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1 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:08:52pm

Don't you people like the beach?

2 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:09:00pm

Hello everyone, how are you all doing tonight?

3 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:09:43pm

I like the beach, as long as I don't have to swim in the ocean.

4 JSK1121  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:09:50pm

Is this the Gulf Coast before Gustav? Because those people better get the hell out!

5 calcajun  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:10:10pm

A path! A path! But..there's no shrubbery.

6 calcajun  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:11:04pm

re: #3 CapeCoddah

Like WC Fields said, "I don't go swimming 'cause fish fornicate in the water."

7 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:11:17pm

This storm is more powerful right now than Katrina was at this same location. I hope to God that this does not keep strengthening.

8 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:11:23pm

Life's a beach!

9 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:11:50pm

Can I climb into ... through ... my monitor?

/RATS!

10 Trippin' Chick  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:12:08pm

(Real) Ahmedinejad cries like a baby

11 Dasher  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:12:32pm

I found this on Free Republic... I forget the author's name:

For Biden, it's not 35 years of experience, but one year of experience repeated 34 times.
12 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:12:56pm

re: #8 jcm

Life's a beach!

I thought of posting that, however ... I decided not to be pedestrian.

*diving under the desk*

13 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:13:17pm

re: #6 calcajun

Like WC Fields said, "I don't go swimming 'cause fish fornicate in the water."

I like that... my new excuse when people ask me why. It actually has to do with my mother scaring the shit out of us when I was 9 or so, taking 4 little kids to see JAWS at the drive in. Lived on the water all my life, I will go boating, clamming on the flats, and sunbathing, but I will not swim.

14 rawmuse  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:13:42pm

The ocean is like fire, a good servant but a poor master.
(paraphrasing from G. Washington)

15 BlueCanuck  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:15:06pm

Ooooh beach paths, I like paths and boardwalks myself. :)

16 justgrowup  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:15:23pm

being from a lanlocked state I love pictures of beaches. So peaceful and serene.

17 LoFlyer  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:15:32pm

I have gone down many false paths. I truly hope McCain/Palin is not a false promise. The alternative offers nothing but higher taxes..

18 George guy  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:15:44pm

This is a 'shop. I can tell by the pixels, and from having seen quite a few 'shops in my time.

19 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:16:24pm

re: #17 LoFlyer
I dd not hear much in the way of platitudes from Palin, what a great pick.

20 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:16:29pm

re: #13 CapeCoddah

I like that... my new excuse when people ask me why. It actually has to do with my mother scaring the shit out of us when I was 9 or so, taking 4 little kids to see JAWS at the drive in. Lived on the water all my life, I will go boating, clamming on the flats, and sunbathing, but I will not swim.

My daughter and her husband went with his parents for a week on Kauai. She was standing hip-deep in the surf when she felt something very sand-papery scrape past on her leg. I gather that she damned near levitated up onto the beach.

21 RTLM  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:16:42pm

North.

22 DaddyO  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:17:00pm

Isn't Pamela Anderson supposed to come running out ?

23 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:17:54pm

re: #13 CapeCoddah

I like that... my new excuse when people ask me why. It actually has to do with my mother scaring the shit out of us when I was 9 or so, taking 4 little kids to see JAWS at the drive in. Lived on the water all my life, I will go boating, clamming on the flats, and sunbathing, but I will not swim.

I SCUBA and snorkel and wade - I do not swim without a mask on in salt water. Pre Jaws paranoia - I'm just not comfortable not seeing what's under me.

24 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:18:02pm

re: #20 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yup, I can just imagine how she felt. Has she re-entered orbit and crashed down yet?

25 LoFlyer  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:19:02pm

re: #19 CapeCoddah

I dd not hear much in the way of platitudes from Palin, what a great pick.

I am fired up over McCain's choice. Inspired!

26 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:19:50pm

re: #24 CapeCoddah

Yup, I can just imagine how she felt. Has she re-entered orbit and crashed down yet?

Oh yeah, that was 15 years and two kids ago.

27 LesLein  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:20:12pm

On Fox News last night Mort Kondracke said Obama's three year campaign for president qualifies as experience to be president. Talk about circular reasoning.

28 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:20:29pm

re: #25 LoFlyer

I am fired up over McCain's choice. Inspired!

So am I! I donated to their campaign today--my first presidential contribution ever.

29 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:20:52pm

re: #23 Bobibutu

See, my opinion is I would just rather stay clear. I sure don't want to see it coming, but, I don't like surprises either. Easier for me to stay on the beach, and shout occasional warnings to the kids, so that they end up having to explain to nearby beach goers not to worry, I am harmless, and they just brought me out on a weekend pass.

30 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:22:37pm

re: #22 DaddyO

Isn't Pamela Anderson supposed to come running out ?

Contrary to the conventional wisdom, she's NOT Aphrodite.

31 DaddyO  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:22:51pm

[Link: img518.imageshack.us...]

32 el marco  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:23:29pm

Just finished Part II of the Obama Invesco Field report.

33 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:23:34pm

re: #28 goddessoftheclassroom

So am I! I donated to their campaign today--my first presidential contribution ever.

Me too, I ordered yard signs and bumper stickers. I give the yard sign 24 hrs, until some lib neighbor takes offense, but, I will be watching. Woe betide any one who touches our yard sign. My husband actually had me order him a bumper sticker. I'm guessing he just secretly thinks Palin is hot.

34 DaddyO  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:23:45pm

;)

[Link: media.tumblr.com...]

35 LoFlyer  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:24:00pm

re: #28 goddessoftheclassroom

So am I! I donated to their campaign today--my first presidential contribution ever.

Good for you! Put your money with your mouth! Or give with your heart. Thanks, Goddess!

36 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:24:01pm

re: #10 Trippin' Chick

(Real) Ahmedinejad cries like a baby

What's he going to do when Israel takes out Iran's nuclear program?
Or worse, when the Messiah comes (soon I hope) and he finds out the Mahdi isn't coming. And all the Jews are after him.

37 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:24:03pm

We should just send obama on a boat out into the middle of the Gulf of Mexico where he can lift up his hands and stop the storm, Amen.

38 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:25:43pm

re: #37 Sharmuta

We should just send obama on a boat out into the middle of the Gulf of Mexico where he can lift up his hands and stop the storm, Amen.

That's evil...I like it. Better yet, put him on an oil rig out there.

39 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:25:45pm

Blue sky!

40 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:25:48pm

Jet

41 LoFlyer  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:26:16pm

re: #37 Sharmuta

We should just send obama on a boat out into the middle of the Gulf of Mexico where he can lift up his hands and stop the storm, Amen.

DNC would do that, but the know Obama would sink! I am looking forward to the RNC convention!

42 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:26:31pm

re: #21 RTLM

North.


North to Alaska!

43 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:26:50pm

re: #17 LoFlyer

I have gone down many false paths. I truly hope McCain/Palin is not a false promise. The alternative offers nothing but higher taxes..

Higher taxes are a given. Lower higher taxes under McCain -

Palin's track record indicates she's the real deal. Hey when you piss off the Republican good 'ol boys in Alaska - gotta be doing something right.

When Palin was elected Mayor of Wasilla I had my office in Anchorage and a lot of clients in her town. I thot it was way cool a woman had been elected - my clients were very enthusiastic about her. 2 years later it was obvious she was taking names and kickin' @ss. The rest is history.

44 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:27:07pm

Come on folks, 40 comments to see the jet?

Kudos to wrenchwench!

45 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:27:38pm

re: #28 goddessoftheclassroom

So am I! I donated to their campaign today--my first presidential contribution ever.

Me too!

46 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:27:47pm

Anyway, Umbrella. Lifeguard shack.

47 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:28:25pm

re: #32 el marco

Just finished Part II of the Obama Invesco Field report.

Ya had me with this really great line:

For the first time in American history a candidate for President ascended to the nomination in a Greek temple setting surrounded by 80,000 of the Obamboozled.
48 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:28:57pm

re: #29 CapeCoddah

See, my opinion is I would just rather stay clear. I sure don't want to see it coming, but, I don't like surprises either. Easier for me to stay on the beach, and shout occasional warnings to the kids, so that they end up having to explain to nearby beach goers not to worry, I am harmless, and they just brought me out on a weekend pass.

It's the ones who never see it coming who get bit.

49 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:29:24pm

Bird
(to the right of the roof of the lifeguard shack)

50 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:29:41pm

re: #37 Sharmuta

We should just send obama on a boat out into the middle of the Gulf of Mexico where he can lift up his hands and stop the storm, Amen.

I like the idea (brought up on another thread) - of using Michael Moore as a large sandbag to protect somebody's home, or even, even - as transportation, to float a family out of harm's way!

51 kansas  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:29:47pm

re: #37 Sharmuta

We should just send obama on a boat out into the middle of the Gulf of Mexico where he can lift up his hands and stop the storm, Amen.

Seriously someone should at least ask him. I'm thinking Olberdouche.

52 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:31:04pm

re: #48 Bobibutu

It's the ones who never see it coming who get bit.


True, but those of us who are slow swimmers get bit too. I have really bad luck sometimes. If something rare and obscure can happen, it will be me at the head of the line when it happens.

53 rain of lead  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:31:09pm

Three cheers for Sarah'cuda

Hip Hip Hooray!
Hip Hip Hooray!
Hip hip Hooray

ok I feel better now.
ya'll can now return to whatever it was ya'll were talkin about
:)

54 LoFlyer  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:31:10pm

re: #43 Bobibutu

Higher taxes are a given. Lower higher taxes under McCain -

Palin's track record indicates she's the real deal. Hey when you piss off the Republican good 'ol boys in Alaska - gotta be doing something right.

When Palin was elected Mayor of Wasilla I had my office in Anchorage and a lot of clients in her town. I thot it was way cool a woman had been elected - my clients were very enthusiastic about her. 2 years later it was obvious she was taking names and kickin' @ss. The rest is history.

That bucks me up! You would not believe the liberal politics I face every day. McCain and crew have pulled a fast one on the Dems. They are way behind the curve. Way to go, guys!

55 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:31:13pm

Nice big beach. Where is everybody?

Watching a replay of Obama with Rick Warren. Even more disturbing the second go around. Endless Obama rambling until everyone forgets the question. "Above my pay grade" - priceless.

56 Charles  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:31:22pm

There's a supertanker in there. Barely visible.

57 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:31:45pm

Probably a tanker on the horizon at the far left. Pretty small.

58 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:31:51pm

I'm so glad goddess is over here, rather than near the tail end of the preceeding thread.

/why do I have this thing for pain?

59 Truck Monkey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:32:18pm

re: #1 Noam Sayin'

Don't you people like the beach?

She's ok I guess.

60 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:33:04pm

re: #56 Charles

There's a supertanker in there. Barely visible.

Far left?

61 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:33:08pm

re: #56 Charles

There's a supertanker in there. Barely visible.

Far left?

62 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:33:17pm

There are two birds.

63 LoFlyer  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:33:23pm

re: #56 Charles

There's a supertanker in there. Barely visible.

Don't you love those things? I do!

64 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:34:36pm

re: #54 LoFlyer

That bucks me up! You would not believe the liberal politics I face every day. McCain and crew have pulled a fast one on the Dems. They are way behind the curve. Way to go, guys!

You know, It is so funny that the libs call conservatives stupid. How is we are able to keep outsmarting them, fooling them? Our 2 yo granddaughter has more common sense than the average lib, hell, my Bullmastiff is not that easy to "Fool". It is funny, and scary at the same time.

65 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:34:50pm

When obama is President he will create magical alternative energies and super tankers won't be necessary anymore.

Save the Super Tanker Threads- vote McCain/Palin!

66 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:35:04pm

re: #56 Charles

There's a supertanker in there. Barely visible.

I was just getting ready to complain about that oversight!
/

67 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:35:05pm

re: #62 Ojoe

There are two birds.

NOW I see the second! High up above the other.

68 Charles  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:36:00pm

There's a pretty amazing PBS high definition show on right now about Jerusalem. Very cool aerial photography.

It's on KOCE - channel 50 if you get broadcast HD.

69 kansas  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:36:04pm

re: #67 pre-Boomer Marine brat

NOW I see the second! High up above the other.

The birds look like jet airplanes to me.

70 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:36:41pm

Here is an encouraging tidbit. I'm looking at the front page of Fox and there is not a single mention of Obama above the scroll. [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

71 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:37:13pm

re: #68 Charles

Does it tow the public television anti-Zionist line, or does the production show signs of intelligence?

72 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:37:14pm

re: #66 jcm

I was just getting ready to complain about that oversight!
/

Am I correct that the prohibition of telling the Boss what to post does NOT apply to supertankers?

73 livefreeor die  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:37:16pm

I have already been patiently explaining to other women I know that if we truly demand that women are treated equally, not being offended at John Roberts comment yesterday about her because "It's okay because she's a conservative and pro-life" is condoning sexism. It doesn't matter whether you agree with her politics or not, we shouldn't find his type of comment acceptable. I don't think they're getting it.

74 Truck Monkey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:37:19pm

re: #31 DaddyO

[Link: img518.imageshack.us...]

Are you kidding me? Awesome picture if real. I heard that she can literally throw a bullet through a bears head at 50 yards while breastfeeding a yungun'.

75 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:37:20pm

re: #52 CapeCoddah

True, but those of us who are slow swimmers get bit too. I have really bad luck sometimes. If something rare and obscure can happen, it will be me at the head of the line when it happens.

In all due respect - it sounds like you need an attitude adjustment. When I first started diving (1957) it had some freaky moments. After USN Underwater Swimmers School (Little Creek VA.) 1961 - I was ready for about anything - still wanted my mask on but knew in my heart that a big shark did NOT have my drivers license number tattooed on it's dorsal fin.

76 Intrepid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:37:24pm

First thing that came to mind when I saw the title of this thread:

"I took the road less traveled, and that has made all the difference"

Kudos to John S McCain - you took the road less traveled, and that, sir will make all the difference!

77 kansas  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:37:31pm

re: #70 galloping granny

Here is an encouraging tidbit. I'm looking at the front page of Fox and there is not a single mention of Obama above the scroll. [Link: www.foxnews.com...]


Be better if it were CNN or MSNBC

78 rain of lead  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:37:47pm

hey lookie here, footballs on.
bama vs clemson, cool!
GO CLEMSON!
(vol fan)

79 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:38:08pm

re: #39 MandyManners

Blue sky!

Blue Clear Sky!

80 Charles  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:38:53pm

re: #71 victor_yugo

Does it tow the public television anti-Zionist line, or does the production show signs of intelligence?

Pretty respectful so far. More a travelog than a political commentary.

81 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:39:44pm

re: #58 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'm so glad goddess is over here, rather than near the tail end of the preceeding thread.

/why do I have this thing for pain?

A fitting consort? I thought you were married?

82 markie  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:40:10pm

In another couple terms, it'd be nice to see Palin running for The Big Chair. Barring the usual pitfalls on that path, God forbid.

83 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:40:14pm

re: #80 Charles

Pretty respectful so far. More a travelog than a political commentary.

PBS did something like that on Italy a few years ago- it was beautiful.

84 Charles  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:40:41pm

I don't know who produced this show. The listing says it's supposed to be "Walking with Dinosaurs," which it isn't.

85 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:40:56pm

Stratocumulus

The Cloud Appreciation Society

86 livefreeor die  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:40:58pm

re: #58 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'm so glad goddess is over here, rather than near the tail end of the preceeding thread.

/why do I have this thing for pain?

What's going on over there?

87 Shay4l  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:41:28pm

Follow the path that does not lead to chaos and disaster. Be wise enough to see CONSEQUENCES.

88 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:42:23pm

re: #75 Bobibutu

In all due respect - it sounds like you need an attitude adjustment. When I first started diving (1957) it had some freaky moments. After USN Underwater Swimmers School (Little Creek VA.) 1961 - I was ready for about anything - still wanted my mask on but knew in my heart that a big shark did NOT have my drivers license number tattooed on it's dorsal fin.

LOL, my attitude is ok, thanks for the concern, and your service. It is a family joke that i have fun with myself on occasion. I am not really a big fan of salt water, for swimming. I am not a fan of swimming in general, tho will enjoy a friends pool on a scorching day. The shark thing gets varied reactions when I tell the story. (which is true) People find it odd that a native Cape Codder won't swim in the Atlantic.

89 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:42:39pm

re: #73 livefreeor die

I have already been patiently explaining to other women I know that if we truly demand that women are treated equally, not being offended at John Roberts comment yesterday about her because "It's okay because she's a conservative and pro-life" is condoning sexism. It doesn't matter whether you agree with her politics or not, we shouldn't find his type of comment acceptable. I don't think they're getting it.

One thing that I find almost universal on the left is that while they strongly insist on their freedom of ____________ (fill in the blank) but they seem to be remarkably reluctant to extend that freedom to others.

It can be very hard to get this concept across.

90 Charles  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:42:42pm

Wow. Yad Vashem in high definition. Very intense.

91 LoFlyer  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:42:46pm

re: #64 CapeCoddah

You know, It is so funny that the libs call conservatives stupid. How is we are able to keep outsmarting them, fooling them? Our 2 yo granddaughter has more common sense than the average lib, hell, my Bullmastiff is not that easy to "Fool". It is funny, and scary at the same time.

I am with you CC! The added bonus is the meltdown of the MSM!

92 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:43:11pm

Channel surfing - Barry Goldwater speaking to the RNC 1964 on Cspan. Damning the Dems for weakness. Nothing has changed.

93 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:43:20pm

re: #81 goddessoftheclassroom

A fitting consort? I thought you were married?

Nope. Single nearly 15 years. Not dating.

The cartoon was just a tail-twist. (-:

94 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:43:33pm

re: #84 Charles

I don't know who produced this show. The listing says it's supposed to be "Walking with Dinosaurs," which it isn't.

Walking with Dinosaurs?

95 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:43:49pm

re: #86 livefreeor die

What's going on over there?

I'm just yanking the Cat Goddess' tail.

96 LesLein  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:43:53pm

Is there an aircraft in the picture (upper left)?

97 livefreeor die  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:44:30pm

re: #89 galloping granny

One thing that I find almost universal on the left is that while they strongly insist on their freedom of ____________ (fill in the blank) but they seem to be remarkably reluctant to extend that freedom to others.

It can be very hard to get this concept across.

Yes, abstract thought does seem to throw them some curveballs!

98 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:44:45pm

re: #96 LesLein

Is there an aircraft in the picture (upper left)?

Or a bird. I'm not sure.

99 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:45:09pm

re: #31 DaddyO

[Link: img518.imageshack.us...]

Wow. Just, awesome.

100 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:45:09pm

re: #89 galloping granny

One thing that I find almost universal on the left is that while they strongly insist on their freedom of ____________ (fill in the blank) but they seem to be remarkably reluctant to extend that freedom to others.

It can be very hard to get this concept across.

YEAH YEAH YEAH ,,, where's my burger and fries ?

101 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:45:19pm

re: #88 CapeCoddah

LOL, my attitude is ok, thanks for the concern, and your service. It is a family joke that i have fun with myself on occasion. I am not really a big fan of salt water, for swimming. I am not a fan of swimming in general, tho will enjoy a friends pool on a scorching day. The shark thing gets varied reactions when I tell the story. (which is true) People find it odd that a native Cape Codder won't swim in the Atlantic.

Yeah - well you are so far north what is going to nibble on you?

102 livefreeor die  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:45:38pm

re: #100 sattv4u2

YEAH YEAH YEAH ,,, where's my burger and fries ?

That someone else should pay for...

103 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:46:01pm

re: #91 LoFlyer

I am with you CC! The added bonus is the meltdown of the MSM!

These are people you can stand behind on the left side, keep tapping their right shoulder to make them look, and they keep doing it. In general, libs are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. bbiab, gotta go to the Japanese restaurant to p/u hibachi shrimp for dinner.

104 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:46:07pm

re: #96 LesLein

Is there an aircraft in the picture (upper left)?

re: #98 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Or a bird. I'm not sure.

Upper Left ,, Plane

Upper Right ,,Bird

105 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:46:26pm

re: #104 sattv4u2

Upper Left ,, Plane

Upper Right ,,Bird

Upper U S ,,,,, Italian !

106 Charles  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:46:35pm

Here's the show's web site - it's co-produced with the Israeli Ministry of Tourism:

[Link: www.visionsof.org...]

107 Piglet-U93  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:46:50pm

re: #99 MandyManners

Wow. Just, awesome.

'shopped!

108 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:46:55pm

re: #90 Charles

I would like to go see it

109 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:46:56pm

re: #74 Truck Monkey

Are you kidding me? Awesome picture if real. I heard that she can literally throw a bullet through a bears head at 50 yards while breastfeeding a yungun'.

I've done all my usual Photoshop-detection procedures, and I find no evidence of stitching in the picture.

110 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:47:07pm

re: #96 LesLein

Is there an aircraft in the picture (upper left)?

Yeah,
747-400 United, tail number NUA456 B.

/

111 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:47:09pm

re: #100 sattv4u2

YEAH YEAH YEAH ,,, where's my burger and fries ?

Here you go. Sorry, the dog knocked over the chocolate shake :(

112 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:47:15pm

re: #102 livefreeor die

That someone else should pay for...

Granny was going to Mickey D's like an hour ago !

113 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:48:07pm

re: #93 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Oh, I know--I was twisting back!

114 Piglet-U93  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:48:34pm

re: #109 victor_yugo

I've done all my usual Photoshop-detection procedures, and I find no evidence of stitching in the picture.

Her neck is not that long, reference her other pictures.

115 livefreeor die  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:48:41pm

Team Obama was fairly quiet today. When are they coming out from under the bed?

116 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:49:29pm

re: #115 livefreeor die

Mommy?

117 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:49:37pm

The US has quite the resilient economy, no?

British economy facing 'worst downturn in 60 years'

Germany hit by 'pronounced slowdown': economist

And this comes on the heels of a three percent growth here at home in the last quarter.

118 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:50:47pm

"False security of government paternalism" - B. Goldwater, RNC 1964

119 RTLM  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:50:50pm

re: #115 livefreeor die

Team Obama was fairly quiet today. When are they coming out from under the bed?

They've yet to receive their orders from the Huffers and Kosacks.

120 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:50:57pm

re: #115 livefreeor die

Team Obama was fairly quiet today. When are they coming out from under the bed?

Team McC has OODA looped them with OpSec and more - gotta love military training.

121 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:51:07pm

re: #110 jcm

Yeah,
747-400 United, tail number NUA456 B.

/

LOL!
Wise ass!

122 kansas  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:51:26pm

re: #115 livefreeor die

Team Obama was fairly quiet today. When are they coming out from under the bed?


They are changing their depends. Their usual rabid attack dogchange we can belive in arguments didn't work.

123 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:51:36pm

re: #101 Bobibutu

Yeah - well you are so far north what is going to nibble on you?

You gotta remember, I was a kid when JAWS was filmed HERE! That sticks in a kids mind. We watched several days of filming, including the day the shark broke down and sank. I watched them pull it out with a crane on a barge.
I probably would not have been so fearful if this had not taken place in my home waters, then been taken to see the movie, which is not fit for small children. BTW, we do get great whites here, rare, but we get them. One got stranded in the lagoon on John F'in Kerry's family's private island off Martha's Vineyard a couple of years ago. They finally got it free.

124 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:51:51pm

Charles, if you're interested, I have some shell scripts that will create some interesting images from digital videos.

See here and here for samples.

125 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:52:07pm

re: #110 jcm

Yeah,
747-400 United, tail number NUA456 B.

/

look at the asshole looking out of the 5th window from the back.

126 Truck Monkey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:52:37pm

re: #99 MandyManners

Wow. Just, awesome.

Makes you wonder what else is out there....

127 Shay4l  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:52:38pm

re: #119 RTLM

They've yet to receive their orders from the Huffers and Kosacks.


They're figuring out their attacks for the Sunday morning shows. We'll see tomorrow morning how they're going to try to rip her to shreds for being a successful conservative woman.

128 livefreeor die  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:53:01pm

re: #122 kansas

They are changing their depends. Their usual rabid attack dogchange we can belive in arguments didn't work.

They really blew it yesterday with their initial responses.

129 Truck Monkey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:53:57pm

re: #109 victor_yugo

I've done all my usual Photoshop-detection procedures, and I find no evidence of stitching in the picture.

I've poured over it pretty closely myself

130 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:54:08pm

re: #127 Shay4l

They're figuring out their attacks for the Sunday morning shows. We'll see tomorrow morning how they're going to try to rip her to shreds for being a successful conservative woman.

She is totally unqualified, unlike Barry the Redeemer.

131 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:54:53pm

re: #107 Piglet-U93

'shopped!

For real?

132 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:54:58pm

re: #113 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, I know--I was twisting back!

Actually, I was lying about not dating.

133 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:54:59pm

re: #130 The Shadow Do

She is totally unqualified, unlike Barry the Redeemer.

What? Are you serious, or did you just forget the sarc tag?

134 jwb7605  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:55:26pm

re: #114 Piglet-U93

Her neck is not that long, reference her other pictures.

I agree.
Problem is: photoshops aplenty will appear next week, and oboyoboy will the left wing ever go nuts then.

135 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:55:29pm

re: #133 goddessoftheclassroom

What? Are you serious, or did you just forget the sarc tag?

Super sarc

136 kansas  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:55:47pm

re: #133 goddessoftheclassroom

What? Are you serious, or did you just forget the sarc tag?

Barry the Redeemer is not sarcasm?

137 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:55:52pm

re: #114 Piglet-U93

Her neck is not that long, reference her other pictures.

Was she wearing an open-collared shirt in those photographs?

138 LoFlyer  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:56:03pm

re: #103 CapeCoddah

These are people you can stand behind on the left side, keep tapping their right shoulder to make them look, and they keep doing it. In general, libs are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. bbiab, gotta go to the Japanese restaurant to p/u hibachi shrimp for dinner.

I actually work with some very smart and talented people in a small local government. With affirmative action and the fallout, you can only imagine the demographics. Walked down the main hallway of the jail yesterday and saw forty employees. They were all of the preferred race. I have become the "token white" in my government!
/truly sux!

139 Archimedes  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:56:05pm

re: #79 cliffster

Blue Clear Sky!

Mr. Blue Sky

Youtube Video

140 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:56:47pm

re: #56 Charles

There's a supertanker in there. Barely visible.

I hope she isn't SE of Miami:

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED SEVERAL CLUSTERS OF STORMS...ONE IN FLORIDA BAY SPEEDING TOWARDS MAINLAND MONROE AND ANOTHER STRETCHING THROUGH THE ATLANTIC WATERS ADJACENT TO THE LOWER AND MIDDLE KEYS. THESE STORMS WILL BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING WATERSPOUTS IN ADDITION TO WIND GUSTS IN EXCESS OF 35 KNOTS. ALL STORMS ARE MOVING TO THE NORTHWEST NEAR 25 KNOTS.
WATERSPOUTS CAN EASILY OVERTURN BOATS AND CREATE LOCALLY HAZARDOUS SEAS. YOUR BEST COURSE OF EVASIVE ACTION IF THREATENED BY A WATERSPOUT IS TO MOVE AT A 90 DEGREE ANGLE FROM ITS APPARENT MOVEMENT. SEEK SAFE HARBOR IMMEDIATELY.

