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Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:52:55 am PDT

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1 marsl  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:53:47am

Obama? I love McCain.

2 sadhu  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:54:40am

2 dolts

3 zombie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:55:50am

O'Bama on O'Reilly? Faith and begorrah, it must be St. Paddy's Day!

4 pegcity  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:56:14am

perverted the faith of islam

buzz, wrong

Try again

5 MacDuff  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:56:40am

I'm amazed that both of those egos could even fit in the same room.

6 kynna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:56:41am

Uh ... uh... uh ...

He doesn't say anything at all. Nothing.

"Weren't working as closely as we should have with the Europeans ..."

Ugh. The Europeans were making money off Saddam Hussein. Duh.

7 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:56:47am

A talking head and a talking ass.

8 marsl  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:56:55am

For me (i'm a Portuguese), the consequences of a Obama victory would be few.. but for you, American Lizards, the consequences would be disastrous. Not because of Obama, but because of those who are behind him.

9 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:56:57am

Bill. *smack* Stop interrupting him when he's making an ass of himself.

10 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:57:08am

Wasn't there a football game on last night? Vandy beating up on the Gamecocks or something?

11 zombie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:57:17am

I refuse to actually watch it. If O'Reilly fails to rip O'Bama a new lie-hole, then he will have revealed himself to be nothing more than yet another MSM hack.

Tell me how it goes.

12 Racer X  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:57:29am

Bill pretends to be tough, and Obama pretends to be presidential.

13 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:57:31am

I heard a clip of this earlier today, with Obama explaining how the fact that he was completely wrong about the surge proves that he was, er, right. Or something like that.

14 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:57:43am

IMO, this was a setup ... they had Megyn Kelley and Newt Gingrich on with their b&tchslap of the media (Kelley with US, Newt with NBC). Then they had liberal women, who tied themselves up in knots talking about Palin.

Then Obama comes out and OReilly forces "the surge worked beyond his wildest dreams" ... Too bad that the biggest proponent of it was ... McCain and opponent was ... Obama. Then the speeches - I actually wish this preceded Rudy's speech, that would be theater. And don't think that every lib in the country wasn't watching that interview.

15 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:57:50am

Not interested in either of those assholes

16 kynna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:58:08am

O'Reilly agrees that Iraq was the 'wrong battlefield'. I repeat what I said the other day. He is a dullard. With everything we know now, it was very much the RIGHT battlefield.

I say it again. Ugh and Duh. That's for both of them. Twits.

17 sadhu  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:58:39am

heard O'Reilly re: #11 zombie

I refuse to actually watch it.

same

18 Racer X  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:58:44am

re: #11 zombie

Bill revealed himself to be nothing more than yet another MSM hack

19 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:58:53am

re: #3 zombie

O'Bama on O'Reilly? Faith and begorrah, it must be St. Paddy's Day!

Sing!

20 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 11:59:22am

re: #13 Occasional Reader

I heard a clip of this earlier today, with Obama explaining how the fact that he was completely wrong about the surge proves that he was, er, right. Or something like that.

I watched it. O'Reilly let him spin.

21 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:00:03pm

re: #11 zombie

I refuse to actually watch it. If O'Reilly fails to rip O'Bama a new lie-hole, then he will have revealed himself to be nothing more than yet another MSM hack.

Tell me how it goes.

yep. If Charles can stomach it, I'd love to hear his review. But I won't watch it even on YouTube.

22 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:00:21pm

But O'R is fair with his tie. Neither red nor blue, it is purple.

/

23 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:00:38pm

re: #11 zombie

I refuse to actually watch it. If O'Reilly fails to rip O'Bama a new lie-hole, then he will have revealed himself to be nothing more than yet another MSM hack.

Tell me how it goes.

One big yawn.
Better write another report in the time saved by not watching this ...

Btw (I watched it earlier this morning) - has B0 shrunk?

24 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:00:41pm
25 701c  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:00:46pm

CommonDreams Dissent over Palin

"Do not forget that the Obama groupies were even harsher in their sexist/misogynist attacks of Hillary Clinton than the Republicans were. I can't blame the Republicans for taunting them .... try to do it again with Palin."

26 kynna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:01:05pm

re: #11 zombie

I refuse to actually watch it.

Ack! You're right! I said yesterday I wanted O'Reilly to get tumbleweeds and crickets out of this interview and there I went and watched it.

*head desk*

27 DVAPREZ  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:01:09pm

My teenage son makes a better candidate than Obama, he's got a bunch of community org time on his resume too!

28 so.cal.swede  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:01:26pm

what i find found interesting and funny, is that the Democrats have since 2001 berated GW Bush for going to Iraq "to steal their oil"

In this interview, Obama basically said he wanted to go with O'Reilly to Iraq and get the oil.


SAY WHAT NOW?

29 Spider Mensch  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:02:13pm

hmmph...smug-a-palozza..the moron leading the moronic. here's a clift note version...
oreilly:blahblah bloviate, senator blah, blah.c'mon senator..blah blah"
obamicus:err,ummm,err,ummm, iraq bad..err ummm...

/.75 cents please?

30 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:02:38pm

Obama's refusal to admit he was wrong to vote against the surge was very revealing. He kept harping on the idea that we the Iraqis are not taking the responsibility over there. This despite the fact that we just handed over another territory to them. He just can not accept that he might have been wrong.

31 Dartmouth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:02:59pm

Would've liked to see Bill drill down on Barry O's "present" votes in the Senate. The guy has no backbone when it comes to sticking to your guns.

32 so.cal.swede  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:03:07pm

re: #29 Spider Mensch

hmmph...smug-a-palozza..the moron leading the moronic. here's a clift note version...
oreilly:blahblah bloviate, senator blah, blah.c'mon senator..blah blah"
obamicus:err,ummm,err,ummm, iraq bad..err ummm...

/.75 cents please?

best oreilly impression ever made! "c'mon senator"

33 esch  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:03:45pm

So did oBambi have that 'deer-in-the-headlights' look yet?

I won't watch it.

34 rasachema  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:03:53pm

this does NOT help Barry.

35 NYC_MIke  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:03:55pm

As usual O'Reilly makes it all about him. Personally I thing he's a big phony douchebag - but that's just me!
Two thoughts

About 1 min in Obama says that Iran is a "major" threat.

What OReily SHOULD have followed up with -
"But Senator - a few weeks ago on the campaign trail you said that Iran was not a big threat, since is was such a small country. Why the turnaround?

About a minute later Obama mentioned that he felt we haven't exhausted diplomacy.

What OReily should have said - "Senator, do you really feel Pres Amadenajad (sp) a man who regularly calls for was with the west and the destruction of Israel will be swayed by diplomacy"

Why won't ANYONE in the press - really ask this guy hard, direct questions?
Are they really all afraid of being called racist?

36 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:03:57pm

This man wants to be President? He sure doesn't act Presidential. He's a chump. He will be exposed in the debate. McCain won't let him off the way O'Reilly did.

37 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:04:07pm

re: #30 Ford_Prefect

Obama's refusal to admit he was wrong to vote against the surge was very revealing. He kept harping on the idea that we the Iraqis are not taking the responsibility over there. This despite the fact that we just handed over another territory to them. He just can not accept that he might have been wrong.

Not just any territory. It was Anbar.

38 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:04:15pm

I'd actually rather do laundry than watch those two guys, which is a good thing seeing as I have a lot of laundry to do.

But Barry's internal poll numbers must be terrible for him to agree to do this interview, right?

39 so.cal.swede  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:04:17pm

re: #33 esch

So did oBambi have that 'deer-in-the-headlights' look yet?

I won't watch it.

watch it. Obama admits he wants to go to Iraq and take their oil (money)

40 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:04:26pm

re: #25 701c

"Do not forget that the Obama groupies were even harsher in their sexist/misogynist attacks of Hillary Clinton than the Republicans were.

And correspondingly, in a MSM piece about racism showing up in Obama opponents, every simple example they had was either a Hillary supporter or unknown. And, for example, one of the unknowns was a union boss. You guess if he ususally votes Republican.

41 LegendXXX  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:04:41pm

Until or unless he asks the question that NEEDS asking and refuses to accept a non-answer, I'll have ZERO respect for Bill the walking ego. That question is:

On (insert date) you said (insert statement - "pull out of NAFTA" for instance) and on (insert other date) you said (insert contradictory statement). Were you lying then or are you lying now?

He didn't do it with Clinton and I'm sure he didn't do it with Obama. He's an ass.

42 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:05:08pm

re: #34 rasachema

this does NOT help Barry.

How about Michelle's children?

43 701c  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:05:08pm

Chicken Hawk!

44 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:05:09pm

re: #35 NYC_MIke

As usual O'Reilly makes it all about him. Personally I thing he's a big phony douchebag - but that's just me!
Two thoughts

About 1 min in Obama says that Iran is a "major" threat.

What OReily SHOULD have followed up with -
"But Senator - a few weeks ago on the campaign trail you said that Iran was not a big threat, since is was such a small country. Why the turnaround?

About a minute later Obama mentioned that he felt we haven't exhausted diplomacy.

What OReily should have said - "Senator, do you really feel Pres Amadenajad (sp) a man who regularly calls for was with the west and the destruction of Israel will be swayed by diplomacy"

Why won't ANYONE in the press - really ask this guy hard, direct questions?
Are they really all afraid of being called racist?

ShortShit's easier to spell.

45 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:05:11pm

It's impossible to have a decent interview with Obama because he never stops spinning. And to have O'Reilly do the interviewing? Come on. To quote a Lizard from yesterday, he's got his nose so far up Obama's butt he can smell arugula.

46 kynna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:05:11pm

re: #30 Ford_Prefect

Obama's refusal to admit he was wrong to vote against the surge was very revealing. He kept harping on the idea that we the Iraqis are not taking the responsibility over there. This despite the fact that we just handed over another territory to them. He just can not accept that he might have been wrong.

It's a privilege of the left to never admit to being wrong and to pursue failed policies for eternity. Because they care.

47 Bobibutu  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:05:33pm

re: #11 zombie

I refuse to actually watch it. If O'Reilly fails to rip O'Bama a new lie-hole, then he will have revealed himself to be nothing more than yet another MSM hack.

Tell me how it goes.

I'm with you - I have watched/listened to 0bama in the past ... he says nothing ... the clouds will part ... and all the rest. BS

48 Piglet-U93  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:05:45pm

Obama said (in this interview) Islam has been "perverted" by the terrorists. He is copying Bush so its really more of the same, yes?

Do you know of any real moderate Muslims who abhore terrorism that do not have a fatwa death threat on them? Chew on that.

The largest Muslim anti-terror demonstration (since 9/11) against Islamic Jihad had a total of 50 people. Swallow that one.

49 so.cal.swede  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:06:15pm

Glenn Beck vs. Obama


DISCUSS!

50 hazzyday  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:06:33pm

re: #16 kynna

O'Reilly agrees that Iraq was the 'wrong battlefield'. I repeat what I said the other day. He is a dullard. With everything we know now, it was very much the RIGHT battlefield.

I say it again. Ugh and Duh. That's for both of them. Twits.

I think Iraq is the perfect place to fight AL Quaida and it's supporters. Good logistics, geo poltical impact, and a meshing of cultures. The big war next door has an impact on a lot of people.

51 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:06:50pm

I know what Obama is, and nothing he could say would change my opinion of him. And I don't know enough about O'Reilly to really care to have an opinion of him.

52 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:06:52pm

Come on people. Some of you that are saying you won't watch Bill probably watch CNN or MSNBC or go to KOS to see what they are saying. I know O'Reilly is a blowhard and often very annoying, but he also has some good points on occasion. Is there something I don't know about that causes this dislike?

53 calcajun  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:07:34pm

OK-this is a political opportunist. He is saying the things he knows will appeal to what he thinks is O'Reilly's audience. I still say BHO is Chance the Gardener.

54 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:08:01pm

re: #35 NYC_MIke

Why won't ANYONE in the press - really ask this guy hard, direct questions?
Are they really all afraid of being called racist?


Yes. You asking why no one will ask hard, direct questions is racist.
/

55 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:08:19pm

re: #37 MandyManners

Not just any territory. It was Anbar.

Which brings us to our bonus question:

Who is a better "community organizer", Barack Obama or David Petraeus?

56 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:08:35pm

I think the Sarah 'barracuda' video is no longer on Youtube. It still is at floppingaces but not on youtube.
Interesting

57 Spenser (with an S)  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:08:39pm

So, does anyone have any facts to refute or put into context the statement that the Iraqis are selling lots of oil and not paying their past or current obligations to us?

58 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:09:15pm

re: #37 MandyManners

Not just any territory. It was Anbar.

That's it! Couldn't remember the name...

Clue bat please.

59 LegendXXX  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:09:18pm

re: #44 MandyManners

ShortShit's easier to spell.

Or Ahmadinnerjacket

60 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:09:22pm

re: #25 701c

Um, calling Sarah Palin the Spiro Agnew of 1968 is not a compliment.

61 kynna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:09:28pm

re: #50 hazzyday

I think Iraq is the perfect place to fight AL Quaida and it's supporters. Good logistics, geo poltical impact, and a meshing of cultures. The big war next door has an impact on a lot of people.

Exactly. They keep saying it was the 'wrong battlefield' but they have never explained why. Because that would pin them down and they couldn't spin. The whys are so darn vague they can change with the wind. That may make a good politician or talk show host but it sure doesn't make a good president.

62 zombie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:09:40pm

Did he ask this question:

"Senator Obama, is it true that you had your first political "coming out party" in the home of William Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, who sponsored your first political run for office, and who referred to you as "our man"? Wasn't Ayers once described as your "political mentor"? Were you unaware of their political affiliations at the time? And do you categorically and publicly now repudiate Ayers and Dorhn and everything they stand for?"

If not, then I don't want to hear about it.

63 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:09:45pm

re: #60 funky chicken

ech Spiro Agnew of 2008

64 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:10:05pm

re: #55 Occasional Reader

Which brings us to our bonus question:

Who is a better "community organizer", Barack Obama or David Petraeus?

Obama counts running his campaign as administrative experience. Talk about a circular argument.

65 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:10:06pm

re: #46 kynna

It's a privilege of the left to never admit to being wrong and to pursue failed policies for eternity. Because they care.

Too bad they don't care about being right.

66 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:10:25pm

re: #8 marsl

For me (i'm a Portuguese), the consequences of a Obama victory would be few.. but for you, American Lizards, the consequences would be disastrous. Not because of Obama, but because of those who are behind him.

Precisely. It's the same reason I voted against John Kerry - not because I like Bush, but because I saw all the raving nutcases out on the streets, and all the Clinton operatives in the back rooms, waiting in the wings to repeat 1992-2000. No thanks.

Marxism cannot win a U.S. Presidency. Please, G-d, we can't have it.

67 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:10:58pm

re: #62 zombie

Did he ask this question:

"Senator Obama, is it true that you had your first political "coming out party" in the home of William Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, who sponsored your first political run for office, and who referred to you as "our man"? Wasn't Ayers once described as your "political mentor"? Were you unaware of their political affiliations at the time? And do you categorically and publicly now repudiate Ayers and Dorhn and everything they stand for?"

No, he did not ask.

68 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:11:17pm

re: #62 zombie

Did he ask this question:

"Senator Obama, is it true that you had your first political "coming out party" in the home of William Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, who sponsored your first political run for office, and who referred to you as "our man"? Wasn't Ayers once described as your "political mentor"? Were you unaware of their political affiliations at the time? And do you categorically and publicly now repudiate Ayers and Dorhn and everything they stand for?"

If not, then I don't want to hear about it.

How about 10 short questions starting with "When did you meet William Ayers?"

How many times did he interview you before hiring you to be the executive director of his Chicago Annenberg Challenge?

and proceed from there.....

69 wintercat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:11:27pm

re: #8 marsl

You, my friend, are a very astute person. It is the people behind Obama that concern me greatly too. However, I must correct you on your first statement. I would not underestimate the impact of the demise of capitalism in America. If America falls to socialism/communism (and I believe under Obama the transition will be rapid and complete) there is no telling what will happen to the rest of the world.

70 kuffar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:11:54pm

He is an empty, stage handed suit who has formed around him a cabal of ne'er-do-wells, criminals, thugs, left wing wackos, religious nutjobs (some for 20 years) and communists.

It is amazing he might get elected.

Donna Brazile said if he is elected nothing is going to change... Hmmm.

RICO investigations.

71 SummerSong  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:12:01pm

Barack gesticulates well beyond his personal space.

72 last call  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:12:03pm

interesting how obama thought that it wouldn't be prudent for the president to tip his hand with regards to any military action with iran [2:39 in]. unless i'm mistaken, we've had over 7 years of leakage from known and unknown sources - with the aim of sabotaging the bush administration.

73 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:12:13pm

re: #62 zombie

Did he ask this question:

"Senator Obama, is it true that you had your first political "coming out party" in the home of William Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, who sponsored your first political run for office, and who referred to you as "our man"? Wasn't Ayers once described as your "political mentor"? Were you unaware of their political affiliations at the time? And do you categorically and publicly now repudiate Ayers and Dorhn and everything they stand for?"

If not, then I don't want to hear about it.

Not in this instalment - but there will be more next week, and he says they'll be 'meatier' or something like that ...

74 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:13:19pm

re: #68 funky chicken

How about 10 short questions starting with "When did you meet William Ayers?"

How many times did he interview you before hiring you to be the executive director of his Chicago Annenberg Challenge?

and proceed from there.....

The interview is being stretched over four nights. Supposedly he gets to the Ayers questions on Tuesday.

75 scofflaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:13:36pm
"The surge succeeded beyond everyone's wildest imagination."

What BHO is trying to say is "McCain was for it but didn't think it would work either so our views were really no different." McCain just got lucky... essentially, "he called heads, I called tails no one could have known that heads was going to come up though." How pathetic. He even says in the interview that McCain/Bush didn't think the surge would have worked this well.

76 701c  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:13:37pm

re: #40 Silhouette

And correspondingly, in a MSM piece about racism showing up in Obama opponents, every simple example they had was either a Hillary supporter or unknown. And, for example, one of the unknowns was a union boss. You guess if he ususally votes Republican.

How about this?

"Wow, just as I figured the charges of Misogyny are starting to fly just like they were when Hillary was running. I honestly don't know which is worse: The Naderites or Uber-feminists. Even here on CD an attack, not on her person, but on her stand on the issues will is met with words like "bigot" and "misogynist".

To me this has nothing to do with her being a woman and everything to do with her being a right-wing asshole."

77 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:13:41pm

re: #36 HelloDare

This man wants to be President? He sure doesn't act Presidential. He's a chump. He will be exposed in the debate. McCain won't let him off the way O'Reilly did.

This man wants to be the leader of the free world? Free for how long?

-- Zell Miller

78 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:13:44pm

re: #73 yma o hyd

Not in this instalment - but there will be more next week, and he says they'll be 'meatier' or something like that ...


Good grief! With both of them yakking at the same time, they sucked all the oxygen from the room! *wheeze*

79 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:13:54pm

When I read the below report that last night's interruption was conspired by operative(s) at MSNBC, I came to the conclusion that NBC may be guilty of contributing to criminal violations that should put their license in jeopardy. Enough is enough. This network is now violating FCC by actively campaigning for a political party. Is anyone listening? It is time to fight.

Report:

Did the Code Pink members who interrupted John McCain's speech last night use MSNBC press badges to get into the hall? Not according to Code Pink itself, which claims the two women "obtained passes to the convention from disaffected Republicans."

Right.

There is another much more intriguing explanation out there. According to Shay at Booker Rising, which describes itself a newsite for black moderates and black conservatives [emphasis added]:


I took the shuttle bus back to Minneapolis, and I overheard a convention organizer named Phil telling a convention delegate that the protesters on Wednesday night got through because of media credentials that were traced back to MSNBC (he told her that each credential has an individual bar code for each convention invitee). They suspect MSNBC this time as well.

80 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:14:11pm

re: #16 kynna

I completely agree. All of the terrorists killed in Iraq had to be killed somewhere. Better Iraq than, say, Florida. Iraq was a festering boil that needed to be lanced for the good of everyone concerned. Except the al Qaeda types and their fellow travelers. The latter would include the Democrat Party.

81 Colin Nelson  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:14:31pm

Right OHB. Put more pressure on Pakistan or, we'll cut all military (and other) aid.
Oh yea!
Please tell me just what pressure would work in a radically islamic country of 170 million with nuclear weapons that hates the West and the USA in particular and almost forgot, with an intelligence service that comprises one third of the armed forces, the ISI, which in fact helped create the Taliban.

Good luck with that pressure.

And oh yea, just what are you going to do after you cut off the military and other aid?

Another prime example of the folly of style over substance.

82 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:14:53pm

re: #77 midwestgak

I just listened to that Zell Miller speech again. Great.

83 Cato  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:14:59pm

Please note that while Obama would not take the military option off the table, he wouldn't say he would prepare for it. Isn't that what makes the option effect, if your enemy knows you are prepared to do something to them?

84 LegendXXX  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:15:01pm

re: #69 wintercat

You, my friend, are a very astute person. It is the people behind Obama that concern me greatly too. However, I must correct you on your first statement. I would not underestimate the impact of the demise of capitalism in America. If America falls to socialism/communism (and I believe under Obama the transition will be rapid and complete) there is no telling what will happen to the rest of the world.

I disagree. I think America is strong enough to survive 4-8 years of BO. It would hurt though...

85 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:15:04pm

re: #7 MrSilverDragon

A talking head and a talking ass.

Two of each.

86 rasachema  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:15:16pm

re: #42 Silhouette

well, I think all children are beautiful, but Barry is a duma$$ and fell for this trick. his cook base never wanted him on FNC.

87 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:15:32pm

Leave Bill O'Reilly alone. LEAVE HIM ALONE!
/

88 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:15:36pm

HAH! The NYT already notes where the real fight is, and that Obama has already lost the media.

The real battle?

It's Hillary v. Palin.

The candidate that the Democrats (and the NYT among others) shafted versus Palin, the most popular politician in the nation. It's not even about Obama v. McCain. McCain's maverick choice has totally screwed with the media and the Democrats in ways I'm just beginning to enjoy.

Popcorn anyone?

89 cliffster  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:15:45pm

I think Bill-O handles the high-profile politicians with kid gloves, as he has to if he ever wants to have any more on his show. So they usually get off relatively unscathed. I think he was equally gentle with BO, but BO still came off looking pretty foolish. Imagine if Bill gave him the treatment he gives to those he doesn't have to suck up to?

90 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:15:49pm

re: #85 Son of the Black Dog

Two of each.

Precisely. :)

91 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:16:10pm

re: #74 Ford_Prefect

The interview is being stretched over four nights. Supposedly he gets to the Ayers questions on Tuesday.

I wouldn't bank on it ...

But here's an odd thing which struck me: Murdoch - alledgedly - supports B0.
His papers in the UK (The SUN, The Times) seem to be quite enamoured with Sarah Palin. Its interesting because other MSM (and the Beeb) are fully in the B0 camp.

92 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:16:29pm

re: #9 Fat Jolly Penguin

Bill. *smack* Stop interrupting him when he's making an ass of himself.

Bill stop talking? Are you kidding?

93 JohnSteele  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:16:37pm

O'Reilly talks like he doesn't take any BS, and he doesn't. He presses hard for straight answers and doesn't let people fumble their way out of his questions --- provided its Maude Smith from Long Island or Tom Jones from Iowa. But anyone who is "important" always get a pass from O'Reilly. He never follows-up to press for the truth or what's really behind an answer when its one of America's "princes" in the box.

And, like the blatter on the Sunday talk shows the reason is the same --- he wants the "prince" to come back on the show so he cuts them plenty of slack so they don't make fools out of themselves. Remember, p*ss them off and they avoid your show. Truth and information for, what O'Reilly likes to call "the folks", is the furthest thing from his mind.

If O'Reilly used the same technique on Obama that Megyn Kelly did on the weasel from "Us Weekly" Obama would have to withdraw from the race. O'Reilly is just hot air.

94 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:16:37pm

re: #52 Ford_Prefect

How about the fact that he has been kissing up to Obama on his radio show since at least March or April? I used to catch it while driving my kids to their afternoon activities.

In addition, how about the fact that he chose to announce and air his interview on the same day as McCain's acceptance speech? I heard him give many callers the brush off when they would try to bring up the Chicago Annenberg Challenge way back in May. It's September now, and apparently nobody on his staff bothered to do any research on it?

If I want to watch BarryO publicity I can watch MSNBC.

95 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:16:51pm

re: #92 Son of the Black Dog

Bill stop talking? Are you kidding?

I stand corrected.

96 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:16:52pm

re: #64 HelloDare

Obama counts running his campaign as administrative experience. Talk about a circular argument.

He's not running his campaign. His campaign manager is running it.

97 reggie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:16:56pm

re: #62 zombie

Did he ask this question:

"Senator Obama, is it true that you had your first political "coming out party" in the home of William Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, who sponsored your first political run for office, and who referred to you as "our man"? Wasn't Ayers once described as your "political mentor"? Were you unaware of their political affiliations at the time? And do you categorically and publicly now repudiate Ayers and Dorhn and everything they stand for?"

If not, then I don't want to hear about it.

If not, then you SHOULD want to hear about. All about it. All day, all night, all networks. Yes, by all means let everyone hear this sham defend his shameful position. It's the only thing that can damage him more than Palin can.

98 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:17:02pm

re: #82 HelloDare

I have listened to it on occasion for the past 4 years. Have a lot of it permanently imprinted on my brain.

Against! Against! Against!

:)

99 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:17:13pm

re: #75 scofflaw

He even says in the interview that McCain/Bush didn't think the surge would have worked this well.

For some reason I'm reminded of Homer Simpson growling "stupid, sexy Flanders!"

But then, LOTS of things remind me of "The Simpsons".

100 Guy_Montag  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:17:21pm

I thought it was an interesting segment. Bill came off as very aggressive, which was a mistake I believe. And Barack made some comments that need to be deciphered -- everything he says needs to be deciphered. He’s a very slick politician, very Clintonian. I need to watch it a few times, he may have mentioned Government Cheese and a Five-Year Plan; I don't recall.

101 beens21  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:17:39pm

re: #62 zombie

O'Reilly said that those topics will come up next Tue.

102 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:18:07pm

re: #8 marsl

Right from the start I was suspicious of who was behind Obama, because of all the co-ordinated and instantly appearing signs, bumper stickers, book, and media coverage. It was orchestrated by whom? No-one would claim that.

Certainly the regular common people weren't behind him, and I felt very manipulated.

103 Asmodeus  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:18:28pm

You can clearly see that Mr. Barely is aging from the process. However, from the follow-up question about Iran being a major component of terrorism, you can clearly see the gears working in Mr. Barely's vacuous head to try and spin this to the point that saying Iran isn't a part of the same terrorist network, which is clearly is under the Bush Doctrine Axis of evil. Aside from the fact that they fund Hizballah and HAMAS, this bufoon wants to downplay that Iran has been calling for the death of America since 1977. This douche is an outgrowth of Jimmy Carter's failed foreign policy and you can see it in the way he tries to nuance his way to a non-answer answer.

104 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:19:03pm

re: #87 Slumbering Behemoth

Leave Bill O'Reilly alone. LEAVE HIM ALONE!
/

*whack*

105 Spider Mensch  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:19:11pm

re: #83 Cato

Please note that while Obama would not take the military option off the table, he wouldn't say he would prepare for it. Isn't that what makes the option effect, if your enemy knows you are prepared to do something to them?


hows he going to prepare when he plans to cut the military to carter levels or worse? can obama make thanksgiving dinner with 2 saltines and 3 olives? well he is the messiah, 5 loaves and 3 fishes and obama can feed the multitudes I forgot..

/eye roll

106 cblesz  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:19:15pm

O'Reilly is full of crap. He was soft and let him off the hook. he also says that he asks him about Ayers, Wright, Rezko, etc and it is interesting. Sure, it is Bill...we shall see. I am sure you gave him a chance to get off the hook and put it to bed. Wait for the "OIL COMPANIES ARE EEEEEVIL"

107 cliffster  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:19:16pm

re: #64 HelloDare

Obama counts running his campaign as administrative experience. Talk about a circular argument.

I suppose arguing with the voices in his head counts as foreign policy experience, too?

108 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:19:18pm

re: #78 scottishbuzzsaw

Good grief! With both of them yakking at the same time, they sucked all the oxygen from the room! *wheeze*

Dunno if youv'e got any rottweiler-types doing political interviews on TV - here we've got one, and Englishman by name of Jeremy Paxman.
Pity he like the other Beeb guys are so enamoured with the LLL agenda ...

109 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:19:26pm

When he talks about the 10s of billions of dollars in aid we "wasted" to give to Pakistan, how else would he have gained access to land locked Afghanistan, (which he said was the only war worth waging) without violating Pakistani airspace?

I am not even a military type and I can figure this stuff out.

110 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:19:26pm
111 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:20:10pm

re: #109 rawmuse

how else would he have gained access to land locked Afghanistan, (which he said was the only war worth waging) without violating Pakistani airspace?

We'd invade Pakistan, silly!

/

112 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:20:10pm
The oil market is starting to suffer from oversupply, the Libyan National Oil Corporation (NOC) chairman said on Friday, days before a key OPEC meeting on crude output levels.

"The market is well served and has even started to suffer from oversupply," said Shukri Ghanem, who also acts as the country's oil minister, adding that the Organisation of Oil Exporting Countries (OPEC) aimed to balance supply and demand.

"Prices have lowered and the supply is exceeding demand. The role of OPEC is to maintain the balance," he told AFP ahead of a meeting of the oil cartel in Vienna on Tuesday.

"But we are not going to make decisions before studying the the market situation," the economic committee report and the opinions of member countries, he added.

Oil prices fell below 105 dollars on Friday with Brent North Sea crude for delivery in October dropping 1.45 dollars to 104.85 dollars a barrel in electronic deals.

New York's main contract, light sweet crude for October, fell 1.49 dollars to 106.40 dollars a barrel.

OPEC will meet amid speculation that the group, which produces 40 percent of the world's oil, may decide to cut output as prices edge toward 100 dollars.

Many analysts expect oil prices to continue to fall because of fears of recession in the United States and Europe.

Crude oil, which hit a record high 147.27 dollars on July 11 in New York, has lost nearly 40 dollars in less than two months.

Oil prices had broken through 100 dollars a barrel for the first time at the start of January on geo-political concerns, notably surrounding the ongoing nuclear power dispute between the West and Iran, which is a major producer and exporter of crude oil.


MUST. STOP. BAD. WORDS. FROM. ESCAPING...

113 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:20:15pm

re: #84 LegendXXX

We're still not over 4 years of Jimmy Carter. Obama promises that he will be worse.

114 701c  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:20:20pm

I think Obama did a good job of not looking like a liberal.

115 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:21:02pm

I think he's added silver to his hair again.

116 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:21:15pm

re: #62 zombie

He told Newt Gingrich that in the second installment on Monday night he did ask about Ayers ... I wonder if he asks about the cover up?

But giving Obama the chance to answer isn't the way to nail the guy ... He's a Chicago politician - he's crafty. He beat his last 2 opponents by his version of October surprises. I think the interview just shows how average he is, and that is good. Now Karl Rove has to get the machine running for his October surprise.

