He's toast.

Untested on the International stage? The Dems must hate him as much as they hate Palin.

Can't wait to hear all about Obama's plan to attack.

condi seems so naive.
and above her pay grade.

He was only the mayor of a small village in Pakistan...

He is also untested on the international stage

I can hear a moonbat now: Well, if he's good enough for Pakistan, what's the problem with BHO?

Mr. Ten Percent

/well, at least we should be able to bribe him

bah, I called this one weeks and weeks ago. Does that make me Rovian when it comes to Pakistan politics?

The encouraging thing in all of this is that the war with AQ and the Taliban against Pakistan now is real, and PPP can't back down and make peace the way Mushy tried. The emnity goes back too far, and they've figured out that AQ and Baitullah are head hunting; it's now a "kill them before they kill us" situation.

Rice drinks the taqiyya koolaid.

The US will have to work with this man as this state has the greatest potential to harm US interests, or fall into terrorist/jihadist hands.

The future is wide open and interesting.

An Islamic state (first modern state) viewed as an infidel puppet will cause a real problem among conservative/traditional elements in the region.

one to watch!

This is going to be a mess...

Not that I'm much for maintaining the balance of power, but in Pakistan, it's fairly well essential. Guy had damn well better be stronger than he looks, or Pakistan will make A Song of Ice and Fire look like a heroic tale by comparison.

re: #10 hmmm

The US will have to work with this man as this state has the greatest potential to harm US interests, or fall into terrorist/jihadist hands.

The future is wide open and interesting.

An Islamic state (first modern state) viewed as an infidel puppet will cause a real problem among conservative/traditional elements in the region.

one to watch!

Wasn't Mushareff (sp?) viewed as an infidel puppet?

Rice optimistic after meeting Gadhafi
"We're off to a good start," Rice says after meeting Libyan leader; says US enemies 'not permanent'.

/yep and US allies are not permanent right Mr Zardari?

Wonderful.

He is at best a thief, at worst insane.

Lotsa' GMTA this afternoon.

re: #12 Bard

Not that I'm much for maintaining the balance of power, but in Pakistan, it's fairly well essential. Guy had damn well better be stronger than he looks, or Pakistan will make A Song of Ice and Fire look like a heroic tale by comparison.

A fellow George R.R. Martin reader! *high five*

re: #15 stevieray

Wonderful.

He is at best a thief, at worst insane.

Don't be narrow minded, he can be both!
/its a dessert topping and a floor cleaner

Re; Christheprofessor.

Musharaff was a military hard man, with the ability to wield power via the military.
Who has this guys back when push comes to shove, the army won't condone a civil war in pakistan.

re: #19 hmmm

Re; Christheprofessor.

Musharaff was a military hard man, with the ability to wield power via the military.
Who has this guys back when push comes to shove, the army won't condone a civil war in pakistan.

No disagreement, was just commenting on the "infidel puppet of the West" aspect.

re: #8 Thanos

bah, I called this one weeks and weeks ago. Does that make me Rovian when it comes to Pakistan politics?

The encouraging thing in all of this is that the war with AQ and the Taliban against Pakistan now is real, and PPP can't back down and make peace the way Mushy tried. The emnity goes back too far, and they've figured out that AQ and Baitullah are head hunting; it's now a "kill them before they kill us" situation.

Rovian, Thanos. Rovian.

And at least it's not Nawaz Sharif!
/impossible odds on that to begin with, but I still feel relief

The ISI and Pakistan military have all the power. Both institutions are lousy with Islamists. Zardari rules as long as the military allows.

.....egggsellent... a community organizer is handed the reigns of power. Time to make some popcorn.

re: #21 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It was actually an easy call to make if you understand the big party dynamics in Pakistan, much easier to call than any US election in the past 24 years.

re: #7 Killian Bundy

/well, at least we should be able to bribe him

"K-B" - Precisely! -S-

re: #2 USA

Untested on the International stage? The Dems must hate him as much as they hate Palin.

Or Obama.

Isn't comforting knowing Obama is essentially - clueless...

re: #9 jenv

Rice drinks the taqiyya koolaid.

