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Community Organizers Victimized by Palin

Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:21:23 am PDT

Community organizers demand an apology from Sarah Palin.

Heh. Good luck with that.

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1 rawmuse  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:22:05am

This is going to hurt their "walking around money".

2 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:23:03am

It's almost like it was taken from "The Onion".

3 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:23:06am

Do the community organizers need a community organizer now?

Just askin'.

4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:23:21am

So how long before the money trail tracks back to either the Barry Campaign or Soros?

5 pianogirl  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:23:52am

Oh my...don't hold your breath waiting for that apology!

6 jorline  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:24:32am

waiting....waiting....waiting while Palin puts on her lipstick.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

7 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:24:44am

I think small town mayors need an apology from Obama.

8 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:25:00am
9 Cindermutha  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:25:07am

Why do they write in the same 5th grade style as the drive-by trolls?

10 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:25:22am
Organizers demand apology from Alaska governor, say “we’re working to clean up your mess!”

Oh please spare me...

11 kynna  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:25:23am

I demand that community organizers account for their time. I want to know what the tax dollars are going toward and how much success has been achieved.

Good job, guys. Turn the spotlight on yourselves. I've got some questions for you.

12 snowcrash  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:25:43am

Really big demographic we alienated. lol

13 cblesz  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:25:44am

re: #7 NoSubmission

I think small town mayors need an apology from Obama.


Brilliant, just brilliant

14 Gordon Marock  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:25:45am

In today's St. Pete Times (Tampa), an article that appears to be textbook Taqiyya discusses the University of South Florida's new "Serenity Room" at the student center. It turns out that the "Serenity Room" is really meant for all students, but it just happens to be pale green, in the shape of a "half moon" and is situated next to a special "shower room" that will assist Muslim students in performing wudu. The article must be read to be believed in its efforts to portray the room as something other than a muslim prayer room. Here is the link.


Muslim Prayer Room called "Serenity Room"

15 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:25:56am

Oh, darn, now Sarah's gone and lost us the ACORN vote.

//

16 Celtic Templar  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:26:25am

Yay for the Democrats! Another oppressed minority group has spawned! Community Organizer Marriage should be legal! A right I tell you...

17 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:26:38am

Bwahahahahahahahaha!

Charles - you need to do an Ajax thing to have a floating "don't read this next post while drinking" warning.

And nice grab bar on the bottom of the comment box. Anyway to save the user's size setting to a cookie?

18 Celtic Templar  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:26:44am

re: #16 Celtic Templar

Crap, I'm sorry

for #16 /sarc

19 erevu  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:27:36am

re: #4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So how long before the money trail tracks back to either the Barry Campaign or Soros?

I bet the detectives are on the case right now.

20 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:27:55am

From the comments:

Tina // September 4, 2008 at 4:43 pm

I was a bit surprised to hear the attack on community organizers simply because I am really impressed by Mr. Obama’s work history. This is a man who inspires me to serve my community and help others. It is strange to see this background twisted as anything other than admirable.

These are the people who think Palin is clueless....

21 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:27:58am

PHOTO: Gratuitous Palin on a Harley shot.

Just because.

22 Right Brain  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:28:17am

What are their responsibilities?

23 bulwrk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:28:28am

Gosh I hope they don't threaten to hold countless meetings were nothing gets done.

24 realwest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:28:35am

Gee, seems to me that mayors deserve an apology from community organizers - or at least Obama.

25 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:28:52am

re: #17 karmic_inquisitor

And nice grab bar on the bottom of the comment box. Anyway to save the user's size setting to a cookie?

That's what those dots are! Thank you.

26 HelloDare  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:29:01am

This from the comments to the article:

Kurt Busiek // September 4, 2008 at 4:39 pm

As someone else said on another blog…

Jesus Christ was a community organizer. Pontius Pilate was a governor.

Perhaps “good Christian” Sarah Palin should consider that.

27 mj  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:29:16am

This was actually being promoted yesterday on CNN by Roland Martin ( is that his name)? He said both his parents are 'community organizers" and Palin was going to hear from them across the country.

He was serious.


Which just goes to show you how un-serious CNN News has become.

28 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:29:38am

In a speech that devastating, there's bound to be some collateral damage somewhere. Suck it up, losers.

Couldn't post this last night because LGF kept dropping out on me. That speech was the political equivalent of walking into a bar and locking the door behind you, then kicking the crap out of everyone.

29 deadman  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:29:57am

I searched the web and am still not clear on what community organizer does. How is it different from the old Chicago style "ward heeler"? Other than the former specializing in disposing of federal money.

30 right_wing2  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:30:13am

Latest Gallup poll shows the Obamessiah up by 7. Rasmussen, including 'leaners' shows a 5 point lead by the Messiah. Let's send him back to Chicago!

31 kynna  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:30:14am

re: #23 bulwrk

Gosh I hope they don't threaten to hold countless meetings were nothing gets done.

Oh you just reminded me of that scene of community organizers in 'The Life of Brian'. LOL. They've been mocked by the masters and they're mad at Sarah?

32 Dahveed  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:30:18am

I do some hiring as part of my job. I must say that if I say a resume with "Community Organizer" in place of actual job experience, I would not even offer up an interview. I would assume they were unemployable.

33 Russkilitlover  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:30:26am

I demand an apology from Community Organizers.

34 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:30:32am

WTF is a "community organizer" anyway? Is that some fancy term for a huckster or hustler? Or is it just a gangbanger by another name?

35 Celtic Templar  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:30:40am

re: #28 Noam Sayin'

Chuck Norris, but in a skirt ... without a beard ... and ravishing

36 scottishbuzzsaw  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:30:40am

re: #26 HelloDare

Jesus Christ was a community organizer. Pontius Pilate was a governor.


Again with the Messiah reference!

37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:30:42am

re: #22 Right Brain

What are their responsibilities?

They dont have any, they only have causes and agendas. If they fail, they can always fall back on "Well, I tried."

38 lifeofthemind  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:30:48am

Soon to trot out:
The National Association of Serving Community ORganizers will rally and demand respect. Obama will attend a vegie barbecue and Vespa race to build solidarity with his fellow NASCOR Dads.

39 rawmuse  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:31:03am

re: #29 deadman

Community organizers register the dead to vote. I thought you knew that, from your nic. ;)

40 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:31:04am

Community organizers are an important part of life in America. So are mayors, who actually have a responsibility to their constituents. Community organizers can be present. Mayors have to act (or should I say should act since some fail to do so with lives are on the line).

Even now, Democrats cannot summon the courage to call Palin governor - disrespecting both her, her family, and most importantly, her constituents in Alaska. It's demeaning and disrespectful. They demean her service as mayor, and they think that a remark about Obama's community organizing days was grounds for victimization. Nice.

41 Arbalest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:31:19am

The community organizers will calm down once they get their props.

To whom are the styrofoam Greek Columns to be delivered?

42 Celtic Templar  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:31:37am

re: #36 scottishbuzzsaw

Again with the Messiah reference!

I'm sure Jesus Christ did not approve of partial birth or late term abortion ... FAIL

43 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:31:48am

community organizers are rabble rousing commies.
strong arm robbers, inciting violence, and often leaving communities more destitute than when the parasites came in.
why do these skels deserve an apology? what they do is reprehensible.
they need to be investigated by law enforcement, prosecuted and put away.

44 right_on_target  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:31:58am

What is a community organizer, REALLY?

45 Foldedspace  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:32:20am

It was Barry that made the comparison between community organizer and being mayor. Did they think that Sarah wasn't going to respond? Is that not fair in politics anymore?

The Left continues to somehow amaze me with their arrogance.

46 Dianna  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:32:23am

re: #26 HelloDare

Well, a procurator isn't precisely a governor, but that's the best remark they have.

47 right_wing2  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:32:24am

According to Wiki:
"Community organizing is a process by which people are brought together to act in common self-interest. While organizing describes any activity involving people interacting with one another in a formal manner, much community organizing is in the pursuit of a common agenda. Many groups seek populist goals and the ideal of participatory democracy. Community organizers create social movements by building a base of concerned people, mobilizing these community members to act, and developing leadership from and relationships among the people involved."

48 HelloDare  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:32:32am

Another comment.

obamatron // September 4, 2008 at 5:11 pm

I couldnt live without my desk organizer . It has helped me so much .

49 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:32:35am

re: #26 HelloDare

Jesus Christ was a community organizer. Pontius Pilate was a governor.

Sorry, Kurt. Obama ain't Jesus and Sarah ain't Pontius. No ice cream for you.

50 maddogg  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:33:17am

There are no community orgainzers in my community. What community needs an organizer? Sounds like a politically correct title for a Democratic hack.

“Community organizers work in neighborhoods that have been hit hardest by the failing economy,” said John Raskin, founder of Community Organizers of America and a community organizer on the West Side of Manhattan. “The last thing we need is for Republican officials to mock us on television when we’re trying to rebuild the neighborhoods they have destroyed.

I rest my case.

51 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:33:18am

re: #46 Dianna

Well, a procurator isn't precisely a governor, but that's the best remark they have.

Plus, Christ wasn't exactly a "community organizer". He was a religious figure, a rabbi, IIRC.

52 Pigtown Water Dog  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:33:18am

Is "community organizer" even a title in the Occupational Outlook Handbook?

I never had to live in a community that needed any more organization than who was going to bring what to the BBQ.

53 Kulhwch  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:33:19am
The community organizers launched a new web site,
http://organizersfightback.wordpress.com, to defend themselves against Republican attacks.

<crickets>

}:)     [What, there were no accounts available on Geocities?!]

54 jorline  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:33:24am

I posted this last night, but I can't remember who said it now.

They made the comment about wanting to see Biden and Romney debate.
They said it would be like a fight between the biggest loud mouth in the bar and the bar owner.

55 rawmuse  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:33:25am

I once lived in a part of town that had "community organizers". They would come in to your place of business and say things like "Nice place ya got here. It would just be a SHAME if something were to, you know, HAPPEN to it...".

56 CalipHater  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:33:52am

You mean McCain might lose the vote of communist agitators and race-baiters! What a blow to lhis base.

57 Iron Fist  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:33:58am

re: #26 HelloDare

Here I thought Jesus' job title was "Christ". Of course, the Leftwing nuts are trying to give that title to BHO.

58 Dianna  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:34:04am

re: #34 Honorary Yooper

It's the people from CALPIRG and similar organizations that show up on your doorstep during dinnertime and ask you to sign a petition or contribute money. Sometimes both.

59 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:34:27am

re: #44 right_on_target

What is a community organizer, REALLY?

Here's some info, from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

60 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:34:42am

re: #21 NoSubmission

PHOTO: Gratuitous Palin on a Harley shot.

Just because.

I wanna see her ride that.......in that skirt ;~)

61 RickZ  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:34:45am

re: #44 right_on_target

What is a community organizer, REALLY?

To paraphrase something I read: A community organizer is someone who rubs raw the wounds in a given community to channel that anger and pain into political power. See Al Sharpton.

62 Celtic Templar  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:34:46am

re: #50 maddogg

There are no community orgainzers in my community. What community needs an organizer? Sounds like a politically correct title for a Democratic hack.

I rest my case.

That's good - what in Republican Chicago? LOL or Republican Philadelphia? Or Republican Detroit? Do they even know what they're saying?

63 Pigtown Water Dog  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:34:48am

re: #55 rawmuse

You got an up-ding for making me laugh.

64 fishbob  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:34:59am

I can only imagine what a community organizer is.....which is......not much.

Aren't Sharpton and Jackson community organizers? In other words.....a created job to correct a created problem in hopes of creating a better community in our overall creation. Yes.....someone MUST do this for us or else we cannot know how to be happy.

The question is....exactly what is being organized in the community?

65 stanlef  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:35:10am

re: #9 Cindermutha

Because they ARE the drive by trolls.

66 realwest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:35:17am

re: #28 Noam Sayin'
HEY NOAM!

That speech was the political equivalent of walking into a bar and locking the door behind you, then kicking the crap out of everyone.

Boy, that there's the TRUTH.
Sarah took no prisoners, either.

67 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:35:25am

Wasn't Al Sharpton a community organizer?

68 TOWM  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:35:30am
69 itellu3times  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:35:40am

re: #32 Dahveed

I do some hiring as part of my job. I must say that if I say a resume with "Community Organizer" in place of actual job experience, I would not even offer up an interview. I would assume they were unemployable.

