I would rather have a frog running my city than this moron.

ribbit

THird!

New development in the Iraq Withdrawal-Gate. Apparently, there were several witnesses in the room who can confirm Obama urged the Iraqis not to set a withdrawal time line:

[Link: www.spectator.org...]

Can't I just eat my tadpole...

I just want to eat my tadpole.

Breca coax coax coax

More details:

The three problems, according to campaign sources: The report was true, there were at least three other people in the room with Obama and Zebari to confirm the conversation, and there was concern that there were enough aggressive reporters based in Baghdad with the sources to confirm the conversation that to deny the comments would create a bigger problem.

Then she went insane.

Ahhh, fond memories of chasing bullfrogs on the shores of ponds and lakes.

re: #4 Balian1193

New development in the Iraq Withdrawal-Gate. Apparently, there were several witnesses in the room who can confirm Obama urged the Iraqis not to set a withdrawal time line:

[Link: www.spectator.org...]

A treasure trove in that link.

Thanks!

Good ol' Emily Dickinson. I think every girl goes through a Dickinson phase ... sometime after Alcott.

TRIVIA FOR THE NIGHT
The USA was the site of a major military conflict whose opening battle and final surrender occurred on the property of the same person.

What was the conflict?
Who is the property owner?

re: #11 hermeneutics

Good ol' Emily Dickinson. I think every girl goes through a Dickinson phase ... sometime after Alcott.

I'm not a girl but I like her.

re: #12 rawmuse

TRIVIA FOR THE NIGHT
The USA was the site of a major military conflict whose opening battle and final surrender occurred on the property of the same person.

What was the conflict?
Who is the property owner?

I give up. Who?

re: #9 BlueCanuck

Ahhh, fond memories of chasing bullfrogs on the shores of ponds and lakes.

LOL My dad and his buddy used to go out gigging. After one such trip they were about half way home and realized they had a live bullfrog sitting on the truck seat between the two of them. They thought it was so darn cool Dad's friend dug a pond for the frog in his back yard so he could have it as a pet.

re: #12 rawmuse

TRIVIA FOR THE NIGHT
The USA was the site of a major military conflict whose opening battle and final surrender occurred on the property of the same person.

What was the conflict?
Who is the property owner?

Okay, then, a hint? Which war?

re: #12 rawmuse

TRIVIA FOR THE NIGHT
The USA was the site of a major military conflict whose opening battle and final surrender occurred on the property of the same person.

What was the conflict?
Who is the property owner?

Civil War.
Can't remember the name.

It's my understanding Obama is going to do his corrupt politician impersonation tomorrow.

/try to guess which is the real Obama

/hint: watch his ears

re: #16 hermeneutics

Okay, then, a hint? Which war?

Last night I gave too many hints. I promised tonight's would be harder. I don't want people to just Google it.

Gigging, not to be confused with jigging, is an American South and Midwest practice of hunting flounder or frogs with a gig, or three pronged spear. The gig is a long (typically 8 to 14 foot) pole which has been tipped with a spear, usually with three barbed tines like a trident. Four-tined spears are also used.

wiki

re: #12 rawmuse

TRIVIA FOR THE NIGHT
The USA was the site of a major military conflict whose opening battle and final surrender occurred on the property of the same person.

What was the conflict?
Who is the property owner?

Civil War gentleman lived by Bull Run outside DC and then moved to Appomatox. Grant and Lee met at his house. Forget his name and won't cheat to look up.

re: #4 Balian1193

Hmmmmmmmmm.........

Has this been posted yet? Alaska AG says NO to Subpoenas

[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

ALmost read it as "admiring bLog" Perils of modern times.

Any other lizards planning to go to the rally at the UN on Monday. Palin will be speaking I hear and it's always fun to see the anti-Iran signs and the psychotic lib counter protests

Frog gigging is often done with a four-tined spear. Four-tined spears are quite good for frog gigging, as they are normally heavier and less likely to break, and also wider, giving the frog hunter more room for error when thrusting the spear-tipped gig through the frog.
Flashlights are usually used to locate the frogs by the reflection of light from their eyes. This technique seems to stun or daze the frogs, and it definitely makes it less likely for the frog to see an approaching hunter, or the incoming gig itself. A fishing license is required in some jurisdictions.[1] and frog gigging regulations are usually found in each state's hunting and fishing regulations.
Although capturing frogs with a net or clasp pole may be referred to as frog gigging by some, this is incorrect, as a gig is not being used. Handling frogs with the objective of releasing them may harm the creature because chemicals can easily be absorbed through their skin.
Frog legs are often cooked deep fried or sautéed.[2] The hind legs can contain as much meat as the legs of a medium-sized chicken. Traditionally they are breaded with a mixture of egg and bread or cracker crumbs. Frog legs, often imported from the Orient, are available at many restaurants or stores, particularly in the Southern United States.
The country music duo Big & Rich mentioned frog gigging in their song "Save a Horse (Ride a Cowboy)". The band Alabama sang about it in Red River.
One of the most popular Texas A&M yells is "Gig 'em, Aggies!" and was created in preparation for a football game against the TCU Horned Frogs.

I learned something NEW tonight!

re: #20 hermeneutics

My Dad was into those frog legs. He kept trying to convince us kids they tasted just like chicken.

re: #4 Balian1193

New development in the Iraq Withdrawal-Gate. Apparently, there were several witnesses in the room who can confirm Obama urged the Iraqis not to set a withdrawal time line:

[Link: www.spectator.org...]

Investors Business Daily did an Op/Ed piece on it Tuesday

re: #24 SpartanWoman

ALmost read it as "admiring bLog" Perils of modern times.

That might very well be why Charles chose that quote for the overnight thread.

After all, there isn't much difference between them.

re: #21 lifeofthemind

I'll give the answer in a couple more minutes.

re: #26 Pvt Bin Jammin

My Dad was into those frog legs. He kept trying to convince us kids they tasted just like chicken.

Are/were you Southern?

Obama and the MSM caught lying again. What a surprise. Obama, the American Chavez.

re: #25 hermeneutics

Ya'll ever run em with dogs?

re: #12 rawmuse

TRIVIA FOR THE NIGHT
The USA was the site of a major military conflict whose opening battle and final surrender occurred on the property of the same person.

What was the conflict?
Who is the property owner?

Appomattox
Wilmer McLean

re: #26 Pvt Bin Jammin

My Dad was into those frog legs. He kept trying to convince us kids they tasted just like chicken.

They are the devil to cook. Sputter and pop.

re: #32 saltmarsh

Ya'll ever run em with dogs?

?

re: #35 hermeneutics

frogs.

re: #30 hermeneutics

Mom's family was from the south. Dad was second generation from Slovenia and born and raised in Colorado. His hunting/fishing buddies probably got him into it. After he saw Bambi he stopped dear hunting, LOL, but he was really into duck hunting, fishing and gigging.

re: #31 pat

Obama and the MSM caught lying again. What a surprise. Obama, the American Chavez.

I saw Obama blaming the Bush Administration for the financial meltdown at a speech today and thats the LAST thing Americans want to hear right now.

Panic.City.In.Democratville.

re: #14 hermeneutics
McLean was the property owner

What McCain or Bush do to bring the Obama Iraqi withdrawal thing out in front? We know the media will not go willingly.

