Denial is a really long river.

In fact the statement seemed very credible, with little motive for prevarication.

Did not.

Wendy Morigi ... prepare to take the plunge under the bus ...

Because scoring political points by denying Bush any credit is more important than the lives of soldiers.

It's treasonous and un-American.

Denial is above her pay grade.

0bama Quisling

Heh.

Obama, a liar and a fraud, nothing more, nothing less.

They didn't ask for a delay, they just asked them to take longer. Completely different. You would see that if you were more nuanced.

//

Yet another reason to question Obama's character and fitness to be President of the United States.

I don't think this will stick but I don't think it has to. Obama has nothing left to show. His hand is played. He will not become the things he would have to be to win in the next month and one half. McCain still needs to fight and he will. But this is looking more and more like a very bad loss for the Democrats.

This will be front page material for the NYT. Right?
/

The bigger question is who advised him to make this move. I don't see him having the smarts or nads himself.

WHY isn't this a bigger story? Why hasn't every talk radio, right-of-center blogger talking about this? I appreciate you putting up this story, Charles. Now we need everyone else to do it.

Repealing Nafta/Canada Redux.

Logan Act? We don't got no Logan Act! We don't need no steenkin' Logan Act!

Obama’s national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi said Taheri’s article bore “as much resemblance to the truth as a McCain campaign commercial.”

In fact, Obama had told the Iraqis that they should not rush through a “Strategic Framework Agreement” governing the future of US forces until after President George W. Bush leaves office, she said.

Didn't she just confirm McCain commercials are true & factual?

Rush on it just now.

My fantasy:

November 4th - McCain wins landslide.
November 5th - BHO in handcuffs for violation of the Logan Act
November 6th - Isreal makes new smoking holes in Iran. GWB pretends not to notice.

McCain ad: Obama wants to put off withdrawal until after the election.

Obama response: I do not! I want to put off withdrawal until after the election and the inauguration.

Hey, good for Taheri and the Post. That's good stuff.

Anybody know when the debates are? McCain needs another injection of publicity since the convention bounce is slowing down.

US foreign policy undermining we can believe in!

re: #14 maddogg

Wrong.

It will be front page material. It will be 30 paragraphs of how the Obama campaign is getting smeared by McCain, and the next to last paragraph will note that everything that Taheri stated was accurate, without commenting that there was no smear involved, just reporting the facts (such as they were) that Obama was engaging in altering the foreign policy of a foreign country for his personal benefit.

re: #21 Lizard by the Bay

PIMF, yes, I do know that it's spelled "Israel".

Couldn't that be construed as a form of treason? Asking a foreign government to perform some action with the hope of damaging the current administration and influencing a US election? Isn't that what they accused Reagan doing re: the Iran hostage crisis?

re: #21 Lizard by the Bay

My fantasy:

November 4th - McCain wins landslide.
November 5th - BHO in handcuffs for violation of the Logan Act
November 6th - Isreal makes new smoking holes in Iran. GWB pretends not to notice.

Don't Bogart that joint, my friend......

re: #15 mbruce

The bigger question is who advised him to make this move. I don't see him having the smarts or nads himself.

Winnie the Pooh?

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You were channeling Kerry. That's a period, not a question mark, in case you think your eyes are deceiving you.

re: #27 Lizard by the Bay

PIMF, yes, I do know that it's spelled "Israel".

Its ok. There used to be a pro-Israel campagin Israel is real, so it works anyway.

re: #2 The Other Les

Denial is a really long river.

It sure as hell ain't in Egypt.

Samantha Powers tried this two-faced tack already, and there went another feminist icon, overboard.

Somewhere Hillary is probably kicking herself that she managed to get beat by Obama in the primaries. /

Wendy Morigi said Taheri’s article bore “as much resemblance to the truth as a McCain campaign commercial.”

In a way, she's completely right.

The other way, though.

re: #16 vxbush

WHY isn't this a bigger story? Why hasn't every talk radio, right-of-center blogger talking about this? I appreciate you putting up this story, Charles. Now we need everyone else to do it.

Hit the Buzz button.

LMAO! The title of the AFP's article is "Obama camp hits back at Iraq double-talk claim"? Talk about irony.

re: #19 Kenneth

Didn't she just confirm McCain commercials are true & factual?

She did, but I don't think she realized it.

re: #13 tokyobk

I don't think this will stick but I don't think it has to. Obama has nothing left to show. His hand is played. He will not become the things he would have to be to win in the next month and one half. McCain still needs to fight and he will. But this is looking more and more like a very bad loss for the Democrats.

Uh, Obama's own spokesperson admits that Obama asked them to take longer, until after the elections.

This coming from the man who has done everything to de-fund and bash our troops, and everything to try and insure America loses in Iraq.

Some people have very short, tiny memories.

He is FOR the surge, after he was against it.

re: #35 lawhawk

Somewhere Hillary is probably kicking herself that she managed to get beat by Obama in the primaries. /

Revenge is a dish best served cold. The Clintons don't mind laying in wait.

What's good for Obama is...good for Obama.

So, like, do official representatives of the current administration in the White House have secret handshakes they have to give with foreign officials so the other countries know who is legitimately speaking on behalf of the administration?

At least plead the fifth until the tapes come out. Obama's media operation really isn't ready for prime time.

They just skipped to step four and basically plead to a lesser charge.

1st Ignore it, make McCain force the issue
2nd Refuse to discuss, private conversations with leaders, try to evoke privilege where non exists.
- Release of tape -
3rd Shock and outrage that you were recorded
4th Misunderstanding and language differences
5th Reasonable policy differences and legitimate dispute between Executive and Legislative branches.

I did not say that before I said it!

I'm just glad the MSM will pursue this story with all the vigor and integrity that they're currently using to investigate the "Troopergate" story.

I mean .. they will, right?

re: #21 Lizard by the Bay

My fantasy:

November 4th - McCain wins landslide.
November 5th - BHO in handcuffs for violation of the Logan Act
November 6th - Isreal makes new smoking holes in Iran. GWB pretends not to notice.

From your keyboard to God's ears.

AFP?

