God willing our next CIC.

That beast Rhandi Rhodes could not be reached for comment.

Hey Charles, how 'bout putting the flag up on the header today?

Vote the Hero (and babe), ditch the Zero.

re: #2 loppyd

That beast Rhandi Rhodes could not be reached for comment.

She tripped and fell again.

/hiccup

re: #4 maddogg

Vote the Hero (and babe), ditch the Zero.

Damn, that demands a bumper sticker.

This is our choices a man who fought for our country and a man who fought against it.

I haven't always agreed with McCain, but I'm willing to forgive an awful lot in a man of his character.

The evil RethugliKKKans have built a time machine, and sent McCain back to make a new commercial, revising history and questioning our patriotism!

/obama campaign

re: #5 Ward Cleaver

She tripped and fell again.

/hiccup

She needs a healthy dose of STFU.

I'll be proud to have him as President.

THANK YOU John McCain.

re: #7 iceman1960

This is our choices a man who fought for our country and a man who fought against it.

Fights against it, you mean. Present tense.

re: #8 doppelganglander

I haven't always agreed with McCain, but I'm willing to forgive an awful lot in a man of his character.

After watching the video preceding McCain's acceptance speech at the convention, the BF said he didn't need to hear a word he was going to say. It sealed the deal.

video wont run for me

Notice the pronounced limp, but the Democrat's good friend, the N. Vietnamese Communist Community Organizers said they treated him well. He must have stubbed his toe going to the bathroom.

He is limping pretty bad there, isn't he? I cannot imagine having to endure what he did. Yet, somehow the left tries to diminish his heroism and suffering.

More courage, strength, and perseverance than I can even imagine.

Obama would have soiled his pants and sacrificed his virginity in the first week.

I question the timing.

God bless John McCain, and all the men and women who have served this country in the past and today- those who came back and those who went Home.

And God bless America.

re: #15 Guy_Philly

video wont run for me

Try it again, it takes a couple minutes to get going.

God bless John McCain.

re: #15 Guy_Philly

video wont run for me

Can you see it in SVT site?

SVT report and video.

re: #14 loppyd

After watching the video preceding McCain's acceptance speech at the convention, the BF said he didn't need to hear a word he was going to say. It sealed the deal.

I loved most of that video. It made his military and POW experience seem fresh, even though I've heard it a thousand times. I could have done without the "man of destiny" voiceover, though.

....and the scars to prove it.

Obama delenda est.

BTW, where can I get my PALIN 2016 bumper sticker?

Remember watching the guys coming home. My mother and I cried like babies.

He looks like Captain America.
I now know where Marvel got their male facial features.

Anyone catch the nut-job who called Dennis Miller yesterday ranting that McCain gave up/surrendered to the Vietnamese? Let's see, your plane is shot down and you have multiple broken bones. You're in a country who's language you not only don't speak, but whose people you don't look like. You're in jungle. You're going to do what? Sprint to the beach because Charlie don't surf? Please. When he didn't take the Admiral's Son special release, he held out. That's guts.

re: #24 doppelganglander

I loved most of that video. It made his military and POW experience seem fresh, even though I've heard it a thousand times. I could have done without the "man of destiny" voiceover, though.

I honestly didn't notice.

When McCain won the primary's my initial reaction was disappointment even to the point of considering voting for Obama, no laughing. One of the first clues for me to reconsider my position was an interview McCain gain a few after he was released. I wish I could find it, he was very impressive and came across as exceptionally smart. This was long before he was thinking of running for public office. It was hard not to admire him.

I do want a president who can and will say "F— you!" to our enemies and anyone who supports them.

re: #28 SFGoth

Anyone catch the nut-job who called Dennis Miller yesterday ranting that McCain gave up/surrendered to the Vietnamese? Let's see, your plane is shot down and you have multiple broken bones. You're in a country who's language you not only don't speak, but whose people you don't look like. You're in jungle. You're going to do what? Sprint to the beach because Charlie don't surf? Please. When he didn't take the Admiral's Son special release, he held out. That's guts.

Wesley Clark?

Can anyone translate the audio? I'm just wondering if there's something in that to put the video in (slightly better) context.

Can there be a bigger contrast between the two candidates for POTUS than this video? McCain the hero vs Obama the community organizer. What kind of video's do you think are out there with BO and his fellow organizers? Wish we could find one and post both on YouTube.

re: #31 jill e

I do want a president who can and will say "F— you!" to our enemies and anyone who supports them.

That'd be the day.
I think John McCain is more of a fatherly type superhero than a gritty wolverine.
John McCain's heroism is on a league of its own.

That gave me chills. I can't imagine what he went through during that time, but to imagine being told you're going home and to arrive home... It must have been a dream come true.

a few months

pimf

re: #33 vxbush

Can anyone translate the audio? I'm just wondering if there's something in that to put the video in (slightly better) context.

I was just about to ask the same thing.

Just watching him walk is painful. The limp is so pronounced.

I can't imagine what it must have felt like for him and the others coming home. I've read their words describing it, but ... okay, all I can do is cry today.

Hey, Dan Rather? I got your "courage" right here.

