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Yet Another Daily Kos Hate Blog Down the Memory Hole

Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:32:36 am PDT

That Daily Kos diarist who’s been posting vile smears against Sarah Palin and her family has suddenly vanished down the memory hole: Daily Kos: Sarah Palin Is NOT The Mother [Photos+Video].

UPDATE at 9/2/08 8:58:52 am:

That diary isn’t the only one deleted; everything posted by “arcxix” has disappeared: Daily Kos :: Diaries :: arcxix.

UPDATE at 9/2/08 9:13:03 am:

Here’s the Google cache of the diary: Daily Kos: Sarah Palin Is NOT The Mother [Photos Video].

UPDATE at 9/2/08 9:59:59 am:

The original “speculative” post about Sarah Palin being the real mother was by another Kos Kid, and it’s still there: Daily Kos: Palin’s faked “pregnancy”? Covering for teen daughter? UPDATE #2!

(Hat tip: Dr. Rusty.)

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1 rawmuse  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:34:28am

Hare-brained today, gone tomorrow.

2 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:34:40am

Go figure.

/delete

3 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:35:19am

Was it banned, too?

4 Drained Brain  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:35:27am

To make room for more filth, no doubt.

5 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:35:44am

And Kos is Winston Smith.

6 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:35:57am

That reminds me of a little kid who covers their eyes and thinks that YOU can't see THEM.
IGNORANT!

7 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:36:35am

Kos, having a fit of sanity? Naaahh...

8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:36:36am

Oh, dont worry, they'll get something just as nasty up again soon

9 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:37:02am

I'm curious:

1. Can the media and Left keep up this level of attack through to November?
(I sure hope so because it's rallying people I know to McCain that didn't give a whit just three days ago)

2. What are Nancy Pelosi's 5 children up to and are they all perfect; living perfect lives?

Hmm....

10 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:37:16am

Doubleplus ungoodthink!

11 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:37:25am

I can GUARANTEE you that this disappeared at the behest of Obama.

12 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:37:48am

Media Template:

The skeletons in Palins closet: Fair Game.

The skeletons in Obama's closet: Off Limits.

13 ziggyelman  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:38:22am

Well, they have been forced to mention a 24 year old DUI her husband got, and her daughter being pregnant.....I sure hope Joe Biden's wife and daughter are checked out with a fine toothed comb! Find out if Mrs. Biden has had any abortions. Perhaps they can get them kicked out of the Catholic Church!

14 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:38:45am

the reason for the KOS memory hole?

King Obama told his minions to back off.

15 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:38:46am

Google cache here.

16 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:38:54am

Kosling is afraid that Obama won't like him any more. Page got yanked for only that reason.

17 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:38:59am

re: #14 FrogMarch

the reason for the KOS memory hole?

King Obama told his minions to back off.

"yes master"

18 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:39:08am

re: #7 Fat Jolly Penguin

Kos, having a fit of sanity? Naaahh...

No. Obama told them to stop embarrassing him by posting this crap. There are still plenty more.

19 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:39:24am

re: #12 FrogMarch

Media Template:

The skeletons in Palins closet: Fair Game.

The skeletons in Obama's closet: Off Limits.

Hangin' with Terrorists: Good Judgement

Supporting your Daughter Through Tough Times: Reckless Parenting

20 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:40:03am

Four days to bury it? Oh, so this whole nonstory never happened now?

21 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:40:10am

I mentioned it in the dead thread, but the Chicago Tribune's John Kass has some things to say about this dipstick of a Daily Kos blogger:

Have American presidential politics become so hateful that a pregnant 17-year-old girl has to have the intimate details of her life exposed to the nation by character assassins?

Ask the left-wing Internet haters, the anonymous propagandists who call themselves bloggers on the Daily Kos.

And ask Bristol Palin, who didn't deserve it, and was a victim of the rumor-mongers consumed with attacking her mother, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican running mate of Sen. John McCain, because the mother is a conservative and opposes abortion.

The Internet rumors claimed that Sarah's baby, Trig, born four months ago with Down syndrome, wasn't really hers but her daughter's. They plucked some photos from the Internet, photos out of sequence, to make it appear as though Gov. Palin hadn't been pregnant, proving once again that on the Internet, the casualties are credibility and civility. Reading it, you could almost hear the saliva dripping from their teeth as they typed anonymously.

"Sarah Palin is NOT The Mother" cried one Daily Kos blogger who goes by a screen name ArcXIX. "Attention! Read The Follow-Up too! BabyGate: Explosive New Details.

"Now, I've known liars all my life," the blogger wrote. "Their single core problem is not with themselves, but those around them. If they're never called out on their twisting of truths and fabrications, they simply continue to make larger lies. Well Sarah, I'm calling you a liar and not even a good one. Trig Paxson Van Palin is not your son. He is your grandson. The sooner you come forward with this revelation to the public, the better."

I don't know if Komodo dragons can type, but their mouths are so full of bacteria that if they bite your leg you'll likely die. This anonymous Komodo was probably in mommy's basement, perhaps with a bowl of Chex Mix and a Diet Coke nearby.

Way to stay classy, Markos. First have this guy (ArcXIX) post this toilet nugget, and then delete it so you have plausible deniability.

22 TheSpartan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:40:26am

Cowards.

23 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:40:26am

re: #13 ziggyelman

Perhaps they can get them kicked out of the Catholic Church!

Catholic Church doesn't work that way ziggy...

24 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:40:29am

"I Hate Sarah Palin" from NRO David Kahane.
Pretty much says it all...and worth a good laugh if it wasn't so true!

25 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:40:34am

re: #13 ziggyelman

Well, they have been forced to mention a 24 year old DUI her husband got, and her daughter being pregnant.....I sure hope Joe Biden's wife and daughter are checked out with a fine toothed comb! Find out if Mrs. Biden has had any abortions. Perhaps they can get them kicked out of the Catholic Church!

NO! NO! NO!

26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:40:48am

re: #9 Noam Chumpski

I'm curious:

1. Can the media and Left keep up this level of attack through to November?
(I sure hope so because it's rallying people I know to McCain that didn't give a whit just three days ago)

2. What are Nancy Pelosi's 5 children up to and are they all perfect; living perfect lives?

Hmm....

1) With a bottomless supply of vitriol and seething, you bet they can

2) If you're a Dem, it means your family is off limits

27 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:41:20am

re: #7 Fat Jolly Penguin

Kos, having a fit of sanity? Naaahh...

It's Markos Moulitsas's plausible deniability. First the toilet nugget is posted, then it is flushed down the drain. Very typical, very Daily Kos.

28 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:41:27am
Sorry. I can't seem to find that story


Open the pod bay door, Hal.

29 kynna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:41:38am

Memory hole? That's the little wooden shack out back with the moon shaped window in the door, right?

30 daveolson  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:42:12am

I have always had fun skimming through DailyKos and posting comments just to annoy them. Not blatant enough so that they could discern that I was on the opposite side, but cutting nonetheless.

This attack really angers me, however. It is clear that they are trying to hit Palin as hard as they can as soon as they can - Kos version of whack-a-mole, I guess. I would guess that they are concerned that she will survive the onslaught and prove to be a formidable opponent. Go girl.

31 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:42:30am

re: #15 victor_yugo

Google cache here.


How do you save that so it doesn't disappear?

32 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:42:54am

I demand that Obama's pundit - Excitable Andy - continue to demand for the release of Palin's birthing records.


Meanwhile - Obama the smoker can still refuse to release his medical records.
It's all in the name of fairness - (just like Obama's tax plan: Tax certain groups out of "fairness".)

33 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:43:10am

re: #3 MandyManners

Was it banned, too?

It's on Daily Kos. The only things that get banned there are Republicans, conservatives, and Hillary Clinton supporters.

34 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:43:33am

The hamsters are starting to get annoyed....

35 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:43:38am

Recall how unglued the left was over the "Swiftboating" of Lurch.

Yet watch them gleefully pick over Sarah Palin's entire existence like it's bloodsport.

Team McCain needs to start unloading the heavy artillery on Obama.

Nothing is off-limits now. Run those Jeremiah Wright and Ayers commercials 24/7 until election day.

36 Racer X  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:43:53am

Saw two broadcast news stations yesterday mention DailyKos as the source of the false nasty rumors. They mentioned "radical left-wing blogs".

Good job koslings - you're making the headlines.

37 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:43:58am
38 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:44:02am

The loons want more control over the asylum.....
Markos, It's Time to Let Us Clean Up DailyKos

As today's morning shows display screen caps of DailyKos while anchors chatter about "ruthless liberal bloggers," those of us in the majority who denounced the smear diarists are, to say the least, angry and outraged. After seeing our own nominee slandered by conspiracy theorists across the right-wing blogosphere, it is extremely frustrating that the many responsible and ethical users of DailyKos are being equated with the anonymous swift boaters who exploit the popularity of this site to spread scurrilous garbage.

39 SpringheelJack  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:44:06am

The article served its purpose.

I strongly doubt Kos actually thought that Sarah's baby was actually her daughter. But by putting out that loathsome smear, they forced Sarah to make a statement about her daughter being 5 months pregnant, which was the real point.

The Kos people are scum. Now, all Obama's pious statements about leaving families out of this are "inoperative". It is now open season on EVERYTHING on Obama's side. The stepbrother living in poverty. His association with Ayers and other domestic terrorists. Rev Wrights dirty little church. Everything.

40 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:44:23am

re: #31 Typicalwhitey

How do you save that so it doesn't disappear?

Right-click anywhere on the page, and there should be a menu option somewhere. Or, under the File menu at the top of the window, there might be a "Save As..." option there.

41 J.S.  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:44:29am

Oh, no! CBC journalists will no longer have access their sources! What are they going to do? ! Such an utter outrage! The Infamy!

Oh well, guess it's back to relying on Al-Jazeera, HAMAS and Hezbollah for their "news" of the day...

42 iceman1960  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:44:30am

Must be a lot of holes over there at the Kos

43 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:44:32am

re: #33 Honorary Yooper

It's on Daily Kos. The only things that get banned there are Republicans, conservatives, and Hillary Clinton supporters.

What was I thinking?!

45 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:46:13am
46 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:46:13am

I want to know about all of the financial gains to the Obama family and to the Biden family becasue of their political positions and their ties to lobbyists.


I demand the release of the documents in Chicago that show the relationship between William Ayres adn Barack Obama.

47 ziggyelman  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:46:15am

re: #31 Typicalwhitey

How do you save that so it doesn't disappear?

Well, it would take a long time, but via IE, send the page not as a link, but as a page to yourself....probably a better way, but only way I know of....

48 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:47:43am

Kos is a CIA spook.

49 ziggyelman  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:47:56am

re: #25 MandyManners

NO! NO! NO!

I am half kidding...but I REALLY, REALLY get the feeling the dems are going to find a way to get her off the ticket, they are that scared of her. So, unfair or not, someone needs to dig into the crap and see what they can find on Biden's family....and perhaps stop this sh*t once and for all.

50 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:48:36am

re: #39 SpringheelJack

The article served its purpose.

I strongly doubt Kos actually thought that Sarah's baby was actually her daughter. But by putting out that loathsome smear, they forced Sarah to make a statement about her daughter being 5 months pregnant, which was the real point.

The Kos people are scum. Now, all Obama's pious statements about leaving families out of this are "inoperative". It is now open season on EVERYTHING on Obama's side. The stepbrother living in poverty. His association with Ayers and other domestic terrorists. Rev Wrights dirty little church. Everything.

Perhaps, minors should be left out of the mud slinging. Adults are fair game.

51 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:49:02am

They're not all deleted. This one has been up for several days.

Shameless self-promotion warning: I blogged about it here. :)

52 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:49:16am

re: #44 Occasional Reader

Obama post-convention poll "bounce" small by historic standards, and already shrinking.


That's why Obama's media operatives are trying so hard to destroy the RNC.

/We must break from the RNC to bring you Breaking Gustav coverage - Up next some bore in a windbreaker.

53 colin nelson  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:49:20am

Gone but not forgotten.

That post was the most immoral and ugly concoction I have ever seen surface during a political campaign. I cannot imagine the hurt that vile poster caused the Palin family.

54 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:49:37am
55 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:50:07am

It was ALL about Palin's daughter this morning on ALL the tvs in the gym.

Good thing she didn't do coke.

56 joncelli  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:50:09am

re: #48 Ben Hur

Does Larry Johnson know about that?

57 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:50:11am

re: #49 ziggyelman

I am half kidding...but I REALLY, REALLY get the feeling the dems are going to find a way to get her off the ticket, they are that scared of her. So, unfair or not, someone needs to dig into the crap and see what they can find on Biden's family....and perhaps stop this sh*t once and for all.

The Democrats can try but, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are made of sterner stuff than the left can fathom.

58 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:50:43am

This only happened because Obama told a reporter today that "family members are off limits" for his campaign.

So they get the shots in for a few days, then the Lightworker declares "we don't go there" after the "damage" is done.

I quote "damage" because the only damage done is to the Democrats themselves. While they smugly insist they always have the high ground, they have shown themselves to have the scruples of sewer rats. Meanwhile, McCain supporters show themselves to be the more open minded and accepting group.

59 vagabond trader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:50:51am

re: #39 SpringheelJack

Remember, the Obama paid homage to KOS by speaking at their last convention.He can afford to offer high minded platitudes about family being off limits when he has the reprehensible KOS and Huff doing his hatchet jobs.

I want to see those elusive medical records for starters Barry O.

