But they keep trying

Here's a clue to the msm-

The American public is not as stupid as you think we are.

And they aren't fooling themselves.

MSM = bitter, fugly cheerleaders.

Does anybody with a brain watch ABC/NBC/CBS/MSNBC? Hell, sometimes I think FNC is halfway to the dark side except for a few on there.

"...fully 68% of voters believe that “most reporters try to help the candidate they want to win.”

What the hell is wrong with the other 32%?

Most of the MSM is Democratic, votes Democratic, and donates Democratic. NPR, too. What do you expect?

They hold you plebes in complete contempt. You are merely sheeple to be managed into the Socialist Utopia of the Future.

re: #1 Outrider

and trying and trying and trying.

/oy I am so tried over this.

Sounds like 68% of Americans are pretty smart. And seeing how 60% of Americans consider themselves conservative to somewhat conservative I'd say that makes alot of sense.

I was with about 50,000 people the other day watching the Palin-McCain rally at Freedom Hill ( sterling Heights, MI )

Not only are we not fooled, but we know when a person is being viciously attacked.

Sarah, We've got your back. An attack on you is an Attack on every one of us

Wonder if this is a direct result of the way we now police the police? The MSM never really had watchdogs of such quantity or quality, and they have been verifiably caught on numerous occasions just this election cycle. A free press is necessary, so are safeguards such as LGF and others I think.

re: #6 HelloDare

What the hell is wrong with the other 32%?

They didnt understand the question.............

Well, the worm may finally be beginning to turn! The MSM are learning that Evil is self defeating.

Hopeful signs abound for the future of our country!

Actually, they aren't just biased cockroaches, feeding on death and decay. They actively aid our enemies in a time of war and advance Socialism in the U.S.A.

They are the Enemy defined.

re: #12 doriangrey

They didnt understand the question.............

It was asked in English?

Mrs. Palin, it seems, was on firm political footing when she thumbed her nose at flipped off "all those reporters and commentators."

Mind games.

re: #10 Shug

I was with about 50,000 people the other day watching the Palin-McCain rally at Freedom Hill ( sterling Heights, MI )

Not only are we not fooled, but we know when a person is being viciously attacked.

Sarah, We've got your back. An attack on you is an Attack on every one of us

Fifty thousand, wow! Got pictures?

I haven't watched network or cable news TV for about six years. I haven't missed it in the least.

They will carry on this way until their death, the mainstream media pundits are fossilized in their passive-aggressive anti-americanism.

Did anybody watch "This Week" this morning and see the DISGUSTING Elitist scum david Brooks referring to Palin as trailor trash ?

[Link: www.abcnews.go.com...]

Media Not Fooling the Public

Unfortunately, the public has a lot of fools. Why else would this election cycle, be close?

Ok FWIW, my observation is that because they only hang out with each other, the media people and hollywood elites have no CLUE what regular people think. They just assume anyone who disagrees is stupid or evil, or soulless. Because they dont reallt WANT to know different, they dont. They dont think they are fooling us. They think this is the truth. THEY DONT SEE OUR WORLD AT ALL. They have closed their eyes to it.

I know this because my ex husband works in Hollywood and i was submerged in that stuff for over 15+ years. Not including school.
Part of what killed our marraige was that I was dumped for my politically incorrect views sometimes expressed at cocktail parties. OMG How embarassing! i didnt belong to the Green party!

re: #10 Shug

Kinda funny how Republicans are portrayed by the MSM as out-of-touch, clueless Richie Riches who know nothing about a hard days work or work ethic.

Then a self-made hockey mom with a blue collar background gets the VP nod and they're still flinging shit at her.

This is good news, but it still means 49% don't see that the media is trying to hurt Palin.

Now that's a scary stat.

I think the msm is as clueless as the left- they keep trying the same tactic not realizing that they've been discovered. We're on to them, but they keep going. It's as though they can't help themselves. Just as Americans don't appreciate the europeans telling us who to elect as our president, the same thing will happen with the msm. If they continue, they will find major blowback come November, and I'm sure they'll be too clueless as to figure out why McCain was elected.

re: #11 ZoomieMSgt

Wonder if this is a direct result of the way we now police the police? The MSM never really had watchdogs of such quantity or quality, and they have been verifiably caught on numerous occasions just this election cycle. A free press is necessary, so are safeguards such as LGF and others I think.

I think quite honestly were the MSM not so blatantly corrupt and biased places like LGF might not even exist at all.

It's really amusing though, the number of articles by "journalists" whining about how those mean Republicans have been "attacking" the media as though the media haven't been attacking Republicans for decades. Of course up til the last few years there were no reliable ways to get the message out without passing it through the same media filters.

re: #13 jamsler

Well, the worm may finally be beginning to turn!

I wonder what the origin is of that expression.

re: #20 Shug

Did anybody watch "This Week" this morning and see the DISGUSTING Elitist scum david Brooks referring to Palin as trailor trash ?

[Link: www.abcnews.go.com...]

Betcha' the asshat wouldn't say that to Todd Palin, or for that matter Sarah...and live.

re: #15 ZoomieMSgt

It was asked in English?

Exactly...

re: #22 Karagush

Ok FWIW, my observation is that because they only hang out with each other, the media people and hollywood elites have no CLUE what regular people think. They just assume anyone who disagrees is stupid or evil, or soulless. Because they dont reallt WANT to know different, they dont. They dont think they are fooling us. They think this is the truth. THEY DONT SEE OUR WORLD AT ALL. They have closed their eyes to it.

I know this because my ex husband works in Hollywood and i was submerged in that stuff for over 15+ years. Not including school.
Part of what killed our marraige was that I was dumped for my politically incorrect views sometimes expressed at cocktail parties. OMG How embarassing! i didnt belong to the Green party!

You are much, much better off without that crap my dear. Good for you!

re: #22 Karagush

Viz. Pauline Kael: "How could [Nixon] be the winner? Nobody I know voted for him!"

re: #1 Outrider

But they keep trying

/and they're winning

When you read anything the MSM puts out, half of what is important is what they DON'T say, and only a 1/4 of what they do say is relevant data, the other 1/4 is spin or opinion.

Perhaps most troubling for the press corps, though, was this finding: “55% said media bias is a bigger problem for the electoral process than large campaign donations.”
And the other 45% work for ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, or PBS.

re: #32 victor_yugo

Viz. Pauline Kael: "How could [Nixon] be the winner? Nobody I know voted for him!"

EXACTLY!

Down with the Dinosaur Media...long live the new media!

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http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com

In other news, 14% are insane morons.

re: #26 doriangrey

I think quite honestly were the MSM not so blatantly corrupt and biased places like LGF might not even exist at all.

Hmmm...something like nature abhorring a vacuum? I can see your point and agree, its a tendency for things to reach equilibrium. Very nice point.

The enemedia.

Do the schools of journalism still use the term advocacy journalism? I've had a book (can't find it now) which documented its rise decades ago. Wouldn't be surprised if academics and working journalists hadn't "intelligently designed" a name-change.

re: #25 Sharmuta

Here's the thing, tho'. Assuming either one of them does realize it doesn't work, do you thing they're going to have some sort of seismic shift in worldview or simply change tactics?

re: #5 pingjockey

Does anybody with a brain watch ABC/NBC/CBS/MSNBC? Hell, sometimes I think FNC is halfway to the dark side except for a few on there.

I have to agree with you there. It becomes more and more apparent almost by the day. The other ones I don't bother to turn on. I want news, not "interpretation" and certainly not propaganda. I don't need somebody to tell me what to think, thanks.

re: #20 Shug

Did anybody watch "This Week" this morning and see the DISGUSTING Elitist scum david Brooks referring to Palin as trailor trash ?