117 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:21:21pm

re: #30 Ford_Prefect

This is something that has fascinated me about the left for decades.
They cannot admit that they were ever wrong about anything.
LEFT means never having to say you're sorry.

118 zombie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:21:30pm

re: #101 beens21

O'Reilly said that those topics will come up next Tue.

I'll believe it when I hear it. I suspect they will be softball versions of the Ayers questions, designed to let Obama talk his way out of them.

119 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:21:41pm

re: #104 MandyManners

Harder! Harder!

120 protestshooter  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:22:06pm

re: #62 zombie

Chainsaws at the Berkeley Oak Grove! If you haven't made it down there yet, I'm sure it's going to be going on for quite a while. They're taking their time and doing it safely.

[Link: www.protestshooter.com...]

(I'm off to lunch now)

121 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:22:27pm

re: #79 wright1

Credit where credit's due: Blogger: RNC Organizer Said Protesters Had MSNBC Badges

122 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:23:16pm

re: #88 lawhawk

HAH! The NYT already notes where the real fight is, and that Obama has already lost the media.

The real battle?

It's Hillary v. Palin.

The candidate that the Democrats (and the NYT among others) shafted versus Palin, the most popular politician in the nation. It's not even about Obama v. McCain. McCain's maverick choice has totally screwed with the media and the Democrats in ways I'm just beginning to enjoy.

Popcorn anyone?

Is Hilary dumb enough to push her negatives even higher? If she really comes out strong against Palin, I think it proves that she doesn't intend to run for POTUS again. It also would indicate that she has her eye on Senate Majority Leader. The more "loyal" she appears to the democrat ticket, the stronger her case to depose Harry Reid.

123 Panhandler  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:23:24pm

re: #119 Slumbering Behemoth

Harder! Harder!


Since yuou feel that way, ---- NO!

124 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:23:51pm

re: #89 cliffster

I think Bill-O handles the high-profile politicians with kid gloves, as he has to if he ever wants to have any more on his show. So they usually get off relatively unscathed. I think he was equally gentle with BO, but BO still came off looking pretty foolish. Imagine if Bill gave him the treatment he gives to those he doesn't have to suck up to?

Do you really want him to treat Obama with the same disrespect he shows some of the other people he has on the show? Like it or not, the man may end up being our next President. None of us would be too happy if one of the liberal nutjobs out there treated McCain with obvious disrespect. Bill did try several times to get Obama to admit he had made a mistake on the surge, but Obama just wasn't going to do it. What is O'Reilly supposed to do? Get into a screaming match with the guy? He made his point by making it clear the Obama was refusing to admit the mistake and then he moved on.

125 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:24:40pm

re: #83 Cato

Please note that while Obama would not take the military option off the table, he wouldn't say he would prepare for it. Isn't that what makes the option effect, if your enemy knows you are prepared to do something to them?

Yep, 'tis so!

I think back to McCain's specch last night, when he said he hated war, after he'd talked about his family's and his sacrifices.
He made a pause - it was dead quiet, and everybody who wasn't a moron knew that McCain of all people did not have to say 'but we'll fight with all we have if we must'.

For me, that was the 'speak softly but carry a big stick'- moment ...

Huge difference to B0 blathering on about military options on tables!

126 JohnSteele  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:24:42pm

re: #8 marsl

For me (i'm a Portuguese), the consequences of a Obama victory would be few.. but for you, American Lizards, the consequences would be disastrous. Not because of Obama, but because of those who are behind him.

Don't be too sure of that. The consequences for us will be staggering and immediate. The consequences for you will just be down the road a bit.

If America is emasculated the rest of the free world is in serious trouble, politically and economically.

127 cliffster  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:25:00pm

re: #124 Ford_Prefect

Do you really want him to treat Obama with the same disrespect he shows some of the other people he has on the show? Like it or not, the man may end up being our next President. None of us would be too happy if one of the liberal nutjobs out there treated McCain with obvious disrespect. Bill did try several times to get Obama to admit he had made a mistake on the surge, but Obama just wasn't going to do it. What is O'Reilly supposed to do? Get into a screaming match with the guy? He made his point by making it clear the Obama was refusing to admit the mistake and then he moved on.

I didn't say I wanted him to treat him with the same disrespect, I said he didn't, and Obama still came off looking foolish.

128 hazzyday  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:25:04pm

re: #110 Ben Hur

Top 7 Myths, Lies and Untruths About Sarah Palin

An important web site. Needs to be the top 100 myths now.

I wonder if anyone has annotated the Obama connnection to dailykos yet? Obama is full of dirty political tricks.

129 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:25:26pm

re: #119 Slumbering Behemoth

Harder! Harder!

No.

130 Cato  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:25:26pm

On Palin and the Enquirer:

[Link: news.spreadit.org...]


Please note this is NOT on the Enquirer site. Time for Charles to figure out if some scoundrel did this.

131 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:25:28pm

re: #76 701c

How about this?

"Wow, just as I figured the charges of Misogyny are starting to fly just like they were when Hillary was running. I honestly don't know which is worse: The Naderites or Uber-feminists. Even here on CD an attack, not on her person, but on her stand on the issues will is met with words like "bigot" and "misogynist".

To me this has nothing to do with her being a woman and everything to do with her being a right-wing asshole."

If indeed honest non-gender-related criticisms of Palin are being met with accusations of sexism, then I'd have to agree with the writer that that would be wrong.

However, I've yet to see any of that. In a world as big as ours, I've no doubt that somewhere, someone on some blog posting made such a silly argument, but overall, I have NOT seen Palin being given that protected status.

I have seen genuine sexist attacks about Palin (why isn't she home with the kids, who will give Trig the care he needs, will she have time to serve, she just got where she is because she's a woman) where the attackers may not think they are being sexist, and therefore feel unjustly accused when they are called on it.

132 701c  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:25:58pm

I wish Obama was a conservative.

133 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:05pm

re: #8 marsl

For me (i'm a Portuguese), the consequences of a Obama victory would be few.. but for you, American Lizards, the consequences would be disastrous. Not because of Obama, but because of those who are behind him.

Obrigado por seu apoio e perspicácia!

134 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:10pm

re: #122 funky chicken

Maybe, just maybe, we can make that Senate Minority Leader. We really only have to shift the balence by one if we hold the Presidency. Wouldn't that just be precious?

135 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:17pm

re: #121 doppelganglander

Credit where credit's due: Blogger: RNC Organizer Said Protesters Had MSNBC Badges

Didn't know that - thanks, hat tip there - I am still angry as hell though!

136 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:28pm

re: #10 Fenway_Nation

Wasn't there a football game on last night? Vandy beating up on the Gamecocks or something?

The Nittally Lions are playing tomorrow. Or so Obama says.

137 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:30pm

re: #52 Ford_Prefect

Come on people. Some of you that are saying you won't watch Bill probably watch CNN or MSNBC or go to KOS to see what they are saying. I know O'Reilly is a blowhard and often very annoying, but he also has some good points on occasion. Is there something I don't know about that causes this dislike?

Well, he is a blowhard and very annoying. Also a bully who is in rapture at the sound of his own voice and frequently won't let his guests finish a statement even when they aren't spinning their points.

And furthermore, he's got it in for the SBVFT, and never fails to say that what they said about Kerry has been "discredited". I was never on a swift-boat, but I spent a lot of time in Vietnam and I know that Kerry is a lying POS and the swift-boat veterans got it right.

/rant off now!

138 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:38pm

re: #96 MandyManners

He's not running his campaign. His campaign manager is running it.

Yeah, Axelrod. Everybody says how well his campaign has been run. But the campaign for President really starts now. Let's see how well they do now.

139 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:42pm

re: #120 protestshooter

Tree sitters are terrified of guys in hard hats. Not just because of what they do to the grove, but because they represent the jobs they might have to get some day.

LOL! Poor babies...

140 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:42pm

A Palin convert
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

141 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:45pm

re: #116 Celtic Templar

Now Karl Rove has to get the machine running for his October surprise.

I forgot about that October surprise. He'll be able to come up with something juicy - so much about OB is lurking under some spider hole somewhere. Gotta be.

142 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:26:50pm

re: #123 Panhandler

re: #129 MandyManners

Teases, the both of you.
/s

143 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:27:00pm

re: #124 Ford_Prefect

I think people miss the point that O'Reilly is generally despised by the left. The sympathy that Obama would engender if O'Reilly attacked him would be noticeable. To me, the interview made Obama look average, like he was repeating talking points and really had no clue about foreign policy. There was not "there" there. But who is O'Reilly's normal audience, in general - center-right to right, I think. However, Obama on O'Reilly brings more center, center-left viewers. And Obama wasn't the godchild that they had heard he would be. Just another politician out of Chicago.

144 mattm  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:27:38pm

But he will go after Bin Laden, which will solve everything from Terroism, which doesn't exist and Global warming.

/sarc

145 zombie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:27:38pm

re: #120 protestshooter

Chainsaws at the Berkeley Oak Grove! If you haven't made it down there yet, I'm sure it's going to be going on for quite a while. They're taking their time and doing it safely.

[Link: www.protestshooter.com...]

(I'm off to lunch now)

Oooh! Though, unfortunately, I'm busy as hell today and can't make it over there. Thanks for notifying me.

146 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:27:39pm

Obama said the surge worked beyond anyone's wildest dreams thus including everyone in his position of doubt. And as Sarah Palin pointed out today, Obama was wrong about the surge and wrong about "everyone" being surprised that it worked so well. Only he and the Democrats were surprised.

147 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:27:49pm

Ah fuck, I should have read that

148 Cato  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:27:50pm

re: #125 yma o hyd


I wish O'Reily had asked him an easy question like: "Mr. Obama, which is bigger, a regiment or a battalion?"

BHO doesn't know. I don't know. But McCain would know.

149 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:27:58pm

re: #117 wolfie

This is something that has fascinated me about the left for decades.
They cannot admit that they were ever wrong about anything.
LEFT means never having to say you're sorry.

And they never promised us a rose garden.

150 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:28:07pm

re: #93 JohnSteele

I guarantee you he'd be tougher on McCain. Of course McCain would put him in his place....but still.

151 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:28:09pm

1. It’s important to have a woman, who helps at home, who cooks from time to time, cleans up and has a job.

2. It’s important to have a woman, who can make you laugh.

3. It’s important to have a woman, who you can trust and who doesn’t lie to you.

4. It’s important to have a woman, who is good in bed and who likes to be with you.

5. It’s very, very important that these four women do not know each other.

152 Land Shark  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:28:23pm

My problem with O'Reilly is that he's such a bloated, pompous douche bag. I didn't watch it 'cause if I had seen these two pompous egotistical a-holes my dinner would have come up big time. Besides, there was some NFL football to watch, baby!

153 Winmag  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:28:53pm

BO and BO;Both using each other for their own ends.

154 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:28:56pm

re: #120 protestshooter

Chainsaws at the Berkeley Oak Grove! If you haven't made it down there yet, I'm sure it's going to be going on for quite a while. They're taking their time and doing it safely.

[Link: www.protestshooter.com...]

(I'm off to lunch now)

Those trees are going to have to go to a hazardous landfill now. They're covered in hippie cooties.

155 beens21  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:29:09pm

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...] and O'Reilly should ask about Ayers' wife also.

156 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:29:21pm

re: #147 Sparkizzy

Ah fuck, I should have read that


Yeah, the 'convert' is donating to BHO...

157 redbeard20  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:29:37pm

I thought it was a good interview. A good amount of interrogative pressure.

158 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:29:55pm

re: #115 MandyManners

I think he's added silver to his hair again.

He definitely lost weight - his suit looked loose - and i loathe the way he tries to touch O'Reilly, but then, thats what community organisers do to show they ahve empathy ...

159 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:29:58pm

re: #148 Cato

A battalion is part of a regiment.

160 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:30:10pm

If running for president makes you qualified to be president, Ralph Nader is the most qualified candidate.

161 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:30:13pm

re: #146 ciaospirit

Obama said the surge worked beyond anyone's wildest dreams thus including everyone in his position of doubt. And as Sarah Palin pointed out today, Obama was wrong about the surge and wrong about "everyone" being surprised that it worked so well. Only he and the Democrats were surprised.

You know, the O'Reilly [first part] interview was worth it for that quote - you have no idea how many of the kook fringe's heads exploded when he conceded that. No more Bush lied, yada yada

162 701c  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:30:17pm

re: #131 Silhouette

If indeed honest non-gender-related criticisms of Palin are being met with accusations of sexism, then I'd have to agree with the writer that that would be wrong.

However, I've yet to see any of that. In a world as big as ours, I've no doubt that somewhere, someone on some blog posting made such a silly argument, but overall, I have NOT seen Palin being given that protected status.

I have seen genuine sexist attacks about Palin (why isn't she home with the kids, who will give Trig the care he needs, will she have time to serve, she just got where she is because she's a woman) where the attackers may not think they are being sexist, and therefore feel unjustly accused when they are called on it.

I was saying there is never dissent over at CommonDreams One dissenting comment can get you kicked off the blog.

163 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:30:28pm

re: #31 Dartmouth

Would've liked to see Bill drill down on Barry O's "present" votes in the Senate. The guy has no backbone when it comes to sticking to your guns.

He tanked against Michael Moore, too. "Looking out for you", my ass.

164 reggie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:30:30pm

re: #64 HelloDare

Obama counts running his campaign as administrative experience. Talk about a circular argument.

I think I am President, therefore I am President.

165 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:30:33pm

re: #114 701c

I think Obama did a good job of not looking like a liberal.

Did you watch the same thing I did?re: #132 701c

I wish Obama was a conservative.

I think you need a sarc "/" tag there.

166 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:31:29pm
167 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:31:36pm

re: #164 reggie

I think I am President, therefore I am President.

Cartesian Politics!

168 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:31:44pm

re: #132 701c

I wish Obama was a conservative.

Why?

169 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:31:52pm

I seem to remember the Obama camp threatening that if McCain announced his VP nominee during the DNC, it would be "political malpractice". In other words, it's not proper to rain on someone else's convention. Yet Obama had no problem going on O'reilly on McCain's big night. Obama's a chronic liar.

170 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:32:06pm

re: #164 reggie

I think I am President, therefore I am President.


That's the SECRET he's learned from his other spiritual mentor, Oprah.

That's what's behind the faux pres seal, the "O" force one, the columns, the speech in Germany.

You can do it Duffy Moon!

171 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:33:07pm

re: #148 Cato

I wish O'Reily had asked him an easy question like: "Mr. Obama, which is bigger, a regiment or a battalion?"

BHO doesn't know. I don't know. But McCain would know.

Start with the simple questions. What state are you in? How many states are there anyway? Did more than one bomb land on Pearl Harbor? Who has veto power in the UNSC?

172 LegendXXX  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:33:21pm

re: #113 Iron Fist

I said it would hurt...

173 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:33:32pm

Happy TGIF, Lizards!

174 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:02pm

re: #166 taxfreekiller

uh,
ya
uh,
ya

commercial break

uh,
ya
uh,
ya

commercial break

Love ya
ta ta

commercial break

Now now, that's unfair; he did manage to get 2 or 3 more words in
/

175 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:10pm

Listen...you can hear Barry's poll numbers shrinking.

176 Cato  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:10pm

re: #159 Ojoe


You may be more capable of being commander-in-chief than BHO is then.

177 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:21pm

re: #169 ciaospirit

I seem to remember the Obama camp threatening that if McCain announced his VP nominee during the DNC, it would be "political malpractice". In other words, it's not proper to rain on someone else's convention. Yet Obama had no problem going on O'reilly on McCain's big night. Obama's a chronic liar.

From what I understand they actually insisted on it being that night. O'Reilly went along with it because he wanted the interview and would not have gotten it otherwise.

178 Straitcircle  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:22pm

conventions are over -- let the debates begin!

179 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:28pm

re: #103 Asmodeus

About the O's aging process. I wouldn't worry about him.
Didn't some lizards point out (w/ photos) that Obama went from totally black hair to salt-and-pepper in the space of one short vacation in Hawaii? It would seem that BHO stopped using hair coloring when he decided "gravitas" was more important for his image than youthfulness.
(A smart move, IMO.)

180 zombie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:33pm

re: #120 protestshooter

Chainsaws at the Berkeley Oak Grove! If you haven't made it down there yet, I'm sure it's going to be going on for quite a while. They're taking their time and doing it safely.

[Link: www.protestshooter.com...]

(I'm off to lunch now)

Great report, and so fast! The video of the tree-chopping was worth the price of admission.

181 701c  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:58pm

re: #168 MandyManners

Why?

Maybe I should think on that a little more.

182 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:34:58pm

re: #174 Sparkizzy

Barry Uh Obama.

183 yochanan  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:35:31pm

re: #105 Spider Mensch

hows he going to prepare when he plans to cut the military to carter levels or worse? can obama make thanksgiving dinner with 2 saltines and 3 olives? well he is the messiah, 5 loaves and 3 fishes and obama can feed the multitudes I forgot..

/eye roll

THE OBAMANATION'S idea for the use of the military is for parades and such military brasshat bands. guns never. but lots of spoiled butter

184 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:35:45pm

re: #120 protestshooter

Chainsaws at the Berkeley Oak Grove! If you haven't made it down there yet, I'm sure it's going to be going on for quite a while. They're taking their time and doing it safely.

[Link: www.protestshooter.com...]

(I'm off to lunch now)

The guy burning sage ... isn't that an aw-baloney shell?

185 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:36:06pm

A Battalion is 300 - 1000.
Military unit sizes

186 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:36:26pm

re: #170 Ben Hur

That's the SECRET he's learned from his other spiritual mentor, Oprah.

That's what's behind the faux pres seal, the "O" force one, the columns, the speech in Germany.

You can do it Duffy Moon!

Speak of the other "O" - I am hearing in small circles that a lot of the [white] women who were fans of Oprah are not comprehending her decision to ban Ms. Palin. Sort of contradicts what Oprah was supposed to stand for - you know, the free exchange of ideas...but like other sectors of the media, when you are in the tank, you are in the tank.

187 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:36:28pm

re: #154 Silhouette

Those trees are going to have to go to a hazardous landfill now. They're covered in hippie cooties.

That dipwad "meditating" at the "shrine"? Too funny.

Wouldn't mind having some of that firewood.

188 mbabbitt  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:36:34pm

What strikes me about Obama is that he cannot/will not admit that his surge vote was wrong -- because no one (except people like John McCain) could anticipate such success. This guy cannot be wrong. Under his logic, by Bush relying on the accepted intelligence about Saddam and WMD, Bush was not wrong to kick Saddam out. Both Obama and O'reilly lose with that argument. Both sanctimonious in their spin.

189 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:36:42pm

re: #161 wright1

You know, the O'Reilly [first part] interview was worth it for that quote - you have no idea how many of the kook fringe's heads exploded when he conceded that. No more Bush lied, yada yada

And Palin let it be know that people with good judgment knew the surge would work. She made it clear that Obama was profoundly wrong on a vital national security issue.

190 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:36:49pm

re: #184 pre-Boomer Marine brat

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com...]

MWAH!

191 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:36:52pm

re: #169 ciaospirit

You don't understand. Obama is a Democrat. As a matter of fact, he is as a god among Democrats. Such people don't believe that common restrictions apply to them. That's one reason why BHO is so damn scary. He really believes his own hype.

192 JeremiahRight  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:36:53pm

at 3:37 Bill says:
"alright let's go to Iraq. I think history will show it's the wrong battlefield, okay? And I think that you were perspicacious in your original assessment of the battlefield."
Barry: "I appreciate that"
Bill: "I think you were desperately wrong on the surge, and I think you should admit it to the nation that now, we have defeated the terrorists in Iraq, and they, the al Qaeda came there after we invaded as you know blah blah blah"

I thought there was no bloviating on the Factor. Oh brother

193 Cato  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:37:02pm

re: #171 HelloDare


I think Rudy alread did the UNSC thing. "It took him 3 days to get the Georgia position right. Next time, just call John McCain."

194 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:37:04pm

re: #176 Cato

OK but I design buildings McCain is the obvious choice.

195 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:37:13pm

re: #186 wright1

Speak of the other "O" - I am hearing in small circles that a lot of the [white] women who were fans of Oprah are not comprehending her decision to ban Ms. Palin. Sort of contradicts what Oprah was supposed to stand for - you know, the free exchange of ideas...but like other sectors of the media, when you are in the tank, you are in the tank.

She apparently understands her audience even less than world politics.

196 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:37:51pm

Obama and Olmert, two complete O-holes, with sO much in common!
*Olmert Ok's Israeli Transfer Of Weapons To The Phakestinians*

197 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:37:55pm

re: #148 Cato

Thing is - if you see the armed Forces as one huge source of eeevil, as moonbats do, then it doesn't matter what size batallions and regiments are, they all need to be reduced, imemdiately, fighting a war or not ...

Thats what the neostalinists ahve been doing ehre in the UK - and it looks to me as if B0 has taken a whole wodge of leaves out of their book ...

198 cblesz  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:37:57pm

re: #193 Cato

I think Rudy alread did the UNSC thing. "It took him 3 days to get the Georgia position right. Next time, just call John McCain."

That was the best line of the entire convention!

199 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:38:26pm

re: #188 mbabbitt

What strikes me about Obama is that he cannot/will not admit that his surge vote was wrong -- because no one (except people like John McCain) could anticipate such success. This guy cannot be wrong. Under his logic, by Bush relying on the accepted intelligence about Saddam and WMD, Bush was not wrong to kick Saddam out. Both Obama and O'reilly lose with that argument. Both sanctimonious in their spin.


"Bush can't admit mistakes" was a Dem mantra picked up and hammered home by the MSM for months.

He was even asked to admit it by reporters.

Funny how that works.

200 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:38:26pm

re: #173 goddessoftheclassroom

Happy TGIF, Lizards!

uh oh

201 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:38:39pm

re: #136 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The Nittally Lions are playing tomorrow. Or so Obama says.

OMG. Did he say that? :O

202 jpkoch  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:38:44pm

Obama's people pulled a fast one. O'Rielly has been hounding Obama for months to appear on his show. And Obama complied; he demanded the interview take place during the evening when John McCain gave his acceptance speech. O'Rielly should have seen it coming.

203 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:39:06pm

re: #195 Ben Hur

She apparently understands her audience even less than world politics.

What we need is a Fairness Doctrine. ///

204 Dianna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:39:15pm

Does anyone else get the Political Diary? This is what John Fund had to say about Obama on O'Reilly:

Barack Obama walked into the lion's den of the O'Reilly Factor on Fox News last night in an attempt to upstage John McCain just before his GOP rival delivered his acceptance speech.
Mr. Obama effectively pitched himself to the largely conservative O'Reilly audience as a man who would be a forceful commander in chief. He referred to the attacks by Al Qaeda in Iraq as a "war of terror" and acknowledged the recent success of the Bush-McCain-Petraeus strategy. "I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated," Mr. Obama said. "It's succeeded beyond our wildest dreams."
On Iran, Mr. Obama talked tough and clearly signaled that he considers the Islamic regime a danger to U.S. interests. "It is unacceptable for Iran to possess a nuclear weapon. It would be a game changer."
Mr. Obama realizes that such rhetoric may alienate his liberal base, but with the election less than two months away and no detectable threat from Ralph Nader's candidacy, he no doubt believes he has plenty of running room to reassure voters who are concerned about national security.

He titled it, The One Triangulates

Make of it what you will.

205 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:39:18pm

re: #193 Cato

I think Rudy alread did the UNSC thing. "It took him 3 days to get the Georgia position right. Next time, just call John McCain."

God I love that line - it is almost as good as Community Organizer - whaaaat?

206 cliffster  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:39:34pm

re: #198 cblesz

That was the best line of the entire convention!

Up there, but I think this was the best line... "Let's get one thing clear - only one man in this race has actually fought for you."

207 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:39:48pm

Obama is an O hole.

208 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:39:49pm

re: #146 ciaospirit

Obama said the surge worked beyond anyone's wildest dreams thus including everyone in his position of doubt. And as Sarah Palin pointed out today, Obama was wrong about the surge and wrong about "everyone" being surprised that it worked so well. Only he and the Democrats were surprised.

Yep. Great example of logical hoop jumping.

Because he (Obama) said it wouldn't work and McCain said it would work, McCain is still not right because it worked better than McCain thought/hoped. (obamalogic)

And what's more, Obama is not wrong in saying the surge wouldn't work because he didn't say that (he contends), only a surge that relied too heavily on the US and didn't use the Iraqis more. (Except, of course, the exact plan he said wouldn't work did. But somehow, he was not wrong.)

209 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:39:50pm

re: #190 goddessoftheclassroom

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com.. .]

MWAH!

OUCH!
That looks PAINFUL!

MWAH!

210 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:40:14pm

re: #166 taxfreekiller

uh,
ya
uh,
ya

commercial break

uh,
ya
uh,
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commercial break

Love ya
ta ta

commercial break

The most precise summary yet!

211 freedomnut  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:40:44pm

I stopped watching Bill O when he stopped calling spin-meisters on their dodging the questions. He used to interrupt with a "hey, now stop right there, this is a no spin zone, so we're going to give you another chance to answer the question without putting spin on it." Now he just says OK and moves on to the next question. I can get that on any network.

Was a sad breakup, though.

212 Kostya Lotz  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:41:15pm

Obama did great in the first 20 seconds, after that, ehhh...not so good.
The moment he started parsing Shiite-Sunni, and so forth, you could tell he was only rewinding his talking points and had not given any close scrutiny to the Iran issues and any other national security issues for that matter.

This clown will be worse than Clinton for his legalese, legerdemain and prestidigitation.

Shoes for Industry, Shoes for the Dead.

213 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:41:17pm

RE the Berkley vid:
I believe that if someone says "fuck" to a cop, the cop has a right to smack him/her

214 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:41:55pm

re: #204 Dianna


All True.

Equally disturbing was O'Reilly saying "I looked into his eyes - he is no wimp" - ugh...just kiss him already Bill

215 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:42:07pm

re: #141 midwestgak

Now Karl Rove has to get the machine running for his October surprise.

I forgot about that October surprise. He'll be able to come up with something juicy - so much about OB is lurking under some spider hole somewhere. Gotta be.

Well, I just got sent the racist, sexist MoveOn email about Sarah that I had been warned about (here, in fact) and I'm kinda wondering whether there's maybe a little O-bomb-a that Rove could drop right now. Just to shake things up, you know. The Almighty might have mercy on BO and his disciples, but I hope we have none.

216 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:42:18pm

We all blow up the Yellow Submarine!

[Link: www.angryclam.com...]

217 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:42:19pm

OT:

Politics aside....great picture.

HAPPY RAMADAN EVERYONE. Another Ramadan, another PROOF that the Muslims could care less about Jerusalem, and the Temple Mount but for political reasons. NOTICE THEY PRAY AWAY FROM JERUSALEM & THE MOSQUE (note: Whenever a Jew prays, anywhere in the world, he/she prays TOWARD the Temple Mount & Jerusalem! The importance of J'lem and the Temple Mount is not equal!)

218 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:42:29pm

re: #192 JeremiahRight

"And I think that you were perspicacious in your original assessment of the battlefield."

Obama assessing "battlefield conditions" is like getting knife-fighting tips from Dennis Kucinich.

219 Cato  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:42:39pm

re: #198 cblesz

I disagree. The best line of the convention was: "I put it on eBay."

That line ingratiated her to so many people. She didn't hire a consultant. She didn't give it to an airplain broker. She didn't send out an rfp.

She sold it on eBay, like any mother wanting to sell something she couldn't sell in a yard sale.

Palin is killing the leftists.

220 mbabbitt  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:42:59pm

Just an elaboration: The war went badly -- which Bush finally had to admit but then he did change his action by ordering the Surge. But under Obama's logic, Bush was right at the start. And considering where we are at today -- no Saddam, the defeat of Al Qaeda, the push back of Iran's actions, and the forming of a nascent democracy -- Bush was right all around. Thank goodness for President Bush, Gen. Petraeus, John McCain, and our marvelous men and women in the service of our country.

221 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:43:10pm

re: #214 wright1

All True.

Equally disturbing was O'Reilly saying "I looked into his eyes - he is no wimp" - ugh...just kiss him already Bill

Yeah, well, remember when Bush saw something in Putin's eyes?

222 cliffster  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:43:28pm

re: #204 Dianna

People who are in that group he's talking about actually pay attention to what's going on in the world, election year or no. They will know that it's just words coming out of BO's blowhole, and they will also know how wildly different what he's saying now is from what he was saying a year ago.

223 protestshooter  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:43:34pm

re: #180 zombie

Great report, and so fast! The video of the tree-chopping was worth the price of admission.

Thanks! Hopefully you can swing by sometime for the aftermath pictures - as far as I can tell they're going to be stripping branches all day, so there's still the removal and the real clear-cutting.

224 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:43:43pm

re: #190 goddessoftheclassroom

Just wanna tellya how much I enjoy your piccies!
Am always looking forward to them - gotta have a laugh, innit, like!

Thanks!

225 cblesz  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:43:44pm

How is markos and his happy gang handling the fact that the ONE went on O'Reilly? I wonder if MoveOn is happy too?

226 Dianna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:43:50pm

re: #214 wright1

I'm dancing numbers, so I haven't watched the video. I just saw the Diary, and thought it applied.

Though Obama's too self-absorbed to be a wimp, it seems.

227 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:43:51pm

Obama would have gone on O'Reilly's show sooner if Bill had agreed to have a teleprompter strapped to his head.

228 Miss Molly  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:43:55pm

It would be helpful to learn all the classes that Obama taught at the law school in Chicago because it really gives a clear insight as to what is important to him and it is not all Americans. He seems to have a clear agenda which he is keeping hidden from the American people.

229 protestshooter  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:44:07pm

re: #184 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The guy burning sage ... isn't that an aw-baloney shell?

Ouch!

230 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:44:11pm

re: #182 HelloDare

Barry Uh Obama.

Barry "Uh-Oh" bama.

231 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:44:33pm

re: #136 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The Nittally Lions are playing tomorrow. Or so Obama says.

"Nittally" sounds like a subsidiary of Eataly that sells yarn.

By the way, make with details on your "partying with Brazilian hotties" already. Not that I'm obsessed with Brazilian hotties or anything.

232 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:44:40pm

re: #221 ciaospirit

Yeah, well, remember when Bush saw something in Putin's eyes?


It's called acting.

233 chukardog  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:44:52pm

why didnt Bill ask Obambi why he didnt have a plan for victory, instead of only a plan for retreat? Those werent tough questions. Orielly was for the Iraq invasion and cant see the forest through the trees. Where exactly should we fight Islamic terrorists Bill? State sponsors of terrorism cant be ignored. Hoping the problem will go away isnt a foreign policy, its liberal purple unicorn fantasy groupthink.

234 protestshooter  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:44:54pm

re: #213 Sparkizzy

RE the Berkley vid:
I believe that if someone says "fuck" to a cop, the cop has a right to smack him/her

Oh, in Berkeley it's pretty normal actually.

235 Sol Roth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:44:55pm

Quote for the day:

"Whatever you give a woman, she's going to multiply. If you give her sperm, she'll give you a baby. If you give her a house, she'll give you a home. If you give her groceries, she'll give you a meal. If you give her a smile, she'll give you her heart. She multiplies and enlarges what is given to her.

