And I'm sure this will be showing up on the MSM front pages once they are done attacking Palin.
/not quite sarc - they're not going to be done attacking Palin for a long time

Will this come back to bite him in the Fannie?

Naturally there will be no fallout for the O-Team

A normal person might actually be embarrassed by this?

Hmm, seems to me that Obama is the recipient of a lot of money from very odd and "diverse" sources.

Shame this'll never hit the MSM. Hope McCain can use it in a campaign ad.

re: #2 Glackinspeil

Will this come back to bite him in the Fannie?

It Mae.

re: #3 SpartanWoman

Naturally there will be no fallout for the O-Team

Maybe, maybe not. Depends on if Johnny Mac uses it for a campaign ad.

But ... but ... it's all Bush-McCain's fault!

re: #2 Glackinspeil

Will this come back to bite him in the Fannie?

It might even bite him in the Freddie.

Wow I hope Team McCain unleashes the swiftboats on that one.

0bama comes out of Chicago, a notoriously corrupt location for Democratic politics, & I wonder what other hidden baggage he has.

If he gets elected, watch how much money is contributed to the welfare state.

re: #12 red satellite

If he gets elected, watch how much money is contributed to confiscated for the welfare state.

Fixed.

I thought he turned down government funding?

Throwing away more money on another also-ran Democractic nominee. Obama for President: the political equivalent of an interest only ARM liar loan.

I didn't see McCain posted anywhere. Or Palin. /What's wrong with those two?

There's something more than a little strange about a Government-Sponsored Enterprise being able to make campaign donations in the first place.

RICO!

obamicus is just an embarassment. is he the best the dems could come up with? seriously? this is the best? this crooked, leftist, snake oil salesman? this man didn't even deserve to be a senator...I'm mystified by the dems and their adoration of this person..is every single democrat in this country a leftist?

Well, if that doesn't qualify him as an expert on the sub-prime mortgage issue then I don't know what does...

re: #2 Glackinspeil

Will this come back to bite him in the Fannie?

May-be. heh

re: #11 Ojoe

Yes, thinking the same thing. I would use my drunk driver equation here.

Officer: How many drinks have you consumed?

Driver: 5 officer

Multiply by five = actual amount

re: #14 buzzsawmonkey

Change you can bank on!

Great! Rotating title!

Change.

Spare Change.

Your Spare Change.

McCain got $21,550.

Why are these "public servants" paying off our politicians? Are they doing it with our tax dollars?

Almost all of it has come from the employees of Fannie and Freddie (at least according the link). There are better things to hammer Obama on.

Obambi is like a hole in the ground: the deeper you dig, the more dirt you turn up.

re: #21 Spider Mensch

is every single democrat in this country a leftist?

Probably by now that is true, I think centrists have quit the party.

What were they trying to buy?

Woo hoo, just posted my first comment with a brand spanking new PC! Yowser!

Wow. No wonder he hasn't really been talking about any of this.

That and the reports that he asked the Iraqis to delay a withdrawal plan when he met with them could give the media some really tough meat to chew on ... if he were a Republican.

re: #31 Syrah

Your vote.

re: #30 Ojoe

Probably by now that is true, I think centrists have quit the party.

Or been kicked out

Uh, Oh, say it ain't so Joe!

re: #17 Golem Akbar

I didn't see McCain posted anywhere. Or Palin.
/What's wrong with those two?

Neither is exactly an expert, but I agree, any candidate ought to be standing up now.

And saying exactly what? I dunno.

It wasn't the firm you see it was the hard working staff exercising their democratic rights. Adventures in Bundling, now that sounds like Pr0n. In fact wasn't that Heinlein's term for sex?

If those are federally (owned?) (regulated?) entities...wouldn't that mean that tax dollars are doing to Obama? Can someone explain?

re: #30 Ojoe

Probably by now that is true, I think centrists have quit the party.

I'll make a prediction, if the obamicus loses in November, and loses big, (which the way he's going is a possibility) it could be the end of the dem party as it is now. there will be some remnants, but not what they want it to be.

ACK.

doing = going

I don't want to EVER EVER THINK about doing Obama. LOLOLOL.

re: #32 vagabond trader

Woo hoo, just posted my first comment with a brand spanking new PC! Yowser!

Who owns the mortgage on that PC? Is that a pc PC? You better not type anything non-PC on it.
/we'll be here all week folks, be kind to your server

re: #28 David Simon

That is exactly how the corrupt Chicago machine operates. Hire cronies woefully unqualified for positions, then take kickbacks from their bloated salaries.

re: #34 Ojoe

Your vote.

My vote is not for sale.

I just wonder what it is that they thought that money was going to get them?

Is it an indicator that they knew that they were going into the toilet long enough in advance to be able to correct it, but preferred the option of a bailout?

So Fannie and Freddy gave money to Obama they didn't have. Liberals mismanaging financial institutions want someone to mismanage the government. Makes perfect sense.

Also - Looks like Barack received a lot of money from Lehman.

shhhhh it's a secret.

Obama has raised a full $395,574 from employees and PACs of the now-bankrupt Lehman brothers, second only to Hillary Clinton.

re: #40 Spider Mensch

I'll make a prediction, if the obamicus loses in November, and loses big, (which the way he's going is a possibility) it could be the end of the dem party as it is now. there will be some remnants, but not what they want it to be.

Yup.

re: #39 WriterMom

If those are federally (owned?) (regulated?) entities...wouldn't that mean that tax dollars are doing to Obama? Can someone explain?

(up until now) they have not been US tax dollars, exactly. Compared to regular banks, Freddie and Fannie were allowed to cut corners, and because they had the "implied" backing of the US, they had a tiny price advantage over other banks. So, it was always private money, as such, under color of US government guarantees. Very strange situation from its inception, with any luck it's now all over.

Democrats are awash in bad money. & They want to gain control and turn the US into a socialist nanny state. Yeah - that will work.

re: #46 FrogMarch

Also - Looks like Barack received a lot of money from Lehman.

shhhhh it's a secret.

Well that alone was enough to sink them. You think he will give any of that money back to the little people who just got canned?

Ohh, Barack is funded by Mae and Lehman ... how juicy. Hope McCain gets his fantastic ad-generating machine loaded up with this information. Now.

A lot of political mud from Fannie and Freddy. They were the two biggest cronyism 'companies' in the country.

11:35 on Wall Street. No one has gone out a window yet. Market is off its session lows...

re: #6 Kosh's Shadow

It Mae.

Obama just wants to finish eating his Freddie Mac and Cheese.

Last thread stuff, I've seen Charlie Rangel a few times walking around town. My take is that he is old, tired and was ready to quit when the Democrats won and he couldn't turn down being Chair of Ways and Means. I'd bet now that he wishes he had turned down the taste of power and left quietly 2 years ago.

re: #17 Golem Akbar

I didn't see McCain posted anywhere. Or Palin. /What's wrong with those two?

Palin's a gov., what's the point of paying off a gov? McCain got only $21500 over 10 years, 2,100 per year is chump-change.

OT

Sarah Palin speaking live at Jefferson County Fair grounds, I couple of miles from where I am sitting.

A nice qoute.

"There are politicians that use change to promote thier careers and then there are leaders who use careers to promote change."

Walter in Golden, Co.

re: #38 lifeofthemind

It wasn't the firm you see it was the hard working staff exercising their democratic rights. Adventures in Bundling, now that sounds like Pr0n. In fact wasn't that Heinlein's term for sex?

In the book "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress".

re: #54 lifeofthemind

Last thread stuff, I've seen Charlie Rangel a few times walking around town. My take is that he is old, tired and was ready to quit when the Democrats won and he couldn't turn down being Chair of Ways and Means. I'd bet now that he wishes he had turned down the taste of power and left quietly 2 years ago.

LOTM -- I vaguely remember him threatening to leave if the Republicans weren't ousted from the majority.

I heard these numbers from Rush(?) last week - it's embarrassing that a first term senator could get so much money, and that this is getting such little coverage... It goes without saying that if this guys last name was Bush or McCain, there would be calls for investigations - on the contributions as well as the bailout.

Did anyone see Dodd standing in front of a camera saying he wished there were more questions asked before the bailout? Hello, it was your freaking bill that let them do the bail out....

re: #47 Golem Akbar

Yup.

