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Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:52:55 am PDT

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1 marsl  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:53:47am

Obama? I love McCain.

2 sadhu  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:54:40am

2 dolts

3 zombie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:55:50am

O'Bama on O'Reilly? Faith and begorrah, it must be St. Paddy's Day!

4 pegcity  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:56:14am

perverted the faith of islam

buzz, wrong

Try again

5 MacDuff  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:56:40am

I'm amazed that both of those egos could even fit in the same room.

6 kynna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:56:41am

Uh ... uh... uh ...

He doesn't say anything at all. Nothing.

"Weren't working as closely as we should have with the Europeans ..."

Ugh. The Europeans were making money off Saddam Hussein. Duh.

7 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:56:47am

A talking head and a talking ass.

8 marsl  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:56:55am

For me (i'm a Portuguese), the consequences of a Obama victory would be few.. but for you, American Lizards, the consequences would be disastrous. Not because of Obama, but because of those who are behind him.

9 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:56:57am

Bill. *smack* Stop interrupting him when he's making an ass of himself.

10 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:57:08am

Wasn't there a football game on last night? Vandy beating up on the Gamecocks or something?

11 zombie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:57:17am

I refuse to actually watch it. If O'Reilly fails to rip O'Bama a new lie-hole, then he will have revealed himself to be nothing more than yet another MSM hack.

Tell me how it goes.

12 Racer X  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:57:29am

Bill pretends to be tough, and Obama pretends to be presidential.

13 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:57:31am

I heard a clip of this earlier today, with Obama explaining how the fact that he was completely wrong about the surge proves that he was, er, right. Or something like that.

14 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:57:43am

IMO, this was a setup ... they had Megyn Kelley and Newt Gingrich on with their b&tchslap of the media (Kelley with US, Newt with NBC). Then they had liberal women, who tied themselves up in knots talking about Palin.

Then Obama comes out and OReilly forces "the surge worked beyond his wildest dreams" ... Too bad that the biggest proponent of it was ... McCain and opponent was ... Obama. Then the speeches - I actually wish this preceded Rudy's speech, that would be theater. And don't think that every lib in the country wasn't watching that interview.

15 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:57:50am

Not interested in either of those assholes

16 kynna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:58:08am

O'Reilly agrees that Iraq was the 'wrong battlefield'. I repeat what I said the other day. He is a dullard. With everything we know now, it was very much the RIGHT battlefield.

I say it again. Ugh and Duh. That's for both of them. Twits.

17 sadhu  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:58:39am

heard O'Reilly re: #11 zombie

I refuse to actually watch it.

same

18 Racer X  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:58:44am

re: #11 zombie

Bill revealed himself to be nothing more than yet another MSM hack

19 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:58:53am

re: #3 zombie

O'Bama on O'Reilly? Faith and begorrah, it must be St. Paddy's Day!

Sing!

20 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:59:22am

re: #13 Occasional Reader

I heard a clip of this earlier today, with Obama explaining how the fact that he was completely wrong about the surge proves that he was, er, right. Or something like that.

I watched it. O'Reilly let him spin.

21 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:00:03pm

re: #11 zombie

I refuse to actually watch it. If O'Reilly fails to rip O'Bama a new lie-hole, then he will have revealed himself to be nothing more than yet another MSM hack.

Tell me how it goes.

yep. If Charles can stomach it, I'd love to hear his review. But I won't watch it even on YouTube.

22 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:00:21pm

But O'R is fair with his tie. Neither red nor blue, it is purple.

/

23 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:00:38pm

re: #11 zombie

I refuse to actually watch it. If O'Reilly fails to rip O'Bama a new lie-hole, then he will have revealed himself to be nothing more than yet another MSM hack.

Tell me how it goes.

One big yawn.
Better write another report in the time saved by not watching this ...

Btw (I watched it earlier this morning) - has B0 shrunk?

24 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:00:41pm
25 701c  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:00:46pm

CommonDreams Dissent over Palin

"Do not forget that the Obama groupies were even harsher in their sexist/misogynist attacks of Hillary Clinton than the Republicans were. I can't blame the Republicans for taunting them .... try to do it again with Palin."

26 kynna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:01:05pm

re: #11 zombie

I refuse to actually watch it.

Ack! You're right! I said yesterday I wanted O'Reilly to get tumbleweeds and crickets out of this interview and there I went and watched it.

*head desk*

27 DVAPREZ  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:01:09pm

My teenage son makes a better candidate than Obama, he's got a bunch of community org time on his resume too!

28 so.cal.swede  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:01:26pm

what i find found interesting and funny, is that the Democrats have since 2001 berated GW Bush for going to Iraq "to steal their oil"

In this interview, Obama basically said he wanted to go with O'Reilly to Iraq and get the oil.


SAY WHAT NOW?

29 Spider Mensch  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:02:13pm

hmmph...smug-a-palozza..the moron leading the moronic. here's a clift note version...
oreilly:blahblah bloviate, senator blah, blah.c'mon senator..blah blah"
obamicus:err,ummm,err,ummm, iraq bad..err ummm...

/.75 cents please?

30 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:02:38pm

Obama's refusal to admit he was wrong to vote against the surge was very revealing. He kept harping on the idea that we the Iraqis are not taking the responsibility over there. This despite the fact that we just handed over another territory to them. He just can not accept that he might have been wrong.

31 Dartmouth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:02:59pm

Would've liked to see Bill drill down on Barry O's "present" votes in the Senate. The guy has no backbone when it comes to sticking to your guns.

32 so.cal.swede  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:03:07pm

re: #29 Spider Mensch

hmmph...smug-a-palozza..the moron leading the moronic. here's a clift note version...
oreilly:blahblah bloviate, senator blah, blah.c'mon senator..blah blah"
obamicus:err,ummm,err,ummm, iraq bad..err ummm...

/.75 cents please?

best oreilly impression ever made! "c'mon senator"

33 esch  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:03:45pm

So did oBambi have that 'deer-in-the-headlights' look yet?

I won't watch it.

34 rasachema  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:03:53pm

this does NOT help Barry.

35 NYC_MIke  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:03:55pm

As usual O'Reilly makes it all about him. Personally I thing he's a big phony douchebag - but that's just me!
Two thoughts

About 1 min in Obama says that Iran is a "major" threat.

What OReily SHOULD have followed up with -
"But Senator - a few weeks ago on the campaign trail you said that Iran was not a big threat, since is was such a small country. Why the turnaround?

About a minute later Obama mentioned that he felt we haven't exhausted diplomacy.

What OReily should have said - "Senator, do you really feel Pres Amadenajad (sp) a man who regularly calls for was with the west and the destruction of Israel will be swayed by diplomacy"

Why won't ANYONE in the press - really ask this guy hard, direct questions?
Are they really all afraid of being called racist?

36 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:03:57pm

This man wants to be President? He sure doesn't act Presidential. He's a chump. He will be exposed in the debate. McCain won't let him off the way O'Reilly did.

37 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:04:07pm

re: #30 Ford_Prefect

Obama's refusal to admit he was wrong to vote against the surge was very revealing. He kept harping on the idea that we the Iraqis are not taking the responsibility over there. This despite the fact that we just handed over another territory to them. He just can not accept that he might have been wrong.

Not just any territory. It was Anbar.

38 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:04:15pm

I'd actually rather do laundry than watch those two guys, which is a good thing seeing as I have a lot of laundry to do.

But Barry's internal poll numbers must be terrible for him to agree to do this interview, right?

39 so.cal.swede  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:04:17pm

re: #33 esch

So did oBambi have that 'deer-in-the-headlights' look yet?

I won't watch it.

watch it. Obama admits he wants to go to Iraq and take their oil (money)

40 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:04:26pm

re: #25 701c

"Do not forget that the Obama groupies were even harsher in their sexist/misogynist attacks of Hillary Clinton than the Republicans were.

And correspondingly, in a MSM piece about racism showing up in Obama opponents, every simple example they had was either a Hillary supporter or unknown. And, for example, one of the unknowns was a union boss. You guess if he ususally votes Republican.

41 LegendXXX  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:04:41pm

Until or unless he asks the question that NEEDS asking and refuses to accept a non-answer, I'll have ZERO respect for Bill the walking ego. That question is:

On (insert date) you said (insert statement - "pull out of NAFTA" for instance) and on (insert other date) you said (insert contradictory statement). Were you lying then or are you lying now?

He didn't do it with Clinton and I'm sure he didn't do it with Obama. He's an ass.

42 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:05:08pm

re: #34 rasachema

this does NOT help Barry.

How about Michelle's children?

43 701c  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:05:08pm

Chicken Hawk!

44 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:05:09pm

re: #35 NYC_MIke

As usual O'Reilly makes it all about him. Personally I thing he's a big phony douchebag - but that's just me!
Two thoughts

About 1 min in Obama says that Iran is a "major" threat.

What OReily SHOULD have followed up with -
"But Senator - a few weeks ago on the campaign trail you said that Iran was not a big threat, since is was such a small country. Why the turnaround?

About a minute later Obama mentioned that he felt we haven't exhausted diplomacy.

What OReily should have said - "Senator, do you really feel Pres Amadenajad (sp) a man who regularly calls for was with the west and the destruction of Israel will be swayed by diplomacy"

Why won't ANYONE in the press - really ask this guy hard, direct questions?
Are they really all afraid of being called racist?

ShortShit's easier to spell.

45 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:05:11pm

It's impossible to have a decent interview with Obama because he never stops spinning. And to have O'Reilly do the interviewing? Come on. To quote a Lizard from yesterday, he's got his nose so far up Obama's butt he can smell arugula.

46 kynna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:05:11pm

re: #30 Ford_Prefect

Obama's refusal to admit he was wrong to vote against the surge was very revealing. He kept harping on the idea that we the Iraqis are not taking the responsibility over there. This despite the fact that we just handed over another territory to them. He just can not accept that he might have been wrong.

It's a privilege of the left to never admit to being wrong and to pursue failed policies for eternity. Because they care.

47 Bobibutu  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:05:33pm

re: #11 zombie

I refuse to actually watch it. If O'Reilly fails to rip O'Bama a new lie-hole, then he will have revealed himself to be nothing more than yet another MSM hack.

Tell me how it goes.

I'm with you - I have watched/listened to 0bama in the past ... he says nothing ... the clouds will part ... and all the rest. BS

48 Piglet-U93  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:05:45pm

Obama said (in this interview) Islam has been "perverted" by the terrorists. He is copying Bush so its really more of the same, yes?

Do you know of any real moderate Muslims who abhore terrorism that do not have a fatwa death threat on them? Chew on that.

The largest Muslim anti-terror demonstration (since 9/11) against Islamic Jihad had a total of 50 people. Swallow that one.

49 so.cal.swede  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:06:15pm

Glenn Beck vs. Obama


DISCUSS!

50 hazzyday  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:06:33pm

re: #16 kynna

O'Reilly agrees that Iraq was the 'wrong battlefield'. I repeat what I said the other day. He is a dullard. With everything we know now, it was very much the RIGHT battlefield.

I say it again. Ugh and Duh. That's for both of them. Twits.

I think Iraq is the perfect place to fight AL Quaida and it's supporters. Good logistics, geo poltical impact, and a meshing of cultures. The big war next door has an impact on a lot of people.

51 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:06:50pm

I know what Obama is, and nothing he could say would change my opinion of him. And I don't know enough about O'Reilly to really care to have an opinion of him.

52 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:06:52pm

Come on people. Some of you that are saying you won't watch Bill probably watch CNN or MSNBC or go to KOS to see what they are saying. I know O'Reilly is a blowhard and often very annoying, but he also has some good points on occasion. Is there something I don't know about that causes this dislike?

53 calcajun  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:07:34pm

OK-this is a political opportunist. He is saying the things he knows will appeal to what he thinks is O'Reilly's audience. I still say BHO is Chance the Gardener.

54 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:08:01pm

re: #35 NYC_MIke

Why won't ANYONE in the press - really ask this guy hard, direct questions?
Are they really all afraid of being called racist?


Yes. You asking why no one will ask hard, direct questions is racist.
/

55 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:08:19pm

re: #37 MandyManners

Not just any territory. It was Anbar.

Which brings us to our bonus question:

Who is a better "community organizer", Barack Obama or David Petraeus?

56 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:08:35pm

I think the Sarah 'barracuda' video is no longer on Youtube. It still is at floppingaces but not on youtube.
Interesting

57 Spenser (with an S)  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:08:39pm

So, does anyone have any facts to refute or put into context the statement that the Iraqis are selling lots of oil and not paying their past or current obligations to us?

58 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:09:15pm

re: #37 MandyManners

Not just any territory. It was Anbar.

That's it! Couldn't remember the name...

Clue bat please.

59 LegendXXX  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:09:18pm

re: #44 MandyManners

ShortShit's easier to spell.

Or Ahmadinnerjacket

60 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:09:22pm

re: #25 701c

Um, calling Sarah Palin the Spiro Agnew of 1968 is not a compliment.

61 kynna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:09:28pm

re: #50 hazzyday

I think Iraq is the perfect place to fight AL Quaida and it's supporters. Good logistics, geo poltical impact, and a meshing of cultures. The big war next door has an impact on a lot of people.

Exactly. They keep saying it was the 'wrong battlefield' but they have never explained why. Because that would pin them down and they couldn't spin. The whys are so darn vague they can change with the wind. That may make a good politician or talk show host but it sure doesn't make a good president.

62 zombie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:09:40pm

Did he ask this question:

"Senator Obama, is it true that you had your first political "coming out party" in the home of William Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, who sponsored your first political run for office, and who referred to you as "our man"? Wasn't Ayers once described as your "political mentor"? Were you unaware of their political affiliations at the time? And do you categorically and publicly now repudiate Ayers and Dorhn and everything they stand for?"

If not, then I don't want to hear about it.

63 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:09:45pm

re: #60 funky chicken

ech Spiro Agnew of 2008

64 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:10:05pm

re: #55 Occasional Reader

Which brings us to our bonus question:

Who is a better "community organizer", Barack Obama or David Petraeus?

Obama counts running his campaign as administrative experience. Talk about a circular argument.

65 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:10:06pm

re: #46 kynna

It's a privilege of the left to never admit to being wrong and to pursue failed policies for eternity. Because they care.

Too bad they don't care about being right.

66 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:10:25pm

re: #8 marsl

For me (i'm a Portuguese), the consequences of a Obama victory would be few.. but for you, American Lizards, the consequences would be disastrous. Not because of Obama, but because of those who are behind him.

Precisely. It's the same reason I voted against John Kerry - not because I like Bush, but because I saw all the raving nutcases out on the streets, and all the Clinton operatives in the back rooms, waiting in the wings to repeat 1992-2000. No thanks.

