! Get stupid!
You got it.
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armywife Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:56:04pm |
re: #222 Meatsss
That was then, you know when they thought that had this thing in the bag. Its all changed now.
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nikis-knight Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:56:32pm |
re: #296 vagabond trader
Speaking of "dogs", it appears that the Obama family may be acquiring a poodle.
Surely that isn't to ingratiate them to common Americans? Gah, I can't stand fru-fru dogs.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:56:40pm |
re: #285 Ringo the Gringo
More Kos brilliance: No, Senator McCain, I Am Not An Idiot
You think I'm stupid.
You think I'm going to fall for it.You think that because I loved Hillary Clinton, gave money to Hillary Clinton, stood in the freezing rain for two hours to see her speak, put a sticker on my car, wore my pin around town, and supported Hillary Clinton to the very end, that I will vote for you.
You think I will forget every single one of my personal and political values just because there's a vagina on your pro-war, anti-woman, anti-science ticket.
You, Senator McCain, are wrong.
I'd love to see a woman in the White House. I would have loved to see a woman on Obama's ticket.
But not this woman.
Not a woman who thinks decisions about my body should be made by hateful old men in Washington.
Not a woman who thinks science is a myth.
Not a woman who thinks the Republican party has anything to offer besides more war, higher taxes, oil dependency, and hate.
I am not falling for it, Senator McCain.
Because what you do not understand is that my support for Hillary was not about anatomy. It was about values. Hillary Clinton articulated and represented my dreams.
You do not. Not even with a vagina on your pathetic ticket.
This changes nothing.
No way. No how. No McCain.
No, the Kooky Kos Kid is an idiot. This is less about Hillary than it is about the Republican base. Any Hillary defections from the Dems though are gravy, and always welcome. For them, it's a return to sanity from the insanity of the Kossacks and the Obamessiah.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:56:44pm |
re: #286 goddessoftheclassroom
Here you go--she came in second in the Miss Alaska pageant, in which she competed for the scholarship:
[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]
A WHOLE lot better looking than some stupid cat.
*running like hell*
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DesertSage Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:56:47pm |
re: #296 vagabond trader
Speaking of "dogs", it appears that the Obama family may be acquiring a poodle.
With hair plugs?
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:56:49pm |
re: #283 The Other Les
She'll be in the Happy Home with trees and flowers and chirping birds...
...and basket weavers who sit and twiddle their thumbs and toes and they're coming to take her away! Ha! Ha!
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Shug Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:56:55pm |
re: #284 arizona9
and then play the al gore Extra chromosome Crowd comments
Back in 1994, Al Gore called Oliver North "the colonel of untruth" and said Mr. North was counting on political contributions from "the extra-chromosome right wing."
(Sources: White House Special Briefing, 10/28/94; Washington Times, September 4, 1997)
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iceman1960 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:57:12pm |
re: #299 armywife
That was then, you know when they thought that had this thing in the bag. Its all changed now.
They were hoping for change
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jcm Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:57:23pm |
re: #296 vagabond trader
Speaking of "dogs", it appears that the Obama family may be acquiring a poodle.
I thought the did, called it "Plugs."
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Gearhead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:57:40pm |
Does that mean she's from Virginia, or that she owns a lot of leather?
(I'll take it as a good sign that thay have to reach for word like that to criticize her.)
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:57:44pm |
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:57:50pm |
re: #296 vagabond trader
Speaking of "dogs", it appears that the Obama family may be acquiring a poodle.
Them's good eatin'.
A poodle? Cripes. Talk about a fru-fru dog. Shit- get Lab or a Retriever--a real dog.
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rightymouse Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:57:51pm |
re: #285 Ringo the Gringo
Angry Mouse could be my deranged moonbat sister. Sure sounds like her.
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:58:14pm |
re: #295 calcajun
I don't think so. I think she's going---"IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME!" I cannot imagine she is remotely happy about this.
Now sign in hotels: IN CASE OF KEITH MOON HILLARY CLINTON BREAK GLASS.
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Thanos Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:58:17pm |
re: #262 Killgore Trout
I googled Joel's Army and got some hits but I still have no idea what it is.
Reconstructionism, Kostards believe Hagee's church has been taken over. It started with a pamphlet back in 1991 by jewel someone, basically it's dominionism with a new name.
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AuldTrafford Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:58:30pm |
Children with Down's syndrome require an awful lot of attention. The role of Vice President, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time, and it raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?"
CNN's John Roberts.
Like many Lefties - they should read the Constitution. If they did, they would know what the Vice-President does: ...
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:58:38pm |
re: #302 pre-Boomer Marine brat
A WHOLE lot better looking than some stupid cat.
*running like hell*
There is no such thing as a "stupid" cat. On the other hand, to call a canine a "stupid" dog is redundant...
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:58:53pm |
re: #293 livefreeor die
One can only imagine the vile racist comments being spewed by Obama and Hillary fans.Hypocrisy is a virtue in Demoncrat circles.
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callahan23 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 4:59:15pm |
re: #296 vagabond trader
Speaking of "dogs", it appears that the Obama family may be acquiring a poodle.
Isn't poodle a French breed? What a very bad idea.
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livefreeor die Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:00:21pm |
re: #319 callahan23
re: #296 vagabond trader
Isn't poodle a French breed? What a very bad idea.
Sounds right for that candidate and his "foreign policy" views.
Poodles are also very iffy with kids. Some are great, some are downright nasty.
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Gearhead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:00:48pm |
re: #296 vagabond trader
Speaking of "dogs", it appears that the Obama family may be acquiring a poodle.
I figured Kerry was a shoo-in for his cabinet. Surprised they announced it so early.
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Big Steve Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:01:05pm |
re: #317 goddessoftheclassroom
There is no such thing as a "stupid" cat. On the other hand, to call a canine a "stupid" dog is redundant...
I have a stupid cat. He cries when you turn on a ceiling fan. I have had smart cats before but this one is pretty dumb. However he is great looking so he is Paris Hiltoning his way through life.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:01:12pm |
re: #321 livefreeor die
Sounds right for that candidate and his "foreign policy" views.
Poodles are also very iffy with kids. Some are great, some are downright nasty.
Most poddles and other small dogs (like Pomeranians) I've had the misfortune to encounter tend to be mean. Compensation for their size?
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rawmuse Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:01:17pm |
re: #115 dwigg
Alaska does not have an abundance of moonbats. To that, I can attest.
It does have some.
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GeeWiz Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:01:25pm |
re: #226 really grumpy big dog Johnson
And he did! Sarah Palin is the "BOMB" the left cannot defend against without de-fusing their attack machine. Kinda sucks to be an "O" supporter right now. LOL.
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katemaclaren Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:01:42pm |
re: #316 AuldTrafford
CNN's John Roberts.
Like many Lefties - they should read the Constitution. If they did, they would know what the Vice-President does: ...
As usual, no thought about a man in such a position. Shows the brain development has not quite caught up with reality.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:01:55pm |
re: #317 goddessoftheclassroom
There is no such thing as a "stupid" cat. On the other hand, to call a canine a "stupid" dog is redundant...
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:01:57pm |
re: #321 livefreeor die
Supposedly the fur is safe for one of his allergy prone daughters. Personally I think the guy hates animals and this is a pathetic attempt to appear ,gulp, like a typical family.
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LeePro Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:02:08pm |
re: #259 Big Steve
ah...its called a husband.
...and other older children. It's called F A M I L Y ! ! !
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:02:10pm |
In July 2007, Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) traveled to a U.S. military base in Kuwait to visit Alaska National Guard soldiers who provide logistical support for our operations in Iraq. On her return trip, she stopped to visit wounded troops at Landsduhl Regional Medical Center in Germany.
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hazzyday Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:02:12pm |
re: #233 arizona9
Children with Down's syndrome require an awful lot of attention. The role of Vice President, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time, and it raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?"
CNN's John Roberts-
Some people... Someone should kick him in the ass.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:02:12pm |
re: #323 Big Steve
I have a stupid cat. He cries when you turn on a ceiling fan. I have had smart cats before but this one is pretty dumb. However he is great looking so he is Paris Hiltoning his way through life.
ROTFL! I really am!
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Metal Man Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:02:14pm |
re: #316 AuldTrafford
CNN's John Roberts.
Like many Lefties - they should read the Constitution. If they did, they would know what the Vice-President does: ...
The other part is she has a large family and a husband. Do the lefties not see how bad they look when the put this out in the context of a June Cleaver time set.
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armywife Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:02:20pm |
re: #319 callahan23
re: #296 vagabond trader
Isn't poodle a French breed? What a very bad idea.
There are also German Poodles. If that helps.
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livefreeor die Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:02:26pm |
re: #324 Honorary Yooper
Most poddles and other small dogs (like Pomeranians) I've had the misfortune to encounter tend to be mean. Compensation for their size?
Kind of like that cabinet member of Clinton's-Robert Reich or something.
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callahan23 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:03:04pm |
re: #321 livefreeor die
Wasn't that closeness to la French culture John Kerry's undoing?
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katemaclaren Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:03:07pm |
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:03:53pm |
re: #301 Honorary Yooper
No, the Kooky Kos Kid is an idiot. This is less about Hillary than it is about the Republican base. Any Hillary defections from the Dems though are gravy, and always welcome. For them, it's a return to sanity from the insanity of the Kossacks and the Obamessiah.
Heyas Yoop!
That post captured it in a nutshell. I don't know what you guys have been reading, but this woman is NOT a choice that any Democrat would be happy with. Whatever she is or is not, she is a staunch religious conservative and that is not going to win over any Hillary supporters and quite frankly, any of the fence sitters.
As if there were any Dems to win over. The Dem convention brought them all home. Well any that would make a voting difference anyway.
You are right that it isn't about Hillary. When it comes down to it, and the PUMAs lick their wounds, they will vote Democrat because that is what they are after all.
You guys have some serious problems come Nov. It'll be an Obama landslide.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:04:01pm |
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loflyer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:04:08pm |
re: #316 AuldTrafford
CNN's John Roberts.
Like many Lefties - they should read the Constitution. If they did, they would know what the Vice-President does: ...
Like they really fracken' care about the child. The MSM is desperate, McCain pulled an inspired choice and the Democratic convention looks like it was Hollywood scripted while the Republicans look on the move. They are really scared. Expect lots of lies, mistakes and opportunities for LGF and the Pajama media to kick some factual ass in this campaign. I am energized about McCain's choice!
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:04:24pm |
Wasn't Tony Blair referred to as Bushitler's poodle? lmao!
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hillbilly geek Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:04:27pm |
neo pentecostal dominionist
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Oct 3, 2006 ... In most neopentecostal dominionist churches, pretty much the pastor is a de facto dictator; what he says goes, and he has his deacons (and ...
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Red Cloud Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:04:41pm |
re: #285 Ringo the Gringo
Wow. That is singuarly pathetic. I love all of these psychos claiming to speak for an entire group of people, be they women in general or Hillary supporters specifically.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:04:48pm |
"neopentecostal dominionists"
"ninja dominionist"
Huh?
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Semper Gumbi Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:04:49pm |
re: #311 calcajun
Them's good eatin'.
A poodle? Cripes. Talk about a fru-fru dog. Shit- get Lab or a Retriever--a real dog.
Actually, if it is a standard poodle, it's probably smarter than a lab or retriever. Standard poodles were bred as water rescue dogs, if I remember correctly, and are very intelligent.
Now, if it's a toy poodle - yeah, foo foo dog.
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katemaclaren Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:05:22pm |
re: #333 goddessoftheclassroom
ROTFL! I really am!
I had a cat like that, too. So beautiful, so lazy. He looked like the Fancy Feast cat--his name was Posh, we we loved him. When he died (age 17) even considered having him (joking, people) stuffed with lentils by a taxidermist. That way we wouldn't miss him. We'd just toss him onto the back of the sofa and we wouldn't know that he had changed a bit!
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:05:51pm |
re: #346 Semper Gumbi
True, the big ones are very clever and loyal, unlike your avg Demo.
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Thanos Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:05:59pm |
re: #294 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
I've got a new border collie... cross her and you'll wake up one morning hogtied to the beg, naked, covered in whip cream and your car keys flushed down the toilet.
And the dog using the computer to place credit card orders and calling 911 so the helpful fire department can send some of their finest over to crack up laughing at your situation.
I've got an Aussie here
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LeePro Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:06:05pm |
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:06:15pm |
re: #317 goddessoftheclassroom
There is no such thing as a "stupid" cat. On the other hand, to call a canine a "stupid" dog is redundant...
OK, as owner of the smartest dog on the planet, I have to take exception to that. We left my my big old Akita alone in the house some years back. He had--poor guy--a bout of the runs and rather than break his house training, tried to get outside through the kitchen and living room windows--all of which were locked. He went upstairs and knocked out a screen in my daughter's room, went out on the roof and did his business. Unfortunately for him, he disturbed a wasp nest when he punched out the screen, so he was stranded on the roof until we came home. The neighbors thought I was nutty already, but to have 100 lbs of Akita perched on the roof, looking down on the passer-bys like a demented mountain goat cemented that opinion for good.
The old boy is 13 and can still open the back gate and take himself for walks. If he had opposable thumbs, he cold probably drive the car.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:06:17pm |
re: #347 katemaclaren
I had a cat like that, too. So beautiful, so lazy. He looked like the Fancy Feast cat--his name was Posh, we we loved him. When he died (age 17) even considered having him (joking, people) stuffed with lentils by a taxidermist. That way we wouldn't miss him. We'd just toss him onto the back of the sofa and we wouldn't know that he had changed a bit!
I am so giggling...
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armywife Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:06:18pm |
re: #336 livefreeor die
Enough picking on little dogs! I have two of the greatest Chihuahua's EVER. They are not yippy, they are not mean, the love everyone and think everyone loves them. They were raised by my German Shepherd and are a bit confused about what they are, maybe that is the difference.
Back to the topic - I bet Michelle is LIVID Ms. Palin stole Barry O's thunder!
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Perry Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:06:19pm |
re: #340 goddessoftheclassroom
Have to take both cats in the morning. The little one is fiesty and hard to get into her box. The big one-- we've decided we'll have to butter her to squish her into her box.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:06:35pm |
re: #331 Typicalwhitey
On her return trip, she stopped to visit wounded troops at Landsduhl Regional Medical Center in Germany.
Military pictures too
Obama has too much character to stoop to a PR stunt like THAT.
/s
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katemaclaren Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:06:54pm |
re: #339 marjoriemoon
I do not agree. It is, after all, Republicans who can be counted on to reliably vote when it looks like the other side is going to rush the polls.
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CIA Reject Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:07:08pm |
re: #295 calcajun
I don't think so. I think she's going---"IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME!" I cannot imagine she is remotely happy about this.
I'm certain Hillary is PISSED! Her entire strategy has been built around the assumption that McCain will be a 1 term president and she will get to run against some "typical white guy" like Romney or Pawlenty in 2012 and win that election the same way she beat another TWG, Rick Lazio< in 2000.
Now the environment has changed SIGNIFICANTLY
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:07:37pm |
re: #352 calcajun
{calcajun}
I'm just pulling pre-Boomer Marine brat's tail!
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:07:41pm |
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:07:42pm |
re: #351 livefreeor die
Troll alert.
Marge has been looking for some attention for some time. Caught his/her act a couple threads back.
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itellu3times Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:07:44pm |
re: #296 vagabond trader
Speaking of "dogs", it appears that the Obama family may be acquiring a poodle.
What kind of sauce?
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katemaclaren Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:07:48pm |
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livefreeor die Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:07:49pm |
re: #354 armywife
Enough picking on little dogs! I have two of the greatest Chihuahua's EVER. They are not yippy, they are not mean, the love everyone and think everyone loves them. They were raised by my German Shepherd and are a bit confused about what they are, maybe that is the difference.
Back to the topic - I bet Michelle is LIVID Ms. Palin stole Barry O's thunder!
I have a Shih Tzu-I'm not picking on little dogs. I'm relating what we were told by poodle breeders when we were looking for a small dog.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:07:50pm |
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Big Steve Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:07:56pm |
re: #333 goddessoftheclassroom
BTW...been meaning to ask you being a teacher and all, have you ever heard of "subject-independent teaching skills". They were presenting something on this at the School Board meeting last week, in the area of elementary math classes. I acted all sage being a board member but didn't have a clue what it meant.
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:08:00pm |
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:08:03pm |
re: #335 armywife
There are also German Poodles. If that helps.
Yeah but they rip the shit out of the French Poodles every few years and start bossing all the other neighborhood dogs around.
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Perry Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:08:39pm |
re: #362 itellu3times
What kind of sauce?
They're a family of four; they can probably eat a whole one.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:08:53pm |
At least we know what the "progressive narrative" will be: the Christian Right is trying to take over via stealth candidates.
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Thanos Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:09:07pm |
re: #325 rawmuse
Alaska does not have an abundance of moonbats. To that, I can attest.
It does have some.
The state actually attracts more than its fair share of moonbats, but they usually don't make it to a second winter before they skedaddle.
I remember all the "hill freaks" who came up during the seventies and built a cabin to get back to nature. Nature explained reality to them in the form of continual below zero weather and darkness, and they generally left pretty quickly.
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debutaunt Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:09:08pm |
re: #323 Big Steve
I have a stupid cat. He cries when you turn on a ceiling fan. I have had smart cats before but this one is pretty dumb. However he is great looking so he is Paris Hiltoning his way through life.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:09:22pm |
re: #354 armywife
Just saying that to my husband. Betcha she's doing a Shrillary on the Obama with that twisted yap of hers.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:09:34pm |
re: #359 goddessoftheclassroom
I know, but I have to share that story. Akitas are a great breed.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:09:35pm |
re: #351 livefreeor die
Troll alert.
Yeah, you can tell by the smell. Nothing to see here folks, hove along.
Thanos,
Is that your Aussie?
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loflyer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:10:38pm |
re: #339 marjoriemoon
Heyas Yoop!
That post captured it in a nutshell. I don't know what you guys have been reading, but this woman is NOT a choice that any Democrat would be happy with. Whatever she is or is not, she is a staunch religious conservative and that is not going to win over any Hillary supporters and quite frankly, any of the fence sitters.
As if there were any Dems to win over. The Dem convention brought them all home. Well any that would make a voting difference anyway.
You are right that it isn't about Hillary. When it comes down to it, and the PUMAs lick their wounds, they will vote Democrat because that is what they are after all.
You guys have some serious problems come Nov. It'll be an Obama landslide.
You must be smoking something I ain't! Good luck with your fantasy. This was an inspired by McCain!
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rightymouse Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:10:40pm |
All I can say in response to John Robert's ignorant comment about Palin is this:
Married women with special needs children go to work every day in this country. Many work long hours to help support their families. You obviously underestimate a woman's capacity to work and care for hearth and home too, let alone her ability to do so despite having a child with special needs. Also, she is married. She's not a single parent, so aren't you also underestimating her husband's role as a parent?
Stick to what you know best. Although I'm not sure what that is exactly.
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Semper Gumbi Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:10:54pm |
re: #339 marjoriemoon
Heyas Yoop!
That post captured it in a nutshell. I don't know what you guys have been reading, but this woman is NOT a choice that any Democrat would be happy with. Whatever she is or is not, she is a staunch religious conservative and that is not going to win over any Hillary supporters and quite frankly, any of the fence sitters.
Disagree. IMO, this pick may well bring in the Independent fence sitters, especially if the farleft continues to react the way they are now.
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katemaclaren Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:10:59pm |
re: #362 itellu3times
I think they may not get a French poodle. That would be perceived as elitist, no?
We can't have THAT, now can we?
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Archimedes Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:11:01pm |
re: #257 jwb7605
That's a KOS dog.
Mine does the "Yiii-yelp", then follows is up with a
snrrr ... snrrr ... garhagh garhagh SNAP.Recommended: be backed up five feet before the SNAP.
120 lbs ... see avatar.
Sheep dog?
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GeeWiz Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:11:15pm |
re: #351 livefreeor die
Please enlighten me as to the target of your "troll alert" post!
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Cartman Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:11:42pm |
re: #339 marjoriemoon
You guys have some serious problems come Nov. It'll be an Obama landslide.
Thank you for your brilliant *cough* analysis *cough* of the political landscape, as you fantasize envision it.
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jwb7605 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:11:47pm |
re: #321 livefreeor die
re: #319 callahan23re: #296 vagabond trader
Isn't poodle a French breed? What a very bad idea.
Sounds right for that candidate and his "foreign policy" views.
Poodles are also very iffy with kids. Some are great, some are downright nasty.
I really hate to do this, but no: they were originally German (pudle, means "water", or "puddle" dog). The French royal ladies got involved, and downsized the original (standard) model.
I had one when I was in high school: absolute finest dog I ever had.
Was descended from a winner of Wimbledon.
I got her for free because she had brown eyes, and couldn't be shown.
So I trained her to hunt pheasants, ducks, geese, quail, and squirrels.
I shot a pheasant once, and just winged it. The dog took off after the winged bird, and disappeared. Two hours later, she shows back up with a live wounded pheasant in her mouth.
68 lbs, I kept her in the "puppy" clip. Nothing fancy.
Pupsodent was her name. Kids of the family that owned the bitch named her that from a variation of the commercial "You'll wonder where the yellow went when you brush your teeth with Pepsodent". Changed the "e" to a "u" and it stuck.
