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Tech Note: Spinoff Links RSS Feed

Science | Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 3:38:54 pm PDT

The links posted by the LGF community now have their own RSS feed, through Feedburner; here’s the address: http://feeds.feedburner.com/LittleGreenLinks.

There’s also a link to this feed in the left sidebar’s “Tools/Info” menu.

The feed contains the last 50 links posted, in reverse chronological order. The title of each link goes to its page at LGF, but there’s also a direct link to the original article for convenience. The domain name of the direct link is shown, to prevent surprises.

UPDATE at 9/13/08 3:49:36 pm:

For reference, we currently have three RSS feeds available at LGF through Feedburner:

LGF front page articles (w/ images and full text)
LGF front page articles (minimal w/ text excerpts)
LGF spinoff links

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1 Outrider  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:39:39pm

Quick feeds! Yeah!

2 spidly  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:40:31pm

wha?

3 zombie  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:41:02pm

So that means, someone can get a constant RSS stream of all the user-posted "spinoff links" -- sort of like a "lizardoid syndicated newswire"?

If so -- cool!

4 jcm  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:41:35pm
5 Globular Cluster  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:42:36pm

Charles,

Is there a mobile version of LGF so I can quickly check it on my BlackBerry?

6 Charles  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:44:37pm

re: #5 Globular Cluster

RSS is the best way right now...

7 Globular Cluster  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:45:20pm

..i.e., limited images, few scripts, mostly text, no embedded youtube, etc.

8 Globular Cluster  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:45:33pm

OK Thanks.

9 zombie  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:45:36pm

Now, if only I can figure out exactly what RSS is for, and how it works....both of which remain a bit of a mystery to me. I mean, if one wants to see what a site has to say -- why not just visit it? It seems to me that RSS feeds are similar to Ambrose Bierce's definition of telescopes:

TELESCOPE, n. A device having a relation to the eye similar to that of the telephone to the ear, enabling distant objects to plague us with a multitude of needless details. Luckily it is unprovided with a bell summoning us to the sacrifice.

It seems to me that RSS feeds are electronic versions of the same thing -- mechanisms to continually bother us with details we are choosing at the moment to otherwise ignore.

10 gop_patriot  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:46:07pm

I clicked the link, and then clicked the MyYahoo button in the "subscribe now" box to the right. It took me to my "My Yahoo" page, where a pop-up window then told me "this content is not available on MyYahoo". Is there something that I did wrong, or is it just not available yet, or..?

11 Charles  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:46:19pm

re: #7 Globular Cluster

..i.e., limited images, few scripts, mostly text, no embedded youtube, etc.

There's a minimal version of the RSS feed:

[Link: feeds.feedburner.com...]

12 debutaunt  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:46:32pm

re: #3 zombie

So that means, someone can get a constant RSS stream of all the user-posted "spinoff links" -- sort of like a "lizardoid syndicated newswire"?

If so -- cool!

Unmainstream Media!

13 zombie  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:47:14pm

Oh wait -- this is for links posted in comments? Or is it for "spinoff links"? Arbiter! Clarification?

14 mineral  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:49:19pm

I love the links here! I wish there was another LGF page that was nothing but links organized into categories. Like having four link viewers on a page or something...

15 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:50:55pm

Obama And 9/11

The July 20 issue of the New Yorker magazine got a lot of attention for its cover, which carried a "satirical" cartoon depicting Michelle and Barack Obama that Obama supporters found tasteless and offensive. Buried inside that issue's feature story, however, was a reaction by Obama to 9/11 that all voters should find even more tasteless and offensive.

The article reprised a piece published in Chicago's Hyde Park Herald on Sept. 19, 2001, and written by a then-unknown and otherwise undistinguished state senator from Illinois. The senator, a former community organizer, wrote that after tightening security at our airports and repairing our intelligence networks, we "must also engage . . . in the more difficult task of understanding the sources of such madness."

According to Barack Obama, the madness that drove terrorists to turn passenger jets into manned cruise missiles aimed at our centers of finance, government and military power "grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair."

/if elected, he'll get us all killed

16 Globular Cluster  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:52:17pm

Right now I'm checking the normal RSS feed on my BlackBerry and it works really well, provided I just "view description" and not "view story".

This is very satisfactory.

The minimal version doesn't seem to have adequate descriptions and takes you to the actual lgf posting.

Killer.

17 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:53:17pm

OT: (bringing it from the previous thread)
snip:


The investigation is intended to determine whether Palin abused her office by firing Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. Palin says she fired him over budget issues. Her foes believe the firing was due to Monegan’s unwillingness to fire Palin’s former brother-in-law State Trooper Mike Wooten, a man who has admitted to “tasering” his stepson, illegally shooting a moose and has been accused of threatening his former father-in-law with violence and drinking in his police car.


Snip:


Further fueling the GOP’s fire is the fact that former Commissioner Monegan and state trooper Wooten are surprisingly mild-mannered about this “scandal” that’s blown into a national news story after Palin’s vice presidential appointment.
Monegan told the Anchorage Daily News on August 30 that he was never pressured to dismiss Palin’s former brother-in-law. “For the record,” he said, “no one has ever said fire Wooten. Not the governor. Not Todd. Not any of the other staff.”


[Link: townhall.com...]

What am I missing here?
Why is there an investigation at to whether he was fired for not firing the brother in law, when the guy who was fired says that no one told him to fire the brother in law?

What is going on?

18 victor_yugo  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:54:31pm

re: #9 zombie

Now, if only I can figure out exactly what RSS is for, and how it works....both of which remain a bit of a mystery to me. I mean, if one wants to see what a site has to say -- why not just visit it?

RSS is an easy way to see what's current. Some relate to news, some to commentary, some to software releases, Six Apart even uses RSS to provide a current service status report.

The headlines on the left side of this page are provided via RSS. Indeed, I find Zombietime in the list. So this makes you both an RSS provider and an RSS consumer.

19 wrenchwench  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:54:50pm

"Little Green Links" is good, but in my head I've been calling it "Lizard Media."

20 Globular Cluster  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 3:57:09pm

This link:

[Link: feeds.feedburner.com...]

works awesome on my BB 8800. Perfect. I've never used an RSS feed on my BB before. It lists the items with tooltips and lets you expand/collapse each article without taking you to the content-rich page. Videos are blocked but images are not.

21 zombie  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:02:20pm

re: #15 Killian Bundy

Obama And 9/11

/if elected, he'll get us all killed

That is completely terrifying. That should be front-page news everywhere. Obama repeated the most loathsome of far-left canards, that our colonialist foreign policy and "poverty" were the root causes of 9/11 -- exactly the same argument put forward by Ward Churchill, Juan Cole, and the absolute worst denizens of the very bottom of the left-leaning barrel.

Obama must have thought that the "chickens coming home to roost" thesis would become the prevailing mainstream thesis, and got caught turning left when the entire parade behind him turned right.

22 Charles  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:03:56pm

re: #21 zombie

That is completely terrifying. That should be front-page news everywhere. Obama repeated the most loathsome of far-left canards, that our colonialist foreign policy and "poverty" were the root causes of 9/11 -- exactly the same argument put forward by Ward Churchill, Juan Cole, and the absolute worst denizens of the very bottom of the left-leaning barrel.

Obama must have thought that the "chickens coming home to roost" thesis would become the prevailing mainstream thesis, and got caught turning left when the entire parade behind him turned right.

Had this story here in July:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

23 gop_patriot  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:05:13pm

re: #10 gop_patriot

I was able to add the LGF frontpage RSS feed to the "My Yahoo" page, so I'm just assuming that the Spinoff RSS hasn't come through to Yahoo yet (or however that works lol).

So all is well at this point :)

24 Charles  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:05:50pm

I found that article quickly by searching for:

+obama +september

The plus signs in front of each word tell the search engine the results have to include both of them.

25 zombie  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:06:38pm

re: #18 victor_yugo

RSS is an easy way to see what's current. Some relate to news, some to commentary, some to software releases, Six Apart even uses RSS to provide a current service status report.

The headlines on the left side of this page are provided via RSS. Indeed, I find Zombietime in the list. So this makes you both an RSS provider and an RSS consumer.

Actually, only zomblog has RSS -- not zombietime. I only have it there because it came automatically with the blog template I used for zomblog -- otherwise, it would have been way beyond my capacities!

