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Science | Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:16:33 pm PDT

The old workhorse LGF referrers page has a new stripey table look, and new tools behind the curtain to help control referrer spam.

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1 neocon hippie  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:17:57pm

Looks great. Lots of boortz.com today.

2 Caliredst8r  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:20:24pm

Al Gore's new boat! Do as I say, not as I do, beyotch!

3 Thanos  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:21:31pm

Looks nice, but we prefer photos Charles. You really shouldn't post all these tech topics, we would rather talk about supertankers and beaches.

///

4 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:23:36pm
Referrer Page Makeover

"You can put lipstick on a Referrer Page, but it's still a Referrer Page."

-The One

5 JCM  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:26:40pm

re: #2 Caliredst8r

Al Gore's new boat! Do as I say, not as I do, beyotch!

He's got nothing on Tiger.....
;-P

6 JCM  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:27:56pm

re: #3 Thanos

Looks nice, but we prefer photos Charles. You really shouldn't post all these tech topics, we would rather talk about supertankers and beaches.

///

Beaches!

7 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:28:03pm

re: #2 Caliredst8r

I get a picture of Rodney rammin' the dock at the Yacht Club even before I look at Al Gore's bloated extravagance.

8 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:28:14pm

Is the referrer page the page I was at before I arrived at LGF?

9 Syrah  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:29:07pm

Re-posted from the other thread. (I thought I was here.)

McCain takes lead on Intrade.

It is very easy to offer an opinion to a pollster, but it is something else entirely to be willing to put money on it.

10 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:29:40pm

Charles - can you apply your fabulous makeover skillz to some balance sheets on Wall Street?

11 stevieray  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:29:52pm

Hmm. I didn't even know it existed.

12 Caliredst8r  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:31:38pm

re: #5 JCM

Nice! Is that the Varyag? I've wondered what ultimately happened to it.

13 Thanos  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:32:49pm

re: #8 experiencedtraveller

Is the referrer page the page I was at before I arrived at LGF?

Yes, it's the page the link was on that sent you to LGF.

14 JCM  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:33:27pm

re: #12 Caliredst8r

Nice! Is that the Varyag? I've wondered what ultimately happened to it.

Copacabana said the tag.....

15 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:35:19pm

re: #9 Syrah

Re-posted from the other thread. (I thought I was here.)

McCain takes lead on Intrade.

It is very easy to offer an opinion to a pollster, but it is something else entirely to be willing to put money on it.

He's been ahead for about a week now. About a month ago he was way down.

16 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:36:26pm

OBAMA ONLY AHEAD 5 POINTS IN NEW YORK STATE -- AMAZING AND UNPRECENDENTED. MCCAIN HAS A CHANCE HERE!

17 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:36:58pm

New York State is officially a swing state!

18 Cognito  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:37:04pm

re: #8 experiencedtraveller

Is the referrer page the page I was at before I arrived at LGF?

The Referrer Page was dark, and void. And lo, the spirit moved across the surface of the page, and breathed life into the new account.

And a voice spake: "Hey. This is pretty cool."

19 JCM  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:38:33pm

The RCP Toss Up Map looks better all the time.
McCain 227, 172 solid.
Obama 207, 157 solid.
104 toss up.

20 LesLein  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:38:40pm

According to Hitchens, Obama may be right about something:

Recent accounts of murderous violence in the capital cities of two of our allies, India and Afghanistan, make it appear overwhelmingly probable that the bombs were not the work of local or homegrown "insurgents" but were orchestrated by agents of the Pakistani ISI. This is a fantastically unacceptable state of affairs, which needs to be given its right name of state-sponsored terrorism. Meanwhile, and on Pakistani soil and under the very noses of its army and the ISI, the city of Quetta and the so-called Federally Administered Tribal Areas are becoming the incubating ground of a reorganized and protected al-Qaida. Sen. Barack Obama has, if anything, been the more militant of the two presidential candidates in stressing the danger here and the need to act without too much sentiment about our so-called Islamabad ally. He began using this rhetoric when it was much simpler to counterpose the "good" war in Afghanistan with the "bad" one in Iraq. Never mind that now; he is committed in advance to a serious projection of American power into the heartland of our deadliest enemy. And that, I think, is another reason why so many people are reluctant to employ truthful descriptions for the emerging Afghan-Pakistan confrontation: American liberals can't quite face the fact that if their man does win in November, and if he has meant a single serious word he's ever said, it means more war, and more bitter and protracted war at that—not less.

[Link: www.slate.com...]

21 Syrah  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:38:57pm

re: #15 JammieWearingFool

He's been ahead for about a week now. About a month ago he was way down.

22 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:39:04pm

re: #17 Globular Cluster

New York State is officially a swing state!

The funny thing is they aren't spending a nickel in New York State and have no offices or organization.

It's only three over here in Jersey.

If it stays this close in northeastern states it'll be a blowout.

23 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:39:12pm

OK I really feel that Sarah needs a new stump speech. Since we all seem to always be way ahead the curve here, why don't we write her some good stuff if the McCain camp has picked up on that yet. Any suggestions?

24 VMA211Dan  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:39:39pm

re: #16 Globular Cluster

OBAMA ONLY AHEAD 5 POINTS IN NEW YORK STATE -- AMAZING AND UNPRECENDENTED. MCCAIN HAS A CHANCE HERE!

McCain came out with new strategy in California, thinking he might win there. Maybe its gonna be a landslide.

25 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:41:02pm

re: #22 JammieWearingFool

The funny thing is they aren't spending a nickel in New York State and have no offices or organization.

It's only three over here in Jersey.

If it stays this close in northeastern states it'll be a blowout.

Maybe NJ is in play, but I really doubt NY is. But if it makes them spend time and or money in NY so much the better.

26 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:41:42pm

re: #19 JCM

The RCP Toss Up Map looks better all the time.
McCain 227, 172 solid.
Obama 207, 157 solid.
104 toss up.

Only 11 states considered solid for Obama, and his lead is dwindling in a number of them.

27 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:43:23pm

re: #25 Nevergiveup

Maybe NJ is in play, but I really doubt NY is. But if it makes them spend time and or money in NY so much the better.

It was 18 points two months ago and is five today. A nice trend. McCain may not win there, but if he forces Obama to start spending resources in what should be safe states, then he's in deep shit.

28 brickthruplateglasswindow  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:43:24pm

re: #24 VMA211Dan

McCain came out with new strategy in California, thinking he might win there. Maybe its gonna be a landslide.

That would do a great deal to restore my faith that almost 1/2 of the body politic isn't habitually using crack.

29 Syrah  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:44:05pm

re: #15 JammieWearingFool

He's been ahead for about a week now. About a month ago he was way down.

I like good news.

30 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:44:16pm

re: #22 JammieWearingFool

The funny thing is they aren't spending a nickel in New York State and have no offices or organization.

Which "they" do you mean? McCain or Obama?

(Unless you mean Them!)

31 VMA211Dan  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:44:18pm

re: #25 Nevergiveup

Maybe NJ is in play, but I really doubt NY is. But if it makes them spend time and or money in NY so much the better.


NY is like PA. Outside of big cities, people are hillbilly like me.Southern OH. I've met many. Same as the rest of us.

32 JCM  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:45:14pm

re: #26 JammieWearingFool

Only 11 states considered solid for Obama, and his lead is dwindling in a number of them.

Trends are all good, 50 days to go!

33 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:45:16pm

re: #28 brickthruplateglasswindow

That would do a great deal to restore my faith that almost 1/2 of the body politic isn't habitually using crack.

Any jurisidiction that doesn't have a lot of crackheads isn't even worth talking about.

/The P. Diddy rule of political relevance

34 VMA211Dan  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:46:21pm

re: #33 Occasional Reader

Any jurisidiction that doesn't have a lot of crackheads isn't even worth talking about.

/The P. Diddy rule of political relevance


Crackheads don't vote. Sleeping in.

35 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:46:29pm

re: #27 JammieWearingFool

It was 18 points two months ago and is five today. A nice trend. McCain may not win there, but if he forces Obama to start spending resources in what should be safe states, then he's in deep shit.

I was saying earlier in the day that I think four years ago that I thought Bush had pulled within single digits of Kerry but ultimately ended up getting blown out by 18 19 points in NY. I think that is kinda accurate. Do you remember? Of course this time we do have the Ton Bradley Factor to consider. We shall see?

36 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:46:32pm

One thing about that RCP map JCM put up: You can click on each state and change it to whatever you want. I have McCain now with 538 electoral votes.

37 VMA211Dan  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:48:49pm

re: #36 JammieWearingFool

One thing about that RCP map JCM put up: You can click on each state and change it to whatever you want. I have McCain now with 538 electoral votes.


I don't know why but I'm laughing my ass off. Call it election fatigue. But that made me laugh hard.

38 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:49:00pm

re: #31 VMA211Dan

NY is like PA. Outside of big cities, people are hillbilly like me.Southern OH. I've met many. Same as the rest of us.

Yes and no. Upstate NY kinda, but NYC is so big and the Long Island suburbs are not always predictable. Plus the Unions. You really would have to rally Upstate NY.

39 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:50:31pm

re: #30 Occasional Reader

Which "they" do you mean? McCain or Obama?

(Unless you mean Them!)

McCain's people. There was an item in the Post today.

McCain's surge in New York polling comes at a time when his national operatives have rebuffed requests from New York campaign chairman Ed Cox, a Manhattan lawyer and son-in-law to former President Richard Nixon, to spend some serious campaign money in the state.

"Ed was told, 'You have no money for a campaign here, so why should we spend any?' " a nationally known Republican operative told The Post.

"The McCain people think of Ed as a nice guy, but there's no money for an organization in New York, so they ask, 'Why go in?' " the GOP operative continued.

The Republican operative, meanwhile, sounded downright gleeful about the political fallout from US Rep. Charles Rangel's failure to pay income taxes from the rental of his luxurious villa in the Dominican Republic.

"Rangel has turned into a big liability for the Democrats, and his troubles are playing into the 'anti- politician' mood around the country," he said.

I guess I should reiterate they're talking serious money, so I'll assume they're spending some cash, but likely not much.

40 neocon hippie  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:50:48pm

re: #24 VMA211Dan

McCain came out with new strategy in California, thinking he might win there. Maybe its gonna be a landslide.

Californ-eye-ay is in play? Very hard to believe.

41 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:52:50pm

re: #39 JammieWearingFool

I guess I should reiterate they're talking serious money, so I'll assume they're spending some cash, but likely not much.

Well maybe they can kinda package a NJ/NY TV slot. If it looks like the 2 states are really in play, you may see a trip or 2 by Palin/ McCain. I'd go see Sarah and I NEVER go to these things.

