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Obama Suddenly Remembers: He Almost Joined the Military

Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:57:57 am PDT

He’s never mentioned it before, not even in two autobiographies, but Barack Obama has suddenly remembered that he considered joining the military.

Obama disclosed that he had once considered serving in the military.

“You know, I actually did,” Obama said. “I had to sign up for Selective Service when I graduated from high school. And I was growing up in Hawaii. And I have friends whose parents were in the military. There are a lot of Army, military bases there.

“And I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and, you know, honorable option. But keep in mind that I graduated in 1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren’t engaged in an active military conflict at that point. And so, it’s not an option that I ever decided to pursue.”

UPDATE at 9/7/08 9:12:26 am:

Just one problem with Obama’s little story.

Registration for selective service was not reinstated until 1980.

On March 25, 1975, Pres. Gerald Ford signed Proclamation 4360, Terminating Registration Procedures Under Military Selective Service Act, eliminating the registration requirement for all 18-25 year old male citizens. Then on July 2, 1980, President Jimmy Carter signed Proclamation 4771, Registration Under the Military Selective Service Act, retroactively re-establishing the Selective Service registration requirement for all 18-26 year old male citizens born on or after January 1, 1960. Only men born between March 29, 1957, and December 31, 1959, were completely exempt from Selective Service registration. The first registrations after Proclamation 4771 took place on Monday, July 21, 1980, for those men born in January, February and March 1960 at U.S. Post Offices.

(Hat tip: Jammie.)

UPDATE at 9/7/08 10:33:33 am:

Several readers have emailed to point out that when Selective Service was reinstated in 1980, it was retroactive, so that Obama would have been required to register at that time. But the fact remains that Obama said he was required to register “when he graduated,” and that’s simply not true.

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1 rasachema  9/07/08 8:59:38 am reply quote 2

didnt barry say he chose Biden for his "straight talk" and didnt Biden say he's ready to "rumble"? what r they whinning now? what happened?

2 Typicalwhitey  9/07/08 8:59:43 am reply quote 2

Oh really.......

3 pingjockey  9/07/08 9:00:14 am reply quote 5

Lying Bastard!

4 kcladderman  9/07/08 9:00:47 am reply quote 4

We weren’t engaged in an active military conflict at that point. And so, it’s not an option that I ever decided to pursue.”

That is the time men like Obama do consider joining. So I guess he is saying if the war in Vietnam had still been going on he would have enlisted even before getting drafted?

5 jamgarr  9/07/08 9:00:47 am reply quote 2

George didn't seem too convinced. Neither was I.

6 MandyManners  9/07/08 9:00:49 am reply quote 2

How many Army bases were in Hawaii at the time?

7 Killgore Trout  9/07/08 9:00:52 am reply quote 0

Major Obama!

8 Padre  9/07/08 9:00:53 am reply quote 3

Isn't Hawaii mostly Navy? Off to check how much of a presence Army has there.

In other news, Zogby has McCain/Palin up, woo hoo!

9 pingjockey  9/07/08 9:00:54 am reply quote 0

BBIAB Chores to do before kick off!

10 UberInfidel67  9/07/08 9:01:26 am reply quote 1

What a crock of shit. How convenient. Sorry ObiWannaBePrez, you still ain't getting my vote.

11 MandyManners  9/07/08 9:01:31 am reply quote 0

And, why did he say "Army, military"?

12 JammieWearingFool  9/07/08 9:01:42 am reply quote 12

Just one problem. Selective service wasn't reinstated until 1980.

Oops.

13 cliffster  9/07/08 9:01:59 am reply quote 11

He didn't specify which army.

14 cliffster  9/07/08 9:02:32 am reply quote 2

re: #12 JammieWearingFool

Just one problem. Selective service wasn't reinstated until

15 rancher  9/07/08 9:02:45 am reply quote 1

He didn't join because there was no war on?

16 jas  9/07/08 9:02:57 am reply quote 16

Most of the military people I know have prime BS detectors. He's arrogant enough to believe this would pass the smell test, isn't he?

17 2blue4u  9/07/08 9:03:03 am reply quote 4

Probably he thought about running for mayor also...

