another bot infestation?

Ron Paul is a punk.

A new thread, thank God. I was feeling guilty of hamster abuse.

I'm actually pleased that Paul turned him down; I'd rather not have a Paul endorsement. And by the same token, I wish McCain hadn't asked for it.

And Ron won't do any by taking votes away from McCain. Nice.

re: #3 Occasional Reader

And by the same token, I wish McCain hadn't asked for it

(Of course, this raises a question: Do we know for sure that McCain asked for it? Has the McCain camp, or some reliable third party confirmed that?)

re: #3 Occasional Reader

A new thread, thank God. I was feeling guilty of hamster abuse.

I'm actually pleased that Paul turned him down; I'd rather not have a Paul endorsement. And by the same token, I wish McCain hadn't asked for it.

Can one take Ron Paul's word that his endorsement was requested?

What an ass Ron Paul is. Even Mike Gravel defended Sarah Palin for cryin' out loud.

re: #5 Occasional Reader

(Of course, this raises a question: Do we know for sure that McCain asked for it? Has the McCain camp, or some reliable third party confirmed that?)

Exactly what I was just thinking.

re: #3 Occasional Reader

A new thread, thank God. I was feeling guilty of hamster abuse.

I'm actually pleased that Paul turned him down; I'd rather not have a Paul endorsement. And by the same token, I wish McCain hadn't asked for it.

Do we know for a fact that Sen. McCain asked for it?

Paul said: “The idea was that he would do less harm than the other candidate.”

B.S. meter twitches. That's really how the McCain campaign presented themselves, eh, Ron?

The Paulians will all vote for Bob Barr anyhow.

Ick... Crazy Uncle.
Ick.

GMTA is contagious this a.m..

I find it real hard to believe the McCain camp would feel they need to stoop this low .. I call BS and Ron Paul!

#8 callahan23 & #9 Mandy: WE ARE THE HIVE MIND! PREPARE TO BE ASSIMILATED! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

re: #12 Ringo the Gringo

The Paulians will all vote for Bob Barr anyhow.

Given what I've seen of soem of the Ronulans, I'd suspect a fair number of them my vote for the Obamessiah as a substitute for "The Only Man Who Can Save America^TM"

I'm sorry...Ron who?

The gesture of asking Paul for his endorsement may win McCain a few votes.

Man, I really don't know how McCain is going to win this election without that little blimp appearing at his rallies...

/

re: #3 Occasional Reader

A new thread, thank God. I was feeling guilty of hamster abuse.

I'm actually pleased that Paul turned him down; I'd rather not have a Paul endorsement. And by the same token, I wish McCain hadn't asked for it.

In a way it makes sense. Paul's big issue was the Iraqi war and war on terror, and here he seems to be even more of a pacifist than Obama.

Having seen the off the wall 'base' that Ron Paul seemed to attract, I'm glad to see that he desires to keep away from McCain and Palin. Quite frankly, I'm surprised that RP was even approached.

re: #15 turn

I find it real hard to believe the McCain camp would feel they need to stoop this low .. I call BS and Ron Paul!

Perhaps we can just start "I call Ron Paul", and save the other typing. Same stuff.

re: #16 Occasional Reader

#8 callahan23 & #9 Mandy: WE ARE THE HIVE MIND! PREPARE TO BE ASSIMILATED! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

re: #18 NR Pax

I'm sorry...Ron who?

According to the Ron Paulians earlier this year, he is "The Only Man Who Can Save America^TM".

Wait a minute... shouldn't we just be ignoring Ron Paul?

Seems like lipstickgate is not a new phenomenon.

'Lipstickgate,' suit heat up Renton politics

The craziness started, some say, when the Renton mayor left a heated City Council hearing last year to find "BITCH" scrawled in red lipstick across her bathroom mirror.

I know a Paulbot, his dream is McCain strokes out, then Ron Paul would be the logical choice to step up.

*not making it up*

I need a poll:

Whose endorsement does McCain need to win the election:

1. NYT
2. Andrea Mitchell
3. Chris Matthews
4. Bill Mahrer
5. Paul Krugman
6. Kieth Olbermann
7. Ron Paul!
8. None of the above

re: #22 gonecamping

Having seen the off the wall 'base' that Ron Paul seemed to attract, I'm glad to see that he desires to keep away from McCain and Palin. Quite frankly, I'm surprised that RP was even approached.

If McCain did indeed seek Ron Paul's endorsement, it's a big mistake.

