Yeah, the polling data worked so well for them in 2004.

Oh, predicting what the MSM will do! Make sure you keep that crystal ball polished, Charles. You're going to need it every day between now and the election.

Where was the poll taken Amsterdam?

This is like the liberal MSM conferring with itself and proclaiming itself unbaised.

Has Baghdad Bob joined the Kos Kids?

And Kos does have a long and proud history of picking winners!

/

If the poll is taken of people who go to Kos, then I'm surprised it isn't 0bama 110%.
What site ran the poll?

Now watch the mainstream media use them as a source.

I use them as a source...of laughter.

The messiah's only up by four with the koslings?! Are they just making up numbers?

I'd love for the Obama folks to believe this crap.
-Relax, dems, we're way ahead...

No votes for Ron Paul?

Even though Kos is pushing the poll...it's almost within the margin of error.

What does that say for the Kos and the left...trouble in Obamaland.

They forgot a decimal point. McCain only gets 4.4 percent over at Daily Kooks.

DKos is polling? That's rich. Let them use that as a source. Let the media lap it up. Then, ask DKos and the media to go ask Sen. Ned Lamont for his expert opinion on how things worked out.

I can't believe that these folks honestly believe what they're writing. And if they're trying to astroturf or otherwise try to prepare the battlefield of politics with bogus data to support their claims (hoping that the bogus information gets repeated enough that it is treated as fact), it will blow back in their face especially if the Obama campaign relies on the data from DKos rather than from established and more reputable outlets.

Heh - let them make up their victorious polls!
All it'll do is lull them into a false sense of security, i.e. a safe win for the B0.
That means in practice they'll not bother voting as the win is in the bag anyway, per their polls.

Will be a terrible awakening on Nov 5th ...

How does this go again: 97.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot?

They actually calmed down enough to replace "CHIMPY MCHITLERBURTON" with "John McCain"? Maybe there is hope for them.

/maybe not

re: #15 lawhawk

...it will blow back in their face especially if the Obama campaign relies on the data from DKos rather than from established and more reputable outlets.

The joke is that much of the MSM is just as disreputable.

That's got about as much credibility as Prisonplanet.com polls asking what percentage of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job.

Or any poll with Ron Paul's name in it, for that matter. (:

BREAKING NEWS:

Occasional Reader Double Secret Poll shows McCain 95.44%, Obama 4.56%

Now watch the mainstream media use them as a source.

Yeah! Heck yeah! I mean they'll totally probably do that. Right?

re: #21 Occasional Reader

BREAKING NEWS:

Occasional Reader Double Secret Poll shows McCain 95.44%, Obama 4.56%

You forgot Nader.

According to my latest figures, the Klingon demographic, which was originally tied between both parties (finding both McCain and Obama lacking in honor), supports Palin by 67%, which a margin of error of batleth-in-your-face.

In other, more important news, oil is now approaching $90. It bounced off $90.50, but is still down several dollars from yesterday's close. The slump in oil prices means that the feds might have more leeway to cut interest rates without inflationary concerns since the biggest feeder of inflation these days is none other than energy costs.

re: #21 Occasional Reader

Who's the 4.56% and what's the margin of error? /

re: #23 Cognito

re: #21 Occasional Reader

BREAKING NEWS:

Occasional Reader Double Secret Poll shows McCain 95.44%, Obama 4.56%

You forgot Nader.

Looks like a nadir to me.

Karnack: 104 to 0

Ed: What will the next dKos tracking poll show, Obama vs. McCain?

re: #23 Cognito

You forgot Nader.

Have you met our chief statistician, Marge Inoferror?

/pace, Car Talk

Nothing more than a pacifier for a bunch of crying babies.

Figures don't lie, liars figure....................

la la la la, I can't hear you......

It's their soap, and their shower, I suppose they can do what ever they want.

Where are they drawing their data? There isn't a singe source listed! Did they hire a polling firm? Is this from their own site's polling? WTF? Any msm outlet that might use this as a source should be laughed off the air, off the presses, etc.

I hope it at least makes the koslings feel secure, and panic doesn't set in- that will make election day that much more fun when they realize they believed their own bullsh*t.

re: #22 Cognito

Yeah! Heck yeah! I mean they'll totally probably do that. Right?

Ummm... Yes.

Many citations in many outlets.

And meanwhile, there's hamburger all over the highway in Mystic, Connecticut the carnage is being stemmed on the NYSE: Dow only down about 25, as of now.

If you have any questions about the poll they have an ombudsperson, go to Helen Waite.

Ned Lamont rules the world!

re: #35 Occasional Reader

The PPT at work?

26% Republicans in that sample. Comparing the "demographics" of Kos with that of the electorate probably predicts a landslide for McCain/Palin.

re: #32 killerjoe

It's their soap, and their shower, I suppose they can do what ever they want.