Did he go gray in those five years? I seem to recall the pre-captivity pics show dark brown hair.

re: #29 loppyd

Maybe it's just me. There was a moment, I think during the part about McCain crashing his plane, when the narrator said, "John McCain's life was spared. Perhaps there remained something yet for him to do." Considering how we make fun of The Chosen One, it seemed a little much. I agree with you that overall, the video was brilliantly done and very effective.

Did Barry'O make a statement about how it was a phony issue to discuss McCain's imprisonment yet?

Still no luck viewing it ... I'll take a look at it when I get home. I;ll echo the sentiment of others here though: "God Bless John McCain!"

re: #42 so.cal.swede

Did Barry'O make a statement about how it was a phony issue to discuss McCain's imprisonment yet?

Obama is the phony issue.

Stoicism

re: #31 jill e

And then punctuate the statement by bending 'em over, doing it...a right proper sodding....

That is a damn fine man, right there. Broken, but unbowed.

Rush: Barack Obama, you are no Jesus Christ.

What you notice about John McCain, that you don't see in most liberals, let alone Obama himself, is that even after being "forced" to go to war in the "unjust" Vietnam, being shot during "doing missions the brass knew would fail", and having been tortured and held in a P.O.W. camp by the enemy....he still LOVES his Country & does not see himself as a VICTIM!

That is exactly what America is about..... loyalty, self-sacrifice, and self-reliance!

G-d Bless America!

Returning with Honor.

I will say it, John McCain was a HUNK and a true HERO.

I am looking forward to the debates. From what I have seen, if you turn off the teleprompter, Obama is about as fluid as a drunk with a stutter. I know he is an intelligent man, but I am looking for McCain to clean his clock when they start asking questions and Obama does not have a nice scripted answer slowly scrolling in from of him.

I want the video of John McCain's Presidential Ingauration!

Her greatest hypocrisy is in her pretense that she is a woman.
Wow. Some of the comments are pretty funny.

re: #47 rawmuse

That is a damn fine man, right there. Broken, but unbowed.

Yep. He's injured, but not letting it show. He comes off the plane and salutes the officer there. No wincing, no complaining, just stoicism.

He'll make a fine CinC.

re: #25 Vaughn Beethoven

....and the scars to prove it.
Obama delenda est.
BTW, where can I get my PALIN 2016 bumper sticker?

just search "Palin" at [Link: www.cafepress.com...]

tons of great stuff there. my tee shirts arrived yesterday, and my second order is on the way! :)

Yeah, whatever. Obama thought about joining the military, but it wasn't butch enough for him! So there.

/official Obama campaign response

Has everyone mailed your tube of lipstick to BHO yet?

Obama for America
P.O. Box 8102
Chicago, IL 60680

What vexes me is that these people think it's positive to compare Jesus Christ with Obama ...talking about a messianic complex.

re: #39 MandyManners

Hey, Dan Rather? I got your "courage" right here.

Who?

re: #54 UFO TOFU

Her greatest hypocrisy is in her pretense that she is a woman.
Wow. Some of the comments are pretty funny.

What an ass the author is. She can't see the integrity in Governor Palin, who hasn't forced her beliefs on others, and the hypocrisy of Senator Biden who has voted against that which he claims to believe in.

Here's Google translation (slightly cleaned by me) on the webpage. My Swedish sucks and my English is not the best either so I apologize possible errors.

A unique film from the moment when the Republican presidential candidate John McCain was acquitted in Vietnam has been detected in SVT's photo archive.

Reporter Erik Eriksson watched between 1968 and 1979 for the Vietnam War including SVT's behalf. Now, he has written the book "I saw love and death" for his years in Vietnam.

The discovered film
It was during work on the book and the accompanying DVD movie this summer that Erik Eriksson discovered that in his large quantity of film, there were pictures of a young John McCain.

The pictures show how the first American prisoners of war released in 1973. Among the prisoners is John McCain, who was combat pilot.

McCains campaign in the United States has made a large number of that John McCain is a war veteran who was injured and tortured when he was in captivity during the Vietnam War.

Halter easily (? My Swedish dictionary is missing. Sorry.)
When his warhistory is portrayed in American television, pictures of how McCain meets President Nixon after having surgery for his injuries, damage remained untreated during his captivity are often displayed. (of this translation I am very doubtful. Take it with lots of salt)

Erik Eriksson's images from the release show a McCain, somewhat limping, saluting a U.S. officer before his departure from the Hanois airport.

(Picture text: McCain meets Nixon, Photo: AP)

re: #61 Sharmuta

Who?

LOL!

Pardon me for interrupting this thread of entirely justified hero worship, but I was wondering if someone could give me the correct translation into German of the phrase: I was only following orders!

I need it to mock a fictional moonbat. Thanks in advance.

Our son is waiting to join the airforce. The Airforce under Obama will not be the same organization as the airforce under John McCain.

Watching John McCain limp to the plane is painful to watch.

The miracle of it all is that he survived, and that he survived stronger than when he went in - he is NOT a broken man.

One Women, One Speech and the Entire Democratic party is in panicked Chaos. This is taking the fun out of it. I was expecting a fight.