I suppose there are reasons people use it, but I always try to diminuate the millions of things that are constantly vying for my attention on a minute-by-minute basis -- not increase the white-noise factor. The last thing I want is a constant barrage of reminders to look at or read this or that blog or news site!

26 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:08:04pm

Bolivia on edge after martial law declared

Bolivia's leftist government declared martial law yesterday in an Amazon region where more than 15 people were killed in a wave of political violence sweeping the impoverished country.

In a decree, the government banned protests and meetings and said anyone carrying weapons would be arrested. It said more bodies had been found following a clash Thursday in which at least 10 people were killed.

Bolivian President Evo Morales met yesterday with one of four rebel governors who fiercely oppose his socialist reforms.

/hey Hugo, you paying attention to what's happening to your Bud?

27 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:08:05pm
28 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:09:47pm

re: #24 Charles

I found that article quickly by searching for:

+obama +september

The plus signs in front of each word tell the search engine the results have to include both of them.

/but now IBD picked up on it and other media outlets are reprinting it

29 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:10:04pm

re: #21 zombie

That is completely terrifying. That should be front-page news everywhere. Obama repeated the most loathsome of far-left canards, that our colonialist foreign policy and "poverty" were the root causes of 9/11 -- exactly the same argument put forward by Ward Churchill, Juan Cole, and the absolute worst denizens of the very bottom of the left-leaning barrel.

Obama must have thought that the "chickens coming home to roost" thesis would become the prevailing mainstream thesis, and got caught turning left when the entire parade behind him turned right.

According to Barack Obama, the madness that drove terrorists to turn passenger jets into manned cruise missiles aimed at our centers of finance, government and military power "grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair."

As if the answer to the attacks should have been food stamps for al-Qaida.

Sen. Obama advised caution and warned of overreacting. "We will have to make sure, despite our rage, that any U.S. military action takes into account the lives of innocent civilians abroad," he wrote. "We will have to be unwavering in opposing bigotry or discrimination directed against neighbors and friends of Middle Eastern descent."

We should also be just as concerned, he felt, with American anger and bigotry as we were about al-Qaida.

In an opinion piece in Commentary magazine, writer Abe Greenwald commented on Obama's belief that the 9/11 attacks were rooted in poverty and despair.

"Strange," he called it, "considering our attackers were wealthy and educated, connected and ecstatic."
30 zombie  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:10:37pm

re: #24 Charles

I found that article quickly by searching for:

+obama +september

The plus signs in front of each word tell the search engine the results have to include both of them.

One of these days, someone should put together a FAQ on how to use the LGF search engine. I still struggle with it myself. There are various old-skool and neu-skool Boolean search terms (e.g. using "AND" or "OR," or using the Google-ish quotation marks, or using minus and plus symbols, or using the Lexis-Nexis "pre/1" method, and so forth) -- but I can never remember which ones work with the LGF engine, and which don't!

31 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:11:21pm

re: #27 ploome hineni

Gosh Ploome: you do all that research yourself?

32 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:11:35pm
33 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:12:12pm
34 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:12:12pm

The previous thread just died all of a sudden. some people were talking about the "Coexist" bumper sticker, and one referred to version of that bumper sticker I created awhile back and have linked to on LGF a few times before. I posted it in the last thread, but in case anyone who's interested misses it, here it is again:

[Link: img504.imageshack.us...]

And here's my "Nobama" sticker:

[Link: img185.imageshack.us...]

Everyone is welcome to download & print!

35 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:12:22pm

I have to admit to being something of a Luddite when it comes to technology like RSS. I don't believe I need it, since my whole life does not revolve around the computer.

Here is something really ugly I found in the dead tree paper, which I bought last evening, and only commenced reading this afternoon. A snarky comment by an anonymous editor of the "Letters To The Editor" section of the Edmonton (Alberta) Sun in response to an entirely reasonable letter from a reader bemoaning a lack of balance vis a vis treatment of Obama and Palin: "Palin is an amoral, inveterate liar, so not much of an alternative to Obama's superficiality."

People have gotten themselves shot for less.

I put a link to this in the spinoff links section. The offensive comment is available in the on-line version of the paper.

Seems to me this statement is actionable. Can any of the Legal Lizards verify?

BTW, I did e-mail the Sun in response, and no, it wasn't my letter that triggered this spleen-vent from the Sun-bot.

36 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:13:28pm

re: #3 zombie

So that means, someone can get a constant RSS stream of all the user-posted "spinoff links" -- sort of like a "lizardoid syndicated newswire"?

If so -- cool!

Now there's hardly a reason to get news from the traditional sources at all!

37 zombie  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:13:41pm

re: #34 Tigger2005

The previous thread just died all of a sudden. some people were talking about the "Coexist" bumper sticker, and one referred to version of that bumper sticker I created awhile back and have linked to on LGF a few times before. I posted it in the last thread, but in case anyone who's interested misses it, here it is again:

[Link: img504.imageshack.us...]

And here's my "Nobama" sticker:

[Link: img185.imageshack.us...]

Everyone is welcome to download & print!

Nice!

38 victor_yugo  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:13:46pm

re: #25 zombie

Actually, only zomblog has RSS -- not zombietime.

Ah, I stand sit corrected.

As an aside, RSS (from another site) brought over 2,000 hits in two days to my most popular posting ever. That wide notice got mention in several fora which retain their contents and comments long after RSS becomes ineffective, and now I'm seeing anywhere between 10 and 30 hits per day for that one article alone.

39 itellu3times  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:15:13pm

re: #35 Alberta Oil Peon

Don't know nuthin' 'bout no Canada, but once you're a public figure in the US, it takes more specifics than that to be actionable, if you mean actionable in the sense of prevailing in court. I doubt it's much different in Canada, UK, or Oz.

40 JeremyR  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:15:24pm

re: #27 ploome hineni

McCain and an (almost) embarassment of riches

Obama is wrong on so many issues

its the economy, stupid

Obama Wrong? Couldn't be! those were not the issue he knew.

41 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:16:44pm
42 itellu3times  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:16:48pm

re: #40 JeremyR

Obama Wrong? Couldn't be! those were not the issue he knew.

If you embrace the Obamiac Rapture, mere food and drink mean nothing to you.

43 JeremyR  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:17:12pm

re: #34 Tigger2005

The previous thread just died all of a sudden. some people were talking about the "Coexist" bumper sticker, and one referred to version of that bumper sticker I created awhile back and have linked to on LGF a few times before. I posted it in the last thread, but in case anyone who's interested misses it, here it is again:

[Link: img504.imageshack.us...]

And here's my "Nobama" sticker:

[Link: img185.imageshack.us...]

Everyone is welcome to download & print!

I don't know what blog had it, but thanks for creating it. email me.

44 JeremyR  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:17:58pm

re: #41 ploome hineni

this is a very easy to understand article, that I recommend you print out and hand out to everyone you know

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Or email to friends who can read AND reason.

45 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:18:31pm

re: #35 Alberta Oil Peon

Seems to me this statement is actionable. Can any of the Legal Lizards verify?

Probably not.

/Palin is a public figure

46 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:18:34pm

re: #35 Alberta Oil Peon

I have to admit to being something of a Luddite when it comes to technology like RSS. I don't believe I need it, since my whole life does not revolve around the computer.

Here is something really ugly I found in the dead tree paper, which I bought last evening, and only commenced reading this afternoon. A snarky comment by an anonymous editor of the "Letters To The Editor" section of the Edmonton (Alberta) Sun in response to an entirely reasonable letter from a reader bemoaning a lack of balance vis a vis treatment of Obama and Palin: "Palin is an amoral, inveterate liar, so not much of an alternative to Obama's superficiality."

People have gotten themselves shot for less.

I put a link to this in the spinoff links section. The offensive comment is available in the on-line version of the paper.

Seems to me this statement is actionable. Can any of the Legal Lizards verify?

BTW, I did e-mail the Sun in response, and no, it wasn't my letter that triggered this spleen-vent from the Sun-bot.

If that kind of comment was actionable in the U.S., George Bush could have successfully sued a few hundred people, or possibly thousands.

I do think the McCain campaign threatened legal action against someone ... was it US Magazine? ... for their slandering of Sarah Palin.