If the folks pictured in Zombie's reports are a good indicator, that may not be an apt analogy. They have no soap or shower.

keep an eye in the coming days on the 30-44 year olds. This cohort has been trending McCain, but jobs and the economy are going to get their attention

Yeah... makes me wanna vote for McCain even more, actually.

Here's a statistic for kos... I'm 100% not voting for Obama.

If a Kos poll can't be manipulated to show obama with a 50% lead, then Obama is hosed. No wonder Obama appears to get more desperate with every passing day.

Note to Kos: texting your Facebook friends is not a valid polling methodology.

Kos kiddies, how you like these apples...

Rasmussen latest Poll?

PA McCain 47% Obama 47%
CO McCain 48% Obama 46%
FL McCain 49% Obama 44%
OH McCain 48% Obama 45%
VA McCAin 48% Obama 48%

RCP Average?
McCain 46.2 Obama 44.7

RCP Electoral toss up map?
Obama/Biden 207
McCain/Palin 227
Toss Up 104

I forgot I had an account over there. Sure wish I had remembered my password when they were blasting Palin so badly.

I would prefer the left just take a chill pill, since this is evidently one election they just can't lose. [///]

re: #43 Iron Fist

If a Kos poll can't be manipulated to show obama with a 50% lead, then Obama is hosed. No wonder Obama appears to get more desperate with every passing day.

I was thinking that myself.

re: #43 Iron Fist

If a Kos poll can't be manipulated to show obama with a 50% lead, then Obama is hosed

That's an excellent point. Obama's only up four points in a Kos poll?!

Kos Tracking Poll-

McCain- .00000001%

Al Gore- 50%

Obama- 100000000000000000%

don't question our math we are professionals after all..

My wife just sent me this great Palin poster.

I noticed this last week and thought it was a gag at first.

re: #45 jcm

Stop upsetting them with "grownup" polls!

re: #15 lawhawk

DKos is polling? That's rich. Let them use that as a source. Let the media lap it up. Then, ask DKos and the media to go ask Sen. Ned Lamont for his expert opinion on how things worked out.

I can't believe that these folks honestly believe what they're writing. And if they're trying to astroturf or otherwise try to prepare the battlefield of politics with bogus data to support their claims (hoping that the bogus information gets repeated enough that it is treated as fact), it will blow back in their face especially if the Obama campaign relies on the data from DKos rather than from established and more reputable outlets.

When McCain wins in spite of their "poll" results......

First reaction......depression
Second reaction...."Our poll results are proof that the election was rigged!"

re: #34 karmic_inquisitor

Might want to take a harder look at those 'many citations.'

re: #45 jcm

They don't, which is why they're left with inventing their own polls. And even there, they can't gin up enough support to get outside the margin of error. Heh!

re: #45 jcm

That's a lot of tossup EVs...and we should be nervous that Virginia is so close. McCain really needs that one.

re: #54 eschew_obfuscation

Second reaction...."Our poll results are proof that the election was rigged!"

Although in this election, they'll be torn between the "election was stolen" and "AmeriKKKans are all racists who lied in the polls about supporting a black man" explanations.

re: #58 Occasional Reader

Although in this election, they'll be torn between the "election was stolen" and "AmeriKKKans are all racists who lied in the polls about supporting a black man" explanations.

Are you kidding? All they will shout is the latter.

sourcing the DailyKook for anything would be hilarious. except, par chance, to show how deranged the lOOpy left has become.

re: #57 joncelli

That's a lot of tossup EVs...and we should be nervous that Virginia is so close. McCain really needs that one.

PA went 8 points to Kerry, and it's tied. BHO loses PA it's over.
NJ is suddenly in play, if NJ is in play, BHO in deep doo-doo.

Speaking of media bias, this is effen unbelievable, even in a forest of unbelievable sh*t.

AP Thinks Sderot Rockets Only “Allegedly” From Gaza Militants

Because it really was Jews posing as Arabs firing from Gaza on Sderote.

It reminds me when Shalevet Pass (look it up) was killed by a sniper in Hebron, Brent Sadler (one of the worst) said, "Israel saaays by a Palestinian sniper..." as if it was anything else.

Of course Sadler, for some unknown reason, neglected to report that the official PA newspaper reported the next day that Shalevet's mother shot her herself because she was embarrassed that the girl was disabled (which she wasn't).

Tata.

Busy day.

Busy busy busy.

re: #35 Occasional Reader

Shoes for industry!

re: #53 Occasional Reader

Stop upsetting them with "grownup" polls!

Sorry, I won't do it again.....
in this thread.....

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit."

spit...

re: #61 jcm

NJ might seem to be in play, but the fix is and always will be in. NJ will be Democratic until the day they ride their political class out of town on a rail.

re: #65 Dustyvet

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit."

spit...

And goodness knows, the Daily Kos has a lot of bullshit to spread around. They produce more bullshit per day than all the cattle ranches in the country.

What's the margin of error on that poll +-95%

"The next Senator from the great state of Connecticut, Ned Lamont!"