Marxism cannot win a U.S. Presidency. Please, G-d, we can't have it.

67 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:10:58pm

re: #62 zombie

Did he ask this question:

"Senator Obama, is it true that you had your first political "coming out party" in the home of William Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, who sponsored your first political run for office, and who referred to you as "our man"? Wasn't Ayers once described as your "political mentor"? Were you unaware of their political affiliations at the time? And do you categorically and publicly now repudiate Ayers and Dorhn and everything they stand for?"

No, he did not ask.

68 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:11:17pm

re: #62 zombie

Did he ask this question:

"Senator Obama, is it true that you had your first political "coming out party" in the home of William Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, who sponsored your first political run for office, and who referred to you as "our man"? Wasn't Ayers once described as your "political mentor"? Were you unaware of their political affiliations at the time? And do you categorically and publicly now repudiate Ayers and Dorhn and everything they stand for?"

If not, then I don't want to hear about it.

How about 10 short questions starting with "When did you meet William Ayers?"

How many times did he interview you before hiring you to be the executive director of his Chicago Annenberg Challenge?

and proceed from there.....

69 wintercat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:11:27pm

re: #8 marsl

You, my friend, are a very astute person. It is the people behind Obama that concern me greatly too. However, I must correct you on your first statement. I would not underestimate the impact of the demise of capitalism in America. If America falls to socialism/communism (and I believe under Obama the transition will be rapid and complete) there is no telling what will happen to the rest of the world.

70 kuffar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:11:54pm

He is an empty, stage handed suit who has formed around him a cabal of ne'er-do-wells, criminals, thugs, left wing wackos, religious nutjobs (some for 20 years) and communists.

It is amazing he might get elected.

Donna Brazile said if he is elected nothing is going to change... Hmmm.

RICO investigations.

71 SummerSong  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:12:01pm

Barack gesticulates well beyond his personal space.

72 last call  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:12:03pm

interesting how obama thought that it wouldn't be prudent for the president to tip his hand with regards to any military action with iran [2:39 in]. unless i'm mistaken, we've had over 7 years of leakage from known and unknown sources - with the aim of sabotaging the bush administration.

73 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:12:13pm

re: #62 zombie

Did he ask this question:

"Senator Obama, is it true that you had your first political "coming out party" in the home of William Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, who sponsored your first political run for office, and who referred to you as "our man"? Wasn't Ayers once described as your "political mentor"? Were you unaware of their political affiliations at the time? And do you categorically and publicly now repudiate Ayers and Dorhn and everything they stand for?"

If not, then I don't want to hear about it.

Not in this instalment - but there will be more next week, and he says they'll be 'meatier' or something like that ...

74 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:13:19pm

re: #68 funky chicken

How about 10 short questions starting with "When did you meet William Ayers?"

How many times did he interview you before hiring you to be the executive director of his Chicago Annenberg Challenge?

and proceed from there.....

The interview is being stretched over four nights. Supposedly he gets to the Ayers questions on Tuesday.

75 scofflaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:13:36pm
"The surge succeeded beyond everyone's wildest imagination."

What BHO is trying to say is "McCain was for it but didn't think it would work either so our views were really no different." McCain just got lucky... essentially, "he called heads, I called tails no one could have known that heads was going to come up though." How pathetic. He even says in the interview that McCain/Bush didn't think the surge would have worked this well.

76 701c  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:13:37pm

re: #40 Silhouette

And correspondingly, in a MSM piece about racism showing up in Obama opponents, every simple example they had was either a Hillary supporter or unknown. And, for example, one of the unknowns was a union boss. You guess if he ususally votes Republican.

How about this?

"Wow, just as I figured the charges of Misogyny are starting to fly just like they were when Hillary was running. I honestly don't know which is worse: The Naderites or Uber-feminists. Even here on CD an attack, not on her person, but on her stand on the issues will is met with words like "bigot" and "misogynist".

To me this has nothing to do with her being a woman and everything to do with her being a right-wing asshole."

77 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:13:41pm

re: #36 HelloDare

This man wants to be President? He sure doesn't act Presidential. He's a chump. He will be exposed in the debate. McCain won't let him off the way O'Reilly did.

This man wants to be the leader of the free world? Free for how long?

-- Zell Miller

78 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:13:44pm

re: #73 yma o hyd

Not in this instalment - but there will be more next week, and he says they'll be 'meatier' or something like that ...


Good grief! With both of them yakking at the same time, they sucked all the oxygen from the room! *wheeze*

79 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:13:54pm

When I read the below report that last night's interruption was conspired by operative(s) at MSNBC, I came to the conclusion that NBC may be guilty of contributing to criminal violations that should put their license in jeopardy. Enough is enough. This network is now violating FCC by actively campaigning for a political party. Is anyone listening? It is time to fight.

Report:

Did the Code Pink members who interrupted John McCain's speech last night use MSNBC press badges to get into the hall? Not according to Code Pink itself, which claims the two women "obtained passes to the convention from disaffected Republicans."

Right.

There is another much more intriguing explanation out there. According to Shay at Booker Rising, which describes itself a newsite for black moderates and black conservatives [emphasis added]:


I took the shuttle bus back to Minneapolis, and I overheard a convention organizer named Phil telling a convention delegate that the protesters on Wednesday night got through because of media credentials that were traced back to MSNBC (he told her that each credential has an individual bar code for each convention invitee). They suspect MSNBC this time as well.

80 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:14:11pm

re: #16 kynna

I completely agree. All of the terrorists killed in Iraq had to be killed somewhere. Better Iraq than, say, Florida. Iraq was a festering boil that needed to be lanced for the good of everyone concerned. Except the al Qaeda types and their fellow travelers. The latter would include the Democrat Party.

81 Colin Nelson  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:14:31pm

Right OHB. Put more pressure on Pakistan or, we'll cut all military (and other) aid.
Oh yea!
Please tell me just what pressure would work in a radically islamic country of 170 million with nuclear weapons that hates the West and the USA in particular and almost forgot, with an intelligence service that comprises one third of the armed forces, the ISI, which in fact helped create the Taliban.

Good luck with that pressure.

And oh yea, just what are you going to do after you cut off the military and other aid?

Another prime example of the folly of style over substance.

82 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:14:53pm

re: #77 midwestgak

I just listened to that Zell Miller speech again. Great.

83 Cato  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:14:59pm

Please note that while Obama would not take the military option off the table, he wouldn't say he would prepare for it. Isn't that what makes the option effect, if your enemy knows you are prepared to do something to them?

84 LegendXXX  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:15:01pm

re: #69 wintercat

You, my friend, are a very astute person. It is the people behind Obama that concern me greatly too. However, I must correct you on your first statement. I would not underestimate the impact of the demise of capitalism in America. If America falls to socialism/communism (and I believe under Obama the transition will be rapid and complete) there is no telling what will happen to the rest of the world.

I disagree. I think America is strong enough to survive 4-8 years of BO. It would hurt though...

85 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:15:04pm

re: #7 MrSilverDragon

A talking head and a talking ass.

Two of each.

86 rasachema  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:15:16pm

re: #42 Silhouette

well, I think all children are beautiful, but Barry is a duma$$ and fell for this trick. his cook base never wanted him on FNC.

87 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:15:32pm

Leave Bill O'Reilly alone. LEAVE HIM ALONE!
/

88 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:15:36pm

HAH! The NYT already notes where the real fight is, and that Obama has already lost the media.

The real battle?

It's Hillary v. Palin.

The candidate that the Democrats (and the NYT among others) shafted versus Palin, the most popular politician in the nation. It's not even about Obama v. McCain. McCain's maverick choice has totally screwed with the media and the Democrats in ways I'm just beginning to enjoy.

Popcorn anyone?

89 cliffster  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:15:45pm

I think Bill-O handles the high-profile politicians with kid gloves, as he has to if he ever wants to have any more on his show. So they usually get off relatively unscathed. I think he was equally gentle with BO, but BO still came off looking pretty foolish. Imagine if Bill gave him the treatment he gives to those he doesn't have to suck up to?

90 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:15:49pm

re: #85 Son of the Black Dog

Two of each.

Precisely. :)

91 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:16:10pm

re: #74 Ford_Prefect

The interview is being stretched over four nights. Supposedly he gets to the Ayers questions on Tuesday.

I wouldn't bank on it ...

But here's an odd thing which struck me: Murdoch - alledgedly - supports B0.
His papers in the UK (The SUN, The Times) seem to be quite enamoured with Sarah Palin. Its interesting because other MSM (and the Beeb) are fully in the B0 camp.

92 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:16:29pm

re: #9 Fat Jolly Penguin

Bill. *smack* Stop interrupting him when he's making an ass of himself.

Bill stop talking? Are you kidding?

93 JohnSteele  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:16:37pm

O'Reilly talks like he doesn't take any BS, and he doesn't. He presses hard for straight answers and doesn't let people fumble their way out of his questions --- provided its Maude Smith from Long Island or Tom Jones from Iowa. But anyone who is "important" always get a pass from O'Reilly. He never follows-up to press for the truth or what's really behind an answer when its one of America's "princes" in the box.

And, like the blatter on the Sunday talk shows the reason is the same --- he wants the "prince" to come back on the show so he cuts them plenty of slack so they don't make fools out of themselves. Remember, p*ss them off and they avoid your show. Truth and information for, what O'Reilly likes to call "the folks", is the furthest thing from his mind.

If O'Reilly used the same technique on Obama that Megyn Kelly did on the weasel from "Us Weekly" Obama would have to withdraw from the race. O'Reilly is just hot air.

94 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:16:37pm

re: #52 Ford_Prefect

How about the fact that he has been kissing up to Obama on his radio show since at least March or April? I used to catch it while driving my kids to their afternoon activities.

In addition, how about the fact that he chose to announce and air his interview on the same day as McCain's acceptance speech? I heard him give many callers the brush off when they would try to bring up the Chicago Annenberg Challenge way back in May. It's September now, and apparently nobody on his staff bothered to do any research on it?

If I want to watch BarryO publicity I can watch MSNBC.

95 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:16:51pm

re: #92 Son of the Black Dog

Bill stop talking? Are you kidding?

I stand corrected.

96 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:16:52pm

re: #64 HelloDare

Obama counts running his campaign as administrative experience. Talk about a circular argument.

He's not running his campaign. His campaign manager is running it.

97 reggie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:16:56pm

re: #62 zombie

Did he ask this question:

"Senator Obama, is it true that you had your first political "coming out party" in the home of William Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, who sponsored your first political run for office, and who referred to you as "our man"? Wasn't Ayers once described as your "political mentor"? Were you unaware of their political affiliations at the time? And do you categorically and publicly now repudiate Ayers and Dorhn and everything they stand for?"

If not, then I don't want to hear about it.

If not, then you SHOULD want to hear about. All about it. All day, all night, all networks. Yes, by all means let everyone hear this sham defend his shameful position. It's the only thing that can damage him more than Palin can.

98 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:17:02pm

re: #82 HelloDare

I have listened to it on occasion for the past 4 years. Have a lot of it permanently imprinted on my brain.

Against! Against! Against!

:)

99 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:17:13pm

re: #75 scofflaw

He even says in the interview that McCain/Bush didn't think the surge would have worked this well.

For some reason I'm reminded of Homer Simpson growling "stupid, sexy Flanders!"

But then, LOTS of things remind me of "The Simpsons".

100 Guy_Montag  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:17:21pm

I thought it was an interesting segment. Bill came off as very aggressive, which was a mistake I believe. And Barack made some comments that need to be deciphered -- everything he says needs to be deciphered. He’s a very slick politician, very Clintonian. I need to watch it a few times, he may have mentioned Government Cheese and a Five-Year Plan; I don't recall.

101 beens21  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:17:39pm

re: #62 zombie

O'Reilly said that those topics will come up next Tue.

102 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:18:07pm

re: #8 marsl

Right from the start I was suspicious of who was behind Obama, because of all the co-ordinated and instantly appearing signs, bumper stickers, book, and media coverage. It was orchestrated by whom? No-one would claim that.

Certainly the regular common people weren't behind him, and I felt very manipulated.

103 Asmodeus  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:18:28pm

You can clearly see that Mr. Barely is aging from the process. However, from the follow-up question about Iran being a major component of terrorism, you can clearly see the gears working in Mr. Barely's vacuous head to try and spin this to the point that saying Iran isn't a part of the same terrorist network, which is clearly is under the Bush Doctrine Axis of evil. Aside from the fact that they fund Hizballah and HAMAS, this bufoon wants to downplay that Iran has been calling for the death of America since 1977. This douche is an outgrowth of Jimmy Carter's failed foreign policy and you can see it in the way he tries to nuance his way to a non-answer answer.

104 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:19:03pm

re: #87 Slumbering Behemoth

Leave Bill O'Reilly alone. LEAVE HIM ALONE!
/

*whack*

105 Spider Mensch  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:19:11pm

re: #83 Cato

Please note that while Obama would not take the military option off the table, he wouldn't say he would prepare for it. Isn't that what makes the option effect, if your enemy knows you are prepared to do something to them?


hows he going to prepare when he plans to cut the military to carter levels or worse? can obama make thanksgiving dinner with 2 saltines and 3 olives? well he is the messiah, 5 loaves and 3 fishes and obama can feed the multitudes I forgot..

/eye roll

106 cblesz  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:19:15pm

O'Reilly is full of crap. He was soft and let him off the hook. he also says that he asks him about Ayers, Wright, Rezko, etc and it is interesting. Sure, it is Bill...we shall see. I am sure you gave him a chance to get off the hook and put it to bed. Wait for the "OIL COMPANIES ARE EEEEEVIL"

107 cliffster  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:19:16pm

re: #64 HelloDare

Obama counts running his campaign as administrative experience. Talk about a circular argument.

I suppose arguing with the voices in his head counts as foreign policy experience, too?

108 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:19:18pm

re: #78 scottishbuzzsaw

Good grief! With both of them yakking at the same time, they sucked all the oxygen from the room! *wheeze*

Dunno if youv'e got any rottweiler-types doing political interviews on TV - here we've got one, and Englishman by name of Jeremy Paxman.
Pity he like the other Beeb guys are so enamoured with the LLL agenda ...

109 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:19:26pm

When he talks about the 10s of billions of dollars in aid we "wasted" to give to Pakistan, how else would he have gained access to land locked Afghanistan, (which he said was the only war worth waging) without violating Pakistani airspace?

I am not even a military type and I can figure this stuff out.

110 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:19:26pm
111 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:20:10pm

re: #109 rawmuse

how else would he have gained access to land locked Afghanistan, (which he said was the only war worth waging) without violating Pakistani airspace?