Oh, goody...the wisdom of Robert Redford:

"I think Obama is not tall on experience . . . but I believe he's a really good person. He's smart. And he does represent what the country needs most now, which is change."/

re: #39 WriterMom

If those are federally (owned?) (regulated?) entities...wouldn't that mean that tax dollars are doing to Obama? Can someone explain?

* * *
Fannie & Freddie "socialized/federalized" the risk, but privatized the profits.

Best of both worlds, make a lot of money without knowing what you're doing, then stick taxpayers with your failure & dereliction of duty.

Sen. Chris Dodd (D) has pocketed $165,400 from Fannie/Freddie since 1989 according to Open Secrets.org, and Dodd was supposed to have OVERSIGHT over these bozos lining their pockets, while vetting Democrat veeps.

Fannie & Freddie also dole out hundreds of millions of dollars to "charities" in DC--once again, ill-gotten gains WE'RE stuck paying for, while the semi-federal perps get GOLDEN PARACHUTES.

None of these bozos knew what they were doing, besides enriching themselves and their Democrat enablers.

DRUDGE has linked the "Obama tried to stall GI's Iraqi withdrawal"

woot

re: #56 Walter L. Newton

OT

Sarah Palin speaking live at Jefferson County Fair grounds, I couple of miles from where I am sitting.

A nice qoute.

"There are politicians that use change to promote thier careers and then there are leaders who use careers to promote change."

Walter in Golden, Co.

Walter! ARe you there? If you are not there, do you know someone who can give us a first-hand report of her speech?

re: #40 Spider Mensch

I'll make a prediction, if the obamicus loses in November, and loses big, (which the way he's going is a possibility) it could be the end of the dem party as it is now. there will be some remnants, but not what they want it to be.

I agree. The way both parties have been moving left, we might see a new set of parties. Whether the Republican party moves leftward and has McCain and Lieberman, with a new conservative party, or whether a new center party is formed, with at least Lieberman, and maybe McCain, is a good question.

One problem is the MSM, the bane of third parties. If they ignore the party, it isn't going very far. And they support the loony left Democratic party. The second scenario, of a new centrist party, might be better than the conservative party, because there are many middle-of-the-road voters, and the party can be filled with the RINOS and respectable Democrats (or former Dems, like Lieberman), which will give it enough clout, with already-elected officials, that the MSM will have to take notice.

Then, the Democratic party will join the Socialist Worker's party in the left fringe. (Isn't that a contradiction? I didn't think there were many people who actually worked under socialism.)

I think that's the tip of the iceberg, someone needs to look into donations and personnel relationships with mortgage companies that have sold Fannie and Freddie these high risk and sub prime loans that are causing the crisis.

re: #53 Cygnus

Obama just wants to finish eating his Freddie Mac and Cheese.

Racist!

You know perfectly well that you're just playing off the classic racist stereotype of African-Americans as... um... eating... food.

/

Sorry for the re-post here folks, but I was answering a post by J.S. on the prior thread when Charles threw this thread up:

"Good morning J.S.! Well first of all that IS from CNN so I'd be leary of those reports. Secondly that was for August and we are now halfway through September and Barry won't be getting ANY more money from Fannie or Freddie and I suspect - hell I know - a lot of the Lehman Brothers and other financial institutions have been coughing up dough like crazy for Obama (or at least the high ranking officers are coughing up the dough). Remember, the "Super-Elites" (at least financially and in their own eyes) see Obama as a GREAT candidate for POTUS, opposed only by us angry, white, gun-toting bible clinging folks in Fly-over country.
I have read links out here within the last 7 days, that the Obama camp has reportedly had trouble getting the big contributions in."

re: #41 WriterMom

ACK.
doing = going
I don't want to EVER EVER THINK about doing Obama. LOLOLOL.

oh, you know you want to... ;)

Six-figure contributions to "The One" kind of pale in comparison to the millions former Clinton administration officials soaked Fannie and Freddie for.

But of course, the Dems and the MSM (but I repeat myself) will lay all the blame with Bush.

re: #68 Vergeltung

oh, you know you want to... ;)

That mole is so hypnotizing...........

The three amigo's make the top 20 list - Pelosi, Reid and NObama

Noticed that Senator Dodd comes in at No. 1 on this roll call of shame. Chair of the senate banking committee, pure coincidence no doubt.

sarc/

re: #63 hermeneutics

Walter! ARe you there? If you are not there, do you know someone who can give us a first-hand report of her speech?

Go to KOA live feed [Link: www.850koa.com...] or listen to the replay on line, it should be up after the speech.

I hope this helps voters realize how fast Obama and his socialist stringpullers would completely sink our economic ship if we let them anywhere near the wheel.

heck, I wouldn't even trust one of that gang's planks on the poopdeck.

McCain took $21,500 from the two, and none from the Freddie or Fannie PACs.

Take a gander at the top 12:
Dodd, Christopher J S CT D $165,400 $48,500 $116,900
Obama, Barack S IL D $126,349 $6,000 $120,349
Kerry, John S MA D $111,000 $2,000 $109,000
Bennett, Robert F S UT R $107,999 $71,499 $36,500
Bachus, Spencer H AL R $103,300 $70,500 $32,800
Blunt, Roy H MO R $96,950 $78,500 $18,450
Kanjorski, Paul E H PA D $96,000 $57,500 $38,500
Bond, Christopher S 'Kit' S MO R $95,400 $64,000 $31,400
Shelby, Richard C S AL R $80,000 $23,000 $57,000
Reed, Jack S RI D $78,250 $43,500 $34,750
Reid, Harry S NV D $77,000 $60,500 $16,500
Clinton, Hillary S NY D $76,050 $8,000 $68,050

That's a who's who of Democrats, but quite a few GOPers make that list too. The problems at Freddie and Fannie are bipartisan, but the top names clearly show that the Democrats have more exposure, especially Dodd and Obama.

I just don't get this at all. There is a long list of politicians getting money, on both sides of the aisle I might add.

What does it all mean?

re: #64 Kosh's Shadow

My hunch is if the party structure was upended, today's Republicans cling together with the center ... and the Dems would split into a far left contingent and Independent.

re: #47 Golem Akbar

I've kissed the Democratic party good by myself anyway.

re: #48 itellu3times

(up until now) they have not been US tax dollars, exactly. Compared to regular banks, Freddie and Fannie were allowed to cut corners, and because they had the "implied" backing of the US, they had a tiny price advantage over other banks. So, it was always private money, as such, under color of US government guarantees. Very strange situation from its inception, with any luck it's now all over.

* * *
If you have the "implied" backing of the US Government, that legitimizes you in the eyes of many people.

Now we're stuck bailing them out, so that is DE FACTO backing by the US taxpayer as stooge of last resort.

Biden is about to speak on FOX. I will sum it up with out hearing it. It's all Bush's fault and we don't want a third Bush term. BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH. And oh yeah, those other Republicans also, you know the one with the lipstick and the old guy. OK you all don't have to watch .

re: #58 hermeneutics

LOTM -- I vaguely remember him threatening to leave if the Republicans weren't ousted from the majority.

Sad case, he is the genuine article where Obama is the fake. Even if I disagree with Rangel on 90% of policy I respect him. A true war hero in Korea, really put himself through law school, Self made man, paid his dues and worked his way up. Elected as the Reform candidate after the scandal of Adam Clayton Powell, who was like Obama without the asceticism.

re: #49 FrogMarch

Change, Change, change?.........what will be left in your wallet if NObama gets elected.

re: #43 vagabond trader

That is exactly how the corrupt Chicago machine operates. Hire cronies woefully unqualified for positions, then take kickbacks from their bloated salaries.

Whoa, that's a very serious charge. Do you have any evidence for what you're suggesting?

Many corporations have moonbat employees who will donate to the Obama campaign whether the donations are "bundled" or not.

re: #65 AK oilfield worker

Starting with the Obama's friends at ACORN, and move along to Al Sharpton. Up to their necks in it.

re: #47 Golem Akbar

Yup.

