The rest of America needs to wake up.

The MSM thinks we're stupid.

Next they will draw a mustache on Palin and devil horns on McCain for the cover of Time Mag.

Wow, this is a slow night.

What?!? She wasn't vetted?!?

Blowback is a bitch.

No surprise there...

Maybe the MSM is finally getting the message? (yeah...one can only hope)

The Obamanator has been very quiet with TV spots this weekend...

Under the Bus, Madame Photoshoppe

Of course, after McCain wins in November we can resume rounding up all members of the resistance and placing them in detention centers in Nebraska.

/

re: #5 BignJames

She probably was, liberal, photographer, okay she's good.

/how did that knife get in my back?

It's about time some in the media woke up. If you're going to talk the "objective" talk, then you better walk the walk. Because those that don't are going to be hurting after this election- the American people and their awakening is well under way, and alienating your customers is a sure way to go out of business.

Anyone see the photoshop she did where she added shark teeth to McCain?

/disgusting.

I wonder what her raise will be? Maybe a little promotion too.

Actions speak louder than words.

We have met the enemy and is the media.

(Apologizes to Walt Kelly)

Next thing you know, they'll be Photoshopping Palin's head on bikini photos!

Oh wait...

Shocked! Shocked I tell you!
Can you say " Plausible Deniability? "

I knew you could.

What strikes me as funny is that she thinks I won't notice that she is using an "Alfred Hitchcock" camera angle and lighting. Do I strike you as someone so stupid? Subtle, sly and clever you are not.

It will be intersting to see on what magazine she shows up next. Whichever mag it is will have basically run up the Lib flag and thrown out any pretense of being a true news magazine.

My, my, he didn't mince words did he. Good for him!

re: #15 zombie

Next thing you know, they'll be Photoshopping Palin's head on bikini photos!

Oh wait...

Or McCain's head on bikini photos.

FReep is down. FReepers are having withdrawal convulsions. Maybe a little open registration?

I think some in the media realized the jig was up when US Weekly was given an earful over their treatment of Sarah Palin.

"Wait- you mean you people don't have to buy our product? And you can get by without us? Oh sh*t!"

Why they just go with what they really think?

Doctored photographs = Bad
Biased reporting = Okay

re: #24 HelloDare

Doctored photographs = Bad
Biased reporting = Okay

Doctored photographs = Bad but only if you get caught.

re: #3 Lively

Next they will draw a mustache on Palin and devil horns on McCain for the cover of Time Mag.

I dunno. Her first appearance there seems pretty attractive.

Watch the spin on this one.

They can't deny the story. They can't cover that she hates McCain, tricked him into taking the bottom-lit photo, and photoshopped the ones on her website.

So they'll do the next best thing.

But by focusing on those things, they will convince many people that she did her job correctly for the one shot they used on the cover.

But remember her quote:

She delivered the image the magazine asked for—a shot that makes the Republican presidential nominee look heroic. ...“I left his eyes red and his skin looking bad,” she says.

What's better is the NY Post has picked this up...

What these wackos don't realize is that everytime they act up, thousands of Americans become McCain supporters.

Good gawd, a liberal acting in a childish fashion? Say it ain't true! They're usually such paragons of maturity, those KosKiddie types.

re: #25 Alouette

Doctored photographs = Bad but only if you get caught.

And biased reporting is okay even if you do get caught

re: #26 JustMyView
re: #3 Lively

Next they will draw a mustache on Palin and devil horns on McCain for the cover of Time Mag.

I dunno. Her first appearance there seems pretty attractive.

PIMF= Forgot link on previous post.

re: #2 Lively

The MSM thinks we're stupid.

And I sent the asshats at the Atlantic a letter informing them that they have lost credibility.

re: #31 JustMyView

That still wasn't a link, just boldfaced text.

I dusted off the 'ol Photoshop:

Shieldmatron of Rohan.

re: #31 JustMyView

re: #3 Lively

Sheeesh! Here's how Palin looked in her first appearance on Time's cover.

re: #28 Bubbaman

What's better is the NY Post has picked this up...

What these wackos don't realize is that everytime they act up, thousands of Americans become McCain supporters.

I think the reason behind it is, for the most part, Americans are fair minded people. When we see unfair treatment, we rally behind the underdog.

re: #31 JustMyView

Correction: it's a link with no destination.

re: #19 Nancy

My, my, he didn't mince words did he. Good for him!

Yeah, but I don't think it's a credible denial

She was asked to come up with something for the magazine by the editors, and they are culpable for their actions just as surely the photographer is. He's just pissed that she exposed her bias in such an overt manner.

Still, if the Atlantic was annoyed with her photograph, they wouldn't have run it.

It makes only one group of people look bad - everyone involved in the Atlantic, from the photographer on up to the editors who approved it and the cover.

re: #9 Racer X

Or maybe Alaska has some remote island they aren't using. Like the one just offshore of Russian. Perhaps they will defect.

re: #30 victor_yugo

And biased reporting is okay even if you do get caught

You know they don't care if they get caught (rathergate).

re: #40 lawhawk

And his bias too

Okay, Jeffrey. But what about the fact that The Atlantic's cover story on McCain is captioned "Why War Is His Answer" (boo! evil republican warmonger!), while the cover for the magazine's puff piece by Andrew Sullivan on The One was captioned "Why Obama Matters"?

Well, time for my head to hit the pillow. Good night all. I will see you anon.

re: #35 JustMyView

Never mind the insulting title, huh?

Jill Greenberg is the woman who intentionally makes children cry, takes pictures of them and calls it art.

This is misdirection. They are condemning her photoshops on her website, and condemning the bottom-lit photo.

Making it seem she just misbehaved off-duty or for photos they didn't use. Note this quote: T

he Atlantic opted not to use the distorted McCain shot on its cover, selecting instead a more straightforward portrait. 'We stand by the picture we are running on our cover," said Atlantic editor James Bennet. 'We feel it's a respectful portrait. We hope we'll be judged by that picture.'

They're condemning one sin hoping that it will cover the other worse one. But she admits in the regular photo she left his eyes red and skin looking bad.

Waffles 'n Plugs
or
Maverick and Jugs

Easy choice.

This is very ugly.

She basically ambushed, in the most juveile fashion imaginable, a decent, trusting, and honorable man.

And Charles Gibson disgusts me the more I think about it.

Good natured Sarah Palin, calling him 'Charlie' rein the freindliest manner imaginable, again trsutiong him to be decent and professional.

And he betrays his profession to try and kick her in the teeth.

Thes people have no decency.

We are in for a long and nasty cultural war.

re: #44 Occasional Reader

Indeed the fact that Sullivan writes puffery for them tells me that the editors knew perfectly well what Jill was planning. LIARS all

Shouldn't somebody on McCain's team insist that all formal photos be approved before publication? Or at least there during the session to determine if there's monkey business going on?

I am pretty sure that there are some photographers who are not flat-out raving deranged. The mag ought to try to hire one for a change.

re: #47 HelloDare

Jill Greenberg is the woman who intentionally makes children cry, takes pictures of them and calls it art.