We'd invade Pakistan, silly!

/

112 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:20:10pm
The oil market is starting to suffer from oversupply, the Libyan National Oil Corporation (NOC) chairman said on Friday, days before a key OPEC meeting on crude output levels.

"The market is well served and has even started to suffer from oversupply," said Shukri Ghanem, who also acts as the country's oil minister, adding that the Organisation of Oil Exporting Countries (OPEC) aimed to balance supply and demand.

"Prices have lowered and the supply is exceeding demand. The role of OPEC is to maintain the balance," he told AFP ahead of a meeting of the oil cartel in Vienna on Tuesday.

"But we are not going to make decisions before studying the the market situation," the economic committee report and the opinions of member countries, he added.

Oil prices fell below 105 dollars on Friday with Brent North Sea crude for delivery in October dropping 1.45 dollars to 104.85 dollars a barrel in electronic deals.

New York's main contract, light sweet crude for October, fell 1.49 dollars to 106.40 dollars a barrel.

OPEC will meet amid speculation that the group, which produces 40 percent of the world's oil, may decide to cut output as prices edge toward 100 dollars.

Many analysts expect oil prices to continue to fall because of fears of recession in the United States and Europe.

Crude oil, which hit a record high 147.27 dollars on July 11 in New York, has lost nearly 40 dollars in less than two months.

Oil prices had broken through 100 dollars a barrel for the first time at the start of January on geo-political concerns, notably surrounding the ongoing nuclear power dispute between the West and Iran, which is a major producer and exporter of crude oil.


MUST. STOP. BAD. WORDS. FROM. ESCAPING...

113 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:20:15pm

re: #84 LegendXXX

We're still not over 4 years of Jimmy Carter. Obama promises that he will be worse.

114 701c  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:20:20pm

I think Obama did a good job of not looking like a liberal.

115 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:21:02pm

I think he's added silver to his hair again.

116 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:21:15pm

re: #62 zombie

He told Newt Gingrich that in the second installment on Monday night he did ask about Ayers ... I wonder if he asks about the cover up?

But giving Obama the chance to answer isn't the way to nail the guy ... He's a Chicago politician - he's crafty. He beat his last 2 opponents by his version of October surprises. I think the interview just shows how average he is, and that is good. Now Karl Rove has to get the machine running for his October surprise.

117 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:21:21pm

re: #30 Ford_Prefect

This is something that has fascinated me about the left for decades.
They cannot admit that they were ever wrong about anything.
LEFT means never having to say you're sorry.

118 zombie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:21:30pm

re: #101 beens21

O'Reilly said that those topics will come up next Tue.

I'll believe it when I hear it. I suspect they will be softball versions of the Ayers questions, designed to let Obama talk his way out of them.

119 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:21:41pm

re: #104 MandyManners

Harder! Harder!

120 protestshooter  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:22:06pm

re: #62 zombie

Chainsaws at the Berkeley Oak Grove! If you haven't made it down there yet, I'm sure it's going to be going on for quite a while. They're taking their time and doing it safely.

[Link: www.protestshooter.com...]

(I'm off to lunch now)

121 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:22:27pm

re: #79 wright1

Credit where credit's due: Blogger: RNC Organizer Said Protesters Had MSNBC Badges

122 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:23:16pm

re: #88 lawhawk

HAH! The NYT already notes where the real fight is, and that Obama has already lost the media.

The real battle?

It's Hillary v. Palin.

The candidate that the Democrats (and the NYT among others) shafted versus Palin, the most popular politician in the nation. It's not even about Obama v. McCain. McCain's maverick choice has totally screwed with the media and the Democrats in ways I'm just beginning to enjoy.

Popcorn anyone?

Is Hilary dumb enough to push her negatives even higher? If she really comes out strong against Palin, I think it proves that she doesn't intend to run for POTUS again. It also would indicate that she has her eye on Senate Majority Leader. The more "loyal" she appears to the democrat ticket, the stronger her case to depose Harry Reid.

123 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:23:24pm

re: #119 Slumbering Behemoth

Harder! Harder!


Since yuou feel that way, ---- NO!

124 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:23:51pm

re: #89 cliffster

I think Bill-O handles the high-profile politicians with kid gloves, as he has to if he ever wants to have any more on his show. So they usually get off relatively unscathed. I think he was equally gentle with BO, but BO still came off looking pretty foolish. Imagine if Bill gave him the treatment he gives to those he doesn't have to suck up to?

Do you really want him to treat Obama with the same disrespect he shows some of the other people he has on the show? Like it or not, the man may end up being our next President. None of us would be too happy if one of the liberal nutjobs out there treated McCain with obvious disrespect. Bill did try several times to get Obama to admit he had made a mistake on the surge, but Obama just wasn't going to do it. What is O'Reilly supposed to do? Get into a screaming match with the guy? He made his point by making it clear the Obama was refusing to admit the mistake and then he moved on.

125 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:24:40pm

re: #83 Cato

Please note that while Obama would not take the military option off the table, he wouldn't say he would prepare for it. Isn't that what makes the option effect, if your enemy knows you are prepared to do something to them?

Yep, 'tis so!

I think back to McCain's specch last night, when he said he hated war, after he'd talked about his family's and his sacrifices.
He made a pause - it was dead quiet, and everybody who wasn't a moron knew that McCain of all people did not have to say 'but we'll fight with all we have if we must'.

For me, that was the 'speak softly but carry a big stick'- moment ...

Huge difference to B0 blathering on about military options on tables!

126 JohnSteele  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:24:42pm

re: #8 marsl

For me (i'm a Portuguese), the consequences of a Obama victory would be few.. but for you, American Lizards, the consequences would be disastrous. Not because of Obama, but because of those who are behind him.

Don't be too sure of that. The consequences for us will be staggering and immediate. The consequences for you will just be down the road a bit.

If America is emasculated the rest of the free world is in serious trouble, politically and economically.

127 cliffster  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:25:00pm

re: #124 Ford_Prefect

Do you really want him to treat Obama with the same disrespect he shows some of the other people he has on the show? Like it or not, the man may end up being our next President. None of us would be too happy if one of the liberal nutjobs out there treated McCain with obvious disrespect. Bill did try several times to get Obama to admit he had made a mistake on the surge, but Obama just wasn't going to do it. What is O'Reilly supposed to do? Get into a screaming match with the guy? He made his point by making it clear the Obama was refusing to admit the mistake and then he moved on.

I didn't say I wanted him to treat him with the same disrespect, I said he didn't, and Obama still came off looking foolish.

128 hazzyday  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:25:04pm

re: #110 Ben Hur

Top 7 Myths, Lies and Untruths About Sarah Palin

An important web site. Needs to be the top 100 myths now.

I wonder if anyone has annotated the Obama connnection to dailykos yet? Obama is full of dirty political tricks.

129 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:25:26pm

re: #119 Slumbering Behemoth

Harder! Harder!

No.

130 Cato  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:25:26pm

On Palin and the Enquirer:

[Link: news.spreadit.org...]


Please note this is NOT on the Enquirer site. Time for Charles to figure out if some scoundrel did this.

131 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:25:28pm

re: #76 701c

How about this?

"Wow, just as I figured the charges of Misogyny are starting to fly just like they were when Hillary was running. I honestly don't know which is worse: The Naderites or Uber-feminists. Even here on CD an attack, not on her person, but on her stand on the issues will is met with words like "bigot" and "misogynist".

To me this has nothing to do with her being a woman and everything to do with her being a right-wing asshole."

If indeed honest non-gender-related criticisms of Palin are being met with accusations of sexism, then I'd have to agree with the writer that that would be wrong.

However, I've yet to see any of that. In a world as big as ours, I've no doubt that somewhere, someone on some blog posting made such a silly argument, but overall, I have NOT seen Palin being given that protected status.

I have seen genuine sexist attacks about Palin (why isn't she home with the kids, who will give Trig the care he needs, will she have time to serve, she just got where she is because she's a woman) where the attackers may not think they are being sexist, and therefore feel unjustly accused when they are called on it.

132 701c  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:25:58pm

I wish Obama was a conservative.

133 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:05pm

re: #8 marsl

For me (i'm a Portuguese), the consequences of a Obama victory would be few.. but for you, American Lizards, the consequences would be disastrous. Not because of Obama, but because of those who are behind him.

Obrigado por seu apoio e perspicácia!

134 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:10pm

re: #122 funky chicken

Maybe, just maybe, we can make that Senate Minority Leader. We really only have to shift the balence by one if we hold the Presidency. Wouldn't that just be precious?

135 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:17pm

re: #121 doppelganglander

Credit where credit's due: Blogger: RNC Organizer Said Protesters Had MSNBC Badges

Didn't know that - thanks, hat tip there - I am still angry as hell though!

136 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:28pm

re: #10 Fenway_Nation

Wasn't there a football game on last night? Vandy beating up on the Gamecocks or something?

The Nittally Lions are playing tomorrow. Or so Obama says.

137 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:30pm

re: #52 Ford_Prefect

Come on people. Some of you that are saying you won't watch Bill probably watch CNN or MSNBC or go to KOS to see what they are saying. I know O'Reilly is a blowhard and often very annoying, but he also has some good points on occasion. Is there something I don't know about that causes this dislike?

Well, he is a blowhard and very annoying. Also a bully who is in rapture at the sound of his own voice and frequently won't let his guests finish a statement even when they aren't spinning their points.

And furthermore, he's got it in for the SBVFT, and never fails to say that what they said about Kerry has been "discredited". I was never on a swift-boat, but I spent a lot of time in Vietnam and I know that Kerry is a lying POS and the swift-boat veterans got it right.

/rant off now!

138 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:38pm

re: #96 MandyManners

He's not running his campaign. His campaign manager is running it.

Yeah, Axelrod. Everybody says how well his campaign has been run. But the campaign for President really starts now. Let's see how well they do now.

139 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:42pm

re: #120 protestshooter

Tree sitters are terrified of guys in hard hats. Not just because of what they do to the grove, but because they represent the jobs they might have to get some day.

LOL! Poor babies...

140 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:42pm

A Palin convert
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

141 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:45pm

re: #116 Celtic Templar

Now Karl Rove has to get the machine running for his October surprise.

I forgot about that October surprise. He'll be able to come up with something juicy - so much about OB is lurking under some spider hole somewhere. Gotta be.

142 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:50pm

re: #123 Panhandler

re: #129 MandyManners

Teases, the both of you.
/s

143 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:27:00pm

re: #124 Ford_Prefect

I think people miss the point that O'Reilly is generally despised by the left. The sympathy that Obama would engender if O'Reilly attacked him would be noticeable. To me, the interview made Obama look average, like he was repeating talking points and really had no clue about foreign policy. There was not "there" there. But who is O'Reilly's normal audience, in general - center-right to right, I think. However, Obama on O'Reilly brings more center, center-left viewers. And Obama wasn't the godchild that they had heard he would be. Just another politician out of Chicago.

144 mattm  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:27:38pm

But he will go after Bin Laden, which will solve everything from Terroism, which doesn't exist and Global warming.

/sarc

145 zombie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:27:38pm

re: #120 protestshooter

Chainsaws at the Berkeley Oak Grove! If you haven't made it down there yet, I'm sure it's going to be going on for quite a while. They're taking their time and doing it safely.

[Link: www.protestshooter.com...]

(I'm off to lunch now)

Oooh! Though, unfortunately, I'm busy as hell today and can't make it over there. Thanks for notifying me.

146 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:27:39pm

Obama said the surge worked beyond anyone's wildest dreams thus including everyone in his position of doubt. And as Sarah Palin pointed out today, Obama was wrong about the surge and wrong about "everyone" being surprised that it worked so well. Only he and the Democrats were surprised.

147 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:27:49pm

Ah fuck, I should have read that

148 Cato  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:27:50pm

re: #125 yma o hyd


I wish O'Reily had asked him an easy question like: "Mr. Obama, which is bigger, a regiment or a battalion?"

BHO doesn't know. I don't know. But McCain would know.

149 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:27:58pm

re: #117 wolfie

This is something that has fascinated me about the left for decades.
They cannot admit that they were ever wrong about anything.
LEFT means never having to say you're sorry.

And they never promised us a rose garden.

150 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:28:07pm

re: #93 JohnSteele

I guarantee you he'd be tougher on McCain. Of course McCain would put him in his place....but still.

151 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:28:09pm

1. It’s important to have a woman, who helps at home, who cooks from time to time, cleans up and has a job.

2. It’s important to have a woman, who can make you laugh.

3. It’s important to have a woman, who you can trust and who doesn’t lie to you.

4. It’s important to have a woman, who is good in bed and who likes to be with you.

5. It’s very, very important that these four women do not know each other.

152 Land Shark  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:28:23pm

My problem with O'Reilly is that he's such a bloated, pompous douche bag. I didn't watch it 'cause if I had seen these two pompous egotistical a-holes my dinner would have come up big time. Besides, there was some NFL football to watch, baby!

153 Winmag  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:28:53pm

BO and BO;Both using each other for their own ends.

154 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:28:56pm

re: #120 protestshooter

Chainsaws at the Berkeley Oak Grove! If you haven't made it down there yet, I'm sure it's going to be going on for quite a while. They're taking their time and doing it safely.

[Link: www.protestshooter.com...]

(I'm off to lunch now)

Those trees are going to have to go to a hazardous landfill now. They're covered in hippie cooties.

155 beens21  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:29:09pm

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...] and O'Reilly should ask about Ayers' wife also.

156 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:29:21pm

re: #147 Sparkizzy

Ah fuck, I should have read that


Yeah, the 'convert' is donating to BHO...

157 redbeard20  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:29:37pm

I thought it was a good interview. A good amount of interrogative pressure.

158 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:29:55pm

re: #115 MandyManners

I think he's added silver to his hair again.

He definitely lost weight - his suit looked loose - and i loathe the way he tries to touch O'Reilly, but then, thats what community organisers do to show they ahve empathy ...

159 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:29:58pm

re: #148 Cato

A battalion is part of a regiment.

160 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:30:10pm

If running for president makes you qualified to be president, Ralph Nader is the most qualified candidate.

161 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:30:13pm

re: #146 ciaospirit

Obama said the surge worked beyond anyone's wildest dreams thus including everyone in his position of doubt. And as Sarah Palin pointed out today, Obama was wrong about the surge and wrong about "everyone" being surprised that it worked so well. Only he and the Democrats were surprised.

You know, the O'Reilly [first part] interview was worth it for that quote - you have no idea how many of the kook fringe's heads exploded when he conceded that. No more Bush lied, yada yada

162 701c  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:30:17pm

re: #131 Silhouette

If indeed honest non-gender-related criticisms of Palin are being met with accusations of sexism, then I'd have to agree with the writer that that would be wrong.

