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Sarah Palin on H and C

Politics | Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:23:35 pm PDT

Governor Sarah Palin appears tonight on the Hannity & Colmes show...

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1 semper Gumbi  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:24:13pm

Was hoping this thread would be put up. Thanks Charles!

2 Wishing  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:24:16pm

arrgghhh

McCain/Palin '08 YES!

3 Midwestprof  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:24:28pm

Gonna watch, fer sure, fer sure!

4 deathtotheswiss  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:24:48pm

KOS: It was a complete failure, I foresee a vast Democrat victory and Obama as our new President. Hail Barrack!

5 Desert Dog  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:25:12pm

And Tina Fey will be on MSNBC as Sarah Palin - kinda like the "Good Spock" and the Spock with a goatee at the same time.

/

6 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:25:47pm
7 Padre  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:25:50pm

Feminism re-defined.

8 kevinmumaw  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:26:25pm

re: #4 deathtotheswiss

KOS: It was a complete failure, I foresee a vast Democrat victory and Obama as our new President. Hail Barrack!

Do all lefties suffer from bi-polar disorder, or just Kos?

9 jemima  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:27:46pm

Mark Levin said this evening that Sean called him after the interview was over and she's everything we think she is--articulate, smart, etc. Sean thought she was great.

10 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:27:59pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

You're a jewel!

11 Padre  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:28:15pm

re: #7 Padre

Feminism re-defined.

ahem....FEMININITY re-defined

12 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:28:18pm

Why is Sen. Clinton scared of Gov. Palin?

13 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:28:38pm

You're hitting pretty close to dead center.

14 Desert Dog  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:28:43pm

re: #4 deathtotheswiss

KOS: It was IS a complete failure, I foresee a vast Democrat victory defeat and Obama as our newest President LOSER DEMOCRAT FORMER CANDIDATE. Hail Barrack! Hail John F-ing Kerry, Hail Algore, Hail Dukakis (HAIL NO!)

15 mean Gene  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:29:01pm

So cute, so true, #6.

16 callahan23  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:29:48pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

Wow Buzz is a wizard with words!

17 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:29:50pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

*wild applause*

18 davinvalkri  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:30:35pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

Holy christ. This is awesome.

19 Desert Dog  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:30:53pm

re: #13 jcm

Barack could have done that, if there was a war going on when he was young, you know...

20 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:32:22pm

re: #12 MandyManners

Why is Sen. Clinton scared of Gov. Palin?

The fake always fear the genuine.

21 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:32:32pm

re: #10 MandyManners

He just made me laugh hard enough that I needed to use my inhaler.

22 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:32:33pm

re: #11 Padre We are smart to never let another define who we are or what we are capable of. This has been a great lesson in this election, seeing the worms crall out.

23 winston06  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:33:31pm

i m gonna watch it

24 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:33:54pm

I'm up-dinging everyone who compliments Buzzsawmonkey, because I have only one upding of my own to give.

25 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:34:07pm

Wabbit Ear TV...
WAAAHHHHHHH!

26 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:34:21pm

re: #12 MandyManners
I have heard it might be that she did not want The Iran U.N thing to be about Sara and Herself, (no catfight) or eluding to moments by Press, that the Iran thing was very impoortant and should stand by itself not tutn into a circus and moment lost, (best view i've read)

27 code red 21  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:34:29pm

My guess is that Sean will ask her some tough questions but will at least have enough respect for her as a fellow human being to treat her decently unlike Chuckie.

28 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:34:32pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

A Modern Liberal Democrat
--with apologies to Gilbert & Sullivan

I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat
I've spread out 'cross the nation from my native campus habitat
I know our shabby history of policies discriminate
And think we should apologize from now until the infinite

I look upon myself as a citizen international
I think restricting entry of illegals is irrational
I take care always to show elevated moral attitude
And speak with unimpeachable political correctitude

And speak with unimpeachable political correctitude
And speak with unimpeachable political correctitude
And speak with unimpeachable political correcti-rectitude

Though not myself religious I will talk of spirituality
I worship at the shrine of income and gender equality
I support racial set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

He supports racial set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
He is the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

I reject the notion that Al-Qaeda wants to form a Caliphate
We'd rapidly end differences if we would just negotiate
I think we should do more to prevent other nations' genocide
But if we use our military I'll support the other side

I second-guess every decision strategic and tactical
I support our troops in every way, as long as it's not practical
Our army should not engage in perilous foreign adventure
So I oppose on principle each new defense expenditure

So I oppose on principle each new defense expenditure
So I oppose on principle each new defense expenditure
So I oppose on principle each new defense expend-expenditure

I think that women should have choices when they're faced with pregnancy
But there is one choice over others I view preferentially
In short, supporting set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

In short, supporting set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

In fact, when I have shed my nostalgic dreams of revolution
When I know government's the problem more than the solution
When I realize there's no way that we can fund Social Security
With so much of our population having reached maturity

When I have learnt taxation doesn't create private sector jobs
When I stop using tax grants as a way to buy votes from the mob
In short, when I have shorn some of my more blatant hypocrisies
You might actually see me begin to support democracy

You might actually see me begin to support democracy
You might actually see me begin to support democracy
You might actually see me begin to support democra-mocracy

For the economic knowledge which I've clung to from my early teens
Says, "To each who wants it must come from each person who has got the means"
And so, supporting set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

And so, supporting set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat


A million monkeys..on a million typewriters..over a million years...
could easily beat that..
/Not!
brilliant

29 least  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:34:44pm

Will Hannity only throw softballs?
Will Skeletor be channeling the Koslings?
I'll Tivo it -- love the fast-forward and the 30-second jump (avoid a lotta drek that way)

30 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:34:44pm

Warning: don't link a youtube video after 6 pm left-coast time!

31 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:34:59pm

re: #21 Dianna
done.

32 semper Gumbi  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:35:01pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

Damn you're good. I wish I could be so creative!

33 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:35:15pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

A googleplex of updings!

34 Shug  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:35:22pm

I am taping it, so nobody spoil the surprise for me

OK, forget that. Anything good ?

35 Caboose  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:35:26pm

re: #12 MandyManners

Why is Sen. Clinton scared of Gov. Palin?

She's scared of an Alpha female? Palin won't kowtow to her? Palin wouldn't put up with Klintoon's s#it? Palin will suck all of the oxygen out of the room and leave Hildabeast gagging? Two would enter, one would leave and the victor's initials wouldn't be HRC?

Do we really want a coward like HRC leading the country? What would HRC do if she was faced with a real threat?

run away, run away!

36 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:35:32pm

OT:
Livni won the Kadima elections. /Joy!

She's just as clueless as Olmert, just slightly less corrupt.

37 mfarmer1  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:35:46pm

Look at cnn.com right now. Geesh, is Jill Greenberg working for CNN now?

The daily links there are just getting ridiculous and beyond biased against McCain and Palin, but really now.

38 russkilitlover  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:36:06pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

Brilliant!

39 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:36:13pm

re: #36 lawhawk

Jeeze no Bibi! wth

40 kynna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:36:16pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

That's amazing!

41 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:36:38pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

You are unbelievable, man!

/plus we got our electricity back. w00t!

42 Shug  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:36:52pm

oops, It's not even on yet

43 livefreeor die  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:36:54pm

re: #12 MandyManners

Why is Sen. Clinton scared of Gov. Palin?

Because Sarah Palin is likeable.

44 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:37:00pm

re: #12 MandyManners

Because Gov. Palin is all that Hillary is not.

And the fact that Hillary is skipping the pro-Israel rally speaks volumes over Hillary's commitment to Israel.

45 Happy Fun Ball  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:37:18pm

I found this a couple of days ago, and I think it's quite an accurate portrayal of these absolutely insane moonbats:

The Lying King

46 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:37:29pm

i think so many patriots in america will be watching.
and curious people, she will win over.