Depends, on who they were organizing, and what for, what else is on the resume, and what you're hiring for. In some places, jobs like that are considered like spending time in the peace corps, or missionary work, and like that. Idealistic, resume *enhancing*. I suspect that's how 0bambi saw it. Heck, it worked for him.

70 Skul  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:35:51am

Community organizer, or rabble rouser?
It seems the majority fall into the later.

71 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:35:55am

The United Steel Workers are not happy with Palin introducing her husband as a Union member...

USW Statement on John McCain's VP Choice - LINK : [Link: www.usw.org...]

72 kynna  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:36:11am

Here we go. Community organizers.

73 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:36:20am
“Community organizers work in neighborhoods that have been hit hardest by the failing economy,” said John Raskin, founder of Community Organizers of America and a community organizer on the West Side of Manhattan. “The last thing we need is for Republican officials to mock us on television when we’re trying to rebuild the neighborhoods they have destroyed.

Who destroyed? Again, who?

More like the Democrats destroyed, nitwit. It was, after all, LBJ's Great Society that ruined these neighborhoods by demanding that fathers not live with their children and the mothers of said children so those women and children could receive welfare payments. These fatherless kids then joined gangs and started the destruction of those neighborhoods. Now we have "babby daddies" instead of fathers thanks to these Democrats and community disorganizers.

74 Celtic Templar  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:36:22am

re: #69 itellu3times

Depends, on who they were organizing, and what for, what else is on the resume, and what you're hiring for. In some places, jobs like that are considered like spending time in the peace corps, or missionary work, and like that. Idealistic, resume *enhancing*. I suspect that's how 0bambi saw it. Heck, it worked for him.

I agree, it makes me think ex-convict with ties to very bad people.

75 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:36:48am

re: #29 deadman

I searched the web and am still not clear on what community organizer does. How is it different from the old Chicago style "ward heeler"? Other than the former specializing in disposing of federal money.

Seems to be all about getting "government" to fix problems.

It probably wouldn't occur to a community organizer to enlist the private sector.

76 Miss Molly  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:37:06am

Community organizers are agitators looking for a large check written out to them.

And, it was "The Obama" who looked down with distain on Sarah's job as a mayor of a small town.

77 AnotherRightWingConspirator  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:37:12am

I still can't figure out if that is a real website or if it is satire. I really can't.

78 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:37:15am

I've organized a few block parties in my day, does that make me a "community organizer"?

79 HelloDare  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:37:32am

With all these community organizers in a tizzy, I'm worried about our communities falling into a state of disorganization.

80 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:37:38am

re: #64 fishbob

I can only imagine what a community organizer is.....which is......not much.

Aren't Sharpton and Jackson community organizers? In other words.....a created job to correct a created problem in hopes of creating a better community in our overall creation. Yes.....someone MUST do this for us or else we cannot know how to be happy.

The question is....exactly what is being organized in the community?

Well, in Kragaristan, communities are organized for 3 reasons;
1) Crushing the enemy
2) Seeing them driven before you
3) Hearing the lamentation of the women

81 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:37:44am

re: #14 Gordon Marock

In today's St. Pete Times (Tampa), an article that appears to be textbook Taqiyya discusses the University of South Florida's new "Serenity Room" at the student center. It turns out that the "Serenity Room" is really meant for all students, but it just happens to be pale green, in the shape of a "half moon" and is situated next to a special "shower room" that will assist Muslim students in performing wudu. The article must be read to be believed in its efforts to portray the room as something other than a muslim prayer room. Here is the link.


Muslim Prayer Room called "Serenity Room"

The big test will be what happens if several Jews want to use it as a prayer room.
I have my guesses.

82 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:37:48am

re: #47 right_wing2

According to Wiki:
"Community organizing is a process by which people are brought together to act in common self-interest. While organizing describes any activity involving people interacting with one another in a formal manner, much community organizing is in the pursuit of a common agenda. Many groups seek populist goals and the ideal of participatory democracy. Community organizers create social movements by building a base of concerned people, mobilizing these community members to act, and developing leadership from and relationships among the people involved."

OHHHHH! Sounds involved!
/

83 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:37:56am

re: #71 Ringo the Gringo

The United Steel Workers are not happy with Palin introducing her husband as a Union member...

USW Statement on John McCain's VP Choice - LINK : [Link: www.usw.org...]

Piss on the socialistic union bosses. The rank and file can see the writing on the wall.

84 Celtic Templar  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:38:00am

re: #80 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Crom!

85 Devil's Advocate  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:38:51am
86 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:38:53am

re: #78 Ringo the Gringo

I've organized a few block parties in my day, does that make me a "community organizer"?

Only if you got taxpayer's money to do the job.

87 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:39:05am

Note to community organizers; She was referring to THIS.

88 right_wing2  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:39:06am

re: #14 Gordon Marock

Sounds like a good place to relax with a good book and a BLT.

89 TN_Vol  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:39:12am

Community Organizers have their place....far away from here.

90 Alaska Kim  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:39:19am

Oh Geeze. Get a life.

91 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:39:20am

re: #80 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, in Kragaristan, communities are organized for 3 reasons;
1) Crushing the enemy
2) Seeing them driven before you
3) Hearing the lamentation of the women

4) Being there to console them... heh heh

92 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:39:44am

re: #50 maddogg

There are no community orgainzers in my community. What community needs an organizer? Sounds like a politically correct title for a Democratic hack.

The last thing we need is for Republican officials to mock us on television when we’re trying to rebuild the neighborhoods they have destroyed.


I rest my case.


So who do they get to rebuild the neighborhood that Obama and his friends destroyed?

93 lifeofthemind  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:39:44am

Community organizers are people who show up at a fire and either pour gasoline on it or start moving the ladder while the real professional responders are standing on it. They are paid interns for political machines or act as uneducated and unlicensed ministers without any of the messy impediments of religion or responsibility.

94 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:39:54am

re: #84 Celtic Templar

Crom!

Kragaristan believes in the firm separation of Church and State, though we do recognize our strong Crom background.

95 Spenser (with an S)  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:40:14am

Unless you work for ACORN, I don't think community organizers are evil, it's just not any kind of prep for a U.S. President! I'm sure most do some good work with non-profit groups, soup kitchens, tutoring programs, etc... Some might even be conservative, like the lady at my church who might fall under that title. But, it's not a preparation for president. Especially when you worked for ACORN. Least prepared candidate in 100 years or more.

96 Pigtown Water Dog  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:40:14am

I just looked "community organizer" up in the OOH-Occupational Outlook Handbook: Result: ZERO results for occupations with that title.

Not recognized by the Bureau of Labor.

97 GorgonBEgone  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:40:23am

Was that oblama minister guy who said G'Damn America
a community whatzit?


They need to re-organize themselves.

Can't we all get along? LOL

98 redstateredneck  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:40:49am

re: #87 FrogMarch

Note to community organizers; She was referring to THIS.

Looks like the set for "Good Times".

99 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:40:54am

re: #48 HelloDare

Another comment.

That one was hilarious. And it's still there.

100 pat  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:41:04am

From article

Though many people are unfamiliar with community organizing, the job is both straightforward and vital: community organizers work with families who are struggling–because of low wages, poor health coverage, unaffordable housing, and other community problems–so that collectively, they can fix those problems and make government respond to their day-to-day concerns. Organizers knock on doors, attend community meetings, visit churches and synagogues and mosques, and work with unions and civic groups and block associations to help ordinary people build power and counter the influence of self-interested insiders and highly paid lobbyists at all levels of government

Pretty fancy descrition of intermeddling parasites. .

101 Dave the.....  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:41:09am
The United Steel Workers are not happy with Palin introducing her husband as a Union member...

USW Statement on John McCain's VP Choice - LINK : [Link: [Link: www.usw.org...]...]

You have remember this about teh USW.
They are working now with enviromentalist wackos. They call it the "blue-green alliance". Get it. The nutjobs who want to close the taconite plants and steel mills.

Also the USW recently formed an alliance (merger?) with an international union. Their self stated goal? To "fight international capitalism". Not making this up.

Steel workers have to be some of the dumbest people in the world. Okay, I can't say that as I knew a few a while back. Maybe ignorant is a better word.

102 AnotherRightWingConspirator  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:41:19am

Governor Palin has similar executive bona fides as Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and George Bush did before they became POTUS. How does any thinking person (i.e., persons outside of the MSM) believe that Obama's experience is preferable?

103 fishbob  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:41:30am

re: #78 Ringo the Gringo

I've organized a few block parties in my day, does that make me a "community organizer"?

sounds like it to me.....and a good one at that !

104 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:41:31am

re: #87 FrogMarch

Note to community organizers; She was referring to THIS.

Thanks for reposting that. What organizers are working on rebuilding that neighborhood, that 0bama and his friends destroyed?

105 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:41:42am

I think "community organizers" should rebrand themselves with a more dynamic-sounding name; something like... oh, I dunno... "action groups"! Yeah, that's the ticket!

/deliberate hyperbole, 'kay?

106 American Soldier  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:42:03am

I thought at first that site was a clever joke.

We have community organizers here in my city of 50,000. We call them the Mayor, City Councilmen, precinct workers. We call them the concerned people who make it a point to show up at Council meetings, School Board meetings, assorted hearings, and the like. We call them the folks who regularly and thoughtfully vote. We call them citizens.

Professional "community organizers" are simply the forward infiltrators of socialism.

107 ronaldusmagnus  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:42:10am

John Raskin, the "organizer" of Community Organizers of America perfectly illustrates why so-called "community organizers" are held in disdain by many. He comes off as a well-intentioned useful idiot. Not surprisingly, he associates with leftists. Just another guy trying his hardest to achieve a socialist utopia.

Do I hold most community organizers in disdain? Yep.
They exist by perpetuating victimhood. Their funding is typically from taxpayer coffers, directly or indirectly. Many insist on playing the guilt card to shame others into empathy for their cause. But most notably, they insist that people are largely helpless, are under the thumb of "the man" and their only hope is a government solution.

108 maddogg  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:42:25am

Al Capone did a little community organizin' in Chicago back a few years I heard......Only back then they called them hoodlums.

109 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:42:25am

Comments on the organizersfightback site (see tiny link below the body text):

As someone else said on another blog…
Jesus Christ was a community organizer. Pontius Pilate was a governor.
Perhaps “good Christian” Sarah Palin should consider that.

-- and --

The community organizers are the real public SERVANTS. Palin and her kind are just power-grabbers.

-- and one lone brave soul --

She’s right. You guys are just rabble rousers who accomplish nothing, and have no real responsibilities.

110 jill e  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:42:35am

Yada yada yada yada....blah blah blah blah...move along and get a life...

111 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:42:37am

re: #44 right_on_target

What is a community organizer, REALLY?

they go into a troubled neighborhood, attempt to 'organize' the people by pointing out grievances they promise to correct. they rally the people, start the marches, protests, register voters, seek 'direct results' (money) from local gov't., state, feds.
once the community organizer has power and money they can really start the shake downs. often little of that money (aid) ends up going to the local people.
who end up abandoned.

112 Dianna  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:43:12am

re: #100 pat

Why do they want the government to fix it? The rigid, bureaucratic response of a government is the last way to fix anything!

113 jorline  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:43:25am

Final-Night Protest Threat

ST. PAUL — Police are preparing for a last-ditch protest by anti-war demonstrators threatening to take to the streets Thursday night during John McCain’s presidential nomination acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention.

The stage was set for a showdown as a coalition of protesters told reporters a day earlier that it is ready to violate the expiration of its permit — now limited to a rally at the state Capitol between 5-6 p.m. ET Thursday — and march to the Xcel Energy Center, site of the GOP convention.

Break out the rubber bullets and nightsticks.

114 lifeofthemind  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:43:36am

re: #71 Ringo the Gringo

The United Steel Workers are not happy with Palin introducing her husband as a Union member...

USW Statement on John McCain's VP Choice - LINK : [Link: www.usw.org...]

Interesting, if the Republicans get in and build the military we need that will mean cutting lots of steel. Good union American jobs.

115 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:43:52am

re: #108 maddogg

Al Capone did a little community organizin' in Chicago back a few years I heard......Only back then they called them hoodlums.

So did David Barksdale. Same city, different group.

