Aiyee. This makes my skin crawl.

Probably an inside job.

Thought they hit rock bottom....but they just got a jack hammer and a bigger shovel.

Ethical is a word that lefties neither comprehend nor use. This latest stunt does not surprise me in the least.

Is it genuine?

Privacy for me but not for thee, you Republican plebes!

Oh darn, the site is blocked by my company's firewall. Saves me some blood pressure points, at least.

Of course there is no depth to which they will not sink. However, isn't that illegal?

Can't these scum be sued for this?

re: #8 Darwin Akbar

GMTA

pretty disgusting to see someone do this, but once Pandora's Box is open, try to get things back to their previous state is impossible.

Here's all you need to know about Gawker:

Ok, sad thing first: a good Samaritan reset the password and tried to alert Sarah.

Politics aside, this is the attitude of a complete a**hole.

And these are the same people championing personal privacy no? Spying on Islamists? You go directly to jail.
Spying on a VP candidate?
Publish it on the NET!

I wonder if Obama stutters when he emails.

Anyone on the left screeching about the abuses of the Patriot Act?

What What?

re: #14 debutaunt

I wonder if Obama stutters when he emails.

The Big Zero doesn't need to e-mail. He can communicate telepathically with his minions.

There is no depth to which these people will sink.

Stock up on fresh water, booze, ammunition and canned food. If McCain wins this election, things are going to get even more nasty than we can imagine.

re: #13 Sizzlack

And these are the same people championing personal privacy no? Spying on Islamists? You go directly to jail.
Spying on a VP candidate?
Publish it on the NET!

Indeed.

Obama is now delivering his economic sermon at a rally in Elko NV.
You can't tell if he is for the AIG bail out or not.
He is attacking McCain not Palin. Duh, when did they come to that.

I expect the Secret Service is going to be all over this.

Won't that be fun, hackerz?

The Progressives are a bottomless pit when it comes to the depths they will stoop to, to insure their candidate's victory in the election.

AK State government using Yahoo for email? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

I see a gov.state.ak.us domain on AK State pages.

Self-righteous has just become a gross understatement

Ho-o-o-o-ope. Cha-a-a-a-ange. Sinister, hypocritical motherfuckers.

If the cat is already out of the proverbial bag, I'm not that concerned about what outfit did it. Gawker, in this case. I'm more concerned, for the moment, at whether the 'cat' is doing any damage.

From what I can tell, there's nothing incriminating, or even negative in the emails. After a cursory read, at least. Let's hope that's correct.

the fun-loving Internet trouble-makers based loosely around the message board 4Chan, gained access to another Palin email account

So "gained access" is the new term for "hacked into in an immoral and possibly illegal way"?

Snooping on the lives of others, how STASI/totalitarian.

It's a good thing neither Hillary nor Bill Clinton can type, as Dick Morris disclosed Monday night. Therefore, no emails!

So much for championing Civil Liberties, lefties!

And the ACLU will speak on behalf of Governor Palin sometime between now and never.

re: #21 Honorary Yooper

The Progressives are a bottomless pit when it comes to the depths they will stoop to, to insure their candidate's victory in the election.

POWER IS LIFE!

Anything goes for such people. Any limit on what they can do is poison to them.

re: #17 Ringo the Gringo

There is no depth to which these people will sink.

Stock up on fresh water, booze, ammunition and canned food. If McCain wins this election, things are going to get even more nasty than we can imagine.

I hope they take it to the streets.

Room clearing that many basements would be a bitch, let them cluster and you can carpet bomb.

re: #22 jcm

AK State government using Yahoo for email? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

I see a gov.state.ak.us domain on AK State pages.

That's what I was wondering... Maybe she just preferred the Yahoo account for personal email, though.

well to the left this is acceptable because some jewish teen (hired by McCain advisors) stole obama's note to God on the Wall. and if memory serves obama note was..."dear God! Please make me better person! wait nevermind God, I can't be any better than I am now! give me a call after Jan 20th, 09 we'll do lunch! On me! best wishes, obama"

re: #21 Honorary Yooper

The Progressives are a bottomless pit when it comes to the depths they will stoop to, to insure their candidate's victory in the election.

This modern Democrat Party has become a freak show.
A Presidential candidate tries to impede troop withdrawl, with no authority & that seems to be no problem.

I don't think they are correct, retention laws would apply to the State address domains not Yahoo.

re: #16 Honorary Yooper

The Big Zero doesn't need to e-mail. He can communicate telepathically with his minions.

I thought he used an orb.

re: #20 godfrey

I expect the Secret Service is going to be all over this.

Won't that be fun, hackerz?

They will be the guys with the earphones saying "Move along, nothing to see here."

I wonder what Obama's and Biden's private emails say?

re: #34 jcm

Yeah, their contention is that Palin was illegally using a private address to conduct state business.

I don't want to give them the click. Anyone care to wade into the cesspool? If it's anything like my private email, I'm going to say it's heavy on notes to my husband about defrosting dinner and cute cat pictures.

Let's make sure we give jihadis civil rights, but Sarah Palin's go right under the bus!

re: #40 Sharmuta

Oh, publishing private information like this is called "civil disobedience."

It's not a fault, it's a virtue!

Etc.

Sarah Palin now has Secret Service protection, coincidently Internet Crime is on their plate anyway. Hope they get right on this.

re: #20 godfrey

I expect the Secret Service is going to be all over this.

Won't that be fun, hackerz?

I hope they do. I sincerely hope they do. I would have raised Cain if someone had hacked my private email account, let alone that of a VP nominee.

re: #40 Sharmuta

Let's make sure we give jihadis civil rights, but Sarah Palin's go right under the bus!

Anything to injure America, Shar, the Progressives will do anything to injure America and insure their power. For power is all to the Progressive, and individual rights matter not.

re: #37 Maximu§

I wonder what Obama's and Biden's private emails say?

Ahhh... the politics of change

re: #32 Spider Mensch

well to the left this is acceptable because some jewish teen (hired by McCain advisors) stole obama's note to God on the Wall. and if memory serves obama note was..."dear God! Please make me better person! wait nevermind God, I can't be any better than I am now! give me a call after Jan 20th, 09 we'll do lunch! On me! best wishes, obama"

That was a fake, the message was already released by him.

One of the comments at the site:

The conspiracy theorist in me says that someone in the McCain campaign hacked in, posted the password so that everyone would log in and get the site shut down and the contents deleted.

I lose more faith in my fellow Americans everyday. This nation has so much potential, so many opprutunities to be head and shoulders above the rest and it's all going to hell.

WTF?

Well we know google is in the tank for obama, is yahoo as well?

1) This is the opposite of classy. Haxing somebody's personal email? How low can you go? So much for the right to privacy...

2) Doesn't look like they got anything of interest out of it, if it was even genuine. If it is, I bet Bristol gets like 5000 dirty emails from the "pro-woman", "progressive", "feminist" types.

Let's see if this punk is as lucky hacking out of a prison cell

re: #37 Maximu§

I wonder what Obama's and Biden's private emails say?

Does Uncle Joe even know how to type, much less turn on a computer?

Just remember... We're playing by their rules this time. No civility, no code of ethics, no rules of engagement. We should launch an all out attack on the left and rid this country of their Anti-American Marxist Leaders once and for all.