60 slotgun  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:50:53am

I find precious little comfort on the "yeah, but THEY started it" line of defense, but these crapheads on the leftern blogs are taking political discourse in this country places where it may never find its way back. Yes, historians can cite some of the truly ugly political attacks made by candidates in the 19th century and argue that it was more incendiary then, but that misses a very important point: Most of that bile was limited in its reach because of the crude forms of media in that era. Today, you can pump bilgewater onto the Internet at sunrise and reach millions by noon. Witness the NYT and its THREE stories on the front page about Palin today. They leftists reporters are drinking deep from that poisoned well, and we're all going to be the poorer for it when they get through.

61 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:52:14am

re: #51 Anthony (Los Angeles)

They're not all deleted. This one has been up for several days.

Shameless self-promotion warning: I blogged about it here. :)

How many of these nameless bloggers are sock puppets for Markos Moulitsas?

62 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:52:17am

Ah, the joys of the memory hole. Smear today, gone tomorrow.

63 J.S.  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:52:42am

re: #53 colin nelson

And that vile crap was repeated by a CBC "journalist" on last night's evening "news"...(the same one who supports Hezbollah, etc.)

64 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:52:45am

re: #55 Ben Hur

It was ALL about Palin's daughter this morning on ALL the tvs in the gym.

Good thing she didn't do coke.

Any mention that Obama was conceived out of wedlock?

....the couple married on February 2, 1961 in Maui, Hawaii.[6][1]

On August 4, 1961, at age 18, she gave birth to her first child whom she named Barack Hussein Obama II.

65 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:52:57am

One thing is that the Swiftboat folks had truth on their side. Half truths, innuendos, lies, damned lies, and statistics directed towards children of the candidates are disgusting. I wonder of kosling would do the same towards Chelsea Clinton if circumstances were the same.

66 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:53:04am

re: #57 MandyManners

The Democrats can try but, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are made of sterner stuff than the left can fathom.

Yes, ma'am!

67 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:53:44am

So now excitable Andy is diggin in the dirt on Bristol's boyfriend. What an asshole.

68 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:53:56am

Maybe it's time for McCain to start speaking about his kids.

And since when did a Veep candidate become soooo important?

Didn't the guy that Barry bought COKE from also sell to teenagers?

69 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:54:29am

This is going to backfire so bad on them.

I can't wait for her speech Wednesday!

70 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:54:41am

The kicker is that there are folks who are taking screen caps of these idiot postings. Do they really think that if they delete these numbnuts posts that it makes it okay?

Where's Markos to post a stern denunciation of this crap? Is he too busy posting his musings on Newsweek to notice? Heck, Democrat leaders still associate with Daily Kos, even after vile posting after vile posting remains for all to see.

I guess he doesn't mind his site used as a cesspool, or should I say septic system, although it looks like the crap's truly backing up for the world to see.

71 joncelli  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:54:53am

Obama's people and the MSM -- but I repeat myself -- have managed to find something to define Palin. She has to come out of the gate with a real barn-burner of a speech and then campaign like hell in order to redefine herself. I'm afraid there isn't going to be much of a convention bounce for the GOP, and McCain is falling further behind (51 to 43 according to Rasmussen, the most dependable poll).

72 Alaska Kim  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:55:10am

Good morning all.

All this talk about Sarah not being the mother is hysterical. It never ceases to amaze me the stuff people will pull out of their a$$.

73 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:55:14am

re: #67 FrogMarch

So now excitable Andy is diggin in the dirt on Bristol's boyfriend. What an asshole.

Levi Johnston is a "self-proclaimed fucking redneck".

74 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:55:19am

re: #19 Noam Chumpski

Hangin' with Terrorists: Good Judgement

Supporting your Daughter Through Tough Times: Reckless Parenting

Exactly.

75 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:55:28am

The progressives are so classy. Keep at it folks. You're going to do the Democrats real proud.

76 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:55:48am

re: #73 MandyManners

Levi Johnston is a "self-proclaimed fucking redneck".

[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

77 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:56:06am

re: #64 jcm

Nope, nor any mention that the marriage was bigamous. Obama's sole comment on Bristol was the only responsible thing to say -- kids are off limits, it's a non-issue -- so I'll give him credit for that. However, his supporters are showing their true colors. It's going to backfire on them big time.

78 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:56:24am

re: #69 Typicalwhitey

This is going to backfire so bad on them.

I can't wait for her speech Wednesday!

Is there going to be a convention tomorrow? I mean, there's Hurricane Hanna to consider.
//

79 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:56:24am

re: #67 FrogMarch

So now excitable Andy is diggin in the dirt on Bristol's boyfriend. What an asshole.

Dirt on a 17 year old in Alaska, drinking beer behind the gym, shooting at the neighbors no trespassing sign, speeding on a snowmobile! Incorrigible!

80 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:56:51am

re: #71 joncelli

and McCain is falling further behind (51 to 43 according to Rasmussen, the most dependable poll).

See my post #44 above. Some "bounce" was inevitable; and this one ain't much.

81 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:56:55am

re: #68 Ben Hur

Maybe it's time for McCain to start speaking about his kids.

And since when did a Veep candidate become soooo important?

Didn't the guy that Barry bought COKE from also sell to teenagers?

Jis triyin 2 mak it reel akordin 2 Diddy.

82 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:57:13am

re: #64 jcm

That is going to be my stock answer.

"Oh, I thought you were talking about Obama's mother."

83 jpkoch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:58:06am

I would love to be a fly on the Wall during a Kos and Obama conference call. Thanks goodness for caching. I can just see the people at Google going through thier 25TB of cached web pages in order to rip those Kos pages from History.

84 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:58:08am

re: #70 lawhawk

The kicker is that there are folks who are taking screen caps of these idiot postings. Do they really think that if they delete these numbnuts posts that it makes it okay?

Where's Markos to post a stern denunciation of this crap? Is he too busy posting his musings on Newsweek to notice? Heck, Democrat leaders still associate with Daily Kos, even after vile posting after vile posting remains for all to see.

I guess he doesn't mind his site used as a cesspool, or should I say septic system, although it looks like the crap's truly backing up for the world to see.

I think he revels in his site being used as a huge political cesspool. In factm I'll go so far as to say it may even be Markos himself making these postings under the names of sock puppets. I would not put it past him to use a sock puppet to smear a political opponent. Use the sock, and then delete the post later for plausible deniability.

Markos is beyond reprehensible, IMHO.

85 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:58:08am

re: #79 jcm

speeding on a snowmobile!

Liberals hate snowmobiles. They're even scarier than SUVs.

86 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:58:27am

re: #77 doppelganglander

Nope, nor any mention that the marriage was bigamous. Obama's sole comment on Bristol was the only responsible thing to say -- kids are off limits, it's a non-issue -- so I'll give him credit for that. However, his supporters are showing their true colors. It's going to backfire on them big time.

I'll give credit to BHO for his statement, but what else could he say? His supporters will keep digging the hole anyway.

87 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:58:31am

re: #64 jcm

If so it would be twisted to make him look like a conquering hero to have come from such a troubled background.

88 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:58:33am

re: #73 MandyManners

Levi Johnston is a "self-proclaimed fucking redneck".

and that is somehow worse than being good buddies with William Ayers.

89 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:58:54am

re: #84 Honorary Yooper


Yes he is and he shouldn't be working for Newsweek

90 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:59:07am

WHile channel surfering, I heard Juan Williams RIPPING into Daily Kos and the people that post/comment there.

91 canadianconservative  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:59:42am

Like it or not, the Dems are now tied to the Daily Kos. With the exception of Joe Biden, credit where due, ALL the Dem contenders went to the Kos Konvention to kiss the ring of anti-pope Markos Moulitsas....

Obama's protests to the contrary, the fact is, the Kos, and the Underground, and other assorted moonbat publications will continue this line of attack that will seal Obama's fate. Fact: the states the Latte Liberals of the Coasts contemptuously dismiss as "fly-over America" tends toward traditional values, and will rally to Palin and McCain.

I have posted Election predictions that will be updated as needed before the election.

92 SpringheelJack  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 8:59:44am

re: #49 ziggyelman

I am half kidding...but I REALLY, REALLY get the feeling the dems are going to find a way to get her off the ticket, they are that scared of her. So, unfair or not, someone needs to dig into the crap and see what they can find on Biden's family....and perhaps stop this sh*t once and for all.

It's Obama's style. It's how he won his US Senate seat, by threatening to unseal Rep opponent Ryan's divorce records, and splatter Ryan's personal sex life all over. Rather than allow that, and have his son see those records all over the Internet, Ryan bowed out and let Obama win by default.

In Obama's 1996 state senate race, he won by invalidating the ballot status of all the other challengers.

Obama's attitude is "Why win by being the better candidate, if you can eliminate your opponents by playing dirty?

93 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:00:22am

re: #82 Ben Hur

That is going to be my stock answer.

"Oh, I thought you were talking about Obama's mother."

Being the well know "right winger" I got asked this morning about, "What do you think about Palin's daughter?" I said "'bout the same as I think about Obama's mother." The look I got was priceless.

94 armytramp  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:00:43am

Hm. And the allegations that the baby was an illegitimate child of the FATHER or BROTHER of Bristol have also disappeared down the memory hole, along with nearly 2000 comments about white trash, trailer trash, hypocritical Christians, Bible thumpers, stupid rural people, yadda yadda.

We have seen the face of the enemy, and they are one nasty bunch of sewer mouthed lying rats.

Palin is SO getting my vote.

A friend of mine, a professional woman, just had a Down's Syndrome baby as well. She's a Democrat.

This round of smears did not go over well.

I'm not saying she's voting for Palin, but this episode has hurt the Dems. A lot.

95 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:00:52am

This is gonna hurt the Obama campaign. They have let this monster go unchecked for too long, and I don't think it can be reigned in. They can talk values and "middle class" all day long, but when their biggest supporters are spewing this filth, we see what the Democrat party is really made up of.

96 colin nelson  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:00:52am

#63 JS. Thanks for the heads-up. I tend to try and avoid CBC news since it is not in any real sense 'news' - rather it is a tarted up spin machine for the left and increasingly the hard left.

Since the CBC got rid of Mr. Berman (spelling) who was the network news chief for years, do you know who has taken his place? I think the net has moved even further left since his departure.

97 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:00:58am

Time for lunch - BBL

98 JSK1121  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:01:33am

re: #93 jcm

Being the well know "right winger" I got asked this morning about, "What do you think about Palin's daughter?" I said "'bout the same as I think about Obama's mother." The look I got was priceless.

You forgot to add; "only Bristol Palin won't give birth to hell-spawn."

99 SpringheelJack  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:01:55am

re: #52 FrogMarch

That's why Obama's media operatives are trying so hard to destroy the RNC.

/We must break from the RNC to bring you Breaking Gustav coverage - Up next some bore in a windbreaker.

Meanwhile, they ignored Gov Jindel's news conference on measures being taken to deal with Gustav, in favor of bores in windbreakers

100 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:01:57am

re: #88 FrogMarch

and that is somehow worse than being good buddies with William Ayers.

Only for those without a clue.

101 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:02:22am

re: #90 Ben Hur

WHile channel surfering, I heard Juan Williams RIPPING into Daily Kos and the people that post/comment there.

Why is no one ripping into Colmes?

102 kuffar  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:03:01am

I think, the allegations that Daily Kos and the Obama camp was real... They are going to expunge that account I bet. Shame, probably trace back to Axelrod or Obama...

103 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:03:25am

re: #101 MandyManners

Why is no one ripping into Colmes?

No meat on Skeletor to rip into.......

104 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:03:49am
The cause of Joe's ire was this email statement Bubriski released to the Miami Herald [emphasis added]:


Palin was a supporter of Pat Buchanan, a right-winger or as many Jews call him: a Nazi sympathizer.

WTF?

105 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:04:28am
106 victor_yugo  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:04:34am

re: #100 MandyManners

Only for those without a clue.

Which doesn't exactly narrow it down.

107 jpkoch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:04:37am

re: #71 joncelli

Obama's people and the MSM -- but I repeat myself -- have managed to find something to define Palin. She has to come out of the gate with a real barn-burner of a speech and then campaign like hell in order to redefine herself. I'm afraid there isn't going to be much of a convention bounce for the GOP, and McCain is falling further behind (51 to 43 according to Rasmussen, the most dependable poll).


An 8 point bounce? Even that snoozer Dukakis got an 18 point bounce n 1988. And Slick Willie got a 15 point bounce in 1992. Kerry managed 10 points in 2004. The highlight of the Denver Convention was Slick Willie, not Obama. Buyer's Remorse is beginning to set in.

Obama should be leading McCain by 20 points, not 8. Like 2000, this is suppose to be a Democratic Year. Call it want you want, but my guess is that the Obama Staff is worried.

108 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:04:45am

And they list the miscreants and their alleged crimes, many not even from Minnesota.

1 - 15 of 257 results

Page 1 of 18

/and counting . . .

109 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:04:57am

re: #104 Typicalwhitey

WTF?

Obama spokesman Mark Bubriski

110 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:05:41am
111 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:05:56am

re: #88 FrogMarch

and that is somehow worse than being good buddies with William Ayers.

How many news stories will contain Levi's name compared to Ayers in the next 2 months? I think we know what the answer will be. We also know what the answer should be. One has a far greater bearing on the candidates' character and fitness than the other. Palin's daughter is going through a difficult and exciting time with the support of her family. Obama had a longstanding relationship with Ayers - an unreformed and unrepentant terrorist who plotted multiple bombings and terror attacks that would have resulted in murdering Americans (including soldiers at Fort Dix, but that plot was thwarted when that particular bomb blew up in the faces of those making the bomb, including Ayers' then girlfriend).