/bwahahahahaha

re: #67 Honorary Yooper

And goodness knows, the Daily Kos has a lot of bullshit to spread around. They produce more bullshit per day than all the cattle ranches in the country.

And its not even well-made bullshit ...

re: #58 Occasional Reader

Although in this election, they'll be torn between the "election was stolen" and "AmeriKKKans are all racists who lied in the polls about supporting a black man" explanations.

"This McCain win is a disappointing symbol of a racial divide in this country that is much deeper, much more troublesome than previously understood. It will be incumbent upon this new administration to pull out all the stops in an effort to eliminate, once and for all, the prejudice and bigotry that America has demonstrated here today."

/MSM - Day after election

re: #70 yma o hyd

And its not even well-made bullshit ...

Now that's sad...they can't even do bullshit right?

re: #19 JamesTKirk

Daily Kos, show prep for the MSM.

This election cycle is a real eye opener regarding the bias in the press, I for one am glad to see it so blatantly exposed. The Left is always talking about the so called fairness doctrine, too bad it does not apply to biased twerps spewing falsehoods.

Finally, an impatial pollster!

I always enjoy these humor threads.

I was going to check out that Kos poll, but I wanted to finish my waffle.

Sorry OT, but the more voters who see Greta Van Susteren's interview withTodd Palin, the better for McCain/Palin!

Over at DKos, they promise to stop doing this when they have to get glasses.

Here's hoping for a lemming like reaction to the election by the Kossacks. Last one off the cliff is a capitalist!

Kos Hungry! Kos Kill!

#45 jcm
thanks for that. I was about to go look for the latest numbers too.

re: #71 eschew_obfuscation

"This McCain win is a disappointing symbol of a racial divide in this country that is much deeper, much more troublesome than previously understood. It will be incumbent upon this new administration to pull out all the stops in an effort to eliminate, once and for all, the prejudice and bigotry that America has demonstrated here today."

/MSM - Day after election

It will be the 'Electoral" lynching of a Black man!

how pathetic,
they are making up their own reality like children playing make believe.
at this rate, even when mccain wins, they might declare a landslide for obama.
(the aftermath of this election is going to be devastating for these fools).

Daily Kos must be pulling itself apart in agonized - um - agony.

Per Rasmussen today:

Palin beats Biden in a Presidential poll.
McCain one point ahead of Obama.
Tied in Penn.
McCain ahead in Ohio.
McCain ahead in Colorado.
McCain ahead in Utah by 32 points (I threw that in for fun).
Majority thinks only McCain and Biden ready to be President.

Etc., etc., etc.

re: #72 scottishbuzzsaw

Now that's sad...they can't even do bullshit right?

Nope.
I don't want to get into particulars - but think of it as being thin and without substance, rather than having at least a bit of fullness.

Oh - and its witless and charmless as well. Thats unforgivable in the art of bullshitting.

Huh. I'm surprised, nay indeed SHOCKED that DKos shows McCain with 44%! How the hell are they gonna throw the campaign to Obama that way?!

re: #84 Catttt

Daily Kos must be pulling itself apart in agonized - um - agony.

Per Rasmussen today:

Palin beats Biden in a Presidential poll.
McCain one point ahead of Obama.
Tied in Penn.
McCain ahead in Ohio.
McCain ahead in Colorado.
McCain ahead in Utah by 32 points (I threw that in for fun).
Majority thinks only McCain and Biden ready to be President.

Etc., etc., etc.

Utah? I thought O had that state in the bag.
//

re: #55 Cognito

Might want to take a harder look at those 'many citations.'

"daily Kos poll" cited in these well known, mainstream outlets for political news.

US News and World Report

The New Republic

The Hill

Politico

That is off the first page of hits. Need more?

re: #77 jill e

Sorry OT, but the more voters who see Greta Van Susteren's interview withTodd Palin, the better for McCain/Palin!

This is the first time in "years" I've actually enjoyed Greta.
Somebody should get word to her that she is a very good interviewer of interesting people, and very few like to watch her "investigate" young dead (or possibly dead) girls much.
I noted she didn't ask much about politics to either Sarah Palin or Todd Palin. She asked a bunch of things that just had generic "interest value", and did it in a pleasant way.
She looked like she was enjoying herself and having a pleasant time.

re: #84 Catttt

Daily Kos must be pulling itself apart in agonized - um - agony.

Per Rasmussen today:

Palin beats Biden in a Presidential poll.
McCain one point ahead of Obama.
Tied in Penn.
McCain ahead in Ohio.
McCain ahead in Colorado.
McCain ahead in Utah by 32 points (I threw that in for fun).
Majority thinks only McCain and Biden ready to be President.

Etc., etc., etc.

The weird thing is, the only Presidential signs I've seen here are for The ONE. I'm not even in the more liberal downtown, I'm in Sandy (much more conservative than Salt Lake).