47 doriangrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:37:36pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

A Modern Liberal Democrat
--with apologies to Gilbert & Sullivan

I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat
I've spread out 'cross the nation from my native campus habitat
I know our shabby history of policies discriminate
And think we should apologize from now until the infinite

I look upon myself as a citizen international
I think restricting entry of illegals is irrational
I take care always to show elevated moral attitude
And speak with unimpeachable political correctitude

And speak with unimpeachable political correctitude
And speak with unimpeachable political correctitude
And speak with unimpeachable political correcti-rectitude

Though not myself religious I will talk of spirituality
I worship at the shrine of income and gender equality
I support racial set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

He supports racial set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
He is the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

I reject the notion that Al-Qaeda wants to form a Caliphate
We'd rapidly end differences if we would just negotiate
I think we should do more to prevent other nations' genocide
But if we use our military I'll support the other side

I second-guess every decision strategic and tactical
I support our troops in every way, as long as it's not practical
Our army should not engage in perilous foreign adventure
So I oppose on principle each new defense expenditure

So I oppose on principle each new defense expenditure
So I oppose on principle each new defense expenditure
So I oppose on principle each new defense expend-expenditure

I think that women should have choices when they're faced with pregnancy
But there is one choice over others I view preferentially
In short, supporting set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

In short, supporting set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

In fact, when I have shed my nostalgic dreams of revolution
When I know government's the problem more than the solution
When I realize there's no way that we can fund Social Security
With so much of our population having reached maturity

When I have learnt taxation doesn't create private sector jobs
When I stop using tax grants as a way to buy votes from the mob
In short, when I have shorn some of my more blatant hypocrisies
You might actually see me begin to support democracy

You might actually see me begin to support democracy
You might actually see me begin to support democracy
You might actually see me begin to support democra-mocracy

For the economic knowledge which I've clung to from my early teens
Says, "To each who wants it must come from each person who has got the means"
And so, supporting set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

And so, supporting set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

Bla bla bla....Ya need to drink a beer, kill a deer and watch a football game before that nonsense infects ya.... ;)

48 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:37:48pm
49 Tigger2005  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:37:53pm

My compliments to buzzsawmonkey.

50 mean Gene  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:37:54pm

#30.....
What's the deal about You Tube and 6pm?

51 LoFlyer  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:38:13pm

re: #13 jcm

You're hitting pretty close to dead center.

Saw this being advertised by You-tube. The Palin family are party animals

/GIGO

52 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:38:18pm

Go Sarah! Turn those polls back where they belong!


Oh, and if any of these hackers are reading, you touch Sarah's email one more time, I'll do to you what Jesse Jackson promised to do to Obama.

53 vxbush  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:38:21pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

Favorited! And Charles, when I clicked the red heart, the green heart didn't show up. It did save it to my favorites, but I have no feedback about it. I'm very sad now.

54 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:38:32pm

re: #12 MandyManners

Why is Sen. Clinton scared of Gov. Palin?

Clinton lived her life planning.
Palin lived her life living.

Living, just plain living like liberty scares the crap out of liberals.

55 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:38:44pm

re: #48 buzzsawmonkey

Thanks, everyone. This one took a little work.

That's the first one of your masterpieces that I green-hearted.

56 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:39:17pm

The song.

Of course, the Modern Liberal Democrat would arrive in a limo and have Babs Streisand on one arm, and George Soros on the other.

57 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:39:25pm

What an agitator Obama has turned out-to be, all His wink , wink, Nice campaigner-ee stuff, while turning the jerks loose on the population.

58 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:39:31pm

re: #39 willowone

This is the Kadima party election, not a general election. Only those members of kadima would vote.

Bibi is a member of Likud.

59 kynna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:40:02pm

re: #44 lawhawk

Because Gov. Palin is all that Hillary is not.

And the fact that Hillary is skipping the pro-Israel rally speaks volumes over Hillary's commitment to Israel.

And there's partisan pressure to disinvite Palin if Obama or Biden don't come.

Nice, fascist democrats.

60 hermeneutics  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:40:04pm

I hope Palin is as tough as she looks to be. It is hard not to be angry with what the Dems and the MSM are doing to her. She must have thought they'd try to hurt her, but I doubt she knew the depths to which they'd sink to savage her hardy spirit and good reputation.

There isn't anything we can do for her, is there?

61 callahan23  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:40:09pm

re: #50 mean Gene

#30.....
What's the deal about You Tube and 6pm?

They say:

YouTube will be undergoing scheduled maintenance, starting around 6:00 pm PDT.
62 sngnsgt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:40:27pm

re: #46 nyc redneck

i think so many patriots in america will be watching.
and curious people, she will win over.

Moonbats are having arugula parties so they can throw it at the TV and not break it.

63 code red 21  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:40:32pm

re: #48 buzzsawmonkey

You deserve many updings...you're very creative.

64 Tigger2005  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:40:33pm

re: #39 willowone

Jeeze no Bibi! wth

They need David Ben Gurion, Golda Meir and Menachem Begin to rise from their graves.

65 livefreeor die  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:40:50pm

re: #60 hermeneutics

I hope Palin is as tough as she looks to be. It is hard not to be angry with what the Dems and the MSM are doing to her. She must have thought they'd try to hurt her, but I doubt she knew the depths to which they'd sink to savage her hardy spirit and good reputation.

There isn't anything we can do for her, is there?


Speaking as a woman, chocolate always helps!

66 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:41:06pm

re: #12 MandyManners

Why is Sen. Clinton scared of Gov. Palin?

I honestly believe that she doesn't want to appear with her for two reasons.
1. Palin will get a warmer welcome than her.
2. Palin is the new face of political women. Hillary will not compare very well with her.

67 Shug  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:41:31pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

A Modern Liberal Democrat
--with apologies to Gilbert & Sullivan

Oh, I think they'd love it

68 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:41:31pm

re: #58 lawhawk whew, I've been so involved in this election ....

Will she defend Israel or is she a lightworker? (yes i'm grumpy)

69 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:41:33pm

re: #45 Happy Fun Ball

I found this a couple of days ago, and I think it's quite an accurate portrayal of these absolutely insane moonbats:

The Lying King

Amazing.

70 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:41:34pm

I hope American Jews start getting the fact that the GOP is the party that gives a shit about Israel.

71 hermeneutics  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:42:01pm

re: #65 livefreeor die

Speaking as a woman, chocolate always helps!

And as another woman, I think anything made with limes helps!

72 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:42:20pm

Somebody needs to step up and fire Campbell Brown's producer..

73 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:42:41pm

re: #64 Tigger2005 they Do!

74 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:42:42pm

re: #66 Typicalwhitey

Hillary will sink back into the armchairs of the Judiciary Committee and preen herself as an Elder Stateswoman as she sashays and alinskys around.

75 doriangrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:42:54pm

re: #70 MandyManners

I hope American Jews start getting the fact that the GOP is the party that gives a shit about Israel.

So do get it, some.... well they hate themselves and want Israel to just disappear....

76 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:43:23pm

re: #44 lawhawk
nice article. thanks

77 Desert Dog  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:43:34pm

re: #60 hermeneutics

I hope Palin is as tough as she looks to be. It is hard not to be angry with what the Dems and the MSM are doing to her. She must have thought they'd try to hurt her, but I doubt she knew the depths to which they'd sink to savage her hardy spirit and good reputation.

There isn't anything we can do for her, is there?

It makes you wonder if McCain and/or Palin figured on this level of vitirol coming from the left? This is so bad, so fast.....that tells me they are either really afraid of her or just cannot stand to see a women with opposite views succeed. (Or, they are hate filled pea-brained losers clinging to a worn out and tired political outlook)

78 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:43:37pm

re: #71 hermeneutics

A pitcher of mimosas.

79 least  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:43:45pm

re: #26 willowone

I have heard it might be that she did not want The Iran U.N thing to be about Sara and Herself, (no catfight) or eluding to moments by Press, that the Iran thing was very impoortant and should stand by itself not tutn into a circus and moment lost, (best view i've read)


But has she said that? Or is she using Sarah's appearance as an excuse -- no telling what sort of moonbat frothing could result from her appearing at a gathering of Zionists Fascists there.

80 tokyobk  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:43:48pm

re: #75 doriangrey

So do get it, some.... well they hate themselves and want Israel to just disappear....

Apparantly in NY they do, according to new polls.

81 skree  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:44:38pm

I'd love for Palin to get back to the mockery of Obama that she displayed at the Republican convention. She hurt him with that.

82 LoFlyer  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:44:44pm

re: #61 callahan23

In a 24 hour operation there is no really good time to pull maintenance on hardware or software. Most of the time you are affecting only a small part of the "system" anyway. Why wait till three in the morning? We aren't paid for it anyway. 6 PM is when I pull maintenance unless otherwise directed.

83 livefreeor die  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:45:13pm

re: #70 MandyManners

I hope American Jews start getting the fact that the GOP is the party that gives a shit about Israel.

That's what I don't get. When friends of mine who are Jewish and liberal start going on about how awful Bush is and I ask them about what they think about Obama's "support" of Israel, they either change the subject or
act like I didn't ask the question.

Every. time.

84 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:45:19pm

re: #79 least
nah, i'm only trying not to be catty right now, I'm actually livid that in these very trying times she can't do what's right .

i was trying to put best face on what my sister said to me. and hoping she was right.

85 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:45:30pm

re: #44 lawhawk

Because Gov. Palin is all that Hillary is not.

And the fact that Hillary is skipping the pro-Israel rally speaks volumes over Hillary's commitment to Israel.

