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Yet Another Daily Kos Hate Blog Down the Memory Hole

Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:32:36 am PDT

That Daily Kos diarist who’s been posting vile smears against Sarah Palin and her family has suddenly vanished down the memory hole: Daily Kos: Sarah Palin Is NOT The Mother [Photos+Video].

UPDATE at 9/2/08 8:58:52 am:

That diary isn’t the only one deleted; everything posted by “arcxix” has disappeared: Daily Kos :: Diaries :: arcxix.

UPDATE at 9/2/08 9:13:03 am:

Here’s the Google cache of the diary: Daily Kos: Sarah Palin Is NOT The Mother [Photos Video].

UPDATE at 9/2/08 9:59:59 am:

The original “speculative” post about Sarah Palin being the real mother was by another Kos Kid, and it’s still there: Daily Kos: Palin’s faked “pregnancy”? Covering for teen daughter? UPDATE #2!

(Hat tip: Dr. Rusty.)

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1 rawmuse  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:34:28am

Hare-brained today, gone tomorrow.

2 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:34:40am

Go figure.

/delete

3 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:35:19am

Was it banned, too?

4 Drained Brain  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:35:27am

To make room for more filth, no doubt.

5 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:35:44am

And Kos is Winston Smith.

6 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:35:57am

That reminds me of a little kid who covers their eyes and thinks that YOU can't see THEM.
IGNORANT!

7 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:36:35am

Kos, having a fit of sanity? Naaahh...

8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:36:36am

Oh, dont worry, they'll get something just as nasty up again soon

9 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:37:02am

I'm curious:

1. Can the media and Left keep up this level of attack through to November?
(I sure hope so because it's rallying people I know to McCain that didn't give a whit just three days ago)

2. What are Nancy Pelosi's 5 children up to and are they all perfect; living perfect lives?

Hmm....

10 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:37:16am

Doubleplus ungoodthink!

11 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:37:25am

I can GUARANTEE you that this disappeared at the behest of Obama.

12 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:37:48am

Media Template:

The skeletons in Palins closet: Fair Game.

The skeletons in Obama's closet: Off Limits.

13 ziggyelman  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:38:22am

Well, they have been forced to mention a 24 year old DUI her husband got, and her daughter being pregnant.....I sure hope Joe Biden's wife and daughter are checked out with a fine toothed comb! Find out if Mrs. Biden has had any abortions. Perhaps they can get them kicked out of the Catholic Church!

14 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:38:45am

the reason for the KOS memory hole?

King Obama told his minions to back off.

15 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:38:46am

Google cache here.

16 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:38:54am

Kosling is afraid that Obama won't like him any more. Page got yanked for only that reason.

17 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:38:59am

re: #14 FrogMarch

the reason for the KOS memory hole?

King Obama told his minions to back off.

"yes master"

18 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:39:08am

re: #7 Fat Jolly Penguin

Kos, having a fit of sanity? Naaahh...

No. Obama told them to stop embarrassing him by posting this crap. There are still plenty more.

19 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:39:24am

re: #12 FrogMarch

Media Template:

The skeletons in Palins closet: Fair Game.

The skeletons in Obama's closet: Off Limits.

Hangin' with Terrorists: Good Judgement

Supporting your Daughter Through Tough Times: Reckless Parenting

20 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:40:03am

Four days to bury it? Oh, so this whole nonstory never happened now?

21 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:40:10am

I mentioned it in the dead thread, but the Chicago Tribune's John Kass has some things to say about this dipstick of a Daily Kos blogger:

Have American presidential politics become so hateful that a pregnant 17-year-old girl has to have the intimate details of her life exposed to the nation by character assassins?

Ask the left-wing Internet haters, the anonymous propagandists who call themselves bloggers on the Daily Kos.

And ask Bristol Palin, who didn't deserve it, and was a victim of the rumor-mongers consumed with attacking her mother, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican running mate of Sen. John McCain, because the mother is a conservative and opposes abortion.

The Internet rumors claimed that Sarah's baby, Trig, born four months ago with Down syndrome, wasn't really hers but her daughter's. They plucked some photos from the Internet, photos out of sequence, to make it appear as though Gov. Palin hadn't been pregnant, proving once again that on the Internet, the casualties are credibility and civility. Reading it, you could almost hear the saliva dripping from their teeth as they typed anonymously.

"Sarah Palin is NOT The Mother" cried one Daily Kos blogger who goes by a screen name ArcXIX. "Attention! Read The Follow-Up too! BabyGate: Explosive New Details.

"Now, I've known liars all my life," the blogger wrote. "Their single core problem is not with themselves, but those around them. If they're never called out on their twisting of truths and fabrications, they simply continue to make larger lies. Well Sarah, I'm calling you a liar and not even a good one. Trig Paxson Van Palin is not your son. He is your grandson. The sooner you come forward with this revelation to the public, the better."

I don't know if Komodo dragons can type, but their mouths are so full of bacteria that if they bite your leg you'll likely die. This anonymous Komodo was probably in mommy's basement, perhaps with a bowl of Chex Mix and a Diet Coke nearby.

Way to stay classy, Markos. First have this guy (ArcXIX) post this toilet nugget, and then delete it so you have plausible deniability.

22 TheSpartan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:40:26am

Cowards.

23 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:40:26am

re: #13 ziggyelman

Perhaps they can get them kicked out of the Catholic Church!

Catholic Church doesn't work that way ziggy...

24 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:40:29am

"I Hate Sarah Palin" from NRO David Kahane.
Pretty much says it all...and worth a good laugh if it wasn't so true!

25 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:40:34am

re: #13 ziggyelman

Well, they have been forced to mention a 24 year old DUI her husband got, and her daughter being pregnant.....I sure hope Joe Biden's wife and daughter are checked out with a fine toothed comb! Find out if Mrs. Biden has had any abortions. Perhaps they can get them kicked out of the Catholic Church!

NO! NO! NO!

26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:40:48am

re: #9 Noam Chumpski

I'm curious:

1. Can the media and Left keep up this level of attack through to November?
(I sure hope so because it's rallying people I know to McCain that didn't give a whit just three days ago)

2. What are Nancy Pelosi's 5 children up to and are they all perfect; living perfect lives?

Hmm....

1) With a bottomless supply of vitriol and seething, you bet they can

2) If you're a Dem, it means your family is off limits

27 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:41:20am

re: #7 Fat Jolly Penguin

Kos, having a fit of sanity? Naaahh...

It's Markos Moulitsas's plausible deniability. First the toilet nugget is posted, then it is flushed down the drain. Very typical, very Daily Kos.

28 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:41:27am
Sorry. I can't seem to find that story


Open the pod bay door, Hal.

29 kynna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:41:38am

Memory hole? That's the little wooden shack out back with the moon shaped window in the door, right?

30 daveolson  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:42:12am

I have always had fun skimming through DailyKos and posting comments just to annoy them. Not blatant enough so that they could discern that I was on the opposite side, but cutting nonetheless.

This attack really angers me, however. It is clear that they are trying to hit Palin as hard as they can as soon as they can - Kos version of whack-a-mole, I guess. I would guess that they are concerned that she will survive the onslaught and prove to be a formidable opponent. Go girl.

31 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:42:30am

re: #15 victor_yugo

Google cache here.


How do you save that so it doesn't disappear?

32 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:42:54am

I demand that Obama's pundit - Excitable Andy - continue to demand for the release of Palin's birthing records.


Meanwhile - Obama the smoker can still refuse to release his medical records.
It's all in the name of fairness - (just like Obama's tax plan: Tax certain groups out of "fairness".)

33 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:43:10am

re: #3 MandyManners

Was it banned, too?

It's on Daily Kos. The only things that get banned there are Republicans, conservatives, and Hillary Clinton supporters.

34 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:43:33am

The hamsters are starting to get annoyed....

35 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:43:38am

Recall how unglued the left was over the "Swiftboating" of Lurch.

Yet watch them gleefully pick over Sarah Palin's entire existence like it's bloodsport.

Team McCain needs to start unloading the heavy artillery on Obama.

Nothing is off-limits now. Run those Jeremiah Wright and Ayers commercials 24/7 until election day.

36 Racer X  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:43:53am

Saw two broadcast news stations yesterday mention DailyKos as the source of the false nasty rumors. They mentioned "radical left-wing blogs".

Good job koslings - you're making the headlines.

37 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:43:58am
38 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:44:02am

The loons want more control over the asylum.....
Markos, It's Time to Let Us Clean Up DailyKos

As today's morning shows display screen caps of DailyKos while anchors chatter about "ruthless liberal bloggers," those of us in the majority who denounced the smear diarists are, to say the least, angry and outraged. After seeing our own nominee slandered by conspiracy theorists across the right-wing blogosphere, it is extremely frustrating that the many responsible and ethical users of DailyKos are being equated with the anonymous swift boaters who exploit the popularity of this site to spread scurrilous garbage.

39 SpringheelJack  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:44:06am

The article served its purpose.

I strongly doubt Kos actually thought that Sarah's baby was actually her daughter. But by putting out that loathsome smear, they forced Sarah to make a statement about her daughter being 5 months pregnant, which was the real point.

The Kos people are scum. Now, all Obama's pious statements about leaving families out of this are "inoperative". It is now open season on EVERYTHING on Obama's side. The stepbrother living in poverty. His association with Ayers and other domestic terrorists. Rev Wrights dirty little church. Everything.

40 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:44:23am

re: #31 Typicalwhitey

How do you save that so it doesn't disappear?

Right-click anywhere on the page, and there should be a menu option somewhere. Or, under the File menu at the top of the window, there might be a "Save As..." option there.

41 J.S.  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:44:29am

Oh, no! CBC journalists will no longer have access their sources! What are they going to do? ! Such an utter outrage! The Infamy!

Oh well, guess it's back to relying on Al-Jazeera, HAMAS and Hezbollah for their "news" of the day...

42 iceman1960  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:44:30am

Must be a lot of holes over there at the Kos

43 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:44:32am

re: #33 Honorary Yooper

It's on Daily Kos. The only things that get banned there are Republicans, conservatives, and Hillary Clinton supporters.

What was I thinking?!

45 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:46:13am
46 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:46:13am

I want to know about all of the financial gains to the Obama family and to the Biden family becasue of their political positions and their ties to lobbyists.


I demand the release of the documents in Chicago that show the relationship between William Ayres adn Barack Obama.

47 ziggyelman  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:46:15am

re: #31 Typicalwhitey

How do you save that so it doesn't disappear?

Well, it would take a long time, but via IE, send the page not as a link, but as a page to yourself....probably a better way, but only way I know of....

48 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:47:43am

Kos is a CIA spook.

49 ziggyelman  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:47:56am

re: #25 MandyManners

NO! NO! NO!

I am half kidding...but I REALLY, REALLY get the feeling the dems are going to find a way to get her off the ticket, they are that scared of her. So, unfair or not, someone needs to dig into the crap and see what they can find on Biden's family....and perhaps stop this sh*t once and for all.

50 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:48:36am

re: #39 SpringheelJack

The article served its purpose.

I strongly doubt Kos actually thought that Sarah's baby was actually her daughter. But by putting out that loathsome smear, they forced Sarah to make a statement about her daughter being 5 months pregnant, which was the real point.

The Kos people are scum. Now, all Obama's pious statements about leaving families out of this are "inoperative". It is now open season on EVERYTHING on Obama's side. The stepbrother living in poverty. His association with Ayers and other domestic terrorists. Rev Wrights dirty little church. Everything.

Perhaps, minors should be left out of the mud slinging. Adults are fair game.

51 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:49:02am

They're not all deleted. This one has been up for several days.

Shameless self-promotion warning: I blogged about it here. :)

52 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:49:16am

re: #44 Occasional Reader

Obama post-convention poll "bounce" small by historic standards, and already shrinking.


That's why Obama's media operatives are trying so hard to destroy the RNC.

/We must break from the RNC to bring you Breaking Gustav coverage - Up next some bore in a windbreaker.

53 colin nelson  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:49:20am

Gone but not forgotten.

That post was the most immoral and ugly concoction I have ever seen surface during a political campaign. I cannot imagine the hurt that vile poster caused the Palin family.

54 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:49:37am
55 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:50:07am

It was ALL about Palin's daughter this morning on ALL the tvs in the gym.

Good thing she didn't do coke.

56 joncelli  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:50:09am

re: #48 Ben Hur

Does Larry Johnson know about that?

57 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:50:11am

re: #49 ziggyelman

I am half kidding...but I REALLY, REALLY get the feeling the dems are going to find a way to get her off the ticket, they are that scared of her. So, unfair or not, someone needs to dig into the crap and see what they can find on Biden's family....and perhaps stop this sh*t once and for all.

The Democrats can try but, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are made of sterner stuff than the left can fathom.

58 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:50:43am

This only happened because Obama told a reporter today that "family members are off limits" for his campaign.

So they get the shots in for a few days, then the Lightworker declares "we don't go there" after the "damage" is done.

I quote "damage" because the only damage done is to the Democrats themselves. While they smugly insist they always have the high ground, they have shown themselves to have the scruples of sewer rats. Meanwhile, McCain supporters show themselves to be the more open minded and accepting group.

59 vagabond trader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:50:51am

re: #39 SpringheelJack

Remember, the Obama paid homage to KOS by speaking at their last convention.He can afford to offer high minded platitudes about family being off limits when he has the reprehensible KOS and Huff doing his hatchet jobs.

I want to see those elusive medical records for starters Barry O.

60 slotgun  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:50:53am

I find precious little comfort on the "yeah, but THEY started it" line of defense, but these crapheads on the leftern blogs are taking political discourse in this country places where it may never find its way back. Yes, historians can cite some of the truly ugly political attacks made by candidates in the 19th century and argue that it was more incendiary then, but that misses a very important point: Most of that bile was limited in its reach because of the crude forms of media in that era. Today, you can pump bilgewater onto the Internet at sunrise and reach millions by noon. Witness the NYT and its THREE stories on the front page about Palin today. They leftists reporters are drinking deep from that poisoned well, and we're all going to be the poorer for it when they get through.

61 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:52:14am

re: #51 Anthony (Los Angeles)

They're not all deleted. This one has been up for several days.

Shameless self-promotion warning: I blogged about it here. :)

How many of these nameless bloggers are sock puppets for Markos Moulitsas?

62 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:52:17am

Ah, the joys of the memory hole. Smear today, gone tomorrow.

63 J.S.  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:52:42am

re: #53 colin nelson

And that vile crap was repeated by a CBC "journalist" on last night's evening "news"...(the same one who supports Hezbollah, etc.)

64 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:52:45am

re: #55 Ben Hur

It was ALL about Palin's daughter this morning on ALL the tvs in the gym.

Good thing she didn't do coke.

Any mention that Obama was conceived out of wedlock?

....the couple married on February 2, 1961 in Maui, Hawaii.[6][1]

On August 4, 1961, at age 18, she gave birth to her first child whom she named Barack Hussein Obama II.

65 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:52:57am

One thing is that the Swiftboat folks had truth on their side. Half truths, innuendos, lies, damned lies, and statistics directed towards children of the candidates are disgusting. I wonder of kosling would do the same towards Chelsea Clinton if circumstances were the same.

66 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:53:04am

re: #57 MandyManners

The Democrats can try but, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are made of sterner stuff than the left can fathom.

Yes, ma'am!

67 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:53:44am

So now excitable Andy is diggin in the dirt on Bristol's boyfriend. What an asshole.

68 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:53:56am

Maybe it's time for McCain to start speaking about his kids.

And since when did a Veep candidate become soooo important?

Didn't the guy that Barry bought COKE from also sell to teenagers?

69 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:54:29am

This is going to backfire so bad on them.

I can't wait for her speech Wednesday!

70 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:54:41am

The kicker is that there are folks who are taking screen caps of these idiot postings. Do they really think that if they delete these numbnuts posts that it makes it okay?

Where's Markos to post a stern denunciation of this crap? Is he too busy posting his musings on Newsweek to notice? Heck, Democrat leaders still associate with Daily Kos, even after vile posting after vile posting remains for all to see.

I guess he doesn't mind his site used as a cesspool, or should I say septic system, although it looks like the crap's truly backing up for the world to see.

71 joncelli  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:54:53am

Obama's people and the MSM -- but I repeat myself -- have managed to find something to define Palin. She has to come out of the gate with a real barn-burner of a speech and then campaign like hell in order to redefine herself. I'm afraid there isn't going to be much of a convention bounce for the GOP, and McCain is falling further behind (51 to 43 according to Rasmussen, the most dependable poll).

72 Alaska Kim  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:55:10am

Good morning all.

All this talk about Sarah not being the mother is hysterical. It never ceases to amaze me the stuff people will pull out of their a$$.

73 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:55:14am

re: #67 FrogMarch

So now excitable Andy is diggin in the dirt on Bristol's boyfriend. What an asshole.

Levi Johnston is a "self-proclaimed fucking redneck".

74 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:55:19am

re: #19 Noam Chumpski

Hangin' with Terrorists: Good Judgement

Supporting your Daughter Through Tough Times: Reckless Parenting

Exactly.

75 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:55:28am

The progressives are so classy. Keep at it folks. You're going to do the Democrats real proud.

76 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:55:48am

re: #73 MandyManners

Levi Johnston is a "self-proclaimed fucking redneck".

[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

77 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:56:06am

re: #64 jcm

Nope, nor any mention that the marriage was bigamous. Obama's sole comment on Bristol was the only responsible thing to say -- kids are off limits, it's a non-issue -- so I'll give him credit for that. However, his supporters are showing their true colors. It's going to backfire on them big time.

78 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:56:24am

re: #69 Typicalwhitey

This is going to backfire so bad on them.

I can't wait for her speech Wednesday!

Is there going to be a convention tomorrow? I mean, there's Hurricane Hanna to consider.
//

79 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:56:24am

re: #67 FrogMarch

So now excitable Andy is diggin in the dirt on Bristol's boyfriend. What an asshole.

Dirt on a 17 year old in Alaska, drinking beer behind the gym, shooting at the neighbors no trespassing sign, speeding on a snowmobile! Incorrigible!

80 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:56:51am

re: #71 joncelli

and McCain is falling further behind (51 to 43 according to Rasmussen, the most dependable poll).

See my post #44 above. Some "bounce" was inevitable; and this one ain't much.

81 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:56:55am

re: #68 Ben Hur

Maybe it's time for McCain to start speaking about his kids.

And since when did a Veep candidate become soooo important?

Didn't the guy that Barry bought COKE from also sell to teenagers?

Jis triyin 2 mak it reel akordin 2 Diddy.

82 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:57:13am

re: #64 jcm

That is going to be my stock answer.

"Oh, I thought you were talking about Obama's mother."

83 jpkoch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:58:06am

I would love to be a fly on the Wall during a Kos and Obama conference call. Thanks goodness for caching. I can just see the people at Google going through thier 25TB of cached web pages in order to rip those Kos pages from History.

84 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:58:08am

re: #70 lawhawk

The kicker is that there are folks who are taking screen caps of these idiot postings. Do they really think that if they delete these numbnuts posts that it makes it okay?

Where's Markos to post a stern denunciation of this crap? Is he too busy posting his musings on Newsweek to notice? Heck, Democrat leaders still associate with Daily Kos, even after vile posting after vile posting remains for all to see.

I guess he doesn't mind his site used as a cesspool, or should I say septic system, although it looks like the crap's truly backing up for the world to see.

I think he revels in his site being used as a huge political cesspool. In factm I'll go so far as to say it may even be Markos himself making these postings under the names of sock puppets. I would not put it past him to use a sock puppet to smear a political opponent. Use the sock, and then delete the post later for plausible deniability.

Markos is beyond reprehensible, IMHO.

85 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:58:08am

re: #79 jcm

speeding on a snowmobile!

Liberals hate snowmobiles. They're even scarier than SUVs.

86 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:58:27am

re: #77 doppelganglander

Nope, nor any mention that the marriage was bigamous. Obama's sole comment on Bristol was the only responsible thing to say -- kids are off limits, it's a non-issue -- so I'll give him credit for that. However, his supporters are showing their true colors. It's going to backfire on them big time.

I'll give credit to BHO for his statement, but what else could he say? His supporters will keep digging the hole anyway.

87 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:58:31am

re: #64 jcm

If so it would be twisted to make him look like a conquering hero to have come from such a troubled background.

88 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:58:33am

re: #73 MandyManners

Levi Johnston is a "self-proclaimed fucking redneck".

and that is somehow worse than being good buddies with William Ayers.

89 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:58:54am

re: #84 Honorary Yooper


Yes he is and he shouldn't be working for Newsweek

90 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:59:07am

WHile channel surfering, I heard Juan Williams RIPPING into Daily Kos and the people that post/comment there.

91 canadianconservative  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:59:42am

Like it or not, the Dems are now tied to the Daily Kos. With the exception of Joe Biden, credit where due, ALL the Dem contenders went to the Kos Konvention to kiss the ring of anti-pope Markos Moulitsas....

Obama's protests to the contrary, the fact is, the Kos, and the Underground, and other assorted moonbat publications will continue this line of attack that will seal Obama's fate. Fact: the states the Latte Liberals of the Coasts contemptuously dismiss as "fly-over America" tends toward traditional values, and will rally to Palin and McCain.

I have posted Election predictions that will be updated as needed before the election.

92 SpringheelJack  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:59:44am

re: #49 ziggyelman

I am half kidding...but I REALLY, REALLY get the feeling the dems are going to find a way to get her off the ticket, they are that scared of her. So, unfair or not, someone needs to dig into the crap and see what they can find on Biden's family....and perhaps stop this sh*t once and for all.

It's Obama's style. It's how he won his US Senate seat, by threatening to unseal Rep opponent Ryan's divorce records, and splatter Ryan's personal sex life all over. Rather than allow that, and have his son see those records all over the Internet, Ryan bowed out and let Obama win by default.

In Obama's 1996 state senate race, he won by invalidating the ballot status of all the other challengers.

Obama's attitude is "Why win by being the better candidate, if you can eliminate your opponents by playing dirty?

93 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:00:22am

re: #82 Ben Hur

That is going to be my stock answer.

"Oh, I thought you were talking about Obama's mother."

Being the well know "right winger" I got asked this morning about, "What do you think about Palin's daughter?" I said "'bout the same as I think about Obama's mother." The look I got was priceless.

94 armytramp  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:00:43am

Hm. And the allegations that the baby was an illegitimate child of the FATHER or BROTHER of Bristol have also disappeared down the memory hole, along with nearly 2000 comments about white trash, trailer trash, hypocritical Christians, Bible thumpers, stupid rural people, yadda yadda.

We have seen the face of the enemy, and they are one nasty bunch of sewer mouthed lying rats.

Palin is SO getting my vote.

A friend of mine, a professional woman, just had a Down's Syndrome baby as well. She's a Democrat.

This round of smears did not go over well.

I'm not saying she's voting for Palin, but this episode has hurt the Dems. A lot.

95 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:00:52am

This is gonna hurt the Obama campaign. They have let this monster go unchecked for too long, and I don't think it can be reigned in. They can talk values and "middle class" all day long, but when their biggest supporters are spewing this filth, we see what the Democrat party is really made up of.

96 colin nelson  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:00:52am

#63 JS. Thanks for the heads-up. I tend to try and avoid CBC news since it is not in any real sense 'news' - rather it is a tarted up spin machine for the left and increasingly the hard left.

Since the CBC got rid of Mr. Berman (spelling) who was the network news chief for years, do you know who has taken his place? I think the net has moved even further left since his departure.

97 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:00:58am

Time for lunch - BBL

98 JSK1121  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:01:33am

re: #93 jcm

Being the well know "right winger" I got asked this morning about, "What do you think about Palin's daughter?" I said "'bout the same as I think about Obama's mother." The look I got was priceless.

You forgot to add; "only Bristol Palin won't give birth to hell-spawn."

99 SpringheelJack  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:01:55am

re: #52 FrogMarch

That's why Obama's media operatives are trying so hard to destroy the RNC.

/We must break from the RNC to bring you Breaking Gustav coverage - Up next some bore in a windbreaker.

Meanwhile, they ignored Gov Jindel's news conference on measures being taken to deal with Gustav, in favor of bores in windbreakers

100 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:01:57am

re: #88 FrogMarch

and that is somehow worse than being good buddies with William Ayers.

Only for those without a clue.

101 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:02:22am

re: #90 Ben Hur

WHile channel surfering, I heard Juan Williams RIPPING into Daily Kos and the people that post/comment there.

Why is no one ripping into Colmes?

102 kuffar  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:03:01am

I think, the allegations that Daily Kos and the Obama camp was real... They are going to expunge that account I bet. Shame, probably trace back to Axelrod or Obama...

103 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:03:25am

re: #101 MandyManners

Why is no one ripping into Colmes?

No meat on Skeletor to rip into.......

104 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:03:49am
The cause of Joe's ire was this email statement Bubriski released to the Miami Herald [emphasis added]:


Palin was a supporter of Pat Buchanan, a right-winger or as many Jews call him: a Nazi sympathizer.

WTF?

105 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:04:28am
106 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:04:34am

re: #100 MandyManners

Only for those without a clue.

Which doesn't exactly narrow it down.

107 jpkoch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:04:37am

re: #71 joncelli

Obama's people and the MSM -- but I repeat myself -- have managed to find something to define Palin. She has to come out of the gate with a real barn-burner of a speech and then campaign like hell in order to redefine herself. I'm afraid there isn't going to be much of a convention bounce for the GOP, and McCain is falling further behind (51 to 43 according to Rasmussen, the most dependable poll).


An 8 point bounce? Even that snoozer Dukakis got an 18 point bounce n 1988. And Slick Willie got a 15 point bounce in 1992. Kerry managed 10 points in 2004. The highlight of the Denver Convention was Slick Willie, not Obama. Buyer's Remorse is beginning to set in.

Obama should be leading McCain by 20 points, not 8. Like 2000, this is suppose to be a Democratic Year. Call it want you want, but my guess is that the Obama Staff is worried.

108 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:04:45am

And they list the miscreants and their alleged crimes, many not even from Minnesota.

1 - 15 of 257 results

Page 1 of 18

/and counting . . .

109 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:04:57am

re: #104 Typicalwhitey

WTF?

Obama spokesman Mark Bubriski

110 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:05:41am
111 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:05:56am

re: #88 FrogMarch

and that is somehow worse than being good buddies with William Ayers.

How many news stories will contain Levi's name compared to Ayers in the next 2 months? I think we know what the answer will be. We also know what the answer should be. One has a far greater bearing on the candidates' character and fitness than the other. Palin's daughter is going through a difficult and exciting time with the support of her family. Obama had a longstanding relationship with Ayers - an unreformed and unrepentant terrorist who plotted multiple bombings and terror attacks that would have resulted in murdering Americans (including soldiers at Fort Dix, but that plot was thwarted when that particular bomb blew up in the faces of those making the bomb, including Ayers' then girlfriend).

