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Republican Convention Opens

Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 12:49:52 pm PDT

The GOP convention in St. Paul, Minnesota is now launching (in somewhat muted fashion), so here’s a conventional discussion thread...

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1 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:50:32pm

nothing to see there for a while

2 Irish Rose  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:50:44pm

Very good.

3 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:52:26pm

Waaaaay classier stage than Las Vegas in the Rockies!

4 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:52:53pm

Just necessary business today, acceptance of delegates credentials.

5 BrianA  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:53:46pm

Anarchists prepare to bathe in teargas.

6 Bobblehead  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:53:52pm

I believe Laura Bush is speaking tonight. Always a pleasure to listen to our classy First Lady.

7 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:55:26pm
Waaaaay classier stage than Las Vegas in the Rockies!

My wife likened it the production of Jesus Christ Superstar. HEY-BA-MA, O-BA-MA!

8 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:56:31pm

re: #5 BrianA

Anarchists prepare to bathe in teargas.

It's organic too!

9 Bill Amos  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:57:03pm

You knw the left is attack Sarah Palin's daughter for having a baby they better start worrying more about Joe Biden's son Beau


Business dealings of Biden family could be problematic for him
Scott Olson / Getty Images
Sen. Joe Biden fields questions as his son Hunter Biden looks on at a campaign stop in December, 2007, prior to the elder Biden's dropping out of the race for the Democratic nomination.
His brother and sons have close ties to a law firm that has benefited from the senator's congressional votes.

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

10 BrianA  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:57:35pm

re: #8 jcm

It's organic too!

Green canisters!

11 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:57:47pm

re: #5 BrianA

Anarchists prepare to bathe in teargas.

Hallelujah! They're gonna' take a bath!

12 yah  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:57:48pm

In case you have not visited lately, they are obsessed with her.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

13 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:57:53pm

re: #8 jcm

It's organic too!

made that point to a protester hassling the police a couple years ago.
"you gunna use your chemical weapons on me?!"

dude, pepper extract, all natural

15 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:59:11pm

re: #13 spidly

made that point to a protester hassling the police a couple years ago.
"you gunna use your chemical weapons on me?!"

dude, pepper extract, all natural

That's what the instructors told us just before they gleefully gave us a face full.

16 6pat6  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:59:21pm

re: #12 yah

I try really hard to visit that place only when absolutely necessary.

17 CMinMN  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 12:59:42pm

Just left St. Paul where the protests were going on. A lot of well armed police seemed to control the crowd. There were a few altercations including some people sitting in front of an empty charter bus and they were quickly removed by some visiting Minneapolis police on horseback. The demonstrators say they were sprayed but I was right there and did not witness that. They poured water in their eyes trying to get media attention which they did get. I saw several instances of this where they were acting as they had been sprayed only looking for cameras and then giving them space to film the act once the cameras did show up.

18 Pullus Iulius  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:00:09pm

Everything this campaign does is outside the mold. And, unlike some other "New Ideas" campaigns I've worked on, this one seems to be run by sane individuals. I'm glad I've been able to see this.

19 pat  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:00:10pm

What is this about sand bags on buses? That sounds like attempted murder.

20 Alouette  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:00:22pm
About 200 people from a group called Funk the War noisily staged its own separate march. Wearing black clothes, bandanas and gas masks, some of their members smashed windows of cars and stores. They tipped over newspaper boxes, pulled a big trash bin into the street, bent the rear view mirrors on a bus and flipped heavy stone garbage bins on the sidewalks.

One man who seemed to be the leader of the group carried a yellow flag with the motto "Don't Tread on Me." The group chanted: "Whose streets? Our streets!"

Meanwhile, a group of about 100 anarchists pushed a trash bin filled with trash and threw garbage in the streets and at cars. They also took down orange detour road signs. One of them used a screwdriver to puncture the back tire of a limousine waiting at an intersection and threw a wooden board at the vehicle, denting its side. Another hurled a glass bottle at a charter bus that had stopped at an intersection. The bottle smashed into pieces but didn't appear to damage the bus.

Stay classy, guys!

21 rorschach  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:01:14pm

These conventions have become all about playing to the media, looking for the almighty "bounce".

It's about time at least one of the parties adopted a business-like attitude and focused on getting something done for a change.

McCain and Palin will do the heavy lifting, starting next weekend.

22 6pat6  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:01:23pm

re: #17 CMinMN

They'll do that once after getting sprayed with a fire hose. Tremendous crowd pleaser! Knocks them back about 50 to 100 feet, if done properly!

23 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:01:30pm

re: #17 CMinMN

Just left St. Paul where the protests were going on. A lot of well armed police seemed to control the crowd. There were a few altercations including some people sitting in front of an empty charter bus and they were quickly removed by some visiting Minneapolis police on horseback. The demonstrators say they were sprayed but I was right there and did not witness that. They poured water in their eyes trying to get media attention which they did get. I saw several instances of this where they were acting as they had been sprayed only looking for cameras and then giving them space to film the act once the cameras did show up.


Pitiful. Just pitiful.

24 Sol Roth  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:01:35pm

Hussein is going to need a couple more Nuremburgesque megarallies if he expects any more bounces before Judgement Day.

The RNC is showing leadership, the DNC, a sinking ship.

25 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:03:00pm

The protest is almost over, except for rounding up the rest of the anarchy people.

/they just just the live feed

26 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:03:18pm
About 200 people from a group called Funk the War noisily staged its own separate march. Wearing black clothes, bandanas and gas masks, some of their members smashed windows of cars and stores. They tipped over newspaper boxes, pulled a big trash bin into the street, bent the rear view mirrors on a bus and flipped heavy stone garbage bins on the sidewalks.

One man who seemed to be the leader of the group carried a yellow flag with the motto "Don't Tread on Me." The group chanted: "Whose streets? Our streets!"

Meanwhile, a group of about 100 anarchists pushed a trash bin filled with trash and threw garbage in the streets and at cars. They also took down orange detour road signs. One of them used a screwdriver to puncture the back tire of a limousine waiting at an intersection and threw a wooden board at the vehicle, denting its side. Another hurled a glass bottle at a charter bus that had stopped at an intersection. The bottle smashed into pieces but didn't appear to damage the bus.

They're all about peace.

27 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:03:25pm

re: #11 MandyManners

Hallelujah! They're gonna' take a bath!

Not really. They make you breathe that stuff in Basic training at Fort Benning during the Nuclear-Biological-Chemical warfare part of the course.

You really want to take a good long shower after going through that.

28 bill-tb  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:03:59pm

I'm voting for the girl .... The wife says if I don't it's ...

29 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:04:04pm

sandbags from overpasses. this demonstrates peace love and responsibility for the left.
nazis

30 eclectic infidel  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:04:34pm

Will Pajamas Media sent an undercover LGF agent to infiltrate the GOP convention as well? You know, to covertly investigate the right-wing fringe groups?

31 Idle Drifter  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:04:37pm

re: #5 BrianA

They're already getting pepper sprayed after smashing property and police cruiser windows.

32 Merrick Wanta Registratia  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:05:15pm

There is something interesting about having the Convention held at a place called the Excel Energy Center, as energy is a hot issue this election. Hopefully I'll get to see some of this, even if I might be horrible at live responding. I do know that I wouldn't want to miss McCain's acceptance speech.

I am very curious how Olbermann and Matthews will react to that, and how the Obamans will look at it. It is their time to prove that they are not the biased, Obama lovers that they show themselves to be, and it is time to see how the Obama is a Rock Star crowd will react. McCain isn't a bad speaker, and will probably throw some good punches.

33 CMinMN  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:05:38pm

I did see one bag of a white'ish substance thown at a bus - nothing was broken in that incident. Very close to that was a MN state partol car with a broken side window.

34 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:05:54pm

re: #19 pat

What is this about sand bags on buses? That sounds like attempted murder.

Well to the Self Appointed Superior Being the true crime is the refusal to submit to the Superior Being's will, not the liquidation of the those who refuse to submit.

35 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:06:41pm

The History Channel has been running "Tougher in Alaska" all day. Boy, are they ever in the tank for the GOP.

36 Rancher  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:06:48pm

Can we act like grownups and party while recognizing bad things may be happening? Should the Dems be condemned for having their extravaganza while our troops were dying in Iraq and Afghanistan?

37 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:06:57pm
38 yah  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:07:17pm

this will make some eyes pop
[Link: thebruceblog.wordpress.com...]

39 coquimbojoe  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:07:36pm

re: #3 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Waaaaay classier stage than Las Vegas in the Rockies!

PP my lovely, what did Vegas do to you to be pasted with that? Those fools would last very shortly here. Metro PD would not allow that crap for a minute, it might screw up slot machines' 'takes', and that ain't ever gonna happen!

40 Merrick Wanta Registratia  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:08:11pm

re: #26 jas

About 200 people from a group called Funk the War noisily staged its own separate march. Wearing black clothes, bandanas and gas masks, some of their members smashed windows of cars and stores. They tipped over newspaper boxes, pulled a big trash bin into the street, bent the rear view mirrors on a bus and flipped heavy stone garbage bins on the sidewalks.

Perhaps they were part of George Clinton's P-Funk All-Stars who were sad that they seem to have retired from live performances. Speaking of GC, why isn't Obama's theme song Paint The White House Black?

41 Rancher  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:08:25pm

re: #12 yah

Sweet.

42 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:09:11pm

re: #38 yah

Stay classy lefties. On second thought, go have carnal relations with yourselves lefties.

43 CMinMN  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:09:21pm

The most interesting clash I saw was between some upset lesbians ripping at the signs from the Father Phelps crowd. I did get some good pictures of this little altercation.

44 pat  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:09:52pm

Democrats suffer more bad news. Th La refineries are all undamaged.

45 coquimbojoe  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:09:55pm

re: #38 yah

this will make some eyes pop
[Link: thebruceblog.wordpress.com...]

Goodness gracious, it makes me want to vote for her even more! She's no bikini model, but there are so many things in that picture to piss off the left, how could I not vote for her!

46 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:10:07pm

re: #37 buzzsawmonkey

Or, to a particularly twisted mentality, rage against the mechanistic hegemony of the automobile and fossil fuel dependence.

and murder isn't murder if it furthers the cause. as beloved Che said."We don't need proof to execute a man. We only need proof that it's necessary to execute him."

47 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:10:10pm

re: #43 CMinMN

The most interesting clash I saw was between some upset lesbians ripping at the signs from the Father Phelps crowd. I did get some good pictures of this little altercation.

ooohhh,,,,new TV reality show

When Lesbians Attack

48 Dammits Dad  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:10:15pm

Children make mistakes. The Palins are standing with their child, what more could anyone ask?
The leftists should not cast the first stone.

49 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:10:25pm

re: #38 yah

WOW...she looks like a real woman, not some anorexic waif put up as a symbol of womanhood that no normal woman could attain.

50 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:10:26pm

re: #20 Alouette

Stay classy, guys!

Too bad the ART SLUTS aren't still around:

Who, you may ask, are the Art Sluts?

Once upon a time ago (during Gulf War I) when I was an active member, the Libertarian Party of Minnesota was holding their Tax Day demonstration by the west entrance of the Minneapolis post office. We were handing out our party theft day literature to our fellow victims of socialist compassion. I was at the time wearing a dress shirt and tie to distinguish myself the Grassroots Party in their more proletarian garb. This didn't always succeed, as there was one woman who thought I was pothead and exhibited a near-psychotic fear of same.

But since the Grassroots crowd were a bunch of socialists perhaps that fear wasn't so irrational.

At about ten p.m., a dozen (my estimate, I didn't get an exact count) female humanoids (they were shaped like females) in tight black somethings came marching by wearing gas masks (not something one would want to wear in cold weather) and big--like three foot wide--yellow bows with price tags marked "$60,000,000,000" They were handing out little red cards identifying themselves as "Sluts for Peace/Art/Humanity/Sanity and the Earth". (With a name like that, did they really expect to be taken seriously?)

One side of their card read:

Midnight approaches. Let's talk about death and taxes. How much did you pay? For what? We see red.


They weren't very talkative and one really can't see very much in a gas mask.

The other side of the card read as follows:

Stay where you are now silent, or
Let us assist you in asking
Universal Questions about life.
This is it, our only life on earth;
Speak to your heart.


Now if they really wanted an emotional conversation (Oh wow man! Reason! What a concept!) the least they could have done was to leave a phone number where they could be reached. As it is, this was simply another instance of mindless posturing, (possibly a "New Age" voodoo ceremony or a audition for a NEA or other government arts grant) interfering with rational political discourse. I had to explain to someone that I was not one of the Art Sluts before he would take one of our Libertarian theft day fliers. At the time I thought that at future demonstrations I should wear my BDU Woodland pattern cammo jacket.

51 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:11:03pm

re: #44 pat

Democrats suffer more bad news. Th La refineries are all undamaged.

...and they thought God was on their side by sending the storm. Looks like they'll be eating crow here shortly. Oil down, refineries undamaged, much less home damage - Cavuto talking about this right now!

52 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:11:50pm

re: #44 pat

Democrats suffer more bad news. Th La refineries are all undamaged.

And, oil prices apparently dropped, too.

53 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:11:58pm

re: #45 coquimbojoe

Goodness gracious, it makes me want to vote for her even more! She's no bikini model, but there are so many things in that picture to piss off the left, how could I not vote for her!


Lousy trigger discipline. Gonna' lose the NRA vote, plus that looks like a pellet gun! No way voting for her!
///

54 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:11:58pm

Well, let's recap, the anarchy people caused comparatively little property damage, ate some righteous pepper spray, and at least 20 got arrested. Although they haven't quite given up yet, the police aren't done yet either.

/one thing they didn't do, which was their stated objective, is get anywhere near the Excel Center or the Delegates

55 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:12:11pm

re: #52 jas

Down to $111 a barrel.

56 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:13:12pm

re: #35 Noam Sayin'

The History Channel has been running "Tougher in Alaska" all day. Boy, are they ever in the tank for the GOP.

The post election riots are going to make for some interesting documentary programming.

57 KingKenrod  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:13:16pm

The last two polls of likely voters have Obama +3 (one poll pre Dem convention, the other post). I think that's where the race is. I worry most about losing Ohio. I think Virginia and Florida go McCain.

I think the GOP can get a big bounce from their convention - they need to develop themes about Obama that stick. I recommend they focus on these:

- Focus on Obama's arrogance, past associations, voting record, and lack of accomplishment. Paint him as an ordinary politician.
- Focus on Biden's arrogance, past associations, voting record, and lack of accomplishment. No need to paint him as an ordinary politician since everyone knows he is one.
- Use the Biden pick as proof Obama is an ordinary politician. Contrast McCain's pick of Palin.
- Reform agenda. Admit past mistakes.

58 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:13:46pm

re: #52 jas

And, oil prices apparently dropped, too.

To $111.00.

59 Rancher  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:14:19pm

Off to bed, night shift. Goodnight Lizards.

60 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:14:52pm
They're not occupying that intersection, they
will

move. Give 'em a dispersal order then move 'em.

/and the fun continues, today alone was worth the price of this radio scanner

61 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:15:02pm
62 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:15:45pm

Where's the fireworks?....strobe lights?...Hollywood celeb's?..the special effects?...the KITCH?....

aw heck, I'm goin' surfing.............

63 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:16:59pm

re: #42 Jetpilot1101

Stay classy lefties. On second thought, go have carnal relations with yourselves lefties.

There is a long term metaphysical destination that I would suggest they go to, but I'm a G-ddamned atheist who had no reason to believe in the existence of Hell.

64 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:18:09pm

Is it just me or did CSPAN show gavel to gavel coverage of the Bonkey convention last week?

/right now it's some HuffPo panel

65 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:18:52pm

Obama on Palin

"I have said before and I will repeat again: People's families are off limits," Obama said. "And people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. So I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18 and how a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn’t be a topic of our politics."

66 CynicalConservative  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:19:29pm

huffington's pontificating on C-Span during the convention break...

67 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:20:04pm

re: #64 Killian Bundy

Is it just me or did CSPAN show gavel to gavel coverage of the Bonkey convention last week?

/right now it's some HuffPo panel

This is just a convention. Last week was an annointment/ coronation/ historical/ world event

68 Piglet-U93  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:20:19pm

re: #64 Killian Bundy

Is it just me or did CSPAN show gavel to gavel coverage of the Bonkey convention last week?

/right now it's some HuffPo panel

Representing the EU

69 vagabond trader  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:20:31pm

re: #38 yah

Why don't you go look up the word fornicate and do it unto yourself.

70 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:21:07pm

re: #63 The Other Les

There is a long term metaphysical destination that I would suggest they go to, but I'm a G-ddamned atheist who had no reason to believe in the existence of Hell.

If, as you say, you are "G-ddamned", then by your own admission you plan on visiting the place you don't believe exists.

71 vagabond trader  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:21:35pm

Sniff sniff, troll alert.

72 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:21:36pm
We want to own everything west of Wabasha.

/the police are now driving the remaining anarchy people towards Wisconsin

73 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:22:10pm

re: #57 KingKenrod

The last two polls of likely voters have Obama +3 (one poll pre Dem convention, the other post). I think that's where the race is. I worry most about losing Ohio. I think Virginia and Florida go McCain.

I think Palin and her union hubby, plus reformer background, makes Ohio much more viable. I also think Michigan and Pennsylvania are now very much in play, especially after the "mayor of a small town" crack from the Obama camp.

74 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:22:30pm

re: #70 Jetpilot1101

If, as you say, you are "G-ddamned", then by your own admission you plan on visiting the place you don't believe exists.

In the future I should remember to put in the sarcasm slash.

75 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:22:31pm

Tucker Carlson is making a complete ass of himself on C-Span now.

76 Colonel Panik  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:22:34pm

re: #36 Rancher

Can we act like grownups and party while recognizing bad things may be happening? Should the Dems be condemned for having their extravaganza while our troops were dying in Iraq and Afghanistan?


Say it, brother! +1

77 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:22:37pm

Koskidz report rioting.....
I Was Tear Gassed By The St. Paul Police - Eyewitness Account

When they first appeared, they had dumpster on wheels in tow. They were dressed all in black and had bandanas over their faces. They kept chanting "the streets are ours" and yelled "cover!" every time they thought the police might move on them. There appeared to be about 100 to 125 of them. They dropped trash on the street behind them. Once they had emptied the dumpster, they overturned it in the street to block the police cars that were following them.

I saw them throw empty glass bottles at the police. At one point they tossed a detour sign and several sandbags off the 94 bridge at Kellogg Avenue. Luckily, the objects landed in the embankment and not in the roadway.

