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Open | Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:59:59 pm PDT

Darkness washed over the Dude - darker’n a black steer’s tuchus on a moonless prairie night. There was no bottom.

— The Stranger, The Big Lebowski

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1 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:01:20am

Darn, I was off by 3 minutes and one second. Good morning late night and dead threaders.

2 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:01:53am

it... has..... ARRIVED!

3 hans ze beeman  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:02:35am

Muslims: We'll take over Downing Street

He [Choudary] roared: “We do not integrate into Christianity. We will ensure that one day you will integrate into the Sharia Islamic law. Our eyes are on Downing Street.”

4 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:02:41am

And about time too. I tried, and tried, but I couldn't derail the last thread. Ah, well. Hope this one is more peaceful and nice.

5 cliffster  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:03:23am

Freedom. I push buttons, and buttons respond!

6 I slam Islam  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:03:33am

RIDDLE:

WHAT DO YOU GET WHEN YOU MIX HITLER WITH OBAMA?

ANSWER:

This is hilarious! I hope it goes viral!

7 Temujin  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:04:28am

re: #1 BlueCanuck

Darn, I was off by 3 minutes and one second. Good morning late night and dead threaders.

As I said on the previous thread -

don't you just hate being right all the time ?

8 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:05:30am

re: #3 hans ze beeman

Yeah they sometimes don't speak it but are a little more subtle about it.

9 Inquisitive  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:06:31am

.re: #1 BlueCanuck

Darn, I was off by 3 minutes and one second. Good morning late night and dead threaders.


Good morning and with that I think I will say it is time for this one to go and lay my head on a pillow for a little while. Thanks to all for keeping me company once again,........it has been very educational and entertaining as usual. Be well dear friends and prayers for all.

10 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:06:56am
11 Pshawalaw  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:07:24am

How ironic, I just finished watching PBS run the Billy Joel "The Stranger" video and then I come to LGF and find a quote titled "the stranger".

12 LotharBot  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:09:02am

So Charles, any chance you're going to pick up the latest Dan Rather story?

Dan Rather uncovers Martin Luther King Jr. memo endorsing Obama by name

(Written by my good friend Tim...)

13 cliffster  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:09:08am

re: #6 I slam Islam

I like the Cowboys version better. I was saving this Terrell Owens jersey for the superbowl!

14 Dahveed  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:09:57am
Darkness washed over the Dude - darker’n a black steer’s tuchus on a moonless prairie night. There was no bottom.

— The Stranger, The Big Lebowski

One of my favorite movies. One that can be watched over and over again and it doesn't get tiring.

15 Xenobyte  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:12:20am

So... now the islamists want to poison the water supply of Denmark (my country) and kill thousands as a 'retaliation for insulting the Prophet Muhammad through publication of the infamous “Muhammad cartoons.”'
Source: [Link: jamestown.org...]

Sounds like a fair balance - an insult vs. the death of thousands of random civilians... Yup, that's the RoP for ya! :)

16 TonyR  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:14:42am

re: #12 LotharBot

Nice find. A perfect nightcap!

17 Temujin  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:15:14am

Little-known SP fact #1173: Sarah Palin is the Fifth Horseperson of the Apocalypse.

18 Jinx  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:15:28am

But there's a full moon out tonight! And I sure as hell have seen it in everybody's actions today.

19 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:17:00am

re: #17 Temujin

The first four are Chuck Norris's fists and roundhouse kicks.

20 Colonel Panik  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:17:41am

re: #17 Temujin

Little-known SP fact #1173: Sarah Palin is the Fifth Horseperson of the Apocalypse.

No she is the first MoosePerson of the Obamaclypse.

21 rabidfox  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:18:03am

re: #15 Xenobyte

Well, I hope more than just the blogosphere is noticing that particular thread.

22 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:18:11am

Wow...came in just in time for the overnight thread.

How are the lizards in the path of Ike holding up? Are they incommunicado at all?

23 Pshawalaw  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:18:30am

re: #12 LotharBot

So Charles, any chance you're going to pick up the latest Dan Rather story?

Dan Rather uncovers Martin Luther King Jr. memo endorsing Obama by name

(Written by my good friend Tim...)

Surprisingly it isn't written in quatrains?

24 Temujin  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:19:26am

re: #19 victor_yugo

re: #20 Colonel Panik

Don't you guys know any better than to mention Comment # 17 ?

25 Neo Con since 9-11  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:19:50am

Bit o' sanity from the MSM

ABC's Gibson grilled Palin hard, but it may backfire
Charles Gibson of ABC News was out for blood and inherently applied a double-standard compared with the kid gloves George Stephanopoulos used on Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois on Sunday night.
26 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:21:04am

ploome hineni:

I answered your question on the previous thread.

27 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:22:07am

Anybody else miss Tim Russert right about now? I'd love to see a Tim R interview with Sarah Palin. Now that would be way better than Charlie Gibson.

RIP Tim Russert

28 Pshawalaw  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:23:15am

re: #24 Temujin

re: #20 Colonel Panik

Don't you guys know any better than to mention Comment # 17 ?

Why is that?

29 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:23:25am

re: #1 BlueCanuck

Well, I cheerfully concede that you were MUCH closer than was I!

30 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:23:34am

re: #17 Temujin

Little-known SP fact #1173: Sarah Palin is the Fifth Horseperson of the Apocalypse.

Heh - Horseperson.....that's funny.

31 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:23:51am

I saw my first real live burqini in disney worldre: #15 Xenobyte

where are you?

32 Colonel Panik  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:24:41am

re: #24 Temujin

re: #20 Colonel Panik

Don't you guys know any better than to mention Comment # 17 ?

And yea, it shall be that in the 8th Month of the Year of '08...that out of the frozen wastes of the North shall come a mighty Amazon Hockeymom warrior on Mooseback, wielding an M4 carbine, and striking terror into the hearts of the Moonbats.

The Obamaclypse and the Revelation of St. John the Aviator

33 Temujin  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:25:03am

re: #25 Neo Con since 9-11

Gibson himself interviewed Obama during the early primary season.

With the standard MSM kid-glove treatment.

Pompous, arrogant POS . . .

/Gibson, I mean . . .

34 Temujin  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:26:19am

re: #28 Pshawalaw

Why is that?

Ask Charles !

35 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:26:59am

re: #33 Temujin

Gibson himself interviewed Obama during the early primary season.
With the standard MSM kid-glove treatment.
Pompous, arrogant POS . . .
/Gibson, I mean . . .

Well, maybe THIS is the year it backfires SEVERELY, and helps in the Obama smackdown he's about to receive!

36 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:27:18am

re: #32 Colonel Panik

And yea, it shall be that in the 8th Month of the Year of '08...that out of the frozen wastes of the North shall come a mighty Amazon Hockeymom warrior on Mooseback, wielding an M4 carbine, and striking terror into the hearts of the Moonbats.

The Obamaclypse and the Revelation of St. John the Aviator

you can put lipstick on the seven seals...

37 Pshawalaw  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:27:40am

re: #34 Temujin

Ask Charles !

And the mystery continues.....

38 Dekar  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:28:06am

Big Lebowski quote, HAHAH! bravo!

39 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:29:17am

re: #37 Pshawalaw

But of course. What's any institution without a little mystery?

40 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:29:58am

re: #14 Dahveed

One of my favorite movies. One that can be watched over and over again and it doesn't get tiring.

Saturday, Donny, is Shabbos, the Jewish day of rest. That means that I don't work, I don't get in a car, I don't fucking ride in a car, I don't pick up the phone, I don't turn on the oven, and I sure as shit don't fucking roll! Shomer shabbos!

41 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:30:07am

re: #37 Pshawalaw

Its kinda an inside joke, of the non sequitur kind... It began several years ago and became a Rotating Title, (upper left) Pshaw...

It refers NOW to, ah, well. you see... lemme call Obama, he'll know!

42 Pshawalaw  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:30:36am

re: #39 BlueCanuck

But of course. What's any institution without a little mystery?

Scientific, maybe?

43 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:30:37am

From the Atlanta Journal/Constitution - "Panic Sets in for Obama"

Heh heh heh

44 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:32:35am

Karridine:

How are things on the street over there?

45 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:32:35am

re: #43 Intrepid

I read that already, Intrepid! GREAT!

Note how commenters FLAY the writer, as if he's not only wrong but vile, accursed and hypocritical for noticing the obvious, PUBLICLY!

46 Pshawalaw  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:34:02am

re: #43 Intrepid

Love this paragraph from that article:


For a “change” candidate, Obama appears to be a man locked in time, unable to move past criticism, unable to move from the grip of the Democratic left, unable to adapt to the changed reality that the campaign is not the referendum on the war in Iraq or on the administration of George W. Bush that he’d envisioned.
47 Spirit93  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:34:40am

re: #28 Pshawalaw

It's in the LGF dictionary, under "tools" in the sidebar.

48 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:35:23am

re: #44 victor_yugo

Wet.

Heavy rains, three days running, scattered cloudbursts today.

Which adds to the misery of those 'protesters' illegally hijacking Thai government... fcrew them! They're STILL lousing up cross-town traffic, STILL bullying the unions, STILL ruining Thai tourism and STILL awaiting the selection of a new prime minister now that they've ousted TWO in three years!

*spit!*

49 Dekar  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:35:33am

Walter: If you will it, it is no dream

Dude: Ur f'in 20 minutes late man, wtf is that

Walter: Theodore Hertzl

Dude: Huh?

Walter: State of Israel, if you will it Dude, it is no dream

Dude: What the f are you talking about man the carrier, whats in the carrier

Walter: huh? OH! Cynthia's dog. I think it's a pomeranian. Can't leave it home alone or it eats the furniture.

50 cliffster  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:36:43am

re: #43 Intrepid

From the Atlanta Journal/Constitution - "Panic Sets in for Obama"

Heh heh heh

"It’s not over. But it’s getting there — and Obama knows it."

That was pretty.. thanks

51 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:36:50am

re: #49 Dekar

The Dude abides.

A lot.

52 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:36:51am

re: #45 Karridine

Hey Karradine - how goes it there in Bangkok? What part of town are you in?

53 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:37:46am

re: #52 Intrepid

See #48 above.

54 Dahveed  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:38:42am

re: #40 spidly

The Big Lebowski: What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?
The Dude: Dude.
The Big Lebowski: Huh?
The Dude: Uhh... I don't know sir.
The Big Lebowski: Is it being prepared to do the right thing, whatever the cost? Isn't that what makes a man?
The Dude: Hmmm... Sure, that and a pair of testicles.

55 cliffster  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:39:40am

re: #54 Dahveed

The Big Lebowski: What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?
The Dude: Dude.
The Big Lebowski: Huh?
The Dude: Uhh... I don't know sir.
The Big Lebowski: Is it being prepared to do the right thing, whatever the cost? Isn't that what makes a man?
The Dude: Hmmm... Sure, that and a pair of testicles.

Nobody fucks with the jesus!

56 Pshawalaw  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:40:11am

re: #47 Spirit93

Thank you, another mystery revealed.

57 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:40:49am

re: #53 victor_yugo

See #48 above.

Got it - but I was just wondering exactly where he was, in office or at home. No biggie.

I know the city a bit, and I was just wondering. Since I lived there for about a decade.

58 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:43:11am

re: #52 Intrepid

See #48, Intrepid, and I live out in the Bangkapi area... near a Mall and a Lotus-Tesco and a Major Cineplex.

Uhhh, no. There's no longer much fish-heads and rice-bowls around here... :D

59 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:43:46am

if anyone wants my opinion, Vista is a complete POS.

the local power people at least partially fried my PC yesterday.

60 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:43:49am
For a “change” candidate, Obama appears to be a man locked in time, unable to move past criticism, unable to move from the grip of the Democratic left, unable to adapt to the changed reality that the campaign is not the referendum on the war in Iraq or on the administration of George W. Bush that he’d envisioned.

still a bunch out there really excited that Obama just may beat George Bush this time around

61 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:44:37am

re: #57 Intrepid

In that case, I'm typing from home. When I comment from work, I log in as Carridine.

And thank you for your service here, in His service...

62 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:45:11am

re: #21 rabidfox

you in DK now?

63 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:45:46am

re: #58 Karridine

See #48, Intrepid, and I live out in the Bangkapi area... near a Mall and a Lotus-Tesco and a Major Cineplex.

Uhhh, no. There's no longer much fish-heads and rice-bowls around here... :D

Hee - I studied for my P. 6 test with a teacher who was close to Bangkapi. Ever heard of Khru Benja?

64 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:46:02am

re: #60 spidly

And they's gonna be excited right up until the time that Obama publicly declares that the 42 states which went Republican were racist, bigoted and anti-American...

He's TOAST, Spid!

65 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:46:25am

re: #59 redc1c4

How can you partially fry a PC? Thought it was all or nothing. Good to see you red. Up to your usual shenanigans?

66 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:46:26am

re: #60 spidly

and some of them are even my friends..... i don't bother arguing, i just smile.

did y'all see the picket sign in this post?
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

67 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:47:17am

re: #63 Intrepid

No, nor has my wife. Tell me more?