That kiss speakes a million words.

86 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:45:34pm

re: #45 Happy Fun Ball

That is absolutely first-rate.

87 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:45:58pm

re: #64 Tigger2005

They need David Ben Gurion, Golda Meir and Menachem Begin to rise from their graves.

Not Moshe Dayan?

88 Desert Dog  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:46:15pm

re: #45 Happy Fun Ball

I found this a couple of days ago, and I think it's quite an accurate portrayal of these absolutely insane moonbats:

The Lying King

Das ist sehr gut!

89 jemima  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:46:27pm

Hugh Hewitt just said AP was contacted re: Sarah Palin's hacked email account and they refused to cooperate.

90 Tigger2005  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:46:30pm

re: #70 MandyManners

I hope American Jews start getting the fact that the GOP is the party that gives a shit about Israel.

If they didn't get it after Obama told them he was for an undivided Jerusalem and less than 24 hours later said he wasn't, they're not going to get it.

91 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:46:37pm

re: #84 willowone (sister was a hard core Hillary supporter ) for Palin/McCain now.

92 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:46:49pm

re: #60 hermeneutics

I hope Palin is as tough as she looks to be. It is hard not to be angry with what the Dems and the MSM are doing to her. She must have thought they'd try to hurt her, but I doubt she knew the depths to which they'd sink to savage her hardy spirit and good reputation.

There isn't anything we can do for her, is there?

I think Palin's "toughness" came through in that Gibson interview, when she was able to maintain her composure while being being talked down to, asked questions that were phrased to try to elicit a "gotcha" moment, and being misquoted.

93 livefreeor die  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:46:53pm

re: #87 OldLineTexan

Not Moshe Dayan?

He scared the c--p out of me when I was a kid and saw him on the news.

94 sngnsgt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:47:12pm

I hope if Colmes get a word with Palin she tears him a new a-hole besides the one under his nose.

95 livefreeor die  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:47:34pm

re: #94 sngnsgt

I hope if Colmes get a word with Palin she tears him a new a-hole besides the one under his nose.

That would be worth ten points in the polls.

96 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:47:50pm

re: #89 jemima

Hugh Hewitt just said AP was contacted re: Sarah Palin's hacked email account and they refused to cooperate.

Oh? Really? Why were they contacted and what is it they are refusing to cooperate with?

97 Tigger2005  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:47:55pm

re: #77 Desert Dog

It makes you wonder if McCain and/or Palin figured on this level of vitirol coming from the left? This is so bad, so fast.....that tells me they are either really afraid of her or just cannot stand to see a women with opposite views succeed. (Or, they are hate filled pea-brained losers clinging to a worn out and tired political outlook)

Perhaps both?

98 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:48:04pm

Is H&C streamed?

99 Desert Dog  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:48:26pm

re: #89 jemima

Hugh Hewitt just said AP was contacted re: Sarah Palin's hacked email account and they refused to cooperate.

I heard that today on HH. I wish we had some clever and ethics-challenged right wing hackers of our own....think Obama's email would be interesting?

I think these attacks will do more harm than good from their side. As long as Palin stands tough, she will make them all look like little weasels trying to take down someone much better than they are.

100 least  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:48:39pm

re: #84 willowone

gotcha -- got a sister (and bro-in-law) like that

101 Tigger2005  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:48:50pm

re: #93 livefreeor die

He scared the c--p out of me when I was a kid and saw him on the news.

I always thought he was cool. The patch, the scar.

I bet he scared the piss out of Arabs.

102 kawfytawk  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:49:25pm

OT

Rumor has it that the "hacker" of Palin's email is a Rubico10 (according to hotair) could it be a 20 y/o out of Memphis?(canadianguy found a website here)

or this bad bad singer here?

103 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:49:28pm

re: #93 livefreeor die

He scared the c--p out of me when I was a kid and saw him on the news.

Did he? I thought he was really mysterious and just tough (in a good way) looking

104 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:50:09pm

re: #93 livefreeor die

He scared the c--p out of me when I was a kid and saw him on the news.

I used to read about him, after my uncle expressed some admiration for his military skills. Very interesting character.

105 sngnsgt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:50:14pm

re: #95 livefreeor die

That would be worth ten points in the polls.

I think it's w/Hannity only, Bill O' is showing a clip now.

106 jemima  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:50:30pm

AP stating they did not comply with Secret Service request re: Palin's email acct.
[Link: ap.google.com...]

107 mean Gene  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:51:00pm

Did Sean seat her and himself exactly like she and Charlie G. were on purpose?

108 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:51:49pm

re: #85 MandyManners

That kiss speakes a million words.

Hiya Mandy..hope you and yours are well
you know what i thnk it is? Here is Hillary that until a few short months ago thought she was the women's champion..18 million cracks..All that..and got beat by an unknown..
Then Sarah comes to town and she knows that everyone will be there for Sarah with the lipstick..and she KNOWS she is the 4th act of a two act play..It's over for her..The Senate is her only hope.

109 LoFlyer  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:51:58pm

re: #88 Desert Dog

Das ist sehr gut!

Book marked and placed in the politics file. This is the best I have seen in ages. Too bad McCain can't publish it...

110 mean Gene  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:52:01pm

And who is this feminist who doesn't like Sarah's hair?
Her sexy librarian look is excellent!

111 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:52:14pm

re: #106 jemima

AP stating they did not comply with Secret Service request re: Palin's email acct.
[Link: ap.google.com...]

Thanks

112 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:53:26pm

re: #110 mean Gene She's lovely AND smart

113 Alouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:53:57pm

re: #68 willowone

whew, I've been so involved in this election ....

Will she defend Israel or is she a lightworker? (yes i'm grumpy)

She is Olmert with blonde hair.

114 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:54:53pm

re: #113 Alouette
o G-d another one, why do i feel so gloomy!

115 skree  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:55:25pm

I think Sarah is beautiful and doesn't need to change a thing about her appearance. She as a good sense of style. Much better than those NOW hags.

116 ErislDysnomia  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:55:53pm

Palin’s E-Mail Account Hacked, Published on Web Site

In the latest of a series of invasions into Sarah Palin’s personal life, hackers have broken into the Republican vice presidential candidate’s private e-mail account, and a widely read Web site has published screen grabs from it.

My observations:

1. Likely inside job. How do you "hack" Yahoo email or other commercial email?

2. Federal prison awaits some fine folks.

3. Yahoo is likely in deep doo doo also.

4. If this is tied to the ObamaTanic crew, he will sink faster than Kate Winslet.

117 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:56:20pm

re: #115 skree

I think Sarah is beautiful and doesn't need to change a thing about her appearance. She as a good sense of style. Much better than those NOW hags.


Or the code pink halloween ladies.

118 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:56:37pm

re: #115 skree
Now should be embarrassedi know a few women that sent them Emails and cancelled their memberships.

119 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:56:39pm

re: #102 kawfytawk

OT

Rumor has it that the "hacker" of Palin's email is a Rubico10 (according to hotair) could it be a 20 y/o out of Memphis?(canadianguy found a website here)

or this bad bad singer here?

Check out that last ones Youtube home page and consider the links. hmmmmmmmm?

120 Alouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:57:23pm

Hacker who broke into Sarah Palin's Yahoo account tells all:

...Earlier it was just some prank to me, I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be, just like all of you anon out there that you think there was some missed opportunity of glory, well there WAS NOTHING, I read everything, every little blackberry confirmation… all the pictures, and there was nothing, and it finally set in, THIS internet was serious business, yes I was behind a proxy, only one, if this shit ever got to the FBI I was fucked, I panicked, i still wanted the stuff out there but I didn’t know how to rapidshit all that stuff, so I posted the pass on /b/, and then promptly deleted everything, and unplugged my internet and just sat there in a comatose state

What a stupid little fucker, sitting in his Mom's basement with wet pants, waiting for the FBI and the Secret Service to break the door down and put their boots up his ass. You are so pwn3d you shitless wanker.

121 kawfytawk  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:57:51pm

re: #116 ErislDysnomia

the story behind the Palin email hacking

122 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:58:27pm

TV is in the other room and so I have to leave to watch the interview.
Gotta tell you I'm going to miss the commenting here while I watch!
And there is no way I'll catch up when I get back.
(Heavy Sigh).
Guess I'll have to rearrange the furniture in the near future.

123 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:58:32pm

A few words. . .watch for the HORRIBLE CampObama Brown's interview with the Hillary supporter who just endorsed McCain. . .

Camobama was openly laughing and mocking her, insinuated she was a racist, and dismissed her as a hack. . .still not on Youtube yet. . .

Stay classy CNN!