18 Albemarle  9/07/08 9:03:14 am reply quote 8

Liberals always have BETTER intentions , but no results .
Look for this sign of Republican victory . When you see Sarah's hair style all around , victory is comming .

19 BeyondBrooklyn  9/07/08 9:03:17 am reply quote 2

Thanks, Barack, for helping me start this beautiful day with a hearty round of laughter.

20 Dustyvet  9/07/08 9:03:40 am reply quote 3

re: #6 MandyManners

How many Army bases were in Hawaii at the time?

Army Posts

* Fort Shafter - Honolulu
* Schofield Barracks - west of Wahiawa
* Tripler Medical Center - Honolulu

21 Occasional Reader  9/07/08 9:03:46 am reply quote 13
The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren’t engaged in an active military conflict at that point. And so, it’s not an option that I ever decided to pursue

Ah, so Barry declined because he wouldn't see combat. I get it. You are one serious badass, Barry.

22 Ojoe  9/07/08 9:03:51 am reply quote 4

He almost wore a flag pin

23 sadhu  9/07/08 9:03:53 am reply quote 0

Colonel Mustard

24 Cicero05  9/07/08 9:04:04 am reply quote 14

In dating and politics, desperation is the ultimate turn-off.

25 rasachema  9/07/08 9:04:37 am reply quote 0

re: #24 Cicero05

LOL! so true, so true.

26 Occasional Reader  9/07/08 9:04:40 am reply quote 4

re: #12 JammieWearingFool

Just one problem. Selective service wasn't reinstated until 1980.

Oops.

Your scurrilous attacks aren't helping Michelle's children, you racist!

27 jamgarr  9/07/08 9:04:41 am reply quote 8

re: #23 sadhu

Colonel Mustard

In the collective with a gaffe.

28 Bill Amos  9/07/08 9:04:49 am reply quote 4

Which Military did he almost join the Indonesian army ?

29 Dustyvet  9/07/08 9:05:03 am reply quote 4

Air Force Bases

* Hickam Air Force Base - west of Honolulu

Army Posts

* Fort Shafter - Honolulu
* Schofield Barracks - west of Wahiawa
* Tripler Medical Center - Honolulu

Coast Guard Bases

* USCG Air Station Barbers Point - Kapolei
* USCG Sector Honolulu

Marine Bases

* Hawaii Marine Corps Base - northeast of Honolulu

Navy Bases

* Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard - west of Honolulu
* Pearl Harbor Naval Station - northwest of Honolulu

30 MandyManners  9/07/08 9:05:31 am reply quote 1

re: #20 Dustyvet

Army Posts

* Fort Shafter - Honolulu
* Schofield Barracks - west of Wahiawa
* Tripler Medical Center - Honolulu

Were there more back in 1979?

31 Ojoe  9/07/08 9:05:52 am reply quote 10

Ah, but if he has Muslim faith, he is already in an army.

32 Glaucon  9/07/08 9:05:58 am reply quote 17

Obama:

His high school mentor a communist and child molester;

his spiritual mentor a racist and America-hater;

his political mentor an unrepentant domestic terrorist;

his financial benefactor a slumlord and convicted felon.

33 laZardo  9/07/08 9:06:03 am reply quote 0

Gonna head to bed. G'night!

34 cliffster  9/07/08 9:06:14 am reply quote 3

Hmm, John McCain thought about taking a pass and coming home after he was first captured.

35 jamgarr  9/07/08 9:06:34 am reply quote -5

re: #32 Glaucon

Obama:

His high school mentor a communist and child molester;

his spiritual mentor a racist and America-hater;

his political mentor an unrepentant domestic terrorist;

his financial benefactor a slumlord and convicted felon.


And your point is?

36 Occasional Reader  9/07/08 9:06:45 am reply quote 2

re: #11 MandyManners

And, why did he say "Army, military"?

"Oh, you know... those dumb hicks with guns. That's what I meant. I really respect those guys."

37 american jewess in jerusalem  9/07/08 9:06:48 am reply quote 8

From his answer, it sounds like the interviewer asked him point blank, "Did you ever think of joining the military?" If that is the case, then how would you expect him to answer IF he did, in fact, consider it?