68 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:48:29am

re: #64 Karridine

And they's gonna be excited right up until the time that Obama publicly declares that the 42 states which went Republican were racist, bigoted and anti-American...

He's TOAST, Spid!

then begins the riots. everyone topped off their ammo supply?

69 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:49:37am

re: #24 Temujin

*whack*

You mentioned it again!

70 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:49:57am

re: #68 spidly

Unfortunately, you just might be right, but I'm hoping I'm wrong about him, and Obama concedes with at least a modicum of class.

71 rabidfox  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:50:10am

re: #62 spidly Huh? What's DK, please?

72 cliffster  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:51:01am

re: #68 spidly

then begins the riots. everyone topped off their ammo supply?

Funny, but not funny. Remember Rodney King. Ugh

73 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:51:24am

re: #69 MandyManners

Hey Mandy, I thought you went to bed?

/time to be on my best behaviour.

74 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:51:56am

re: #71 rabidfox

Huh? What's DK, please?

dejlige lille Danmark

75 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:52:09am

re: #65 BlueCanuck

How can you partially fry a PC? Thought it was all or nothing. Good to see you red. Up to your usual shenanigans?

not sure what happened: i saw the trucks and went outside to chat, and they assured me the power was going to stay on.

a little later, i was answering an email when the screen went black, along with everything else. it seems someone made a change in the lines but didn't note it on the charts.

power came back, but the PC wouldn't generate a pic. you could hear it boot, but no vid. draged out a relic and got on line. found a recyucler in deepest south OC that had a similar board to mine, so i drove down there on a fryday afternoon, when i was supposed to be studying.

got home, but coudn't get that board to even spin, so this AM we went and got a new PC. didn't have time to do anything but start it up before class, hence my Vista mini-rant above.

went to my old HS after school, but there was nothing worth the visit, so we had an earlyt dinner and came home to watch USC dismantle OSU.

a little TV, a few beers and now to bed, so i can do more school tomorrow.

/but first, tyhe fruitcup! %-)

76 rabidfox  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:52:11am

re: #70 Karridine

It'd be nice, but I'm not sure his wife will let him have class.

77 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:53:00am

First, he called Palin a pig. Then, he made fun of McCain's disabilities.

KEEP IT UP, BHO!

78 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:53:15am

re: #70 Karridine

Unfortunately, you just might be right, but I'm hoping I'm wrong about him, and Obama concedes with at least a modicum of class.

he'd have to have class to exhibit any.

79 Temujin  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:53:16am

re: #69 MandyManners

Oops!

My bad . . .

80 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:53:29am

re: #70 Karridine

Unfortunately, you just might be right, but I'm hoping I'm wrong about him, and Obama concedes with at least a modicum of class.

wont matter if he does, they'll tear shit up.
should make a McCain-Palin lawnsign/claymore

81 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:53:53am

re: #77 MandyManners

First, he called Palin a pig. Then, he made fun of McCain's disabilities.

KEEP IT UP, BHO!

wait'll he tries to teach a pig to sing......

82 cliffster  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:54:13am

re: #77 MandyManners

First, he called Palin a pig. Then, he made fun of McCain's disabilities.

KEEP IT UP, BHO!

There's still lots of time before the election. Right now he's shoring up the 5th grade bully vote.

83 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:54:35am

re: #67 Karridine

No, nor has my wife. Tell me more?

She used to teach at Union, but went out on her own. She teaches in her home, and she is one of the most excellent teachers I have ever encountered. She is good. She can gauge a person's language ability, and then see what it will take to get that person to P.6 proficiency. If she can do it, she'll tell you. If she knows she cannot, she'll tell you that too.

She's expensive - I paid 600 baht per hour with two other friends, but all three of us passed and with flying colors. Studied 3 hours per day, three days per week. And did homework. Golly, did I do homework!

Best teacher I've ever seen, in the US or in Thailand.

84 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:55:25am

re: #69 MandyManners

*whack*

You mentioned it again!

he mentioned Comment #17?

i'll get the comfy chair!

85 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:55:44am

re: #75 redc1c4

Wow, sounds like an interesting day. Just remember the decoys are that away ↑ ↓ ← → .

86 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:58:11am

re: #80 spidly

wont matter if he does, they'll tear shit up.
should make a McCain-Palin lawnsign/claymore

there's many in my AO who are supporters, but i can't see them rioting.... making really bad movies & TV shows about it? yes..... whinning? yes.

getting in my face & threatening me? even they're not that dumb......

/although i did have a BDS sufferer ring the door bell one day. %-)

87 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:59:32am

re: #85 BlueCanuck

Wow, sounds like an interesting day. Just remember the decoys are that away ↑ ↓ ← → .

no problem: i always dose those with Obecalp before i go on to the real deal.

88 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:00:04am

Intrepid:

Please see the previous thread. I had an answer to you prepared, but it got interrupted by another, more immediate concern.

89 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:00:17am

re: #73 BlueCanuck

I did but I couldn't sleep. My mom took The Kid to Wal*Mart today, and I took a nap. He spent part of his allowance in the game room then--despite her telling him not to leave it--he took off for the electronics' department. When she got checked out, he was not to be found, and at that minute the store's PA system went dead. Instead of using her head and remembering what I've said about his going to that department after I let him play in the game room, she freaked out. So, people had to be dispatched to all areas of the store to find him. Oooooooooh. She was pissed beyond belief. When he got home he whined that she said she wasn't gonna' take him with her ever again. Servss him right.

90 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:02:11am

re: #89 MandyManners

I did but I couldn't sleep. My mom took The Kid to Wal*Mart today, and I took a nap. He spent part of his allowance in the game room then--despite her telling him not to leave it--he took off for the electronics' department. When she got checked out, he was not to be found, and at that minute the store's PA system went dead. Instead of using her head and remembering what I've said about his going to that department after I let him play in the game room, she freaked out. So, people had to be dispatched to all areas of the store to find him. Oooooooooh. She was pissed beyond belief. When he got home he whined that she said she wasn't gonna' take him with her ever again. Servss him right.

i'm glad my kids only wander into the neighbor's yard once in awhile, and even not that so much anymore. they're better about coming in at twilight too these days.

91 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:02:32am

re: #89 MandyManners

Sounds like fun. Us oldsters keep forgetting young boys have minds of their own and sometimes the attention span of a gold fish. :)


/ooooh shiny thing

92 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:03:20am

I'm gonna' try to get some sleep.

Nighty-night!

93 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:03:51am

re: #87 redc1c4

no problem: i always dose those with Obecalp before i go on to the real deal.

Portland will have a big protest at the very least. We'll have something going on in my neighborhood for sure

94 rawmuse  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:05:10am
95 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:06:38am

*Yawn*

Yet another NYT hit-piece on Gov. Palin.

In all fairness, these are questions that should be asked of any candidate. But was I asleep when they were asking the same hard-hitting questions of our lord and savior Obama? If they were asked, did I sleep through what I'm sure were Obama's direct and comprehesive answers to those questions?

Or were they never asked at all.

/I liked the 'hit critics' part of the headline. Someone needs to smack the NYT upside the head with a clue-by-four. Maybe their stock would stop circling the tank.

96 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:13:40am

re: #95 Fenway_Nation

*Yawn*

Yet another NYT hit-piece on Gov. Palin.

In all fairness, these are questions that should be asked of any candidate. But was I asleep when they were asking the same hard-hitting questions of our lord and savior Obama? If they were asked, did I sleep through what I'm sure were Obama's direct and comprehesive answers to those questions?

Or were they never asked at all.

/I liked the 'hit critics' part of the headline. Someone needs to smack the NYT upside the head with a clue-by-four. Maybe their stock would stop circling the tank.

"Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on loyalty and secrecy. The governor and her top officials sometimes use personal e-mail accounts for state business; dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records."

“Their secrecy is off the charts,” Mr. Steiner said.


This stupid crap again - THE MOST SECRETIVE ADMIN IN 100,000 YEARS!

97 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:16:50am

re: #95 Fenway_Nation

What particularly P's-me-O is the nerve of some people to say that people are being too hard on Obama...

98 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:17:06am

seems as it will be the Bush meme part 2

master of deception evil genius chimpy McBush barbi McPalin the retard

99 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:19:03am

L8r!

100 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:21:18am

Night red, have fun in class tomorrow.

101 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:22:23am

re: #99 redc1c4

Cheers.

102 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:34:34am

re: #88 victor_yugo

re: #88 victor_yugo

And I answered with my response about prayer.

103 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:37:55am

re: #102 Intrepid

Yup yup, saw it.

104 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:39:28am

re: #89 MandyManners

Heh - my niece (now 27) when she was little snuck into the middle of the blue jeans rack and sat there, as my sister and mother called out her name in a frantic manner. And when my sister went close to the blue-jeans rack, still looking for her little girl, my niece called out "HERE ME IS!".

We still tease her about it. But my sister still shakes her head and says, "I will never forget that day".

105 rabidfox  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:41:45am

nite all.

106 Xenobyte  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:47:43am

DK = Denmark

It's a lovely little country in northwestern Europe in the region of Scandinavia mostly known for the works of H.C. Andersen, The Little Mermaid and the Mohammad cartoons... ;)

More general info here: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

PS: Yes, I'm danish, living in a city about 12 miles west of Copenhagen.

107 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:47:55am

For the first time since I signed up, the previous thread is sustaining more activity than the current thread.

108 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:50:03am

re: #104 Intrepid

designated chauffeur for my sister in laws bachelorette night. she'd been called up on stage at a comedy/piano bar and the guy had called her Mother Theresa for not going along with his bawdy routine.

driving them to the next bar she complained about him and said I'm not Mother Fuckin' Theresa, I'm Katy Fuckin' MaidenName

so she is forever called that

109 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:51:39am

re: #107 victor_yugo

It happens sometimes. Especially when lizards blood gets heated about certain topics. Religion and evolution are usually what gets it going.

110 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:55:06am

re: #109 BlueCanuck

Didn't the shit hit the fan over that whole VB thing as well?

111 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:55:37am

re: #104 Intrepid

re: #108 spidly


Heh, the importance of making sure your offspring know their proper names. My parents back in the day used to call my youngest brother Bruce Rascal. He always has been an impish fellow. Well one day we were in a mall and he was about three and got seperated from the family group. My parents discovered this and were searching frantically. Well over the mall PA system comes the announcement, "Would the parents of Bruce Rascal please come to the security desk." Well my parents had a little difficulty with the security guards after showing I.D., and trying to explain to them that no his last name wasn't rascal. But it was obvious that he recognized them with happy glee. Afterwards they made sure he knew his proper last name.

112 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:56:38am

re: #110 Fenway_Nation

Yeah, I remember that. Wasn't posting much back then but blood and sticks were flying with that whole debacle. Stopped going to certain blogs as well when all was said and done.

113 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:56:41am

re: #106 Xenobyte

DK = Denmark

It's a lovely little country in northwestern Europe in the region of Scandinavia mostly known for the works of H.C. Andersen, The Little Mermaid and the Mohammad cartoons... ;)

More general info here: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

PS: Yes, I'm danish, living in a city about 12 miles west of Copenhagen.

jeg boede på Amager i 1987-88. Min Dansk er lort nu som jeg har glempt så meget. Jeg har ikke nogen at taler med og det er ikke ofte jeg læser avisen eller min boger.

114 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:59:58am

While awaiting an answer from Blue, I notice the eerie silence that has been cast over this thread and suddenly realize that we are mere moments away from another bountiful fruitcup appearence from littleoldlady

115 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:00:00am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------------->
Help yourselves!

116 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:00:19am

w00t!

117 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:00:40am

Right on time!

118 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:01:05am

re: #115 littleoldlady

W00000T!1111! Thanks litttleoldlady. Have you checked your Power ball today?

119 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:02:41am

re: #118 BlueCanuck

BlueCanuck! :-)

Have you checked your Power ball today?

Yeah.
/verybigsigh :-(

Fenway! :-)

/I hope I found my previously lost mojo... ;-)

120 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:04:15am

re: #115 littleoldlady

FRRRRRUUUUUITCUUUUUUUUUP!

/{lol}

121 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:04:17am

re: #119 littleoldlady

when Obama is president everyone will win powerball

122 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:04:48am

Wow - I even showed up while there was still some fruitcup left! How are all you nice folks today?

123 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:04:48am

re: #119 littleoldlady

Fenway! :-)

/I hope I found my previously lost mojo... ;-)


Was it next to some AA batteries in the junk drawer? Thats the last place I remember seeing my mojo...

124 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:04:55am

I'm sorry, I'm Salamantis wary. Dude is a military veteran, an expert on every subject, has the degree, and has posted unreadable "articles" for every subject on MySpace He's also been known to regale everyone with "near death bowel problems"

/just me, I could be wrong, but I'm not buying that reality

125 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:05:13am

laZardo, baby! :-)

How's school?

/Sorry, I have to ask. When I ask my own kid she doesn't answer...