THIS IS MAJOR. I think McCain should do everything in his powers to expose Obama on this issue. Obama is a snake.

The TRIVIA answers are

The Civil War (or as my grandma called it "The Wah of Nawthen Agresshun")
and the property owner is

Wilmer McLean
who had the unfortunate circumstance to have been darn near ruined twice, once at the beginning, when his farm was a battleground, and at the conclusion, when everything that wasn't bolted down was stolen by Union Army souvenir theives. George Custer even took his parlor table where the documents were signed.

But, as I read upthread, no one got BOTH answers.

re: #34 pat

LOL I can still remember my mom screaming when one of them would practically jump out of the skillet.

re: #12 rawmuse

TRIVIA FOR THE NIGHT
The USA was the site of a major military conflict whose opening battle and final surrender occurred on the property of the same person.

What was the conflict?
Who is the property owner?

Civil War
Wilbur McClain

Hope I spelled his name right.

re: #30 hermeneutics

I'm reading something on flounder "gigging" now. Sounds interesting. Here's his text ...

When I gig from a boat, I use lighting that may be foreign to many of you. I have modified a metal car top carrier bar and fitted it with four sealed beam headlamps, the same kind we use on an automobile. They are mounted so they point straight up if the bar were mounted across the roof of an auto. The connections have all been waterproofed, and the wiring to the lamps is of six gauge, insulated copper.

I take the headlamp arraignment and drop it over the bow with a line attached to each side. I then draw the bar so that it is about one quarter of the way back from the bow and strapped across the bottom of the boat. If you picture this properly, you know that the headlamps are now pointed at the sea bottom. Once securely strapped in place, I connect the wiring to one of the three auto batteries in the boat.

Bingo! The bottom directly under the boat is lit up like a ballpark. The angle of the light to the front of the boat allows any eyes that are protruding from the bottom to be seen as I stand on the bow of the boat.

Now, all it takes is someone helping you pole the boat, or run an electric trolling motor!

[Link: saltfishing.about.com...]

re: #42 rawmuse

I supposedly a historian. I just failed your quiz.

re: #41 Balian1193

What McCain or Bush do to bring the Obama Iraqi withdrawal thing out in front? We know the media will not go willingly.

THIS IS MAJOR. I think McCain should do everything in his powers to expose Obama on this issue. Obama is a snake.

Email this to Hannity, O'Reilly, ABCnews, Brit Hume etc.

Sorry to be OT but this might be useful.
I just finished installing Vista SP1. It took about an hour for the installation process, then one goes to a black screen with drifting icons. This I left going for 29 hours, waiting for something to happen. Nothing having happened, I thought of "press any key." I pressed the space key. It was done. When it might have been done earlier, I have no way of knowing.

I have a serious question: Who fact checks factcheck.org? I looked at the top 2 people who run the site. The top dog worked for the AP, and the 2nd in command worked for Time magazine. I smell a rat.

re: #38 Maximu§

I saw Obama blaming the Bush Administration for the financial meltdown at a speech today and thats the LAST thing Americans want to hear right now.

McCain was co-sponsor on a bill in 2005 that sought to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - the Dems pooh-poohed it.

He very prophetically said that if we don't deal with FM/FM, then we will have massive problems down the road.

Let Obama go there - he has touted as his own an economic stimulus bill that he had a minor role in back in January, but never showed up to vote for it! Hillary had more to do with the crafting of the bill than Obama did. If he keeps claiming Hillary's work as his own, then even more of her supporters will dessert him for McCain than already have.

And there are many of them who are all the way McCain/Palin voters now.

Haven't heard too much about Ayers lately...has he officially been sub-bussified?

re: #46 hermeneutics

I supposedly a historian. I just failed your quiz.

Tomorrow, the Battle of Agincourt! Time to cram.

Italy's right to curb Islam with mosque law

ROME (Reuters) - Italy's Northern League, allies of centre-right Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, want to limit the growth of Islam in the centre of world Catholicism by blocking the construction of mosques through strict new regulations

Right on Italy.

re: #12 rawmuse
It was the US Civil War - started on a Farmers field in Manassas (BullRun) Va and ended at the farm that same farmer moved to after Bull Run, in Appamatox Courthouse, Va (Appamatox Courthouse is the name of a town, not a building). And I think the Farmer's name was McCain!

re: #45 hermeneutics

Haven't looked it up yet, but I think it's illegal to go for catfish with the lights.

LOL I can't believe I brought this up. Maybe it's because my sister-in-law was here last night talking about the frog's legs she had on her recent cruise.

re: #42 rawmuse

The TRIVIA answers are

The Civil War (or as my grandma called it "The Wah of Nawthen Agresshun")
and the property owner is

Wilmer McLean
who had the unfortunate circumstance to have been darn near ruined twice, once at the beginning, when his farm was a battleground, and at the conclusion, when everything that wasn't bolted down was stolen by Union Army souvenir theives. George Custer even took his parlor table where the documents were signed.

But, as I read upthread, no one got BOTH answers.

Technicality. How could anyone not know it was the Civil War when the location was Appomattox?

re: #52 rawmuse

Tomorrow, the Battle of Agincourt! Time to cram.

I don't believe you. :)

/studying anyway.

re: #51 Fenway_Nation

Haven't heard too much about Ayers lately...has he officially been sub-bussified?

Clinging bitterly to the axle right about now and not giving up his spot for anybody!

That was a good trivia question. I can see how very few would get it right. The only reason I got it was because I must have seen Ken Burns The Civil War like a bajillion times. I can practically recite the Sullivan Ballou letter from memory.

re: #52 rawmuse

Tomorrow, the Battle of Agincourt! Time to cram.

And I thought you were a musician! I swear the people who run the local historical societies and read military history are far better trained than those of us who imbibed the factless critical studies. Sigh.

re: #42 rawmuse
Crap, I answered before I saw your post. Yeah, Mclean, not McCain - thought my memory on that was tainted by current political events!

re: #60 hermeneutics

I just do music to make money. First it was the chicks. Later, the money.

Ahhhhh...Emily! Very nice, Charles, thanks so much!

re: #52 rawmuse
WHOA. Hold on there - let's not finish off the Civil War Trivia just yet!
What is the name of the town and the state in the north which saw the Confederates farthest or most northernward attack?!

re: #64 realwest

I am really lame on this but was it in Pennsylvania?

re: #64 realwest

I think that would be Gettysburg, PA.

re: #6 lifeofthemind

Breca coax coax coax

Sooooo...

...you know the croaking chorus from The Frogs of Aristophanes...

...but can you name the femme-fatale assassin of Holofernes?

re: #56 really grumpy big dog Johnson LOL! Here in N.C. we still refer to the Civil War as the recent unpleasantness!

judith

Here is my favorite poem BY Emily Dickinson

Because I could not stop for Death,
He kindly stopped for me;
The carriage held but just ourselves
And Immortality.

We slowly drove, he knew no haste,
And I had put away
My labour, and my leisure too,
For his civility.

We passed the school where children played,
Their lessons scarcely done;
We passed the fields of gazing grain,
We passed the setting sun.