112 joncelli  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:06:26am

re: #91 canadianconservative

Do you have an analysis of the US House of Representatives elections? (And your analysis of Electoral College/US Senate looks right.)

113 SpringheelJack  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:06:30am

re: #64 jcm


Any mention that Obama was conceived out of wedlock?

....the couple married on February 2, 1961 in Maui, Hawaii.[6][1]

On August 4, 1961, at age 18, she gave birth to her first child whom she named Barack Hussein Obama II.


Obama was born out of wedlock as well. Obama Sr was already married in Kenya (to a woman to whom he went back to after leaving Ann Dunham), so the US marriage to Obama's mom was invalid from the beginning

114 faraway  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:07:18am

re: #31 Typicalwhitey

How do you save that so it doesn't disappear?

FightThePalinSmears is on the job. Going where Kossacks dare not go.

115 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:08:14am

re: #107 jpkoch

Obama should be leading McCain by 20 points, not 8. Like 2000, this is suppose to be a Democratic Year. Call it want you want, but my guess is that the Obama Staff is worried.

I'd say the Obama camp is shitting bricks this morning.

116 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:08:20am

I have mentioned this before, I am not an attorney (and don't play one on tv) but through happenstance, a wad of corporate lawyers work in the department I manage. One is a expert on libel and slander. She was most interested in watching all of this because apparently there is a move afoot to find some particularly odious Blog postings and do a first amendment challenge. The issue is for the Blog owner. For something to be libel it has to be known to be false when published. This is the hard part to prove. So when the Kos blogs first starting this up there is plausablility by Markos that he did not know what the truth was. However clearly by Monday the truth was out there and since it does involve a minor and someone who is not a public figure, Markos may have a legal requirement to remove it when he is certain it is false.

117 TalkinKamel  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:08:32am

It doesn't look as if the accusation that Palin supports Buchanan is especially plausible: [Link: www.haaretz.com...]

118 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:08:34am

The answer is increasingly that to avoid the rooting around in the garbage of a candidates youth or their relatives parties will turn to people like Obama. He has almost no past, only a story. The problem with Obama is that he is not a complete fake, if he was a real Manchurian Candidate, with a cover lifted from the name of a child that died 30 years ago and ID cards manufactured in the Lubyanka, he would be better at this and there would be no hesitation in bring out reams of good looking paper, birth certificate, work records, medical, etc. for the public to admire.

119 Charles  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:09:01am

re: #70 lawhawk

The kicker is that there are folks who are taking screen caps of these idiot postings. Do they really think that if they delete these numbnuts posts that it makes it okay?

I don't even bother taking screenshots any more. What's the point? They can't possibly deny it.

120 Vergeltung  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:09:03am

re: #90 Ben Hur

WHile channel surfering, I heard Juan Williams RIPPING into Daily Kos and the people that post/comment there.

he was doing the same thing on Fox last night. very cool of him I thought.

121 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:09:08am

re: #110 Ben Hur

'King Of Voiceovers' Don LaFontaine Dies

This sux.

Grab your joy-stick!

122 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:09:21am

I can top the Down-The-Memory-Hole angle.

I just did a search to find the age of Piper and Willow, the two younger daughters, and came across a website that said Daily Kos is to be credited for debunking the rumor.

Previous to this announcement, Internet rumors had suggested that the Palin family's youngest son, Trig Palin, was in fact Bristol's baby and not Sarah's. Photographic evidence posted at Daily Kos showing a visibly pregnant Sarah Palin seemed to discredit these rumors.
123 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:09:22am

Rush is LIVID!

124 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:09:37am

re: #101 MandyManners

Why is no one ripping into Colmes?

I think Rush is just getting ready to. LOL

125 jpkoch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:09:52am

Palin was a supporter of Pat Buchanan, a right-winger or as many Jews call him: a Nazi sympathizer.

Actually, Buchanan doesn't have much good to say about Palin, but does about Obama. Obama, btw is very close friends to a home grown terrorist (Ayers). The Weather Underground actually did murder people. If association with Buchanan is all they can come up with, well photos of Ayers and Obama together looking deep into each others eyes with affection will get the point across.

And the Fun is just beginning.

126 The Other Les  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:10:02am
127 J.S.  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:10:09am

re: #92 SpringheelJack

And, of course, one must not forget that The One then runs about crowing how he's engaged in a "new" type of politics -- "None of those dirty tricks now!" (while he's a master of dirty politics -- Chicago style) and then the MSM repeatedly asserts how "clean" Obama is...

128 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:10:09am

re: #104 Typicalwhitey

WTF?



She wore the button once while mayor when Buchanan visited.

She promptly responded to the story in a letter to the editor, saying that "the article may have left your readers with the perception that I am endorsing this candidate, as opposed to welcoming his visit to Wasilla. As mayor, I will welcome all the candidates in Wasilla."

Republican vice presidential candidate Governor Sarah Palin sports an Israeli flag in her lapel and displays an Israel flag in her office window despite the tiny Jewish population in her state. Republicans say "that says it all" concerning what they charge is Democratic propaganda that she once backed Pat Buchanan, whose name is anathema to most Jews.

129 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:11:00am

re: #123 Typicalwhitey

Rush is LIVID!

Palin is the new Clarence Thomas!

130 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:11:09am

re: #113 SpringheelJack

Obama was born out of wedlock as well. Obama Sr was already married in Kenya (to a woman to whom he went back to after leaving Ann Dunham), so the US marriage to Obama's mom was invalid from the beginning

Yes, but did Ann Dunham know that?

131 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:11:18am

re: #111 lawhawk

How many news stories will contain Levi's name compared to Ayers in the next 2 months? I think we know what the answer will be. We also know what the answer should be. One has a far greater bearing on the candidates' character and fitness than the other. Palin's daughter is going through a difficult and exciting time with the support of her family. Obama had a longstanding relationship with Ayers - an unreformed and unrepentant terrorist who plotted multiple bombings and terror attacks that would have resulted in murdering Americans (including soldiers at Fort Dix, but that plot was thwarted when that particular bomb blew up in the faces of those making the bomb, including Ayers' then girlfriend).

How soon before the unhinged start screeching that Palin's FSIL's family are a bunch of Neocon Jews and that her choice was determined by little men in Tel Aviv?

132 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:11:49am

re: #71 joncelli

Obama's people and the MSM -- but I repeat myself -- have managed to find something to define Palin. She has to come out of the gate with a real barn-burner of a speech and then campaign like hell in order to redefine herself. I'm afraid there isn't going to be much of a convention bounce for the GOP, and McCain is falling further behind (51 to 43 according to Rasmussen, the most dependable poll).

Only one poll counts with this group and it's in November. Nice try though.

133 TalkinKamel  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:11:53am

And, at this point, it looks as if Pat is more of an Obama supporter than he is for McCain, and Palin:

134 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:12:16am

Rush is playing the "punished with a baby clip"!

135 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:12:32am

re: #123 Typicalwhitey

Rush is LIVID!

Thanks. Just tuned him in. And, yes, he is majorly peeved. I seriously hope he rips the left a new one over this.

136 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:12:46am
137 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:13:23am

The Ottoman Turks solved the problem of getting honest government workers without embarrasing family connections by kidnapping Christian children and castrating them.

138 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:13:32am

Something that doesn't exist got 1,960 comments!

139 TalkinKamel  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:13:35am

re: #110 Ben Hur

OT---I am sorry to hear that, Ben.

140 CanadianBacon  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:13:37am

Alas, poor Arcxix, we knew you well...

And good riddance to bad rubbish. In other news, Marxos has decided in the interests of consistency to deleted everything else ever posted on Kos.

141 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:13:52am

re: #136 taxfreekiller

that's actually very funny!

142 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:14:09am

re: #130 Dianna

Yes, but did Ann Dunham know that?

Probably not. But if they're going after Bristol to get to Palin. It's just fair to point out the circumstances of their candidates conception and birth. Not making any moral judgments, just, "fine Bristol made a mistake, what about Ann?"

143 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:14:12am
144 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:14:19am

re: #99 SpringheelJack

Meanwhile, they ignored Gov Jindel's news conference on measures being taken to deal with Gustav, in favor of bores in windbreakers

I was buying lunch meat at the deli counter yesterday, and the topic of Gustav vs. Katrina came up. One of the workers mentioned Jindal's speech (she didn't know his name), saying "He really knows what he's doing there. They've learned their lesson from last time." I expect Jindal made a positive impression on a lot of people who are only vaguely aware of politics.

145 TalkinKamel  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:14:41am

re: #131 MandyManners

I'm afraid the unhinged are working on something along those lines, even as we speak. . .

146 joncelli  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:14:45am

re: #132 Noam Chumpski

Heh? I'm just trying to alert people to the situation. I've been here long enough and posted often enough that people should know I'm not a moby.

147 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:15:01am

re: #122 Silhouette

What about the fact they got the photos from Free Republic?

148 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:15:12am

Why is Joe Scarbourough so surprised that someone would call Pukanan a Nazi sympathizer.

He is.

149 maddogg  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:15:38am

The Kos Kids are afraid of this woman, bigtime.

150 J.S.  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:15:56am

re: #116 big steve

I also wonder about the International "news" reporting -- the "reporting" that is done here in Canada -- last night on the evening "news" with this report about Bristol, etc, it definitely struck me as being libelous (it stank big time)...but the "reporter" who filed the "report" has been sued for slander in the past (it's the Canadian tax payers who pick up the tab, btw...and I've also heard that when Canadians try to uncover just how much this libelous shit-bag of a "reporter" has cost the Canadian taxpayer, it's covered up -- the Corporation, the CBC, doesn't tell us. What a corrupt organization. The sooner the CBC is privatized, the better.)

151 kynna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:16:03am

re: #123 Typicalwhitey

Rush is LIVID!

Thanks for mentioning. I forgot to turn him on. I knew he'd be amazing today.

152 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:16:24am

re: #110 Ben Hur

'King Of Voiceovers' Don LaFontaine Dies

This sux.

Yep, too bad. And only 68 years old.

LaFontaine's agent confirms to Entertainment Tonight that he passed away from Pneumothorax, the presence of air or gas in the pleural cavity which house the lungs. The official cause of death has not been released.

June was telling me recently that lots of people still die these days pneumonia and pneumothorax. It should always be taken seriously.

153 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:16:52am

re: #149 maddogg

The Kos Kids are afraid of this woman, bigtime.

She stands for so much that they are against.

154 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:17:07am

re: #146 joncelli

Heh? I'm just trying to alert people to the situation. I've been here long enough and posted often enough that people should know I'm not a moby.

Apologies. Wasn't intending to harass you. :) Just not a fan of polls - they're rarely accurate.

155 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:17:21am

The point to make is we will never hear of young daughters of the Dems getting pregnant, cause they would be to an abortion clinic faster than the bats of Pelosi's eyes.

156 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:17:44am

re: #148 Ben Hur

Why is Joe Scarbourough so surprised that someone would call Pukanan a Nazi sympathizer.

He is.

Because, like most liberal media hacks, Joe Scarborough figured Pat Buchanan was a mainstream Republican, and Fred Phelps is a regular Christian conservative.

157 Racer X  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:17:47am

re: #108 Killian Bundy

And they list the miscreants and their alleged crimes, many not even from Minnesota.

/and counting . . .

Thats a keeper.

Commander Rove will be interested.

158 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:17:58am

re: #142 jcm

Well, Ann's dead, which means she can't respond.

It's a point, but it's not one I'd use, much.

159 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:18:17am

re: #143 Fat Jolly Penguin

DUmmies holding a Sarah Palin nickname contest.

Stay classy, DUmmies.

160 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:18:22am

re: #151 kynna

Thanks for mentioning. I forgot to turn him on. I knew he'd be amazing today.


I have rarely seen him as angry as he is today!

161 galloping granny  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:18:40am

KOS is covering his ass, trying to protect himself from a libel suit over these spurious allegations. What KOS does not know is that some enterprising Lizard waded into the swamp and took an entire collection of screen shots. Sorry KOS, way too little, way too late. How do you say Goose ------------> Cooked

162 joncelli  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:18:59am

re: #154 Noam Chumpski

Yeah, they should be taken with a handful of salt at all times. That said, reasonably accurate polls like Rasmussen should at least be paid attention to. And thanks for the apology. ;-)

163 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:19:00am
That diary isn’t the only one deleted; everything posted by “arcxix” has disappeared: Daily Kos :: Diaries :: arcxix.

What's the odds that arcxix is a Markos sock puppet?

164 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:19:29am

re: #79 jcm

Dirt on a 17 year old in Alaska, drinking beer behind the gym, shooting at the neighbors no trespassing sign, speeding on a snowmobile! Incorrigible!

the audacity of blind faith.

So now a 16 year old's my space page is more important that an presidential candidates ties to a home grown terrorist.

165 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:19:29am

re: #157 Racer X

Thats a keeper.

Commander Rove will be interested.

And if those felonies go through to conviction that means "no vote for you!"

I love that they voluntarily take themselves out of the election process.

166 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:19:42am
167 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:19:57am

What was Barry on when he was 17?

168 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:19:59am

re: #150 J.S.

This is also why the MSM is very careful in this case to report on the "rumors" as apposed to the substance of the rumor. That way they can claim it was clear they were not reporting something as fact.

And by the way, I will wager a billion dollars that Markos has been in touch with his attorney over the weekend regarding this.

169 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:19:59am

In the Hot Air headlines section, there's a DU post which I recommend to everyone. It's amazing.

