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Google Will Change Creepy Browser License

Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 2:38:44 pm PDT

Reacting to criticism, Google is going to change the EULA for their new browser, Chrome.

Google’s new web browser Chrome is fast, shiny, and requires users to sign their very lives over to Google before they can use it. Today’s Internet outrage du jour has been Chrome’s EULA, which appears to give Google a nonexclusive right to display and distribute every bit of content transmitted through the browser. Now, Google tells Ars that it’s a mistake, the EULA will be corrected, and the correction will be retroactive. ...

Here at Ars, our first thought on reading the EULA was that it looks a whole lot like the EULAs Google uses for other services, with the “content license” provision being an obvious example of this. In fact, that’s basically what it was.

Google’s Rebecca Ward, Senior Product Counsel for Google Chrome, now tells Ars Technica that the company tries to reuse these licenses as much as possible, “in order to keep things simple for our users.” Ward admits that sometimes “this means that the legal terms for a specific product may include terms that don’t apply well to the use of that product” and says that Google is “working quickly to remove language from Section 11 of the current Google Chrome terms of service. This change will apply retroactively to all users who have downloaded Google Chrome.”

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1 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:39:59pm

Wait...Google is evil?

2 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:40:39pm

too late, not gonna use it ever

3 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:40:59pm

I still don't trust them.

4 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:42:30pm

I'm never gonna use it again. I tried it and frankly I don't see what the point is. Firefox is better, and for me IE7 (w/ NetCaptor) works just fine. Who needs Goooooooooogle?

5 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:42:32pm

I'd as soon eat aGoogla.

6 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:42:48pm

All my posts are belong to me!

7 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:43:09pm

I block google cookies, google related cookies, I block all of Google's javascripts, (They have several different ones that track you) I block all google's ads. Stay away from Google.

Unfortunately one of my bosses loves Google mail and google for your domain tools.

8 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:44:29pm

re: #7 DoubleU

Give it up to the folks that Al Gore built the internet for.

9 Racer X  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:44:57pm

They unveiled it during the olympics.

It only received a chrome medal.

10 The Other Les  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:45:14pm

SOMETHING POSITIVE:

"There are countless religions in this world that are happy to judge you. Why do you need one on your computer?"

"Simple. This god actually gets periodic updates."

11 reggie  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:45:22pm
Senior Product Counsel for Google Chrome, now tells Ars Technica that the company tries to reuse these licenses as much as possible

Right. That's why she makes the big bucks.

12 Boot Hill  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:45:49pm

All your content are belong to us.

does sound creepy...

hello sir, we're here about your content
wha?! Who the hell are you?
We're Google, Section 11
DUM DUMM DUMMMM

13 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:46:24pm

re: #8 Cap'n DOC

Algore is on the board of director's of Google. (And apple)

14 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:47:05pm
"This god actually gets periodic updates."

I thought that was a table.

15 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:48:18pm

re: #13 DoubleU

Really?

Who knew?

/

16 jcm  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:48:43pm
17 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:48:44pm

I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.

18 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:49:04pm

Massively OT:

CNN.com's entire "headline" block as of now is devoted to race-baiting.

Sarah Palin really has the rabbits diving for their favorite holes.

19 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:49:31pm

Meh, I am content with Firefox. Google can keep their browser.

20 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:50:10pm

Chrome actually has some very nice features. And gogle can get pretty much anything you have on the web regardless of whether you use their products or not. So I can expect Chrome to run in Mac when? Sometimes it sucks to be the one with the Lamborgini.

21 pegcity  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:50:59pm

is supporting commie china's repression a mistake also, how about not honoring americas war dead, or nazi sympathizing child authors.

22 The Other Les  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:52:25pm

re: #14 Cap'n DOC

I thought that was a table.

Looks like a laptop there.

23 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:53:43pm

re: #22 The Other Les

Elemental, Dr. Watson.

/Obscure techie reference.

24 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:53:56pm

The gold goes to annefrance: -344.

25 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:55:29pm

re: #21 pegcity

is supporting commie china's repression a mistake also, how about not honoring americas war dead, or nazi sympathizing child authors.

Well, the finally did get around to honoring Veteran's Day last year with this image. Still won't make me forget their lame excuse for years prior, though. Let's see what they do this year.

26 gop_patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:55:34pm

re: #7 DoubleU

how do you block a google javascript?

27 Racer X  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:56:10pm

When can we discontinue giving af attention?

28 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:57:22pm

re: #26 gop_patriot

how do you block a google javascript?

Not trying to step over DoubleU, but if you have Firefox you can use the AdBlocker and NoScript add-ons. Great stuff.

29 The Other Les  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:57:22pm

Obama bundler stormed stage last night as Palin spoke

Who was that protester who stormed the stage last night? A mega-bundler for Barack Obama from the group Code Pink. Jim Hoft, proprietor of Gateway Pundit who is in St. Paul covering the convention, has the scoop. The protester who stormed the stage during Sarah Palin's speech last night was a mega-bundler for the Obama campaign who hosted a Hollywood fundraiser for him early in 2007. For those wo have questions regarding the source of support for Obama, Code Pink also has a history of anti-Israel activism.

30 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:57:50pm

re: #27 Racer X

Not long. When she surrenders?

31 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:57:51pm

re: #24 MandyManners

The gold goes to annefrance: -344.

Gold? More like some cheap alloy.

32 straitcircle  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:58:41pm

I post through Google Crome, you're an idot. They own it now.

33 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:58:43pm

re: #26 gop_patriot

FireFox has a NoScript addon

34 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 2:59:53pm

re: #29 The Other Les

It was a code pinker, Jodi Evans and Bengerman (whatever her name is)

35 gop_patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:00:30pm

re: #28 Slumbering Behemoth

Not trying to step over DoubleU, but if you have Firefox you can use the AdBlocker and NoScript add-ons. Great stuff.

Cool, thanks. I have AdBlocker but don't think I have the NoScript.

/how are you doing anyway? :)

36 gop_patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:00:59pm

re: #33 DoubleU

FireFox has a NoScript addon

Thanks! I guess that's the one I need to download now. :)

38 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:01:31pm

-347
Good grief.

39 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:01:59pm
40 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:02:10pm

re: #35 gop_patriot

The only thing about noscript is the guy is an anti-Bush guy, his sample blocking page is/was George Bush's website.

41 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:02:14pm
43 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:03:17pm

re: #31 Sharmuta

Gold? More like some cheap alloy.

*rimshot*

When I left this morning, it was around -150. Lotsa' pissed-off Lizards.

44 jcm  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:03:20pm
45 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:03:27pm

Piper & Trig are on YouTube.

46 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:03:54pm

re: #36 gop_patriot

Download it and carefully go through the options, some google stuff is listed as trusted. Also take note of some of the warning scripts that pop up. Google has a script on NUMEROUS pages.

47 Celtic Templar  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:04:36pm

re: #42 WrathofG-d

Carls In Jerusalem Reports That When Attempting To Visit His Site On Crome Users Get A "May Harm Your Computer" Error.

I wonder what LGF gets!

Works o.k., but scrolling is really buggy ... sticking with FF3

48 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:05:01pm
Jonh Ireland and Kellogg, code 3.

/hitting the fan

49 Bubblehead II  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:05:14pm

re: #24 MandyManners

What was the previous record? Has Charles answered that question and I missed it?

50 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:06:13pm

re: #42 WrathofG-d

Carls In Jerusalem Reports That When Attempting To Visit His Site On Crome Users Get A "May Harm Your Computer" Error.

I wonder what LGF gets!

If this is "editorializing" by the Google staff, trying to block legitimate websites, then that is a huge problem.

51 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:06:37pm
Permit has expired, they need to move north and west.

/John Ireland Bridge equals anarchy people's Waterloo

52 bryantms  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:06:47pm

I am still in shock over Palin's speech last night. That was awesome.

53 opnion  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:07:00pm

re: #34 DoubleU

It was a code pinker, Jodi Evans and Bengerman (whatever her name is)

Madea Benjamin?

54 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:08:08pm

re: #52 bryantms

I am still in shock over Palin's speech last night. That was awesome.

It was a home run!