So - if you give her any crap, you will receive a ton of shit."


Love and appreciate all the women in your life..

236 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:45:00pm
237 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:45:13pm

Wikipedia says:

rather, having been "left-wing" his entire life,

True?

238 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:45:18pm

re: #219 Cato

I disagree. The best line of the convention was: "I put it on eBay."

That line ingratiated her to so many people. She didn't hire a consultant. She didn't give it to an airplain broker. She didn't send out an rfp.

She sold it on eBay, like any mother wanting to sell something she couldn't sell in a yard sale.

Palin is killing the leftists.

She did put it on Ebay but I do not think it sold there.

239 protestshooter  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:45:47pm

re: #238 wright1

She did put it on Ebay but I do not think it sold there.

I believe it did but had to be relisted once or twice.

240 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:45:50pm

re: #200 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Oh - and I do love your replies to the goddess!

241 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:46:05pm

re: #229 protestshooter

Ouch!

And BTW, good photos, great work. Thanks.

242 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:46:06pm

re: #132 701c

I wish Obama was a conservative.

If Obama was a conservative you never would have heard of him & he would not now be running for president. If you think the media hates a conservative woman, just consider how they feel about conservative African-Americans.

243 runrabbitrun  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:46:12pm

re: #61 kynna

Exactly. They keep saying it was the 'wrong battlefield' but they have never explained why. Because that would pin them down and they couldn't spin. The whys are so darn vague they can change with the wind. That may make a good politician or talk show host but it sure doesn't make a good president.

Exactly. The pundits are too dumb to know the real reasons we chose Iraq as the central front, and one of them was to have a major country nestled in the heart of the Middle East reject and kick out al-Queda, fighting with recruits of their own country.

Strength and success create prestige plus recruits in the ME. It was a GIGANTIC blow to the brand.

244 mj  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:46:22pm

As Fox News prepares to interview Barack Obama tomorrow night, during prime time, TV journalist Michael Wolff details a meeting between Barack Obama, Fox News president Roger Ailes, and News Corporation president Rupert Murdoch in which the Fox execs promised to lay off the Democratic presidential candidate.

According to Wolff's telling, this was more than a mere tete-à-tete, this was a full-on diplomatic meeting (initiated at Murdoch's request), conducted only after preparation and with preconditions from the Obama campaign.

The apparent purpose? To smooth things over in the event that Obama defeats John McCain:
[Link: newsbusters.org...]

245 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:46:49pm

re: #237 Sparkizzy

Wikipedia says:


True?

gah. about zombie

246 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:47:00pm

re: #235 Sol Roth

You're not going to make many friends here with that type of crap, boyo.

247 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:47:14pm
248 kevinmumaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:47:19pm

OT: You will not believe this...or maybe you will

DU think Palin is an Aryan Supremacist. Seriously. Because she is from Idaho.

The comments are far and away the most insane I have ever seen, and that is saying something. My favorite so far:

Thanks for the correction. I was going on her own story about Trig's name - turns out she lied.

Palin herself said that Trig was a Norse name, but apparently the Norse version is spelled Trygg, so she lied about that.

And they are of course puzzled as to why Palin has such a high approval rating.

249 Lynn B.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:47:25pm

Just waiting for Barry to snap. You know it's coming ...

Oh damn, where did you come from? I’m a man! I'm entitled! There's a white woman stealing my show!'

250 kuffar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:47:31pm

Palin is so good that she is going to put Obama on E-Bay.

251 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:47:41pm

re: #240 yma o hyd

Oh - and I do love your replies to the goddess!

Thanks. It's a lot of fun.

252 hazzyday  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:47:42pm

re: #156 scottishbuzzsaw

Yeah, the 'convert' is donating to BHO...

Interesting is that the left can listen to the right and hear no content. Cognitive dissonance on a mass scale. The author of that kos piece was mostly a bs moby

253 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:47:56pm

re: #244 mj

As Fox News prepares to interview Barack Obama tomorrow night, during prime time, TV journalist Michael Wolff details a meeting between Barack Obama, Fox News president Roger Ailes, and News Corporation president Rupert Murdoch in which the Fox execs promised to lay off the Democratic presidential candidate.

According to Wolff's telling, this was more than a mere tete-à-tete, this was a full-on diplomatic meeting (initiated at Murdoch's request), conducted only after preparation and with preconditions from the Obama campaign.

The apparent purpose? To smooth things over in the event that Obama defeats John McCain:
[Link: newsbusters.org...]

SAY IT AIN'T SO

254 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:48:07pm

Has anyone bought t-shirts from cafepress?
They have a "Country First McCain/Palin" shirt I'm thinking about getting.
McCain's site is out of even McCain/Palin shirts.

255 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:48:10pm

re: #250 kuffar

Palin is so good that she is going to put Obama on E-Bay.

He's not gonna sell there either.

256 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:48:40pm

re: #250 kuffar

Palin is so good that she is going to put Obama on E-Bay.

Under "fertilizer"?

257 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:49:13pm

re: #255 kansas

He's not gonna sell there either.

Don't be surprised - people have paid for Britney Spears' turd

258 cliffster  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:49:16pm

re: #250 kuffar

Palin is so good that she is going to put Obama on E-Bay.

Listed under, Motivational Speakers?

259 unclassifiable  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:49:16pm

I tried to watch the first 2 minutes of this at work.

I felt my hand involuntarily reaching for the off button several times (and I normally don't turn equipment off -- I shut it down gently) and finally my BS meter pegged and blew up.

I am going to have to fortify myself back home to wade through this. Right now if the earth had swallowed these two up whole that would have been the only value I could derive from it.

260 kuffar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:49:32pm

re: #256 Ward Cleaver

No, as a Rug. She has bear skin over her couch at her home in Alaska.

261 mj  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:49:47pm

re: #219 Cato

I disagree. The best line of the convention was: "I put it on eBay."

That line ingratiated her to so many people. She didn't hire a consultant. She didn't give it to an airplain broker. She didn't send out an rfp.

She sold it on eBay, like any mother wanting to sell something she couldn't sell in a yard sale.

Palin is killing the leftists.


She listed the plane on eBay but it didn't sell there. The Left is already calling her liar about that.


[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]

Palin claim on eBay plane sale doesn't fly
By Jason George and Andrew Zajac | Chicago Tribune correspondents
September 5, 2008


JUNEAU, Alaska — When Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin sought to illustrate her frugality and flair to delegates at the GOP convention Wednesday, she described how she disposed of a corporate jet acquired by her unpopular predecessor.

"That luxury jet was over the top," Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee, said to loud cheers. "I put it on eBay."

Palin's statement implied the plane was sold through the online auction site revered for empowering millions of small entrepreneurs, and Palin's spokeswoman insisted Thursday that the transaction occurred. But the plane failed to sell on eBay.

Instead, the 23-year-old 10-seat Westwind II was sold in August 2007 for $2.1 million to a Valdez, Alaska, entrepreneur; that's about $300,000 less than a broker's asking price, according to news accounts.

262 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:50:07pm

re: #201 wolfie
Yep, Rush looped it. It was so funny.

263 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:50:44pm

I haven't played WOW in 3 days. Feels weird.

264 looking closely  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:50:46pm

I actually watched this last night.

My biggest problem with it is that O'Reilly simply wasn't knowledgeable enough to ask the REAL biting questions, like what political progress in Iraq Obama thinks we should have seen by now, or how exactly we should be cooperating with Europe that we haven't done already (particularly given the failure of "Oil for food", and the multilateral talks that have been going on with Iran for YEARS).

It wasn't a pure fluff interview, but it certainly wasn't a particularly biting one. In essence, one windbag interviewing another.

Where was the followup question on Obama's crack that he "always said the surge was a success". That's news to me. . . I'd have liked to know when he'd EVER said that before.

266 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:51:12pm

re: #231 Occasional Reader

Brazilian hotties? What Brazilian Hotties? This Brazilian hotty?

267 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:51:17pm

re: #218 Occasional Reader

What O'Reilly is really saying is that he thinks Hussein (Saddam, not Obama :-) should still be in power. That is the logical end of following Obama's logic that we shouldn't have gone into Iraq. I wonder exactly how they figure an emboldened Saddam Hussein, freed from sanctions to do as he pleased and supplied by the French and Russians, would contribute to the security of the United States. That is a question that everyone who believes that we should have left Saddam alone should have to answer.

268 hazzyday  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:51:25pm

re: #220 mbabbitt

Just an elaboration: The war went badly -- which Bush finally had to admit but then he did change his action by ordering the Surge. But under Obama's logic, Bush was right at the start. And considering where we are at today -- no Saddam, the defeat of Al Qaeda, the push back of Iran's actions, and the forming of a nascent democracy -- Bush was right all around. Thank goodness for President Bush, Gen. Petraeus, John McCain, and our marvelous men and women in the service of our country.

I don't think it was possible for the war to go well at the start. We came in there without the cultural knowledge to adapt to the situation. It's a great plus that the military leaders perceived themselves to be adaptable to the combat terrain and turned a lot of their leaders into anthropolgists. The pre surge time, is just surge prep time. It had to be done that way.

269 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:51:35pm

re: #257 wright1

Don't be surprised - people have paid for Britney Spears' turd

Are you saying Obama is Britney Spears' turd? ; )

270 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:51:44pm

re: #135 wright1

De nada. I think it's utterly loathsome. I guess we need to notify all security teams that anyone dressed in bright pink is suspect, especially if they've got a tiara and feather boa from Claire's. (Accessory shop popular with pre-teens.)

271 Sol Roth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:52:09pm

re: #246 Ben Hur

You're not going to make many friends here with that type of crap, boyo.

:)

272 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:52:35pm

re: #261 mj

She didn't say she SOLD it on ebay, she said she put it on ebay.

274 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:52:41pm

re: #266 experiencedtraveller

Brazilian hotties? What Brazilian Hotties? This Brazilian hotty?

That temporarily put my heart in to v-tach...
CLEAR!

275 SecondComing  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:52:46pm

re: #163 Ward Cleaver

He tanked against Michael Moore, too. "Looking out for you", my ass.

yeah, I remember that. I brought that up when a friend said OMG OBAMA IS GOING TO BE ON O'REILLY! I knew not to bother.

276 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:53:29pm

re: #258 cliffster

Listed under, Motivational Speakers?

Maybe once he's divorced and living in a van, down by the river.

277 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:53:36pm

re: #261 mj

How lame. She said "I put it on eBay," which is perfectly true. How it was ultimately sold is irrelevant. They are really grasping at straws.

278 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:53:46pm

re: #62 zombie

Did he ask this question:

"Senator Obama, is it true that you had your first political "coming out party" in the home of William Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, who sponsored your first political run for office, and who referred to you as "our man"? Wasn't Ayers once described as your "political mentor"? Were you unaware of their political affiliations at the time? And do you categorically and publicly now repudiate Ayers and Dorhn and everything they stand for?"

If not, then I don't want to hear about it.

That part of the interview "Ayers" next week.

279 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:54:05pm
280 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:54:15pm
281 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:54:28pm

re: #276 Kosh's Shadow

Maybe once he's divorced and living in a van, down by the river.

I wish I could give you multiple updings for that!

282 looking closely  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:54:32pm

re: #132 701c

I wish Obama was a conservative.

I wish I $50,000,000 million in the bank and X-ray vision.

Given his thin resume, If Obama were a conservative he'd

a. Never have been elected to the State IL gov't in his district
b. Never have been elected to the Senate.
c. Never had the fawning (and unprecedented) media support he's received to date, and
d. Never gotten the Republican nomination for POTUS.

In short, a hypothetical conservative "Obama" would be a totally different animal than the current one.

283 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:55:20pm

re: #277 doppelganglander

How lame. She said "I put it on eBay," which is perfectly true. How it was ultimately sold is irrelevant. They are really grasping at straws.

Democrat rule: When in hole, keeping digging. You'll eventually see daylight.

284 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:55:26pm

re: #269 kansas

Are you saying Obama is Britney Spears' turd? ; )

No, he's a demon turd. Human crap doesn't stink as bad as he does.

285 SecondComing  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:56:10pm

re: #160 wrenchwench

If running for president makes you qualified to be president, Ralph Nader is the most qualified candidate.

Palin needs to use that in a debate!

286 J.S.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:56:19pm

Several factors become painfully obvious in this interview -- and it has to do with Obama's judgement and character. I think the most damning item is that Obama (even when confronted with direct evidence) cannot admit to having made an error. Obama contorts himself into making it sound as if He is the Infallible One -- Never, Ever, Wrong... Always right. This (i believe) is an extremely dangerous attitude. It means that this person (this potentially future President of the United States) is incapable of learning. hence, he will be in the position of repeating mistakes, over and over and over again...while consistently asserting that he's "right." while everyone (including a three year old) realizes, "he's wrong." He also has an exceptionally weak understanding of the current Islamist threat. It's laughable. Somehow he has been led to believe (as if this were another Infallible Doctrine) that Sunni and Shiite would never, ever get together to do an enemy harm...O my G-d, my, my, my, how wrong Obama is...Again, I believe this clearly indicates that Obama hasn't a clue about how things actually operate in the Middle East...not a frigging clue...There would need to be an extremely steep learning curve here (and given his attitude of "I'm always right") -- Obama is not going to master the necessary lessons...(Obama spells disaster for the United States, if ever this bozo gains office.) Ditto for Obama's repeated and failed yak about the "Europeans" and using "diplomacy." That has been tried by the Europeans with Iran for years now and the result has been One Fat failure after another... And yet, The One doesn't recognize the failures made by the Europeans...Nor is The One capable of even acknowledging failure when he encounters it. He just repeats the mantra -- the same chant -- "talk with them" -- as if this will magically cure all ailments...The Iranians must be laughing and rubbing their hands with glee...

287 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:56:24pm

re: #283 kansas

Democrat rule: When in hole, keeping digging. You'll eventually see daylight.

Please tell me that means they'll end up in China?

288 Piglet-U93  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:56:38pm

re: #147 Sparkizzy

Ah fuck, I should have read that

We all make mistakes. To learn from them shows good character. Yes, I read it too. No problem, move on :)

289 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:57:00pm

re: #283 kansas

Democrat rule: When in hole, keeping digging. You'll eventually see daylight.

Where China is. Which is kind of the point.

290 runrabbitrun  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:57:05pm

re: #249 Lynn B.

Just waiting for Barry to snap. You know it's coming ...

You know that Barry will let loose with some hotheaded nasty comments, and Biden-esque bloopers as he melts down, now that he's been shaken by Palin the way Bobby Fischer used to rattle his own opponents.

It won't be so easy to goad Palin into blowing her top. A superbusy, devoted mom like Sarah probably has had more years of on-the-job experience with kids testing her temper to the limit when she is exhausted than Obama has had.

291 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:57:48pm

re: #288 Piglet-U93

Thanks.

292 looking closely  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:58:18pm

re: #267 Iron Fist

What O'Reilly is really saying is that he thinks Hussein (Saddam, not Obama :-) should still be in power. That is the logical end of following Obama's logic that we shouldn't have gone into Iraq. I wonder exactly how they figure an emboldened Saddam Hussein, freed from sanctions to do as he pleased and supplied by the French and Russians, would contribute to the security of the United States. That is a question that everyone who believes that we should have left Saddam alone should have to answer.


Of course, and let's not forget that long before Iran started with its own covert nuclear program, Saddam Hussein had his own personal one too.

Short of the corrupt and crumbling sanctions program, and the ongoing American blockade (with active shooting over the no-fly zone), how exactly would the world persuade Hussein NOT to try to develop nukes a second time?

Consult the Europeans?

293 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:58:40pm

re: #248 kevinmumaw

Palin Lied, Trig Cried!

So because she "changed" the spelling of a word that probably has 50 "correct" spellings, she lied? How about going after McCain and Cindy for lying about their ages to each other?

294 DisturbedEma  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:58:52pm

re: #170 Ben Hur

That's the SECRET he's learned from his other spiritual mentor, Oprah.

That's what's behind the faux pres seal, the "O" force one, the columns, the speech in Germany.

You can do it Duffy Moon!

Duffy Moonshine is in the house. . .

295 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:58:55pm

re: #248 kevinmumaw

There must be a competition among lefties to out-numbskull each other right?

The Palins spelled their son's name "Trig" instead of "Trygg" so that is somehow a lie and proves she's an white supremacist?

296 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:58:57pm

re: #287 scottishbuzzsaw

Please tell me that means they'll end up in China?

Pretty sure that's what's on the other side.

297 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:59:06pm

that was a stalemate.
o'reilly trying to look like he's not a suck up flunky. going as far as he can w/out offending the 'one'
and the one, so desperately wanting to appear strong and statesman like. lol
why did they even bother w/ this charade?

298 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:59:08pm

re: #264 looking closely

I think it worked to McCain's advantage ... made Obama not look like a messiah ... figuratively knocked him off mount olympus, not b/c of Oreilly, but because there wasn't anything special about it. And his minions think he is specially. The center doesn't get the Obama phenomenon, but when Palin is on, something special is on...

299 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 12:59:53pm

re: #238 wright1

She indeed put it on eBay, but didn't get the reserve price ($2.5 million IIRC). The plane was sold for $2.1 million through a broker.

300 Karagush  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:00:04pm

re: #108 yma o hyd

I downdinged you by mistake, and that should be a plus! I am full of cold medicine. Please forgive me (furious blush)

301 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:00:18pm

re: #287 scottishbuzzsaw

Please tell me that means they'll end up in China?

I hope so. Their cronyism fits in well there.

302 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:00:42pm

re: #279 WrathofG-d

ot:

Jews NOT WELCOME to live in Jerusalem!

This is ludicrous. Insane.

303 wintercat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:00:56pm

re: #283 kansas

The democrats are so frightened of Sarah Palin that they are beginning to implode. I welcome that.

She put it on eBay. End of story.

By the way, anyone know when the democratic media plans to turn their attention to Rezko/Obama mansion co-purchase?

/

304 nikis-knight  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:01:14pm

re: #4 pegcity

perverted the faith of islam

buzz, wrong

Try again

Good luck finding anyone who'll speak straight about that.

305 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:01:17pm

re: #295 Kenneth

My nephew's name is Mathieu, not Matthew, but his patron saint is ... St. matthew ... I'm sure it is spelled differently in aramaic ;)

Normal people despise this level of nitpickyness (If I may speak for normal people).

306 Cognito  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:01:34pm

re: #28 so.cal.swede

what i find found interesting and funny, is that the Democrats have since 2001 berated GW Bush for going to Iraq "to steal their oil"

In this interview, Obama basically said he wanted to go with O'Reilly to Iraq and get the oil.


SAY WHAT NOW?

I think they actually said they wanted to go get the Iraqis to spend their own surplus cash, instead of spending our (nonsurplus, and dwindling) cash.

I'm sorta with 'em on that point.

307 wright1  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:01:52pm

re: #299 lawhawk

She indeed put it on eBay, but didn't get the reserve price ($2.5 million IIRC). The plane was sold for $2.1 million through a broker.

Right. The most important thing is that there is no story here but when you don't have the facts - make them up - Rudolph Giuliani

308 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:02:09pm

re: #286 J.S.

I think the most damning item is that Obama (even when confronted with direct evidence) cannot admit to having made an error...

It is becoming more apparent every day: Obama suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder

The Iranians must be laughing and rubbing their hands with glee...

The mullahs always figured Bush was an aberration and all they had to do was wait for the Dems to take over the White House again. They must be pinching themselves at their good luck in Obama.

309 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:02:21pm
310 Uncle Joe  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:02:27pm

yeeesh...Two people I detest. I don't think I can watch it.

311 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:02:30pm

To counter that, here's a shameless plug for a friend of mine. He enjoys politics and writing, any thoughts? Please tell me if I'm out of line for posting this. [Link: josephpenn.blogspot.com...]

312 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:03:40pm

re: #292 looking closely

That's a good question, especially given the fact that the Russians and the French were already playing fast and loose with the "sanctions". What would be left of those sanctions today if the US had backed down? What would be going on in Saddam's WMD factories today if we haddn't gone to war?

I'm sure O'Reilly won't ask Obama these questions, but they were questions that needed to be answered before the decision was made to rashly turn away from a necessary war.

313 runrabbitrun  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:03:51pm

re: #287 scottishbuzzsaw

Please tell me that means they'll end up in China?

hi ((scottishbuzzsaw))! And a VERY good afternoon to you (which it is for us 'Pubbies :) )

If the Dems find themselves in China, they'll probably look for a way to get as many citizens of the most populous country in the world the right to vote - Dem, of course (hey, why try for just the felons?)

314 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:03:53pm

re: #272 newsjunkie_ky

She didn't say she SOLD it on ebay, she said she put it on ebay.

Well she is lying about that because she would have actually "listed" it on ebay. Actually physically putting a jet on e-bay is impossible.Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaahhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Sound of insanity, by the way. I'm starting to understand these people.

315 Alouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:04:06pm

re: #248 kevinmumaw

OT: You will not believe this...or maybe you will

DU think Palin is an Aryan Supremacist. Seriously. Because she is from Idaho.

The comments are far and away the most insane I have ever seen, and that is saying something. My favorite so far:

And they are of course puzzled as to why Palin has such a high approval rating.

She must be a race traitor, married to a half-breed Eskimo.

316 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:05:03pm

re: #302 wolfie

This comes during a week where Olmert is discussing "Disengagement II", handing over thousands of weapons to the PA, splitting Jerusalem, and refusing to allow Jews to repair a Jewish Holy Spot that is being used now as a Arab/Muslim trash dump.

Oh....but don't fear......90 thousand + Arab/Muslims were allowed into Israel today to pray on the Occupied Temple Mount (forbidden to Jews)

317 nikis-knight  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:05:19pm

re: #55 Occasional Reader

Which brings us to our bonus question:

Who is a better "community organizer", Barack Obama or David Petraeus?

I don't usually say this but... everyone go upding this post of OR's!

318 dhg4  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:05:43pm

re: #169 ciaospirit

I seem to remember the Obama camp threatening that if McCain announced his VP nominee during the DNC, it would be "political malpractice". In other words, it's not proper to rain on someone else's convention. Yet Obama had no problem going on O'reilly on McCain's big night. Obama's a chronic liar.

Exactly right. I wondered if anyone would point it out.

Also, IIRC, the Obama campaign promised a similarly positive response to McCain's nomination. I suspect that didn't happen either.

319 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:05:49pm

re: #315 Alouette

She must be a race traitor, married to a half-breed Eskimo.

Hey, don't Eskimos share their wives? I'm going to Alaska by gosh.

320 cblesz  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:06:07pm

Anyone listening to Hannity today? Curious as to his reaction of the convention and state of the race...

321 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:06:11pm

re: #306 Cognito

I think they actually said they wanted to go get the Iraqis to spend their own surplus cash, instead of spending our (nonsurplus, and dwindling) cash.

I'm sorta with 'em on that point.

Q: Tell me, who & what made that possible?

A: John McCain and the Surge.

But Obama is still against it. If Obama had his way, and had blocked the surge, we would be looking at an ongoing genocide, a civil war and a wider regional war in the Middle East right now.

322 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:06:20pm

re: #300 Karagush

Dinna worry, mun!
There are worse things in life than suffering an accidental down-ding.

Hope your cold gets better - its not a nice thing to be afflicted with, especially as everybody has patent cures and thinks one just needs to pull oneself together and get a move on ...

(Steam inhalations of chamomile tea are pretty useful ...)

323 cblesz  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:06:45pm

re: #318 dhg4

Exactly right. I wondered if anyone would point it out.

Also, IIRC, the Obama campaign promised a similarly positive response to McCain's nomination. I suspect that didn't happen either.

That's right...they said they would do the same thing...did not as far as I know.

324 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:06:51pm

re: #309 WrathofG-d

tap, tap, tap....this thing on?

Some Good Old Russian Propaganda: Putin Single Handedly Defeats Tiger In The Wild.

Well, if they want to play that game, we could settle matters with Russia quite easily: Vladimir Putin vs. Chuck Norris. I give Putin 2 minutes before he's knocked out cold.

325 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:06:57pm

Ever since Clinton was impeached for lying, it is imperative that every conservative be shown to be a liar.

Even if all they have is pathetic stuff like spelling a name differently. Or putting/selling differences on ebay.

Speaking of misspellings, my mother named me after herself, but spelled it wrong. She'd been spelling her own name wrong her whole life, and just passed it along to me. We found her birth certificate and wasn't she surprised to learn her name actually was the tradional spelling.

326 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:07:39pm

re: #303 wintercat

The democrats are so frightened of Sarah Palin that they are beginning to implode. I welcome that.

She put it on eBay. End of story.

By the way, anyone know when the democratic media plans to turn their attention to Rezko/Obama mansion co-purchase?

/

Never!
Well - perhaps after he's lost the election and they need to find the biggest scapegoat - B0 himself ...

327 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:07:53pm

re: #251 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Thanks. It's a lot of fun.


Well, the bunny thought so at first...

328 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:08:10pm

re: #286 J.S.

Several factors become painfully obvious in this interview -- and it has to do with Obama's judgement and character. I think the most damning item is that Obama (even when confronted with direct evidence) cannot admit to having made an error. Obama contorts himself into making it sound as if He is the Infallible One -- Never, Ever, Wrong... Always right. This (i believe) is an extremely dangerous attitude. It means that this person (this potentially future President of the United States) is incapable of learning. hence, he will be in the position of repeating mistakes, over and over and over again...while consistently asserting that he's "right." while everyone (including a three year old) realizes, "he's wrong." (SNIP).

Something else that I find very telling and very dangerous about Obama is his propensity to consider even the slightest criticism or difference in point of view a personal attack, his complete inability to brush anything at all off and the fact that he simply must respond to everything. Witness his "Fight the Smears" website and "shock troops." It is these qualities that have allowed John McCain to push Obama into playing a bad defense and it is precisely these propensities that spell disaster should we as a nation be foolish enough to place Obama in charge.

329 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:08:16pm

re: #158 yma o hyd

He definitely lost weight - his suit looked loose - and i loathe the way he tries to touch O'Reilly, but then, thats what community organisers do to show they ahve empathy ...

Obama looks like a gentle breeze would topple him.

330 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:08:17pm

"White supremacists love having babies

They fear the disappearance of the "white race." That's the only reason why they're against abortion. They encourage their people to have as many kids as possible."

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

331 chukardog  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:08:34pm

#246 Ben hur- Huh? what was wrong with it? My wife of ten years loved it and sent it to all her friends.

332 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:08:42pm

re: #321 Kenneth

Don't blame Obama! He tried to block the Surge, but those evil Republicans managed to somehow go against his brilliant advice.

333 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:08:43pm
“I know that I’m not your typical presidential candidate,” Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., told executives and employees of the Schott glass company Friday afternoon, “and I just want to be honest with you. I know that.”
“And I know that the temptation is to say, ‘You know what? …The guy hasn’t been there that long in Washington.,’ You know, ‘he’s got funny name,’ You know, ‘we’re not sure about him,’” Obama continued. “And that’s what the Republicans, when they say, ‘This isn’t about issues, it’s about personalities,’ what they’re really saying is, ‘We’re going to try to scare people about Barack. So we’re going to say that you know, maybe he’s got Muslim connections or we’re going to say that, you know, he hangs out with radicals or he’s not patriotic.’

Use Only In Emergency.

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334 Lynn B.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:08:50pm

re: #302 wolfie

This is ludicrous. Insane.

I think that article and video are misleading. The area they're talking about is a sensitive piece of land in an area that's pretty much a no-man's land in the Judean hills. I'm pretty sure it's outside the greater Jerusalem boundaries and it's certainly outside of any settled community.

Arutz 7 can get a little carried away at times. Some of these orchestrated battles tend to undermine the more important overall objective.

335 cyclosarin  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:08:54pm

Obama has a glass jaw.

336 daddyo  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:09:17pm
337 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:09:21pm

re: #313 runrabbitrun

hi ((scottishbuzzsaw))! And a VERY good afternoon to you (which it is for us 'Pubbies :) )

If the Dems find themselves in China, they'll probably look for a way to get as many citizens of the most populous country in the world the right to vote - Dem, of course (hey, why try for just the felons?)


Hello {runrabbitrun}! It is indeed a very good afternoon. The last two nights have restored a measure of hope I thought lost. How goes all with you, kindred soul?

338 favre4favre  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:09:24pm

How can something that is already perverted be perverted? People freak out over scientology, which is a money cult, and yet make excuses for the death cult that is Islam. Need to identify the enemy befoe we can defeat it.

339 Spider Mensch  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:10:01pm

re: #284 Dark_Falcon

No, he's a demon turd. Human crap doesn't stink as bad as he does.

here is Mr Obamey, the election poo.."Howdy ho everybody. vote for me!"

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340 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:10:22pm

re: #325 Silhouette

Ever since Clinton was impeached for lying, it is imperative that every conservative be shown to be a liar.

Even if all they have is pathetic stuff like spelling a name differently. Or putting/selling differences on ebay.

Speaking of misspellings, my mother named me after herself, but spelled it wrong. She'd been spelling her own name wrong her whole life, and just passed it along to me. We found her birth certificate and wasn't she surprised to learn her name actually was the tradional spelling.


Anfernee?

341 lurking faith  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:10:47pm

re: #206 cliffster

Up there, but I think this was the best line... "Let's get one thing clear - only one man in this race has actually fought for you."

I still have to go with: "Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy."

342 looking closely  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:11:02pm

re: #298 Celtic Templar

I think it worked to McCain's advantage ... made Obama not look like a messiah ... figuratively knocked him off mount olympus, not b/c of Oreilly, but because there wasn't anything special about it. And his minions think he is specially. The center doesn't get the Obama phenomenon, but when Palin is on, something special is on...

The problem with O'Reilly interviewing Obama was that instead of the hard-cutting "no spin" interview, we ended up with something not that dissimilar to the blind leading the blind.

We had OK questions from O'Reilly but no depth in following them up.

"Exactly what sort of cooperation with the Europeans would you like to see that the Bush administration hasn't tried in multilateral talks for the last eight years"?

"I've never heard you acknowledge the success of the surge before, only say multiple times that it has been a failure and that you were against it. When did you change your mind about it?"

"Exactly what political progress have we not seen in Iraq that you believe we should have seen by now, and how do you think pulling American soldiers out of the theater is going to get it to happen"?

And O'Reilly really didn't address the Iran question appropriately, he asked Obama if he was prepared to use military force. . .of course he'd say "yes". That's not the right question. The question is, *We've been negotiating multilaterally for several years, and have run into roadblocks put up by the Russians and Chinese. At what point do you believe that multilateral negotiations have failed. What is the trigger for military action?*.

343 Lynn B.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:11:03pm

Personally, I find this a lot more ludicrous and insane.

Peres: I oppose the use of military force against Iran

344 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:11:14pm

re: #315 Alouette

She must be a race traitor, married to a half-breed Eskimo.

Ohh - nice one!

But - wouldn't that mak her work doubly hard for this Supremacy, as an atonement?

(Gawd - these mindsets are just so easy to play with ...)

345 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:11:17pm

re: #319 kansas

Hey, don't Eskimos share their wives? I'm going to Alaska by gosh.

I don't think Alaska is the place to go for women (Palin withstanding). If I recall correctly, there are 50 men for every woman. So the competition is tough for men.

