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Daily Kos: Palin is 'Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, and Mean' - Update: Down the Memory Hole!

Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:20:22 am PDT

Here we go again at Daily Kos, with another disgusting, transparently false smear against Sarah Palin: Daily Kos: ‘So Sambo Beat The Bitch’ - Sarah Palin...

Progressives! Is there any depth to which they will not dive?

Here’s the article they’re linking to, at “LA Progressive:” Alaskans Speak (In A Frightened Whisper): Palin Is “Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, And Mean.”

The charge that Palin has racist attitudes toward Eskimos is based on the word of an anonymous waitress at an unnamed restaurant. Another word for this kind of smear is “lying.”

It’s not even worth debunking, but I’ll just point out that Palin’s husband is of Eskimo descent.

UPDATE at 9/6/08 11:47:08 am:

And another Daily Kos hate diary vanishes down the memory hole: Daily Kos: ‘So Sambo Beat The Bitch’ - Sarah Palin...

UPDATE at 9/6/08 3:19:53 pm:

The Daily Kos administrators better get cracking, because here’s another one: Daily Kos: Did Palin call Barack a Sambo and Hillary a Bitch?

UPDATE at 9/6/08 7:42:36 pm:

Another one down the memory hole! Daily Kos: Did Palin call Barack a Sambo and Hillary a Bitch?

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1 NoSubmission  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:21:11am

Sounds more like they are describing Obama's wife.

2 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:21:33am

Smell that? That's fear.

Heh™

3 noshariaincanada  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:21:43am

Daily Kos is a swamp I will not visit.

4 freedomplow  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:21:51am

And Biden wanted to segregate Iraq.

5 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:22:10am

"Racist, Sexist, Vindictive and Mean"- sounds like they're describing the media and left.

6 semper Gumbi  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:22:15am

They picked this up from the DUmmies yesterday.

7 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:22:36am

How the hell can a woman who is married to a card carrying member of an Eskimo tribe, who has borne 5 children who are part Eskimo, be racist towards Eskimos?

8 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:22:38am

This was ' out there' yesterday or the day before I think. Apparently, they have no idea that one of Todd's grandparents was (is) Eskimo.

9 Cognito  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:23:03am

A bowling-lane attendant name John, who declined to use his last name for whatever unimaginable reason, once overheard Barack Obama say he hates babies and would declare war on anyone under two years old, lest his eventual nemesis survive and grow.

Totally true.

10 esch  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:23:07am

I don't think they know the meaning of 'Vindictive'.

Yet.

11 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:23:08am

Actually, most of the comments are opposing this nonsense. They realize how stupid they look.

12 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:23:51am

For that matter, come to think on it, so am I...

13 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:23:52am

If the KosKids are upset, then it is a good thing....What's the matter Kossacks? She too much for you to handle? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

14 FrogMarch  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:24:01am

KOS = prominent democrats. Come on Obama - pander to this crowd.
pander pander pander! Pander to the slick liars who have sent you millions of dollars.

15 Pullus Iulius  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:24:06am

Their fears have rendered them bestial.

16 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:24:07am

The more the hate someone the more effective the person is.............

I love the smell of frothing moonbats in the morning....
It smells like victory.

17 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:24:08am

'Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, and Mean'

Why are we still talking about Bill Clinton?

18 protestshooter  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:24:37am

There they go again.

19 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:24:44am

re: #9 Cognito

Hmmm.

20 Charles  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:24:54am

re: #11 JammieWearingFool

Actually, most of the comments are opposing this nonsense. They realize how stupid they look.

True. And yet, oddly enough, these smears just keep getting posted.

21 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:25:04am

Overheard at an unnamed street corner in an unnamed city in an unnamed state

Sarah Palin
"I hate Eskimo;s so much I think I'll marry one and saddle him with 5 children, one of which will have Downs Syndrome"

22 reno911  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:25:25am

The blowback will occur in November.

23 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:25:50am

That's some awfully thin straw they're grasping at.

The panic has set in.

24 FrogMarch  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:26:23am

The democrats at KOS have already told us they will use lies to discredit anyone who stands in their way.

25 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:27:30am

Life near the North Pole?

Doesn't that writer know how to look at a map?

26 lawhawk  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:27:59am

re: #20 Charles

True. And yet, oddly enough, these smears just keep getting posted.

Because they keep hunting for a smear that will stick.

27 sbvft contributor  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:28:07am

Why she's a skinhead. Uh-huh. That's why the only other flag in her office is Israel's.

28 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:28:28am

re: #20 Charles

True. And yet, oddly enough, these smears just keep getting posted.

I didn't go over there much this week, but I assume it's been wild conspiracy stuff daily. Perhaps they're just tired of rehashing the same crazy conspiracies.

29 zombie  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:28:32am

The paradigm has changed. No longer can ANYONE trust even the media on a claim like this without solid proof. Unless there is an audio tape of Palin saying "sambo" or trashing Eskimos, the credibility factor is zero.

On the other hand, there are videotapes of Biden insulting blacks, and Indian-Americans.

Let's trot them out, shall we?

30 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:28:48am
Palin may well be Dick Cheney’s reincarnate.

Ummmmm...doesn't one need to be dead before reincarnation can happen?

31 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:29:02am

re: #25 MandyManners

Life near the North Pole?

Doesn't that writer know how to look at a map?

He's got every Starbucks in an 8 mile radius of home mapped into his GPS as favorites.

32 yesandno  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:29:07am

Daily Kos: Palin is 'Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, and Mean'

When it comes to stuff like this, they are the EXPERTS!

/of course, lying is big there as well.....

33 Luigi  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:29:17am

I've heard the National Enquirer is out to get Palin as well.

Rush said yesterday the owner of the National Enquirer is friends with the Clintons. He said it right at the top of the hour as he was going on. He wanted people to know.

That explains why the Enquirer took out John Edwards, and why they took him out just as Obama was picking his vp running mate. The destruction of Edwards eliminated a major obstacle to the selection of Hillary.

Alaska right now is said to be crawling with Enquirer reporters looking for dirt on Palin. In fact, McCain campaign manager Steve Schmidt has already threatened to sue them...

[Link: news.bostonherald.com...]

If Rush is right, and the Enquirer is operating at the behest of the Clinton camp, then Hillary's objective must be seen as remove Palin from the ticket. This way Credentialed Feminism will not be supplanted by Do It Yourself Feminism. The Old Girls' Network will be secure, and Hillary will be the Pope of Women.

Her position as the Spokesperson For Women will be much more secure if Obama loses. She can do this best by feigning support for Obama but actually letting her supporters gravitate to the McCain ticket, with or without Palin. I noted this morning there is a thread on the Hillary forum that holds some nasty sentiments for Obama. We're not talking Bill Ayers nasty. We're talking Larry Sinclair nasty.

[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]

This is identity politics. Sharpton, then Jackson, first butted heads with Obama to be King of the African Americans. Earlier, the civil rights decons of the Dem party tried to exterminate Clarence Thomas who didn't bow down to them.

Now Hillary, Kathleen Sibelius of Kansas and Janet Napolitano of Arizona are joining with Gloria Steinem, Maureen Dowd, Eleanor Clift and Sally Quinn to keep the Old Girls' Network of Credentialed Feminism a tight-knit family.

34 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:29:28am

"Racist, Sexist, Vindictive and Mean"

I think it's called "projection".

35 laZardo  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:30:17am

1:30 am and I'm gonna get some shuteye for the last day of my college term break. G'night!

36 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:30:19am
According to Kilkenny and others in Wasilla as well as Juneau, Palin reduced progressive property taxes for businesses while mayor and increased a regressive sales tax which even hits necessities such as food. The tax cuts she promoted in her St. Paul speech actually benefited large corporate property owners far more than they benefited residents. Indeed, Kilkenny insists that many Wasilla home owners actually saw their tax bill skyrocket to make up for the shortfall. Two other Wasillian’s with whom I spoke said property taxes on their modest, three bedroom homes rose during the Palin regime.

This is easy to prove/disprove. It's called "research."

37 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:30:26am

The more frothy they get, the meaner and more outrageous they get, the better.....keep it coming you nimrods....every time you hit her with one of your over the top sissy slaps, you push more people to her side...thank you, thank you to each and every one of you smug and clueless fools!

38 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:30:48am

re: #20 Charles

re: #11 JammieWearingFool
Actually, most of the comments are opposing this nonsense. They realize how stupid they look.

True. And yet, oddly enough, these smears just keep getting posted.

Because they have no real "dirt" to dig up about Gov. Palin. And I think they (some of them, at least) have already realized trying to make a martyr of Taser Trooper Wooten is a foolish and losing proposition.

39 chicagodudewhotrades  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:30:50am

re: #20 Charles

Charles, JWF, and everyone,

How exactly are diaries posted at DKos? Does Markos employ moderators on staff? Is there a 'holding' period between when a diary is written and when it actually appears on the site so it can be reviewed? Yes, the comments are against these posts but, as noted, they still keep appearing over there. I'm just wondering how their site works.

40 kynna  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:30:53am

Daily Kos: Palin is 'Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, and Mean'

Every seen a mirror guys?

41 calcajun  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:31:02am

[Link: despair.com...]

This might explain why they keep doing it.

42 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:31:10am

re: #30 MandyManners

You'd think shooting yourself in the foot would be adequate, wouldn't you?

43 kynna  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:31:19am

Every = Ever

44 jones  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:31:20am

why the 80% popularity? Fear?

Flailing wildly.

45 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:31:41am

I saw a rundown of the smears against here somewhere the other day. Every single allegation has been demonstrably false, yet they continue making more things up.

Truly desperate.

If she was such a lightweight and was vulnerable, they'd stand back and let her crumble.

They fear her and must resort to the vilest of slanders.

By the way, how's that Thomas Eagleton thing working out?

46 Reality_Wrangler  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:31:50am

When does it start getting really cold in Alaska...? I really want to see MSM morons "reporting" shit like this is those huge mega michelin man parkas. Talk about a Broadcast News moment. LOL

47 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:31:54am

All of these allegations about taxation and the like can be proven objectively.

48 WindHorse  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:32:46am

For good measure, she turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots.

Of course, the big box stores and the people who shop at them had nothing to do with this...

49 itellu3times  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:33:15am

re: #48 WindHorse

For good measure, she turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots.

Of course, the big box stores and the people who shop at them had nothing to do with this...

Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded.

50 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:34:04am

Well, I'm sure all these unnamed Alaskans wouldn't lie to us, right?

/

51 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:34:04am

Two years ago -my child had a teacher who made snide remarks about Fox news not being a real news source. I provided here the email for the teacher and the principal. Within a few days time the teacher was stammer and stuttering apologies and "clarifications" to his classes.

Now another child has the same teacher who she says is slamming Sarah Palin - Im looking for that email. I'll be back,.....

52 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:34:11am

re: #48 WindHorse

For good measure, she turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots.

Of course, the big box stores and the people who shop at them had nothing to do with this...

Last time I was in a "big box store" they had a BIG ROSTER OF PEOPLE WORKING, not sitting at home collecting welfare

53 WindHorse  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:34:15am

a waste land....

54 stuiec  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:34:26am

Well, what do you expect from a Vice Presidential candidate who bragged about being from a "slave state"?

Oh... wait... that's the OTHER ticket, isn't it?

55 fireangel  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:34:34am

There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth in the Kos corner when McCain/Palin sound whip Obama/Biden in the election. For me the best part of the Repub win is that the kos kids and the leftist media will have influenced voters to go out and vote for our side.:)

56 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:34:46am

re: #48 WindHorse

For good measure, she turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots.

Of course, the big box stores and the people who shop at them had nothing to do with this...

It's the evil Walmart - where Hillary was on the BOARD - OOPS!

57 jones  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:34:47am

So before 2006, no bigbox stores existed in Wasilla?


That is experience in economic growth.

58 jharada  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:34:56am

Well I have not seen any Rev. "GD America" Wright or Will"I didn't do enough"Ayres in there, soooooo
all I have to say is this

Obama v the SnowWoman...

59 stuiec  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:35:08am

re: #50 Occasional Reader

Well, I'm sure all these unnamed Alaskans wouldn't lie to us, right?

/

No, they would not. Because to lie, they would have to actually EXIST.

60 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:35:21am

re: #44 jones

why the 80% popularity? Fear?

Flailing wildly.

Exactly! Alaska has become such a repressive police state under racist Fuerher Palin that people are terrified to respond truthfully to polls!

61 calcajun  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:35:28am

re: #30 MandyManners

Ummmmm...doesn't one need to be dead before reincarnation can happen?

Yep..Ol' Dick checked out months ago--that's why no one's seen him at the RNC. They did that whole soul transfer thingy and now they got this "Goodbye, Charlie" ([Link: www.imdb.com...] ) act going now. Just look and listen how Sarah says "big time" and listen to her chuckle--it's pure Dick Cheney I tell you. /

62 debutaunt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:35:34am

re: #21 sattv4u2

Overheard at an unnamed street corner in an unnamed city in an unnamed state

Sarah Palin
"I hate Eskimo;s so much I think I'll marry one and saddle him with 5 children, one of which will have Downs Syndrome"

The National Enquirer and NY Times verified that story.

63 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:35:49am

I heard Sarah Palin once picked her nose.

64 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:36:03am

re: #31 jcm

He's got every Starbucks in an 8 mile radius of home mapped into his GPS as favorites.

I wonder if Charley even tried to look up the information about her actions in municipal government on-line.

In journalism school, I was taught that you MUST have attribution. This entire article is marked by the absence thereof. Even a cursory search through back articles of the town's/region's papers would suffice.

65 zombie  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:36:05am

Here's a TV story about Biden trying to waffle his way out of the "first clean black" comment (which he confirms saying, by defending it).

And here of course is the "7/11 Indian accent" tape.

66 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:36:57am

re: #33 Luigi

I've heard the National Enquirer is out to get Palin as well.

Rush said yesterday the owner of the National Enquirer is friends with the Clintons. He said it right at the top of the hour as he was going on. He wanted people to know.

That explains why the Enquirer took out John Edwards, and why they took him out just as Obama was picking his vp running mate. The destruction of Edwards eliminated a major obstacle to the selection of Hillary.

Alaska right now is said to be crawling with Enquirer reporters looking for dirt on Palin. In fact, McCain campaign manager Steve Schmidt has already threatened to sue them...

[Link: news.bostonherald.com...]

That could be why rangels biting the dust too = Obama is taking the black caucus to the woodshed.
If Rush is right, and the Enquirer is operating at the behest of the Clinton camp, then Hillary's objective must be seen as remove Palin from the ticket. This way Credentialed Feminism will not be supplanted by Do It Yourself Feminism. The Old Girls' Network will be secure, and Hillary will be the Pope of Women.

Her position as the Spokesperson For Women will be much more secure if Obama loses. She can do this best by feigning support for Obama but actually letting her supporters gravitate to the McCain ticket, with or without Palin. I noted this morning there is a thread on the Hillary forum that holds some nasty sentiments for Obama. We're not talking Bill Ayers nasty. We're talking Larry Sinclair nasty.

[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]

This is identity politics. Sharpton, then Jackson, first butted heads with Obama to be King of the African Americans. Earlier, the civil rights decons of the Dem party tried to exterminate Clarence Thomas who didn't bow down to them.

Now Hillary, Kathleen Sibelius of Kansas and Janet Napolitano of Arizona are joining with Gloria Steinem, Maureen Dowd, Eleanor Clift and Sally Quinn to keep the Old Girls' Network of Credentialed Feminism a tight-knit family.

67 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:37:22am

re: #51 DistantThunder

Two years ago -my child had a teacher who made snide remarks about Fox news not being a real news source. I provided here the email for the teacher and the principal. Within a few days time the teacher was stammer and stuttering apologies and "clarifications" to his classes.

Now another child has the same teacher who she says is slamming Sarah Palin - Im looking for that email. I'll be back,.....

And when students ask me about whom I support, I always reply, "I don't discuss politics."

Unless that teacher's subject is social studies, and then only if the unit is civics or current events, she is wasting class time, and that's a valid complaint to make to the principal--not her politics but that she's not following the curriculum.

68 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:37:26am

re: #9 Cognito

A bowling-lane attendant name John, who declined to use his last name for whatever unimaginable reason, once overheard Barack Obama say he hates babies and would declare war on anyone under two years old, lest his eventual nemesis survive and grow.

Totally true.

LOL.

69 quickjustice  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:37:29am

Eskimos? Inuit! ;-)

70 jharada  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:37:33am

Hmmm no mention of Clean and Articulate by Biden.

How Sepcial.

71 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:37:43am

re: #51 DistantThunder

Two years ago -my child had a teacher who made snide remarks about Fox news not being a real news source. I provided here the email for the teacher and the principal. Within a few days time the teacher was stammer and stuttering apologies and "clarifications" to his classes.

Now another child has the same teacher who she says is slamming Sarah Palin - Im looking for that email. I'll be back,.....

Go for it!

72 looking closely  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:37:44am

All they've got are lies an innuendo.

Its not going to work.

73 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:38:11am

We must mock them.

Follow Sarah's lead.

Mock the shit out of them.

74 calcajun  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:38:23am

re: #65 zombie

Here's a TV story about Biden trying to waffle his way out of the "first clean black" comment (which he confirms saying, by defending it).

And here of course is the "7/11 Indian accent" tape.

What do expect from a guy from Scranton (with apologies to anyone actually living in Scranton). After all, he might not have any guns or religion; poor guy has gotta have something to cling to.

75 sbvft contributor  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:38:34am

When a Fresh Fields opened up in liberal Philadlphia, it was instantaneously flooded with customers, putting lots of small organic groceries out of business. Liberals love their big box stores too. They just won't admit it.

76 Fo knee ix  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:38:43am

Kossacks: "Palin is 'Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, and Mean'"

Um, Projection? Or, in other words, 'I Know you are but what am I.'

77 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:38:46am

re: #61 calcajun

Yep..Ol' Dick checked out months ago--that's why no one's seen him at the RNC. They did that whole soul transfer thingy and now they got this "Goodbye, Charlie" ([Link: www.imdb.com...] ) act going now. Just look and listen how Sarah says "big time" and listen to her chuckle--it's pure Dick Cheney I tell you. /

Actually, Cheney's shape-shifting powers have been transfered to Palin.

78 yesandno  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:38:58am

re: #36 MandyManners

According to Kilkenny and others in Wasilla as well as Juneau, Palin reduced progressive property taxes for businesses while mayor and increased a regressive sales tax which even hits necessities such as food. The tax cuts she promoted in her St. Paul speech actually benefited large corporate property owners far more than they benefited residents. Indeed, Kilkenny insists that many Wasilla home owners actually saw their tax bill skyrocket to make up for the shortfall. Two other Wasillian’s with whom I spoke said property taxes on their modest, three bedroom homes rose during the Palin regime.

This is easy to prove/disprove. It's called "research."

Don't doubt there will be something that Palin did in the past in government where we would have made a different decision. Going to happen.

And tax hikes are never popular. But tax hikes at the local level get turned over to local projects for the most part. Sewage and garbage collection, water bills, road repair, etc. Federal taxes and a lot a state taxes never get back to the people who pay them. So, tax increases depend on what, where, who, and why. That said, I don't want my property tax increased...I would like it eliminated...but that ain't going to happen today, I am sure. I do have hope, however---and a bit of change since I just got my tax bill....how's that for crossing the aisle?

79 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:39:09am

re: #63 Sharmuta

I heard Sarah Palin once picked her nose.

STONE HER.

80 jones  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:39:18am

I'm writing a play and want to float it by you.

It is set in 17th century Salem and some girls are accusing everyone of being a witch, and people use witchcraft accusations to steal land or get political power.

Then Sarah Palin turns everyone into newts.

Sound good? I just need a title.

81 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:39:23am

re: #65 zombie

Here's a TV story about Biden trying to waffle his way out of the "first clean black" comment (which he confirms saying, by defending it).

And here of course is the "7/11 Indian accent" tape.

do you have any pics of the "PRE" and "POST" hairplugs?

82 looking closely  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:39:43am

re: #74 calcajun

What do expect from a guy from Scranton (with apologies to anyone actually living in Scranton). After all, he might not have any guns or religion; poor guy has gotta have something to cling to.

Biden most certainly hates guns.

IIRC he was a huge advocate of the Clinton gun ban, and other anti-second amendment legislation.

83 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:39:57am

Biden - foreign policy expert:



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By The Prowler
Published 2/2/2005 12:07:29 AM
UGLY AMERICAN OF THE WEEK
So much for Sen. Joe Biden's audition as a future Secretary of State. At least if you ask the Iranians.

Last week at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Biden agreed to serve as a host and leading U.S. representative at a dinner with senior Iranian government officials. WEF staff contacted Biden's staff and said later that Biden or at least his aides took an active interest in coordinating the planning for the event.

Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi was the highest-ranking Iranian official present at the event. Which is more than can be said for his U.S. counterparts; for the first hour and half of the dinner others had to lead the discussion, because Joe Biden was a mysterious no-show.

Just as well, because the evening never got on the right footing. Wine was served -- much to the outrage of the Iranian guests -- then all alcohol was removed. Soup spoons were removed -- not for religious or any other reason, apparently -- leaving guests to twiddle their thumbs while their soup got cold. Then it was discovered by the Iranians that the main course featured non-hallal meat.

And through all of this, there was no Joe Biden to calm nerves or build bridges.

"It was pretty bad from what we heard after the fact," says a U.S. attendee to the Davos conference. "Emotions were running extremely high. The Iranians felt insult had been heaped on insult. They were particularly offended that the hosts appeared to know so little about basic Islamic dietary law."

Once the serving miscues were resolved, it was pile on the Iranians time again, but this time dealing with the serious matter of Iran's nuclear weapons program, which Kharrazi predictably denied was a weapons program at all.

Finally, as the tense discussion appeared ready to, well, explode, Biden showed up with this wife Jill, who was dressed in what was described in press reports as "figure-hugging leather pants" and a tank top. Again, the Iranians, who no doubt ogled a bit, were insulted.

The dining disaster was the talk of Davos, though got comparatively little coverage here in the United States. "This kind of thing could have happened to anyone, but the fact that it happened to Biden is just too rich," says a Republican congressional staffer who traveled with his boss to Davos. "The Biden people were pushing this dinner as a very high profile thing, then all of sudden they are trying to kill any story they can."

84 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:40:01am

re: #65 zombie

Here's a TV story about Biden trying to waffle his way out of the "first clean black" comment (which he confirms saying, by defending it).

And here of course is the "7/11 Indian accent" tape.

HOW DARE YOU!

ARE YOU IMPLYING THAT JOE BIDEN IS A RACIST!

HE CAN'T BE! HE IS NOT A REPUBLICAN!

/Message from the DU Comment Ambassador

85 Cicero05  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:40:18am

Bill Whittle has a great analysis piece in NRO Online today about the potentially seismic implications that Sarah has for the Repubs. Well worth the read.

This is the first time in years that I feel proud and excited to be a Republican conservative.

86 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:40:21am

re: #46 Reality_Wrangler

When does it start getting really cold in Alaska...? I really want to see MSM morons "reporting" shit like this is those huge mega michelin man parkas. Talk about a Broadcast News moment. LOL

Depends on where you are in Alaska. There is an awful lot of Alaska you know.

87 politicalinsomniac  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:40:33am

I think it's safe to say that the Daily Kos is actually helping McCain/Palin at this point...

88 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:40:44am

Dear KosKids, Barack and Joe

I grew up in a predominately Italian neighborhood in Boston Mass. I learned that Alaska is part of the United States. In my neighborhood, when asked where Alsaka is, I would hear

UPPAH YOU S

I say the same to you !

89 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:40:51am

I heard they have a Wal-Mart big box store in Delaware now! I wonder if Joe Biden inflicted that upon his constituents?

90 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:40:53am

re: #67 goddessoftheclassroom

And when students ask me about whom I support, I always reply, "I don't discuss politics."

Unless that teacher's subject is social studies, and then only if the unit is civics or current events, she is wasting class time, and that's a valid complaint to make to the principal--not her politics but that she's not following the curriculum.

It is some sort of history/civics class, but she said he is being very demeaning towards Palin.

91 Reluctant Democrat  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:41:00am

Are you sure she didn't call him a trollop? LOL. Smell the fear....

92 Celtic Templar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:41:23am

Sounds like Oprah Winfrey, not Sarah Palin.

93 kuffar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:41:33am

Has the entire Democrat Party gone Revolutionary Communist?

94 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:41:36am

This is all logic akin to : "Behead those who do not embrace the religion of peace!"

95 calcajun  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:41:50am

re: #81 Desert Dog

do you have any pics of the "PRE" and "POST" hairplugs?

No pre-plug shots exist - the glare burned the camera lens and fried the film emulsion.

96 looking closely  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:41:56am

re: #89 Desert Dog

I heard they have a Wal-Mart big box store in Delaware now! I wonder if Joe Biden inflicted that upon his constituents?

They should change the state motto of Delaware to:

"Delware, an annoying toll stop between New York and Washington".

97 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:42:17am

re: #87 politicalinsomniac

I think it's safe to say that the Daily Kos is actually helping McCain/Palin at this point...

Shhhhhhhhhhh....

98 NoSubmission  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:42:18am

When's the next Palin speech/appearance?

Can't wait to see her again.

99 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:42:22am

I heard Sarah Palin once used her entree fork for her salad. Can you imagine?!

100 Pullus Iulius  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:42:58am

re: #89 Desert Dog

I heard they have a Wal-Mart big box store in Delaware now! I wonder if Joe Biden inflicted that upon his constituents?

I was under the impression that the state motto of Delaware was "The Home of Tax-Free Shopping." It's certainly on all the signs at the state line.

101 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:43:12am

re: #99 Sharmuta

I heard Sarah Palin once used her entree fork for her salad. Can you imagine?!

*swoon* Pass the smelling salts, please.

102 vagabond trader  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:43:40am

lol, before seeing the kos word, thought this was the rev Wright popping into view again.

103 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:43:51am

re: #93 kuffar

Has the entire Democrat Party gone Revolutionary Communist?

