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Open | Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:59:59 pm PDT

Darkness washed over the Dude - darker’n a black steer’s tuchus on a moonless prairie night. There was no bottom.

— The Stranger, The Big Lebowski

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1 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:01:20am

Darn, I was off by 3 minutes and one second. Good morning late night and dead threaders.

2 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:01:53am

it... has..... ARRIVED!

3 hans ze beeman  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:02:35am

Muslims: We'll take over Downing Street

He [Choudary] roared: “We do not integrate into Christianity. We will ensure that one day you will integrate into the Sharia Islamic law. Our eyes are on Downing Street.”

4 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:02:41am

And about time too. I tried, and tried, but I couldn't derail the last thread. Ah, well. Hope this one is more peaceful and nice.

5 cliffster  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:03:23am

Freedom. I push buttons, and buttons respond!

6 I slam Islam  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:03:33am

RIDDLE:

WHAT DO YOU GET WHEN YOU MIX HITLER WITH OBAMA?

ANSWER:

This is hilarious! I hope it goes viral!

7 Temujin  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:04:28am

re: #1 BlueCanuck

Darn, I was off by 3 minutes and one second. Good morning late night and dead threaders.

As I said on the previous thread -

don't you just hate being right all the time ?

8 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:05:30am

re: #3 hans ze beeman

Yeah they sometimes don't speak it but are a little more subtle about it.

9 Inquisitive  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:06:31am

.re: #1 BlueCanuck

Darn, I was off by 3 minutes and one second. Good morning late night and dead threaders.


Good morning and with that I think I will say it is time for this one to go and lay my head on a pillow for a little while. Thanks to all for keeping me company once again,........it has been very educational and entertaining as usual. Be well dear friends and prayers for all.

10 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:06:56am
11 Pshawalaw  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:07:24am

How ironic, I just finished watching PBS run the Billy Joel "The Stranger" video and then I come to LGF and find a quote titled "the stranger".

12 LotharBot  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:09:02am

So Charles, any chance you're going to pick up the latest Dan Rather story?

Dan Rather uncovers Martin Luther King Jr. memo endorsing Obama by name

(Written by my good friend Tim...)

13 cliffster  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:09:08am

re: #6 I slam Islam

I like the Cowboys version better. I was saving this Terrell Owens jersey for the superbowl!

14 Dahveed  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:09:57am
Darkness washed over the Dude - darker’n a black steer’s tuchus on a moonless prairie night. There was no bottom.

— The Stranger, The Big Lebowski

One of my favorite movies. One that can be watched over and over again and it doesn't get tiring.

15 Xenobyte  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:12:20am

So... now the islamists want to poison the water supply of Denmark (my country) and kill thousands as a 'retaliation for insulting the Prophet Muhammad through publication of the infamous “Muhammad cartoons.”'
Source: [Link: jamestown.org...]

Sounds like a fair balance - an insult vs. the death of thousands of random civilians... Yup, that's the RoP for ya! :)

16 TonyR  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:14:42am

re: #12 LotharBot

Nice find. A perfect nightcap!

17 Temujin  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:15:14am

Little-known SP fact #1173: Sarah Palin is the Fifth Horseperson of the Apocalypse.

18 Jinx  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:15:28am

But there's a full moon out tonight! And I sure as hell have seen it in everybody's actions today.

19 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:17:00am

re: #17 Temujin

The first four are Chuck Norris's fists and roundhouse kicks.

20 Colonel Panik  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:17:41am

re: #17 Temujin

Little-known SP fact #1173: Sarah Palin is the Fifth Horseperson of the Apocalypse.

No she is the first MoosePerson of the Obamaclypse.

21 rabidfox  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:18:03am

re: #15 Xenobyte

Well, I hope more than just the blogosphere is noticing that particular thread.

22 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:18:11am

Wow...came in just in time for the overnight thread.

How are the lizards in the path of Ike holding up? Are they incommunicado at all?

23 Pshawalaw  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:18:30am

re: #12 LotharBot

So Charles, any chance you're going to pick up the latest Dan Rather story?

Dan Rather uncovers Martin Luther King Jr. memo endorsing Obama by name

(Written by my good friend Tim...)

Surprisingly it isn't written in quatrains?

24 Temujin  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:19:26am

re: #19 victor_yugo

re: #20 Colonel Panik

Don't you guys know any better than to mention Comment # 17 ?

25 Neo Con since 9-11  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:19:50am

Bit o' sanity from the MSM

ABC's Gibson grilled Palin hard, but it may backfire
Charles Gibson of ABC News was out for blood and inherently applied a double-standard compared with the kid gloves George Stephanopoulos used on Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois on Sunday night.
26 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:21:04am

ploome hineni:

I answered your question on the previous thread.

27 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:22:07am

Anybody else miss Tim Russert right about now? I'd love to see a Tim R interview with Sarah Palin. Now that would be way better than Charlie Gibson.

RIP Tim Russert

28 Pshawalaw  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:23:15am

re: #24 Temujin

re: #20 Colonel Panik

Don't you guys know any better than to mention Comment # 17 ?

Why is that?

29 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:23:25am

re: #1 BlueCanuck

Well, I cheerfully concede that you were MUCH closer than was I!

30 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:23:34am

re: #17 Temujin

Little-known SP fact #1173: Sarah Palin is the Fifth Horseperson of the Apocalypse.

Heh - Horseperson.....that's funny.

31 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:23:51am

I saw my first real live burqini in disney worldre: #15 Xenobyte

where are you?

32 Colonel Panik  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:24:41am

re: #24 Temujin

re: #20 Colonel Panik

Don't you guys know any better than to mention Comment # 17 ?

And yea, it shall be that in the 8th Month of the Year of '08...that out of the frozen wastes of the North shall come a mighty Amazon Hockeymom warrior on Mooseback, wielding an M4 carbine, and striking terror into the hearts of the Moonbats.

The Obamaclypse and the Revelation of St. John the Aviator

33 Temujin  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:25:03am

re: #25 Neo Con since 9-11

Gibson himself interviewed Obama during the early primary season.

With the standard MSM kid-glove treatment.

Pompous, arrogant POS . . .

/Gibson, I mean . . .

34 Temujin  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:26:19am

re: #28 Pshawalaw

Why is that?

Ask Charles !

35 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:26:59am

re: #33 Temujin

Gibson himself interviewed Obama during the early primary season.
With the standard MSM kid-glove treatment.
Pompous, arrogant POS . . .
/Gibson, I mean . . .

Well, maybe THIS is the year it backfires SEVERELY, and helps in the Obama smackdown he's about to receive!

36 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:27:18am

re: #32 Colonel Panik

And yea, it shall be that in the 8th Month of the Year of '08...that out of the frozen wastes of the North shall come a mighty Amazon Hockeymom warrior on Mooseback, wielding an M4 carbine, and striking terror into the hearts of the Moonbats.

The Obamaclypse and the Revelation of St. John the Aviator

you can put lipstick on the seven seals...

37 Pshawalaw  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:27:40am

re: #34 Temujin

Ask Charles !

And the mystery continues.....

38 Dekar  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:28:06am

Big Lebowski quote, HAHAH! bravo!

39 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:29:17am

re: #37 Pshawalaw

But of course. What's any institution without a little mystery?

40 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:29:58am

re: #14 Dahveed

One of my favorite movies. One that can be watched over and over again and it doesn't get tiring.

Saturday, Donny, is Shabbos, the Jewish day of rest. That means that I don't work, I don't get in a car, I don't fucking ride in a car, I don't pick up the phone, I don't turn on the oven, and I sure as shit don't fucking roll! Shomer shabbos!

41 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:30:07am

re: #37 Pshawalaw

Its kinda an inside joke, of the non sequitur kind... It began several years ago and became a Rotating Title, (upper left) Pshaw...

It refers NOW to, ah, well. you see... lemme call Obama, he'll know!

42 Pshawalaw  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:30:36am

re: #39 BlueCanuck

But of course. What's any institution without a little mystery?

Scientific, maybe?

43 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:30:37am

From the Atlanta Journal/Constitution - "Panic Sets in for Obama"

Heh heh heh

44 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:32:35am

Karridine:

How are things on the street over there?

45 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:32:35am

re: #43 Intrepid

I read that already, Intrepid! GREAT!

Note how commenters FLAY the writer, as if he's not only wrong but vile, accursed and hypocritical for noticing the obvious, PUBLICLY!

46 Pshawalaw  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:34:02am

re: #43 Intrepid

Love this paragraph from that article:


For a “change” candidate, Obama appears to be a man locked in time, unable to move past criticism, unable to move from the grip of the Democratic left, unable to adapt to the changed reality that the campaign is not the referendum on the war in Iraq or on the administration of George W. Bush that he’d envisioned.
47 Spirit93  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:34:40am

re: #28 Pshawalaw

It's in the LGF dictionary, under "tools" in the sidebar.

48 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:35:23am

re: #44 victor_yugo

Wet.

Heavy rains, three days running, scattered cloudbursts today.

Which adds to the misery of those 'protesters' illegally hijacking Thai government... fcrew them! They're STILL lousing up cross-town traffic, STILL bullying the unions, STILL ruining Thai tourism and STILL awaiting the selection of a new prime minister now that they've ousted TWO in three years!

*spit!*

49 Dekar  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:35:33am

Walter: If you will it, it is no dream

Dude: Ur f'in 20 minutes late man, wtf is that

Walter: Theodore Hertzl

Dude: Huh?

Walter: State of Israel, if you will it Dude, it is no dream

Dude: What the f are you talking about man the carrier, whats in the carrier

Walter: huh? OH! Cynthia's dog. I think it's a pomeranian. Can't leave it home alone or it eats the furniture.

50 cliffster  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:36:43am

re: #43 Intrepid

From the Atlanta Journal/Constitution - "Panic Sets in for Obama"

Heh heh heh

"It’s not over. But it’s getting there — and Obama knows it."

That was pretty.. thanks

51 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:36:50am

re: #49 Dekar

The Dude abides.

A lot.

52 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:36:51am

re: #45 Karridine

Hey Karradine - how goes it there in Bangkok? What part of town are you in?

53 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:37:46am

re: #52 Intrepid

See #48 above.

54 Dahveed  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:38:42am

re: #40 spidly

The Big Lebowski: What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?
The Dude: Dude.
The Big Lebowski: Huh?
The Dude: Uhh... I don't know sir.
The Big Lebowski: Is it being prepared to do the right thing, whatever the cost? Isn't that what makes a man?
The Dude: Hmmm... Sure, that and a pair of testicles.

55 cliffster  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:39:40am

re: #54 Dahveed

The Big Lebowski: What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?
The Dude: Dude.
The Big Lebowski: Huh?
The Dude: Uhh... I don't know sir.
The Big Lebowski: Is it being prepared to do the right thing, whatever the cost? Isn't that what makes a man?
The Dude: Hmmm... Sure, that and a pair of testicles.

Nobody fucks with the jesus!

56 Pshawalaw  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:40:11am

re: #47 Spirit93

Thank you, another mystery revealed.

57 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:40:49am

re: #53 victor_yugo

See #48 above.

Got it - but I was just wondering exactly where he was, in office or at home. No biggie.

I know the city a bit, and I was just wondering. Since I lived there for about a decade.

58 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:43:11am

re: #52 Intrepid

See #48, Intrepid, and I live out in the Bangkapi area... near a Mall and a Lotus-Tesco and a Major Cineplex.

Uhhh, no. There's no longer much fish-heads and rice-bowls around here... :D

59 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:43:46am

if anyone wants my opinion, Vista is a complete POS.

the local power people at least partially fried my PC yesterday.

60 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:43:49am
For a “change” candidate, Obama appears to be a man locked in time, unable to move past criticism, unable to move from the grip of the Democratic left, unable to adapt to the changed reality that the campaign is not the referendum on the war in Iraq or on the administration of George W. Bush that he’d envisioned.

still a bunch out there really excited that Obama just may beat George Bush this time around

61 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:44:37am

re: #57 Intrepid

In that case, I'm typing from home. When I comment from work, I log in as Carridine.

And thank you for your service here, in His service...

62 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:45:11am

re: #21 rabidfox

you in DK now?

63 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:45:46am

re: #58 Karridine

See #48, Intrepid, and I live out in the Bangkapi area... near a Mall and a Lotus-Tesco and a Major Cineplex.

Uhhh, no. There's no longer much fish-heads and rice-bowls around here... :D

Hee - I studied for my P. 6 test with a teacher who was close to Bangkapi. Ever heard of Khru Benja?

64 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:46:02am

re: #60 spidly

And they's gonna be excited right up until the time that Obama publicly declares that the 42 states which went Republican were racist, bigoted and anti-American...

He's TOAST, Spid!

65 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:46:25am

re: #59 redc1c4

How can you partially fry a PC? Thought it was all or nothing. Good to see you red. Up to your usual shenanigans?

66 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:46:26am

re: #60 spidly

and some of them are even my friends..... i don't bother arguing, i just smile.

did y'all see the picket sign in this post?
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

67 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:47:17am

re: #63 Intrepid

No, nor has my wife. Tell me more?

68 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:48:29am

re: #64 Karridine

And they's gonna be excited right up until the time that Obama publicly declares that the 42 states which went Republican were racist, bigoted and anti-American...

He's TOAST, Spid!

then begins the riots. everyone topped off their ammo supply?

69 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:49:37am

re: #24 Temujin

*whack*

You mentioned it again!

70 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:49:57am

re: #68 spidly

Unfortunately, you just might be right, but I'm hoping I'm wrong about him, and Obama concedes with at least a modicum of class.

71 rabidfox  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:50:10am

re: #62 spidly Huh? What's DK, please?

72 cliffster  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:51:01am

re: #68 spidly

then begins the riots. everyone topped off their ammo supply?

Funny, but not funny. Remember Rodney King. Ugh

73 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:51:24am

re: #69 MandyManners

Hey Mandy, I thought you went to bed?

/time to be on my best behaviour.

74 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:51:56am

re: #71 rabidfox

Huh? What's DK, please?

dejlige lille Danmark

75 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:52:09am

re: #65 BlueCanuck

How can you partially fry a PC? Thought it was all or nothing. Good to see you red. Up to your usual shenanigans?

not sure what happened: i saw the trucks and went outside to chat, and they assured me the power was going to stay on.

a little later, i was answering an email when the screen went black, along with everything else. it seems someone made a change in the lines but didn't note it on the charts.

power came back, but the PC wouldn't generate a pic. you could hear it boot, but no vid. draged out a relic and got on line. found a recyucler in deepest south OC that had a similar board to mine, so i drove down there on a fryday afternoon, when i was supposed to be studying.

got home, but coudn't get that board to even spin, so this AM we went and got a new PC. didn't have time to do anything but start it up before class, hence my Vista mini-rant above.

went to my old HS after school, but there was nothing worth the visit, so we had an earlyt dinner and came home to watch USC dismantle OSU.

a little TV, a few beers and now to bed, so i can do more school tomorrow.

/but first, tyhe fruitcup! %-)

76 rabidfox  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:52:11am

re: #70 Karridine

It'd be nice, but I'm not sure his wife will let him have class.

77 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:53:00am

First, he called Palin a pig. Then, he made fun of McCain's disabilities.

KEEP IT UP, BHO!

78 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:53:15am

re: #70 Karridine

Unfortunately, you just might be right, but I'm hoping I'm wrong about him, and Obama concedes with at least a modicum of class.

he'd have to have class to exhibit any.

79 Temujin  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:53:16am

re: #69 MandyManners

Oops!

My bad . . .

80 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:53:29am

re: #70 Karridine

Unfortunately, you just might be right, but I'm hoping I'm wrong about him, and Obama concedes with at least a modicum of class.

wont matter if he does, they'll tear shit up.
should make a McCain-Palin lawnsign/claymore

81 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:53:53am

re: #77 MandyManners

First, he called Palin a pig. Then, he made fun of McCain's disabilities.

KEEP IT UP, BHO!

wait'll he tries to teach a pig to sing......

82 cliffster  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:54:13am

re: #77 MandyManners

First, he called Palin a pig. Then, he made fun of McCain's disabilities.

KEEP IT UP, BHO!

There's still lots of time before the election. Right now he's shoring up the 5th grade bully vote.

83 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:54:35am

re: #67 Karridine

No, nor has my wife. Tell me more?

She used to teach at Union, but went out on her own. She teaches in her home, and she is one of the most excellent teachers I have ever encountered. She is good. She can gauge a person's language ability, and then see what it will take to get that person to P.6 proficiency. If she can do it, she'll tell you. If she knows she cannot, she'll tell you that too.

She's expensive - I paid 600 baht per hour with two other friends, but all three of us passed and with flying colors. Studied 3 hours per day, three days per week. And did homework. Golly, did I do homework!

Best teacher I've ever seen, in the US or in Thailand.

84 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:55:25am

re: #69 MandyManners

*whack*

You mentioned it again!

he mentioned Comment #17?

i'll get the comfy chair!

85 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:55:44am

re: #75 redc1c4

Wow, sounds like an interesting day. Just remember the decoys are that away ↑ ↓ ← → .

86 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:58:11am

re: #80 spidly

wont matter if he does, they'll tear shit up.
should make a McCain-Palin lawnsign/claymore

there's many in my AO who are supporters, but i can't see them rioting.... making really bad movies & TV shows about it? yes..... whinning? yes.

getting in my face & threatening me? even they're not that dumb......

/although i did have a BDS sufferer ring the door bell one day. %-)

87 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 12:59:32am

re: #85 BlueCanuck

Wow, sounds like an interesting day. Just remember the decoys are that away ↑ ↓ ← → .

no problem: i always dose those with Obecalp before i go on to the real deal.

88 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:00:04am

Intrepid:

Please see the previous thread. I had an answer to you prepared, but it got interrupted by another, more immediate concern.

89 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:00:17am

re: #73 BlueCanuck

I did but I couldn't sleep. My mom took The Kid to Wal*Mart today, and I took a nap. He spent part of his allowance in the game room then--despite her telling him not to leave it--he took off for the electronics' department. When she got checked out, he was not to be found, and at that minute the store's PA system went dead. Instead of using her head and remembering what I've said about his going to that department after I let him play in the game room, she freaked out. So, people had to be dispatched to all areas of the store to find him. Oooooooooh. She was pissed beyond belief. When he got home he whined that she said she wasn't gonna' take him with her ever again. Servss him right.

90 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:02:11am

re: #89 MandyManners

I did but I couldn't sleep. My mom took The Kid to Wal*Mart today, and I took a nap. He spent part of his allowance in the game room then--despite her telling him not to leave it--he took off for the electronics' department. When she got checked out, he was not to be found, and at that minute the store's PA system went dead. Instead of using her head and remembering what I've said about his going to that department after I let him play in the game room, she freaked out. So, people had to be dispatched to all areas of the store to find him. Oooooooooh. She was pissed beyond belief. When he got home he whined that she said she wasn't gonna' take him with her ever again. Servss him right.

i'm glad my kids only wander into the neighbor's yard once in awhile, and even not that so much anymore. they're better about coming in at twilight too these days.

91 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:02:32am

re: #89 MandyManners

Sounds like fun. Us oldsters keep forgetting young boys have minds of their own and sometimes the attention span of a gold fish. :)


/ooooh shiny thing

92 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:03:20am

I'm gonna' try to get some sleep.

Nighty-night!

93 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:03:51am

re: #87 redc1c4

no problem: i always dose those with Obecalp before i go on to the real deal.

Portland will have a big protest at the very least. We'll have something going on in my neighborhood for sure

94 rawmuse  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:05:10am
95 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:06:38am

*Yawn*

Yet another NYT hit-piece on Gov. Palin.

In all fairness, these are questions that should be asked of any candidate. But was I asleep when they were asking the same hard-hitting questions of our lord and savior Obama? If they were asked, did I sleep through what I'm sure were Obama's direct and comprehesive answers to those questions?

Or were they never asked at all.

/I liked the 'hit critics' part of the headline. Someone needs to smack the NYT upside the head with a clue-by-four. Maybe their stock would stop circling the tank.

96 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:13:40am

re: #95 Fenway_Nation

*Yawn*

Yet another NYT hit-piece on Gov. Palin.

In all fairness, these are questions that should be asked of any candidate. But was I asleep when they were asking the same hard-hitting questions of our lord and savior Obama? If they were asked, did I sleep through what I'm sure were Obama's direct and comprehesive answers to those questions?

Or were they never asked at all.

/I liked the 'hit critics' part of the headline. Someone needs to smack the NYT upside the head with a clue-by-four. Maybe their stock would stop circling the tank.

"Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on loyalty and secrecy. The governor and her top officials sometimes use personal e-mail accounts for state business; dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records."

“Their secrecy is off the charts,” Mr. Steiner said.


This stupid crap again - THE MOST SECRETIVE ADMIN IN 100,000 YEARS!

97 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:16:50am

re: #95 Fenway_Nation

What particularly P's-me-O is the nerve of some people to say that people are being too hard on Obama...

98 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:17:06am

seems as it will be the Bush meme part 2

master of deception evil genius chimpy McBush barbi McPalin the retard

99 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:19:03am

L8r!

100 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:21:18am

Night red, have fun in class tomorrow.

101 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:22:23am

re: #99 redc1c4

Cheers.

102 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:34:34am

re: #88 victor_yugo

re: #88 victor_yugo

And I answered with my response about prayer.

103 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:37:55am

re: #102 Intrepid

Yup yup, saw it.

104 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:39:28am

re: #89 MandyManners

Heh - my niece (now 27) when she was little snuck into the middle of the blue jeans rack and sat there, as my sister and mother called out her name in a frantic manner. And when my sister went close to the blue-jeans rack, still looking for her little girl, my niece called out "HERE ME IS!".

We still tease her about it. But my sister still shakes her head and says, "I will never forget that day".

105 rabidfox  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:41:45am

nite all.

106 Xenobyte  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:47:43am

DK = Denmark

It's a lovely little country in northwestern Europe in the region of Scandinavia mostly known for the works of H.C. Andersen, The Little Mermaid and the Mohammad cartoons... ;)

More general info here: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

PS: Yes, I'm danish, living in a city about 12 miles west of Copenhagen.

107 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:47:55am

For the first time since I signed up, the previous thread is sustaining more activity than the current thread.

108 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:50:03am

re: #104 Intrepid

designated chauffeur for my sister in laws bachelorette night. she'd been called up on stage at a comedy/piano bar and the guy had called her Mother Theresa for not going along with his bawdy routine.

driving them to the next bar she complained about him and said I'm not Mother Fuckin' Theresa, I'm Katy Fuckin' MaidenName

so she is forever called that

109 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:51:39am

re: #107 victor_yugo

It happens sometimes. Especially when lizards blood gets heated about certain topics. Religion and evolution are usually what gets it going.

110 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:55:06am

re: #109 BlueCanuck

Didn't the shit hit the fan over that whole VB thing as well?

111 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:55:37am

re: #104 Intrepid

re: #108 spidly


Heh, the importance of making sure your offspring know their proper names. My parents back in the day used to call my youngest brother Bruce Rascal. He always has been an impish fellow. Well one day we were in a mall and he was about three and got seperated from the family group. My parents discovered this and were searching frantically. Well over the mall PA system comes the announcement, "Would the parents of Bruce Rascal please come to the security desk." Well my parents had a little difficulty with the security guards after showing I.D., and trying to explain to them that no his last name wasn't rascal. But it was obvious that he recognized them with happy glee. Afterwards they made sure he knew his proper last name.

112 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:56:38am

re: #110 Fenway_Nation

Yeah, I remember that. Wasn't posting much back then but blood and sticks were flying with that whole debacle. Stopped going to certain blogs as well when all was said and done.

113 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:56:41am

re: #106 Xenobyte

DK = Denmark

It's a lovely little country in northwestern Europe in the region of Scandinavia mostly known for the works of H.C. Andersen, The Little Mermaid and the Mohammad cartoons... ;)

More general info here: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

PS: Yes, I'm danish, living in a city about 12 miles west of Copenhagen.

jeg boede på Amager i 1987-88. Min Dansk er lort nu som jeg har glempt så meget. Jeg har ikke nogen at taler med og det er ikke ofte jeg læser avisen eller min boger.

114 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 1:59:58am

While awaiting an answer from Blue, I notice the eerie silence that has been cast over this thread and suddenly realize that we are mere moments away from another bountiful fruitcup appearence from littleoldlady

115 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:00:00am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------------->
Help yourselves!

116 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:00:19am

w00t!

117 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:00:40am

Right on time!

118 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:01:05am

re: #115 littleoldlady

W00000T!1111! Thanks litttleoldlady. Have you checked your Power ball today?

119 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:02:41am

re: #118 BlueCanuck

BlueCanuck! :-)

Have you checked your Power ball today?

Yeah.
/verybigsigh :-(

Fenway! :-)

/I hope I found my previously lost mojo... ;-)

120 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:04:15am

re: #115 littleoldlady

FRRRRRUUUUUITCUUUUUUUUUP!

/{lol}

121 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:04:17am

re: #119 littleoldlady

when Obama is president everyone will win powerball

122 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:04:48am

Wow - I even showed up while there was still some fruitcup left! How are all you nice folks today?

123 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:04:48am

re: #119 littleoldlady

Fenway! :-)

/I hope I found my previously lost mojo... ;-)


Was it next to some AA batteries in the junk drawer? Thats the last place I remember seeing my mojo...

124 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:04:55am

I'm sorry, I'm Salamantis wary. Dude is a military veteran, an expert on every subject, has the degree, and has posted unreadable "articles" for every subject on MySpace He's also been known to regale everyone with "near death bowel problems"

/just me, I could be wrong, but I'm not buying that reality

125 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:05:13am

laZardo, baby! :-)

How's school?

/Sorry, I have to ask. When I ask my own kid she doesn't answer...

126 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:05:19am

re: #121 spidly

when Obama is president everyone will win powerball

127 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:05:47am

Morning granny, how's things in your neck of the woods?

128 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:06:05am

re: #121 spidly

when Obama is president everyone will HOPE to win powerball

spidly! :-)

129 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:06:26am

re: #124 Killian Bundy

I'm sorry, I'm Salamantis wary. Dude is a military veteran, an expert on every subject, has the degree, and has posted unreadable "articles" for every subject on MySpace He's also been known to regale everyone with "near death bowel problems"

/just me, I could be wrong, but I'm not buying that reality

touch of Cliff Claven

130 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:06:38am

re: #115 littleoldlady

LOL, you are the woman! Fruitcup sounds good right about now....

131 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:06:54am

re: #123 Fenway_Nation

I guess since red isn't here I'm going to have to tell YOU to behave?

;-)

132 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:07:17am

re: #128 littleoldlady

spidly! :-)

fruitcup! Where's Miguel? sleeping finally?

133 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:08:08am

granny! :-)

Intrepid! :-)

Boyz, there's womynz here!

/just sayin'...

134 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:08:23am

re: #127 BlueCanuck

Morning granny, how's things in your neck of the woods?

Now that I am finally rid of the viruses that infested and plagued my poor little machine, I'm fine. You?

135 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:08:46am

re: #114 Fenway_Nation

You called it two seconds ahead!

On my best day, I don't think I could do that.

136 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:09:25am

I noticed that littleoldlady hit the fruitcup time right on the mark today!

CONGRATULATIONS TO LITTLEOLDLATY!

137 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:09:47am

re: #132 spidly

Oy. Don't say that! Miguel had a stroke (and I HOPE it was only one stroke) some time ago and no one has heard from him since shortly thereafter.