Rush is on a roll.

re: #85 yma o hyd

Nope.
I don't want to get into particulars - but think of it as being thin and without substance, rather than having at least a bit of fullness.

Oh - and its witless and charmless as well. Thats unforgivable in the art of bullshitting.

So very true, luv, so very true...LOL!

I'm still kind of shocked the koslings would only have 0bama up by four yet seem to be happy about it as though it's a decisive lead. Most polls margin of error is between 3% to 5%. But hey- if they feel justified to think the election is going their way, I'm not one to burst their bubble.

Someone pass then a bong, and maybe they won't notice until it's too late.

BTW, not a single Kosling questions the validity of the Kos poll.

re: #82 opnion

It will be the 'Electoral" lynching of a Black man!

And the whole World -except for India - will believe it!

re: #80 EIDE_Interface

Kos Hungry! Kos Kill!

Kos find new meme to hit evil Republican with.

re: #91 Racer X

Rush is on a roll.

did you just hear him mention that he has heard rumblings abt. hillary getting on board in oct.?
that would be such a bad move for her. she won't be able to stop the sinking ship.

re: #91 Racer X

Rush is on a roll.

It's ironic because, as I'm sure Rush will mention, Lehman Bros,etc are some of the biggest contributors to Barry.

re: #97 nyc redneck

did you just hear him mention that he has heard rumblings abt. hillary getting on board in oct.?
that would be such a bad move for her. she won't be able to stop the sinking ship.

The PUMAs already said they won't go for it.

re: #97 nyc redneck

did you just hear him mention that he has heard rumblings abt. hillary getting on board in oct.?
that would be such a bad move for her. she won't be able to stop the sinking ship.

What do you mean by getting on board?

re: #89 jwb7605

This is the first time in "years" I've actually enjoyed Greta.
Somebody should get word to her that she is a very good interviewer of interesting people, and very few like to watch her "investigate" young dead (or possibly dead) girls much.
I noted she didn't ask much about politics to either Sarah Palin or Todd Palin. She asked a bunch of things that just had generic "interest value", and did it in a pleasant way.
She looked like she was enjoying herself and having a pleasant time.

Actually I found Greta to be embarrassing. She kept on and on about "first dude", she should have canned it after 1 minute. Otherwise, yeah Todd come across as a real man's man and millions of Reagan Democrats will be able to connect to him as a man.

re: #61 jcm

Ad time in NJ/NY/Philadelphia costs a lot more the ad time in CO, OH, MI. This is going to hurt BHO financially - he has to buy time where its expensive - McCain where it is cheap.

re: #91 Racer X

Rush is on a roll.

Yes - the whole "Obama to seize the economy" thing needs a drubbing.

Exactly what experience or even educational background does Obama have that would let him be a loan officer, let alone CEO of the USA.

McCain chaired the Senate Commerce Committee.

What they're not saying is the poll was conducted of solely DKOS readers, amongst whom Barry only has 48%

re: #97 nyc redneck

did you just hear him mention that he has heard rumblings abt. hillary getting on board in oct.?
that would be such a bad move for her. she won't be able to stop the sinking ship.

That way, we can kill two buzzards with one election!

re: #97 nyc redneck

did you just hear him mention that he has heard rumblings abt. hillary getting on board in oct.?
that would be such a bad move for her. she won't be able to stop the sinking ship.

Not only that, but it would show 0bama as incapable of making an executive decision- I think it would backfire badly, but he's welcome to knock himself out by reeking of desperation.

re: #97 nyc redneck

did you just hear him mention that he has heard rumblings abt. hillary getting on board in oct.?
that would be such a bad move for her. she won't be able to stop the sinking ship.

Vote for Obama and get a toaster!

ROFLMAO!

c/o Rush

BTW - did Black George Bush leave the board?

Kos - Palin is dropping like a rock! Me wish it so!

Kos Hungry, Kos Kill!

re: #6 bushleague

Has Baghdad Bob joined the Kos Kids?

Nah, he's over at Al-Jazeera as a political commentator.

Obama praises Reagan

re: #81 Seattle Rep

#45 jcm
thanks for that. I was about to go look for the latest numbers too.

WA is in play too! Rossi's gonna' have coat tails for McCain. The Queen has pissed a lot of people including democrats off.

David Brooks says Palin is not qualified

Is Brooks supposed to be a conservative?

re: #103 karmic_inquisitor

Yes - the whole "Obama to seize the economy" thing needs a drubbing.

Exactly what experience or even educational background does Obama have that would let him be a loan officer, let alone CEO of the USA.

McCain chaired the Senate Commerce Committee.

Obama got 126K from Fannie and Freddie since 1996 does that count?

re: #112 jcm

WA is in play too! Rossi's gonna' have coat tails for McCain. The Queen has pissed a lot of people including democrats off.

I hope so. I'm tired of my socialist representation.

re: #112 jcm

WA is in play too! Rossi's gonna' have coat tails for McCain. The Queen has pissed a lot of people including democrats off.