I'm ashamed to admit that I used to spend alot of time reading Gawker and e-mailing with the writers back when it was a decent source of publish industry news. Gawker Editor/Publisher Nick Denton will do ANYTHING for ad revenue. No, seriously. Anything. In terms of echo-chamberiness, Gawker is right up there with Kos.

re: #38 godfrey

Yeah, their contention is that Palin was illegally using a private address to conduct state business.

If that's true, then the emails must indeed be made public. But there are legal ways to learn whether the allegation is true or not; hacking into the account isn't one of them.

re: #40 Sharmuta

Let's make sure we give jihadis civil rights, but Sarah Palin's go right under the bus!

They are not giving the respect that they afford enemy combatants.
Actually, they really view them as freedom Fightgers anyway.

re: #37 Maximu§

Obama probably sends messages to himself.

re: #52 Shug

Let's see if this punk is as lucky hacking out of a prison cell

Nah. He'll learn about Bubba soon enough.

re: #29 The Other Les

Not just power, but the power to hurt and to kill, that is what the left worships.

Nuts. She the governor; can't she make some phone calls and have some bad things happen to these guys?

Hey all, register your opinion on a poll at the PBS website:

Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?

Looks like NOW is obviously trying to load it down, against Sarah (surprise?).
.

These morons can't see the nose on their ugly faces. Don't they know they are exposing themselves for what they are and not Sarah Palin? That is the lowest of the low, no better than a window peeper with a camera, and they should be sued and thrown in the slammer.

re: #44 Honorary Yooper

Anything to injure America, Shar, the Progressives will do anything to injure America and insure their power. For power is all to the Progressive, and individual rights matter not.

Who's going to speak truth to power when the "progressives" have the power?

What grabbed me is that not one of these slobs commenting had the courage to say, "Ya know, I'm not votin' for McCain, but this is wrong"

These are the kind of scum that laugh when they see someone get hit by a car

Hey all, register your opinion on a poll at the PBS website:

Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?

Looks like NOW is obviously trying to load it down, against Sarah (surprise?).

Followed up with the question: " Do you think BHO is qualified to be a community ornganizer?"

re: #56 Cognito

What counts as "state business"? One can't use email to communicate anything off the record? Seems absurd.

The problem here is that "hacking" a public account as on yahoo, msn, etc. is incredibly easy. The "security questions" are often the most insecure questions where the answers can be easily looked up, such as mother's maiden name, etc.

The industry needs to find a better way to secure these accounts. I've read some articles on this but haven't heard of any good ideas.

I feel sick that this what it has come to. The party of the ACLU has no problem I am sure with this. With each passing day that the Left sinks to new lows, I become more certain in my support for a McCain / Palin ticket. These people canot be trusted with this country.

Absolute scumbag! for$50 I know another scumbag who will do the same thing

I can see a law against using a state address to conduct private business but how can it be illegal to use a private address to conduct state business? Maybe a security regulation, that is why the POTUS doesn't do email, but you can do your business anywhere, at home or office.

re: #67 godfrey

What counts as "state business"? One can't use email to communicate anything off the record? Seems absurd.

No, any communication regarding state business is part of the public record.

re: #38 godfrey

Yeah, their contention is that Palin was illegally using a private address to conduct state business.

I guess that would be the crux. First what are the relevant Fed and State statues on conducting Official State Business on non-State email accounts. Dumb move to do so considering security and all that. Second, was official business conducted on the yahoo accounts.

Regardless, my guess is they'll switch to this for awhile since troopergate is fizzling out.

Is it any different than this: Report Finds Republican Aides Spied On Democrats ?

From the New York Times, By NEIL A. LEWIS, Published: March 5, 2004.

''I am mortified that this improper, unethical and simply unacceptable breach of confidential files occurred,'' Senator Orrin G. Hatch, the Utah Republican who is the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, told reporters. ''There is no excuse that can justify these improper actions.''

Senator Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont, the committee's ranking Democrat, said, ''This report indisputably shows that this secret surveillance was calculated, systematic and sweeping in its scope.''

re: #70 obageegee

Absolute scumbag! for$50 I know another scumbag who will do the same thing

hell ,,, I know a guy for $25 and a six pack will kneecap the guy! (for another $5 he'll f=do the othre knee!)

j/k (((((sorta ,,,, hehehehe)))))

Actually, it's a Rove-Cheney-McBushCain false-flag operation to turn popular opinion against the left.

/adjusting tinfoil hat

re: #38 godfrey

Yeah, their contention is that Palin was illegally using a private address to conduct state business.

I thought she was a lightweight politician with no experience; so nothing she does over email or anything else would be of any consequence anyways right?

If they would feel righteous in doing this to Palin, what would stop them from doing that to any of us?

re: #22 jcm

It's her personal email you yutz.

re: #58 godfrey

Obama probably sends messages to himself.

From: The_O@Messiah.com
To: The_O@Messiah.com
Subject: Grocery list and more

1. Buy arugula. Need to find out price at local store here in Hickville, CO, and if they even carry it.
2. Must find out how to destroy that Palin woman.
3. Must make sure Markos Moulitsas gets a Christmas gift this year.

PS. Don't get on Michelle's bad side.

re: #58 godfrey

Obama probably sends messages to himself.

Anybody check to see if I_President_of_The_United_States_of_America@yahoo. com is taken?

re: #62 Tamron

One can vote early and often on that poll. Although it doesn't make clear if the repeated votes are actually registered.

re: #72 Cognito

Right, but what is "state business"? I can certainly see that anything transactional would be part of it. But chitchat between colleagues? Come on.

re: #39 doppelganglander

I don't want to give them the click. Anyone care to wade into the cesspool? If it's anything like my private email, I'm going to say it's heavy on notes to my husband about defrosting dinner and cute cat pictures.

Loads of funny baby videos.

"As President, I will make cyber-security the top priority that it should be in the 21st century. I'll declare our cyber-infrastructure a strategic asset, and appoint a National Cyber Advisor who will report directly to me".

Sen Barack Obama, 7/16/08 West Lafayette, Ind

re: #71 lifeofthemind

I can see a law against using a state address to conduct private business but how can it be illegal to use a private address to conduct state business? Maybe a security regulation, that is why the POTUS doesn't do email, but you can do your business anywhere, at home or office.

It's illegal because it can be used to circumvent the public record. Like having secret meetings. It's the people's right to know how their government is being run.

(For the record and posterity: I'm not saying Palin did any such thing. The conversation has now wandered into the abstraction of legality. That is all.)

I am a lttle surprised this was not foreseen by the McCain camp. But then again, John thought the press "liked" him...

re: #25 Cognito

So would you say there's anything unethical about hacking her e-mail? Or is it just a-okay?

re: #79 Syrah

If they would feel righteous in doing this to Palin, what would stop them from doing that to any of us?

It's a quick step from here to denouncing your neighbor.

It was many years ago that I read the Communist Manifesto in school, but if I remember correctly Marx liked the concept that the ends justify the means, and honor was scorned as merely a bourgeois virtue.
The left is just living up to their ideals.

re: #82 Honorary Yooper

That caused a laugh that turned heads in my office. I applaud. :)

re: #81 Molon Labe

It's her personal email you yutz.