What's she going to do, dump on the guy before he's done ANYTHING?

We're a lot better with Pakistan out of the hands of Islamists and on our side in the WOT.

Its in the USA's interest, as well as Pakistan's interest, and Zardari's interest for us to support this guy at this point, no matter what level of competence he has.

So what does India want? Kashmir and Punjab?

re: #24 Thanos

It was actually an easy call to make if you understand the big party dynamics in Pakistan, much easier to call than any US election in the past 24 years.

Yeah. Not being as up-to-date on them as you, I was wondering if the voters would balk at Zardani himself. After all, the son was installed as titular head of the party after his mother's assassination. 10% stayed (kind of officially) in the background.

AP calls Musharraf a "staunch ally?"

Final confirmation that AP hates America. Almost as much as Pervez did.

What a loser. All HE cared about was using jihadis to fight India. So of course he'd let them breed in the so-call "tribal areas."

No central government can survive with outlaw provinces. The new regime will sweep them clean or succumb.

Asif Ali Zardari? Good luck to ya.

"Think it'll work?"
"It'll take a miracle."

Trying to squeeze a little "The Princess Bride" is never really that hard.

Dear Mr. Pakistani President,

Please allow the US troops that are in Afghanastan working the border looking for Taliban/ Al Qaida/ Scumbags to cross the border at will and unfettered.

Thank You

Me

re: #31 Robert Arvanitis

The new regime will sweep them clean or succumb.

The Northwest Frontier (including the Tribal Areas) is ... well ... uh ... ur ... sh*t city where the efforts of ANY central government are concerned. That area is essentially ungovernable by any outside power.

re: #7 Killian Bundy

/well, at least we should be able to bribe him

10% was as hubby to the PM. Below his present pay grade. Who ever has the key to the Pak treasury better hide it.

re: #33 sattv4u2

Dear Mr. Pakistani President ISI,

Please allow the US troops that are in Afghanastan working the border looking for Taliban/ Al Qaida/ Scumbags to cross the border at will and unfettered.

Thank You

Me

/IMHO

re: #33 sattv4u2

Dear Mr. Pakistani President,

Please allow the US troops that are in Afghanastan working the border looking for Taliban/ Al Qaida/ Scumbags to cross the border at will and unfettered.

Thank You

Me

Unlike Barack, at least you have the decency t ask...

/kidding -- I say take 'em out with or without permission

re: #35 Bobibutu

10% was as hubby to the PM. Below his present pay grade. Who ever has the key to the Pak treasury better hide it.

Amen.

re: #36 pre-Boomer Marine brat

/IMHO

pass a brother a clue ,,, "ISI" ?

re: #16 MandyManners

Lotsa' GMTA this afternoon.

This ain't rocket science.

/

Aloha Snackbar!

re: #39 sattv4u2

pass a brother a clue ,,, "ISI" ?

The Inter-Services Intelligence Agency

/as Spock said to McCoy ... "Remember"

I hear he killed him a bear, when he was only three.

it's hard to be positive abt. the future of pakistan,
so many poor, backward uneducated people. and corruption at the top.
interesting how britain put india on a forward path and islam has ground pakistan into the dirt.

re: #37 christheprofessor

Unlike Barack, at least you have the decency t ask...

/kidding -- I say take 'em out with or without permission

When I first read your post, I thought it said Uncle Barack. lol

re: #42 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The Inter-Services Intelligence Agency

/as Spock said to McCoy ... "Remember"

ahhhh ,,, DUHHH ,, tanks !

re: #30 pre-Boomer Marine brat

They do a bit, but corruption is almost expected in Pakistan. The exception to the past corrupt leaders was actually Musharraf.

re: #44 nyc redneck

it's hard to be positive abt. the future of pakistan,
so many poor, backward uneducated people. and corruption at the top.
interesting how britain put india on a forward path and islam has ground pakistan into the dirt.

OH ,, Pakistan ,,, I thought you were talking about KosLand !

re: #36 pre-Boomer Marine brat

/IMHO

He "Yousuf Raza Gilani) called on the allied forces to desist from undertaking attacks on Pakistan’s territory as it led to sympathy for militants.