I suspect he NEVER considered it, but that's something we can't know for certain. If, on the other hand, he introduced this topic of conversation just so he could plant a bogus answer, then that would be . . . typical Barry.

I guess he must be feeling a little small in the shadow of McCain's heroism.

38 MandyManners  9/07/08 9:06:54 am reply quote 11

re: #15 rancher

He didn't join because there was no war on?

Why do I have a feeling he'd be a Kenyan politician now if there had been a war in which the U.S. was engaged when he turned 18?

39 rawmuse  9/07/08 9:07:42 am reply quote 15

I almost was an astronaut.

40 transient  9/07/08 9:07:43 am reply quote 3

re: #12 JammieWearingFool

Just one problem. Selective service wasn't reinstated until

41 itellu3times  9/07/08 9:07:43 am reply quote 2

Him and Hillary, couple of Navy Seals for sure.

Well look, I'll cut him a little slack on this, I mean, I "considered" joining the military a few years earlier, the last year or so we were fighting in Viet Nam. I could volunteer to go be a grunt. I could enlist and choose my assignment developing weapons in a lab, serve my 20, retire at 50 to a small lakeside cottage. But I didn't do any such things.

42 jemima  9/07/08 9:07:54 am reply quote 4

This effete wussy couldn't go on a march with a 50 lb backpack or hold a rifle up for more than 30 seconds without his arms getting tired. What a freaking liar.

Metrosexuals unite! You have nothing to lose but your man parts.

43 HoosierHoops  9/07/08 9:08:01 am reply quote 0

re: #20 Dustyvet

Army Posts

* Fort Shafter - Honolulu
* Schofield Barracks - west of Wahiawa
* Tripler Medical Center - Honolulu


Bellows AFB ..Had lunch there once in 91.. best food ever..And it's on the beach and we played out there with some friends boogieboarding..
we drove by Schofield army base but have never been on it.

44 rancher  9/07/08 9:08:09 am reply quote 0

re: #23 sadhu

Colonel Mustard

Colonel Klink.

45 mahatma coat  9/07/08 9:08:11 am reply quote 0

I smell desperation

46 rawmuse  9/07/08 9:08:14 am reply quote 5

I almost was a rock star.

47 zombie  9/07/08 9:08:24 am reply quote 12

I have a relative who does this exact thing all the time: Tries to accrue credit for something he didn't actually do by announcing he almost did it.

"I thought about throwing you a surprise party for your birthday -- but I knew you were too busy."

"I meant to return that book you loaned me; but I wanted to re-read it one more time."

Etc.

Needless to say, he's my least favorite relative. Everybody's least favorite relative. It is a loathesome personality trait. That, apparently, Obama shares.

48 MandyManners  9/07/08 9:08:26 am reply quote 3

re: #36 Occasional Reader

"Oh, you know... those dumb hicks with guns. That's what I meant. I really respect those guys."

He ain't worthy to spit-shine their boots.

49 CapeCoddah  9/07/08 9:08:30 am reply quote 1

Good Morning everyone!
All I have to say about this is Yeah, Right. Nice try, Barry. Not buying it for a single nano-second. Does he really think we are all that stupid?

50 The Other Les  9/07/08 9:08:31 am reply quote 2

re: #15 rancher

He didn't join because there was no war on?

Well if I recall correctly the Soviet Army really wasn't voluntary.

I did join the Army and I still mentally kick myself from time to time for not making a career of it.

51 realwest  9/07/08 9:08:42 am reply quote 0

re: #21 Occasional Reader
and
re: #26 Occasional Reader

Yup, Lord knows Obama in combat gear would certainly set my knees to trembling.
But as for the draft, I mean, c'mon be fair, he said he considered joining - ya know volunteering for the Army/military, whatever it was he thought of joining!

52 rawmuse  9/07/08 9:08:54 am reply quote 3

I almost invented fire.

53 Occasional Reader  9/07/08 9:08:57 am reply quote 2

I thought about being a Navy Seal and carrying out a single-handed rescue of the hostages in Iran. I even played that with my friends in the back yard. Vote for me; I have military experience.

54 daddyo  9/07/08 9:08:58 am reply quote 0

Almost, huh? Like a firm possibility of a definite maybe.