I saw them break windows on at least three police vehicles: a Bloominton Police SUV downtown, and State Patrol car on John Ireland Avenue in front of the Minnesota History Center and a St. Paul Police car on Rice Street. I also saw them slash the tires of a limousine on Rice Street.

They intermittently attempted to block the police from following them. On two occasions they dragged road signs into the street in an attempt to block streets. The second time they got hold of a dumpster they turned it over in the middle of Rice Street in front of the Capitol Mall to prevent to police from directly following them. This actually worked for about two minutes.

The police eventually followed them across the Rice Street bridge into downtown. There they protesters seemed to get a little more violent. Two of the three acts of violence I witnessed against a police vehicle happened here. All of the police vehicles I saw attacked were unoccupied. This coincided with the arrival of the SWAT team. The protesters pulled newspaper vending machines and road signs into the street. The police finally trapped them between two blocks. I'm not sure of the exact streets, but it was by the Gallery Exchange building.

At that point the SWAT team moved to take them down. I was directly across a narrow street from where the protesters were cornered. There were several loud pops. I saw smoke. I believe these were concussion grenades but I'm not sure. I definitely saw the protesters fired upon with rubber bullets. Then the SWAT team gassed them. Everyone in the immediate area them ran for cover, including myself. I got the gas pretty bad. A nice woman from Legal Observers washed my eyes out and gave me a drink.

78 Rancher  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:22:43pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Outstanding, good job Obama.

/Give credit...and this may piss off frothing liberal rapid dogs.......

79 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:22:43pm
80 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:22:44pm

HorsesAss on Palin (N.W. liberal blog)

Of the 38 men to have been elected President since 1789, eight have failed to complete their final term—more than one out of five. And at 72 years old, in remission from cancer for a second time (he had deadly melanomas removed in 1993 and 2000), the possibility of a President John McCain’s death or incapacitation in office is far from remote. Hopeful Americans stand in line to plunk down hard earned cash on a 1 in 120,000,000 chance to hit the Powerball lottery, yet if history is any guide, a Vice President Sarah Palin would stand a roughly 1 in 4.75 chance of succeeding John McCain before the end of his second term.

Those are damn good odds for Palin. And damn bad odds for the US and the world if she is unprepared to lead our nation through our current turbulent times.

Okay, Goldy, based on your logic why are you voting Obama & Biden combined with ZERO executive experience?

81 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:22:46pm

re: #74 The Other Les

In the future I should remember to put in the sarcasm slash.

Touche.

82 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:23:44pm

Is it on Cspan? TV is on hurricane coverage, preparing for Hannah.

83 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:23:54pm

re: #75 Jetpilot1101

Tucker Carlson is making a complete ass of himself on C-Span now.

I wanted to reach through the screen and deliver a bitch-slap.

84 Piglet-U93  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:24:03pm

RE: C-SPAN - The RNC gives time to all sides while the DNC was all one-sided.

85 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:25:31pm

Yup, it is on cspan over the web.

86 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:26:40pm

Neil should not have had Brown on his show talking about the levee system in New Orleans considering what a terrible job he did with Katrina.

87 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:27:08pm
88 wiffersnapper  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:27:10pm

At least fried food is allowed here. Freedom of choice, after all.

89 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:28:06pm

Yahoo pic


Sunita Krishna, from Yuma, Ariz., recites the Pledge of Allegiance at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., Monday, Sept. 1, 2008.

God bless America!

90 Son of the Black Dog  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:28:10pm

re: #47 sattv4u2

ooohhh,,,,new TV reality show

When Lesbians Attack

Well, the other night there were four "ladies" wearing lumberjack shirts at the next table in the pizza parlor. I can only make assumptions about their gender identity (NTTAWWT). They were quite large, loud, and obnoxious. But I damn sure wasn't going to tell them to quiet down. No sir.

91 Alouette  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:28:55pm

re: #43 CMinMN

The most interesting clash I saw was between some upset lesbians ripping at the signs from the Father Phelps crowd. I did get some good pictures of this little altercation.

Oooh, yummy. Got link?

92 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:29:14pm

Yahoo pics...
Attacking police car

Breaking windows
Progressive!

93 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:29:30pm

re: #77 Killgore Trout

Yeah, some of them were pepper sprayed, and good, when they rushed the police (mostly they just hit and run all day). The altercation lasted all of five seconds. Aside from causing minor property damage, it was hardly a fair fight today.

/the police are now in the process of systematically driving the remaining anarchy people east and rounding them up, they just got six more

94 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:29:47pm

re: #92 Killgore Trout

So peaceful.

95 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:29:56pm

re: #43 CMinMN

The most interesting clash I saw was between some upset lesbians ripping at the signs from the Father Phelps crowd. I did get some good pictures of this little altercation.

I saw rally staff members pushing a 12 year old boy for having a "support the troops" sign.

96 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:30:03pm

re: #92 Killgore Trout

Yahoo pics...
Attacking police car

Breaking windows
Progressive!

Yeah! Peace! Violence never solved anything!

97 pittrader1988  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:30:09pm

I am headed up there tomorrow. Should be fun.

98 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:30:30pm

re: #73 jas

I'd like to think PA is in play, but with the idiots in Pittsburgh, and the bigger idiots in my town (Philly), I am not too optimistic.

Of course, I still think Obama will win the election. I hope to God I am wrong.

99 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:30:33pm

Peggy Noonan making an ass of herself now calling the Palin pick a "Hail Mary Pass".

100 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:30:44pm

re: #90 Son of the Black Dog

Well, the other night there were four "ladies" wearing lumberjack shirts at the next table in the pizza parlor. I can only make assumptions about their gender identity (NTTAWWT). They were quite large, loud, and obnoxious. But I damn sure wasn't going to tell them to quiet down. No sir.

Not a lesbian but still interesting.

[Link: www.somethingpositive.net...]

101 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:31:19pm

re: #99 Jetpilot1101

Peggy Noonan making an ass of herself now calling the Palin pick a "Hail Mary Pass".


I had to mute my computer on her.

102 Son of the Black Dog  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:31:29pm

re: #53 jcm

Lousy trigger discipline. Gonna' lose the NRA vote, plus that looks like a pellet gun! No way voting for her!
///

Yeah, I noticed that in the photos from her trip to Iraq.

103 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:31:51pm

re: #98 Wyatt Earp

I'd like to think PA is in play, but with the idiots in Pittsburgh, and the bigger idiots in my town (Philly), I am not too optimistic.

Of course, I still think Obama will win the election. I hope to God I am wrong.

I don't think Obama will win. His balloon is leaking hot air and his train is running out of gas.

104 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:33:05pm

re: #103 Jetpilot1101


I hope to Hell you're right. As for the Noonan quote, Huffington used the exact same words last week. I guess everyone is using the phrase now.

105 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:33:08pm

Peggy just said the left (IRT Sarah Palin) needs to "kill her and we got to kill her quick".

Can this be construed as a threat?

106 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:33:24pm

re: #92 Killgore Trout

Yahoo pics...
Attacking police car

Breaking windows
Progressive!

Black is the new Brown as far as shirt colors go.

107 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:33:30pm

re: #99 Jetpilot1101

Peggy Noonan making an ass of herself now calling the Palin pick a "Hail Mary Pass".

I think there's a bit of jealousy at play.

108 Son of the Black Dog  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:33:34pm

re: #61 ploome hineni

what past mistakes?

what is this desperate need to be guilty of something?

Earmarks.

109 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:34:16pm

Isn't questioning Palin's experience by the left the pot calling the kettle black?

110 outsidephilly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:34:35pm

re: #98 Wyatt Earp

yeah, what is going on in the Upper Main Line brains - they have Obama signs everywhere! And, don't even get me started with philly's Obama mentality . . . UGH!

111 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:34:47pm

re: #109 Jetpilot1101

re: #109 Jetpilot1101

Isn't questioning Palin's experience by the left the pot calling the kettle black?


Racist! :)

112 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:35:35pm

re: #105 Jetpilot1101

Peggy just said the left (IRT Sarah Palin) needs to "kill her and we got to kill her quick".

Can this be construed as a threat?

I thouht Noonan was a Republican! She was a speechwriter for Pres. Reagan.

113 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:35:38pm

re: #110 outsidephilly

yeah, what is going on in the Upper Main Line brains - they have Obama signs everywhere! And, don't even get me started with philly's Obama mentality . . . UGH!


It's really bad. I thought the rich suburbanites were suposed to vote Republican. Personally, I think white guilt is getting the better of them.

114 KingKenrod  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:35:52pm

re: #61 ploome hineni

what past mistakes?

what is this desperate need to be guilty of something?

Mostly reneging on the promise of smaller government. Allowing earmarks to explode.

115 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:36:48pm

Tucker Carlson is now defending Olberman saying that Olberman does everything he can to appear unbiased. Now he's saying that Olberman strives for objectivity.

116 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:37:18pm

re: #98 Wyatt Earp

I'd like to think PA is in play, but with the idiots in Pittsburgh, and the bigger idiots in my town (Philly), I am not too optimistic.

Of course, I still think Obama will win the election. I hope to God I am wrong.

That is the problem with PA...Pittsburgh and Philly are liberal hotbeds, while the rest of the state has more in common with the midwest. But, Philly has voted Republican in the past.

I'm in NJ, so we can forget it, although, here in Ocean County, we're a Republican stronghold.

117 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:37:37pm

re: #115 Jetpilot1101

Tucker Carlson is now defending Olberman saying that Olberman does everything he can to appear unbiased. Now he's saying that Olberman strives for objectivity.


Is he NUTS?

118 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:38:10pm

While at work this morning, I was taking in satellite footage of a McCain/ Palin rally in St Louis. There were the requesite McCain signs, the new Palin ones but what was very VERY interetsting to me, in the cameras view I saw dozens of Hillary signs, the holders of which were cheering loudly for Mccain Palin

119 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:38:22pm

Huffington bloviates on C-Span.

120 outsidephilly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:38:25pm

re: #113 Wyatt Earp

I wonder if it is 'white guilt' . . . , I tend to think its a 'trend' thing. Cause ya know its all about the latest 'trend' . . . .

121 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:39:03pm

re: #116 jas


I'm just disconsolate that those idiots Gore and Kerry won my state.

122 outsidephilly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:39:20pm

re: #116 jas

Many in Delaware are Republicans, also!

123 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:39:47pm

re: #107 MandyManners

I think there's a bit of jealousy at play.

Some of the "elites" of the conservative movement are pissing me off. Krauthammer, Nordlinger, Brookshier at NRO....are all mouthing the same crap. Just disreagrd the energy and, just as important, the money that's now rolling in. If it was a "hail Mary", Sarah Palin caught the ball.

124 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:39:51pm

Huffington defends Olberman by saying he is on the side of the truth. I'm not shocked.

125 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:40:19pm
126 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:40:21pm

re: #124 Jetpilot1101

Huffington defends Olberman by saying he is on the side of the truth. I'm not shocked.

TROOF ,,, DRINK !

127 Jimash  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:40:28pm

re: #115 Jetpilot1101

Tucker Carlson is now defending Olberman saying that Olberman does everything he can to appear unbiased. Now he's saying that Olberman strives for objectivity.

No. He was describing what would be normal and ripping Olby without mentioning names.

128 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:40:33pm

re: #106 The Other Les

Black is the new Brown as far as shirt colors go.

And by the number on left rear quarter that is one the older cars they issue to Police Reserve.

129 MrPaulRevere  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:40:46pm

re: #124 Jetpilot1101

But of course

130 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:40:49pm

re: #123 jas

Some of the "elites" of the conservative movement are pissing me off. Krauthammer, Nordlinger, Brookshier at NRO....are all mouthing the same crap. Just disreagrd the energy and, just as important, the money that's now rolling in. If it was a "hail Mary", Sarah Palin caught the ball.

They need to shut the fuck up.

131 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:40:54pm

re: #124 Jetpilot1101

Huffington defends Olberman by saying he is on the side of the truth. I'm not shocked.


Can't we deport her already?

132 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:41:07pm

Why are these idiots on?
Isn't this the RNC convention?

133 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:41:52pm

re: #127 Jimash

No. He was describing what would be normal and ripping Olby without mentioning names.

I seriously misinterpreted then. I heard Tucker defending him.

134 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:42:02pm

re: #27 The Other Les

Not really. They make you breathe that stuff in Basic training at Fort Benning during the Nuclear-Biological-Chemical warfare part of the course.

You really want to take a good long shower after going through that.

The leftards hydrophobic tendancies will over ride any desire to bathe. They fear water like a rabid skunk. Besides, most of em smell so bad the tear gas won't be noticed.

135 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:42:20pm

re: #117 Typicalwhitey

Is he NUTS?

No, just slightly left of Marx.

136 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:42:34pm
137 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:42:44pm

re: #121 Wyatt Earp

I'm just disconsolate that those idiots Gore and Kerry won my state.

I'm more annoyed at your state for removing a good man like Rick Santorum, and putting an empty suit like Casey, Jr. in office. Of course, being from NJ, I shouldn't cast stones at any state with the clowns we've sent to Washington, and placed in Drumthwacket.

138 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:43:41pm

re: #137 jas


Although we almost elected Pat Twoomey to replace that moron Specter. Gotta count for something . . .

139 eclectic infidel  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:43:43pm

re: #109 Jetpilot1101

Isn't questioning Palin's experience by the left the pot calling the kettle black?

No, it's fair. Obama has come under attack for being inexperienced (and he is), but so is Palin in that regard.

140 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:44:00pm

Meanwhile, down in Caracas, [T]hugo Chavez has to explain to everyone how and why the power went out. He'll probably blame the greedy capitalists for the problem. The truth, however, is much simpler. Chavez has sought to nationalize industries across the board and doesn't know what he's doing. He's turning the country into a basket case.

It's the 2d time this year there have been national blackouts. Expect him to attempt to grab more political power in the process - claiming it's needed to prevent future blackouts.

141 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:44:31pm

re: #139 eclectic infidel

No, it's fair. Obama has come under attack for being inexperienced (and he is), but so is Palin in that regard.

True but Palin isn't the nominee for President, Obama is.

142 MrPaulRevere  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:44:50pm

re: #123 jas

Brookshier REALLY pissed a lot of people off with his idiotic posting at the Corner. Ace has a thread going about it, but he deleted it for excessive vitriol.

143 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:44:53pm

Why is CSPAN carrying a show that is bashing the Republicans?

144 outsidephilly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:44:57pm

re: #137 jas

Seems the Souteastern PA's Republicans got a BIG 'wake up' call when Rick Santorum was voted out.

145 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:45:20pm

re: #125 ploome hineni

gimme a break

he had no one to work with

the asshole Mayor...in office 'cause he is black

and the stupidest governor in the USA

they blamed everyone except the Jews and Israel for that debacle

Are you sure about that? IIRC, the Jews got blamed right along with the Haliburton Hurricane generator. No sarc intended.

146 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:45:26pm

Is the green on the headings of our posts a different green color now?

147 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:45:28pm
148 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:45:30pm

The aclu people didn't know what I was talking about when I mentioned ID to them. They thought I meant identification.

149 calcajun  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:45:41pm

Hey--any word from the Louisiana Lizards. Word from Entergy is that 750K houses are w/o power. Also heard it is out in Baton Rouge and NOLA.

150 Jimash  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:45:48pm

re: #133 Jetpilot1101

He really weaseld it up but what he said was like " Normally you'd have couple of opinion fellows and between them an anchor, and though you might think you know what he thinks he's trying to maintain a certain objectivity, that is a valuable thing. I'd like to think that someone somewhere is doing that "
And declined comment on Olby by name.
Then madame blavatsky did her Troooth thing.

151 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:46:06pm

They just captured the anarchy people's flag! Along with someone else pulling a wagon.

/now they're setting dumpster fires, probably not any more without their wagon

152 winston06  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:46:09pm

Too freaking bad that they didn't delay the entire thing for a week or two.

153 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:46:13pm

re: #135 spidly

No, just slightly left of Marx.

Fat, drunk, and stupid is no was to go through life, unless you are Karl Marx.

154 outsidephilly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:46:26pm

re: #146 Typicalwhitey

the green's not as green as it used to be . . .

155 vagabond trader  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:47:10pm

Best thing is the gigunda waving American flag.

156 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:47:18pm

re: #154 outsidephilly

Thanks
Was afraid something was wrong with my monitor.

157 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:47:34pm

re: #140 lawhawk

wanna bet the lights did NOt go out here?

[Link: cache.virtualtourist.com...]

Venezeula Presidents Palace

158 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:47:35pm

re: #140 lawhawk

Meanwhile, down in Caracas, [T]hugo Chavez has to explain to everyone how and why the power went out. He'll probably blame the greedy capitalists for the problem. The truth, however, is much simpler. Chavez has sought to nationalize industries across the board and doesn't know what he's doing. He's turning the country into a basket case.

It's the 2d time this year there have been national blackouts. Expect him to attempt to grab more political power in the process - claiming it's needed to prevent future blackouts.

when oil was 80 bucks a barrel, the state was putting it on the books as having sold for 20. $60 of "the peoples dollars" were going ?

bet it was not being used for maintenance and capital investment needed to keep the lights on.

159 Rancher  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:47:39pm
Vice President Sarah Palin would stand a roughly 1 in 4.75 chance of succeeding John McCain before the end of his second term.

Ohh Rah!

160 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:47:48pm

re: #146 Typicalwhitey

Is the green on the headings of our posts a different green color now?

Mines a light sage.

161 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:47:57pm

re: #143 Typicalwhitey

Why is CSPAN carrying a show that is bashing the Republicans?

because they are ,,,, well ,,,, CSPAN !

162 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:48:03pm

re: #140 lawhawk

Meanwhile, down in Caracas, [T]hugo Chavez has to explain to everyone how and why the power went out. He'll probably blame the greedy capitalists for the problem. The truth, however, is much simpler. Chavez has sought to nationalize industries across the board and doesn't know what he's doing. He's turning the country into a basket case.

It's the 2d time this year there have been national blackouts. Expect him to attempt to grab more political power in the process - claiming it's needed to prevent future blackouts.

Yep, it's gonna' look like Zimbabwe in a few years.

163 6pat6  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:48:10pm

re: #117 Typicalwhitey

Tucker Carlson is now defending Olberman saying that Olberman does everything he can to appear unbiased. Now he's saying that Olberman strives for objectivity.

Tucker Carlson is a fuckin' idiot. Pretty much sums it up.