170 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:20:10am

re: #143 Fat Jolly Penguin

DUmmies holding a Sarah Palin nickname contest.

I don't know, but Madam Vice President works for me! Just saying.

171 politicalinsomniac  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:20:11am

I love how the Moonbats are so eager to accept dirt on Republicans at face value (Sarah Palin is not the mother!) but distrust all inquiries into, say, Obama's shady political alliances...

172 BackwardsBoy  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:20:11am

Brace yourself, Effie. While going through my morning ritual of visiting other conservative sites, I noticed a lot of lefty trolls whom I didn't recognize in the comments, even Ace noticed this, and Michelle Malkin notes that the MoveOnMorons have a $5K reward out for any dirt that can be dug up against Sarah Palin's family. I see a concerted effort to smear this fine woman from the leftist moonbats, be on guard. I mean, we all knew this was coming, but it still disgusts me. I can only hope that there are some lawyers for the GOP that will start suing for defamation when there is evidence that the smears aren't true. These idiots must be stopped and draggin' their dumb asses into court should only be the start. I also hope that the smears can be somehow traced back to the Vapid One so we can all see just how the Chicago political machine will work on a nationwide level. Conservative action alert anyone?

173 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:20:28am

re: #147 Dianna

What about the fact they got the photos from Free Republic?

Figures.

It is the sheer gaul. Not only do they not shame Kos for spreading the rumor, the congratulate them on debunking it.

I'd be livid but it is so typical. Like the Dems claiming credit for helping Iraqis.

174 kynna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:20:51am

re: #149 maddogg

The Kos Kids are afraid of this woman, bigtime.

They were afraid of Hillary! too. Maybe they're afraid of all women. Thing is, they need to see what happens when you poke a stick at a baby bear. Mama bears gets meeeeeeeean.

175 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:21:14am

re: #145 TalkinKamel

I'm afraid the unhinged are working on something along those lines, even as we speak. . .

I'd be disappointed if they weren't.

176 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:21:14am

re: #155 Beach Lover

The point to make is we will never hear of young daughters of the Dems getting pregnant, cause they would be to an abortion clinic faster than the bats of Pelosi's eyes.

You know I was going to go down the attractiveness road of Dem daughters versus Rep Daughters but you know what, just don't want be like them so I won't.

177 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:21:27am

Silky Pony's baby mama was off limits.

178 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:21:31am

re: #156 Kenneth

Because, like most liberal media hacks, Joe Scarborough figured Pat Buchanan was a mainstream Republican, and Fred Phelps is a regular Christian conservative.

Scarborough was a GOP House member from Florida, and I think he's nuts to take up for Buchanan.

179 canadianconservative  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:21:34am

re: #112 joncelli

I'm looking at the House as a complete wildcard now. I want to see how the drilling issue plays out, and whether the GOP can ride on McCain/Palin's anti corruption and pro-drilling coattails. With approval at 9% by some estimates, I'm of the view that anything can happen, ranging from the conventional view that the generic ballot will guatantee that the GOP loses an additional 7-9 seats, to the unrealistic, but remotely possible at this point, that the GOP could either narrow the Gap, or even send San Fran Nan back to Minority leader status...

180 vagabond trader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:21:48am

Since the Obama was proud to give a blood sample for a publicity stunt AIDS test, why not do the same by agreeing to a drug screen? I sure as hell want to know if an admitted coke user who wants the job of POTUS remains drug free.

181 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:22:00am

re: #161 galloping granny

And he can't get away from it, because the diaries are moderated.

I wonder what the hell Kos is thinking, sometimes, given what gets put up there in the diaries. The comments section I understand, but the diaries?

182 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:22:10am

re: #162 joncelli

Yeah, they should be taken with a handful of salt at all times. That said, reasonably accurate polls like Rasmussen should at least be paid attention to. And thanks for the apology. ;-)

Yeah, I'm nothing if not apologetic. heh... I'll go further and admit that Rasmussen does a decent job.

Though sometimes the lead is within the margin of error. :)

183 armytramp  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:22:22am

Ho ho.

Now Obama is saying he has more experience than Palin.

The only thing Obama has more experience with than Palin is direct personal experience with the plight of the unwed teen mother.

That being the case, he should have moved a lot more quickly to shut down those ugly rumors about Palin.

But he sure waiting a long time to do it. Sure did.

184 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:22:28am

re: #164 FrogMarch

the audacity of blind faith.

So now a 16 year old's my space page is more important that an presidential candidates ties to a home grown terrorist.

I really don't know what is on my 2 daughter's facebook pages. They are both now in College and well behaved good students. I am sure my wife might know. I have to start trusting them sometime.

185 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:22:39am

re: #163 Honorary Yooper

Non-existent. Seriously.

186 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:22:41am

Right. And thank G-d she's not smoking cigarettes....

187 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:22:51am

re: #169 Dianna

In the Hot Air headlines section, there's a DU post which I recommend to everyone. It's amazing.

There's a hilarious comment on that link:

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6. Oh Pleez

This place is chaos. It always has been. People post shit, think better of it, sometimes retract it, sometimes don't. It's a lunatic asylum where, every so often, something useful and good floats to the top of a sea of nonsense.

188 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:23:16am

re: #173 Silhouette

It is the sheer gaul.

You mean him?

189 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:23:18am

re: #158 Dianna

Well, Ann's dead, which means she can't respond.

It's a point, but it's not one I'd use, much.

If folks would stay on issues, I wouldn't. Because frankly I don't give a fig. What matters about Ann is she is the first of a long line of influential progressive radical Marxists in Obama's life.

But if someone brings up Bristol against Gov. Palin, I will smack 'em with the chronology of Obama birth and the parents marital circumstances.

I refuse to play their game, let them determine the ground we fight on. Defending, excusing or explaining Bristol we let them determine the ground.

190 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:23:50am

re: #181 Dianna

And he can't get away from it, because the diaries are moderated.

I wonder what the hell Kos is thinking, sometimes, given what gets put up there in the diaries. The comments section I understand, but the diaries?

I wonder how much he really monitors things, and how much he leaves up to others while he's schmoozing with the Dems and the MSM. It just looks like the lunatics run the asylum.

191 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:24:03am

Rush on it.

192 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:24:13am

re: #178 Ward Cleaver

Scarborough was a GOP House member from Florida, and I think he's nuts to take up for Buchanan.

Maybe he needs him as an Allie against Mathews and Olberman? Might just be news room politics?

193 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:24:14am

re: #164 FrogMarch

the audacity of blind faith.

So now a 16 year old's my space page is more important than a presidential candidates ties to a home grown terrorist.


fixed.

194 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:24:35am

re: #180 vagabond trader

Since the Obama was proud to give a blood sample for a publicity stunt AIDS test, why not do the same by agreeing to a drug screen? I sure as hell want to know if an admitted coke user who wants the job of POTUS remains drug free.

The Rove is strong with this one.

I like the way you think!

195 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:24:37am

re: #183 armytramp

Ho ho.

Now Obama is saying he has more experience than Palin.

The only thing Obama has more experience with than Palin is direct personal experience with the plight of the unwed teen mother.

That being the case, he should have moved a lot more quickly to shut down those ugly rumors about Palin.


But he sure waiting a long time to do it. Sure did.


And did you see he is saying this because his campaign has more budget and people working for it than the town in Alaska Palin was mayor of.....conveniently forgetting the size of the budget and number of state employees of the state of Alaska itself.

196 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:24:42am

He sold COKE?

I thought he just took it.

WOW.

Poisoning children.

197 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:24:53am

re: #143 Fat Jolly Penguin

DUmmies holding a Sarah Palin nickname contest.

She's got one.......
Barracuda!

198 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:24:58am

re: #180 vagabond trader

Since the Obama was proud to give a blood sample for a publicity stunt AIDS test, why not do the same by agreeing to a drug screen? I sure as hell want to know if an admitted coke user who wants the job of POTUS remains drug free.

That's about on the level of Dems who insist GWB is still drinking and using coke.

199 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:25:01am

re: #172 BackwardsBoy

MoveOnMorons have a $5K reward out for any dirt that can be dug up against Sarah Palin's family.

As always, the hate comes first, and they'll find something to be outraged about.

200 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:25:34am

re: #172 BackwardsBoy

Brace yourself, Effie. While going through my morning ritual of visiting other conservative sites, I noticed a lot of lefty trolls whom I didn't recognize in the comments, even Ace noticed this, and Michelle Malkin notes that the MoveOnMorons have a $5K reward out for any dirt that can be dug up against Sarah Palin's family. I see a concerted effort to smear this fine woman from the leftist moonbats, be on guard. I mean, we all knew this was coming, but it still disgusts me. I can only hope that there are some lawyers for the GOP that will start suing for defamation when there is evidence that the smears aren't true. These idiots must be stopped and draggin' their dumb asses into court should only be the start. I also hope that the smears can be somehow traced back to the Vapid One so we can all see just how the Chicago political machine will work on a nationwide level. Conservative action alert anyone?

Soros is directly behind this.

201 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:26:06am

re: #194 Occasional Reader

The Rove is strong with this one.

LOL....

202 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:26:10am

re: #177 Ben Hur

Silky Pony's baby mama was off limits.

Yep. When holy and precious democrats slip up - they quietly go away.
Nice soft landing for the pony.

What ever happened to Spitzer? We don' t hear mention of him anymore either.

203 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:26:40am

re: #196 Ben Hur

He sold COKE?

I thought he just took it.

WOW.

Poisoning children.

Obama sold coke? link?

204 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:27:06am

re: #183 armytramp

Ho ho.

Now Obama is saying he has more experience than Palin.

The only thing Obama has more experience with than Palin is direct personal experience with the plight of the unwed teen mother.

That being the case, he should have moved a lot more quickly to shut down those ugly rumors about Palin.

But he sure waiting a long time to do it. Sure did.

Why is he comparing himself with her? Biden is her counter-part.

205 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:27:15am

re: #172 BackwardsBoy

the MoveOnMorons have a $5K reward out for any dirt that can be dug up against Sarah Palin's family.

is there a direct link on this?

206 J.S.  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:27:29am

re: #168 big steve

I'm not a lawyer (although I've read about libel laws -- editors, etc., need to know the basics..), and I don't think that claims that "Why, I'm just reporting a rumor! a rumor, I tell you!" will save you from a libel suit (the laws in Canada are also different here -- it's much easier to win a libel suit in Canada than in the U.S.) (otherwise one could imagine that I could go around and state: "Individual X is a unrepentant criminal, he's committed untold number of crimes, according to the local rumors..." -- that should never make it into a MSM piece without thoughts about lawsuits, malicious slander, etc.

207 joncelli  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:27:40am

re: #182 Noam Chumpski

True enough, and it depends on who's leaning which way, and whether they're registered voters as opposed to likely voters...it's a hash sometimes. That's why I try to stay focussed and not put TOO much credence in polls.

208 vagabond trader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:27:55am

re: #194 Occasional Reader

Thanks. I have been referred to as a magnificent b^tch. bwhhahahahahahahaha!

209 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:28:03am

re: #203 FrogMarch

Obama sold coke? link?


I thought Rush just said that.

210 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:28:18am

re: #189 jcm

I'm just going to say, "What does Bristol have to do with any issue? Nothing. So. What about drilling?"

211 SouthAmericanWay  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:28:54am

The left is playing a very wise game in this election: their candidate speaks about decency, while his surrogates in the press and on the web trash conservatives with no shame.

We MUST answer fire with fire. Let us not be on the defensive, but let us post and publish our attacks: from Biden's plagiarism, his real estate, his family's corrupt links, and Congressional earmarks to Obama's links with the Chicago political mafia and Marxist-terrorist underground.

All we already know, as well as all that may be unearthed, has to be repeated over and over again: THEY must be on the defensive.

212 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:29:04am

re: #206 J.S.

I'm not a lawyer (although I've read about libel laws -- editors, etc., need to know the basics..), and I don't think that claims that "Why, I'm just reporting a rumor! a rumor, I tell you!" will save you from a libel suit (the laws in Canada are also different here -- it's much easier to win a libel suit in Canada than in the U.S.) (otherwise one could imagine that I could go around and state: "Individual X is a unrepentant criminal, he's committed untold number of crimes, according to the local rumors..." -- that should never make it into a MSM piece without thoughts about lawsuits, malicious slander, etc.


winning a slander or libel lawsuit in the US has only occured about 5% of the time, or so I am being told at this very minute. It is extremely hard to prove.

213 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:29:06am

re: #204 MandyManners

Why is he comparing himself with her? Biden is her counter-part.


Just one of the many curious things about the last few days!

214 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:29:15am

re: #209 Ben Hur

I thought Rush just said that.

If he did, I sure hope he can back that up. It's a hell of an allegation.

IIRC a Hillary staffer dropped the "maybe Obama sold coke" line, and was fired for it.

215 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:29:34am

Rush...

Sarah, a non-domesticated women, just what the liberals say a women should be.... but they hate her.

216 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:29:36am

It's funny reading the comments at the left/liberal fever swamps. The things that get them hating Sarah Palin, are the same things I love about her.

Including this picture of the next Vice-President of the United States.

What's not to like?

217 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:29:48am

re: #189 jcm

If folks would stay on issues, I wouldn't. Because frankly I don't give a fig. What matters about Ann is she is the first of a long line of influential progressive radical Marxists in Obama's life.
But if someone brings up Bristol against Gov. Palin, I will smack 'em with the chronology of Obama birth and the parents marital circumstances.