112 joncelli  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:06:26am

re: #91 canadianconservative

Do you have an analysis of the US House of Representatives elections? (And your analysis of Electoral College/US Senate looks right.)

113 SpringheelJack  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:06:30am

re: #64 jcm


Any mention that Obama was conceived out of wedlock?

....the couple married on February 2, 1961 in Maui, Hawaii.[6][1]

On August 4, 1961, at age 18, she gave birth to her first child whom she named Barack Hussein Obama II.


Obama was born out of wedlock as well. Obama Sr was already married in Kenya (to a woman to whom he went back to after leaving Ann Dunham), so the US marriage to Obama's mom was invalid from the beginning

114 faraway  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:07:18am

re: #31 Typicalwhitey

How do you save that so it doesn't disappear?

FightThePalinSmears is on the job. Going where Kossacks dare not go.

115 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:08:14am

re: #107 jpkoch

Obama should be leading McCain by 20 points, not 8. Like 2000, this is suppose to be a Democratic Year. Call it want you want, but my guess is that the Obama Staff is worried.

I'd say the Obama camp is shitting bricks this morning.

116 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:08:20am

I have mentioned this before, I am not an attorney (and don't play one on tv) but through happenstance, a wad of corporate lawyers work in the department I manage. One is a expert on libel and slander. She was most interested in watching all of this because apparently there is a move afoot to find some particularly odious Blog postings and do a first amendment challenge. The issue is for the Blog owner. For something to be libel it has to be known to be false when published. This is the hard part to prove. So when the Kos blogs first starting this up there is plausablility by Markos that he did not know what the truth was. However clearly by Monday the truth was out there and since it does involve a minor and someone who is not a public figure, Markos may have a legal requirement to remove it when he is certain it is false.

117 TalkinKamel  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:08:32am

It doesn't look as if the accusation that Palin supports Buchanan is especially plausible: [Link: www.haaretz.com...]

118 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:08:34am

The answer is increasingly that to avoid the rooting around in the garbage of a candidates youth or their relatives parties will turn to people like Obama. He has almost no past, only a story. The problem with Obama is that he is not a complete fake, if he was a real Manchurian Candidate, with a cover lifted from the name of a child that died 30 years ago and ID cards manufactured in the Lubyanka, he would be better at this and there would be no hesitation in bring out reams of good looking paper, birth certificate, work records, medical, etc. for the public to admire.

119 Charles  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:09:01am

re: #70 lawhawk

The kicker is that there are folks who are taking screen caps of these idiot postings. Do they really think that if they delete these numbnuts posts that it makes it okay?

I don't even bother taking screenshots any more. What's the point? They can't possibly deny it.

120 Vergeltung  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:09:03am

re: #90 Ben Hur

WHile channel surfering, I heard Juan Williams RIPPING into Daily Kos and the people that post/comment there.

he was doing the same thing on Fox last night. very cool of him I thought.

121 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:09:08am

re: #110 Ben Hur

'King Of Voiceovers' Don LaFontaine Dies

This sux.

Grab your joy-stick!

122 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:09:21am

I can top the Down-The-Memory-Hole angle.

I just did a search to find the age of Piper and Willow, the two younger daughters, and came across a website that said Daily Kos is to be credited for debunking the rumor.

Previous to this announcement, Internet rumors had suggested that the Palin family's youngest son, Trig Palin, was in fact Bristol's baby and not Sarah's. Photographic evidence posted at Daily Kos showing a visibly pregnant Sarah Palin seemed to discredit these rumors.
123 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:09:22am

Rush is LIVID!

124 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:09:37am

re: #101 MandyManners

Why is no one ripping into Colmes?

I think Rush is just getting ready to. LOL

125 jpkoch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:09:52am

Palin was a supporter of Pat Buchanan, a right-winger or as many Jews call him: a Nazi sympathizer.

Actually, Buchanan doesn't have much good to say about Palin, but does about Obama. Obama, btw is very close friends to a home grown terrorist (Ayers). The Weather Underground actually did murder people. If association with Buchanan is all they can come up with, well photos of Ayers and Obama together looking deep into each others eyes with affection will get the point across.

And the Fun is just beginning.

126 The Other Les  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:10:02am
127 J.S.  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:10:09am

re: #92 SpringheelJack

And, of course, one must not forget that The One then runs about crowing how he's engaged in a "new" type of politics -- "None of those dirty tricks now!" (while he's a master of dirty politics -- Chicago style) and then the MSM repeatedly asserts how "clean" Obama is...

128 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:10:09am

re: #104 Typicalwhitey

WTF?



She wore the button once while mayor when Buchanan visited.

She promptly responded to the story in a letter to the editor, saying that "the article may have left your readers with the perception that I am endorsing this candidate, as opposed to welcoming his visit to Wasilla. As mayor, I will welcome all the candidates in Wasilla."

Republican vice presidential candidate Governor Sarah Palin sports an Israeli flag in her lapel and displays an Israel flag in her office window despite the tiny Jewish population in her state. Republicans say "that says it all" concerning what they charge is Democratic propaganda that she once backed Pat Buchanan, whose name is anathema to most Jews.

129 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:11:00am

re: #123 Typicalwhitey

Rush is LIVID!

Palin is the new Clarence Thomas!

130 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:11:09am

re: #113 SpringheelJack

Obama was born out of wedlock as well. Obama Sr was already married in Kenya (to a woman to whom he went back to after leaving Ann Dunham), so the US marriage to Obama's mom was invalid from the beginning

Yes, but did Ann Dunham know that?

131 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:11:18am

re: #111 lawhawk

How many news stories will contain Levi's name compared to Ayers in the next 2 months? I think we know what the answer will be. We also know what the answer should be. One has a far greater bearing on the candidates' character and fitness than the other. Palin's daughter is going through a difficult and exciting time with the support of her family. Obama had a longstanding relationship with Ayers - an unreformed and unrepentant terrorist who plotted multiple bombings and terror attacks that would have resulted in murdering Americans (including soldiers at Fort Dix, but that plot was thwarted when that particular bomb blew up in the faces of those making the bomb, including Ayers' then girlfriend).

How soon before the unhinged start screeching that Palin's FSIL's family are a bunch of Neocon Jews and that her choice was determined by little men in Tel Aviv?

132 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:11:49am

re: #71 joncelli

Obama's people and the MSM -- but I repeat myself -- have managed to find something to define Palin. She has to come out of the gate with a real barn-burner of a speech and then campaign like hell in order to redefine herself. I'm afraid there isn't going to be much of a convention bounce for the GOP, and McCain is falling further behind (51 to 43 according to Rasmussen, the most dependable poll).

Only one poll counts with this group and it's in November. Nice try though.

133 TalkinKamel  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:11:53am

And, at this point, it looks as if Pat is more of an Obama supporter than he is for McCain, and Palin:

134 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:12:16am

Rush is playing the "punished with a baby clip"!

135 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:12:32am

re: #123 Typicalwhitey

Rush is LIVID!

Thanks. Just tuned him in. And, yes, he is majorly peeved. I seriously hope he rips the left a new one over this.

136 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:12:46am
137 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:13:23am

The Ottoman Turks solved the problem of getting honest government workers without embarrasing family connections by kidnapping Christian children and castrating them.

138 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:13:32am

Something that doesn't exist got 1,960 comments!

139 TalkinKamel  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:13:35am

re: #110 Ben Hur

OT---I am sorry to hear that, Ben.

140 CanadianBacon  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:13:37am

Alas, poor Arcxix, we knew you well...

And good riddance to bad rubbish. In other news, Marxos has decided in the interests of consistency to deleted everything else ever posted on Kos.

141 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:13:52am

re: #136 taxfreekiller

that's actually very funny!

142 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:14:09am

re: #130 Dianna

Yes, but did Ann Dunham know that?

Probably not. But if they're going after Bristol to get to Palin. It's just fair to point out the circumstances of their candidates conception and birth. Not making any moral judgments, just, "fine Bristol made a mistake, what about Ann?"

143 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:14:12am
144 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:14:19am

re: #99 SpringheelJack

Meanwhile, they ignored Gov Jindel's news conference on measures being taken to deal with Gustav, in favor of bores in windbreakers

I was buying lunch meat at the deli counter yesterday, and the topic of Gustav vs. Katrina came up. One of the workers mentioned Jindal's speech (she didn't know his name), saying "He really knows what he's doing there. They've learned their lesson from last time." I expect Jindal made a positive impression on a lot of people who are only vaguely aware of politics.

145 TalkinKamel  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:14:41am

re: #131 MandyManners

I'm afraid the unhinged are working on something along those lines, even as we speak. . .

146 joncelli  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:14:45am

re: #132 Noam Chumpski

Heh? I'm just trying to alert people to the situation. I've been here long enough and posted often enough that people should know I'm not a moby.

147 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:15:01am

re: #122 Silhouette

What about the fact they got the photos from Free Republic?

148 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:15:12am

Why is Joe Scarbourough so surprised that someone would call Pukanan a Nazi sympathizer.

He is.

149 maddogg  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:15:38am

The Kos Kids are afraid of this woman, bigtime.

150 J.S.  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:15:56am

re: #116 big steve

I also wonder about the International "news" reporting -- the "reporting" that is done here in Canada -- last night on the evening "news" with this report about Bristol, etc, it definitely struck me as being libelous (it stank big time)...but the "reporter" who filed the "report" has been sued for slander in the past (it's the Canadian tax payers who pick up the tab, btw...and I've also heard that when Canadians try to uncover just how much this libelous shit-bag of a "reporter" has cost the Canadian taxpayer, it's covered up -- the Corporation, the CBC, doesn't tell us. What a corrupt organization. The sooner the CBC is privatized, the better.)

151 kynna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:16:03am

re: #123 Typicalwhitey

Rush is LIVID!

Thanks for mentioning. I forgot to turn him on. I knew he'd be amazing today.

152 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:16:24am

re: #110 Ben Hur

'King Of Voiceovers' Don LaFontaine Dies

This sux.

Yep, too bad. And only 68 years old.

LaFontaine's agent confirms to Entertainment Tonight that he passed away from Pneumothorax, the presence of air or gas in the pleural cavity which house the lungs. The official cause of death has not been released.

June was telling me recently that lots of people still die these days pneumonia and pneumothorax. It should always be taken seriously.

153 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:16:52am

re: #149 maddogg

The Kos Kids are afraid of this woman, bigtime.

She stands for so much that they are against.

154 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:17:07am

re: #146 joncelli

Heh? I'm just trying to alert people to the situation. I've been here long enough and posted often enough that people should know I'm not a moby.

Apologies. Wasn't intending to harass you. :) Just not a fan of polls - they're rarely accurate.

155 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:17:21am

The point to make is we will never hear of young daughters of the Dems getting pregnant, cause they would be to an abortion clinic faster than the bats of Pelosi's eyes.

156 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:17:44am

re: #148 Ben Hur

Why is Joe Scarbourough so surprised that someone would call Pukanan a Nazi sympathizer.

He is.

Because, like most liberal media hacks, Joe Scarborough figured Pat Buchanan was a mainstream Republican, and Fred Phelps is a regular Christian conservative.

157 Racer X  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:17:47am

re: #108 Killian Bundy

And they list the miscreants and their alleged crimes, many not even from Minnesota.

/and counting . . .

Thats a keeper.

Commander Rove will be interested.

158 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:17:58am

re: #142 jcm

Well, Ann's dead, which means she can't respond.

It's a point, but it's not one I'd use, much.

159 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:18:17am

re: #143 Fat Jolly Penguin

DUmmies holding a Sarah Palin nickname contest.

Stay classy, DUmmies.

160 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:18:22am

re: #151 kynna

Thanks for mentioning. I forgot to turn him on. I knew he'd be amazing today.


I have rarely seen him as angry as he is today!

161 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:18:40am

KOS is covering his ass, trying to protect himself from a libel suit over these spurious allegations. What KOS does not know is that some enterprising Lizard waded into the swamp and took an entire collection of screen shots. Sorry KOS, way too little, way too late. How do you say Goose ------------> Cooked

162 joncelli  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:18:59am

re: #154 Noam Chumpski

Yeah, they should be taken with a handful of salt at all times. That said, reasonably accurate polls like Rasmussen should at least be paid attention to. And thanks for the apology. ;-)

163 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:19:00am
That diary isn’t the only one deleted; everything posted by “arcxix” has disappeared: Daily Kos :: Diaries :: arcxix.

What's the odds that arcxix is a Markos sock puppet?

164 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:19:29am

re: #79 jcm

Dirt on a 17 year old in Alaska, drinking beer behind the gym, shooting at the neighbors no trespassing sign, speeding on a snowmobile! Incorrigible!

the audacity of blind faith.

So now a 16 year old's my space page is more important that an presidential candidates ties to a home grown terrorist.

165 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:19:29am

re: #157 Racer X

Thats a keeper.

Commander Rove will be interested.

And if those felonies go through to conviction that means "no vote for you!"

I love that they voluntarily take themselves out of the election process.

166 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:19:42am
167 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:19:57am

What was Barry on when he was 17?

168 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:19:59am

re: #150 J.S.

This is also why the MSM is very careful in this case to report on the "rumors" as apposed to the substance of the rumor. That way they can claim it was clear they were not reporting something as fact.

And by the way, I will wager a billion dollars that Markos has been in touch with his attorney over the weekend regarding this.

169 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:19:59am

In the Hot Air headlines section, there's a DU post which I recommend to everyone. It's amazing.

170 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:20:10am

re: #143 Fat Jolly Penguin

DUmmies holding a Sarah Palin nickname contest.

I don't know, but Madam Vice President works for me! Just saying.

171 politicalinsomniac  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:20:11am

I love how the Moonbats are so eager to accept dirt on Republicans at face value (Sarah Palin is not the mother!) but distrust all inquiries into, say, Obama's shady political alliances...

172 BackwardsBoy  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:20:11am

Brace yourself, Effie. While going through my morning ritual of visiting other conservative sites, I noticed a lot of lefty trolls whom I didn't recognize in the comments, even Ace noticed this, and Michelle Malkin notes that the MoveOnMorons have a $5K reward out for any dirt that can be dug up against Sarah Palin's family. I see a concerted effort to smear this fine woman from the leftist moonbats, be on guard. I mean, we all knew this was coming, but it still disgusts me. I can only hope that there are some lawyers for the GOP that will start suing for defamation when there is evidence that the smears aren't true. These idiots must be stopped and draggin' their dumb asses into court should only be the start. I also hope that the smears can be somehow traced back to the Vapid One so we can all see just how the Chicago political machine will work on a nationwide level. Conservative action alert anyone?

173 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:20:28am

re: #147 Dianna

What about the fact they got the photos from Free Republic?

Figures.

It is the sheer gaul. Not only do they not shame Kos for spreading the rumor, the congratulate them on debunking it.

I'd be livid but it is so typical. Like the Dems claiming credit for helping Iraqis.

174 kynna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:20:51am

re: #149 maddogg

The Kos Kids are afraid of this woman, bigtime.

They were afraid of Hillary! too. Maybe they're afraid of all women. Thing is, they need to see what happens when you poke a stick at a baby bear. Mama bears gets meeeeeeeean.

175 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:21:14am

re: #145 TalkinKamel

I'm afraid the unhinged are working on something along those lines, even as we speak. . .

I'd be disappointed if they weren't.

176 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:21:14am

re: #155 Beach Lover

The point to make is we will never hear of young daughters of the Dems getting pregnant, cause they would be to an abortion clinic faster than the bats of Pelosi's eyes.

You know I was going to go down the attractiveness road of Dem daughters versus Rep Daughters but you know what, just don't want be like them so I won't.

177 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:21:27am

Silky Pony's baby mama was off limits.

178 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:21:31am

re: #156 Kenneth

Because, like most liberal media hacks, Joe Scarborough figured Pat Buchanan was a mainstream Republican, and Fred Phelps is a regular Christian conservative.

Scarborough was a GOP House member from Florida, and I think he's nuts to take up for Buchanan.

179 canadianconservative  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:21:34am

re: #112 joncelli

I'm looking at the House as a complete wildcard now. I want to see how the drilling issue plays out, and whether the GOP can ride on McCain/Palin's anti corruption and pro-drilling coattails. With approval at 9% by some estimates, I'm of the view that anything can happen, ranging from the conventional view that the generic ballot will guatantee that the GOP loses an additional 7-9 seats, to the unrealistic, but remotely possible at this point, that the GOP could either narrow the Gap, or even send San Fran Nan back to Minority leader status...

180 vagabond trader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:21:48am

Since the Obama was proud to give a blood sample for a publicity stunt AIDS test, why not do the same by agreeing to a drug screen? I sure as hell want to know if an admitted coke user who wants the job of POTUS remains drug free.

181 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:22:00am

re: #161 galloping granny

And he can't get away from it, because the diaries are moderated.

I wonder what the hell Kos is thinking, sometimes, given what gets put up there in the diaries. The comments section I understand, but the diaries?

182 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:22:10am

re: #162 joncelli

Yeah, they should be taken with a handful of salt at all times. That said, reasonably accurate polls like Rasmussen should at least be paid attention to. And thanks for the apology. ;-)

Yeah, I'm nothing if not apologetic. heh... I'll go further and admit that Rasmussen does a decent job.

Though sometimes the lead is within the margin of error. :)

183 armytramp  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:22:22am

Ho ho.

Now Obama is saying he has more experience than Palin.

The only thing Obama has more experience with than Palin is direct personal experience with the plight of the unwed teen mother.

That being the case, he should have moved a lot more quickly to shut down those ugly rumors about Palin.

But he sure waiting a long time to do it. Sure did.

184 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:22:28am

re: #164 FrogMarch

the audacity of blind faith.

So now a 16 year old's my space page is more important that an presidential candidates ties to a home grown terrorist.

I really don't know what is on my 2 daughter's facebook pages. They are both now in College and well behaved good students. I am sure my wife might know. I have to start trusting them sometime.

185 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:22:39am

re: #163 Honorary Yooper

Non-existent. Seriously.

186 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:22:41am

Right. And thank G-d she's not smoking cigarettes....

187 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:22:51am

re: #169 Dianna

In the Hot Air headlines section, there's a DU post which I recommend to everyone. It's amazing.

There's a hilarious comment on that link:

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6. Oh Pleez

This place is chaos. It always has been. People post shit, think better of it, sometimes retract it, sometimes don't. It's a lunatic asylum where, every so often, something useful and good floats to the top of a sea of nonsense.

188 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:23:16am

re: #173 Silhouette

It is the sheer gaul.

You mean him?

189 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:23:18am

re: #158 Dianna

Well, Ann's dead, which means she can't respond.

It's a point, but it's not one I'd use, much.

If folks would stay on issues, I wouldn't. Because frankly I don't give a fig. What matters about Ann is she is the first of a long line of influential progressive radical Marxists in Obama's life.

But if someone brings up Bristol against Gov. Palin, I will smack 'em with the chronology of Obama birth and the parents marital circumstances.

I refuse to play their game, let them determine the ground we fight on. Defending, excusing or explaining Bristol we let them determine the ground.

190 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:23:50am

re: #181 Dianna

And he can't get away from it, because the diaries are moderated.

I wonder what the hell Kos is thinking, sometimes, given what gets put up there in the diaries. The comments section I understand, but the diaries?

I wonder how much he really monitors things, and how much he leaves up to others while he's schmoozing with the Dems and the MSM. It just looks like the lunatics run the asylum.

191 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:24:03am

Rush on it.

192 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:24:13am

re: #178 Ward Cleaver

Scarborough was a GOP House member from Florida, and I think he's nuts to take up for Buchanan.

Maybe he needs him as an Allie against Mathews and Olberman? Might just be news room politics?

193 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:24:14am

re: #164 FrogMarch

the audacity of blind faith.

So now a 16 year old's my space page is more important than a presidential candidates ties to a home grown terrorist.


fixed.

194 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:24:35am

re: #180 vagabond trader

Since the Obama was proud to give a blood sample for a publicity stunt AIDS test, why not do the same by agreeing to a drug screen? I sure as hell want to know if an admitted coke user who wants the job of POTUS remains drug free.

The Rove is strong with this one.

I like the way you think!

195 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:24:37am

re: #183 armytramp

Ho ho.

Now Obama is saying he has more experience than Palin.

The only thing Obama has more experience with than Palin is direct personal experience with the plight of the unwed teen mother.

That being the case, he should have moved a lot more quickly to shut down those ugly rumors about Palin.


But he sure waiting a long time to do it. Sure did.


And did you see he is saying this because his campaign has more budget and people working for it than the town in Alaska Palin was mayor of.....conveniently forgetting the size of the budget and number of state employees of the state of Alaska itself.

196 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:24:42am

He sold COKE?

I thought he just took it.

WOW.

Poisoning children.

197 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:24:53am

re: #143 Fat Jolly Penguin

DUmmies holding a Sarah Palin nickname contest.

She's got one.......
Barracuda!

198 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:24:58am

re: #180 vagabond trader

Since the Obama was proud to give a blood sample for a publicity stunt AIDS test, why not do the same by agreeing to a drug screen? I sure as hell want to know if an admitted coke user who wants the job of POTUS remains drug free.

That's about on the level of Dems who insist GWB is still drinking and using coke.

199 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:25:01am

re: #172 BackwardsBoy

MoveOnMorons have a $5K reward out for any dirt that can be dug up against Sarah Palin's family.

As always, the hate comes first, and they'll find something to be outraged about.

200 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:25:34am

re: #172 BackwardsBoy

Brace yourself, Effie. While going through my morning ritual of visiting other conservative sites, I noticed a lot of lefty trolls whom I didn't recognize in the comments, even Ace noticed this, and Michelle Malkin notes that the MoveOnMorons have a $5K reward out for any dirt that can be dug up against Sarah Palin's family. I see a concerted effort to smear this fine woman from the leftist moonbats, be on guard. I mean, we all knew this was coming, but it still disgusts me. I can only hope that there are some lawyers for the GOP that will start suing for defamation when there is evidence that the smears aren't true. These idiots must be stopped and draggin' their dumb asses into court should only be the start. I also hope that the smears can be somehow traced back to the Vapid One so we can all see just how the Chicago political machine will work on a nationwide level. Conservative action alert anyone?

Soros is directly behind this.

201 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:26:06am

re: #194 Occasional Reader

The Rove is strong with this one.

LOL....

202 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:26:10am

re: #177 Ben Hur

Silky Pony's baby mama was off limits.

Yep. When holy and precious democrats slip up - they quietly go away.
Nice soft landing for the pony.

What ever happened to Spitzer? We don' t hear mention of him anymore either.

203 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:26:40am

re: #196 Ben Hur

He sold COKE?

I thought he just took it.

WOW.

Poisoning children.

Obama sold coke? link?

204 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:27:06am

re: #183 armytramp

Ho ho.

Now Obama is saying he has more experience than Palin.

The only thing Obama has more experience with than Palin is direct personal experience with the plight of the unwed teen mother.

That being the case, he should have moved a lot more quickly to shut down those ugly rumors about Palin.

But he sure waiting a long time to do it. Sure did.

Why is he comparing himself with her? Biden is her counter-part.

205 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:27:15am

re: #172 BackwardsBoy

the MoveOnMorons have a $5K reward out for any dirt that can be dug up against Sarah Palin's family.

is there a direct link on this?

206 J.S.  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:27:29am

re: #168 big steve

I'm not a lawyer (although I've read about libel laws -- editors, etc., need to know the basics..), and I don't think that claims that "Why, I'm just reporting a rumor! a rumor, I tell you!" will save you from a libel suit (the laws in Canada are also different here -- it's much easier to win a libel suit in Canada than in the U.S.) (otherwise one could imagine that I could go around and state: "Individual X is a unrepentant criminal, he's committed untold number of crimes, according to the local rumors..." -- that should never make it into a MSM piece without thoughts about lawsuits, malicious slander, etc.

207 joncelli  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:27:40am

re: #182 Noam Chumpski

True enough, and it depends on who's leaning which way, and whether they're registered voters as opposed to likely voters...it's a hash sometimes. That's why I try to stay focussed and not put TOO much credence in polls.

208 vagabond trader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:27:55am

re: #194 Occasional Reader

Thanks. I have been referred to as a magnificent b^tch. bwhhahahahahahahaha!

209 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:28:03am

re: #203 FrogMarch

Obama sold coke? link?


I thought Rush just said that.

210 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:28:18am

re: #189 jcm

I'm just going to say, "What does Bristol have to do with any issue? Nothing. So. What about drilling?"

211 SouthAmericanWay  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:28:54am

The left is playing a very wise game in this election: their candidate speaks about decency, while his surrogates in the press and on the web trash conservatives with no shame.

We MUST answer fire with fire. Let us not be on the defensive, but let us post and publish our attacks: from Biden's plagiarism, his real estate, his family's corrupt links, and Congressional earmarks to Obama's links with the Chicago political mafia and Marxist-terrorist underground.

All we already know, as well as all that may be unearthed, has to be repeated over and over again: THEY must be on the defensive.

212 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:29:04am

re: #206 J.S.

I'm not a lawyer (although I've read about libel laws -- editors, etc., need to know the basics..), and I don't think that claims that "Why, I'm just reporting a rumor! a rumor, I tell you!" will save you from a libel suit (the laws in Canada are also different here -- it's much easier to win a libel suit in Canada than in the U.S.) (otherwise one could imagine that I could go around and state: "Individual X is a unrepentant criminal, he's committed untold number of crimes, according to the local rumors..." -- that should never make it into a MSM piece without thoughts about lawsuits, malicious slander, etc.


winning a slander or libel lawsuit in the US has only occured about 5% of the time, or so I am being told at this very minute. It is extremely hard to prove.

213 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:29:06am

re: #204 MandyManners

Why is he comparing himself with her? Biden is her counter-part.


Just one of the many curious things about the last few days!

214 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:29:15am

re: #209 Ben Hur

I thought Rush just said that.

If he did, I sure hope he can back that up. It's a hell of an allegation.

IIRC a Hillary staffer dropped the "maybe Obama sold coke" line, and was fired for it.

215 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:29:34am

Rush...

Sarah, a non-domesticated women, just what the liberals say a women should be.... but they hate her.

216 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:29:36am

It's funny reading the comments at the left/liberal fever swamps. The things that get them hating Sarah Palin, are the same things I love about her.

Including this picture of the next Vice-President of the United States.

What's not to like?

217 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:29:48am

re: #189 jcm

If folks would stay on issues, I wouldn't. Because frankly I don't give a fig. What matters about Ann is she is the first of a long line of influential progressive radical Marxists in Obama's life.
But if someone brings up Bristol against Gov. Palin, I will smack 'em with the chronology of Obama birth and the parents marital circumstances.

I refuse to play their game, let them determine the ground we fight on. Defending, excusing or explaining Bristol we let them determine the ground.