42 VMA211Dan  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:54:10pm

re: #38 Nevergiveup

Yes and no. Upstate NY kinda, but NYC is so big and the Long Island suburbs are not always predictable. Plus the Unions. You really would have to rally Upstate NY.


I hear you about the unions. I can't believe that hard working blue collar, hunters, cling to guns, cling to their families, love America, would listen to some moron union steward. Unions only care about the union, not their members, not their country. Some union members follow the line. I don't get it.

43 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:54:32pm
44 akak  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:55:57pm
Report: Mashaal's secretary assassinated in Syria


Syrian opposition party claims head secretary for Hamas' political leader was dragged from his car and shot dead four days ago; earlier Syria warned Palestinian leaders in country that Israel may be targeting them

/the question! how do we celebrate such good news?

45 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:56:15pm

re: #18 Cognito

No referrers from Little Green Cheerleading tho! (safe...)

46 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:56:37pm

re: #39 JammieWearingFool

(Unless you mean Them!)

McCain's people.

MCCAIN'S CAMPAIGN IS STAFFED WITH GIANT IRRADIATED ANTS?!

CALL THE HUFFINGTON POST!

47 nikis-knight  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:58:31pm

(abc news blog via NRO):

Since the Delaware senator left Obama's side and ventured out on his own on Labor Day, he has hardly garnered any national media interest at all.

His plane, a blue chartered 737, now crosses the country with about three-quarters of its seats empty, rows and rows with nary a warm body to be found.


Sen Biden has got to be hitting the bottle pretty heavily these days, and that's before the bill to neutralize his carbon footprint comes in.

48 Racer X  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:58:43pm

I sure wish Karl Rove would stop giving good advice to Obama's campaign.

49 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 4:59:19pm

re: #42 VMA211Dan

I hear you about the unions. I can't believe that hard working blue collar, hunters, cling to guns, cling to their families, love America, would listen to some moron union steward. Unions only care about the union, not their members, not their country. Some union members follow the line. I don't get it.

I had a union member in my chair the other day. I really nice guy. I have known him for over 20 years. And he is voting for Obama. When he said that, as I was doing a Root Canal on him, my assistant ( who is as conservative as I am ) and I made eye contact, we both were thinking the same thing. I still treated him with all the skills I posses ( and I am pretty good ) but I did charge him 50$ more. Go Sarah!

50 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:01:29pm
51 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:02:55pm

re: #50 buzzsawmonkey

Drill, baby, drill.

"What do you think of McCain's lead in the polls? Is it safe?"

52 realwest  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:03:31pm

Hey y'all - sorry for the drive-by OT Post, but if anyone (especially Lady Lizards) has had to have a bone density scan, could y'all e-mail me (nic is in blue) and let me know what's involved?
Thanks and we now return you to your regularly scheduled thread!

53 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:03:34pm
54 livefreeor die  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:04:01pm

re: #48 Racer X

I sure wish Karl Rove would stop giving good advice to Obama's campaign.

Ditto. The smears Palin and McCain have put up with are incredible and then McCain is the one running a nasty campaign. Unfricking believable.

55 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:04:06pm
56 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:04:23pm

re: #49 Nevergiveup

I had a union member in my chair the other day. I really nice guy. I have known him for over 20 years. And he is voting for Obama. When he said that, as I was doing a Root Canal on him, my assistant ( who is as conservative as I am ) and I made eye contact, we both were thinking the same thing. I still treated him with all the skills I posses ( and I am pretty good ) but I did charge him 50$ more. Go Sarah!

You can always contribute it to something conservative! I think its to late to contribute to McCain....

57 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:04:55pm

Is Hot Air down for anyone else?

58 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:05:05pm

re: #51 Occasional Reader

"What do you think of McCain's lead in the polls? Is it safe?"

Brings tears to my eyes.

59 livefreeor die  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:05:06pm

re: #20 LesLein

According to Hitchens, Obama may be right about something:

Recent accounts of murderous violence in the capital cities of two of our allies, India and Afghanistan, make it appear overwhelmingly probable that the bombs were not the work of local or homegrown "insurgents" but were orchestrated by agents of the Pakistani ISI. This is a fantastically unacceptable state of affairs, which needs to be given its right name of state-sponsored terrorism. Meanwhile, and on Pakistani soil and under the very noses of its army and the ISI, the city of Quetta and the so-called Federally Administered Tribal Areas are becoming the incubating ground of a reorganized and protected al-Qaida. Sen. Barack Obama has, if anything, been the more militant of the two presidential candidates in stressing the danger here and the need to act without too much sentiment about our so-called Islamabad ally. He began using this rhetoric when it was much simpler to counterpose the "good" war in Afghanistan with the "bad" one in Iraq. Never mind that now; he is committed in advance to a serious projection of American power into the heartland of our deadliest enemy. And that, I think, is another reason why so many people are reluctant to employ truthful descriptions for the emerging Afghan-Pakistan confrontation: American liberals can't quite face the fact that if their man does win in November, and if he has meant a single serious word he's ever said, it means more war, and more bitter and protracted war at that—not less.

[Link: www.slate.com...]


Well, even a blind squirrel...

60 christheprofessor  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:05:07pm

re: #49 Nevergiveup

I had a union member in my chair the other day. I really nice guy. I have known him for over 20 years. And he is voting for Obama. When he said that, as I was doing a Root Canal on him, my assistant ( who is as conservative as I am ) and I made eye contact, we both were thinking the same thing. I still treated him with all the skills I posses ( and I am pretty good ) but I did charge him 50$ more. Go Sarah!

Understandable, but that won't even begin to cover the cost of an Obama presidency...

61 livefreeor die  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:05:23pm

re: #57 Fat Jolly Penguin

Is Hot Air down for anyone else?

Yep.

62 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:05:56pm

re: #57 Fat Jolly Penguin

Is Hot Air down for anyone else?

Yes its down for me also.

63 JCM  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:06:35pm

re: #49 Nevergiveup

I had a union member in my chair the other day. I really nice guy. I have known him for over 20 years. And he is voting for Obama. When he said that, as I was doing a Root Canal on him, my assistant ( who is as conservative as I am ) and I made eye contact, we both were thinking the same thing. I still treated him with all the skills I posses ( and I am pretty good ) but I did charge him 50$ more. Go Sarah!

You didn't go Dr. Szell on him? I admire your forbearance!

64 Intrepid  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:06:50pm

re: #57 Fat Jolly Penguin

Is Hot Air down for anyone else?

Yes - I was just about to ask the same thing. It won't refresh, and when I tried to google it, I just cannot get in.

Wonder what's up?

65 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:08:17pm

re: #56 loflyer

You can always contribute it to something conservative! I think its to late to contribute to McCain....

I gave, give and will give plenty to the RJC ( Republican Jewish Coalition). How do you think I raise the loot? A surcharge for all the liberals I treat who defame my President and My Country, and Sarah.

66 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:08:47pm

re: #41 Nevergiveup

Well maybe they can kinda package a NJ/NY TV slot. If it looks like the 2 states are really in play, you may see a trip or 2 by Palin/ McCain. I'd go see Sarah and I NEVER go to these things.

I used to do a lot of campaigning and attended fundraisers and rallies and the like back in the early to mid-90s. Attended several elder Bush functions when he ran against Clinton and even though NJ was more or less a lost cause, he did show up here frequently. I imagine McCain will show up and he has Rudy to campaign for him as well.

Palin is in high demand everywhere. They need to maximize her popularity while she's still red hot nationally. Heck, airdrop her into Giants Stadium and I'll show up.

67 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:08:47pm

re: #60 christheprofessor

Understandable, but that won't even begin to cover the cost of an Obama presidency...

I am trying to prevent that.

68 VMA211Dan  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:09:11pm

re: #57 Fat Jolly Penguin

Is Hot Air down for anyone else?


I like Hotair. One of the first sites I hit when I get online. Good info, but not completely in the tank for McCain(Allahpundit).

69 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:09:23pm

re: #57 Fat Jolly Penguin

Is Hot Air down for anyone else?

Haven't been able to get in for awhile.

70 opnion  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:09:25pm

re: #42 VMA211Dan

I hear you about the unions. I can't believe that hard working blue collar, hunters, cling to guns, cling to their families, love America, would listen to some moron union steward. Unions only care about the union, not their members, not their country. Some union members follow the line. I don't get it.


Part of the problem for Union leaders is that they can't control the vote of the members.
A lot are vets & have kids in the military. Their values really are not in sync with Liberals.
The Palins may be the new model, pro-union Conservatives Republicans , who do not want to destroy business.

71 Archimedes  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:09:30pm

Just as I suspected, Sarah Palin deliberately down plays her looks:

[Link: www.thesun.co.uk...]

We worked on putting her hair up in a move to TONE DOWN her sexy image and make her seem taller.

“We would talk a lot about how if she looked too pretty or too sexy, people wouldn’t listen to her.”

The idea is to be more professional looking, although I'd prefer it if she didn't. :)

72 christheprofessor  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:10:49pm

re: #67 Nevergiveup

I am trying to prevent that.

I'll drink to that! /drink!

//that's what we are all trying to do, btw...

73 x-wing  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:11:36pm

re: #57 Fat Jolly Penguin

Yeah, I hit refresh about a half hour ago and got the error.

74 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:12:16pm

re: #72 christheprofessor

I'll drink to that! /drink!

//that's what we are all trying to do, btw...

I've been drinking since the first inning of the Yankee game. Just waiting for Jeter to get his next hit so I can switch to the Football Game.

75 looking closely  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:13:13pm

re: #20 LesLein
But does anyone seriously think Obama is got the stones to escalate the war in Afghanistan? This is the guy who said he wanted to get rid of all our nukes, and severely curtail military development and spending.

Like everything else Obama says its empty rhetoric. He's pushing the Afghanistan theater now because we're not clearly winning there, and its a way to focus attention away from the war we ARE winning (that he was against all along).

More important, no matter WHAT the rhetoric, does anyone REALLY think that Obama would prosecute a war in Afghanistan (or anywhere else on the planet, for that matter), better than Naval academy grad/ fighter pilot John McCain would?

76 VMA211Dan  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:14:03pm

re: #71 Archimedes

Just as I suspected, Sarah Palin deliberately down plays her looks:

[Link: www.thesun.co.uk...]


The idea is to be more professional looking, although I'd prefer it if she didn't. :)


OMG! She's got great legs. Too late to move to AK now I guess.

77 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:14:04pm

re: #66 JammieWearingFool

I used to do a lot of campaigning and attended fundraisers and rallies and the like back in the early to mid-90s. Attended several elder Bush functions when he ran against Clinton and even though NJ was more or less a lost cause, he did show up here frequently. I imagine McCain will show up and he has Rudy to campaign for him as well.

Palin is in high demand everywhere. They need to maximize her popularity while she's still red hot nationally. Heck, airdrop her into Giants Stadium and I'll show up.