47 JeremyR  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:19:15pm

re: #42 itellu3times

If you embrace the Obamiac Rapture, mere food and drink mean nothing to you.

And if I embrace an IED, air won't mean much either.

48 NC State of Mind  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:21:39pm

re: #43 JeremyR

I don't know what blog had it, but thanks for creating it. email me.

Jeremy-I emailed you, but got the sticker from Tigger's link-thanks though!

49 zombie  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:23:20pm

re: #38 victor_yugo

As an aside, RSS (from another site) brought over 2,000 hits in two days to my most popular posting ever. That wide notice got mention in several fora which retain their contents and comments long after RSS becomes ineffective, and now I'm seeing anywhere between 10 and 30 hits per day for that one article alone.

I'm utterly lame at promoting my site. I don't have any of the social-networking buttons, I don't have a blogroll, I hardly ever notify anyone of a new posting (aside from here at LGF). I don't even have a stats counter of any kind, so I have no idea how many visitors I get to zombietime or zomblog. Could be a tiny handful, could be millions -- I have no idea. But, I reason, what does it matter whether I know or not? Since I don't have ads, it would just be for ego gratification, which I don't really care about. I'd keep posting in any event, no matter how many people are looking.

Zombietime was never intended to be a site, anyway -- I never had any intention of having a list of my articles on the front page. My intention was (and remains) to have each report stand on its own, as a self-supporting monolith of factuality, on a very specific subject. I never imagined them being part of a "brand," a notion which contravenes my new media philosophy.

I only have a front page at all because I needed my own domain, and without an index.html file there, hacker types could poke around behind the scenes.

50 victor_yugo  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:24:06pm

re: #47 JeremyR

And if I embrace an IED, air won't mean much either.

I'd say the Dems' candidates are an
Incredible
Economic
Disaster

51 realwest  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:24:53pm

Hey all y'all - just a pleasant interlude in my day - I get to spend about a half an hour (or 4,000 comments, whichever comes first!) on LGF now!
Yea!
As for Obama and the 9/11 terrorists: wake up you fool Obama - the hijackers were NOT poor, nor did they come from a poor background nor were they illiterate.
AND even if they were, so what? WTH do you think we can learn from this psychopaths? They were cold blooded killers, sent to murder as many of us as possible by bin Laden (we have videotape of him saying that he sent them to attack the Great Satan for daring to violate one of Islams 11,365 holy places by having our troops in Saudi Arabia to roll back the invasion of Kuwait and probable invasion of the Magic Kingdom by Hussein). THAT'S WHY 9/11 HAPPENED you ignorant jerk.

52 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:25:06pm

re: #46 Tigger2005

If that kind of comment was actionable in the U.S., George Bush could have successfully sued a few hundred people, or possibly thousands.

I do think the McCain campaign threatened legal action against someone ... was it US Magazine? ... for their slandering of Sarah Palin.

You are probably right, but it sure as Hell seems like a completely over-the-top comment to me. I can see accusing a politician of telling a specific lie; it's something nearly all them do at some point. Campaign promises, even the best-intentioned ones, may be rendered into "lies" by circumstances arising after the election.

To call a person an "amoral, inveterate liar" is tantamount to saying they never speak the truth, or that they are a pathological liar. It would appear that this editor is a barking moonbat, to say the least.

53 itellu3times  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:26:49pm

So, rumor is that the engineer on the LA commuter train disaster ran a red light, was a replacement, and was maybe texting at the time.

54 JeremyR  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:27:52pm

Tig, shot one back to you, the one with the hate symbols.

55 zombie  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:28:31pm

re: #53 itellu3times

So, rumor is that the engineer on the LA commuter train disaster ran a red light, was a replacement, and was maybe texting at the time.

I heard the MetroLink engineer was the one who ran the red light -- but that's the first I heard he was texting.

The guy is dead now, but if true I suspect he will become perceived as a villain after the fact.

56 Tigger2005[deleted]  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:28:43pm
57 jcm  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:28:57pm

re: #51 realwest

Hey all y'all - just a pleasant interlude in my day - I get to spend about a half an hour (or 4,000 comments, whichever comes first!) on LGF now!
Yea!
As for Obama and the 9/11 terrorists: wake up you fool Obama - the hijackers were NOT poor, nor did they come from a poor background nor were they illiterate.
AND even if they were, so what? WTH do you think we can learn from this psychopaths? They were cold blooded killers, sent to murder as many of us as possible by bin Laden (we have videotape of him saying that he sent them to attack the Great Satan for daring to violate one of Islams 11,365 holy places by having our troops in Saudi Arabia to roll back the invasion of Kuwait and probable invasion of the Magic Kingdom by Hussein). THAT'S WHY 9/11 HAPPENED you ignorant jerk.

SILENCE!
Do not insult the Obamadhi....
I KEEEELLLLL YOU!
INFIDEL!

58 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:32:38pm

re: #35 Alberta Oil Peon

"Palin is an amoral, inveterate liar, so not much of an alternative to Obama's superficiality."

This is the latest Palin Big Lie: That she herself is a "big liar".

I was reading an art blog, followed a couple of links, and unfortunately found myself in the comments section of a blog posted by a political cartoonist who seems to epitomise the stereotype of the smarter-er-than-though Left Coastie... Lots of screeds in there, lots of "deep" discussion about Palin and what a "terrible choice" she is - somebody was praising a column by Maureen Dowd (!) - and I saw this idea of "liar" popping up in several places (I suppose to do with the earmarks question)... That stuff was bookended neatly by the "I don't understand these heartland idiots", USDA Grade A Coastal Arrogance.

I suppose that's a sign that things are slipping away for Obie, that his admirers are falling back into the Red State/Blue State knee-jerk bullshit. I think it boils down to raw insecurity. You just can't explain to these people that it's their own arrogance that turns people off. I speak as a born-and-bred Massachusetts Yankee here, I know what they think up there, and yes, Virginia, they really are out of touch.

"I'm smart and we're smart and we love a smart guy, but our smart guy keeps losing! Why won't they elect smart people? They all must be idiots! I have no other explanation!"

I won't link, but the blog is the second result in Google if you search for "brodner".

59 realwest  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:33:04pm

re: #57 jcm
LOL! Well I'm a PROUD INFIDEL! Seriously, as ill as I am I'd love, LOVE 5 minutes alone in a room with no doors that could be opened from the inside or windows with that sonofabitch (bin Laden I'm talking about; Obama might even be able to take me in the condition I'm in!).
But I was serious jcm - what the hell is wrong with the
Democratic Left Party's nominee for POTUS? How could he possibly believe the drivel that comes out of his mouth about terrorists?

60 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:33:30pm

Any Pennsylvania folk here right now?

Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are solid Democrat voters, right? How much of the population of the state do these two cities represent? Are there enough rural voters (potentially conservative leaning rural voters) to offset the city dwelling (mostly liberal) votes?

Any other big cities of concern?

TIA

61 HelloDare  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:34:21pm

re: #15 Killian Bundy

Obama And 9/11

/if elected, he'll get us all killed

Put that in context with this:

62 itellu3times  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:34:45pm

re: #60 Intrepid

Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are solid Democrat voters, right?

Yeah but more like Hillary democratic than Obama democratic, and they probably don't give two shakes about Biden, much prefer Palin.

63 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:34:50pm

Franken has been hammering Norm with negative ads.

Coleman is finally fighting back.

Angry Al

/that'll leave a mark

64 victor_yugo  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:36:14pm

re: #49 zombie

Zombietime was never intended to be a site, anyway -- I never had any intention of having a list of my articles on the front page. My intention was (and remains) to have each report stand on its own, as a self-supporting monolith of factuality, on a very specific subject.

However, the point stands that something, somewhere, needs to have a link to the report. Yes, you may announce new articles here, but should I come here to find out if you've written anything new lately? Or should I come here to dig up the link to the Gaza ambulance photo-analysis?

It's one thing to do such incredible research (and don't get me wrong--I couldn't match that level of critical thinking on those topics), but the information's ability to help and enlighten people is hampered unless it is easily "findable." The easiest way to expose the articles to the search engines is through "index.html".