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rawmuse Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:11:53pm |
re: #372 Thanos
I have never lived there, but I have visited many times, even in the winter. Of course, my observation must be tempered with the fact that I live in San Francisco, where lunacy is normal.
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katemaclaren Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:12:05pm |
re: #368 calcajun
Yeah but they rip the shit out of the French Poodles every few years and start bossing all the other neighborhood dogs around.
You guys are KILLING me tonight! That is so funny!
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cliffster Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:12:15pm |
Wow, response times back to normal again. Did we get bigger, stronger hamsters? Or did the post-convention post-palin-announcement frenzy just die down and load is manageable.
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katemaclaren Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:12:41pm |
re: #385 Cartman
Thank you for your brilliant *cough* analysis *cough* of the political landscape, as you
fantasizeenvision it.
Cartman, glad you fixed that!
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Piglet-U93 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:12:45pm |
re: #225 calcajun
... and they have not worked since the filming of the "Holy Grail".
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Thanos Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:13:00pm |
re: #387 rawmuse
I have never lived there, but I have visited many times, even in the winter. Of course, my observation must be tempered with the fact that I live in San Francisco, where lunacy is normal.
The state draws people with big dreams, and with that you do get some moonbats. Most of 'em can't hack it.
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katemaclaren Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:13:08pm |
re: #390 cliffster
Wow, response times back to normal again. Did we get bigger, stronger hamsters? Or did the post-convention post-palin-announcement frenzy just die down and load is manageable.
Viva Viagra!
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jcm Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:13:14pm |
re: #372 Thanos
The state actually attracts more than its fair share of moonbats, but they usually don't make it to a second winter before they skedaddle.
I remember all the "hill freaks" who came up during the seventies and built a cabin to get back to nature. Nature explained reality to them in the form of continual below zero weather and darkness, and they generally left pretty quickly.
There was that guy who starved to death in a abandoned school bus.
The the bear guy who became a bear entree.
Moonbats don't fair well in the real world.
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Geepers Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:13:18pm |
marjoriemoon (#339),
Presidential elections aren't won by Democrats or Republicans crossing sides, but by the middle leaning.
Palin appeals to all those "fly-over" hicks the Left patronizes.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:13:19pm |
Obama landslide, the guy whose ascent from Mt Obama has been upstaged by a typical bitter white woman with a gun and bible. muwahahahahahahahahahaha!
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itellu3times Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:13:32pm |
re: #380 katemaclaren
I think they may not get a French poodle. That would be perceived as elitist, no? We can't have THAT, now can we?
He should get a Freedom Poodle.
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hillbilly geek Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:13:42pm |
re: #366 Big Steve
BTW...been meaning to ask you being a teacher and all, have you ever heard of "subject-independent teaching skills". They were presenting something on this at the School Board meeting last week, in the area of elementary math classes. I acted all sage being a board member but didn't have a clue what it meant.
re: #366 Big Steve
Not a teacher, but it sounds like leftese for "common sense" t' me
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:13:53pm |
re: #366 Big Steve
BTW...been meaning to ask you being a teacher and all, have you ever heard of "subject-independent teaching skills". They were presenting something on this at the School Board meeting last week, in the area of elementary math classes. I acted all sage being a board member but didn't have a clue what it meant.
No, I haven't, but I'm an English teacher. Here's a book review you may find helpful: [Link: amte.sdsu.edu...]
I think the premise makes a lot of sense: elementary ed majors may not know the best way to teach the understanding of the concepts of math, even though they know how to do the math.
I make the same argument about teaching grammar because English ed majors (and English majors, for that matter) are not taught how to teach grammar any more.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:14:01pm |
re: #390 cliffster
Wow, response times back to normal again. Did we get bigger, stronger hamsters? Or did the post-convention post-palin-announcement frenzy just die down and load is manageable.
Just less than 3,000 online at the moment. (Check "Statistics" on left sidebar). It was up around 5,000 this morning.
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TMF Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:14:07pm |
Its all strategy
Knowing full well that Palin will bring potentially millions of moderate and right leaning women to the GOP ticket (who may have been leaning toward obama in this poisonous for the GOP environment), the left has only one option
Demonize her as a far right extremist nut job.
Its all in the Goebbels playbook. Chapter 8, I believe.
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Thanos Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:14:13pm |
KT: here's the Southern Poverty Law Center on one aspect of Joel's Army:
[Link: www.splcenter.org...]
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:14:21pm |
re: #397 vagabond trader
oops, descent, Freudian slip.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:14:27pm |
re: #392 Piglet-U93
... and they have not worked since the filming of the "Holy Grail".
Of course not, dammit. They retired on the residuals.
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jwb7605 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:14:48pm |
re: #381 Archimedes
Old English (actually northern Kansas, but ...)
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:14:51pm |
You know Michelle is so furious that McCain and Palin are getting all the attention now.
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callahan23 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:15:14pm |
re: #386 jwb7605
Sorry I stand corrected on this issue.
Thanks
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hillbilly geek Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:15:18pm |
re: #393 Thanos
The state draws people with big dreams, and with that you do get some moonbats. Most of 'em can't hack it.
Called survival of the fittest. Nature, red in tooth and claw.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:15:25pm |
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katemaclaren Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:15:55pm |
re: #386 jwb7605
Well, I GET the "puddle" bit--I've owned puppies! However, I thought dog in German was hund-or something like that.
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LeePro Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:16:00pm |
re: #317 goddessoftheclassroom
There is no such thing as a "stupid" cat. On the other hand, to call a canine a "stupid" dog is redundant...
Buckwheat: "Take that back!" (scroll down for more adorable, SMART dog!)
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:16:03pm |
re: #407 Typicalwhitey
You know Michelle is so furious that McCain and Palin are getting all the attention now.
That jaw of hers must be really tight right about now.
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Thanos Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:16:21pm |
re: #395 jcm
There was that guy who starved to death in a abandoned school bus.
The the bear guy who became a bear entree.
Moonbats don't fair well in the real world.
Yes a few do meet there fates that way... I personally knew two.
One guy was going to climb Mt Mckinley in January because none had done that before, he hiked out of Tommy's elbow room at closing time one morning to trek there and then climb. He was found a couple years later, or his bones were anyway, he didn't even make it to Nenana.
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Daryl Herbert Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:16:29pm |
I love this line from the rant:
Palin's links to "Feminists" For Life, a deceptive anti-abortion group
Golly, those pro-lifers are so deceptive. They confuse women by calling themselves "feminists," but they are secretly pro-life.
Deception at its worst! How could any woman possibly know that a group deceptively calling itself "feminists for life" is actually pro-life?
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rawmuse Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:17:13pm |
From the rawmuse reading circle:
Here is a book about the ladies who mined the Yukon Gold Rush miners.
It is non-fiction, written by a lady in Fairbanks.
I found it to be a ripping good read. Funny in places, tragic in others.
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Big Steve Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:17:34pm |
re: #400 goddessoftheclassroom
so if I read that post, which I did quickly I might add, it is the theory that just knowing how to teach something, anything, trumps actually knowing the subject, at least at the primary school level?
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cliffster Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:17:47pm |
re: #407 Typicalwhitey
You know Michelle is so furious that McCain and Palin are getting all the attention now.
Poor Michelle - as it turns out, nobody cares about her after all.
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loflyer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:18:01pm |
Russia's invasion of Georgia three weeks ago didn't help the democrats one bit. Obama has proved he is not up to the task. McCain would not hesitate to drop a carrier BG into the Black-sea and slug it out with Russians over the issue. We all know who would win. You just have to have the gonads to do it. Obama doesn't have what it takes, and a fracken' closet communist to boot!
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armywife Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:18:17pm |
re: #413 Bobblehead
I am imagining the stomping around screaming that the press isn't paying attention to the ONE and demanding someone do something, file a lawsuit or threaten kneecaps. SOMETHING.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:18:19pm |
I have to go for the evening.
{goddess}
MWAH!
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cliffster Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:18:40pm |
Dominionist, eh? So do we really want to bring up the ominous church association topic again?
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swamprat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:18:53pm |
re: #289 Typicalwhitey
I am not buying it. Not a word. I think the little drone made up every word out of whole cloth, or his Dad suffers from misogyny, and would react the same way to any female candidate, from any party. It sounds like he is posting for effect.
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jcm Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:19:04pm |
re: #402 TMF
Its all strategy
Knowing full well that Palin will bring potentially millions of moderate and right leaning women to the GOP ticket (who may have been leaning toward obama in this poisonous for the GOP environment), the left has only one option
Demonize her as a far right extremist nut job.
Its all in the Goebbels playbook. Chapter 8, I believe.
Or Alinsky:
Alinsky on means and ends
3) In war, the end justifies almost any means
8) The morality of a means depends upon whether the means is being employed at a time of imminent defeat or imminent victory
9) Any effective means is automatically judged by the opposition as being unethical
Tactics for radicals
5) Ridicule is man's most potent weapon
13) Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it
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HDrepub Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:19:16pm |
re: #206 Big Steve
I am imagining the KOS kids making that sound a dog makes when it is has been shot in the ass with a pellet gun...just don't know how to write that sound...someone help me out.
Sounds like you have been there, done that!
It sounds sort of like ark a ark ark ark ark.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:19:27pm |
Wonder if Governor Palin worries about paying for the kids piano lessons and the price of arugula.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:19:35pm |
Gotta run lizards. It's been a good day. Later and have a safe weekend.
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least Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:19:42pm |
Contrast Palin's CHOICE to deliver a full-term BABY -- even when she knew it had Down's Syndrome -- with Obamessiah's view that, if a woman CHOOSES to abort her BABY, she has a right to a dead child -- this is not a misstatement of his leftist-enhanced view, it is a fact.
Palin's world-view, that every life is a gift from God and must be deserving of life, prompted that CHOICE.
I predict that the attacks upon Palin, the church she goes to, the denomination the church is part of and anyone who believes in Jesus Christ are just beginning and will rapidly ratchet up in intensity.
Speaking as a Christian, I don't enjoy the uninformed spewing and raging of The KKos Kultists and their ilk (masochists might enjoy that sort of thing, normal folks don't), I know where the attacks are coming from.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:19:48pm |
re: #417 Big Steve
so if I read that post, which I did quickly I might add, it is the theory that just knowing how to teach something, anything, trumps actually knowing the subject, at least at the primary school level?
Yep.
Conversely, being brilliant at something doesn't necessarily mean a person can teach it.
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Big Steve Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:20:14pm |
re: #423 swamprat
I am not buying it. Not a word. I think the little drone made up every word out of whole cloth, or his Dad suffers from misogyny, and would react the same way to any female candidate, from any party. It sounds like he is posting for effect.
to balance, my wife, who had decided two weeks ago to vote Obama, has swung back to McCain today.
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jcm Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:20:17pm |
re: #416 rawmuse
From the rawmuse reading circle:
Here is a book about the ladies who mined the Yukon Gold Rush miners.
It is non-fiction, written by a lady in Fairbanks.
I found it to be a ripping good read. Funny in places, tragic in others.
Past three days in WA 2 rescues and 1 recovery. And WA is mild...
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loflyer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:20:44pm |
re: #427 calcajun
Gotta run lizards. It's been a good day. Later and have a safe weekend.
Later Dude. It's been a fun night!
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itellu3times Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:21:30pm |
Powerline is luke-warm so far about Palin, they need to read LGF!
Let me repeat something I heard on Rush today, berating some moonbat caller who wanted Rush to denounce Palin's inexperience the way he denounced 0bama's inexperience. Rush said something like:
But she can surround herself with experts and appointees who agree with her worldview and we'd have a great government, while if 0bama did that, we'd have a disaster.
Most intelligent thing I've heard out of Rush in a while, actually, I mean, that's really good.
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:22:10pm |
Obama's Bill Burton says about Palin:
“Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Governor Palin shares John McCain’s commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush’s failed economic policies — that’s not the change we need, it’s just more of the same.”
Talking points - tired, boring, empty talking points.
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katemaclaren Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:22:28pm |
re: #413 Bobblehead
That jaw of hers must be really tight right about now.
Her eyebrows arched into her hairline, too.
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GeeWiz Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:22:34pm |
re: #384 livefreeor die
Sorry, post #339 by marjoriemoon is not a troll but a dis-agreement of opinions. If one has a proclivity to condemn opposition as a troll, then free speech is in danger of being extinguished. JMHO!
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livefreeor die Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:22:53pm |
Gotta go too. I have to catch up on paperwork I let slide following the fun with LGF this week.
Of course, from what John Roberts at CNN said, I shouldn't worry-we little women aren't supposed to work after we have another baby so I'll have to scuttle my job after the newest member of our family comes along.
/
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Big Steve Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:23:24pm |
re: #429 goddessoftheclassroom
Yep.
Conversely, being brilliant at something doesn't necessarily mean a person can teach it.
so true but having both skills at teaching and knowing the subject is what really makes the grade. Also BTW we are having somewhat of a poaching war on teachers down in the Houston area and teacher salaries are really going up. Giving our board fits but to be honest, it is nice to see supply and demand economics giving teachers a hand.
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jwb7605 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:23:45pm |
re: #419 loflyer
Russia's invasion of Georgia three weeks ago didn't help the democrats one bit. Obama has proved he is not up to the task. McCain would not hesitate to drop a carrier BG into the Black-sea and slug it out with Russians over the issue. We all know who would win. You just have to have the gonads to do it. Obama doesn't have what it takes, and a fracken' closet communist to boot!
I (in my cloud 9 euphoria this morning), called my daughter-in-law, and asked her if she'd heard the pick. She hadn't, and didn't know anything about Palin.
Odd part is this girl (who lives in Camp Pendleton while my son is on deployment) indicated that the 'big fear' of McCain is that he might be too trigger happy, and we (meaning the USMC and Army) are already overdeployed.
This, coming from a Marine Wife, who's father is a Coast Guard Chief.
Something to ponder.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:23:48pm |
re: #437 livefreeor die
Gotta go too. I have to catch up on paperwork I let slide following the fun with LGF this week.
Of course, from what John Roberts at CNN said, I shouldn't worry-we little women aren't supposed to work after we have another baby so I'll have to scuttle my job after the newest member of our family comes along.
/
{livefreeor die}
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katemaclaren Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:24:14pm |
re: #422 cliffster
Dominionist, eh? So do we really want to bring up the ominous church association topic again?
I'm rubbing my hands together in anticipation...bring it onnn!
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:24:15pm |
re: #418 cliffster
Poor Michelle - as it turns out, nobody cares about her after all.
And after she fixed her hair and toned down her speech...she CHANGED and HOPED that no one would notice.
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Semper Gumbi Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:24:42pm |
re: #426 vagabond trader
Wonder if Governor Palin worries about paying for the kids piano lessons and the price of arugula.
No. In an article someone linked to earlier, they worry about getting the kids to soccer, basketball, and hockey.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:24:58pm |
re: #434 FrogMarch
You know, I love that she was mayor of a small town like mine. We have controlled spending, balanced budget, and our taxes have stayed pretty much the same for the 12 years we have lived here.None of the experienced DC insiders can boast those stats.
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:25:24pm |
Another diary:
Worst. VP. Pick. Ever (and how to destroy her)
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:25:39pm |
re: #438 Big Steve
so true but having both skills at teaching and knowing the subject is what really makes the grade. Also BTW we are having somewhat of a poaching war on teachers down in the Houston area and teacher salaries are really going up. Giving our board fits but to be honest, it is nice to see supply and demand economics giving teachers a hand.
Oh, absolutely! My annoyance is with those who thing at "anyone" can teach if he or she knows the subject.
OTOH, I believe that secondary teachers do need to be experts in their subject and should have, at the least, an undergraduate major in their subject area.
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Ojoe Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:25:48pm |
re: #21 godfrey
They're referring to Genesis. "Have dominion over the beasts and fishes," etc. As if that is ever taken to mean "the Ruination of Creation is legitimized by God."
Not far off the mark as an opinion of the "voluntary human extinction movement".
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Shug Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:26:32pm |
re: #445 Typicalwhitey
Another diary:
if she's the worst pick ever, why do they need to destroy her ?
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Big Steve Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:26:54pm |
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razorbacker Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:27:18pm |
As the Confederate Yankee observed...
Dick Cheney hunts small birds with a 28 gauge shotgun. Sarah Palin hunts moose. If she shots a lawyer in the face, he'll stay down.I am not advocating the shooting of lawyers in the face. It'd ruin the mount, anyway.
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RubyTuesday Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:27:30pm |
re: #400 goddessoftheclassroom Goddess, I am so in your corner. I would love to be able to teach grammar, usage, and writing. Teachers these days, not to mention many other professionals who should know how, cannot even USE proper English, much less teach it to others.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:27:48pm |
re: #355 Perry
Have to take both cats in the morning. The little one is fiesty and hard to get into her box. The big one-- we've decided we'll have to butter her to squish her into her box.
See if you can get your vet to show you what I call "the kitty stretch". Grab 'em by the scruff of the neck, and with the other hand grab their 2 back legs and if you do it right, the cat literally can not move.
(4 cats, we have to use the kitty stretch regularly).
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Archimedes Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:28:02pm |
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tokyobk Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:28:40pm |
Well I guess it was a good pick. Nobody is out reserving websites to put up Biden speeches to prove he is a bore.
I just hope she comes out swinging and with grace and intelligence takes a good fight to Biden in the debates.
If she can prove knowledgeable on the issues and also shoe biden as pompous dullard phony working class panderer to average Americans, it will not only be a McCain win but there will be both excitement and coattails.
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jcm Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:29:27pm |
Gotta run also.
The trouble with free elections is, you never know who is going to win.
Leonid Brezhnev
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armywife Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:29:36pm |
re: #439 jwb7605
Interesting. As an Army wife (shocker, I know), the one thing I WAS ok about with McCain is his empathy and support for the military. McCain's knowledge of the military would seem an asset in determining whether to put boots on the ground. If my husband was called upon again to deploy, I would be sad and I miss him terribly when he is gone, but that is his job.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:29:51pm |
re: #446 goddessoftheclassroom
Oh, absolutely! My annoyance is with those who thing at "anyone" can teach if he or she knows the subject.
OTOH, I believe that secondary teachers do need to be experts in their subject and should have, at the least, an undergraduate major in their subject area.
That is so untrue. I could know everything there is to know about a subject, but I cannot teach. I cannot do it. A friend once told me that my method of "teaching" is to go through it once, real fast, and then when somebody asks a question, do a heavy sigh and a "Well, WHY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?".
Nope. Not everyone can teach, to be a good teacher takes a very special gift.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:29:53pm |
re: #227 Sharmuta
It has about the same effect as a strong, intelligent conservative woman has.
Sharmuta -
Kinda, sorta, like KRYPTONITE?
-S-
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itellu3times Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:29:55pm |
re: #454 tokyobk
Well I guess it was a good pick. Nobody is out reserving websites to put up Biden speeches to prove he is a bore.
I just hope she comes out swinging and with grace and intelligence takes a good fight to Biden in the debates.
If she can prove knowledgeable on the issues and also shoe biden as pompous dullard phony working class panderer to average Americans, it will not only be a McCain win but there will be both excitement and coattails.
My first impression of her is that she is more intelligent than Biden, Obama - or McCain, for that matter.
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StinkHammer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:29:55pm |
re: #289 Typicalwhitey
When he found out where she was from he yelled "Alaska! Thats hardly even America!"
Anyplace that isn't Manhattan, Boston or Hollywood doesn't qualify as America to these twits.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:30:11pm |
re: #357 katemaclaren
I do not agree. It is, after all, Republicans who can be counted on to reliably vote when it looks like the other side is going to rush the polls.
Here is my take on it (early take, i'm still chewing). McCain and/or the RNC decided to go for the most conservative person they can find to shore up their religious base. They are saying it's under the guise to win over the Hillary dems or independents because of why? Because she's a woman? When it comes down to it, black, red, white, woman, man, it's going to be the politics that will win the day. This woman will definitely bring over any religious conservatives that McCain frightened away with his bipartisan politics and that's what the RNC wants. Because if something happens to him, they'll have the religious right in the White House. Well that's what is hoped for. But the country won't go for it.
You also have to remember that a lot of these polls are based on "likely voters". That would be folks that voted in the last election, 2004. Obama has energized 1000s of disenfranchised voters or folks that simply have not voted (good, bad, but that's how it is after all) and they can't be counted in those polls so I believe those polls are highly inaccurate.
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:30:21pm |
re: #395 jcm
There was that guy who starved to death in a abandoned school bus.
Moonbats don't fair well in the real world.
Going out into the woods without a map and compass? I don't even drive around town with out a map. Geez...
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:30:35pm |
Anyone heard from Realwest ? Wondering how he's doing today.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:31:24pm |
(yawning) It's been a very exhausting but wonderful first week of school. I'm toddling off to sleep. Take care, dear Lizards.
And if anyone reading this is a friend or relative of Gov. Palin, please tell her from me: YOU GO, GIRL!
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AnotherRightWingConspirator Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:32:00pm |
The libs reaction to the Palin pick reminds me of the way the fembots' heads exploded when Austin Powers demonstrated his mojo.