116 itellu3times  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:44:03am

OK, here's the thing. I wish 0bambi and Biden were really interested in the middle class, the working class, any class, for anything more than their votes. I think there are a lot of bad trends in the economy, but these two guys are senators, what have they DONE? Nada. What are they proposing, really? A few lines on the campaign web site do not convince me. What does their PARTY really propose? Nothing, that I can see. Just talk from a couple of blowhards.

Now, they may have a tiny point, in that we don't even get the hot air from McCain. Palin, talked all about working people, but she's mostly comfortable with things, it seems, she's not proposing anything huge, just fairness and clear thinking. I'll take that. But yeah, I do feel that McCain is a bit disconnected on the economy.

117 SpartanWoman  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:44:05am

re: #100 pat

From article

Pretty fancy descrition of intermeddling parasites. .

They are more than parasitical they are there to drum up hatreds and chaos in many cases. Good riddance

118 zombie  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:44:06am

Combing through my "souvenirs" from Denver and I found this little scrap of xeroxed paper with "chants" for anarchists to say on various marches (handed out to appropriate-looking anarcho-trustafarians during riots, such as myself). Here's one I never heard being said in person, but is worth presenting here:

Call: It's your money; your greed; your company
Response: It's your fault, it's your fault, it's your fault.

"It's your fault, it's your fault, it's your fault" kinda sums up the entire left-wing weltauungshung.
(Yeah, I almost certainly misspelled that. No way I'm going to look it up.)
...

Another:

Call: You can put our friends in jail
Response: But we will drive the final nail!

119 jorline  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:44:25am

re: #113 jorline

Final-Night Protest Threat

Break out the rubber bullets and nightsticks.

I guess you could call these asshats "Community Organizers".

120 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:44:44am

Another victim group brought to you by the Modern Democrat Party.

121 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:44:54am

Do community organizers do something other than use poor people as human shields to lobby for socialist policies?

122 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:45:15am

re: #118 zombie

Organized anarchists.... HEH!

123 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:45:26am

Interesting...

The Sun says that some 30 million people tuned in for Sarah Palin's speech. The most ever for a Vice Presidential candidate.

124 UFO TOFU  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:45:35am

#87 Frog March
"Obama's Katrina"
I like it!

125 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:45:48am

re: #116 itellu3times

I wish 0bambi and Biden were really interested in the middle class, the working class, any class

Better still, let's move away from thinking about divvying up society into "classes" altogether.

There is no such thing as some monolothic, static "working class" in this country.

126 Ceemack  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:45:51am

No horse pulling a carriage ever wore blinders as big as the ones worn by the people gleefully posting their support on that site.

Some "community organizers" do good things. The ones who run food banks and soup kitchens fall into this category.

But for every one who does something worthwhile, there's another "community organizer" who actually harms their community. Al Sharpton and the Tawana Brawley mess comes to mind. Then there are groups like La Raza and Mecha, who are deliberately trying to tear the Southwest apart and retard the education of Latino students.

So far as I know, Barry can't point to any worthwhile accomplishments as a "community organizer". He was on the board of an educational organization that spent $50 million dollars to accomplish absolutely nothing...which doesn't sound like an "actual responsibility" to me.

127 pat  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:45:58am

William Ayers was a community organizer.

128 rawmuse  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:46:19am

re: #101 Dave the.....

You are absolutely correct, that is a fine assessment. The top ranks of all the big unions are occupied by the old style Wobblies and Communists.

129 jackfetch  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:46:42am

So... lemme get this straight, people who attempt to get stir up political power to "challenge the mayor's office" or whatever, people who move into a "community" (but are not part of it), then rile everyone up for some perceived wrong, basically politicize a neighborhood, or ethnic group for some purpose that didn't really exist before they pointed it out... these are the "heroes" working hard for America? They remind me more of union agitators "wandering" into factories straight off the plane from New Jersey.

And by the way, by all accounts, Obama was a fruitless community organizer. He apparently spent all his community organizing time running for the state legislature.

130 maddogg  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:46:48am

re: #123 Dirk Diggler

Interesting...

The Sun says that some 30 million people tuned in for Sarah Palin's speech. The most ever for a Vice Presidential candidate.

Sexy sells.

131 Spenser (with an S)  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:46:54am

So, nice to see Rosario Dawson at the RNC. I might have to put her on my "list" now.

/Friends reference

132 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:46:57am

re: #93 lifeofthemind

Community organizers are people who show up at a fire and either pour gasoline on it or start moving the ladder while the real professional responders are standing on it. They are paid interns for political machines or act as uneducated and unlicensed ministers without any of the messy impediments of religion or responsibility.

IOW, freakin' troublemakers.

133 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:47:10am

re: #124 UFO TOFU

#87 Frog March
"Obama's Katrina"
I like it!

And unlike the real Katrina, it's not a natural disaster. It's entirely man-made.

134 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:47:41am

re: #121 RememberSekhmet?

Do community organizers do something other than use poor people as human shields to lobby for socialist policies?

probably not.
it's abt. money and power for the organization.
they don't value the individual.

135 kynna  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:47:45am

re: #127 pat

William Ayers was a community organizer.

Tookie Williams (founder of The Crips) was a very 'successful' community organizer.

136 Celtic Templar  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:48:06am

In the former (?) Soviet Union, political commissars were deployed to various "communities" - they were the Communist party's tentacles in an agrarian society. Are community organizers the same? I know its the community organizers that rally the old folks up to go vote - for the Democrats in my town. Do they push the big government, nanny state to their communities (I know the answer)?
Soviet Community Organizer ;)

137 fishbob  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:48:18am

Man...these community organizers have really gotten me worried now

/

138 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:48:41am

re: #127 pat

William Ayers was a community organizer.

that says it all.

139 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:48:42am

re: #30 right_wing2

Latest Gallup poll shows the Obamessiah up by 7. Rasmussen, including 'leaners' shows a 5 point lead by the Messiah. Let's send him back to Chicago!

It will be a few days before Palin effect is measured.

In the meantime, intrade gives immediate market based feedback. By that measure, things turned rather sharply last night - McCain now 42 Obama 58.

140 itellu3times  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:49:06am

re: #125 Occasional Reader

Better still, let's move away from thinking about divvying up society into "classes" altogether.

There is no such thing as some monolothic, static "working class" in this country.

OK so they're dynamic, but the middle-class salaryman category in this country has almost vanished, compared to even twenty years ago, and I see this as a problem. Automation and outsourcing are the two big changes. Only government, goes on pretty much as it was. BTW, although I see the situation as a problem, I do not really have a solution to offer, either. But in general, outsourcing is more of a problem than either party has acknowledged. I'd be happy just for an open and informed discussion.

141 dhawken  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:49:06am

Please tell me this comment is tongue in cheek:

"how dare she MOCK the symbolic columns from Obama’s speech that were clearly intended to commemorate the accomplishments of MLK on its anniversary. Is nothing sacred?"

142 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:49:13am

re: #101 Dave the.....

You have remember this about teh USW.
They are working now with enviromentalist wackos. They call it the "blue-green alliance". Get it. The nutjobs who want to close the taconite plants and steel mills.

Also the USW recently formed an alliance (merger?) with an international union. Their self stated goal? To "fight international capitalism". Not making this up.

Steel workers have to be some of the dumbest people in the world. Okay, I can't say that as I knew a few a while back. Maybe ignorant is a better word.

Well, I think the rank-and-file are different from the executives of the unions. The union takes the dues and spends them on whatever the hell they want to, usually causes counter to the beliefs of the rank-and-file.

143 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:49:19am

re: #137 fishbob

Man...these community organizers have really gotten me worried now
/


I know. They look positively ferocious in that photo at the top of that blog!
/

144 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:49:21am

re: #111 nyc redneck

Which is exactly what happened to the folks that Hugh Briss "worked" for. His big thing was to get organized to get rid of the asbestos in the buildings. It is still there. Every little bit of it.

Community organizer - definition - A self appointed leach who sucks money away from the people he is trying to "help". May create a bogus crisis and demand action with will divert money to people in his political establishment.

Call the waambulance, the community organizers have been outed as what they are.

145 CommonCents  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:49:35am

Organizers knock on doors, attend community meetings, visit churches and synagogues and mosques, and work with unions and civic groups and block associations ...

The key here is that they knock, attend, visit, and assist. That is somewhat different from "Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States", "he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States", "Power ... to make Treaties", "appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States", etc. etc.

And just as an aside, the Constitution favors John McCain

Section 4 - Republican government

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

146 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:49:45am

re: #127 pat

William Ayers was a community organizer.

He organized components into working bombs.

147 Nancy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:49:56am

re: #83 Honorary Yooper

Or --/sarcasm here/maybe it's because he lives in Alaska and that doesn't count.

Mighty chilly up here in yooperland --furnace kicked in this morning! Two days ago I was in the lake swimming but alas......if it gets any colder I might have dig out the snow shovel.........ha ha.

148 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:50:03am

re: #139 karmic_inquisitor

What does that mean about intrade?

149 brainwizard73  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:50:04am

Seriously, I don't appriciate it when The Onion gets its stories in the mainstream...it just confuses people.

This is from The Onion, right?

150 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:50:06am

Folks I'm a community organizer. l'll have you all know that in between my time on LGF, my long afternoon naps, and frequent beer runs I provide invaluable services to my community.

151 Thunderbottom  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:50:56am

So, where does one find these "community organizers" (i.e., rabble-rousing socialists)? In communities - in cities devastated by the policies of liberal/leftist-run communities (e.g., Chicago, Detroit, New York, San Francisco). These are places with high property and sales taxes, arcane zoning laws, "living wage" requirements for businesses, high crime, and crummy schools, all brought about by clueless "good government" types which have served to drive out businesses and middle-class home owners. Most, if not all of these "organizers" take their ideas and tactics from the late neo-Marxist organizer, Chicagoan Saul Alinsky.

152 Son of the Black Dog  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:50:56am

re: #9 Cindermutha

Why do they write in the same 5th grade style as the drive-by trolls?

Question asked - question answered.

153 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:51:18am
154 Fat Jolly Penguin  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:51:37am
155 MJ  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:51:43am

re: #27 mj

This was actually being promoted yesterday on CNN by Roland Martin ( is that his name)? He said both his parents are 'community organizers" and Palin was going to hear from them across the country.

He was serious.


Which just goes to show you how un-serious CNN News has become.

Here's Roland Martin's rejoiner about community organizers
on CNN last night. What a hoot:

156 Dianna  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:52:09am

re: #116 itellu3times

McCain's said that he doesn't really get economics.

My main hope is that he has the good sense to come out in front of the convention and say what amounts to, "My campaign finance reform was a combination of a pious hope and a self-righteous, finger-wagging sermon. It didn't work. I've learned from that."

157 Dahveed  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:52:41am

re: #69 itellu3times

Depends, on who they were organizing, and what for, what else is on the resume, and what you're hiring for. In some places, jobs like that are considered like spending time in the peace corps, or missionary work, and like that. Idealistic, resume *enhancing*. I suspect that's how 0bambi saw it. Heck, it worked for him.

Back in the day when I prepared tax returns we used to joke about some of the people that were self-employed consultants. We would joke that these people were really unemployed. Many of them had no real career and they really made little money as "consultants" but they still insisted on calling themselves "consultants" without anything else to describe the job they do. I, perhaps unjustifiably, put "community organizers" in this group. It seems to me that a community organizer should be able to really describe what they do exactly.

158 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:52:50am

(cross-posted from a prior thread)

Post-Palin Wrapup -- #363 by annefrance

-250 and climbing

/blatant advertisement

159 Paul  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:54:26am

Man, the community organizers are really pissed off! Now they won't vote for McCain/Palin.

....oh, wait.

160 realwest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:54:34am

re: #139 karmic_inquisitor
Hey karmic!

It will be a few days before Palin effect is measured.

In the meantime, intrade gives immediate market based feedback. By that measure, things turned rather sharply last night - McCain now 42 Obama 58.


So you're telling us that intrade gave Palin horrible reviews?!? Don't know who intrade really is, but if they think Obama GAINED from Palin's speech, they're wrong.

161 red satellite  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:55:00am

This insanity reminds me of Tiger Woods' apology to all spastic people.

162 yma o hyd  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:55:10am

re: #72 kynna

Here we go. Community organizers.

A million updings for that - especially as there's a Palin in it ...