I understand that. The question is did she conduct state business on that account, and what are the relevant laws on that.

re: #68 vxbush

The "security questions" are often the most insecure questions where the answers can be easily looked up, such as mother's maiden name, etc.

One doesn't HAVE to use the actual maiden name. One only has to remember (or record) what was entered as the correct answer.

Isn't it a federal crime?
Can't something be done about it, let alone be talked about in the MSM?

Liberals are sick. It's official.

re: #75 buzzsawmonkey

"Absolut scumbag?" That's one vodka ad I missed.

LOL Perfect for a "dirty" martini.

re: #77 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Actually, it's a Rove-Cheney-McBushCain false-flag operation to turn popular opinion against the left.

/adjusting tinfoil hat

Exactly. I bet Halliburton had it's hand in there somewhere too.

I just posted this over at Ace's place, but...

If she was using the yahoo account for political stuff and/or other personal stuff, and not actual state business, that shows she was complying with the law to the letter. Do any of the posted messages show true state business, or are they all political stuff? If they are not real state business, this is a win for her "Yes, that is my account, i set it up so that I could in no way use Alaska official resources for my personal political use"

re: #85 godfrey

Right, but what is "state business"? I can certainly see that anything transactional would be part of it. But chitchat between colleagues? Come on.

There is no chitchat, when it's the people's business. Them be the rulz.

re: #17 Ringo the Gringo

There is no depth to which these people will sink.

Stock up on fresh water, booze, ammunition and canned food. If McCain wins this election, things are going to get even more nasty than we can imagine.

You are wrong: if OBAMA wins this election, all hell will break loose. He and his surrogates have already done the following: (1) they have blocked all access to any information on Obama that should have been made public; (2) they have forbidden private radio and television stations from airing ads they dislike; (3) they have asked the Department of Justice to investigate private organizations which produce ads they dislike; (4) they have invaded private citizens' private e-mail accounts; (5) they have harassed radio stations, trying to prevent investigative journalists from presenting their findings; (6) they have negotiated with foreign governments against the interests of the elected government of the United States for electoral gains...

They have also vowed to: (7) press criminal charges against the current president, as if the US were a banana republic; (8) restore the "fairness doctrine" to radio and push for one on the web.

America under Obama: a Marxist police state under construction.

What are the legal consequences of hacking a sitting governor's email address?

re: #92 brakes

It was many years ago that I read the Communist Manifesto in school, but if I remember correctly Marx liked the concept that the ends justify the means, and honor was scorned as merely a bourgeois virtue.
The left is just living up to their ideals.

Right, Malcolm X also advocated:..."By any means necessary" as a rallying cry to achieve their perceptions of liberation

re: #90 joncelli

So would you say there's anything unethical about hacking her e-mail? Or is it just a-okay?

Are you just making this up as you go?

"Civilization is like a thin veneer....

....the more you polish it, the thinner it gets."

re: #68 vxbush

The problem here is that "hacking" a public account as on yahoo, msn, etc. is incredibly easy. The "security questions" are often the most insecure questions where the answers can be easily looked up, such as mother's maiden name, etc.

The industry needs to find a better way to secure these accounts. I've read some articles on this but haven't heard of any good ideas.

Good security starts with your password. The underlying problem is that people use terrible passwords that are easy to guess, either by social engineering or by some kind of automated dictionary-based script.

Passwords for things you want to remain secure should never contain real words, or names, and should always have a mix of letters and numbers and punctuation (if the site allows punctuation).

re: #91 Who Watches the Watchmen?

It's a quick step from here to denouncing your neighbor.

Very short.

I fear that they would respect no bonds, that for them, the ends can be used to justify any means.

re: #14 debutaunt

I wonder if Obama stutters when he emails.

now-now w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-wait-wait-a minute.

re: #95 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The "security questions" are often the most insecure questions where the answers can be easily looked up, such as mother's maiden name, etc.

One doesn't HAVE to use the actual maiden name. One only has to remember (or record) what was entered as the correct answer.

Exactly. I have a standard set of words to use for all the usual questions, all of which were picked at random from the dictionary and none of which are in anyway relevant to the actual answers.

secret service alert

the left will do anything to achieve their end goal.
remember when they got Michael Steele's SS # and looked up his financials?

re: #95 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The "security questions" are often the most insecure questions where the answers can be easily looked up, such as mother's maiden name, etc..

One doesn't HAVE to use the actual maiden name. One only has to remember (or record) what was entered as the correct answer,

DAMMIT! PIMF! Screwed up the quote function

re: #104 Cognito

Are you just making this up as you go?

I thought it was a legit question. Are you capable of giving an honest straight answer?

The comments were an interesting aspect to this sordid affair. They were so full of anti-Alaskan comments and jokes that would be deemed racist in nature if applied to anyone else.....or for that fact at another time.

Hypocrite thy name is liberal.

re: #99 andy077

Indeed.

re: #74 SuaSponte

Nope

Does Obama approve?

Looks like left-wing brown shirted hacks are just that - HACKS.

re: #91 Who Watches the Watchmen?

It's a quick goose-step from here to denouncing your neighbor.

Slight tweak.

re: #62 Tamron

Hey all, register your opinion on a poll at the PBS website:

Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?

Looks like NOW is obviously trying to load it down, against Sarah (surprise?).
.

Just went and voted and yes, it looks like a loaded poll right now.

re: #109 KibbyKat

Nevermind. Charles is right. Off to change my passwords.

re: #108 Age Of Freedom

now-now w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-wait-wait-a minute.

Whoops! I heard Jimmy Stewart instead of The One...

re: #74 SuaSponte

Is it any different than this: Report Finds Republican Aides Spied On Democrats ?

From the New York Times, By NEIL A. LEWIS, Published: March 5, 2004.

''I am mortified that this improper, unethical and simply unacceptable breach of confidential files occurred,'' Senator Orrin G. Hatch, the Utah Republican who is the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, told reporters. ''There is no excuse that can justify these improper actions.''

Senator Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont, the committee's ranking Democrat, said, ''This report indisputably shows that this secret surveillance was calculated, systematic and sweeping in its scope.''

The difference here, is we also condemn this unacceptable behavior while the left openly publicizes the egregious breach of privacy. If you'll also note, one of the people you quoted was also a republican.

P.S. I'll bet they just guessed her password, possibly with a script.

re: #104 Cognito

Do you ever get tired of being a fucking asswipe?

re: #106 Charles

Good security starts with your password. The underlying problem is that people use terrible passwords that are easy to guess, either by social engineering or by some kind of automated dictionary-based script.

Passwords for things you want to remain secure should never contain real words, or names, and should always have a mix of letters and numbers and punctuation (if the site allows punctuation).

I like the keyboard mash, smash and poke. It makes for ugly passwords, but they are real tough to hack.

re: #95 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The "security questions" are often the most insecure questions where the answers can be easily looked up, such as mother's maiden name, etc.

One doesn't HAVE to use the actual maiden name. One only has to remember (or record) what was entered as the correct answer.

Yes, but most people don't do that.

re: #87 Outrider

'words, just words.'

re: #113 sattv4u2

I thought it was a legit question. Are you capable of giving an honest straight answer?