However, I've yet to see any of that. In a world as big as ours, I've no doubt that somewhere, someone on some blog posting made such a silly argument, but overall, I have NOT seen Palin being given that protected status.

I have seen genuine sexist attacks about Palin (why isn't she home with the kids, who will give Trig the care he needs, will she have time to serve, she just got where she is because she's a woman) where the attackers may not think they are being sexist, and therefore feel unjustly accused when they are called on it.

I was saying there is never dissent over at CommonDreams One dissenting comment can get you kicked off the blog.

163 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:30:28pm

re: #31 Dartmouth

Would've liked to see Bill drill down on Barry O's "present" votes in the Senate. The guy has no backbone when it comes to sticking to your guns.

He tanked against Michael Moore, too. "Looking out for you", my ass.

164 reggie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:30:30pm

re: #64 HelloDare

Obama counts running his campaign as administrative experience. Talk about a circular argument.

I think I am President, therefore I am President.

165 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:30:33pm

re: #114 701c

I think Obama did a good job of not looking like a liberal.

Did you watch the same thing I did?re: #132 701c

I wish Obama was a conservative.

I think you need a sarc "/" tag there.

166 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:31:29pm
167 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:31:36pm

re: #164 reggie

I think I am President, therefore I am President.

Cartesian Politics!

168 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:31:44pm

re: #132 701c

I wish Obama was a conservative.

Why?

169 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:31:52pm

I seem to remember the Obama camp threatening that if McCain announced his VP nominee during the DNC, it would be "political malpractice". In other words, it's not proper to rain on someone else's convention. Yet Obama had no problem going on O'reilly on McCain's big night. Obama's a chronic liar.

170 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:32:06pm

re: #164 reggie

I think I am President, therefore I am President.


That's the SECRET he's learned from his other spiritual mentor, Oprah.

That's what's behind the faux pres seal, the "O" force one, the columns, the speech in Germany.

You can do it Duffy Moon!

171 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:33:07pm

re: #148 Cato

I wish O'Reily had asked him an easy question like: "Mr. Obama, which is bigger, a regiment or a battalion?"

BHO doesn't know. I don't know. But McCain would know.

Start with the simple questions. What state are you in? How many states are there anyway? Did more than one bomb land on Pearl Harbor? Who has veto power in the UNSC?

172 LegendXXX  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:33:21pm

re: #113 Iron Fist

I said it would hurt...

173 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:33:32pm

Happy TGIF, Lizards!

174 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:02pm

re: #166 taxfreekiller

uh,
ya
uh,
ya

commercial break

uh,
ya
uh,
ya

commercial break

Love ya
ta ta

commercial break

Now now, that's unfair; he did manage to get 2 or 3 more words in
/

175 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:10pm

Listen...you can hear Barry's poll numbers shrinking.

176 Cato  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:10pm

re: #159 Ojoe


You may be more capable of being commander-in-chief than BHO is then.

177 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:21pm

re: #169 ciaospirit

I seem to remember the Obama camp threatening that if McCain announced his VP nominee during the DNC, it would be "political malpractice". In other words, it's not proper to rain on someone else's convention. Yet Obama had no problem going on O'reilly on McCain's big night. Obama's a chronic liar.

From what I understand they actually insisted on it being that night. O'Reilly went along with it because he wanted the interview and would not have gotten it otherwise.

178 Straitcircle  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:22pm

conventions are over -- let the debates begin!

179 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:28pm

re: #103 Asmodeus

About the O's aging process. I wouldn't worry about him.
Didn't some lizards point out (w/ photos) that Obama went from totally black hair to salt-and-pepper in the space of one short vacation in Hawaii? It would seem that BHO stopped using hair coloring when he decided "gravitas" was more important for his image than youthfulness.
(A smart move, IMO.)

180 zombie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:33pm

re: #120 protestshooter

Chainsaws at the Berkeley Oak Grove! If you haven't made it down there yet, I'm sure it's going to be going on for quite a while. They're taking their time and doing it safely.

[Link: www.protestshooter.com...]

(I'm off to lunch now)

Great report, and so fast! The video of the tree-chopping was worth the price of admission.

181 701c  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:58pm

re: #168 MandyManners

Why?

Maybe I should think on that a little more.

182 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:58pm

re: #174 Sparkizzy

Barry Uh Obama.

183 yochanan  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:35:31pm

re: #105 Spider Mensch

hows he going to prepare when he plans to cut the military to carter levels or worse? can obama make thanksgiving dinner with 2 saltines and 3 olives? well he is the messiah, 5 loaves and 3 fishes and obama can feed the multitudes I forgot..

/eye roll

THE OBAMANATION'S idea for the use of the military is for parades and such military brasshat bands. guns never. but lots of spoiled butter

184 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:35:45pm

re: #120 protestshooter

Chainsaws at the Berkeley Oak Grove! If you haven't made it down there yet, I'm sure it's going to be going on for quite a while. They're taking their time and doing it safely.

[Link: www.protestshooter.com...]

(I'm off to lunch now)

The guy burning sage ... isn't that an aw-baloney shell?

185 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:36:06pm

A Battalion is 300 - 1000.
Military unit sizes

186 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:36:26pm

re: #170 Ben Hur

That's the SECRET he's learned from his other spiritual mentor, Oprah.

That's what's behind the faux pres seal, the "O" force one, the columns, the speech in Germany.

You can do it Duffy Moon!

Speak of the other "O" - I am hearing in small circles that a lot of the [white] women who were fans of Oprah are not comprehending her decision to ban Ms. Palin. Sort of contradicts what Oprah was supposed to stand for - you know, the free exchange of ideas...but like other sectors of the media, when you are in the tank, you are in the tank.

187 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:36:28pm

re: #154 Silhouette

Those trees are going to have to go to a hazardous landfill now. They're covered in hippie cooties.

That dipwad "meditating" at the "shrine"? Too funny.

Wouldn't mind having some of that firewood.

188 mbabbitt  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:36:34pm

What strikes me about Obama is that he cannot/will not admit that his surge vote was wrong -- because no one (except people like John McCain) could anticipate such success. This guy cannot be wrong. Under his logic, by Bush relying on the accepted intelligence about Saddam and WMD, Bush was not wrong to kick Saddam out. Both Obama and O'reilly lose with that argument. Both sanctimonious in their spin.

189 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:36:42pm

re: #161 wright1

You know, the O'Reilly [first part] interview was worth it for that quote - you have no idea how many of the kook fringe's heads exploded when he conceded that. No more Bush lied, yada yada

And Palin let it be know that people with good judgment knew the surge would work. She made it clear that Obama was profoundly wrong on a vital national security issue.

190 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:36:49pm

re: #184 pre-Boomer Marine brat

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com...]

MWAH!

191 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:36:52pm

re: #169 ciaospirit

You don't understand. Obama is a Democrat. As a matter of fact, he is as a god among Democrats. Such people don't believe that common restrictions apply to them. That's one reason why BHO is so damn scary. He really believes his own hype.

192 JeremiahRight  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:36:53pm

at 3:37 Bill says:
"alright let's go to Iraq. I think history will show it's the wrong battlefield, okay? And I think that you were perspicacious in your original assessment of the battlefield."
Barry: "I appreciate that"
Bill: "I think you were desperately wrong on the surge, and I think you should admit it to the nation that now, we have defeated the terrorists in Iraq, and they, the al Qaeda came there after we invaded as you know blah blah blah"

I thought there was no bloviating on the Factor. Oh brother

193 Cato  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:37:02pm

re: #171 HelloDare


I think Rudy alread did the UNSC thing. "It took him 3 days to get the Georgia position right. Next time, just call John McCain."

194 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:37:04pm

re: #176 Cato

OK but I design buildings McCain is the obvious choice.

195 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:37:13pm

re: #186 wright1

Speak of the other "O" - I am hearing in small circles that a lot of the [white] women who were fans of Oprah are not comprehending her decision to ban Ms. Palin. Sort of contradicts what Oprah was supposed to stand for - you know, the free exchange of ideas...but like other sectors of the media, when you are in the tank, you are in the tank.

She apparently understands her audience even less than world politics.

196 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:37:51pm

Obama and Olmert, two complete O-holes, with sO much in common!
*Olmert Ok's Israeli Transfer Of Weapons To The Phakestinians*

197 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:37:55pm

re: #148 Cato

Thing is - if you see the armed Forces as one huge source of eeevil, as moonbats do, then it doesn't matter what size batallions and regiments are, they all need to be reduced, imemdiately, fighting a war or not ...

Thats what the neostalinists ahve been doing ehre in the UK - and it looks to me as if B0 has taken a whole wodge of leaves out of their book ...

198 cblesz  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:37:57pm

re: #193 Cato

I think Rudy alread did the UNSC thing. "It took him 3 days to get the Georgia position right. Next time, just call John McCain."

That was the best line of the entire convention!

199 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:38:26pm

re: #188 mbabbitt

What strikes me about Obama is that he cannot/will not admit that his surge vote was wrong -- because no one (except people like John McCain) could anticipate such success. This guy cannot be wrong. Under his logic, by Bush relying on the accepted intelligence about Saddam and WMD, Bush was not wrong to kick Saddam out. Both Obama and O'reilly lose with that argument. Both sanctimonious in their spin.


"Bush can't admit mistakes" was a Dem mantra picked up and hammered home by the MSM for months.

He was even asked to admit it by reporters.

Funny how that works.

200 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:38:26pm

re: #173 goddessoftheclassroom

Happy TGIF, Lizards!

uh oh

201 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:38:39pm

re: #136 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The Nittally Lions are playing tomorrow. Or so Obama says.

OMG. Did he say that? :O

202 jpkoch  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:38:44pm

Obama's people pulled a fast one. O'Rielly has been hounding Obama for months to appear on his show. And Obama complied; he demanded the interview take place during the evening when John McCain gave his acceptance speech. O'Rielly should have seen it coming.

203 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:39:06pm

re: #195 Ben Hur

She apparently understands her audience even less than world politics.

What we need is a Fairness Doctrine. ///

204 Dianna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:39:15pm

Does anyone else get the Political Diary? This is what John Fund had to say about Obama on O'Reilly:

Barack Obama walked into the lion's den of the O'Reilly Factor on Fox News last night in an attempt to upstage John McCain just before his GOP rival delivered his acceptance speech.
Mr. Obama effectively pitched himself to the largely conservative O'Reilly audience as a man who would be a forceful commander in chief. He referred to the attacks by Al Qaeda in Iraq as a "war of terror" and acknowledged the recent success of the Bush-McCain-Petraeus strategy. "I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated," Mr. Obama said. "It's succeeded beyond our wildest dreams."
On Iran, Mr. Obama talked tough and clearly signaled that he considers the Islamic regime a danger to U.S. interests. "It is unacceptable for Iran to possess a nuclear weapon. It would be a game changer."
Mr. Obama realizes that such rhetoric may alienate his liberal base, but with the election less than two months away and no detectable threat from Ralph Nader's candidacy, he no doubt believes he has plenty of running room to reassure voters who are concerned about national security.

He titled it, The One Triangulates

Make of it what you will.

205 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:39:18pm

re: #193 Cato

I think Rudy alread did the UNSC thing. "It took him 3 days to get the Georgia position right. Next time, just call John McCain."

God I love that line - it is almost as good as Community Organizer - whaaaat?

206 cliffster  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:39:34pm

re: #198 cblesz

That was the best line of the entire convention!

Up there, but I think this was the best line... "Let's get one thing clear - only one man in this race has actually fought for you."

207 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:39:48pm

Obama is an O hole.

208 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:39:49pm

re: #146 ciaospirit

Obama said the surge worked beyond anyone's wildest dreams thus including everyone in his position of doubt. And as Sarah Palin pointed out today, Obama was wrong about the surge and wrong about "everyone" being surprised that it worked so well. Only he and the Democrats were surprised.

Yep. Great example of logical hoop jumping.

Because he (Obama) said it wouldn't work and McCain said it would work, McCain is still not right because it worked better than McCain thought/hoped. (obamalogic)

And what's more, Obama is not wrong in saying the surge wouldn't work because he didn't say that (he contends), only a surge that relied too heavily on the US and didn't use the Iraqis more. (Except, of course, the exact plan he said wouldn't work did. But somehow, he was not wrong.)

209 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:39:50pm

re: #190 goddessoftheclassroom

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com.. .]

MWAH!

OUCH!
That looks PAINFUL!

MWAH!

210 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:40:14pm

re: #166 taxfreekiller

uh,
ya
uh,
ya

commercial break

uh,
ya
uh,
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commercial break

Love ya
ta ta

commercial break

The most precise summary yet!

211 freedomnut  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:40:44pm

I stopped watching Bill O when he stopped calling spin-meisters on their dodging the questions. He used to interrupt with a "hey, now stop right there, this is a no spin zone, so we're going to give you another chance to answer the question without putting spin on it." Now he just says OK and moves on to the next question. I can get that on any network.

Was a sad breakup, though.

212 Kostya Lotz  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:41:15pm

Obama did great in the first 20 seconds, after that, ehhh...not so good.
The moment he started parsing Shiite-Sunni, and so forth, you could tell he was only rewinding his talking points and had not given any close scrutiny to the Iran issues and any other national security issues for that matter.

This clown will be worse than Clinton for his legalese, legerdemain and prestidigitation.

Shoes for Industry, Shoes for the Dead.

213 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:41:17pm

RE the Berkley vid:
I believe that if someone says "fuck" to a cop, the cop has a right to smack him/her

214 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:41:55pm

re: #204 Dianna


All True.

Equally disturbing was O'Reilly saying "I looked into his eyes - he is no wimp" - ugh...just kiss him already Bill

215 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:42:07pm

re: #141 midwestgak

Now Karl Rove has to get the machine running for his October surprise.

I forgot about that October surprise. He'll be able to come up with something juicy - so much about OB is lurking under some spider hole somewhere. Gotta be.

Well, I just got sent the racist, sexist MoveOn email about Sarah that I had been warned about (here, in fact) and I'm kinda wondering whether there's maybe a little O-bomb-a that Rove could drop right now. Just to shake things up, you know. The Almighty might have mercy on BO and his disciples, but I hope we have none.

216 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:42:18pm

We all blow up the Yellow Submarine!

[Link: www.angryclam.com...]

217 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:42:19pm

OT:

Politics aside....great picture.

