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Biden to Israel: Get Used to Iranian Nukes - Update: Biden Denies

Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:19:56 am PDT

Israel’s Army Radio is reporting that Obama’s running mate Joe Biden told Israeli officials they would have to learn to stop worrying, and love the Iranian bomb.

Security officials expressed concern Monday over statements reportedly made by US Democratic vice presidential candidate Joseph Biden regarding Iran’s nuclear program.

Army Radio reported that the Delaware senator was heard saying in closed conversations with Jerusalem officials three years ago that he was firmly opposed to an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

Biden, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, reportedly claimed that Israel would likely have to come to terms with a nuclear Iran. He reportedly expressed doubt over the effectiveness of economic sanctions imposed on the Islamic Republic and said he was against the opening of an additional military and diplomatic front, saying that the US had more pressing problems, such as North Korea and Iraq.

Change!

UPDATE at 9/1/08 12:14:36 pm:

Biden spokesperson David Wade says this report is false.

Biden spox David Wade said the unsourced report is simply false.

“This is a lie peddled by partisan opponents of Senators Obama and Biden,” said Wade, “and we will not tolerate anyone questioning Senator Biden’s 35-year record of standing up for the security of Israel. Joe Biden’s first trip as a Senator was to Israel, he has worked with every Israeli leader from Golda Meir to Prime Minister Olmert, and he takes a back seat to no one when it comes to protecting the relationship between Israel and the US.”

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Tags: Election 2008, Barack Obama, Vice President, Joe Biden, Israel, Iran, Nuclear Weapons

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SpartanWoman Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:21:54am

And this is Mr Foreign policy "chops"? More like lambchops for the mullahs

Billy Hank Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:22:04am

Change indeed.

aunursa Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:22:41am

Kirk to Kang: Fine. No tricks once we're aboard.
Israel to Biden: Fine. No attacks once you're inaugurated.

Americain Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:23:06am

Joe Biden: The gift that keeps on giving.

jemima Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:23:12am

The true Democrat-completely flaccid

galloping granny Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:23:15am

I do not find this surprising at all, particularly in light of reports I read last week claiming that Zbigniew_Brzezinski had given an interview to the Russians telling them to simply ignore anything the US said about the Georgian situation. . . . I'll see if I can find it.

lostlakehiker Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:23:29am

If it's not on tape and vouched for by credible witnesses, it's not much of a story. How is the public to distinguish this report from any random product of the rumor mill?

SpartanWoman Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:23:36am

John McCain or Down the Drain!

jcm Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:23:47am

Foreign Policy Expert may ass!

McCain and company need to make an ad out of that PDQ.

spidly Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:24:05am

goood. well that'll go well for him in a debate.

galloping granny Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:24:13am

re: #6 galloping granny

I do not find this surprising at all, particularly in light of reports I read last week claiming that Zbigniew_Brzezinski had given an interview to the Russians telling them to simply ignore anything the US said about the Georgian situation. . . . I'll see if I can find it.

Here - [Link: news.google.com...]

Ojoe Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:24:59am

Biden wants to make the mistake we made in letting Hitler build up his war making abilities.

Moron.

loppyd Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:25:14am

Biden's big yap will be his downfall.

Kosh's Shadow Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:25:24am

Biden doesn't realize that the US is the "Great Satan" and Israel is only the "Little Satan"? He thinks the US will be safe if Iran has nuclear weapons?
Or is he planning to turn the US Shi'ite?

Bobblehead Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:25:36am

Charles, somehow I knew you'd lead off with this story today. Scary, isn't it?

MandyManners Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:25:49am

Mandy to Biden: GET USED TO YOUR CHAIR IN THE SENATE.

Ojoe Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:25:57am

re: #8 SpartanWoman

WU ! Extra powerful words! May they go far!

vagabond trader Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:26:10am

Jewess to Biden:

Get used to saying "Good morning Madam Vice President, would you like cream and sugar in your coffee?"