I wonder if his immersion in Marxism and friends with Marxists was an unconscious attempt to get his mother to pay attention to him.

218 vagabond trader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:29:59am

re: #198 doppelganglander

Not really, I would ask politely.

219 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:30:14am

re: #214 Occasional Reader

If he did, I sure hope he can back that up. It's a hell of an allegation.

IIRC a Hillary staffer dropped the "maybe Obama sold coke" line, and was fired for it.

I hadn't heard it before.

He does write about it in his book - that he used to use.

I may of mis-heard him.

220 kynna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:30:40am

Rush is great today! I was trying to take down a few choice quotes but the came at me so fast I just had to stop and listen. LOL.

221 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:30:43am

re: #185 Dianna

Non-existent. Seriously.

Thought I'd ask anyway. I know there are those who do use sock puppets on their own blogs (Glen Greenwald comes to mind).

222 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:30:55am

OT - yahoo. headline watch

New Orleans mayor: Please don't come home
Bush to address convention tonight via satellite
Thai prime minister declares emergency in capital
Hanna lashes Bahamas, threatens US East Coast
Stocks jump as oil tumbles on relief over Gustav
Study says smoking may hurt women more than men

Compare to Tuesday of the Dem convention, all six headlines

Former Gov. Warner: Party must seize opportunity
Dems rip into McCain at Obama's convention (AP)
Edgy Democrats await Clinton's convention speech (AP)
AT&T has high profile presence at Dem convention (AP)
Obama camp mulls shortened roll call (Politico)
A convention comeuppance for Bill Clinton (AP)

My comment on Tuesday of last week was "I can't wait to see the headlines during the GOP convention." I was guessing it would be half-Mccain, and half-Obama. Boy was I wrong.

Is McCain mentioned once?!

223 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:31:13am

re: #204 MandyManners

Why is he comparing himself with her? Biden is her counter-part.


Rovian isn't it......because Obama has been all about style over substance and now he has someone out style pointing him. As mentioned, Rove said this six month's ago, it is really easy to knock this guy off message.

224 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:31:41am

So the KosKidz are doing the Bristol Stomp, eh.

Very classy.

225 maddogg  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:31:47am

Big story now, doesn't mean spit in 2 weeks. If this is the best they can do, they are up to their necks in their own dung. Leftys are notoriously low an character, and Mrs. Palin will rub their noses in their own poop before this is over. This is an opportunity for her. She had to know this would be coming, yet she did not choose to hide from the storm. She must have been confident she could prevail. We will see.

226 cblesz  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:31:56am

It is time for the McCain camp or the RNC to bring back Obama's greatest hits: Rev Wright, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, etc. REMIND the general public about this guy.

227 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:32:04am

re: #213 scottishbuzzsaw

Just one of the many curious things about the last few days!

Poor bastards couldn't find their asses with a GPS.

228 armytramp  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:32:30am

re: #195 big steve

And did you see he is saying this because his campaign has more budget and people working for it than the town in Alaska Palin was mayor of.....conveniently forgetting the size of the budget and number of state employees of the state of Alaska itself.


OK fair is fair.

All I can recall is that he hangs with a terrorist from the Weather Underground.

Selective memory's a bitch.

If he can forget Palin is a governor, I can forget he's barely spent any time in the Senate.

229 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:32:45am

re: #204 MandyManners

Why is he comparing himself with her? Biden is her counter-part.

Obama always shows what he's thinking or is afraid of and does it accidentally (it's almost subconscious).

It's like when Bush (in a speech) inferred that there are people whose love of country isn't very strong and Obama comes out immediately and says, "I'm offended by that!"

It's like - we weren't talking about you, but now that you mention it...

Same thing here: He comes out and is all, "I'm more ready than Palin!" Well... you should be as you are the Democrat Pres Candidate, but now that you mention it, let me have a look.

His instincts are worse than an opossum talking a nightly walk in the road.

230 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:32:51am

If I were Sarah Palin, I'd come out swinging when she gives her convention speech. From all appearances she has a very happy family. We ALL have some family problems. It is how you deal with it that counts. And she and her husband has dealt with all the various issues, including her eldest son going off to war, while holding down the State of Alaska. Put that in your pipe liberal hypocrites.

231 vagabond trader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:33:23am

Connecticut delegation physically attacked after being dropped off at the convention. Nice

232 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:33:27am

re: #217 MandyManners

I wonder if his immersion in Marxism and friends with Marxists was an unconscious attempt to get his mother to pay attention to him.

Or his dad, he met his dad once, but wrote his first book about him.

233 cblesz  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:06am

Someone gimme color on Rush today...at work and cannot listen

234 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:07am

re: #223 big steve

Rovian isn't it......because Obama has been all about style over substance and now he has someone out style pointing him. As mentioned, Rove said this six month's ago, it is really easy to knock this guy off message.

Palin not only out-styles BHO. She out-substances him. (I know. It's not a word.)

235 kynna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:09am

re: #219 Ben Hur

I hadn't heard it before.

He does write about it in his book - that he used to use.

I may of mis-heard him.

I think you misheard him. He was 'reporting a rumor' as they say.

Feels good, don't it, Obambi?

But he read straight from Obama's book about his rampant drug/alcohol abuse and that, compared with Bristol Palin's incredible sin(/sarc), is pretty damning.

236 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:09am

re: #230 Nevergiveup

I'd come out swinging when she gives her convention speech. From all appearances she has a very happy family.

COUNT ON HER getting a standing ovation when she says just that.

237 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:13am

Rush is on it. Rarely listen to him but this is interesting.

Asked on the dead thread if anyone knew what the AP was refering to in the hit piece about the convention getting into Pallin seeing a lawyer?
Please forgive my reposting.

What is this about?
Twice in an AP snark piece about the RNC convention they mentioned "Revelations that the surprise female running mate had retained an attorney to deal with a scandal."
GOP convention script goes straight to re-write. Note the URL title is the even snarkier "measure of a nation ad libbing it." Time for AP to fire people, again?

238 armytramp  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:19am

Check this out at Publishers Weekly:

John McCain surprised most when he chose Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska to be his running mate—and the only book available on Palin is, unsurprisingly, from an equally dark horse publisher: Epicenter Press, which has its primary office in Kenmore, Wash., and publishes books about Alaska and the Pacific Northwest. Epicenter published Sarah: How a Hockey Mom Turned Alaska's Political Establishment Upside Down by Kaylene Johnson in April as a $19.95 hardcover featuring 50 photographs.

Publisher Kent Sturgis said the book had been doing well before the announcement; Epicenter went through its 7,000-copy first printing in less than a month, and then reprinted 3,000 more copies, which were all shipped by early Friday. "I walked in the door [Friday] morning and the first call was from Barnes & Noble; they wanted 15,000 copies," Sturgis said. "I’ve got an e-mail queue here that’s longer than I can see."

More at link.

239 Pyrocles  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:39am

NPR's news this morning concentrated solely on the hurricane and the protesters at the GOP convention. I don't remember them talking much about the protesters at the DNC convention last week; they were barely mentioned.

Of course, the GOP convention was shortened because of the hurricane...maybe I'm seeing bias where it doesn't exist? Phhht, it's NPR.

re: #222 Silhouette

OT - yahoo. headline watch


My comment on Tuesday of last week was "I can't wait to see the headlines during the GOP convention." I was guessing it would be half-Mccain, and half-Obama. Boy was I wrong.

Is McCain mentioned once?!

240 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:47am

Another diary down the memory hole:

McCain/Vagina08

241 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:59am

I don't understand how Bristol's situation is a political downer for Palin.

Doesn't it prove that she isn't a hypocrite, but practices what she preaches in being pro-life, even in the face of the main two abortion causes: a child with a medical problem and a young, unwed mother?

How many times have we heard them say, "Sure, easy for you to say. But what if you were in our dilemma?"

242 Iron Fist  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:35:25am

re: #85 Occasional Reader

Wonder what they think of motorcycles? They probably like those little scooters. What're they called? Vespas?

That's a very liberal mode of transportation. Now if they were only electric and could go about 25 MPH.

243 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:35:50am

One thing that has made me laugh is how the left, the MSM, and some blogs are all haughtily saying that Sarah Palin wasn't vetted and they are doing the vetting now and oh what an idiot McCain is he didn't vet her.

Yet....she was Rove's choice and he worked this. The same groups think that Karl is evil incarnate and the world's master chessman.

Does anyone out there not think that Karl Rove is about five steps ahead on this. I will bet that her convention speech was written three weeks ago.

244 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:35:55am

re: #219 Ben Hur

I hadn't heard it before.

He does write about it in his book - that he used to use.

I may of mis-heard him.

Anyway, this is all just smokescreen to distract us from Alaska's embarassing crackhead deficit.

245 MacDuff  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:36:12am

Deletion: The last refuge of a scoundrel

246 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:36:13am

re: #241 Silhouette

I don't understand how Bristol's situation is a political downer for Palin.

Doesn't it prove that she isn't a hypocrite, but practices what she preaches in being pro-life, even in the face of the main two abortion causes: a child with a medical problem and a young, unwed mother?

How many times have we heard them say, "Sure, easy for you to say. But what if you were in our dilemma?"

Exactly!

247 colin nelson  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:36:17am

#150 JS. If a libel and/or slander charge cannot be filed against that offensive (and now vanished) post, then why bother to have these remedies in the first place.

BTW, can you tell me (us) the name of the intrepid CBC 'reporter' who did the story? Taking the hint from Big Steve, it should be quite easy to prove that the reporter 'knew' the "Sarah is the mother" story was bogus by the time he(she) went to air with it.

248 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:36:27am
249 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:36:34am

re: #229 Noam Chumpski

Obama always shows what he's thinking or is afraid of and does it accidentally (it's almost subconscious).

It's like when Bush (in a speech) inferred that there are people whose love of country isn't very strong and Obama comes out immediately and says, "I'm offended by that!"

It's like - we weren't talking about you, but now that you mention it...

Same thing here: He comes out and is all, "I'm more ready than Palin!" Well... you should be as you are the Democrat Pres Candidate, but now that you mention it, let me have a look.

His instincts are worse than an opossum talking a nightly walk in the road.

What was it Dennis Miller saying about the color of skin not being as important as the thinness of BHO's skin?

250 irish rose  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:36:52am

re: #190 Ward Cleaver

I wonder how much he really monitors things, and how much he leaves up to others while he's schmoozing with the Dems and the MSM. It just looks like the lunatics run the asylum.

Exactly.
And this time it's going to cost him, big time.

He can't bury that shit fast enough.

251 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:37:33am

re: #232 jcm

Or his dad, he met his dad once, but wrote his first book about him.

I hadn't thought about that angle!

252 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:37:43am

I would be surprised if Palin would even mention one word about this.

253 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:38:15am

re: #242 Iron Fist

Wonder what they think of motorcycles? They probably like those little scooters. What're they called? Vespas?

That's a very liberal mode of transportation. Now if they were only electric and could go about 25 MPH.

There's a scooter "gang" that hangs around the UW in Seattle, this mob on scooters in goth dress. They try to pull off a "tough" attitude.... it doesn't work.

254 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:38:53am

re: #184 Nevergiveup

I really don't know what is on my 2 daughter's facebook pages. They are both now in College and well behaved good students. I am sure my wife might know. I have to start trusting them sometime.

Ask them to help you create your own. They will invariably link you as a friend. My daughters did and I have lots of fun with them. The response from their less circumspect friends is priceless when they realize I'm part of their friends group!

255 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:39:01am

re: #249 MandyManners

What was it Dennis Miller saying about the color of skin not being as important as the thinness of BHO's skin?

Miller's great...

256 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:39:33am

So at age 17 what was Obama doing with his life? Drinking, skipping school, taking drugs, hanging out. Hypocrite your name is Osama.

257 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:40:10am

re: #211 SouthAmericanWay

The left is playing a very wise game in this election: their candidate speaks about decency, while his surrogates in the press and on the web trash conservatives with no shame.

We MUST answer fire with fire. Let us not be on the defensive, but let us post and publish our attacks: from Biden's plagiarism, his real estate, his family's corrupt links, and Congressional earmarks to Obama's links with the Chicago political mafia and Marxist-terrorist underground.

All we already know, as well as all that may be unearthed, has to be repeated over and over again: THEY must be on the defensive.

The new Batman movie "The Dark Knight".
Great movie.
Same philosophical message as this.
Speaking for myself, I'm not ready to "publish any attacks".
On a public, published message, it's too easy to come off like a Kossack.
Posting, yes. Lizards will let me (or anybody) know when I went over the top. Publicly (independently) doing that would result in the fatal two words: "Too Late".

A man has to know his limits.

258 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:40:11am

re: #248 buzzsawmonkey
Great insight, as usual...

259 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:40:23am

re: #253 jcm

There's a scooter "gang" that hangs around the UW in Seattle, this mob on scooters in goth dress. They try to pull off a "tough" attitude

I'd be worried that if I happened on this "gang", I might get hurt.

You know... a hernia from laughing, that sort of thing.

260 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:40:28am

re: #254 DaddyG

Ask them to help you create your own. They will invariably link you as a friend. My daughters did and I have lots of fun with them. The response from their less circumspect friends is priceless when they realize I'm part of their friends group!

You know that's really positive and clever parenting. Instead of being invasive and overbearing, you're now in the loop. Good thinking.

261 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:40:42am

re: #247 colin nelson


I watched NBC over the weekend, the were extremely careful in saying that this was an internet story and even flashed the KOS homepage. I am telling you everyone is lawyering up of this big time. The lawyers down the hall are all claiming they are working on a case, but there are some insider law blogs around and I'll see if I can find out what the jungle tom tom's are saying.

262 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:41:28am

OT

I watched part of NBC's coverage of Gustav from NOLA last night.
The entire part I watched was about the failures of Katrina, with continual references to the ongoing RNCC.

Nope, no media bias detected.
/

263 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:41:37am

re: #248 buzzsawmonkey

Because in a very real way it is a fight between the narratives of Obama and Palin.

Obama is the Disadvantaged Black Kid Who Made Good, going to elite schools and becoming the first serious black contender for the highest office in the land.

Palin is the "log cabin" candidate; the person of relatively ordinary background who grew up in the closest thing we still have to a wilderness, made good, and did so without the assistance of the elite school power structure and network.

Both are relatively new to politics, compared to old warhorses McCain and Biden. So the question is, will America embrace the "log cabin" narrative, or the affirmative-action elite-anointment narrative?

There are a lot more people, probably--black or white--who identify with the "log cabin" narrative. That is what scares the Obama campaign, and the media that support him, since both belong to the elite-anointment narrative.

And that is why this campaign will stay ugly.

Brilliant analysis. (Fess up. You're really Carl Rove.)

264 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:41:40am

Best quote from Rush so far...McCain campaign told Sarah they would be coming at her from all directions and said "are you ready for this?"

she replied..."Do you know the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull?
lipstick!"

love her!

265 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:41:49am

re: #248 buzzsawmonkey

Driving home from dropping my eldest daughter at school yesterday, my wife asked me what I thought the reaction would be to Bristol Palin's pregnancy. And since I was kinda out of contact, you can file me under last to know! I think the Democrat Elite better be real careful. Most voters are ordinary Americans like you and me and live in fly over country. They have families just like Sarah Palin. They get it and understand. They are much more likely to have an unwed pregnant daughter than a house partially financed by a Chicago racketeer.

266 phoenixgirl  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:42:05am

re: #187 Fat Jolly Penguin

This place is chaos. It always has been. People post do shit, think better of it, sometimes retract it, sometimes don't. It's a lunatic asylum where, every so often, something useful and good floats to the top of a sea of nonsense.

sounds like my home

267 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:42:06am

WOW!

Snip:

This episode enrages the conscience of decent men and women. In a more robust time and place, the father of Baby Trig would have waited on Mr. Kos with a horsewhip, to teach him that the public humiliation of innocent young women is not tolerated by decent men.

HAHAHAHAHAAA!

268 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:42:15am

re: #239 Pyrocles

Of course, the GOP convention was shortened because of the hurricane...maybe I'm seeing bias where it doesn't exist? Phhht, it's NPR.

If the top six headlines were all Gustav and Hanna...


But they've had "top" stories like "Smoking hurts women worse than men", "Drug names that sound alike can cause problems," and "Older fathers linked to bipolarism."

269 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:42:40am

re: #252 Perplexed

I would be surprised if Palin would even mention one word about this.

Why not? She doesn't seem to be one to shrink from uncomfortable situations.

270 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:42:46am

re: #253 jcm

There's a scooter "gang" that hangs around the UW in Seattle, this mob on scooters in goth dress. They try to pull off a "tough" attitude.... it doesn't work.

Photographic evidence required.
please, please, please.

:)

271 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:43:17am

re: #254 DaddyG

Ask them to help you create your own. They will invariably link you as a friend. My daughters did and I have lots of fun with them. The response from their less circumspect friends is priceless when they realize I'm part of their friends group!

We did just discuss that yesterday actually. Thanks, it's a good idea.

272 JimmyTheClaw  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:43:43am

orielly just ripped the daily kos they are so hateful they are now irrelevant no politician will go near their poison

273 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:43:55am

re: #264 Beach Lover


she replied..."Do you know the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull?
lipstick!"

That's it, I am shutting it down and voting for her forever.... might even move to Alaska if she loses here.

274 irish rose  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:44:23am

Wow, Rush is really giving em hell today.
Drop whatever you're doing and go listen.

275 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:45:04am

He is seriously pissed off!

276 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:45:22am

re: #269 MandyManners

Why not? She doesn't seem to be one to shrink from uncomfortable situations.

And anyway, what's so uncomfortable about LIFE?

277 irish rose  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:45:31am

re: #264 Beach Lover

Best quote from Rush so far...McCain campaign told Sarah they would be coming at her from all directions and said "are you ready for this?"

she replied..."Do you know the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull?
lipstick!"

love her!


Way to go, Sarah!
Give 'em hell.

278 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:45:33am

re: #274 irish rose

Wow, Rush is really giving em hell today.
Drop whatever you're doing and go listen.

Doing so, and lovin' it. :-)

279 maddogg  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:45:43am

There is an obvious difference between McCain and Obama. McCain chose Palin in spite of her family issues, Obama chose Biden because he is a coward.

280 godfrey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:45:55am

re: #24 Beach Lover

lol

Good piece by David Kahane, there. This paragraph is a beaut:

Because we need to take back our country. We need to take it back from fascists like George Washington and Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, and give it back to its rightful proprietors, patriots like Henry Wallace, Sidney Hillman, Norman Thomas, Gus Hall, Karl Marx, Leon Trotsky, Joseph Stalin, Saul Alinsky, William Kunstler, Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, David Dellinger, Tom Hayden, Bobby Seale, and, yes, my guy, the Talking Parrot, you know who.

Encore!

281 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:46:04am
282 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:46:06am

re: #265 Nevergiveup

Obama gave his marching orders (use it and get fired) to his staff too late for my tastes, but he HAS to realize that both his little daughters are potentially liable to this EXACT situation.

ANYTHING he says will be stored for future use; as a young man in political years, he should heed that well.

283 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:46:08am
284 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:46:28am

Of course, Obama is also comparing his experience to Palin's because he sure as hell can't talk experience in comparison to McCain.

285 godfrey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:46:46am

re: #248 buzzsawmonkey

Nailed it, buzz. Right between the eyes.

Like a caribou.

286 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:47:01am

re: #248 buzzsawmonkey

Palin is the "log cabin" candidate

By bringing up "log cabin" you're trying to subliminally make us think of maple syrup which in turn makes us think Aunt Jemima (hello? racial stereotypes?), WHICH, in turn, is supposed to frighten us about the size of Obama's pee-pee and what he might plan to do with it vis a vis blonde white women. You're utterly transparent, Mr. Right-Wing Hatemonger.

/Bob HebertThink

287 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:47:23am

re: #272 JimmyTheClaw

orielly just ripped the daily kos they are so hateful they are now irrelevant no politician will go near their poison

Does that mean kos won't be holding the presidential debates?

ptfoo. If I were McCain, I'd do a pre-emptive strike and publicly announce I refuse to attend any debates hosted by them, pointing out that Fox News would be acceptable, though, this time.

288 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:47:44am

re: #274 irish rose

Wow, Rush is really giving em hell today.
Drop whatever you're doing and go listen.

I'm convinced. For the first time in memory, I've turned my radio to Rush.

289 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:48:23am

I have also wondered how Todd Palin has taken all this. He is a former oil field operators, currently a fisherman, and for sport races snowmobiles. Markos just better not be in the same room as him....ever!

290 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:48:37am

re: #276 Nevergiveup

And anyway, what's so uncomfortable about LIFE?

I hope Bristol Palin is somehow shielded from this shit. This kind of stress is NOT good for a pregnancy.

291 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:48:43am

A big gold star to the first poster who knows who was the "Log Cabin and Hard Cider" candidate, without searching....

292 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:48:56am

re: #270 jwb7605

Photographic evidence required.
please, please, please.

:)

Looks like they have a web site....
Mosquito Fleet, not sure if it's the same bunch.....

293 godfrey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:48:57am

re: #272 JimmyTheClaw

Yep, and that's another good reason why Charles has been assiduous in keeping his own house clean.

Kos is poison, and there's no undoing it.

294 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:49:03am

re: #286 Occasional Reader

By bringing up "log cabin" you're trying to subliminally make us think of maple syrup which in turn makes us think Aunt Jemima (hello? racial stereotypes?), WHICH, in turn, is supposed to frighten us about the size of Obama's pee-pee and what he might plan to do with it vis a vis blonde white women. You're utterly transparent, Mr. Right-Wing Hatemonger.

/Bob HebertThink

But log- cabin Republicans has another connotation.

295 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:49:15am

Covering Diddy.

296 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:49:17am

re: #289 big steve

Markos just better not be in the same room as him....ever!

He would offer him a Mentos, and everything would be swell.

297 HDrepub  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:49:25am

re: #70 lawhawk


I guess he doesn't mind his site used as a cesspool, or should I say septic system, although it looks like the crap's truly backing up for the world to see.

No you got it right the first time, cesspool is a better description.

298 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:49:38am

re: #267 Typicalwhitey

WOW!

Snip:

HAHAHAHAHAAA!

I would pay to say that.

299 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:49:48am

Oh Noooo, now Rush is playing the P Diddy tape!
LOL

300 Dahveed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:49:57am

Laura Ingraham said it best on Fox News last night. She said that feminists have been lying all this time. They said they wanted women to progress in our society. The fact is all they wanted was liberal women to progress.

301 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:05am

re: #291 Silhouette

A big gold star to the first poster who knows who was the "Log Cabin and Hard Cider" candidate, without searching....

Semi-wild guess ... Andy Jackson?

302 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:16am

re: #286 Occasional Reader


/Bob HebertThink

"Hebert" being the sophisticated, nuanced spelling of "Herbert", as you're all doubtless aware.

303 godfrey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:18am

re: #286 Occasional Reader

OR, that's pretty weirdly impressive. :-)

304 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:18am

re: #283 buzzsawmonkey

Me, I'm just a guy with a laptop, and something that passes for a brain.

Well, reading your posts gives me a mental tingle.

305 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:31am

Rush, reads LGF....
He's playing the P. Diddy clip Charles put up last night.

306 kansas  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:33am

I hope this lady can get mad in her speech. You know we've all been waiting for someone to unleash on these despicable turds.

307 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:40am

re: #289 big steve

I have also wondered how Todd Palin has taken all this. He is a former oil field operators, currently a fisherman, and for sport races snowmobiles. Markos just better not be in the same room as him....ever!


further there was a famous case in Houston a decade or so ago where a father beat the crap out of some 20 year old who spread rumors about his 16 year old daughter. The beating was witnessed by over 30 people in a park. Richard Racehorse Haynes defended him. The jury returned in under an hour with a not guilty.

308 CanadianBacon  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:51am

re: #216 Kenneth

What's not to like? Poor firearm handling: her finger is on the trigger and she hasn't confirmed her target.

Other than that, I'm good with it. Heck, I'm great with it. The red, white, and blue look terrific on some folks.

309 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:55am

Remembering why I hate the radio. The ads are insultingly stupid. "THis is a public announcement. Listeners whose last names end in A through N may call today..." I would hate to be in a business where you have to feel contempt for your customers.

310 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:51:00am

re: #286 Occasional Reader

By bringing up "log cabin" you're trying to subliminally make us think of maple syrup which in turn makes us think Aunt Jemima (hello? racial stereotypes?), WHICH, in turn, is supposed to frighten us about the size of Obama's pee-pee and what he might plan to do with it vis a vis blonde white women. You're utterly transparent, Mr. Right-Wing Hatemonger.

/Bob HebertThink

ROFLMAO!

311 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:51:14am

re: #295 MandyManners

Covering Diddy.

Good. And please KEEP it covered. This is a family blog, thank you very much.

312 kansas  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:51:16am

re: #274 irish rose

Wow, Rush is really giving em hell today.
Drop whatever you're doing and go listen.

Had to turn off P Diddy though. Made me want to commit suicide.

313 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:51:42am

re: #307 big steve

further there was a famous case in Houston a decade or so ago where a father beat the crap out of some 20 year old who spread rumors about his 16 year old daughter. The beating was witnessed by over 30 people in a park. Richard Racehorse Haynes defended him. The jury returned in under an hour with a not guilty.

Yeah but that could only happan in Texas and maybe...well... Alaska!

314 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:51:51am

re: #292 jcm

Looks like they have a web site....
Mosquito Fleet, not sure if it's the same bunch.....

Moped Army Branch
37 Members
3 Scouts
3 Honorary

/backing off with deeply respectful tone ...

315 HDrepub  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:51:55am

re: #291 Silhouette

A big gold star to the first poster who knows who was the "Log Cabin and Hard Cider" candidate, without searching....

William Henry Harrison, was my first thought, but I cheated and checked up on myself. Hey I'm past 60, the memory is not so good these days.

316 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:51:58am

re: #308 CanadianBacon

What's not to like? Poor firearm handling: her finger is on the trigger and she hasn't confirmed her target.

Other than that, I'm good with it. Heck, I'm great with it. The red, white, and blue look terrific on some folks.

Thank you, I almost posted that. Please, pols, no DiFi gun-handling, even in private.

I like you as live pols, not as dead martyrs to the gun-control cause.

317 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:52:33am

P Diddy do something?

318 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:52:42am

re: #286 Occasional Reader

By bringing up "log cabin" you're trying to subliminally make us think of maple syrup which in turn makes us think Aunt Jemima (hello? racial stereotypes?), WHICH, in turn, is supposed to frighten us about the size of Obama's pee-pee and what he might plan to do with it vis a vis blonde white women. You're utterly transparent, Mr. Right-Wing Hatemonger.

/Bob HebertThink

/Log!

319 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:52:50am

re: #269 MandyManners

Why not? She doesn't seem to be one to shrink from uncomfortable situations.