163 brainwizard73  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:55:15am

re: #151 Thunderbottom

You are right. I don't recall seeing "community organizers" anywhere but large cities run by Democrats and full of people that they pander to...hmmm, you might be onto something.

164 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:56:08am

re: #148 newsjunkie_ky

What does that mean about intrade?

Sorry for not explaining it.

intrade trades futures contracts on the outcome of future events.

This link gives you the realtime price of John McCain getting elected president. You can pay 42 bucks right now for the contract - if he is elected, you will get 100 bucks. If he isn't you get 0.

It isn't betting because there is someone selling you that contract who thinks that s/he is going to walk away with your 42 bucks.

Anyway, intrade trading has had McCain down below 40 for much of last week and now he is near 42. He hit 42.5 this morning which was a new high for him (he wasn't that high when he was tied in the polls with BHO 2 weeks ago).

So there is a decent sentiment swing in favor of McCain.

165 kcladderman  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:56:13am

We had a community organizer here that won a free garage. built and supplied,it was a contest people submitted names of people who had done something worthy over the last year.

This guy submitted his own story and won!

166 Peter Verkooijen  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:56:59am

re: #29 deadman

I searched the web and am still not clear on what community organizer does. How is it different from the old Chicago style "ward heeler"? Other than the former specializing in disposing of federal money.

Community organizers are like gauleiters. It's pure socialist BS. They're not teachers, they're not nurses, they're not even social workers. Don't let them get away with pretending they are.

167 Sir Lurksalot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:57:03am

She should say

"I'm sorry. I was way off base. You are all Presidential material"

168 GreenBear  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:57:28am

Yes, BHO used his "community organizer" experience well when the people in several of the Rezmar run housing project were freezing in the harsh 1997 winter:

"By the time Obama entered the state Senate in 1997, the buildings were beginning to deteriorate. In January 1997, the city sued Rezmar for failing to provide adequate heat in a South Side building in the middle of an unusually cold winter. It was one of more than two dozen housing-complaint suits filed by the city against Rezmar for violations at its properties." Link

All he "organized" was lunches with slimebag and future convicted felon Tony Rezko (who founded Rezmar in 1989).

Maybe, just maybe, there are community organizers who are good at what they do out there but I don't think BHO was ever one of them.

169 brainwizard73  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:58:09am

re: #154 Fat Jolly Penguin

Wanna bet she is the alter-ego of Andrea Mitchell?

170 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:59:20am

re: #160 realwest

Hey karmic!


So you're telling us that intrade gave Palin horrible reviews?!? Don't know who intrade really is, but if they think Obama GAINED from Palin's speech, they're wrong.

Sorry for not giving context - intrade is showing a +2.5 point improvement, and it is climbing as Palin's speech is getting covered by the press as a success.

The prices don't reflect poll numbers per se - they exaggerate them, frankly.

McCain is still behind, but this may be the last week where you can buy McCain for under 50.

171 kynna  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:00:21am

re: #162 yma o hyd

A million updings for that - especially as there's a Palin in it ...

LOL. I didn't even realize. It's like it was meant to be. Heh.

172 fishbob  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:00:54am

re: #143 NoSubmission

I know. They look positively ferocious in that photo at the top of that blog!
/

yes they do! kind of like the rest of the crowd we saw in Denver a few days ago.

You see that sign "We Need Affordable Housing" ?

My response: "Newsflash.....so do I, thats why I'm saving my money"

173 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:01:03am
174 adilo  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:01:54am

Anybody else smell a rat?
John Raskin, founder of Community Organizers of America
[Link: www.actnowny.org...]

175 Nancy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:02:11am

Of course, if communities were run well by whatever governmental body oversees them AND by the citizens of that community participating in their community, they would not NEED organizers to come in and tell them how to make their communities better.

It's another one of those organizations that CANNOT achieve their goal because then communities would not need them.

176 so.cal.swede  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:02:59am

I must especially approve highly of the "Community Organizers" (read: White people with too much free time) comparison with themselves to Jesus Christ.

I ... What.... Could you say that in the same sentence you say Palin is "out of touch"?

.. Dumbfounded.... Baffled.. you.. Jesus Christ? ... I .. I .. really? REALLY? JESUS?


Come the FUCK on!

177 GreenBear  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:03:01am

re: #168 GreenBear

Yes, BHO used his "community organizer" experience well when the people in several of the Rezmar run housing project were freezing in the harsh 1997 winter:

"By the time Obama entered the state Senate in 1997, the buildings were beginning to deteriorate. In January 1997, the city sued Rezmar for failing to provide adequate heat in a South Side building in the middle of an unusually cold winter. It was one of more than two dozen housing-complaint suits filed by the city against Rezmar for violations at its properties." Link

All he "organized" was lunches with slimebag and future convicted felon Tony Rezko (who founded Rezmar in 1989).

Maybe, just maybe, there are community organizers who are good at what they do out there but I don't think BHO was ever one of them.

You know, I tried to post this comment over at the community organizer fights back site and they deleted it.

Never would have seen that one coming...

I guess it disturbed their little foot-stamping tantrum at "Barracuda Sarah".

All I can ask is who next for the little lady?

178 redstateredneck  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:03:13am

Wow. Not only did she offend community organizers, but probably every black person in America.

Offending probably every black person in America, she insulted Barack Obama's job as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago by claiming her mayoral job was like it, "except with actual responsibility."


Nastay link

179 Thunderbottom  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:03:26am

re: #37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They dont have any, they only have causes and agendas. If they fail, they can always fall back on "Well, I tried."

"Every 'great cause' begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket." - Anonymous

Racketeers - that's what these people are.

180 lifeofthemind  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:03:43am

re: #174 adilo

Anybody else smell a rat?
John Raskin, founder of Community Organizers of America
[Link: www.actnowny.org...]

A man who organizes community organizers for a living. Everyone can just go to Yes Minister on Youtube and learn about the Ministry of Administrative Affairs.

181 Celtic Templar  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:03:53am

re: #178 redstateredneck

Wow. Not only did she offend community organizers, but probably every black person in America.

Nastay link

Does it matter, isn't Obama getting a 90% vote from the black community? Who is racist again?

182 else  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:06:04am

“I have ‘actual responsibilities,’” said Jacqueline del Valle, a community organizer in the Bronx.
Which are?..Seems to me it doesn't go past " fix those problems and make government respond to their day-to-day concerns....knock on doors, attend community meetings, visit churches and synagogues and mosques, and work with unions and civic groups and block associations to help ordinary people build power and counter the influence of self-interested insiders and highly paid lobbyists at all levels of government."
Not without an agenda, I'll tell ya.

183 so.cal.swede  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:07:09am

re: #181 Celtic Templar

it's not racist to base your vote on skin color.

although it's awfully, AWFULLY stupid. Poor black people who feel victimized by the government should really look beyond Obama's skin color ASAP. He is the embodiment of Government control.

Sarah Palin, although a white devil, probably has more in common with them than they realize.

184 bill-tb  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:07:46am

ACORN must be ticked off they have been outed. Sweetness and Light is running a series on Alinsky's community organizer. Yes, it's just about what you think, indoctrination camp for the indoctrinators. Recruiting the next Brown Shirts. who wouldn't be proud to have that on their record.

185 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:08:46am
186 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:08:58am

re: #180 lifeofthemind

A man who organizes community organizers for a living. Everyone can just go to Yes Minister on Youtube and learn about the Ministry of Administrative Affairs.

Is that anything like the Ministry of Silly Walks?

187 HoosierHoops  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:09:36am

re: #154 Fat Jolly Penguin

asshat-france just hit -250...


I'm telling you..It would be so cool to have a hall of shame so we could revisit this super effort by asshat france in the distant future..
France's bronze head should be in the left wing of the hall...

188 Eowyn2  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:10:06am

re: #7 NoSubmission


as well as every governor between the mississippi and the rocky mountains and Alaska and Hawaii

189 Outrider  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:10:07am

re: #38 lifeofthemind

Soon to trot out:
The National Association of Serving Community ORganizers will rally and demand respect. Obama will attend a vegie barbecue and Vespa race to build solidarity with his fellow NASCOR Dads.

Who's bringing the arugula?

190 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:10:14am

re: #187 HoosierHoops

I'm telling you..It would be so cool to have a hall of shame so we could revisit this super effort by asshat france in the distant future..
France's bronze head gamey troll buttocks should be in the left wing of the hall...

Fixed it.

191 GreenBear  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:10:26am

re: #178 redstateredneck

Wow. Not only did she offend community organizers, but probably every black person in America.

Nastay link

Well, maybe not every black person.

Check out Zo Man

Zo Man is still with Sarah and takes on Duddy, uh, Diddy...

Very funny and straight to heart.

192 adilo  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:10:46am
re: #180 lifeofthemind

A man who organizes community organizers for a living. Everyone can just go to Yes Minister on Youtube and learn about the Ministry of Administrative Affairs.

Is that anything like the Ministry of Silly Walks?

Dept. of Redundancy Dept.

193 Kulhwch  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:10:49am

re: #54 jorline

I posted this last night, but I can't remember who said it now.

They made the comment about wanting to see Biden and Romney debate.
They said it would be like a fight between the biggest loud mouth in the bar and the bar owner.

Red State Update.

}:(     [This oneshows that Toby Keith is a Dhimmicrat ... ]

194 ronaldusmagnus  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:11:13am

I just tried to submit a comment at their site - wouldn't go through - must have turned it off.

Too many lizards clicking through and setting them straight?

195 Celtic Templar  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:12:40am

re: #183 so.cal.swede

it's not racist to base your vote on skin color.

although it's awfully, AWFULLY stupid. Poor black people who feel victimized by the government should really look beyond Obama's skin color ASAP. He is the embodiment of Government control.

Sarah Palin, although a white devil, probably has more in common with them than they realize.

I don't agree. I'm voting for McCain because he is white? Are you kidding me? That is not racist? Colorist?

196 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:13:17am

Serious question for any takers.

I am dusting through the threads.

Can't get to some links about community organizers.

If someone in the community is an organizer, who signs the paycheck?

197 GreenBear  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:14:36am

re: #194 ronaldusmagnus

I just tried to submit a comment at their site - wouldn't go through - must have turned it off.

Too many lizards clicking through and setting them straight?

No, just our comments.

I saw at least 20 comments go up and had mine deleted for not being properly "organized" I guess.

198 calcajun  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:16:45am

I notice that small town mayors are not up in arms over The One's statements denigrating and belittling their posts. Perhaps they're all too busy working to notice the slight.

199 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:18:15am

re: #192 adilo

Dept. of Redundancy Dept.

Well, we know community organizers stay away from the Natural Guard.

200 bill-tb  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:18:15am

re: #196 formercorpsman

Sweetness and Light is doing a series on Saul Alinsky Organizers, the model for ACORN, which is where Obama worked for three years while he was organizing. Community Organizing is a semaphore for workers revolution, which then means Communism.

201 debutaunt  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:18:31am

re: #3 NoSubmission

Do the community organizers need a community organizer now?

Just askin'.

hahahahahhahahahhahaha

202 wolfie  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:18:33am

re: #156 Dianna

McCain's said that he doesn't really get economics.
My main hope is that he has the good sense to come out in front of the convention and say what amounts to, "My campaign finance reform was a combination of a pious hope and a self-righteous, finger-wagging sermon. It didn't work. I've learned from that."

Obama doesn't get economics either, but he claims he does. He doesn't know what he doesn't know. Dangerous.

203 mean Gene  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:18:35am

Hey!
I've been a ''community organizer'' for years in my city.
Guess what?
Sarah Palin is absolutely right.
I could walk away at any time.
But, over the years I have helped get rid of 6 or 7 drug dealers, an illegal gang-oriented gun dealer, the lead paint out of 80 units worth of apartments and helped keep gangs from getting near children (to hold/move drugs for them) on their way to and from school via moms stationed all along the routes to the gang targeted school.
So, while it's all been worthwhile, I could walk away at any time!
Sarah is right, 0bama is a liar.

204 fishbob  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:19:30am

re: #198 calcajun

I notice that small town mayors are not up in arms over The One's statements denigrating and belittling their posts. Perhaps they're all too busy working to notice the slight.

not just working, but organizing their communities

205 wolfie  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:19:44am

re: #196 formercorpsman

Usually WE do. The taxpayer.