:-(

138 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:10:31am

re: #137 littleoldlady

Oy. Don't say that! Miguel had a stroke (and I HOPE it was only one stroke) some time ago and no one has heard from him since shortly thereafter.

:-(

I did not know that. Oh dear, I do hope he is OK. I quite like Miguel.

139 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:10:42am

re: #136 Intrepid

Thankyou. Thankyouverymuch.

;-)

140 BignJames  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:10:53am

re: #129 spidly

touch of Cliff Claven

Master of his universe(s) is still holding forth on the previous thread.

141 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:10:54am

re: #134 galloping granny

Actually got some decent sleep this weekend. Going to have to get some more exercise. That's seeming to help. Still trying to get off this bloody night shift though.

142 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:11:14am

re: #136 Intrepid

er, that's LITTLEOLDLADY!

pimf

143 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:12:03am

re: #142 Intrepid

Not to worry. I spell my name wrong sometimes, too...

144 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:12:11am

re: #137 littleoldlady

balls... I am sort of out of the loop having totally ignored the world after my brother

145 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:13:37am

re: #135 victor_yugo

Usually when I do that, I'm two seconds late...

146 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:13:41am

re: #125 littleoldlady

Just the first week supply-gathering. Nothing requiring too much exertion (yet).

147 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:13:55am

re: #140 BignJames

Master of his universe(s) is still holding forth on the previous thread.

he has a small following. when does hale bop come by again?

148 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:14:45am

re: #147 spidly

Not soon enough?

149 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:16:37am

re: #141 BlueCanuck

Actually got some decent sleep this weekend. Going to have to get some more exercise. That's seeming to help. Still trying to get off this bloody night shift though.

I hated working night shift. Better night shift than not at all though. I'm glad the exercise is helping. If you can lay hands on one, Wii Fit is fun and great for nasty weather.

150 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:17:09am

I just made a mistake.

I went searching for, and found, my ex's pic.

WTF did I do that?

151 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:19:26am

re: #148 BlueCanuck

Not soon enough?

a different kind of troll being fed by people who should know better. Oh well, I got into it with him for a bit until it became apparent he knew not of what he spoke

152 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:19:39am

re: #144 spidly

Understandable... {spidly}

153 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:19:48am

Good morning, and good night all.

re: #150 victor_yugo

I just made a mistake.

I went searching for, and found, my ex's pic.

WTF did I do that?

Um, to scare away your case of the hiccoughs? Just spit-ballin' here...

154 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:20:08am

re: #150 victor_yugo

gotta roll around in misery once in a while

155 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:20:25am

re: #147 spidly

So that's why he was so willing to share his applesauce recipie with the rest of us....

156 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:20:31am

re: #146 laZardo

I hope you get good grades.

/I also hope you'll let me adopt you. ;-)

157 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:20:39am

re: #149 galloping granny

That costs coin. Would rather buy a better camera. Going on walks with the GF and the dog, as well as around the downtown core. Looking for sculptures and other interesting things.

158 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:21:24am

re: #150 victor_yugo

Morbid sense of curiosity?

/happens to the best of us sometimes.

159 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:21:58am

re: #150 victor_yugo

I just made a mistake.

I went searching for, and found, my ex's pic.

WTF did I do that?

Now that you've found it, perhaps you should burn it. Or turn it into confetti.

160 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:22:12am

re: #150 victor_yugo

I just made a mistake.

I went searching for, and found, my ex's pic.

WTF did I do that?

just remember to not romanticise what was. try and stay focused on what sucked

161 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:23:36am

re: #157 BlueCanuck

That costs coin. Would rather buy a better camera. Going on walks with the GF and the dog, as well as around the downtown core. Looking for sculptures and other interesting things.

That is true. I don't go out much once winter sets in - not really anywhere to walk around here, at least not without driving to get there first. And we were lucky and got ours on an Amazon pre-order for $89.

162 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:24:14am

Who the [expletive deleted] posts undecipherable "scientific" articles on MySpace?

/and why?

163 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:24:22am

re: #159 galloping granny

Now that you've found it, perhaps you should burn it. Or turn it into confetti.

The pic was online.

Actually, I've kept some of the pictures, esp. of the wedding day. Kind of an alternate memento mori, reminder of my own fallibility.

164 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:25:53am

re: #157 BlueCanuck

Your pics are wonderful.

165 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:26:09am

re: #163 victor_yugo

Heh, all I have to do is watch Shrek. :)

/ex looked like princess Fiona in ogre form.

166 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:26:32am

re: #164 galloping granny

Thank you.

167 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:27:53am

re: #161 galloping granny

ask the fred meyer or whatever store clerk when they get the shipment in. Here it is Sunday 7am for all the stores and you can get whatever Wii thing you want.

168 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:28:55am

re: #162 Killian Bundy

Who the [expletive deleted] posts undecipherable "scientific" articles on MySpace?

/and why?

it is the preeminent scientific journal, DUH

169 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:30:06am

re: #162 Killian Bundy

Who the [expletive deleted] posts undecipherable "scientific" articles on MySpace?

/and why?

Who the heck is ingiskhan dinging you down for such a statement?

As a card carrying member of the REAL scientific community I can assure you that those who hide behind undecipherable scientific articles are most of the time full of hogwash. It's kind of a "look at me, see how brilliant I am" thing and a "you're not good enough to join my exclusive club" thing. Sheer BS.

Now, who the heck over 20 bothers to have a MySpace page?

170 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:31:57am

re: #167 spidly

ask the fred meyer or whatever store clerk when they get the shipment in. Here it is Sunday 7am for all the stores and you can get whatever Wii thing you want.

We don't have anything like that in a hundred miles or so, any direction. For that reason, we belong to Amazon Prime. I shop from my keyboard and it arrives in a day or two on the UPS truck.

Besides, I already have the Wii and the WiiFit.

171 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:32:18am

re: #162 Killian Bundy

gotta get in touch with the quantum fluctuation, dude

172 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:32:23am

I had to take Valium last night for a medical procedure (MRI) and woke up (or came to really) with a massive hangover....I'm such a lightweight after 22 years clean and sober.....slogged around all day....and now I'm wide awake, no chance of going to sleep soon.........maybe go on line and I'll look for pictures of my ex wives.........

173 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:32:52am

re: #162 Killian Bundy

Who the [expletive deleted] posts undecipherable "scientific" articles on MySpace?

/and why?

It proves that anyone can find a soapbox on the interweb.....

174 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:33:31am

re: #172 IslandLibertarian

I had to take Valium last night for a medical procedure (MRI) and woke up (or came to really) with a massive hangover....I'm such a lightweight after 22 years clean and sober.....slogged around all day....and now I'm wide awake, no chance of going to sleep soon.........maybe go on line and I'll look for pictures of my ex wives.........

I hear all the exes live in Teas. Start there.

175 BignJames  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:33:45am

re: #162 Killian Bundy

Who the [expletive deleted] posts undecipherable "scientific" articles on MySpace?

/and why?


Mmmm....ignorant teenage adulation?

176 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:34:18am

re: #156 littleoldlady

Thanks, but a guy like me can't live on fruitcup alone. (;

177 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:34:20am

Wow, 1,311 comments and counting.

178 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:34:45am

re: #174 coquimbojoe

got en ex GF in Houston..........does she count?

179 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:34:55am

re: #172 IslandLibertarian

IslandLibertarian! :-)

PLURAL?!

/how do you folks afford it?

180 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:35:07am

re: #175 BignJames

Mmmm....ignorant teenage adulation?

Please don't put down people who take the time to embed P Diddy videos into their personal page for your entertainment.

181 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:35:18am

re: #178 IslandLibertarian

got en ex GF in Houston..........does she count?

Only to 28.

If she takes off her clothes.

182 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:35:29am

Randi Rhodes accuses Palin of teenage molestation

Man, just when you thought the left couldn't get any more bat-shit insane. I swear, if McCain wins a landslide, I fear for these people's sanity. They're stuck in a terrible negative feedback loop right now, the only logical ending is suicide.

183 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:35:31am

re: #178 IslandLibertarian

got en ex GF in Houston..........does she count?

Absitively, posilutely.

184 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:36:11am

re: #182 EIDE_Interface

Randi Rhodes accuses Palin of teenage molestation

Man, just when you thought the left couldn't get any more bat-shit insane. I swear, if McCain wins a landslide, I fear for these people's sanity. They're stuck in a terrible negative feedback loop right now, the only logical ending is suicide.

Did she say this from her prone position in the gutter?

185 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:36:21am

re: #179 littleoldlady

yes plural.........I thought "Third time's a charm" but it was "Three strikes, yer out!"

186 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:37:19am

re: #185 IslandLibertarian

yes plural.........I thought "Third time's a charm" but it was "Three strikes, yer out!"

I see you're no stranger to pain.


/learned my lesson after my divorce. ;)

187 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:38:09am

re: #185 IslandLibertarian

yes plural.........I thought "Third time's a charm" but it was "Three strikes, yer out!"

My father has found out that its really 'the fourth time's a charm'....

188 BignJames  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:38:23am

re: #180 coquimbojoe

P who? what?

189 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:38:48am

re: #184 coquimbojoe

Did she say this from her prone position in the gutter?

Randi is always in danger of falling face down in the gutter. A dry-drunk she is.

190 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:38:51am

re: #181 victor_yugo

Only to 28.

If she takes off her clothes.

OK, I need an explanation here, really.

191 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:39:05am

re: #170 galloping granny

We don't have anything like that in a hundred miles or so, any direction. For that reason, we belong to Amazon Prime. I shop from my keyboard and it arrives in a day or two on the UPS truck.

Besides, I already have the Wii and the WiiFit.

they screw you online. prices are much higher. I don't get this whole marketing ploy but I guess it maximizes profits somehow.

1st underwear 2nd........ 3rd profits

My wifes birthday and our anniversary are a week apart - she got the Wii console, Wii sports, Wii fit, guitar queero, dance dance, mariocart, and because I saw some kids playing along with The Yeah Yeah Yeah's right after I listened to them on my iPod, she got Rockband

Rockband has a great playlist

192 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:39:53am

re: #173 coquimbojoe

It proves that anyone can find a soapbox on the interweb.....

where'd you get "interweb" we make fun of my mom because she calls it that

193 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:39:56am

re: #188 BignJames

P who? what?

Puff Daddy. Sean Combs. Hubris McIdioticpants. If you really don't know, you are better off than those of who do

194 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:40:14am

re: #192 spidly

where'd you get "interweb" we make fun of my mom because she calls it that

Simpsons maybe?

195 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:41:11am

re: #190 IslandLibertarian

OK, I need an explanation here, really.

10 fingers
10 toes
2 eyes
2 ears
1 nose
1 mouth
and 2... um.......

196 BignJames  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:41:44am

re: #193 coquimbojoe

Puff Daddy. Sean Combs. Hubris McIdioticpants. If you really don't know, you are better off than those of who do


Sean St.Jean....that guy?

197 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:43:37am

re: #195 victor_yugo

10 fingers
10 toes
2 eyes
2 ears
1 nose
1 mouth
and 2... um.......

Ankles?
Elbow?
Lymphnodes?

Don't leave us hanging.

/And with that, good night fine people. If anyone would like to read my treatise on quantum sentence diagramming, is on my Myspace page. Enjoy!

198 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:44:09am

re: #182 EIDE_Interface

Randi Rhodes accuses Palin of teenage molestation

Man, just when you thought the left couldn't get any more bat-shit insane. I swear, if McCain wins a landslide, I fear for these people's sanity. They're stuck in a terrible negative feedback loop right now, the only logical ending is suicide.

They all want to be (an) heroes of the revolution.

/link includes NSFW language, but it's all mainly for interweb-hormonal-male kicks...

199 coquimbojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:44:25am

re: #196 BignJames

Sean St.Jean....that guy?

No, lucky person. Bother your pretty head no further. Ignorance, in this case, is bliss.

200 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:44:30am

re: #191 spidly

they screw you online. prices are much higher. I don't get this whole marketing ploy but I guess it maximizes profits somehow.

1st underwear 2nd........ 3rd profits

My wifes birthday and our anniversary are a week apart - she got the Wii console, Wii sports, Wii fit, guitar queero, dance dance, mariocart, and because I saw some kids playing along with The Yeah Yeah Yeah's right after I listened to them on my iPod, she got Rockband

Rockband has a great playlist

I do not know what the girls paid for the Wii (it was a gift to old granny) but I am quite sure that if they could have bought it cheaper elsewhere, they would have done so. They are MY children after all and every one of them can squeeze a nickel till it bleeds. I know for a fact that I paid $89 for WiiFit - a price that nobody anywhere has even met, to say nothing of beaten. And by the time I add the cost of a half-tank of gas to drive anywhere (not to mention the time, road food, and having to wait until I can make time to go on an all-day jaunt), an extra buck or two is often worth it to me.

201 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:45:39am

high holidays are upon us. just in case you have not been deluged with requests for charitable donations, think about ZAKA.

202 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:47:09am

re: #198 laZardo

They all want to be (an) heroes of the revolution.

/link includes NSFW language, but it's all mainly for interweb-hormonal-male kicks...

A lot of talk on Hot Air that Randi is projecting with all of her incessant talk about perversions, and child molestation. I mean she does go on and on about it every single show. I wonder what skeletons Randi is hiding?

203 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:47:41am
204 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:47:49am

re: #198 laZardo

They all want to be (an) heroes of the revolution.

/link includes NSFW language, but it's all mainly for interweb-hormonal-male kicks...

Alcohol is one of the very few substances that crosses the blood-brain barrier. Brain cells do not regenerate. Randy Randi has turned her brain to mush.

205 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:48:07am

re: #202 EIDE_Interface

Probably just wanting a share of the ratings pie that comes from trashing Palin...

206 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:49:16am

re: #202 EIDE_Interface

A lot of talk on Hot Air that Randi is projecting with all of her incessant talk about perversions, and child molestation. I mean she does go on and on about it every single show. I wonder what skeletons Randi is hiding?

I can see that easily.

207 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:49:24am

re: #195 victor_yugo

10 fingers
10 toes
2 eyes
2 ears
1 nose
1 mouth
and 2... um.......

Here's a couple with numbered parts..............
I like to paint by numbers.

208 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:49:38am

re: #200 galloping granny

I paid 69 at the store, cheapest I found online was 110 when I got it. I had a coworker get his wife to buy it at the Fred Meyer she works at and I gave him a bottle of single Malt so I came out almost even. it was a rush though

209 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:52:52am

re: #206 galloping granny

I can see that easily.

BTW, during the whole Mark Foley scandal, she was the first to jump on the 'all Republicans are child molestors" meme.

210 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:54:37am

re: #208 spidly

I paid 69 at the store, cheapest I found online was 110 when I got it. I had a coworker get his wife to buy it at the Fred Meyer she works at and I gave him a bottle of single Malt so I came out almost even. it was a rush though

I thought to register the Wii when I got it - and give them my real email. So, the day they announced WiiFit everyone on the list got a special offer email. We sometimes get pretty snowed in during the winter and I thought it would be a smart way for the kiddo to get PE in besides DDR, so I had it ordered in under 15 minutes. One of the best things I've spent money on in some while - even old Granny has fun doing the Hula. Makes for quite a party conversation piece too.

211 SouthAmericanWay  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:55:39am

A Concerned Democrat for McCain asks:

Can I see Obama's Bar application(s)?
'cause I think he may have lied about experimenting with drugs (as later revealed in his autobiography).

212 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:56:31am

re: #210 galloping granny

I thought to register the Wii when I got it - and give them my real email. So, the day they announced WiiFit everyone on the list got a special offer email. We sometimes get pretty snowed in during the winter and I thought it would be a smart way for the kiddo to get PE in besides DDR, so I had it ordered in under 15 minutes. One of the best things I've spent money on in some while - even old Granny has fun doing the Hula. Makes for quite a party conversation piece too.

i own tight rope. wife injured herself on hula

213 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:56:46am

re: #191 spidly

The Wii is said to have been sold out in stores since it was launched. Looks like they're still willing to charge a premium...

214 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:56:57am

re: #209 EIDE_Interface

BTW, during the whole Mark Foley scandal, she was the first to jump on the 'all Republicans are child molestors" meme.

She is so much trash. I'm surprised that anyone will still pay her, much less give her airtime.

215 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:57:52am

re: #210 galloping granny

there's a ski game out that uses the balance pad
30USD

216 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:59:16am

re: #213 laZardo

The Wii is said to have been sold out in stores since it was launched. Looks like they're still willing to charge a premium...

I was working 7 days a week and couldn't get to the store early enough so it took me just about 2 months of visits to finally get it

217 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 2:59:38am

re: #213 laZardo

The Wii is said to have been sold out in stores since it was launched. Looks like they're still willing to charge a premium...

Mostly. My SIL's dad stood in line overnight to get him one for Christmas. BJ's - something like Sam's Club - usually has a couple in stock and I've seen them most trips I make to WalMart. I did hear that Nintendo was upping production. WiiFit is really hard to come by though. It sold out on Amazon as a pre-order and I've never seen it there since except through 3rd party sellers.

218 yochanan  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:01:14am

re: #32 Colonel Panik

And yea, it shall be that in the 8th Month of the Year of '08...that out of the frozen wastes of the North shall come a mighty Amazon Hockeymom warrior on Mooseback, wielding an M4 carbine, and striking terror into the hearts of the Moonbats.

The Obamaclypse and the Revelation of St. John the PORCINEAviator


fixed that for you.

219 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:01:15am

re: #215 spidly

there's a ski game out that uses the balance pad
30USD

There is a ski game out that comes with WiiFit. There are 40 or 50 games all told. Even a jogging course.

220 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:02:01am

re: #207 IslandLibertarian

And the video. (NSFW!)

221 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:02:10am

re: #216 spidly

Patience, clearly, is a virtue. (:

222 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:03:12am

Is this where all the American insomniac lizards hang out? I woke up before 4:30 and I simply cannot get back to sleep.

223 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:04:18am

re: #222 vxbush

Yep, welcome to the late night/early morning drinking thread.


/for some of us it's just coffee.

224 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:04:42am

re: #219 galloping granny

there's a separate ski game out there. I was going to get it but it was gone when I went back. it is not part of the fit package just all skiing

225 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:05:39am

re: #223 BlueCanuck

Yep, welcome to the late night/early morning drinking thread.


/for some of us it's just coffee.

usually, but I am having the bi-yearly beerfest along with those doritos while the wife is gone

226 BignJames  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:06:29am

re: #222 vxbush

Go to the previous thread.....there's a poster there that should put you to sleep.

227 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:06:32am

re: #220 victor_yugo

And the video. (NSFW!)

Ummmm...

To anyone who watched that, and now wants those six minutes of their lives back:

I apologize for posting that.

228 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:06:34am

re: #224 spidly

there's a separate ski game out there. I was going to get it but it was gone when I went back. it is not part of the fit package just all skiing

Sure, and Jillian the trainer from biggest loser has a "game" out too. Not interested in spending money on either of them though. Never have much liked to ski.

229 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:06:55am

Hey, since we're discussing the Wii:

I've been debating about getting it for my disabled son, who has good range of motion with his right arm but absolutely cannot handle pushing A and B buttons and direction arrows on a regular game system. I haven't had much time to research the Wii with all the surgeries in the house, so how does the game controller work? I know there's a motion sensor in it that notes position and such.

230 scottishbuzzsaw  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:06:55am

re: #222 vxbush

Is this where all the American insomniac lizards hang out? I woke up before 4:30 and I simply cannot get back to sleep.


Been up since 4:10...cruel on a Sunday morn', isn't it? Raining cats and dogs, too...more coffee....

231 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:07:01am

little fat tire, little hefe, little newcastle, and a little abby

232 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:08:14am
13) Staring at a Screen Darkly

The advent of the Internet recombines the abolition of space-time barriers to communication with the constant and instant availability of (potentially) practically all textual knowledge, as computer aided design and computer assisted manufacture threaten to leave the proletariat with little beyond bourgeois leisure and a subsistence stipend. The underclass will be known not as the unwashed, but as the unwired. With every computer terminal a samizdat, governments (and religions) will progressively lose their ability to tell the big lies and make them stick (see Zapatista). Guerilla semioticians will increasingly 'poach' the icons and symbols of governmental, religious and corporate institutions and imbue them with different and frequently subversive meanings (The Practice of Everyday Life, Michel de Certeau, 1984). Authority will issue not from age, race, gender or status, but from the internal consistency, logical cogency, linguistic clarity and external coherence of one's positions. Spoken and written language forms will continue vanishing as quickly as endangered species, as informational selection takes its Darwinian toll. The hegemony of employment over location will melt away as more and more jobs can be performed from anywhere with power and a telephone line. Global democracy will supersede multiple national sovereignties as humanity's attachments to borders and boundaries will shrink along with their relevance to the lives of an increasingly individually sovereign citizenry (as Francis Fukuyama foresaw in The End Of History, 1992). The policy debates now occurring within electronic 'town meetings' will be settled by cyber-votes. The Human Genome Project will allow human beings to genetically know themselves (Socrates and Hippocrates would be pleased) and to re-engineer their codes to remove textual errors (inherited defects). If they like the result, genocopies (clones) will be possible, and there is already talk of exploiting the shared binary codes of computer language and the double helix to create DNA computers. The meme will then have traveled full circle, finding its way back to the gene. In the coming millennium, homo sapiens will be both weavers of and woven by, for better or for worse, the informational warp and communicational weft of a co-evolutionary New Web Order.

/gues who posted this on MySpace and forgot to tell Lord Obama?

233 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:08:27am

re: #230 scottishbuzzsaw

Been up since 4:10...cruel on a Sunday morn', isn't it? Raining cats and dogs, too...more coffee....

Amen, sister. Cruel indeed. There's no point in going back to sleep if the alarm is going to go off in 2 hours.

234 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:09:23am

re: #232 Killian Bundy

oh shit, this thread has been infected with the Salamantin virus

235 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:09:32am

re: #222 vxbush

Over here, I'm just whittling away a lazy Sunday afternoon writing up something for design class...

236 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:09:49am

re: #232 Killian Bundy

Gah. Someone who loves the sound of his own typing, methinks. Definitely sounds like a leftist.

237 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:10:43am

re: #220 victor_yugo

(NSFW!)
yeah, the video doesn't do them justice.........we had them at our company Christmas party...........and a good time was had by all!

238 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:11:01am

re: #229 vxbush

Hey, since we're discussing the Wii:

I've been debating about getting it for my disabled son, who has good range of motion with his right arm but absolutely cannot handle pushing A and B buttons and direction arrows on a regular game system. I haven't had much time to research the Wii with all the surgeries in the house, so how does the game controller work? I know there's a motion sensor in it that notes position and such.

There is a bar that sits on top of the TV that senses the motion. Most of the games that I've played with it you move the controller up and down or back and forth, maybe tip it this way or that.

BTW, I have disabilities that sometimes make it hard for me. That is one of the reasons the girls got me the Wii.

239 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:11:25am

re: #236 vxbush

Gah. Someone who loves the sound of his own typing, methinks. Definitely sounds like a leftist.

/thread down

240 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:13:25am

re: #239 Killian Bundy

waste of time, he is

241 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:13:40am

re: #232 Killian Bundy

Wow, that almost sounds like the Sokal affair or SCIgen.

242 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:15:05am

re: #239 Killian Bundy

/thread down

Ah. Oh-kay.

So: we were talking about the Wii, right?

243 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:16:07am
A local teenager told CBS2-TV that he had exchanged a brief text message with the engineer shortly before the crash. The station reported that the teen, Nick Williams, was among a group of kids who befriended the engineer and asked him questions about his work.
Tyrrell said before the report aired that she would find it "unbelievable" that an engineer would be text messaging while operating a train. Using a cell phone on duty is against Metrolink rules, former conductor Garcia said.


25 people killed and 132 wounded.

I see someone text messaging in a car driving stupid-
But text messaging driving a train?

Sheeeesh!

244 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:16:59am

re: #242 vxbush

Ah. Oh-kay.

So: we were talking about the Wii, right?

We were.

245 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:20:23am

re: #242 vxbush

Unfortunately the last console system I owned was the SNES. Tried the N64, X-Box, but didn't like the new games that came out. Tried the Wii at a friends place and loved it.

246 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:22:09am

re: #238 galloping granny

There is a bar that sits on top of the TV that senses the motion. Most of the games that I've played with it you move the controller up and down or back and forth, maybe tip it this way or that.

BTW, I have disabilities that sometimes make it hard for me. That is one of the reasons the girls got me the Wii.

Is there a button on the hand-held device that you have to hold down or push as you move the device around? That level of coordination might be difficult for him, but maybe not if it only requires a thumb to push.

247 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:25:07am

re: #246 vxbush

Is there a button on the hand-held device that you have to hold down or push as you move the device around? That level of coordination might be difficult for him, but maybe not if it only requires a thumb to push.

There are a few buttons - the main one, which is large and requires a thumb only. The next most commonly used is a button on the back that is pulled like a trigger. The rest are fairly small and not used very often - mostly for things like exiting a game back to the main Wii menu. You might have to assist with that.

248 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:28:20am

someone making TV's is going to team up with a gaming console mfg and make a console integral or provide a hollow space and port to plug in a console and own the TV/Gaming market. coax other consoles to adapt to their tv.

249 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:29:13am

re: #232 Killian Bundy

I can curiously shorten all of it to four letters and a semi-colon.

250 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:29:51am

re: #248 spidly

someone making TV's is going to team up with a gaming console mfg and make a console integral or provide a hollow space and port to plug in a console and own the TV/Gaming market. coax other consoles to adapt to their tv.

That isn't going to fly any more than the VCR in TV did.

251 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:30:29am

He wrote an essay to the Language Origins Society and they published it.

/sociology, I'm impress

252 TheMatrix31  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:31:02am

re: #182 EIDE_Interface

Randi Rhodes accuses Palin of teenage molestation

Man, just when you thought the left couldn't get any more bat-shit insane. I swear, if McCain wins a landslide, I fear for these people's sanity. They're stuck in a terrible negative feedback loop right now, the only logical ending is suicide.

She's just jealous that teenage boys wouldn't mind having sex with Palin.

253 yochanan  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:33:41am

come the even of nov. 5th the obamatons will be crying in the Chardonnay and stinky cheese.

254 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:33:59am

re: #251 Killian Bundy

He wrote an essay to the Language Origins Society and they published it.

/sociology, I'm impress

When he gets one published in one of the American Chemical Society journals let me know.

255 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:37:31am

re: #254 galloping granny

When he gets one published in one of the American Chemical Society journals let me know.

Heh. Or one of the prestigious math journals, or Physics Letters, or....

Yeah. You got it, granny.

256 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:40:11am

re: #255 vxbush

Heh. Or one of the prestigious math journals, or Physics Letters, or....

Yeah. You got it, granny.

There is nothing more pretentious that somebody who knows so little about his discipline that he has to hide behind lofty rhetoric. Except someone who pretends to be a Professor of Constitutional Law when in fact he is and always has been a mere part-time lecturer.

257 bp sf  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:40:54am

Good Morning.

New York Daily News sucks too:

Test your Palin-tology

Do you know Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin better than she knows the Bush Doctrine? Check out our quiz and find out.


I'd rather not.

258 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:41:54am

re: #254 galloping granny

When he gets one published in one of the American Chemical Society journals let me know.