They were advising all ships to put everyone in life jackets and turn into the wind a few minutes ago and take whatever other measures necessary to prevent capsizing or flooding. Apparently there was a tremendous gust ahead of this storm.

141 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:56:53pm

re: #130 The Shadow Do

She is totally unqualified, unlike Barry the Redeemer.

She has more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined.
Unless you count Biden running his Senate Office, but we all know the admins run the office.

142 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:57:22pm

re: #123 CapeCoddah

You gotta remember, I was a kid when JAWS was filmed HERE! That sticks in a kids mind. We watched several days of filming, including the day the shark broke down and sank. I watched them pull it out with a crane on a barge.
I probably would not have been so fearful if this had not taken place in my home waters, then been taken to see the movie, which is not fit for small children. BTW, we do get great whites here, rare, but we get them. One got stranded in the lagoon on John F'in Kerry's family's private island off Martha's Vineyard a couple of years ago. They finally got it free.

OK - you get a pass .. ';-)

143 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:57:26pm

re: #135 The Shadow Do

Super sarc

Whew!

144 rawmuse  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:57:28pm

re: #31 DaddyO

[Link: img518.imageshack.us...]

Wow. I have not decided if that pic is an, er, asset. I have way too much truck driver in me.

145 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:57:43pm

re: #135 The Shadow Do

Super sarc

re: #141 jcm

Whew, okay...

146 kansas  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:58:07pm

re: #141 jcm

She has more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined.
Unless you count Biden running his Senate Office, but we all know the admins run the office.

Anybody remember seeing Biden on committees? What a supreme jerk.

147 WayDownSouthInBama  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:58:48pm

I can juuuuust make out the sign on the small blue building. It says "change".

148 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:59:08pm

re: #124 victor_yugo

Cool!

149 Intrepid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:59:28pm

Fox is replaying the Saddleback forum - Barry just gave his mumbo-jumbo about how solving the energy crisis will not be easy, it will take some deep thinking and hard work.

Enter - The Honorable Sarah Palin, Governor of the Great State of Alaska, who has more experience in her little finger in the field of energy than Barry Obama has in his whole advisory team.

Heh. Dems are going to look stoopid on energy once she gets going.

150 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:59:41pm

re: #140 David IV of Georgia

WFAA is reporting a waterspout sighted on Lake Ray Hubbard!

/is he lying or not?

151 jwb7605  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:59:52pm

re: #146 kansas

Anybody remember seeing Biden on committees? What a supreme jerk.

Doesn't matter.
The real question is whether he wears "sensible shoes".

152 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 5:59:53pm

re: #146 kansas

Anybody remember seeing Biden on committees? What a supreme jerk.

Yes. he'd get 15 minutes to question someone. He would talk non-stop for 14 minutes and 53 seconds with a question mark at the end, and then go to the press and say the person was non-responsive to the comittee

153 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:00:00pm

re: #141 jcm

She has more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined.
Unless you count Biden running his Senate Office, but we all know the admins run the office.

Barry makes executive decision daily, like Arugula or not arugula. brown shoes or black. Gray highlights in the hair or no. etc etc

154 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:00:12pm

Pakistani lawmaker defends honor killings

A Pakistani lawmaker defended a decision by southwestern tribesmen to bury five women alive because they wanted to choose their own husbands, telling stunned members of Parliament this week to spare him their outrage.

"These are centuries-old traditions and I will continue to defend them," Israr Ullah Zehri, who represents Baluchistan province, said Saturday. "Only those who indulge in immoral acts should be afraid." The women, three of whom were teenagers, were first shot and then thrown into a ditch.

They were still breathing as their bodies were covered with rocks and mud, according media reports and human rights activists, who said their only "crime" was that they wished to marry men of their own choosing Zehri told a packed and flabbergasted parliament on Friday that Baluch tribal traditions helped stop obscenity and then asked fellow lawmakers not to make a big fuss about it.

/Islam, what's not to like?

155 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:00:39pm

Anyone remember Roberts making Biden look like an ignorant half-wit?

156 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:00:57pm

re: #130 The Shadow Do

She is totally unqualified, unlike Barry the Redeemer.

It's already started:
Scholars question Palin credentials

“I think she is the most inexperienced person on a major party ticket in modern history,” said presidential historian Matthew Dallek.

How he can say this with a straight face, I'll never know.

Check out the last paragraph:


Update: After reading this article, the McCain campaign issued the following statement: "The authors quote four scholars attacking Gov. Palin's fitness for the office of Vice President. Among them, David Kennedy is a maxed out Obama donor, Joel Goldstein is also an Obama donor, and Doris Kearns Goodwin has donated exclusively to Democrats this cycle. Finally, Matthew Dallek is a former speech writer for Dick Gephardt. This is not a story about scholars questioning Governor Palin's credentials so much as partisan Democrats who would find a reason to disqualify or discount any nominee put forward by Senator McCain."
157 livefreeor die  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:01:26pm

re: #146 kansas

Anybody remember seeing Biden on committees? What a supreme jerk.

I remember his "stunning performance" during the Clarence Thomas hearings. I hope McCain and crew do a commercial using some of that footage.

158 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:01:27pm

re: #153 The Shadow Do

Barry makes executive decision daily, like Arugula or not arugula. brown shoes or black. Gray highlights in the hair or no. etc etc

Only after getting permission from Michelle.

159 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:01:54pm

re: #155 pat

Anyone remember Roberts making Biden look like an ignorant half-wit?

why are you insulting ignorant half twits comparing them to Biden?

160 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:01:58pm

re: #114 Piglet-U93

Compare with this, and note her shoulders.

If it is a Fauxtoshop, it's well-done.

161 kansas  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:02:29pm

re: #152 sattv4u2

Yes. he'd get 15 minutes to question someone. He would talk non-stop for 14 minutes and 53 seconds with a question mark at the end, and then go to the press and say the person was non-responsive to the comittee


Was it Alito or Roberts where he questioned the man's judgement 50 times each time pronouncing judgement just a little bit different? A few years ago there was a committee he was chairing and a Republican wanted to ask a question. Like that was gonna happen.

162 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:02:48pm

re: #156 solomonpanting

Someone should cite T. Roosevelt's credentials.

163 jwb7605  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:02:51pm

re: #155 pat

Anyone remember Roberts making Biden look like an ignorant half-wit?

The better question would be "does anybody remember Biden questioning somebody and NOT looking like an ignorant half-wit?"

164 Piglet-U93  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:03:24pm

re: #131 MandyManners

For real?

IMHO, Yes. Based upon the neck length and width which is longer and thinner than her other pictures. This a low resolution jpg only 46,672 bytes. Low resolution is easier to fake (less pixels means less work involved).

165 LesLein  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:03:24pm

It think it was at National Review where someone said Biden only has one year's experience, repeated 35 times.

166 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:03:29pm

re: #154 Killian Bundy

If this is not evil what is?

It must be defeated

/channeling McCain

We must be more humble in our approach

/channeling Obama

167 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:03:43pm

re: #154 Killian Bundy

Pakistani lawmaker defends honor killings


/Islam, what's not to like?

Many stood up in protest, saying the executions were "barbaric" and demanding that discussions continue Monday

.

168 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:04:19pm

re: #156 solomonpanting

“I think she is the most inexperienced person on a major party ticket in modern history,” said presidential historian Matthew Dallek.

/two words: John Edwards

169 livefreeor die  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:05:47pm

re: #167 MandyManners
Many stood up in protest, saying the executions were "barbaric" and demanding that discussions continue Monday

.

Well, I guess it's good that some of them were outraged. At least some progress but not enough to stop those poor women from being slaughtered.

Hey Code Pinkos-how about leaving the cocktail parties alone and protesting some real problems.

170 LoFlyer  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:05:55pm

re: #154 Killian Bundy

Pakistani lawmaker defends honor killings

/Islam, what's not to like?

I truly bless the wisdom of our American fore-fathers in 1776. I would commit suicide before living under Islamic law...

171 livefreeor die  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:06:40pm

re: #168 Killian Bundy

/two words: John Edwards

Did you hear that he just upped his fee for speaking engagements? Talk about living in a bubble.

172 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:06:50pm

re: #164 Piglet-U93

IMHO, Yes. Based upon the neck length and width which is longer and thinner than her other pictures. This a low resolution jpg only 46,672 bytes. Low resolution is easier to fake (less pixels means less work involved).

My wife is a graphic artist and she said some of the same things. Neck is smaller than hers and besides doesn't look right with her head..

173 kansas  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:07:06pm

Scholars Democrat Party Hacks question Palin credentials

174 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:07:09pm

re: #156 solomonpanting

“I think she is the most inexperienced person on a major party ticket in modern history,” said presidential historian Matthew Dallek.

The must be smokin' good shit in academia these days.

Put Obama in that pipe and smoke it, you ivory tower jackasses.

175 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:07:48pm

re: #150 pre-Boomer Marine brat

WFAA is reporting a waterspout sighted on Lake Ray Hubbard!

/is he lying or not?

Looked outside. The waves are about 2 inches. I say lying.

I was looking at the hurricane weather online as I talked on the phone to my dad (it is his birthday today) who's been preparing for the storm. He was complaining that he still hasn't cut up all the fallen trees from Rita yet. He's about 100 miles inland, but the projections show the storm's eye heading straight for him.

176 Gang of One  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:07:53pm

re: #156 solomonpanting

It's already started:
Scholars question Palin credentials

“I think she is the most inexperienced person on a major party ticket in modern history,” said presidential historian Matthew Dallek.

How he can say this with a straight face, I'll never know.

As someone else said on another thread, if the LLL and Odrama campaign really thought that Palin was a bad choice, they'd be giddy as a school girl after her first kiss. Their knickers are so bunched up they have to resort to all sorts of pseudo-intellectual posturing and mumbo jumbo bloviating. The LLL is in a panic, and they are doing what they always do: try to set the narrative and parameters according to their own perverse reasoning -- as if the Republicans and conservatives were supposed to play by their rules. What a joke.

177 Intrepid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:08:08pm

"I was not elected Miss Congeniality in the Senate - I don't know why", said John McCain at the Saddleback Forum, when asked what he had done to go against his party for the good of America.

Oh this is so good to watch in light of Sarah Palin's arrival!

178 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:08:16pm

re: #173 kansas

Scholars Democrat Party Hacks question Palin credentials

/she'll be Hitler before the weekend's over

179 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:08:50pm

The women, three of whom were teenagers, were first shot and then thrown into a ditch.

At least they TRIED to kill them before burying them alive

Baluch tribal traditions helped stop obscenity

Well there you go! The lives of 5 women or no obscenity? It's a no brainer !

180 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:09:53pm

re: #174 jcm

The must be smokin' good shit in academia these days.

Put Obama in that pipe and smoke it, you ivory tower jackasses.

It's obvious the Dems are sending the message that a woman is not qualified for the position. Dumb move.

181 RTLM  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:10:30pm

Joe Biden articulates "judg-YOU-ment" against the military surge 1/11/07 .

Youtube Video

(sans botox)

*breaking* The US has won in Iraq.

182 LoFlyer  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:10:57pm

Later guys! Catch you on the flip side!

183 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:11:17pm

That picture of Gov Palin with the wine glass should e taken with a bit of skepticism. While The Assembly Of God does not prohibit drinking, it is very much discouraged.

184 Piglet-U93  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:11:28pm

re: #160 victor_yugo

I saved this new one. Added to collection. Will persue this with more vigor than the tanker, birds and airplane designated as: 747-400 United, tail number NUA456 B.

185 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:11:41pm

re: #169 livefreeor die

Many stood up in protest, saying the executions were "barbaric" and demanding that discussions continue Monday


Well, I guess it's good that some of them were outraged. At least some progress but not enough to stop those poor women from being slaughtered.

Hey Code Pinkos-how about leaving the cocktail parties alone and protesting some real problems.

And doing it without the halloween costumes.

186 mikeysdca  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:12:22pm

testing

187 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:12:38pm

re: #181 RTLM

Joe Biden articulates "judg-YOU-ment" against the military surge 1/11/07 . [Link: www.youtube.com...]
(sans botox)

*breaking* The US has won in Iraq.

How far in? I can't watch this dreck for 8 whole minutes

188 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:12:40pm

re: #175 David IV of Georgia

Looked outside. The waves are about 2 inches. I say lying.

I was looking at the hurricane weather online as I talked on the phone to my dad (it is his birthday today) who's been preparing for the storm. He was complaining that he still hasn't cut up all the fallen trees from Rita yet. He's about 100 miles inland, but the projections show the storm's eye heading straight for him.

My best wishes for him. My ex and her family is in southern Mississippi. I imagine that my daughter is concerned.

(And I knew you had line-of-sight on the lake. Heh!)

189 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:12:44pm

It is strange that an attorney, such as Biden claims to be, cannot pronounce Judgment.

190 Intrepid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:12:45pm

re: #178 Killian Bundy

/she'll be Hitler before the weekend's over

Nah, Killian, they're still not sure how to deal with her. It's looking good so far. Her campaign guy (somebody Goldfarb?) already came out and made an unequivocal statement about the Pat Buchanan thing. It was posted on the last thread.

Confirmed that she wore a Buchanan badge when he visited, but afterwards she put out a press statement that said something like "just because she wore the badge, it doesn't mean she supports his views". Something like that.

So far, so good, Killian. Rasmussen's showing way better percentages for her than for Biden. WAY better.

191 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:12:51pm

re: #186 mikeysdca

testing

didn't work.

192 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:13:13pm

re: #185 reine.de.tout

And doing it without the halloween costumes.

So you're telling them to put on masks?

193 livefreeor die  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:13:15pm

re: #185 reine.de.tout

And doing it without the halloween costumes.

I felt sorry for the women in Zombie's report who just happened to be wearing pink and got hassled because of those nuts in their pink...whatever they are.

194 Kenneth  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:13:16pm

re: #136 kansas

Barry the Redeemer is not sarcasm?

obams offers secular redemtion for Americas original sin of slavery.

195 kansas  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:13:23pm

re: #180 The Shadow Do

It's obvious the Dems are sending the message that a woman is not qualified for the position. Dumb move.

It's really brilliant to make them attack a woman for not being qualified when they run AABama. Uhhhhh........errrrrrr......anduh.......

196 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:13:25pm

re: #186 mikeysdca

testing

B-

197 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:14:01pm

re: #189 pat

It is strange that an attorney, such as Biden claims to be, cannot pronounce Judgment.

He said it as he would say it while attempting to bamboozle a jury.

198 livefreeor die  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:14:17pm

re: #192 victor_yugo

So you're telling them to put on masks?

More like begging them.

199 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:15:04pm

re: #186 mikeysdca

testing

Didja pass?

200 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:16:05pm

I'm shutting down for the evening.
{goddess}
jcm & David ... *high five*
reine and the other Louisiana lizards ... take care, Godspeed.
G'night all.

201 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:16:06pm

re: #195 kansas

Palin is not polling well, as it stands. Of course, it stands 36 hours after the announcement so there is very little good data. And "not polling well" means women were asked, are you going to vote for McCain because he has a woman VP. I guess it's disappointing that your average woman is too smart to say that she'll vote for someone just because she's a woman?

202 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:16:20pm

re: #192 victor_yugo

So you're telling them to put on masks?

LOL! Like livefreeordie said - more like begging them.

203 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:16:52pm

re: #200 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'm shutting down for the evening.
{goddess}
jcm & David ... *high five*
reine and the other Louisiana lizards ... take care, Godspeed.
G'night all.

Thanks, and goodnight.

204 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:17:39pm

re: #180 The Shadow Do

It's obvious the Dems are sending the message that a woman is not qualified for the position. Dumb move.

They have to know the experience issue will back fire.

205 livefreeor die  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:17:39pm

re: #202 reine.de.tout

LOL! Like livefreeordie said - more like begging them.

I would love to be a fly on the wall as they come downstairs dressed in their pink statue of liberty or whatever costumes and tell their family, "I'll be back around six."

206 Gang of One  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:17:50pm

re: #186 mikeysdca

testing

Pan a bit to the right, and a bit more EQ towards the lower end, and try a little more slap-back, it has too much Cathedral-hall reverb ...

207 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:18:41pm

re: #200 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'm shutting down for the evening.
{goddess}
jcm & David ... *high five*
reine and the other Louisiana lizards ... take care, Godspeed.
G'night all.

Night, pBMb!

208 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:19:09pm

re: #205 livefreeor die

I would love to be a fly on the wall as they come downstairs dressed in their pink statue of liberty or whatever costumes and tell their family, "I'll be back around six."

OMG, yes, the picture in my head of that is hilarious!
I know what my kid thinks of me, and I dress normally.

209 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:19:44pm

re: #205 livefreeor die

I would love to be a fly on the wall as they come downstairs dressed in their pink statue of liberty or whatever costumes and tell their family, "I'll be back around six."

Proper response: "Thanks for the warning."

210 kansas  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:20:53pm

re: #201 cliffster

Palin is not polling well, as it stands. Of course, it stands 36 hours after the announcement so there is very little good data. And "not polling well" means women were asked, are you going to vote for McCain because he has a woman VP. I guess it's disappointing that your average woman is too smart to say that she'll vote for someone just because she's a woman?

Since 98 percent of blacks vote for blacks you would think that some women might vote for a woman. But I leave out that almost no blacks would vote for a black Republican. Remember how Clarence Thomas is so stupid while the Bama is smart.

211 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:22:16pm

re: #168 Killian Bundy

/two words: John Edwards

Has the media discovered that it was an Edwards look-a-like who was with that woman in LA and that the baby was rescued by said woman from abandonment?

//sorta

212 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:22:56pm

re: #210 kansas

Since 98 percent of blacks vote for blacks you would think that some women might vote for a woman. But I leave out that almost no blacks would vote for a black Republican. Remember how Clarence Thomas is so stupid while the Bama is smart.

She probably locked 98.9% of the NRA and hunters up.

213 Archimedes  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:23:30pm

re: #190 Intrepid

Nah, Killian, they're still not sure how to deal with her. It's looking good so far. Her campaign guy (somebody Goldfarb?) already came out and made an unequivocal statement about the Pat Buchanan thing. It was posted on the last thread.

Confirmed that she wore a Buchanan badge when he visited, but afterwards she put out a press statement that said something like "just because she wore the badge, it doesn't mean she supports his views". Something like that.

So far, so good, Killian. Rasmussen's showing way better percentages for her than for Biden. WAY better.

Keep in mind that Palin is largely unknown, so it will take time for people to determine what they think of her. I mean, it takes time to get to know anyone.

214 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:24:12pm

re: #210 kansas

Since 98 percent of blacks vote for blacks you would think that some women might vote for a woman. But I leave out that almost no blacks would vote for a black Republican. Remember how Clarence Thomas is so stupid while the Bama is smart.

Haha, you're right. Although, I think if there was a black man on the Republican ticket and a white man on Democrat ticket, there would be plenty of blacks voting for Republicans just because they had a black man on their ticket. Although, not nearly as many as there would be if Al Sharpton and all his buddies did not try to marginalize him, which Sharpton would.

215 livefreeor die  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:24:34pm

Later all-
time to get the kids in bed and finish up some work.

216 RTLM  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:25:00pm

Palin is way hotter than Hillary.

217 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:25:18pm

re: #204 jcm

They have to know the experience issue will back fire.

I'm not so sure the message is one of inexperience. I heard "how will she do sitting accross from Putin" in the news/commentary today (a Dem talking point I am sure). This is not a play on the experience issue, this is a not so subtle picture of 'just a girl' working international affairs. I have every confidence this bit of nastiness will come to bight them smack in the butt as she gains visibility. This is an attempt to define her as just a girl before she becomes more well known.

218 Silhouette  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:25:25pm

re: #216 RTLM

Palin is way hotter than Hillary.

Damned by feint praise?

219 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:25:49pm

How Michelle Obama’s ‘Savvy Sacrifice’ Helped Her Husband

/crap like this is exactly why I told the ABA where they could shove my membership

220 little boomer  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:26:16pm

Mrs Little Boomer has found out about the Sarah Palin Wallpaper on the computer-she thinks it's another unhealthy Nancy Kerrigan-type obsession.....

221 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:26:26pm

re: #201 cliffster

Palin is not polling well, as it stands. Of course, it stands 36 hours after the announcement so there is very little good data. And "not polling well" means women were asked, are you going to vote for McCain because he has a woman VP. I guess it's disappointing that your average woman is too smart to say that she'll vote for someone just because she's a woman?

Godfrey posted this on the previous thread, but there's no link so I don't know where he got it.


Palin earns positive reviews from 78% of Republicans, 26% of Democrats and 63% of unaffiliated voters.

I love the 63%.

222 kansas  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:27:13pm

re: #214 cliffster

Haha, you're right. Although, I think if there was a black man on the Republican ticket and a white man on Democrat ticket, there would be plenty of blacks voting for Republicans just because they had a black man on their ticket. Although, not nearly as many as there would be if Al Sharpton and all his buddies did not try to marginalize him, which Sharpton would.

I don't know. The way Condi Rice and Clarence Thomas get trashed, Uncle Tom and all that, I think a Black VP pick might not have done any good. For example I think Michael Steele would be a good President, but in other forums the general consensus is he couldn't win his own state being a black conservative. So to be black you gotta be a lib, and to be a woman...same goes.

223 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:27:54pm

re: #212 jcm

She probably locked 98.9% of the NRA and hunters up.

I think they've locked up the states they should win. Heartland is now theirs, don't have to worry about it. Now, it's just Colorado, Ohio, etc.. states which McCain needed to win at least a couple and it looked like BO might get them all. Now it might be way more up in the air.

224 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:28:47pm

re: #220 little boomer

Mrs Little Boomer has found out about the Sarah Palin Wallpaper on the computer-she thinks it's another unhealthy Nancy Kerrigan-type obsession.....

So what if Mrs Little Boomer is right?

225 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:29:06pm

re: #220 little boomer

Mrs Little Boomer has found out about the Sarah Palin Wallpaper on the computer-she thinks it's another unhealthy Nancy Kerrigan-type obsession.....

Mancy ever rescind that restraining order she had on you ?

226 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:29:26pm

re: #221 reine.de.tout

It was from Fox News, Julie Banderas. Her approvals are above Obama, bidn and McCain.

227 Silhouette  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:29:54pm

I'll repeat what I said before, the "only a mayor of a 9000 person town" critique is complaining that AT ONE TIME, she didn't have much experience.

But since then, she has been a governor, a position much more likely to win the presidency than senator, at least for the past couple of generations.

It is akin to pointing out that AT ONE TIME, Obama didn't have a high school diploma; ergo, he isn't qualified.

Hell, AT ONE TIME, he wasn't even potty trained. Presumably, things have changed since that time.

228 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:29:56pm

re: #222 kansas

sad. Nonetheless, still Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and that whole crew of hypocritical "civil rights leaders".

229 Intrepid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:30:38pm

re: #217 The Shadow Do

I'm not so sure the message is one of inexperience. I heard "how will she do sitting accross from Putin" in the news/commentary today (a Dem talking point I am sure). This is not a play on the experience issue, this is a not so subtle picture of 'just a girl' working international affairs. I have every confidence this bit of nastiness will come to bight them smack in the butt as she gains visibility. This is an attempt to define her as just a girl before she becomes more well known.

What I'd like to know is this: How much has she had to deal with the officials in Kamchatka, since it is so very close to the Alaskan borders?

Regardless, she governs a state that borders both Canada and Russia, so she has to have had some international experience in diplomacy.

230 little boomer  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:30:54pm

re: #224 victor_yugo

So what if Mrs Little Boomer is right?

Mrs Boomer is wise enough to indulge my harmless whims....

231 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:31:29pm

I don't think it is right to eat 10 chocolate chip cookies in half an hour , but i did it anyway.

232 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:31:37pm

Inexperience is not so horrible as it is made out to be by some. Inexperience also implies that one is not an insider, not in tight with some good-ol'-boys network, not part of the machine.

Inexperience is a problem, to be sure. But if a person is inexperienced, does that person have the strengths, character, and ability to mitigate this weakness? Are they able to make quick and correct judgments? Are they able to rapidly come up to speed on complex and unfamiliar matters? Are they able to discern when someone is trying to play upon their inexperience and mislead them?

There are two major differences between Tovarishch Sen. Obama's inexperience and Gov. Palin's.

First is the difference between being part of the legislature and being the chief executive.

Second is that a president has to begin being president as soon as the oath is finished. The vice-president has a bit more leisure in learning the protocols of leading the Senate. It is possible that the president could be incapacitated right away, but it isn't probable.

233 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:31:41pm

re: #227 Silhouette

Thank you.

234 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:31:43pm

re: #138 LoFlyer

Hi folks, Just got back. Lo, I hear you. It does indeed suck. Look on the bright side, soon, YOU will be a minority, and beat everyone else for school and work. /

235 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:32:02pm

re: #231 pat

I don't think it is right to eat 10 chocolate chip cookies in half an hour , but i did it anyway.

I agree. I always go for an even dozen

236 sparrowlake  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:32:07pm

re: #216 RTLM

PalinMichael Moore is way slightly hotter than Hillary.


/inducing projectile vomiting

237 Geepers  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:32:11pm

Silhouette (#227),

"I don't think Obama's ever been a mayor of any size city."

Too easy.

238 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:32:17pm

re: #227 Silhouette

Hell, AT ONE TIME, he wasn't even potty trained. Presumably, things have changed since that time.

Given the way he's pissing away the last ounces of HOPE the Democrats have, it doesn't look like things have changed.

239 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:32:40pm

re: #231 pat

I don't think it is right to eat 10 chocolate chip cookies in half an hour , but i did it anyway.

I assume you ate those in conjunction with the required milk?

240 little boomer  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:33:15pm

re: #231 pat

I don't think it is right to eat 10 chocolate chip cookies in half an hour , but i did it anyway.

If it's wrong to eat 10 cc cookies in a half hour-I don't want to be right!

241 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:33:34pm

re: #235 sattv4u2

I agree. I always go for an even dozen

hmmmmm

242 WayDownSouthInBama  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:33:39pm

re: #229 Intrepid

Regardless, she governs a state that borders both Canada and Russia, so she has to have had some international experience in diplomacy.


I believe she negotiated the deal between the U.S. and Canada over a Natural Gas pipeline if I'm not mistaken. That has the Cult of Obama beat.

243 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:33:45pm

re: #239 solomonpanting

I assume you ate those in conjunction with the required milk?

Milk you say? Not Vodka? DAMN !

244 Silhouette  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:33:53pm

re: #229 Intrepid

that borders both Canada and Russia, so she has to have had some international experience in diplomacy.

More than governors of Arkansas and Georgia (the state). But those guys were deemed acceptable to be presidents.

And perhaps one could say even more than those from California, but governors from Texas would have to win in the "international dealings" contest.

245 RTLM  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:34:13pm

re: #218 Silhouette

Damned by feint praise?

I didn't mean it that way. I honestly think she is attractive.

If there's one I would improve/impress upon is her auditory delivery

(sound more Presidential)

246 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:34:44pm

re: #236 sparrowlake

She: "Do you mind if I smoke?"

He: "Ma'am, I don't mind if you burn."

247 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:35:30pm

re: #243 sattv4u2

Milk you say? Not Vodka? DAMN !