55 Cartman  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:08:15pm

Ok...the language has been removed from the EULA. What about the tracking code?

56 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:08:18pm

I'm hearing that companies are considering blocking Chrome from being run on corporate PCs, due to concerns about data collection. This could seriously backfire on Google.

57 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:08:40pm

re: #49 Bubblehead II

What was the previous record? Has Charles answered that question and I missed it?

I don't know since I've been out all day. A Lizard on the DT said it was -150.

58 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:09:30pm
59 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:09:43pm

re: #53 opnion

dats da one, can't spell and couldn't remember the first name.

60 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:09:47pm

re: #54 DesertSage

It was a home run!

#363 annefrance 9/03/08 9:12:48 pm reply quote - + -351 ♥ !

61 wolfie  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:10:00pm

re: #45 wrenchwench

Piper & Trig are on YouTube.

Awwwwwwwwww! :)

62 The Other Les  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:10:07pm

Meanwhile in Anglistan.

[Link: www.associatedcontent.com...]

63 Bobibutu  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:10:08pm

re: #45 wrenchwench

Piper & Trig are on YouTube.

Well, it had to happen - priceless.

64 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:10:10pm

re: #34 DoubleU

It was a code pinker, Jodi Evans and Bengerman (whatever her name is)

Why didn't the ticket-takers/whatever have their photographs?

65 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:11:08pm

re: #35 gop_patriot

Cool, thanks. I have AdBlocker but don't think I have the NoScript.

NoScript is sweet, you can select which scripts you want to allow when you hit a web page. Makes load times a lot shorter, and will pretty much block any malicious scripts hiding on web pages.

/how are you doing anyway? :)

Tired and sore. How about you? (I'll have to check back later. Grandma needs a ride somewhere, and I can't say no to grandma)

66 The Other Les  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:11:19pm

I'm going out for my walk before JSM speaks tonight.

Bye.

67 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:11:22pm

re: #16 jcm

Google Chrome screen shot.

I'd be okay if it were this one.

68 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:11:27pm

re: #64 MandyManners

They covered themselves up, dressed nicer, and I think they may have bathed earlier in the week.

69 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:12:29pm

The anarchy people have the whole bridge over I94 and they're not dispersing. Won't be long before they start dropping things down on the freeway.

/tear gas time

70 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:12:34pm
71 Bubblehead II  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:12:56pm

re: #57 MandyManners

Thanks, it's at a -352 now.

72 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:13:15pm

re: #64 MandyManners

73 opnion  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:14:10pm

re: #59 DoubleU

dats da one, can't spell and couldn't remember the first name.


She is a ragi9ng loon. I heard her interviwed on a local radio station about a year ago. The host is a well known Conservative & it was about the Code Pink protest at the Matrine Corps recruiting station in Berkley.
He gotr her to say that the Marines really liked her & she sang the Marine Corps Hymn with them.
Ok, gets really weird, he got her to sing it on the radio. 800 dogs took their own lives.

74 rawmuse  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:14:20pm

“this means that the legal terms for a specific product may include terms that don’t apply well to the use of that product”

Can any of you lawyer types explain to me just what the heck that means? I only have 2 college degrees, so I can't figure that out.

75 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:14:38pm

re: #68 DoubleU

They covered themselves up, dressed nicer, and I think they may have bathed earlier in the week.

Once again I spat out my cigarette while reading LGF and had to stomp--bare-foot--on the embers. This is a tough place.

76 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:15:56pm

re: #71 Bubblehead II

Thanks, it's at a -352 now.

Awesome!

77 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:16:02pm
12 Alpha, left flank

/the police are more than up for this

78 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:16:23pm

re: #72 WrathofG-d

79 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:17:04pm

re: #69 Killian Bundy

The anarchy people have the whole bridge over I94 and they're not dispersing. Won't be long before they start dropping things down on the freeway.

/tear gas time

I think the US government should help them achieve their dream of living in anarchy. Therefore:

1) Tear gas and baton rounds to get their cooperation;

2) They're bundled into C-130s, manacled and blindfolded;

3) They're dumped onto the tarmac at Mogadishu airport. Welcome to anarchy, kids! Bye, now!


I am all about helping people achieve their dreams. It's just the kind of guy I am.

80 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:17:05pm

re: #70 MandyManners

Obama: Murder, Rape, & Genocide! Learn the story!


oh wait was I supposed to mention that he watched those things displayed on T.V. once, and not that he did them? Oh well, we didn't have the time to get into it....

81 gop_patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:17:37pm

re: #46 DoubleU

Thank you! I noticed some google stuff on the 'white' list and took it off. I hope I didn't screw something up. LOL :p I clicked the option that allows scripts to run on pages that are clicked through bookmarks. Going to play around with it for a bit.

82 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:17:49pm
arrest teams are ready, horses are moving out

/bad news for the anarchy people

83 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:17:57pm

re: #74 rawmuse

“this means that the legal terms for a specific product may include terms that don’t apply well to the use of that product”

Can any of you lawyer types explain to me just what the heck that means? I only have 2 college degrees, so I can't figure that out.

That don't apply "well" *what*? Did they out-source the writing to India or Pakistan?

84 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:18:22pm

re: #80 WrathofG-d

Obama: Murder, Rape, & Genocide! Learn the story!


oh wait was I supposed to mention that he watched those things displayed on T.V. once, and not that he did them? Oh well, we didn't have the time to get into it....

Anyway, you're just reporting the rumor, what's the big deal?

/

85 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:18:59pm

re: #80 WrathofG-d

Obama: Murder, Rape, & Genocide! Learn the story!


oh wait was I supposed to mention that he watched those things displayed on T.V. once, and not that he did them? Oh well, we didn't have the time to get into it....

I take it's been a wild day in the MSM and in the sane Internet.

Gotta' go. The Kid's taking me to dinner and then to the park!

86 Salem  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:19:05pm

I'd keep using Chrome but for the one bug where it puts itself on top of the Windows taskbar "hidden" mode. I can't figure why there's no way to correct this.

87 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:19:29pm

Later.

88 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:19:48pm

re: #83 MandyManners

That don't apply "well" *what*? Did they out-source the writing to India or Pakistan?

What they are saying is that they took a short cut when creating this contract and simply copy & pasted another prior "use agreement" for another product, and didn't read it to make sure it fit for this product.

89 HoosierHoops  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:19:53pm

re: #27 Racer X

When can we discontinue giving af attention?


Why? As i posted on the DT. It's a thing of beauty..
Who could write something so inane without getting deleted?
Can Af get to -400? The hall of shame has added a #1 player.

90 opnion  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:20:09pm

re: #70 MandyManners

Megyn rips a strip off of Bradley.

God, she is pretty when she's angry.

91 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:21:11pm

The police are pausing to give the anarchy people a final dispersal order and a bit of time to think about it.

/I'm guessing they want to eat gas

92 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:21:24pm
93 quickjustice  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:21:32pm

re: #74 rawmuse

"We drafted some BS legal boilerplate that completely overreaches and screws our customers by grabbing their IP for ourselves. Now they've figured it out, and are pissed at us. After receiving a tidal wave of e-mail protests and negative reviews on blogs that threaten to make it to the MSM, destroying our brand in the eyes of the public, it's time to spin this as an innocuous little boo-boo."

Does that help?

94 opnion  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:23:11pm

re: #80 WrathofG-d

Obama: Murder, Rape, & Genocide! Learn the story!

Well, if he watched it, it's just like doing it. Right?

95 Bubblehead II  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:23:12pm

re: #89 HoosierHoops

Can Af get to -400? The hall of shame has added a #1 player.

Depends on how many Lizards log on with a sock puppet to ding it down multiple times.

/guilty :-)

96 HBob  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:23:12pm

Darn. The new license agreement says I need to get a "mark" on my right hand or forehead. Should I do it?

97 Master Shake  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:23:40pm

I'm sure the Chinese will be happy with the change to the EULA that requires you to give Google your second-born child, rather than your first-born.

98 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:23:59pm

re: #74 rawmuse

“this means that the legal terms for a specific product may include terms that don’t apply well to the use of that product”

Can any of you lawyer types explain to me just what the heck that means? I only have 2 college degrees, so I can't figure that out.