Hmmm, mostly due to the real insignificance her daughter's pregnancy has to the presidency.

320 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:52:57am

Why is he defending BUCHANAN?

321 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:53:19am

re: #317 Peacekeeper

P Diddy do something?

Yes, he demonstrated a South Park-ian ability to evacuate his bowels via his mouth.

322 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:53:19am

re: #260 Noam Chumpski

You know that's really positive and clever parenting. Instead of being invasive and overbearing, you're now in the loop. Good thinking.


Thanks, I'd love to take credit, but it was my two high school age daughters that suggested I create one. I think the "no freaking out" rule MommyG and I have followed is paying off.

The other night we drove home a friend who showed up to a church dance after drinking. The friend was freaked that my daughter called us - but we drove her home without commenting on the incident. Halfway through the ride the friend asked why I didn't scold her. I replied "would it help?"

She relaxed quite a bit after that and admitted to me that what she did was pretty dumb. I said I know, but I'd rather drive home a girl who made a dumb mistake than attend the funeral of a "perfect" girl.

I suspect the future VP of our country has had some very similar conversations with her daughter. In fact I am willing to bet that the bulk of the electorate know exactly the type of worry mixed with pride the Palins are dealing with and have a great empathy towards them.

323 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:53:19am

re: #295 MandyManners

Covering Diddy.

Not covering (your) Diddy will get you arrested in the majority of the 57 states.

324 irish rose  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:53:24am

re: #288 MandyManners

I'm convinced. For the first time in memory, I've turned my radio to Rush.

I never listen to Rush other.
I now find myself asking "why?"

325 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:53:49am

re: #314 jwb7605

Moped Army Branch
37 Members
3 Scouts
3 Honorary

/backing off with deeply respectful tone ...

here Markos....here Markos.......come on down to Texas....I'll throw you a party.....you'll love it......great guest list.

326 kynna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:53:54am

Oops. Rush is unaware that Buchanan is a nazi sympathizer.

Now he's playing some Buchanan clips. Ugh. I hate PB.

Rush ... back away from the Buchanan.

Whew! He did.

327 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:53:57am

What did he do?

328 Iron Fist  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:54:32am

Barack Obama still hasn't explained when and how he got clean of Cocaine. Was it a 12 step program, NA, or what? How's it working for you, Barry?

329 BackwardsBoy  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:54:36am

re: #205 big steve
Big Steve, I haven't found one yet, but if Michelle said it, she's usually right.

330 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:54:38am

re: #317 Peacekeeper

P Diddy do something?

Thread!

331 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:54:42am

re: #308 CanadianBacon

What's not to like? Poor firearm handling: her finger is on the trigger

Are you sure? Doesn't look like it to me.

332 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:54:51am

re: #319 Perplexed

Hmmm, mostly due to the real insignificance her daughter's pregnancy has to the presidency.

Part of me thinks she should just refer to the challenges of parenting as a way to show she understands the lives of the rest of us. Part of me thinks she should take a bitch-slap at the rumor-mongers.

333 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:55:02am

re: #317 Peacekeeper

P Diddy do something?

/he talked to Doritos, damn it!

334 jim in virginia  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:55:11am

A quick lunchtime post and run from Ben Smith at Politico:

Obama : Back off stories (on Palin’s family/ pregnancy).

People's families are off limits.. people's children are especially off-limits …Our people were not involved in any way in this, and they will not be. And if I thought there was somebody in my campaign who was involved in something like that, they would be fired.

Yeah. Sure.

335 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:55:25am

re: #328 Iron Fist

Barack Obama still hasn't explained when and how he got clean of Cocaine. Was it a 12 step program, NA, or what? How's it working for you, Barry?

Michelle, hooked a finger in a nostril and said, "if you ever do that again......."

336 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:55:25am

re: #320 MandyManners

Why is he defending BUCHANAN?

Nooooooooooooooo!

337 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:55:44am

re: #322 DaddyG

Good work, DaddyG.

We had one of those "no question"* contracts with the oldest back when she started driving. I never got put into the position of using it, so I admire your ability to stick to the plan.

*You call me for a ride home, I will come and get you. No questions.

338 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:56:01am

re: #301 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Semi-wild guess ... Andy Jackson?

Close. Right time frame.

But it was the 9th, not the 7th president.

339 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:56:04am

re: #101 MandyManners

Why is no one ripping into Colmes?

Unless Colmes is part owner of the show, Fox needs to seriously consider replacing him with a liberal who can make a coherent argument and keep their mouth shut when the guests are talking. Such people do exist, Kirstin Powers for example. She does a credible job when she guest hosts for Colmes.

340 irish rose  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:56:26am

re: #324 irish rose

I never listen to Rush other. either.

PIMF

341 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:56:45am

re: #331 Occasional Reader

Are you sure? Doesn't look like it to me.

We're going to have to edit the photo so that only her finger is showing, aren't we?

/

342 rexatosis  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:56:50am

This is just the tip of the iceberg. This is going to be one ugly campaign.

343 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:56:51am

re: #330 jcm

Ah. Something telss me not to play that audio at work.

344 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:56:56am

re: #291 Silhouette

A big gold star to the first poster who knows who was the "Log Cabin and Hard Cider" candidate, without searching....

Harrison?

345 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:57:12am

re: #339 Son of the Black Dog

Unless Colmes is part owner of the show, Fox needs to seriously consider replacing him with a liberal who can make a coherent argument and keep their mouth shut when the guests are talking. Such people do exist, Kirstin Powers for example. She does a credible job when she guest hosts for Colmes.

Is there such a creature?

346 godfrey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:57:59am

That P Diddy video is hysterical. All that money, and sh*t for brains.

"Ah'm about to git focused."

Please, because the signal to noise ratio in your video is like 1:50.

347 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:58:09am

re: #331 Occasional Reader

She looked to me like her finger was laid along the side, outside the trigger guard.

348 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:58:55am

After Senator Lieberman speaks tonight, it will be interesting to see who is hated more by the Democrats: The Senator or President Bush?

349 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:59:08am

re: #344 lifeofthemind

William Henry. Yes! He died in 30 days.

350 CanadianBacon  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:59:59am

re: #331 Occasional Reader

Is her finger on the trigger? Well, OR, it was the first thing I noticed.

Well, maybe second, or third. BUT I NOTICED.

Eventually.

351 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:00:07am

Oh, and Diddy's a multimillionaire.

/pick your social placecards, they matter in the long run

352 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:00:14am
353 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:00:33am

re: #339 Son of the Black Dog

Unless Colmes is part owner of the show, Fox needs to seriously consider replacing him with a liberal who can make a coherent argument and keep their mouth shut when the guests are talking. Such people do exist, Kirstin Powers for example. She does a credible job when she guest hosts for Colmes.


I think Ron Kuby would be good.

354 rednaxela  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:00:36am

Hi guys,

Haven't been posting here for a while but I did want to say that I am very happy about the Palin pick because it means that the old, feisty McCain is back.

As for Kos and all that scum, let them continue with the smears, this will backfire big time. Let them be nasty, let them be sexist and let Biden underestimate Palin. Can't wait til Oct 2.

355 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:01:01am

re: #347 Dianna

She looked to me like her finger was laid along the side, outside the trigger guard.

Look at her knuckle, and then directly below the finger and you can see the tip of the trigger. No fingernail in the picture, unless she has a really stubby finger.

356 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:01:23am

re: #349 Silhouette

William Henry. Yes! He died in 30 days.

But he was well preserved by all that hard cider.

357 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:01:28am

re: #354 rednaxela

Hi guys,

Haven't been posting here for a while but I did want to say that I am very happy about the Palin pick because it means that the old, feisty McCain is back.

As for Kos and all that scum, let them continue with the smears, this will backfire big time. Let them be nasty, let them be sexist and let Biden underestimate Palin. Can't wait til Oct 2.

Do you mean Nov. 4th?

358 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:01:30am

Really, guys, I don't find a pic of Palin in a bkini all that distracting.

I mean, by Presidential/Vice-Presidential standards, she's a hottie, sure. But we're not talking Adriana Lima here.

359 CanadianBacon  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:01:31am

re: #341 OldLineTexan


If we edit the picture so that only her finger is showing, I may be able to concentrate, Texan.

She's not a shy one, I'd say.

360 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:02:24am

re: #216 Kenneth

It's funny reading the comments at the left/liberal fever swamps. The things that get them hating Sarah Palin, are the same things I love about her.

Including this picture of the next Vice-President of the United States.

What's not to like?


The German tabloids tried that shit (racy pics of Merkel) and caught hell for it.

BBL

361 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:02:36am

re: #352 taxfreekiller

rain out of north, then rain out of east, then sun then rain out of north
then raind out of east, Gust-off is drunk now

Well, he did take a quick pass through N'awlens.

362 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:02:36am
363 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:02:49am

re: #343 Peacekeeper

Ah. Something telss me not to play that audio at work.

Rush played a bit. Transcription:

BEEP Alaska BEEP yo BEEP BEEP Alaska BEEP girl BEEP BEEP BEEP....

You get the idea.

364 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:02:51am

Rush did compliment Ray Nagin.

365 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:03:00am

re: #358 Occasional Reader

Really, guys, I don't find a pic of Palin in a bkini all that distracting.

I mean, by Presidential/Vice-Presidential standards, she's a hottie, sure. But we're not talking Adriana Lima here.

Yes, and we are always talking Adriana Lima, thanks to you. Muy Buena !

366 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:03:04am

re: #357 Nevergiveup

Do you mean Nov. 4th?

October 2 is the Vice Presidential candidate debate.

367 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:03:24am

re: #349 Silhouette

William Henry. Yes! He died in 30 days.

That's why one should keep an inauguration speech short and sweet.

368 rednaxela  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:03:36am

Also hope the McCain campaign pulls out of the Oct 7 debate so long as that self-important asshole Brokaw is in charge.

369 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:03:42am

re: #363 jcm
I git the idea yo beep beep!

370 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:03:49am

re: #362 buzzsawmonkey

You're forgetting that it's 35 below when she's wearing the bikini.

Now that's hot.

And I'm wondering how many outdoor pools there are in Alaska?!

371 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:03:52am

re: #358 Occasional Reader

Really, guys, I don't find a pic of Palin in a bkini all that distracting.

I mean, by Presidential/Vice-Presidential standards, she's a hottie, sure. But we're not talking Adriana Lima here.

Would you rather see Dick Cheney in a bikini? Of all the Vice-Presidential bikini pictures, that one is easily at the top of my personal favorites list.

Besides, Adriana can't run for VP.

372 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:04:15am

I think the guy in the background smoking and drinking beer from a can will make the LLL heads explode more.

373 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:04:28am

re: #364 lifeofthemind

Rush did compliment Ray Nagin.

Well, to be fair to Nagin, he did have a competent governor in Baton Rouge this time.

374 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:04:56am

re: #364 lifeofthemind

Rush did compliment Ray Nagin.

I would, too, if only Ray had managed to do the job and make the TV appearances without the Katrina-related bashing. I turned the TV off.

375 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:05:31am

I am looking forward to the VP debate : if Biden suggests she is unqualified she can come right back with: " Of course you think I'm unqualified. You guys thought Hillary wasn't even worth vetting."

376 rednaxela  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:05:36am

re: #364 lifeofthemind

Yeah, I didn't get that. Nagin really went over the top with his weather forecasting verbosity. And got it badly wrong too.

377 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:05:39am

re: #372 Silhouette

I think the guy in the background smoking and drinking beer from a can will make the LLL heads explode more.

Heh, also not a good idea in a gun picture. The drinking, I mean.

378 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:05:45am

re: #366 jwb7605

October 2 is the Vice Presidential candidate debate.

Yeah as soon as I was posting that I realized what you meant.

379 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:05:46am

re: #365 Peacekeeper

Yes, and we are always talking Adriana Lima, thanks to you. Muy Buena !

That's muita boa, you... you... merci-beaucouping troglodyte.

380 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:05:57am
381 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:05:58am

re: #358 Occasional Reader

Really, guys, I don't find a pic of Palin in a bkini all that distracting.

I mean, by Presidential/Vice-Presidential standards, she's a hottie, sure. But we're not talking Adriana Lima here.

Lima's a tough standard to meet.

382 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:06:00am

re: #370 Occasional Reader

And I'm wondering how many outdoor pools there are in Alaska?!

In the winter time, one.
In any given part of the state.
Always within 50 yards of Sarah Palin.

383 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:06:02am

re: #371 Kenneth

Would you rather see Dick Cheney in a bikini?

Maybe I would. Haven't you seen that famous photo of him?

384 Dustyvet  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:06:24am

re: #42 iceman1960

Must be a lot of holes over there at the Kos

Sure are, but then we all know that rats live in holes...

385 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:06:34am

re: #365 Peacekeeper

Yes, and we are always talking Adriana Lima, thanks to you. Muy Buena !

IMHO at the same age Pallin had a more attractive face. Lima has a terrific figure but I doubt she will look as good in 20 years. As long as I am fantasizing might as well fantasize a long term relationship.

386 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:06:53am

from the article I posted at #24

Sure, if she were one of ours, not only would we have nominated her by acclamation, since she fulfills every trope of feminism except for her unfortunate and inexplicable opposition to murdering unborn children, we would also have made at least two TV movies about her life, celebrating her choice to have her fifth child and the announcement yesterday that her 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, is pregnant and is going to marry the teenage father of her child. That’s the kind of heartwarming, inclusive, empowering story we love — she’s like Juno come to life as Juneau, set in Mystery, Alaska.

But she’s not a Democrat, which despite her va-va-va-voom appearance, means she’s not really a woman, which is one of the reasons we’ve spent the past four days since McCain unveiled her trying to tear her limb from limb. Just because she’s the governor of a state sandwiched between two obscure and unimportant countries, Canada and Russia, and spent more time in her first five minutes visiting American troops in Iraq than Evita Barry did during his entire Rainbow Tour, what could she possibly know about foreign policy? It’s not like she’s John Edwards or something.

387 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:06:58am

re: #371 Kenneth

Would you rather see Dick Cheney in a bikini?

I don't have to answer your fascist questions!

388 Iron Fist  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:07:03am

re: #296 Silhouette

If Markos were smart, he'd kick his own ass, and then apologize. It'd hurt less, and the results would be the same.

389 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:07:18am

re: #383 Silhouette

Maybe I would. Haven't you seen that famous photo of him?

I know which one YOU'RE talking about.

Heh.

He has the big wallet, too.

/I know how it goes

390 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:07:29am

re: #379 Occasional Reader

That's muita boa, you... you... merci-beaucouping troglodyte.

I have shamed my fellow rednecks.

391 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:07:35am

re: #385 lifeofthemind

IMHO at the same age Pallin had a more attractive face. Lima has a terrific figure but I doubt she will look as good in 20 years. As long as I am fantasizing might as well fantasize a long term relationship.

Who is Adriana Lima?
Does she fish?

392 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:07:35am

re: #337 OldLineTexan

Good work, DaddyG.

We had one of those "no question"* contracts with the oldest back when she started driving. I never got put into the position of using it, so I admire your ability to stick to the plan.

*You call me for a ride home, I will come and get you. No questions.

Admitedly I was relieved it was my daughters friend that was drinking that night. I thought it was very cool of my daughter to care for her friend enough to make the call. She is only 17.

393 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:07:40am

re: #372 Silhouette

I think the guy in the background smoking and drinking beer from a can will make the LLL heads explode more.

I bet it's not even a premium micro-brewery ale! Oh, the humanity!

394 mean Gene  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:07:40am

It is obvious she is pregnant in that video.
All the photos are ''disappeared,'' but she has a good sized belly bump carrying it high (which is good) all through the video.
Poor little koz kidz.
Just like most young Chicoms, they probably have never even met a woman who has been a health nut and has also had four or five children.
That is exactly how they look.....radiant, healthy, happy, energetic.
No extra fat just because ''she's eating for two,"

395 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:08:02am

re: #380 buzzsawmonkey

Who needs an outdoor pool when you can be baring it all in the Bering Sea? When you can sidestroke with the sea lions?

We hear a lot about the Bering Straits. But what about the Bering Gays? Why is their narrative being marginalized?

396 maddogg  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:08:05am

re: #248 buzzsawmonkey

"There are a lot more people, probably--black or white--who identify with the "log cabin" narrative. That is what scares the Obama campaign, and the media that support him, since both belong to the elite-anointment narrative. "

I am not sure you are correct in that. The country has become so urbanized in the past 30 years that people will seriously entertain the idea of putting a communist with virtually no experience in the White House. Half the people may not even be able to tell you who is running for POTUS. But they can tell you what the latest escapade of some sleazy pop tart is. What you say is true for the majority of conservatives I believe, and certainly myself, But for most Americans, I doubt it. They seem to be looking for the Government to be their parents, and do not make me think of "rugged individualists:. How many people read Hemingway anymore? They do watch a moron like P-diddy though, and don't even think him the fool he is.

397 quickjustice  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:08:06am

So today, the N.Y. Times prints three front-page stories about Sarah Palin's personal life, and that of her daughter.

This despite Obama's tepid prior statement that such "personal" issues ought to be out of bounds? Hmmm.

Sounds like it's time to get personal with Obama, his wife, his children, Biden, his wife, his children, Gore, his wife, his kids, and of course, Clinton, his wife, and his child. The Democrats want to engage in the politics of personal destruction? Time to get started!

And as for the editors and managers of the N.Y. Times, how many of them have cheated on their wives? (Plenty). What percentage of the staff reporters are gay? (It's very high.) And what about their use of eminent domain to seize the privately-owned land upon which their current headquarters is located? The N.Y. Times supported New London, Connecticut in seizing grandma's house for the benefit of privater developers.

398 godfrey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:08:41am

Diddy lyrics

People buy that stuff. I'm buggin', y'all.

399 rednaxela  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:08:58am

re: #357 Nevergiveup

No, Oct 2, VP debate when Biden will get his ass handed to him in tiny fragments.

400 Racer X  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:09:02am

re: #391 jwb7605

Who is Adriana Lima?
Does she fish?

And own a boat?

401 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:09:11am

re: #379 Occasional Reader

What about Bonita?

402 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:09:11am
403 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:09:15am

re: #395 Occasional Reader

We hear a lot about the Bering Straits. But what about the Bering Gays? Why is their narrative being marginalized?

Excellent points.
Get the MSM on that.
/

404 jester6  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:09:20am

I had an epiphany last night. Maybe you folks already knew it. But I will throw it out here anyway. This distinction between Left and Right is knew to me.

Folks on the Right talk about right and wrong. They believe there is an ideal model of behavior we should all strive towards. But hardly anyone ever achieves that model. And those few who do become saints.

The folks on the Left see this as hypocrisy. They also have bought into their own propeganda that people on the Right are intolerant and judgmental. The left thinks if they drag all this stuff out the Religious Right will abandon Palin.


So when they see the comments of someone like Dobson is all they can do is scream hypocrisy. But all the Right leaning church going folk I know are completely unaffected by this story. And the more they attack Palin the more fired up they become.

And the folks in the middle. The ones who do not pay attention to politics until we get close to the election have to scratching their heads on this one.

The bottom line, when Palin addresses this at the convention, she simply needs to say something like

"My family, like many of yours, is not perfect. We do not always achieve the ideals we strive for. But when we fall short we don't look to Washington or the State Capitol or City Hall for help. We don't seek out our "community organizer". When we fall short we look first to ourselves, then to our family for support. And although some call this hypocrsy or something to be ashamed of, I consider this something to be proud of. This is what I call family values."

Let the Lefties keep throwing the mud. She can hit a homerun on this issue if she stays classy. We don't need to throw the mud back.

405 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:10:11am

Alaska? Alaska? Alaska? Alask...?

406 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:10:45am

re: #390 Peacekeeper

I have shamed my fellow rednecks.

I blame YOU for the fact that all the Brazilians in the "Blame it on Lisa" (Simpsons go to Rio) episode had Spanish accents.

(Of course, that doesn't justify some people having no sense of humor)

407 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:11:08am

re: #21 Honorary Yooper

John Kass is a national treasure.

408 cblesz  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:11:27am

What is Rush saying?

409 kuffar  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:11:28am

re: #405 MandyManners

What do you expect?

410 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:11:31am

re: #371 Kenneth

Would you rather see Dick Cheney in a bikini? Of all the Vice-Presidential bikini pictures, that one is easily at the top of my personal favorites list.

Besides, Adriana can't run for VP.

Didja have too?!

/Pass the brain bleach

411 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:12:19am

re: #408 cblesz

What is Rush saying?

He's on the P. Diddy thread.

412 HDrepub  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:13:10am

re: #355 OldLineTexan

Look at her knuckle, and then directly below the finger and you can see the tip of the trigger. No fingernail in the picture, unless she has a really stubby finger.

Whatever, but it isn't going to do much damage if it goes off, it's pointed in the air and it's a .177 caliber pellet rifle.

413 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:13:22am

re: #216 Kenneth

Including this picture of the next Vice-President of the United States.

Great shot. Quality Americana bikini. Is the homer in the background drinking a Schlitz? Extra points for Palin!

414 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:13:33am
415 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:13:39am

re: #401 Peacekeeper

What about Bonita?

Works in either language. Remember: Portugese is essentially Spanish spoken while really, really drunk.

416 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:13:47am

re: #254 DaddyG

Ask them to help you create your own. They will invariably link you as a friend. My daughters did and I have lots of fun with them. The response from their less circumspect friends is priceless when they realize I'm part of their friends group!

I am categorically banned from Facebook by my three kids. The oldest one lets me look over her shoulder sometimes, especially when it involves wedding pictures (a bunch of her friends graduated and got married this summer). Since I have absolutely no reason to expect any hanky-panky, I let them enjoy their privacy.

417 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:13:55am

re: #404 jester6
This business reminds me of the dbate where Edwards suavely complimented Cheney on his lesbian daughter.

418 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:15:21am

re: #389 OldLineTexan

I know which one YOU'RE talking about.

Well, it isn't the one with the space alien/naked woman reflected in his sunglasses!

419 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:15:26am

re: #397 quickjustice

And what about their use of eminent domain to seize the privately-owned land upon which their current headquarters is located? The N.Y. Times supported New London, Connecticut in seizing grandma's house for the benefit of privater developers.

The Times is deeply mobbed up in the plan to knock down viable chunks of Brooklyn for Forest City Ratner. Ratner built the new NYT headquarters.

420 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:15:27am

re: #417 Peacekeeper

This business reminds me of the dbate where Edwards suavely complimented Cheney on his lesbian daughter.

I don't think the burns from Cheney's stare have healed yet.

421 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:16:21am

re: #404 jester6

I had an epiphany last night. Maybe you folks already knew it. But I will throw it out here anyway. This distinction between Left and Right is knew to me.

Folks on the Right talk about right and wrong. They believe there is an ideal model of behavior we should all strive towards. But hardly anyone ever achieves that model. And those few who do become saints.

The folks on the Left see this as hypocrisy. They also have bought into their own propeganda that people on the Right are intolerant and judgmental. The left thinks if they drag all this stuff out the Religious Right will abandon Palin.


So when they see the comments of someone like Dobson is all they can do is scream hypocrisy. But all the Right leaning church going folk I know are completely unaffected by this story. And the more they attack Palin the more fired up they become.

And the folks in the middle. The ones who do not pay attention to politics until we get close to the election have to scratching their heads on this one.

The bottom line, when Palin addresses this at the convention, she simply needs to say something like

Let the Lefties keep throwing the mud. She can hit a homerun on this issue if she stays classy. We don't need to throw the mud back.

Why does joining/running the P.T.A. not count in the "community organization" category? When (apparently the citizens) encouraged her to run for Mayor, why wasn't that part of a "community organization" effort?

The epiphany I'm having is how I managed to ignore these and other obvious Elephant-In-The-Room issues.

If I were her, I'd be publicly musing about that sort of thing, as opposed to pointing out the mud.

422 quickjustice  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:16:35am

re: #419 lifeofthemind

Bingo!

423 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:16:57am

re: #406 Occasional Reader

From your link:
Rio has severe social problems and high levels of violence, although these are generally restricted to certain areas. Attacks on tourists are rare and no one has ever been attacked by a monkey on Copacabana.

emphasis mine.

424 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:17:00am

re: #420 jcm

I don't think the burns from Cheney's stare have healed yet.

I hear Edwards keeps getting hunting invitations from Cheney ever since.

425 armytramp  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:17:43am

Found at Michelle Malkin, the Sarah Palin Sexism Watch.

426 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:17:47am

re: #410 DaddyG

Hey, I thought it was funny, but apparently some women here like the idea.

Nice to think when Sarah is sworn in as VP (and she will be!), Dick can tour her round his office and show her where he keeps his ammo & favorite fishing flies.

I liked her before McCain nominated her, I was well impressed by her speech that day, & now after all this "baby" kerfuffle, I like her even more. She's got moral courage, strength of character and integrity.

427 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:18:22am

re: #410 DaddyG

Didja have too?!

/Pass the brain bleach

Again, we need low quality grainy photographic evidence.
Really grainy. Nothing bigger than 16x16, greyscale.

428 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:18:42am

re: #415 Occasional Reader

Well IF I ever come face to face with Adriana I'll have a word to sputter.

429 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:19:00am

re: #404 jester6

They also have bought into their own propeganda that people on the Right are intolerant and judgmental. The left thinks if they drag all this stuff out the Religious Right will abandon Palin.

So when they see the comments of someone like Dobson is all they can do is scream hypocrisy.

I think this is exactly right.

They are forever bringing up "dirt" on conservatives that, if true to their political viewpoints, they shouldn't consider dirt. Like Cheney's daughter.

But it isn't so much that they are closet disapprovers, it is that they are certain that the religious will abandon them. Exactly.

They, once again, have no concept of human nature or what our side even means when we're talking.

430 jester6  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:19:00am

re: #328 Iron Fist

Barack Obama still hasn't explained when and how he got clean of Cocaine. Was it a 12 step program, NA, or what? How's it working for you, Barry?

Not everyone who does cocaine gets addicted. In my younger days I knew a lot of people who would be an eight-ball, stay awake until the dope ran out in a day or two, slept for a day or two, then went back to work. If they ever repeated the process they did it in a year or two.

These people are now surgeons, lawyers and business owners. No 12 step, no addiction, no messed up life.

I am sure not as many people who smoke pot have done cocaine, but it really is an issue the Republicans do not want to touch. Let the left swim in the sewer this time. Their true colors are coming out.

431 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:19:15am

re: #416 doppelganglander

I am categorically banned from Facebook by my three kids. The oldest one lets me look over her shoulder sometimes, especially when it involves wedding pictures (a bunch of her friends graduated and got married this summer). Since I have absolutely no reason to expect any hanky-panky, I let them enjoy their privacy.

That is good. I wouldn't invite myself. My son has his anime discussion boards and I am not a part of that particular world.