We paused before a house that seemed
A swelling of the ground;
The roof was scarcely visible,
The cornice but a mound.

Since then 'tis centuries; but each
Feels shorter than the day
I first surmised the horses' heads
Were toward eternity.

re: #50 Intrepid

McCain was co-sponsor on a bill in 2005 that sought to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - the Dems pooh-poohed it.

He very prophetically said that if we don't deal with FM/FM, then we will have massive problems down the road.

Let Obama go there - he has touted as his own an economic stimulus bill that he had a minor role in back in January, but never showed up to vote for it! Hillary had more to do with the crafting of the bill than Obama did. If he keeps claiming Hillary's work as his own, then even more of her supporters will dessert him for McCain than already have.

And there are many of them who are all the way McCain/Palin voters now.

Rich Democrats ate a $28,000 a plate meal in Beverly Hills today saying "we're for the little people"....what a joke.

re: #71 Maximu§

Rich Democrats ate a $28,000 a plate meal in Beverly Hills today saying "we're for the little people"....what a joke.

The little people got to clear the table.

re: #64 realwest
gettysburg pennsylvania

re: #65 Pvt Bin Jammin
Nopere: #66 rawmuseNope.
Do ya give up (and I hope so cause I gotta go to bed now!).

re: #58 Intrepid

I must've missed it. All I heard last month was a tepid denial accusing the GOP of 'sliming' Obama for his association with Ayers (which was never really refuted in the rebuttal) before the whole issue got overshadowed by the GOP convention, Hurricane Gustav and the selection of Sarah Palin.

This needs to be revisited.

re: #64 realwest

WHOA. Hold on there - let's not finish off the Civil War Trivia just yet!
What is the name of the town and the state in the north which saw the Confederates farthest or most northernward attack?!

Wasn't it Carlisle, just north of Gettysburg?

re: #76 rp1138 Nope, it wasn't!

re: #70 rawmuse

OMG I just put that in my favorites even though it might already be there. That is VERY good.

Russia halts trading after 17% share price fall

By Catherine Belton and Charles Clover in Moscow and Rachel Morarjee in London

September 16 2008

Russian shares suffered their steepest one-day fall in more than a decade on Tuesday, losing up to 20 per cent, as a sharp slide in oil prices and difficult money market conditions triggered a rush to sell.

The heads of the Russian central bank, the finance ministry and the financial market regulator met on Tuesday night for an emergency discussion on ways to halt the crisis.

Capitalism, at its best........
.

re: #15 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL My dad and his buddy used to go out gigging. After one such trip they were about half way home and realized they had a live bullfrog sitting on the truck seat between the two of them. They thought it was so darn cool Dad's friend dug a pond for the frog in his back yard so he could have it as a pet.

Hubby and I moved into a new neighborhood almost 3 years ago. We have a lot of bullfrogs, big mothers! We used to think that they were lost when they showed up on our backyard and we captured them and took them down to our ponds for release. A neighbor (and very knowledgeable environmentalist) told us that they were grass frogs and needed to be in dry areas! Sorry, frogs! We know better now. (And you are really cool).

From the Spectator article...

Biden is notorious in the Senate for his long-winded questions and his inability to limit his comments to questions during interviews and floor debate, and Republicans and the McCain campaign have been banking that Biden's ego and frustration over the lack of attention focused on him will drive him to overcompensate during the debate.

"But we're not going to let that happen," says the Obama adviser. "When Joe wants to get in a zone, he can get in the zone and stay there. He really wants to be in the zone for this debate and he is working hard. I saw him work hard to prep on the Roberts and Alito confirmation hearings. He's working twice as hard on this, because the stakes and the rewards are so much higher."

The dems are gonna lose that debate. Know why?

Because they are prisoners of their own tunnel vision, and can't see the forest for the trees.

re: #64 realwest

St. Albins, VT.

re: #70 rawmuse

You made me cry.

re: #77 realwest

Nope, it wasn't!

I thought Lee took a couple of towns to the north of Gettysburg before the battle, and that was why the South came in from the north and the North from the south

re: #82 Fenway_Nation
BINGO! We have a WINNAH here folks!
The nortern most raid commited by Confederate Forces during the Civil War was in St. Albans, Vermont!
Congratulations, Fenway_Nation, here's you're gold star!

re: #72 SpartanWoman

The little people got to clear the table.

But none understood what the to-do was about, being recent "immigrants" and all...

re: #81 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Biden will try to intimidate Palin. He will succeed. He's good at that. I hope she's prepared. He'll pull a Bentson on her, mark my words.

re: #83 hermeneutics

You made me cry.

Yeah, I puddle up on that one too. Ain't it great?
That one and "Annabelle Lee" by Poe

re: #85 realwest

BINGO! We have a WINNAH here folks!
The nortern most raid commited by Confederate Forces during the Civil War was in St. Albans, Vermont!
Congratulations, Fenway_Nation, here's you're gold star!

D'oh! Forgot about that one.

re: #87 merrytexas

Biden will try to intimidate Palin. He will succeed. He's good at that. I hope she's prepared. He'll pull a Bentson on her, mark my words.

I don't know.
She has been on fire lately at her stops.

Biden is a blowhard and I don't believe that type of guy can intimidate Palin.

re: #72 SpartanWoman

The little people got to clear the table.

If they were lucky they ate a lobster-stuffed-crab-cake tossed aside by one of the Elites.

You're something of a "someone", yourself, Charles. Ever wish you could stop shouting your name at us the livelong June (and July...and August, and Fall, Winter, Spring...) to go on a bike trip or something?

Oh, and to those who were asking me for why I'm here two threads down...demographically I should be ranting on Digg or DailyKos or some other site about unfairness or college costs or something, but I can't shout much of anything with a cough. Those guys never did click with me anyway.

Karl Rove spoke at Claremont McKenna last night. I couldn't go due to a Computer Science class, but I understand quite the counter-protest showed up.

re: #80 Russkilitlover

You are very cool, too, and that is why you're going to do great on the interview. I meant to respond on the last thread and got a few e-mails.

"Break a leg" as they say in show business.

I never knew about the grass frogs either. Would have done the same thing you did.

re: #88 rawmuse
Uh, how's about my #85, eh?!

re: #87 merrytexas

She might get to him first, after all it's the Barack campaign that is linking itself to JFK and Jesus....Palin has to steer clear of comparing herself to TR and we should be OK

re: #72 SpartanWoman

The little people got to clear the table.

I thought that was a job most Americans wouldn't do....

re: #85 realwest

Dang, I gots to read up on that one. It was more like a raid, then?

re: #96 Fenway_Nation

I thought that was a job most Americans wouldn't do....

Go back and read post 86

re: #81 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Did you hear Biden during those confirmations? If that was him trying to be in a zone and not be a giant egomaniac, than him in real life must never, ever, ever shut up.

re: #79 Tamron

Russia halts trading after 17% share price fall

Capitalism, at its best........
.

Burn Russia Burn....dirty rotton MFer's. I hope their economy folds like a Chinese made lawnchair.

re: #97 rawmuse

Yea....my understanding is they swooped in from Canada, which is only about 10 miles north of St. Albins.

re: #100 Maximu§

One thing's for sure. Pooty's pissed oil's back down under $100.

re: #100 Maximu§

Burn Russia Burn....dirty rotton MFer's. I hope their economy folds like a Chinese made lawnchair.