206 Shrugger  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:20:21am

re: #197 GreenBear

They're definitely squelching any dissenting opinions. I am watching as my comments, which were very mildly critical of their thesis, are never coming out of moderation despite more recent posts coming through.

Expected but disappointing...

207 GreenBear  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:20:38am

re: #198 calcajun

I notice that small town mayors are not up in arms over The One's statements denigrating and belittling their posts. Perhaps they're all too busy working to notice the slight.

Well, their "community organizers" have to tell them what's going on first before they can do anything.

CO's are the lifeblood of the American Small Town Experience, don't you know.

Of course they replaced the Little Old Ladies Running a Bake Sale Federation which lacked the federal funding...

208 right_on_target  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:21:47am

re: #174 adilo

Anybody else smell a rat?
John Raskin, founder of Community Organizers of America
[Link: www.actnowny.org...]

Why would a PAC such as Community Organizers of America have a website that is registered by proxy unless the site is a scam. Anybody donating on that page has to be a fool.

209 mfarmer1  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:25:00am

I see a lot of bs on resumes sent to me after I post a help wanted ad for my small business on Craigslist. Never have I seen "community organizer" and even if I did, that resume would go straight to the trash bin. I can handle "statistical accountability technician" for a movie theater ticket taker, but this community organizer shtick sounds like the epitome of an inflated job description, and frankly, one that oozes with ultra liberal big government nanny state overtones.

Of course, even after reading this article and the newly posted website of these community organizers, I STILL have no idea just what in the hell it is they supposedly do besides knocking on doors in the community to get people to go to community meetings to organize community functions in the community.

No wonder Obama did this, it's all talk. My hunch is that these organizers cannot even fathom how anyone outside of their communities doesn't have a clue about their activities. Notice to the communities: When you can send me a resume that tells me you know how to connect servers over vpns for example instead of chit chatting with neighbors about how bad and unfair the world is, then you've got a shot at a real job.

210 HBob  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:25:04am

Maybe I've missed this, but who in the hell employs a community organizer?

Who signed Obama's paycheck when he was a community organizer?

WTF?

211 Sol Roth  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:27:29am

re: #113 jorline

Final-Night Protest Threat

Break out the rubber bullets and nightsticks.

Palin has got them so scared that I fear at least one may sacrifice himself to a real bullet for martyrdom. They are that unhinged.

212 ErnieG  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:27:40am

re: #96 Pigtown Water Dog

I just looked "community organizer" up in the OOH-Occupational Outlook Handbook: Result: ZERO results for occupations with that title.

Not recognized by the Bureau of Labor.

Maybe they need to get organized.

213 jester6  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:27:52am

At first I thought the site was a parody. Then I realized it was real. Sad.

214 kawfytawk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:28:22am

when will the mayors of all small towns across America hear an apology from the Obama campaign?

~crickets

215 fishbob  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:28:51am

Obambi FluffNstuff will be on Oreilly. And he will set the record straight on community organizers, without saying anything. Get ready. Here he comes. Oreilly will be awstruck and will fumble through it. I ain't plannin' on watching. I'm to the point where I can't stand the sight of The One.

Dear Mrs. Palin,
You have ruined me.

216 guzziguy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:29:46am

From their description it looks to me as if community organizers exist to clean up the messes of democrat city administrations. Well, at least their client list looks like the demonrat base.

217 FamHistoryGuy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:30:01am

re: #22 Right Brain

That was one of the questions I left at their website.

218 WinterCat  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:30:17am

Who pays for Community Organizers? Is that a job that is paid for by our taxes?

219 Dino74  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:30:41am

Community Organizers = The People's Commissariats for Obama

220 kansas  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:32:15am

re: #178 redstateredneck

Wow. Not only did she offend community organizers, but probably every black person in America.

Maybe the blacks won't vote for her now./

221 FamHistoryGuy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:33:19am

re: #14 Gordon Marock

What would happen if some Tibietian monks were to make one of their sand paintings? Or another group do the OMMMMM thing? How serene would things get?

222 WinterCat  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:34:03am

Apparently, a community organizer is a Democratic job title for a person who is a political activist. Getting all those people to vote the way the Democrats want them to because they are not motivated enough to take the time to do any research of issues or candidates on their own. Something tells me I am paying for this with my taxes. Why am I paying for Democrats to mobilize bodies to vote against the very things I love about America?

Here's a quote from a former community organizer. I think it paints the picture quite clearly:

"As a former community organizer, I organized against mayors and local politicians exactly like Palin; unresponsive, out of touch and unconcerned with the real problems that their own constiuents face. If Palin is anything like those mayors (which she seems to be) then all organizers are going to have to work extra hard to hold her, and the officials like her, accountable."
[Link: organizersfightback.wordpress.com...]

223 guzziguy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:35:28am

From Jorlene's post,

"“Students in this country are angry. We’re angry because it’s us that are asked to fight and die in this immoral and unjust war,”

Who the heck it this person. Obviously someone stuck in the 60s. Follow closely, idiot...v.o.l.u.n.t.e.e.r a.r.m.y

Stupid.

224 WinterCat  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:37:20am

I hope the first thing Palin does as America's first woman Vice President and soon to be America's first President is to cut the budget for Activist Community Organizers from the federal money that is surely being spent on this crap.

225 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:38:35am

Ask Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson about community organizing, AKA extortion. Come to think of it, the people "organized" in those shoddy housing projects the Obama helped his pal Rezko to scam deserve an apology.

226 Pullus Iulius  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:40:52am

Just for giggles I checked out the site. This is not going to keep me awake. Genuine, ground-up volunteers hate these "organizers."

227 mfarmer1  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:41:37am

re: #222 WinterCat

Apparently, a community organizer is a Democratic job title for a person who is a political activist. Getting all those people to vote the way the Democrats want them to because they are not motivated enough to take the time to do any research of issues or candidates on their own. Something tells me I am paying for this with my taxes. Why am I paying for Democrats to mobilize bodies to vote against the very things I love about America?

Here's a quote from a former community organizer. I think it paints the picture quite clearly:

"As a former community organizer, I organized against mayors and local politicians exactly like Palin; unresponsive, out of touch and unconcerned with the real problems that their own constiuents face. If Palin is anything like those mayors (which she seems to be) then all organizers are going to have to work extra hard to hold her, and the officials like her, accountable."
[Link: organizersfightback.wordpress.com...]

Eek! It's worse than I thought. I suppose if someone does this as a volunteer and is otherwise gainfully employed, ok. But you're right, this is starting to sound like these "organizers" are only feasting off my wallet engaged in far left partisan activities.

It's starting to look like the DNC made a big mistake going after Palin's experience as it has only highlighted The One's deficiencies in the job arena.

228 oneman  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:45:15am

Organizers...whiners....same difference.

229 twincitiesgirl  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:45:23am

A good article from City Journal written over 5 years ago but still relevant:

ACORN’s Nutty Regime for Cities

230 WinterCat  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:47:53am

re: #227 mfarmer1

If they are feasting out of the tax troff (and I will bet they are) they are surely most likely 1) democrats and 2) leftist democrats 3) mobilizing voters to vote against the things that I want rather than mobilizing people to get off their butts and get jobs. I am taking a wild guess here but I have a real strong feeling that I am correct.

Anyone have insights to the contrary?

231 GreenBear  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:48:07am

re: #223 guzziguy

From Jorlene's post,

"“Students in this country are angry. We’re angry because it’s us that are asked to fight and die in this immoral and unjust war,”

Who the heck it this person. Obviously someone stuck in the 60s. Follow closely, idiot...v.o.l.u.n.t.e.e.r a.r.m.y

Stupid.

War has always been a business for the young, but it is also a great way to great all that experience before entering the private sector and get an education as a tiny "thank you" from the people. Many credit the military for giving them a greater vision of themselves and the world.

A lot of countries have mandatory service for their young people but I doubt they get the same caliber of people that our volunteer force has. I has seen quite a few shiftless, wayward kids enter the armed forces as a way to simply get out, as a last resort. Then, miraculously, they find purpose and direction and actually become worthwhile human beings, even if they don't stay in.

The service is not for everyone and, if it isn't, get out as soon as your hitch is up and become a community organizer. Or wait until ol' Barry gets elected and join his Jungen Corps...

232 Ceemack  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:48:13am

re: #153 buzzsawmonkey

re: #153 buzzsawmonkey

He didn't accomplish "absolutely nothing." According to some of the recent spinoff links, the Annenberg money accomplished the funding of programs creating "race consciousness" and "ethnic consciousness"--i.e., social division and fragmentation--and undermined funding of programs that threatened to teach hard subjects like math or history or English.

"Nothing" in terms of improved academic performance, which was what the Annenberg initiative was supposed to be all about. But you're right...he did manage to sow racial division and retard true education reform.

I understand that the idea of funding the "Chicago Algebra Project" was just too hot a potato for he and Ayers to support it.

233 exredtory  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:48:55am

I, like others, was simply going to ask WTF is a "community organizer" anyway, but by the time I got this far in the comments, I realized there is another word for them - parasites.

234 HBob  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:49:57am

re: #216 guzziguy

From their description it looks to me as if community organizers exist to clean up the messes of democrat city administrations. Well, at least their client list looks like the demonrat base.

Look at the most liberal cities in America. The more liberal they are, the more likely the residents in that city are to be robbed, raped and or murdered. The higher their taxes are, the crappier their schools are. It does look like community organizers are the flies on the shit wagon of liberalism.

235 GreenBear  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:50:29am

re: #233 exredtory

I, like others, was simply going to ask WTF is a "community organizer" anyway, but by the time I got this far in the comments, I realized there is another word for them - parasites.

So, then we're agreed on the new term "community tick"?

236 Outrider  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:50:52am

I find all the hullaballo concerning the title Community Organizer to be a little silly.

It is a legitimate volunteer position and in many communities an important job that really needs filling. A neighbor attempting to organize a Neighborhood Watch would be a legitimate Community Organizer as would the local Clean and Beautiful Committee. And it isn't strictly for Democrats or liberals as I have done both of these jobs and some other volunteer positions. It is a leadership job starting, organizing, and running these platforms, as well as trying to scrounge funding and managing it. Is it equivalent to a Mayors position or even close to equal? No, and it would be absurd to equate the two.

Would I count it as employment experience? Certainly depending on the job the applicant is trying for. Would I count it as leadership experience for the position of President of the United States? No. And I think by doing so, he is minimizing the position of POTUS.

237 Devolving One  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:51:29am

Community Organizer: read "Activist."

This is in keeping with Obama's foundational principles of Liberation Theology (Marxism dressed-up in Christian clothing):

1. The State is "god."
2. Personal Salvation becomes the Collective/Group (identity politics) being liberated (saved) through the State/God recognizing and providing all of our needs, equally. This is seen as "justice."
3. Evangelism becomes Activism.
4. Policies/Doctrines are all "this world" oriented (Political Correctness) in order to -
5. Build Heaven on Earth, a Man-made, global utopia.

There is more than a "culture war" taking place here.

238 HippieforLife  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:51:45am

Hmm, back in my day these people were know as social workers. They always have alot of words and very few actions. This is just a fancy phrase for all the libs out there who care more about the "great unwashed", as my sainted Granny always said. This is like welfare with lipstick!

In the mean time, B wrote 2 autobiographies, about a man nobody knew, so maybe being a community organizer didn't pay all that well.

239 redstateredneck  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:52:08am

ACORN's good at that voter registration fraud thing, too.

240 littleoldlady  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:52:23am

I haven't read the whole thread ... but did someone else figure out that there's no such thing (I yahoo'd) as "Community Organizers of America"?

/group formed last night at 11:02 PM Eastern?
//by the Obama camp? ;-)

241 WinterCat  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:52:42am

re: #229 twincitiesgirl


It promotes a 1960s-bred agenda of anti-capitalism, central planning, victimology, and government handouts to the poor. As a result, not only does it harm the poor it claims to serve; it is also a serious threat to the urban future.

Thanks for the great link. Very eye opening.

242 HBob  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:52:52am

re: #226 Pullus Iulius

Just for giggles I checked out the site. This is not going to keep me awake. Genuine, ground-up volunteers hate these "organizers."

Post on it. Take them on. It's already started. They'll take the whole thing down in a matter of hours. They are the f*cking middleman in the cesspool of liberalism.