I'm pretty sure it means that they try to use a basic "default" EULA, and minimize the tailoring they do to it when they apply it to a specific product. This can result in certain sections of the EULA being a poor fit for the product it is applied to. The thinking behind this is that you have a more uniform set of documentation across your product line, which will lower your costs since a tailored version of a default EULA costs less to produce than a new one from scratch. (That's the theory anyway.)

99 jcm  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:24:43pm

re: #96 HBob

Darn. The new license agreement says I need to get a "mark" on my right hand or forehead. Should I do it?

You laugh.... One night a guy on Coast-to-Coast managed to using Greek equate [Link: WWW=666....]

I can't find his findings on the internet........

100 Master Shake  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:25:26pm

Google: "And we would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!"

101 jcm  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:25:47pm

re: #99 jcm

You laugh.... One night a guy on Coast-to-Coast managed to using Greek equate [Link: WWW=666....]

I can't find his findings on the internet........

That's not a link, just text....

102 opnion  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:25:48pm

re: #92 ploome hineni

and as soon as she gets away from that dick, Hemmer, she is very smart


Ya know, I have thought that for some time. He gets snarky with her, I think because he knows that he is intellectually over matched

103 ErnieG  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:27:29pm

re: #88 WrathofG-d

What they are saying is that they took a short cut when creating this contract and simply copy & pasted another prior "use agreement" for another product, and didn't read it to make sure it fit for this product.

I thought you had to be incredibly, off-the-scale smart to work for Google. The quiz that they give applicants is legendary in its breadth and difficulty. It ought to have a question on it asking if the applicant thought it would be a good idea to read a proposed contract closely before offering it to a million people.

104 quickjustice  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:27:48pm

re: #98 CyanSnowHawk

"I own everything you fools input" isn't properly "tailored". Hmmm.

In the old days, we called this overreaching and greed, not "bad tailoring". The folks in Legal write it, and the guys at Headquarters love it.

Screwing customers while being thanked profusely for it is the goal here!

105 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:28:13pm

re: #89 HoosierHoops

Why? As i posted on the DT. It's a thing of beauty..
Who could write something so inane without getting deleted?
Can Af get to -400? The hall of shame has added a #1 player.

She just posted moonbat talking points, I don't think she violated any terms of commentary at the top of the comment page, except maybe the 'annoying' part. Given that we're having so much fun with it, I think Stinky may be giving it an 'annoyance waiver'.

106 HoosierHoops  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:28:49pm

re: #96 HBob

Darn. The new license agreement says I need to get a "mark" on my right hand or forehead. Should I do it?

Sure..as long as you tattoo only hexadecimal numbers on your forehead, I think you'll be OK.

107 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:29:01pm

re: #94 opnion

i would HOPE not.

108 quickjustice  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:29:53pm

re: #103 ErnieG

"Greedy" and "brainy" aren't mutually exclusive. Of course, it's the toxic combination of greed and stupidity that comes to the attention of millions of customers.

109 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:30:15pm

re: #103 ErnieG

Deadlines my friend...deadlines........

I would go for the arguement that they KNEW exactly what it said.....but wanted the "option" of taking the property just in case noone read it.

110 opnion  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:31:18pm

re: #107 WrathofG-d

i would HOPE not.

Ok, can't use it then. Damn!

111 HoosierHoops  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:31:39pm

re: #105 CyanSnowHawk

She just posted moonbat talking points, I don't think she violated any terms of commentary at the top of the comment page, except maybe the 'annoying' part. Given that we're having so much fun with it, I think Stinky may be giving it an 'annoyance waiver'.

LOL
I saw your sock puppet was wacking AF. It is fun isn't it?

112 jcm  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:32:17pm

re: #98 CyanSnowHawk

I'm pretty sure it means that they try to use a basic "default" EULA, and minimize the tailoring they do to it when they apply it to a specific product. This can result in certain sections of the EULA being a poor fit for the product it is applied to. The thinking behind this is that you have a more uniform set of documentation across your product line, which will lower your costs since a tailored version of a default EULA costs less to produce than a new one from scratch. (That's the theory anyway.)

This quiz?

113 galloping granny  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:32:41pm

re: #88 WrathofG-d

What they are saying is that they took a short cut when creating this contract and simply copy & pasted another prior "use agreement" for another product, and didn't read it to make sure it fit for this product.

What they are probably really saying is that they are trying the same old scam that has been tried before with content creation software and got caught. :)

114 gop_patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:36:33pm

re: #65 Slumbering Behemoth

Glad you're OK, are you tired and sore because you've been working out or something?

We're just drying out here (central Arkansas) from the remnants of Gustav. Lost power for about 12 hours, but that was pretty short compared to some of my friends. A few got their power on just a couple of hours ago, some are still without. The rain was something else. Literally non-stop for three days and nights. Localized flooding, lots of trees down, etc.

Other than that, I'm doing very well, thanks! :)

115 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:37:48pm

NBC Nightly News.

/desperately trying to put the Palin genie back in the bottle

116 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:38:03pm

re: #91 Killian Bundy


UPDATE
Submitted by haloka on Thu, 09/04/2008 - 17:17.
cred_rating:
Four

cops appear about to gas. many people with limited mobility may not be able to get out. cops have announced 5pm permit ending; but not necessarily about the bridge itself. ** coldsnap says rumors of curfew are false.

* 5 reads

UPDATE
Submitted by haloka on Thu, 09/04/2008 - 17:09.
cred_rating:
Four

march has ~600 people heading south on john ireland, blocked on 94 bridge. dispersal order just issued, reportedly. police are using snowplows to barricade.

* 4 reads

UPDATE
Submitted by haloka on Thu, 09/04/2008 - 17:00.
cred_rating:
Five

march has approx. 600 people, leaving capitol now. still extremely massive police presence. 5 tactical units deployed - heavy green kevlar with brown flapjackets, longer billyclubs. multiple undercovers sighted. 20 mounted police just swooped in.

* 4 reads

117 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:39:02pm

re: #104 quickjustice

"I own everything you fools input" isn't properly "tailored". Hmmm.

In the old days, we called this overreaching and greed, not "bad tailoring". The folks in Legal write it, and the guys at Headquarters love it.

Screwing customers while being thanked profusely for it is the goal here!

As I understand it, it is boilerplate text from other Google EULAs and those terms are in place to prevent Google being sued for content created or viewed by a user with Google's tools. It also does not state that Google owns the content the user creates, it simply gives them a license to use it without compensation. All copyright and ownership remains with the content creator/author.

I read the terms last night and am going from memory here, but it seems to be a "Cover Our Ass" clause that does reach too far by being somewhat vague or overly inclusive. I have no idea of the real legal meaning of the thing, not being well educated in law myself.

118 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:43:17pm

re: #116 Noam Sayin'

cops appear about to gas. many people with limited mobility may not be able to get out

/probably should have thought of that earlier and been elsewhere, tonight's agenda hasn't been a mystery for some time now, pretty soon the price of leaving is going to be a minimum of an unlawful assembly ticket

119 quickjustice  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:43:58pm

re: #117 CyanSnowHawk

I was exaggerating to make a basic point. Taking a "license" to use someone's IP without compensating them for it, and burying that language in a haystack of legalese doesn't strike me as a simple "scrivener's error".

120 RTLM  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:48:04pm
121 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:48:36pm

Look what that bastard O'Reilly made ZerObama say.
He must have water-boarded him.

NObama!

122 RTLM  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:49:08pm

broken link -
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

123 opnion  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:49:18pm

re: #118 Killian Bundy

/probably should have thought of that earlier and been elsewhere, tonight's agenda hasn't been a mystery for some time now, pretty soon the price of leaving is going to be a minimum of an unlawful assembly ticket


I have to agree with that. Nobody is confusd about what is planned for tonight. They are trying to create 68 all over again.
I know that because
of the passage of time the Chicago protests have gaine a mystique.
They were actually punks doing among other things trying to hit people with beer cans from the upper floors of the Congress Hotel, which of course could kill., & these were the McCarthy kids.

124 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:49:21pm

re: #120 RTLM

yer link is hosed - extra HTTP

125 SnakeSpit  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:49:28pm

I don't like google at all, but I like the google earth feature. Is there anyway to get google earth without any of their other stuff?