Maybe they will do a govt bail out...no...wait...the banks ARE govt entities already!

re: #97 rawmuse
Yep,the St. Albans Raid was the northernmost land action of the American Civil War, taking place in St. Albans, Vermont on October 19, 1864."
Link is [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Well all y'all it's really late here and I have to try to get some sleep now.
I do hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to speak to you all down the road!

Goodnight, all!

re: #102 Macker

I thought the point of that whole incursion into Georgia- besides the Russian bear demonstrating to the world that it can crush a mountainous nation 1/25th its size- was to drive the price of oil up with concerns about suppliers and pipelines.

re: #104 realwest

Those mad Canucks!

re: #95 SpartanWoman

She might get to him first, after all it's the Barack campaign that is linking itself to JFK and Jesus....Palin has to steer clear of comparing herself to TR and we should be OK

Do you think she's going to be "nice" or will she hit below the belt?

re: #87 merrytexas

Biden will try to intimidate Palin. He will succeed. He's good at that. I hope she's prepared. He'll pull a Bentson on her, mark my words.

Not a chance. He will attempt to bully Palin, and it will be a disaster.

re: #85 realwest

Dang! Vermont? I was going to say Boston a couple of minutes ago for a laugh. I am not googling anything, just trying to remember things I read 45 years ago.

re: #108 merrytexas

Do you think she's going to be "nice" or will she hit below the belt?

I hope she will nicely hit below the belt, say it with a smile, Sarah!

re: #92 davinvalkri

Karl Rove spoke at Claremont McKenna last night. I couldn't go due to a Computer Science class, but I understand quite the counter-protest showed up.

Who gives a Rats-Ass about your America-Hating College Newbie?

re: #109 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Hope you're right. I don't trust Biden (or Obama) one bit.

re: #96 Fenway_Nation

I thought that was a job most Americans wouldn't do....

After the meal, don'cha know the table scraps were raffled off for $500 a plate. No waste there!

I need to come up with some great (and rude is Ok, just not profane) anti-Iran posters for Monday's rally at Turtle Bay. I welcome suggestions

re: #115 SpartanWoman

I need to come up with some great (and rude is Ok, just not profane) anti-Iran posters for Monday's rally at Turtle Bay. I welcome suggestions

"I-RAN from an Islamic theocracy
and all I got was this rope around my neck"

re: #105 realwest

Well all y'all it's really late here and I have to try to get some sleep now.
I do hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to speak to you all down the road!

Goodnight, all!

night rw

re: #99 cliffster

Did you hear Biden during those confirmations? If that was him trying to be in a zone and not be a giant egomaniac, than him in real life must never, ever, ever shut up.

Biden's a legend in his own mind. Palin wil turn that back on him. Just wait and see.

re: #87 merrytexas

Biden will try to intimidate Palin. He will succeed. He's good at that. I hope she's prepared. He'll pull a Bentson on her, mark my words.

she will eat him alive....... n00b.

re: #116 victor_yugo

"I-RAN from an Islamic theocracy
and all I got was this rope around my neck"

good one.

re: #114 Tamron

That $500 could be used to help offset the carbon footprint of that dinner.

re: #103 SpartanWoman

Maybe they will do a govt bail out...no...wait...the banks ARE govt entities already!

Maybe Paulson will arrange for us to bail them out, too?
.

re: #119 redc1c4

she will eat him alive....... n00b.

Red, you old Warhorse!

re: #105 realwest

Good night, Realwest, take care.

kos diary sightings:

This is the story that brings Palin down...

sigh...again

The Shadow of Jim Crow Hovers Over Gallup Polls

Ummm...k...

Joe Biden Energizes Media Pa (Tuesday) with Pics

HAHAHA...oh that wasn't a joke?

Sean Penn RIPS McCain a new one (Updated with Poll)

re: #92 davinvalkri

another FNG...... 2nd poast and already looking for trouble.

re: #27 Intrepid

Investors Business Daily did an Op/Ed piece on it Tuesday

Well, then the MSM will be all over it tomorrow.

/

Hey, so who is running for President on the GOP ticket, anyways? It's Sarah Palin, right? Could have sworn it was that war hero, McCain guy, but nobody's talking about that..

re: #128 cliffster

Hey, so who is running for President on the GOP ticket, anyways? It's Sarah Palin, right? Could have sworn it was that war hero, McCain guy, but nobody's talking about that..

I thought it was President Bush running for his third term the way liberals have been attacking him

re: #108 merrytexas

Do you think she's going to be "nice" or will she hit below the belt?

of course she'll be nice: it's the Donkeys that go below the belt.

re: #123 Maximu§

Red, you old Warhorse!

this college shit sucks..... stupid leftest profs, bullshit books. i wish i'd never promised HRH that i'd finish my degree

re: #129 Neo Con since 9-11

Ha! Hear the drumbeat. What's wrong with this country? Bush, therefore McCain. Actually, most people don't remember the climate back in 2004. But if Bush were running again this year, I woudln't bet against him.

re: #118 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Biden's a legend in his own mind. Palin wil turn that back on him. Just wait and see.

But didn't you know, BIDEN HAS A HIGHER IQ THAN EVERYONE.

It's gotta be true. He said so himself!

ROFL.
.

re: #128 cliffster

Hey, so who is running for President on the GOP ticket, anyways? It's Sarah Palin, right? Could have sworn it was that war hero, McCain guy, but nobody's talking about that..

I"ve talked about him plenty tonight. Who are you?

In the upcoming debate with Governor Palin, Biden will demonstrate himself to be the gaff prone, arrogant asshole he's always been.

He's worth +3 McCain points all by himself as an Obama running mate.

(unless his aneurysm suddenly stars acting up again and he aborts himseld conveniently from the ticket)

re: #126 redc1c4

Hey there, Red. I missed that post somehow. LOL

re: #109 really grumpy big dog Johnson

She will do what all good moms do, give him the "look" and dare him to respond.

re: #125 Typicalwhitey

kos diary sightings:

This is the story that brings Palin down...

That would be about the 14th story posted over there that finished her off. DKos is a pathetic echo chamber of intolerance, hatred, and vituperation.

Especially vituperation.

admiring blog?

re: #136 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hey there, Red. I missed that post somehow. LOL

it's all that time spent on usenet..... spotting trolls is almost 2nd nature

"Being in politics is like being a football coach.
You have to be smart enough to understand the game,
and dumb enough to think it's important."
-- Eugene McCarthy
(1916- ) US Congressman (D-Minnesota) & US Senator (D-Minnesota)
[Link: quotes.liberty-tree.ca...]

"The difference between a politician and a pickpocket
is that the pickpocket doesn't get indignant
when you tell him to keep his hands to himself."
-- Joseph Sobran
(1946- ) Columnist
[Link: quotes.liberty-tree.ca...]

"Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession.
I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
-- Ronald Reagan
(1911-2004) 40th US President
[Link: quotes.liberty-tree.ca...]

I think that Biden is already intimidated, and he should be. After all, he's the one with a long and non-illustrious career in Washington, and NOBODY is talking about him.