If Obama loses (very big if) the DNC will have to decide if it wishes to remain on the same course it has been on since losing in 2000. The problem for the Dems is money. Thier biggest contributors are also the nastiest operatives, and the most vocal. With the Clinton's hold on the party in decline, Soros and a group of Hollywood bigshots, not to mention the Trial Lawyers, and NOW/Planned Parenthood will dominate. Other than running websites, opposition research, and slander machines, these groups have been a disaster for the Dems. Despite being flush with money, having an alliance with the MSM, univsersites, UN NGOs, the Democratic Party cannot seem to win elections. The 2006 election was not an election of idea, but one of disgust. The public grew weary of Bush and the GOP run Congress. The Dems won mainly by running as Republicans. However, that strategy can only win once. Pelos and Reid and Obama have no ideas. If Obama wins, the victory will be short-lived. Without ideas a party eventually dies.

re: #70 Typicalwhitey

That mole is so hypnotizing...........

like in Austin Powers, where they try not to look at the one character's mole.

guaca-MOLE! ;)

re: #67 realwest

It is an indicator.

People don't like to contribute money to a campaign that they think is doomed.

Intrade's numbers are looking interesting.

re: #31 Syrah
Syrah - what were they trying to buy? I dunno, maybe a bailout from the Fed, a chance to get out with their "retirement" funds, bonuses and all intact?
Connect the dots between Fannie and Freddie and especially the higher ups (and wannabe higher up employees who were clearly able to discern what the Big Boys were doing and desperately wanted to be part of the "club"). Bush has, since those donations were made, had the two put into receivership. Perhaps they thought that could be avoided if they gave enough money to the right campaign.

$ 126,000.00

$$$ CHA CHA CHA CHANGE $$$

re: #82 lifeofthemind

Sad case, he is the genuine article where Obama is the fake. Even if I disagree with Rangel on 90% of policy I respect him. A true war hero in Korea, really put himself through law school, Self made man, paid his dues and worked his way up. Elected as the Reform candidate after the scandal of Adam Clayton Powell, who was like Obama without the asceticism.

Yes. LIke you I respect hardscrabble leftists who come to their political beliefs through experiences I can only imagine.

So few, though.

McCain is the centrist version of the genuine article.

re: #54 lifeofthemind

Last thread stuff, I've seen Charlie Rangel a few times walking around town. My take is that he is old, tired and was ready to quit when the Democrats won and he couldn't turn down being Chair of Ways and Means. I'd bet now that he wishes he had turned down the taste of power and left quietly 2 years ago.

Would really be a shame if he continued to follow in the footsteps of Rostenkowski, wouldn't it? ;->

Wishful thinking, but maybe now that the Gov is temporarily running Freddie and Fanny, they can clean out the rats out of the system.

re: #75 lawhawk

Bennett's one of my Senators. I may send him a letter.

re: #84 David Simon

re: #43 vagabond trader

That is exactly how the corrupt Chicago machine operates. Hire cronies woefully unqualified for positions, then take kickbacks from their bloated salaries.

Whoa, that's a very serious charge. Do you have any evidence for what you're suggesting?

Check out the Byron York piece I linked to in #69. It's not far-fetched. The "unqualified cronies" and "bloated salaries" is definitely in evidence.

OT: (nowhere else to put this, but I'm finding it hard to keep it in),

Up to this point, I've been a Food Channel junkie, and I really like Paula Deen. But the other day I saw MICHELLE OBAMA on her show as a "special guest" and I about fell over. Paula was gushing all over the place, so it was quite apparent where here loyalties were (are). That's it. I'm writing to her and letting her know I'm canelling my subscription to her magazine, sending all her cookbooks to the Salvation Army, and will never, ever watch her show again.

Not that Paula D cares, but that REALLY pissed me off.

Fox is showing Biden on a screen next to the market ticker showing it falling and falling.

that's not the $126,000.00 I knew

re: #69 Spiny Norman

Six-figure contributions to "The One" kind of pale in comparison to the millions former Clinton administration officials soaked Fannie and Freddie for.

But of course, the Dems and the MSM (but I repeat myself) will lay all the blame with Bush.

That's what campaign ads are for.... (of course, to try to bury those ads with their own, in the next ten days the Obamatrons will 'find' half a million supporters to donate 20 dollars ten times a day.)

re: #72 vagabond trader

Noticed that Senator Dodd comes in at No. 1 on this roll call of shame. Chair of the senate banking committee, pure coincidence no doubt.

sarc/

* * *
And Dodd got special mortgage deals from Countryside Mortgage, another belly-up institution peddling subprime loans with Fannie/Freddie's imprimatur, thanks to being a special friend of Angelo Mozillo.

These bozos should have stuck to 30 year fixed-interest mortgages or something they could understand.

McCain is on the list with just one-fifth of Obama's total and that is spread out over ten years to Obama's four. By the time Obama has been there ten year's he'll have more than a quarter million if not more. Biden, however, got only $3,000 -- but Palin of course, the only true outsider, got zilch.

Wall street knows where their bread and butter comes from. Despite all the myths that it is the GOP who are the cronies with Wall Street, the big investment firms have donated far more to Democrats. I believe Goldman Sachs was Hillary's number one contributer.

re: #17 Golem Akbar

I didn't see McCain posted anywhere. Or Palin. /What's wrong with those two?

If you are reffering to a statement about Lehman Brothers, McCain released a statment this morning that he is glad that Taxpayer money wasn't used to bail out Lehman Brothers and went on to outline changes in regulating the financial community he would seek if elected. A much more substantive statement than Obama's doom and gloom, blame Bush statement.

(heard it on the radio this morning)

re: #84 David Simon

Speaking of the Chicago machine, check out David Freddoso's book, The Case Against Barack Obama. A concise eye opener.

re: #69 Spiny Norman

Six-figure contributions to "The One" kind of pale in comparison to the millions former Clinton administration officials soaked Fannie and Freddie for.

But of course, the Dems and the MSM (but I repeat myself) will lay all the blame with Bush.

Nice article, I am shocked that Clinton cronies were involved
//

re: #100 Shug

that's not the $126,000.00 I knew

LMAO

re: #67 realwest

Good Morning, Realwest -- yeah, I sure hope Obama's resources are drying up -- I got the impression that CNN was (once again) attempting to shore-up a flagging Obama campaign...(with regard to all these campaign donations and quasi-legalities to fund Obama (or at least questionable ones) from overseas, Freddie and Fannie, etc., I wonder if any investigation will take place?

re: #99 MandyManners

Fox is showing Biden on a screen next to the market ticker showing it falling and falling.

So far (Dow down 268) this is a bad day on Wall Street, but hardly Armageddon.

re: #98 BaseballMom57

OT: (nowhere else to put this, but I'm finding it hard to keep it in),

Up to this point, I've been a Food Channel junkie, and I really like Paula Deen. But the other day I saw MICHELLE OBAMA on her show as a "special guest" and I about fell over. Paula was gushing all over the place, so it was quite apparent where here loyalties were (are). That's it. I'm writing to her and letting her know I'm canelling my subscription to her magazine, sending all her cookbooks to the Salvation Army, and will never, ever watch her show again.

Not that Paula D cares, but that REALLY pissed me off.

One of the yarn companies I used to do business with sent a free pattern for knitted socks, with 'Obama '08' as the design. Knitwits.

re: #79 Ojoe

I've kissed the Democratic party good by myself anyway.

Me too. But I wouldn't exactly call it a "kiss."

re: #102 alegrias

* * *
And Dodd got special mortgage deals from Countryside Mortgage, another belly-up institution peddling subprime loans with Fannie/Freddie's imprimatur, thanks to being a special friend of Angelo Mozillo.

I find it quite outrageous that Sen. Dodd decided he didn't need to be investigated and the Media, supposedly the self-styled "government watchdog", was fine with that.

re: #82 lifeofthemind
I agree with everything you said about Rangel, but must tell you that he KNEW he was dodging paying taxes - he KNEW he was making money and not reporting it; he tried to blame his wife for it, but it's just bullshit.
After all he's accomplished in his life, to find out he is
an illegal tax evader (or at least so sayeth the IRS and NYS Tax folks) proves to me that he is motivated, and has been for quite some time, by greed. And even that I could forgive him, if he wasn't so sanctimonious about helping the poor people and those nasty rich Republicans.
Sorry, being a crook (and he is) takes away from an awful lot of his genuine accomplishments.

re: #105 Semper Gumbi

If you are reffering to a statement about Lehman Brothers, McCain released a statment this morning that he is glad that Taxpayer money wasn't used to bail out Lehman Brothers and went on to outline changes in regulating the financial community he would seek if elected. A much more substantive statement than Obama's doom and gloom, blame Bush statement.