Bobblehead Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:26:29am

re: #16 MandyManners

Mandy to Biden: GET USED TO YOUR CHAIR IN THE SENATE.

Hillary will keep it warm for him.

laZardo Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:26:32am

Funny he should mention Iraq being more pressing, seeing as how it and Afghanistan, both with significant US troop presence, both surround Iran...

/not ha-ha funny

littleoldlady Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:26:40am

littleoldlady to Biden: Get used to Losing

/should be second nature to you already, anyway.

Ojoe Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:27:01am

Let's ding up No. 8 and get it into the top 10.

spidly Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:27:14am

In polling, McCain was getting something ridiculous like about half the Jewish vote a while back. This should give him a boost

Jed 1899 Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:27:58am

Rove you magnificent bastard!

goddessoftheclassroom Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:28:09am

re: #18 vagabond trader

Jewess to Biden:

Get used to saying "Good morning Madam Vice President, would you like cream and sugar in your coffee?"

I'd bet SarahCuda takes her coffee black...I admire those who do because I have to have sweetener and creamer!

Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:28:17am

Israel needs to take out Iran's nukes before the election.

Pullus Iulius Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:28:22am

Biden has spent most of his career as a minority member of Senate Foreign Relations. His job has been to bluster and strut and fume and try to make the tiniest of incremental changes on policy. And mostly to be a loser. The loser mentality is strong in this one.

littleoldlady Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:28:32am

re: #8 SpartanWoman

John McCain or Down the Drain!

Bumperstickers 'R Us!

:-)

WriterMom Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:28:42am

If he has a track record of pro-Israel voting, I'm willing to wait for a statement for him to clarify. I believe it's possible that this is his position-it wouldn't suprise me, but I think it's important to have another source-or to hear his official position about these rumours.

spidly Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:29:23am

re: #20 laZardo

is that LaZardo as in Emelio LaZardo?

WriterMom Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:29:26am

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Israel needs to do that YESTERDAY.

loppyd Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:29:26am

re: #28 littleoldlady

Bumperstickers 'R Us!

:-)

I want to make a Karl Rove is My Hero t-shirt.

littleoldlady Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:29:37am

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Israel needs to take out Iran's nukes before the election.

Before January 20.

WriterMom Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:30:11am

It seems like Biden would get along very well with Israel's current crop of loser leaders if this is really the case.

loppyd Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:30:14am

re: #29 WriterMom

If he has a track record of pro-Israel voting, I'm willing to wait for a statement for him to clarify. I believe it's possible that this is his position-it wouldn't suprise me, but I think it's important to have another source-or to hear his official position about these rumours.

He is pro-Biden. Anything that will help that cause it open to him....

jordank Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:30:27am

Seems Israel isn't too keen on attacking Iran either

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

spidly Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:31:07am

Biden is a Rove plant?

Luigi Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:31:13am

Frankly, it's hard to tell the true meaning of this, if the report is true at all. He may be spearheading a Democratic effort to encourage Israel and America to 'take care' of Iran before he and Obama are saddled with the problem. Or, it may be he is acting in the national interest by throwing shadows and casting confusion before a military action. Or, he may know for a fact that the action will come soon and he is pre-emptively deflecting away from the Democratic party any criticism of the action that can come from their buddies in the Muslim world.

I'm not sure this Dutch development has been covered here, but it adds to the expectation of an attack soon...

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

The Dutch intelligence service has pulled an agent out of an "ultra-secret operation" spying on Iran's military industry because spymasters in Netherlands believe a United States air attack was imminent.

DaveinMD Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:31:20am

So now they throw ISRAEL under the bus. What a surprise.

littleoldlady Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:31:33am

re: #32 loppyd

I want to make a Karl Rove is My Hero t-shirt.