I must admit I've yet to have cookies and Vodka.

248 twincitiesgirl  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:35:41pm

A couple of odd headlines found while searching Google today:

Indian outsourcing sector can get badly hit if Palin ever becomes the US President

and for the other side:

Obama promises jobs for America and no tax sops for companies that outsource work out of the country

/bbl

249 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:35:48pm

re: #239 solomonpanting

I assume you ate those in conjunction with the required milk?

Haupia (coconut) ice cream,/ Bows head in shame. After a half pound Santa Fe burger on focaccia and truffle french fries,.

250 Intrepid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:35:56pm

re: #232 David IV of Georgia

Tovarishch?

What does that mean?

/sorry, not up on my terms here

251 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:36:00pm

re: #245 RTLM

I didn't mean it that way. I honestly think she is attractive.

If there's one I would improve/impress upon is her auditory delivery

(sound more Presidential)

Watc her interview w/ Glenn Beck. She's far better-spoken than... the guy who's name I really hate typing right now.

252 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:36:15pm

re: #250 Intrepid

Tovarishch?

What does that mean?

/sorry, not up on my terms here

"Comrade."

253 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:36:30pm

re: #251 victor_yugo

PIMF "Watch"

254 irish rose  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:36:48pm

Beautiful photo Charles, it looks so peaceful there.

255 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:37:16pm

A typo in my comment?

I should go to the liquor store. Y'all want me to grab anything?

256 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:37:38pm

re: #247 solomonpanting

I must admit I've yet to have cookies and Vodka.

have my wifes "homemade cookies" and you'll NEED Vodka

257 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:37:38pm

re: #250 Intrepid

Tovarishch?

What does that mean?

/sorry, not up on my terms here

An endearing Russian term overused by communists: "Comrade".

258 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:38:06pm

Drudge just went with a blood red all caps head line about Democrats joking that hurricane Gustav is a gift from God.

259 sparrowlake  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:38:17pm

re: #247 solomonpanting

I must admit I've yet to have cookies and Vodka.

It should be a nice tall ice-cold glass of vodka. LOL.

260 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:38:33pm

re: #213 Archimedes

Keep in mind that Palin is largely unknown, so it will take time for people to determine what they think of her. I mean, it takes time to get to know anyone.

Yep.

261 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:38:49pm

re: #220 little boomer

Mrs Little Boomer has found out about the Sarah Palin Wallpaper on the computer-she thinks it's another unhealthy Nancy Kerrigan-type obsession.....

My wife thinks the same thing about my wallpaper obsession. She found out I am completely nuts when I heard a plane, grabbed the kids and raced out side in the middle of dinner to see a B-17 and B-24 fly over.

262 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:38:51pm

FNC re-running the town hall meeting(?) at Saddleback Church. That leaves a mark everytime it is shown!

263 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:39:38pm

re: #261 jcm
That's not crazy, it is history.

264 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:39:42pm

re: #248 twincitiesgirl

A couple of odd headlines found while searching Google today:

Indian outsourcing sector can get badly hit if Palin ever becomes the US President

This was enough for me to question the conclusion/sanity of the author:

Indian outsourcing sector is in the decline especially in the IT Sector. The easy money time for the Indian bidy shoppers and custom software constructors is perhaps over as US economy sinks into long term recession tranforming into slow and steady multidecade depression.

265 sparrowlake  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:40:25pm

re: #249 pat

Haupia (coconut) ice cream,/ Bows head in shame. After a half pound Santa Fe burger on focaccia and truffle french fries,.

Is that allowed on Atkins induction?

266 Intrepid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:40:34pm

re: #255 victor_yugo

A typo in my comment?

I should go to the liquor store. Y'all want me to grab anything?

A nice Jamaican Rum, to support them during the aftermath of the storm.

Something with a high proof. But tasty.

267 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:40:40pm

1988 Sarah Palin sports anchor footage.

268 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:40:46pm

re: #256 sattv4u2

have my wifes "homemade cookies" and you'll NEED Vodka

Oh, man, I feel your pain.

269 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:41:02pm

re: #265 sparrowlake

Is that allowed on Atkins induction?

Of course

270 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:41:08pm

re: #266 Intrepid

A nice Jamaican Rum, to support them during the aftermath of the storm.

Something with a high proof. But tasty.

A very good suggestion. I believe I'll take you up on it.

271 WayDownSouthInBama  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:41:18pm

re: #258 MrPaulRevere

Drudge just went with a blood red all caps head line about Democrats joking that hurricane Gustav is a gift from God.

There's a spin off link in this thread too.

272 Gang of One  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:41:30pm

re: #263 pingjockey

Ping, just out of curiosity, are you a sonar or communications guy in the Navy?

273 little boomer  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:41:43pm

re: #261 jcm

My wife thinks the same thing about my wallpaper obsession. She found out I am completely nuts when I heard a plane, grabbed the kids and raced out side in the middle of dinner to see a B-17 and B-24 fly over.

Sa-weeet!

274 Sparkizzy  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:41:56pm

Could someone explain the Palin-Quayle connection? I'm confused.

275 Tamron  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:42:45pm

Allow me to coin a new phrase to describe the Democrat's most recent nightmare:

"PALINOPHOBIA." (A severe illness that nobody likes to talk about, and nobody should admit having because it's worse than a rotten social disease. It's terrible!)

In the next several months, whenever Obama's concocted campaign-crap predictably hits the fan, just make a big deal of putting on a severe frown, shaking your head, wagging a pointy-finger, and making a strong accusation of PALINOPHOBIA! (Tsk, tsk, you really need to see a doctor...)

As an aside, I found thatTHIS WEBSITE gives a striking comparison between the political circumstances of Sarah Palin, and those of Teddy Roosevelt one hundred years earlier.

Stranger things have happened.
.

276 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:42:47pm

re: #264 solomonpanting

So the US economy will, a priori, fall into a slow and steady multidecade depression if Palin becomes president? That sounds like some Pakistani warlord hooey to me.

277 kansas  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:42:55pm

re: #269 pat

Of course


Hold the fries and bread. OK on the burger for Atkins. Double it, in fact.

278 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:43:12pm

re: #261 jcm

My wife thinks the same thing about my wallpaper obsession. She found out I am completely nuts when I heard a plane, grabbed the kids and raced out side in the middle of dinner to see a B-17 and B-24 fly over.

I find a way to look at the sky whenever I hear one of those big radials growling, a big supercharged engine overhead, or a low by-pass jet. Sometimes it's a Corsair or a Mustang or a Shooting Star.

279 Intrepid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:43:13pm

re: #258 MrPaulRevere

Drudge just went with a blood red all caps head line about Democrats joking that hurricane Gustav is a gift from God.

Maybe Matt has finally seen that the gild is off the lily re: Obama? He seemed to have been besotted with him these last couple of months.

280 Silhouette  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:43:46pm

Yes, Palin is attractive, but I don't want to go down that road. By that logic, Obama is better looking that McCain. We're electing a president, not the Star Search spokesmodel.

That being said, I am not one of those who hold an ANTI-attractive bigotry either: those that assume all beauty queens are air heads.

Although being attractive does not mean you will be one iota a better leader, neither does it mean you will be one iota less.

281 wolfie  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:43:51pm

re: #234 CapeCoddah

Hi folks, Just got back. Lo, I hear you. It does indeed suck. Look on the bright side, soon, YOU will be a minority, and beat everyone else for school and work. /

Nope. Not a chance.
Minority ("oppressed") status doesn't depend on numbers. If it did, women wouldn't be given preferential treatment.
And it doesn't depend on degree of oppression. If it did, the Irish and the Jews would be standing in line right behind blacks.
It depends on the mythic narratives of the Left and the whims of Caesar.
White, non-Hispanic, non-disabled, heterosexual males are already a distinct minority. But who cares?!?

282 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:44:04pm

I have reported to executives with many years of experience in my field, and I have reported to executives with virtually no experience in my field. Guess what, there is no correlation between experience and capability. In fact the very worst were the know it alls.

I'll tell you what counts. It is intelligence, energy and ethics.

283 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:44:04pm

re: #274 Sparkizzy

Could someone explain the Palin-Quayle connection? I'm confused.

Well - um - ahh - he was - ahh umm - an unknown and - ah - umm - so - ahh umm - is she.
/

284 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:44:46pm

re: #267 jcm

1988 Sarah Palin sports anchor footage.

cool. Apparently she and her whole family have been sports nuts. In addition to hiking, hunting and fishing, Palin was a basketball player of some repute. The Dems must be scared that this girl might be a magnet for middle class young women who want a healthy role model.

285 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:44:59pm

re: #272 Gang of One
Retired STG1(SW). Sonar tech surface. DDs, FFs, CG.

286 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:45:01pm

re: #278 David IV of Georgia

I find a way to look at the sky whenever I hear one of those big radials growling, a big supercharged engine overhead, or a low by-pass jet. Sometimes it's a Corsair or a Mustang or a Shooting Star.

About 20 years ago my boss owned a F-4U Corsair, it was used in filming Baa Baa Black Sheep.

287 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:45:39pm

re: #285 pingjockey

Retired STG1(SW). Sonar tech surface. DDs, FFs, CG.

Whale abuser!

/ ;-)

288 Sparkizzy  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:45:46pm

re: #283 Bobibutu

LOL. Above his paygrade? :)

289 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:46:04pm
"The landscape is littered with the bodies of those who crossed Sarah"

/Dave Dittman

290 wolfie  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:46:33pm

re: #255 victor_yugo

A typo in my comment?

I should go to the liquor store. Y'all want me to grab anything?

I like that Bacardi Big Apple stuff. And it's not real pricey.
I mean, as long as you're going there anyway.

291 Gang of One  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:46:46pm

re: #285 pingjockey

Retired STG1(SW). Sonar tech surface. DDs, FFs, CG.

Ping, not too sure what the initials mean, but I do understand the sonar part. Thank you for your service. You are a better person than I am for that.

292 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:47:24pm

re: #280 Silhouette

I don't think looks are very high on the list of qualifications for the job.

Has anyone else thought that we may all be better off having Hillary's legs hidden by a pantsuit than revealed by a dress?

293 ciaospirit  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:47:31pm

re: #219 Killian Bundy

How Michelle Obama’s ‘Savvy Sacrifice’ Helped Her Husband

/crap like this is exactly why I told the ABA where they could shove my membership

I didn't know law school prepared you for just about everything!

After leaving Sidley, she has worked as an assistant to Chicago Mayor Richard Daley; headed the Chicago office of the Public Allies charity (setting fund-raising records that still stand today); worked at the University of Chicago, as an associate dean of students; moved on to become vice president of external relations for the university's medical school; and, eventually, after taking a hefty pay cut initially, started making real money.

294 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:47:39pm

re: #289 Killian Bundy

/Dave Dittman

It's even worse, she makes burgers and stew and EATS THEM!

295 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:48:09pm

re: #287 jcm
Why thank you. The Porposises like it though. What the problem maybe is very low frequency stuff below 2.5khz. I don't know what freq, Humpback whales sing at but it is below that. Low frequency sound will travel for hundreds of miles underwater.

296 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:48:15pm

Nobody on the road
Nobody on the beach
I feel it in the air
The summers out of reach..............August 30th, 2008

da summer stay pau.

297 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:48:15pm

Surfing from the comfort of my back yard. I have a crackling fire going in the fire pit; a cold beer by my side.

Every once in a while, I'll throw a rose branch on the flames for the wonderful smell.

298 BlueCanuck  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:48:22pm

re: #281 wolfie

Amen brother. Back in 92 I was in college here in central Ontario. I was sitting in the smoking section playing cards with my friends when a guy and girl come up with video camera and asked us what we thought of the rights of the month thing (can't remember the exact question). My response immediately was, "Any thing I say can and will be used against me because I am a young white male." They were gobsmacked for a few seconds and then they asked me if they could use that statement in their report. I said sure, and turned around to continue kicking my friends butts at cribbage. :)

/priorities you know.

299 kansas  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:48:41pm

re: #283 Bobibutu

Well - um - ahh - he was - ahh umm - an unknown and - ah - umm - so - ahh umm - is she.
/


They both were Vice Presidential picks and one of em was hammered by the media from the day he was selected until......well he still is, usually unfairly IMO. They hope by making this analogy she will be fair game. Maybe Jay Leno is listening. So far no Palin/Hitler analogies.
Watching HBO movie advertisement on for Gitmo anti American movie and now a show called generation kill is on and the GI's are abusing Iraqis...WTF?

300 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:48:56pm

I gotta say, I'm pretty nervous right now. The same way I would be nervous if someone told me they were going to flip a coin, and if it came up heads they would shoot me. The Palin pick all hinges on how she does under fire; for the most part it boils down to how she does against Biden in the VP debate. From what we know, she's ice cold, like a shark. But we don't know that. Once I see her hold her own in that debate, and even better rip him to shreds, I'll feel like good things are at hand.

301 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:49:12pm

re: #288 Sparkizzy

LOL. Above his paygrade? :)

Only time will tell .... however ahh - umm - you - ah - may have hit it.

302 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:49:14pm

re: #267 jcm

1988 Sarah Palin sports anchor footage.

Wow. She's gorgeous.

303 Dasher  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:49:42pm

Here are a couple more;

Yea! McCain is unqualified because he has no Community Organizer experience;
And Pallin is unqualified based on, because, since, certainly, but, you know what I'm saying?

Biden was a daring a pick for Obama, Imagine, the first vice presidential candidate with Tourette's syndrome.

304 Intrepid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:49:44pm

re: #267 jcm

1988 Sarah Palin sports anchor footage.

At least we can see actual work film from Sarah Palin's early career - as opposed to nothing from Barack Obama's early "community organizer" job.

And she could kick his ass in sports knowledge, I'll just betcha!

305 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:49:45pm

re: #276 cliffster

So the US economy will, a priori, fall into a slow and steady multidecade depression if Palin becomes president? That sounds like some Pakistani warlord hooey to me.

If I read the article correctly, the author seems to be saying the US is headed for a long depression, regardless of a future Palin Presidency. He says that if she did become President it would the nail in the coffin for Indian IT outsourcing.

306 Gang of One  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:50:17pm

re: #297 Noam Sayin'

Surfing from the comfort of my back yard. I have a crackling fire going in the fire pit; a cold beer by my side.

Every once in a while, I'll throw a rose branch on the flames for the wonderful smell.

Noam, is there cold weather where you are at, or is a fire pit like a BBQ?

307 RTLM  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:50:28pm

re: #280 Silhouette

White men vote in larger numbers than any other demographic. And physically fit white men generally vote Repulican.

(like me)

308 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:50:37pm

re: #297 Noam Sayin'

I have a crackling fire going in the fire pit

/um, it's like 800 outside

309 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:50:47pm

re: #291 Gang of One
Thank you. People who've not served in the armed forces do their part in this great country too. So, if you're a teacher, fireman, policeman, smallbusiness man, mom, dad, who are doing their best then you too are a good person. I am no better or worse than the next guy. Unless it's Michael Moron!

310 Silhouette  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:50:56pm

re: #281 wolfie

Indeed. When whites are the minority, there will be discussion of minorities unfairly "ruling," as in the former minority-rule of South Africa.

311 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:51:05pm

re: #291 Gang of One

Ping, not too sure what the initials mean, but I do understand the sonar part. Thank you for your service. You are a better person than I am for that.

COMBATANT SHIP CATEGORY
Multi-purpose Aircraft Carrier CV
Multi-purpose Aircraft Carrier CVN
(Nuclear-Propulsion)
Battleship BB
Gun Cruiser CA
Guided Missile Cruiser CG
Guided Missile Cruiser CGN
(Nuclear-Propulsion)
Destroyers DD
Guided Missile Destroyer DDG
Frigate FF
Guided Missile Frigate FFG
Radar Picket Frigate FFR
Frigate (Reserve Training) FFT
Submarine SS
Submarine SSN
(Nuclear-Powered)
Ballistic Missile Submarine SSBN

312 CIA Reject  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:51:39pm

re: #243 sattv4u2

Milk you say? Not Vodka? DAMN !


Fig Newtons and Scotch?

Great if you dunk 'em!

/Col Potter

313 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:51:46pm

re: #305 solomonpanting

If I read the article correctly, the author seems to be saying the US is headed for a long depression, regardless of a future Palin Presidency. He says that if she did become President it would the nail in the coffin for Indian IT outsourcing.

Oh, ok. I didn't read it, just responding to the snippet pasted in.

314 kansas  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:51:50pm

re: #307 RTLM

White men vote in larger numbers than any other demographic. And physically fit white men generally vote Repulican.

(like me)

Hey, I vote Republican. And all my fat friends do too. Course I live in Kansas.

315 JSK1121  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:51:50pm

Anyone seent this video of Don Fowler channeling Michael Moore yet?

[Link: hotair.com...]

316 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:51:58pm

re: #295 pingjockey

Why thank you. The Porposises like it though. What the problem maybe is very low frequency stuff below 2.5khz. I don't know what freq, Humpback whales sing at but it is below that. Low frequency sound will travel for hundreds of miles underwater.

I think the "whale abuse" is the mid-range being tested for littoral areas, looking for those SSKs.

317 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:52:17pm

re: #302 MandyManners

Wow. She's gorgeous.

Yeah, but what's up with that 80's hairstyle? Oh wait..

318 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:52:19pm

re: #306 Gang of One

Noam, is there cold weather where you are at, or is a fire pit like a BBQ?

It's more of a night light. It's still well into the 70s here in Minneapolis.

319 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:52:50pm

Obama expresses his deep concern for Louisiana residents and promises to monitor the storm. While others from his party joke about how "God is on their side" as the storm approaches Louisiana just before the Republican convention is set to begin.

Obama 'Deeply Concerned' About Hurricane Gustav

ABC News' Matt Jaffe and Sunlen Miller report:

At a breakfast with their wives Sens. Barack Obama and Joe Biden expressed their concern that Hurricane Gustav had been upgraded to a category 3 storm.

"We are deeply concerned," Obama told ABC News' Ann Compton at the Yankee Kitchen family restaurant in Boardman, Ohio. "I've instructed my senate staff to monitor the situation closely. Make sure we've contacted both FEMA but also private relief organizations just to make sure that whatever happens people are prepared."

Obama said that they would continue to monitor the storm and would keep Louisiana residents in their minds. "Obviously we're going to be each day seeing what happens and we're praying for New Orleans but we want to make sure that people are making all the necessary precautions." Obama added that he hoped people had learned from Hurricane Katrina that evacuation is key

320 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:52:52pm

re: #291 Gang of One

DD=destroyer
FF=fast frigate
CG=cruiser
The first 2 are primarily antisub ships, the cruiser is normally anti air defense.

321 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:52:59pm

re: #308 Killian Bundy

/um, it's like 800 outside

I'm far enough away that I don't feel the heat. I like the flickering flames.

322 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:53:35pm

re: #296 IslandLibertarian

Nobody on the road
Nobody on the beach
I feel it in the air
The summers out of reach..............August 30th, 2008

da summer stay pau.

Youtube Video

323 wolfie  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:54:09pm

re: #280 Silhouette

Well said, Sil-hokie!

324 ciaospirit  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:54:34pm

re: #297 Noam Sayin'

Surfing from the comfort of my back yard. I have a crackling fire going in the fire pit; a cold beer by my side.

Every once in a while, I'll throw a rose branch on the flames for the wonderful smell.

I'm jealous.

325 Intrepid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:54:35pm

re: #270 victor_yugo

A very good suggestion. I believe I'll take you up on it.

Let me know what you get, and your impression. I enjoy a nice, flavorful rum. And Jamaica certainly knows how to do it!

326 rawmuse  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:54:46pm

re: #317 cliffster

Yeah, but what's up with that 80's hairstyle? Oh wait..

Big hair, baby. I could post a pic of myself from that same time, and the lady lizards would fall out. Albeit, laughing.

I was going thru some old pics and found one of me and Buddy Rich. We look like a couple of serial killers.

327 CIA Reject  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:55:31pm

re: #282 The Shadow Do

I have reported to executives with many years of experience in my field, and I have reported to executives with virtually no experience in my field. Guess what, there is no correlation between experience and capability. In fact the very worst were the know it alls.

I'll tell you what counts. It is intelligence, energy and ethics.

Thomas Edison once said that if he knew what he was doing he would have never invented the light bulb because he would have know that it was "impossible".

328 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:56:26pm

re: #300 cliffster

I strongly suspect it is Biden who is nervous right now. His overstuffed ego is badly threatened by the female moose hunter. From what I have seen Palin will sleep like a baby before their debate.

329 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:56:35pm

re: #316 jcm
Those are damn scary. We were worried about the Sovs and all their damn nuke boats and lo and behold all these other little bastards went out and built really good diesel subs! A diesel sub on batteries is damn near impossible to track. The only thing moving is the propellor shaft. Electric motors for propulsion. Granted they have to come up to run the diesels for recharging the batteries, but they are really good for choke points. Like the Strait of Hormuz.

330 little boomer  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:56:36pm

re: #326 rawmuse

Big hair, baby. I could post a pic of myself from that same time, and the lady lizards would fall out. Albeit, laughing.

I was going thru some old pics and found one of me and Buddy Rich. We look like a couple of serial killers.

I thought Buddy was a serial killer.....

331 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:56:53pm

re: #321 Noam Sayin'

I'm far enough away that I don't feel the heat. I like the flickering flames.

Don't play with the fire or you'll pee in your sleep tonight.

332 mikalm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:56:54pm

re: #154 Killian Bundy

Un-frickin-believable. The seemingly bottomless human capacity for evil and cruelty, and the ability of people to rationalize it, never ceases to astound me.

333 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:56:57pm

Lots of chaos and unpleasantness on metro buses tonight.

/I'm guessing the convention rerouting isn't helping

334 wolfie  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:57:42pm

re: #298 BlueCanuck

:D Good for you, BC!

PS- I am actually a she-wolf!

335 WayDownSouthInBama  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:58:03pm

Which ONE of the following candidates lives -- McCain,Palin,Obama,or Biden -- would you say is closer to to the life of the average American?

The Left can whine about Palin all they want. Far more Americans live's resemble that of Sarah Palin than resemble any of the other three. If I had to make a choice of the one person in this campaign that I believed would understand the needs of the average American,it would be Palin. My thinking is that Palin represents a REAL CHANGE from what we have seen in D.C for far too long. A change that is long overdue.

336 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:58:16pm

re: #327 CIA Reject

Thomas Edison once said that if he knew what he was doing he would have never invented the light bulb because he would have know that it was "impossible".

Bill Lear invented the car radio... he didn't know radio tuning coils could not be made that small. His company eventually be came Motorola.

337 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:58:19pm

re: #326 rawmuse

Big hair, baby. I could post a pic of myself from that same time, and the lady lizards would fall out. Albeit, laughing.

I was going thru some old pics and found one of me and Buddy Rich. We look like a couple of serial killers.

Hmm, I could look at a picture from then and I would look, oh, a little younger. And a little skinnier. The hair? One inch long then, one inch long now. Clothes? Unstylish then, unstylish now. I like to think "classic".

338 rawmuse  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:58:23pm

re: #330 little boomer

I thought Buddy was a serial killer.....

Come to think of it, my room mate did go missing mid-tour....

339 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:58:56pm

re: #333 Killian Bundy
Are you in St Paul?

340 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:59:06pm

re: #279 Intrepid

From what I've been able to gather, Andrew Brietbart runs the site about half the time. Drudge himself is a long time critic of the GOP. I suspect his Obama infatuation was a way of poking a stick in their eye, if you will.

341 Gang of One  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:59:11pm

re: #309 pingjockey

I am actually about to embark on a career as a teacher of High School English and history here in Paramus, NJ.

JCM, thanks for the info ... still an eye-full for a civvy like me!

Noam, I see ... well enjoy that sudski, as I am about to indulge in a martooni. Tomorrow is a double-whammy family simcha -- nephew's Bar Miyzvah and cousin's wedding. It will be a rather interesting day, neh?

342 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:59:36pm

re: #328 The Shadow Do

I strongly suspect it is Biden who is nervous right now. His overstuffed ego is badly threatened by the female moose hunter. From what I have seen Palin will sleep like a baby before their debate.

Shit, I hope you're right. And yeah, it sure seems that way.

343 Silhouette  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 6:59:42pm

re: #319 reine.de.tout

LOL! Obama called FEMA to make sure they're prepared. Define: hubris.

Like FEMA people were sitting around playing bridge, when the call came through from Obama. "What? Yeah, fine, we'll get on it. (click) Game's over, folks. I guess we'd better get hopping."

It isn't his job, his area of expertise, or in any way under his authority. But he has "contacted" everyone to make sure they're doing it right, and he will likewise take credit for everything done well (I made sure of it!), and still criticize for anything done with less than perfection.

344 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:00:02pm

re: #299 kansas

They both were Vice Presidential picks and one of em was hammered by the media from the day he was selected until......well he still is, usually unfairly IMO. They hope by making this analogy she will be fair game. Maybe Jay Leno is listening. So far no Palin/Hitler analogies.
Watching HBO movie advertisement on for Gitmo anti American movie and now a show called generation kill is on and the GI's are abusing Iraqis...WTF?

Having lived and worked in Alaska and remember well when she was elected as Mayor of Wasilla - I think Sara Barracuda will gut all comers with a smile. She is tough. And has the track record to prove it.

As the old Alaskan saying goes "if you aren't living on the edge, you're taking up too much room."

Living in Alaska is on the edge. Raised in Alaska - and gittin' out there (fishing - hunting - recreating - is exceptional. They don't have a clue who or what they are messin' with. Her "clue bat' is awesome!

345 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:00:31pm

re: #339 pingjockey

Are you in St Paul?

/yep, listening to a radio scanner

346 sparrowlake  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:00:32pm

re: #328 The Shadow Do

I strongly suspect it is Biden who is nervous right now. His overstuffed ego is badly threatened by the female moose hunter. From what I have seen Palin will sleep like a baby before their debate.

Anything less than annihilation of Palin would be a total loss for Biden.

347 Tamron  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:01:49pm

re: #292 David IV of Georgia

I don't think looks are very high on the list of qualifications for the job.

Has anyone else thought that we may all be better off having Hillary's legs hidden by a pantsuit than revealed by a dress?


There was once an early "Clinton Joke", that went something like this:


Q: Why doesn't Bill want Hillary to wear a skirt?

A: Because he doesn't want the public to see that her testicles are bigger than his...
.

348 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:02:02pm

re: #341 Gang of One
See, there you go. Teacher is an awesome job. Bar Mitzvah and Wedding the same day.That sounds like fun. Never been to a Bar Mitzvah. Coming of age party/rite of passage for 13 yr old Jewish boys, right?

349 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:02:09pm

From the Desk of Karl Rove..
McCain ! you magnificent bastard!
-Karl

350 BlueCanuck  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:02:18pm

re: #334 wolfie

DOH! I knew I misplaced my LGF gender score card again.

/now where did I put it *mutter mutter*

351 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:02:53pm

re: #345 Killian Bundy
People being unruly on da bus? Not good.

352 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:03:00pm

re: #329 pingjockey

Those are damn scary. We were worried about the Sovs and all their damn nuke boats and lo and behold all these other little bastards went out and built really good diesel subs! A diesel sub on batteries is damn near impossible to track. The only thing moving is the propellor shaft. Electric motors for propulsion. Granted they have to come up to run the diesels for recharging the batteries, but they are really good for choke points. Like the Strait of Hormuz.