OT All lizards should contribute to the McCain/Palin campaign, no matter how small the contribution.

126 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:49:28pm

re: #112 jcm

That was fun. I'm so totally middle of the road I think I'll vote McCain/Palin '08.

127 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:49:58pm

re: #121 IslandLibertarian

Look what that bastard O'Reilly made ZerObama say.
He must have water-boarded him.

NObama!

Obama FOR SENATE!

128 RTLM  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:50:11pm

re: #124 Noam Sayin'

Here you go -
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

129 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:50:32pm

re: #128 RTLM

Got it.

130 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:51:05pm

I think I'm going to get me a bottle of wine

BBL.

131 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:51:22pm

re: #127 WrathofG-d

Obama FOR SENATE community organizer!


/I couldn't resist.........

132 opnion  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:51:33pm

re: #121 IslandLibertarian

Look what that bastard O'Reilly made ZerObama say.
He must have water-boarded him.

NObama!


O'Reily is a dick with ears. Wait! So is Obama, real big ears.

133 galloping granny  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:51:47pm
134 jcm  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:51:52pm

File under WTF!

On May 19, 1983, Diane Downs pulled her car to the side of a rural road in Springfield and shot her three children ages 3, 7, and 8.

[snip]

Downs will get her chance to speak in December when her case comes up for parole consideration.


Parole? WTF?

135 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:52:40pm

re: #119 quickjustice

I was exaggerating to make a basic point. Taking a "license" to use someone's IP without compensating them for it, and burying that language in a haystack of legalese doesn't strike me as a simple "scrivener's error".

Ah, hyperbole. Don't much care for it. It does make me wonder, what other Google products contain that clause?

136 HelloDare  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:53:13pm

Hugh Hewitt just said that Obama is "A speech giving empty suit, like Abe Lincoln at Disneyland."

137 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:53:21pm
dispersal order at 17:51

/do you feel lucky?

138 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:53:46pm

re: #124 Noam Sayin'

yer link is hosed - extra HTTP

Only use on sheet of HTTP, it's better for the environment that way.

139 Racer X  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:53:54pm

Someone snapped Hillary's picture right after Sarah's speech last night.

Haha!

140 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:55:38pm

re: #138 CyanSnowHawk

Only use on sheet of HTTP, it's better for the environment that way.

Dammit! ONE sheet.

PIMF. Totally killed my on liner.

141 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:55:43pm
UPDATE
Submitted by haloka on Thu, 09/04/2008 - 17:48.
cred_rating:
Four

almost all cops at rice and john ireland have gas masks on, including gas masks. riot cops with deployment canisters ready on top of vehicles. standoff at rice/john ireland intersection.

142 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:56:02pm

re: #139 Racer X

To tell you the truth- I bet Hill was beaning with pride that a tough lady stood up to that punk 0bama, took it to him, and knocked it out of the park. Ten bucks says Hill's voting for Sarah. Only way Hill can run in 2012 is if 0bama loses.

143 HelloDare  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:56:08pm

re: #121 IslandLibertarian

Look what that bastard O'Reilly made ZerObama say.
He must have water-boarded him.

NObama!


I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated,” Obama said while refusing to retract his initial opposition to the surge. “I’ve already said it’s succeeded beyond our wildest dreams.”

McCain anticipated it.

144 gop_patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:56:31pm

re: #134 jcm

I read a bit of a book about her in a bookstore once. It made me so mad and upset that I had to just put the book down and walk away. What a disgusting person, I sure hope she doesn't get out on parole. That would be a travesty of justice.

145 callahan23  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:56:33pm

re: #125 SnakeSpit

OT All lizards should contribute to the McCain/Palin campaign, no matter how small the contribution.

3 Questions, first is it legal as a foreigner to donate to that ticket and
secondly are Paypal donations possible and if yes can you name the link?

146 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:56:40pm

re: #140 CyanSnowHawk

Fix yer 'e' key.

147 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:57:03pm

re: #142 Sharmuta

Er- beaming with pride.

148 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:57:51pm

re: #146 Noam Sayin'

Fix yer 'e' key.

Might be my left middle finger is strained from last weeks DNC.

149 gop_patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:58:23pm

Noam, your avatar is hilarious! :D Did you make it yourself, or find it somewhere?

150 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:58:37pm

I guess that I feel fortunate that I have nothing that Google (PBUI) would want.

151 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:58:37pm

re: #147 Sharmuta

Er- beaming with pride.

Glad you cleared that up, I thought more fart jokes were on the way.

152 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:59:10pm

re: #142 Sharmuta

To tell you the truth- I bet Hill was beaning with pride that a tough lady stood up to that punk 0bama, took it to him, and knocked it out of the park. Ten bucks says Hill's voting for Sarah. Only way Hill can run in 2012 is if 0bama loses.

And totally embarrassed that Sarah mopped the floor with Obama in one night.

153 gop_patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:59:33pm

re: #146 Noam Sayin'

re: #148 CyanSnowHawk

ROFLOL at both of you guys!

154 Racer X  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 3:59:56pm

re: #142 Sharmuta

To tell you the truth- I bet Hill was beaning with pride that a tough lady stood up to that punk 0bama, took it to him, and knocked it out of the park. Ten bucks says Hill's voting for Sarah. Only way Hill can run in 2012 is if 0bama loses.

Heh. Yep.

When I mentioned to a friend of mine that Obama blew it by not tapping Hillary as VP, she said what makes you think he didn't ask? She dislikes Hillary, and thinks she is sabotaging Obama (she wuvs him!).

155 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:00:29pm

re: #148 CyanSnowHawk

Yer apostrophe finger needs help too, then. ;)

re: #149 gop_patriot

Found it on some bumper sticker site someone posted here a while back.

156 galloping granny  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:01:00pm

re: #145 callahan23

3 Questions, first is it legal as a foreigner to donate to that ticket and
secondly are Paypal donations possible and if yes can you name the link?

No, it is not legal.

157 rawmuse  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:01:18pm

re: #125 SnakeSpit

I don't like google at all, but I like the google earth feature. Is there anyway to get google earth without any of their other stuff?

OT All lizards should contribute to the McCain/Palin campaign, no matter how small the contribution.

I dowloaded it as a stand alone app.

158 rawmuse  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:01:57pm

PIMF downloaded. (not my day today)

159 callahan23  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:02:36pm

re: #156 galloping granny

Thanks.
"Such a shame"

/80s music anyone?

160 ted  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:02:52pm

Yesterday I downloaded IE8...screwed everything up...removed it. IE7 works fine.
Not fooling with Chrome.

Golden Rule: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

161 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:03:14pm

re: #141 Noam Sayin'

UPDATE
Submitted by haloka on Thu, 09/04/2008 - 17:48.
cred_rating:
Four
almost all cops at rice and john ireland have gas masks on, including gas masks. riot cops with deployment canisters ready on top of vehicles. standoff at rice/john ireland intersection.

I'd say just let them all sit on the bridge until the convention is over. They're going nowhere.

/however, it appears that about 30 of them are trying to get down to the freeway, police will be waiting

162 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:03:18pm

re: #116 Noam Sayin'

Yu8p. I really like this tidbit >

with brown flapjackets

.

I got me one of them...

163 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:03:25pm

re: #142 Sharmuta

To tell you the truth- I bet Hill was beaning with pride that a tough lady stood up to that punk 0bama, took it to him, and knocked it out of the park. Ten bucks says Hill's voting for Sarah. Only way Hill can run in 2012 is if 0bama loses.

I don't know. If he wins, he could still turn into the second coming of Jimmah Carter. I don't think they would make the mistake of putting him on the followup ticket if that happened.

164 jcm  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:04:29pm

re: #161 Killian Bundy

I'd say just let them all sit on the bridge until the convention is over. They're going nowhere.

/however, it appears that about 30 of them are trying to get down to the freeway, police will be waiting

Temporary 100mph speed limit on the freeway?

165 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:04:34pm

re: #152 Noam Sayin'

Well unless she sees it as an upsurption, and can see the writiing on the wall that she just might not be the 1st Female President.