(heard it on the radio this morning)

It sounds like a flush noise and Obama is starting to circle something porceline.

Rasmussen state polls coming out later today. Can't wait.

re: #82 lifeofthemind

I respect Rangel's military service, but he's now nothing more than a cranky leftist whose views on the military would rather gut it than fund it; he'd rather see tax hikes than pay his own taxes; and he now embodies the very culture of corruption that he sought to eliminate when he ousted Powell all those years ago.

re: #82 lifeofthemind

Sad case, he is the genuine article where Obama is the fake. Even if I disagree with Rangel on 90% of policy I respect him. A true war hero in Korea, really put himself through law school, Self made man, paid his dues and worked his way up. Elected as the Reform candidate after the scandal of Adam Clayton Powell, who was like Obama without the asceticism.

* * * *
Genuine article Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R-California) is another sad case of former hero going corrupt like Charlie Rangel.

Eternal vigilance is the price we pay to keep these folks honest!

re: #20 buzzsawmonkey

"We are the ones we've been contributing to."

i nominate this for a rotating title

re: #98 BaseballMom57

We were saying the same thing in this house last night. Her only saving grace will be if I see Cindy McCain very soon afterward. I am also really mad that the FNC went political. There are not many places left to get away from Democrat propaganda. FNC and Home and Garden Channel used to be safe zones.

re: #98 BaseballMom57

OT: (nowhere else to put this, but I'm finding it hard to keep it in),

Up to this point, I've been a Food Channel junkie, and I really like Paula Deen. But the other day I saw MICHELLE OBAMA on her show as a "special guest" and I about fell over. Paula was gushing all over the place, so it was quite apparent where here loyalties were (are). That's it. I'm writing to her and letting her know I'm canelling my subscription to her magazine, sending all her cookbooks to the Salvation Army, and will never, ever watch her show again.

Not that Paula D cares, but that REALLY pissed me off.

Sorry - the show is going to air 9/20, but I saw an "exclusive" clip about it on her website (which I used to visit once in a while. No more.)

re: #28 David Simon

YEs and no. Since federal contributions are limited to only so much, what they do is use employees NAMES. Sometimes with their permission and sometimes NOT.

While there might be some employees that have actually contributed their own money, more often than not they are reimbursed and/or it isn't their money in the first place. Just their name for the record. That's how they often bundle small contributions.

re: #97 Spiny Norman

Check out the Byron York piece I linked to in #69. It's not far-fetched. The "unqualified cronies" and "bloated salaries" is definitely in evidence.

Good piece, but it asserts that Fannie execs cooked the books to enrich themselves (regrettably, that's not an uncommon problem in corporate America), not Obama (as VT suggested).

I've got a question for Lizards regarding Obama's fundraising numbers v. McCain's.

Obama brought in 66 million last month (?) and McCain took far less. But the DNC has an exponent less than the RNC, supposedly.

1. Somehow, the RNC's money is unable to help McCain very much. Why?
2. Is Obama's fundraising the consequence of Palin, and if so, will it drop off?
3. Who, REALLY, has more money to help the presidential candidates, the R or D?

Thanks.

re: #84 David Simon

Whoa, that's a very serious charge. Do you have any evidence for what you're suggesting?

Many corporations have moonbat employees who will donate to the Obama campaign whether the donations are "bundled" or not.

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That's exactly what happens in DC too--machine politics. Just this summer, DC mayor spent $50 million on make believe jobs for kids who can't read & write, then will hire them for real make believe jobs when they drop out of high school. Who are they going to be loyal to, but the people who gave them their make believe jobs with nice benefits and NO real responsibilities?

re: #104 Nancy

[Link: nymag.com...]

re: #106 vagabond trader

Speaking of the Chicago machine, check out David Freddoso's book, The Case Against Barack Obama. A concise eye opener.

I think I saw him interviewed by Glenn Beck. I know nothing about him. Is he credible?

re: #82 lifeofthemind

Sad case, he is the genuine article where Obama is the fake. Even if I disagree with Rangel on 90% of policy I respect him. A true war hero in Korea, really put himself through law school, Self made man, paid his dues and worked his way up. Elected as the Reform candidate after the scandal of Adam Clayton Powell, who was like Obama without the asceticism.

unfortunately, he is still a moonbat.

re: #104 Nancy
Spot on post!
I wonder if we can get a special prosecutor appointed to look into this mess. I'd especially like to see Dodd (who chairs the Senate Banking Committee and benefitted enormously from changes in banking rules and the subprime mortgage market) get what's coming to him: a year or more in the hotel Graybar.

re: #120 seekeroftruth

Oh I doubt that will happen - the clip shows P practically licking Michele's shoes...*gag*

The people from good homes are talking this year.

re: #131 buzzsawmonkey

Never let it be said that you're an albatross around the neck of LGF.

Nicely done.

A touch of good news. Did the Bear thought he was immune to our cold?

re: #131 buzzsawmonkey

Do you mind if I share that?

re: #50 Nevergiveup

Hope NOpe.

re: #110 Occasional Reader

So far (Dow down 268) this is a bad day on Wall Street, but hardly Armageddon.

FoxNews.com front page has "STREET OF FEAR" as one of their lead headlines.

PIMF

re: #117 lawhawk
What you said and then some! Great post and blog today, btw!

re: #114 realwest

I agree with everything you said about Rangel, but must tell you that he KNEW he was dodging paying taxes - he KNEW he was making money and not reporting it; he tried to blame his wife for it, but it's just bullshit.
After all he's accomplished in his life, to find out he is
an illegal tax evader (or at least so sayeth the IRS and NYS Tax folks) proves to me that he is motivated, and has been for quite some time, by greed. And even that I could forgive him, if he wasn't so sanctimonious about helping the poor people and those nasty rich Republicans.
Sorry, being a crook (and he is) takes away from an awful lot of his genuine accomplishments.

I'm not sure his strong-arm tactics (who wants a Congressional investigation with the attendant, umm... publicity?) with the big mortgage lenders to coerce them into making more home loans to "the poor and underpriviledged in the inner cities" is much of an "accomplishment" considering it's a big part of what lend to the current banking crisis.

He's just a shake-down artist with a seat in Congress. Good riddance.

re: #7 Honorary Yooper

Didn't you mean Freddie Mac?

re: #114 realwest

I agree with everything you said about Rangel, but must tell you that he KNEW he was dodging paying taxes - he KNEW he was making money and not reporting it; he tried to blame his wife for it, but it's just bullshit.
After all he's accomplished in his life, to find out he is
an illegal tax evader (or at least so sayeth the IRS and NYS Tax folks) proves to me that he is motivated, and has been for quite some time, by greed. And even that I could forgive him, if he wasn't so sanctimonious about helping the poor people and those nasty rich Republicans.
Sorry, being a crook (and he is) takes away from an awful lot of his genuine accomplishments.

That's it in a nutshell.

re: #114 realwest

I agree with everything you said about Rangel, but must tell you that he KNEW he was dodging paying taxes - he KNEW he was making money and not reporting it; he tried to blame his wife for it, but it's just bullshit.
After all he's accomplished in his life, to find out he is
an illegal tax evader (or at least so sayeth the IRS and NYS Tax folks) proves to me that he is motivated, and has been for quite some time, by greed. And even that I could forgive him, if he wasn't so sanctimonious about helping the poor people and those nasty rich Republicans.
Sorry, being a crook (and he is) takes away from an awful lot of his genuine accomplishments.

More errors for Rangel; hires new accountant
It was those darn accoutants!

re: #112 Golem Akbar

I'll tell you why I'm pissed at the Democratic party:

They go and nominate 0bama, someone who went to a madrassa and calls the Muslim call to prayer "beautiful", while we are at war with an Islamic enemy that wants to murder me and my wife and children.

And then I have to worry for the whole campaign that this possible traitor will get elected.

Screw the Democratic party.