I've read a few are coming online using the Walter system, substantially extending underwater range.

353 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:03:21pm

re: #351 pingjockey

People being unruly on da bus? Not good.

/yeah, that almost never happens.

354 Maximu§  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:03:23pm

re: #349 HoosierHoops

From the Desk of Karl Rove..
McCain ! you magnificent bastard!
-Karl

Yeah, McCains VP pick was a kick-in-the-balls for the Democrats, I can't see them recovering.

355 Quintus_Arius  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:03:44pm

Palin? Of course. Great woman. Just as good as my daughter. If women don't see themselves in this gal, they have led a life that has been short-changed. Sorry about that...but reality is what it is.

356 wolfie  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:03:56pm

re: #304 Intrepid

I just can't help remembering that once upon a time there was another public figure who started out as a sportscaster. A down home, common sense type like Palin seems to be.
I know it's silly wishful thinking, but who knows? One day she could be as fine a leader as Reagan.

357 Intrepid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:04:13pm

re: #275 Tamron

That Is Gold. Sarah Palin - the modern day Teddy Roosevelt!

And I have been wondering this all day - with all the furor about "Washington Insiders" and how they have led us down an awful and destructive path all these years, why are not more people excited to see a true "Washington OUTSIDER" on the Republican ticket?

A true reformer - one who took on her own party and WON! Who kicked out the corrupt bums who had dominated Alaskan politics for years?!

358 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:04:17pm

Palin is gonna have Plugs stuffed head on her trophy wall after their debate.

359 wolfie  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:05:00pm

re: #307 RTLM

White men vote in larger numbers than any other demographic. And physically fit white men generally vote Repulican.

(like me)

Thank God for you all!
Yeah, I mean it.

360 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:05:17pm

thoughts and prayers from the uk to any fellow lizards on the gulf coast.
gustav looks horrendous. good luck folks. stay safe.

361 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:05:31pm

re: #344 Bobibutu

Having lived and worked in Alaska and remember well when she was elected as Mayor of Wasilla - I think Sara Barracuda will gut all comers with a smile. She is tough. And has the track record to prove it.

As the old Alaskan saying goes "if you aren't living on the edge, you're taking up too much room."

Living in Alaska is on the edge. Raised in Alaska - and gittin' out there (fishing - hunting - recreating - is exceptional. They don't have a clue who or what they are messin' with. Her "clue bat' is awesome!

Hell yeah!

362 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:05:33pm

re: #358 pingjockey

Palin is gonna have Plugs stuffed head on her trophy wall after their debate.

Gives "trophy wife" a whole new meaning, huh?

363 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:05:41pm

re: #358 pingjockey

Palin is gonna have Plugs stuffed head on her trophy wall after their debate.

Make a great hat rack.

364 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:05:53pm

re: #354 Maximu§

Yeah, McCains VP pick was a kick-in-the-balls for the Democrats, I can't see them recovering.

How is your son doing? I think of your family often...
Jordan will be home for thanksgiving..

365 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:06:07pm

re: #352 jcm
Qhen I retired the Germans, Danes, and a few others had AIPS actually installed on some boats.

366 CIA Reject  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:06:09pm

re: #336 jcm

Bill Lear invented the car radio... he didn't know radio tuning coils could not be made that small. His company eventually be came Motorola.

The Wright Bros. also didn't know that it was "impossible" to make an engine block out of aluminum.

And of course there was this guy.

Real Americans don't like to be told "it can't be done".

367 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:07:13pm

re: #356 wolfie

I just can't help remembering that once upon a time there was another public figure who started out as a sportscaster. A down home, common sense type like Palin seems to be.
I know it's silly wishful thinking, but who knows? One day she could be as fine a leader as Reagan.

When McCain retires in 2012 - she will be the nominee. 48 years old. 17 years of experience - and will be elected the first woman as POTUS.

368 Silhouette  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:07:14pm

I met a lady today who was refugeeing from Gustav. She said her husband was in charge of an LA power co-op, so I expect he'll be very busy for awhile and she will not be getting home soon.

369 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:07:34pm

re: #363 jcm
Mwahahahaha! With that cheesy grin intact. Hope she knows a good taxidermist!

370 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:07:35pm

re: #366 CIA Reject

The Wright Bros. also didn't know that it was "impossible" to make an engine block out of aluminum.

And of course there was this guy.

Real Americans don't like to be told "it can't be done".

The impossible just takes a litter longer.....

371 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:07:49pm

re: #356 wolfie

I just can't help remembering that once upon a time there was another public figure who started out as a sportscaster. A down home, common sense type like Palin seems to be.
I know it's silly wishful thinking, but who knows? One day she could be as fine a leader as Reagan.

wow, possible.

372 Geepers  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:07:55pm

sparrowlake (#346),

Anything less than annihilation of Palin would be a total loss for Biden.

Exactly.

And Biden's endless bloviating just ain't made for debating. By the time he finally gets to the question topic his time'll be up.

373 DistantThunder  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:08:02pm

re: #280 Silhouette

Yes, Palin is attractive, but I don't want to go down that road. By that logic, Obama is better looking that McCain. We're electing a president, not the Star Search spokesmodel.

That being said, I am not one of those who hold an ANTI-attractive bigotry either: those that assume all beauty queens are air heads.

Although being attractive does not mean you will be one iota a better leader, neither does it mean you will be one iota less.

I find Obama unattractive. - the big ears, the pencil neck, the general geekiness is a huge turn off.

374 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:08:11pm

agree with the positive comments about Palin - from here across the pond in the uk , looks like mccain has done the business. its a slam dunk and caught the dems completely off guard.

the kos kids are reeling over it - some of the comments are friggin unbelievable over there. they ARE rattled. big time.

375 WayDownSouthInBama  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:08:30pm
Obama added that he hoped people had learned from Hurricane Katrina that evacuation is key

Yes,we learned that when we saw those buses under water.

376 Maui Girl  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:08:31pm

re: #20 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It was probably a piece of coconut palm frond. Lots of coconut palms on Kauai and the fronds are very sand-papery!

It was probably a snorkler!

377 mikalm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:09:41pm

re: #326 rawmuse

I was going thru some old pics and found one of me and Buddy Rich. We look like a couple of serial killers.

Ever heard this recording of Buddy Rich berating his band? (LINK NOT WORK-FRIENDLY)

378 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:09:51pm

Does anyone have a satellite image of Gustave?

379 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:09:52pm

This evening will be a cultural rendezvous with Iona Pear and the Hot Club of Hulaville
Aloha attire recommended....and I'll be surrounded by flaming "Progressives".

Power to the Correct People!

380 DistantThunder  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:10:00pm

re: #375 WayDownSouthInBama

Yes,we learned that when we saw those buses under water.

Does Obama know how to drive? Or is he one of those big city liberals that does not drive. Anything close to Pres. Bush and his pick-up truck?

381 Gang of One  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:10:04pm

re: #348 pingjockey

See, there you go. Teacher is an awesome job. Bar Mitzvah and Wedding the same day.That sounds like fun. Never been to a Bar Mitzvah. Coming of age party/rite of passage for 13 yr old Jewish boys, right?

Yes. Boys and also girls are called up to read from the Prophets, a portion which is called the Haftorah, a part of the liturgy that was created when the during the Babylonian exile the Jews were forbidden to read the weekly portion of the Torah. So, what the rabbis did was select a portion of the latter writing s of the prophets that were directly [or sometimes indirectly] connected to that week's Torah parsha, or portion.

Anyway, yes, it is a coming-of-age ritual. It's a great deal of fun and we all dance, eat, drink and revel in the fact that we are survivors! I will drink a toast to you and all my fellow lizardoidnics. L'Chaim!

382 ciaospirit  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:10:26pm
The evacuation of New Orleans becomes mandatory at 8 a.m. Sunday along the vulnerable west bank of the Mississippi River, and at noon on the east bank. Nagin called Gustav the storm of the century and told residents to "get your butts out of New Orleans now."
383 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:10:50pm

re: #363 jcm

Make a great hat rack.

Is it just me or is that a pure BS expression? Another empty suit!

384 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:11:23pm

re: #378 MandyManners

Does anyone have a satellite image of Gustave?

NOAA

385 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:11:26pm

Dude from FEMA says he sees a large difference from Katrina. No shit. The adults are in charge. FEMA cannot go in, by law, until a governor asks for help in writing! Blanco didn't and Nagin didn't ask her and shit happened. It was not FEMAs fault.

386 Maximu§  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:11:49pm

re: #364 HoosierHoops

How is your son doing? I think of your family often...
Jordan will be home for thanksgiving..

Tell him I said Hi, we got a letter yesterday and we all wrote back today. Matt said their up at 4 and go to bed at 10, but the DI's don't yell at him much, cause I told him hows things are in bootcamp.

He said he's well fed and their making him eat twice to bulk him up..I bet I won't even recognize him when he comes home.

387 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:11:54pm

re: #381 Gang of One

The Thomas Crown Affair is on tonight.

388 DistantThunder  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:12:10pm

re: #382 ciaospirit

Ah, that Nagin - what a class act/sarc.

His chocolate city is turning to mud AGAIN - along with his name - but tragedies are always good news for liberals right, Mike?

389 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:12:17pm

[Link: www.ssd.noaa.gov...] There ya go Mandy.

390 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:12:26pm

The koskids are 24/7 all anti-Palin all the time.
The diaries over there are unbelievable!

All they quote are left wing papers, which have editorials against her.

I cannot wait until the debate, I think she will do very well against Biden.
Look for him to use the I know Senator Clinton and you are no Senator Clinton.
I hope if he says that she says, dang Biden you can't come up with something original?

391 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:12:32pm

re: #381 Gang of One
Thank you. Congrats to your nephew and the wedding party!

392 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:12:56pm

re: #384 jcm

NOAA

Thanks!

393 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:13:02pm

re: #378 MandyManners

Does anyone have a satellite image of Gustave?

[Link: www.goes.noaa.gov...]

You can also see Hanna in the shot.

I like weather.gov because they have no ads—everything loads quickly.

394 ciaospirit  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:13:23pm

John and Sarah on their way!

ST. PAUL, Minn. - Likely GOP presidential nominee John McCain and his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, are traveling to Mississippi on Sunday to check on people getting prepared for Hurricane Gustav.

Their trip comes just as delegates are preparing for the Republican National Convention, which begins Monday

395 BlueCanuck  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:13:25pm

re: #378 MandyManners

Here you go Mandy.

396 nightintheruts  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:13:29pm

hey...that can't be a real beach...

There are no tourists feeding the seagulls and pissing off the locals...

oh, and like many others, for the first time
I just contributed to the candidate.

397 Maximu§  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:13:32pm

re: #356 wolfie

I just can't help remembering that once upon a time there was another public figure who started out as a sportscaster. A down home, common sense type like Palin seems to be.
I know it's silly wishful thinking, but who knows? One day she could be as fine a leader as Reagan.

Amen Princess. Reagan was my Commander-in-Chief.

398 DistantThunder  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:13:42pm

re: #390 Typicalwhitey

The koskids are 24/7 all anti-Palin all the time.
The diaries over there are unbelievable!

All they quote are left wing papers, which have editorials against her.

I cannot wait until the debate, I think she will do very well against Biden.
Look for him to use the I know Senator Clinton and you are no Senator Clinton.
I hope if he says that she says, dang Biden you can't come up with something original?

Saw the video where she mentions that Biden was against the oil pipeline built 30 years ago in Alaska - and he's still on the wrong side of the issue.

399 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:13:48pm

re: #371 The Shadow Do

wow, possible.

well its about time america had its version of Maggie Thatcher. boy did she clear out the cobwebs in the UK big time. and dare i say it - without Thatcher, i really dont think Reagan would have been so anti-Soviet - she was one hell of a support for him. (and vice versa of course... )

the land of the free now has one of the highest corporation tax rates in the developed world - and meanwhile , eastern europe has undergone a radical flat tax revolution. yes - i kid you not - FLAT TAX.. look it up on wikipedia. you'd be amazed at just how many eastern european countries , including Russia, of all places, now have flat tax.

Palin is the ticket to shake things up big time. and about time.

Compared to Palin , Obama's "change" agenda is a damp squip - what "change" is he proposing - oh right. more government. more socialism...

sorry obama - we tried that in europe - and it failed big time.

400 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:13:49pm

re: #385 pingjockey

Dude from FEMA says he sees a large difference from Katrina. No shit. The adults are in charge. FEMA cannot go in, by law, until a governor asks for help in writing! Blanco didn't and Nagin didn't ask her and shit happened. It was not FEMAs fault.

Nor Bush.

401 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:14:01pm

re: #385 pingjockey

Dude from FEMA says he sees a large difference from Katrina. No shit. The adults are in charge. FEMA cannot go in, by law, until a governor asks for help in writing! Blanco didn't and Nagin didn't ask her and shit happened. It was not FEMAs fault.

Am I the only one who's thought that Nagin wanted shit to get bad in order to blame Pres. Bush and white people in general?

402 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:14:12pm

re: #397 Maximu§

Amen Princess. Reagan was my Commander-in-Chief.

I had his predecessor.

403 DistantThunder  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:14:15pm

re: #394 ciaospirit

John and Sarah on their way!

Where' Obama - cowering somewhere?

404 CIA Reject  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:14:17pm

re: #370 jcm

The impossible just takes a litter longer.....

You got it!

405 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:14:31pm

re: #344 Bobibutu

Having lived and worked in Alaska and remember well when she was elected as Mayor of Wasilla - I think Sara Barracuda will gut all comers with a smile. She is tough. And has the track record to prove it.

As the old Alaskan saying goes "if you aren't living on the edge, you're taking up too much room."

Living in Alaska is on the edge. Raised in Alaska - and gittin' out there (fishing - hunting - recreating - is exceptional. They don't have a clue who or what they are messin' with. Her "clue bat' is awesome!


I heard her folks have a bumper sticker:
Vegatarian: Old Indian word for bad hunter lol

406 paint-right  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:14:34pm

re: #381 Gang of One

The cool thing I never knew about the bar and bat mitzvahs was the mitzvah part. The kids take on a project which is often very creative and does a great good. Now these good deeds are often the basis for an articles in the local paper and some of these kids do some wonderful things. What a wonderful tradition.

407 Gang of One  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:14:44pm

re: #387 MandyManners

The Thomas Crown Affair is on tonight.

How do I tune in? I mean, I only have miserable low-end cable ...

408 ciaospirit  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:14:46pm

re: #385 pingjockey

Dude from FEMA says he sees a large difference from Katrina. No shit. The adults are in charge. .

Jindal!

409 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:14:51pm

re: #281 wolfie

I stand corrected. You are absolutely right.

410 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:14:56pm

re: #393 David IV of Georgia

[Link: www.goes.noaa.gov...]

You can also see Hanna in the shot.

I like weather.gov because they have no ads—everything loads quickly.


Thanks!

Are those outter bands already over Florida?

411 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:15:15pm

re: #399 buzzdroid

From your fingers to Gods ear!

412 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:15:21pm

re: #401 MandyManners

Am I the only one who's thought that Nagin wanted shit to get bad in order to blame Pres. Bush and white people in general?

There are at least two of us! And I imagine those who know the law a few more.

413 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:15:42pm

re: #395 BlueCanuck

Here you go Mandy.


Thanks!

Is that infra-red?

414 Dasher  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:16:04pm

re: #345 Killian Bundy

/yep, listening to a radio scanner

A few twin citieans about... Woodbury here.

415 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:16:36pm

re: #341 Gang of One

I am actually about to embark on a career as a teacher of High School English and history here in Paramus, NJ.

JCM, thanks for the info ... still an eye-full for a civvy like me!

Noam, I see ... well enjoy that sudski, as I am about to indulge in a martooni. Tomorrow is a double-whammy family simcha -- nephew's Bar Miyzvah and cousin's wedding. It will be a rather interesting day, neh?

Welcome to the profession!

416 Gang of One  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:17:02pm

re: #391 pingjockey

Thank you. Congrats to your nephew and the wedding party!

Sir!

/bows head and upper body

417 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:17:13pm

re: #404 CIA Reject

You got it!

I remember reading about Seabees when I was a kid building those island airfields in WWII. Simply incredible.

418 wolfie  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:17:18pm

re: #355 Quintus_Arius

Palin? Of course. Great woman. Just as good as my daughter. If women don't see themselves in this gal, they have led a life that has been short-changed. Sorry about that...but reality is what it is.

My daughter will turn 18 on November 1st. Her first chance to vote!
She told me she's glad she was already for McCain before he picked his VP. Otherwise she says she wouldn't be able to trust her judgment about the POTUS vote. She is SO excited about Palin!

419 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:17:34pm

re: #397 Maximu§
Mine to. Had to put up with Carter, the RWR, Bush, then Clintoon.
Best retirement gift I ever saw, an E-9 Master Chief Bo'suns mate was retiring in Orlando. Well he didn't want the ceremony on shore, so he came over to my missle tracking ship at Cape Canaveral for his ceremony. He recieved a hand written letter from RWR thanking him for his 30 years of service. It was great. He carried it around with him at the reception showing it off.

420 Geepers  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:17:46pm

buzzdroid (#399),

Too bad you weren't around last night. We had some dope trying to tell us that The Iron Lady was a dotty old biddy that no one feared.

421 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:17:47pm

re: #399 buzzdroid

How do we get you to the States to knock some sense into our lefty goofballs?

422 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:18:00pm

re: #378 MandyManners

Does anyone have a satellite image of Gustave?

Drudge is good one - he always links to satt images, radar and a ton of stuff anytime a hurricane is due to hit the U.S.

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

if you want to track the storm overlayed on a google map this is a good one to visit:

[Link: www.ibiseye.com...]

423 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:18:20pm

re: #400 Bobibutu
Quite right. Forgot to mention that.

424 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:18:30pm

re: #412 Bobibutu

Wanted shit to get bad so he could get some fame. And yeah talking smack about Bush and how white people hate nawliners was a plus. But mostly he liked the fame.

425 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:19:24pm

re: #403 DistantThunder

Where' Obama - cowering somewhere?

Sitting around with his staff of thousands asking "what now George?"

426 Maximu§  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:19:26pm

re: #402 jcm

I had his predecessor.

Now Carter was POTUS when I was in bootcamp.....and sometimes we slept in our tracks during the afternoon (you know how it is) and life was pretty good, but soon after Reagan was sworn in...s**T hit the fan!

People started screaming louder and we started training harder...the vacation was over.

427 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:19:43pm

re: #405 Typicalwhitey

I heard her folks have a bumper sticker:
Vegatarian: Old Indian word for bad hunter lol

Ha - probably so. You really have to be ignorant not to be able to take game and subsist on that only in Alaska - and well, the Oil bonus check helps out (~ $1K per person)

428 paint-right  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:20:01pm

re: #395 BlueCanuck

Here you go Mandy.

Wow..that's like a scary two-eyed monster.

429 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:20:26pm

re: #408 ciaospirit

Jindal!

dead right . bobby jindal is in charge.

900 buses tanked up and ready to go right now.

430 BlueCanuck  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:20:44pm

re: #413 MandyManners

Yes it is. I find the IR shots are better for looking at cloud cover from that website. Here's the combo version of the same shot. The visible shot shows nothing right now because of lack of sunlight over the area.

431 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:21:00pm

re: #407 Gang of One

How do I tune in? I mean, I only have miserable low-end cable ...

Lifetime channel.

432 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:21:25pm

re: #426 Maximu§

Now Carter was POTUS when I was in bootcamp.....and sometimes we slept in our tracks during the afternoon (you know how it is) and life was pretty good, but soon after Reagan was sworn in...s**T hit the fan!

People started screaming louder and we started training harder...the vacation was over.

I got out during Carter, pay cuts, etc... main thing was my shot at PJ school got blown away with my knee.

433 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:21:43pm

re: #412 Bobibutu

There are at least two of us! And I imagine those who know the law a few more.

Make that 3

434 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:22:01pm

re: #426 Maximu§
Me too. The Sovs could have walked into Western Europe if they'd wanted to. The only reason I figure they didn't was the Nuke threat. God knows they had us outnumbered everywhere.

435 Cognito  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:22:25pm

Charles,

Shocking candid video of Democratic Chairman laughing about Hurricane Gustav (scores dead so far) and saying it shows God favors the left:

Only watch it if you want your socks blown off.

436 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:22:27pm

re: #386 Maximu§

Tell him I said Hi, we got a letter yesterday and we all wrote back today. Matt said their up at 4 and go to bed at 10, but the DI's don't yell at him much, cause I told him hows things are in bootcamp.

He said he's well fed and their making him eat twice to bulk him up..I bet I won't even recognize him when he comes home.

I'll never forgot how bulked up jordan was when he got off the bus from Iraq.. I tease him that he can now move the old man out of the paint.. We are so proud of him..
We have not received final word on the 3/5th Marines deployment in Jan...Well actually..The families do kindof know..but no one broadcasts troop movements..
-Proud Marine Parent

437 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:22:54pm

re: #401 MandyManners

Am I the only one who's thought that Nagin wanted shit to get bad in order to blame Pres. Bush and white people in general?

re: #400 Bobibutu

re: #385 pingjockey

Dude from FEMA says he sees a large difference from Katrina. No shit. The adults are in charge. FEMA cannot go in, by law, until a governor asks for help in writing! Blanco didn't and Nagin didn't ask her and shit happened. It was not FEMAs fault.

Nor Bush.

This time it seems Bush has requested the cities and states to go ahead and ask beforehand.

I always wondered what the problem was. Half the MSM newscasters were begging the governor or mayor to call the President and they ... just ... waited ... .

I always figured they were trying to get rid of bodies while everyone was distracted by the storm.

438 CommonCents  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:23:14pm

re: #428 paint-right

Wow..that's like a scary two-eyed monster.

That's a cool picture. If you look carefully, the trailing storm/depression looks like the head of Wiley coyote chasing the Tazmanian Devil.

439 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:23:25pm

re: #436 HoosierHoops
Bravo. Zulu.

440 ciaospirit  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:23:32pm

I think NO ought to be evacuated permanently. I know it has a lot of history, but it's just in a really bad location. Not just because of hurricanes, of course, but experts last time around said some pretty convincing stuff about the future of that area. And none of it was good.

441 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:23:56pm

re: #422 buzzdroid

Drudge is good one - he always links to satt images, radar and a ton of stuff anytime a hurricane is due to hit the U.S.

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

if you want to track the storm overlayed on a google map this is a good one to visit:

[Link: www.ibiseye.com...]

Thanks! I didn't know that about Drudge.

442 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:24:00pm

re: #434 pingjockey

Me too. The Sovs could have walked into Western Europe if they'd wanted to. The only reason I figure they didn't was the Nuke threat. God knows they had us outnumbered everywhere.

I have to really dig it out, but that brief period in the 90's when the KGB files were opened to scholars. I read that the Sov's where seriously contemplating a move in Europe if Carter got re-elected. They thought he'd fold like wet paper.

443 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:24:41pm

re: #430 BlueCanuck

Yes it is. I find the IR shots are better for looking at cloud cover from that website. Here's the combo version of the same shot. The visible shot shows nothing right now because of lack of sunlight over the area.

That thing is HUGE.

444 Gang of One  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:24:45pm

re: #406 paint-right

The cool thing I never knew about the bar and bat mitzvahs was the mitzvah part. The kids take on a project which is often very creative and does a great good. Now these good deeds are often the basis for an articles in the local paper and some of these kids do some wonderful things. What a wonderful tradition.

The community service part is probably something developed in recent years -- I did not do anything like this, and it is probably a detriment to my development. Truth to tell, I do not know if my nephew is engaging in any kind of public service. I will have to take a closer look.

Goddess of the Classroom: thank you for your encouragement! I hope to live up to the title of 'educator' and not just 'check casher'. I think perhaps you and I may have some ideas to exchange in the near future -- I would absolutely appreciate any suggestions as well as any advice and experiential advice.

445 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:24:58pm

The soft pink light of the fading evening upon the San Gabriel Mountains. (Towercam)

And some overheard LLL female comments today re Palin:

She was a beauty queen (said with special derision).

...airhead...

... will neglect her children now ...

... Republicans are such hypocrites, they want women to stay home with the kids, then they nominate one with kids for VP ...

446 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:24:58pm

re: #410 MandyManners

Yes. Refer to #140 David IV of Georgia.

447 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:25:10pm

SS Oyashio Class Diesel Submarine, Jpan, !994-present. Entire hullis one big sensor. Almost undefeated at Rimpac, 2000 to present. Chile and Australia have also won Rimpac. US Navy too stupid to incorporate into American harbor and lane defence.
[Link: www.globalsecurity.org...]

448 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:25:21pm

re: #433 CapeCoddah

Make that 3

Four.

449 ciaospirit  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:25:30pm

re: #435 Cognito

Charles,

Shocking candid video of Democratic Chairman laughing about Hurricane Gustav (scores dead so far) and saying it shows God favors the left:

Only watch it if you want your socks blown off.

OMG.

450 CIA Reject  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:26:12pm

re: #417 jcm

I remember reading about Seabees when I was a kid building those island airfields in WWII. Simply incredible.

That spirit isn't dead in America, no matter how hard the likes of BO have tried to kill it!

451 Gang of One  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:26:38pm

re: #431 MandyManners

Lifetime channel.

Eggselent. Going now to check that out.

452 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:26:42pm

re: #445 Ojoe
Sun setting on the clams too.

453 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:26:49pm

bbl

454 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:26:50pm

re: #421 The Shadow Do

How do we get you to the States to knock some sense into our lefty goofballs?

maybe have LGF sponsor a social networky website :

- "You swap your U.S. citizenship for my UK one"

michael stipe of REM has threatened to leave the U.S. if McCain wins - great stuff - i'll have his passport and will gladly give him my UK one.

after about 6 months of living under the EU dictatorship , where you have NO SAY whatsoever on laws being passed, he'll come back screaming to the U.S.

i'm telling you - lefty Americans dont realise just how much of an anti-democratic monster the EU is. and they all want to live over here?

gimme a break.. gimme a gun, freedom, and low taxes anyday.

455 CommonCents  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:26:54pm

re: #447 pat

US Navy too stupid to incorporate into American harbor and lane defence.
[Link: www.globalsecurity.org...]

Watch yourself with that foul talk of the US Navy

456 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:26:57pm

re: #343 Silhouette

LOL! Obama called FEMA to make sure they're prepared. Define: hubris.

Like FEMA people were sitting around playing bridge, when the call came through from Obama. "What? Yeah, fine, we'll get on it. (click) Game's over, folks. I guess we'd better get hopping."

It isn't his job, his area of expertise, or in any way under his authority. But he has "contacted" everyone to make sure they're doing it right, and he will likewise take credit for everything done well (I made sure of it!), and still criticize for anything done with less than perfection.

yeah, I noticed that too.

Arrogance.

457 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:27:12pm

re: #442 jcm
They were probably right. If Carter had been reelected I would have got out. We had no fuel, no weapons for live weapons training. Just a goddamn mess. RWR saved the US military and Western Europe. The only people who really appreciate what he did are the Poles, Latvians, Lithuanians, Eastonians, and a bunch more I can't think of right now.