164 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:48:21pm

re: #141 Jetpilot1101

How exactly is Palin inexperienced? Two years as governor. Years as a mayor of a city in Alaska that is comparable in size to the community organizing Obama days.

That's real executive experience. She's got a wee bit of foreign policy experience too - given that she was chair of a multistate commission on oil and gas that had foreign affiliates. She had to regularly deal with Canadian officials, and her state borders Russia as well.

She has a record in Alaska that you can actually look at - compared with Obama, whose a tabula rasa. Biden is little better, given that he's got tenure, but not the knowledgeable experience you'd hope fore. Besides, if Biden were truly a good choice to cover for Obama's flaws (namely inexperience and lack of achievements), why isn't he at the top of the ticket? Well, there's a reason for that - he's the gaffe maker.

165 debutaunt  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:48:44pm

re: #111 Wyatt Earp

re: #109 Jetpilot1101


Racist! :)

Let's use the PC term of 'kettling' please.

166 yah  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:48:47pm

It's fun watching the left having verbal tantrums over Sarah - she's got them so upset they can't even think straight and are making less sense by the hour. I'v smiled so mush in the last 2 days my face is getting sore.

167 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:48:47pm

re: #151 Killian Bundy

They just captured the anarchy people's flag! Along with someone else pulling a wagon.

/now they're setting dumpster fires, probably not any more without their wagon


where will the ones that don't get arrested spend the night now ?

168 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:48:54pm

re: #144 outsidephilly

Seems the Souteastern PA's Republicans got a BIG 'wake up' call when Rick Santorum was voted out.

I hope so. re: #144 outsidephilly

Seems the Souteastern PA's Republicans got a BIG 'wake up' call when Rick Santorum was voted out.

I hope so. Americans lost a good and honorable man when he left the Senate. He has as good a grasp on what we face as a nation as any man person in office I've seen.

169 MrPaulRevere  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:49:11pm

This C-span panel is an elitist circle jerk.....

170 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:49:29pm

re: #161 sattv4u2

because they are ,,,, well ,,,, CSPAN !

But it is supposed to be the Republican National Convention.

What am I missing?
Was the first day cancelled or something?

171 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:49:31pm

If we question obama it's racist, so if they question Palin we should call it sexist.

172 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:49:35pm

re: #151 Killian Bundy

They just captured the anarchy people's flag! Along with someone else pulling a wagon.

/now they're setting dumpster fires, probably not any more without their wagon

It's not like they lost the Regimental Colors or an Imperial Eagle.

But somebody is going to cry about it like a spoiled brat.

173 calcajun  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:49:43pm

re: #112 MandyManners

She was. Why Meg is taking this position is beyond me. Using the term "Hail Mary" is not far fetched. Palin's pick is by no means a safe, conservative pick. It's a more calculated gamble than BHO's "safe" pick of Biden. The thing to remember is that "Hail Mary" passes are things of beauty when they work--and this one seems to be floating down nicely into the hands of the intended receiver.

174 outsidephilly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:49:50pm

re: #168 jas

I hope so. Americans lost a good and honorable man when he left the Senate. He has as good a grasp on what we face as a nation as any man person in office I've seen.

Yes, he was a good and honorable man!

175 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:49:58pm

re: #156 Typicalwhitey

Thanks
Was afraid something was wrong with my monitor.


Old age, babe. Messing with your eyes. *ducks*

176 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:50:00pm

re: #164 lawhawk

In my opinion, Palin is orders of magnitude more qualified than Obama. I was just asking the question to promote discussion.

177 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:50:13pm

re: #115 Jetpilot1101

Tucker Carlson is now defending Olberman saying that Olberman does everything he can to appear unbiased. Now he's saying that Olberman strives for objectivity.

you can hear his objectivity when he hisses "Missssssster Bush"

178 calcajun  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:50:14pm

re: #135 spidly

No, just slightly left of Marx.

Which one? Groucho or Zeppo?

179 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:50:16pm

re: #161 sattv4u2

because they are ,,,, well ,,,, CSPAN !

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180 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:50:26pm
Vice President Sarah Palin would stand a roughly 1 in 4.75 chance of succeeding John McCain before the end of his second term.

I'm not seeing the problem.

181 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:50:28pm

re: #162 jcm

Or Iran.

182 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:50:29pm

re: #170 Typicalwhitey

But it is supposed to be the Republican National Convention.

What am I missing?
Was the first day cancelled or something?

you're missing the fact that they are CSPAN!.

183 vagabond trader  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:50:37pm

re: #140 lawhawk

Follow the money. It's a tough job for Hugo to catch up with the amassed Castro fortune.

184 6pat6  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:50:41pm

re: #140 lawhawk

Chavez proves what nationalizing industry does to destroy a nation. Jackasses in our own Congress would do well to pay attention. They've got EOADD (Elected Official Attention Deficit Disease)

185 KingKenrod  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:50:50pm

re: #118 sattv4u2

While at work this morning, I was taking in satellite footage of a McCain/ Palin rally in St Louis. There were the requesite McCain signs, the new Palin ones but what was very VERY interetsting to me, in the cameras view I saw dozens of Hillary signs, the holders of which were cheering loudly for McCain Palin

Over the past few years I've been upset to see McCain working so closely with Hillary Clinton. I even remember a joint interview where they seemed particularly cozy with each other (I no longer remember the issue). I was furious at the time, but now, in some weird unforseen way (who would have guessed Hillary wouldn't get the nomination?), all that respectful schmoozing is going to work out well for McCain. Many Hillary supports aren't leftists, but see her as a champion of working women and working mothers. Palin, as a strong woman with both career and family, is going to play well with those voters.

186 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:51:09pm

re: #170 Typicalwhitey

But it is supposed to be the Republican National Convention.

What am I missing?
Was the first day cancelled or something?

I think they're doing something boring.

187 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:51:15pm

re: #179 JeremyR

did you see my response to your #248 in the last thread?

188 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:51:27pm

re: #171 Sharmuta

If we question obama it's racist, so if they question Palin we should call it sexist.

YESSSSSSSSSSSS!

189 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:51:30pm

re: #175 Wyatt Earp

Old age, babe. Messing with your eyes. *ducks*

Can still out smoke some half my age ;)

190 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:52:01pm

re: #167 sattv4u2

where will the ones that don't get arrested spend the night now ?

That's really good. There's a reason the police are driving them east.

/all their barracks/headquarters are now miles behind police lines

191 Rancher  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:52:03pm

re: #162 jcm

He and Iran face decreasing oil revenue due to putting all profits in social programs, (bribes), instead of infrastructure and research.

192 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:52:12pm

re: #184 6pat6

Chavez proves what nationalizing industry does to destroy a nation. Jackasses in our own Congress would do well to pay attention. They've got EOADD (Elected Official Attention Deficit Disease)

If you can't build it and earn it, steal it legislatively. this is the lesson they learn

193 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:52:33pm

re: #186 MandyManners

I think they're doing something boring.

So what.
I watched boring crap during the DNC

I never saw their cameras leave the forum.

194 calcajun  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:52:37pm

re: #163 6pat6

Tucker Carlson is a fuckin' idiot. Pretty much sums it up.

Not usually. He's been the token conservative on CNN and MSNBC. I am at a loss as to why Carlson and others like Noonan are anti-Palin and are sippin' someone else's Koolaid.

195 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:52:47pm

re: #170 Typicalwhitey

But it is supposed to be the Republican National Convention.

What am I missing?
Was the first day cancelled or something?

Required business only, opening the convention, certification of delegates credentials.

196 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:52:48pm

These windbags really love Ron Paul.

197 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:52:54pm

re: #172 The Other Les

It's not like they lost the Regimental Colors or an Imperial Eagle.

But somebody is going to cry about it like a spoiled brat.

/yeah, it was just red, they probably have a few more

198 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:53:05pm

re: #185 KingKenrod

Many Hillary supports aren't leftists, but see her as a champion of working women and working mothers. Palin, as a strong woman with both career and family, is going to play well with those voters.


Millions and millions of votes are going to McCain-Palin from this group, IMHO.

199 Geepers  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:53:46pm

Jetpilot1101 (#99),

Peggy Noonan making an ass of herself now calling the Palin pick a "Hail Mary Pass".

Then I guess that would make the Biden pick "intentional grounding."

200 6pat6  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:54:02pm

re: #192 spidly

Unfortunately, that is exactly the lesson some in Congress draw from Chavez. One more reason they need to leave come November.

201 Jimash  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:54:14pm

re: #196 Jetpilot1101

I had to turn Huffy off when she started telling me about Ron Paul.

202 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:54:18pm

re: #199 Geepers

Heck, "controlled flight into terrain".

203 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:54:20pm

Time for dinner. I'll be back for the convention later on tonight.

Carlson did just slam Olberman. That was nice to see.

204 yah  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:54:29pm

re: #151 Killian Bundy

And what does setting a dumpster on fire accomplish? These people make no sense.

205 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:54:42pm

re: #193 Typicalwhitey

So what.
I watched boring crap during the DNC

I never saw their cameras leave the forum.

Maybe the RNC cancelled today's festivities.

206 MrPaulRevere  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:55:00pm

That guy bitching about Cynthia McKinneys lack of press coverage was priceless.

207 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:55:03pm

re: #202 Ojoe

Heck, "controlled flight into terrain".

Funniest comment today!

208 6pat6  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:55:16pm

re: #194 calcajun

I've seen some of his "conservative" observations in the past. Pure window dressing. The little boy is as much a hard-line Lib as Olberdoofus.

209 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:55:16pm

re: #204 yah

radiant heat for the cold homeless

210 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:55:27pm

re: #205 MandyManners

Maybe the RNC cancelled today's festivities.


Well then how about having Republicans on then?

This is really pissing me off.

211 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:55:48pm

re: #207 Jetpilot1101

They can't seem to see where they are going.

212 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:56:45pm

re: #185 KingKenrod

Over the past few years I've been upset to see McCain working so closely with Hillary Clinton. I even remember a joint interview where they seemed particularly cozy with each other (I no longer remember the issue). I was furious at the time, but now, in some weird unforeseen way (who would have guessed Hillary wouldn't get the nomination?), all that respectful schmoozing is going to work out well for McCain. Many Hillary supports aren't leftists, but see her as a champion of working women and working mothers. Palin, as a strong woman with both career and family, is going to play well with those voters.

I checked out the PUMA site and was surprised to see how many were calling the anointed one a Socialist. Votes will be siphoned off.

213 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:56:50pm

Hey Wyatt

Anymore crazy stories today?

214 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:57:00pm

re: #210 Typicalwhitey

Well then how about having Republicans on then?

This is really pissing me off.

Beats me.

215 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:57:20pm

re: #189 Typicalwhitey


Heh, heh, "smoke."

216 calcajun  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:57:31pm

re: #206 MrPaulRevere

That guy bitching about Cynthia McKinneys lack of press coverage was priceless.

He's right. They need a breath of the absurd.

217 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:57:43pm

re: #215 Wyatt Earp


You know what I mean ;)

218 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:57:43pm

Arianna ,,, listening to you is torture !

219 calcajun  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:58:36pm

re: #199 Geepers

Jetpilot1101 (#99),

Then I guess that would make the Biden pick "intentional grounding."

More like ineligible receiver down field.

220 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:58:39pm

re: #206 MrPaulRevere

That guy bitching about Cynthia McKinneys lack of press coverage was priceless.

Roseann Barr had her all over her blog.

221 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:58:42pm

re: #204 yah

And what does setting a dumpster on fire accomplish? These people make no sense.

No, they just cause minor property damage and, if they can't run fast enough, pepper sprayed and arrested. They never accomplish their stated objectives.

/it's not even fair, the police have helicopters, radios, and professional riot gear.

222 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:58:49pm

re: #218 sattv4u2

Arianna ,,, listening to you is torture !

Is she Zsa Zsa's love child?

223 cblesz  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:58:50pm

re: #218 sattv4u2

Arianna ,,, listening to you is torture !

Don't then. She is a freaking imbecile.

224 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:59:08pm

re: #217 Typicalwhitey

You know what I mean ;)

I do, I just like messing with your head. Tee hee hee!

225 6pat6  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:59:12pm

re: #212 jas

I checked out the PUMA site and was surprised to see how many were calling the anointed one a Socialist. Votes will be siphoned off.

A lot of Shirillary's supporters will vote McCain/Palin - a lot more than the DNC is willing to admit.

McCain/Palin - 83%
B-HO/bin Biden - 15%
Other - 2%

Read it here first, September first, in the Year of our Lord 2008, A. D.

226 KingKenrod  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:59:23pm

New CBS poll shows Obama up +8, 48-40. But this poll is a < 1000 voters sample of registered voters, and has been Obama +6 since April.

227 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:59:37pm

Sounds like they've almost got 100 of them cornered.

/almost

228 Piglet-U93  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 1:59:54pm

CSPAN Huffington rants on all the leftists talking points, Carlson is besides himself and gives up.

229 Geepers  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:00:38pm

Killian Bundy (#151),

They just captured the anarchy people's flag! Along with someone else pulling a wagon.

Oh no! What are the anarchists going to do without their flag and assault vehicle?

230 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:00:47pm

re: #227 Killian Bundy

Sounds like they've almost got 100 of them cornered.

/almost

Time for the brown note generator!

231 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:00:58pm

re: #226 KingKenrod

RCP has him at +4.5

I expect Palin to give a barnburner of a speech and to wow them at the convention.

Then I want to see what the "polls' say.

232 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:01:01pm

re: #221 Killian Bundy

No, they just cause minor property damage and, if they can't run fast enough, pepper sprayed and arrested. They never accomplish their stated objectives.

/it's not even fair, the police have helicopters, radios, and professional riot gear.

I don't understand why they do what they do. What's the freakin' point?

233 6pat6  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:01:07pm

re: #229 Geepers

Was it a little red wagon they stole from a four-year-old?

234 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:01:09pm

re: #225 6pat6

A lot of Shirillary's supporters will vote McCain/Palin - a lot more than the DNC is willing to admit.

McCain/Palin - 83%
B-HO/bin Biden - 15%
Other - 2%

Read it here first, September first, in the Year of our Lord 2008, A. D.

5768 you insensitive schmuck!

235 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:01:18pm

re: #187 sattv4u2

did you see my response to your #248 in the last thread?

I figured you were tongue in cheek, but wasn't entirely sure.
I disagree with you in 163. People who came here such as you mention wanted to assimilate and become Americans. My grandfather, born in Germany, refused to speak German even though he was fluent in it, but would translate for others in a pinch.
The people coming up from Mexico have a diffrent agenda. they view south western states as part of Mexico, and their right. They do not want our culture, only our money. They import crime along with drugs, not because it is part of their culture, but because it undermines ours.
I have been running in and out, so have not read the entirety of any of the threads. Its a busy day in Kansas.

236 calcajun  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:01:20pm

re: #218 sattv4u2

Arianna ,,, listening to you is torture !

Ah. Ms. Huffington. I recall when she ran with Arnie for governor a few years back. Her accent was worse than the Governator's. But, when she talked about how we should "focus" on education...well, let's just say of all the possible mispronunciations, she fell upon the worst--and most humorous--one.

237 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:01:27pm

re: #224 Wyatt Earp


You not working today?

238 6pat6  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:01:54pm

re: #234 spidly

Hey, you can use your year, I'll use mine!

239 RoughRider  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:02:01pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Obama on Palin"I have said before and I will repeat again: People's families are off limits," Obama said. "And people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics.

"Hi George. It's The One. How soon can you get some of your 527's to gin up some 'independent unaffiliated' outrage against Palin? I'll remember you well come Fairness Doctrine time."

240 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:02:12pm

re: #229 Geepers

Killian Bundy (#151),

Oh no! What are the anarchists going to do without their flag and assault vehicle dumpster/headquarters/sleeping quarters?

fixed

241 rp1138  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:02:19pm

re: #123 jas

Some of the "elites" of the conservative movement are pissing me off. Krauthammer, Nordlinger, Brookshier at NRO....are all mouthing the same crap. Just disreagrd the energy and, just as important, the money that's now rolling in. If it was a "hail Mary", Sarah Palin caught the ball.

I found it rather interesting that the conservative commentators that I never really cared for are the ones that are worried about this. Screw 'em.

It was just so wonderful seeing Kraut's scardy-cat comments about the Palin pick being quoted in a lefty anti-Palin article as proof that even the conservaties think she's a bad choice.

Way to help the cause, dickweed.

242 Minnesota Ronin  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:02:38pm
And what does setting a dumpster on fire accomplish? These people make no sense.

It shows how ANGRY they are.... But later tonight they are going to go back home to there perfect suburban homes, put on their Polo pajamas, and go to bed dreaming of what they can do tomorrow to piss off Mom, Dad and the rest of the world because they resent everything that has been handed to them in life.

They don't really care about any cause... They are basically just the radical wing of the Emo kids.

243 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:03:02pm

re: #237 Typicalwhitey

You not working today?

At work now. So far, it's pretty slow. (Crosses fingers.)

244 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:03:28pm

re: #236 calcajun

Ah. Ms. Huffington. I recall when she ran with Arnie for governor a few years back. Her accent was worse than the Governator's. But, when she talked about how we should "focus" on education...well, let's just say of all the possible mispronunciations, she fell upon the worst--and most humorous--one.

Which one?

245 calcajun  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:03:30pm

re: #230 jcm

Time for the brown note generator!

That would be a shitty move. But, it would given new meaning to the term "evacuating" the protesters. They might get arrested for voiding where prohibited.

246 itellu3times  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:03:41pm

re: #55 Jetpilot1101

Down to $111 a barrel.

Good. I hope McCain and Palin go to Wall Street tomorrow and help package hundred dollar bills to ship to Americans, as the stock market shoots up.

247 yah  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:04:03pm

re: #221 Killian Bundy

They never accomplish their stated objectives.

That's because their "stated objective" is not really their objective.

248 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:04:18pm

re: #232 MandyManners

I don't understand why they do what they do. What's the freakin' point?

Huh? When I see burning dumpsters it always convinces me!
///

249 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:04:21pm

re: #242 Minnesota Ronin

It shows how ANGRY they are.... But later tonight they are going to go back home to there perfect suburban homes, put on their Polo pajamas, and go to bed dreaming of what they can do tomorrow to piss off Mom, Dad and the rest of the world because they resent everything that has been handed to them in life.

They don't really care about any cause... They are basically just the radical wing of the Emo kids.