Why are all those children topless? Is she some sort of pervert?

O/T - The History Channel's "102 Minutes that Changed the World" is one powerful documentary.

This should be shown every Sept 11 in every classroom throughout the country. I know that won't happen, however, in world controlled by the uber-Marxist NEA.

re: #50 Racer X

Stop with the objectifying!

re: #9 Racer X

Of course, after McCain wins in November we can resume rounding up all members of the resistance and placing them in detention centers in Nebraska.

/

Sorry, we don't want them here.

Perhaps they could print The Tale of The Scorpion on the back of their business cards from now on.

re: #54 rawmuse

I am pretty sure that there are some photographers who are not flat-out raving deranged. The mag ought to try to hire one for a change.

O/T,

Just watched a preview for next season's 24. They were liberally using Clint Mansell's requiem for a dream for the music.

re: #46 Sharmuta

Never mind the insulting title, huh?

It's hardly a secret that Palin has spent many hours being briefed by various members of McCain's campaign staff, foreign policy experts, and others since she was selected.

The harsh public glare of this willfully deranged act will not be accepted quietly by the American people.

As I type this post, CNN is attempting another smear of Gov Palin over the troopergate thing.

For the first time and after watching US presidential politics for 50 years+ I believe the back room handlers and zealots have lost it, aided and encouraged if not led to these excesses by the MSM.

What is needed is a calm, senior non-political national voice who will denounce this type of anti-democratic incitement before some lunatic acts on the hatred that is in the ascendancy.

re: #47 HelloDare

Jill Greenberg is the woman who intentionally makes children cry, takes pictures of them and calls it art.

That was Jill Greenberg?

I remember seeing those photos awhile back and thought what an awful person it would take to taunt children 'til they cried, just for a photo. Disgusting behavior.

re: #58 Sharmuta

Stop with the objectifying!

Lots of people have them, some are more noticeable. In fact I barely noticed until I saw an old picture of Joe.

re: #49 Silhouette

Of course, compare and contrast to every photo seemingly taken of Obama, that shows him with a halo.

Old and ugly.

The new hotness.

/seems like a MIB skit...

re: #62 JustMyView

It's hardly a secret that Palin has spent many hours being briefed by various members of McCain's campaign staff, foreign policy experts, and others since she was selected.

So that makes it okay to paint her as ignorant and that she needs an education, huh?

re: #46 Sharmuta

Never mind the insulting title, huh?

Well, they did have one just like that for Obama.

/Oh, no they didn't.

re: #63 Colin Nelson

I think it's too late, the "Obama or ELSE" T-shirts roaming around NYC say it all for me

I'd call her a scumbag, but that would be an insult to bags filled with scum.

I'm Shocked! Shocked I tell you!

/

re: #39 buzzsawmonkey

Interview with the Palin bikini photoshopper.

Thanks for that. Bored, left-wing Web mistress. Predictable.

Doctored photos and forgeries OK if done to people detested by the media. Again, the media are playing a dangerous game here. Dangerous to themselves and dangerous to the nation. If Obama himself gets tied to this kind of fraud he will be in serious trouble and all will backfire on the media.

re: #69 SpartanWoman

I think it's too late, the "Obama or ELSE" T-shirts roaming around NYC say it all for me

Tell them... ELSE.

I was appalled

I'll bet.

/*snicker*

re: #39 buzzsawmonkey

Interview with the Palin bikini photoshopper.

Naomi, you suck!

re: #47 HelloDare

Jill Greenberg is the woman who intentionally makes children cry, takes pictures of them and calls it art.

What the...

re: #61 astronmr20

O/T,

Just watched a preview for next season's 24. They were liberally using Clint Mansell's requiem for a dream for the music.

Well, it's 24.

re: #62 JustMyView

It's hardly a secret that Palin has spent many hours being briefed by various members of McCain's campaign staff, foreign policy experts, and others since she was selected.

It's hardly a secret that they all get briefed by various experts and advisors. If they didn't, they would be foolish.

re: #51 Maine's Michael

Good natured Sarah Palin, calling him 'Charlie' rein the freindliest manner imaginable, again trsutiong him to be decent and professional.

She called him "asshole" but pronounced it "Charlie."

Unfortunately, what they are doing to Palin and McCain works. Most people are not like us. They get their news from the usual suspects on television and then go about their business. I really don't think McCain can be hurt very much. He's a square peg in a square hole. But Palin is vulnerable because of sexism. She's also vulnerable because of xenophobia. She's sort of a foreigner. This invites the opposition to play on stereotypes. Still, none of this would work if the media were not complicit in the agenda-driven smear campaign.

Each smear they can carry onto the network airtime is like a paper cut against Palin. There will be just some people who believe it. If it were one of two it would not matter very much. But 6 or 7 or 8 or 10 smears later, she is reduced to a dirty word and her polls will suffer. That's probably already happening. Yes, the GOP is a little ahead in the polls today, but they would probably be a lot more ahead if the coverage were evenhanded. You may notice at RCP that MCCain has taken a big lead in the Electoral College count, but only a small lead in the National Average...

[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

I understand that sort of state polling that goes into the Electoral College is nearly a week behind the National Average polling. Perhaps this indicates the actual advantage is waning quickly due to the heavy smear campaign.

We here can hardly believe the smear campaign is working because we see right through it. But I think it is. And I think the backlash, though real, is not quite as significant as we'd like to believe.

Nothing would please me more than to be proved wrong.

re: #68 Tigger2005

Well, they did have one just like that for Obama.

/Oh, no they didn't.

But the Obama has never had to be briefed by anyone anywhere at anytime. Nor Biden. They were born knowing all and have no advisors.

He only took three days to come up to speed on the Georgia -Russia thing because he was busy healing the earth and receding the ocean.

re: #74 taxfreekiller

Its no secret that Just My View is a full raging commie, having been msm'd life long and lusting for more commie lies to hug at night alone.

I disagree. My perception of JMV is that she wants to believe in Barry, but her brain keeps trying to override. Its why she keeps reading the comments here.

re: #75 Red Cloud

Tell them... ELSE.

Sadly they were all bigger than me and sometimes in groups. Me thinks people on the street would side with them

re: #78 Josephine

What the...

She taunted them by offerenig them candy or something, then took it away for the reactions.

Leave it me to post on a thread, only for a new thread to pop up.
For your enjoyment , some neomythology.

The pitiful Zero slew the Hildabeast and dreamed he had rendered the genderasp harmless. He returned to his minions to celebrate his supposed triumph. "This victory is the victory we have been waiting for" he proclaimed.

No sooner had their cheers died did they turn to behold the SarahHydra. At the behest of the McC U.S. she was called to battle the minions of ignorance. In their fury, the minions lashed out blindly, attacking the many headed menace, only to find that each time they severed one head, two would grow in its place. In his fear, the Zero removed his gloves (for the fifth time) and attempted to enjoin in battle but the SarahHydra proved elusive. "I will call on the Mediasaurus to battle in my place" Zero thought , but his hopes were in vain. Those who were loathe to support the McC U.S. were rallied and the tide of battle was reversed. The Mediasaurus retreated in disgrace and confusion, their strengthth and power forever diminished.