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nyc redneck Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:32:18pm |
well i love that she is a former beauty pageant winner, happily married w/ 5 children. she is conservative. she hunts, fishes, and loves her country.
she has more real experience than he does.
obama is whining because he is threatened by this woman.
he is a weakling compared to her.
he knows it. and he knows we know it.
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loflyer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:32:19pm |
re: #450 razorbacker
As the Confederate Yankee observed...
Dick Cheney hunts small birds with a 28 gauge shotgun. Sarah Palin hunts moose. If she shots a lawyer in the face, he'll stay down.I am not advocating the shooting of lawyers in the face. It'd ruin the mount, anyway.
I admire your spirit!
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:32:42pm |
John McCain needs to remind everyone that Obama wants to take this country in the wrong direction.
The Saul Alinsky direction.
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WayDownSouthInBama Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:32:47pm |
re: #454 tokyobk
I just hope she comes out swinging and with grace and intelligence
Grace and intelligence? Brilliant my friend,just simply brilliant! They'll never know what hit them.
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itellu3times Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:32:48pm |
re: #460 StinkHammer
When he found out where she was from he yelled "Alaska! Thats hardly even America!"Anyplace that isn't Manhattan, Boston or Hollywood doesn't qualify as America to these twits.
How did Alaska do in the Olympics?
/stolen joke from Leno, actually "Mo Rocca" who was interviewing a guy from Guam
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nyc redneck Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:33:59pm |
re: #407 Typicalwhitey
You know Michelle is so furious that McCain and Palin are getting all the attention now.
she is scowling so much she is frightening her own children.
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jwb7605 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:34:29pm |
re: #456 armywife
Interesting. As an Army wife (shocker, I know), the one thing I WAS ok about with McCain is his empathy and support for the military. McCain's knowledge of the military would seem an asset in determining whether to put boots on the ground. If my husband was called upon again to deploy, I would be sad and I miss him terribly when he is gone, but that is his job.
Shocker, in THIS forum? Hardly. You have my sympathy for what you get to deal with.
My daughter-in-law was NOT saying "don't send them" by any stretch of imagination. She was worried about numerical issues, and I got the impression it was more along the Rumsfeld theory of engagement mindset.
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kcladderman Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:35:18pm |
re: #463 Bobblehead
Anyone heard from Realwest ? Wondering how he's doing today.
He stopped by this morning. Said he was in a lot of pain and would not be on for a few days.
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Big Steve Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:35:25pm |
Well if the Goddess has signed off, that's it for me also...
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:35:33pm |
Y'all will get a kick out of this: I just got off the phone with my mom and she's furious over the Palin pick and swears she's going to vote for Obama. I think she'll eventually cool down but ya never know.
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neocon hippie Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:35:46pm |
OT:
LGF is still acting very strangely on Firefox 2 (XP). "Show top rated links" is still greyed out, and the ding up/down/view dingers functions have turned into links to the homepage. And the filters on the full-page Link Viewer don't work either.
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itellu3times Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:35:57pm |
re: #466 nyc redneck
well i love that she is a former beauty pageant winner, happily married w/ 5 children. she is conservative. she hunts, fishes, and loves her country.
she has more real experience than he does.
obama is whining because he is threatened by this woman.
he is a weakling compared to her.
he knows it. and he knows we know it.
Y'know, if we're all lucky and McCain serves four good years, Palin could be an outstanding VP ... and presidential candidate as early as 2012.
If she had to step in tomorrow as Potus, yeah, that might be dicey, but you realize, the cabinet and advisors and SCOTUS and joint chiefs and 7,000,000 federal bureaucrats still show up the next day, too.
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hooligan Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:36:06pm |
re: #262 Killgore Trout
Joel's Army
It's a theological term of interest to a small number of Christians---has to do with certain scriptural interpretations. Pretty obscure and not on the radar for most Evangelicals.
Now "Joe's Army", I think meets on weekends down on the deer lease...just kidding!
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WayDownSouthInBama Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:36:08pm |
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Cartman Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:36:19pm |
Oh, oh. I think there's a dominionist at my front door.
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StinkHammer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:37:05pm |
re: #475 Killgore Trout
Y'all will get a kick out of this: I just got off the phone with my mom and she's furious over the Palin pick and swears she's going to vote for Obama.
What's her problem?
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faraway Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:37:21pm |
Michael Moore just said on MSNBC that Gustav is "proof that there is a God in Heaven"
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:37:21pm |
re: #379 Semper Gumbi
Disagree. IMO, this pick may well bring in the Independent fence sitters, especially if the farleft continues to react the way they are now.
The far left doesn't represent the majority of the Democrats. They do make for good giggles with their antics, but every day, working class Dems do not hang their hats on a bunch of 20something wearing Che t-shirts.
I'm not completely comfortable with Obama. I was, I AM a Hillary dem (really more of a Leiberman dem), but he is our pick. Just as McCain is yours and the majority of you weren't so happy with that either. I do think the country needs a new direction, although I toyed with a McCain vote myself, but I'm afraid I'll be sticking with my party.
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itellu3times Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:37:24pm |
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CapeCoddah Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:37:28pm |
Good evening everyone. I see Kos is displaying it's usual level of class today, not surprised. What a great pick for VP. I think McCain won the election outright today, and with a term or two training, Governor Palin may make an excellent presidential hopeful.
On a lighter note, a friend sent me this commercial clip today, funny, and in no way related to politics.
I wonder if we could get Obama to make a speech by this lake should he go campaigning in Scotland.
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Semper Gumbi Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:37:36pm |
Somewhat OT: VDH's take on the selection of Governor Palin.
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Perry Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:37:50pm |
re: #452 reine.de.tout
See if you can get your vet to show you what I call "the kitty stretch". Grab 'em by the scruff of the neck, and with the other hand grab their 2 back legs and if you do it right, the cat literally can not move.
(4 cats, we have to use the kitty stretch regularly).
Oh, I can get them installed ok. The problem is the kids want to help. 50# kid hoisting an 18# protesting kitty--she can really spread out! I never should have mentioned to them that the vet trip was near. They've been so good about care & grooming lately. The cats actually wait for them now. It's been sweet to see.
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:37:52pm |
re: #475 Killgore Trout
Y'all will get a kick out of this: I just got off the phone with my mom and she's furious over the Palin pick and swears she's going to vote for Obama. I think she'll eventually cool down but ya never know.
Is your mom a democrat anyway?
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tokyobk Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:37:53pm |
re: #469 WayDownSouthInBama
Grace and intelligence? Brilliant my friend,just simply brilliant! They'll never know what hit them.
And, as everyone is saying; with authentic connection to real voting Americans.
Obama's law school classmates considered him the guy for whom regular work, such as researching case law, was beneath is destiny.
He has always been running for office so its not that he is out of touch because he is some secret Muslim, he is just never lived a real life because he has been runnning for president since he could walk.
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ArmyWife Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:37:53pm |
re: #472 jwb7605
Ok - I am sorry I misunderstood. I have discussed the over deployed theory, and to that I say "there is more than one way to skin a cat" (sorry, goddess). Supporting another nation in times of need doesn't always consist of our forces - we can ship weapons and teach THEM how to use them, for example. I have many, many more ideas along these lines.
Maybe I should send in my application for Sec. Def. Is there a link on the McCain website? ;)
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:38:41pm |
re: #482 faraway
Michael Moore just said on MSNBC that Gustav is "proof that there is a God in Heaven"
I'm pissed the democrats didn't make him the keynote speaker at the DNC convention.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:38:51pm |
Oh yea, I have a difference of opinion and haven't insulted anyone, but I'm a troll.
Open your mind and get a life.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:38:55pm |
Folks, sorry, I have reloaded/refreshed 3 times now, but I still can't get the new comments button to work, only thing to do is to post a comment where I have nothing, absolutely nothing at all to say.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:39:01pm |
re: #482 faraway
Michael Moore just said on MSNBC that Gustav is "proof that there is a God in Heaven"
Funny,,, I look at him and WONDER if there's a God !
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AnotherRightWingConspirator Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:39:20pm |
re: #475 Killgore Trout
I feel your pain. My parents stopped talking to me a couple of days ago after I sent them the link of the McCain ad where Biden trashed Barry's experience and the Hildebeast praised it.
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StinkHammer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:39:31pm |
re: #483 marjoriemoon
I do think the country needs a new direction.
This is a platitude. It tells me nothing about what you believe in.
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jharada Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:39:33pm |
ahhh, I see they are going to try and Revrend Wright, Palin.
I see what they did there.
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:39:55pm |
re: #471 nyc redneck
she is scowling so much she is frightening her own children.
I can see her stomping down the hallway with that strange manly way of walking that she has.
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gennyk Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:40:04pm |
"Obama landslide, the guy whose ascent from Mt Obama has been upstaged by a typical bitter white woman with a gun and bible. muwahahahahahahahahahaha!"
I love that McCain picked Sara Palin and I don't even like McCain. In one felled swoop, he rained on Obama's parade.
Take a visit over at the PUMA website and read what they have to say. They are so mad that the DMC screwed up by not putting Hillary on the ticket that they are writing checks for McCain and working for his campaign.
I have no doubt that Sara Palin can take on all comers handily, and now this ticket will be a winner. I'm trying my hardest to ignore the comments by the neanderthals that are saying she should be a good girl and stay home with the kids, especially her poor little newborn. The 'barefoot and pregnant' crowd is coming out of the woodwork and just illustrates again what Hillary was up against in her own party. It is time that women break the glass and I think Palin's the lady to do it. You GO girl!
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reine.de.tout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:40:04pm |
re: #487 Perry
Oh, I can get them installed ok. The problem is the kids want to help. 50# kid hoisting an 18# protesting kitty--she can really spread out! I never should have mentioned to them that the vet trip was near. They've been so good about care & grooming lately. The cats actually wait for them now. It's been sweet to see.
LOLOLOL! Yes, cats can really spread out, it's an amazing thing to see!
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:40:16pm |
re: #478 hooligan
It's a theological term of interest to a small number of Christians---has to do with certain scriptural interpretations. Pretty obscure and not on the radar for most Evangelicals.
Thanks. So she belongs to a goofy church. I'm an atheist so everybody belongs to a goofy church from where I'm sitting. Doesn't bother me unless they start turning up Jerimiah Wright type sermons.
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Defogger Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:40:24pm |
I am very pleased with this pick, and not at all surprised by the howls of protest from the left.
However, I do want to see how Palin does in a debate w/ Biden before I start placing any bets about Nov.
OTOH, she made pretty quick work of the corrupt, cynical establishment types in Alaska's government.
I'm not saying, of course, that Biden is a corrupt, cynical establishment type!
Oh wait . . .
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Cartman Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:40:37pm |
re: #482 faraway
Michael Moore just said on MSNBC that Gustav is "proof that there is a God in Heaven"
Moore wouldn't know about God if He smacked him upside his fat head, which He apparently already did, at birth.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:40:54pm |
re: #488 FrogMarch
Nope, she's a life long Republican. I don't think she's ever voted Dem in her life.
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:40:54pm |
re: #494 sattv4u2
Funny,,, I look at him and WONDER if there's a God !
He makes me believe in de-evolution.
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loflyer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:40:57pm |
re: #461 marjoriemoon
Here is my take on it (early take, i'm still chewing). McCain and/or the RNC decided to go for the most conservative person they can find to shore up their religious base. They are saying it's under the guise to win over the Hillary dems or independents because of why? Because she's a woman? When it comes down to it, black, red, white, woman, man, it's going to be the politics that will win the day. This woman will definitely bring over any religious conservatives that McCain frightened away with his bipartisan politics and that's what the RNC wants. Because if something happens to him, they'll have the religious right in the White House. Well that's what is hoped for. But the country won't go for it.
You also have to remember that a lot of these polls are based on "likely voters". That would be folks that voted in the last election, 2004. Obama has energized 1000s of disenfranchised voters or folks that simply have not voted (good, bad, but that's how it is after all) and they can't be counted in those polls so I believe those polls are highly inaccurate.
Yeah right, Most working Americans are unavailable for polls during working hours, when all the polls take place. As America has a really great unemployment rate (even with 10 million illegal immigrants sucking up jobs). That leaves only the five percent unemployed or off-job or on vacation to answer the poll. These polls are not truly Representative and as you truly believe in them you will be truly shocked in the November elections. I sympathize with your emotions, but you are out of touch with reality. I suggest a drug rehab program to assist in your entry into reality
/best of luck!
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GeeWiz Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:41:38pm |
Based on her positions, Sarah Palin is a solid choice for John McCain and I am excited about the GOP's chances come NOV.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:41:39pm |
re: #501 Killgore Trout
Thanks. So she belongs to a goofy church. I'm an atheist so everybody belongs to a goofy church from where I'm sitting. Doesn't bother me unless they start turning up Jerimiah Wright type sermons.
Or, get upset over stolen crackers.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:41:39pm |
re: #495 AnotherRightWingConspirator
Heh. I think my mom is bluffing.
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:42:03pm |
re: #504 Killgore Trout
Nope, she's a life long Republican. I don't think she's ever voted Dem in her life.
So did she tell you her problem with Palin?
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:42:05pm |
re: #476 neocon hippie
OT:
LGF is still acting very strangely on Firefox 2 (XP). "Show top rated links" is still greyed out, and the ding up/down/view dingers functions have turned into links to the homepage. And the filters on the full-page Link Viewer don't work either.
Neo -
U/G to FF3, from what I know, works OK on XP/SP2 per my confrere stil on XP.
-S-
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loflyer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:42:07pm |
re: #492 marjoriemoon
Oh yea, I have a difference of opinion and haven't insulted anyone, but I'm a troll.
Open your mind and get a life.
We were hoping the same from you...
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David IV of Georgia Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:42:13pm |
I have known quite a few Christian "Dominionists". Some want America to return to some "Christian Nation" golden age, some think they are trying to free the majority of Americans from the unwanted and oppressive dominance of a godless liberal elitist class, some just want to have a voice, some want an out and out theocracy run by the likes of Falwell, Robertson, Hinn, and Tilton. How far they take their views and how controlling they wish to be varies greatly. Most are fairly normal people who think liberalism has been given or has taken far too much of our culture over and as Christians, they first assume Christianity is the answer.
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shug Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:42:15pm |
re: #482 faraway
Michael Moore just said on MSNBC that Gustav is "proof that there is a God in Heaven"
God must hate haitians
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itellu3times Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:42:27pm |
re: #486 Semper Gumbi
He sez:
After the Victory Column, and a Greek temple, what can one expect from Obama during the Republican convention–Mt. Rushmore?
Good question. More body surfing, if he's smart. Take Biden along.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:42:56pm |
re: #508 reine.de.tout
Maybe I should steal their neopentocostal dominionist crackers to test them.
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:43:17pm |
re: #509 Killgore Trout
Heh. I think my mom is bluffing.
You better call her back just to make sure. We're a little curious and disturbed.
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shug Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:43:34pm |
re: #482 faraway
Michael Moore just said on MSNBC that Gustav is "proof that there is a God in Heaven"
When there are dead bodies washing up on shore, and people are left homeless next week, I hope people play this clip over and over and over
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AnotherRightWingConspirator Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:43:39pm |
re: #509 Killgore Trout
Good luck with yours, but not mine. She's got that ancient Sicilian thing going on.
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faraway Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:43:53pm |
Michael Moore is now saying that GOP is stupid to think that women will vote for her just because she's a woman.
Is he also saying blacks are stupid also when they vote 95% for Lord Obama?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:43:57pm |
re: #510 FrogMarch
Lack of experience and McCain's age was the big problem. She's also under the impression that Palin is a right wing wacko of some sort.
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StinkHammer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:44:17pm |
O'Reilly just showed a graphic from MSNBC News: "How many houses does Palin add to the Republican ticket?"
Not an opinion show, not a commentary show, but Breaking News from MSNBC
Fucking outrageous.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:44:20pm |
re: #492 marjoriemoon
What's the matter, things getting a bit too pathological over at Kos?
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RubyTuesday Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:44:21pm |
re: #457 reine.de.tout
Word!
Teaching is a calling. Many just do it, those who are called are the ones who are remembered later in life. Being a soldier is the same, I believe. And I am grateful for both. Even though I am a conservative, no way would I have attempted to home school my kids. Instead, I prayed for the teachers they had.
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Semper Gumbi Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:44:24pm |
re: #483 marjoriemoon
Okay. To each, his or her own. Everyone should make their voting decisions based on their own morals, values, and beliefs.
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shug Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:44:29pm |
re: #520 faraway
Is he also saying blacks are stupid also when they vote 95% for Lord Obama?
It goes without saying in democrat circles.
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swamprat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:44:31pm |
The dems attempts to scuttle Gov. Palin could very possibly enrage every working mother, every former working mother, every future working mother, every mother, father, boyfriend, girlfriend,husband, uncle, aunt, nephew, niece, counselor, boss, employee, pastor, and child of any and all working mothers to the point of absolutely ensuring the total victory of the Republican nominees. Way to go, dems in general and the fine kommentants at the Daily Kos! Go on guys; Attack the lady for keeping a Downs' Syndrome child... Please...Go on...please...We could use the votes. And America needs to see you guys for what you are...Go ahead, I have absolutely no doubt, that the leopard will reveal its spots.
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wrenchwench Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:45:05pm |
Michelle says she can't get Mr. Obama to pick up his socks. Mr. Palin does the cooking, pays the bills, and takes care of the kids.
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callahan23 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:45:06pm |
#500 reine.de.tout
LOLOLOL! Yes, cats can really spread out, it's an amazing thing to see!
From my avatar you can that I'm the proud owner of a maine-coon and they really can spread out!
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:45:07pm |
The Lyin' King from the Comedy Channel via Hot Air. LMAO The circle of life.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:45:14pm |
re: #396 Geepers
marjoriemoon (#339),
Presidential elections aren't won by Democrats or Republicans crossing sides, but by the middle leaning.
Palin appeals to all those "fly-over" hicks the Left patronizes.
I'm not sure I understand your last sentence, but you're right about the other. But this election is very different with many more undecided than ever before. If they were DECIDED, they would have picked one or the other. I can't see those in the middle feeling comfy with McCain's choice.
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ArmyWife Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:45:16pm |
Maybe I should get ArmyHusband to call his lunatic left mother and see what her thoughts are, what with being a bra buring feminist and all. As she is a dem politician, I am a bit curious about her stance. She loves me.
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:45:33pm |
re: #482 faraway
Michael Moore just said on MSNBC that Gustav is "proof that there is a God in Heaven"
Do you mean to tell me that he hasn't moved to Cuba/Russia/China/Canada yet? He's so full of himself and hating on republicans, you'd think he have MOVED by now.
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Typicalwhitey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:46:07pm |
re: #483 marjoriemoon
Can you tell me why you feel Obama will be able to change the direction of this country?
What has he accomplished since he has been in the Senate?
Why has his subcommittee, which oversees Afghanistan not held one meeting to fact find re: Afghanistan?
Why would you be comfortable voting for someone who would associate with a self admitted domestic terrorist?
Why would you be comfortable electing as President someone whose close friend and pastor said things such as "G.d damn America", the "US of KKK" and "Americans chickens are coming home to roost" when referencing 9/11?
Can you name ONE instance, just ONE where Obama worked with Republicans and Democrats on a bill in the Senate.
Just one would do.
Thank you.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:46:24pm |
Hot Air headlines...
Vatican warns of growing "Christianophobia"
"Christianophobia" is a growing problem around the world and it must be fought with the same determination as anti-Semitism or Islamophobia, the Vatican said on Friday.
Not everybody can be a victim at the same time. It doesn't work that way.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:46:38pm |
re: #169 Typicalwhitey
They are calling her a "token", saying she is covering for her daughter with the baby, calling her husband the "shadow governor", the only quotes kos uses are from msnbc, mocking her down syndrome son, and many diaries saying that their diehard republican brother/mother/father/sister etc have announced that they will not vote for Senator McCain now because of her.
LMAO
If they weren't so predictable, the political internet would be only half as much fun.
Dear lefties,
If you want "progress", how about some progress in your bullshit? I shouldn't be able to call your shots a week ahead of time.
Yours in Christ with nacho cheese,
- A guy who won't vote Democrat until Democrats stop being nasty assholes.
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ciaospirit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:46:40pm |
Striking contrast:
At Obama's event, they chanted "O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma".
At McCain's event, they chanted "USA, USA, USA".
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:46:56pm |
I have been out all day and this is the first chance to look online at the reception of Palin.
But overheard an exchange at lunch that sums up some first impressions:
Obama Supporter: "Well she is no Joe Biden."
McCain Supporter: "And Biden is no MILF."
/Complete body slam.
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David IV of Georgia Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:47:08pm |
re: #520 faraway
Michael Moore is now saying that GOP is stupid to think that women will vote for her just because she's a woman.
Is he also saying blacks are stupid also when they vote 95% for Lord Obama?
Racist? Sexist? Racist? Sexist? Racist? Sexist?
Why does politics have to be so confusing?
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esch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:47:13pm |
So I got a call from my mom this morning (old-school hippie/feminist). Lately she's been leaning more and more right, though.
First words out of her mouth: "We're screwed". I'm ashamed to say I laughed in her ear.
I've been hearing for MY ENTIRE LIFE about how screwed women have been historically. Now I get to turn the tables. I'll have her voting for McCain/Palin by Nov.