Okay, I made up the 50-1 ratio, but it is uneven.

WHERE THE BOYS ARE

Where should you hunt for a mate? If you're a single woman looking for a single man, Alaska is still a gold mine. Our study, however, focused on the continental U.S., where the following counties led the pack for available men:

Chattahoochee County, GA
Union County, FL
Jones County, TX
DeKalb County, MO
Crowley County, CO

Men looking for women should check out:

Bristol, VA
Franklin, VA
Pulaski County, GA
Monroe County, WV
Randolph County, GA

346 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:11:24pm

There are so many quotable headdesk inducing posts...

347 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:11:27pm

I'm still trying to wrap my brain around "Nittally Lions."

348 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:11:46pm
349 yesandno  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:12:14pm

O'Rielly was persistent in an attempt to prove HE was correct, not whether or not Obama was correct. So we get an almost admission on the success of the surge because that is what Bill believes. It is not wrong, but it is not objective journalism and so he will not get an honest answer because the questions are trying to back up Bill's positions, not get at Obama's.

He hinted that the remainder of the interview, next week, reveals more info, but this hardly revealed anything.

Thought that the Obama slump in the chair revealed more then the words did.

All O'Rielly wanted to do was get to evaluations of HIS performance...like a child looking for approval. He is always pretending to be tough when he is basically trying to put himself in the good light. Again, not saying much for objective journalism.

I would prefer Obama was interviewed by Glenn Beck...he may not be the best news person, but he is a thinker...to take off on his own line.

He had an hour long discussion last night on the real Obama....very interesting.

350 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:12:17pm

re: #327 goddessoftheclassroom

Well, the bunny thought so at first...

LOL!

And it looks like he was in the fire up to ear!

351 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:12:18pm

re: #347 wolfie

I'm still trying to wrap my brain around "Nittally Lions."

What's that about?

352 kynna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:12:22pm

re: #295 Kenneth

There must be a competition among lefties to out-numbskull each other right?

The Palins spelled their son's name "Trig" instead of "Trygg" so that is somehow a lie and proves she's an white supremacist?

Lies! Scandal! Babies!

353 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:12:50pm

re: #330 Sparkizzy

"White supremacists love having babies

They fear the disappearance of the "white race." That's the only reason why they're against abortion. They encourage their people to have as many kids as possible."

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H!

Well hell's bells. "Palestinians" are not "white racists" but palestinian women often have 10 or more children.

354 so.cal.swede  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:12:51pm

re: #319 kansas

Hey, don't Eskimos share their wives? I'm going to Alaska by gosh.

I think the (partly correct) stereotype is that wives have multiple husbands.

355 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:12:52pm

re: #343 Lynn B.

Personally, I find this a lot more ludicrous and insane.

Peres: I oppose the use of military force against Iran

Peres is and always has been a moron. He is Cindy Sheehan with a Knesset seat.

356 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:13:19pm

re: #316 WrathofG-d

Civilizations die by suicide.

We live in terrible times.

357 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:13:25pm

re: #315 Alouette

That's what Whoopi believes:
Palin's speech sounds like a Bund rally

358 SecondComing  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:13:49pm

re: #257 wright1

Don't be surprised - people have paid for Britney Spears' turd

Federline was up on Ebay?

359 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:13:52pm

Oprah's get her ass kicked on oprah dot com /community/community/tows/talkabout

360 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:14:06pm

"Thanks for the correction. I was going on her own story about Trig's name - turns out she lied.

Palin herself said that Trig was a Norse name, but apparently the Norse version is spelled Trygg, so she lied about that."

Ok, I promise I'll stop now

361 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:14:08pm

re: #329 debutaunt

Obama looks like a gentle breeze would topple him.

He can't be heavy; he's the Lightworker.

362 Cognito  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:14:14pm

With apologies to Davey Crockett:

Born in a city called Leningrad,
His apparatchik parents named him Vlad.
Raised in the woods so's he knew every tree,
Killed him a tiger so they'd put it on TV.

Vlady, Vlady Putin!

King of the New Empire.


/he happened to be holding a tranquilizer gun!

363 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:01pm

ot:

Because of the Iraq war there are no available troops to protect the homeland or do anything else....we are doooooooommmmed!

Oh wait...nevermind.

364 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:06pm

re: #353 galloping granny

Well hell's bells. "Palestinians" are not "white racists" but palestinian women often have 10 or more children.

But they are doing it for the right reason. Or doing it because the evil Israeli blockade is keeping contraceptives from them and therefore punishing them with children. Or...I don't know, but I know that the Palestinians are not wrong and somehow, it's my fault.

365 nikis-knight  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:13pm

re: #186 wright1

Sort of contradicts what Oprah was supposed to stand for - you know, the free exchange of ideas Feelings...

Fixed it for you.

366 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:28pm

re: #286 J.S.

The Iranians must be laughing and rubbing their hands with glee...

The Kennedy-Khrushchev Conference for Dummies

In Portland on May 18, Obama cited John F. Kennedy's 1961 summit with Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev in Vienna among the series of negotiations that led to America's triumph over the Soviet Union in the Cold War. The Vienna summit, however, disproves Obama's assertion...

"I never met a man like this," Kennedy subsequently commented to Time's Hugh Sidey. "[I] talked about how a nuclear exchange would kill 70 million people in ten minutes, and he just looked at me as if to say 'So what?'" In The Fifty-Year Wound, Cold War historian Derek Leebaert drily observes of Khrushchev in Vienna, "Having worked for Stalin had its uses."


Khrushchev berated, belittled, and bullied Kennedy on subjects ranging from Communist ideology to the balance of power between the Soviet and Western blocs, to Laos, to "wars of national liberation," to nuclear testing. He threw down the gauntlet on Berlin in particular, all but threatening war.


Kennedy said to Reston that Khrushchev had "just beat [the] hell out of me" and that he had presented Kennedy with a terrible problem: "If he thinks I'm inexperienced and have no
guts, until we remove those ideas we won't get anywhere with him. So we have to act."


Seeking the advice of former Secretary of State Dean Acheson and others, Kennedy pondered his options...he was seeking congressional approval for an additional $3.25 billion in defense spending, the doubling and tripling of draft calls, calling up reserves, raising the Army's total authorized strength, increasing active duty numbers in the Navy and Air Force, reconditioning planes and ships in mothballs...


In August, Khrushchev responded in his own fashion, erecting the Berlin wall and resuming above ground nuclear testing.

The following year brought the Cuban missile crisis, another sequel to Khrushchev's reading of Kennedy's weakness. Close as the Cuban missile crisis brought the two sides to war, however, it was perhaps not the most consequential effect of Khrushchev's reading of Kennedy's weakness. Persuaded that he needed further to demonstrate "fearlessness and backbone," in the words of William Manchester, Kennedy observed to Reston that the only place where the Communists were challenging the West in a shooting war was in Southeast Asia. Summarizing Kennedy's own evaluation of the aftermath of the Vienna conference in his 2003 biography of Kennedy, Robert Dallek writes that Kennedy "now needed to convince Khrushchev that he could not be pushed around, and the best place currently to make U.S. power credible seemed to be in Vietnam."

And Khrushchev wasn't a religious maniac who believed that an apocalyptic confrontation would cause the reappearance of the 12th imam.

367 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:43pm

re: #328 galloping granny

Agree.
It also indicates that, should he win, he'll be surrounded by yes-men. And that is a perfect recipe for disaster, or so history tells us.

368 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:43pm

re: #359 Ben Hur

Oprah's get her ass kicked on oprah dot com /community/community/tows/talkabout

Wow.

369 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:46pm

re: #357 Celtic Templar

That's what Whoopi believes:
Palin's speech sounds like a Bund rally

And Obama's stage was not straight out of a 1939 rally in Berlin? Right down to the set itself - of which there are pictures?

370 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:52pm

re: #356 wolfie

Civilizations die by suicide.

We live in terrible times.

A thousand up-dings!

371 guzziguy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:15:55pm

re: #110 Ben Hur

Top 7 Myths, Lies and Untruths About Sarah Palin

I have to admit that I'm just a bit disappointed that the bikini one is a fake.

/kidding...............maybe

372 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:16:27pm

re: #327 goddessoftheclassroom

Well, the bunny thought so at first...


{goddess{
what up? how did it go today in the classroom?

373 alegrias  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:16:47pm

re: #328 galloping granny

Something else that I find very telling and very dangerous about Obama is his propensity to consider even the slightest criticism or difference in point of view a personal attack, his complete inability to brush anything at all off and the fact that he simply must respond to everything. Witness his "Fight the Smears" website and "shock troops." It is these qualities that have allowed John McCain to push Obama into playing a bad defense and it is precisely these propensities that spell disaster should we as a nation be foolish enough to place Obama in charge.

* * *
Nice observation that fake peaceniks are so MARTIAL when it comes to their brittle egos. Though they will let third rate dictators take potshots at our country with impunity and JOIN in the bullying & dissing by Chavez, Fidel, Zapatero, Morales and other banana leftists.

Their "offense" against Sarah Palin was offensive on purpose, it is their trademark now.

This is the party that "Borked" Robert Bork's nomination and stomped on Clarence Thomas' nominations and engaged in the "politics of personal destruction" of probably countless other Republican nominees whose nominations are still held up by democrats!

374 favre4favre  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:16:48pm

re: #353 galloping granny


Those are fodder for the death cult.

375 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:16:56pm

re: #331 chukardog

#246 Ben hur- Huh? what was wrong with it? My wife of ten years loved it and sent it to all her friends.

Member since 2004.

Don't you know me by now?

Too quick on with the negative ding.

WAS JOKE.

376 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:17:02pm

re: #367 yma o hyd

It also indicates that, should he win, he'll be surrounded by yes-men. And that is a perfect recipe for disaster, or so history tells us.

Repeatedly...

377 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:17:07pm

re: #364 Silhouette

But they are doing it for the right reason. Or doing it because the evil Israeli blockade is keeping contraceptives from them and therefore punishing them with children. Or...I don't know, but I know that the Palestinians are not wrong and somehow, it's my fault.

They're doing it because they need ammo, or at least the guidance package for [suicide] bombs.

378 HBob  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:17:30pm

When Obama says about the surge - “I’ve already said it’s succeeded beyond our wildest dreams” it shows how surprised he is when the military succeeds. He expects failure from the military. He doesn't think they are competent. And I guess Obama wants us to think that those who supported the surge were just trying the surge without any expectations of success. A lucky "Oh, what the f*ck!" moment in history.

You think this a**hat will ever use the military for anything other than humanitarian aid delivery?

What a f*cking tool.

379 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:17:50pm

I refused to listen to O'Reilly's interview with Obama, but he's on the radio now playing excerpts. Obama sounds like a bumbling idiot.

380 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:17:51pm

re: #362 Cognito

With apologies to Davey Crockett:

Born in a city called Leningrad,
His apparatchik parents named him Vlad.
Raised in the woods so's he knew every tree,
Killed him a tiger so they'd put it on TV.

Vlady, Vlady Putin!

King of the New Empire.


/he happened to be holding a tranquilizer gun!

Speaking of, I happen to have review copies of various things show up on my desk. Yesterday's offering - the Tsar, new soon-to-be released book by Ted Bell. He must have had a really good crystal ball when he wrote this one.

381 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:17:53pm

re: #354 so.cal.swede

I think the (partly correct) stereotype is that wives have multiple husbands.

so your saying Sarah is still available?
/ ya..I know i need this

382 runrabbitrun  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:18:19pm

re: #337 scottishbuzzsaw

Hello {runrabbitrun}! It is indeed a very good afternoon. The last two nights have restored a measure of hope I thought lost. How goes all with you, kindred soul?

sweetie, I have given myself a day off from outside duties ::playing Ferris Bueller music:: because I took care of my youngest grandson last weekend; he's not yet a year old, and I still don't understand how his little baby sniffles translate into a major headcold for me =O (of course, them pre-schooler germs can be even worse).

Of course, I have found a zillion tasks to do while I am 'resting' here. Have you ever noticed that when you are at work, you somehow find time in your day to read the newspaper, but on your weekend or sick days, you never do? That's the kind of day it's been, but I'm loving the freedom anyways.

How are you today? Planning a big weekend?

383 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:18:37pm
384 HBob  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:19:34pm

re: #379 kansas

I refused to listen to O'Reilly's interview with Obama, but he's on the radio now playing excerpts. Obama sounds like a bumbling idiot.

And the moonbats say Bush can't put a sentence together. Obama drives me nuts with all that stuttering and stammering.

385 Age Of Freedom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:19:59pm

0bama doesn't believe all the Islamists are part of the same ideology.

This, is where he's fatally wrong.

386 chukardog  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:20:21pm

Doh! sorry ben hur. I always liked your posts and you have way more updings from me!

387 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:20:52pm
388 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:20:54pm

re: #373 alegrias

* * *
Nice observation that fake peaceniks are so MARTIAL when it comes to their brittle egos. Though they will let third rate dictators take potshots at our country with impunity and JOIN in the bullying & dissing by Chavez, Fidel, Zapatero, Morales and other banana leftists.

Their "offense" against Sarah Palin was offensive on purpose, it is their trademark now.

This is the party that "Borked" Robert Bork's nomination and stomped on Clarence Thomas' nominations and engaged in the "politics of personal destruction" of probably countless other Republican nominees whose nominations are still held up by democrats!

If it means anything, I spent all of today traveling to and around Amherst and Hadley, Massachusetts. Amherst is the home of the University of Massachusetts, Amherst College, and Hampshire College. In all my driving around I saw one McCain lawn sign (small) and no signs for Obama at all (though I did see two of those in Claremont, NH a couple of days ago big enough to qualify as billboards in many towns). No bumper stickers.

389 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:21:07pm

In a dogfight, cooler heads end up on their opponents six and excitable rookies end up with a missile up it. Don't look now Bambi, but your wingman is fixing his hairpiece, false teeth, and cufflinks.

390 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:21:18pm

re: #324 Dark_Falcon

I say, feed Putin to the 'Cuda.

391 kynna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:21:42pm

re: #378 HBob

When Obama says about the surge - “I’ve already said it’s succeeded beyond our wildest dreams” it shows how surprised he is when the military succeeds. He expects failure from the military. He doesn't think they are competent. And I guess Obama wants us to think that those who supported the surge were just trying the surge without any expectations of success. A lucky "Oh, what the f*ck!" moment in history.

You think this a**hat will ever use the military for anything other than humanitarian aid delivery?

What a f*cking tool.

Anyone who wants to see what will happen to the military under Obama just needs to read/watch Black Hawk Down. That was Clinton's show and Obama is promising more of the same.

392 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:21:48pm
393 SecondComing  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:22:08pm

re: #321 Kenneth

Q: Tell me, who & what made that possible?

A: John McCain and the Surge.

But Obama is still against it. If Obama had his way, and had blocked the surge, we would be looking at an ongoing genocide, a civil war and a wider regional war in the Middle East right now.

And Biden would have had Iraq split up. hmmm...Segregation?

what a couple of dolts.

394 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:22:21pm

re: #385 Age Of Freedom


Wait! They all are NOT part of the same ideology. Just like there are uninvolved or "reform" Jews or Christians....there are the equivalent in Muslims. There are many perfectly fine Muslims!

395 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:22:21pm

re: #343 Lynn B.

You're whipping me around, LB!
Made me feel better re one post, then hit me w/ that one!

Israel and the US have to get their act together.
They have to get past leftist idiocy.

396 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:22:40pm

re: #309 WrathofG-d

tap, tap, tap....this thing on?

Some Good Old Russian Propaganda: Putin Single Handedly Defeats Tiger In The Wild.

He must have put that out there to counter Sarah's deer-slaying bona fides. Next up, Li'l Kim fillets a polar bear.

397 daddyo  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:22:42pm

re: #379 kansas

I refused to listen to O'Reilly's interview with Obama...


It seems most of you folks don't like O'Reilly, but has any other media person conducted a tougher harder-hitting interview of Obama?

At least O'Reilly got him to admit the Surge worked "beyond our wildest dreams".

398 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:22:50pm

re: #388 galloping granny

If it means anything, I spent all of today traveling to and around Amherst and Hadley, Massachusetts. Amherst is the home of the University of Massachusetts, Amherst College, and Hampshire College. In all my driving around I saw one McCain lawn sign (small) and no signs for Obama at all (though I did see two of those in Claremont, NH a couple of days ago big enough to qualify as billboards in many towns). No bumper stickers.

Interesting!

By the way, you get me fearsomely homesick when you write about New England!

399 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:22:52pm

Obviously, the pro-Palin posts on Oprah's site are Rove's work
/

400 Intrepid  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:23:18pm

Oh now, these are particularly fun to make NOW!

Hep!

401 looking closely  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:23:26pm

re: #312 Iron Fist

That's a good question, especially given the fact that the Russians and the French were already playing fast and loose with the "sanctions". What would be left of those sanctions today if the US had backed down? What would be going on in Saddam's WMD factories today if we haddn't gone to war?

I'm sure O'Reilly won't ask Obama these questions, but they were questions that needed to be answered before the decision was made to rashly turn away from a necessary war.


Whether the war in Iraq was "necessary", is somewhat of a semantic and normative issue, but it is pretty clear that things deteriorated to the point where sanctions weren't working, so it was either depose Hussein by force, continue the sham, or effectively release him.

It also bears repeating that the major responsibility for the war falls squarely on Saddam Hussein himself. He made the bluff, we called the bluff. If he had simply permitted unfettered inspections, he'd not only still be in power, he'd have had all sanctions removed at this point.

The point is, even knowing what we know now (or what we think we now know), that Hussein didn't have a working stash of WMD, you could *still* make a pretty strong case for an invasion given his personal history an inadequacy of oversight.

Now, you could make a case that in terms of military priority, Iraq shouldn't have been at the top of the list (I'm looking at Iran here), but that's sort of a different argument.

402 turn  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:23:30pm

I watched this O'r clip last night and started thinking back about the success of the surge. McCain might have been calling for the surge long before Bush but as it turns out my first recollection of a call for a "surge" on Baghdad came from Omar at Iraq the Model. It took a while to find the post I was thinking about and I'm probably on a dead thread by now but here it is "The battle for Baghdad":

[Link: iraqthemodel.blogspot.com...]

He had the wisdom to realize the importance of securing Baghdad back in May of 06.

403 runrabbitrun  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:23:42pm

re: #220 mbabbitt

Just an elaboration: The war went badly -- which Bush finally had to admit but then he did change his action by ordering the Surge.....

O'Reilly laid off too soon. He forgot to ask Obama what would have happened in Iraq had we not had the surge, as Barry preferred, and what Barry would have done about the consequences.

404 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:23:52pm

re: #385 Age Of Freedom

0bama doesn't believe all the Islamists are part of the same ideology.

This, is where he's fatally wrong.

Obama would have a much clearer understanding if he had grown up with siblings. I might hate my sister's guts, but don't you dare touch her because she is MY sister. I think that attitude is going to play big come November too.

405 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:23:57pm

re: #357 Celtic Templar

That's what Whoopi believes:
Palin's speech sounds like a Bund rally

WTF does Whoopi mean by Bund? The logical thing is the German American Bund, which had all but disappeared more than a decade before she was born in 1955.

This is the sound made by a whoopi cushion, not someone with an intellect.

406 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:24:23pm

re: #357 Celtic Templar

That's what Whoopi believes:
Palin's speech sounds like a Bund rally

I don't listen to people who don't have eyebrows.

407 Dead Sea Squirrel  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:24:35pm

OT, but in case you hadn't heard, McCain's acceptance speech drew more viewers than Obama's

[Link: www.thrfeed.com...]

408 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:24:49pm

re: #357 Celtic Templar

That's what Whoopi believes:
Palin's speech sounds like a Bund rally

Quote from that link:

'I just found the whole thing sad and very musty and very much like a Bund rally, but maybe that was just me.'
Yep, Whoopsie, that was just you ...

409 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:24:52pm

re: #396 doppelganglander

What cracks me up about that article is that they claim that Putin was able to react extremely quickly and shoot the tiger with a dart.

Yea, right, like Putin was walking around randomly with a camera crew, through the forest with a dart gun on him....and then just coincidently happened to be there when a tiger attacked.

410 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:24:52pm

re: #328 galloping granny

Something else that I find very telling and very dangerous about Obama is his propensity to consider even the slightest criticism or difference in point of view a personal attack, his complete inability to brush anything at all off and the fact that he simply must respond to everything.


In many mechanics, there is a control loop: whatever measured value gets off-target, an action is taken to correct. Over-corrections are common and the controls then correct the other way. The end result is something that looks like a decaying sine wave.

This is a good thing, and symbolically represents what democracy and good advisors do for a country that gets offtrack. And they ALL get offtrack, because we are all human. So a mechanism is needed to get back on-track.

But a dictator does not listen to correction. His underlings are afraid to report things going wrong. This is a recipe for disaster because there is no control, no correction when offtrack, so that errors multiply and grow until it explodes.

Bottom line: taking criticism is VITAL.

411 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:24:58pm

re: #385 Age Of Freedom

0bama doesn't believe all the Islamists are part of the same ideology.

This, is where he's fatally wrong.


Fatally for us if he is elected. He'll just wear his garb and visit the 57 states.

412 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:25:25pm
413 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:26:25pm

re: #369 galloping granny

re: #392 ploome hineni

Don't you know Republicans are Nazis?

/

414 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:26:40pm

re: #372 HoosierHoops

{goddess{
what up? how did it go today in the classroom?

{HoosierHoops}

Good day, good week--but staying up to watch the convention has wiped me out!

415 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:26:45pm

re: #315 Alouette

She must be a race traitor, married to a half-breed Eskimo.

OK. That tears it. I personally am 1/32 (maybe 1/16) "Native", which apparently makes me a "teensy breed?"?

One day, Todd Palin will be First Dude.
He will, while learning "First Dudeshipness", become far more sophisticated, and far more elegant as a result of the learning experience. He will have access to elegant surroundings, and exposure to highly educated people.

As an avid boating enthusiast, he will have access to currently unavailable opportunities.
Instead of taking kids on his fishing boat, he will be able to take advantage of the finer, more polished opportunities, such as obtaining membership in a Yacht Club.

And when that happens, he will be proud of his Red Sons of the Sailset.

And that is how an Indian properly addresses such scurrilous remarks.
(/, if you didn't get it)

416 Age Of Freedom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:27:03pm

here-here-here-here-here-here-here-here-what-what- -(bush derangement syndrome)--wait-wait-wait-wait-wait--nonononononon ononononon-nonononon-what-what-what-uh-uh-uhhhhhh (bush derangement syndrome).
Nononononono (bush derangement syndrome) And-and-and-and.
We-we-we-we-we-can't-can't-can't (bush derangement syndrome).

Sigh, it's exactly the same type of responses I get from liberals, only far more aggressive.

417 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:27:27pm

re: #398 scottishbuzzsaw

Interesting!

By the way, you get me fearsomely homesick when you write about New England!

Come visit then! Great time of year. Warmer than it was all summer but the tourists have mostly gone home so the prices are low. Speaking of, gas was down to $3.56 this afternoon!

418 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:27:44pm

re: #397 daddyo

It seems most of you folks don't like O'Reilly, but has any other media person conducted a tougher harder-hitting interview of Obama?

At least O'Reilly got him to admit the Surge worked "beyond our wildest dreams".

What do you mean you folks? You dissing me cause I'm black? Plus, why would you take my post out of context? I refused to listen to O'Reilly's interview with Obama, but he's on the radio now playing excerpts. Obama sounds like a bumbling idiot.

419 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:27:45pm

re: #382 runrabbitrun

sweetie, I have given myself a day off from outside duties ::playing Ferris Bueller music:: because I took care of my youngest grandson last weekend; he's not yet a year old, and I still don't understand how his little baby sniffles translate into a major headcold for me =O (of course, them pre-schooler germs can be even worse).

Of course, I have found a zillion tasks to do while I am 'resting' here. Have you ever noticed that when you are at work, you somehow find time in your day to read the newspaper, but on your weekend or sick days, you never do? That's the kind of day it's been, but I'm loving the freedom anyways.

How are you today? Planning a big weekend?


I remember those pre-schooler germs well! Hope you feel better soon! And 'resting' at home is, I think, impossible. You can't not notice what needs doing. Speaking of grandchildren, our son and daughter-in-law, married over 3 years now, are looking to start a family. Can't wait to hold my first!

We're having a quiet weekend, which is our norm. Bookwormy types. So many books, so little time! Hope you have a wonderful one!

420 alegrias  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:27:51pm

re: #298 Celtic Templar

I think it worked to McCain's advantage ... made Obama not look like a messiah ... figuratively knocked him off mount olympus, not b/c of Oreilly, but because there wasn't anything special about it. And his minions think he is specially. The center doesn't get the Obama phenomenon, but when Palin is on, something special is on...

* * *
Agree it worked for the best. Obama was stuck alone in some boring office with O'Reilly in a frumpy chair, trying to sound tough.

Any moonbat watching Obama sounding hawkish--Ouch! Cognitive dissonance. More bloom off the rose.

Meanwhile in the background are tons of happy looking regular Americans who aren't depressed and mopey like the democrats' ads portray "regular" Americans.

421 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:28:11pm

re: #407 Dead Sea Squirrel

OT, but in case you hadn't heard, McCain's acceptance speech drew more viewers than Obama's

[Link: www.thrfeed.com...]

Palin's speech came in at just 1 million less than Obama's Coronation - even though only 6 networks carried Palins to Obama's 10.

422 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:29:08pm

re: #351 Sparkizzy

What's that about?

I just don't think "Nittally" Lions is an ordinary slip of the tongue.
It's much harder to say than Nittany.

I am a mild-mannered, middle-aged lady and I have heard of the Nittany Lions.

It's just one more of those little indications that Barack is a bubbleboy, an out of touch elitist.

423 Age Of Freedom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:29:46pm

re: #394 WrathofG-d

Wait! They all are NOT part of the same ideology. Just like there are uninvolved or "reform" Jews or Christians....there are the equivalent in Muslims. There are many perfectly fine Muslims!

Did you see how he was so upset listing the few "disassociated" networks, who have Jihacked Islam? It's like:
"How dare you put me in this position of almost insulting 32,32,02302,3203,02,206,05604056063046,0206,204,62 0602620Ωåß∂ƒ˚I 0; trillion Muslims?

424 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:30:10pm

re: #422 wolfie

Obama is using the Nittany Lions name in vain ... Oh man, heads will roll

/Lifetime Alumnus

425 Blue Falcon  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:30:33pm

Apparently those Code Pink protesters MIGHT HAVE gotten into the RNC with MSNBC badges If this gets confirmed this will be a major scandal for the the media still trying to claim they aren't biased.

426 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:30:47pm

re: #418 kansas

What do you mean you folks? You dissing me cause I'm black? Plus, why would you take my post out of context? I refused to listen to O'Reilly's interview with Obama, but he's on the radio now playing excerpts. Obama sounds like a bumbling idiot.

Are you black? I can't see from over here . . . . :) I don't like O'Reilly either and also refused to listen to the thing. As a matter of fact, I have been so disgusted with Fox anchors talking and "analyzing" right through the convention speeches I switched to CSpan.

427 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:30:55pm

re: #393 SecondComing

IF the surge had been blocked and congress forced the US military to withdraw from Iraq, then Iraq would indeed have divided up into sectarian enclaves: the Kurds would declared independence, the Shiite south would have been dominated by Iran and the Sunni triangle would be held by al Qaeda. All of Iraq's neighbors would have been drawn into the civil war: Turkey to fight the Kurds, Syria, Iran, Jordan, Kuwait & Saudi Arabia. All in. It would have been horrendous, bloody war. People don't realize how close we came to that happening.

428 alegrias  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:30:56pm

re: #332 Iron Fist

Don't blame Obama! He tried to block the Surge, but those evil Republicans managed to somehow go against his brilliant advice.

* * *
President Bush probably had to "buy" their support for the surge too--with pork. I'm just guessing.

And "God Bless Joe Lieberman" for voting FOR the surge, as Lindsay Graham said in his speech. Wasn't the vote FOR the surge only won by two votes in the Senate?

429 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:31:00pm

re: #390 Cap'n DOC

I say, feed Putin to the 'Cuda.

No, with his probable training, anyone facing him hand-to-hand will need a very high degree of skill. Palin does not have that. A martial arts master or special forces man is needed.

430 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:31:16pm

re: #413 Celtic Templar

Had a meal yesterday with an exceptional friend whom I hadn't seen all that much lately, yesterday during the McCain speech. As one would imagine, we began discussing politics. After I had explained to him that I was a Conservative and would be voting for McCain, and a few conversations about his voting for Obama, etc., the conversation turned to race, racism, and race relations in America today. Throughout the entire conversation, we were disagreeing on everything, but doing so very respectfully.

Anyway, while discussing race, my friend, most likely unintentionally, pretty much stated that all Republicans were racist, and would never vote for a black president. What stuck the most about this comment, was that it was said AFTER my friend was very aware that I was a Conservative...and thus, he was calling me a racist.

My friend is African-American.

431 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:31:18pm

I can see it now. John Kerry consoling Obama after the election. "Take deep breaths, relax, have a waffle."

432 daddyo  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:31:19pm

re: #418 kansas

What do you mean you folks?...


"Folks"? Ooops, I meant to say "youze guys". Or "y'all".

Anyway, IMHO, O'Reilly has thus far conducted the toughest interview of Obama.

433 Jimash  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:31:35pm

re: #192 JeremiahRight

at 3:37 Bill says:
"alright let's go to Iraq. I think history will show it's the wrong battlefield, okay? And I think that you were perspicacious in your original assessment of the battlefield."
Barry: "I appreciate that"
Bill: "I think you were desperately wrong on the surge, and I think you should admit it to the nation that now, we have defeated the terrorists in Iraq, and they, the al Qaeda came there after we invaded as you know blah blah blah"

That is supposed to represent some reasonable viewpoint on which we all can agree.
I do not agree to it.
It's a bullshit premise that sets up the whole domino line of wrong.
It ignores the enemy .
I asked my dem Mother-in;law
"If, in WWII they knew that the Japanese were interested in an island would it have been wrong to get there first ?"

434 Dead Sea Squirrel  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:32:04pm

re: #421 galloping granny

Palin's speech came in at just 1 million less than Obama's Coronation - even though only 6 networks carried Palins to Obama's 10.

Factor in PBS (which Nielsen doesn't count) and Sarah got 40 million viewers, actually beating Obama's viewership.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

435 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:32:14pm

re: #425 Blue Falcon

Apparently those Code Pink protesters MIGHT HAVE gotten into the RNC with MSNBC badges If this gets confirmed this will be a major scandal for the the media still trying to claim they aren't biased.

If that is confirmed, MSNBC will have far more than a scandal on their hands.

436 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:32:15pm

re: #425 Blue Falcon

Apparently those Code Pink protesters MIGHT HAVE gotten into the RNC with MSNBC badges If this gets confirmed this will be a major scandal for the the media still trying to claim they aren't biased.