It's not a legit question. It's pulled from thin air, and has nothing to do with what I've said. It's similar to "do you advocate the beating of puppies?"

Sorry, I'm not going to bother. Especially when I've already answered it in a previous post.

re: #123 Charles

P.S. I'll bet they just guessed her password, possibly with a script.

yeah, and now the LLLeft will say "how can you trust her with the nucular codes?"

Passwords for things you want to remain secure should never contain real words, or names, and should always have a mix of letters and numbers and punctuation (if the site allows punctuation).

When I set up my wireless internet at home, my "smart friend" told me to randomly mix in lower and upper case letters. So even if someone figures out my passward (itself unlikely), they will never figure out which letters are upper case and which are lower.

That's lower than low. I used to frequent lifehacker . com (Gawker media site) but I'm done with them.

re: #124 joncelli

Do you ever get tired of being a fucking asswipe?

As long as you need wiping, I'm your man.

Secret Service and FBI should be all over this.

re: #60 Syrah

Not just power, but the power to hurt and to kill, that is what the left worships.

Without the power to hurt or kill they cannot coerce others into supporting their parasitical asses. They hate the Society of Consent.

Because of their hatred of the principle of Consent they look for any excuse to reject the inherent moral standards of a rational society where consent is the basis of human relationships. They look for any excuse to justify compulsion in any situation.

Why?

Because their lives depend on it.

Because as parasites on a rational and productive society power over the productive population is essential to their survival and well being.

I cannot emphasize this point enough: POWER IS LIFE!

They persistently denounce reason because no consistently rational individual will consent to being carrying the burden of a willful parasite.

They persistently cook up excuses for acts of brutal subjugation because without such behavior they would simply wither away and die.

Well that's my theory and I'm sticking with it.

re: #106 Charles

Good security starts with your password. The underlying problem is that people use terrible passwords that are easy to guess, either by social engineering or by some kind of automated dictionary-based script.

Passwords for things you want to remain secure should never contain real words, or names, and should always have a mix of letters and numbers and punctuation (if the site allows punctuation).

True, but in most "hacking" cases people learn what the account is and go through the links for "I forgot my password! HELP!" Then the system all too easily provides a back door for getting a replacement password, which in this case went to the wrong person.

Again, good security here is much harder than it looks.

re: #132 Cognito

good one

re: #128 Cognito

It's not a legit question. It's pulled from thin air, and has nothing to do with what I've said. It's similar to "do you advocate the beating of puppies?"

Sorry, I'm not going to bother. Especially when I've already answered it in a previous post.

sorry if I missed that (people DO come and go here, you know) May I ask what that answer was? Seems it would have been easier to just re-answer it forthrightly instead of dragging foolishness ("do you advocate the beating of puppies?") into it!

re: #45 MandyManners

Obama: Hacked into Palin's emails yet?

Biden: Got Gawker to do it. Can't trace it back to us.

re: #107 Syrah

Very short.

I fear that they would respect no bonds, that for them, the ends can be used to justify any means.

My grandmother's family was lined up in the snow and their house searched for a second loaf of bread on the Sabbath because they were denounced. If she hadn't had the foresight to hide that second loaf in the ashes, I wouldn't be here today.

They're worried about Gov. Palin banning books from the library? You ain't seen nothing yet.

I am really tired of seeing Obama's cronies attacking and trying to destroy this good woman. For once, I want to see all the Obama dirt that is posted here and elsewheres in the blogosphere get aired in a major way. He can dish it out, but I strongly suspect he can not take it.

re: #129 noshariaincanada

yeah, and now the LLLeft will say "how can you trust her with the nucular codes?"

My knee-jerk response? Yes, let's give them to Heroin Boy instead.

Isn't this a little bit like Watergate? Except, of course, that the "plumbers" that made the break-in in this case are low-level Democrat Party operatives supporting the Obama campaign.

Things like this might bring down Obama, if the liberal media ever got ahold of it...

...and that will obviously never happen.

re: #74 SuaSponte

Is it any different than this: Report Finds Republican Aides Spied On Democrats ?

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

One key difference in this case is that the Palin account hackers had to actually do some sort of hacking, cracking, or social engineering to get into the account -- at the very least, they had to use someone else's password. The Dems' files were left wide open, despite the Dem sysadmin being warned about it. Nobody had to hack to get into those files.

It's not ethical in either case. But I suspect it was entirely legal in the Senate/judiciary case. And IMO it's a much bigger breach of ethics to actually hack into something to read it than to read something that's been left wide open.

re: #137 sattv4u2

sorry if I missed that (people DO come and go here, you know) May I ask what that answer was? Seems it would have been easier to just re-answer it forthrightly instead of dragging foolishness ("do you advocate the beating of puppies?") into it!

I gave my opinion in post 56. And if someone has a problem with something I've said, I'm more than happy to address it. But no, I won't be chasing around every invented idea that someone poses.

re: #128 Cognito

It's not a legit question. It's pulled from thin air, and has nothing to do with what I've said. It's similar to "do you advocate the beating of puppies?"

Sorry, I'm not going to bother. Especially when I've already answered it in a previous post.

wow, you really ok with beating puppies?

/couldn't resist

re: #139 Who Watches the Watchmen?

My grandmother's family was lined up in the snow and their house searched for a second loaf of bread on the Sabbath because they were denounced. If she hadn't had the foresight to hide that second loaf in the ashes, I wouldn't be here today.

They're worried about Gov. Palin banning books from the library? You ain't seen nothing yet.

Second loaf of bread? I do not understand.

re: #109 KibbyKat

Exactly. I have a standard set of words to use for all the usual questions, all of which were picked at random from the dictionary and none of which are in anyway relevant to the actual answers.

That's very good.

Getting back to vxbush's point, one of my on-line bill-payment portals asks "an additional security question" -- city of current residence -- current telephone number -- et cetera. This is utter bullshit, because the answers are based upon my account billing information. The company is trying to convince their customers that their website is secure.

re: #132 Cognito

[Cooling off] Okay, I was out of line and childish, and I apologize. Your initial post seemed to take no particular position on hacking and it angered me. Please accept my apologies.

re: #123 Charles

P.S. I'll bet they just guessed her password, possibly with a script.

I just tried logging into LGF with Charles/charLes2000, and it worked! Everything Cognito has ever said is about to disappear...

re: #92 brakes

It was many years ago that I read the Communist Manifesto in school, but if I remember correctly Marx liked the concept that the ends justify the means, and honor was scorned as merely a bourgeois virtue.
The left is just living up to their ideals.

That would also be the Saul Alinsky Code of Conduct.

re: #134 The Other Les

Without the power to hurt or kill they cannot coerce others into supporting their parasitical asses. They hate the Society of Consent.

Because of their hatred of the principle of Consent they look for any excuse to reject the inherent moral standards of a rational society where consent is the basis of human relationships. They look for any excuse to justify compulsion in any situation.

Why?

Because their lives depend on it.

Because as parasites on a rational and productive society power over the productive population is essential to their survival and well being.

I cannot emphasize this point enough: POWER IS LIFE!

They persistently denounce reason because no consistently rational individual will consent to being carrying the burden of a willful parasite.

They persistently cook up excuses for acts of brutal subjugation because without such behavior they would simply wither away and die.

