New York Times Preparing 'Expose' on Palin's Baby
Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 4:39:50 pm PDT
Hang on to your hats. One of the headlines at Drudge Report:
NYT PREPARES TO FRONT EXPOSE ON PALIN’S BABY... DEVELOPING...
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Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 4:39:50 pm PDT
Hang on to your hats. One of the headlines at Drudge Report:
NYT PREPARES TO FRONT EXPOSE ON PALIN’S BABY... DEVELOPING...
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Mars Needs Neocons Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:41:06pm |
But remember, the Obama children have been declared out of bounds (rightly so).
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Sharmuta Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:41:09pm |
If the press thinks attacking little babies is going to help 0bama, they've got another thing coming. Keep working it, msm. Blowback's a bitch.
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Mars Needs Neocons Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:41:33pm |
Wow a thread all to my lonesome.
Bwahhahaha, Now I'm in control.
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Shug Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:41:59pm |
This is the expose' : Trig has more executive experience than Obama
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JammieWearingFool Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:42:28pm |
Incredibly stupid. But that's the Times for you.
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Sizzlack Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:42:38pm |
One of the creepiest headlines I think I've ever seen. The kid is barely 5 months old and the NY Times is doing an expose on him? On what...his forumla? Diapers? This sounds pathetic.
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spidly Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:43:11pm |
well, he almost does have as rich of a resume as Obama.
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Shr_Nfr Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:43:12pm |
I love the smell of desperation in the morning.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:43:26pm |
It drools and poops. What's more to expose? It's a baby!
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Kosh's Shadow Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:43:34pm |
The NY Times: All the news that's not worth wrapping an old diaper in.
When do we start getting National Enquirer headlines on the Times? Like "Palin's baby's father is an alien"
/only the headline is sarc
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rw in san diego Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:43:39pm |
What could they possibly say about a baby?
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doppelganglander Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:44:04pm |
This just in -- Trig isn't even toilet trained yet! And I hear he still drinks from a bottle.
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Kosh's Shadow Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:44:20pm |
re: #6 Shug
This is the expose' : Trig has more executive experience than Obama
But 0bama produces more shit. Because he's larger.
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TheSpartan Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:44:30pm |
The New York Slimes -- what's new? The media will just be humiliated and discredited again if they attempt to smear Palin.
This is good news.
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Elcid Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:44:30pm |
You gotta' be shitting me. Me thinks the NYT deserves the same...Let's check on some of THEIR babies.
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sngnsgt Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:44:44pm |
re: #13 Killgore Trout
It drools and poops. What's more to expose? It's a baby!
Those little giggles, what's he gigglin at?
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JammieWearingFool Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:44:59pm |
Now that Palin will be appearing with Charlie Gibson, does Andrew Sullivan get the first interview with baby Trig?
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spidly Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:45:06pm |
Trig will buckle and cry under pressure from foreign leaders
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PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:45:38pm |
Will Obama fire the New York Times now?
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buzzdroid Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:45:43pm |
good news. this will only help Palin. my god - the backlash against the MSM is gonna be immense.
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LoFlyer Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:45:53pm |
Well the NYT and others left it to bottom feeding National Enquirer to out Edwards affair, so it is unsurprising the NYT is leading the charge against Palin. The lib MSM are running scared and will probably get themselves into a worse credibility rating that is like at 25 percent.
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Elcid Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:45:57pm |
re: #21 JammieWearingFool
Now that Palin will be appearing with Charlie Gibson, does Andrew Sullivan get the first interview with baby Trig?
No, Trig is way beyond Sullivan in cognitive think/reason.
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poovey1171 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:45:58pm |
I wonder if somehow they will me able to link downs syndrome, global warming I mean "Climate Change" and George Bush/Republicans as the cause.
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doppelganglander Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:46:03pm |
Seriously, though, what it probably is is a repetition of the ugly smears from last weekend, repackaged as "analysis."
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Sharmuta Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:46:23pm |
Could any of us have imagined just a few months ago that the issue the left & msm would try to drag out to tip the race in favor of 0bama would be a 5 month old Down syndrome baby? WTF is wrong with these people?!
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JammieWearingFool Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:46:36pm |
Later they'll sit around the newsroom wondering why everyone hates them.
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Idle Drifter Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:46:47pm |
I didn't think anyone could dig their way to hell but apparently NYT wants to prove me wrong. Say hello to Leni Riefenstahl and Dr. Joseph Goebbels when you breach the gates.
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PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:47:15pm |
Trig advocates the same failed Bush policies!
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Shr_Nfr Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:47:24pm |
re: #9 Sizzlack
They will compare the shit he produces to the shit 0bama produces on the American public and be forced to conclude that the kid's shit is of higher quality.
More seriously, I expect unsubstantiated "revelations" that Palin considered an abortion. Unfortunately for 0bama, that is the wrong thing to say. It says that this lady has had the choice that has faced many, many women in their lives and then decided to have the child on the strength of her beliefs and character.
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stevieray Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:47:38pm |
re: #7 jemima
What'd the baby do wrong now?
Hypocrisy. I hear he uses that snooty name-brand Johnson's Baby Powder... not the generic.
/no more "regular American" for you!
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:47:58pm |
This might very well be the death knell for the New York Slimes.
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PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:48:11pm |
re: #34 JammieWearingFool
Later they'll sit around the newsroom wondering why everyone hates them.
They're all racists!
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TheSpartan Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:48:14pm |
New York Slimes Headline: Trig -- the Palin's Secret Animatronic Creation.
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:48:46pm |
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MandyManners Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:49:01pm |
It would be a bad thing to suggest parents who are pissed off at the NYT to send them used diapers.
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spidly Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:49:47pm |
".....asked about his thoughts on global warming, Trig belched dismissively, rolled over, and went to sleep; dodging the question completely."
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Kosh's Shadow Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:49:51pm |
re: #46 MandyManners
It would be a bad thing to suggest parents who are pissed off at the NYT to send them used diapers.
Especially since it will be some poor guy in the mailroom who opens it.
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brent Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:49:52pm |
I already saw this story in "The Star" last week - the father is really Bigfoot. No wonder the NYT is slipping, their super-credible sources have all gone to work for the UFO chasers.
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sngnsgt Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:49:53pm |
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Shug Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:50:13pm |
re: #46 MandyManners
It would be a bad thing to suggest parents who are pissed off at the NYT to send them used diapers.
C.O.D
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debutaunt Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:50:21pm |
re: #46 MandyManners
It would be a bad thing to suggest parents who are pissed off at the NYT to send them used diapers.
I really like the way your mind works.
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:50:21pm |
Any chance it means Bristol Palin's baby? Not that that's much better...
Oh, wait, it can't--it's not a baby until it's born.
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Nevergiveup Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:50:26pm |
re: #46 MandyManners
It would be a bad thing to suggest parents who are pissed off at the NYT to send them used diapers.
Only if you over spend and sent it fedex.
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Claire Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:50:30pm |
Probably an in-depth, cutting, searing analysis of her birth control methods or lack there of and what will this mean to legions of over-40 moms for generations to come?
/I can see it now.......
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JammieWearingFool Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:50:49pm |
Word has it Trig briefly considered joining the Alaska Independence Party but now is registered independent.
He also reportedly gurgled a noise that curiously sounded like Sambo, according to insiders at some Alaska diner.
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Sharmuta Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:51:08pm |
Just talked to my left leaning Auntie. She's not voting for 0bama (yeah!) although she's not committed to McCain (yet). However- she said she's not sure about Sarah Palin, but she too thinks the media has been out of line attacking her family. This is what the media just isn't grasping- regular Americans just find this tactic disgusting.
Keep pushing it msm- the more you tighten your grasp, the more readers/viewers slip through your fingers.
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Twilight Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:51:30pm |
It's a strange world we live in - bears are protected species but (republican candidates' children are fair game.
The hypocrisy and the sheer amount of venom and vileness to which liberals are capable of in their hour of despair never stops to amaze me.
They are breaching all borders of common scene and decency with their attacks on Palin. This is sad.
I hope this wil make people see them for what they are.
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debutaunt Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:51:34pm |
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amphibian Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:51:36pm |
Which one? Gov. Palin's baby with Down's syndrome or her daughter's pregnancy? Suggesting that the first must have been aborted is called taking the point of view of eugenics. Poking their noses into the second is called none of their damn business. Either way -- real classy, NYT!
By the way, I am not much of a pro-lifer (sorry), but unless you live in Red China, there are certain questions that are for a family to decide, with advice from the religious authority of its choice, if applicable.
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livefreeor die Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:51:39pm |
This makes my skin crawl. They're so desperate they see nothing wrong in doing an expose on an infant.
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Salamantis Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:51:49pm |
It was gonna be a big National Enquirer scoop before the NYT stole it:
"Saint Sarah Palin adopted John Edwards' Mistress' Downs Syndrome Baby!"
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ContraJihadi Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:52:15pm |
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Kragar (proud to be kafir) Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:52:33pm |
What a bunch of disgusting scumballs at the NYT
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Godzilla Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:53:03pm |
Karl Rove, you magnificent bastard, you're behind this, right?
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:53:33pm |
Seriously what could it be?
1. Trig is actually Bristol's child, and Sarah is covering up for her.
Nope, been debunked already.
2. Sarah Palin screwed around and the baby is not her husband's, but some other man's.
Then it wouldn't be described as an exposé about the baby, but on Sarah personally.
3. She should have done the "responsible" thing and aborted it because it was disabled.
That's not an "exposé," that's a philosophical and moral discussion.
4. Sarah's not paying enough attention to it, because she's so busy with politics.
Pathetic anti-feminist smear.
5. ....
Help me out here!
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Twilight Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:53:40pm |
re: #7 jemima
Was born to a Republican VP nominee. For some people that's a good enough justification for infanticide.
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Adina in Judea Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:53:42pm |
When the NYT out-National-Enquirers the National Enquirer, it's time to rename the paper to its only truly useful function:
The New York Birdcage Liner
Let them fill their pages with crap honestly for a change.
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reno911 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:53:43pm |
Don't tell me... anonymous sources? Thought so.
NYT meet Dan Rather. The same fate awaits.
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Sharmuta Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:53:46pm |
I heard the exposé is going to be that when the baby is hungry- he cries. They indulge this behavior by feeding him when he does it too, thus reinforcing Trig's behavior. Shocking!
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sngnsgt Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:54:09pm |
re: #57 Sharmuta
Just talked to my left leaning Auntie. She's not voting for 0bama (yeah!) although she's not committed to McCain (yet). However- she said she's not sure about Sarah Palin, but she too thinks the media has been out of line attacking her family. This is what the media just isn't grasping- regular Americans just find this tactic disgusting.
Keep pushing it msm- the more you tighten your grasp, the more readers/viewers/voters slip through your fingers.
There, fixed that for ya.
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kuffar Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:54:18pm |
The RICO case Guiliani has when he is sworn in as DoJ... Going to be big as hell. A lot of asshats are going to prison over all this.
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livefreeor die Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:54:28pm |
This is starting to feel like extortion. "Drop out or we'll keep picking on your family."
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witwwats Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:55:20pm |
At least it'll keep "Obie" out of the limelight!
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:55:20pm |
re: #74 livefreeor die
This is starting to feel like extortion. "Drop out or we'll keep picking on your family."
I think there's enough love and strength in the Palin family to see this through to the end.
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Twilight Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:55:32pm |
re: #10 spidly
well, he almost does have as rich of a resume as Obama.
Trig's resume is much better than Obama's - I mean he's such a cute baby...
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:55:47pm |
re: #56 JammieWearingFool
Word has it Trig briefly considered joining the Alaska Independence Party but now is registered independent.
He also reportedly gurgled a noise that curiously sounded like Sambo, according to insiders at some Alaska diner.
Innocent until proven guilty. Have they got it on tape?
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Nevergiveup Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:55:47pm |
re: #67 zombie
Seriously what could it be?
1. Trig is actually Bristol's child, and Sarah is covering up for her.
Nope, been debunked already.
2. Sarah Palin screwed around and the baby is not her husband's, but some other man's.
Then it wouldn't be described as an exposé about the baby, but on Sarah personally.
3. She should have done the "responsible" thing and aborted it because it was disabled.
That's not an "exposé," that's a philosophical and moral discussion.
4. Sarah's not paying enough attention to it, because she's so busy with politics.
Pathetic anti-feminist smear.
5. ....
Help me out here!
The only thing I can think of is that they seriouly considered an abortion. Not that, that is anyone's buiseness but their own, and they ended up having the baby. IF they even ever did consider an abortion.
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sagamoregal Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:55:51pm |
One guess of what their slime story might be:
1). Todd's not the father. It's Todd's ex-business partner mentioned in the "National Enquirer" as Sarah's supposed one-time lover. The NYT is suddenly a big believer in the NE's journalistic integrity. Girls, if you had Todd at home, would you stray?
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Mars Needs Neocons Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:55:58pm |
re: #74 livefreeor die
This is starting to feel like extortion. "Drop out or we'll keep picking on your family."
Everything the dems do is extortion. Look at how they threaten companies with higher taxes, punish success, threaten Seniors about SS, they are the Extortion Party.
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ErnieG Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:56:05pm |
re: #74 livefreeor die
This is starting to feel like extortion. "Drop out or we'll keep picking on your family."
"Hey, that's a nice campaign you got there. I'd sure be a shame..."
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:56:18pm |
re: #55 Claire
Probably an in-depth, cutting, searing analysis of her birth control methods or lack there of and what will this mean to legions of over-40 moms for generations to come?
/I can see it now.......
5. Sarah Palin is a "hypocrite" because she encourages abstinence education, while she and her family f*ck like bunnies?
No way, the N.Y. Times would not sink that low.
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Tigger2005 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:56:20pm |
re: #35 Idle Drifter
I didn't think anyone could dig their way to hell but apparently NYT wants to prove me wrong. Say hello to Leni Riefenstahl and Dr. Joseph Goebbels when you breach the gates.
They don't have to dig their way in, or storm the gates. They have a standing dinner invitation from Satan.
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buzzdroid Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:56:28pm |
this is on the front page of digg
apparently john mccain never talked about jobs or healthcare , according to biden.
well duh - maybe thats because the free market and NOT the government creates job. and because the american people dont want washington d.c. to run the health system.
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livefreeor die Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:56:50pm |
re: #76 goddessoftheclassroom
I think there's enough love and strength in the Palin family to see this through to the end.
I agree. The press slimes have no understanding of the power of those qualities.
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debutaunt Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:57:00pm |
re: #80 sagamoregal
One guess of what their slime story might be:
1). Todd's not the father. It's Todd's ex-business partner mentioned in the "National Enquirer" as Sarah's supposed one-time lover. The NYT is suddenly a big believer in the NE's journalistic integrity. Girls, if you had Todd at home, would you stray?
It's just so silly.
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Salamantis Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:57:07pm |
Obama Wan Barobi; You're my only hope for change!
/
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LoFlyer Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:57:22pm |
Just so that I get this straight. None of the MSM would report Obama's many shady acquaintances such Rezo, or Jeremiah Wright or Bill Ayers and still suppress those stories. But now the Times wants to put out a "hit piece" on Palin and her baby?
/they are nuts! And this is the finest newspaper in the country?
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ErnieG Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:58:34pm |
re: #90 LoFlyer
Just so that I get this straight. None of the MSM would report Obama's many shady acquaintances such Rezo, or Jeremiah Wright or Bill Ayers and still suppress those stories. But now the Times wants to put out a "hit piece" on Palin and her baby?
/they are nuts! And this is the finest newspaper in the country?
They were at one time. Not any more.
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sngnsgt Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:59:02pm |
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buzzdroid Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:59:11pm |
re: #90 LoFlyer
indeed. where the hell is the bill ayers expose?
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Salamantis Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:59:33pm |
When are we gonna see the hard-hitting investigative piece about Barak Obama repeatedly exposing his two young daughters to pulpit-purveyed hate?
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livefreeor die Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:59:37pm |
Maybe the Slimes should first check out how well this approach is working for other rags. Google "USmagazine subscription cancellations".
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Sizzlack Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:59:37pm |
re: #79 Nevergiveup
The only thing I can think of is that they seriouly considered an abortion. Not that, that is anyone's buiseness but their own, and they ended up having the baby. IF they even ever did consider an abortion.
Ah yes the old thought crime argument. Most people will realize it is irrelevant if they thought about it, in the end they did not abort the baby. I have thought plenty of things contradictory to my beliefs yet never went through with them. Now I'm guilty simply for thinking them? If that is the Times angle that is really sad.
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pingjockey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:59:38pm |
So are they gonna dis everybody that has a Downs/Autistic/Disabled child? Or are they gonna dis every teenage mother in America? These people, the NYSlimes that is, are evil.
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:59:45pm |
re: #57 Sharmuta
Just talked to my left leaning Auntie. She's not voting for 0bama (yeah!) although she's not committed to McCain (yet). However- she said she's not sure about Sarah Palin, but she too thinks the media has been out of line attacking her family. This is what the media just isn't grasping- regular Americans just find this tactic disgusting.
Keep pushing it msm- the more you tighten your grasp, the more readers/viewers slip through your fingers.
Yup. There is a lot more to America other than Chicago and LA and most of us find this kind of "politics" WAY over the line.
Frankly, I suspect we're going to see more than a few vote for McCain-Palin just on the premise that they don't like the way the other team plays.
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Nevergiveup Sun, Sep 7, 2008 4:59:56pm |
re: #93 buzzdroid
indeed. where the hell is the bill ayers expose?
It is being readied for a Nov 5th publication date.
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Intrepid Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:00:01pm |
re: #16 doppelganglander
This just in -- Trig isn't even toilet trained yet! And I hear he still drinks from a bottle.
Rather, "PALIN SON SEEN HITTING THE BOTTLE!"
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Semper Gumbi Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:00:02pm |
re: #86 buzzdroid
this is on the front page of digg
[Link: ca.youtube.com...]
apparently john mccain never talked about jobs or healthcare , according to biden.
well duh - maybe thats because the free market and NOT the government creates job. and because the american people dont want washington d.c. to run the health system.
Except John McCain did talk about jobs. I distinctly remember a discussion about job retraining - and this is verified by reading NRO where they are not in favor. And I thought he talked about jobs in relation to his energy policy?
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stevieray Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:00:04pm |
re: #67 zombie
5. ....
Help me out here!
He's faking his Down's Syndrome, with an eye toward those big, future disability checks?
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jimboster Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:00:15pm |
Drudge does have the habit of posting headlines that don't always match the story. It sounds as if some independent source is going to write some kind of story about Palin's pregnancy, and the Times is going to print it. "Expose'" might just be Drudge's goofy term. I mean, the guy thinks he's Walter Winchell.
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quickjustice Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:00:29pm |
Given that marital fidelity is not valued by many of the senor editors of the N.Y. Times, and that most of the staff is gay, it's no surprise that they'd think that Palin's baby is what their readers should focus on!
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:00:35pm |
You suppose they're doing this so Obama can come off looking like a hero when he calls for them to stop?
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grumpy_old_soldier Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:00:43pm |
The NYT is staffed by a bunch of bottom feeders. Maybe, if we are lucky, baby Trig can have a poopy diaper for them.
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:00:55pm |
re: #80 sagamoregal
One guess of what their slime story might be:
1). Todd's not the father. It's Todd's ex-business partner mentioned in the "National Enquirer" as Sarah's supposed one-time lover. The NYT is suddenly a big believer in the NE's journalistic integrity. Girls, if you had Todd at home, would you stray?
Does it really matter if she did? After all, the last Democrat that we had in office screwed an intern on the historic desk in the Oval Office.
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callahan23 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:00:58pm |
I don't know if anybody linked this quote yet:
You must understand printing lies about Republican candidates is OK. It’s called “vetting.”
Printing the truth about liberals - that’s called “swift-boating.”
It's from Howie Carr of the BostonHerald
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doppelganglander Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:01:13pm |
re: #80 sagamoregal
One guess of what their slime story might be:
1). Girls, if you had Todd at home, would you stray?
Oh, heck no! Maybe it's about Todd's business partner's divorce. That's already been debunked, too. Whatever it is, the dead tree media is always a day or two behind.
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Shug Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:01:17pm |
The leftist media is completely outmatched this time.
These bullies are used to smearing people, ruining their credibility with false reports, threats, and relentless smears.
leftist media : you've met your match.
Remember what Admiral Yamamoto said after Pearl Harbor : I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve
Governor Palin will not be bullied by attacking her children.
And there are millions of americans like Me and Mrs Shug who will go to battle for her and for her children because you might as well be attacking our family with your filth.
enough is enough.
This sleeping giant is going to flatten you
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Intrepid Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:01:28pm |
Fox is replaying the Greta show on Sarah Palin now....
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Twilight Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:01:29pm |
re: #33 Sharmuta
Could any of us have imagined just a few months ago that the issue the left & msm would try to drag out to tip the race in favor of 0bama would be a 5 month old Down syndrome baby? WTF is wrong with these people?!
Answer: Everything. If they are willing to cross the black (way beyond the red) line of decency it means that they have very little left in common with normal human beings.
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livefreeor die Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:01:44pm |
re: #106 Noam Sayin'
You suppose they're doing this so Obama can come off looking like a hero when he calls for them to stop?
Good point. They get the smears out and he looks gallant for calling for a stop to them-after they're printed for all to see, of course.
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twincitiesgirl Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:01:59pm |
Even they can't be that dumb, or can they? Haven't they noticed the trend --that people are sympathetic towards Palin because of all the media attacks? This is translating into more votes for McCain....shhhh maybe they won't catch on to this until after the election. I think their biggest problem is they just talk to each other and are totally clueless about what real people think of their slime filled journalism.
/bbl computer is very slow today
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:02:07pm |
re: #79 Nevergiveup
The only thing I can think of is that they seriouly considered an abortion. Not that, that is anyone's buiseness but their own, and they ended up having the baby. IF they even ever did consider an abortion.
First the left attacks her for NOT having an abortion, and then they attack her for thinking about HAVING an abortion?
Gee, that's certainly consistent!
I guess the NY TImes think it will infuriate evangelicals, that she considered abortion, but really, the vast majority of mothers with Down's Syndrome babies do have abortions, and are encouraged to do so by their doctors, so that could hardly be considered scandalous. Besides, Palin never declared herself to be perfect. She is human, after all. No one would hold it against her for a moment of wavering.
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schlagerman Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:02:08pm |
My daughter was born the same day as Trig Palin. I cannot imagine the anger of Sarah if this is true. Had my 4 month old daughter been used by the NYT in an attempt to score political points, there would be an editor sans testicles, and those testicles would be shoved so far up his ass that his doctor would mistake them for tonsils during his next physical. Is there no depth to which they will not sink? I'll be singing a happy tune the day I hear the NYT is bankrupt.