-dawn

re: #39 sattv4u2

pass a brother a clue ,,, "ISI" ?

Inter-Services Intelligence. Pakistan's gift to the world.

is this good or bad?

re: #46 sattv4u2

ahhhh ,,, DUHHH ,, tanks !

The ISI is almost like a government-within-a-government, in the sense that it runs its own show, and the rest of Pakistan be damned.

/perhaps an overstatement

re: #45 Lively

When I first read your post, I thought it said Uncle Barack. lol

That's awright -- when I first typed it, I thought I'd typed "to"!

/On Charles' "Google Will...." thread yesterday or the day before, my mind interpreted it initially as "George Will"....

re: #35 Bobibutu

10% was as hubby to the PM. Below his present pay grade. Who ever has the key to the Pak treasury better hide it.

/what's really funny is that he won't reinstate the Chief Judge ousted by Musharraf either, out of fear that he'll resurrect corruption charges against Zardari

re: #51 rasachema

is this good or bad?

What would be good from there? Sorry feeling dyspeptic as I just inflicted PBS on myself.

re: #52 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The ISI is almost like a government-within-a-government, in the sense that it runs its own show, and the rest of Pakistan be damned.

/perhaps an overstatement

All that congressional oversight, legal restrictions, etc... just in the way of doing the job!
////////

re: #49 akak

He "Yousuf Raza Gilani) called on the allied forces to desist from undertaking attacks on Pakistan’s territory as it led to sympathy for militants.

-dawn

What's this?
From Dawn?
/I'm opening Dawn.com now.

re: #44 nyc redneck

Actually the great urban masses of Pakistan in the Punjab and the Sindh are pretty much better educated than most of the subcontinent. Most of them speak two to four languages (Urdu, English, Farsi, Daru etc.)

In the frontiers and among the very poor you have a different story with Saudi Wahabbist education being the indoctrination mill of last resort.

Having lost his wife to assassination courtesy of the radical Islamists, Zardari should at least have a realistic view of what their victory would mean to Pakistan. Best guess- a renewed war with India in the name of "Islamic brotherhood", probably culminating in a nuclear exchange. Not to mention AQ and/or the Taliban getting a 10-15KT "orange" in their Christmas stocking, with the tag saying, "From The New Rulers of Pakistan- Please Deliver To The Great Satan on Our Behalf."

It is very unlikely that Pakistan would survive either possibility. Zardari most likely understands this- and also understands that he is facing an enemy with whom compromise or accommodation equals baring your throat for the knife.

If he's smart, his first step will be a general house-cleaning in the military and the civil government to get the Islamist sympathizers and hangers-on out. (Look for the MSM to portray this as the equivalent of McCarthyism, with some Tammany Hall thrown in.)

After that, he has to fight- and win- the war that his predecessor (Musharraf) tried to deny even existed. To attempt to placate those very elements most desirous of overthrowing him. I always considered him at best a weak reed, and at worst someone trying to keep a foot in each camp. As Len Deighton's Man from Burnley once said, you do that and in the end, they build the barbed wire right through you.

This will be interesting to watch. How much we can do other than watch, however, is open to question.

cheers

eon

re: #56 jcm

All that congressional oversight, legal restrictions, etc... just in the way of doing the job!
////////

I could get banned if I make the suggestion I'd like to.
heh

re: #57 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What's this?
From Dawn?
/I'm opening Dawn.com now.

[Link: dawn.com...]

East Carolina is puttin' a whuppin' on West Virginia...

re: #59 eon

Having lost his wife to assassination courtesy of the radical Islamists

/that's subject to some dispute, don't underestimate the ISI

Right now his Taliban / AQ agitprop opposition both in country and foreign is pretty stiff, they have a cadre out there trying to convince westerners that he's mentally unstable right now.

Dawn.com

Asif’s gatecrashing into presidency

LANDI KOTAL, Sept 5: The government is reported to have decided to stop fuel supplies to Nato forces in Afghanistan via the Torkham highway with effect from Saturday. (However, you oughta read the ENTIRE article.)

re: #54 Killian Bundy

/what's really funny is that he won't reinstate the Chief Judge ousted by Musharraf either, out of fear that he'll resurrect corruption charges against Zardari

The guy defiantly has his hands full. I wish him a long and prosperous life. Prolly not good odds.

re: #65 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Some other links in spinoffs above as well. The next two days will be interesting.

re: #61 akak

[Link: dawn.com...]