We had to deal with this tools in Philly in 2000. Every one that we locked up was wearing a bandana over their face. When we finally asked why, most of them said that they didn't want their parents seeing them on TV. Courage, thy name is "anarchist."

250 MrPaulRevere  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:04:26pm

Die off of print media = evolution

251 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:04:49pm

CBS News 08/29 - 08/31... 781 RV 48 40 Obama +8
CNN 08/29 - 08/31 ... 927 RV 49 48 Obama +1
Gallup 08/29 - 08/31 2733 RV 49 43 Obama +6
Rasmussen 08/29 - 08/31 3000 LV 49 46 Obama +3

252 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:05:04pm

Wow...it's sick to see the disappointment on the alphabet's faces that the levees haven't breeched.

Bastards

253 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:05:23pm

re: #230 jcm

Time for the brown note generator!

ever been to one of these protests? you don't need a brown note generator to get them crapping in the streets, it is customary.

254 6pat6  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:06:05pm

re: #252 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

They're practically shooting a load in their collective drawers, waiting for that levee to break! They look sooooo disappointed, too. Fuck them.

255 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:06:06pm

re: #243 Wyatt Earp

At work now. So far, it's pretty slow. (Crosses fingers.)


Our tax dollars at work!

Sitting around polishing your handcuff and eating donuts?

(my ex was a detective lol)

256 Minnesota Ronin  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:06:14pm
it's not even fair, the police have helicopters, radios, and professional riot gear.

Except the St. Paul cops aren't set to be wearing the riot gear all the time... They will have it "available" to them.

One of the many reasons that a lot of people around here HATE the St. Paul mayor.

Kinda like when he slashed all the veteran officers pay grades to less than what rookies make after their union refused to endorse him.

Pathetic.

257 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:06:15pm

re: #248 jcm

Huh? When I see burning dumpsters it always convinces me!
///

They like pollution?

258 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:06:17pm

re: #251 Typicalwhitey

CBS News 08/29 - 08/31... 781 RV 48 40 Obama +8
CNN 08/29 - 08/31 ... 927 RV 49 48 Obama +1
Gallup 08/29 - 08/31 2733 RV 49 43 Obama +6
Rasmussen 08/29 - 08/31 3000 LV 49 46 Obama +3

Zogby +2.

259 calcajun  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:06:33pm

re: #244 MandyManners

You're kidding?

Instead of saying "fo·cus [ fṓkəss ]" she used a short "u" sound in the first syllable.

260 Geepers  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:06:44pm

6pat6 (#233),

Was it a little red wagon they stole from a four-year-old?

Most likely. The anarchists wouldn't want to pay for one and support the evil children's toy industrial complex.

261 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:06:46pm

re: #235 JeremyR

yeah, because we KNOW all the Italians that came here didn't bring crime! (and I am 50% Italian, 1/4 Sicilian) To this day, you go to the North End section of Boston and ITALIAN is the working language. True, my grandparents assimilated to America, but they kept Italian/ Irish at home. They also for the most part only dealt with Italian merchants, Italian laborers, etc etc. It was (and for a great part) still is that way in American ethnic communities

262 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:06:48pm

re: #255 Typicalwhitey

Our tax dollars at work!

Sitting around polishing your handcuff and eating donuts?

(my ex was a detective lol)

Well, they have to be nice and shiny, or you'll never let me put them on you. Heh.

263 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:06:55pm

re: #256 Minnesota Ronin

Uh- no, the St Paul cops are in riot gear today.

264 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:07:05pm

re: #247 yah

That's because their "stated objective" is not really their objective.

/I'm sorry, but minor property damage doesn't equal "anarchy", must be a ploy to impress the hippie chicks

265 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:07:08pm

re: #258 jcm

Zogby +2.

PIMF McCain +2

266 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:07:15pm

Had family here today and didn't watch any TV or get on the computer until now and find out Sarah Palin is going to be a grandmother. What a blessing. I have two grandchildren and got to spend the day with both.

What a happy, happy day when a child is born.

267 yah  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:07:27pm

re: #248 jcm

What does it convince you of?

268 Minnesota Ronin  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:07:55pm
We had to deal with this tools in Philly in 2000. Every one that we locked up was wearing a bandana over their face. When we finally asked why, most of them said that they didn't want their parents seeing them on TV. Courage, thy name is "anarchist."

Figures.

There is nothing more frightening to me than an angst-ridden suburban kid.

269 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:07:57pm

re: #254 6pat6

They're practically shooting a load in their collective drawers, waiting for that levee to break! They look sooooo disappointed, too. Fuck them.

And no storm related deaths other than the three elderly, critical care patents who died. My Uncle in Law died that way during Katrina and I know they were trying really hard to save him. He was very old, great eccentric fellow who lived large. I miss him...but I don't blame Bush for his death.

270 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:07:59pm

re: #265 jcm

PIMF McCain +2


I know I'll get hammered for this (and rightly so), but what does PIMF mean?

271 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:08:21pm

re: #267 yah

What does it convince you of?

They must be right, only when you're right do you burn dumpsters, right?

272 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:08:27pm

re: #259 calcajun

You're kidding?

Instead of saying "fo·cus [ fṓkəss ]" she used a short "u" sound in the first syllable.

It dawned on me a few seconds after I posted.

273 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:08:39pm

re: #249 Wyatt Earp

We had to deal with this tools in Philly in 2000. Every one that we locked up was wearing a bandana over their face. When we finally asked why, most of them said that they didn't want their parents seeing them on TV. Courage, thy name is "anarchist."

Kaffiyahs out numbered bandanas today.

274 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:08:44pm

re: #249 Wyatt Earp

We had to deal with this tools in Philly in 2000. Every one that we locked up was wearing a bandana over their face. When we finally asked why, most of them said that they didn't want their parents seeing them on TV. Courage, thy name is "anarchist."

Actually, its not fear of mom, but rather grandma who will be pissed, and the neighbor who will laugh them to scorn.
Moms gonna hock the title to the mini van to post their bail and hire a good liberal lawyer who will get charges reduced and the prick will do community service for a few days.

275 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:08:54pm

Gotta go make potato salad...bbl.

276 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:09:14pm

re: #262 Wyatt Earp

Now you know why you're my lgfbf
;)

277 Jimash  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:09:52pm

re: #270 Wyatt Earp

ok I'll take it.
Preview Is My Friend. PIMF

278 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:09:52pm

re: #273 Sharmuta

re: #274 JeremyR

Actually, its not fear of mom, but rather grandma who will be pissed, and the neighbor who will laugh them to scorn.
Moms gonna hock the title to the mini van to post their bail and hire a good liberal lawyer who will get charges reduced and the prick will do community service for a few days.


Oh, that's just lovely.


We really played them right in 2000. Found the ringleaders, locked them up, and kept them in holding for the maximum time allotted by law. Crisis averted.

279 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:09:59pm

re: #270 Wyatt Earp

I know I'll get hammered for this (and rightly so), but what does PIMF mean?

LOL...

Preview Is My Friend.
Clicking preview and proof reading prevents stupid mistakes like that!

280 kcladderman  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:10:01pm

re: #221 Killian Bundy

No, they just cause minor property damage and, if they can't run fast enough, pepper sprayed and arrested. They never accomplish their stated objectives.

/it's not even fair, the police have helicopters, radios, and professional riot gear.

and brains

281 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:10:11pm

re: #270 Wyatt Earp

I don't know what it means either.

282 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:10:13pm

re: #256 Minnesota Ronin

Except the St. Paul cops aren't set to be wearing the riot gear all the time... They will have it "available" to them.

One of the many reasons that a lot of people around here HATE the St. Paul mayor.

Kinda like when he slashed all the veteran officers pay grades to less than what rookies make after their union refused to endorse him.

Pathetic.

They probably weren't St. Paul cops.

/watch the the videos, the rolling riot troops were well equipped

283 6pat6  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:10:14pm

re: #270 Wyatt Earp

Preview Is My Friend

284 Minnesota Ronin  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:10:28pm
Uh- no, the St Paul cops are in riot gear today.

I have no doubt that they are... All I was saying was that the mayors office said they didn't want them in gear unless something went wrong, as opposed to being ready from the get go.

"Excuse me, can you stop throwing rocks at me so I can go put on my turtlesuit?"

285 lori lane  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:10:28pm

Has Rove written anything about Palin yet? I've seen him a few times that first day or so after the announcement and he seemed very cautious with his approval of the pick.

286 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:10:38pm

Not a good day for anarchists and other civics-challenged miscreants.

Mon, 09/01/2008 - 15:54updatecred_rating: Fourprojectiles fired on kellogg b/t wabasha and cedar; massive numbers pepper sprayed; black bloc dragging barricades into street. also concussion grenades. reports coming in to tcimc of several injuries from rubber bullets on 6th street. MEDICS needed on 6th, and on Kellogg!
Mon, 09/01/2008 - 15:51upDATEcred_rating: Fourcops putting on gas masks at mulberry/kellogg ** pepper spray used at cedar/kellogg
Mon, 09/01/2008 - 15:48arrestscred_rating: Four1 from pagan cluster arrested; punched in face; bleeding. ** medics arrested at 6th and wall number 2.
Mon, 09/01/2008 - 15:40updatecred_rating: Four100s of police at Wabasha and 10th with gas masks - funk the war ** 50 riot police in full gear entering 20 unmarked cars along cedar/7th ** 300 people being stampeded by police horses at 2nd and kellogg (?) ** massive police presence at kellogg/wabasha - bridge occupied by riot cops including national guard. ** police platoons will be erected at cedar/kellogg and wabasha/kellogg
Mon, 09/01/2008 - 15:37updatecred_rating: Three2 arrests 6th/St Peter - possibly 1 medic ** COPS GETTING READY TO GAS FUNK THE WAR BLOCKADE. UNCONFIRMED REPORTS OF RUBBER BULLETS BEING SHOT. Legal observers needed now
Mon, 09/01/2008 - 15:33updatecred_rating: Fourcoldsnap: "van-load of female-bodied people" taken away in unmarked van from 7th/wall ** cops moving in on kellogg/minnesota ** POLICE POLITELY REQUESTED INTO TIN CAN COMMS BLDG; DENIED ENTRY **
Mon, 09/01/2008 - 15:29updatecred_rating: Foursoft blockade going up at kellogg/minnesota ** METRO TRANSIT service into downtown saint paul has been suspended
Mon, 09/01/2008 - 15:25updatecred_rating: Four12 people being cuffed and loaded into vans on wall between 6th/7th ** funk the war is now moving south on minnesota st.
Mon, 09/01/2008 - 15:24jailcoldsnap: the report about the jail on lockdown came from NLG lawyers denied entrance. they were told it was in effect until 3:30pm.
Mon, 09/01/2008 - 15:17updatecred_rating: Four30-40 people @ kellogg/wabasha to be given dispersal order. massive police presence coming there ** 1 person detained in car at kellogg/mulberry - 40 riot cops surrounding plus secret service. ** funk the war moving north on wabasha

287 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:10:47pm

re: #276 Typicalwhitey

Now you know why you're my lgfbf
;)

Whoo hoo!

Oh, and thank you, jimash. Gonna go wallow in the fact that i'm the worst detective in the world now.

288 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:11:30pm

re: #287 Wyatt Earp


jcm, 6pat6 - Thanks, guys!

289 6pat6  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:11:31pm

The PIMF question reminds me - and this will sound stupid, perhaps, but WTF is GAZE? I have an idea, but...

290 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:11:40pm

re: #284 Minnesota Ronin

Based on what I saw- they didn't listen. They were fully dressed in riot gear.

291 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:11:47pm

re: #287 Wyatt Earp

Whoo hoo!

Oh, and thank you, jimash. Gonna go wallow in the fact that i'm everyone knows I am the worst detective in the world now.

Fixed that for you.

292 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:12:14pm

re: #291 Typicalwhitey


Thanks, deary. :)

293 yah  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:12:25pm

re: #271 jcm

Well what did the poor dumpster ever do tho them? -

No need to answer - just being silly.

294 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:12:30pm

Got another one.

/although it sounds like they might be getting ready to take a dinner break

295 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:12:31pm

re: #289 6pat6

The PIMF question reminds me - and this will sound stupid, perhaps, but WTF is GAZE? I have an idea, but...

GAZE - To glare with silent disapproval at a troll who has intentionally attempted to derail a topic. A sign of non-acknowledgment of a particularly offensive or inflammatory post, and a sign to other commenters not to “feed the troll” (pay attention to a disruptive commenter). Usually written all capitals.

296 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:12:32pm

Curious. Very curious. The NYT wants people to think that the GOP is in tumult because Palin's daughter is pregnant. That seems to go against everything I'm reading from all the major players, to say nothing of Palin's family or the McCain campaign's reaction and knowledge that they knew about the situation before picking Palin.

NYT bias much? // I know the answer... the answer is absolutely.

297 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:13:00pm

re: #289 6pat6

The PIMF question reminds me - and this will sound stupid, perhaps, but WTF is GAZE? I have an idea, but...

LGF Dictionary

298 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:13:15pm
299 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:13:18pm

re: #293 yah

Well what did the poor dumpster ever do tho them? -

No need to answer - just being silly.

Big Dumpster Is Ripping Us Off

300 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:13:27pm

re: #289 6pat6

Gaze is a term used to simply skip over folks who are trolls or subjects not worth the effort of replying to or on.

301 Jimash  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:13:28pm

re: #287 Wyatt Earp

Took me a while too. OI JUST got lgfbf
LOL

I saw pictures on Yahoo of St. Paul Police getting pushed off their bikes. They were in Jim DAngle wear.
I am glad they are stomping these pricks who just like to bust stuff up.
" They captured the Anarchists flag" that one cracks me up.

302 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:13:30pm

Still- my favorite story of the day is the open-minded, peace loving, tolerant lefties pushing around a 12 year old boy for having a pro-troops sign.

303 6pat6  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:13:34pm

re: #293 yah

Well what did the poor dumpster ever do tho them?

yeah, especially since that is a home and food source for a lot of them, at least the ones that don't live in Mommy's basement!

304 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:13:53pm

re: #284 Minnesota Ronin

I was down there yesterday, and they had several contingents in gear. Many policemen and women have been brought in from surrounding communities as well.

305 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:14:15pm

re: #287 Wyatt Earp

Whoo hoo!

Oh, and thank you, jimash. Gonna go wallow in the fact that i'm the worst detective in the world now.

It's good cover... remember Columbo?

306 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:14:16pm

re: #296 lawhawk

I don't get the cries of "hypocritical"

It would be hypocritical if they said they were pro life and then encouraged their daughter to get an abortion.

Instead they have offered their support and love.

307 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:14:20pm

re: #302 Sharmuta

Still- my favorite story of the day is the open-minded, peace loving, tolerant lefties pushing around a 12 year old boy for having a pro-troops sign.

Where?

308 Piglet-U93  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:14:23pm

Is there a consensus at LGF which polling group provides the most accurate results?

309 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:14:26pm
The tempo is dropping

/sounds like both sides are getting ready to call it a day

310 6pat6  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:14:35pm

re: #295 jcm

That's what I thought, just hit the "duh" button...!

311 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:15:09pm

re: #308 Piglet-U93

Is there a consensus at LGF which polling group provides the most accurate results?

I think everyone'll agree it is not Zogby unfortunately

312 calcajun  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:15:15pm

re: #272 MandyManners

s'awright.

Just heard-- the levees in Plaquemines Parish and in down around, Scarsdale, Whiteditch and Braceway are failing. They are overtopping and scouring out. They are calling for emergency evacuation of the area.

[Link: www.wwltv.com...]

The MSM wet dream is coming true.

313 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:15:33pm

re: #308 Piglet-U93

Is there a consensus at LGF which polling group provides the most accurate results?

The one on Nov. 4th.

314 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:15:37pm

re: #305 jcm

It's good cover... remember Columbo?

jcm...Wyatt isn't acting

runs and ducks....

315 Minnesota Ronin  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:17:09pm
Based on what I saw- they didn't listen. They were fully dressed in riot gear.

I was down there yesterday, and they had several contingents in gear. Many policemen and women have been brought in from surrounding communities as well.

Thats a good thing... I was just going on what I had been told over the last couple weeks

(My Father is Minneapolis PD)

316 yah  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:17:09pm

re: #286 Who Watches the Watchmen?

POLICE POLITELY REQUESTED INTO TIN CAN COMMS BLDG; DENIED ENTRY **

That sounds like an intersting building.

317 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:17:13pm

re: #314 Typicalwhitey

jcm...Wyatt isn't acting

runs and ducks....


Good move. Our lousy 9mm ammo won't penetrate paper, let alone walls.

318 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:17:17pm

re: #302 Sharmuta

Still- my favorite story of the day is the open-minded, peace loving, tolerant lefties pushing around a 12 year old boy for having a pro-troops sign.

/the also had about a seven year old carrying a 9/11 troofer sign that was as big as he was and there was the person carrying the peace sign that gave the camera the finger

319 6pat6  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:18:05pm

re: #318 Killian Bundy

Such nice people!
/////

320 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:18:46pm

re: #318 Killian Bundy

I like it when I see them with a peace sign that is actually the BMW sign.
And they are too dumb to know it.

321 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:18:58pm

re: #317 Wyatt Earp

Good move. Our lousy 9mm ammo won't penetrate paper, let alone walls.

Any plans to move to .40? A lot of LE is doing that?

322 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:19:11pm

re: #308 Piglet-U93

Is there a consensus at LGF which polling group provides the most accurate results?

RCP has a good aggregate of polls, Rasmussen is fairly good; Zogby much less so. Gallup and other organizations have results that sometimes defy description based on polling samples, sample size, and massaging of data sets to obtain results (such as oversampling D to show Obama ahead).

Still, the only poll that counts is the one national election on Nov 4 (November 5 for all those Democrats who still want to vote for the inexperienced team of Obama/Biden).

323 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:19:36pm

re: #317 Wyatt Earp

Good move. Our lousy 9mm ammo shot detectives won't penetrate paper, let alone walls.


Fixed again!

324 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:19:45pm

re: #307 The Other Les

At the rally.

325 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:19:47pm

re: #321 jcm

Any plans to move to .40? A lot of LE is doing that?


No time soon. Our department is still stuck in the 70's.

326 talon_262  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:19:52pm

re: #320 Typicalwhitey

I like it when I see them with a peace sign that is actually the BMW sign.
And they are too dumb to know it.

Did you mean Mercedes?

327 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:20:19pm

re: #316 yah

POLICE POLITELY REQUESTED INTO TIN CAN COMMS BLDG; DENIED ENTRY **


That sounds like an intersting building.