The Barry camp will claim mis-translation.

Wendy Morigi is a dope.

Wendy Morigi, come on down.
You'll be the next contestant Under-The-Bus.

re: #40 republic

Uh, Obama's own spokesperson admits that Obama asked them to take longer, until after the elections.

This coming from the man who has done everything to de-fund and bash our troops, and everything to try and insure America loses in Iraq.

Some people have very short, tiny memories.

But it won't stick. He will wiggle out of it as a specific thing. Though I do not believe he will regain his mojo.This particular issue will not take him down, imo.

Obama’s Questionable Traitorous Diplomacy in Iraq

He believes in diplomacy, and he can see the White House from his campaign bus.

re: #35 lawhawk

Somewhere Hillary is probably kicking herself throwing a lamp at Bill that she managed to get beat by Obama in the primaries. /

fixed that for you

In fact, Obama had told the Iraqis that they should not rush through a “Strategic Framework Agreement” governing the future of US forces until after President George W. Bush leaves office, she said.

I'm confused, this is exactly what we thing is the egregious part of the story. And their denial is a confirmation ... Is this like some kind of mass hypnosis thing ... is there something subliminal that I'm missing ... I'm of Irish descent, so hypnosis won't work on me ... I need to know what I'm missing here.

His campaign is starting to give circular firing squads a bad name.

re: #49 Ben Hur

AFP?

The Barry camp will claim mis-translation.

From what to what? Ebonics to English?

Sheesh.

re: #45 de La Valette

At least plead the fifth until the tapes come out. Obama's media operation really isn't ready for prime time.

They just skipped to step four and basically plead to a lesser charge.

1st Ignore it, make McCain force the issue
2nd Refuse to discuss, private conversations with leaders, try to evoke privilege where non exists.
- Release of tape -
3rd Shock and outrage that you were recorded
4th Misunderstanding and language differences
5th Reasonable policy differences and legitimate dispute between Executive and Legislative branches.

Meet the Dems' Richard Nixon, only without all that tedious experience!

What is long thin sluggish and all wet?
Obamadenial

re: #16 vxbush

WHY isn't this a bigger story? Why hasn't every talk radio, right-of-center blogger talking about this? I appreciate you putting up this story, Charles. Now we need everyone else to do it.

Rush just talked about it.

It's kind of tough to talk about 200 different Obama gaffes and insane issues.

There are so many.

They come fast and they come often, which is the chief tactic of deceit.

Obama is ONE big gaffe.

Homer Simpson is smarter than Obama.

Barry Camp responds:

Sarah Palin and her pregant teen daughter have never taken their Down's Syndrome child/brother to Iraq.

Is it just me, or are these subtle nuances of Dem speak just too subtly nuanced?

Obama said the president was belatedly coming round to his own way of thinking, but also accused Bush of "tinkering around the edges" and "kicking the can down the road to the next president."

What a low down dirty rat! He tried to push them into this very situation so he could smear President Bush! What a hypocrite!

Oh- and apologies to rats everywhere.

This is a job for "The Rovian One" - Nobama is trapped because there is objective evidence he committed essentially an act of treason. And that will place him in a pincer grip. The question is how...? These things are very delicate. So many ways to disinfect the situation... your thoughts, Karl?

These guys can't even handle a denial or even a non denial denial and they think they are up to American Foreign Policy?

Hackers block Qaeda’s 9/11 terror on tape

Hackers prevented Al Qaeda from releasing a videotape to mark the seventh anniversary of 9/11. Al Qaeda has traditionally issued a video or audiotape by either Osama bin Laden or Ayman al Zawahiri, the terror network’s two leaders, to mark their massive terrorist attack on the US.

As-Sahab, Al Qaeda’s media unit, had indicated earlier this week that it would post such a videotape on September 11. As-Sahab had banner images on the internet showing a silhouetted head with a question mark and the words, “Wait 11 September”.

The US-based intelligence group IntelCenter had speculated the video would be a message from Osama or Zawahiri with a recording of the last will and testament of Mohammed Atta, one of the leaders of the 9/11 attackers.

Sources close to US intelligence said, “Hackers knocked out Al Qaeda’s online means of communication, thus preventing them from posting anything to commemorate the anniversary.”

re: #37 MandyManners

Done. I also buzzed up Hot Air's story on the same topic, which already had 275 votes.

I predict this will be discussed on Fox All-Stars tonight.

Um - isn't this illegal?

re: #15 mbruce

The bigger question is who advised him to make this move. I don't see him having the smarts or nads himself.

Same person who told him that the lip stick on a pig line would be a great rejoinder.
/McCain double agent?

We need to send 300 people to Iraq to investigate this, as they do Sarah Palin in Alaska.

Or is this the result of 300 dem foreign policy experts' best professional advice?

re: #56 celtic templar

I'm confused, this is exactly what we thing is the egregious part of the story. And their denial is a confirmation ... Is this like some kind of mass hypnosis thing ... is there something subliminal that I'm missing ... I'm of Irish descent, so hypnosis won't work on me ... I need to know what I'm missing here.

Its a double reverse fake out admission and it will work because his supporters will hear what they want to hear and he tacitly admits it so he can deny that it is itself an indefensible action.

re: #62 Ward Cleaver

Homer Simpson is smarter than Obama.

Obama: Mmm, waffles. D'oh!

re: #52 tokyobk

But it won't stick. He will wiggle out of it as a specific thing. Though I do not believe he will regain his mojo.This particular issue will not take him down, imo.

A guy last night on FoxNews declared that the media wasn't biased for Obama because "of how they went on and on about the lipstick on a pig comment."

They are so used to the media burying THEIR gaffes in 6 hours, that they think one that was on the front burner for two whole days is "on and on."

Sir, may I direct your attention to 42 straight days of Abu Ghraib headlines?

re: #65 Sharmuta

"tinkering around the edges" and "kicking the can down the road to the next president."

Iraq.
Osama Bin Laden.

Cans kicked by Bill Clinton.

re: #70 Catttt

Um - isn't this illegal?

Yep. The Logan Act.

re: #26 lawhawk

Wrong.