[Link: www.abcnews.go.com...]

Well, no, I didn't - but hey, let them cayy on like that, i sy.
The more often the MSM call Sarah Palin trailer trash, the more the American people, who already identify with her, will get angry about those who thus call all Americans (except those metro-elites!) trailer trash.

Beware the anger of ordinary people who sense they are being belittled in a most undignified manner.
Mega-backfire, methinks.

re: #2 Sharmuta

Here's a clue to the msm-

The American public is not as stupid as you think we are.

Lefties tend to talk to other Lefties to the exclusion of everyone else, therefore Lefties have no clue as to what anyone else really thinks, or even the fact that we do think.

Rasmussen shows the race all tied up.

Many in the MSM truly believe that they are "unbiased, facts not withstanding, and that being "unbiased" puts them in the center.

Too many of them have "Journalism Degrees" which means that they know about how newspapers and television shows are produced, but haven't much of a clue about how the rest of the world works.

re: #5 pingjockey

Does anybody with a brain watch ABC/NBC/CBS/MSNBC? Hell, sometimes I think FNC is halfway to the dark side except for a few on there.

Yes. But I can't prove I have a brain.
I can actually tolerate Katie Couric.
Wolf Blitzer on rare occasions.

re: #20 Shug

Did anybody watch "This Week" this morning and see the DISGUSTING Elitist scum david Brooks referring to Palin as trailor trash ?

[Link: www.abcnews.go.com...]

What?!

I'm surprised. Brooks usually is relatively okay.

Do you know which clip it is on the page you linked to?

re: #38 Abu Al-Poopypants

In other news, 14% are insane morons.

That 14% is made up of government bureaucrats and elected politicians.

re: #33 Killian Bundy

/and they're winning

I'm not convinced they are. Newspapers are struggling or just going out of business. Even televised news is having a lot of problems.

The public now has other options and are making use of those options which are driving the traditional media into a non profit status. Which is a shame because there is nothing quite like reading from a piece of paper.

re: #44 yma o hyd

let them cayy on

Is that some sort of Welsh spelling?

:P

re: #40 Colonel Panik

The enemedia.

Like frenemy. Nice!

The link about the folks at the McCain/Palin rally yesterday yelling at the press to be fair was priceless. People are seeing the MSM love affair with Obama and seeing the blatant bias. I would have loved to been a fly on the wall afterward to hear how the press people felt about being called out on their bias against Gov. Palin.

re: #25 Sharmuta

I think the msm is as clueless as the left- they keep trying the same tactic not realizing that they've been discovered. We're on to them, but they keep going. It's as though they can't help themselves. Just as Americans don't appreciate the europeans telling us who to elect as our president, the same thing will happen with the msm. If they continue, they will find major blowback come November, and I'm sure they'll be too clueless as to figure out why McCain was elected.

Well, half of us are onto them. One place where they've done an excellent job is dividing the nation. It wasn't Bush. If you live in Texas, you know that Bush was quite the uniter when he was governor, despite a large percentage of democrats in the state congress. It wasn't Republicans in general. It really wasn't even Democrats, even though their message is full of hate and vitriol - but that's what politicians do. The media is what has divided the nation, and they've done it the way you've described. By trying to take ideas that nobody agrees with and cramming it down everyone's throats. A little less than half the people are stupid enough to buy it.

re: #40 Colonel Panik

The enemedia.

We here don't need an enemedia; since we're regular contributors to LGF.

re: #17 Sol Roth

re: #49 Occasional Reader

I think it's on the round table. I just happened to catch it and threw my shoe at the TV I was so furious.

of course he it too gutless to say it himself, he used the " I'm getting tons of e-mails from people who hate her, who think she is trailor trash"

spit

re: #56 Occasional Reader

We here don't need an enemedia; since we're regular contributors to LGF.

holy crap batman. that was funny.

re: #42 Fenway_Nation

Here's the thing, tho'. Assuming either one of them does realize it doesn't work, do you thing they're going to have some sort of seismic shift in worldview or simply change tactics?

The only tactic that will save the msm is to actually become objective and fair in their reporting. I don't see this ever happening. That, or they have to admit their bias, which I also don't see happening. The left will remain the left, and since the msm is left, I don't see how they change. They will just keep plugging away at what they think works for them, then when they fail, it will be our fault for being to stupid to realize we should have done what they told us to do.

Blowback's a bitch. They don't have a clue what they have done. I believe "galvanized" is the word...

The media should vet candidates. Why not Obama. How did we get such a dangerous nincompoop. The Clintons are still dupping the public. Nothing about
China controlling the Canal Zone or transfer of military technology. such as missile
guidance systems. Good for them for Watergate, but what about to Sandy Burglar and the Nation Archives break-in and the destruction of records on Al Qaeda and Clinton's reaction with all
previous attacks for eight years before 9/11 including the first Twin Towers attack in
1993. Pathetic.

re: #46 Sharmuta

Rasmussen shows the race all tied up.

I'm looking forward to the Monday am polls. I understand they are a three day average which will account for all the convention time. I think a week or so after that we may know a lot more about the direction of each campaign.

Not like it matters but, once again, Obama and Palin on a fact finding tour of Afghanistan . . .

AMBUSH!

/who do you toss the spare M4 to if your life depends on it?

re: #23 Fenway_Nation

Kinda funny how Republicans are portrayed by the MSM as out-of-touch, clueless Richie Riches who know nothing about a hard days work or work ethic.

Then a self-made hockey mom with a blue collar background gets the VP nod and they're still flinging shit at her.

This is I think the worst media character assassination that I have ever witnessed. And they have nothing. Michelle Obama is shielded but not the 17 year old Palin girl.

re: #47 Syrah

Many in the MSM truly believe that they are "unbiased, facts not withstanding, and that being "unbiased" puts them in the center.

Too many of them have "Journalism Degrees" which means that they know about how newspapers and television shows are produced, but haven't much of a clue about how the rest of the world works.

Just so!
Add to that the elitism which seems to come with having an academic degree, and you have people who think they cannot possibly be wrong - and those who don't agree with them must therefore be intellectually challenged, must be shown their wrong ways, must be 'educated' ...

re: #46 Sharmuta

Rasmussen shows the race all tied up.

Which, given Republicans' propensity to lie to pollsters, almost certainly means McCain/Palin would win tomorrow.

The only regret I will have when John McCain and Sarah (soon to be the first woman president) Pailin take the White House is that the democrats will keep up the bitter criticisms for the next 16 years. However, weighing that against the horror of an Obama administration makes it seem like small price to pay.

I think most in the media believe they are unbiased. But that's a tribute to how presumptuous their liberal attitude is; because many of their lunatic ideas they consider to be the de facto truth.

re: #56 Occasional Reader

That regularity lies in the very fiber of our being.

What's so troubling is that people see the "unfairness" but accept it except when it comes to talk radio where they think the "fairness" has to be imposed. Cognitive Dissonance?

re: #49 Occasional Reader

just saw the clip

-7 minutes in the clip.

disgusting elitist snob

Killian----that's a great scenario: who indeed would they look to for backuop?

re: #20 Shug

Did anybody watch "This Week" this morning and see the DISGUSTING Elitist scum david Brooks referring to Palin as trailor trash ?

[Link: www.abcnews.go.com...]

Just goes to show how far a person may rise to the occasion in the US.
///

OTOH, wasn't it Rudy who said last week that Obama's candidacy shows that in the US anybody really can run for President?

re: #56 Occasional Reader

We here don't need an enemedia; since we're regular contributors to LGF.

That's because we have a strong moral fiber.

re: #69 godfrey

That regularity lies in the very fiber of our being.