Well, he's an expert on pretty much everyting posted on MySpace.

/it's the Wild Wild West

259 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:42:45am

re: #255 vxbush

Heh. Or one of the prestigious math journals, or Physics Letters, or....

Yeah. You got it, granny.

he might be able to get in Lancet if he make far left claims about smoking or Iraq

260 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:44:00am

re: #256 galloping granny

There is nothing more pretentious that somebody who knows so little about his discipline that he has to hide behind lofty rhetoric. Except someone who pretends to be a Professor of Constitutional Law when in fact he is and always has been a mere part-time lecturer.

I have a good friend who is a liberal (little l, not big l), not a leftist, but can at times have a visceral hatred for Republicans. I asked her once, as she has several degrees in English, why it is that writers write such obscure crap. Her answer made more sense than most I've seen: They're just writing to impress each other. No one else cares, and no one else even pretends it's understandable.

261 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:45:21am

re: #259 spidly

he might be able to get in Lancet if he make far left claims about smoking or Iraq

Yes, isn't it sad? Lancet has fallen far, but then in regards to their "600,000 Iraqis dead" article, that's what you get for using very shady techniques. You think they would have had someone do a better job of reviewing that article.

262 spidly  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 3:47:56am

re: #261 vxbush

Yes, isn't it sad? Lancet has fallen far, but then in regards to their "600,000 Iraqis dead" article, that's what you get for using very shady techniques. You think they would have had someone do a better job of reviewing that article.

like the newspapers, that's what happens when you have a bunch of people who just run with it if it is what they want to hear

263 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:04:10am

Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill

/it's a simple yet complicated world

264 Tamron  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:04:39am

DID YOU KNOW ABOUT OBAMA'S FUTURE WAR PLANS FOR THE USA?

Obama is toying with national military mobilization (the draft):


NATIONAL SERVICE FORUM AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY

11 Sept 2008

"...Obama holds out the prospect that, at least initially, his demand for wider participation in military service would consist of encouraging more enlistments in the volunteer army. When that failed, as it undoubtedly would, to produce sufficient cannon fodder for the next round of imperialist wars, the logical next step would be reactivation of the Selective Service System, which still exists, albeit in mothballed form..."

Obama would thus create a generation of draft-dodgers, and then toss them under the bus.

LOL! Then Canada closes their border, creating a reverse-migration across the Mexican border.... "Press 2 for English, you chickenshit Gringo. Here are some toilets for you to clean, as soon as you finish mowing my lawn."

Just where is this going?
.

265 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:06:51am

re: #264 Tamron

I thought we discussed this pretty thoroughly the night of the Columbia forum. Look for that post from Charles, and read through it. Obama got pretty weird, as he was suggesting volunteerism in every aberrant form: veteran's groups, college groups, retired groups, and more and more, all to be paid from the government. Weirod.

266 Tamron  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:08:18am

Ooops. I missed that forum entirely. Thanks!

267 akak  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:13:44am

re: #264 Tamron

DID YOU KNOW ABOUT OBAMA'S FUTURE WAR PLANS FOR THE USA?

Obama is toying with national military mobilization (the draft):

Obama would thus create a generation of draft-dodgers, and then toss them under the bus.

LOL! Then Canada closes their border, creating a reverse-migration across the Mexican border.... "Press 2 for English, you chickenshit Gringo. Here are some toilets for you to clean, as soon as you finish mowing my lawn."

Just where is this going?
.


except it would be Peace corp tripe options

268 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:17:20am

Is it me, or does it seem like Obama and Biden are spending an inordinate amount of time in New Hampshire? Particularly since they are drawing pretty small crowds - Biden got only 800 the other day.

269 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:19:10am
270 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:19:29am

re: #262 spidly

Incoming.

/maybe

271 Salamantis  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:22:12am

re: #241 victor_yugo

Wow, that almost sounds like the Sokal affair or SCIgen.

I find this to be exceedingly funny, since I used the Sokal Affair as an answer when spidly tried to pull some Thomas Kuhn postmodern crapola on another thread a while back.

272 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:22:45am

re: #269 Wyatt Earp

My (hopefully funny) take on political smears.

If I may make a suggestion, gray type on a cream background is a bit difficult for older eyes to see. Other combos to avoid when you want folks to read something - anything on black or blue.

273 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:26:48am

re: #271 Salamantis

I find this to be exceedingly funny

/who doesn't?

274 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:27:06am

re: #40 spidly

How right you are! The High Holidays are almost upon us, indeed.

Hoping the you and all the other Jewish Lizards will be inscribed in the Book of Life for a New Year of Happiness, Health and Prosperity.

275 Geepers  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:29:12am

galloping granny (#219),

There is a ski game out that comes with WiiFit. There are 40 or 50 games all told. Even a jogging course.

Someone will no doubt come up with a laundry "game", a cleaning the kitchen "game" and a going to the bathroom "game" and then our lives will be complete.

276 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:40:35am
277 Bubblehead II  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:47:22am

Good morning from Vicksburg, Ms. 14 day till I am back where I belong.

Well I don't know if it's racist or not as that is a term that gets thrown around pretty casually now a day when it come to the O, but it is funny.

Obama Waffles

278 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:48:07am

Good morning, Lizards

Lizard Prayer List 9/14/08
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope

Seeking Updates*PLEASE check carefully--I'm so afraid I forgot to save the last update.
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.


Thanksgivings

Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke, practically fully recovered
Loppyd: future plans

Health issues:
Pingjockey: friend Bob with a carcinoma, recovering from surgery
LeePro: major oral surgery in July
A Lizard who underwent surgery Monday, 8/17/08
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), which is caused by something else, in most cases rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: recovering from oral surgery, cancer; mom Type II diabetes
Dolphin: friend Stan, open heart surgery
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Vxbush: being tested for wheat allergy
MigueldowninMexico: recovering from stroke
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
loppyd: step-father undergoing treatment for colon cancer
Macker: health issues and treatment
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
LanceKates: dad’s continued recovery from surgery
Tarkus289: father is in hospital; may have pneumonia after two strokes and stage 7 Alzheimer'
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain; facing another surgery
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
BenZacharia: wifffeee’s recovery from surgery
USMC1968: cancer

Family, friend, and life situations:

x-wing: various
vxhush: husband’s rotator cuff surgery & managing everything on her own during recovery
HoosierHoops: 3/5th Marines deploying to Afghanistan in January (son Jordan is a platoon leader)
Mars Needs Neocons: job
Jcm: best result for new foster daughter
Pvt Bin Jammin: best friend’s passing
Josephine: painful loss
Vxbush: daughter traveling overseas
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Sarah: and her husband in the process of moving to Arizona for husband’s schooling
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
wolfie: nephew (USAR) who is being sent into the thick of things in Iraq.
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Maximus: son reports for active duty in August.
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: EH/kids; losing cousin and aunt within 4 months
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
DorianGrey: much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general

Community issues:
Those dealing with the Hurricane Ike
Georgia/Ossetia
Gilad Schalit, for his release.
The contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

279 akak  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:48:17am
UNIFIL soldier trades her blue beret for headscarf during Ramadan

/might as well cover the eyes the way they do their tasks

280 Bubblehead II  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:49:28am

Morning goddess.

281 mac6443  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:51:04am

How would the dude know the darkness was bottomless?
He never let go of the lip he held so dearly and tightly to, that
he would never know.

Reminds me of: Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

282 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:52:18am

re: #268 galloping granny

Is it me, or does it seem like Obama and Biden are spending an inordinate amount of time in New Hampshire? Particularly since they are drawing pretty small crowds - Biden got only 800 the other day.

But Obama got 8,000 yesterday. It's a swing state. Both campaigns will spend as much time there as they can.

283 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:56:59am

re: #96 spidly


“Their secrecy is off the charts,” Mr. Steiner said.

This stupid crap again - THE MOST SECRETIVE ADMIN IN 100,000 YEARS!

I think that just means they're pissed that all the lawyers they sent to Alaska couldn't really find anything...

"They've got to be hiding something!"

Good morning, LGF!

284 Bubblehead II  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:57:09am

McCartney warned against Israel show

Did I miss the memo or do we now have a new term for suicide bombers?

We have what we call 'sacrifice' operatives who will not stand by while he joins in a celebration of their oppression.

scare quotes from the article.

285 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 4:57:49am

Walk Away

/they love the LGF prayer list, contrarian wise

286 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:01:12am

re: #282 JustMyView

But Obama got 8,000 yesterday. It's a swing state. Both campaigns will spend as much time there as they can.

Alas, JUSTMYVIEW, a New Hampshire Democrat endorses John McCain.

PUMA at work - DEAL WITH IT!

287 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:04:03am

re: #278 goddessoftheclassroom

Great effort.

/many incorrect calls for prayer, I don't know, does that still work?

288 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:04:44am

re: #286 Intrepid

Alas, JUSTMYVIEW, a New Hampshire Democrat endorses John McCain.

PUMA at work - DEAL WITH IT!

That's one, but he'll need more.

289 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:05:40am

re: #288 JustMyView

That's one, but he'll need more.

Oh, he'll get more - the trend is going his way.

290 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:05:41am

re: #240 spidly

waste of time, he is

Hey, ding me too!

291 Right Brain  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:05:50am

I thought to write a note about the sad death of David Foster Wallace, generally considered the best living novelist, by his own hand yesterday.

He is important because he broke with the extreme Left, among which he lived, to write an essay about John McCain entitled in his usual humorous style:

"McCain's Promise: Aboard the Straight Talk Express with John McCain and a Whole Bunch of Actual Reporters, Thinking About Hope"

He wrote this essay in 2000 and then reworked it for the current campaign; he was obviously a supporter of McCain and acknowledged his magnetism despite the spin staff that surrounded him.

We don't know yet why he killed himself, but his was a unique voice that stood out against the detached irony with which the rest of his generation passes through the world.

The front page obit in today's NY Times acknowledges his influence but not his most famous essay, of course.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

292 Geepers  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:06:49am

Trends:

Minnesota Leaning Obama »»» Toss Up McCain +2.4
Indiana Toss Up »»» Leaning McCain McCain +2.4
Florida Toss Up »»» Leaning McCain McCain +2.5
North Carolina Leaning McCain »»» Solid McCain McCain +2.5
Georgia Leaning McCain »»» Solid McCain McCain +2.5

Every change in status is in McCain's favor.

293 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:07:26am

re: #289 Intrepid

Oh, he'll get more - the trend is going his way.

Speaking of, it's already moving McCain's way.

RCP EC Map - Current

294 nonic  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:08:33am

Good morning, people.

No, I don't have a link for this handy, but as I recall it was Thomas Jefferson's idea that ORDINARY CITIZENS should run the country, in turns. He was a "farmer." Washington was a "farmer." Adams was a lawyer. And so forth. The Founding Fathers were all ordinary men who had REAL lives and rose to the occasion to fight for independence and govern a new country.

THAT, in my opinion, is one of the chief appeals of Sarah Palin. THAT, I believe, is the main "lure" of her "narrative." That she was a mother first, and for the sake of her kids got involved in the PTA, then the city council, etc., etc. And the rest is, as they say, history. :-)

McCain was a navy career man, right? Reagan was an actor.

And WHAT, pray tell, was Obama? (Rhetorical question.)

295 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:08:48am

re: #288 JustMyView

That's one, but he'll need more.

Bradley effect

/unfortunate, but snatch that

296 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:09:03am

Goddess, doll: An update from my end.

Still waiting to hear on the wheat allergy thing. Had two stomach polyps removed, four biopsies taken. Results next week.

Hubby got through surgery swimmingly. Doctor didn't have to do much, and he's recovering nicely. Hoping we can stop the additional (paid) help from coming out to help with son and get back to our "regular" life.

Good to see an updated list! Thanks so much for all you do!

297 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:09:36am

re: #287 Killian Bundy

Great effort.

/many incorrect calls for prayer, I don't know, does that still work?

Do you mean there are many requests that are out-of-date? Please tell me what they are, and I'll correct them. I rely on updates.

298 Billy Hank  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:10:19am

Stranger yet. As The One strives to become the 44th president, something started tickling in the back of my mind. I finally remembered. Mark Twain's last story, published posthumously, was "The Mysterious Stranger." [Link: www.shsu.edu...]

It is 1590 in Austria when The Mysterious Stranger comes to village. He promises all sorts of wonders and people believe him. As the story develops, The Mysterious Stranger turns out to be Old Scratch himself, the Devil, Satan, if you will. The name Twain gives him is 44.

Now, I personally put little stock in the notion that a butterfly's wing beat in Beijing can cause a hurricane in the Gulf. Still, did a dying Twain see far enough down the tendrils of time to forecast the arrival of Obama as the potential 44th president? Or is this just a correlation without causation. Ah, the curse of being an English major.

299 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:12:23am

re: #296 vxbush

Goddess, doll: An update from my end.

Still waiting to hear on the wheat allergy thing. Had two stomach polyps removed, four biopsies taken. Results next week.

Hubby got through surgery swimmingly. Doctor didn't have to do much, and he's recovering nicely. Hoping we can stop the additional (paid) help from coming out to help with son and get back to our "regular" life.

Good to see an updated list! Thanks so much for all you do!

I'm so glad your husband's doing so well! I moved him to Thanksgivings. I hope your tests come back the way you hope they do,

300 Opilio  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:13:33am

On the InTrade futures market, McCain's up over 52, with Obama down to around 46. Just 2 weeks ago, Obama contracts were trading around 60, and McCain's were at 38!

301 akak  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:16:12am

re: #294 nonic

And WHAT, pray tell, was Obama? (Rhetorical question.)

Before or after his trip to Pakistan?

302 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:18:01am

re: #298 Billy Hank

Stranger yet. As The One strives to become the 44th president, something started tickling in the back of my mind. I finally remembered. Mark Twain's last story, published posthumously, was "The Mysterious Stranger." [Link: www.shsu.edu...]

It is 1590 in Austria when The Mysterious Stranger comes to village. He promises all sorts of wonders and people believe him. As the story develops, The Mysterious Stranger turns out to be Old Scratch himself, the Devil, Satan, if you will. The name Twain gives him is 44.

Now, I personally put little stock in the notion that a butterfly's wing beat in Beijing can cause a hurricane in the Gulf. Still, did a dying Twain see far enough down the tendrils of time to forecast the arrival of Obama as the potential 44th president? Or is this just a correlation without causation. Ah, the curse of being an English major.

No, no, no, no! Being an English major is BLESSING! :)

303 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:18:04am

re: #291 Right Brain

re: #294 nonic

Good morning, people.

No, I don't have a link for this handy, but as I recall it was Thomas Jefferson's idea that ORDINARY CITIZENS should run the country, in turns. He was a "farmer." Washington was a "farmer." Adams was a lawyer. And so forth. The Founding Fathers were all ordinary men who had REAL lives and rose to the occasion to fight for independence and govern a new country.

THAT, in my opinion, is one of the chief appeals of Sarah Palin. THAT, I believe, is the main "lure" of her "narrative." That she was a mother first, and for the sake of her kids got involved in the PTA, then the city council, etc., etc. And the rest is, as they say, history. :-)

McCain was a navy career man, right? Reagan was an actor.

And WHAT, pray tell, was Obama? (Rhetorical question.)

Funny you should mention that, because there was once this Obamaton who suggested that inexperience might actually be a good thing for an incoming Commander-in-Chief...

304 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:18:35am

re: #303 laZardo

Hmm. Strike out the #291 reference from that.

/should pay more attention where he leaves those things...

305 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:21:19am

re: #297 goddessoftheclassroom

Do you mean there are many requests that are out-of-date? Please tell me what they are, and I'll correct them. I rely on updates.

Everybody deserves prayer. We've been through this before. I cringe at some of the names you include. They've been nominated by others, but do they want to be included? And it's posted on LGF.

/all I'm saying is get doublechecks on the entries

306 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:21:27am

re: #292 Geepers

Trends:

Minnesota Leaning Obama »»» Toss Up McCain +2.4
Indiana Toss Up »»» Leaning McCain McCain +2.4
Florida Toss Up »»» Leaning McCain McCain +2.5
North Carolina Leaning McCain »»» Solid McCain McCain +2.5
Georgia Leaning McCain »»» Solid McCain McCain +2.5

Every change in status is in McCain's favor.

Right, but this is mostly "firming up" as the election gets closer. The only one that is really a surprise is Minnesota. Obama is still ahead there in the RCP poll average, so it seems odd that they moved the state into the toss-up category.

307 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:22:23am

re: #305 Killian Bundy

Everybody deserves prayer. We've been through this before. I cringe at some of the names you include. They've been nominated by others, but do they want to be included? And it's posted on LGF.

/all I'm saying is get doublechecks on the entries

I have.

308 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:24:31am

re: #306 JustMyView

You keep your delusions, JMV. That will help you as your candidate continues to tank in the polls.

309 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:24:36am

re: #293 Intrepid

Speaking of, it's already moving McCain's way.

RCP EC Map - Current

Are you sure? As I read this graph, the state is leaning more toward Obama. That's what the numerical results at the top of the screen show too, but they are from different polls so are not really a time series.

310 Opilio  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:25:10am

re: #293 Intrepid

Speaking of, it's already moving McCain's way.

RCP EC Map - Current

What's really striking about that map: Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania - all tossups?, Oregon & New Jersey - only leaning Obama? He needs every one of those states to win.

311 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:25:31am

re: #309 JustMyView

Whoops! Hit the key before creating the link to the graph in my previous post.

Are you sure? As I read this graph, the state is leaning more toward Obama. That's what the numerical results at the top of the screen show too, but they are from different polls so are not really a time series.

312 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:25:43am
313 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:27:11am

Oops!

314 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:27:42am

re: #182 EIDE_Interface

Randi Rhodes accuses Palin of teenage molestation

Man, just when you thought the left couldn't get any more bat-shit insane. I swear, if McCain wins a landslide, I fear for these people's sanity. They're stuck in a terrible negative feedback loop right now, the only logical ending is suicide.

That's fine, as long as they don't do it the ROP way.

315 vxbush  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:28:05am

re: #299 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm so glad your husband's doing so well! I moved him to Thanksgivings. I hope your tests come back the way you hope they do,

Absolutely. Many praises for how well he has done.

316 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:29:59am

re: #311 JustMyView

TRENDS! I said trends! Ignore it all you wish, but the TREND IS FOR MCCAIN!

317 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:30:25am

re: #182 EIDE_Interface

Randi Rhodes accuses Palin of teenage molestation

Man, just when you thought the left couldn't get any more bat-shit insane. I swear, if McCain wins a landslide, I fear for these people's sanity. They're stuck in a terrible negative feedback loop right now, the only logical ending is suicide.

And actually, it'd probably be even worse if it's a close election. That would mean that it was stolen!

318 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:30:53am

re: #310 Opilio

What's really striking about that map: Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania - all tossups?, Oregon & New Jersey - only leaning Obama? He needs every one of those states to win.


No, he doesn't need all of them. On this map, all the toss-ups are forced into one side or the other based on current polling. Under those assumptions, he loses Ohio, but still wins the election.

319 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:31:39am

re: #298 Billy Hank

I remember Rush mentioning on Friday that Saul Alinsky, who wrote Rules For Radicals, dedicated the book to Lucifer.

Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgement to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins --or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom --Lucifer

Alinsky, a Chicago community organizer, was a significant influence on Obama.

(Yeah, Alinsky was being postmodern "ironic," but as Baudelaire wrote, "[L]a plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas!")

320 Bubblehead II  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:31:42am

Time to go.

L8R

321 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:32:17am

re: #316 Intrepid

TRENDS! I said trends! Ignore it all you wish, but the TREND IS FOR MCCAIN!

But it's the trend in New Hampshire that I was looking at. There, the trend appears to be in Obama's favor. Of course, in other states, the opposite is true.

322 Opilio  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:32:45am

re: #316 Intrepid

TRENDS! I said trends! Ignore it all you wish, but the TREND IS FOR MCCAIN!

TRENDS? TRENDS? I don't see no stinkin' trends!!! So Obama's dropped 12 points... in 2 weeks... in MINNESOTA...

It's just a flesh wound.

////channeling JMV

323 Opilio  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:33:29am

re: #318 JustMyView

No, he doesn't need all of them. On this map, all the toss-ups are forced into one side or the other based on current polling. Under those assumptions, he loses Ohio, but still wins the election.

You'll note I didn't say he needed OHIO.

324 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:33:30am

re: #316 Intrepid

TRENDS! I said trends! Ignore it all you wish, but the TREND IS FOR MCCAIN!

You don't understand, I think JMV was the one who expected us to be impressed by the "vast crowds" that turned out to see Obama ... in Germany ...

325 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:37:06am

re: #323 Opilio

You'll note I didn't say he needed OHIO.

Right you are. I misread your statement.

326 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:37:18am

Good morning/afternoon/evening/night, Lizrad Nation!
I hope you are all well!

Have there been any more news about Lizards affected by Ike?

327 opnion  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:37:23am

Good Morning all. Just taking a peek to see what your talking a bout.
Saturday Night Live hit some new lows slandering Sarah Palin lsst night.
Nothing about the One.

328 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:39:43am

re: #321 JustMyView

But it's the trend in New Hampshire that I was looking at. There, the trend appears to be in Obama's favor. Of course, in other states, the opposite is true.

/I'm sorry, do you understand the Bradley effect?

329 Opilio  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:39:50am

re: #327 opnion

Good Morning all. Just taking a peek to see what your talking a bout.
Saturday Night Live hit some new lows slandering Sarah Palin lsst night.
Nothing about the One.

Fortunately, SNL has been irrelevant for about 30 years, give or take.

330 nonic  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:41:02am

re: #303 laZardo

Funny you should mention that, because there was once this Obamaton who suggested that inexperience might actually be a good thing for an incoming Commander-in-Chief...

But it's not about experience or inexperience for the job -- nobody has experience being President.

It's about having roots (you should excuse the expression), having a stake in real life, I think what a lot of people see and admire in Palin is that she is a "real person." Not just a parasitic life-long politician.

I was struck by the comment Obama made the other day when he had a private pow-wow with Bill Clinton. Obama was all smiles and said that Clinton "knows something about politics."

Right. Politics. Not principles. Exactly.

331 opnion  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:41:14am

re: #329 Opilio

Fortunately, SNL has been irrelevant for about 30 years, give or take.

332 Opilio  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:41:59am

re: #328 Killian Bundy

/I'm sorry, do you understand the Bradley effect?

I seem to recall the Bradley effect was demonstrated earlier this year in none other than the state of New Hampshire, in the Dem primary.

333 quickjustice  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:42:19am

Page One, N.Y. Times this morning: Palin helped her friends and hurt her foes in Alaska! A Scandal! /sarc

At this rate, Pinch will have his crack N.Y. Times investigative reporters looking at moose entrails for a sign!

334 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:42:32am

re: #324 Tigger2005

You don't understand, I think JMV was the one who expected us to be impressed by the "vast crowds" that turned out to see Obama ... in Germany ...

Meanwhile, tickets for Gov Palin's appearances are selling like hotcakes, causing the event planners to get a bigger venue.

Heh.

335 opnion  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:42:47am

re: #331 opnion

re: #329 Opilio

Fortunately, SNL has been irrelevant for about 30 years, give or take.


That's a fact. They are not funny.The writing is not good & neither is the cast

336 shug  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:43:00am

Maam, would you like a middle seat, window seat, or aisle ?

Yes

337 JSK1121  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:44:23am

The Dude abides.

338 quickjustice  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:44:33am

re: #327 opnion

SNL hit some home runs with their earlier depictions of Obama and Hillary. It's too late in the game for them to score on Palin, however.

339 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:45:20am

Ok, who is "Pinch"?

340 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:45:31am

re: #329 Opilio

Fortunately, SNL has been irrelevant for about 30 years, give or take.

I mean, who were the last "stars" to make it from SNL?

Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, Chris Farley, and David Spade?

341 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:45:32am

re: #303 laZardo

re: #294 nonic

Funny you should mention that, because there was once this Obamaton who suggested that inexperience might actually be a good thing for an incoming Commander-in-Chief...

I definitely don't think the Founding Fathers would have suggested that any Tom Dick or Harry off the street could be President. But I don't think they would have wanted the Presidency to be monopolized by lawyers or career politicians either. Before becoming Mayor of her town, Palin had experience running a business. Then she gained executive experience as a mayor and head of a commission, before becoming a governor. Obama really has no comparable experience.

Sarah is actually more experienced than Harry S Truman (with the exception that Truman commanded men in combat), and it's probable she will have a lot more on-the-job training than Truman did. Roosevelt, a wealthy patrician type, had little respect for the utterly ordinary and middle-class Truman and mostly ignored him.

342 quickjustice  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:47:14am

re: #339 Intrepid

Pinch Sulzberger, who's now operating the N.Y. Times on behalf of the Sulzberger family. "Twit who panders to the N.Y. liberal elite" is a polite way to characterize him.

343 shug  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:47:41am

re: #339 Intrepid

son of a punch

344 JSK1121  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:48:04am

re: #340 Dar ul Harb

I mean, who were the last "stars" to make it from SNL?

Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, Chris Farley, and David Spade?

Don't forget Mike Myers and Phil Hartman. That was truly the last great collection of talent they've had since the original cast. Quite a shame that this cast left over ten years ago.

345 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:48:15am

re: #342 quickjustice

Pinch Sulzberger, who's now operating the N.Y. Times on behalf of the Sulzberger family. "Twit who panders to the N.Y. liberal elite" is a polite way to characterize him.

Ah, gotcha. So he's the one who has turned what was once a decent source of news into a scandal rag?

spit

346 shug  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:48:39am

re: #340 Dar ul Harb

and Will Ferrill

347 quickjustice  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:48:42am

re: #343 shug

Yes, and son of a "witch"! ;-)

348 Billy Hank  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:48:46am

re: #302 goddessoftheclassroom
'Tis both a blessing and a curse. Steeped in the New Criticism, it is hard to come to any expression or event without seeking influences and antecedents. This was compounded by taking Greek Literature in Translation my freshman year. Talk about a heavy reading load. Thereafter, when stuck for a topic, I could always dash off "The Influence of Greek Literature on...". It is like knowing a good bit of the Narrative DNA Genome of Western Civilization.

349 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:49:17am

Good morning all y'all - from a warm (72 degrees, going up to 93 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

350 Intrepid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:49:19am

re: #343 shug

son of a punch

Ba dum pum.

heh

351 quickjustice  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:50:29am

re: #345 Intrepid

He's rapidly steering the family's cash cow into the hamburger machine. Worse, he's an effete vegetarian!

352 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:51:11am

re: #344 JSK1121

Don't forget Mike Myers and Phil Hartman. That was truly the last great collection of talent they've had since the original cast. Quite a shame that this cast left over ten years ago.

Dana Carvey was good. Church Lady!

"Now isn't that special."
"Could it be ... SATAN?"

353 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:51:34am

re: #348 Billy Hank

'Tis both a blessing and a curse. Steeped in the New Criticism, it is hard to come to any expression or event without seeking influences and antecedents. This was compounded by taking Greek Literature in Translation my freshman year. Talk about a heavy reading load. Thereafter, when stuck for a topic, I could always dash off "The Influence of Greek Literature on...". It is like knowing a good bit of the Narrative DNA Genome of Western Civilization.

Wow, I too took Greek Lit! It astounds me that many English teachers are unacquainted with the classics.

Critical theory is just a dinner party game and an excuse for professor to publish repackaged drivel.