It will be front page material. It will be 30 paragraphs of how the Obama campaign is getting smeared by McCain, and the next to last paragraph will note that everything that Taheri stated was accurate, without commenting that there was no smear involved, just reporting the facts (such as they were) that Obama was engaging in altering the foreign policy of a foreign country for his personal benefit.

Well, of course. Those damn Rethuglicans are smearing Barry with the truth. What a dirty trick, using truth that is verifiable, rather than lies, which is all the leftists have. Most unfair.

re: #37 MandyManners

Hit the Buzz button.

Done.

re: #42 tokyobk

Revenge is a dish best served cold. The Clintons don't mind laying in wait.

Hillary's own party/delegates/msm are who through her under the bus.

She didn't get beat, her own party insured that Obama would win.

If America could only understand what these people really want to do to America, Hillary included.

re: #21 Lizard by the Bay

My fantasy:

November 4th - McCain wins landslide.
November 5th - BHO in handcuffs for violation of the Logan Act
November 6th - Isreal makes new smoking holes in Iran. GWB pretends not to notice.

Only if Olmerde, Livni, and the other appeasers are gone by then. When is the Israeli election?

re: #70 Catttt

Um - isn't this illegal?

No just mostly stupid.

re: #62 Ward Cleaver

Homer identified a basic truth.

Alcohol is the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.

That and he went home to Marge.

Obama must be hung like a whale, he keeps stepping on his dick.

re: #70 Catttt

Um - isn't this illegal?

It is, and he should be indicted. He won't be, but he should be.

re: #76 Ben Hur

Iraq.
Osama Bin Laden.

Cans kicked by Bill Clinton.

Monica Lewinsky - "Does this dress make my can look big?"

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Hackers block Qaeda’s 9/11 terror on tape

I would love to hear whining in Arabic?!?%&!

re: #61 republic

Rush just talked about it.

It's kind of tough to talk about 200 different Obama gaffes and insane issues.

There are so many.

They come fast and they come often, which is the chief tactic of deceit.

Obama is ONE big gaffe.

The next step is usually a "casual mention of a flap" by Brit Hume.
Next, a few "major networks" mention it.
Finally, see showc's post #52

re: #84 maddogg

Obama must be hung like a whale, he keeps stepping on his dick.

And tripping over it.

/garden hose

re: #86 Ward Cleaver

Monica Lewinsky - "Does this dress make my can look big?"

He kicked that can with a different leg.

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Hackers block Qaeda’s 9/11 terror on tape

I hope they managed to snag a copy of the tape. I'd like to see it, with MST3K-style comments.
"You and what camel?"
"You're going to do that while living in a cave?"
"Try that and we've got a hellfire with your name on it"

Good News for Obama? He Leads 48-45
Bad News? In New Jersey
—Ace

No, this isn't a repost. Last time I posted this headline it concerned a Marist poll.

Now it's a Qunnipiac poll with the exact same result (and two other polls also show NJ to be a dogfight).

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

Hey Wendy what about them apples?

re: #52 tokyobk

But it won't stick. He will wiggle out of it as a specific thing. Though I do not believe he will regain his mojo.This particular issue will not take him down, imo.

Not if McCain makes another very effective campaign commercial about it, which, I'm sure he will.

re: #59 Dark_Falcon

Meet the Dems' Richard Nixon, only without all that tedious experience!

* * *
Hey! Richard Milhous Nixon did his best to end the Vietnam War with honor, and with a loud bang in Hanoi during the Christmas Bombings.

is the State of Denyal close to the State of Insanity?

54th and 55th state?

re: #86 Ward Cleaver

Monica Lewinsky - "Does this dress make my can look big?"

No. Your ass does a fine job of that by itself.

Obama said the president was belatedly coming round to his own way of thinking, but also accused Bush of "tinkering around the edges" and "kicking the can down the road to the next president."

This really pisses me off! He pushed the Iraqis to do this so he could play politics. He's scum toying with the lives of our troops and allies. He's not fit to be garbage warden.

NYTIMES headline:

Obama Wants to Extend Troop Presence in Iraq.

/OK, I'll pass it to the left.

This is not the "rushed Strategic Framework Agreement" that I remember...

re: #59 Dark_Falcon

Meet the Dems' Richard Nixon, only without all that tedious experience!

I think it is a variation of your number 4, a combination of feigned ignorance and admission to the facts as a denial that they are significant to guilt.

"Yes, dear, you did see me come out of that hotel with a scantily dressed woman. We were talking the whole time about feminism and equal rights and how terrible adultry is and how much I love my wife and children."

They have admitted the treasonous facts while not admitting that they are indicitive of treason or that they even have reason to think that they are. But of course, they do.

re: #84 maddogg

Obama must be hung like a whale, he keeps stepping on his dick.

Isn't a whale's penis called a "dork"? Appropriate.

re: #80 republic

Hillary's own party/delegates/msm are who through her under the bus.

She didn't get beat, her own party insured that Obama would win.

If America could only understand what these people really want to do to America, Hillary included.

PIMF!

threw, NOT THROUGH!

/head in hands

re: #84 maddogg

Obama must be hung like a whale, he keeps stepping on his dick.

He must have replied to one of those SPAM emails I keep deleting.

re: #94 alegrias

* * *
Hey! Richard Milhous Nixon did his best to end the Vietnam War with honor, and with a loud bang in Hanoi during the Christmas Bombings.

Linebacker II!

Obama Jedi Mind Trick:
You should not rush to withdraw

Some stuff I posted earlier on this at Ace (Jean as in Jean de La Valette, it would be great if we could crosspost and keep same NICs on several blogs.)

1. You can bet the Iraqis ran tape during that meeting, and I would wager that somebody on the Republican side has heard it. Barry O had better be very careful with his response, even the networks won't be able to resist the One cutting a deal.

2. I wonder if the One had still been ahead in the polls if the Iraqis would have held this as a trump card for use during the Obama administration.

3. Brings up another point, I wonder what tape the Syrians (and probably the Mossad by now) have on other Democrats.

4. Unfortunately, the Logan Act falls into the category of laws, like the War Powers Act, that only matter in the Court of Public Opinion. I don't think either will ever be tested in a courtroom.