243 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:53:43am

re: #47 right_wing2

According to Wiki:
"Community organizing is a process by which people are brought together to act in common self-interest. While organizing describes any activity involving people interacting with one another in a formal manner, much community organizing is in the pursuit of a common agenda. Many groups seek populist goals and the ideal of participatory democracy. Community organizers create social movements by building a base of concerned people, mobilizing these community members to act, and developing leadership from and relationships among the people involved."

Sounds like the PTA to me. What does a community organizer's daily schedule look like? Sit in meetings and make folks feel like someone important is listening?

244 Crusty  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:54:16am

The National Organization Of People Who Get Offended By Stuff and the Committee of Citizens Who Can't Make Intelligent Distinctions today demanded an apology from Sarah "Pull The Trigger 'Til The Gun Goes Click" Palin...

Get ready for a lot of headlines that essentially boil down to the above. The more attacks on Palin that lead down a blind alley of the left's own lies, the more attacks they will launch.

245 Outrider  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:56:41am

Reading some of these comments I can see why it was difficult to find volunteers to make the community a nicer place to live by doing such jobs as Adopt A Highway, library reader, and escort for elderly.

It seems these jobs are only for liberals, parasites, or ticks? Who knew?

246 nikis-knight  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 11:59:22am

My questions for community organizers:
1) Who pays you?
2) What are the pre-requsites for your job?
3) Who measures your job performance, and against what?
4) If a community organizer, say, didn't come into 'work' on time, who would fire them?
5) You are all commie demagogues, aren't you?

247 GreenBear  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:00:01pm

re: #244 Crusty

The National Organization Of People Who Get Offended By Stuff and the Committee of Citizens Who Can't Make Intelligent Distinctions today demanded an apology from Sarah "Pull The Trigger 'Til The Gun Goes Click" Palin...

Get ready for a lot of headlines that essentially boil down to the above. The more attacks on Palin that lead down a blind alley of the left's own lies, the more attacks they will launch.

Hey, if she was ticking off the lefties, how would we know she was making an impact.

I have found that you can often judge a person by the enemies they make. I think Sarah is scaring the right people. :)

248 WinterCat  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:00:19pm

re: #236 Outrider

Sounds like you approached organizing differently than the ACORN folks who use it to promote their political agenda. I too have done a good deal of community organizing without the moniker ... and without a cent of tax dollars and for issues that were not promoting the interests of one party over another. My complaint is when a community organizer uses my tax dollars to further the interests of an organization or political party.

249 Billy Hank  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:04:48pm

Wonder how many of the hundreds of thousands of new voter names added to the rolls this election cycle list community organizer store fronts as their home address?

250 right_wing2  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:05:08pm

re: #223 guzziguy

From Jorlene's post,

"“Students in this country are angry. We’re angry because it’s us that are asked to fight and die in this immoral and unjust war,”

Who the heck it this person. Obviously someone stuck in the 60s. Follow closely, idiot...v.o.l.u.n.t.e.e.r a.r.m.y

Stupid.

No no, you don't understand. They wanted to join the army, but they weren't told they might actually have to do something more than act as 'global ambassadors', dealing with the aftermath of natural disasters.

251 Outrider  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:07:23pm

re: #248 WinterCat

Sounds like you approached organizing differently than the ACORN folks who use it to promote their political agenda. I too have done a good deal of community organizing without the moniker ... and without a cent of tax dollars and for issues that were not promoting the interests of one party over another. My complaint is when a community organizer uses my tax dollars to further the interests of an organization or political party.

I agree 100%. It is a job without a paycheck. And yes, a distinction needs to be made between the agendas for the volunteer work to start with.

252 quickjustice  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:07:30pm

From [Link: www.theobamafile.com...]

"One of Obama's early mentors in the Alinsky method was Mike Kruglik, who had this to say to an interviewer of The New Republic, about Obama:

"He was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation, who could engage a room full of recruiting targets in a rapid-fire Socratic dialogue, nudging them to admit that they were not living up to their own standards. As with the panhandler, he could be aggressive and confrontational. With probing, sometimes personal questions, he would pinpoint the source of pain in their lives, tearing down their egos just enough before dangling a carrot of hope that they could make things better."

The agitator's job, according to Alinsky, is first to bring folks to the "realization" that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of unresponsive governments or greedy corporations, then help them to bond together to demand what they deserve, and to make such an almighty stink that the dastardly governments and corporations will see imminent "self-interest" in granting whatever it is that will cause the harassment to cease.

In these methods, euphemistically labeled "community organizing," Obama had a four-year education, which he often says was the best education he ever got anywhere.

For three years Barack Obama was the director of Developing Communities Project, an institutionally based community organization on Chicago’s far south side. He has also been a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, an organizing institute working throughout the Midwest."

253 MJBrutus  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:07:34pm

What do you think angry mobs just happen? Heck no! It's a thankless job, but somebody has to sharpen the pitchforks, soak the torches in oil and gather up all the good throwing rocks.

254 WinterCat  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:09:50pm

re: #249 Billy Hank


And I wonder for whom they are being urged to vote.

Thanks Sarah for raising this important issue so that Americans can now see where their tax dollars need to be cut.

Sarah! Sarah! Sarah!

255 WinterCat  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:10:19pm

re: #251 Outrider

:)

256 kynna  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:10:28pm

Ya know the thing about listening to Rush is that you have to listen to the gawdawful local news breaks. They did a good job with the Gov's speech. Put in good clips (how could they not? There weren't any bad moments) but then they followed up with one of their reportersdemocrat activists quoting the Alaskan Wildlife Alliance (a reactionary, anti-hunting, leftist group) railing with nothing more than bile and no substance. Keep in mind, this was the reporter repeating their words, NOT a clip of the AWA saying it. KFI obviously couldn't just report the speech and let it stand. They had to get their Obama campaigning in.

They. Are. Terrified.

257 quickjustice  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:10:37pm

A bit more from [Link: www.theobamafile.com...]

"During this period, Obama worked at a Chicago housing project, Altgeld Gardens in 1985, where he refined his skills.

Here, Obama worked as an ethnic activist, helping the impoverished black community wring more money and services from the government. That government money was wrecking the morals of the housing-project residents seems obvious from his book, but Obama never comes out and says it. Numerous white moderates assume that a man of Obama’s superlative intelligence must be kidding when he espouses his cast-iron liberalism on race-related policies, but they don’t understand the emotional imperative of racial loyalty to him.

His mentor during this period was the veteran local agitator, Hazel Johnson, who disputes the version of events at Altgeld Gardens that Obama wrote of in his book and tells audiences at his political gatherings."

258 steve  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:10:39pm

My retort to them:

Get over it! She was refering to Obama’s work as a community organizer not everyone as a whole. The way you all are acting I can bet this website is paid for by Barry or some one in his employ.

259 Peter Verkooijen  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:13:09pm

re: #245 Outrider

Reading some of these comments I can see why it was difficult to find volunteers to make the community a nicer place to live by doing such jobs as Adopt A Highway, library reader, and escort for elderly.

It seems these jobs are only for liberals, parasites, or ticks? Who knew?

A community organizer is not the same as a volunteer. You're obfuscating the issue.

Who pays you? What are the pre-requsites for your job? Who measures your job performance, and against what?

260 quickjustice  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:15:10pm

re: #259 Peter Verkooijen

Some answers from [Link: www.theobamafile.com...]

"The Chicago Period began in 1985, when some white leftists were looking for someone who could recruit in a black neighborhood in the south side of Chicago and Obama answered a help-wanted ad for a position as a community organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago. The "Project" was funded by Bill Ayers' Woods Fund.

Obama was 24 years old, unmarried, and according to his memoir, searching for a genuine African-American community.

Both the CCRC and the DCP were built on the Alinsky model of community agitation, wherein paid organizers learned how to "rub raw the sores of discontent," in Alinsky's words.

Alinsky viewed as supremely important the role of the organizer, or master manipulator, whose guidance was responsible for setting the agendas of the People’s Organization. "The organizer," Alinsky wrote, "is in a true sense reaching for the highest level for which man can reach -- to create, to be a 'great creator,' to play God.""

261 GreenBear  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:16:55pm

re: #258 steve

My retort to them:

Get over it! She was refering to Obama’s work as a community organizer not everyone as a whole. The way you all are acting I can bet this website is paid for by Barry or some one in his employ.

Sure Barry was "organizing" Tony Rezko with lunches downtown so that later Tony would help him get a sweet deal on the Obama Mansion, in between commiting felonies, of course (a slimebag has to have his priorities straight.)

262 nikis-knight  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:16:59pm

re: #245 Outrider

Reading some of these comments I can see why it was difficult to find volunteers to make the community a nicer place to live by doing such jobs as Adopt A Highway, library reader, and escort for elderly.

It seems these jobs are only for liberals, parasites, or ticks? Who knew?

The reason we are against community organizer is it is a condescending, not to mention resume-padding, way of saying volunteer work. It also reeks of typical liberal elite condescension in thinking our communities are hopeless unless some enlightened snob comes along and helps us.

If Obama just read kids books and hung out with old folks, that's great! But a) that's not presidential qualifications, and b) something tells me that's not what he did.

263 CodePirate  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:17:15pm

Would anyone notice if a community organizer were to simply pack up and move away? If a mayor did that without any notice it would be all over the news.

264 pegcity  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:17:49pm

re: #1 rawmuse

This is going to hurt their "walking around money".

did u watch the Wire too?

265 Florida Lady  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:21:10pm

Rush Limbaugh has the best description of a community organizer:

A Community Agitator.

Fits those like Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton to a T.

266 mfarmer1  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:23:56pm

re: #245 Outrider

Reading some of these comments I can see why it was difficult to find volunteers to make the community a nicer place to live by doing such jobs as Adopt A Highway, library reader, and escort for elderly.

It seems these jobs are only for liberals, parasites, or ticks? Who knew?

Those are volunteer part-time non-paying jobs and things which most good citizens do anyway in ADDITION to their regular jobs without making a big hullabaloo about it. Things such as Highway Adopters (small business owners), Library Readers (retired folks) and Elderly Escorts (Boy Scouts) are hardly career highlights on a resume for a presidential candidate.

267 Joan Not of Arc  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:24:59pm

re: #26 HelloDare

Jesus Christ actually did something. Meetings of cheap coffee and cookie crisps isn't the same as running a state- or being the savior of mankind.
Just saying.

268 GGMac  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:26:09pm

This one's too good to be on only one thread - a caller to Rush earlier said that from now on he'd referring to Palin as:

Sara'cuda, the Arctic Fox.....!

Woot!

269 fishbob  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:27:46pm

re: #256 kynna

Ya know the thing about listening to Rush is that you have to listen to the gawdawful local news breaks. They did a good job with the Gov's speech. Put in good clips (how could they not? There weren't any bad moments) but then they followed up with one of their reportersdemocrat activists quoting the Alaskan Wildlife Alliance (a reactionary, anti-hunting, leftist group) railing with nothing more than bile and no substance. Keep in mind, this was the reporter repeating their words, NOT a clip of the AWA saying it. KFI obviously couldn't just report the speech and let it stand. They had to get their Obama campaigning in.

They. Are. Terrified.

I'm glad someone else noticed this. Where I am CBS news gets that break slot. Everything in the world, and I mean EVERYTHING, is gloom and doom and not the first mention of Sarah Palin......not one time! Dern tootin' they're terrified.

270 hazzyday  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:28:14pm

Obama does have a lot of experience beyond disorganizing poor people.

Some 20 years at the foot of a hate filled racist preacher
Some 20 years inclining head non towards an unrepentant SDS weatherman.
Two biographies empty of accomplishments
100 present votes.
He has numerous cronies, few friends.
He is experienced at hijacking elections and giving his opponents no voice
He is experienced at completely shutting out of the voices of women in his manipulation of the cacaus system and the roll call system at the convention.

The present votes I find odd. I am starting to think Obama is all machine generated from the beginning of his harvard life. He voted present on the advice of his cronies with the idea it would pave his way to higher office. I bet George Soros has several types of these people he indirectly supports. Venture Capitalism at work in the political arena. That means we don't really know who Obama is. That will only come out after he is able to reach power. Better to test him a few more years in the Senate.

271 J'accuzzi  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:30:26pm

So what's their plan B? Dig up Saul Alinsky and beat her with his femurs?