458 Cognito  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:28:09pm

re: #449 ciaospirit

OMG.

Stunning, isn't it? I'm hoping Charles will see fit to post it.

459 Maximu§  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:28:11pm

re: #436 HoosierHoops

I'll never forgot how bulked up jordan was when he got off the bus from Iraq.. I tease him that he can now move the old man out of the paint.. We are so proud of him..
We have not received final word on the 3/5th Marines deployment in Jan...Well actually..The families do kindof know..but no one broadcasts troop movements..
-Proud Marine Parent

Yeah, Loose lips sink ships, we're going to go to graduation day. I can't wait to see him. We all wrote him back letters today and I always felt better when I got letters from home, cept from my psycho gf.

460 nightintheruts  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:28:39pm

The messiah won't go down there because those aren't his type of people. He won't get any donations there.

He really shouldn't be scared though...

Shit floats.

461 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:29:02pm

re: #435 Cognito

Charles,

Shocking candid video of Democratic Chairman laughing about Hurricane Gustav (scores dead so far) and saying it shows God favors the left:

Only watch it if you want your socks blown off.

That low-life motherfucker should be shipped to St. Bernard Parish and cast into the streets while that footage is played on every television station.

462 wolfie  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:29:25pm

re: #409 CapeCoddah

I think Silhoette figured out what the storyline will be, too.
Now it's poor minorities (sniff) who are oppressed by a conformist majority. Later it will be a minority (vicious cabal) ruling over the People (majority), a la South Africa!
They'll morph into the new party line w/o missing a beat, I'm sure!

463 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:29:32pm

re: #458 Cognito

Whoever shot that video is going to be looking for a new job on Monday.

464 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:29:35pm

re: #438 CommonCents

That's a cool picture. If you look carefully, the trailing storm/depression looks like the head of Wiley coyote chasing the Tazmanian Devil.


i think its starting to look like the flying spagetti monster.

yet more proof of his noodly appendages.

465 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:29:49pm

re: #447 pat
We be invested in Nuc boats. The sub service gets all the newest toys. Don't know if we'll ever build diesel subs again.

466 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:30:01pm

re: #461 MandyManners

That low-life motherfucker should be shipped to St. Bernard Parish and cast into the streets while that footage is played on every television station.

It should be in an RNC ad with a reminder how well th Dem did during Katrina,

467 tradewind  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:30:08pm

(Anyone who prayed for ' torrential rains' during Obama's Invesco speech, thanks for nuthin'... can you say ' reap the whirlwind'?)
The bright note is that Palin and McCain will be in MS tomorrow .... I may have to drive down to Jackson to hear them.

468 kuffar  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:30:22pm

re: #435 Cognito

It'll make a great ad. Especially if Gustav floods NOLA like Katrina did. Probably spell the doom of the Democratic Party.

469 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:30:23pm

re: #454 buzzdroid

maybe have LGF sponsor a social networky website :

- "You swap your U.S. citizenship for my UK one"

michael stipe of REM has threatened to leave the U.S. if McCain wins - great stuff - i'll have his passport and will gladly give him my UK one.

after about 6 months of living under the EU dictatorship , where you have NO SAY whatsoever on laws being passed, he'll come back screaming to the U.S.

i'm telling you - lefty Americans dont realise just how much of an anti-democratic monster the EU is. and they all want to live over here?

gimme a break.. gimme a gun, freedom, and low taxes anyday.

Lot's of room for you in Texas my friend. Bring a large group of your like minded friends and they can swap places with the population of Austin. Win/Win!

470 Silhouette  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:30:25pm

re: #405 Typicalwhitey

I heard her folks have a bumper sticker:
Vegatarian: Old Indian word for bad hunter lol

The funniest thing is, I cracked that joke to my vegetarian friend from India, meaning American Indian and forgetting for a second that he was also an Indian, and he still got it.

471 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:30:28pm

re: #463 Killgore Trout

Whoever shot that video is going to be looking for a new job on Monday.

Zombie, where were you when this was recorded?

472 BlueCanuck  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:30:53pm

Well time for me to head out folks. Got to get ready for work and get there on time. Stay scaly and see y'all about midnight est.

473 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:30:56pm

re: #446 David IV of Georgia

Yes. Refer to #140 David IV of Georgia.

I'd be going up the eastern side of Florida or getting to port and going ashore.

474 Maximu§  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:31:25pm

re: #447 pat

SS Oyashio Class Diesel Submarine, Jpan, !994-present. Entire hullis one big sensor. Almost undefeated at Rimpac, 2000 to present. Chile and Australia have also won Rimpac. US Navy too stupid to incorporate into American harbor and lane defence.
[Link: www.globalsecurity.org...]

Aw pat, theres alot of squids in here...lets replace the word stupid with "short-sighted". The Navy has its reasons for not using Diesel subs.

475 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:31:28pm

re: #443 MandyManners

That thing is HUGE.

Only from South Carolina to the mid Yucatan.

476 ciaospirit  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:31:31pm

re: #435 Cognito

Democratic Chairman laughing about Hurricane Gustav (scores dead so far) and saying it shows God favors the left:

You mean the God they threw out of schools and don't want mentioned anywhere in the public square? That God?

477 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:31:38pm

re: #462 wolfie

Cannot argue with that!

478 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:31:41pm

re: #457 pingjockey

Romanians, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Czechs, Slovaks...

479 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:31:48pm

re: #458 Cognito

Stunning, isn't it? I'm hoping Charles will see fit to post it.

What is the chance this will become general knowledge through the MSM?

480 tradewind  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:31:54pm

re: #461 MandyManners

Hanna is behind Gustav, and it's still early in hurricane season.... he'd better watch it, his precious coastal NY/MA/CT/RI core constituencies could get hit next....

481 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:32:05pm

re: #461 MandyManners

That low-life motherfucker should be shipped to St. Bernard Parish and cast into the streets while that footage is played on every television station.

nothing surprises me when it comes to socialists.


about time you Americans dropped the "liberal" tag and started calling these scumbags for what they really are - SOCIALISTS...

482 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:32:09pm

re: #478 victor_yugo
Thanks!

483 bikeguy65  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:32:39pm

re: #101 Bobibutu

Jaws was filmed off the coast of Cape Cod on Martha's Vineyard! I saw it the first time in Hyannis at about 13 years old, no more swimming that summer!

484 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:32:47pm

I'm pissed. bbl before I say something really bad.

485 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:33:01pm

re: #466 pat

It should be in an RNC ad with a reminder how well th Dem did during Katrina,

How does one send that video on to the McCain campaign?

486 Archimedes  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:33:09pm

I gotta think Sarah Palin's husband will be at home working if McCain wins. I mean, what else is he going to do?

487 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:33:14pm

re: #465 pingjockey

We be invested in Nuc boats. The sub service gets all the newest toys. Don't know if we'll ever build diesel subs again.

I agree. And I really don't think we should, These boats use USA armaments. I propose we buy them from the Japanese and sensor and weaponize them here. They would cost about $500M per. We should have Kawasaki make them for us.

488 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:33:26pm

re: #465 pingjockey

We be invested in Nuc boats. The sub service gets all the newest toys. Don't know if we'll ever build diesel subs again.

Basically, diesels are coastal defense, and damn good at it. We use our much differently, power projection, CBG escort, SSBN tracking, and ELINT.

If our navy is fighting off our continental shelf we're in deep doo doo.

489 Silhouette  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:33:47pm

re: #445 Ojoe

She was a beauty queen (said with special derision).

...airhead...

Just the bigotry I was talking about earlier.

I've known too many beauty queens with 4.0s in engineering to fall for that.

Ditto to the anti-cheerleader, anti-sorority bigotry I've seen. Smacks of Junior High jealously, frankly.

490 Cognito  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:33:51pm

re: #479 The Shadow Do

What is the chance this will become general knowledge through the MSM?

Pretty darned good, actually.

I think McCain should make this the centerpiece of a post-Gustav ad campaign. Constant rotation.

491 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:34:12pm

re: #463 Killgore Trout

Whoever shot that video is going to be looking for a new job on Monday.

I got the feeling it was another passenger in First Class who does not work for these clowns.

492 wolfie  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:34:32pm

re: #397 Maximu§

re: #432 jcm

re: #457 pingjockey

To you all...and anyone else around tonight.....from all of us:
Thanks for serving.
As long as there are people like you around, I don't give up hope for this country. And there are young guys following in your footsteps.
America's best.

493 CommonCents  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:34:39pm

re: #476 ciaospirit

You mean the God they threw out of schools and don't want mentioned anywhere in the public square? That God?

That would be the one. The God that is so on "their side" as represented in a storm makes a direct path for a Democrat voter base during a presidential election year. That guys real smart there.

494 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:34:46pm

re: #471 solomonpanting

Zombie, where were you when this was recorded?

That was posted on Drudge, I don't think it is Zombie's

495 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:34:57pm

re: #486 Archimedes

I gotta think Sarah Palin's husband will be at home working if McCain wins. I mean, what else is he going to do?

If the candidate was named Sam Palin, would you have said "what else is she going to do?"

496 nightintheruts  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:35:12pm

re: #481 buzzdroid

nothing surprises me when it comes to socialists.


about time you Americans dropped the "liberal" tag and started calling these scumbags for what they really are - SOCIALISTS...

We actually have a socialist from Vermont I think, in Washington. And the dhimmis side with him on everything.
Very sad.

497 tradewind  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:35:23pm

re: #490 Cognito

Let it go viral, stat. Dems wanna live by the macaca video, they should die by it as well...

498 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:35:43pm

re: #459 Maximu§

Yeah, Loose lips sink ships, we're going to go to graduation day. I can't wait to see him. We all wrote him back letters today and I always felt better when I got letters from home, cept from my psycho gf.

That is so great you are going to graduation..that will mean alot to your son..
The day we went to mcrd in san diego ...that graduation could bring tears to your eyes...
I was, honestly, a little worried about jordan..A little bit of a 'wild child'.. Great athlete....but..alittle bit of a temper..ahem..
The best thing that could ever happen for him was the Marines..
He became a man.

499 bikeguy65  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:35:46pm

re: #123 CapeCoddah

I thought that was stranded in Falmouth?

500 swamprat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:35:46pm

Cris Calloway,daughter of Cab Calloway has passed from breast cancer very recently. I enjoyed her music, and the way it made you feel. She was a funny person, and she will be missed.

501 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:36:16pm

re: #488 jcm
Yep. Diesel boats are good for coastal stuff, choke points etc...However, our diesel boats basically strangled the Japenese empire from bases in Hawaii, and Australia. So it can be done, I just don't see Iran or the Norks coming out that far!

502 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:36:28pm

re: #490 Cognito

Pretty darned good, actually.

I think McCain should make this the centerpiece of a post-Gustav ad campaign. Constant rotation.

I trust you're correct. A real litmus test this one.

503 Archimedes  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:37:30pm

re: #495 reine.de.tout

If the candidate was named Sam Palin, would you have said "what else is she going to do?"

Believe it or not, I think men and women are different, and women are more inclined to follow a husband than the other way around. It's just the way nature is and it's pretty consistent across space and time.

504 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:37:42pm

re: #435 Cognito

Charles,

Shocking candid video of Democratic Chairman laughing about Hurricane Gustav (scores dead so far) and saying it shows God favors the left:

Only watch it if you want your socks blown off.

I think that they won't get what they hope for. I think all parties involved will endeavor to overachieve, even if laws are fudged, to make sure that there are no repeats of the Katrina problems. As much as unpredictable weather will allow, I think things will go like clockwork. I hope I'm not wrong.

505 ciaospirit  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:38:20pm

re: #467 tradewind

(Anyone who prayed for ' torrential rains' during Obama's Invesco speech, thanks for nuthin'... can you say ' reap the whirlwind'?)

Did you forget your ridiculous tag?

506 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:38:28pm

re: #492 wolfie
Thank you. I know 3 such young gentlemen, one Marine, one SEAL, and one Air Force. The msm can talk doom and gloom. I KNOW better.

507 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:38:28pm

re: #492 wolfie

re: #432 jcm

re: #457 pingjockey

To you all...and anyone else around tonight.....from all of us:
Thanks for serving.
As long as there are people like you around, I don't give up hope for this country. And there are young guys following in your footsteps.
America's best.

and i'd like to express my support for you guys from the UK. despite what the Dems say, America and its military are admired and supported by a ton of us over here. dont believe the socialist MSM droids.

508 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:38:32pm

Diesels would be cheap, effective and deadly in protecting the Alaska, Hawaii, and gulf sea lanes.

509 swamprat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:38:43pm

re: #500 swamprat
Chris

510 nightintheruts  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:38:45pm

re: #492 wolfie

re: #432 jcm

re: #457 pingjockey

To you all...and anyone else around tonight.....from all of us:
Thanks for serving.
As long as there are people like you around, I don't give up hope for this country. And there are young guys following in your footsteps.
America's best.


Disabled cold war vet here.

When I talk to the young ones, and see the videos and pictures...
yes, there is hope isn't there?

511 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:38:55pm

re: #505 ciaospirit
Hahahahaha!

512 jwb7605  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:39:25pm

re: #494 CapeCoddah

That was posted on Drudge, I don't think it is Zombie's

If that was posted on Drudge, it will make it into the MSM.
They need "plausable deniability", and they get stuff only from well known sources. Drudge gives them both.

If it goes anything like it usually goes, Fox will air it first (they've already aired the Michael Moore version, with the caveat that he also stated "I hope no one is injured"). Then, IF that gets ANY traction, the MiniStreamMedia will pick it up.

513 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:39:27pm

Drudge has linked the Fowler story:

[Link: www.redstate.com...]

514 jwb7605  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:39:55pm

re: #502 The Shadow Do

I trust you're correct. A real litmus test this one.

DURING THE CONVENTION.

515 Maximu§  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:39:55pm

re: #498 HoosierHoops

Temper? Must be from your side of the family.....lol

j/k...We're thinking of driving our motorhome there. Wonder how long it would take to drive from LA to Ky?

516 Cognito  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:40:14pm

re: #502 The Shadow Do

I trust you're correct. A real litmus test this one.

I've been trying to work out whether the DNC could squash this, legally, to keep it off the networks. Their lawyers could argue that Fowler, on an airplane, had a 'reasonable expectation of privacy' during his conversation.

But that's rubbish. The recording passenger had a reasonable expectation of a jackass-free flight, and he didn't get it. And the people of the Gulf Coast, not to mention Fowler's party, have a reasonable expectation of human decency. And they're not getting it.

Should be plenty airable.

517 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:40:33pm

re: #507 buzzdroid
My wife is from Wales and I know that what I see on the msm isn't the Majority. Y'all got knotheads in goverment just like us.

518 paint-right  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:41:25pm

re: #438 CommonCents

That's a cool picture. If you look carefully, the trailing storm/depression looks like the head of Wiley coyote chasing the Tazmanian Devil.

wonder if there's any way Hannah could carom off and head up to New England. it's been a while since we had a big hit and we're overdue.

519 Cognito  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:41:48pm

re: #504 David IV of Georgia

I think that they won't get what they hope for. I think all parties involved will endeavor to overachieve, even if laws are fudged, to make sure that there are no repeats of the Katrina problems. As much as unpredictable weather will allow, I think things will go like clockwork. I hope I'm not wrong.

It's not about that. It's about the ugly, ugly cynicism he displays. He's laughing -- laughing -- about a deadly hurricane, because he thinks it might serve the Democratic Party.

Nothing funnier than a hurricane, to the Democratic party. Except maybe a tidal wave. Or an earthquake.

The scripts write themselves.

520 tradewind  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:42:56pm

re: #505 ciaospirit

I could have added an /' only slight sarc alert /, but it seemed unnecessary.
I do think that praying for someone else's misfortune, if you are serious and not in jest, will often come back and bite you in the rear. I also think silliness like mass prayer for a rainout gives praying people of faith a bad name with those who have none.....
Just saying.

521 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:42:58pm

re: #519 Cognito
That left a mark! Good one. Buncha assholes they are!

522 Silhouette  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:43:02pm

OT- freshly washed dog just brought me her collar to put back on her.

Priss.

523 wolfie  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:43:11pm

re: #471 solomonpanting

Zombie, where were you when this was recorded?

Bwahhhhhhaaaaaaaaa.............

524 Pullus Iulius  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:43:53pm

re: #516 Cognito

A modern passenger plane with any expectation of privacy? What form of airplane is this of which you speak?

525 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:44:05pm

re: #499 bikeguy65

The great white a few ears ago was stranded in a lagoon, on one of the Elizabeth's, privately owned by Kerry's family. The island is not too far from Woods Hole, between MV and Rochester area

526 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:44:28pm

re: #516 Cognito

I've been trying to work out whether the DNC could squash this, legally, to keep it off the networks. Their lawyers could argue that Fowler, on an airplane, had a 'reasonable expectation of privacy' during his conversation.

But that's rubbish. The recording passenger had a reasonable expectation of a jackass-free flight, and he didn't get it. And the people of the Gulf Coast, not to mention Fowler's party, have a reasonable expectation of human decency. And they're not getting it.

Should be plenty airable.

Is there a federal law that requires all parties to a conversation know about any type of recording?

527 Cognito  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:44:33pm

re: #524 Pullus Iulius

A modern passenger plane with any expectation of privacy? What form of airplane is this of which you speak?

Just trying to preemptively view it through lawyer goggles.

Like I said, it's rubbish.

528 jwb7605  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:44:43pm

re: #520 tradewind

I could have added an /' only slight sarc alert /, but it seemed unnecessary.
I do think that praying for someone else's misfortune, if you are serious and not in jest, will often come back and bite you in the rear. I also think silliness like mass prayer for a rainout gives praying people of faith a bad name with those who have none.....
Just saying.

You've restored my faith. Especially with the second part.

529 Bobblehead  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:44:53pm

re: #522 Silhouette

OT- freshly washed dog just brought me her collar to put back on her.

Priss.

Girls will be girls.

530 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:45:00pm

re: #525 CapeCoddah


The great white a few ears ago was stranded in a lagoon, on one of the Elizabeth's, privately owned by Kerry's family. The island is not too far from Woods Hole, between MV and Rochester area

Naushon Island

531 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:45:14pm

re: #501 pingjockey

Yep. Diesel boats are good for coastal stuff, choke points etc...However, our diesel boats basically strangled the Japenese empire from bases in Hawaii, and Australia. So it can be done, I just don't see Iran or the Norks coming out that far!

During WWII nobody had satellite monitoring. Diesel exhaust is easily spotted from orbit when the subs "belch".

Nuke subs get warmer right before putting out to sea, which is also visible on satellite, but once they're under way, it's a lot easier to hide them until they're in position.

532 Cognito  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:45:15pm

re: #526 MandyManners

Is there a federal law that requires all parties to a conversation know about any type of recording?

No. Only during phone calls, during which there actually is a 'reasonable expectation of privacy.' And that's only in certain states.

533 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:45:19pm

jeez - just watched that video again.

my god - thats just DYNAMITE...

is Drudge linking to it? he'd be a good bet to inform.

has anyone sent it to charles? that vid has gotta go far and wide. its utter dynamite.

534 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:45:22pm

re: #520 tradewind
Who did a mass prayer for a rainout? Really? I know I cracked a couple of jokes about t-storms after funnel clouds were sighted outside of Denver. But, nothing serious.

535 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:45:41pm

re: #524 Pullus Iulius

A modern passenger plane with any expectation of privacy? What form of airplane is this of which you speak?


I would think that if Drudge linked it, and he has
HERE then it will get play.

536 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:45:44pm

re: #469 The Shadow Do

Lot's of room for you in Texas my friend. Bring a large group of your like minded friends and they can swap places with the population of Austin. Win/Win!

We could ship to Europe all the people here in Texas born north of the Mason-Dixon line who haven't assimilated also. I wish they'd let us patrol the north border also.*

*I've been talking to an acquaintance from Massachusetts who plans to vote for Obama because he wants free health care. Free. Yeah, right. He also can repeat all the other Obama talking points verbatim. Other than politics and logic, he's pretty cool.

537 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:45:49pm

re: #522 Silhouette
Well, she knows she's nekkid!

538 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:45:53pm

Drudge just crashed Red State. It's getting around.....

539 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:46:11pm

re: #503 Archimedes

Believe it or not, I think men and women are different, and women are more inclined to follow a husband than the other way around. It's just the way nature is and it's pretty consistent across space and time.

Believe it or not, I also believe that men and women are different.

Her husband apparently is not currently employed; I understand he quit his job when she became governor to avoid any appearance of conflicts of interest and also to take care of the kids and home.

Frankly, this guy seems to me to be very secure in his own skin and has no problems pursuing his own interests. That those interests at this time include offering time and resources in support of his wife is a great thing.

540 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:46:11pm

re: #501 pingjockey

Yep. Diesel boats are good for coastal stuff, choke points etc...However, our diesel boats basically strangled the Japenese empire from bases in Hawaii, and Australia. So it can be done, I just don't see Iran or the Norks coming out that far!

And next to 8th AF in Europe, the fleet boats had the highest casualty rate. We threw a lot of boats at that job to get it done.

541 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:46:23pm

re: #456 reine.de.tout

yeah, I noticed that too.

Arrogance.

No! Really? Where did that observation come from?

/

542 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:46:27pm

linky to vid , in case it gets lost in the thread

Youtube Video

543 razorbacker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:46:34pm

Been reading the Star Tribune online.

Local sheriffs have made some preemptive raids on protesters to the RNC.

Usual suspects whining about tactics.

544 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:47:12pm

[Link: www.capecodonline.com...]
Read the shark sightings list in blue to the right.

545 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:47:33pm

re: #434 pingjockey

Me too. The Sovs could have walked into Western Europe if they'd wanted to. The only reason I figure they didn't was the Nuke threat. God knows they had us outnumbered everywhere.

The nukes didn't scare the Soviets nearly as much as our conventional capabilities. The Soviet Military was a paper tiger, they and Reagan knew it. They had many tanks, but their stuff was junk. look at what happened in Desert Storm. Remember the Marines had M-60s and kicked serious butt. We had systems that could chew up their tanks like nothing. From the LAAW rockets to the A-10 Thunderbolt II we were geared toward stopping them cold, and we could, even if Walter Cronkite and fiends said other wise.
The Soviets were not confident in MAD. They knew we could ace them, but like the North Vietnamese, they had a trusted ally, the American media.

546 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:48:40pm

re: #538 MrPaulRevere


I hope that one gets legs.

547 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:49:10pm

re: #515 Maximu§

Temper? Must be from your side of the family.....lol

j/k...We're thinking of driving our motorhome there. Wonder how long it would take to drive from LA to Ky?

Well my friend..count on a three day trip from the west coast to kentucky.. 3 days home..that's 6 days that you could spend with your son..just fly and enjoy tje extra time refreshed and have a great time.
/just saying...if i had a motor home my mindset would be so different.

548 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:49:37pm

re: #536 David IV of Georgia

We could ship to Europe all the people here in Texas born north of the Mason-Dixon line who haven't assimilated also. I wish they'd let us patrol the north border also.*

*I've been talking to an acquaintance from Massachusetts who plans to vote for Obama because he wants free health care. Free. Yeah, right. He also can repeat all the other Obama talking points verbatim. Other than politics and logic, he's pretty cool.

in the UK, with our "free" socialist healthcare, around 10,000 people die of MRSA or C-DIFF - both hospital bugs, who thrive in insanitary conditions - every friggin YEAR...

and because its socialised, nobody can make a law suit.

thats socialism for you - visit hospital, and then get killed by the hospital.

its getting to such an extent that older people over here are now terrified of even going to a hospital. of course, the dems will never tell you any of that.

(and this is despite BILLIONS upon Billions being spent over the past 10 year)

549 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:49:40pm

re: #516 Cognito

If someone take a picture of Jennifer Aniston at the beach, they can publish it all they like. Take a picture of me, and they can't right? I understand from talking to people who aren't lawyers that if you make a living by being in the public eye, then your picture can be published. Otherwise, no. Is that true? Either way, this guy would have to be said to have been in the public eye right?

550 stevieray  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:49:42pm

Damn.

'Bama's lookin' good this year.

551 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:49:56pm

re: #545 JeremyR
After about 1984. Before 1980, I doubt we could've stopped them. We were in piss poor shape. I went in 1977. Our tanks, IIRC had to have a 10-1 or 15-1 kill ratio cause we were outnumbered that bad.

552 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:50:10pm

Activists decry police raids in both cities

Aided by informants planted in protest groups, authorities raided at least six buildings across St. Paul and Minneapolis to stop an "anarchist" plan to disrupt this week's Republican National Convention.

From Friday night through Saturday afternoon, officers surrounded houses, broke down doors, handcuffed scores of people and confiscated suspected tools of civil disobedience. The show of force was led by the Ramsey County Sheriff's office in collaboration with the FBI, Minneapolis and St. Paul police, the Hennepin County sheriff and other agencies.

/take that bad guys

553 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:50:13pm

re: #526 MandyManners

Is there a federal law that requires all parties to a conversation know about any type of recording?

Lots of state laws - don't know about fed.

May be one IIRC - starts with a "B".

554 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:50:22pm

re: #531 victor_yugo

During WWII nobody had satellite monitoring. Diesel exhaust is easily spotted from orbit when the subs "belch".

Nuke subs get warmer right before putting out to sea, which is also visible on satellite, but once they're under way, it's a lot easier to hide them until they're in position.

We now have the SOUSOS (correct acronym?) sonar nets and subs at speed leave a surface pressure wake we can detect with satellite.

555 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:50:35pm

re: #545 JeremyR

" even if Walter Cronkite and fiends said other wise." Please tell me that was intentional!

556 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:50:47pm

re: #536 David IV of Georgia

We could ship to Europe all the people here in Texas born north of the Mason-Dixon line who haven't assimilated also. I wish they'd let us patrol the north border also.*

*I've been talking to an acquaintance from Massachusetts who plans to vote for Obama because he wants free health care. Free. Yeah, right. He also can repeat all the other Obama talking points verbatim. Other than politics and logic, he's pretty cool.

If your friend is not a tax payer (among the 40% or so), then he is quite right about voting Obama. File under disgusting but true.

557 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:50:49pm

Outstanding Article!

I highly recommend taking a few minutes to read it.

My brother just called me, because of the Palin pick, he is on board with McCain now.
His daughter is special needs also.
He KNOWS how hard that road is and deeply admires the fact that she knew ahead of time and chose to welcome her son into her family anyway.

That is one of the reasons this pick has rocked my world!

558 razorbacker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:50:51pm

re: #552 Killian Bundy

That's the one.

559 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:51:15pm

re: #543 razorbacker

Been reading the Star Tribune online.

Local sheriffs have made some preemptive raids on protesters to the RNC.

Usual suspects whining about tactics.

[Link: www.salon.com...]

the Salon side of the spin.

560 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:51:37pm

re: #554 jcm
SOSUS. And that is all I'm gonna tell you. Sorry.

561 Cognito  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:51:41pm

re: #549 cliffster

If someone take a picture of Jennifer Aniston at the beach, they can publish it all they like. Take a picture of me, and they can't right? I understand from talking to people who aren't lawyers that if you make a living by being in the public eye, then your picture can be published. Otherwise, no. Is that true? Either way, this guy would have to be said to have been in the public eye right?