5. This also puts Bob Woodward's claim of eavesdropping on senior Iraqis in a new light.

Your text to link...

re: #95 Eowyn2

is the State of Denyal close to the State of Insanity?

54th and 55th state?

57, Islamic states.

Barack Obama, "My Muslim faith."

How nuanced. No matter what the campaign says now, and no matter what he meant then, the issue is that he shouldn't have been in such a position to say what he said to start with. The Chosen One's first act playing the role of a quasi-legitimate world leader, and he whiffs it. 0bama is hack actor on a world stage.

re: #90 Honorary Yooper

He kicked that can with a different leg.

C'mon.

He didn't kick the can.

The can kicked him!

re: #97 Sharmuta

This really pisses me off! He pushed the Iraqis to do this so he could play politics. He's scum toying with the lives of our troops and allies. He's not fit to be garbage warden.

In Britain the Garbage Warden is more feared than a first term Senator who was never even mayor of a small town.

re: #93 republic

Not if McCain makes another very effective campaign commercial about it, which, I'm sure he will.

republic -- love your nic and your comments.

Yes, I have learned not to underestimate our old soldier!

re: #55 Kenneth
Hey Kenneth - mentioned this on the prior thread but don't know if you saw it - Please check your e-mail!

re: #65 Sharmuta

What a low down dirty rat! He tried to push them into this very situation so he could smear President Bush! What a hypocrite!

Oh- and apologies to rats everywhere.

* * *
COWARDLY SIMPERING WIMP~pinning the tail on the Elephants, trying to leave no footprints.

WIMP FACTOR times TEN.

re: #87 wright1

I would love to hear whining in Arabic?!?%&!

rusty is my hero

re: #98 Ben Hur

NYTIMES headline:

Obama Wants to Extend Troop Presence in Iraq.

/OK, I'll pass it to the left.

NYT building implodes, vaporizes.

re: #94 alegrias

* * *
Hey! Richard Milhous Nixon did his best to end the Vietnam War with honor, and with a loud bang in Hanoi during the Christmas Bombings.

Point taken. I was referring to his illegal actions and lies. I should have been clearer.

re: #110 pat

In Britain the Garbage Warden is more feared than a first term Senator who was never even mayor of a small town.

Like I said- he's not fit for that job.

When The Obama asks for tribute, you better pay it.

He might make you listen to Warren Christopher and Madeline Albright.

So he was against it before he was for it? Or for it while he was against it? This is Sen. Hopenchange playing the same dirty Chicago-style politics on a global scale. Why are the American people so dense that the race is still close?

What she said

re: #114 Eowyn2

rusty is my hero

Major props to Rusty, and Aaron at Internet Haganah.

re: #105 Racer X

Obama Jedi Sith Mind Trick:
You should not rush to withdraw

Fixed.

re: #108 Pullus Iulius
Spot on Post. Thanks.

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Hackers block Qaeda’s 9/11 terror on tape

* * *
Thread worthy! Win one for the Gipper! Yay, Hackers for the Good Guys.

re: #118 taxfreekiller

Not a thin dimes worth of difference between Obama and Lt. for life John F. Kerry, some tone difference, but under both of the empty suits, lies and fraud, thats all.

..and a fondness for the number 57...

Obama’s national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi said Taheri’s article bore “as much resemblance to the truth as a McCain campaign commercial.”

Yeah- keep it up lady.

On Sex-Ed Ad, McCain Is Right

re: #109 Ben Hur

C'mon.

He didn't kick the can.

The can kicked him!

In Soviet Russia, can kicks you!

re: #108 Pullus Iulius

How nuanced. No matter what the campaign says now, and no matter what he meant then, the issue is that he shouldn't have been in such a position to say what he said to start with. The Chosen One's first act playing the role of a quasi-legitimate world leader, and he whiffs it. 0bama is hack actor on a world stage.

No, Obama is a typical modern Democrat.

re: #119 Dar ul Harb
ARRRGGGGH NO, anything but that!
LOL!

Qunnipiac is a left leaning poll (it will artificially inflate dem numbers). The only ones to trust are Rasmussen and Zogby.

re: #92 Nevergiveup

Good News for Obama? He Leads 48-45
Bad News? In New Jersey
—Ace

No, this isn't a repost. Last time I posted this headline it concerned a Marist poll.

Now it's a Qunnipiac poll with the exact same result (and two other polls also show NJ to be a dogfight).

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

Hey Wendy what about them apples?

0bamessiah miracle

OT: Oil keeps falling. It should bounce in the low 80s. JMO, but it may settle in down in the 70s after the bounce.

re: #131 Guy_Philly

Qunnipiac is a left leaning poll (it will artificially inflate dem numbers). The only ones to trust are Rasmussen and Zogby.

That's even better if it is left leaning, then McCain might even be closer. NJ has not been in play in many years.

re: #129 republic

No, Obama is a typical modern Democrat.

We need a Gilbert and Sullivan parody:
I am the model of a modern major Democrat
(don't have time at this moment to write it)

re: #129 republic
Ah "No, Obama is a typical modern Democrat Leftist."
Thought I'd fix that for ya - except for Zell, I think the Democrat party has finally yeilded to the extreme far left fringe elements and should therefore be renamed the Left Party.
Hope you don't mind!

re: #134 Nevergiveup

That's even better if it is left leaning, then McCain might even be closer. NJ has not been in play in many years.

Very true!

re: #131 Guy_Philly

Qunnipiac is a left leaning poll (it will artificially inflate dem numbers). The only ones to trust are Rasmussen and Zogby.

Be sure to differentiate "Zogby" and "Zogby Interactive" . ZI has wildly variable numbers.

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

Point taken. I was referring to his illegal actions and lies. I should have been clearer.

* * *
Sorry, it's a sore point with me that Nixon's character failings besmirched his presidency and achievements during the Cold War and tough times.

While the WashPost's Ben Bradlee and his smug wife Sally Quinn are still committing character assasinations on Sarah Palin and other Republicans they don't like, trying to take down public servants they dislike to install Camelot Part Deux (not).