That would be something. Maybe we could even have lizards meeting before or after.

78 JCM  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:15:26pm

Gotta run.......

I leave you all to chew on this.

Bad voter applications found
Clerks see fraudulent, duplicate forms from group

Several municipal clerks across the state are reporting fraudulent and duplicate voter registration applications, most of them from a nationwide community activist group working to help low- and moderate-income families.
Advertisement

The majority of the problem applications are coming from the group ACORN, Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, which has a large voter registration program among its many social service programs. ACORN's Michigan branch, based in Detroit, has enrolled 200,000 voters statewide in recent months, mostly with the use of paid, part-time employees.

"There appears to be a sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent applications," said Kelly Chesney, spokeswoman for the Michigan Secretary of State's Office. "And it


Waiting for MSM to ask about his former community organizing groups activities.

79 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:15:34pm

re: #76 VMA211Dan

OMG! She's got great legs. Too late to move to AK now I guess.

And for me at least, I was never into blonds.

80 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:15:49pm

re: #65 Nevergiveup

I gave, give and will give plenty to the RJC ( Republican Jewish Coalition). How do you think I raise the loot? A surcharge for all the liberals I treat who defame my President and My Country, and Sarah.

You go! Just one more reasons not to discuss politics with my Dentist. He is black and probably voting Obama.

81 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:16:06pm

re: #75 looking closely

Like everything else Obama says its empty rhetoric.

Yep. Democrats are in favor of fighting wherever we don't happen to be fighting, unless and until we begin fighting there. Then, it's a quagmire, and a war crime.

82 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:17:16pm

hi ya lizards!
I just watched the TO interview on ESPN..I am stunned..as was everyone in the studio..In a team sport every sentence TO started with was 'I'
In this election Obama who fancy himself a super star talks alot about himself..'me' me' 'I' I'..
McCain..a Hero.. Talks about America...Reform for americans..
Who is going to win..mmm I'm thinking america..and all of us that really care about america.

83 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:17:40pm

re: #81 Occasional Reader

Yep. Democrats are in favor of fighting wherever we don't happen to be fighting, unless and until we begin fighting there. Then, it's a quagmire, and a war crime.

The only people the Democrats are interested in fighting and attacking are Republicans. Our enemies they'd rather capitulate to.

84 bj1126  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:18:08pm

Is it possible to ad a time stamp to that? I'd be curious to see it.

85 christheprofessor  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:20:07pm

re: #75 looking closely

Probably been posted before, but Obama tried his own October Surprise, undercutting American foreign policy and screwing the troops...

86 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:20:55pm

re: #80 loflyer

You go! Just one more reasons not to discuss politics with my Dentist. He is black and probably voting Obama.

What amazes me are the people who know I am
1) In the Navy
2) A conservative
3) A Zionist
4) A tad to the right of GHENGIS KHAN

And then spout Liberal bull shit right before I am about to give them a shot, drill, or do surgery? WTF?

87 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:20:58pm

re: #82 HoosierHoops

hi ya lizards!
I just watched the TO interview on ESPN..I am stunned..as was everyone in the studio..In a team sport every sentence TO started with was 'I'
In this election Obama who fancy himself a super star talks alot about himself..'me' me' 'I' I'..
McCain..a Hero.. Talks about America...Reform for americans..
Who is going to win..mmm I'm thinking america..and all of us that really care about america.

Who is TO? I am not a huge sports fan except for my Beloved Georgia Bulldogs....

88 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:22:51pm

re: #82 HoosierHoops

You're surprised? Honey- TO is the ultimate diva.

89 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:24:02pm
90 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:24:39pm

re: #87 loflyer

Who is TO? I am not a huge sports fan except for my Beloved Georgia Bulldogs....

I love that reply..Terrell Owens may now be banging his head on the wall when he realized not everyone in the entire world doesn't know him..
I love it...
You won't find this in Wikki.. TO ranks as one of the most selfish and self centered athletes in our lifetime...
Regards..

91 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:24:47pm

re: #86 Nevergiveup

What amazes me are the people who know I am
1) In the Navy
2) A conservative
3) A Zionist
4) A tad to the right of GHENGIS KHAN

And then spout Liberal bull shit right before I am about to give them a shot, drill, or do surgery? WTF?

Just a tad to the right of GHENGIS KHAN? Good for you my ex will tell you I have a ruthless streak (and her new husband has stayed away from me). Too bad you aren't in metro-Atlanta, you would get my business!

92 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:25:54pm
93 jwb7605  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:27:03pm

OT: this link from Drudge.

If that happened on 24 September, I think Sarah Palin might be an even bigger asset to McCain than she is now.

Just being practical, call me sexist if you want.

94 christheprofessor  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:28:45pm

As much as I love the national anthem, it breaks my heart to see it butchered by Britney wannabes who sing out of Key, having on clue of the history involved...

I muted it...

95 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:29:41pm

re: #93 jwb7605

OT: this link from Drudge.

If that happened on 24 September, I think Sarah Palin might be an even bigger asset to McCain than she is now.

Just being practical, call me sexist if you want.

Is that the correct link?

96 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:30:31pm

re: #86 Nevergiveup

If I perform eloquent renditions of Ronald Reagan speeches in the waiting room do I get free dental care?

97 christheprofessor  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:30:35pm

re: #94 christheprofessor

As much as I love the national anthem, it breaks my heart to see it butchered by Britney wannabes who sing out of Key, having on clue of the history involved...

I muted it...

Should have mentioned -- this was at the start of the Dallas/Philly game...

98 Alouette  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:31:30pm

re: #93 jwb7605

OT: this link from Drudge.

If that happened on 24 September, I think Sarah Palin might be an even bigger asset to McCain than she is now.

Just being practical, call me sexist if you want.

I don't get it. This thing you link to has nothing in common with Sarah Palin other than a vagina.

99 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:31:33pm

re: #94 christheprofessor

As much as I love the national anthem, it breaks my heart to see it butchered by Britney wannabes who sing out of Key, having on clue of the history involved...

I muted it...

LOL
It has got to be a tough job..I know 2 friends that have done it..one with the colts..Not easy..
I say stick to the shower..it sounds better.. :)
Hey prof..good evening

100 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:32:14pm

re: #97 christheprofessor

Should have mentioned -- this was at the start of the Dallas/Philly game...

I know what you mean, but many times they give it all they have, and sounds great!

101 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:32:26pm

re: #92 buzzsawmonkey

BTW, about that "to the right of Genghis Khan" thing...is it or is it not true that you have a pyramid of skulls outside your office?

I started out life as a Liberal, but after doing a residency in Newark NJ and a few Trips to Israel, I grew up. As a matter of fact I can't find that skull I had. If i ever find out who stole it?

102 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:33:44pm

re: #96 experiencedtraveller

If I perform eloquent renditions of Ronald Reagan speeches in the waiting room do I get free dental care?

Maybe, but I do give a nice discount to anyone with Military ID.

103 kevinmumaw  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:35:08pm

Just saw a clever phrase:

"John Gatti was a community organizer, Teddy Roosevelt was a governor."

Pardon me if this is old...I've been away.

104 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:35:14pm

re: #102 Nevergiveup

Maybe, but I do give a nice discount to anyone with Military ID.

And with that hint I probably came to close to giving away my identity.

105 jwb7605  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:35:42pm

re: #98 Alouette

I don't get it. This thing you link to has nothing in common with Sarah Palin other than a vagina.

I recall several discussions on Sarah Palin and Israel including contractual agreements between the State of Alaska and Israel which Palin allegedly was instrumental in getting.
I would not be the least bit surprised if the two "at least knew of each other".

106 christheprofessor  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:36:00pm

re: #99 HoosierHoops

I know what you mean, but many times they give it all they have, and sounds great!

Good evening backatcha!

re: #100 loflyer

Agreed, and it's great then! But that one was kinda lame. She is only 20 years old and focusing on the camera (the video rather than the audio)...

107 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:36:12pm

re: #103 kevinmumaw

Just saw a clever phrase:

"John Gatti was a community organizer, Teddy Roosevelt was a governor."

Pardon me if this is old...I've been away.

So was John Gotti?

108 kevinmumaw  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:36:57pm

re: #107 Nevergiveup

hehe...took me a second

109 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:37:16pm
110 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:38:23pm

re: #108 kevinmumaw

hehe...took me a second

I misspelled Brian as Brain last week. Was I raked over the coals.

111 Alouette  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:39:57pm

re: #105 jwb7605

I recall several discussions on Sarah Palin and Israel including contractual agreements between the State of Alaska and Israel which Palin allegedly was instrumental in getting.
I would not be the least bit surprised if the two "at least knew of each other".

Tzipi Livni would make a crap PM. She is Olmert in a dress pantsuit.

112 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:40:21pm

re: #109 buzzsawmonkey

Regarding your residency in Newark...

In my old synagogue, the most dyed in the wool liberals were the people who lived in the whitest sections of the neighborhood. People from these areas told me that they wouldn't dare shop in broad daylight on the street I lived on for fear of the "rougher element."

It was a forceful education in the fact that people who adhere to "liberal" views live in a self-imposed bubble, and that their reality is in fact a fantasyland.

The old limousine Liberals. Know them well. And their close relatives, the members of the 'Golden Sperm" club.

113 christheprofessor  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:41:35pm

re: #110 Nevergiveup

I misspelled Brian as Brain last week. Was I raked over the coals.

Well, that was a brian-dead thing to do...

114 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:42:00pm

re: #111 Alouette

Tzipi Livni would make a crap PM. She is Olmert in a dress pantsuit.

I hope your wrong since so much depends on it, but I am afraid your very perceptive.

115 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:43:10pm

re: #113 christheprofessor

Well, that was a brian-dead thing to do...

The problem is spell checker doesn't catch the mistake.

116 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:43:44pm

"Brian, brian, what is brian?!"

-ST:TOS, "Spock's Brian"

(Later.)

117 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:43:46pm

re: #110 Nevergiveup

I misspelled Brian as Brain last week. Was I raked over the coals.

NO NO NO NO NO! You MISTYPED, not misspelled! I plead guilty to typos, but I NEVER misspell!

118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:44:04pm

So...another new thingy. I am impress.

119 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:44:20pm

re: #117 goddessoftheclassroom

NO NO NO NO NO! You MISTYPED, not misspelled! I plead guilty to typos, but I NEVER misspell!

OK yeah that's the ticket.

120 christheprofessor  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:45:10pm

re: #115 Nevergiveup

Welcome to my world -- I've been telling students for years that they need to proofread their papers, as it is possible (indeed, likely) that they will misspell one world into the correcto spelling of another...

/not an issue in blog posts, of course -- I do it all the time!