I saw a bumper sticker that said 'Re-Elect Dino Rossi'

re: #117 Seattle Rep

I saw a bumper sticker that said 'Re-Elect Dino Rossi'

I think 2004 was stolen with illegal King County felon/dead/illegal alien votes...

Wow!

Ayers and Dohrn received rings from the North Vietnamese made from shot down American aircraft!

c/o Rush

re: #99 Sharmuta

The PUMAs already said they won't go for it.

she has earned some respect and credibility w/ the public. she can use that in the future. after what the dems have done to her, she owes them nothing.
obama has crapped himself. i hope she just watches in amusement.

re: #101 EIDE_Interface

Actually I found Greta to be embarrassing. She kept on and on about "first dude", she should have canned it after 1 minute. Otherwise, yeah Todd come across as a real man's man and millions of Reagan Democrats will be able to connect to him as a man.

Yeah, the "first dude" stuff was worth skipping.
I was still struck with her obvious delight and I learned a lot about snow machine racing. I picked up on the Piper super-cub being 50 years old, "no big deal" to Todd Palin, things like that. It was just an "oh by the way" type interview, and I really enjoyed it.
Sarah is not a pilot. Matter of fact, nobody cared. He's happy that "Sarah lets him participate" in racing, speeds of 120 mph (on the 700 cc job), what kind of gas mileage the machines get, how to prepare for adverse conditions.

I learned all kinds of things that were totally unimportant to the earth's movement, and I just enjoyed the series.

re: #80 EIDE_Interface

Kos Hungry! Kos Kill!

Kos say fire bad! Fire make global warming.

re: #88 karmic_inquisitor

Ha -- those are all mainstream outlets now? The Hill? Politico? Someone told me just the other day that the Weekly Standard isn't MSM, but now The New Republic is?

Fine.

Take a peek at the most legitimately mainstream outlets there -- USNWR, I guess, and New Republic -- and you'll notice they're using the Kos poll as a foil, to show that even among his dreamy-eyed admirers, he's losing.

Here's the deal: Yeah, anyone -- mainstream or not -- should be ashamed to city Daily Kos as a legit poll. Just don't expect it to show up on the front page of the Washington Post.

re: #93 Sharmuta

I'm still kind of shocked the koslings would only have 0bama up by four yet seem to be happy about it as though it's a decisive lead. Most polls margin of error is between 3% to 5%. But hey- if they feel justified to think the election is going their way, I'm not one to burst their bubble.

Someone pass then a bong, and maybe they won't notice until it's too late.

I read something yesterday, not sure where, that some people were certain that Bush "stole" the election because the exit polls showed Kerry winning. It's as if some folks think that polls are the real vote; and the real vote ought to be ignored if it ends up not matching the polls.

re: #119 Racer X

You have got to be kidding me! Where did that come from? Does he say? That's HUGE to us vets, let me tell ya...

re: #57 joncelli

That's a lot of tossup EVs...and we should be nervous that Virginia is so close. McCain really needs that one.

After you factor in the "Bradley effect," Obama's toast.

jwb - I'm shocked that a rabid left winger like Greta didn't feel compelled to ask himi a gotcha question.

re: #62 Ben Hur

Because it really was Jews posing as Arabs firing from Gaza on Sderote.

And I thought all this time that it was those pesky Methodists.

re: #126 lobo91

After you factor in the "Bradley effect," Obama's toast.

Yeah McCain will have at least 300 EV if not more.

In general, I don't mind when the lunatic leftists create an echo chamber to deceive themselves. Let them think nothing is wrong and their guy is ahead in the polls.

The more skewed their numbers, the better.

The only real problem is that when reality sinks in on election day, instead of realizing that their bogus polling was wrong all along, they point to election fraud as the only compelling reason why their guy lost.

re: #125 Cap'n DOC

You have got to be kidding me! Where did that come from? Does he say? That's HUGE to us vets, let me tell ya...

I did not hear him say where he got that info - and yes that is frickin disgusting!

re: #116 buzzsawmonkey

Road-Song of the Bandar-Log [Monkey-People]
. . .

Speaking of "monkey" people - here's another of Jill Greenberg's lovely photoshops

Strangely enough, I think this sort of bull probably motivates McCain -and his base- to work harder. Personally, I'm shocked that the Kos people even acknowledged that it could possibly be somewhat close. I was expecting something like "Obama 99.93%, Nader .07% McCain 0%, with a margin of error at 0%."

re: #127 EIDE_Interface

jwb - I'm shocked that a rabid left winger like Greta didn't feel compelled to ask himi a gotcha question.

Me too. I have never really associated the word "rabid" with her, though.
Her bias usually shows, but I wouldn't call her "rabid".

re: #8 Kosh's Shadow

If the poll is taken of people who go to Kos, then I'm surprised it isn't 0bama 110%.
What site ran the poll?