According to the CNN profile, he landed in a lake - hundreds of Vietnamese watched him parachute down and then fished him out. Tough to escape that situation particularly with two broken arms and a broken leg...

He has earned it.

Found an online clip of a 9-11 song by an artist I used to know, she's since moved to MA and is into BDS I think but the song speaks for itself, player in upper left of the page.

Tuesday

re: #59 taxfreekiller

Of Some Note:

Had to order , in a loud voice, part of my unit not to fire on these "Swedish film crews", as they often were with the VC and NVA out on the trails. Had to ID them as not Russian advisor's, then we could not light them up, but my guys, said, f that. Had big trouble with this shit.

just saying, do not trust Swedish film of the vietnam thing

Thats how you lose a war, by not letting the soldiers kill the enemy.

re: #62 Honorary Yooper

What an ass the author is. She can't see the integrity in Governor Palin, who hasn't forced her beliefs on others, and the hypocrisy of Senator Biden who has voted against that which he claims to believe in.

You realize that the left can't read character - they are confused by it - their brains overheat when confronted with people of character.

re: #68 Colin Nelson

According to the CNN profile, he landed in a lake - hundreds of Vietnamese watched him parachute down and then fished him out. Tough to escape that situation particularly with two broken arms and a broken leg...

And then they beat the shit out of him. Not exactly a Disney Welcome.

Great movie although those sideburns don't quite look regulation; must have been forced on him by his captors. (Or is he a maverick?)

re: #68 Colin Nelson

According to the CNN profile, he landed in a lake - hundreds of Vietnamese watched him parachute down and then fished him out. Tough to escape that situation particularly with two broken arms and a broken leg...

And sank to the bottom - almost drowned.

re: #71 DistantThunder

You realize that the left can't read character - they are confused by it - their brains overheat when confronted with people of character.

Yeah, but isn't it fun to watch!

This magazine article tore me up at the time and it still does. Faces put to the names. I hope we never forget them.From Life Magazine, 1969.
One Week's Casualties, 1969, 242 KIA

Barack Obama is a mere fleck of dust compared to this man.

Hussein Husseinovich was thinking about enlisting...

re: #41 doppelganglander

Maybe it's just me. There was a moment, I think during the part about McCain crashing his plane, when the narrator said, "John McCain's life was spared. Perhaps there remained something yet for him to do." Considering how we make fun of The Chosen One, it seemed a little much. I agree with you that overall, the video was brilliantly done and very effective.

I believe in this. He also escaped death on that aircraft carrier when the missile hit his plane and 131 men died - 21 planes destroyed. i saw the footage of his jumping out of and escaping from the flames.

Not his day to die.

re: #35 Age Of Freedom

That'd be the day.
I think John McCain is more of a fatherly type superhero than a gritty wolverine.

For some reason, I can see Palin saying it.

Maybe it is that quality that Americans are either loving or hating...that we think it quite likely she would tell terrorists to f*** off.

Is anyone else having major problems with LGF this morning? Every time I attempt to post, reply or click a link, I get redirected to the main page. I also dont have the icons for linking URL, Bold, etc. If someone could report my comment so Charles can see it, please do.

re: #78 amphibian

Hussein Husseinovich was thinking about enlisting...

But no one has said yet that he would ever pass a security check?

re: #78 amphibian

Yes, but there was no war going on, so he bravely decided to go to college some more instead......If we use his logic, he would have enlisted if we had a war going on? Sorry Sen. Obama, but I think that is a load of "grade A" Bullcrap

It's time to beat Obama like a rented mule.

I'm sure they would interpret that as racist.

re: #81 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I am not having any problems today. But I am running IE6 and often do have some problems. But none today.

re: #66 DistantThunder

McCain has said he was broken by his captors. It's the strength and courage to recover from such humiliation and agony that counts, not that it happened. Everyone is broken at some point in his or her life. Not everyone recovers.

re: #81 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Firefox? Mine was hinky yesterday, but working well today.

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re: #81 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Is anyone else having major problems with LGF this morning? Every time I attempt to post, reply or click a link, I get redirected to the main page. I also dont have the icons for linking URL, Bold, etc. If someone could report my comment so Charles can see it, please do.

It's just you.

Senator McCain's positions differ from mine in several instances. However, in the end it is his conviction and willingness to sacrifice and ability to bear terrible burdens with grace that distinguish him as the type of character I want to see as President and Commander in Chief.

I think his strategists are brilliant to emphasise this part of his history given it is such a stark contrast with the blame America first crowd that dominates the left.

re: #17 Desert Dog

He is limping pretty bad there, isn't he? I cannot imagine having to endure what he did. Yet, somehow the left tries to diminish his heroism and suffering.

Now our friends on the left say that McCain was tormented, not tortured. I really wonder if Obama is asked if he thinks McCain was tortured if he could answer simply yes or no.

BTW, if this is below the belt today, I apologize, but this whole tormented versus tortured has bugged me for a while.

RINO tool calls Palin “cocky wacko”

…”People were coming into my office, phone calls were flooding in, e-mails were coming in, ‘I just sent money to Obama, I couldn’t sleep last night’ — from the left. To see this cocky wacko up there,” Chafee said to laughter.