354 Billy Hank  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:52:40am

re: #319 Dar ul Harb

Yes. It is Obama's link to Alinksky with his Lucifer dedication that pushed the memory cells into action. What does astonish me is how little we actually know Obama, his past and future plans. What little we do know scares the bejeebers out of me. Nobama44.

355 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:53:03am

re: #349 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a warm (72 degrees, going up to 93 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

Hiya, rw - its still nice and dry here, but the early, lovely sunshine has gone and have hazy grey clouds covering the skies.

How are you doing?

356 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:53:20am

re: #328 Killian Bundy

/I'm sorry, do you understand the Bradley effect?

There is no reason to think that whatever impact the Bradley effect might have has changed over the past few months. That is, people may be overreporting favorable views of Obama, but there is little reason to think they are more likely to do so in September than they were in June. Thus, the Bradley effect doesn't account for the uptick in Obama's poll results in NH.

357 quickjustice  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:53:53am

re: #353 goddessoftheclassroom

Are you kidding? Herman Badillo is battling to reintroduce Shakespeare to public school English classes in NYC!

358 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:55:51am

re: #353 goddessoftheclassroom Hey good morning {goddess}! Hope you're well today! When you get a chance, please check your e-mail!

359 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:57:01am

Why are these hurricanes so anxious to make landfall? If they'd just stay out to sea, they'd remain big & bad ...

360 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:57:15am

re: #357 quickjustice

Are you kidding? Herman Badillo is battling to reintroduce Shakespeare to public school English classes in NYC!

It's heartbreaking that Shakespeare has to be "reintroduced."

When I taught 10th grade, there was a list of novels from which the teacher could choose. One that I refused to teach was The Catcher in the Rye. When my students asked me why I wouldn't assign it when the other English teachers were, I said, "You don't need me to teach it to you. You can understand it on your own. You DO need me to teach The Scarlet Letter."

End of argument.

361 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:57:21am

re: #355 yma o hyd
Hi back at you! I'm doing ok today, thanks! How about yourself - if you get rain do you have any indoor plans (that you can discuss out here, I mean)?!

362 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:57:48am
363 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:59:09am
364 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:59:38am

Hey - has anyone heard from Big Steve? Jorliine reported yesterday that while Jorline saw very little effect from Ike in Corpus Christi, he was worried about Big Steve who is in either Houston or Galveston, sorry I don't remember which.

365 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 5:59:59am

re: #358 realwest

Hey good morning {goddess}! Hope you're well today! When you get a chance, please check your e-mail!

Done! :)

366 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:00:18am

re: #319 Dar ul Harb

I remember Rush mentioning on Friday that Saul Alinsky, who wrote Rules For Radicals, dedicated the book to Lucifer.

Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgement to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins --or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom --Lucifer

Alinsky, a Chicago community organizer, was a significant influence on Obama.

(Yeah, Alinsky was being postmodern "ironic," but as Baudelaire wrote, "[L]a plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas!")

How's that working out for you, Satan?

367 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:01:17am

re: #344 JSK1121

Don't forget Mike Myers and Phil Hartman. That was truly the last great collection of talent they've had since the original cast. Quite a shame that this cast left over ten years ago.

Hartman and Myers were from a slightly earlier SNL era, per Wikipedia. I wouldn't really mention them in the same class as the others.

Phil Hartman, from 1986
Mike Myers, from 1989
Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, Chris Farley, David Spade all from 1990 (Sandler as writer initially)

SNL needs to hire more Canadians, obviously. ;)

368 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:01:48am
369 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:02:10am

re: #361 realwest

Hi back at you! I'm doing ok today, thanks! How about yourself - if you get rain do you have any indoor plans (that you can discuss out here, I mean)?!

Indoor plans - ah ... generally involve books, perusing the papers (done that already) and feeding my LGF addiction :-)

Oh - and Miss Dog likes attention coming her way, like cuddles, little games involving bouncy round objects, and her food bowl ...

All very innocent!

370 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:02:31am

re: #349 realwest

I got yer e-mail. Hopefully if/when Obama loses, I can watch the mob implode upon themselves from my secret Zionist 12th-story viewing box. (:

371 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:03:47am

re: #368 taxfreekiller
Good morning TFK! Thanks for that info - how are you doing this morning?

372 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:04:20am

re: #362 buzzsawmonkey

That can only improve the level of street discourse in New York; "Avaunt, thou dastardly mo' fo'!"

"Alas, poor Big Pussy. I knew him, Tony."
/wait, that's Jersey

373 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:04:25am

re: #272 galloping granny

If I may make a suggestion, gray type on a cream background is a bit difficult for older eyes to see. Other combos to avoid when you want folks to read something - anything on black or blue.

My apologies, ma'am.

374 Billy Hank  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:04:38am

re: #353 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm not an English teacher, although I could probably play one on TV. I started out as a poet, but found the pay too poor. I didn't have the patience to become a professor. The Unified Field Theory of the MLA, the search for the Eighth Type of Ambiguity held little fascination for me. Standing up and talking about poetry and drama would be fun but the Administrivia would be wearing.

375 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:04:55am

re: #369 yma o hyd
"All very innocent!"
Ah, I'm sorry to hear that for you! LOL!

376 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:04:55am
377 Neo_  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:06:19am
"We’re going to have a bold energy plan that says that we are going to reduce our dependence on foreign oil by 20 or 30 percent over the course of a decade or two. We are going to ask all citizens to participate in that process, not just government, but each and every one of us are going to have — are going to make commitments in terms of increasing fuel efficiency in our cars and homes, and the government is going to be in partnership with citizens to make that happen.." -- Obama at Columbia

Interesting that virtually nobody seemed to notice this metric. It's even more detailed than the Obama web site.

With all the ads from people telling us ... energy independent in 10 years, and the U.S. 70% dependent on foreign oil .. it will be at least 3 or 4 decades to be independent.

With cries for "energy independence" dating back to before Carter, somehow Obama's plan doesn't seem very bold and it certainly isn't independence any time soon. It may slow the bleeding, but it really underscores the necessity of opting for all energy sources.

378 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:07:11am

re: #370 laZardo
Good afternoon laZardo! Hopefully - and God forbid - if Obama wins, you can watch from the same place!
Some bad craziness already over this election. I honestly don't recall a time in my life when the level of discourse about politics has reached such a low level of civility.

379 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:08:05am

re: #378 realwest

Good afternoon laZardo! Hopefully - and God forbid - if Obama wins, you can watch from the same place!
Some bad craziness already over this election. I honestly don't recall a time in my life when the level of discourse about politics has reached such a low level of civility.


And Obama claimed he wouldn't pursue a negative campaign, but is crucifying McCain for doing so. Oh, the horror!

380 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:08:19am
381 JSK1121  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:08:46am

re: #367 Dar ul Harb

Hartman and Myers were from a slightly earlier SNL era, per Wikipedia. I wouldn't really mention them in the same class as the others.

Phil Hartman, from 1986
Mike Myers, from 1989
Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, Chris Farley, David Spade all from 1990 (Sandler as writer initially)

SNL needs to hire more Canadians, obviously. ;)

Wikipedia also claims that Kim Jong Il shoots 3-4 holes in one per round of golf. Pre-stroke, of course.

382 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:09:01am

re: #375 realwest

G'morning, Real. Had your waffles yet? ;o)

383 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:09:01am

re: #376 taxfreekiller

tfk's Acorn spy in New Mexico says they are getting real unsure of what to do, one leader says, it looks like we have a problem, if we twik it to much they will see it,,,,,

nice

Do tell!

384 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:11:04am

re: #378 realwest

Hopefully it'll feed into the "youth voters'" vicious cycle of cynicism (and I thought mine was bad...) and this year Obama could get Barred instead of Nadered.

385 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:11:21am

re: #377 Neo_
Well keep in mind that Obama still hasn't even mentioned nuclear power in any of his "energy independence" speeches and yet that is probably the single biggest and fastest way for the US to seriously move to energy independence. Course, we know he hasn't mentioned it because the "activist" arm of the Democratic Left Party can't abide the thought of nuclear power, even though the country most of them admire the most (France) gets over 70% of it's electricity from nuclear power.

386 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:11:32am

re: #374 Billy Hank

I'm not an English teacher, although I could probably play one on TV. I started out as a poet, but found the pay too poor. I didn't have the patience to become a professor. The Unified Field Theory of the MLA, the search for the Eighth Type of Ambiguity held little fascination for me. Standing up and talking about poetry and drama would be fun but the Administrivia would be wearing.

I'm a public school junior high English teacher, and I LOVE it. I almost finished my Ph.D., but life became too complicated to write the dissertation, and I'm okay with that.

The paperwork side of my job is indeed tedious, but the benefits are worth it to me. Each of us has his or her own calling.

387 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:12:38am

re: #379 Wyatt Earp

That's why all the bodies are under the bus? Cuz he's runnin' in 'clear' air?

Right.

388 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:13:10am

So last night I'm sitting in a church yard eating my onion rings and a guy walks up to me and says: "Do you want to buy my shoes"? "Size 10"?

What do you do?

389 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:13:23am

re: #346 shug

and Will Ferrell

O.K., he's really the most recent SNL "star" performer. I haven't seen enough of his stuff to comment, except for maybe the "More Cowbell" skit, and his portrayal of W. in late 2000 (before the election) imagining the Bush presidency as an out-of-control disaster, and a Gore presidency putting everyone to sleep.

390 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:13:58am

re: #387 Cap'n DOC

That's why all the bodies are under the bus? Cuz he's runnin' in 'clear' air?

Right.

Clear air, but a bloody undercarriage. Heh. Friggin' hypocrite.

I still worry that he may win this thing, though. Hope I'm wrong.

391 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:14:07am

re: #388 Attaboid

So last night I'm sitting in a church yard eating my onion rings and a guy walks up to me and says: "Do you want to buy my shoes"? "Size 10"?

What do you do?

How much?

392 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:14:10am

re: #385 realwest

My memories of ecoprop remind me that the one constant concern for nuclear power despite the safety protocols in place since 3MI and Chernobyl is that of where the waste is supposed to go.

I remember reading that it is possible to recycle the waste, only one would also end up with weapons-ready plutonium as a byproduct.

393 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:14:41am

re: #388 Attaboid

So last night I'm sitting in a church yard eating my onion rings and a guy walks up to me and says: "Do you want to buy my shoes"? "Size 10"?

What do you do?

Pardon my flippant answer, please. I'd have given him my onion rings.

394 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:14:45am
395 JSK1121  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:14:49am

re: #388 Attaboid

So last night I'm sitting in a church yard eating my onion rings and a guy walks up to me and says: "Do you want to buy my shoes"? "Size 10"?

What do you do?

Pull a Barry and say; "Why can't I just eat my onion rings?"

396 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:17:14am

re: #388 Attaboid

So last night I'm sitting in a church yard eating my onion rings and a guy walks up to me and says: "Do you want to buy my shoes"? "Size 10"?

What do you do?

Forgive my curiosity, but why were you eating onion rings in a church yard?

(I assume that it was the lawn area around a church, not a "church yard" as in cemetery--that would be even more surreal).

397 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:17:57am

re: #379 Wyatt Earp
Morning Wyatt - "Oh the horror" indeed - Obama's campaign, even though by now they know it's a lie, is still running that despicable ad about McCain being computer illiterate.
They know very well why he can't type, and the fact that they ran this ad AT ALL indicates the lack of experience that they've had in running an election against a proven candidate who's fighting tooth and nail against them (and yeah, I know, Hillary fought the good fight, but she took too long, IMO, to start really fighting Obama in the primaries). Now all McCain has to do is run that ad by Obama with one of his "on top of it" about his days as a prisoner of the North Vietnamese and then mention that he co-chairs the Senate Select Subcommittee on telecommunications and the internet and has done so for YEARS. Then show him dictating e-mails to Cindy. Bye-bye Obama.

398 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:18:04am

re: #391 MandyManners

After a quick inspection, Addidas, soles hardly worn. I said, "size 10, 10 bucks"

399 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:18:04am

re: #385 realwest

Well keep in mind that Obama still hasn't even mentioned nuclear power in any of his "energy independence" speeches and yet that is probably the single biggest and fastest way for the US to seriously move to energy independence. Course, we know he hasn't mentioned it because the "activist" arm of the Democratic Left Party can't abide the thought of nuclear power, even though the country most of them admire the most (France) gets over 70% of it's electricity from nuclear power.

I;m not sure about his speeches, but he talks about nulear energy in the energy plan posted on his web site.

400 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:18:39am

re: #397 realwest

Morning Wyatt - "Oh the horror" indeed - Obama's campaign, even though by now they know it's a lie, is still running that despicable ad about McCain being computer illiterate.
They know very well why he can't type, and the fact that they ran this ad AT ALL indicates the lack of experience that they've had in running an election against a proven candidate who's fighting tooth and nail against them (and yeah, I know, Hillary fought the good fight, but she took too long, IMO, to start really fighting Obama in the primaries). Now all McCain has to do is run that ad by Obama with one of his "on top of it" about his days as a prisoner of the North Vietnamese and then mention that he co-chairs the Senate Select Subcommittee on telecommunications and the internet and has done so for YEARS. Then show him dictating e-mails to Cindy. Bye-bye Obama.

Mornin' Real - Unfortunately, libs never let facts get in the way of a good slander.

401 yah  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:19:05am

Another NYT hit piece on Palin

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

It is starting to get boring.

402 lawhawk  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:19:20am

re: #385 realwest

A while back I noticed how Al Gore was busy talking about green energy, and yet one of the articles claimed that he had included clean coal in the discussion. No one ever appeared to follow up on that particular oddity despite the fact that it seems quite important (to me at least).

Coal is one of the scourges of the eco-left, and if Gore had indeed included it in talking about how to get off the oil train, that would be an admission that his zero-growth days may have ended.

403 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:19:52am

re: #382 Cap'n DOC
Hey good morning Cap'n! Yeah I did, and I perused last night's ID thread and was astounded to see that my last comment didn't show up - musta typed it and shut off the computer without actually posting it, or something.
How are you doing today?

404 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:19:58am

Poor souls ...

But reading this (in that link):
"Those killed include Gen Gennady Troshev, a former commander of Russian forces in Chechnya and military advisor to former Russian President Vladimir Putin.", I am not so sure its just a plain accident ...

405 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:20:08am

re: #396 goddessoftheclassroom

Church Lawn, facing a busy street.

406 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:21:24am

re: #402 lawhawk

Clean coal? I seriously doubt Gore would go for that, as it's carbon, after all.

407 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:21:54am

re: #75 redc1c4

red -

That failure has NOTHING to do with the OS. The surge fried some electronics.
Hope that this time you also bought some kind of surge protector. We get occasional surges/outages - usually no more than a couple of minutes. Another hint, Laptops/Notebooks are per se "outage protected" - as in Battery Power. I would be offline, as I use a cable modem - and - still able to do offline stuff, a reasonable compromise. With dial-up, or wi-fi, chances are you would even be online.

-S-

408 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:21:55am

re: #397 realwest

Good morning form an extremely wet Illinois.

It's been raining hard for 3 days and we are supposed to get it all day again today.

Thankfully, my sump pump is new.

409 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:22:19am

re: #392 laZardo
Well it's true that disposing of nuclear waste IS a problem but only because Sen. Harry Ried (L-NV) blocked a bi-partisian commisssion's UNANIMOUS support for a location in the vast wastelands of Nevada.
But I have no doubt we could find someplace to dispose of it; maybe ship it to France! LOL!

410 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:22:42am

re: #397 realwest

I think Sen. McCain should just continue to be positive with the message.

411 itellu3times  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:23:55am

re: #327 opnion

Good Morning all. Just taking a peek to see what your talking a bout.
Saturday Night Live hit some new lows slandering Sarah Palin lsst night.
Nothing about the One.

Hey the opening skit was fantastic, "Sarah" and "Hillary"

412 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:24:39am

re: #403 realwest

Good! I'm torn, however. Do I go with whole wheat waffles or pancakes? Maple syrup or Huckleberry? LOL.

413 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:25:13am

re: #411 itellu3times

I watched that this AM. It was a hoot.

414 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:25:31am

re: #401 yah

Another NYT hit piece on Palin

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

It is starting to get boring.

Just begs the question why they haven't gone trhough B0's history with the same assiduousness - after all, they've had sufficient time, and he's got a whole wardrobe full of skeletons which are perhaps a bit more worrying to the nation that what some disgruntled Palin-foes now think.

(Wonder how much said foes have been paid to come out with their 'stories' now ...)

415 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:25:32am

re: #404 yma o hyd

Poor souls ...

But reading this (in that link):
"Those killed include Gen Gennady Troshev, a former commander of Russian forces in Chechnya and military advisor to former Russian President Vladimir Putin.", I am not so sure its just a plain accident ...

It looked like a comet? Burning in the air?

416 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:27:05am

re: #414 yma o hyd

Just begs the question why they haven't gone trhough B0's history with the same assiduousness - after all, they've had sufficient time, and he's got a whole wardrobe full of skeletons which are perhaps a bit more worrying to the nation that what some disgruntled Palin-foes now think.

(Wonder how much said foes have been paid to come out with their 'stories' now ...)

It took THREE lib idiots to write that NYT piece?

417 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:27:58am

So I bought the shoes. He walked away in white socks muttering he didnt't need them. Then this street urchin comes and sits near me. Says "that guy just *mumble* his shoes. I say "take the shoes and sell them back to him for 5 bucks.

418 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:29:23am

re: #392 laZardo

My memories of ecoprop remind me that the one constant concern for nuclear power despite the safety protocols in place since 3MI and Chernobyl is that of where the waste is supposed to go.

I remember reading that it is possible to recycle the waste, only one would also end up with weapons-ready plutonium as a byproduct.

It's technically possible, IIRC, to transmute nuclear waste into shorter lived isotopes with a suitable neutron source, and I think what you're talking about is a breeder reactor, right?

419 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:29:26am

re: #415 MandyManners

It looked like a comet? Burning in the air?

So they say ...
Might have an 'innocent' explanation, but if so, - or if not! - we'll never learn, 'tis in Russia, after all!

420 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:29:27am

re: #400 Wyatt Earp
Ya know, I actually giggled when I wrote "morning Wyatt" cause I watched Tombstone last night and recall Doc saying just that to Wyatt Earp in the movie!
Well, all merriment to one side, I don't think it's accurate anymore to call them Liberals - the liberals I used to know back in the early 60's and I would disagree about things, but none of them were so deliberately disingenuous about matters such as these.
And they all loved and respected America. The same is manifestly untrue where Obama is concerned.
And I still think that by not letting the facts bite 'em on the ass, they will wind up paying heavily for that ad - it's not about McCain and computers, it's a very thinly veiled attack on older Americans. And while I give Obama a great deal of credit for energizing the younger base of the Left Party, methinks history will prove out again in this election: Younger voters are activists right up until they are supposed to go and, ya know, actually vote, whereas "older" voters invariably turn out in very high numbers to pull the lever in November.

421 Ben Hur  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:29:49am

McCartney warned against Israel show

Former Beatle Sir Paul McCartney's decision to perform in Tel Aviv has made him the target of a terror attack following a threat made against the singer by extremist Islamic leader Omar Bakri.

And he's SHOCKED!

SHOCKED!

422 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:29:50am

re: #417 Attaboid

So I bought the shoes. He walked away in white socks muttering he didnt't need them. Then this street urchin comes and sits near me. Says "that guy just *mumble* his shoes. I say "take the shoes and sell them back to him for 5 bucks.


I was so hoping that there was this kind of ending to the story. I admire your sensitivity and compassion.

423 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:32:04am

re: #418 Dar ul Harb

I never got past the "recycling" and "plutonium" bits, actually...

424 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:32:07am

re: #420 realwest

Ya know, I actually giggled when I wrote "morning Wyatt" cause I watched Tombstone last night and recall Doc saying just that to Wyatt Earp in the movie!
Well, all merriment to one side, I don't think it's accurate anymore to call them Liberals - the liberals I used to know back in the early 60's and I would disagree about things, but none of them were so deliberately disingenuous about matters such as these.
And they all loved and respected America. The same is manifestly untrue where Obama is concerned.
And I still think that by not letting the facts bite 'em on the ass, they will wind up paying heavily for that ad - it's not about McCain and computers, it's a very thinly veiled attack on older Americans. And while I give Obama a great deal of credit for energizing the younger base of the Left Party, methinks history will prove out again in this election: Younger voters are activists right up until they are supposed to go and, ya know, actually vote, whereas "older" voters invariably turn out in very high numbers to pull the lever in November.

Terrific movie, by the way. I agree, though: these new liberals are much more disgraceful than those of old. They are indeed the Hate America First crowd.

425 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:33:26am

re: #402 lawhawkCoal is one of the scourges of the eco-left, and if Gore had indeed included it in talking about how to get off the oil train, that would be an admission that his zero-growth days may have ended.

Yeah, coal is all, like, black and grimy, and stuff.

426 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:33:41am

re: #419 yma o hyd

So they say ...
Might have an 'innocent' explanation, but if so, - or if not! - we'll never learn, 'tis in Russia, after all!

I wonder if in a few weeks there will be some smoking craters in the Caucasus Mountains.

427 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:34:15am

re: #402 lawhawk
Good morning lawhawk - judging by photos of Gore that I've seen recently, I think he has personally gotten off the zero growth train - and probably missed it at the station! Seriously, I don't think environmentalists have a problem with "clean coal" (that is, plants which have been retooled to reduce airborne emissions to practically zilch; not in time to save the US Steel industry, of course but that is what is meant by Clean Coal, I believe).

428 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:35:20am

re: #421 Ben Hur

McCartney warned against Israel show

And he's SHOCKED!

SHOCKED!

"I say, lads, I had no idea this would cause such a row."

429 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:35:22am

re: #422 goddessoftheclassroom

The urchin just left. I have the shoes.

430 hazeleyes  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:35:25am

Surprise, surprise! Detroit Free Press is reporting lots of bad voter applications throughout Michigan, with the majority of those applications coming from ACORN.

[Link: www.freep.com...]

431 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:35:31am

re: #421 Ben Hur

If you break his heart, he'll go...

/but he'll be back again...

432 Billy Hank  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:36:23am

re: #386 goddessoftheclassroom
And I'm still trying to find mine. I'm working on about my fifth career now and looking for more. Just restless. Glad you've found yours. I understand how passing the wit and wisdom of our forebearers condensed in a darn good yarn on to the youngsters would be satisfying. At that age level, I imagine one of the biggest challenges is that they are just starting to discover boys and girls and the differences thereof.

433 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:36:37am

re: #429 Attaboid

The urchin just left. I have the shoes.

You still tried.

Perhaps you could donate them to Good Will or a similar organization.

434 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:36:52am

Good moring all.

As we all know - Not a single American mainstream journalist is doing their job when it comes to reporting the truth about Obama.

here's something from across the pond:

Politician Obama rose through a Chicago machine that is notoriously the most corrupt in the country. As David Freddoso writes in a brilliantly cogent and measured book, The Case Against Barack Obama, the angel of deliverance from the old politics functioned like an old-time Democratic pol in Illinois. He refused repeatedly to side with those lonely voices that sought to challenge the old corrupt ways of the ruling party.

Speechmaker Obama talks about an era of bipartisanship, He speaks powerfully about the destructive politics of red and blue states.

Politician Obama has toed his party's line more reliably than almost any other Democrat in US politics. He has a near-perfect record of voting with his side. He has the most solidly left-wing voting history in the Senate. His one act of bipartisanship, a transparency bill co-sponsored with a Republican senator, was backed by everybody on both sides of the aisle. He has never challenged his party's line on any issue of substance.

Speechmaker Obama talks a lot about finding ways to move beyond the bloody battlegrounds of the “culture wars” in America; the urgent need to establish consensus on the emotive issue of abortion.

Politician Obama's support for abortion rights is the most extreme of any Democratic senator. In the Illinois legislature he refused to join Democrats and Republicans in supporting a Bill that would require doctors to provide medical care for babies who survived abortions. No one in the Senate - not the arch feminist Hillary Clinton nor the superliberal Edward Kennedy - opposed this same humane measure.

Here's the real problem with Mr Obama: the jarring gap between his promises of change and his status quo performance. There are just too many contradictions between the eloquent poetry of the man's stirring rhetoric and the dull, familiar prose of his political record.

more...

435 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:37:34am

re: #430 hazeleyes

Surprise, surprise! Detroit Free Press is reporting lots of bad voter applications throughout Michigan, with the majority of those applications coming from ACORN.

[Link: www.freep.com...]

"There appears to be a sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent applications," said Kelly Chesney, spokeswoman for the Michigan Secretary of State's Office. "And it appears to be widespread."

Chesney said her office has had discussions with ACORN officials after local clerks reported the questionable applications to the state. Chesney said some of the applications are duplicates and some appear to be names that have been made up. The Secretary of State's Office has turned over several of the applications to the U.S. Attorney's Office.

SNIP

436 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:37:41am

re: #416 Wyatt Earp

It took THREE lib idiots to write that NYT piece?

And God knows how many lawyers checking that they toe the line just this side of outright libel ...

437 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:38:12am

re: #434 FrogMarch

Link?

438 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:38:40am

...

It's been remarked that the biggest difference between Americans and Europeans is religion: ignorant Americans cling to faith; enlightened Europeans long ago embraced the liberating power of reason. Yet here's an odd thing about this election. Europeans are asking Americans to take a leap of faith, to break the chains of empiricism and embrace the possibility of the imagination.

The fact is that a vote for Mr Obama demands uncritical subservience to the irrational, anti-empirical proposition that the past holds no clues about the future, that promise is wholly detached from experience. The second-greatest story ever told, perhaps.

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

439 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:38:44am

re: #434 FrogMarch

He refused repeatedly to side with those lonely voices that sought to challenge the old corrupt ways of the ruling party.

Yet when Palin starts her reform of the GOP from Alaska, they accuse her of "trying to settle personal vendettas."

/wtf.

//link is missing?

440 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:39:14am

re: #404 yma o hyd
Poor souls indeed.
But ya know, 1000 meters is well within range of a Stinger missle and could account for the aircraft "bursting into flames" at about 1000 meters above the runway.
Realwest: starting new conspiracy theory - damned if I'll fall behind on another one! LOL!

441 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:39:45am

re: #437 MandyManners

Link?

Hi Mandy - see 438.

442 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:41:21am

re: #435 MandyManners

"There appears to be a sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent applications," said Kelly Chesney, spokeswoman for the Michigan Secretary of State's Office. "And it appears to be widespread."

Chesney said her office has had discussions with ACORN officials after local clerks reported the questionable applications to the state. Chesney said some of the applications are duplicates and some appear to be names that have been made up. The Secretary of State's Office has turned over several of the applications to the U.S. Attorney's Office.


Uh oh!

443 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:42:20am

re: #435 MandyManners

"There appears to be a sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent applications," said Kelly Chesney, spokeswoman for the Michigan Secretary of State's Office. "And it appears to be widespread."

Chesney said her office has had discussions with ACORN officials after local clerks reported the questionable applications to the state. Chesney said some of the applications are duplicates and some appear to be names that have been made up. The Secretary of State's Office has turned over several of the applications to the U.S. Attorney's Office.

SNIP

Expect to see this in all the states where Obama is close. Why can't someone shut down ACORN? (DNC voter fraud machine)

444 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:42:20am

re: #440 realwest

Vladimir Putin loves apple pie.