55 rwmofo  9/07/08 9:09:36 am reply quote 3

I almost became a model...

and a Hollywood action movie star...

and the greatest home run hitter in MLB history...

but decided to become a fork-lift operator.

/

56 Geepers  9/07/08 9:09:40 am reply quote 3

JammieWearingFool (#12),

Just one problem. Selective service wasn't reinstated until
57 transient  9/07/08 9:09:41 am reply quote 20

McCain: 22 years of military service, including 5 years as POW.
Obama: Thought about going into the military once.

Yeah...that's the same thing.

58 rawmuse  9/07/08 9:09:51 am reply quote 6

I almost dated Kim Basinger.

59 Sparkizzy  9/07/08 9:10:09 am reply quote 1
“You know, I actually did,” Obama said. “I had to sign up for Selective Service when I graduated from high school.

How noble, except:

What is Selective Service registration?
Registration is a way our government keeps a list of names of men from which to draw in case of a national emergency requiring rapid expansion of our Armed Forces. By registering all young men, the Selective Service ensures that a future draft will be fair and equitable...Virtually all men must register with Selective Service
60 Clubsec  9/07/08 9:10:12 am reply quote 1

Not unlike Hillary's story of how as a law school graduate she tried to join the Marines but they turned her down because of her poor eyesight. Yea, sure, like ANYONE believed that story either.

Hey ObamUH, uh, uhh, uuhh ... try another angle to connect with America. A mile high and an inch thick. What a poser.

Off to the range to snap some caps and make some holes. TTFN

61 buzzsawmonkey  9/07/08 9:10:28 am reply quote 5

I'm sure Barack Obama wanted to be assigned to Cultured Pearl Harbor.

62 zombie  9/07/08 9:10:34 am reply quote 30

McCain should come back with this reply:

"Well, I pondered spending my entire youth smoking marijuana, smorting coke and goofing around on the basketball court -- but decided in the end to devote my life to defending America."

63 doriangrey  9/07/08 9:11:02 am reply quote 0

re: #12 JammieWearingFool

Just one problem. Selective service wasn't reinstated until 1980.

Oops.

ROTFLMAO..........I graduated in 78, and had to register with SS when I enrolled in CC. No Selective Service registration equaled no Pell grant money. Funny thing was that when I graduated high school I tried to enlist in the military and because I was born with clubbed feet I couldn't pass the physical. So there I was fully and painfully aware that I was ineligible for military service yet required to register with Selective Service....

64 zombie  9/07/08 9:11:02 am reply quote 0

smorting = snorting

65 daddyo  9/07/08 9:11:08 am reply quote 0

I almost made the U.S. Olympic track & field team. Missed it by just a few feet!

My event was the high jump.

66 smokefire  9/07/08 9:11:09 am reply quote 0

[Link: www.youtube.com...]


Now here is the D.I Barry should have had.........................................

67 Occasional Reader  9/07/08 9:11:12 am reply quote 2

re: #51 realwest

Yup, Lord knows Obama in combat gear would certainly set my knees to trembling.

OBAMBO!

No man, no law, no war can stop him!

68 CapeCoddah  9/07/08 9:11:20 am reply quote 0

re: #62 zombie

LOL, Zombie, how does one SMORT coke?

69 realwest  9/07/08 9:11:35 am reply quote 0

re: #37 american jewess in jerusalem Well

I guess he must be feeling a little small in the shadow of McCain's heroism.

he is VERY small in comparision to McCain's heroism.
But he was a community orgainizer!
Hmmmmmm - not quite the same ring to it, is there?!

70 cliffster  9/07/08 9:12:14 am reply quote 1

I thought about buying stock in Dell in 1992.

71 itellu3times  9/07/08 9:12:20 am reply quote 2

Well again, he was answering a viewer question, "Did you ever consider volunteering for the military to serve your country that way?" So, what could he say? I'll grant his answer was truthful. He maybe strained it a little by making it sound like, "Well, if there was a hot war to fight, I would have been more gung-ho!" He could have left that part out, but our man 0bambi, he likes to talk.