Return to Illinoisus, Zero, and get your shinebox.

re: #64 reine.de.tout

That was Jill Greenberg?

I remember seeing those photos awhile back and thought what an awful person it would take to taunt children 'til they cried, just for a photo. Disgusting behavior.

Worse.

Psychotic.

If that's what she finds aesthetically pleasing, she needs to be in a padded cell somewhere.

CAUTION!

/Obama tongue bath Xing, next 300 comments

re: #69 SpartanWoman

I think it's too late, the "Obama or ELSE" T-shirts roaming around NYC say it all for me

Or else what, punks?

Somehow I doubt Obama fans have it in them to strap on a suicide vest, much less undertake an armed revolution.

re: #55 Sharmuta

Why are all those children topless? Is she some sort of pervert?

Clothing might distract the viewer from the child's distress and draw the eye away from the beauty of it all.

/

Expect even more unhinged madness as Barry's polls slide, this is going to be a fun election folks. Hold on to your hats.

/on the other hand I do kind of like the bottom lit photo a little bit... that's how I want Putin picturing McCain.

re: #89 Killian Bundy

Seen your bud Sal today?

What's that old line about laying down with dogs?

re: #88 victor_yugo

Worse.

Psychotic.

If that's what she finds aesthetically pleasing, she needs to be in a padded cell somewhere.

We don't use padded cells, not very hygenic. We go with cinder block.

re: #86 reine.de.tout

She taunted them by offerenig them candy or something, then took it away for the reactions.

What a nasty piece of work.

re: #80 reine.de.tout

It's hardly a secret that they all get briefed by various experts and advisors. If they didn't, they would be foolish.

True, but, in her case, they are starting from a little further back.

I think it is safe to assume her career is ruined.

re: #81 Alouette

She called him "asshole" but pronounced it "Charlie."

LOL. I like the way you think . . .

re: #92 Thanos

Expect even more unhinged madness as Barry's polls slide, this is going to be a fun election folks. Hold on to your hats.

/on the other hand I do kind of like the bottom lit photo a little bit... that's how I want Putin picturing McCain.

Expect things to get really, really nasty as Obama continues to slide. McCain picked exactly the right PERSON to weather this storm.

re: #98 WarBicycle

I think it is safe to assume her career is ruined.

Probably not, she'll be a celeb in NYC and get lots of gigs

re: #91 Josephine

Clothing might distract the viewer from the child's distress and draw the eye away from the beauty of it all.

/

It makes me wish I could do something tangible, perhaps physical, to show my appreciation of this beauty...

re: #91 Josephine

Clothing might distract the viewer from the child's distress and draw the eye away from the beauty of it all.

/

And another thing about this Greenburg nutcase...

re: #89 Killian Bundy

CAUTION!

/Obama tongue bath Xing, next 300 comments

No, just Obamacat!

Betrayed, eh?

*Yawn*

re: #98 WarBicycle

I think it is safe to assume her career is ruined.

Oh, no. She's a shoo-in at the New York Times.

re: #82 Luigi

When you have a poll being conducted by the Minneapolis Star Tribune showing 0bama losing a 12 point lead, and the state is even- from the Star Tribune- known for jacked polling and favoring liberals in their sample- then you have to know that McCain is doing well. Minnesota hasn't been red since Nixon.

"This is not the issue, of course; the issue is that she betrayed this magazine, and disgraced her profession."

No, the issue is you played footsie with deranged infrahuman monsters, and are reaping the whirlwind. And to think I used to subscribe to what I considered the finest opinion magazine on the newsstand.

Michael Kelley, and all the good ones before him are ashamed and appalled at what you've become.

Begone vile filth!

re: #97 JustMyView

True, but, in her case, they are starting from a little further back.

And you positive that is correct . . . how?

re: #67 Sharmuta

So that makes it okay to paint her as ignorant and that she needs an education, huh?

The cover doesn't say anything about her being ignorant, but I think if you are spending every available moment learning things you didn't know before, it's safe to say that's what's going on is education--and thank goodness for it. Of course, since neither of us has read the article, we don't really know what they had to say about her. I only pointed out the cover because lively said that Palin would probably have horns when she first appeared on the cover of TIME.

re: #62 JustMyView

It's hardly a secret that Palin has spent many hours being briefed by various members of McCain's campaign staff, foreign policy experts, and others since she was selected.

Yeah, it's amazing how Obama was just born knowing all this stuff.

Jill Greenberg answers the critics who claim she abuses toddlers in the name of art

Your images have certainly caused an uproar. What do you say to people who call you a child abuser?
I think they're insane. I know the comment you're talking about. I don't know what the guy's personal problems are. I don't think he's got kids. I have a two-and-a-half-year-old daughter, and she cries for no reason, a hundred times a day. It's normal. Maybe getting kids to cry isn't the nicest thing to do, but I'm not causing anyone permanent psychological damage.

How many kids did you shoot altogether?
Around 35. Some were the children of friends, plus my own daughter; others came from the Ford or Jet Set model agencies. Kid models aren't very expensive—not as expensive as monkeys, for example.

How did you get the kids to cry?
Mostly we did it by giving them something, a lollypop, and then taking it away. Some would just cry for no reason—my daughter did that; she didn't like standing on the apple box I used for a platform because it was a little wobbly. Some just wouldn't cry at all. For all the kids I worked really fast. We would book 12 or so for one day, and see who we could make cry. At the end of the day I was not in a good mood. I don't like making little kids cry.

The lighting is very dramatic. How did you accomplish that?
It's the same lighting I used for my portraits of monkeys, and I've been using it for some recent magazine cover portraits. It's really flattering frontal light, so the subject doesn't have to have any actual shine on his or her skin to appear shiny. None of the kids had any makeup on. And also I work on that shiny quality in postproduction.

How did you come up with the idea for the project?
I saw this little girl who'd come to a party with her mom, and she was beautiful, so I thought it might be interesting to photograph her. When they came to my studio, the mother brought along her toddler son, and I decided to shoot him too. We took off his shirt because it was dirty. He started crying on his own, and I shot that, and when I got the contact sheets back I thought, "This could go with a caption, 'Four More Years,'" like he was appalled at George Bush's reelection. The images have a real power—they immediately get under your skin. The emotion you see is just so compelling, yet they're beautiful at the same time. That was one of the things that interested me about the project—the strength and beauty of the images as images. I also thought they made a kind of political statement about the current state of anxiety a lot of people are in about the future of the country. Sometimes I just feel like crying about the way things are going.

re: #101 SpartanWoman

Probably not, she'll be a celeb in NYC and get lots of gigs

A half-page ad in the Post, with a screenshot of the Google results, will take care of that. Just add the quote from #47 above:

Jill Greenberg is the woman who intentionally makes children cry, takes pictures of them and calls it art.

A nice little insult at McCain thrown in at the end by Goldberg.