An awful lot of them appear to have. Witness the Red Star of the Kremlin with which they decorated the site of their convention. That Red Star is not just some graphic that looked nice. It has represented Communism for a hundred years or so and is very well known as such.

104 looking closely  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:43:59am

re: #99 Sharmuta

I heard Sarah Palin once used her entree fork for her salad. Can you imagine?!

Obviously a false rumor.

She only eats rare moose meat.

105 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:44:11am

re: #85 Cicero05

Bill Whittle has a great analysis piece in NRO Online today about the potentially seismic implications that Sarah has for the Repubs. Well worth the read.

This is the first time in years that I feel proud and excited to be a Republican conservative.

Go to his website and you can read how happy he is to have gotten published in NRO. I am very happy for him. Hopefully he will still slum the comments section here from time to time.

106 debutaunt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:44:54am

re: #80 jones

I'm writing a play and want to float it by you.

It is set in 17th century Salem and some girls are accusing everyone of being a witch, and people use witchcraft accusations to steal land or get political power.

Then Sarah Palin turns everyone into newts.

Sound good? I just need a title.

Newts and lizards and witches, oh my!

107 sbvft contributor  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:44:56am

re: #103 galloping granny

you got a pic of that Red Star? ANy sickles?

108 jaunte  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:44:58am

re: #99 Sharmuta

The big slam on Palin from the dems around my office (channeling the left-side media) is that she's "mean." I think that means she's difficult to attack.

109 mfarmer1  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:45:28am

You guys just don't get it. Sarah Palin's husband is a clean and articulate Eskimo who is also very well versed in proper 7-11 etiquette.

110 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:45:29am

re: #90 DistantThunder

It is some sort of history/civics class, but she said he is being very demeaning towards Palin.

What a poor teacher.

111 NoSubmission  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:45:34am

She's Healthy, Runs and Likes a Mocha in the Morning!

“My family and I eat a healthy diet heavy in wild Alaskan seafood, moose, caribou and fresh fruit,” she says. “I guess my biggest pitfall is breakfast. I know it’s the most important meal of the day but I still haven’t bought into it. I hate to admit it, but a skinny white-chocolate mocha is my staple in the morning.”


/stone her!

112 Syrah  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:46:04am

re: #48 WindHorse

For good measure, she turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots.

Of course, the big box stores and the people who shop at them had nothing to do with this...

Not to mention the many that they employ.

113 Bruce Rheinstein  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:46:26am

The Kos Kids just can't help themselves.

"Is Scott Richter Actually Trig Palin's Real Dad?" [Link: www.dailykos.com...]

114 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:46:33am

re: #78 yesandno

Good points.

115 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:46:36am

re: #101 MandyManners

*swoon* Pass the smelling salts, please.

I bet that chef she let go has some stories to tell. I bet the Palins have an insufficient respect for Arugula.

116 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:46:59am

re: #112 Syrah

Not to mention the many that they employ.

GMTA (see my #52)

117 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:47:01am

My Aleut friend never said anything about this. He must be afraid.
///

118 Fo knee ix  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:47:22am

re: #105 karmic_inquisitor

The Big Lie, Shriveled, Gollum-esque slander is on its heels, about to fall into the pit of Mt Doom.

Obama = The Ring
Palin = Frodo

119 vagabond trader  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:47:41am

re: #111 NoSubmission

Ummmm, fresh Alaska seafood, not that chemically tainted sh%t from China.

120 Dammits Dad  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:48:15am

The more they toss this kind of crap on the wall to see if anything sticks, the more sure I am that she is the right person for the job.

McCain/Palin o8 ----Palin/somebody 2012 or 16

121 looking closely  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:48:22am

re: #105 karmic_inquisitor

Go to his website and you can read how happy he is to have gotten published in NRO. I am very happy for him. Hopefully he will still slum the comments section here from time to time.

That explains it.
I never remember seeing him at NRO before.

122 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:48:31am

re: #115 karmic_inquisitor

I bet that chef she let go has some stories to tell. I bet the Palins have an insufficient respect for Arugula.

LOL!

(Dagnabit! You beat me to the arugula joke!)

123 Syrah  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:48:32am

re: #104 looking closely

Obviously a false rumor.

She only eats rare moose meat.

Eating rare Elk, and I imagine that Caribou would be the same, is like taking a bite into the most wonderful piece of meat that you could imagine.

124 Old Buick Tanker  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:48:43am

re: #80 jones

I'm writing a play and want to float it by you.

It is set in 17th century Salem and some girls are accusing everyone of being a witch, and people use witchcraft accusations to steal land or get political power.

Then Sarah Palin turns everyone into newts.

Sound good? I just need a title.


Well, she turned me into a Møøse. Then she made me bite my sister once.

...but I got better...

125 Gearhead  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:48:54am

re: #94 karmic_inquisitor

This is all logic akin to : "Behead those who do not embrace the religion of peace!"

Party of Tolerance (PoT)

Run by PoTheads, of course.

126 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:49:11am

I heard Sarah Palin drinks tap water. Tap water?

127 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:49:41am

re: #3 noshariaincanada

Daily Kos is a swamp I will not visit.

Oh, but you REALLY must visit. It is the duty of every patriot to confront and know the enemy, no matter the repulsive nature. Take Mikey Moore on Larry King last night, I could only watch in short bursts but I did my duty. Once again he used the bodies of dead soldiers (Iraq, Afghanistan) as sandbags to shield himself from hurricane Reality. I almost had to buy a TV in this hotel, I was so incensed at his response to the mention of the surge actually working.

Oh and hello one and all, this hatchling has been waiting long for his egg to crack! I'm honored to be among such hearty and brave centurions of truth.

128 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:49:52am

re: #126 Sharmuta

I heard Sarah Palin drinks tap water. Tap water?

Philistine!

129 Ojoe  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:49:55am

This instant eruption of vitriol floors me.

May these types be cast into the political wilderness for generations come November.

130 SlartyBartfast  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:50:09am

Irony meter pegging out...

From Flopping Aces' great post, Palin’s Trooper’Gate: Beating MSM distortions to the truth

SUMMARY: Sarah confirms an email on Aug 10th, 2005 to Col Julia Grimes, Director of AST (Alaska State Troopers) complaining of Wooten’s negative representation of the department. Wooten’s abuse of his authority and position in various instances. His [Wooten's] racist attitudes towards native Alaskans (Todd Palin is a native Alaskan…), abuse of state resources (free gas/credit), illegal hunting activities, and Sarah’s daughter (Bristol) being a witness to Wooten’s tasering of his 11 year old stepson (verified)

131 looking closely  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:50:28am

re: #123 Syrah

Eating rare Elk, and I imagine that Caribou would be the same, is like taking a bite into the most wonderful piece of meat that you could imagine.

Nothing like a little land sushi.

132 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:50:38am

re: #127 ZoomieMSgt

WELCOME!

133 SlartyBartfast  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:50:51am

re: #97 karmic_inquisitor

Shhhhhhhhhhh....

When your enemy is making a mistake, don't interfere!

Heh.

134 mean Gene  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:50:57am

....but when did she first become proud of her country?
And.... nearly on topic.....when will the mainstream media notice that Barack only says things in regards ''this country,'' never "MY country?"

135 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:51:01am

re: #95 calcajun

No pre-plug shots exist - the glare burned the camera lens and fried the film emulsion.


Maybe here, can't see that well. It's his I have a high IQ rant.

136 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:51:06am

re: #85 Cicero05

Bill Whittle has a great analysis piece in NRO Online today about the potentially seismic implications that Sarah has for the Repubs. Well worth the read.

This is the first time in years that I feel proud and excited to be a Republican conservative.

Phenomenal piece - I too was very moved by McCain's testimony of his change of heart being for himself - then once broken - being for his country. I will vote for one of the most famous and deserving men in American history.

Obama - how does it feel to be a moose?

AND clean up your own backyard in Chicago- then we'll see if you deserve a promotion.

137 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:51:12am

re: #128 MandyManners

Philistine!

Is that a brand from "Palastine"? I prefer Evian from France !

138 Lively  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:51:42am

re: #126 Sharmuta

I heard Sarah Palin drinks tap water. Tap water?

It's water that the Feds listen to.

139 Old Buick Tanker  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:51:48am

re: #126 Sharmuta

I heard Sarah Palin drinks tap water. Tap water?

Water, by definition, is a clear, colorless, tasteless liquid.

Which is why I laugh so loudly when some Nancy-Boy tells me how good his bottled water tastes.

140 looking closely  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:52:09am

re: #135 newsjunkie_ky

Maybe here, can't see that well. It's his I have a high IQ rant.

What an arrogant POS.

141 Dr. Stu  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:52:26am

So what is the countdown on CNN citing this post from Kos as an intro for a story discussing Obama's insistence that be has a different name and looks different from other presidents?

142 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:52:54am

re: #100 Pullus Iulius

Delaware is actually quite nice. Nice beaches, a very rural feeling (away from Wilmington, at least). But, it's one of those states that should not really be a state.....come on....the county i live in is over 3x the size and has just under 4x the population. But, that does not seem to matter to the left....only Alaska's demographics matter.....

143 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:52:59am

re: #93 kuffar

Has the entire Democrat Party gone Revolutionary Communist?

No.

For a great number of these people, Revolutionary Communists are plain old pussies and aren't committed sufficiently to violence, domination and true revolution.

Which is why I wonder, in all their fervor, they support a wet sack like Obama, who will trade in any set of ideas for new ones, and old associations for new ones, any prior positions for new ones -- all in order to get elected.

They somehow think he is a Salafist-like true believer that will lie his way into power and then unleash the Revolution when there.

144 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:52:59am

re: #139 Old Buick Tanker

Water, by definition, is a clear, colorless, tasteless liquid.

Which is why I laugh so loudly when some Nancy-Boy tells me how good his bottled water tastes.

HEY ,,,, I drink bottled water ! (I do however fill the bottle from the tap,, amd I still a Nancy Boy ?)

145 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:53:06am

re: #134 mean Gene

....but when did she first become proud of her country?
And.... nearly on topic.....when will the mainstream media notice that Barack only says things in regards ''this country,'' never "MY country?"

"Our country" might be nice.

146 Lively  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:53:54am

I see in one of the sidebar stories that Nicholas Cage is paying the IRS more than $600,000. What are libs gonna do when their big O gets in office and raises taxes?

147 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:54:02am

re: #93 kuffar

Has the entire Democrat Party gone Revolutionary Communist?

I believe that Move0n.com once said that it owns the DNC, bought and paid for.

148 Age Of Freedom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:54:06am

"But but but ---
Rush Limbaugh is by far WORSE! AND WE DIDN'T EVEN MENTION BUSHITLER!1!"

/WDF

149 Syrah  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:54:13am

re: #126 Sharmuta

I heard Sarah Palin drinks tap water. Tap water?

I bet that she exposes her children to dihydrogen monoxide and that she she baths in hydroxyl acid as well.

The nerve of those dastardly Republicans for nominating such a person. Next thing you know, they might start talking about (shudders) soap!

150 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:54:19am

re: #132 MandyManners

Ahhh...a dream perhaps?!?!? Mandy the first to welcome me? I profess a certain weakness in my knees. ;)

151 esch  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:54:26am

re: #135 newsjunkie_ky

Maybe here, can't see that well. It's his I have a high IQ rant.

Heh.

I have a genius-plus IQ. I know plenty of people with genius range IQ's.

You, Senator, are no genius. STFU

152 Cognito  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:54:47am

re: #129 Ojoe

This instant eruption of vitriol floors me.

May these types be cast into the political wilderness for generations come November.

I think it's the anonymity that brings on the vitriol. It's the political equivalent of road rage: some unnamed angry dude doesn't care who's truly at fault, he's ticked and he's leaning on the horn.

153 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:54:47am

re: #139 Old Buick Tanker

Water, by definition, is a clear, colorless, tasteless liquid.

Which is why I laugh so loudly when some Nancy-Boy tells me how good his bottled water tastes.

If you can taste it....
It's because it's got something besides water it there......

154 lawhawk  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:54:56am

Interesting bit of nuance from Obama today on gun control and the Second Amendment.

The more he talks, the more contorted his positions become. He's quickly becoming incoherent on key issues like the US Constitution, his self-professed area of expertise.

155 Age Of Freedom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:55:00am

re: #146 Lively

I see in one of the sidebar stories that Nicholas Cage is paying the IRS more than $600,000. What are libs gonna do when their big 0 gets in office and raises taxes?

Fixed.

156 looking closely  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:55:20am

re: #139 Old Buick Tanker

Water, by definition, is a clear, colorless, tasteless liquid.

Which is why I laugh so loudly when some Nancy-Boy tells me how good his bottled water tastes.

The water itself is tasteless, but the minerals and other impurities dissolved in the water (eg chlorine, etc) impart its taste.

For example the name brand bottled waters usually have magnesium and other other minerals added to improve the taste.

Try the "Pepsi challenge" with Dasani or Poland Spring and pure distilled water, and you'll notice the difference.

157 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:55:22am

re: #122 MandyManners

LOL!

(Dagnabit! You beat me to the arugula joke!)

Touché -- you beat me to the use of "Dagnabit", by-crickey!

158 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:55:23am

re: #149 Syrah

I bet that she exposes her children to dihydrogen monoxide and that she she baths in hydroxyl acid as well.

The nerve of those dastardly Republicans for nominating such a person. Next thing you know, they might start talking about (shudders) soap!

I heard she uses Ivory soap. That proves she racist and hates elephants.

159 Lively  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:55:34am

re: #150 ZoomieMSgt

Ahhh...a dream perhaps?!?!? Mandy the first to welcome me? I profess a certain weakness in my knees. ;)


.....and a tingle on the leg.

160 kuffar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:55:39am

re: #145 David IV of Georgia

"Our country" might be nice.

I like Carl Schurz's quote.

Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right.

161 Lively  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:56:03am

re: #155 Age Of Freedom

Fixed.

lol

162 DeafDog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:56:17am

Sarah Palin turned me into a Newt!

163 lilliew  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:56:17am

Link is not working any more? Story is gone? I'm shocked! Kos never does that. /sarcasm

164 DeafDog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:56:33am

re: #162 DeafDog

Sarah Palin turned me into a Newt!

....I got better

165 Matt JM  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:56:39am

It appears that Kos has deleted that entry.

166 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:56:43am

re: #147 Dustyvet

I believe that Move0n.com once said that it owns the DNC, bought and paid for.

Moveon.org to Democratic Party: "we own it"

Loony left group, Moveon.org apparantly thinks that the Democratic party isn't left enough and feels that the "professional election losers" of the Democratic party had better listen to its "grassroots" supporters.

[Link: rightwingpundit.blogspot.com...]

167 looking closely  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:56:54am

re: #158 Sharmuta

I heard she uses Ivory soap. That proves she racist and hates elephants.

Walruses too.

By the way, I like Irish spring, though I'm not entirely clear on who that means I hate.

168 Old Buick Tanker  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:57:07am

re: #144 sattv4u2

HEY ,,,, I drink bottled water ! (I do however fill the bottle from the tap,, amd I still a Nancy Boy ?)


Nyaah, not at all. Now, if you're paying more for water than you do for gasoline....

;^)

169 kynna  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:57:30am

I want to see further investigation of Monagan (the safety commissioner fired in Troopergate). The timeline doesn't add up to his being fired over Wooten (the unfired trooper-jerk), so let's have a look at his record, shall we?

And apparently the librarian who was so 'victimized' by Palin's question was dating the police chief who was fired for lying to the city council. Oh. Another political unfriendly with a vendetta.

Even a cursory look at the people being quoted by the enemedia and spew-blogs shows you their motives are anything but pure. The timelines for so many of these things don't add up and yet they're still pushing this crap.

170 Metal Man  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:57:33am

Going to view the Daily Kos is like going to see the monkeys in the zoo. There the monkeys sit being fed by their keepers insulated from the bigger world. All they have left to entertain themselves is flinging poo and masturbation.

171 Syrah  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:57:33am

re: #158 Sharmuta

Somehow, I suspect that someone of them would be just loony enough to make that association and claim. The fringe left is really going off the deep end.

172 livefreeor die  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:57:51am

re: #90 DistantThunder

It is some sort of history/civics class, but she said he is being very demeaning towards Palin.

Do you live in PA? I think my son had the same teacher last year!

173 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:58:07am
Daily Kos: Palin is 'Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, and Mean'

Charles,
Brevity is vital in headline writing.

/just a suggestion

174 Sol Roth  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:58:08am

Ah, the Toilet-Pigs-In-Training Kos Kiddies. Always good a bout of derisive laughter.

175 stuiec  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:58:12am

This news story from the Presidential primaries is going around the trucker blogs and forums:

Posted: Dec. 20, 2007
IT AIN'T SO, JOE

By Celia Cohen
Grapevine Political Writer

If ever there was a crash that tugged at the heart of the entire state, it was the one that took the lives of Joe Biden’s wife and baby daughter and hospitalized his two toddler sons 35 years ago, just weeks after his precocious election to the U.S. Senate.

It was an unbearable turn of events, from one of the most daring political breakthroughs in Delaware political history to unspeakable grief, and there is no reason to make the accident appear worse than it was.

While campaigning in Iowa for the Democratic presidential nomination, however, Biden did.

“Let me tell you a little story,” he was quoted as saying last Friday in the New York Times.

“I got elected when I was 29, and I got elected November the 7th. And on December 18 of that year, my wife and three kids were Christmas shopping for a Christmas tree. A tractor-trailer, a guy who allegedly – and I never pursued it – drank his lunch instead of eating his lunch, broadsided my family and killed my wife instantly, and killed my daughter instantly, and hospitalized my two sons, with what were thought to be at the time permanent, fundamental injuries.”

Except there was no drinking. There was not even speeding. The truck’s brakes checked out, as well. It was not the driver’s fault.

Biden insisted Wednesday in a brief telephone interview from Iowa he told the story as he knew it.

“All I said was what I heard at the time. What I heard from folks at the time is he’d been drinking,” Biden said, sounding agitated. “I don’t want to talk about it. . . . She must have pulled out. . . . It’s still painful to talk about 35 years later.”

Somehow I think the truck drivers of America have more affinity for a woman who favors policies that will make diesel cheaper and more abundant than for a man who unnecessarily smears one of their own to make his tragic story even juicier.

176 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:58:26am

re: #165 Matt JM

It appears that Kos has deleted that entry.

Put out the PROPAGANDA, then delete it...interesting tactic

177 Guy_Montag  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:58:57am

They've been running this smear at DU since yesterday afternoon. It was only a matter of time before it showed at the KOS Pool.

178 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:59:05am

I heard Sarah Palin has never shopped at Ikea. She hates the Swedes.

179 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:59:28am

re: #107 sbvft contributor

you got a pic of that Red Star? ANy sickles?

The Red Star of communism was never accompanied by a sickle. Here you go -
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

The banners were all over the outside of the convention center in Denver - appeared on the news repeatedly. the bottom part of the banner had stylized mountains in various shades of blue, becoming lighter with each level, then a white area, topped by a large Red Star.

180 debutaunt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:59:55am

re: #158 Sharmuta

I heard she uses Ivory soap. That proves she racist and hates elephants.

hahahahahahhahahahahaa

181 HoosierHoops  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:00:03am

re: #127 ZoomieMSgt
Welcome Zoomie: It's great having you here

182 esch  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:00:09am

re: #176 Dustyvet

Put out the PROPAGANDA, then delete it...interesting tactic

They have yet to learn that 'Plausible Deniability' stopped working with the advent of the screenshot.

183 Lively  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:00:21am

re: #175 stuiec

Liberals think they control the truth and when you check it out and find out their story is false....it's too painful.

184 fishbob  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:00:24am

re: #93 kuffar

Has the entire Democrat Party gone Revolutionary Communist?

yes

185 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:00:26am

re: #140 looking closely

What an arrogant POS.

Hey - I have a high IQ too. That does not entitle me to the presidency.

186 DeafDog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:00:38am

re: #175 stuiec


Reminds me of the time that Hillary landed in Bosnia under sniper Fire.

187 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:00:49am

re: #174 Sol Roth

Ah, the Toilet-Pigs-In-Training Kos Kiddies. Always good a bout of derisive laughter.


A nice web site for the Kos Kids in training

[Link: www.goontarget.com...]

188 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:01:18am

re: #149 Syrah

I bet that she exposes her children to dihydrogen monoxide and that she she baths in hydroxyl acid as well.

The nerve of those dastardly Republicans for nominating such a person. Next thing you know, they might start talking about (shudders) soap!

I hear dihydrogen monoxide sometimes breaks down into hydroxide, a very reactive and dangerous chemical.

189 quickjustice  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:01:57am

re: #123 Syrah

A friend of mine who's a hunter in Colorado served me marinated Elk meat he'd killed himself. It was delicious! And fresh venison isn't bad either.

Florida alligator tastes like chicken, but you want the meat from young alligators. It's more tender.

190 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:02:28am

I heard Sarah Palin once hocked a loogie.

191 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:02:32am

re: #173 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I was so hoping you'd stop by...

MWAH!

192 Cognito  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:02:46am

The Obama is doing something sneaky today, by the way.

The campaign knows the smear tactics their side has employed against Gov. Palin have backfired in spectacular fashion. And they'd like a piece of that. So the Obama camp has broadcast a word of warning to their supporters around the country to be on the lookout for nasty smears from the McCain people, insinuating he's a crypto-Muslim.

It's devious. It will force the McCain camp respond and say, "No, we're not saying Obama is secretly Islamic..."

And voila, it's just a big ol' messy, muddy playing field where everyone is doing a nasty job of it, and -- hey! -- who even remembers who started this business about Palin, anyway?

193 Dahveed  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:02:58am

Way OT~

I ran across the video of Ronald Reagan's A Time For Choosing speech. It transcends time. Merely replace Cold War references with current enemies and this speech is still relevant. I'm certain this has been posted before and many of you have seen it. I just hope everyone has a chance to watch it again.

194 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:03:01am

re: #187 Dustyvet

A nice web site for the Kos Kids in training

[Link: www.goontarget.com...]

It's my potty and I'll cry if want to!


[Link: www.zazzle.com...]

195 kynna  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:03:23am

re: #175 stuiec

That is disgusting. Just like Edwards and the 'cancer-wife campaign'. There is no shame at all.

Tragic story. People make driving mistakes all the time and sometimes the consequences are beyond horrific, as in this case. It could be an opportunity for Joe to remind people to look carefully before pulling out, follow all the safety precautions you learned in driver's ed, etc. But instead he has to lie to make it bigger for political purposes.

It's like shooting a goose for a photo op. So gross.

196 Old Buick Tanker  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:03:26am

re: #156 looking closely

The water itself is tasteless, but the minerals and other impurities dissolved in the water (eg chlorine, etc) impart its taste.

For example the name brand bottled waters usually have magnesium and other other minerals added to improve the taste.

Try the "Pepsi challenge" with Dasani or Poland Spring and pure distilled water, and you'll notice the difference.


I know that about the minerals/taste - and I still maintain that paying a buck or more for 12oz of plain old water is just plain cosmopolitain silly. Unless, of course, you live somewhere like Roosevelt, MN - where there's enough iron in the water that it comes out of the tap brown...

Another thing about buying bottled water - what about all that evil plastic?

I like me water straight out of the tap, just like my beer. ;^)

197 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:03:36am

re: #191 goddessoftheclassroom

I was so hoping you'd stop by...

MWAH!

OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

198 realwest  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:03:40am

re: #93 kuffar
You ask

Has the entire Democrat Party gone Revolutionary Communist?

And I'd answer NO - not revolutionary yet.
Yeah, the Democrat Party is now so far Left Wing, that I refer to the party as the "Left" and party members as "Lefties". I don't do it to demean anyone who is a Jackson type of Democrat, but I haven't heard any real Democrats saying ANYTHING which would make me change my mind about the Left Party and Lefties.

199 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:03:51am

re: #181 HoosierHoops

Great to be here Hoops, and Lively....though Crissy Matthews may have tarnished the saying, you had it correct in one.

200 fishbob  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:04:02am

re: #165 Matt JM

It appears that Kos has deleted that entry.

I'll have to trust you on that. Ain't goin over there

201 JHW  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:04:07am

Ooh, The Republicans are going after the redneck vote and humiliating women by choosing Gov. Palin. She talks funny, too, according to this catty NY Times opinion piece.

Real people, the kind of people who will like and identify with Palin, they clearly believe, are smart, but not too smart, and don’t talk too well, dropping their “g”s, for example, and putting tough concepts like “vice president” in quotation marks.

“As for that ‘V.P.’ talk all the time … I tell ya, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me, What is it exactly that the ‘VP’ does every day?” Palin asked host Lawrence Kudlow on CNBC sometime before her nomination. “I’m used to bein’ very productive and workin’ real hard in an administration and we want to make sure that that ‘V.P.’ slot would be a fruitful type of position.

202 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:04:18am

re: #150 ZoomieMSgt

Ahhh...a dream perhaps?!?!? Mandy the first to welcome me? I profess a certain weakness in my knees. ;)

Need some smelling salts, dear?

203 esch  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:04:28am

Entry on Drudge:

"Swaziland Leader Criticized For Oppulant Lifestyle, Birthday..."

Oppulant?

Spellcheck dude..

204 livefreeor die  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:04:31am

re: #175 stuiec

This news story from the Presidential primaries is going around the trucker blogs and forums:

Somehow I think the truck drivers of America have more affinity for a woman who favors policies that will make diesel cheaper and more abundant than for a man who unnecessarily smears one of their own to make his tragic story even juicier.

I read something about this yesterday. The trucker has since died and his children are fighting this constant lie that he was drunk.

205 Dave the.....  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:04:36am

192 Cog, that is a very effective debating technic.

If you have screwed up, did something bad, you quickly accuse your opposition of doing the exact same thing. Then those who are only partly paying attention think, "yeah, both sides seem to be doing this".

206 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:04:38am

re: #175 stuiec

I am so LIVID over this story. KNOWING the facts yet distorting them for effect--and maligning an innocent man--is despicable.