124 livefreeor die  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:59:10pm

re: #116 ErislDysnomia

Palin’s E-Mail Account Hacked, Published on Web Site

In the latest of a series of invasions into Sarah Palin’s personal life, hackers have broken into the Republican vice presidential candidate’s private e-mail account, and a widely read Web site has published screen grabs from it.

My observations:

1. Likely inside job. How do you "hack" Yahoo email or other commercial email?

2. Federal prison awaits some fine folks.

3. Yahoo is likely in deep doo doo also.

4. If this is tied to the ObamaTanic crew, he will sink faster than Kate Winslet.

The hubby and I were wondering-we know the guys who originally published the e-mails are looking at jail time. If any news agencies post the e-mails or connections to the site that originally published them, can their people face jail time too?

"And, lo, overnight the MSM disappeared."

125 callahan23  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:59:15pm

re: #115 skree

I think Sarah is beautiful and doesn't need to change a thing about her appearance. She as a good sense of style. Much better than those NOW hags.


re: #117 reine.de.tout

Or the code pink halloween ladies.

Didn't 'mama winger' yesterday have such an extremely "nice" example of a code pink gal.

126 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:59:30pm

re: #122 reine.de.tout

TV is in the other room and so I have to leave to watch the interview.
Gotta tell you I'm going to miss the commenting here while I watch!
And there is no way I'll catch up when I get back.
(Heavy Sigh).
Guess I'll have to rearrange the furniture in the near future.

You need to get that Dell fixed and get a wireless router. Then you can OD on both like I am.

127 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:59:42pm

re: #120 Alouette

....and then promptly deleted everything, and unplugged my internet....

Thinks he's so smart, yet so dumb.

128 Sparkizzy  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 5:59:55pm

A caller on Bob Grant's show said that it could be that Her Thighness didn't go to keep her future political aspirations one attack safer. Makes sense.

129 ErislDysnomia  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:00:20pm

AP story:

It wasn't immediately clear how hackers broke into Palin's Yahoo! account, but it would have been possible to trick the service into revealing her password knowing personal details about Palin that include her birthdate and ZIP code.

Right.....someone's gonna guess her "secret question" answer, or someonw at Yahoo's gonna release the password to some caller claiming to be "Sarah Palin of Alaska" ... like that name is just some unknown lady.

A hacker also might have sent a forged e-mail to her account tricking her into revealing her own password.

Oh, yeah, sure, right, really. And the Dan RatherGate documents are genuine because they haven't been proven not to be.

130 livefreeor die  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:00:32pm

re: #123 DisturbedEma

A few words. . .watch for the HORRIBLE CampObama Brown's interview with the Hillary supporter who just endorsed McCain. . .

Camobama was openly laughing and mocking her, insinuated she was a racist, and dismissed her as a hack. . .still not on Youtube yet. . .

Stay classy CNN!

Way to woo the PUMA vote, too.

131 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:00:33pm

re: #123 DisturbedEma

A few words. . .watch for the HORRIBLE CampObama Brown's interview with the Hillary supporter who just endorsed McCain. . .

Camobama was openly laughing and mocking her, insinuated she was a racist, and dismissed her as a hack. . .still not on Youtube yet. . .

Stay classy CNN!

unfrigginbelieveable!
She is starting to make keith o look sane..
/well not really..nobody can do that

132 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:00:44pm

SARAH'S IN DA HOUSE!

133 kawfytawk  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:00:47pm

re: #119 lifeofthemind

quite a freak eh?

134 katemaclaren  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:00:52pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

I am SO impressed with that G&S parody. [Link: wwwwow!...]

135 right_in_canada  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:00:53pm

re: #110 mean Gene

Heh. Good way to describe her . I agree . She is nice looking alright.

As for any interview with the "Messiah" , his next interviewer may as well pick him up in his arms and cradle him like a newborn , and make happy, soothing "cooing" sounds and funny faces . Any questions other than "What is it like being You oh great one?" Period ! ;-)

136 Happy Fun Ball  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:01:03pm

Aaaaand it's on...

137 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:01:09pm

Lady de Rotheschild ?

138 Killian Bundy  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:01:20pm

This'll be a puff piece.

/not sure what playing softball will accomplish

139 Shug  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:01:24pm

re: #123 DisturbedEma

A few words. . .watch for the HORRIBLE CampObama Brown's interview with the Hillary supporter who just endorsed McCain. . .

Camobama was openly laughing and mocking her, insinuated she was a racist, and dismissed her as a hack. . .still not on Youtube yet. . .

Stay classy CNN!


anybody ask Campbell who's watching her infant twins tonight ?

140 VMA211Dan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:02:01pm

Sarah on now..FOX

141 Alouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:02:04pm

re: #101 Tigger2005

I always thought he was cool. The patch, the scar.

I bet he scared the piss out of Arabs.

He gave the Temple Mount back to the Arabs, after they were fully expecting the IDF to blow the Dome of the Rock and Al-Aqsa to smithereens.

He should never be forgiven for that. G-D rewarded him with two gay moonbats for kids.

142 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:02:07pm

Goooo Palin!

143 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:02:15pm

On now - Central time

144 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:02:30pm

re: #135 right_in_canada

Heh. Good way to describe her . I agree . She is nice looking alright.

As for any interview with the "Messiah" , his next interviewer may as well pick him up in his arms and cradle him like a newborn , and make happy, soothing "cooing" sounds and funny faces . Any questions other than "What is it like being You oh great one?" Period ! ;-)

Would suckling him get extra life points? Cambell Brown seems willing, and probably able. . .given the propensity of The One to change water. . .oh, wait. . .nevermind:)

145 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:02:44pm
146 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:02:45pm

re: #132 MandyManners

SARAH'S IN DA HOUSE!

Let me do the honors.

SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH

147 ErislDysnomia  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:02:47pm

re: #124 livefreeor die

The hubby and I were wondering-we know the guys who originally published the e-mails are looking at jail time. If any news agencies post the e-mails or connections to the site that originally published them, can their people face jail time too?

I believe it's similar to releasing or repeating information heard illegally, such as by monitoring the cell phone frequencies.

148 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:02:50pm

re: #137 willowone

Lady de Rotheschild ?


Yes

149 katemaclaren  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:02:57pm

re: #124 livefreeor die

I REALLY want Wonkette to go to jail and not to mention the cretins at Gawker.

150 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:03:32pm

re: #59 kynna

Thanks. Updated and hat tipped!

151 rawmuse  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:03:36pm

Gah. I just watch NBC nightly news. They are motivated to smear Palin with the smallest thing they can find. Meanwhile, Obama has to disown everyone and everything he ever did and NBC will report of none of it.

I am convinced that the Democrats wish to destroy the USA, and the way events are unfolding they may yet succeed, even if McCain wins.

152 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:04:01pm

re: #148 DisturbedEma
I hope she brings a following and some Power!

153 arethusa  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:04:32pm

They showed a McCain townhall meeting live on Fox earlier, with Palin answering questions. She did fine, though her answers weren't as detailed as McCain's.

154 JeremyR  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:04:47pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

A Modern Liberal Democrat
--with apologies to Gilbert & Sullivan

I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat
I've spread out 'cross the nation from my native campus habitat
I know our shabby history of policies discriminate
And think we should apologize from now until the infinite

I look upon myself as a citizen international
I think restricting entry of illegals is irrational
I take care always to show elevated moral attitude
And speak with unimpeachable political correctitude

And speak with unimpeachable political correctitude
And speak with unimpeachable political correctitude
And speak with unimpeachable political correcti-rectitude

Though not myself religious I will talk of spirituality
I worship at the shrine of income and gender equality
I support racial set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

He supports racial set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
He is the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

I reject the notion that Al-Qaeda wants to form a Caliphate
We'd rapidly end differences if we would just negotiate
I think we should do more to prevent other nations' genocide
But if we use our military I'll support the other side

I second-guess every decision strategic and tactical
I support our troops in every way, as long as it's not practical
Our army should not engage in perilous foreign adventure
So I oppose on principle each new defense expenditure

So I oppose on principle each new defense expenditure
So I oppose on principle each new defense expenditure
So I oppose on principle each new defense expend-expenditure

I think that women should have choices when they're faced with pregnancy
But there is one choice over others I view preferentially
In short, supporting set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

In short, supporting set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

In fact, when I have shed my nostalgic dreams of revolution
When I know government's the problem more than the solution
When I realize there's no way that we can fund Social Security
With so much of our population having reached maturity

When I have learnt taxation doesn't create private sector jobs
When I stop using tax grants as a way to buy votes from the mob
In short, when I have shorn some of my more blatant hypocrisies
You might actually see me begin to support democracy

You might actually see me begin to support democracy
You might actually see me begin to support democracy
You might actually see me begin to support democra-mocracy

For the economic knowledge which I've clung to from my early teens
Says, "To each who wants it must come from each person who has got the means"
And so, supporting set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

And so, supporting set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

Comments like this need the + button on the bottom.