121 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:45:14pm

I'm hearing disconcerting rumors that McCain is planning to endorse the so-called Gang of 10 16 20 energy legislation. That would be a huge mistake. In terms of its effect on the conservative base, supporting the Gang of 20's energy bill would be like McCain pouring a big bucket of cold water on the fire he started with the Palin pick.

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

McCain being McCain?

122 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:45:20pm

re: #117 goddessoftheclassroom

NO NO NO NO NO! You MISTYPED, not misspelled! I plead guilty to typos, but I NEVER misspell!

I remember the spell check.. But It's the idiot check i keep forgetting about

123 stevieray  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:46:06pm

I remember Brian Brain.

"Drive Drive"

"Fun With Music"

The lead singer/percussionist was Martin Atkins, formerly of PIL.

124 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:46:18pm

re: #117 goddessoftheclassroom

NO NO NO NO NO! You MISTYPED, not misspelled! I plead guilty to typos, but I NEVER misspell!

Did that a week ago, and it took one of my co-workers to correct my mistake today. Doh! Fat-finger is my bane...

125 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:46:53pm

re: #110 Nevergiveup

I misspelled Brian as Brain last week. Was I raked over the coals.

The Life of Brain.

126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:47:19pm

re: #120 christheprofessor

Ya know, Christ...I was reading a college term paper of my son's (I had four years of Grammar I in High School) and made a few spelling corrections. Took me fifteen minutes to prove to him I was right.

Was blissful.

He's so much smarter than I am.

127 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:47:21pm

Looks like the Eagle Boys game is gonna be a barn burner.

128 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:48:29pm

re: #122 HoosierHoops

I remember the spell check.. But It's the idiot check i keep forgetting about

you looking for me?

129 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:49:15pm

re: #127 Nevergiveup

Got on my Number 12 Staubach jersey as we speak!

C'mon Boyz!

130 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:49:17pm

re: #126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ya know, Christ...I was reading a college term paper of my son's (I had four years of Grammar I in High School) and made a few spelling corrections. Took me fifteen minutes to prove to him I was right.

Was blissful.

He's so much smarter than I am.

there are doorknobs in my house smarter then I am !

131 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:49:37pm

re: #126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ya know, Christ...I was reading a college term paper of my son's (I had four years of Grammar I in High School) and made a few spelling corrections. Took me fifteen minutes to prove to him I was right.

Was blissful.

He's so much smarter than I am.

Sort of made your day, I bet. It wasn't till I was 25 that I realized my Dad was a pretty smart fellow. Not infallible, but not a dummy either...

132 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:49:47pm

re: #128 sattv4u2

you looking for me?

LOL
you working the game tonight?

133 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:50:07pm

re: #110 Nevergiveup

I misspelled Brian as Brain last week. Was I raked over the coals.

No- we were just having some fun! Laughter is good for the brian.

134 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:50:14pm

re: #124 loflyer

Did that a week ago, and it took one of my co-workers to correct my mistake today. Doh! Fat-finger is my bane...

I once mistyped "doe snot" for "does not" when I was the personal assistant to the Registrar of the University of Oxford.

Thank goodness he had eagle eyes and a sense of humor...

135 christheprofessor  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:50:16pm

re: #126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ya know, Christ...I was reading a college term paper of my son's (I had four years of Grammar I in High School) and made a few spelling corrections. Took me fifteen minutes to prove to him I was right.

Was blissful.

He's so much smarter than I am.

Well, I made the mistake of asking my chemist father for help on my homework in high school. Took him four hours to teach me that my chem teacher didn't know squat, and I learned more in that four hours (about chemistry) than I did in the entire year.

/btw, at 87, he still corrects my grammar if I speak incorrectly...

//here's to demanding parents! /DRINK!

136 Infidelle  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:51:21pm

Well, they've got Palin nailed now.....
The NYT lets us know that (gasp) careers were turned upside down while she was governor..
[Link: campaignspot.nationalreview.com...]
Seriously, how do they sleep at night?

137 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:51:25pm

re: #132 HoosierHoops

LOL
you working the game tonight?

yup ,,, just got off the phone with 5 different European countries plus Dubai and Iraq making sure they're getting it okay! Now, unless there's trouble with the transmission, I get to just sit back and watch (and blog)

138 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:52:07pm

re: #135 christheprofessor

Cheers!

139 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:52:16pm

re: #136 Infidelle

Well, they've got Palin nailed now.....
The NYT lets us know that (gasp) careers were turned upside down while she was governor..
[Link: campaignspot.nationalreview.com...]
Seriously, how do they sleep at night?

hanging upside down in a damp cave

140 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:52:47pm

re: #139 sattv4u2

hanging upside down in a damp cave

ROTFL!

141 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:52:48pm

They just said in the telecast of the Football game that tomorrow is Mexican Independence day? If they are so freak en Independent why can't they create JOBS for their own people and stop sending them over here!

142 christheprofessor  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:52:55pm

re: #134 goddessoftheclassroom

I once mistyped "doe snot" for "does not" when I was the personal assistant to the Registrar of the University of Oxford.

Thank goodness he had eagle eyes and a sense of humor...

Okay, so Bambi had a cold....

143 guzziguy  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:53:39pm

The Eskimo village I taught in a few years ago is featured in the latest Reader's Digest. Cool.

It's a goreball warming article, but, still cool.

Beach erosion. Looks like they're going to have to move the village soon. If the old guy that told me the story was correct, the move won't be for the first time. Naturally that wasn't mentioned. I was told that the settlement used to be at the north end of the island. It's not more that 50 or so yards wide up there now.

It was moved south years and years ago because of ..... beach erosion.

144 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:53:59pm

re: #134 goddessoftheclassroom

I once mistyped "doe snot" for "does not" when I was the personal assistant to the Registrar of the University of Oxford.

Thank goodness he had eagle eyes and a sense of humor...

Mine was not near as amusing, I had configured a network switch and had the "default gateway" set incorrectly. I looked at the config five times and didn't see the error. My co-worker picked it up on the first shot. (Bless you Natasha!)

145 gop_patriot  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:54:16pm

How do you flag a YouTube user/channel?

This guy (and the users/channels he subscribes to) does not need to have a forum there.

/I thought YouTube was cracking down on hate speech...

146 Infidelle  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:54:28pm

re: #139 sattv4u2
Yes, and by moonlight.

147 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:54:31pm

re: #134 goddessoftheclassroom

I once mistyped "doe snot" for "does not" when I was the personal assistant to the Registrar of the University of Oxford.

Thank goodness he had eagle eyes and a sense of humor...

Name dropper.

148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:54:42pm

DID YOU SEE THAT CATCH!

149 christheprofessor  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:54:48pm

Okay, I'm out -- you all have a wonderful evening!

150 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:55:37pm

re: #137 sattv4u2

yup ,,, just got off the phone with 5 different European countries plus Dubai and Iraq making sure they're getting it okay! Now, unless there's trouble with the transmission, I get to just sit back and watch (and blog)

That has got to be the coolest job in the world..
You like cowboys or eagles?

151 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:55:53pm
152 Cartman  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:56:00pm

re: #94 christheprofessor

As much as I love the national anthem, it breaks my heart to see it butchered by Britney wannabes who sing out of Key, having on clue of the history involved...

I muted it...

That twit got roundly booed by the Dallas faithful. I was kinda glad to see that. Horrible rendition.

153 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:56:01pm

Ace has a very interesting post up, I commented on the subject yesterday..

It's On: McCain Camp Demands Answers on Obama's Illegal Interference with US Foreign Policy

Yo Obama, ya'll just got served.. It's on!

154 SouthAmericanWay  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:56:25pm

OT:

Obama's treacherous negotiations with the Iraqi government will have to be examined by the Mainstream Media, now that the McCain campaign has publicly questioned The One's shady antics in Baghdad:

At this point, it is not yet clear what official American negotiations Senator Obama tried to undermine with Iraqi leaders, but the possibility of such actions is unprecedented. It should be concerning to all that he reportedly urged that the democratically-elected Iraqi government listen to him rather than the US administration in power. If news reports are accurate, this is an egregious act of political interference by a presidential candidate seeking political advantage overseas. Senator Obama needs to reveal what he said to Iraq's Foreign Minister during their closed door meeting. The charge that he sought to delay the withdrawal of Americans from Iraq raises serious questions about Senator Obama's judgment and it demands an explanation.

155 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:56:37pm

re: #135 christheprofessor

Well, I made the mistake of asking my chemist father for help on my homework in high school. Took him four hours to teach me that my chem teacher didn't know squat, and I learned more in that four hours (about chemistry) than I did in the entire year.

/btw, at 87, he still corrects my grammar if I speak incorrectly...

//here's to demanding parents! /DRINK!

/Cheers. My dad was a perfectionist. I believe that good now is a lot better than perfect later. It is nice to hear him compliment my brother and I on our work ethics.

156 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:57:13pm

TO is a real asshole but he can run and catch.

157 Cartman  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:57:17pm

Romo to T.O. - 72 yd. TD

158 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:58:03pm

re: #150 HoosierHoops

That has got to be the coolest job in the world..
You like cowboys or eagles?

Patriots and Giants. I was born and raised in Boston before the AFL. Most of New Englanders were Giants fans (closest geographical NFL team and thats the game that was usually sent to the Boston TV market) Then when the AFL came we had our OWN team, but because we and our fathers were brought up with the Giants, we still loved them

159 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:58:25pm

re: #156 Nevergiveup

TO is a real asshole but he can run and catch.

WOW!

160 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:59:18pm

re: #158 sattv4u2

Patriots and Giants. I was born and raised in Boston before the AFL. Most of New Englanders were Giants fans (closest geographical NFL team and thats the game that was usually sent to the Boston TV market) Then when the AFL came we had our OWN team, but because we and our fathers were brought up with the Giants, we still loved them

Babe Parreili? Lets see spell checker correct that one?

161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 5:59:54pm

re: #158 sattv4u2

Tiki and Ronde Barber went to my son's High School. They were special. You could see it then.

162 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:00:37pm

re: #161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Tiki and Ronde Barber went to my son's High School. They were special. You could see it then.

Tiki should have stayed with FOX

163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:00:44pm

Terrel flapping his arms like an Eagle on slo-mo. I'm guessing that's gonna hurt in a bit.

164 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:00:44pm

re: #153 Yankee Division Son

Ace has a very interesting post up, I commented on the subject yesterday..

It's On: McCain Camp Demands Answers on Obama's Illegal Interference with US Foreign Policy

Yo Obama, ya'll just got served.. It's on!

I hope McCain take this to the wall. Media has been slack on Obama for way to long. Perhaps Charles can make this item a thread? (hint,hint)

165 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:01:37pm

re: #164 loflyer

I hope McCain take this to the wall. Media has been slack on Obama for way to long. Perhaps Charles can make this item a thread? (hint,hint)

Mayber this is one they should let Sarah rip him a new one on?