Who has the pun stick? Ughh...

re: #52 Occasional Reader

Is that some sort of Welsh spelling?

:P

Ahem ... no ... but it happens when a certain Miss Dog tries to lick my face while I type ...

re: #66 victor_yugo

Which, given Republicans' propensity to lie to pollsters, almost certainly means McCain/Palin would win tomorrow.

How far behind was Bush the day before the 2004 elections? One day before he won the election 51% to 47%, by over 5 million votes?

re: #63 Killian Bundy

/who do you toss the spare M4 to if your life depends on it?

Obama, duh, because he once thought about joining the "military Army".

/

The final paragraph:

Perhaps most troubling for the press corps, though, was this finding: “55% said media bias is a bigger problem for the electoral process than large campaign donations.”

It's not directly media bias, but I gotta couple of pet peeves I want to get off my chest.

I have no problem with large donations to either candidate as long as such donations are in the public record. George Soros can even give a billion to "Media Matters." I don't care as long as I know the source of their funds.

I do have a problem with presidents cashing in after their term with "library funds" because I don't know how those deals were struck. Was there a quid pro quo based on favors while in office?

I also have a problem with unreported large donations that get filtered through scams, like chinese dishwashers.

Thanks for listening

re: #62 The Shadow Do

I'm looking forward to the Monday am polls. I understand they are a three day average which will account for all the convention time. I think a week or so after that we may know a lot more about the direction of each campaign.

Indeed- and the debates will have a big impact. Other than that- McCain needs to keep hitting 'em with tough ads, and November we have to get out the vote. That's the end game- who gets their vote out better. McCain/Palin need our time as much as our money at this point.

re: #75 ZoomieMSgt

You know that only encourages me.

“55% said media bias is a bigger problem for the electoral process than large campaign donations.”

Heh. Accurate information is essential to a functioning democracy. Throughout history the press has been compromised by authoritarian governments. The MSM is failing all on its own here in the US. It's fascinating to watch.

re: #69 godfrey

That regularity lies in the very fiber of our being.

It's a bran new day for the media!

If I were to have one small hope it would be that the old guard msm finally is dealt its death blow by the public because of their bias.

Long live the new media.

Most people try to be decent. We lapse & then try again.
This feeding fenzy against Sarah Palin, I hope that most people are offended by.
On one of the news programs this morning, they were musing why Sarah Palin created an even bigger bounce with men than women.
I get it, they are guys with daughters & this young woman touches something.

re: #81 godfrey

Opps....can I take it back now? lol

re: #79 DeafDog

The final paragraph:

Perhaps most troubling for the press corps, though, was this finding: “55% said media bias is a bigger problem for the electoral process than large campaign donations.”

I was surprised to read that; it actually shows a greater intelligence than I would have assigned to that percentage of the public. And yes, Sharmuta, you did tell me so. :)

The fundamental belief in fair play by most ordinary everyday Americans is turning into a furious anger toward the main stream media. I have no doubt there will and should be payback for such arrogance.

re: #48 jwb7605

Yes. But I can't prove I have a brain.
I can actually tolerate Katie Couric.
Wolf Blitzer on rare occasions.

How many shots does it take? 2, 4, 6, 40oz's?

re: #28 Occasional Reader

THE WORM TURNS - "Someone previously downtrodden gets his revenge; an unfavorable situation is reversed. The saying represents an evolution of the old proverb, 'Tread on a worm and it will turn.' The meaning was that even the most humble creature tries to counteract rough treatment. Shakespeare picked up the thought in Henry VI, Part 3, where Lord Clifford urges the king against 'lenity and harmful pity, saying:
To whom do lions cast their gentle looks?
Not to the beast that would usurp their den.
The smallest worm will turn being trodden on,
And doves will peck in safeguard of their brood.'"
"The Dictionary of Cliches" by James Rogers (Ballantine Books, New York, 1985).

And — no surprise — 49% of those surveyed believe reporters are backing Barack Obama, while just 14% think the media is in the tank for Sen. McCain.

That would be Democrat Party activists, ACORN, the Kos Kidz, the DUmbies and the Paint Huffers...

re: #65 yma o hyd

Just so!
Add to that the elitism which seems to come with having an academic degree, and you have people who think they cannot possibly be wrong - and those who don't agree with them must therefore be intellectually challenged, must be shown their wrong ways, must be 'educated' ...

There is also the motivation that these people have for getting into "Journalism."

I don't have a link but I think that many study's have been done on on this. When asked, many journalist have answered that they went into to journalism to change the world, or some such variation on that theme.

For them, Journalism is a form of Evangelism.

re: #89 BlueCanuck

How many shots does it take? 2, 4, 6, 40oz's?

why did you include commas?

re: #80 Sharmuta

Indeed- and the debates will have a big impact. Other than that- McCain needs to keep hitting 'em with tough ads, and November we have to get out the vote. That's the end game- who gets their vote out better. McCain/Palin need our time as much as our money at this point.

I also noticed a lot of the state poll averages on Real Clear Politics are from July and August. It will be interesting to see the Electoral Map once the numbers are updated there to reflect both conventions and Palin.

re: #78 Occasional Reader

Obama, duh, because he once thought about joining the "military Army".

/

He intends to command a huge group of mandatory volunteers in his civilian Brown Shirts.

re: #75 ZoomieMSgt

Who has the pun stick? Ughh...

Suck it up, Zoomie.
*grin*
heh

/wondering if I should get in on the fun too

re: #85 opnion

Most people try to be decent. We lapse & then try again.
This feeding fenzy against Sarah Palin, I hope that most people are offended by.
On one of the news programs this morning, they were musing why Sarah Palin created an even bigger bounce with men than women.
I get it, they are guys with daughters & this young woman touches something.

Just speakin' for myself, but it's because she's an individualist. That means she is also a true Conservative; something we haven't seen since Reagan.

re: #83 Occasional Reader

Well, obviously the MSM channels aren't the ties that, um, bind us.

Someone else sees the folly of the media bashing Palin:

When Barack's berserkers lost the plot

During the 1997 British general election, the late Lord Jenkins said that Tony Blair was like a man walking down a shiny corridor carrying a precious vase. He was the favourite and held his fate in his hands. If he could just reach the end of the hall without a slip, a Labour victory was assured. The same could have been said of the American Democrats last week. But instead of protecting their precious advantage, they succumbed to a spasm of hatred and threw the vase, the crockery, the cutlery and the kitchen sink at an obscure politician from Alaska.

BBL

re: #4 Fenway_Nation

MSM = bitter, fugly cheerleaders.

Imagine that.

re: #80 Sharmuta

Indeed- and the debates will have a big impact. Other than that- McCain needs to keep hitting 'em with tough ads, and November we have to get out the vote. That's the end game- who gets their vote out better. McCain/Palin need our time as much as our money at this point.

Particularly those in swing states. I can probably wander in and punch my chad where I live without worry. But those living where it counts the most - please work it!

/Do it for the rest of us Gipper Lizards without your clout.

numbers are still a little low maybe - maybe not if you factor out all those that are between Kooky Kos types and far far left enough to think there's a right wing bias to the media.

re: #59 Sharmuta

The only tactic that will save the msm is to actually become objective and fair in their reporting. I don't see this ever happening. That, or they have to admit their bias, which I also don't see happening. The left will remain the left, and since the msm is left, I don't see how they change. They will just keep plugging away at what they think works for them, then when they fail, it will be our fault for being to stupid to realize we should have done what they told us to do.

Once upon a time the MSM elites did the thinking for most average American's. Since the invention of the internet and it's incomparable capacity to share information Americans have become increasingly more aware of just how profoundly the MSM has been manipulating them.