155 mean Gene  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:04:49pm

Ooooo, good one.
She attacked 0bama for mere rhetorics.
Word, it is just words.
And the strength of the fundamentals of our economy, our workforce and spirit ARE strong!

156 ErislDysnomia  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:05:00pm

It's time for some Internet Blogger investigative journalism to tell us what the MSM will never tell us about WHO HACKED SARAH PALIN'S EMAIL.

Correction:

WHAT CRAZED LEFTIST YAHOO INSIDER GAVE AWAY HER PASSWORD.

157 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:05:23pm

re: #139 Shug

anybody ask Campbell who's watching her infant twins tonight ?

Oh, no. . .see, Obama was. Oh, wait.

At one point in the interview she states "the only reason why you are here is because this is news, you switching your vote" and then after asking questions, Brown would interrupt her, and THEN accuse her of NOT answering THE question. . .

The look on Lady's face as Campbell dismissed her spoke volumes SARAH SARAH SARAH SARAH. . . .

158 Killian Bundy  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:05:30pm

This isn't an interview.

/it's a McCain/Pailin campaign commercial, not that I have a particular problem with that

159 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:05:52pm

Ooh, she's showing some leg. She's got my vote

/knuckle-dragger....

160 Alouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:05:59pm

re: #156 ErislDysnomia

It's time for some Internet Blogger investigative journalism to tell us what the MSM will never tell us about WHO HACKED SARAH PALIN'S EMAIL.

Correction:

WHAT CRAZED LEFTIST YAHOO INSIDER GAVE AWAY HER PASSWORD.

The stupid little shit "rubico" explains exactly how he did it, post #120.

161 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:06:12pm

Corruption on Wall Street is to blame!

162 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:06:21pm

re: #120 Alouette

Expect subpoenas against Gawker and everyone up and down the line (Yahoo, ISP, etc.) to get to who posted originally and to catch the bastard who broke the law.

Of course, watch the hysterical left complain that law enforcement will somehow be infringing on the hacker's rights all while completely ignoring that the hacker was completely and totally breaking the law (and he knew he was breaking it - so much for an insanity defense because he knew the difference between right and wrong).

163 right_in_canada  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:06:44pm

re: #144 DisturbedEma

He can turn water to wine, but what can you do wit' mother's milk huh ?

;-)

164 mean Gene  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:07:00pm

OPM.
Other People's Money.
0bama's addiction.

165 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:07:33pm

re: #163 right_in_canada

He can turn water to wine, but what can you do wit' mother's milk huh ?

;-)


He can turn fishes into cookies. . .

166 Killian Bundy  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:08:05pm

re: #161 MandyManners

Corruption on Wall Street is to blame!

No it's not.

/too many highly leveraged bad investments

167 SagamoreGal  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:08:13pm

When I grow up, I want to be just like Sarah!

168 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:08:29pm

I am going to see them in Greeen Bay tomorrow- skipping work at the lestist elitist hole. . .I will tell them I have female issues. . .:)

169 right_in_canada  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:09:05pm

re: #165 DisturbedEma

Don't change my Goldfish snack crackers pleaazzee :-D

"The snack that smiles back, Gold fish" ;-)

170 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:09:06pm

Actually, it's great that the Dems continue to attack Palin. They've made her teflon and bullet proof in a way she couldn't have accomplished on her own.

As they waste their time and energy on her, McCain gets to be the only one running for President. They're exposing themselves as tactical and strategic idiots unworthy to govern.

171 Sparkizzy  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:09:22pm

re: #164 mean Gene

OPM.
Other People's Money.
0bama's addiction.

Nice.

172 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:09:29pm

re: #169 right_in_canada

Don't change my Goldfish snack crackers pleaazzee :-D

"The snack that smiles back, Gold fish" ;-)


Until you bite the head off. . .:)

173 mean Gene  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:09:34pm

All Alan cares about when he's got her ear is how does she feel about an impersonator on SNL.

174 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:09:38pm

re: #163 right_in_canada

He can turn water to wine, but what can you do wit' mother's milk huh ?

;-)

Well, there was supposedly this dairy in France that made cheese of it, but that may have been a hoax.

175 zombie  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:10:14pm

Paging buzzsawmonkey! Paging buzzsawmonkey!

I had a "D'oh!" moment earlier today. I suddenly remembered the PERFECT song to encapsulate the entire Sarah Palin phenomenon. All it needs is new lyrics! And you're just the man for the job.

The song in question used to be an American pop standard in the big band era, bad sadly most people under 70 probably don't remember it, unless they're students of musical history like me. Luckily, YouTube to the rescue !

Big Noise From Winnetka (rather tame version by Bob Crosby)

(As an aside: It's also famous for being the song with the greatest drum solo of all time.)

What I want you to do, of course, is rework the lyrics to be:

Big Noise From Wasilla

Here are the original lyrics to work with:

This is the story of a young girl who was the Einstein of the dance.
They called her Big Noise from Winnetka, against her no one stood a chance.
Big Noise blew in from Winnetka, stole each fellow's heart and then,
Big Noise blew in from Winnetka, Big Noise blew right out again.

Boys were sighing, their girlfriends crying, hearts were pounding when;
The Big Noise dances, hence romances, it's just astounding when;
Big Noise blew in from Winnetka, Big Noise blew right out again.

Stop! Look! Listen! Listen to the Big Noise.
Stop! Look! Listen! Listen to the Big Noise.

I am the one they call the Big Noise. I got to dance my way to fame.
I just blew in from Winnetka, that town will never be the same.
Now I had my fun, and yet there's just one who's got me from the start.
I'd love to conga a little bit longer but it keeps us apart.
Exit Big Noise from Winnetka, enter Big Noise in his heart.
(...etc.)

176 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:10:29pm

re: #133 kawfytawk

quite a freak eh?

Eventually he will get acclimated to prison, even learn to like it.

177 skree  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:10:37pm

She does have a good point about lobbyist and the culture of corruption. If politicians didn't accept the money then some bad legislation might not get passed.

178 Sparkizzy  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:10:41pm

re: #173 mean Gene

All Alan cares about when he's got her ear is how does she feel about an impersonator on SNL.

He needs to go snort something.

179 skree  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:11:14pm

re: #173 mean Gene

All Alan cares about when he's got her ear is how does she feel about an impersonator on SNL.

That's because he's a liberal who thinks much deeper thoughts than you or I.

180 Killian Bundy  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:11:17pm

re: #173 mean Gene

All Alan cares about when he's got her ear is how does she feel about an impersonator on SNL.

/trust me, Skeletor doesn't get a chance to talk to her

181 zombie  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:11:52pm

Ooops -- here's the link to the Big Noise from Winnetka lyrics, which I forgot.

182 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:11:58pm

I'm feeling bummed. 1 week ago, McCain had all the momentum and blew it.

* praised Barack's service as community organizer, thus undercutting his own convention

* didn't respond to negative attacks by Barack

* "fundamentals with economy" gaffe on Monday
* AIG bailout flip-flop on Tuesday

Am I missing anything? Democrats all over are pretty gleeful today over the latest polls.

183 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:12:08pm

re: #166 Killian Bundy

No it's not.

/too many highly leveraged bad investments

I was quoting Gov. Palin.

184 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:12:10pm

re: #171 Sparkizzy

Nice.


Nixon said that about Kennedy- well sort of, as he watch JFK storm around, he stated quite firmly. . .well, it's not Jack's money he will be spending. . .

Source- Chris Matthew's book, written before the tingling feeling spread to his brain. . .

another quote- from Matthews "the American voter seems to prefer leaders who sometimes speak as if English language like it is their second language over people who speak to them like it is THEIR second language" he was talking about Bush v Gore

185 VMA211Dan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:12:24pm

re: #158 Killian Bundy

This isn't an interview.

/it's a McCain/Pailin campaign commercial, not that I have a particular problem with that


The difference is that Sean is allowing her to speak. ABC cut her interview up until it looked like a little league pizza.

186 ErislDysnomia  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:12:26pm

re: #121 kawfytawk

the story behind the Palin email hacking

I found out later though more research that they met at high school, so I did variations of that, high, high school, eventually hit on “Wasilla high” I promptly changed the password to popcorn and took a cold shower…

Sorry, this could be a cover story.

Was that really her "secret question" and secret question answer? This needs confirmation.

187 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:12:26pm
188 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:12:34pm

re: #180 Killian Bundy

/trust me, Skeletor doesn't get a chance to talk to her

Yep, he does as he's told for that paycheck, just like everybody else.

I hold no grudge against him, he is a television character. As are 99% of the talking heads.