The bottom line is the vast majority of parents are the best experts on how to raise their own kids.

432 Dustoff-507  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:19:32am

JCM

433 Semper Gumbi  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:19:36am

re: #316 OldLineTexan

Has it been confirmed that that picture isn't photoshopped? It looks phony to me.

434 WriterMom  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:20:07am

re: #375 Peacekeeper

You again!

435 Racer X  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:20:15am

re: #216 Kenneth

It's funny reading the comments at the left/liberal fever swamps. The things that get them hating Sarah Palin, are the same things I love about her.

Including this picture of the next Vice-President of the United States.

What's not to like?

Is that picture a photoshopped head of this image reversed?

436 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:20:30am

If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness - and hopelessness!

Are ANY white people saying that if Obama wins there will be a "race war"?
What would happen to them if they did?

437 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:20:34am
438 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:20:39am

re: #434 WriterMom

You again!

Bonita!

439 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:21:03am

re: #423 Peacekeeper

From your link:
Rio has severe social problems and high levels of violence, although these are generally restricted to certain areas. Attacks on tourists are rare and no one has ever been attacked by a monkey on Copacabana.

emphasis mine.

Good eye, counselor.

But the Simpsons writers really did a pretty sloppy job with that ep.

Part of the anger in Brazil about The Simpsons is that, as well the stereotypes, there are many inaccuracies - Marge, the mother, finds that the local mode of transport is the "conga", which is a Caribbean dance. (She takes a conga to the hotel).

Also, the family visits a samba school to learn the macarena - a Latin dance not performed in Brazil

Compare to, say, their spot-on stereotyping of Australia.

440 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:21:15am

If Cheney tossed Edwards down a staircase I hope I get to be on the jury.

441 Dustoff-507  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:21:22am

JCM......

Looks like Boeing is going on strike. 0-:

442 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:21:56am

re: #416 doppelganglander

I am categorically banned from Facebook by my three kids. The oldest one lets me look over her shoulder sometimes, especially when it involves wedding pictures (a bunch of her friends graduated and got married this summer). Since I have absolutely no reason to expect any hanky-panky, I let them enjoy their privacy.

As we explained to our teens: we have no reason or desire to read your email and facebook, but at the same time there shouldn't be anything in there we should not see.

443 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:21:58am

re: #265 Nevergiveup

Driving home from dropping my eldest daughter at school yesterday, my wife asked me what I thought the reaction would be to Bristol Palin's pregnancy. And since I was kinda out of contact, you can file me under last to know! I think the Democrat Elite better be real careful. Most voters are ordinary Americans like you and me and live in fly over country. They have families just like Sarah Palin. They get it and understand. They are much more likely to have an unwed pregnant daughter than a house partially financed by a Chicago racketeer.

With a valuation of nearly $2,000,000 I wouldn't not call the Obama's digs in Hyde Park a "house." Mansion is much closer to the appropriate word.

444 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:22:16am

Overheard;

Palin was being cautioned by a McCain staffer that the scrutiny on her would be very very hard, and the MSM and left wing bloggers would be relentless. Her debate with Biden would be full of traps set by the questioners. Palin thanked the staffer for the heads up, and her comment was

"Do you know the difference between a soccer mom and a pit bull?"

The staffer said "no, I don't"

Palin stated "lipstick"

445 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:22:48am

re: #437 buzzsawmonkey

Some say we are the Arsenal of Hypocracy...

446 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:23:24am

re: #439 Occasional Reader

So tell me then, are rats colored like skittles or what?

447 rawmuse  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:23:26am

re: #233 cblesz

Someone gimme color on Rush today...at work and cannot listen

He is in rare form today.

448 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:23:26am
449 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:23:46am

re: #436 Typicalwhitey

If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness - and hopelessness!

Are ANY white people saying that if Obama wins there will be a "race war"?
What would happen to them if they did?

I bet that a lot of folks are thinking it.

450 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:24:06am

re: #436 Typicalwhitey

If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness - and hopelessness!

Are ANY white people saying that if Obama wins there will be a "race war"?
What would happen to them if they did?

Wow.

At least the comments almost uniformly tear the author a new one for her ridiculous hyperbole.

451 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:24:11am

re: #431 DaddyG

The bottom line is the vast majority of parents are the best experts on how to raise their own kids.

The sound you hear is a million voices of leftists screaming in terror.

I have actually seen "educators" roll their eyes and look at each other in amusment that my husband and I thought we know better than they what is good for our child. We walked out and went straight to sign them up for private school.

452 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:24:14am

re: #404 jester6

Beautifully said.

453 SpringheelJack  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:24:16am

re: #203 FrogMarch

re: Obama selling/providing cocaine: Larry Sinclair seems to be the biggest and most recent source of this allegation (along with Obama practicing gay sex)

454 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:24:24am

re: #439 Occasional Reader

Compare to, say, their spot-on stereotyping of Australia.

"Australia - Celebrating 30 Years of Electricity"
I love the Australia episode.

455 quickjustice  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:24:35am

re: #440 lifeofthemind

I'd say Edwards now is being punished, punishment this man richly deserves. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

456 irish rose  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:24:57am

re: #420 jcm

I don't think the burns from Cheney's stare have healed yet.

Wish I had a video of that, got one?

457 jester6  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:25:00am

re: #429 Silhouette

I think this is exactly right.

They are forever bringing up "dirt" on conservatives that, if true to their political viewpoints, they shouldn't consider dirt. Like Cheney's daughter.

They, once again, have no concept of human nature or what our side even means when we're talking.

Good point on Cheney's daughter. And I remember how everyone - not just partisans but average non-political folk - thought that was a cheap shot.

458 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:25:15am

re: #436 Typicalwhitey

If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness - and hopelessness!

Are ANY white people saying that if Obama wins there will be a "race war"?
What would happen to them if they did?

Silly, Da White Man has been wagin' his Wah of Oppreshin foh genrations now.

459 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:25:29am

re: #439 Occasional Reader

Compare to, say, their spot-on stereotyping of Australia.

But they nailed Knoxville. We do indeed store wigs in the SunSphere.

460 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:26:02am

re: #455 quickjustice

You can't rape the willing and you can't shame the shameless. He's probably already planning his comeback.

461 jester6  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:26:15am

re: #436 Typicalwhitey

If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness - and hopelessness!

Are ANY white people saying that if Obama wins there will be a "race war"?
What would happen to them if they did?

This story came form Philly. I don't know about the race and class part, but Philly is a war zone right now.

462 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:26:25am

re: #436 Typicalwhitey

If
McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a
deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness - and
hopelessness!


Are ANY white people saying that if Obama wins there will be a "race war"?

What would happen to them if they did?

Hell, Diddy (if that jackass wants to be called by a jackass name, who am I to object?) equated black people with crime & crackheads in his little response to the Palin pick - just imagine if a conservative person of any race had said what he said.

463 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:26:48am

Rush on Campbell Brown now.
Sounds to me like Brown is screaming "I can't help myself I'm going to assault this girl and you can't stop me. Run and hide if people get hurt it isn't my fault." This is similar to the Islamist excuse for keeping women in seclusion because men can't help themselves.

464 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:27:01am

re: #436 Typicalwhitey

If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness - and hopelessness!

Are ANY white people saying that if Obama wins there will be a "race war"?
What would happen to them if they did?

David Duke is. What's going to happen to him is "above my pay grade."

465 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:27:06am

re: #442 Kenneth

As we explained to our teens: we have no reason or desire to read your email and facebook, but at the same time there shouldn't be anything in there we should not see.

That's a good policy. My kids are very much unlike me. When I was a teenager, all I wanted to do was stuff my parents didn't know about. It wasn't necessarily bad stuff -- I liked being places they didn't know I was with people they didn't know I was with. It made me feel independent, I guess. I only have one left at home (age 16), and she calls me before she accepts a ride with one of her friends, calls if they change their plans, and has never attended a party without a responsible adult present. Where did I go wrong? ;)

466 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:27:21am

re: #459 Silhouette

But they nailed Knoxville. We do indeed store wigs in the SunSphere.

Are you serious? That's awesome!

467 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:27:25am

Obama's going down to defeat will not precipitate a race war, rather a race-baiters' war.

468 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:27:40am

re: #453 SpringheelJack

Just practicing? He didn't even get it right?

469 armytramp  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:28:07am

re: #435 Racer X

BUSTED! Yep, it looks like a photoshop.

470 kansas  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:28:25am

Polls are showing Obama at 50%. Now with the MSM attacking 24/7 during the convention, any ideas on what is going to turn this around? Are we headed for Obama/Biden?

471 maddogg  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:28:55am

re: #414 buzzsawmonkey

I think, and hope, that the fact that Palin is self-made in a way that Obama is not will still resonate with people--even urban and suburban people--who are not part of the Elite College Ticket To Success conveyor. Ordinary people, black and white, may admire Obama's climb, but they will, I think, identify with, and support, Sarah Palin's.

I hope you are correct, but I know 5 black people well, speak with them daily, and they are voting for Obama because: *insert guess here*.

472 gonecamping  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:28:55am

Well, well, well. The Democrats have always engaged in class warfare, but it was always pitting the haves against the have nots.

What I is see now is a redefining of the term class warfare. The Far Left has taken over the Dems and is showing that the Dems have no class whatsoever while the conservatives continue to exhibit Class.

473 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:29:12am

re: #456 irish rose

Wish I had a video of that, got one?

Around the 1 minute mark...

474 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:29:13am

re: #436 Typicalwhitey

If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness - and hopelessness!

Are ANY white people saying that if Obama wins there will be a "race war"?
What would happen to them if they did?

Argumentam ad baculum - vote for Obama OR ELSE!

475 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:29:14am

Once again, LGF is show prep for Rush Limbaugh.
He just finished talking about P. Diddy's YouTube rant.

476 WriterMom  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:29:16am

It is really amazing how a conservative woman, happily married, with an 80% approval rating and with such a pro-life attitude is scaring these left-o-weenies to death. Issues? Issues?

477 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:30:03am

re: #466 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Are you serious? That's awesome!

No, sorry. I was kidding. It is actually empty because they can't make a restaurant up there that makes money. The cooling costs are (no pun intended) sky high.

The symbol of the energy World's Fair is energy inefficient.

478 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:30:04am

Rush is currently discussing Campbell Brown's neanderthal comment, basically "How can she raise her family and be vice president?" I guess Campbell has never heard of nannies, housekeepers, and most importantly, dads.

479 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:30:05am

re: #450 Occasional Reader

Wow.

At least the comments almost uniformly tear the author a new one for her ridiculous hyperbole.

It's not hyperbole, she is threatening and intimidating. That is the point of the "Obama or Else" logos in NYC. They want to make us afraid not to vote for the Overwrought One

480 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:30:09am

So, you've settled for Branson...

481 WriterMom  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:30:59am

re: #451 Silhouette

Sil...you would love this article in the Nationa Post today about Vancouver's new public school cirriculum. Lemme see if I can find it. Because of two gay activists a brand new gay and 'transgendered' friendly cirriculum is being introduced-two activists without any children in the public school system...

482 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:31:10am

re: #476 WriterMom

It is really amazing how a conservative woman, happily married, with an 80% approval rating and with such a pro-life attitude is scaring these left-o-weenies to death. Issues? Issues?

And yet they will say that she was only chosen for the wow factor, that she has no real substance.

483 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:31:32am

re: #478 doppelganglander

Rush is currently discussing Campbell Brown's neanderthal comment, basically "How can she raise her family and be vice president?" I guess Campbell has never heard of nannies, housekeepers, and most importantly, dads.

The left knows little of dads, his role needs to be filled by a compassionate govt and redistribution

484 WriterMom  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:32:01am

re: #479 SpartanWoman

Obama "Or Else"?

GTFOOH.

Tantrums! Or else I won't invite you to my birthday party?

485 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:32:04am

re: #470 kansas

Polls are showing Obama at 50%. Now with the MSM attacking 24/7 during the convention, any ideas on what is going to turn this around? Are we headed for Obama/Biden?

See my post #44 on this thread. Don't worry too much about the "bounce".

486 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:32:42am

re: #480 Peacekeeper

So, you've settled for Branson...

No, pal, this is Bronson, Missouri.

487 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:33:13am

re: #484 WriterMom

Obama "Or Else"?

GTFOOH.

Tantrums! Or else I won't invite you to my birthday party?

I saw plenty of these on "yutes" in NYC

488 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:33:16am

re: #478 doppelganglander

Rush is currently discussing Campbell Brown's neanderthal comment, basically "How can she raise her family and be vice president?" I guess Campbell has never heard of nannies, housekeepers, and most importantly, dads.

Doesn't Obama have a family too?

489 WriterMom  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:33:42am

re: #482 Ford_Prefect

Yah-Obama is all substance.

*stiffling giggles*

490 StinkHammer  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:33:52am

re: #300 Dahveed

Laura Ingraham said it best on Fox News last night. She said that feminists have been lying all this time. They said they wanted women to progress in our society. The fact is all they wanted was liberal women to progress.

Something I've said since Palin was announced as veep candidate.

Nice of Laura to catch up.

;^)

491 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:34:04am

re: #478 doppelganglander

Rush is currently discussing Campbell Brown's neanderthal comment, basically "How can she raise her family and be vice president?" I guess Campbell has never heard of nannies, housekeepers, and most importantly, dads.

Fathers? Come on, a woman's place is in the home. A man with five children has time to be VP, but clearly a woman has to be at home. And she should bring her hubby a beer, too.

/

I don't know if it is a case of sexism or if he's faking the outrage because he thinks he can get conservatives mad at her for not being the default mom.

492 alteredbeat  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:34:05am

The rumor is Dkos user "arcxix" is David Axelrod. While it's just a rumor, it may explain why all that user's diaries are deleted.

493 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:34:11am
“For Barack Obama to argue that he’s experienced enough to be president because he’s running for president is desperate circular logic and it’s laughable. It is a testament to Barack Obama’s inexperience and failing qualifications that he would stoop to passing off his candidacy as comparable to Governor Sarah Palin’s executive experience managing a budget of over 10 billion dollar dollars, and more than 24,000 employees.”
—Tucker Bounds, spokesman John McCain 2008
494 WriterMom  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:34:32am

re: #487 SpartanWoman

Ah oui? Da youts of NYC unite for Obama?

Fantastique!

495 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:34:37am

re: #478 doppelganglander

Campbell Brown's neanderthal comment, basically "How can she raise her family and be vice president?"

Wow, it just dawned on me, Campbell Brown is right. We should require women to say home and take care of the babies, and not fret their pretty little heads with Important Man Stuff, like executive positions. Wow, I feel more progressive already.

496 Cygnus  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:35:02am

re: #143 Fat Jolly Penguin

DUmmies holding a Sarah Palin nickname contest.

"Governor Jesus Camp" is a bit funny, I gotta admit. She actually reads the Bible - oh, the horror!

497 Dave the.....  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:35:06am

Via NRO and Powerline, what some of the terrorists were doing in St Paul yesterday. This is in addition to throwing bleach on delegates and smashing the window of a loaded bus. No sign of Democrat St Paul city councildouche Dave Thune, who is supporting the wackos.

The most shocking events are described by Jim Hoft, who was on a bus that was attacked from above when a group of protesters dropped sand bags on to the top of the bus. This is attempted murder: if the protesters had succeeded in hitting the windshield, a sand bag would have crashed through and killed the driver. The resulting accident would have killed or injured others on the bus. To my knowledge, the left-wingers/would-be murderers were not caught.
A little later, a busload of Cub Scouts were en route to the convention, where they were to present the colors to open the convention. A group of protesters--liberals, Obama supporters, or whatever--blocked the road, surrounded the bus, and attacked it, rocking the bus back and forth, denting and scratching the sides, and generally terrifying the children trapped inside. The left-wing protesters attacked a number of buses in the same way, but there is something especially despicable about attacking a group of Cub Scouts.

498 sandspur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:35:13am

I was over at RedState this morning where they are speculating that this
arcxix is one Charles Hartley. And wondering if he has any ties to the Obama campaign.

499 Wishbone  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:35:26am

Now that's funny, 'cos our friend “arcxix” has already been directly quoted in the Daliy Mail in the UK, so that cat's out of the bag well and truly.

500 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:35:28am

Of, course unlike Palin, Obama does not have a husband- but this is no problem since he has already captured his base.

501 quickjustice  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:35:59am

On Diddy's ignorant remarks:

1. I've been to Anchorage, and it has a very large FBI office. That's because lots of fugitives flee to Anchorage, figuring that no one will recognize them there. So the "no crime in Alaska" meme is a myth. (The "bird man of Alcatraz" was imprisoned for a murder he committed in Alaska.)

2. Alaska remains a frontier. Frontier culture doesn't tolerate aspects of "hip hop" culture. That's the difference Diddy is incapable of understanding.

502 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:36:01am

re: #492 alteredbeat

The rumor is Dkos user "arcxix" is David Axelrod. While it's just a rumor, it may explain why all that user's diaries are deleted.

Well now, that is a rumor we should spread.....after all...they have no PROOF that it isn't him...right?

503 NotThatGordo  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:36:11am

re: #435 Racer X

I agree photoshop

504 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:36:12am

re: #479 SpartanWoman

It's not hyperbole, she is threatening and intimidating. That is the point of the "Obama or Else" logos in NYC. They want to make us afraid not to vote for the Overwrought One


McCain needs a counter slogan. Like the motto of the Royal Tank Corps "Fear Naught." It would make a good sticker.

505 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:36:12am
506 rednaxela  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:36:17am

Does anyone here have a Wikipedia account to put some things straight?

LLL modifications of the Sarah Palin Wikipedia page are in full swing over there, i.e. the box on the right alleges she was an AIP member, when the McCain campaign says she was not.

507 Dahveed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:36:27am

re: #490 StinkHammer

Something I've said since Palin was announced as veep candidate.

Nice of Laura to catch up.

;^)

Darn it! I forgot to mention that she credited StinkHammer. Apologies for not including that.

508 hans ze beeman  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:36:30am

Spengler: How Obama lost the election

Obama will spend the rest of his life wondering why he rejected the obvious road to victory, that is, choosing Hillary Clinton as his vice presidential nominee. However reluctantly, Clinton would have had to accept. McCain's choice of vice presidential candidate made obvious after the fact what the party professionals felt in their fingertips at the stadium extravaganza yesterday: rejecting Clinton in favor of the colorless, unpopular, tangle-tongued Washington perennial Joe Biden was a statement of weakness. McCain's selection was a statement of strength. America's voters will forgive many things in a politician, including sexual misconduct, but they will not forgive weakness.

That is why McCain will win in November, and by a landslide, barring some unforeseen event. Obama is the most talented and persuasive politician of his generation, the intellectual superior of all his competitors, but a fatally insecure personality. American voters are not intellectual, but they are shrewd, like animals. They can smell insecurity, and the convention stank of it. Obama's prospective defeat is entirely of its own making. No one is more surprised than Republican strategists, who were convinced just weeks ago that a weakening economy ensured a Democratic victory.

509 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:36:54am

re: #478 doppelganglander

Rush is currently discussing Campbell Brown's neanderthal comment, basically "How can she raise her family and be vice president?" I guess Campbell has never heard of nannies, housekeepers, and most importantly, dads.


didn't you know? Fatherhood is not looked upon by the liberals as a good thing.

510 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:37:03am

re: #492 alteredbeat

The rumor is Dkos user "arcxix" is David Axelrod. While it's just a rumor, it may explain why all that user's diaries are deleted.

Chicago political hack, and BHO adviser? No, the Obama campaign would never stoop that low.
/

511 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:37:19am

re: #496 Cygnus

"Governor Jesus Camp" is a bit funny, I gotta admit. She actually reads the Bible - oh, the horror!

I've got one open on my desk, at work, in plain view of non-religious co-workers, shoving my view down their throat!

Of course, I also have hanging my last target from the gun range, with a nice grouping. No one bothers me much.

512 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:37:44am

re: #470 kansas

Obama only breaks 50% (51% actually) if you include leaners. My gut feeling is that if Obama were going to win, he'd have it running away by now. Every Magic 8-Ball in town (no, that's not a drug reference) points to a huge year for Democrats, but he can't seal the deal. While he might squeak out a very narrow victory in November, I think the momentum is with McCain right now.

513 cblesz  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:37:54am

re: #470 kansas

Polls are showing Obama at 50%. Now with the MSM attacking 24/7 during the convention, any ideas on what is going to turn this around? Are we headed for Obama/Biden?

What poll is that? CBS news? Please. The polls are all over the place.

514 quickjustice  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:37:56am

re: #460 Peacekeeper

You're right of course, but his hypocrisy is so rank that he'll have trouble pulling it off.

515 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:38:06am
516 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:38:20am

re: #488 Peacekeeper

Doesn't Obama have a family too?

That's what Michelle says.

517 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:38:22am

re: #435 Racer X

Is that picture a photoshopped head of this image reversed?

Wow! Good catch! The head in the bikini picture is clearly the same face in the campaign picture, reversed left to right. You can see by her hair which has strands in exactly the same locations, a difficult trick to manage in a windy outdoor setting.

Now I'm heartbroken & will have to take down the bikini picture I printed out & pinned up on my wall :(

518 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:38:48am

BHO wanted to earmark more than $3 million for Biden's son?!

519 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:38:48am

re: #511 Silhouette

I've got one open on my desk, at work, in plain view of non-religious co-workers, shoving my view down their throat!

Of course, I also have hanging my last target from the gun range, with a nice grouping. No one bothers me much.

But if you worked in the UK & had a piggy bank on your desk, that would be offensive to the Religion of Peace & you'd be forced to remove it.

520 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:39:05am

re: #504 lifeofthemind

McCain needs a counter slogan. Like the motto of the Royal Tank Corps "Fear Naught." It would make a good sticker.


FEAR Ø

521 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:40:22am

Rush is taking the gloves off on Biden.

Key points include:
1. Biden's plagiarism charges kept him out of the White House in the past. What's different now?
2. Hunter (Biden's son) is the direct recipient of monies earmarked by Biden.
3. Obama pushed for 3.4 million in earmarks for Hunter as well.

Whoops. Wonder if the media thought there would be a backlash?

Bonus:
4. Obama earmarked a couple mill for his wife's company and then she got a raise.

Oops. Let's talk about families...

522 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:40:24am

re: #515 buzzsawmonkey

The increasingly-less-veiled statements by columnists and other talking heads that the US must elect Obama or face a race war is merely a genteel version of the uniformed storm trooper "helping" people vote at the polling place.

LIberal fascism with sneakers as jackboots

523 kynna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:40:41am

Rush now talking about Biden's indicted son.

This whole campaign is increasingly bizarre. That they just pretend Palin's not a governor (keep referring to her being a mayor). That they make a big deal about Bristol Palin and not the younger Biden's exploits (much more damaging BTW).

No wonder they want to shut the internet down. They have to turn themselves inside out with hysteria to make sure their 'message' gets out.

524 rednaxela  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:40:42am

re: #478 doppelganglander

I think the best point Rush made was the one about Biden. No one seemed to have worried about him raising to young boys while in the Senate.

525 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:40:47am

re: #515 buzzsawmonkey

If he's elected the left will scold whites with : " So Obama is President and racism is over? Is that what you think?"
If he loses it will be "America wasn't ready..." he will be a martyr.

526 Wishbone  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:41:09am

re: #520 jcm

How about a simple: "We'll F*** you up"

527 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:41:26am

re: #508 hans ze beeman

Hans! Long time no see! Thanks for posting Spengler's thoughts. I think he's right on the money.

528 Racer X  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:41:37am

re: #517 Kenneth

Wow! Good catch! The head in the bikini picture is clearly the same face in the campaign picture, reversed left to right. You can see by her hair which has strands in exactly the same locations, a difficult trick to manage in a windy outdoor setting.

Now I'm heartbroken & will have to take down the bikini picture I printed out & pinned up on my wall :(

Sarah actually has better legs than that.

It's OK if you keep that other picture if you like. ;-)

529 kansas  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:41:40am

re: #521 Noam Chumpski

Rush is taking the gloves off on Biden.

Key points include:
1. Biden's plagiarism charges kept him out of the White House in the past. What's different now?
2. Hunter (Biden's son) is the direct recipient of monies earmarked by Biden.
3. Obama pushed for 3.4 million in earmarks for Hunter as well.

Whoops. Wonder if the media thought there would be a backlash?

Bonus:
4. Obama earmarked a couple mill for his wife's company and then she got a raise.

Oops. Let's talk about families...

These points will be on MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, won't they? No?

530 WriterMom  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:41:50am

re: #520 jcm

Fear no O/ZERO

LOL

531 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:42:09am

re: #523 kynna

Rush now talking about Biden's indicted son.

This whole campaign is increasingly bizarre. That they just pretend Palin's not a governor (keep referring to her being a mayor). That they make a big deal about Bristol Palin and not the younger Biden's exploits (much more damaging BTW).

No wonder they want to shut the internet down. They have to turn themselves inside out with hysteria to make sure their 'message' gets out.

And the Biden son is an ADULT who is doing something illegal, there is nothing illegal about having a baby (yet)

532 BackwardsBoy  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:42:34am

re: #329 BackwardsBoy

Big Steve, I haven't found one yet, but if Michelle said it, she's usually right.

Steve, went surfing and found two links, not much there, but it's a start;

Free Republic

And...

American Spectator

533 Dahveed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:42:44am

re: #470 kansas

Polls are showing Obama at 50%. Now with the MSM attacking 24/7 during the convention, any ideas on what is going to turn this around? Are we headed for Obama/Biden?

I've noticed in some of the polls that when you look at the internal information, the pollsters tend to poll more people that identify themselves as Democrat rather than Republicans. In the last CBS poll Democrats polled totaled 310, Republicans totaled 247, and independents were 318. I have heard, perhaps on this site, that pollsters tend to do this because Republicans are more likely to vote than Democrats. i don't know if that's true, but I find it interesting that they avoid parity when it comes to polling.

534 WriterMom  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:42:56am

re: #523 kynna

shut the internet down

This is what makes them absolutely insane. They can't control the internet...

535 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:43:02am

re: #526 Wishbone

How about a simple: "We'll F*** you up"

That wouldn't be fair.... us bitter clingy types have all the guns.

536 Vergeltung  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:43:11am

re: #481 WriterMom

Sil...you would love this article in the Nationa Post today about Vancouver's new public school cirriculum. Lemme see if I can find it. Because of two gay activists a brand new gay and 'transgendered' friendly cirriculum is being introduced-two activists without any children in the public school system...

and I thank God everyday for parochial school! :)

537 Cygnus  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:43:19am

re: #253 jcm

There's a scooter "gang" that hangs around the UW in Seattle, this mob on scooters in goth dress. They try to pull off a "tough" attitude.... it doesn't work.

Do they ride in the Lake City Parade? You know, right behind the Seafair Pirates? I would die laughing if I saw that.