126 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:05:19am

re: #121 spidly

when Obama is president everyone will win powerball

127 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:05:47am

Morning granny, how's things in your neck of the woods?

128 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:06:05am

re: #121 spidly

when Obama is president everyone will HOPE to win powerball

spidly! :-)

129 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:06:26am

re: #124 Killian Bundy

I'm sorry, I'm Salamantis wary. Dude is a military veteran, an expert on every subject, has the degree, and has posted unreadable "articles" for every subject on MySpace He's also been known to regale everyone with "near death bowel problems"

/just me, I could be wrong, but I'm not buying that reality

touch of Cliff Claven

130 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:06:38am

re: #115 littleoldlady

LOL, you are the woman! Fruitcup sounds good right about now....

131 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:06:54am

re: #123 Fenway_Nation

I guess since red isn't here I'm going to have to tell YOU to behave?

;-)

132 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:07:17am

re: #128 littleoldlady

spidly! :-)

fruitcup! Where's Miguel? sleeping finally?

133 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:08:08am

granny! :-)

Intrepid! :-)

Boyz, there's womynz here!

/just sayin'...

134 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:08:23am

re: #127 BlueCanuck

Morning granny, how's things in your neck of the woods?

Now that I am finally rid of the viruses that infested and plagued my poor little machine, I'm fine. You?

135 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:08:46am

re: #114 Fenway_Nation

You called it two seconds ahead!

On my best day, I don't think I could do that.

136 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:09:25am

I noticed that littleoldlady hit the fruitcup time right on the mark today!

CONGRATULATIONS TO LITTLEOLDLATY!

137 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:09:47am

re: #132 spidly

Oy. Don't say that! Miguel had a stroke (and I HOPE it was only one stroke) some time ago and no one has heard from him since shortly thereafter.

:-(

138 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:10:31am

re: #137 littleoldlady

Oy. Don't say that! Miguel had a stroke (and I HOPE it was only one stroke) some time ago and no one has heard from him since shortly thereafter.

:-(

I did not know that. Oh dear, I do hope he is OK. I quite like Miguel.

139 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:10:42am

re: #136 Intrepid

Thankyou. Thankyouverymuch.

;-)

140 BignJames  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:10:53am

re: #129 spidly

touch of Cliff Claven

Master of his universe(s) is still holding forth on the previous thread.

141 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:10:54am

re: #134 galloping granny

Actually got some decent sleep this weekend. Going to have to get some more exercise. That's seeming to help. Still trying to get off this bloody night shift though.

142 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:11:14am

re: #136 Intrepid

er, that's LITTLEOLDLADY!

pimf

143 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:12:03am

re: #142 Intrepid

Not to worry. I spell my name wrong sometimes, too...

144 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:12:11am

re: #137 littleoldlady

balls... I am sort of out of the loop having totally ignored the world after my brother

145 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:13:37am

re: #135 victor_yugo

Usually when I do that, I'm two seconds late...

146 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:13:41am

re: #125 littleoldlady

Just the first week supply-gathering. Nothing requiring too much exertion (yet).

147 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:13:55am

re: #140 BignJames

Master of his universe(s) is still holding forth on the previous thread.

he has a small following. when does hale bop come by again?

148 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:14:45am

re: #147 spidly

Not soon enough?

149 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:16:37am

re: #141 BlueCanuck

Actually got some decent sleep this weekend. Going to have to get some more exercise. That's seeming to help. Still trying to get off this bloody night shift though.

I hated working night shift. Better night shift than not at all though. I'm glad the exercise is helping. If you can lay hands on one, Wii Fit is fun and great for nasty weather.

150 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:17:09am

I just made a mistake.

I went searching for, and found, my ex's pic.

WTF did I do that?

151 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:19:26am

re: #148 BlueCanuck

Not soon enough?

a different kind of troll being fed by people who should know better. Oh well, I got into it with him for a bit until it became apparent he knew not of what he spoke

152 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:19:39am

re: #144 spidly

Understandable... {spidly}

153 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:19:48am

Good morning, and good night all.

re: #150 victor_yugo

I just made a mistake.

I went searching for, and found, my ex's pic.

WTF did I do that?

Um, to scare away your case of the hiccoughs? Just spit-ballin' here...

154 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:20:08am

re: #150 victor_yugo

gotta roll around in misery once in a while

155 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:20:25am

re: #147 spidly

So that's why he was so willing to share his applesauce recipie with the rest of us....

156 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:20:31am

re: #146 laZardo

I hope you get good grades.

/I also hope you'll let me adopt you. ;-)

157 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:20:39am

re: #149 galloping granny

That costs coin. Would rather buy a better camera. Going on walks with the GF and the dog, as well as around the downtown core. Looking for sculptures and other interesting things.

158 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:21:24am

re: #150 victor_yugo

Morbid sense of curiosity?

/happens to the best of us sometimes.

159 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:21:58am

re: #150 victor_yugo

I just made a mistake.

I went searching for, and found, my ex's pic.

WTF did I do that?

Now that you've found it, perhaps you should burn it. Or turn it into confetti.

160 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:22:12am

re: #150 victor_yugo

I just made a mistake.

I went searching for, and found, my ex's pic.

WTF did I do that?

just remember to not romanticise what was. try and stay focused on what sucked

161 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:23:36am

re: #157 BlueCanuck

That costs coin. Would rather buy a better camera. Going on walks with the GF and the dog, as well as around the downtown core. Looking for sculptures and other interesting things.

That is true. I don't go out much once winter sets in - not really anywhere to walk around here, at least not without driving to get there first. And we were lucky and got ours on an Amazon pre-order for $89.

162 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:24:14am

Who the [expletive deleted] posts undecipherable "scientific" articles on MySpace?

/and why?

163 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:24:22am

re: #159 galloping granny

Now that you've found it, perhaps you should burn it. Or turn it into confetti.

The pic was online.

Actually, I've kept some of the pictures, esp. of the wedding day. Kind of an alternate memento mori, reminder of my own fallibility.

164 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:25:53am

re: #157 BlueCanuck

Your pics are wonderful.

165 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:26:09am

re: #163 victor_yugo

Heh, all I have to do is watch Shrek. :)

/ex looked like princess Fiona in ogre form.

166 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:26:32am

re: #164 galloping granny

Thank you.

167 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:27:53am

re: #161 galloping granny

ask the fred meyer or whatever store clerk when they get the shipment in. Here it is Sunday 7am for all the stores and you can get whatever Wii thing you want.

168 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:28:55am

re: #162 Killian Bundy

Who the [expletive deleted] posts undecipherable "scientific" articles on MySpace?

/and why?

it is the preeminent scientific journal, DUH

169 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:30:06am

re: #162 Killian Bundy

Who the [expletive deleted] posts undecipherable "scientific" articles on MySpace?

/and why?

Who the heck is ingiskhan dinging you down for such a statement?

As a card carrying member of the REAL scientific community I can assure you that those who hide behind undecipherable scientific articles are most of the time full of hogwash. It's kind of a "look at me, see how brilliant I am" thing and a "you're not good enough to join my exclusive club" thing. Sheer BS.

Now, who the heck over 20 bothers to have a MySpace page?

170 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:31:57am

re: #167 spidly

ask the fred meyer or whatever store clerk when they get the shipment in. Here it is Sunday 7am for all the stores and you can get whatever Wii thing you want.

We don't have anything like that in a hundred miles or so, any direction. For that reason, we belong to Amazon Prime. I shop from my keyboard and it arrives in a day or two on the UPS truck.

Besides, I already have the Wii and the WiiFit.

171 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:32:18am

re: #162 Killian Bundy

gotta get in touch with the quantum fluctuation, dude

172 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:32:23am

I had to take Valium last night for a medical procedure (MRI) and woke up (or came to really) with a massive hangover....I'm such a lightweight after 22 years clean and sober.....slogged around all day....and now I'm wide awake, no chance of going to sleep soon.........maybe go on line and I'll look for pictures of my ex wives.........

173 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:32:52am

re: #162 Killian Bundy

Who the [expletive deleted] posts undecipherable "scientific" articles on MySpace?

/and why?

It proves that anyone can find a soapbox on the interweb.....

174 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:33:31am

re: #172 IslandLibertarian

I had to take Valium last night for a medical procedure (MRI) and woke up (or came to really) with a massive hangover....I'm such a lightweight after 22 years clean and sober.....slogged around all day....and now I'm wide awake, no chance of going to sleep soon.........maybe go on line and I'll look for pictures of my ex wives.........

I hear all the exes live in Teas. Start there.

175 BignJames  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:33:45am

re: #162 Killian Bundy

Who the [expletive deleted] posts undecipherable "scientific" articles on MySpace?

/and why?


Mmmm....ignorant teenage adulation?

176 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:34:18am

re: #156 littleoldlady

Thanks, but a guy like me can't live on fruitcup alone. (;

177 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:34:20am

Wow, 1,311 comments and counting.

178 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:34:45am

re: #174 coquimbojoe

got en ex GF in Houston..........does she count?

179 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:34:55am

re: #172 IslandLibertarian

IslandLibertarian! :-)

PLURAL?!

/how do you folks afford it?

180 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:35:07am

re: #175 BignJames

Mmmm....ignorant teenage adulation?

Please don't put down people who take the time to embed P Diddy videos into their personal page for your entertainment.

181 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:35:18am

re: #178 IslandLibertarian

got en ex GF in Houston..........does she count?

Only to 28.

If she takes off her clothes.

182 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:35:29am

Randi Rhodes accuses Palin of teenage molestation

Man, just when you thought the left couldn't get any more bat-shit insane. I swear, if McCain wins a landslide, I fear for these people's sanity. They're stuck in a terrible negative feedback loop right now, the only logical ending is suicide.

183 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:35:31am

re: #178 IslandLibertarian

got en ex GF in Houston..........does she count?

Absitively, posilutely.

184 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:36:11am

re: #182 EIDE_Interface

Randi Rhodes accuses Palin of teenage molestation

Man, just when you thought the left couldn't get any more bat-shit insane. I swear, if McCain wins a landslide, I fear for these people's sanity. They're stuck in a terrible negative feedback loop right now, the only logical ending is suicide.

Did she say this from her prone position in the gutter?

185 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:36:21am

re: #179 littleoldlady

yes plural.........I thought "Third time's a charm" but it was "Three strikes, yer out!"

186 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:37:19am

re: #185 IslandLibertarian

yes plural.........I thought "Third time's a charm" but it was "Three strikes, yer out!"

I see you're no stranger to pain.


/learned my lesson after my divorce. ;)

187 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:38:09am

re: #185 IslandLibertarian

yes plural.........I thought "Third time's a charm" but it was "Three strikes, yer out!"

My father has found out that its really 'the fourth time's a charm'....

188 BignJames  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:38:23am

re: #180 coquimbojoe

P who? what?

189 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:38:48am

re: #184 coquimbojoe

Did she say this from her prone position in the gutter?

Randi is always in danger of falling face down in the gutter. A dry-drunk she is.

190 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:38:51am

re: #181 victor_yugo

Only to 28.

If she takes off her clothes.

OK, I need an explanation here, really.

191 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:39:05am

re: #170 galloping granny

We don't have anything like that in a hundred miles or so, any direction. For that reason, we belong to Amazon Prime. I shop from my keyboard and it arrives in a day or two on the UPS truck.

Besides, I already have the Wii and the WiiFit.

they screw you online. prices are much higher. I don't get this whole marketing ploy but I guess it maximizes profits somehow.

1st underwear 2nd........ 3rd profits

My wifes birthday and our anniversary are a week apart - she got the Wii console, Wii sports, Wii fit, guitar queero, dance dance, mariocart, and because I saw some kids playing along with The Yeah Yeah Yeah's right after I listened to them on my iPod, she got Rockband

Rockband has a great playlist

192 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:39:53am

re: #173 coquimbojoe

It proves that anyone can find a soapbox on the interweb.....

where'd you get "interweb" we make fun of my mom because she calls it that

193 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:39:56am

re: #188 BignJames

P who? what?

Puff Daddy. Sean Combs. Hubris McIdioticpants. If you really don't know, you are better off than those of who do

194 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:40:14am

re: #192 spidly

where'd you get "interweb" we make fun of my mom because she calls it that

Simpsons maybe?

195 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:41:11am

re: #190 IslandLibertarian

OK, I need an explanation here, really.

10 fingers
10 toes
2 eyes
2 ears
1 nose
1 mouth
and 2... um.......

196 BignJames  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:41:44am

re: #193 coquimbojoe

Puff Daddy. Sean Combs. Hubris McIdioticpants. If you really don't know, you are better off than those of who do


Sean St.Jean....that guy?

197 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:43:37am

re: #195 victor_yugo

10 fingers
10 toes
2 eyes
2 ears
1 nose
1 mouth
and 2... um.......

Ankles?
Elbow?
Lymphnodes?

Don't leave us hanging.

/And with that, good night fine people. If anyone would like to read my treatise on quantum sentence diagramming, is on my Myspace page. Enjoy!