=stirin it up=

WAKE UP AMERICA! WAKE UP AMERICA! (whilst jumping around with flailing arms)

Does anyone remember this? Pres Bush already proposed deeper regulations of Freddie and Fannie 5 years ago! (*tap tap* Is this thing on?)

"NY TIMES. Published: Sep 2003. The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.

Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.

The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.

[reading on...]
"Freddie Mac, whose accounting is under investigation by the Securities and Exchange Commission and a United States attorney in Virginia, issued a statement calling the administration plan a ''responsible proposal.''

[and finally...]
"Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing."

=There you have it. The Dems in congress opposed more stringent regulation because it would prevent those who can't afford a house... FROM GETTING A HOUSE!

[Link: query.nytimes.com...]

re: #138 Opilio

That would be about the 14th story posted over there that finished her off. DKos is a pathetic echo chamber of intolerance, hatred, and vituperation.

Especially vituperation.

echo chamber is right.

The "kos" poll is:

Obama 48%
McCain 44%

Which is the only national poll that has obambi leading by .....any

re: #137 Viking6

She will do what all good moms do, give him the "look" and dare him to respond.

One could only hope that she'd promise to KICK HIS ASS...
.

re: #134 really grumpy big dog Johnson

I"ve talked about him plenty tonight. Who are you?

Who am I? Who are you?

re: #145 Tamron

Last time I got the "look" I couldn't sit down for a week.

re: #140 redc1c4

I can see it, just scrolling too fast, LOL. I'm learning.

re: #134 really grumpy big dog Johnson

I"ve talked about him plenty tonight. Who are you?

Apparently he is a big red dog.

re: #144 Typicalwhitey

Aren't you being a wee bit generous in referring to them as 'national'?

Also, do you have to have an account in Kozistan to vote in that poll?

Unless you are in the mood.....Don't even look at W.H Auden's "Funeral Blues."
...."The stars are now wanted now, put out every one. Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun. Pour away the ocean and sweep up the wood. For nothing now can come to any good."

*SIGH* I LOVE good poetry! I love the rhythm and cadence. Can't beat Anna Akhmatova or Boris Pasternak.

"G'night all!

re: #143 StirUpTheBlog

=stirin it up=

WAKE UP AMERICA! WAKE UP AMERICA! (whilst jumping around with flailing arms)

Does anyone remember this? Pres Bush already proposed deeper regulations of Freddie and Fannie 5 years ago! (*tap tap* Is this thing on?)

"NY TIMES. Published: Sep 2003. The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.

Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.

The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.

[reading on...]
"Freddie Mac, whose accounting is under investigation by the Securities and Exchange Commission and a United States attorney in Virginia, issued a statement calling the administration plan a ''responsible proposal.''

[and finally...]
"Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing."

=There you have it. The Dems in congress opposed more stringent regulation because it would prevent those who can't afford a house... FROM GETTING A HOUSE!

[Link: query.nytimes.com...]

The dems have always taken the position of being the party of the poor, but instead they are the party of the barefoot and pregnant, meaning they want them to stay that way.

re: #143 StirUpTheBlog

n00b alert

re: #146 cliffster

Who am I? Who are you?

I would say he's someone with about 4500 posts more LGF street cred than you.

re: #131 redc1c4

this college shit sucks..... stupid leftest profs, bullshit books. i wish i'd never promised HRH that i'd finish my degree

You could approach it as an opportunity to cause some trouble.

I have done that. It knocked a few points off my GPA but it kept me awake too.

Ask the leftist prof questions.

Be sincere and innocent.

Don't let them spout bull with out being able to support it. Be polite, civil and sincere. Ask questions.

Don't give them enough to guess your ideology.

Just ask questions.

It can be fun.

re: #149 Typicalwhitey

Apparently he is a big red dog.

Clifford?

re: #137 Viking6

She will do what all good moms do, give him the "look" and dare him to respond.

..make sure her glasses are down on her nose when she looks at him, like Gibson did to her. I'd love to see Biden condescended to, but I think it'd be over his head

re: #146 cliffster

Who am I? Who are you?

See what happens when posts aren't taken as sarcastic or cynical or whatever?

Everything gets lost in the translation.

re: #146 cliffster

Who am I? Who are you?

Oh-oh!

(Duck and run! Quick!)

Too late.

Sic 'em, Grumpy.
.

re: #157 merrytexas
That was the exact picture I had in mind when I posted. It would be over his ability to grasp the gesture. After all he has the highest IQ in the room.

re: #155 Syrah

You could approach it as an opportunity to cause some trouble.

I have done that. It knocked a few points off my GPA but it kept me awake too.

Ask the leftist prof questions.

Be sincere and innocent.

Don't let them spout bull with out being able to support it. Be polite, civil and sincere. Ask questions.

Don't give them enough to guess your ideology.

Just ask questions.

It can be fun.

i'm doing it online, so i just sit here and grumble in my beer. need to get cracking on my assignments though

re: #160 Viking6

That was the exact picture I had in mind when I posted. It would be over his ability to grasp the gesture. After all he has the highest IQ in the room.

my dog is smarter than Biden.....

(and he's dead. %-)

re: #151 Russkilitlover

'nite. Best of luck. I LOVE good poetry.

re: #159 Tamron

heh heh, been busy with the charcol and BBQ. Looks like we get fresh meat tonight lizards.

/Wow two of them even.

re: #154 Badge of Kaffir Pride

I would say he's someone with about 4500 posts more LGF street cred than you.

And you've got nothing. I was making the point that nobody is talking about the guy that's actually running for president.

re: #131 redc1c4

this college shit sucks..... stupid leftest profs, bullshit books. i wish i'd never promised HRH that i'd finish my degree

I got me an Engineering Degree back in the day. Funny, not a lot of political theory found its way into Diff Eq. or Statics lectures.

"Troopergate" investigator is being sued.

I like it.

re: #165 cliffster

And that's a bad thing? The leftocraps are too busy focusing on the diversion and are going to totally miss the main attack. Of course come November 5th they are going to say that the election was stolen from them once again.

re: #131 redc1c4

this college shit sucks..... stupid leftest profs, bullshit books. i wish i'd never promised HRH that i'd finish my degree

Bite your lip, study hard, get the damn sheepskin. Eye on the prize and all that.
Plenty of time to throw rocks at them later.

re: #161 redc1c4

i'm doing it online, so i just sit here and grumble in my beer. need to get cracking on my assignments though

Online!

I feel for you then.

It does not sound like much fun at all.

Remember this SNL skit with John McCain singing Streisand? He skewers her.

[Link: vids.myspace.com...]

re: #5 saltmarsh

Can't I just eat my tadpole...

I just want to eat my tadpole.

Tying the tadpole reference in with the earlier evolution thread, here's Julie Andrews singing ''When You Were a Tadpole and I Was a Fish'' to Kermit the Frog.

The song is loosely based on this long poem called "Evolution," originally written in 1895 by one Langdon Smith (1858-1908) and polished/lengthened over subsequent years. The first stanza is:

When you were a tadpole and I was a fish
In the Paleozoic time,
And side by side on the ebbing tide
We sprawled through the ooze and slime,
Or skittered with many a caudal flip
Through the depths of the Cambrian fen,
My heart was rife with the joy of life,
For I loved you even then.