Yes. Thanks.
It's been on my Favorites menu for a few years.

/you wouldn't have known. Thanks for the link.

re: #63 Killian Bundy

/that's subject to some dispute, don't underestimate the ISI

Point taken. A better analysis would be to compare Pakistan to Chicago- under Snorky and Dutch (Schultz).

/Several groups of thugs- no waiting

cheers

eon

re: #67 Thanos

Some other links in spinoffs above as well. The next two days will be interesting.

Thanks.

re: #64 Thanos

Right now his Taliban / AQ agitprop opposition both in country and foreign is pretty stiff, they have a cadre out there trying to convince westerners that he's mentally unstable right now.

Nothing like having the smooth urbane moderate spokesman for maniacs that crawled out of a cave in the 7th century explain that the other guy is unstable.

re: #68 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes. Thanks.
It's been on my Favorites menu for a few years.

/you wouldn't have known. Thanks for the link.

you suck-up !

j/k

/here's hoping someone's watching the back pass into Darkot.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she was looking forward to working with Zardari. “I’ve been impressed by some of the things he has said about the challenges that Pakistan faces, about the centrality of fighting terrorism, about the fact that the terrorism fight is Pakistan’s fight and also his very strong words of friendship and alliance with the United States,” Rice told reporters on a trip to North Africa.

Better hurry, Condi, this guy will have a limited shelf life I expect.

Makes you wonder what was said when the generals (Paki's) met with Petraeus & Mullen a couple of weeks ago aboard the big boat?

re: #63 Killian Bundy

re: #59 eon
Having lost his wife to assassination courtesy of the radical Islamists

/that's subject to some dispute, don't underestimate the ISI

sattv4u2, FYI, notice this one. There's conjecture that the ISI was behind Benazir's assassination

re: #29 lifeofthemind

So what does India want? Kashmir and Punjab?

For a start, India would like the Pakistan intelligence service to help roundup the murderers who plant bombs in Mumbai.
Like that's going to happen.

re: #71 lifeofthemind

Nothing like having the smooth urbane moderate spokesman for maniacs that crawled out of a cave in the 7th century explain that the other guy is unstable.

The truly hidden strength of AQ is in their political "sympathizer" and terror groups like Jundullah. Mostly Dr's and other professionals, these people are very sharp and keep low profile.

re: #60 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I could get banned if I make the suggestion I'd like to.
heh

LOL!

I wonder if the left really knows what they accuse GWB et. al. looks like.

re: #72 sattv4u2

you suck-up !

j/k

/utterly at a loss over how to make a HUGE sucking sound
LOL

re: #76 pre-Boomer Marine brat

sattv4u2, FYI, notice this one. There's conjecture that the ISI was behind Benazir's assassination

ISI has lost of unsavory connections.

re: #58 Thanos

Actually the great urban masses of Pakistan in the Punjab and the Sindh are pretty much better educated than most of the subcontinent. Most of them speak two to four languages (Urdu, English, Farsi, Daru etc.)

In the frontiers and among the very poor you have a different story with Saudi Wahabbist education being the indoctrination mill of last resort.

i guess that's where they get all their instant frothing rioters.

re: #81 jcm

ISI has lost of unsavory connections.

supposedly there was a crackdown, more like lots of cracks

re: #76 pre-Boomer Marine brat

sattv4u2, FYI, notice this one. There's conjecture that the ISI was behind Benazir's assassination

not to mention Sarah Palin !

re: #11 Sully33

This is going to be a mess...

Sully -

Think 5 Letter Word - INDIA! -S-

re: #81 jcm

ISI has lost of unsavory connections.

ISI is charged with protecting the mother country.

/just making the point, now back to my regularly-scheduled rant

re: #73 Thanos
With Georgia, the fleet in the Black Sea, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran, plus hurricanes, do you figure Bush and Cheney';s absence from the convention was not jusy courtesy to McCain but because of a few other things on their plates?