198 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:44:09am

re: #182 EIDE_Interface

Randi Rhodes accuses Palin of teenage molestation

Man, just when you thought the left couldn't get any more bat-shit insane. I swear, if McCain wins a landslide, I fear for these people's sanity. They're stuck in a terrible negative feedback loop right now, the only logical ending is suicide.

They all want to be (an) heroes of the revolution.

/link includes NSFW language, but it's all mainly for interweb-hormonal-male kicks...

199 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:44:25am

re: #196 BignJames

Sean St.Jean....that guy?

No, lucky person. Bother your pretty head no further. Ignorance, in this case, is bliss.

200 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:44:30am

re: #191 spidly

they screw you online. prices are much higher. I don't get this whole marketing ploy but I guess it maximizes profits somehow.

1st underwear 2nd........ 3rd profits

My wifes birthday and our anniversary are a week apart - she got the Wii console, Wii sports, Wii fit, guitar queero, dance dance, mariocart, and because I saw some kids playing along with The Yeah Yeah Yeah's right after I listened to them on my iPod, she got Rockband

Rockband has a great playlist

I do not know what the girls paid for the Wii (it was a gift to old granny) but I am quite sure that if they could have bought it cheaper elsewhere, they would have done so. They are MY children after all and every one of them can squeeze a nickel till it bleeds. I know for a fact that I paid $89 for WiiFit - a price that nobody anywhere has even met, to say nothing of beaten. And by the time I add the cost of a half-tank of gas to drive anywhere (not to mention the time, road food, and having to wait until I can make time to go on an all-day jaunt), an extra buck or two is often worth it to me.

201 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:45:39am

high holidays are upon us. just in case you have not been deluged with requests for charitable donations, think about ZAKA.

202 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:47:09am

re: #198 laZardo

They all want to be (an) heroes of the revolution.

/link includes NSFW language, but it's all mainly for interweb-hormonal-male kicks...

A lot of talk on Hot Air that Randi is projecting with all of her incessant talk about perversions, and child molestation. I mean she does go on and on about it every single show. I wonder what skeletons Randi is hiding?

203 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:47:41am
204 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:47:49am

re: #198 laZardo

They all want to be (an) heroes of the revolution.

/link includes NSFW language, but it's all mainly for interweb-hormonal-male kicks...

Alcohol is one of the very few substances that crosses the blood-brain barrier. Brain cells do not regenerate. Randy Randi has turned her brain to mush.

205 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:48:07am

re: #202 EIDE_Interface

Probably just wanting a share of the ratings pie that comes from trashing Palin...

206 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:49:16am

re: #202 EIDE_Interface

A lot of talk on Hot Air that Randi is projecting with all of her incessant talk about perversions, and child molestation. I mean she does go on and on about it every single show. I wonder what skeletons Randi is hiding?

I can see that easily.

207 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:49:24am

re: #195 victor_yugo

10 fingers
10 toes
2 eyes
2 ears
1 nose
1 mouth
and 2... um.......

Here's a couple with numbered parts..............
I like to paint by numbers.

208 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:49:38am

re: #200 galloping granny

I paid 69 at the store, cheapest I found online was 110 when I got it. I had a coworker get his wife to buy it at the Fred Meyer she works at and I gave him a bottle of single Malt so I came out almost even. it was a rush though

209 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:52:52am

re: #206 galloping granny

I can see that easily.

BTW, during the whole Mark Foley scandal, she was the first to jump on the 'all Republicans are child molestors" meme.

210 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:54:37am

re: #208 spidly

I paid 69 at the store, cheapest I found online was 110 when I got it. I had a coworker get his wife to buy it at the Fred Meyer she works at and I gave him a bottle of single Malt so I came out almost even. it was a rush though

I thought to register the Wii when I got it - and give them my real email. So, the day they announced WiiFit everyone on the list got a special offer email. We sometimes get pretty snowed in during the winter and I thought it would be a smart way for the kiddo to get PE in besides DDR, so I had it ordered in under 15 minutes. One of the best things I've spent money on in some while - even old Granny has fun doing the Hula. Makes for quite a party conversation piece too.

211 SouthAmericanWay  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:55:39am

A Concerned Democrat for McCain asks:

Can I see Obama's Bar application(s)?
'cause I think he may have lied about experimenting with drugs (as later revealed in his autobiography).

212 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:56:31am

re: #210 galloping granny

I thought to register the Wii when I got it - and give them my real email. So, the day they announced WiiFit everyone on the list got a special offer email. We sometimes get pretty snowed in during the winter and I thought it would be a smart way for the kiddo to get PE in besides DDR, so I had it ordered in under 15 minutes. One of the best things I've spent money on in some while - even old Granny has fun doing the Hula. Makes for quite a party conversation piece too.

i own tight rope. wife injured herself on hula

213 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:56:46am

re: #191 spidly

The Wii is said to have been sold out in stores since it was launched. Looks like they're still willing to charge a premium...

214 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:56:57am

re: #209 EIDE_Interface

BTW, during the whole Mark Foley scandal, she was the first to jump on the 'all Republicans are child molestors" meme.

She is so much trash. I'm surprised that anyone will still pay her, much less give her airtime.

215 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:57:52am

re: #210 galloping granny

there's a ski game out that uses the balance pad
30USD

216 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:59:16am

re: #213 laZardo

The Wii is said to have been sold out in stores since it was launched. Looks like they're still willing to charge a premium...

I was working 7 days a week and couldn't get to the store early enough so it took me just about 2 months of visits to finally get it

217 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:59:38am

re: #213 laZardo

The Wii is said to have been sold out in stores since it was launched. Looks like they're still willing to charge a premium...

Mostly. My SIL's dad stood in line overnight to get him one for Christmas. BJ's - something like Sam's Club - usually has a couple in stock and I've seen them most trips I make to WalMart. I did hear that Nintendo was upping production. WiiFit is really hard to come by though. It sold out on Amazon as a pre-order and I've never seen it there since except through 3rd party sellers.

218 yochanan  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:01:14am

re: #32 Colonel Panik

And yea, it shall be that in the 8th Month of the Year of '08...that out of the frozen wastes of the North shall come a mighty Amazon Hockeymom warrior on Mooseback, wielding an M4 carbine, and striking terror into the hearts of the Moonbats.

The Obamaclypse and the Revelation of St. John the PORCINEAviator


fixed that for you.

219 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:01:15am

re: #215 spidly

there's a ski game out that uses the balance pad
30USD

There is a ski game out that comes with WiiFit. There are 40 or 50 games all told. Even a jogging course.

220 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:02:01am

re: #207 IslandLibertarian

And the video. (NSFW!)

221 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:02:10am

re: #216 spidly

Patience, clearly, is a virtue. (:

222 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:03:12am

Is this where all the American insomniac lizards hang out? I woke up before 4:30 and I simply cannot get back to sleep.

223 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:04:18am

re: #222 vxbush

Yep, welcome to the late night/early morning drinking thread.


/for some of us it's just coffee.

224 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:04:42am

re: #219 galloping granny

there's a separate ski game out there. I was going to get it but it was gone when I went back. it is not part of the fit package just all skiing

225 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:05:39am

re: #223 BlueCanuck

Yep, welcome to the late night/early morning drinking thread.


/for some of us it's just coffee.

usually, but I am having the bi-yearly beerfest along with those doritos while the wife is gone

226 BignJames  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:06:29am

re: #222 vxbush

Go to the previous thread.....there's a poster there that should put you to sleep.

227 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:06:32am

re: #220 victor_yugo

And the video. (NSFW!)

Ummmm...

To anyone who watched that, and now wants those six minutes of their lives back:

I apologize for posting that.

228 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:06:34am

re: #224 spidly

there's a separate ski game out there. I was going to get it but it was gone when I went back. it is not part of the fit package just all skiing

Sure, and Jillian the trainer from biggest loser has a "game" out too. Not interested in spending money on either of them though. Never have much liked to ski.

229 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:06:55am

Hey, since we're discussing the Wii:

I've been debating about getting it for my disabled son, who has good range of motion with his right arm but absolutely cannot handle pushing A and B buttons and direction arrows on a regular game system. I haven't had much time to research the Wii with all the surgeries in the house, so how does the game controller work? I know there's a motion sensor in it that notes position and such.

230 scottishbuzzsaw  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:06:55am

re: #222 vxbush

Is this where all the American insomniac lizards hang out? I woke up before 4:30 and I simply cannot get back to sleep.


Been up since 4:10...cruel on a Sunday morn', isn't it? Raining cats and dogs, too...more coffee....

231 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:07:01am

little fat tire, little hefe, little newcastle, and a little abby

232 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:08:14am
13) Staring at a Screen Darkly

The advent of the Internet recombines the abolition of space-time barriers to communication with the constant and instant availability of (potentially) practically all textual knowledge, as computer aided design and computer assisted manufacture threaten to leave the proletariat with little beyond bourgeois leisure and a subsistence stipend. The underclass will be known not as the unwashed, but as the unwired. With every computer terminal a samizdat, governments (and religions) will progressively lose their ability to tell the big lies and make them stick (see Zapatista). Guerilla semioticians will increasingly 'poach' the icons and symbols of governmental, religious and corporate institutions and imbue them with different and frequently subversive meanings (The Practice of Everyday Life, Michel de Certeau, 1984). Authority will issue not from age, race, gender or status, but from the internal consistency, logical cogency, linguistic clarity and external coherence of one's positions. Spoken and written language forms will continue vanishing as quickly as endangered species, as informational selection takes its Darwinian toll. The hegemony of employment over location will melt away as more and more jobs can be performed from anywhere with power and a telephone line. Global democracy will supersede multiple national sovereignties as humanity's attachments to borders and boundaries will shrink along with their relevance to the lives of an increasingly individually sovereign citizenry (as Francis Fukuyama foresaw in The End Of History, 1992). The policy debates now occurring within electronic 'town meetings' will be settled by cyber-votes. The Human Genome Project will allow human beings to genetically know themselves (Socrates and Hippocrates would be pleased) and to re-engineer their codes to remove textual errors (inherited defects). If they like the result, genocopies (clones) will be possible, and there is already talk of exploiting the shared binary codes of computer language and the double helix to create DNA computers. The meme will then have traveled full circle, finding its way back to the gene. In the coming millennium, homo sapiens will be both weavers of and woven by, for better or for worse, the informational warp and communicational weft of a co-evolutionary New Web Order.

/gues who posted this on MySpace and forgot to tell Lord Obama?

233 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:08:27am

re: #230 scottishbuzzsaw

Been up since 4:10...cruel on a Sunday morn', isn't it? Raining cats and dogs, too...more coffee....

Amen, sister. Cruel indeed. There's no point in going back to sleep if the alarm is going to go off in 2 hours.

234 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:09:23am

re: #232 Killian Bundy

oh shit, this thread has been infected with the Salamantin virus

235 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:09:32am

re: #222 vxbush

Over here, I'm just whittling away a lazy Sunday afternoon writing up something for design class...

236 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:09:49am

re: #232 Killian Bundy

Gah. Someone who loves the sound of his own typing, methinks. Definitely sounds like a leftist.

237 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:10:43am

re: #220 victor_yugo

(NSFW!)
yeah, the video doesn't do them justice.........we had them at our company Christmas party...........and a good time was had by all!

238 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:11:01am

re: #229 vxbush

Hey, since we're discussing the Wii:

I've been debating about getting it for my disabled son, who has good range of motion with his right arm but absolutely cannot handle pushing A and B buttons and direction arrows on a regular game system. I haven't had much time to research the Wii with all the surgeries in the house, so how does the game controller work? I know there's a motion sensor in it that notes position and such.

There is a bar that sits on top of the TV that senses the motion. Most of the games that I've played with it you move the controller up and down or back and forth, maybe tip it this way or that.

BTW, I have disabilities that sometimes make it hard for me. That is one of the reasons the girls got me the Wii.

239 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:11:25am

re: #236 vxbush

Gah. Someone who loves the sound of his own typing, methinks. Definitely sounds like a leftist.

/thread down

240 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:13:25am

re: #239 Killian Bundy

waste of time, he is

241 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:13:40am

re: #232 Killian Bundy

Wow, that almost sounds like the Sokal affair or SCIgen.

242 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:15:05am

re: #239 Killian Bundy

/thread down

Ah. Oh-kay.

So: we were talking about the Wii, right?

243 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:16:07am
A local teenager told CBS2-TV that he had exchanged a brief text message with the engineer shortly before the crash. The station reported that the teen, Nick Williams, was among a group of kids who befriended the engineer and asked him questions about his work.
Tyrrell said before the report aired that she would find it "unbelievable" that an engineer would be text messaging while operating a train. Using a cell phone on duty is against Metrolink rules, former conductor Garcia said.


25 people killed and 132 wounded.

I see someone text messaging in a car driving stupid-
But text messaging driving a train?

Sheeeesh!

244 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:16:59am

re: #242 vxbush

Ah. Oh-kay.

So: we were talking about the Wii, right?

We were.