272 MJBrutus  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:31:25pm

re: #260 quickjustice

But Bill Ayers was just some English prof in the hood. I have it on the very good authority of BHO himself that he hardly knew Ayers, let alone worked with him on this or on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge board of directors or the Woods Hole board.

And the reason he liked Rev Wright's church was because Uncle Jeremiah was all sweetness, light and charity, not so that he could find some local mob of pre-made anger to exploit to do his bidding.

I don't know where you get your information mister.

273 WinterCat  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:31:56pm

re: #270 hazzyday

That's a bingo!

I have always thought the present vote was because he wanted to avoid taking a position that could be used against him in his run for POTUS.

274 hazzyday  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:32:41pm

Obama is good at fixing elections via a machine process. State GoP parties need to put some oversight onto Acorn activists. There is a lot of corruption in Acorn work. People who like Rev. Wright and Obama just don't respect the country and it's process.

275 MJBrutus  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:34:45pm

re: #270 hazzyday

Boy, how right you are, and it should scare the living crap out of every loyal American. It certainly does explain how this enigmatic, mysterious cipher of a man could get where he is today.

276 Jimash  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:41:19pm

re: #272 MJBrutus

I am flabbergasted that William Ayers is considered "respectable" and
"influential".
What are they thinking in Chicago? This guy is a Barely-got-off-on-a-technicality FELON with a trail of dead bodies and broken lives to his credit.

Makes me much madder than the mad reverend.

277 GreenBear  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:50:29pm

re: #270 hazzyday

I bet George Soros has several types of these people he indirectly supports. Venture Capitalism at work in the political arena. That means we don't really know who Obama is. That will only come out after he is able to reach power. Better to test him a few more years in the Senate.

Maybe BHO is like his own little "sleeper cell'

You know, like one of those deep, deep agents that don't even know that they're programmed to execute a plan at a given code word command.

Somebody said "Afghanistan Bananastan" too early by mistake. He was really supposed to run now but after a few more years and the "Soros Machine" had chewed up or disappeared all these "inconvenient" connections.

Man, this conspiracy crap is addictive! :) Pass the tinfoil...

278 hazzyday  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:53:48pm

re: #203 mean Gene

I was a community organizer for years. I was a home owner and landlord in a low income crime, infested neighborhood. I never carried a gun, I would have shot someone probably. I worked with homeless people, drug dealers/users, mentally ill, poor students, sex offenders, and people who just couldn't add one and one.

Learned a lot. Lost a lot of money. The police were the best no nonsense resource I had. Local government was an obstacle and a money drain every step of the way. No love for the small business owner there.

I would meet "official community organizers" I met very few who understood housing issues or mental illness. There was one group who monthly sent operatives to my(and other landlords) doorstep to see if I discriminated against people. They would show up unannounced, without an appointment and try and rent from me. I never really understood their purpose. They never accomplished anything.

I gave people a chance for some stability and to make a better life. The community organizers I met where looking for poverty and misery and someway to exploit it to make money or political capital for themselves.

The most effective community organizers where the gang drug dealers carrying weapons. They deterred more than one of my tenants into a dark,addicted, crime ridden world. Then when I went to court to evict them after they put a lot of fear into my other tenants, there was the community organizer there paid by the government as their free legal service.

I only took the worst ones to court. They would usually end up getting away scott free with the help of their community organizer. All that meant is that I had to pass on costs to the tenants that were actually law abiding and never caused any problems.

A drug offense should be an instant eviction in any city in the US.

279 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:55:29pm

re: #113 jorline

Final-Night Protest Threat

Break out the rubber bullets and nightsticks.

Here's what the SPPD has been using.

280 MJBrutus  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:57:31pm

re: #277 GreenBear

Perhaps what has some of us thinking along conspiratorial lines is that, taken at face value, the story of BHO's ascension is so bizarre. That combined with several obvious lies has us scratching our heads about what the real story of BHO is about. We are shown this undistinguished man, who arrives in Chi-town (a place that is legendary for corrupt politics) and is handed one opportunity after another by this creepiest of characters, the terrorist Bill Ayers. He makes one insincere speech about racial harmony at the '04 convention, votes present a few times in the Senate (after "winning" an election against a no-show) and we're all supposed to think that this is normal.

I'm sorry, but while I am pretty cautious about reaching for the tin foil, it is clear that all is not what it seems here.

281 sparrowlake  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 12:58:16pm

A community organizer is a generic term for a low-level political recruiter. Hardly a prior occupation I would want to put in my resume for a CEO position - unless, of course I had nothing else to put in there.
Palin was being far too kind when she acknowledged any similarity whatsoever between being a community organizer and a mayor.

282 Adina in Judea  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:00:14pm

Obama has written two autobiographies (one per decade) since he turned 30.

How many autobiographies does he intend to write? Does anyone know? He wasn't even famous when he wrote his first two autobiographies.

Perhaps his newly found fame will inspire him to write several autobiographies per year now that he has a fan base.

Barack Obama: Quarterly Report On My Astonishing Life - April 2009

283 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:01:02pm
community organizers work with families who are struggling–because of low wages, poor health coverage, unaffordable housing, and other community problems–

tells people they are oppressed, underserved, and discontent

so that collectively,

they can hold rallies and marches

they can fix those problems

when has chanting "No Justice No Peace" fixed low wages, poor health coverage, unaffordable housing, and other community problems?

and make government respond to their day-to-day concerns.

shake down the government, Jackson, Sharpton & ACORN-style

Organizers knock on doors, attend community meetings, visit churches and synagogues and mosques, and work with unions and civic groups and block associations to help ordinary people build power and counter the influence of self-interested insiders and highly paid lobbyists at all levels of government.

making a good living lining their own pockets along the way

284 Perf  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:02:25pm
285 BigDog  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:03:59pm

My unemployed slacker nephew has declared his occupation to be a "community organizer" now.

Up until Barry the Messiah I had not heard the title used as being an actual job, as opposed to something someone might do on the side.

286 right_wing2  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:04:48pm

re: #284 Perf

We need to pull out of Chicago and redeploy to other cities where our citizen's lives won't be at risk

287 hazzyday  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:04:52pm

re: #277 GreenBear

Power has an odd effect on most people. Many think they can handle it only to be corrupted by it once achieved. It takes a wise leader to wield power effectively.

I have seen more than one good person take the wrong turn when hitting a new stride of power. One of the telling clues is that they start talking as if all a sudden they can see better from their new plateau of light. They have improved super vision. What comes next is that they start interpreting their power through their personal ego. They make bad decisions, can't take the flak, circle wagons, close off discussion and dissent. They they get lost and lose all their support. They have nothing solid to grab onto anymore.

I think Obama's dis of Hilary fits this mode of existence perfectly. Obama will make huge mistakes in office if elected President. I expect his weakness to bring us war as he just votes "present".

288 hazzyday  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:05:33pm

re: #285 BigDog

My unemployed slacker nephew has declared his occupation to be a "community organizer" now.

Up until Barry the Messiah I had not heard the title used as being an actual job, as opposed to something someone might do on the side.

In my neighborhood that means drug dealer.

289 HBob  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:06:02pm

So from what I've read it looks like a community organizer is an a**hole who walks around the neighborhood with a local phone book and the jobs classifieds section of the newspaper.

Obama found a job where he could get paid as he campaigned door to door for a future run for office. Good for him. Bad for the neighborhood.

I'm still not impressed.

Next!

290 protestshooter  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:08:49pm

I got some really insane emails from the Obama campain in the last 24 hours (I'm on both parties mailing lists) and they really pounded the community organizer thing. It made me so upset that I went over to the McCain/Palin website and made a contibution - the second of my life. The first was a couple of days ago after Palin's Ohio speech.

(The money goes different places because one was pre-cutoff and the other was post-cutoff ).

291 HBob  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:10:03pm

re: #285 BigDog

My unemployed slacker nephew has declared his occupation to be a "community organizer" now.

Up until Barry the Messiah I had not heard the title used as being an actual job, as opposed to something someone might do on the side.

Tell him to come on over and mow my lawn.

292 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:12:09pm

Obama explains community organizing

This is an article in a journal published in 1990.
After Alinsky: Community Organizing in Illinois
(c) 1990 Illinois Issues, University of Illinois at Springfield

In theory, community organizing provides a way to merge various strategies for neighborhood empowerment. Organizing begins with the premise that (1) the problems facing inner-city communities do not result from a lack of effective solutions, but from a lack of power to implement these solutions; (2) that the only way for communities to build long-term power is by organizing people and money around a common vision; and (3) that a viable organization can only be achieved if a broadly based indigenous leadership — and not one or two charismatic leaders — can knit together the diverse interests of their local institutions.

This means bringing together churches, block clubs, parent groups and any other institutions in a given community to pay dues, hire organizers, conduct research, develop leadership, hold rallies and education cam­paigns, and begin drawing up plans on a whole range of issues — jobs, education, crime, etc. Once such a vehicle is formed, it holds the power to make politicians, agencies and corporations more responsive to commu­nity needs. Equally important, it enables people to break their crippling isolation from each other, to reshape their mutual values and expectations and rediscover the possibilities of acting collaboratively — the prerequi­sites of any successful self-help initiative.

293 HBob  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:12:10pm

re: #284 Perf

OT - Civil war breaking out in Chicago.


/sarc

Maybe they just got "organized".

294 so.cal.swede  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:19:24pm

re: #195 Celtic Templar

I don't agree. I'm voting for McCain because he is white? Are you kidding me? That is not racist? Colorist?

Well, on second thought maybe I expressed myself incorrectly.

My point was that "voting according to skin color is stupid" because often the person you're voting for shares few or none of your ideals.

I agree that voting based on skin color is racist, because you just made the argument "the person of X color skin must be better".

I should have said "Voting for a persons skin color isn't just racist, it's also very stupid".

sorry

295 shmuli  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:19:55pm

Well, I posted twice on their site, just asking who pays community organizers's salaries. They would not post my note. One post at this location says that some are volunteers. Fine, I believe that and wish any volunteer the best.
But how about the others? There are posts here asking how they get paid. Does anyone know if there are city/county/state/federal monies for these types of activities? Perhaps they are funded by wealthy foundations?

It wold be nice to know if this kind of "activity" is funded locally (in which case that is the decision of locally elected officials - Chicago lines up nicely with its machine and boss system) or if any funds come from other taxpayer resources?

296 GreenBear  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:22:48pm

#280 MJBrutus
"I'm sorry, but while I am pretty cautious about reaching for the tin foil, it is clear that all is not what it seems here."

re: #287 hazzyday

I think Obama's dis of Hilary fits this mode of existence perfectly. Obama will make huge mistakes in office if elected President. I expect his weakness to bring us war as he just votes "present".

I know where you're all coming from. I really wasn't making light of the situation because I believe the threat is real enough.

I was thinking that it is the unstable personality in Barry that has him teetering on the edge and may be what Hilary was waiting to happen so she could step in. She just didn't push hard enough.

History, unfortunately, is filled with people like Bill Ayers and George Soros who seek out automatons that they can use for their own purposes and leave the hollowed out carcasses for otheres to clean up.

But we can't dwell on that, can we?

297 Perf  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:25:07pm

So what the are saying is:

A community organizer is a job created primarily for people with worthless "minority studies" degrees. (Which in turn were degrees created for quota people who couldn't handle conventional courses.)

It's based on the theory that handing out money will reduce crime and be less expensive overall than enforcing the law.

/sarc

298 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:28:35pm

re: #225 vagabond trader

Ask Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson about community organizing, AKA extortion. Come to think of it, the people "organized" in those shoddy housing projects the Obama helped his pal Rezko to scam deserve an apology.

iirc, those places are unlivable. so poorly built on the cheap.
abandoned now.

299 mulgamutt  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:29:18pm

I tried two responses to their little blog, and they were both deleted.

The second post was in response to another comment "they'll be attacking social workers next." And I said I would, based on my experience. I have two special-needs kids (silly term), one an Aspie (Asperger's Syndrome). We've struggled to find help. I was referred by a hospital to the county (Orange County, CA) mental health agency. A social worker admitted us, a process that took 15 minutes. I asked if my son could see a psychologist. He replied "I determine if he sees a psychologist." In other words, no, unless it's an emergency. "This IS an emergency," I replied.

Two weeks later we got a $315 bill from the agency for the 15 minute consultation. Plus, we were told that we'd have to pay $6,695 (based on my $4000/month income) before any services would begin. I said, no, not a chance. I still had to fight the $315.