Very OT

I have a question.
If Obama's people are doing a lot of registering of voters:
A. How many will actually vote?
B. How many will vote Dem?
C. How many has he registered (alive ones that is)?

He is also untested on the international stage

Yes- but does he have an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?

When a person gets 162 votes out of 163 and is in control of nukes, it raises an eyebrow.

Oh yeah the one vote was invalid.

This right here is a great video. Pardon me if it has already been posted.
McCain should hire this young man.

re: #88 Typicalwhitey
If the youth vote turns out like the Conventional Wisdom says it will:
1) Barry will win in a landslide
2) It will be the first time the youth vote has turned out in any significant numbers

Ain't gonna happen. For one thing Barry has sold out to the MAN.

ISI ‘number one’ accused in Bhutto assassination

Pakistan's powerful intelligence service, the ISI, is the "number one accused" in the assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, a senior Britain-based leader of her party has said.

"ISI is number one accused for the murder of Ms Bhutto, Pakistan's great leader," Amanullah Khan, a leader of the Pakistan People's Party, said on Wednesday night.

"Her assassination is calculated. Her killing is a fascist act and ISI and CIA should shoulder responsibility for her assassination," Khan said at a condolence meeting organised by the All Party Parliamentary Group on Third-World Solidarity at the Boothroyd Room of House of Commons.

/fun and games, of the tangled webs . . .

re: #88 Typicalwhitey

Very OT

I have a question.
If Obama's people are doing a lot of registering of voters:
A. How many will actually vote?
B. How many will vote Dem?
C. How many has he registered (alive ones that is)?

I know of at least one staunch Republican who registered Democrat so that she could vote against Hillary in the primary by voting for Obama. I also know that she will vote for McCain in November. She's my mom.

I suspect that the surge in registered Democrats is not indicative of the number of vote for Obama in the general election.

re: #88 Typicalwhitey

Very OT

I have a question.
If Obama's people are doing a lot of registering of voters:
A. How many will actually vote?
B. How many will vote Dem?
C. How many has he registered (alive ones that is)?

A. 2,000,000
B. 1,990,000
C.   100,000

re: #91 rawmuse

This right here is a great video. Pardon me if it has already been posted.
McCain should hire this young man.

Direct, simple, and a monster smack down.

re: #91 rawmuse

This right here is a great video. Pardon me if it has already been posted.
McCain should hire this young man.

You are pardoned! and yes - it would be very cool if he did.

re: #17 Pent.

A fellow George R.R. Martin reader! *high five*

To be honest, I quit in the middle of the fourth book. Bad enough that the characters I most like are continually murdered/otherwise ground into the dirt on a near-constant basis - but when I find they aren't even the characters I rooted for anymore (see: Arya)? Yeah, that's the last straw.

If I ever catch whiffs of talk that Daenerys is a Mary Sue, only then will I come back to the series. Because if a Mary Sue breaks the established laws of the series, the one law of Westeros is nobody ever gets to accomplish anything worthwhile with their life - and Daenerys is the only one with a prayer of doing so.

re: #91 rawmuse

This right here is a great video. Pardon me if it has already been posted.
McCain should hire this young man.

I love this--I got the link in an email from a friend of mine, and I posted it on an earlier thread. I don't think it can be posted too often.

re: #96 jcm

Direct, simple, and a monster smack down.

perhaps some group not officially connected to the RNC or McCain should run that as an ad!

re: #93 Killian Bundy

ISI ‘number one’ accused in Bhutto assassination

/fun and games, of the tangled webs . . .

Yes indeed, but I'm not as convinced as she is. The Taliban/Islamist factions had too much to lose if Benazir won.

re: #96 jcm

Direct, simple, and a monster smack down.

i love it.

re: #4 nyc redneck

condi seems so naive.
and above her pay grade.

And that's exactly why she's having dinner with Daffy.

re: #99 goddessoftheclassroom

I love this--I got the link in an email from a friend of mine, and I posted it on an earlier thread. I don't think it can be posted too often.