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:47:27pm |
re: #522 StinkHammer
O'Reilly just showed a graphic from MSNBC News: "How many houses does Palin add to the Republican ticket?"
Not an opinion show, not a commentary show, but Breaking News from MSNBC
Fucking outrageous.
The mask hasn't slipped - it's on the floor smashed into tiny bits.
MS-DNC
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Archimedes Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:48:00pm |
re: #490 ArmyWife
Ok - I am sorry I misunderstood. I have discussed the over deployed theory, and to that I say "there is more than one way to skin a cat" (sorry, goddess). Supporting another nation in times of need doesn't always consist of our forces - we can ship weapons and teach THEM how to use them, for example. I have many, many more ideas along these lines.
Maybe I should send in my application for Sec. Def. Is there a link on the McCain website? ;)
I wonder if it'll be Rudy Guiliani
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shug Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:48:04pm |
Just went to several websites.
Front page stories on Foxnews and CNN are Palin
MSNBC NBC news and ABC news : no mention of palin.
KATRINA II
ABS news is the worst
Top Headlines
Top Story: Katrina Part II? Gustav Heads for Gulf Coast as Hurricane
PHOTOS: Remembering Hurricane Katrina
Palin Could Be Deposed in State Probe
Obama Begins Battleground State Tour
Planes Nearly Collide Over the Caribbean
Mom of Missing Fla. Girl Won't Return to Jail
Keg Photo Leads to College Prez Resignation
Obama, Phelps: Single-Mom Sons Succeed
Hiyo! Ed McMahon's Home for Sale ...Again
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cliffster Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:48:51pm |
Shhh... wait! I think I hear Sarah Palin in my backyard, waiting to sneak in through my kids' windows and convert them to christianity while I watch the news! Going to get my shotgun, brb!
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tackle Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:49:00pm |
re: #239 livefreeor dieLadies, we still have a long way to go.
And thanks John for putting down all women who work and tend to disabled children. Very progressive of you. A**hole
As I mother to a child with special needs, I'll chime in. Let's see, how DO I do it? I work my ASS off, John. That's how. And so does my husband.
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So? Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:49:04pm |
Creationism and Kos kids aside, if something were to happen to McCain, would Palin be fit to be Commander in Chief?
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:49:12pm |
re: #536 Killgore Trout
Not everybody can be a victim at the same time. It doesn't work that way.
You must not be a registered Democrat.
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:49:24pm |
re: #541 esch
So I got a call from my mom this morning (old-school hippie/feminist). Lately she's been leaning more and more right, though.
First words out of her mouth: "We're screwed". I'm ashamed to say I laughed in her ear.
I've been hearing for MY ENTIRE LIFE about how screwed women have been historically. Now I get to turn the tables. I'll have her voting for McCain/Palin by Nov.
Did she say "We're screwed" - as in - Obama is screwed or McCain is screwed?
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Biff Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:49:37pm |
Has it been discussed that Palin represents the only state that shares a border with Russia? It seems to me that just the day to day issues coming before the Governor of Illinois regarding the Russian border, whether from ICE, the Coast Guard, USAF, DofCommerce, wherever, far outweigh the minimal experience of Obama's absentee adventure in the US Senate.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:49:37pm |
re: #513 David IV of Georgia
"Dave IV" -
Christianity is generally a good answer for many people. By heritage I am a Jew. By choice, I am Haredi - albeit with occasional dietary cheats. Going back to "the day" - my conception of Christianity is "SAME UNION, DIFFERENT LOCAL."
-S-
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Outrider Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:49:37pm |
re: #456 armywife
Interesting. As an Army wife (shocker, I know), the one thing I WAS ok about with McCain is his empathy and support for the military. McCain's knowledge of the military would seem an asset in determining whether to put boots on the ground. If my husband was called upon again to deploy, I would be sad and I miss him terribly when he is gone, but that is his job.
It's a valid subject. But we do live in dangerous times. Not using the military when they are needed because of warm and fuzzy feelings won't make the issues go away.
You got a tough job. Good luck-
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faraway Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:49:37pm |
Everything the Dems say about Palin is a trap for them.
- experience (more than Obama)
- abortion (Downs child)
- foreign policy (son in Army)
- change (she actually changed something)
Dems have been flailing about all day trying to overcome these traps without success.
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StinkHammer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:49:44pm |
re: #532 marjoriemoon
I can't see those in the middle feeling comfy with McCain's choice.
Why would you think that?
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shug Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:50:18pm |
re: #547 So?
is anybody qualified to be president?
The only person really qualified to be president is Dick Cheney, and all the former Presidents ( except Carter )
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:50:34pm |
re: #541 esch
So I got a call from my mom this morning (old-school hippie/feminist). Lately she's been leaning more and more right, though.
First words out of her mouth: "We're screwed". I'm ashamed to say I laughed in her ear.
I've been hearing for MY ENTIRE LIFE about how screwed women have been historically. Now I get to turn the tables. I'll have her voting for McCain/Palin by Nov.
ROFLMAO! Dear heavens that is funny beyond all belief.
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nyc redneck Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:50:46pm |
re: #477 itellu3times
Y'know, if we're all lucky and McCain serves four good years, Palin could be an outstanding VP ... and presidential candidate as early as 2012.
If she had to step in tomorrow as Potus, yeah, that might be dicey, but you realize, the cabinet and advisors and SCOTUS and joint chiefs and 7,000,000 federal bureaucrats still show up the next day, too.
isn't it amazing how the left is willing to elect such an america hating dork as obama.
he brings nothing to the office but his platitudes and bogus rhetoric.
no experience at all.
most americans would much rather have a woman like sarah palin covering their backs than a pencil neck coward like b.o.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:50:53pm |
re: #538 ciaospirit
Striking contrast:
At Obama's event, they chanted "O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma".
At McCain's event, they chanted "USA, USA, USA".
"ciao" -
In your own way - YOU GOT THE PROGRAM.
-S-
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So? Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:50:56pm |
re: #556 shug
is anybody qualified to be president?
The only person really qualified to be president is Dick Cheney, and all the former Presidents ( except Carter )
that wasn't my question...
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WayDownSouthInBama Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:51:00pm |
re: #529 wrenchwench
Michelle says she can't get Mr. Obama to pick up his socks. Mr. Palin does the cooking, pays the bills, and takes care of the kids.
Heck,I would too! Don't argue with women who are unafraid to touch off a .338 Winchester Mag!
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:51:05pm |
re: #521 Killgore Trout
aha. Hmmm - must be that crazy church she goes to. ;-)
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:51:09pm |
re: #496 StinkHammer
This is a platitude. It tells me nothing about what you believe in.
These things are the differences between Dem and Rep domestic policies. The economy, civil rights, social rights, taxes, education, etc. For these things I support the Dems. For foreign policy, I swung a hard right, but honestly, I've been very dissullioned by Bush's foreign policy. He did some smart things, I support the war in Iraq, but I don't like what he's done with Israel (my major foreign policy concern) and though an Obama presidency does worry me greatly where that is concerned, I think he'll do at least as good a job as Bush. Why? Because the Congress, Dem or Rep who always votes in favor of Israel (90% of the time), won't let him do otherwise.
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shug Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:51:20pm |
re: #561 So?
I think she is as qualified as anybody who is being considered for the job
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itellu3times Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:51:21pm |
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Perry Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:51:28pm |
re: #529 wrenchwench
Michelle says she can't get Mr. Obama to pick up his socks. Mr. Palin does the cooking, pays the bills, and takes care of the kids.
Mr. Palin sounds like a good husband and father. I hear they call him "First Dude" in Alaska.
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faraway Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:51:37pm |
re: #547 So?
Creationism and Kos kids aside, if something were to happen to McCain, would Palin be fit to be Commander in Chief?
Let's first ask this about the top pick, Obama, before we start worrying about the #2 pick.
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Piglet-U93 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:51:40pm |
re: #486 Semper Gumbi
Somewhat OT: VDH's take on the selection of Governor Palin.
VDH kudos to McCain and nails Obama to the wall.
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So? Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:51:45pm |
If you think women will vote for Palin, cause she's a woman, you're wrong.
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NTropy Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:51:52pm |
Knowing she's part of the AG couldn't be more pleasing to me.
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:52:01pm |
re: #547 So?
Creationism and Kos kids aside, if something were to happen to McCain, would Palin be fit to be Commander in Chief?
She would be more fit to be Commander in Chief than Obama would on his finest day.
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godfrey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:52:16pm |
re: #547 So?
Would Palin be fit to be CinC?
Not the right question.
Would she be fitter to be CinC than Obama?
Definitely yes.
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rhymeswithright Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:52:16pm |
Is it just me, or does it look like the KOSsacks are attempting to establish a religious test for public office?
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StinkHammer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:52:17pm |
re: #542 FrogMarch
The mask hasn't slipped - it's on the floor smashed into tiny bits. MS-DNC
I'm not an O'Reilly fan in the least, but he was absolutely LIVID over the MSNBC graphic -- so, good on him.
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:52:29pm |
re: #547 So?
Creationism and Kos kids aside, if something were to happen to McCain, would Palin be fit to be Commander in Chief?
As Lindsey Graham pinted out, Palin stands out as someone who has done the conservative thing rather than make speeches and then go weak once handed the keys.
Give her a few weeks and you will want her on the top of the ticket.
She is the future of the party.
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rightymouse Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:52:37pm |
Palin is apparently a hit at the Clinton forum.
Very interesting.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:52:39pm |
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:52:49pm |
re: #538 ciaospirit
Striking contrast:
At Obama's event, they chanted "O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma".
At McCain's event, they chanted "USA, USA, USA".
At Nuremberg Rallies they Hailed Hitler.
Socialism as usual.
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loflyer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:52:55pm |
re: #532 marjoriemoon
I'm not sure I understand your last sentence, but you're right about the other. But this election is very different with many more undecided than ever before. If they were DECIDED, they would have picked one or the other. I can't see those in the middle feeling comfy with McCain's choice.
Really? I am a conservative libertarian and feel totally comfortable with McCain's choice. Face it, the Democrats and MSM are in total disarray and the MSM is slowly self-destructing with their democrat propaganda that even a child can recognize with the issue, they just don't realize it yet. The MSM is literally driving a stake into their heart over this campaign. The American MSM will be destroyed if they continue there present course.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:53:03pm |
re: #436 GeeWiz
Sorry, post #339 by marjoriemoon is not a troll but a dis-agreement of opinions. If one has a proclivity to condemn opposition as a troll, then free speech is in danger of being extinguished. JMHO!
Thank you :)
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NTropy Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:53:14pm |
re: #570 So?
If you think women will vote for Palin, cause she's a woman, you're wrong.
Are you the spokesperson for femininity or just those you know personally?
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:53:16pm |
re: #547 So?
Creationism and Kos kids aside, if something were to happen to McCain, would Palin be fit to be Commander in Chief?
I had this discussion with a co-worker. I believe that she and McCain are fully prepared for this and they know what can happen. She is going to be Prepared for it.
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TMF Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:53:32pm |
If you think blacks will vote for Obama b/c hes black- your wrong.
Oh wait- 98% of blacks voted for Obama.
Never mind
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:53:39pm |
One other thing - Palin actually has more executive experience than Obama.
An indisputable fact.
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Defogger Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:53:52pm |
re: #532 marjoriemoon
I can't see those in the middle feeling comfy with McCain's choice.
You are wrong. The majority of Americans ARE conservative, and they like straight talk. Not all, but most in the middle will swing McCain's way. The evidence is already beginning to build.
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Biff Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:53:57pm |
re: #566 itellu3times
I think Palin is one sharp cookie. She'd be the first Trumanesque President since Harry. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen; and the buck stops here.
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rawmuse Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:54:46pm |
re: #583 marjoriemoon
Marge is a reasonable person, as I hope we all can be.
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So? Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:54:53pm |
re: #568 faraway
Let's first ask this about the top pick, Obama, before we start worrying about the #2 pick.
Obama ran against a number of Democrats to win the nomination. Why? How? Beats me. But she was just hand-picked for some agenda. Whatever, don't you think Romney would have been a better pick?
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CIA Reject Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:54:55pm |
re: #543 Archimedes
I wonder if it'll be Rudy Guiliani
I think Rudy will get the nod for Attorney General.
I'm not so sure about who he'd put up for SecDef. Maybe Joe Lieberman?
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TMF Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:54:58pm |
I actually do think women will vote for Palin b/c she is a woman. AND because shes not a living-with-her-head-up-her-ass, bitter, resentful closet America hater like Michelle Obama
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StinkHammer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:55:13pm |
re: #564 marjoriemoon
I don't like what he's done with Israel (my major foreign policy concern) and though an Obama presidency does worry me greatly where that is concerned, I think he'll do at least as good a job as Bush. Why? Because the Congress, Dem or Rep who always votes in favor of Israel (90% of the time), won't let him do otherwise.
What's your problem with Israel?
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:55:16pm |
re: #547 So?
Creationism and Kos kids aside, if something were to happen to McCain, would Palin be fit to be Commander in Chief?
Everyone is assuming McCain is going to drop dead any minute now.
Yes - if she is fit to be Governor she is fit to lead a nation.
What experience does a first time senator have?
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:55:27pm |
re: #586 TMF
If you think blacks will vote for Obama b/c hes black- your wrong.
Oh wait- 98% of blacks voted for Obama.
Never mind
No, 98% of blacks who voted in the Dem primaries voted for Obama. There are quite some few Republican and Independent blacks who did not vote in the Dem primaries.
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So? Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:55:37pm |
re: #572 galloping granny
She would be more fit to be Commander in Chief than Obama would on his finest day.
Yeah, by what standards, being a mayor or shooting moose?
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faraway Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:55:39pm |
So?, you are just as stupid as the other Dems that have so easily walked into the "experience" trap. She wins the argument compared to Obama and makes Obama look bad.
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callahan23 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:55:58pm |
re: #555 Perry
re: #530 callahan23
Gorgeous cat!
Thanks!
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Pawn of the Oppressor Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:56:08pm |
re: #482 faraway
Michael Moore just said on MSNBC that Gustav is "proof that there is a God in Heaven"
I wish somebody would hang that miserable fat son of a bitch from a yardarm.
/Michael Moore, get off my planet.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:56:19pm |
re: #479 WayDownSouthInBama
Really now? Explain two terms for Bush then.
The first was stolen. The second we had Kerry.
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nyc redneck Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:56:31pm |
re: #498 Typicalwhitey
I can see her stomping down the hallway with that strange manly way of walking that she has.
that frowning distorted face of hers is really is scary. you can see and feel the rage and anger she has. how do you just turn that off?
i can't imagine a peaceful moment in that household.
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hooligan Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:56:38pm |
re: #501 Killgore Trout
You will NEVER hear "God damn America" in any Penecostal church. ESPECIALLY from the pulpit.
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Semper Gumbi Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:56:57pm |
re: #532 marjoriemoon
I'm not sure I understand your last sentence, but you're right about the other. But this election is very different with many more undecided than ever before. If they were DECIDED, they would have picked one or the other. I can't see those in the middle feeling comfy with McCain's choice.
I think you are wrong. Her bio screams "the American dream", and IMO, this will appeal greatly to the middle.
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cliffster Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:57:01pm |
re: #570 So?
If you think women will vote for Palin, cause she's a woman, you're wrong.
That's a good point. If she was just any woman off the street, people probably wouldn't vote for her.
However, she isn't just some woman off the street. She has held several executive positions. She has led Alaskan government oversight committees for Oil/Gas production. And, she is the current governor of the largest state in the union, and one that gets a lot of focus because of the current focus on energy.
Because she was the winner of a beauty pageant, I feel ok saying, "Not just another pretty face".
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:57:01pm |
I think if folks simply take the "woman" thingh of the table and look at Palin as a politician and what she has actually done in Alaska, she walks the walk.
Give me another Republican governor who went against her Senate delegation and returned Federal money because it was pork (bridge toi nowhere).
Forget the whole woman angle - she is the real deal. A real conservative.
She is the American Maggie Thatcher.
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faraway Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:57:22pm |
re: #596 galloping granny
No, 98% of blacks who voted in the Dem primaries voted for Obama. There are quite some few Republican and Independent blacks who did not vote in the Dem primaries.
We are up to 7 or 8 now. Keep counting...
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ArmyWife Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:57:30pm |
re: #552 Outrider
Thank you. But I don't consider it a burden. I am incredibly lucky - I've said it before, but I'll repeat - after being married 18 years, I am still so in love with my husband. He is an incredible Daddy, he is a hopeless romantic (don't tell him I told you), he even saved kittens from a burning trailer. True story. We have defied odds; he was 18 and I was 19 when we got married. He says its because he is never home, so in reality we have only lived together 5 years. I say its because he wears a uniform. ;)
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Pawn of the Oppressor Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:57:32pm |
re: #573 taxfreekiller
Obama world class "O" hole.
tfk, most times I can't understand what you write, but this one is out of the park. I hope you don't mind if I steal it.
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So? Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:57:44pm |
re: #598 faraway
So?, you are just as stupid as the other Dems that have so easily walked into the "experience" trap. She wins the argument compared to Obama and makes Obama look bad.
Funny, all you heard from Republicans was Obama's lack of experience for the past 6 months, now you are defending it? What a f***king joke. The whole election is a joke. I'm outta here!
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NTropy Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:57:44pm |
re: #601 marjoriemoon
The first was stolen. The second we had Kerry.
Did you forget to close your /sarcasm tag?
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:57:55pm |
re: #591 So?
Obama ran against a number of Democrats to win the nomination. Why? How? Beats me. But she was just hand-picked for some agenda. Whatever, don't you think Romney would have been a better pick?
Biden didn't run against anyone to win the nomination as Obama's VP. He was hand picked to fit Obama's agenda.
As a matter of fact, no I do not think Romney wouldn't be better. I think he would be far worse.
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godfrey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:57:56pm |
She has more hours logged in an executive position than Obama and Biden combined.
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Archimedes Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:58:22pm |
re: #531 Bobblehead
The Lyin' King from the Comedy Channel via Hot Air. LMAO The circle of life.
Very Funny ... :D
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:58:34pm |
The old Bush stole the election line. Oh yeah, It's a troll.
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:58:55pm |
re: #602 nyc redneck
that frowning distorted face of hers is really is scary. you can see and feel the rage and anger she has. how do you just turn that off?
i can't imagine a peaceful moment in that household.
I can't imagine The Big ZERO cooking a decent cheeseburger.
(Never rush a cheeseburger.)
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tokyobk Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:59:05pm |
Dear McCain HQ;
Please, please make an ad using only people from towns with populations < 9,000.
A simple ad with the town name and population number in the lower left.
Americans of all sizes and colors;
"My name is John Doe, I live in North Bubbelawassee, I love my country and I am voting for John McCain."
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godfrey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:59:12pm |
re: #612 So?
The election isn't a joke, So. Do we have ideal choices? Far from it. Are we responsible for electing the best we can? Yes, and we will.
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:59:21pm |
re: #597 So?
Yeah, by what standards, being a mayor or shooting moose?
Why don't you tell me just what accomplishments of any kind that you find Obama to have that qualify him to be POTUS on any day.
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:59:23pm |
re: #601 marjoriemoon
The first was stolen. The second we had Kerry.
Wait, stolen? Okay, now it's time for troll spray.
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rawmuse Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:59:45pm |
re: #601 marjoriemoon
The first was stolen. The second we had Kerry.
The first was NOT stolen. If anyone tried to steal it, it was Algore, who specifically tried to have absentee ballots from overseas service men and women not counted.
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:59:50pm |
re: #616 Archimedes
Very Funny ... :D
My favorite line.."Every time he speaks an angel has an orgasm"
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Pawn of the Oppressor Fri, Aug 29, 2008 5:59:59pm |
re: #602 nyc redneck
that frowning distorted face of hers is really is scary. you can see and feel the rage and anger she has. how do you just turn that off?
i can't imagine a peaceful moment in that household.
For real entertainment, try covering the lower half of her face with your hand when she's on the tube.
Watch the eyes. Look at them. Look for happiness. Look for joy. You won't find any.
She's as dead inside as Hillary, if not worse. "Just plain mean", in her own words (Freudian projection is a default characteristic on her side of the aisle).
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razorbacker Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:00:11pm |
Frank J. remembers Obama's speech, and gets reaction to it.
Anyway, it was an important speech that everyone should be talking about for about five or six minutes until McCain's running mate pick dominates the news cycle. Of course, I didn't watch it; I was busy playing Pokemon on my DS. There's these berry trees in the game that could die if I don't water them once a day, and we Republicans are all about responsibility. Still, I rounded up the reactions of other people to Obama's speech for your convenience:
REACTIONS TO OBAMA'S SPEECH
Nancy Pelosi: "It drilled my brains!"
Harry Reid:"I wish I got applauded after speaking."
Tom Daschle: "Do you think he'll hire me? Target is working me like a slave-driver."
Joe Biden: "This was Obama at his most articulate. The speech was completely devoid of the ghetto slang we would expect from his kind."
John McCain: "I've heard more coherent things out of gooks I've strangled. They also were less negative about me."
Robert Byrd: "Holy crap, we just nominated a (censored)!"
Joe Lieberman: "They wouldn't let me in the building."
Keith Olbermann: "I had to change my pants twice during it."
William Ayers: "To know my good friend Obama may go in the White House almost makes me not want to blow it up."