Hi Falcon, this Keith Olbermann. I gave my pass to the code pink people. So what? Let me know when you see that on anything but a right wingnut site.
Major scandal my ass.
/

437 wintercat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:32:22pm

re: #84 LegendXXX

I am not willing to put it to the test. For the past 50 years the extreme left have been quietly working toward their goal of the destruction of the capitalist system we have in this country and replacing it with a socialistic/communistic model. Inch by inch we have learned to accept judges ruling from the bench, criminals having more rights than victims, outrageous taxation, quotas, etc. Most painful of all (IMO) is that people have become afraid to express their opinions for fear of being labeled a racist, a mean person, a Nazi, an Oreo, a Tom, a fascist etc. Little by little we have given up our rights because we don't want to be seen as insensitive.

I believe that if Obama gets in the extreme left will know that they won't get another chance and they will move with all their might to open voting to whomever drops by, open our borders to whomever wants in, and open our wallets to the breaking point. And let me say that I am all for LEGAL immigration as long as the immigrants want to work, speak English, and pursue the American (capitalist) dream.

However, if Obama wins, America will be subject to the whims of the UN and the World Court. Once that happens we will never turn the tide back. America will be changed forever.

438 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:32:22pm

re: #417 galloping granny

Come visit then! Great time of year. Warmer than it was all summer but the tourists have mostly gone home so the prices are low. Speaking of, gas was down to $3.56 this afternoon!


Haven't been back home to NH in almost ten years. We're still looking to settle there again when our nomadic days are done. Take good care of it while we're gone! (STILL can believe the Old Man fell off the mountain!)

439 cliffster  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:32:27pm

re: #422 wolfie

I just don't think "Nittally" Lions is an ordinary slip of the tongue.
It's much harder to say than Nittany.

I am a mild-mannered, middle-aged lady and I have heard of the Nittany Lions.

It's just one more of those little indications that Barack is a bubbleboy, an out of touch elitist.

Or that he is an idiot

440 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:32:28pm

In case you were wondering how Commie Pinkos got into the RNC the last two nights, Gateway Pundit has the scoop. Can you say identity theft? They stole a delegate's identity to get in, so those who were quick to blame MSNBC for letting them in, hold your fire... for now..

441 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:32:31pm

re: #430 WrathofG-d

Had a meal yesterday with an exceptional friend whom I hadn't seen all that much lately, yesterday during the McCain speech. As one would imagine, we began discussing politics. After I had explained to him that I was a Conservative and would be voting for McCain, and a few conversations about his voting for Obama, etc., the conversation turned to race, racism, and race relations in America today. Throughout the entire conversation, we were disagreeing on everything, but doing so very respectfully.

Anyway, while discussing race, my friend, most likely unintentionally, pretty much stated that all Republicans were racist, and would never vote for a black president. What stuck the most about this comment, was that it was said AFTER my friend was very aware that I was a Conservative...and thus, he was calling me a racist.

My friend is African-American.

Lincoln and Martin Luther King, Jr. == Republicans

442 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:32:58pm

re: #386 chukardog

Doh! sorry ben hur. I always liked your posts and you have way more updings from me!

Only on merit!

443 leftover54  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:33:00pm

Anybody know what this Obama / "Public Allies" relationship is about ?

444 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:33:58pm

re: #413 Celtic Templar

Sites such as The Flat Earth Society and this one about Palin, what happens is that when I start reading, I want to stop but I can't seem to.

445 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:34:06pm

re: #396 doppelganglander

I didn't no Ding-Dongs had paws.

446 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:34:08pm

re: #436 kansas

Hi Falcon, this Keith Olbermann. I gave my pass to the code pink people. So what? Let me know when you see that on anything but a right wingnut site.
Major scandal my ass.
/

If proven, it'll be on Fox for sure. And it'll be viewed by more people there than if it ran on Olbermann's eyesore of a network.

447 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:34:08pm

re: #430 WrathofG-d

Had a meal yesterday with an exceptional friend whom I hadn't seen all that much lately, yesterday during the McCain speech. As one would imagine, we began discussing politics. After I had explained to him that I was a Conservative and would be voting for McCain, and a few conversations about his voting for Obama, etc., the conversation turned to race, racism, and race relations in America today. Throughout the entire conversation, we were disagreeing on everything, but doing so very respectfully.

Anyway, while discussing race, my friend, most likely unintentionally, pretty much stated that all Republicans were racist, and would never vote for a black president. What stuck the most about this comment, was that it was said AFTER my friend was very aware that I was a Conservative...and thus, he was calling me a racist.

My friend is African-American.

That is very sad Wrath. Did you call him on that?

448 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:34:12pm

re: #432 daddyo

"Folks"? Ooops, I meant to say "youze guys". Or "y'all".

Anyway, IMHO, O'Reilly has thus far conducted the toughest interview of Obama.

Jus kiddin. I'm not black. Yeah, that was my point. He got in some good points. And Obama was his usual when off the teleprompter. Course how that interviews gets played by the ass licking press will be another thing.

449 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:34:37pm

re: #423 Age Of Freedom

Well, see, I wouldn't agree with him there either. I do not believe that all Muslims are bad, but I'm not going to fool myself into believing that that must then mean that most are peace-loving, non "fundemental", potential Terrorists.

One only need to attend an Anti-Israel rally to see how a "peaceful muslim" can quickly become a rage filled potential fundementalist. (ex: I stood in LA, across from well dressed, "everyday" muslims screaming at me to "go to the gas chamber", "hitler was right, but didn't do enough", "die dirty Jews", and that all of Israel would become muslim lands.

450 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:34:41pm

re: #445 Cap'n DOC

Doh. Know.

451 pre-Boomer's SockPuppy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:34:47pm

re: #414 goddessoftheclassroom

{HoosierHoops}

Good day, good week--but staying up to watch the convention has wiped me out!

oh goody
kitty's tired
... be quiet ...
pad pad pad pad pad
... closer closer ...

452 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:34:56pm

re: #438 scottishbuzzsaw

Haven't been back home to NH in almost ten years. We're still looking to settle there again when our nomadic days are done. Take good care of it while we're gone! (STILL can believe the Old Man fell off the mountain!)

And to think we used to take the Old Man in the Mountain for granite.

453 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:35:06pm

Keith Olbermann already gave his heart, mind and soul to the left loons. Whats a little badge?

454 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:35:28pm

re: #443 leftover54

Anybody know what this Obama / "Public Allies" relationship is about ?

Public Allies & Obama

455 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:35:36pm

re: #309 WrathofG-d

Just as Putin was arriving with a group of wildlife specialists to see a trapped Amur tiger, it escaped and ran towards a nearby camera crew, the country's main television station said. Putin quickly shot the beast and sedated it with a tranquilizer gun.

"Vladimir Putin not only managed to see the giant predator up close but also saved our television crew too," a presenter on Rossiya television said at the start of the main evening news.

I call bullshit.

Now if Putin started shooting some of the journalists instead of the tiger, I would've believed it.

456 deanayer  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:35:42pm

Obama folded like a bad hand of poker on Oreilly. He pissed himself over the troop surge and this while being "grilled" by milquetoast Oreilly. What really kills me is that Obama and other lefties think Oreilly is a conservative, he isnt, he's about a fraction to the right of Joe Leiberman and they all run in fear from him. Lets see Obama get through an interview with Mark Levin !

457 Age Of Freedom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:35:43pm

re: #425 Blue Falcon

Apparently those Code Pink protesters MIGHT HAVE gotten into the RNC with MSNBC badges If this gets confirmed this will be a major scandal for the the media still trying to claim they aren't biased.

I'll be eyeing this one.
Even if it ends up not true, the vast majority of the media is still pretty fucking liberal biased anyway. Around the western world & Israel.

458 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:36:08pm

re: #438 scottishbuzzsaw

Haven't been back home to NH in almost ten years. We're still looking to settle there again when our nomadic days are done. Take good care of it while we're gone! (STILL can believe the Old Man fell off the mountain!)

You'll probably want to move across the river and join us over here in Vermont. A whole bunch of libertarians moved into NH and are trying to turn it into the first Libertarian state in the country.

459 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:36:12pm

RE: Code Pinkster ID Thief
Got it from someone leaving the convention

460 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:36:14pm

re: #452 Kosh's Shadow

And to think we used to take the Old Man in the Mountain for granite.


Oh, that's bad...very bad...LOL!

461 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:36:27pm

re: #455 Fenway_Nation

Ya don't tranq journalists with head shots.

462 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:36:41pm

re: #439 cliffster

Or that he is an idiot

Well, this could get me whacked, but when I was in College, back in the day, and then started working at my first job where I was introduced to the term "Affirmative Action", I found that Affirmative Action students and job applicants were vocabulary challenged and made all sorts of mistakes. Don't know why. You can hear it on radio talk shows all day.

463 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:36:52pm

Keith's still waiting for the promised BJ.

464 HelloDare  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:36:52pm

Those code pinkers could have had a pink gun. I hope they find some way of prosecuting whoever did it.

465 Dave the.....  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:37:29pm

I read the text of Palin's speach today. Refreshed myself on what she said. I can't believe how normal she is.

-Goes to a normal church (NRO guy checked out the online sermans...no Jeramiah Wright moments here)
-sister and brother in law own a service station
-Saw a jet, personal driver and personal chef, and said "I don't need this" and let them all go.
-Hunts
-Snowmobiles
-Husband fishes and works on oil rigs
-Parents worked in a school
-At first looked into building the bridge to the island to help her people, but saw that it was not feasible/cost effective so let it die.
-My parents hometown paper (EC Wisc) had a story on a native of there who lived the Palins for a short while after moving to Alaska (couldn't get into his new house right away). He said they are nice and generous.

466 calcajun  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:37:31pm

OT
Since we have so many discussions on the topic, I thought a little evolutionary humor might be fun on a Friday PM:

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

467 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:37:31pm

re: #447 galloping granny

I intend instead to show him that he is wrong.

Had I directly called him on it, he would have denied it &/or just gotten angry at me. I get the sense that all he actually knows about actual conservitives is what he learns from the media, and unfortunate life experiences.

468 Vergeltung  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:37:39pm

re: #456 deanayer

Obama folded like a bad hand of poker on Oreilly. He pissed himself over the troop surge and this while being "grilled" by milquetoast Oreilly. What really kills me is that Obama and other lefties think Oreilly is a conservative, he isnt, he's about a fraction to the right of Joe Leiberman and they all run in fear from him. Lets see Obama get through an interview with Mark Levin !

Levin has ice in his veins. Obomber would shit himself.

469 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:37:45pm

re: #357 Celtic Templar

"I also thought that this idea of America first coming from her was kind of strange because she was one of the people who wanted to secede from the United States. She was part of a campaign to secede Alaska from the United States of America. So I’m glad she’s back, putting America first."
Whoopi Goldberg
The Left Lies!

Power to the Correct People!
(They're honest.)

470 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:37:46pm

re: #424 Celtic Templar

Obama is using the Nittany Lions name in vain ... Oh man, heads will roll

/Lifetime Alumnus

My OB/GYN is a HUGE fan. He, quite seriously, asked me not to give birth on a Saturday because he had season tickets.

Of course, I went into labor about 7 AM on a a Saturday--he had to turn around and come back to town.

I felt so much better when I learned three other of his patients also had their babies that day!

471 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:38:08pm

re: #458 galloping granny

You'll probably want to move across the river and join us over here in Vermont. A whole bunch of libertarians moved into NH and are trying to turn it into the first Libertarian state in the country.


We'd heard that...are they actually making any progress? (After NH, I think we'd go to Maine...lots of happy memories of Bar Harbor, Booth Bay Harbor, Machias, Acadia, etc.)

472 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:38:18pm

The New Republic article on Obama’s time as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago begins with him telling his mentor why he was quitting. The pay was too low and it didn’t work. “Obama told Kellman that he feared ending up destitute and unhappy like his dad. ‘He wanted to marry and have children, and to have a stable income,’ Kellman recalls.” Obama, to hear tell, stopped being a community organizer because he didn’t want to be a loser.

473 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:38:35pm

re: #464 HelloDare

Pink Gun?

Never heard it referred to as that before!

Sooo stealing it!

LOL!

474 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:38:44pm

I've been told I must be racist because of my accent.

They accuse me of racism (judging character by the way someone looks) but they are the ones judging my character by the way I sound.

Wrath, there was only one bigot at the table, and it wasn't you. An anti-GOP bigot.

475 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:39:09pm

re: #465 Dave the.....

Where do you get a transcript?

476 Dave the.....  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:39:18pm

Interesting Palin smears:

"Her husband is an oil executive" Well, no. As we know he works seasonally on a rig as a steel worker. Nice try.

"She is proud that her sister owns a gas station" Some elites find that below them.

477 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:39:31pm

re: #307 wright1

Right. The most important thing is that there is no story here but when you don't have the facts - make them up - Rudolph Giuliani

“And if the real thing don’t do the trick, you better make up something quick”. - you know who.

478 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:39:40pm

re: #468 Vergeltung

Levin has ice in his veins. Obomber would shit himself.


Levin's brain would crush Barry's brain.

479 runrabbitrun  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:39:47pm

re: #419 scottishbuzzsaw

I remember those pre-schooler germs well! Hope you feel better soon! And 'resting' at home is, I think, impossible. You can't not notice what needs doing. Speaking of grandchildren, our son and daughter-in-law, married over 3 years now, are looking to start a family. Can't wait to hold my first!

We're having a quiet weekend, which is our norm. Bookwormy types. So many books, so little time! Hope you have a wonderful one!

Grandparenthood is truly delicious, but just watching your children grow and develop into responsible, loving adults is also a treat! Enjoy this period of life evolving as much as you will the next; each stage comes and goes so quickly....

You can imagine how bookcentric we are here, it's really bad because of the time we managed the not-for-profit bookstore. When my elderly parents visit, my dad looks glumly at all the shelves of volumes lining every room on the second floor and declares that we will wake up someday and discover that we are in the basement.

I'm sure that YOU have plenty of space for more books, don't you.... allow me to ship you a few dozen cratesful? ;-)

480 Dead Sea Squirrel  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:39:55pm

re: #434 Dead Sea Squirrel

Factor in PBS (which Nielsen doesn't count) and Sarah got 40 million viewers, actually beating Obama's viewership.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Oops. Never mind. With PBS factored in, Obama edged Palin by a million or two.

481 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:40:11pm

re: #455 Fenway_Nation

I call bullshit.

Now if Putin started shooting some of the journalists instead of the tiger, I would've believed it.

No need for him to dirty his hands when his minions can do it for him...

482 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:40:50pm

re: #481 christheprofessor

I still don't believe anyone believes anything coming out of the ex-former Soviet Union

483 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:41:01pm

re: #451 pre-Boomer's SockPuppy

oh goody
kitty's tired
... be quiet ...
pad pad pad pad pad
... closer closer ...


Funny enough, I'm teaching The Call of the Wild now!

This about sums up my thoughts on my avocation

484 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:41:08pm

re: #397 daddyo

I'm not an O'Reilly fan myself, but I think it's a good interview.
It might not be as hard-hitting as some would like, but it is clearly much better than what we've gotten from the tingly-legged crew of the MSM.
I will definitely watch the next segments.

485 cliffster  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:41:29pm

re: #463 Ben Hur

Keith's still waiting for the promised BJ.

Ew

486 Vergeltung  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:42:05pm

re: #476 Dave the.....

Interesting Palin smears:

"Her husband is an oil executive" Well, no. As we know he works seasonally on a rig as a steel worker. Nice try.
"She is proud that her sister owns a gas station" Some elites find that below them.

yeah, cause, no one needs , like, gas and stuff.

487 Vergeltung  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:42:52pm

re: #478 Ben Hur

Levin's brain would crush Barry's brain.

in a new york minute. :)

488 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:42:59pm

re: #422 wolfie

I just don't think "Nittally" Lions is an ordinary slip of the tongue.
It's much harder to say than Nittany.

I am a mild-mannered, middle-aged lady and I have heard of the Nittany Lions.

It's just one more of those little indications that Barack is a bubbleboy, an out of touch elitist.

Not gonna gain him many votes up around Pittsburg either :-). How hard is it to say "NitNee" Lions? This prig hasn't ever heard of them ....

489 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:43:11pm

Hysterical hippies crying over fallen trees....
/Just ignore the a-hole's comments about abortion

490 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:43:42pm

re: #483 goddessoftheclassroom

Funny enough, I'm teaching The Call of the Wild now!

This about sums up my thoughts on my avocation

ROFL!
I was going to come back with an innocent ... "it wasn't ME" ... but this is too priceless to bypass!

491 pegcity  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:43:43pm

re: #447 galloping granny

the DNC was the party of Slavery, confederation, Jim Crow Laws and segregation.

Yeah Republicans are the racist ones.

492 GZLives  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:43:48pm

Creationism?
Sorry but that's where I draw the line.
I like the fact that the Republicans at least raise the issue of radical Islamists but I'm not about to vote for a creationist. Nope ... not me
If you vote knowing Palin is a heartbeat from a 72 year old cancer surviver - then you deserve all the Katrinas and Iraqs and sinking economies that come along with that choice.
I'll take my chances with Obama and Joe Biden

493 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:44:22pm

re: #482 Celtic Templar

I still don't believe anyone believes anything coming out of the ex-former Soviet Union

Agreed...

494 Know Your Enemy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:44:29pm

re: #99 Occasional Reader

But then, LOTS of things remind me of "The Simpsons".

ONE OF US. ONE OF US.

495 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:44:47pm

re: #479 runrabbitrun

I'm sure that YOU have plenty of space for more books, don't you.... allow me to ship you a few dozen cratesful? ;-)

LOL! Well, sweetie, we started on our journey lugging around 50 boxes of books (and you know how much those boxes weigh!) and in the intervening years we've winnowed it down to about 20, by giving away and donating to libraries, etc. We keep ordering new ones so with each move we winnow again. Ask me again when we've settled down for good!

496 Age Of Freedom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:45:09pm

re: #449 WrathofG-d

Well, see, I wouldn't agree with him there either. I do not believe that all Muslims are bad, but I'm not going to fool myself into believing that that must then mean that most are peace-loving, non "fundemental", potential Terrorists.

One only need to attend an Anti-Israel rally to see how a "peaceful muslim" can quickly become a rage filled potential fundementalist. (ex: I stood in LA, across from well dressed, "everyday" muslims screaming at me to "go to the gas chamber", "hitler was right, but didn't do enough", "die dirty Jews", and that all of Israel would become muslim lands.

That's pretty much the most common behavior in their "protests".
I physically witnessed far worse than that, very frequently. And I really couldn't care less about their feelings before they burn down another embassy and start kidnapping western hostages. I'd much rather "insult" twenty trillion muslims than be pushed into filtering out PC BS, and have these evil monsters indulge on hate for their hourly dose.

497 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:45:22pm

re: #472 Kenneth

The New Republic article on Obama’s time as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago begins with him telling his mentor why he was quitting. The pay was too low and it didn’t work. “Obama told Kellman that he feared ending up destitute and unhappy like his dad. ‘He wanted to marry and have children, and to have a stable income,’ Kellman recalls.” Obama, to hear tell, stopped being a community organizer because he didn’t want to be a loser.

oh, whoopsie

498 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:45:29pm

re: #484 wolfie

I also think that Obama thinks he can win over center-right, right voters, but miscalculated that his minions would also be watching this interview.

He stated that the surge worked beyond his dreams - I'm thinking he actually may lose a few of the obamabots (they'll stay on their couches on election day). And I can't think of anyone watching O'Reilly, waiting for the RNC, would suddenly say - hey you know what Obama is the man! He really isn't the most liberal senator in the Senate.

Methinks Obama made a mistake.

499 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:45:36pm

re: #474 Silhouette

I imagine that he actually had no real understanding of what he essentially said. I think the real problem is that for a black man in Los Angeles, you only HEAR (for the most part) of Conservatives, and you do so only from left-leaning news sources, etc. In addition, the fact that in LA the only real time you would run into a conservative, unless you are one yourself, is if you are forced to. What I mean by this is that the really nice guys at your office who happen to be white, you don't get into what their politics are (Conservatives have a bit of a hidden status around here), but will only find out they are conservative/Republican if they do something that fits the profile of a Republican (ie: by being ignorant, sexist, or Racist).

In many ways it probably is not much different than the characterizing of Liberals in mostly Republican counties, cities, or states.

Like I said above, it is my intention, as a friend, to just simply show this guy that all Conservatives are NOT racists!

500 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:46:01pm

You guys are gonna love this one.

501 elcaro  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:46:26pm

I thought it was a fine "first part" of an interview... I think O'Reilly injected just enough tough questioning to not create a hit job that would cause Obama to walk out. O'Reilly talks too much and gives his own opinion too much, but I had no problems with the line of questioning. Obama answered fairly well, but some of his answers are far different now than they were in his stump speeches to the "moveon" crowds during the primaries.

502 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:46:36pm

re: #309 WrathofG-d

There are about a hundred of those left on the planet and Putin bags one.

503 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:47:04pm

re: #489 Killgore Trout

Hysterical hippies crying over fallen trees....
/Just ignore the a-hole's comments about abortion

That's so funny -- I almost post that a little while ago but from a different site...

504 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:47:14pm

re: #471 scottishbuzzsaw

We'd heard that...are they actually making any progress? (After NH, I think we'd go to Maine...lots of happy memories of Bar Harbor, Booth Bay Harbor, Machias, Acadia, etc.)

I guess that depends on how you define "progress." There have been a lot of changes in ten years, not all beneficial and not all especially conducive to "liberty". Odd tax structure has left some people that have any view of Mt. Monadnock at all with a "fair market value" of a cool million bucks on a 2- bedroom 50 year old ranch worth ~$125K if you don't consider the view. Schools are a mess and to "fix" things they passed a law that everyone has to stay in school until they are 18. No exceptions.

I love Maine too. We always spent summers there when I was growing up. I haven't been up Bar Harbor way in a while, but I was in the Wells-York-Kennebunk area a week or so ago. I was really surprised to find parking directly on the beach on Labor Day weekend - and beachfront hotel rooms going for $70 a night. I also hear that Lewiston and Portland have some big problems because of the huge numbers of Somalia refugees that have been resettled in those communities.

505 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:47:21pm

re: #492 GZLives

Creationism?
Sorry but that's where I draw the line.
I like the fact that the Republicans at least raise the issue of radical Islamists but I'm not about to vote for a creationist. Nope ... not me
If you vote knowing Palin is a heartbeat from a 72 year old cancer surviver - then you deserve all the Katrinas and Iraqs and sinking economies that come along with that choice.
I'll take my chances with Obama and Joe Biden

You = FAIL

506 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:47:39pm

re: #472 Kenneth

The New Republic article on Obama’s time as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago begins with him telling his mentor why he was quitting. The pay was too low and it didn’t work. “Obama told Kellman that he feared ending up destitute and unhappy like his dad. ‘He wanted to marry and have children, and to have a stable income,’ Kellman recalls.” Obama, to hear tell, stopped being a community organizer because he didn’t want to be a loser.

That actually raises him a couple of notches in my estimation.

507 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:48:17pm

re: #476 Dave the.....

"She is proud that her sister owns a gas station" Some elites find that below them.

Rich is bad when you're a Republican. You stole it or you are out-of-touch.

Poor is bad if you are a Republican. "How icky, low, and squalid. A gas station! Now we're electing white trash?!"

508 alegrias  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:48:33pm

re: #391 kynna

Anyone who wants to see what will happen to the military under Obama just needs to read/watch Black Hawk Down. That was Clinton's show and Obama is promising more of the same.

* * *
Was it not President Bush the elder who first sent "humanitarian" US military into Somalia or am I dreaming?

Because President Bush the first did NOT unleash our fierce military to remove Saddam Hussein conclusively, totally, unconditionally during the first Gulf War, I did not vote for him the second time.

Don't waste our troops' time & training on "community organizing" alone, is my credo. (That's what families do, normally.)

509 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:48:44pm

re: #500 kansas

You guys are gonna love this one.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

BUS!
Not the "same person" ....

510 wintercat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:48:46pm

re: #492 GZLives

I will take my chances with Palin's religious views over Islam and Sharia law...which I think will grow exponentially with Obama in the White House. Not because of the whole "he's a Muslim" thing. That is just not a concern. But the Reverend Wrong and Farrakhan and the rest of Obama's mentors like Islam a whole lot better than they like the way things are done in the Good Ol' USA.

511 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:49:25pm

re: #492 GZLives

I think we have a contender for approaching annefrance's downding record.

512 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:49:38pm

re: #492 GZLives

Sarcasm?

513 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:49:44pm

re: #492 GZLives

You better add a Sarc tag - soon.

514 Age Of Freedom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:49:49pm

re: #500 kansas

You guys are gonna love this one.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

We-Da-Futuah!
/Diddy

BTW, is that Mayor Diddy's fan?

515 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:49:49pm

re: #509 jwb7605

BUS!
Not the "same person" ....


That's not the Kwame Kilpatrick I knew.

516 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:49:51pm

re: #492 GZLives

Creationism?
Sorry but that's where I draw the line.
I like the fact that the Republicans at least raise the issue of radical Islamists but I'm not about to vote for a creationist. Nope ... not me
If you vote knowing Palin is a heartbeat from a 72 year old cancer surviver - then you deserve all the Katrinas and Iraqs and sinking economies that come along with that choice.
I'll take my chances with Obama and Joe Biden

That conflicts with what you said here, though...

517 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:49:56pm

re: #492 GZLives

Creationism?
Sorry but that's where I draw the line.
I like the fact that the Republicans at least raise the issue of radical Islamists but I'm not about to vote for a creationist. Nope ... not me
If you vote knowing Palin is a heartbeat from a 72 year old cancer surviver - then you deserve all the Katrinas and Iraqs and sinking economies that come along with that choice.
I'll take my chances with Obama and Joe Biden

Yeah, because that's how gubmint works ... The VP proclaims it and it shall be....

Nitwit.

518 Thanos  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:50:12pm

Strawman, it's already been shown that SP does not promote teaching ID in schools, she's not a shill for Discovery institute. Nice try.

519 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:50:32pm

The Obama proves once again that he is simply unfit to run this great country.Remember, this is the guy who stated that he NEVER has a doubt about his own judgement. Well we the people certainly do!

520 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:50:43pm

re: #409 WrathofG-d

like Putin was walking around randomly with a camera crew, through the forest with a dart gun on him....and then just coincidently happened to be there when a tiger attacked.

And of course, the dart instantly incapacitated the charging tiger; knocked it right out, in a second or two.

521 ladycatnip  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:50:45pm

#500 kansas

LOVED that video! Thanks for the link.

Could it be more obvious this man has zero judgment when it comes to associates, pastors, friends?

522 Jimash  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:50:54pm

re: #488 funky chicken

Not gonna gain him many votes up around Pittsburg either :-). How hard is it to say "NitNee" Lions? This prig hasn't ever heard of them ....

It's pretty well known. He DID attend two or three universities in the US didn't he ?
I don't even like football. I know from Nittany lions.

523 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:51:00pm

re: #512 Silhouette

Sarcasm?


*sniff sniff* I think I smell something else...

524 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:51:14pm

re: #492 GZLives

Creationism?
Sorry but that's where I draw the line.
I like the fact that the Republicans at least raise the issue of radical Islamists but I'm not about to vote for a creationist. Nope ... not me
If you vote knowing Palin is a heartbeat from a 72 year old cancer surviver - then you deserve all the Katrinas and Iraqs and sinking economies that come along with that choice.
I'll take my chances with Obama and Joe Biden

Perhaps you can help me understand what one's belief in creationism has to do with leading a country?

525 Age Of Freedom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:51:42pm

re: #489 Killgore Trout

Hysterical hippies crying over fallen trees....
/Just ignore the a-hole's comments about abortion

It's originally from eBaum's world.
These libs are of the mainstream.

526 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:51:47pm

re: #492 GZLives

Creationism?
Sorry but that's where I draw the line.
I like the fact that the Republicans at least raise the issue of radical Islamists but I'm not about to vote for a creationist. Nope ... not me
If you vote knowing Palin is a heartbeat from a 72 year old cancer surviver - then you deserve all the Katrinas and Iraqs and sinking economies that come along with that choice.
I'll take my chances with Obama and Joe Biden

Let Obama stop the hurricanes. Take your own chances with Obama, leave me out of it.

527 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:52:10pm

re: #483 goddessoftheclassroom

Funny enough, I'm teaching The Call of the Wild now!

This about sums up my thoughts on my avocation


We had some funny banter on the overnight thread this morning about the diff between Cats and Dogs..
Then i wrote something about Dogs.. and then posted if Goddess reads this i'm dead meat...it was funny or maybe it was the coffee..
But you need not go back and read it..
/ have a great weekend

528 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:52:16pm

re: #489 Killgore Trout

Hysterical hippies crying over fallen trees....
/Just ignore the a-hole's comments about abortion

OMG,
they need to be on couches seeking help abt. their bad childhoods from well trained professionals.
that is some serious madness.

529 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:52:31pm

re: #515 kansas

That's not the Kwame Kilpatrick I knew.

oh gawd. You knew Kwame?
FORGET OBAMA. LGF HAS CRIMINAL LINKS. PASS THE WORD.
/, ///

530 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:52:46pm

re: #516 wrenchwench

That conflicts with what you said here, though...


Dang, you're fast!

531 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:52:51pm

Whoopi must have hurried and done an update re: succeed.

Who let Whoopi Goldberg blog without an editor? In her Wow-O-Wow blog post titled "Sarah Palin Is a Very Dangerous Woman," she lobs a wild pitch about the Alaskan Independence Party kerfuffle: "I also thought that this idea of America first coming from her was kind of strange because she was one of the people who wanted to succeed from the United States. She was part of a campaign to succeed Alaska from the United States of America." Where’s the editor to say "Sorry, dear, don't you mean ‘secede’?"

Whoopi’s article concluded by suggesting Gov. Palin's speech reminded her of a German-American Nazi rally: "This girl is dangerous to me. This is a very dangerous woman, because I believe for her intents and purposes, she’s OK if everybody lives a certain way, that is to say, the way God ordained men and women to be. Well, already she’s breaking that because she’s the daddy. She’s going to run the country and the husband is going to take care of the kids. I just found the whole thing sad and very musty and very much like a Bund rally, but maybe that was just me."

532 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:53:03pm
533 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:53:06pm

HEartbeat away from someone with a 96 year old mother.

Want doesn't someone ask Prince Charles how that feels?

534 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:53:14pm

re: #495 scottishbuzzsaw

LOL! Well, sweetie, we started on our journey lugging around 50 boxes of books (and you know how much those boxes weigh!) and in the intervening years we've winnowed it down to about 20, by giving away and donating to libraries, etc. We keep ordering new ones so with each move we winnow again. Ask me again when we've settled down for good!

You donate books to libraries? That would be the last place I would donate a book. At least half of the books I buy for the kiddo (200 +/- a year) come from libraries. I have a precious, first edition signed Jungle Book that we found in the library discard pile!

535 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:53:15pm

re: #529 jwb7605

oh gawd. You knew Kwame?
FORGET OBAMA. LGF HAS CRIMINAL LINKS. PASS THE WORD.
/, ///

I was channeling Obama.

536 Dave the.....  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:53:16pm
re: #465 Dave the.....

Where do you get a transcript?

Just type in something line "Palin speach transcript" or "Palin speach text" into Google or Yahoo. But watch out for the hate sites.