166 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:02:00pm

re: #160 Nevergiveup

Babe Parreili? Lets see spell checker correct that one?

hehehehe,,, Houston Antoine, Nick Bounticontti, Gino Capelleitti

167 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:02:12pm

re: #158 sattv4u2

Patriots and Giants. I was born and raised in Boston before the AFL. Most of New Englanders were Giants fans (closest geographical NFL team and thats the game that was usually sent to the Boston TV market) Then when the AFL came we had our OWN team, but because we and our fathers were brought up with the Giants, we still loved them

Well let's do a Manning vs. Manning this year ok?
You know how much we love the Patriots around here..:)

168 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:03:26pm

re: #167 HoosierHoops

Well let's do a Manning vs. Manning this year ok?
You know how much we love the Patriots around here..:)

I'll settle for a Giants/ Patriots rematch (just with a different result this year)

169 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:03:41pm

re: #166 sattv4u2

hehehehe,,, Houston Antoine, Nick Bounticontti, Gino Capelleitti

It's just not coming to me, but who was that real big running back you guys had up there? I was a real big AFL fan. Joe Namath and the Jets after all.

170 vxbush  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:03:52pm

Good [insert time-appropriate greeting here], lizards. What have I missed tonight?

171 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:03:53pm

re: #165 Nevergiveup

Mayber this is one they should let Sarah rip him a new one on?

Is she a hockey Mom or a pitt-bull? only her lipstick knows!

172 Infidelle  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:03:55pm

re: #145 gop_patriot

You can just flag individual videos as offensive... I can't find a place to get any one user flagged.

173 Cartman  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:04:41pm

re: #165 Nevergiveup

Mayber this is one they should let Sarah rip him a new one on?

McCain can't ride the Palin wave forever. He's gotta step up to the plate. After all, he's the one running for POTUS, not Sarah.

174 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:04:55pm

re: #170 vxbush

Good [insert time-appropriate greeting here], lizards. What have I missed tonight?

Obama negotiated with the Iraqi's to slow down the troop pull out for political purposes...

175 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:06:42pm

re: #170 vxbush

Good [insert time-appropriate greeting here], lizards. What have I missed tonight?

Hi ya vmBush! kind regards...
I found a bug in Vista today..and not on purpose..Feeling pretty good.

176 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:08:46pm

re: #169 Nevergiveup

It's just not coming to me, but who was that real big running back you guys had up there? I was a real big AFL fan. Joe Namath and the Jets after all.

Jim Nance?

177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:08:49pm

I think T.O. just passed Chris Carter in Touchdown receptions. Second only to Jerry Rice.

Not sure I like that. Really respect Chris Carter.

Huge Cowboy fan, I only root for T.O. because he's a Cowboy.

Didn't say I respect him.

178 ArmyWife  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:08:52pm

re: #89 buzzsawmonkey

I'm looking for a VP - I announced my candidacy here a few days ago. Some other lizards did as well. We all appear to be very, very qualified as we noted we had done some community organizing. Someone here even made money with a community garage sale.

Need to go meet some heads of state - hey, I shock hands with W, does that count? I also shook hands with Bill Clinton, but I would prefer we keep that under wraps.

179 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:09:19pm

Perfect. A "drilling" bill which does not actually permit drilling

John McCain for President

We can't keep sending 700 billion a year to nations that don't like us very much... I boldly urge that from now on we only send them 698 billion. Now, my friends, that's some real maverick reform, really shaking up the system.

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

Say it ain't so John, Say it ain't so!

180 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:09:59pm

re: #175 HoosierHoops

Hi ya vmBush! kind regards...
I found a bug in Vista today..and not on purpose..Feeling pretty good.

You mean MS has a buggy OS? Vista also has wi-fi issues that MS has refused to resolve. Plus it requires twice the memory and faster CPU than for an XP operating system.

181 ArmyWife  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:10:08pm

Question for you all knowing types - Did Barry O meet with any heads of state prior to his candidacy and the Magical Mystery Tour?

182 Cartman  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:10:28pm

re: #170 vxbush

[Insert salutation here] to you, as well!

183 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:10:28pm

re: #177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think T.O. just passed Chris Carter in Touchdown receptions. Second only to Jerry Rice.

Not sure I like that. Really respect Chris Carter.

Huge Cowboy fan, I only root for T.O. because he's a Cowboy.

Didn't say I respect him.

I hear ya Veggie..We have dealt with that issue for several years..
Great basketball players that shoot up strip clubs at 3am...

184 mama winger  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:10:31pm

Ohio has a "golden week" - Sept 30 to Oct 6 - in which you can REGISTER AND VOTE all in the same day.

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

That means no 8 hour lines, no finding out you aren't registered and being stuck, no phony provisional ballots, etc. This is our chance to really GOTV before the other side goes into full gear with their SOTV campaigns (suppress out the vote).

But... we need help. Whatever you can give...people, cars, money, all of the above. And if you can't do any of those things, rec this diary and forward the message on. Details below.


There is a Democratic PUSH to use this opportunity and similar ones to sign up people and have them vote for Obama on the spot.

You know what to do. Go Ohio.

185 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:10:36pm

re: #176 sattv4u2

Jim Nance?

Maybe, but even before him , wasn't there another really big running back the patriots had? The Boston Patriots!

186 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:10:59pm
187 vxbush  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:11:02pm

re: #174 loflyer

Obama negotiated with the Iraqi's to slow down the troop pull out for political purposes...

How many MORE positions on Iraq can he take? Oh, wait: one for each day remaining in the election. Sigh. I really hope McCain does rip him on this, because it bespeaks such arrogance that it's breathtaking. This one is worthy for an ad in and of itself.

re: #175 HoosierHoops

Hi ya vmBush! kind regards...
I found a bug in Vista today..and not on purpose..Feeling pretty good.

Congratulations! You should feel proud, knowing that you're doing the job that Microsoft couldn't bring itself to do. (Although I will grant, Microsoft has a hard time making sure their software works with all the hardware that's out there.)

188 gop_patriot  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:11:42pm

re: #172 Infidelle

You can just flag individual videos as offensive... I can't find a place to get any one user flagged.

Thanks, that's what I thought. I'll email them or something.

189 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:12:17pm

re: #185 Nevergiveup

Maybe, but even before him , wasn't there another really big running back the patriots had? The Boston Patriots!

nope ,, Nance was mid 60-s thru early 70's ,,,, he was their 1st 'impact" big back

190 vxbush  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:12:34pm

re: #182 Cartman

[Insert salutation here] to you, as well!

Hey, {Cartman}! I never seem to be on when you are. How are you feeling, sir? I know you've had some medical issues in the recent past.

191 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:12:54pm

re: #185 Nevergiveup

[Link: www.patriots.com...]

192 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:13:16pm

re: #189 sattv4u2

nope ,, Nance was mid 60-s thru early 70's ,,,, he was their 1st 'impact" big back

I guess that was him. He was pretty good.

193 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:13:34pm

re: #184 mama winger

Ohio has a "golden week" - Sept 30 to Oct 6 - in which you can REGISTER AND VOTE all in the same day.

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]


There is a Democratic PUSH to use this opportunity and similar ones to sign up people and have them vote for Obama on the spot.

You know what to do. Go Ohio.

{mama winger}!

MWAH!

194 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:14:00pm

BBL, chores to fracken' do....

195 ArmyWife  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:14:54pm

re: #186 buzzsawmonkey

with the nuance factor I could see how he could claim this..

196 Cartman  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:15:00pm

re: #190 vxbush

I know! I'm not here much during the day. I'm feeling a lot better, and thank you for asking. How are things with you and the family, and with work?

197 Caboose  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:15:18pm

Time
(Mason, Waters, Wright, Gilmour) 7:06

Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
You fritter and waste the hours in an offhand way.
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way.

Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain.
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today.
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you.
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.

So you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again.
The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older,
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death.

Every year is getting shorter never seem to find the time.
Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
The time is gone, the song is over,
Thought I'd something more to say.

R.I.P. Richard (aka Rick) Wright, Pink Floyd keyboardist.

198 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:15:26pm

re: #192 Nevergiveup

I guess that was him. He was pretty good.

yes ,, their next big one was Sam'Bam" Cunningham. Played early to late 70's Played college at USC. Famous for being so big yet able to leap the pile into the end zone

199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:15:38pm

{Felix}
{mama}

Going to a bar to watch game. Just can't do it sitting in a hotel.

BBL!

200 vxbush  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:16:07pm

re: #193 goddessoftheclassroom

{mama winger}!

MWAH!

Hey, goddess! Did you get my email from last night? A special gift from me to you.

201 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:17:10pm

re: #198 sattv4u2

yes ,, their next big one was Sam'Bam" Cunningham. Played early to late 70's Played college at USC. Famous for being so big yet able to leap the pile into the end zone

Who was the QB then with Cunningham- Groogan?

202 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:17:46pm

re: #200 vxbush

Hey, goddess! Did you get my email from last night? A special gift from me to you.

ruh roh ,, last time someone said that to me I wound up taking peniciline for a month !

BAD SATT , BAD BAD BAD !

203 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:18:30pm

re: #180 loflyer

You mean MS has a buggy OS? Vista also has wi-fi issues that MS has refused to resolve. Plus it requires twice the memory and faster CPU than for an XP operating system.

oh i hear ya...
Re: WiFi: I think the trend has been towards native drivers for radio cards.. I'm not defending MS but it seems mfg'ers have been off loading thier responsibilities to support the native drivers for thier radio cards.
In some respects..working properly Vista is light years ahead of XP..for instance..in Vista you can have a screensaver of falling rain..not a static image like XP. But in other area's Vista should have taken it's time and waited a year in development..
anyhoo cowboys look good tonight..

204 vxbush  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:18:50pm

re: #196 Cartman

I know! I'm not here much during the day. I'm feeling a lot better, and thank you for asking. How are things with you and the family, and with work?

Hubby had rotator cuff surgery last month, which ended up just being the impingment type--open him up, make sure everything is open and clear, no real tendon or ligament work done. But that meant he couldn't throw the son around for toileting, baths, etc. So I had to take time off from work and do that plus get some help in to make sure I didn't collapse. He's doing great now; still doing therapy to get his muscles back up to speed.

We finally figured out some of my health issues and things are better than they were. I go in next week to see if the doctor agrees with me (heh), but I see good signs.

Work is crazy since I've been away. I'm getting back in to the office close to 30 hours a week now, and my to do list is starting to approach four feet. In 8 point type.

205 yah  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:18:54pm

re: #36 JammieWearingFool


One thing about that RCP map JCM put up: You can click on each state and change it to whatever you want. I have McCain now with 538 electoral votes.

I made my map up to give McCain just 274 so the losers get all upset and move to Canada or Europe. (they never seem to want to move to Mexico)

206 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:19:38pm

re: #200 vxbush

Hey, goddess! Did you get my email from last night? A special gift from me to you.