207 Syrah  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:04:45am

re: #188 David IV of Georgia

I hear dihydrogen monoxide sometimes breaks down into hydroxide, a very reactive and dangerous chemical.

Damn! you are right. We must outlaw its use and possession right away (Starting with leftist only)!

208 Tom Kratman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:04:56am

"It’s not even worth debunking, but I’ll just point out that Palin’s husband is of Eskimo descent."

That's not dispositive of much of anything, Charles. One can like any given group and dislike others. It would be something like saying, "Nazis weren't racists; after all, they liked Norwegians." (And I can hardly wait for some maroon to shriek, "Kratman's defending Nazis.") More pointedly, it's like saying "Jeremiah Wright isn't a racist; he loves black folks."

I mentioned in the prior thread, this slur was a plain bald-faced lie. It also appear to have disappeared down the memory hole. Hope someone preserved it.

209 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:05:06am

re: #157 karmic_inquisitor

Touché -- you beat me to the use of "Dagnabit", by-crickey!

Now, that's one I've not seen in a while!

210 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:05:07am

re: #191 goddessoftheclassroom

yuck

211 Age Of Freedom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:05:32am

re: #192 Cognito

The Obama is doing something sneaky today, by the way.

The campaign knows the smear tactics their side has employed against Gov. Palin have backfired in spectacular fashion. And they'd like a piece of that. So the Obama camp has broadcast a word of warning to their supporters around the country to be on the lookout for nasty smears from the McCain people, insinuating he's a crypto-Muslim.

It's devious. It will force the McCain camp respond and say, "No, we're not saying Obama is secretly Islamic..."

And voila, it's just a big ol' messy, muddy playing field where everyone is doing a nasty job of it, and -- hey! -- who even remembers who started this business about Palin, anyway?

McCain handles everything far above the leftists seething crowds. Quite well.

212 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:05:52am

re: #201 JHW

Ooh, The Republicans are going after the redneck vote and humiliating women by choosing Gov. Palin. She talks funny, too, according to this catty NY Times opinion piece.

I've never dropped a "G" in my life...lost the pin to a hand grenade once...:)

213 SouthAmericanWay  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:05:53am

"Daily Kos: Palin is 'Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, and Mean' "

AND she gets the job done!

First: Unite her party. Check.

Second: Leave a good impression before Independents and moderate Democrats. Check.

Third: Undo the damage of the DNC bounce. Check. (Gallup tracking, still with one pre-Palin speech day, has Obama in a 2-point lead, down from 8 and 7 just two days ago.)

214 WindHorse  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:06:19am

re: #192 Cognito

what irony....

what happens every time a muslim commits an act of terror? CAIR, and the like, start whining and seething about all of the anti-muslim sentiment and how oppressed they are.

215 jorline  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:06:49am

re: #127 ZoomieMSgt

Oh, but you REALLY must visit. It is the duty of every patriot to confront and know the enemy, no matter the repulsive nature. Take Mikey Moore on Larry King last night, I could only watch in short bursts but I did my duty. Once again he used the bodies of dead soldiers (Iraq, Afghanistan) as sandbags to shield himself from hurricane Reality. I almost had to buy a TV in this hotel, I was so incensed at his response to the mention of the surge actually working.

Oh and hello one and all, this hatchling has been waiting long for his egg to crack! I'm honored to be among such hearty and brave centurions of truth.

Welcome young hatchling.

216 Cognito  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:06:56am

re: #211 Age Of Freedom

McCain handles everything far above the leftists seething crowds. Quite well.

This is a particularly transparent (and yet somehow effective) technique. Really old-school, dirty, rat-bleeping politics.

Change!

217 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:07:06am

re: #202 MandyManners

Just thrilled to be here Mandy! Hope I can live up to the privilege.

218 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:07:06am

re: #212 Dustyvet

I've never dropped a "G" in my life...lost the pin to a hand grenade once...:)

heh ... me too, kind of

219 Happy Fun Ball  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:07:06am

I've discovered quite a few things that she's done. And yes, some of them could be quite damning:


She ripped the tags off of matresses.

She does not close the cover before striking.

She has been seen running with scissors.

She once had an overdue library book.

She hangs the toilet paper in reverse direction.

She lathered and rinsed, but didn't repeat.

She squeezes the toothpaste tube in the middle.

She doesn't refill the ice cube trays when she uses them!

She double-dips her veggies, chips, and buffalo wings.

She didn't use Pace. Instead she used salsa that was made in New York City.

She drinks directly from the carton.

She used the cheat code to beat Contra.

She squeezed the Charmin.

220 Syrah  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:07:16am

re: #192 Cognito

The Obama is doing something sneaky today, by the way.

The campaign knows the smear tactics their side has employed against Gov. Palin have backfired in spectacular fashion. And they'd like a piece of that. So the Obama camp has broadcast a word of warning to their supporters around the country to be on the lookout for nasty smears from the McCain people, insinuating he's a crypto-Muslim.

It's devious. It will force the McCain camp respond and say, "No, we're not saying Obama is secretly Islamic..."

And voila, it's just a big ol' messy, muddy playing field where everyone is doing a nasty job of it, and -- hey! -- who even remembers who started this business about Palin, anyway?

That horse has already been beat to death. If the Obamatons try to resurrect it, it will make them look juvenile and petty in a "He hit me back first!" kind of way.

221 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:07:20am

re: #192 Cognito

The Obama is doing something sneaky today, by the way.

The campaign knows the smear tactics their side has employed against Gov. Palin have backfired in spectacular fashion. And they'd like a piece of that. So the Obama camp has broadcast a word of warning to their supporters around the country to be on the lookout for nasty smears from the McCain people, insinuating he's a crypto-Muslim.

It's devious. It will force the McCain camp respond and say, "No, we're not saying Obama is secretly Islamic..."

And voila, it's just a big ol' messy, muddy playing field where everyone is doing a nasty job of it, and -- hey! -- who even remembers who started this business about Palin, anyway?

Nah - McCain is too smart to bite on that one. That "rumor" has been around for months and many, many people have addressed the issue.

222 BaseballMom57  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:07:21am

re: #58 jharada

Well I have not seen any Rev. "GD America" Wright or Will"I didn't do enough"Ayres in there, soooooo
all I have to say is this

Obama v the SnowWoman...

That video was hilarious! Thanks for the link!

223 Old Buick Tanker  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:07:27am

re: #178 Sharmuta

I heard Sarah Palin has never shopped at Ikea. She hates the Swedes.

No, no , no...she loves Sweden, it has møøse.

Wi nøt trei a høliday in Sweden this yer?
See the løveli lakes
The wonderful telephøne system
And mani interesting furry animals
Including the majestic møøse
224 yma o hyd  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:07:38am

re: #154 lawhawk

Interesting bit of nuance from Obama today on gun control and the Second Amendment.

The more he talks, the more contorted his positions become. He's quickly becoming incoherent on key issues like the US Constitution, his self-professed area of expertise.

Quote from that link to illustrate your point:
'My take on this is that Obama was trying too hard to convince people and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, in a rhetorical sense. All he needed was a categorical denial, and he should have left it at that.'

So-called 'intelligent' people never seem to grasp the fact that the longer they talk and explain what they mean, the deeper they get themselves into the doo-doo ...

225 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:07:38am

re: #136 DistantThunder

Phenomenal piece - I too was very moved by McCain's testimony of his change of heart being for himself - then once broken - being for his country. I will vote for one of the most famous and deserving men in American history.

Obama - how does it feel to be a moose?

AND clean up your own backyard in Chicago- then we'll see if you deserve a promotion.

GREAT link.
Upding.

226 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:07:39am

re: #127 ZoomieMSgt

Welcome to Lizard Heaven

227 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:08:07am

re: #162 DeafDog

Sarah Palin turned me into a Newt!

You got better!

228 livefreeor die  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:08:24am

re: #216 Cognito

This is a particularly transparent (and yet somehow effective) technique. Really old-school, dirty, rat-bleeping politics.

Change!

Yes, they're pulling out the "Chicago machine politics for dummies" manual. They seem more and more panicked every day.

229 Celtic Templar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:08:29am

re: #192 Cognito

That has "backfire" written all over it ... Obama go for it.

231 looking closely  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:08:52am

re: #175 stuiec


re: #185 galloping granny

Hey - I have a high IQ too. That does not entitle me to the presidency.

Genius-level IQ is neither sufficient nor necessary.

Stipulating that its true (and I don't know that it is), Biden having a high IQ is nice, but bragging about it still makes him an arrogant windbag. The last thing we need is a leader who thinks he's smarter than everyone around him.

232 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:08:59am

re: #166 Dustyvet

Moveon.org to Democratic Party: "we own it"

Loony left group, Moveon.org apparantly thinks that the Democratic party isn't left enough and feels that the "professional election losers" of the Democratic party had better listen to its "grassroots" supporters.

[Link: rightwingpundit.blogspot.com...]

And, its daddy is Soros.

233 Age Of Freedom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:09:02am

re: #177 Guy_Montag

They've been running this smear at DU since yesterday afternoon. It was only a matter of time before it showed at the KOS Pool.

Damn, what a pit.

234 realwest  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:09:20am

re: #212 Dustyvet
Hey there!

I've never dropped a "G" in my life...lost the pin to a hand grenade once...:)

Is that why they call you "Lefty" now?!

That's ok, I was once so scared I threw two hand grenades and forgot to pull the pins! LOL!

235 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:09:47am

OT

The strike is on at Boeing
Airplane production comes to a halt

Although its order books are full of planes to build for eager customers around the world, The Boeing Co. was shutting down its jetliner production in the Puget Sound area as its biggest union hit the picket lines early Saturday morning.

It is the fourth strike in two decades against Boeing by the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, arguably the most powerful manufacturing union left in the U.S.

236 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:10:02am
237 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:10:23am

Caught a few minutes of the good Senator O'Piss & Moan this morning.

"John McCain is trying steal my change".....

Ahhhh..

238 kuffar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:10:29am

re: #208 Tom Kratman

Now. If we could just have the Posleen invade the blue states, we'd be okay.

239 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:10:29am

re: #224 yma o hyd

Quote from that link to illustrate your point:
'My take on this is that Obama was trying too hard to convince people and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, in a rhetorical sense. All he needed was a categorical denial, and he should have left it at that.'

So-called 'intelligent' people never seem to grasp the fact that the longer they talk and explain what they mean, the deeper they get themselves into the doo-doo ...

A sure sign the guy does not play chess and probably loses at poker.

240 BackwardsBoy  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:10:37am

re: #7 galloping granny

See how easy it is to detect the truth about a situation?

McCain has proved himself to me to be very prescient. He had to have known this was coming, and so did Sarah. By delaying Palin's pick until the last minute, he let the country see the all the bias in the legacy media in a stunning way. If this election doesn't fully discredit the MSM, I will be surprised. Hell, when a tabloid rag like US magazine it teetering, how much more would it take before the Gray Lady gets her welcomed retirement?

241 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:10:41am

re: #234 realwest

Hey there!

Is that why they call you "Lefty" now?!

That's ok, I was once so scared I threw two hand grenades and forgot to pull the pins! LOL!

LOL, and the the Drill Instructor then said?...:)

242 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:10:49am

re: #226 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Welcome to Lizard Heaven

Thank you so much. A Marine gave me my nic back about 20 years ago...not the MSgt part..that took about 14 more years. ;)

243 mean Gene  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:11:08am

re: #175 stuiec

I have read an account by the man who was in charge of the investigation....he is now retired and sitting as a judge somewhere else.
He said there was NO alcohol or drugs in the truck drivers' system and that the truck was in excellent working condition, includint the brakes.
The truck driver said, in his police report, that the woman driver was facing away from oncoming traffic as she came into the intersection.
He had nowhere to go and no time to react.
He doubted she ever saw his truck as she was looking at somethin in another direction.
Biden KNOWS this and has known it for years!]
He still prefers the lie.

244 calcajun  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:11:40am

re: #178 Sharmuta

I heard Sarah Palin has never shopped at Ikea. She hates the Swedes.

No--she hates Allen wrenches and cheap-shit furniture. It's a shame that a civilization which once ranged over oceans and continents, which was feared and the very mention of its name caused whole towns to flee screaming to the hills has been reduced to making furniture.

245 livefreeor die  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:11:44am

re: #230 kham

OT:

Seems they couldn't fit that flag burning ceremony into the agenda at the DNC

I saw that on another site. It's disgusting-their view of their country's flag is that it's a prop until the television cameras go away. They could have contacted the American Legion or the Boy Scouts who would have taken care of the flags when they were done with them. Of course, that would require them to know about the American Legion and Boy Scouts.

246 yma o hyd  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:11:48am

re: #191 goddessoftheclassroom

I was so hoping you'd stop by...

MWAH!

Ye crack me up, goddess!

247 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:11:55am

re: #190 Sharmuta

I heard Sarah Palin once hocked a loogie.

You mean she's a hocker mom, too?

248 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:12:02am

re: #237 The Shadow Do

Caught a few minutes of the good Senator O'Piss & Moan this morning.

"John McCain is trying steal my change".....

Ahhhh..

ROFLMAO. . . . . Sorry there Barry. A little girl from Alaska tripped lightly onto the stage followed by a gaggle of children and snatched CHANGE right out from under your nose before you could even say "honey." Days late, dollars short Obama.

249 Age Of Freedom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:12:03am

re: #237 The Shadow Do

Caught a few minutes of the good Senator O'Piss & Moan this morning.

"John McCain is trying steal my change".....

Ahhhh..

link?
That'd be entertainment.

250 JHW  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:12:09am

re: #212 Dustyvet

Heh, good one. That must be a Northwest and Alaska thing, dropping the "g", that's the way everyone talks around here, and I know i drop my "g", everyone else has an accent, I don't. Funny story a guy I used to work with from North Carolina, I thought he had a pure Deep South accent, he went back to N.C. to settle a family property dispute that ended in him being arrested. I about died when I was shown newspapers from his hometown that described him as having "a deep Washington accent". I didn't know there was such a thing.

251 realwest  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:12:13am

re: #241 Dustyvet
I wish it HAD been on a practice range - no this was the real deal!
/made up for it with my M-16, though.

252 Talking Stick  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:12:22am

It is encouraging that the public may be increasingly wary of getting factual and unbiased opinion from the Drivebys, but that doesn't mean they will stop being a bully pulpit for left wing neanderthal Jacobin loud mouths who get their propaganda talking points [emoticons] from such gutter venues as DKos and DemU. I am cynical about change, and only see this happening when the baby boomers increasingly die off and the glory of Marx becomes a postscript. Tiresome as it may seem, exposing the 'rage' at every turn is the only way to keep the poison in check - kind of like obedience training for fido!

253 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:12:24am
254 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:12:29am

re: #246 yma o hyd

Ye crack me up, goddess!

I'm so glad!

This banter with pre-Boomer Marine brat is one of the highlights of my day!

255 WindHorse  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:12:29am

re: #244 calcajun

No--she hates Allen wrenches and cheap-shit furniture. It's a shame that a civilization which once ranged over oceans and continents, which was feared and the very mention of its name caused whole towns to flee screaming to the hills has been reduced to making CHEAP-SHIT furniture.

256 Guy_Montag  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:12:31am

re: #233 Age Of Freedom

Damn, what a pit.

Yep, I keep an eye on the DU Nest whenever I log-on. 1/2 these smears germinate and fester in that kiddie-pool.

257 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:12:46am

re: #192 Cognito

The Obama is doing something sneaky today, by the way.

The campaign knows the smear tactics their side has employed against Gov. Palin have backfired in spectacular fashion. And they'd like a piece of that. So the Obama camp has broadcast a word of warning to their supporters around the country to be on the lookout for nasty smears from the McCain people, insinuating he's a crypto-Muslim.

It's devious. It will force the McCain camp respond and say, "No, we're not saying Obama is secretly Islamic..."

And voila, it's just a big ol' messy, muddy playing field where everyone is doing a nasty job of it, and -- hey! -- who even remembers who started this business about Palin, anyway?

Link?

258 HoosierHoops  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:13:02am

re: #215 jorline

Hey Jorline! did you see that jordank got banned yesterday?
Charles said he was a 6 time sockpuppet....
What a jerk..
How are you today bro?

259 gearhead  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:13:02am

re: #201 JHW

I live in the South. Ground's littered with "g"s.

Elitists aren't more intelligent, they're just elitists.

260 Cognito  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:13:13am

re: #231 looking closely

re: #185 galloping granny

Genius-level IQ is neither sufficient nor necessary.

Stipulating that its true (and I don't know that it is), Biden having a high IQ is nice, but bragging about it still makes him an arrogant windbag.

I've had the real pleasure (and pure luck) of knowing some very, very smart people. World-class intellects who changed the world. And not one of them, that I can recall, ever mentioned his IQ.

261 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:13:54am

re: #209 MandyManners

Now, that's one I've not seen in a while!

are you guys whippersnappers?

262 looking closely  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:14:03am

re: #243 mean Gene


Biden KNOWS this and has known it for years!]
He still prefers the lie.

Its a politically expedient lie, better than going around saying his deceased wife was responsible for the accident that killed herself and hurt her two little kids.

Where is the renewed media interest in Biden's repeated plagiarism and other blatant lies about himself?

Don't people remember that he had to end a Presidential bid over this a few years back?

263 livefreeor die  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:14:14am

re: #243 mean Gene

I have read an account by the man who was in charge of the investigation....he is now retired and sitting as a judge somewhere else.
He said there was NO alcohol or drugs in the truck drivers' system and that the truck was in excellent working condition, includint the brakes.
The truck driver said, in his police report, that the woman driver was facing away from oncoming traffic as she came into the intersection.
He had nowhere to go and no time to react.
He doubted she ever saw his truck as she was looking at somethin in another direction.
Biden KNOWS this and has known it for years!]
He still prefers the lie.

And if you try to ask him about it, he says it's too painful to talk about about. I'm sure it's unbearably painful for him but if he's going to bring it up, he should answer the questions.

264 realwest  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:14:14am

re: #258 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops! I didn't see that - who's sockpuppet was he?!

265 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:14:23am

re: #154 lawhawk

Interesting bit of nuance from Obama today on gun control and the Second Amendment.

The more he talks, the more contorted his positions become. He's quickly becoming incoherent on key issues like the US Constitution, his self-professed area of expertise.

“If you’ve got a gun in your house, I’m not taking it,’’ Obama said.

Of course, I'll make it impossible for anyone to get a NEW gun. And you want AMMO, too, eh? Well, we'll have to see about that.

266 Syrah  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:14:24am

re: #244 calcajun

No--she hates Allen wrenches and cheap-shit furniture. It's a shame that a civilization which once ranged over oceans and continents, which was feared and the very mention of its name caused whole towns to flee screaming to the hills has been reduced to making furniture.

Think of it another way. The swedes have managed to figure out how to raid and loot the far flung peoples of the world with pasteboard instead of the sword. Kind of clever really.

267 Tom Kratman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:14:27am

re: #221 galloping granny

Nah - McCain is too smart to bite on that one. That "rumor" has been around for months and many, many people have addressed the issue.

You know, there's an interesting sidelight to this. I'm reasonably sure B. Hussein Obama is not and never has been a committed Muslim. Such faith would, after all, interfere with the worship of himself. That said, sundry and various Muslims in the middle east may well think that he really, truly, and legally (via Sharia) was Muslim. After all, it doesn't take much. If he'd ever said in that Indonesian school where they registered him as a Muslim, "La ilaha, illa Allah; Mohamedan rasulu Allah," then he was in, as far as they're concerned.

So how do they have diplomatic dealings with someone they might well consider an apostate?

268 DeafDog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:14:35am

re: #192 Cognito

The Obama is doing something sneaky today, by the way.

The campaign knows the smear tactics their side has employed against Gov. Palin have backfired in spectacular fashion. And they'd like a piece of that. So the Obama camp has broadcast a word of warning to their supporters around the country to be on the lookout for nasty smears from the McCain people, insinuating he's a crypto-Muslim.

It's devious. It will force the McCain camp respond and say, "No, we're not saying Obama is secretly Islamic..."

And voila, it's just a big ol' messy, muddy playing field where everyone is doing a nasty job of it, and -- hey! -- who even remembers who started this business about Palin, anyway?

It might also be that he's trying to counter this story circulating this morning that Obama had connections to the Saudis when he was in his twenties...

Who paid for Obama's Law schooling

Smells funny, but 20 year old memories are not always accurate.

269 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:14:38am

re: #259 gearhead

I live in the South. Ground's littered with "g"s.

Elitists aren't more intelligent, they're just elitists.

I absolutely HATE it when people sneer at others for their accents. Regional accents are not matters of choice or education. Use of standard English, to a certain degree, is.

270 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:14:44am

re: #224 yma o hyd

Quote from that link to illustrate your point:
'My take on this is that Obama was trying too hard to convince people and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, in a rhetorical sense. All he needed was a categorical denial, and he should have left it at that.'

So-called 'intelligent' people never seem to grasp the fact that the longer they talk and explain what they mean, the deeper they get themselves into the doo-doo ...

....favored measures in big cities to keep guns out of the hands of “gang bangers and drug dealers’’ in big cities “who already have them and are shooting people.” (BHO)

Barry, given that criminals have and will continue to get guns. How 'bout law abiding citizens having the means to protect themselves? (psst. Barry that's ones in the Constitution.)

271 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:14:49am

re: #256 Guy_Montag

Yep, I keep an eye on the DU Nest whenever I log-on. 1/2 these smears germinate and fester in that public bath-house.

Haven't figured out how to cross out the original wording, just fixed it for ya. ;)

272 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:14:52am

re: #246 yma o hyd

Ye crack me up, goddess!

And she burns my butt!

273 Age Of Freedom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:14:57am

I think we should post several counter-smears that the left-wing loves the Palestinian terrorist groups and the Islamiac borg as a whole, just to screw with them.

Oh wait a minute.

274 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:15:02am

re: #205 Dave the.....

192 Cog, that is a very effective debating technic.

If you have screwed up, did something bad, you quickly accuse your opposition of doing the exact same thing. Then those who are only partly paying attention think, "yeah, both sides seem to be doing this".

That's why sometimes it's best not to get involved in a particular aspect of the shit-throwing contest.

275 calcajun  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:15:05am

re: #255 WindHorse

Thanks. I just did not want to be repetitive.

276 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:15:10am

re: #249 Age Of Freedom

link?
That'd be entertainment.

sorry, no link - just the general thrust of his stump speech this am on TV - very sour about McCain's reform message. I hope he repeats it. Really funny.

277 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:15:49am

re: #272 pre-Boomer Marine brat

And she burns my butt!

Awwwwww, poor thing!

278 mean Gene  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:15:50am

Fox News is showing the flags and telling the story.
It is quite a sight!
Oh, and if anyone at the McCain rally cannot keep their flag it can be collected and placed at a veteran's grave.

279 calcajun  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:16:20am

re: #266 Syrah

Think of it another way. The swedes have managed to figure out how to raid and loot the far flung peoples of the world with pasteboard instead of the sword. Kind of clever really.

Yeah, but the Vikings never cared a damn for customer service. Come to think of it, neither does Ikea.

280 Cognito  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:16:25am

re: #257 MandyManners

Nope. Just a little birdie.

You'll probably see out there soon, though.

281 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:16:29am

re: #254 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm so glad!

This banter with pre-Boomer Marine brat is one of the highlights of my day!

I will send you the bills from the ER and psychiatrist.
*sniffle*
*whimper*

282 Tom Kratman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:16:35am

re: #238 kuffar

Now. If we could just have the Posleen invade the blue states, we'd be okay.


Well....they wouldn't stop there, you see...

283 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:16:56am

re: #260 Cognito

I've had the real pleasure (and pure luck) of knowing some very, very smart people. World-class intellects who changed the world. And not one of them, that I can recall, ever mentioned his IQ.

That is because "IQ" really is not a guarantee of anything at all, other than that you did well once on a specific test. Not a predictor of success at any given endeavor by a long shot and not even consistent from test to test. (There are several "IQ" tests. It is not uncommon to see individuals do well on one and not quite that well on some other test.)

284 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:17:05am

re: #208 Tom Kratman

"It’s not even worth debunking, but I’ll just point out that Palin’s husband is of Eskimo descent."

That's not dispositive of much of anything, Charles. One can like any given group and dislike others. It would be something like saying, "Nazis weren't racists; after all, they liked Norwegians." (And I can hardly wait for some maroon to shriek, "Kratman's defending Nazis.") More pointedly, it's like saying "Jeremiah Wright isn't a racist; he loves black folks."

I mentioned in the prior thread, this slur was a plain bald-faced lie. It also appear to have disappeared down the memory hole. Hope someone preserved it.

KRATMAN'S DEFENDING NAZIS!

*ahem*

The article in LA Progressive is here.

[Link: www.laprogressive.com...]

285 HoosierHoops  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:17:13am

re: #264 realwest

Hey Hoops! I didn't see that - who's sockpuppet was he?!

IIRC everyone of his nics started with a J...
I'll have to look at the thread charles posted at...

286 kuffar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:17:17am

re: #282 Tom Kratman

I think Democrats give them Gas.

287 livefreeor die  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:17:23am

They threw out the flags but I bet they recycled those freaking Greek columns.

288 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:17:25am

re: #265 Occasional Reader

Of course, I'll make it impossible for anyone to get a NEW gun. And you want AMMO, too, eh? Well, we'll have to see about that.

Heck, they some 'crat tried to sneak through a re-classification of ammo as high explosive which would have made sales and storage of ammo virtually impossible.

289 calcajun  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:18:19am

re: #287 livefreeor die

They threw out the flags but I bet they recycled those freaking Greek columns.

Probably be used in some Hannah Montana video. Or a porn flick.

290 Age Of Freedom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:18:34am

re: #276 The Shadow Do

sorry, no link - just the general thrust of his stump speech this am on TV - very sour about McCain's reform message. I hope he repeats it. Really funny.