Every so often, journalists become deranged at the sight of certain candidates, and lose their bearings. Why, this has even happened in the case of John McCain once or twice. What I find truly astonishing is the blithe way in which she has tried to hurt this magazine.

He can understand hating McCain, but he is most upset, not at attacking McCain or at a member of the press intentionally trying to manipulate a US Presidential election, albeit rather impotently, but that it hurts the magazine.

At least he has his priorities straight.

re: #96 Josephine

I guess I would be asking what kind of parent would subject their child to be used like that in the name of "art?"

re: #72 zombie

Thanks for that. Bored, left-wing Web mistress. Predictable.

I mean, really, what is the big accomplishment of photoshopping somebody's head on to somebody else's body? It takes less than a minute, once you find the photos you want to use.

Now she can go back to her former job of drawing a d**k and b*lls on advertisements in the subway.

The gloaming. September 14, 2008, Pacific time zone, San Gabriel Mountains, California. (Towercam.)

These views will continue after November.

re: #93 BignJames

Seen your bud Sal today?

Nope.

13) Staring at a Screen Darkly
The advent of the Internet recombines the abolition of space-time barriers to communication with the constant and instant availability of (potentially) practically all textual knowledge, as computer aided design and computer assisted manufacture threaten to leave the proletariat with little beyond bourgeois leisure and a subsistence stipend. The underclass will be known not as the unwashed, but as the unwired. With every computer terminal a samizdat, governments (and religions) will progressively lose their ability to tell the big lies and make them stick (see Zapatista). Guerilla semioticians will increasingly 'poach' the icons and symbols of governmental, religious and corporate institutions and imbue them with different and frequently subversive meanings (The Practice of Everyday Life, Michel de Certeau, 1984). Authority will issue not from age, race, gender or status, but from the internal consistency, logical cogency, linguistic clarity and external coherence of one's positions. Spoken and written language forms will continue vanishing as quickly as endangered species, as informational selection takes its Darwinian toll. The hegemony of employment over location will melt away as more and more jobs can be performed from anywhere with power and a telephone line. Global democracy will supersede multiple national sovereignties as humanity's attachments to borders and boundaries will shrink along with their relevance to the lives of an increasingly individually sovereign citizenry (as Francis Fukuyama foresaw in The End Of History, 1992). The policy debates now occurring within electronic 'town meetings' will be settled by cyber-votes. The Human Genome Project will allow human beings to genetically know themselves (Socrates and Hippocrates would be pleased) and to re-engineer their codes to remove textual errors (inherited defects). If they like the result, genocopies (clones) will be possible, and there is already talk of exploiting the shared binary codes of computer language and the double helix to create DNA computers. The meme will then have traveled full circle, finding its way back to the gene. In the coming millennium, homo sapiens will be both weavers of and woven by, for better or for worse, the informational warp and communicational weft of a co-evolutionary New Web Order.

/he only comes out for evolution threads

re: #114 HelloDare

If this woman photographed my grandkids, her teeth would look like John McCain's, the ones she had left.

re: #116 Silhouette

A nice little insult at McCain thrown in at the end by Goldberg.

He can understand hating McCain, but he is most upset, not at attacking McCain or at a member of the press intentionally trying to manipulate a US Presidential election, albeit rather impotently, but that it hurts the magazine.

At least he has his priorities straight.

Yes, just like imams rebuking terrorists because they damage the image of Islam.

Her website address is "manipulator.com"

Calling Sigmund Freud...

re: #59 Rocko

Sorry, we don't want them here.

How about tossing them, along with the molesters, on one of the uninhabited Aleutian Islands? Nice and secure, jobs and tax money for Alaska, chew toys for the diddlers, and the occasional volcanic eruption to spice things up. What's not to like?

re: #98 WarBicycle

I think it is safe to assume her career is ruined.

I doubt it. In fact, I'm sure she's being privately applauded for this by her peers, and by most who might commission her work.

I thought everyone hated Bush because he was, you know, all inarticulate, and a cowboy, and dumb, but also an evil genius. I thought that was where BDS came from. But now we have PDS and McDS, and they appear to be even more virulent. Thank goodness the majority of the people seem to be immune.

re: #112 JustMyView

The cover doesn't say anything about her being ignorant

I think it's you who is ignorant.

re: #78 Josephine

What the...

... is wrong with that ...

re: #115 victor_yugo

A half-page ad in the Post, with a screenshot of the Google results, will take care of that. Just add the quote from #47 above:

Jill Greenberg is the woman who intentionally makes children cry, takes pictures of them and calls it art.

You're too optimistic. NYT is full of sterile cuckoos lie Maureen Dowd who probably begrudge the existence of children at all. I picture her as the Vulgarian Countess in Chitty-Chitty- Bang Bang

re: #47 HelloDare

Jill Greenberg is the woman who intentionally makes children cry, takes pictures of them and calls it art.

a sick woman

re: #94 oh_dude

What's that old line about laying down with dogs?

You wake up as a registered Democrat?

OT--This is for TFK--the answer to your question about the song "smoke, smoke, smoke" that cigarette was by Phil Harris, either late 1940's or early fifties--I have the record.

re: #122 Killian Bundy

/he only comes out for evolution threads

And after the sun goes down. I noticed that he only posts after the sun is down and usually only on the dead threads.

/hhmmm, Think I am onto something here.

re: #127 Cartman

I doubt it. In fact, I'm sure she's being privately applauded for this by her peers, and by most who might commission her work.

Including the editor at the Atlantic who is toying with being sorry and outraged and is probably laughing his asshat off

re: #117 Nancy

I guess I would be asking what kind of parent would subject their child to be used like that in the name of "art?"

I'm shaking my head.

Who is that nuts? And that mean?

Who would put it on a wall?

Imagine them sending it out with their "seasonal celebration" card or yearly family newsletter.

Who would they leave it to in their will? Would that be the long-awaited time when the child is finally able to destroy it and put that childhood demon to rest?

re: #98 WarBicycle

I think it is safe to assume her career is ruined.

Never. For every one person who's annoyed by her childish idiocy, there's another person somewhere on the East Coast who has a good laugh and talks about what a hero she is over their latte.

re: #121 Ojoe

The gloaming. September 14, 2008, Pacific time zone, San Gabriel Mountains, California. (Towercam.)

These views will continue after November.

..and still no sun spots. We are in for a very cold several decades...

re: #69 SpartanWoman

I think it's too late, the "Obama or ELSE" T-shirts roaming around NYC say it all for me

Seriously?!

re: #131 SpartanWoman

You're too optimistic. NYT is full of sterile cuckoos lie Maureen Dowd who probably begrudge the existence of children at all. I picture her as the Vulgarian Countess in Chitty-Chitty- Bang Bang

Screw them. That's why I said "the Post" and not "the Times".

Goldberg's not "appalled" at all. They're only disappointed that this lady has outed them for what The Atlantic has become: a partisan pamphlet, undoing 150 years of great literary achievements and mostly balanced political commentary.

This was monstrous. This scum Greenberg deliberately tried to make a man look bad complexionwise who survived 4 bouts of melanoma ...the deadliest form of skin cancer. And she admitted it.