If what they say about Hillary is correct....I would imagine jealousy tinged with a bit of HOPE Obama loses.

166 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:04:52pm

re: #133 galloping granny

This is the correct URL -
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

I just read on another blog that there is a Kos Diary that says "Jesus was a community organizer, too."

These Kosacks are as twisted as the box of rigatoni I have sitting in my pantry.

167 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:05:26pm

-360 and dropping like the Obama campaign!

168 opnion  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:06:24pm

re: #166 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I just read on another blog that there is a Kos Diary that says "Jesus was a community organizer, too."

These Kosacks are as twisted as the box of rigatoni I have sitting in my pantry.

Jesus was a typical White guy, bitterly clinging to his religion.

169 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:06:40pm

They're letting them off the bridge!

/pay now or pay later

170 SnakeSpit  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:06:41pm

re: #145 callahan23
I're: #157 rawmuse

m sorry, but I can't answer that question intelligently. Maybe some of the smarter lizards can help you out. Again, I'm sorry.

171 infidel Alan  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:06:42pm

I'm sure Hillary hates Obama. He is a punk who cut in line in front of her.

172 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:07:06pm

re: #168 opnion

Jesus was a typical White guy, bitterly clinging to his religion.


Unless, of course, invoking His name suits their argument.

173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:07:10pm

re: #168 opnion

Jesus was a typical White guy, bitterly clinging to his religion.


I have imagined him looking more like Woody Allen than Ted Nugent.

174 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:07:17pm

re: #163 CyanSnowHawk

I don't know. If he wins, he could still turn into the second coming of Jimmah Carter. I don't think they would make the mistake of putting him on the followup ticket if that happened.

Even jimmhi won the nomination of his party a second time- Hill stands no chance to oust him as the nominee in 2012 if he wins in November.

re: #154 Racer X

Heh. Yep.

When I mentioned to a friend of mine that Obama blew it by not tapping Hillary as VP, she said what makes you think he didn't ask? She dislikes Hillary, and thinks she is sabotaging Obama (she wuvs him!).

She's not up on the news, is she? It was well reported 0bama didn't even vet Hill for the VP spot.

175 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:07:25pm

re: #169 Killian Bundy

They're letting them off the bridge!

/pay now or pay later

Is this on TV?

176 gop_patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:07:28pm

re: #159 callahan23


/80s music anyone?

Sure, why not? Can't get much more 80s than this group!

177 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:07:52pm
UPDATE
Submitted by haloka on Thu, 09/04/2008 - 17:56.
cred_rating:
Five

more snowplows moved in. many reports of cops having given 5-10 minute warning before chemical deployment

Okay, really going for wine, now.

178 jorline  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:08:06pm

WOW Fox just showed a guy that's the spitting image of Abe Lincoln.

179 galloping granny  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:08:08pm

re: #160 ted

Yesterday I downloaded IE8...screwed everything up...removed it. IE7 works fine.
Not fooling with Chrome.

Golden Rule: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

FireFox3 is good.

180 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:08:49pm

The nazi is now up to -360.

181 Piglet-U93  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:09:02pm

The meeting has been called to order.

182 gop_patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:09:28pm

re: #177 Noam Sayin'

Where are you getting this? Who is "haloka"?

183 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:09:33pm

re: #173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fat Bastard, how could you have given annefrance a plus?

184 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:10:03pm

re: #175 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Is this on TV?

Radio scanner.

/or you can monitor the freaks themselves

185 opnion  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:11:03pm

re: #172 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Unless, of course, invoking His name suits their argument.

That is so true. They oppose the ideology of Jesus at almost every turn, but when it suits their purposes , they will use him.
But hey, how about Black Liberation Theology? Jesus was a Palistibnian, African Jew who hatred Whites.

186 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:11:05pm

re: #183 DesertSage

Error! I've always said those buttons should be further apart...

187 JCM  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:11:27pm

re: #183 DesertSage

Fat Bastard, how could you have given annefrance a plus?

Most + are failure of proper mouse control....
;-)

Several admitted they accidental hit the wrong button.

188 christheprofessor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:11:27pm

FOOTBALL!

189 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:11:33pm

re: #183 DesertSage

Fat Bastard, how could you have given annefrance a plus?

How are you even seeing the pluses? I can't see the entire list.

190 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:12:06pm

i wish sarah palin was going to speak again tonight.

191 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:12:24pm

re: #184 Killian Bundy

Radio scanner.

/or you can monitor the freaks themselves


DAMN!

I wanna see it on the TV...I love hippies and commies getting their asses kicked by the man.

192 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:13:41pm

I am so fired up that I am going to get more involved in my local politics.

I want to be a delegate next time!

193 opnion  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:13:43pm

re: #190 nyc redneck

i wish sarah palin was going to speak again tonight.

She might. The McCain people are being coy about it.

194 realwest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:13:45pm

re: #190 nyc redneck
Hi nyc redneck! I loved Sarah Palin's speech last night, too - but don't you want to hear McCain speak tonight?

195 godfrey  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:14:22pm

Has this video about Palin been posted yet? It will be shown tonight at the convention. Nice puff, but very well-deserved.

196 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:14:28pm

re: #191 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

DAMN!

I wanna see it on the TV...I love hippies and commies getting their asses kicked by the man.

/the tear gassing will not be televised, look for it on YouTube tomorrow

197 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:14:51pm

re: #189 Sharmuta

How are you even seeing the pluses? I can't see the entire list.

10 pluses. Some familiar names. I'm sure most were by accident.
I's getting really tight at the bottom of the page though, the last row of names are half cut off.

198 opnion  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:14:54pm

re: #194 realwest

Hi nyc redneck! I loved Sarah Palin's speech last night, too - but don't you want to hear McCain speak tonight?

Hey Real, how do you feel now?

199 deanayer  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:14:58pm

Gee ! You mean that I can use the totally evil Google's browser and just now they WONT vacuum up every single thing I write and do AND the browser will remain in beta forever - such a deal !

I cant wait till Google flames out, they are the worst thing to ever happen to the internet.

200 gop_patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:15:08pm

re: #191 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

LOL me too. Does anyone know of any "live cams" near the RNC that we could watch? I searched but didn't come up with anything.

201 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:15:09pm

re: #193 opnion

She might. The McCain people are being coy about it.


They will be showing the video that got cut last night due to Rudy running over time.

I also have it in good understanding that the McCain vid is going to be "strong".

202 christheprofessor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:16:25pm

re: #186 Cap'n DOC

Error! I've always said those buttons should be further apart...

I suggested putting the ding counter between the "+" and the "-" sign but...

203 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:16:29pm

re: #196 Killian Bundy

/the tear gassing will not be televised, look for it on YouTube tomorrow

One of my favorite sports is debating those Larouche robots that are deployed around election time.

204 opnion  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:17:12pm

re: #201 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

They will be showing the video that got cut last night due to Rudy running over time.

I also have it in good understanding that the McCain vid is going to be "strong".

Right, but Neil Cavuto asked a McCain guy if she might speak tonight and he sais, "You'll just have to watch."

205 infidel Alan  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:17:18pm

According to al-Reuters, US troops made an incursion into Pakistani territory this week, just several days before the Pakistani presidential election. This must have been timed deliberately to send the Pakistanis a message. I hope this was done after careful deliberation.

206 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:17:30pm

re: #192 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I am so fired up that I am going to get more involved in my local politics.

I want to be a delegate next time!

That's the spirit! I'm sure your local GOP would be thrilled to have you start now to help push for victory in November. In fact- I know everyone's local party would be thrilled to have help.

207 godfrey  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:18:01pm

Larouche!

Is he still alive? He's always good for the good-natured "you're a weird, fringe cult figure" kind of response.

208 chukardog  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:18:10pm

google= america hating commie scum. Regect them, dont use them for anything. "spits"

209 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:18:44pm
with a peace sign have five gallon bucket of urine

/well, that's a surprise

210 christheprofessor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:18:48pm

And Manning runs in the first touchdown of the season...

211 jorline  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:18:57pm

Shepard Smith just described Sarah Palin's speech last night as harsh and sometimes sarcastic. Rudy just shot Shepard down by talking about B & O's speeches last week.