I'm proud of my military experience. When I see something like this tho - that pride evolves into admiration and humility.

re: #101 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes indeed, but I'm not as convinced as she is. The Taliban/Islamist factions had too much to lose if Benazir won.

Some would say ISI (parts)= Taliban = al Qaeda no?

Asif Ali Zardari never saw a rupee he didn't like...The Zardari Tithe.

re: #101 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes indeed, but I'm not as convinced as she is. The Taliban/Islamist factions had too much to lose if Benazir won.

We didn't like Bhutto ourselves.

/it'd hardly be the first time U.S. wishes in the region were carried out by the ISI using Islamic radicals as the mechanism

re: #104 Bobibutu

I have not said this lately, but humble thanks to you and all veterans.
We are all standing on your shoulders.

re: #105 akak

Some would say ISI (parts)= Taliban = al Qaeda no?

There is, in fact, SUBSTANTIAL CONJECTURE

/he said most meaningfully

re: #106 jorline

Asif Ali Zardari never saw a rupee he didn't like...The Zardari Tithe.

ROFLMAO

re: #82 nyc redneck

i guess that's where they get all their instant frothing rioters.

Most of the frothing rioters are in the frontiers, from the docks of Karachi, or in Srinagar actually. Peshawar's poorer suburbs contribute a lot as well.

re: #107 Killian Bundy

We didn't like Bhutto ourselves.

/it'd hardly be the first time U.S. wishes in the region were carried out by the ISI using Islamic radicals as the mechanism

and Zardari has already hooked with the nasty Jamiat-i-Ulema-i-Islam

/nice workin with ya!

re: #106 jorline

Asif Ali Zardari never saw a rupee he didn't like...The Zardari Tithe.

re: #110 Bobibutu

yeah ,, but how good would he be if he ran a Dunkin Donuts in Delaware ?

re: #108 rawmuse

I have not said this lately, but humble thanks to you and all veterans.
We are all standing on your shoulders.

Dammit, THAT's why I've got a rotator cuff problem in my left shoulder!

/you are most welcome, as I stand on the shoulders of those before me

re: #107 Killian Bundy

We didn't like Bhutto ourselves.

/it'd hardly be the first time U.S. wishes in the region were carried out by the ISI using Islamic radicals as the mechanism

You wouldn't be Russian to judgment there, would you?

re: #95 lifeofthemind

A. 2,000,000
B. 1,990,000
C.   100,000

LOL

re: #115 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You wouldn't be Russian to judgment there, would you?

I can pakistand your concern.

re: #115 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You wouldn't be Russian to judgment there, would you?

Although I do think you're a Turkey at times

re: #117 sattv4u2

I can pakistand your concern.

I Sind you my condolences

re: #107 Killian Bundy

We didn't like Bhutto ourselves.

/it'd hardly be the first time U.S. wishes in the region were carried out by the ISI using Islamic radicals as the mechanism

The state dept liked BB because they thought that she could refocus the jihadis soley on Kashmir instead of Afghanistan. They have enough attention span right now to be fighting a multifront war right now (Kashmir/India, Pak frontier/Afghanistan, The interior war against Pakistan and against the Shia in Kurram.)

re: #118 sattv4u2

Although I do think you're a Turkey at times

Naw, y' gotta keep it in-country.

re: #113 sattv4u2

re: #110 Bobibutu

yeah ,, but how good would he be if he ran a Dunkin Donuts in Delaware ?

If he studied the Nguyen Cao Ky model and how he ran his liquor store ... who knows?

/

Is this going to turn into a Punjab thread?

re: #121 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Naw, y' gotta keep it in-country.

yeah ,, because there are SO many puns you can make with Rawalpindi ,, or Nawabshah ,,,,, or Qila Safed ,,,,

on the other hand ,, LaHore has promise !

re: #108 rawmuse

I have not said this lately, but humble thanks to you and all veterans.
We are all standing on your shoulders.

Thanks rm.

re: #15 stevieray

Wonderful.

He is at best a thief, at worst insane.

Then the biggest differences between him and Islam's founder are that:

a. he has not had sexual relations with a 9 year old girl whom he "married" three years earlier.
b. he had an educated wife whom he did not beat.
c. he never married his step son's wife.