Jeremiah Wright: "Bet the crackers ate that up."
Kos: "Blig awagga gerrrblah!"
Michael Moore: "After it, I was speechless and obese."
Chris Matthews: "The doctors found out that the tingle up my leg is nerve damage."
Hillary Clinton: "Enjoy your moment in the spotlight, wee child, but never think this is over."
Fred Thompson: "I've crapped better speeches."
Barack Obama: "It was the greatest speech ever given. It was like God Himself was speaking through me and then I realized: I'm God."
Paris Hilton: "It lacked substance."
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:00:23pm |
re: #612 So?
Funny, all you heard from Republicans was Obama's lack of experience for the past 6 months, now you are defending it? What a f***king joke. The whole election is a joke. I'm outta here!
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Maybe they have room for you up in Canada. Or some such.
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callahan23 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:00:28pm |
re: #594 StinkHammer
re: #564 marjoriemoon
I don't like what he's done with Israel (my major foreign policy concern) and though an Obama presidency does worry me greatly where that is concerned, I think he'll do at least as good a job as Bush. Why? Because the Congress, Dem or Rep who always votes in favor of Israel (90% of the time), won't let him do otherwise.What's your problem with Israel?
Yes, what's your friggin' problem with Izrael?
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cliffster Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:00:34pm |
re: #612 So?
Funny, all you heard from Republicans was Obama's lack of experience for the past 6 months, now you are defending it? What a f***king joke. The whole election is a joke. I'm outta here!
I haven't really been around here long enough to say this, but I'll say it anyways - don't let the door hit you in the...
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Biff Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:00:40pm |
Furthermore, what is really going to blow the Dems away is the fact that Sarah and Todd are WAY COOLER than Barack and Michelle. Not even close on any level. Sarah is an American Super Mom/Woman/Girl. She is the model. They are the model. And she gets things done. Something Barack has never shown an ability for except to promote himself.
Can't wait for the next set of polls.
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womball Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:00:50pm |
re: #415 Daryl Herbert
I love this line from the rant:
Palin's links to "Feminists" For Life, a deceptive anti-abortion group
Golly, those pro-lifers are so deceptive. They confuse women by calling themselves "feminists," but they are secretly pro-life.
Deception at its worst! How could any woman possibly know that a group deceptively calling itself "feminists for life" is actually pro-life?
Whoa nice Avatar! Have you played the remake of Final Fantasy 4?
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David IV of Georgia Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:01:09pm |
I don't think Gustav will be "Katrina II" because first, I think the mayor of New Orleans and the Governor of Louisiana have now figured out that certain conditions have to be met and some protocols must be followed to get federal aid—such as asking in a timely manner.
Second, I think that the federal government has realized that much of Louisiana is populated by "special" people and may just preemptively offer aid this time without bothering with protocols and conditions.
Thirdly, the actual failings in providing necessary aid and security after Katrina, once the federal government was asked for help, should have been resolved.
———————& #8212;—————— 8212;———
Have there been any secret jet flights into the storm? Our government has the power to influence a storm with the might of 200 atomic bombs with a few tiny jets, doesn't it?
———————& #8212;—————— 8212;———
If you live below sea level or just near the sea, why do you feel that I need to listen to you whine about storms and flooding? I've seen motor boats cruising through my yard; I've spent days pumping, mopping, bailing out my house, digging ditches and building levees. So?
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:01:25pm |
re: #482 faraway
Michael Moore just said on MSNBC that Gustav is "proof that there is a God in Heaven"
Notice - Michael Moore is on MSNBC. (MS-DNC)
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StinkHammer Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:01:56pm |
re: #601 marjoriemoon
The first [election] was stolen...
I was willing to engage you rationally until you trotted out that tired old trope.
/Gotta run now anyway.
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Archimedes Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:02:27pm |
re: #586 TMF
If you think blacks will vote for Obama b/c hes black- your wrong.
Oh wait- 98% of blacks voted for Obama.
Never mind
Maybe we should paint Obama white and McCain black. :D
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Wilderstad Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:02:27pm |
re: #627 galloping granny
Shh. Granny.we don't need him either. Anarctica is much better , wink, nudge.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:03:20pm |
Have to chuckle over the ageism stirred up by the Dems. McCain is well known to be energetic and healthy, cancer free, looks great, his mother is 96 and lucid. The Obama is a heavy smoker and having been an oncology nurse,I can assure you that 47 is not too young to develop a serious illness caused by tobacco. In fact I'd be very surprised if he didn't exhibit symptoms of emphysema.His mother died of cancer at a relatively young age. Why won't he release his medical records?
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Piglet-U93 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:04:03pm |
re: #556 shug
is anybody qualified to be president?
The only person really qualified to be president is Dick Cheney, and all the former Presidents ( except Carter )
ROTFLMAO
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Semper Gumbi Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:04:28pm |
re: #601 marjoriemoon
Dinged down for the "stolen" statement. The second, regarding Kerry, I wholeheartedly agree.
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godfrey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:04:34pm |
re: #639 Piglet-U93
You're right about Cheney. In a sane world, he'd be an obvious choice.
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WayDownSouthInBama Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:04:59pm |
re: #601 marjoriemoon
That lie was shot out of the water a LONG time ago.:
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A comprehensive study of the 2000 presidential election in Florida suggests that if the U.S. Supreme Court had allowed a statewide vote recount to proceed, Republican candidate George W. Bush would still have been elected president.
The National Opinion Research Center (NORC) at the University of Chicago conducted the six-month study for a consortium of eight news media companies, including CNN.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:05:18pm |
re: #619 tokyobk
Great idea, they can start with my little town.
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nyc redneck Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:05:54pm |
re: #638 vagabond trader
Have to chuckle over the ageism stirred up by the Dems. McCain is well known to be energetic and healthy, cancer free, looks great, his mother is 96 and lucid. The Obama is a heavy smoker and having been an oncology nurse,I can assure you that 47 is not too young to develop a serious illness caused by tobacco. In fact I'd be very surprised if he didn't exhibit symptoms of emphysema.His mother died of cancer at a relatively young age. Why won't he release his medical records?
excellent point (s).
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tokyobk Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:06:44pm |
re: #643 vagabond trader
Great idea, they can start with my little town.
The dig from the Obama campaign was just so stupid and out of touch, "let them eat cake" out of touch.
Actually, the Obama's are starting to remind me of transplanted royalty where they speak a different language than their "subjects."
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:07:31pm |
re: #601 marjoriemoon
The first was stolen. The second we had Kerry.
Oh hell - not this again.
The first election was almost stolen by a media who called Florida for Gore before the polls closed on the pan-handle.
The election was almost stolen by Gore when the Florida supreme court said - "sure Gore, just cherry pick the votes form the counties you want."
The Supreme court of the US had to correct that: Either count every county or stop with the bogus multi-recount with hanging chads - it's compromising the system.
anyway - after all was said and done -everything was re-counted and Bush actually increased his lead. A close election is not a stolen election. Unless you are a koolaide drinker.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:08:36pm |
re: #535 Typicalwhitey
Can you tell me why you feel Obama will be able to change the direction of this country?
What has he accomplished since he has been in the Senate?Why has his subcommittee, which oversees Afghanistan not held one meeting to fact find re: Afghanistan?
Why would you be comfortable voting for someone who would associate with a self admitted domestic terrorist?
Why would you be comfortable electing as President someone whose close friend and pastor said things such as "G.d damn America", the "US of KKK" and "Americans chickens are coming home to roost" when referencing 9/11?
Can you name ONE instance, just ONE where Obama worked with Republicans and Democrats on a bill in the Senate.
Just one would do.Thank you.
Like I say, I'm a Hillary dem and not proud of my party's pic, but I'm more unhappy with the Repubs pic. And I feel it's important to vote.
To me Obama is like JFK. Now don't have a hemorhage... what I mean by that, JFK really wasn't such a great president policy-wise, but his greatest triumphs was in uniting the country at a time when we were torn into shreds. I know that statement makes you all very unhappy and you think I'm crazed to say it, but I see it happening. If Obama can pick a good cabinet, we may have a chance. And whether you all agree or not, the country is suffering now economically.
Then again, he may be another Carter... (God forbid) I can't say, but it's what I see.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:09:31pm |
re: #644 nyc redneck
Thanks Red. Glad others noted that the black "Jackie Kennedy" has a very angry demeanor. I thought she looked like a lemon was stuffed in her mug while Hil and Bill spoke.Most definitely the power behind the throne.
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Piglet-U93 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:11:01pm |
re: #602 nyc redneck
that frowning distorted face of hers is really is scary. you can see and feel the rage and anger she has. how do you just turn that off?
i can't imagine a peaceful moment in that household.
Makes you wonder who is the boss in the family?
Maybe Barack is getting a Michelle lecture (treatment) for the entire week end?
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Semper Gumbi Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:11:15pm |
re: #612 So?
Funny, all you heard from Republicans was Obama's lack of experience for the past 6 months, now you are defending it? What a f***king joke. The whole election is a joke. I'm outta here!
Dude. Apparently, you don't get that there is a world of difference between experience at the top of the ticket and at the bottom. And besides, she has a lot more executive experience than Obama has. I have no doubt that, if unexpectedly thrust into the Presidency, she would surround herself with top notch advisers. I cannot say the same about Senator Obama.
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David IV of Georgia Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:11:45pm |
re: #551 Dr. Shalit
"Dave IV" -
Christianity is generally a good answer for many people. By heritage I am a Jew. By choice, I am Haredi - albeit with occasional dietary cheats. Going back to "the day" - my conception of Christianity is "SAME UNION, DIFFERENT LOCAL."
-S-
If it makes you feel better, I broke the fast today and had chicken and vodka. There are Christians that often feel the need to pray the facetious prayer, "Jesus, save me from your followers." Some "Christians" are idiots—dangerous idiots. If you are unable to tell us apart, it would be wise to be wary.
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:12:06pm |
re: #645 tokyobk
The dig from the Obama campaign was just so stupid and out of touch, "let them eat cake" out of touch.
Actually, the Obama's are starting to remind me of transplanted royalty where they speak a different language than their "subjects."
They also have repeatedly exhibted a marked tendency to shoot from the hip with both barrels before they take 30 seconds to even consider what they are doing. Obama clearly does not make good decisions. That is why he has to change his mind about so many of them.
Frankly, The One has become a dangerous laughing stock.
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Biff Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:12:58pm |
re: #614 galloping granny
I think Biden was picked as a counter to Mitt. They both had their strengths, they both appealed to similarly sized demographics. It was planned to be a wash, with Biden maybe scoring some points in the debate.
They never saw Palin coming. If Biden attacks her, she will come right back at him. He is screwed. If it is perceived that she wins a debate (which is quite possible), Biden and Obama will be doubly and tripley screwed. Even have the gals at PUMA seem to like her.
This is now such a mismatch. Obama picks a run-stuffing defensive linemen, and McCain comes at him with a triple threat rookie of the year. Palin has it all over Obama, who was supposed to be the star of the election. Biden will be ineffective and simply ignored, and McCain and Palin will pick off Obama all day long. This could be a route.
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:13:22pm |
re: #647 marjoriemoon
Big Oil
Saul Alinsky must win!
We need a change in Washington
there - I saved you some time with your party's bullshit talking points.
If Obama wins - many many folks who work for a living ,provide jobs etc will be packing up and leaving. I know I'm taking my money off the table.
Obama says he wont tax the shit out of everyone - but that's a lie.
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esch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:13:43pm |
re: #549 FrogMarch
She's a Dem.
I just talked to her a few minutes ago and started the conversion. She's still fuming.
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godfrey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:14:22pm |
re: #647 marjoriemoon
Marj, I love ya, you're calling it like you see it. The way I see it, the economy grew 3.3% last quarter. We're not in recession. The Eurozone is tipping into recession, and the dollar is strengthening. Palin has more executive hours logged than Obama and Biden combined. She has been a very effective executive, a reformer, in a tough state. McCain isn't going to ram through some hard-right agenda -- he's a cross-the-aisle guy, and you know it. Palin will be respected, and she'll gain even more executive experience. This is really good for America. Obama is not "uniting" America. He is providing it a sham, a celebrity mirage, and he will definitely smuggle through a very hard-left agenda. That's where he's from. I want to see more successful young black executives rise in our executive branch. We've seen more of them in GOP cabinets than Dem ones.
McCain and Palin will be good. Keep thinking it over.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:14:28pm |
re: #601 marjoriemoon
The first was stolen. The second we had Kerry.
Stolen? Uh, you have no grasp of the points of law that went into that election as well as the attempts to subvert the law by the Gore campaign. Gore lost every count and every trial. There was no theft--only the big lie that people like you keep echoing despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Get over it. It's done and in 4 months you won't have George Bush to blame for all the world's ills anymore.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:14:59pm |
re: #647 marjoriemoon
Yes, the most ethical Dems are so concerned with our "suffering" they adjourned Congress and hightailed it home without allowing discussion of the major cause of the "suffering." BTW, it was Kennedy and the other Demo-hawks of the 60s who dragged us into Vietnam.Bet you're also proud of that inconvenient truth, eh?
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razorbacker Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:15:07pm |
re: #647 marjoriemoon
To me Obama is like JFK. Now don't have a hemorhage... what I mean by that, JFK really wasn't such a great president policy-wise, but his greatest triumphs was in uniting the country at a time when we were torn into shreds. I know that statement makes you all very unhappy and you think I'm crazed to say it,
I'm not going to call you crazy. I'll just point out that you evidently weren't around during JFK's time. The country was not 'torn into shreds'. Although JFK actually did benefit from a stolen election. See Chigaco and the Daley Machine.
I think you've mistaken JFK's time with LBJ and years since.
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:15:10pm |
re: #647 marjoriemoon
Like I say, I'm a Hillary dem and not proud of my party's pic, but I'm more unhappy with the Repubs pic. And I feel it's important to vote.
To me Obama is like JFK. Now don't have a hemorhage... what I mean by that, JFK really wasn't such a great president policy-wise, but his greatest triumphs was in uniting the country at a time when we were torn into shreds. I know that statement makes you all very unhappy and you think I'm crazed to say it, but I see it happening. If Obama can pick a good cabinet, we may have a chance. And whether you all agree or not, the country is suffering now economically.
Then again, he may be another Carter... (God forbid) I can't say, but it's what I see.
Just a question, if you are a Hillary dem, why are you MORE unhappy with the Republicans pick? McCain is, well the most liberal Repub out at the moment and the conservative base had a very hard time warming up to him. Why does it make you unhappy about our pick if you are a democrat?
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Thanos Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:16:15pm |
re: #652 Semper Gumbi
Dude. Apparently, you don't get that there is a world of difference between experience at the top of the ticket and at the bottom. And besides, she has a lot more executive experience than Obama has. I have no doubt that, if unexpectedly thrust into the Presidency, she would surround herself with top notch advisers. I cannot say the same about Senator Obama.
I don't even worry about the advisors. Alaskans are generally better educated, more competent, and more capable than the average citizen. They have to be due to the environment, the boom and bust cycle of the economy up there, and the paucity of professionals and and experts in the state. Everyone has to be expert in multiple things just to get by. They are all jacks of many trades.
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zimriel Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:16:30pm |
re: #91 DesertSage
You're thinking Dominatrix. Most Kos Kiddies are into that.
And maybe some of us here too?
:')
Hey, if you gotta go BDSM, you could do worse...
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:16:40pm |
re: #582 loflyer
Really? I am a conservative libertarian and feel totally comfortable with McCain's choice. Face it, the Democrats and MSM are in total disarray and the MSM is slowly self-destructing with their democrat propaganda that even a child can recognize with the issue, they just don't realize it yet. The MSM is literally driving a stake into their heart over this campaign. The American MSM will be destroyed if they continue there present course.
Libertarians are pretty far right so I can understand your happiness.
My party has become a bunch of wimps which distresses me to no end. Maybe why I hang out here rather than KOS, but at my heart, I'm still a Democrat.
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:17:03pm |
re: #660 esch
She's a Dem.
I just talked to her a few minutes ago and started the conversion. She's still fuming.
So she feels like the dems are screwed. Lets hope so!
My first impression of Palin was the same. The Dems are screwed. I think that is why we are seeing this over-the-top dropping of the mask at all the major news outlets. The DNC media is collectively pissed and they want to lash out at her. How dare she steal Obama's holy progressive right to the throne of their carefully crafted kingdom.
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callahan23 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:17:04pm |
re: #661 godfrey
I agree one hundred percent!
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:17:43pm |
re: #590 rawmuse
Marge is a reasonable person, as I hope we all can be.
I can feel the love! ((muse))
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mailmars Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:18:43pm |
re: #547 So?
Creationism and Kos kids aside, if something were to happen to McCain, would Palin be fit to be Commander in Chief?
And the number 1 spot on the Dem ticket is ready? Are you guys sure you want to dwell on that point?
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:21:00pm |
re: #647 marjoriemoon
Like I say, I'm a Hillary dem and not proud of my party's pic, but I'm more unhappy with the Repubs pic. And I feel it's important to vote.
To me Obama is like JFK. Now don't have a hemorhage... what I mean by that, JFK really wasn't such a great president policy-wise, but his greatest triumphs was in uniting the country at a time when we were torn into shreds. I know that statement makes you all very unhappy and you think I'm crazed to say it, but I see it happening. If Obama can pick a good cabinet, we may have a chance. And whether you all agree or not, the country is suffering now economically.
Then again, he may be another Carter... (God forbid) I can't say, but it's what I see.
You've been drinking the koolaid Marjoriemoon. JFK did NOT unite our country when it was torn to shreds. I lived through that era. Martin Luther King gave his "I Have A Dream" speech on August 28, 1963. John F. Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963 - not quite three months later. The Civil Rights Amendment of 1964 was signed on July 2 of 1964 by Lyndon Baines Johnson. And that was when the real problems started. JFK handled none of those problems.
Obama is not qualified by any stretch of the imagination to be the President of the United States of America, not on even the most superficial basis.
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Cartman Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:21:02pm |
Talk of stolen elections does not constitute trolldom? Or at least a healthy dose of moonbattery? Oh, I forgot...this is the kinder, gentler LGF. Sheesh.
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rawmuse Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:21:31pm |
re: #671 marjoriemoon
I can feel the love! ((muse))
Except you really stepped in it about the 2000 stolen election. It is a fiction that you must jettison, dear.
/Don;t make me put on the kilt, dammit...
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Wendya Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:21:52pm |
re: #32 Bobblehead
Via Hot Air..check this one out. I know it's been said many times and many ways but those people are sick, sick, sick.
Classy bastards, aren't they?
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hooligan Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:21:53pm |
re: #647 marjoriemoon
I don't see any evidence, pre-election, of Obama uniting the country.
And I don't see any indication that he is the man that JFK was---flawed, but a striver and a leader.
The election of 1960 was incredibly close. JFK was successful post-election but Camelot has always been a complicated political story.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:22:22pm |
re: #674 Cartman
Just don't refer to the Obama as the... er, uh, um, never mind.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:23:47pm |
re: #594 StinkHammer
What's your problem with Israel?
None, I'm a Zionist. 3rd generation in fact!
There's a big list on my Bush disappontments with Israel. Probably at the top is money to the Palis. But as it seems that the "2 state solution" is the only solution available, I guess we have to go with that. In reality, they already have a state, 2 freakin states in fact! The problem is that the Palis cannot acknowledge it because if they accept it, they can't keep killing Jews and their hope to run us into the sea is gone.
The don't pick the cabinet until after someone is elected yes? I think the Sec of State for both parties would be an important thing to know in this regard.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:24:34pm |
re: #508 reine.de.tout
re: #501 Killgore TroutThanks. So she belongs to a goofy church. I'm an atheist so everybody belongs to a goofy church from where I'm sitting. Doesn't bother me unless they start turning up Jerimiah Wright type sermons.
Or, get upset over stolen crackers.
People not liking my response to Killgore. Guess I should have explained I'm one who got upset over the stolen cracker.
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Hard Right Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:25:41pm |
re: #612 So?
Funny, all you heard from Republicans was Obama's lack of experience for the past 6 months, now you are defending it? What a f***king joke. The whole election is a joke. I'm outta here!
Yes you are a joke. A pathetic one. Let me spell this out in small words so you might understand.
Obama wants to be President. The vast majority of his experience has been feeding at the public trough. His few "accomplishments" have been massive failures. If you think Obie is a better choice than even Palin, then I commend your crack supplier on the quality of his product.
Palin would be VP-NOT president. She has much more actual leadership experience. She has run her own companies in addition to her elected positions. Even though she will only be VP, she is still more qualified than Obie especially since she's far more in touch with the average American than the spoiled elitest Obie who's never had a real job.
Basically you're just mad because you know how this hurts the dem chances at winning the White House. The GOP did something your allegedly pro minority party did not. Stings eh?
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:25:51pm |
re: #606 Semper Gumbi
I think you are wrong. Her bio screams "the American dream", and IMO, this will appeal greatly to the middle.
Could be! We will see! I mentioned in the other thread, I may have to eat a lot of crow over my statements, but that's where I am presently.
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FrogMarch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:25:55pm |
re: #679 marjoriemoon
None, I'm a Zionist. 3rd generation in fact!