212 Racer X  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:18:58pm

re: #174 Sharmuta

It was well reported 0bama didn't even vet Hillary for the VP spot.


I mentioned that on several occasions Hillary appeared to open the door to be his VP, and that Obama never so much as sniffed back.

She would have none of it. All Hillary's fault. She was furious that republicans would pick this woman with so few qualifications. When I pointed out that Sarah has more executive experience than Obama, she went with the "well, he has been running for president for the past year and a half. That is a pretty good qualification."

It got comical after that.

213 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:19:10pm

re: #183 DesertSage

CRAP!

214 callahan23  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:19:15pm

re: #176 gop_patriot

Very European but crazily british

Your link does not open in my country as the Tube tells me?!?

215 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:19:31pm

-363, the down dings match the comment number.

216 godfrey  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:19:32pm

re: #205 infidel Alan

Thanks, IA. It's important not to lose sight of those stories. When the news cycle is preoccupied, all kinds of stuff happens under the radar. That's a good example.

217 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:19:40pm

re: #204 opnion

Right, but Neil Cavuto asked a McCain guy if she might speak tonight and he sais, "You'll just have to watch."

Cool. I hope so!

Just as an asside, when McCain announced Palin, a conservative man in my office judged the decision a disaster...no experience, pandering to the women vote, etc.

His tune was changed last night and he was man enough to say so just a loudly as he did when saying the nomination was a mistake.

218 godfrey  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:20:13pm

re: #211 jorline

MSM journalists would never stoop to sarcasm!

/sarc

219 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:20:18pm

WHY DID YOU LET THEM OFF THE BRIDGE?

/fun and games

220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:20:47pm

re: #183 DesertSage

Fat Bastard, how could you have given annefrance a plus?

These plus/minus buttons...they frighten me with their closeness.

Double Crap!

221 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:21:11pm

re: #206 Sharmuta

That's the spirit! I'm sure your local GOP would be thrilled to have you start now to help push for victory in November. In fact- I know everyone's local party would be thrilled to have help.


I've laready requested tons of yard signs and a walk list from my local chair.

SOmeone is coming over to my place tomorrow to give me my list and my signs. I walked for Dan Patrick (my state senator) and had a ball.

222 jorline  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:21:23pm

re: #215 CyanSnowHawk

-363, the down dings match the comment number.

Do you think she will ever show her sorry ass around here again?

223 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:22:08pm

re: #207 godfrey

Larouche!

Is he still alive? He's always good for the good-natured "you're a weird, fringe cult figure" kind of response.


Well, alive may be too optimistic a term, but as far as I know he's still breathing.

224 JCM  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:22:20pm

re: #219 Killian Bundy

WHY DID YOU LET THEM OFF THE BRIDGE?

/fun and games

If they where trying to climb off, probably for safety / litigation concerns.

Nice case, my poor Johnny was forced by the brutal Stazi Riot Police to leap for his life off the bridge in front of a speeding semi truck.

225 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:22:22pm

re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

These plus/minus buttons...they frighten me with their closeness.

Double Crap!

Those buttons are just two sides of the same coin, I guess :')

226 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:22:24pm

re: #222 jorline

She'll be the one with the White Flag for an Avatar.

227 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:22:30pm

re: #222 jorline

Do you think she will ever show her sorry ass around here again?

If she keeps to her current pace, it will be sometime near the end of Oct.

228 gunjam  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:22:33pm

Google: The enemy within.

229 godfrey  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:22:49pm

re: #212 Racer X

People actually buy that "Obama running for President qualifies him to be President" line.

lol

Never mind that he is not "running" his own campaign. He is consulted, but he is not "running" his campaign.

That sort of thing tends to be done by professionals.

230 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:22:55pm

re: #222 jorline

Do you think she will ever show her sorry ass around here again?

Well what did you expect from the Fwench.....

231 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:23:15pm

My neighbor (ABSOLUTELY GREAT GUY!) has an Obama sign out in his front yard. Thinking of making a sign...

"Love my neighbor, but I'm voting McCain/Palin!

He is the least moonbatty democrat I have ever known. Good friend.

232 jordash1212  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:23:19pm

This is standard practice with Google where they copy and paste EULAs from all of their services. I read above someone doesn't even want to use it, well then you had better discontinue the use of any Google product if you're that paranoid.

233 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:23:19pm

re: #224 JCM

Would you please add a Sarc tag?

234 JCM  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:23:58pm

re: #222 jorline

Do you think she will ever show her sorry ass around here again?

Beside the down dings, a serious case of whoopass ensued it the following comments.

It's probably burned it's password so it can't log back on.

235 realwest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:24:09pm

re: #198 opnion
Hey my friend! Saw the OS yesterday and he said I'm healing up "perfectly" but I still have a LOT of socket and jaw bone pain - he said that should go away in "a week or so"!
Oh. Joy.
How are you doing?

236 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:24:13pm

I think that ROnald Reagan would have just loved Sarah Palin!

237 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:24:18pm

re: #231 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Those are the harmless ones...

238 Luigi  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:24:31pm

Victor Hanson in Pajamas Media today...

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]


If the post-Speech reaction of the talking heads at CNN, PBS and MSBNC, or the op-ed ravings of Gloria Steinem, Maureen Dowd, Eleanor Clift or Sally Quinn are any indication, the Secret Service better enlist the Alaskan National Guard for help ensuring the Alaskan Governor’s safety.

This is a classicist speaking. That's why he referred to the Alaska National Guard. The emperor would always surround himself with his most loyal guards.

He's not kidding. The Dems are determined to stop her. One British columnist today quipped that the reaction of the media and elites to her is basically: "Exterminate! Exterminate!"

Sarah is the most dangerous person in the world right now, and the person in the most danger. I hope Sen. McCain, with all his security experience, is mindful of this.

239 gop_patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:24:39pm

re: #214 callahan23

Very European but crazily british

Your link does not open in my country as the Tube tells me?!?

My dear, I own that song. LOL Love Adam and The Ants. :)

Are you in England? It was Duran Duran, Rio. Odd that they'd be blocked there! Maybe because it was the EMI America official channel. Who knows.

240 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:24:47pm

re: #193 opnion

She might. The McCain people are being coy about it.

oh,
fabulous.
she was so inspiring. i'm still thinking abt. her speech.
she made it look so easy for a politician to be forthright, open, informative, honest.
makes you wonder why so many act like deceitful, evasive gas bags./

241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:24:50pm

OMG! BTW....

FOOTBALL!

242 jorline  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:25:05pm

re: #226 Cap'n DOC

She'll be the one with the White Flag for an Avatar.

LOL...or Wile E. Coyote

243 JCM  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:25:07pm

re: #233 Cap'n DOC

Would you please add a Sarc tag?

Sorry!

244 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:25:19pm

re: #233 Cap'n DOC

It's right there between safety and litigation, didn't you see it?

/

245 Lee Coller  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:25:29pm

re: #31 Sharmuta

Gold? More like some cheap alloy.

How about the Pyrite? (fools gold for those that don't know).

246 JCM  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:25:38pm

re: #236 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I think that ROnald Reagan would have just loved Sarah Palin!

I think we found the pony!

247 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:25:41pm

re: #212 Racer X

It sounds pretty comical.

re: #221 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I've laready requested tons of yard signs and a walk list from my local chair.

SOmeone is coming over to my place tomorrow to give me my list and my signs. I walked for Dan Patrick (my state senator) and had a ball.

That's awesome! Every bit as much as McCain needs money- the ticket needs volunteers.

248 christheprofessor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:25:41pm

re: #231 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My neighbor (ABSOLUTELY GREAT GUY!) has an Obama sign out in his front yard. Thinking of making a sign...

"Love my neighbor, but I'm voting McCain/Palin!

He is the least moonbatty democrat I have ever known. Good friend.

Perhaps it's for target practice? Get out in rural NC and it seems like every other sign has bullet holes in it (particularly the "deer crossing" signs)...

249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:25:45pm

re: #243 JCM

Sorry!

Whew.

250 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:26:00pm

re: #235 realwest

Hey my friend! Saw the OS yesterday and he said I'm healing up "perfectly" but I still have a LOT of socket and jaw bone pain - he said that should go away in "a week or so"!
Oh. Joy.
How are you doing?