Change!™

291 kynna  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:18:35am

I'm sure someone's already posted this, but it's a great list of debunked smears.
Palin-Rumors

I want to find a comprehensive list of the abhorrent links Obama is proven to have. Have any of the bloggers made such a list?

292 Tom Kratman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:18:43am

re: #284 MandyManners

KRATMAN'S DEFENDING NAZIS!

*ahem*

The article in LA Progressive is here.

[Link: www.laprogressive.com...]

Damn, and I was enjoying the suspense of waiting.

It's the other one that disappeared, the one on Kos.

Best,

Your friendly neighborhood Euro.

Ahem.

293 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:19:01am

re: #257 MandyManners

Link?

Try the City of Chicago or Cook County Web sites...:)

294 dkiddoo  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:19:11am

Just went over to read the story on DKos and it has 'gone down the memory hole'. After seeing this and reading on Michellemalkin.com about a fake banned book list from Palin, I can't help but smile and bask in our imminent victory! The left is so scared now that they have given up even trying to be partially truthful and are now throwing outright lies at her just hoping something will stick. These people are despicable, classless scum!

295 HDrepub  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:19:19am

re: #89 Desert Dog

I heard they have a Wal-Mart big box store in Delaware now! I wonder if Joe Biden inflicted that upon his constituents?

Wal-Mart has at least nine stores in Delaware. My list isn't current.

296 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:19:26am

re: #277 goddessoftheclassroom

Awwwwww, poor thing!

ROFLMAO!

MWAH!

297 Cognito  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:20:34am

re: #283 galloping granny

Exactly so. Consider me, for example. I've got an IQ of 972, and I never get no respect 'round here.

298 livefreeor die  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:20:51am

One thing that did get somewhat lost in the shuffle this past week was the ongoing saga of Obama and Ayers excellent adventure. If the press wants something with actual information to back it up, they should go back to looking at that.

299 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:20:59am

re: #287 livefreeor die

They threw out the flags but I bet they recycled those freaking Greek columns.

The Greek Columns where divided up between Hanoi John Kerry, and screaming Howard Dean.

300 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:21:01am

re: #267 Tom Kratman

You know, there's an interesting sidelight to this. I'm reasonably sure B. Hussein Obama is not and never has been a committed Muslim. Such faith would, after all, interfere with the worship of himself. That said, sundry and various Muslims in the middle east may well think that he really, truly, and legally (via Sharia) was Muslim. After all, it doesn't take much. If he'd ever said in that Indonesian school where they registered him as a Muslim, "La ilaha, illa Allah; Mohamedan rasulu Allah," then he was in, as far as they're concerned.

So how do they have diplomatic dealings with someone they might well consider an apostate?

Actually, Obama repeated the shahada on national television during the same interview where he declared it to be the most beautiful sound in the world. That is why so many have referred to him speaking Arabic - quite good Arabic.

From everything I have read, the Muslim world considers Obama to be muslim, not a muslim apostate.

301 JHW  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:21:04am

re: #288 jcm

I'm not 100% positive on this, but I think some years ago Ted Kennedy proposed a very, very high excise tax on ammo and reloading supplies that would have made it financially crippling to buy more than a very few rounds of ammo.

302 DeafDog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:21:28am

re: #240 BackwardsBoy


McCain has proved himself to me to be very prescient.

I agree that the media slime machine has backfired, but if McCain called this beforehand, I'll eat my hat. Remember, he actually canceled a CNN interview (a softball session with Larry King) because he was pissed.

He got lucky, but sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.

303 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:21:54am

FYI
FNC is doing an hour long profile on Sarah Palin tonight and tomorrow night at 8pm EDT and I think repeated at 11pm EDT.

304 realwest  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:21:55am

re: #297 Cognito
Hah! You only beat me by one point, which was, no doubt, a lucky guess on your part! LOL!

305 livefreeor die  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:22:26am

re: #299 Dustyvet

The Greek Columns where divided up between Hanoi John Kerry, and screaming Howard Dean.

What, none for Algore and his manbearpig temple? He won a Nobel Prize you know.

306 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:22:31am

re: #291 kynna

I'm sure someone's already posted this, but it's a great list of debunked smears.
Palin-Rumors

I want to find a comprehensive list of the abhorrent links Obama is proven to have. Have any of the bloggers made such a list?

The most important thing.....
Chuck Norris is scared of Sarah Palin!
;-P

307 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:22:47am

re: #261 jwb7605

are you guys whippersnappers?

Does that mean we snap our whips or whip our snaps?

308 Austin Conservative  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:23:16am

I heard a waitress in Denver say that Barack Obama likes to sodomize his daughters and beat Michelle Obama with a coat hanger when he is on his cocaine, vodka, and marijuana binges.

Claims of a waitress like these need to be investigated due to the seriousness of the charges.

It's time for the National Enquirer to jump into action. DNA swabs, Rape Kits, and drug tests for everyone.

309 WindHorse  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:23:53am

The Villages...

just a sampling of someone who thinks highly of himself.

310 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:23:57am

Hello, just had a little fun at the bottom of the Dead Thread two back and saw the world has moved on. Anything going on? Russians committing any new outrages? Obama caught with friends of Kim Jong Il and bags of cash yet?

311 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:23:59am

I heard Sarah Palin doesn't even know any crackheads. I mean, Alaska? Alaska?!

312 realwest  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:24:03am

re: #307 MandyManners
Hey

Does that mean we snap our whips or whip our snaps?

Ain't nobody gonna whip my snap! Ah, no wait, that didn't come out quite the way I meant it.
Ah, nevermind!

313 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:24:06am

re: #305 livefreeor die

What, none for Algore and his manbearpig temple? He won a Nobel Prize you know.

Hanoi Kerry needed a place to hang his Purple Hearts...

314 livefreeor die  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:24:22am

re: #308 Austin Conservative

I heard a waitress in Denver say that Barack Obama likes to sodomize his daughters and beat Michelle Obama with a coat hanger when he is on his cocaine, vodka, and marijuana binges.

Claims of a waitress like these need to be investigated due to the seriousness of the charges.

It's time for the National Enquirer to jump into action. DNA swabs, Rape Kits, and drug tests for everyone.

Wow, an unnamed waitress at an unnamed restaurant in Philadelphia told me the same thing.

We have two sources now-next stop, the cover of USmagazine.

315 DeafDog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:24:25am

re: #269 goddessoftheclassroom

I absolutely HATE it when people sneer at others for their accents. Regional accents are not matters of choice or education. Use of standard English, to a certain degree, is.


You sure do write funny

:-)

316 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:24:43am
As someone who is neither a McCain nor an Obama supporter, I watched it — as I did Obama’s — looking for something to hook me. While his delivery left a great deal to be desired, the speech helped many of us skeptics look at McCain differently; not as the crazy in a Dr. Strangelove way that some of us viewed him in the past, but as someone who really could change the way things are done in Washington. We saw John McCain the man, not the POW, not the maverick, just a soft-spoken guy with some big ideas — pretty good ones. I may not be completely sold, but he did stir up something within me with that last few minutes, something I have not felt in four years: a passion for my country and a desire to, dare I say it, effect change.

I thank John McCain for that bit of awakening. I call this speech a win in that it had the opposite effect of what I thought it would; instead of putting me to sleep, it woke me up. Whether the rest of the undecided feel the same way remains to be seen.


[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

Not to sound hokey, but I have been thinking "country first" since I heard his speech.
And really thinking about it.

317 yma o hyd  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:25:06am

re: #244 calcajun

No--she hates Allen wrenches and cheap-shit furniture. It's a shame that a civilization which once ranged over oceans and continents, which was feared and the very mention of its name caused whole towns to flee screaming to the hills has been reduced to making furniture.

Yeah - but the arrival of said furniture, in a certain store, has whole towns flee screaming to the hills again!
One look at one of their manuals is quite quite sufficient for that.

318 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:25:08am

re: #5 Sharmuta

"Racist, Sexist, Vindictive and Mean"- sounds like they're describing the media and left.

Sounds like they don't know the difference between a mirror and window.

319 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:25:13am

re: #280 Cognito

Nope. Just a little birdie.

You'll probably see out there soon, though.

I'll probably miss it until I read about it here.

320 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:25:14am

re: #297 Cognito

Exactly so. Consider me, for example. I've got an IQ of 972, and I never get no respect 'round here.

ROFLMAO!

321 chicagodudewhotrades  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:25:25am

re: #208 Tom Kratman

Are you really this Tom Kratman?:

[Link: www.tomkratman.com...]


If you are, I loved your humor story about the Ted Kennedy/ boris yeltsin drinking contest

322 Dammits Dad  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:25:26am

re: #127 ZoomieMSgt

Welcome, I hope you will post often.

323 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:25:28am

There's a glitch with the deletion of the "sambo/bitch" diary. The link says it was deleted but if you click on the comments button the story pops up.

324 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:25:54am

re: #287 livefreeor die

They threw out the flags but I bet they recycled those freaking Greek columns.

If he wins, they'll use him for his coronation...er...I mean, innauguration.

325 BaseballMom57  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:26:04am

re: #85 Cicero05

Bill Whittle has a great analysis piece in NRO Online today about the potentially seismic implications that Sarah has for the Repubs. Well worth the read.

This is the first time in years that I feel proud and excited to be a Republican conservative.

Wow. I just read that piece and I'm in tears, literally. I listened to McCain's speech and I feared it was delivered badly. After reading this article, I found the actual text on his website. It was, and is, incredibly moving.

I don't want to offend anyone by getting all "religious" on you, but I pray several times a day that God will move the hands of the votors in the direction of McCain/Palin, and they will have the strength to push that button/pull that lever/punch that chad. If we win strong, I think the Democratic party will implode. I will welcome Democrat gack in my hair.

326 livefreeor die  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:26:06am

re: #323 Killgore Trout

There's a glitch with the deletion of the "sambo/bitch" diary. The link says it was deleted but if you click on the comments button the story pops up.

Double Heh!

Go get some screen shots fast, people!

327 nyc redneck  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:26:36am

amazing how admiral decent qualities in a person scare the crap out of libs.
we have a winner in sarah palin and they are losing their minds.

328 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:26:46am

re: #292 Tom Kratman

Damn, and I was enjoying the suspense of waiting.

It's the other one that disappeared, the one on Kos.

Best,

Your friendly neighborhood Euro.

Ahem.

LOL! If I recollect correctly, I gave you a rough time ages ago. I apologize.

329 Cognito  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:26:57am

re: #319 MandyManners

I'll probably miss it until I read about it here.

Here you go. It's trickling out:

Obama insists on debunking non-existent smear.

330 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:27:26am

In case it does get completely deleted it's been cross posted to the koskidz blog.....
"So Sambo Beat The Bitch" - Sarah Palin...

331 yma o hyd  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:27:28am

re: #254 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm so glad!

This banter with pre-Boomer Marine brat is one of the highlights of my day!

And I thoroughly enjoy following it!

(Thanks for letting us share it!)

332 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:27:31am

re: #297 Cognito

Exactly so. Consider me, for example. I've got an IQ of 972, and I never get no respect 'round here.

Is that all? Heck, I got me one of 272.

333 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:27:40am

bbiab

334 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:27:50am

re: #299 Dustyvet

The Greek Columns where divided up between Hanoi John Kerry, and screaming Howard Dean.

Those were not Greek columns. That stage was a mockup of the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin. I happened across an illustration of a Nazi rally in 38 or 39 at the Brandenburg in a book I was reviewing, went and looked at pictures of the same on Yahoo from then and now. Brandenburg Gate without a doubt.

You might recall that this was where Obama wanted to give his World Tour speech ala JFK, but the mean, nasty Germans wouldn't let him.

335 bushleague  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:27:50am

Late to the thread. Kos linky down the memory hole.... For how long?

336 mean Gene  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:27:52am

Too bad this came out too late for O'Reilly to use:
Barack Obama — Magna Cum Saudi?
[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, from Texas, the principal adviser to one of the world's richest men, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, told Percy Sutton, former Manhattan borough president and a credible candidate for mayor of New York in 1977, about Obama.
He asked Sutton to write the letter to Harvard getting 0bama in.
He was pulling together the money for Harvard for 0bama, too.

After establishing Khalid's radical bonafides, the article concludes:

What did this radical extremist see in young Barack Obama that he would seek to sponsor and perhaps finance Obama's education? Obama says he paid his way solely through student loans. How did they meet? Where did the money he raised come from? Now that we know who the father of Bristol Palin's baby is, maybe the mainstream media will have time to find out.
337 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:28:04am

re: #323 Killgore Trout

There's a glitch with the deletion of the "sambo/bitch" diary. The link says it was deleted but if you click on the comments button the story pops up.

Dammit! Must have been just momentary. It's not doing that now.

338 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:28:42am

re: #322 Dammits Dad

Welcome, I hope you will post often.

Often as I can friend. Thank you very much for the welcome.

I'm probably going to watch more than post for a time. Its better to be quiet an be thought an idiot than post and prove it beyond doubt. ::chuckles::

339 livefreeor die  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:28:45am

re: #334 galloping granny

Those were not Greek columns. That stage was a mockup of the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin. I happened across an illustration of a Nazi rally in 38 or 39 at the Brandenburg in a book I was reviewing, went and looked at pictures of the same on Yahoo from then and now. Brandenburg Gate without a doubt.

You might recall that this was where Obama wanted to give his World Tour speech ala JFK, but the mean, nasty Germans wouldn't let him.

"So fine. I'll make my own Brandenburg Gate." (Stomps off to room pouting, slamming door loudly.)

340 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:28:53am

re: #5 Sharmuta

"Racist, Sexist, Vindictive and Mean".

But I thought Michelle Obama was at Sidley and Austin?

341 Syrah  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:29:19am

re: #308 Austin Conservative

Echos of the October Surprise - "We have no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, but the seriousness of these allegations, and the weight of circumstantial information, compel an effort to establish the facts,' read a joint statement from Foley and Mitchell."

342 Tom Kratman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:29:25am

re: #300 galloping granny

Actually, Obama repeated the shahada on national television during the same interview where he declared it to be the most beautiful sound in the world. That is why so many have referred to him speaking Arabic - quite good Arabic.

From everything I have read, the Muslim world considers Obama to be muslim, not a muslim apostate.

Did he indeed? Interesting. Got a site / cite for a video? Depending on tone of voice...

343 BBEV  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:29:32am

re: #311 Sharmuta

I heard Sarah Palin doesn't even know any crackheads. I mean, Alaska? Alaska?!

Hell I live in New Hampshire and I don't know any crack heads!

344 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:30:40am

re: #339 livefreeor die

"So fine. I'll make my own Brandenburg Gate." (Stomps off to room pouting, slamming door loudly.)

His campaign said that they could not change the stage at the last minute because it had been decided upon before Barry went on the World Tour. I suspect that it was meant to be an echo of his World Tour speech rather than a slamming of the door.

345 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:30:41am

re: #337 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yeah, they fixed it.

346 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:30:49am

re: #341 Syrah

Echos of the October Surprise - "We have no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, but the seriousness of these allegations, and the weight of circumstantial information, compel an effort to establish the facts,' read a joint statement from Foley and Mitchell."

as long as it is accurate it does not matter if it's fake. Thank you, signed D. Rather

347 JHW  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:30:53am

Heh. Wonder Ticket Via Ace of Spades

348 realwest  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:31:01am

Well y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta go mush some lunch now.
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

349 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:31:06am

re: #343 BBEV

Hell I live in New Hampshire and I don't know any crack heads!

I hear there are a few in Manchester.

350 Gearhead  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:31:47am

re: #335 bushleague

Late to the thread. Kos linky down the memory hole.... For how long?

Toilet's plugged. See #323.

351 yma o hyd  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:31:53am

re: #260 Cognito

I've had the real pleasure (and pure luck) of knowing some very, very smart people. World-class intellects who changed the world. And not one of them, that I can recall, ever mentioned his IQ.

Thats right - they wouldn't - because they enjoy actually using their brains. They don't need puffing themselves up mentioning their IQs - they're not into a 'mine-is-bigger-than-yours' match, unlike those who have nothing to show for themselves but a high IQ about which to brag ...

352 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:31:54am
353 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:31:55am

Whack job in WA that killed 6 (including a Deputy) and wounded 2 others (including a Trooper)

Says:

I killed for God.

Zamora's record includes about 50 court cases in Washington state, the Skagit Valley Herald reported. Most were misdemeanors ranging from driving on a suspended license to possession of marijuana, but eight cases were felonies, including three before he turned 18.


Okay, in an out of the corrections system, mentally unstable.

Wonder if anything else helped push him over the edge?

BTW, the last 4 cops killed in WA have been by felons under DOC supervision.

354 DeafDog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:32:02am

re: #334 galloping granny

Those were not Greek columns. That stage was a mockup of the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin. I happened across an illustration of a Nazi rally in 38 or 39 at the Brandenburg in a book I was reviewing, went and looked at pictures of the same on Yahoo from then and now. Brandenburg Gate without a doubt.

You might recall that this was where Obama wanted to give his World Tour speech ala JFK, but the mean, nasty Germans wouldn't let him.

I was told that the column were supposed to reporesent the Lincoln Memorial in honor of MLK's famaus "I have a Dream" speech.

355 Tom Kratman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:32:07am

re: #321 chicagodudewhotrades

Are you really this Tom Kratman?:

[Link: www.tomkratman.com...]


If you are, I loved your humor story about the Ted Kennedy/ boris yeltsin drinking contest


Yeah, that's me. Must update site someday.

356 Syrah  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:32:12am

re: #346 Desert Dog

as long as it is accurate it does not matter if it's fake. Thank you, signed D. Rather

Ah yes. . . I have the memo on that somewhere around here.

:-D

357 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:32:13am

re: #324 MandyManners

If he wins, they'll use him for his coronation...er...I mean, innauguration.

Oh man, can you just see it? Inauguration day will look like a Roman victory processional down Penn Ave. Picture the triumphant chariot ride into Rome scene from the movie Cleopatra. You know it is coming.

358 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:32:20am

re: #80 jones

I'm writing a play and want to float it by you.

It is set in 17th century Salem and some girls are accusing everyone of being a witch, and people use witchcraft accusations to steal land or get political power.

Then Sarah Palin turns everyone into newts.

Sound good? I just need a title.

Monty Python and the Scarlet Letter.

359 looking closely  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:32:29am

re: #260 Cognito

I've had the real pleasure (and pure luck) of knowing some very, very smart people. World-class intellects who changed the world. And not one of them, that I can recall, ever mentioned his IQ.


When you have actual accomplishments, you don't need to talk about IQ.
That number is meaningless, its just an ego-stroke.

And I've also met some pretty sharp people in my time, including at least 5 Nobel prize winners (three medicine, one physics, one peace). 4 of the 5 were completely humble, and talking to them, you'd never know or even suspect about the level accomplishments.

The outlier is one of the medicine ones; I won't mention his name, but he's sort of known for having a big ego, and got in a spot of trouble over it a few years back.

360 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:32:53am

re: #349 galloping granny

I hear there are a few in Manchester.

Well Granny, if you ain't got no crackheads, you cannot "VOTE OR DIE" with Piddly! (or is it Puffed Up Diddy)

361 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:32:59am

re: #329 Cognito

Here you go. It's trickling out:

Obama insists on debunking non-existent smear.

It his RED connections that bother me.........

362 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:33:27am

re: #345 Killgore Trout

Yeah, they fixed it.

But I did see the cross-post. Thanks.

363 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:33:32am

re: #342 Tom Kratman

Did he indeed? Interesting. Got a site / cite for a video? Depending on tone of voice...

Not any more - it was quite some months ago. NBC I think. Let me see if I can dig it up.

364 Tom Kratman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:34:14am

re: #328 MandyManners

LOL! If I recollect correctly, I gave you a rough time ages ago. I apologize.

No sweat.

365 USA  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:34:20am

Politicians. Pay attention to what they do not what they say.

366 Reality_Wrangler  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:34:29am

FOX leads off with DNC flag trashing story prefacing Palin speech. Palin speaking now...

367 yma o hyd  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:34:36am

re: #272 pre-Boomer Marine brat

And she burns my butt!

Och - you're doing fine, retaliating ...


:-))

368 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:34:36am

Obama is getting "bullied" by a girl so this is his new music theme.

I LOVE THIS VIDEO

She F%$*G Hates me!

369 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:34:59am

re: #219 Happy Fun Ball

I've discovered quite a few things that she's done. And yes, some of them could be quite damning:

She ripped the tags off of matresses.
She does not close the cover before striking.

She has been seen running with scissors.

She once had an overdue library book.

She hangs the toilet paper in reverse direction.

She lathered and rinsed, but didn't repeat.

She squeezes the toothpaste tube in the middle.

She doesn't refill the ice cube trays when she uses them!

She double-dips her veggies, chips, and buffalo wings.

She didn't use Pace. Instead she used salsa that was made in New York City.

She drinks directly from the carton.

She used the cheat code to beat Contra.

She squeezed the Charmin.

I bet she's even not rinsed her recyclables.

370 BBEV  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:35:01am

re: #349 galloping granny

I hear there are a few in Manchester.

I guess but if I saw one I'm sure I was beating them with a club I use to kick people out of the parking lot that I use to take care of.

371 Cognito  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:35:28am

re: #359 looking closely

Yep to all that -- and wow, five Nobel winners!

372 kuffar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:35:32am

For some reason. Whenever I am thinking about what is going on in America right now. The campaign speeches Palin and McCain are giving:

I imagine Ronald Reagan and his almost natural ability at speech, at taking what is deep down inside everyone and yanking it out for everyone to see. The very best in America and her countrymen.

McCain and Palin have given me my faith in the American people back.

A man who has nothing more to prove and a mother who is shaping upto be the mother of a country...

373 sarabeara  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:35:40am

How can I change my login name to be sarabearacuda?

374 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:35:45am

re: #366 Reality_Wrangler

FOX leads off with DNC flag trashing story prefacing Palin speech. Palin speaking now...


Watching now. She's It's sooo beautiful...

375 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:36:41am

re: #334 galloping granny

Those were not Greek columns. That stage was a mockup of the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin. I happened across an illustration of a Nazi rally in 38 or 39 at the Brandenburg in a book I was reviewing, went and looked at pictures of the same on Yahoo from then and now. Brandenburg Gate without a doubt.

You might recall that this was where Obama wanted to give his World Tour speech ala JFK, but the mean, nasty Germans wouldn't let him.

Wonder if he got a jelly doughnut?

376 Fat Jolly Penguin  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:36:50am

re: #373 sarabeara

How can I change my login name to be sarabearacuda?

You'll have to make a sockpuppet -- a new account -- when the Large Lizard opens registration.

377 Tom Kratman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:36:59am

re: #321 chicagodudewhotrades

Are you really this Tom Kratman?:

[Link: www.tomkratman.com...]


If you are, I loved your humor story about the Ted Kennedy/ boris yeltsin drinking contest


Oh, and I was seriously hungover when I wrote that. Thanks.

378 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:37:39am

I love the smell of kkos kiddies shitting their diapers! They are absolutely terrified of this woman. She is not a wannabe feminist, like Steinem, Fonda, Dowd, et al. She is a for real Woman.

379 Rkrocket  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:37:52am

They removed it... it's gone!

380 BaseballMom57  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:37:53am

re: #156 looking closely

Oh, you GOTTA watch this Penn & Teller Bullshit piece on Bottled Water. It's effin HYSTERICAL.

381 gop_patriot  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:38:08am

re: #352 goddessoftheclassroom

A link sent to me by a friend--don't miss this!

Oh wow that made me cry. Thanks for posting it, I'm passing it on.

382 HDrepub  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:38:14am

re: #262 looking closely

Its a politically expedient lie, better than going around saying his deceased wife was responsible for the accident that killed herself and hurt her two little kids.

Where is the renewed media interest in Biden's repeated plagiarism and other blatant lies about himself?

Don't people remember that he had to end a Presidential bid over this a few years back?

The plagiarism is only one reason he had to drop his bid. He's an insufferable boor is another.

383 kuffar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:38:45am

re: #377 Tom Kratman

Are you really the Tom Kratman who kicks ass with John Ringo?

If you are. Get to damn typing already. I want more!

384 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:38:47am

re: #176 Dustyvet

Put out the PROPAGANDA, then delete it...interesting tactic

Yeah... I read about in an old British novel somewhere...

385 chicagodudewhotrades  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:39:03am

re: #355 Tom Kratman

It is a pleasure to meet you. thank you for your service.

386 educ8em  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:39:22am

Well...another Kos classic down the memory hole!

387 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:39:24am

BBL

{goddess}

388 Jimash  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:39:27am

{Michael Richards Kramer crazy voice}
" She's a Racist, Todd's only Half Eskimo ! "
Bastards.
It IS beautiful. I do trust McCain. I like him. Old McCain is back.

389 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:39:35am

re: #342 Tom Kratman

Did he indeed? Interesting. Got a site / cite for a video? Depending on tone of voice...

Try this - [Link: answers.yahoo.com...]

390 Cognito  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:39:52am

Weird. Palin is recycling much of her acceptance speech, verbatim.

Not a great idea, I think. Just change up the wording a bit, if nothing else.

"I put it on eBay" is such a strong line that when it's repeated it's obvious.

391 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:40:30am

re: #352 goddessoftheclassroom

A link sent to me by a friend--don't miss this!

WOW!

That is a uber-smack down!

392 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:40:44am

re: #381 gop_patriot

that was very touching and true......

393 Tom Kratman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:40:55am

re: #383 kuffar

Are you really the Tom Kratman who kicks ass with John Ringo?

If you are. Get to damn typing already. I want more!

"The Same!"

That's been tough the last few months.

394 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:41:08am

re: #381 gop_patriot

Oh wow that made me cry. Thanks for posting it, I'm passing it on.

Powerful, on message, and true. All of the things that scare the heebegeebes outta liberals.