Acorn has Obama up 120%

re: #113 EIDE_Interface
From your link:

Sarah Palin has many virtues. If you wanted someone to destroy a corrupt establishment, she’d be your woman. But the constructive act of governance is another matter. She has not been engaged in national issues, does not have a repertoire of historic patterns and, like President Bush, she seems to compensate for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness.

Of course, being a mayor and then a govenor -which means, among other things, learning how to govern, how to put together a budget and find the means to fund the budget, how to allocate resources among the vastness of the geographically largest state in the nation and how to oversea numerouos governmental agencies, doesn't count.
Being a community orgainizer in Chicago, apparently, as Brooks would see it, is better training for the Presidency.
What an Asshat he is.

re: #113 EIDE_Interface

David Brooks says Palin is not qualified

Is Brooks supposed to be a conservative?

What an elitist snob he is. He prides himself with the studies of the arts of humanities yet can't bring himself to acknowledge that the 'other wing' of conservatism has it's merits too.
To him these 'folksy' people don't belong. What a condescending creep he is.

re: #132 reine.de.tout

Speaking of "monkey" people - here's another of Jill Greenberg's lovely photoshops

She's such a class act..../

re: #118 EIDE_Interface

I think 2004 was stolen with illegal King County felon/dead/illegal alien votes...

yeah, why was King County always last to tally votes? hmm..

Holy Crap!

Obama's Foul Weather Friends

As a gesture of solidarity, the Vietnamese who Dohrn met in Budapest presented her with a ring made from an American aircraft shot down over North Vietnam. Bill Ayers would receive a similar ring while meeting with Vietnamese communists in Toronto. He later recalled being so moved by the gesture that he "left the room to cry." He said, "I realized...America was an evil... and that I was... living inside the belly of the beast...."

re: #45 jcm

Dancing on Desk..........neeeeekid

re: #141 Seattle Rep

yeah, why was King County always last to tally votes? hmm..

Democrat party machine?

re: #137 taxfreekiller
It is true, it is and I'll do what I can my friend!

re: #144 EIDE_Interface

Democrat party machine?

Do they fill a specific order?

re: #134 jwb7605

Me too. I have never really associated the word "rabid" with her, though.
Her bias usually shows, but I wouldn't call her "rabid".

Yes, her bias shows, but I can recall that I've ever seen her act boorish or condescendingly toward people.

re: #113 EIDE_Interface

David Brooks says Palin is not qualified

Is Brooks supposed to be a conservative?

Fake conservative.

re: #132 reine.de.tout

Self portrait?

Sure, they don't want their supporters or donors to jump ship or lose interest if they think the candidate doesn't stand a chance in hell.

So they will hype all their big poll numbers exactly like they did with John Kerry--believing there was NO way Kerry could lose.

The same was done when GWB began to go up --the Dems conducted their own polls which showed Kerry way ahead.

re: #151 maddogg

Self portrait?

HA! Greenberg's, you mean, I'm sure?

re: #153 reine.de.tout

Certainly!

re: #113 EIDE_Interface

David Brooks says Palin is not qualified

Is Brooks supposed to be a conservative?

I actually don't disagree with him in principle. Palin has only been Governor for two years, and though admittedly, she has done a lot in that time to get credit for, she lacks the depth of experience present in some other likely Republican picks.

The problem with this analysis is that it isn't applicable to actually casting a vote. You can second-guess McCain's choice, but at this point the voters have to pick the best ticket.

If Palin (who actually has held elected executive office) is unqualified to be President now, then for sure Obama is unqualified, with the major caveat that Palin isn't actually running for President!

An inverted ticket (eg Biden-Obama vs. McCain-Palin) would be much more comparable in terms of experience levels, but as things are now, if experience is the determining factor, its a no-brainer which ticket is the stronger.

In fact, I recall that Move on published some poll that showed Lieberman would lose big time........some ridiculous figure that 80% of the voters in that district supported their Soros Democrat.

The were all excited about that.

re: #149 reine.de.tout

Yes, her bias shows, but I can recall that I've ever seen her act boorish or condescendingly toward people.

I assume you meant to type "can't", but the condescendingly part I don't really agree with. I think she gets that way in "lawyer mode" a lot, just in a different sense. In the "lawyer mode", I find her unpleasant.

Hahahaha!

Obama is taking his teleprompter to rodeo appearances.

c/o Rush

re: #121 jwb7605

Yeah, the "first dude" stuff was worth skipping.
I was still struck with her obvious delight and I learned a lot about snow machine racing. I picked up on the Piper super-cub being 50 years old, "no big deal" to Todd Palin, things like that. It was just an "oh by the way" type interview, and I really enjoyed it.
Sarah is not a pilot. Matter of fact, nobody cared. He's happy that "Sarah lets him participate" in racing, speeds of 120 mph (on the 700 cc job), what kind of gas mileage the machines get, how to prepare for adverse conditions.

I learned all kinds of things that were totally unimportant to the earth's movement, and I just enjoyed the series.

I loved it. Part two is tonight.