He had a tooth or something cut out, right? Well when I had my wisdoms removed the Dr. packed the sockets with gauze soaked in clove oil....worked waaaaay better than the mind numbing drugs ( tho not as much fun!)

251 realwest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:26:13pm

re: #210 christheprofessor
Hey CtP ! The game is on NOW? I thought the Giants/Skins was tonight?!
What's the score - quarter etc? PULEEZE!

252 opnion  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:26:23pm

re: #217 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Cool. I hope so!

Just as an asside, when McCain announced Palin, a conservative man in my office judged the decision a disaster...no experience, pandering to the women vote, etc.

His tune was changed last night and he was man enough to say so just a loudly as he did when saying the nomination was a mistake.


I think that a lot of people came over based on that speech, including Hillary women. She just has got that thing.

253 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:26:32pm

re: #194 realwest

Hi nyc redneck! I loved Sarah Palin's speech last night, too - but don't you want to hear McCain speak tonight?

hey {real},
of course i want to hear mccain. i'd like to hear them both.
btw how are you feeling?

254 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:26:43pm

re: #244 CyanSnowHawk

LOL. It must have been a Hit & Run.

255 Kenneth  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:26:58pm

re: #205 infidel Alan

According to al-Reuters, US troops made an incursion into Pakistani territory this week, just several days before the Pakistani presidential election. This must have been timed deliberately to send the Pakistanis a message. I hope this was done after careful deliberation.

See! See! I told them to invade Pakistan, Bush is stealing all my best ideas! - B. Obama

256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:27:01pm

re: #251 realwest

Hey CtP ! The game is on NOW? I thought the Giants/Skins was tonight?!
What's the score - quarter etc? PULEEZE!

7-0 Giants. 1st quarter. Gonna be ugly, Skins first possession...3 and out.

257 jorline  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:27:32pm

RW

258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:27:34pm

re: #251 realwest

Hey CtP ! The game is on NOW? I thought the Giants/Skins was tonight?!
What's the score - quarter etc? PULEEZE!

NBC

259 godfrey  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:27:36pm

re: #231 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have Lesser Moonbat friends as well, and those are the ones I make a special point of providing with very specific, neutral-sounding facts, like ones related to Palin's executive experience.

260 gop_patriot  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:28:15pm

re: #238 Luigi

He's not kidding. The Dems are determined to stop her. One British columnist today quipped that the reaction of the media and elites to her is basically: "Exterminate! Exterminate!"

The elite media are an awful lot like Daleks, aren't they.

261 godfrey  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:28:33pm

re: #238 Luigi

I'm afraid you're right. Palin is like the young Kennedy. She strikes existential fear in the hearts of lefties everywhere.

262 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:28:45pm

re: #224 JCM

If they where trying to climb off, probably for safety / litigation concerns.

Nice case, my poor Johnny was forced by the brutal Stazi Riot Police to leap for his life off the bridge in front of a speeding semi truck.

Well, gee, now they get to scatter and run amok all night.

/personally, I would have preferred that they gassed the [expletive deleted] out of them, this is ridiculous, they're not even protesting anything

263 opnion  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:28:48pm

re: #221 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I've laready requested tons of yard signs and a walk list from my local chair.

SOmeone is coming over to my place tomorrow to give me my list and my signs. I walked for Dan Patrick (my state senator) and had a ball.

I have my yard signs on the way. I will face them right at the neighbor across the street that put up terrorist wanted posters for the Founding Fathers on July 4th.

264 christheprofessor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:29:17pm

re: #251 realwest

Hey CtP ! The game is on NOW? I thought the Giants/Skins was tonight?!
What's the score - quarter etc? PULEEZE!

7-0 Giants, Manning ran it in on the first possession...

On NBC...

265 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:29:19pm

re: #211 jorline

Shepard Smith just described Sarah Palin's speech last night as harsh and sometimes sarcastic. Rudy just shot Shepard down by talking about B & O's speeches last week.

shep is such a wide eyed dork. he's not a shepard, he's a pekingese.

266 godfrey  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:29:48pm

re: #252 opnion

Yes, and "that thing" that Palin has is called authentic competence. That's what makes her calm, confident, and secure.

The Left will do anything to stop her.

267 realwest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:30:51pm

re: #250 The Pulchritudinous Patriot Yeah he did pack the socket - it was a tooth extraction, upper right, rearmost - which had had a root canal 20+ years ago - but the packing came out after about 3 days or so. I'm already taking the exhaustive drugs for my cancer!

268 jorline  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:31:16pm

re: #265 nyc redneck

shep is such a wide eyed dork. he's not a shepard, he's a pekingese.

Hey now...I had Pek's while growing up...more like a weenie dog...lol

269 wolfie  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:32:28pm

re: #188 christheprofessor

Go 'Skins!

sigh

270 realwest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:32:43pm

re: #256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian How far did Eli have to run it in?
Did he throw any completions before the run - can't watch the game now, mom's watching FOX!

271 callahan23  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:32:44pm

re: #239 gop_patriot

Are you in England? It was Duran Duran, Rio. Odd that they'd be blocked there! Maybe because it was the EMI America official channel. Who knows.

No, in Germany. I hope the accent doesn't tell. ;)
Also very 80s, British but very swell: Spandau Ballet but even better than that ABC!

272 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:33:52pm

re: #268 jorline

Hey now...I had Pek's while growing up...more like a weenie dog...lol

oooops, i do love all dogs. not wanting to malign any, but the guy is not a shepard. just trying to get him an appropriate name.
lol

273 christheprofessor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:34:15pm

re: #269 wolfie

Go 'Skins!

sigh

I'm largely ambivalent, but if pulling for one ever so slightly, it's be the Giants.

Less biased than the media, though.

274 Kenneth  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:34:33pm

re: #236 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I think that ROnald Reagan would have just loved Sarah Palin!

I already declared her speech "Reaganesque". She had that folksie touch, at the same time she spoke to high ideals and deeply held values. Like Reagan, she could crack a joke and smack her opponents hard. Most importantly, Sarah Palin talked with her audience (the aside to the hockey moms was a gem), not to her audience. She's a natual and tough as nails.

275 realwest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:34:34pm

re: #253 {nyc redneck} I don't hurt as much as I did, but still in pain. How are you doing tonight?

276 realwest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:34:59pm

re: #257 jorline Hey jorline!
How are ya doing?

277 JCM  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:35:52pm

re: #262 Killian Bundy

Well, gee, now they get to scatter and run amok all night.

/personally, I would have preferred that they gassed the [expletive deleted] out of them, this is ridiculous, they're not even protesting anything

I have a simple rule I'd like to see, a protest follows the route. As soon as a single thing gets thrown, a newspaper box overturned, or it goes off route it gets shut down. Anyone tries anything... off to jail.

Protest, chant all you want. First Amend doesn't cover violence against property or people.

278 christheprofessor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:35:59pm

re: #270 realwest

How far did Eli have to run it in?
Did he throw any completions before the run - can't watch the game now, mom's watching FOX!

Does your TV have PIP (Picture in Picture)? If so, you can watch the game in the little screen (with no sound) while your mother watches Fox.
Even if your TV isn't so equipped, some cable boxes will do it on any TV...

279 realwest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:37:33pm

re: #278 christheprofessor
No, I don't have PiP either on TV or Monitor! And the way I react to Giants games - I've been a proud fan for 50 years now - mom would shoot me if I could and did watch it while she was watching FOX!
Does Eli look good? Does the Giant D look good?

280 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:37:37pm

re: #275 realwest

I don't hurt as much as I did, but still in pain. How are you doing tonight?

i'm so glad to hear you're better.
i'm good. so excited abt. the momentum now w/ sarah palin.
we really need to win this one.

281 christheprofessor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:39:10pm

re: #272 nyc redneck

oooops, i do love all dogs. not wanting to malign any, but the guy is not a shepard. just trying to get him an appropriate name.
lol

Speaking of loving dogs -- I almost had a bad night here. As I was coming home from the store about 45 minutes ago, my dumbass neighbor kid threw a ball into the road right in front of me, which the other neighbor's dog ran after. I managed to stop but believe me, I chewed that kid out big-time! He did it intentionally and was throwing it for the dog to chase. Said he didn't see me but I could see him throw the ball, so I know he could see me. Lied through his teeth, the little bastard.