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:02:38pm |
re: #90 LoFlyer
Just so that I get this straight. None of the MSM would report Obama's many shady acquaintances such Rezo, or Jeremiah Wright or Bill Ayers and still suppress those stories. But now the Times wants to put out a "hit piece" on Palin and her baby?
/they are nuts! And this is the finest newspaper in the country?
Yes, you appear to have that just exactly right.
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doppelganglander Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:02:59pm |
re: #93 buzzdroid
indeed. where the hell is the bill ayers expose?
I think Stanley Kurtz is hard at work on it, since he got access to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge records.
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Osama Bin Asshat Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:03:02pm |
3 more points for McCain/Palin...thank you
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Sharmuta Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:03:11pm |
re: #112 Shug
The leftist media is completely outmatched this time.
These bullies are used to smearing people, ruining their credibility with false reports, threats, and relentless smears.leftist media : you've met your match.
Remember what Admiral Yamamoto said after Pearl Harbor : I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve
Governor Palin will not be bullied by attacking her children.
And there are millions of americans like Me and Mrs Shug who will go to battle for her and for her children because you might as well be attacking our family with your filth.
enough is enough.This sleeping giant is going to flatten you
Hear, hear!
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MandyManners Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:03:18pm |
re: #106 Noam Sayin'
You suppose they're doing this so Obama can come off looking like a hero when he calls for them to stop?
I like the way you think.
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CyanSnowHawk Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:03:29pm |
re: #9 Sizzlack
One of the creepiest headlines I think I've ever seen. The kid is barely 5 months old and the NY Times is doing an expose on him? On what...his forumla? Diapers? This sounds pathetic.
5 Months? That might be a reach for the crack research teams at the NYT.
/
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laxmatt1984 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:03:36pm |
I'm not even sure what "front expose" means.
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MandyManners Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:03:59pm |
re: #109 galloping granny
Does it really matter if she did? After all, the last Democrat that we had in office screwed an intern on the historic desk in the Oval Office.
I thought they didn't actually do the deed.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:04:02pm |
Will Drudge put up the flashing light when it's published?
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:04:09pm |
re: #119 schlagerman
My daughter was born the same day as Trig Palin. I cannot imagine the anger of Sarah if this is true. Had my 4 month old daughter been used by the NYT in an attempt to score political points, there would be an editor sans testicles, and those testicles would be shoved so far up his ass that his doctor would mistake them for tonsils during his next physical. Is there no depth to which they will not sink? I'll be singing a happy tune the day I hear the NYT is bankrupt.
I've been wondering for quite some while now why they aren't bankrupt yet.
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livefreeor die Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:04:15pm |
re: #112 Shug
The leftist media is completely outmatched this time.
These bullies are used to smearing people, ruining their credibility with false reports, threats, and relentless smears.leftist media : you've met your match.
Remember what Admiral Yamamoto said after Pearl Harbor : I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve
Governor Palin will not be bullied by attacking her children.
And there are millions of americans like Me and Mrs Shug who will go to battle for her and for her children because you might as well be attacking our family with your filth.
enough is enough.This sleeping giant is going to flatten you
Around here in the Philly suburbs, it seems to be making Republicans stop trying to fly under the radar. They're hopping mad!
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sngnsgt Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:04:20pm |
The NYT was going to run a story about abortion, but they killed it.
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141Driver Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:04:25pm |
Maybe the Slimes has uncovered evidence that D.S. could be identified before birth, so the result is obviously SARAH's fault.
In a different world, the Slimes would be the subject of a popular uprising involving pitchforks, concertina wire and BBQ pits. Unfortunately, not likely in NYC.
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SixDegrees Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:04:28pm |
Drudge doesn't exactly have a great track record when it comes to scoops. They float stuff like this on a daily basis, and it only rarely pans out.
There's no point in strategizing against the unknown. I'll believe it when I see it, and I'm strongly inclined to believe there's not going to be anything to see.
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Nevergiveup Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:04:30pm |
For the first time this weekend I heard a fare share of political talk in the Military this weekend. It was mostly about Sarah Palin and was running 95% PRO.
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pingjockey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:04:32pm |
re: #127 laxmatt1984
I think Matt dropped the word 'page'.
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:04:33pm |
re: #103 stevieray
He's faking his Down's Syndrome, with an eye toward those big, future disability checks?
Interesting theory. Not that Trig is faking it, but that Sarah is faking his disability, to get the sympathy vote?
Doubtful. I've seen the baby. It does seem to have the physical characteristics of Down's Syndrome.
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Shug Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:04:34pm |
re: #127 laxmatt1984
I'm not even sure what "front expose" means.
Think Slimy times reporter , raincoat, subway car
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snowcrash Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:04:50pm |
Somehow the attack on the baby has to reflect on poor judgment by Palin. Maybe revisit the poor pre-natal care accusations. Maybe an anonymous waitress saw her have a beer when pregnant. This is a big mistake by the NYT.
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Reno911 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:05:00pm |
OT
I will never watch Sunday Night Football again as long as Keith Olberman (sp?) is a commentator.
/unless Dallas is playing. Does that make me a hypocrite?
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:05:27pm |
re: #104 jimboster
Drudge does have the habit of posting headlines that don't always match the story. It sounds as if some independent source is going to write some kind of story about Palin's pregnancy, and the Times is going to print it. "Expose'" might just be Drudge's goofy term. I mean, the guy thinks he's Walter Winchell.
Hmmmm, interesting. Photos of Palin drinking hard liquor while pregnant?
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Semper Gumbi Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:05:29pm |
re: #119 schlagerman
Had my 4 month old daughter been used by the NYT in an attempt to score political points, there would be an editor sans testicles, and those testicles would be shoved so far up his ass that his doctor would mistake them for tonsils during his next physical.
Wow, schlagerman, tell us what you really think!
Major upding!
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livefreeor die Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:05:34pm |
re: #128 MandyManners
I thought they didn't actually do the deed.
It depends what you mean by the word "sex". Seriously, Billy Jeff gave some distorted explanation of how Lewinsky was having sexual contact but he wasn't or something like that.
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MandyManners Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:05:36pm |
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:05:54pm |
re: #128 MandyManners
I thought they didn't actually do the deed.
My understanding of the story is that he used a cigar from the Presidential humidor . . . . . . I don't see how that makes a bit of difference. The idea that this is somehow more "correct" is ludicrous.
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Intrepid Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:05:58pm |
re: #41 galloping granny
This might very well be the death knell for the New York Slimes.
From your lips to G-d's ear!
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SummerSong Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:06:04pm |
re: #67 zombie
One of my moonbat neighbors told me she was volunteering at the local dem headquarters and went on the ask me if I'd heard that baby Trig was actually birthed by one of the Palin daughters. I told her that, yes I'd heard that rumor, but that it had already been debunked. What with Bristol being 5 months pregnant, etc. She then told me, No, not that daughter, the younger one.....
Sigh...These people are the lowest.
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Nevergiveup Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:06:08pm |
re: #140 Reno911
OT
I will never watch Sunday Night Football again as long as Keith Olberman (sp?) is a commentator.
/unless Dallas is playing. Does that make me a hypocrite?
Well you can skip the pre-game show like i do.
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jemima Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:06:10pm |
IF
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!
--Rudyard Kipling
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A Kiwi Infidel Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:06:14pm |
Meanwhile, as we wait for NYT to step into Trig's dirty diaper, here's bollocks to you
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:06:16pm |
So this is what the Grey Lady has come to? Following in the footsteps of the Enquirer? Where were you on John Edwards? And yes, please keep giving fodder to Hannity as he begs the MSM to investigate Ayers, et al. While your discredited rag is chasing down some yahoo who has a grudge against Palin, the man running on the Dem side of this ticket has no qualms drinking latte with terrorists. How about looking into the 700 page document release about the Woods Foundation? How desperate is the MSM? That is rhetorical of course but I am still more amazed one day after the next.
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n in wi Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:06:28pm |
Trig was actually a twin . His brother,Algebra ,didn't survive the abortion. Trig was able to hide in the closet while BHO chased Algebra down the hall .
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Nevergiveup Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:06:49pm |
re: #141 zombie
Hmmmm, interesting. Photos of Palin drinking hard liquor while pregnant?
I don't think that would cause Downs .
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:07:23pm |
re: #119 schlagerman
My daughter was born the same day as Trig Palin. I cannot imagine the anger of Sarah if this is true. Had my 4 month old daughter been used by the NYT in an attempt to score political points, there would be an editor sans testicles, and those testicles would be shoved so far up his ass that his doctor would mistake them for tonsils during his next physical. Is there no depth to which they will not sink? I'll be singing a happy tune the day I hear the NYT is bankrupt.
A big up-ding for that one!
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LoFlyer Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:07:38pm |
Perhaps it is time for the blogs to research and publish our findings on the activities of the family that owns the NYT, specifically sexual affairs, abortions, divorces, drug and alcohol abuse. Stuff like that. See how the owners enjoy the shoe on the other foot.
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Duane Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:07:39pm |
re: #119 schlagerman
My daughter was born the same day as Trig Palin. I cannot imagine the anger of Sarah if this is true. Had my 4 month old daughter been used by the NYT in an attempt to score political points, there would be an editor sans testicles, and those testicles would be shoved so far up his ass that his doctor would mistake them for tonsils during his next physical. Is there no depth to which they will not sink? I'll be singing a happy tune the day I hear the NYT is bankrupt.
You're assuming they have testicles, and some of them probably would enjoy having things shoved up their asses.
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wildcat84 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:07:44pm |
Let me guess: Dan Rather, Mary Mapes, and Bull Burkett are involved.
They have MEMOS.
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debutaunt Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:07:53pm |
re: #140 Reno911
OT
I will never watch Sunday Night Football again as long as Keith Olberman (sp?) is a commentator.
/unless Dallas is playing. Does that make me a hypocrite?
You can put your thumb and forefinger in a position where you can squoosh his head. Very amusing.
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BBev Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:07:59pm |
re: #9 Sizzlack
One of the creepiest headlines I think I've ever seen. The kid is barely 5 months old and the NY Times is doing an expose on him? On what...his forumla? Diapers? This sounds pathetic.
It's whats in his diaper is what they want to know. I can tell them right now. It's shit
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uptight Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:08:06pm |
Since the announcement that Palin would be McCain's running mate, liberals and their newspapers have been throwing all sorts of ugly crap at her and her family.
The result: McCain has overtaken Obama in the polls.
So fire away NYT - about the only thing you could say about Palin that would hurt her standing is that she is a closet liberal, and that's not gonna happen.
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Intrepid Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:08:23pm |
re: #46 MandyManners
It would be a bad thing to suggest parents who are pissed off at the NYT to send them used diapers.
It would be better than the crap they've been sending out to their (dwindling) subscribers for quite a few years now. And more substantive.
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A Kiwi Infidel Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:08:42pm |
re: #132 sngnsgt
The NYT was going to run a story about abortion, but they
killedterminated it.
fixed that for ya
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:09:03pm |
re: #154 Nevergiveup
I don't think that would cause Downs .
So is that the scoop - she drank hard liquor while pregnant?
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spidly Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:09:19pm |
Maybe all of this over the top crap will trace back to the Clintons - pulling in favors with print/TV editors putting this craziness out there to sink Obama.
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:09:42pm |
re: #141 zombie
Hmmmm, interesting. Photos of Palin drinking hard liquor while pregnant?
Unless she is drinking out of the bottle, how can you tell from a picture that she is drinking liquor? And even if she was, alcohol in excess causes fetal alcohol syndrome, not Down's. The two are quite distinct. It would be impossible to confuse them.
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The Other Les Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:09:47pm |
re: #82 ErnieG
"Hey, that's a nice campaign you got there. I'd sure be a shame..."
That sort of thing should be left to certain Large Sicilian Gentlemen from Neew JerseyTM.
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:09:48pm |
re: #147 SummerSong
One of my moonbat neighbors told me she was volunteering at the local dem headquarters and went on the ask me if I'd heard that baby Trig was actually birthed by one of the Palin daughters. I told her that, yes I'd heard that rumor, but that it had already been debunked. What with Bristol being 5 months pregnant, etc. She then told me, No, not that daughter, the younger one.....
Sigh...These people are the lowest.
Ooooooh! That'd be amazing. McCain-Palin would win the election for sure. The entire family are sexoholics! No way Obama could compete with that.
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Shug Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:10:06pm |
What is the difference between the NY times and a bad of shit?
The bag
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Sharmuta Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:10:09pm |
re: #147 SummerSong
That's hard to believe- the chances of a teenager having a Down baby vs an 40+ woman having a Down baby- it's crazy.
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Osama Bin Asshat Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:10:17pm |
Anyone feeling bad for Obama now?...poor guy, listened to his handlers, believed the hype...now...the end is nigh!
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doriangrey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:10:31pm |
The New York Slimes, working hard to destroy not only their own reputations but those of every poor soul unfortunate enough to be associated with New York....
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Nevergiveup Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:10:33pm |
re: #169 galloping granny
Unless she is drinking out of the bottle, how can you tell from a picture that she is drinking liquor? And even if she was, alcohol in excess causes fetal alcohol syndrome, not Down's. The two are quite distinct. It would be impossible to confuse them.
It's never impossible to confuse a liberal.
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:10:56pm |
re: #154 Nevergiveup
I don't think that would cause Downs .
I'm not saying it would -- only that the Times would point to it as being a "bad" mother, Downs or no Downs.
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Reno911 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:11:05pm |
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sagamoregal Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:11:19pm |
# 153 N in Hi
"Trig was actually a twin . His brother,Algebra ,didn't survive the abortion. Trig was able to hide in the closet while BHO chased Algebra down the hall ."
ROTFLMAO!
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:11:47pm |
re: #147 SummerSong
One of my moonbat neighbors told me she was volunteering at the local dem headquarters and went on the ask me if I'd heard that baby Trig was actually birthed by one of the Palin daughters. I told her that, yes I'd heard that rumor, but that it had already been debunked. What with Bristol being 5 months pregnant, etc. She then told me, No, not that daughter, the younger one.....
Sigh...These people are the lowest.
What sheer, unadulterated filth. And please tell your neighbor for me that this is exactly what she is - filth worse than anything out of a pigsty.
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solomonpanting Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:12:17pm |
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Twilight Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:12:30pm |
re: #83 zombie
5. Sarah Palin is a "hypocrite" because she encourages abstinence education, while she and her family f*ck like bunnies?
No way, the N.Y. Times would not sink that low.
Wanna bet?
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Kosh's Shadow Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:12:32pm |
re: #112 Shug
And the people will also decide where to get their news based on the quality. If this is the Times front page, they'll be left with the leftist New Yorkers and the wanna-be equivalents in other cities.
And they'll still wonder why their circulation is tanking.
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Tigger2005 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:12:58pm |
re: #179 sagamoregal
# 153 N in Hi
"Trig was actually a twin . His brother,Algebra ,didn't survive the abortion. Trig was able to hide in the closet while BHO chased Algebra down the hall ."
ROTFLMAO!
Actually they were triplets. Geometry was sold to Tony Rezko in exchange for a summer house in Chicago at well below market value.
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Amy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:13:26pm |
Let's see what they end up publishing, but I can't help but think that this decision has to do with the NYT's plunging revenues. I read that it's going to drop entire sections of the paper in a desperate attempt to save money. I suppose that the powers that be think that stories about Palin's baby, or her daughter's baby, or both will sell papers.
After all, neither Obama nor Biden is doing anything worth reading about these days...
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:13:35pm |
re: #163 uptight
Since the announcement that Palin would be McCain's running mate, liberals and their newspapers have been throwing all sorts of ugly crap at her and her family.
The result: McCain has overtaken Obama in the polls.
So fire away NYT - about the only thing you could say about Palin that would hurt her standing is that she is a closet liberal, and that's not gonna happen.
Let's be fair here. Obama got one day of 6+ from his "convention bounce"
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ContraJihadi Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:14:18pm |
re: #117 twincitiesgirl
Even they can't be that dumb, or can they? Haven't they noticed the trend --that people are sympathetic towards Palin because of all the media attacks? This is translating into more votes for McCain....shhhh maybe they won't catch on to this until after the election. I think their biggest problem is they just talk to each other and are totally clueless about what real people think of their slime filled journalism.
/bbl computer is very slow today
Perhaps the lizard who suggested that Soros is paying for all this bad press is right, but I suspect that there is a certain set of curs at the NYT who are like attack-trained dogs. They see a certain kind of person, a conservative or a Republican, and restraint disappears. Instinct takes over and they are off to the chase.
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deepthroat Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:14:20pm |
They're going to say that the baby might not be her husbands.
Just my guess.
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Kosh's Shadow Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:14:25pm |
re: #153 n in wi
Trig was actually a twin . His brother,Algebra ,didn't survive the abortion. Trig was able to hide in the closet while BHO chased Algebra down the hall .
Trig survived because he knew the angles.
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Master Cranky Hucklebubble Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:14:25pm |
Does anyone remember when the New York Times had any respectability? Any respectability at all? Someone enlighten me. Was it always such a filthy rag?
I am reminded of the scene in Titanic where the ship's designer is pulling out the blueprints and informing Captain and crew that the ship's downward plunge is a mathematical and scientific certainty. The NYT has sealed its fate this time. Let them rearrange the deck chairs and polish the door knobs all they want. They are going down to meet Diver Dan Rather.
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DesertSage Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:14:30pm |
Wow, I thought you were supposed to stop digging when you find yourself in a hole?
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Nevergiveup Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:14:34pm |
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:14:42pm |
re: #9 Sizzlack
One of the creepiest headlines I think I've ever seen. The kid is barely 5 months old and the NY Times is doing an expose on him? On what...his forumla? Diapers? This sounds pathetic.
They should spend a little more time on baby Barry's red diapers.
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yitzy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:14:44pm |
Palin's baby? IT WAS BUSH'S FAULT !
(Sheesh. I can't believe after almost 200 comments that I could still use that line! Love you Lizards! )
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:15:31pm |
Actually, the scandal is that she had quadruplets:
Al (middle name Gebra)
Trig (middle name Onometry)
Cal (middle name Culus)
Geo (middle name Metry).
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Kosh's Shadow Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:15:42pm |
re: #190 Master Cranky Hucklebubble
Does anyone remember when the New York Times had any respectability? Any respectability at all? Someone enlighten me. Was it always such a filthy rag?
I am reminded of the scene in Titanic where the ship's designer is pulling out the blueprints and informing Captain and crew that the ship's downward plunge is a mathematical and scientific certainty. The NYT has sealed its fate this time. Let them rearrange the deck chairs and polish the door knobs all they want. They are going down to meet Diver Dan Rather.
We know as the NY Times sinks, no band will be playing "Nearer My G-d to Thee".
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Nevergiveup Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:15:50pm |
re: #191 DesertSage
Wow, I thought you were supposed to stop digging when you find yourself in a hole?
Especially if you DON'T want to find oil?
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:15:53pm |
re: #188 deepthroat
They're going to say that the baby might not be her husbands.
Just my guess.
Probably trying to get those DNA records again. Which are by law not the first damned bit of their business.
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Shug Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:16:09pm |
re: #196 zombie
Actually, the scandal is that she had quadruplets:
Al (middle name Gebra)
Trig (middle name Onometry)
Cal (middle name Culus)
Geo (middle name Metry).
Fuzzy Math
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Tigger2005 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:16:24pm |
re: #196 zombie
Actually, the scandal is that she had quadruplets:
Al (middle name Gebra)
Trig (middle name Onometry)
Cal (middle name Culus)
Geo (middle name Metry).
Quintuplets!
You left out
Astro Physics Palin
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:16:29pm |
Liberals just can't help themselves - everything they decry about the right they are guilty of engaging in - I really think this is a good sign for McCain/Palin because the Greek Columns are starting to crack. It is like that Star Trek Episode when the Greek God has the Enterprise in his fist yelling "NOOOOO!
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spidly Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:16:51pm |
maybe:
'Life With A Downs Child'
3 or so families who financially and emotionally cracked under the pressure of caring for a Downs Syndrome child. What challenges the Palins can look forward to?
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schlagerman Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:17:07pm |
re: #142 Semper Gumbi
It's my first kid, and every day I look at her in amazement. So helpless, so beautiful, such a blessing. To think that she, or any infant, would be used as a political pawn is disgusting. I have no patience for this type of behavior. However, since this is on Drudge, we need to see if it's actually true.
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:17:21pm |
re: #202 Tigger2005
Quintuplets!
You left out
Astro Physics Palin
That's a branch of Physics, not math!
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ErnieG Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:17:23pm |
On NYT bulletin board:
WILL THE LAST ONE OUT PLEASE TURN OUT THE LIGHTS
(Re: 195 - PIMF)
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spidly Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:17:49pm |
re: #196 zombie
Actually, the scandal is that she had quadruplets:
Al (middle name Gebra)
Trig (middle name Onometry)
Cal (middle name Culus)
Geo (middle name Metry).
don't forget Diffy Q. Palin
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Tigger2005 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:17:51pm |
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victor_yugo Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:17:58pm |
re: #197 Kosh's Shadow
We know as the NY Times sinks, no band will be playing "Nearer My G-d to Thee".
It would remind them of the God they hate.
Get me a violin, and I'll scratch that tune just to spite them.
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:18:07pm |
re: #194 yitzy
Palin's baby? IT WAS BUSH'S FAULT !
(Sheesh. I can't believe after almost 200 comments that I could still use that line! Love you Lizards! )
Bush Lied - Trig Cried
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The Other Les Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:18:11pm |
re: #190 Master Cranky Hucklebubble
Does anyone remember when the New York Times had any respectability? Any respectability at all? Someone enlighten me. Was it always such a filthy rag?
I am reminded of the scene in Titanic where the ship's designer is pulling out the blueprints and informing Captain and crew that the ship's downward plunge is a mathematical and scientific certainty. The NYT has sealed its fate this time. Let them rearrange the deck chairs and polish the door knobs all they want. They are going down to meet Diver Dan Rather.
The New York Times actually reported that the Titanic sank when the rest of the established media were in denial.
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Sharmuta Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:18:25pm |
There are real issues in this election, and it's beyond disgusting that the nyt thinks the American people are that concerned about one baby.
Here's a clue nyt- the American people are not concerned with Sarah Palin's baby. They are concerned with their own babies. What are the Presidential candidates going to do to make this a better country for our babies?!