No, that's not true.

Anyone in a public place can have their picture published. Famous or not.

562 Archimedes  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:52:14pm

re: #525 CapeCoddah

The great white a few ears ago was stranded in a lagoon, on one of the Elizabeth's, privately owned by Kerry's family. The island is not too far from Woods Hole, between MV and Rochester area

So, what brought up the subject of lawyers?

563 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:52:39pm

re: #561 Cognito

No, that's not true.

Anyone in a public place can have their picture published. Famous or not.

That's what I would have thought, but I don't know nothin' about nothin'

564 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:53:05pm

re: #562 Archimedes

Ummm, I did not mention lawyers!

565 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:53:42pm

re: #564 CapeCoddah

Ummm, I did not mention lawyers!

LOL, Slow night, I got it! Duh

566 Archimedes  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:53:47pm

re: #564 CapeCoddah

Ummm, I did not mention lawyers!

Okay, my mistake, you were just talking about sharks.

567 bikeguy65  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:53:49pm

re: #231 pat

Slow eater are we?

568 Cognito  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:53:50pm

re: #563 cliffster

That's what I would have thought, but I don't know nothin' about nothin'

It depends where you are. That same rule doesn't hold true everywhere. In France, for instance, the law is much more restrictive. Outrageously restrictive.

569 tradewind  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:54:23pm

re: #534 pingjockey

I'm totally serious... they did.
[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]
They later recanted and said ' our bad', but not for days......

570 nightintheruts  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:54:31pm

re: #557 Typicalwhitey


That is a great article.

I believe he's right.

571 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:54:39pm

re: #481 buzzdroid

nothing surprises me when it comes to socialists.


about time you Americans dropped the "liberal" tag and started calling these scumbags for what they really are - SOCIALISTS...

Define socialist. (I'll tell you my definition later.)

572 tradewind  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:54:51pm

re: #563 cliffster

Can you say Papparazzi?

573 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:55:12pm

re: #557 Typicalwhitey

"Finally 2008 really has given us "change we can count on." Ironically, it is the McCain-Palin ticket. "

100 per cent spot on. great article.

574 razorbacker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:55:52pm

re: #571 JeremyR

Define socialist. (I'll tell you my definition later.)

You've got it. I want it. My government takes it from you and gives it to me.

575 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:55:53pm

re: #560 pingjockey

SOSUS. And that is all I'm gonna tell you. Sorry.

LOL! Wiki has an overview or those interested.

576 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:56:05pm

re: #569 tradewind
Well, in the words of Monty Python....That's just silly.

577 Archimedes  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:56:14pm

re: #565 CapeCoddah

LOL, Slow night, I got it! Duh

I was assuming John Kerry was the one in the lagoon. :D

578 opilio  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:56:41pm

re: #554 jcm

We now have the SOUSOS (correct acronym?) sonar nets and subs at speed leave a surface pressure wake we can detect with satellite.

It appears SOSUS is a relic of a by-gone time.

579 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:57:38pm

re: #539 reine.de.tout

Believe it or not, I also believe that men and women are different.

Her husband apparently is not currently employed; I understand he quit his job when she became governor to avoid any appearance of conflicts of interest and also to take care of the kids and home.

Frankly, this guy seems to me to be very secure in his own skin and has no problems pursuing his own interests. That those interests at this time include offering time and resources in support of his wife is a great thing.

He has other stuff as well. He won another 1900 mile Snomobile race.
That make him an idiot. If I had a wife like that, there is no way I'd be gone from home that much. ;-)

580 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:57:44pm

re: #578 opilio

It appears SOSUS is a relic of a by-gone time.

It could be spun back up in hurry if needed.

581 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:57:56pm

re: #531 victor_yugo

During WWII nobody had satellite monitoring. Diesel exhaust is easily spotted from orbit when the subs "belch".

Nuke subs get warmer right before putting out to sea, which is also visible on satellite, but once they're under way, it's a lot easier to hide them until they're in position.

Nuclear subs can stay submerged for months. It is very hard to keep track of something deep in the water for that long.

A diesel sub has to surface every 200-300 miles or so. It is much easier to track. We also have learned how to outfit planes with specialized gear to track or kill a sub once its general location is known.

582 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:57:57pm

re: #575 jcm
Holy Noise! That is pretty damn extensive write up. Never mind. Didn't realize they'd released that much info.

583 Cognito  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:58:48pm

re: #579 JeremyR

He has other stuff as well. He won another 1900 mile Snomobile race.
That make him an idiot. If I had a wife like that, there is no way I'd be gone from home that much. ;-)

Um.... I hope you're not married. Because that might call into question who's the idiot, here... ;)

584 tradewind  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:58:52pm

re: #550 stevieray

Spent the best four of my life there. And does it make me mad that GOBAMA is tarnished forever.....

MP3 Audio

585 Irene NYC  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:59:04pm

Okay, it didn't take long for MoveOn to get out its talking points against Sarah Palin:

To everyone I know:

Regardless of who you are planning to vote for, please read this email I
received from a good friend. Please share this with as many people as
possible.

This is from a Bryn Mawr college grad to her fellow alums

Dear classmates -
As an Alaskan, I am writing to give all of you some information on
Sarah Palin, Senator McCain's choice for VP. As an Alaska voter, I
know more than most of you about her and, frankly, I am horrified that
he picked her.
The most accurate description of her is red neck. Her husband works in
the oil fields of Prudhoe Bay and races snow mobiles. She is a life
time member of the NRA and has worked tirelessly to allow
indiscriminate hunting of wildlife in Alaska , particularly wolves and
bears. She has spent millions of Alaska state dollars on aerial
hunting of these predators from helicopters and airplanes, dollars
that should have been spent, for example, on Alaska 's failing school
system.We have the lowest rate of high school graduation in the
country. Not all of you may think aerial predator hunting is so bad,
but how anyone (other than Alaska wolf-haters, of which there are
many, most without teeth), could think this use of funds is
appropriate is beyond me. If you want to know more about the aerial
hunting travesty, let me know and I will send some links to
informative web sites.
She has been a strong supporter of increased use of fossil fuels, yet
the McCain campaign has the nerve to say she has "green" policies. The
only thing green about Sarah Palin is her lack of experience. She has
consistently supported drilling in ANWR, use of coal-burning power
plants (as I write this, a new coal plant is being built in her home
town of Wasilla ), strip mining, and almost anything else that will
unnecessarily exploit the diminishing resources of Alaska and destroy
its environment.
Prior to her one year as governor of Alaska , she was mayor of Wasilla,
a small red neck town outside Anchorage.The average maximum education
level of parents of junior high school kids in Wasilla is 10th grade.
Unfortunately, I have to go to Wasilla every week to get groceries and
other supplies, so I have continual contact with the people who put
Palin in office in the first place. I know what I'm talking about.
These people don't have a concept of the world around them or of the
serious issues facing the US . Furthermore, they don't care. So long as
they can go out and hunt their moose every fall, kill wolves and bears
and drive their snow mobiles and ATVs through every corner of the
wilderness, they're happy. I wish I were exaggerating.
Sarah Palin is currently involved in a political corruption scandal.
She fired an individual in law enforcement here because she didn't
like how he treated one of her relatives during a divorce. The man's
performance and ability weren't considered; it was a totally personal
firing and is currently under investigation. While the issue isn't
close to the scandal of Ted Steven's corruption, it shows that Palin
isn't "squeaky clean" and causes me to think there may be more issues
that could come to light. Clearly McCain doesn't care.
When you line Palin up with Biden, the comparison would be laughable
if it weren't so serious. Sarah Palin knows nothing of economics
(admittedly a weak area for McCain), or of international affairs,
knows nothing of national government, Social Security, unemployment,
health care systems - you name it. The idea of her meeting with heads
of foreign governments around the world truly frightens me.
In an increasingly dangerous world, with the economy in shambles in
the US , Sarah Palin is uniquely UNqualified to be vice president. John
McCain is not a young man. Should something happen to him such that
the vice president had to step in, it would destroy our country and
possibly the world to have someone as inexperienced and inappropriate
as Sarah Palin.
TO BE CONTINUED IN 2nd POST

586 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:59:25pm

re: #571 JeremyR

in simple terms - socialism is a belief that the government is the answer to all our problems. socialists believe that there is no economic or social problem that the government cannot handle.

for socialists, the idea that individuals can self organise and solve problems themselves is totally out of their frame of reference.

i could go on - but i'd only end up writing an entire wiki page on it.

587 Irene NYC  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:59:26pm

HERE'S THE REST OF THE LETTER

The choice of Palin is a cheap shot by McCain to try
to get Hillary supporters to vote for him. when McCain introduced her
today, Palin had the nerve to compare herself with Hillary and
Geraldine Ferraro. Sarah Palin, you are no Hillary Clinton.
To those of you who, like me, supported Hillary and were upset that she
did not get the nomination, please don't think that Sarah Palin is a
worthy substitute. If you supported Hillary, regardless of what you
think the media and the democratic party may have done to undermine
her campaign, the person to support now is Obama, not Sarah Palin. To
those of you who are independent or undecided, don't let the choice of
Palin sway you in favor of McCain. Choosing her shows how unqualified
McCain is to be president. To those of you who are conservative, I
guess you have no choice for president. But please try to see how the
poor choice of Palin tells us a great deal about McCain's judgment.
While the political posturing inherent in the choice of Palin is
obvious, the more serious issue is the fact that the VP is, literally,
a heartbeat away from the presidency. Sarah Palin is totally and
unequivocally unqualified to be vice president, let alone president.
I know this is a lengthy and emotional email, but the stakes are high.
I thought it might help for all of you, regardless of political
affiliation, to know something about Palin from someone who has to
live with her administration in Alaska on a daily basis.
Here's some basic background from MoveOn.org:
* She was elected Alaska 's governor a little over a year and a half ago.
Her previous office was mayor of Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage.1
* Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape
or incest.2
* She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000. 3
* Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools.4
* She's doesn't think humans are the cause of climate change.5
* She's solidly in line with John McCain's "Big Oil first" energy policy.
She's pushed hard for more oil drilling and says renewables won't be ready
for years. She also sued the Bush administration for listing polar bears as
an endangered speciesshe was worried it would interfere with more oil
drilling in Alaska.6

588 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:59:31pm

re: #574 razorbacker

You've got it. I want it. My government takes it from you and gives it to me.

Somewhat, but not exactly it.

589 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:59:50pm

re: #577 Archimedes

I was assuming John Kerry was the one in the lagoon. :D

No need to be insulting great whites like that, they have a modicum of intelligence.

590 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 7:59:53pm

Have a good evening all, gotta sign off. The better half gets up at 3:30am for work and my tap tap tapping keeps her awake! See ya in the am.

591 nikis-knight  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:00:12pm

re: #490 Cognito

Pretty darned good, actually.

I think McCain should make this the centerpiece of a post-Gustav ad campaign. Constant rotation.

Play it, sure, but who really knows who that guy is? Obama will throw him under the bus and it'll be considered done.

592 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:00:25pm

re: #519 Cognito

It's not about that. It's about the ugly, ugly cynicism he displays. He's laughing -- laughing -- about a deadly hurricane, because he thinks it might serve the Democratic Party.

Nothing funnier than a hurricane, to the Democratic party. Except maybe a tidal wave. Or an earthquake.

The scripts write themselves.

You're right. He seems to think that human suffering is outweighed by political expediency.

593 Archimedes  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:00:33pm

re: #260 MandyManners

Yep.

Julie Andrews?

594 Cognito  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:00:36pm

re: #587 Irene NYC

Blah, blah, blah. Palin has a staggering 80 percent approval rating in Alaska.

That's almost unheard of, anywhere.

595 cliffster  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:01:05pm

re: #572 tradewind

Can you say Papparazzi?

Well it seemed like a semi-legitimate argument. Wrong I suppose, but maybe it's wishful thinking on the part of people who fancy someone might want to publish their image.

596 tradewind  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:01:13pm

re: #584 tradewind

(Hate it when that happens... tod' ya they'd screwed it up forever...)

597 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:02:07pm

"The most accurate description of her is red neck"

typical racist slurs from the MoveOn crowd. why am i not surprised?

598 Cognito  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:02:10pm

re: #591 nikis-knight

Play it, sure, but who really knows who that guy is? Obama will throw him under the bus and it'll be considered done.

It's not that easy. This is a Democratic biggie, too big to fit under the bus, and he's chatting with a Democratic Congressman. That's not bus material.

599 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:02:14pm

re: #583 Cognito

Um.... I hope you're not married. Because that might call into question who's the idiot, here... ;)

My wife is extremely ill. She has the looks yet, but her spine and nerves are degenerating FAST. She can no longer travel.
FWIW, even she acknowledges that Palin is MILF material.

600 Silhouette  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:02:21pm

re: #574 razorbacker

You've got it. I want it. My government takes it from you and gives it to me.

You forgot the step where the state takes a cut of your money for "collecting, distrbuting, and other operating expenses" before passing (what's left of) it on.

601 nikis-knight  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:02:30pm

re: #585 Irene NYC

Wow, I'm even more excited.
But the height of irony in that rant, he mentions how bad she is to use coal, a diminishing resource.
These buffoons would be against fossil fuels if the ocean were made of them.

602 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:02:59pm

re: #585 Irene NYC

I see Soros is getting more bang for his buck.

603 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:03:09pm

re: #587 Irene NYC

OMG, Palin does not believe in global warming caused by humans?... Lynch her!//

604 Irene NYC  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:03:13pm

re: #594 Cognito

I posted it to show how quickly and how vicious MoveOn.org can be.

But, we already knew that, didn't we?

605 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:03:36pm

re: #593 Archimedes

Julie Andrews?

I think Kerr is lip-synching Andrews.

606 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:03:51pm

re: #557 Typicalwhitey

Outstanding Article!

I highly recommend taking a few minutes to read it.

My brother just called me, because of the Palin pick, he is on board with McCain now.
His daughter is special needs also.
He KNOWS how hard that road is and deeply admires the fact that she knew ahead of time and chose to welcome her son into her family anyway.

That is one of the reasons this pick has rocked my world!

When Glenn Beck interviewed Palin back in June, the very first thing he did was to thank her for affirming all the hard work it takes as a parent of a special-needs child.

607 tradewind  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:04:10pm

re: #585 Irene NYC

Aside from the fact that that sounds-like-witch-starts-with-B wouldn't know a redneck if she misspelled one, what an illustrative post.
Sickos. Bunch of total sickos.

608 razorbacker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:04:40pm

re: #600 Silhouette

You forgot the step where the state takes a cut of your money for "collecting, distrbuting, and other operating expenses" before passing (what's left of) it on.

You're right. I did. That shipping and handling charge always raises the price.

609 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:04:41pm

re: #597 buzzdroid

And the hubby worked in an oil field too! These elitists from the upper west side of Manhattan must be horrified.

610 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:04:54pm

re: #585 Irene NYC

with the economy in shambles in
the US

Yeah, just like in Zimbabwe.

Sarah Palin, you are no Hillary Clinton.

Thank God.

611 swamprat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:05:07pm

re: #559 Bobibutu

[Link: www.salon.com...]

the Salon side of the spin.


OMG! Sockpuppet Alert!


Wooop!...Whooop!...Whooop!

They was oppressed!
Yes, they wuz!
Thats what I was just sayin'!

The only man who can sing harmony all by himself!
612 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:05:21pm

re: #579 JeremyR

He has other stuff as well. He won another 1900 mile Snomobile race.
That make him an idiot. If I had a wife like that, there is no way I'd be gone from home that much. ;-)

He has his own property and fishing rights for salmon - where she works with him each season - and she greets him at the finish line of the Iron Dog win - loose - or draw. I think it's 2000 miles - but that's up for debate - what a reunion after a race like that! heh!

613 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:05:41pm

re: #586 buzzdroid

in simple terms - socialism is a belief that the government is the answer to all our problems. socialists believe that there is no economic or social problem that the government cannot handle.

I watched "Clue" this afternoon. I loved how all 3 endings had the utterance:

"Communism? That's a red herring!"

Thoroughly tongue-in-cheek. "Ha-ha, only serious." Hilarious.

614 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:06:04pm

re: #590 pingjockey

Have a good evening all, gotta sign off. The better half gets up at 3:30am for work and my tap tap tapping keeps her awake! See ya in the am.

Night Ping!

615 Archimedes  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:06:04pm

re: #606 victor_yugo

When Glenn Beck interviewed Palin back in June, the very first thing he did was to thank her for affirming all the hard work it takes as a parent of a special-needs child.

I believe this is that interview:

Youtube Video

616 Pullus Iulius  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:06:08pm

re: #585 Irene NYC

Thank you for this. The mother of a good friend (well into her nineties by now) often sends me propaganda from MoveOn because...well...because she just does. Reading this garbage ahead of time will decrease my likelihood of making a coarse response when I receive it from her.

617 nightintheruts  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:06:12pm

re: #587 Irene NYC

they sure through that redneck word around a lot.

now I gotta wash my pickup truck and armor all my NRA sticker...

618 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:06:16pm

re: #607 tradewind

Aside from the fact that that sounds-like-witch-starts-with-B wouldn't know a redneck if she misspelled one, what an illustrative post.
Sickos. Bunch of total sickos.

I really liked the part where she has to go into Wasilla to go shopping among THOSE PEOPLE. And conservatives are elitists? LOL

619 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:06:42pm

re: #586 buzzdroid

in simple terms - socialism is a belief that the government is the answer to all our problems. socialists believe that there is no economic or social problem that the government cannot handle.

for socialists, the idea that individuals can self organise and solve problems themselves is totally out of their frame of reference.

i could go on - but i'd only end up writing an entire wiki page on it.

My definition is a communist without a spine. They advocate, almost entirely, communist dogma, but spend countless hours trying to convince us there is a diffrence between the two.
Socialism is the slow creep that oozes in when no one is paying strict attention. Communism kick down the door and seizes control. The end is the same, those who worked hard loose it all to those who did little or nothing to earn it.

620 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:06:56pm

re: #594 Cognito

Blah, blah, blah. Palin has a staggering 80 percent approval rating in Alaska.

That's almost unheard of, anywhere.

The two governors with the highest approvals are Palin and Lingle, both Republicans and friends.

621 tradewind  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:07:16pm
She fired an individual in law enforcement here because she didn't
like how he treated one of her relatives during a divorce.


That's Moveon Speak for ' beat the crap out of a woman'.

622 Silhouette  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:07:27pm

re: #597 buzzdroid

"The most accurate description of her is red neck"

typical racist slurs from the MoveOn crowd. why am i not surprised?

If you have money are are a GOP, you are "out of touch with the common man."

If you are the common man and are a GOP, you are a redneck.

If you are young and Dem, you are fresh and not a washington insider.

If you are young and GOP, you are dangerously inexperienced with Washington.

Etc., etc., etc.

623 jwb7605  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:07:36pm

re: #587 Irene NYC

HERE'S THE REST OF THE LETTER
/SNIP


Other than the sender's obvious bias, and the thinness of the charges, I don't think it's a "smear". I've got some minor issues, like "McCain's big oil agenda", etc.

She's right ... with respect to most "metropolitan cities in the lower 48", Palin is from a "redneck town".

Big problem is: which city in Alaska doesn't fit that description?

Poor thing. She must feel like a conservative in San Francisco .

624 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:08:09pm

"Should something happen to him such that
the vice president had to step in, it would destroy our country and
possibly the world to have someone as inexperienced and inappropriate
as Sarah Palin. "

laughable hysteria from the MoveOn.org crowd.

DESTROY the U.S.? by just having an Alaskan in the oval office?

so,according to moveon.org, not everyone can run for presidency. oh no - thats gotta be limited to a select "elite" who know better than you, the American plebs.

625 Miss Trixie  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:08:10pm

Ok. Now I'm seriously creeped out watching "Signs".

*shudder*

626 swamprat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:08:24pm

re: #611 swamprat

627 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:08:27pm

re: #585 Irene NYC

They don't know jack about wild life in Alaska!

628 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:08:56pm

re: #611 swamprat

They was oppressed!
Yes, they wuz!
Thats what I was just sayin'!

I was just watching the local news. You wouldn't believe all the dangerous the stuff the police confiscated in those raids.

/including buckets of urine

629 Colonel Panik  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:09:00pm

re: #358 pingjockey

Palin is gonna have Plugs stuffed head on her trophy wall after their debate.

Right next to the moosehead. LOL.

630 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:10:00pm

re: #629 Colonel Panik

Right next to the moosehead. LOL.


It would go better next to the squirrel.

631 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:10:06pm

re: #621 tradewind

That's Moveon Speak for ' beat the crap out of a woman'.

The asshole was driving drunk in a Police vehicle. The chief refused to fire him. Hello.

632 razorbacker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:10:51pm

re: #628 Killian Bundy

I was just watching the local news. You wouldn't believe all the dangerous the stuff the police confiscated in those raids.

/including buckets of urine

Whut? Don't you have buckets of urine stashed around? No? Whatcha gonna do when you need some? Huh? Not like you can run down to UrineRus.

633 Archimedes  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:10:58pm

re: #605 MandyManners

I think Kerr is lip-synching Andrews.

It's Deborah Kerr body and voice. :)

However,

Here is Julie Andrews lip-syncing Deborah Kerr:

Youtube Video

Hmmm ... I think Andrews has a better voice.

634 swamprat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:10:58pm

I messed up the greenwald wikipedia sockpuppet link. It is hilarious because he keeps removing the various cited sources.

635 Shay4l  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:11:04pm

re: #534 pingjockey

Who did a mass prayer for a rainout? Really? I know I cracked a couple of jokes about t-storms after funnel clouds were sighted outside of Denver. But, nothing serious.


Hoping for a rainstorm to soak a bunch of self-important politicians is a lot different than hoping a Cat 5 hurricane slams into the coast so that the opposition party can be made to look bad by partisan coverage.

636 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:11:10pm

re: #619 JeremyR

fair point. good analysis.

although i hasten to add - socialists can be christian, or of another faith.
there is a strong tradition of christian socialism in europe.

whereas the commies are hardcore atheist.

637 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:11:14pm

re: #621 tradewind

That's Moveon Speak for ' beat the crap out of a woman'.

Didn't he also shoot an animal out of season?

638 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:11:15pm

re: #631 pat

The asshole was driving drunk in a Police vehicle. The chief refused to fire him. Hello.

He had a DISEASE, we cant fire him for that, it would be discriminatory!//

639 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:12:15pm

The biomass has increased 25% in the last 10 years of warming, mostly in upper Northern Hemisphere.

640 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:12:53pm

re: #630 CapeCoddah

It would go better next to the squirrel.

It's another addition to her weasel collection.

641 jwb7605  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:12:56pm

re: #639 pat

The biomass has increased 25% in the last 10 years of warming, mostly in upper Northern Hemisphere.

Al Gore did all that?

642 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:13:02pm

re: #633 Archimedes

It's Deborah Kerr body and voice. :)

However,

Here is Julie Andrews lip-syncing Deborah Kerr:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Hmmm ... I think Andrews has a better voice.

Andrews has one of the best voices ever.

643 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:13:16pm

re: #638 CapeCoddah

LOL.

644 williwonka  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:13:21pm

re: #533 buzzdroid

jeez - just watched that video again.

my god - thats just DYNAMITE...

is Drudge linking to it? he'd be a good bet to inform.

has anyone sent it to charles? that vid has gotta go far and wide. its utter dynamite.

It is only DYNAMITE if it is followed up on day after day and even year after year.

The message that should get out is that tpp many leaders in the Democrat party are eager for any disaster that will harm people, because they know they will blame the Republicans for many years for any negative impact on peoples lives.

645 razorbacker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:13:23pm

re: #638 CapeCoddah

He had a DISEASE, we cant fire him for that, it would be discriminatory!//

And besides, you show me an 11 year old that doesn't need tasering.

For it's own good, of course. Spare the taser and spoil the child. That's how they would have written it, if they'd been able to.

646 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:13:26pm

re: #632 razorbacker

Whut? Don't you have buckets of urine stashed around? No? Whatcha gonna do when you need some? Huh? Not like you can run down to UrineRus.

WeBePee.com?

647 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:13:33pm

re: #552 Killian Bundy

Activists decry police raids in both cities

/take that bad guys

re: #632 razorbacker

Whut? Don't you have buckets of urine stashed around? No? Whatcha gonna do when you need some? Huh? Not like you can run down to UrineRus.

What? You mean they are actually guilty? And law enforcement chose to enforce laws? Fascist police state.

648 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:13:40pm

re: #639 pat

The biomass has increased 25% in the last 10 years of warming, mostly in upper Northern Hemisphere.

It took my biomass only 22 months to increase that much.

649 nikis-knight  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:13:46pm

re: #622 Silhouette


summation of the parties appeal: Republicans are Wal-mart to Wall street; people who work hard, wether wealthy or aspiring to be.
Democrats are handouts and Hollywood, people who don't have to work because they have the dole or the trust fund.
Quite a stereotype, I know, but more truth than falsehood.

Myre: #619 JeremyR I think you're right about the end result being state control ever increasing at the expense of liberty, but I will give the socalists credit for being squemish about setting up gulags and avoiding outright revolution.

650 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:13:47pm

re: #637 MandyManners

Didn't he also shoot an animal out of season?

Best part is when the head of public safety would not fire him, Palin fired the head of public safety. She does not screw around. Think Reagan and air traffic control.

651 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:13:48pm

re: #631 pat

The asshole was driving drunk in a Police vehicle. The chief refused to fire him. Hello.

And much more - tip of the 'burg for starters.

She did the right thing! Consistent with her ethics which are Right On!

652 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:14:23pm

re: #637 MandyManners

Didn't he also shoot an animal out of season?

Yes. A Moose.

653 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:15:12pm

re: #639 pat

The biomass has increased 25%....

Michael Moore's diet isn't working?

654 nikis-knight  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:15:13pm

re: #641 jwb7605


The biomass has increased 25% in the last 10 years of warming, mostly in upper Northern Hemisphere.


Al Gore did all that?


I think he was refering specifically to Al Gore's biomass?

655 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:15:24pm

re: #650 CapeCoddah

Best part is when the head of public safety would not fire him, Palin fired the head of public safety. She does not screw around. Think Reagan and air traffic control.

She's pretty fearless.

656 Tamron  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:15:41pm

re: #427 Bobibutu

Ha - probably so. You really have to be ignorant not to be able to take game and subsist on that only in Alaska - and well, the Oil bonus check helps out (~ $1K per person)


Hi all. I'd like to mention up front, that I've lived in Alaska for over 40 years and I've been a devoted Palin fan since before she was elected Governor. She has a good, strong handshake, incidentally.

Please note that in my book, the only people that Governor Sarah Palin has pissed off, are those who deserved it. She's had an approval rating of around 80% for several years now, and only seems to step on the toes of those who don't want to lead, don't want to follow, and don't want to get the hell out of the way.

Actually, our annual Alaskan oil bonus check varies between $1k and $2k. This year it'll be about $2,000. for each Alaskan, and since Sarah recently added about $1,200. to that because of Alaska's oil dividends being so high this year, next month each Alaskan resident gets a dividend check of approx $3,200. from this great state. We still have to pay federal income tax on that amount (it is, after all, a dividend and not welfare) but so what? Compare that to California's balance sheet.