I think Todd would be an awesome campaigner.

Despite broken arm, First Dude crosses Iron Dog finish in fourth

By Tim Mowry Fairbanks Daily News-Miner

FAIRBANKS - Not only is he the First Dude, but Todd Palin is one tough dude.

The husband of Gov. Sarah Palin, or First Dude, as Alaskans have come to call him, survived a high-speed crash on Friday in which he broke his arm and had to be towed across the Chena River finish line in Fairbanks on Saturday after his snowmachine died, but he still finished the world's longest, toughest snowmachine race in fourth place.

Not bad considering that just the day before he was lying in the snow, curled up in the fetal position after crashing into a hidden barrel outside the village of Galena.

Of course, the governor would expect nothing less.

"The last thing he ever wants to do is scratch," she said as she waited for her husband to arrive in the sub-zero cold on the Chena River at Pike's Landing. "If there's any way he can finish the race, he's going to finish it."
...
The governor found out about the crash from people following the race on the Internet.

"I started getting e-mails from people saying, 'I'm sorry to hear about your husband' and 'I'm praying for you' and I said, 'Oh my God, what happened?"' she said, laughing.

It wasn't until Todd Palin called his wife from Galena shortly after the crash to tell her he was OK that she got the straight scoop. And even then, her husband left a few things out. "He said, 'I got bumped around a little bit,"' Gov. Palin said. "He didn't tell me he'd been to a clinic to get looked at or anything.'"

re: #159 buzzsawmonkey

Palin ain't got the book larnin', apparently. G-d knows what Brooks would have thought about Lincoln.

There is a divide over her which goes across political lines, but fractures along class lines. Conservative pundits who come from the Top School Consensus Machine are almost as uneasy about her as the leftwingers.

I got this "poll" in the e-mail yesterday from the RNC (I think it was).
I "voted" that Palin was an excellent choice for V.P.
They wanted comments. My comment was pretty short.
I wrote "Sarah Palin is too inexperienced to be politically corrupt".

IMO that sentiment sums up several concerns the Conservative pundits have.

re: #157 jwb7605

I assume you meant to type "can't", but the condescendingly part I don't really agree with. I think she gets that way in "lawyer mode" a lot, just in a different sense. In the "lawyer mode", I find her unpleasant.

Yes, I did mean to write "can't" (on a laptop, not accustomed to the keyboard).

I find in her "lawyer mode", she's like, well, a lawyer. I don't like the demeanor, but I don't think it's intended to be condescending, she's just doing what many lawyers do - asking a bunch of questions.

Neighbor of ours who is a lawyer came over while my hubby was using a chainsaw to clear out a downed tree. I heard the conversation - neighbor was asking one question after another - bang bang bang - just like Greta. Things like, "Did you have a plan in mind as to how you would cut this up?"
I mean, who asks questions like that? Lawyers. It's the training.

re: #44 doppelganglander

Note to Kos: texting your Facebook friends is not a valid polling methodology.

I was thinking of a polling headstones.

re: #143 CommonSense

Dancing on Desk..........neeeeekid

Put your clothes back on - we have until November and there's lots of campaigning to do. This is one heck of a close election.

umm if you can get a good reason out of them (7+ / 0-)

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without them waving their hand in your face and telling you they just don't wanna talk about it...which is what always happens with me. Reasons given? Well 95 % of Blacks are voting for Obama, he's a socialist, he goes to an Afro-centric church ( you get this from the literate ones ) and of course, he's a Muslim.....

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Of all the reasons listed by jeseydan; he does have one right; socialist. The rest went by the wayside long back.

I'd love to debate this guy. By inference, this would be at least one liberal that wouldn't resort to cursing and hollering when the Democrat talking points have been dispelled.

re: #113 EIDE_Interface

David Brooks says Palin is not qualified

Is Brooks supposed to be a conservative?

He loves CHina.

It's all over for the US because CHina has synchronized drummers.

re: #158 Racer X

Hahahaha!

Obama is taking his teleprompter to rodeo appearances.

c/o Rush

Saw that on Drudge too. As if there wasn't enough horse kaka around at rodeos already...

re: #164 reine.de.tout

Yes, I did mean to write "can't" (on a laptop, not accustomed to the keyboard).

I find in her "lawyer mode", she's like, well, a lawyer. I don't like the demeanor, but I don't think it's intended to be condescending, she's just doing what many lawyers do - asking a bunch of questions.

Neighbor of ours who is a lawyer came over while my hubby was using a chainsaw to clear out a downed tree. I heard the conversation - neighbor was asking one question after another - bang bang bang - just like Greta. Things like, "Did you have a plan in mind as to how you would cut this up?"
I mean, who asks questions like that? Lawyers. It's the training.

possibly. Maybe they became lawyers because their personality made them ask questions like that. :-)?