245 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:20:23am

re: #242 vxbush

Unfortunately the last console system I owned was the SNES. Tried the N64, X-Box, but didn't like the new games that came out. Tried the Wii at a friends place and loved it.

246 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:22:09am

re: #238 galloping granny

There is a bar that sits on top of the TV that senses the motion. Most of the games that I've played with it you move the controller up and down or back and forth, maybe tip it this way or that.

BTW, I have disabilities that sometimes make it hard for me. That is one of the reasons the girls got me the Wii.

Is there a button on the hand-held device that you have to hold down or push as you move the device around? That level of coordination might be difficult for him, but maybe not if it only requires a thumb to push.

247 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:25:07am

re: #246 vxbush

Is there a button on the hand-held device that you have to hold down or push as you move the device around? That level of coordination might be difficult for him, but maybe not if it only requires a thumb to push.

There are a few buttons - the main one, which is large and requires a thumb only. The next most commonly used is a button on the back that is pulled like a trigger. The rest are fairly small and not used very often - mostly for things like exiting a game back to the main Wii menu. You might have to assist with that.

248 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:28:20am

someone making TV's is going to team up with a gaming console mfg and make a console integral or provide a hollow space and port to plug in a console and own the TV/Gaming market. coax other consoles to adapt to their tv.

249 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:29:13am

re: #232 Killian Bundy

I can curiously shorten all of it to four letters and a semi-colon.

250 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:29:51am

re: #248 spidly

someone making TV's is going to team up with a gaming console mfg and make a console integral or provide a hollow space and port to plug in a console and own the TV/Gaming market. coax other consoles to adapt to their tv.

That isn't going to fly any more than the VCR in TV did.

251 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:30:29am

He wrote an essay to the Language Origins Society and they published it.

/sociology, I'm impress

252 TheMatrix31  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:31:02am

re: #182 EIDE_Interface

Randi Rhodes accuses Palin of teenage molestation

Man, just when you thought the left couldn't get any more bat-shit insane. I swear, if McCain wins a landslide, I fear for these people's sanity. They're stuck in a terrible negative feedback loop right now, the only logical ending is suicide.

She's just jealous that teenage boys wouldn't mind having sex with Palin.

253 yochanan  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:33:41am

come the even of nov. 5th the obamatons will be crying in the Chardonnay and stinky cheese.

254 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:33:59am

re: #251 Killian Bundy

He wrote an essay to the Language Origins Society and they published it.

/sociology, I'm impress

When he gets one published in one of the American Chemical Society journals let me know.

255 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:37:31am

re: #254 galloping granny

When he gets one published in one of the American Chemical Society journals let me know.

Heh. Or one of the prestigious math journals, or Physics Letters, or....

Yeah. You got it, granny.

256 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:40:11am

re: #255 vxbush

Heh. Or one of the prestigious math journals, or Physics Letters, or....

Yeah. You got it, granny.

There is nothing more pretentious that somebody who knows so little about his discipline that he has to hide behind lofty rhetoric. Except someone who pretends to be a Professor of Constitutional Law when in fact he is and always has been a mere part-time lecturer.

257 bp sf  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:40:54am

Good Morning.

New York Daily News sucks too:

Test your Palin-tology

Do you know Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin better than she knows the Bush Doctrine? Check out our quiz and find out.


I'd rather not.

258 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:41:54am

re: #254 galloping granny

When he gets one published in one of the American Chemical Society journals let me know.

Well, he's an expert on pretty much everyting posted on MySpace.

/it's the Wild Wild West

259 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:42:45am

re: #255 vxbush

Heh. Or one of the prestigious math journals, or Physics Letters, or....

Yeah. You got it, granny.

he might be able to get in Lancet if he make far left claims about smoking or Iraq

260 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:44:00am

re: #256 galloping granny

There is nothing more pretentious that somebody who knows so little about his discipline that he has to hide behind lofty rhetoric. Except someone who pretends to be a Professor of Constitutional Law when in fact he is and always has been a mere part-time lecturer.

I have a good friend who is a liberal (little l, not big l), not a leftist, but can at times have a visceral hatred for Republicans. I asked her once, as she has several degrees in English, why it is that writers write such obscure crap. Her answer made more sense than most I've seen: They're just writing to impress each other. No one else cares, and no one else even pretends it's understandable.

261 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:45:21am

re: #259 spidly

he might be able to get in Lancet if he make far left claims about smoking or Iraq

Yes, isn't it sad? Lancet has fallen far, but then in regards to their "600,000 Iraqis dead" article, that's what you get for using very shady techniques. You think they would have had someone do a better job of reviewing that article.

262 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:47:56am

re: #261 vxbush

Yes, isn't it sad? Lancet has fallen far, but then in regards to their "600,000 Iraqis dead" article, that's what you get for using very shady techniques. You think they would have had someone do a better job of reviewing that article.

like the newspapers, that's what happens when you have a bunch of people who just run with it if it is what they want to hear

263 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:04:10am

Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill

/it's a simple yet complicated world

264 Tamron  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:04:39am

DID YOU KNOW ABOUT OBAMA'S FUTURE WAR PLANS FOR THE USA?

Obama is toying with national military mobilization (the draft):


NATIONAL SERVICE FORUM AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY

11 Sept 2008

"...Obama holds out the prospect that, at least initially, his demand for wider participation in military service would consist of encouraging more enlistments in the volunteer army. When that failed, as it undoubtedly would, to produce sufficient cannon fodder for the next round of imperialist wars, the logical next step would be reactivation of the Selective Service System, which still exists, albeit in mothballed form..."

Obama would thus create a generation of draft-dodgers, and then toss them under the bus.

LOL! Then Canada closes their border, creating a reverse-migration across the Mexican border.... "Press 2 for English, you chickenshit Gringo. Here are some toilets for you to clean, as soon as you finish mowing my lawn."

Just where is this going?
.

265 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:06:51am

re: #264 Tamron

I thought we discussed this pretty thoroughly the night of the Columbia forum. Look for that post from Charles, and read through it. Obama got pretty weird, as he was suggesting volunteerism in every aberrant form: veteran's groups, college groups, retired groups, and more and more, all to be paid from the government. Weirod.

266 Tamron  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:08:18am

Ooops. I missed that forum entirely. Thanks!

267 akak  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:13:44am

re: #264 Tamron

DID YOU KNOW ABOUT OBAMA'S FUTURE WAR PLANS FOR THE USA?

Obama is toying with national military mobilization (the draft):

Obama would thus create a generation of draft-dodgers, and then toss them under the bus.

LOL! Then Canada closes their border, creating a reverse-migration across the Mexican border.... "Press 2 for English, you chickenshit Gringo. Here are some toilets for you to clean, as soon as you finish mowing my lawn."

Just where is this going?
.


except it would be Peace corp tripe options

268 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:17:20am

Is it me, or does it seem like Obama and Biden are spending an inordinate amount of time in New Hampshire? Particularly since they are drawing pretty small crowds - Biden got only 800 the other day.

269 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:19:10am
270 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:19:29am

re: #262 spidly

Incoming.

/maybe

271 Salamantis  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:22:12am

re: #241 victor_yugo

Wow, that almost sounds like the Sokal affair or SCIgen.

I find this to be exceedingly funny, since I used the Sokal Affair as an answer when spidly tried to pull some Thomas Kuhn postmodern crapola on another thread a while back.

272 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:22:45am

re: #269 Wyatt Earp

My (hopefully funny) take on political smears.

If I may make a suggestion, gray type on a cream background is a bit difficult for older eyes to see. Other combos to avoid when you want folks to read something - anything on black or blue.

273 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:26:48am

re: #271 Salamantis

I find this to be exceedingly funny

/who doesn't?

274 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:27:06am

re: #40 spidly

How right you are! The High Holidays are almost upon us, indeed.

Hoping the you and all the other Jewish Lizards will be inscribed in the Book of Life for a New Year of Happiness, Health and Prosperity.

275 Geepers  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:29:12am

galloping granny (#219),

There is a ski game out that comes with WiiFit. There are 40 or 50 games all told. Even a jogging course.

Someone will no doubt come up with a laundry "game", a cleaning the kitchen "game" and a going to the bathroom "game" and then our lives will be complete.

276 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:40:35am
277 Bubblehead II  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:47:22am

Good morning from Vicksburg, Ms. 14 day till I am back where I belong.

Well I don't know if it's racist or not as that is a term that gets thrown around pretty casually now a day when it come to the O, but it is funny.

Obama Waffles

278 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:48:07am

Good morning, Lizards

Lizard Prayer List 9/14/08
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope

Seeking Updates*PLEASE check carefully--I'm so afraid I forgot to save the last update.
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.


Thanksgivings

Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke, practically fully recovered
Loppyd: future plans

Health issues:
Pingjockey: friend Bob with a carcinoma, recovering from surgery
LeePro: major oral surgery in July
A Lizard who underwent surgery Monday, 8/17/08
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), which is caused by something else, in most cases rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: recovering from oral surgery, cancer; mom Type II diabetes
Dolphin: friend Stan, open heart surgery
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Vxbush: being tested for wheat allergy
MigueldowninMexico: recovering from stroke
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
loppyd: step-father undergoing treatment for colon cancer
Macker: health issues and treatment
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
LanceKates: dad’s continued recovery from surgery
Tarkus289: father is in hospital; may have pneumonia after two strokes and stage 7 Alzheimer'
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain; facing another surgery
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
BenZacharia: wifffeee’s recovery from surgery
USMC1968: cancer

Family, friend, and life situations:

x-wing: various
vxhush: husband’s rotator cuff surgery & managing everything on her own during recovery
HoosierHoops: 3/5th Marines deploying to Afghanistan in January (son Jordan is a platoon leader)
Mars Needs Neocons: job
Jcm: best result for new foster daughter
Pvt Bin Jammin: best friend’s passing
Josephine: painful loss
Vxbush: daughter traveling overseas
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Sarah: and her husband in the process of moving to Arizona for husband’s schooling
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
wolfie: nephew (USAR) who is being sent into the thick of things in Iraq.
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Maximus: son reports for active duty in August.
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: EH/kids; losing cousin and aunt within 4 months
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
DorianGrey: much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general

Community issues:
Those dealing with the Hurricane Ike
Georgia/Ossetia
Gilad Schalit, for his release.
The contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

279 akak  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:48:17am
UNIFIL soldier trades her blue beret for headscarf during Ramadan

/might as well cover the eyes the way they do their tasks

280 Bubblehead II  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:49:28am

Morning goddess.

281 mac6443  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:51:04am

How would the dude know the darkness was bottomless?
He never let go of the lip he held so dearly and tightly to, that
he would never know.

Reminds me of: Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

282 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:52:18am

re: #268 galloping granny

Is it me, or does it seem like Obama and Biden are spending an inordinate amount of time in New Hampshire? Particularly since they are drawing pretty small crowds - Biden got only 800 the other day.

But Obama got 8,000 yesterday. It's a swing state. Both campaigns will spend as much time there as they can.

283 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:56:59am

re: #96 spidly


“Their secrecy is off the charts,” Mr. Steiner said.

This stupid crap again - THE MOST SECRETIVE ADMIN IN 100,000 YEARS!

I think that just means they're pissed that all the lawyers they sent to Alaska couldn't really find anything...

"They've got to be hiding something!"

Good morning, LGF!

284 Bubblehead II  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:57:09am

McCartney warned against Israel show

Did I miss the memo or do we now have a new term for suicide bombers?

We have what we call 'sacrifice' operatives who will not stand by while he joins in a celebration of their oppression.

scare quotes from the article.

285 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:57:49am

Walk Away

/they love the LGF prayer list, contrarian wise

286 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:01:12am

re: #282 JustMyView

But Obama got 8,000 yesterday. It's a swing state. Both campaigns will spend as much time there as they can.

Alas, JUSTMYVIEW, a New Hampshire Democrat endorses John McCain.

PUMA at work - DEAL WITH IT!

287 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:04:03am

re: #278 goddessoftheclassroom

Great effort.

/many incorrect calls for prayer, I don't know, does that still work?

288 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:04:44am

re: #286 Intrepid

Alas, JUSTMYVIEW, a New Hampshire Democrat endorses John McCain.

PUMA at work - DEAL WITH IT!

That's one, but he'll need more.

289 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:05:40am

re: #288 JustMyView

That's one, but he'll need more.

Oh, he'll get more - the trend is going his way.

290 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:05:41am

re: #240 spidly

waste of time, he is

Hey, ding me too!

291 Right Brain  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:05:50am

I thought to write a note about the sad death of David Foster Wallace, generally considered the best living novelist, by his own hand yesterday.

He is important because he broke with the extreme Left, among which he lived, to write an essay about John McCain entitled in his usual humorous style:

"McCain's Promise: Aboard the Straight Talk Express with John McCain and a Whole Bunch of Actual Reporters, Thinking About Hope"

He wrote this essay in 2000 and then reworked it for the current campaign; he was obviously a supporter of McCain and acknowledged his magnetism despite the spin staff that surrounded him.