I refuse to play their game, let them determine the ground we fight on. Defending, excusing or explaining Bristol we let them determine the ground.

I wonder if his immersion in Marxism and friends with Marxists was an unconscious attempt to get his mother to pay attention to him.

218 vagabond trader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:29:59am

re: #198 doppelganglander

Not really, I would ask politely.

219 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:30:14am

re: #214 Occasional Reader

If he did, I sure hope he can back that up. It's a hell of an allegation.

IIRC a Hillary staffer dropped the "maybe Obama sold coke" line, and was fired for it.

I hadn't heard it before.

He does write about it in his book - that he used to use.

I may of mis-heard him.

220 kynna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:30:40am

Rush is great today! I was trying to take down a few choice quotes but the came at me so fast I just had to stop and listen. LOL.

221 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:30:43am

re: #185 Dianna

Non-existent. Seriously.

Thought I'd ask anyway. I know there are those who do use sock puppets on their own blogs (Glen Greenwald comes to mind).

222 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:30:55am

OT - yahoo. headline watch

New Orleans mayor: Please don't come home
Bush to address convention tonight via satellite
Thai prime minister declares emergency in capital
Hanna lashes Bahamas, threatens US East Coast
Stocks jump as oil tumbles on relief over Gustav
Study says smoking may hurt women more than men

Compare to Tuesday of the Dem convention, all six headlines

Former Gov. Warner: Party must seize opportunity
Dems rip into McCain at Obama's convention (AP)
Edgy Democrats await Clinton's convention speech (AP)
AT&T has high profile presence at Dem convention (AP)
Obama camp mulls shortened roll call (Politico)
A convention comeuppance for Bill Clinton (AP)

My comment on Tuesday of last week was "I can't wait to see the headlines during the GOP convention." I was guessing it would be half-Mccain, and half-Obama. Boy was I wrong.

Is McCain mentioned once?!

223 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:31:13am

re: #204 MandyManners

Why is he comparing himself with her? Biden is her counter-part.


Rovian isn't it......because Obama has been all about style over substance and now he has someone out style pointing him. As mentioned, Rove said this six month's ago, it is really easy to knock this guy off message.

224 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:31:41am

So the KosKidz are doing the Bristol Stomp, eh.

Very classy.

225 maddogg  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:31:47am

Big story now, doesn't mean spit in 2 weeks. If this is the best they can do, they are up to their necks in their own dung. Leftys are notoriously low an character, and Mrs. Palin will rub their noses in their own poop before this is over. This is an opportunity for her. She had to know this would be coming, yet she did not choose to hide from the storm. She must have been confident she could prevail. We will see.

226 cblesz  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:31:56am

It is time for the McCain camp or the RNC to bring back Obama's greatest hits: Rev Wright, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, etc. REMIND the general public about this guy.

227 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:32:04am

re: #213 scottishbuzzsaw

Just one of the many curious things about the last few days!

Poor bastards couldn't find their asses with a GPS.

228 armytramp  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:32:30am

re: #195 big steve

And did you see he is saying this because his campaign has more budget and people working for it than the town in Alaska Palin was mayor of.....conveniently forgetting the size of the budget and number of state employees of the state of Alaska itself.


OK fair is fair.

All I can recall is that he hangs with a terrorist from the Weather Underground.

Selective memory's a bitch.

If he can forget Palin is a governor, I can forget he's barely spent any time in the Senate.

229 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:32:45am

re: #204 MandyManners

Why is he comparing himself with her? Biden is her counter-part.

Obama always shows what he's thinking or is afraid of and does it accidentally (it's almost subconscious).

It's like when Bush (in a speech) inferred that there are people whose love of country isn't very strong and Obama comes out immediately and says, "I'm offended by that!"

It's like - we weren't talking about you, but now that you mention it...

Same thing here: He comes out and is all, "I'm more ready than Palin!" Well... you should be as you are the Democrat Pres Candidate, but now that you mention it, let me have a look.

His instincts are worse than an opossum talking a nightly walk in the road.

230 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:32:51am

If I were Sarah Palin, I'd come out swinging when she gives her convention speech. From all appearances she has a very happy family. We ALL have some family problems. It is how you deal with it that counts. And she and her husband has dealt with all the various issues, including her eldest son going off to war, while holding down the State of Alaska. Put that in your pipe liberal hypocrites.

231 vagabond trader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:33:23am

Connecticut delegation physically attacked after being dropped off at the convention. Nice

232 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:33:27am

re: #217 MandyManners

I wonder if his immersion in Marxism and friends with Marxists was an unconscious attempt to get his mother to pay attention to him.

Or his dad, he met his dad once, but wrote his first book about him.

233 cblesz  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:06am

Someone gimme color on Rush today...at work and cannot listen

234 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:07am

re: #223 big steve

Rovian isn't it......because Obama has been all about style over substance and now he has someone out style pointing him. As mentioned, Rove said this six month's ago, it is really easy to knock this guy off message.

Palin not only out-styles BHO. She out-substances him. (I know. It's not a word.)

235 kynna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:09am

re: #219 Ben Hur

I hadn't heard it before.

He does write about it in his book - that he used to use.

I may of mis-heard him.

I think you misheard him. He was 'reporting a rumor' as they say.

Feels good, don't it, Obambi?

But he read straight from Obama's book about his rampant drug/alcohol abuse and that, compared with Bristol Palin's incredible sin(/sarc), is pretty damning.

236 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:09am

re: #230 Nevergiveup

I'd come out swinging when she gives her convention speech. From all appearances she has a very happy family.

COUNT ON HER getting a standing ovation when she says just that.

237 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:13am

Rush is on it. Rarely listen to him but this is interesting.

Asked on the dead thread if anyone knew what the AP was refering to in the hit piece about the convention getting into Pallin seeing a lawyer?
Please forgive my reposting.

What is this about?
Twice in an AP snark piece about the RNC convention they mentioned "Revelations that the surprise female running mate had retained an attorney to deal with a scandal."
GOP convention script goes straight to re-write. Note the URL title is the even snarkier "measure of a nation ad libbing it." Time for AP to fire people, again?

238 armytramp  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:19am

Check this out at Publishers Weekly:

John McCain surprised most when he chose Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska to be his running mate—and the only book available on Palin is, unsurprisingly, from an equally dark horse publisher: Epicenter Press, which has its primary office in Kenmore, Wash., and publishes books about Alaska and the Pacific Northwest. Epicenter published Sarah: How a Hockey Mom Turned Alaska's Political Establishment Upside Down by Kaylene Johnson in April as a $19.95 hardcover featuring 50 photographs.

Publisher Kent Sturgis said the book had been doing well before the announcement; Epicenter went through its 7,000-copy first printing in less than a month, and then reprinted 3,000 more copies, which were all shipped by early Friday. "I walked in the door [Friday] morning and the first call was from Barnes & Noble; they wanted 15,000 copies," Sturgis said. "I’ve got an e-mail queue here that’s longer than I can see."

More at link.

239 Pyrocles  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:39am

NPR's news this morning concentrated solely on the hurricane and the protesters at the GOP convention. I don't remember them talking much about the protesters at the DNC convention last week; they were barely mentioned.

Of course, the GOP convention was shortened because of the hurricane...maybe I'm seeing bias where it doesn't exist? Phhht, it's NPR.

re: #222 Silhouette

OT - yahoo. headline watch


My comment on Tuesday of last week was "I can't wait to see the headlines during the GOP convention." I was guessing it would be half-Mccain, and half-Obama. Boy was I wrong.

Is McCain mentioned once?!

240 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:47am

Another diary down the memory hole:

McCain/Vagina08

241 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:34:59am

I don't understand how Bristol's situation is a political downer for Palin.

Doesn't it prove that she isn't a hypocrite, but practices what she preaches in being pro-life, even in the face of the main two abortion causes: a child with a medical problem and a young, unwed mother?

How many times have we heard them say, "Sure, easy for you to say. But what if you were in our dilemma?"

242 Iron Fist  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:35:25am

re: #85 Occasional Reader

Wonder what they think of motorcycles? They probably like those little scooters. What're they called? Vespas?

That's a very liberal mode of transportation. Now if they were only electric and could go about 25 MPH.

243 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:35:50am

One thing that has made me laugh is how the left, the MSM, and some blogs are all haughtily saying that Sarah Palin wasn't vetted and they are doing the vetting now and oh what an idiot McCain is he didn't vet her.

Yet....she was Rove's choice and he worked this. The same groups think that Karl is evil incarnate and the world's master chessman.

Does anyone out there not think that Karl Rove is about five steps ahead on this. I will bet that her convention speech was written three weeks ago.

244 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:35:55am

re: #219 Ben Hur

I hadn't heard it before.

He does write about it in his book - that he used to use.

I may of mis-heard him.

Anyway, this is all just smokescreen to distract us from Alaska's embarassing crackhead deficit.

245 MacDuff  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:36:12am

Deletion: The last refuge of a scoundrel

246 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:36:13am

re: #241 Silhouette

I don't understand how Bristol's situation is a political downer for Palin.

Doesn't it prove that she isn't a hypocrite, but practices what she preaches in being pro-life, even in the face of the main two abortion causes: a child with a medical problem and a young, unwed mother?

How many times have we heard them say, "Sure, easy for you to say. But what if you were in our dilemma?"

Exactly!

247 colin nelson  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:36:17am

#150 JS. If a libel and/or slander charge cannot be filed against that offensive (and now vanished) post, then why bother to have these remedies in the first place.

BTW, can you tell me (us) the name of the intrepid CBC 'reporter' who did the story? Taking the hint from Big Steve, it should be quite easy to prove that the reporter 'knew' the "Sarah is the mother" story was bogus by the time he(she) went to air with it.

248 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:36:27am
249 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:36:34am

re: #229 Noam Chumpski

Obama always shows what he's thinking or is afraid of and does it accidentally (it's almost subconscious).

It's like when Bush (in a speech) inferred that there are people whose love of country isn't very strong and Obama comes out immediately and says, "I'm offended by that!"

It's like - we weren't talking about you, but now that you mention it...

Same thing here: He comes out and is all, "I'm more ready than Palin!" Well... you should be as you are the Democrat Pres Candidate, but now that you mention it, let me have a look.

His instincts are worse than an opossum talking a nightly walk in the road.

What was it Dennis Miller saying about the color of skin not being as important as the thinness of BHO's skin?

250 irish rose  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:36:52am

re: #190 Ward Cleaver

I wonder how much he really monitors things, and how much he leaves up to others while he's schmoozing with the Dems and the MSM. It just looks like the lunatics run the asylum.

Exactly.
And this time it's going to cost him, big time.

He can't bury that shit fast enough.

251 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:37:33am

re: #232 jcm

Or his dad, he met his dad once, but wrote his first book about him.

I hadn't thought about that angle!

252 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:37:43am

I would be surprised if Palin would even mention one word about this.

253 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:38:15am

re: #242 Iron Fist

Wonder what they think of motorcycles? They probably like those little scooters. What're they called? Vespas?

That's a very liberal mode of transportation. Now if they were only electric and could go about 25 MPH.

There's a scooter "gang" that hangs around the UW in Seattle, this mob on scooters in goth dress. They try to pull off a "tough" attitude.... it doesn't work.

254 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:38:53am

re: #184 Nevergiveup

I really don't know what is on my 2 daughter's facebook pages. They are both now in College and well behaved good students. I am sure my wife might know. I have to start trusting them sometime.

Ask them to help you create your own. They will invariably link you as a friend. My daughters did and I have lots of fun with them. The response from their less circumspect friends is priceless when they realize I'm part of their friends group!

255 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:39:01am

re: #249 MandyManners

What was it Dennis Miller saying about the color of skin not being as important as the thinness of BHO's skin?

Miller's great...

256 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:39:33am

So at age 17 what was Obama doing with his life? Drinking, skipping school, taking drugs, hanging out. Hypocrite your name is Osama.

257 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:40:10am

re: #211 SouthAmericanWay

The left is playing a very wise game in this election: their candidate speaks about decency, while his surrogates in the press and on the web trash conservatives with no shame.

We MUST answer fire with fire. Let us not be on the defensive, but let us post and publish our attacks: from Biden's plagiarism, his real estate, his family's corrupt links, and Congressional earmarks to Obama's links with the Chicago political mafia and Marxist-terrorist underground.

All we already know, as well as all that may be unearthed, has to be repeated over and over again: THEY must be on the defensive.

The new Batman movie "The Dark Knight".
Great movie.
Same philosophical message as this.
Speaking for myself, I'm not ready to "publish any attacks".
On a public, published message, it's too easy to come off like a Kossack.
Posting, yes. Lizards will let me (or anybody) know when I went over the top. Publicly (independently) doing that would result in the fatal two words: "Too Late".

A man has to know his limits.

258 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:40:11am

re: #248 buzzsawmonkey
Great insight, as usual...

259 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:40:23am

re: #253 jcm

There's a scooter "gang" that hangs around the UW in Seattle, this mob on scooters in goth dress. They try to pull off a "tough" attitude

I'd be worried that if I happened on this "gang", I might get hurt.

You know... a hernia from laughing, that sort of thing.

260 Noam Chumpski  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:40:28am

re: #254 DaddyG

Ask them to help you create your own. They will invariably link you as a friend. My daughters did and I have lots of fun with them. The response from their less circumspect friends is priceless when they realize I'm part of their friends group!

You know that's really positive and clever parenting. Instead of being invasive and overbearing, you're now in the loop. Good thinking.