I think David Brooks has become a bit of a snob since he started writing a column for the NYT, and I think he's wrong about Palin. However, I have to defend two books of his that I've read and loved. "Bobos in Paradise" and "On Paradise Drive" are hilarious, insightful, and thought-provoking. "Bobos," in particular, nails down the dilemma of the "bohemian bourgeousie," those leftover hippies who make surprisingly large salaries in academia and non-profits and are still trying to cling to their left-wing values while living in suburbia. I recommend them both.

re: #165 buzzsawmonkey

In other words, she might actually mean it when she talks about changing things in Washington.

The smile and the gleam in McCain's eye's when he says "I can't WAIT to introduce her to Washington DC ..."

Yup.
Even better, I think McCain means it, too.

re: #172 Outrider

possibly. Maybe they became lawyers because their personality made them ask questions like that. :-)?

Well, yes, actually, probably so!

re: #131 Racer X

I wonder if they were perhaps wedding rings... I don't know how you go about Snoping that one, but if it's got legs it's going to walk. Anybody?

re: #155 looking closely
Please see my #136, above.

I remember when they said Gore took Florida in 2000. I thought to myself, "That can't be right." I looked it up and Bush was not only ahead in Florida, but he was ahead by thousands of votes when I checked. I remember when they said exit polls indicated that Kerry was going to win in a landslide. I ignored them, kept on working, comfortable with the knowledge that Bush was really winning, this time I didn't even check.
I believed that Obama would lose before I ever heard of Sarah Palin. Why? Because nobody will tell the truth in the polls. They can't. Neither the Hispanics, the Jews, or the Catholics will be too favorable to a black President. It's stupid, but I think, true. They will never admit it.
Of course, now, McCain will win in a landslide.

It's funny to hear them talk about experience, like they give a shit. Hillary? Riding her husbands coattails. What the hell has she done? Obama has done shit. A whole country full of experienced Democrats and these are their top runners? The only factors that matter are imagery and ideology and they know it. That is why they run who they run. But now they have just been butchered in the imagery department, and all they can do is go into denial and make it worse. Sarah Palin is flawed? Which of their politicians isn't? Joe Biden's "experience" led him to note how "clean and articulate" Obama is. Yes, what a shock, Joe, not like all those other - whoops! What the hell would a guy like this say to Putin? Experience? Me and 50 other people who post here would make great Presidents. Native intelligence, principles, and sensible ideology is all that is necessary. But maybe we wouldn't do so well with the imagery.

Another thing going on: They are angry that their attempt to define the "liberated woman" as an ideological leftist is now a thing of the past.

re: #135 debutaunt

Acorn has Obama up 120%

Does that include the dead voters?

I hate when I have to give Kos a unique hit by clicling a link......ARGH!

re: #179 Kosh's Shadow

Does that include the dead voters?

No doubt, I would throw in some unregistered ones too.

re: #179 Kosh's Shadow

Does that include the dead voters?

Just the multiple voters in that poll.

LGF Poll shows McCain up by 42%

re: #183 right_wing2

LGF Poll shows McCain up by 42%

My LGF poll shows McCain at 98% with 2% Trolls for Obama

Kansas- Hi, neighbor! Good poll numbers there.

"Daily Kos: 9/16 Daily Kos R2K Tracking Poll: Obama 48, McCain 44."

Bwahaahaaaaaaaaaaaa

Among the tings I have learned from The Daily Kos is that Hamas is the last hope for peace in the middle east.

Are the KOS results percentages, or do they only get 100 readers a day?

re: #24 JamesTKirk

re: #24 JamesTKirk

According to my latest figures, the Klingon demographic, which was originally tied between both parties (finding both McCain and Obama lacking in honor), supports Palin by 67%, which a margin of error of batleth-in-your-face.

Dammit Jim. I'm a doctor, not a pollster!

I think that people lie to pollsters is not because they want to hide their bigotry as that they are sick of polls and sick of their invasion of their privacy. I have always answered pollsters honestly but I like to tell my opinions to anyone who asks politely. But even I am getting sick of them.

They probably just made it up lol

re: #116 buzzsawmonkey

I'm kind of personable to the story of Pinocchio in it when the young boys are led to an island where any thing goes and one can get away with anything (as long as its considered a victimless crime) Sounds like what the Dem's want to allow to happen in the US but if we learn anything from the story the boys all turn into jackasses.

re: #66 joncelli

No joke. We may as well change our state slogan to "Property of the DNC." Or, as my fiancee put it, "Property of the Girly Men."

and there poll is still within the margin of error.

re: #45 jcm

Kos kiddies, how you like these apples...

Rasmussen latest Poll?

PA McCain 47% Obama 47%
CO McCain 48% Obama 46%
FL McCain 49% Obama 44%
OH McCain 48% Obama 45%
VA McCAin 48% Obama 48%

RCP Average?
McCain 46.2 Obama 44.7

RCP Electoral toss up map?
Obama/Biden 207
McCain/Palin 227
Toss Up 104

Yup, the only ones that count - Rasmussen.