537 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:53:18pm

re: #524 eschew_obfuscation

Perhaps you can help me understand what one's belief in creationism has to do with leading a country?

I would hazard to guess most of the Founding Fathers were creationists of some sort or another. They did all right.

538 J.S.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:53:25pm

re: #328 galloping granny

Exactly. Obama has a tendency (from what I've observed) to become invested in certain ideas (to have his ego wrapped up in it), and once this occurs, there's no disauding him otherwise. (So, for example, if Obama were to take some hard-line stance against Israel, there are certain foolish people who are convinced that they'd be able to moderate obama's views, to soften them...hmmm...I say, "That's not gonna happen." He doesn't soften positions, he doesn't moderate -- he persists on the same course regardless of the fallout -- it's too personal for him, and he can't transcend it. He can't look at the problem from a transcendent, objective, de-personalized manner, and do that which is best.)

Beck had on last night a "Obama 101" program. One of Beck's guests discussed what Obama did with respect to "reform" in Chicago...(Here's a snippet of that transcript:

DAVID FREDDOSO, AUTHOR, "THE CASE AGAINST BARACK OBAMA": The parallel is just fantastic between the two [Palin and Obama, js]. You have two different states, opposite parties, corrupt one-party-rule where people are self-dealing, helping their families get rich, putting cronies on the payroll; exact same situation in Chicago and Alaska.

In the case of Sarah Palin, there`s a very compelling story of how she went in there and basically fought against almost every major political player in her state; tried to get the state party chairman removed. Got and ticked off the oil and gas port. Primary the sitting governor, and beat him; ran a candidate actually just recently against Don Young in Alaska. That`s a really compelling story of reform.

In Chicago, Barack Obama has shown he will endorse a stuffed bear if Mayor Richard M. Daley tells him to. And he`s endorsed people who are a lot worse for Chicago than a stuffed bear would be. Just two years ago, he endorsed a man named Todd Stroger for Cook County board president, and this is maybe not the most important thing in the world, but it`s one of the most dramatic examples where liberals and conservatives came together, bridged party divides to try to clean up their city`s politics. They were tired of the corruption.

And Barack Obama worked against them. And it`s part of a much broader pattern that really characterizes his entire career. This example is so recent, and it`s so -- it`s such an incredible story.

It`s in the recent print version of "National Review" called "Soldier for Stroger" about how Barack Obama thwarted the efforts of reformers in his city of Chicago beginning by refusing to get behind the liberal reformer who almost won the primary election that year, nearly knocked out the machine boss of Cook County. And then in the end, when liberals and conservatives were coming behind the Republican in the general election, once again, Barack Obama came to the rescue of the machine. Came in, endorsed this man as a good progressive Democrat, his name is Todd Stroger.

And Stroger turned out to be a complete bum...and it's back to Chicago corruption as usual...that's all Thanks to Obama. (btw, also hear that Obama has drawn up an "enemies list" -- these are people Obama intends to "get" if ever he becomes Prez -- although I don't know if that's just an Internet rumor or true...(?) ..but it actually doesn't strike me as that absurd that Obama would be keeping track, making a list, etc.

539 turn  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:53:27pm

re: #500 kansas

You guys are gonna love this one.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Nice! Forwarding that link right now.

540 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:53:28pm
541 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:53:40pm

re: #496 Age Of Freedom

In a way I agree, but my concern is NOT over "insulting trillions of people" but instead the harm I know that can come from labeling and scapegoating an entire group of people.

Thus I am cautious about how I regard the Islamic Fundementalist/Terrorist situation.

542 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:54:06pm

re: #503 christheprofessor

Much better. I tried to find a version without the abortion angle but couldn't find it. Your link is much better.

543 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:54:20pm

re: #492 GZLives

Creationism?
Sorry but that's where I draw the line.
I like the fact that the Republicans at least raise the issue of radical Islamists but I'm not about to vote for a creationist. Nope ... not me
If you vote knowing Palin is a heartbeat from a 72 year old cancer surviver - then you deserve all the Katrinas and Iraqs and sinking economies that come along with that choice.
I'll take my chances with Obama and Joe Biden

GAZE

544 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:54:27pm

re: #492 GZLives

Creationism?
Sorry but that's where I draw the line.
[...] If you vote knowing Palin is a heartbeat from a 72 year old cancer surviver - then you deserve all the Katrinas

Creationism causes hurricanes?

This, I did not know.

545 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:54:28pm

re: #492 GZLives

Creationism?
Sorry but that's where I draw the line.
I like the fact that the Republicans at least raise the issue of radical Islamists but I'm not about to vote for a creationist. Nope ... not me
If you vote knowing Palin is a heartbeat from a 72 year old cancer surviver - then you deserve all the Katrinas and Iraqs and sinking economies that come along with that choice.
I'll take my chances with Obama and Joe Biden

'Cause, like, they're too smart to believe in anything but themselves.

You worry about putting Palin a heartbeat away, but are willing to put Obama, with even less experience, right on in.

With stellar logic like that, you must have gone to gummint schools.

546 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:54:42pm

re: #492 GZLives

Interesting. Looks like annefrancevichy has itself a sockpuppet.

547 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:54:51pm

re: #532 ploome hineni

you cannot defeat by reason, a belief that is not based on reason

Profound, and yet how do you defeat a belief not based on reason ...

548 alegrias  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:55:00pm

re: #397 daddyo

It seems most of you folks don't like O'Reilly, but has any other media person conducted a tougher harder-hitting interview of Obama?

At least O'Reilly got him to admit the Surge worked "beyond our wildest dreams".

* * *
Great point. Why pile on O'Reilly as if he "reports" to "us"?

Get your own top-rated talk show!

And dissing O'Reilly mirrors leftists' unhinged hatred of Fox News, to me at least.

I'm proud of Fox News for shaking things up and providing an outlet for dissenting views. Once upon a time, PBS was my main media news source.

549 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:55:01pm

re: #492 GZLives

Also conflicts with what you said here....

#108 GZLives 3/02/2007 1:03:22 pm PST
While I'm not doubting Obama's position vis a vis Israel, I am doubting Obama's validity as a legit candidate and not just being used as the means to dump Hillary and allow for the ascendancy of Al Gore which is really where Geffen and the rest of Hollywood want to go. Obama is merely the means to the ends with probably a promise of a high level cabinet position. But rest assure if David Geffen believes Hillary cannot win, he also knows Obama can't win. Geffen don't earn more then a billion dollars being naive.
550 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:55:14pm

re: #511 doppelganglander

I think we have a contender for approaching annefrance's downding record.

It was at -417 when last I checked...

551 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:55:17pm

re: #498 Celtic Templar

I also think that Obama thinks he can win over center-right, right voters, but miscalculated that his minions would also be watching this interview.

He stated that the surge worked beyond his dreams - I'm thinking he actually may lose a few of the obamabots (they'll stay on their couches on election day). And I can't think of anyone watching O'Reilly, waiting for the RNC, would suddenly say - hey you know what Obama is the man! He really isn't the most liberal senator in the Senate.

Methinks Obama made another mistake.

Fixed. I cannot think of a single word or action out of his mouth that has not been a mistake, since at least before he went on his World Tour.

552 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:55:30pm

Judgment!re: #500 kansas

You guys are gonna love this one.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Judgment!

553 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:55:58pm

re: #520 Occasional Reader

Exactly. See now I just might believe the story if they said that he had shot and killed the tiger with his personal sidearm. I could believe he carries a gun...but a tranqulizer dart gun? I don't think so!

554 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:56:00pm

re: #518 Thanos

Strawman, it's already been shown that SP does not promote teaching ID in schools, she's not a shill for Discovery institute. Nice try.

He may be one of those who have a real problem with Creationists even existing, or with them freely believing in a God-created universe even outside the science classroom.

555 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:56:00pm

re: #534 galloping granny

You donate books to libraries? That would be the last place I would donate a book. At least half of the books I buy for the kiddo (200 +/- a year) come from libraries. I have a precious, first edition signed Jungle Book that we found in the library discard pile!


May I send them to you? ;>)

556 Colin Nelson  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:56:31pm

#502 Actually Putin hit the cat with a tranquilizer dart after which he assisted in taking its vitals

557 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:56:42pm

Attended a casual business get together today. We had a blast winding up an old "small town" retired political official we know. Got the 80 year old guy loudly ticking off reasons the Obama was a zero. Too funny, a hippie chic walks by and gives him the thumbs up thinking he's promoting the lightworker.lmao.

558 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:56:45pm

re: #542 Killgore Trout

Much better. I tried to find a version without the abortion angle but couldn't find it. Your link is much better.

I'll have to check out yours -- I saw your "ignore the abortion" thing and thought I must have missed that part when I watched the one I linked to..

559 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:56:45pm

re: #540 ploome hineni

Not to worry. He tranquilized it. Or something.

560 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:57:22pm

re: #544 Occasional Reader


LOL. Exactly the thought I had when I read that......somehow it goes from creation (a hot button ticket here on LGF; to get attention of course) to Palin will destroy the world.

I think Mr. Holland's Opus was a great movie...don't you!?

561 kcladderman  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:58:01pm

re: #508 alegrias

* * *
Was it not President Bush the elder who first sent "humanitarian" US military into Somalia or am I dreaming?

Because President Bush the first did NOT unleash our fierce military to remove Saddam Hussein conclusively, totally, unconditionally during the first Gulf War, I did not vote for him the second time.

Don't waste our troops' time & training on "community organizing" alone, is my credo. (That's what families do, normally.)

This is how Somalia turned bad the US turn control over to the UN.


The Army began by assisting in relief operations in Somalia, but by December 1992 it was deeply engaged on the ground in Operation RESTORE HOPE in that chaotic African country. In the spring of the following year, the initial crisis of imminent starvation seemed to be over, and the U.S.-led Unified Task Force (UNITAF) turned over the mission to the United Nations, leaving only a small logistical, aviation, and quick reaction force behind to assist. The American public seemed to forget about Somalia. That sense of "mission accomplished" made the evens of 3-4 October 1993 more startling, as Americans reacted to the spectacle of dead U.S. soldiers being dragged through the streets by cheering Somali mobs-the very people Americans thought they had rescued from starvation.

562 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:58:03pm

re: #559 Cap'n DOC

Not to worry. He tranquilized it. Or something.

Still got the image for Pravda or Russia Today (the more updated version of Pravda)... Commies are all about imagery ... I was looking for the greek columns in the pic.

563 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:58:04pm

re: #555 scottishbuzzsaw

May I send them to you? ;>)

Yup.

564 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:58:10pm

re: #559 Cap'n DOC

Don;t get me wrong, I like to hunt, but the animals I hunt are as common as weeds.

565 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:58:17pm

re: #531 ciaospirit

This girl is dangerous to me.

Nice demotion from adulthood to child, there, Whoopi. Showing your stripes.

566 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:58:26pm

re: #526 kansas

Let Obama stop the hurricanes. Take your own chances with Obama, leave me out of it.

Well, he did promise that the oceans would stop rising upon his election, so I guess it's not unreasonable to assume he can stop the wind, unlike Monica, from blowing...

567 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:58:51pm

re: #500 kansas

You guys are gonna love this one.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

That's not the Kilpatrick I knew

568 Billy Hank  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:59:05pm

I maintain that Obama is the WAR candidate, (Wright, Ayers, and Rezko.) Imagine for moment what his cabinet would look like.

Let's just start with William Ayers as Secretary of Education. Of course, it is unlikely an unrepentant terrorist would be approved by a filibuster proof, Democrat controlled Senate out for revenge against the hated Republicans. Still, I would guarantee the eventual appointee will be a Bill Ayers ideological clone, willing to do everything to advance the agenda. [Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

Other fantasy picks in later posts.

Idle thought - Was any of Obama's community organizing service court ordered?

569 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:59:45pm

re: #489 Killgore Trout

Hysterical hippies crying over fallen trees....
/Just ignore the a-hole's comments about abortion

You can hear the wind cry "looooo-sers!"

570 Dave the.....  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 1:59:46pm

There's a picture out there of Palin holding what appears to be a dead rabbit (hunting)....she's maybe 15 years old. So different then the elites. It's actually a pretty good photo. I'll see if I can find where I saw it.

571 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:00:03pm

re: #546 Fenway_Nation

Interesting. Looks like annefrancevichy has itself a sockpuppet.

hmmm ... *grin* ... ya' think so?

572 Ben Hur  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:00:03pm
Want doesn't someone ask Prince Charles how that feels?

WTH language IS THAT?!?

Got to go hit the pipe.

BBL

573 alegrias  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:00:10pm

re: #424 Celtic Templar

Obama is using the Nittany Lions name in vain ... Oh man, heads will roll

/Lifetime Alumnus

****
There goes Pennsylvania's bitter folks!

574 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:00:34pm

re: #560 WrathofG-d

I think Mr. Holland's Opus was a great movie...don't you!?

Especially the part when Glenn Holland administers a JUDO CHOP! to the charging Siberian tiger, saving his music students from certain doom.

575 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:01:03pm

re: #492 GZLives

Creationism?
Sorry but that's where I draw the line.
I like the fact that the Republicans at least raise the issue of radical Islamists but I'm not about to vote for a creationist. Nope ... not me
If you vote knowing Palin is a heartbeat from a 72 year old cancer surviver - then you deserve all the Katrinas and Iraqs and sinking economies that come along with that choice.
I'll take my chances with Obama and Joe Biden

You must be trying to compete with annefrance.

Go piss up a rope, ya' commie punk.

576 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:01:11pm

re: #550 christheprofessor

It was at -417 when last I checked...


-417! Holy Cow.. I got dinged down a few times when i made a lame joke or two.. And it really hurt my feelings.. If 417 people downdinged me I'd probably make a noose and scratch my name into the wood..
Hoopster was here...
/you know what movie I'm talking about.

577 kansas  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:01:38pm

re: #571 pre-Boomer Marine brat

hmmm ... *grin* ... ya' think so?

I can't find what you all are referring to.

578 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:01:40pm

re: #536 Dave the.....

Just type in something line "Palin speach transcript" or "Palin speach text" into Google or Yahoo. But watch out for the hate sites.

But spell it SPEECH !
(Just in case goddess is napping!) :)

579 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:02:38pm

re: #538 J.S.

My hubby highly rec's this book. I have not had time to read it yet.

580 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:02:43pm

So I finally took a look at the fake Palin/Bikini pic now that it is splashed at FoxNews as part of a "7 lies about Palin" story.

[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

That pic should have been debunked immediately. That is a pellet rifle she is holding. I have one and use it on rabbits and squirrels on my property.

Sarah Palin would never show off a pellet rifle.

581 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:03:18pm

re: #573 alegrias

That's a Kerry moment - remember Green Bay and "Lambert" field

582 talon_262  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:04:17pm

re: #576 HoosierHoops

-417! Holy Cow.. I got dinged down a few times when i made a lame joke or two.. And it really hurt my feelings.. If 417 people downdinged me I'd probably make a noose and scratch my name into the wood..
Hoopster was here...
/you know what movie I'm talking about.

Love The Shawshank Redemption...one of Stephen King's better stories, IMO.

583 sparrowlake  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:04:33pm

re: #430 WrathofG-d

Gee, if Lieberman had gotten that kind of support from U.S. Jews in 2000, the Dems would have won and there would be no global warming.

584 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:04:49pm

re: #568 Billy Hank

I maintain that Obama is the WAR candidate, (Wright, Ayers, and Rezko.) Imagine for moment what his cabinet would look like.

Let's just start with William Ayers as Secretary of Education. Of course, it is unlikely an unrepentant terrorist would be approved by a filibuster proof, Democrat controlled Senate out for revenge against the hated Republicans. Still, I would guarantee the eventual appointee will be a Bill Ayers ideological clone, willing to do everything to advance the agenda. [Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

Other fantasy picks in later posts.

Idle thought - Was any of Obama's community organizing service court ordered?

I thought Ayers would be in Homeland [in]Security, so he'd know where to put his bombs.

585 Age Of Freedom  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:04:53pm

re: #541 WrathofG-d

In a way I agree, but my concern is NOT over "insulting trillions of people" but instead the harm I know that can come from labeling and scapegoating an entire group of people.

Thus I am cautious about how I regard the Islamic Fundementalist/Terrorist situation.

Understood.

586 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:05:11pm

re: #581 Celtic Templar

Manny Ortez remembers it all too well.

587 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:05:37pm

re: #548 alegrias

re: #397 daddyo

It seems most of you folks don't like O'Reilly, but has any other media person conducted a tougher harder-hitting interview of Obama?

At least O'Reilly got him to admit the Surge worked "beyond our wildest dreams".


* * *
Great point. Why pile on O'Reilly as if he "reports" to "us"?

Get your own top-rated talk show!

And dissing O'Reilly mirrors leftists' unhinged hatred of Fox News, to me at least.

I'm proud of Fox News for shaking things up and providing an outlet for dissenting views. Once upon a time, PBS was my main media news source.

Conceded: No one I have seen has conducted a tougher, harder hitting interview.
Not conceded: the interview could be accurately described "tough" and "hard hitting"
Let's hope Brit Hume gets a shot.
Failing that, Megan Kelly (I think it was) ain't looking bad lately.
Heck, lately I'd settle for Juan Williams.
Dennis Miller as much as volunteered.

ROVE! (to pre-empt the lizards)

588 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:05:42pm

re: #580 karmic_inquisitor

So I finally took a look at the fake Palin/Bikini pic now that it is splashed at FoxNews as part of a "7 lies about Palin" story.

[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

That pic should have been debunked immediately. That is a pellet rifle she is holding. I have one and use it on rabbits and squirrels on my property.

Sarah Palin would never show off a pellet rifle.

This is not Sarah Palin. The original picture of somebody else is on flikr. I posted the link to the original picture a couple of days back.

589 ladycatnip  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:06:49pm

#492 GZlives

Creationism?
Sorry but that's where I draw the line.
I like the fact that the Republicans at least raise the issue of radical Islamists but I'm not about to vote for a creationist. Nope ... not me
If you vote knowing Palin is a heartbeat from a 72 year old cancer surviver - then you deserve all the Katrinas and Iraqs and sinking economies that come along with that choice.
I'll take my chances with Obama and Joe Biden

It doesn't get any more hateful and meanspirited than this, folks. GZlives would've fit right in with the Salem witch trials; innocent men and women were the scapegoat of any catastrophe and condemned to death by puritanical clergy, whose judgmental and intolerant behavior sounds a lot like the left. You'd wish financial destruction, death and property damage because we vote for M/C? That's just pure evil.

590 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:07:10pm

re: #575 MandyManners

You must be trying to compete with annefrance.

Go piss up a rope, ya' commie punk.

Please. Maybe it's not a punk.

591 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:07:31pm

re: #584 Kosh's Shadow

I thought Ayers would be in Homeland [in]Security, so he'd know where to put his bombs.

In the big picture, weren't his bombs part of an agenda to overthrow the government of the US?

If his man Obama (Ayers' words) is sitting in the White House, Ayers will have succeeded in taking over the government, and may not need additional bombs. The question then is, what will he do with it/us?

592 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:07:36pm

re: #489 Killgore Trout

Hysterical hippies crying over fallen trees....
/Just ignore the a-hole's comments about abortion

Is that for real? cuckoo...cuckoo...

593 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:07:54pm

re: #560 WrathofG-d

I no longer use 'Mr Holland's Opus' since I saw this about that schmuck ultra-lefty, Dreyfuss.

/Any friend of Hussein's is no friend of mine.

594 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:08:02pm

I tried reading DU, stopped for 2 reasons:

1. Bad site design
2. I felt dirty

595 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:08:14pm

re: #572 Ben Hur

Got to go hit the pipe.

Thank goodness! We have crackheads here at LGF! We're politically legimitate! Take THAT, P. Diddy.

596 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:08:23pm

*sigh* The mastery of annefrance has ruined my enjoyment of such things. Reading garden variety trolling will no longer thrill me the way it used too.
/

597 alegrias  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:08:29pm

re: #522 Jimash

It's pretty well known. He DID attend two or three universities in the US didn't he ?
I don't even like football. I know from Nittany lions.

* * *
Any candidate with a crazy schedule can slip up & forget details, or have a slip of the lip. These folks are slammed in so many ways.

Plus if you're half-American or multilingual, you can also be forgiven for not being 100% with the sports program.

I have always forgiven & forgotten President Bush's endearing linguistic mishaps which may be genetic in his case, given his father's bloopers.

598 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:08:59pm

re: #590 jwb7605

Please. Maybe it's not a punk.

I LOLed

599 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:09:38pm

re: #516 wrenchwench

That conflicts with what you said here, though...

Cerberus, the three-headed troll -- one looking right, one looking left, one inserted firmly in posterior orifice

600 wolfie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:10:31pm

re: #581 Celtic Templar

That's a Kerry moment - remember Green Bay and "Lambert" field

I sure hope the GOP in PA runs with that!
That will play well with the snobbery he showed vs "bitter" Pennsylvanians in the primaries.

601 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:10:35pm

re: #576 HoosierHoops

-417! Holy Cow.. I got dinged down a few times when i made a lame joke or two.. And it really hurt my feelings.. If 417 people downdinged me I'd probably make a noose and scratch my name into the wood..
Hoopster was here...
/you know what movie I'm talking about.

Actually, she got down-dinged more than 417 times, because that's the net, and there were a few up-dings (I think about 10, before the list got too big to show all the dingers). Plus, a few of the updings were supposed to be down-dings, which actually is the equivalent of two down-dings on the net total...

602 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:10:57pm

re: #597 alegrias

Screw that ... It's Nittany Lions, if you're going to pander, pander well

603 tfc3rid  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:12:40pm

re: #586 Fenway_Nation

Manny Ortez remembers it all too well.

Which one is in LA now, Manny Ortez or David Ramirez?

/Kerry...

604 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:13:42pm

Thing got slow.

I guess "it's five o'clock somewhere."

605 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:13:46pm
606 alegrias  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:13:58pm

re: #561 kcladderman

* * *
Thank you for that research. Bush the elder was too desperate to be seen as "kinder, gentler" with our military, instead of VICTORIOUS for real.

Unconditional Surrender.
US wins, Saddam H. loses.

US wins,
Somali thugs lose.

THAT's what I want in my commander in Chief, the will to WIN for the USA.

Sarah Palin & McCain give off the Olympic Gold champions vibe of going for the gold, for the victory.

607 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:14:29pm

re: #597 alegrias

Nope....it's almost like the VIP throwing out the ceremonial first pitch at Fenway in a Red Sox/Blue Jays game and shouting "Go Yankees!"

608 yochanan  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:15:10pm

the contrast between Juan Williams and the skelitor is interesting Juan is just as much a liberal but he comes off as a very thoughtful and principled one the skelitor has gotten more slizie as this goes on.

609 Karagush  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:15:23pm

re: #305 Celtic Templar

also if this a mentally disabled child it may just be thay considered it easier to read and spell. I think they wanted him to be able to spell his name someday, myself. It was a parent's kindness not to saddle him with a tricky name.

610 tfc3rid  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:16:30pm

re: #608 yochanan

the contrast between Juan Williams and the skelitor is interesting Juan is just as much a liberal but he comes off as a very thoughtful and principled one the skelitor has gotten more slizie as this goes on.

Colmes will stop at nothing to get Obama in the White House... He will say anything...

611 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:16:33pm

re: #609 Karagush

Why not Bob then? Damn evil Republicans

/

612 alegrias  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:16:41pm

re: #587 jwb7605

Conceded: No one I have seen has conducted a tougher, harder hitting interview.
Not conceded: the interview could be accurately described "tough" and "hard hitting"
Let's hope Brit Hume gets a shot.
Failing that, Megan Kelly (I think it was) ain't looking bad lately.
Heck, lately I'd settle for Juan Williams.
Dennis Miller as much as volunteered.

ROVE! (to pre-empt the lizards)

* * *
Sadly,
Brit Hume is either leaving or cutting back, I recall hearing.

613 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:16:49pm

re: #607 Fenway_Nation

Nope....it's almost like the VIP throwing out the ceremonial first pitch at Fenway in a Red Sox/Blue Jays game and shouting "Go Yankees!"

I had to upding that.
Reluctantly, since somebody indicated "You can now view my ding".
I don't even have my webcam turned on ... Charles is good.

614 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:17:34pm

re: #605 pre-Boomer Marine brat

annefrance #363, on the Post-Palin Wrapup thread

GZlives #492 (upthread) for your viewing enjoyment

GZlives only has 28 down-dings so far.
/slow day

615 Celtic Templar  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:17:56pm

re: #607 Fenway_Nation

Or gawking at the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders at a Philadelphia Eagles game ...

/not quite

616 infidel Alan  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:19:14pm

re: #595 Occasional Reader

Thank goodness! We have crackheads here at LGF! We're politically legimitate! Take THAT, P. Diddy.

Crack is for wusses. I smoke meth.

617 sparrowlake  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:19:28pm

re: #492 GZLives

Creationism?
Sorry but that's where I draw the line.
I like the fact that the Republicans at least raise the issue of radical Islamists but I'm not about to vote for a creationist. Nope ... not me
If you vote knowing Palin is a heartbeat from a 72 year old cancer surviver - then you deserve all the Katrinas and Iraqs and sinking economies that come along with that choice.
I'll take my chances with Obama and Joe Biden

Check your prescription.

618 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:19:55pm

re: #492 GZLives

Creationism?
Sorry but that's where I draw the line.
I like the fact that the Republicans at least raise the issue of radical Islamists but I'm not about to vote for a creationist. Nope ... not me
If you vote knowing Palin is a heartbeat from a 72 year old cancer surviver - then you deserve all the Katrinas and Iraqs and sinking economies that come along with that choice.
I'll take my chances with Obama and Joe Biden

You do that, dipshit. I'll take the reformer anyday of the week over the Machine candidate.

619 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:20:10pm

re: #596 Slumbering Behemoth

This annfrance?

Click on the # to see the wondrous event!

Take a look at the count! Anyone who wants to become a part of LGF history for participating in a class in higher mathematics? Here is your chance! ;)

620 alegrias  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:20:47pm

re: #607 Fenway_Nation

Nope....it's almost like the VIP throwing out the ceremonial first pitch at Fenway in a Red Sox/Blue Jays game and shouting "Go Yankees!"

* * *

You're a tough crowd!

Me, I root for Real Madrid...Viva!

621 Intifan  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:22:21pm
622 kcladderman  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:22:37pm

re: #606 alegrias

Oh I do agree about Gulf War 1 no doubt.
McCain/Palin is nothing but good news for the good guys and bad news for the bad guys.

623 yochanan  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:22:52pm

re: #492 GZLives

Creationism?
Sorry but that's where I draw the line.
I like the fact that the Republicans at least raise the issue of radical Islamists but I'm not about to vote for a creationist. Nope ... not me
If you vote knowing Palin is a heartbeat from a 72 year old cancer surviver - then you deserve all the Katrinas and Iraqs and sinking economies that come along with that choice.
I'll take my chances with Obama and Joe Biden

i for one don't care about creationism I DO CARE ABOUT OBAMA & COMPANIES DEFEATISM, HIS CONNECTION TO ANTI ZIONIST ANTI SEMITISM, HIS CALLIING IRAN A TINY COUNTRY ET AL.

624 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:23:01pm

re: #619 NY Nana

That's the one. Epic trollage.

625 leftover54  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:23:51pm

re: #35 NYC_MIke

No. OReilly hedging his bet - if Obama wins ol no spin Bill doesn't want to be locked out - wants to have access to a Pres. Obam...
G_d, I can't type - my fingers won't allow me to type
Pres Ob..... there it goes again !

Anyhow, this is why Bill will only go so far.

It would be nice if someone would do an in depth expose of the Chicago chapter of "Public Allies" - O'bama & Michelle's re education camp. One of their goals is to have a civilian army at least as powerful as the US Military.
Isn't that comforting ? Combine that with silent partner W. Ayers (spit) and you have quite a combo. eh ? And since Ayers is the junior O'bamas mentor I suspect it is Ayers behind the whole thing - his vision of how to recruit, brainwash and then unleash his nightmare of an army across the length and breadth of our great country.
Sound paranoid ? Read Ayers' interview 9/11/01, look at his history - mix with O'bamas "community organizing"
background and being the founding member(s) of the Chicago branch of P.A. (not for profit/tax payer funded
no less) and if you don't come to the same conclusion, I have some nice swamp land to sell you...Oh, not to mention - no expose by the MSM. That should be a dead give away right there. I know I should be thinking if this is so bad the FBI would surly be on top of it. I wouldn't know if they are or not. If the FBI would respond with
"there's nothing to it" I would drop the subject. But no one with any credibility is even asking the question. Personally, I think it is a legitimate question. Investigations have begun with less "smoke" then this.
Ayers (spit) alone deserves being tailed 24/7. I don't want to discredit LGF with a paranoid rant but seriously, doesn't anyone think that a few questions should at least be asked an answered prior to the election ?
Since 9/11, to my mind, the boundaries of what "is possible" have been forever expanded. Sounds like a bad 007 flick, I know. So would have 9/11 on 9/10.

Ayers

Obama Wright

626 Reluctant Democrat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:24:00pm

Iran is not part of the terrorism network!?

Stupendously stupid.

627 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:24:40pm

re: #619 NY Nana

This annfrance?

Click on the # to see the wondrous event!

Take a look at the count! Anyone who wants to become a part of LGF history for participating in a class in higher mathematics? Here is your chance! ;)

Hi, Nana ... a question.
I haven't unlimbered SockPuppy against annfrance -- sticking with my primal identity. What does Lizard Ethics 101 say on the subject? Am I right?

628 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:25:30pm

re: #624 Slumbering Behemoth

That's the one. Epic trollage.

Why don't the epic trolls respond?

629 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:25:54pm

re: #627 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hi, Nana ... a question.
I haven't unlimbered SockPuppy against annfrance -- sticking with my primal identity. What does Lizard Ethics 101 say on the subject? Am I right?

Lao Stinky say...

Use sockie to add dings against dipshit. It's OK.

630 kcladderman  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:26:01pm

re: #627 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Isn't the number one rule of sock puppets is to never mention sock puppets?
/

631 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:26:47pm

re: #624 Slumbering Behemoth

I looked this morning, and was incredulous! I do not think that Charles ever anticipated that many dings down on just one post could ever happen. Sadly, we can no longer see who dung her up.

/I wonder if there is a prize for this.

632 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:27:11pm

re: #628 Sparkizzy

Why don't the epic trolls respond?

They're proudly counting the whip-marks on their backs. It's an affirmation of their Cosmic Victimhood.

633 alegrias  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:27:15pm

re: #626 Reluctant Democrat

Iran is not part of the terrorism network!?

Stupendously stupid.

* * *
Classic Carter Syndrome.

634 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:27:59pm

re: #628 Sparkizzy

Why don't the epic trolls respond?

That's a big part of trolling. Toss the bomb, jump back, and watch the fallout.

635 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:28:26pm

re: #624 Slumbering Behemoth

Our commenting and dinging them down only encourages them more. (and makes us look moronic)

I think best to just GAZE

636 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:29:09pm
If you vote knowing Palin is a heartbeat from a 72 year old cancer surviver

WTF is up with the "cancer survivor" stuff? That's the first words that pop out of a LLL's mouth (venom usually precedes the phrase, but they're not words).

cancer survivor
two words.
I are one.