The best thing McCain could have done was to announce that he didn't want the endorsement of someone who was so comfortable keeping company with open racists and fascists.

Or, for maximum effect, have Sarah Palin make that announcement.

Obama accuses McCain camp of lies, phony outrage

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Wednesday accused Republican John McCain's campaign of using "lies and phony outrage and Swift-boat politics" in claiming he used a sexist comment against vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

Lies! Outrage! Swift-boat!

Exactly where is the "lie" Barry?
The outrage is definitely not phony.
How is demanding an apology "swift-boating"?

Obama is floundering badly.

Lalalalalala I can't hear you John McCain lalalalalala!

a flailing attempt at being considered relevant to the race? Seems kinda pathetic and raises real doubts as to the veracity that the request came from the McCain camp. But who am I to question someone that hangs out with Cynthia McKinney!

Paul won no primaries in the Republican nomination contest but developed a strong following on the Internet. He appeared at a news conference with third-party candidates, including Ralph Nader and former Georgia Democratic Rep. Cynthia McKinney. Paul suggested backing the non-major party candidates.

re: #29 Celtic Templar

I need a poll:

Whose endorsement does McCain need to win the election:

1. NYT
2. Andrea Mitchell
3. Chris Matthews
4. Bill Mahrer
5. Paul Krugman
6. Kieth Olbermann
7. Ron Paul!
8. None of the above

NOTA.

re: #29 Celtic Templar

I need a poll:

Whose endorsement does McCain need to win the election:

1. NYT
2. Andrea Mitchell
3. Chris Matthews
4. Bill Mahrer
5. Paul Krugman
6. Kieth Olbermann
7. Ron Paul!
8. None of the above

9. John Kerry is an idiot!

McCain and Obama have something in common....
they both hung out with Marxists, Barack as a student, McCain from the ceiling.

Single issue voters are by definition narrow minded. Many single issue people don't care or acknowledge there is a jihadist threat and we are right to fight it on many fronts.

I would not want Ron Paul as my commander in chief or as my leader on any issue.

My priorities are to WIN the war, and drill for energy to arm & equip our nation rather than impoverish it.

re: #31 Racer X

"But I love this country too much to let them take over another election with lies and phony outrage and Swift-boat politics"

It's sure nice that Obama lets them campaign at all, isn't it? Wotta guy!

I guess McCain can't count on the truther/neo-Nazi vote in this election!

Paul can go to hell.

re: #10 taxfreekiller

just my view

should you have missed this on the long thread below

of note: from the Democratic Party web site, PRIOR to Obama's pig moment.

[Link: www.wnd.com...]

facts count up

Barry, you've got some 'splaining to do.

re: #31 Racer X

McCain is deep inside O's OODA loop.

Obama's
Outmaneuvered
Delayed
Arrested

And the original "Swift-boating" was simply telling the truth. Not that the Dems would understand that at this point.

re: #29 Celtic Templar

I need a poll:

Whose endorsement does McCain need to win the election:

1. NYT
2. Andrea Mitchell
3. Chris Matthews
4. Bill Mahrer
5. Paul Krugman
6. Kieth Olbermann
7. Ron Paul!
8. None of the above

* * *
Oddly enough, items 1 through 6 at one time ENDORSED McCain, or pretended to endorse McCain.

Well, at least we know Crazy Uncle Ron is alive and well.

/I feared he was holed up in remote encampment stockpiling arms and ammunition...

re: #31 Racer X

Obama is floundering badly.

The word's foundering, but what th' hay. The image of a fish flapping about on dry land, gasping for breath, does it too.

It did not hurt to ask for RP's endorsement - Mac can use as many votes as he can get. It's not like the Paulians are going to vote for Obama. They will most likely waste their vote on "other".

Ron Paul supporters will be too busy playing World of Warcraft to vote.

Why, oh why, on God's green earth, did he want RP's blessing?

Ew, spit, spit, spit.

re: #29 Celtic Templar

I need a poll:

Whose endorsement does McCain need to win the election:

1. The American voter
2. The American voter
3. The American voter
4. The American voter
5. The American voter
6. The American voter
7. The American voter
8. All of the above

Obama has hit back - "Stop the phony outrage". Yeah right. We'll stop when you fess up to Rev Wright and Ayres.

re: #48 Silhouette

Why, oh why, on God's green earth, did he want RP's blessing?

Ew, spit, spit, spit.