Clue #2- Sarah Palin is not running for President. John McCain and 0bama are.
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:18:54pm |
OK, the fifth child was
Set Theory Palin.
(Named after the Egyptian God Set - - she likes those pagan names.)
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TheSpartan Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:18:57pm |
*Adjusts Tinfoil Cap*
Theory: A picture and/or suggestion of Palin pulling a Michael Jackson Baby dangling routine?
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USA Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:19:07pm |
“What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?”
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“One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.
“The other kills her own food.”
credit.
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n in wi Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:19:20pm |
re: #184 Tigger2005
Actually they were triplets. Geometry was sold to Tony Rezko in exchange for a summer house in Chicago at well below market value.
I love it . Maybe quadruplets?
Trig, Algebra,Geometry, and
Oh well you all beat me to it.
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:19:48pm |
re: #213 Sharmuta
There are real issues in this election, and it's beyond disgusting that the nyt thinks the American people are that concerned about one baby.
Here's a clue nyt- the American people are not concerned with Sarah Palin's baby. They are concerned with their own babies. What are the Presidential candidates going to do to make this a better country for our babies?!
Clue #2- Sarah Palin is not running for President. John McCain and 0bama are.
Yes but the Libs had this thing contained until Palin showed up - she must be DESTROYED
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looking closely Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:20:00pm |
An expose on a baby with Down syndrome?
Nice.
Do these people realize how asinine they look?
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Tigger2005 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:20:02pm |
re: #214 zombie
OK, the fifth child was
Set Theory Palin.
(Named after the Egyptian God Set - - she likes those pagan names.)
Nah. That was the sixth child. Sextuplets! That makes the scandal even juicier, since it's got a word with "sex" in it.
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utgolfer Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:20:05pm |
Is anyone else starting to think that its about time to hold the advertisers of the NY Times responsible for the garbage that they are supporting through their ad buys in that fishwrap?
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:20:48pm |
re: #213 Sharmuta
There are real issues in this election, and it's beyond disgusting that the nyt thinks the American people are that concerned about one baby.
Here's a clue nyt- the American people are not concerned with Sarah Palin's baby. They are concerned with their own babies. What are the Presidential candidates going to do to make this a better country for our babies?!
Clue #2- Sarah Palin is not running for President. John McCain and 0bama are.
This actually does raise one of the very real issues in this campaign though Sharm - the overwhelming bias in the media and the outrageous lengths that they will apparently go to in order to interfere with our election process.
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Barrypopik Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:20:58pm |
PALIN'S BABY GOES THROUGH MANY DIAPERS EACH DAY.
CONTRIBUTES TO GLOBAL WARMING, RISE OF OCEANS.
(Just poop?)
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jemima Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:20:59pm |
Maybe she was running a brothel out of the governor's mansion. Oh wait, that was Barney Frank (D).
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Salamantis Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:21:00pm |
You're all missing the rationale behind all of these gratuitous media attacks; the media are trying to see if they can make Sarah Palin publicly cry.
1) If she does, she's a fragile overwrought emotional flower who lacks the inner strength and resilience to be a Heartbeat from the Presidency of our nation in these Critical Times (and these times are indeed critical, but for Dems, they Always are).
2) If she doesn't, she's an unfeeling, unemotional stonehearted bitch who, if she couldn't shed a tear for her own family, cannot be expected to feel the pain of the Average American, or to care a fig about them in their Time of Need - which, according to the Dems, is always Now.
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looking closely Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:21:09pm |
re: #39 Shr_Nfr
They will compare the shit he produces to the shit 0bama produces on the American public and be forced to conclude that the kid's shit is of higher quality.
More seriously, I expect unsubstantiated "revelations" that Palin considered an abortion. Unfortunately for 0bama, that is the wrong thing to say. It says that this lady has had the choice that has faced many, many women in their lives and then decided to have the child on the strength of her beliefs and character.
Of course she considered one. . .
The same way Obama considered joining the military.
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ErnieG Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:21:40pm |
re: #219 wright1
Yes but the Libs had this thing contained until Palin showed up - she must be DESTROYED
Sadly, I'm afraid we're going to see a Full Court Press until election day.
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guzziguy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:21:45pm |
☪NN is broadcasting a McCain expose right now. I just looked in, they were taking about the Keeting 5.
Odd, they've cleverly avoided the ripe field of improper associations of the one
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MrSnuggles Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:21:53pm |
So after the news of the NYT cutting sections from their paper, they are going to do something ridiculous like this? Why not just cut their losses and shut the paper down or sell it?
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Nevergiveup Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:22:01pm |
re: #230 Salamantis
You're all missing the rationale behind all of these gratuitous media attacks; the media are trying to see if they can make Sarah Palin publicly cry.
1) If she does, she's a fragile overwrought emotional flower who lacks the inner strength and resilience to be a Heartbeat from the Presidency of our nation in these Critical Times (and these times are indeed critical, but for Dems, they Always are).
2) If she doesn't, she's an unfeeling, unemotional stonehearted bitch who, if she couldn't shed a tear for her own family, cannot be expected to feel the pain of the Average American, or to care a fig about them in their Time of Need - which, according to the Dems, is always Now.
What if she punches out the NYT's reporter?
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David Simon Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:23:13pm |
re: #176 Nevergiveup
It's never impossible to confuse a liberal.
You have that right. I can't count the number of liberal women who have lectured me that Hillary was the best choice for President because "we need a woman in the White House!" Enter Sarah Palin, a strong conservative female, and they morph from Gloria Steinham into Phyllis Schlafly: "She has no business accepting the nod for Vice-President. She should be home taking care of her family."
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n in wi Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:23:33pm |
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livefreeor die Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:23:35pm |
re: #192 Nevergiveup
A quick aside:
Sources: Brady out with ACL tear
[Link: sports.yahoo.com...]
GO JETS!
Boy, once Karma found the Patriots, it ain't letting go.
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Typicalwhitey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:23:36pm |
W.T.F.?
WHAT could they possibly be thinking?
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Ojoe Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:23:39pm |
Pretty funny stuff over at The Anchoress right now...
September 7, 2008The Humbling: “The One” goes to Don Clinton
So, it appears that “The One” is going begging to Don Clinton, hat in hand:The One strides in confidently and extends his hand to The Don. The Don looks up, contemplates the proffered hand, and watches The One’s smile fade as it is not shaken. The One retracts his hand, and tilts his head, comprehending, but not liking it. Still, he needs this meeting.
Don Clinton nods slightly, and with a silky hand motions The One to take a seat. Don Clinton’s blue eyes are grave, but there is a noticeable twitching about his mouth, as though he is suppressing a smile, or sucking on a peeled grape. He remains silent. The One looks about the room in discomfort, waiting for an opening. Don Clinton makes a point of playing with his pinky ring, and gives him none. Finally, clearing his throat and assuming a cavalier affect, The One speaks:
The One: Uh, thank you, Mr. President, for seeing me in your beautiful offices.
Don Clinton nods, but says nothing. More praise is due.
The One: I, um, think it’s er…a wonderful, a wonderful testament to your, eh, your um, unquestionable commitment to em, the uh, your solidarity with the black community.
Don Clinton, remembering when The One played the race card on him, narrows his eyes and does not smile. He leans back in his chair and waits, squinting through the smoke, his cigar tilting upward in his mouth, ala FDR. More praise is due.
The One: It - it was a masterstroke of erm, brilliant racist-baiting, erm…a stroke of masterburbating, uhhhh, stroking, ermmm…a master…stroke…of getting back at the Republican jerks who impeached you and foreplaying, I mean forestalling any future innuendo or scandals intern erm…in turn.
Don Clinton’s eyes are ablaze with anger. The One, too cool to cower, crosses his legs and wishes for a teleprompter.
It goes on !
Link: [Link: theanchoressonline.com...]
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reine.de.tout Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:23:47pm |
re: #233 guzziguy
☪NN is broadcasting a McCain expose right now. I just looked in, they were taking about the Keeting 5.
Odd, they've cleverly avoided the ripe field of improper associations of the one
That's wrong. It should be ". . the improper associations of the one "
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barry the baptist Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:23:58pm |
Character assassins are in full gear now. Since they (NYT, et al) cannot win on debating the issues they resort to mudslingling. What was that called ealier in the 20th/c: yellow journalism?
Truly pathetic.
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Tigger2005 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:24:10pm |
re: #230 Salamantis
You're all missing the rationale behind all of these gratuitous media attacks; the media are trying to see if they can make Sarah Palin publicly cry.
1) If she does, she's a fragile overwrought emotional flower who lacks the inner strength and resilience to be a Heartbeat from the Presidency of our nation in these Critical Times (and these times are indeed critical, but for Dems, they Always are).
2) If she doesn't, she's an unfeeling, unemotional stonehearted bitch who, if she couldn't shed a tear for her own family, cannot be expected to feel the pain of the Average American, or to care a fig about them in their Time of Need - which, according to the Dems, is always Now.
What the American people will see instead is a strong woman who sees little need to acknowledge the puny attacks of her moral inferiors.
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:24:12pm |
re: #231 looking closely
Of course she considered one. . .
The same way Obama considered joining the military.
Actually, she might very well have considered abortion. It takes lots of guts and faith to raise a disabled child.
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looking closely Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:24:14pm |
re: #188 deepthroat
They're going to say that the baby might not be her husbands.
Just my guess.
I think that's the textbook definition of libel.
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mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:24:17pm |
For the last eight years the Dems and their advocates in the Press have had a free hand to sling shit all over anything Republican and never worry about anyone thinking they went too far with their attacks. They are like a dog on a chain who keeps running further and further out because he doesn't know how long the chain is. Eventually the dog gets to the end and the chain yanks them on the neck. And that is where they'll find themselves if they keep up the asinine hit pieces on Sarah Palin and her family. And they will do just that because they can't stop themselves. And they'll end up driving voters to McCain-Palin.
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:24:20pm |
re: #221 Tigger2005
Nah. That was the sixth child. Sextuplets! That makes the scandal even juicier, since it's got a word with "sex" in it.
OK, the sixth child is
Topo (middle name Logy).
(Named after comic mouse Topo Gigio.)
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:24:22pm |
Yeah I agree with a lot of the sentiments - this has "backfire" written all over it and frankly to voters Sarah is scooping up do not read this rag.
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TheSpartan Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:24:24pm |
Drudge now claims it's from "newsroom sources"
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Sharmuta Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:24:37pm |
re: #230 Salamantis
You're all missing the rationale behind all of these gratuitous media attacks; the media are trying to see if they can make Sarah Palin publicly cry.
1) If she does, she's a fragile overwrought emotional flower who lacks the inner strength and resilience to be a Heartbeat from the Presidency of our nation in these Critical Times (and these times are indeed critical, but for Dems, they Always are).
2) If she doesn't, she's an unfeeling, unemotional stonehearted bitch who, if she couldn't shed a tear for her own family, cannot be expected to feel the pain of the Average American, or to care a fig about them in their Time of Need - which, according to the Dems, is always Now.
I think you're right, but I would go with the simpler they want to make her cry and quit.
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SouthAmericanWay Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:24:41pm |
re: #157 LoFlyer
Perhaps it is time for the blogs to research and publish our findings on the activities of the family that owns the NYT, specifically sexual affairs, abortions, divorces, drug and alcohol abuse. Stuff like that. See how the owners enjoy the shoe on the other foot.
I completely agree with that. It's time to take on the Sulzbergers PERSONALLY. Let's see how they like it.
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solomonpanting Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:24:52pm |
Trig actually will have to have someone cosine any document before he sines off.
(Just going off on a tangent.)
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wong fei hung Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:25:37pm |
Drudge's headline has gone from the NYT fronting an "expose" to a "detailed story".
In 30 minutes, it'll be a "haiku":
It must be Bristol's.
Obama cannot lose now!
She should've killed it.
-WFH
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:25:47pm |
I can't believe the piece would be remotely positive toward Governor Palin, so lets assume for the sake of argument that its a hit piece. It's almost mind boggling to believe they would be that stupid.
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Globular Cluster Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:26:04pm |
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TalkinKamel Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:26:04pm |
Maybe they've found out the baby's one of those mysterious alien babies, like the ones who pop up in British attics. . . [Link: www.museumofhoaxes.com...]
Seriously, I hope the NYT, and the rest of the left, keep this up. Finally, they're letting their mask drop, and showing everybody what they really are.
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:26:06pm |
re: #250 looking closely
I think that's the textbook definition of libel.
Just about every word that anyone has written surrounding the whole affair - starting with Alan Colmes - fits the textbook definition of libel.
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Ziggy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:26:09pm |
The grey hag is obviously trying to shrink their readership.
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MandyManners Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:26:44pm |
re: #235 Nevergiveup
What if she punches out the NYT's reporter?
Or, Todd does. Either way, I'd love to see it.
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looking closely Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:27:05pm |
re: #249 galloping granny
Actually, she might very well have considered abortion. It takes lots of guts and faith to raise a disabled child.
I meant what I wrote, literally.
She likely considered an abortion like Obama considered joining the military. . .they both thought about it for a few seconds and then decided not to do it.
Frankly, I couldn't fault her if she did have an abortion (and of course, ironically, had she done it, nobody would ever have heard about this non-"scandal"). But IMO she did the much braver thing by having the kid.
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The Other Les Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:27:21pm |
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Nevergiveup Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:27:22pm |
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Lively Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:27:22pm |
re: #258 Killgore Trout
Koskidz are oddly silent about this.
Maybe they don't check Drudge often. DU is silent at the moment.
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hazzyday Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:27:33pm |
I'd rather hear about Obama's baby ACORN.
Oprah is helping him cover the story up.
/s
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:27:47pm |
After seriously pondering it, my only conclusions are:
a. Drudge simply has this one wrong; OR
b. They'll try to claim that she cheated on her husband and Trig has a different father; OR
c. It is Willow's child.
I really can't envision it being any other option.
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:27:50pm |
re: #267 looking closely
I meant what I wrote, literally.
She likely considered an abortion like Obama considered joining the military. . .they both thought about it for a few seconds and then decided not to do it.
Frankly, I couldn't fault her if she did have an abortion (and of course, ironically, had she done it, nobody would ever have heard about this non-"scandal"). But IMO she did the much braver thing by having the kid.
I suspect she thought about it a little bit longer than a couple of seconds. I surely did.
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loppyd Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:27:52pm |
An expose on a baby?
That should go over well with moms across the country.
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FrogMarch Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:27:56pm |
NY Times: - Lie on the front page
apologize later (on page 38B)
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Ojoe Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:27:56pm |
re: #46 MandyManners
It would be a bad thing to suggest parents who are pissed off at the NYT to send them used diapers.
Now that deserves to make it in to the top 10 comments folks.
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n in wi Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:27:58pm |
John Edwards was over heard complaining about Piper licking her hand to pat down Trigs hair. He was pissed because that cost him {His Campaign} $600.00.
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Opilio Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:28:07pm |
re: #196 zombie
Actually, the scandal is that she had quadruplets:
Al (middle name Gebra)
Trig (middle name Onometry)
Cal (middle name Culus)
Geo (middle name Metry).
Matty (Maddox)
Ari (Thmetic) ?
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MonkeySon Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:28:09pm |
Perhaps they will try to push the li(n)e that her son's Down's Syndrome was caused by drug abuse.
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Tigger2005 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:28:10pm |
re: #263 TalkinKamel
Maybe they've found out the baby's one of those mysterious alien babies, like the ones who pop up in British attics. . . [Link: www.museumofhoaxes.com...]
Seriously, I hope the NYT, and the rest of the left, keep this up. Finally, they're letting their mask drop, and showing everybody what they really are.
They let their masks drop long ago. I'm getting impatient waiting for the whole putrid edifice of the MSM to come crashing down like the Tower of Barad-dur. I think it's being propped up by Soros and Saudi money.
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Crimsonfisted Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:28:30pm |
Let them dish their worst. As another poster has said:
"We've got your back, Sarah."
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victor_yugo Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:28:32pm |
re: #257 solomonpanting
Trig actually will have to have someone cosine any document before he sines off.
(Just going off on a tangent.)
I'll take that as a sine.
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:28:36pm |
re: #259 wong fei hung
In 30 minutes, it'll be a "haiku":
It must be Bristol's.
Obama cannot lose now!
She should've killed it.
Nice!
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LoFlyer Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:28:40pm |
Here are the owners of NYT courtesy Wikipedia
"The Ochs-Sulzberger family, one of the United States' great newspaper dynasties, has owned the Times since 1896. After the publisher went public in the 1960s, the family continued to exert control through its ownership of the vast majority of Class B voting shares. Class A shareholders cannot vote on many important matters relating to the company, while Class B shareholders can vote on all matters.
Dual-class structures caught on in the mid-20th century as families such as the Grahams of the Washington Post Company sought to gain access to public capital without losing control. Dow Jones & Co., publisher of The Wall Street Journal, had a similar structure and was controlled by the Bancroft family (it was bought by the News Corporation in 2007).
Major Class A shareholders, as of December 31, 2006, include the Sulzberger family (19%), T. Rowe Price Associates, Inc. (14.99%), Private Capital Management Inc. (9.34%), MFS Investment Management (8.28%) and Morgan Stanley Investment Management Inc. (7.15%).[46]
The Ochs-Sulzberger family trust controls roughly 88 percent of the company's class B shares.[46] Any alteration to the dual-class structure must be ratified by six of eight directors who sit on the board of the Ochs-Sulzberger family trust. The Trust board members are Daniel H. Cohen, James M. Cohen, Lynn G. Dolnick, Susan W. Dryfoos, Michael Golden, Eric M. A. Lax, Arthur O. Sulzberger, Jr. and Cathy J. Sulzberger.[46]"
Lets see public class "A" shares do not get a vote. Class "B" owned by the Ochs-Sulzberger have full voting priviledges. This is not a publicaly run company. The class A stockholders are extremely unhappy with NYT's poor financial performance and loss of stock value. Reminds me of a capitolist dictatorship that the libs hate so much.
/Fracken' hypocrites
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kynna Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:28:42pm |
I think the above poster (sorry, I should have noted it) who suggested it would be a story about three families whose lives have been destroyed by having a Downs child is very likely.
It's all to inform and to show how a woman with five kids, one of them disabled, can't be Vice President.
And it's going to blowback at them with a flying mass of flaming poo diapers.
That's an astoundingly disturbing image. They should really think twice.
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looking closely Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:28:44pm |
re: #261 MrPaulRevere
I can't believe the piece would be remotely positive toward Governor Palin, so lets assume for the sake of argument that its a hit piece. It's almost mind boggling to believe they would be that stupid.
There could be a legitimate story there about when she found out she was pregnant and what decisions she made about it, and who she told, etc.
But none of this would reflect well on the NYT, which I doubt could resist the urge to spin this story against Palin personally.
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SummerSong Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:28:56pm |
re: #173 Sharmuta
I know. . .
I cannot even begin to tell you how much that encounter disgusted me. Literally, it made me sick.
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livefreeor die Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:29:10pm |
Let their advertisers feel the pinch for this one.
Problem is, you'd have to look at it to find out who's buying the ads.
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kuffar Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:29:29pm |
re: #230 Salamantis
3. Option. She goes to NYC to be on the View and stops by the NYT offices. Find the Big Chief and punches the daylights out of him, breaks his nose and knocks some teeth out.
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talking stick Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:29:37pm |
Honest to God, when I hear this kind of bottom feeding sleeze, the image coming to mind is that of the former DC Mayor, M Berry, slumped on the edge of a seedy hotel bed in a rumpled tee-shirt and oily skin repeating into camcorders for the whole world to hear:
..."that f###ing bitch, that f###ing bitch"...
Pure class, I tell ya!
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mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:29:41pm |
I think we're baqrking up the wrong tree with the math reference. Trig is more likely a reference to a part on a rifle.
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jemima Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:29:47pm |
It's been demoted.
NYT PREPARES TO FRONT DETAILED STORY ON PALIN'S BABY, NEWSROOM SOURCES TELL DRUDGE...
It was an expose, now it's a story. If we wait long enough they'll admit the truth--it's a fairy tale.
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Mars Needs Neocons Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:29:50pm |
re: #169 galloping granny
Unless she is drinking out of the bottle, how can you tell from a picture that she is drinking liquor? And even if she was, alcohol in excess causes fetal alcohol syndrome, not Down's. The two are quite distinct. It would be impossible to confuse them.
Most liberals that are not in the disabled community can't tell the difference, trust me on this. I've heard one say "Oh, you know, one of those retard types, I can't tell the difference." Hell, I've heard similar comments from liberals in executive capacities in disabled organizations.
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livefreeor die Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:29:58pm |
re: #281 Tigger2005
They let their masks drop long ago. I'm getting impatient waiting for the whole putrid edifice of the MSM to come crashing down like the Tower of Barad-dur. I think it's being propped up by Soros and Saudi money.
and styrofoam Greek columns.
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FrogMarch Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:30:04pm |
Remember all those NY Times front page stories about John Edwards cheating on his cancer stricken wife?
me neither.
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Sharmuta Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:30:07pm |
They are desperate- so desperate they will try anything. Including attacking a 5 month old Down syndrome baby. They are in their death throws. They are so apoplectic that they will try the same tactic that backfired last week and put them in this position in the first place. They are insane. They are desperate and insane. They can't believe this is happening, so they will try the exact same insane approach that's already failed. Insane!
Pass the popcorn.
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:30:20pm |
I am still waiting for Obama to keep his promise on that whole "I'm my brother's keeper" thing - I think George is still waiting for his phone call to up his allowance to 80 cents a day - my bad - he doesn't have a phone...
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MandyManners Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:30:24pm |
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hazzyday Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:30:26pm |
I can't see how they would write a negative story on a Down's Syndrome baby. It's either a positive one, or it's a negative one about Gov. Palin's judgment.
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SouthAmericanWay Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:30:33pm |
re: #222 utgolfer
Is anyone else starting to think that its about time to hold the advertisers of the NY Times responsible for the garbage that they are supporting through their ad buys in that fishwrap?
Agreed!
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LSD Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:30:35pm |
re: #273 zombie
After seriously pondering it, my only conclusions are:
a. Drudge simply has this one wrong; OR
b. They'll try to claim that she cheated on her husband and Trig has a different father; OR
c. It is Willow's child.I really can't envision it being any other option.
Either way, it's the family's business, and there may be real hell to pay by the NYT in the court of public opinion, IMHO
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:30:44pm |
re: #280 MonkeySon
Perhaps they will try to push the li(n)e that her son's Down's Syndrome was caused by drug abuse.