I'd buy it! Maybe we should set up an account at Cafepress. ;-)

WriterMom Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:31:37am

re: #35 loppyd

lopps-don't get me wrong, I think we (the free world) are totally f*cked if Obama wins...I just think it would be great to hear from him about this particular story-it would really clarify things.

laZardo Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:31:38am

re: #30 spidly

No, it's actually a play on the Japanese name for this, which later became this.

galloping granny Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:31:59am

re: #16 MandyManners

Mandy to Biden: GET USED TO YOUR CHAIR IN THE SENATE.

You know, I really am thinking that it is about time to retire more than a few of these Congress Critters - starting with Obama, Biden and Pelosi. They have been lining their own pockets instead of conducting business on behalf of We The People for FAR too long.

pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:33:16am

re: #9 jcm

Foreign Policy Expert may ass!

McCain and company need to make an ad out of that PDQ.

Not quite. FIRST, it needs to be substantiated from other sources PDQ. It's just too good a "whack" to get sloppy over.

SpartanWoman Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:33:21am

Isn't Biden the guy who wanted to strip any aid to Israel in 82? He hasn't changed a bit, he's just kept quiet about it until his time to strike presented itself

vagabond trader Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:33:33am

re: #43 galloping granny

Term limits. 2 and out. Why should it be any different than the POTUS.

galloping granny Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:33:55am

re: #39 DaveinMD

So now they throw ISRAEL under the bus. What a surprise.

Israel never got on the Dem bus.

doriangrey Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:34:08am

re: #40 littleoldlady

I'd buy it! Maybe we should set up an account at Cafepress. ;-)

Heh heh heh I already have a cafepress account.... send me the graphics you want and I set you up..... Dont forget to buy one of my CD's while you are there.... ;)

Bobblehead Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:34:30am

re: #32 loppyd

I want to make a Karl Rove is My Hero t-shirt.

I ordered on of these. Love it!

spidly Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:38:25am

re: #42 laZardo

thought maybe you wanted to conquer the 8th dimension.
love buckaroo bonzai

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:39:13am

And yet it is being reported the Dutch Intelligence Service is curtailing a sneak and smash mission against the Iranian centrifuges because of a soon to happen US attack. Something is not adding up.

Once again Mr. "Foreign Policy Expert" Biden opens his mouth and firmly inserts his foot. With experts like this who needs enemies.

Sizzlack Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:39:35am

Wow I didn't know that by bringing Biden on board that Obama would be making appeasement one of the focal points of his foreign policy.

PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:40:24am

Any word on what percentage of Jews still want to vote for Obama bin Biden?

vagabond trader Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:41:37am

re: #53 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican

Plenty, unfortunately.

hotel_2_oscar Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:42:04am

Slow Joe...

What part of NEVER AGAIN! don't you understand?

KBO

Perplexed Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:42:32am

Biden capitulated? Now as to the Jewish vote the democrats usually heavily rely on do you suppose the 'rats would get it this time around.

calcajun Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:43:24am

Wow. At least Neville Chamberlain's hair was his own. Perhaps Biden should have kept the bald look.

Sizzlack Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:43:31am

re: #55 hotel_2_oscar

Slow Joe...

What part of NEVER AGAIN! don't you understand?

KBO

The never part clearly. All he sees is Again, Again, Again...etc.

jcm Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:43:59am

I'm not going to link all the stories, long time lizards have seen them all.

Iran is working on a nuke, El Baridei has said it would be by the end of '08 or early '09.

Dinnerjacket and various members of the Mad Mullah Mob have repeatedly threatened the destruction of Israel.

Iran has been working up grading their missiles to satellite launch capability. Satellite launch if they can launch ICBMS. Accuracy is another issue but not needed, read on.

Iran has also be working on surface sea launch in the Caspian Sea.

Putting all the piece together the scenario I see coming down the pipe:
Iran launches a two prong assault, the main attack is against Tel Aviv and depending on number of war heads other targets in Israel. The other is out of the Cold War book (called depressed trajectory, it gives NORAD less than 5 minute warning), a ship in international waters off the CONUS launches, this warhead is detonated at 300nm in altitude over Kentucky. The produce a EMP which would zorch every electronic device on the East Coast. Effectively paralyzing the US.