Well that's my theory and I'm sticking with it.

I would like to say that you are wrong, but I fear that you are correct. They are the darkness.

Why don't we lizards all band together and post a billion messages on their site--do whatever we can to clog/corrupt/crash their system?

re: #148 joncelli

Don't sweat it. It's an election year, I'm cranky too.

Passwords are very easy to swipe, especially if they are not complex.

re: #25 Cognito

If the cat is already out of the proverbial bag, I'm not that concerned about what outfit did it. Gawker, in this case. I'm more concerned, for the moment, at whether the 'cat' is doing any damage.

From what I can tell, there's nothing incriminating, or even negative in the emails. After a cursory read, at least. Let's hope that's correct.

Well, I think we should be concerned about what outfit did it.
This can't be legal; and if it is, then it certainly isn't at all ethical.

Outfits that do this should be held to some standard, and should be willing to face whatever consequences there are for this kind of behavior.

Obama has tried to shut down talk-show programs that invite guests that he doesn't want poeple to hear.

Now this group is selectively hacking into private e-mail accounts and publishing what they find.

What's next? Do we in this country, or do we not have right of free speech? Do we, or do we not have an expectation of privacy in certain areas of our lives? It appears to me that Obama and many of those who support him believe it is perfectly OK to override the rights of the rest of us. Really frightening, in my book, and the "who did it" is just as important for the long-term (or more so) than whether or not the "cat" is doing any immediate damage.

re: #100 Cognito

There is no chitchat, when it's the people's business. Them be the rulz.

I call Bull Hockey...

As a state employee we have access to the net and personal e-mail just like any other employer as long as we don't access materials that run afoul of harassment laws or abuse of office equipment.

In fact on the personal stuff we're required to have our own cell phones for personal conversations and not use state blackberry's ect. to cut down on state costs.

Unless she intentionally stored sensitive work documents on an unknown server or file system to keep them from a freedom of information request then there is no problem with her having a personal e-mail account, even if she used it to correspond with other government or political figures.

Methinks sharing pics of the kiddies or commenting on how tough her campaign has been doesn't really rise to the level of sensitive state materials.

re: #142 One_American

Isn't this a little bit like Watergate? Except, of course, that the "plumbers" that made the break-in in this case are low-level Democrat Party operatives supporting the Obama campaign.

Things like this might bring down Obama, if the liberal media ever got ahold of it...

...and that will obviously never happen.

That's because in 2008 "Deep Throat" is what the media is giving Obama.

re: #152 hbwriter

Why don't we lizards all band together and post a billion messages on their site--do whatever we can to clog/corrupt/crash their system?

Gawker is not the problem, just the symptom.

Wacking Gawker would not amount to much in the overall scheme of things.

Last I heard, invading someone's mail was a federal offense. In the days of the old west it was punishable by hanging. Hell, at one point US Marines were stationed on mail cars. This is a disturbing trend, will people be forced to say, "I love Big Brother Obama."

re: #101 SouthAmericanWay

You are wrong: if OBAMA wins this election, all hell will break loose. He and his surrogates have already done the following: (1) they have blocked all access to any information on Obama that should have been made public; (2) they have forbidden private radio and television stations from airing ads they dislike; (3) they have asked the Department of Justice to investigate private organizations which produce ads they dislike; (4) they have invaded private citizens' private e-mail accounts; (5) they have harassed radio stations, trying to prevent investigative journalists from presenting their findings; (6) they have negotiated with foreign governments against the interests of the elected government of the United States for electoral gains...

They have also vowed to: (7) press criminal charges against the current president, as if the US were a banana republic; (8) restore the "fairness doctrine" to radio and push for one on the web.

America under Obama: a Marxist police state under construction.

How do I double up-ding?

re: #152 hbwriter

Why don't we lizards all band together and post a billion messages on their site--do whatever we can to clog/corrupt/crash their system?

They're a much bigger site, unfortunately. But more to the point: Why? Let them hang themselves, if they're wrong. I've not seen anything to indicate, so far, that they're correct.

re: #92 brakes

It was many years ago that I read the Communist Manifesto in school, but if I remember correctly Marx liked the concept that the ends justify the means...

You mean Marx plagiarized the Koran?

Back in twelve.

Recheck all your passwords people.

Making them big and make them messy.

re: #144 Cognito

I gave my opinion in post 56
If that's true, then the emails must indeed be made public. But there are legal ways to learn whether the allegation is true or not; hacking into the account isn't one of them.

Starting a sentence with IF does not convey your conviction of something. The legitimate question was (not limited to this case) do you condone hacking inot someone's e-mail account, regardless of who it is or on what site it is

re: #139 Who Watches the Watchmen?

My grandmother's family was lined up in the snow and their house searched for a second loaf of bread on the Sabbath because they were denounced. If she hadn't had the foresight to hide that second loaf in the ashes, I wouldn't be here today.

They're worried about Gov. Palin banning books from the library? You ain't seen nothing yet.

Where? When?

re: #152 hbwriter

Unless Nick has changed things, a person has to be approved or invited to comment. Yep, very democratic over there. I have a couple of Gawker Media login names, but I wouldn't be able to make much of a splash before they disable my accounts.

re: #102 godfrey

What are the legal consequences of hacking a sitting governor's private citizens email address?

Fixed it for ya!

They are total hypocrites, those!

re: #156 Daddyg

I call Bull Hockey...

As a state employee we have access to the net and personal e-mail just like any other employer as long as we don't access materials that run afoul of harassment laws or abuse of office equipment.

In fact on the personal stuff we're required to have our own cell phones for personal conversations and not use state blackberry's ect. to cut down on state costs.

Unless she intentionally stored sensitive work documents on an unknown server or file system to keep them from a freedom of information request then there is no problem with her having a personal e-mail account, even if she used it to correspond with other government or political figures.

Methinks sharing pics of the kiddies or commenting on how tough her campaign has been doesn't really rise to the level of sensitive state materials.

That's why I said, "when it comes to the people's business."

re: #135 vxbush

...the system all too easily provides a back door for getting a replacement password, which in this case went to the wrong person.

Where did you get this detail? I didn't read that in the Gawker story - all they say is that 4Chan "gained access."

re: #89 wright1

I am a lttle surprised this was not foreseen by the McCain camp. But then again, John thought the press "liked" him...

He did think that the press really , really liked him.
He thought that his 'Dear Friends", the Democrats really, really liked him.
They all called him a maverick & their favorite Republican.
Well, things have changed. He now threatens their leg tingling lightworker.
I do hope that McCain gets it now & has a long memory.

re: #67 godfrey

What counts as "state business"? One can't use email to communicate anything off the record? Seems absurd.

Most public records laws that I am familiar with would state that official business correspondence through e-mail, including private e-mail accounts, would be public records, and unless a particular record has been determined to be confidential, then the public would have access to it.

I'm unaware that it is illegal to use a private e-mail account for public business; but the person would need to make sure the "public" e-mails were preserved.

Drudge links to Breitbart article on Obama's 2 minute 'Economy' ad buy...