189 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:12:37pm

re: #166 Killian Bundy

No it's not.

/too many highly leveraged bad investments

Too many easy LOANS!

190 LoFlyer  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:12:42pm

So now that the MSM, Obama's campaign team, the DU and Kos can't come up with any substantial evidence of ethics violations by Palin, now they are resorting to hacking, a criminal act. Of course the AP is portraying Palin as the criminal for using a public email account for government business. According to the AP, the real criminal did Europe and the free world a service by revealing the transparency of Palin's government service. The AP and the media will refuse to admit that anyone with half a brain in government service understands that our emails are "open season", and available for access under the "open records act". I never say anything I would not like published in the AJC on my county email. The fact that Palin used public email speaks volumes about her ethics and transparency of government.

/Mad magazine's Alfred E. Neumann; "What me worry?"
MSM; "What, me investigate?"
The AP are true dicks.

191 PAgirlinNC  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:13:25pm

Loved that little snear that Colmes gave as he was introducing the next segment of the interview... ass jacker.

192 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:13:26pm

re: #160 Alouette

The stupid little shit "rubico" explains exactly how he did it, post #120.

I bet when the black SUV pulls into his driveway, he'll shit himself big time.

193 soccerdad  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:13:56pm

Livni won the election. As an ignorant 'merican i ask with all sincerity: what does that do for the Israelis?

194 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:13:57pm

Haven't seen the Palin appearance, was there a link?

The McCain camp has to start naming names and hammering on the links to the Democrats in Congress on the Mortgage meltdown or Mac is sunk. It has stalled the momentum and drawn them back to where they were a week ago, essentially dead even.

195 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:14:02pm

re: #186 ErislDysnomia

Sorry, this could be a cover story.

Was that really her "secret question" and secret question answer? This needs confirmation.

It's on the front page.

196 mfarmer1  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:14:47pm

re: #156 ErislDysnomia

It's time for some Internet Blogger investigative journalism to tell us what the MSM will never tell us about WHO HACKED SARAH PALIN'S EMAIL.

Correction:

WHAT CRAZED LEFTIST YAHOO INSIDER GAVE AWAY HER PASSWORD.

I would hope Yahoo wouldn't even have that info. I own a company that handles health records and we don't even know the passwords of our providers, patients, or pharmacy users for that matter. We don't want to know this info.

Palin's email hack was probably "legit", a password guess, etc.

197 Killian Bundy  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:14:54pm

re: #189 experiencedtraveller

Too many easy LOANS!

/and very poor to non-existent risk management practices

198 zombie  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:15:00pm

Here is the CLASSIC verion of Winnetka:

Bob Haggart & Ray Bauduc - Big Noise From Winnetka

So glad I found that!

All you people who think drums solos were invented in the '60s -- watch, listen and learn from the master!

199 zombie  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:16:18pm

re: #187 buzzsawmonkey

I've got an instrumental of that one, but have never 'til now seen the lyrics.

It'll have to wait until tomorrow; the parody up at #6 was more time-consuming than most. But it's a good foundation.

See comment #198 for the famous instrumental version.

Oh, and of course 2.4 quadrillion updings for the Gilbert and Sullivan parody. An eternal classic!

200 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:16:26pm

re: #193 soccerdad

Livni won the election. As an ignorant 'merican i ask with all sincerity: what does that do for the Israelis?

Cool. She's a Likudnik right?

201 kawfytawk  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:16:34pm

re: #186 ErislDysnomia

it could be something just that simple

202 skree  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:16:44pm

94 times.... WOW

203 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:16:45pm

re: #161 MandyManners

Corruption on Wall Street is to blame!

It started with Congress pushing lenders into more marginal loans. Congress signaled they weren't going to look to closely at the practices. McCain authored a bill in '05 to rein it all in. He got shut down.

If you want to look at the root cause. Look under the big white dome on Capitol Hill.

204 Celtic Templar  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:16:49pm

re: #156 ErislDysnomia

It's time for some Internet Blogger investigative journalism to tell us what the MSM will never tell us about WHO HACKED SARAH PALIN'S EMAIL.

Correction:

WHAT CRAZED LEFTIST YAHOO INSIDER GAVE AWAY HER PASSWORD.

It didn't go down that way ... the hacker used Yahoo's challenge response questions and reset her password to something he put in himself.

205 Charles  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:17:22pm

This interview is a big nothing.

206 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:17:29pm

She just said "Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain". LOL!

207 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:17:32pm
208 Sparkizzy  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:17:35pm

re: #200 EIDE_Interface

Cool. She's a Likudnik right?

No?

209 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:17:43pm

re: #203 jcm

It started with Congress pushing lenders into more marginal loans. Congress signaled they weren't going to look to closely at the practices. McCain authored a bill in '05 to rein it all in. He got shut down.

If you want to look at the root cause. Look under the big white dome on Capitol Hill.

Huh, Bush himself was touting the need to give unqualified minorities house loans. He's the panderer-in-chief.

210 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:17:43pm

re: #196 mfarmer1

I would hope Yahoo wouldn't even have that info. I own a company that handles health records and we don't even know the passwords of our providers, patients, or pharmacy users for that matter. We don't want to know this info.

Palin's email hack was probably "legit", a password guess, etc.

He detailed how he researched Palin's history, and other stuff. He used educated guess work.

211 right_in_canada  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:17:48pm

So now that the MSM, Obama's campaign team.

You say it like they are two different groups. :-)

212 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:18:03pm

re: #208 Sparkizzy

No?

She used to be before Kadima.

213 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:18:04pm

re: #203 jcm

Again, I was quoting Gov. Palin.

214 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:18:18pm

re: #205 Charles

This interview is a big nothing.

Charles, no need to be so negative.

215 Tigger2005  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:18:27pm

re: #193 soccerdad

Livni won the election. As an ignorant 'merican i ask with all sincerity: what does that do for the Israelis?

Nuthin.

216 katemaclaren  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:18:33pm

re: #145 buzzsawmonkey

I didn't actually MEAN to put a link in there--I was horrified when I saw the blue letters of death--not having a clue where it would lead....thank GOD it didn't work!

217 Sparkizzy  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:18:34pm

re: #205 Charles

This interview is a big nothing.

Expected.

218 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:18:55pm

re: #209 EIDE_Interface

Huh, Bush himself was touting the need to give unqualified minorities house loans. He's the panderer-in-chief.

True, but the executive branch can only do so much. Congress had the regulatory power, the executive enforces it.

219 Shug  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:19:01pm

re: #214 EIDE_Interface

Charles, no need to be so negative.

He should have said it's small something ?

220 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:19:11pm

OF COURSE she is scary - She is a REAL WOMAN Not a - "PROFESSIONAL WOMAN" - She does stuff and get's stuff done, No Complaints, No Constraints. Reminds me of my late mother.

-S-

221 ErislDysnomia  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:19:49pm

re: #196 mfarmer1

I would hope Yahoo wouldn't even have that info. I own a company that handles health records and we don't even know the passwords of our providers, patients, or pharmacy users for that matter. We don't want to know this info.

Health Records? Secure?

Bruhahahahahahaha

222 mfarmer1  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:19:50pm

re: #205 Charles

This interview is a big nothing.

Somewhere between Charlie Gibson and Sean Hannity would have been nice.

223 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:20:00pm

re: #182 EIDE_InterfaceMcCain still leads in Rasmussen. Why so gloomy?

224 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:20:18pm

The Left is going to fall off the cliff.

At the bottom, they will then proceed to convince themselves of their nobility as the Owners of the Truth and then "speak truth to power" until they die, delusional to the last.

225 Killian Bundy  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:20:27pm

Exit polls: Livni clear winner in Israeli primary

Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni won the Kadima Party's primary election for its leader Wednesday, TV exit polls said, putting her in a good position to become Israel's first female leader in 34 years and sending a message that peace talks with the Palestinians will proceed.

/maybe she won't be able to form a coalition

226 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:20:32pm

re: #219 Shug

He should have said it's small something ?

Just saying... Everything is so negative the last 5 days or so. That sinking feeling about the McCain campaign, the awful realization that Barack is probably going to be POTUS... Ugh.

227 willowone  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:20:39pm

re: #220 Dr. Shalit my late mother, ........Thats always what i think when i see her, very similar in looks and intellect.

228 Charles  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:20:45pm

Wasn't expecting much, and wasn't surprised.

229 Killian Bundy  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:20:59pm

re: #200 EIDE_Interface

Cool. She's a Likudnik right?

/um, no

230 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:21:00pm

re: #223 JammieWearingFool

That's the way "eide" is.