There is no question, a day of reckoning is coming for the MSM. For their part the MSM elites are frantically attempting to tighten their grip on the minds of the American people, the more they tighten their grip the faster they loose that which they are so desperately seeking to preserve, the worse they make the inevitable backlash upon themselves.

Obama Agrees to Three Debates, No Town-Halls

"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will

re: #94 politicalinsomniac

I also noticed a lot of the state poll averages on Real Clear Politics are from July and August. It will be interesting to see the Electoral Map once the numbers are updated there to reflect both conventions and Palin.

I believe CanadianGuy had a post on his blog about a couple battlefield states shifting in favor of McCain/Palin. Let me see if I can find it.

re: #97 Sol Roth

Reagan at the 1980 Republican Convention

He understood, too.

re: #98 godfrey

Well, obviously the MSM channels aren't the ties that, um, bind us.

The roughage with which they've treated Palin... it's terrible!

re: #83 Occasional Reader

It's a bran new day for the media!

Staying on-thread (at least in a British sense) the media should be Fleet of foot.

re: #97 Sol Roth

Just speakin' for myself, but it's because she's an individualist. That means she is also a true Conservative; something we haven't seen since Reagan.

I don't want to deify her like Obama, but I am really impressed.
I think that it is her very humanness that is so appealing.

re: #99 solomonpanting

Someone else sees the folly of the media bashing Palin:

When Barack's berserkers lost the plot

BBL

The Grauniad, no less.

I suspect the loony-left Democrat base is too busy screaming their lungs out in rage to hear any words of caution...

Shocked...

wait, no, I was thinking of something else.

re: #108 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Staying on-thread (at least in a British sense) the media should be Fleet of foot.

Et tu Brute? Ah well...it all comes out in the end.

re: #96 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I would help out but I am all in today with creative thought. Maybe next time buzzsawmonkey gets going.

/groaners I like them some times, especially when the whole movement is going.

re: #71 Shug

just saw the clip

-7 minutes in the clip.

disgusting elitist snob

I watched the Round Table clip, and didn't hear the words "trailer trash"; indeed, I heard Brooks complimenting Palin on being "hardworking and smart".

re: #100 Macker

Imagine that.

Didn't Peter Boyle die?

Helen sure is fugly

re: #113 BlueCanuck

I would help out but I am all in today with creative thought. Maybe next time buzzsawmonkey gets going.

/groaners I like them some times, especially when the whole movement is going.

:

re: #80 Sharmuta

Indeed- and the debates will have a big impact. Other than that- McCain needs to keep hitting 'em with tough ads, and November we have to get out the vote. That's the end game- who gets their vote out better. McCain/Palin need our time as much as our money at this point.

And the Change man Obama is revealing that he is just an ordinary pol with his attack commercials (IMO). Change? Not so fast.

Andrea Mitchell Changes Mind, Now Thinks Palin a Good VP Pick

Pigs do fly.

Let's just see if do anything about it.

I think that since Sarah Palin became the next food source for the MSM, they may just influence more and more voters of their bias. They're so lost in their frenzy that they don't even see that their biting the hand that's feeding them.

The Power of Palin in swing states

Ohio—with 20 Electoral College votes--moved from Toss-up to Leans Republican following the second straight Rasmussen Reports telephone survey that showed McCain with a modest lead over Obama.

North Carolina—with 15 Electoral College votes—moved from Leans Republican to Likely Republican. This change was based on the latest Rasmussen Reports polling and changes in the RasmussenMarkets.com data.

Wisconsin—with 10 Electoral College votes—moved from Likely Democratic to Leans Democratic. That move was prompted by the latest Rasmussen Reports polling which shows McCain closing to within four percentage points of Obama.

Colorado—with 9 Electoral College votes--moved from Leans Democratic to Toss-Up, based primarily upon the latest Rasmussen Reports poll in which McCain holds a statistically insignificant two-point lead over Obama.

Oregon—with 7 Electoral College votes—moved from Likely Democratic to Leans Democratic. While the latest Rasmussen Reports polling shows Obama with a 10-point lead, the average of other polls and a national trends adjustment places the state in the leaner category.

South Dakota—with 3 Electoral College votes--shifted from Leans Republican to Likely Republican based upon Rasmussen Markets data and a national trends adjustment.

I think after the debates, uh... we'll see.... uh.... this trend continue.

re: #112 ZoomieMSgt

Et tu Brute? Ah well...it all comes out in the end.

Okay, I wanna hear NO more complaints outta you!
*grin*

RoP in France.....
Jewish youths attacked in Paris

Three Jewish youths on their way to the Paris branch of Bnei Akiva were attacked by a group of teens on Saturday, a short while before the end of the Sabbath. The three youths were hospitalized for a day due to the facial fractions caused by stones that were thrown at them by the attackers.
.....
In an interview with Ynet Tirey Nebet, father of Dan, one of the three who were attacked, said he had spent recent hours in a Paris police station explaining the occurrence to the authorities. He was not optimistic about bringing the felons to justice.

"Clearly they won't do anything because they can't," he said. "There are almost 10 million Arabs and blacks in France, many of them residing in Paris."

Nebet isn't ruling out aliyah for his son. "Dan is in 11th grade. Once he graduates, if his mother approves, of course he will immigrate to Israel," he said.

re: #109 opnion

I don't think Reps deify our politicians (and that is the difference). We have another Deity and it aint the gov't.

re: #120 Sharmuta

Oh, c'mon, those are just words ;)

re: #103 doriangrey

There is no question, a day of reckoning is coming for the MSM. For their part the MSM elites are frantically attempting to tighten their grip on the minds of the American people, the more they tighten their grip the faster they loose that which they are so desperately seeking to preserve, the worse they make the inevitable backlash upon themselves.

You're starting to sound like Princess Leia...

re: #114 Occasional Reader

Brooks was going on about the emails he gets from New England bobos who consider Palin "trailor trash," etc.

Looks like a bad case of constipalin, Jim.

re: #118 jorline

Andrea Mitchell Changes Mind, Now Thinks Palin a Good VP Pick

Pigs do fly.

Smell hypocrisy ... breathe it in ... the people have spoke and the bobble heads bobble.

re: #114 Occasional Reader

It's there starting at the Minus 7 minute 15 second mark.

Advise and Consent of the Senate Main Stream Media

re: #118 jorline

Andrea Mitchell Changes Mind, Now Thinks Palin a Good VP Pick

Pigs do fly.

WOW! I wonder..... I told her Friday morning in person to be nicer to Sarah. Wonder if that conversation was enough to make her realize that it's working women like me who are indeed impressed with Governor Palin.

re: #92 Syrah

There is also the motivation that these people have for getting into "Journalism."

I don't have a link but I think that many study's have been done on on this. When asked, many journalist have answered that they went into to journalism to change the world, or some such variation on that theme.

For them, Journalism is a form of Evangelism.

I can well believe that!
Being a 'journalist' means nowadays that you can bring your own personal opinion into the piece you write/broadcast.

In former times, there were no jpurnalists, there were reporters, who brought the stuff in - there were editors who put it together, and there were the really top honchos who wrote the editorials, the opinion pieces - but tehse were always, always, nothing to do with the news reports.

Nowadays, every journalist feels they have to give their opinion - they are not reporters, after all ...

Oh - and have you all noticed how Sarah Palin is described as being, amongst other things, a 'former sports reporter' - clearly indicating that she was far too lowly to have been a proper journalist ...

re: #126 godfrey

He's calling that by proxy ... someone said something about somebody who knew her ...