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

Good riddance Lincoln Chafee!

re: #86 quickjustice

McCain has said he was broken by his captors. It's the strength and courage to recover from such humiliation and agony that counts, not that it happened. Everyone is broken at some point in his or her life. Not everyone recovers.

I read the US News 1973 article that he wrote. They completely humiliated him and broke him- and he came back from that.

John McCain is a real soldier, that is for sure.

re: #59 taxfreekiller

Going to be interesting to see how President McCain interacts with Putin (KGB) in the future. I know he has come to terms with the Vietnamese - but I don't recall a similar group hug with the KGB. I'm sure everyone of those prisoners knew who was asking those questions during those torture sessions. They may even have had eyeballs on the KGB/GRUn guys occasionally.

re: #91 classicLib

Now our friends on the left say that McCain was tormented, not tortured. I really wonder if Obama is asked if he thinks McCain was tortured if he could answer simply yes or no.

BTW, if this is below the belt today, I apologize, but this whole tormented versus tortured has bugged me for a while.

Waterboarding - torment?
HIllary or Obama as president? - TORTURE.

re: #49 WrathofG-d
Wrath, that's one helluva fine post. Thank you.

Fox just said the the DoD has opened up the farewell ceremony for the Alaskan Guard troops headed to Iraq. So if there is film that should be interesting.

re: #31 jill e

I do want a president who can and will say "F— you!" to our enemies and anyone who supports them.

Amend, sister.

mac :]

re: #83 Desert Dog

Yes, but there was no war going on, so he bravely decided to go to college some more instead......If we use his logic, he would have enlisted if we had a war going on? Sorry Sen. Obama, but I think that is a load of "grade A" Bullcrap

What. A. Liar.

re: #91 classicLib

Now our friends on the left say that McCain was tormented, not tortured. I really wonder if Obama is asked if he thinks McCain was tortured if he could answer simply yes or no.

BTW, if this is below the belt today, I apologize, but this whole tormented versus tortured has bugged me for a while.

Having one's arms pulled from their sockets and one's teeth broken out is "abuse."

Having the air conditioning too high is "torture."

I hope this was some help.

/DNC

re: #95 de La Valette

Many of the POWs mention, in their memoirs, Cuban interrogators . They were seen to be crueler than the North Vietnamese.

re: #101 Silhouette

Having one's arms pulled from their sockets and one's teeth broken out is "abuse."

Having the air conditioning too high is "torture."

I hope this was some help.

/DNC

According to Obama - evil is parents who mistreat their children - no mention of AlQueda or SAddam.

re: #97 realwest

I agree.....I do not remember McCain coming in front of a congressional hearing bad mouthing his colleagues and country after he got back....The Dummiecrats do not know what to do with an actual hero, since all of theirs are usually made up or propped up

re: #66 DistantThunder
My son is waiting to join the Marines. I'm begging him not to if obama is elected. He is still determined to go. I'm so proud of him!

Track Palin is deploying today- may God keep him safe and return him home unharmed.

#65 The Other Les 9/11/08 9:58:28 am

'Befehl ist Befehl', literally 'order is order'.
// Wiki, Nuremberg Defense.

re: #95 de La Valette

Going to be interesting to see how President McCain interacts with Putin (KGB) in the future. I know he has come to terms with the Vietnamese - but I don't recall a similar group hug with the KGB. I'm sure everyone of those prisoners knew who was asking those questions during those torture sessions. They may even have had eyeballs on the KGB/GRUn guys occasionally.

What Sen. McCain in Putin's eyes.

re: #2 loppyd

That beast Rhandi Rhodes could not be reached for comment.

Where has she been working lately? (Or has she been working lately?) What I heard from her on Air fucking America, when a fellow I was going to be working for inflicted AA on me, just made my blood boil...

Okay, we concede that McCain's years as POW may have been unpleasant; but how about a little sympathy for Obama, having to put up with all this 5-star hotel food? Eh? And sometimes, they've only been 4-star hotels, when he's had to visit these godawful holes in flyover country to make nice with the yokels (who for some unfathomable reason are allowed to vote)! So never let it be said that Obama doesn't understand sacrifice. He's lived it.

-Second Obama campaign response

re: #105 lopinslow

My son is waiting to join the Marines. I'm begging him not to if obama is elected. He is still determined to go. I'm so proud of him!

Why would it make a difference if Obama is elected? Serving in the Marines is honorable no matter what idiot is in the White House. And considering what a mess Obama will make of our security, your son will be safer in the Marines than at home.

re: #102 JHW

Cubans, etc were just proxies. I'm sure the on scene Russians avoided any American POW who might survive; but McCain knows and Putin knows who was drafting those questions and coordinating the propaganda with their fellow travelers in the West.

re: #83 Desert Dog

Yes, but there was no war going on, so he bravely decided to go to college some more instead......If we use his logic, he would have enlisted if we had a war going on? Sorry Sen. Obama, but I think that is a load of "grade A" Bullcrap

How come nobody has pointed out that it takes about 10 years to train an army and get it up to speed? It takes about two years just for an individual.
Training is kinder and gentler when it's done during peacetime.