There's a big list on my Bush disappontments with Israel. Probably at the top is money to the Palis. But as it seems that the "2 state solution" is the only solution available, I guess we have to go with that. In reality, they already have a state, 2 freakin states in fact! The problem is that the Palis cannot acknowledge it because if they accept it, they can't keep killing Jews and their hope to run us into the sea is gone.
The don't pick the cabinet until after someone is elected yes? I think the Sec of State for both parties would be an important thing to know in this regard.
Are you insane? and you call yourself a Hillary Democrat. No other president in recent history has supported the Palis more the Bill Clinton. (not counting Carter) No-one glad-handed Arafat more than Bill Clinton - you know - Hillary's husband.
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godfrey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:26:10pm |
re: #679 marjoriemoon
Good question about likely Secs of State. Would Lieberman be good there? I'd like to see Bolton run around State with a blowtorch, just to clean it up, but then we'd need someone longer-term in there. Lugar?
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:27:18pm |
re: #613 NTropy
Did you forget to close your /sarcasm tag?
LOL no. I know that's a big contention with ya'll... the stolen thing. It is what it is and I've long gotten over it.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:28:16pm |
re: #679 marjoriemoon
How do you reconcile the Obama sitting in a church for nearly two decades listening to a preacher who referred to Israel as "that dirty word?" A preacher who reveres the Jew hating racist Louis Farrakhan.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:29:45pm |
re: #623 rawmuse
The first was NOT stolen. If anyone tried to steal it, it was Algore, who specifically tried to have absentee ballots from overseas service men and women not counted.
It's not a topic worth rehashing. I'm a Florida voter. I'm used to my vote not being counted. I vote anyway.
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Pullus Iulius Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:30:12pm |
I don't suppose I should be all that surprised about religious bigotry from the kossies. What surprises me is that my membership in the FCA back in high school evidently makes me a dominionist, too. I guess I've just been awaiting my orders all these years.
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Hard Right Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:31:12pm |
re: #687 marjoriemoon
It's not a topic worth rehashing. I'm a Florida voter. I'm used to my vote not being counted. I vote anyway.
The plastic blue cube goes in the square hole, not the round one. That's why your vote didn't count.
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NTropy Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:35:45pm |
re: #685 marjoriemoon
Well, I'll let it drop since you've taken it in the shorts from a number of others. I guess if it comforts you then you should continue clinging to the illusion. The fact that you're hanging out here and not with the Kossacks tells me there's something going on besides fever dreams.
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Hard Right Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:36:16pm |
re: #691 NTropy
Well, I'll let it drop since you've taken it in the shorts from a number of others. I guess if it comforts you then you should continue clinging to the illusion. The fact that you're hanging out here and not with the Kossacks tells me there's something going on besides fever dreams.
Political jungle fever?
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:38:00pm |
re: #661 godfrey
Marj, I love ya, you're calling it like you see it. The way I see it, the economy grew 3.3% last quarter. We're not in recession. The Eurozone is tipping into recession, and the dollar is strengthening. Palin has more executive hours logged than Obama and Biden combined. She has been a very effective executive, a reformer, in a tough state. McCain isn't going to ram through some hard-right agenda -- he's a cross-the-aisle guy, and you know it. Palin will be respected, and she'll gain even more executive experience. This is really good for America. Obama is not "uniting" America. He is providing it a sham, a celebrity mirage, and he will definitely smuggle through a very hard-left agenda. That's where he's from. I want to see more successful young black executives rise in our executive branch. We've seen more of them in GOP cabinets than Dem ones.
McCain and Palin will be good. Keep thinking it over.
Thanks Godfrey. It's hard to talk to you guys about domestic policies because we're so polarized and I usually avoid it here because I don't like being attacked.
I don't know if we're technically in a recession, but I know too many people are hurting and that is a reality. At the base, I think Dems have better domestic policies and we can argue them until the cows come home. I also don't think Obama is hard left. Kucinch is hard left. I would have preferred Hillary.
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:38:03pm |
re: #671 marjoriemoon
I can feel the love! ((muse))
You know marjoriemoon, there are a lot of people here who were once "democrats." I would conservatively guess an easy 1/3.
This is not about whether you are a dem or an independent or a republican. This is about how you feel about our nation.
I listened to Obama last night - and many other times. He, a black man that has benefited greatly from affirmative action, a many who has had the best education money can buy, who lives in a home worth nearly $2 million, does not like this country. We are mean, we are stingy, we have done nothing good. There is nothing he is proud of. His words are an endless litany of all the "bad" things that are wrong with our nation.
I haven't had Obama's benefits and I don't have his luxuries. I have literally sweat blood to raise my children, to educate myself, to keep a roof over our heads. I've done without insurance, food and sometimes even underwear. If anyone has a right to feel angry and bitter and complain about how bad things are, that would be me. But that is NOT my America.
I am proud of my country, I am proud that each of my four daughters has had better opportunities than I have had, I have the same hope for my country that my ancestors had in 1620 when they first set foot on these shores. I am blessed. My family is blessed.
I've always liked John McCain. He is a hero and he loves this country with every ounce of his being. John is honorable. Most importantly, he can be trusted to guard our nation's future.
Sarah Palin loves our country too. I don't agree with her about everything, but her love for our nation comes shining through. She is honest. Sarah Palin can be trusted.
Barrak Obama has proven over and over that his word his nothing. He is a liar. He does not choose good advisers now or make good choices now. What makes you think that he will improve after the job interview?
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NTropy Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:39:15pm |
re: #692 Hard Right
Nahh - Marjorie seems nice, just mistaken. Why be antagonistic? In the six years I've been commenting here I've seen way WAY worse than Marjoriemoon.
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Spirit93 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:41:43pm |
re: #461 marjoriemoon
Here is my take on it (early take, i'm still chewing). McCain and/or the RNC decided to go for the most conservative person they can find to shore up their religious base. They are saying it's under the guise to win over the Hillary dems or independents because of why? Because she's a woman? When it comes down to it, black, red, white, woman, man, it's going to be the politics that will win the day. This woman will definitely bring over any religious conservatives that McCain frightened away with his bipartisan politics and that's what the RNC wants. Because if something happens to him, they'll have the religious right in the White House. Well that's what is hoped for. But the country won't go for it.
You also have to remember that a lot of these polls are based on "likely voters". That would be folks that voted in the last election, 2004. Obama has energized 1000s of disenfranchised voters or folks that simply have not voted (good, bad, but that's how it is after all) and they can't be counted in those polls so I believe those polls are highly inaccurate.
As ABC News put it (I'm paraphrasing):
"Now, no matter who wins, this will be a historic elections because it means either an African American or a women elected to the executive office of the US"
McCain just stole Obama's thunder.
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Hard Right Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:43:01pm |
re: #695 NTropy
Nahh - Marjorie seems nice, just mistaken. Why be antagonistic? In the six years I've been commenting here I've seen way WAY worse than Marjoriemoon.
A little teasing of the moonbat, really. Sorry, but saying the election was stolen tells me she's not just mistaken.
However, I wouldn't call her a troll either.
BTW, the more / I type, the less serious I am.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:43:14pm |
re: #665 baxtrice
Just a question, if you are a Hillary dem, why are you MORE unhappy with the Republicans pick? McCain is, well the most liberal Repub out at the moment and the conservative base had a very hard time warming up to him. Why does it make you unhappy about our pick if you are a democrat?
I don't see what's so liberal about McCain. My mom's been an Arizona resident some 20 years and nothing I've ever heard about him makes me think he's a liberal. He has voted bipartisan and quite honestly, I'm happy about that. But you really can't call him a liberal anymore than you can call Hillary a conservative, and she votes bipartisan too.
But then again, I'm a Clinton lover (Oh I see you all cringing at your terminals). Bill was our Reagan after all :)
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NTropy Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:46:09pm |
re: #698 marjoriemoon
Bill was our Reagan after all :)
ACK! Blasphemy! Bill got lucky with a totally unforeseen explosion of the internet. He was a miserable failure on foreign policy. Comparing Clinton to Reagan is like comparing poop to platinum.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:47:06pm |
re: #673 galloping granny
You've been drinking the koolaid Marjoriemoon. JFK did NOT unite our country when it was torn to shreds. I lived through that era. Martin Luther King gave his "I Have A Dream" speech on August 28, 1963. John F. Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963 - not quite three months later. The Civil Rights Amendment of 1964 was signed on July 2 of 1964 by Lyndon Baines Johnson. And that was when the real problems started. JFK handled none of those problems.
Obama is not qualified by any stretch of the imagination to be the President of the United States of America, not on even the most superficial basis.
Well yes, that's true. I was born in 62. I guess what I meant is that Obama has that same unifying feeling during the same time in the 60's of great civil unrest and inequality (what I meant by torn to shreds). Real or not, it's how Obama is perceived by a WHOLE lot of people who are going to vote.
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:47:36pm |
re: #698 marjoriemoon
I don't see what's so liberal about McCain. My mom's been an Arizona resident some 20 years and nothing I've ever heard about him makes me think he's a liberal. He has voted bipartisan and quite honestly, I'm happy about that. But you really can't call him a liberal anymore than you can call Hillary a conservative, and she votes bipartisan too.
But then again, I'm a Clinton lover (Oh I see you all cringing at your terminals). Bill was our Reagan after all :)
Bill was not a Reagan. In 50 years what the history books will record about Bill Clinton is that he was one of two presidents who were impeached.
What makes John McCain a "liberal" - and he is not really - is that John makes decisions based on what he believes, on the ethics that he was raised with, on his sense of honor - even if that means that he goes against every single person in his own party.
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:48:37pm |
re: #693 marjoriemoon
I don't know if we're technically in a recession, but I know too many people are hurting and that is a reality. At the base, I think Dems have better domestic policies ...
Marjoriemoon, since your not answering my question, I just want to impart some wisdom on you::
In the midst of the Clinton Years and the "greatest economical policies EVAH" as referenced by our Media and by the Democrats, my family struggled. STRUGGLED. We went hungry, we barely had money to pay our bills, everything was handed down through the family and my parents worked several jobs. This all started because my father lost his job and my mother had to go back to work (she was a stay at home mother). They both worked 80 hours a week to pay for everything and never complained. I and my sister were latchkey children. My father tried to get unemployment and we were told that he MADE TOO MUCH MONEY (we barely scraped by).
The moral of the story is: People fall on hard times no matter what.
We made it and finally climbed out of the debt we were in, and we did it without government help.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:48:40pm |
re: #675 rawmuse
Except you really stepped in it about the 2000 stolen election. It is a fiction that you must jettison, dear.
/Don;t make me put on the kilt, dammit...
hehehe... I must be a masochist for typing that. It's ok, I still love ya. (and YES I want a kilt pic!)
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Hard Right Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:48:47pm |
re: #698 marjoriemoon
I don't see what's so liberal about McCain. My mom's been an Arizona resident some 20 years and nothing I've ever heard about him makes me think he's a liberal. He has voted bipartisan and quite honestly, I'm happy about that. But you really can't call him a liberal anymore than you can call Hillary a conservative, and she votes bipartisan too.
But then again, I'm a Clinton lover (Oh I see you all cringing at your terminals). Bill was our Reagan after all :)
If Bill was your Reagan, then the dem McCain is not quite a liberal, but has some rather liberal positions on critical issues. Now, a liberal saying they don't think McCain is a liberal is like Olberman calling Ted Kennedy a centrist.
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docremulac Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:50:06pm |
That's it? She goes to church?
George Soros should audit his hit men every once in a while.
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:51:29pm |
re: #700 marjoriemoon
Well yes, that's true. I was born in 62. I guess what I meant is that Obama has that same unifying feeling during the same time in the 60's of great civil unrest and inequality (what I meant by torn to shreds). Real or not, it's how Obama is perceived by a WHOLE lot of people who are going to vote.
A WHOLE lot of people who are going to vote perceive Barrak Hussein Obama as the worst thing that has happened to race relations in this country in more than 50 years. He has single-handedly undone every last thing that people of my generation of both colors died to achieve. He is not a unifier, he is a divider. He is a man who has every bit as many drops of white blood as he does black that dares to call the white grandmother who raised him a "typical white person." Barrack Obama is a racist. He will never get my vote and he will never be my president.
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Sylvester_T_Cat Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:51:34pm |
re: #597 So?
Yeah, by what standards, being a mayor or shooting moose?
Four successful years as mayor -- "successful" being, kept her campaign promises to lower taxes and get more use out of existing finances. Two successful years as governor, "successful" being, balancing the state budget, helping corrupt politicians read the 'Exit' sign, negotiating and signing the Gas Pipeline contract (probably going to be the largest ever construction contract in North America, btw), "supporting the troops" in deed as well as word, etc... The lady walks her talk.
As opposed to, say, Obama, who had a tiny bit of Annenberg Foundation experience, during which he and his buddy Bill Ayers spent something like 105 million on "educational improvement" projects that had absolutely zero effect on anything measurable for Chicago kids.
/Tough choice, eh? ;-)
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:51:48pm |
re: #698 marjoriemoon
I don't see what's so liberal about McCain. My mom's been an Arizona resident some 20 years and nothing I've ever heard about him makes me think he's a liberal. He has voted bipartisan and quite honestly, I'm happy about that. But you really can't call him a liberal anymore than you can call Hillary a conservative, and she votes bipartisan too.
But then again, I'm a Clinton lover (Oh I see you all cringing at your terminals). Bill was our Reagan after all :)
The Maverick: supported Cap & Trade.
- sort of buys into Global Warming/Climate Change.
- soft on illegal immigration.. and much much more!
If I go on, I may upset the others. Read up my friend. Knowledge is power. Educated thyself instead of just listening to the tired old mainstream media. It will knock your socks off!
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:52:36pm |
re: #683 FrogMarch
Are you insane? and you call yourself a Hillary Democrat. No other president in recent history has supported the Palis more the Bill Clinton. (not counting Carter) No-one glad-handed Arafat more than Bill Clinton - you know - Hillary's husband.
For the record, Israel was Clinton's huge failing. Fortunately, his grave mistake didn't really do her any harm and ironically, it was Arafat who saved the Jews. If he hadn't walked out of those meetings, we'd be in big shit now (if Israel would be there at all).
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Hard Right Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:52:42pm |
re: #704 Hard Right
If Bill was your Reagan your party has NO standards. McCain is not quite a liberal, but has some rather liberal positions on critical issues. Now, a liberal saying they don't think McCain is a liberal is like Olberman calling Ted Kennedy a centrist.
Fixed. BTW, 26 years as an Arizonan.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:53:37pm |
re: #574 godfrey
Would Palin be fit to be CinC?
Not the right question.
Would she be fitter to be CinC than Obama?
Definitely yes.
godfrey -
Gov. Palin IS the CinC of the Alaska National Guard - AND her son ships off to Iraq on 9/1/2008. Bet that "Mooseburger Sarah" knows a thing or three about the Military.
-S-
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:53:59pm |
re: #684 godfrey
Good question about likely Secs of State. Would Lieberman be good there? I'd like to see Bolton run around State with a blowtorch, just to clean it up, but then we'd need someone longer-term in there. Lugar?
Leiberman, hmmm... I would be happy with that. I'm not a Bolton fan. I know you guys are. Lugar I don't know...
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sheepdog Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:57:17pm |
Gov.poulin's got god to help her through , Kos kids have hate and lots of It...good luck with that hate thing Markos and crew...Godless Idiots !
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Pullus Iulius Fri, Aug 29, 2008 6:58:48pm |
re: #705 docremulac
According to the Protocols of Soros, belief in spiritual things is a thoughtcrime. Belief in BO's illusory peaceable kingdom, however? Another thing entirely, my friend.
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NTropy Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:00:54pm |
re: #693 marjoriemoon
I don't know if we're technically in a recession, but I know too many people are hurting and that is a reality. At the base, I think Dems have better domestic policies and we can argue them until the cows come home. I also don't think Obama is hard left. Kucinch is hard left. I would have preferred Hillary.
Dems have better domestic policies? I know it's not liked but we still have overseas military responsibilities. I know there has been a timetable bandied about by both the Bush administration and the Iraqis of sometime in 2011 for withdrawal of our troops. Obama wants it to be sooner. We still have responsibilities in Afghanistan. Combine that inheritance with the massive - MASSIVE - increase in governmental handouts proposed by Obama and I can't imagine how you can say the Dems have better domestic policies. Drastically increased taxes and disincentives for investment do not make for better domestic policy.
Obama is indeed hard left. The Washington Post has him as the #1 most liberal in 2006. Joe Biden was #3. As for Kucinich, well he's just plain Mad.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:00:55pm |
re: #686 vagabond trader
How do you reconcile the Obama sitting in a church for nearly two decades listening to a preacher who referred to Israel as "that dirty word?" A preacher who reveres the Jew hating racist Louis Farrakhan.
It's why he makes me uncomfortable, to say the least. Over the top pissed to say the most! But we don't elect Kings. We have a Congress and I can't see them putting Israel in harm's way, be it a Dem or Rep majority.
You know Nixon was an anti-Semite and there has been no greater friend to Israel since... putting our country or Israel's concerns above your own personal agenda is what we need as a President. So it's hard to say how much of Wright's influence will effect him. Like I say, it is troubling.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:01:25pm |
re: #647 marjoriemoon
what I mean by that, JFK really wasn't such a great president policy-wise, but his greatest triumphs was in uniting the country at a time when we were torn into shreds. I know that statement makes you all very unhappy and you think I'm crazed to say it, but I see it happening. If Obama can pick a good cabinet, we may have a chance. And whether you all agree or not, the country is suffering now economically.
Then again, he may be another Carter... (God forbid) I can't say, but it's what I see.
I won't call you any names as others have done. I challenge your historical references as there is no indication that the country was in shreds in 1960 as opposed to 1970 after LBJ's great society.
Yes, JFK was a great speaker. He was very eloquent. But had he lived, I do not know if he would have been re-elected.
I agree with you on the point regarding Obama and his cabinet, but he, as POTUS sets the agenda. He can be a hands-off manager like Bush (bad) or a micro-manager like Carter and Clinton (also bad). The question for both Obama and McCain is whether they will listen to other wise counsel-as well as the better angels of their nature.
I disagree with you assessment regarding our current economy. It is in a downturn, to be sure, but I remember 1973, 1979, 1991 and 1999. I grew up with stories from my Dad and Grandpa from the 1930--and we are no where near that. The question is what do we NEED to do. Keep in mind that there are some historians who now think that FDR deepened the Depression with his policies. Wisdom and restraint are needed.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:01:53pm |
re: #713 godfrey
Dr. S, thanks for that. You're right.
Godfrey -
Let's go one more round - This is the Political version of "My Fair Lady" - in which Prof. McCain ('iggins) has found an EXTREMELY TALENTED Ms. Dolittle (Palin). The Net Result might well be the American "Lady Thatcher."
'Nuff said?
-S-
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:02:29pm |
re: #689 godfrey
So let's play Pick the Cabinets, then.
I'll go with Leiberman! But Obama won't pick him. Maybe McCain.
I'm thinking Bill may get a spot, but I don't know where. Al Gore is going into some environmental spot I would think.
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kansas Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:03:00pm |
re: #693 marjoriemoonI don't know if we're technically in a recession, but I know too many people are hurting and that is a reality. At the base, I think Dems have better domestic policies and we can argue them until the cows come home. I also don't think Obama is hard left. Kucinch is hard left. I would have preferred Hillary.
Obviously with all the dough the dems spent on fireworks and parking jet airplanes we are not even close to a recession. Give me a break.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:03:15pm |
re: #709 marjoriemoon
Can't answer the "Jewish questions" I posed. You're no Zionist,and pushing fifty is waaay too old to be such a silly twit.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:04:58pm |
re: #721 marjoriemoon
Al Gore is going into some environmental spot I would think.
Isn't there an active volcano on Hawaii? Can't we put him there? It might make the gods happy.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:05:04pm |
re: #717 marjoriemoon
Obfuscating bullshit. You support an anti semite, get it?
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:05:16pm |
re: #691 NTropy
Well, I'll let it drop since you've taken it in the shorts from a number of others. I guess if it comforts you then you should continue clinging to the illusion. The fact that you're hanging out here and not with the Kossacks tells me there's something going on besides fever dreams.
I'm glad to have impressed you :) Don't get me wrong. I'm not jumping for joy over here. The beginning of this argument was about the Palin pick and from what I observe, she's not going to win over the fence sitters in the least. And not the Dems. I thought Romney would have been better for ya'll.
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Purple Prose Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:06:17pm |
If they felt now threat, they'd be complacent and sitting on their butts, at least for a news cycle. The vociferous response is a sign of their own insecurity. They know that despite all the "historical indicators" and their own belief that this is a historical progressive moment, their agenda and their candidate are in trouble. They are insecure. Instead of a blowout victory, and the inevitable Hegelian or Marxian march of history toward another progressive dysutopia, they see a very close election. In that, they are at least behaving rationally. And so the immediate rabid dog attacks.
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:06:18pm |
re: #708 baxtrice
Oh and marjorie, thanks for answering my question, I see that you are being deluged with them and are trying very hard to get to all of them. My biggest vice is my lack of patience.