On this beautiful Sunday afternoon, PBS in Chicago is showing the (4 hours worth) Frontline documentary titled "Bush's War" as their fundraiser. If you pledge you can get Woodward's new book. Media in the tank for Obama? Naaahhh......

re: #127 celtic templar

You know only conservatives are capable of hypocrisy...

I also asked Andrea Mitchell about George Obama.

re: #122 Killgore Trout

French could solve all this by allowing concealed carry

re: #117 celtic templar

And the Change man Obama is revealing that he is just an ordinary pol with his attack commercials (IMO). Change? Not so fast.

Indeed. I read (and post... sometimes) over at Politico.com and, believe me, Obama's fans stopped believing in a "new kind of politics" a long, long time ago. :)

Back when I was still giving Obama an open, honest, review I quickly decided I would never vote for the guy after reading what his on-line compatriots wrote over there. Same old, same old.

Vicious lot, too.

re: #135 Sharmuta

Hm? What did she say?

re: #114 Occasional Reader

I watched the Round Table clip, and didn't hear the words "trailer trash"; indeed, I heard Brooks complimenting Palin on being "hardworking and smart".

Brooks is actually the guy who outed the media for mocking her among themselves, white trash etc.
he actually seems to be a fan.

Can anyone name a single check and balance for the MSM.. I know about turning them off not buying their papers.. but truth be told they don't care about money issues.. their big backers will bail them out. So they just keep churning out the bias garbage, and are outwaiting the people.

re: #138 godfrey

"Who?"

RoP in France (part deux).....

Fuel is added to French debate over separation of religion and state

A decision by a French court to postpone a robbery trial involving a Muslim defendant until the end of the holy month of Ramadan has set off a new fracas here about whether France's fiercely secularist institutions are bending to religious demands.
....
But several observers argued that the request to reschedule the trial had been filed by the Muslim defendant explicitly on the grounds that he would be fasting and therefore at a disadvantage during the proceedings.
....
"A detailed analysis of the case allows one to doubt the words of the prosecutor," the conservative newspaper Le Figaro wrote in an editorial. "This is secular France, one and indivisible, that is attacked in its foundations, its integrity flouted, its values disowned."

re: #20 Shug

Did anybody watch "This Week" this morning and see the DISGUSTING Elitist scum david Brooks referring to Palin as trailor trash ?

[Link: www.abcnews.go.com...]

Yeah. Brooks has a bug up about Palin.

re: #126 godfrey

Brooks was going on about the emails he gets from New England bobos who consider Palin "trailor trash," etc.

Looks like a bad case of constipalin, Jim.

Okay, was it "round table" and I missed it? Or a different clip?

In any event, Brooks reporting someone else calling her "trailer trash" isn't exactly the same thing as HIM calling her that. Brooks has been consistently scathing in sending up the "bobos".

(And folks, it's "trailer", not "trailor")

My lefty friends are just shocked when I tell them that IMO CNN leans left (I also admit to them that there is a clear right lean to Fox)...
They think just the opposite about CNN...they tell me they think CNN has been anti Obama/Hilary and has been hyping McCain since the beginning...LOL

The lefties actually believe that MSNBC is the most balanced network...LOL

Just goes to show ya...LOL

re: #137 Noam Chumpski

All you have to do is compare Obama's acceptance speech and McCain's. Barry's was full of baseless attacks, Johnny's wasn't.

re: #122 Killgore Trout

RoP in France.....
Jewish youths attacked in Paris

France will be living under Sharia Law and praying while facing the east within the next ten years.

re: #135 Sharmuta

I also asked Andrea Mitchell about George Obama.

And?

re: #136 spidly

It'll never happen. The yoots will bitch about discrimination against their right to concealed carry. If they get it, civil war will ensue.

I still think civil war in Europe is maybe 10 years out, tops.

re: #120 Sharmuta

Hey Sharm - did you catch that date on that Rasmussen Report? August 22, a full week before Sarah Palin was announced.

Wonder when they'll do the next one?

re: #140 BingoBunny

Newspapers are waning in their existence already because of the internet, is TV media far behind?

Can Sarah even shoot an M4?

/Al Jazeeera doesn't say

re: #140 BingoBunny

The threat of losing ads ?

re: #136 spidly

Not really. The kids were young (16 or 17) so they wouldn't be allowed concealed carry permits even here in the US.

re: #131 yma o hyd

Oh - and have you all noticed how Sarah Palin is described as being, amongst other things, a 'former sports reporter' - clearly indicating that she was far too lowly to have been a proper journalist ...

...like Olbermann?

re: #122 Killgore Trout

RoP in France.....
Jewish youths attacked in Paris

France is digging its own grave.

re: #151 schultzw

Newspapers are waning in their existence already because of the internet, is TV media far behind?

In my house, yes. A generation from now, definitely.

re: #141 Sharmuta

lol

I thought all those high-flying media types read the papers in several different languages over their au lait.

re: #118 jorline

Andrea Mitchell Changes Mind, Now Thinks Palin a Good VP Pick

Pigs do fly.

Yeah, Sally Quinn pulled the same crap. These are insipid media cretins

re: #137 Noam Chumpski

Indeed. I read (and post... sometimes) over at Politico.com and, believe me, Obama's fans stopped believing in a "new kind of politics" a long, long time ago. :)

Back when I was still giving Obama an open, honest, review I quickly decided I would never vote for the guy after reading what his on-line compatriots wrote over there. Same old, same old.

Vicious lot, too.

vicious and vapid and backfiring...and a new color to it; that's a kind of change I guess.

I usually get all my news from the internet. Some internet news gets skewed also. On rare occasions I watch MSM news. Most of the time their slant is obvious—an obvious slant doesn't bother me too much, I can filter it out. It is when I watching the MSM and can't figure out the lie or angle that bothers me, because I assume they are conning me but can't figure out their con-game.

I had a boss who was always trying psychological games to try to build morale and get more productivity out of his employees. It was funny because most of the employees saw through his attempt to get more work out of us for the same pay before he had finished one of his little speeches.

re: #127 celtic templar

Smell hypocrisy ... breathe it in ... the people have spoke and the bobble heads bobble.

Could be...I saw her trying to interview Rudy after Palin's speech. She truly looked like she saw a ghost...completely lost her composer.

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) prop·a·gan·da –noun
1. information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.
2. the deliberate spreading of such information, rumors, etc.
3. the particular doctrines or principles propagated by an organization or movement
or
American Heritage Dictionary - prop·a·gan·da (prŏp'ə-gān'də)
n.
1. The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.
2. Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause: wartime propaganda.

Well, that pretty well sums up the MSM.

re: #146 schultzw

All you have to do is compare Obama's acceptance speech and McCain's. Barry's was full of baseless attacks, Johnny's wasn't.

Word, Brutha.

re: #157 celtic templar

Exactly. People don't need cable TV anymore. If you have the internet, you can watch the news/ read the stories from the mainstream outlets. Add in the alternative sources, and it's apparent where we're heading in the world of mass media communication.

re: #144 Occasional Reader

(And folks, it's "trailer", not "trailor")

Your mother smells of elderberry!

re: #68 cliffster

I think most in the media believe they are unbiased. But that's a tribute to how presumptuous their liberal attitude is; because many of their lunatic ideas they consider to be the de facto truth.

And from that perspective they write their articles and we have headlines such as "Israelis shoot four Palestinians in Jerusalem" before we read the article, more than halfway through, that they were attacking a bus when they were shot. The reporters and editors are fully aware most people do not read the entire article, merely scanning the headlines. Their slant MAY be unintentional coming only from their perspective, but the occurrences are now so frequent and the level of coverage is so uneven that I think most people no longer believe this.

Many Question Palin's Qualifications

re: #128 Shug

It's there starting at the Minus 7 minute 15 second mark.