282 christheprofessor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:40:13pm

re: #279 realwest

No, I don't have PiP either on TV or Monitor! And the way I react to Giants games - I've been a proud fan for 50 years now - mom would shoot me if I could and did watch it while she was watching FOX!
Does Eli look good? Does the Giant D look good?

Eli looks great, they've got the running and passing game going well. Redskins first offensive play was a sack, and they went three and out.

283 jorline  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:40:16pm

re: #272 nyc redneck

oooops, i do love all dogs. not wanting to malign any, but the guy is not a shepard. just trying to get him an appropriate name.
lol

I know what you mean my friend...Shep's an ass!

284 christheprofessor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:40:48pm

re: #279 realwest

10-0 Giants

285 Archimedes  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:41:57pm

re: #71 Bubblehead II

Thanks, it's at a -352 now.

I wonder if she was just kidding?
re: #167 DesertSage

-360 and dropping like the Obama campaign!


I just down dinged it to -373. I usually don't like piling on, but in this case she does really deserve it and I like the record number thing.

286 callahan23  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:43:04pm

Goin' upstream

287 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:43:08pm

re: #281 christheprofessor

Speaking of loving dogs -- I almost had a bad night here. As I was coming home from the store about 45 minutes ago, my dumbass neighbor kid threw a ball into the road right in front of me, which the other neighbor's dog ran after. I managed to stop but believe me, I chewed that kid out big-time! He did it intentionally and was throwing it for the dog to chase. Said he didn't see me but I could see him throw the ball, so I know he could see me. Lied through his teeth, the little bastard.

tell the neighbors who own the dog. and the kids parents should know too.
something's wrong w/ that kid.
glad you stopped in time. wow. i would hate to run over a dog.

288 christheprofessor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:43:59pm

re: #279 realwest

Giants just roughed the Redskins punter, giving them the ball back.

289 RTLM  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:44:27pm

Latest lame moonbat Palin smear. "She didn't write her own speech"
[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]

Obama not only doesn't write his own speeches blatherings, he merely parrots the words of others . The only things he's open about and gives any detail whatsoever to are the nightmare LLL Defense cuts

290 realwest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:44:40pm

re: #284 christheprofessor
Thanks CtP - you da Man!
Unfortunately I gotta go mush some dinner now - will try to sneak in the game from time to time, but will probably have to wait until a) the news tonight or b) hopefully an e-mail from you (HINT!) LOL!

291 Kenneth  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:44:43pm

More nuance from the Big O,

“I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated,” Obama said while refusing to retract his initial opposition to the surge. “I’ve already said it’s succeeded beyond our wildest dreams.” However, he added, the country has not had enough “political reconciliation” and Iraqis still have not taken responsibility for their country.

So it worked, but nobody knew it would work, but it didn't work, so he was still right to be against it because it didn't work except it did work but nobody knew it would work.

I hope all us rubes in bitter-clingin' country can grasp that higher level thinkin' the Big O does. We're really not worthy of him...

292 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:45:51pm

re: #236 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I think that ROnald Reagan would have just loved Sarah Palin!

Sarah Palin is a true Reagan Republican.

293 realwest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:46:31pm

GACK - gotta go mush some dinner!
Hope you all have a great evening (especially the Giant's "D"(!) and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

BTW - CTP - latest forecast shows Hanna making landfall about 50 miles or so from where you are!

294 realwest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:47:07pm

re: #288 christheprofessor

CRAP!
GO DEFENSE!

295 christheprofessor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:47:17pm

re: #287 nyc redneck

The neighbor who owned the dog was outside washing her car (she was bent over inside it at the time) -- the kid was standing behind her when he through the ball. I stopped and chewed the kid out (from my car), then went and parked and walked over. By then, the kid was gone and the dog owner said he claimed he didn't see me.

I don't think he intended any harm to the animal, I just think he wasn't thinking. As I told the dog owner, he knew I was coming and even if he didn't, he should never throw stuff out in the road for a dog to chase. What a dumbass.

296 HoosierHoops  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:48:48pm

re: #251 realwest

Hey CtP ! The game is on NOW? I thought the Giants/Skins was tonight?!
What's the score - quarter etc? PULEEZE!


I'm there for ya realwest.. The Giants are kicking butt from the first snap.
I would ask you how it feels to root for a team that is superbowl champions..but..I already know..
What about those Manning brothers...
I'll move over to the convention after it becomes a rout...

297 christheprofessor  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:49:15pm

re: #293 realwest

GACK - gotta go mush some dinner!
Hope you all have a great evening (especially the Giant's "D"(!) and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

BTW - CTP - latest forecast shows Hanna making landfall about 50 miles or so from where you are!


Thanks for the heads-up. I'm planning on hitting the grocery store after the game tonight...

298 spidly  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:50:26pm

the fine prints gives them the right to deliver you into the hands of the Chicom secret police.

299 realwest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:56:53pm

re: #297 christheprofessor
(Ok, ma! I'm coming!) hey CtP - don't forget to charge your cellphone up and fill the vehicle with gas!
And get plenty of water!

Really outta here now!

300 JCM  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:57:51pm

re: #298 spidly

the fine prints gives them the right to deliver you into the hands of the Chicom secret police.

KNOCK
KNOCK
KNOCK

301 realwest  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 4:59:07pm

re: #296 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops - the Giants are 3-1 in superbowls and I've watched them all - would love to see Colts/Giants
Superbowl this year!
Bye really running now!

302 RTLM  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 5:00:01pm

re: #300 JCM

KNOCK
KNOCK
KNOCK

More like

KICK
KICK
SMASH!

303 ErnieG  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 5:11:33pm

re: #300 JCM

KNOCK
KNOCK
KNOCK

"Yes?"

"Candygram."

304 spidly  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 5:17:54pm

Community Organizer? Sounds too close to supreme executive power.
I thought the south side of Chicago was an anarcho-syndicalist commune and they took it in turns to act as an executive officer for a week.

305 Bubblehead II  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 5:29:44pm

re: #233 Cap'n DOC

Are you sure it was sarcasm? With all the ambulance chasers out there, there is probably more truth in that comment than meets the eye.

/You reading this Silky?

306 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 6:11:14pm

re: #114 gop_patriot


Glad you're OK, are you tired and sore because you've been working out or something?

Have you been spying on me? :) Good guess, sore from working out*, tired from little sleep.

I did not know you were out that way (AR), guess it never came up before. Glad to hear you are doing fine and that you made it through without injury.

Sorry I took forever to reply, but my grandma takes a while to get moving, and always takes a long time shopping. Can't really complain, though. What am I gonna say to a woman who used to change my diapers? Hurry it up? Not freakin' likely, not me.

*Yeah, I work out. No, I am not "buff".

307 Yelnats  Thu, Sep 4, 2008 8:43:16pm
308 erisldysnomia  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:41:45am
Google’s Rebecca Ward, Senior Product Counsel for Google Chrome, now tells Ars Technica that the company tries to reuse these licenses as much as possible, “in order to keep things simple for our users.”

What she's really saying is that the people in the legal department are abject morons who don't vet what they produce.

That probably also applies to the programming dept. Bugs, holes, security flaws anyone?

Why would you trust your browser to a company like this?

p.s. aren't they also into Electronic Medical Records? ---gasp---

309 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 8:34:00am

re: #20 David IV of Georgia

Chrome actually has some very nice features. And gogle can get pretty much anything you have on the web regardless of whether you use their products or not. So I can expect Chrome to run in Mac when? Sometimes it sucks to be the one with the Lamborgini.

Dave 4 -

Always thought of a Mac as being more of a Lancia or Alfa. Stuff like Lambo or Ferarri are more like "Kit Cars" that break a lot.

-S-

310 mgscheue  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 8:42:22am

Glad to see they revised it. I know some fellow photographers who were very reluctant to try Chrome given their original TOS. It's really something you need to watch out for. Facebook's TOS is among the worst anywhere and I refuse to post any images there because of it.


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