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:06:33pm |
re: #726 marjoriemoon
I'm glad to have impressed you :) Don't get me wrong. I'm not jumping for joy over here. The beginning of this argument was about the Palin pick and from what I observe, she's not going to win over the fence sitters in the least. And not the Dems. I thought Romney would have been better for ya'll.
Marjorie, you shouldn't be all that encouraged. Some of us remember you from past visits. Maybe you should go peddle your tales over at KOS.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:07:29pm |
re: #721 marjoriemoon
I'll go with Leiberman! But Obama won't pick him. Maybe McCain.
I'm thinking Bill may get a spot, but I don't know where. Al Gore is going into some environmental spot I would think.
"ma.moon" -
As I voted for him in 2000, I believe I am allowed to have an opinion of the former Vice-President. or what it is worth (shades of Buffalo Springfield) - I believe former VP Gore has gone over to the "Dark Side."
Discussion?
-S-
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kansas Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:07:45pm |
re: #726 marjoriemoon
I'm glad to have impressed you :) Don't get me wrong. I'm not jumping for joy over here. The beginning of this argument was about the Palin pick and from what I observe, she's not going to win over the fence sitters in the least. And not the Dems. I thought Romney would have been better for ya'll.
Romney would have been better for you all. Me thinks thats why the gnashing of teeth from the left, but thanks for the hints anyway. Karl Rove is grinning ear to ear every time Mr. No Experience Messiah challenges Palin's experience. This is really too funny.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:07:47pm |
re: #729 galloping granny
Why are some kissing up to the troll? It's undignified.
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godfrey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:08:00pm |
re: #720 Dr. Shalit
Yep. 'Nuff said. I'd welcome it.
Of course, I welcomed Rice, and now I'm not at all happy with the new way she talks. She walked out on me.
Palin is very capable. What I like is her grit, and it's not fake. Those first security briefings are going to feel like blows to the stomach. I'm sure she can handle it.
Obama won't -- he'll be like the kid in the foxhole who freezes.
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jwb7605 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:08:44pm |
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kansas Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:09:19pm |
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:09:28pm |
re: #726 marjoriemoon
I'm glad to have impressed you :) Don't get me wrong. I'm not jumping for joy over here. The beginning of this argument was about the Palin pick and from what I observe, she's not going to win over the fence sitters in the least. And not the Dems. I thought Romney would have been better for ya'll.
You're missing the point of why she was picked. Today, Jim Dobson said he would vote for McCain. She is there to shore up the base first. She is pro life, pro gun and fiscally conservative. Thats is reason #1 why she was picked. She is also there to appeal to the PUMAs, especially in PA and OH where Hillary beat BHO by double-digits.
Romney would NOT have shore up the base. Many of the evangelicals had serious qualms about a Mormon and he did not resonate with the real fiscal conservatives.
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:09:30pm |
re: #733 vagabond trader
Why are some kissing up to the troll? It's undignified.
Not kissing up, just being civilized. Something that has been sorely lacking for too long in our society.
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godfrey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:10:16pm |
Marjoriemoon isn't a troll. Marj, I think the more the fence-sitters see Sarah Palin, the more they'll be convinced she's the stuff.
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:10:17pm |
re: #733 vagabond trader
Why are some kissing up to the troll? It's undignified.
We musn't ever let it be said that Lizards are unwelcoming or impolite. :)
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:11:04pm |
re: #738 baxtrice
Not kissing up, just being civilized. Something that has been sorely lacking for too long in our society.
Here here. What is taking place is a civilized discussion and an exchange of ideas. This is a chance and a place for both sides to learn from one another.
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Emery Calame Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:11:10pm |
Does this mean she works for a race of hiveminded xenophobic shapeshifters who rule the Gamma Quadrant of the Milkyway galaxy?
Does Avery Brooks know about this?
Why would the prophets of Bajor let her come through the wormhole?
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:11:49pm |
re: #731 kansas
Romney would have been better for you all. Me thinks thats why the gnashing of teeth from the left, but thanks for the hints anyway. Karl Rove is grinning ear to ear every time Mr. No Experience Messiah challenges Palin's experience. This is really too funny.
KS -
For ALL US'UNS ALL. Thankfully, MITT appears to be a team player, and a graceful one at that.
-S
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reine.de.tout Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:12:02pm |
re: #603 godfreyHas Obama been a mayor or ever shot a rifle?
No, but he has ridden a bike with a flat tire!
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kansas Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:12:07pm |
re: #738 baxtrice
Not kissing up, just being civilized. Something that has been sorely lacking for too long in our society.
Politics ain't beanbag, and civilized gets you beat in the elections, but you are welcome to be nice.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:13:06pm |
re: #742 Emery Calame
Resistance is futile. But it can be fun and make the experience more...I'm sharing too much again, aren't I?
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:13:53pm |
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kansas Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:14:15pm |
re: #743 Dr. Shalit
KS -
For ALL US'UNS ALL. Thankfully, MITT appears to be a team player, and a graceful one at that.
-S
I agree that Mitt is a team player and graceful. I like him. He would be great President, IMO. I just don't think at this time the MSM would allow him to be elected. I saw the coverage he got in the primary. I could be wrong.
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:14:51pm |
re: #743 Dr. Shalit
KS -
For ALL US'UNS ALL. Thankfully, MITT appears to be a team player, and a graceful one at that.
-S
Both Romney and Pawlenty were playing along with Mac, helping to deflect suspicion about Mac's VP pick until the last minute. Mitt went to the airport with a suitcase. Pawlenty cancelled all his appearances. And for some hours early this morning there were two different web pages up - one announcing Romney as the VP pick and the other announcing Pawlenty.
Mitt is going to make a fantastic Secretary of Commerce.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:14:54pm |
re: #746 kansas
Politics ain't beanbag, and civilized gets you beat in the elections, but you are welcome to be nice.
And that is why we are so damned divided on foreign policy. We have to educate the other side--not annihilate them.
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knockominihan Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:15:07pm |
re: #696 Spirit93
As ABC News put it (I'm paraphrasing):
"Now, no matter who wins, this will be a historic elections because it means either an African American or a women elected to the executive office of the US"
McCain just stole Obama's thunder.
A day after the Dem convention and the show is Palin, Palin, Palin.
I sampled the late breakin news page at Dem Underground and headlines about Palin outnumber headlines about Biden and/or Obama 2:1.
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:15:24pm |
re: #746 kansas
Politics ain't beanbag, and civilized gets you beat in the elections, but you are welcome to be nice.
There's a time for civility and a time for war. This is not a time beating her over the head. We may disagree with her, but she might come around. It's worth a shot, wouldn't you agree, if it gets McCain another vote and keeps the socialism/marxism at bay?
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kansas Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:16:39pm |
re: #751 calcajun
And that is why we are so damned divided on foreign policy. We have to educate the other side--not annihilate them.
Well, good luck with educating the other side. Let me know how the troofers do with the actual truth.
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godfrey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:17:26pm |
re: #750 galloping granny
Mitt is going to make a fantastic Secretary of Commerce.
I think we have a winner.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:17:36pm |
re: #735 jwb7605
re: #738 baxtrice
re: #740 galloping granny
Please,being a Jew and Zionist I have no patience for house Jews.Shame upon any Jew who supports the Obama. No one but Charles is going to tell me how I may express my disdain, and I do not appreciate being lectured to about imaginary breaches in etiquette.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:17:52pm |
re: #694 galloping granny
Hey granny. It's getting late and I'm getting sleepy to address everything you said. There's been no proof whatsoever that either Barack or Michelle benefited from affirmative action. If you have proof that they have, please post. I'd like to see it.
Folks here think he's a shmuck who has sailed along on his "blackness" and I find that so incredibly offensive, that I've refrained from going there for the last few weeks. A Harvard/Columbian grad and a constitutional lawyer to boot. I've worked in law firms for almost 30 years and I've met just one constitutional lawyer. You have to be quite brilliant for such a study. Compare to McCain who came in, what 894 out of a class of 899 or some such? To me smarts matter.
Supporting Hillary, I didn't pay much attention to Obama's speeches until quite recently and as I have, I've seen a different message than you. I loved the Dem Convention even tho much of it was pie in the sky and I rolled my eyes quite a bit. But overall, it energized me. I'm still a Dem, did I mention? :)
I could be dead wrong... but I think Obama is going to run with it.
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:18:02pm |
re: #752 knockominihan
A day after the Dem convention and the show is Palin, Palin, Palin.
I sampled the late breakin news page at Dem Underground and headlines about Palin outnumber headlines about Biden and/or Obama 2:1.
The show as been McCain's VP since very early this morning - about 8 east coast time. Someone posted some hours back that Palin and any possible configuration were the top searches on Google. As a matter of fact, McCain's campaign, VP and Palin made up about half of the top 100 searches.
/did somebody give a speech last night?
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kansas Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:19:01pm |
re: #753 baxtrice
There's a time for civility and a time for war. This is not a time beating her over the head. We may disagree with her, but she might come around. It's worth a shot, wouldn't you agree, if it gets McCain another vote and keeps the socialism/marxism at bay?
Well, I hope I'm not beating her over the head, but I'm not sure Democrats come here to be educated.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:19:07pm |
re: #745 reine.de.tout
No, but he has ridden a bike with a flat tire!
Queenie -
About as good as staying in a Holiday Inn, last night. By the way, I have SHOT everything from a .22 to a 50 "caliber" machine gun. I prefer the 30.06 hunting rifle.
-S-
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:19:38pm |
re: #756 vagabond trader
re: #738 baxtrice
re: #740 galloping granny
Please,being a Jew and Zionist I have no patience for house Jews.Shame upon any Jew who supports the Obama. No one but Charles is going to tell me how I may express my disdain, and I do not appreciate being lectured to about imaginary breaches in etiquette.
Vagabond, I think that you have misread me and possibly all of us. I was not accusing you of anything. I accepted your question at face value and told you exactly why I have not been trying to grind Marjoriemoon into the dust.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:19:54pm |
re: #695 NTropy
Nahh - Marjorie seems nice, just mistaken. Why be antagonistic? In the six years I've been commenting here I've seen way WAY worse than Marjoriemoon.
LOL Political jungle fever... Yaaa baby!
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johnnyreb Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:19:57pm |
What the heck does this mean exactly? Sounds alot like someone trying to sound intelligent but not making sense:
"There are quite a number of extremely troubling links between Sarah Palin and neopentecostal dominionists--enough that, in truth, she may be ultimately as much of a "dream candidate" for the dominionist movement as Mike Huckabee was. Even worse, she's running in a manner that has been frighteningly successful for dominionist groups since the early 80's--specifically, as a "stealth candidate"."
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:21:07pm |
re: #696 Spirit93
As ABC News put it (I'm paraphrasing):
"Now, no matter who wins, this will be a historic elections because it means either an African American or a women elected to the executive office of the US"
McCain just stole Obama's thunder.
Ya know, I didn't think about it, but that's a fact! But you guys were just jealous we were getting all the attention ;) That's the ticket!
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:21:13pm |
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godfrey Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:21:15pm |
POTUS Cabinet list, for ref:
State
Treasury
Defense
Attorney General
Interior
Agriculture
Commerce
Labor
HHS
HUD
Transportation
Energy
Education
Veterans
Homeland Security
VP
Chief of Staff
EPA
OMB
Drugs
Trade Rep
Fed
Social Security
National Intelligence
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gunjam Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:21:28pm |
re: #29 Charles
Dominionism is real enough, but the evidence given in this Kos Kid's post that Palin follows that line is slim to nonexistent. I looked into some of it, and found several distortions, including the same 'creationist' distortion I posted about earlier.
It sounds to me as though one could simply substitute the term "evangelical protestant" for "dominionist" as described in the wikipedia article to which you linked.
As an evangelical protestant, I can tell you that this is a distortion and a smear, and it is obviously so intended (as used by the "Dark Christian" types, anyway).
Frankly, we evangelicals pray for our leaders (even non-Christian ones), and we tend to vote for candidates who (at least promise to) support socially conservative, economically conservative, and politically conservative agendas.
We yearn to see God-fearing folks in office. Most of us, however, are alive to the fact that being a Christian does not automatically mean that an individual will necessarily be a better mayor, senator, what have you. While most of us -- in this post 9/11 world -- would likely not go quite as far as Martin Luther (the German Reformer) when he said, "Better a wise Turk (i.e., Muslim) than a foolish Christian [for king]," most of us probably would say "Better a wise Jew/Mormon/Roman Catholic than a foolish Christian." (Point of fact: I am glad Huckabee is not the Republican nominee, though I hardly hate the man.)
The folks at Dark Christian are aggressively pagan and anti-Christian. They apparently deny or resent the Christian heritage and roots that have been part and parcel of the American historical tradition: Ever seen the painting of George Washington praying on bended knee in the snow during the Revolutionary War (Note: no prayer rug or bowing to Mecca)? That would doubtless be seen by the Dark Christian types as dangerous "dominionist" propaganda: Probably why we don't see that painting as much as we used to.
I will admit that there are better and worse members of the wide-ranging grouping of evangelicals and charismatics. I for one cannot stomach the pseudo-healer Benny Hinns or the Evangelical "Light" Joel Osteens. However, I highly doubt that these folks -- who are, in truth, theological lightweights -- pose any real threat to the future of the American political landscape.
The left is very good at assigning "phobic" type labels to those who oppose them: "Homophobic," "Xenophobic," etc.
Whether or not such terms are appropriate or not, I do think that it is appropriate to describe the "Dark Christian" types as "christophobic" (the term is hardly original with me).
The Assemblies of God are, as a rule, far removed theologically from the Reformed Presbyterian circles that produced Rushdoony and his Theonomist school of thought. One is Arminian, the other Calvinist. The one is Dispensational, the other A-, or Post-Millennial. One believes that God will restore the Jews/Israel to prominence. The other believes that the Church has replaced Israel. But the folks in both groups do believe in the LORD Jesus Christ and look forward to his soon return.
The true theonomists (a small minority within Evangelicalism) would seek to codify the 631 commands of the Pentateuch as the law of the land. Most AoG types would not.
I am neither a Presbyterian nor an AoG type, but have known fine folks from both groups.
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Hard Right Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:21:45pm |
re: #751 calcajun
And that is why we are so damned divided on foreign policy. We have to educate the other side--not annihilate them.
No. We are divided because that "other side" is out of touch with reality. They live in a fantasy world and most of them are inacapable of facing reality.
Recall that the dems have deliberately tried to make us lose the war on terror, tried to cause a recession with blatant lies, and have crippled our oil industry. All of that was done just so they could get into power and further push America towards socialism.
When someone is trying to destroy you, you don't try to educate them. You fight back. You DO annihilate them.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:23:08pm |
re: #761 galloping granny
I repeat, I am a Jew and any Jew who drinks the Obama koolaid is not going to get petted by me.Goodnite,enjoy the enlightening discussion.
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:23:12pm |
re: #759 kansas
Well, I hope I'm not beating her over the head, but I'm not sure Democrats come here to be educated.
No, most of them come here to mock us and try to start fights and incite flame wars. I understand your line of thought and I initially branded her a troll as well, but after reading a few posts of hers, it seemed that she could be reasoned with. OR I could be just too nice. (Which I have many times in my life)
We must always be vigilant, evil lurks and will not be stopped whether we want to believe it or not.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:23:22pm |
re: #754 kansas
Well, good luck with educating the other side. Let me know how the troofers do with the actual truth.
Ad hominen attacks aren't the answer. Keep countering their stupidity with the real truth. Don't let the "big lie" fester.
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jwb7605 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:23:46pm |
re: #750 galloping granny
Both Romney and Pawlenty were playing along with Mac, helping to deflect suspicion about Mac's VP pick until the last minute. Mitt went to the airport with a suitcase. Pawlenty cancelled all his appearances. And for some hours early this morning there were two different web pages up - one announcing Romney as the VP pick and the other announcing Pawlenty.
Mitt is going to make a fantastic Secretary of Commerce.
Rove is, for sure, a magnificent bastard.
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:23:50pm |
re: #756 vagabond trader
re: #738 baxtrice
re: #740 galloping granny
Please,being a Jew and Zionist I have no patience for house Jews.Shame upon any Jew who supports the Obama. No one but Charles is going to tell me how I may express my disdain, and I do not appreciate being lectured to about imaginary breaches in etiquette.
I'm sorry, is this sarcasm, or have we offended you?
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mfarmer1 Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:24:41pm |
I've never heard of the "Dominionist" movement, except the Star Trek version already mentioned here several times.
If the Daily Kos types really think they're going to scare the nation into thinking this woman wants to install a Biblical government (translation: Christian "Shari'a" law) they will soon find themselves grasping for another take on Governor Palin.
This atheist is 100% behind this pick.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:24:58pm |
re: #762 marjoriemoon
"mm" -
When YOU grow up - in a year or two or three - You'll be happy as can be -
WHEN YOU GROW UP!
-S-
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:25:06pm |
re: #770 vagabond trader
I repeat, I am a Jew and any Jew who drinks the Obama koolaid is not going to get petted by me.Goodnite,enjoy the enlightening discussion.
I most certainly do not drink the Obama kool-aid and was just trying to be civilized. Nothing more.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:25:47pm |
re: #699 NTropy
ACK! Blasphemy! Bill got lucky with a totally unforeseen explosion of the internet. He was a miserable failure on foreign policy. Comparing Clinton to Reagan is like comparing poop to platinum.
Did ya watch the convention? He could have stood there for 3 days being cheered and that's from both sides, the Obama and Hillary side, and that's even after the traitors threw him under the bus over this election. In reality, we love him like you love Reagan.
I met him in 2004. Well I shook his hand at a convention. The man is magnetic.
And yes, I agree his foreign policy wasn't good.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:27:22pm |
re: #769 Hard Right
Some-not all. Many are old hard line Dems in the mold of Scoop Jackson et al. I have little patience for the post 72 Dems and they need to be run out of the party. There is a new wave that came in in 2006 who are more centrist and for who politics end at the water's edge --as it should. Those are the ones with whom we can reason. The socialists from 72 on are the ones that need to be destroyed. You look at it like a war. I look at it like removing a cancer on the body politic.
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Hard Right Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:28:27pm |
re: #773 calcajun
Ad hominen attacks aren't the answer. Keep countering their stupidity with the real truth. Don't let the "big lie" fester.
They don't care about the truth. Their entire belief system is based on denial of reality and the construction of a fantasy world that makes them feel good about themselves/alleviates their fears.
If you want to try and "save" them, feel free. Don't think tell us to try with someone who thinks the 2000 election was stolen and that bill klinton was their version of Reagan.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:28:42pm |
re: #778 baxtrice
Wasn't referring to you, but to the Obamaton who claims to be a Zionist.The one who has roped you into its "reasonable" rubbish heap. I will never be civil to the enemy within,never.
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:29:14pm |
re: #757 marjoriemoon
Hey granny. It's getting late and I'm getting sleepy to address everything you said. There's been no proof whatsoever that either Barack or Michelle benefited from affirmative action. If you have proof that they have, please post. I'd like to see it.
Michelle Obama has readily admitted that she benefited from affirmative action in that she was admitted to an Ivy League school based on her brother's status as an athelete (what Ivy's call a "legacy") rather than her own academic record. She did very poorly on her SATs.
Further, virtually all blacks and American Indians admitted to any of the Ivies during the 70s and early 80s were there almost solely because of affirmative action. The history is easy enough to find if you are interested.
Folks here think he's a shmuck who has sailed along on his "blackness" and I find that so incredibly offensive, that I've refrained from going there for the last few weeks. A Harvard/Columbian grad and a constitutional lawyer to boot. I've worked in law firms for almost 30 years and I've met just one constitutional lawyer. You have to be quite brilliant for such a study. Compare to McCain who came in, what 894 out of a class of 899 or some such? To me smarts matter.
Harvard does not impress me in the least. Obama has never practiced constitutional law, nor does he hold any special accreditation in constitutional law. He is not certified to argue in front of the Supremes and has in reality spent little time in actual practice of law. He has a track record of publications that equals just exactly ZERO. And that includes cases he has argued that have made the law books.
If you are so hot and heavy on smarts, do remember that the very hardest school of higher education to get into in the country, one of if not the most exclusive in the world, is the United States Naval Academy. Far and away more exclusive than Harvard. Nobody who gets out the door of the Naval Academy is even remotely close to "not smart." Most of them fully qualify as brilliant - especially those to whom we intrust multimillion dollar aircraft.
Supporting Hillary, I didn't pay much attention to Obama's speeches until quite recently and as I have, I've seen a different message than you. I loved the Dem Convention even tho much of it was pie in the sky and I rolled my eyes quite a bit. But overall, it energized me. I'm still a Dem, did I mention? :)
I could be dead wrong... but I think Obama is going to run with it.
There is a huge difference between show & substance. Obama is nothing but smoke and mirrors, a stuffed suit that believes his own hype.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:29:33pm |
re: #702 baxtrice
Marjoriemoon, since your not answering my question, I just want to impart some wisdom on you::
In the midst of the Clinton Years and the "greatest economical policies EVAH" as referenced by our Media and by the Democrats, my family struggled. STRUGGLED. We went hungry, we barely had money to pay our bills, everything was handed down through the family and my parents worked several jobs. This all started because my father lost his job and my mother had to go back to work (she was a stay at home mother). They both worked 80 hours a week to pay for everything and never complained. I and my sister were latchkey children. My father tried to get unemployment and we were told that he MADE TOO MUCH MONEY (we barely scraped by).