395 Sol Roth  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:41:08am

re: #127 ZoomieMSgt

Oh, but you REALLY must visit. It is the duty of every patriot to confront and know the enemy, no matter the repulsive nature. Take Mikey Moore on Larry King last night, I could only watch in short bursts but I did my duty. Once again he used the bodies of dead soldiers (Iraq, Afghanistan) as sandbags to shield himself from hurricane Reality. I almost had to buy a TV in this hotel, I was so incensed at his response to the mention of the surge actually working.

Oh and hello one and all, this hatchling has been waiting long for his egg to crack! I'm honored to be among such hearty and brave centurions of truth.

Welcome hatchling. Do not trust the (fatass) shover robot.

396 Dahveed  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:41:13am

re: #390 Cognito

Weird. Palin is recycling much of her acceptance speech, verbatim.

Not a great idea, I think. Just change up the wording a bit, if nothing else.

"I put it on eBay" is such a strong line that when it's repeated it's obvious.

Agreed. They need to come up with some new material.

397 Jimash  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:41:32am

re: #390 Cognito

Stump speech. Not really weird at all. They've all been doing it for a year.
Just that this one is memorable the first time.

398 wright1  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:41:42am

One of the best things about having honorable candidates like McCain and Palin is that when the kooks go out of their way to make insipid allegations like the kind of drivel that comes out of the mouths of Bill Maher, Joy Behar, or an elected official like Barney Frank, the vast majority of Americans who are not kooks know better.

But when you are a narcissist, which most of the Left is, you cannot for the life of you comprehend why others do not see the world as you do.

So instead of coming to your sense and debating on the issues, you malign, trivialize and demonize the target. It is so transparent.

Moderates who I talk to are not buying the negative propaganda. They want to hear what Sarah has to say.

Someone earlier said you can smell the fear. Yes, you can.

399 debutaunt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:42:06am

re: #316 Typicalwhitey

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

Not to sound hokey, but I have been thinking "country first" since I heard his speech.
And really thinking about it.

Yes, and validation from Europe somewhere down on the list.

400 Celtic Templar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:42:44am

Anyone know how often Obama "with Bush" whatever that means? I mean are they including the unanimous votes for things like park names and what not? How can we get that information - one of the commenters at Politico posed the question, wonder if anyone can answer? There would also need to be some explanation of the most liberal voting rating too, like 75% on unanimous bills, on bills for liberal causes, 100% or something similar

401 calcajun  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:43:18am

Ah, it's the same as she gave on Wednesday night--at least the part I tuned into.

402 kahall  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:43:19am

and down the memory hole it goes...

403 Tom Kratman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:43:37am

re: #385 chicagodudewhotrades

It is a pleasure to meet you. thank you for your service.

You're welcome. It's not as if I didn't, mostly, enjoy it though.

404 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:43:56am

"Those flags look great!"

heh

405 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:44:01am

re: #352 goddessoftheclassroom

A link sent to me by a friend--don't miss this!

Thank you, Goddess- that gave me goosebumps and a tear in my eye.

406 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:44:02am

re: #390 Cognito

Weird. Palin is recycling much of her acceptance speech, verbatim.
Not a great idea, I think. Just change up the wording a bit, if nothing else.

"I put it on eBay" is such a strong line that when it's repeated it's obvious.

Thats standard. Even though 38 million saw it live, and countless others have seen clips either on the news or the net, saying it IN person infront of crowds is still powerful for the people that show up

407 Cognito  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:44:09am

A confession: I think Sarah Palin is a gorgeous woman, but her accent grates on my ears like... like... something grating.

But then again, she's running for vice president, and not Cognito's Mistress.

So, rah rah Palin!

408 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:44:56am

re: #352 goddessoftheclassroom

A link sent to me by a friend--don't miss this!

Thank you for sharing that, gotc. Bookmarked.

409 acumen  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:45:09am

The big difference between Obama's experience in Chicago and Gov Palin's experience in Alaska in the past 12 years is very simple: He played in the trash with his radical friends and she threw the trash out.

410 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:45:26am

re: #373 sarabeara

How can I change my login name to be sarabearacuda?

You can't. What you start with you are stuck with. Otherwise we would all drive Charles crazy asking for name changes.

411 thebronze  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:45:26am

Am I mean to hope that the Kossacks heads explode when McCain/SarahCuda get elected?

412 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:45:32am

re: #407 Cognito
It's better than Chuckie Schumers accent or the swimmers.

413 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:46:04am

re: #357 The Shadow Do

Oh man, can you just see it? Inauguration day will look like a Roman victory processional down Penn Ave. Picture the triumphant chariot ride into Rome scene from the movie Cleopatra. You know it is coming.

WAB is gonna' be carried by a bunch of strong men?

414 looking closely  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:46:08am

re: #283 galloping granny

That is because "IQ" really is not a guarantee of anything at all, other than that you did well once on a specific test. Not a predictor of success at any given endeavor by a long shot and not even consistent from test to test. (There are several "IQ" tests. It is not uncommon to see individuals do well on one and not quite that well on some other test.)


IQ, when measured properly, is a good approximation of problem solving ability.

IQ is *strongly* correlated with education level, personal and professional accomplishment and advancement (including income), and even inversely correlated with social pathology (like criminality).

In general higher IQ persons accomplish more in life, rise higher, and earn more (though they aren't necessarily happier). But of course, like everything measured on bell curves, this is a generalization that can't be applied in individual cases.

There are highly accomplished "stupid" people and highly unsuccessful intelligent ones. People can be smart in some areas, but not in others (eg mathematics, interpersonal relationships).

Getting back to Biden, anyone who has to talk about high their IQ is, is almost certainly insecure. When you have actually accomplished things, you let the CV do the talking.

415 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:46:08am

You'd think the KosKids would have noticed the backlash forming based on all the attacks last weekend and chose to STFU.

But, noooooooo.

/Keep digging Leftards, Obambi's Realclear average lead is down to +2.4, care to ram it below zero. Go for it. Change we can believe in!

416 wright1  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:46:11am

re: #407 Cognito

A confession: I think Sarah Palin is a gorgeous woman, but her accent grates on my ears like... like... something grating.

But then again, she's running for vice president, and not Cognito's Mistress.

So, rah rah Palin!

that accent plays very well in Minnesota and the Northwest

417 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:46:16am

re: #407 Cognito

A confession: I think Sarah Palin is a gorgeous woman, but her accent grates on my ears like... like... something grating.

But then again, she's running for vice president, and not Cognito's Mistress.

So, rah rah Palin!

I like it. Sort of Marge Gunersonesqe. Implies a bit of 'nitty gritty' (there's an old one)

418 lawhawk  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:46:33am

re: #407 Cognito

A confession: I think Sarah Palin is a gorgeous woman, but her accent grates on my ears like... like... something grating.

But then again, she's running for vice president, and not Cognito's Mistress.

So, rah rah Palin!

Don't worry, you never stood a chance. /

419 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:46:50am

re: #395 Sol Roth

Welcome hatchling. Do not trust the (fatass) shover robot.


Well....I AM just an enlisted guy, and JfnK thinks I'm unedumacated, but I can smell just fine. Poop is poop, it doesn't take a genius. ;)

420 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:46:52am

re: #413 MandyManners
Sorry, I don't think the donks have any "strong men".

421 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:47:11am

re: #413 MandyManners

WAB is gonna' be carried by a bunch of strong men?

And white slaves chained and in tow.

422 Reality_Wrangler  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:47:21am

re: #374 ZoomieMSgt


She had me at hello.

Shit FOX cuts away from McCain before he addresses DNC Flag Trashing scandal... Cialis commercial of all things...

423 Yankee Division Son  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:48:17am

The "flag flap" going on is hilarious, I've searched around some picture sites of the dem convention, and there are some showing some of the flags, but not many. Perhaps they didn't want to look like those bible and gun clinging flag waving bitter folks of middle America...

Also interesting that the party who claims to be so "green" and pro recycling doesn't seem to apply those principles to American flags.. "should we save these?".. "Naw, just throw them in the dumpster over there."

Kudos to the McCain campaign for finding a good use for them :)

424 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:48:33am

re: #400 Celtic Templar

Well, in his mind, voting 100% on the left is perfectly normal and understandable. After all, the left is completely right about every issue. It's those darned fool Republicans that are wrong. So, it's ok to vote straight down the party line, just as long as it's the "correct" party....

I wonder how the other candidates would have voted if they had a chance to vote in the Senate? Biden is right there with Obama as far as toting the liberal party line. That tactic might make points with the kool aid drinkers on his side, but it's not going to sway anyone on the fence....

Bush = McCain? I thought Obama was sticking to issues? NOT!

425 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:48:34am

"I know their names and will make them famous" McCain on the porkers!

426 Cognito  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:48:50am

Huh. McCain's doing his speech verbatim, too.

What's up with that? They've got a staff of people who're supposed to shake that goodie bag now and again.

427 kuffar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:48:52am

re: #415 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Revolutionaries are committed to their cause with a fanatacism lacking in 'real' Americans. They'll go down fighting. They'll continue to file false voter registrations and voter intimidation in an attempt to steal the election.

They could concievably do it.

428 HDrepub  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:48:59am

re: #419 ZoomieMSgt

Well....I AM just an enlisted guy, and JfnK thinks I'm unedumacated, but I can smell just fine. Poop is poop, it doesn't take a genius. ;)

Exactly. I'm no veteranarian but I know a horse's ass when I smell one.

429 JHW  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:49:08am

re: #407 Cognito

Cognito, none of my business but what part of the country are you in? I've seen several comments on her accent, but to me, she sounds like us here in the Pacific Northwest, other people have mentioned Minnesota. I was kidding around myself a bit about this when I said i don't have an accent, people in other parts of the country do.

430 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:49:23am

re: #420 pingjockey

Sorry, I don't think the donks have any "strong men".

They got "alpha male" Gore.
And "war hero" Kerry.
/

431 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:49:26am

re: #375 Dustyvet

Wonder if he got a jelly doughnut?

He *IS* a jelly doughnut.

432 Bobibutu  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:49:27am

re: #405 Sharmuta

Thank you, Goddess- that gave me goosebumps and a tear in my eye.

Contagious. Thanks.

433 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:49:32am

re: #411 thebronze

Am I mean to hope that the Kossacks heads explode when McCain/SarahCuda get elected?

Nope, I'm meaner. I wanted McCain to announce Cheney or Rove....just for a minute or so. After KO exploded, then he could make the real announcement! LOL

434 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:49:45am

FNC just hammering the flags in the dumpster story. GOOD!

435 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:50:01am

re: #426 Cognito

Huh. McCain's doing his speech verbatim, too.

What's up with that? They've got a staff of people who're supposed to shake that goodie bag now and again.

All about getting the message out. Pound it. Pound it. Pound it.

436 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:50:18am

BBL

437 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:50:30am

re: #430 jcm
Mwahahahaha! Stop it you're killin' me!

438 wright1  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:50:53am

re: #423 Yankee Division Son

The "flag flap" going on is hilarious, I've searched around some picture sites of the dem convention, and there are some showing some of the flags, but not many. Perhaps they didn't want to look like those bible and gun clinging flag waving bitter folks of middle America...

Also interesting that the party who claims to be so "green" and pro recycling doesn't seem to apply those principles to American flags.. "should we save these?".. "Naw, just throw them in the dumpster over there."

Kudos to the McCain campaign for finding a good use for them :)


The coverage on Sweetness & Light has a good pic & story

439 Syrah  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:51:08am

re: #434 pingjockey

FNC just hammering the flags in the dumpster story. GOOD!

Makes it pretty clear that for the left, the flag is just a disposable prop.

440 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:51:12am

re: #342 Tom Kratman

LOL.

"Kratman is an idiot, and drools."

Best of recommendations I've heard yet. I picked up on the uniform. Thank you for your service.

441 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:51:14am

re: #204 livefreeor die

I read something about this yesterday. The trucker has since died and his children are fighting this constant lie that he was drunk.

Drinking and driving a commercial vehicle of any type is VERBOTEN! (And I really mean that in the old German sense of the word.)

Drinking or merely being in possession of alcohol in a commercial vehicle is a violation of the Federal Motor Carrier regulations and ground for summary termination from employment. Truck drivers WILL report anyone they suspect the local police, state patrol, and even the other driver's employer.

So I will have to call bullshit on Senator Biden.

442 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:51:16am

re: #426 Cognito

Huh. McCain's doing his speech verbatim, too.

What's up with that? They've got a staff of people who're supposed to shake that goodie bag now and again.

New stump speeches will be a weekly thing, not hourly. Again, see my #406. Standard whistle stopping

443 GM_Yitzhak  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:51:21am

Of course the Kos article has now been mysteriously "dissapeared", back to the bubbling cesspool of excrement from which articles like this are dredged and congealed.

444 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:51:53am

I was at Shabbat services at a Chabad, northwest of Boston, 495 belt area.

There was much more support for McCain there than I had expected. Someone I expected to vote for Obama is voting for Palin, I mean McCain.
Now this is a much more conservative area than Boston and the People's Republic of Cambridge, but still, I'd expect more support for Obama than I heard.
Come on, I want to see Massachusetts go for McCain!

445 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:51:55am

re: #433 ZoomieMSgt
That'd drive them right into a frothing frenzy. Wait 'till Pres. McCain announces John Bolton as Sec. State!

446 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:52:08am

re: #127 ZoomieMSgt

Oh, but you REALLY must visit. It is the duty of every patriot to confront and know the enemy, no matter the repulsive nature. Take Mikey Moore on Larry King last night, I could only watch in short bursts but I did my duty. Once again he used the bodies of dead soldiers (Iraq, Afghanistan) as sandbags to shield himself from hurricane Reality. I almost had to buy a TV in this hotel, I was so incensed at his response to the mention of the surge actually working.

Oh and hello one and all, this hatchling has been waiting long for his egg to crack! I'm honored to be among such hearty and brave centurions of truth.

You have quite the way with words.

447 Tom Kratman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:52:16am

re: #389 galloping granny

Try this - [Link: answers.yahoo.com...]

Hmmm, no video so it's hard to say. _I've_ said it, in front of Arabs, and they knew I wasn't becoming a Muslim thereby because I wasn't saying it as if I believed it to be true. (In fact, to ensure just this, I broke it up into phrases, well separated, and premised the thing with, "Hey, Abdul Mohsem, check my pronunciation on this.")

And, though I think his words were rather poorly chosen, the Obamessiah had a point; it can be quite beautiful to hear, once you get used to it.

448 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:52:20am

re: #430 jcm

They got "alpha maleWHALE" Gore.
And "ANTIwar hZero" Kerry.
/

There, fixed that for you.

449 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:52:22am

Koskidz complain about stolen garbage....

McCain supporter STEALS U.S. flags from DNC convention

Republicans went and STOLE a bunch of flags from the DNC convention and is now claiming they were going to be thrown away. McCain and his supporters are beyond disgusting. They should be arrested for THEFT.

Those flags were given to the 80,000 people that came to see Obama speak. I wonder what happen to the flags at the Republican convention?..........hhhmmmmmmm?

According to a blog at the denverpost, McCain intends to use these stolen flags at a campaign stop in order to attack Democrats as unpatriotic.

450 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:52:50am

re: #411 thebronze

Am I mean to hope that the Kossacks heads explode when McCain/SarahCuda get elected?

Chicken counting not allowed. Never count your chickens until you see the fat lady singing.

451 Outrider  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:52:51am
....” Alaskans Speak (In A Frightened Whisper):....


These must be 14-20% of Alaskans that aren't included in the Governors popularity rating of 80+ percent?

I love how the Koslings eagerly accept the story coming from unnamed waitress in an unnamed restaurant on a vague day.

452 opnion  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:53:07am

I was sitting outside of the grocery store in the car waiting for my wife today. Boring, so I was surfing the am dial & landed uopn a "Progressive"
Talk show frrom Willow Springs, Il. The Greg & somebody show.
Real sophmoric ,nasty crap. Sarah is White Trash, Todd Palin is gay.
They were not done, John McCain is no hero, not a brave man.
He is just a hack with a fairy tale.
Then they had on the producer of the Chicago production of "I am Rachel Corey"
I never caught their call letters, but their frequency is 820

453 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:53:12am

Sarah Palin happens to be a strong, intelligent, accomplished woman. While it's true she is attractive, I find the comments about her appearance to be insulting to her more meaningful qualities- the qualities that really matter to this country and how she'll help govern it.

454 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:53:57am

re: #445 pingjockey

That'd drive them right into a frothing frenzy. Wait 'till Pres. McCain announces John Bolton as Sec. State!

He'll need some serious pesticide to clean out the scum in Foggy Bottom.

455 bushleague  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:53:58am

re: #449 Killgore Trout

It really must be handy to have an alternate universe at your disposal. Those Kos Kids are more fortunate than they realize.

456 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:54:12am

re: #445 pingjockey

That'd drive them right into a frothing frenzy. Wait 'till Pres. McCain announces John Bolton as Sec. State!

How about Ted Nugent(sp?) as SecDef? Saw him on NB last night.

457 looking closely  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:54:13am

re: #382 HDrepub

The plagiarism is only one reason he had to drop his bid. He's an insufferable boor is another.


The most obvious reason is that he wasn't going to win. The man excites nobody.

But the plagiarism issue in particular goes right to character.

Bluntly, the guy stole someone elses story to puff up his background on the campaign trail. This was AFTER he was caught plagiarizing a law review article in his first year in law school, and failed the class for it.

Biden claimed he simply didn't understand the rules of attribution, but that's a highly questionable claim coming from a college graduate and law student (let alone someone who earned a merit scholarship, and claims to have a high IQ).

458 wright1  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:54:45am

re: #449 Killgore Trout

Koskidz complain about stolen garbage....

McCain supporter STEALS U.S. flags from DNC convention

As McDonald's likes to say: "I'm lov'in it."

459 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:54:45am

FNC showing clips of the Mikey Moron spoof. Trace Adkins as Death.

460 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:54:46am

re: #420 pingjockey

Sorry, I don't think the donks have any "strong men".

I reckon Mikey Moore and ManBearPig just look strong.

461 Yankee Division Son  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:55:01am

re: #438 wright1

thanks! There sure are allot of 'em...

462 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:55:07am

re: #421 The Shadow Do

And white slaves chained and in tow.

LOL!

463 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:55:34am

re: #454 Kosh's Shadow
They will repeal the DDT ban.

464 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:55:35am

The Recycled Flags of the DNCC
posted at 12:00 pm on September 6, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Democrats brought out tens of thousands of American flags to Invesco Field, saluting Barack Obama as he spoke from the Styrofoam columns of the Barackopolis at the conclusion of the Democratic convention. Perhaps some of them took the flags home as souvenirs, but where did the rest go? According to David Harsanyi, they went into the trash — and would have gone to a landfill, except for a worker at Invesco who rescued them from the dumpsters:

This morning, Republicans tell me that a worker at Invesco Field in Denver saved thousands of unused flags from the Democratic National Convention that were headed for the garbage. Guerrilla campaigning. They will use these flags at their own event today in Colorado Springs with John McCain and Sarah Palin.

Before McCain speaks today, veterans will haul these garbage bags filled with flags out onto the stage — with dramatic effect, no doubt — and tell the story.

Didn’t anyone make arrangements for better disposal of these flags from Invesco? At the very least, they were an investment that could have been re-used at rallies in Colorado as well as the rest of the nation during the general election. Instead, they’ve handed a dramatic moment to John McCain and Sarah Palin, as well as relieved them of the cost of 12,000 such flags — as well as a full 3′x5′ flag that also wound up in the trash.

Remember when the DNCC was supposed to be the “greenest convention ever”? How they worried about the color of the food and using organic materials in their merchandise? I guess we can see where the “green” concern ends … at red, white, and blue.

Still … I hope the RNCC did a better job rescuing discarded flags at the Xcel Center.

Update: If you want to know how to properly dispose of flags, you can check the US Flag Code. If you’re still confused, contact your local American Legion or VFW, and they will help you dispose of them. (h/t: Indythinker in comments)


[Link: hotair.com...]

465 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:56:08am

Joe Biden's stump speech on CNN - Ref Republicans: "what do you talk about when you have nothing to say!"

He actually said that.

466 Tom Kratman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:56:19am

re: #440 Cap'n DOC

LOL.


Best of recommendations I've heard yet. I picked up on the uniform. Thank you for your service.

As I've been at pains to say, it wasn't as if I didn't like the job...mostly...up until very near the end. (I _hated_ the Peacekeeping Institute.)

In any case, you're welcome.

467 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:56:20am

re: #357 The Shadow Do

Oh man, can you just see it? Inauguration day will look like a Roman victory processional down Penn Ave. Picture the triumphant chariot ride into Rome scene from the movie Cleopatra. You know it is coming.

Is he going to be followed by Gallic slaves and captives? It is really only proper.

In order to receive a triumph, the dux must:

1. Win a significant victory over a foreign enemy, killing at least 5,000 enemy troops, and earn the title imperator.
2. Be an elected magistrate with the power of imperium, i.e. a dictator, consul, or a praetor.
3. Bring the army home, signifying that the war was over and that the army was no longer needed. Of course this only applied to the Republican era when the army was a citizen army. By the imperial period, when the army was professional, the proper triumph was reserved for the emperor and his family. If a general was awarded a triumph by the emperor, he would march with a token number of his troops.
4. In the Republican period, the senate had to give approval for a triumph based on the above mentioned requirements.

468 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:56:23am

re: #427 kuffar

Revolutionaries are committed to their cause with a fanatacism lacking in 'real' Americans. They'll go down fighting. They'll continue to file false voter registrations and voter intimidation in an attempt to steal the election.

They could concievably do it.

Yes, they have cornered the market on fanaticism. But they also under-estimate how much their vileness grates on regular folks.

469 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:56:25am

re: #456 ZoomieMSgt
Nah, Ted's gonna be Sec. of the Interior!

470 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:56:26am

re: #426 Cognito

Huh. McCain's doing his speech verbatim, too.

What's up with that? They've got a staff of people who're supposed to shake that goodie bag now and again.

I'm inclined to give them all a break. It's been an intense 10 days.

471 Syrah  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:56:36am

re: #445 pingjockey

That'd drive them right into a frothing frenzy. Wait 'till Pres. McCain announces John Bolton as Sec. State!

That would make me happy to vote for McCain. John Bolton as Sec. State would help me get over many of my complaints about McCain.

472 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:56:56am

re: #464 Dustyvet


Before McCain speaks today, veterans will haul these garbage bags filled with flags out onto the stage — with dramatic effect, no doubt — and tell the story.


Do we know what time the event starts? Somebody's bound to have a live feed.

473 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:57:03am

re: #467 David IV of Georgia

from [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

474 Yankee Division Son  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:57:10am

From the way the flags were bundled, there are obviously unused, and never distributed at the DNC event(s)

475 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:57:46am

re: #446 MandyManners

You have quite the way with words.

I am here but to serve and entertain you! I so hope to never disappoint, but the written word is a pursuit in excellence, never to be won.

476 wright1  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:57:47am

re: #464 Dustyvet


...and they are so clueless, this issue was raised on talk radio that the dems would probably throw them away but they couldn't help themselves - those flags are like crosses in the hands of vampires

477 looking closely  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:58:02am

re: #444 Kosh's Shadow

Come on, I want to see Massachusetts go for McCain!


MA did go for Reagan in 1980, but this miracle ain't going to happen.
Kerry-Kennedy land isn't going McCain-Palin.
Its just not going to happen.

478 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:58:06am

cnn has the feed to the McCain event

479 Cognito  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:58:22am

re: #470 MandyManners

I'm inclined to give them all a break. It's been an intense 10 days.

No breaks! Back to the grindstone!

/whip crack

480 Mardukhai  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:58:42am

The politically correct term for Eskimo is Inuit. They are really picky about that.

But after we finally get used to that term, they'll probably decide that they're really "Arctic-Americans".

481 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:58:42am

looks like it's just ending.

482 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:58:46am

re: #475 ZoomieMSgt

Thank you for your service, Gunny!

483 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:58:47am

re: #444 Kosh's Shadow

I was at Shabbat services at a Chabad, northwest of Boston, 495 belt area.

There was much more support for McCain there than I had expected. Someone I expected to vote for Obama is voting for Palin, I mean McCain.
Now this is a much more conservative area than Boston and the People's Republic of Cambridge, but still, I'd expect more support for Obama than I heard.
Come on, I want to see Massachusetts go for McCain!

I was very surprised yesterday while driving around Moonbat Central, otherwise known as Amherst, MA and environs, to not come across a single Obama sign.

484 Celtic Templar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:58:47am

re: #451 Outrider

These must be 14-20% of Alaskans that aren't included in the Governors popularity rating of 80+ percent?

I love how the Koslings eagerly accept the story coming from unnamed waitress in an unnamed restaurant on a vague day.

And you know they're the ones pissing and moaning the loudest (especially with 80% approval).

485 debutaunt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:58:55am

re: #406 sattv4u2

Thats standard. Even though 38 million saw it live, and countless others have seen clips either on the news or the net, saying it IN person infront of crowds is still powerful for the people that show up

But, but the MSM gets all bored and everything.

486 lawhawk  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:59:19am

re: #464 Dustyvet

From Ed's comments:

Still … I hope the RNCC did a better job rescuing discarded flags at the Xcel Center.

Don't doubt for a moment that the Democrats are looking for any evidence of a flag somehow mishandled at a GOP event to offset this. And with the sheer number of flags used in campaigns, it is bound to happen.

487 Balian1193  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:59:25am

I say McCain should use these flags on every campaign stop. Pass them out at the beginning of rallies, collect them at the end, and then recycle them for the next stop.

Its a good message: green, patriotic and a stinging reminder of the other side.

488 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:59:30am

re: #455 bushleague

It really must be handy to have an alternate universe at your disposal. Those Kos Kids are more fortunate than they realize.

Well, I think if you mix this with this, you get a typical KOS Diarist (diarrheaist?) seen here

489 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:59:35am

re: #377 Tom Kratman

Oh, and I was seriously hungover when I wrote that. Thanks.

Colonel I read that Sir. You must have made the desk jockeys so glad they came to work each day.

490 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:59:50am

re: #469 pingjockey

Nah, Ted's gonna be Sec. of the Interior!