I just saw it--ADORABLE!

207 hazzyday  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:19:41pm

re: #169 Nevergiveup

It's just not coming to me, but who was that real big running back you guys had up there? I was a real big AFL fan. Joe Namath and the Jets after all.

Sam Cunningham?

208 vxbush  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:19:45pm

re: #202 sattv4u2

ruh roh ,, last time someone said that to me I wound up taking peniciline for a month !

BAD SATT , BAD BAD BAD !

Heh. No, no, just a pic I thought she'd like. And its safe for work.

209 rawmuse  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:19:51pm

Whoah, I almost forgot. Coz left me in charge of Trivia.
Here goes.

What is largest dam now being constructed?

210 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:20:35pm

re: #201 Nevergiveup

Who was the QB then with Cunningham- Groogan?

at the end of Cunninghams career. Grogan came in mid 70. There was a series of terrible QB's for years between Parelli and Grogan

211 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:20:47pm

re: #209 rawmuse

Whoah, I almost forgot. Coz left me in charge of Trivia.
Here goes.

What is largest dam now being constructed?

Is it in China?

212 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:20:53pm

re: #209 rawmuse

Whoah, I almost forgot. Coz left me in charge of Trivia.
Here goes.

What is largest dam now being constructed?

That big one in China. Or do you actually want a name?

213 spidly  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:21:00pm

Florida CHL finally arrived.

214 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:21:01pm

re: #207 hazzyday

Sam Cunningham?

he was thinking of Jim Nance

215 vxbush  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:21:04pm

re: #206 goddessoftheclassroom

I just saw it--ADORABLE!

I'm thinking of another version:

"You sleep like this? Freak."

216 ArmyWife  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:21:08pm

Remember how I keep telling you guys my in-laws are Dem/Lib whackos in Vermont? Well this morning I wake up to this gem in my email box from my FIL:

*I THINK I UNDERSTAND THIS ELECTION A LITTLE BETTER NOW*
I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're
"exotic, different." Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.

If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim. Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable. Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.

If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.

If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian. If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a true Christian.

If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society. If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.

If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's. If you're husband is nicknamed "First Dude", with at least one
DWI conviction, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now.

217 rawmuse  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:21:39pm

re: #212 Nevergiveup

Must have the name.

218 WriterMom  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:22:26pm

OMG

NO LOW TOO LOW FOR THE ANTI-PALIN CROWD
LOOK AT THIS

I am going to be SICK.

219 spidly  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:22:35pm

re: #209 rawmuse

Whoah, I almost forgot. Coz left me in charge of Trivia.
Here goes.

What is largest dam now being constructed?

three gorges

220 Cartman  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:23:01pm

re: #197 Caboose

My favorite Floyd song, evah. RIP, indeed, Mr. Wright.

221 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:23:46pm

re: #209 rawmuse

Whoah, I almost forgot. Coz left me in charge of Trivia.
Here goes.

What is largest dam now being constructed?

Naturally, it would have to be the GOD dam !

222 Archimedes  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:23:51pm

From what I've seen of Obama's work, he was more of a community dis-organizer.

223 vxbush  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:23:53pm

re: #216 ArmyWife

Heh. Now: Count how many mistakes there are in that email? Let the enumeration begin.

224 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:24:32pm

re: #217 rawmuse

Must have the name.

长江三峡大坝;- -well if yu must.

225 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:25:02pm

re: #173 Cartman

Mayber this is one they should let Sarah rip him a new one on?


McCain can't ride the Palin wave forever. He's gotta step up to the plate. After all, he's the one running for POTUS, not Sarah.

Totally agree with cartman on this one, because McCain has the foreign policy experience, and the wisdom to know what you shouldn't do behind the administration's back. He'd do well with this one.

226 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:25:05pm

re: #209 rawmuse

The "God Damn in Amerika"?

/NObama!

227 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:26:55pm

re: #225 Yankee Division Son

Totally agree with cartman on this one, because McCain has the foreign policy experience, and the wisdom to know what you shouldn't do behind the administration's back. He'd do well with this one.

Just as long as he doesn't compliment Obama while he does it.

228 rawmuse  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:27:12pm

re: #219 spidly

We have a winner! It is the Three Gorges Dam.

Although, a series of dams will dwarf that project and could deny water to 86 million people downstream of the Mekong River. This is still in the planning stage. Thailand and Cambodia are protesting it.

229 WriterMom  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:27:21pm

re: #205 yah

Canada does not want your effing moonbats thankyouverymuch.

230 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:27:47pm

re: #218 WriterMom

OMG

NO LOW TOO LOW FOR THE ANTI-PALIN CROWD
LOOK AT THIS

I am going to be SICK.


As anyone checked this out to see if there really is a product of this type being offered?
libs are scurrilous

231 Cartman  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:28:14pm

re: #204 vxbush

Wow, I wasn't aware you were experiencing health issues, as well. My prayers are with ya! Glad your hubby's coming along. Hope your son is doing well, too. Looks like they missed ya so much at work, they decided to surprise you on your return by piling all of their stuff on you! That's when ya know you're valuable. ;)

232 kevinmumaw  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:28:37pm

re: #127 Nevergiveup

Looks like the Eagle Boys game is gonna be a barn burner.

Speaking of which, how about that Colts-Vikings game yesterday?

233 jwb7605  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:29:19pm

re: #218 WriterMom

OMG

NO LOW TOO LOW FOR THE ANTI-PALIN CROWD
LOOK AT THIS

I am going to be SICK.

Ick.
And in other news, it looks like CBS couldn't dig up any dirt on Palin, and is giving up.

234 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:29:19pm

re: #218 WriterMom

at least it's an equal opportunity scum-ball site..............

235 jacksontn  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:29:34pm

Did anyone see the woman on H&C tonight that was born after partial birth abortion? She made me cry.

236 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:29:59pm

re: #232 kevinmumaw

Speaking of which, how about that Colts-Vikings game yesterday?

Nothing could compare to the Bronco game.

237 mama winger  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:30:40pm

re: #218 WriterMom

OMG

NO LOW TOO LOW FOR THE ANTI-PALIN CROWD
LOOK AT THIS

I am going to be SICK.

(Writer MOM}

I am right here beside you. Hell's fury pales in comparison with mine.

238 Intrepid  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:30:51pm

re: #212 Nevergiveup

That big one in China. Or do you actually want a name?

Would that be the "Three Gorges Dam"?

239 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:30:55pm

re: #227 Nevergiveup

I don't think there's much of a danger of that in this case. How can Obama possibly defend not wanting to bring the troops home, especially now that the job is on it's way to being completed?

He can eat waffles (and make doublespeak excuses) if he wants, but I don't think most of the American public will buy it. Game over.

/jmho

240 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:31:23pm

Another try for a 'hero" play by Romo goes BOOOMMM. When will he ever learn just to eat it and live to play another series

241 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:31:44pm

re: #235 jacksontn

Did anyone see the woman on H&C tonight that was born after partial birth abortion? She made me cry.

Caught the end of it. Combs: "Do you really think Obama is for infanticide?"
Her: "What would you call it Allen?"

242 rawmuse  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:32:09pm

re: #238 Intrepid

Spidly beat ya to it, and gets an adult beverage of his/her choice, on me.

243 Intrepid  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:32:13pm

re: #238 Intrepid

Day late and $1.75 short (adjusted for inflation)

244 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:32:28pm

re: #240 sattv4u2

Another try for a 'hero" play by Romo goes BOOOMMM. When will he ever learn just to eat it and live to play another series

Favre Syndrome

245 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:32:39pm

re: #241 The Shadow Do

Caught the end of it. Combs: "Do you really think Obama is for infanticide?"
Her: "What would you call it Allen?"

Combs; "Gulp"

246 spidly  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:33:57pm

re: #242 rawmuse

Spidly beat ya to it, and gets an adult beverage of his/her choice, on me.

absinthe and buttermilk

247 vxbush  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:34:07pm

re: #231 Cartman

Looks like they missed ya so much at work, they decided to surprise you on your return by piling all of their stuff on you! That's when ya know you're valuable. ;)

Is that what it is? I thought they were clearly demonstrating their inability to think outside the box and, you know, do some of it themselves. Silly me.

248 mama winger  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:35:14pm

Romo is from the next town from me. He played in the local leagues here. He is a nice kid from a good family.

249 rawmuse  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:35:55pm

re: #246 spidly

absinthe and buttermilk

Wow. I think I have some. I mean, really, no kidding. I just got a bottle from a start up distiller in Alameda. Come on over. Absinthe makes the farts grow honda.

250 Taqyia2Me  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:36:18pm

OT:
I am pretty sure I heard Sarah say it and am damn sure I heard W say it and even more sure it drives the dem/msm/l-cubed consortium ape-shit, so, from now on - I pledge to refer to it as "Nuke-you-lar!"
As in: Nuke-you-lar weapons, Nuke-you-lar energy, Nuke-you-lar family, Nuke-you-lar medicine, etc.

251 kevinmumaw  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:36:32pm

re: #153 Yankee Division Son

Ace has a very interesting post up, I commented on the subject yesterday..

It's On: McCain Camp Demands Answers on Obama's Illegal Interference with US Foreign Policy

Yo Obama, ya'll just got served.. It's on!

If this is true, it is the clearest violation of the Logan Act since the Logan Act was passed. Not to mention how bad it makes you look when you are trying to extend troops in Iraq in private while saying the exact opposite in public. but then again Obama is a politician, despite what he claims.

252 mama winger  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:36:35pm

He comes home and has dinner with his ma. He brings Jessica with him. The neighbors love her - they say she is sweet and down to earth. Helps with the laundry and the meals.

253 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:37:34pm

re: #248 mama winger

Romo is from the next town from me. He played in the local leagues here. He is a nice kid from a good family.

I've heard that about Romo..Great kid..

254 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:38:23pm

re: #252 mama winger

He comes home and has dinner with his ma. He brings Jessica with him. The neighbors love her - they say she is sweet and down to earth. Helps with the laundry and the meals.

Jessica Cooks? Call 911!
/heh

255 TheMatrix31  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:38:31pm

I "HOPE" the Obama/Iraq story gets play.

It would be a nice "CHANGE" of pace if they actually covered it.

256 spidly  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:39:02pm

re: #250 Taqyia2Me

OT:
I am pretty sure I heard Sarah say it and am damn sure I heard W say it and even more sure it drives the dem/msm/l-cubed consortium ape-shit, so, from now on - I pledge to refer to it as "Nuke-you-lar!"
As in: Nuke-you-lar weapons, Nuke-you-lar energy, Nuke-you-lar family, Nuke-you-lar medicine, etc.

heard it too, I thought that might be lefty baiting.