No. No paper would be that moronic, since Down's is a genetic condition not caused (nor rectified) by environmental factors.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:31:05pm |
re: #273 zombie
After seriously pondering it, my only conclusions are:
a. Drudge simply has this one wrong; OR
b. They'll try to claim that she cheated on her husband and Trig has a different father; OR
c. It is Willow's child.I really can't envision it being any other option.
Could Bigfoot be the father? Do they have bigfeet in Alaska?
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n in wi Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:31:05pm |
re: #249 galloping granny
Actually, she might very well have considered abortion. It takes lots of guts and faith to raise a disabled child.
Then credit is due to Barrak's grandmother.
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PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:31:26pm |
Trig didn't do enough for the Katrina victims!
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Lively Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:31:29pm |
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Ojoe Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:31:34pm |
re: #286 kynna
Well her husband will pitch in if she's too busy.
Get with the new age program folks.
As a guy, I'm offended.
/not a sarcastic comment
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livefreeor die Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:31:38pm |
re: #303 SouthAmericanWay
Agreed!
Count me in. Who wants to wade in and find out who the advertisers are?
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Shug Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:32:06pm |
re: #306 Walter L. Newton
Could Bigfoot be the father? Do they have bigfeet in Alaska?
Not according to Diddy
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The Other Les Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:32:06pm |
re: #277 Ojoe
Now that deserves to make it in to the top 10 comments folks.
Isn't there a regulation against sending excrement in the US Mail?
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:32:17pm |
re: #299 Sharmuta
I regret that I have only 1 ding to give for my country.
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solomonpanting Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:32:20pm |
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Ojoe Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:32:57pm |
re: #306 Walter L. Newton
Bigfoot now lives in Canada, in Sasquatchiwan.
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Idle Drifter Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:33:01pm |
Sorry to go OT.
I was listening to 106.7 KBPI Denver will driving home from work several days ago when they brought up the talking point "Should Gov. Palin run as VP with a pregnant teenage daughter?" Most of the callers were supportive of Gov. Palin with a few asking why Bristol's personal life justifies this line of questioning. The Radio jocks answer was the Right and Republican attacks on Sen. Obama's minister Rev. Wright completely justifies inquires into Bristol's life and to call into question Abstinence Only Sexual Education.
So attacking a public figure that makes racist and fear mongering speeches within a public forum of a church was wrong and it's only justice to attack a private figure for being pregnant while still under the age of 18. The train of thought going through some people's heads amazes me.
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Sol Roth Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:33:05pm |
re: #141 zombie
Hmmmm, interesting. Photos of Palin drinking hard liquor while pregnant?
Doesn't cause Downs.
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:33:20pm |
re: #315 The Other Les
Isn't there a regulation against sending excrement in the US Mail?
Yup. Biohazard. Of course you can always pack it according to OSHA regs and clearly label it :)
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ErnieG Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:33:27pm |
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Nevergiveup Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:33:32pm |
re: #315 The Other Les
Isn't there a regulation against sending excrement in the US Mail?
No, why do you think you get all that bulk mail?
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:33:35pm |
re: #313 buzzsawmonkey
So it's true? The Times reporters have Low-Down Syndrome?
A late entry, but it's making its moving down the stretch! Who will win Pun of the Thread?!?!?
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Opilio Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:33:48pm |
re: #251 mich-again
For the last eight years the Dems and their advocates in the Press have had a free hand to sling shit all over anything Republican and never worry about anyone thinking they went too far with their attacks. They are like a dog on a chain who keeps running further and further out because he doesn't know how long the chain is. Eventually the dog gets to the end and the chain yanks them on the neck. And that is where they'll find themselves if they keep up the asinine hit pieces on Sarah Palin and her family. And they will do just that because they can't stop themselves. And they'll end up driving voters to McCain-Palin.
It would be nice if/when that metaphorical neck yank comes, it will be strong enough to break it (the neck of the MSM).
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looking closely Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:34:10pm |
re: #302 hazzyday
I can't see how they would write a negative story on a Down's Syndrome baby. It's either a positive one, or it's a negative one about Gov. Palin's judgment.
It remains to be seen how negative this story is.
Its easy to jump to conclusions given the NYT's highly partisan history (I think we all remember that libellous story implying infidelity on McCain's part), but let's see what they write before excoriating it.
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livefreeor die Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:34:13pm |
re: #318 Ojoe
Bigfoot now lives in Canada, in Sasquatchiwan.
But he's going to vote in Philadelphia...and Detroit...and Iowa City...
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Sharmuta Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:34:30pm |
re: #308 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican
Trig didn't do enough for the Katrina victims!
When Trig passes wind, hurricanes form.
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Tigger2005 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:34:30pm |
re: #306 Walter L. Newton
Could Bigfoot be the father? Do they have bigfeet in Alaska?
They have ABOMINABLE snowmen.
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stevieray Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:34:34pm |
re: #273 zombie
How about this:
They aborted the baby.
Realized it would look bad.
Faked the rest of pregnancy.
Stunt Baby!
/I'm ready for my column, Mr. Shulzberger
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Shug Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:34:40pm |
re: #317 solomonpanting
Glad to see you're not so obtuse.
oh no, I'm not going to fall into that trapezoid
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Tamron Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:34:41pm |
PROTECTING AMERICA'S SWEETHEART
Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler
To The Point
Thursday, 04 September 2008America - real America - is in love. I know I sure am, and I have a lot of company. Yes, it's platonic love. After all, she's married and faithful (and so am I!). Nonetheless, I, like so many millions of Americans, have fallen head over heels in love with Sarah Palin. She is America's Sweetheart.
Say goodnight, Bar..., Ber..., Buh..., what's that guy's name again?
That guy is so, like, over. So yesterday, like the tax-and-spend welfare state liberal-leftie cant he espouses. Obambi represents the past. Sarah represents the future.
Which is why my deepest, most passionate desire regarding Sarah Palin is that President Bush order a doubling of the Secret Service detail to protect her. And then we provide some backup.
Sarah is the Hate-America Left's nightmare.
The pathologically deranged smears of the hate-America moonbats this week have only served to increase enthusiasm and sympathy for her. The moonbats are in a state of panicked rage because they rightly see in her the capacity to destroy all the myths that give meaning to their angry little lives.
Which means their vicious verbal attacks on her person are going to turn physical. There are going to be attempts on her life.
I don't want to bum out the celebrating, the elation, the thrill over Sarah - but she has got to be protected.
Thus I am setting up a website with the domain name of protectsarah.com. Its purpose is to be a clearinghouse for organizing and coordinating civilian protection - particularly by military veterans - of Sarah wherever she goes on the campaign trail.
This would be an adjunct to, and in no way interfering with, her Secret Service protection. Just peaceful watching over her...
Read the rest of the article, where Jack Wheeler included a photo of his grandfather standing next to Teddy Roosevelt. Grandpa was a Secret Service agent who had the honor of protecting four Presidents.
Note that Jack's new website is still in the forming stage, so bookmark it and check back often for updates.
This is worthwhile.
.
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spidly Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:34:55pm |
re: #305 zombie
No. No paper would be that moronic, since Down's is a genetic condition not caused (nor rectified) by environmental factors.
Palin prayed for a normal health baby but her prayers were not answered. going after the religious thing too. that might be sleezy enough for them
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LeonidasOfSparta Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:34:57pm |
Liberals just can't help themselves - everything they decry about the right they are guilty of engaging in - I really think this is a good sign for McCain/Palin because the Greek Columns are starting to crack.
While I do not have the exact quote, or the link I wish add to your astute observation a paraphrase of something Mark Levin aired on his programme-- remarks from Biden in which he repeats over and over complaints about the attacks on Obama's LACK of substance in the following paraphrased question: "what do people talk about when they have nothing to say?" (or words to that effect) which he repeated to a crowd 4 or 5 times in a row.
All I could think was: YOU tell me, Biden, you plagiarizing, racist, sexist, MORON. You who are the screaming lunatic of nonsense-speak for the Obamatons--and while you are telling me this, Biden, LOOK IN THE MIRROR for your answer IS IN YOUR QUESTION!
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:35:02pm |
re: #322 galloping granny
Yup. Biohazard. Of course you can always pack it according to OSHA regs and clearly label it :)
Or we could send this - [Link: www.zymetrical.com...]
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Globular Cluster Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:35:07pm |
Maybe the NYT found out that the Trig is Bush's fault! He's the spawn of Chimpsky McHalliburton!re: #299 Sharmuta
They are desperate- so desperate they will try anything. Including attacking a 5 month old Down syndrome baby. They are in their death throws. They are so apoplectic that they will try the same tactic that backfired last week and put them in this position in the first place. They are insane. They are desperate and insane. They can't believe this is happening, so they will try the exact same insane approach that's already failed. Insane!
Pass the popcorn.
Yes, the Left is self-destructing over Sarah Palin. It is like Captain Ahab chasing Moby Dick. They will perish in a pointless quest.
I agree, bring it.
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mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:35:16pm |
I look for the NYT to point out how its an easier decision to have a Down's child when you have lots of resources (read: money) to help pay for extra expenses that will come along, in an effort to downplay Sarah Palin's courageous decision to keep the baby. And then they'll go into full attack mode about how low income children with Down's syndrome are left behind by the evil capitalistic Republicans.
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Sol Roth Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:35:24pm |
I used to read Drudge daily, just out of habit. Then I heard him on his now defunct Sunday radio show.
Very, very unimpressive fellow.
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byzantium Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:35:36pm |
perhaps they will reveal that Joe Biden's daughter was arrested for throwing Trig's diaper at police?
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Lively Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:35:38pm |
re: #335 Shug
oh no, I'm not going to fall into that trapezoid
As long as it's equilateral protection for all minorities.
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:35:40pm |
From the NYT's point of view this problem could have all been avoided if she just killed it - she brought all of this on her own
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CyanSnowHawk Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:35:41pm |
re: #273 zombie
After seriously pondering it, my only conclusions are:
a. Drudge simply has this one wrong; OR
b. They'll try to claim that she cheated on her husband and Trig has a different father; OR
c. It is Willow's child.I really can't envision it being any other option.
If for some reason they start up again with the DNA testing demand, what exactly are they looking for? IIRC, is DNA testing for ancestry capable of discriminating between Mother and Daughter? Or are they trying to show that Todd is not the Father to spur yet more speculation?
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:35:47pm |
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doriangrey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:35:49pm |
re: #328 ploome hineni
what did the baby do?
have an affair with the doctor's wife?
WHAT?
Na, Trig slapped the doctor and went Moose hunting instead of hanging out in the nursery ward...
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Lively Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:36:22pm |
re: #342 Sol Roth
I used to read Drudge daily, just out of habit. Then I heard him on his now defunct Sunday radio show.
Very, very unimpressive fellow.
That's what I thought too. Only listened once.
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Glaucon Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:36:25pm |
Liberal elites in this country like to think they're intellectually superior and toss around words like nuance and gravitas when in fact, when it comes right down to it, they are both lowlifes and morons.
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SouthAmericanWay Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:36:56pm |
re: #273 zombie
After seriously pondering it, my only conclusions are:
a. Drudge simply has this one wrong; OR
b. They'll try to claim that she cheated on her husband and Trig has a different father; OR
c. It is Willow's child.I really can't envision it being any other option.
Zombie, I think it really could be that abortion "was considered"... How they are going to prove this is another matter.
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:37:02pm |
re: #334 stevieray
How about this:
They aborted the baby.
Realized it would look bad.
Faked the rest of pregnancy.
Stunt Baby!/I'm ready for my column, Mr. Shulzberger
Oooh, now that's a good one. You should apply for a job at Democratic Underground!
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LoFlyer Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:37:19pm |
Here is some info on the NYT chairman of the board. Looks like he is about to get a divorce. Anyone care to research this? Excerpt from Wikipedia
"Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr. (born 22 September 1951) became the publisher of The New York Times in 1992 and chairman of the board of its owner, The New York Times Company, in 1997, succeeding his father, Arthur Ochs Sulzberger.[1]
Sulzberger was born in Mount Kisco, New York, the son of Barbara Winslow (née Grant) and the previous Times publisher Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, and the grandson of another Times publisher, Arthur Hays Sulzberger. He is married to artist and journalist Gail Gregg. They recently announced plans to end their marriage.[1] According to the chronicle of the Sulzberger family and The New York Times published in The Trust: The Private and Powerful Family behind the New York Times, by Susan E. Tifft and Alex S. Jones, published by Little, Brown in 1999, Sulzberger is sometimes referred to by the nickname "Pinch", a variation on his father's nickname "Punch", but dislikes the name."
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Crimsonfisted Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:37:24pm |
re: #314 Shug
re: #306 Walter L. NewtonCould Bigfoot be the father? Do they have bigfeet in Alaska?
Not according to Diddy
I thought they were all in Hobbiton.
No wait! That's Proudfoot. No wait! ProudFEET!
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LeonidasOfSparta Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:37:27pm |
#338 the original quote at the top was from wright1 comment #203
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Ojoe Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:37:35pm |
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n in wi Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:37:35pm |
re: #314 Shug
Not according to Diddy
No bigfoot in Alaska.
They don't even have black bears. just polar[ White] ones. That's what made Diddy so mad.
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victor_yugo Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:37:51pm |
re: #317 solomonpanting
Glad to see you're not so obtuse.
Even with actue abdominal discomfort, I'm right.
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Sol Roth Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:37:54pm |
re: #336 Tamron
I'm on-board with that. It's a good idea since the violent Communists are now legion.
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solomonpanting Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:38:01pm |
re: #335 Shug
oh no, I'm not going to fall into that trapezoid
If you come around 360 degrees, you will.
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Lively Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:38:11pm |
re: #351 SouthAmericanWay
Zombie, I think it really could be that abortion "was considered"... How they are going to prove this is another matter.
Who cares what her thought process was. Ahhhh...the left thought police care that's who.
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:38:23pm |
re: #305 zombie
No. No paper would be that moronic, since Down's is a genetic condition not caused (nor rectified) by environmental factors.
Alan Colmes was that moronic Zombie. He blamed Trig's Down's Syndrome on some imaginary medical neglect by Sarah Palin when she chose to fly home to deliver (in repeated consultation with her doctor) rather than attempt delivery in an unknown ER where they did not even have her medical records.
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mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:39:23pm |
re: #353 LoFlyer
Anyone care to research this?
After much painstaking research I have a quick summary.
Suzlberger = Shit burger.
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Tamron Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:39:23pm |
re: #333 Tigger2005
They have ABOMINABLE snowmen.
Heh! You think I'm abominable, you should see my wife.....
.
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:39:37pm |
re: #355 LeonidasOfSparta
#338 the original quote at the top was from wright1 comment #203
Thanks for the credit
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Shug Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:40:02pm |
re: #358 n in wi
No bigfoot in Alaska.
They don't even have black bears. just polar[ White] ones. That's what made Diddy so mad.
Glenn Beck busted diddy's balls on this.
Alaska has 3.4% african americans
diddy, who can live anywhere he wants chose a swanky New Jersey city that has 1.5% african americans
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MandyManners Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:40:04pm |
re: #341 mich-again
I look for the NYT to point out how its an easier decision to have a Down's child when you have lots of resources (read: money) to help pay for extra expenses that will come along, in an effort to downplay Sarah Palin's courageous decision to keep the baby. And then they'll go into full attack mode about how low income children with Down's syndrome are left behind by the evil capitalistic Republicans.
If this is an article on her decision, I guarantee you that this angle will be major.
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Canadian Guy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:40:41pm |
I predict that a week from now McCain-Palin will be at 55 per cent in the polls and Palin will have 25,000 people at every campaign stop she makes.
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victor_yugo Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:40:46pm |
re: #357 Ojoe
They certainly are not well read in history.
It is Elizabeth Tudor's birthday BTW
Happy Birthday Tu-dor,
Happy Birthday Tu-dor...
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Sharmuta Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:40:49pm |
I would laugh my ass off if this story is a "they considered an abortion" and then try to smear Sarah for it. Go ahead, nyt! Let that mask of hypocrisy slip just a little bit more. Support a woman's right to choose- unless you can smear her for it, huh? Bring it.
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clgood Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:41:19pm |
Oh, dear. Do you suppose this will be as accurate and devastating as the NYT's expose of McCain's affair?
I'm so scared.
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Sol Roth Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:41:29pm |
re: #353 LoFlyer
Here is some info on the NYT chairman of the board. Looks like he is about to get a divorce. Anyone care to research this? Excerpt from Wikipedia
"Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr. (born 22 September 1951) became the publisher of The New York Times in 1992 and chairman of the board of its owner, The New York Times Company, in 1997, succeeding his father, Arthur Ochs Sulzberger.[1]
Sulzberger was born in Mount Kisco, New York, the son of Barbara Winslow (née Grant) and the previous Times publisher Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, and the grandson of another Times publisher, Arthur Hays Sulzberger. He is married to artist and journalist Gail Gregg. They recently announced plans to end their marriage.[1] According to the chronicle of the Sulzberger family and The New York Times published in The Trust: The Private and Powerful Family behind the New York Times, by Susan E. Tifft and Alex S. Jones, published by Little, Brown in 1999, Sulzberger is sometimes referred to by the nickname "Pinch", a variation on his father's nickname "Punch", but dislikes the name."
Pinche cabron.
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:41:37pm |
re: #346 CyanSnowHawk
If for some reason they start up again with the DNA testing demand, what exactly are they looking for? IIRC, is DNA testing for ancestry capable of discriminating between Mother and Daughter? Or are they trying to show that Todd is not the Father to spur yet more speculation?
Oh sure, DNA testing would tell that. However, that is not the point. The point is that no other candidate for national office at any level has EVER under any circumstances been asked to prove that their children are their own.
To do so in this case is not only a slap at Sarah & Todd Palin, it is a direct slap in the face to the parents of every disabled child in the nation. Worse, it sets a precedent where women will be required to provide this kind of information and smeared as whores if they refuse. I don't see anybody asking Barrak Obama to prove his paternity of his daughters.
We cannot allow this to go unchallenged. If we do, we will all pay in very short order.
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mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:41:49pm |
re: #370 Canadian Guy
I predict that a week from now McCain-Palin will be at 55 per cent in the polls and Palin will have 25,000 people at every campaign stop she makes.
I think you may be onto something. And then the Obrahma campaign will try to paint her as a Celebrity candidate.
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Intrepid Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:41:53pm |
re: #235 Nevergiveup
Oh I would pay money (maybe even borrow some) to see that! HAH! The Barracuda kicks some libtard Slimes scum.
I'd have to smoke a good stogie after seeing that. (and I'm XX, not XY)
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sagamoregal Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:41:58pm |
O/T but did anyone watch the AK Gov debate from '06 just airred on C-Span? Three very intelligent candidates. Didn't seem like there was that much separating the three candidates on most issues except for the "life" issues. She had to have won on the strength of her personality (or having Todd and Track going around threatening the citizens with a hockey stick up the head if they didn't vote for her ).
The MSM can't say that she was for abortion before she was against it. Seems like she's always been 100% pro life.
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Duane Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:41:58pm |
If only the NY Slimes would spend as much time investigating Obama's Muslim upbringing, his ties to Ayers, ACORN, Rezko et al
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BBev Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:42:40pm |
re: #235 Nevergiveup
What if she punches out the NYT's reporter?
Or hunts then down like a bull moose.
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TheSpartan Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:42:42pm |
Trig is the reincarnation of L. Ron Hubbard?
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A Reasonable Man Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:43:20pm |
Uh Oh.
Andrew Sullivan just posted a long praise of Palin's decision to have Trig, which makes me think he knows a real slimy expose is coming, and he wants to cover himself.
When this slime breaks, he'll go on and on about how much this pains him as evidenced by his recent praise of her decision. What a phony!
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LSD Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:43:25pm |
Another Father? Daughter's Child? Considered Abortion?
Or,
Terrorist Pal - Convicted Felon Funder & Real estate broker - Hamas Donations - Black Supremacist/Liberation Church member - Closet Muslim - Saudi Harvard Benefactor - "Community Organizer" - Cocaine/Pot/Booze User - Drug Dealer - Chicago Political Thug
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Outrider Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:43:46pm |
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Ojoe Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:43:52pm |
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ErnieG Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:43:55pm |
re: #357 Ojoe
They certainly are not well read in history.
It is Elizabeth Tudor's birthday BTW
Ah, yes, and who can fail to recall the epic struggle between the Tudors and the Fordoors?
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n in wi Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:44:18pm |
re: #343 byzantium
perhaps they will reveal that Joe Biden's daughter was arrested for throwing Trig's diaper at police?
Al gore's son confused with what Peyote was, smoked some of Trig's poo
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Bill Amos Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:44:21pm |
I love how the NT Times JUST HAPPENED to have a Palin Family expose ready to go just as Barry's numbers start to tank
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Tigger2005 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:44:29pm |
re: #382 TheSpartan
Trig is the reincarnation of L. Ron Hubbard?
He's a space baby. Sarah had an affair with a Vulcan.
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victor_yugo Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:44:57pm |
re: #372 Sharmuta
I would laugh my ass off if this story is a "they considered an abortion" and then try to smear Sarah for it. Go ahead, nyt! Let that mask of hypocrisy slip just a little bit more. Support a woman's right to choose- unless you can smear her for it, huh? Bring it.
That's exactly the kind of hypocrisy Ann Coulter exposed in the reporting on the Larry Craig fiasco. Gays have more to fear from Democrats than Republicans.
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:45:02pm |
re: #369 MandyManners
If this is an article on her decision, I guarantee you that this angle will be major.
Except that the Palin's do NOT have a lot of extra financial resources. Their combined annual income is less than Michelle Obama's alone and Alaska is very expensive. And they have 4 other children.
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Claire Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:45:09pm |
re: #317 solomonpanting
Are you sure you're looking at it from the right angle?
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Sol Roth Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:46:19pm |
Almost eight years after 9/11, eight years of the MSM shilling for Al-Queda and I'm still shaking my head in amazement at what shitbags the MSM have become.
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:46:27pm |
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ErnieG Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:46:38pm |
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hazzyday Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:46:41pm |
re: #330 looking closely
It remains to be seen how negative this story is.
Its easy to jump to conclusions given the NYT's highly partisan history (I think we all remember that libellous story implying infidelity on McCain's part), but let's see what they write before excoriating it.
Yes this need the 48 hour rule. Who reads the NYT anyway? Their audience exists in the rarefied air of snobbery. USAtoday and WSJ seem to be as impartial papers as I can find. Everything local is in the tank like the NYT.