And if you don't...goodbye!

445 shug  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:42:42am

re: #435 MandyManners

"There appears to be a sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent applications," said Kelly Chesney, spokeswoman for the Michigan Secretary of State's Office. "And it appears to be widespread."

Chesney said her office has had discussions with ACORN officials after local clerks reported the questionable applications to the state. Chesney said some of the applications are duplicates and some appear to be names that have been made up. The Secretary of State's Office has turned over several of the applications to the U.S. Attorney's Office.

SNIP


Obama : Voter Fraud we can believe in.

446 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:42:54am

re: #439 laZardo

Yet when Palin starts her reform of the GOP from Alaska, they accuse her of "trying to settle personal vendettas."

/wtf.

//link is missing?

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

447 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:43:02am

re: #408 3 wood
Ah, good morning my (soggy) friend! Yeah, I heard that Chicago got a record 7 inches of rain yesterday - thank God that you have a new sump pump!
Have you had to actually use it yet?
Please be careful driving anywhere today - even just to church and home; wet and sometimes flooded roads tend to bring out the worst drivers of all - folks who just don't have a CLUE when it comes to driving on wet roads!
Other than soggy, how are ya today?

448 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:43:14am

re: #438 FrogMarch

...

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

The author needs to send that column to his colleague Jonathan Freedland over at al-Guardian.

449 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:43:27am

re: #426 MandyManners

I wonder if in a few weeks there will be some smoking craters in the Caucasus Mountains.

I'd hazard the guess that there'll be a few more 'accidents' involving former generals first ...
Putin has form getting rid of generals who might set up a challenge to him - not that anything was or can ever be proved against him or his cronies from the former KGB.

Remember him?
(But then, generals have this unfortunate habit of using helicopters, airplanes, cars ...)

450 Truck Monkey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:44:03am

re: #425 Tigger2005

Coal is one of the scourges of the eco-left, and if Gore had indeed included it in talking about how to get off the oil train, that would be an admission that his zero-growth days may have ended.

Yeah, coal is all, like, black and grimy, and stuff.

RACIST!

/

451 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:45:06am

re: #444 laZardo

Vladimir Putin loves apple pie.

And if you don't...goodbye!

I LOVE apple pie!

452 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:45:49am
453 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:46:06am

re: #421 Ben Hur
Good day Ben! Of course Sir Paul is shocked - he's on their side, don't those stupid terrorists know that?!?!

454 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:46:27am

re: #451 Attaboid

I LOVE apple pie!

Come the Revolution, you won't have to eat moldy potatoes! You'll feast on strawberries and cream!

But, I don't like strawberries and cream.

Come the Revolution you will eat strawberries and cream AND YOU WILL LOVE IT!

455 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:46:45am

re: #451 Attaboid

Found that on someone's sig pic on a forum.

There was also this satire video linked here during the early days of the Georgia conflict. The author of that video commented that "[he] does not want to be polonium poisoned, so he'll remain neutral. (; "

456 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:47:10am

re: #453 realwest

I think you meant John.

/though IMO it was all Yoko's fault.

457 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:48:30am

re: #430 hazeleyes

Surprise, surprise! Detroit Free Press is reporting lots of bad voter applications throughout Michigan, with the majority of those applications coming from ACORN.

[Link: www.freep.com...]

From that link:

"Lagstein said ACORN's Detroit office has hired dozens of employees for the voter registration program and that any problems likely stem from sloppiness or incompetence -- not an intent to let people vote more than once.

"We're proud of our efforts to increase voter registration, and we have aggressive training for our staff to make sure the cards are filled out appropriately," he said.

ACORN has a method to track the workers who filled out individual registration cards, which will allow investigators to question the workers, Lagstein said.

"We certainly do our best to keep the duplications as low as possible, so we'll have to evaluate what's happening here," he said."

Oh yeah - sloppy workers, too right!
And - 'keeping duplications as low as possible'? That sounds as if they're duplicating like hell, some will always slip through the net if a town clerk cottons on ... ACORN success!

I hope people inform their own town clerk,s to check applications with a fine tooth comb now!

458 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:49:21am

re: #455 laZardo

I Hate Polonium not Poles!

459 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:49:30am

re: #430 hazeleyes
LOL! I'm shocked, SHOCKED I say, to hear that ACORN might be involved in something like that!
That report must have been written by a racist!
Man, ACORN is just chock full of nuts!

460 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:49:49am

re: #423 laZardo

One of the best parts about nuclear waste transmutation is that it can actually be used as a useful source of energy in addition to mitigating the waste.

(Apologies in advance for the science reporting in the NYT article, such as sentences like this:

Transmutation requires a particle accelerator, a reactor, or both, to bombard nuclear waste with neutrons. This forces the long-lived radioactive atoms to undergo fission, thereby producing the lighter atomic variants known as isotopes that rapidly decay to relatively harmless materials.

)

461 Truck Monkey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:50:54am

re: #457 yma o hyd

From that link:

"Lagstein said ACORN's Detroit office has hired dozens of employees for the voter registration program and that any problems likely stem from sloppiness or incompetence -- not an intent to let people vote more than once.

"We're proud of our efforts to increase voter registration, and we have aggressive training for our staff to make sure the cards are filled out appropriately," he said.

ACORN has a method to track the workers who filled out individual registration cards, which will allow investigators to question the workers, Lagstein said.

"We certainly do our best to keep the duplications as low as possible, so we'll have to evaluate what's happening here," he said."

Oh yeah - sloppy workers, too right!
And - 'keeping duplications as low as possible'? That sounds as if they're duplicating like hell, some will always slip through the net if a town clerk cottons on ... ACORN success!

I hope people inform their own town clerk,s to check applications with a fine tooth comb now!

As I stated on a previous thread. If the Dummycrats could just figure out a better way to distribute the Malt Liquor and Cigarettes to these "new" voters the Repubs would be in real trouble.

462 laZardo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:51:28am

re: #460 Dar ul Harb

Transmutation requires a particle accelerator, a reactor, or both, to bombard nuclear waste with neutrons. This forces the long-lived radioactive atoms to undergo fission, thereby producing the lighter atomic variants known as isotopes that rapidly decay to relatively harmless materials.

That means the French just beat us again. Black holes and strange matter? That was all just to scare us into not trying that sort of thing!

/ [=

463 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:51:39am

50 something days to clean up ACORN's mess.

Memo to McCain Camp: Reveal the Community Organizer's role in ACORN operations.

/Morning Lizards! How's the coffee?

464 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:52:27am

re: #452 Ojoe
Good morning Ojoe and - again - thanks for the great photo!
How are you today?

465 lawhawk  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:52:37am

Well, here's where I found the discrepancies... could never quite figure it out...

Meanwhile, here's something else that is quite easy to figure out, and yet the Democrats in Congress can't seem to buy a clue. They're still letting Charles Rangel near the Ways and Means Committee after all his admitted violations of the tax code.

His latest gaffe? Failing to report junkets paid for on lobbyist funds under the NEW House rules.

466 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:53:04am

re: #440 realwest

Poor souls indeed.
But ya know, 1000 meters is well within range of a Stinger missle and could account for the aircraft "bursting into flames" at about 1000 meters above the runway.
Realwest: starting new conspiracy theory - damned if I'll fall behind on another one! LOL!

It doesn't sound too unlikely to me, as conspiracy theories go - after all, it was dark (plane crashed in the very early hours of the morning) - so detection of 'terrorists' would have been highly unlikely ...

467 Truck Monkey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:53:48am

re: #463 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

50 something days to clean up ACORN's mess.

Memo to McCain Camp: Reveal the Community Organizer's role in ACORN operations.

/Morning Lizards! How's the coffee?

I like my coffee like The One likes his woman.


Strong, Black, and Bitter.

468 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:55:08am

BBIAM!

469 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:55:10am

re: #438 FrogMarch

...

The fact is that a vote for Mr Obama demands uncritical subservience to the irrational, anti-empirical proposition that the past holds no clues about the future, that promise is wholly detached from experience. The second-greatest story ever told, perhaps.

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Doesn't BHO have an ad out now that says Sen. McCain is 25 years behind the times?

470 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:55:25am

re: #467 Truck Monkey

I like my coffee like The One likes his woman.


Strong, Black, and Bitter.

As long as you don't also throw in "hot" we are all good here...

471 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:55:42am

re: #452 Ojoe

Here comes the sun at this moment over the top of the San Gabriel Mountains, California. (Towercam)


Happy Sunday Morning, Pacific time zone.

That is awesome!
Thanks - here the sun is practically covered by hazy grey clouds - very watery sunshine (if one can call it that ...).

472 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:56:23am

re: #442 laZardo


Uh oh!

I'm bouncing my head.

473 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:57:05am

re: #443 FrogMarch

Expect to see this in all the states where Obama is close. Why can't someone shut down ACORN? (DNC voter fraud machine)

To do so right now would bring howls of political persecution.

474 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:57:10am

re: #460 Dar ul Harb

Actually some of the daughter products of the fuel in a reactor have very long half lives.

For instance 93Zr with a half life of 1.53 million years

475 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:57:45am

re: #445 shug

Obama : Voter Fraud we can believe in.

I'm glad these new registrations are being scrutinized.

476 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:57:53am

re: #464 realwest

OK, gotta stack firewood today fortunately with the help of my boys.

477 guftafs  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:58:21am

Here's a funny thing about Robert Spencer's repudiation of the anti-jihad conference in Cologne. He writes:

And I think that a race-based approach is wrong in a number of ways. To repeat:

1. ... The jihad is not a race, ...

2. ... reduces virtually every issue to the one non-negotiable issue of race and ethnicity, discourages cooperation, and thus encourages Balkanization, ...

3. This approach hamstrings and marginalizes the anti-jihad movement. ...

4. ... the parties that speak of race are the only ones in Europe that are doing anything to resist Islamization, and thus they deserve the support ... I don't think that is any sounder an argument than the claim that we must support Hizballah because it builds schools and runs charities ...

Points 2 and 3 are merely tactical considerations, saying in effect that the race-base, ie racist, approach is impractical.

It would have been sufficient to reject any race-based (racist) argument with the simple observation that racism is a false view of man that historically has resulted in immeasurable suffering and hatred and that he cannot support any action based on such a repugnant view. Racism is impractical because it is false and therefore will not work when put into practice. He never does reject the racism of the white nationalists. In fact, he wobbles and later writes

But while culture has a racial component, culture and race are not identical.

It would be interesting to know exactly what Mr Spencer means by this and how he reached this conclusion. You could say that the obvious should go without saying, but in these circumstances it is well worth articulating your basic ideas. You could be misunderstood otherwise. Just my $.05

478 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:58:32am

re: #462 laZardo

That means the French just beat us again. Black holes and strange matter? That was all just to scare us into not trying that sort of thing!

/ [=

Note that the NYT article (from 1991) says that the infrastructure costs of transmutation would be about $20 billion. That's not so very expensive when you consider the cost of a lot of the other things the federal government does.

If we're going to build new reactors, we need devote to at least some of that money to implementing transmutation.

479 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:59:30am

re: #449 yma o hyd

I'd hazard the guess that there'll be a few more 'accidents' involving former generals first ...
Putin has form getting rid of generals who might set up a challenge to him - not that anything was or can ever be proved against him or his cronies from the former KGB.

Remember him?
(But then, generals have this unfortunate habit of using helicopters, airplanes, cars ...)

I hadn't thought about him in ages!

480 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 6:59:55am

re: #471 yma o hyd

The sun will eventually power most of the technological things on this planet.

Good Morning to you, also.

481 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:00:25am

re: #476 Ojoe
"stack firewood" - hell it looks like too nice a day for that, why don't you just let it all laying on the ground for a while?! LOL!

482 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:01:14am

re: #447 realwest

Have you had to actually use it yet?
Please be careful driving anywhere today - even just to church and home; wet and sometimes flooded roads tend to bring out the worst drivers of all - folks who just don't have a CLUE when it comes to driving on wet roads!
Other than soggy, how are ya today?

Sorry for the delay, had to go walk the dogs and eat breakfast.

The sump is going almost non-stop, the sump pit is filling up like afire hose is spraying into it.

Yeah, will be careful, you never know how slippery the roads will get.

I'm doing fine. Been about 10 days since our last round of golf and my right shoulder is feeling pretty good. Might get out for a round this week.

Got another full week of teaching in front of me, then we will see what the story is on the person I'm subbing for.

I'm pretty happy. One of my dulcimers developed a fret buzz about a year ago and I thought I had worn it out. Now that I'm semi-retired and have some exra time, I was able to get out a file and smooth out the fret, so now I can use that dulcimer again. It was one of my favorites.

483 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:01:54am

BBIAB

484 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:02:17am

re: #469 MandyManners

Doesn't BHO have an ad out now that says Sen. McCain is 25 years behind the times?

That ad back-fired.
Barack Obama was raised on a solid diet of radical left-wing ideology. But that doesn't matter - we must blindly support him or else we are racists.

485 Truck Monkey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:02:44am

re: #470 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

As long as you don't also throw in "hot" we are all good here...

I purposely did not put that one in there. I still believe that Michelle is really Wayne Brady in drag.

486 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:02:58am

re: #477 guftafs
Uh, link, please? (mind you I'm not a fan of Robert Spencer, not after his - as I perceived it - lukewarm support of Charles when the whole European contra jihadist crap hit the fan a year or so ago).

487 shug  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:03:45am

re: #469 MandyManners

Doesn't BHO have an ad out now that says Sen. McCain is 25 years behind the times?

That's right : Silly Senator McCain. He let those VC break his arms so he didn't have to use a keyboard and become a slave to e-mail.

change!

488 guftafs  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:04:01am

re: #486 realwest

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

489 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:04:01am

re: #452 Ojoe

Here comes the sun at this moment over the top of the San Gabriel Mountains, California. (Towercam)


Happy Sunday Morning, Pacific time zone.

Wow! That is blinding even through my screen.

490 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:04:52am

re: #481 realwest

Fog drip ! But when stacked, under a tarp it goes, and dry then.


Must eat big non-0bama breakfast. Other countries might not say OK.

491 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:04:57am

re: #467 Truck Monkey

I like my coffee like The One likes his woman.


Strong, Black, and Bitter.

Oh, you're just awful!

492 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:05:01am

The SUN powers everyting on Earth.

493 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:05:23am

re: #482 3 wood
Sorry to hear about your sump but glad to hear that you were able to salvage that dulcimer - can you remove/replace frets on one of them?

494 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:05:31am

re: #491 MandyManners

Oh, you're just awful!

Isn't it wonderful?

495 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:05:49am

re: #489 MandyManners

The solar orb will soon move out of the picture.

496 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:06:09am

re: #484 FrogMarch

That ad back-fired.
Barack Obama was raised on a solid diet of radical left-wing ideology. But that doesn't matter - we must blindly support him or else we are racists.

He isn't shy about providing clues to that either - the Decembrists front band for his Oregon stadium speech, whose music is straight out of the Russian Revolution. . . . . . and then there were those banners on the outside of the convention center in Denver. You know the ones - narrow, with stylistic bands of blue "mountains" rising to a white sky, topped by a great big Red Star.

497 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:06:23am

re: #471 yma o hyd

Morning, Someone rubbished the Welsh 11 hours ago but I stood up for you.

498 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:07:21am

re: #484 FrogMarch

That ad back-fired.
Barack Obama was raised on a solid diet of radical left-wing ideology. But that doesn't matter - we must blindly support him or else we are racists.

One ad made fun of his disability, the other made fun of his age.

KEEP IT UP, BHO!

499 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:08:21am

re: #487 shug

That's right : Silly Senator McCain. He let those VC break his arms so he didn't have to use a keyboard and become a slave to e-mail.

change!

Doesn't he know how many verterans, families of veterans and friends of veterans VOTE?

500 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:08:29am

re: #492 Attaboid

The SUN powers everyting on Earth.

Well, not nuclear reactors.
The remains of other stars power those.

501 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:08:58am

re: #498 MandyManners

One ad made fun of his disability, the other made fun of his age.

KEEP IT UP, BHO!

Hey, he's batting 1000 so far. :)

502 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:08:59am

re: #494 goddessoftheclassroom

Isn't it wonderful?

I laughed as I shook my head.

503 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:09:32am

re: #495 Ojoe

The solar orb will soon move out of the picture.

The Sun revolves around the Earth!

504 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:09:56am

By the way, it's looking more and more like there will not be a bail out of Lehman

Will Lehman be forced to break up?

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- The forced breakup of Lehman Bros. or even its liquidation became a possible scenario over the weekend as talks dragged on unsuccessfully Saturday between top U.S. financial officials and executives at major Wall Street firms trying to forestall the collapse of the investment firm and to keep weakness among financials from spreading.

According to a report in the online edition of the Wall Street Journal citing people familiar with the matter, the outlines of a rescue plan emerged, but at the same time talks revealed that a sale of the entire firm to a big bank could probably not be managed.

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Treasury officials and banking executives have been meeting since Friday evening in the hopes of engineering a plan for a private-sector rescue for the once-venerable investment firm before Asian markets open for trading Monday.

Look for a lot of further turmoil in the financial markets if no deal is done by Monday morning. The issue is, nobody wants to throw good money after bad and support the bad loans made by this entity. The private banks are playing a bit of a game of chicken with the Treasury on this.

AIG, the insurer, is also teetering.

The Fed's need to get the bleeding stopped or it will be a long, cold winter.

505 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:10:01am

But don't worry... Barry promises CHANGE:

His campaign is now going to hit McCain to drive home the message of HOPE that he can link McCain to Bush.

/Funny, isn't that what they were doing? How about putting some meat on that skeleton of platitudes as to _what_ CHANGE you are talking about and _how_ your clique of elitist neophytes is going to do it.

Remember, going from Hindenberg to Hitler was CHANGE, too.

506 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:10:29am

re: #500 Dar ul Harb

Also to get technical, the tides are powered by the momentum of the moon-sun-earth system, which drags the water around on the earth, so tide energy is gravitational energy.

507 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:10:43am

re: #496 galloping granny

He isn't shy about providing clues to that either - the Decembrists front band for his Oregon stadium speech, whose music is straight out of the Russian Revolution. . . . . . and then there were those banners on the outside of the convention center in Denver. You know the ones - narrow, with stylistic bands of blue "mountains" rising to a white sky, topped by a great big Red Star.

How many people knew about the band, and how many figured out what those banners represented?

508 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:11:06am

re: #499 MandyManners

Doesn't he know how many verterans, families of veterans and friends of veterans VOTE?

I don't think he gives any credence at all to those of us that are bitter typical white people clinging to our guns, our religion and our lipstick. We are dirt under his shoes, the first he will eliminate when he brings about his glorious revolution. In his mind - and he has said this so many times that it is obvious that he truly believes this - he already IS the president and any vote to be taken is nothing more than a formality.

509 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:11:10am

re: #501 galloping granny

Hey, he's batting 1000 so far. :)

Out of the park!

510 nyc redneck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:11:31am

re: #499 MandyManners

Doesn't he know how many verterans, families of veterans and friends of veterans VOTE?

i bet a lot of older people will vote too.
imagine how disgruntled they are w/obama and his snide insults abt. age.

511 shug  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:11:43am

re: #499 MandyManners

Doesn't he know how many verterans, families of veterans and friends of veterans VOTE?

He thinks he can shoot some hoops in Kuwait and win them over.

The audacity of egomania

512 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:11:53am

re: #503 MandyManners

Well yes it does, also, it is a matter of your reference point, just as true (but more complicated), to say the sun goes around us.

513 akak  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:11:59am

re: #504 3 wood

Merril Lynch may not be far behind.

514 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:12:31am

The MSM is not reporting the truth about Obama

While the DNC media relentlessly digs at governor Palin -

“nepotism, Chicago style.”

The truth is swept under the run.

515 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:12:35am

re: #508 galloping granny

I don't think he gives any credence at all to those of us that are bitter typical white people clinging to our guns, our religion and our lipstick. We are dirt under his shoes, the first he will eliminate when he brings about his glorious revolution. In his mind - and he has said this so many times that it is obvious that he truly believes this - he already IS the president and any vote to be taken is nothing more than a formality.

I can hardly wait until he has his head handed to him.

516 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:12:51am

re: #488 guftafs
Well you did leave this out of your quote in your #2 "works against the idea of representative government, and obscures the common values of Judeo-Christian civilization that are shared by people of many races and ethnicities." as well as this in your
#3 " Many people who oppose the Islamization of Europe will never join with a race-based party to do so. As I said above, Hugh Fitzgerald and I have often commented here over the years about the tragedy in Europe: the mainstream political parties have completely abdicated any responsibility to deal with the Islamization of Europe, thus leaving the field open to groups that obscure the issue with racial politics."[emphasis added realwest]

And I do think that Spencer is spot on about it all with the addition of the material you quoted from his peice. As I said, I think Spencer should have come to Charles assistance waaay sooner that he did and much stronger than he did, but I do think he's on the correct side of this argument.

517 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:13:05am

re: #493 realwest

Sorry to hear about your sump but glad to hear that you were able to salvage that dulcimer - can you remove/replace frets on one of them?

Oh sure, just buy some fret wire and cut them to fit. But that's only part of the story. The frets have to really be custom fit so they do not cause buzzing at any other fret.

I had thought the wood was cracked and vibrating, it took a while of careful listening to figure out it was a fret wire and not the body of the instrument.

Looking forward to the Giants game today?

518 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:14:16am

re: #496 galloping granny

He isn't shy about providing clues to that either - the Decembrists front band for his Oregon stadium speech, whose music is straight out of the Russian Revolution. . . . . . and then there were those banners on the outside of the convention center in Denver. You know the ones - narrow, with stylistic bands of blue "mountains" rising to a white sky, topped by a great big Red Star.

Obama is taunting the masses. He knows that we know that he knows he is a communist.

519 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:14:18am

re: #490 Ojoe
LOL! Eat it up while you can - Obama may yet be our next POTUS.
Uh, gotta go to the bathroom and throw up, BBIAM!

520 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:14:48am

re: #507 MandyManners

How many people knew about the band, and how many figured out what those banners represented?

I don't know about the band, but a couple of days ago a friend and I took the kids to the ocean. She is fortyish, no college, stay at home Mom with no TV. She mentioned watching just a bit of the Dem convention at her MIL's and I asked her if she had seen the banners on the outside of the convention center. "You mean the ones with the Soviet Red Star?" she says. . . . .

I suspect more than a few caught that.

521 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:15:20am

re: #510 nyc redneck

i bet a lot of older people will vote too.
imagine how disgruntled they are w/obama and his snide insults abt. age.

I hope they put him in the biggest Time-Out Chair ever.

522 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:16:06am

re: #499 MandyManners
Hell he doesn't even know any veterans himself!

523 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:16:08am

re: #513 akak

Merril Lynch may not be far behind.

Agreed, that's why I say the Fed's have got to get the bleeding stopped. Once a big house goes under, you will see liquidity dry up and the market plummet.

One then needs to contemplate that most pension funds are invested in the market to see what the impact of that will be.

524 lawhawk  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:16:31am

re: #467 Truck Monkey

Funny, I like my coffee like I like humor:
strong, dark, and without the sugary aftertaste

525 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:16:32am

re: #487 shug

That's right : Silly Senator McCain. He let those VC break his arms so he didn't have to use a keyboard and become a slave to e-mail.

change!

Commented on this at #198 two threads back.

526 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:16:36am

re: #521 MandyManners

I hope they put him in the biggest Time-Out Chair ever.

ROFLOL

527 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:16:43am

re: #511 shug

He thinks he can shoot some hoops in Kuwait and win them over.

The audacity of egomania

Just from my own family, I know that my dad's old squadron (whatever it's called) keeps in pretty close contact on the Internet now, and boy do that dislike that bastard.

528 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:17:00am

re: #519 realwest

LOL! Eat it up while you can - Obama may yet be our next POTUS.
Uh, gotta go to the bathroom and throw up, BBIAM!

If so, I reserve the right to spend 4-8 years calling him illegitimate.

/Good for the goose, good for the gander.

529 Truck Monkey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:18:01am

Greenspan on Stephanopopoppopolussuss right now.

530 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:18:33am

re: #504 3 wood
What? "AIG, the insurer, is also teetering."? Holy crap - iirc, AIG is the largest of those insurers, too.
and:
"The Fed's need to get the bleeding stopped or it will be a long, cold winter." Fixed the emphasis on that one for ya!

531 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:18:44am

re: #512 Ojoe

Well yes it does, also, it is a matter of your reference point, just as true (but more complicated), to say the sun goes around us.

The Kid did a really cool science project in the first grade that showed heliocentrism. This year he gets to build a model of the solar system that shows the actual rotation of the planets, with bonus points if the model has the planets turning on their axes. Oh, joy.

532 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:19:36am

re: #506 Ojoe

Also to get technical, the tides are powered by the momentum of the moon-sun-earth system, which drags the water around on the earth, so tide energy is gravitational energy.

Good point.
But the sun still has something to do with it...

533 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:19:37am

re: #524 lawhawk

Funny, I like my coffee like I like humor:
strong, dark, and without the sugary aftertaste

Like my coffee like I like my women;
Wrapped in Styrofoam™ with a little stick in the middle.

534 shug  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:20:05am

re: #525 lifeofthemind

Commented on this at #198 two threads back.

wow, that was so well said. !
You should e-mail that to the McCain campaign. Who knows, they might use it

but
Hopefully if they are smart, they have somebody patrolling this blog and have already picked up on the theme.

McCain campaign : Don't let Obama get away with these lies

535 nyc redneck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:20:43am

re: #518 FrogMarch

Obama is taunting the masses. He knows that we know that he knows he is a communist.

he thinks there's more of his ilk in this country than patriots who reject him.
(he may be starting to realize that is wrong. could be why he making such a fool of himself).

536 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:21:15am

re: #520 galloping granny

I don't know about the band, but a couple of days ago a friend and I took the kids to the ocean. She is fortyish, no college, stay at home Mom with no TV. She mentioned watching just a bit of the Dem convention at her MIL's and I asked her if she had seen the banners on the outside of the convention center. "You mean the ones with the Soviet Red Star?" she says. . . . .

I suspect more than a few caught that.

Oh, marvelous!

537 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:21:25am

By the way, for any Cubs fans out there, I think you can relax now. I watched the Brewers get spanked by the Phillies yesterday and the Brewers have pretty much given up. I would not be surprised if the get caught by the Astros for 2nd place.

So the Cubs are in the playoffs. Now its a matter of what they do when the dance starts.

Interesting note on the Cubs. I found out that GM Jim Hendry is in the last year of his deal, but he has a 1 year option. Problem for the club is the option is Hendry's, not the ownership.

So if I'm Hendry, I take my Division Championship this year at the minimum, shop it around, and get myself a 5 year deal somewhere else. What I'm saying is, with the team up for sale, don't expect to see GM Hendry back next year.

538 nyc redneck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:21:45am

re: #521 MandyManners

I hope they put him in the biggest Time-Out Chair ever.

lol, and duct tape him to it.

539 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:21:48am

re: #505 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey, good morning! Fox and Friends had some polling dude on (sorry, didn't get his name) who said that Obama's ad's are now going to emphasize that McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time, so there isn't gonna be any change at all if McCain gets elected. But McCain could easily point back that in fact Obama has voted with Bush a majority of the time too, so what does Obama's add prove, if anything?
We'll just skip over the idea of the President voting; Obama probably thinks he does vote and McCain knows he doesn't.