261 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:40:42am

re: #247 colin nelson


I watched NBC over the weekend, the were extremely careful in saying that this was an internet story and even flashed the KOS homepage. I am telling you everyone is lawyering up of this big time. The lawyers down the hall are all claiming they are working on a case, but there are some insider law blogs around and I'll see if I can find out what the jungle tom tom's are saying.

262 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:41:28am

OT

I watched part of NBC's coverage of Gustav from NOLA last night.
The entire part I watched was about the failures of Katrina, with continual references to the ongoing RNCC.

Nope, no media bias detected.
/

263 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:41:37am

re: #248 buzzsawmonkey

Because in a very real way it is a fight between the narratives of Obama and Palin.

Obama is the Disadvantaged Black Kid Who Made Good, going to elite schools and becoming the first serious black contender for the highest office in the land.

Palin is the "log cabin" candidate; the person of relatively ordinary background who grew up in the closest thing we still have to a wilderness, made good, and did so without the assistance of the elite school power structure and network.

Both are relatively new to politics, compared to old warhorses McCain and Biden. So the question is, will America embrace the "log cabin" narrative, or the affirmative-action elite-anointment narrative?

There are a lot more people, probably--black or white--who identify with the "log cabin" narrative. That is what scares the Obama campaign, and the media that support him, since both belong to the elite-anointment narrative.

And that is why this campaign will stay ugly.

Brilliant analysis. (Fess up. You're really Carl Rove.)

264 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:41:40am

Best quote from Rush so far...McCain campaign told Sarah they would be coming at her from all directions and said "are you ready for this?"

she replied..."Do you know the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull?
lipstick!"

love her!

265 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:41:49am

re: #248 buzzsawmonkey

Driving home from dropping my eldest daughter at school yesterday, my wife asked me what I thought the reaction would be to Bristol Palin's pregnancy. And since I was kinda out of contact, you can file me under last to know! I think the Democrat Elite better be real careful. Most voters are ordinary Americans like you and me and live in fly over country. They have families just like Sarah Palin. They get it and understand. They are much more likely to have an unwed pregnant daughter than a house partially financed by a Chicago racketeer.

266 phoenixgirl  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:42:05am

re: #187 Fat Jolly Penguin

This place is chaos. It always has been. People post do shit, think better of it, sometimes retract it, sometimes don't. It's a lunatic asylum where, every so often, something useful and good floats to the top of a sea of nonsense.

sounds like my home

267 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:42:06am

WOW!

Snip:

This episode enrages the conscience of decent men and women. In a more robust time and place, the father of Baby Trig would have waited on Mr. Kos with a horsewhip, to teach him that the public humiliation of innocent young women is not tolerated by decent men.

HAHAHAHAHAAA!

268 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:42:15am

re: #239 Pyrocles

Of course, the GOP convention was shortened because of the hurricane...maybe I'm seeing bias where it doesn't exist? Phhht, it's NPR.

If the top six headlines were all Gustav and Hanna...


But they've had "top" stories like "Smoking hurts women worse than men", "Drug names that sound alike can cause problems," and "Older fathers linked to bipolarism."

269 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:42:40am

re: #252 Perplexed

I would be surprised if Palin would even mention one word about this.

Why not? She doesn't seem to be one to shrink from uncomfortable situations.

270 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:42:46am

re: #253 jcm

There's a scooter "gang" that hangs around the UW in Seattle, this mob on scooters in goth dress. They try to pull off a "tough" attitude.... it doesn't work.

Photographic evidence required.
please, please, please.

:)

271 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:43:17am

re: #254 DaddyG

Ask them to help you create your own. They will invariably link you as a friend. My daughters did and I have lots of fun with them. The response from their less circumspect friends is priceless when they realize I'm part of their friends group!

We did just discuss that yesterday actually. Thanks, it's a good idea.

272 JimmyTheClaw  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:43:43am

orielly just ripped the daily kos they are so hateful they are now irrelevant no politician will go near their poison

273 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:43:55am

re: #264 Beach Lover


she replied..."Do you know the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull?
lipstick!"

That's it, I am shutting it down and voting for her forever.... might even move to Alaska if she loses here.

274 irish rose  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:44:23am

Wow, Rush is really giving em hell today.
Drop whatever you're doing and go listen.

275 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:45:04am

He is seriously pissed off!

276 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:45:22am

re: #269 MandyManners

Why not? She doesn't seem to be one to shrink from uncomfortable situations.

And anyway, what's so uncomfortable about LIFE?

277 irish rose  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:45:31am

re: #264 Beach Lover

Best quote from Rush so far...McCain campaign told Sarah they would be coming at her from all directions and said "are you ready for this?"

she replied..."Do you know the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull?
lipstick!"

love her!


Way to go, Sarah!
Give 'em hell.

278 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:45:33am

re: #274 irish rose

Wow, Rush is really giving em hell today.
Drop whatever you're doing and go listen.

Doing so, and lovin' it. :-)

279 maddogg  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:45:43am

There is an obvious difference between McCain and Obama. McCain chose Palin in spite of her family issues, Obama chose Biden because he is a coward.

280 godfrey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:45:55am

re: #24 Beach Lover

lol

Good piece by David Kahane, there. This paragraph is a beaut:

Because we need to take back our country. We need to take it back from fascists like George Washington and Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, and give it back to its rightful proprietors, patriots like Henry Wallace, Sidney Hillman, Norman Thomas, Gus Hall, Karl Marx, Leon Trotsky, Joseph Stalin, Saul Alinsky, William Kunstler, Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, David Dellinger, Tom Hayden, Bobby Seale, and, yes, my guy, the Talking Parrot, you know who.

Encore!

281 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:46:04am
282 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:46:06am

re: #265 Nevergiveup

Obama gave his marching orders (use it and get fired) to his staff too late for my tastes, but he HAS to realize that both his little daughters are potentially liable to this EXACT situation.

ANYTHING he says will be stored for future use; as a young man in political years, he should heed that well.

283 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:46:08am
284 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:46:28am

Of course, Obama is also comparing his experience to Palin's because he sure as hell can't talk experience in comparison to McCain.

285 godfrey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:46:46am

re: #248 buzzsawmonkey

Nailed it, buzz. Right between the eyes.

Like a caribou.

286 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:47:01am

re: #248 buzzsawmonkey

Palin is the "log cabin" candidate

By bringing up "log cabin" you're trying to subliminally make us think of maple syrup which in turn makes us think Aunt Jemima (hello? racial stereotypes?), WHICH, in turn, is supposed to frighten us about the size of Obama's pee-pee and what he might plan to do with it vis a vis blonde white women. You're utterly transparent, Mr. Right-Wing Hatemonger.

/Bob HebertThink

287 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:47:23am

re: #272 JimmyTheClaw

orielly just ripped the daily kos they are so hateful they are now irrelevant no politician will go near their poison

Does that mean kos won't be holding the presidential debates?

ptfoo. If I were McCain, I'd do a pre-emptive strike and publicly announce I refuse to attend any debates hosted by them, pointing out that Fox News would be acceptable, though, this time.

288 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:47:44am

re: #274 irish rose

Wow, Rush is really giving em hell today.
Drop whatever you're doing and go listen.

I'm convinced. For the first time in memory, I've turned my radio to Rush.

289 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:48:23am

I have also wondered how Todd Palin has taken all this. He is a former oil field operators, currently a fisherman, and for sport races snowmobiles. Markos just better not be in the same room as him....ever!

290 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:48:37am

re: #276 Nevergiveup

And anyway, what's so uncomfortable about LIFE?

I hope Bristol Palin is somehow shielded from this shit. This kind of stress is NOT good for a pregnancy.

291 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:48:43am

A big gold star to the first poster who knows who was the "Log Cabin and Hard Cider" candidate, without searching....

292 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:48:56am

re: #270 jwb7605

Photographic evidence required.
please, please, please.

:)

Looks like they have a web site....
Mosquito Fleet, not sure if it's the same bunch.....

293 godfrey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:48:57am

re: #272 JimmyTheClaw

Yep, and that's another good reason why Charles has been assiduous in keeping his own house clean.

Kos is poison, and there's no undoing it.

294 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:49:03am

re: #286 Occasional Reader

By bringing up "log cabin" you're trying to subliminally make us think of maple syrup which in turn makes us think Aunt Jemima (hello? racial stereotypes?), WHICH, in turn, is supposed to frighten us about the size of Obama's pee-pee and what he might plan to do with it vis a vis blonde white women. You're utterly transparent, Mr. Right-Wing Hatemonger.

/Bob HebertThink

But log- cabin Republicans has another connotation.

295 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:49:15am

Covering Diddy.

296 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:49:17am

re: #289 big steve

Markos just better not be in the same room as him....ever!

He would offer him a Mentos, and everything would be swell.

297 HDrepub  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:49:25am

re: #70 lawhawk


I guess he doesn't mind his site used as a cesspool, or should I say septic system, although it looks like the crap's truly backing up for the world to see.

No you got it right the first time, cesspool is a better description.

298 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:49:38am

re: #267 Typicalwhitey

WOW!

Snip:

HAHAHAHAHAAA!

I would pay to say that.

299 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:49:48am

Oh Noooo, now Rush is playing the P Diddy tape!
LOL

300 Dahveed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:49:57am

Laura Ingraham said it best on Fox News last night. She said that feminists have been lying all this time. They said they wanted women to progress in our society. The fact is all they wanted was liberal women to progress.

301 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:05am

re: #291 Silhouette

A big gold star to the first poster who knows who was the "Log Cabin and Hard Cider" candidate, without searching....

Semi-wild guess ... Andy Jackson?

302 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:16am

re: #286 Occasional Reader


/Bob HebertThink

"Hebert" being the sophisticated, nuanced spelling of "Herbert", as you're all doubtless aware.

303 godfrey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:18am

re: #286 Occasional Reader

OR, that's pretty weirdly impressive. :-)

304 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:18am

re: #283 buzzsawmonkey

Me, I'm just a guy with a laptop, and something that passes for a brain.

Well, reading your posts gives me a mental tingle.

305 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:31am

Rush, reads LGF....
He's playing the P. Diddy clip Charles put up last night.

306 kansas  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:33am

I hope this lady can get mad in her speech. You know we've all been waiting for someone to unleash on these despicable turds.

307 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:40am

re: #289 big steve

I have also wondered how Todd Palin has taken all this. He is a former oil field operators, currently a fisherman, and for sport races snowmobiles. Markos just better not be in the same room as him....ever!


further there was a famous case in Houston a decade or so ago where a father beat the crap out of some 20 year old who spread rumors about his 16 year old daughter. The beating was witnessed by over 30 people in a park. Richard Racehorse Haynes defended him. The jury returned in under an hour with a not guilty.

308 CanadianBacon  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:51am

re: #216 Kenneth

What's not to like? Poor firearm handling: her finger is on the trigger and she hasn't confirmed her target.

Other than that, I'm good with it. Heck, I'm great with it. The red, white, and blue look terrific on some folks.

309 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:50:55am

Remembering why I hate the radio. The ads are insultingly stupid. "THis is a public announcement. Listeners whose last names end in A through N may call today..." I would hate to be in a business where you have to feel contempt for your customers.

310 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:51:00am

re: #286 Occasional Reader

By bringing up "log cabin" you're trying to subliminally make us think of maple syrup which in turn makes us think Aunt Jemima (hello? racial stereotypes?), WHICH, in turn, is supposed to frighten us about the size of Obama's pee-pee and what he might plan to do with it vis a vis blonde white women. You're utterly transparent, Mr. Right-Wing Hatemonger.

/Bob HebertThink

ROFLMAO!

311 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:51:14am

re: #295 MandyManners

Covering Diddy.

Good. And please KEEP it covered. This is a family blog, thank you very much.

312 kansas  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:51:16am

re: #274 irish rose

Wow, Rush is really giving em hell today.
Drop whatever you're doing and go listen.

Had to turn off P Diddy though. Made me want to commit suicide.

313 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:51:42am

re: #307 big steve

further there was a famous case in Houston a decade or so ago where a father beat the crap out of some 20 year old who spread rumors about his 16 year old daughter. The beating was witnessed by over 30 people in a park. Richard Racehorse Haynes defended him. The jury returned in under an hour with a not guilty.

Yeah but that could only happan in Texas and maybe...well... Alaska!

314 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:51:51am

re: #292 jcm

Looks like they have a web site....
Mosquito Fleet, not sure if it's the same bunch.....

Moped Army Branch
37 Members
3 Scouts
3 Honorary

/backing off with deeply respectful tone ...

315 HDrepub  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:51:55am

re: #291 Silhouette

A big gold star to the first poster who knows who was the "Log Cabin and Hard Cider" candidate, without searching....

William Henry Harrison, was my first thought, but I cheated and checked up on myself. Hey I'm past 60, the memory is not so good these days.

316 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:51:58am

re: #308 CanadianBacon

What's not to like? Poor firearm handling: her finger is on the trigger and she hasn't confirmed her target.

Other than that, I'm good with it. Heck, I'm great with it. The red, white, and blue look terrific on some folks.

Thank you, I almost posted that. Please, pols, no DiFi gun-handling, even in private.

I like you as live pols, not as dead martyrs to the gun-control cause.

317 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:52:33am

P Diddy do something?

318 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:52:42am

re: #286 Occasional Reader

By bringing up "log cabin" you're trying to subliminally make us think of maple syrup which in turn makes us think Aunt Jemima (hello? racial stereotypes?), WHICH, in turn, is supposed to frighten us about the size of Obama's pee-pee and what he might plan to do with it vis a vis blonde white women. You're utterly transparent, Mr. Right-Wing Hatemonger.