Because there are no direct causalities in such an attack, there will be pressure on the US internally and externally not to respond.

The thinking in Iran is such a thing will prevent a US response. The problem is critical government and military hardware is hardened against EMP,

That's worst case, put there are a lot of pieces point to something like that.

Biden is worst than a fool. Such imbecilic statements encourage regimes like Iran.

1AmeriCAN Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:44:08am

Biden is priceless just like BO.

Hopefully if this is true, it makes the headlines and people start realizing that these people will be weak and ineffective leaders that won't even deliver on the few things they actually do spell out.

"Change or more of the same" - laughable.

JSK1121 Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:44:11am

re: #23 spidly

In polling, McCain was getting something ridiculous like about half the Jewish vote a while back. This should give him a boost

You can count me and pretty much my entire family of being on the McCain Train. I've done a good job in educating those fools. Shiiiit, my aunt used to be a Hippie and now she's seen the light.

spidly Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:44:35am

re: #53 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican

Obama should be getting the typical 90%, but I saw a poll months back where he's getting about 50. have no idea where that stands today.

laZardo Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:47:12am

re: #50 spidly

Well, I would say what inter-dimensional reptilian clique I'm part of, but I only say that to see the reaction from a certain demented sports commentator. n.=.n

Macker Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:48:42am

re: #43 galloping granny

You know, I really am thinking that it is about time to retire more than a few of these Congress Critters - starting with Obama, Biden and Pelosi. They have been lining their own pockets instead of conducting business on behalf of We The People for FAR too long.

Wouldn't it be great if Biden not only lost the Presidential Election, but also his Senate Seat at the same time? He's up for re-election for that too!

jcm Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:50:45am

I've been on the fence about donating to McCain.

Obama / Biden is so patently DANGEROUS to the safety and security of this country I just sent $200.

Alouette Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:51:43am

Wow, and Jewish libturds are complaining because Sarah once wore a Puke-cannon button 12 years ago.

Ringo the Gringo Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:52:00am

Get Used to Iranian Nukes

Hopefully Joe Biden will soon be getting used to a female Republican Vice President.

laZardo Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:53:03am

re: #59 jcm

I'm taking the "EMP" bit with a grain of salt. We've seen North Korea's nuke tests, I'm not holding my breath on the quality of Iran's first nuke test. If they decide to launch an untested product, it may as well backfire on them...

Miss Molly Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:53:31am

Joe Biden seems to care about 2 things: being in front of a TV camera struting his "I know everything" attitude and looking at himself in a mirror.

Macker Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:55:00am

re: #69 Miss Molly

Joe Biden seems to care about 2 things: being in front of a TV camera struting his "I know everything" attitude and looking at himself in a mirror.

More like "LOOK HOW BIG MY D**K IS!"

Sunlight Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:55:49am

Biden's words were 3 years ago? I've seen this item, but some of the others sound like it happened last week... the timing could be important given that it was easier to think things would be fine 3 years ago.

HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:57:50am

re: #24 Jed 1899

Rove you magnificent bastard!

From the desk of Karl Rove
McCain you magnificent bastard!
-Karl

pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, Sep 1, 2008 8:59:20am

re: #72 HoosierHoops

From the desk of Karl Rove
McCain you magnificent bastard!
-Karl

These are the kind of Karl marks I LIKE!

/begging forgiveness, the compulsion was impossible to resist

jcm Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:00:17am

re: #68 laZardo

I'm taking the "EMP" bit with a grain of salt. We've seen North Korea's nuke tests, I'm not holding my breath on the quality of Iran's first nuke test. If they decide to launch an untested product, it may as well backfire on them...

That's all true, hence my worst case disclaimer. My point is Iran is up to something. Something very much in the not good column.