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livefreeor die Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:46:58pm |
Have to go- but I don't think anyone has said it yet, so I'll leave on this note:
F&*% you, New York Times.
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victor_yugo Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:47:11pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:47:13pm |
re: #57 Sharmuta
Keep pushing it msm- the more you tighten your grasp, the more readers/viewers slip through your fingers.
So the NYT is Grand Moff Tarkin?
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The Other Les Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:47:17pm |
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Ledger1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:47:22pm |
It’s very petty to pick on a baby.
Shouldn’t Obama and his MSM buddies be helping George who lives on a dollar a month?
"No-one knows who I am," he told the magazine, before claiming: "I live here on less than a dollar a month."
"If anyone says something about my surname, I say we are not related. I am ashamed," he said.
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MonkeySon Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:47:27pm |
zombie: re: No. No paper would be that moronic
Well, we are talking about the nyt. :-)
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ciaospirit Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:47:31pm |
Maybe this smear should run on the front NYT. Biden smearing a dead man and the family he left behind.
Since his vice presidential nomination, Joe Biden's 2007 statement that a "guy who allegedly ... drank his lunch" and drove the truck that struck and killed his first wife and daughter has gained national media traction.
Alcohol didn't play a role in the 1972 crash, investigators found. But as recently as last week, the syndicated TV show Inside Edition aired a clip from 2001 of Biden describing the accident to an audience at the University of Delaware and saying the truck driver "stopped to drink instead of drive."
The senator's statements don't jibe with news and law enforcement reports from the time, which cleared driver Curtis C. Dunn, who died in 1999, of wrongdoing.
"To see it coming from [Biden's] mouth, I just burst into tears," Dunn's daughter, Glasgow resident Pamela Hamill, 44, said Wednesday. "My dad was always there for us. Now we feel like we should be there for him because he's not here to defend himself."
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mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:47:40pm |
re: #377 Intrepid
The Barracuda
Sorry but Ann and Nancy Wilson insist that you cease and desist using the name of their song to describe Sarah Palin.
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Kosh's Shadow Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:47:44pm |
re: #235 Nevergiveup
What if she punches out the NYT's reporter?
Leaves moose antler's in the Editor in Chief's bed.
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solomonpanting Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:48:09pm |
re: #394 Claire
Are you sure you're looking at it from the right angle?
I looked at it four times and everything's square.
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Colonel Panik Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:48:33pm |
re: #252 zombie
(Named after comic mouse Topo Gigio.)
We have a really big shoe for you tonight, with Topo Gigio, the danshing Eeeetalian moush!
/Ed Sullivan
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:48:40pm |
re: #399 hazzyday
Yes this need the 48 hour rule. Who reads the NYT anyway? Their audience exists in the rarefied air of snobbery. USAtoday and WSJ seem to be as impartial papers as I can find. Everything local is in the tank like the NYT.
Come again USA Today? You might want to re-think that
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Talking Stick Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:48:48pm |
..but the end justifies the means.. when the cause is worthy...and of course the judge-penitent, high in his rampart, can point his bony finger downward crying, "J'accuse" while absolving himself of any complicity.
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Age Of Freedom Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:49:19pm |
Let's wait and see what develops folks...
Either way, I really believe the MSM is the core reason why the left is so delusional and angry, and has such deep conviction in their distorted view about the world's events.
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Colonel Panik Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:49:33pm |
re: #293 mich-again
I think we're baqrking up the wrong tree with the math reference. Trig is more likely a reference to a part on a rifle.
It's actually short for Trigvye, a Scandinavian name.
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Tigger2005 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:49:38pm |
re: #408 mich-again
Sorry but Ann and Nancy Wilson insist that you cease and desist using the name of their song to describe Sarah Palin.
Barracudas insist that Ann & Nancy quit besmirching their good name by calling their song Barracuda.
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sagamoregal Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:50:13pm |
Trig really doesn't have Down's Syndrome but a disease that's often referred to as "Cat's Syndrome" (don't know the medical term for it)? A good friend's sister had such a baby. Children born with this disease are a little more mainstreamed as older children than children with Down's Syndrome.
I hate the Slimes and really shouldn't care what they're "expose" will be but their "exposes" are talked about for days/weeks and it will take McPalin off their games to have to refute such crap.
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cambronne Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:50:20pm |
I am betting it will be the claim that Sarah Palin thought about aborting the baby because she underwent amniocentesis. What they will be ignoring is the fact that even after she was armed with the knowledge that the baby had down's syndrome, she did not chose abortion.
The focus will be on the allegation that she thought about it rather than she didn't do it.
The NYT clearly doesn't see a difference because it's editors cannot understand her decision.
It is sickening that they even feel that this is an issue worthy of news coverage.
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wong fei hung Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:50:23pm |
re: #383 A Reasonable Man
W. T. F.
Oh goodness, after all Monsieur Sullivan has had to say as of late, what a sudden change of heart.
I'm wagering you are correct.
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:50:26pm |
re: #414 Age Of Freedom
Let's wait and see what develops folks...
Either way, I really believe the MSM is the core reason why the left is so delusional and angry, and has such deep conviction in their distorted view about the world's events.
They also are extremely frustrated they cannot shape public opinion
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The Other Les Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:50:37pm |
re: #408 mich-again
Sorry but Ann and Nancy Wilson insist that you cease and desist using the name of their song to describe Sarah Palin.
Sorry but Ann and Nancy Wilson can basically stuff it for all I care.
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LoFlyer Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:50:40pm |
More info on the Chairman of the NYT. Courtesy portfolio.com
"In addition, an ownership storm is brewing over Sulzberger’s head. A special class of stock has allowed the Sulzbergers to retain control of the company since it went public in the late ’60s, but now shareholders are demanding change. The Times maintains that the share structure is essential to preserving the independence and integrity of its journalists; shareholders claim that the declassification of shares will promote a “culture of accountability.”
—Callen Bair"
What garbage "The Times maintains that the share structure is essential to preserving the independence and integrity of its journalists; shareholders claim that the declassification of shares will promote a “culture of accountability.”"
There has never been any accountability to the class A stockholders and maintaining "journalistic integrity" is a poor joke on the class A stockholders losing money. Typical NYT doublespeak!
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TheSpartan Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:51:03pm |
re: #391 Tigger2005
He's a space baby. Sarah had an affair with a Vulcan.
Does this mean Trig will study the ancient writings of Surak?
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callahan23 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:51:41pm |
re: #320 Idle Drifter
You must understand printing lies about Republican candidates is OK. It’s called “vetting.” (die Sicherheitsüberprüfung) Printing the truth about liberals - that’s called “swift-boating.”
It's from Howie Carr of the BostonHerald
See also my comment #110
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Shug Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:51:55pm |
re: #418 sagamoregal
Trig really doesn't have Down's Syndrome but a disease that's often referred to as "Cat's Syndrome" (don't know the medical term for it)? A good friend's sister had such a baby. Children born with this disease are a little more mainstreamed as older children than children with Down's Syndrome.
I hate the Slimes and really shouldn't care what they're "expose" will be but their "exposes" are talked about for days/weeks and it will take McPalin off their games to have to refute such crap.
are you sure?
Where did you hear this?
Are you referring to cat Eye syndrome?
Cat Eye syndrome is caused from extra chromosomal material on chrosome 22.
Trig looks to me like he has Down syndrome
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So? Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:51:55pm |
Will this campaign ever be about issues and not tushy tissues?
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Colonel Panik Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:52:15pm |
Sarah will have her revenge. Once she becomes Veep, she and McCain will direct the Secretary of the Interior to order all Fish and Game departments nationwide to declare an open season on liberal reporters and editors, with no bag limit.
I predict a busy year for taxidermists.
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solomonpanting Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:52:16pm |
Given his background, any attack upon Palin's baby will be met with a hair-Trigger response.
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Sharmuta Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:52:48pm |
You have to stoop pretty low to pick on the Down syndrome baby of a Vice Presidential candidate. Seriously.
There are three other men in this race, yet the media has gone bat sh*t crazy about this woman. They are sexist pigs. However- I'm reminded of the old saying, "A woman has to do things twice as good as a man to be considered half as good."
Go on msm- continue to expose your biased, sexist asses to the world. Blowback's a bitch.
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cambronne Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:53:23pm |
My daughter was severly handicapped and lived only to the age of 5.
The apparent fact that the NYT is seeking to attack another handicapped child is enraging. I suspect that this is an emotion that will be felt by most people who have handicapped loved ones.
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Age Of Freedom Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:53:24pm |
re: #421 wright1
They also are extremely frustrated they cannot shape public opinion
More than frustrated. They declined an op-ed of McCain with pathetic excuses, while publishing 0bama's leftist mantra. Now talk about tolerance and unbiased journalism.
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victor_yugo Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:53:46pm |
re: #408 mich-again
Sorry but Ann and Nancy Wilson insist that you cease and desist using the name of their song to describe Sarah Palin.
I can talk about The Barracuda all I want. It's an oceanic vertebrate.
And the Wilson sisters should change their collective name to The Carps.
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JustMyView Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:54:05pm |
To reduce the risk of strokes among LGF readers, we could wait to see what the Times publishes. It's not as if sensational headlines on Drudge are unheard of.
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mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:54:05pm |
I had fun with a trufer at a party over the weekend. I am relentless in pressing them to explain the whole theory as I crush each detail and never let up until its obvious to everyone withing earshot that the trufer is a complete idiot. The key is don't let them just throw out the theory to a crowd and spout nonsense. Make them explain it all in detail.
I like to get to the part where I point out that their skull must be full of pancake batter if they think steel needs to melt for a structure to fail.
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galvani Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:54:07pm |
Can you imagine how miffed Bat-Boy is about (temporarily) losing his front page cred?
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lifeofthemind Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:54:20pm |
For crying out loud.
I was thinking of the last scene in Destry Rides Again, sorry I can't find it on Youtube, where Una Merkel leads a mob of angry women into the saloon, like Carrie Nation, and breaks the crooked place up. It would be beautiful if a thousand angry women with nursing babies invaded the New York Times and just shut the place down.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:54:22pm |
re: #428 Colonel Panik
Sarah will have her revenge. Once she becomes Veep, she and McCain will direct the Secretary of the Interior to order all Fish and Game departments nationwide to declare an open season on liberal reporters and editors, with no bag limit.
I predict a busy year for taxidermists.
Unfortunately, lefties aren't animals. They just live like they have no intellect.
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:54:39pm |
re: #431 Sharmuta
You have to stoop pretty low to pick on the Down syndrome baby of a Vice Presidential candidate. Seriously.
There are three other men in this race, yet the media has gone bat sh*t crazy about this woman. They are sexist pigs. However- I'm reminded of the old saying, "A woman has to do things twice as good as a man to be considered half as good."
Go on msm- continue to expose your biased, sexist asses to the world. Blowback's a bitch.
Yep.
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So? Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:55:06pm |
re: #435 victor_yugo
I can talk about The Barracuda all I want. It's an oceanic vertebrate.
And the Wilson sisters should change their collective name to The Carps.
Gifelte & Fish would be better.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:55:07pm |
re: #372 Sharmuta
I would laugh my ass off if this story is a "they considered an abortion" and then try to smear Sarah for it. Go ahead, nyt! Let that mask of hypocrisy slip just a little bit more. Support a woman's right to choose- unless you can smear her for it, huh? Bring it.
A "woman's right to choose" seems, in many cases, to apply to only one choice. Abortion. Other choices are apparently not really "choices".
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Intrepid Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:55:38pm |
re: #295 jemima
It's been demoted.
NYT PREPARES TO FRONT DETAILED STORY ON PALIN'S BABY, NEWSROOM SOURCES TELL DRUDGE...
It was an expose, now it's a story. If we wait long enough they'll admit the truth--it's a fairy tale.
But, as per Barry Obama, "Families are off limits." And "If anyone on my staff does anything like this, they'll be fired". (paraphrased)
So they get their surrogates to do it for them, so they can have plausible deniability.
It's laughable, because their smears in the last week have only caused most Americans to become more interested in her. And they've liked what they've seen.
Bad idea, NYT/Obama campaign - BAD IDEA.
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Tigger2005 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:55:39pm |
re: #418 sagamoregal
Trig really doesn't have Down's Syndrome but a disease that's often referred to as "Cat's Syndrome" (don't know the medical term for it)? A good friend's sister had such a baby. Children born with this disease are a little more mainstreamed as older children than children with Down's Syndrome.
I hate the Slimes and really shouldn't care what they're "expose" will be but their "exposes" are talked about for days/weeks and it will take McPalin off their games to have to refute such crap.
Why refute it? Ignore it and just keep hitting on Obama & Biden.
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CyanSnowHawk Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:55:45pm |
re: #375 galloping granny
Oh sure, DNA testing would tell that. However, that is not the point. The point is that no other candidate for national office at any level has EVER under any circumstances been asked to prove that their children are their own.
To do so in this case is not only a slap at Sarah & Todd Palin, it is a direct slap in the face to the parents of every disabled child in the nation. Worse, it sets a precedent where women will be required to provide this kind of information and smeared as whores if they refuse. I don't see anybody asking Barrak Obama to prove his paternity of his daughters.
We cannot allow this to go unchallenged. If we do, we will all pay in very short order.
I completely agree granny. Every time they start up or even hint at a call for DNA testing, or even any "proof" of Maternity/Paternity, they just embarrass themselves and should be offending all those so called feminists on the left.
I am somewhat curious as to whether DNA testing could actually tell if a child was born of a Mother or Daughter in the same family. Any lizards know anything about that?
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SouthAmericanWay Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:55:47pm |
re: #383 A Reasonable Man
Uh Oh.Andrew Sullivan just posted a long praise of Palin's decision to have Trig, which makes me think he knows a real slimy expose is coming, and he wants to cover himself.
When this slime breaks, he'll go on and on about how much this pains him as evidenced by his recent praise of her decision. What a phony!
His exact text is, for those who do not wish to visit that hellhole,
"In thinking about this astonishing week, and what's to come, I want to go on record again as saying that the decision to bring up a child with Down Syndrome is one of the most noble, beautiful and admirable decisions any person can make. That Sarah Palin is doing that says a huge amount in favor of her. The love obviously being shown toward tiny Trig is also about as profound an advertisement for genuine, pro-life Christianity as you can have. It means that, in this respect, Palin has walked the walk of the pro-life movement - in ways that many others have not. In my view, and I mean this as passionately as I mean my criticisms of her public record, this really is God's work."
This is so full of irony... The persistence on "decision", "decisions", "walked the walk" make me completely certain that they will try to argue that she "considered an abortion". How they will try to prove this is another matter. A doctor would never discuss this (even if only for legal reasons), and a friend who actually knew would never reveal. So they will have to go with anonymous sources or enemies posing as friends.
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mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:55:51pm |
re: #422 The Other Les
Sorry but Ann and Nancy Wilson can basically stuff it for all I care.
Put some whipped cream on it and Ann will eat it.
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zombie Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:55:57pm |
re: #433 cambronne
My daughter was severly handicapped and lived only to the age of 5.
The apparent fact that the NYT is seeking to attack another handicapped child is enraging. I suspect that this is an emotion that will be felt by most people who have handicapped loved ones.
I agree. And a substantial portion of the US population has some relative that is handicapped in some way. That's a lotta votes.
Picking on defenseless babies is the worst imaginable strategy. Picking on handicapped defenseless babies is beneath comprehension.
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LSD Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:56:05pm |
One day a real rain's gonna come and wash all the ink at the NYT's down the drain ...
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:56:08pm |
re: #426 Shug
are you sure?
Where did you hear this?
Are you referring to cat Eye syndrome?
Cat Eye syndrome is caused from extra chromosomal material on chrosome 22.Trig looks to me like he has Down syndrome
And Sarah and Todd have publicly stated that he has Down's. Genetic testing is absolutely definitive in that regard.
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godfrey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:56:40pm |
I hope Todd Palin calls the NYT out for a good old-fashioned ass-kicking.
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hazzyday Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:57:01pm |
re: #412 wright1
Come again USA Today? You might want to re-think that
I've only got 4 papers. SeattleTimes, Seattle PI and USAtoday and WSJ.
But I know what you mean. For general news the USAtoday is about the only options. The Seattle papers are in the tank for the left.
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code red 21 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:57:01pm |
At Gov. Palin's age it's very common for a doctor to suggest that a woman have an anmiocentesis if for no other reason than to cover their ass in case there is something wrong with the baby. How many OBs' are sued, by baby channeling lawyers like Edwards, for not having their patient get the amnio? The baby looks like Todd, that being said, the crazies will say he probably got Willow pregnant. The whole damn thing sounds like a Jerry Springer episode which is what the MSM probably would like to reduce it to. The dirty bastards.
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CyanSnowHawk Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:57:19pm |
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rsrobinson Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:57:36pm |
Drudge has changed "expose" to "detailed story" now.
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devil in baggy pants Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:57:43pm |
re: #46 MandyManners
It would be a bad thing to suggest parents who are pissed off at the NYT to send them used diapers.
Address the packages to the smear artist who wrote the piece.
And the editor.
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Mars Needs Neocons Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:58:06pm |
re: #307 n in wi
Then credit is due to Barrak's grandmother.
Baracks, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, is a functional disability, and shouldn't be related to people with real disabilities.
/It's offensive to put Obambi in with disabled people anyway, as one of them I am strongly offended. We have challenges, he is a challenge.
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Sol Roth Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:58:07pm |
re: #431 Sharmuta
You have to stoop pretty low to pick on the Down syndrome baby of a Vice Presidential candidate. Seriously.
There are three other men in this race, yet the media has gone bat sh*t crazy about this woman. They are sexist pigs. However- I'm reminded of the old saying, "A woman has to do things twice as good as a man to be considered half as good."
Go on msm- continue to expose your biased, sexist asses to the world. Blowback's a bitch.
I think Rathergate demonstrated that media elites will stop at nothing, nothing to subvert the Constitution in the advancement of Collectivism.
I bet there are at least a thousand Lee Harvey Oswalds [a commie] out there waiting to be set off by this most irresponsible form of agitprop.
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ErnieG Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:58:11pm |
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Sharmuta Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:58:20pm |
re: #444 reine.de.tout
A "woman's right to choose" seems, in many cases, to apply to only one choice. Abortion. Other choices are apparently not really "choices".
Yes- and thus it would make it worse if Sarah had considered it and still didn't go with that option. Doesn't she know you can't think about it and still choose life? Who does this woman think she is, anyways?!
/feminazi mode off
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:58:24pm |
re: #444 reine.de.tout
A "woman's right to choose" seems, in many cases, to apply to only one choice. Abortion. Other choices are apparently not really "choices".
It actually has become code for "must have an abortion" over the years.
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The Other Les Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:58:31pm |
re: #407 ciaospirit
Maybe this smear should run on the front NYT. Biden smearing a dead man and the family he left behind.
I suspect that we just blew the vote of practically every trucker in the USA.
(With the exception of an idiot from Wisconsin who was always listening to Air America, I was off that truck in less than 24 hours.)
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kynna Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:58:44pm |
re: #383 A Reasonable Man
Uh Oh.
Andrew Sullivan just posted a long praise of Palin's decision to have Trig, which makes me think he knows a real slimy expose is coming, and he wants to cover himself.
When this slime breaks, he'll go on and on about how much this pains him as evidenced by his recent praise of her decision. What a phony!
I don't know. He's usually pretty straight-forward in his attacks. I haven't seen him try to cover himself that way before. He just ignores the proof that he's wrong and since he's already attacked her, there's no real reason to go back on that if he thinks a real smear is coming up. He'll just use that as proof he was right.
It might be that even his leftist readers have had enough of being made to look foolish and are starting to get the message to him. Kos is trying to rein it in, so maybe Excitable-Andy is too.
In any case, it seems like this might be a story that ostensibly informs about the decision to take a Downs baby to term, but I have no doubt there will be a negative spin somewhere to attack the Palins but with subtlety and nuance.
Let's hope it's good for another 5%.
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:58:45pm |
re: #450 zombie
I agree. And a substantial portion of the US population has some relative that is handicapped in some way. That's a lotta votes.
Picking on defenseless babies is the worst imaginable strategy. Picking on handicapped defenseless babies is beneath comprehension.
This is your new Democratic Party! A Round of Applause for Change we Can Believe in.
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Adina in Judea Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:59:26pm |
Drudge has a new headline above the one that was in this topic title:
NYT: Meet the Baby
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Pawn of the Oppressor Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:59:29pm |
To anybody who finds this kind of thing hard to understand -
Begin with the assumption that Republicans aren't really human. Secondly, adopt as a maxim "the ends justify the means".
Proceeding from there, everything falls into place, and you will see clearly why the left and its media do what they do.
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lifeofthemind Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:59:32pm |
The acid in the wound is that the intelligent alternative in NY is the NY Sun and they are probably going out of business at the end of this month.
If every Lizard got 3 online subscriptions started it might keep them in business.
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TalkinKamel Sun, Sep 7, 2008 5:59:57pm |
#424 The spartan
Just for you, Spartan! [Link: www.jibjab.com...]
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TheSpartan Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:00:32pm |
New headline at Drudge for this story.
"NYT: MEET THE BABY..."
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lifeofthemind Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:00:33pm |
re: #440 Dark_Falcon
Unfortunately, lefties aren't animals. They just live like they have no intellect.
Have you ever seen them eat?
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:00:34pm |
re: #454 hazzyday
I've only got 4 papers. SeattleTimes, Seattle PI and USAtoday and WSJ.
But I know what you mean. For general news the USAtoday is about the only options. The Seattle papers are in the tank for the left.
I feel your pain, next to living next to NYC which I do, only Seattle is worse, for living next to Libs and Kooks
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piglet-u93 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:00:42pm |
re: #388 ErnieG
Ah, yes, and who can fail to recall the epic struggle between the Tudors and the Fordoors?
Just last year my wife and I were struggling between buying a 2 door versus a 4 door. A coincidence?
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looking closely Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:00:54pm |
re: #372 Sharmuta
I would laugh my ass off if this story is a "they considered an abortion" and then try to smear Sarah for it. Go ahead, nyt! Let that mask of hypocrisy slip just a little bit more. Support a woman's right to choose- unless you can smear her for it, huh? Bring it.
If you support someone's right to choose, ipso facto, you are supporting their right to choose NOT to abort a baby.
Considering that Palin clearly has the means, resources, ability, and desire to care for this child with Down syndrome, implying she "should" have aborted it is tantamount to promoting infanticide.