Unbelievably sick.

re: #107 Sharmuta

Michigan has been solid blue for a long time as well and it's now "neutral" grey--a toss up.

McCain has lost NO solid reds that he started with and has gained some that were leaning.

But Obama is losing some that have been solid blue that are now only leaning blue and others that have gone to neutral and a couple that are even now leaning red.

He is in trouble. He isn't holding on to his solid blue states much less picking up the weaker blues or neutrals.

re: #136 BlueCanuck

And after the sun goes down. I noticed that he only posts after the sun is down and usually only on the dead threads.

/hhmmm, Think I am onto something here.

/Bomb 20

re: #141 PSGInfinity

Seriously?!

Very seriously. All bright with the colors of Pan-African unity

Found this out there.

When PDNPulse asked Greenberg if she had any reservations about accepting the photography assignment – which originally was to create a shot that made McCain look heroic – given her political leanings, she pleaded caveat emptor, buyer beware.

"I didn't," she said. "It's definitely exciting to shoot someone who is in the limelight like that. I am pretty hard-core Democrat. Some of my artwork has been pretty anti-Bush, so maybe it was somewhat irresponsible for (the Atlantic) to hire me."

Greenberg also told PDNPulse that she's considered altering the photo to replace McCain's mouth with bloody shark teeth and posting the image on a billboard, depicting the candidate as a bloodthirsty warmonger.

re: #125 Sparkizzy

Her website address is "manipulator.com"

Calling Sigmund Freud... Thorazine 1000mg

re: #122 Killian Bundy

Where did that come from?

re: #114 HelloDare

She is a freaking loon. And a sadistic, insensitive mother.

Did anyone see the photoshop she did showing McCain looking like a zombie freak with gore on his fangs?

I would think that Atlantic would have some recourse here...
This is more than just a freshman stunt on her part.

re: #136 BlueCanuck

Thank you for making me laugh.

Now I can calm down (after reading about sharia in England and a nasty photographer who demeans patriots and makes babies cry) and go to bed.

Good night, folks.

I like the Atlantic -- a good read. After this, though, I'll read it in the library or at the bookstore, but never buy it.

re: #152 EIDE_Interface

Did anyone see the photoshop she did showing McCain looking like a zombie freak with gore on his fangs?

Projection.

re: #149 ted

Her website address is "manipulator.com"

Calling Sigmund Freud... Thorazine 1000mg

Dose is a little high, but so what!

re: #145 Nancy

Exactly- and even if those states end up going for him- he now has to spend money there to retain them instead of focusing that money on swing states or leaning states to turn them to him.

re: #140 astronmr20

..and still no sun spots. We are in for a very cold several decades...

Maybe the Muslims will decide it's too damn cold for them, and go home.

On the other hand the right has it easy. We don't have to use special lighting or have to doctor anything to make the Left's candidate look bad, Reality Speaks for itself.

re: #140 astronmr20

..and still no sun spots. We are in for a very cold several decades...

The Goracle spoke, the sun has squat to do with it...
///

re: #98 WarBicycle

I think it is safe to assume her career is ruined.

I don't. Enough derangement in the ad industry that she'll not only find work, she'll be a cause celebre...

re: #153 Dewie

I would think that Atlantic would have some recourse here...
This is more than just a freshman stunt on her part.

Recourse? You mean you believe this nonsense about being fooled and blind-sided?

Here's the link to Greenberg's profile of McCain--in case you want to see how he is portrayed there.

re: #47 HelloDare

Jill Greenberg is the woman who intentionally makes children cry, takes pictures of them and calls it art.

She looks like a fracken' jerk!

re: #138 Josephine

I'm shaking my head.

Who is that nuts? And that mean?

Who would put it on a wall?

Imagine them sending it out with their "seasonal celebration" card or yearly family newsletter.

Who would they leave it to in their will? Would that be the long-awaited time when the child is finally able to destroy it and put that childhood demon to rest?

I would question the fitness of any parents who would subject their kids to that kind of treatment for a fast buck.

re: #125 Sparkizzy

Her website address is "manipulator.com"

Calling Sigmund Freud...

manipulator.com speaks for itself.

The Atlantic knew exactly what they were buying.

This is like bad out takes from The Sweet Smell of Success.

The Editor spoke strongly to some here but to me he just sounded like a guy trying to keep his job.

re: #158 Sharmuta

Exactly- and even if those states end up going for him- he now has to spend money there to retain them instead of focusing that money on swing states or leaning states to turn them to him.

Hi Sharm!~

Don't the polls look beautiful? And Intrade. Republicans supposedly poll lighter on weekends (having families and all that) so we'll see if the numbers go up on Monday.

So many tracking polls ... so little time.

re: #157 SpartanWoman

Dose is a little high, but so what!

Im a shrink...She'll handle it.

re: #106 Tigger2005

Oh, no. She's a shoo-in at the New York Times.

Editorial Page fill-in, no less..

/I am appalled as well.

re: #150 Cartman

Where did that come from?

/MySpace

re: #141 PSGInfinity

Seriously?!

I heard about that here too... Will have to ask NYC Ex the next time politics comes up.

I was planning on telling her to take two days off right after the election, in case Emperor Zero loses and his "supporters" in various riot-prone cities decide to take it out on The Man***.

***in this case, The Man is "anybody white, well-dressed, with a good job, over the age of 25", and she is all of the above.

re: #121 Ojoe

The gloaming. September 14, 2008, Pacific time zone, San Gabriel Mountains, California. (Towercam.)

These views will continue after November.

I am fortunate enough to live at the base of those mountains, down to the right of the picture. I can see that observatory out the window every day. You quickly become accustomed to such things and forget how beautiful they are. Thank you for reminding me.

re: #140 astronmr20

The sun today. Not many spots.

There has to be a way McCain can use his photoshopped image in a political ad.

re: #152 EIDE_Interface

Did anyone see the photoshop she did showing McCain looking like a zombie freak with gore on his fangs?

You mean... zombie is really McCain?

And he chomps Al Gore for a mid-morning snack?

My respect for McCain/zombie just reached a new high.

re: #177 dentate

I am fortunate enough to live at the base of those mountains, down to the right of the picture. I can see that observatory out the window every day. You quickly become accustomed to such things and forget how beautiful they are. Thank you for reminding me.

You are blessed.

Bet the Governor of Alaska can help Jill Greenburg find a REAL Grizzly bear instead of those stuffed ones!

re: #164 JustMyView

Here's the link to Greenberg's profile of McCain--in case you want to see how he is portrayed there.

PIMF = Goldberg's profile, not Greenberg

Schadenfreude.

re: #164 JustMyView

Here's the link to Greenberg's profile of McCain--in case you want to see how he is portrayed there.

The issue isn't the ARTICLE. Or did you skip what Goldberg said, Like others at the Atlantic, I was appalled to read about the actions of Jill Greenberg, the freelance photographer who took the cover portrait that illustrates my article about John McCain. The issue is the PHOTOGRAPH.

re: #160 Thanos

On the other hand the right has it easy. We don't have to use special lighting or have to doctor anything to make the Left's candidate look bad, Reality Speaks for itself.