231 VMA211Dan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:21:30pm

Sarah answers the questions. BHO would be oh...ah....uh....I want Sarah as my leader. She is the future of our party(country). God bless her. We needed her now.(Yup i'm in the tank)

232 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:21:40pm

re: #223 JammieWearingFool

McCain still leads in Rasmussen. Why so gloomy?

RCP average shows even right now. Just a few days ago McCain had +2.5. He obviously blew it with a series of stupid effin gaffes.

233 ErislDysnomia  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:21:46pm

re: #204 Celtic Templar

It didn't go down that way ... the hacker used Yahoo's challenge response questions and reset her password to something he put in himself.

OK, it looks like this is what happened.

Still, the perp needs to be punished. Severely.

This hacking/ID theft/lawlessness/invasion of privacy will stop when people realize they will become Rocco's Prison Whore if they do it.

234 Luigi  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:21:59pm

She's more herself talking about Alaska.

235 LoFlyer  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:22:24pm

re: #231 VMA211Dan

Sarah answers the questions. BHO would be oh...ah....uh....I want Sarah as my leader. She is the future of our party(country). God bless her. We needed her now.(Yup i'm in the tank)

A toast Dan, May our country elect the best leaders!

236 mfarmer1  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:22:27pm

re: #221 ErislDysnomia

Health Records? Secure?

Bruhahahahahahaha

At least from our end thus far after a few years, yes, secure. Sounds like you had an experience otherwise.

237 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:22:29pm

re: #205 Charles

This interview is a big nothing.


Well, except perhaps for this:

People are tired of hearing the same-old same-old from the people who have been around Washington for gajillions of years.

She is such a novelty in that she is not part of the "DC establishment", and she speaks so well and clearly in everyday language, I would be willing to bet there are lots of people tuning in to listen to her that might not otherwise be listening to the candidates. And if they tune in, a good many will like her and will be convinced to listen some more.

238 Macker  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:22:30pm

re: #203 jcm and re: #209 EIDE_Interface

BOTH are to blame...Congress and the President!

239 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:22:33pm

FBI and Secret Service are on the case

As I said, have fun tonight, wankers. Tomorrow is going to hurt.

240 zombie  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:22:47pm

re: #207 buzzsawmonkey

I thought that drum solos began with Gene Krupa's big solo for "Drumboogie" in "Ball of Fire."

Ball of Fire was from 1941. Bob Haggart and Ray Bauduc recorded "Big Noise from Winnetka in 1938, beating Krupa by 3 years:

Big Noise From Winnetka is a jazz composition written by composer and bass player Bob Haggart. It was first recorded in 1938 and featured Bob Haggart and drummer Ray Bauduc, both members of the swing/dixieland orchestra Bob Crosby and the Bobcats. The recording is remarkable for its unusual duet feature: Haggart whistles the melody and plays the bass, while only Bauduc accompanies him on the drums. Halfway through the solo, Ray Bauduc starts drumming on the strings of the double bass, while Haggart continues to play with his left hand, creating a very percussive bass solo. After the success of the initial recording, they performed this song frequently for the rest of their careers. They performed the song in several films, most notably in 1941's "Let's Make Music" and 1943's "Reveille with Beverly". The original recording was featured on the soundtrack of Raging Bull.

Krupa was among the earliest drum soloists, but these two guys kind of pioneered the genre.

241 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:22:57pm

Just looking at the various state polls on RCP, this race really is EVEN right now. Barack will try to break it open with pounding McCain on his "economy is fundamentally good" gaffe.

242 Alouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:23:12pm

re: #193 soccerdad

Livni won the election. As an ignorant 'merican i ask with all sincerity: what does that do for the Israelis?

No hope, no change.

243 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:23:22pm

re: #232 EIDE_Interface

RCP average shows even right now. Just a few days ago McCain had +2.5. He obviously blew it with a series of stupid effin gaffes.

Patience. It's a long process.

244 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:23:33pm

re: #232 EIDE_Interface

RCP average shows even right now. Just a few days ago McCain had +2.5. He obviously blew it with a series of stupid effin gaffes.

Ebbs and flows of campaigns. Don't worry, McCain is going to win.

245 SagamoreGal  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:23:37pm

Do most Alaskans have that "Minnesooowwwwwdan" accent that Sarah has?

246 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:24:33pm

In LAX about two years ago... nice, younger, Hispanic lady bartender opened up to me about a small condo she wanted to buy. It was (wildly overpriced) at $350k.

I asked her how about her assets.

She patiently explained that she had no assets at all but was paying her credit card debt every month and that was just as good as an asset.

I explained about debts and asstes and begged her not to buy but to save everything until she had at least 30% of the purchase price in cash. I think (hope) she listened.

Funny thing is: she would have gotten that loan...

247 Alouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:24:39pm

re: #200 EIDE_Interface

Cool. She's a Likudnik right?

No.

248 ErislDysnomia  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:24:43pm

re: #236 mfarmer1

At least from our end thus far after a few years, yes, secure. Sounds like you had an experience otherwise.

Yeah.

Try this google search.

249 stevieray  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:25:08pm

re: #228 Charles

Wasn't expecting much, and wasn't surprised.

The only time interesting things happen on H&C is when Hannity is going after a leftist. Colmes is much too fey to be seriously challenging to anybody on the right.

250 kynna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:25:19pm

Well, if this interview is the 'comfy chair' then Katie Couric will be compelled to come back and be her biznatchyest. That one should be interesting.

I was wishing that one of Palin's early interviews wouldn't be with Hannity. She should sit down with Pajamas Media or something. That would be a fair, informative interview. (No suck-up intended, just callin' it as I see it)

251 Shug  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:25:45pm

re: #222 mfarmer1

Somewhere between Charlie Gibson and Sean Hannity would have been nice.

O'reilly

252 jacksontn  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:25:55pm

re: #209 EIDE_Interface

Huh, Bush himself was touting the need to give unqualified minorities house loans. He's the panderer-in-chief.

Actually Bush signed a bill this year banning minority and low income down payment assistance. Maxine Waters, et al has introduced a bill (H.R. 6694) which will reinstate the assistance and make it indefinite there was action on the bill yesterday. I have called my congressman and asked him not to vote in favor of the bill when it comes up. I posted about this bill in a previous thread. Ameridream and others have pushed to get many unqualified people into housing. The greed falls on the mortgage lenders and brokers, congress and people who live beyond their means and should be renting.

253 Macker  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:26:01pm

re: #249 stevieray

The only time interesting things happen on H&C is when Hannity is going after a leftist. Colmes Skeletor is much too fey to be seriously challenging to anybody on the right.

There, fixed that for ya!

254 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:26:27pm

I am glad it is a big nothing. Just questions and answers, not going for the gotcha. Need a breather from the political warfare. It is starting to wear me down. Seriously. I will be recharged for Courics interview.

255 Luigi  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:26:47pm

She's talking too fast. They probably told her to.

256 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:26:48pm

re: #252 jacksontn

Actually Bush signed a bill this year banning minority and low income down payment assistance. Maxine Waters, et al has introduced a bill (H.R. 6694) which will reinstate the assistance and make it indefinite there was action on the bill yesterday. I have called my congressman and asked him not to vote in favor of the bill when it comes up. I posted about this bill in a previous thread. Ameridream and others have pushed to get many unqualified people into housing. The greed falls on the mortgage lenders and brokers, congress and people who live beyond their means and should be renting.

Your link.

[Link: www.usnews.com...]

257 Bobibutu  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:26:56pm

re: #24 Dianna

I'm up-dinging everyone who compliments Buzzsawmonkey, because I have only one upding of my own to give.

Mmmmm Dianna, you put words together well also.

258 Macker  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:26:59pm

re: #252 jacksontn

You can still blame Bush for signing the damn bill!

259 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:27:37pm

re: #252 jacksontn

Actually Bush signed a bill this year banning minority and low income down payment assistance. Maxine Waters, et al has introduced a bill (H.R. 6694) which will reinstate the assistance and make it indefinite there was action on the bill yesterday. I have called my congressman and asked him not to vote in favor of the bill when it comes up. I posted about this bill in a previous thread. Ameridream and others have pushed to get many unqualified people into housing. The greed falls on the mortgage lenders and brokers, congress and people who live beyond their means and should be renting.

Well we all know what the real truth behind this is. Push minorities into houses they can't afford, and then the majority white/asian population that actually EARNS money has to bail them out. A back door into another income redistribution scheme. That Bush ever went along with is a facet of his idiotic "compassionate consevative" meme.

260 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:27:46pm

re: #254 snowcrash

I am glad it is a big nothing. Just questions and answers, not going for the gotcha. Need a breather from the political warfare. It is starting to wear me down. Seriously. I will be recharged for Courics interview.

I'm starting to think of this as a tune up game. Practice round for the next actual confrontation.