Okay, I heard it now. Don't know how I missed it on the first go-round.

I don't see the issue. He's reporting what East Coast elites write to him about her. He isn't calling her the term himself.

re: #162 jorline

Bach? Beethoven? Where did I put you?

re: #152 Killian Bundy

Can Sarah even shoot an M4?

/Al Jazeeera doesn't say

What's with the History Channel-esque voice?

re: #156 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I ran into a recent French immigrant a few weeks ago. He was a big Sarkozy fan and mentioned the out of control Muslim population as one of his main reasons for leaving France.

OT:

Does anyone have any suggestions for signs at the McCain/Palin Rally tomorrow?

I could use some lizard wit!

re: #6 HelloDare

What the hell is wrong with the other 32%?

32% of poll respondents were reporters.

re: #173 Typicalwhitey

Barracuda, not Barrycuda!

re: #165 schultzw

Exactly. People don't need cable TV anymore. If you have the internet, you can watch the news/ read the stories from the mainstream outlets. Add in the alternative sources, and it's apparent where we're heading in the world of mass media communication.

Actually it's the mashup effect. We can grab sources for so many places, a consistent message will take a huge effort / conspiracy.

re: #169 Occasional Reader

That Bobo book of his is amusing.

The "Fairness Doctrine" is about message control, not fairness.

Back in 12

re: #15 ZoomieMSgt

It was asked in English?

It was asked in English. (Removed the question mark.) Makes more sense now.

re: #169 Occasional Reader

I guess we have a different take on it.

I found his tone and the way he described the issue very offensive and condescending

re: #148 The Shadow Do

She didn't know who I was talking about. So I told her it was 0bama's brother and she said he didn't know his African family. But I told her he was living in a shack and it mattered because in his speech at the DNC he said we are our brother's keeper and his brother is living in a shack on $12 a year.

She said she hadn't had any sleep in 48 hours.

But- I was nice to her. Wished her good luck. I had also told her I thought they should be nicer to Sarah (she blamed the blogs) so- I wonder if that didn't make her re-think her position to get her to what she said today- that Sarah appeals to the middle class and women.

re: #118 jorline

Andrea Mitchell Changes Mind, Now Thinks Palin a Good VP Pick

Pigs do fly.

... or some see their pelts floating down the river without them, and are desperately trying to catch up with them again ...

re: #142 Killgore Trout

"This is secular France, one and indivisible, that is attacked in its foundations, its integrity flouted, its values disowned."

IMHO, France is less capable of dealing with the situation because of the intensely-secular Rousseau-ian blinders which it's put upon its eyes.

re: #130 Sharmuta

WOW! I wonder..... I told her Friday morning in person to be nicer to Sarah. Wonder if that conversation was enough to make her realize that it's working women like me who are indeed impressed with Governor Palin.

LOL...I think you have something there Sharm. I don't believe Obama has all of the liberal women under his spell. I think Palin shook up a hole lot of people with her courage, composer and professionalism Wednesday night.

re: #182 yma o hyd

is that a river, or sh*t creek?

re: #182 yma o hyd

... or some see their pelts floating down the river without them, and are desperately trying to catch up with them again ...

Actually, if McCain/Palin wins how will the bobble heads get any interviews?

re: #166 godfrey

Your mother smells of elderberry!

Staying regular with the current theme:

Godfrey, you've got diarrhea of the mouth, and constipation of the brain...

/something one of my gym teachers in high school liked to yell at us

re: #122 Killgore Trout

RoP in France.....
Jewish youths attacked in Paris

re: #156 pre-Boomer Marine brat

France is digging its own grave.

If it comes to that, I'd be an anti-war supporter regarding U.S. involvement.
Enough is enough.

re: #181 Sharmuta

Nicely done, Sharmuta. Nicely done.

I can just picture this election with the level of desperation exhibited in the media. We'll see if the press plunges in in the coming weeks, further threatening their own relevance, or stand along the side of the pool, shivering in their towels. Last one in is a lousy fascist neocon!

re: #147 jorline

France will be living under Sharia Law and praying while facing the east burning within the next ten years.

IHMO

re: #158 godfrey

lol

I thought all those high-flying media types read the papers in several different languages over their au lait.

She was running late to get on air. I was nice to her- I tried to get the Starbucks people to start her drink early, and to her credit, she said it wasn't a problem, so- she didn't act all elitist. She was nice back to me, too.

re: #188 jwb7605

If it comes to that, I'd be an anti-war supporter regarding U.S. involvement.
Enough is enough.

Yeah , but the French stepped up to help us in Iraq! Oh, uh, nevermind

So when the Democratic controlled Congress and the MSM get lower approval ratings than President Bush (which they are both doing right now), can we ask for all these guys to be arrested?

It seems to be the rationale for Obama bin Biden trying to arrest the Bush Administration.

I think the mainstream media needs to come to grips with the reality that they suck (and I think they need to do this soon.)

re: #170 celtic templar

Bach? Beethoven? Where did I put you?

LOL...opps

re: #181 Sharmuta

his brother is living in a shack on $12 a year.

Actually he (George O.) claimed $12 a month. (And I find even that hard to believe.)

I have a feeling that the msm aren't in favor of town hall debates.

I took the time to look at the US magazine racks at Wal*Mart last night. They were ALL full.

re: #11 ZoomieMSgt

Wonder if this is a direct result of the way we now police the police? The MSM never really had watchdogs of such quantity or quality, and they have been verifiably caught on numerous occasions just this election cycle. A free press is necessary, so are safeguards such as LGF and others I think.

I think it's certainly a major contributing factor. If the alternate media is successful in derailing the O-Train, (as I believe it will) look for a more concentrated onslaught against it. Hate speech legislation, attempts to resurrect the "Fairness Doctrine" and elements of Campaign Finance Reform all are intended to chill 1st Amendment practices.

In the near future I predict there will be more civil lawsuits against "bloggers" and others in the alternate media as anti-Amercian elements try to circumvent 1st Amendment protections and silence their foes. (CAIR comes to mind.) While "bloggers" really are the vanguards and pioneers of the new media, they're structure is quite fragile as a few well-orchestrated complaints against any one blogger's ISP will have their works quickly pulled from view. After all, it's in the best interest of the ISP to avoid their name on the v. side of a docket, or to prevent a possible advertiser exodus if the threat of a well-organized campaign against its advertisers is carried out.

Final prediction, sometime in the next decade, a Supreme Court decision that extends the concept of absence of malice to humble bloggers ensuring that a "free press" continues as it evolves from words on paper to words on a screen.

/Nostradamus mode

I couldn't resist and went over to see what the Kos Kids were up to this morning. Imagine my surprise when I saw that in fact the MSM is in the tank for McCain. But of course. This was a particularly entertaining read by the esteemed contributor, "rajapi."

"The MSM does not want Obama to wn. It has become rather clear for a few months now. they wanted clinton and we would have none of it. so, now they are trying to undermine him as much as possible and honestly, people like willie brown are NOT helping. but, this race s going to be about hating each other. I don't like it. But, it is what it is. They laughed at Obama when he talked of uniting people. The repubs want to keep the country divided and unite them only through war and 9/11 type events. I am tired and frankly very demoralized by all of this."

Those darn 9-11 type events! Karl Rove is a genius yet again!

re: #187 Occasional Reader

lol

In my gym class in junior high, there was this tough little wrestler. He was cocky as sh*t, liked to get into fights, etc. One day, he starts mouthing off to our gym teacher, an ex-Marine, from where we're all taking showers. Our teacher listens for a bit and says, "M, come back and talk to me when you have hair on your testicles."

re: #196 Occasional Reader

All I know is if Andrea Mitchell brings it up- I'm totally taking credit. ;p

Off to the park.

re: #183 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Well, if they stuck to secular principles they wouldn't be postponing their legal system for Ramadan.

re: #196 Occasional Reader

I think George O, is his own man and wouldn't think or accept help.

re: #155 Noam Chumpski

...like Olbermann?