I bow to your superior precognition...very apt!

491 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:59:55am
492 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:59:59am

re: #466 Tom Kratman
As a former NCO I cannot imagine how bad the PC nonsense was/is in the officer corps. Just as I retired in '97 we were starting PC classes aboard my cruiser cause women were coming aboard. I told the E-5 who was replacing me to treat them like sailors, not women sailors.

493 lawhawk  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:00:20pm

re: #485 debutaunt

That's why they resort to tried and true smears about inconsequential stuff, like travel agendas of our Presidents, sneering at President Bush while lauding Clinton.

494 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:00:29pm

re: #447 Tom Kratman

Hmmm, no video so it's hard to say. _I've_ said it, in front of Arabs, and they knew I wasn't becoming a Muslim thereby because I wasn't saying it as if I believed it to be true. (In fact, to ensure just this, I broke it up into phrases, well separated, and premised the thing with, "Hey, Abdul Mohsem, check my pronunciation on this.")

And, though I think his words were rather poorly chosen, the Obamessiah had a point; it can be quite beautiful to hear, once you get used to it have it pounded into your head five times a day.

Minor tweak.

495 wright1  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:00:47pm

re: #487 Balian1193

I say McCain should use these flags on every campaign stop. Pass them out at the beginning of rallies, collect them at the end, and then recycle them for the next stop.

Its a good message: green, patriotic and a stinging reminder of the other side.


Good point.

496 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:01:04pm

It's such a bummer we missed the flag event? Did anyone see it? Hopefully somebody out there recorded it for us.

497 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:01:42pm

re: #449 Killgore Trout

Republicans went and STOLE a bunch of flags from the DNC convention and is now claiming

Nothing to add. Just pointing and laughing.

498 Dirk Diggler  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:01:51pm
FNC just hammering the flags in the dumpster story. GOOD!

Waste of time and could potentially backfire. How did the Republicans dispose of all those flags at the Xcel center? If they merely threw them away too, that doesn't make the Republicans look any better by camparison does it?

Besides there are an infinite number of legitimate issues to hammer Barack Obama and the Democrats on.

499 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:02:06pm

So, it's one smear after another.

In order they tried:

* Trig was not her baby, but Bristol's
* Bristol's pregnancy is hypocrisy!
* She had an affair with Todd Palin's business partner
* She's tried to ban books from the library

missing anything? It seems they move from one smear to the next as one is shown to be utter hogwash. What's next? Sarah Palin's an alien?

500 HoosierHoops  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:02:11pm

re: #475 ZoomieMSgt

I am here but to serve and entertain you! I so hope to never disappoint, but the written word is a pursuit in excellence, never to be won.

I might write that line in my wife's birthday card...
Nah..she'd never believe me.
/

501 Metal Man  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:02:26pm

re: #301 JHW

I'm not 100% positive on this, but I think some years ago Ted Kennedy proposed a very, very high excise tax on ammo and reloading supplies that would have made it financially crippling to buy more than a very few rounds of ammo.


Is this the tax? If they get both houses and the POTUS this will be back.

502 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:02:26pm

re: #492 pingjockey

Thank goodness I retired in 1991.

I didn't have to try to survive the Clinton years (but did do my time in hell when Jimmah was president).

503 snowcrash  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:02:38pm

Down the memory hole. Oh well, I'm sure they won't run out of disgusting diaries anytime soon.

504 yma o hyd  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:02:38pm

re: #449 Killgore Trout

Koskidz complain about stolen garbage....

McCain supporter STEALS U.S. flags from DNC convention

Oohh - luvverly!
The flags were a gift, were they ... so why did they end up in the garbage? That, for me, spells 'unwanted' and 'disrespected' ...

Moan away, kiddos ...

505 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:02:45pm

re: #467 David IV of Georgia

6. Do none of the above, but claim them as yours anyway. Hope! Change!

506 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:02:58pm

re: #497 MandyManners

You're right. Is your middle name Grammar? If it ain't, it should be.

507 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:03:20pm

re: #485 debutaunt

But, but the MSM gets all bored and everything.

I'll send them a ball of yarn to amuse themselves with

508 Celtic Templar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:03:33pm

re: #499 EIDE_Interface

So, it's one smear after another.

In order they tried:

* Trig was not her baby, but Bristol's
* Bristol's pregnancy is hypocrisy!
* She had an affair with Todd Palin's business partner
* She's tried to ban books from the library

missing anything? It seems they move from one smear to the next as one is shown to be utter hogwash. What's next? Sarah Palin's an alien?

TROOPERGATE!
and the COVER UP!

She fired people!

Oh noes!

509 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:03:37pm

re: #487 Balian1193

I say McCain should use these flags on every campaign stop. Pass them out at the beginning of rallies, collect them at the end, and then recycle them for the next stop.

Its a good message: green, patriotic and a stinging reminder of the other side.

The Dems were going to do that too, but after they burnt some of the flags, wiped their feet on others and tossed out the rest in the garbage after using them as disingenuous props, they ran out of flags....

510 Yankee Division Son  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:03:47pm

re: #477 looking closely

MA did go for Reagan in 1980, but this miracle ain't going to happen.
Kerry-Kennedy land isn't going McCain-Palin.
Its just not going to happen.

The last poll I saw, before the conventions from Suffolk University of likely voters in Massachusetts, showed Obama was up by only 9 points.

To me (a Massachusetts resident) that was a shock. The Obama campaign should be worried.

Also, the day after Paulin's speech, more than one person told me "that's it, game over, I know who I'm voting for".

I'm not kidding, the phrase "game over" was repeated..

511 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:03:54pm

New Game: Find the Flag


512 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:04:05pm

re: #498 Dirk Diggler
I really doubt the repubs would just throw the flags away. I saw a crap load of my fellow VFW comrades and they wouldn't allow that nonsense. All the donks had to do was call the VFW/Amer. Legion/Boy scouts and tell them come and get all these flags. But no, they shit canned them.

513 calcajun  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:04:15pm

re: #449 Killgore Trout

Koskidz complain about stolen garbage....

McCain supporter STEALS U.S. flags from DNC convention

That's right. They were stolen from --from a DUMPSTER. They were the property of the sanitation company, after all.

514 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:04:20pm

re: #486 lawhawk

From Ed's comments:

Don't doubt for a moment that the Democrats are looking for any evidence of a flag somehow mishandled at a GOP event to offset this. And with the sheer number of flags used in campaigns, it is bound to happen.

RNC flags.....
A lot taken home as souvenirs.

515 opnion  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:04:23pm

re: #499 EIDE_Interface

So, it's one smear after another.

In order they tried:

* Trig was not her baby, but Bristol's
* Bristol's pregnancy is hypocrisy!
* She had an affair with Todd Palin's business partner
* She's tried to ban books from the library

missing anything? It seems they move from one smear to the next as one is shown to be utter hogwash. What's next? Sarah Palin's an alien?

I think that the MSM is poised to break the story, that she once wore white sfter Labor Day.

516 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:04:28pm

re: #475 ZoomieMSgt

I am here but to serve and entertain you! I so hope to never disappoint, but the written word is a pursuit in excellence, never to be won.

Well, now. Who's knees are weak now?

517 BaseballMom57  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:04:47pm

re: #352 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh my...bawling my eyes out right now. Took me a minute to notice something VERY important at the end....Everyone needs to see it!

518 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:05:00pm

re: #512 pingjockey

Shitcan is one word where I come from.

519 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:05:22pm

re: #482 Cap'n DOC

Thank you for your service, Gunny!

Oh no, no, no! I'm not quite that level of excellence! Just a USAF commo guy. MSgt is only E-7. ;) But, I'm PROUD to serve, no matter that it may be a sin to some. At least here I am not shouted down and told to shut up by those who's voice I protect hmmm? LOL I love antagonizing lib emos, alas, I have to wait until I retire to do so full time and openly.

520 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:05:23pm

re: #478 Killgore Trout

cnn has the feed to the McCain event

MSNBC has the usual weekend garbage.

521 Celtic Templar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:05:24pm

re: #515 opnion

I think that the MSM is poised to break the story, that she once wore white sfter Labor Day.

CaribouGate!

522 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:05:34pm

re: #502 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
I went in with Jimmah and out with Clintoon. Did have RWR and GHWB between. Thank God.

523 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:05:53pm

re: #479 Cognito

No breaks! Back to the grindstone!

/whip crack

Yes, Master.

524 DeafDog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:05:57pm

re: #445 pingjockey

That'd drive them right into a frothing frenzy. Wait 'till Pres. McCain announces John Bolton as Sec. State!

That would be too controversial for Johnny Mac. If Mac pulls this election out, he will not want to start off with huge Senate fights. SecState will go to Lieberman or Powell.

525 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:06:32pm

Piper-gate for the cowlick on Trig!

526 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:06:46pm

Ooops that's Cowlick-Gate.

527 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:06:48pm

re: #521 Celtic Templar

CaribouGate!

Oh man, LOL

528 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:07:22pm

re: #518 Cap'n DOC
Crap! I know better.

529 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:07:30pm

FOX: McCain Campaign Recovers American Flags Trashed By DNC


530 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:07:33pm

re: #480 Mardukhai

The politically correct term for Eskimo is Inuit. They are really picky about that.

But after we finally get used to that term, they'll probably decide that they're really "Arctic-Americans".

I would suggest to you that surely Sarah Palin, who is married to an Eskimo and has given birth to 5 half-Eskimo children, who governs over the state where all of the various US tribes of Eskimos live, knows unequivocally what the correct term for Eskimos is - the one that Eskimos prefer to be called.

I would also suggest to you that the "correct" term according to most tribal members is not Native American, but rather American Indian, which is why the American Indian Movement is not called the Native American movement.

531 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:07:39pm

re: #524 DeafDog

That would be too controversial for Johnny Mac. If Mac pulls this election out, he will not want to start off with huge Senate fights. SecState will go to Lieberman or Powell.

Oh please no Powell. I can live with Lieberman, because the idea of all those Arabs having to meet with a Jew is too juicy(Jew-cy).

532 JHW  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:07:48pm

re: #501 Metal Man

Hey thanks a lot for that. Bookmarked, that's what I was looking for, their sneaky attempt to do an end run around the 2d Amendment. I noticed in the article a 10,000% tax on certain types of ammunition.

533 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:07:52pm

re: #528 pingjockey
How to spell shitcan better, that is. Sheesh.

534 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:08:04pm

re: #477 looking closely

MA did go for Reagan in 1980, but this miracle ain't going to happen.
Kerry-Kennedy land isn't going McCain-Palin.
Its just not going to happen.

I can dream, can't I?
In any case, I'm trying to help.

535 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:08:18pm

re: #524 DeafDog
I can dream.

536 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:08:25pm

re: #487 Balian1193

I say McCain should use these flags on every campaign stop. Pass them out at the beginning of rallies, collect them at the end, and then recycle them for the next stop.

Its a good message: green, patriotic and a stinging reminder of the other side.

Just heard on Fox that the Obamas are saying that the Republicans stole the flags, that the flags were being sent back to the manufacturer for redistribution. ROFL.

537 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:08:31pm

re: #449 Killgore Trout

Koskidz complain about stolen garbage....

McCain supporter STEALS U.S. flags from DNC convention

That's just a by-product of campaign finance reform.
... limited funding, effective use of resources.

538 J.D.  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:08:32pm

re: #515 opnion

I think that the MSM is poised to break the story, that she once wore white sfter Labor Day.

Egad! Is there anything worse?

539 wright1  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:08:39pm

re: #510 Yankee Division Son

The last poll I saw, before the conventions from Suffolk University of likely voters in Massachusetts, showed Obama was up by only 9 points.

To me (a Massachusetts resident) that was a shock. The Obama campaign should be worried.

Also, the day after Palin's speech, more than one person told me "that's it, game over, I know who I'm voting for".

I'm not kidding, the phrase "game over" was repeated..


I wish that was the case in New Jersey, the Dems have a political machine that is iron clad. The more corruption - the more Dems win. The people of our State get what they deserve. Fortunately I live in a bastion of conservatives...still Palin is having some effect.

540 Tom Kratman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:08:45pm

re: #489 lifeofthemind

Colonel I read that Sir. You must have made the desk jockeys so glad they came to work each day.

Not sure what you mean.

541 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:08:53pm

re: #506 Cap'n DOC

You're right. Is your middle name Grammar? If it ain't, it should be.

Oh, no! I screw up all the time. I still can't figure out when to use "which" and when to use "that".

542 Sol Roth  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:08:57pm

re: #419 ZoomieMSgt

Well....I AM just an enlisted guy, and JfnK thinks I'm unedumacated, but I can smell just fine. Poop is poop, it doesn't take a genius. ;)

Glad you are here, we like your unedyumacashun! I was introducing you to an LGFism: [Link: lgfdictionary.wordpress.com...]

It was the politest thing I could think of to say about Red Mikey.

543 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:09:00pm

re: #498 Dirk Diggler

Waste of time and could potentially backfire. How did the Republicans dispose of all those flags at the Xcel center? If they merely threw them away too, that doesn't make the Republicans look any better by camparison does it?

Besides there are an infinite number of legitimate issues to hammer Barack Obama and the Democrats on.

I agree. This is not a good move. And it's a little embarrassing, frankly.

544 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:09:05pm

KOS seems to have deleted the Article.

545 kansas  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:09:26pm

re: #20 Charles

True. And yet, oddly enough, these smears just keep getting posted.

Channeling Ann Richards "Poor Kos, he just can't hep it."

546 Jimash  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:09:27pm

re: #515 opnion

I think that the MSM is poised to break the story, that she once wore white sfter Labor Day.

Hunting camoflage/

547 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:09:39pm

Obama should have a 17-18 point lead in MA. Now McCain still won't win MA, but if this is a sign of anything all the swing-states should break his way.

548 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:09:56pm

re: #536 galloping granny

Just heard on Fox that the Obamas are saying that the Republicans stole the flags, that the flags were being sent back to the manufacturer for redistribution. ROFL.

Yeah right, SURE...now what's holding up that damn bunny with my Easter Eggs?

549 debutaunt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:09:59pm

re: #474 Yankee Division Son

From the way the flags were bundled, there are obviously unused, and never distributed at the DNC event(s)

I commented on the 'unused' description of the flags that Drudge made.

550 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:10:23pm

re: #524 DeafDog

I think it is ironic about McCain's tendencies. Once he's elected, he will be way more "bi-partisan" and more apt to reach out to the other side than Obama. Why does Obama continue to get a pass from the MSM about HIS partisanship? He will treat the right side of aisle like it does not exist when he and Harry and Nancy shove his worn out and tired leftist crap down our throats......I guess that is ok to Dems? That is the difference between the left and right in this country. The right thinks they can deal with the left, the left wants to wipe out and erase the right.

551 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:10:32pm

re: #499 EIDE_Interface

So, it's one smear after another.

In order they tried:

* Trig was not her baby, but Bristol's
* Bristol's pregnancy is hypocrisy!
* She had an affair with Todd Palin's business partner
* She's tried to ban books from the library

missing anything? It seems they move from one smear to the next as one is shown to be utter hogwash. What's next? Sarah Palin's an alien?

That will backfire, because Kuchinch will come out in support of Palin if he thinks she's an alien.

552 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:10:33pm

re: #516 MandyManners

Well, now. Who's knees are weak now?

Can't help it, I was raised a southern gentleman. I might be a bitter clinger, but I know my words real good. ;)

553 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:10:41pm

re: #531 EIDE_Interface

Oh please no Powell. I can live with Lieberman, because the idea of all those Arabs having to meet with a Jew is too juicy(Jew-cy).

I agree, Powell's presence at State would make Rice look like Atilla the Hun.

554 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:10:42pm

re: #518 Cap'n DOC

Shitcan is one word where I come from.

I like to hyphenate shit-can.

555 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:10:45pm

re: #9 Cognito

A bowling-lane attendant name John, who declined to use his last name for whatever unimaginable reason, once overheard Barack Obama say he hates babies and would declare war on anyone under two years old, lest his eventual nemesis survive and grow.

Totally true.

I think that's the funniest thing you've ever written. This made me laugh also because I was watching The Incredibles earlier today on Disney, and it fits in with the whole good vs. evil thing there.

556 opnion  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:10:51pm

re: #538 J.D.

Egad! Is there anything worse?


Maybe, Todd Palin cheated at Dodge Ball in the third grade.

557 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:10:53pm

re: #510 Yankee Division Son

The last poll I saw, before the conventions from Suffolk University of likely voters in Massachusetts, showed Obama was up by only 9 points.

To me (a Massachusetts resident) that was a shock. The Obama campaign should be worried.

Also, the day after Paulin's speech, more than one person told me "that's it, game over, I know who I'm voting for".

I'm not kidding, the phrase "game over" was repeated..

Like I said, I was stunned riding around Amherst yesterday - home to Amherst College, the University of Massachusetts and Hampshire College - to not come across a single Obama sign. No bumper stickers either.

558 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:10:55pm

re: #299 Dustyvet

The Greek Columns where divided up between Hanoi John Kerry, and screaming Howard Dean.

Who got the fifth column?

559 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:11:12pm

re: #525 EIDE_Interface

Piper-gate for the cowlick on Trig!

LOL!

560 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:11:21pm

re: #531 EIDE_Interface

Oh please no Powell. I can live with Lieberman, because the idea of all those Arabs having to meet with a Jew is too juicy(Jew-cy).

Me neither. I don't trust Powell.

561 DeafDog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:11:26pm

re: #531 EIDE_Interface

Oh please no Powell. I can live with Lieberman, because the idea of all those Arabs having to meet with a Jew is too juicy(Jew-cy).

OK. I'll tell Johnny Mac - "No Powell"

562 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:11:36pm

re: #526 EIDE_Interface

Ooops that's Cowlick-Gate.

Either is equally funny.

563 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:11:42pm

re: #558 The Other Les
WAB

564 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:11:46pm

re: #558 The Other Les

Who got the fifth column?

Dan Rather.

565 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:11:57pm

re: #562 MandyManners

Either is equally funny.

566 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:11:59pm

So many gates, we can build a fortress.

567 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:12:10pm

re: #504 yma o hyd

Oohh - luvverly!
The flags were a gift, were they ... so why did they end up in the garbage? That, for me, spells 'unwanted' and 'disrespected' ...

Moan away, kiddos ...

Since the flag can be disposed of in the trash, apparently, if "completely beyond repair and battered", I'm glad to know the McCain ralliers will be displaying them to let the American People judge the condition.

I've ALWAYS taken our flags to the Memorial Day ceremonies to be respectfully burned by the American Legion here.

568 J.D.  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:12:18pm

re: #556 opnion

Maybe, Todd Palin cheated at Dodge Ball in the third grade.

Phew! Only that, huh?
I heard he cheated at the cakewalk and that's one thing I simply can't abide.

569 Syrah  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:12:21pm

re: #550 Desert Dog

I think it is ironic about McCain's tendencies. Once he's elected, he will be way more "bi-partisan" and more apt to reach out to the other side than Obama. Why does Obama continue to get a pass from the MSM about HIS partisanship? He will treat the right side of aisle like it does not exist when he and Harry and Nancy shove his worn out and tired leftist crap down our throats......I guess that is ok to Dems? That is the difference between the left and right in this country. The right thinks they can deal with the left, the left wants to wipe out and erase the right.

They really believe that they are the center. They honestly do not see a need or a reason to reach across the isle.

570 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:12:26pm

Now I'm self-conscious. Gonna' go scrub the toilets. Get some perspective.

571 chicagodudewhotrades  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:12:36pm

re: #524 DeafDog

You are probably right. But, if Mav wins big and we get back the Congress
who knows? Granted. those are 2 HUGE 'if's' but hey, anything is possible. I have a Rasmussen Markets predication account. My Con-'president Obama' and Pro-'President McCain' contracts are doing well.


Bolton as Sec State would kick A and take names

572 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:12:58pm

re: #512 pingjockey

I really doubt the repubs would just throw the flags away. I saw a crap load of my fellow VFW comrades and they wouldn't allow that nonsense. All the donks had to do was call the VFW/Amer. Legion/Boy scouts and tell them come and get all these flags. But no, they shit canned them.

re: #513 calcajun

That's right. They were stolen from --from a DUMPSTER. They were the property of the sanitation company, after all.

They did what?

Kee-ryste, that just turns my stomach. I am stunned that the Democrats could be so disrespectful... and then they wonder why they are, at times like this, accused of being anti-American.

573 J.D.  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:12:59pm

WARD!

574 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:13:16pm

re: #546 Jimash

Hunting camoflage/

ROTFLMAO!

575 gearhead  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:13:23pm

re: #536 galloping granny

...the flags were being sent back to the manufacturer for redistribution....

...to the less fortunate who have been left flagless by Bush's policies.

576 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:13:46pm

re: #519 ZoomieMSgt

Oh no, no, no! I'm not quite that level of excellence! Just a USAF commo guy. MSgt is only E-7. ;) But, I'm PROUD to serve, no matter that it may be a sin to some. At least here I am not shouted down and told to shut up by those who's voice I protect hmmm? LOL I love antagonizing lib emos, alas, I have to wait until I retire to do so full time and openly.

Pontificated at length over at Belmont Club about the difference between Aviation and Surface Navy or Army Officers. In the Airedale communities Junior Officers don't do much of the personnel management since they are busy learning how not to get killed while defying gravity. Consequently the troops manage themselves to a greater extent. That puts more of a burden on an aviation E-7 than is faced in other communities. On the other hand the aviation Chief benefits because he has less responsibility for training Ensigns and Lieutenants.

577 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:13:56pm

re: #567 jwb7605

Since the flag can be disposed of in the trash, apparently, if "completely beyond repair and battered", I'm glad to know the McCain ralliers will be displaying them to let the American People judge the condition.

I've ALWAYS taken our flags to the Memorial Day ceremonies to be respectfully burned by the American Legion here.

Where did you see anything allowing disposal in the trash?

578 opnion  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:13:59pm

re: #568 J.D.

Phew! Only that, huh?
I heard he cheated at the cakewalk and that's one thing I simply can't abide.

If that is true, McCain will have to replace her.

579 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:14:19pm

re: #550 Desert Dog

I think it is ironic about McCain's tendencies. Once he's elected, he will be way more "bi-partisan" and more apt to reach out to the other side than Obama. Why does Obama continue to get a pass from the MSM about HIS partisanship? He will treat the right side of aisle like it does not exist when he and Harry and Nancy shove his worn out and tired leftist crap down our throats......I guess that is ok to Dems? That is the difference between the left and right in this country. The right thinks they can deal with the left, the left wants to wipe out and erase the right.

Obama gets a pass from MSM 'coz they're on his side.

580 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:14:33pm

BBL. Going to friends parents 50th wedding anniv. Party!

581 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:14:49pm

re: #570 MandyManners

Now I'm self-conscious. Gonna' go scrub the toilets. Get some perspective.

The shitcans or the shit-cans?

582 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:15:09pm

re: #498 Dirk Diggler
When I went to a W event in '04 we were given flags and 'thunder sticks'. I still have mine.

583 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:15:14pm

re: #561 DeafDog

OK. I'll tell Johnny Mac - "No Powell"

To be honest, I very much doubt Powell would want the job.

584 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:15:21pm

re: #575 gearhead

...to the less fortunate who have been left flagless by Bush's policies.

I hear they are going to take take flags from the rich, who have way more flags than they need, and give them to the poor...who, as you mentioned, have no flags because Bush/Cheney/Halliburton has shipped them off to all the people they have freed from tyranny.....

585 JHW  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:15:24pm

According to Wiki, Todd Palin is one-eighth Eskimo, not full-blooded;

His mother, a former secretary of the Alaska Federation of Natives, is one-quarter Yup'ik, and his maternal grandmother, Lena Andre, is a member of the Curyung tribe.[8]

Todd Palin, Wiki
586 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:15:24pm

re: #580 pingjockey

BBL. Going to friends parents 50th wedding anniv. Party!

Just went to one a month ago. Wish them the best!

587 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:15:50pm

re: #557 galloping granny

Like I said, I was stunned riding around Amherst yesterday - home to Amherst College, the University of Massachusetts and Hampshire College - to not come across a single Obama sign. No bumper stickers either.

did you forget the "/"?

(too good to be true category)

588 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:16:06pm

Sec State: John Bolton
Sec Interior: Ted Nugent
Sec Def: David Petreaus

Who else, for what?

589 Yankee Division Son  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:16:12pm

re: #536 galloping granny

Just heard on Fox that the Obamas are saying that the Republicans stole the flags, that the flags were being sent back to the manufacturer for redistribution. ROFL.

Heh! Yea, "what should we do with these?".. "send 'em back where they came from, we've got no use for them."

That's one of the stupidest things they've said yet, and mind you there's allot to choose from... McCain should jump on that one...

590 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:16:12pm

re: #577 galloping granny
According to my Boy scout handbook(40)yrs old and my VFW guidelines, you NEVER, EVER dispose of the FLAG in the trash. Period.

591 J.D.  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:16:13pm

My mother was telling me what must have been the CNN (all that she watches) spin on Sarah's ex-brother-in-law who tased his stepchild and drove his state police car while drinking and on and on and on and on... They are desperate to discredit her.

592 Celtic Templar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:16:27pm

re: #566 EIDE_Interface

So many gates, we can build a fortress.


Probably the best strategy for handling the nonsense is to treat it like such. To pay any respect to the MSM for their unabashed assault on Palin is a bit too much for me. I saw TrooperGate somewhere and laughed ... MSM GET A NEW PLAYBOOK ....

593 debutaunt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:16:44pm

re: #509 Desert Dog

The Dems were going to do that too, but after they burnt some of the flags, wiped their feet on others and tossed out the rest in the garbage after using them as disingenuous props, they ran out of flags....

Yeah! Ayers was planning on a piled-high-flag-stomp!

594 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:16:55pm

re: #591 J.D.

My mother was telling me what must have been the CNN (all that she watches) spin on Sarah's ex-brother-in-law who tased his stepchild and drove his state police car while drinking and on and on and on and on... They are desperate to discredit her.