72 barry the baptist  9/07/08 9:12:20 am reply quote 0

Well he hasn't slept a lot in the last 20-30 years so it likely slipped his mind. It's hard to remember stuff like that, you know.

73 nonic  9/07/08 9:12:24 am reply quote 4

The one thing I like about Obama is that he can make me laugh out loud.

74 MandyManners  9/07/08 9:12:25 am reply quote 4
“And I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and, you know, honorable option

Why does that sentence irritate me?

75 The Other Les  9/07/08 9:12:28 am reply quote 1

He is still The Big ZERO.

76 Shug  9/07/08 9:12:42 am reply quote 14
I had to sign up for Selective Service when I graduated from high school.

Instead he opted for selective memory

77 Dustyvet  9/07/08 9:12:54 am reply quote 0

re: #30 MandyManners

Were there more back in 1979?

I was with the Hawaii Army National Guard in 1974, those where the only three in Hawaii at that time. There is or was a training area on the Big Island whose name I can't spell which was run by the United States Army 25th Infantry Division.

78 HoosierHoops  9/07/08 9:13:15 am reply quote 3

re: #58 rawmuse

I almost dated Kim Basinger.

Dumped her

79 transient  9/07/08 9:13:16 am reply quote 2

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey

I'm sure Barack Obama wanted to be assigned to Cultured Pearl Harbor.

The world is his oyster.

80 realwest  9/07/08 9:13:24 am reply quote 5

re: #49 CapeCoddah
" Does he really think we are all that stupid?"
Yes.

81 sheepdog  9/07/08 9:13:43 am reply quote 0

My sister Is 47 years old,same age as O'bamer she graduated In 1977 , why did obama graduate 2 years later....please help! I'm confused or Is obama blurring everything he says?

82 Occasional Reader  9/07/08 9:13:48 am reply quote 7

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey

I'm sure Barack Obama wanted to be assigned to Cultured Pearl Harbor.

And Barney Frank thought about joining up, too, on the condition that he be assigned to Fort Dix.

83 daddyo  9/07/08 9:13:52 am reply quote 6

re: #68 CapeCoddah

LOL, Zombie, how does one SMORT coke?


Smurfs smort coke. And smoreplay is what they do before they smuck.

84 doriangrey  9/07/08 9:14:19 am reply quote 0

re: #46 rawmuse

I almost was a rock star.

Hey that my line.... quit stepping on my toes.... ;P

85 sadhu  9/07/08 9:14:31 am reply quote 8

re: #76 Shug

re: #76 Shug

Instead he opted for selective memory

and Self Service

86 itellu3times  9/07/08 9:14:32 am reply quote 0

re: #70 cliffster

I thought about buying stock in Dell in 1992.

Dang it, so did I, closer to 1994, I think. Bought a little baby server from them then. If I'd put an equal amount of cash into their stock, would have been berry berry good to me.

87 realwest  9/07/08 9:14:44 am reply quote 0

re: #58 rawmuse
You did not! I almost dated her once, though! LOL!

88 MandyManners  9/07/08 9:14:47 am reply quote 0

re: #65 daddyo

I almost made the U.S. Olympic track & field team. Missed it by just a few feet!

My event was the high jump.

LOL!

89 Thanos  9/07/08 9:15:02 am reply quote 1

He considered it long enough to decide that community organizer was a faster track to political power.

90 jemima  9/07/08 9:15:04 am reply quote 2

Sarah Palin has bigger balls than he has. And I mean that as a metaphorical compliment to her.

91 cliffster  9/07/08 9:15:04 am reply quote 0

re: #74 MandyManners

Why does that sentence irritate me?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/patronizing

92 Cicero05  9/07/08 9:15:09 am reply quote 1

Obama dropped the military idea when he found out the WACs had been disbanded.

93 Balian1193  9/07/08 9:15:35 am reply quote 4

Even in basketball, Sarah Palin is more experienced than Barack Obama. With a fractured ankle, Sarah Palin nailed a clutch winning free throw to win the state championship. Her team was a heavy underdog. Obama won nothing.

Sarah Palin - state championship
Obama - he brags he can beat her in a game of HORSE.

[Link: www.insideedition.com...]
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

ROFL ...Obama is a loser. He brags he can beat a woman 6 inch shorter than him in HORSE. Like everything else, Palin walks the talk and Obama balks the walk.