540 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:22:11am

re: #531 MandyManners

The Kid did a really cool science project in the first grade that showed heliocentrism. This year he gets to build a model of the solar system that shows the actual rotation of the planets, with bonus points if the model has the planets turning on their axes. Oh, joy.

HE gets to build it? Isn't he if 4th grade? Sounds like he gets to help you build it :)

541 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:22:26am

re: #522 realwest

Hell he doesn't even know any veterans himself!

What about Wesley Clark?

542 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:22:46am

re: #530 realwest

What? "AIG, the insurer, is also teetering."? Holy crap - iirc, AIG is the largest of those insurers, too.
and:
"The Fed's need to get the bleeding stopped or it will be a long, cold winter." Fixed the emphasis on that one for ya!


Which gets to the question of how much of this is being manipulated by Soros and outside sovereign wealth funds? The Russians are locking up control of Venezuela's energy to box Europe and America from two sides. This is War folks.

543 arizona9  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:23:16am

This will come as a big shock but an MSNBC hour long Saturday special on Palin included lie after lie. They said she 'favored creationism' and was against stem cell research. And earlier I watched SNL rip Palin apart as I knew they would. I couldn't take much more than the opening skit which included the Matt Damon fabrication about Palin believing humans and dinosaurs were on earth at the same time. The scary thing is many many people will believe it and the SNL pounding could cement some of these lies as 'truth'. Oy. Please someone tell me why nobody will point out that Obamasiah has never been grilled like Palin was on foreign policy.

544 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:23:20am

re: #526 Ojoe

ROFLOL

I have this image of BHO sitting on a stool in the corner wearing a dunce cap.

545 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:24:21am

re: #533 lifeofthemind

Like my coffee like I like my women;
Wrapped in Styrofoam™ with a little stick in the middle.

Perv!

546 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:24:31am

re: #540 galloping granny

HE gets to build it? Isn't he if in 4th grade? Sounds like he gets to help you build it :)

PIMF

547 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:25:02am

re: #517 3 wood
Yes indeed I am looking forward to my Giants taking on that powerhouse St. Louis football club!
But I can't watch it - too many other things getting in the way; besides the Giants win more often when I dont' watch 'em!

548 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:25:12am

re: #538 nyc redneck

lol, and duct tape him to it.

As long as it doesn't touch the skin. I found out the hard way that it can hurt THIN skin.

549 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:25:36am

re: #543 arizona9

Please someone tell me why nobody will point out that Obamasiah has never been grilled like Palin was on foreign policy.

Because they want him to win.
/that will be $5, next question?

550 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:26:11am

re: #530 realwest

What? "AIG, the insurer, is also teetering."? Holy crap - iirc, AIG is the largest of those insurers, too.

Yep.

AIG shares slump, says 'everything on the table'

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Insurance giant American International Group, beset by a record stock slump and a possible cut from ratings agency Standard & Poor's, said Friday it was reviewing its businesses and that "everything was on the table," suggesting it might sell assets to raise capital and avoid a crippling downgrade.

The company had been preparing for a major reorganization announcement on Sept. 25, but on Friday the Wall Street Journal reported on its Web site that the company may hold a conference call for analysts on Monday during which it could announce asset sales.
AIG shares slumped a record 31% Friday on concern the world's largest insurer may be downgraded by ratings agencies, triggering billions of dollars in new capital needs.

This situation needs to be dealt with and I mean now. You will see pension funds losing 30% to 50% of their value if this situation get out of control.

551 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:26:12am

re: #540 galloping granny

HE gets to build it? Isn't he if 4th grade? Sounds like he gets to help you build it :)

Third. I might as well start collecting styrofoam balls now.

552 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:26:24am

re: #543 arizona9

This will come as a big shock but an MSNBC hour long Saturday special on Palin included lie after lie. They said she 'favored creationism' and was against stem cell research. And earlier I watched SNL rip Palin apart as I knew they would. I couldn't take much more than the opening skit which included the Matt Damon fabrication about Palin believing humans and dinosaurs were on earth at the same time. The scary thing is many many people will believe it and the SNL pounding could cement some of these lies as 'truth'. Oy. Please someone tell me why nobody will point out that Obamasiah has never been grilled like Palin was on foreign policy.

I would take comfort from the fact that MSNBC has a very low market share and Hannity is doing a special on Palin. Not to mention that virtually no Christians of any stripe believe that dinosaurs and people both roamed the earth at the same time, even the most Bible-believing of us.

553 Truck Monkey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:26:28am

re: #533 lifeofthemind

Like my coffee like I like my women;
Wrapped in Styrofoam™ with a little stick in the middle.

Had to think about this one. Are you ok?

554 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:27:13am

re: #542 lifeofthemind

Which gets to the question of how much of this is being manipulated by Soros and outside sovereign wealth funds? The Russians are locking up control of Venezuela's energy to box Europe and America from two sides. This is War folks.

I said that the day that Russia invaded Georgia.

555 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:28:28am

Obama and ACORN:

During Obama’s time on the Woods Funds ACORN received grants of $45,000 (2000), $30,000 (2001), $45,000 (2001), $30,000 (2002), and $40,000 (2002) from the Woods Fund. (Obama in the early 1990’s helped train ACORN organizers and later served as counsel in 1995 for ACORN in a “motor voter” registration lawsuit.) And ACORN certainly appreciated whatever assistance Obama afforded the radical organization over the years.

556 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:29:10am

re: #551 MandyManners

Third. I might as well start collecting styrofoam balls now.

You can make really good Saturns and Neptunes by cutting the styrofoam ball in half, then sandwiching a CD in the middle.

557 arizona9  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:29:23am

re: #549 lifeofthemind

That's why the scum sucking press won't, of course, but come on McCain campaign and Republicans and start hammering them on this! I would love to see some rogue journo pull out a list and pop quiz Obamasiah they way they did to Bush. We all know he'd fail miserably.

558 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:30:12am

Realclear now has MInnesota as a Toss Up from previously being Leaning Obama. No change in the complete Electoral Map with No Toss Ups.

559 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:30:27am

re: #541 MandyManners
Weasely Clark notwithstanding I stand by my statement. Same for John Fucking Murtha whom Obama also knows. There are veterans and there are VETERANS* and I'd wager that as many as 85% of VETERANS can't stand Obama at all.

*VETERANS = folks who've served in the military but haven't been corrupted by political activities or office.

560 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:31:50am

re: #518 FrogMarch

Obama is taunting the masses. He knows that we know that he knows he is a communist.

Of course, if that's any indication, we have cause to worry as well...

(Obama really ought to be the one using the red star!)

561 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:33:17am

re: #547 realwest

Yes indeed I am looking forward to my Giants taking on that powerhouse St. Louis football club!
But I can't watch it - too many other things getting in the way; besides the Giants win more often when I dont' watch 'em!

I'm looking forward to the Bears game, although I think they will lose.

The Bears are the only team to start this year playing the first 2 games on the road. Thanks a lot, schedule makers.

I will be very interested in the Pat - Jets game too.

562 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:33:47am

re: #560 Dar ul Harb

Of course, if that's any indication, we have cause to worry as well...

(Obama really ought to be the one using the red star!)

He is - the Red Star was all over the outside of the convention center where he held his convention.

563 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:33:48am

re: #543 arizona9

This will come as a big shock but an MSNBC hour long Saturday special on Palin included lie after lie. They said she 'favored creationism' and was against stem cell research. And earlier I watched SNL rip Palin apart as I knew they would. I couldn't take much more than the opening skit which included the Matt Damon fabrication about Palin believing humans and dinosaurs were on earth at the same time. The scary thing is many many people will believe it and the SNL pounding could cement some of these lies as 'truth'. Oy. Please someone tell me why nobody will point out that Obamasiah has never been grilled like Palin was on foreign policy.

SNL is just Air America for late night TV.

564 arizona9  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:34:39am

Hey did anyone else see Mccain on the View. I can't bring myself to watch it..my blood pressure would go through the roof. Was it as bad as they're trying to make it out to be-McCain's performance, I mean. I think he, even if not true, was crazy to go on that show..with 2 effing certifiable liberal loons. Painfully painfully ignorant liberal loons.

565 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:35:55am

re: #562 galloping granny

He is - the Red Star was all over the outside of the convention center where he held his convention.

I was commenting on that. Perhaps I should have said Obama's bumper stickers (rather than McCain's!) should use the red star.

Truth in advertising, after all...

566 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:36:32am

re: #560 Dar ul Harb

Of course, if that's any indication, we have cause to worry as well...

(Obama really ought to be the one using the red star!)

That red star has a slight slant to it. It doens't remind me of the communist red star that says: "Hi - I'm Barack Obama the communist centrist - vote for me"

567 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:37:34am

Here's a shock football fans. Stone cold wacko Al Davis is looking to fire the Raiders coach two weeks into the year.

Report: Davis, Raiders set to fire Kiffin as soon as Monday

The job of Oakland Raiders coach Lane Kiffin has come under fire again from the one person that matters, according to the San Jose Mercury News.

In late January, ESPN Senior NFL Analyst Chris Mortensen reported that Raiders owner Al Davis had drawn up a resignation letter for Kiffin a week into the year and asked the coach to quit.

No self respecting coach would work for that mad man. Davis is a vapid and vacuous twit who belongs in some good nursing home.

568 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:38:00am

I mean Vote Red?

VOTE RED !?

569 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:38:08am

re: #539 realwest

Hey, good morning! Fox and Friends had some polling dude on (sorry, didn't get his name) who said that Obama's ad's are now going to emphasize that McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time, so there isn't gonna be any change at all if McCain gets elected. But McCain could easily point back that in fact Obama has voted with Bush a majority of the time too, so what does Obama's add prove, if anything?
We'll just skip over the idea of the President voting; Obama probably thinks he does vote and McCain knows he doesn't.

Running against Bush... my goodness... what will they come up with next!

/FWIW, I'm hoping the Cubs blow it. Being from downstate, I'd much rather see the Cards there and the 100 year tradition of the Cubs needs to be preserved.

570 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:38:32am

re: #555 FrogMarch

Obama and ACORN:

Link?

571 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:38:37am

re: #564 arizona9

Hey did anyone else see Mccain on the View. I can't bring myself to watch it..my blood pressure would go through the roof. Was it as bad as they're trying to make it out to be-McCain's performance, I mean. I think he, even if not true, was crazy to go on that show..with 2 effing certifiable liberal loons. Painfully painfully ignorant liberal loons.

McCain is learning the hard way that he is no longer the media darling. The left-wing media are doing whatever they can to tear him apart. I agree - he never should have given legitimacy that that lame show where it takes 3 progressive bitches to take on ONE conservative normal person.

572 guftafs  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:38:44am

re: #516 realwest

My point was that Spencer, in part, by his own admission, agrees with the view that "race matters".

But while culture has a racial component, culture and race are not identical.

How?

573 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:38:56am

re: #565 Dar ul Harb

I was commenting on that. Perhaps I should have said Obama's bumper stickers (rather than McCain's!) should use the red star.

Truth in advertising, after all...

Ah - I see. My apologies.

574 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:39:24am

re: #556 galloping granny

You can make really good Saturns and Neptunes by cutting the styrofoam ball in half, then sandwiching a CD in the middle.

Oh, wow! I never would've thought of that! Thank you.

575 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:39:28am

The Rasmussen breakdown is less sure for McCain but the trend is still there. What I am hoping for is that when the Real Clear Electoral breakdown has McCain over 270 you will hear a Giant Snapping Sound of checkbooks closing on the Democratic side. Obama might run out of gas in 3 weeks. If he literally can't sustain the campaign and finds himself with dwindling attention he might become self destructive. Not hoping for it but saying that he strikes me as a very fragile and artificial personality. Wonder what Dr. Sanity thinks of him.

576 arizona9  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:39:47am

But McCain could easily point back that in fact Obama has voted with Bush a majority of the time too

Do you know what percentage..curious.

577 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:40:13am

re: #559 realwest

Weasely Clark notwithstanding I stand by my statement. Same for John Fucking Murtha whom Obama also knows. There are veterans and there are VETERANS* and I'd wager that as many as 85% of VETERANS can't stand Obama at all.

*VETERANS = folks who've served in the military but haven't been corrupted by political activities or office.

As I noted above, that's my take on the situation.

578 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:40:44am

re: #570 MandyManners

Link?

sorry - linked above in PJM article. (514)
here tis - [Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

579 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:40:51am

re: #550 3 wood
Holy shit. That news, together with the rumor about Merrill (which I find difficult to believe) could indeed show pension funds losing 30% to 50% of their value
and that could indeed lead to a depression - maybe a BIG depression which will of course destroy the American economy but also the world's economy in a very short time frame.
And, of course, lead to an Obama victory - maybe a BIG victory. That it seems to me is a basic problem with "capitalism" as we know it - regulated too much or not enough, government involved too much or not enough; "unfettered capitalism" does sometimes lead to disaster. Of course sometimes disaster leads to opportunity but that won't feed the hungry or clothe the newly poor.
And yes, the government DOES bear a HUGE responsiblity here; right after the Savings and Loan and Federal Savings Banks fiasco in the early 90's, the FDIC adopted extremely strict rules on mortgage loans. Those rules got tossed somewhere along the way and the result was the astronomical jumps in "market" prices of homes AND COMMERCIAL properties and the loans made by Lenders who were only to eager to make them, take the "points" in as profits, and sell them off to the investment brokers, who would bundle those morgtages and then sell bonds to the public (VERY frequently retirement funds) and "secure" the payment of those bonds with the self same poorly made real estate mortgages.
What do you hear about TIAF-CREF?

580 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:41:44am

re: #564 arizona9

Hey did anyone else see Mccain on the View. I can't bring myself to watch it..my blood pressure would go through the roof. Was it as bad as they're trying to make it out to be-McCain's performance, I mean. I think he, even if not true, was crazy to go on that show..with 2 effing certifiable liberal loons. Painfully painfully ignorant liberal loons.

I didn't see it but, I heard plenty here and elsewhere about Whoopi asking him if she'd be a slave if he were elected.

581 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:42:20am

re: #574 MandyManners

Oh, wow! I never would've thought of that! Thank you.

Any time. You might also check out the education stuff at NASA. There are reams of it, but somewhere you should find some plans for something similar.

582 yesandno  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:42:27am

Bit OT

On Rush on Friday....he was examining the announcement by the Congressman that Jesus was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a Governor.

Rush stated that Jesus was not a community organizer...he was truth...

A few calls later, a Latino caller named Jesus, who was anti-Obama, indicated he had been a community organizer way back when....

Rush didn't catch it....

583 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:42:40am

re: #579 realwest

It really does go back to Whitewater and the Clinton bubble.

584 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:43:23am

Mornin' all. Hopefully today will just be laundry and football. Yesterday turned into get a new hot water heater into place and no football. Then again I didn't miss anything I hear. USC made Ohio State look like fools.
Univ. Wash had their handed to them by Ooklahoma. Anyway we now have a hotwater heater that won't run out!

585 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:43:27am

re: #569 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

/FWIW, I'm hoping the Cubs blow it. Being from downstate, I'd much rather see the Cards there and the 100 year tradition of the Cubs needs to be preserved.

I love the rivalry.

586 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:44:55am

Having a "Vote Red" slogan for the McCain/Palin campaign is like... like...

Well, what would Reagan do?

587 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:45:34am

re: #575 lifeofthemind

The Rasmussen breakdown is less sure for McCain but the trend is still there. What I am hoping for is that when the Real Clear Electoral breakdown has McCain over 270 you will hear a Giant Snapping Sound of checkbooks closing on the Democratic side. Obama might run out of gas in 3 weeks. If he literally can't sustain the campaign and finds himself with dwindling attention he might become self destructive. Not hoping for it but saying that he strikes me as a very fragile and artificial personality. Wonder what Dr. Sanity thinks of him.

I don't know what she thinkgs but, I think he's a text-book narcissist.

(When will Dr. Sanity come back from her sabbatical?)

588 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:46:17am

re: #585 3 wood

Which side of the fence you on, buddy?

/Not that I'll hold it against you or something.

589 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:47:39am

re: #579 realwest

That it seems to me is a basic problem with "capitalism" as we know it - regulated too much or not enough, government involved too much or not enough; "unfettered capitalism" does sometimes lead to disaster. Of course sometimes disaster leads to opportunity but that won't feed the hungry or clothe the newly poor.
And yes, the government DOES bear a HUGE responsiblity here; right after the Savings and Loan and Federal Savings Banks fiasco in the early 90's, the FDIC adopted extremely strict rules on mortgage loans. Those rules got tossed somewhere along the way and the result was the astronomical jumps in "market" prices of homes AND COMMERCIAL properties and the loans made by Lenders who were only to eager to make them, take the "points" in as profits, and sell them off to the investment brokers, who would bundle those morgtages and then sell bonds to the public (VERY frequently retirement funds) and "secure" the payment of those bonds with the self same poorly made real estate mortgages.
What do you hear about TIAF-CREF?

Well, you can have "market-failures" in a free market system. This market failure is more from poorly thought through legislation than the market itself, but the damage is hitting the market.

So are TIAF-CREF seems okay, but again it depends on the underlying market itself.

Monday could get real rocky in the market.

590 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:47:41am

re: #586 Dar ul Harb

like... like...

Having an Islamic "crescent of embrace" as the Flight 93 Memorial.

591 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:47:44am

re: #578 FrogMarch

sorry - linked above in PJM article. (514)
here tis - [Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

Thanks!

I would say I'd bookmarked it but, I've hit the upper-limit 2,500 links in My Favorites so I'm now reduced to e-mailing links to another screen name address.

592 loveguru  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:48:56am

Good evening room...

today evening we will visit Lesson 1 from desk of Omar Bakri !

The Mujahdeen's Jihad is blessed Terrorism

593 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:48:57am

re: #588 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Which side of the fence you on, buddy?

/Not that I'll hold it against you or something.

I'm a White Sox fan.

You know, the one Chicago team that has actually won something in the last 100 years (that should stir up the Cubs fans). :)

594 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:49:04am

re: #484 FrogMarch

That ad back-fired.
Barack Obama was raised on a solid diet of radical left-wing ideology. But that doesn't matter - we must blindly support him or else we are racists.

Red Diaper Baby vs. 3rd Generation Navy Officer

Chose wisely, grasshopper.

595 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:49:48am

re: #583 lifeofthemind
Yes it does go back to Clinton, but, sad to say, the Republicans didn't help matters any either.
Trouble with politicians is you can't really find a powerful politician who hasn't had to compromise his/her principles to get ahead and after a while compromising principles doesn't seem to be such a big deal anymore.
Keeping the economy "growing" is a mantra for every American President - not so much individual congressmen and senators. Dubya, much as it pains me to say it, coulda and shoulda done something with the FDIC and FTC to curb some of the real estate abuses very early into his administration.
The GWoT is as much an economic one as a bullets and bombs one.

596 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:49:53am

re: #581 galloping granny

Any time. You might also check out the education stuff at NASA. There are reams of it, but somewhere you should find some plans for something similar.

I'd not thought about looking at the NASA site yet.

Right now I'm trying to come up with an experiment that shows how hot rises and cold sinks to help hammer home how weather works.

597 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:50:24am

re: #593 3 wood

I'm a White Sox fan.

You know, the one Chicago team that has actually won something in the last 100 years (that should stir up the Cubs fans). :)

You are wise, grasshopper.

598 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:50:50am

re: #587 MandyManners

I don't know what she thinkgs but, I think he's a text-book narcissist.

(When will Dr. Sanity come back from her sabbatical?)

She's back as of last week.

599 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:51:45am

re: #584 pingjockey

Mornin' all. Hopefully today will just be laundry and football. Yesterday turned into get a new hot water heater into place and no football. Then again I didn't miss anything I hear. USC made Ohio State look like fools.
Univ. Wash had their handed to them by Ooklahoma. Anyway we now have a hotwater heater that won't run out!

Did you see the Notre Dame coach get his knee blown out standing on the sideline? Talk about being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Michigan sucked, by the way. Notre Dame should not be patting themselves on the back for that win, they should have beat Michigan by 40.

600 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:52:06am

re: #576 arizona9

Well considering most of the time he voted 'present', the percentage maybe quite high. Heh.

601 akak  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:52:37am
Like Lehman and Bear, Merrill has holdings of structured debt that are triggering write-downs and calling into question its overall capital position.

Merrill Lynch has been one of the hardest hit firms over the course of the year-old credit crisis, posting well over $40 billion in write-downs and credit losses and selling valuable assets to raise capital.

Hardly a rumor.

602 flynmudd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:52:39am

Obama Acorn connection. Obama will try to steal the election through voter fraud and if that doesn't work, he will send his minions in to harass and intimidate.

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

603 Gordon Marock  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:53:28am

WAKE UP LAZY WEST COASTERS!

604 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:54:08am

re: #592 loveguru
Sheesh. Are the folks over there ever gonna wake up to the madman in the room with the big frakkin' knife?

605 jwb7605  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:54:09am

re: #567 3 wood

Here's a shock football fans. Stone cold wacko Al Davis is looking to fire the Raiders coach two weeks into the year.

Report: Davis, Raiders set to fire Kiffin as soon as Monday

No self respecting coach would work for that mad man. Davis is a vapid and vacuous twit who belongs in some good nursing home.

Like maybe Mike Shanahan?
Us Broncos fans are sure pleased with last Monday's game ...

606 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:54:14am

re: #596 MandyManners

I'd not thought about looking at the NASA site yet.

Right now I'm trying to come up with an experiment that shows how hot rises and cold sinks to help hammer home how weather works.

Balloon. Hair dryer. Freezer. Two balloons actually. You blow them up so they are the same size. Measure the diameter. Heat one with a hair dryer (on LOW!) and put the other in the freezer. The one you heat up will expand, the one you freeze will shrink. You can do the same with helium filled balloons to show the rising of hot air.

607 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:54:28am

re: #597 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

You are wise, grasshopper.

I was talking to a real arrogant Cubs fan the other day who was talking smack about what the Cubs might do this year, compared to the deteriorating
White Sox.

So I said "Let's compare World Champioships in the last 5 years."

End of conversation.

608 nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:54:45am

re: #599 3 wood

Did you see the Notre Dame coach get his knee blown out standing on the sideline? Talk about being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Michigan sucked, by the way. Notre Dame should not be patting themselves on the back for that win, they should have beat Michigan by 40.

If the Weiss lost maybe, oh I don't know, like 125lbs maybe he coulda side stepped that hit, but I digress.

609 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:55:06am

re: #599 3 wood
Michigan got beat again?! Heard about the coach though. Sidelines are dangerous.

610 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:55:12am

re: #600 pingjockey

Well considering most of the time he voted 'present', the percentage maybe quite high. Heh.


Obama can't use the Present dodge in the US Senate. It is a trick he pulled in the Illinois State Senate. I'd like to see a breakdown of how his use of that procedure compared to that of other Members.

611 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:55:19am

Speaking of baseball teams that have not won anything recently, how about those Yankees?

612 Gordon Marock  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:56:14am

Here is a great piece in Sami Al-Arian's favorite rag, The St. Pete Times, that exposes Indonesian Madrassas as a place where respectful and tolerant students learn about readin writin and rithmatic.

St. Pete Times Indonesian Madrassa Whitewash

613 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:56:24am

re: #598 lifeofthemind

She's back as of last week.

I did not know that. Thanks!

614 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:56:42am

re: #609 pingjockey

Michigan got beat again?! Heard about the coach though. Sidelines are dangerous.

He was watching the ball on a punt and somebody got blocked out of bounds and rolled him up from behind. Perfect crackback block.

615 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:56:55am

re: #605 jwb7605
The Raiders, since they lost the Super Bowl have been a wreck. Al needs to retire, sell the team, get out.

616 ayatollah ghilmeini  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:56:57am

Few points then I am out of here:

1. Ike show that nothing, no amount of planning can save people who stay in the path of a killer storm. Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families who could not get out in time.

2. Ike also shows the idiocy of building and locating human habitation in places likely to hit by such storms. Why in the world should we spend billions rebuilding Galveston? If people want to live near the water, make sure their homes have wheels.

3. Another week like this week and you can put a fork in the democrats. They are flailing not fighting. McCain is reaching right out to centrist democrats and independents, fueled by his newly electrified base, while the democrats are already shrieking at each other like an unhappily married couple. The Clintons are nowhere to be seen; they are are barely lifting a pinky to help the upstart. The domain Hillary2012, I am sure has been reserved.

4. The Dems deserve to lose. Turning a resurgentparty over to the fuzzy kumbaya "netroots," unreconstructed fools who think they understand the world by pretending everyone likes us, was a bad plan. They are presenting the voting public with a double loser candidate- a man who should lose for being the left most candidate they have ever fielded and the least experienced candidate in the modern era. The Dems are all abuzz about dropping Biden to bring in Hil to save them, but there is no talk of fixing the real problem- the top of the ticket.

5. Friday, America lost a hero. Tommy was a WWII bomber pilot who flew many missions over Europe before getting shot down. He was captured. The escaped and joined the Dutch underground until liberation. In business and community leadership he was an example to us all. His devout Catholicism was the rock of his. He was a wonderful father and one of the greatest men I have ever known. I have met many great people over the years, Presidents, Governors, Heads of State, Vice Presidents, Senators and Congressmen, billionaires and humble working men, I considered Tommy as equal, if not greater great of any of them. The world is less of place without him. Rest in peace, Tommy.

617 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:57:04am

re: #610 lifeofthemind

Obama can't use the Present dodge in the US Senate. It is a trick he pulled in the Illinois State Senate. I'd like to see a breakdown of how his use of that procedure compared to that of other Members.

The HELL he can't. He has failed to cast a vote in the US Senate well over 130 times - that is when I stopped counting. His voting record - perhaps better termed his non-voting record - is readily available at [Link: www.votesmart.org...]

618 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:57:06am

re: #602 flynmudd

Obama Acorn connection. Obama will try to steal the election through voter fraud and if that doesn't work, he will send his minions in to harass and intimidate.

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

I assume Ohio will be stolen, has been already really with the Motor-Voter-Instant-Voters.

619 nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:57:21am

re: #611 3 wood

Speaking of baseball teams that have not won anything recently, how about those Yankees?

Hey 3 wood, do you usually slice or hook?

620 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:57:37am

re: #594 Who Watches the Watchmen?

re: #484 FrogMarch

That ad back-fired.
Barack Obama was raised on a solid diet of radical left-wing ideology. But that doesn't matter - we must blindly support him or else we are racists.

Uhm... okay, I just might be 'racist'... so tell me, what is the Marxist race?

/not YOU, Froggie!

621 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:57:49am

re: #610 lifeofthemind
Ah. Didn't know that. Senators have to vote yea or nay? Or absent?

622 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:58:48am

re: #602 flynmudd

Obama Acorn connection. Obama will try to steal the election through voter fraud and if that doesn't work, he will send his minions in to harass and intimidate.

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

That's one link I did not have. Thanks for posting it!

623 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:59:26am

re: #606 galloping granny

Balloon. Hair dryer. Freezer. Two balloons actually. You blow them up so they are the same size. Measure the diameter. Heat one with a hair dryer (on LOW!) and put the other in the freezer. The one you heat up will expand, the one you freeze will shrink. You can do the same with helium filled balloons to show the rising of hot air.

Awesome!

624 nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:59:41am

re: #621 pingjockey

Ah. Didn't know that. Senators have to vote yea or nay? Or absent?