Kinda the same logic as drilling for oil.

OT -- do any of you guys, or gals, have any idea what a .44 Mag Ruger double action would sell/trade in for? Mint condition.
It's a wee too powerful for me and was thinking of trading it in.

re: #111 Tigger2005
You have a point but I can't help but think of what Clinton did to them in Mogadishu

re: #77 zombie

Barack Obama is a mere fleck of dust compared to this man.

Which why he's resorted to campaigning against the women who is still kicking his ass.

re: #108 MandyManners

Thats as a Senator, wait till he gets the Big Stick in his hands. I wonder what Putin will see.

re: #77 zombie

Barack Obama is a mere fleck of dust compared to this man.

You mean, he's even THAT substantial? :D

re: #97 realwest

Thank you.

Days like today (9-11), and seeing what actually happens in this messed up world we live in (John McCain's P.O.W. experience) really put life into perspective for me.

It is amazing to recall the courage of those on Flight 93, John McCain, our Armed Services, and those ran into the twin towers knowing they could/would most likely die. If I am ever put into a situation like those I hope to have just 1/2 of what they have!

It also puts into perspective the things that we, and more specifically the Left, complian about on a daily basis.

re: #107 Tumulus11

#65 The Other Les 9/11/08 9:58:28 am

'Befehl ist Befehl', literally 'order is order'.
// Wiki, Nuremberg Defense.

That could work.

Thank you.

re: #106 Sharmuta

Track Palin is deploying today- may God keep him safe and return him home unharmed.

Amen, and all his brothers and sisters in arms.

re: #52 Desert Dog

Unless the 'o' gets some free shots (meaning he's aware of the questions before they are asked).

re: #54 UFO TOFU

Her greatest hypocrisy is in her pretense that she is a woman.
Wow. Some of the comments are pretty funny.

Wow.... for a religious historian she is painfully ignorant of the basic tennants of Christianity and how they apply to agency of mankind, forgiveness through Christ's atonement and unplanned teenage pregnancy. This is why the left so miserably misread mainstream American Christian's response to the pregnancy revelation and their respect for the Palin's courageous decision to face their responsibilities no matter how difficult.

She seems to be an expert in criticism of her chosen field of study but not an expert in understanding what she critiques. Of course critics are like people who hide in the woods during a battle - then run out when the fight is over to shoot the wounded.

I was going to comment, but let the academics wallow in over-informed ignorance and continue to feed their bad analysis to Obama and his ilk.

re: #28 SFGoth

Anyone catch the nut-job who called Dennis Miller yesterday ranting that McCain gave up/surrendered to the Vietnamese? Let's see, your plane is shot down and you have multiple broken bones. You're in a country who's language you not only don't speak, but whose people you don't look like. You're in jungle. You're going to do what? Sprint to the beach because Charlie don't surf? Please. When he didn't take the Admiral's Son special release, he held out. That's guts.

A year or two ago some historian tried the same tactic with Davey Crockett. Said he was executed by the Mexicans at the Alamo after surrendering. Like the only option was that Crockett threw his gun down and threw his arms up. The left cannot tolerate American heroes. The heroes of the left are always those who have fought against some aspect of America. It's the only thing that makes them a hero to the left.

God Bless John McCain.

re: #81 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I started having the same problem a month or so ago. Charles said to check my Java settings, which didn't help. Charles also told someone else with a similar problem that it sounded like a memory issue. I added some memory and some Windows service packs and it works fine now.

re: #104 Desert Dog
Well I'm certain that the Democrat Left Party has veterans who've served honorably and bravely.
It's just that they never seem to really rise to the top of the Left Party (Jim Webb of Virginia being the exception that proves the rule and Jimmy was Secretary of the Navy under Ronald Reagan, which gives you a good idea of where his heart was until he converted to the Left Party).

re: #106 Sharmuta
Respectfully Sharm, not just Track, but all of our troops.

re: #109 NomadOfNorad

Where has she been working lately? (Or has she been working lately?) What I heard from her on Air fucking America, when a fellow I was going to be working for inflicted AA on me, just made my blood boil...

A driver I was teamed with was constantly playing Air America.

I was off that truck in less than 24 hours.

re: #125 UFO TOFU

I started having the same problem a month or so ago. Charles said to check my Java settings, which didn't help. Charles also told someone else with a similar problem that it sounded like a memory issue. I added some memory and some Windows service packs and it works fine now.

Dumped my temp internet files, and cookies and rebooted. Seems to be working now.

re: #114 Alaska Kim

OT -- do any of you guys, or gals, have any idea what a .44 Mag Ruger double action would sell/trade in for? Mint condition.
It's a wee too powerful for me and was thinking of trading it in.

Around here (Arkansas) if it is in good shape I would say it is worth around $450.00. In Alaska, I should think at least $500.00.

Later, he was to lead a delegation to normalize relations with Vietnam...an American Nelson Mandela.

re: #130 maddogg

Around
here (Arkansas) if it is in good shape I would say it is worth around
$450.00. In Alaska, I should think at least $500.00.