It remains to be seen whether or not Trig Palin is a "drain" on society (there are numerous individuals with Down syndrome who support themselves fully as adults), but with some sense of irony, its a bit hypocritical for Dem partisans to point disapproving fingers at individuals who rely on gov't entitlements to support themselves!
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looking closely Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:01:28pm |
re: #440 Dark_Falcon
Unfortunately, lefties aren't animals. They just live like they have no intellect.
Sure they are, but taxonomically, they're invertebrates.
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wong fei hung Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:01:38pm |
Drudge Headline:
NYT: Meet the baby...
What it should say:
NYT: Babies are meat...
-WFH
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:01:42pm |
re: #468 Adina in Judea
Drudge has a new headline above the one that was in this topic title:
NYT: Meet the Baby
Does that headline refer to Obambi?
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Sol Roth Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:02:32pm |
re: #469 Pawn of the Oppressor
To anybody who finds this kind of thing hard to understand -
Begin with the assumption that Republicans aren't really human. Secondly, adopt as a maxim "the ends justify the means".
Proceeding from there, everything falls into place, and you will see clearly why the left and its media do what they do.
I'd be happy to meet them on the battlefield with that in mind. Happy.
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ciaospirit Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:02:35pm |
re: #464 The Other Les
I suspect that we just blew the vote of practically every trucker in the USA.
(With the exception of an idiot from Wisconsin who was always listening to Air America, I was off that truck in less than 24 hours.)
The trucker was completely cleared of any wrongdoing and Biden, trying to elicit sympathy political points, keeps alleging the trucker was drunk. What a scumbag. I hope every trucker hears this story.
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So? Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:02:45pm |
Drudge can be a real a-hole himself sometimes...his page has become more like the National Enquirer over the past couple of years. Yes, ad hit revenue makes you tailor your news (links) and laugh all the way to the Cayman Islands to stash your cash.
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LoFlyer Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:02:57pm |
re: #436 JustMyView
To reduce the risk of strokes among LGF readers, we could wait to see what the Times publishes. It's not as if sensational headlines on Drudge are unheard of.
Since when has the NYT published anything favorable on conservative candidates. This will be a standard attack piece by NYT. You know it, I know it and the NYT knows it.
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lifeofthemind Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:03:29pm |
My idea was serious and practical. Men can't be part of it. Women should occupy the NYT headquarters en mass.
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Outrider Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:03:52pm |
re: #409 Kosh's Shadow
Leaves moose antler's in the Editor in Chief's bed.
Better idea would be to leave the editors hea......er.. uh...antlers in the moose's bed.
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looking closely Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:04:17pm |
re: #482 ciaospirit
The trucker was completely cleared of any wrongdoing and Biden, trying to elicit sympathy political points, keeps alleging the trucker was drunk. What a scumbag. I hope every trucker hears this story.
Biden has a history of. . .well. . .making s**t up about himself.
This goes right to character, and its relevant here, just as his plagiarism was relevant last time around.
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The Other Les Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:04:26pm |
re: #482 ciaospirit
The trucker was completely cleared of any wrongdoing and Biden, trying to elicit sympathy political points, keeps alleging the trucker was drunk. What a scumbag. I hope every trucker hears this story.
PIMF! we = he (Biden)
Sorry.
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victor_yugo Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:04:28pm |
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David IV of Georgia Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:04:47pm |
I guess if Down's Syndrome is caused by a mother's neglect, then all the mothers with identical twins are equally neglectful. Let's investigate the lot of them.
Are they not going to shut up about who birthed who in the Palin family until everyone gets DNA tests done?
Besides a small core group who thinks this is a wonderful and legitimate axe to grind, most everyone else is going to thing this a bizarre invasion of the family's privacy. No doubt these are the same people who yelled loudest about keeping the government out of their bedroom. I think it will backfire. If they get so annoying that DNA tests are actually done, it will blow up in their faces. This is a lose-lose for them. Are they really so stupid they think this has merit?
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hazzyday Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:04:56pm |
Down syndrome, Down's syndrome, or trisomy 21 is a chromosomal disorder caused by the presence of all or part of an extra 21st chromosome. It is named after John Langdon Down, the British doctor who described the syndrome in 1866. The disorder was identified as a chromosome 21 trisomy by Jérôme Lejeune in 1959. The condition is characterized by a combination of major and minor differences in structure. Often Down syndrome is associated with some impairment of cognitive ability and physical growth as well as facial appearance. Down syndrome can be identified during pregnancy or at birth.
Early childhood intervention, screening for common problems, medical treatment where indicated, a conducive family environment, and vocational training can improve the overall development of children with Down syndrome. Although some of the physical genetic limitations of Down syndrome cannot be overcome, education and proper care will improve quality of life.[
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reine.de.tout Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:05:27pm |
re: #406 ploome hineni
didyou read ACE?
I checked it out.
And lookie here, from Vanity Fair., complete with a poll where you can vote as to who you think the mama is.
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jaunte Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:05:31pm |
re: #487 looking closely
Biden's lies begin right at the top of his head.
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TalkinKamel Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:05:38pm |
re: #476 looking closely
Let's face it---the Left, despite all its vaunted compassion, really despises the handicapped, and anyone it considers a "drain" on society (i.e., "Anybody who'se gonna get government tax money that by rights oughta go ta ME!")
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Sharmuta Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:05:55pm |
Meet the Baby? He's 5 months old- what is there to know?
He eats, sleeps, poops, burps, spits-up, farts, coos and blinks.
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TheSpartan Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:06:17pm |
re: #471 TalkinKamel
#424 The spartan
Just for you, Spartan! [Link: www.jibjab.com...]
Most illogical indeed; the medias new course.
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Age Of Freedom Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:06:22pm |
Considering their [NYT] bias, there's no doubt - if this project's truly brewing - that this report will totally hurt 0bama. It'll expose the media once more as being leftist, hypocritical and biased. Just like they declined McCain's op-ed as oppose to 0bama's.
I rigged up a cup holder and a bowl for popcorn just to be comfy to munch and sip on hard once the sh!t hits the iranian centrifuge.
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JustMyView Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:06:27pm |
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CyanSnowHawk Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:06:31pm |
re: #455 code red 21
At Gov. Palin's age it's very common for a doctor to suggest that a woman have an anmiocentesis if for no other reason than to cover their ass in case there is something wrong with the baby. How many OBs' are sued, by baby channeling lawyers like Edwards, for not having their patient get the amnio? The baby looks like Todd, that being said, the crazies will say he probably got Willow pregnant. The whole damn thing sounds like a Jerry Springer episode which is what the MSM probably would like to reduce it to. The dirty bastards.
Mrs. Hawk, who I knocked up at the age of 39 was immediately a high-risk pregnancy and amnio is a standard procedure for high-risk pregnancies.
She tells me I did that do distract her from her 40th.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:07:27pm |
re: #473 lifeofthemind
Have you ever seen them eat?
Yes, I have. Most of them eat the same way as you and me. All the liberals I've known have eaten normally.
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MandyManners Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:08:31pm |
re: #492 reine.de.tout
I checked it out.
And lookie here, from Vanity Fair., complete with a poll where you can vote as to who you think the mama is.
Thirty-three per cent think it's Sarah Palin. Good grief.
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Dr. Shalit Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:08:41pm |
OK Everyone -
If this is a HIT PIECE - here is the "Strategery" - After the Election - SUE! - win or lose! Trigg Palin is NOT covered by the NY Times v. Sullivan doctrine. Settle the case, and walk into the NYT Building in NYC. Walk right up to "Pinch" Sulzberger's office, walk in, extend your hand Sarah, and repeat after me -
"HOWDY PARTNER!"
-S-
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Alouette Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:08:55pm |
re: #119 schlagerman
My daughter was born the same day as Trig Palin. I cannot imagine the anger of Sarah if this is true. Had my 4 month old daughter been used by the NYT in an attempt to score political points, there would be an editor sans testicles, and those testicles would be shoved so far up his ass that his doctor would mistake them for tonsils during his next physical. Is there no depth to which they will not sink? I'll be singing a happy tune the day I hear the NYT is bankrupt.
Who at the New York Times has testicles? Maureen Dowd, maybe?
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SteveRogers Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:09:14pm |
The NY Slimes. Despicable and depraved scum!
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The Other Les Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:09:39pm |
re: #494 TalkinKamel
Let's face it---the Left, despite all its vaunted compassion, really despises the handicapped, and anyone it considers a "drain" on society (i.e., "Anybody who'se gonna get government tax money that by rights oughta go ta ME!")
Eugenics used to be an integral part of Progressive doctrine until 1945 when it was discovered that a certain discredited Progressive party in europe was actually practicing it.
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LoFlyer Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:09:42pm |
re: #494 TalkinKamel
Let's face it---the Left, despite all its vaunted compassion, really despises the handicapped, and anyone it considers a "drain" on society (i.e., "Anybody who'se gonna get government tax money that by rights oughta go ta ME!")
Yep, I look at all the unused wheelchair ramps at various government facilities and wonder just how much money has been wasted over the years providing disabled access to each and everyone of our facilities.
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Karridine Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:09:53pm |
IF (Updated)
If you can get ahead when all about you
Are losing their jobs and blaming you,
If you can trust yourself when people doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't vote Democrat,
Or being hated, don't give way to Dem talking points,
And yet don't look too good, nor smoke Dem joints:
If you can dream--and not make dreamy thigh-master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts a game;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And make those two impostors just lame;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, 'God-damned!',
And stoop and build 'em up with time-tested tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of the market,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your pocket;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"
If you can talk with crowds and keep human virtue,
Or walk with 'stars' --nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Heaven and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!
--Lanyard Tippling, circa 1947: "Booze Cruise Lyrics"
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David IV of Georgia Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:10:05pm |
re: #497 Age Of Freedom
Considering their [NYT] bias, there's no doubt - if this project's truly brewing - that this report will totally hurt 0bama. It'll expose the media once more as being leftist, hypocritical and biased. Just like they declined McCain's op-ed as oppose to 0bama's.
I rigged up a cup holder and a bowl for popcorn just to be comfy to munch and sip on hard once the sh!t hits the iranian centrifuge.
You don't want to run that through a centrifuge—the centrifuge will separate out all the pure evil and that's a bad thing.
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:10:37pm |
re: #490 David IV of Georgia
I guess if Down's Syndrome is caused by a mother's neglect, then all the mothers with identical twins are equally neglectful. Let's investigate the lot of them.
Are they not going to shut up about who birthed who in the Palin family until everyone gets DNA tests done?
Besides a small core group who thinks this is a wonderful and legitimate axe to grind, most everyone else is going to thing this a bizarre invasion of the family's privacy. No doubt these are the same people who yelled loudest about keeping the government out of their bedroom. I think it will backfire. If they get so annoying that DNA tests are actually done, it will blow up in their faces. This is a lose-lose for them. Are they really so stupid they think this has merit?
The DNA tests have already been done long since - that is part of the testing for Down's. Every patient's rights group and privacy group in the country should be up in arms at the very idea of releasing that information.
We expect candidates to release their medical records - though Obama got away with a doctor's note. The DNA testing is TRIG'S medical record and he is a minor child. Nobody has the right to it. Including - and most especially - the media.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:10:38pm |
re: #503 MandyManners
Thirty-three per cent think it's Sarah Palin. Good grief.
which means 67% think it's Bristol. Double good grief.
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Opilio Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:11:03pm |
re: #454 hazzyday
Charles has now added to LGF the ability to change an up-ding to a down-ding, or vice versa. So, hypothetically, if someone accidentally up-dinged a comment that was down-dinged by 462 other lizards, that someone could change their vote and join the herd, if that someone was so inclined... hypothetically.
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Mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:11:07pm |
re: #407 ciaospirit
Wow. What an ass Joe Biden is smearing that man. His family should pursue a defamation suit.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:11:19pm |
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:12:02pm |
re: #508 The Other Les
Eugenics used to be an integral part of Progressive doctrine until 1945 when it was discovered that a certain discredited Progressive party in europe was actually practicing it.
Eugenics continued to be practiced in Alabama well into the 60's. Forced sterilization.
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godfrey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:12:25pm |
LGF slow for anyone else?
ploome
What's for dinner?
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Mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:12:58pm |
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piglet-u93 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:12:59pm |
re: #477 buzzsawmonkey
Remember that the Times magazine published an article a year or two ago about a young career-woman type who became pregnant with twins--or was it triplets?--and had all but one aborted so that she "wouldn't have to move to Staten Island."
She and the Times both were genuinely surprised at the overwhelmingly negative response the article received.
Makes me wonder what the surviving child will think of his mother when he/she grows up and eventually finds out about it?
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:13:24pm |
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The Other Les Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:13:36pm |
re: #520 galloping granny
Eugenics continued to be practiced in Alabama well into the 60's. Forced sterilization.
And which party was dominant in Alabama at the time?
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ErnieG Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:14:10pm |
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HelloDare Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:14:19pm |
According to an anonymous nurse, baby Trig was born with horns and a tail. Another unnamed medical worker said that the delivery room smelled strongly of sulfur. It could not be confirmed that a Candy Striper heard a deep base voice bellow, "I am the spawn of Rove," around the time of the delivery. ///////
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Dr. Shalit Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:14:38pm |
re: #514 reine.de.tout
which means 67% think it's Bristol. Double good grief.
queenie -
Biologically impossible if Bristol is 5mo. pregnant. Then again, science goes out the window if you have "PDS.'
-S-
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TalkinKamel Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:14:44pm |
Okay, if Vanity Fair's running a contest, here's my vote for who the baby's real mother is! [Link: www.freakingnews.com...]
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Mars Needs Neocons Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:14:51pm |
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Mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:14:52pm |
re: #524 galloping granny
No - welfare mothers were required to be sterilized.
We have the opposite system in place now. We subsidize it. And you ALWAYS get more of whatever you subsidize.
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Age Of Freedom Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:15:15pm |
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victor_yugo Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:15:22pm |
re: #515 Opilio
Charles' reply is most excellent.
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Dr. Shalit Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:15:46pm |
re: #522 Mich-again
How dey do dat? Chop Chop?
"Mich" -
More like "snip-snip" - and - more or less you got the idea.
-S-
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Alouette Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:16:11pm |
re: #510 buzzsawmonkey
But those are encased in a Lucite paperweight, are they not?
Nah, Steuben glass.
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godfrey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:16:11pm |
So enough about NYT editorial board psychodrama. What's up with the $100B Fed bailout of Fannie and Fred?
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rsrobinson Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:16:20pm |
So it's gone from an expose to a puff piece?
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David IV of Georgia Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:16:24pm |
re: #513 galloping granny
I was referring to testing the parents to determine if they are indeed the parents. If they knew the baby had Down's before birth, then of course the baby had already been tested. Beyond some fluff publicity to convince gullible fluff voters, this will end up hurting Palin's opponents, not her. This opens them up to many avenues of attack. Are they just stupid? She's teflon—it won't stick.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:16:32pm |
re: #521 godfrey
LGF slow for anyone else?
ploome
What's for dinner?
Hello, Godfrey!
Yes, it's slow for me, too. Sometimes I have to "x" out and start afresh in a new tab.
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:16:37pm |
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Mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:17:21pm |
re: #538 godfrey
What's up with the $100B Fed bailout of Fannie and Fred?
Its what eventually always happens when the banks get to gamble with house chips.
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callahan23 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:17:44pm |
re: #492 reine.de.tout
Just like the NYT, Vanity Fair is vile and from now on considered to be serious scum for me!
I don't mean it at all sarcastically. To cover such a conspiracy and then have the readers vote on that topic is the lowest.
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Dasher Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:17:51pm |
It seems the MSM is nothing more than the conduit for left wing blogs.
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:18:15pm |
There is a report on NewsMax that Barry is meeting with WJC for lunch. If you needed more evidence he is worried, there you have it. I am sure Clinton will say, "so you claim I was a rascist eh."
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Mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:19:30pm |
re: #546 wright1
There is a report on NewsMax that Barry is meeting with WJC for lunch. If you needed more evidence he is worried, there you have it. I am sure Clinton will say, "so you claim I was a rascist eh."
I think Bill is going to try to cut a deal. Promise Hillary a spot on the Supreme Court and I might think about helping you win.
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TalkinKamel Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:20:04pm |
re: #509 LoFlyer
Unused wheel chair ramps and the like cannot be taken as an expression of the left's love for the handicapped. (An expression of wanting to be annoying to society in general, yes.)
Try actually working with, and talking to, some of those in so-called "caring" industries, and your liberal friends, if you have an autistic, down-syndrome or otherwise disabled kid, and you'll soon find out exactly what they really think.
(Yes, Les, eugenics was a progressive movement; the left/progressives have always had a tendency to see the disabled as drags on the rest society---"They're using up government money!"---and longed to eliminate them. Weirdly enough, this attitude never extends to the truly parasitical, such as, *cough, cough*, certainly Middle-Eastern groups and their leaders, who foment terrorism; in their case, the Left can't give them enough taxpayer dollars!)
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:20:12pm |
Now Drudge is calling the article "Meet the baby." Maybe not a hit piece after all. But it will probably have some Kerry styled nuance.
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:20:14pm |
re: #540 David IV of Georgia
I was referring to testing the parents to determine if they are indeed the parents. If they knew the baby had Down's before birth, then of course the baby had already been tested. Beyond some fluff publicity to convince gullible fluff voters, this will end up hurting Palin's opponents, not her. This opens them up to many avenues of attack. Are they just stupid? She's teflon—it won't stick.
And I am telling you that the determination of parentage is part of the genetic testing done to determine Down's. All done. All over.
And in every state in the country, the DNA test results of a child's parentage are not public information even in a custody suit.
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Truck Monkey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:20:51pm |
Now I know where I've seen Saracudahs glasses before.
[Link: www.backtobasicstoys.com...]
I like her even more now!
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Kosh's Shadow Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:21:24pm |
re: #495 Sharmuta
Meet the Baby? He's 5 months old- what is there to know?
He eats, sleeps, poops, burps, spits-up, farts, coos and blinks.
Sounds like he could post on Kos.
But he's probably already smarter than most of the Kos-kiddies.
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Dr. Shalit Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:21:37pm |
re: #546 wright1
There is a report on NewsMax that Barry is meeting with WJC for lunch. If you needed more evidence he is worried, there you have it. I am sure Clinton will say, "so you claim I was a rascist eh."
"w1" -
Does the word OOPS! mean something to all 'y'all?
-S-
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Sunlight Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:21:49pm |
Just got off the phone with someone in Charles's neck of the woods. In the high tech field. If they get any news, it's the LA Times or their friends. They've never heard of Bill Ayers and they still format the election as about Bush and nothing else. I'm glad for LGF and PJTV, etc., but the MSM is still running the message this cycle. It's good that the press subscriptions are going down, but it won't be until '12 or '16 that a real dent will be made in the MSM's wall of lies. Hopefully, the damage will not do us in.
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LoFlyer Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:21:56pm |
OT, Atlanta area lizards we are discussing having a "meet" at Manuals Tavern on North Avenue and North Highland drive. Manuals is a well known for its political debates as all three of the brothers were active Democrats, and I worked for Manual many years ago when he was county CEO. (God rest his soul). We are thinking either Friday night or Sunday afternoon. Email me if you are interested, my Nic is blue!
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jaunte Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:22:25pm |
Watching the annefrance negative ratings dive reminds me of a submarine movie. The Tiefenmesser should shatter below -470.
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lifeofthemind Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:22:34pm |
re: #495 Sharmuta
Meet the Baby? He's 5 months old- what is there to know?
He eats, sleeps, poops, burps, spits-up, farts, coos and blinks.
Don't all men? What more do women want from me?
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Sol Roth Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:22:53pm |
re: #546 wright1
There is a report on NewsMax that Barry is meeting with WJC for lunch. If you needed more evidence he is worried, there you have it. I am sure Clinton will say, "so you claim I was a rascist eh."
Don't wear a blue dress, Barry!
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:23:06pm |
re: #547 Mich-again
But first you tell them that "I am the first black President."
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David IV of Georgia Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:23:12pm |
re: #550 galloping granny
I didn't realize that the parents were also tested. If that's the case, then calling them stupid is far too charitable. Of course, my sense of ethics won't allow me to publicly call them what they deserve.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:23:26pm |
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Mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:23:42pm |
re: #557 jaunte
Watching the annefrance negative ratings dive reminds me of a submarine movie. The Tiefenmesser should shatter below -470.
Wow. Absolute zero is only -460.
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lifeofthemind Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:23:58pm |
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Dr. Shalit Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:24:08pm |
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Lab Rat Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:24:19pm |
Am I right in reading this story (towards the bottom of the article) that tomorrow's USA Today/Gallup poll will show McCain up 54%-44%?!?!?!?!
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]
Woot!
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spidly Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:24:29pm |
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Mars Needs Neocons Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:24:58pm |
re: #515 Opilio
Charles has now added to LGF the ability to change an up-ding to a down-ding, or vice versa. So, hypothetically, if someone accidentally up-dinged a comment that was down-dinged by 462 other lizards, that someone could change their vote and join the herd, if that someone was so inclined... hypothetically.
I wish I could vote some more. I'd love to see assfrance become the first -1000 poster.
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David IV of Georgia Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:25:13pm |
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FightingBack Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:25:41pm |
I got it.
"Palin Leaves Infant with Sitter While She Works."
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Josephine Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:25:42pm |
re: #433 cambronne
I'm sorry about your daughter. She was so young.
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wright1 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:25:47pm |
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ErnieG Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:26:43pm |
I just went to the New York Times on the web. There's nothing on this story, but if you have a strong stomach and some eye bleach, you might want to see what the metrosexuals are wearing this season.
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njslim Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:26:43pm |
Sulzberger is sometimes referred to by the nickname "Pinch", a variation on his father's nickname "Punch", but dislikes the name."
Maybe should give him new name - How about "punk" ?
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victor_yugo Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:27:01pm |
re: #542 galloping granny
All governors of Alabama between 1874 and 1987 were Democrats.
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Little Boomer Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:27:08pm |
Meet the Baby?!? ...Can it be even the NYT is under the spell of the fair Sarah?
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tilly Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:27:47pm |
I don’t know if anyone posted this because I have not read all 500+ posts in this thread but y'all do know a small article appeared in the Financial Times of London last week stating that Rupert Murdock was crunching the numbers and looking to make an offer to the stockholders of the times that would likely force a sale....
It was suggested that those on staff there better update their résumés because it was soon going to be checkout time!
The bet is on that if it goes through how many will exit before being given their pink slip by Murdock Inc......lmfao
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:27:51pm |
re: #562 David IV of Georgia
I didn't realize that the parents were also tested. If that's the case, then calling them stupid is far too charitable. Of course, my sense of ethics won't allow me to publicly call them what they deserve.