65 jcm  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:36:58pm

re: #59 realwest

LOL! Well I'm a PROUD INFIDEL! Seriously, as ill as I am I'd love, LOVE 5 minutes alone in a room with no doors that could be opened from the inside or windows with that sonofabitch (bin Laden I'm talking about; Obama might even be able to take me in the condition I'm in!).
But I was serious jcm - what the hell is wrong with the
Democratic Left Party's nominee for POTUS? How could he possibly believe the drivel that comes out of his mouth about terrorists?

No shit. The (D)s have been hijacked by the radical leftists. With NOBama being of their own.

We'll see in Nov. if folks are waking up yet. If the margin is significant for McCain, we'll know folks are coming around. If not it's a long fight.

66 realwest  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:37:19pm

re: #63 Killian Bundy
Hey Killian - I wonder how close the race between Franken and Coleman is? I mean, are there any polls out yet in that state?
I'm still numb with disbelief that the Democratic Left Party would nominate Franken.

67 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:37:34pm

re: #62 itellu3times

Yeah but more like Hillary democratic than Obama democratic, and they probably don't give two shakes about Biden, much prefer Palin.

But but but.....Joe's from SCRANTON! He went to school with a lunch bucket!

Heh.

68 mineral  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:38:41pm

re: #59 realwest

Excuse me for asking... What do you have?

69 chukardog  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:39:26pm

anybody ever heard of these douchebags?

www.brasschecktv.com

they have a slimy hit piece on mcCain I would like to fiske

[Link: www.brasschecktv.com...]

70 jcm  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:39:58pm

re: #66 realwest

Hey Killian - I wonder how close the race between Franken and Coleman is? I mean, are there any polls out yet in that state?
I'm still numb with disbelief that the Democratic Left Party would nominate Franken.

Was it the end of the Blues Brothers where Al Franken ends up in a gorilla suit being shipped off as a gorilla's bitch?

I sense a campaign ad.......

71 Tamron  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:40:27pm

re: #17 Typicalwhitey

OT: (bringing it from the previous thread)
snip:

[Link: townhall.com...]

What am I missing here?
Why is there an investigation at to whether he was fired for not firing the brother in law, when the guy who was fired says that no one told him to fire the brother in law?

What is going on?

Honestly, take it from an Alaskan: NOTHING is going on! IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL. Tempest in a teapot, mountain out of a molehill, flash in the pan, premature gesticulation, you name it.

Check out this RECENT RADIO INTERVIEW with former Alaskan Senator Mike Gravel regarding this situation. He's definitely not in the McCain/Palin camp, so he has an unbiased viewpoint on this trash, and he has the same to say about it: LEAVE IT ALONE. IT'S NOT A BIG THING.

(Also note the whiny 'Rosie Perez' tone of the liberal interrogator, who is obviously under orders to to create some gossipy dirt on the Palin's.)

Moose season just started, and lots of hunting toys are heading out of town this weekend. Sorry, we just don't have time for Palinophobia. "That dog not only don't hunt, your Honor, he's a vegetarian!"

Peace...
.

72 CynicalConservative  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:40:56pm

re: #70 jcm

Was it the end of the Blues Brothers where Al Franken ends up in a gorilla suit being shipped off as a gorilla's bitch?

I sense a campaign ad.......

I think that was Trading Places. Good idea regardless....

73 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:41:58pm

In Office, Palin Hired Friends and Hit Critics : [Link: www.nytimes.com...] The latest Times hit piece is out. Pretty thin gruel cooked to look real, real sinister.

74 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:42:00pm

re: #57 jcm

SILENCE!
Do not insult the Obamadhi....
I KEEEELLLLL YOU!
INFIDEL!

75 realwest  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:42:49pm

re: #65 jcm
Ya know, I always thought that the Dem's had been "hijacked" by the more vitriolic, agitated leftists in their party, (like Kos, DU and Huffpoo) but the more I see and hear, the more I think that the true Democratic Party is that way and Dems who aren't the extremists are in such a distinct minority that they really don't have any "say" in "their" party's affairs.
I mean no disrespect to any LGFer's who consider themselves Democrats, but for me, that party should now be called the Left Party.

76 victor_yugo  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:45:00pm

re: #60 Intrepid

Electoral Vote.com shows Pennsylvania as a whole being "barely Democrat".re: #72 CynicalConservative

I think that was Trading Places. Good idea regardless....

Yes, Trading Places.

First movie I ever saw w/ Eddie Murphy. Laughed my ass off.

77 realwest  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:45:03pm

re: #68 mineral
Cancer. Specifically metastasizing prostate cancer. Which has been getting more and more aggressive this year and I anticipate that I'll be on radiation thereapy of some type by early next year at the latest.

78 NC State of Mind  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:45:43pm

re: #61 HelloDare

Put that in context with this:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Yeah, I love that video. So he will reduce spending on 'future weapons systems.' Great. Along with the Muslim radicals, can you imagine how much the Chicoms are lovin' this guy? They are building up a military as quickly as possible and we're on the verge of electing someone promising to tear ours apart. Instead, he wants us to look to China for their wonderful infrastrucure, the envy of the world.

The Daily Telegraph is reporting that China's industrial heartland is facing crippling power shortages, with more than a dozen provinces already rationing electricity. The country is suffering from its biggest power crisis since 2004, when a 40-gigawatt shortfall left three quarters of China in the dark.

Well, maybe not.

79 jcm  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:46:30pm

re: #75 realwest

Ya know, I always thought that the Dem's had been "hijacked" by the more vitriolic, agitated leftists in their party, (like Kos, DU and Huffpoo) but the more I see and hear, the more I think that the true Democratic Party is that way and Dems who aren't the extremists are in such a distinct minority that they really don't have any "say" in "their" party's affairs.
I mean no disrespect to any LGFer's who consider themselves Democrats, but for me, that party should now be called the Left Party.

That maybe, but I remember the old party, JFK, Jackson, Moynihan etc...

We are seeing the fruition of the 60's anti-war left coming age, coming into power and choosing their candidate.

80 realwest  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:46:36pm

re: #70 jcm
ROTFL! Y'all ought to send that "idea" off to Coleman's campaign! Preferably with a YouTube clip if you can find it!
LOL! I really like the way you think!

81 victor_yugo  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:47:16pm

re: #78 NC State of Mind

Along with the Muslim radicals, can you imagine how much the Chicoms are lovin' this guy?

Yeah, "the world" wants him.

They can have him, parcel post, COD accepted.

82 jcm  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:47:20pm

re: #72 CynicalConservative

I think that was Trading Places. Good idea regardless....

That what I think of when every I see Franken.

Trading Places... Thanks.

83 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:47:22pm

Minnesota Senate

/RCP Average 07/14 - 08/17 -- 47.0 41.0 Coleman +6.0

84 jcm  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:48:49pm

re: #80 realwest

ROTFL! Y'all ought to send that "idea" off to Coleman's campaign! Preferably with a YouTube clip if you can find it!
LOL! I really like the way you think!

With the right movie name....

85 BBEV  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:49:05pm

re: #59 realwest

LOL! Well I'm a PROUD INFIDEL! Seriously, as ill as I am I'd love, LOVE 5 minutes alone in a room with no doors that could be opened from the inside or windows with that sonofabitch (bin Laden I'm talking about; Obama might even be able to take me in the condition I'm in!).
But I was serious jcm - what the hell is wrong with the
Democratic Left Party's nominee for POTUS? How could he possibly believe the drivel that comes out of his mouth about terrorists?

I'll take that bet but put me there instead of you. Obama is going to kill this country or try to with his feminine way of dealing with the world (sorry for you strong gal's ) piece and love is all cool on a date but in real life it is not going to work.

86 victor_yugo  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:50:36pm

re: #80 realwest

This one?

87 Perry  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:51:03pm

OK, I missed the memo. What is an RSS feed and why do I need one? When I clicked it just now, my kids came in and asked for food. Oh, wait...

88 mineral  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:51:04pm

re: #77 realwest

Oh. ;-( Well, that's a bummer. I'm not sure how to respond, but we all know folks who make a full recovery. I guess Lance Armstrong had something different, but jeez he sure made a comeback.

I've seen your comments here for years and years, even before I started to occasionally comment, and hope to see them for another few decades or so...

You'll be in my thoughts...