That's quite a damning video clip.

Obama looks like he can barely wait to get out of there.

re: #114 HelloDare

Terminal BDS inspired her to take those photos.

Greenberg's End Times, a series of photographs featuring toddlers, was the subject of controversy in 2006. The work featured stylized hyper real closeups of children's faces contorted by various emotional distresses. The pieces were titled to reflect Greenberg's frustration with both the Bush administration and Christian Fundamentalism in the United States. The method for getting the children to cry (achieved by offering the children candy and suddenly taking it away) spurred allegations of unethical conduct and provoked the submission of numerous complaints to the art gallery that hosted a public showing of Greenberg's work.[2] [3]

re: #180 victor_yugo

You mean... zombie is really McCain?

And he chomps Al Gore for a mid-morning snack?

My respect for McCain/zombie just reached a new high.

*2 thumbs up*

The Atlantic is in the toilet. BTW, Andrew Sullivan has nothing to say about this. He's gone completely batshit insane if you read his latest posts. Where is the incisive political analyst that he used to be? He can only rage and shake his fist now.

Jill Greenberg is a disgrace to all photographers. I hope she is never hired again and is forced to live out the rest of her life working in a cubicle.

Her previous work with animals and babies is contrived, boring and all looks the same. She is a hack and now the rest of the world will see her for what she is.

re: #121 Ojoe

The gloaming. September 14, 2008, Pacific time zone, San Gabriel Mountains, California. (Towercam.)

These views will continue after November.

Ojoe, it looks like they rotated the Dome!

re: #170 hermeneutics

The polls do look beautiful. I must say, the star tribune poll shocked me because I've spoken to someone who used to work in their polling apparatus, and he confirmed to me that their sample is off kilter. If a poll like the star tribune is showing a long time blue state being tied- it's not looking good for 0bama.

Let the msm do thier worst. I still say it's in the American nature to rally behind the one being bullied.

re: #185 Cognito

Schadenfreude.

I don't think so

re: #178 Ojoe

The sun today. Not many spots.

The sun looks like molten metal.

re: #195 hermeneutics

The sun looks like molten metal.

Globular clusters?

re: #193 Sharmuta

The polls do look beautiful. I must say, the star tribune poll shocked me because I've spoken to someone who used to work in their polling apparatus, and he confirmed to me that their sample is off kilter. If a poll like the star tribune is showing a long time blue state being tied- it's not looking good for 0bama.

Let the msm do thier worst. I still say it's in the American nature to rally behind the one being bullied.

WA is play also now.

I wonder if the worst of these photos(like the zombie one) will make the MSM rounds... If they do I believe Obama is completely sunk.

re: #191 syndicate

It will be interesting to see how she weathers this controversy. Its not like she's a nobody.

Greenberg has done commercial work for corporations such as Phillip Morris, Microsoft, Compaq, Polaroid, Dreamworks, Sony Pictures, Paramount Pictures, MGM, Disney, Fox, Coca Cola, Pepsi, Smirnoff, MTV, Warner Bros., Sony Music, and Atlantic Records. Her photos have appeared on the covers of Time Magazine, TV Guide, Newsweek, US News and World Report, Wired, Entertainment Weekly and numerous other publications.[1]

re: #193 Sharmuta

The polls do look beautiful. I must say, the star tribune poll shocked me because I've spoken to someone who used to work in their polling apparatus, and he confirmed to me that their sample is off kilter. If a poll like the star tribune is showing a long time blue state being tied- it's not looking good for 0bama.

Let the msm do thier worst. I still say it's in the American nature to rally behind the one being bullied.

You'd think the Star Tribune would be able to get a viable sample in their own backyard.

re: #135 Old Guy

OT--This is for TFK--the answer to your question about the song "smoke, smoke, smoke" that cigarette was by Phil Harris, either late 1940's or early fifties--I have the record.

Smoke, Smoke, Smoke That Cigarette

I'm sure someone's said it already but I'm in advertising and have known about this photographer for years and she seemed nasty and abrasive last article I read about her. She basically got famous taking photos of babies crying -- babies she MADE cry. (By giving them lollipops and taking them away is the one she would admit to.) She sounds really pleasant.

Anyone mention the banner across the upper left-hand corner of the Atlantic?

Catch a glimpse here.

It reads "Is pRon Adultery?" on a red corner banner.

re: #175 Killian Bundy

That there's some disturbing shit!

The classic villain with the Snydly Whiplash mustache in cartoons is always taking candy away from a baby, causing the baby to cry.

This woman actually does this, but somehow feels she is the one out fighting evil in the world.

If she can just get rid of those Christians and that president who keeps freeing nations from slavery...

re: #161 jcm

The Goracle spoke, the sun has squat to do with it...
///

Like sustaining all life on Earth?

/Buy more Gore carbon credits! They don't mean jack, but it makes you feel good! Al is laughing all the way to the bank...

re: #197 jcm

WA is play also now.

I hope so. I can't stand these liberal loonies that "represent" me. McDermott, Gregoire, Murray, Cantwell. Although McDermott is not my congresscritter he's a HUGE embarrassment the entire Puget Sound region.

re: #206 LoFlyer

Like sustaining all life on Earth?

/Buy more Gore carbon credits! They don't mean jack, but it makes you feel good! Al is laughing all the way to the bank...

Buy Soylent Carbon Green!

Imagine the outrage if a photographer took a picture of Obama with lighting and background that made only his eyes and teeth visible.

re: #195 hermeneutics

The sun looks like molten metal.

Impossible. Rosie O'Donnell says fire can't molt metal.

Her assignments will probably decrease.

Just guessing.

G'night folks.

re: #200 hermeneutics

You'd think the Star Tribune would be able to get a viable sample in their own backyard.

It's not that they can't- it that they skew their samples intentionally towards the democrats. So for me, if the strib says MN is tied, it's probably leaning McCain.

re: #200 hermeneutics

You'd think the Star Tribune would be able to get a viable sample in their own backyard.

They could.

/if they wanted to

re: #196 EIDE_Interface

Globular clusters?

To me, globular clusters look like white dots gathered against a black background. In the sun pic, perhaps the globular clusters could be seen as dotting the surface of the sun like little bright areas on its orange molten surface (as opposed to the dark ones of sunspots).

I am not a scientist. Duh.

Living in the Tri-State, all news is slanted Obama-mania and McCain & Palin = foolishness. I tell myself, it is ok, this is just New Jersey - the rest of the countrydoes not read the New York Times, or listen to Jonathan Alter on a Sunday Morning purported News show, or listen to Tom Brokaw spin Tim Russert in his grave by quoting Donna Brazille's accusation that to accuse Obama of being a C.O., is to miss that J.C. was one as well. That made me ill. And that the rest of the country does not know what some washed out Air America has been is spewing, or that the so called serious piece on "Joe Biden" on the Clinton News Network forgot to mention that the reason he dropped out of the pres. race was essentially for plagiarism, or that John McCain is computer illiterate despite all evidence to the contrary...Yes, I am from N.J. but II have faith in the rest of this country that the ill winds that blow in this socialist part of out nation do not transcend into other more noble areas of the country. Because frankly, it is really depressing reading the headlines where I live despite the fact that the Emperor, Lord Obama has no clothes.

re: #205 Silhouette

The classic villain with the Snydly Whiplash mustache in cartoons is always taking candy away from a baby, causing the baby to cry.