We don't know yet why he killed himself, but his was a unique voice that stood out against the detached irony with which the rest of his generation passes through the world.

The front page obit in today's NY Times acknowledges his influence but not his most famous essay, of course.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

292 Geepers  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:06:49am

Trends:

Minnesota Leaning Obama »»» Toss Up McCain +2.4
Indiana Toss Up »»» Leaning McCain McCain +2.4
Florida Toss Up »»» Leaning McCain McCain +2.5
North Carolina Leaning McCain »»» Solid McCain McCain +2.5
Georgia Leaning McCain »»» Solid McCain McCain +2.5

Every change in status is in McCain's favor.

293 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:07:26am

re: #289 Intrepid

Oh, he'll get more - the trend is going his way.

Speaking of, it's already moving McCain's way.

RCP EC Map - Current

294 nonic  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:08:33am

Good morning, people.

No, I don't have a link for this handy, but as I recall it was Thomas Jefferson's idea that ORDINARY CITIZENS should run the country, in turns. He was a "farmer." Washington was a "farmer." Adams was a lawyer. And so forth. The Founding Fathers were all ordinary men who had REAL lives and rose to the occasion to fight for independence and govern a new country.

THAT, in my opinion, is one of the chief appeals of Sarah Palin. THAT, I believe, is the main "lure" of her "narrative." That she was a mother first, and for the sake of her kids got involved in the PTA, then the city council, etc., etc. And the rest is, as they say, history. :-)

McCain was a navy career man, right? Reagan was an actor.

And WHAT, pray tell, was Obama? (Rhetorical question.)

295 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:08:48am

re: #288 JustMyView

That's one, but he'll need more.

Bradley effect

/unfortunate, but snatch that

296 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:09:03am

Goddess, doll: An update from my end.

Still waiting to hear on the wheat allergy thing. Had two stomach polyps removed, four biopsies taken. Results next week.

Hubby got through surgery swimmingly. Doctor didn't have to do much, and he's recovering nicely. Hoping we can stop the additional (paid) help from coming out to help with son and get back to our "regular" life.

Good to see an updated list! Thanks so much for all you do!

297 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:09:36am

re: #287 Killian Bundy

Great effort.

/many incorrect calls for prayer, I don't know, does that still work?

Do you mean there are many requests that are out-of-date? Please tell me what they are, and I'll correct them. I rely on updates.

298 Billy Hank  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:10:19am

Stranger yet. As The One strives to become the 44th president, something started tickling in the back of my mind. I finally remembered. Mark Twain's last story, published posthumously, was "The Mysterious Stranger." [Link: www.shsu.edu...]

It is 1590 in Austria when The Mysterious Stranger comes to village. He promises all sorts of wonders and people believe him. As the story develops, The Mysterious Stranger turns out to be Old Scratch himself, the Devil, Satan, if you will. The name Twain gives him is 44.

Now, I personally put little stock in the notion that a butterfly's wing beat in Beijing can cause a hurricane in the Gulf. Still, did a dying Twain see far enough down the tendrils of time to forecast the arrival of Obama as the potential 44th president? Or is this just a correlation without causation. Ah, the curse of being an English major.

299 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:12:23am

re: #296 vxbush

Goddess, doll: An update from my end.

Still waiting to hear on the wheat allergy thing. Had two stomach polyps removed, four biopsies taken. Results next week.

Hubby got through surgery swimmingly. Doctor didn't have to do much, and he's recovering nicely. Hoping we can stop the additional (paid) help from coming out to help with son and get back to our "regular" life.

Good to see an updated list! Thanks so much for all you do!

I'm so glad your husband's doing so well! I moved him to Thanksgivings. I hope your tests come back the way you hope they do,

300 Opilio  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:13:33am

On the InTrade futures market, McCain's up over 52, with Obama down to around 46. Just 2 weeks ago, Obama contracts were trading around 60, and McCain's were at 38!

301 akak  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:16:12am

re: #294 nonic

And WHAT, pray tell, was Obama? (Rhetorical question.)

Before or after his trip to Pakistan?

302 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:18:01am

re: #298 Billy Hank

Stranger yet. As The One strives to become the 44th president, something started tickling in the back of my mind. I finally remembered. Mark Twain's last story, published posthumously, was "The Mysterious Stranger." [Link: www.shsu.edu...]

It is 1590 in Austria when The Mysterious Stranger comes to village. He promises all sorts of wonders and people believe him. As the story develops, The Mysterious Stranger turns out to be Old Scratch himself, the Devil, Satan, if you will. The name Twain gives him is 44.

Now, I personally put little stock in the notion that a butterfly's wing beat in Beijing can cause a hurricane in the Gulf. Still, did a dying Twain see far enough down the tendrils of time to forecast the arrival of Obama as the potential 44th president? Or is this just a correlation without causation. Ah, the curse of being an English major.

No, no, no, no! Being an English major is BLESSING! :)

303 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:18:04am

re: #291 Right Brain

re: #294 nonic

Good morning, people.

No, I don't have a link for this handy, but as I recall it was Thomas Jefferson's idea that ORDINARY CITIZENS should run the country, in turns. He was a "farmer." Washington was a "farmer." Adams was a lawyer. And so forth. The Founding Fathers were all ordinary men who had REAL lives and rose to the occasion to fight for independence and govern a new country.

THAT, in my opinion, is one of the chief appeals of Sarah Palin. THAT, I believe, is the main "lure" of her "narrative." That she was a mother first, and for the sake of her kids got involved in the PTA, then the city council, etc., etc. And the rest is, as they say, history. :-)

McCain was a navy career man, right? Reagan was an actor.

And WHAT, pray tell, was Obama? (Rhetorical question.)

Funny you should mention that, because there was once this Obamaton who suggested that inexperience might actually be a good thing for an incoming Commander-in-Chief...

304 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:18:35am

re: #303 laZardo

Hmm. Strike out the #291 reference from that.

/should pay more attention where he leaves those things...

305 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:21:19am

re: #297 goddessoftheclassroom

Do you mean there are many requests that are out-of-date? Please tell me what they are, and I'll correct them. I rely on updates.

Everybody deserves prayer. We've been through this before. I cringe at some of the names you include. They've been nominated by others, but do they want to be included? And it's posted on LGF.

/all I'm saying is get doublechecks on the entries

306 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:21:27am

re: #292 Geepers

Trends:

Minnesota Leaning Obama »»» Toss Up McCain +2.4
Indiana Toss Up »»» Leaning McCain McCain +2.4
Florida Toss Up »»» Leaning McCain McCain +2.5
North Carolina Leaning McCain »»» Solid McCain McCain +2.5
Georgia Leaning McCain »»» Solid McCain McCain +2.5

Every change in status is in McCain's favor.

Right, but this is mostly "firming up" as the election gets closer. The only one that is really a surprise is Minnesota. Obama is still ahead there in the RCP poll average, so it seems odd that they moved the state into the toss-up category.

307 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:22:23am

re: #305 Killian Bundy

Everybody deserves prayer. We've been through this before. I cringe at some of the names you include. They've been nominated by others, but do they want to be included? And it's posted on LGF.

/all I'm saying is get doublechecks on the entries

I have.

308 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:24:31am

re: #306 JustMyView

You keep your delusions, JMV. That will help you as your candidate continues to tank in the polls.

309 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:24:36am

re: #293 Intrepid

Speaking of, it's already moving McCain's way.

RCP EC Map - Current

Are you sure? As I read this graph, the state is leaning more toward Obama. That's what the numerical results at the top of the screen show too, but they are from different polls so are not really a time series.

310 Opilio  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:25:10am

re: #293 Intrepid

Speaking of, it's already moving McCain's way.

RCP EC Map - Current

What's really striking about that map: Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania - all tossups?, Oregon & New Jersey - only leaning Obama? He needs every one of those states to win.

311 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:25:31am

re: #309 JustMyView

Whoops! Hit the key before creating the link to the graph in my previous post.

Are you sure? As I read this graph, the state is leaning more toward Obama. That's what the numerical results at the top of the screen show too, but they are from different polls so are not really a time series.

312 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:25:43am
313 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:27:11am

Oops!

314 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:27:42am

re: #182 EIDE_Interface

Randi Rhodes accuses Palin of teenage molestation

Man, just when you thought the left couldn't get any more bat-shit insane. I swear, if McCain wins a landslide, I fear for these people's sanity. They're stuck in a terrible negative feedback loop right now, the only logical ending is suicide.

That's fine, as long as they don't do it the ROP way.

315 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:28:05am

re: #299 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm so glad your husband's doing so well! I moved him to Thanksgivings. I hope your tests come back the way you hope they do,

Absolutely. Many praises for how well he has done.

316 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:29:59am

re: #311 JustMyView

TRENDS! I said trends! Ignore it all you wish, but the TREND IS FOR MCCAIN!

317 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:30:25am

re: #182 EIDE_Interface

Randi Rhodes accuses Palin of teenage molestation

Man, just when you thought the left couldn't get any more bat-shit insane. I swear, if McCain wins a landslide, I fear for these people's sanity. They're stuck in a terrible negative feedback loop right now, the only logical ending is suicide.

And actually, it'd probably be even worse if it's a close election. That would mean that it was stolen!

318 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:30:53am

re: #310 Opilio

What's really striking about that map: Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania - all tossups?, Oregon & New Jersey - only leaning Obama? He needs every one of those states to win.


No, he doesn't need all of them. On this map, all the toss-ups are forced into one side or the other based on current polling. Under those assumptions, he loses Ohio, but still wins the election.

319 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:31:39am

re: #298 Billy Hank

I remember Rush mentioning on Friday that Saul Alinsky, who wrote Rules For Radicals, dedicated the book to Lucifer.

Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgement to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins --or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom --Lucifer

Alinsky, a Chicago community organizer, was a significant influence on Obama.

(Yeah, Alinsky was being postmodern "ironic," but as Baudelaire wrote, "[L]a plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas!")

320 Bubblehead II  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:31:42am

Time to go.

L8R

321 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:32:17am

re: #316 Intrepid

TRENDS! I said trends! Ignore it all you wish, but the TREND IS FOR MCCAIN!

But it's the trend in New Hampshire that I was looking at. There, the trend appears to be in Obama's favor. Of course, in other states, the opposite is true.

322 Opilio  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:32:45am

re: #316 Intrepid

TRENDS! I said trends! Ignore it all you wish, but the TREND IS FOR MCCAIN!

TRENDS? TRENDS? I don't see no stinkin' trends!!! So Obama's dropped 12 points... in 2 weeks... in MINNESOTA...

It's just a flesh wound.

////channeling JMV

323 Opilio  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:33:29am

re: #318 JustMyView

No, he doesn't need all of them. On this map, all the toss-ups are forced into one side or the other based on current polling. Under those assumptions, he loses Ohio, but still wins the election.

You'll note I didn't say he needed OHIO.

324 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:33:30am

re: #316 Intrepid

TRENDS! I said trends! Ignore it all you wish, but the TREND IS FOR MCCAIN!

You don't understand, I think JMV was the one who expected us to be impressed by the "vast crowds" that turned out to see Obama ... in Germany ...

325 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:37:06am

re: #323 Opilio

You'll note I didn't say he needed OHIO.

Right you are. I misread your statement.

326 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:37:18am

Good morning/afternoon/evening/night, Lizrad Nation!
I hope you are all well!

Have there been any more news about Lizards affected by Ike?

327 opnion  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:37:23am

Good Morning all. Just taking a peek to see what your talking a bout.
Saturday Night Live hit some new lows slandering Sarah Palin lsst night.
Nothing about the One.

328 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:39:43am

re: #321 JustMyView

But it's the trend in New Hampshire that I was looking at. There, the trend appears to be in Obama's favor. Of course, in other states, the opposite is true.

/I'm sorry, do you understand the Bradley effect?

329 Opilio  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:39:50am

re: #327 opnion

Good Morning all. Just taking a peek to see what your talking a bout.
Saturday Night Live hit some new lows slandering Sarah Palin lsst night.
Nothing about the One.

Fortunately, SNL has been irrelevant for about 30 years, give or take.

330 nonic  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:41:02am

re: #303 laZardo

Funny you should mention that, because there was once this Obamaton who suggested that inexperience might actually be a good thing for an incoming Commander-in-Chief...

But it's not about experience or inexperience for the job -- nobody has experience being President.

It's about having roots (you should excuse the expression), having a stake in real life, I think what a lot of people see and admire in Palin is that she is a "real person." Not just a parasitic life-long politician.

I was struck by the comment Obama made the other day when he had a private pow-wow with Bill Clinton. Obama was all smiles and said that Clinton "knows something about politics."

Right. Politics. Not principles. Exactly.

331 opnion  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:41:14am

re: #329 Opilio

Fortunately, SNL has been irrelevant for about 30 years, give or take.

332 Opilio  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:41:59am

re: #328 Killian Bundy

/I'm sorry, do you understand the Bradley effect?

I seem to recall the Bradley effect was demonstrated earlier this year in none other than the state of New Hampshire, in the Dem primary.