HAPPY RAMADAN EVERYONE. Another Ramadan, another PROOF that the Muslims could care less about Jerusalem, and the Temple Mount but for political reasons. NOTICE THEY PRAY AWAY FROM JERUSALEM & THE MOSQUE (note: Whenever a Jew prays, anywhere in the world, he/she prays TOWARD the Temple Mount & Jerusalem! The importance of J'lem and the Temple Mount is not equal!)

218 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:42:29pm

re: #192 JeremiahRight

"And I think that you were perspicacious in your original assessment of the battlefield."

Obama assessing "battlefield conditions" is like getting knife-fighting tips from Dennis Kucinich.

219 Cato  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:42:39pm

re: #198 cblesz

I disagree. The best line of the convention was: "I put it on eBay."

That line ingratiated her to so many people. She didn't hire a consultant. She didn't give it to an airplain broker. She didn't send out an rfp.

She sold it on eBay, like any mother wanting to sell something she couldn't sell in a yard sale.

Palin is killing the leftists.

220 mbabbitt  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:42:59pm

Just an elaboration: The war went badly -- which Bush finally had to admit but then he did change his action by ordering the Surge. But under Obama's logic, Bush was right at the start. And considering where we are at today -- no Saddam, the defeat of Al Qaeda, the push back of Iran's actions, and the forming of a nascent democracy -- Bush was right all around. Thank goodness for President Bush, Gen. Petraeus, John McCain, and our marvelous men and women in the service of our country.

221 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:43:10pm

re: #214 wright1

All True.

Equally disturbing was O'Reilly saying "I looked into his eyes - he is no wimp" - ugh...just kiss him already Bill

Yeah, well, remember when Bush saw something in Putin's eyes?

222 cliffster  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:43:28pm

re: #204 Dianna

People who are in that group he's talking about actually pay attention to what's going on in the world, election year or no. They will know that it's just words coming out of BO's blowhole, and they will also know how wildly different what he's saying now is from what he was saying a year ago.

223 protestshooter  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:43:34pm

re: #180 zombie

Great report, and so fast! The video of the tree-chopping was worth the price of admission.

Thanks! Hopefully you can swing by sometime for the aftermath pictures - as far as I can tell they're going to be stripping branches all day, so there's still the removal and the real clear-cutting.

224 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:43:43pm

re: #190 goddessoftheclassroom

Just wanna tellya how much I enjoy your piccies!
Am always looking forward to them - gotta have a laugh, innit, like!

Thanks!

225 cblesz  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:43:44pm

How is markos and his happy gang handling the fact that the ONE went on O'Reilly? I wonder if MoveOn is happy too?

226 Dianna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:43:50pm

re: #214 wright1

I'm dancing numbers, so I haven't watched the video. I just saw the Diary, and thought it applied.

Though Obama's too self-absorbed to be a wimp, it seems.

227 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:43:51pm

Obama would have gone on O'Reilly's show sooner if Bill had agreed to have a teleprompter strapped to his head.

228 Miss Molly  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:43:55pm

It would be helpful to learn all the classes that Obama taught at the law school in Chicago because it really gives a clear insight as to what is important to him and it is not all Americans. He seems to have a clear agenda which he is keeping hidden from the American people.

229 protestshooter  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:44:07pm

re: #184 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The guy burning sage ... isn't that an aw-baloney shell?

Ouch!

230 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:44:11pm

re: #182 HelloDare

Barry Uh Obama.

Barry "Uh-Oh" bama.

231 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:44:33pm

re: #136 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The Nittally Lions are playing tomorrow. Or so Obama says.

"Nittally" sounds like a subsidiary of Eataly that sells yarn.

By the way, make with details on your "partying with Brazilian hotties" already. Not that I'm obsessed with Brazilian hotties or anything.

232 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:44:40pm

re: #221 ciaospirit

Yeah, well, remember when Bush saw something in Putin's eyes?


It's called acting.

233 chukardog  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:44:52pm

why didnt Bill ask Obambi why he didnt have a plan for victory, instead of only a plan for retreat? Those werent tough questions. Orielly was for the Iraq invasion and cant see the forest through the trees. Where exactly should we fight Islamic terrorists Bill? State sponsors of terrorism cant be ignored. Hoping the problem will go away isnt a foreign policy, its liberal purple unicorn fantasy groupthink.

234 protestshooter  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:44:54pm

re: #213 Sparkizzy

RE the Berkley vid:
I believe that if someone says "fuck" to a cop, the cop has a right to smack him/her

Oh, in Berkeley it's pretty normal actually.

235 Sol Roth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:44:55pm

Quote for the day:

"Whatever you give a woman, she's going to multiply. If you give her sperm, she'll give you a baby. If you give her a house, she'll give you a home. If you give her groceries, she'll give you a meal. If you give her a smile, she'll give you her heart. She multiplies and enlarges what is given to her.

So - if you give her any crap, you will receive a ton of shit."


Love and appreciate all the women in your life..

236 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:45:00pm
237 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:45:13pm

Wikipedia says:

rather, having been "left-wing" his entire life,

True?

238 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:45:18pm

re: #219 Cato

I disagree. The best line of the convention was: "I put it on eBay."

That line ingratiated her to so many people. She didn't hire a consultant. She didn't give it to an airplain broker. She didn't send out an rfp.

She sold it on eBay, like any mother wanting to sell something she couldn't sell in a yard sale.

Palin is killing the leftists.

She did put it on Ebay but I do not think it sold there.

239 protestshooter  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:45:47pm

re: #238 wright1

She did put it on Ebay but I do not think it sold there.

I believe it did but had to be relisted once or twice.

240 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:45:50pm

re: #200 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Oh - and I do love your replies to the goddess!

241 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:46:05pm

re: #229 protestshooter

Ouch!

And BTW, good photos, great work. Thanks.

242 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:46:06pm

re: #132 701c

I wish Obama was a conservative.

If Obama was a conservative you never would have heard of him & he would not now be running for president. If you think the media hates a conservative woman, just consider how they feel about conservative African-Americans.

243 runrabbitrun  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:46:12pm

re: #61 kynna

Exactly. They keep saying it was the 'wrong battlefield' but they have never explained why. Because that would pin them down and they couldn't spin. The whys are so darn vague they can change with the wind. That may make a good politician or talk show host but it sure doesn't make a good president.

Exactly. The pundits are too dumb to know the real reasons we chose Iraq as the central front, and one of them was to have a major country nestled in the heart of the Middle East reject and kick out al-Queda, fighting with recruits of their own country.

Strength and success create prestige plus recruits in the ME. It was a GIGANTIC blow to the brand.

244 mj  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:46:22pm

As Fox News prepares to interview Barack Obama tomorrow night, during prime time, TV journalist Michael Wolff details a meeting between Barack Obama, Fox News president Roger Ailes, and News Corporation president Rupert Murdoch in which the Fox execs promised to lay off the Democratic presidential candidate.

According to Wolff's telling, this was more than a mere tete-à-tete, this was a full-on diplomatic meeting (initiated at Murdoch's request), conducted only after preparation and with preconditions from the Obama campaign.

The apparent purpose? To smooth things over in the event that Obama defeats John McCain:
[Link: newsbusters.org...]

245 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:46:49pm

re: #237 Sparkizzy

Wikipedia says:


True?

gah. about zombie

246 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:47:00pm

re: #235 Sol Roth

You're not going to make many friends here with that type of crap, boyo.

247 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:47:14pm
248 kevinmumaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:47:19pm

OT: You will not believe this...or maybe you will

DU think Palin is an Aryan Supremacist. Seriously. Because she is from Idaho.

The comments are far and away the most insane I have ever seen, and that is saying something. My favorite so far:

Thanks for the correction. I was going on her own story about Trig's name - turns out she lied.

Palin herself said that Trig was a Norse name, but apparently the Norse version is spelled Trygg, so she lied about that.

And they are of course puzzled as to why Palin has such a high approval rating.

249 Lynn B.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:47:25pm

Just waiting for Barry to snap. You know it's coming ...

Oh damn, where did you come from? I’m a man! I'm entitled! There's a white woman stealing my show!'

250 kuffar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:47:31pm

Palin is so good that she is going to put Obama on E-Bay.

251 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:47:41pm

re: #240 yma o hyd

Oh - and I do love your replies to the goddess!

Thanks. It's a lot of fun.

252 hazzyday  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:47:42pm

re: #156 scottishbuzzsaw

Yeah, the 'convert' is donating to BHO...

Interesting is that the left can listen to the right and hear no content. Cognitive dissonance on a mass scale. The author of that kos piece was mostly a bs moby

253 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:47:56pm

re: #244 mj

As Fox News prepares to interview Barack Obama tomorrow night, during prime time, TV journalist Michael Wolff details a meeting between Barack Obama, Fox News president Roger Ailes, and News Corporation president Rupert Murdoch in which the Fox execs promised to lay off the Democratic presidential candidate.

According to Wolff's telling, this was more than a mere tete-à-tete, this was a full-on diplomatic meeting (initiated at Murdoch's request), conducted only after preparation and with preconditions from the Obama campaign.

The apparent purpose? To smooth things over in the event that Obama defeats John McCain:
[Link: newsbusters.org...]

SAY IT AIN'T SO

254 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:48:07pm

Has anyone bought t-shirts from cafepress?
They have a "Country First McCain/Palin" shirt I'm thinking about getting.
McCain's site is out of even McCain/Palin shirts.

255 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:48:10pm

re: #250 kuffar

Palin is so good that she is going to put Obama on E-Bay.

He's not gonna sell there either.

256 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:48:40pm

re: #250 kuffar

Palin is so good that she is going to put Obama on E-Bay.

Under "fertilizer"?

257 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:49:13pm

re: #255 kansas

He's not gonna sell there either.

Don't be surprised - people have paid for Britney Spears' turd

258 cliffster  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:49:16pm

re: #250 kuffar

Palin is so good that she is going to put Obama on E-Bay.

Listed under, Motivational Speakers?

259 unclassifiable  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:49:16pm

I tried to watch the first 2 minutes of this at work.

I felt my hand involuntarily reaching for the off button several times (and I normally don't turn equipment off -- I shut it down gently) and finally my BS meter pegged and blew up.

I am going to have to fortify myself back home to wade through this. Right now if the earth had swallowed these two up whole that would have been the only value I could derive from it.

260 kuffar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:49:32pm

re: #256 Ward Cleaver

No, as a Rug. She has bear skin over her couch at her home in Alaska.

261 mj  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:49:47pm

re: #219 Cato

I disagree. The best line of the convention was: "I put it on eBay."

That line ingratiated her to so many people. She didn't hire a consultant. She didn't give it to an airplain broker. She didn't send out an rfp.

She sold it on eBay, like any mother wanting to sell something she couldn't sell in a yard sale.

Palin is killing the leftists.


She listed the plane on eBay but it didn't sell there. The Left is already calling her liar about that.


[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]

Palin claim on eBay plane sale doesn't fly
By Jason George and Andrew Zajac | Chicago Tribune correspondents
September 5, 2008


JUNEAU, Alaska — When Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin sought to illustrate her frugality and flair to delegates at the GOP convention Wednesday, she described how she disposed of a corporate jet acquired by her unpopular predecessor.

"That luxury jet was over the top," Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee, said to loud cheers. "I put it on eBay."

Palin's statement implied the plane was sold through the online auction site revered for empowering millions of small entrepreneurs, and Palin's spokeswoman insisted Thursday that the transaction occurred. But the plane failed to sell on eBay.

Instead, the 23-year-old 10-seat Westwind II was sold in August 2007 for $2.1 million to a Valdez, Alaska, entrepreneur; that's about $300,000 less than a broker's asking price, according to news accounts.

262 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:50:07pm

re: #201 wolfie
Yep, Rush looped it. It was so funny.

263 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:50:44pm

I haven't played WOW in 3 days. Feels weird.

264 looking closely  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:50:46pm

I actually watched this last night.

My biggest problem with it is that O'Reilly simply wasn't knowledgeable enough to ask the REAL biting questions, like what political progress in Iraq Obama thinks we should have seen by now, or how exactly we should be cooperating with Europe that we haven't done already (particularly given the failure of "Oil for food", and the multilateral talks that have been going on with Iran for YEARS).

It wasn't a pure fluff interview, but it certainly wasn't a particularly biting one. In essence, one windbag interviewing another.

Where was the followup question on Obama's crack that he "always said the surge was a success". That's news to me. . . I'd have liked to know when he'd EVER said that before.

266 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:51:12pm

re: #231 Occasional Reader

Brazilian hotties? What Brazilian Hotties? This Brazilian hotty?

267 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:51:17pm

re: #218 Occasional Reader

What O'Reilly is really saying is that he thinks Hussein (Saddam, not Obama :-) should still be in power. That is the logical end of following Obama's logic that we shouldn't have gone into Iraq. I wonder exactly how they figure an emboldened Saddam Hussein, freed from sanctions to do as he pleased and supplied by the French and Russians, would contribute to the security of the United States. That is a question that everyone who believes that we should have left Saddam alone should have to answer.

268 hazzyday  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:51:25pm

re: #220 mbabbitt

Just an elaboration: The war went badly -- which Bush finally had to admit but then he did change his action by ordering the Surge. But under Obama's logic, Bush was right at the start. And considering where we are at today -- no Saddam, the defeat of Al Qaeda, the push back of Iran's actions, and the forming of a nascent democracy -- Bush was right all around. Thank goodness for President Bush, Gen. Petraeus, John McCain, and our marvelous men and women in the service of our country.

I don't think it was possible for the war to go well at the start. We came in there without the cultural knowledge to adapt to the situation. It's a great plus that the military leaders perceived themselves to be adaptable to the combat terrain and turned a lot of their leaders into anthropolgists. The pre surge time, is just surge prep time. It had to be done that way.

269 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:51:35pm

re: #257 wright1

Don't be surprised - people have paid for Britney Spears' turd

Are you saying Obama is Britney Spears' turd? ; )

270 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:51:44pm

re: #135 wright1

De nada. I think it's utterly loathsome. I guess we need to notify all security teams that anyone dressed in bright pink is suspect, especially if they've got a tiara and feather boa from Claire's. (Accessory shop popular with pre-teens.)

271 Sol Roth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:52:09pm

re: #246 Ben Hur

You're not going to make many friends here with that type of crap, boyo.

:)

272 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:52:35pm

re: #261 mj

She didn't say she SOLD it on ebay, she said she put it on ebay.

274 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:52:41pm

re: #266 experiencedtraveller

Brazilian hotties? What Brazilian Hotties? This Brazilian hotty?

That temporarily put my heart in to v-tach...
CLEAR!

275 SecondComing  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:52:46pm

re: #163 Ward Cleaver

He tanked against Michael Moore, too. "Looking out for you", my ass.

yeah, I remember that. I brought that up when a friend said OMG OBAMA IS GOING TO BE ON O'REILLY! I knew not to bother.