Well you can vote for it before you vote against it?

625 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:59:45am

re: #602 flynmudd

Obama Acorn connection. Obama will try to steal the election through voter fraud and if that doesn't work, he will send his minions in to harass and intimidate.

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

No worries - The NY Times is on it! Right after they desperately try and crap all over Palin for uh uh uh - what amounts to a non-story.

626 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 7:59:59am

re: #621 pingjockey

Ah. Didn't know that. Senators have to vote yea or nay? Or absent?

No they do not. They are allowed to vote "Present." Most don't. My ultra-liberal senator from Vermont, Patrick Leahy, has failed to cast a vote a mere 5 times in all the years he has been in the Senate. Most of those were during the big ice storm we had up here a decade ago.

627 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:00:54am

re: #619 nevergiveup

Hey 3 wood, do you usually slice or hook?

Usually a draw, but I can play a fade whenever I want, too. I almost never play a "straight" shot, I'm always shaping a shot in for one reason or another, depending on the lie and conditions.

628 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:01:15am

re: #611 3 wood
HEY! I resent that remark pal! How many World Series have the White Sox won compared to the Yankees? I'm sorry, I can't hear you, can you speak a little louder? What's that - the Yankees have won more than twice as many world championships as any other baseball team in history? More than any other sports francise in history?
That's what I thought.

629 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:01:30am

re: #617 galloping granny
Thanks granny, but the damn thing ain't user friendly!

630 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:01:32am

re: #623 MandyManners

Awesome!

No problem. I teach chemistry :) Another experiment that is also useful for illustrating the effects of temperature is to take two white cups, fill one with hot water and the other with cold, then put a tea bag into each at the same time and watch how fast the tea develops.

631 nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:01:53am

Hey, just curious, have those reporters down in Galverston been able to bath in the last 3 days. Bet there isn't to much hanky panky going on?

632 loveguru  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:02:09am

re: #604 pingjockey

well Lebanese are still sleeping even after loosing entire country, and so do British .... now how to help those, who don't want to wake up ?

633 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:02:19am

re: #617 galloping granny

The HELL he can't. He has failed to cast a vote in the US Senate well over 130 times - that is when I stopped counting. His voting record - perhaps better termed his non-voting record - is readily available at [Link: www.votesmart.org...]

No Vote is just that, it means he did not vote. The trick of voting "Present" is not used in Washington but is used in Springfield Illinois.

634 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:02:36am

re: #629 pingjockey

Thanks granny, but the damn thing ain't user friendly!

Here you go - [Link: votesmart.org...]

You will notice entire categories where he has never cast a vote.

635 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:02:47am

re: #626 galloping granny
Thanks. Can't get that link just to show obambis record. I'll play with it later. Good thing to know.

636 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:02:54am

re: #620 Karridine

Uhm... okay, I just might be 'racist'... so tell me, what is the Marxist race?

/not YOU, Froggie!

The Marxist race? You mean the race for "

from each according to his ability - to each according to his need"

? or some such collective nonsense? Obama's Chicago politics proved that it works. Viva Tony Rezko!

/

637 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:03:10am

re: #615 pingjockey

The Raiders, since they lost the Super Bowl have been a wreck. Al needs to retire, sell the team, get out.

He thought they won because of him.

No, they won because they had some good front office talent evaluators and they left as soon as they could get jobs elsewhere.

638 flynmudd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:03:12am

re: #618 lifeofthemind

I think Soros is going to get his way. Mass chaos.

639 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:03:30am

re: #621 pingjockey

Ah. Didn't know that. Senators have to vote yea or nay? Or absent?


That's what I think. Of course I could be wrong. Thought I was wrong once, was mistaken though.

640 nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:03:42am

re: #628 realwest

HEY! I resent that remark pal! How many World Series have the White Sox won compared to the Yankees? I'm sorry, I can't hear you, can you speak a little louder? What's that - the Yankees have won more than twice as many world championships as any other baseball team in history? More than any other sports francise in history?
That's what I thought.

Yup, now if we can just figure out a way to get A-Rod the hell outa town. That bum, we ain't never gonna win till he is gone. Did I mention I hate him?

641 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:04:07am

re: #616 ayatollah ghilmeini Great post my friend, but, and I'm ashamed I have to ask, but Tommy who?

642 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:04:21am

re: #620 Karridine

Uhm... okay, I just might be 'racist'... so tell me, what is the Marxist race?

/not YOU, Froggie!


The Marxist race? You mean the race for "from each according to his ability - to each according to his need"? -- or some such collective nonsense? Obama's Chicago politics proved that it works. Viva Tony Rezko!

/

fixed..

643 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:04:27am

re: #633 lifeofthemind

No Vote is just that, it means he did not vote. The trick of voting "Present" is not used in Washington but is used in Springfield Illinois.

You are incorrect. See the bottom of the page -

Vote Key
Vote Key

NV - Not Voting, Excused, Absent, or Present

644 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:05:00am

re: #628 realwest

HEY! I resent that remark pal! How many World Series have the White Sox won compared to the Yankees? I'm sorry, I can't hear you, can you speak a little louder? What's that - the Yankees have won more than twice as many world championships as any other baseball team in history? More than any other sports francise in history?
That's what I thought.

I wondered where you went.

So now we are talking ancient history? :)

645 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:05:00am

re: #632 loveguru
I don't know. The Thought police have the UK public in a choke hold and any thing that smacks of standing up to jihadis seems to be whacked down pretty hard. I thought the bus bombing would get their attention, but no. My wifes family is in Wales.

646 Geepers  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:05:20am

Hey ayatollah ghilmeini!

Glad to see you hitting the keyboard. Hope things are good for ya.

647 Karridine  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:05:29am

re: #636 FrogMarch

Oh.

THAT race...

/and with that, I'm outta here... this stormy night (2205) in suburban Bangkok rolls quickly into Monday (Mudnay) and I gotta work early, Froggy!

Be good all y'all! See yez as C...

648 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:05:41am

Later folks.

649 JCM  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:06:55am

Morning Lizards.....

This caught my eye this morning.

Russian Plane Crashes, Killing 88

An Aeroflot flight crashed in a central Russian city on Sunday shortly before landing, killing all 88 passengers and crew on board, officials said.

The plane, a Boeing 737, crashed in the city of Perm on the outskirts of a residential area, disrupting service on a major railway and highway. Debris from the aircraft was scattered over a wide area, according to images shown on Russian television.

[snip]

While there were reports that the plane’s engines caught fire before the crash, there was no indication of terrorism or sabotage. Officials said the plane, built in 1992, had passed a recent inspection.

[snip]
However this guy was aboard...

The authorities said a prominent military official, Colonel General Gennady Troshev, 61, former commander of Russian forces in Chechnya, was among the dead.

I'd say some folks would like him dead, and wouldn't mind bring down a whole plane to do it.

650 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:07:06am

re: #630 galloping granny

No problem. I teach chemistry :) Another experiment that is also useful for illustrating the effects of temperature is to take two white cups, fill one with hot water and the other with cold, then put a tea bag into each at the same time and watch how fast the tea develops.

We're doing an experiment with milk, water and food coloring this week. I forget what it's supposed to illustrate.

651 3 wood  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:07:23am

Got to run to church folks.

Stay dry.

Real, I'll call you later.

652 nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:07:30am

re: #644 3 wood

I wondered where you went.

So now we are talking ancient history? :)

There ain't no history like ancient history. So what's your point? And at least our team is managed by an American, not a buddies of Hugo's?

653 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:07:44am

Instapundit poll, had fun commenting, only chance to comment on InstaP.
Really gone for a while.

654 galloping granny  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:08:25am

re: #650 MandyManners

We're doing an experiment with milk, water and food coloring this week. I forget what it's supposed to illustrate.

Surface tension usually.

655 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:08:26am

re: #607 3 wood

I was talking to a real arrogant Cubs fan the other day who was talking smack about what the Cubs might do this year, compared to the deteriorating
White Sox.

So I said "Let's compare World Champioships in the last 5 years."

End of conversation.

Yeah, that's what gets me about the Cubs... not the team, for the most part, they really are the lovable losers... (some arrogant exceptions noted).

It's the fans.

First you have the die hard suffers (like you met) who, given a two game winning streak will talk trash and get all out of control in your face.

The other ones get to me even more... the fair weather Cubs fans (like my sister). These people pay no heed to the team most of the time, but on the odd chance they have a good season, they become (very suddenly) rabid fans who live, eat and breath Cubs.

It's sick.

To be fair, my sister did the same thing with the Bears back in the 80's.

656 Sizzlack  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:08:54am

Well I just got back from Dunkin Donuts and who do I see standing on my street corner?
Our favorite politician...Nancy Pelosi!
She has fam here...and I see her often but today took every ounce of strength not to say something obnoxious to her.
Last time I saw her in my lobby she wouldn't even look me in the eye.

Epitome of class.

657 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:09:20am

re: #640 nevergiveup
"Did I mention I hate him?" Ah, no, no you didn't. But, perceptive soul that I am, I did deduce that fact! LOL!
However, the problems the Yankees face can't be solved by getting rid of A-Rod - the team is OLD. The Farm system couldn't grow a pitcher - starter or relief, or a centerfielder if they wanted to.
The good news is that Cashman may come back as GM.

658 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:09:26am

Skills to learn for life under an Obama administration:
1. Demonstrating need
2. Concealing means

659 flynmudd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:10:26am

Obama's Liberal Shock Troops

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

660 JCM  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:10:47am

re: #656 Sizzlack

Well I just got back from Dunkin Donuts and who do I see standing on my street corner?
Our favorite politician...Nancy Pelosi!
She has fam here...and I see her often but today took every ounce of strength not to say something obnoxious to her.
Last time I saw her in my lobby she wouldn't even look me in the eye.

Epitome of class.

Walk by muttering under breath...

drill brains drill brains drill brains........

661 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:11:49am

re: #644 3 wood
Yup, of course that assumes that Ancient History starts about oh, 10 or so years ago.
And where were the White Sox during ancient history, btw?
Oh, right, throwing a World Series!

662 Sizzlack  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:11:52am

re: #660 JCM

I actually considered walking up to her and introducing myself as Mr. Handmaiden of the "oil companies".

663 JCM  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:11:58am

re: #658 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Skills to learn for life under an Obama administration:
1. Demonstrating need
2. Concealing means

3. Hiding weapons and ammo.

664 jwb7605  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:11:59am

re: #656 Sizzlack

Well I just got back from Dunkin Donuts and who do I see standing on my street corner?
Our favorite politician...Nancy Pelosi!
She has fam here...and I see her often but today took every ounce of strength not to say something obnoxious to her.
Last time I saw her in my lobby she wouldn't even look me in the eye.

Epitome of class.

Did she have a mattress on her back? Curb Service?

665 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:12:01am

re: #649 JCM

Morning Lizards.....

This caught my eye this morning.

Russian Plane Crashes, Killing 88


I'd say some folks would like him dead, and wouldn't mind bring down a whole plane to do it.

An earlier link reported that witnesses said it came down like a comet--on fire.

666 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:12:36am

re: #646 Geepers
Hey Geepers! How are you doing today?

667 Sizzlack  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:12:47am

re: #664 jwb7605

she has a very large SS entourage. NYPD highway patrol in front as the escort and then like 2 or 3 suburbans and a towncar.

668 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:12:57am

re: #654 galloping granny

Surface tension usually.

Okay.

669 rwmofo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:14:28am

Crap. They have Paul Begala on the ABC Sunday morning show. Between Begala and Katrina vanden Heuvel (not on today at least) there's no way ABC can go any lower. These two never have any valid points. Their sole role is to insult the right.

670 Geepers  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:14:31am

Morning realwest.

Good. Tired, but good.

671 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:14:32am

re: #649 JCM Good morning JCM! Um, see posts #404 and #440 above!
I will NOT be out-conspiracy theoried this time! LOL!

672 JCM  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:15:17am

re: #665 MandyManners

An earlier link reported that witnesses said it came down like a comet--on fire.

Planes don't often do that by themselves.

With a hight value target on board, and coming down like a comet, that would put terror on the front burning in my book.

673 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:15:18am

re: #661 realwest

Yup, of course that assumes that Ancient History starts about oh, 10 or so years ago.
And where were the White Sox during ancient history, btw?
Oh, right, throwing a World Series!

If you were playing for Cominski back then, you would, too.

674 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:15:21am

re: #656 Sizzlack

Well I just got back from Dunkin Donuts and who do I see standing on my street corner?
Our favorite politician...Nancy Pelosi!
She has fam here...and I see her often but today took every ounce of strength not to say something obnoxious to her.
Last time I saw her in my lobby she wouldn't even look me in the eye.

Epitome of class.

To be fair, I imagine politicians just sometimes don't want to be "on". They're only human.

675 republic  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:15:31am

re: #638 flynmudd

I think Soros is going to get his way. Mass chaos.

These confirmed Evil vermin will all lose in the end.

Good enough for all of them.

spit!

676 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:16:08am

re: #664 jwb7605

*whack*

677 Syrah  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:16:16am

re: #658 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Skills to learn for life under an Obama administration:
1. Demonstrating need
2. Concealing means

They left thinks that "From each according to his abilities and to each according to his needs." will create a heaven on earth when in fact it will create a hell.

[Time to stock up on some pitchforks]

678 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:16:25am

I think Chris Wallace has the guy Palin beat for gov on fox, or some other shill. Says the coverup is widespread. It was the asshat she beat. What cover up? What ethics investigation? Is this over the state trooper?

679 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:16:28am
680 Sizzlack  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:16:55am

re: #674 MandyManners

To be fair, I imagine politicians just sometimes don't want to be "on". They're only human.

Oh of course. Which is why I never bother her when I see her here, but I figure the one time she walked right past me (literally just the two of us) she would have at least looked up at me.

681 JCM  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:17:02am

re: #671 realwest

Good morning JCM! Um, see posts #404 and #440 above!
I will NOT be out-conspiracy theoried this time! LOL!

He and Vald have a falling out?

If so the the old Soviet Union is back in force.

682 jwb7605  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:17:08am

re: #676 MandyManners

*whack*

Thank you. May I have another?
/

683 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:17:12am

re: #667 Sizzlack

she has a very large SS entourage. NYPD highway patrol in front as the escort and then like 2 or 3 suburbans and a towncar.

She may be a freakin' liberal loon but, she needs protection.

684 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:18:18am

re: #656 Sizzlack
GACK! You had a chance to educate Pelosi (I know, I know, it was a long shot anyway) and you didn't take it?!
Oh, I'd LOVE to run into certain politicians in the street- and some in a back alley! LOL!

685 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:18:29am

re: #672 JCM

Planes don't often do that by themselves.

With a hight value target on board, and coming down like a comet, that would put terror on the front burning in my book.

That's my take, particularly with the Chechen connection.

686 akak  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:18:39am

re: #665 MandyManners

An earlier link reported that witnesses said it came down like a comet--on fire.


Read that it went off radar at exact moment of last cockpit communication.

687 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:18:50am

re: #683 MandyManners
God help us, She is 3rd in line for president! Know who's fourth....The Grand Kleagle from W. Virginia.

688 JCM  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:19:07am

re: #677 Syrah

They left thinks that "From each according to his abilities and to each according to his needs." will create a heaven on earth when in fact it will create a hell.

[Time to stock up on some pitchforks]

That's past pitchforks, what we have now is pitchfork grade. You quote above is the reason the 2nd Amend exists.

689 Sizzlack  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:19:15am

re: #683 MandyManners

She may be a freakin' liberal loon but, she needs protection.

The funny thing is that no one has a clue who she is. I know because I am friendly with her daughter so it sticks out to me when I see the line of suburbans, but she was just standing out on the street and tons of people walked by and literally didn't even turn their heads. Not to say she of course doesn't need the SS, just kinda funny.

690 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:20:47am

Hey the Dark Lord Rove is on and they're calling Wash. state a toss up.
That'd be news. The westside, I-5 corridor tells the rest of us how it's gonna be.

691 reine.de.tout  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:20:51am

re: #631 nevergiveup

Hey, just curious, have those reporters down in Galverston been able to bath in the last 3 days. Bet there isn't to much hanky panky going on?

Oh, yuck!
Yes, even in redneck Galverston, showers are available.
Even when electricity goes out, water is usually still running just fine. And if one has a gas water heater, one will even have hot and cold running water! Imagine that.

692 republic  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:21:37am

re: #669 rwmofo

Crap. They have Paul Begala on the ABC Sunday morning show. Between Begala and Katrina vanden Heuvel (not on today at least) there's no way ABC can go any lower. These two never have any valid points. Their sole role is to insult the right.


It would only be a concern if there were more than the usual leftist wacko kooks wtching.

The msm has pretty much become irrelevant.

I haven't really watched any msm for about 5 years, save watching FAUX News about a half dozen times in that period.

Most of the people I have regular contact with, are about the same regarding the msm.

Reasonable, sane, hard working, free thinking people don't watch that crap, any more than they read the National Enquirer.

693 rwmofo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:22:01am

re: #678 pingjockey

I think Chris Wallace has the guy Palin beat for gov on fox, or some other shill. Says the coverup is widespread. It was the asshat she beat. What cover up? What ethics investigation? Is this over the state trooper?

He's an Obama tool. His role was to go on and smear Palin.

694 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:22:02am

re: #690 pingjockey

Hey the Dark Lord Rove is on and they're calling Wash. state a toss up.
That'd be news. The westside, I-5 corridor tells the rest of us how it's gonna be.

Quick... deploy ACRON stormtroopers to WA to get their minds right.

695 JCM  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:22:06am

re: #686 akak

Read that it went off radar at exact moment of last cockpit communication.

Another piece. That happens with catastrophic failures, those are very rare.

Let's jump to the chase, some one blew it out of the sky to kill Troshev.

696 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:22:14am

re: #497 lifeofthemind

Morning, Someone rubbished the Welsh 11 hours ago but I stood up for you.

Thank you!
I especially like the reference to 'Men of Harlech' - and the use of the leek as a martial implement!
If you go on in that vein, you'll be a honorary Welsh person in no time!

697 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:22:32am

re: #659 flynmudd
What the hell ever happened to the so-called "RICH" Republicans and/or Conservatives? Why don't they take Soros and his pals to the cleaners? I have no doubt that they are just as wealthy and just as political savvy - so why aren't they doing it - or are they, and just being more quiet about it than Soros?

698 JCM  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:22:47am

re: #690 pingjockey

Hey the Dark Lord Rove is on and they're calling Wash. state a toss up.
That'd be news. The westside, I-5 corridor tells the rest of us how it's gonna be.

If we get a good turn out on the dryside that'll help.

699 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:22:58am

ACORN... PIMF

700 reine.de.tout  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:23:23am

re: #616 ayatollah ghilmeini

Few points then I am out of here:

. . . 2. Ike also shows the idiocy of building and locating human habitation in places likely to hit by such storms. Why in the world should we spend billions rebuilding Galveston? If people want to live near the water, make sure their homes have wheels. . .
.

People build and live in places likely to be hit by storms because that's were other people like to vacation. And when they vacation, they want: places to stay, places to eat, places to fill up the gas tank, etc etc.

701 Nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:23:26am

re: #691 reine.de.tout

Oh, yuck!
Yes, even in redneck Galverston, showers are available.
Even when electricity goes out, water is usually still running just fine. And if one has a gas water heater, one will even have hot and cold running water! Imagine that.

You don't expect these fancy pants northen reporters to take a cold shower do ya?

702 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:23:54am

re: #670 Geepers
Well I'm glad you're good but how come so tired?!

703 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:23:56am

re: #680 Sizzlack

Oh of course. Which is why I never bother her when I see her here, but I figure the one time she walked right past me (literally just the two of us) she would have at least looked up at me.

That does seem strange but, for all you knew, she could've had a busting headache and no sleep the night before.

704 Sizzlack  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:24:17am

re: #690 pingjockey

Hey the Dark Lord Rove is on and they're calling Wash. state a toss up.
That'd be news. The westside, I-5 corridor tells the rest of us how it's gonna be.

NJ has gotten very close too. If McCain could win either of those states then the election is over.

705 rwmofo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:24:29am

re: #692 republic

It's always a good idea to keep an eye on the other side. Kinda like Patton reading Rommel's book.

706 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:25:27am

re: #694 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
That wouldn't happen over here on the dry side. West side, oh yeah. We may have the governors race from hell too. The Sec. of State had the AG office go through the voter rolls, purged about 500k registrations. Dead folks, multiple registrations, not valid addresses. The donks had over 1000 registered at the King Co, admin building, as their primary address!

707 rwmofo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:25:36am

re: #689 Sizzlack

The funny thing is that no one has a clue who she is. I know because I am friendly with her daughter so it sticks out to me when I see the line of suburbans, but she was just standing out on the street and tons of people walked by and literally didn't even turn their heads. Not to say she of course doesn't need the SS, just kinda funny.

If I ever came in contact with Pelosi, I'd likely ask, "What's going on? Why do you look so surprised?"

708 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:25:37am

re: #682 jwb7605

Thank you. May I have another?
/

No.

709 Sizzlack  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:25:41am

re: #703 MandyManners

That does seem strange but, for all you knew, she could've had a busting headache and no sleep the night before.

Very possible. I thought it might have been because I have a crew cut (militaryish) and I figured it had something to do with that.

710 republic  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:25:53am

are: #693 rwmofo

He's an Obama tool. His role was to go on and smear Palin.


Sarah Palin fired someone who serves at the PLEASURE! of the Gov.

She had the pleasure of firing him for any reason, or no reason.

711 reine.de.tout  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:25:58am

re: #701 Nevergiveup

You don't expect these fancy pants northen reporters to take a cold shower do ya?

Heh.

When the weather is warm, my "cold" water is warm (whatever temp the pipes are).

712 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:26:13am

re: #686 akak

Read that it went off radar at exact moment of last cockpit communication.

I don't know anything about radar and the like but, it sounds like the thing blew up.

713 JCM  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:26:25am

re: #705 rwmofo

It's always a good idea to keep an eye on the other side. Kinda like Patton reading Rommel's book.

Know you enemy, know yourself, know victory.

Sun Tsu (paraphrased)

714 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:26:32am

re: #678 pingjockey
Hey ping - how about answering those questions for us? Seriously, Chris Wallace is a pretty good interviewer and I can't imagine he'd allow allegations like that to go by without questioning them!

715 rancher  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:26:33am

re: #649 JCM

I'd say some folks would like him dead, and wouldn't mind bring down a whole plane to do it.

Chechnyan terrorists? Naw, freedom fighters.

716 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:26:51am

re: #687 pingjockey

God help us, She is 3rd in line for president! Know who's fourth....The Grand Kleagle from W. Virginia.

That would be the first Klansman in power.

717 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:27:04am

re: #698 JCM

We're gonna do our best. Did you see Sam Reed actually went through and tossed over 500k invalid registrations?!

718 republic  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:27:30am

re: #705 rwmofo

It's always a good idea to keep an eye on the other side. Kinda like Patton reading Rommel's book.


Only a deaf and blind person wouldn't know much of what the "other side" has been up to.

719 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:27:48am

re: #689 Sizzlack

The funny thing is that no one has a clue who she is. I know because I am friendly with her daughter so it sticks out to me when I see the line of suburbans, but she was just standing out on the street and tons of people walked by and literally didn't even turn their heads. Not to say she of course doesn't need the SS, just kinda funny.

I bet those who would do her harm know who she is.

720 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:28:25am
721 SouthAmericanWay  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:28:44am

The editorial pages of the "major newspapers" this Sunday all seem to say that only the "dimwitted" would vote for "dimwitted" Sarah.

Which is why I'm about to make a T-shirt with the saying,

"I TOOPID: I VOTIN' FOR MAC N' SARAH!"

722 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:29:12am

re: #706 pingjockey

That wouldn't happen over here on the dry side. West side, oh yeah. We may have the governors race from hell too. The Sec. of State had the AG office go through the voter rolls, purged about 500k registrations. Dead folks, multiple registrations, not valid addresses. The donks had over 1000 registered at the King Co, admin building, as their primary address!

Photo ID. There is no other way. Make it a frigging Constitutional amendment. Free for the asking at every county courthouse.

This stuff is going to ruin us.

723 itellu3times  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:29:19am

ABC This Week, Senator Claire McCaskill (D) vs. Carly Fiorina - for the first time, Fiorina put on an excellent display. McCaskill was a disgusting sewage of personal attacks against Palin and McCain, refusing to answer questions, Fiorina was a sharp debater ... well, B+/A- anyway, but up until now every time I'd seen her, she'd been a disaster.

Anyway, McCaskill was such a cask of bilge, it almost didn't matter what she said. You go, democrats.

724 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:29:23am

re: #700 reine.de.tout

People build and live in places likely to be hit by storms because that's were other people like to vacation. And when they vacation, they want: places to stay, places to eat, places to fill up the gas tank, etc etc.

And, those who run the oil platforms need services.

725 JCM  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:29:26am

re: #715 rancher

Chechnyan terrorists? Naw, freedom fighters.

Sick f&$#, maybe they should have their noses shoved in the bodies of Beslan.

726 Sizzlack  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:30:11am

re: #719 MandyManners

I bet those who would do her harm know who she is.

Good point. I never look at it that way because as big an issue I might have with someone's politics I would never let it get passed nasty words, though there are definitely enough crazies out there that it is an issue, especially in NYC.

727 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:30:11am

re: #714 realwest
That's why I asked? I heard a kerfuffle about something, but that was it. Wallace let it slide. It was at the end where that asshat and the LT. Gov each had 30 seconds to talk.

728 reine.de.tout  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:30:14am

re: #724 MandyManners

And, those who run the oil platforms need services.

Yes, I should have thought of that one as the Roi works offshore!

729 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:30:33am

re: #709 Sizzlack

Very possible. I thought it might have been because I have a crew cut (militaryish) and I figured it had something to do with that.

Maybe if you pierce your eyebrows and nose she'll notice. Oh, and add some lavender streaks to your hair.

730 itellu3times  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:30:49am

re: #720 buzzsawmonkey

... and then he apologized?

731 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:31:12am

re: #720 buzzsawmonkey

BRAVO. I hope this acquaintance of yours--tacky enough to bring up politics at a religious service--felt at least a bit of shame.

732 JCM  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:31:24am

re: #717 pingjockey

We're gonna do our best. Did you see Sam Reed actually went through and tossed over 500k invalid registrations?!

Made a piss pot full of admin and process changes also. No more ballot 96s, a write in in Christine Rossi that got counted for Gregoire. No more unsecured "found" ballots etc....

733 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:31:37am
734 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:32:28am

re: #720 buzzsawmonkey

Guy comes up to me in shul yesterday. He came late; in the middle of davening, he walks up to me and says, "So, how's your love affair with Sarah Palin going? She's such a stupid fascist."

I told him that if he believed that, he didn't know what a fascist was, and he backed off the "fascist" remark. Then I told him that I'd talk to him after davening was over.

After the services, I walked up to him and said, "Look. I know that you are an educated man, who has to make intelligent decisions in the course of your business. I trust that you have similar understanding where I am concerned. I do you the courtesy of assuming that you have some reason for supporting Obama other than the racist reason of his skin tone; I don't pretend to know what it is, and I probably don't agree with you. But I think that you need to show me the same respect that I show you, and assume that as an educated and intelligent person I have reasons for NOT supporting Obama, but for supporting his opponent, and not come up with these silly emotional statements."