This woman actually does this, but somehow feels she is the one out fighting evil in the world.

If she can just get rid of those Christians and that president who keeps freeing nations from slavery...

She's a classic, deranged liberal. It's all about what she feels and anything she does to express her feelings is okay (including mentally torturing children). Actually, the children she photographed were probably more mature than her.

re: #200 hermeneutics

You'd think the Star Tribune would be able to get a viable sample in their own backyard.

Nope. BDS, or should we say Reality Derangement Syndrome (RDS)?

re: #207 EIDE_Interface

I hope so. I can't stand these liberal loonies that "represent" me. McDermott, Gregoire, Murray, Cantwell. Although McDermott is not my congresscritter he's a HUGE embarrassment the entire Puget Sound region.

I'm in that weird bump in N. King Co. Jay Inslee, not a lot better.

This one's shaping up like Mondale / Ferraro.

I'd like to take a picture of Jill Greenberg crying when McCain wins the election.

re: #215 wright1

Living in the Tri-State, all news is slanted Obama-mania and McCain & Palin = foolishness. I tell myself, it is ok, this is just New Jersey - the rest of the countrydoes not read the New York Times, or listen to Jonathan Alter on a Sunday Morning purported News show, or listen to Tom Brokaw spin Tim Russert in his grave by quoting Donna Brazille's accusation that to accuse Obama of being a C.O., is to miss that J.C. was one as well. That made me ill. And that the rest of the country does not know what some washed out Air America has been is spewing, or that the so called serious piece on "Joe Biden" on the Clinton News Network forgot to mention that the reason he dropped out of the pres. race was essentially for plagiarism, or that John McCain is computer illiterate despite all evidence to the contrary...Yes, I am from N.J. but II have faith in the rest of this country that the ill winds that blow in this socialist part of out nation do not transcend into other more noble areas of the country. Because frankly, it is really depressing reading the headlines where I live despite the fact that the Emperor, Lord Obama has no clothes.

Obama is only leading in Jersey by +6 on the RCP average if that's any consolation.

By the way...again...

I liked the photo.

re: #177 dentate

I grew up in the San Gabriel Valley, and since I don't live there anymore, I set the Towercam page to be my default internet opener.

Usually I post a link her at sunrise and sunset.

Glad you like it.

re: #204 Cartman

That there's some disturbing shit!

/Oh, there's more, just ask him for it, that's what I did

re: #135 Old Guy

OT--This is for TFK--the answer to your question about the song "smoke, smoke, smoke" that cigarette was by Phil Harris, either late 1940's or early fifties--I have the record.

Abraham DeLacey Guiseppe Casey Thomas O'Mally, the alley cat

re: #219 jcm

I'm in that weird bump in N. King Co. Jay Inslee, not a lot better.

Fortunately Sheriff Reichert is my congresscritter. Still a RINO, but infinitely better then Ditzy Darcy.

re: #220 lummox

This one's shaping up like Mondale / Ferraro.

Lets not get arrogant.

re: #218 taxfreekiller

the msm is dead, just smell if you dare

Yes...and they helped BHO lose.

re: #192 LoFlyer

I think that is a subsidiary telescope.

re: #212 Sharmuta

It's not that they can't- it that they skew their samples intentionally towards the democrats. So for me, if the strib says MN is tied, it's probably leaning McCain.

Wouldn't their poll, then, get a reputation for inaccuracy? I've seen polling firms get rated on accuracy, though they usually only use the final poll and compare it to election data. Perhaps they're fudging the data now and will be more straightforward and honest later?

WTF?

RCP:
McCain 47.4
Obama 45.5
+2.1 McCain

Kos website:
McCain 45
Obama 47
+2 Obama

Who does he think he is kidding?
His poll shows a swing of 4 points to Obama?

re: #209 Mich-again

Imagine the outrage if a photographer took a picture of Obama with lighting and background that made only his eyes and teeth visible.

Reminds me of "black-face" comedy. Not P/C. Negative stereotyping of a minority is not allowed. Go to the back of the line and prepared to be sued by "community activists".

re: #79 victor_yugo

filmed mostly in South Africa and features a woman president

This is a battle for the future of America. It is a battle between those who want to conserve and preserve the Horace Greely vision and the American Judeo-Christian culture and ethic, and those who seek change by moving towards global parity. Unfortunately, the latter hope means that we, as Americans, lose.

re: #186 jcm

The issue isn't the ARTICLE. Or did you skip what Goldberg said, Like others at the Atlantic, I was appalled to read about the actions of Jill Greenberg, the freelance photographer who took the cover portrait that illustrates my article about John McCain. The issue is the PHOTOGRAPH.

I understand. My point was that there is more to The Atlantic's treatment of McCain than this photograph. I think you would find the article interesting. It's all about McCain's ideas on national security.

If The Atlantic doesn't sue her for breach of contract and loss of reputation then won't they will be admitting complicity and possible liability on the magazine's part?

re: #221 HelloDare

I'd like to take a picture of Jill Greenberg crying when McCain wins the election.

smiling here.

I saw the flash video at her website. Yeah, I pretty much know what she "thinks" of McCain.

[Link: manipulator.com...]

re: #225 Killian Bundy

I don't think I wanna go there. I've spent the past year working on a mini-restoration of my sanity. I don't wish to undo it all in one fell swoop. ;)

For those tracking polls, it looks like NJ is going to remain solidly in the Blue. The Record ran a poll and it shows Obama comfortably ahead.

I looked at the underlying split of d/r/i, and it matches my impression of the state's political makeup - generally D, with a large I contingent. GOP makes up a smaller portion, which makes it more difficult for a GOPer to gain traction here. Palin didn't do much to convince independents that she's their kind of woman.

re: #231 hermeneutics

When Jesse Ventura ran for Governor, the last poll before the election had him in dead last with the democrat candidate winning. I would hope they've improved their sample since then, but who knows. It's just my hunch that McCain might actually be leading slightly if the strib has it tied.

They've done it to others. Remember Mark Warner and the cover of the NY Slimes magazine?

They'll do anything to get what they want. They can lie about it later.

Sadly, it works.

re: #232 Typicalwhitey

WTF?

RCP:
McCain 47.4
Obama 45.5
+2.1 McCain

Kos website:
McCain 45
Obama 47
+2 Obama

Who does he think he is kidding?
His poll shows a swing of 4 points to Obama?

Kos has a +9 sample of Dems.

re: #228 EIDE_Interface

Lets not get arrogant.