"No experience?" Says who? Governor Palin is a successful and popular chief executive, supervising 20,000 employees with an annual budget of over $6 billion. (Please list all the businesses that YOU have managed lately, Barack...) And, to her credit, Sarah Palin is NOT an attorney!

Sarah delivers, folks. Just tell the malcontents to Sit Down and Shut Up, or Get the Hell Out of the Way.
.

657 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:15:43pm

re: #652 Bobibutu

Yes. A Moose.

Bastard.

658 opilio  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:16:00pm

re: #605 MandyManners

I think Kerr is lip-synching Andrews.

Kerr's singing voice was actually provided by Marni Nixon.

659 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:16:01pm

RATTLED!
[Link: pol.moveon.org...]


theres no other word for it.
they are seriously rattled.

pass the popcorn - this gonna be one hell of a ride.

660 Jimmah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:16:05pm

re: #454 buzzdroid


michael stipe of REM has threatened to leave the U.S. if McCain wins - great stuff - i'll have his passport and will gladly give him my UK one.

You'll do no such thing, buddy. The UK - my home, alas, is in a delicate state. The addition of Stipes nasal whine is the last thing it needs.

661 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:16:11pm

re: #650 CapeCoddah

Best part is when the head of public safety would not fire him, Palin fired the head of public safety. She does not screw around. Think Reagan and air traffic control.

I get a tingling up my leg every time I think of her agenda.

662 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:16:30pm

re: #645 razorbacker

And besides, you show me an 11 year old that doesn't need tasering.

For it's own good, of course. Spare the taser and spoil the child. That's how they would have written it, if they'd been able to.

Well, one can taser without spanking. I am so glad I got spanked when I needed it. Never made the same mistake twice. Tried lots of other stuff I got spanked for, but, never repeated. Thank god we did not have tasers then. My mother is just crazy enough...

663 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:17:24pm

re: #612 Bobibutu

He has his own property and fishing rights for salmon - where she works with him each season - and she greets him at the finish line of the Iron Dog win - loose - or draw. I think it's 2000 miles - but that's up for debate - what a reunion after a race like that! heh!

IIRC, he is also part Eskimo. Some one earlier today said that McCain could have done better only if he had picked a Native American, and another injected that her husband is.
She was #2 on my list, Pawlenty was #1. The only thing I had against her was that she declined pleas to run for POTUS, so I expected she would also decline the VP slot. she is ONE heck of a woman. Ronald Reagan in a skirt.
I saw her also called Saracudda. That was something from several years ago.
Is she ready to lead? She has more experience real time then Obamanation. he has been away from the senate campaigning most of the time since he was elected.
Foreign experience? She's been there, done that, AND visited the troops in Landstuhl.

664 kuffar  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:17:27pm

Actually. The evidence that human activity is the prime factor in climate change is slim. Based mostly on coincidence and hypothesis to prove that coincidence is the reason. The evidence within this is compelling.

However, outside of it. There is little. Sun has been putting out more energy rather steadily. Ice caps on Mars are diminishing. Etc etc etc.

665 wolfie  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:17:41pm

re: #520 tradewind

Point well taken.
OTOH, it is one thing to hope that someone's little picnic gets wet and to chuckle about it. It is quite another thing to hope that a deadly disaster strikes a city and to giggle at the prospects. This is like the difference between laughing at a (physically harmless) pratfall and laughing at a brain tumor.
When most people "pray" for weather in trivial situations, they really are just hoping. I doubt that any lizard who said "I pray it rains on Obama's parade" actually was addressing a serious prayer to God.
(If they were, I agree with you that they are pretty goofy, to say the least!)

666 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:17:45pm

re: #661 Bobibutu

I get a tingling up my leg every time I think of her agenda.

You 'n me both.

667 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:17:53pm

re: #658 opilio

Kerr's singing voice was actually provided by Marni Nixon.

I had no idea!

668 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:18:28pm

re: #656 Tamron

Hi all. I'd like to mention up front, that I've lived in Alaska for over 40 years and I've been a devoted Palin fan since before she was elected Governor. She has a good, strong handshake, incidentally.

Please note that in my book, the only people that Governor Sarah Palin has pissed off, are those who deserved it. She's had an approval rating of around 80% for several years now, and only seems to step on the toes of those who don't want to lead, don't want to follow, and don't want to get the hell out of the way.

Actually, our annual Alaskan oil bonus check varies between $1k and $2k. This year it'll be about $2,000. for each Alaskan, and since Sarah recently added about $1,200. to that because of Alaska's oil dividends being so high this year, next month each Alaskan resident gets a dividend check of approx $3,200. from this great state. We still have to pay federal income tax on that amount (it is, after all, a dividend and not welfare) but so what? Compare that to California's balance sheet.

"No experience?" Says who? Governor Palin is a successful and popular chief executive, supervising 20,000 employees with an annual budget of over $6 billion. (Please list all the businesses that YOU have managed lately, Barack...) And, to her credit, Sarah Palin is NOT an attorney!

Sarah delivers, folks. Just tell the malcontents to Sit Down and Shut Up, or Get the Hell Out of the Way.
.

WOW - it was about 1K when I was there - Impressive! You go girl!

669 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:19:11pm

re: #655 MandyManners

She's pretty fearless.

Thank God, it is about time we have a leader with balls. Man or woman, 4-8 years of on the job training will give us not only a female president, but, I get the impression she would make one of the greatest presidents we have had, a Reagan/Thatcher type public servant.

670 opilio  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:19:21pm

re: #644 williwonka

It is only DYNAMITE if it is followed up on day after day and even year after year.

The message that should get out is that tpp many leaders in the Democrat party are eager for any disaster that will harm people, because they know they will blame the Republicans for many years for any negative impact on peoples lives.

You know, of course, if it was a recording of Karl Rove (that magnificent bastard) saying those same things, it would be front page on the NYT and WaPo, and more importantly these days, Jon Stewart would air it on the Daily Show every day for weeks.

671 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:19:35pm

re: #585 Irene NYC

Bryn Mawr eh? I'll take that perspective on AK for all its worth.

672 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:19:52pm

re: #639 pat

The biomass has increased 25% in the last 10 years of warming, mostly in upper Northern Hemisphere.

BIOMASS!?!?! ewwwwwww get it OFF ME GET IT OFF ME!

673 Clemente  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:20:06pm

re: #645 razorbacker

...Spare the taser and spoil the child.

I know a few kids whose parents would find that an intriguing policy.

674 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:20:20pm

re: #660 Jimmah

You'll do no such thing, buddy. The UK - my home, alas, is in a delicate state. The addition of Stipes nasal whine is the last thing it needs.

LOL!

:-)

675 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:20:41pm

re: #661 Bobibutu

I get a tingling up my leg every time I think of her agenda.

Is THAT what that is...I was wondering if I needed to see an orthopedic specialist there for a minute!

676 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:20:44pm

re: #630 CapeCoddah

It would go better next to the squirrel.

Hard to tell em apart, both road kill. Bidin is about to get run over by the Alaskan Express.

677 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:21:02pm

re: #648 victor_yugo
Obama's World

"You typical white people are going to have to learn to eat a little less, walk to work, learn to do without central heating. We can learn from Zimbabwe and our Chinese comrades. You have much to atone for, and Michelle has some added thoughts that will be revealed in the morning hour of State TV. Now before we conserve electricity by the volitional cessation of carbon generation, let us stand and sing "Its A Small, Small World".

678 razorbacker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:21:28pm

re: #662 CapeCoddah

Well, one can taser without spanking. I am so glad I got spanked when I needed it. Never made the same mistake twice. Tried lots of other stuff I got spanked for, but, never repeated. Thank god we did not have tasers then. My mother is just crazy enough...

I spanked my daughter twice in her entire life. To hear her tell it to her friends, I was some kind of strict dude.

I asked her about that. She told me that she could tell her friends that and avoid having to go along with the crowd's stupidity. I was her cover.

679 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:21:46pm

re: #670 opilio

EXACTLY!

watch this one being buried by the MSM.

and still no word i see on the mainstream media about Obama's connections to the terrorist Bill Ayers...

680 Archimedes  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:22:01pm

re: #658 opilio

Kerr's singing voice was actually provided by Marni Nixon.

Really? I stand corrected!

681 Shay4l  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:22:06pm

re: #639 pat

The biomass has increased 25% in the last 10 years of warming, mostly in upper Northern Hemisphere.


What do they think about the biomass decreasing? That's FOOD that can be grown.

682 JustMyView  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:22:39pm

re: #585 Irene NYC

Okay, it didn't take long for MoveOn to get out its talking points against Sarah Palin:

Hi:

Just curious . . . are you sure this whole message is from MoveOn? I don't support them, but somehow my email address ended up on their mailing list, and I do get their mailings. I just looked at what's arrived since Palin was picked, and there wasn't anything like this long message.

683 dwigg  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:22:53pm

Drudge now posting RS blog link to Ex-DNC chairman Fowler saying hurricane hit on New Orleans will be "cool".

684 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:22:54pm

re: #678 razorbacker

I was her cover.

You and many others (including my own).

685 Archimedes  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:22:59pm

re: #630 CapeCoddah

It would go better next to the squirrel.

If Huckabee sees it, hide your popcorn popper!

686 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:23:18pm

re: #663 JeremyR

IIRC, he is also part Eskimo. Some one earlier today said that McCain could have done better only if he had picked a Native American, and another injected that her husband is.
She was #2 on my list, Pawlenty was #1. The only thing I had against her was that she declined pleas to run for POTUS, so I expected she would also decline the VP slot. she is ONE heck of a woman. Ronald Reagan in a skirt.
I saw her also called Saracudda. That was something from several years ago.
Is she ready to lead? She has more experience real time then Obamanation. he has been away from the senate campaigning most of the time since he was elected.
Foreign experience? She's been there, done that, AND visited the troops in Landstuhl.

Landsthul...Is that nt where the Obamamessiah refused to go after speaking to the German voting bloc?

687 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:23:52pm

re: #669 CapeCoddah

Thank God, it is about time we have a leader with balls. Man or woman, 4-8 years of on the job training will give us not only a female president, but, I get the impression she would make one of the greatest presidents we have had, a Reagan/Thatcher type public servant.

And, it didn't take a Democrat to do it.

688 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:23:59pm

re: #663 JeremyR

Ronald Reagan in a skirt.
I saw her also called Saracudda

Saracuda is not for nothing!

This Gal has Huevos! And Teeth!

I can't wait for the debates ... Stalking and Shooting Caribou, Moose, in the Bush - etc. heh - this is going to be fun.

689 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:24:26pm

re: #612 Bobibutu

He has his own property and fishing rights for salmon - where she works with him each season - and she greets him at the finish line of the Iron Dog win - loose - or draw. I think it's 2000 miles - but that's up for debate - what a reunion after a race like that! heh!


It appears to me that their marriage is based on:
He supports what she does and she supports what he does.
No matter what.
Rock solid family there although I would assume she yells at him about leaving his clothes on the floor like the rest of us wives do.

And that is the thing, if you read the article that I linked to earlier.
They appear REAL.
Just like us.

690 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:24:40pm

re: #678 razorbacker

I spanked my daughter twice in her entire life. To hear her tell it to her friends, I was some kind of strict dude.

I asked her about that. She told me that she could tell her friends that and avoid having to go along with the crowd's stupidity. I was her cover.

Smart kid, even though the neighbors probably thought you should be imprisoned!

691 pat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:24:59pm

re: #681 Shay4l

True Flora makes up by far the greater portion of biomass on land. In salt water I believe there is still much to be learned. And yes. That is food. For insects, birds, herbivores, omnivores, and finally predators. Billions of tons offood

692 realwest  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:25:06pm

Hey all y'all! Well T-storms and lightning seem to be over, so I can get back on the 'puter!
What have I missed?!

693 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:25:42pm

re: #671 The Shadow Do

Bryn Mawr eh? I'll take that perspective on AK for all its worth.

LOL!

694 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:25:45pm

re: #669 CapeCoddah

Thank God, it is about time we have a leader with balls. Man or woman, 4-8 years of on the job training will give us not only a female president, but, I get the impression she would make one of the greatest presidents we have had, a Reagan/Thatcher type public servant.

In Alaska - if you have fear, you retire to the lower 48.

695 calcajun  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:25:53pm

Hey, my folks made it out of NO and are safely ensconced in Baton Rouge. The other family are preparing to ride it out, convinced that Gustav will hit far to the west. Hope they're right.

Now, here's where it's dangerous. There's a high pressure system over easter LA right now and moving further east. There's another high pressure system over Dallas/east TX and also moving east. In between is a low pressure trough. Gustav might get funneled right up through Barataria Bay and into Jefferson Parish. That's another worst-case scenario they told us about 30+ yeas ago.

We are in for a bumpy few days.

696 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:25:59pm

re: #636 buzzdroid

fair point. good analysis.

although i hasten to add - socialists can be christian, or of another faith.
there is a strong tradition of christian socialism in europe.

whereas the commies are hardcore atheist.

Most Christian Socialists I've met wouldn't know what was inside the Bible if their lives depened on it. All they know is the love message, and frankly, they don't get it either.
They do not understand that the laws of the Pentatuch are there for a reason, as applicable today as ever, and there for our protection.

697 Cognito  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:26:04pm

re: #692 realwest

Hey all y'all! Well T-storms and lightning seem to be over, so I can get back on the 'puter!
What have I missed?!

How are things, there in Cuba?

;)

698 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:26:20pm

re: #604 Irene NYC

"redneck town" ... 10th grade education ...

Man those who wrote that are viscous.

699 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:26:31pm

re: #688 Bobibutu

Ronald Reagan in a skirt.
I saw her also called Saracudda

Saracuda is not for nothing!

This Gal has Huevos! And Teeth!

I can't wait for the debates ... Stalking and Shooting Caribou, Moose, in the Bush - etc. heh - this is going to be fun.

She should take Biden up to Alaska for a little snipe hunt.

700 CIA Reject  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:27:06pm

re: #526 MandyManners

Is there a federal law that requires all parties to a conversation know about any type of recording?

That's the wiretap act and it only applies to conversations over telecommunications circuits.

You can legally record any face to face conversation that you are a party to with or without the consent of the other party. That's how law enforcement gets away with having informants wear wires.

701 jwb7605  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:27:18pm

re: #652 Bobibutu

Yes. A Moose.

bbbbut .... it's OK to shoot a moose out of season.
We're killing the Polar bears and Caribou.

Which reminds me of a story when I was up there this summer:
We were on the bus coming back from the 93-mile gravel road that runs into Denali Park, and on the way back, there was a snowshoe hare, I swear, every quarter mile.

The bus driver said "we stop for almost anything, but not rabbits".

Then he went on to explain "Keep your eye out for fox. About every other year, the fox population decreases, because they killed off the rabbit population the year before. Then, the rabbit population comes back, and the cycle continues". Apparently, this was the feast year for foxes. I shot this photo from the bus window. (if you want the full-res photo, e-mail me offline)

702 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:27:20pm

re: #687 MandyManners

And, it didn't take a Democrat to do it.

Mandy, a Democrat would never be capable of doing it, not enough in the working brain cell department. I like to think of liberals in the sense of Greek mythology, I forget now, but there were 3 witches who shared and passed around an eye. With the dems, I think they pass around one brain. No one has ever met the current holder of said brain, but, legend says there is one out there, ...somewhere!

703 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:27:22pm

re: #692 realwest

Hey all y'all! Well T-storms and lightning seem to be over, so I can get back on the 'puter!
What have I missed?!


Youtube Video

704 calcajun  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:27:27pm

re: #677 pat

Obama's World

"You typical white people are going to have to learn to eat a little less, walk to work, learn to do without central heating. We can learn from Zimbabwe and our Chinese comrades. You have much to atone for, and Michelle has some added thoughts that will be revealed in the morning hour of State TV. Now before we conserve electricity by the volitional cessation of carbon generation, let us stand and sing "Its A Small, Small World".

I was wondering why the Obamas reminded me of Robert Mugabe.

The only consolation from "The One" being POTUS--I don't think he knows how to get anything done.

705 razorbacker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:27:36pm

re: #690 CapeCoddah

Smart kid, even though the neighbors probably thought you should be imprisoned!

Actually, we were the 'cool' parents. Had we been smart, we'd have billed the neighborhood for all the meals we fed their kids.

But we prefered to have them at our place rather than wonder where the heck they were.

706 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:28:12pm

re: #688 Bobibutu

This Gal has Huevos! And Teeth!

She has eggs?

707 Racer X  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:28:20pm

re: #585 Irene NYC


LOL!

Dear classmates, Sarah Palin is a redneck. In fact, up here in Alaska there are a bunch of rednecks. Don't vote for her! She actually killed an animal and ate it! Disgusting.

It is an outrage that John McCain picked her as VP. Obama is much better dontcha think?

708 calcajun  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:28:25pm

re: #698 Ojoe

"redneck town" ... 10th grade education ...

Man those who wrote that are .

"Viscous"? They're oily and flow slowly in cold weather?

709 Intrepid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:28:38pm

re: #315 JSK1121

Anyone seent this video of Don Fowler channeling Michael Moore yet?

[Link: hotair.com...]

These people are disgusting. They're happy that a life and property destroying storm is coming, just so they can win political points?

This needs to be front and center with the MSM, but it won't be. You can bet if any Republican had said anything like this, the MSM would be all over it.

/honor-less cowards

710 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:28:50pm

re: #706 reine.de.tout

Gals are born with eggs

Goodnight.

711 calcajun  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:29:19pm

re: #706 reine.de.tout

She has eggs?

Literally. Any woman who can kill and dress a deer is not to be trifled with.

712 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:29:23pm

re: #699 jcm

She should take Biden up to Alaska for a little snipe hunt.

And, the jackalope hunt.

713 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:29:28pm

re: #708 calcajun

you know, visssh - us.

nasty.

714 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:29:42pm

I haven't seen this site so abuzz in more quite a while. Sure, we're 3 1/2 hours in, but everyone seems so energized.

715 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:29:50pm

re: #696 JeremyR

Most Christian Socialists I've met wouldn't know what was inside the Bible if their lives depened on it. All they know is the love message, and frankly, they don't get it either.
They do not understand that the laws of the Pentatuch are there for a reason, as applicable today as ever, and there for our protection.

When I studied overseas, I met a few students who could be described as Christian Socialists. One thing that impressed me was how well they knew their Bible, at least in translation. I was actually able to have intelligent discussions with them, even while disagreeing with their conclusions. Doing that state-side was difficult at best.

716 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:29:53pm

re: #687 MandyManners

And, it didn't take a Democrat to do it.

HEAR HEAR!

717 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:29:59pm

re: #700 CIA Reject

That's the wiretap act and it only applies to conversations over telecommunications circuits.

You can legally record any face to face conversation that you are a party to with or without the consent of the other party. That's how law enforcement gets away with having informants wear wires.

I did not know that.

718 Price_of_Peace  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:30:01pm

OT- I've monitored this blog for quite awhile before finally hitting an open registration period one night. Then I broke my back and was unable to post for quite awhile. The thing I like best is that most of the people here can express sarcasm, doubt, and even anger without going to the level of craziness I find on other blogs. Is this a reflection someway to the respect you all have for Charles? Politics seems to get my dander (and blood pressure) up fairly quickly, but the humor you all bring to it is a breath of fresh air to how filthy it has gotten the last several cycles. Thanks.

719 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:30:16pm

re: #695 calcajun

Thank God your parents are safe, and prayers for your remaining family, Cal. Hope everyone is OK.

720 tokyobk  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:30:31pm

re: #668 Bobibutu

WOW - it was about 1K when I was there - Impressive! You go girl!

The media has about two weeks to break her and they will try. I happen to believe she will make Biden look like an old condescending fool who will lose in deigning to condescend to her. She will gut him like a fish, and probably skin him of his plugs.

If they are unable to put the Quayle in a dress image into the minds of Americans, or even maker her into a Clarence Thomas, they are going to look very, very bad and on the wrong side of history.

I hope they do try that "you, ma'am are no Hillary Clinton" line on her.
The thing is, she has to say who the hell would want to be Hillary in a way not to piss off the PUMA crowd.

721 realwest  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:30:52pm

re: #697 Cognito
Wet, Cog, very, very wet! LOL!

722 calcajun  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:30:55pm

re: #713 Ojoe

you know, visssh - us.

nasty.

Playin' witcha.

I know whatcha mean.

723 razorbacker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:31:31pm

re: #711 calcajun

Literally. Any woman who can kill and dress a deer is not to be trifled with.

Amongst American Indian tribes, men hunted and killed. Women did the skinning and prepping.

724 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:31:31pm

re: #698 Ojoe

"redneck town" ... 10th grade education ...

Man those who wrote that are viscous.

of course they are - they subscribe to an ideology that killed 100 million people . its called COMMUNISM...

the one thing i regret about the fall of the Soviet Union is that we never had a Nuremberg trial.

725 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:31:51pm

re: #722 calcajun

of corse.

726 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:32:16pm

re: #686 CapeCoddah

Landsthul...Is that nt where the Obamamessiah refused to go after speaking to the German voting bloc?

LOL, yup, she went to visit troops in the hospital last year when it was not about looking cool for the cameras. An Air Force reporter snapped pics of her and they are on line several places.
I found links at Don Surber over at the daily mail.

727 calcajun  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:32:22pm

re: #719 CapeCoddah

Thanks. I'd love to be there and help, but I'd only be one more mouth to feed.

If my church does another relief caravan like they did after Katrina, I'll be all over it.

728 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:32:23pm

re: #706 reine.de.tout

She has eggs?

"Huevos" is the slang term for testicles, on par with "balls."

It might have something to do with their shapes. I dunno.

729 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:32:34pm

re: #702 CapeCoddah

Mandy, a Democrat would never be capable of doing it, not enough in the working brain cell department. I like to think of liberals in the sense of Greek mythology, I forget now, but there were 3 witches who shared and passed around an eye. With the dems, I think they pass around one brain. No one has ever met the current holder of said brain, but, legend says there is one out there, ...somewhere!

There are some smart Democrats. They're in short supply, though.

730 jwb7605  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:32:50pm

re: #712 MandyManners

And, the jackalope hunt.

you must be from Wyomin'

731 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:33:13pm

re: #706 reine.de.tout

She has eggs?

Ovaries.

732 razorbacker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:33:34pm

re: #720 tokyobk


I hope they do try that "you, ma'am are no Hillary Clinton" line on her.

They'd be right. She's not. And that's good.

733 nikis-knight  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:33:59pm

re: #720 tokyobk


The thing is, she has to say who the hell would want to be Hillary in a way not to piss off the PUMA crowd.

Nah. If she want's the PUMA votes w/o pissing off people who aren't a fan of Hillary's wacky policy ideas and creative ideas of character, she should say something along the lines of
"I'm relieved to hear that sir, I've seen what your party did to Hillary Clinton."
Some women really think Hillary was screwed over by super-delagates, caucases, and a pushy msm drooling over the One Zero.

734 Colonel Panik  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:34:15pm

re: #712 MandyManners

And, the jackalope hunt.

They don't have jackalopes in Alaska. They're a SouthWestern critter.

735 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:34:20pm

re: #730 jwb7605

you must be from Wyomin'

I lived in Colorado for a while. I actually believed in jackalopes for a short time.

736 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:34:21pm

re: #696 JeremyR

Most Christian Socialists I've met wouldn't know what was inside the Bible if their lives depened on it. All they know is the love message, and frankly, they don't get it either.
They do not understand that the laws of the Pentatuch are there for a reason, as applicable today as ever, and there for our protection.

fair point. over here in europe , the christian socialists are in bed with the islamists.

just look at the deranged mutterings of the archbishop of canterbury. a deluded fool if ever there was one.

737 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:34:30pm

re: #688 Bobibutu

Ronald Reagan in a skirt.
I saw her also called Saracudda

Saracuda is not for nothing!

This Gal has Huevos! And Teeth!

I can't wait for the debates ... Stalking and Shooting Caribou, Moose, in the Bush - etc. heh - this is going to be fun.

same for me. I wonder if she will have Bidens head, or his testicles.

738 kuffar  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:34:48pm

re: #724 buzzdroid

The one thing I regret about the Soviet Union was that George S. Patton wasn't allowed to take it to the Ruskies and drive to Moscow.

739 slokat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:35:22pm

re: #705 razorbacker

I learned that from my parents & hope someday my kids emulate them also...

740 calcajun  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:35:22pm

re: #732 razorbacker

They'd be right. She's not. And that's good.

Especially in her figure. Unlike Her Thighness, Governor Palin certainly hasn't any cankles. Again, she's the kind of lady that can put steam in a man's strides.

741 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:35:28pm

re: #695 calcajun

Hey, my folks made it out of NO and are safely ensconced in Baton Rouge. The other family are preparing to ride it out, convinced that Gustav will hit far to the west. Hope they're right.

Now, here's where it's dangerous. There's a high pressure system over easter LA right now and moving further east. There's another high pressure system over Dallas/east TX and also moving east. In between is a low pressure trough. Gustav might get funneled right up through Barataria Bay and into Jefferson Parish. That's another worst-case scenario they told us about 30+ yeas ago.

We are in for a bumpy few days.

Glad to hear they are safe.

742 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:35:32pm

re: #718 Price_of_Peace

OT- I've monitored this blog for quite awhile before finally hitting an open registration period one night. Then I broke my back and was unable to post for quite awhile. The thing I like best is that most of the people here can express sarcasm, doubt, and even anger without going to the level of craziness I find on other blogs.

[deleted]

[censored]

that [****] Obama

lousy #$!#%#

743 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:35:41pm

re: #718 Price_of_Peace

OT- I've monitored this blog for quite awhile before finally hitting an open registration period one night. Then I broke my back and was unable to post for quite awhile. The thing I like best is that most of the people here can express sarcasm, doubt, and even anger without going to the level of craziness I find on other blogs. Is this a reflection someway to the respect you all have for Charles? Politics seems to get my dander (and blood pressure) up fairly quickly, but the humor you all bring to it is a breath of fresh air to how filthy it has gotten the last several cycles. Thanks.

Shut up loser
/
;)

744 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:35:44pm

Video of Palin in Iraq.

745 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:35:51pm

re: #734 Colonel Panik

They don't have jackalopes in Alaska. They're a SouthWestern critter.

I thought they were everywhere.

746 wolfie  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:36:00pm

re: #692 realwest

Hey all y'all! Well T-storms and lightning seem to be over, so I can get back on the 'puter!
What have I missed?!

A tooth !

(I sure hope you're feeling better.)

747 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:36:06pm

re: #728 victor_yugo

"Huevos" is the slang term for testicles, on par with "balls."

It might have something to do with their shapes. I dunno.

oh, OK.

748 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:36:31pm

re: #705 razorbacker

Actually, we were the 'cool' parents. Had we been smart, we'd have billed the neighborhood for all the meals we fed their kids.

But we prefered to have them at our place rather than wonder where the heck they were.

We were the same way, they all converged at our house. We, however were considered somewhat mean, because our girls were not allowed to have TV's in the bedrooms, No video games at all, and every April, we called and had the Cable shut off, to get them outside instead of sitting on the couch growing roots. We would have cable turned back on in November (Hubby and I both prefer radio to TV). Both of the girls, now young adults, have now thanked us for this. They both work in management positions, and cannot believe how, well, uneducated their peers at work are. They now understand what we did and why. Those were great moments.