/Bob HebertThink

/Log!

319 Perplexed  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:52:50am

re: #269 MandyManners

Why not? She doesn't seem to be one to shrink from uncomfortable situations.

Hmmm, mostly due to the real insignificance her daughter's pregnancy has to the presidency.

320 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:52:57am

Why is he defending BUCHANAN?

321 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:53:19am

re: #317 Peacekeeper

P Diddy do something?

Yes, he demonstrated a South Park-ian ability to evacuate his bowels via his mouth.

322 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:53:19am

re: #260 Noam Chumpski

You know that's really positive and clever parenting. Instead of being invasive and overbearing, you're now in the loop. Good thinking.


Thanks, I'd love to take credit, but it was my two high school age daughters that suggested I create one. I think the "no freaking out" rule MommyG and I have followed is paying off.

The other night we drove home a friend who showed up to a church dance after drinking. The friend was freaked that my daughter called us - but we drove her home without commenting on the incident. Halfway through the ride the friend asked why I didn't scold her. I replied "would it help?"

She relaxed quite a bit after that and admitted to me that what she did was pretty dumb. I said I know, but I'd rather drive home a girl who made a dumb mistake than attend the funeral of a "perfect" girl.

I suspect the future VP of our country has had some very similar conversations with her daughter. In fact I am willing to bet that the bulk of the electorate know exactly the type of worry mixed with pride the Palins are dealing with and have a great empathy towards them.

323 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:53:19am

re: #295 MandyManners

Covering Diddy.

Not covering (your) Diddy will get you arrested in the majority of the 57 states.

324 irish rose  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:53:24am

re: #288 MandyManners

I'm convinced. For the first time in memory, I've turned my radio to Rush.

I never listen to Rush other.
I now find myself asking "why?"

325 big steve  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:53:49am

re: #314 jwb7605

Moped Army Branch
37 Members
3 Scouts
3 Honorary

/backing off with deeply respectful tone ...

here Markos....here Markos.......come on down to Texas....I'll throw you a party.....you'll love it......great guest list.

326 kynna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:53:54am

Oops. Rush is unaware that Buchanan is a nazi sympathizer.

Now he's playing some Buchanan clips. Ugh. I hate PB.

Rush ... back away from the Buchanan.

Whew! He did.

327 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:53:57am

What did he do?

328 Iron Fist  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:54:32am

Barack Obama still hasn't explained when and how he got clean of Cocaine. Was it a 12 step program, NA, or what? How's it working for you, Barry?

329 BackwardsBoy  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:54:36am

re: #205 big steve
Big Steve, I haven't found one yet, but if Michelle said it, she's usually right.

330 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:54:38am

re: #317 Peacekeeper

P Diddy do something?

Thread!

331 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:54:42am

re: #308 CanadianBacon

What's not to like? Poor firearm handling: her finger is on the trigger

Are you sure? Doesn't look like it to me.

332 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:54:51am

re: #319 Perplexed

Hmmm, mostly due to the real insignificance her daughter's pregnancy has to the presidency.

Part of me thinks she should just refer to the challenges of parenting as a way to show she understands the lives of the rest of us. Part of me thinks she should take a bitch-slap at the rumor-mongers.

333 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:55:02am

re: #317 Peacekeeper

P Diddy do something?

/he talked to Doritos, damn it!

334 jim in virginia  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:55:11am

A quick lunchtime post and run from Ben Smith at Politico:

Obama : Back off stories (on Palin’s family/ pregnancy).

People's families are off limits.. people's children are especially off-limits …Our people were not involved in any way in this, and they will not be. And if I thought there was somebody in my campaign who was involved in something like that, they would be fired.

Yeah. Sure.

335 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:55:25am

re: #328 Iron Fist

Barack Obama still hasn't explained when and how he got clean of Cocaine. Was it a 12 step program, NA, or what? How's it working for you, Barry?

Michelle, hooked a finger in a nostril and said, "if you ever do that again......."

336 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:55:25am

re: #320 MandyManners

Why is he defending BUCHANAN?

Nooooooooooooooo!

337 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:55:44am

re: #322 DaddyG

Good work, DaddyG.

We had one of those "no question"* contracts with the oldest back when she started driving. I never got put into the position of using it, so I admire your ability to stick to the plan.

*You call me for a ride home, I will come and get you. No questions.

338 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:56:01am

re: #301 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Semi-wild guess ... Andy Jackson?

Close. Right time frame.

But it was the 9th, not the 7th president.

339 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:56:04am

re: #101 MandyManners

Why is no one ripping into Colmes?

Unless Colmes is part owner of the show, Fox needs to seriously consider replacing him with a liberal who can make a coherent argument and keep their mouth shut when the guests are talking. Such people do exist, Kirstin Powers for example. She does a credible job when she guest hosts for Colmes.

340 irish rose  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:56:26am

re: #324 irish rose

I never listen to Rush other. either.

PIMF

341 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:56:45am

re: #331 Occasional Reader

Are you sure? Doesn't look like it to me.

We're going to have to edit the photo so that only her finger is showing, aren't we?

/

342 rexatosis  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:56:50am

This is just the tip of the iceberg. This is going to be one ugly campaign.

343 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:56:51am

re: #330 jcm

Ah. Something telss me not to play that audio at work.

344 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:56:56am

re: #291 Silhouette

A big gold star to the first poster who knows who was the "Log Cabin and Hard Cider" candidate, without searching....

Harrison?

345 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:57:12am

re: #339 Son of the Black Dog

Unless Colmes is part owner of the show, Fox needs to seriously consider replacing him with a liberal who can make a coherent argument and keep their mouth shut when the guests are talking. Such people do exist, Kirstin Powers for example. She does a credible job when she guest hosts for Colmes.

Is there such a creature?

346 godfrey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:57:59am

That P Diddy video is hysterical. All that money, and sh*t for brains.

"Ah'm about to git focused."

Please, because the signal to noise ratio in your video is like 1:50.

347 Dianna  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:58:09am

re: #331 Occasional Reader

She looked to me like her finger was laid along the side, outside the trigger guard.

348 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:58:55am

After Senator Lieberman speaks tonight, it will be interesting to see who is hated more by the Democrats: The Senator or President Bush?

349 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:59:08am

re: #344 lifeofthemind

William Henry. Yes! He died in 30 days.

350 CanadianBacon  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 9:59:59am

re: #331 Occasional Reader

Is her finger on the trigger? Well, OR, it was the first thing I noticed.

Well, maybe second, or third. BUT I NOTICED.

Eventually.

351 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:00:07am

Oh, and Diddy's a multimillionaire.

/pick your social placecards, they matter in the long run

352 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:00:14am
353 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:00:33am

re: #339 Son of the Black Dog

Unless Colmes is part owner of the show, Fox needs to seriously consider replacing him with a liberal who can make a coherent argument and keep their mouth shut when the guests are talking. Such people do exist, Kirstin Powers for example. She does a credible job when she guest hosts for Colmes.


I think Ron Kuby would be good.

354 rednaxela  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:00:36am

Hi guys,

Haven't been posting here for a while but I did want to say that I am very happy about the Palin pick because it means that the old, feisty McCain is back.

As for Kos and all that scum, let them continue with the smears, this will backfire big time. Let them be nasty, let them be sexist and let Biden underestimate Palin. Can't wait til Oct 2.

355 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:01:01am

re: #347 Dianna

She looked to me like her finger was laid along the side, outside the trigger guard.

Look at her knuckle, and then directly below the finger and you can see the tip of the trigger. No fingernail in the picture, unless she has a really stubby finger.

356 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:01:23am

re: #349 Silhouette

William Henry. Yes! He died in 30 days.

But he was well preserved by all that hard cider.

357 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:01:28am

re: #354 rednaxela

Hi guys,

Haven't been posting here for a while but I did want to say that I am very happy about the Palin pick because it means that the old, feisty McCain is back.

As for Kos and all that scum, let them continue with the smears, this will backfire big time. Let them be nasty, let them be sexist and let Biden underestimate Palin. Can't wait til Oct 2.

Do you mean Nov. 4th?

358 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:01:30am

Really, guys, I don't find a pic of Palin in a bkini all that distracting.

I mean, by Presidential/Vice-Presidential standards, she's a hottie, sure. But we're not talking Adriana Lima here.

359 CanadianBacon  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:01:31am

re: #341 OldLineTexan


If we edit the picture so that only her finger is showing, I may be able to concentrate, Texan.

She's not a shy one, I'd say.

360 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:02:24am

re: #216 Kenneth

It's funny reading the comments at the left/liberal fever swamps. The things that get them hating Sarah Palin, are the same things I love about her.

Including this picture of the next Vice-President of the United States.

What's not to like?


The German tabloids tried that shit (racy pics of Merkel) and caught hell for it.

BBL

361 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:02:36am

re: #352 taxfreekiller

rain out of north, then rain out of east, then sun then rain out of north
then raind out of east, Gust-off is drunk now

Well, he did take a quick pass through N'awlens.

362 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:02:36am
363 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:02:49am

re: #343 Peacekeeper

Ah. Something telss me not to play that audio at work.

Rush played a bit. Transcription:

BEEP Alaska BEEP yo BEEP BEEP Alaska BEEP girl BEEP BEEP BEEP....

You get the idea.

364 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:02:51am

Rush did compliment Ray Nagin.

365 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:03:00am

re: #358 Occasional Reader

Really, guys, I don't find a pic of Palin in a bkini all that distracting.

I mean, by Presidential/Vice-Presidential standards, she's a hottie, sure. But we're not talking Adriana Lima here.

Yes, and we are always talking Adriana Lima, thanks to you. Muy Buena !

366 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:03:04am

re: #357 Nevergiveup

Do you mean Nov. 4th?

October 2 is the Vice Presidential candidate debate.

367 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:03:24am

re: #349 Silhouette

William Henry. Yes! He died in 30 days.

That's why one should keep an inauguration speech short and sweet.

368 rednaxela  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:03:36am

Also hope the McCain campaign pulls out of the Oct 7 debate so long as that self-important asshole Brokaw is in charge.

369 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:03:42am

re: #363 jcm
I git the idea yo beep beep!

370 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:03:49am

re: #362 buzzsawmonkey

You're forgetting that it's 35 below when she's wearing the bikini.

Now that's hot.

And I'm wondering how many outdoor pools there are in Alaska?!

371 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:03:52am

re: #358 Occasional Reader

Really, guys, I don't find a pic of Palin in a bkini all that distracting.

I mean, by Presidential/Vice-Presidential standards, she's a hottie, sure. But we're not talking Adriana Lima here.

Would you rather see Dick Cheney in a bikini? Of all the Vice-Presidential bikini pictures, that one is easily at the top of my personal favorites list.

Besides, Adriana can't run for VP.

372 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:04:15am

I think the guy in the background smoking and drinking beer from a can will make the LLL heads explode more.

373 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:04:28am

re: #364 lifeofthemind

Rush did compliment Ray Nagin.

Well, to be fair to Nagin, he did have a competent governor in Baton Rouge this time.

374 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:04:56am

re: #364 lifeofthemind

Rush did compliment Ray Nagin.

I would, too, if only Ray had managed to do the job and make the TV appearances without the Katrina-related bashing. I turned the TV off.

375 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:05:31am

I am looking forward to the VP debate : if Biden suggests she is unqualified she can come right back with: " Of course you think I'm unqualified. You guys thought Hillary wasn't even worth vetting."

376 rednaxela  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:05:36am

re: #364 lifeofthemind

Yeah, I didn't get that. Nagin really went over the top with his weather forecasting verbosity. And got it badly wrong too.

377 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:05:39am

re: #372 Silhouette

I think the guy in the background smoking and drinking beer from a can will make the LLL heads explode more.

Heh, also not a good idea in a gun picture. The drinking, I mean.

378 Nevergiveup  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:05:45am

re: #366 jwb7605

October 2 is the Vice Presidential candidate debate.

Yeah as soon as I was posting that I realized what you meant.

379 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:05:46am

re: #365 Peacekeeper

Yes, and we are always talking Adriana Lima, thanks to you. Muy Buena !

That's muita boa, you... you... merci-beaucouping troglodyte.

380 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:05:57am
381 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:05:58am

re: #358 Occasional Reader

Really, guys, I don't find a pic of Palin in a bkini all that distracting.

I mean, by Presidential/Vice-Presidential standards, she's a hottie, sure. But we're not talking Adriana Lima here.

Lima's a tough standard to meet.

382 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:06:00am

re: #370 Occasional Reader

And I'm wondering how many outdoor pools there are in Alaska?!

In the winter time, one.
In any given part of the state.
Always within 50 yards of Sarah Palin.

383 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:06:02am

re: #371 Kenneth

Would you rather see Dick Cheney in a bikini?

Maybe I would. Haven't you seen that famous photo of him?

384 Dustyvet  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:06:24am

re: #42 iceman1960

Must be a lot of holes over there at the Kos

Sure are, but then we all know that rats live in holes...

385 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:06:34am

re: #365 Peacekeeper

Yes, and we are always talking Adriana Lima, thanks to you. Muy Buena !

IMHO at the same age Pallin had a more attractive face. Lima has a terrific figure but I doubt she will look as good in 20 years. As long as I am fantasizing might as well fantasize a long term relationship.

386 Beach Lover  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:06:53am

from the article I posted at #24

Sure, if she were one of ours, not only would we have nominated her by acclamation, since she fulfills every trope of feminism except for her unfortunate and inexplicable opposition to murdering unborn children, we would also have made at least two TV movies about her life, celebrating her choice to have her fifth child and the announcement yesterday that her 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, is pregnant and is going to marry the teenage father of her child. That’s the kind of heartwarming, inclusive, empowering story we love — she’s like Juno come to life as Juneau, set in Mystery, Alaska.