_{(If you wanna get picky, neither amphibians nor true bony fish came along until a few hundred million years after the "Cambrian" period! But both groups were certainly around by the mid-Paleozoic.)}

And after subsequent stanzas covering millions of years of evolution, it ends with the four lines:

Then as we linger at luncheon here
O’er many a dainty dish,
Let us drink anew to the time when you
Were a tadpole and I was a fish.

re: #158 really grumpy big dog Johnson

See what happens when posts aren't taken as sarcastic or cynical or whatever?

Everything gets lost in the translation.

Sorry, I was being sarcastic and cynical and also whatever as well. Your fans definitely had your back though, nice work.

re: #161 redc1c4

i'm doing it online, so i just sit here and grumble in my beer. need to get cracking on my assignments though

In one underclass meat market class I took, the prof gave the entire polysci semester over to the radical commie grad assistants.

The students would sit around in class with big newspapers in front of their faces, take their shoes off and put their feet on the chairs in front of them, and laugh and giggle all class long...

re: #165 cliffster

And you've got nothing. I was making the point that nobody is talking about the guy that's actually running for president.

I admit freely to being a noob. Your point is?

There's no need to speak of the war hero, the POW, the bipartisan, and true American John McCain. He's the one, you see, with an actual resume of Senatorial achievement.

re: #166 Opilio

I got me an Engineering Degree back in the day. Funny, not a lot of political theory found its way into Diff Eq. or Statics lectures.

Diff EQ. I'm having flashbacks. Convinced me to be a Govt Major.

re: #165 cliffster

And you've got nothing. I was making the point that nobody is talking about the guy that's actually running for president.

What more can we say about him? He's vastly more qualified than anyone else in this election.

Later Lizards! Tomorrow's trivia subject will be
the Battle of Agincourt

re: #165 cliffster

And you've got nothing. I was making the point that nobody is talking about the guy that's actually running for president.

Oh, you mean here, where BIDEN THROWS OBAMA UNDER THE BUS?
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re: #178 rawmuse

Later Lizards! Tomorrow's trivia subject will be
the Battle of Agincourt

Something about archers and artillery right?

re: #161 redc1c4

You know what I am thinking about that? You'll be okay, Red, because you have life experience but when I was a young kid in college challenging professors it was not the same way.
LOL I was a journalism major with ideals, conservative ideals. If I would have had my own paper, then fine.

re: #168 BlueCanuck

And that's a bad thing? The leftocraps are too busy focusing on the diversion and are going to totally miss the main attack. Of course come November 5th they are going to say that the election was stolen from them once again.

Maybe, but maybe not. I can't imagine them trying to make a case for a stolen election if they lose by the kind of electoral gap we're trending towards.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves.

re: #173 cliffster

Sorry, I was being sarcastic and cynical and also whatever as well. Your fans definitely had your back though, nice work.

I jumped on you, it's true. It reflects my nickname. It could happen again, but I'll try to be nicer next time. No guarantees though. When I'm really in a bad mood, I scare myself sometimes.

I'm sorry.

re: #159 Tamron

Oh-oh!

(Duck and run! Quick!)

Too late.

Sic 'em, Grumpy.
.

“Who are those guys?” — from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, 1969

re: #162 redc1c4

re: #180 Syrah

And Fwrench spurs...

re: #150 Fenway_Nation

Aren't you being a wee bit generous in referring to them as 'national'?

Also, do you have to have an account in Kozistan to vote in that poll?

Actually I have no idea who he is polling.
But you cannot vote in this poll, apparently he is calling people.
Here are his "demographics":

Men............ 516 (47%)
Women........ 584 (53%)
Democrats ....387 (35%)
Republicans... 284 (26%)
Independents .329 (30%)
Other/Refused .100 (9%)
White ............802 (73%)
Black .............145 (13%)
Latino ............140 (13%)
Other/Ref........ 13 (1%)
18-29 .............199 (18%)
30-44 .............360 (33%)
45-59 ..............302 (27%)
60+ .................239 (22%)
Northeast .........244 (22%)
South ...............316 (29%)
Midwest ............303 (28%)
West ...............237 (21%)

He also shows that women prefer Obama 53 to 41
That is simply not true.

re: #186 Typicalwhitey
Maybe he is getting them from the Dim's internal polling

re: #165 cliffster

And you've got nothing. I was making the point that nobody is talking about the guy that's actually running for president.

check out this video:

[Link: hotair.com...]

re: #183 really grumpy big dog Johnson

I jumped on you, it's true. It reflects my nickname. It could happen again, but I'll try to be nicer next time. No guarantees though. When I'm really in a bad mood, I scare myself sometimes.

I'm sorry.

No problema, who are you anyways?

What on earth has you in a bad mood tonight though? Real estate market's in the tank, financial markets are in the tank and the dollar is getting its ass kicked by the euro. Times couldn't be better!

re: #188 Typicalwhitey

That video is great! McCain lays Obama out!

re: #187 Viking6

Maybe he is getting them from the Dim's internal polling

Are you kidding?

re: #189 cliffster

uh oh

re: #190 merrytexas
Expect to see that in the debates.

re: #189 cliffster

No problema, who are you anyways?

What on earth has you in a bad mood tonight though? Real estate market's in the tank, financial markets are in the tank and the dollar is getting its ass kicked by the euro. Times couldn't be better!

Well, he's invested heavily in those shady international bankster deals, you see....

(? Time for me to gracefully fade out, Grumpy ?)
.

re: #188 Typicalwhitey

check out this video:

[Link: hotair.com...]

Hahahaha, didn't even show up to vote. Vote? What?

re: #189 cliffster

No problema, who are you anyways?

What on earth has you in a bad mood tonight though? Real estate market's in the tank, financial markets are in the tank and the dollar is getting its ass kicked by the euro. Times couldn't be better!

And yet, horrible as it is...sigh....we can still afford the luxury of internet connections.
WOW it is BAD!

re: #189 cliffster

No problema, who are you anyways?

What on earth has you in a bad mood tonight though? Real estate market's in the tank, financial markets are in the tank and the dollar is getting its ass kicked by the euro. Times couldn't be better!

I'm in a good mood tonight. I was here long before Charles even required registration. Old-timers know my original nickname. Ironically, FNDT is in the LGF dictionary with my name on it. Had no idea.

Paying short term attention to the markets is exactly what the smart investors want EVERYONE do do.

re: #186 Typicalwhitey

Wonder what the polls about Al Franken would say. Much like Obama, I can only look at that campaign and ask "You're joking, right?"

re: #189 cliffster

Real estate market's in the tank, financial markets are in the tank and the dollar is getting its ass kicked by the euro. Times couldn't be better!

Think of it as good a time as any to invest in some bargain stocks. Also, The Euro's been kicking our ass all summer long. Even with this week's clusterf*ck, it's still along the lines of $1 = .71 Euros, which is better than it was a month ago.

re: #191 Typicalwhitey
yes. But given the land that they live in it wouldn't suprise me.

re: #196 Typicalwhitey

And yet, horrible as it is...sigh....we can still afford the luxury of internet connections.
WOW it is BAD!