I am now pissed off enough to outlive that hole, just to spite him/her/it.

637 Sparkizzy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:30:03pm

G2G, Good Shabbos!

638 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:30:04pm

re: #630 kcladderman

Isn't the number one rule of sock puppets is to never mention sock puppets?
/

GASP!
MOI? ... Having a sock PUPPET?! ... Never.
I have pre-Boomer SockPuppy, the terror of all of goddess' cowardly cats.

/heh heh heh ... waiting for retaliation

639 x-wing  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:30:15pm

re: #619 NY Nana

Ding -419 now.

640 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:31:35pm

re: #627 pre-Boomer Marine brat

... a question.
I haven't unlimbered SockPuppy against annfrance -- sticking with my primal identity. What does Lizard Ethics 101 say on the subject? Am I right?

I was wondering about doing it, too, with my sockpuppet, but just didn't feel right about it. What that POS wrote just didn't merit our sweet little innocent sockpuppets being brought into the anger we all felt, if anger is a strong enough term.

IMHO? You are right.

641 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:32:13pm

re: #629 Honorary Yooper

Lao Stinky say...

Use sockie to add dings against dipshit. It's OK.

In that case, I shall let the little guy have a bite of gamey buttocks in the next day or two.

642 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:32:15pm

re: #631 NY Nana

I think the handful of up-dungs (up-dings?) were mistakes. Mis-dings are common, and would expect several for a post that has over 400 dings.

re: #635 WrathofG-d


Our commenting and dinging them down only encourages them more. (and makes us look moronic)

I think best to just GAZE

I agree and disagree at the same time. Some are best ignored, but I also do enjoy a witty or humorous quip in response. Besides, fighting trolls can be fun, and who doesn't love a good, old fashioned "piss up a rope" challenge.

643 sparrowlake  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:32:49pm

Feeling dinged out? Sing along with Chuck.

644 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:34:35pm

re: #640 NY Nana

I was wondering about doing it, too, with my sockpuppet, but just didn't feel right about it. What that POS wrote just didn't merit our sweet little innocent sockpuppets being brought into the anger we all felt, if anger is a strong enough term.

IMHO? You are right.

Well, you counter what Honorary Yooper just said. I bow to the senior sockmaster. Guess I'll keep him in the kennel (unless we need a vote or two to get over 500).

645 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:34:52pm

re: #641 pre-Boomer Marine brat

In that case, I shall let the little guy have a bite of gamey buttocks in the next day or two.

Just remember that Charles set a maximum of 6 or 7 days for dinging comments. Some jerks were going back and dinging down comments that were years old.

646 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:36:00pm

re: #642 Slumbering Behemoth

Responding with an actual substantive smack down by a few individuals is surely acceptable, as far as I'm concerned (as if I really have a say eitherway), but the "ding downs" and personal attacks, and thread swarm of the individual, is (a) immature, (b) moronic, and (c) only gives the shmuck the attention it is craving.

jus my 3c

647 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:37:03pm
648 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:37:19pm

re: #640 NY Nana

I was wondering about doing it, too, with my sockpuppet, but just didn't feel right about it. What that POS wrote just didn't merit our sweet little innocent sockpuppets being brought into the anger we all felt, if anger is a strong enough term.

IMHO? You are right.

Well, I went ahead and let my one, single sock add a ding to annefrance. I figured, what the heck, it couldn't hurt. After all, everyone has dinged annefrance down so far, including the Lizard King himself.

I say we set a record on that one. :-)

649 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:38:05pm

re: #645 Honorary Yooper

Just remember that Charles set a maximum of 6 or 7 days for dinging comments. Some jerks were going back and dinging down comments that were years old.

Paleo-dinging?

650 Padre  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:38:31pm

re: #597 alegrias

* * *
Any candidate with a crazy schedule can slip up & forget details, or have a slip of the lip. These folks are slammed in so many ways.

Plus if you're half-American or multilingual, you can also be forgiven for not being 100% with the sports program.

I have always forgiven & forgotten President Bush's endearing linguistic mishaps which may be genetic in his case, given his father's bloopers.

I agree. Let he who does not say "furmiliar" or "comfterble" throw a stone at Bush's nucular.

651 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:38:55pm

re: #645 Honorary Yooper

Just remember that Charles set a maximum of 6 or 7 days for dinging comments. Some jerks were going back and dinging down comments that were years old.

Yes, am keeping track of that. See my #644. Nana is my spiritual guru in the realm of humorous sockpuppetry. (She hit me with hers once, inspiring my SockPuppy to use against goddess.)

652 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:39:01pm

re: #550 christheprofessor

It was at -417 when last I checked...

....und I hope vee are recording zee names of thoze zat up-dinged zis annefrance person.........now, what shall vee do about Moose und Squirrel?

/yeah, Palin, moose, I know...............

653 leftover54  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:39:07pm

oooops, came out wrong:

       Ayers


 O'bama     Wright


    Public Allies

/fixed

654 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:39:49pm

re: #649 christheprofessor

Paleo-dinging?

O.K.....so who are the Neo-dingers? (The EVIL Joooooos?)

655 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:40:01pm

re: #645 Honorary Yooper

Just remember that Charles set a maximum of 6 or 7 days for dinging comments. Some jerks were going back and dinging down comments that were years old.

They were going on archaeological dings?

656 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:40:10pm
657 GeeWiz  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:40:32pm

Sorry, I'm late to thread and for once I haven't read it all. I made sure that I missed O'Reilly's interview with BHO since I've learned (here) that Bill knew about this appearance by BHO since the appointment was made by his producers several weeks ago. All the while, he castigated BHO for being afraid of appearing on "The Factor". The producers had to agree to BHO's appearance on the night of McCain's acceptance speech. Bill O. has revealed himself to be as much as a media whore as those he skewers on a regular basis. Hey Bill, I hope the Kool-Aid tastes good.

658 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:41:20pm

re: #655 christheprofessor

They were going on archaeological dings?

You can really shovel it out, can't you.

659 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:41:34pm

re: #639 x-wing

Mazel tov! ;)

660 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:41:44pm

re: #652 IslandLibertarian

....und I hope vee are recording zee names of thoze zat up-dinged zis annefrance person.........now, what shall vee do about Moose und Squirrel?

/yeah, Palin, moose, I know...............

I saw the names of a few before the list got long, and I'm fairly confident they were mouse-slips intended to be down-dings...

661 sparrowlake  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:42:17pm

I think group dinging is illegal in Saudi Arabia.

662 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:42:24pm

re: #646 WrathofG-d

I agree, you'll get no argument from me there. Though I must confess that I have at times been given to immature and moronic behavior.

/the best part about sinking to someone else's level is that you can always raise back up to yours
/s

663 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:42:33pm

re: #658 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You can really shovel it out, can't you.

Like a mattress-bound prostitute....

/back-ho ;)

664 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:43:24pm

re: #654 eschew_obfuscation

O.K.....so who are the Neo-dingers? (The EVIL Joooooos?)

Heh. We have met the neo-dingers, and they are us.

665 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:43:58pm

re: #660 christheprofessor

I saw the names of a few before the list got long, and I'm fairly confident they were mouse-slips intended to be down-dings...

I know that at least three were. BlueCanuck voted minus. His sock screwed up. *snicker* *chortle*

666 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:44:06pm

re: #642 Slumbering Behemoth

Someone did apologise on the thread.

Ha! Since I have dinged Charles down at least twice, in error? I may hold a record, too!

667 sparrowlake  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:44:59pm

If you ding a moonbat does that make you a dingbat?

668 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:46:05pm

re: #666 NY Nana

I've mis-dinged many times. Those little buttons are too tiny and close together for my fat fingers.

669 sparrowlake  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:46:39pm

re: #645 Honorary Yooper

Just remember that Charles set a maximum of 6 or 7 days for dinging comments. Some jerks were going back and dinging down comments that were years old.

Thanks, I've diarized it.

670 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:46:49pm

Let he who is without ding throw the first cluebat!

671 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:46:56pm

re: #661 sparrowlake

Damn. I cannot read that post without ROTFL...the one tiny problem is that I sneezed (allergies) and bit my tongue while reading and LOL at the same time!

672 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:47:24pm

re: #667 sparrowlake

If you ding a moonbat does that make you a dingbat?

"Oh Archie!"

673 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:48:00pm

When I was a little bitty boy
Our Charles bought me a cute little toy
Silver bells hangin' on the page
she told me it was my ding a ling

My ding a ling, my ding a ling
I want to play with my ding a ling
My ding a ling, my ding a ling
I want to play with my ding a ling

And then a troll took me to Grammer School
But I stopped all in the vestibule
Every time that troll would sing
catched me playin' with my ding a ling

Once a moby was climbing the garden wall
they slipped and had a terrible fall
they fell so hard I heard bells ring
but clicked on to my ding a ling

This here post it ain't so sad
the cutest little song you ever had
those of you who will not ding
You must be playin' with your own ding a ling
My ding a ling Your ding a ling, your ding a ling
We saw you playin' with your ding a ling
My ding a ling everybody sing
I want to play with my ding a ling

674 sparrowlake  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:48:05pm

Do they have honor-dingings on Muslim blogs?

675 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:49:44pm

re: #668 Slumbering Behemoth

IIRC, Stevie Ray and I were discussing mis-dinging on a thead, as we both have done it, but I won, as I got Charles multiple times....we would love to have the opportunity that we have in reporting a post...to say yes or no before it is final.

676 Lynn B.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:49:50pm

re: #395 wolfie

You're whipping me around, LB!
Made me feel better re one post, then hit me w/ that one!

Israel and the US have to get their act together.
They have to get past leftist idiocy.

Sorry, Wolfie. I totally agree, of course. Peres, unfortunately, is an icon ... in more ways than one. I'm told that he's a wonderful, good-hearted man. But as Wrath said earlier (in different words), he's a screaming moonbat flakeazoid who seems to live in a fantasy utopia where everyone would get along fine if they just held hands and sang givepeaceachancekoombaya. He has the standing of a founder and for that reason alone commands (and deserves some) respect. Hard for me to muster, but there you are.

677 Clutch  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:50:09pm

A song for the Chosen One:

Did you ever know that you're a zero?
A loser headed for ob-scurity?
You only appeal to burned out freaks and zeroes,
You are the wind between my cheeks...

678 jorline  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:52:17pm

re: #674 sparrowlake

Do they have honor-dingings on Muslim blogs?

Yes...and they suicide-dings for those that want to self destruct. They don't use it because there's no collateral damage and no bonus virgins.

Good afternoon lizards.

679 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:53:08pm

re: #677 Clutch

You are the wind between my cheeks...

DAMMIT, Clutch, come over here and clean off my monitor and keyboard!
Loved that!

680 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:53:21pm

Can we discuss my numerous links over the past 3 days now, that have since been ignored?

(little kid, jumping up and down behind taller people screaming listen to me, listen to me...)

681 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:53:46pm

re: #678 jorline

Yes...and they suicide-dings for those that want to self destruct. They don't use it because there's no collateral damage and no bonus virgins.

Good afternoon lizards.

Hi there. This one's nearly passe.

682 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:54:25pm

re: #651 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Sure. Blame a Jew! ;)

683 jorline  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:55:14pm

re: #681 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hi there. This one's nearly passe.

Hey Boomer...did I miss anything this afternoon?

684 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:55:25pm

re: #680 WrathofG-d

Can we discuss my numerous links over the past 3 days now, that have since been ignored?

(little kid, jumping up and down behind taller people screaming listen to me, listen to me...)

Was wanting to ask you a question several days ago, after your return, but that thread was really busy. Got a moment now?

685 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:55:27pm

re: #678 jorline

Excellent entrance!

686 sparrowlake  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:55:41pm

Ding me,
Ding me,
They oughtta take a mouse and zing me,
Way up on the flattest rock,
Oh Lizards won't ya spare my sock.

(apologies to Roger Miller, RIP)

687 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:56:44pm

re: #684 pre-Boomer Marine brat

sure, let's go!

688 jorline  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:57:02pm

re: #685 NY Nana

Excellent entrance!

Thank you Nana...how are you this afternoon?

689 jorline  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:58:09pm

Are we moby and troll free today?

690 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:58:25pm

re: #683 jorline

Hey Boomer...did I miss anything this afternoon?

There was a minor hammer-fest upthread -- GZlives #492.

annefrance on the Post-Palin Wrapup thread is somewhere close to -420

691 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:58:28pm

re: #673 HoosierHoops

ROTFLMAO! Saved for posterity.

692 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 2:59:32pm

re: #683 jorline

Hey Boomer...did I miss anything this afternoon?


Hi Jorline..
annefrance is still being down dinged.
she is falling faster than a rock off a cliff
I
I
I
*/

693 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:01:36pm
694 sparrowlake  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:01:54pm

re: #671 NY Nana

Damn. I cannot read that post without ROTFL...the one tiny problem is that I sneezed (allergies) and bit my tongue while reading and LOL at the same time!

Sorry Bubbie, I'll try not to be so funny. LOL.

695 Lynn B.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:05:40pm

re: #492 GZLives

If you're serious ... whoa!

And if that was a pathetic attempt to parody the anti-ID lizards who have posted on that topic in the past ... double whoa.

696 jorline  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:06:24pm

re: #690 pre-Boomer Marine brat

There was a minor hammer-fest upthread -- GZlives #492.

annefrance on the Post-Palin Wrapup thread is somewhere close to -420

Just gave GZlives a tap with Maxwell's silver hammer, but I bet he doesn't catch annefrance...lol

697 Sol Roth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:06:25pm

re: #437 wintercat

I am not willing to put it to the test. For the past 50 years the extreme left have been quietly working toward their goal of the destruction of the capitalist system we have in this country and replacing it with a socialistic/communistic model. Inch by inch we have learned to accept judges ruling from the bench, criminals having more rights than victims, outrageous taxation, quotas, etc. Most painful of all (IMO) is that people have become afraid to express their opinions for fear of being labeled a racist, a mean person, a Nazi, an Oreo, a Tom, a fascist etc. Little by little we have given up our rights because we don't want to be seen as insensitive.

I believe that if Obama gets in the extreme left will know that they won't get another chance and they will move with all their might to open voting to whomever drops by, open our borders to whomever wants in, and open our wallets to the breaking point. And let me say that I am all for LEGAL immigration as long as the immigrants want to work, speak English, and pursue the American (capitalist) dream.

However, if Obama wins, America will be subject to the whims of the UN and the World Court. Once that happens we will never turn the tide back. America will be changed forever.

The Collectivists are losing so much ground in Europe, that we are seeing desperation moves here in the U.S.A.

You are in the Ten Ring with your observations.

698 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:06:50pm

re: #687 WrathofG-d

sure, let's go!

re: Jerusalem.

There's a cave or burial crypt on the Mount of Olives, supposedly very close to the Chapel of the Ascension. It is variously described as the burial place for:

1. a hebrew prophetess named Hulda,
2. a Christian saint named Pelagia by Christians, and
3. Rabia al-Adawiya, one of the earliest Sufi Muslim saints.

I've tried to find direct reference to it on the Web, but haven't. It only seems to be mentioned in conjuction with the Chapel of the Ascension. (The gatekeeper there also has the key to the crypt.)

Any ideas? Any sources you know of?

699 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:07:19pm

re: #688 jorline

We are trying to get the humidity to go down, and scare Hanna away....this is what is expected, and we are making preparations, as we are on the coast.

The NJ lizards will be at the worst risk.

/Bet you're not having as much fun!

700 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:08:40pm

re: #698 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Forgive my PIMF, forgot to capitalize Hebrew.
RATS!

701 sparrowlake  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:08:57pm

re: #695 Lynn B.

If you're serious ... whoa!
And if that was a pathetic attempt to parody the anti-ID lizards who have posted on that topic in the past ... double whoa.

I'll see your two whoas and raise you a FOAD.

702 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:08:59pm

re: #694 sparrowlake

It's OK! Better to laugh...and you really, really were funny.

703 jorline  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:12:45pm

re: #692 HoosierHoops

Hi Jorline..
annefrance is still being down dinged.
she is falling faster than a rock off a cliff
I
I
I
*/

LOL...HH...nice post at #673. Dancing with Mrs. Hoopster tonight?

704 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:13:27pm

re: #698 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Are you trying to learn more about it or are you trying to go?
Eitherway,the first thing I would do is advise you to check out this website, [Link: www.goisrael.com...] maybe you will get phone numbers etc., for people that can help you.

Second, from my experience at the Mt. of Olives I would guess that anything there is controlled by the Christian churches that are there, and thus if it is connected to Christianity it is probably not stand alone (got to get those tourist dollars/yen/etc., you see).

In so far that it is connected to all three faiths mentioned above, my guess is that in that area it would be controlled by the Muslims. (they dont' tend to like to share). I wouldn't at all know how to get around to seeing those.

This site didn't ring any bells for me, so I couldn't help you out with a name etc. I'll do some web searching and let you know if I have any better luck than you did.

705 DaddyG  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:14:36pm

re: #624 Slumbering Behemoth

That's the one. Epic trollage.

Troll Epic

706 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:17:51pm

re: #698 pre-Boomer Marine brat

maybe I can save you some time. Click Here!

707 Piglet-U93  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:18:43pm

re: #677 Clutch

A song for the Chosen One:

Did you ever know that you're a zero?
A loser headed for ob-scurity?
You only appeal to burned out freaks and zeroes,
You are the wind between my cheeks...

New slogan: "Zero or Hero?"

708 DaddyG  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:20:19pm

Once I was a blogger
typed a lot
till that carpal tunnel thing
Now my sluggish keyboard's lost its zing
Buddy can you spare a ding?

709 jorline  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:20:32pm

re: #699 NY Nana

We are trying to get the humidity to go down, and scare Hanna away....this is what is expected, and we are making preparations, as we are on the coast.

The NJ lizards will be at the worst risk.

/Bet you're not having as much fun!

Prayers out to you and the other lizards on the right coast. I live seven miles from the gulf coast and dealt with Emily a few weeks ago. Y'all my be dodging several hurricanes over the next few days.

I'm worried about reine...no ones heard from her since Gustav hit Louisiana.

710 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:20:56pm

re: #707 Piglet-U93

Zero the Hero?

711 jorline  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:23:08pm

re: #699 NY Nana

We are trying to get the humidity to go down, and scare Hanna away....this is what is expected, and we are making preparations, as we are on the coast.

The NJ lizards will be at the worst risk.

/Bet you're not having as much fun!

Hey...Obama's in PA. Have O and Biden give one of their long winded speeches along the coast...should be enough hot air to steer Hanna away.

712 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:23:37pm

re: #704 WrathofG-d

Are you trying to learn more about it or are you trying to go?
Eitherway,the first thing I would do is advise you to check out this website, [Link: www.goisrael.com...] maybe you will get phone numbers etc., for people that can help you.

Second, from my experience at the Mt. of Olives I would guess that anything there is controlled by the Christian churches that are there, and thus if it is connected to Christianity it is probably not stand alone (got to get those tourist dollars/yen/etc., you see).

In so far that it is connected to all three faiths mentioned above, my guess is that in that area it would be controlled by the Muslims. (they dont' tend to like to share). I wouldn't at all know how to get around to seeing those.

This site didn't ring any bells for me, so I couldn't help you out with a name etc. I'll do some web searching and let you know if I have any better luck than you did.

It's a VERY obscure site.

I'd like to find a photo of it, or at least a physical description. "Crypt" with a locked door is all I can find. That, and it was probably once a cave.

It is owned by the same Muslim group which owns the Chapel of the Ascension.

I've done a little bit of looking around on goisrael, but haven't really crawled through it.

My interest is in Rabia al-Adawiya, who was about as "un-Islamist" as a Muslim could be in the Eighth Century. She may not in fact be buried there. That's what I'm trying to confirm, or disprove.

713 Jimash  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:24:27pm

re: #699 NY Nana

The NJ lizards will be at the worst risk.


Hey Nana. Battening down the hatches in NJ.

714 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:24:55pm

re: #708 DaddyG

Once I was a blogger
typed a lot
till that carpal tunnel thing
Now my sluggish keyboard's lost its zing
Buddy can you spare a ding?

*BARF*
/meant as high compliment

715 Piglet-U93  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:26:17pm

re: #710 Slumbering Behemoth

Zero the Hero?

Democrat or Republican
Zero or Hero

Get It!

716 DaddyG  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:29:36pm

re: #714 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*BARF*
/meant as high compliment

Thank you! Thank you! I'll be here all week... ;-)

717 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:30:15pm

re: #706 WrathofG-d

maybe I can save you some time. Click Here!

That gives me "Huldah", a different spelling and a different approach to searching.

718 jorline  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:33:48pm

Annefrance is rebounding...she just went from -419 to -418...maybe she's a strong finisher.

//

719 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:33:52pm

re: #712 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Wiki states that Huldah refers to an anacronim used for the gates seen from the Mt. of Olives that are now sealed. Refering to "mouse" or "hole" to describe what they look like.

Here is more wiki on hulda

720 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:34:01pm

re: #706 WrathofG-d

maybe I can save you some time. Click Here!

HOT DAMN, the alternate spelling lead me to a bibliographical reference to a journal article on the exact site. Now I've got to identify the journal.

THANKS!

721 funky chicken  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:35:34pm

re: #391 kynna

Anyone who wants to see what will happen to the military under Obama just needs to read/watch Black Hawk Down. That was Clinton's show and Obama is promising more of the same.

AMEN. Every time some person tries to say it's OK to vote for Obama because it's not like he can bring the troops home from Iraq anyway, I answer that yeah, he'll just leave them there and refuse to provide them with proper armaments, just like Clinton did in Somalia.

722 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:38:26pm

re: #720 pre-Boomer Marine brat

HOT DAMN, the alternate spelling lead me to a bibliographical reference to a journal article on the exact site. Now I've got to identify the journal.

THANKS!

Wrath, the journal is a publication of the Israel Antiquities Authority.

THANK YOU!

723 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:40:11pm

re: #698 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: Jerusalem.

There's a cave or burial crypt on the Mount of Olives, supposedly very close to the Chapel of the Ascension. It is variously described as the burial place for:

1. a hebrew prophetess named Hulda,
2. a Christian saint named Pelagia by Christians, and
3. Rabia al-Adawiya, one of the earliest Sufi Muslim saints.

I've tried to find direct reference to it on the Web, but haven't. It only seems to be mentioned in conjuction with the Chapel of the Ascension. (The gatekeeper there also has the key to the crypt.)

Any ideas? Any sources you know of?

Try this link: http://www.bahai.org/dir/bwc

The Baha'i temple image at the top right is on top of Mount Carmel, and the Baha'i faith is extremely friendly with Israel. What you're referring to is apparently "down the street" from the World Center.
They might (probably will) respond to an inquiry ... I know they do a lot of research, and have a lot of archive information, lore, etc.

If that doesn't help, contact me off line, and I'll see what I can do about getting some references that could help.

Don't worry about being "recruited". They would love to have you, but you need to actively declare you want to join up. You cannot donate money unless you're a member, and no solicitations will come by e-mail or anything like that.

I'm a bit disappointed that people only think of "3 major religions" in Israel, though. So is my Jewish friend, whose sister lives "down the street toward the Ocean" from that temple.

724 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:41:16pm

re: #716 DaddyG

Thank you! Thank you! I'll be here all week... ;-)

TGIF
/

725 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:43:23pm

re: #723 jwb7605

THANK YOU!

726 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:44:20pm

re: #725 pre-Boomer Marine brat

THANK YOU!

my pleasure.

727 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:45:50pm

re: #719 WrathofG-d

Wiki states that Huldah refers to an anacronim used for the gates seen from the Mt. of Olives that are now sealed. Refering to "mouse" or "hole" to describe what they look like.

Here is more wiki on hulda

Wrath,

The Israel Antiquities Authority journal your suggestion led me to is available from a distributor in Indiana. Bless your heart. THANKS!

728 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:46:34pm

re: #726 jwb7605

my pleasure.

Between you and Wrath, a plethora of leads to pursue!

729 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:47:22pm

re: #726 jwb7605

my pleasure.

By the way, hang on here for a bit of Hancock trivia.

730 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:53:06pm

re: #723 jwb7605

Ba'hai is a joke. Its religous marxism.

731 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:54:33pm

re: #726 jwb7605

1965/66, part of the Tonkin Gulf Yatch Club, we often had birds in the air for 20+ hours per day, for weeks at a stretch. Meant we spent a lot of time at speed, getting wind across the deck.

The outtakes which vented gunk from the JP-5 tanks were arranged poorly for those conditions. Sea flow along the hull would swirl remnants of JP-5 into the intake for the evaporator. The result was fresh water with a strong aroma of jet fuel. I spent a lot of time drinking bottled chocolate milk from the little store on the aft mess deck. We had a running joke about not smoking near the water fountain in the passageway.

732 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:56:03pm

re: #730 WrathofG-d

Ba'hai is a joke. Its religous marxism.

I don't know a lot about it. Seems I've read that it developed relatively recently, as such things go. Correct?

733 J.S.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 3:59:50pm

re: #723 jwb7605

I believe Pre Boomer Marine Brat was referring to the "Mount of Olives" -- and that's in so-called "East Jerusalem". Fodors does not recommend overnight stays in this area (Fodors also notes that pickpockets are rife in the Mount of Olives area)...Also that "Chapel of the Ascension" has been turned into a mosque...(there are also different spellings for the name of the Sufi saint...depending on how the Arabic is transliterated.)

734 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:01:52pm

Pretty f*cking rich for 0bama to complain the Iraqis haven't taken responsibility for their country when this man can't even take responsibility for not supporting the surge that's created the ability for the Iraqis to actually take that responsibility.

He also looks very uncomfortable in that chair.

735 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:04:35pm

And what a liar! "Nobody's talked about an invasion of Pakistan".

Uh- actually- you did just that 0bama.

736 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:05:00pm

re: #709 jorline

Prayers out to you and the other lizards on the right coast. I live seven miles from the gulf coast and dealt with Emily a few weeks ago. Y'all my be dodging several hurricanes over the next few days.

I'm worried about reine...no ones heard from her since Gustav hit Louisiana.

Ouch re Reine....I had no idea. I hope she can post soon. There are still a lot of power outages. Scary, and yet another tropical storm or worse may hit the area next week.

And you were in the area...thank G-d you and yours are OK.

Boston, and possibly the Maritimes may get this storm, and yes, there are at least 2 more lined up. A lizard posted to me last week re Hurricane Nana on the list this year.

/I will go on strike and refuse to do my thing.

Right now it looks so calm here..the worst of the storm is due tomorrow evening. What gets me is that with all the computers, etc., hurricane tracking planes, that can track for the Government, sticking a finger out the window seems more accurate.

My daughter and son in law bought us a wooden weather stick from Maine when they were vacationing a few years ago. We have it on the balcony. Right now it says fair weather. If the stick curls? I will worry! ;)

BBL.....

737 J.S.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:06:02pm

re: #732 pre-Boomer Marine brat

recent? (well, don't tell that to the Bahia's -- they claim their leader pre-dates Islam -- that's why they're persecuted in Iran -- they have to live in hiding during certain "revivals" of strict interpretations of Islam in Iran...and Muslim "fundamentalists" hate/despise the teachings of the Bahia's..)

738 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:06:08pm

re: #733 J.S.

re: #723 jwb7605

I believe Pre Boomer Marine Brat was referring to the "Mount of Olives" -- and that's in so-called "East Jerusalem". Fodors does not recommend overnight stays in this area (Fodors also notes that pickpockets are rife in the Mount of Olives area)...Also that "Chapel of the Ascension" has been turned into a mosque...(there are also different spellings for the name of the Sufi saint...depending on how the Arabic is transliterated.)

Yeah, I don't plan on going there. This is armchair research.

739 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:07:17pm

re: #737 J.S.

recent? (well, don't tell that to the Bahia's -- they claim their leader pre-dates Islam -- that's why they're persecuted in Iran -- they have to live in hiding during certain "revivals" of strict interpretations of Islam in Iran...and Muslim "fundamentalists" hate/despise the teachings of the Bahia's..)

Shows how little I know about it. Thanks.

740 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:07:34pm

re: #718 jorline

/Maybe she has a sockpuppet...or someone miss-dinged. I just knew I shouldn't take the job of being her agent. But would I listen?!?!?!

BBL!

741 GZLives  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:09:05pm

wrenchwench
You say it conflicts with what i said here a year ago?
Not at all ...


I am indeed a Democrat who turned but I will never vote for anyone believing in Creationism and anyone who does might as well put the burka on now since they are no better then the Jihadi ..

Excuse me but I'd prefer those who believe in talking reptiles - like Creationists - to stay far far away from anything that threatens millions of lives.

And unless I'm mistaken, Little Green Footballs completely agrees

742 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:15:58pm

re: #741 GZLives

wrenchwench
You say it conflicts with what i said here a year ago?
Not at all ...


I am indeed a Democrat who turned but I will never vote for anyone believing in Creationism and anyone who does might as well put the burka on now since they are no better then the Jihadi ..

Excuse me but I'd prefer those who believe in talking reptiles - like Creationists - to stay far far away from anything that threatens millions of lives.

And unless I'm mistaken, Little Green Footballs completely agrees

You ARE mistaken. Seriously so, but perhaps not as you anticipated.
See "Palin Has Not Pushed Creationism as Governor", posted on Wednesday

743 Ezekiel2517  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:20:58pm

I need to dig up the exact quote, but at least O'Reilly did observe in hindsight about Obama that he never admits when he's made a mistake.

This comment was directly related to the question about the success of the surge.

744 Colonel Panik  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:22:12pm

Crap. I meant to downding #492 and accidentally gave it an upding.

745 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:23:55pm

re: #732 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What I got from its brochure during the tour is this. Everyone is equal, all religions are correct, its a continuous path...all should be same in wealth, poverty, love, and hate. Bai'hi is just another step on the path following Moses, Jesus, Mohammad,..... and there will be another prophet to finally come and fix things.

The place is darn nice looking though, very "spiritual" (in the hippy sense). Yes it is very new. I think their "prophet" just died in teh 1950s or something.

746 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:24:52pm

re: #745 WrathofG-d

What I got from its brochure during the tour is this. Everyone is equal, all religions are correct, its a continuous path...all should be same in wealth, poverty, love, and hate. Bai'hi is just another step on the path following Moses, Jesus, Mohammad,..... and there will be another prophet to finally come and fix things.

The place is darn nice looking though, very "spiritual" (in the hippy sense). Yes it is very new. I think their "prophet" just died in teh 1950s or something.

Thanks, and did you see my posts regarding the journal article?

747 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:26:21pm

re: #744 Colonel Panik

Crap. I meant to downding #492 and accidentally gave it an upding.

And I've aleady expended my dingy thing. Otherwise, I'd help.

748 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:27:06pm
749 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:27:39pm

re: #746 pre-Boomer Marine brat

yes. I am thrilled that I was able to help.

You should go there though. The view from the Mt. of Olives is incredable. The cemetary there is really historically amazing.

But more importantly that any of that.....I wouldn't, and you shouldn't, allow anybody (muslim) to make you afraid to walk around Israel!