Normally a whole genetic profile is done rather than just a simple test to look for the Down's marker - just in case that one of the other nasty-awfuls is present.
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Noam Sayin' Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:27:57pm |
re: #551 Truck Monkey
Kawasaki 704, actually. There seems to be a buzz about them. Put a link in the spinoffs.
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Billy Hank Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:28:03pm |
Looks like Palin is going to get the Abu Grahib treatment. At least one negative, exaggerated fabulist story on the front page for the next 60 days. They'll really hit abortion, creationism, corruption. Hyper vigilance required for Clintonian parsing.
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Mars Needs Neocons Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:28:04pm |
re: #541 reine.de.tout
Hello, Godfrey!
Yes, it's slow for me, too. Sometimes I have to "x" out and start afresh in a new tab.
Me too, it's been like this since the convention.
/Obviously Palin broke the internet.
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David IV of Georgia Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:28:10pm |
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LesLein Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:28:37pm |
This link reveals the MSM's priorities.
I see one after another of the mainstream media outlets which have made important contributions to the factual underpinnings of the counter-terrorism effort dropping off that beat. Editors in the print media are shifting terrorism experts on their staffs towards investigations of political candidates. At least three such reporters at three major papers are now chasing Sarah Palin stories (I haven't had time to chase down everybody in "the business").
[Link: counterterrorismblog.org...]
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galloping granny Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:28:44pm |
re: #577 victor_yugo
All governors of Alabama between 1874 and 1987 were Democrats.
I knew that. Which is why I asked if you really had to ask :)
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Sol Roth Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:28:54pm |
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Mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:29:14pm |
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ciaospirit Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:29:18pm |
re: #578 Little Boomer
Meet the Baby?!? ...Can it be even the NYT is under the spell of the fair Sarah?
I still think a baby should be off limits, positive or not.
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David IV of Georgia Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:30:27pm |
re: #589 Mich-again
I have a degree in physics—I was just being silly.
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Mars Needs Neocons Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:31:02pm |
re: #548 TalkinKamel
Unused wheel chair ramps and the like cannot be taken as an expression of the left's love for the handicapped. (An expression of wanting to be annoying to society in general, yes.)
Try actually working with, and talking to, some of those in so-called "caring" industries, and your liberal friends, if you have an autistic, down-syndrome or otherwise disabled kid, and you'll soon find out exactly what they really think.
(Yes, Les, eugenics was a progressive movement; the left/progressives have always had a tendency to see the disabled as drags on the rest society---"They're using up government money!"---and longed to eliminate them. Weirdly enough, this attitude never extends to the truly parasitical, such as, *cough, cough*, certainly Middle-Eastern groups and their leaders, who foment terrorism; in their case, the Left can't give them enough taxpayer dollars!)
I have been in one of those industries. I've also told everyone the kind of things I've heard. But, most of the people I've met in this kind of industry are honestly caring, decent people. I've even found that with extreme libs.
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:32:01pm |
First we don't know what the expose is.
It could be something that she had no conclusive test that it was downs --only a possibility.
I don't think the baby should have been an issue at all.
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Shug Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:32:01pm |
re: #550 galloping granny
And I am telling you that the determination of parentage is part of the genetic testing done to determine Down's. All done. All over.
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I disagree
genetic counciling is recommended in younger parents to determine the presence of a balanced translocation. ( to predict recurrance risk ) Even in this test, the markers to establish paternity would not be done since that would not be an issue and is not cost effective. Paternity is completely seperate
in a 44 year old woman with 4 previously healthy children, a confirmatory basic karyotype would be done on the baby since the etiology is certain to be maternal nondisjunction
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callahan23 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:32:20pm |
re: #575 ErnieG
I just went to the New York Times on the web. There's nothing on this story, but if you have a strong stomach and some eye bleach, you might want to see what the metrosexuals are wearing this season.
Ehw, retch were was my bucket again?
I know I have been warned.
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Mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:32:37pm |
re: #592 David IV of Georgia
I have a degree in physics—I was just being silly.
Then I'm guessing like me, you have a melon full of scientific trivia like that.
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jwb7605 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:33:24pm |
re: #129 Who Watches the Watchmen?
Will Drudge put up the flashing light when it's published?
I've been reading this, and have to agree with the slime factor.
My predictions:
Now that the headlines are "leaked",
The Obama campaign will decry the story.
The Times will withdraw the article.
The Obama campaign will buy a lot of advertising from the NYT.
Obama gets to be a hero,
The Times gets to "do the right thing".
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SummerSong Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:33:25pm |
re: #490 David IV of Georgia
It doesn't matter, to them, what is true. Put the lie out there, it does it's damage, later clarifications don't matter much. The damage is done.
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njslim Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:34:15pm |
re: #579 tilly
I don’t know if anyone posted this because I have not read all 500+ posts in this thread but y'all do know a small article appeared in the Financial Times of London last week stating that Rupert Murdock was crunching the numbers and looking to make an offer to the stockholders of the times that would likely force a sale....
It was suggested that those on staff there better update their résumés because it was soon going to be checkout time!
The bet is on that if it goes through how many will exit before being given their pink slip by Murdock Inc......lmfao
Problem is there are several classes of stock at NYT - way it is structured keeps control in hands of Sulzberger. Don't know if
Murdock can gain control .
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Mich-again Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:34:17pm |
re: #575 ErnieG
I just went to the New York Times on the web. There's nothing on this story, but if you have a strong stomach and some eye bleach, you might want to see what the metrosexuals are wearing this season.
If anyone ever sees me wearing clothes like that, please put me out of my misery.
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CyanSnowHawk Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:34:29pm |
re: #577 victor_yugo
All governors of Alabama between 1874 and 1987 were Democrats.
They really soured on the Republicans after Lincoln, didn't they?
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Kosh's Shadow Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:34:43pm |
re: #554 Sunlight
Just got off the phone with someone in Charles's neck of the woods. In the high tech field. If they get any news, it's the LA Times or their friends. They've never heard of Bill Ayers and they still format the election as about Bush and nothing else. I'm glad for LGF and PJTV, etc., but the MSM is still running the message this cycle. It's good that the press subscriptions are going down, but it won't be until '12 or '16 that a real dent will be made in the MSM's wall of lies. Hopefully, the damage will not do us in.
The great thing is, most voters know 0bama's running against McCain, not Bush, and it just makes the MSM look stupid.
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Josephine Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:34:52pm |
re: #492 reine.de.tout
Wow, that Vanity Fair piece is disgusting.
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Opilio Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:35:53pm |
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David IV of Georgia Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:35:58pm |
re: #598 Mich-again
Then I'm guessing like me, you have a melon full of scientific trivia like that.
It's just an A.A. degree—I went on to other disciplines. I think Obama's thoughts could be harnessed to actually get temperatures in the negative Kelvin range.
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Typicalwhitey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:36:50pm |
In the new poll, taken Friday through Sunday, McCain leads Obama by 54%-44% among those seen as most likely to vote. The survey of 1,022 adults, including 959 registered voters, has a margin of error of +/— 3 points for both samples
McCain leads Democrat Barack Obama by 50%-46% among registered voters, the Republican's biggest advantage since January and a turnaround from the USA TODAY poll taken just before the convention opened in St. Paul. Then, he lagged by 7 percentage points.
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]
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OldLineTexan Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:36:58pm |
re: #604 Mich-again
If anyone ever sees me wearing clothes like that, please put me out of my misery.
If anybody ever shoots me and dresses my corpse like that, I will haunt the hell outta him or her (or it).
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David IV of Georgia Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:37:11pm |
re: #609 Opilio
−459.67 °F.
−273.15 °C.
0 K. (not °K)
Next you'll correct me when I talk about how many knots per hour I was going...
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aaron01 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:37:53pm |
Just saw this on Drudge:
MSNBC drops Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews from anchor chair... David Gregory will anchor news coverage of the coming debates and election night.... Developing...
Not sure if that means they are gone gone, or just won't be covering anything election related?
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formercorpsman Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:38:55pm |
re: #575 ErnieG
I took the bait Ernie.
IIRC, the headline of the article was men's fashion.
Sure.
Candy ass fashion.
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:38:58pm |
Reading this thread and watching the brilliant move United 93 at the same time is really difficult.
It's a good thing that I saw in in the theater first...
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Arbalest Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:40:19pm |
What are the chances that the NYT will publish a "Minor Children are Out of Bounds / There Was Clearly Never Anything Here / We're Sorry / We Won't Do This Anymore" headline and story?
I think that even the National Enquirer sees that there's nothing here, never was, and it's wrong to do what they've done.
The entire "Scrutinize Gov. Palin's Family" effort of the last few days has put several torpedoes in to the SS Obama. My guess is that the DNC has issued frantic orders, and the attacks will mysteriously stop by late tonight.
There's only 60 days left to repair the damage, and odds are more problems for Obama will be revealed by the UI-Chicago papers and more investigation. Then there are the debates. Obama seems to do poorly when rattled or without a teleprompter; add these together and add many manufactured problems and outraged opponents and voters ...
US Weekly is begging people to not cancel subscriptions. The NYT is already sinking; do they have any subscribers left? How's life in the Sulzberger Bunker?
What does Andrew Sullivan write?
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Opilio Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:40:51pm |
re: #613 David IV of Georgia
Next you'll correct me when I talk about how many knots per hour I was going...
Stick with furlongs per fortnight and you'll never go wrong.
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lifeofthemind Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:41:02pm |
re: #588 Opilio
Gallup's own site says McCain by 3, 48-45.
Obama runs on inertia and image, he must conquer because he has. It proves that God favors him. It is like the argument for the expansion of Islam. Improbable prior success demands future validation.
Once the momentum stops the check books will snap shut, Hollywood and Chicago share one iron rule, Don't Back No Losers. He could deflate with incredible speed.
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godfrey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:41:05pm |
re: #616 ploome hineni
From the article:
Where the masculine ideal of as recently as 2000 was a buff 6-footer with six-pack abs, the man of the moment is an urchin, a wraith or an underfed runt.
How'd that slip by the ed board?
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Truck Monkey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:42:08pm |
re: #581 Noam Sayin'
Kawasaki 704, actually. There seems to be a buzz about them. Put a link in the spinoffs.
Come again? I guess that I don't REALLY know about spinoffs and the like. Where could I find it?
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tilly Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:42:29pm |
re: #603 njslim
Problem is there are several classes of stock at NYT - way it is structured keeps control in hands of Sulzberger. Don't know if
Murdock can gain control .
It was implied in the article that their holdings are so devalued from the loss of circulation the Sulzberger's would probably consider selling for the first time.
I realize they have different classes but I am not positive they could hold on if all the stockholders holding A class stock sell out and it is just the family looking at Murdock.
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godfrey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:43:19pm |
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mrcaniac Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:44:14pm |
If this is the daddy, McCain/Palin win.
He's picked the last few winners in the Presidential sweeps!
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Biff Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:44:31pm |
USAToday releases Monday's Gallup Tracking Poll -
McCain Palin 50
Obama Biden 46
A 12% point swing in 6 days (McCain up 8, Obama down 4). McCain Palin pick up 4% from Obama, and 4% from undecided/other.
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sparrowlake Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:44:33pm |
re: #520 galloping granny
Eugenics continued to be practiced in Alabama well into the 60's. Forced sterilization.
Forced sterilization of sex offenders is not a tool of eugenics, but rather is intended to reduce or eliminate the chances of the offender reoffending or impregnating a future victim.
And individual reproductive choices, freely made, may or may not be immoral - but they are not applications of state-imposed eugenics.
Those who receive pre-natal test results which tell them with certainty that the child will be born with a terrible disease, have a personal choice to make. Palin made her choice to have the baby and that was her right. Even if she had chosen to abort the fetus that too would have been her choice but it would not have been forced on her by the state and so could not fairly be conflated with State actions like the holocaust or forced sterilization.
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callahan23 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:44:48pm |
re: #620 Arbalest
The entire "Scrutinize Gov. Palin's Family" effort of the last few days has put several torpedoes in to the SS Obama.
I think the torpedoes have already cracked the keel of the SS 0bama if you think of the latest USA Today/Gallup poll.
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spidly Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:44:59pm |
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formercorpsman Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:45:18pm |
re: #616 ploome hineni
You know ploome, I truly think the sycophants of the fashion circles gravitate towards the emaciated look of both sexes because there is so much drug usage within that camp.
Seriously.
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Truck Monkey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:45:20pm |
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yesandno Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:45:31pm |
Don't know about you guys, but I got a tingle going down both legs....
Seems like MSNBC is replacing Matthews and Olberman from anchoring the rest of the campaigns.... Gregory (the other part of the triangle of idiots) will be the guy.
I don't watch them anyway, but nice to know enough people who do must have complained about the job they were doing!
Saw that on Drudge when checking out this stuff. Being an advocate of radical leftist stuff doesn't seem to do much for the job resume's these days!
Love it.
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godfrey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:45:37pm |
re: #629 ploome hineni
“When I started out in the magazine business in 1994, the sample size was an Italian 50,” said Long Nguyen of Flaunt magazine, referring to a size equivalent to a snug 40-regular.
Hey!
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lifeofthemind Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:46:06pm |
re: #612 OldLineTexan
If anybody ever shoots me and dresses my corpse like that, I will haunt the hell outta him or her (or it).
40+ years ago before Political Correctness Mad magazine did a parady of Lawrence of Arabia with him dancing on the top of the train and singing the song from West Side Story "I'm so pretty." Those images brought the memory back.
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tilly Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:46:10pm |
re: #618 really grumpy big dog Johnson
Reading this thread and watching the brilliant move United 93 at the same time is really difficult.
It's a good thing that I saw in in the theater first...
Tilly cant watch that movie.... It makes my hair stand on end...
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doriangrey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:46:35pm |
re: #592 David IV of Georgia
I have a degree in physics—I was just being silly.
I was three years into a degree in physics when I changed my major to Music. Damned if the degree in Music didn't turn out to be harder than the degree in physics. Who'd of thunk it...
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kuffar Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:48:43pm |
re: #615 aaron01
Excellent news. But I bet after the election, they'll be back. MSM is liberal propaganda and disinfo. Gotta tear down the MSM.
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David IV of Georgia Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:49:22pm |
re: #621 Opilio
Stick with furlongs per fortnight and you'll never go wrong.
I usually go about 7500 furlongs per fortnight, in an average fortnight.
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godfrey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:49:38pm |
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HDrepub Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:49:46pm |
re: #579 tilly
I don’t know if anyone posted this because I have not read all 500+ posts in this thread but y'all do know a small article appeared in the Financial Times of London last week stating that Rupert Murdock was crunching the numbers and looking to make an offer to the stockholders of the times that would likely force a sale....
It was suggested that those on staff there better update their résumés because it was soon going to be checkout time!
The bet is on that if it goes through how many will exit before being given their pink slip by Murdock Inc......lmfao
Heh! Change the name to the New York FOX Times. Wouldn't that give them a permanent case of diaper rash.
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NoSubmission Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:49:57pm |
This will backfire in a way that the NYTimes could never have foreseen in their wildest delusional fantasies.
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kuffar Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:50:52pm |
re: #623 godfrey
Todd Palin has arrived on scene to due the Castrati Males in.
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godfrey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:50:57pm |
re: #648 NoSubmission
Given their tanking financials, I bet the NYT is just going to hash out what's already known. They're stooping to conquer.
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Biff Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:52:19pm |
How long will it be before the NYT has to cancel all home deliveries outside of Manhattan and Westchester county.
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LarrySheldon Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:54:32pm |
Is Scott Thomas Beauchamp going to write this one under his own name?
Or did Andrew Sullivan do the rat-sinking ship thing?
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ErnieG Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:55:02pm |
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LarrySheldon Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:55:22pm |
Oh, and is there anything you can do to slow this server down?
I can't keep up with the blinding mspeed.
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doriangrey Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:56:45pm |
re: #653 LarrySheldon
Is Scott Thomas Beauchamp going to write this one under his own name?
Or did Andrew Sullivan do the rat-sinking ship thing?
cognito will probably write it...
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Clutch Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:57:43pm |
Trig from outer space?!? Well, here's a nice tune for him (courtesy of The Tubes):
Space baby, you got no planet
Space baby, you got no planet
Got no home to give a name
No air to breathe, but just the same
I dig my atmosphere machine
Space baby, you been so far
Unknown face on an unknown star
The time is now my life's begun
I'm burnin' green like a rhomboid sun
I've never seen a flower grow
It's a mystery to me just how my being came
to be and why it came here
Maybe I'm not even human but I know
there's lots of room infinity
There's got to be a time and place
for me to cease this endless search
and settle down with my own race
and never, ever, ever be a Space Baby
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Zenlizard Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:58:08pm |
Noooo NYT!
Please don't publish a scathing expose about Palin's baby, we beg you!
(Heh heh... Shh!)
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yesandno Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:58:35pm |
re: #580 galloping granny
Normally a whole genetic profile is done rather than just a simple test to look for the Down's marker - just in case that one of the other nasty-awfuls is present.
Had my first child at 44. Didn't know I was pregnant until 3 1/2 months as I had no real evidence prior to then. Anyway, asked for genetic testing at the time. Doc said it was too late to abort...and I said I wasn't ever going to consider that as I don't believe in abortion...I just wanted to be prepared in case I needed to be. Better to be armed with information then ignorant of a large possibility at the time.
They did the test and at the time...some 16 years ago...tested for over 875 different genetic problems that could have shown up. Not one did...the child was perfect. But I remember being overwhelmed at the number of things they tested for. I imagine that today, that number has increased significantly. Science is amazing.
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lifeofthemind Sun, Sep 7, 2008 6:59:11pm |
re: #626 tilly
It was implied in the article that their holdings are so devalued from the loss of circulation the Sulzberger's would probably consider selling for the first time.
I realize they have different classes but I am not positive they could hold on if all the stockholders holding A class stock sell out and it is just the family looking at Murdock.
Sulzberger family controls the board with a fraction of the capital invested. Pinch has a minority of the family stock. It would take a family rebellion to kick Pinch out, a palace coup. Stockholders have tried to break these family trust stock class arrangements but the old boy network protects it. After all they protect the paper as a sacred trust in the public interest.
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kawfytawk Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:00:25pm |
oh this is ab-so-lute-ly ridiculous. NYT....leave that baby alone!
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Age Of Freedom Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:01:46pm |
re: #560 kuffar
That's excellent.
Still, most polls show an advantage to the big 0.
I refer to it as the Ron Paul mania.
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:02:54pm |
OT advisory to people reading this thread.
TNT is showing United 93 again right now in my time zone (MDT). It's not just a good movie, it's a great one-of-a-kind docudrama that is as good as I've ever seen.
CAUTION: If intense scenes in movies are particularly upsetting to you, be advised that movies don't get much more intense than this one.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:04:58pm |
re: #665 really grumpy big dog Johnson
OT advisory to people reading this thread.
TNT is showing United 93 again right now in my time zone (MDT). It's not just a good movie, it's a great one-of-a-kind docudrama that is as good as I've ever seen.
CAUTION: If intense scenes in movies are particularly upsetting to you, be advised that movies don't get much more intense than this one.
excellent, excellent movie - and also very intense, as you say. But well worth the time to watch.
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NoSubmission Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:05:12pm |
re: #665 really grumpy big dog Johnson
OT advisory to people reading this thread.
TNT is showing United 93 again right now in my time zone (MDT). It's not just a good movie, it's a great one-of-a-kind docudrama that is as good as I've ever seen.
CAUTION: If intense scenes in movies are particularly upsetting to you, be advised that movies don't get much more intense than this one.
Thanks. I"ll go turn it on. I just took a walk out with my dogs and noticed the September 11th memorial lights are again on at ground zero. I stopped for a few quiet moments and remembered that day.
Never forget.
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HDrepub Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:05:51pm |
re: #651 Biff
How long will it be before the NYT has to cancel all home deliveries outside of Manhattan and Westchester county.
This is happening in my state. A large newspaper is discontinuing rural delivery and the reason stated is delivery costs, but I think the problem is that of many newspapers today, declining subscriptions. We used to have two papers out of that city, a Donk leaning paper and a Republican leaning paper, until Gannett bought out both. Now we have only the Donk paper. Go figure.
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Clutch Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:05:54pm |
NEWS FLASH: Trig Palin busted at airport and charged with weapons possesion; tried to board plane with a loaded diaper. Film at eleven.
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Capitalistincharge Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:06:19pm |
United 93 is replaying on TNT now. Saw it in the movie theater with my daughter and SNL. At the end when it went to black screen you heard alot of sniffles. We walked out and there was total silence amongst the crowd. We got into the car and sat for a moment and Daughter said it was the most powerful, emotional movie experience she had ever been through, and then SinLaw, who is of few words..."f**king Bastards. Great movie to play right now to remind us all why Bambi must not prevail.
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DoubleU Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:08:05pm |
re: #34 JammieWearingFool
Later they'll sit around the newsroom wondering why everyone hates them.
No they wont.
Besides they cater to liberals, liberals don't mind attacking children, the ends justify the means.
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JustMyView Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:08:14pm |
re: #665 really grumpy big dog Johnson
OT advisory to people reading this thread.
TNT is showing United 93 again right now in my time zone (MDT).
Thanks for letting us know. Have seen this before, but will watch it again. Did you post this notice on the other thread?
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lopinslow Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:10:05pm |
re: #665 really grumpy big dog Johnson
I saw that it was on. I haven't seen it and I don't think I can yet. It still makes my heart sick to think about it.
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scrubjay Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:11:40pm |
Right now the only story on Trig at the NYT is this one:
Parents of Special-Needs Children Divided Over Palin’s Promise to Help
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Is this the story that Drudge is referring to?
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Dr. Shalit Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:11:42pm |
re: #499 JustMyView
Palin is on the cover of both Time (scroll down and to right to see cover image) and Newsweek (cover image is at right under slideshow, which also contains a cool Sarah image).
"JMV" -
Suddenly its April, 1964 - an exclusive "Mustang Story" in both magazines, (Iacocca was a Magnificent Bastard way before Karl Rove). Was great merchandising at the time. Let's see how the "Gruesome Twosome" play this one.
-S-
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kulhwch Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:11:58pm |
re: #46 MandyManners
It would be a bad thing to suggest parents who are pissed off at the NYT to send them used diapers.
Yes, yes it would be a very bad thing.
Letters to the Editor
The New York Times
620 Eighth Avenue
New York, NY 10018
}:) [And I'm so proud of you for pointing out how bad it would be.]