276 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:53:29pm

re: #258 cliffster

Listed under, Motivational Speakers?

Maybe once he's divorced and living in a van, down by the river.

277 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:53:36pm

re: #261 mj

How lame. She said "I put it on eBay," which is perfectly true. How it was ultimately sold is irrelevant. They are really grasping at straws.

278 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:53:46pm

re: #62 zombie

Did he ask this question:

"Senator Obama, is it true that you had your first political "coming out party" in the home of William Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, who sponsored your first political run for office, and who referred to you as "our man"? Wasn't Ayers once described as your "political mentor"? Were you unaware of their political affiliations at the time? And do you categorically and publicly now repudiate Ayers and Dorhn and everything they stand for?"

If not, then I don't want to hear about it.

That part of the interview "Ayers" next week.

279 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:54:05pm
280 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:54:15pm
281 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:54:28pm

re: #276 Kosh's Shadow

Maybe once he's divorced and living in a van, down by the river.

I wish I could give you multiple updings for that!

282 looking closely  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:54:32pm

re: #132 701c

I wish Obama was a conservative.

I wish I $50,000,000 million in the bank and X-ray vision.

Given his thin resume, If Obama were a conservative he'd

a. Never have been elected to the State IL gov't in his district
b. Never have been elected to the Senate.
c. Never had the fawning (and unprecedented) media support he's received to date, and
d. Never gotten the Republican nomination for POTUS.

In short, a hypothetical conservative "Obama" would be a totally different animal than the current one.

283 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:55:20pm

re: #277 doppelganglander

How lame. She said "I put it on eBay," which is perfectly true. How it was ultimately sold is irrelevant. They are really grasping at straws.

Democrat rule: When in hole, keeping digging. You'll eventually see daylight.

284 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:55:26pm

re: #269 kansas

Are you saying Obama is Britney Spears' turd? ; )

No, he's a demon turd. Human crap doesn't stink as bad as he does.

285 SecondComing  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:56:10pm

re: #160 wrenchwench

If running for president makes you qualified to be president, Ralph Nader is the most qualified candidate.

Palin needs to use that in a debate!

286 J.S.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:56:19pm

Several factors become painfully obvious in this interview -- and it has to do with Obama's judgement and character. I think the most damning item is that Obama (even when confronted with direct evidence) cannot admit to having made an error. Obama contorts himself into making it sound as if He is the Infallible One -- Never, Ever, Wrong... Always right. This (i believe) is an extremely dangerous attitude. It means that this person (this potentially future President of the United States) is incapable of learning. hence, he will be in the position of repeating mistakes, over and over and over again...while consistently asserting that he's "right." while everyone (including a three year old) realizes, "he's wrong." He also has an exceptionally weak understanding of the current Islamist threat. It's laughable. Somehow he has been led to believe (as if this were another Infallible Doctrine) that Sunni and Shiite would never, ever get together to do an enemy harm...O my G-d, my, my, my, how wrong Obama is...Again, I believe this clearly indicates that Obama hasn't a clue about how things actually operate in the Middle East...not a frigging clue...There would need to be an extremely steep learning curve here (and given his attitude of "I'm always right") -- Obama is not going to master the necessary lessons...(Obama spells disaster for the United States, if ever this bozo gains office.) Ditto for Obama's repeated and failed yak about the "Europeans" and using "diplomacy." That has been tried by the Europeans with Iran for years now and the result has been One Fat failure after another... And yet, The One doesn't recognize the failures made by the Europeans...Nor is The One capable of even acknowledging failure when he encounters it. He just repeats the mantra -- the same chant -- "talk with them" -- as if this will magically cure all ailments...The Iranians must be laughing and rubbing their hands with glee...

287 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:56:24pm

re: #283 kansas

Democrat rule: When in hole, keeping digging. You'll eventually see daylight.

Please tell me that means they'll end up in China?

288 Piglet-U93  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:56:38pm

re: #147 Sparkizzy

Ah fuck, I should have read that

We all make mistakes. To learn from them shows good character. Yes, I read it too. No problem, move on :)

289 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:57:00pm

re: #283 kansas

Democrat rule: When in hole, keeping digging. You'll eventually see daylight.

Where China is. Which is kind of the point.

290 runrabbitrun  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:57:05pm

re: #249 Lynn B.

Just waiting for Barry to snap. You know it's coming ...

You know that Barry will let loose with some hotheaded nasty comments, and Biden-esque bloopers as he melts down, now that he's been shaken by Palin the way Bobby Fischer used to rattle his own opponents.

It won't be so easy to goad Palin into blowing her top. A superbusy, devoted mom like Sarah probably has had more years of on-the-job experience with kids testing her temper to the limit when she is exhausted than Obama has had.

291 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:57:48pm

re: #288 Piglet-U93

Thanks.

292 looking closely  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:58:18pm

re: #267 Iron Fist

What O'Reilly is really saying is that he thinks Hussein (Saddam, not Obama :-) should still be in power. That is the logical end of following Obama's logic that we shouldn't have gone into Iraq. I wonder exactly how they figure an emboldened Saddam Hussein, freed from sanctions to do as he pleased and supplied by the French and Russians, would contribute to the security of the United States. That is a question that everyone who believes that we should have left Saddam alone should have to answer.


Of course, and let's not forget that long before Iran started with its own covert nuclear program, Saddam Hussein had his own personal one too.

Short of the corrupt and crumbling sanctions program, and the ongoing American blockade (with active shooting over the no-fly zone), how exactly would the world persuade Hussein NOT to try to develop nukes a second time?

Consult the Europeans?

293 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:58:40pm

re: #248 kevinmumaw

Palin Lied, Trig Cried!

So because she "changed" the spelling of a word that probably has 50 "correct" spellings, she lied? How about going after McCain and Cindy for lying about their ages to each other?

294 DisturbedEma  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:58:52pm

re: #170 Ben Hur

That's the SECRET he's learned from his other spiritual mentor, Oprah.

That's what's behind the faux pres seal, the "O" force one, the columns, the speech in Germany.

You can do it Duffy Moon!

Duffy Moonshine is in the house. . .

295 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:58:55pm

re: #248 kevinmumaw

There must be a competition among lefties to out-numbskull each other right?

The Palins spelled their son's name "Trig" instead of "Trygg" so that is somehow a lie and proves she's an white supremacist?

296 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:58:57pm

re: #287 scottishbuzzsaw

Please tell me that means they'll end up in China?

Pretty sure that's what's on the other side.

297 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:59:06pm

that was a stalemate.
o'reilly trying to look like he's not a suck up flunky. going as far as he can w/out offending the 'one'
and the one, so desperately wanting to appear strong and statesman like. lol
why did they even bother w/ this charade?

298 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:59:08pm

re: #264 looking closely

I think it worked to McCain's advantage ... made Obama not look like a messiah ... figuratively knocked him off mount olympus, not b/c of Oreilly, but because there wasn't anything special about it. And his minions think he is specially. The center doesn't get the Obama phenomenon, but when Palin is on, something special is on...

299 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:59:53pm

re: #238 wright1

She indeed put it on eBay, but didn't get the reserve price ($2.5 million IIRC). The plane was sold for $2.1 million through a broker.

300 Karagush  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:00:04pm

re: #108 yma o hyd

I downdinged you by mistake, and that should be a plus! I am full of cold medicine. Please forgive me (furious blush)

301 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:00:18pm

re: #287 scottishbuzzsaw

Please tell me that means they'll end up in China?

I hope so. Their cronyism fits in well there.

302 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:00:42pm

re: #279 WrathofG-d

ot:

Jews NOT WELCOME to live in Jerusalem!

This is ludicrous. Insane.

303 wintercat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:00:56pm

re: #283 kansas

The democrats are so frightened of Sarah Palin that they are beginning to implode. I welcome that.

She put it on eBay. End of story.

By the way, anyone know when the democratic media plans to turn their attention to Rezko/Obama mansion co-purchase?

/

304 nikis-knight  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:01:14pm

re: #4 pegcity

perverted the faith of islam

buzz, wrong

Try again

Good luck finding anyone who'll speak straight about that.

305 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:01:17pm

re: #295 Kenneth

My nephew's name is Mathieu, not Matthew, but his patron saint is ... St. matthew ... I'm sure it is spelled differently in aramaic ;)

Normal people despise this level of nitpickyness (If I may speak for normal people).

306 Cognito  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:01:34pm

re: #28 so.cal.swede

what i find found interesting and funny, is that the Democrats have since 2001 berated GW Bush for going to Iraq "to steal their oil"

In this interview, Obama basically said he wanted to go with O'Reilly to Iraq and get the oil.


SAY WHAT NOW?

I think they actually said they wanted to go get the Iraqis to spend their own surplus cash, instead of spending our (nonsurplus, and dwindling) cash.

I'm sorta with 'em on that point.

307 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:01:52pm

re: #299 lawhawk

She indeed put it on eBay, but didn't get the reserve price ($2.5 million IIRC). The plane was sold for $2.1 million through a broker.

Right. The most important thing is that there is no story here but when you don't have the facts - make them up - Rudolph Giuliani

308 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:02:09pm

re: #286 J.S.

I think the most damning item is that Obama (even when confronted with direct evidence) cannot admit to having made an error...

It is becoming more apparent every day: Obama suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder

The Iranians must be laughing and rubbing their hands with glee...

The mullahs always figured Bush was an aberration and all they had to do was wait for the Dems to take over the White House again. They must be pinching themselves at their good luck in Obama.

309 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:02:21pm
310 Uncle Joe  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:02:27pm

yeeesh...Two people I detest. I don't think I can watch it.

311 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:02:30pm

To counter that, here's a shameless plug for a friend of mine. He enjoys politics and writing, any thoughts? Please tell me if I'm out of line for posting this. [Link: josephpenn.blogspot.com...]

312 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:03:40pm

re: #292 looking closely

That's a good question, especially given the fact that the Russians and the French were already playing fast and loose with the "sanctions". What would be left of those sanctions today if the US had backed down? What would be going on in Saddam's WMD factories today if we haddn't gone to war?

I'm sure O'Reilly won't ask Obama these questions, but they were questions that needed to be answered before the decision was made to rashly turn away from a necessary war.

313 runrabbitrun  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:03:51pm

re: #287 scottishbuzzsaw

Please tell me that means they'll end up in China?

hi ((scottishbuzzsaw))! And a VERY good afternoon to you (which it is for us 'Pubbies :) )

If the Dems find themselves in China, they'll probably look for a way to get as many citizens of the most populous country in the world the right to vote - Dem, of course (hey, why try for just the felons?)

314 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:03:53pm

re: #272 newsjunkie_ky

She didn't say she SOLD it on ebay, she said she put it on ebay.

Well she is lying about that because she would have actually "listed" it on ebay. Actually physically putting a jet on e-bay is impossible.Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaahhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Sound of insanity, by the way. I'm starting to understand these people.

315 Alouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:04:06pm

re: #248 kevinmumaw

OT: You will not believe this...or maybe you will

DU think Palin is an Aryan Supremacist. Seriously. Because she is from Idaho.

The comments are far and away the most insane I have ever seen, and that is saying something. My favorite so far:

And they are of course puzzled as to why Palin has such a high approval rating.

She must be a race traitor, married to a half-breed Eskimo.

316 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:05:03pm

re: #302 wolfie

This comes during a week where Olmert is discussing "Disengagement II", handing over thousands of weapons to the PA, splitting Jerusalem, and refusing to allow Jews to repair a Jewish Holy Spot that is being used now as a Arab/Muslim trash dump.

Oh....but don't fear......90 thousand + Arab/Muslims were allowed into Israel today to pray on the Occupied Temple Mount (forbidden to Jews)

317 nikis-knight  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:05:19pm

re: #55 Occasional Reader

Which brings us to our bonus question:

Who is a better "community organizer", Barack Obama or David Petraeus?

I don't usually say this but... everyone go upding this post of OR's!

318 dhg4  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:05:43pm

re: #169 ciaospirit

I seem to remember the Obama camp threatening that if McCain announced his VP nominee during the DNC, it would be "political malpractice". In other words, it's not proper to rain on someone else's convention. Yet Obama had no problem going on O'reilly on McCain's big night. Obama's a chronic liar.

Exactly right. I wondered if anyone would point it out.

Also, IIRC, the Obama campaign promised a similarly positive response to McCain's nomination. I suspect that didn't happen either.

319 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:05:49pm

re: #315 Alouette

She must be a race traitor, married to a half-breed Eskimo.

Hey, don't Eskimos share their wives? I'm going to Alaska by gosh.

320 cblesz  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:06:07pm

Anyone listening to Hannity today? Curious as to his reaction of the convention and state of the race...

321 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:06:11pm

re: #306 Cognito

I think they actually said they wanted to go get the Iraqis to spend their own surplus cash, instead of spending our (nonsurplus, and dwindling) cash.

I'm sorta with 'em on that point.

Q: Tell me, who & what made that possible?

A: John McCain and the Surge.

But Obama is still against it. If Obama had his way, and had blocked the surge, we would be looking at an ongoing genocide, a civil war and a wider regional war in the Middle East right now.

322 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:06:20pm

re: #300 Karagush

Dinna worry, mun!
There are worse things in life than suffering an accidental down-ding.

Hope your cold gets better - its not a nice thing to be afflicted with, especially as everybody has patent cures and thinks one just needs to pull oneself together and get a move on ...

(Steam inhalations of chamomile tea are pretty useful ...)

323 cblesz  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:06:45pm

re: #318 dhg4

Exactly right. I wondered if anyone would point it out.

Also, IIRC, the Obama campaign promised a similarly positive response to McCain's nomination. I suspect that didn't happen either.

That's right...they said they would do the same thing...did not as far as I know.

324 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:06:51pm

re: #309 WrathofG-d

tap, tap, tap....this thing on?

Some Good Old Russian Propaganda: Putin Single Handedly Defeats Tiger In The Wild.

Well, if they want to play that game, we could settle matters with Russia quite easily: Vladimir Putin vs. Chuck Norris. I give Putin 2 minutes before he's knocked out cold.

325 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:06:57pm

Ever since Clinton was impeached for lying, it is imperative that every conservative be shown to be a liar.

Even if all they have is pathetic stuff like spelling a name differently. Or putting/selling differences on ebay.

Speaking of misspellings, my mother named me after herself, but spelled it wrong. She'd been spelling her own name wrong her whole life, and just passed it along to me. We found her birth certificate and wasn't she surprised to learn her name actually was the tradional spelling.

326 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:07:39pm

re: #303 wintercat

The democrats are so frightened of Sarah Palin that they are beginning to implode. I welcome that.