Lots of time to go. Lots of wacko outspoken right-wing crazies for the media to sniff out. Victory comes the day after election day, or later. Until then, we have to do everything we can to bring victory home..

re: #186 jcm

The issue isn't the ARTICLE. Or did you skip what Goldberg said, Like others at the Atlantic, I was appalled to read about the actions of Jill Greenberg, the freelance photographer who took the cover portrait that illustrates my article about John McCain. The issue is the PHOTOGRAPH.

Just out of curiosity, what is it you don't like about that photograph?

Fellow Lizards:

I'm more convinced then ever that this election is a battle between good and evil. The left has taken off their mask and the American people are finally seeing the true ugliness under that mask. It's too late for the left to put the moderate mask back on, genie out of the bottle. However, we MUST capitalize on this by making sure we keep on the attack.

I think it is very telling that Jill Greenberg took lollipops away from babies to get the kids to make crying faces to shows her contempt for George Bush.

Perfect really.

She is better suited for taking pictures of hemorrhoid flare ups at Folsom Street Fair and Up Your Alley in San Francisco.

re: #232 Typicalwhitey

WTF?

RCP:
McCain 47.4
Obama 45.5
+2.1 McCain

Kos website:
McCain 45
Obama 47
+2 Obama

Who does he think he is kidding?
His poll shows a swing of 4 points to Obama?

Take all polls with an unfortunate, yet real, grain of salt, just like in the primaries.

/Bradley effect

re: #209 Mich-again

Imagine the outrage if a photographer took a picture of Obama with lighting and background that made only his eyes and teeth visible.

Ben Vereen did almost that in Pippin.

re: #237 lifeofthemind

I doubt that. She has a long history of being a deranged Bush hater. They knew that going in.

re: #158 Sharmuta

Plus as I roughly calculate it from various figures released today for the August fundraising and what they each had on hand the end of July --Barry is going to have to raise ANOTHER 100,000 million just to match McCain and the RNC.

But even if he matches McCain, Obamas administrative costs -staff, advisors, rent etc. are DOUBLE McCains. Either he has to cut down on staff to save money or he isn't going to have enough for the the last couple weeks advertising.

I guess the DNC doesn't have that much in their coffers.

He will probably raise it but for the really big bucks he is going to have to make an appearance. And fundraisers are "preaching" to the choir so he isn't out getting votes.

He has already spent twice as much as McCain.

re: #215 wright1

Living in the Tri-State, all news is slanted Obama-mania and McCain & Palin = foolishness. I tell myself, it is ok, this is just New Jersey - the rest of the countrydoes not read the New York Times, or listen to Jonathan Alter on a Sunday Morning purported News show, or listen to Tom Brokaw spin Tim Russert in his grave by quoting Donna Brazille's accusation that to accuse Obama of being a C.O., is to miss that J.C. was one as well. That made me ill. And that the rest of the country does not know what some washed out Air America has been is spewing, or that the so called serious piece on "Joe Biden" on the Clinton News Network forgot to mention that the reason he dropped out of the pres. race was essentially for plagiarism, or that John McCain is computer illiterate despite all evidence to the contrary...Yes, I am from N.J. but II have faith in the rest of this country that the ill winds that blow in this socialist part of out nation do not transcend into other more noble areas of the country. Because frankly, it is really depressing reading the headlines where I live despite the fact that the Emperor, Lord Obama has no clothes.

I haven't watched TV in weeks. Many Americans have learned to rely on Internet for faster, accurate news. I only keep my cable because I love the sports play-offs. The only unscripted entertainment in the world. I'll take a good bowl game over anything Hollywood can do...

re: #215 wright1

the rest of the country does not

And that's the plain truth.

There are the Left Coasts, and then there is Everybody Else. The Left Coasties only know about each other, and don't believe that anybody else matters.

We don't have jobs, we don't have health insurance***, we don't do anything productive for this country or any other, we all have sex with our relatives, we're poor (but not the noble, Holy Brown Community-To-Be-Organized kind of poor), we talk funny, we deserve to die when disaster strikes, nobody does anything between California and NYC except grow corn, smoke meth, fuck our sisters, drive pickups, and watch NASCAR. We can all go to hell and die because we're what stands between the Noble Enlightened Ones of the coasts and the glorious future of Utopian Happiness that they're always just one more election away from realizing.

Politics is the sum of human dysfunction, and they're just as big a bunch of fucked-up suckers and dupes as any, but they will never, ever be able to admit it to themselves, or anybody else, because they're too SMART to be lied to, see? The attitude re-inforces itself.

Trust me, I grew up in Massachusetts, I know how these people see the world.

re: #241 lawhawk

For those tracking polls, it looks like NJ is going to remain solidly in the Blue. The Record ran a poll and it shows Obama comfortably ahead.

I looked at the underlying split of d/r/i, and it matches my impression of the state's political makeup - generally D, with a large I contingent. GOP makes up a smaller portion, which makes it more difficult for a GOPer to gain traction here. Palin didn't do much to convince independents that she's their kind of woman.

Palin shouldn't waste time in New Jersey or New York.

re: #232 Typicalwhitey

The only poll that matters is the general election in November. Everything else is just fun with numbers... they're informative, and if DKos wants to make it appear that McCain is down, that's fine by me... use it as incentive to get out and make sure Obama never gets in the WH except as a visitor.

re: #242 Sharmuta

When Jesse Ventura ran for Governor, the last poll before the election had him in dead last with the democrat candidate winning. I would hope they've improved their sample since then, but who knows. It's just my hunch that McCain might actually be leading slightly if the strib has it tied.

Didn't Ventura run against Coleman, the same guy that's running now against Al Franken?

re: #224 Ojoe

Arcadia here. There is nothing like driving the Angeles Crest Highway and coming over the south rim of the San Gabriels, with the LA Basin and the Pacific stretched out in front of you. Thanks for bringing that page to my attention.

re: #246 Cognito

Just out of curiosity, what is it you don't like about that photograph?

Now you're being contrary once again, for its own sake. Sheesh.

re: #237 lifeofthemind

If The Atlantic doesn't sue her for breach of contract and loss of reputation then won't they will be admitting complicity and possible liability on the magazine's part?

Yes

re: #86 reine.de.tout

She taunted them by offerenig them candy or something, then took it away for the reactions.

only the left wouldn't consider that child abuse.

re: #260 Cartman

Now you're being contrary once again, for its own sake. Sheesh.

What can I say. I'm curious.

I was going to say that Jeffrey Goldberg was a stand-up guy for saying what he did about the sick photos. But I am curious if there wasn't already pressure on the media for their treatment of the Republican candidates, if he would have said anything at all. No one but he could know the answer to that.

I want to take him at his word, but the mainstream media has made its position all too clear in this election. I will have to see more evidence of contrition by the people of The Atlantic before I truly feel that they are sorry for this.

re: #260 Cartman

Now you're being contrary once again, for its own sake. Sheesh.

Why even respond?

re: #256 EIDE_Interface

I happen to agree... they could gain PA, OH, IN, WI, and grab CO and do what's expected elsewhere to win.

re: #247 EIDE_Interface

It is good vs. evil for sure if you ask me

"punished with a baby" ; Abortion "rights"

vs.

Life begins at conception

& I carried my downs baby to term