Eggzakkerly!

re: #106 godfrey

Reagan at the 1980 Republican Convention

He understood, too.

Too bad it can't be Reagan/Palin 08 ...

re: #200 mfarmer1

I couldn't resist and went over to see what the Kos Kids were up to this morning. Imagine my surprise when I saw that in fact the MSM is in the tank for McCain. But of course. This was a particularly entertaining read by the esteemed contributor, "rajapi."

"The MSM does not want Obama to wn. It has become rather clear for a few months now. they wanted clinton and we would have none of it. so, now they are trying to undermine him as much as possible and honestly, people like willie brown are NOT helping. but, this race s going to be about hating each other. I don't like it. But, it is what it is. They laughed at Obama when he talked of uniting people. The repubs want to keep the country divided and unite them only through war and 9/11 type events. I am tired and frankly very demoralized by all of this."

Those darn 9-11 type events! Karl Rove is a genius yet again!

Whoa, that's guy's impression is either hilarious or disturbing. I'm going to have to give it some thought.

re: #191 pre-Boomer Marine brat

IHMO

LMAO

re: #149 godfrey

It'll never happen. The yoots will bitch about discrimination against their right to concealed carry. If they get it, civil war will ensue.

I still think civil war in Europe is maybe 10 years out, tops.

the "youths" are already armed as the police found out during the riots. they prove again and again they are uber-pussies always attacking kids and always in large numbers. armed french population might be more likely to step in and stop this sort of thing. a few get popped while displaying they are of the RoP, it'd stop.

It took Stanley Kurtz to dig into the Annenberg Challenge documents. Not a Chicago newspaper or the NYT or anybody else -- it took a social anthropologist blogger. I can't wait for that information to come out.

Have you seen this by Kurtz?

Inside Obama’s Acorn
By their fruits ye shall know them.

What if Barack Obama’s most important radical connection has been hiding in plain sight all along? Obama has had an intimate and long-term association with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (Acorn), the largest radical group in America. If I told you Obama had close ties with MoveOn.org or Code Pink, you’d know what I was talking about. Acorn is at least as radical as these better-known groups, arguably more so. Yet because Acorn works locally, in carefully selected urban areas, its national profile is lower. Acorn likes it that way. And so, I’d wager, does Barack Obama.

This is a story we’ve largely missed. While Obama’s Acorn connection has not gone entirely unreported, its depth, extent, and significance have been poorly understood. Typically, media background pieces note that, on behalf of Acorn, Obama and a team of Chicago attorneys won a 1995 suit forcing the state of Illinois to implement the federal “motor-voter” bill. In fact, Obama’s Acorn connection is far more extensive. In the few stories where Obama’s role as an Acorn “leadership trainer” is noted, or his seats on the boards of foundations that may have supported Acorn are discussed, there is little follow-up. Even these more extensive reports miss many aspects of Obama’s ties to Acorn.

re: #198 MandyManners

I took the time to look at the US magazine racks at Wal*Mart last night. They were ALL full.

Had a subscription for Mrs. Zoomie, mostly for bathroom reading material. She was not happy with me at first for cancelling the sub, but after she got the last issue in her hands...well...I did not have to buy a doghouse to rack in. ;)

re: #181 Sharmuta

it was 0bama's brother and she said he didn't know his African family. But I told her he was living in a shack and it mattered because in his speech at the DNC he said we are our brother's keeper and his brother is living in a shack on $12 a year.

Fifteen miles to the . . .

/Love Shack

re: #206 yma o hyd

Eggzakkerly!

I hope Obermann ends up selling hot dogs from a cart in some obscure neighborhood in NY.

Dang, flyover is not full of rubes Dems. Get a clue.

And Charles, I was just contemplating packaging vs reality and got long winded on my blog about it.

[Link: annapuna.blogspot.com...]

re: #212 ZoomieMSgt

yeah, I guess Jann and Us should just stick with the "news" that doesn't matter.

re: #149 godfrey

It'll never happen. The yoots will bitch about discrimination against their right to concealed carry. If they get it, civil war will ensue.

I still think civil war in Europe is maybe 10 years out, tops.

Civil war requires that both sides be willing to fight.

re: #205 xtraBilly

I think George O, is his own man and wouldn't think or accept help.

I have no idea, but even Malawi, the poorest country in the world, has average GDP per capita of $600/year, or $50/month. George would not be able to keep body and soul together on the equivalent of $12 per month (unless of course he's not counting non-cash benefits of some kind).

re: #10 Shug

Sarah, We've got your back. An attack on you is an Attack on every one of us

Very true.

And, about Gov Palin: this new video of Mr Obama's "slip of the tongue", is, if not an inconclusive evidence that he is a Muslim, certainly is evidence (as if any other was needed) that he has a screwed-up mind. And compare that with Gov Palin: what you see is what you get.

As anyone who was able to see those six-month-old videos of her daily life in the Governor's Mansion (shown in the Greta documentary broadcast yesterday, rerun tonight), her life is as transparent as that of any other regular middle-class American spouse, parent, and worker. That's it. No false facades.

re: #214 jorline

I hope Obermann ends up selling hot dogs from a cart in some obscure neighborhood in NY.

There are no obscure neihborhoods in NYC.
/Guess where I'm from.

re: #218 buzzsawmonkey

to the tune of "Pack Up Your Troubles

I just got finished explaining, we here don't have any "packed up trouble", we're regular contributors.

re: #219 Occasional Reader

I have no idea, but even Malawi, the poorest country in the world, has average GDP per capita of $600/year, or $50/month. George would not be able to keep body and soul together on the equivalent of $12 per month (unless of course he's not counting non-cash benefits of some kind).

Just from what I've read about him he seems a loner^2.

re: #221 xtraBilly

There are no obscure neihborhoods in NYC.
/Guess where I'm from.

Come on...there has to be at least one or two left?

Joe Klein whines about McCain's "bullying" of the media:

Poor Joe

re: #185 schultzw

is that a river, or sh*t creek?

River - floats down; sh*t creek - one's up it, without a paddle ... which is usually before the brown stuff has a violent get-together with that ventilation implement ...

:-)

re: #208 Noam Chumpski

Whoa, that's guy's impression is either hilarious or disturbing. I'm going to have to give it some thought.

It's both actually. Unfortunately, the latter is shared by many in this nation and world and isn't funny.

re: #147 jorline

France will be living under Sharia Law and praying while facing the east within the next ten years.

France has a way better nuclear arsenal than Pakistan.

re: #191 pre-Boomer Marine brat

IHMO

France will be burning FOR the next ten years.........

re: #118 jorline

Andrea Mitchell Changes Mind, Now Thinks Palin a Good VP Pick

Pigs do fly.

I don't trust Andrea. She might be seeing the handwriting on the wall and is angling for Helen Thomas chair in the White House press room when McCain wins.

re: #198 MandyManners

I took the time to look at the US magazine racks at Wal*Mart last night. They were ALL full.

Teeheehee!

re: #228 The Other Les

France has a way better nuclear arsenal than Pakistan.

Well, they're not going to bomb themselves. Are they?. France and the other EU Nations are vulnernable from chnage from within.

re: #231 yma o hyd

Teeheehee!