So CNN is telling that he tased the boy or not?

595 Yankee Division Son  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:17:01pm

re: #588 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Sec State: John Bolton
Sec Interior: Ted Nugent
Sec Def: David Petreaus

Who else, for what?

Joe Lieberman, Sec. Health and Human Services

596 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:17:05pm

American Flag Etiquette.

Federal law stipulates many aspects of flag etiquette. The section of law dealing with American Flag etiquette is generally referred to as the Flag Code. Some general guidelines from the Flag Code answer many of the most common questions:

* The flag should be lighted at all times, either by sunlight or by an appropriate light source.
* The flag should be flown in fair weather, unless the flag is designed for inclement weather use.
* The flag should never be dipped to any person or thing. It is flown upside down only as a distress signal.
* The flag should not be used for any decoration in general. Bunting of blue, white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe of the bunting should be on the top.
* The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It should not be embroidered, printed or otherwise impressed on such articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should not be attached to the staff or halyard.
* The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military personnel, fireman, policeman and members of patriotic organizations.
* The flag should never have any mark, insignia, letter, word, number, figure, or drawing of any kind placed on it, or attached to it.
* The flag should never be used for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
* When the flag is lowered, no part of it should touch the ground or any other object; it should be received by waiting hands and arms. To store the flag it should be folded neatly and ceremoniously.
* The flag should be cleaned and mended when necessary.
* When a flag is so worn it is no longer fit to serve as a symbol of our country, it should be destroyed by burning in a dignified manner.

Read a more comprehensive set of flagetiquette rules for display of the American Flag.

[Link: www.usa-flag-site.org...]

597 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:17:06pm

re: #586 Ward Cleaver
Will do. My paents had theirs in July. So come Jan. it is the big 50 for me!

598 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:17:08pm

re: #587 jwb7605

did you forget the "/"?

(too good to be true category)

The big fair outside Seattle yesterday, McCain suff outnumbered Obama 10-1.

599 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:17:08pm

re: #375 Dustyvet

Wonder if he got a jelly doughnut?

"Ich bin ein frankfurter!"

600 Elcid  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:17:10pm

I haven't been at LGF, that awful much over the past couple of years and Charles may have restricted what I'm about to say. So at the risk of being admonished or banned, is there really a good reason Markos Zuniga can still emit carbon?

Like, maggots could always use a few more...Maggots, right?

601 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:17:19pm

re: #582 newsjunkie_ky

When I went to a W event in '04 we were given flags and 'thunder sticks'. I still have mine.

Wow, I went to the very last W event (at SMU on election night eve in '04), and we didn't get anything. Still have the ticket, though.

602 J.D.  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:17:24pm

re: #588 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)


Sec Interior: Ted Nugent

lol

603 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:17:34pm

re: #540 Tom Kratman

Not sure what you mean.

Meant the Kennedy Yeltsin piece, thought the humor impaired pencil pushers would have been aghast at having a combat officer show up. It's a compliment to you and probably unfair to the Pentagon set. Bet most of them are itching to get back to regimental duty.

604 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:17:41pm

re: #585 JHW

According to Wiki, Todd Palin is one-eighth Eskimo, not full-blooded;

Still, he's infinitely more Native American than Ward Churchill.

605 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:17:43pm

re: #576 lifeofthemind

Pontificated at length over at Belmont Club about the difference between Aviation and Surface Navy or Army Officers. In the Airedale communities Junior Officers don't do much of the personnel management since they are busy learning how not to get killed while defying gravity. Consequently the troops manage themselves to a greater extent. That puts more of a burden on an aviation E-7 than is faced in other communities. On the other hand the aviation Chief benefits because he has less responsibility for training Ensigns and Lieutenants.

nice observation (this is coming from a "brown jersey")

606 Celtic Templar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:17:49pm

re: #594 EIDE_Interface

So CNN is telling that he tased the boy or not?

That the stepson wanted to be tased (as if that makes it any better)

607 Jimash  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:17:59pm

They are going to have a hard time convincing anyone that brand new cloth flags in the garbage bags with discarded soda cans and brochures were going back for redistribution.
Maintenance workers at Invesco better put their TV interview duds on.

608 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:18:02pm

Sec of Ass Kicking: James Woods

609 J.D.  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:18:11pm

re: #594 EIDE_Interface

As I understand it, they're saying he tased him "a little bit".

610 yma o hyd  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:18:20pm

re: #524 DeafDog

That would be too controversial for Johnny Mac. If Mac pulls this election out, he will not want to start off with huge Senate fights. SecState will go to Lieberman or Powell.

A Lizard said somewhere quite recently that Bolton would be NSA - no Senate hearings for that post ...
Would be a most excellent choice, if I may say so from foreign shores ...

611 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:18:25pm

Flag Code:

(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

612 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:18:31pm

re: #597 pingjockey

Will do. My paents had theirs in July. So come Jan. it is the big 50 for me!

Cool! I always love looking at 50-year-old wedding photos, and how great the newlyweds looked.

613 DeafDog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:18:39pm

re: #550 Desert Dog

I think it is ironic about McCain's tendencies. Once he's elected, he will be way more "bi-partisan" and more apt to reach out to the other side than Obama. Why does Obama continue to get a pass from the MSM about HIS partisanship? He will treat the right side of aisle like it does not exist when he and Harry and Nancy shove his worn out and tired leftist crap down our throats......I guess that is ok to Dems? That is the difference between the left and right in this country. The right thinks they can deal with the left, the left wants to wipe out and erase the right.

Yeah. In the same vein, I remember when GHWB nominated Clarance Thomas and they had their intor to the press. The press asked savage questions about Thomas. GHWB, to his credit, answered every one politely. The press called GHWB defensive. Contrast that to when Clinton nominated Ginsberg. The press asked about her ACLU background and controversial ACLU positions - Clinton stormed off without answering. The press reacted by calling Clinton firm in his convictions (or something like that).

But don't you dare say there is a media bias!

614 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:18:44pm

re: #572 Spiny Norman

They did what?

Kee-ryste, that just turns my stomach. I am stunned that the Democrats could be so disrespectful... and then they wonder why they are, at times like this, accused of being anti-American.

Well, shit, what did you expect? They only had 'em out for the special "don't you dare question our patriotism" TV spectaculars.

Not at any other time would they soil themselves by touching that banner of racism and sexism.

615 JHW  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:18:46pm

re: #604 Spiny Norman

Absolutely true.

616 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:18:48pm

re: #604 Spiny Norman

Still, he's infinitely more Native American than Ward Churchill.

but ,, but ,,, but Ward has that cool 'Tonto' haircut,, and he wears rawhide and everything !

617 Celtic Templar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:18:54pm

re: #600 Elcid

I haven't been at LGF, that awful much over the past couple of years and Charles may have restricted what I'm about to say. So at the risk of being admonished or banned, is there really a good reason Markos Zuniga can still emit carbon?

Like, maggots could always use a few more...Maggots, right?

Because they get the conservatives votes ... Markos is a King maker donchyano ... except it's in a vice-versa way

618 kansas  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:18:56pm

re: #600 Elcid

I haven't been at LGF, that awful much over the past couple of years and Charles may have restricted what I'm about to say. So at the risk of being admonished or banned, is there really a good reason Markos Zuniga can still emit carbon?

He has carbon offsets.

619 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:18:58pm

re: #609 J.D.

As I understand it, they're saying he tased him "a little bit".

Yeah like that's going to help the MSM cause....

620 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:19:08pm

re: #576 lifeofthemind

Pontificated at length over at Belmont Club about the difference between Aviation and Surface Navy or Army Officers. In the Airedale communities Junior Officers don't do much of the personnel management since they are busy learning how not to get killed while defying gravity. Consequently the troops manage themselves to a greater extent. That puts more of a burden on an aviation E-7 than is faced in other communities. On the other hand the aviation Chief benefits because he has less responsibility for training Ensigns and Lieutenants.

Yes, though it goes a bit further I'd say. The USAF is run more like a dotcom, we have officers who think up the grand plan and then hand it down to the enlisted to figure out how to pull it off. Oh, and for the other services? The rumor is true, we really DO have Hawaiian Shirt and pinocolada Fridays. ;)

621 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:19:15pm

re: #583 Spiny Norman

To be honest, I very much doubt Powell would want the job.

Please not Powell. He and Armitage seriously backstabbed the President over the Plame case.

622 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:19:34pm

re: #590 pingjockey

According to my Boy scout handbook(40)yrs old and my VFW guidelines, you NEVER, EVER dispose of the FLAG in the trash. Period.

I thought that was true, too.
My Boy Scout books are 60 and 12 years old, respectively. Ain't in the ScoutMaster's handbook, either.

Doesn't mean it's not technically legal in some other official manual, though.

623 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:19:34pm

So USAF doesn't believe in micromanagement?

624 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:19:49pm

re: #604 Spiny Norman

Still, he's infinitely more Native American than Ward Churchill.

But he painted plagiarized Native American scenes!

625 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:20:05pm

re: #573 J.D.

WARD!

J.D.!

626 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:20:16pm

re: #585 JHW

According to Wiki, Todd Palin is one-eighth Eskimo, not full-blooded;

One eighth makes him a card carrying tribal member.

627 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:20:33pm

re: #612 Ward Cleaver
Went through photo albums for a homage to mom and dad. What a hoot.

628 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:20:35pm

re: #600 Elcid

I haven't been at LGF, that awful much over the past couple of years and Charles may have restricted what I'm about to say. So at the risk of being admonished or banned, is there really a good reason Markos Zuniga can still emit carbon?

Like, maggots could always use a few more...Maggots, right?

Carbon Dioxide makes trees grow?

629 J.D.  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:20:38pm

re: #619 EIDE_Interface

Yeah like that's going to help the MSM cause....

She supposedly went out of her way to see to it that he was fired, or something...
They're just piling on. Pile on enough shi* and maybe something will stick, y'know?

630 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:20:48pm

re: #621 lifeofthemind

Please not Powell. He and Armitage seriously backstabbed the President over the Plame case.

Armitage is a gossipy bitch.

631 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:20:59pm

re: #611 jcm

Flag Code:

(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

I did a few of those with my older boys when they were in the Boy Scouts....you cut the flag into strips and burn it carefully. It was a neat ceremony and it makes you proud to live in this country. I even got a medal for participating ;-) (and I did not toss it over the fence at the White House either)

632 DeafDog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:21:06pm

re: #571 chicagodudewhotrades

You are probably right. But, if Mav wins big and we get back the Congress
who knows? Granted. those are 2 HUGE 'if's' but hey, anything is possible. I have a Rasmussen Markets predication account. My Con-'president Obama' and Pro-'President McCain' contracts are doing well.


Bolton as Sec State would kick A and take names


If we get back Congress?

....I love the positive vibes, but that is a long, long shot.

633 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:21:12pm

re: #611 jcm

Flag Code:

(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

That's fine, but let's be realistic; we're talking about hundreds, maybe thousands of little plastic flags. So they're supposed to... keep them all.... somewhere... for decades, and then individually burn them? Again, does anyone really believe that either 1) there are no leftover little American flags after Republican events, or 2) if there are, they are never thrown away?

634 Syrah  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:21:13pm

re: #600 Elcid

Markos gave the left Ed Lamont.

It is better for us that he is against us than for us.

635 Dirk Diggler  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:21:29pm
Piper-gate for the cowlick on Trig!

TRIG PALIN WAS AN INSIDE JOB! ! ! ! 1 1 1

/Actually, if you think about it, that is technically correct in a physiological sense.

636 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:21:35pm

re: #431 MandyManners

He *IS* a jelly doughnut.

He *IS* The Big ZERO!

637 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:21:45pm

re: #610 yma o hyd

A Lizard said somewhere quite recently that Bolton would be NSA - no Senate hearings for that post ...
Would be a most excellent choice, if I may say so from foreign shores ...

That would be me. I would not expect Powell to be back at State - too many associations with Bush. State would be Joe Liebermann.

638 twincitiesgirl  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:21:52pm

Dr Sanity has an excellent post today (9/6) about the hypocrisy of the feminists regarding Palin. The best advice I got growing up was "think for yourself"-- no wonder I don't like the Democrats/liberals. They can't accept the fact that people may have different viewpoints than theirs and resort to name calling and other infantile behavior to express their displeasure. I have two words for you guys: GROW UP!

639 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:22:19pm
640 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:22:21pm

re: #622 jwb7605
I can't think of one that says that. The US flag code would be the definitive say.

641 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:22:28pm

re: #623 EIDE_Interface

So USAF doesn't believe in micromanagement?

We don't believe in it, no, but it does happen! LOL

642 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:22:30pm

re: #588 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Sec State: John Bolton
Sec Interior: Ted Nugent
Sec Def: David Petreaus

Who else, for what?

Romney - Energy
with special orders to get nuke plants built, offshore wells drilled and oil shale extracted.

643 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:22:30pm

re: #600 Elcid

That's a bit over-the-top, don't you think?.

What Markos deserves, more than anything else, is massive public humiliation. His massively over-inflated ego wouldn't stand it.

644 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:22:42pm

re: #633 Occasional Reader

That's fine, but let's be realistic; we're talking about hundreds, maybe thousands of little plastic flags. So they're supposed to... keep them all.... somewhere... for decades, and then individually burn them? Again, does anyone really believe that either 1) there are no leftover little American flags after Republican events, or 2) if there are, they are never thrown away?

Practically you're right.

I'd hope the RNCC would be a little more circumspect, in disposal methods.

645 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:22:44pm

Later folks!

646 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:22:46pm

re: #611 jcm

Flag Code:

(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

Unusable or desecrated sacred objects are to be burned, in a new fire if possible. Otherwise they are to be buried on sacred ground such as by a church or in a cemetery. If all this is not possible, then they should be sunk in water—moving water if possible. (This is pre-littering law—use your own discretion.)

647 Tom Kratman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:23:04pm

re: #603 lifeofthemind

Meant the Kennedy Yeltsin piece, thought the humor impaired pencil pushers would have been aghast at having a combat officer show up. It's a compliment to you and probably unfair to the Pentagon set. Bet most of them are itching to get back to regimental duty.

Ah.

Hell, I spent my share of time pushing pencils, too. Most of the staff weenines are as much line dogs as I was and many are more so.

648 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:23:05pm

re: #633 Occasional Reader

That's fine, but let's be realistic; we're talking about hundreds, maybe thousands of little plastic flags. So they're supposed to... keep them all.... somewhere... for decades, and then individually burn them? Again, does anyone really believe that either 1) there are no leftover little American flags after Republican events, or 2) if there are, they are never thrown away?

I would suspect that the "leftovers" would go to the next campaign event. Or be given out to the American Legions to be put on graves on Veterans Day or Memorial Day.

649 Moe Katz  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:23:15pm

re: #480 Mardukhai

The politically correct term for Eskimo is Inuit. They are really picky about that.

We don't say Eskimo at all in Canada. The etymology of the term is disputed, however [Link: www.answers.com...]

650 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:24:14pm

re: #601 Ward Cleaver

The one I went to was in WV. Must have run out by the time they got to you. It was an event put on my WV/KY/OH Tri-State area so fund from all three states R parties were involved.
I have a button from Nixon/Agnew and a poster of Nixon event. And buttons from Bush/Quayle and Bush/Cheney. Even have a Bush Teddy Bear. I treasure those items.

651 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:24:23pm

re: #628 ZoomieMSgt

Carbon Dioxide makes trees grow?

Ok...hatchling mistake. ;) Forgot the /sarc.

652 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:24:28pm

re: #632 DeafDog

If we get back Congress?

....I love the positive vibes, but that is a long, long shot.

I'm sensing that the bleeding may have stopped.
Amputations will be performed courtesy John McCain.

653 DeafDog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:24:44pm

re: #583 Spiny Norman

To be honest, I very much doubt Powell would want the job.

True, but I believe Johnny Mac when he says that he is going to find the people that he thinks are the best for every position. Powell might fit that bill for SecState in JSM's eyes (that's just a guess).

BTW - I also believe that Mac the Knife is not going to be slashing spending.

654 kansas  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:24:50pm

re: #643 Spiny Norman

That's a bit over-the-top, don't you think?.

What Markos deserves, more than anything else, is massive public humiliation. His massively over-inflated ego wouldn't stand it.

How can someone like that be humiliated? Seems like you would have to be aware of how far off the track you have gone.

655 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:25:04pm

re: #600 Elcid

I haven't been at LGF, that awful much over the past couple of years and Charles may have restricted what I'm about to say.

I've never seen Charles to restrict what you say unless you go over the top.

656 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:25:07pm

re: #519 ZoomieMSgt

Oh well... That's different. Thank you for continuing to serve!

657 HoosierHoops  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:25:17pm

re: #642 lifeofthemind

Romney - Energy
with special orders to get nuke plants built, offshore wells drilled and oil shale extracted.


Dick Cheeney- Sec. of education
/what is that sound?

658 Celtic Templar  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:25:17pm

re: #629 J.D.

She supposedly went out of her way to see to it that he was fired, or something...
They're just piling on. Pile on enough shi* and maybe something will stick, y'know?

'cept the trooper tased her nephew, threatened her sister and father, was drunk on duty ... I don't see the controversy - only someone looking to "get" her would.

659 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:25:29pm

re: #381 gop_patriot

Oh wow that made me cry. Thanks for posting it, I'm passing it on.

I just sent it to everyone in my email addy

660 George guy  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:25:45pm

re: #588 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Sec State: John Bolton
Sec Interior: Ted Nugent
Sec Def: David Petreaus

Who else, for what?

Attorney General: Fred Thompson
And move Nuge into Homeland Security in the midterm shuffle.

661 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:26:11pm

re: #620 ZoomieMSgt

Yes, though it goes a bit further I'd say. The USAF is run more like a dotcom, we have officers who think up the grand plan and then hand it down to the enlisted to figure out how to pull it off. Oh, and for the other services? The rumor is true, we really DO have Hawaiian Shirt and pinocolada Fridays. ;)

Always thought the Air Force was the viable alternative to military service.

662 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:26:47pm

re: #637 galloping granny

That would be me. I would not expect Powell to be back at State - too many associations with Bush. State would be Joe Liebermann.

I still think Joe Lieberman should stay in the Senate and remain a constant thorn in the side of the Democrats. Besides, I don't even want to think of the replacement that would be appointed. Ned Lament, anyone?

663 J.D.  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:27:06pm

re: #658 Celtic Templar

He certainly doesn't sound like the sort you'd want for a state policeman to me.

664 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:27:08pm

re: #660 George guy

Attorney General: Fred Thompson
And move Nuge into Homeland Security in the midterm shuffle.

Somebody mentioned Ted Nugent for Secretary of Interior.

665 DeafDog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:27:52pm

re: #610 yma o hyd

A Lizard said somewhere quite recently that Bolton would be NSA - no Senate hearings for that post ...
Would be a most excellent choice, if I may say so from foreign shores ...

Pending the election, we can Pencil that in.

666 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:28:00pm

re: #631 Desert Dog

I did a few of those with my older boys when they were in the Boy Scouts....you cut the flag into strips and burn it carefully. It was a neat ceremony and it makes you proud to live in this country. I even got a medal for participating ;-) (and I did not toss it over the fence at the White House either)


Niether did Hanoi John Kerry...

667 jcm  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:28:03pm

re: #661 lifeofthemind

Always thought the Air Force was the viable alternative to military service.

I had it real tough in the Air Force, once on the firing range, we got fed C-rats! My god the horror of it.
/

668 lawhawk  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:28:19pm

Since we're talking about who might make up the McCain staff, here's a few other positions:

Press Secretary: Penn and Teller (because if you can't get 'em on the facts, baffle 'em with the BS!)
Sec. Def: Lieberman (what, you thought I was going to go with Kucinich?!)
BATF: Ted Nugent (Cat scratch feva!)
Attorney General: Rudy! Rudy! Rudy! (Mandy, that's for ya!)
Sec. State: Fred Thompson (The Russians wont take a dump without a plan)
Sec. Energy (eliminated): Markos has been tapped to solve all energy needs as his head is spinning at 186,000 rps, generates enough power to solve the US energy needs, as he realizes all his plans have backfired.

669 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:28:21pm

re: #661 lifeofthemind

Always thought the Air Force was the viable alternative to military service.

LOL Very well, I asked for it. I'm assigned to an Army unit, have been for almost 8 years. God I miss civilization. I have to go through decon before they let me back on an airbase. ;)

670 marjoriemoon  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:28:22pm

Anyone who would believe this nonsense is a fool (wonder how many of them served on a jury....yeesh). However, the majority of the people posting there also thought it was crap.

Do you remember the Obama rumors? Do you still believe them? Michelle's whitey statement. Obama was sworn into office on a Quaran. His birth certificate is false. There's no flag on his plane and many more.

You're never going to stop hateful gossip on the internet (or in life either). I can only hope people are intelligent enough to sort it out.

Here's a site. On the Issues. Really just snippets of info and I don't know how complete it is, but I find it's a good launching point for more research.

Here are the two sites for Sarah Palin and Joe Biden:
[Link: www.ontheissues.org...]
[Link: www.ontheissues.org...]

After all, it's only the issues that should matter anyway.

671 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:28:52pm

re: #638 twincitiesgirl

She's back? *Grins*

672 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:28:53pm

re: #667 jcm

I had it real tough in the Air Force, once on the firing range, we got fed C-rats! My god the horror of it.
/

I liked C-Rat Ham and Lima Beans...:)

673 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:29:01pm

re: #657 HoosierHoops

Dick Cheeney- Sec. of education
/what is that sound?

The mere mention of that will cause LLL heads to explode world-wide.

I love it.

674 chicagodudewhotrades  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:29:30pm

re: #623 EIDE_Interface

I was USN in the early '90's. Our dept E-6 had 18 years in and was just a burn-out counting the days to civ-land. It gave us E-4's the chance to pretty much run stuff. it was a challenge but also a great experience.

675 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:29:31pm

re: #627 pingjockey

For my Mom and Step-Dad's 40th I looked on the web and downloaded music that was popular the year they got married. Made a CD and then got the headlines of the day, the shows that were on TV, and movies that were playing in the theatres. Put this in the CD booklet with their picture on it. I felt so good giving them that. They loved it.

676 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:29:39pm

I got 3 sisters-in-law here attending my daughters baby shower.
These women are conservative (Western Nebraska).
Showed them the Flag article, they're gone, I've got to move over to the Flags thread for them now ...

677 yma o hyd  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:29:46pm

re: #637 galloping granny

That would be me. I would not expect Powell to be back at State - too many associations with Bush. State would be Joe Liebermann.

Ahh - I had a senior moment there, couldn't remember who brought it up, just that we discussed it - thanks!

678 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:30:24pm

re: #674 chicagodudewhotrades

I was USN in the early '90's. Our dept E-6 had 18 years in and was just a burn-out counting the days to civ-land. It gave us E-4's the chance to pretty much run stuff. it was a challenge but also a great experience.

Sounds like good prep for the private sector. Of course there are bad groups in companies that have micro-managers too.

679 George guy  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:30:28pm

re: #664 jwb7605

That's what a midterm shuffle is for.

680 debutaunt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:30:41pm

re: #575 gearhead

...to the less fortunate who have been left flagless by Bush's policies.

hahahahahahahaa

681 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:31:32pm

re: #643 Spiny Norman

That's a bit over-the-top, don't you think?.

What Markos deserves, more than anything else, is massive public humiliation. His massively over-inflated ego wouldn't stand it.


He is weird, he might enjoy it.

682 galloping granny  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:31:43pm

re: #662 Spiny Norman

I still think Joe Lieberman should stay in the Senate and remain a constant thorn in the side of the Democrats. Besides, I don't even want to think of the replacement that would be appointed. Ned Lament, anyone?

Joe has invaluable foreign affairs experience. And on top of that, the Dems have vowed to strip him of all of his committee seats and chairmanships to punish him for supporting McCain. That would leave him without much to do other than cast a vote. He would be far more use in the cabinet than doing nothing in the Senate.

683 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:31:54pm

re: #668 lawhawk

Since we're talking about who might make up the McCain staff, here's a few other positions:

Press Secretary: Penn and Teller (because if you can't get 'em on the facts, baffle 'em with the BS!)
Sec. Def: Lieberman (what, you thought I was going to go with Kucinich?!)
BATF: Ted Nugent (Cat scratch feva!)
Attorney General: Rudy! Rudy! Rudy! (Mandy, that's for ya!)
Sec. State: Fred Thompson (The Russians wont take a dump without a plan)
Sec. Energy (eliminated): Markos has been tapped to solve all energy needs as his head is spinning at 186,000 rps, generates enough power to solve the US energy needs, as he realizes all his plans have backfired.

Sec. Education (eliminated): if there's any Federal Department that has done more damage to the country as a whole than the DOE, it's Education.

684 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:31:58pm

re: #650 newsjunkie_ky

The one I went to was in WV. Must have run out by the time they got to you. It was an event put on my WV/KY/OH Tri-State area so fund from all three states R parties were involved.
I have a button from Nixon/Agnew and a poster of Nixon event. And buttons from Bush/Quayle and Bush/Cheney. Even have a Bush Teddy Bear. I treasure those items.

It was cool being at W's final campaign stop, though. Picked up the free ticket days earlier, and then waited in line for an hour at SMU (after riding buses from a nearby DART park-and-ride transit center). We knew when W and Laura were about to come in when the USSS guys multiplied around the stage inside Moody Coliseum.

685 kansas  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:32:03pm

Anybody think it more than strange that the Dow dropped so much and the reports on the economy just happened on the day of McCain's speech?

686 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:32:53pm

Sample C-4 ration contents

A sample C-4 ration (stamped March 1954) contained:

* 1 Instruction sheet

687 HDrepub  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:33:28pm

re: #672 Dustyvet

I liked C-Rat Ham and Lima Beans...:)

Really, you like them. I didn't know anyone who did before now. Glad to meet you sir.
I could eat them if I was really hungry, but to say I liked them, nah.