94 Shug  9/07/08 9:15:38 am reply quote 0

re: #92 Cicero05

and he saw that you had to do chin ups

95 Dustyvet  9/07/08 9:15:41 am reply quote 2

re: #80 realwest

" Does he really think we are all that stupid?"
Yes.

Had he joined the Army, he would have been a REMF anyway...:)


And for those that have served we all know what a REMF is...

96 Kailen  9/07/08 9:16:04 am reply quote 3

Tisk tisk, Charles. The 1980 reissue *STILL* meant that he had to sign up.

"On March 25, 1975, Pres. Gerald Ford signed Proclamation 4360, Terminating Registration Procedures Under Military Selective Service Act, eliminating the registration requirement for all 18-25 year old male citizens. Then on July 2, 1980, President Jimmy Carter signed Proclamation 4771, Registration Under the Military Selective Service Act, retroactively re-establishing the Selective Service registration requirement for all 18-26 year old male citizens born on or after January 1, 1960. Only men born between March 29, 1957, and December 31, 1959, were completely exempt from Selective Service registration.[2] The first registrations after Proclamation 4771 took place on Monday, July 21, 1980, for those men born in January, February and March 1960 at U.S. Post Offices. Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays were reserved for men born in the later quarters of the year, and registration for men born in 1961 began the following week [3]."

Obama was born August 4, 1961. In other words, he was required to sign up.

97 calcajun  9/07/08 9:16:07 am reply quote -1

Slightly OT--this is an interesting opinion article. I do not know the author's political bent, but this sounds like an excuse for failure before the fact. He suggests BHO's tepid poll performance is a function of his race and not his lightweight record.

[Link: www.philly.com...]

As I told a friend, I have not seen anything that might indicate BHO would be a bad president. It is just that I have not seen anything to suggest he knows how to be a good president.

98 MandyManners  9/07/08 9:16:27 am reply quote 0

re: #77 Dustyvet

I was with the Hawaii Army National Guard in 1974, those where the only three in Hawaii at that time. There is or was a training area on the Big Island whose name I can't spell which was run by the United States Army 25th Infantry Division.

Which branch had the most prominent presence at the time?

99 Occasional Reader  9/07/08 9:16:30 am reply quote 0

Wow. If McCain's were to decide to blow everything by having an affair with someone on his campaign, he could do worse than the babe who was just on CNN Late Edition. Nancy Pfloetensomething.

100 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  9/07/08 9:16:44 am reply quote 0

Now we know when he became an experienced CinC - geesh, I'da never have figured it out.

Kamzing

101 JammieWearingFool  9/07/08 9:17:15 am reply quote 3

re: #81 sheepdog

My sister Is 47 years old,same age as O'bamer she graduated In 1977 , why did obama graduate 2 years later....please help! I'm confused or Is obama blurring everything he says?

He's 47. Graduating in 1979 when he was 18 makes sense.

I'm 45. I graduated in 1981. And just for the record, I registered with selective service on my 18th birthday.

102 tee866  9/07/08 9:17:15 am reply quote 0

The thought of that man thinking about joining the service is about the same thought that I have about pigs being able to grow wings and fly at will.

103 realwest  9/07/08 9:17:21 am reply quote 0

re: #74 MandyManners
Morning Mandy! "Why does that sentence irritate me?"
Maybe because it's such a blatant lie?
Just a guess here!

104 Dustyvet  9/07/08 9:17:30 am reply quote 0

re: #98 MandyManners

Which branch had the most prominent presence at the time?

United States Navy Pearl Harbor.

105 itellu3times  9/07/08 9:17:56 am reply quote 0

re: #99 Occasional Reader

Wow. If McCain's were to decide to blow everything by having an affair with someone on his campaign, he could do worse than the babe who was just on CNN Late Edition. Nancy Pfloetensomething.

If you mean the woman who replaced Fiorina as economic (and general) spokesperson, yessir.

106 gringo  9/07/08 9:17:57 am reply quote 0

This is just too good. How desperate he must be to try anything, any lie to bolster his evaporating popularity. Palin is the word of the day and for the first time his campaign can actually see the possibility of failure. Oh my, but they must be besides themselves!