89 realwest  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:52:41pm

re: #79 jcm
Well I remember the JFK, Moynihan and Jackson Dems too, but they genuinely loved and respected America - I honestly can't say that about the folks that the Democratic Left Party have nominated this time around. THEIR meme seems to be that everything in the world that's wrong is America's fault, when in reality, there has NEVER been a nation in all of written history that has given so much of it's own citizens' blood and national treasure to other peoples and nations as the United States of America.

90 victor_yugo  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:53:06pm

I don't think that's Al Franken in the gorilla suit, though. I think it's Clarence Beeks.

91 jcm  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:56:26pm

re: #89 realwest

Well I remember the JFK, Moynihan and Jackson Dems too, but they genuinely loved and respected America - I honestly can't say that about the folks that the Democratic Left Party have nominated this time around. THEIR meme seems to be that everything in the world that's wrong is America's fault, when in reality, there has NEVER been a nation in all of written history that has given so much of it's own citizens' blood and national treasure to other peoples and nations as the United States of America.

Absolutely no doubt about that.

92 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:56:32pm

Lib Photographer Admits Making McCain Look Sinister for Mag Cover

For months, people around the country have been noticing the always flattering photos of Barack Obama, and, by contrast, pictures that make John McCain either look older than what he is, or sickly...or even worse.

On Friday, the photography website PDNPulse published a virtual exposé about a professional photographer that admitted taking an intentionally diabolical looking picture of McCain that she hoped would be on the cover of October's Atlantic magazine (emphasis added throughout, photo courtesy The Atlantic, h/t NB reader Drew Hallowell)

/they're not even trying to pretend anymore

93 realwest  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:57:14pm

re: #83 Killian Bundy
Huh,

2004: Kerry (D) 51, Bush (R) 48
2000: Gore (D) 48, Bush (R) 46
1996: Clinton (D) 51, Dole (R) 35

well it would seem to be a pretty much "D" State, I wish Coleman all of the best luck in the world and hope Minnestonans wake the hell up - Senator Al Franken (wasn't he once on Air America?) is just WRONG.

94 NC State of Mind  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:57:57pm

re: #89 realwest

Well I remember the JFK, Moynihan and Jackson Dems too, but they genuinely loved and respected America

Back a few weeks ago I went and listened to JFK's 'Berliner' speech. As a 24 year old whose just read about these 'sane' Democrats, it was an amazing thing to hear. He was talking about being a freeman and defending freedom against agressors, and many other wonderful things. I don't think people in my age group have that sense at all about today's Democrat party. It's not like Bill O'Rielly always preaches that the nuts are just the most vocal. Most leftists my age have no concept of what a JFK Democrat is or that they ever existed.

95 realwest  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:59:01pm

re: #86 victor_yugo
YES! LOL! Thanks for finding that!

96 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:59:24pm

Barack Obama under fire for ignoring advice on how to beat John McCain

Mr Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, called it the first day of the rest of the campaign.
But that was the fourth time in the last nine months that Mr Obamas team have been forced to declare that the gloves are coming off. And Mr Plouffe's dismissal of Democratic doubts as hand-wringing and bed-wetting only served to reinforce the growing doubts about what some see as a bunker mentality among Obamas inner circle - where outside advice, even from highly experienced people, is not welcomed.
The Democratic strategist told The Sunday Telegraph: "They think they know best. They don't return calls. There are governors and senators calling them up with ideas. They don't get back to them.
"These are senior people from the border states and the South who know how to beat Republicans, and they're being ignored. They ignored everyone during the primaries and they came through it, so they think they can do the same again."

Read the whole thing.

/Hat tip- livefreeordie

97 realwest  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 4:59:56pm

re: #88 mineral Thank you.
That's very kind of you to say.

98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:00:04pm

re: #92 Killian Bundy

Shoot. I like the picture.

I think it says.... "Hey Jihadists. Bring it. I - will - f*ck - you - up!"

99 Karridine  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:00:21pm
Capital and labor gravitated to where the burdens were smaller and the opportunities greater.


Duh.
Y'think?

100 cliffster  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:01:25pm

My little 2 year old daughter, out of nowhere while we're watching golf, started singing "Proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free..." I'm going to have to give my wife a big hug because it wasn't me that taught her that.

101 Perry  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:01:45pm

What is the advantage of using a news reader?
/not getting it

102 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:02:50pm

re: #100 cliffster

My little 2 year old daughter, out of nowhere while we're watching golf, started singing "Proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free..." I'm going to have to give my wife a big hug because it wasn't me that taught her that.

"Proud to be her father, where at least I know she' safe.."

Good on you (or, as you say, your wife!)...

103 jcm  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:03:21pm

re: #101 Perry

What is the advantage of using a news reader?
/not getting it

It stays off to the side of the screen in a small window on your computer. It automatically updates from sources you select. Instead of you coming to LFG to see the links, the links come to you.

104 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:03:57pm

How is everybody?

My dog is at my feet, with a long-lasting (read: hour-long, at best) chew...

105 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:04:11pm

re: #100 cliffster

My little 2 year old daughter, out of nowhere while we're watching golf, started singing "Proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free..." I'm going to have to give my wife a big hug because it wasn't me that taught her that.

Awe - the lil' cutie should get a candy bar for that. Maybe about 30 minutes before bed time, just to keep mom and dad on their toes.

Heh.

106 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:04:20pm

re: #92 Killian Bundy

Lib Photographer Admits Making McCain Look Sinister for Mag Cover

/they're not even trying to pretend anymore

Jill Greenberg seems like a pretty unprofessional, immature, and nasty little b*tch, and quite a few Obama fans posting in the comment section of the original article appear to be the same, although that's no big surprise.

107 realwest  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:04:40pm

Well all, Mom just called "dinner" and I gotta go now, this sure was an unanticipated treat spending this time with you.
I hope I get the chance to see y'all down the road!

108 snowcrash  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:04:54pm

re: #98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Go to the link of the photographers other work. Terrible. This person had no business being chosen for the assignment by The Atlantic.

109 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:05:03pm

Taj Mahal singin' in the backround...

Life is good...

110 Perry  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:05:11pm

re: #103 jcm

It stays off to the side of the screen in a small window on your computer. It automatically updates from sources you select. Instead of you coming to LFG to see the links, the links come to you.


Oooo. Do I need a bigger monitor now?

111 cliffster  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:06:32pm

re: #105 Intrepid

Awe - the lil' cutie should get a candy bar for that. Maybe about 30 minutes before bed time, just to keep mom and dad on their toes.

Ooooh, I don't want a Child of Mass Destruction on my hands.

112 jcm  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:07:36pm

re: #110 Perry

Oooo. Do I need a bigger monitor now?

Monitor? I went to dual long ago ;-)
I'm on my laptop right now. 15" widescreeen.

113 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:07:49pm

"Further on, down the road, you'll accompany me..."

114 wrenchwench  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:07:55pm

In case anyone is still wondering what a "community organizer" does, here it is:

* reach out and work with communities in various ways.
* liaison with, and for, community agencies for service within affected areas.
* fight to make a difference.
* raise awareness.
* deal with community issues.
* raise awareness in the community of how we are making differences about undealt-with issues .
* when necessary, refer inquiries to outreach coordinators.
* Help coordination agency administrators identify and address outreach opportunities.
* model timetables and conceptualize benchmarks.
* issue guidelines for poster contests and interpretive dance festivals.
* Gather voter registrations, win valuable prizes.

That is from Iowahawk, of course.

/I don't know how I missed it before.

115 cliffster  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:08:48pm

re: #109 christheprofessor

Taj Mahal singin' in the backround...

Life is good...

A little while back, Clarence Gatemouth Brown was playing in my town. I was a little reluctant to go to the show, but I thought to myself, I'd better go because the man ain't getting any younger, I might not get another chance. I went and sure enough, he was gone a few months later. Amazing show, blues guitar, blues fiddle, voice was bigger than the room he was playing in. RIP

116 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:09:50pm

re: #113 christheprofessor

"Further on, down the road, you'll accompany me..."

The Last Waltz, Baby!

117 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:10:45pm

re: #115 cliffster

I have one of his CDs -- he did a great rendition of "I'm Your Steamroller" (not sure if that's the actual name but James Taylor did it)...