I was thinking right around $500 too. Thanks!

re: #119 WrathofG-d
Wrath - just a little editing

It also puts into perspective the things that we, and more specifically the Left, complian about on a daily basis.

Hope you don't mind!

re: #104 Desert Dog

Heh.

re: #123 DaddyG

This is why the left so miserably misread mainstream American Christian's response to the pregnancy revelation and their respect for the Palin's courageous decision to face their responsibilities no matter how difficult.

They are so certain that we really are the judgmental assholes as we are portrayed in TV and film. So it shocks them when someone does something that we file under "Thou shalt not.." but we still forgive and love them.

The only way the LLL can see that action and make it mesh with the "truth" that we are hate-filled is to decide that we are being hypocrites, by forgiving that one person's sin when it suits our selfish needs, but we hate the rest of the sinners.

BTW, here is a pro-McCain short on YouTube that Limbaugh mentioned today. It looks as if it could be a TV spot for McCain, but it's a home-made, direct-to-YouTube thing. And it's great. Wait for the end and watch as the guy walks away for one of the more important points of the video... :D

re: #133 realwest

Edit all you'd like. But I wouldn't just blame "the left". Sure, I believe that the things they complain about tend to be more meaningless and petty, but we, the Conservatives, share, even if to a lesser degree, in this problem.

# 110

SWEET! I love the smell of pithiness in the morning. :o)

re: #131 DeafDog

Later, he was to lead a delegation to normalize relations with Vietnam...an American Nelson Mandela.

I don't know if I could have had that much forgiveness.

re: #124 HBob That story about Davy Crockett at the Alamo was based on a recently(relatively) discovered diary of an officer in Santa Anna's command. He specified that Crockett had been knocked unconscious during the fight and when presented, arms tied behind him, to Santa Anna and identified as a former US Congressman, Santa Anna ordered 8 or so of his troops to bayonette Crockett to death. Which they did.
Doesn't matter how the story is told, he died in defense of freedom - that's all that really matters.

re: #126 realwest

Well I'm certain that the Democrat Left Party has veterans who've served honorably and bravely.
It's just that they never seem to really rise to the top of the Left Party (Jim Webb of Virginia being the exception that proves the rule and Jimmy was Secretary of the Navy under Ronald Reagan, which gives you a good idea of where his heart was until he converted to the Left Party).

McGovern was one, B-24 Pilot in WWII with 35 combat mission.
Sen. Daniel Inouye. MOH with the 442.
Sen. Joseph Bob Kerry, MOH SEAL in Vietnam.

#120 The Other Les 9/11/08 10:16:17 am

. Good luck.

re: #139 Silhouette

I'm pretty sure I would not have been able to forgive. Johnny Mac is a better man than me. He's got my vote.

re: #135 Silhouette

They are so certain that we really are the judgmental assholes as we are portrayed in TV and film. So it shocks them when someone does something that we file under "Thou shalt not.." but we still forgive and love them.

The only way the LLL can see that action and make it mesh with the "truth" that we are hate-filled is to decide that we are being hypocrites, by forgiving that one person's sin when it suits our selfish needs, but we hate the rest of the sinners.

I have a recurring thought that started out as a private joke and now seems to bear itself out more and more in reality... that those who accuse others of hatred and bigotry are voicing their own feelings in some sort of twisted exercise in group projection. The Obama camp isn't doing much to dispell that feeling during this campaign.

re: #131 DeafDog
Yeah, well to be honest with ya, there are quite a few Vietnam Veterans who didn't appreciate McCain's gesture - but we'll vote for him anyway.

re: #79 DistantThunder

I believe in this. He also escaped death on that aircraft carrier when the missile hit his plane and 131 men died - 21 planes destroyed. i saw the footage of his jumping out of and escaping from the flames.

Not his day to die.

That's the incident the narrator was referring to, I think. It's definitely remarkable, and perhaps God did have a purpose for him. I just felt the narration was a bit heavy-handed in pointing it out.

re: #80 Silhouette

For some reason, I can see Palin saying it.

Maybe it is that quality that Americans are either loving or hating...that we think it quite likely she would tell terrorists to f*** off.

Palin is Wonder Woman hot, with that extra notch of grit towards the Islamofascists.

re: #141 jcm Yep, that's why I said "Well I'm certain that the Democrat Left Party has veterans who've served honorably and bravely."

re: #128 The Other Les

A driver I was teamed with was constantly playing Air America.

I was off that truck in less than 24 hours.

Good for you. This was a guy I was getting all groomed to go working for as a computer tech, but his business just wasn't really getting anywhere, for various reasons...

He at first seemed to be a fairly good Conservative, who listened to Limbaugh and talked about how he liked Reagan and stuff... but then he started listening to Air America via streaming internet radio, and after awhile I found myself watching him slowly move farther and father off into Left-leaning lala land. Now he hates W, has "Impeach Bush" and other such bumper stickers on his car, an "End the War in Iraq" placard in his yard, and stuff...

Where the fuck did he go wrong?!?