Party unity. Trying to bring all the (R) candidates back in. IMHO, a decent gesture but doubt it was expected to be accepted.

re: #36 jcm

McCain and Obama have something in common....
they both hung out with Marxists, Barack as a student, McCain from the ceiling.

Compelling and funny! Nice!

The Paulistinian - relevant and responsible as ever.

re: #36 jcm

*whack*

I'm having way to much fun. Time to go to work!

re: #23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Perhaps we can just start "I call Ron Paul", and save the other typing. Same stuff.

Yeah, I saw no one had called it yet so I thought I would get it off all our chests.

re: #10 taxfreekiller

just my view

should you have missed this on the long thread below

of note: from the Democratic Party web site, PRIOR to Obama's pig moment.

[Link: www.wnd.com...]

facts count up

The pig picture has been around a while.

re: #36 jcm

Ha!

Re: Paul declining alleged McCain overtures - Bullet. Dodged.

re: #42 victor_yugo

McCain is deep inside O's OODA loop.

Obama's
Outmaneuvered
Delayed
Arrested

And the original "Swift-boating" was simply telling the truth. Not that the Dems would understand that at this point.

Who ya gonna believe, Kerry or 62 eye witnesses?

Well, Fred endorsed McCain at the convention. Huck endorsed McCain at the convention. Ditto Mitt, ditto Rudy. And Paul gets the call yesterday? How far down on the list is this nut? I'm guessing if the call really did happen (and I'm dubious) it got made by some high school intern putting time in for government class. Enjoy your five delegate votes from the roll call, RP. Fool.

re: #54 MandyManners

*whack*

Deserved, *grin*

There's still a Ron Paul sticker on a light pole I frequently drive by and my daughter (every time!) yells, "What's THAT still doing up there?!" She follows the comment with an 8-year-old BWWWWWAAAAHHHAAAAHHHAAAA!

How did this kook even make the endorsement call list?

The good doctor and his delusions of grandeur!

I imagine if RP got the call it was because he was one of the Republican candidates in the primaries. If they left him off the list ... well you've seen what happens when RP is left off a poll.

In any case, this is just him trying to seem important. The media is trying to make sure RP's followers don't go for McCain so they're playing this up.

RP is a bizarre entity who attracts other bizarre entities to his sphere.

Why would McCain even ask?

re: #67 wrl1984

Why would McCain even ask?

Well, presumably, Paul holds maybe 1-2% of the electorate.

If so, that's actually a significant number of votes, enough to potentially swing a close state and tip the election.

But there is one big problem with this line of thought. Ron Paul's electorate is mostly "none of the above" types (including at least some disaffected Republicans).

If Paul endorsed McCain, his constituency probably wouldn't go vote for McCain, instead it would just dump Ron Paul and go to some other "none of the above candidate".

So now we have a strong disincentive for Paul to give the endorsement (why toss away his constituency?), and predictably, he didn't yield it. And of course, it probably wouldn't help anyway.

There is one potential benefit to asking for it, (apart from McCain at least trying to appear to be inclusive). Since Paul isn't being a team player by endorsing his party's nominee, this could lead to further breakdown between Paul and the rest of the Republicans.

re: #50 EIDE_Interface

Obama has hit back - "Stop the phony outrage". Yeah right. We'll stop when you fess up to Rev Wright and Ayres.

Its not "phony" and if Obama is too tone-deaf to see it, he's got a bad problem.

Doesn't the job description of politicians specifically include NOT making statements that tend to offend large numbers of people?

And this was the big news that his spokesperson said would "influence the outcome of the election?"

Ron Paul actually thinks it is so important that he was ASKED for an endorsement that he has to hold a press conference to reveal that and say he would not endorse McCain?

Big deal. He apparently has not figured out that most of his online supporters were not registered voters and probably not even citizens of the US.

Couldn't have been or he would have gotten more votes than his dismal few percent.

re: #67 wrl1984

No indication that McCain requested. It said the McCain campaign but
Gramm may have taken it on his own self to do it.

Does Gramm have an actual position in the McCain campaign or is he just supporting McCain and campaigning for him? There is a difference.

re: #68 looking closely

I think your analysis is on target.
His core group would not likely vote for McCain anyway. That 1-2% are more likely going to vote for one of the other 3rd party candidates.

There are enough of them that it won't be any worse for McCain than it is for Obama.

As well as the comment above --he was a Republican in the primary and he would be at least asked to make an endorsement.