But she’s not a Democrat, which despite her va-va-va-voom appearance, means she’s not really a woman, which is one of the reasons we’ve spent the past four days since McCain unveiled her trying to tear her limb from limb. Just because she’s the governor of a state sandwiched between two obscure and unimportant countries, Canada and Russia, and spent more time in her first five minutes visiting American troops in Iraq than Evita Barry did during his entire Rainbow Tour, what could she possibly know about foreign policy? It’s not like she’s John Edwards or something.

387 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:06:58am

re: #371 Kenneth

Would you rather see Dick Cheney in a bikini?

I don't have to answer your fascist questions!

388 Iron Fist  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:07:03am

re: #296 Silhouette

If Markos were smart, he'd kick his own ass, and then apologize. It'd hurt less, and the results would be the same.

389 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:07:18am

re: #383 Silhouette

Maybe I would. Haven't you seen that famous photo of him?

I know which one YOU'RE talking about.

Heh.

He has the big wallet, too.

/I know how it goes

390 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:07:29am

re: #379 Occasional Reader

That's muita boa, you... you... merci-beaucouping troglodyte.

I have shamed my fellow rednecks.

391 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:07:35am

re: #385 lifeofthemind

IMHO at the same age Pallin had a more attractive face. Lima has a terrific figure but I doubt she will look as good in 20 years. As long as I am fantasizing might as well fantasize a long term relationship.

Who is Adriana Lima?
Does she fish?

392 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:07:35am

re: #337 OldLineTexan

Good work, DaddyG.

We had one of those "no question"* contracts with the oldest back when she started driving. I never got put into the position of using it, so I admire your ability to stick to the plan.

*You call me for a ride home, I will come and get you. No questions.

Admitedly I was relieved it was my daughters friend that was drinking that night. I thought it was very cool of my daughter to care for her friend enough to make the call. She is only 17.

393 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:07:40am

re: #372 Silhouette

I think the guy in the background smoking and drinking beer from a can will make the LLL heads explode more.

I bet it's not even a premium micro-brewery ale! Oh, the humanity!

394 mean Gene  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:07:40am

It is obvious she is pregnant in that video.
All the photos are ''disappeared,'' but she has a good sized belly bump carrying it high (which is good) all through the video.
Poor little koz kidz.
Just like most young Chicoms, they probably have never even met a woman who has been a health nut and has also had four or five children.
That is exactly how they look.....radiant, healthy, happy, energetic.
No extra fat just because ''she's eating for two,"

395 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:08:02am

re: #380 buzzsawmonkey

Who needs an outdoor pool when you can be baring it all in the Bering Sea? When you can sidestroke with the sea lions?

We hear a lot about the Bering Straits. But what about the Bering Gays? Why is their narrative being marginalized?

396 maddogg  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:08:05am

re: #248 buzzsawmonkey

"There are a lot more people, probably--black or white--who identify with the "log cabin" narrative. That is what scares the Obama campaign, and the media that support him, since both belong to the elite-anointment narrative. "

I am not sure you are correct in that. The country has become so urbanized in the past 30 years that people will seriously entertain the idea of putting a communist with virtually no experience in the White House. Half the people may not even be able to tell you who is running for POTUS. But they can tell you what the latest escapade of some sleazy pop tart is. What you say is true for the majority of conservatives I believe, and certainly myself, But for most Americans, I doubt it. They seem to be looking for the Government to be their parents, and do not make me think of "rugged individualists:. How many people read Hemingway anymore? They do watch a moron like P-diddy though, and don't even think him the fool he is.

397 quickjustice  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:08:06am

So today, the N.Y. Times prints three front-page stories about Sarah Palin's personal life, and that of her daughter.

This despite Obama's tepid prior statement that such "personal" issues ought to be out of bounds? Hmmm.

Sounds like it's time to get personal with Obama, his wife, his children, Biden, his wife, his children, Gore, his wife, his kids, and of course, Clinton, his wife, and his child. The Democrats want to engage in the politics of personal destruction? Time to get started!

And as for the editors and managers of the N.Y. Times, how many of them have cheated on their wives? (Plenty). What percentage of the staff reporters are gay? (It's very high.) And what about their use of eminent domain to seize the privately-owned land upon which their current headquarters is located? The N.Y. Times supported New London, Connecticut in seizing grandma's house for the benefit of privater developers.

398 godfrey  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:08:41am

Diddy lyrics

People buy that stuff. I'm buggin', y'all.

399 rednaxela  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:08:58am

re: #357 Nevergiveup

No, Oct 2, VP debate when Biden will get his ass handed to him in tiny fragments.

400 Racer X  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:09:02am

re: #391 jwb7605

Who is Adriana Lima?
Does she fish?

And own a boat?

401 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:09:11am

re: #379 Occasional Reader

What about Bonita?

402 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:09:11am
403 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:09:15am

re: #395 Occasional Reader

We hear a lot about the Bering Straits. But what about the Bering Gays? Why is their narrative being marginalized?

Excellent points.
Get the MSM on that.
/

404 jester6  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:09:20am

I had an epiphany last night. Maybe you folks already knew it. But I will throw it out here anyway. This distinction between Left and Right is knew to me.

Folks on the Right talk about right and wrong. They believe there is an ideal model of behavior we should all strive towards. But hardly anyone ever achieves that model. And those few who do become saints.

The folks on the Left see this as hypocrisy. They also have bought into their own propeganda that people on the Right are intolerant and judgmental. The left thinks if they drag all this stuff out the Religious Right will abandon Palin.


So when they see the comments of someone like Dobson is all they can do is scream hypocrisy. But all the Right leaning church going folk I know are completely unaffected by this story. And the more they attack Palin the more fired up they become.

And the folks in the middle. The ones who do not pay attention to politics until we get close to the election have to scratching their heads on this one.

The bottom line, when Palin addresses this at the convention, she simply needs to say something like

"My family, like many of yours, is not perfect. We do not always achieve the ideals we strive for. But when we fall short we don't look to Washington or the State Capitol or City Hall for help. We don't seek out our "community organizer". When we fall short we look first to ourselves, then to our family for support. And although some call this hypocrsy or something to be ashamed of, I consider this something to be proud of. This is what I call family values."

Let the Lefties keep throwing the mud. She can hit a homerun on this issue if she stays classy. We don't need to throw the mud back.

405 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:10:11am

Alaska? Alaska? Alaska? Alask...?

406 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:10:45am

re: #390 Peacekeeper

I have shamed my fellow rednecks.

I blame YOU for the fact that all the Brazilians in the "Blame it on Lisa" (Simpsons go to Rio) episode had Spanish accents.

(Of course, that doesn't justify some people having no sense of humor)

407 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:11:08am

re: #21 Honorary Yooper

John Kass is a national treasure.

408 cblesz  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:11:27am

What is Rush saying?

409 kuffar  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:11:28am

re: #405 MandyManners

What do you expect?

410 DaddyG  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:11:31am

re: #371 Kenneth

Would you rather see Dick Cheney in a bikini? Of all the Vice-Presidential bikini pictures, that one is easily at the top of my personal favorites list.

Besides, Adriana can't run for VP.

Didja have too?!

/Pass the brain bleach

411 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:12:19am

re: #408 cblesz

What is Rush saying?

He's on the P. Diddy thread.

412 HDrepub  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:13:10am

re: #355 OldLineTexan

Look at her knuckle, and then directly below the finger and you can see the tip of the trigger. No fingernail in the picture, unless she has a really stubby finger.

Whatever, but it isn't going to do much damage if it goes off, it's pointed in the air and it's a .177 caliber pellet rifle.

413 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:13:22am

re: #216 Kenneth

Including this picture of the next Vice-President of the United States.

Great shot. Quality Americana bikini. Is the homer in the background drinking a Schlitz? Extra points for Palin!

414 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:13:33am
415 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:13:39am

re: #401 Peacekeeper

What about Bonita?

Works in either language. Remember: Portugese is essentially Spanish spoken while really, really drunk.

416 doppelganglander  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:13:47am

re: #254 DaddyG

Ask them to help you create your own. They will invariably link you as a friend. My daughters did and I have lots of fun with them. The response from their less circumspect friends is priceless when they realize I'm part of their friends group!

I am categorically banned from Facebook by my three kids. The oldest one lets me look over her shoulder sometimes, especially when it involves wedding pictures (a bunch of her friends graduated and got married this summer). Since I have absolutely no reason to expect any hanky-panky, I let them enjoy their privacy.

417 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:13:55am

re: #404 jester6
This business reminds me of the dbate where Edwards suavely complimented Cheney on his lesbian daughter.

418 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:15:21am

re: #389 OldLineTexan

I know which one YOU'RE talking about.

Well, it isn't the one with the space alien/naked woman reflected in his sunglasses!

419 lifeofthemind  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:15:26am

re: #397 quickjustice

And what about their use of eminent domain to seize the privately-owned land upon which their current headquarters is located? The N.Y. Times supported New London, Connecticut in seizing grandma's house for the benefit of privater developers.

The Times is deeply mobbed up in the plan to knock down viable chunks of Brooklyn for Forest City Ratner. Ratner built the new NYT headquarters.

420 jcm  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:15:27am

re: #417 Peacekeeper

This business reminds me of the dbate where Edwards suavely complimented Cheney on his lesbian daughter.

I don't think the burns from Cheney's stare have healed yet.

421 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:16:21am

re: #404 jester6

I had an epiphany last night. Maybe you folks already knew it. But I will throw it out here anyway. This distinction between Left and Right is knew to me.

Folks on the Right talk about right and wrong. They believe there is an ideal model of behavior we should all strive towards. But hardly anyone ever achieves that model. And those few who do become saints.

The folks on the Left see this as hypocrisy. They also have bought into their own propeganda that people on the Right are intolerant and judgmental. The left thinks if they drag all this stuff out the Religious Right will abandon Palin.


So when they see the comments of someone like Dobson is all they can do is scream hypocrisy. But all the Right leaning church going folk I know are completely unaffected by this story. And the more they attack Palin the more fired up they become.

And the folks in the middle. The ones who do not pay attention to politics until we get close to the election have to scratching their heads on this one.

The bottom line, when Palin addresses this at the convention, she simply needs to say something like

Let the Lefties keep throwing the mud. She can hit a homerun on this issue if she stays classy. We don't need to throw the mud back.

Why does joining/running the P.T.A. not count in the "community organization" category? When (apparently the citizens) encouraged her to run for Mayor, why wasn't that part of a "community organization" effort?

The epiphany I'm having is how I managed to ignore these and other obvious Elephant-In-The-Room issues.

If I were her, I'd be publicly musing about that sort of thing, as opposed to pointing out the mud.

422 quickjustice  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:16:35am

re: #419 lifeofthemind

Bingo!

423 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:16:57am

re: #406 Occasional Reader

From your link:
Rio has severe social problems and high levels of violence, although these are generally restricted to certain areas. Attacks on tourists are rare and no one has ever been attacked by a monkey on Copacabana.

emphasis mine.

424 Occasional Reader  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:17:00am

re: #420 jcm

I don't think the burns from Cheney's stare have healed yet.

I hear Edwards keeps getting hunting invitations from Cheney ever since.

425 armytramp  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:17:43am

Found at Michelle Malkin, the Sarah Palin Sexism Watch.

426 Kenneth  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:17:47am

re: #410 DaddyG

Hey, I thought it was funny, but apparently some women here like the idea.

Nice to think when Sarah is sworn in as VP (and she will be!), Dick can tour her round his office and show her where he keeps his ammo & favorite fishing flies.

I liked her before McCain nominated her, I was well impressed by her speech that day, & now after all this "baby" kerfuffle, I like her even more. She's got moral courage, strength of character and integrity.

427 jwb7605  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:18:22am

re: #410 DaddyG

Didja have too?!

/Pass the brain bleach

Again, we need low quality grainy photographic evidence.
Really grainy. Nothing bigger than 16x16, greyscale.

428 Peacekeeper  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:18:42am

re: #415 Occasional Reader

Well IF I ever come face to face with Adriana I'll have a word to sputter.

429 Silhouette  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:19:00am

re: #404 jester6

They also have bought into their own propeganda that people on the Right are intolerant and judgmental. The left thinks if they drag all this stuff out the Religious Right will abandon Palin.

So when they see the comments of someone like Dobson is all they can do is scream hypocrisy.

I think this is exactly right.

They are forever bringing up "dirt" on conservatives that, if true to their political viewpoints, they shouldn't consider dirt. Like Cheney's daughter.

But it isn't so much that they are closet disapprovers, it is that they are certain that the religious will abandon them. Exactly.

They, once again, have no concept of human nature or what our side even means when we're talking.

430 jester6  Tue, Sep 2, 2008 10:19:00am

re: #328 Iron Fist

Barack Obama still hasn't explained when and how he got clean of Cocaine. Was it a 12 step program, NA, or what? How's it working for you, Barry?

Not everyone who does cocaine gets addicted. In my younger days I knew a lot of people who would be an eight-ball, stay awake until the dope ran out in a day or two, slept for a day or two, then went back to work. If they ever repeated the process they did it in a year or two.

These people are now surgeons, lawyers and business owners. No 12 step, no addiction, no messed up life.

I am sure not as many people who smoke pot have done cocaine, but it really is an issue the Republicans do not want to touch. Let the left swim in the sewer this time. Their true colors are coming out.