# 140 Realwest

re: #124 HBob That story about Davy Crockett at the Alamo was based on a recently(relatively) discovered diary of an officer in Santa Anna's command. He specified that Crockett had been knocked unconscious during the fight and when presented, arms tied behind him, to Santa Anna and identified as a former US Congressman, Santa Anna ordered 8 or so of his troops to bayonette Crockett to death. Which they did.
Doesn't matter how the story is told, he died in defense of freedom - that's all that really matters.

Here in Texas you can't throw a rock without hitting a building, town, county, etc... that has been named after Crockett. I imagine that once John McCain has passed from this world Arizona will have tons of monuments named in honor of him as well. I wonder just how many tributes will be left for Algore, JKerry and BO? Maybe some community organizers will name a park bench or something but really I don't see them being remembered much do you?

PIMF! Where did the r go in that second "farther"?!?

re: #147 Age Of Freedom
Someone should photshop Gov. Palin's face on the Wonder Woman figure on Atlas Shrugs front page.

re: #150 redheadredstate
Uh

but really I don't see them being remembered much do you?

who?! LOL!

Interesting he seems like he can Salute in this video.

I thought he had injuries that made that impossible. Did he maybe have some surgery or something later on that made it so he can't salute?

re: #152 UFO TOFU

Someone should photshop Gov. Palin's face on the Wonder Woman figure on Atlas Shrugs front page.

The rosie the riveter graphic is an instant classic!

re: #154 Han_Solo
Well it's a medical fact (according to his doctors - who, btw, released REAMS of papers on McCain's medical records while Obama had a one page letter issued by his doctor saying he was in good health) that he can't lift his arms above his shoulders.
I think it may be a result of his getting older, not having the adrenlyn rush of just becoming a free man again, or somesuch.

re: #148 realwest

Yep, that's why I said "Well I'm certain that the Democrat Left Party has veterans who've served honorably and bravely."

That's all I could think of. And they are all "old" democrat party.

re: #3 Ward Cleaver

Hey Charles, how 'bout putting the flag up on the header today?

Thanks Charles. That's the best header I've ever seen here.

re: #148 realwest

I'm sure there were. But it was the right thing to do for the country.

Weisenheimer, I fixed this for you. It wouldn't take a week.

Obama would have soiled his pants and sacrificed his virginity in the first week after missing his first manicure & pedicure appointment.

No girly men for Prez. I want a real man like McCain.

re: #149 NomadOfNorad

Incidentally, the guy I'm talking about here voted for W twice. :-|

re: #149 NomadOfNorad

Good for you. This was a guy I was getting all groomed to go working for as a computer tech, but his business just wasn't really getting anywhere, for various reasons...

He at first seemed to be a fairly good Conservative, who listened to Limbaugh and talked about how he liked Reagan and stuff... but then he started listening to Air America via streaming internet radio, and after awhile I found myself watching him slowly move farther and father off into Left-leaning lala land. Now he hates W, has "Impeach Bush" and other such bumper stickers on his car, an "End the War in Iraq" placard in his yard, and stuff...

Where the fuck did he go wrong?!?

Core values. You've to have solid core values, one you can check everything against, and build all you reasoning on. It's hard to get shifted off a solid foundation.

re: #28 SFGoth

Anyone catch the nut-job who called Dennis Miller yesterday ranting that McCain gave up/surrendered to the Vietnamese? Let's see, your plane is shot down and you have multiple broken bones. You're in a country who's language you not only don't speak, but whose people you don't look like. You're in jungle. You're going to do what? Sprint to the beach because Charlie don't surf? Please. When he didn't take the Admiral's Son special release, he held out. That's guts.

He was shot down over Hanoi and landed in a lake in the city. Its like being shot down over DC and falling in the lake in Constitution Gardens.

re: #158 Ward Cleaver
Really, very nice!

re: #163 Ursus Maritimus

He was shot down over Hanoi and landed in a lake in the city. Its like being shot down over DC and falling in the lake in Constitution Gardens.

He broke both arms and a leg in the ejection. He was not really in much shape to resist.

re: #162 jcm

Core values. You've to have solid core values, one you can check everything against, and build all you reasoning on. It's hard to get shifted off a solid foundation.

Yeah, tell me about it. He considers himself a Christian, but he thinks of the Bible as "written by man," and so is able to cherry-pick the parts of it he likes and ignore the parts he doesn't like, so when I tell him that in multiple places in the Bible it commands us to NOT have hatred in our hearts, he scoffs at it and tells me that we HAVE the right to hate the people that are WORTHY of hate... and then reminds me that W "lied to get us into Iraq," that Iraq was an unjust war, and so for that reason W is a murderer who will burn in Hell...

Vote for the Hero, not for the Zero.

re: #101 Silhouette

Not to mention Obama's comment that he had not "endured hotel food for all these months to come in second."

And that's from the man who wants everyone to believe he has the greater compassion of caring more for the poor and starving --the "have nots."

remember in 2004 that Kerry was the better candidate because the dems said he was a war hero with purple hearts and W avoided service because he was in TANG.Now they claim a con law prof. and organizer who hangs with Ayers is better than a true war hero.cognitive dissonance?

re: #88 jcm

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Charles has a great big flag up top!

Google seems not to have noticed the date.