107 cliffster  9/07/08 9:18:07 am reply quote 4

re: #99 Occasional Reader

Wow. If McCain's were to decide to blow everything by having an affair with someone on his campaign, he could do worse than the babe who was just on CNN Late Edition. Nancy Pfloetensomething.

One nice thing about electing a 72 year old man for president - chances of antics with a 22 year old intern go way down.

108 MandyManners  9/07/08 9:18:11 am reply quote 0

re: #91 cliffster

109 TMA  9/07/08 9:18:15 am reply quote 3

(#12) Just one problem. Selective service wasn't reinstated until 1980.

(#40) If he graduated high school in '79, he would have had to register for Selective Service when it started up in '80. Not immediately upon graduating high school, but certainly when he was in college

Right, I graduated high school in June, 1980, but selective service registration was introduced either in the summer or the fall of the year, and, as I recall, during the startup phase of the program those of us who were already 18 were given a deadline in late 1980 or early 1981 to become registered.

Also, Obama's statement that "we weren't engaged in an active war at that point" is somewhat misleading -- our hostages were being held in Iran, the russians had just invaded afghanistan, taiwan was threatened, it seemed very clear that the world was falling apart around us, the US was retreating all around and we were headed to war. [and that's why I got to cast my first presidential vote for Reagan!]

110 Occasional Reader  9/07/08 9:18:21 am reply quote 10

re: #74 MandyManners

Why does that sentence irritate me?

If it's not the consonants, it must be the vowels.

You may be suffering from Irritable Vowel Syndrome.

111 JammieWearingFool  9/07/08 9:18:24 am reply quote 1

re: #96 Kailen

Yes, but he wasn't required in 1979, so he's lying.

All he needs to do is show the evidence. Which, of course, he can't since he's lying.

112 smokefire  9/07/08 9:19:12 am reply quote 0

re: #110 Occasional Reader

If it's not the consonants, it must be the vowels.

You may be suffering from Irritable Vowel Syndrome.

Sick, very very sick....................I like it though.

113 Archimedes  9/07/08 9:19:14 am reply quote 1

re: #39 rawmuse

I almost was an astronaut.

Jon Lovitz, Pathological Liars Anonymous:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

114 Occasional Reader  9/07/08 9:19:15 am reply quote 5

re: #97 calcajun

As I told a friend, I have not seen anything that might indicate BHO would be a bad president.

Uh... really?

115 MandyManners  9/07/08 9:19:23 am reply quote 1

re: #95 Dustyvet

Had he joined the Army, he would have been a REMF anyway...:)


And for those that have served we all know what a REMF is...

Nothing wrong with being a REMF. Without the REMF's, no food, no bullets, no grenades, no nothing.

116 PETN Sandwich  9/07/08 9:19:55 am reply quote 0

There are more military installations in Hawaii than anyone can imagine


Linky

117 Colonel Panik  9/07/08 9:20:04 am reply quote 0

re: #29 Dustyvet

Marine Bases

* Hawaii Marine Corps Base - northeast of Honolulu

The Marines have two installations on Oahu. Kaneohe Marine Corps Airstation on the Windward side and Camp H.M. Smith in the hills of Aiea above Pearl Harbor, which is the logistical headquarters for the Marines in the Pacific. My father was stationed there.


There used to be a Naval Air Station at Barbers Point but that may have been turned over to the Coasties. When I was a kid there were P-3 Orion ASW planes stationed there.

118 victor_yugo  9/07/08 9:20:15 am reply quote 3

Mornin' all.

I just wrote the easiest 2,000-word essay of my life.

119 cliffster  9/07/08 9:20:33 am reply quote 0

re: #116 PETN Sandwich

There are more military installations in Hawaii than anyone can imagine


120 Occam's Beard  9/07/08 9:20:33 am reply quote 8

I almost became a community organizer.

121 Occasional Reader  9/07/08 9:20:44 am reply quote 0

re: #99 Occasional Reader

If McCain's were to decide

[sigh]

122 pettyfog  9/07/08 9:20:44 am reply quote 3

Come on... are we like Kos idiots? HE had to register