The moral of the story is: People fall on hard times no matter what.
We made it and finally climbed out of the debt we were in, and we did it without government help.
Many more people suffered (and still suffer) under trickle-down economics.
From 1993-2000, 22.2 million new jobs were created, the most jobs ever created under a single administration. An average of 248,000 jobs per month, compared to 52,000/month under Bush I and 167,000/month under Reagan.
In 1992, the Federal budget deficit was $290 billion, the largest deficit in our history. In 2000, there was a surplus of approximately $230 billion.
The unemployment and inflation rate fell to the lowest in 30 years.
We had the highest home ownership in the country's history.
Not too shabby.
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Hard Right Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:30:10pm |
re: #780 calcajun
Some-not all. Many are old hard line Dems in the mold of Scoop Jackson et al. I have little patience for the post 72 Dems and they need to be run out of the party. There is a new wave that came in in 2006 who are more centrist and for who politics end at the water's edge --as it should. Those are the ones with whom we can reason. The socialists from 72 on are the ones that need to be destroyed. You look at it like a war. I look at it like removing a cancer on the body politic.
Wish I'd seen this before my last post. I agree with you. +1
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:30:30pm |
re: #783 vagabond trader
Wasn't referring to you, but to the Obamaton who claims to be a Zionist.The one who has roped you into its "reasonable" rubbish heap. I will never be civil to the enemy within,never.
Ahh, now I understand.
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:30:36pm |
re: #765 Dr. Shalit
GG -
Sec. Treasury or Commerce. That is all.
-S-
Rommey is a rain maker. He would be sorely wasted counting beans at Treasury.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:31:12pm |
re: #781 Hard Right
I agree. The means is to keep slapping them in the face with the truth. Answer the charges when they are made. They use the "big lie". We keep refuting it. It's the same for Holocaust deniers--keep hitting them with the incontrovertible forensic evidence.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:31:29pm |
re: #779 marjoriemoon
Did ya watch the convention? He could have stood there for 3 days being cheered and that's from both sides, the Obama and Hillary side, and that's even after the traitors threw him under the bus over this election. In reality, we love him like you love Reagan.
I met him in 2004. Well I shook his hand at a convention. The man is magnetic.
And yes, I agree his foreign policy wasn't good.
"mm" -
PUH - LEEZE -
Met Jimmy Carter in 1976 - Defended Him to JIMMY BRESLIN on inauguration day, 1977 in a DC Cafeteria. Bottom Line - I WAS WRONG, JIMMY BRESLIN was right. I accept being wrong. Will you?
-S-
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:32:46pm |
re: #786 Hard Right
Thanks, pal. As long as we keep talking, the answer is always in sight.
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:32:54pm |
re: #785 marjoriemoon
Many more people suffered (and still suffer) under trickle-down economics.
From 1993-2000, 22.2 million new jobs were created, the most jobs ever created under a single administration. An average of 248,000 jobs per month, compared to 52,000/month under Bush I and 167,000/month under Reagan.
In 1992, the Federal budget deficit was $290 billion, the largest deficit in our history. In 2000, there was a surplus of approximately $230 billion.
The unemployment and inflation rate fell to the lowest in 30 years.
We had the highest home ownership in the country's history.
Not too shabby.
Aaaa Swing and a Miss! I think you missed my point.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:33:02pm |
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Hard Right Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:34:53pm |
re: #785 marjoriemoon
Many more people suffered (and still suffer) under trickle-down economics.
From 1993-2000, 22.2 million new jobs were created, the most jobs ever created under a single administration. An average of 248,000 jobs per month, compared to 52,000/month under Bush I and 167,000/month under Reagan.
In 1992, the Federal budget deficit was $290 billion, the largest deficit in our history. In 2000, there was a surplus of approximately $230 billion.
The unemployment and inflation rate fell to the lowest in 30 years.
We had the highest home ownership in the country's history.
Not too shabby.
1) klinton had nothing to do with the successful economy. The internet boom did.
2) The surplus was thanks to the Republican controlled congress--in spite of klinton's efforts to stop them.
3) The unemployment rate under Bush has been as good or better than under klinton.
4) The mortgage crisis can be laid directly at the feet of the dems and their interference in the free market.
5) When klinton left office he handed Bush an economy in recession
6) klinton is responsible for 9/11
Yeah, some legacy. (roll eyes) Yup, you're just another moonbat.
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wkett Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:36:25pm |
Creationism and Kos kids aside, if something were to happen to McCain, would Palin be fit to be Commander in Chief?
With 2 times the experience of Odumma your point is we need to elect Mcain
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:36:42pm |
re: #708 baxtrice
The Maverick: supported Cap & Trade.
- sort of buys into Global Warming/Climate Change.
- soft on illegal immigration.. and much much more!If I go on, I may upset the others. Read up my friend. Knowledge is power. Educated thyself instead of just listening to the tired old mainstream media. It will knock your socks off!
hehe You REALLY don't want my opinion on global warming and illegal immigration. Did I mention I'm a Dem? :) I'd like a stronger position on global warming but I think I agree with him on immigration, from what I recall.
I don't talk about these things here because it seems rather pointless. I'm not going to convince anyone. I came here originally oh so many years ago because Charles loves Israel and I went from despising Republicans to understanding your lot and realizing most of you (there are some far flung folks) are just like us. We want the same things in life, just have different ideas on how to get them.
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:37:18pm |
re: #779 marjoriemoon
Did ya watch the convention? He could have stood there for 3 days being cheered and that's from both sides, the Obama and Hillary side, and that's even after the traitors threw him under the bus over this election. In reality, we love him like you love Reagan.
I met him in 2004. Well I shook his hand at a convention. The man is magnetic.
And yes, I agree his foreign policy wasn't good.
Obama's foreign policy is nonexistent because he has no understanding of history and no experience in foreign affairs or diplomacy.
Obama's economic plan is a disaster because he has no understanding of business or economics.
Obama's judgment is lousy because he has no firm principles or moral foundation to stand on.
Magnetism, narcissism and the ability to get people to cheer for you are not qualifications for the single most responsible job in the world.
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LeonidasOfSparta Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:37:54pm |
re: #428 least
you are spot-on. But their blast of hate and animosity is devoid of any truth-- they will find themselves hoisted upon their own petard.
I was going to add to your statement: contrast the difference between Palin choosing life for her child and Obama's statement about his daughters' rights to choose abortion by saying "should they be punished with a baby?"
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Hard Right Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:38:34pm |
re: #796 wkett
Creationism and Kos kids aside, if something were to happen to McCain, would Palin be fit to be Commander in Chief?
With 2 times the experience of Odumma your point is we need to elect Mcain
I'd vote for her for president too. Just think, if McCain does two terms or retires after one, she would be the most likely presidential candidate on deck.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:38:59pm |
re: #785 marjoriemoon
"mm" -
Two words to you that will be like "KRYPTONITE" - ELIAN GONZALEZ! When that child was seized - and returned to CUBA the election of 2000 was lost. All 'y'all just might say that GWB got his JOB through "GRANMA.CU"
-S-
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:40:13pm |
re: #779 marjoriemoon
In reality, we love him like you love Reagan.
IThe man is magnetic.
And yes, I agree his foreign policy wasn't good.
Yes, but Reagan had executive experience by 1980.
Here's my biggest beef with Obama. McCain is not a party hack. Neither is Palin. Obama graduated from law school and moved to a locale where he could insinuate himself into the local political structure. He has never gone against the party or taken a position contrary to that held by his constituents. He has never spoken his own mind- he has towed the party line. McCain is like Churchill in that he has bucked the party --though he has not crossed over like WSC. Obama has been party loyalty incarnate--is that a real indicia of "Change" or business as usual?
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:41:21pm |
Well ladies and gentlemen. I am off to bed. I've got class tomorrow. (evil saturday class!)
Be Good!
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:42:17pm |
re: #802 Dr. Shalit
"mm" -
Two words to you that will be like "KRYPTONITE" - ELIAN GONZALEZ! When that child was seized - and returned to CUBA the election of 2000 was lost. All 'y'all just might say that GWB got his JOB through "GRANMA.CU"
-S-
Waco. And a few other places.
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Hard Right Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:42:53pm |
re: #803 calcajun
Yes, but Reagan had executive experience by 1980.
Here's my biggest beef with Obama. McCain is not a party hack. Neither is Palin. Obama graduated from law school and moved to a locale where he could insinuate himself into the local political structure. He has never gone against the party or taken a position contrary to that held by his constituents. He has never spoken his own mind- he has towed the party line. McCain is like Churchill in that he has bucked the party --though he has not crossed over like WSC. Obama has been party loyalty incarnate--is that a real indicia of "Change" or business as usual?
He has also never held a real job. All he has known is the insulated world of public service and those who are as detatched from reality as he is.
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LeonidasOfSparta Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:44:46pm |
re: #798 galloping granny
YES GG you are so right. Remember the old bromide, "he who stands for nothing is liable to fall for everything."
Well, B Nero Obama, stands only for himself and his own ego. He is driven by a desire for power, not a desire to act on principle-- indeed he has no sense of what is principled, what is true, what is right. His multi-culti mindset is all about moral equivalence and moral relativity.
Sorry, but that's no basis from which to make ONE vital decision. I frankly cannot imagine how he makes decisions on a daily basis...and it appears that the decisions he makes about friends and allies is as frightful as his overall lack of understanding.
He's someone who covers their eyes from the light of the sun and tries to convince everyone else that it's night.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:46:20pm |
re: #716 NTropy
Dems have better domestic policies? I know it's not liked but we still have overseas military responsibilities. I know there has been a timetable bandied about by both the Bush administration and the Iraqis of sometime in 2011 for withdrawal of our troops. Obama wants it to be sooner. We still have responsibilities in Afghanistan. Combine that inheritance with the massive - MASSIVE - increase in governmental handouts proposed by Obama and I can't imagine how you can say the Dems have better domestic policies. Drastically increased taxes and disincentives for investment do not make for better domestic policy.
Obama is indeed hard left. The Washington Post has him as the #1 most liberal in 2006. Joe Biden was #3. As for Kucinich, well he's just plain Mad.
Taxes, welfare, this is why I'm a Dem. Love me or hate me.
The rich would pay more under Obama's tax plan, and the poor and middle-class would pay less. Under McCain, the rich would pay much less than they do now, the poor and middle-class would pay a bit less, and the federal deficit would grow.
As to social programs, did I mention I'm a Dem? Welfare reform enacted by Clinton during the last days of his administration was the way to go and it worked. A 2 year weaning program that gave folks a learned skill, put them back in the workforce and gave tax breaks to company's who hired them. All nixed by Bush during his first 4 years. Pity that.
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baxtrice Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:46:22pm |
One last thing and I am off to bed: Sarah Palin Demotivator
LOL
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:46:24pm |
re: #803 calcajun
Yes, but Reagan had executive experience by 1980.
Here's my biggest beef with Obama. McCain is not a party hack. Neither is Palin. Obama graduated from law school and moved to a locale where he could insinuate himself into the local political structure. He has never gone against the party or taken a position contrary to that held by his constituents. He has never spoken his own mind- he has towed the party line. McCain is like Churchill in that he has bucked the party --though he has not crossed over like WSC. Obama has been party loyalty incarnate--is that a real indicia of "Change" or business as usual?
My biggest beef with Obama is that when you go through his voting record there are entire categories of issues on which he has never once cast a vote. In the Illinois legislature he had 130 or so NOVOTEs - which means that he either cast no vote at all or re voted "present." In his few short years as a Senator he has racked up at least that many in the US Senate while we have been paying him to conduct our nation's business. By contrast, my ultra liberal, openly socialist Senator from Vermont Bernie Sanders, who has been in the Senate for many years, has just exactly ONE NOVOTE.
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Hard Right Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:47:02pm |
re: #808 calcajun
Can you say "arugula"?
SNOBama!
I barely knew what it was until his defining "arugula" moment.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:48:05pm |
re: #805 galloping granny
"gg' -
Actually, at the time, I went along with Waco as i got to know an FBI agent assigned there. Koresh was NO ANGEL - AND - the reaction might just have been too massive.
-S-
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:50:07pm |
re: #810 baxtrice
One last thing and I am off to bed: Sarah Palin Demotivator
LOL
"Bax" -
Whaddabout - "YES,I DID!"
-S-
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:50:10pm |
re: #723 vagabond trader
Can't answer the "Jewish questions" I posed. You're no Zionist,and pushing fifty is waaay too old to be such a silly twit.
Umm which questions did this old silly non-zionist twit miss?
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Freedom Fan Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:50:52pm |
There are quite a number of extremely troubling links between Sarah Palin and neopentecostal dominionists...
-dogemperor, braindamaged KOS conspiracy goofball
Ooooh that sounds terrible! Um ... what the hell are you talking about?
Is it really the Christians who are secretly behind all the terrorist mayhem to take over the world? Was Dubya behind 9/11 and Katrina? Did Diebold steal the election?
What a michael mooreon.
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galloping granny Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:50:56pm |
re: #809 marjoriemoon
Taxes, welfare, this is why I'm a Dem. Love me or hate me.
The rich would pay more under Obama's tax plan, and the poor and middle-class would pay less. Under McCain, the rich would pay much less than they do now, the poor and middle-class would pay a bit less, and the federal deficit would grow.
As to social programs, did I mention I'm a Dem? Welfare reform enacted by Clinton during the last days of his administration was the way to go and it worked. A 2 year weaning program that gave folks a learned skill, put them back in the workforce and gave tax breaks to company's who hired them. All nixed by Bush during his first 4 years. Pity that.
Maybe YOU had better go take a basic economics class. By the time your social security goes up and your use/sales/luxury taxes go up and your gas/utility taxes go up - and they all will, because the money to put all Obama's grandiose plans in place require lots and lots of $$$ - and your health insurance skyrockets due to a single payer system you won't need to worry about your "taxes" going up.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:51:23pm |
re: #811 galloping granny
My biggest beef with Obama is that when you go through his voting record there are entire categories of issues on which he has never once cast a vote. In the Illinois legislature he had 130 or so NOVOTEs - which means that he either cast no vote at all or re voted "present." In his few short years as a Senator he has racked up at least that many in the US Senate while we have been paying him to conduct our nation's business. By contrast, my ultra liberal, openly socialist Senator from Vermont Bernie Sanders, who has been in the Senate for many years, has just exactly ONE NOVOTE.
Which is why I have said on several occasions that the Dems have nominated Chance the Gardener from "Being There".
AS for you senator, the words of Churchill come to mind: "You sat you have enemies? Good. It means you stood for something."
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:51:52pm |
re: #728 baxtrice
Oh and marjorie, thanks for answering my question, I see that you are being deluged with them and are trying very hard to get to all of them. My biggest vice is my lack of patience.
I'm trying girl! (I'm assuming girl hehe)
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:53:33pm |
re: #730 Dr. Shalit
"ma.moon" -
As I voted for him in 2000, I believe I am allowed to have an opinion of the former Vice-President. or what it is worth (shades of Buffalo Springfield) - I believe former VP Gore has gone over to the "Dark Side."
Discussion?-S-
Would that be... SATAN?
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:53:43pm |
re: #809 marjoriemoon
Taxes, welfare, this is why I'm a Dem. Love me or hate me.
The rich would pay more under Obama's tax plan, and the poor and middle-class would pay less. Under McCain, the rich would pay much less than they do now, the poor and middle-class would pay a bit less, and the federal deficit would grow.
As to social programs, did I mention I'm a Dem? Welfare reform enacted by Clinton during the last days of his administration was the way to go and it worked. A 2 year weaning program that gave folks a learned skill, put them back in the workforce and gave tax breaks to company's who hired them. All nixed by Bush during his first 4 years. Pity that.
"mm" -
Being JEWISH - I never believed in SANTA CLAUS or THE EASTER BUNNY.
WHY DO YOU?
-S-
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:54:37pm |
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:58:50pm |
re: #737 calcajun
You're missing the point of why she was picked. Today, Jim Dobson said he would vote for McCain. She is there to shore up the base first. She is pro life, pro gun and fiscally conservative. Thats is reason #1 why she was picked. She is also there to appeal to the PUMAs, especially in PA and OH where Hillary beat BHO by double-digits.
Romney would NOT have shore up the base. Many of the evangelicals had serious qualms about a Mormon and he did not resonate with the real fiscal conservatives.
Well, I just assumed Romney for what I heard you guys talking about, but I understand the Mormon issue.
I'm telling you that I can't possibly see how this woman would woo over the PUMAs. Other than they're idiots to begin with. Sore losers and traitors are better words. I was never a PUMA and was appalled at their behaviour. I do understand they were hurt and there was a lot to be hurt over. I also think the Dem convention did an excellent job of reminding them what their party is about and why I can't see them voting for McCain with his pick.
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Freedom Fan Fri, Aug 29, 2008 7:59:56pm |
The rich would pay more under Obama's tax plan, and the poor and middle-class would pay less. Under McCain, the rich would pay much less than they do now, the poor and middle-class would pay a bit less, and the federal deficit would grow.
As to social programs, did I mention I'm a Dem? Welfare reform enacted by Clinton during the last days of his administration was the way to go and it worked.
-marjoriemoon
Actually "rich" productive folks would find their taxes raised to subsidize, in the form of earned income credits, transfer payments to the "poor" who pay little or no taxes. This is massive socialism without the facade of money first passing through the hands of government bureaucrats. If you enjoy the way European countries like Sweden have stagnated their economies, you will luv Obama.
The welfare reform signed by Clinton was drafted by Newt Gingrich and his Contract For America renegades who brought adult supervison to D.C. for the first time in 40 years. Clinton was forced to sign after vetoing virtually identical measures ... twice.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:00:29pm |
re: #739 godfrey
Marjoriemoon isn't a troll. Marj, I think the more the fence-sitters see Sarah Palin, the more they'll be convinced she's the stuff.
It's still early. I could be dead wrong, but as a lifelong Dem, I don't think so.
If I am, you're my first stop for Crow Dinner.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:01:12pm |
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:02:27pm |
re: #741 calcajun
Here here. What is taking place is a civilized discussion and an exchange of ideas. This is a chance and a place for both sides to learn from one another.
I don't know if I'm the best representative of the Left, just of me :) I know there are a lot of ex-Dems here and some still hangers on like me, but I do GREATLY appreciate those of you who have made it a little easier for me to express myself rather than attack.
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calcajun Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:03:31pm |
re: #823 marjoriemoon
I understand your disbelief. But the polls are showing that double digit numbers of HRC supporters would go over to McCain in lieu of BHO. I have got to believe that Palin was selected to seal the deal with them, especially in the states the GOP needs and needs to flip.
Remember, Presidential politics is a game of states and counties, not voter groups. If there is a chance that the GOP can keep OH as it did in 04 and PA, it will take it.
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Freedom Fan Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:06:38pm |
I met him in 2004. Well I shook his hand at a convention. The man is magnetic.
-marjoriemoon
Well I hope you used protection ... surgical gloves, I mean. ;-)
Magnetic. Kinda like a black hole from which no truth ever escapes. I can easily see why he would be irresistable to the dhimmicrat base.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:06:42pm |
re: #753 baxtrice
There's a time for civility and a time for war. This is not a time beating her over the head. We may disagree with her, but she might come around. It's worth a shot, wouldn't you agree, if it gets McCain another vote and keeps the socialism/marxism at bay?
LOL You're kind, thank you (even if you did call me a tree-hugging, commie, pinko!)
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jpkoch Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:08:14pm |
re: #809 marjoriemoon
The GOP lead Congress wrote Welfare Reform, not Clinton. It took 6 years for Clinton to get around to it.
The rich already pay 65% of all taxes, The bottom 30% pay no income tax (thanks to Bush's 2003 tax cut). BTW, the Bush 2003 tax cuts are set to expire in 1 year. The middle class will see where the Dems stand once their taxes sky rocket and the AMT kicks in.
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Freedom Fan Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:11:13pm |
...would appear to be a complete cypher.
-dogemperor, Marxist stalking horse
Interesting. Sounds like a perfect description of the Obamanation.
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:12:17pm |
re: #761 galloping granny
Vagabond, I think that you have misread me and possibly all of us. I was not accusing you of anything. I accepted your question at face value and told you exactly why I have not been trying to grind Marjoriemoon into the dust.
Well I appreciate that, but your comment at #729 was rather dusty.
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Freedom Fan Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:14:01pm |
So Marjorie, are you terrified of Sarah Palin and her stealthy neopentecostal dominionist buddies?
/moonbat quiz
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marjoriemoon Fri, Aug 29, 2008 8:17:47pm |
re: #771 baxtrice
No, most of them come here to mock us and try to start fights and incite flame wars. I understand your line of thought and I initially branded her a troll as well, but after reading a few posts of hers, it seemed that she could be reasoned with. OR I could be just too nice. (Which I have many times in my life)
We must always be vigilant, evil lurks and will not be stopped whether we want to believe it or not.
If you search my name under the advanced search thing, you'll see my comments about Israel, or talk to a few of the lounge goers (my friends rawmuse and godfrey are two), they'll te