John McCain would be a great pres. a soldier above all prays for peace for it is the soldier who must bear the pain and scars of war, god bless you john mccain . obama isn't good enough to be in the same room as you .

charles,
thank you for that BIG purty flag and the wtc in the background.
(not that i don't like the little bitty one that you often stick in the little 'e' in the word 'green'

re: #49 WrathofG-d

What you notice about John McCain, that you don't see in most liberals, let alone Obama himself, is that even after being "forced" to go to war in the "unjust" Vietnam, being shot during "doing missions the brass knew would fail", and having been tortured and held in a P.O.W. camp by the enemy....he still LOVES his Country & does not see himself as a VICTIM!

That is exactly what America is about..... loyalty, self-sacrifice, and self-reliance!

G-d Bless America!

DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER

JOHN MCCAIN IS A WINNER

re: #150 redheadredstate

# 140 Realwest

Here in Texas you can't throw a rock without hitting a building, town, county, etc... that has been named after Crockett. I imagine that once John McCain has passed from this world Arizona will have tons of monuments named in honor of him as well. I wonder just how many tributes will be left for Algore, JKerry and BO? Maybe some community organizers will name a park bench or something but really I don't see them being remembered much do you?

As I recall, Kerry already has a tribute in North Viet Nam.

he aged about 2 decades in those 5 years

re: #106 Sharmuta

Track Palin is deploying today- may God keep him safe and return him home unharmed.

THE OTHER DAY a democrat i was talking to went on the rant 'Bush children did not serve so the war was fake' when i said both McCain and Palin have 3 sons in the service 2 serving iin iraq. FRANKLY THE WHOLE BUSH IS THE SAME AS JOHN MCCAIN/PALIN is a total load of crap.

Joe Lieberman gets support for his fighting terrorist vedio on the web.

Joe put pressure on u-tube.
waiting for the ACLU's heads to explode

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Look how stiff he walks and how he limps. I thought that the POWS had such an easy time of it.

Sigh.

I can't imagine the horrors he endured. He had my vote, reluctantly at first, but now he has it with enthusiasm.

Boy, those salutes must have really hurt. But yet he did them. I salute him and those who served, but never enough to compensate them for their valor.

Mr. President

I read somewhere that John McCain's arms have stiffened up to the point that he cannot salute anymore. Is this true? He saluted fine in this video.

Following on #182, that's what occured to me. If he arms can't be raised now due to the torture, why was he able then to salute so neatly. I'm sure there's an explanation and it should be out there before this becomes an issue.

re: #103 DistantThunder

According to Obama - evil is parents who mistreat their children - no mention of AlQueda or SAddam.

If he feels that way why did he expose them to that "g-d damn" america pastor of his? Now that's mistreatment.

CNN is just covering this video now. Ha ha. Go LGF!

re: #61 Sharmuta

Who?

Sharm-- one upding your way for that one

Damn fine looking man. OK, I'm a red blooded American girl.

So anyway, I'm getting coffee and next to me a liberal mind meld erupts about Palin's alleged flip flop on the bridge to nowhere. So queen lib says, 'yeah, she voted against it before she voted for it.' Had to laugh at the ridiculous irony.

I'd like to she the archive video of Obama contemplating whether to sign up for selective service..

re: #165 jcm

If you misread my comment what I ment was that expecting him to escape was totally unrealistic.

re: #63 Purre
Your translation is pretty good.
The translation to "halter easily" should really be "has a slight limp" or "somewhat limping". There is an article at a Swedish newspaper, Dagens Nyheter (www.dn.se) that has the same basic text, but more elaborated. The point of the text is to imply that he only has a slight limp, so he really wasn't hurt much when he was in captivity. It's not said out loud, but it is insinuated.

The commentator in the clip notes that McCain is the son of a high military, and the question whether he received special treatment because of it is being discussed in USA today (ie 1973)

Here's an edited translation of the text:

A unique film from the moment when the Republican presidential candidate John McCain was released in Vietnam has been found in SVT's photo archive.

Reporter Erik Eriksson covered the Vietnamn war between 1968 and 1979 on SVT's behalf. Now, he has written the book "I saw love and death" from his years in Vietnam.

The discovered film
It was during work on the book and the accompanying DVD movie this summer that Erik Eriksson discovered that in his large quantity of film, there were pictures of a young John McCain.

The pictures show how the first American prisoners of war released in 1973. Among the prisoners is John McCain, who was a combat pilot.

McCains campaign in the United States has made a big show of that John McCain is a war veteran who was injured and tortured when he was in captivity during the Vietnam War.

Somewhat limping
When his warhistory is portrayed in American television, there's often a display of pictures from McCain meeting President Nixon after having surgery for his injuries, injuries that remained untreated during his captivity.

Erik Eriksson's images from the release show a McCain, somewhat limping, saluting a U.S. officer before his departure from the Hanois airport.

(Picture text: McCain meets Nixon, Photo: AP)

Also note that the pictures where taken by a north vietnamese photographer that had access to the airport, and later sent to the Swedish reporter.

re: #54 UFO TOFU

That piece was by a college professor? Did I miss something? Most of the comments I scanned through were pretty good! She gets skewered by most. What a effing twit.