(Just as Mac/Palin go up, the economy goes down - you almost can't help but question the timing =/)

Seriously though, Mac's going to have to hit back on this one hard. I'm beginning to think he should not blame this all on the Dems - blame BOTH parties where blame is due, and instead focus on his background as a non-partisan pork-and-fraud buster, and engage those intelligent American indies and Reagan Dems who are beginning to see through the shams of bipartisan deception. HIT OBAMA for coming up through the most poisonous political old boys machine, as a pol who never stood up once against his party's waste and scandals (profiting royally from Fannie & Freddie and Rezko; standing up for Detroit's mayor, etc), and who has zero record of actually combating the financial corruption and unregulated immigration costs from BOTH parties that are destroying us. Tout Palin's and his own records of accomplishment in doing that. Challenge Obama in matching their proven records of fighting corruption with his own.

Run on a GOP Grand New Party ticket - it would be far more effective at this point in a dismally sophomoric tit-for-tat on niggling issues race, and would probably wake up the voters on both sides of the aisle, probably as much as the Palin pick.

re: #157 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Ha ha! True, so true!

re: #133 IgofAntioch

Secret Service and FBI should be all over this.

* * *
As if our Feds didn't have a war to fight. Now we have the soviet East German STASI liberals spying on their neighbors...Fifth columnists wearing out our law enforcement people for political reasons....

Traitors.

Pardon me while I go seeth for a while...

re: #177 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Pardon me while I go seeth for a while...

I'll save you a seat on the seeth bench next to me

re: #173 reine.de.tout

I'm unaware that it is illegal to use a private e-mail account for public business; but the person would need to make sure the "public" e-mails were preserved.

I would not take the opinion of the creep who hacked into Palin's email account as to what is legal, ethical or morally correct behavior.

The Left believes these types of acts to be acceptable for their side because they believe Republicans to be pure evil. In their minds, Republicans absolutely need to be defeated at all costs for the good of the United States.

Any similar acts committed by Republicans must be derided and loathed, well, because Republicans are pure evil, and must be defeated at all costs.

Shady acts are acceptable when committed by the side of good (Liberals), while totally contemptible when committed by the side of evil (Conservatives).

re: #178 sattv4u2

I'll save you a seat on the seeth bench next to me

I'll seeth you in just a minute too.

re: #174 runrabbitrun

I like your "grand new party" idea
a ding UP for you dear poster

well said all around

Seriously though, Mac's going to have to hit back on this one hard. I'm beginning to think he should not blame this all on the Dems - blame BOTH parties where blame is due, and instead focus on his background as a non-partisan pork-and-fraud buster

Yep. People are sick of the attacks. I think they want the "maverick" McCain. Not a nasty angry partison.

re: #174 runrabbitrun

Sorry in my last post for not apologizing for the interrupt and going OT....

Perhaps I'm just accustomed to the above-average level of discourse of Lizard comments, but the comments at Gawker really freaked me out.

re: #181 Pyrocles

Shady acts are acceptable when committed by the side of good (Liberals), while totally contemptible when committed by the side of evil (Conservatives).

Don't you mean shadowy acts.....

*Ducks, runs*

A good time to re-post this:

Top Attack Dog In Palin Troopergate Smear Campaign Is Phony Soldier

Hollis "Gunny" French (D)-- is guilty of misrepresenting that he served in the Marine Corps - when in fact his ONLY exposure to the Marine Corp was attending a Marine ROTC PLC - from which he was DISMISSED and granted a "Discharge" as a Private.
--He NEVER attended, much less graduate from either of the USMC Boot Camps.
--He FAILED to pass the ROTC Platoon Leader Course - thus failing to make the grade to become a Marine Officer.
--Hardly service as a Marine, and the folks in Alaska caught up with French's claims....
--Folks in Alaska to this day, still jokingly refer to the jackass poseur as "Gunny French" and he hates the reminder of his lie

What a surprise!

re: #179 Kenneth

I would not take the opinion of the creep who hacked into Palin's email account as to what is legal, ethical or morally correct behavior.

Well, I wasn't. I was just explaining what I knew about public records laws, since I was a public employee for 30+ years, doing HR work that included determining what would be "confidential" and what would be "public" within a record, I thought I could shed a little light.

re: #165 The Other Les

Where? When?

Soviet Union circa 1920.

Wait a minute, didn't one of my useful idiots say that the only difference between Sarah Palin and an Islamic terrorist was lipstick?

So, if Sarah takes off her lipstick, she becomes an Islamic terrorist and if it's proven that someone illegally hacked into her personal email THE ACLU SHOULD BE ALL OVER THIS.....right?

Why is Hillary Clinton scared of Gov. Palin?

re: #185 buzzsawmonkey

Will I seethe you
In September
Or lose you
To a Karl Rove?

OH YUCK! I asked for that!
*smack forehead*

re: #150 jacksontn

That would also be the Saul Alinsky Code of Conduct.

A code that Barry was schooled in as a C ommunity organiser.
He was taught that when cofronted with his lies to ridicule the accuser.

Just checked the Yahoo login/recover password procedure, and in order to reset the password you have to provide the alternate email address you gave when you signed up. It's doubtful that the hackers exploited this -- they would have had to have known Palin's alternate email address as well as the answers to the security questions.

There isn't a single person in the comments at Gawker who seems to see anything wrong with this.

re: #155 reine.de.tout

Yes, of course. That's why I said, "for the moment."

The legality of Gawker's situation is a bit more particular. If they instigated the hacking, or directed it -- or, for heaven's sake, did it -- then they're in big trouble.

What's more likely is that someone approached them with the information after the deed was done, in which case they're likely in the clear, legally. Especially if the email does indeed unearth something that shows some wrongdoing within the government. It's akin to someone sneaking incriminating government papers to a journalist, or phone records or whatever. The journalist can't under any circumstances instigate the activity, but he's not beholden to ignore it, if it shows up on his desk.

It seems like a fine line, I know. I don't make the rulz, though. I just shares 'em.

re: #181 Pyrocles

The Left believes these types of acts to be acceptable for their side because they believe Republicans to be pure evil. In their minds, Republicans absolutely need to be defeated at all costs for the good of the United States.

Any similar acts committed by Republicans must be derided and loathed, well, because Republicans are pure evil, and must be defeated at all costs.

Shady acts are acceptable when committed by the side of good (Liberals), while totally contemptible when committed by the side of evil (Conservatives).

Fucked up isn't it? But switch out Republican/Democrat and Left/Right in your post and you pretty much have the predominant view of Democrats on this site.

So . . .

re: #182 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'll seeth you in just a minute too.

heareth no evil, seeth no evil,

Not a hint of remorse in the comments, either.

Loved this one:

On the one hand, wow. Awesome. On the other hand... this won't do much to dissuade her supporters of the persecution complex they've developed of late, now will it?

Yes, we have a persecution complex. Stupid, we know, because people have been so amazingly fair and ethical in their treatment of Governor Palin. In fact, I'm completely positive someone is working on hacking Obama's personal email as we speak.

God, I hate these bastards.

re: #32 Spider Mensch

"(hired by McCain advisors)"

Link please.

re: #173 reine.de.tout

Yes, exactly.

re: #193 MandyManners

Why is Hillary Clinton scared of Gov. Palin?

sumfin bout dead Moose (Mooses? Meeses) and guns !

re: #106 Charles

Good security starts with your password. The underlying problem is that people use terrible passwords that are easy to guess, either by social engineering or by some kind of automated dictionary-based script.