I've actually commented on a related topic on my own blog. The bottom line here is that the Fannie/Freddie collapse is a topic that the McCain/Palin ticket would do well to bring up. The failure of the GSEs is not in any meaningful way a failure of the free market. Rather, it is a case study in how government intervention in the economy can create moral hazard.

Fannie and Freddie were both long recognized as Democratic sinecures - places where well-connected Democrats could be set to become rich well-connected Democrats. Long-time Fannie CEO Franklin Raines was a highly placed official in the Carter administration (associate director for economics and government in the Office of Management and Budget and assistant director of the White House Domestic Policy Staff). Long-time CEO James Johnson was executive assistant to Walter Mondale in the Carter administration as well as one-time head of Barack Obama's vice-presidential search committee. Jamie Gorelick, long-time counsel for Fannie, was...well, we all know about Ms. Gorelick.

The GSEs' business activities have long expanded beyond their basic mission to repackage home mortgages into publicly tradeable bonds. The most problematic of the strategies was an "arbitrage" trade in which they borrowed money at rates well below market, due to their implicit guarantee from the federal government, and purchased the very mortgage bonds that they packaged to the market. They, in turn collected the spread between the yield on these mortgage bonds and the below market rate that they could get due to the government implied guarantee. So long as the bonds remained sound, the spread goosed their earnings. Unfortunately, the vastly increased leverage made them very vulnerable to deterioration of the underlying bonds. They were, in effect operating a (very poorly managed) hedge fund backed by the capital of the taxpayers.

While I'm reluctant to see Republicans take an anti-business stance, what was going on here was blatantly corrupt and went against any free market principle that Republicans stand for. Sen. Obama has given little, if any, indication that he will do anything other than return the GSEs to business as usual as soon as possible. To me, that makes Fannie and Freddie the ideal target for conservative reformers.

re: #135 lifeofthemind

A touch of good news. Did the Bear thought he was immune to our cold?

I think the Bear came up with his problems all by his lonesome, actually. For some reason, people are reluctant to invest in a nascent neo-Soviet state... gee, who'd of thunk it?

I saw a report last week that O had received money, but not an amount.

Holy Batshit!

Has McCain received anything?

re: #138 gop_patriot

FoxNews.com front page has "STREET OF FEAR" as one of their lead headlines.

It's good that we can alway count on Fox for calm, rational analysis.

/

re: #122 Nancy

YEs and no. Since federal contributions are limited to only so much, what they do is use employees NAMES. Sometimes with their permission and sometimes NOT.

While there might be some employees that have actually contributed their own money, more often than not they are reimbursed and/or it isn't their money in the first place. Just their name for the record. That's how they often bundle small contributions.

It would be interesting to know if this was done and how many employees knew about their name being used.

What legal recourse is there if they didnt know their name was used? Would it become a he said she said situation? Would the Silky Pony take up the employees battle standard?

re: #125 alegrias

* * *
That's exactly what happens in DC too--machine politics. Just this summer, DC mayor spent $50 million on make believe jobs for kids who can't read & write, then will hire them for real make believe jobs when they drop out of high school. Who are they going to be loyal to, but the people who gave them their make believe jobs with nice benefits and NO real responsibilities?

Hmmmmmmm,
Chicago, DC, what do those two cities have in common?

Did Obama violate the Logan Act?

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

re: #113 Spiny Norman

I find it quite outrageous that Sen. Dodd decided he didn't need to be investigated and the Media, supposedly the self-styled "government watchdog", was fine with that.

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Yes, and Senator Dodd decided Fannie & Freddie didn't need closer supervision. As if this idiot understands financial statements.

As if these people know how to run a business of any sort.

re: #127 MandyManners
Excellent link Mandy - I've reported it to Charles for a possible thread linking the rich investment banker, wall street types with the Dems.
Perhaps you should report it yourself!

re: #123 David Simon

Good piece, but it asserts that Fannie execs cooked the books to enrich themselves (regrettably, that's not an uncommon problem in corporate America), not Obama (as VT suggested).

I'd be willing to bet there's more behind the scenes... and I'm quite certain the contributions to Sen. Dodd was to make his committee look the other way.

re: #146 Ojoe

I'll tell you why I'm pissed at the Democratic party:

They go and nominate 0bama, someone who went to a madrassa and calls the Muslim call to prayer "beautiful", while we are at war with an Islamic enemy that wants to murder me and my wife and children.

And then I have to worry for the whole campaign that this possible traitor will get elected.

Screw the Democratic party.

I"m with you Ojoe. I look at all my kids ... and worry about their future. Still, I'm loyal to my country. I'll stick it out until it reaches the point that it cannot be reformed.

re: #1 Kosh's Shadow

And I'm sure this will be showing up on the MSM front pages once they are done attacking Palin.
/not quite sarc - they're not going to be done attacking Palin for a long time

You know, I think that the MSM is going to be very much
done, attacking Palin.

:)

No liquidation anticipated for Lehman.
People need to understand the tole of the Corporation in absorbing risk. The LEH holding company goes under but the seperate legal entities LEH brokerage and Neuberger Asset Management survive. It is why the English use Ltd. for limited liability instead of Inc.

re: #148 Occasional Reader

who'd of thunk it

(Is the correct malapropism "who'd have thunk it"? Or is there no such thing as an incorrect malapropism? It's like a Zen koan.)

re: #149 jorline

I saw a report last week that O had received money, but not an amount.

Holy Batshit!

Has McCain received anything?

From the Link, there is money flying around everywhere, on both sides of the aisle, and because of that I don't think is even a story, except as one of generalized corruption.

Among all of his other failings, Obama is a Chicago Machine hack.
He has an interesting relationship with real estate & motrgage lenders.
Rezko comes to mind.

re: #69 Spiny Norman

Six-figure contributions to "The One" kind of pale in comparison to the millions former Clinton administration officials soaked Fannie and Freddie for.

But of course, the Dems and the MSM (but I repeat myself) will lay all the blame with Bush.

Gorelick’s situation was similar. OFHEO found that she took home $26.46 million in the period from 1998 to 2002 (she left in that year, so she wasn’t there for the entire period under investigation). Of that figure, nearly $15 million came from EPS bonuses.

the same Gorelick who helped install the intelligence wall that led to our pre-9/11 intelligence failures.

Jamie Gorelick (D) - Clinton administration - She sure has a lot of power. A lot of power to screw this nation over and over.

re: #125 alegrias

Its a little worse then that - they needed to do it because they raised the minimum wage, which had the predictable result of cutting opportunities.

re: #128 David Simon

I have also seen Freddoso on Glenn Beck's program (twice), and both times Freddoso appeared very credible (Freddoso would also correct any "exaggerations" or clear up any misinterpretations of what he was stating.) He seems knowledge and one of the few who's actually taken some time to investigate Obama's connections. I haven't read the book yet. There's the amazon link, also can look at the Table of Contents....

re: #140 realwest

Thanks!

A vote for Obama is a vote for Pelosi, Reid, Clinton, and Gorelick.

McCain needs to hammer than home.

re: #132 BaseballMom57

Oh I doubt that will happen - the clip shows P practically licking Michele's shoes...*gag*

* Spew alert - LOL

re: #167 FrogMarch

A vote for Obama is a vote for Pelosi, Reid, Clinton, and Gorelick.

McCain needs to hammer than home.

With a big freaken Hammer!

re: #122 Nancy

YEs and no. Since federal contributions are limited to only so much, what they do is use employees NAMES. Sometimes with their permission and sometimes NOT.

While there might be some employees that have actually contributed their own money, more often than not they are reimbursed and/or it isn't their money in the first place. Just their name for the record. That's how they often bundle small contributions.

What you've just described is a clear violation of federal law. The money must come from individuals, and it must be voluntary. If what you are saying is true, it is a very serious charge. Do you have any evidence to back it up?

re: #111 scottishbuzzsaw

One of the yarn companies I used to do business with sent a free pattern for knitted socks, with 'Obama '08' as the design. Knitwits.

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How dumb not to include bi partisan sock patterns! Left foot, right foot!

re: #151 Eowyn2 In this economy it would take employees with truly high degrees of integrity to mess around with their employers like that.

re: #147 Bill Dalasio

One of the best posts ever on LGF, congratualtions.

re: #56 Walter L. Newton

OT

Sarah Palin speaking live at Jefferson County Fair grounds, I couple of miles from where I am sitting.