Maybe they should accidentally be dropped in trash

The women at the Hillary forums seem to be overwhelmingly supportive of Gov. Palin. Many of them have mentioned the usual Dem tricks on elections and have talked about becoming poll watchers to make sure the Dems don't "find" some convenient votes to put their candidate over the top if he appears to be losing. Here in Washington state we've had more than a few examples of that, most recently with Gov. Gregoire and before that in my district, when the Republican candidate (Ann Goos) lost by 1 vote miraculously "found" after many, many recounts. Anybody know right off hand how to get involved in this so we can at least stop people from voting more than once and not letting dead people vote too?

re: #230 crimsonfisted

I don't trust Andrea. She might be seeing the handwriting on the wall and is angling for Helen Thomas chair in the White House press room when McCain wins.

I think it's time for Andrea and Alan to just pack it up and Live a life of leisure.

#10 Shug
I was with about 50,000 people the other day watching the Palin-McCain rally at Freedom Hill ( sterling Heights, MI )

Not only are we not fooled, but we know when a person is being viciously attacked.

Sarah, We've got your back. An attack on you is an Attack on every one of us

Thank you, Shug
Those are very gracious and supporting words. I hope boat loads of this kind of empathy are getting back Sarah and her family. They need all their strength for the long haul.

re: #228 The Other Les

France has a way better nuclear arsenal than Pakistan.

That's scary.

re: #233 Dasher

Maybe they should accidentally be dropped in trash

but Brain, if the MSM rescues them which campaign should they go to?
NARF.

Obama has finally had his Naked Emperor moment:

Palin brilliantly skewers Obama in her speech.
Obama man's up with 2 point response:

1) "She didn't write that speech"

2) "We Won't Be Bullied"

re: #214 jorline

I hope Obermann ends up selling hot dogs from a cart in some obscure neighborhood in NYAlaska.

Let him freeze his balls behind off ...

I think of academia and the media in this way:

Right now, the radical Boomers who marched through the institutions from the 1960s onwards have reached that point just before retirement where they are at the pinnacle of their careers. And while these Boomers are boss,what they say goes.

But eventually, they will retire, and we will see how many of their underlings were just going along to get along. In fact, disasters like this for the press may end up helping underlings in the press throw their predecessors' policies under the bus once it is their turn to be in charge.

re: #240 yma o hyd

Let him freeze his balls behind off ...

It's hard to find hot dogs in Alaska. I mostly saw reindeer and sausages. reindeer-dogs are good.
NOT /

re: #140 BingoBunny

Can anyone name a single check and balance for the MSM.. I know about turning them off not buying their papers.. but truth be told they don't care about money issues.. their big backers will bail them out. So they just keep churning out the bias garbage, and are outwaiting the people.

Competition.
Where's there's dissatisfaction, there's opportunity. He who produces, advertises, and distributes a more desirable product will acquire market share.

re: #241 RememberSekhmet?

I think of academia and the media in this way:

Right now, the radical Boomers who marched through the institutions from the 1960s onwards have reached that point just before retirement where they are at the pinnacle of their careers. And while these Boomers are boss,what they say goes.

But eventually, they will retire, and we will see how many of their underlings were just going along to get along. In fact, disasters like this for the press may end up helping underlings in the press throw their predecessors' policies under the bus once it is their turn to be in charge.

A 5th Column® within the fifth column?

Here's a quick comparison of Katie Couric interviewing Michelle Obama and another interview with Cindy McCain. Notice how giddy Katie is talking with Mrs. Obama and the tone of the questions (hee hee) and compare that with how she expected Mrs. MCain to defend an "unpopular" position. No smiles from Katie when she talks with a "conservative."

Who do you think she likes?

But hey, there's no media bias.

re: #181 Sharmuta

She didn't know who I was talking about. So I told her it was 0bama's brother and she said he didn't know his African family. But I told her he was living in a shack and it mattered because in his speech at the DNC he said we are our brother's keeper and his brother is living in a shack on $12 a year.

She said she hadn't had any sleep in 48 hours.

But- I was nice to her. Wished her good luck. I had also told her I thought they should be nicer to Sarah (she blamed the blogs) so- I wonder if that didn't make her re-think her position to get her to what she said today- that Sarah appeals to the middle class and women.

Well done Sharmuta.

re: #241 RememberSekhmet?

I think of academia and the media in this way:

Right now, the radical Boomers who marched through the institutions from the 1960s onwards have reached that point just before retirement where they are at the pinnacle of their careers. And while these Boomers are boss,what they say goes.

But eventually, they will retire, and we will see how many of their underlings were just going along to get along. In fact, disasters like this for the press may end up helping underlings in the press throw their predecessors' policies under the bus once it is their turn to be in charge.

Academia has a left skew in its DNA.

re: #204 Killgore Trout

Well, if they stuck to secular principles they wouldn't be postponing their legal system for Ramadan.

LOL!

Yes, they are sucking up, aren't they.

I've been struck by the similarity between the fleur-de-lis and a tail-feather view of a white poulet. (White, of course, is HIGHLY symbolic in the image.)

re: #244 Gang of One

A 5th Column® within the fifth column?

It doesn't have to be a bunch of closet conservatives, just underlings who are more interested in working in their field than they are about politics.

re: #209 jorline

LMAO

LMAO too!
Freudian slip -- IHMO must mean "In His Majestic Opinion".

Slightly OT (or maybe not)

Left blogosphere re-aligining for attacks on Palin

Read before down-dinging on reflex.

re: #245 rwmofo
Katie has a over-riding desire to be liked by her "peers".

re: #233 Dasher

Maybe they should accidentally be dropped in trash

Oh no - let them fester in full sight!
For a whole week - excellent show of what the public really thinks!

Reposted from late last night:

Today I went to a moonbat music festival in Golden Gate Park called Power to the Peaceful. Zombie documented it last year I believe. A beautiful warm sunny day -- rare out there near the ocean -- brought out tens of thousands. Lots of lunatic left booths, lunatic speakers between sets (including Susie "Medea" Benjamin crowing about getting inside the RNC), and a quite prominent presence of troothers. And, surprisingly, very little in the way of "green" action. Much harder-edged than the Earth Day shindigs, or last year's Summer of Love anniversary. I will have pics of this Moonbatpalooza to share in a day or two.

One thing that stood out is that a couple Palin smears got the most cheers of the non-musical portions, more so than the mention of Obama's name. One of the brief speakers was a "community organizer" whose organization ostensibly helps gang members in the Mission District move away from violence, drugs, etc. But it was clear that what this organization is doing is trying to politicize the gangs for possible use as revolutionary shock troops.

The musical acts were Warren Haynes solo acoustic (Gov't Mule, Allman Bros, at times Phil Lesh and Friends and The Dead, an elder in the overall "jamband" scene), Ziggy Marley (sounds just like his dad), and the headliner/organizer, Michael Franti (moonbat peacenik extraordinaire) with an expanded version of his band Spearhead.

Where is the resident media contrarian to argue that a different conclusion should be derived from these poll results?

re: #230 crimsonfisted

I don't trust Andrea. She might be seeing the handwriting on the wall and is angling for Helen Thomas chair in the White House press room when McCain wins.

No- she didn't see the handwriting on the wall- she got an earful of Sharmuta.

re: #242 jwb7605

It's hard to find hot dogs in Alaska. I mostly saw reindeer and sausages. reindeer-dogs are good.
NOT /

Well - if he's gonna have difficulties selling hot dogs there, though cookies for him!

obama says that the muslim call to prayer is one of the "prettiest sounds on earth at sunset"

[Link: www.reddit.com...]

[Link: www.barackobama.com...]

quote:
Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as ''one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.''

re: #252 xtraBilly

Everyone in the country was her peer when she underwent a colonoscopy on live television.