He therefore cannot be as great a calamity as we fear. Let us wish him a long and prosperous life.

re: #124 sattv4u2

yeah ,, because there are SO many puns you can make with Rawalpindi ,, or Nawabshah ,,,,, or Qila Safed ,,,,

on the other hand ,, LaHore has promise !

Having difficulty with puns on names from the area?

I know the Pathan I love it!

re: #124 sattv4u2

Unilaterally Assured Destruction awaits you.

heh heh heh

Hey condi, this is gonna turn out great!

Forcing out Musharaf for the Bhutto's - pure genius!

Thanks!

re: #120 Thanos

The state dept liked BB because they thought that she could refocus the jihadis soley on Kashmir instead of Afghanistan. They have enough attention span right now to be fighting a multifront war right now (Kashmir/India, Pak frontier/Afghanistan, The interior war against Pakistan and against the Shia in Kurram.)

/probably not a whole lot of tears shed at Langley when sh bought it

re: #127 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Having difficulty with puns on names from the area?

I know the Pathan I love it!

AHHH Quetta it , will ya ?

re: #127 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Having difficulty with puns on names from the area?

I know the Pathan I love it!

I'm gonna Rohn around and see what else I find !

re: #91 rawmuse

This right here is a great video. Pardon me if it has already been posted.
McCain should hire this young man.

I love this--I got the link in an email from a friend of mine, and I posted it on an earlier thread. I don't think it can be posted too often.re: #123 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Is this going to turn into a Punjab thread?

Oh, that's very good!

re: #120 Thanos

The state dept liked BB because they thought that she could refocus the jihadis soley on Kashmir instead of Afghanistan. They have enough attention span right now to be fighting a multifront war right now (Kashmir/India, Pak frontier/Afghanistan, The interior war against Pakistan and against the Shia in Kurram.)

IMHO, "Foggy Bottom" fits (in both senses).

No one's going to refocus the Tribal Areas away from whatever happens in Afghanistan.

re: #132 sattv4u2

I'm gonna Rohn around and see what else I find !

Go ahead and run your Asif.

/staying on-thread, too!

re: #133 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, that's very good!

*blush*

OT ,, but if anyone is interested,

Cuba vs USA Soccer from Havana in about 25 minutes on ESPN Classic

I'm gonna have to leave pretty quick. Lots of stuff to do.

re: #91 rawmuse

This right here is a great video. Pardon me if it has already been posted.
McCain should hire this young man.

DING!
♥'d

...and tears!

Thanks, rawmuse! I sent link to the "Contact Us" form at the McCain website.

re: #94 goddessoftheclassroom

I know of at least one staunch Republican who registered Democrat so that she could vote against Hillary in the primary by voting for Obama. I also know that she will vote for McCain in November. She's my mom.

I suspect that the surge in registered Democrats is not indicative of the number of vote for Obama in the general election.

I agree. And suspect that a lot of those new registrants are so because of whatever "benefit" ($$) they may have received under the table.

_{/...live in Memphis where that is a routine occurrence!}

re: #130 Killian Bundy

/probably not a whole lot of tears shed at Langley when sh bought it

communist and all

re: #89 Sharmuta

Yes- but does he have an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?

Hope not; he would have to kill her.

and also his very strong words

Her faith in him is entirely based on things he's said. Can she seriously not consider that he might lie, or pretend, like, you know, all politicians?

Modern-day Liberalism has made her very stupid (and she is a liberal).

You know I think this is going to sound "mean" but I can't help but think he may have had something to do with his wife's death.

Will he extradite Abdul Qadeer Khan to the International Criminal Court?

He will have to do something to prove that he is not another Musharraf, but what will it be?

Actually, this is the best opening move he make to begin getting rid of the military/spy complex that has taken hostage of his country. And if he don´t make any such move soon the Pakistany military/spy complex will get rid of him.

He's a crooked shake-down artist, but he's a pro-Western crooked shake-down artist. It's a pity Pakistanis can't find an honest, pro-Western leader, but their current political culture may not permit it.