333 quickjustice  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:42:19am

Page One, N.Y. Times this morning: Palin helped her friends and hurt her foes in Alaska! A Scandal! /sarc

At this rate, Pinch will have his crack N.Y. Times investigative reporters looking at moose entrails for a sign!

334 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:42:32am

re: #324 Tigger2005

You don't understand, I think JMV was the one who expected us to be impressed by the "vast crowds" that turned out to see Obama ... in Germany ...

Meanwhile, tickets for Gov Palin's appearances are selling like hotcakes, causing the event planners to get a bigger venue.

Heh.

335 opnion  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:42:47am

re: #331 opnion

re: #329 Opilio

Fortunately, SNL has been irrelevant for about 30 years, give or take.


That's a fact. They are not funny.The writing is not good & neither is the cast

336 shug  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:43:00am

Maam, would you like a middle seat, window seat, or aisle ?

Yes

337 JSK1121  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:44:23am

The Dude abides.

338 quickjustice  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:44:33am

re: #327 opnion

SNL hit some home runs with their earlier depictions of Obama and Hillary. It's too late in the game for them to score on Palin, however.

339 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:45:20am

Ok, who is "Pinch"?

340 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:45:31am

re: #329 Opilio

Fortunately, SNL has been irrelevant for about 30 years, give or take.

I mean, who were the last "stars" to make it from SNL?

Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, Chris Farley, and David Spade?

341 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:45:32am

re: #303 laZardo

re: #294 nonic

Funny you should mention that, because there was once this Obamaton who suggested that inexperience might actually be a good thing for an incoming Commander-in-Chief...

I definitely don't think the Founding Fathers would have suggested that any Tom Dick or Harry off the street could be President. But I don't think they would have wanted the Presidency to be monopolized by lawyers or career politicians either. Before becoming Mayor of her town, Palin had experience running a business. Then she gained executive experience as a mayor and head of a commission, before becoming a governor. Obama really has no comparable experience.

Sarah is actually more experienced than Harry S Truman (with the exception that Truman commanded men in combat), and it's probable she will have a lot more on-the-job training than Truman did. Roosevelt, a wealthy patrician type, had little respect for the utterly ordinary and middle-class Truman and mostly ignored him.

342 quickjustice  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:47:14am

re: #339 Intrepid

Pinch Sulzberger, who's now operating the N.Y. Times on behalf of the Sulzberger family. "Twit who panders to the N.Y. liberal elite" is a polite way to characterize him.

343 shug  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:47:41am

re: #339 Intrepid

son of a punch

344 JSK1121  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:48:04am

re: #340 Dar ul Harb

I mean, who were the last "stars" to make it from SNL?

Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, Chris Farley, and David Spade?

Don't forget Mike Myers and Phil Hartman. That was truly the last great collection of talent they've had since the original cast. Quite a shame that this cast left over ten years ago.

345 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:48:15am

re: #342 quickjustice

Pinch Sulzberger, who's now operating the N.Y. Times on behalf of the Sulzberger family. "Twit who panders to the N.Y. liberal elite" is a polite way to characterize him.

Ah, gotcha. So he's the one who has turned what was once a decent source of news into a scandal rag?

spit

346 shug  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:48:39am

re: #340 Dar ul Harb

and Will Ferrill

347 quickjustice  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:48:42am

re: #343 shug

Yes, and son of a "witch"! ;-)

348 Billy Hank  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:48:46am

re: #302 goddessoftheclassroom
'Tis both a blessing and a curse. Steeped in the New Criticism, it is hard to come to any expression or event without seeking influences and antecedents. This was compounded by taking Greek Literature in Translation my freshman year. Talk about a heavy reading load. Thereafter, when stuck for a topic, I could always dash off "The Influence of Greek Literature on...". It is like knowing a good bit of the Narrative DNA Genome of Western Civilization.

349 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:49:17am

Good morning all y'all - from a warm (72 degrees, going up to 93 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

350 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:49:19am

re: #343 shug

son of a punch

Ba dum pum.

heh

351 quickjustice  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:50:29am

re: #345 Intrepid

He's rapidly steering the family's cash cow into the hamburger machine. Worse, he's an effete vegetarian!

352 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:51:11am

re: #344 JSK1121

Don't forget Mike Myers and Phil Hartman. That was truly the last great collection of talent they've had since the original cast. Quite a shame that this cast left over ten years ago.

Dana Carvey was good. Church Lady!

"Now isn't that special."
"Could it be ... SATAN?"

353 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:51:34am

re: #348 Billy Hank

'Tis both a blessing and a curse. Steeped in the New Criticism, it is hard to come to any expression or event without seeking influences and antecedents. This was compounded by taking Greek Literature in Translation my freshman year. Talk about a heavy reading load. Thereafter, when stuck for a topic, I could always dash off "The Influence of Greek Literature on...". It is like knowing a good bit of the Narrative DNA Genome of Western Civilization.

Wow, I too took Greek Lit! It astounds me that many English teachers are unacquainted with the classics.

Critical theory is just a dinner party game and an excuse for professor to publish repackaged drivel.

354 Billy Hank  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:52:40am

re: #319 Dar ul Harb

Yes. It is Obama's link to Alinksky with his Lucifer dedication that pushed the memory cells into action. What does astonish me is how little we actually know Obama, his past and future plans. What little we do know scares the bejeebers out of me. Nobama44.

355 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:53:03am

re: #349 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a warm (72 degrees, going up to 93 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

Hiya, rw - its still nice and dry here, but the early, lovely sunshine has gone and have hazy grey clouds covering the skies.

How are you doing?

356 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:53:20am

re: #328 Killian Bundy

/I'm sorry, do you understand the Bradley effect?

There is no reason to think that whatever impact the Bradley effect might have has changed over the past few months. That is, people may be overreporting favorable views of Obama, but there is little reason to think they are more likely to do so in September than they were in June. Thus, the Bradley effect doesn't account for the uptick in Obama's poll results in NH.

357 quickjustice  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:53:53am

re: #353 goddessoftheclassroom

Are you kidding? Herman Badillo is battling to reintroduce Shakespeare to public school English classes in NYC!

358 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:55:51am

re: #353 goddessoftheclassroom Hey good morning {goddess}! Hope you're well today! When you get a chance, please check your e-mail!

359 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:57:01am

Why are these hurricanes so anxious to make landfall? If they'd just stay out to sea, they'd remain big & bad ...

360 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:57:15am

re: #357 quickjustice

Are you kidding? Herman Badillo is battling to reintroduce Shakespeare to public school English classes in NYC!

It's heartbreaking that Shakespeare has to be "reintroduced."

When I taught 10th grade, there was a list of novels from which the teacher could choose. One that I refused to teach was The Catcher in the Rye. When my students asked me why I wouldn't assign it when the other English teachers were, I said, "You don't need me to teach it to you. You can understand it on your own. You DO need me to teach The Scarlet Letter."

End of argument.

361 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:57:21am

re: #355 yma o hyd
Hi back at you! I'm doing ok today, thanks! How about yourself - if you get rain do you have any indoor plans (that you can discuss out here, I mean)?!

362 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:57:48am
363 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:59:09am
364 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:59:38am

Hey - has anyone heard from Big Steve? Jorliine reported yesterday that while Jorline saw very little effect from Ike in Corpus Christi, he was worried about Big Steve who is in either Houston or Galveston, sorry I don't remember which.

365 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:59:59am

re: #358 realwest

Hey good morning {goddess}! Hope you're well today! When you get a chance, please check your e-mail!

Done! :)

366 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:00:18am

re: #319 Dar ul Harb

I remember Rush mentioning on Friday that Saul Alinsky, who wrote Rules For Radicals, dedicated the book to Lucifer.

Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgement to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins --or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom --Lucifer

Alinsky, a Chicago community organizer, was a significant influence on Obama.

(Yeah, Alinsky was being postmodern "ironic," but as Baudelaire wrote, "[L]a plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas!")

How's that working out for you, Satan?

367 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:01:17am

re: #344 JSK1121

Don't forget Mike Myers and Phil Hartman. That was truly the last great collection of talent they've had since the original cast. Quite a shame that this cast left over ten years ago.

Hartman and Myers were from a slightly earlier SNL era, per Wikipedia. I wouldn't really mention them in the same class as the others.

Phil Hartman, from 1986
Mike Myers, from 1989
Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, Chris Farley, David Spade all from 1990 (Sandler as writer initially)

SNL needs to hire more Canadians, obviously. ;)

368 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:01:48am
369 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:02:10am

re: #361 realwest

Hi back at you! I'm doing ok today, thanks! How about yourself - if you get rain do you have any indoor plans (that you can discuss out here, I mean)?!

Indoor plans - ah ... generally involve books, perusing the papers (done that already) and feeding my LGF addiction :-)

Oh - and Miss Dog likes attention coming her way, like cuddles, little games involving bouncy round objects, and her food bowl ...

All very innocent!

370 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:02:31am

re: #349 realwest

I got yer e-mail. Hopefully if/when Obama loses, I can watch the mob implode upon themselves from my secret Zionist 12th-story viewing box. (:

371 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:03:47am

re: #368 taxfreekiller
Good morning TFK! Thanks for that info - how are you doing this morning?

372 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:04:20am

re: #362 buzzsawmonkey

That can only improve the level of street discourse in New York; "Avaunt, thou dastardly mo' fo'!"

"Alas, poor Big Pussy. I knew him, Tony."
/wait, that's Jersey

373 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:04:25am

re: #272 galloping granny

If I may make a suggestion, gray type on a cream background is a bit difficult for older eyes to see. Other combos to avoid when you want folks to read something - anything on black or blue.

My apologies, ma'am.

374 Billy Hank  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:04:38am

re: #353 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm not an English teacher, although I could probably play one on TV. I started out as a poet, but found the pay too poor. I didn't have the patience to become a professor. The Unified Field Theory of the MLA, the search for the Eighth Type of Ambiguity held little fascination for me. Standing up and talking about poetry and drama would be fun but the Administrivia would be wearing.

375 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:04:55am

re: #369 yma o hyd
"All very innocent!"
Ah, I'm sorry to hear that for you! LOL!

376 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:04:55am
377 Neo_  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:06:19am
"We’re going to have a bold energy plan that says that we are going to reduce our dependence on foreign oil by 20 or 30 percent over the course of a decade or two. We are going to ask all citizens to participate in that process, not just government, but each and every one of us are going to have — are going to make commitments in terms of increasing fuel efficiency in our cars and homes, and the government is going to be in partnership with citizens to make that happen.." -- Obama at Columbia

Interesting that virtually nobody seemed to notice this metric. It's even more detailed than the Obama web site.

With all the ads from people telling us ... energy independent in 10 years, and the U.S. 70% dependent on foreign oil .. it will be at least 3 or 4 decades to be independent.

With cries for "energy independence" dating back to before Carter, somehow Obama's plan doesn't seem very bold and it certainly isn't independence any time soon. It may slow the bleeding, but it really underscores the necessity of opting for all energy sources.

378 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:07:11am

re: #370 laZardo
Good afternoon laZardo! Hopefully - and God forbid - if Obama wins, you can watch from the same place!
Some bad craziness already over this election. I honestly don't recall a time in my life when the level of discourse about politics has reached such a low level of civility.

379 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:08:05am

re: #378 realwest

Good afternoon laZardo! Hopefully - and God forbid - if Obama wins, you can watch from the same place!
Some bad craziness already over this election. I honestly don't recall a time in my life when the level of discourse about politics has reached such a low level of civility.


And Obama claimed he wouldn't pursue a negative campaign, but is crucifying McCain for doing so. Oh, the horror!

380 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:08:19am
381 JSK1121  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:08:46am

re: #367 Dar ul Harb

Hartman and Myers were from a slightly earlier SNL era, per Wikipedia. I wouldn't really mention them in the same class as the others.

Phil Hartman, from 1986
Mike Myers, from 1989
Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, Chris Farley, David Spade all from 1990 (Sandler as writer initially)

SNL needs to hire more Canadians, obviously. ;)

Wikipedia also claims that Kim Jong Il shoots 3-4 holes in one per round of golf. Pre-stroke, of course.

382 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:09:01am

re: #375 realwest

G'morning, Real. Had your waffles yet? ;o)

383 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:09:01am

re: #376 taxfreekiller

tfk's Acorn spy in New Mexico says they are getting real unsure of what to do, one leader says, it looks like we have a problem, if we twik it to much they will see it,,,,,

nice

Do tell!

384 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:11:04am

re: #378 realwest

Hopefully it'll feed into the "youth voters'" vicious cycle of cynicism (and I thought mine was bad...) and this year Obama could get Barred instead of Nadered.

385 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:11:21am

re: #377 Neo_
Well keep in mind that Obama still hasn't even mentioned nuclear power in any of his "energy independence" speeches and yet that is probably the single biggest and fastest way for the US to seriously move to energy independence. Course, we know he hasn't mentioned it because the "activist" arm of the Democratic Left Party can't abide the thought of nuclear power, even though the country most of them admire the most (France) gets over 70% of it's electricity from nuclear power.