Tin Can Collective

328 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:20:47pm

re: #312 calcajun

s'awright.

Just heard-- the levees in Plaquemines Parish and in down around, Scarsdale, Whiteditch and Braceway are failing. They are overtopping and scouring out. They are calling for emergency evacuation of the area.

[Link: www.wwltv.com...]

The MSM wet dream is coming true.

Ah, nutz.

329 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:21:18pm

re: #326 talon_262

Apparently I am too dumb also LOL
Thanks.

330 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:21:31pm

re: #318 Killian Bundy

I saw that troofer kid.

Also interesting was the Somalis protesting Ethiopian involvement in their country and the Ethiopians were also there protesting their political prisoners- both groups had kids.

331 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:22:06pm

re: #318 Killian Bundy

/the also had about a seven year old carrying a 9/11 troofer sign that was as big as he was and there was the person carrying the peace sign that gave the camera the finger

Wife went with a couple of our friends to gay pride parade. 4 year old carrying sign that said "nipple fetish." that and the pickup load of topless biker lesbians in front of them keeps them from participating in the parade anymore - think it is just a little counter productive

332 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:22:37pm

re: #325 Wyatt Earp

No time soon. Our department is still stuck in the 70's.

That sucks. I hate it when LE doesn't have political support. Seattle's the same way, hanging LE out to dry all the time.

333 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:22:44pm

re: #308 Piglet-U93

Is there a consensus at LGF which polling group provides the most accurate results?

Rasmussen.

334 Thanos  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:23:30pm

Most polls are not to be trusted, you have to dig into the poll methods, sample size and type, and whether it's likely voters or not. Unfortunately since so many polls are being taken so fast and many are merely polls to create a story for a journo, it's hard to get a real feel with polls. Use real clear politics to look at them all for any given day if you want to get a better picture of reality.
[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

On the other hand, since electoral votes are what win elections, the battleground states block is real important to watch. Good signs for McCain there.

335 kuffar  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:23:34pm

CNN is beating the daughter pregnancy horse to death. Shameless.

336 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:23:46pm

They were expecting 50,000 people at the rally.

They got 3000-5000. LMAO!

337 debutaunt  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:24:01pm

re: #226 KingKenrod

New CBS poll shows Obama up +8, 48-40. But this poll is a < 1000 voters sample of registered voters, and has been Obama +6 since April.

They seem objective.

338 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:24:44pm

re: #317 Wyatt Earp

Good move. Our lousy 9mm ammo won't penetrate paper, let alone walls.

hogwash - esp after all those years of people complaining about overpenetration by 9mm.
better on light body armour than 40 or 45. if you really think you are under powered then do not advocate for those. I better hear you wanting to switch to 10mm or 357 sig

339 tradewind  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:25:09pm

Nyah nyay,,,, no bounce... none. nada.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

340 rightside  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:25:45pm

Nice to be able to watch a live feed of the convention through pajamastv!

341 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:27:30pm

Fox needs to stop covering the hurricane while on the convention floor.

342 tradewind  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:28:01pm

re: #335 kuffar

Gloria Borger is one snarky bitch..... and it is really coming out as she dishes over this story. CNN execs should show her a tape and fire her.

343 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:28:26pm

re: #261 sattv4u2

yeah, because we KNOW all the Italians that came here didn't bring crime! (and I am 50% Italian, 1/4 Sicilian) To this day, you go to the North End section of Boston and ITALIAN is the working language. True, my grandparents assimilated to America, but they kept Italian/ Irish at home. They also for the most part only dealt with Italian merchants, Italian laborers, etc etc. It was (and for a great part) still is that way in American ethnic communities

When I think of Italians I don't think of crime. My heritage is part Swiss Italian, part German, part Polish, Part Jewish, but I'm 100% American.
I was raised in a small town that was mostly German. down the road were towns with Primarilly Polish, Danish, Dutch, and Scandanavian settlers. We assimilated, but we held our heritage festivals, and still do. Some things we keep, but some we toss away and embrace America. I've attended Santee Tribal functions as well. Its all part of our heritage.

How many of those Italian folk speak only Italian? My father spoke German among his friends, much to his FiLs dissatisfaction, and I've been in places where several languages were being spoken at once, but they all spoke Americanese, or english. (knew a guy from Liverpool who got angry every time we called it english.)
I never saw some one flying a German flag, or an Italian flag, Saw what I thought was a French flag once, but it turned out to be a clean bed sheet drying on the line. They all flew American flags.

344 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:28:44pm

I mean, they're showing photographs of flood and wind damage while broadcasting applause from the convention.

345 offendi  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:29:09pm

Ding me if you will, but the Palin pregnancy and McCain's decision to suspend a full Republican convention, i.e. large scale watchable media event, pretty much means that the Republican Party will be rebuilding itself next year. Those Republicans who voted for McCain in the primaries may need to do some soul-searching as well.

Why, you may ask?

Will women view negatively a Vice Presidential candidate more focused on her political career than oversight and involvement in the lives of her children? Is the likely controversy offset by significant experience? Unless they find Joe Biden in a motel room with a sheep this will be a significant factor in the election. If McCain's people in fact knew about this, why did they even pick her? Good judgment in a Presidential candidate? Not. Married at 17? You think Hillary supporters will like that?

Additionally Obama had his Obamacropolus speech and events. McCain has overacted to New Orleans, and will not get the full benefit of people having the ability to get to know him and republican values in their own living rooms via the convention. Really poor judgment. Just don't have parties. Have a serious convention.

The guy deserved to lose in 2000. Hopefully everyone will get a chance up and coming Republicans who will hold out the hope of restoring the party to Congress and the Presidency.

346 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:29:27pm

re: #338 spidly

hogwash - esp after all those years of people complaining about overpenetration by 9mm.
better on light body armour than 40 or 45. if you really think you are under powered then do not advocate for those. I better hear you wanting to switch to 10mm or 357 sig


I was being somewhat sarcastic. There is a movement afoot to switch to 40 ammo, but I think that the neighborhood rats just can't be killed. A month ago, and officer shot a man in the head - THE HEAD - when he pulled a gun on them.

When rescue arrived, he was talking on his cell phone. Must be the water.

347 pat  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:29:42pm

re: #285 lori lane

Has Rove written anything about Palin yet? I've seen him a few times that first day or so after the announcement and he seemed very cautious with his approval of the pick.

He made a statement on Fox news. Said that it was family business and that it sounds like they did the right thing. Sounded almost like he was pleased for the family. Grandchild and all.

348 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:29:44pm

re: #234 spidly

Well it is

Sextidi, 16 Fructidor 216

on the French Revolutionary Calendar.

349 livefreeor die  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:29:48pm

re: #98 Wyatt Earp

I'd like to think PA is in play, but with the idiots in Pittsburgh, and the bigger idiots in my town (Philly), I am not too optimistic.

Of course, I still think Obama will win the election. I hope to God I am wrong.

The hubby and I are two of the increasingly rare philly suburb Republicans. Actually I think there are a lot of us but no one wants to have to discuss politics with the liberals around here so we keep quiet. God forbid the public school teachers find out-my son was roasted in his middle school class last year for even suggesting moderate ideas over radically left ones. They have been driving us especially crazy this week.

350 LeePro  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:30:40pm

re: #320 Typicalwhitey

I like it when I see them with a peace sign that is actually the BMW Mercedes Benz sign.
And they are too dumb to know it.

351 conservativeChick  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:30:45pm

Any news on RonStock? I kinda wish that Gustva would of hit in St.Paul and rain on the Paultards parade. One can only wish. :(

352 yah  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:30:48pm

re: #334 Thanos

Most polls are not to be trusted


Correct.

I do not answer any polls. I work. I have a family. I am too busy. I like my privacy. I think I am pretty typical of working people. So that leaves students, retired, and freeloaders that control the polls.

Just an opinion.

353 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:30:49pm

9-10 (19?) more

/doesn't seem like they can find anymore significant sized groups of anarchy people to chase

354 pat  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:31:16pm

I am a member of the Gallup panel. It is fun. i take it quite seriously.
/especially when they ask about Killgore trout

355 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:31:24pm

re: #345 offendi

Vice Presidential candidate more focused on her political career than oversight and involvement in the lives of her children?

Until parents lock up their kids until they turn 18, stuff is gonna' happen.

356 Thanos  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:31:54pm

Note to PJ TV people on microphones: It's a visual as well as an aural medium, boom mics need to be bent into position aproximately 1" from the corner of the mouth for best sound and visual effect. Otherwise it can look like a growth on your nose...

357 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:32:17pm

re: #349 livefreeor die

The hubby and I are two of the increasingly rare philly suburb Republicans. Actually I think there are a lot of us but no one wants to have to discuss politics with the liberals around here so we keep quiet. God forbid the public school teachers find out-my son was roasted in his middle school class last year for even suggesting moderate ideas over radically left ones. They have been driving us especially crazy this week.


That kind of nonsense is another reason why our kids are in Catholic schools. Less liberal wingnuts there.

358 LeePro  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:32:40pm

re: #324 Sharmuta

At the rally.

I think he meant where is the STORY!

Got a link?

359 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:33:09pm

Ooh, Taser deployment! Bet he gets arrested.

/that'll teach you to be an anarchy person!

360 livefreeor die  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:33:16pm

re: #345 offendi

Hillary's supporters were cool with a married man getting a BJ from a 20 year old employee while he was on the phone conducting business. Who knows what they'll think.

361 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:34:34pm

re: #346 Wyatt Earp

I was being somewhat sarcastic. There is a movement afoot to switch to 40 ammo, but I think that the neighborhood rats just can't be killed. A month ago, and officer shot a man in the head - THE HEAD - when he pulled a gun on them.

When rescue arrived, he was talking on his cell phone. Must be the water.

Sounds like you just need to go straight to S&W .500.

362 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:34:50pm

re: #360 livefreeor die

& they would not be OK with it if Bill was their own partner. But they let him off because they worship power.

*SPIT!*

363 offendi  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:35:05pm

#345 Clarification-

meant to say at the end that I hoped we will see newer Republican speakers who hold out the hope of re-building the party in the future.

President Obama ( Jimmah Carter II) will certainly be beatable in 2012. If we still exist as a country that is.

364 Geepers  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:35:09pm

offendi (#345),

You think Hillary supporters will like that?

LOL. Oh yeah, Hillary supports are all about fidelity in marriage.

And a suggestion, you should wait until after the convention is over before calling it a flop.

365 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:35:20pm

re: #325 Wyatt Earp

No time soon. Our department is still stuck in the 70's.

Then you would have .45s.

366 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:36:03pm

re: #365 JeremyR

Then you would have .45s.

70's? .38 police special.
30's and 40's are .45.

367 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:36:17pm
Throwing feces bags, we have deployed gas

/looks like anarchy people are making there last stand

368 offendi  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:36:25pm

re: #355 MandyManners

Until parents lock up their kids until they turn 18, stuff is gonna' happen.

Mandy, religious people and politicians are held to higher standards, right or wrong.

369 livefreeor die  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:36:37pm

re: #357 Wyatt Earp

That kind of nonsense is another reason why our kids are in Catholic schools. Less liberal wingnuts there.

I'm pregnant with our third right now and we are increasingly thinking of sending him to Catholic school, given our public school experiences. My son had teachers last year instructing the kids each day in a number of things such as:
-Only liberals care about human rights. (direct quote)
-Bush was the worst president ever and Clinton was one of the best.
-The 2nd amendment is wrong.

That was the tip of the iceberg.

370 outsidephilly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:37:02pm

re: #349 livefreeor die

The hubby and I are two of the increasingly rare philly suburb Republicans. Actually I think there are a lot of us but no one wants to have to discuss politics with the liberals around here so we keep quiet. God forbid the public school teachers find out-my son was roasted in his middle school class last year for even suggesting moderate ideas over radically left ones. They have been driving us especially crazy this week.


Yeah, I hear ya! I'll be in Media for a few days this week surrounded by Obama-minded attorneys!

371 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:37:04pm

re: #343 JeremyR

How many of those Italian folk speak only Italian?

MOST,, but I have a feeling that I am somewhat older than you. NONE of my grandparents were born here. Some their children (my aunts and uncles ) weren't either. My generation was the 1st in my family that were all born in America

372 LoFlyer  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:37:35pm

re: #361 jcm

Sounds like you just need to go straight to S&W .500.

Is there a new .500 handgun round? It must be heavy as a rock, and move at like 900 FPS to be manageable...

373 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:37:57pm

re: #346 Wyatt Earp

I was being somewhat sarcastic. There is a movement afoot to switch to 40 ammo, but I think that the neighborhood rats just can't be killed. A month ago, and officer shot a man in the head - THE HEAD - when he pulled a gun on them.

When rescue arrived, he was talking on his cell phone. Must be the water.

this guy survived
can't find the one of the huge Rambo knife in the scull I saw on TLC.

374 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:38:03pm

The tempo has definitely increased.

/where are the horses?

375 offendi  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:38:11pm

re: #360 livefreeor die

Hillary's supporters were cool with a married man getting a BJ from a 20 year old employee while he was on the phone conducting business. Who knows what they'll think.

They won't go for a 17 year old kid getting married, that is for sure. Know more than enough of 'em.

Don't kill the messenger guys.

376 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:38:23pm

re: #358 LeePro

It's my story. I saw it with my own eyes. A pro-troops mom & son were bullied by rally staff members and they pushed the boy around in front of me.

377 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:38:25pm

re: #366 jcm

70's? .38 police special.
30's and 40's are .45.

10mm

378 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:38:48pm

re: #346 Wyatt Earp

I was being somewhat sarcastic. There is a movement afoot to switch to 40 ammo, but I think that the neighborhood rats just can't be killed. A month ago, and officer shot a man in the head - THE HEAD - when he pulled a gun on them.

When rescue arrived, he was talking on his cell phone. Must be the water.

In february, a friend of one of my sons friends took a point blank from a .38 in the head. Never lost consciousness, and the guy then worked to thwart the police investigation. Brain damage? No brain TO damage.

379 livefreeor die  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:38:54pm

re: #370 outsidephilly

Yeah, I hear ya! I'll be in Media for a few days this week surrounded by Obama-minded attorneys!

Wow-you have my condolences.

A great moment four years ago was walking into my son's elementary school for a parent event right after Bush's reelection and seeing the faces on all the parents. We just have to focus on moments like that when it gets annoying!

380 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:39:09pm

re: #372 LoFlyer

Is there a new .500 handgun round? It must be heavy as a rock, and move at like 900 FPS to be manageable...

nothing wrong with the 460 for that matter

381 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:39:19pm
382 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:39:33pm

re: #372 LoFlyer

Is there a new .500 handgun round? It must be heavy as a rock, and move at like 900 FPS to be manageable...

S&W .500 Magnum, with over 2500 ft·lbf (3.5 kJ) of energy, created with a 440 gr (29 g) bullet travelling at 1650 ft/s (503 m/s), it is claimed to be the most powerful handgun cartridge commercially manufactured,

383 livefreeor die  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:40:04pm

re: #375 offendi

They won't go for a 17 year old kid getting married, that is for sure. Know more than enough of 'em.

Don't kill the messenger guys.

No death intent. Just a point. They're caught between a rock and a hard place right now. Given their rage at how Shrillary was treated, I think it's still not clear what some of them will do.

384 offendi  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:40:37pm

re: #364 Geepers

offendi (#345),


LOL. Oh yeah, Hillary supports are all about fidelity in marriage.

And a suggestion, you should wait until after the convention is over before calling it a flop.

Okay, I agree. Let's see. Just the less time they spend getting into people's living rooms delivering the message, well...

385 sojerofgod  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:41:32pm

re: #347 pat

Now this is something that makes me crazy. The news hoes always talk like having a child is some kind of family disaster or something. I know the phrase 'culture of death' is quite hackneyed, but dammit, a lot of us out here like children, and don't consider them to be a f*cking burden. The people who do want to have kids are painted as stupid, un-urbane or somehow not cool.

stupid!
stupid!
stupid!

386 LoFlyer  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:41:57pm

re: #380 spidly

nothing wrong with the 460 for that matter

Do you have a link! I am always intererested in high-power pistol rounds. Can't understand my interest, I only weigh 135 and can't handle high power. Kills my wrists and shoulders..

387 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:42:11pm

re: #366 jcm

70's? .38 police special.
30's and 40's are .45.

The departments I worked with had .45's in the 70's. They switched to 9mm in the 80's.
I like the .45, its a big round, does a lot of damage, but rarely exits. I know of several one shot stops with the .45, but cannot recall any with the 9mm.

388 outsidephilly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:42:45pm

re: #379 livefreeor die

Wow-you have my condolences.

A great moment four years ago was walking into my son's elementary school for a parent event right after Bush's reelection and seeing the faces on all the parents. We just have to focus on moments like that when it gets annoying!

. . . , I SO remember moments like that! Notice how our 'ilk' responded during those days - there wasn't any snide behavior.

389 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:42:46pm

re: #369 livefreeor die

I'm pregnant with our third right now and we are increasingly thinking of sending him to Catholic school, given our public school experiences. My son had teachers last year instructing the kids each day in a number of things such as:
-Only liberals care about human rights. (direct quote)
-Bush was the worst president ever and Clinton was one of the best.
-The 2nd amendment is wrong.

That was the tip of the iceberg.


Congrats on your pregnancy!

Nothing offends me more than the liberal hyperbole of "Bush is the worst President ever." As a student of history, I can assure he is nowhere close. Andrew Johnson, Warren Harding, and James Buchanan were much worse than Bush could ever be. And how can you rank him below William Henry Harrison, who was in office for 30 days?

390 livefreeor die  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:42:59pm

I'm off to make dinner and get the young 'uns ready for school tomorrow. Then I'm going to be an evil, negligent mother and go to work while they're at school.

No public office for me!

391 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:43:48pm

re: #371 sattv4u2

How many of those Italian folk speak only Italian?

MOST,, but I have a feeling that I am somewhat older than you. NONE of my grandparents were born here. Some their children (my aunts and uncles ) weren't either. My generation was the 1st in my family that were all born in America

My father and mother were both born here, dad in 1910, mom in 1920.

392 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:43:48pm

re: #301 Jimash

" They captured the Anarchists flag" that one cracks me up.

Were the anarchists rallying to the flag?

393 livefreeor die  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:44:13pm

re: #389 Wyatt Earp

Congrats on your pregnancy!