118 Tamron  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:11:49pm

re: #100 cliffster

My little 2 year old daughter, out of nowhere while we're watching golf, started singing "Proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free..." I'm going to have to give my wife a big hug because it wasn't me that taught her that.

Didn't your wife steal that line from Michelle Obama?
.

119 itellu3times  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:11:59pm

re: #96 Sharmuta

Barack Obama under fire for ignoring advice on how to beat John McCain

Read the whole thing.

Outstanding!

Mark Cunningham of the New York Post summed up the private views of many: "If it suddenly seems like the Obama campaign doesn't have any idea what it's doing, maybe that's because it doesn't."
...
Peggy Noonan, the former Reagan speechwriter, blamed the defection of women voters from Mr Obama on the atom bomb of ritual abuse by left-wing bloggers and Democratic officials, painting Mrs Palin as a bad mother and religious weirdo.

Ms Noonan wrote: "The snobbery of it, the meanness of it, reminded the entire country, for the first time in a decade, what it is they don't like about the Left."

120 Perry  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:12:16pm

re: #112 jcm

Even better!

121 pittrader1988  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:12:42pm

A friend of mine is Indian. This is precisely why he has switched parties.
He was a top fund raiser for Kerry, and now has switched.

Indians for McCain.

Asia is for McCain. Screw the
Europeans.

122 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:12:51pm

re: #116 Desert Dog

The Last Waltz, Baby!

Excellente!

/though not the same song....!

123 cliffster  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:13:12pm

re: #117 christheprofessor

I have one of his CDs -- he did a great rendition of "I'm Your Steamroller" (not sure if that's the actual name but James Taylor did it)...

"Steamroller Blues" if I'm not mistaken. I got nothing against James Taylor, but a blues singer he is not! I don't know that I heard the Gatemouth Brown version.

124 Tamron  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:13:29pm

re: #103 jcm

It stays off to the side of the screen in a small window on your computer. It automatically updates from sources you select. Instead of you coming to LFG to see the links, the links come to you.

How do you activate it? Does it start when you boot up the computer?
,

125 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:13:51pm

re: #117 christheprofessor

I have one of his CDs -- he did a great rendition of "I'm Your Steamroller" (not sure if that's the actual name but James Taylor did it)...

Now that I think of it. that was a different CD... He did a JT song, but I can't place my mental finger on it at the moment...

126 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:14:30pm

re: #119 itellu3times

The more he does his "attack mode", the worse it gets for him....pathetic. I really thought he would take McCain to the wood shed and give him a beating like none other a few months ago....now, I think McCain will win. Part of that is Palin Effect, but most of it is the voters are starting to see Obama for what he really is.....an empty suit.

127 jcm  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:15:00pm

Local Seattle news.... no link yet.
Howard Dean in Seattle. "WA is a battleground state."

128 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:15:17pm

re: #123 cliffster

"Steamroller Blues" if I'm not mistaken. I got nothing against James Taylor, but a blues singer he is not! I don't know that I heard the Gatemouth Brown version.

No, you are correct -- it was a different blues band. Can't think of the name at them moment -- but Gatemouth did one that was awesome -- "Don't think twice, it's alright" is a lyric in it...

129 jcm  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:16:48pm

re: #124 Tamron

How do you activate it? Does it start when you boot up the computer?
,

You need a reader, it can be set to start on boot. If you use google desktop, or have Vista or MacOS there are reader widgets.

130 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:17:12pm

Damn ... my cell phone battery is died. Or something is wrong with my phone. I plugged it into the charger and the startup screen came up briefly but it went dark again. It was still 1/3-2/3 charged as of this a.m., and when I plug it into the charger it usually runs off that power anyway. Wonder what the problem could be?

131 gettinby  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:17:36pm

Sarah Palin gives me the enveloping feeling of finally being adopted by a real parent instead of living as a foster child.

A quick hello to all the good lizards!

132 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:17:59pm

re: #130 Tigger2005

Damn ... my cell phone battery is died. Or something is wrong with my phone. I plugged it into the charger and the startup screen came up briefly but it went dark again. It was still 1/3-2/3 charged as of this a.m., and when I plug it into the charger it usually runs off that power anyway. Wonder what the problem could be?

Ah, here it is. Guess the battery was just really, really run down.

133 wrenchwench  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:18:20pm

re: #127 jcm

Local Seattle news.... no link yet.
Howard Dean in Seattle. "WA is a battleground state."

Duh.

Battle Ground, Washington
(I didn't know they spelled it with a space, though.)

134 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:18:25pm

re: #130 Tigger2005

Damn ... my cell phone battery is died. Or something is wrong with my phone. I plugged it into the charger and the startup screen came up briefly but it went dark again. It was still 1/3-2/3 charged as of this a.m., and when I plug it into the charger it usually runs off that power anyway. Wonder what the problem could be?

Take the battery out and put it back in (sorta like an electrical reboot)....

135 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:18:32pm

re: #129 jcm

You need a reader, it can be set to start on boot. If you use google desktop, or have Vista or MacOS there are reader widgets.

I have XP on my laptop and Vista on the desktop here at home, which one of these readers is best? (i.e. FREE...hahaha)

136 itellu3times  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:19:01pm

re: #126 Desert Dog

The more he does his "attack mode", the worse it gets for him....pathetic. I really thought he would take McCain to the wood shed and give him a beating like none other a few months ago....now, I think McCain will win. Part of that is Palin Effect, but most of it is the voters are starting to see Obama for what he really is.....an empty suit.

Obama has destroyed himself.

He only won this far because the dems loathed the Clintons, and the Hillary campaign was even more butch and nonresponsive than his - and at least, Hillary should have known better, she ran a competent campaign for reelection in 2006, tho I discount her campaign effectiveness in 2000 when Bubba was still sitting President.

Still, I can't quite see the Obama story as hubris, since hubris assumes there was some chance of winning in the first place.

... and neither do I want to encourage any hubris in any of us, including me, in thinking that this race is over before it's over, either.

137 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:20:29pm
138 jcm  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:20:38pm

re: #133 wrenchwench

Duh.

Battle Ground, Washington
(I didn't know they spelled it with a space, though.)

LOL!

Near Battle Ground.
The Mima Mounds.

139 cliffster  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:21:35pm

re: #128 christheprofessor

No, you are correct -- it was a different blues band. Can't think of the name at them moment -- but Gatemouth did one that was awesome -- "Don't think twice, it's alright" is a lyric in it...

I couldn't find a (legal) version so I could listen to it.. just this, where there's no preview. Is it a remake of the Dylan song?

140 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:21:49pm

re: #137 ploome hineni

take out the battery, and then put it back in..sometimes that works for me

maybe you need a new battery

It looks like the battery was just really run out. It came back after being plugged into the charger a couple minutes.

141 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:22:20pm

re: #127 jcm

Huh Huh! Just so ya know, I been there. Howard Dean prolly hasn't.

142 Pullus Iulius  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:22:56pm

Folks, every one of the major networks wants 0bama to win. Every one of the major newspapers wants the same. All of the trendy, intellectual magazines actively support the Chosen 0ne, as do the celebrity rags and the scandal tabloids. Hollywood demands it, as does (apparently) all of Europe, and the vast majority of the rest of the world. Is there any better indication that a McCain-Palin victory is what this country and this world sorely need?

143 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:23:27pm

re: #136 itellu3times

If AlGore taught us anything, it's that he invented the internet the earth is warming because of us he can levy a tax, despite a lack of Constitutional authority, on phone service that will last long after his VP service is over *, hubris is never a winnng trait in a candidate.

*Well, that one is true../

144 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:23:37pm

re: #136 itellu3times

I was waiting and waiting and waiting for the electorate to wake up from "the trip" Obama had them on. He has his hardcore supporters, but I don't think that alone is enough....what was it? Blacks, college students and eggheads (and most of the MSM too)? He is losing his luster among Independents and undecided. McCain can still blow this if he goes crazy. He needs to keep up the attacks, keep pointing out Obama's radical agenda and lack of experience and he can hold him off....it's still going to be very close....

145 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:23:40pm
146 jcm  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:24:08pm
147 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:24:23pm

re: #139 cliffster

That's it, but I thought JT did it as well...

/doh!