She put it on eBay. End of story.

By the way, anyone know when the democratic media plans to turn their attention to Rezko/Obama mansion co-purchase?

/

Never!
Well - perhaps after he's lost the election and they need to find the biggest scapegoat - B0 himself ...

327 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:07:53pm

re: #251 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Thanks. It's a lot of fun.


Well, the bunny thought so at first...

328 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:08:10pm

re: #286 J.S.

Several factors become painfully obvious in this interview -- and it has to do with Obama's judgement and character. I think the most damning item is that Obama (even when confronted with direct evidence) cannot admit to having made an error. Obama contorts himself into making it sound as if He is the Infallible One -- Never, Ever, Wrong... Always right. This (i believe) is an extremely dangerous attitude. It means that this person (this potentially future President of the United States) is incapable of learning. hence, he will be in the position of repeating mistakes, over and over and over again...while consistently asserting that he's "right." while everyone (including a three year old) realizes, "he's wrong." (SNIP).

Something else that I find very telling and very dangerous about Obama is his propensity to consider even the slightest criticism or difference in point of view a personal attack, his complete inability to brush anything at all off and the fact that he simply must respond to everything. Witness his "Fight the Smears" website and "shock troops." It is these qualities that have allowed John McCain to push Obama into playing a bad defense and it is precisely these propensities that spell disaster should we as a nation be foolish enough to place Obama in charge.

329 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:08:16pm

re: #158 yma o hyd

He definitely lost weight - his suit looked loose - and i loathe the way he tries to touch O'Reilly, but then, thats what community organisers do to show they ahve empathy ...

Obama looks like a gentle breeze would topple him.

330 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:08:17pm

"White supremacists love having babies

They fear the disappearance of the "white race." That's the only reason why they're against abortion. They encourage their people to have as many kids as possible."

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

331 chukardog  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:08:34pm

#246 Ben hur- Huh? what was wrong with it? My wife of ten years loved it and sent it to all her friends.

332 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:08:42pm

re: #321 Kenneth

Don't blame Obama! He tried to block the Surge, but those evil Republicans managed to somehow go against his brilliant advice.

333 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:08:43pm
“I know that I’m not your typical presidential candidate,” Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., told executives and employees of the Schott glass company Friday afternoon, “and I just want to be honest with you. I know that.”
“And I know that the temptation is to say, ‘You know what? …The guy hasn’t been there that long in Washington.,’ You know, ‘he’s got funny name,’ You know, ‘we’re not sure about him,’” Obama continued. “And that’s what the Republicans, when they say, ‘This isn’t about issues, it’s about personalities,’ what they’re really saying is, ‘We’re going to try to scare people about Barack. So we’re going to say that you know, maybe he’s got Muslim connections or we’re going to say that, you know, he hangs out with radicals or he’s not patriotic.’

Use Only In Emergency.

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334 Lynn B.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:08:50pm

re: #302 wolfie

This is ludicrous. Insane.

I think that article and video are misleading. The area they're talking about is a sensitive piece of land in an area that's pretty much a no-man's land in the Judean hills. I'm pretty sure it's outside the greater Jerusalem boundaries and it's certainly outside of any settled community.

Arutz 7 can get a little carried away at times. Some of these orchestrated battles tend to undermine the more important overall objective.

335 cyclosarin  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:08:54pm

Obama has a glass jaw.

336 daddyo  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:09:17pm
337 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:09:21pm

re: #313 runrabbitrun

hi ((scottishbuzzsaw))! And a VERY good afternoon to you (which it is for us 'Pubbies :) )

If the Dems find themselves in China, they'll probably look for a way to get as many citizens of the most populous country in the world the right to vote - Dem, of course (hey, why try for just the felons?)


Hello {runrabbitrun}! It is indeed a very good afternoon. The last two nights have restored a measure of hope I thought lost. How goes all with you, kindred soul?

338 favre4favre  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:09:24pm

How can something that is already perverted be perverted? People freak out over scientology, which is a money cult, and yet make excuses for the death cult that is Islam. Need to identify the enemy befoe we can defeat it.

339 Spider Mensch  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:10:01pm

re: #284 Dark_Falcon

No, he's a demon turd. Human crap doesn't stink as bad as he does.

here is Mr Obamey, the election poo.."Howdy ho everybody. vote for me!"

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340 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:10:22pm

re: #325 Silhouette

Ever since Clinton was impeached for lying, it is imperative that every conservative be shown to be a liar.

Even if all they have is pathetic stuff like spelling a name differently. Or putting/selling differences on ebay.

Speaking of misspellings, my mother named me after herself, but spelled it wrong. She'd been spelling her own name wrong her whole life, and just passed it along to me. We found her birth certificate and wasn't she surprised to learn her name actually was the tradional spelling.


Anfernee?

341 lurking faith  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:10:47pm

re: #206 cliffster

Up there, but I think this was the best line... "Let's get one thing clear - only one man in this race has actually fought for you."

I still have to go with: "Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy."

342 looking closely  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:11:02pm

re: #298 Celtic Templar

I think it worked to McCain's advantage ... made Obama not look like a messiah ... figuratively knocked him off mount olympus, not b/c of Oreilly, but because there wasn't anything special about it. And his minions think he is specially. The center doesn't get the Obama phenomenon, but when Palin is on, something special is on...

The problem with O'Reilly interviewing Obama was that instead of the hard-cutting "no spin" interview, we ended up with something not that dissimilar to the blind leading the blind.

We had OK questions from O'Reilly but no depth in following them up.

"Exactly what sort of cooperation with the Europeans would you like to see that the Bush administration hasn't tried in multilateral talks for the last eight years"?

"I've never heard you acknowledge the success of the surge before, only say multiple times that it has been a failure and that you were against it. When did you change your mind about it?"

"Exactly what political progress have we not seen in Iraq that you believe we should have seen by now, and how do you think pulling American soldiers out of the theater is going to get it to happen"?

And O'Reilly really didn't address the Iran question appropriately, he asked Obama if he was prepared to use military force. . .of course he'd say "yes". That's not the right question. The question is, *We've been negotiating multilaterally for several years, and have run into roadblocks put up by the Russians and Chinese. At what point do you believe that multilateral negotiations have failed. What is the trigger for military action?*.

343 Lynn B.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:11:03pm

Personally, I find this a lot more ludicrous and insane.

Peres: I oppose the use of military force against Iran

344 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:11:14pm

re: #315 Alouette

She must be a race traitor, married to a half-breed Eskimo.

Ohh - nice one!

But - wouldn't that mak her work doubly hard for this Supremacy, as an atonement?

(Gawd - these mindsets are just so easy to play with ...)

345 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:11:17pm

re: #319 kansas

Hey, don't Eskimos share their wives? I'm going to Alaska by gosh.

I don't think Alaska is the place to go for women (Palin withstanding). If I recall correctly, there are 50 men for every woman. So the competition is tough for men.

Okay, I made up the 50-1 ratio, but it is uneven.

WHERE THE BOYS ARE

Where should you hunt for a mate? If you're a single woman looking for a single man, Alaska is still a gold mine. Our study, however, focused on the continental U.S., where the following counties led the pack for available men:

Chattahoochee County, GA
Union County, FL
Jones County, TX
DeKalb County, MO
Crowley County, CO

Men looking for women should check out:

Bristol, VA
Franklin, VA
Pulaski County, GA
Monroe County, WV
Randolph County, GA

346 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:11:24pm

There are so many quotable headdesk inducing posts...

347 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:11:27pm

I'm still trying to wrap my brain around "Nittally Lions."

348 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:11:46pm
349 yesandno  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:12:14pm

O'Rielly was persistent in an attempt to prove HE was correct, not whether or not Obama was correct. So we get an almost admission on the success of the surge because that is what Bill believes. It is not wrong, but it is not objective journalism and so he will not get an honest answer because the questions are trying to back up Bill's positions, not get at Obama's.

He hinted that the remainder of the interview, next week, reveals more info, but this hardly revealed anything.

Thought that the Obama slump in the chair revealed more then the words did.

All O'Rielly wanted to do was get to evaluations of HIS performance...like a child looking for approval. He is always pretending to be tough when he is basically trying to put himself in the good light. Again, not saying much for objective journalism.

I would prefer Obama was interviewed by Glenn Beck...he may not be the best news person, but he is a thinker...to take off on his own line.

He had an hour long discussion last night on the real Obama....very interesting.

350 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:12:17pm

re: #327 goddessoftheclassroom

Well, the bunny thought so at first...

LOL!

And it looks like he was in the fire up to ear!

351 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:12:18pm

re: #347 wolfie

I'm still trying to wrap my brain around "Nittally Lions."

What's that about?

352 kynna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:12:22pm

re: #295 Kenneth

There must be a competition among lefties to out-numbskull each other right?

The Palins spelled their son's name "Trig" instead of "Trygg" so that is somehow a lie and proves she's an white supremacist?

Lies! Scandal! Babies!

353 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:12:50pm

re: #330 Sparkizzy

"White supremacists love having babies

They fear the disappearance of the "white race." That's the only reason why they're against abortion. They encourage their people to have as many kids as possible."

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H!

Well hell's bells. "Palestinians" are not "white racists" but palestinian women often have 10 or more children.

354 so.cal.swede  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:12:51pm

re: #319 kansas

Hey, don't Eskimos share their wives? I'm going to Alaska by gosh.

I think the (partly correct) stereotype is that wives have multiple husbands.

355 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:12:52pm

re: #343 Lynn B.

Personally, I find this a lot more ludicrous and insane.

Peres: I oppose the use of military force against Iran

Peres is and always has been a moron. He is Cindy Sheehan with a Knesset seat.

356 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:13:19pm

re: #316 WrathofG-d

Civilizations die by suicide.

We live in terrible times.

357 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:13:25pm

re: #315 Alouette

That's what Whoopi believes:
Palin's speech sounds like a Bund rally

358 SecondComing  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:13:49pm

re: #257 wright1

Don't be surprised - people have paid for Britney Spears' turd

Federline was up on Ebay?

359 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:13:52pm

Oprah's get her ass kicked on oprah dot com /community/community/tows/talkabout

360 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:14:06pm

"Thanks for the correction. I was going on her own story about Trig's name - turns out she lied.

Palin herself said that Trig was a Norse name, but apparently the Norse version is spelled Trygg, so she lied about that."

Ok, I promise I'll stop now

361 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:14:08pm

re: #329 debutaunt

Obama looks like a gentle breeze would topple him.

He can't be heavy; he's the Lightworker.

362 Cognito  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:14:14pm

With apologies to Davey Crockett:

Born in a city called Leningrad,
His apparatchik parents named him Vlad.
Raised in the woods so's he knew every tree,
Killed him a tiger so they'd put it on TV.

Vlady, Vlady Putin!

King of the New Empire.


/he happened to be holding a tranquilizer gun!

363 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:01pm

ot:

Because of the Iraq war there are no available troops to protect the homeland or do anything else....we are doooooooommmmed!

Oh wait...nevermind.

364 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:06pm

re: #353 galloping granny

Well hell's bells. "Palestinians" are not "white racists" but palestinian women often have 10 or more children.

But they are doing it for the right reason. Or doing it because the evil Israeli blockade is keeping contraceptives from them and therefore punishing them with children. Or...I don't know, but I know that the Palestinians are not wrong and somehow, it's my fault.

365 nikis-knight  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:13pm

re: #186 wright1

Sort of contradicts what Oprah was supposed to stand for - you know, the free exchange of ideas Feelings...

Fixed it for you.

366 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:28pm

re: #286 J.S.

The Iranians must be laughing and rubbing their hands with glee...

The Kennedy-Khrushchev Conference for Dummies

In Portland on May 18, Obama cited John F. Kennedy's 1961 summit with Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev in Vienna among the series of negotiations that led to America's triumph over the Soviet Union in the Cold War. The Vienna summit, however, disproves Obama's assertion...

"I never met a man like this," Kennedy subsequently commented to Time's Hugh Sidey. "[I] talked about how a nuclear exchange would kill 70 million people in ten minutes, and he just looked at me as if to say 'So what?'" In The Fifty-Year Wound, Cold War historian Derek Leebaert drily observes of Khrushchev in Vienna, "Having worked for Stalin had its uses."


Khrushchev berated, belittled, and bullied Kennedy on subjects ranging from Communist ideology to the balance of power between the Soviet and Western blocs, to Laos, to "wars of national liberation," to nuclear testing. He threw down the gauntlet on Berlin in particular, all but threatening war.


Kennedy said to Reston that Khrushchev had "just beat [the] hell out of me" and that he had presented Kennedy with a terrible problem: "If he thinks I'm inexperienced and have no
guts, until we remove those ideas we won't get anywhere with him. So we have to act."


Seeking the advice of former Secretary of State Dean Acheson and others, Kennedy pondered his options...he was seeking congressional approval for an additional $3.25 billion in defense spending, the doubling and tripling of draft calls, calling up reserves, raising the Army's total authorized strength, increasing active duty numbers in the Navy and Air Force, reconditioning planes and ships in mothballs...


In August, Khrushchev responded in his own fashion, erecting the Berlin wall and resuming above ground nuclear testing.

The following year brought the Cuban missile crisis, another sequel to Khrushchev's reading of Kennedy's weakness. Close as the Cuban missile crisis brought the two sides to war, however, it was perhaps not the most consequential effect of Khrushchev's reading of Kennedy's weakness. Persuaded that he needed further to demonstrate "fearlessness and backbone," in the words of William Manchester, Kennedy observed to Reston that the only place where the Communists were challenging the West in a shooting war was in Southeast Asia. Summarizing Kennedy's own evaluation of the aftermath of the Vienna conference in his 2003 biography of Kennedy, Robert Dallek writes that Kennedy "now needed to convince Khrushchev that he could not be pushed around, and the best place currently to make U.S. power credible seemed to be in Vietnam."

And Khrushchev wasn't a religious maniac who believed that an apocalyptic confrontation would cause the reappearance of the 12th imam.

367 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:43pm

re: #328 galloping granny

Agree.
It also indicates that, should he win, he'll be surrounded by yes-men. And that is a perfect recipe for disaster, or so history tells us.

368 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:43pm

re: #359 Ben Hur

Oprah's get her ass kicked on oprah dot com /community/community/tows/talkabout

Wow.

369 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:46pm

re: #357 Celtic Templar

That's what Whoopi believes:
Palin's speech sounds like a Bund rally

And Obama's stage was not straight out of a 1939 rally in Berlin? Right down to the set itself - of which there are pictures?

370 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:52pm

re: #356 wolfie

Civilizations die by suicide.

We live in terrible times.