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TMF Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:12:15pm |
DOH
McCain gets 15 point convention "bounce"! Check the polls. He was down 4-5 points and is now up TEN in a USA TOday poll of LVs!
DOH!
Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann relieved of anchor duties at MSNBC for the debates and election night!
DOH!
I got nothing else! What could be better than those!
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Obsidiandog Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:13:09pm |
re: #378 sagamoregal
O/T but did anyone watch the AK Gov debate from '06 just airred on C-Span? Three very intelligent candidates. Didn't seem like there was that much separating the three candidates on most issues except for the "life" issues. She had to have won on the strength of her personality (or having Todd and Track going around threatening the citizens with a hockey stick up the head if they didn't vote for her ).
The MSM can't say that she was for abortion before she was against it. Seems like she's always been 100% pro life.
It's on again right now.
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TMF Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:13:50pm |
Flight 93-
No better argument for a McCain presidency.
Between the two candidates, who is more likely to do what Todd Beamer did- Obama or John McCain?
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Gearhead Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:15:22pm |
re: #678 TMF
DOH
McCain gets 15 point convention "bounce"! Check the polls. He was down 4-5 points and is now up TEN in a USA TOday poll of LVs!
Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann relieved of anchor duties at MSNBC for the debates and election night!
Revolution - Day 9
Status: On Schedule
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:16:37pm |
re: #13 Killgore Trout
It drools and poops. What's more to expose? It's a [cry] baby!
Thus, the NYT sees it as competition. It must be stopped.
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Mars Needs Neocons Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:18:29pm |
re: #675 scrubjay
Right now the only story on Trig at the NYT is this one:
Parents of Special-Needs Children Divided Over Palin’s Promise to Help
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Is this the story that Drudge is referring to?
I call BS. The only parents of special needs children I've talked to that are divided or unsure are the ones that are lifelong democrat drones. Everyone else was very impressed.
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strandedSF Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:18:51pm |
re: #53 goddessoftheclassroom
Any chance it means Bristol Palin's baby? Not that that's much better...
Oh, wait, it can't--it's not a baby until it's born.
It's not a baby even after it's born, according to The Messiah. Especially if it's 'defective.'
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Gearhead Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:18:51pm |
NYT's bold experiment: Can a newspaper survive with no readers at all?
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yochanan Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:20:52pm |
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jim in virginia Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:21:32pm |
This has surely been said before, but when did Democrats start questioning a working mom's choie of a nanny or day care? As I recall the only concern about Zoe Baird's nanny was if she was legal.
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oldbluesboy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:22:31pm |
I've already read an advanced copy of the NYTrash.
Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann are the real parents of both babies. The Palin family is just pro-adoption.
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docremulac Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:22:43pm |
The liberals go through this every 4 years. They start to loose and they think it's because they're not being barbaric enough. Look at the liberal blogs, they're always saying they need to get uglier. They think if they got nasty enough America would put them in power for some reason.
Liberals are very ugly hateful people inside.
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yochanan Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:22:52pm |
re: #685 Gearhead
NYT's bold experiment: Can a newspaper survive with no readers at all?
the liberal chatting class LOVE THE SLIMES. they think it is there bible from mt. Sinai
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Moe Katz Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:23:56pm |
re: #380 buzzsawmonkey
She invented the Tudor hardtop, right?
Ford did actually use that pun to name some of their coupes, way back when.
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Obsidiandog Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:24:18pm |
re: #671 Capitalistincharge
United 93 is replaying on TNT now. Saw it in the movie theater with my daughter and SNL. At the end when it went to black screen you heard alot of sniffles. We walked out and there was total silence amongst the crowd. We got into the car and sat for a moment and Daughter said it was the most powerful, emotional movie experience she had ever been through, and then SinLaw, who is of few words..."f**king Bastards. Great movie to play right now to remind us all why Bambi must not prevail.
I saw it in the theater as well. During the final battle between the passengers and the tangos I noticed I was almost tearing the armrests off my seat. I wanted my hands around some scumbag's throat. I've never felt so much tension in a movie before.
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LittleGreenFavre Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:24:19pm |
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:24:38pm |
re: #80 sagamoregal
That man's ex wife has already refuted that: said absolutely NOT true, it is a lie. She further went on to and said that she can say with 1000% accuracy that Sarah Palin NEVER had ANY AFFAIR.
Not just not with her ex-husband --the former business partner but with NO ONE.
She mentioned that as soon as it was announced on Friday, her husband requested the court to seal their divorce papers. The court denied it but it was on THAT request they "assumed" he wanted to hide something. She explained that her ex husband is a private man and with the press digging around --since he and Todd Palin had been business partners was that he did not want his financial information publicized.
The press have now seen the divorce records. The Palins had nothing to do with their getting a divorce.
I'll see if I still have the link for that quote.
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NoSubmission Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:24:38pm |
I've never seen the beginning of Flight 93 before. Its very good.
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yochanan Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:25:39pm |
re: #680 TMF
Flight 93-
No better argument for a McCain presidency.
Between the two candidates, who is more likely to do what Todd Beamer did- Obama or John McCain?
JOHN MCCAIN IS QUALIFIED TO BE C.I.C.
obama is qualified to be chicago alderman as it is acceptable to have a slizey alderman who lies through his teeth.
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yochanan Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:26:46pm |
re: #693 Obsidiandog
I saw it in the theater as well. During the final battle between the passengers and the tangos I noticed I was almost tearing the armrests off my seat. I wanted my hands around some scumbag's throat. I've never felt so much tension in a movie before.
one of the few decent movies out of hollywird.
and the last one i went to
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gennyk Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:28:09pm |
The media is apoplectic that McCain didn't include them in his VP pick decision. How dare he blindside them and not let them vet his pick. What we are observing is a 3 year old temper tantrum - legs flailing and fists pounding the floor. Only they are much much more 'dangerous'. They will continue this onslaught on the Palin's until they are shown the respect they think they deserve. I know she is a fighter and they will get through it, but May God bless them through the ordeal.
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yochanan Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:29:47pm |
re: #699 gennyk
The media is apoplectic that McCain didn't include them in his VP pick decision. How dare he blindside them and not let them vet his pick. What we are observing is a 3 year old temper tantrum - legs flailing and fists pounding the floor. Only they are much much more 'dangerous'. They will continue this onslaught on the Palin's until they are shown the respect they think they deserve. I know she is a fighter and they will get through it, but May God bless them through the ordeal.
f''' the MSM
LET THE BLACK CAT OUT ON THE NEW YORK SLIME
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Inconspicuous Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:31:05pm |
NYSlimes is clueless of the visceral reactions they are producing. It's in our DNA to rush to the defense of women and babies...and the more vulnerable, the stronger the subconscious reaction. Sarah Palin doesn't need defending, but the response is the same, and now they want to pick on a 5 months old downs syndrome baby? BRING IT...more votes for the good guys.
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Proud to be American Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:35:44pm |
re: #79 Nevergiveup
The only thing I can think of is that they seriouly considered an abortion. Not that, that is anyone's buiseness but their own, and they ended up having the baby. IF they even ever did consider an abortion.
I would seriously doubt that Sarah considered that - but even if so considering something isn't the same as actually doing it. Just like Barack "considered going into the military", but didn't.
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:44:52pm |
I think it is going to backfire on them. People are so sick of the underhanded attacks by the left and to stoop to bringing children into it is beyond the pale.
Attack the issues, attack the policies, attack their ethics -- you don't go after their spouses and kids.
And the press is treating her differently and unfairly, the public certainly knows it.
They covered up the whole Edwards mistress/baby and that occurred while he was running FOR president AND being considered as a Vice President. And it took the Enquirer a YEAR to collect evidence.
Yet in less than a week they disclose that Sarah Palin had an affair?
It was within HOURS of her announcement last Friday when the allegations first appeared on KOS that Bristol was the mother's baby.
NOT ONE of these people even KNEW before Friday that she was going to be the pick and within hours and days they suddenly claim they have "PROOF" of all this scandal!
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Dave the..... Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:47:53pm |
This will backfire in a way that the NYTimes could never have foreseen in their wildest delusional fantasies.
Yup. They haven't caught on yet that if they didn't go all out hate on Palin in the 5 days between the pick and the speach, Barry O would probably have a good lead now. They keep coming back for more. Hatred and bigotry makes people act irrationally.
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:55:53pm |
re: #701 Inconspicuous
That's exactly it. They are clueless in that at this point I don't think anyone really cares WHOSE baby it is........maybe she found it on her doorstep ....leave it alone.
We don't even know which baby they are talking about.
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NY Nana Sun, Sep 7, 2008 7:59:19pm |
Google this: palin baby NY times....and see what you get as #1! ;)
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Adina in Judea Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:04:21pm |
The article called "Fusing Politics and Motherhood in New Way" on NYT is very nice, but the date on it is September 7th (not September 9th.)
Fusing Politics and Motherhood in New Way
Is this really the "Meet the Baby" article that Drudge is talking about?
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:08:36pm |
re: #706 NY Nana
Interesting..........this is the only website that might appear to be "promoting" the headline? Not good it it gives the appearance of SUPPORT the NYT.
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:11:11pm |
re: #708 Adina in Judea
I wondered that myself. That it was not going to be a negative expose but that word was used because it would get more attention.
But the headline led people to BELIEVE it was going to be another smear?
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gm096510 Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:14:11pm |
re: #708 Adina in Judea
Hmmmm. This is a straight forward piece. Is it the one Drudge references?
-GM
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TheSpartan Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:23:33pm |
Let's do a re-cap of todays news:
Adam Gadahn -- Dead
Kim Jung Ill -- Dead
Modern-day Murrow & Butt Plug's Career -- Dead
Obama's Campaign -- KIA Sep 3, 2008
MSM's Credibility -- Dead
NYT -- Soon-To-Be-Dead
What a day!
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:23:53pm |
re: #708 Adina in Judea
I'll bet that is the big "expose" --she and her husband kept it secret until just weeks before and never disclosed their son was Downs.
She did have amnio so she did know conclusively. And the big "expose" appears to be that she did not tell her children or her parents or friends that the child was Downs BEFORE he was born.
Big whoop...........
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NY Nana Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:24:58pm |
re: #708 Adina in Judea
It just broke within the hour, and here it is still the 7th. I was amazed at just how fair it was...a real shock.
It is online, and will be in the paper in the AM..but not in our home.
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jas Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:25:06pm |
She's called Ms. Palin throughout the article. I'm sorry, but, that's not the appropriate address. She's happily married, and the title shows complete disrespect to both Mr. and Mrs. Palin.
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:28:41pm |
That has to be the NYT times piece. Why would they publish THAT piece if they were sitting on some big "expose" that would contradict it?
It would only make them look stupid after revealing the details of her pregnancy and the birth.
If they researched that article --they certainly would have "dug up" all they could and wouldn't have suddenly discovered something new a day later.
Does anyone else think the link to that NYT article should go up under the "Expose" breaking headline?
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jas Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:33:01pm |
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:34:11pm |
I just noticed the word 'Expose' did have quotes .......
What better way to "entice" people to read it and then those looking for the "dirt" can say HUH? Wait a minute --this is exposing facts and quotes attributed to actual persons not unknown sources. What kind of expose is that? /sarcasm/
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NY Nana Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:35:00pm |
re: #710 Nancy
I don't think it will hurt LGF, and that the article is so amazingly sensible re the plight of working mothers, is amazing. As a retired RN, they actually gave 2 different opinions re flying home, etc., after her membranes ruptured, and how her sister also has a special needs son, who is autistic.
I looked for a sarky remark, but could not honestly find one. I have a feeling that the 3 women who wrote it may very well have also been through it, thus had actual empathy for her. Rare for al_NY Slimes, to say the very least. Drudge can be melodramatic, also, to keep people coming back to his site.
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njslim Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:37:13pm |
United 93 is replaying on TNT now. Saw it in the movie theater with my daughter and SNL. At the end when it went to black screen you heard alot of sniffles. We walked out and there was total silence amongst the crowd. We got into the car and sat for a moment and Daughter said it was the most powerful, emotional movie experience she had ever been through, and then SinLaw, who is of few words..."f**king Bastards. Great movie to play right now to remind us all why Bambi must not prevail.
Was watching this last year in my firehouse after meeting (seen it in
movie theater) on premium movie channel - some of our young (18-19)
firemen really got worked up seeing what happened on that day.
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ga_republican Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:43:51pm |
Ther is a new article on NYT right now, actually is a favorable Palin article on balancing being Trig's Mom and the Governor.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:44:51pm |
re: #717 ploome hineni
I was still serving on one elected board after I became widowed and it was never even raised and in the role call vote I was STILL "Mrs so and so."
Never even thought of that until you mentioned happily married because I was still addressed as Mrs. after I became a widow.
I have NO idea what the "protcol" actually is but I won't use Ms.
A little old to be Miss .......so I just wouldn't use use ANY title I guess.
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TalkinKamel Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:44:52pm |
re: #593 Mars Needs Neocons
Well, you're lucky in having met a better class of said workers. Most of the ones I've met have either been unpleasant, and clueless---or very nice, but, alas, also rather clueless.
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:49:20pm |
re: #722 NY Nana
No, I don't think it will hurt LGF since the article seems extremely fair now that it appears to be out already.
Clever Charles, I should not have questioned it!
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 8:56:05pm |
re: #722 NY Nana
Imagine the disappointment of those chomping at the bit for some "dirt" and reading it.
I thought it was extremely well written and balanced as well. It addresses what every working mom faces. Millions of women will relate to it.
And, I had friends who kept their child's Downs secret until after the birth. I think that is because it is such a difficult thing for expectant parents to face.
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Aussie Infidel Sun, Sep 7, 2008 9:00:53pm |
It's time fellow lizards.
Out with the pitch forks and fiery brands.
Step lively there fellow 'global ' villagers.....
Let's burn the old grey slut to the ground, before the fanged denizens inside fly away!
//sarc
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NY Nana Sun, Sep 7, 2008 9:06:44pm |
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Reality_Wrangler Sun, Sep 7, 2008 9:08:45pm |
A puff piece about Trig would actually be a nice safe way for the slimes to fade heat about the bias complaints without giving up any real political ground for Barry.
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chotii Sun, Sep 7, 2008 9:14:28pm |
re: #341 mich-again
I look for the NYT to point out how its an easier decision to have a Down's child when you have lots of resources (read: money) to help pay for extra expenses that will come along, in an effort to downplay Sarah Palin's courageous decision to keep the baby. And then they'll go into full attack mode about how low income children with Down's syndrome are left behind by the evil capitalistic Republicans.
As the mother of a child who spent the first 3 months of her life in hospital, who had several major surgeries before the age of 2, and who has had years of therapy.....well, this is true. If it were not for my very excellent private health insurance coverage, there is no way we could have afforded to keep her alive, and that's the truth.
Nevertheless, those who can.....do. The poor always bear the brunt of evil in the world. In many places today, a large number of otherwise normal, healthy babies do not make it to their fifth birthdays. But it has nothing to do with evil capitalistic anybodys.
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 9:17:34pm |
re: #730 NY Nana
Yes, indeed......
I started figuring it out ==maybe a little slow but it is late (EST)!
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NY Nana Sun, Sep 7, 2008 9:21:21pm |
re: #728 Nancy
They must be frothing at the mouth! I have seen Drudge do this before, and as of now, it is still not up.
Bet he is waiting until the AM.
I agree with you re the article. I sent it to my daughter, who is a writer who now freelances from home, as she totally re-prioritized her life post-9.11. She is a stay at home Mum, by choice, and my son in law encourages her.
She was furious with Gov. Palin for not flying home ASAP when her membranes ruptured, and will not vote Republican. That article, I think, will make her stop and think.
My 2 year old grandson kept taking the phone away from her to talk to me. Smart boy! ;)
That article, I hope, will make an impression on lots of women, who might just feel some empathy for Gov. Palin, and actually decide to vote Republican. I sense a sea change re how people will look at working mother.
BTW, even seeing 'Ms' makes my teeth gnash.
But seeing it in al_NYT? Astounding. I also saved the article.
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NY Nana Sun, Sep 7, 2008 9:23:57pm |
re: #733 Nancy
I am a night owl...if I get to bed by 2 AM, it gets written down! ;)
I really expected a vicious attack article, and am still in shock!
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Intrepid Sun, Sep 7, 2008 9:26:32pm |
re: #495 Sharmuta
Meet the Baby? He's 5 months old- what is there to know?
He eats, sleeps, poops, burps, spits-up, farts, coos and blinks.
So much for Barack Obama's pronouncement of "leaving the family out of it".
Evidently the NYT didn't get that memo, or if they did, they totally ignored it.
I'd like to find a list of NYT advertisers, so that I can write letters. Anyone have that list?
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 9:35:20pm |
re: #736 Intrepid
Look above and there is a link to the article --it is NOT negative.
Balancing Motherhood and politics. More than one person posted up above.
The shocker is that it is very well written and balanced.
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 9:41:16pm |
re: #734 NY Nana
I don't think they ruptured ...it said "leaking amniotic fluid" which isn't the water breaking. Cause it sure doesn't leak out when it ruptures!
She wasn't in labor either since the article said she went directly to her home town hospital and they induced labor.
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Chotii Sun, Sep 7, 2008 9:54:42pm |
As long as the woman is not Strep B Positive, I quote from:
"If you have premature preterm rupture of membranes, as long as you have not lost too much fluid, there probably will not be any problem. You probably have a "high leak" and, since the fluid regenerates itself daily (the baby swallows the fluid and urinates more fluid), it probably will not have any consequences. However, since the integrity of the amniotic sac has been compromised, there is also a risk of infection in the uterus (because it is open to the outside) and this can lead to preterm labor or infection leading to fetal compromise. You should be on modified bed rest and should take your temperature frequently. If you develop any temperature over 100.4 F or if your WBC starts to creep up, you may have to be delivered earlier than planned."
And I add: as long as nobody starts sticking their hands up there to "check", (sex is also restricted) thus potentially forcing bacteria up toward the mouth of the womb.
If Mrs Palin was NOT in labor, then there was NO crisis. The fact that the baby is a Downs baby is irrelevent. No fever == no problem. Her doctor clearly agreed. When she got home 12 hours later, decision was made to induce. What is the issue here?
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NY Nana Sun, Sep 7, 2008 9:54:54pm |
re: #738 Nancy
My bad! Right you are. And she went into labor a day after returning. IIRC...and they then ruptured membranes, as there was nothing going on.
Been there, done that 3 times. #4 was the shocker, as he was in a biiig hurry, and was also the biggest of the 4.
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 9:59:50pm |
re: #739 Chotii
That's what I have said as well. There is no issue.
She checked with her doctor and she obviously wasn't in danger and flew home. That there CAN be a "risk" when the fluid starts leaking but it isn't necessarily a crisis. And it certainly has nothing to do with Downs.
I would have done the same as she did. Got on the plane and gone home.
I believe she HAD gone to an ER down there and they DID evaluate her.
I have made no issue of her judgment.
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NY Nana Sun, Sep 7, 2008 9:59:53pm |
re: #736 Intrepid
Here is the article...I can't find anything to complain about! And for me, that is very unusual. Kvetching is my hobby.
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NY Nana Sun, Sep 7, 2008 10:01:50pm |
re: #741 Nancy
There are actually 2 MD's opinions on that in the article...more fair and balanced than Fox has been! One says she should have gone ASAP, while the other said she did the right thing.
Amazing!
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 10:02:31pm |
re: #740 NY Nana
With my 4th I waited until the VERY end before going to the hospital --when I arrived, they walked me to the delivery room, no preparations and the only one I delivered with earrings and makeup on 35 minutes after I arrived!
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Nancy Sun, Sep 7, 2008 10:04:45pm |
re: #743 NY Nana
It was a very balanced article. Still no MD could know just what her "symptoms" were and I do believe that I read she DID go to an ER and was evaluated and told she was not in danger.
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NY Nana Sun, Sep 7, 2008 10:12:51pm |
re: #744 Nancy
ROTFL! My first son waited 2 days to decide...what I had done I will spare everyone the details...it was almost 45 years ago. He, to this day, arrives late. We tell him and my dil that any family dinner, etc., is starting an hour earlier than it is...and they are late. My poor little granddaughter!
My daughter and second son also needed an assist, but were easier by far. Number 4 was in such a hurry that the 3 older ones had to wake my husband up...we made it with very little time to spare, and my 'baby' was born in less than an hour! I had to yell out 'precip' to get the RN's into my labor room...they were my friends, and told me to stop teasing them..one checked me, and the next thing I knew I was being given enough anesthesia for quints, at least, and rushed into the delivery room!
Now? When the 3 grandkids were born (all onlys, like I am) we were there to see and to hold them..a very different world.
Time to do a few things and to attempt to go to bed on less than 4-5 tries!
G'nite lizards! Sweet dreams!
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NY Nana Sun, Sep 7, 2008 10:14:52pm |
re: #745 Nancy
But at least the MD's were from excellent medical centers...and no, they did not see her personally, but after bearing 4 children, I have a feeling that she knew what stage she was in...
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Chotii Sun, Sep 7, 2008 10:28:19pm |
re: #743 NY Nana
There are actually 2 MD's opinions on that in the article...more fair and balanced than Fox has been! One says she should have gone ASAP, while the other said she did the right thing.
Amazing!
I have a friend who, sadly, lost her baby at 22 weeks of pregnancy. She had ROM as well as a progressively-detached placenta. She went to see her regular doctor, but he was out. The stand-in SOB told her "The party's over, go in and be induced." She called me in hysteria, asking if I knew anything she could do, because she knew I was on bedrest with my own very high-risk pregnancy. I referred her to the high-risk OBs with whom I was working. They tried...everything. They even had her in Trendelenberg position at home (where the germs are familiar), trying to help her body retain as much of the vital amniotic fluid as possible. She still lost the baby. But they *tried*. And the concern was never whether she might develop an infection. Of course she might have, but they would have dealt with that if and when it happened. She had ROM for days before fetal demise occurred. Infection was not a problem. It CAN be a problem. But there are symptoms when that happens, and it doesn't happen in 12 hours.
Joshua would be 9 years old now, the same age as my twins.
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Reality_Wrangler Sun, Sep 7, 2008 11:03:49pm |
Drudge changed "expose" to "detailed report". Looks likes his sources were having a little fun with him.
Now on Tuesday when NYT goes back to recycling lies about her book burning orgies and forced creationism curricula, they can point to this piece. "Well, we were nice to Trig, after all." Fair and balanced.
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