On a happy note. Dow up 12 points and Crude Oil at 91.35.

re: #132 DaddyO

0bamessiah miracle

Ahhh, there is no difference between the two.....
Mythbusted!
/

re: #119 Dar ul Harb

When The Obama asks for tribute, you better pay it.

He might make you listen to Warren Christopher and Madeline Albright.

Whenever I think of Warren Christopher I think of that Star Trek episode where some former captain of the Enterpise is in a semi-coma and pushes buttons to talk

Well none of this matters because the all knowing kos now has his poll at:

Obama 48%
McCain 44%

WTF?

re: #97 Sharmuta

This really pisses me off! He pushed the Iraqis to do this so he could play politics. He's scum toying with the lives of our troops and allies. He's not fit to be garbage warden.

* * *
But he was fit enough for Chicago standards!

The wiki on the Logan Act, says there have been zero prosecutions.

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).

Does this classify as being hoisted by their own petard?

re: #141 jorline

On a happy note. Dow up 12 points and Crude Oil at 91.35.

I don't even drink but I'll drink to that!

re: #145 Typicalwhitey

Well none of this matters because the all knowing kos now has his poll at:

Obama 48%
McCain 44%

WTF?

I predict a "Dewey defeats Truman" moment at Kos

re: #113 alegrias
Hey my friend "WIMP FACTOR times ONE HUNDRED."
Thought I'd fix that for ya!

re: #145 Typicalwhitey

Well none of this matters because the all knowing kos now has his poll at:

Obama 48%
McCain 44%

WTF?

They are projecting - that is what you do in therapy

Meaning of Life hospital scene.

Mother giving birth: What should I do?

Doctor: Nothing! YOU'RE NOT QUALIFIED!

re: #143 jcm

Ahhh, there is no difference between the two.....
/

Why's American beer like makin' love in a canoe ?

'cause it's fuc*ing close to water !

re: #111 tokyobk

republic -- love your nic and your comments.

Yes, I have learned not to underestimate our old soldier!

Thank you!

McCain has the luxury of just doing what he is supposed to be doing, calmly, with confidence and fortitude, while the entire 2500 employee Obama Corporation, along with the entire msm are running around like they are chickens with their heads cut off.

All the Thorazine in the world won't slow them down.

It's actually quite funny.

re: #54 alegrias

As close as he's goin' to get if I have any say in the matter.

re: #112 realwest

got it, thanks.

I have work to do in PA ... it is time to come out of the closet in my newspaper column and give McCain Palin a subtle plug (again). I just hope it slips past the editors.

re: #95 Eowyn2

is the State of Denyal close to the State of Insanity?

54th and 55th state?

I've heard of Altered States of Consciousness.

re: #148 lifeofthemind

re: #148 lifeofthemind

No time like the present

re: #141 jorline

On a happy note. Dow up 12 points and Crude Oil at 91.35.

McCain should be keeping a close eye on this and take advantage ASAP. he should be saying that Thank God Hurricane Ivan wasn't worse, but one the refineries are back up and running coupled with the dropping crude prices the prices at the pumps should get back to a more acceptable amount SOON!

re: #118 taxfreekiller

Not a thin dimes worth of difference between Obama and Lt. for life John F. Kerry, some tone difference, but under both of the empty suits, lies and fraud, thats all.

I actually hold Obama in higher esteem than Kerry.

When Obama meets with communists, terrorists, and those who wish to overthrow our government, he isn't wearing the uniform of his nation.

-From the "Always Find Something Nice To Say About Everyone" files.

re: #149 Sharmuta
It certainly does, though I'd suggest a change from Petard, but don't want to be indecent out here! LOL!

IOW:

McCain team: Obama told them to delay.

Obama team: He did not! He told them to delay!

MSM: Obama debunks smear.

Folks- be sure to Buzz this story.

re: #115 Ward Cleaver

Please no... the building is nice enough - and in a great location.

Now if Bill Keller and Pinch would exit stage left, that would be good enough.

re: #151 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I predict a "Dewey defeats Truman" moment at Kos

I hope McCain wins for a variety of reasons but ONE of those is that the people on that website are the most hateful group I have ever seen.

They talk about "payback" and very few just have a difference of opinion. Most absolutely HATE Republicans.
One posted a diary yesterday about how he "went off" on his 87 year old father because he didn't want to vote for Obama.

Pathetic

re: #107 republic

re: #95 Eowyn2

is the State of Denyal close to the State of Insanity?

54th and 55th state?

57, Islamic states.

Barack Obama, "My Muslim faith."

I think the State of Insanity was the 1st Muslim State and the State of Denyal was the 2nd.

Psychotic State of Mind was the third.

help me out here people

re: #145 Typicalwhitey

Well none of this matters because the all knowing kos now has his poll at:

Obama 48%
McCain 44%

WTF?

That's among koskiddies.......

re: #164 Silhouette
Boy I'll betcha had to dig deep into those files to come up with that one! LOL!

Nasty operatives going after the Republican Party in a very dirty way

re: #24 joncelli

Okay, I'm going to answer my own question:

First presidential debate:
Friday, September 26
University of Mississippi, Oxford, MS

Vice presidential debate:
Thursday, October 2
Washington University in St. Louis, MO

Second presidential debate:
Tuesday, October 7
Belmont University, Nashville, TN

Third presidential debate:
Wednesday, October 15
Hofstra University, Hempstead, NY

Folks, I'm not mentioning this because I'm a killjoy, despite what my wife says. (/) I mention this because, as William Katz notes,

The first tracker of the day is out. Rasmussen reports McCain with a one-point lead. He was up two yesterday, three the day before. We're seeing the same pattern here as with the Gallup tracker - McCain is beginning to lose support. It's a small loss so far, and may merely reflect the end of his convention bounce. But trouble in the economy and the relentless press assault against Sarah Palin may also have their impact.

There's still plenty of time in which McCain can lose. 49 days is an eternity in presidential races. Don't get cocky!

re: #71 pat

Same person who told him that the lip stick on a pig line would be a great rejoinder.
/McCain double agent?

ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

re: #151 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I think those numbers were from the Democrat convention.

re: #119 Dar ul Harb

When The Obama asks for tribute, you better pay it.

He might make you listen to Warren Christopher and Madeline Albright.

there goes my lunch

Obama is at such a disadvantage in this campaign. He can't tell the truth about anything. His past with ACORN, what he said to the Iraqis, where he wants the re-education camps built after he wins...

re: #153 realwest

Hey Real!
I just want to tell you how much I enjoy your posts on here.
You are a prize my friend.

re: #168 Sharmuta

Folks- be sure to Buzz this story.

Can you do that without signing up?

re: #165 ploome hineni

..we are watching a mass hypnosis

There is no other way to put it.

Critics say, "Obama asked for a delay" and his spokesmen says, "Lies! He merely asked for a delay."

And millions hear that and think the critics have been proven to be liars.

re: #136 realwest

Ah "No, Obama is a typical modern Democrat Leftist."
Thought I'd fix that for ya - except for Zell, I think the Democrat party has finally yeilded to the extreme far left fringe elements and should therefore be renamed the Left Party.
Hope you don't mind!

Don't mind at all realwest.

Don't forget John F'ing Murtha!

re: #163 sattv4u2

McCain could further say that the hurricane once again reinforces the need to build new refineries outside of the Gulf Coast - spreading the risk of loss from any one single storm or natural disaster. More refineries means that you get to take advantage of the latest technologies and put more product into circulation. It's an infrastructure upgrade that is sorely needed.

re: #140 alegrias

* * *
Sorry, it's a sore point with me that Nixon's character failings besmirched his presidency and achievements during the Cold War and tough times.

While the WashPost's Ben Bradlee and his smug wife Sally Quinn are still committing character assasinations on Sarah Palin and other Republicans they don't like, trying to take down public servants they dislike to install Camelot Part Deux (not).

Agreed. And its a sad testament to the cultural power of the left that Nixon is the first president that came to mind when I thought of dishonesty. Upon reflection, Obama is in a league all his own. No real preparation for the job he seeks coupled with utter disregard for the truth.

re: #172 jcm
Hey my friend - are you suggesting that McCain gets 44% among the koskidz?
Can't be true - unless they all secretly wanted Hillary!

And by the way, the last time I heard of Wendy Morigi, she was following Sen. Jay Rockefeller with the figurative political pooper scooper. Now she's doing the same for 0bama. I'm glad to see basic job skills carry over.

re: #148 lifeofthemind

re: #157 republic

Thank you!

McCain has the luxury of just doing what he is supposed to be doing, calmly, with confidence and fortitude, while the entire 2500 employee Obama Corporation, along with the entire msm are running around like they are chickens with their heads cut off.

All the Thorazine in the world won't slow them down.

It's actually quite funny.

I guess that's what happens when the entire NObama is based on hype and gloom and doom of the American economy (not the Democrats understand capitalism) but it's an excellent talking point.

re: #185 lawhawk

DING DING DING

re: #181 jwb7605

Can you do that without signing up?

You need a yahoo account.

But I think exposing this story to a wider audience and defeating 0bama is worth the effort.

re: #80 republic

Hillary's own party/delegates/msm are who through her under the bus.

She didn't get beat, her own party insured that Obama would win.

If America could only understand what these people really want to do to America, Hillary included.

Pelosi. Don't know if Blinky couldn't stand losing alpha-female status in the abstract, or it's something personal between her and the Hildebeast, but I think she had a lot to do with the sub-busification (what's the under-the-bus version of "defenestrate"?).

re: #167 kynna

IOW:

McCain team: Obama told them to delay.

Obama team: He did not! He told them to delay!

MSM: Obama debunks smear.

wow, that's exactly how I read it.

re: #182 buzzsawmonkey

That's taking "fisting" to a whole other level.

giving head literally

re: #170 Typicalwhitey

One posted a diary yesterday about how he "went off" on his 87 year old father because he didn't want to vote for Obama.

Well, his political hero started this campaign by calling his own little old grandmother a racist, in order to save his own but and defend slime like Rev. Wright.

re: #154 wright1

They are projecting - that is what you do in therapy

Actually, considering that is a Daily Kos poll, of Kos members, I'd say Obama is in very serious trouble!

:)

re: #187 realwest

Hey my friend - are you suggesting that McCain gets 44% among the koskidz?
Can't be true - unless they all secretly wanted Hillary!

That was a little sarc, but who else is going vote at kos?
/

Hell if NJ and WA are toss ups, PA is tied you never know.

Obama just can't stand the idea of Bush getting the credit for winning, and pulling troops out of Iraq.

I think this is the equivalent of.... I'm taking my ball and going home politics.

re: #21 Lizard by the Bay

My fantasy:

November 4th - McCain wins landslide.
November 5th - BHO in handcuffs for violation of the Logan Act
November 6th - Isreal makes new smoking holes in Iran. GWB pretends not to notice.

I'll settle for 2 out of 3, and let you pick the 2

re: #170 Typicalwhitey

I hope McCain wins for a variety of reasons but ONE of those is that the people on that website are the most hateful group I have ever seen.

They talk about "payback" and very few just have a difference of opinion. Most absolutely HATE Republicans. everyone who isnt them.
One posted a diary yesterday about how he "went off" on his 87 year old father because he didn't want to vote for Obama.

Pathetic

This is like a Paul Reiser stand-up routine:

No no, I'm not saying you should delay withdrawing troops until after the election. I'm just saying, you should delay withdrawing troops until after the election.

re: #174 DaddyO

Nasty operatives going after the Republican Party in a very dirty way

Obama continues to look for the super-secret republican strategy book.

re: #191 Sharmuta

You need a yahoo account.

But I think exposing this story to a wider audience and defeating 0bama is worth the effort.