Roof over the head, food on the table, and high speed internet access. I think we as Americans deserve more!

re: #199 Viking6

yes. But given the land that they live in it wouldn't surprise me.

Personally I believe it is kos just propping up his minions on his website.
kos becomes irrelevant if McCain wins.

re: #196 Typicalwhitey

And yet, horrible as it is...sigh....we can still afford the luxury of internet connections.
WOW it is BAD!

Must not be too bad if Obama is raking in the dough at $28,500 a plate plus $2500 just for entertainment. Where is all that dough coming from? Don't those people have bank accounts or stocks they're worried about?

re: #197 really grumpy big dog Johnson

I'm in a good mood tonight. I was here long before Charles even required registration. Old-timers know my original nickname. Ironically, FNDT is in the LGF dictionary with my name on it. Had no idea.

Paying short term attention to the markets is exactly what the smart investors want EVERYONE do do.

i was thinking buying AIG right now might be a good short term play

re: #200 cliffster

Are you just being snarky cliffster?

re: #202 merrytexas

Must not be too bad if Obama is raking in the dough at $28,500 a plate plus $2500 just for entertainment. Where is all that dough coming from? Don't those people have bank accounts or stocks they're worried about?

hollywierd....

re: #201 Typicalwhitey

Personally I believe it is kos just propping up his minions on his website.
kos becomes remains irrelevant if McCain wins.

Fixed that for you.

re: #202 merrytexas

Must not be too bad if Obama is raking in the dough at $28,500 a plate plus $2500 just for entertainment. Where is all that dough coming from? Don't those people have bank accounts or stocks they're worried about?

I was thinking the same thing.

One thing about Obama not taking the public financing is he has to attend things like this which just play into his "elitist" perception.

Dumb move on his part.

re: #197 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Paying short term attention to the markets is exactly what the smart investors want EVERYONE do do.

Why'd you switch nics?

Funny, my dad is 75. He has no computer, no 401K, no nothing. But he texted me today. He texts all the time, because he can't hear worth a shit, so he's a 75 year old texter. His text: Have you lost a lot of money? Am I going to lose a lot?

I told him, never a better time to buy.

re: #197 really grumpy big dog Johnson

I was here long before Charles even required registration.

He was even here before Rachel Corrie married that Israeli D9 bulldozer...
.

Good night, Lizards, would love to hang around but this has been a busy week.
ZZZzzzzzzzzzzz. Have a wonderful day tomorrow.

I feel weird, all worried about AIG because we are almost to that retirement age and that is our IRA but I don't really believe in the bailouts. Bitter/Sweet.

re: #130 redc1c4

of course she'll be nice: it's the Donkeys that go below the belt.

Remember, she used to work on her husband's fishing boat. Must be very good at "gutting" cold fish.

re: #210 Pvt Bin Jammin

Gov't gave em the funds tonight. You should be okay. g'nite

re: #201 Typicalwhitey

I believe that you are probably correct in your assumption. It will be very interesting to see what will continue to have relevance in the US after Nov 4th. I think that the MSM and in general the upper echelon of the Dim's will probably become politically and socially irrelevant when McCain wins. Not that they won't be there for some time but the impact of statements and what-not will fall on many, many deaf ears.

AIG bailout US reversal of position

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

WOW:

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a prominent Hillary Clinton supporter and member of the Democratic National Committee’s Platform Committee, will endorse John McCain for president on Wednesday, her spokesman tells CNN.
The announcement will take place at a news conference on Capitol Hill, just blocks away from the DNC headquarters. Forester will “campaign and help him through the election,” the spokesman said of her plans to help the Republican presidential nominee.

Forester was a major donor for Clinton earning her the title as a Hillraiser for helping to raise at least $100,000 for the New York Democratic senator’s failed presidential bid.

In an interview with CNN this summer, Forester did not hide her distaste for eventual Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

“This is a hard decision for me personally because frankly I don't like him,” she said of Obama in an interview with CNN’s Joe Johns. “I feel like he is an elitist. I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him.”

re: #204 Typicalwhitey

Are you just being snarky cliffster?

Well, I have bills and I get stressed about how I'm going to pay them. But, I was sitting here watching Obama on my 52" HD TV talking about how the middle class is getting screwed, and for some reason I'm not feeling the pain that Barack wants me to feel.

re: #212 merrytexas

'nite. Have a good one tomorrow. I know we got the bailout but it is sort of weird.

re: #215 Typicalwhitey

WOW:

This. Is. Perfect!

re: #215 Typicalwhitey

Dude, No Way... Unfricking believable. This could move NY to the Red side

re: #201 Typicalwhitey

Personally I believe it is kos just propping up his minions on his website.
kos becomes irrelevant if McCain wins.

I am SOOOOOOOOOO looking forward to watching that place meltdown after The One loses.

re: #219 Viking6

I heard today NY was already headed that way.

re: #214 merrytexas

AIG bailout US reversal of position

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Yesterday AIG was really begging for a bridge-loan, just to tide them over until they could sell some assets. Looks like maybe they'll limp up out of this one.

Hope that's not a Bridge Loan to Nowhere!
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re: #220 Opilio

When The One loses, they will have a laundry list of why, none of it being factual lack of qualifications or his socialist/Marxist leanings.

re: #215 Typicalwhitey

Get Hillary in a dark bar somewhere, get her to take a shot like she did in that much-played shot in New Hampshire or wherever, earlier this year. Ask her, who do you want to win, really? Who makes Chelsea better off?

For what it's worth, the Asian markets are starting to bounce back as well.

re: #221 merrytexas

Me too, but this would really help seal the deal. I have an image of BHO holding his hands to his face when he hears this and effectively becomes the subject of a well known painting, "The Scream".

re: #216 cliffster

Well, I have bills and I get stressed about how I'm going to pay them. But, I was sitting here watching Obama on my 52" HD TV talking about how the middle class is getting screwed, and for some reason I'm not feeling the pain that Barack wants me to feel.

We haven't had a negative GDP quarter since 2001.
Although some areas are being hit, overall things are going ok.
I own an concrete flatwork company.

re: #221 merrytexas

I heard today NY was already headed that way.

If that's the case, it's over and the landslide has started.

re: #219 Viking6

Dude, No Way... Unfricking believable. This could move NY to the Red side

Yes way :)

re: #227 Typicalwhitey

We haven't had a negative GDP quarter since 2001.

2nd quarter 2001, right? I thought Q4 2007 was negative. I know they adjusted Q1 2008 up, but I thought we did have a streak of 1 quarter of negative growth in Q4 2007

re: #215 Typicalwhitey

WOW:

Lynn Forester de Rothschild? For McCain? WOW is right! This is a really good move! That lady has some STROKE, and I'm really glad she did this. She can see right through the Obamba.

Google her name, and see what you find.
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re: #229 Typicalwhitey
too cool for school. Thanks for the link and the prior McCain vid it was great too. Time for bed have a great night and good day.

re: #221 merrytexas

I heard today NY was already headed that way.

Yeah, I read that we're withing 5%. I'll say, if McCain wins New York, I will shit myself. And then I will clean my boxers whistling with glee.

re: #90 Typicalwhitey

I don't know.
She has been on fire lately at her stops.