Nothing offends me more than the liberal hyperbole of "Bush is the worst President ever." As a student of history, I can assure he is nowhere close. Andrew Johnson, Warren Harding, and James Buchanan were much worse than Bush could ever be. And how can you rank him below William Henry Harrison, who was in office for 30 days?

My son learned a lot about history when I filled him in on exactly those facts. Actually, he learned a lot as we taught him real history to challenge all the crap they were spoonfeeding his class.

394 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:44:16pm

re: #368 offendi

Mandy, religious people and politicians are held to higher standards, right or wrong.

Bristol Palin is neither.

395 tradewind  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:44:31pm

Zombie APB!
Moonbats are running amok in St Paul, and acting more like French Asian 'yutes about to start a carbecue than the mellow idiots in Denver.....

396 outsidephilly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:44:35pm

re: #389 Wyatt Earp

So, when's the baby's due?

397 kcladderman  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:44:44pm

re: #369 livefreeor die

I'm pregnant with our third right now and we are increasingly thinking of sending him to Catholic school, given our public school experiences. My son had teachers last year instructing the kids each day in a number of things such as:
-Only liberals care about human rights. (direct quote)
-Bush was the worst president ever and Clinton was one of the best.
-The 2nd amendment is wrong.

That was the tip of the iceberg.

When my daughter was in 7th grade one of her teachers was listing"facts "about both parties
He wrote Dems cared about the environment
Republicans were for Big Business.

398 pat  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:45:05pm

CNN trying to snear Palin as an "abstinence only" nutcase. That is the equivalent of "whore only" sex education. Wolf Blitzer says it is OK , of course to smear this teenager because he is talking about her sex education. (like he has the remotest idea what is discussed in this family or the schools this girl went too)

399 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:45:22pm

Every time I take a peek at the Rebub Convention, all I see is people taking votes, adopting rules, following procedures. You know, acting like adults!
Where are the funny hats? Where are the OverTheTop Musical productions? Where are the sycophants?

400 livefreeor die  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:45:23pm

re: #396 outsidephilly

So, when's the baby's due?

About the same time as Bristol Palin's. I kid you not.

Now, I've got to go tend to my poor, neglected waifs.

401 outsidephilly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:45:47pm

re: #397 kcladderman

When my daughter was in 7th grade one of her teachers was listing"facts "about both parties
He wrote Dems cared about the environment
Republicans were for Big Business.

Couldn't ya just scream!

402 tradewind  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:46:20pm

re: #394 MandyManners

I tell ya, we need to remind the public of Barack's ' punished with a baby ' comment.
So, Senator Obama, is Bristol being Punished With A Baby?

403 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:46:46pm

re: #391 JeremyR

My father and mother were both born here, dad in 1910, mom in 1920.

then you were brought up in a much different culture than I. Our 1st generation of 100% "born here" was in the late 40's early 50's

404 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:47:02pm

re: #376 Sharmuta

It's my story. I saw it with my own eyes. A pro-troops mom & son were bullied by rally staff members and they pushed the boy around in front of me.

Did you get any photos? (Not calling you a liar, think Zombie and what he/she/it saw.) If so, can you get them to Charles so he can post them?

405 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:47:04pm

re: #386 LoFlyer

Do you have a link! I am always intererested in high-power pistol rounds. Can't understand my interest, I only weigh 135 and can't handle high power. Kills my wrists and shoulders..

wiki on .460 xvr

S&W site

fires .460, 454 casull, and 45 LC if I'm not mistaken.

4 to 5 lb gun though like the 500

406 kcladderman  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:47:19pm

re: #401 outsidephilly

Couldn't ya just scream!

Yes my daughter begged me not to say anything to him at parent teacher conferences

407 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:47:31pm

Laura's in da' house!

408 Geepers  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:47:41pm

LoFlyer (#372),

Is there a new .500 handgun round? It must be heavy as a rock, and move at like 900 FPS to be manageable...

For comparison.

409 LoFlyer  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:47:51pm

re: #387 JeremyR

The departments I worked with had .45's in the 70's. They switched to 9mm in the 80's.
I like the .45, its a big round, does a lot of damage, but rarely exits. I know of several one shot stops with the .45, but cannot recall any with the 9mm.

The .45 will definately stop your target. But lighter weight personell have difficulty handling it. Females can handle the 9 MM with standard training. Like the .223, better to accept the lighter weight and put more rounds down range to knock down the target...

410 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:48:06pm

The bus people are now discussing routes that go through downtown St Paul.

No, they still don't want us there.

/well, gee, there's been feces and gas exchanged, stay away, no one's waiting for buses down there

411 outsidephilly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:48:11pm

gotta go for now, the sun's beginning to set in these here parts . . . , ja-eeeez, this summer just sped by . . .

412 LoFlyer  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:48:31pm

re: #405 spidly

wiki on .460 xvr

S&W site

fires .460, 454 casull, and 45 LC if I'm not mistaken.

4 to 5 lb gun though like the 500

Thanx!

413 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:48:44pm

re: #327 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Tin Can Collective

The numbers are written like Europeans write them.

414 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:48:57pm

re: #398 pat

CNN trying to snear Palin as an "abstinence only" nutcase. That is the equivalent of "whore only" sex education. Wolf Blitzer says it is OK , of course to smear this teenager because he is talking about her sex education. (like he has the remotest idea what is discussed in this family or the schools this girl went too)

Oh, dear Lord, has Miss Palin given an interview in which she discussed 1) if she or her fiance used birth control or 2) whether their method failed? I didn't think so, so Wolf, STOP SPECULATING!

My cousin became pregnant while taking the Pill because she was also talking antibiotics.

415 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:49:36pm

re: #395 tradewind

Zombie APB!
Moonbats are running amok in St Paul, and acting more like French Asian 'yutes about to start a carbecue than the mellow idiots in Denver.....

Actually, they might almost have them cornered again behind West Publishing.

/almost

416 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:50:19pm

re: #389 Wyatt Earp

Congrats on your pregnancy!

Nothing offends me more than the liberal hyperbole of "Bush is the worst President ever." As a student of history, I can assure he is nowhere close. Andrew Johnson, Warren Harding, and James Buchanan were much worse than Bush could ever be. And how can you rank him below William Henry Harrison, who was in office for 30 days?

One word, CARTER.

417 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:50:42pm

re: #414 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, dear Lord, has Miss Palin given an interview in which she discussed 1) if she or her fiance used birth control or 2) whether their method failed? I didn't think so, so Wolf, STOP SPECULATING!

My cousin became pregnant while taking the Pill because she was also talking antibiotics and her boyfreind.


/standin tall for the much deserved WHACK

418 looking closely  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:50:49pm

re: #378 JeremyR

In february, a friend of one of my sons friends took a point blank from a .38 in the head. Never lost consciousness, and the guy then worked to thwart the police investigation. Brain damage? No brain TO damage.


I've seen with my own eyes a case where a guy was shot point blank in the head with a 9mm, and not only lived, he was 100% fine.

Long story short, he got burned in a 2am drug deal, and was shot in the head. After being hit, he fell to the ground and played possum, and the shooter left him for dead. After he got to the hospital, he was X-rayed and the bullet was located in the soft tissue at the BACK OF HIS NECK.

What happened is that the bullet hit the front of his head at a glancing angle, then tracked around under the skin to the back of his head. Guy was 100% fine.

Apparently, this sort of thing is pretty common. The human skull is made of 3/8" dense bone, and it takes the right kind of hit to go through it. A hit at an angle may just glance off.

419 tradewind  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:50:51pm

re: #415 Killian Bundy

Is there a Gitmo North set up? They look meaner than the Denver crowd.

420 Jimash  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:50:57pm

re: #392 David IV of Georgia

Were the anarchists rallying to the flag?

I don't know I didn't see any of it but a few stills online. I'm reading it here just like you. It's just the thought of organized anarchists and their flag that busts me up.

421 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:51:36pm

re: #404 JeremyR

I did more than that- I pointed her out to a media outlet and they interviewed her. And when the rally staff called the cops, I told the cops what I saw. The officers did nothing to her.

422 LoFlyer  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:51:43pm

re: #405 spidly

wiki on .460 xvr

S&W site

fires .460, 454 casull, and 45 LC if I'm not mistaken.

4 to 5 lb gun though like the 500

423 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:52:23pm

re: #403 sattv4u2

then you were brought up in a much different culture than I. Our 1st generation of 100% "born here" was in the late 40's early 50's

That would most likely land you in the middle of our family age wise.

424 tradewind  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:52:45pm

re: #418 looking closely

I saw a fascinating study that shows doctors using Ambien, of all things, to rehabilitate minimally conscious brain damaged persons, bring them out of vegetative states in some cases....gunshot cases were among them.
Who'd have thunk it.

425 doppelganglander  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:52:46pm

Laura Bush is speaking at the convention now. What a lovely, classy lady. They've got Gov. Rick Perry of Texas on via satellite, with the Texas Air National Guard and, I believe, a C-130. Maybe Gustav is a blessing in disguise for the GOP -- we'll get to see Republican governors like Perry, Jindal and Barbour actually doing their jobs. (Gov. of Alabama on tape right now.)

426 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:53:08pm

re: #419 tradewind

Is there a Gitmo North set up? They look meaner than the Denver crowd.

/they just run faster, except for the feces launch, they're still getting their asses systematically kicked

427 pingjockey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:54:04pm

re: #426 Killian Bundy
Yaaay. Wish we could see the festivities.

428 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:54:14pm

re: #416 JeremyR

One word, CARTER.

Anyone who lived in that time period really has no other answer. Unless you're a Yankee fan, 1977-80 could be one of the most depressing times in this country.

429 tradewind  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:54:15pm

re: #425 doppelganglander

The delegates are putting care packages together and taking up collections...... this is a huge lemonade opportunity out of this lemon, for sure. And the MSM have to grit their teeth and cover it.....a bonus.

430 pingjockey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:54:35pm

Protesters getting thumped that is.

431 yochanan  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:54:35pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Obama on Palin

NOW ONLY IF HE WOULD TELL HIS ATTACK DOGS.

432 pingjockey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:54:57pm

BBL

433 pat  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:55:12pm

re: #414 goddessoftheclassroom

There seems to be some sort of meme among these dimwits that conservatives disapprove of contraception. They have confused the teaching of the desirability of abstinence prior to marriage as some sort of negation of biologic and human health education. Bill Bennett was trying to explain, but Blitzer does not get it. Protestants have nothing against contraceptives. And as a whole, they do not believe you will go to hell if you have premarital sex.

434 looking closely  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:56:05pm

re: #387 JeremyR
.45 ball ammo has a reputation for exiting ("overpenetration"), and I've seen it happen. Soft ammo is less likely to do this.

I've also seen more than one one-hit stops with 9mm, including a case where a guy was shot under the right armpit. Bullet went through his right lung, through his heart, through his left lung, and exited, leaving 8 separate wound holes. Needless to say the victim didn't last long.

Another one was a head shot. Unlike the last story I related, this 9mm entered the side of the victims head turning its contents to pulp.

The moral of the story is that its mostly about shot placement.

435 tradewind  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:56:18pm

re: #431 yochanan
He's freaking that his ' punished with a baby' slip will come back and bite him.

436 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:56:22pm
We could use additional resources.

In route.

/well for [expletive deleted] sake, don't let them escape this time!

437 angst  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:57:15pm

re: #398 pat

CNN trying to snear Palin as an "abstinence only" nutcase. That is the equivalent of "whore only" sex education. Wolf Blitzer says it is OK , of course to smear this teenager because he is talking about her sex education. (like he has the remotest idea what is discussed in this family or the schools this girl went too)

CNN talking heads need to read their own rags:
(reposting from the other thread on Dobson)


The fact is, regardless of what you will hear over the next few days, Bristol's pregnancy is not a legitimate political issue. Sarah Palin is a longterm member of a group called Feminists for Life, which is not opposed to birth control. So you probably can't tag her for consigning young people to unwanted pregnancies.

From TIME.

438 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:57:30pm

re: #382 jcm

S&W .500 Magnum, with over 2500 ft·lbf (3.5 kJ) of energy, created with a 440 gr (29 g) bullet travelling at 1650 ft/s (503 m/s), it is claimed to be the most powerful handgun cartridge commercially manufactured,

H&R makes their near-legendary single-shot long gun in .500 S&W. I have one and it is a very nifty piece of 19th century technology. The recoil isn't bad at all in the heavy rifle (nothing like the handguns at any rate) and it sells for less than $300. I have a thing for single shots, though.

439 LeePro  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:57:43pm

re: #424 tradewind

I saw a fascinating study that shows doctors using Ambien, of all things, to rehabilitate minimally conscious brain damaged persons, bring them out of vegetative states in some cases....gunshot cases were among them.
Who'd have thunk it.

Speaking of Ambien... [way OT] ...has anyone noticed the side effects they mention in the commercials for sleeping pills?

"...may cause drowsiness"

Yup. Side effects. For a sleeping pill!

440 tradewind  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:58:15pm

Wow! Cindy's cleaned up really nice!
I thought she had been looking not so great lately, but she's dazzling tonight.

441 angst  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:58:20pm

re: #431 yochanan

NOW ONLY IF HE WOULD TELL HIS ATTACK DOGS.

If he said he would take no money from people/PAC's who sling the mud on Bristol, I'd feel better.

442 FightingBack  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:58:25pm

Look at Cindy!

443 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:58:40pm

I hope Sarah gets asked about it.

Q. Nosy none of my business question.

A. I don't consider a baby as punishment. I consider it my first grandchild and cannot understand how anyone would view it as anything else.

End.Of.Story

444 doppelganglander  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:58:54pm

re: #429 tradewind

It also points out that some of the fastest-growing states in population -- Texas, Alabama, Georgia, Florida for sure -- also have Republican governors. (I'm not sure about the growth rates in LA and MS.) People vote with their feet, leaving the cold, decrepit and poorly governed northeast for warm places where government gets the hell out of the way of business.

445 LeePro  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:59:04pm

bbl

gotta go throw some food around in the kitchen...

446 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:59:46pm

This convention is going to be a winner.

447 tradewind  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:59:50pm

re: #439 LeePro

That's like the warnngs on rat poison ' do not use as food'. Or irons, warning ' do not operate while wearing clothing to be ironed'.

448 pat  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:59:53pm

re: #437 angst

Good one. See my 433. My BIL is an Assemblies Minister with a Doctorate. Same church as Ms Palins Wassilia church.

449 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 2:59:54pm

COMMS SPACE RAIDED. 9 ARRESTED; CHARGED WITH CONSPIRACY TO RIOT - SAME CHARGE AS THE RNC-WC 7. OFFICERS WOULD NOT SHOW LEGAL OBSERVER WARRANT.

450 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:00:33pm

www.causegreater.com

451 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:00:34pm

The police are have trouble coordinating this attack although the anarchy people aren't moving, yet.

/get it together boys!

452 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:00:37pm

re: #438 Shiplord Kirel

H&R makes their near-legendary single-shot long gun in .500 S&W. I have one and it is a very nifty piece of 19th century technology. The recoil isn't bad at all in the heavy rifle (nothing like the handguns at any rate) and it sells for less than $300. I have a thing for single shots, though.

you have a martini-henry? really want one. which reminds me I need to send off my C&R stuff.

453 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:00:38pm

WWW.CauseGreater.com

Awesome idea.

454 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:01:07pm

Wow. The RNC is running with helping the Gulf states.

455 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:01:34pm

re: #409 LoFlyer

The .45 will definately stop your target. But lighter weight personell have difficulty handling it. Females can handle the 9 MM with standard training. Like the .223, better to accept the lighter weight and put more rounds down range to knock down the target...

The option for females was the .38. I own three 9mms, two .45 acp, one .45 Colt, a .44 , a .32 and a .357. My prefrence is always to the .45s.
My wife can barely handle the .32.
I'd favor keeping options open for weapon selection. A .22 can be deadly, where as in the same hands, a larger gun would be inaccurate and therefore useless. Same is true of the .308 vs .223 (7.62 vs 5.56 for you Military dot com types).

456 TnTx13  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:01:37pm

re: #402 tradewind

I tell ya, we need to remind the public of Barack's ' punished with a baby ' comment.
So, Senator Obama, is Bristol being Punished With A Baby?

Ding!

457 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:01:40pm
CART and NRT teams

/whatever that means

458 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:01:40pm

re: #454 MandyManners

Wow. The RNC is running with helping the Gulf states.

www.causegreater.com

Very classy!

459 doppelganglander  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:01:44pm

re: #447 tradewind

That's like the warnngs on rat poison ' do not use as food'. Or irons, warning ' do not operate while wearing clothing to be ironed'.

It always reminds me of the Saturday Night Live faux commercial for Petchow brand rat poison. "Petchow" in huge letters, and teeny tiny "rat poison" at the bottom of the package.

460 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:01:57pm

Serving a cause greater than self.

Take *that*, BHO.

461 FightingBack  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:02:21pm

Laura is an absolutely great speaker. So natural and gracious.
And Cindy's outfit is smokin'!

462 looking closely  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:02:25pm

re: #447 tradewind

That's like the warnngs on rat poison ' do not use as food'. Or irons, warning ' do not operate while wearing clothing to be ironed'.

Do not insert head into microwave oven to dry hair.

Do not insert fork into eye. . .

I suspect most of these gratuitous warnings come from prior litigation, where some dumbass asserted that they had "no idea" that the object in question could be harmful when used in an utterly idiotic way, and then after having lost the suit the company in question had to append the warning for idiots on their product because of the precedent.

463 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:02:35pm

re: #458 Typicalwhitey

www.causegreater.com

Very classy!

Incredibly tasteful.

464 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:03:01pm

Gonna' fire up the grill. bbl

465 pat  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:03:03pm

You know if NO is doing so poorly after this weak storm,it should be abandoned. Atlantis

466 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:03:03pm

re: #433 pat

There seems to be some sort of meme among these dimwits that conservatives disapprove of contraception. They have confused the teaching of the desirability of abstinence prior to marriage as some sort of negation of biologic and human health education. Bill Bennett was trying to explain, but Blitzer does not get it. Protestants have nothing against contraceptives. And as a whole, they do not believe you will go to hell if you have premarital sex.

There are ideals to which many people of faith aspire and, falling short, repent. I've got to say, though, a teenager who engages in premarital sex who is compassionate and kind is a better person overall than any virgin who engages in behaviors, such as gossiping, that hurt others.

467 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:03:10pm

The police are executing their attack.

/as confusing as combat anywhere anywhere, BUT THE HORSE ELEMENTS JUST VOLUNTEERD!