A nice qoute.

"There are politicians that use change to promote thier careers and then there are leaders who use careers to promote change."

Walter in Golden, Co.

One of the better lines from her acceptance speech.

re: #169 Nevergiveup

With a big freaken Hammer!

re: #111 scottishbuzzsaw

One of the yarn companies I used to do business with sent a free pattern for knitted socks, with 'Obama '08' as the design. Knitwits.

It's really annoying, isn't it? I've seen things like that also. It amazes me that the owners of these companies are so comfortable in their blinders that they don't realize that everyone doesn't believe what they believe. They will lose business over this kind of thing- I buy from a company for their product, not their political beliefs!

/These are the same folks that would tell you that the Republicans are close-minded and blind to other people's beliefs. ha.

re: #167 FrogMarch

A vote for Obama is a vote for Pelosi, Reid, Clinton, and Gorelick.

McCain needs to hammer than home.

And to emphasize the 'with unchecked power' part.

re: #153 Winnetka_Joe

Did Obama violate the Logan Act?

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

That's the one I was thinking of, thank you.

re: #148 Occasional Reader

I think the Bear came up with his problems all by his lonesome, actually. For some reason, people are reluctant to invest in a nascent neo-Soviet state... gee, who'd of thunk it?

If their economy tanks, they might become even more paranoid and dangerous.

Wow. Dow just went from 307 down to 273 down in a matter of moments... maybe that news on "no liquidation of Lehman needed" helped?

re: #160 Occasional Reader

(Is the correct malapropism "who'd have thunk it"? Or is there no such thing as an incorrect malapropism? It's like a Zen koan.)

You need the bring the 'of' into the 'who' more.

Who'da thunk it.

/.02

"Change" The only thing left once Obama gets a hold of your Paycheck.

This saying has been placed in my signature at the bottom of all my outgoing e-mails.

Charles open a thread dedicated to political sayings, antedotes, slogans, etc..

re: #98 BaseballMom57

OT: (nowhere else to put this, but I'm finding it hard to keep it in),

Up to this point, I've been a Food Channel junkie, and I really like Paula Deen. But the other day I saw MICHELLE OBAMA on her show as a "special guest" and I about fell over. Paula was gushing all over the place, so it was quite apparent where here loyalties were (are). That's it. I'm writing to her and letting her know I'm canelling my subscription to her magazine, sending all her cookbooks to the Salvation Army, and will never, ever watch her show again.

Not that Paula D cares, but that REALLY pissed me off.

Easy - Paula Gushes over everyone. I'm guessing she'd be just as tickled to prepare moose burgers with Sarah Palin or a nice queso dip with Cindy McCain.

re: #131 buzzsawmonkey

Oh that's good. Favorited!

re: #177 runrabbitrun

And to emphasize the 'with unchecked power' part.

Indeed. The democrats are awash in unchecked power. All while the media protect and shield that power.

re: #178 lifeofthemind

That's the one I was thinking of, thank you.

Wow, fresh meat for another McCain ad.

re: #170 David Simon

What you've just described is a clear violation of federal law. The money must come from individuals, and it must be voluntary. If what you are saying is true, it is a very serious charge. Do you have any evidence to back it up?

Welcome to the way the Chicago Machine has been doing business for decades.

There is a reason why the FBI has more agents in Chicago than any other city in the US.

I guess Obama is blaming McCains GOP for the current subprime (and more) finacial meltdown. I've posted info linking President Clinton to this in the links before but it never took off. I really believe Clinton is the genesis of this mess, check this out:

Making It Easier to Qualify for Mortgage Loans. The FHA has eliminated unnecessary and overly strict requirements under its loan program that made it difficult for many families to qualify for mortgage loans. It has also given lenders greater flexibility to make homeownership possible for more nontraditional borrowers, and has clarified certain underwriting requirements so they are not applied in a discriminatory manner.

President Clintons National Homeownership Strategy

re: #125 alegrias

* * *
That's exactly what happens in DC too--machine politics. Just this summer, DC mayor spent $50 million on make believe jobs for kids who can't read & write, then will hire them for real make believe jobs when they drop out of high school. Who are they going to be loyal to, but the people who gave them their make believe jobs with nice benefits and NO real responsibilities?

Yes, it's a not too infrequent occurrence in Chicago. I was referring to the charge leveled at Freddie and Fannie.

Off topic but definitely a big deal.

Pakistan military shoots at American helicopters

Some very good comments afterwords. One is hopeful that this is just a farce to give the Paki military cover from the jihadis within their country but one could also make the argument though that we're at war with Pakistan.

re: #147 Bill Dalasio

On the face of it -- that doesn't sound legal...(I think many others have gone to jail for much less...)

re: #176 gop_patriot

It's really annoying, isn't it? I've seen things like that also. It amazes me that the owners of these companies are so comfortable in their blinders that they don't realize that everyone doesn't believe what they believe. They will lose business over this kind of thing- I buy from a company for their product, not their political beliefs!

/These are the same folks that would tell you that the Republicans are close-minded and blind to other people's beliefs. ha.

Well said...

This is interesting, Jonah links from the NYPost in the Corner just now:

WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.

Well all y'all it's been grand, but I've put off all the chores I have to do for too long now.
And I probably won't be on LGF after around 10 AM Eastern tomorrow as I'll be spending lots of time at Oncologist's office and at hospital X-ray rooms.
I do hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

re: #117 lawhawk

I respect Rangel's military service, but he's now nothing more than a cranky leftist whose views on the military would rather gut it than fund it; he'd rather see tax hikes than pay his own taxes; and he now embodies the very culture of corruption that he sought to eliminate when he ousted Powell all those years ago.

* * * *
Charlie Rangel, former hero, now:

Cheating on your New York subsided rent-controlled apartments--gaming the system;

Cheating on your OFF-SHORE Dominican Republican properties--what they accuse others of doing--ripping off both Dominicans & US taxpayers by underreporting income.

Rangel is ripping off poor people everywhere while pretending to defend them. Plus he wanted to reinstutute the draft which democrats fought so hard to END.

OT

What does "OT" mean? I see it used a lot when someone posts something that is off topic.

/

re: #127 MandyManners

[Link: nymag.com...]

I still can't get over that image.

re: #183 DaddyG

Easy - Paula Gushes over everyone. I'm guessing she'd be just as tickled to prepare moose burgers with Sarah Palin or a nice queso dip with Cindy McCain.

I agree with you. My wife watches her on Saturday morning & it is clear that she is just gracious. Beside , she throws a stick of butter in everything.

re: #194 realwest

Well all y'all it's been grand, but I've put off all the chores I have to do for too long now.
And I probably won't be on LGF after around 10 AM Eastern tomorrow as I'll be spending lots of time at Oncologist's office and at hospital X-ray rooms.
I do hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Take care, realwest...

re: #196 Walter L. Newton

Off Topic

By Joe Stephens
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, July 2, 2008; A03

Shortly after joining the U.S. Senate and while enjoying a surge in income, Barack Obama bought a $1.65 million restored Georgian mansion in an upscale Chicago neighborhood. To finance the purchase, he secured a $1.32 million loan from Northern Trust in Illinois.

The freshman Democratic senator received a discount. He locked in an interest rate of 5.625 percent on the 30-year fixed-rate mortgage, below the average for such loans at the time in Chicago. The loan was unusually large, known in banker lingo as a "super super jumbo." Obama paid no origination fee or discount points, as some consumers do to reduce their interest rates.

Compared with the average terms offered at the time in Chicago, Obama's rate could have saved him more than $300 per month.

Within Obama's presidential campaign organization, former Fannie Mae chief executive James A. Johnson resigned abruptly as head of the vice presidential search committee after his favorable Countrywide loan became public.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

re: #199 scottishbuzzsaw

Take care, realwest...

Yes, really take care. And I'll see you after your procedures and my surgery. Soon.

re: #198 opnion

I agree with you. My wife watches her on Saturday morning & it is clear that she is just gracious. Beside , she throws a stick of butter in everything.