386 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:11:32am

re: #374 Billy Hank

I'm not an English teacher, although I could probably play one on TV. I started out as a poet, but found the pay too poor. I didn't have the patience to become a professor. The Unified Field Theory of the MLA, the search for the Eighth Type of Ambiguity held little fascination for me. Standing up and talking about poetry and drama would be fun but the Administrivia would be wearing.

I'm a public school junior high English teacher, and I LOVE it. I almost finished my Ph.D., but life became too complicated to write the dissertation, and I'm okay with that.

The paperwork side of my job is indeed tedious, but the benefits are worth it to me. Each of us has his or her own calling.

387 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:12:38am

re: #379 Wyatt Earp

That's why all the bodies are under the bus? Cuz he's runnin' in 'clear' air?

Right.

388 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:13:10am

So last night I'm sitting in a church yard eating my onion rings and a guy walks up to me and says: "Do you want to buy my shoes"? "Size 10"?

What do you do?

389 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:13:23am

re: #346 shug

and Will Ferrell

O.K., he's really the most recent SNL "star" performer. I haven't seen enough of his stuff to comment, except for maybe the "More Cowbell" skit, and his portrayal of W. in late 2000 (before the election) imagining the Bush presidency as an out-of-control disaster, and a Gore presidency putting everyone to sleep.

390 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:13:58am

re: #387 Cap'n DOC

That's why all the bodies are under the bus? Cuz he's runnin' in 'clear' air?

Right.

Clear air, but a bloody undercarriage. Heh. Friggin' hypocrite.

I still worry that he may win this thing, though. Hope I'm wrong.

391 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:14:07am

re: #388 Attaboid

So last night I'm sitting in a church yard eating my onion rings and a guy walks up to me and says: "Do you want to buy my shoes"? "Size 10"?

What do you do?

How much?

392 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:14:10am

re: #385 realwest

My memories of ecoprop remind me that the one constant concern for nuclear power despite the safety protocols in place since 3MI and Chernobyl is that of where the waste is supposed to go.

I remember reading that it is possible to recycle the waste, only one would also end up with weapons-ready plutonium as a byproduct.

393 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:14:41am

re: #388 Attaboid

So last night I'm sitting in a church yard eating my onion rings and a guy walks up to me and says: "Do you want to buy my shoes"? "Size 10"?

What do you do?

Pardon my flippant answer, please. I'd have given him my onion rings.

394 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:14:45am
395 JSK1121  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:14:49am

re: #388 Attaboid

So last night I'm sitting in a church yard eating my onion rings and a guy walks up to me and says: "Do you want to buy my shoes"? "Size 10"?

What do you do?

Pull a Barry and say; "Why can't I just eat my onion rings?"

396 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:17:14am

re: #388 Attaboid

So last night I'm sitting in a church yard eating my onion rings and a guy walks up to me and says: "Do you want to buy my shoes"? "Size 10"?

What do you do?

Forgive my curiosity, but why were you eating onion rings in a church yard?

(I assume that it was the lawn area around a church, not a "church yard" as in cemetery--that would be even more surreal).

397 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:17:57am

re: #379 Wyatt Earp
Morning Wyatt - "Oh the horror" indeed - Obama's campaign, even though by now they know it's a lie, is still running that despicable ad about McCain being computer illiterate.
They know very well why he can't type, and the fact that they ran this ad AT ALL indicates the lack of experience that they've had in running an election against a proven candidate who's fighting tooth and nail against them (and yeah, I know, Hillary fought the good fight, but she took too long, IMO, to start really fighting Obama in the primaries). Now all McCain has to do is run that ad by Obama with one of his "on top of it" about his days as a prisoner of the North Vietnamese and then mention that he co-chairs the Senate Select Subcommittee on telecommunications and the internet and has done so for YEARS. Then show him dictating e-mails to Cindy. Bye-bye Obama.

398 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:18:04am

re: #391 MandyManners

After a quick inspection, Addidas, soles hardly worn. I said, "size 10, 10 bucks"

399 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:18:04am

re: #385 realwest

Well keep in mind that Obama still hasn't even mentioned nuclear power in any of his "energy independence" speeches and yet that is probably the single biggest and fastest way for the US to seriously move to energy independence. Course, we know he hasn't mentioned it because the "activist" arm of the Democratic Left Party can't abide the thought of nuclear power, even though the country most of them admire the most (France) gets over 70% of it's electricity from nuclear power.

I;m not sure about his speeches, but he talks about nulear energy in the energy plan posted on his web site.

400 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:18:39am

re: #397 realwest

Morning Wyatt - "Oh the horror" indeed - Obama's campaign, even though by now they know it's a lie, is still running that despicable ad about McCain being computer illiterate.
They know very well why he can't type, and the fact that they ran this ad AT ALL indicates the lack of experience that they've had in running an election against a proven candidate who's fighting tooth and nail against them (and yeah, I know, Hillary fought the good fight, but she took too long, IMO, to start really fighting Obama in the primaries). Now all McCain has to do is run that ad by Obama with one of his "on top of it" about his days as a prisoner of the North Vietnamese and then mention that he co-chairs the Senate Select Subcommittee on telecommunications and the internet and has done so for YEARS. Then show him dictating e-mails to Cindy. Bye-bye Obama.

Mornin' Real - Unfortunately, libs never let facts get in the way of a good slander.

401 yah  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:19:05am

Another NYT hit piece on Palin

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

It is starting to get boring.

402 lawhawk  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:19:20am

re: #385 realwest

A while back I noticed how Al Gore was busy talking about green energy, and yet one of the articles claimed that he had included clean coal in the discussion. No one ever appeared to follow up on that particular oddity despite the fact that it seems quite important (to me at least).

Coal is one of the scourges of the eco-left, and if Gore had indeed included it in talking about how to get off the oil train, that would be an admission that his zero-growth days may have ended.

403 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:19:52am

re: #382 Cap'n DOC
Hey good morning Cap'n! Yeah I did, and I perused last night's ID thread and was astounded to see that my last comment didn't show up - musta typed it and shut off the computer without actually posting it, or something.
How are you doing today?

404 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:19:58am

Poor souls ...

But reading this (in that link):
"Those killed include Gen Gennady Troshev, a former commander of Russian forces in Chechnya and military advisor to former Russian President Vladimir Putin.", I am not so sure its just a plain accident ...

405 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:20:08am

re: #396 goddessoftheclassroom

Church Lawn, facing a busy street.

406 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:21:24am

re: #402 lawhawk

Clean coal? I seriously doubt Gore would go for that, as it's carbon, after all.

407 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:21:54am

re: #75 redc1c4

red -

That failure has NOTHING to do with the OS. The surge fried some electronics.
Hope that this time you also bought some kind of surge protector. We get occasional surges/outages - usually no more than a couple of minutes. Another hint, Laptops/Notebooks are per se "outage protected" - as in Battery Power. I would be offline, as I use a cable modem - and - still able to do offline stuff, a reasonable compromise. With dial-up, or wi-fi, chances are you would even be online.

-S-

408 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:21:55am

re: #397 realwest

Good morning form an extremely wet Illinois.

It's been raining hard for 3 days and we are supposed to get it all day again today.

Thankfully, my sump pump is new.

409 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:22:19am

re: #392 laZardo
Well it's true that disposing of nuclear waste IS a problem but only because Sen. Harry Ried (L-NV) blocked a bi-partisian commisssion's UNANIMOUS support for a location in the vast wastelands of Nevada.
But I have no doubt we could find someplace to dispose of it; maybe ship it to France! LOL!

410 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:22:42am

re: #397 realwest

I think Sen. McCain should just continue to be positive with the message.

411 itellu3times  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:23:55am

re: #327 opnion

Good Morning all. Just taking a peek to see what your talking a bout.
Saturday Night Live hit some new lows slandering Sarah Palin lsst night.
Nothing about the One.

Hey the opening skit was fantastic, "Sarah" and "Hillary"

412 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:24:39am

re: #403 realwest

Good! I'm torn, however. Do I go with whole wheat waffles or pancakes? Maple syrup or Huckleberry? LOL.

413 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:25:13am

re: #411 itellu3times

I watched that this AM. It was a hoot.

414 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:25:31am

re: #401 yah

Another NYT hit piece on Palin

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

It is starting to get boring.

Just begs the question why they haven't gone trhough B0's history with the same assiduousness - after all, they've had sufficient time, and he's got a whole wardrobe full of skeletons which are perhaps a bit more worrying to the nation that what some disgruntled Palin-foes now think.

(Wonder how much said foes have been paid to come out with their 'stories' now ...)

415 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:25:32am

re: #404 yma o hyd

Poor souls ...

But reading this (in that link):
"Those killed include Gen Gennady Troshev, a former commander of Russian forces in Chechnya and military advisor to former Russian President Vladimir Putin.", I am not so sure its just a plain accident ...

It looked like a comet? Burning in the air?

416 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:27:05am

re: #414 yma o hyd

Just begs the question why they haven't gone trhough B0's history with the same assiduousness - after all, they've had sufficient time, and he's got a whole wardrobe full of skeletons which are perhaps a bit more worrying to the nation that what some disgruntled Palin-foes now think.

(Wonder how much said foes have been paid to come out with their 'stories' now ...)

It took THREE lib idiots to write that NYT piece?

417 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:27:58am

So I bought the shoes. He walked away in white socks muttering he didnt't need them. Then this street urchin comes and sits near me. Says "that guy just *mumble* his shoes. I say "take the shoes and sell them back to him for 5 bucks.

418 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:29:23am

re: #392 laZardo

My memories of ecoprop remind me that the one constant concern for nuclear power despite the safety protocols in place since 3MI and Chernobyl is that of where the waste is supposed to go.

I remember reading that it is possible to recycle the waste, only one would also end up with weapons-ready plutonium as a byproduct.

It's technically possible, IIRC, to transmute nuclear waste into shorter lived isotopes with a suitable neutron source, and I think what you're talking about is a breeder reactor, right?

419 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:29:26am

re: #415 MandyManners

It looked like a comet? Burning in the air?

So they say ...
Might have an 'innocent' explanation, but if so, - or if not! - we'll never learn, 'tis in Russia, after all!

420 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:29:27am

re: #400 Wyatt Earp
Ya know, I actually giggled when I wrote "morning Wyatt" cause I watched Tombstone last night and recall Doc saying just that to Wyatt Earp in the movie!
Well, all merriment to one side, I don't think it's accurate anymore to call them Liberals - the liberals I used to know back in the early 60's and I would disagree about things, but none of them were so deliberately disingenuous about matters such as these.
And they all loved and respected America. The same is manifestly untrue where Obama is concerned.
And I still think that by not letting the facts bite 'em on the ass, they will wind up paying heavily for that ad - it's not about McCain and computers, it's a very thinly veiled attack on older Americans. And while I give Obama a great deal of credit for energizing the younger base of the Left Party, methinks history will prove out again in this election: Younger voters are activists right up until they are supposed to go and, ya know, actually vote, whereas "older" voters invariably turn out in very high numbers to pull the lever in November.

421 Ben Hur  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:29:49am

McCartney warned against Israel show

Former Beatle Sir Paul McCartney's decision to perform in Tel Aviv has made him the target of a terror attack following a threat made against the singer by extremist Islamic leader Omar Bakri.

And he's SHOCKED!

SHOCKED!

422 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:29:50am

re: #417 Attaboid

So I bought the shoes. He walked away in white socks muttering he didnt't need them. Then this street urchin comes and sits near me. Says "that guy just *mumble* his shoes. I say "take the shoes and sell them back to him for 5 bucks.


I was so hoping that there was this kind of ending to the story. I admire your sensitivity and compassion.

423 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:32:04am

re: #418 Dar ul Harb

I never got past the "recycling" and "plutonium" bits, actually...

424 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:32:07am

re: #420 realwest

Ya know, I actually giggled when I wrote "morning Wyatt" cause I watched Tombstone last night and recall Doc saying just that to Wyatt Earp in the movie!
Well, all merriment to one side, I don't think it's accurate anymore to call them Liberals - the liberals I used to know back in the early 60's and I would disagree about things, but none of them were so deliberately disingenuous about matters such as these.
And they all loved and respected America. The same is manifestly untrue where Obama is concerned.
And I still think that by not letting the facts bite 'em on the ass, they will wind up paying heavily for that ad - it's not about McCain and computers, it's a very thinly veiled attack on older Americans. And while I give Obama a great deal of credit for energizing the younger base of the Left Party, methinks history will prove out again in this election: Younger voters are activists right up until they are supposed to go and, ya know, actually vote, whereas "older" voters invariably turn out in very high numbers to pull the lever in November.

Terrific movie, by the way. I agree, though: these new liberals are much more disgraceful than those of old. They are indeed the Hate America First crowd.

425 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:33:26am

re: #402 lawhawkCoal is one of the scourges of the eco-left, and if Gore had indeed included it in talking about how to get off the oil train, that would be an admission that his zero-growth days may have ended.

Yeah, coal is all, like, black and grimy, and stuff.