You just sold me on it. I think I signed up eons ago and use my yahoo mail for stuff that will result in spam, haven't touched it in years.

re: #180 Typicalwhitey
Uh, geez (blushing) thanks Typicalwhitey! I'm glad to have been able to be out here today.
Regrettably the hospital radiology unit called and they DID find that I was scheduled for today, so I'm outta here now.
Hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

re: #175 joncelli

Okay, I'm going to answer my own question:

Folks, I'm not mentioning this because I'm a killjoy, despite what my wife says. (/) I mention this because, as William Katz notes,

The first tracker of the day is out. Rasmussen reports McCain with a one-point lead. He was up two yesterday, three the day before. We're seeing the same pattern here as with the Gallup tracker - McCain is beginning to lose support. It's a small loss so far, and may merely reflect the end of his convention bounce. But trouble in the economy and the relentless press assault against Sarah Palin may also have their impact.

There's still plenty of time in which McCain can lose. 49 days is an eternity in presidential races. Don't get cocky!

A LOT riding on the debates ... but a think even more riding on the dirt that sticks to the candidates. That Iraqi troop withdrawal thing seems rather dirty.

re: #175 joncelli

Wow, only one debate west of the Mississippi, and that's in a city on the Mississippi.

re: #198 Sully33

And being on the wrong side of history instead of writing it.

re: #201 Crusty

This is like a Paul Reiser stand-up routine:

No no, I'm not saying you should delay withdrawing troops until after the election. I'm just saying, you should delay withdrawing troops until after the election.

I can even hear Reisers voice in my head saying it like that!
Thanks
Dinged Ya Up

re: #183 Silhouette

There is no other way to put it.

Critics say, "Obama asked for a delay" and his spokesmen says, "Lies! He merely asked for a delay."

And millions hear that and think the critics have been proven to be liars.

Anyone with a third grade or higher education can catch the spin in that spew.

The fact that the few million kook leftists won't, is irrelevant.

To get the MSM to notice Dem scandals, "you need to have pictures of someone with a goat!"

/Rush.

re: #204 jcm

Saving America from 0bama is worth it!

re: #204 jcm

You just sold me on it. I think I signed up eons ago and use my yahoo mail for stuff that will result in spam, haven't touched it in years.

There's a joke in there.

re: #174 DaddyO

Nasty operatives going after the Republican Party in a very dirty way

Now your sure it's in here, you guys aren't pranking me are you?

re: #153 realwest

Hey my friend "WIMP FACTOR times ONE HUNDRED."
Thought I'd fix that for ya!

* * *
Good Day, RealWest! You're much more qualified at Wimp detection!

AND, Wimpy wimped out on visiting our wounded troops, while on that same World Citizen/Celebrity Tour during which he tried to EXTEND THEIR TOURS behind their backs and the backs of the American people.

WHereas, Sarah Palin the Guv MADE time to visit our wounded troops at Landstuhl, Germany in July 2007--though she didn't party with foreign leaders or try to undermine our troops.

re: #214 Ben Hur

There's a joke in there.

He was sold into it by a sharmuta- how apropos. ;)

re: #207 Ward Cleaver

Wow, only one debate west of the Mississippi, and that's in a city on the Mississippi.

Only the bitter and clingy live in the west!
/

re: #198 Sully33

Obama just can't stand the idea of Bush getting the credit for winning, and pulling troops out of Iraq.

I think this is the equivalent of.... I'm taking my ball and going home politics.

Bush gives the credit to the Generals on the ground.

Obama doesn't know what a General is, much less a General's purpose in any war.

re: #211 Ben Hur

To get the MSM to notice Dem scandals, "you need to have pictures of someone with a goat!"

/Rush.

or the old saying,, caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy ,,

although Ted Kennedy and Gerry Studds got away with it!

I googled State of Insanity and clicked on the first thing that came up.
Yikes!
Now I may have to reformat my hard drive.

re: #211 Ben Hur

To get the MSM to notice Dem scandals, "you need to have pictures of someone with a goat!"

/Rush.

An ugly goat. If it is somewhat attractive the msm will just shrug and say to each his own.

Test.

re: #217 Sharmuta

He was sold into it by a sharmuta- how apropos. ;)

ROFL!

You're all so mean to me!

re: #205 realwest

Hope all the news is good today, real....

re: #195 Silhouette

I wish my sons could have seen the guy go off on his 87 yr old father. they would have done a beat down

"respect your elders"
"I said RESPECT YOUR ELDERS"
"Who do you RESPECT?)
Your Elders

There is something seriously wrong with someone who spews tirades at octagenarians. And was he living in that octagenarians house? in the basement? up the stairs for microwave mac & cheese and an Energy Drink?

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Test.

you shoud have studied

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Test.

FAIL!

re: #205 realwest

Uh, geez (blushing) thanks Typicalwhitey! I'm glad to have been able to be out here today.
Regrettably the hospital radiology unit called and they DID find that I was scheduled for today, so I'm outta here now.
Hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Good Luck Today!
I just said a prayer for you.

re: #151 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I predict a "Dewey defeats Truman" moment at Kos

More like a Pauline Kael moment. "How could McCain win? Nobody I know voted for him!"

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Test.

Yes, there still is a G-d.

re: #219 republic

Maybe Dollar General where his district in Chicago went shopping.

Someone wise on this very site stated that it was its belief that Obama was going to do whatever was in his power to ensure that the Iraq War goes as bad as possible until Bush is out of office, then thereafter allow things to get better so Obama could take ALL the credit.

/jus sayin.

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Test.

They have internet cafes in Madagascar?

Well, now we know why Barry didn't have time to visit with any troops while he was in Iraq. He was too busy in the backroom trying to fuck them over to further his career. What a great CIC he would be.

re: #219 republic

Bush gives the credit to the Generals on the ground.

Obama doesn't know what a General is, much less a General's purpose in any war.

Sure he knows. 0bama knows three generals quite well:
General Foods
General Mills
General Motors

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Test.

response

re: #202 Racer X

Obama continues to look for the super-secret republican strategy book.

Its in the Anchorage public library under
"Books to be Banned"
Title
"Bush's Doctrine"
contains 5,389,678 pages plus the forward.

re: #185 lawhawk

McCain could further say that the hurricane once again reinforces the need to build new refineries outside of the Gulf Coast - spreading the risk of loss from any one single storm or natural disaster. More refineries means that you get to take advantage of the latest technologies and put more product into circulation. It's an infrastructure upgrade that is sorely needed.