538 quickjustice  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:43:56am

Obama is a bastard child. His mother was 18 at the time. So why isn't every Democrat question being asked about Palin's daughter applicable in spades to Obama, his mother, and his father? And how is asking these questions about Palin and her daughter, and making this argument about illegitimacy, of any advantage to the Obama campaign?

The hypocrisy is rank, and getting ranker.

539 rednaxela  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:44:05am

re: #527 doppelganglander

Aside from the landslide. This thing will come down to 10 000 votes in some state or another.

540 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:44:18am

re: #524 rednaxela

I think the best point Rush made was the one about Biden. No one seemed to have worried about him raising to young boys while in the Senate.

That's right. His wife and infant daughter were killed in an accident when he was newly elected. Truly, those sexist comments are a slap in the face to any woman who has a career and children.

541 WriterMom  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:44:19am

re: #536 Vergeltung

Me too.

542 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:44:35am

re: #492 alteredbeat

The rumor is Dkos user "arcxix" is David Axelrod. While it's just a rumor, it may explain why all that user's diaries are deleted.

Very interesting. This could be very damaging, if it were proven true.

Anyone up for looking into it?

543 Wishbone  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:44:49am

re: #535 jcm

You can be as bitter and clingy as you want mate............ Who's gonna take 'em off you? :)

544 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:45:29am
545 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:45:58am

Those idiots on Kos are now saying to post a picture of the city hall in Wasilla.....make her look unqualified.

What about GOVERNOR OF ALASKA do they not understand?

546 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:46:12am

re: #533 Dahveed

I've noticed in some of the polls that when you look at the internal information, the pollsters tend to poll more people that identify themselves as Democrat rather than Republicans. In the last CBS poll Democrats polled totaled 310, Republicans totaled 247, and independents were 318. I have heard, perhaps on this site, that pollsters tend to do this because Republicans are more likely to vote than Democrats. i don't know if that's true, but I find it interesting that they avoid parity when it comes to polling.

Rassmussen bases their sampling percentage on questions asked over the previous 3 months, asking respondents their party identification. Here's from the latest poll:

Like all polling firms, Rasmussen Reports weights its data to reflect the population at large. Among other targets, Rasmussen Reports weights data by political party affiliation using a dynamic weighting process. Our baseline targets are established based upon survey interviews with a sample of adults nationwide completed during the preceding three months (a total of 45,000 interviews). For September, the targets are 39.7% Democrat, 32.1% Republican, and 28.2% unaffiliated (see party trends and analysis). For the month of August, the targets were 40.6% Democrat, 31.6% Republican, and 27.8% unaffiliated.
547 rednaxela  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:46:30am

re: #538 quickjustice

Admittedly, it was Obama himself who brought up the issue of his mom having been 18 when she had him. That was decent.

548 irish rose  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:46:49am

re: #538 quickjustice

Obama is a bastard child.

Quickjustice, I'm an adopted child and I was saddled with that painful label back in 1960 by some members of my Mothers' family... it was very painful.

Let's not go there, OK?

549 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:47:17am

re: #545 Typicalwhitey

Those idiots on Kos are now saying to post a picture of the city hall in Wasilla.....make her look unqualified.

What about GOVERNOR OF ALASKA do they not understand?

From now on, I'll not refer to Obama as a U.S. Senator - he's just a State Senator, AFAIC.

550 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:47:40am

re: #529 kansas

These points will be on MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, won't they? No?

No, but it is almost better that way. Gives it validity. Anyhting the media ignores becomes, like, "double true."

Active Conservatives and the Curious use radio and internet anyway. :)

551 irish rose  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:47:45am

/html challenged

552 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:47:45am

re: #533 Dahveed

The Biggest Missing Story in Politics

I have been tracking Question D3 for a long time, since June 2002, in thirteen straight Battleground Poll results. Americans respond to this question more consistently than to any other question in those thirteen Battleground Poll surveys. People many change their opinions dramatically about Iraq or President Bush or drilling for oil, but not their answer to Question D3.

[snip]

What is Question D3 and what were the results to Question D3 in the August 20, 2008 Battleground Poll? It is this:

"When thinking about politics and government, do you consider yourself to be...

Very conservative

Somewhat conservative

MODERATE

Somewhat liberal

Very liberal

UNSURE/REFUSED"

In August 2008, Americans answered that question this way:
(1) 20% of Americans considered themselves to be very conservative;
(2) 40% of Americans considered themselves to be somewhat conservative;
(3) 2% of Americans considered themselves to be moderate;
(4) 27% of Americans considered themselves to be somewhat liberal;
(5) 9% of Americans considered themselves to be very liberal; and
(6) 3% of Americans did not know or refused to answer.

553 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:47:56am

re: #549 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Community organizer.

554 WriterMom  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:47:57am

re: #542 Honorary Yooper

Look here...

555 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:47:58am

Obama: I am a fucking idiot.

Barack Obama contends that he is more experienced in executive matters than Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin because he has managed his presidential campaign for the past 18 months.

Speaking on a cable news channel Monday night, the Democratic presidential nominee said he is better prepared to handle a disaster like Hurricane Gustav because of his pursuit of the White House.

556 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:48:27am

re: #508 hans ze beeman

An even more obvious road to power for the Democrats would have been Hillary/Obama in 2008 & 2012, followed by a by-then very experienced Obama/whoever in 2016 & 2020. Instead, because of Obama's unbounded ego & over leaping ambition, the Dems have gambled it all on this year. It will be McCain/Palin in 2008, followed by Palin/whoever in 2012 & 2016.

The Democrats may well have lost their last chance for White House in a generation. Too bad, so sad.

557 Racer X  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:48:47am

re: #517 Kenneth

You can have the original too.

558 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:49:01am

re: #535 jcm

That wouldn't be fair.... us bitter clingy types have all the guns.

No, we don't. But most of us actually hit what we aim at.

559 WriterMom  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:49:12am

re: #555 Ward Cleaver

I heard someone on the radio (an "expert") say that because Obama has raised more money, and made better use of the internet to run his campaign-he is better qualified than Palin (not than McCain interestingly enough). Liberals really believe this.

560 wolfie  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:49:30am

The Left has many advantages in its struggle for domination.......control of MSM and education, for starters. But it has a key weakness in that leftists do not understand the enemy (the "bitter and clingy.")

This smear is not having and will not have the desired effect on the target audience that the left wants it to have. But it does ensure that many people who otherwise would not bother to turn the TV channel to the RNC will do so when Sarah Palin is scheduled to speak. There's nothing like a "sex scandal," even an absurdly contrived one, to get people's attention.

If I were a conspiracy theorist, I would say that Karl Rove and the Neocon Elders of Zion timed this all very well.
Bwaaahahahahahaaaaaaa............................. ..

561 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:49:33am

re: #348 Nevergiveup

After Senator Lieberman speaks tonight, it will be interesting to see who is hated more by the Democrats: The Senator or President Bush?

He is already hated by most of everyone in Connecticut, and was thrown under the bus by his former "good friend" Chris Dodd.

562 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:49:34am
563 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:49:34am

re: #545 Typicalwhitey

That's a post that neither Obama nor Biden can claim on their resumes. In fact, mayor and governor - executive positions - are absent from the Democratic party ticket - along with experience.

Obama can't begin to claim that his decision to run for President is what gives him executive experience, although he's trying. Badly.

564 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:49:55am

re: #545 Typicalwhitey

Those idiots on Kos are now saying to post a picture of the city hall in Wasilla.....make her look unqualified.

What about GOVERNOR OF ALASKA do they not understand?

They're intentionally ignoring that part, just to try to make her look unqualified.

565 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:50:02am

re: #533 Dahveed

I've noticed in some of the polls that when you look at the internal information, the pollsters tend to poll more people that identify themselves as Democrat rather than Republicans. In the last CBS poll Democrats polled totaled 310, Republicans totaled 247, and independents were 318. I have heard, perhaps on this site, that pollsters tend to do this because Republicans are more likely to vote than Democrats. i don't know if that's true, but I find it interesting that they avoid parity when it comes to polling.

Also, from personal observation, most republicans/conservatives I know wont give pollsters the time of day. Dems love to yak about the polls

566 jaunte  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:50:32am

re: #555 Ward Cleaver

Note that Obama continues to pretend Palin is simply Mayor of Wasilla, and not Governor of Alaska.

567 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:51:06am

re: #555 Ward Cleaver

Barack Obama contends that he is more experienced in executive matters than Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin because he has managed his presidential campaign for the past 18 months.

You are kidding me.

THAT is his presidential experience, that he has run for president?

Boy, is he used to getting things without earning them, or what?

568 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:51:59am

re: #555 Ward Cleaver

Obama: I am a fucking idiot.

My qualifications for the job is the fact I'm trying to get the job.

BRILLIANT!

/

569 Cygnus  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:52:00am

re: #376 rednaxela

Yeah, I didn't get that. Nagin really went over the top with his weather forecasting verbosity. And got it badly wrong too.

Better safe than sorry. He really screwed it up three years ago.

570 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:52:04am

I am wondering, maybe Palin's husband should invite several of the members of the MSM up to Alaska.................during bear migration season, and have them up for a campout. Now wouldn't that be fun............................

571 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:52:07am

re: #554 WriterMom

Look here...

I saw that after I commented. Interesting theory as well. Let's see how it pans out before proceeding on it.

/Who the hell is Charles Hartley?

572 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:52:15am

re: #567 Silhouette

Naw, he's used to baffling with BS, and not expecting anyone to call him on the carpet for it. That would be... as they say... racist.

573 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:52:15am

re: #561 smokefire

He is already hated by most of everyone in Connecticut, and was thrown under the bus by his former "good friend" Chris Dodd.

I drove thru Connecticut yesterday and I don't hate him. But I was getting the feeling Connecticut hated me. The minute we crossed from Rhode Island into Connecticut we hit a dead stop for 1 hour on I95.

574 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:52:21am

re: #544 taxfreekiller

So, Obama wants to compare himself to Sarah?

Someone do up a Obama photo shop in a bikini, say holding a ,,,
(fill in the blank). uh, like a P'diddy cd."

How about a red speedo with the hammer and sickle on it and holding a white flag.

575 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:52:24am

re: #538 quickjustice

Obama is a bastard child. His mother was 18 at the time. So why isn't every Democrat question being asked about Palin's daughter applicable in spades to Obama, his mother, and his father? And how is asking these questions about Palin and her daughter, and making this argument about illegitimacy, of any advantage to the Obama campaign?

The hypocrisy is rank, and getting ranker.

Oh, for fuck's sake. NO CHILD IS BORN A BASTARD NOR IS ANY CHILD BORN ILLEGITIMATE. The parents' behaviors have NO bearing on the child.

576 Racer X  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:52:28am

I AM qualified to be a nuclear engineer because that is the job I have been applying for all these years.

577 quickjustice  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:52:40am

re: #548 irish rose

I don't think we should be there either, but we seem to be getting dragged there by the opposition, don't we?

B/T/W, I don't hold illegitimacy against anyone, but Democrats seem to!

578 Macker  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:53:05am

re: #167 Ben Hur

What was Barry on when he was 17?


May not have been on anything, but he could have been learning how to do Jedi Mind Tricks.

579 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:53:20am

re: #563 lawhawk

That's
a post that neither Obama nor Biden can claim on their resumes. In
fact, mayor and governor - executive positions - are absent from the
Democratic party ticket - along with experience.

Obama can't
begin to claim that his decision to run for President is what gives him
executive experience, although he's trying. Badly.

On a related note, I can fly an F-16 because I've really wanted to for a long time. Plus, I've built a model of one, too! So I've got that going for me.

580 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:53:26am

re: #559 WriterMom

I heard someone on the radio (an "expert") say that because Obama has raised more money, and made better use of the internet to run his campaign-he is better qualified than Palin (not than McCain interestingly enough). Liberals really believe this.

"I am running for president, therefore I am qualified to be president." That makes alot of sense. If that's the case, then Harold Stassen was the most qualified candidate there ever was, by a wide margin.

581 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:53:28am

re: #548 irish rose

((((((irish rose))))))

582 Vergeltung  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:54:13am

re: #556 Kenneth

An even more obvious road to power for the Democrats would have been Hillary/Obama in 2008 & 2012, followed by a by-then very experienced Obama/whoever in 2016 & 2020. Instead, because of Obama's unbounded ego & over leaping ambition, the Dems have gambled it all on this year. It will be McCain/Palin in 2008, followed by Palin/whoever in 2012 & 2016.

The Democrats may well have lost their last chance for White House in a generation. Too bad, so sad.

I think that is it exactly! Hillary will come at us again though in 2012, if Obomber loses....

583 quickjustice  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:54:24am

re: #575 MandyManners

I agree, but that's not where the Democrats are going with this issue. I've read enough of your commentary to understand that you are thoroughly decent.

584 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:54:35am

re: #579 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

On a related note, I can fly an F-16 because I've really wanted to for a long time. Plus, I've built a model of one, too! So I've got that going for me.

I lived in california when I was 6 so I'm going for Governor next time. Thanks Obama for leading the way!

585 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:54:52am

re: #552 jcm

The Biggest Missing Story in Politics

Sixty per cent some stripe of conservative v. 36 some stripe of liberal?

586 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:54:55am

I'll repeat this again.

It is asinine to say Palin is not qualified because at one time, she was "only" a mayor.

At one time, Obama had never held any elected office. At one time, he couldn't read or write. At one time, he wasn't potty trained.

Since then, things have changed. Today, Palin is a governor and Obama is a senator.

587 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:55:00am

re: #575 MandyManners

Oh,
for fuck's sake. NO CHILD IS BORN A BASTARD NOR IS ANY CHILD BORN
ILLEGITIMATE. The parents' behaviors have NO bearing on the child.

I wasn't born a bastard, but I earned my bastard rating with a lot of hard work as a child!

588 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:55:07am

re: #573 Nevergiveup

I drove thru Connecticut yesterday and I don't hate him. But I was getting the feeling Connecticut hated me. The minute we crossed from Rhode Island into Connecticut we hit a dead stop for 1 hour on I95.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, stuck on the Foxwoods expressway again Neveragain?

Sort of like us old beachgoers that use to get stuck in Westerly, going to Misquamicut.

589 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:55:30am

re: #575 MandyManners

Oh, for fuck's sake. NO CHILD IS BORN A BASTARD NOR IS ANY CHILD BORN ILLEGITIMATE. The parents' behaviors have NO bearing on the child.

That's right. The child has no responsibility for how they were born.

590 kansas  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:55:33am

Someone post a picture of the City Hall where Obama was Mayor.

591 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:55:37am

re: #575 MandyManners

Oh, for fuck's sake. NO CHILD IS BORN A BASTARD NOR IS ANY CHILD BORN ILLEGITIMATE. The parents' behaviors have NO bearing on the child.

Absolutely and I detest the name calling, but you'd think Obama and the MSM would stay clear of this issue because of O and his yet uncounted siblings.

592 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:55:49am

re: #555 Ward Cleaver

Obama: I am a fucking idiot.

Just knowing FEMA's telephone number does not an experienced politiician make.

593 HDrepub  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:55:52am

re: #517 Kenneth

Wow! Good catch! The head in the bikini picture is clearly the same face in the campaign picture, reversed left to right. You can see by her hair which has strands in exactly the same locations, a difficult trick to manage in a windy outdoor setting.

Now I'm heartbroken & will have to take down the bikini picture I printed out & pinned up on my wall :(

I also noticed the skin tones of the face and neck don't match the rest of the photo, possibly indicating placement of the head on another torso.
Is Schlitz beer available in Alaska, since it appears the fellow in the background is holding a Schlitz?

594 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:56:04am

re: #590 kansas

Someone post a picture of the City Hall where Obama was Mayor.

See image below:

/crickets chirping....

595 Dahveed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:56:05am

re: #546 doppelganglander

I find this fascinating. Rasmussen polls likely voters and asks more Democrats in its polling, but Democrats are less likely to vote. I don't know if this will be the same this time around, but it still seems a little out of whack.

596 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:56:09am

re: #587 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I wasn't born a bastard, but I earned my bastard rating with a lot of hard work as a child!

SPWE

597 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:56:11am

re: #582 Vergeltung

The Return of Hildabeast vs Sarah Palin for President in 2012, another win for the GOP.

598 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:56:12am

re: #586 Silhouette

I'll repeat this again.

It is asinine to say Palin is not qualified because at one time, she was "only" a mayor.

At one time, Obama had never held any elected office. At one time, he couldn't read or write. At one time, he wasn't potty trained.

Since then, things have changed. Today, Palin is a governor and Obama is a senator.

You mean he's potty trained?

599 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:56:16am

re: #555 Ward Cleaver

Obama: I am a fucking idiot.

Obama's got experience for the White House from his campaign organizing, like a neophyte programmer has experience for creating a Windows Hardware Driver after doing a "Hello World" programming tutorial.

What the hell is it with Obama and organizing anyway? Maybe he can help me organize my garage when he gets done with this campaign.

600 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:56:39am
601 X-ray  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:56:47am

re: #560 wolfie

The Left has many advantages in its struggle for domination.......control of MSM and education, for starters. But it has a key weakness in that leftists do not understand the enemy (the "bitter and clingy.")

This smear is not having and will not have the desired effect on the target audience that the left wants it to have. But it does ensure that many people who otherwise would not bother to turn the TV channel to the RNC will do so when Sarah Palin is scheduled to speak. There's nothing like a "sex scandal," even an absurdly contrived one, to get people's attention.

If I were a conspiracy theorist, I would say that Karl Rove and the Neocon Elders of Zion timed this all very well.
Bwaaahahahahahaaaaaaa................... ............

I had a similar thought. There are 2 basic groups of voters.

One votes on ideology (and sticks with a party for the most part) and the other votes on the American Idol theory. The American idol voter will cast their vote purely on who will make the most interesting soap opera for them to watch over the next 4 years.

602 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:57:00am

re: #559 WriterMom

I heard someone on the radio (an "expert") say that because Obama has raised more money, and made better use of the internet to run his campaign-he is better qualified than Palin (not than McCain interestingly enough). Liberals really believe this.

I reckon that idiot doesn't know about the problems with BHO's blog.

603 quickjustice  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:57:27am

re: #561 smokefire

Please explain, if Lieberman is so "hated" in Connecticut, how the people of Connecticut came to elect him as an independent?

604 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:57:43am

Here is a little something in reference to Barry's "qualifications"

How far can you coast on charm? Pretty far actually.

605 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:57:46am

re: #584 Noam Chumpski

I lived in california when I was 6 so I'm going for Governor next time. Thanks Obama for leading the way!

I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night!

/

606 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:57:46am

re: #599 CyanSnowHawk

Obama's got experience for the White House from his campaign organizing, like a neophyte programmer has experience for creating a Windows Hardware Driver after doing a "Hello World" programming tutorial.

What the hell is it with Obama and organizing anyway? Maybe he can help me organize my garage when he gets done with this campaign.

This is double-dumb of Obama:

Now that Palin is running for VP she is now EQUAL to him in experience.

Great stance Obama.

607 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:57:56am

re: #566 jaunte

Note that Obama continues to pretend Palin is simply Mayor of Wasilla, and not Governor of Alaska.

Hewitt was pointing out in some ways being mayor of a small town is a very tough job. Everyone knows you, to get things done you got to be able to tell friends NO, and still keep their support. She used those skills at the State level and has 80% support. His main point is those skills are scalable, and she shows every sign of learning very, very fast.

608 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:57:56am

re: #548 irish rose

I'm adopted too (1962). I'm sorry your mother's family was so ugly about it. Both sides of my adoptive family only mentioned my adoption to stress how lucky I was to be chosen and how happy they were that I had been.

609 irish rose  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:58:05am

re: #577 quickjustice

I don't think we should be there either, but we seem to be getting dragged there by the opposition, don't we?

"Going there" is a choice... and I choose not to.

610 Vergeltung  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:58:27am

re: #597 Kenneth

The Return of Hildabeast vs Sarah Palin for President in 2012, another win for the GOP.

I agree to a point, but much of that would depend upon how the next 4 years go....

611 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:58:32am

Hmmm.. at least someone in the media is trying to figure out Obama's background.

He graduated from Columbia U, but without honors. Maybe that has something to do with affirmative action.

Hey, his grades could be great or suck. Doesn't matter to me. But he's been pretty secretive about certain parts of his past. Like he has stuff to hide.

Of course, the real issue is that his policies today are stock and trade socialism. Not what this great nation needs now or ever.

612 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:58:36am

"I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV."

613 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:58:42am

re: #605 Ward Cleaver

I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night!

/

That means you are qualified to be CEO! Congratulations, man!

614 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:58:48am

re: #600 buzzsawmonkey

I don't--I really don't--think I want to see a pic of the sickle curved lovingly around his package.

*wiping coffee off new keyboard...damn*

615 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:59:01am

re: #603 quickjustice

When the choice was a no name Republican, and millionaire Ned Lamont, Arnold the Pig could have won the election.

616 SpartanWoman  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:59:04am

re: #603 quickjustice

Please explain, if Lieberman is so "hated" in Connecticut, how the people of Connecticut came to elect him as an independent?

He's only hated by the Dem party apparatus in Connecticut and to the MSM that is all that matters

617 quickjustice  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:59:18am

re: #587 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And I'll also lay claim to the title, although you may lay claim to "bastard in chief"! ;-)

618 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:59:26am

re: #559 WriterMom

I heard someone on the radio (an "expert") say that because Obama has raised more money, and made better use of the internet to run his campaign-he is better qualified than Palin (not than McCain interestingly enough). Liberals really believe this.

Except that real internet experts slam Obama on his supposed "good use of the Internet." When Charles first started exposing the crap on The One's website an ad rapidly appeared in the Boston papers hunting frantically for a web developer for the site. It caused a great deal of amusement among my daughter's crowd - high paid techies all - but not one of them thought of applying for the job because they did not want their names associated with the disaster. And then there is the issue of keywording ad buys. McCain has an expert internet marketer (probably courtesy of Meg Whitman, who has forgotten more marketing that most ever know) doing his ad targeting for him. Obama does not know what that means. Which is one of the reasons that even though during July Obama spent more on a single ad than McCain spent for the entire campaign, they ended the month in a statistical tie.

619 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:59:26am

re: #608 doppelganglander

I'm adopted too (1962). I'm sorry your mother's family was so ugly about it. Both sides of my adoptive family only mentioned my adoption to stress how lucky I was to be chosen and how happy they were that I had been.

Amen! You were chosen.

620 irish rose  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:59:33am

re: #581 MandyManners

((((((irish rose))))))

Thanks, Mandy.

621 vapig  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:59:59am

re: #451 Silhouette

The sound you hear is a million voices of leftists screaming in terror.

I have actually seen "educators" roll their eyes and look at each other in amusment that my husband and I thought we know better than they what is good for our child. We walked out and went straight to sign them up for private school.

Good for you! At leaset now you'll know they are being given an education rather than an indoctrination.

622 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:00:02am

re: #600 buzzsawmonkey

I don't--I really don't--think I want to see a pic of the sickle curved lovingly around his package.

GAH! Brain bleach!

623 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:00:07am

re: #583 quickjustice

I agree, but that's not where the Democrats are going with this issue. I've read enough of your commentary to understand that you are thoroughly decent.

*blink*

Okay.

It's just that this issue really pisses me off. It strikes me at a visceral level, and I don't know why. Well, the thing about sins of the fathers and all that.

624 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:00:18am

re: #588 smokefire

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, stuck on the Foxwoods expressway again Neveragain?

Sort of like us old beachgoers that use to get stuck in Westerly, going to Misquamicut.

Coming back from URI. How do you avoid I95 if you have to cross the bridge at New London?

625 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:00:24am

re: #616 SpartanWoman

Thank you Spartan

626 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:00:27am

re: #585 MandyManners

Sixty per cent some stripe of conservative v. 36 some stripe of liberal?

That's why Reagan won. Running conservative, positive, optomistic conservative WINS! Not the watered down, conservatism aimed at appealing to the center, but the real deal.

Sarah Palin's the real deal. She'll lock up most of that 60%.

627 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:01:01am

re: #612 Ward Cleaver

"I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV."

"I'm not a qualified candidate for the Presidency of The United States, but I play one in real life."

628 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:01:06am
We will try and shadiw them,

/indded

629 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:01:06am

re: #600 buzzsawmonkey

I don't--I really don't--think I want to see a pic of the sickle curved lovingly around his package.

It would be a small sickle.

Ooops...did I say that out loud?

630 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:01:23am

re: #606 Noam Chumpski

This is double-dumb of Obama:

Now that Palin is running for VP she is now EQUAL to him in experience.

Great stance Obama.

I had noticed that. I keep snickering every time I see a reference to it.

631 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:01:55am

re: #559 WriterMom

I heard someone on the radio (an "expert") say that because Obama has raised more money, and made better use of the internet to run his campaign-he is better qualified than Palin (not than McCain interestingly enough). Liberals really believe this.

And I bet it impresses the Hell out of Putin?

632 Macker  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:02:03am

re: #589 Ward Cleaver

That's right. The child has no responsibility for how they were born.

That said, Obama's still a bastard!

633 lostlakehiker  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:02:09am

re: #21 Honorary Yooper

I mentioned it in the dead thread, but the Chicago Tribune's John Kass has some things to say about this dipstick of a Daily Kos blogger:

Way to stay classy, Markos. First have this guy (ArcXIX) post this toilet nugget, and then delete it so you have plausible deniability.

Well, plausible deniability is a thing of the past. With Google cache etc., there is no refuge for these scoundrels. They lie, just be-Kos, and then when caught at it, they put their chocolate-smeared hands in their pockets, messily lick a little off their face, and think Mother doesn't know they've been in the cookie jar.

Quietly taking a post down is not the honorable way to retract a smear when it fails to gain traction. Come to think of it, just what is the honorable way to retract a lying, anonymous smear aimed at a 17-year-old girl noncombatant?

635 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:02:25am

re: #603 quickjustice

Please explain, if Lieberman is so "hated" in Connecticut, how the people of Connecticut came to elect him as an independent?

He is only hated by the liberal Dem's in the state for not excepting their pick as Democratic candidate for his seat in the Senate.

636 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:02:33am

re: #626 jcm

That's why Reagan won. Running conservative, positive, optomistic conservative WINS! Not the watered down, conservatism aimed at appealing to the center, but the real deal.

Sarah Palin's the real deal. She'll lock up most of that 60%.

Heck, running as a positive can get you the win.

I can only think back to the cold menacing jaw clinch Michelle gave Mrs. Clinton during her speech. That campaign has signage that reads Hope, but there's no Hope to be had.

Campaigns like that don't win.... usually.

637 Billy Hank  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:02:33am

re: #60 slotgun

Agree. Looks the NYT will be giving Bristol the Abu Grahib treatment, all front page all the time until the election. Only 63 days to go, although the NYT may cut it back to only one front page story per day.