Biden's talk not a contrary view, it is DANGEROUS. Such talk is view in place like Tehran, Damacus, Pyongyang, and caves of Afghanistan as weakness. The unwillingness and inability to fight.

Such talk INVITES more attacks. It encourages Iran in what ever plans they have because it signals we WILL DO NOTHING!

Biden's statement is one the most reckless, dangerous, utterly incompetent things to say in such a situation.

We have to be prepared for what Iran could do if everything goes right for them. Biden has signaled surrender.

spidly Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:00:22am

re: #63 laZardo

Well, I would say what inter-dimensional reptilian clique I'm part of, but I only say that to see the reaction from a certain demented sports commentator. n.=.n

holy cow. so that episode of csi was talking about real people. hadn't heard of those nuts

eff Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:01:03am

Note that this quote was from 3 years ago -- that has a slight mitigating effect for me. I'm with Writer Mom on this... I want to hear Obama/Biden react.

laZardo Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:02:41am

re: #75 spidly

Honestly, I'd rather have scalies running the world instead of... furries.

/hrrrrrgh furries

spidly Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:04:43am

re: #77 laZardo

Honestly, I'd rather have scalies running the world instead of... furries.

/hrrrrrgh furries

you haven't seen my mole outfit, hubba hubba

Dave the..... Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:05:51am

I am skipping the counter-protest in St Paul today...too hot out. But heard on the radio just now that instead of the expected 50,000, there are "only a few hundred". Now, I think it is to kick off like a noon, so I would expect a large number of moonbats anyway, just maybe not 50K. The radio lady said one of the signs says:

"John McCain is a war criminal"

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:06:10am

re: #77 laZardo

Honestly, I'd rather have scalies running the world instead of... furries.

/hrrrrrgh furries

Excuse me?!? You have a problem with a furry lizard?!?

Dave the..... Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:07:21am

Any word on what percentage of Jews still want to vote for Obama bin Biden?

One of the themes of todays so called peace march in St Paul is anti-Israel, but know what, the Jews will still vote Democratic.

laZardo Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:09:08am

re: #80 FurryOldGuyJeans

By furries I meant the anthropomorphic mammals. q: Scalies are anthropomorphic reptiles (regardless of their choice of hide.)

jemima Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:09:17am

#41 WriterMom--
lopps-don't get me wrong, I think we (the free world) are totally f*cked if Obama wins...I just think it would be great to hear from him about this particular story-it would really clarify things.

Standard Dem explanation--You're not listening to me closely enough. It was just a joke. It was sarcasm. I don't really mean anything like that, I don't believe anything like that and if I did I would apologize for offending anyone. Okay?

sparrowlake Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:14:53am

re: #13 loppyd

Biden's big yap will be his downfall.

Exactimundo!

BrianA Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:16:14am

Bombs away!

buzzsawmonkey[deleted] Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:20:37am

eaglewingz08 Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:26:40am

Funny how that subject of Biden's view on Israel and Iran never made it on the 60 Minutes Barack interview last night.
Also thinking (it occasionally happens), that Sarah is nicknamed Baracuda, yet Barack Obama, never had the nickname Barackuda, although it would be natural if he had the least bit of gumption (manliness) in him.

Perplexed Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:28:53am

OT Sarah Palin's 17 yr old daughter is pregnant and will marry the father.

eon Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:38:38am

As David Weber and John Ringo might put it, in foreign affairs Biden is a "creature of the deal". He believes that if we find out what an enemy wants and simply give it to them, without preconditions, they will cease to be an enemy, or at least go away and stop bothering us. Sacrificing allies is just part of the "deal", as far as he's concerned; as has been said of the Clintons, "progressives" like Biden do not have friends, they have meaningful relationships with associates who can be abandoned at need. (Theirs.)

Where his theory fails is when dealing with an enemy whose "wants" include a world in which they rule, and we don't exist.

I suspect that Joe would wake up to the reality about the time we lost an American city or two to an Iranian-built, terrorist-delivered WMD of the fission type. At which point, we are right back to Wretchard's 3 Conjectures.