Excellent, upding

re: #201 Crusty

This is like a Paul Reiser stand-up routine:

No no, (A) I'm not saying you should delay withdrawing troops until after the election. I'm just saying, (2) you should delay withdrawing troops until after the election.

re: #234 WrathofG-d

Someone wise on this very site stated that it was its belief that Obama was going to do whatever was in his power to ensure that the Iraq War goes as bad as possible until Bush is out of office, then thereafter allow things to get better so Obama could take ALL the credit.

/jus sayin.

If he's elected the MSM will lead a nationwide food-drive for Iraqis.

And Afganistan will be the humanitarian cause du jour.

See: Kosovo.

(oh shit)

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Test.

Another word for exam.

/Was I supposed to phrase that in the form of a question?

re: #240 Eowyn2

Its in the Anchorage public library under
"Books to be Banned"
Title
"Bush's Doctrine"
contains 5,389,678 pages plus the forward.

LMAO

re: #183 Silhouette

There is no other way to put it.

Critics say, "Obama asked for a delay" and his spokesmen says, "Lies! He merely asked for a delay."

And millions hear that and think the critics have been proven to be liars.

The brain...it hurtz.

re: #160 Guy_Philly

I have work to do in PA ... it is time to come out of the closet in my newspaper column and give McCain Palin a subtle plug (again). I just hope it slips past the editors.

* * *
Bless you & thank you for your courage & conviction!

In America, you shouldn't have to sneak around like the Worldly yet Wimpy One, behind our backs, saying one thing in Scranton and another in San Fran, and yet another in Baghdad and another in Berlin.

I was browsing a bookstore on Sunday and overheard 2 moonbats talking,

MB1: "That f*ckin' Palin is just Bush in drag"
MB2: "Yeah, I can't f*ckin' wait till she uses the "N" word. I just know she wants too."

Me, butting in: "You mean like when Rev. Wright and Jesse Jackson used the N word?"

re: #175 joncelli

Okay, I'm going to answer my own question:

Folks, I'm not mentioning this because I'm a killjoy, despite what my wife says. (/) I mention this because, as William Katz notes,

The first tracker of the day is out. Rasmussen reports McCain with a one-point lead. He was up two yesterday, three the day before. We're seeing the same pattern here as with the Gallup tracker - McCain is beginning to lose support. It's a small loss so far, and may merely reflect the end of his convention bounce. But trouble in the economy and the relentless press assault against Sarah Palin may also have their impact.

There's still plenty of time in which McCain can lose. 49 days is an eternity in presidential races. Don't get cocky!

As long as McCain keeps pointing out the plain, confirmed facts, that this current economic worry and financial crisis has been caused by Democrats who's regulations insured this would happen, and now want to try and regulate things even more.

The Democrats are responsable for this mess, and the facts are plain to see.

The Democrats demanded/legislated that lenders would give loans to people not even close to qualified for even a $100.00 loan.

McCain simply needs to keep reminding people that this is exactly what has always happened when Democrats try to govern.

Failed Democrat policies.

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Test.

Hey - where are ya?

re: #228 jcm
Pass! It took me a little while to figure out an internet connection but it seems to be working.

OT:
Chairman of the JCS in Pakistan to talk with the Pakistanis over their statements relating to the US and special ops inside Pakistan.

I believe that the JCS is going to be making things crystal clear for the Pakistanis - that they can say whatever they need to say for Pakistani public consumption, but if they will not go after the Islamists/al Qaeda/Taliban that continue streaming into Afghanistan, the US will. Oh, and that all the aid that the US was promising to give to Pakistan, well, it might go somewhere else instead if you don't play along - India has needs too....

OT

In at 6:00am, out at 11:00am, hernia gone, got a bottle of happy pills, missed Obama's speach in Golden at the School of Mines this morning, walked around Walgreens waiting for happy pills, going to lay down in a bit. Ain't modern medicine amazing (I mean being able to miss the speach).

Walter in Golden, Co.

re: #201 Crusty

This is like a Paul Reiser stand-up routine:

No no, I'm not saying you should delay withdrawing troops until after the election. I'm just saying, you should delay withdrawing troops until after the election.

"It's duck season!"
"It' rabbit season!"
"Duck season!"
"Rabbit season!"
"Duck season!"
"Rabbit season!"
....
"It's rabbit Season!"
"It's duck season! Fire! ...... I hate that rabbit."

OT

Palin Hit Piece
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Test? WTF. I thought you were outing yourself in Africa...

re: #244 Sharmuta

Another word for exam.

/Was I supposed to phrase that in the form of a question?

either that ,,, or buy a vowel ,,,or trade the toaster for whats behind door #1,,,, or pick bachelor #1, #2 or #3

wha ,,,,,, game shows ? you asking if I've watched too many game shows? why would you ask me that ?

OT (but pretty big deal if you asked me)

"Under the Radar": African "Militants" have declared "war" on Shell, Chevron, and other Oil Companies.

re: #231 Lizard by the Bay

More like a Pauline Kael moment. "How could McCain win? Nobody I know voted for him!"

That is exactly the kind of self-centered worldview that gives us those that are certain that Bush was selected, that Diebold machines cheated, etc.

re: #248 Kenneth

I was browsing a bookstore on Sunday and overheard 2 moonbats talking,

MB1: "That f*ckin' Palin is just Bush in drag"
MB2: "Yeah, I can't f*ckin' wait till she uses the "N" word. I just know she wants too."

Me, butting in: "You mean like when Rev. Wright and Jesse Jackson used the N word?"

They still cleaning up that aisle?

re: #251 Killgore Trout

Pass! It took me a little while to figure out an internet connection but it seems to be working.

You and McCain ... still trying to figure out how to connect to the Internet?

re: #160 Guy_Philly

I have work to do in PA ... it is time to come out of the closet in my newspaper column and give McCain Palin a subtle plug (again). I just hope it slips past the editors.

Guy, I had no idea you were our man on the inside! I'm amazed you haven't been caught and sent to reducation camp professional development training yet.