638 kansas  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:02:56am

re: #594 Noam Chumpski

See image below:

/crickets chirping....

Hey, actually someone should run some pictures of opponents Obama has run against. Didn't they all quit or get whacked?

639 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:02:59am

re: #549 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

From now on, I'll not refer to Obama as a U.S. Senator - he's just a State Senator, AFAIC.

Or "ganga-smoking beachcomber Obama".

640 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:03:05am

re: #595 Dahveed

I find this fascinating. Rasmussen polls likely voters and asks more Democrats in its polling, but Democrats are less likely to vote. I don't know if this will be the same this time around, but it still seems a little out of whack.

I generally prefer Rassmussen because they do poll likely voters. IIRC, "likely" is defined has having voted in the previous general election. Of course, that runs the risk of undercounting young voters (who probably won't show up anyway), or casual voters (who may or may not be motivated to roll themselves out of bed on Election Day).

I also wonder about their polling in states that do not require you to register to a party. I live in Georgia, and as far as I remember I didn't express a preference on my registration (that was 16 years ago, though). We also have open primaries. I suspect a lot of people identify themselves by a party just because that's what their family is, like people who say they're Catholic but haven't been to Mass since their confirmation.

641 cblesz  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:03:17am

Anyone know if kurtz is still digging?

642 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:03:25am

More drive by hate.
[Link: my.earthlink.net...]

643 quickjustice  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:03:26am

re: #609 irish rose

Solidarity forever! ;-) (And I apologize for hurting you.)

644 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:03:31am

re: #626 jcm

That's why Reagan won. Running conservative, positive, optomistic conservative WINS! Not the watered down, conservatism aimed at appealing to the center, but the real deal.

It kinda reminds me of churches. "They say", whoever they are, that the churches should tone it down a bit to appeal to more people. Yet it is the unapologetic churches that are growing.

645 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:03:37am

re: #589 Ward Cleaver

That's right. The child has no responsibility for how they were born.

"I didn't ASK to be born"--that favorite of teenagers in the midst of existential angst--is quite true.

646 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:03:39am

re: #594 Noam Chumpski
What about a picture of the community he organized?

647 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:04:00am

re: #632 Macker

That said, Obama's still a bastard!

A sorry bastard!

648 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:04:08am
649 VMA211Dan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:04:13am

I just checked the polls at realclear and todays 5 polls have Obama with a 6 to 9 point lead. I am very disheartened. We should have a big bump with Sarah. Give me some encouragement because I really want her to become the future of our party.

650 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:04:32am

re: #590 kansas

Someone post a picture of the City Hall where Obama was Mayor.

Better yet, a photograph of the corner where he useta' get his cocaine.

651 jester6  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:04:51am

re: #565 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Also, from personal observation, most republicans/conservatives I know wont give pollsters the time of day. Dems love to yak about the polls

I cannot count the times I have been called an ignorant bigot by tolerant lefties. I suspect most thoughtful conservatives who would otherwise like to talk politics feel the same way.

652 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:04:54am

re: #634 Ben Hur

Progressives Passing Around Fake Palin Bikini Pic, Gloating About Inexperience And "Patriotic Valley Trash"

HERE IS THE REAL PICTURE

Palin probably has a better figure.

There's only one way to settle this - Governor Palin must pose for a few photos in a bikini & a rifle.
/line forms behind me.

653 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:05:02am

re: #644 Silhouette

It kinda reminds me of churches. "They say", whoever they are, that the churches should tone it down a bit to appeal to more people. Yet it is the unapologetic churches that are growing.

The ones that have gone all wishy-washy are withering.

654 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:05:08am

Over at barackobama.com, they are working feverishly to cleanse the site of the more grotesque posts about the Palin pregnancy matter.

You can see many of the purged posts via cache links here:

[Link: www.google.com...]

Interesting that the Obama campaign let this fester all weekend and decided to purge the posts today.

655 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:05:12am

re: #591 SpartanWoman

Absolutely and I detest the name calling, but you'd think Obama and the MSM would stay clear of this issue because of O and his yet uncounted siblings.

I think they lack the ability to appreciate irony.

656 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:05:42am

re: #638 kansas

Hey, actually someone should run some pictures of opponents Obama has run against. Didn't they all quit or get whacked?

I've written it before, but:

You gotta wonder how a kid from out of town could rise up so fast in Political community that is so tight knit and corrupt.

Hm? to do that you gotta make some promises for future favors. That's how it works even on the up and up. Wonder what that man has promised?

657 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:05:48am

re: #624 Nevergiveup

OK, go north on RT-12 to Mohegan-Pequot Bridge, take bridge, then pick up I-395 heading towards NY..............

OR, leave URI campus, in North Kingston, head up rt 138 through, Hope Valley, RI, into CT. Follow 138 all the way to Griswold, CT. and pick up I-395 there, and head south. It is a little out of the way, but you miss New London altogether, and I-395 joins with I-95 South of New London

658 irish rose  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:06:26am

re: #643 quickjustice

Solidarity forever! ;-) (And I apologize for hurting you.)

Quite all right, how could you possibly know?

659 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:06:32am

re: #624 Nevergiveup

Coming back from URI. How do you avoid I95 if you have to cross the bridge at New London?

Try one of these.

660 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:06:45am

re: #637 Billy Hank

Agree. Looks the NYT will be giving Bristol the Abu Grahib treatment, all front page all the time until the election. Only 63 days to go, although the NYT may cut it back to only one front page story per day.

In which case we should make sure that Bristol gets lots of messages of love, support and baby gifts.

661 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:07:08am

re: #600 buzzsawmonkey

I don't--I really don't--think I want to see a pic of the sickle curved lovingly around his package.

*thud*

662 Cygnus  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:07:11am

re: #453 SpringheelJack

re: Obama selling/providing cocaine: Larry Sinclair seems to be the biggest and most recent source of this allegation (along with Obama practicing gay sex)


Sounds like BS to me. This guy is a real nutjob.

663 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:07:26am

re: #656 Noam Chumpski

I've written it before, but:

You gotta wonder how a kid from out of town could rise up so fast in Political community that is so tight knit and corrupt.

Hm? to do that you gotta make some promises for future favors. That's how it works even on the up and up. Wonder what that man has promised?

It isn't who you know. It is what you know.

664 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:07:52am

re: #646 newsjunkie_ky

What about a picture of the community he organized?

One sec....

OK. Here it be:

[Link: upload.wikimedia.org...]

665 Macker  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:08:00am

re: #591 SpartanWoman

Absolutely and I detest the name calling, but you'd think Obama and the MSM would stay clear of this issue because of O and his yet uncounted siblings.

Obama's Papa Was A Rolling Stone, eh?

666 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:08:09am

re: #659 Ford_Prefect

That was cold man, really cold.

667 lostlakehiker  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:08:22am

re: #559 WriterMom

I heard someone on the radio (an "expert") say that because Obama has raised more money, and made better use of the internet to run his campaign-he is better qualified than Palin (not than McCain interestingly enough). Liberals really believe this.

It's a bit of a qualification. If a man has no brains and no nerve, he cannot even ride out the rough and tumble of a primary campaign. It's not smart to underestimate Obama. He prevailed in that contest when all the received wisdom said he had no chance. That doesn't make him better qualified than Palin; he still has only that tidbit of executive experience that running his own primary campaign gave him, and she has years in city government and then as Alaska governor. He ran a difficult presidential nomination contest, but she pulled off an upset to become governor. Still, if her experience is sufficient for the vice-presidency, so is his. Being in the Senate has to count for a little something. Let's grant it: if experience is the only issue, then Palin and Obama both make the grade, but not with a lot of room to spare. Now, what about the wisdom or folly of the policies they promise to put into effect?

668 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:08:25am

re: #657 smokefire

Thanks. just printed it out and will use it next time if there is a problem.

669 jester6  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:08:30am

re: #634 Ben Hur

Progressives Passing Around Fake Palin Bikini Pic, Gloating About Inexperience And "Patriotic Valley Trash"

HERE IS THE REAL PICTURE

Palin probably has a better figure.

Hey, I know a lot of 44 year old women that would kill - well at least maim - for that figure.

670 Racer X  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:08:30am

re: #660 galloping granny

In which case we should make sure that Bristol gets lots of messages of love, support and baby gifts.

You are so sweet! Excellent idea.

671 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:08:44am

re: #618 galloping granny

Except that real internet experts slam Obama on his supposed "good use of the Internet." When Charles first started exposing the crap on The One's website an ad rapidly appeared in the Boston papers hunting frantically for a web developer for the site. It caused a great deal of amusement among my daughter's crowd - high paid techies all - but not one of them thought of applying for the job because they did not want their names associated with the disaster. And then there is the issue of keywording ad buys. McCain has an expert internet marketer (probably courtesy of Meg Whitman, who has forgotten more marketing that most ever know) doing his ad targeting for him. Obama does not know what that means. Which is one of the reasons that even though during July Obama spent more on a single ad than McCain spent for the entire campaign, they ended the month in a statistical tie.

Did you notice how quickly Sen. McCain's people got that Web site for donations up and running this weekend?

672 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:08:44am

re: #664 Noam Chumpski

One sec....

OK. Here it be:

[Link: upload.wikimedia.org...]

Hey, Cabrini Green didn't look like that.

673 BrianA  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:08:54am

re: #634 Ben Hur

That's a democrat weapon. .177 BB/pelet gun.

Palin's more likely to be sporting a M-16 or maybe a .300 Win mag.

674 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:09:13am

re: #620 irish rose

Thanks, Mandy.

You're welcome!

676 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:09:19am

re: #610 Vergeltung

I agree to a point, but much of that would depend upon how the next 4 years go....

I'm expecting an unseemly meltdown by Obama & his supporters followed by a fine McCain presidency in which he successfully faces the challenges of Iran & the final defeat of Al Qaeda in Pakistan. Palin will impress Americans with her grit & charm. She's already proven to be a quick learner & will lead the GOP ticket in 2012. Obama will campaign again on getting out of Iraq, which the US will have already withdrawn from. Retired president George W. Bush will visit Baghdad for the unveiling of the Statue of Iraqi Liberty, dedicated to him by the Iraqi people.

677 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:10:08am

re: #659 Ford_Prefect

Try one of these.

Trouble is you might run into a nuclear powered sub crossing at New London. And the base is still there thanks to Joe Lieberman!

678 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:10:22am

re: #626 jcm

That's why Reagan won. Running conservative, positive, optomistic conservative WINS! Not the watered down, conservatism aimed at appealing to the center, but the real deal.

Sarah Palin's the real deal. She'll lock up most of that 60%.

I get a bounce in my step just thinking about the ticket.

679 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:10:44am

Is this an Obama page?
[Link: www.mererhetoric.com...]

680 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:10:52am

re: #629 Ford_Prefect

It would be a small sickle.

Ooops...did I say that out loud?

No wonder WAB scowls all the time.

681 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:11:10am

re: #672 Perplexed

Hey, Cabrini Green didn't look like that.

No joke. This one is for real.

Obama. Community Organizer®:

[Link: www.technovelgy.com...]

682 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:11:18am

re: #666 smokefire

That was cold man, really cold.

Sorry. Lifelong CT resident. Backups on I-95 are pretty much an excepted fact of life here.

683 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:11:40am

re: #632 Macker

That said, Obama's still a bastard!

That's because he's earned it on his own.

684 Dahveed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:12:23am

re: #649 VMA211Dan

Right after a convention the candidate tends to get a bump. The difference in this one is that the bump is usually much larger. Somewhere along the lines of double digits. Obama got only 5 or 7 points. Also, McCain raked in $47 million and approximately $10 million was after the palin announcement. I think Palin has brought a much needed enthusiasm, but it was Labor Day weekend so the message didn't have a large audience.

685 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:12:30am

re: #634 Ben Hur

Progressives Passing Around Fake Palin Bikini Pic, Gloating About Inexperience And "Patriotic Valley Trash"

HERE IS THE REAL PICTURE

Palin probably has a better figure.

I'll bet she does, too. That's the lamest thing I've seen since the PShopped picture of Michelle Malkin "in a bikini".

686 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:12:43am

re: #612 Ward Cleaver

"I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV."

wait! I didn't know the Bev's dad was a doctor?
/

687 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:12:52am

re: #611 lawhawk

I'm glad someone is at least looking. Here's an article on the Occidental College website bragging about his time there. Fun Fact -- Jack Kemp graduated from Oxy.

688 Rancher  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:13:13am

Well Charles' posts disappear all the time too.

/Don't they?

689 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:13:17am

re: #682 Ford_Prefect

Sorry. Lifelong CT resident. Backups on I-95 are pretty much an excepted fact of life here.

I have been going uo and back to URI for 4 years now. This was the worst. Still don't really know why. It opened up 10 miles north of Groton?

690 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:13:21am

re: #668 Nevergiveup

I would recomend the 2nd one. If you hit 95 from campus, you are at the mercy of the highway, but if you take the back road Rt-138 from campus, you will miss the highway altogether, until you hit Griswold/Jewett City and I-395. It's not a bad ride, but make sure you use the john before yo leave or you may have to use the woods. There is not much there after you go through Hope Valley, except lots of trees, and small towns with people who cling to their guns and bibles..............LOL.

Glad I could help.

691 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:13:50am
692 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:14:12am

re: #646 newsjunkie_ky

What about a picture of the community he organized?

I'd like to ses photographs of the buildings Rezko didn't repair.

693 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:14:20am

re: #611 lawhawk

Hmmm.. at least someone in the media is trying to figure out Obama's background.

He graduated from Columbia U, but without honors. Maybe that has something to do with affirmative action.

My questions are:
1. How did a mediocre loser at a place like Occidental College get into Columbia University?
2. How did a very undistinguished student who was at Columbia for 2 years followed by a non-job like Community Organizing get into Harvard Law?
3. How did a student who never published anything get to be Editor of the Law Review?

694 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:14:42am

re: #570 smokefire

I am wondering, maybe Palin's husband should invite several of the members of the MSM up to Alaska.................during bear migration season, and have them up for a campout. Now wouldn't that be fun............................

Yeah, the first thing they should learn is how to separate the cubs from the mama bear using a long stick.

695 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:14:48am

re: #677 Nevergiveup

Trouble is you might run into a nuclear powered sub crossing at New London. And the base is still there thanks to Joe Lieberman!

Good point. :-)

696 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:15:10am

re: #682 Ford_Prefect

You don't have to tell me that. Lived in Groton, North Stonington, Norwich, and now up in the Quiet Corner..........

As they say, been there done that

697 midwestgak  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:15:18am

re: #678 MandyManners

I get a bounce in my step just thinking about the ticket.

I donated after she was added to the ticket. Due to the amount of money that was raised, so did many others. $10 Mil in just three days after the announcement. $45 Mil was raised in all of August.

McCain/Palin '08

God still loves America (and Israel)

698 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:15:30am

re: #671 MandyManners

Did you notice how quickly Sen. McCain's people got that Web site for donations up and running this weekend?

No, I haven't seen it. Got link?

699 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:15:36am

OT - Jerry Reed has died.

700 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:15:52am

re: #693 lifeofthemind

He graduated Magna cum laude, which is a pretty impressive thing. How he got into law school is one thing, but he certainly appears to have done well there. Survived and thrived.

701 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:16:06am

re: #692 MandyManners

I'd like to ses photographs of the buildings Rezko didn't repair.

Link from Norm

702 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:16:15am

re: #686 Beach Lover

wait! I didn't know the Bev's dad was a doctor?
/

That was Donna Reed's husband. ;-)

703 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:16:40am

re: #680 MandyManners

No wonder WAB scowls all the time.

Ummm...I was told size doesn't matter.

I mean that's what a friend of mine was told.

704 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:16:44am

re: #694 Son of the Black Dog

Sick very sick...............I like it though.

705 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:16:53am

re: #701 Perplexed

Link from Norm

Noam.... Noam...


lol

706 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:16:53am

re: #699 Silhouette

OT - Jerry Reed has died.

Oh bummer. First Don LaFontaine, now Jerry Reed. Who will be the third?

707 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:16:57am

re: #664 Noam Chumpski

One sec....

OK. Here it be:

[Link: upload.wikimedia.org...]

LOL!

708 alegrias  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:17:26am

It's been shocking how the mask has fallen off, to hear how anti-baby and anti-choice people are in the media and in general.

I'm shocked at the hypocrisy.

People who object to Big Brother knowing their "business" all of a sudden have a lot to say about one teenager's situation and what it means for the Free World--it's the end of "freedom" as women know it, etcetera.

Who is that windbag Hillary Rosen anyway, bashing a teenager on behalf of democrats? So much hateful misogyny is being spouted by liberal women who pretend to be most concerned about women.

I'm revolted by democrats and liberals attacking a teenager as a surrogate for John McCain and Sarah Palin.

709 SpringheelJack  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:17:26am

re: #248 buzzsawmonkey


Palin is the "log cabin" candidate; the person of relatively ordinary background who grew up in the closest thing we still have to a wilderness, made good, and did so without the assistance of the elite school power structure and network.


The "log cabin" comparison is particularly appropriate when dealing with people who carp about her lack of experience.
What would they think of a Presidential nominee whose total federal governmental experience was one term in the House of Representatives? That nominee, of course, was Abraham Lincoln

710 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:18:05am

re: #689 Nevergiveup

I have been going uo and back to URI for 4 years now. This was the worst. Still don't really know why. It opened up 10 miles north of Groton?

In that case it may very well have been the casino traffic. That would be my bet anyway. (rimshot)

711 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:18:09am

re: #654 karmic_inquisitor

And interrupt their weekends? And their barbeques?

Why, that would mean they were working, not having fun!

712 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:19:35am
713 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:19:35am

re: #699 Silhouette

RIP Jerry................

714 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:20:00am
715 Rancher  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:20:26am

re: #634 Ben Hur

Looks like there may be some copyright issues that could be pursued. The original photographer may object to this.

716 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:21:37am

Rush is bringing up something that I had heard over the weekend a couple times from the MSM talking heads....one of which was Andrea Mitchell. she said something to the effect...Palin will be appealing to the "uneducated, middle class women"!

I was boiling mad!
>:-{

717 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:23:14am

re: #716 Beach Lover

Saw Mary Matland, and Andrea Mitchell, if either one of them gets another face lift, they will have beards. God thems some UGLY bitches

719 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:24:14am

re: #716 Beach Lover

Rush is bringing up something that I had heard over the weekend a couple times from the MSM talking heads....one of which was Andrea Mitchell. she said something to the effect...Palin will be appealing to the "uneducated, middle class women"!

I was boiling mad!
>:-{

I like uneducated woman alot more than scrawny arrogant white women. But that's just me.

720 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:24:16am

re: #712 lifeofthemind

Good, thought that was fake.


Obama's official campaign logo on the mail that it was sent out with.

721 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:24:18am

re: #657 smokefire

Remember getting great meals at the Griswald Inn.

722 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:24:30am
723 kuffar  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:25:00am

re: #634 Ben Hur

Funny, that is an air rifle. If the media uses it, send it to the MSM.

724 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:25:04am
725 wolfie  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:25:16am

re: #699 Silhouette

OT - Jerry Reed has died.

May he rest in peace.
A true entertainer who spread a lot of joy.

726 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:25:20am

re: #716 Beach Lover

Rush is bringing up something that I had heard over the weekend a couple times from the MSM talking heads....one of which was Andrea Mitchell. she said something to the effect...Palin will be appealing to the "uneducated, middle class women"!

I was boiling mad!
>:-{


Says a lot about a person that they would even think that let alone allow it to escape their mouth. Jeesh....

727 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:25:30am

[Link: www.causegreater.com...]

I read somewhere that Cindy McCain paid for this out of her own pocket.

728 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:26:02am

re: #717 smokefire

Saw Mary Matland, and Andrea Mitchell, if either one of them gets another face lift, they will have beards. God thems some UGLY bitches

Mary is OK...she was Cheney's advisor. But Mitchell is uglier on the inside than on the outside.

729 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:26:02am

re: #716 Beach Lover

It doesn't take much to uncover their disdain for Americans. Oh, they can tolerate the few that "aren't like that", who sit around with them and discuss how they agree that America is terribly flawed. But any average American is to be looked down on, ruled (because they know better what is good for them), ignored (fly-over country), or villified.

730 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:26:20am

re: #705 Noam Chumpski

Noam.... Noam...


lol

Damn fingers rebelling again.....

731 kuffar  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:26:34am

There are rumors that the Clinton, Hill and Bill, are going to tell the DNC to go F off and officially vet and endorse Palin.

732 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:26:57am

In other news, Tiger Woods has been keeping busy:

Tiger Woods' Wife Pregnant With Their Second Child

733 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:27:04am

re: #727 MandyManners

[Link: www.causegreater.com...]

I read somewhere that Cindy McCain paid for this out of her own pocket.

A keg here, A keg there. She'll be OK.

734 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:27:09am

re: #723 kuffar

Funny, that is an air rifle. If the media uses it, send it to the MSM.

They'll declare it a Fully Automatic Assault rifle capable of firing 8,000 rounds per second as well.

735 Racer X  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:27:26am

re: #718 Typicalwhitey

Are they going to run her out of the race?

They wish!

Geez I thought James Carville was going to cry he is so pissed off. You would think the left would be very happy, like the right when Barry did not pick Hillary and went with Biden.

736 kuffar  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:27:37am

re: #732 Ward Cleaver

Should've got an abortion.

/Obama

737 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:27:39am

re: #718 Typicalwhitey

Are they going to run her out of the race?

Nope. Not even close.

738 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:28:15am

re: #721 lifeofthemind

Remember getting great meals at the Griswald Inn.

OOPS, Wrong Griswold, friend.

Griswold Inn is in Essex, CT, on the Connecticut River. Griswold Ct. is small town in New London County, off Interstate 395, North of Norwich, Ct.

739 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:28:24am

re: #730 Perplexed

Damn fingers rebelling again.....

You misspell my pen name again and I'll.... prolly laugh again.

740 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:28:38am

re: #732 Ward Cleaver

In other news, Tiger Woods has been keeping busy:

Tiger Woods' Wife Pregnant With Their Second Child

Punished with another child. Don't they realize what this does to their carbon footprint?

Seriously, does anybody not like Tiger?

741 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:28:58am

re: #731 kuffar

There are rumors that the Clinton, Hill and Bill, are going to tell the DNC to go F off and officially vet and endorse Palin.

I'd like to see that. Sounds like a headline from the Weekly World News.

/home of batboy

742 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:29:11am

re: #731 kuffar

There are rumors that the Clinton, Hill and Bill, are going to tell the DNC to go F off and officially vet and endorse Palin.

Now that would be something.

743 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:29:36am

re: #740 Silhouette

Punished with another child. Don't they realize what this does to their carbon footprint?

Seriously, does anybody not like Tiger?

Probably the other golfers that he plays against.

744 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:29:40am

Jerry Reed.

745 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:30:05am

re: #736 kuffar

Should've got an abortion.

/Obama

Punished with a baby!

/i can't write it like he said it

746 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:30:10am

re: #732 Ward Cleaver

That's nice. I'm trying to find more information on a major gas leak here (SW Chicagoland) that is shutting down a major expressway (I-55).

Now I'm starting to wonder how bad the backup will be when it is time for me to go home. :-(

747 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:30:42am

re: #738 smokefire

OOPS, Wrong Griswold, friend.

Griswold Inn is in Essex, CT, on the Connecticut River. Griswold Ct. is small town in New London County, off Interstate 395, North of Norwich, Ct.

I got family who lives in Essex. My Grandparents used to live in Chester. I spent more than a few summers at Cedar Lake.

748 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:30:51am

re: #740 Silhouette

Punished with another child. Don't they realize what this does to their carbon footprint?

Seriously, does anybody not like Tiger?

He seems like a nice, down-to-earth guy. I'm happy for him.

749 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:30:59am

re: #735 Racer X

They wish!

Geez I thought James Carville was going to cry he is so pissed off. You would think the left would be very happy, like the right when Barry did not pick Hillary and went with Biden.

I met a really nice woman once at a NC Republican rally and was commenting to my brother how nice she was and he laughed and told me it was Carville's wife.

Go figure. I hear that they have a pretty good marriage; politics aside.

750 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:31:13am

Tiger Woods, Jr. for president in 2060!

751 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:31:24am

re: #744 MandyManners

Mandy and this one

752 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:31:44am

re: #746 Honorary Yooper

That's nice. I'm trying to find more information on a major gas leak here (SW Chicagoland) that is shutting down a major expressway (I-55).

Now I'm starting to wonder how bad the backup will be when it is time for me to go home. :-(

I-55? leave right now and you might make it home in time for breakfast on
Thursday.

753 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:31:53am

re: #718 Typicalwhitey

Are they going to run her out of the race?

Who are the assholes behind that page?

754 midwestgak  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:32:53am

re: #731 kuffar

There are rumors that the Clinton, Hill and Bill, are going to tell the DNC to go F off and officially vet and endorse Palin.

Rumored where? The Twilight Zone?

755 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:32:55am

Wow, 754 comments. How about a new thread?

756 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:32:57am

re: #700 lawhawk

He graduated Magna cum laude, which is a pretty impressive thing. How he got into law school is one thing, but he certainly appears to have done well there. Survived and thrived.

Maybe, after being carried into the door. The Editorship was not based on performance but on politics. Merit had been eliminated previously. Would like to see his records made public.

BTW, my HS and University records demand asbestos gloves before handling.

757 joecitizen  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:33:06am

hey Lizards...glad to see y'all apparently survived Labor Day picnics with moonbat family and friends...I, for one, feel like the hot air balloonist that survived a fall from 9,000 feet- I 'spect I'm better for the experience but I wouldn't want it to be a daily event!
all I have to do to stoke these people is regard W and to slam them with the thought that if Bobby Kennedy was alive today he'd be a republican..you should see 'em scurry for the exits...they all keep coming back to my picnics though because I have the most land and the best booze, liberal values only extend so far I guess...
oh, and Gov. Palin is truly a goddess and is welcome in my yard anytime, hoo-aah

758 calcajun  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:33:15am

I have a question that might be a little OT, but it is relevant nonetheless.

It concerns McCain's vetting process for Palin. There are reports out there suggesting (see Ed Morrisey over at Hot Air) that there might have hardly been any vetting at all until last Thursday and that Palin was a pick foisted on McCain, who until last Friday wanted either Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman as his VP pick.

My thought is that either McCain, or his people, did a very thorough vetting of Palin and found that the "Troopergate" story does not have legs, that her statement re the "Bridge to Nowhere" last Friday was accurate--she had always been against it, that she was not a political pal of Ted Stevens, et al., etc, etc., OR they did a botched/rush job (perhaps evidenced by the accounts that very few of her political friends and her neighbors were contacted) and there are some serious skeletons in her closet. If the former, then the Palin pick may prove to be very shrewd. If the latter, they might just have blown the election for the GOP.