Passwords for things you want to remain secure should never contain real words, or names, and should always have a mix of letters and numbers and punctuation (if the site allows punctuation).

Check the strength of how you construct passwords.

Don't use an actual password, but similar to how you would construct one.

re: #20 godfrey

I expect the Secret Service is going to be all over this.

Won't that be fun, hackerz?

And when they do, the drum-circle crowd will start crying about what a "police state" we live in.

re: #195 opnion

A code that Barry was schooled in as a C ommunity organiser.
He was taught that when cofronted with his lies to ridicule the accuser.

I can honestly say I *hate* Alinsky.

Vile filth. If he wasn't already dead, I'd wish it on him.

re: #172 opnion

Not to sound like a ditto-head but Rush called this along time ago as a blindspot in McCain's rear view mirror

#173,

While not illegal to use a private e-mail account it does make those e-mail accounts subject to becoming aprt of the official government record (as I understand it) as it is now official communication.

re: #197 Cognito

Yes, of course. That's why I said, "for the moment."

The legality of Gawker's situation is a bit more particular. If they instigated the hacking, or directed it -- or, for heaven's sake, did it -- then they're in big trouble.

What's more likely is that someone approached them with the information after the deed was done, in which case they're likely in the clear, legally. Especially if the email does indeed unearth something that shows some wrongdoing within the government. It's akin to someone sneaking incriminating government papers to a journalist, or phone records or whatever. The journalist can't under any circumstances instigate the activity, but he's not beholden to ignore it, if it shows up on his desk.

It seems like a fine line, I know. I don't make the rulz, though. I just shares 'em.

'tis indeed a fine line, I had a little bit of experience in my life trying to apply "public records".

re: #196 Charles

I know that doesn't surprise you either, Charles.

re: #169 Cognito

That's why I said, "when it comes to the people's business."

In my quick scan of the e-mail they revealed there was no "people's business" in there. Of course that begs the question how do you define "peoples business"?

I imagine that this would be a pretty quick investigationre: #176 alegrias

* * *
As if our Feds didn't have a war to fight. Now we have the soviet East German STASI liberals spying on their neighbors...Fifth columnists wearing out our law enforcement people for political reasons....

Traitors.

re: #162 Kenneth

You mean Marx plagiarized the Koran?

It is the standing rule with all barbarians.

Anything goes when the survival and well being of the barbarian is the end. Any limitation on the power of the barbarian is toxic to them. That is why, regardless of their nominal ideology, they hate us. We won't submit to their will. We won't feed them, clothe them, or house them at our own expense. We will not put on the chains that they demand that we wear. That is why we ultimately have to drive them off or kill them.

re: #199 sparrowlake

heareth no evil, seeth no evil,

Oh, VERY good!
upding time!

re: #143 LotharBot

It's not ethical in either case. But I suspect it was entirely legal in the Senate/judiciary case. And IMO it's a much bigger breach of ethics to actually hack into something to read it than to read something that's been left wide open.

Senator Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont, the committee's ranking Democrat added ''It is not difficult to conclude that this was criminal behavior.''

Shall we see how indignant Sen. Leahy becomes with this one?

re: #190 reine.de.tout

Sorry, I wasn't shooting at you. I'm just really pissed at the creeps at gawker who stole her email.

has anyone hazarded a suggestion that the "hacker" is an employee at Yahoo ?

if it is even real....

yahoo is as lib-whacky as google you know

re: #203 sattv4u2

sumfin bout dead Moose (Mooses? Meeses) and guns !

I thought she was "blindsided"?

re: #211 DaddyG

In my quick scan of the e-mail they revealed there was no "people's business" in there. Of course that begs the question how do you define "peoples business"?

If it pertains to state affairs -- particularly if conducted with another state employee -- she may be in some trouble. I've not seen any sign of that so far.

Gawker is not the problem, just the symptom.

Wacking Gawker would not amount to much in the overall scheme of things.

----

Still--it'd be fun--and from there we could corrupt Kos and the rest of the idiots-use their radical rules against them--they'd respect that, no? :)

Gawker is claiming this story is news worthy! Personal emails, an address list and pictures of the Palin kids is news worthy? There is nothing damning that I see over there. These people are truly deranged.

re: #183 Adrenalyn

I like your "grand new party" idea
a ding UP for you dear poster

well said all around

Well, not every one of my fellow rightys like their ideas, but -

Credit where it is due...

I don't even see any official government business in those screens shots. One email says, "I'll pray for you" and another one says, "That guy is a jerk, I hate him"

re: #62 Tamron

Hey all, register your opinion on a poll at the PBS website:

Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?

Looks like NOW is obviously trying to load it down, against Sarah (surprise?).
.

It looks like it's a "Vote Now, Vote Often" poll as well. I went back multiple times and it consistently came up to the 'vote' page, not the 'results' page.

I was surprised when I read an MSM article a few weeks ago publish her email address. I thought the account would get swamped with garbage. I never thought this would happen.

Pols of all stripes keep separate email accounts because using a government email account for party business is a crime. Remember all the scorn heaped on Gore for making fund raising calls from his office at the White House. The Republicans were calling for Gore's head. This is an unintended consequence of that type of hardball politics.

As a matter of fact I have seen pictures of Palin with two blackberries on her kitchen counter. I am sure one is for party business and one is for government business.

So all the crap on Gawker about hiding evidence is really just garbage. The criminal law requiring her to keep personal business off government email gives her plenty of cover.

re: #216 Kenneth

Sorry, I wasn't shooting at you. I'm just really pissed at the creeps at gawker who stole her email.

It's all good.
I'm pissed with 'em too.

re: #201 J.S.

"(hired by McCain advisors)"

Link please.

meant as a sarc comment...should have / it

re: #217 Adrenalyn

has anyone hazarded a suggestion that the "hacker" is an employee at Yahoo ?

I have been wondering that ever since I read the Gawker post.

re: #181 Pyrocles

Anyone who believes that they are automatically good will believe anything and will do anything,

How does this differ from going through someone's desk and publishing the papers purloined?

I'd think that was illegal, not unethical. If this is illegal, I say find the hacker and prosecute to the fullest ability of the law.

If it is not illegal, well, hummm. That would be interesting.

I would say it is the Yahoo system admins that did this. Random hacking against the yahoo account is low probability. Either it's leaking from a yahoo administrator, someone who employeed themselves at yahoo for this purpose., or if Gov Palin has other password accounts the admins of those accounts would be suspect.

"It's newsworthy and we will not be taking it down!"

What a prick

Disgusting. I can't stand these people... The thing that really makes me angry is - if anyone did this to a Democrat candidate - well, I'm pretty sure we know how they (including the media) would react....

re: #216 Kenneth

Sorry, I wasn't shooting at you. I'm just really pissed at the creeps at gawker who stole her email.

Ah yes, the Cheney defence. ;)

re: #229 The Other Les

Anyone who believes that they are automatically good will believe anything and will do anything,

Hear Hear!

/the capital-L Liberal mantra

re: #221 Sharmuta

Gawker is claiming this story is news worthy! Personal emails, an address list and pictures of the Palin kids is news worthy? There is nothing damning that I see over there. These people are truly deranged.