Biden is a blowhard and I don't believe that type of guy can intimidate Palin.

I don't believe there IS a type of guy that can intimidate Palin. She certainly wasn't intimidated by any of the big-league politicians in her state, and she had to debate all of them.

I saw a clip of a three-way debate she was in with her primary opponents in the Gubernatorial race. The two men were at it hammer-and-tongs, and she interrupted them and said, "I think we owe it to the people of Alaska to have a higher level of discourse than this." It was the kind of moment that Moms dish out to squabbling children every day.

So when Biden starts any kind of schtick to intimidate or condescend to Palin, she'll skewer him like a fat pig and set him to roasting.

re: #213 Viking6

I believe that you are probably correct in your assumption. It will be very interesting to see what will continue to have relevance in the US after Nov 4th. I think that the MSM and in general the upper echelon of the Dim's will probably become politically and socially irrelevant when McCain wins. Not that they won't be there for some time but the impact of statements and what-not will fall on many, many deaf ears.

Their perceived mandate of the "overwhelming majority" of the people will be up in smoke. Their standing as statesmen in the legislative branch will be openly up for scrutiny. The party will fracture, but the base will still be there somewhere where the true middle was all along. Abandoned by the conservative branch and rejected by the radicals, a smaller core party will exist in a lesser form.

The non-violent left will try to have a voice outside the box again, and eventually will fall back into the coalition. It may be tougher to redeem credence with those who felt increasingly alienated as the party turned from nanny government to overt socialism.

It will take years if not decades for them to recover if a successful presidency breeds another. But I think that they are being taught valuable lessons about the resiliency of American patriotism and support for country at all cost. A reformed dem party will someday be back on top, but it won't be just around the corner.

That's if they don't win in November. I'm betting on that.

re: #223 merrytexas

When The One loses, they will have a laundry list of why, none of it being factual lack of qualifications or his socialist/Marxist leanings.

Or his inability to even pass a simple FBI background check that a Navy Yeoman would need to pass, in order to take out the office garbage.
.

re: #233 cliffster

Yeah, I read that we're withing 5%. I'll say, if McCain wins New York, I will shit myself. And then I will clean my boxers whistling with glee.

Then that's looking like an 8 point victory and roughly 100 EV. Wouldn't that be wonderful....

re: #233 cliffster

Yeah, I read that we're withing 5%. I'll say, if McCain wins New York, I will shit myself. And then I will clean my boxers whistling with glee.

--Sure would give a pretty nickel to be a fly on Obama's wall right now...
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re: #233 cliffster

Yeah, I read that we're withing 5%. I'll say, if McCain wins New York, I will shit myself. And then I will clean my boxers whistling with glee.

If McCain wins New York, Oblahblah is headed for Fritz Mondale territory.

re: #233 cliffster

Rasmussen has "the one" up by 13 pts today in NY

Rasmussen 9/16/08

re: #201 Typicalwhitey

Personally I believe it is kos just propping up his minions on his website.
kos becomes irrelevant if McCain wins.

Totally disagree, there -- I think it'd be an Obama victory (не дай Бог!) that would completely take the wind out of kos's sails, since kos is all about reacting against the Rethuglikkkan Establishment.

re: #235 really grumpy big dog Johnson

They felt like they had an Overwhelming Majority mandate back in 2004 too, right up until they lost the election by 5 million votes. Seems like they have this false sense of security brought on by ABC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, and also sort of CBS. And NYT, Washington Post, blah blah. Not hard to see the reason for their arrogance. You think they'll snap out of it if they lose this year. I don't know, though.. I've seen Nancy Pelosi in all her snideness and I think they'll die before admitting they aren't loved by all.

re: #235 really grumpy big dog Johnson

I'll take that bet and raise you 10. I don't think they'll ever learn. They didn't learn from Gore's loss; they didn't learn from Kerry's loss. They continue to put up far left pols that the people don't want. The far left will keep control of the party because the middle of the road conservative democrats are too nice to take it away from them.

re: #241 Throbert McGee

Totally disagree, there -- I think it'd be an Obama victory (не дай Бог!) that would completely take the wind out of kos's sails, since kos is all about reacting against the Rethuglikkkan Establishment.

kos wants to be a player in an Obama administration.

re: #234 stuiec

I don't believe there IS a type of guy that can intimidate Palin. She certainly wasn't intimidated by any of the big-league politicians in her state, and she had to debate all of them.

I saw a clip of a three-way debate she was in with her primary opponents in the Gubernatorial race. The two men were at it hammer-and-tongs, and she interrupted them and said, "I think we owe it to the people of Alaska to have a higher level of discourse than this." It was the kind of moment that Moms dish out to squabbling children every day.

So when Biden starts any kind of schtick to intimidate or condescend to Palin, she'll skewer him like a fat pig and set him to roasting.

I heard that one reason Alaska's senior Republican senators were ticked at Sarah was that when she became Governor and attended a Legislative session, she got so ticked-off at what she saw, she told them, "It looks like you need some adult supervision around here."

It went over like a loud fart in church, but you get the point......
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re: #221 merrytexas

I heard today NY was already headed that way.

A poll was published yesterday that showed Obama at +5 in NY, today another showed Obama +13. Today's sample size? 500 likely voters. 500!!! There are 7,000,000 likely voters in NY, give or take. 500 is 0.007%

re: #240 kw26

Rasmussen has "the one" up by 13 pts today in NY

Rasmussen 9/16/08

I'm fine with that. This is our bread and butter. Just keep the good hard working folks of America going to the polls, and we'll be fine.

Ben Shapiro's Wednesday Column on Townhall

Gave me a chuckle, it did.

G'nite lgf'ers. You guys are great.

re: #245 Tamron

I heard that one reason Alaska's senior Republican senators were ticked at Sarah was that when she became Governor and attended a Legislative session, she got so ticked-off at what she saw, she told them, "It looks like you need some adult supervision around here."

It went over like a loud fart in church, but you get the point......
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like diarrhea ice cubes in the punch bowl, eh?

re: #250 redc1c4

Somebody say something else, so diarrhea ice cubes aren't what we're talking about...

onomotopoea

re: #215 Typicalwhitey

Fascinating: the Democrats split their party in two, and the winning faction's leader did nothing of any consequence to unify the party (other than strong-arm the leaders of the defeated faction, the Clintons, into making some public statements). He didn't help Hillary with her campaign debt, he didn't give her the VP slot, he did nothing to win over her supporters. And the anger he let fester spilled over into the PUMA phenomenon, of which this is the latest and most high-profile example.

Contrast and compare: the Republicans were split into at least three, between the McCainiacs, the Huckabites, and the Other Conservatives. The winning contender spoke well of the defeated factions, tried to win them over -- and in the end, chose a running mate that energized the defeated factions to support his candidacy. He didn't try to force party unity or create the illusion of party unity: he unified his party.

The Democrats are reaping the fruits of their own internal divisions. They're following the model of the Bolsheviks vs. the Mensheviks, except that the Bolsheviks had the luxury of using real bullets to persuade the Mensheviks to get with the Party program (or die).

I doubt that McCain will win NY but he may reduce the margin by enough there and other blue states to help with the popular vote total so it won't look too close.