148 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:25:13pm

re: #142 Pullus Iulius

That is the usual coalition against the Republicans in every election over the past 30 years. This time, they are especially rabid and in the tank extra deep. I am hoping that fact will make them look pathetic, just like their candidate.

149 Karridine  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:26:06pm

re: #126 Desert Dog

The more he does his "attack mode", the worse it gets for him....pathetic. I really thought he would take McCain to the wood shed and give him a beating like none other a few months ago....now, I think McCain will win. Part of that is Palin Effect, but most of it is the voters are starting to see Obama for what he really is.....an empty suit.

Voters are seeing Obama as a novelty, who kept himself novel and new for 4 years, which is REALLY COOL! It is really something, very few have done it.

But that's why the Britney Spears commercials hurt Obama... and why he had to aggrandize and puff and inflate himself beyond belief, eventually turning back the sun to lower the seas!

And reviving flagging, tiring supporters by appearing god-like on his cardboard Mount Obampus when he KNEW he needed to NORMALIZE himself... but he was forced into overreaching for more 'novelty'...

And then, the NEXT DAY, McCain introduces the new, novel and CAPABLE Palin!

The 4-year self-promotion is over, Dog! :D

150 cliffster  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:26:19pm

re: #142 Pullus Iulius

Folks, every one of the major networks wants 0bama to win. Every one of the major newspapers wants the same. All of the trendy, intellectual magazines actively support the Chosen 0ne, as do the celebrity rags and the scandal tabloids. Hollywood demands it, as does (apparently) all of Europe, and the vast majority of the rest of the world. Is there any better indication that a McCain-Palin victory is what this country and this world sorely need?

I remember the day after Kerry ceded in 2004, some major British newspaper came out with a huge headline - "How Could 55 million People Be That Stupid?". So the amount I give a rat's balls about what England or anyone else in Europe is zero.

151 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:28:05pm

re: #136 itellu3times

Obama has destroyed himself.

He only won this far because the dems loathed the Clintons, and the Hillary campaign was even more butch and nonresponsive than his - and at least, Hillary should have known better, she ran a competent campaign for reelection in 2006, tho I discount her campaign effectiveness in 2000 when Bubba was still sitting President.

Still, I can't quite see the Obama story as hubris, since hubris assumes there was some chance of winning in the first place.

... and neither do I want to encourage any hubris in any of us, including me, in thinking that this race is over before it's over, either.

Good evening, Lizards.

I mom reregistered Democrat so that she could vote against Hillary Clinton in the PA primary, and she urged me to do so, too. I just couldn't bring myself to vote for Obama. Thank goodness Hillary won my town by more than one vote.

152 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:29:02pm

Am I the only one watching McCain being interviewed on Fox?

153 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:29:17pm

re: #142 Pullus Iulius

Folks, every one of the major networks wants 0bama to win. Every one of the major newspapers wants the same. All of the trendy, intellectual magazines actively support the Chosen 0ne, as do the celebrity rags and the scandal tabloids. Hollywood demands it, as does (apparently) all of Europe, and the vast majority of the rest of the world. Is there any better indication that a McCain-Palin victory is what this country and this world sorely need?

But ... but ... Jonathan Freedland says "The World's Verdict Will Be Harsh" if we reject Obamessiah!

P.S. I REALLY WISH Charles would give this article its own thread.

Until now, anti-Americanism has been exaggerated and much misunderstood: outside a leftist hardcore, it has mostly been anti-Bushism, opposition to this specific administration. But if McCain wins in November, that might well change. Suddenly Europeans and others will conclude that their dispute is with not only one ruling clique, but Americans themselves. For it will have been the American people, not the politicians, who will have passed up a once-in-a-generation chance for a fresh start - a fresh start the world is yearning for.

And the manner of that decision will matter, too. If it is deemed to have been about race - that Obama was rejected because of his colour - the world's verdict will be harsh. In that circumstance, Slate's Jacob Weisberg wrote recently, international opinion would conclude that "the United States had its day, but in the end couldn't put its own self-interest ahead of its crazy irrationality over race".

Even if it's not ethnic prejudice, but some other aspect of the culture wars, that proves decisive, the point still holds. For America to make a decision as grave as this one - while the planet boils and with the US fighting two wars - on the trivial basis that a hockey mom is likable and seems down to earth, would be to convey a lack of seriousness, a fleeing from reality, that does indeed suggest a nation in, to quote Weisberg, "historical decline". Let's not forget, McCain's campaign manager boasts that this election is "not about the issues."

Of course I know that even to mention Obama's support around the world is to hurt him. Incredibly, that large Berlin crowd damaged Obama at home, branding him the "candidate of Europe" and making him seem less of a patriotic American. But what does that say about today's America, that the world's esteem is now unwanted? If Americans reject Obama, they will be sending the clearest possible message to the rest of us - and, make no mistake, we shall hear it.

154 Cartman  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:30:09pm

re: #142 Pullus Iulius

I don't know why the MSM networks don't just come out and hold 24-hour telethons for BHO's campaign. They might as well.

155 cliffster  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:30:53pm

re: #152 Occasional Reader

Am I the only one watching McCain being interviewed on Fox?

wow, thanks for the heads up!

156 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:31:04pm

re: #153 Tigger2005

P.S. I REALLY WISH Charles would give this article its own thread.

He already did, several days ago.

157 NC State of Mind  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:31:24pm

re: #152 Occasional Reader

Am I the only one watching McCain being interviewed on Fox?

That's a rerun from 9/11

158 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:32:11pm

Good for McCain... they asked him about volunteerism, he said he encourages it, but let's not fall in trap of thinking that it always has to be run by the government.

159 Cartman  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:32:17pm

re: #152 Occasional Reader

I'm guessing a lot of us are watching OSU v. USC. I sure am.

GO BUCKEYES!

160 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:32:27pm

re: #156 Occasional Reader

He already did, several days ago.

I think he gave a somewhat similar article a thread of its own, but not this one. I'll search & see if he did, though.

161 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:32:28pm

re: #150 cliffster

I remember the day after Kerry ceded in 2004, some major British newspaper came out with a huge headline - "How Could 55 million People Be That Stupid?". So the amount I give a rat's balls about what England or anyone else in Europe is zero.

Coming from a country that has Gordon Brown as their leader, that is really funny.....he is their version of Jimmah Carter. I lived in the UK for about a year in the 1980's. I loved every second. But, I also came across a snootiness and snobby attitude about the USA and especially about Ronald Reagan. I got into many heated "discussions" with my fellow students. The left there is even worse that the left here...

We are not the UK, I seem to remember we kicked them out a few hundred years ago. They think we do not "get it". In reality, we do "get it", that is why we do not elected douche bags like Al Gore or John Kerry (sorry, can't explain 8 years of Slick Willie)

162 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:32:44pm

Okay -- I know it's early:

Super Bowl picks?

BCS picks?

163 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:33:35pm

re: #157 NC State of Mind

That's a rerun from 9/11

Och. So it is.

164 Typicalwhitey  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:34:46pm
165 NC State of Mind  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:34:53pm

re: #158 Occasional Reader

Good for McCain... they asked him about volunteerism, he said he encourages it, but let's not fall in trap of thinking that it always has to be run by the government.

Keep watching in the second hour. That dog Woodruff repeats that information to Obama and says something like "But we all know some kids just out of college can't afford to start programs all on there on."

It's one thing to repeat to him what McCain argued (a luxury McCain didn't have at Saddleback) but its another to rebut McCain's position in your question, DAMN!

166 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:35:01pm

re: #162 christheprofessor

Okay -- I know it's early:

Super Bowl picks?

BCS picks?

I have the Cardinals and Broncos in the Super Bowl!

They will be sitting in Section 104, rows 12-10, seats 1-40

167 cliffster  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:35:03pm

re: #158 Occasional Reader

Good for McCain... they asked him about volunteerism, he said he encourages it, but let's not fall in trap of thinking that it always has to be run by the government.

Hell yeah.

168 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:35:03pm

re: #162 christheprofessor

Okay -- I know it's early:

Super Bowl picks?

BCS picks?

1) I don't care

2) I don't know what that is

(I hope that was helpful!)

169 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:36:28pm

re: #166 Desert Dog

I have the Cardinals and Broncos in the Super Bowl!

They will be sitting in Section 104, rows 12-10, seats 1-40

If you bet on that and you are right, you will make some serious money!