750 J.S.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:28:15pm

re: #739 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I should clarify this -- from a Western perspective (from a Western understanding of how "history" works), you are correct by stating that this religion is "recent." (The founder of the Bahai -- Baha-u-llah -- was born in 1817 and died in 1892). But from the Bahia perspective (it's like Islam) the "religion" subsumes all previous religious leaders in the monotheistic, Abraham tradition...thus, they claim (like Islam) their religion was there from the beginning...(does that make any sense? oh well...)

751 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:29:57pm

re: #749 WrathofG-d

yes. I am thrilled that I was able to help.

You should go there though. The view from the Mt. of Olives is incredable. The cemetary there is really historically amazing.

But more importantly that any of that.....I wouldn't, and you shouldn't, allow anybody (muslim) to make you afraid to walk around Israel!

I'd love to see Israel safe and secure.

Incidentally, I just ordered that issue of the journal from the place in Indiana. Looks to be a 10+ page scholarly article on the tomb.

752 callahan23  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:30:03pm

re: #744 Colonel Panik

Crap. I meant to downding #492 and accidentally gave it an upding.

re: #747 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hi I stepped in and gave it a nice downer.

753 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:30:07pm

re: #750 J.S.

So what you are saying is that pretty much like everyone else they all just really want to be Jews.

(said in the tradition of "My Big Fat Greek Wedding")

754 Billy Hank  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:30:11pm

re: #584 Kosh's Shadow

I think that the mature Ayers now views planting bombs as the work of expendable foot soldiers. He would more like to impose his Stalinist views on the education system. That would be a real legacy.

Still, for nostalgia's sake, he might accept a tour at DHS.

755 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:33:16pm

re: #750 J.S.

I should clarify this -- from a Western perspective (from a Western understanding of how "history" works), you are correct by stating that this religion is "recent." (The founder of the Bahai -- Baha-u-llah -- was born in 1817 and died in 1892). But from the Bahia perspective (it's like Islam) the "religion" subsumes all previous religious leaders in the monotheistic, Abraham tradition...thus, they claim (like Islam) their religion was there from the beginning...(does that make any sense? oh well...)

Yes, it makes perfect sense. Your precis was like what I'd read. In and of itself, a "recent vintage" doesn't negate whatever truth a religion might contain. If that was the case, Abraham would have been properly turned out into the desert. heh.

756 J.S.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:33:59pm

re: #753 WrathofG-d

yes. it's just that they eventually go on an extended (and unfortunate) detour...(becoming the perpetual wanderers in the desert metaphorically speaking...)

757 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:36:12pm

re: #733 J.S.

re: #723 jwb7605

I believe Pre Boomer Marine Brat was referring to the "Mount of Olives" -- and that's in so-called "East Jerusalem". Fodors does not recommend overnight stays in this area (Fodors also notes that pickpockets are rife in the Mount of Olives area)...Also that "Chapel of the Ascension" has been turned into a mosque...(there are also different spellings for the name of the Sufi saint...depending on how the Arabic is transliterated.)

I Google.mapped "Mt Olive, Israel", and the map displayed was literally "down the street". If you're right, my apologies for sending him off on a tangent.

as for this:

re: #737 J.S.
recent? (well, don't tell that to the Bahia's -- they claim their leader pre-dates Islam -- that's why they're persecuted in Iran -- they have to live in hiding during certain "revivals" of strict interpretations of Islam in Iran...and Muslim "fundamentalists" hate/despise the teachings of the Bahia's..)

Shows how little I know about it. Thanks.


Few/little details, yes, but I salute you for knowing that much.
The Baha'i faith does not pre-date Islam. There is an (amusing? entertaining? ...) legend/story/pick-your-term that Marconi changed the original radio message to "What God hath wrought" from something else ... that's apparently exactly when the first 'declaration' was done.

The "revivals" you refer to are called "assemblies". They are held every 19 days, as ("we" as you probably can guess) do not have formal churches, and we hold them in (usually rotating) members homes.
My first one was referred to as "the dead chicken ceremony".
Didn't know what to expect ... we had devotions, then fried chicken pot luck. I also discovered that Persian food is really good.
Still haven't mastered (any) Farsi. There are two (I think) Iranians here in my small town that managed to get out while the getting was good. Neither of them is now able to contact friends or relatives, since communications are monitored and they don't want their friends killed on account of a small error.
Iraq ... Saddam was doing the same thing, and had Bahai's almost wiped out. We don't get much news from there, though, even to this day.


#730 WrathofG-d

Ba'hai is a joke. Its religous marxism.


Whatever.
Let's don't go there. Or at least, please travel alone.

758 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:37:38pm

re: #748 ploome hineni

rofl

you have to be kidding! Just what Israel needs

and it is Israel that is entremely friendly to the Bahai, who are tomented in Iran and ather muslim countries as apostates

I had to read that twice, but I think you have an excellent point.

759 zonie  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:39:51pm

Illegal Obama Campaign Activity at ISNA Convention

Courtesy of Dave Gaubatz, this post now has a same-day UPDATE at the bottom.

05 SEPTEMBER 2008: Patrick Poole reports in todays entry of the Central Ohioans Against Terrorism blog that Barack Hussein Obama's presidential campaign has conducted illegal electioneering which occured at the national convention of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) held in Colombus, Ohio last week. Make sure you read the above link in full, then come back and finish reading the rest of this report.

Quoting Patrick's report:

"The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) is a 501c3 tax exempt organization. As is true for any 501c3 entity, especially a religious organization, ISNA is prohibited from hosting or supporting any partisan political activity. And yet at their national convention here in Columbus last week, ISNA hosted an Obama campaign booth in their exhibitors area as this picture taken on Friday night shows:"

In additional to violating the letter of the law regarding political activites of a 501C3 T.E.O. , and "the law" in this regard is most certainly something that Barack Hussein Obama is intimately familiar with, he should also be intimately familiar with the Islamic Society of North America's status as a federal unindicted co-conspiritor stemming from numerous exhibits entered as evidence last year during the Holy Land Foundation trial.

Moreover, those federal government evidences intimately linked the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) with the Muslim Brotherhood, also known in Islamic circles as the al-Muslimuun al-Ikhwan (or just Ikhwan or MB for short), and also established financial links between ISNA, the North American Islamic Trust (NAIT), the Holy Land Foundation and the Palestinian terrorist organization HAMAS.

760 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:42:21pm

re: #757 jwb7605

Look, you can believe whatever you want. I just don't have much room for Ba'hai from what I learned. It seemed like marxist, humanist, universalist, hogwash to me. I respect your right to believe it however, and not be persecuted for it. No individual offense was meant, I just don't go for that sort of thing.

761 callahan23  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:44:27pm

re: #757 jwb7605

... I also discovered that Persian food is really good.

So true.

Still haven't mastered (any) Farsi.

As I remember from my Iranian colleagues at college Farsi for 'Good-Bye'
is 'Khodahafes'.

/ If I was of any help. ;-)

762 zeir  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:45:03pm

Hulda's grave on the Mount of Olives is, traditionally, the grave of Huldas the prophetess. The Gate of Huldah on the Temple mount has been called a "mousehole" as it is on the foot of the wall, but that is not the grave.Hulda the the prophetess was very important, see Kings II 22:14, in identifying the lost book of the Law.

763 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:45:42pm

re: #741 GZLives

Where's Ahab when you need him?

764 zeir  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:46:48pm

I think the great Israeli cartographer, Ze'ev Vilnay, discusses Hulda's grave. He certainly does in his Hebrew writings...

765 zeir  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:48:27pm

The chapel of the ascension was almost always a mosque, I think. The spot was seized sometime during Saladin's era for a mosque, as opposed to all of the churches on the mountain.

766 J.S.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:52:23pm

re: #757 jwb7605

I like Persian music...(When I was speaking of "revival" -- I was thinking of those times when Islam gets into a resurgence (?) -- that is, the religious leaders start demanding stricter observance, they have a crack down, no tolerance for any deviations (the strictness seems to wax and wane) -- and it's during these stricter times (no tolerance for Islamic deviation, etc.) when it seems the Bahia face the upswing in persecution...get the purges...)

767 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:54:03pm

re: #755 pre-Boomer Marine brat


re: #750 J.S.

I should clarify this -- from a Western perspective (from a Western understanding of how "history" works), you are correct by stating that this religion is "recent." (The founder of the Bahai -- Baha-u-llah -- was born in 1817 and died in 1892). But from the Bahia perspective (it's like Islam) the "religion" subsumes all previous religious leaders in the monotheistic, Abraham tradition...thus, they claim (like Islam) their religion was there from the beginning...(does that make any sense? oh well...)


Yes, it makes perfect sense. Your precis was like what I'd read. In and of itself, a "recent vintage" doesn't negate whatever truth a religion might contain. If that was the case, Abraham would have been properly turned out into the desert. heh.

The issue is over "progressive revelation", probably.
The "religion" was there from the beginning in the sense that God has never changed. The premise is that the same God has been worshiped from the dawn of time, regardless of what you think his name is. "There is but one God ..." -- that part is true. Bahai's will not tolerate dogma, much. We probably have some, and fail to see it, even at this early point.
Adam, Moses, Jesus (and others) were, in fact, exactly who they said they were. If you don't buy into that, you don't get to join. Most people don't want to join. Jesus was in fact the Son of God, did die on the cross for all mankind, etc. He was the "high point" of his era, also. I believe we are entering the "new era", and the position (where we are now) in that era is roughly equivalent to somebody like Moses, who basically issued "the ten commandments".
Progressive revelation means that us humans get issued new facts and clues when, and not before, God thinks we are ready to absorb the information (when we can use it without destroying ourselves). Cave men with knowledge about splitting the atom, etc -- that sort of thing. These facts and clues are dispensed by a Prophet.
In plain fact, after the facts have been dispensed, we (mankind) seem to have done a less than stellar job obeying and implementing. I include myself in that last part.

768 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:55:34pm

re: #760 WrathofG-d

Look, you can believe whatever you want. I just don't have much room for Ba'hai from what I learned. It seemed like marxist, humanist, universalist, hogwash to me. I respect your right to believe it however, and not be persecuted for it. No individual offense was meant, I just don't go for that sort of thing.

none taken. "religious wars" make me want to puke, and I understand I may have a "somewhat unconventional" thought process.

769 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:57:25pm

re: #766 J.S.

I like Persian music...(When I was speaking of "revival" -- I was thinking of those times when Islam gets into a resurgence (?) -- that is, the religious leaders start demanding stricter observance, they have a crack down, no tolerance for any deviations (the strictness seems to wax and wane) -- and it's during these stricter times (no tolerance for Islamic deviation, etc.) when it seems the Bahia face the upswing in persecution...get the purges...)

Ya think maybe we're getting close?
/

770 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:57:36pm

before I go celebrate the HOLY Shabbas, I leave you with a "AOL just doesn't get it" moment

Dunkin Donuts
The ad: Rachael Ray drinks a Dunkin Donuts Cool Latte in a brief online ad. She is wearing a black-and-white fringed paisley scarf.
The complaint: Conservative pundit Michelle Malkin likens the scarf to the keffiyeh, a traditional Muslim headdress worn by some Palestinian extremists, calling Ray to task for promoting terrorism.
The verdict: While the paisley scarf was not a keffiyeh, and in fact was chosen by Ray's stylist, Dunkin Donuts pulls the ad.
More on Dunkin' Donuts Ad

771 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 4:59:01pm
772 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 5:01:53pm

re: #767 jwb7605

The issue is over "progressive revelation", probably.
The "religion" was there from the beginning in the sense that God has never changed. The premise is that the same God has been worshiped from the dawn of time, regardless of what you think his name is. "There is but one God ..." -- that part is true. Bahai's will not tolerate dogma, much. We probably have some, and fail to see it, even at this early point.
Adam, Moses, Jesus (and others) were, in fact, exactly who they said they were. If you don't buy into that, you don't get to join. Most people don't want to join. Jesus was in fact the Son of God, did die on the cross for all mankind, etc. He was the "high point" of his era, also. I believe we are entering the "new era", and the position (where we are now) in that era is roughly equivalent to somebody like Moses, who basically issued "the ten commandments".
Progressive revelation means that us humans get issued new facts and clues when, and not before, God thinks we are ready to absorb the information (when we can use it without destroying ourselves). Cave men with knowledge about splitting the atom, etc -- that sort of thing. These facts and clues are dispensed by a Prophet.
In plain fact, after the facts have been dispensed, we (mankind) seem to have done a less than stellar job obeying and implementing. I include myself in that last part.

In a fast pass through that, I think it fairly well dovetails with my ... er ... current belief. (God's had his work cut out with me too.. Still working on me.)

773 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 5:02:53pm

re: #768 jwb7605


Look, you seem like a nice person, and in hindsight I realize that I was way off base. Although I don't personally like the Ba'hai Religion I shouldnt' have gone about it the way I did. I have nothing against you, or any followers of Ba'hai, and really shouldn't have had the "attack mode" I did.

So, I appologize for the rude, and agressive manner I went about that. It was really uncalled for, unecessary, and you did absolutly NOTHING to deserve it. I only know Ba'hai to be nice people, and the place there in Haifa is really pretty. We don't agree religiously, but I didn't have to try to make that a personal issue or fight.

Again, sorry!

Now its time to go worship the 1 true G-d!

Have a good one LGF.

774 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 5:03:19pm

re: #770 WrathofG-d

Have a good Shabbas, Wrath!

775 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 5:09:15pm

re: #772 pre-Boomer Marine brat

In a fast pass through that, I think it fairly well dovetails with my ... er ... current belief. (God's had his work cut out with me too.. Still working on me.)

I can only imagine God's view of a set of stagnant beliefs is similar to Dr. Phil: "so how's that workin' out for you?"

I have flip-flopped on more than one occasion. And when I find out that there is an error in my way (read: I'm still stupid), I intend to flip-flop again.

776 jwb7605  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 5:13:43pm

OK. If there's anybody left, you'll have to kick me around on the "Human Genome is a Battlefield" thread.

777 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 5:16:48pm

re: #776 jwb7605

OK. If there's anybody left, you'll have to kick me around on the "Human Genome is a Battlefield" thread.

Going BACK over there to find you. Loved your immediately-previous.

778 GZLives  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 5:33:33pm

Wow, I just saw this here

"It doesn't get any more hateful and meanspirited than this, folks. GZlives would've fit right in with the Salem witch trials; innocent men and women were the scapegoat of any catastrophe and condemned to death by puritanical clergy, whose judgmental and intolerant behavior sounds a lot like the left. You'd wish financial destruction, death and property damage because we vote for M/C? That's just pure evil."

yeah I'm mean spirited because I;m concerned about how someone would make decisions given they believe in talking reptiles .. and you think I'm radical or extreme?

lololol

My friend, I'm fine with Sarah Palin believing in anything she wants, but if she believes in Creationism, I do not want her near anything that impacts on me and a heartbeat away from a 72 year old cancer survivor in a job that has more pressure 24/7 then any job on the planet is a bit too risky for me. Excuse me but I'll pass.

779 Lynn B.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 5:38:33pm

re: #778 GZLives

My friend, I'm fine with Sarah Palin believing in anything she wants, but if she believes in Creationism, I do not want her near anything that impacts on me and a heartbeat away from a 72 year old cancer survivor in a job that has more pressure 24/7 then any job on the planet is a bit too risky for me. Excuse me but I'll pass.

So you have a religious litmus test for the Executive branch. How ... tolerant ... of you.

Where you got the idea that "Little Green Footballs completely agrees" with that attitude is anyone's guess. But you are, indeed, quite mistaken.

780 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 5:39:26pm

re: #778 GZLives

Sarah Palin has shown with her veto on a bill in Alaska banning benefits to same sex couples working for the state that she will uphold the law even when it goes against her personal beliefs. I trust that her advisers in the White House would be just as good, if not better, in advising her that creationism/ID science will not pass Constitutional muster and she'd veto any bill trying to foist pseudo-science off on American children because that's the type of leader she's already shown herself to be- one that will uphold the Constitution over personal beliefs. If that's the kind of person you don't want a heartbeat away from the Presidency, I feel sad for you.

781 GZLives  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 5:51:47pm

#623 who posted

"i for one don't care about creationism I DO CARE ABOUT OBAMA & COMPANIES DEFEATISM, HIS CONNECTION TO ANTI ZIONIST ANTI SEMITISM, HIS CALLIING IRAN A TINY COUNTRY ET AL."

Me too and I post about it everyday in Jerusalem Post, Ynet and even Haaretz. I post about on Huffington Post and Drudge Retort and as you probably know, I am bashed constantly for it. If you Google GZLIves, you'd see it yourself so don't even try to bash me on that score.

I'm more a defender of Israel and Jews and more vocal about Jihadis and the threat of Islamism then most here. I'm in the trenches on all the leftie sites fighting this fight. I liked that unlike the Dems the GOP spoke about Islamist terror, but sorry, no Creationists. This is just insulting to anyone's intelligence.

The minute McCain gets the note from the Saudis and Exxon, Israel will get tossed under the bus.

Look, Lieberman is on a mission to hurt the Democrats. OK, I get it. Democrats deserve it after how they treated him. So he's on McCain's bus to endlessly poke the Dems and he also knows his career has ended as a result unless McCain wins but that's unlikely.

Meanwhile McCain has no great loyalty to Israel.

Biden's kid is married to a Jewish girl. Biden has been in the game for decades and has a long track record.

Sarah Palin is a creation of Alaska / US energy interests and will do whatever she needs to do. So will McCain or haven't you noticed the change in him after 2000?

782 kynna  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 5:53:58pm

re: #743 Ezekiel2517

I need to dig up the exact quote, but at least O'Reilly did observe in hindsight about Obama that he never admits when he's made a mistake.

This comment was directly related to the question about the success of the surge.

Remember how crazy they went when some idiot reporter asked Bush to name the mistakes he's made. It was a stupid question and Bush didn't really answer it. For some reason that was just more proof he was eeeeeeeeeevillll!

The thing is that his mistakes were part of a greater picture within an ongoing situation and, even if it was a relevant topic, he couldn't really address them individually. It was stupid. They should have asked if he still felt (insert topic here). Like O'Reilly did with Obama.

In any case, I'm going to be really excited to see how freaked they get about Obama not admitting a mistake.

Waiting ...

Waiting ...

...

...zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

783 GZLives  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 5:56:50pm

"Where you got the idea that "Little Green Footballs completely agrees" with that attitude is anyone's guess. But you are, indeed, quite mistaken."

"completely agrees" ?
is that like being a little pregnant?

My understanding is that LGF does not support Creationism whatsoever ...

784 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 5:58:52pm

re: #781 GZLives

Sorry I wasted my time trying to talk sense to you.

785 jaunte  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 5:58:58pm

O'Reilly had a "non-verbal communications expert" on tonight, deploring the 'arrogance' she detected in Sarah Palin's facial expressions, noting that McCain would have looked more in control and relaxed if he put his hands behind his back (I wonder if that is comfortable for his shoulders; maybe she didn't read his history) and gushing over Obama's leaning forward to O'Reilly to 'make a connection.'
In the year and a half I've not been watching television, O'Reilly has gotten even sillier and more pompous than he was before, which is saying something.

786 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 5:59:15pm

re: #783 GZLives

There's a new thread waiting for you to show everybody that LGF completely agrees with you.

787 LEGION  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 6:01:25pm

re: #8 marsl

For me (i'm a Portuguese), the consequences of a Obama victory would be few.. but for you, American Lizards, the consequences would be disastrous. Not because of Obama, but because of those who are behind him.

No-- it would be a worldwide disaster- he'll let the terrorists run wild- remember them bombing the trains in Spain right next door to you? You are NEXT.

788 kcladderman  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 6:01:52pm

re: #781 GZLives

GAZE

789 Lynn B.  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 6:03:36pm

re: #783 GZLives

"Where you got the idea that "Little Green Footballs completely agrees" with that attitude is anyone's guess. But you are, indeed, quite mistaken."

"completely agrees" ?
is that like being a little pregnant?

My understanding is that LGF does not support Creationism whatsoever ...

I was quoting you, GZ. Don't you remember what you just posted back at #741?

You obviously have no clue what LGF does or does not support (whatever that means). Especially if you think you're "more a defender of Israel and Jews and more vocal about Jihadis and the threat of Islamism then most here." (That's quoting you again, in case you forgot.)

Find another bridge.

790 Oldbluesboy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 6:05:07pm

Obama is an amazing campaigner. While he has been running here in the states, he has also been helping his fellow tribal member Odinga in Kenya run an equally unsuccessful campaign. Obama loves his Muslim sympathizing-Communist brothers in Kenya, even though they killed hundreds of Christians and burned three hundred churches. Sort of like Chicago. Home sweet home, Chicago/Nairobi.

There may be enough illiterate fools to get him elected.

791 LEGION  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 6:07:10pm

re: #441 Celtic Templar

Lincoln and Martin Luther King, Jr. == Republicans

Get new friends- with a pal like that- who needs enemies? Too closeminded.

792 LEGION  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 6:12:45pm

re: #785 jaunte

O'Reilly had a "non-verbal communications expert" on tonight, deploring the 'arrogance' she detected in Sarah Palin's facial expressions, noting that McCain would have looked more in control and relaxed if he put his hands behind his back (I wonder if that is comfortable for his shoulders; maybe she didn't read his history) and gushing over Obama's leaning forward to O'Reilly to 'make a connection.'
In the year and a half I've not been watching television, O'Reilly has gotten even sillier and more pompous than he was before, which is saying something.

She is a regular and always on. Body Language segment. She clearly said she did not have a baseline for Sarah. She did not say that about McCain- she said his baseline is holding his hands in front and fiddling with his wedding ring finger- showing he was in a normal state. Calm down! It was good. A tad prickly- turn the tv off- you were over stimulated! lol

793 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 6:24:47pm

re: #779 Lynn B.

Take a look at this post of his on Drudge Retort. He ♥ ♥'s Hussein & Biden.

[...]No Dave .. I am GZ and there's no way I'd ever vote for a Creationist.

First of all I was a Biden supporter. I contributed a lot of money to him during the campaign and so I couldn't think of a better VP and advisor.

Second, I've come to understand Obama and respect where he's coming from. Why do you think he beat Hillary Dave?

Barry Obama is a midwestern kid who spoke to Iowans like he was speaking to his own grandparents, because thats who his grandparents are.

They'd (Republicans) like to make him into some Black pol completely owned by the Democrat machine in Chicago, but that would be absurd.

He's much more of a typical American then McCain or Hillary was, and that's why he connected so well.

You know how much I support Israel Dave, and you will not find a bigger supporter then Joe Biden and I believe Obama will do the right thing in this regard as well.

Am I being naive? I don't think so Dave. It would be naive to think McCain won't throw Israel under the bus the moment Exxon tells him to for the sake of the Saudis. The GOP is now owned by oil interests or do you think Alaska's Sarah Palin just popped out of thin air? She's a creation of US oil interests and as long as that doesn't conflict with Saudi Arabian interests, Israel will be OK under McCain. But the minute the Saudis have a problem, Israel will be quickly forgotten.[...]

There is a lot more, and also much more on Google. Posts on the ever-lovely HuffPo, too.

Off to the vomitoreum.

794 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 6:30:16pm

re: #785 jaunte

Jaunte

Excellent post...perfect! You have the Bloviator pegged. I have stopped watching him. What he did last night, interviewing Hussein so close to McCain's acceptance speech was unforgivable. And he broke it into 3 parts, I read? Feh.

Sad. He was a local reporter in NYC years ago, just like Geraldo...now they are so full of themselves they have become unbearable.

795 I Need A Bigger Gun  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 6:30:54pm

re: #49 so.cal.swede

Glenn Beck vs. Obama


DISCUSS!

Glenn would tear him a new one and smile while he was doing it.

796 jaunte  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 6:37:24pm

re: #794 NY Nana

It was strange seeing his show again, after a break from television, and seeing how seriously he takes himself.

797 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 6:45:20pm

re: #796 jaunte

It was strange seeing his show again, after a break from television, and seeing how seriously he takes himself.

And his constant interruptions; he almost matches Bubba with his finger pointing in people's faces.

798 Oldbluesboy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 6:54:49pm

Anyone who votes for Obama must be anxiously awaiting a Socialistic society. He's everything James Cone could have wished for. I wonder how the Hispanic majority will accept Sharia law in the next three decades.

799 BaseballMom57  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 8:31:21pm

re: #206 cliffster

Up there, but I think this was the best line... "Let's get one thing clear - only one man in this race has actually fought for you."

Yup, that one was a killer line. Actually brought a tear to my eye! The Guiliani line was humorous. Palin's was gut-wrenchingly true.

800 rorschach  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 8:32:28pm

I didn't want to watch, but curiosity got the best of me.

I made it halfway.


O'Reilly thinks Iraq was the wrong battlefield. So, where is the right battlefield?


Obama...just a smooth-talking prevaricator-extraordinaire. If he is elected, it will be a testament to the ignorance of Americans, and ultimately the effectiveness of the teacher's union.

801 Neo-Con Artist  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 9:00:38pm

So, Iran possessing a nuclear weapon would be a "game changer" for BHO. How is Iran developing a nuclear weapon not a "game changer" considering Iran's President's past rhetoric regard "wiping Israel off the map" and Iran's continued efforts to support it's proxies with weapons to goad Israel into a broader conflict. As far as I can tell, the only "game changer" is a limitation on our military options because once Iran possesses a nuclear weapon it's too late. Diplomacy will have failed, and we can't take the necessary action without the fear of a nuclear reprisal on an ally or on our military forces stationed in Iraq or Afghanistan.

Seems like we've been down that rabbit hole in recent memory. We and other nations of the world used lots of diplomacy with some "small" Asian country on the north end of the Korean Peninsula. What do we have to show for it? More diplomacy? Even that seems unlikely at this point, unless North Korea needs more diplomacy in an effort to remove any remaining UN sanctions. It's interesting that diplomacy really means "nation without nuclear weapons will get them - eventually". Some diplomacy.

So, BHO, why is it inappropriate for presidential candidates to discuss how they'd deal with Iran or other rogue nations seeking nuclear weapons against the wishes of the world? Why complain about the lack of specifics in your opponent's speech, but you, yourself, refuse to provide specifics on how you'd handle a potentially critical foreign policy situation? Here was the perfect time to introduce your "specifics", given the lack "specifics" in your own recycled speech at the convention.

BHO states, "I would not take military action off the table." One has to wonder whether it's truly on the table to begin with. If not, I guess that would make his statement literally correct. After all, you can't take something off the table if it was never on the table to begin with. Which leads me to wonder - what the is "game changer", really? It must be a move from "discussion with no preconditions" to "discussions with preconditions". "Discussions with preconditions" sounds a lot like "diplomacy". Given our record and the world's record of "diplomacy", is this the "change" we're looking for?

802 GZLives  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 9:20:23pm

#793

"There is a lot more, and also much more on Google. Posts on the ever-lovely HuffPo, too.

Off to the vomitoreum."

There sure is a lot more and please do read it all ...
Maybe you'll get a clue.

The earth wasn't created in six days IMHO Lynn and anyone who believes that I want nowhere near where they can do me any harm.

You're certainly entitled to believe otherwise but then you'd be no better then those wearing nijabs and burkas who want to drag us all back into the 7th century.

And remember, McCain had to have Joe Lieberman whisper in his ear to correct him regarding the difference between Sunni and Shia - in case you don't realize it, that would mean McCain doesn't understand Israel and how complex that part of the world is.

He just wants the Jewish vote but once he gets it, forget it. McCain is a privileged Admiral's kid not very different then the last guy ... or did you enjoy the last 8 years of having a semi retarded President?

Sorry, but for me its really country first and at least insofar as Israel is concerned, Biden's Jewish inlaws trump some old Republican making us a promise when I know he needs Jewish votes ... what's that worth? At least Biden can and does speak a few Yiddish words.

I would have liked Newt Gingrich to run because at least he's a smart guy and gets the issues.
But McCain? Pleeease.
You're dreaming of you think he cares or will care about Israel.

803 pittrader1988  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 9:39:55pm

Since you guys brought it up. I was at a party in December of 2006. My daughter spoke to Bill Ayers, who happened to be there. She asked, " Do you know Barack Obama?

He said, "Yes, we are friends, and I babysit his children."

No video tape or tape recorder. Hesaid/shesaid story. However, I was there, and I am not making this up. I don't exactly know how to get the story out without impinging many friendships that I have, or bringing an unimaginable assault from the left wing media to my daughter.

It's party conversation. But the relationship is more than professional. You really can't pressure the Obama's to say who their babysitters are. I agree with them, kids are off limits, unless they are out campaigning (like Chelsea in this campaign)

Ayers clearly has an affinity for teaching kids, he is a professor. He is a terrorist, but he and his wife have locked themselves into the left wing academic establishment. Many on the left agree with him, and wish they would have had the balls to do what he did, kill innocents.

The radical left wing is using a cunning strategy. They teach your kids about history, math and science when you send them to school. Brainwashing is more like it.

804 Jimmah  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 10:03:53pm

Obama doesn't get that Islamism animates the heads of several dragons, all of which are snapping at us and all of which have to be dealt with.

805 Daisy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 10:14:41pm

Hey Obama quick: Since you mentioned it, what's the difference between the Sunni Islamists and the Sheit Islamists?

If Mouth Almighty O'Reilly hadn't kept interrupting Obama (in order to hear himself speak) - we could have watched Obama dig himself into an even deeper rut.

806 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 10:18:34pm

Evening, looks like it is another ID debate night at LGF.

807 Daisy  Fri, Sep 5, 2008 10:20:20pm

re: #803 pittrader1988

"He said, "Yes, we are friends, and I babysit his children."

Murderer Ayers babysits the Obama offspring (aka 'punishments') and the Left has the gaul to say anything about Palin's parenting abilities?!

Wow. Hope this does get broadcast. Your daughter can't be the only person who knows this (and as a parent, I'm right there with you w/your concern for your daughter).

808 acidtrash  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 3:18:00am

At least the man has a basic grasp of the issues. He may be a liberal douche but at least he has a pair when compared with British politicos.

809 RickZ  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 6:03:31am

re: #508 alegrias

Because President Bush the first did NOT unleash our fierce military to remove Saddam Hussein conclusively, totally, unconditionally during the first Gulf War, I did not vote for him the second time.

Let's be fair here to Pres. Bush, Sr. In 1990, The United States led a coalition against Iraq that was under UN auspices. Once we pretty much wiped out the Republican Guard on the Road of Death, our troops were poised and primed to march into Baghdad. But the UN said stop. Orders are orders, even with that Chain of Command. IMO, the UN is directly responsible for everything that has happened in Iraq since 1991. Though I'm sure the eUNuchs would stridently disagree.

810 MoonbatBane  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 7:24:22am

re: #48 Piglet-U93

Do you know of any real moderate Muslims who abhore terrorism that do not have a fatwa death threat on them? Chew on that.

Actually, yes, I do. Several, in fact. I am firmly convinced that they are the majority here. From talking with my friends overseas, though, it appears to be a uniquely American phenomenon. That said, there are definitely more than 10% in the "Death to America" and "Islam uber alles" crowd living in the States. (I have met some of those, too. They try to hide it, but let's just say that they aren't very good at it. And no, they are not my friends or even acquaintances, but more acquaintances of acquaintances.)

811 Kalliope  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:03:53am

I stopped watching O'Reilly after he talke