I just flat don't believe it....
Show me the tape, and then maybe.
Pauliacs are some of the weirdest nutjobs out there, we're still cleaning up telephone poles and buildings from their endless messy graffiti.

re: #43 alegrias

You forgot Maureen Dowd ....til MoDo starts calling him Sugar Daddy, nothing's gonna happen for him...
/sarc/

re: #3 Occasional Reader

My feelings too.........Glad Ron Paul didn't give it.

Maybe the McCain campaign is also relieved he didn't give it. But felt as a courtesy to Paul having been a primary candidate, they had to ask.

Just because they asked for it --doesn't even mean they expected it or actually wanted it. More favorable to the McCain campaign that he did NOT give it!

The idea was that he would do less harm than the other candidate

Untill Palin that was the only reason for my support.

your going to eat those words when he becomes president

It just doesn't make sense Ron Paul would endorse McCain. It's like Ahmadinejad supporting Israel.

I've already met a few Paulians around town. Mentally ill.

OT:

ON Drudge: STRONG QUAKE IN IRAN... DEVELOPING...

Can we hope it is near the nuclear facility?

Earthquake already hit Iran:

IRAN: EARTHQUAKE (6. 1 RICHTER) NEAR BANDAR ABBAS, THREE DEAD
Agenzia Giornalistica Italia, Italy - 3 hours ago
An earthquake that measured 6.1 on the Richter Scale has hit southern Iran.

The conspiracy theorists have already blamed the "big bang" experiement!

#12 Ringo the Gringo

Not so. This Paulian is voting for McCain/Palin. Most of us are really disappointed with Barr's nomination.

re: #79 Nancy

Can we hope it is an IDF assisted weather even at the nuclear facility?

re: #81 orson

Bob Barr's candidacy reeks of some personal vendetta against the RNC.

#83 tradewind

Yup. And Cynthia McKinney ? I've read a lot of Paul's work, and it never has anything in common with what I've heard from her, so I have to think the entire stunt is just to stick it to the RNC. I'm sorry Dr. Paul, but I really believe the RNC has finally done something right (PALIN!), and you should drop this stunt, and support McCain.

This supporter has spoken.

Linkypoo...

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

re: #84 orson

I've read a lot of Paul's work, and it never has anything in common with what I've heard from her...

They may be coming at it from opposite ends of the political spectrum, but Cynthia McKinney's stance on foreign policy is the same as Ron Paul's - fanatical isolationism.

Well crap, that's about three votes McCain isn't going to be getting.

(On the other hand, they make enough noise for about 3000. So I guess we win all around.)

re: #44 experiencedtraveller

Well, at least we know Crazy Uncle Ron is alive and well.

/I feared he was holed up in remote encampment stockpiling arms and ammunition...

Hey! You don't have to be from Zeta Reticuli to hole up w/arms and ammo. And my encampment isn't that remote. :)

#85 Charles

Paul wants to open up trade with the people we are currently starving to death with sanctions. Is that McKinney's platform ? I think you may be exaggerating his stance, and I admit I am oversimplifying it for the purpose of getting it down. But I don't think his stance should be called "radical isolationism".

both obama and biden voted for the bridge to no were.
don't think they are in a good place to crit Palin.

Paul said: “The idea was that he would do less harm than the other candidate.”

"Anyone who has been following my campaign should know that is something I am opposed to. Not doing harm to the nation that is." Paul continued.

If he weren't such a nutjob I could almost appreciate what he does. Unfortunately he is a nutjob and apparently doesn't realize it isn't the 18th Century, 9/11 was in fact not an inside job, there is no coming race war, etc.

#85 Charles

I'll admit his even mentioning her was like seeing my mom with Dennis Kucinich.

Ron Paul --isn't he that cross-dresser fashionista? Oh, wait, that was Rupal. Same thing...

re: #19 Ringo the Gringo

The gesture of asking Paul for his endorsement may win McCain a few votes.

and McCain's unspoken response is probably "whew!"

Run, Ron, Run..spend all those campaign funds that might otherwise be going..not to McCain.

Ron Paul-retard makes me sick.

That Ron Paul. He must've been dreaming. There's NO WAY McCain's campaign would ask for this idiot's endorsement. He's just pissed off that he wasn't invited to speak at the RNC.

Ron Paul reminds me of a man dying of thirst in the desert who is offered a canteen of water and turns it down because it wasn't offered to him in a Baccarat Goblet.

It becomes more and more depressing, discovering what a large percent of our Congress Critters are absolute morons or worse...

Clearly a majority of them are not qualified or deserving of the power, trust and compensation bestowed upon them....