What is out there that shows how well she was vetted?

759 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:33:45am

re: #747 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

spent many a Monday night at the Gris, for Sea Chanty night with singer Cliff Haslaam. NEVER drink John Courage beer on tap. One hell of a hangover.
But a good time was had by all...........................I think

760 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:34:12am

re: #754 midwestgak

Rumored where? The Twilight Zone?

Dun think Clinton could if she wanted to just in case she has to run against her in 2012. It would be the first campaign commercial out of the gate.

761 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:34:16am

re: #731 kuffar
doncha know Bill is wondering...
/Rush's best Bubba's impersonation "Why cain't we get any good lookin'
women in our party like that"
(picture the women Hillary allowed in the administraion around ole Bill. and it still didn't help!)

762 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:34:36am

re: #697 midwestgak

I donated after she was added to the ticket. Due to the amount of money that was raised, so did many others. $10 Mil in just three days after the announcement. $45 Mil was raised in all of August.

McCain/Palin '08

God still loves America (and Israel)

I was keeping a tally on Thursday night and Friday and came up with 25 lizards who donated during the DNC or just before and after. You make 26. Names available upon request; I will add anyone who lets me know they've donated.

763 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:35:06am
764 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:35:17am

re: #758 calcajun

I have a question that might be a little OT, but it is relevant nonetheless.

It concerns McCain's vetting process for Palin. There are reports out there suggesting (see Ed Morrisey over at Hot Air) that there might have hardly been any vetting at all until last Thursday and that Palin was a pick foisted on McCain, who until last Friday wanted either Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman as his VP pick.

My thought is that either McCain, or his people, did a very thorough vetting of Palin and found that the "Troopergate" story does not have legs, that her statement re the "Bridge to Nowhere" last Friday was accurate--she had always been against it, that she was not a political pal of Ted Stevens, et al., etc, etc., OR they did a botched/rush job (perhaps evidenced by the accounts that very few of her political friends and her neighbors were contacted) and there are some serious skeletons in her closet. If the former, then the Palin pick may prove to be very shrewd. If the latter, they might just have blown the election for the GOP.

What is out there that shows how well she was vetted?

You will have to do the research yourself because I do not have the links handy, but someone who was involved in the vetting said that they had been vetting Palin since February or so and that there never was any "short list."

765 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:35:31am

re: #758 calcajun

I have a question that might be a little OT, but it is relevant nonetheless.

It concerns McCain's vetting process for Palin. There are reports out there suggesting (see Ed Morrisey over at Hot Air) that there might have hardly been any vetting at all until last Thursday and that Palin was a pick foisted on McCain, who until last Friday wanted either Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman as his VP pick.

My thought is that either McCain, or his people, did a very thorough vetting of Palin and found that the "Troopergate" story does not have legs, that her statement re the "Bridge to Nowhere" last Friday was accurate--she had always been against it, that she was not a political pal of Ted Stevens, et al., etc, etc., OR they did a botched/rush job (perhaps evidenced by the accounts that very few of her political friends and her neighbors were contacted) and there are some serious skeletons in her closet. If the former, then the Palin pick may prove to be very shrewd. If the latter, they might just have blown the election for the GOP.

What is out there that shows how well she was vetted?

Partisan rumor. How long did Obama vet Biden? A question they will not ask.

766 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:35:46am

re: #756 lifeofthemind

I've worked with several people who had a Phd. Almost universally they dropped the Dr in front of their name. The usual comment was I earned that 20 years ago and no longer directly work in the field of my doctorate. Good folks.

767 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:36:00am

My better half.................vagabond trader contributed 50.00

768 debutaunt  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:36:03am

re: #740 Silhouette

Punished with another child. Don't they realize what this does to their carbon footprint?

Seriously, does anybody not like Tiger?

I love the old video of him as a child playing golf on the Mike Douglas Show.

769 BrianA  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:36:49am

re: #758 calcajun

These campaigns use private law firms to do their vetting. There is no public paper trail.

770 Racer X  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:37:23am

re: #763 Ben Hur

British soldiers kill 200 Taliban in Afghan dam operation

Ethnic Enema Cleansing.

Fixed.

771 Cygnus  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:37:24am

re: #713 smokefire

RIP Jerry................

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Goodbye, Rubber Duck. Keep your nose between the ditches and Smokey out of your britches.

772 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:37:29am

Interesting facts about Cindy McCain's background:

Hensley received a Bachelor of Arts in education and a Master of Arts in special education, both from the University of Southern California.... There she participated in a movement therapy pilot program that laid the way for a standard treatment for children with severe disabilities;[17] she published the work Movement Therapy: A Possible Approach in 1978.[20] Declining a role in the family business,[21] she then began a special education teaching career working with children with Down syndrome and other disabilities at Agua Fria High School in Avondale, Arizona.[17][6][14]

I have a good feeling that Cindy & Sarah will have a great friendship.

773 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:37:29am

re: #762 doppelganglander

I was keeping a tally on Thursday night and Friday and came up with 25 lizards who donated during the DNC or just before and after. You make 26. Names available upon request; I will add anyone who lets me know they've donated.


I donated right after her speech.

774 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:37:47am

re: #513 cblesz

It's Gallup, and it actually shows that Obama never got a bounce from the convention. The 50% is within the margin of error for a while now. It also suggests that McCain didn't get a Palin bounce either - or that the two events negated each other.

I'd call it bad news for Obama.

775 kansas  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:37:54am

re: #762 doppelganglander

Kansas. Just 50 bucks, but sent 5 emails to friends of mine encouraging them to do the same.

776 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:38:50am

re: #771 Cygnus

Goodbye, Rubber Duck. Keep your nose between the ditches and Smokey out of your britches.


It was the snowman Cygnus, Snowman, Rubber duck was another movie.

777 Semper Gumbi  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:39:01am

re: #758 calcajun

There's an article in either yesterday or today's WAPO that dsescribes a very thorough vetting process. It states the reason friends and family and the local Wassilia paper weren't initally looked at is because they wanted to keep it a secret that they were seriously vertting her. States that McCain first met her way back in February.

778 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:39:10am

re: #758 calcajun

I have a question that might be a little OT, but it is relevant nonetheless.

It concerns McCain's vetting process for Palin. There are reports out there suggesting (see Ed Morrisey over at Hot Air) that there might have hardly been any vetting at all until last Thursday and that Palin was a pick foisted on McCain, who until last Friday wanted either Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman as his VP pick.

My thought is that either McCain, or his people, did a very thorough vetting of Palin and found that the "Troopergate" story does not have legs, that her statement re the "Bridge to Nowhere" last Friday was accurate--she had always been against it, that she was not a political pal of Ted Stevens, et al., etc, etc., OR they did a botched/rush job (perhaps evidenced by the accounts that very few of her political friends and her neighbors were contacted) and there are some serious skeletons in her closet. If the former, then the Palin pick may prove to be very shrewd. If the latter, they might just have blown the election for the GOP.

What is out there that shows how well she was vetted?

If it was done properly, nothing.
Kind of like the criticisms I heard on the "Gunny Bob" show one evening when a caller asked "Why aren't they executing more covert missions?". Gunny Bob said "How do you know they aren't?"

779 alegrias  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:39:18am

re: #716 Beach Lover

Rush is bringing up something that I had heard over the weekend a couple times from the MSM talking heads....one of which was Andrea Mitchell. she said something to the effect...Palin will be appealing to the "uneducated, middle class women"!

I was boiling mad!
>:-{

* * *
The snobbishness and elitism of women looking down their nose at the Palins is more CLASS WARFARE that Joe Biden promised. The haves and the have-nots, or the elites versus hockey moms.

These women are saying if you're not liberal and don't avail yourself of contraception AND stick to your principles, you're an Untenmenschen, or whatever George Orwell called robotic underclasses only fit to work as beasts of burden.

780 Cygnus  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:39:34am

re: #727 MandyManners

[Link: www.causegreater.com...]

I read somewhere that Cindy McCain paid for this out of her own pocket.

A thousand updings for Cindy McCain!

781 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:39:40am

re: #774 lawhawk

It's Gallup, and it actually shows that Obama never got a bounce from the convention. The 50% is within the margin of error for a while now. It also suggests that McCain didn't get a Palin bounce either - or that the two events negated each other.

I'd call it bad news for Obama.

Unless I am myself just a Partisan hack I would argue that a negation occurred. I haven't seen this kind of energy in the Party since the Immigration issue.

782 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:40:21am
783 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:40:44am

re: #771 Cygnus

and one more.

784 debutaunt  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:40:48am

re: #758 calcajun

I have a question that might be a little OT, but it is relevant nonetheless.

It concerns McCain's vetting process for Palin. There are reports out there suggesting (see Ed Morrisey over at Hot Air) that there might have hardly been any vetting at all until last Thursday and that Palin was a pick foisted on McCain, who until last Friday wanted either Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman as his VP pick.

My thought is that either McCain, or his people, did a very thorough vetting of Palin and found that the "Troopergate" story does not have legs, that her statement re the "Bridge to Nowhere" last Friday was accurate--she had always been against it, that she was not a political pal of Ted Stevens, et al., etc, etc., OR they did a botched/rush job (perhaps evidenced by the accounts that very few of her political friends and her neighbors were contacted) and there are some serious skeletons in her closet. If the former, then the Palin pick may prove to be very shrewd. If the latter, they might just have blown the election for the GOP.

What is out there that shows how well she was vetted?

Karl Rove was on Fox this morning as said she was thoroughly vetted this Summer.

785 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:41:06am
786 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:41:16am

re: #759 smokefire

spent many a Monday night at the Gris, for Sea Chanty night with singer Cliff Haslaam. NEVER drink John Courage beer on tap. One hell of a hangover.
But a good time was had by all...........................I think


CT is a nice state and it is a pity that there are still Lamont signs all over the place. Used to eat at the Griswald when driving between NYC and OCS Newport. Alas that is gone now. Good times in Litchfield also.

787 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:41:19am

re: #758 calcajun

I have a question that might be a little OT, but it is relevant nonetheless.

It concerns McCain's vetting process for Palin. There are reports out there suggesting (see Ed Morrisey over at Hot Air) that there might have hardly been any vetting at all until last Thursday and that Palin was a pick foisted on McCain, who until last Friday wanted either Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman as his VP pick.

My thought is that either McCain, or his people, did a very thorough vetting of Palin and found that the "Troopergate" story does not have legs, that her statement re the "Bridge to Nowhere" last Friday was accurate--she had always been against it, that she was not a political pal of Ted Stevens, et al., etc, etc., OR they did a botched/rush job (perhaps evidenced by the accounts that very few of her political friends and her neighbors were contacted) and there are some serious skeletons in her closet. If the former, then the Palin pick may prove to be very shrewd. If the latter, they might just have blown the election for the GOP.

What is out there that shows how well she was vetted?

Lori Lane at No. 1102 on the DT cited Rove on Fox.

788 UFO TOFU  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:41:36am

re: #762 doppelganglander
I donated a few weeks ago. The first time in several years.

789 midwestgak  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:41:42am

re: #762 doppelganglander

I was keeping a tally on Thursday night and Friday and came up with 25 lizards who donated during the DNC or just before and after. You make 26. Names available upon request; I will add anyone who lets me know they've donated.

Great idea! Sadly, 8/31 was the cut off for cash contributions to McCain.

If we buy his merchandise, can those proceeds be used to support his campaign?

790 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:43:14am

re: #789 midwestgak

Great idea! Sadly, 8/31 was the cut off for cash contributions to McCain.

If we buy his merchandise, can those proceeds be used to support his campaign?

You can still donate to the Republican Party and believe me, that cash is going to the campaign in ad buys &c.

791 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:44:38am

re: #758 calcajun

I have a question that might be a little OT, but it is relevant nonetheless.

It concerns McCain's vetting process for Palin. There are reports out there suggesting (see Ed Morrisey over at Hot Air) that there might have hardly been any vetting at all until last Thursday and that Palin was a pick foisted on McCain, who until last Friday wanted either Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman as his VP pick.

My thought is that either McCain, or his people, did a very thorough vetting of Palin and found that the "Troopergate" story does not have legs, that her statement re the "Bridge to Nowhere" last Friday was accurate--she had always been against it, that she was not a political pal of Ted Stevens, et al., etc, etc., OR they did a botched/rush job (perhaps evidenced by the accounts that very few of her political friends and her neighbors were contacted) and there are some serious skeletons in her closet. If the former, then the Palin pick may prove to be very shrewd. If the latter, they might just have blown the election for the GOP.

What is out there that shows how well she was vetted?


I don't for one minute think that MacCain would take a chance of blowing this election on any candidate that was not throughly vetted in this day and age. Esp. with the MSM slant. That said...I don't think he made his final decision on Palin until the O one passed on Hillary and he knew that was his fatal mistake and opened a huge advantage for her.

792 calcajun  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:45:25am

re: #778 jwb7605

Good point.

Here's the source of my concern:

[Link: hotair.com...]

But, again, the McCain team had to have known of the "Troopergate" issue, that it was an ongoing investigation and they had to have some information to convince them it would not be an impediment. Otherwise...

I think the energized GOP base is an immediate dividend of her being nominated. I just pray there is no other shoe to drop.

793 smokefire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:46:00am

re: #786 lifeofthemind

CT is a nice state and it is a pity that there are still Lamont signs all over the place. Used to eat at the Griswald when driving between NYC and OCS Newport. Alas that is gone now. Good times in Litchfield also.

Let me guess.................Navy, right?
OCS Newport. I am betting you may have spent time at the Submarine Base Capital of the World too, right? Or where they build them, right down the road, or for that matter maybe over the river at Naval Underwater System Center. Spent 9 years protecting Naval Personnel, and at one time Iranian Naval Personnel too. Thats right 1978-79 Iranian Naval personnel. NOW THAT WAS FUN

794 midwestgak  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:46:08am

re: #790 Noam Chumpski

You can still donate to the Republican Party and believe me, that cash is going to the campaign in ad buys &c.

Thanks for the tip.

795 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:46:12am

re: #762 doppelganglander

I was keeping a tally on Thursday night and Friday and came up with 25 lizards who donated during the DNC or just before and after. You make 26. Names available upon request; I will add anyone who lets me know they've donated.

Add me to the list!

796 Cygnus  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:46:14am

re: #788 UFO TOFU

I donated a few weeks ago. The first time in several years.


I donated right after hearing about Gov. Palin being chosen. First time ever for me.

797 calcajun  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:47:25am

re: #791 Beach Lover

I agree. If BHO had nominated Hillary, Palin would not have gotten the nod; it would have looked to contrived. It would have been Pawlenty or Ridge.

798 Macker  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:48:38am

re: #693 lifeofthemind

Um...Affirmative Action, Affirmative Action, and Affirmative Action?

799 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:49:06am

re: #789 midwestgak

Great idea! Sadly, 8/31 was the cut off for cash contributions to McCain.

If we buy his merchandise, can those proceeds be used to support his campaign?

I think the cutoff is actually Thursday, the day he accepts the nomination. As Noam points out, RNC has a McCain/Palin Victory fund that can accept donations. RNC donations also go to support congressional candidates in tough races, and we need McCain supporters in congress to help pass his bills.

newsjunkie_ky, kansas, and UFO TOFU, all added to the list, now numbering 29.

800 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:49:16am

re: #766 Perplexed

I've worked with several people who had a Phd. Almost universally they dropped the Dr in front of their name. The usual comment was I earned that 20 years ago and no longer directly work in the field of my doctorate. Good folks.

The convention at Chicago was that only MDs used the term Dr although a few of the older European hard scientists (Chem or Physics) expected it. One reason I felt an instant gut distaste for union teachers was they would call themselves "Dr" if they had a DEd, which to me is a bogus Sociology bastard child, or even a JD. Then they would call themselves "Educators" if they got a soft job out of the classroom.

801 alegrias  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:51:15am

re: #792 calcajun

Good point.

Here's the source of my concern:

[Link: hotair.com...]

But, again, the McCain team had to have known of the "Troopergate" issue, that it was an ongoing investigation and they had to have some information to convince them it would not be an impediment. Otherwise...

I think the energized GOP base is an immediate dividend of her being nominated. I just pray there is no other shoe to drop.

* * *
No "Shoe" to drop?

In both cases, Palin acting against someone who tasered a child--her nephew--and protecting a teen having a child, are hardly crimes.

As compared to transacting business & providing goodies to terrorist friends, there's no there there.

Americans can make up their minds but Palin's consistent in standing up, not cutting schmucky backroom deals the Chicago machine way.

802 midwestgak  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:51:45am

re: #797 calcajun

I agree. If BHO had nominated Hillary, Palin would not have gotten the nod; it would have looked to contrived. It would have been Pawlenty or Ridge.

I was desperatly hoping OB would not pick Hillberry - it would have worked for the Dems.

Phew. OB can't change his mind can he?

803 claire  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:55:20am

re: #762 doppelganglander

I gave McCain $1000 on Saturday and happy to do it with Palin on the ticket.

804 Iron Fist  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:55:30am

re: #708 alegrias

They're pro-choice as long as it is the right choice (i.e. abortion). Imagine what this kid feels like right now. Her private choice is being debated by millions of Democrats who want to tell her how to live her life.

She chose not to kill her baby, so she is bad. As you said, they are anti-baby. It's downright scary to hear them pontificate.

805 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:56:06am

re: #793 smokefire

Let me guess.................Navy, right?
OCS Newport. I am betting you may have spent time at the Submarine Base Capital of the World too, right? Or where they build them, right down the road, or for that matter maybe over the river at Naval Underwater System Center. Spent 9 years protecting Naval Personnel, and at one time Iranian Naval Personnel too. Thats right 1978-79 Iranian Naval personnel. NOW THAT WAS FUN

Submarines? A sewer pipe? Shudder. Did go to OCS with the last group of nukes at OCS who were personally selected by Hyman Rickover.

806 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:57:32am

re: #699 Silhouette

OT - Jerry Reed has died.

Oh no. East bound and down, ol' friend.

807 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 11:58:46am

Charles trying to get this post to 1,000?

Gotta be something new to link to. :)

808 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 12:00:59pm

re: #762 doppelganglander

Am I on you list?

809 winston06  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 12:01:24pm

Daily Kos acts like Neo-Nazis' papers or Communist propaganda machine

810 calcajun  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 12:03:18pm

re: #802 midwestgak

I was desperatly hoping OB would not pick Hillberry - it would have worked for the Dems.

Phew. OB can't change his mind can he?

yes. Biden can get unexpectedly "sick" and have to bow out, leaving the field clear for you know who. But Palin has already stolen her thunder.

811 calcajun  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 12:03:47pm

re: #809 winston06

Daily Kos acts like Neo-Nazis' papers or Communist propaganda machine

From who do you think they learned how to do that which they do?

812 Iron Fist  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 12:03:56pm

re: #762 doppelganglander

I donated $100.

813 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 12:07:42pm

re: #704 smokefire

Sick very sick...............I like it though.

Oh! Did I omit the sarc tag? How careless of me.

/in case this is needed

814 Vergeltung  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 12:08:50pm

re: #799 doppelganglander

I think the cutoff is actually Thursday, the day he accepts the nomination. As Noam points out, RNC has a McCain/Palin Victory fund that can accept donations. RNC donations also go to support congressional candidates in tough races, and we need McCain supporters in congress to help pass his bills.
newsjunkie_ky, kansas, and UFO TOFU, all added to the list, now numbering 29.

did ya get me from the other day?

815 Ms. Missive  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 12:10:21pm

It should have been a hat tip to Ms. Missive on this one. :(

My comment (with cache of the site) was time stamped at 3:06 am:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

/pouring another jack n' coke

816 calcajun  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 12:10:44pm

re: #806 CyanSnowHawk

Truly not longer hot. Room temperature, in fact.

71 is not old, dammit.

817 J.S.  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 12:18:12pm

Somewhat OT

Is anyone listening to CNN right now? I can hardly believe what I'm hearing from a Washington Post "reporter" -- Sally Quinn. She sounds like some 1940's School Marm...yet this Thing claims to be a "progressive." Ja...so the Female Jack Booted Fascist here doesn't want da Vomen with da children in the work force...I have to laugh...this is incredible...So "progressives" now are demanding that women "stay in the kitchen!" where they belong...hilarious...

818 CLLRusso  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 12:46:19pm

Michael Medved just talked about Sally Quinn, long of the WPost, if she was not married to Ben Bradley, the long term editor now retired (I don't think he's dead yet), I always wondered how she kept a job considering the poor reporting she did even in the Style section. That's where she wrote gossip and insider news and all about how awful Nancy Reagan was, and festive events, even Lou Cannon did many hatchet jobs on conservatives, but he did move up on his own. Loved it when I lived in Washington DC everything was a local call, which I did regularly to tell them what bad reporting they were doing. Sigh, what fun!

The Daily Kos bunch suffers what many do with the anonymous bravado and dirty mouths of the Internet. I bet they would be slightly more civil in person, for fear of a punch in the mouth.

819 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 12:48:43pm

re: #817 J.S.

So "progressives" now are demanding that women "stay in the kitchen!" where they belong...hilarious...

I was reading that in the comments section at the Globe & Mail this morning. Margret Wente had an op-ed calling the nomination of Palin "an insult to women" because she was an allegedly unqualified token female. Never mind that Obama had far less experience, and Hillary not much more than him.

The "progressives" started piling on with comments that Palin has betrayed her family values by putting her career ahead of her children. Talk about cognitive dissonance!

820 looking closely  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 1:08:45pm

re: #533 Dahveed

I've noticed in some of the polls that when you look at the internal information, the pollsters tend to poll more people that identify themselves as Democrat rather than Republicans. In the last CBS poll Democrats polled totaled 310, Republicans totaled 247, and independents were 318. I have heard, perhaps on this site, that pollsters tend to do this because Republicans are more likely to vote than Democrats. i don't know if that's true, but I find it interesting that they avoid parity when it comes to polling.


Actually Republican voters are simply less likely to participate in political polls.

There have been varying explanations posited for this (eg they're more likely to have jobs and be working), but this could explain why Dems are usually oversampled relative to Republicans.

Also, for a number of reasons, the polls invariably slant Democratic. IIRC at no point was GWB ahead in polls over Gore or Kerry. Unfortunately, in close races, this poll bias inevitably fuels speculation of voter fraud.

821 looking closely  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 1:10:32pm

re: #731 kuffar

There are rumors that the Clinton, Hill and Bill, are going to tell the DNC to go F off and officially vet and endorse Palin.

Not going to happen.
Bill probably doesn't care, but over party disloyalty will piss off both the party brass and the base, and tend to disqualify Hill from further Presidential bids.
Of course, if she's decided that she isn't going to run for POTUS again, well. . .then things could get interesting.

822 jpkoch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 1:15:09pm

re: #819 Kenneth

They are out of ammo. I also think they're about to get their clocks cleaned when Sarah Palin gives her speech tomorrow. Their (the MSM and Obama) fear is that the GOP will gain a huge head of steam during this convention. McCain has been taking baby steps to the Right (on many issues he has actually crossed the Center), and Palin will solidify the GOP like no other candidate can.

The Obama Staff I think is in a state of shock. Six months ago, they were projecting a 20 point lead going into September. The best they can do is the Rasmussen Poll with an 8 point lead. Which is zilch. Even Dukakis got an 18 point bounce in 1988.

823 jpkoch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 1:23:28pm

re: #821 looking closely


I don't know. Hillary could actually pull a McCain and piss half of her party off. The Maverick model can work very good if done right. McCain will probably only serve one term if he does win in November. And if McCain does win, it would be one of the biggest upsets since 1948 and Truman/Dewey. If Obama loses, the Dem's will probably fire Dean and attempt to retool their image. Make no mistake, Hillary wants to be President before her time completely passes. If that means moving to the Center and becoming a party maverick, she will do it.

If Obama loses, the Kozkids will become orphans and Soro's groups like Move On and Media Matters will become persona non-grata. Many people will blame the over-the-top libel that these groups do, and the Dem's will have to decide if they want to continue this way.

824 Straitcircle  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 2:04:53pm

Is it true Obama's mother was 18 yo when she gave birth to him. She musta have been ahhh 17 yo at conception date. It is not OK is a female GOP has this issue in their family -- right?

825 yochanan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 2:16:06pm

re: #511 Silhouette

I've got one open on my desk, at work, in plain view of non-religious co-workers, shoving my view down their throat!

Of course, I also have hanging my last target from the gun range, with a nice grouping. No one bothers me much.

THIS REMINDS ME OF A JOKE;
three families are attacked by muslim terrorists a democrat, a republican and a NRA life member (like gov'r palin)

the democrats wife says what did we ever do to deserve this as he cuts her husband head off.

the republican pulls his gun out and shots him.

the nra life member unloads a whole clip, reloads and empties it too
the son says to his father 'nice grouping' the wife says 'you can't take that to the taxidermy.

826 traveler59  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 3:06:47pm

Well, at least I got a copy of that page before it was deleted as proof of the depravity of the moonbats. Just the fact that soooo many koskiddies made comments shows that it wasn't an 'under the radar' type of post.
- Traveler

827 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 3:10:01pm

re: #826 traveler59

Well, at least I got a copy of that page before it was deleted as proof of the depravity of the moonbats. Just the fact that soooo many koskiddies made comments shows that it wasn't an 'under the radar' type of post.
- Traveler

Used to deal with a mega troll called Um Yeah. The kid was going through school, attempting to become a lawyer/politician. Told him "you've got to watch what you post because it will come back to haunt you later in life." This is one of those 'will come back to haunt you' moments for kos.

828 J.S.  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 3:52:20pm

re: #819 Kenneth

You have to wonder what would have happened had McCain chosen as his running mate a black person -- would the Democrat's "talking points" suddenly become the KKK's echo-chamber about "dem 'uppity' Black folk"? would the Dems all become (overnight) overt racists?

829 Yankee Sojourner  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 6:38:59pm

re: #92 SpringheelJack

It's Obama's style. It's how he won his US Senate seat, by threatening to unseal Rep opponent Ryan's divorce records, and splatter Ryan's personal sex life all over. Rather than allow that, and have his son see those records all over the Internet, Ryan bowed out and let Obama win by default.

In Obama's 1996 state senate race, he won by invalidating the ballot status of all the other challengers.

Obama's attitude is "Why win by being the better candidate, if you can eliminate your opponents by playing dirty?

Welcome to politics Chicago-style.

830 NEPAConservative  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 7:23:25pm

The champions of womens issues strikes again ! 892 comments yikes...hopefully nobody mentioned the fact that the Democrats in Alaska released her Social Security number to the public yet. This can not be leagal ! Saw it on the Redstate.com

[Link: www.redstate.com...]

Serving it up Chicago-style big time !

831 mineral  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:01:30pm

I'm sure it's been noted already, but this was the number one submission to digg for quite a long time. It had by far the most diggs.


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