468 angst  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:03:20pm

re: #444 doppelganglander

It also points out that some of the fastest-growing states in population -- Texas, Alabama, Georgia, Florida for sure -- also have Republican governors. (I'm not sure about the growth rates in LA and MS.) People vote with their feet, leaving the cold, decrepit and poorly governed northeast for warm places where government gets the hell out of the way of business.

Maybe they're also fast growing because they like babies, too. I love to tell my lefty friends we will outbreed them in the end.

BTW, ever read the article about abortion losing the Florida for Gore? Seems as though the number of voters that were aborted could have swung the election for the Dems. There were a LOT of assumptions in there, but it's plausible.

469 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:03:24pm

re: #452 spidly

you have a martini-henry? really want one. which reminds me I need to send off my C&R stuff.

I do indeed, a .303 conversion, which means that I can actually shoot it. The .450/.577 rounds are available again but at something like 6 bucks a round, I'll pass.

470 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:04:12pm

30-40 cops headed down I94, prepping for mass arrests

471 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:04:23pm

re: #421 Sharmuta

I did more than that- I pointed her out to a media outlet and they interviewed her. And when the rally staff called the cops, I told the cops what I saw. The officers did nothing to her.

But what will the media do? That is like the story of the Israeli who save a kid from a pitbull in NYC if you know that joke. You have the ability with a picture to change the outcome so often. I forget it all too often, sad to say. Some, like Zombie are past pro at it. Thanks for acting where so many would just stand by and do nothing.

472 offendi  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:04:37pm

re: #394 MandyManners

Bristol Palin is neither.

Doesn't matter. Sadly. Her Mom is a public figure who has chosen to run for Vice President. Mom's character, virtues, competency, and abilities , success or failure in this regard, become fair game, even when it concerns inter-family events. Look at divorced politicians, whose prior marriages, child support and involvement with their kids are scrutinized and dissected. This is why so many people would never run for office.

You run for office, you ask to be judged. Palin knew this was coming, so it was released over a major holiday weekend. She subjected her kid to this on a national level, when it would have been only of interest in Alaska otherwise. I hope the kid thinks it is worth it.

473 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:05:21pm

Classic hammer hammer/anvil attack.

/one anarchy person broke the perimeter with a large backpack and circled behind (so says the helicopter)

474 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:05:26pm

re: #455 JeremyR

all depends on the gun. my wife shoots the sp101 .357 but cannot handle the cz 9mm, makarov, the .380's, but does like her walther PP .32 cal.

go figure

475 kcladderman  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:06:44pm

re: #472 offendi

Doesn't matter. Sadly. Her Mom is a public figure who has chosen to run for Vice President. Mom's character, virtues, competency, and abilities , success or failure in this regard, become fair game, even when it concerns inter-family events. Look at divorced politicians, whose prior marriages, child support and involvement with their kids are scrutinized and dissected. This is why so many people would never run for office.

You run for office, you ask to be judged. Palin knew this was coming, so it was released over a major holiday weekend. She subjected her kid to this on a national level, when it would have been only of interest in Alaska otherwise. I hope the kid thinks it is worth it.

It will be a non factor in a couple of days.Plus not many 17 year olds spend their days listening to douche bag political pundits on cable news shows.

476 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:06:59pm

Mass confusion.

/they need more reinforcements

477 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:07:43pm

re: #473 Killian Bundy

one anarchy person broke the perimeter with a large backpack and circled behind (so says the helicopter)

/a friendly?

478 doppelganglander  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:07:57pm

re: #468 angst

Maybe they're also fast growing because they like babies, too. I love to tell my lefty friends we will outbreed them in the end.

BTW, ever read the article about abortion losing the Florida for Gore? Seems as though the number of voters that were aborted could have swung the election for the Dems. There were a LOT of assumptions in there, but it's plausible.

I read something about that. It might have been Taranto from Best of the Web. IIRC, the assumption was the Dem women are more likely to have abortions, and children are likely to take on their parents' political beliefs; therefore, a lot of little Democrats never saw the light of day. You could never prove it one way or another, of course, but it's an interesting thought experiment. As for outbreeding the lefties, my friend who is the mother of 10 would certainly agree with you. (I'm a slacker; I only have 3.)

479 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:07:58pm

re: #463 MandyManners

Incredibly tasteful.

Mandy

Libs talk
Conservatives do.

Check out how much John and Cindy donate each year, percentage of their income vs. Barack and Michelle.
6.1% for the Obamas
25% for the McCains

[Link: www.newsday.com...]
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

480 Guy_Philly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:08:56pm

re: #231 Typicalwhitey

RCP has him at +4.5

I expect Palin to give a barnburner of a speech and to wow them at the convention.

Then I want to see what the "polls' say.

I've studied polls for several elections now ... I've found that most are slanted (Dems have some, Repubs have some , MSMs have theirs, etc.). Quinapiac (spelling?) leans far left, CNN leans left, Gallop is very slightly left (but maybe just sloppy). I have found that Rasmussen is most acurate followed very closely by Zogby. These are the best pollsters to watch. Their reputation depends on good performance and they do their best to live up to it. Of course, the most acurate polls are the ones that are reported when all votes are cast!

481 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:09:24pm

re: #476 Killian Bundy

Are you listening to a scanner?

482 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:09:26pm

Anarchy people are still cornered.

/many arrests pending if the police can get this organized

483 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:09:42pm

re: #481 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Are you listening to a scanner?

/yep

484 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:10:28pm

re: #434 looking closely

.45 ball ammo has a reputation for exiting ("overpenetration"), and I've seen it happen. Soft ammo is less likely to do this.

I've also seen more than one one-hit stops with 9mm, including a case where a guy was shot under the right armpit. Bullet went through his right lung, through his heart, through his left lung, and exited, leaving 8 separate wound holes. Needless to say the victim didn't last long.

Another one was a head shot. Unlike the last story I related, this 9mm entered the side of the victims head turning its contents to pulp.

The moral of the story is that its mostly about shot placement.

I dont go for ball ammo for that reason. I like JHP rounds, or in my rifles, PSP. Shot placement matters, but when you are doing a dance of death with a perp who also want to kill you with his piece, its awefully hard to get them zaccly where we want em. I once saw a security cam video of a shoot out involving DEA and some drug dealers in which all participants had high capacity pistols and multiple mags. After all had fired their two or three mags, it devolved into a foot chase. 140 or more shots fired in a space three vehicles long, no hits on either side.

485 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:12:44pm
Give them a dispersal order?

We don't need a dispersal order, we've already dealt with them!

Felony arrest.

Arrest team in position.

Cuff 'em, don't let them run.

30 seconds.

/here we go

486 angst  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:12:53pm

re: #448 pat

Good one. See my 433. My BIL is an Assemblies Minister with a Doctorate. Same church as Ms Palins Wassilia church.

The left consistently believes that conservatives are all the same, and generally dimwitted. That is one of the many reasons they are going absolutely berserk over Sarah Palin. She is is causing such a schism in their party and in their heads that it is almost tragic to see.

I've been watching real feminists duke it out with the folks suffering from Palin Derangement Syndrome all day on the lefty blogs. It's almost sad thing to see. Women are not going to forget how the media and nutroots handled Palin and Hillary. Their eyes are slowly being forced open.

487 pat  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:13:02pm

Britt Hume speculating that this will help seal her credentials with conservative Christians

488 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:13:31pm
All nonemergency traffic stand by

/how many will they get?

489 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:14:16pm

Amy Goodman arrested. ** coldsnap: Comms raid in progress at 6th & Wall. Legal observer on the scene. 9 in custody, property being seized.

490 doppelganglander  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:16:29pm

re: #480 Guy_Philly

The main think I look for in a poll is whether it's adults, registered voters or likely voters. The polls of likely voters are generally the most accurate, and most of those show a spread of less than 3 points, which is generally within the margin of error. In a year in which all signs point to a Democrat landslide, Obama cannot seal the deal, or even escape the margin of error. That's why, last Thursday, I very confidently bet my daughter it'll be McCain on Nov. 4th.

491 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:16:32pm
Tell them to sit down and put their hands over their head.

/arrests in progress

492 pat  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:16:32pm

re: #489 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Amy Goodman arrested. ** coldsnap: Comms raid in progress at 6th & Wall. Legal observer on the scene. 9 in custody, property being seized.

I am really jealous i dont get that stuff

493 FrogMarch  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:16:32pm

re: #9 Bill Amos

You knw the left is attack Sarah Palin's daughter for having a baby they better start worrying more about Joe Biden's son Beau


Business dealings of Biden family could be problematic for him
Scott Olson / Getty Images
Sen. Joe Biden fields questions as his son Hunter Biden looks on at a campaign stop in December, 2007, prior to the elder Biden's dropping out of the race for the Democratic nomination.
His brother and sons have close ties to a law firm that has benefited from the senator's congressional votes.

[Link: www.latimes.com...]


A vote for Obama and Biden is a vote for NANCY PELOSI AND HARRY REID

494 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:16:50pm

re: #489 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Amy Goodman arrested. ** coldsnap: Comms raid in progress at 6th & Wall. Legal observer on the scene. 9 in custody, property being seized.

I guess that'll be her next book.

495 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:17:08pm
496 angst  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:17:12pm

re: #478 doppelganglander

I read something about that. It might have been Taranto from Best of the Web. IIRC, the assumption was the Dem women are more likely to have abortions, and children are likely to take on their parents' political beliefs; therefore, a lot of little Democrats never saw the light of day. You could never prove it one way or another, of course, but it's an interesting thought experiment. As for outbreeding the lefties, my friend who is the mother of 10 would certainly agree with you. (I'm a slacker; I only have 3.)

Yes, that's it, alright. An interesting thought experiment to say the least.

I, too, am a three-kid slacker. Kudos to your sister. I am serious when I say Sarah Palin has learned a lot about dealing with infantile foreign regimes just by being a mother of five. Your sister could be Secretary of State!

497 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:17:20pm

re: #482 Killian Bundy

Anarchy people are still cornered.

/many arrests pending if the police can get this organized

what do you call these turds? An anarcho-synergic?

maybe a mass of pepperball targets.

498 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:18:11pm

No audio, but as Killian Bundy describes. People seated, hands on heads, cops in riot gear.

499 Dasher  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:18:25pm

Ok I don't have a clue and neither does acronymfinder.com What is VPILF and GILF, and PILF?

500 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:19:14pm
There may be some unrelated people involved with that group.

Zombie?

We have the group encircled, we're moving in with arrest teams.

/they just asked if the booking people are ready so it sounds like they bagged a whole bunch, calling for medics

501 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:20:34pm

re: #499 Dasher

Ok I don't have a clue and neither does acronymfinder.com What is VPILF and GILF, and PILF?

variants of MILF - mother i'd like to f***

g for grandma
vp for vice president

502 angst  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:20:36pm

re: #495 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Live video from the RNC protests

The narrator/videographer is a moonbat who is being arrested. Thank you for this insight into the scary mind of a protester.

All she really wants is to be arrested. WHo cares about the message.

503 angst  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:21:06pm

re: #498 Who Watches the Watchmen?

No audio, but as Killian Bundy describes. People seated, hands on heads, cops in riot gear.

I got audio. It's hilarious.

504 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:21:11pm

re: #499 Dasher

Ok I don't have a clue and neither does acronymfinder.com What is VPILF and GILF, and PILF?

They are expansions of an acronym, "MILF," from a goofy teen sex movie of some years ago. It stands for "Mom I would Like to ****."
(You did ask)

505 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:22:31pm

re: #502 angst

The narrator/videographer is a moonbat who is being arrested. Thank you for this insight into the scary mind of a protester.

All she really wants is to be arrested. WHo cares about the message.

Being arrested proves the establishment is keeping them down!

Never mind the all the criminal parts.

506 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:22:43pm

Mace, urine and feces, felonies all.

/noncompliant ones standing in the middle of the sitting, compliant ones

507 rabidfox  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:22:57pm

#345 Offendi, I'm planning to stop by the local RNC HQ, donate some money and pick up a McCain/Palin yard sign. Kids get to fooling around and life happens. How the families handle the situation is what is important.

508 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:23:35pm

re: #503 angst

I got audio. It's hilarious.

Ahh, audio works in Firefox but not Safari. Keep those credentials visible!

509 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:23:53pm

SPIDER!

510 angst  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:24:35pm

re: #505 jcm

Being arrested proves the establishment is keeping them down!

Never mind the all the criminal parts.

I love how she keeps harping that this is "witnessed" "recorded" and "documented." I guess so that her kids can embarrass her with it when she's all grown up.

511 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:25:25pm

re: #499 Dasher

Ok I don't have a clue and neither does acronymfinder.com What is VPILF and GILF, and PILF?

VP I'd like to....

Mom I'd like to...

Grandmom I'd like to....

512 doppelganglander  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:26:03pm

re: #496 angst

Yes, that's it, alright. An interesting thought experiment to say the least.

I, too, am a three-kid slacker. Kudos to your sister. I am serious when I say Sarah Palin has learned a lot about dealing with infantile foreign regimes just by being a mother of five. Your sister could be Secretary of State!

I always thought, after raising my kids, I was probably qualified to head up any military operation smaller than the invasion of Normandy Beach. BTW, it's a friend of mine, not my sister, but I wish she was.

513 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:26:03pm

re: #510 angst

I love how she keeps harping that this is "witnessed" "recorded" and "documented." I guess so that her kids can embarrass her with it when she's all grown up.

The seem to have forgotten MLK's Letter from a Birmingham Jail. Never mind forgetting, they've never heard of it.

514 angst  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:26:21pm

re: #508 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Ahh, audio works in Firefox but not Safari. Keep those credentials visible!

I don't know much about computers. I clicked your link, and it worked!

515 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:26:42pm

re: #508 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Ahh, audio works in Firefox but not Safari. Keep those credentials visible!

I get audio in safari

516 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:26:47pm

Moving the compliant people out to the north, and releasing them?

/the rest are in real trouble

517 Dasher  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:26:56pm

re: #501 spidly

Ah -- got it ! :-)

518 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:27:40pm

re: #489 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Amy Goodman arrested. ** coldsnap: Comms raid in progress at 6th & Wall. Legal observer on the scene. 9 in custody, property being seized.

Goodman has built a lucrative career around biting the hand that feeds her, ie claiming that the mainstream media are part and parcel of the great Hallibushitler conspiracy. It will be interesting to see how her estranged allies treat her arrest. My guess is they will put ideology above mutual loyalty and present her as a "progressive author," rather than the terror tool and conspira-loon agitator she is.

519 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:27:47pm

re: #510 angst

I love how she keeps harping that this is "witnessed" "recorded" and "documented." I guess so that her kids can be embarrassed by her with it when she's all they grown up.

Fixed it for ya.

520 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:29:58pm

Obama camp denies report Biden said Israel will have to reconcile to nuclear Iran

In response, Senator Biden's press secretary David Wade released a statement saying "This is a lie peddled by partisan opponents of Senators Obama and Biden and we will not tolerate anyone questioning Senator Biden?s 35-year record of standing up for the security of Israel."
521 pat  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:30:04pm

CNN. Palin to be indicted for trying to fire BIL. What a lot of BS.

522 tradewind  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:33:00pm

Whoah. Geraldine Ferarro says she might vote for McCain-Palin!

523 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:33:35pm

re: #510 angst

I love how she keeps harping that this is "witnessed" "recorded" and "documented." I guess so that it will her kids can embarrass her when and if with it when she's all grows grown up.


a better fix

524 BrianA  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:33:49pm

OT: Hume reports that the Rev. Wright is at it again....calls Obama a black boy who just might end up being the first Pres. sleeping with a black girl in the
White House...legally. (paraphrased)

525 Jimash  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:33:57pm

re: #495 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Thank you !

526 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:34:24pm

re: #521 pat

CNN. Palin to be indicted for trying to fire BIL. What a lot of BS.

Camp Obama is getting really, really desperate.

527 Macker  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:34:59pm

re: #504 Shiplord Kirel

They are expansions of an acronym, "MILF," from a goofy teen sex movie of some years ago. It stands for "Mom I would Like to ****."
(You did ask)

The movie was American Pie. WARNING: NSFW!

528 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:37:31pm

re: #478 doppelganglander

I read something about that. It might have been Taranto from Best of the Web. IIRC, the assumption was the Dem women are more likely to have abortions, and children are likely to take on their parents' political beliefs; therefore, a lot of little Democrats never saw the light of day. You could never prove it one way or another, of course, but it's an interesting thought experiment. As for outbreeding the lefties, my friend who is the mother of 10 would certainly agree with you. (I'm a slacker; I only have 3.)

Grandchildren are the big payoff. I have two of them I am not really allowed to see. I am terminally estranged from their mother, my stolen and brainwashed older daughter.
I adore them nonetheless (or perhaps especially). They'll have a million bucks or more waiting for them in a trust fund, which will be my final statement to my ingrate offspring and her evil mother and stepfather.
My younger daughter, who has a different mom and who is consequently devoted to me, is getting married next year, so there may yet be some grandbabies who will actually get to know me.

529 kynna  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:38:14pm

re: #526 jcm

Camp Obama is getting really, really desperate.

Okay, now I'm pissed off again. Is she about to get Nifonged on a national level? The media is really pushing it. They're scared, but that doesn't mean they won't be dangerous. They don't mind lying hard for their candidate for two more months. That's how they got Bill Clinton elected.

That trooper-gate thing is as bogus as the day is long.

530 kuffar  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:38:30pm

CNN is misrepresenting Sarah Palin's stance on femal reproductive rights.


This is her stance on that issue.

531 FrogMarch  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:38:46pm

Just as we thought - Yahoo News reporting the protesters at the RNC.
No mention of same protesters when they were at the DNC.

Bias anyone?

532 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:39:12pm

Well, it sounds like they have all the anarchy people they want to arrest and the situation is almost under control.

And the part of the crowd they just released has started to chant.

/what did the police think they'd do?

533 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:40:46pm

re: #532 Killian Bundy

Well, it sounds like they have all the anarchy people they want to arrest and the situation is almost under control.

And the part of the crowd they just released has started to chant.

/what did the police think they'd do?

do anarchists chant together or are they all doing their own thing?

534 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:40:54pm

re: #529 kynna

Okay, now I'm pissed off again. Is she about to get Nifonged on a national level? The media is really pushing it. They're scared, but that doesn't mean they won't be dangerous. They don't mind lying hard for their candidate for two more months. That's how they got Bill Clinton elected.

That trooper-gate thing is as bogus as the day is long.