I like Paula, but I have a feeling she's going to keel over with a heart attack one of these day, during a taping.

re: #200 rawmuse

Off Topic

Who. HUH...

re: #145 AK oilfield worker

More errors for Rangel; hires new accountant
It was those darn accoutants!

lol. Yeah, someone who actually writes the fucking tax laws would have no idea how to review his own tax return.

A Chicago Machine pol with his snout down in the public trough?

This is not news. Just another 'dog bites man' story.

re: #185 FrogMarch

Indeed. The democrats are awash in unchecked power. All while the media protect and shield that power.

Bingo! As long as the media covers and protects the Dems, they have become lazy and completely corrupt. The best thing that could happen to their party is for the media to stop protecting them and let the chips fall where they will. That is the only way they will be able to come back as a strong political party. In an act of irony, the MSM is destroying the Democrat party by allowing this corruption to festered and internally destroy them.

re: #198 opnion

Beside , she throws a stick of butter in everything.

Yummmm...butter...food of the gods.

SUSA has McCain down 4% in Virginia. This poll had a +4 Dem as the party ID in VA, ridiculously high. A phone poll. This is a safe Republican seat.

Rasmussen will release a better VA state poll later today. Just wait for that one.

re: #135 lifeofthemind

A touch of good news. Did the Bear thought he was immune to our cold?

Yep - according to the good old 'Bear times', if the USA sneezed, the rest of the Capitalist World caught cold - but not the Bear and its cubs.
Seems they've not quite grasped that they're not immune any longer, what a shame ...

re: #196 Walter L. Newton

OT

What does "OT" mean? I see it used a lot when someone posts something that is off topic.

/

It's short for "rabid OTter warning". You'd be surprised how many otter attacks happen while people are online.

re: #124 hermeneutics

I've got a question for Lizards regarding Obama's fundraising numbers v. McCain's.

Obama brought in 66 million last month (?) and McCain took far less. But the DNC has an exponent less than the RNC, supposedly.

1. Somehow, the RNC's money is unable to help McCain very much. Why?
2. Is Obama's fundraising the consequence of Palin, and if so, will it drop off?
3. Who, REALLY, has more money to help the presidential candidates, the R or D?

Thanks.

* * * *
One thing is for sure, no matter how much money the Dems rake in, they spend it foolishly, for example, squandering it on 300 foreign policy advisors who can't agree on what to say! As Rudy Giuliani said, Obama should just call John McCain when he has a question about how to respond to the Soviet invasion of Georgia.

Dems squander & waste because they are not "conservative" about money. Especially other people's money.

Obama's campaign "burn rate" is many times that of the McCain-Palin, tight-wad campaign.

A great explanation of how Freddie and Fanny work.

re: #204 Walter L. Newton

Sorry, I am slow this morning... neurons not firing up to spec yet...

Huge:

Hello McCain campaign, time for a new advert:
OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS' IRAQ WITHDRAWAL

WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.

Change! (if the timing is just right)

McCain says will overhaul financial regulations. Glad he isn't letting this fester. The response time of the McCain campaign is generally impressive.

re: #201 Nancy

By Joe Stephens
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, July 2, 2008; A03

Shortly after joining the U.S. Senate and while enjoying a surge in income, Barack Obama bought a $1.65 million restored Georgian mansion in an upscale Chicago neighborhood. To finance the purchase, he secured a $1.32 million loan from Northern Trust in Illinois.

Northern Trust is the bank of an Obama ally and supporter, Alexi Giannoulias, who just happens to be the State Treasurer for the State of Illinois. Northern Trust, IIRC, has had ties to the Chicago Outfit in that past.

Why are very few professional blacks actually supporting Obama when his entire campaign is full of white Liberals? I've spoken with some close black friends of mine and they are definitely straight shooters and they have noticed that also.

When Barack said he wanted change, he didn't mean "change" as in "do things differently" he meant change as in "keep the change" which is his precisely his policy he just wants to take your money. (I originally put keep your money, but that is incorrect, taxation is the government taking your money.)

re: #194 realwest

Well all y'all it's been grand, but I've put off all the chores I have to do for too long now.
And I probably won't be on LGF after around 10 AM Eastern tomorrow as I'll be spending lots of time at Oncologist's office and at hospital X-ray rooms.
I do hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

You have a great day and keep your spirits up. Bless you.
We're with you all the way.

re: #165 J.S.

I have also seen Freddoso on Glenn Beck's program (twice), and both times Freddoso appeared very credible (Freddoso would also correct any "exaggerations" or clear up any misinterpretations of what he was stating.) He seems knowledge and one of the few who's actually taken some time to investigate Obama's connections. I haven't read the book yet. There's the amazon link, also can look at the Table of Contents....

Apparently, he's a staff writer for National Review. Thanks for the link; I'll check out the book.

re: #213 alegrias

I never quite understood liberal understand of money. When it comes to spending the supply is infinite. When it comes to earning, the pool is finite.

re: #208 scottishbuzzsaw

Yummmm...butter...food of the gods.

Slurp!

re: #196 Walter L. Newton

OT

What does "OT" mean? I see it used a lot when someone posts something that is off topic.

/

Is it PC to go OT with something that is not on the QT?

re: #101 runrabbitrun

That's what campaign ads are for.... (of course, to try to bury those ads with their own, in the next ten days the Obamatrons will 'find' half a million supporters to donate 20 dollars ten times a day.)

I presume that it would be possible to write a PC application that would produce randomized names, addresses, and places of employment to make a continuous stream of small dollar (i.e., unreportable) campaign contributions.

re: #86 jpkoch

If Obama loses (very big if) the DNC will have to decide if it wishes to remain on the same course it has been on since losing in 2000. The problem for the Dems is money. Thier biggest contributors are also the nastiest operatives, and the most vocal. With the Clinton's hold on the party in decline, Soros and a group of Hollywood bigshots, not to mention the Trial Lawyers, and NOW/Planned Parenthood will dominate. Other than running websites, opposition research, and slander machines, these groups have been a disaster for the Dems. Despite being flush with money, having an alliance with the MSM, univsersites, UN NGOs, the Democratic Party cannot seem to win elections. The 2006 election was not an election of idea, but one of disgust. The public grew weary of Bush and the GOP run Congress. The Dems won mainly by running as Republicans. However, that strategy can only win once. Pelos and Reid and Obama have no ideas. If Obama wins, the victory will be short-lived. Without ideas a party eventually dies.

I am in total agreement with every point. However, I would posit the following:

Many of the big leftist donors plan to retire in the next few years. In 2008, they are still at the pinnacle of their careers and at the peak of their earning power. But in the next few years, I foresee many companies quietly deciding to scale back retirement packages in fear of a glut of retirees, and those closest to retirement may decide to get out now while the getting is good. Once they retire, money sent to some cause is not there should they have a heart attack or their spouses disagree with a staircase and break a hip.

An Obama loss is the center-left's biggest chance to seize control of the Democrats, as the likes of Kos, Goodman, and the rest of the far left would be to blame. The retirement of lefty boomers in the media, along with the scandals that seem to discredit the mainstream media at every turn, give a lot of younger up-and-coming folks the chance to in turn change the direction the media takes.

2012 could be very different if McCain wins.

re: #215 rawmuse

Sorry, I am slow this morning... neurons not firing up to spec yet...

It was a little Monday morning humor. Very little I suspect!

OT (damm, another otter attack)

Ok, well, you won't have Walter to beat up for a few days. I have the hernia surgery tomorrow (Sept. 16th), and I suspect I will be a bit out of it for a few days.

I'm waiting fo the nice list of opiates they send me home with. Gotta love that white candy.

By the way, Obama will be here in town tomorrow while I am getting my crouch cut on. Hell be at the School of Mines in Golden. I wonder if Al-Jazeera will be back to cover it?
Walter in Golden, Co.

re: #185 FrogMarch

Indeed. The democrats are awash in unchecked power. All while the media protect and shield that power.

Well, the sooner the filthy capitalist swineship USS Amerikkka flounders and sinks deep into the muddy waters of individual freedom greed, the sooner kindly old Big Brother Government can take charge and organize benefit the lives of us all.

/

re: #105 Semper Gumbi

Ahh, more OODA sh_t. It looks like Obama is going to go on the "offensive" now after getting his tail handed to him by McCain and Palin for the last fortnight or so ... just as McCain starts hammering issues, policy, and specifics in advance of the debates.