257 jacksontn  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:39:16pm

I knew ACORN supported Obama but I did not know he was once (or still is) an attorney representing them:

Obama was part of a team of attorneys who represented the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) in a lawsuit against the state of Illinois in 1995 for failing to implement a federal law designed to make it easier for the poor and others to register as voters.

..... voter fraud will be in every state. They are desperate and will stop at nothing.

258 Intrepid  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:40:04pm

It's telling that BO and Plugs are now energized and have left off the Palin hits. And what has energized them?

The failure of Lehman Bros, potential failure in other institutions, and a 500 point drop in the stock market.

They're jazzed because they can try and tie it into Bush/McCain, even though millions of people could be financially harmed by it.

How was McCain energized, just two short weeks ago? By choosing a running mate who connects to every day Americans, and who vows to reform Washington and to also focus on energy independence. All Americans would be helped by the achievement of these goals.

Shows a sure gap in the "Who Loves America?" question.

259 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:40:36pm

re: #252 mama winger

Hey, mama.

Where the hell you been at?

260 spidly  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:41:32pm

must go eat thai food

261 neocon hippie  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:42:06pm

re: #164 loflyer

Now this is really rich. I am so glad that the McCain camp is calling The Lightworker on this. Perhaps this could be the thing that sinks the Obummer campaign.

262 mama winger  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:43:08pm

re: #254 HoosierHoops

Jessica Cooks? Call 911!
/heh

I think she cuts up the veggies. :)

263 seekeroftruth  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:43:27pm

re: #216 ArmyWife

Even the email has Obama, president candidate, running against Palin, Vice president candidate. It must not occur to these folks on the left that this makes Obama look really weak for not running against his opponent - McCain.

264 mama winger  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:43:27pm

re: #259 Noam Sayin'

Hey, mama.

Where the hell you been at?

I was dead, but then I got better.

265 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:43:27pm

re: #257 jacksontn

I knew ACORN supported Obama but I did not know he was once (or still is) an attorney representing them:

Obama was part of a team of attorneys who represented the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) in a lawsuit against the state of Illinois in 1995 for failing to implement a federal law designed to make it easier for the poor and others to register as voters.

..... voter fraud will be in every state. They are desperate and will stop at nothing.

[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

[Link: web.archive.org...]

[Link: www.iht.com...]

266 yah  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:43:28pm
What is largest dam now being constructed?

It it what Obama says when he loses?

267 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:44:58pm

re: #257 jacksontn

[Link: web.archive.org...]

268 jacksontn  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:45:23pm

re: #265 MandyManners

Thanks Mandy guess I got some reading to do.

269 looking closely  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:45:32pm

re: #164 loflyer

I hope McCain take this to the wall. Media has been slack on Obama for way to long. Perhaps Charles can make this item a thread? (hint,hint)

Its a good story, but I suspect it won't have legs. Obama has essentially flatly denied it, taking a swipe at McCain's veracity to boot.

Here is a more balanced report, including Obama's response to the article by Taheri:

[Link: www.politico.com...]

"This article bears as much resemblance to the truth as a McCain campaign commercial. Barack Obama has consistently called for any Strategic Framework Agreement to be submitted to the U.S. Congress so that the American people have the same opportunity for review as the Iraqi Parliament," said Obama spokeswoman Wendy Morigi. "Unlike John McCain, he supports a clear timetable to redeploy our troops that has the support of the Iraqi government. Barack Obama has never urged a delay in negotiations, nor has he urged a delay in immediately beginning a responsible drawdown of our combat brigades."

While the story rings true, short of audiotapes of the meeting, this ultimately comes down to who you want to believe.

270 WriterMom  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:45:47pm

OK who said BO & Plugs.

THAT made me laugh. Thanks. Hahahaha.

271 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:46:00pm

re: #257 jacksontn

[Link: web.archive.org...]

272 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:46:19pm

re: #268 jacksontn

Thanks Mandy guess I got some reading to do.

You're welcome.

273 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:46:19pm

re: #252 mama winger

He comes home and has dinner with his ma. He brings Jessica with him. The neighbors love her - they say she is sweet and down to earth. Helps with the laundry and the meals.

Nobody is that darn nice any more. Are they?

274 WriterMom  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:46:46pm

re: #237 mama winger

So very glad you are here.

275 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:47:27pm

re: #264 mama winger

I was dead, but then I got better.

For you youngin's out there, that's an adapted line from M*A*S*H.

276 mama winger  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:48:33pm

re: #273 The Shadow Do

Nobody is that darn nice any more. Are they?

Apparently she is.

My friend lives next door to Tony Romo's folks. She has a brother in college. He was home one weekend and sleeping in the basement. Tony came over with Jessica and woke him up. He about crapped his pants.

277 Charles  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:49:00pm

re: #269 looking closely

I've been leery of Amir Taheri ever since his 'Iranian yellow star' story that turned out to be false.

278 BlueCanuck  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:49:08pm

re: #264 mama winger

I was dead, but then I got better.

All dead? Or just mostly dead?


/could also go another way as well with that line. :)

279 Intrepid  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:49:17pm

re: #270 WriterMom

OK who said BO & Plugs.

THAT made me laugh. Thanks. Hahahaha.

:-)

280 mama winger  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:49:23pm

re: #274 WriterMom

So very glad you are here.

(Writer Mom)

I hate how that stupid T-shirt hurt you.

281 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:49:25pm

re: #275 Noam Sayin'

For you youngin's out there, that's an adapted line from M*A*S*H.

Thanks.. i had no clue

282 kevinmumaw  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:49:28pm

DU has alink about Iran supplying arms to the Taliban...something that was reported first over a year ago. Without going into details, I was in Afghanistan last March (2007). I know for a fact that Iran is supplying the Taliban (and by extension, AQ) with weapons, mostly light arms including brand new RPGs. Of course, the DUmmies think it is false because Shiites would never cooperate with Sunnis...Even my 7 year old knows better than that.

283 mama winger  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:49:59pm

re: #278 BlueCanuck

All dead? Or just mostly dead?


/could also go another way as well with that line. :)

That is the best movie ever.

284 yah  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:50:33pm

re: #237 mama winger

I love your new "icon." Missed you. I have not been around much either.

285 snowcrash  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:51:20pm

re: #264 mama winger
I am very glad to see you!

286 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:51:48pm

re: #276 mama winger

Apparently she is.

My friend lives next door to Tony Romo's folks. She has a brother in college. He was home one weekend and sleeping in the basement. Tony came over with Jessica and woke him up. He about crapped his pants.

Very, very neat. I have been watching his progress in the NFL for years. Not a clue about his personal life beyond all the media sensationalism, just a real level headed guy from all I have seen. I hope he continues to do well.

No dog fighting for him?

287 NoSubmission  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:51:50pm

Lizards Ladies,
Todd Palin is going to be interviewed on Greta on FOX tonight.

:)

288 mama winger  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:52:05pm

re: #284 yah

I love your new "icon." Missed you. I have not been around much either.

It's so nice to see you too. :) thank you

289 mama winger  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:52:45pm

re: #286 The Shadow Do

Very, very neat. I have been watching his progress in the NFL for years. Not a clue about his personal life beyond all the media sensationalism, just a real level headed guy from all I have seen. I hope he continues to do well.

No dog fighting for him?

Maybe some cow tipping. We are the dairy state, you know. :)

290 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:52:53pm

re: #249 rawmuse

Absinthe and buttermilk? Never heard of that combo before... i'll take mine straight - with a dollop of sugar.

291 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:52:53pm

re: #288 mama winger

Welcome Back, Mama,,,

Are you going to write a "What I Did On My Vacation' report?

292 yah  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:53:41pm

re: #277 Charles

Maybe that is why Rove has been saying that McCain better be careful about negative ads not being factual.

I originally thought Rove was laying some kind of trap for the libs -

293 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:54:37pm

re: #289 mama winger

Maybe some cow tipping. We are the dairy state, you know. :)

LOL!

Tried that once. Didn't work out too well. Probably drinking too much.
/dopey teenager

294 Cartman  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:54:38pm

re: #246 spidly

absinthe and buttermilk

I don't drink anymore, but that combination would cause me to swear off the sauce forever.

295 nightintheruts  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:55:37pm

re: #257 jacksontn

oh yes, check out what he did to his opponents that ran against him.
They went through every single voter registration to kick names off because of say, maiden names being used instead of married, or vice versa, misspelled names...
his people sunk to a new low
However, now, the backing of Stoger and Daly won't mean anything.

but...
I do believe the 0ne will rally his loonies to violence, and it ain't gonna be pretty when he loses.

296 stevieray  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:56:06pm

re: #282 kevinmumaw

DU has alink about Iran supplying arms to the Taliban...something that was reported first over a year ago. Without going into details, I was in Afghanistan last March (2007). I know for a fact that Iran is supplying the Taliban (and by extension, AQ) with weapons, mostly light arms including brand new RPGs. Of course, the DUmmies think it is false because Shiites would never cooperate with Sunnis...Even my 7 year old knows better than that.

Wasn't that story uncovered [again] by the Beeb? Why would they think the BBC would make up something like this? It doesn't serve the Beeb's agenda...

297 mama winger  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:56:13pm

re: #291 sattv4u2

Welcome Back, Mama,,,

Are you going to write a "What I Did On My Vacation' report?

I never kiss and tell

*wink*

298 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:56:35pm

re: #281 HoosierHoops

Thanks.. i had no clue

Something about a Greek soldier who went missing and listed dead. Then at the end of the show while the Greek National anthem is being played, Pvt. something-something-adopolis walks out, saluting.

"I thought he was dead?"

"He got better."

...with Alan Alda, of course, getting the punch line.

Why do I remember this crap?

299 Archimedes  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:57:33pm

I'm sure some of you have visited Michelle Malkin's website today. She has a link to Thomas Hawk's website. He is a photographer who had a run in with Jill Greenberg over her methods of photographing children, which he considered to be abusive. This was two years ago, so Greenberg was called out then.

The title of his blog is:

Jill Greenberg is a Sick Woman Who Should Be Arrested and Charged With Child Abuse

[Link: thomashawk.com...]


Btw, if you visit her website today, you'll find she's update the look:
[Link: www.manipulator.com...]

300 looking closely  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:58:21pm

re: #277 Charles

I've been leery of Amir Taheri ever since his 'Iranian yellow star' story that turned out to be false.


If this story is false (and again, it appears difficult to sort out the truth here) Taheri may not be responsible for the error.

Its possible in speaking with Taheri the Iraqi foreign minister may have shaded things for political reasons (internal, or external).

Its possible Taheri slanted his remarks, and its also possible (though pretty unlikely) that there was a legitimate misunderstanding.

But if you ask me if this report seems plausible. . .I think it does.

301 nightintheruts  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:58:25pm

re: #283 mama winger

That is the best movie ever.