As Cog pointed out, it may be a problem if State business was done on these accounts. It won't matter the the matter is fruit of the poisoned tree, and I'm sure they'll drag out every thing they can.

re: #208 drool

#173,

While not illegal to use a private e-mail account it does make those e-mail accounts subject to becoming aprt of the official government record (as I understand it) as it is now official communication.

It makes those government business-related e-mails within the account subject to becoming a part of the official gov't record.

Not sure it would apply to the entire account.

re: #221 Sharmuta

I'll tell you what "newsworthy" is... seeing those jerks arrested & charged with invasion of privacy, theft of private property, & tampering with US mail.

re: #215 SuaSponte

Senator Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont, the committee's ranking Democrat added ''It is not difficult to conclude that this was criminal behavior.''

Shall we see how indignant Sen. Leahy becomes with this one?

Don't think Leahy had any basis upon which to call the first situation "criminal". Where exactly was the conviction? Manuel Miranda seems to be doing fine as a free man...

Now that there's an actual, definite crime, I doubt Leahy will say a thing.

Does she not get Secret Service protection?

Does the Secret Service handle this type of protection?

Hacking online email accounts is a federal crime, 5 years is the penalty.

I wonder which Yahoo gave the password to which Obama-nut.

re: #221 Sharmuta

Gawker is claiming this story is news worthy! Personal emails, an address list and pictures of the Palin kids is news worthy? There is nothing damning that I see over there. These people are truly deranged.

It will ultimately backfire, but while that is a saving grace, it is hard to see that value given the cost to Governor Palin and her dignity.

So what! If Bush can place illegal domestic surveillance on us, Gawker has the right to hack her password, dammit!

/moonbat off...(I hate channeling the moonbat demon...)

re: #235 sparrowlake

Ah yes, the Cheney defence. ;)

Hey, I'd rather go quail hunting with Cheney than moose hunting with Palin!

re: #196 Charles

Just checked the Yahoo login/recover password procedure, and in order to reset the password you have to provide the alternate email address you gave when you signed up. It's doubtful that the hackers exploited this -- they would have had to have known Palin's alternate email address as well as the answers to the security questions.

There isn't a single person in the comments at Gawker who seems to see anything wrong with this.

That's what amazed me...nobody even remotely mentioned that this might be a bad thing. Ethics and morals should transcend "my side" versus "your side," but with these people it just doesn't.

re: #242 bill-tb

Hacking online email accounts is a federal crime, 5 years is the penalty.

I wonder which Yahoo gave the password to which Obama-nut.

Thank you! I was wondering what the charge & penalty were.

re: #232 cliffster

"It's newsworthy and we will not be taking it down!"

What a prick

In other words ,,

HEY WORLD ,,, LOOK AT ME ,,, I HAVE NOTHING SIGNIFICANT TO BRING TO THIS FASCINATING ELECTION YEAR ,,, BUT I WANT TO BE RELEVENT

It's a brand new f*cked up world. BTW...didn't read'em.

re: #217 Adrenalyn

has anyone hazarded a suggestion that the "hacker" is an employee at Yahoo ?

if it is even real....

yahoo is as lib-whacky as google you know

Probably a dumb question but - is there any way at all to track any of this and find out who may have done this?

re: #237 jcm

As Cog pointed out, it may be a problem if State business was done on these accounts. It won't matter the the matter is fruit of the poisoned tree, and I'm sure they'll drag out every thing they can.

They would have taken a screenshot of that, don't you think? They took screenshots of personal emails and pictures of the Palin kids. If they were looking for something incriminating- they either didn't find it, or didn't think it was worthy of a screenshot.

A little OT.

My understanding of TRACKBACKS is they are a kind of cyber "hattip"? In other words if I wrote my opinion of this story on my blog, I would enter LGF URL as a Trackback, Charles would get pinged and he would be credited with the story?

Is this close to accurate?

Just noticed that the writer of the Gawker post is Alex Pareene, formerly of Wonkette. From personal experiene I can tell you that he's an a** with absolutely no conscience when it comes to the privacy of others.

re: #246 jill e

I've noticed that the same thing applies with Obama and his Chicago-style "win at all costs" mentality...

re: #196 Charles

There isn't a single person in the comments at Gawker who seems to see anything wrong with this.

Gawker and its sister sites (Defamer, etc.) have a highly restricted registration system. You have to basically send a begging letter to prove you're worthy to comment. My husband got an io9 login only after proving he's an incredibly knowledgeable and funny sci fi geek. So basically, you have a room full of people with identical opinions reaffirming each other's superiority while trying to outdo one another on the snark scale.

re: #196 Charles

Just checked the Yahoo login/recover password procedure, and in order to reset the password you have to provide the alternate email address you gave when you signed up. It's doubtful that the hackers exploited this -- they would have had to have known Palin's alternate email address as well as the answers to the security questions.

There isn't a single person in the comments at Gawker who seems to see anything wrong with this.

I used to hit 4chan now and then. The predominant atitude there is anything on the web is fair game and if they can get into it, its the person's fault for being lax.

Word on the Black Hat street that it was an inside job

re: #246 jill e

That's what amazed me...nobody even remotely mentioned that this might be a bad thing. Ethics and morals should transcend "my side" versus "your side," but with these people it just doesn't.

Morals? Ethics? We know not these strange words which you speak...

I would advise some of those posters to delete the photos of little boys feet they have on their computers or email accounts.

I'm sure the right has hackers in their ranks as well.

re: #242 bill-tb

Hacking online email accounts is a federal crime, 5 years is the penalty.

I wonder which Yahoo gave the password to which Obama-nut.

Great to know that.

And I'm sure this applies even if there are "public" e-mails sent from that account. It would be up to the account owner to ensure the e-mails were properly preserved; and if the owner tried to "hide" those e-mails, then it would be the obligation and responsibility of some investigative body to find out about the wrongdoing of the account owner, NOT "Gawker".

The problem I have with Gawker, so far, is that there seems to be no story, here. If there's government business being conducted on this account, I'm missing it.

So far it only seems to amount to an effort to embarrass Palin with her private correspondence. The very headline itself -- "Sarah Palin's Personal Emails" -- resonates with, "Looky, looky!"

re: #255 doppelganglander

Gawker and its sister sites (Defamer, etc.) have a highly restricted registration system. You have to basically send a begging letter to prove you're worthy to comment. My husband got an io9 login only after proving he's an incredibly knowledgeable and funny sci fi geek. So basically, you have a room full of people with identical opinions reaffirming each other's superiority while trying to outdo one another on the snark scale.

I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members.
Groucho Marx

re: #196 Charles

Just checked the Yahoo login/recover password procedure, and in order to reset the password you have to provide the alternate email address you gave when you signed up. It's doubtful that the hackers exploited this -- they would have had to have known Palin's alternate email address as well as the answers to the security questions.

There isn't a single person in the comments at Gawker who seems to see anything wrong with this.

I actually did leave a comment along those lines, but it has not been "posted" there yet.

re: #146 Honorary Yooper

Second loaf of bread? I do not understand.

Two loaves of bread are required to make the blessing on the Sabbath.

Warrantless surveilance!