688 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:33:32pm

re: #686 Dustyvet

Sample C-4 ration contents

A sample C-4 ration (stamped March 1954) contained:

* 1 Instruction sheet

Sample C-4 ration contents

A sample C-4 ration (stamped March 1954) contained:

* 1 Instruction sheet
* 2 Cheese bars (1.5 net ounces)
* 2 "Cereal Class 5" bars (1.5 net ounces)
* 3 Type XII Style 1 Enriched chocolate bar (1 ounce)
* 1 "Jelly Bar" (2 ounces)
* 2 "Fruit Cake Bars" (2 ounces)
* 3 sticks Topps peppermint chewing gum
* 3 Domino sugar packets
* 2 Nestea "soluble tea product"
* 1 Pure soluble sugar
* 1 "Soluble cream product"
* 1 bottle Water Purification Tablets, Individual, Iodine
* 1 plastic bag

689 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:34:06pm

re: #682 galloping granny

Joe has invaluable foreign affairs experience. And on top of that, the Dems have vowed to strip him of all of his committee seats and chairmanships to punish him for supporting McCain. That would leave him without much to do other than cast a vote. He would be far more use in the cabinet than doing nothing in the Senate.

That's only if they gain enough seats not to need his vote. At this point, that is no longer a sure thing.

690 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:34:25pm

re: #686 Dustyvet

We had the old dark brown MRE's when I joined. Dehydrated pork patties, chili-mac and the dreaded four fingers of death.

691 DeafDog  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:34:39pm

re: #662 Spiny Norman

I still think Joe Lieberman should stay in the Senate and remain a constant thorn in the side of the Democrats. Besides, I don't even want to think of the replacement that would be appointed. Ned Lament, anyone?


Lieberman will be expelled from the Democratic Caucuas when the new congress convenes. The endorsement at the convention was too much for them to accept. He'll be in the cabinet somewhere. If State is not the right job, then maybe he'll get the UN ambassodarship.

I've heard him mentioned as SecDef. I don't like that idea.

692 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:35:26pm

So Lieberman will simply switch his party designation to the (R). About time.

693 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:35:51pm

re: #687 HDrepub

Really, you like them. I didn't know anyone who did before now. Glad to meet you sir.
I could eat them if I was really hungry, but to say I liked them, nah.

Sure beat Ham and Eggs Chopped...:) I had never seen OD Green Eggs before I got in the Army.

694 jorline  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:35:51pm

re: #685 kansas

Anybody think it more than strange that the Dow dropped so much and the reports on the economy just happened on the day of McCain's speech?

All the Hollywood stars selling their stocks and packing for the move to Canada or Europe after hearing Sarah Palin's speech.

695 ZoomieMSgt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:35:52pm

Heading for the Flag post, see you there.

696 twincitiesgirl  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:36:23pm

bbl--my old xp doesn't like lgf for some reason and my vista checked out 2 days ago. arghhhhhhhhh.........

697 HDrepub  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:37:11pm

re: #693 Dustyvet

Sure beat Ham and Eggs Chopped...:) I had never seen OD Green Eggs before I got in the Army.

I can certainly agree on that heh. Must of been those green eggs and ham Dr. Suess wrote about.

698 JHW  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:37:24pm

re: #626 galloping granny

No disagreement there Granny. Here in Washington we've had a bit of controversy on that, I believe it is up to various tribes to individually decide their criteria for membership. A couple of the very, very small tribes have a lot of Scandinavian appearing members (I.m thinking S'Klallam for one,maybe the Washington LGFers can remember this), this came up during the Boldt decision Fishing Rights controversy, some complaints were made against them by opponents of that decision.

A personal friend of mine and former employer became chairman of the Cowlitz tribe that sought federal recognition for years , originally they were lumped in with several other tribes and allotted land on another tribes reservation far away, which nearly extinguished the tribe , and while reforming it and seeking recognition they came up against all these kind of things as to "what makes a tribal member". Basically from what I understand it is up to each individual tribe what degree of ancestry qualifies one to be a tribal member. You probably know as much or more about this than I do, I would guess it's the same in Vermont . Another co-worker I worked with for many years disappeared off my radar, then lo and behold many years later I found he was chair of the Passamaquoddys in Maine. I worked with him about 10 years, logging and he'd never expressed an interest in going back to Maine. I distinctly remember his two younger brothers working with us, they spoke no English, and the language almost sounde similar to bird song to me, something like the South African Bushmen.

699 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:38:01pm

re: #684 Ward Cleaver
Zell was with W at the one I went to. He was fabulous.

700 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:38:54pm

re: #512 pingjockey

I really doubt the repubs would just throw the flags away. I saw a crap load of my fellow VFW comrades and they wouldn't allow that nonsense. All the donks had to do was call the VFW/Amer. Legion/Boy scouts and tell them come and get all these flags. But no, they shit canned them.

That's because they really think of them as shit to be canned.

701 Guy_Montag  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:39:37pm

There's already a KOS diary with this smear, posted Fri Sep 05, 2008 at 02:48:10 PM PDT. It's still up.

Link: Palin On Obama Primary Victory: "So Sambo Beat the Bitch!"

702 rightymouse  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:41:42pm

Am coming in late here...but all this tells me is that liberals are scared to death that the adults will continue to be in charge at the White House.

And the Kos memory hole rants are hilarious. Desperation.

703 semper Gumbi  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:41:51pm

re: #661 lifeofthemind

Always thought the Air Force was the viable alternative to military service.

Nah, that's the Coast Guard!

704 mailmars  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:43:16pm

re: #127 ZoomieMSgt

Oh and hello one and all, this hatchling has been waiting long for his egg to crack! I'm honored to be among such hearty and brave centurions of truth.

That's nice.... where's the beer?

705 wolfie  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:43:27pm

re: #595 Yankee Division Son

Joe Lieberman, Sec. Health and Human Services

No, no, no.
He's a big government liberal! Don't let him near that kind of stuff!
Homeland Security (if not State Dept.)

706 jorline  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:48:46pm

re: #701 Guy_Montag

There's already a KOS diary with this smear, posted Fri Sep 05, 2008 at 02:48:10 PM PDT. It's still up.

Link: Palin On Obama Primary Victory: "So Sambo Beat the Bitch!"

You link is what this thread's addressing...go to the top of this thread.

707 Colonel Panik  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:49:15pm

Sarah Palin is going to make the left and the MSM eat the yellow snow from where the huskies go.

708 Reality_Wrangler  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:49:37pm

re: #606 Celtic Templar

The interviewer that did Wooten was clearly put off by the guy. I saw it last night on ac/dc cooper, they were all kind of sadfaced because it was clear that this guy was pretty white trash and that he was going to make a really poor victim to exploit. The spin might be different today, my wife hijacked the remote so I can't surf right now....

709 Guy_Montag  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 12:55:37pm

re: #706 jorline

You link is what this thread's addressing...go to the top of this thread.

The link I provided is a different diary, talking about the same smear. As far as I can tell. It has "interesting" KOS comments as well.

Link: Palin On Obama Primary Victory: "So Sambo Beat the Bitch!"

710 Wild Knight  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 1:04:29pm

re: #300 galloping granny

Actually, Obama repeated the shahada on national television during the same interview where he declared it to be the most beautiful sound in the world. That is why so many have referred to him speaking Arabic - quite good Arabic.

From everything I have read, the Muslim world considers Obama to be muslim, not a muslim apostate.

re: #300 galloping granny

Interesting. For me, the most beautiful sound in the world is the sound of Church bells ringing in the evening. Or the first verses of the Te Deum in Gregorian Chant. I'm Catholic.

I'm from the Southern European Mediterranean where there are Churches every 100 metres.

711 Kulhwch  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 1:09:37pm
To verify what friends were writing, I called the St. Paul Mayor’s Office (615.266.8510) where I was directed to the police (651.291.1111). A PR woman for the cops said I had to talk to the Secret Service (612.348.1800), which refused to answer any questions but asked for the spelling of my name before telling me to call Homeland Security (202.282.8000) where repeated calls were not returned.

I tracked down the cell phone number of the St. Paul convention office of the Republican National Committee where the man who answered claimed to have no idea what I was talking about, helpfully suggesting I call the police before suddenly asking how I got the number. Ring around the rosy.

It was like trying to get an answer from Dick Cheney’s office. Translation: The e-mails were accurate.

-- Placid Lake Woebegon Begets a Nasty Police State

So, Charley James (" ... is an American journalist, author and essayist who lives in Toronto.") believes that no confirmation is confirmation enough?  He's the source of what the Kooze Kids are ranting about.  He's also a huge Obama supporter who contributes quite a lot to their official website, as you can see by looking here, here, here, or here.  I don't think he lives in Toronto because he's really an 'Ex-Pat', I think it has more to do with his love interests (as a good Midwestern boy afraid of his lusts, perhaps), based on his previous life in San Francisco.  Maybe someone should tell him its really okay.  At any rate, his bio is here.

I did find one really disturbed thing amongst all of his other baseless accusations, half-truths, magazine filler pieces, and sodden fantasies (that's an hour of reading I'll never get back again!), in his reactions to Sarah Palin's speech (in between bitching about how her talk makes him overeat, etc.), I found this:

She doesn't really know what it is like to raise special needs kids she's just 5 months into it. Wait until her heartbreaks as he struggling with things she took for granted with her other children and then failing not because he lacks the will but lacks the capacity. Wait 40 years from now when she doesn't know where he will go after she dies. Hell, wait 'til she tries to teach him abstinence.*

Enough said about that, and him.

}:)     [* Yes, he is that much of a hack!]

712 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 1:19:23pm

re: #649 Moe Katz

We don't say Eskimo at all in Canada. The etymology of the term is disputed, however [Link: www.answers.com...]

Moe -

Perhaps we might call them "First Alaskans" - a neutral enough term - like all 'y'all use "First Canadians."

-S-

713 Wild Knight  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 1:23:17pm

re: #541 MandyManners

Oh, no! I screw up all the time. I still can't figure out when to use "which" and when to use "that".

Which is a neuter gender relative pronoun. That can be a demonstrative pronoun or a conjunction.

714 Elcid  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 1:30:13pm

re: #643 Spiny Norman

That's a bit over-the-top, don't you think?.

What Markos deserves, more than anything else, is massive public humiliation. His massively over-inflated ego wouldn't stand it.

Well maybe we could fill the bastard with helium, cork his ass real tight and float him in the Macy's Thankgiving Day Parade.

That gives you his "massive public humiliation" and if they pump to much in the dear boy, NYC's street cleaners are use to cleaning up that kind of sh crap...yea, crap, anyway.

Howz Dat? LOL.

715 stuiec  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 1:36:30pm

re: #206 goddessoftheclassroom

re: #243 mean Gene

In Joe Biden's self-centered universe, since the truck driver is dead, he can't be hurt if his memory is besmirched by an accusation of drunk driving. The fact that the truck driver was, by all accounts, haunted and wracked with guilt for the rest of his life after that accident doesn't figure into Biden's calculus. And that the truck driver has surviving children who don't deserve having their father's name ground into the mud never even occurred to him.

But the part of this story I most fear is that the accumulation of all of these pieces of Biden's record and character will force Barack to drop him from the ticket quickly and put Hillary on instead. (Although I am pretty confident that she'd turn down the offer and let Barack go down to defeat on his own.)

716 bungie  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 1:40:32pm

I've noticed and been puzzled by the lack of bumper stickers over this election. I drive 50 miles daily and have noticed this for weeks and weeks. My husband and I have the only McCain bumper stickers I've seen, and though I have seen several Obama stickers, it's been rare.

What gives?

We drove to California (San Diego) last weekend and saw not one sticker there!

Two people have come up to me and asked if I wasn't afraid of getting my car keyed! I feel as though everybody got a message that I missed (wouldn't be the first time).

717 Catttt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 2:10:23pm

re: #69 quickjustice

Eskimos? Inuit! ;-)

Inuit? Yup'ik! :D

718 Emery Calame  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 2:12:23pm

re: #75 sbvft contributor

When a Fresh Fields opened up in liberal Philadlphia, it was instantaneously flooded with customers, putting lots of small organic groceries out of business. Liberals love their big box stores too. They just won't admit it.

Key word in italics.

It's a culture war folks. THEY want US stuffed into tiny apartments and riding buses, trains or bikes to work and eating a fixed diet to be determined by them. They want more room and more stuff and think that all the little people should just be quiet and hand it over out of some induced sense of completely artificial moral obligation. We are stinky, gauche, backward, and jingoistic and should therefore be restricted to a "rest home" like environment for the benefit of what they consider good taste. We only need to exist for elections and the day right before the elections and then "poof" we should all invisibly slink back to our pits and alleyways in the phantom zone so they don't need to look at us anymore.


Amazingly they actually try to talk us into this. Amazingly they sometimes succeed. They presume that they may prevail entirely due to gradualism and voter apathy and ignorance.

719 paint-right  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 2:21:24pm

"Amazingly they actually try to talk us into this. Amazingly they sometimes succeed. They presume that they may prevail entirely due to gradualism and voter apathy and ignorance"

from 718 emery

Don't 'they" ever evolve? even as they age?

difficult, I suppose, as liberalism = righteousness

720 Catttt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 2:32:57pm

Charles, new diaries spouting this "Kos meme" keep popping up.

Here is one: Palin: "F**king Eskimo's" & "Arctic Arabs"
by Winter Rabbit
Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 08:48:59 AM PDT

Ton-o-Kos comments say "delete! delete!" - some point out that Sarah's husband is part "Eskimo," a fact not mentioned in the diary. This diary also says Big Oil is detroying Alaska. He/she apparently takes it upon him/herself to protect the natives, most of whom either work in the oil field or derive benefits and salaries from same.

It is deeply ironic to me that some lefties say Gov. Palin is racist, some (smaller but there) make racist remarks about Native Americans, and some (even smaller) complain that she is somehow trying to co-opt the non-white vote by being married to a guy who is part Yup'ik.

Damned if you do - damned if you don't.

721 stuiec  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 2:37:18pm

re: #720 Catttt

Charles, new diaries spouting this "Kos meme" keep popping up.

Here is one: Palin: "F**king Eskimo's" & "Arctic Arabs"
by Winter Rabbit
Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 08:48:59 AM PDT

Ton-o-Kos comments say "delete! delete!" - some point out that Sarah's husband is part "Eskimo," a fact not mentioned in the diary. This diary also says Big Oil is detroying Alaska. He/she apparently takes it upon him/herself to protect the natives, most of whom either work in the oil field or derive benefits and salaries from same.

It is deeply ironic to me that some lefties say Gov. Palin is racist, some (smaller but there) make racist remarks about Native Americans, and some (even smaller) complain that she is somehow trying to co-opt the non-white vote by being married to a guy who is part Yup'ik.

Damned if you do - damned if you don't.

The Inuit in Alaska rely on Big Oil for the gasoline to run their snow machines and whaling boats, which they in turn rely on to hunt for a large share of their food supply.

A MATTER OF SURVIVAL

Boats and four-wheelers are used to hunt. Besides food, the hides are used for clothing and to line whaling boats.

This whaling community of 4,000 relies on the land and sea to survive.

Animal hides hang from lines. Armed hunters search the Arctic Ocean looking for bearded seals. Off-road vehicles return home weighed down with fresh-caught caribou. There are ceremonies in the center of town to celebrate a successful bowhead hunt.

At a grocery store two blocks away, a loaf of bread goes for $6; a gallon of milk, $10; a dozen eggs, $4.60; a pound of strawberries, $10; a half-pound of lunch meat is $7.

"If we had to go to the store and buy everything, we'd probably be on food stamps by now -- if we didn't have our land and sea animals," said North Slope Borough Mayor Edward Itta. "More and more our take-home pay is going to be spent buying gas to go get caribou, to go get fish, to go to our camps and gather our food."

Fuel-driven changes to tradition are the norm across the Bush.

Henry Horner lives 300 miles southwest of Barrow in the village of Kobuk. He fears gas could reach $12 a gallon by the fall hunting season.

"Normally I run into six or more boats on the water this time," he said. "Where I went on the Kobuk, I was the only one there. I'm still wondering how many of us will be able to go hunting moose and caribou this year."

Barrow is better off than many villages. The community gets subsidized natural gas from nearby fields. It has benefited from oil field property taxes that have helped build new schools and municipal buildings.

722 pbird  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 2:38:46pm

AAAaaai! People. Please don't use the term Eskimo. Among the native tribes its considered very offensive. Also, there is no tribe called Eskimo. Don't know if this has been commented on yet, so I thought I better say it. It could be construed to be racist easily, just using that term.

723 Macker  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 2:42:00pm

Charles:
I'm trying to display that web archive I saved, but all it's showing up as is an XML page:

Link

How can I get around this?

724 Macker  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 2:42:36pm

re: #722 pbird

AAAaaai! People. Please don't use the term Eskimo. Among the native tribes its considered very offensive. Also, there is no tribe called Eskimo. Don't know if this has been commented on yet, so I thought I better say it. It could be construed to be racist easily, just using that term.

What about the Edmonton Eskimos Fans?

725 pbird  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 2:50:32pm

re: #724 Macker

What about the Edmonton Eskimos Fans?

That's different!

726 edr  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 2:58:03pm

Hmmmm.

So. Palin has racist attitudes towards Eskimos?

Didn't she marry an Eskimo? Her husband is a member of an Eskimo tribe.

So she's so racist she married and had children by an Eskimo?

This nonsense is making my head explode.

727 cambronne  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 3:35:41pm

The hatred is all based in fear. If she was a lightweight, they would just laugh her off and ignore her. (Think Dan Quayle)
Instead, they are confronted by a woman who is everything that they could want in their own candidate, but is conservative.
I suspect that the ultra liberals see her as a traitor to the cause they feel she must follow with them simply because she is female.

I have seen very little in the way of substantive analysis of her ability as a governor. I have seen lots in the way of attacks on her family.
The weirdest one I saw was a post by someone who criticized the fact that she had her whole family out there just "for show".

Why in God's name would a candidate not have his/her entire family at such an event?

728 cambronne  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 3:38:30pm

re: #726 edr

Hmmmm.

So. Palin has racist attitudes towards Eskimos?

Didn't she marry an Eskimo? Her husband is a member of an Eskimo tribe.

So she's so racist she married and had children by an Eskimo?

This nonsense is making my head explode.

Don't inject facts into the analysis. Facts are irrelevant especially when they completely contradict the hatred these people are trying to spread.

Reminds me of a quote:

"The mind of a fanatic is like the pupil of an eye, the more light you shine into it, the tighter it constricts."

729 RobCon  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 3:47:11pm

The Kos Kiddie Klowns are Krapping their Krusty Knickers with inKredible Kontorted Kunvolutions.

730 Biff  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 3:51:03pm

Come on, the Dems are feeling cheated. Sarah Palin is stealing their election.

731 Sir Lurksalot  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 3:52:37pm

Palin's Anita Hill has been found.

732 Olderthandirt  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 4:07:55pm

1. Charles: thank you for wading through the slime of that Daily Kos sewer pit so we don't have to.
2. My Great Grandfather's Great Grandmother might have been Jewish but the supporting documents are lost. So under the "one drop" rule, while I'm Scot, English, Welsh, Irish, Danish, Swedish, Swiss German, French, German, and Russian, I'm really only Jewish; Next year in Jerusalem. That means, all those Nazi, Socialist, racist bastards out there can get kiss my royal red ass and the 2nd Amendment means I can support that statement when and if necessary. The shitty part is that while this means I'm a member of a pretty large and good tribe, there's no tribal dividend paid out.

733 jas  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 4:53:46pm
She doesn't really know what it is like to raise special needs kids she's just 5 months into it. Wait until her heartbreaks as he struggling with things she took for granted with her other children and then failing not because he lacks the will but lacks the capacity. Wait 40 years from now when she doesn't know where he will go after she dies. Hell, wait 'til she tries to teach him abstinence.*

Just wow...How can anyone cut through this twisted mass of so-called logic? The insinuation is, of course, the child should have been aborted. Of course, this fucktard only has the best interests of the child in mind, right? I guess that's what progressive thought is all about...in that one paragraph the sheer arrogance of those on the left is there for all to see...the common people can't make proper decisions...we must make them for them. That passage just made my skin crawl.

734 hazzyday  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 5:29:18pm

re: #85 Cicero05

Bill Whittle has a great analysis piece in NRO Online today about the potentially seismic implications that Sarah has for the Repubs. Well worth the read.

This is the first time in years that I feel proud and excited to be a Republican conservative.

I noted the part about the Democratic party being taken over by radicals and I agree.

735 hazzyday  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 5:59:51pm

re: #130 SlartyBartfast

Irony meter pegging out...

From Flopping Aces' great post, Palin’s Trooper’Gate: Beating MSM distortions to the truth

Great story on floppingaces, should be crossposted at all blogs everywhere. And hopefully some MSM outlet will pick it up and give them credit.

736 Kulhwch  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 6:41:13pm
re: #733 jas
She doesn't really know what it is like to raise special needs kids she's just 5 months into it. Wait until her heartbreaks as he struggling with things she took for granted with her other children and then failing not because he lacks the will but lacks the capacity. Wait 40 years from now when she doesn't know where he will go after she dies. Hell, wait 'til she tries to teach him abstinence.*

Just wow...How can anyone cut through this twisted mass of so-called logic? The insinuation is, of course, the child should have been aborted. Of course, this fucktard only has the best interests of the child in mind, right? I guess that's what progressive thought is all about...in that one paragraph the sheer arrogance of those on the left is there for all to see...the common people can't make proper decisions...we must make them for them. That passage just made my skin crawl.

Yes, that's exactly what they're implying, that a dead baby would have been better than an inconvenient baby.  I note, btw, that when I go back to look at the original page, they took Charley's name off of it and are attributing it to someone named Deidre now.  Or maybe that's Charley's alternative name for when he's feeling mellow.  I note that the Google cache doesn't have it anymore, and though I searched with Google before and found it, Google doesn't find it anymore.  Good way to cover tracks.

}:)     [So much for the strength of Charley's convictions ... ]

737 Timbre  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 8:34:18pm

So Palin is allegedly (falsely) "racist, sexist, vindictive, and mean." I'm all that and a disbelieving, infidel, apostate to boot!

738 Guy_Montag  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 8:39:30pm

Wonkette is carrying this slanderous attack as well.
Link: Obviously, SP is Racist

I'll remember, if no one else in the MSM does.

739 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:34:47pm

re: #139 Old Buick Tanker

Water, by definition, is a clear, colorless, tasteless liquid.

Which is why I laugh so loudly when some Nancy-Boy tells me how good his bottled water tastes.

What? Now Old Buick, we may be on the same team, but I can't let this one go by. If you can't taste the difference between water from a spring and water from a city reservoir, or if you can't taste the difference between water that has chlorine or minerals in it and water that doesn't, then your taste buds are impaired! I cannot drink the water in Israel (I have tried for FOUR years) because it makes me absolutely nauseated, and the nausea will last half the day. My husband had to install a special water filter that removes a lot of junk, and now I can drink it.

I know we like to poke fun at absurd people, but in this instance, there really is a huge difference between certain types of water.

740 KLFVan  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:37:27pm

re: #352 goddessoftheclassroom

Very moving video. Succinctly makes the case for voting FOR McCain/Palin. They get it.

741 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 10:43:38pm

re: #245 livefreeor die

I saw that on another site. It's disgusting-their view of their country's flag is that it's a prop until the television cameras go away. They could have contacted the American Legion or the Boy Scouts who would have taken care of the flags when they were done with them. Of course, that would require them to know about the American Legion and Boy Scouts.


I don't understand why they passed out U.S. flags to begin with. I thought it was uncool to wave an American flag. Don't they even know what they stand for? How can anyone vote for a party that cannot consistently stand on its principles?

I'm surprised they haven't designed and manufactured a "world flag" yet. It would have as its main symbol a crescent, of course.

742 Emery Calame  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:21:34pm

re: #741 American Jewess In Jerusalem

I don't understand why they passed out U.S. flags to begin with. I thought it was uncool to wave an American flag. Don't they even know what they stand for? How can anyone vote for a party that cannot consistently stand on its principles?

I'm surprised they haven't designed and manufactured a "world flag" yet. It would have as its main symbol a crescent, of course.

I'm thinking it would be a "turn A" symbol and a Peace sign above a globe surrounded by a garland. It would be a "scratch and sniff" symbol that smelled like a mixture of manure, vomit, opiates, and fear (if you were dumb enough to scratch it).

743 LittleGreenFavre  Sat, Sep 6, 2008 11:50:54pm

re: #741 American Jewess In Jerusalem

I'm surprised they haven't designed and manufactured a "world flag" yet. It would have as its main symbol a crescent, of course.

It's not necessary. As followers of the great BHO, "citizen of the world", they may pledge their allegiance to the UN flag. They're halfway there anyway.

744 sdhawgman  Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:22:52am

When they attack Sarah for allegedly trying to get her ex brother in law Trooper Whooten fired why doesn't the MSM mention that he Tasered his Stepson and was caught drinking beer in the Squad Car?

Hell if he had killed someone with this history of beligerant behavior and hadn't made an attempt to fire him they would be attacking her for cronyism.

When the Public finds out how DANGEROUS this State Trooper is they'll lynch him themselves...

745 cambronne  Sun, Sep 7, 2008 3:35:21pm

re: #744 sdhawgman

When they attack Sarah for allegedly trying to get her ex brother in law Trooper Whooten fired why doesn't the MSM mention that he Tasered his Stepson and was caught drinking beer in the Squad Car?

Hell if he had killed someone with this history of beligerant behavior and hadn't made an attempt to fire him they would be attacking her for cronyism.

When the Public finds out how DANGEROUS this State Trooper is they'll lynch him themselves...

-------------------------------------------------- ------------
Can you imagine the outcry if she had failed to fire him after those incidents?
From a legal standpoint, if that trooper were to ever harm anyone in the course of his duties, a strong argument could be made that the State was already on notice that he was a risk to the public at large.

The guy sounds pretty unstable and was a lawsuit waiting to happen as long as he was on the force.


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