My name is Inigo Montoya...


yes, love it. all five thumbs up!

302 mama winger  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:59:05pm

re: #298 Noam Sayin'

Why do I remember this crap?

They say you lose the short term memory first. The long term stuff stays around a little longer.

303 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:59:20pm
304 mama winger  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:59:28pm

re: #301 nightintheruts

My name is Inigo Montoya...


yes, love it. all five thumbs up!

It's a classic!

305 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 6:59:46pm

re: #298 Noam Sayin'

Something about a Greek soldier who went missing and listed dead. Then at the end of the show while the Greek National anthem is being played, Pvt. something-something-adopolis walks out, saluting.

"I thought he was dead?"

"He got better."

...with Alan Alda, of course, getting the punch line.

Why do I remember this crap?

It was a Belgian soldier.

306 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:00:28pm
307 nightintheruts  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:00:38pm

re: #298 Noam Sayin'


Because...back before it went all P.C. it was one of the funniest and best shows ever...
Trapper and Hawkeye...classic duo.

308 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:01:33pm

I can't help but wonder if someone has asked Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari about it...

309 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:05:11pm

re: #305 MandyManners

It was a Belgian soldier.

You are so cute when you're nerdy.

310 reine.de.tout  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:08:19pm

re: #307 nightintheruts

Because...back before it went all P.C. it was one of the funniest and best shows ever...
Trapper and Hawkeye...classic duo.

It was, indeed. Caught an episode on a re-run the other day, and enjoyed it now just as much as I did then.
Maybe more.

311 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:09:11pm

re: #298 Noam Sayin'

Something about a Greek soldier who went missing and listed dead. Then at the end of the show while the Greek National anthem is being played, Pvt. something-something-adopolis walks out, saluting.

"I thought he was dead?"

"He got better."

...with Alan Alda, of course, getting the punch line.

Why do I remember this crap?

Wasn't he in a coma but had no dog tags? I remember that episode!

312 Alouette  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:09:44pm

re: #250 Taqyia2Me

OT:
I am pretty sure I heard Sarah say it and am damn sure I heard W say it and even more sure it drives the dem/msm/l-cubed consortium ape-shit, so, from now on - I pledge to refer to it as "Nuke-you-lar!"
As in: Nuke-you-lar weapons, Nuke-you-lar energy, Nuke-you-lar family, Nuke-you-lar medicine, etc.

Didn't Harry S pronounce it "New-clear" as in "what kind of hook and bait do you use for this new clear fishin'?"

313 GGMac  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:10:15pm

re: #184 mama winger


{mama winger}

So HAPPY to see you!

Missed you...

314 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:11:21pm

re: #303 ploome hineni

The New York Post has Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, on record, stating Barack Obama tried to interfere with ongoing negotiations with Iraqi leaders while on his trip to Iraq recently.

If that's true, Obama has allot of splain'in to do..

315 TheMatrix31  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:11:41pm

Count me in on the "new-clee-er" pronunciation.

316 looking closely  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:12:11pm

re: #303 ploome hineni

Obama is a thug

That he may be. Here is the actual story by Taheri:

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

But with respect to the impact of this story (not its veracity) it comes down to who is perceived as more of a "thug", the Iraqi foreign minister, or Obama.

Obama has already claimed the story is false. So where does it go from here?

Plus, Charles raises a good point about the author Taheri's credibility. Taheri has a less than perfect reputation that way, and even if the story is true, his participation casts some doubt over it.

317 sparrowlake  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:13:15pm

re: #306 buzzsawmonkey

The one thing I will say in defense of Jill Greenberg is that the other pictures on her website are just as ugly and unattractively colored as her shots of John McCain.
On that score, The Atlantic knew damn well what it was getting when it hired her.

So I guess she doesn't get much barmitzvah and wedding work?

318 reine.de.tout  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:14:24pm
re: #314 Yankee Division Son

re: #303 ploome hineni

The New York Post has Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, on record, stating Barack Obama tried to interfere with ongoing negotiations with Iraqi leaders while on his trip to Iraq recently.

If that's true, Obama has allot of splain'in to do..

Obama thinks he's already president.
He takes himself way too seriously, as if he really believes he's as smart as his handlers and those who chose and groomed him have told him he is.

319 GGMac  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:15:48pm

re: #317 sparrowlake

So I guess she doesn't get much barmitzvah and wedding work?


If she's lucky she'll get to do some sale flyers for Payless Shoes - but ideally, Payless will also boycott her!

320 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:16:28pm
321 rawmuse  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:17:54pm

re: #290 lawhawk

Absinthe and buttermilk? Never heard of that combo before... i'll take mine straight - with a dollop of sugar.

I don't drink any longer, but I get gifts and a bottle of absinthe was one lately. I will save it for spidly.

322 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:17:56pm
323 hazzyday  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:19:24pm

The latest undercurrent; Richard Gere saying on Extra TV he knows John McCain so well and is shocked to find out now he is such a liar. No one brought up "the many lies of Obama" It must be going around the Hollywood party circle as a whisper campaign to call John McCain a liar whenever they have a mic. But they never seem to mention what lie he has told. Maybe they thinks it's his time as a POW.

324 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:19:24pm
325 sparrowlake  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:22:02pm

Hi Mama Winger, hope you've been well.re: #324 ploome hineni

LOL

she really is an artist

Anything that dark, ugly and inappropriate HAS to be art.

326 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:22:06pm
327 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:23:25pm

re: #323 hazzyday

But they never seem to mention what lie he has told.

There was that time he said, "I'll be there in a minute," and it turned out to be more like three minutes.

Liar.

328 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:23:49pm

re: #309 Noam Sayin'

You are so cute when you're nerdy.

I dated a Belgian for a long time in college so things Belgian get my notice.

329 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:23:54pm
330 GGMac  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:24:23pm

re: #320 ploome hineni

what is it?

That's the style of art I make - with colored pencils - I didn't know it had a name! Haven't read an art magazine, or entered an exhibit in several years.

I've often wondered how many Lizards are also artists.

331 Tigger2005  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:25:21pm

re: #307 nightintheruts

Because...back before it went all P.C. it was one of the funniest and best shows ever...
Trapper and Hawkeye...classic duo.

My fave M*A*S*H* episode:

"Captain Tuttle"

The plot is that the guys are stealing supplies to give to a nun who runs an orphanage. Of course they don't tell the nun they're stealing, but explain that her benefactor is one of the camp's finest officers, a "Captain Tuttle." Word about Capt. Tuttle gets out, and everyone is curious about him. Trapper and Hawkeye keep building him up into this selfless, heroic, incredibly handsome, saint-like figure. People start to feel like they know him even though they've never seen him. Finally a decision is made to give an award to Captain Tuttle. The whole camp turns out, only to have Hawkeye appear holding a parachute.

SPOILER

Hawkeye announces that Captain Tuttle was choppered to the front to do some field surgery and jumped ... without his parachute. "Good luck, doctor, in that great waiting room in the sky," he eulogizes, saluting. Col. Blake chimes in, "He was the best damn O.D. we ever had!"

The episode where General MacArthur is supposed to visit the camp is great too: After all the preparation, with Radar standing in as MacArthur and Hawkeye and Trapper constantly sabotaging things, MacArthur suddenly arrives ahead of schedule ... only his jeep speeds right through the camp, and he barely looks up until he sees Corporal Klinger standing by the road, dressed like the Statue of Liberty and holding a torch shooting sparks. He rises halfway up in the still moving jeep and salutes.

332 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:26:08pm
333 loflyer  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:27:32pm

re: #323 hazzyday

The latest undercurrent; Richard Gere saying on Extra TV he knows John McCain so well and is shocked to find out now he is such a liar. No one brought up "the many lies of Obama" It must be going around the Hollywood party circle as a whisper campaign to call John McCain a liar whenever they have a mic. But they never seem to mention what lie he has told. Maybe they thinks it's his time as a POW.

And of course Jane Fonda is the poster child of Hollywood anti-war celebs. If they all died in DUI accidents tonight the country would be far better off.

334 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:27:49pm
335 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:28:58pm
336 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:29:21pm
337 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:29:30pm
338 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:30:19pm
339 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:31:24pm
340 sparrowlake  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:31:57pm

re: #326 buzzsawmonkey

And a photograph which seeks to resemble paintings which ape photography is the sort of self-fellation which has rendered the art world the irrelevancy it is today.

Now THAT would be an art form.

341 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:35:09pm
342 looking closely  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:37:34pm

re: #329 ploome hineni

who benefits from this story?

why would an IRAQI go out of his way to discreditObama?

unless he thinks Obama is a dangerous liar


Multiple people may potentially benefit from the story: Taheri, the Iraqi foreign minister, McCain, etc, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're all "in" on it, or speak to its veracity.

Why would the IFM try to discredit Obama? Maybe he's angry at how the Iraqi Prime Minister sucked up to Obama at his visit (so there could be internal political reasons). Maybe, as you say, he simply believes that McCain would be better for Iraq (or for other reasons).

But again, none of these motivations necessarily point to the veracity of the story.

The next question is "why now"? The meeting in question isn't that recent, so why is this story emerging now? (I'll posit the timing to intent by its author, Taheri).

And lastly, whether the story is true or not, and even if it "goes away" in the American press, it doesn't just "go away". If Obama loses the election, he's still a sitting US Senator. If Obama wins, now he's essentially called the Iraqi Foreign minister a liar. That alone could potentially have serious ramifications to future US/Iraqi relations under an Obama administration.

343 looking closely  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:38:08pm

re: #340 sparrowlake

Now THAT would be an art form.

If I were that artistic, I'd never leave my home.

344 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:40:37pm
345 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:41:35pm
346 snowcrash  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:46:46pm

re: #344 ploome hineni
Think Annie L. kept the negs and photoshopped some shark teeth and blood in the queens mouth?/sarc. BTW, I like the Queens picture in the first link.

347 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:51:29pm
348 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:53:44pm
349 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:54:15pm
350 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 7:56:18pm
351 reine.de.tout  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 8:06:31pm

re: #345 buzzsawmonkey

re: #349 ploome hineni

Damn! Y'all don't stop now! I was enjoying the banter

352 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 8:09:19pm
353 sparrowlake  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 8:10:09pm

re: #344 ploome hineni

its a current approach to portraiture

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

These are photographs which are distorted by the photographer so as to look like paintings - not paintings at all. They are the opposite of Hyper Realism.
Hyper Realism is a form of painting or sculpture. Norman Rockwell's paintings approach photographic realism, and are wonderful. The naturalist painter Robert Bateman is another wonderful hyper realist.

354 Sideways  Mon, Sep 15, 2008 8:26:32pm

Obama's campaign has sent out another action alert trying to get people to protest WGN 720's/Milt Rosenberg's "Extension 720" again.


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