I bet McCain buries the press with a series of detailed white papers and answers this week defining his position on all of the debate topics. Obama will still be screaming McSame and Palin is a pretty face, just when the press is getting tired of "negative campaigning."

re: #163 FrogMarch

the same Gorelick who helped install the intelligence wall that led to our pre-9/11 intelligence failures.

Jamie Gorelick (D) - Clinton administration - She sure has a lot of power. A lot of power to screw this nation over and over.

Now she is now very, very rich on top of that.

Will she ever have to face the music? I very much doubt it, not with a Democrat majority in Congress. Same for Clinton's former budget director Franklin Raines.

re: #197 David Simon

I still can't get over that image.

Soros holding on....
True! That's just .......Disturbing!
Is he levitating?

re: #225 lifeofthemind

Is it PC to go OT with something that is not on the QT?

Only if you do it PDQ then CYA to avoid a massive CF.

re: #187 Honorary Yooper

Welcome to the way the Chicago Machine has been doing business for decades.

There is a reason why the FBI has more agents in Chicago than any other city in the US.

Agreed. Again, I was referring to the charge that Freddie and Fannie ghost-payrolled to help Obama.

change you can't believe in

re: #228 Walter L. Newton

I'm waiting fo the nice list of opiates they send me home with. Gotta love that white candy.

Re-MEM-BAHHHH
what the DOORmouse SAIDDDD
FEED your HEADDDD

Good luck with the surgery, Walter.

re: #216 Yankee Division Son

Huge:

Hello McCain campaign, time for a new advert:
OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS' IRAQ WITHDRAWAL

WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.

Change! (if the timing is just right)

Sen. McCain MUST make an ad about this.

re: #225 lifeofthemind

Is it PC to go OT with something that is not on the QT?

Maybe not if GMTA.

OT

Biden To Get Tough On McCain in Michigan

WILMINGTON, DE — Democratic Vice Presidential Nominee Joe Biden steps up the pressure on John McCain today in Macomb County, MI — the spiritual home of the Reagan Democrats — arguing that McCain would bring four more years of the same Bush domestic policies.

Biden’s speech, to be followed by a similar address on McCain’s foreign policy deficiencies next week, is designed as a prosecutorial, “just the facts” rundown of why the GOP nominee is “dead wrong” on kitchen table issues facing middle class Americans.

“We’ve seen this movie before, folks. But as everyone knows, the sequel is always worse than the original,” Biden will say, according to prepared remarks released by the campaign. “Just as George Herbert Walker Bush was nicknamed ‘Bush 41′ and his son is known as ‘Bush 43,’ John McCain could easily become known as ‘Bush 44.’”

Oh brother. Still running against Bush. Wasn't Biden one of the guys calling McCain a maverick in the past?

re: #228 Walter L. Newton

Hell be at the School of Mines in Golden

Actually, that was a misprint; in keeping with his fascination with all things European, Obama will actually be visiting the School of Mimes.

re: #231 Spiny NormanNow now? Now now now!

Oops.

re: #216 Yankee Division Son

Not an Ad, McCain shouldn't touch this he isn't in the executive branch yet and partisan politics should stop at the border.

A Bushie AG needs to convene a grand jury and leak like a sieve. Go after the staffers - not the man. The press will pick it up.

Forget about Barack Obama for one second. Why is it that Christopher Dodd always seems to be in the middle of almost anything that goes wrong?

Now back to Barack 0bama...

re: #217 lifeofthemind

McCain says will overhaul financial regulations. Glad he isn't letting this fester. The response time of the McCain campaign is generally impressive.

I'm thinking they read LGF, so they get the news as it breaks

re: #228 Walter L. Newton

Wishing you well with your procedure. I know others that have had it done, and it is fairly standard, and like most modern medical procedures, the new techniques are great. I had this done when I was a kid (in the '60s), and it was a nightmare.

re: #161 rawmuse

From the Link, there is money flying around everywhere, on both sides of the aisle, and because of that I don't think is even a story, except as one of generalized corruption.

This BS needs to change...period. I don't care what their party affiliation is.

re: #62 Typicalwhitey

DRUDGE has linked the "Obama tried to stall GI's Iraqi withdrawal"

woot

Has everyone seen the photo on Drudge below that heading?

Big Brother is Watching You!

oh ,no ..Lindsay Lohan has put up a Myspace posting condemning Gov. Palin.That's it ,we're sunk folks!

re: #244 Dahveed

Forget about Barack Obama for one second. Why is it that Christopher Dodd always seems to be in the middle of almost anything that goes wrong?

Now back to Barack 0bama...

Only because Charlie Rangle isn't always avaliable?

re: #170 David Simon

No I don't have evidence and it may not be a practice any more. Years ago, people would get thank you letters for their contribution --which they had never made. Meaning their name was used.

When enough disclosed that, SOME campaigns stopped automatically sending out thank you's for small contributions.

Of course it is a violation. There was little that COULD be done before because the persons who names were attached to contributions had no way of knowing UNLESS they got a thank you for their contribution. With the internet and with contributions on line --and individual CAN go and look up their name so it may not be a practice used anymore.

But it certainly was done before the internet. And it can still be done to some degree now because only contributions over a certain amount have to have a name, address and occupation.

So, a single large contribution could be listed as "cash contributions from fundraiser" type thing. Meaning all less than the $250 that requires information.

I was not making a charge that they did that and I should have been clearer in saying that.

re: #226 Son of the Black Dog

I presume that it would be possible to write a PC application that would produce randomized names, addresses, and places of employment to make a continuous stream of small dollar (i.e., unreportable) campaign contributions.

I think it was Redstate (?) that posted the actual Obama campaign listings of the very same, pages of names on the rolls, all of them donating 10-20 bucks every few hours.

re: #147 Bill Dalasio

* * * *
Yes, Bill Delasio, this is a great post! Thank you for concise reporting.

re: #239 buzzsawmonkey

The quality of the pizza, I always thought.

Well, that never hurt. :-)

/It sure as hell wasn't the climate.

re: #249 mahatma coat

Oh yeah, I am really worried about people who take advice from LL. ;)

re: #122 Nancy

YEs and no. Since federal contributions are limited to only so much, what they do is use employees NAMES. Sometimes with their permission and sometimes NOT.

While there might be some employees that have actually contributed their own money, more often than not they are reimbursed and/or it isn't their money in the first place. Just their name for the record. That's how they often bundle small contributions.

You mean like contributions from minimum wage Chinese dishwashers?

re: #249 mahatma coat

oh ,no ..Lindsay Lohan has put up a Myspace posting condemning Gov. Palin.That's it ,we're sunk folks!

Lindsey Lohan, hmmm. Say, doesn't she invest heavily in silicone?

re: #244 Dahveed

Forget about Barack Obama for one second. Why is it that Christopher Dodd always seems to be in the middle of almost anything that goes wrong?

Now back to Barack 0bama...

Sometime the waitress is in the middle......

now back to ethics.

re: #240 gop_patriot

OT

Biden To Get Tough On McCain in Michigan

Oh brother. Still running against Bush. Wasn't Biden one of the guys calling McCain a maverick in the past?

I knew it! I always knew that his :"Dear Friends " in the Democrat Party would turn on him. I hope that gets it now.

re: #223 JCM

I never quite understood liberal understand of money. When it comes to spending the supply is infinite. When it comes to earning, the pool is finite.

Because the liberal slogan for money is,
"The government can spend all we want; we'll make (print) more."
And then they wonder why inflation get so large.

Look at the way they think a tax on oil companies will lower gasoline prices.

re: #249 mahatma coat

oh ,no ..Lindsay Lohan has put up a Myspace posting condemning Gov. Palin.That's it ,we're sunk folks!

...and guess what will take up the space above the fold in the MSM tonight...

/no - I'm dead serious just watch it happen.

re: #217 lifeofthemind

McCain says will overhaul financial regulations. Glad he isn't letting this fester. The response time of the McCain campaign is generally impressive.

However - they really need to take their gloves off now and hammer at the financial contributions by those banks to the B0 campaign.
The MSM won't do it - and as has been shown by the many links put here by various Lizards, this would not be smearing, it would be using hard facts.

(I do hope the McCain campaign emply a full-time LGF reader ...!)