749 Bobblehead  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:36:35pm

re: #721 realwest

Feeling better today?

750 calcajun  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:36:36pm

re: #741 reine.de.tout

Thanx.

Nagin ordered a mandatory evacuation of NO starting tomorrow. Hope he's got all the buses lined up.

751 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:36:45pm

AlJazeera fears warmonger Palin

/Ol' Plugs fears her too

752 razorbacker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:36:45pm

Completely OT.

I cut and split my own firewood. For years I've made do with cheap chainsaws. It was restful, cut for 5 minutes, then fiddle with the chainsaw. Cut for 3 minutes, mess with the chainsaw.

Went and bought a Stihl this week. Blasted thing about wore me out. It goes through wood like a beaver on crack cocaine.

I think I may go back to my Poulan.

753 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:36:45pm

look folks - you're gonna end up with a MILF as president.

how cool is that?

754 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:37:01pm

And then realwest shows up. Could this night get any better?

Heya, buddy. Storms shut you down, huh? I've been hanging out in my back yard for a couple hours.

Lovely night in Minneapolis; gentle breeze, cold beer, flickering flames.

I should maybe fire up iTunes.

755 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:37:05pm
756 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:37:06pm

re: #738 kuffar

The one thing I regret about the Soviet Union was that George S. Patton wasn't allowed to take it to the Ruskies and drive to Moscow.

Think of how many lives-- all over the world-- would've been saved if he had been given orders to do that.

757 realwest  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:37:12pm

re: #703 MandyManners
That was just disgusting. But as a number of us have noted out here over the past several years, a LOT of Dems think if something is BAD for America, it's good for the Dems.
I'm praying that McCain/Palin "happen" to America and the Dems drown in their own bile. And who the hell id Don Fowler anyway?

758 calcajun  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:37:16pm

re: #753 buzzdroid

Amen, Bubba. Dat's a good thing.

759 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:37:31pm

re: #699 jcm

She should take Biden up to Alaska for a little snipe hunt.

A tour of the North Slope and ANWAR might do him good - but I doubt it.

Now, there is a bar just south of Anchorage - damaged in the earthquake, the floor slants, and has a tradition of calling the Ptarmigan (Alaska Bird) with a whistle thru an open window (the bartender sets up the joke - outrageous!) ... that would be a good trip.

(The Japanese got off on it so much they recreated a double in Japan - it is an outrageous success.)

760 ciaospirit  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:37:33pm

re: #738 kuffar

The one thing I regret about the Soviet Union was that George S. Patton wasn't allowed to take it to the Ruskies and drive to Moscow.

I wish he were around to see how right he was.

761 Price_of_Peace  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:37:54pm

re: #742 victor_yugo

[deleted]

[censored]

that [****] Obama

lousy #$!#%#

I rest my case.

lol

762 opilio  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:38:10pm

re: #691 pat

True Flora makes up by far the greater portion of biomass on land. In salt water I believe there is still much to be learned. And yes. That is food. For insects, birds, herbivores, omnivores, and finally predators. Billions of tons offood

While poking around on teh intertubes for more information on the Earth's biomass, I found the following statement which, if true, is a little unsettling:

"There are approximately ten times as many bacterial cells as human cells in the human body."

No wonder I can't seem to lose weight.

763 saberry0530  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:38:21pm

re: #761 Price_of_Peace

Well Put!

764 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:38:28pm

re: #724 buzzdroid

of course they are - they subscribe to an ideology that killed 100 million people . its called COMMUNISM...

the one thing i regret about the fall of the Soviet Union is that we never had a Nuremberg trial.

Very good point Buzz. Without the visuals and public scrutiny of years and years of horror it has never been properly discredited. Hence it still lives.

765 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:38:35pm

re: #715 victor_yugo

When I studied overseas, I met a few students who could be described as Christian Socialists. One thing that impressed me was how well they knew their Bible, at least in translation. I was actually able to have intelligent discussions with them, even while disagreeing with their conclusions. Doing that state-side was difficult at best.

Most of the ones I know are anti Death penalty, anti punishment. They don't get it. My aunt has the Bible memorized, is anti abortion (sorry for mentioning it here Charles) and still votes democrat.

766 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:38:37pm

re: #750 calcajun

Thanx.

Nagin ordered a mandatory evacuation of NO starting tomorrow. Hope he's got all the buses lined up.

No, Jindal has the buses lined up and ready to go. Nagin's just been talking all day.

btw - I'm in BR and if your folks need anything, please contact me (click my avatar for to get my e-mail addy). Although we'll prolly lose electricity and it will be out for days, so contacting me might be an iffy proposition.

767 Archimedes  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:38:42pm

re: #721 realwest

Wet, Cog, very, very wet! LOL!

Cuba Missouri?

768 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:38:47pm

re: #756 MandyManners

Think of how many lives-- all over the world-- would've been saved if he had been given orders to do that.

no Pol Pot. no North Korea.
no Mao Tse Tung. no Vietnam.

incalculable how many lives would have been saved.

769 sngnsgt  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:38:50pm

LOL! B-HO opened SNL...

770 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:38:50pm

re: #744 jcm

Video of Palin in Iraq.

She is a gazillion times more at ease with them than BHO was.

771 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:38:59pm

re: #711 calcajun

Literally. Any woman who can kill and dress a deer is not to be trifled with.

i.e., she knows how to use a knife effectively.

772 nikis-knight  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:39:01pm

re: #740 calcajun

Especially in her figure. Unlike Her Thighness, Governor Palin certainly hasn't any cankles. Again, she's the kind of lady that can put steam in a man's strides.

HRC certainly does nothing for me visually (or politically), but tactically, and civically, I think it'd be worthwhile to keep superficial criticism of her to a minimum, at least in public.

773 jwb7605  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:39:41pm

re: #735 MandyManners

I lived in Colorado for a while. I actually believed in jackalopes for a short time.

In Douglas, Wyoming, they have an eight-foot-tall statue of a Jackalope, dead center in the middle of the town square.
I used to drive from Scottsbluff (Nebraska) to Casper, and stop there for a soda pop/ice cream. If you want to get kids to believe in the Jackalope, all you have to do is take them to Douglas.

774 JSK1121  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:39:44pm

re: #738 kuffar

The one thing I regret about the Soviet Union was that George S. Patton wasn't allowed to take it to the Ruskies and drive to Moscow.

I really hope you're kidding. You do know that both the Nazis and Napoleon's France failed to take Russia. It's impossible to take that gott-damn big country with those winters.

775 razorbacker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:40:17pm

re: #740 calcajun

Especially in her figure. Unlike Her Thighness, Governor Palin certainly hasn't any cankles. Again, she's the kind of lady that can put steam in a man's strides.

I saw that video of her and her husband at the VP announcement. Now I don't mean this in any sort of bad way, but to see his grin as his wife was being lauded...well, it did my black, flinty heart good.

Besides, it looked like he was thinking, "I'm gonna make the next VP of the United States scream out my name tonignt."

776 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:40:21pm

re: #759 Bobibutu

A tour of the North Slope and ANWAR might do him good - but I doubt it.

Now, there is a bar just south of Anchorage - damaged in the earthquake, the floor slants, and has a tradition of calling the Ptarmigan (Alaska Bird) with a whistle thru an open window (the bartender sets up the joke - outrageous!) ... that would be a good trip.

(The Japanese got off on it so much they recreated a double in Japan - it is an outrageous success.)

ANWR in the middle of winter and have him find a caribou.....

777 slokat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:40:31pm

re: #718 Price_of_Peace

cool - fit in & prosper...

778 CIA Reject  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:40:48pm

re: #717 MandyManners

I did not know that.

There's also regional exceptions to the wiretap act depending on what state the call originated from. This was done primarily so that all the spooks in northern Virginia could record their calls without telling anybody.

/But you didn't hear that from me...

779 lurking faith  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:40:49pm

re: #585 Irene NYC

Oooooh, nooooo - her husband doesn't work a desk job! The horror!
/

I wonder if the author of that MoveOn letter has ever even been to Alaska. Seriously, I'm trying to figure out how such an effete snob could survive a single season up there.

And by the way, Wasilla is only 30-40 miles out of Anchorage - darned close by Alaskan standards - so if this twisted witch hates small towns so much, she should just keep on driving; a real city isn't that far off.

780 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:40:51pm

Ploomie, hello there!

When do you expect test results back for your Yorkie?

781 ciaospirit  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:41:05pm

re: #744 jcm

Video of Palin in Iraq.

Does FOX news have that correct? Yesterday I read links that said she has never been to Iraq, only Kuwait.

782 Archimedes  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:41:09pm

re: #770 MandyManners

She is a gazillion times more at ease with them than BHO was.

And the vast majority love her visiting. I'm speaking as a male.

783 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:41:10pm

re: #700 CIA Reject

That's the wiretap act and it only applies to conversations over telecommunications circuits.

You can legally record any face to face conversation that you are a party to with or without the consent of the other party. That's how law enforcement gets away with having informants wear wires.

You can also record any convesation you are party to over the phone. If you are talking to a cop, and he is interupting you and cutting you off, chances are he is recording it and intends to be less then honest with it. They like to ignore the truth, whole truth and nothing but the truth aspect too often.

784 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:41:13pm

re: #735 MandyManners

I lived in Colorado for a while. I actually believed in jackalopes for a short time.

They're real. I have one mounted on my wall, it's an eight pointer!

785 jwb7605  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:41:36pm

re: #755 ploome hineni

..ah

is the the sexorgan thread?

As my (best) (Russian) friend would say: NO, PRECK.

786 Bobblehead  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:41:39pm

re: #750 calcajun

Thanx.

Nagin ordered a mandatory evacuation of NO starting tomorrow. Hope he's got all the buses lined up.


Amazing what a competent governor can do.

787 WriterMom  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:41:42pm

good evening

788 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:41:46pm

re: #770 MandyManners

She is a gazillion times more at ease with them than BHO was.

789 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:41:57pm

re: #757 realwest

That was just disgusting. But as a number of us have noted out here over the past several years, a LOT of Dems think if something is BAD for America, it's good for the Dems.
I'm praying that McCain/Palin "happen" to America and the Dems drown in their own bile. And who the hell id Don Fowler anyway?

Donald L. Fowler (born 1935) served as National Chairman of the Democratic National Committee from 1995 to 1997. (Christopher J. Dodd served as "General Chairman" during this same period.)

Fowler is a political science professor and businessman from South Carolina who has spent most of his adult life in various Democratic Party roles, including state party executive director, state party chair, and CEO of the 1988 Democratic National Convention in Atlanta.[1] Prior to the 1984 Democratic National Convention, he was appointed by party chairman Paul G. Kirk, Jr. to chair the "Fairness Commission," one of many Democratic commissions created to reform the presidential nomination process. Fowler's Fairness Commission banned winner-take-all districts in primaries and caucuses, expanded the reach of the 15% threshold rule, and increased the number of convention superdelegates from 568 in 1980 to 650 in 1988.

790 kuffar  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:42:05pm

re: #760 ciaospirit

Yeah. It is amazing to look at what he said, and realize he was right. If I was McCain, I'd name a warship after him. And form an Armored Division in his name.

791 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:42:31pm

re: #776 jcm

ANWR in the middle of winter and have him find a caribou.....

Caribou have some smarts - they have all moved south long ago.

792 wolfie  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:43:35pm

re: #698 Ojoe

Ojoe, I live in the Appalachians......and I teach college.
You just wouldn't believe the way many profs talk about the ordinary folk around here. I mean my friends and neighbors.
And then they believe they support the party of the "people" and the "poor."
Sometimes I have to excuse myself and go cry. Really.
Sometimes I'm afraid I'll throw a book at someone.

793 Macker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:43:51pm

re: #737 JeremyR

same for me. I wonder if she will have Bidens head, or his testicles.

Yes.

794 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:43:56pm
795 slokat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:44:05pm

re: #775 razorbacker

hmm he & she are catholic... might not play out the way you picture, but will probably be as mutually exciting as you'd hope....
// lutheran sarc?

796 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:44:10pm

re: #768 buzzdroid

no Pol Pot. no North Korea.
no Mao Tse Tung. no Vietnam.

incalculable how many lives would have been saved.

And, Israel would've had an easier time. Uganda. Somalia. Ethiopia.

797 Cognito  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:44:16pm

re: #783 JeremyR

You can also record any convesation you are party to over the phone. If you are talking to a cop, and he is interupting you and cutting you off, chances are he is recording it and intends to be less then honest with it. They like to ignore the truth, whole truth and nothing but the truth aspect too often.

No, that's not true. The law varies from state to state, but typically any parties recorded over the phone must be aware.

The rules are different, of course, with a warrant.

798 cblesz  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:44:17pm

Anyone see the latest from Zogby? Taken right after Palin announcement through today...McCain/Palin = 47% OSlama/Dildo = 45%...AHAHAHAHA...I know it is Zogby,and although many here give him no credit he has been pretty close in the past. Hopefully Gallup will slowly follow.

799 realwest  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:44:19pm

re: #587 Irene NYC
Hey Irene - hope you're still out here. That letter just about sums us a LOT of the differences between many if not most Dems (certainly the "elites") and the rest of America. Just despicable.
Whoever it was that wrote that must be really fucking unhappy to be in Alaska. And I'm such a redneck, that I'm happy for her being there.

800 Price_of_Peace  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:44:35pm

re: #793 Macker

Yes.

Hilary's got the testicles in the "lock box."

801 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:45:14pm

re: #773 jwb7605

In Douglas, Wyoming, they have an eight-foot-tall statue of a Jackalope, dead center in the middle of the town square.
I used to drive from Scottsbluff (Nebraska) to Casper, and stop there for a soda pop/ice cream. If you want to get kids to believe in the Jackalope, all you have to do is take them to Douglas.

Santa Claus. Easter Bunny. Tooth Fairy. Jackalope.

802 Shay4l  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:45:31pm

re: #738 kuffar

The one thing I regret about the Soviet Union was that George S. Patton wasn't allowed to take it to the Ruskies and drive to Moscow.

How far off was the next winter?

They would not have been pushovers.

803 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:45:45pm

re: #781 ciaospirit

Does FOX news have that correct? Yesterday I read links that said she has never been to Iraq, only Kuwait.

Not sure....

804 Silhouette  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:45:47pm

...

805 razorbacker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:45:56pm

re: #792 wolfie

Ojoe, I live in the Appalachians......and I teach college.
You just wouldn't believe the way many profs talk about the ordinary folk around here. I mean my friends and neighbors.
And then they believe they support the party of the "people" and the "poor."
Sometimes I have to excuse myself and go cry. Really.
Sometimes I'm afraid I'll throw a book at someone.

I wouldn't worry about too much, wolfie. Lot's of profs have educamated themselves more and more about less and less till they know absolutely everything about nothing at all.

806 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:46:24pm

re: #799 realwest

Hey realwest...how are you feeling tonight?

807 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:46:25pm

re: #791 Bobibutu

Caribou have some smarts - they have all moved south long ago.

;-) We'll let him look for awhile.

808 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:46:29pm

re: #778 CIA Reject

There's also regional exceptions to the wiretap act depending on what state the call originated from. This was done primarily so that all the spooks in northern Virginia could record their calls without telling anybody.

/But you didn't hear that from me...

I'm just wondering how the Democrats are gonna' fight this story if some major media outlet decides to run it.

ARE YOU LISTENING, FOX?

809 jwb7605  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:46:32pm

re: #801 MandyManners

Santa Claus. Easter Bunny. Tooth Fairy. Jackalope.

Yeah, right (double positive, to enhance your self esteem).
I know the troof about Santa Claus.

810 Silhouette  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:46:43pm

re: #804 Silhouette

...

Oh, come on. I wrote lots more than that!

811 WriterMom  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:46:52pm

re: #792 wolfie

I believe it. Hypocrites. They love the poor, but wouldn't want to live next door to them. The liberal elites loathe the truly downtrodden. It makes me sick. They are the least charitable (money) also.

812 realwest  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:47:08pm

re: #746 wolfie Hi ya wolfie! Yeah, I'm missing a tooth but the pain STILL hasn't subsided very much - one of the reasons I'm still awake is I'm waiting for the pain pills to kick in!

813 gearhead  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:47:12pm

re: #714 Noam Sayin'

I haven't seen this site so abuzz in more quite a while. Sure, we're 3 1/2 hours in, but everyone seems so energized.

I haven't seen Republicans (and at least one conservative independent I know) this pumped since (dare I say it?) Reagan. Palin seems to be reminding people what a "real" Republican looks and acts like. Watching the Dems react like cornered animals has a lot of entertainment value as well.

Are you going to be at or near any of the GOP convention happenings this week?

814 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:47:15pm

re: #790 kuffar

Yeah. It is amazing to look at what he said, and realize he was right. If I was McCain, I'd name a warship after him. And form an Armored Division in his name.

patton was one godamnsonofabitch alright.

i think it was victor davis hansen who pointed out that while fascist/totalitarian states can produce sons of bitches, it was the democracies in times of war that produced even bigger sons of bitches - like patton. because we value our freedom more than the fascists/commies.

a democracy is a lovely and very anti war during peacetime - but by god does it turn ugly should any bastard threaten that peacetime loveliness.

in essense , what he said is that freedom produces warriors that are better than the non-freedom side - we can kick ass big time.

815 Macker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:47:17pm

re: #809 jwb7605

Yeah, right (double positive, to enhance your self esteem).
I know the troof about Santa Claus.

You mean Santa Claus is a government conspiracy? OH NO!

/sarc

816 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:47:26pm

re: #782 Archimedes

And the vast majority love her visiting. I'm speaking as a male.

Not only is she easy on the eyes, she seems to actually focus on the people around her.

817 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:47:37pm

re: #729 MandyManners

There are some smart Democrats. They're in short supply, though.

Knowledge for most people is a set amount. as people get smarter in one area, they loose perspective in others. That is why some very smart people are very narrow minded, and some very broad minded folk appear to be not so bright. Sure there are some with greater capacity, but the sum total is not that greatly diffrent.
The truly smart are the ones who know they don't know as much as they wish they knew, and have a host of people arround them with sharp minds on various subjects, they know how to listen, think and decide.
That is what we don't see in the smart dems, the knowledge that they are not smart in all areas.

818 Bobblehead  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:47:43pm

re: #800 Price_of_Peace

Hilary's got the testicles in the "lock box."

McCain commercials were hitting Obama hard today during the college games here in central Ohio. One right after another. Sometimes 2 in one break. The game is on.

819 WriterMom  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:47:50pm

re: #805 razorbacker

So true. They are so "smart" they are stupid idiots.

820 calcajun  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:47:50pm

re: #738 kuffar

The one thing I regret about the Soviet Union was that George S. Patton wasn't allowed to take it to the Ruskies and drive to Moscow.

Sigh. i lose patience with the "what ifs" of Patton and the Third Army being turned lose on the Ruskies.

The US Third Army consisted of only two corps, or less than 80,000 men. Patton was under Hodges who was under Bradley. He would not have made a dent in the Red Army.

821 Silhouette  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:47:59pm

re: #812 realwest

Hi ya wolfie! Yeah, I'm missing a tooth but the pain STILL hasn't subsided very much - one of the reasons I'm still awake is I'm waiting for the pain pills to kick in!

What did the tooth fairy bring you?

822 Fat Jolly Penguin  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:48:01pm

re: #815 Macker

You mean Santa Claus is a government conspiracy? OH NO!

/sarc

CHRISTMAS EVE WAS AN INSIDE JOB!

////////////////////////

823 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:48:23pm

re: #784 The Shadow Do

They're real. I have one mounted on my wall, it's an eight pointer!

How long did you lie in wait to get it?

824 realwest  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:48:33pm

re: #749 Bobblehead Hey my friend, not really better, but I think I'm adjusting to the pain some - although it did wake me up out of a sound sleep twice last night. Hoping to get some serious sleep tonight! Thanks for asking.
How are you doing tonight?

825 wolfie  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:49:28pm

re: #762 opilio

"There are approximately ten times as many bacterial cells as human cells in the human body."

Opiliofact™

826 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:49:30pm

re: #745 MandyManners

I thought they were everywhere.

We are working on a ferocious bunny. A rabbit with cats jaws and fine fangs.

827 cblesz  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:49:41pm

re: #818 Bobblehead

McCain commercials were hitting Obama hard today during the college games here in central Ohio. One right after another. Sometimes 2 in one break. The game is on.


Which commercials? And how were they hitting Obslama?

828 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:49:48pm

re: #824 realwest


Realwest I thought you might like this
article

829 calcajun  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:49:53pm

re: #766 reine.de.tout

Thanks. I do appreciate it. I think it's a given the power is going down around Tuesday morning. We'll all know more tomorrow evening.

God Bless.

830 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:50:12pm

re: #809 jwb7605

Yeah, right (double positive, to enhance your self esteem).
I know the troof about Santa Claus.

I useta' swear before I had kids that if I ever had any, I'd not tell them those lies.

831 realwest  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:50:18pm

re: #754 Noam Sayin'
HEY NOAM! Yeah, the damn T-Storms and lightning finally let up, but it was nothing at all compared to what Gustavs is gonna do to some poor souls.
Got an unusally long prayer list tonight.
How are you doing buddy?

832 buzzdroid  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:50:33pm

re: #802 Shay4l

How far off was the next winter?

They would not have been pushovers.

its often overlooked that around 1 to 2 million Russians were fighting in the German Wehrmacht.

in fact , during the D-Day landings , around Omaha Beach, most of the German prisoners werent german - they were Ukrainian , Polish - and Russian.

these guys were anti-commie to the core. its not unreasonable that Patton could have come up with a plan to destroy the Red Army from the inside out. it was a hollow shell - only kept together by NKVD fear.

833 Macker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:50:43pm

re: #826 JeremyR

We are working on a ferocious bunny. A rabbit with cats jaws and fine fangs.

It already exists!

834 Cartman  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:50:45pm

re: #766 reine.de.tout

No, Jindal has the buses lined up and ready to go. Nagin's just been talking all day.

That right there just about summarizes our two-party system.

835 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:50:45pm

re: #811 WriterMom

I believe it. Hypocrites. They love the poor, but wouldn't want to live next door to them. The liberal elites loathe the truly downtrodden. It makes me sick. They are the least charitable (money) also.

Folks at work know me as a "right winger" you should see jaws drop when they find out we do foster care. I love letting chew on that one for awhile.

836 JeremyR  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:51:01pm

re: #753 buzzdroid

look folks - you're gonna end up with a VPILF.

how cool is that?

Fixed it for ya ;-)

837 slokat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:51:20pm

re: #812 realwest

Is this day 4 of 14?

Wish I had a silver bullet for you...

838 Irene NYC  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:51:21pm

re: #682 JustMyView

Hi:

Just curious . . . are you sure this whole message is from MoveOn? I don't support them, but somehow my email address ended up on their mailing list, and I do get their mailings. I just looked at what's arrived since Palin was picked, and there wasn't anything like this long message.

This is not directly from MoveOn. This was clearly put together by a MoveOn person using MoveOn talking points and then sent out to "friends."

839 swamprat  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:51:39pm

Palin seems to be this sort of woman


Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.

I met a fair maiden whose name I don't know;
I asked her to the roundup with me would she go;
She said she'd go with me to the cold roundup,
And drink that hard liquor from the cold, bitter cup.

We started for the canyon in the fall of the year
Expecting to get there with a herd of fat steer;
And the rustlers broke on us in the dead hours of night;
She 'rose from her warm bed, a battle to fight.

She 'rose from her warm bed with a gun in each hand,
Said: Come all of you cowboys and fight for your land,
Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.

Bad version here

840 razorbacker  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:51:44pm

Got a long drive south tomorrow, so I'm to bed. See youse guys next week.

And realwest, shame that you don't drink. Grandpa always said the best toothache medicine was a shot of whiskey held in your mouth for a moment, then swallowed.

'Course it had to be repeated frequently, but all medicines have their drawbacks.

841 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:51:48pm

re: #756 MandyManners

Think of how many lives-- all over the world-- would've been saved if he had been given orders to do that.

We couldn't have done it. My grandfather was nearly drafted (he was in his 40's at the time) and we needed people to defeat Japan. It just wasn't possible - not enough people, not enough guns, not enough money, not enough support for ANOTHER war. We let the Russians take Berlin for that very reason, to let THEM bleed for it because we couldn't.

It would have been nice to do, but it just wasn't to be, unfortunately.

842 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:52:05pm

re: #826 JeremyR

We are working on a ferocious bunny. A rabbit with cats jaws and fine fangs.

Name it Jimmah.

843 jcm  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:52:07pm

re: #831 realwest

HEY NOAM! Yeah, the damn T-Storms and lightning finally let up, but it was nothing at all compared to what Gustavs is gonna do to some poor souls.
Got an unusally long prayer list tonight.
How are you doing buddy?

It looks like it's going to hit CAT5 and hit west of NOLA. That means the on shore winds will be right at NOLA.

844 victor_yugo  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:52:10pm

Okay, I'm off to have some fun on the computer. Not games, probably benchmark-running, just for the heckuvit.

Catch you in a few hours.

845 realwest  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:52:35pm

re: #766 reine.de.tout
Hey hi there! I don't know if you saw it, but I got your information about evacuating with pets to Teacake - thanks a lot for it - hope she puts that information to good use and gets outta N.O.!
Uh, where is BR?!

846 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:52:43pm

re: #823 MandyManners

How long did you lie in wait to get it?

I tricked it into giving itself up in an Estes Park gift shop. Dumb old jackalope.

847 gearhead  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:52:44pm

Nice to have you back, realwest.

848 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:52:45pm

re: #813 gearhead

Are you going to be at or near any of the GOP convention happenings this week?

I work in downtown St. Paul, so I'm going to bring my cameras with me.

I think I'm going to check out the layout tomorrow, as I have to plan my commute around the barricades. I was also thinking of dropping down there on Monday and make some pictures, But this weekend is going to be so gorgeous that most of my activities will be directed by where I feel like being on my scooter at any given moment.

849 calcajun  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:52:56pm

re: #832 buzzdroid

Oh please. Those bastards had been fighting for the Rodina --the Motherland-- not for Communism. They had been invaded twice in less than 40 years and had more than 50 million dead. They were not about to let a bunch of Yankee cowboys run all over them. It wold have never worked.

850 Irene NYC  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:53:03pm

JustMyView,

When I said "clearly put together by a MoveOn person" what I meant was that I know the person who sent it to me. Sorry if you were confused by my very confusing syntax.
;)

851 wright1  Sat, Aug 30, 2008 8:53:40pm

re: #798 cblesz

Anyone see the latest from Zogby? Taken right after Palin announcement through today...McCain/Palin = 47% OSlama/Dildo = 45%...AHAHAHAHA...I know it is Zogby,and although many here give him no credit he has been pretty close in the past. Hopefully Gallup will slowly follow.

I saw the poll and frankly I am astounded. I could not have hoped for a better 48 hours. Suddenly the annointment of the annointed one may just be in jeopardy. And this is with a media where the fix is in. I have said it before and I will say it again, the libs keep underestimating the intelligence of Americans and that is why