170 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:36:47pm

re: #156 Occasional Reader

He already did, several days ago.

I don't think he did. I searched but can't find anything. Someone posted it in the links and I think Charles may have put up a thread regarding a similar article, but I don't think he's done one for this one.

171 NC State of Mind  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:37:01pm

re: #162 christheprofessor

Okay -- I know it's early:

Super Bowl picks?

BCS picks?

As much as I hate to say it, watch out for East Carolina to make a longshot bid for a BCS invite. I have to go with a friend who attened there when they play my alama mater next weekend, and its gonna be painful.

172 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:37:09pm

re: #165 NC State of Mind

and says something like "But we all know some kids just out of college can't afford to start programs all on there on."

Riiight, because obviously all volunteer programs currently are government-run, so if you wanted to do something else, you'd have to pay for it... there are no, say, church-run volunteer programs.... wtf?

McCain seems very good, very relaxed, on his game. He's going to do well in the debates.

173 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:37:24pm

re: #168 Occasional Reader

1) I don't care

2) I don't know what that is

(I hope that was helpful!)

Very helpful...

174 nyc redneck  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:37:52pm

re: #152 Occasional Reader

Am I the only one watching McCain being interviewed on Fox?

i'm watching 'reign of fire', w/gerry butler.
he just got torched by a firing breathing dragon.
:(

175 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:38:25pm

re: #171 NC State of Mind

Did ECU win today? I actually went there briefly...

176 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:38:30pm

re: #170 Tigger2005

I don't think he did. I searched but can't find anything. Someone posted it in the links and I think Charles may have put up a thread regarding a similar article, but I don't think he's done one for this one.

I could have sworn there was a thread... but I may be confusing it with someone linking it.

But you know, I remember Pearl Harbor like it was yesterday! (Odd, since I wouldn't be born for a couple more decades)

177 Cartman  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:39:40pm

re: #162 christheprofessor

Okay -- I know it's early:

Super Bowl picks?

BCS picks?

Dallas v. Indy

Alabama v. Missou

178 NC State of Mind  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:40:01pm

re: #175 christheprofessor

Did ECU win today? I actually went there briefly...

Unfortunatley yes, 28-24.

179 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:40:03pm

re: #165 NC State of Mind


Keep watching in the second hour[...] Obama

GROAN

Do I have to?

180 NC State of Mind  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:41:04pm

re: #179 Occasional Reader

GROAN

Do I have to?

PRESENT!

181 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:42:27pm

re: #177 Cartman

Bookmark it!

re: #178 NC State of Mind

Doh! I was hoping ECU would lose...

182 Cartman  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:43:19pm

re: #181 christheprofessor

The Missou Tigers look tough as nails this year.

183 gettinby  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:43:34pm

re: #174 nyc redneck

i'm watching 'reign of fire', w/gerry butler.
he just got torched by a firing breathing dragon.
:(

We're watching 'The Quiet Man' (John Wayne).

/no fire-breathing dragons, but the fist-fight at the end is a good one!

Have a very wonderful evening everyone!

184 Cartman  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:44:56pm

Well, this thread is dying, and I have no interest in the one upstairs. Back to the game!

185 callahan23  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:45:23pm

re: #146 jcm

Latest RCP toss up map.

Did post it this morning in the Overnight Open Thread.

186 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:45:39pm

re: #182 Cartman

The Missou Tigers look tough as nails this year.


I saw that they played today -- did they win? I have no idea...

/was on the motorcyle for hours...

187 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:46:23pm

re: #183 gettinby

We're watching 'The Quiet Man' (John Wayne).

/no fire-breathing dragons, but the fist-fight at the end is a good one!

Have a very wonderful evening everyone!

The short story is even better!

188 Cartman  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:46:39pm

re: #186 christheprofessor

They beat Nevada 69-17.

189 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:47:17pm

re: #176 Occasional Reader

I could have sworn there was a thread... but I may be confusing it with someone linking it.

But you know, I remember Pearl Harbor like it was yesterday! (Odd, since I wouldn't be born for a couple more decades)

That's OK, moonbats who were born in 1990 remember Kennedy being assassinated by the nascent BushitlerMcCainHalliburtonBlackwater conspiracy like THAT was yesterday.

190 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:47:53pm

re: #188 Cartman

They beat Nevada 69-17.

That was a statement... !

191 Cartman  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:48:14pm

Oh, man. Those USC cheerleaders are somethin' else!

192 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:49:24pm

re: #188 Cartman

They beat Nevada 69-17.

The spread offense, hard to stop.

193 Cartman  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:49:59pm

re: #190 christheprofessor

Granted, it's Nevada, but if they can even play a smidgen of defense this year, they're in the hunt for sure. I don't give my beloved Buckeyes much of a shot this year at all. Bummer.

194 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:50:11pm

re: #189 Tigger2005

That's OK, moonbats who were born in 1990 remember Kennedy being assassinated by the nascent BushitlerMcCainHalliburtonBlackwater conspiracy like THAT was yesterday.

JFK is Joe Lieberman (sp?)...

/if he was alive today

195 Cartman  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:51:19pm

re: #192 Tigger2005

Daniel to Macklin is about as deadly a combo as you'll find in college football.

196 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:51:30pm

re: #193 Cartman

Ultimately, it's just a game.

In the realm that matters, there is Sarah Palin...

197 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:53:48pm

I'm out...

198 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 5:58:52pm

From an earlier thread, I was trying to get caught up.
re: #171 Nevergiveup

I'd like to see the list of winners Rhodes has slept with?

Located, here's the lucky winner.

Otherwise, any big news today? Why hasn't McCain come out with a full bore response to the Technology ad?

Scene, the cockpit of an A4 attack jet, shifts to images of a busy Committee hearing and various high tech innovations, ending with FDR’s chair.

McCain: This used to be my office. Now I'm in the Senate where for 6 years I chaired the Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee. These days I serve on several subcommittees including the sub-committee on Science, Technology and Innovation. I serve on the Committee on Indian Affairs. Also I serve on the Armed Services Committee as the senior Republican I serve on all the sub committees. Obviously we deal with highly sophisticated and sensitive emerging technologies to ensure that only the best is found and developed to strengthen our nation. These Committees are all pretty busy and we try to get good work done in a bi-partisan manner. I should note that my opponent Mr. Obama also is chair of a sub-committee, responsible for overseeing our relations with an important part of the world but under his watch they have held no hearings at all.

It is true however that I do not spend a lot of time surfing the internet or typing on a keyboard. That need not be of concern I would think since the President, as a matter of security, does not use personal email or surf the internet. We hire people to do that for the President. More important is that I do not like to use a keyboard since I was tortured while a prisoner of war. I did not see before why it should be an issue any more than it was an issue when Franklin Roosevelt was President while confined to a wheel chair.

199 Palandine  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 6:26:43pm

re: #153 Tigger2005

As you note, this is a stupid article:

Until now, anti-Americanism has been exaggerated and much misunderstood: outside a leftist hardcore, it has mostly been anti-Bushism,

I went to Northern Ireland for the first time in 1993, when Clinton was President and the world was puppies and rainbows./s

I was a liberal at the time, but the rank anti-Americanism I encountered then started me on the path to conservatism.

Anti-Americanism was around during the Clinton years, and of course it was during the Reagan and Geroge HW Bush years. The author of the article is lying.

200 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 6:45:21pm

re: #115 cliffster

A little while back, Clarence Gatemouth Brown was playing in my town. I was a little reluctant to go to the show, but I thought to myself, I'd better go because the man ain't getting any younger, I might not get another chance. I went and sure enough, he was gone a few months later. Amazing show, blues guitar, blues fiddle, voice was bigger than the room he was playing in. RIP

Gate played the old King Eddy Hotel in Calgary, Alberta on several occasions. I always made sure to go if I possibly could, and I was lucky enough to meet him and shake his hand. A real fine gentleman.

Gatemouth Brown passed away in Texas not long after Hurricane Katrina devasted his home in Slidell, LA. I believe he died of a broken heart as much as anything. RIP.

201 ZardozZ  Sat, Sep 13, 2008 6:54:04pm

MOST AWESOME ---- Booked Marked !

Great idea.... we need to spread the word far and wide and this will help.

Thanks !

ZZ


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