A thousand up-dings!

371 guzziguy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:55pm

re: #110 Ben Hur

Top 7 Myths, Lies and Untruths About Sarah Palin

I have to admit that I'm just a bit disappointed that the bikini one is a fake.

/kidding...............maybe

372 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:16:27pm

re: #327 goddessoftheclassroom

Well, the bunny thought so at first...


{goddess{
what up? how did it go today in the classroom?

373 alegrias  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:16:47pm

re: #328 galloping granny

Something else that I find very telling and very dangerous about Obama is his propensity to consider even the slightest criticism or difference in point of view a personal attack, his complete inability to brush anything at all off and the fact that he simply must respond to everything. Witness his "Fight the Smears" website and "shock troops." It is these qualities that have allowed John McCain to push Obama into playing a bad defense and it is precisely these propensities that spell disaster should we as a nation be foolish enough to place Obama in charge.

* * *
Nice observation that fake peaceniks are so MARTIAL when it comes to their brittle egos. Though they will let third rate dictators take potshots at our country with impunity and JOIN in the bullying & dissing by Chavez, Fidel, Zapatero, Morales and other banana leftists.

Their "offense" against Sarah Palin was offensive on purpose, it is their trademark now.

This is the party that "Borked" Robert Bork's nomination and stomped on Clarence Thomas' nominations and engaged in the "politics of personal destruction" of probably countless other Republican nominees whose nominations are still held up by democrats!

374 favre4favre  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:16:48pm

re: #353 galloping granny


Those are fodder for the death cult.

375 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:16:56pm

re: #331 chukardog

#246 Ben hur- Huh? what was wrong with it? My wife of ten years loved it and sent it to all her friends.

Member since 2004.

Don't you know me by now?

Too quick on with the negative ding.

WAS JOKE.

376 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:17:02pm

re: #367 yma o hyd

It also indicates that, should he win, he'll be surrounded by yes-men. And that is a perfect recipe for disaster, or so history tells us.

Repeatedly...

377 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:17:07pm

re: #364 Silhouette

But they are doing it for the right reason. Or doing it because the evil Israeli blockade is keeping contraceptives from them and therefore punishing them with children. Or...I don't know, but I know that the Palestinians are not wrong and somehow, it's my fault.

They're doing it because they need ammo, or at least the guidance package for [suicide] bombs.

378 HBob  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:17:30pm

When Obama says about the surge - “I’ve already said it’s succeeded beyond our wildest dreams” it shows how surprised he is when the military succeeds. He expects failure from the military. He doesn't think they are competent. And I guess Obama wants us to think that those who supported the surge were just trying the surge without any expectations of success. A lucky "Oh, what the f*ck!" moment in history.

You think this a**hat will ever use the military for anything other than humanitarian aid delivery?

What a f*cking tool.

379 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:17:50pm

I refused to listen to O'Reilly's interview with Obama, but he's on the radio now playing excerpts. Obama sounds like a bumbling idiot.

380 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:17:51pm

re: #362 Cognito

With apologies to Davey Crockett:

Born in a city called Leningrad,
His apparatchik parents named him Vlad.
Raised in the woods so's he knew every tree,
Killed him a tiger so they'd put it on TV.

Vlady, Vlady Putin!

King of the New Empire.


/he happened to be holding a tranquilizer gun!

Speaking of, I happen to have review copies of various things show up on my desk. Yesterday's offering - the Tsar, new soon-to-be released book by Ted Bell. He must have had a really good crystal ball when he wrote this one.

381 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:17:53pm

re: #354 so.cal.swede

I think the (partly correct) stereotype is that wives have multiple husbands.

so your saying Sarah is still available?
/ ya..I know i need this

382 runrabbitrun  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:18:19pm

re: #337 scottishbuzzsaw

Hello {runrabbitrun}! It is indeed a very good afternoon. The last two nights have restored a measure of hope I thought lost. How goes all with you, kindred soul?

sweetie, I have given myself a day off from outside duties ::playing Ferris Bueller music:: because I took care of my youngest grandson last weekend; he's not yet a year old, and I still don't understand how his little baby sniffles translate into a major headcold for me =O (of course, them pre-schooler germs can be even worse).

Of course, I have found a zillion tasks to do while I am 'resting' here. Have you ever noticed that when you are at work, you somehow find time in your day to read the newspaper, but on your weekend or sick days, you never do? That's the kind of day it's been, but I'm loving the freedom anyways.

How are you today? Planning a big weekend?

383 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:18:37pm
384 HBob  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:19:34pm

re: #379 kansas

I refused to listen to O'Reilly's interview with Obama, but he's on the radio now playing excerpts. Obama sounds like a bumbling idiot.

And the moonbats say Bush can't put a sentence together. Obama drives me nuts with all that stuttering and stammering.

385 Age Of Freedom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:19:59pm

0bama doesn't believe all the Islamists are part of the same ideology.

This, is where he's fatally wrong.

386 chukardog  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:20:21pm

Doh! sorry ben hur. I always liked your posts and you have way more updings from me!

387 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:20:52pm
388 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:20:54pm

re: #373 alegrias

* * *
Nice observation that fake peaceniks are so MARTIAL when it comes to their brittle egos. Though they will let third rate dictators take potshots at our country with impunity and JOIN in the bullying & dissing by Chavez, Fidel, Zapatero, Morales and other banana leftists.

Their "offense" against Sarah Palin was offensive on purpose, it is their trademark now.

This is the party that "Borked" Robert Bork's nomination and stomped on Clarence Thomas' nominations and engaged in the "politics of personal destruction" of probably countless other Republican nominees whose nominations are still held up by democrats!

If it means anything, I spent all of today traveling to and around Amherst and Hadley, Massachusetts. Amherst is the home of the University of Massachusetts, Amherst College, and Hampshire College. In all my driving around I saw one McCain lawn sign (small) and no signs for Obama at all (though I did see two of those in Claremont, NH a couple of days ago big enough to qualify as billboards in many towns). No bumper stickers.

389 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:21:07pm

In a dogfight, cooler heads end up on their opponents six and excitable rookies end up with a missile up it. Don't look now Bambi, but your wingman is fixing his hairpiece, false teeth, and cufflinks.

390 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:21:18pm

re: #324 Dark_Falcon

I say, feed Putin to the 'Cuda.

391 kynna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:21:42pm

re: #378 HBob

When Obama says about the surge - “I’ve already said it’s succeeded beyond our wildest dreams” it shows how surprised he is when the military succeeds. He expects failure from the military. He doesn't think they are competent. And I guess Obama wants us to think that those who supported the surge were just trying the surge without any expectations of success. A lucky "Oh, what the f*ck!" moment in history.

You think this a**hat will ever use the military for anything other than humanitarian aid delivery?

What a f*cking tool.

Anyone who wants to see what will happen to the military under Obama just needs to read/watch Black Hawk Down. That was Clinton's show and Obama is promising more of the same.

392 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:21:48pm
393 SecondComing  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:22:08pm

re: #321 Kenneth

Q: Tell me, who & what made that possible?

A: John McCain and the Surge.

But Obama is still against it. If Obama had his way, and had blocked the surge, we would be looking at an ongoing genocide, a civil war and a wider regional war in the Middle East right now.

And Biden would have had Iraq split up. hmmm...Segregation?

what a couple of dolts.

394 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:22:21pm

re: #385 Age Of Freedom


Wait! They all are NOT part of the same ideology. Just like there are uninvolved or "reform" Jews or Christians....there are the equivalent in Muslims. There are many perfectly fine Muslims!

395 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:22:21pm

re: #343 Lynn B.

You're whipping me around, LB!
Made me feel better re one post, then hit me w/ that one!

Israel and the US have to get their act together.
They have to get past leftist idiocy.

396 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:22:40pm

re: #309 WrathofG-d

tap, tap, tap....this thing on?

Some Good Old Russian Propaganda: Putin Single Handedly Defeats Tiger In The Wild.

He must have put that out there to counter Sarah's deer-slaying bona fides. Next up, Li'l Kim fillets a polar bear.

397 daddyo  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:22:42pm

re: #379 kansas

I refused to listen to O'Reilly's interview with Obama...


It seems most of you folks don't like O'Reilly, but has any other media person conducted a tougher harder-hitting interview of Obama?

At least O'Reilly got him to admit the Surge worked "beyond our wildest dreams".

398 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:22:50pm

re: #388 galloping granny

If it means anything, I spent all of today traveling to and around Amherst and Hadley, Massachusetts. Amherst is the home of the University of Massachusetts, Amherst College, and Hampshire College. In all my driving around I saw one McCain lawn sign (small) and no signs for Obama at all (though I did see two of those in Claremont, NH a couple of days ago big enough to qualify as billboards in many towns). No bumper stickers.

Interesting!

By the way, you get me fearsomely homesick when you write about New England!

399 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:22:52pm

Obviously, the pro-Palin posts on Oprah's site are Rove's work
/

400 Intrepid  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:23:18pm

Oh now, these are particularly fun to make NOW!

Hep!

401 looking closely  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:23:26pm

re: #312 Iron Fist

That's a good question, especially given the fact that the Russians and the French were already playing fast and loose with the "sanctions". What would be left of those sanctions today if the US had backed down? What would be going on in Saddam's WMD factories today if we haddn't gone to war?

I'm sure O'Reilly won't ask Obama these questions, but they were questions that needed to be answered before the decision was made to rashly turn away from a necessary war.


Whether the war in Iraq was "necessary", is somewhat of a semantic and normative issue, but it is pretty clear that things deteriorated to the point where sanctions weren't working, so it was either depose Hussein by force, continue the sham, or effectively release him.

It also bears repeating that the major responsibility for the war falls squarely on Saddam Hussein himself. He made the bluff, we called the bluff. If he had simply permitted unfettered inspections, he'd not only still be in power, he'd have had all sanctions removed at this point.

The point is, even knowing what we know now (or what we think we now know), that Hussein didn't have a working stash of WMD, you could *still* make a pretty strong case for an invasion given his personal history an inadequacy of oversight.

Now, you could make a case that in terms of military priority, Iraq shouldn't have been at the top of the list (I'm looking at Iran here), but that's sort of a different argument.

402 turn  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:23:30pm

I watched this O'r clip last night and started thinking back about the success of the surge. McCain might have been calling for the surge long before Bush but as it turns out my first recollection of a call for a "surge" on Baghdad came from Omar at Iraq the Model. It took a while to find the post I was thinking about and I'm probably on a dead thread by now but here it is "The battle for Baghdad":

[Link: iraqthemodel.blogspot.com...]

He had the wisdom to realize the importance of securing Baghdad back in May of 06.

403 runrabbitrun  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:23:42pm

re: #220 mbabbitt

Just an elaboration: The war went badly -- which Bush finally had to admit but then he did change his action by ordering the Surge.....

O'Reilly laid off too soon. He forgot to ask Obama what would have happened in Iraq had we not had the surge, as Barry preferred, and what Barry would have done about the consequences.

404 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:23:52pm

re: #385 Age Of Freedom

0bama doesn't believe all the Islamists are part of the same ideology.

This, is where he's fatally wrong.

Obama would have a much clearer understanding if he had grown up with siblings. I might hate my sister's guts, but don't you dare touch her because she is MY sister. I think that attitude is going to play big come November too.

405 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:23:57pm

re: #357 Celtic Templar

That's what Whoopi believes:
Palin's speech sounds like a Bund rally

WTF does Whoopi mean by Bund? The logical thing is the German American Bund, which had all but disappeared more than a decade before she was born in 1955.

This is the sound made by a whoopi cushion, not someone with an intellect.

406 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:24:23pm

re: #357 Celtic Templar

That's what Whoopi believes:
Palin's speech sounds like a Bund rally

I don't listen to people who don't have eyebrows.

407 Dead Sea Squirrel  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:24:35pm

OT, but in case you hadn't heard, McCain's acceptance speech drew more viewers than Obama's

[Link: www.thrfeed.com...]

408 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:24:49pm

re: #357 Celtic Templar

That's what Whoopi believes:
Palin's speech sounds like a Bund rally

Quote from that link:

'I just found the whole thing sad and very musty and very much like a Bund rally, but maybe that was just me.'
Yep, Whoopsie, that was just you ...

409 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:24:52pm

re: #396 doppelganglander

What cracks me up about that article is that they claim that Putin was able to react extremely quickly and shoot the tiger with a dart.

Yea, right, like Putin was walking around randomly with a camera crew, through the forest with a dart gun on him....and then just coincidently happened to be there when a tiger attacked.

410 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:24:52pm

re: #328 galloping granny

Something else that I find very telling and very dangerous about Obama is his propensity to consider even the slightest criticism or difference in point of view a personal attack, his complete inability to brush anything at all off and the fact that he simply must respond to everything.


In many mechanics, there is a control loop: whatever measured value gets off-target, an action is taken to correct. Over-corrections are common and the controls then correct the other way. The end result is something that looks like a decaying sine wave.

This is a good thing, and symbolically represents what democracy and good advisors do for a country that gets offtrack. And they ALL get offtrack, because we are all human. So a mechanism is needed to get back on-track.

But a dictator does not listen to correction. His underlings are afraid to report things going wrong. This is a recipe for disaster because there is no control, no correction when offtrack, so that errors multiply and grow until it explodes.

Bottom line: taking criticism is VITAL.

411 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:24:58pm

re: #385 Age Of Freedom

0bama doesn't believe all the Islamists are part of the same ideology.

This, is where he's fatally wrong.


Fatally for us if he is elected. He'll just wear his garb and visit the 57 states.

412 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:25:25pm
413 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:26:25pm

re: #369 galloping granny

re: #392 ploome hineni

Don't you know Republicans are Nazis?

/

414 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:26:40pm

re: #372 HoosierHoops

{goddess{
what up? how did it go today in the classroom?

{HoosierHoops}

Good day, good week--but staying up to watch the convention has wiped me out!

415 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:26:45pm

re: #315 Alouette

She must be a race traitor, married to a half-breed Eskimo.

OK. That tears it. I personally am 1/32 (maybe 1/16) "Native", which apparently makes me a "teensy breed?"?

One day, Todd Palin will be First Dude.
He will, while learning "First Dudeshipness", become far more sophisticated, and far more elegant as a result of the learning experience. He will have access to elegant surroundings, and exposure to highly educated people.

As an avid boating enthusiast, he will have access to currently unavailable opportunities.
Instead of taking kids on his fishing boat, he will be able to take advantage of the finer, more polished opportunities, such as obtaining membership in a Yacht Club.

And when that happens, he will be proud of his Red Sons of the Sailset.

And that is how an Indian properly addresses such scurrilous remarks.
(/, if you didn't get it)