So I posted this to that silly site. It was gone within five minutes.

Free speech and open discourse doesn't exist on the left.

300 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:31:28pm

re: #299 mulgamutt

Free speech and open discourse doesn't exist on the left.

You know the rule: free speech for me but none for thee.

301 WinterCat  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:34:53pm

re: #295 shmuli

I think this is an extremely important point and I think that, as taxpayers, we have a right to know the answers.

I am of the strong belief that using the community organizer title while getting taxpayer money should require also that NO political activism is permitted. If the organization or members of the organization are caught pushing a political agenda then the organization should lose tax money, tax exempt status and all public privilages generally afforded to these groups. We need to grow a spine and challenge this scam that is being worked right under our noses.

I was in a 501c once and I recall that there were restrictions regarding our involvement in politics and maintaining our tax exempt status.

302 Sheerq  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:37:24pm

Before I fell asleep last night after watching the convention, the only thing nagging at me were the comments about Obama's work as a community organizer.

With political corruption in major cities and abysmal schools, adults who grew up in the city and the failed schools have no clue as to how to fix their lives when problems arise, and community organizers actually can do some good, important work.

I think it is a bit of a cheap shot to take at Obama - not as bad as the ones taken at Palin, but aren't we supposed to be better than the other guys?

303 bj  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:48:08pm
Though many people are unfamiliar with community organizing, the job is both straightforward and vital: community organizers work with families who are struggling–because of low wages, poor health coverage, unaffordable housing, and other community problems–so that collectively, they can fix those problems and make government respond to their day-to-day concerns. Organizers knock on doors, attend community meetings, visit churches and synagogues and mosques, and work with unions and civic groups and block associations to help ordinary people build power and counter the influence of self-interested insiders and highly paid lobbyists at all levels of government.

So where were these people during Katrina and, just the last few days, during Gustav? Lots of people taking shelter in other states, motels full, people having to eat, buy clothing, etc. I haven't seen any about or even heard of them/their job description during hard times.

304 WinterCat  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:50:48pm

re: #302 Sheerq

The failed schools are because the schools have been taken over by the democratic machine which promotes mediocrity over accomplishment. Also, the democrat mentality that insists that a handout instead of a hand-up is the only way help people just contributes to the cycle of failure. That is the reason that people have no clue how to fix their lives.

It is great to help people. I am all for that. I am all for teaching them how to vote, how to get to school, how to clean up their neighborhood, and how to get a job. But I am emphatically against using community organizers agitators to teach people that America is evil and should be damned. And I am way against using the same to teach them for whom to vote. That is political activism and I don't want to pay for it with my tax dollars.

305 Sheerq  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 1:57:23pm

WinterCat, you said nothing I disagree with.

306 norar  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:10:14pm

Community organizers? Who are this guys? What they organize community for?

People behind this site are professional victims, not community workers.

307 newton  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:16:29pm

re: #50 maddogg

"Community organizer" is only an euphemism for Communist party hacks or disciples.

euphemism
Pronunciation: ˈyü-fə-ˌmi-zəm
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek euphēmismos, from euphēmos auspicious, sounding good, from eu- + phēmē speech, from phanai to speak — more at ban
Date: circa 1681

: the substitution of an agreeable or inoffensive expression for one that may offend or suggest something unpleasant; also : the expression so substituted

If Barack Obama had really "organized a community", he would have founded a new town, away from the blight of Chicago's poor neighborhoods. And he would have been its first major.
But he never did that!

Besides, Jesus was NOT a "community organizer". Last time I checked in the New Testament, he was an itinerant preacher, - a missionary, to be exact. Those who came to believe in Him did good things in their community, not because He organized them, but because He gave them the Spirit of God's goodness to do it. Nothing else.

Give it to those "community organizers". They have zero knowledge of the New Testament.

308 Noam Chumpski  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:18:54pm

Victim-Mongers feeling Victimized?

/head explodes

309 calcajun  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:20:58pm

Well, depends on you meaning of community organizer. In days of old, they were politely referred to as a"gadfly". I suppose the definition is broader these days, and somewhat softer--like calling a garbage man a "sanitation engineer" . Leaders of lynch mobs and riots could be considered as "community organizers" (Al Sharpton springs to mind) They are truly unaccountable when their minions run amok. Which kind of sums up BHO; he can stir up a crowd, but can he really do anything else?

310 newton  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:23:33pm

re: #309 calcajun

There you have it!

311 Proud to be American  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:34:25pm

re: #47 right_wing2

According to Wiki:
"Community organizing is a process by which people are brought together to act in common self-interest. While organizing describes any activity involving people interacting with one another in a formal manner, much community organizing is in the pursuit of a common agenda. Many groups seek populist goals and the ideal of participatory democracy. Community organizers create social movements by building a base of concerned people, mobilizing these community members to act, and developing leadership from and relationships among the people involved."

In other words, if you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit.

312 Rogue198  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:45:29pm

I'll admit I didn't read all 300+ comments in here...but did anyone note that (1) those responses to that page are moderated and (2) any that disagree with the outrage are deleted.

I know (2) because mine is no where to be found.

313 LesLein  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:48:46pm

This link is to a photo gallery showing the results of Obama's organizing. As Doug Ross puts it, there's a strong resemblance to Beirut.

[Link: directorblue.blogspot.com...]

314 code red 21  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:56:08pm

I haven't read everyone's postings here so I don't know if this question has been asked. Exactly where do you apply to get a job as a community organizer? Just curious.

315 mattm  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:59:53pm

I would love to see a "apology" similar to this:

Dear Pissed Off Community Organizers,

Sorry to offend you but I have actual work do get back to.

SP

316 Wendya  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:01:46pm

re: #71 Ringo the Gringo

The United Steel Workers are not happy with Palin introducing her husband as a Union member...

USW Statement on John McCain's VP Choice - LINK : [Link: www.usw.org...]

Now that the Union leadership has insulted a dues paying member, perhaps it's time for them to refund every single cent they've taken from his paychecks.

317 capitalist piglet  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:02:32pm

Please, somebody...what the hell is a "community organizer"?

318 wily  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:02:50pm
Jesus Christ was a community organizer. Pontius Pilate was a governor.

I love the irony. I forget--was it Jesus or Pontius who appeared between two Roman columns when he gave his speeches? And which of them distributed more fish?

319 capitalist piglet  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:05:02pm

re: #316 Wendya

Now that the Union leadership has insulted a dues paying member, perhaps it's time for them to refund every single cent they've taken from his paychecks.

I hope he doesn't start getting harassed at work. Seriously. These people are unhinged, and union members can be real bastards.

320 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:12:37pm
321 Gretchen  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:27:53pm

Like she had the community organizer vote locked up.

Let's look at where community organizers feel they are necessary - mostly inner cities controlled for years by inept corrupt Democrat leadership places like Chicago. To liberals results don't matter - just intentions.

322 TheQuay  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:29:57pm

Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it already

323 DeliLama  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:44:46pm

Here's a comment I left on their website:

You might want to consider changing the text of what is community organizing. Palin’s negative remark about it was that it has no clear responsibilities relative to the mayor of a town of 9,000. It may be noble, it may be doing great work, but to answer the criticism, you really should focus on what an individual community organizer is held accountable for doing. How is their performance measured and who evaluates their performance? What happens to a community organizer who performs badly? How do you find out if a community organizer from several years ago was good?

Taking this approach, especially with a lot of particulars and examples, would be an effective answer to those who question the work.


It's currently awaiting moderation.

324 calcajun  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:55:31pm

re: #317 capitalist piglet

Please, somebody...what the hell is a "community organizer"?

In ages past, it was the leader of a lunch, er...lynch mob.

Here is an example of a dark ages community organizer:

325 bkgodfrey  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:59:01pm

re: #218 WinterCat

you are not allowed to ask where their salaries come from, that is hateful and inconsiderate to the communities in which the serve

326 bkgodfrey  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:59:21pm

so this is a real website? i thought it was a joke at first.

327 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:02:45pm

What a bunch of little narcissists like their fellow traveler 0bama- she obviously wasn't talking about them- it was a clear shot at 0bama, but they have to personalize it and make it about them. Get over yourselves already.

328 hippieforlife  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:06:24pm

I just saw this little gem on Kos:

"Jesus was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor."

Yep, just that. The big K himself thought that it was so wonderful that he wrote a whole diary on it. You can imagine the comments.

I am so glad that the dems are not attacking Sarah Palin. Oh, that's right, Kos is just some blog idiot. Nothing to see there.

The fact that anyone could even think of saying something that sick and then actually write it down & others of the ilk cheer them on! These people would have loved the French revolution.

(I hope this isn't a repeat post. I was just so upset I had to get it out. Sorry if it is:)

329 J'accuzzi  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:42:31pm

I thought Stalin was a community organizer.He sure was organized and took care of a vast number of communities.

330 ErnieG  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 5:09:10pm

re: #317 capitalist piglet

Please, somebody...what the hell is a "community organizer"?

I have a friend who lived in Havana in the 70s. She tells of neighborhood "Guardians of the Revolution." You had to be damned careful what you said around them. I understand that the Stasi had these in East Germany, too.

331 Dasher  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 5:26:39pm

re: #330 ErnieG

I have a friend who lived in Havana in the 70s. She tells of neighborhood "Guardians of the Revolution." You had to be damned careful what you said around them. I understand that the Stasi had these in East Germany, too.

I think the words "agitator" or "trouble maker" comes to mind

332 Dasher  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 5:31:59pm

re: #317 capitalist piglet

Please, somebody...what the hell is a "community organizer"?

The words "agitator" or trouble maker come to mind.

Sorry I somehow quoted the wrong msg.

333 Dasher  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 5:36:14pm

I think Obama did his "community organizer" work with ACORN. An outfit that should probably be brought up on RICO charges. They are real big in falsifying voter registrations.

334 bubbasbbq  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 5:56:58pm

My god, what a bunch of nitwits! is this for real or is somebody trying for satire?
They actually believe that drivel? Why don't they just shut up, and go back organizing midnight basketball for little delinquents

335 bubbasbbq  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 6:00:50pm

Why do these Kos morons always try to hide behind the one man they loathe the most, Jesus Christ? by the way, Christ was NOT a community organizer, he was a JEW and an EVANGELICAL! I do not recall a single game of midnight basketball or voter fraud he was involved in.

336 uptight  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 7:05:10pm

Maybe a US Lizard can correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't "community organizer" just a polite way of saying "vote rigger"?

337 restitutor orbis  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 7:16:41pm

The plight of the community organizer reminds me of an exchange from the Mel Brooks classic History of the World Part I

"Whats your occupation?"

"Stand-up philosopher."

"Oh...A bullshit artist!"

338 Timbre  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 9:08:36pm

Yeah, but their stupid signs, "Save Our Homes" really means they demand that tax dollars (other people's money) be used to bail them out. It's "our community" but they want successful people to pay the way. Typical, hypocritical liberals.

339 gennyk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 10:00:09pm

re: #243 I_Invented_Al_Gore

Sounds like the PTA to me. What does a community organizer's daily schedule look like? Sit in meetings and make folks feel like someone important is listening?

I used to be a Community Organizer - until I figured out it was not quite a noble as I thought it was. Here is the process:
1) Identify a group in the Community who is in 'need'
2) Identify benefactors who want to help this group in 'need' - philanthropists, foundations, the government
3)Devise a Plan of how to address this 'need'
4) Write a grant for the money to implement the plan: specifying how the money will be spent and the results you expect to achieve
5) Get the check in the account
6) Have meetings, pretend to implement the plan, spending a little money on it, but make sure that you and your friends get paid
7) Write a report to the funding source about what a good job you did in addressing the needs and implementing the plan
8) Repeat as necessary
This process guarantees that the need is never met, but you are paid.
Real Community Organizers are 'volunteers' who actually DO something.

I quit, it was disgusting. I started my own business to make money, I volunteer and make a difference.

340 DJM  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 5:02:21am

I read the article because I had no idea what a 'community organizer' did.

They 'organize a community' and 'clean up messes'.

Yeah, that clears it up.

341 Farang Kheemao  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 9:13:39am

re: #21 NoSubmission

PHOTO: Gratuitous Palin on a Harley shot.

Thanks for the great photo. Being a gnarly old biker in good standing, I printed this photo out and it is now hanging on my office wall.


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