He starts trying to tell me that Obama is "intelligent," and that on that basis even if he doesn't have experience he'll choose good advisors. I point out to him that since his teens Obama has surrounded himself with Communists, radicals, terrorists, terror-supporters, anti-Americans, antisemites and people hostile to Israel, and there is no reason to assume that, "intelligent" or not, he will make any change should he win the election, since the election will merely confirm the validity of his past choices for him.

What did he say next?

735 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:32:29am
736 Sizzlack  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:33:13am

Anyone else notice that in the NE it feels like mid June? My weatherbug says it feels like 88 outside and its only 11:30am.

737 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:33:38am
738 Nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:33:58am

re: #731 goddessoftheclassroom

BRAVO. I hope this acquaintance of yours--tacky enough to bring up politics at a religious service--felt at least a bit of shame.

You must not be to familiar with Jewish liberals. They know no shame. They generally don't know the facts either.

739 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:34:06am

re: #732 JCM
Picture ID, no damn mail in ballots. I had to vote absentee for twenty years, get out, then a couple of years ago Douglas Co. went to all mail in. I liked going to the polling place to do my civic duty. Assholes!

740 Miss Trixie  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:34:13am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

re: #656 Sizzlack
GACK! You had a chance to educate Pelosi (I know, I know, it was a long shot anyway) and you didn't take it?!
Oh, I'd LOVE to run into certain politicians in the street- and some in a back alley! LOL!

Cheeky!

*smoochie* How are you today?

741 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:34:42am

re: #720 buzzsawmonkey
Hey Buzz! Uh

I point out to him that since his teens Obama has surrounded himself with Communists, radicals, terrorists, terror-supporters, anti-Americans, antisemites and people hostile to Israel, and there is no reason to assume that, "intelligent" or not, he will make any change should he win the election, since the election will merely confirm the validity of his past choices for him.


So what did he say in reply? (not going into the question of why he thinks Obama is particularly intelligent as opposed to cunning).

742 Spenser (with an S)  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:34:49am

re: #697 realwest

re: #659 flynmudd
What the hell ever happened to the so-called "RICH" Republicans and/or Conservatives? Why don't they take Soros and his pals to the cleaners? I have no doubt that they are just as wealthy and just as political savvy - so why aren't they doing it - or are they, and just being more quiet about it than Soros?

Real, I think of the richest of the rich, Buffett, Gates, Gate's partner, Soros, Larry Ellison, followed by a bunch of Arabs, I don't think there's a conservative activist in the top 20 (but I'd love to be proven wrong). The Amway guys are very active and conservative Christians but they're pikers ($2B/ ea. after building hospitals and setting up some conservative think-tanks).

743 JCM  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:34:55am

re: #734 MandyManners

What did he say next?

His head popped!

744 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:35:09am

re: #726 Sizzlack

Good point. I never look at it that way because as big an issue I might have with someone's politics I would never let it get passed nasty words, though there are definitely enough crazies out there that it is an issue, especially in NYC.

Why is she NYC that much?

745 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:35:23am

Britt Hume just gave a Mandy sized WHACK to Charlie Gibson. Heh.

746 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:35:50am

re: #728 reine.de.tout

Working on those platforms must be a very dangerous job.

747 Nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:35:59am

Just an aside, but why go on scary roller coaster when you can fly Aeraflot?

748 ContraJihadi  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:36:23am

Ah, the night in which all cows are black. That must have been quite a phenomenon.

749 Sizzlack  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:36:34am

re: #744 MandyManners

Visiting one set of grandkids.

750 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:36:43am
751 reine.de.tout  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:36:54am

re: #746 MandyManners

Working on those platforms must be a very dangerous job.

Not really anymore - was at one time.

752 Spenser (with an S)  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:37:26am

So, did everyone else receive a DVD promo copy of Obsession in their Sunday Press? Surprised the heck out of me, but I love it. What is the Clarion Fund?

753 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:37:29am

re: #745 pingjockey

Britt Hume just gave a Mandy sized WHACK to Charlie Gibson. Heh.

I just saw Biden have two women in headlocks.

754 Quintus_Arius  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:37:36am

re: #704 Sizzlack

NJ has gotten very close too. If McCain could win either of those states then the election is over.

Agree! Hope M/P spend money and visit both states.

Palin definitely helps in WA.

755 Nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:37:38am

re: #750 buzzsawmonkey

He didn't really have a reply for my assessment of Obama's friends and associates. After all, what could he say? He took refuge in the claim that he was "just funning"--and I said that given the anger and hostility I had encountered from other congregants on the grounds that I supported McCain, I was glad to hear that he was keeping his sense of humor.

I'm sure he believed me as much as I believed him.

Conservative or Orthodox shul?

756 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:37:59am

re: #749 Sizzlack

Visiting one set of grandkids.

I did not know that.

757 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:38:12am

re: #753 MandyManners
What? Is he on WWE?

758 nyc redneck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:38:33am

re: #720 buzzsawmonkey

you handled that very well.
i admire your patience.
your response is one that can actually get some people thinking.

759 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:38:48am

re: #740 {Miss Trixie} Hey there gorgeous - cheeky is why I am where I am today! Uh, no, wait, that's not what I meant AT ALL.
nevermind.
*smooch* back to you darling - how are you today? You and Lil Miss gonna terrorize the 'hood again today?!

760 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:38:56am

bbiab

761 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:39:13am

re: #757 pingjockey

What? Is he on WWE?

Fox.

762 JCM  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:39:26am

re: #739 pingjockey

Picture ID, no damn mail in ballots. I had to vote absentee for twenty years, get out, then a couple of years ago Douglas Co. went to all mail in. I liked going to the polling place to do my civic duty. Assholes!

Frankly I'd support a Federal mandate for 4 hours off on election day. Except for valid reasons, voters go to the polls.

Proof of citizenship to register, and valid residential address.

Photo ID to vote.

Account style rules to count ballots. Unused ballots accounted for, and total used and unused must be the number issued. Vote totals in each race must equal number of ballots etc.... it's not rocket science, just counting for pete's sake.

763 republic  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:39:34am

re: #750 buzzsawmonkey

He didn't really have a reply for my assessment of Obama's friends and associates. After all, what could he say? He took refuge in the claim that he was "just funning"--and I said that given the anger and hostility I had encountered from other congregants on the grounds that I supported McCain, I was glad to hear that he was keeping his sense of humor.

I'm sure he believed me as much as I believed him.

Are you in a church or synagogue?

There is a large number in the congregation that are supporting Obama?

Wow!

764 Nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:40:00am

re: #758 nyc redneck

you handled that very well.
i admire your patience.
your response is one that can actually get some people thinking.

That may be true, but my response of "get the fuck away from me you ignorant moron" is more satisfying?

765 Alouette  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:40:12am

re: #720 buzzsawmonkey

Guy comes up to me in shul yesterday. He came late; in the middle of davening, he walks up to me and says, "So, how's your love affair with Sarah Palin going? She's such a stupid fascist."

This would never happen in my shul. Debbie Schlussel davens there.

766 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:40:15am

re: #761 MandyManners
WWE=wrestling. I am watching Chris Wallace.

767 NC State of Mind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:40:29am

re: #750 buzzsawmonkey

He took refuge in the claim that he was "just funning"--and I said that given the anger and hostility I had encountered from other congregants on the grounds that I supported McCain,

To attack you like that during a religious service takes a lot of 'hubris.' A similar thing happened to me a few months ago and I simply asked why they voted for Obama (in the NC primary.) The girl said she liked him. I asked what about him she liked and she said "I just like him!" She finally admitted it was because he was an "African American." I didn't even attempt to go furthur.

768 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:40:58am

re: #742 Spenser (with an S) You mean (gasp!) that the Dem's Lefties are loaded? But, how can they possibly relate to the plight of the poor - other than keeping them on the government dole so they can get their votes with promises of higher government doles, I mean?

769 Sizzlack  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:41:24am

re: #756 MandyManners

I did not know that.

She has a few kids I believe but the one that lives here has two very little kids (one is a baby) so she clearly wants to see them while they are still tiny. Cute kids.

770 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:42:13am

re: #750 buzzsawmonkey

He didn't really have a reply for my assessment of Obama's friends and associates. After all, what could he say? He took refuge in the claim that he was "just funning"--and I said that given the anger and hostility I had encountered from other congregants on the grounds that I supported McCain, I was glad to hear that he was keeping his sense of humor.

I'm sure he believed me as much as I believed him.

In other words - when faced with facts - he didn't know what to say.

typical. the left have bad-faith/blind-faith adoration for their horribly flawed candidates.

771 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:42:20am

re: #744 MandyManners
Maybe she and Hillary are pals?!

772 lawhawk  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:42:36am

re: #763 republic

Don't be that surprised. Quite a few people are supporting Obama simply because he's the (D) to McCain's (R). Party line voters, who will vote accordingly, regardless who is actually on the ballot.

Ask anyone who supports Obama to name a single legislative achievement, a single issue that he's championed in the Senate (state or fed) and they'll stammer and cry racism or something else. They don't have any answers to that question simply because there aren't any.

773 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:42:36am
774 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:42:46am

Off to see the Baby Lizard's first soccer match. BBL.

775 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:43:34am

re: #762 JCM
Won't happen. It's too damn logical. Juan Williams throwing the experience crap about Palin. Hey Juan, what experience for prez does the community organizer have? Guess what dipshit? Palin has more EXECUTIVE experience than any 3 of the senators! Including McCain. McCain was a CO of an air wing but not the governor of a state. Very large difference.

776 Nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:43:35am

re: #771 realwest

Maybe she and Hillary are pals?!

I doubt Hiliary has any pals, just people who are of use to her.

777 jwb7605  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:43:36am

Sunday go to meeting time. Later!

778 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:43:56am
779 Nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:44:38am

re: #773 buzzsawmonkey

Putatively Orthodox, but in a very liberal Brooklyn neighborhood. Frankly, it's closer to what Conservative was back when I was a kid, with the addition of a mechitza.

I just asked because the more orthodox, generally the more conservative.

780 loveguru  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:44:47am

re: #645 pingjockey

they [British politicians] have a deep love with fanatic Muslims of Asia, which started to grow from 1857 onwards....

then came WW1, in which salafi-wahhabi-deobandis helped them to defeat ottoman empire. ever heard of fail mission of Lawrance of Arabia ? well British might not tell u about this.. but just crosscheck about John Philby, the deobandi Muslim convert to get an idea.

soon it turn against British, which will mark islamist-Nazi collation during WW2. BTW after WW2, son of John Philby, aka Kim philby will set path to release all Islamist neo Nazis...

there is a lot hidden at indian history of that era ... anyways, i have really no hope of something good coming out of Britain, i think American is playing stupid by waiting for Britain..... in-fact Israel, india, serbia or even Darfuri's might prove far more better and loyal allies then British ...

781 nyc redneck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:45:02am

re: #764 Nevergiveup

That may be true, but my response of "get the fuck away from me you ignorant moron" is more satisfying?

oh yeah, i know that approach very well, myself. lol
occasionally i try to discuss the issues quietly and and patiently.
sometimes i get so mad tho, i see stars.
like when i hollered at someone last wk,"you are a no good g.d communist'.

782 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:45:18am
783 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:45:44am

re: #758 nyc redneck
Hey, hi there! How are you today? I must say though that your repsonse assumes certain people will actually think about these things instead of doing what they always do: follow their peers and social friends and pull the same lever they always do.
In my experience it's easier to get Republicans to think and occasionally pull the Dem Left lever than vice-versa!

784 pittrader1988  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:45:57am
#720

I was speaking with my friend the other day who trends liberal, and is Jewish. He was a Clinton supporter, and is tepid in his support of Barack.

I asked, "Are you not concerned with Obama's stance on Israel?"
He said he views the Israelis as he does the rest of the Arabs. That they are crazy, and would annihilate every Arab around them if they could. They don't need US help.

He said he is Jewish, but he is not Israeli. I found that separation interesting.

785 NC State of Mind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:46:13am

McCain hits 50% in Rasmussen Poll for the first time

When Obama hit 50 after the convention, the media described it as a very important and telling milestone. I'm not holding my breath for similar analysis this time.

786 Nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:46:26am

re: #781 nyc redneck

oh yeah, i know that approach very well, myself. lol
occasionally i try to discuss the issues quietly and and patiently.
sometimes i get so mad tho, i see stars.
like when i hollered at someone last wk,"you are a no good g.d communist'.

Yeah, I shouted that at someone last week also, then I kissed my mom goodbye?

787 itellu3times  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:46:26am

re: #737 buzzsawmonkey

He claimed that he was just trying to engage in light banter. He was lying, of course--the obsessiveness with which the Obama supporters have to buttonhole you like the Ancient Mariner and launch into their diatribes shows that they left "light banter" in the dust several miles back.

I think, however, he was taken aback and put on the defensive by being told how badly he was behaving. I did it as politely, in as friendly a manner, as I know how; I like the guy, even though I think he needs to reassess his Kool-Aid intake.

Of course your reply was very reasoned and shows remarkable control on your part, and I will try to keep something like that handy for any similar run-ins I have with moonbats at very likely more secular situations.

788 itellu3times  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:47:01am

A lot of hate and fuming from dems on the ABC This Week panel.

789 Geepers  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:47:07am

realwest (#702),

Well I'm glad you're good but how come so tired?!

Scraping, sanding, fixing, painting.

No end in sight.

I need a vacation.

790 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:47:10am

re: #753 MandyManners
"I just saw Biden have two women in headlocks."
Where?

791 Miss Trixie  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:47:13am

re: #759 realwest

Hey there gorgeous - cheeky is why I am where I am today! Uh, no, wait, that's not what I meant AT ALL.
nevermind.
*smooch* back to you darling - how are you today? You and Lil Miss gonna terrorize the 'hood again today?!

Haha! You crack me up. :D

I'd love to go out terrorizing the 'hood today, however, Ike has deemed to spread a little of himself up here with pouring rain and winds. At least it's nice and warm though so I've all my doors and windows open to catch the breeze.

So I think I'll do some cooking today to pass the time - I'm jonesing for a nice garlicy tomato sauce simmered all day with teeny meatballs.

Loaded up with romano cheese, fresh basil and a zip of crushed chilies - just the ticket. :D

792 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:47:20am

re: #780 loveguru
I just hope Winstons' Grandkids wake up soon! I like those people. Married a girl from Wales for cfying out loud. We watch Rugby together! Watched an Irish Hurling match the other day. I was very confused!

793 Nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:47:35am

re: #784 pittrader1988

I was speaking with my friend the other day who trends liberal, and is Jewish. He was a Clinton supporter, and is tepid in his support of Barack.

I asked, "Are you not concerned with Obama's stance on Israel?"
He said he views the Israelis as he does the rest of the Arabs. That they are crazy, and would annihilate every Arab around them if they could. They don't need US help.

He said he is Jewish, but he is not Israeli. I found that separation interesting.

He sounds uniformed. Ask him if he has even been to Israel?

794 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:47:44am
795 yah  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:47:53am

re: #737 buzzsawmonkey

Bravo for you. There are some here that were liberals (maybe some now) who after thinking "it" through changed to moderates or Conservatives.
It takes awhile. Name calling rarely wins an argument. You have to get them to think. (not always so easy)

796 nyc redneck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:48:19am

re: #786 Nevergiveup

Yeah, I shouted that at someone last week also, then I kissed my mom goodbye?

it was my brother, actually.
lol
he called me a right wing radical. i just laughed.

797 Geepers  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:49:23am

itellu3times (#788),

A lot of hate and fuming from dems on the ABC This Week panel.

The finger pointing begins.

798 Nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:49:23am

re: #796 nyc redneck

it was my brother, actually.
lol
he called me a right wing radical. i just laughed.

Families can be so much fun sometimes.

799 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:49:50am

Oh my! just noticed, there are still comments down on the next thread. I figured it was dead!

800 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:50:03am

Morning you all.
Have you all seen the SNL parody of Sarah and the hildebeast? It's funny.

801 rancher  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:50:36am

re: #716 MandyManners

That would be the first Klansman in power.

Bet you meant national power.

The Klan reached its greatest power in Indiana, where its leader, David Stephenson, won control over the state's Republican Party and made one of his henchmen, Ed Jackson, governor.


Until:

Stephenson fell into ill repute after he brutally assaulted a 28 year-old female secretary. She took poison. His henchmen held her incommunicado in a hotel without medical attention, and she died. Stephenson was convicted of second degree murder and sentenced to life in prison. His former friend, Ed Jackson, the governor of Indiana, refused to pardon him, and, in retaliation, Stephenson made public information that sent a congressman, the mayor if Indianapolis and other officials to jail and that resulted in an indictment against Governor Jackson for bribery.


Raped and beaten before she took the poison.

802 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:50:41am

re: #800 newsjunkie_ky
The morning talking head shows have been playing the hell out of it.

803 NC State of Mind  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:51:25am

re: #780 loveguru


there is a lot hidden at indian history of that era ... anyways, i have really no hope of something good coming out of Britain, i think American is playing stupid by waiting for Britain..... in-fact Israel, india, serbia or even Darfuri's might prove far more better and loyal allies then British ...

I'm holding out hope that we will have ever increasing ties with the Indians. Shoot, they have been fighting this war against radical Islam a lot longer than we have. They have the good sense to understand, unlike Europeans (and Barry), that Islamic angst goes deeper than socio-economic conditions and therefore can be much more effective in helping defeat the enemy.

804 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:51:31am

re: #785 NC State of Mind
What's even nicer is that Mcain is ahead in 8 of 11 polls and two of the others report "tie".

805 Nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:51:34am

Well it's 10 minutes to noon here on the east coast. So by the time I get and make myself a scotch and maybe some pretzels it will be Noon. So I can start drinking and be ready for kick off. Be right back. Anyone want anything?

806 nyc redneck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:51:52am

re: #783 realwest

Hey, hi there! How are you today? I must say though that your repsonse assumes certain people will actually think about these things instead of doing what they always do: follow their peers and social friends and pull the same lever they always do.
In my experience it's easier to get Republicans to think and occasionally pull the Dem Left lever than vice-versa!

hey {real},
i tend to agree, but i've made a bit of progress by presenting some basic facts in a non-hostile way..
especially this week, talking to people and women in particular abt. sarah palin.

807 loveguru  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:52:03am

re: #792 pingjockey

well its not about people, but its about the politicians... Britain in itself is a political identity, like US, Russia, Israel or any other country.

americans, Indians, Israelis and many others do consider things in global context... but i think this is missing in many British.... really!

808 Truck Monkey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:52:04am

re: #664 jwb7605

Did she have a mattress on her back? Curb Service?

As a Hooker I believe she would starve I think.

/Channelling Yoda

809 rancher  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:52:17am

re: #720 buzzsawmonkey
Good answer, Jimmah was pretty smart.

810 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:52:30am

re: #785 NC State of Mind

McCain hits 50% in Rasmussen Poll for the first time

When Obama hit 50 after the convention, the media described it as a very important and telling milestone. I'm not holding my breath for similar analysis this time.

Interesting - ehre is only one poll (NBC all St J) which hs Obama ahead by one.
There are two ties and the rest all have McCain ahead.
Hm.

Still - its only polls, and that still means lots of work needs to be done, by volunteers up and down the country.
Especially in view of all the ACORN shenanigans, double registratiosn and so forth!

811 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:52:49am

re: #789 Geepers
Ah, tired from working too hard! But look at it this way Geeps - better that than tired from the anxiety of not having enough work!

812 Shug  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:53:12am

re: #805 Nevergiveup

Well it's 10 minutes to noon here on the east coast. So by the time I get and make myself a scotch and maybe some pretzels it will be Noon. So I can start drinking and be ready for kick off. Be right back. Anyone want anything?

I'll take a beer and a brat with Kraut

813 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:53:31am

Looks like Charles watched The Big Lebowski last night, just like I did!
"This isn't Vietnam, Smokey, this is bowling - there are rules!"
/Walter (based on John Milius, writer/director of Red Dawn)

814 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:53:34am

re: #808 Truck Monkey
That woman, touch I would not with a pole ten foot long.

815 kynna  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:53:39am

re: #800 newsjunkie_ky

Morning you all.
Have you all seen the SNL parody of Sarah and the hildebeast? It's funny.

I was just going to say that same thing. Someone above was offended by it, but I'm seeing a lot of conservative posters on other sites praising it.

Oh well. It's not like anyone watches SNL anyway. o_O

Good morning, Lizards. :D

816 nyc redneck  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:53:46am

re: #800 newsjunkie_ky

good morning newsjunkie_ky.
how are you?

817 republic  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:54:18am

re: #772 lawhawk

Don't be that surprised. Quite a few people are supporting Obama simply because he's the (D) to McCain's (R). Party line voters, who will vote accordingly, regardless who is actually on the ballot.

Ask anyone who supports Obama to name a single legislative achievement, a single issue that he's championed in the Senate (state or fed) and they'll stammer and cry racism or something else. They don't have any answers to that question simply because there aren't any.

I know quite a few D voters in my own family and extended family who can't stand Obama, and it isn't his skin color, it is his beliefs and lack of any record whatsoever as a "Senator".

I have one immediate family member, who is a leftist wacko kook, and who also is a moron, moron, meaning, one who votes for a particular candidate simply because of, gender, hair style, skin color, etc.

My mother in law, who has been a staunch D all her life, even through the Reagan years, hates Obama, and it isn't because he's black.

She is one of those, white older woman, whom Obama picked up Biden for, to try and garner that voting block.

818 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:54:41am

re: #807 loveguru
Close to the continent as they are and after 2 wars, I'd of thought the insular thinking had gone the way of the dodo.

819 rwmofo  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:55:04am

re: #785 NC State of Mind

McCain hits 50% in Rasmussen Poll for the first time

When Obama hit 50 after the convention, the media described it as a very important and telling milestone. I'm not holding my breath for similar analysis this time.

I don't ever catch the NBC/CBS/ABC Nightly Newscasts, but I'm betting that the McCain surge isn't being reported the way the poll results were trumpeted in the pre-Palin days. This just doesn't fit the template.

820 Nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:55:48am

re: #812 Shug

I'll take a beer and a brat with Kraut

I'll throw some on the barbi.

821 rancher  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:56:21am

re: #808 Truck Monkey

Yoda's in trouble. While leading a squad of Jehdi he managed to kill 50 prisoners.

Shoot them (Blam, blam, blam,) we must not!

822 opnion  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:56:31am

re: #805 Nevergiveup

Well it's 10 minutes to noon here on the east coast. So by the time I get and make myself a scotch and maybe some pretzels it will be Noon. So I can start drinking and be ready for kick off. Be right back. Anyone want anything?


I am a Bears fan. I wouid like a quarterback please.

823 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:56:32am

re: #802 pingjockey

Missed them all. Had a bad coughing night so slept in this morning. Just when I think I'm getting better, that frickin' cough comes back with a vengence.

What has their assessment been?

824 Shug  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:56:43am

re: #820 Nevergiveup

I'll throw some on the barbi.

if you throw my beer on the barbi it will take forever to cook my food

:)

825 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:56:46am

Y'all have a fine day. The young boss would like to use algores invention.

826 Shug  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:57:02am

re: #822 opnion

I am a Bears fan. I wouid like a quarterback please.

you can have Kitna

827 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:57:10am

re: #817 republic

I know quite a few D voters in my own family and extended family who can't stand Obama, and it isn't his skin color, it is his beliefs and lack of any record whatsoever as a "Senator".

I have one immediate family member, who is a leftist wacko kook, and who also is a moron, moron, meaning, one who votes for a particular candidate simply because of, gender, hair style, skin color, etc.

My mother in law, who has been a staunch D all her life, even through the Reagan years, hates Obama, and it isn't because he's black.

She is one of those, white older woman, whom Obama picked up Biden for, to try and garner that voting block.

Don't for one minute think that older women don't know sexism when they see it. BHO screwed that pooch!

828 Nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:57:33am

re: #822 opnion

I am a Bears fan. I wouid like a quarterback please.

I hear Joe Namath is free and sober.

829 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:57:40am

re: #800 newsjunkie_ky
Good morning to you! How are you doing today?

830 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:58:08am

re: #804 realwest

What's even nicer is that Mcain is ahead in 8 of 11 polls and two of the others report "tie".

That's great, because the polls are almost always skewed to the dems.

831 Nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:58:18am

re: #824 Shug

if you throw my beer on the barbi it will take forever to cook my food

:)

Well then be damn sure you don't piss on the fire!

832 J.S.  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:58:37am

re: #788 itellu3times

Sometimes I have the feeling that we're observing not only the meltdown of the Obama camp -- but a meltdown of the MSM as well...the MSM is reminding me of KOS posters in a snit...all thought, logic, good manners, thrown out the window...

833 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:58:50am

re: #830 newsjunkie_ky

That's great, because the polls are almost always skewed to the dems.

Are those polls of likely voters or registered voters?

834 shug  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:59:23am

ACORN will deliver an extra million votes for Obama

835 Jinx  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:59:26am

Just remember lizardoids to keep the sabbath day holy.

The talking points must be repeated as its own catechism:

Jesus Christ was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate was a governor.

So say the prophets of the Obamessiac religion. Now go say your 20 Hail Michelles and your sins will be forgiven.

/

836 shug  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:59:31am

but they will be fake votes

837 realwest  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:59:32am

re: #822 opnion
ROFL! How are ya doing opnion my friend?

838 Geepers  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 8:59:57am

realwest (#811),

Ah, tired from working too hard! But look at it this way Geeps - better that than tired from the anxiety of not having enough work!

True. Plus you get to (ultimately) see the results from your labor.

839 itellu3times  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 9:00:05am

re: #832 J.S.

Sometimes I have the feeling that we're observing not only the meltdown of the Obama camp -- but a meltdown of the MSM as well...the MSM is reminding me of KOS posters in a snit...all thought, logic, good manners, thrown out the window...

Too true.

They have no traction on Palin, they no nobody in the public is listening to a word they say, justified or not.

840 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 9:00:10am

re: #816 nyc redneck

good morning newsjunkie_ky.
how are you?

Feeling yucky today.

841 reine.de.tout  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 9:00:30am

re: #835 Jinx

Just remember lizardoids to keep the sabbath day holy.

The talking points must be repeated as its own catechism:

Jesus Christ was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate was a governor.

So say the prophets of the Obamessiac religion. Now go say your 20 Hail Michelles and your sins will be forgiven.

/

Or, as my daughter said when she was young, "Hell! Michelle . . ."

842 Nevergiveup  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 9:00:43am

re: #833 MandyManners

Are those polls of likely voters or registered voters?

Seeing how in this great country of the free and the brave barely 50% can see fit to get their fat asses to the polls. Pitiful ain't it?

843 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 9:01:33am

re: #792 pingjockey

Pencil in those dates - for your wife, obviously :-)))

11-08: Wales v South africa
11-14: Wales v Canada
11-22: Wales v New Zealand
11-29: Wales v Australia

Thats the Rugby Autumn Internationals, and we're taking on the World Champions, the inofficial World Champions, and the third best team in the World. Canada is not in that class, but they come every year, and a lot of their players have Welsh roots.

844 loveguru  Sun, Sep 14, 2008 9:01:38am

re: #803 NC State of Mind

Frankly speaking, we all have fought this war in our past...... in one way or another its really documented well... and in-fact all [developed]cultures around the globe share this, regardless of being in east or west !

we are in the same old war, a war between God of Love and God of Justice .....
Politicians will push boundaries towards God