And even then, he would be on the phone to Ahmadinejad, or Assad Jr., or somebody, saying "what do you want?"

(At which point, they say; "A world in which America does not exist. Thank You for making it possible." And hang up.)

Far from having "foresight", Biden is incapable of hearing the train when it's two feet from him.

That's what makes him a perfect match for Obama. Rather like Ambrose Bierce's famously scurrilous definition of love, theirs is a partnership in which each of them senses dominance due to the other's stupidity.

cheers

eon

pegcity Mon, Sep 1, 2008 9:50:31am

get used to not being vice president

SpiritOf1683 Mon, Sep 1, 2008 10:18:08am

re: #12 Ojoe

Biden wants to make the mistake we made in letting Hitler build up his war making abilities.

Moron.

And how ironic this has come on the 69th anniversary of the start of World War II. And this war and everything that came with it - 60 million deaths, the Holocaust etc, happened because the West had too many weak politicians in positions of power during the all-important 1933-38 era - politicians just like Biden who deliberately turned a Nelsonian blind eye to German rearmament and the contents of Mein Kampf, and took absolutely no notice of the inflammatory antisemitism and the promises of conquest in Hitler's speeches. The politicians of then knew what was being planned and chose to do nothing. It is obvious that if If Churchill knew what Hitler was up to, then so did the rest of the world leaders. But antiwar politicians chose to try to blacken Churchills name by denigrating him as a warmonger, in the forlorn belief that this, and giving in to Hitler at every opportunity was the way to avoid war. Instead, all these fools did was ensure that when war came, it would be far bloodier than striking pre-emptively in 1935 or 1936, when Hitler could have been toppled at far less cost. But the more you look at the world of 70 or so years ago, the more familiar it seems to get with every passing day. Many of the dynamics of the 1930s are at work today. We have spineless politicians and populations who want to do nothing about Iran. Like Hitler, Ahmadinejad and the mad mullahs are planning the mass murder of Jews, and like the Chamberlains, Baldwins, Daladiers etc, a deaf ear is being turned.

Colonel Panik Mon, Sep 1, 2008 10:36:43am

re: #51 FurryOldGuyJeans

And yet it is being reported the Dutch Intelligence Service is curtailing a sneak and smash mission against the Iranian centrifuges because of a soon to happen US attack.

Dutch Infiltrators! The mullahs will be uneasy from now on, listening for the clatter of clogs on the pavement behind them.

Sounder Mon, Sep 1, 2008 11:12:41am

Well then, there will likely be a strike between Nov 4 and Jan 20, by Israel, alone if necessary. What choice do they have?

norar Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:36:05pm

I believe Gla"tz over Biden spox any time.

perdiem Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:34:57pm

Here is Joe Biden's recent statement........Nov 29, 2007 ... Joe Biden stated unequivocally that he will move to impeach President Bush if he bombs Iran without first gaining congressional approval. ...January 12th Iranian PT boats harass US ships in Straights of Hormuz.......Atta boy Joe!

nines09 Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:25:33pm

I was concerned there for a moment. Age, I presume. So all Joe has to do, if he is VP, is to convince Barack that Israel should not do something illogical, like try to stop Iran or any other regime that has Israels grave marker in mind as a historical note? Wow... I feel so much better. Wait, my left arm is numb....

Mustang0302 Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:29:19pm

"David Wade? Why, I wouldn't use that guy's hairbrush!" - DYKWIA?

Sacred Plants Tue, Sep 2, 2008 4:55:30am

More and more countries are trying to obtain nukes as a talisman which they believe would disburden them from solving their problems.

The number one foreign policy nerd of the other party is trying to taboo any serious debate over the most acute case of this problem.

Europeans trying to disarm themselves from nuclear sharing deals to work out a consistent stance against the nuclear superstition will increasingly experience the foreign policy of the other party as a problem.