It boils down, to her writing letters to those in charge of the State Police, complaining about behavior that was confirmed in an investigation BEFORE SHE WAS GOVERNOR!

If the media wants scandal go interview the moose's widow and children.

535 doppelganglander  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:41:31pm

re: #528 Shiplord Kirel

I read your post a few days ago about that situation. What a tragedy all around. It may seem hopeless now, but you never know how people's hearts can change as the years pass. Best wishes to your younger daughter, and may she be fruitful and multiply.

536 solomonpanting  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:41:36pm

re: #521 pat

CNN. Palin to be indicted for trying to fire BIL. What a lot of BS.

The man in the middle is former commissioner, Monegan, who says Palin never told him to fire the trooper, but he felt pressure to do so from members of her administration.Then there's trooper Mike Wooten, who used a Taser on his stepson, Palin's nephew Payton. Wooten has been reprimanded for violating nearly a dozen laws and departmental policies since December 2001.

Imagine wanting to fire this officer for a dozen violations! Not very tolerant of Palin.
/

537 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:42:00pm

re: #533 spidly

do anarchists chant together or are they all doing their own thing?

/it sounds a lot like what Zombie got involved in last week in Denver

538 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:42:30pm

The RNC protestors are terrorists, plain and simple. Their stated goal is to sabotage the democratic process by shutting down the GOP convention. Imho, there is no level of force that would not be justified to prevent this.

539 kynna  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:43:06pm

re: #530 kuffar

CNN is misrepresenting Sarah Palin's stance on femal reproductive rights.


This is her stance on that issue.

Even that article misrepresents her. They're saying she supports teaching creationism in school and that's not true. Fully discussed here at LGF. The only way you can come to that conclusion is if you take out half her comments.

They are in serious LIE mode over this one.

540 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:43:06pm

Police report 56 arrests, 7 being felonies, and expect number to rise

541 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:43:28pm
Mass arrest

/well, I guess the anarchy people's day is pretty much over

542 angst  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:43:43pm

re: #521 pat

CNN. Palin to be indicted for trying to fire BIL. What a lot of BS.

I hope she can survive all this. But honestly, it's to be expected. She undoubtedly made a lot of enemies with her efforts at reform. And the MSM has gone completely off the tracks trying to discredit her. I hope this is all worked out before Sept. 4.

Unbelievable.

543 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:44:50pm

re: #540 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Police report 56 arrests, 7 being felonies, and expect number to rise

What are you listening to?

/I'm getting it off a scanner

544 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:45:41pm

Amy Goodman & Democracy Now! staff arrested

I just got a call from Nick of Houston IMC and Dennis of Democracy Now! reporting that a Snake March of around 50 people was cut into at least 2 groups with the police surrounding and arresting around 30 participants at the Corner of 7th St. and Temperance in St. Paul.

Among those arrested were members of the Tejas Bloc and Democray Now! Host Amy Goodman, Producers Sharif Abdel Kouddous, Nicole Salazar and Paul (whose last name and roll I didn't catch). Nick has video which he will try to edit promptly. We'll try to get more info at as soon as we can.

RoB Houston IMC

545 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:46:24pm

re: #543 Killian Bundy

What are you listening to?

/I'm getting it off a scanner

Sorry, forgot the link. [Link: twitter.com...]
/mileage may vary

546 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:46:37pm

re: #537 Killian Bundy

/it sounds a lot like what Zombie got involved in last week in Denver

Found on anarchist web site.
Drawing of Molotov cocktail. Titled; Poor Richard's D.I.Y. Urban Self Defense. Fits in T.P.D. cup holders (Tacoma Police Dept.)

547 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:46:55pm

re: #544 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Amy Goodman & Democracy Now! staff arrested

/figures

548 kcladderman  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:47:13pm

re: #542 angst

I hope she can survive all this. But honestly, it's to be expected. She undoubtedly made a lot of enemies with her efforts at reform. And the MSM has gone completely off the tracks trying to discredit her. I hope this is all worked out before Sept. 4.

Unbelievable.

My god their arms must be tired from all the shit they have been flinging.
I do believe though that everyone but the die hard leftest will see all of this for what it is. BULLSHIT

549 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:47:55pm

re: #541 Killian Bundy

/well, I guess the anarchy people's day is pretty much over

you think the anarchists take a principled stand before the court and refuse to acknowledge its authority
or
do they argue their rights guaranteed them by the constitution they reject have been violated

550 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:47:56pm

St. Paul PD press conference in progress.

551 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:49:15pm

re: #546 jcm

Molotov cocktail

/that's about the only thing the anarchy people haven't used, yet

552 FrogMarch  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:49:34pm
553 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:49:54pm

re: #535 doppelganglander

Many thanks, D.
I know I am asking for the lizards' indulgence in discussing these personal issues here, but it is a very big part of who I am, and it helps a great deal to get it out in public.
Many years ago, I turned down an invitation to discuss it, and possibly confront the offenders, on a national talk show. They offered 20 times the usual appearance fee (which is actually not a whole lot). I told them I would not do it for a million dollars since my daughter was still a child at the time. She is 30 now and I may yet expose this to the whole world if the opportunity arises.
For any lurkers out there, this does not color my politics, since my brother Judas (aka Dan) is actually pretty far to the right of me on the usual spectrum, ie he is a Christian Dominionist nutjob in many respects.

554 FrogMarch  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:49:58pm

re: #542 angst

I hope she can survive all this. But honestly, it's to be expected. She undoubtedly made a lot of enemies with her efforts at reform. And the MSM has gone completely off the tracks trying to discredit her. I hope this is all worked out before Sept. 4.

Unbelievable.

Anyone have a link?

555 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:50:22pm

and how many of the anarchists are going to miss Hannah Montana for a month when their parents get them home

556 angst  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:50:32pm

re: #521 pat

CNN. Palin to be indicted for trying to fire BIL. What a lot of BS.

Did you see that on TV? I am looking at the web site but all I see is that she hired a lawyer three weeks ago. It says its from the ticker.

557 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:51:11pm

re: #549 spidly

What to do if stopped by a cop

1. Immediately Demand To See A Judge (Courts Are Presumed To Be Open 24/7 - 365 Days/Per Year.) Why Argue Complex Legal Issues With Someone With Average Intelligence?

2. If Refused, Tell The Cop: "Thank You, You Have Just Earned Your Judges A Complaint With The Board Of Judicial Standards. A Complaint Will Be Filed As Soon As I Am Released.”

3. Ignore Any And All Threats And Attempts At Intimidations.

4. Do Not Even Give Your Name. Anything You Say Or Write, Even Your Name Can Be Used Against You In Court Or As A Psychological Weapon Against You. Give Your Name Only To The Judge.

5. On Every Piece Of Paper Presented To You Write: “Void: Signed Under Threat, Duress, and Coercion” Sign It With Your First And Last Name But Replace Your Middle Name With “Duress.”

6. Refuse A Lawyer.

7. Tell The Judge "I Am Arresting You For Obstruction Of Justice." Ignore Any And All Threats And Attempts At Intimidations From The Judge. Ignore Any Court "Rulings" As They Are Invalid. Good Job!

558 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:52:57pm

Doing some quick math, I'm pretty sure the day's arrests are going to exceed 100.

/and they're probably not done because they let all the people who sat down and complied in the last arrest go

559 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:54:42pm

re: #557 Who Watches the Watchmen?

What to do if stopped by a cop

think that'd fall in the NO category in the Chris Rock bit about how not to get your as kicked by the police.

may as well cut to the chase and yell "what the f*** you want mother f*****!"

560 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:54:53pm

re: #557 Who Watches the Watchmen?

What to do if stopped by a cop

Learn to repeat this phrase....
DON'T TAZE ME BRO!

561 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:54:53pm
Dispatch 33 Delta.

/they've been busy all day

562 LEGION  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:55:37pm

Gustav a mere Cat. 1 now, little damage and deaths, too bad for the demonrats who wanted a big disaster to take attention away from the Republicans who btw spent their time raising money for the victims of the small amt of damage. We are Americans, the demonrats are NOT.

563 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:56:02pm

re: #559 spidly

think that'd fall in the NO category in the Chris Rock bit about how not to get your as kicked by the police.

may as well cut to the chase and yell "what the f*** you want mother f*****!"

That was a great video.
"Step 1: OBEY THE LAW."

564 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:57:01pm

re: #557 Who Watches the Watchmen?

re: #561 Killian Bundy

Just checking in for any updates in re the protests. Thanks, you two. Now I am back to work for awhile.

565 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:58:47pm

Anybody see Bill Kristol go after Mort Kondracke on the Bristol Palin pregnancy? Wow...Kristol called Kondracke inappropriate to question what sexual prevention she was using in light of Sarah Palin's view on abstinency. Kristol was fired up.

566 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:58:48pm

I'm amazed that nobody has yet mentioned Niven's Laws (or if they did, that I missed it)

1. Never throw shit at an armed man.
*Never stand next to someone who is throwing shit at an armed man.
567 pat  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:59:19pm

re: #556 angst

Yeah, It was just some reporter shooting her mouthoff. BTW, Fox really needs that story you guoted bout Palin. Kondrake ran with the abstinence thing and implied Palin was a hardliner. Mara was incensed. Maybe you can email it Britt Hume.

568 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 3:59:57pm

re: #557 Who Watches the Watchmen?

And if you try this crap in the "Democratic Socialist" states that they wish to emulate you get another ten years of GULAG time.


Local news is on.

569 angst  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:00:06pm

re: #557 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I really thought this was satire until I clicked on the link and found it was published by IndyMedia.

Although, the frequent capitalizations should have been my first clue.

570 pat  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:00:11pm

re: #565 jas

Anybody see Bill Kristol go after Mort Kondracke on the Bristol Palin pregnancy? Wow...Kristol called Kondracke inappropriate to question what sexual prevention she was using in light of Sarah Palin's view on abstinency. Kristol was fired up.

So was Mara. Britt had to tell her to be quiet.

571 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:00:19pm

re: #557 Who Watches the Watchmen?

OMG I just took a peek at the little live blog over at "theuptake" and someone is calling for everybody to do something in their own home town. This guy was in Cleveland!

572 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:00:22pm

Whoa.

Jon Voight is at the RNC.

573 pat  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:01:58pm

From angst #437
The fact is, regardless of what you will hear over the next few days, Bristol's pregnancy is not a legitimate political issue. Sarah Palin is a longterm member of a group called Feminists for Life, which is not opposed to birth control. So you probably can't tag her for consigning young people to unwanted pregnancies.

From TIME.

574 jas  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:02:27pm

re: #572 The Other Les

Whoa.

Jon Voight is at the RNC.

He's a big backer of McCain. He's been on with Glenn Beck. He says he's seen firsthand the deception of the left, especially when it came to Viet Nam.

575 Jimash  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:03:09pm

re: #560 jcm

That's a lot more useful than those other instructions.

576 Minnesota Ronin  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:03:36pm

What a surprise.... The ACLU is set up across the street from the Ramsey County jail waiting for the protesters to get released

577 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:03:55pm

re: #560 jcm

Learn to repeat this phrase....
DON'T TAZE ME BRO!

I'd taxer someone just for addressing me as "bro'.

FOX 9 is showing video of thugs breaking Macy's store windows and police car windows and showing a flat tire on the FOX 9 van.

578 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:05:19pm

re: #569 angst

I really thought this was satire until I clicked on the link and found it was published by IndyMedia.

Although, the frequent capitalizations should have been my first clue.

Shatnerisms

579 Minnesota Ronin  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:05:19pm
FOX 9 is showing video of thugs breaking Macy's store windows and police car windows and showing a flat tire on the FOX 9 van.

KARE 11 pretty much glazed over what happened today.

There's a shock.

580 jcm  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:05:52pm

re: #577 The Other Les

I'd taxer someone just for addressing me as "bro'.

FOX 9 is showing video of thugs breaking Macy's store windows and police car windows and showing a flat tire on the FOX 9 van.

What cracks up is people complaining about tazer use.
Hint for 'em: Every cop that carries one..... has been tazed.

581 musicman  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:07:21pm

re: #565 jas

This is probably not going to happen..but what would be the reaction if the Palin's daughter admitted whether contraception was used or not? I'm not saying that this is any of our business in any sense, but if contraception was used and it failed would speak volumes.

582 spidly  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:09:17pm

re: #580 jcm

What cracks up is people complaining about tazer use.
Hint for 'em: Every cop that carries one..... has been tazed.

the police got into trouble in Portland for wearing "don't choke 'em, smoke'em " t-shirts when the city banned the use of the sleeper hold.

getting shot or whacked on the head is so much safer. I don't know if they ever reversed that idiotic ruling.

583 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:09:46pm

re: #579 Minnesota Ronin

KARE 11 pretty much glazed over what happened today.

There's a shock.

/I bet neither channel reported the feces and urine that was flung in the final confrontation

584 angst  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:12:16pm

re: #567 pat

Yeah, It was just some reporter shooting her mouthoff. BTW, Fox really needs that story you guoted bout Palin. Kondrake ran with the abstinence thing and implied Palin was a hardliner. Mara was incensed. Maybe you can email it Britt Hume.

Thanks for the idea. I sent it to Fox News that's the only email address I could find. I think it wouldn't hurt for many of the lizardoid minions to email it to the media. Here's is the link explaining that Palin is not opposed to contraception:
TIME.

It's on the second page.

585 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:12:25pm

re: #580 jcm

What cracks up is people complaining about tazer use.
Hint for 'em: Every cop that carries one..... has been tazed.

/out of all this, I only heard one "taser deployment" call today, although it's not dark here yet

586 Minnesota Ronin  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:12:27pm
/I bet neither channel reported the feces and urine that was flung in the final confrontation

Sure didn't!

587 Sylvester_T_Cat  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:13:57pm

re: #554 FrogMarch

Anyone have a link?

I think you're asking about the so-called 'troopergate' deal. Here's a decent link for that, which includes a lot of sub-links to nail the information down:

[Link: www.floppingaces.net...]

588 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:14:00pm
589 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:14:11pm

re: #586 Minnesota Ronin

Sure didn't!

I seem to have a diarrhea issue at the moment.

590 FrogMarch  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:14:47pm
591 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:15:30pm
592 RubyTuesday  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:15:47pm

The Dems thought Gustav proved there was a God? Maybe. Bush, Jindal, et al, are too busy doing their jobs to be rock stars. They're tending to running the country. BUT they trust their wives to handle the convention speech making until the coast is safe. Sorry Dems, can't gloat over this either.

593 FrogMarch  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:16:20pm

re: #587 Sylvester_T_Cat

Thanks. This smells to high heaven. and it's not Palin.

594 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:17:55pm

re: #586 Minnesota Ronin

Sure didn't!

And I know it's true, because the officer who uttered it was the assault leader, on comm.

/we lawyers call that an excited utterance, admissible in court, you won't catch me down there volunteering to defend these filthy serial miscreants, seriously, give me a murderer, they're nonpolitical

595 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:18:41pm

re: #589 The Other Les

I seem to have a diarrhea issue at the moment.

Head downtown.

/they'll supply the bags

596 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:20:12pm

re: #594 Killian Bundy

And I know it's true, because the officer who uttered it was the assault leader, on comm.

/we lawyers call that an excited utterance, admissible in court, you won't catch me down there volunteering to defend these filthy serial miscreants, seriously, give me a murderer, they're nonpolitical

Oh and they declared it a crime scene.

/so, I'm sure they're collecting all the pertinent evidence

597 angst  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:22:43pm

re: #590 FrogMarch

This is just the democrat slime machine digging in the dirt for anything. I hope it backfires on them.

Oh, this is all old. They're just using the "hired a lawyer" schtick to bring it back into the headlines. I expect a briefing every couple of days, like "Lead investigator into Troopergate appears to have lost weight from worry," and "Troopergate investigation runs out of pencils- Palin links to timber company suspected."

598 shiplord kirel  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:23:53pm

When a cop screams "SHIT!" into an open mike, he is merely identifying the enemy's weapons rather than engaging in profanity.

599 Jimash  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:24:29pm

any of you poor devils still watching cSpan ?
Did they just trot out the most lefty stuff they can find or is this the normal fare ?

600 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:32:47pm

Typical anarcho-lefty comment:

[Comment From 420]
It's encouraging to watch the delegates having to scurry about like the rats they are. Viva la Fallujah!

420--did you think of that all by yourself?

601 2SoonOld2LateSmart  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:33:18pm

When are they going to bring out the 'Brown Note' on these anarchists?

602 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:38:58pm

re: #600 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Typical anarcho-lefty comment:

420--did you think of that all by yourself?

Except the Delegates arrived on air conditioned buses from their hotels, filed into the Excel under a canopy, did their business, and went partying.

/none of the anarchy people got close enough to the Delegates today to even know what the buses looked like

603 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:41:32pm

re: #601 2SoonOld2LateSmart

When are they going to bring out the 'Brown Note' on these anarchists?

I'm not sure that's really necessary. Very few of the anarchy people escaped flexcuffs today.

/then again, the day's not over

604 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:46:56pm

I just saw in the news the thugs attacked the delegation from my state.

605 Killian Bundy  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 4:52:17pm

re: #604 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I just saw in the news the thugs attacked the delegation from my state.

How did that happen?

/they all came by chartered bus, or was it in the last hour?

606 rorschach  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 5:05:20pm

I've been trying to watch on PJM TV, but it keeps crashing my browser.

607 norar  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 5:42:22pm

re: #590 FrogMarch

This is just the democrat slime machine digging in the dirt for anything. I hope it backfires on them.

Palin stepped on the toes of too many people when fighting corraption. As it usually goes with dirty politicians, they will try to pile dirt on her in return. She looks too smart to be involved in any miscondact while fighting corraption. However, investigations take time, and it will take time to clear her from the accusations. There is no doubt that MSM will make not only a song and dance with this, but the whole musical. The question is whether they'll let us know when she is aquitted.

608 eclectic infidel  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 7:51:32pm

re: #489 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Amy Goodman arrested. ** coldsnap: Comms raid in progress at 6th & Wall. Legal observer on the scene. 9 in custody, property being seized.

I hope she successfully sues the *** out of those cops. Bunch of cretins with a badge.

609 Ledger1  Mon, Sep 1, 2008 11:57:08pm

re: #36 Rancher

Sorry rancher, I tried to Up-ding you but my cursor hit the wrong button. I will start wearing my glasses again (too bad I can't reverse the ding).

610 Rancher  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 2:27:04am

re: #609 Ledger1

You down-dinged me? Get a rope.


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