261 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:27:47pm

McCain up nine in Virginia, healthy lead in Florida, winning Ohio, within three points in Wisconsin, two in Michigan, three in NJ and this guy is ready to jump off a cliff.

Sheesh.

Obama should be the one crapping his pants.

262 ErislDysnomia  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:27:59pm

re: #252 jacksontn

Actually Bush signed a bill this year banning minority and low income down payment assistance. Maxine Waters, et al has introduced a bill (H.R. 6694) which will reinstate the assistance and make it indefinite there was action on the bill yesterday.

Hey, I'm a minority, I have "type O" blood. Can I qualify for a loan?

263 Shug  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:28:11pm

Why Couldn't Palin be interviewed by Hannity and Colmes?

I'd love to see her rip Alan for his blog comments

264 Intrepid  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:28:18pm

Her main roles as VP will be:

1. Energy
2. Reform

She also wants to focus on families with special needs kids.

She is strongest when she talks about energy and reform. In her speeches she needs to start hitting on those two issues, and with specifics.

That's what's missing in McCain's speeches - the specifics of what he is going to do.

265 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:28:23pm

re: #258 Macker

You can still blame Bush for signing the damn bill!

Should've vetoed it. A huge reason for his 30% approval is people like me disapproving.

266 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:28:34pm

re: #230 Sharmuta

That's the way "eide" is.

Well, maybe it's pissed at being replaced by SATA.

/heh heh heh computer humor

267 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:28:36pm

re: #261 JammieWearingFool

God, I love America.

268 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:29:06pm

re: #261 JammieWearingFool

McCain up nine in Virginia, healthy lead in Florida, winning Ohio, within three points in Wisconsin, two in Michigan, three in NJ and this guy is ready to jump off a cliff.

Sheesh.

Obama should be the one crapping his pants.

Here are all the Virginia polls:

PPP (D) 09/13 - 09/14 1090 LV 46 48 Obama +2
CNU Virginia Poll 09/10 - 09/14 500 RV 48 39 McCain +9
FOX News/Rasmussen 09/14 - 09/14 500 LV 48 48 Tie

Interesting that you cherry picked the +9 poll.

269 LoFlyer  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:29:11pm

re: #241 EIDE_Interface

Just looking at the various state polls on RCP, this race really is EVEN right now. Barack will try to break it open with pounding McCain on his "economy is fundamentally good" gaffe.

McCain voted for the Financial reform bill while Obama and Biden voted against it and defeated it. Americans are not as dumb as the elite Democrat MSM and DNC command believe. We are know the Democrats led the charge to make every American family eligible for a home loan, regardless of poor financial status. As we watch the market dive most Americans know the Democrats are responsible for the residential collapse. Unless McCain attacks on this issue he will lose.

270 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:29:29pm

re: #261 JammieWearingFool

He's a moby- what do you expect?

271 skree  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:30:47pm

You know what I like about this interview? No opinions. She's getting an opportunity to simply talk. This is the first time I have heard her simply talk about what she believes. I can hear the belief and passion in her voice and see it in her eye.

It is so refreshing to not have some one like Colmes butting in every 3 seconds playing "Gotcha". After all this woman has been put through I like just being able to hear her.

272 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:30:49pm

re: #269 LoFlyer

McCain voted for the Financial reform bill while Obama and Biden voted against it and defeated it. Americans are not as dumb as the elite Democrat MSM and DNC command believe. We are know the Democrats led the charge to make every American family eligible for a home loan, regardless of poor financial status. As we watch the market dive most Americans know the Democrats are responsible for the residential collapse. Unless McCain attacks on this issue he will lose.

Ah, but the average dumb swing voter doesn't look at McCain's actual record. They will simply notice the gaffe that Barack will advertise the hell out of. That's the way politics works my friend.

273 jacksontn  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:30:56pm

re: #261 JammieWearingFool

McCain up nine in Virginia, healthy lead in Florida, winning Ohio, within three points in Wisconsin, two in Michigan, three in NJ and this guy is ready to jump off a cliff.

Sheesh.

Obama should be the one crapping his pants.

Where did you get the 9 nine points in VA. Hope it is real.

274 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:31:23pm

i think it's a great interview. she's talking to people in their own living rooms who are relieved to see her happy and positive after that gibson assault.
she's getting her message out. and she's incredibly likable.

275 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:31:32pm

re: #270 Sharmuta

He's a moby- what do you expect?

You know I'm really resenting your ad hominem attacks on me. Cool it will ya?

276 jacksontn  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:31:52pm

re: #265 EIDE_Interface

Should've vetoed it. A huge reason for his 30% approval is people like me disapproving.

Plenty of blame to go around on both sides. Whatever happened to 20% down?

277 tronix  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:31:53pm

'IN TRUTH'....always followed by a democrat lie!

278 ErislDysnomia  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:32:02pm

Eris to Dan Rather:

We hear somename named Lucy Ramirez handed you an incriminating Sarah Palin email with Sarah referring to BHO as a "big lobed Ferengi dickhead." In monospaced font from a 1972 typewriter.

Dan, you GOTTA report this one!

279 Intrepid  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:32:03pm

re: #251 Shug

O'reilly

That would go something like this:

Bill O'R: Welcome Governor Palin, glad to have you with here on the Factor. It took us months and months before Barack Obama finally joined us, and we're glad you answered so quickly.

SP: Thank you, Bill, I'm so glad to be with you. Your interview with Sen Obama was very good.

B O'R: Thank you Governor - but enough about me, let's talk about you. What do you think of me?

280 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:32:11pm

re: #261 JammieWearingFool

McCain up nine in Virginia, healthy lead in Florida, winning Ohio, within three points in Wisconsin, two in Michigan, three in NJ and this guy is ready to jump off a cliff.

Sheesh.

Obama should be the one crapping his pants.

PA and WA are in play for pete's sake.

Given the advantage Obama has it should be +10. But it's a neck and neck race.

Wait till old age and treachery meet youth and inexperience in the debates.

281 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:32:19pm

If the US Attorney is going to move on the hackers I hope they do it fast. The lawyers will probably try to get everything kicked down the road until February.

282 SagamoreGal  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:32:29pm

It's only the first of two nights.

Jeez-does she have to undergo a Staasi-like interrogation during every interview between now and Nov 4? Three weeks of gazillions of articles about her, reading the Anchorage Daily News every day , etc - I personally don't feel like there's too much more I need to know about her or her "policies". She'll be the V.P.. We've never needed to know that much abour our V.P. candidates until Cheney arrived on the scene.

-OK, maybe I'd ask her if she ranks TR as one of the top three presidents in our history?

283 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:32:50pm

re: #276 jacksontn

Plenty of blame to go around on both sides. Whatever happened to 20% down?

Dunno, I did my 20% like all decent Americans.

284 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:33:07pm

re: #270 Sharmuta

You know what the problem is? No gamy buttocks. Time was, when mobys would really lay it on thick. Now it's all shifty here, shifty there. Feh to all that.

285 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:33:14pm

re: #274 nyc redneck

i think it's a great interview. she's talking to people in their own living rooms who are relieved to see her happy and positive after that gibson assault.
she's getting her message out. and she's incredibly likable.

Yes. And people including Dems will tune in to watch her because she is such a novelty, and they will like her, and perhaps pay as much attention to the issues as they should be, rather than sticking with "voting the party line".

286 spypeach  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:33:31pm

People are never happy, either it's too edited or it or to fluffy.

I for one am very happy to relax for a second and hear her answer the questions without being disrespected.

287 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:33:33pm

re: #268 EIDE_Interface

Here are all the Virginia polls:

PPP (D) 09/13 - 09/14 1090 LV 46 48 Obama +2
CNU Virginia Poll 09/10 - 09/14 500 RV 48 39 McCain +9
FOX News/Rasmussen 09/14 - 09/14 500 LV 48 48 Tie

Interesting that you cherry picked the +9 poll.

It's the most recent one, released today. You really need to get a life.

288 tronix  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:33:37pm

'FANNIE AND FREDDIE'......a democrat snakehole infested by democrat ***holes..........OBOMA send largest benificiary of their largess...


DEMOCRAT CORRUPTION!.......NOW A REDUNDANCY

289 Bobibutu  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:33:39pm

re: #151 rawmuse

Gah. I just watch NBC nightly news. They are motivated to smear Palin with the smallest thing they can find. Meanwhile, Obama has to disown everyone and everything he ever did and NBC will report of none of it.

I am convinced that the Democrats wish to destroy the USA, and the way events are unfolding they may yet succeed, even if McCain wins.

That, my friend, is the very scary part. The question is do we choose to participate or not.

290 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:33:43pm

re: #274 nyc redneck

i think it's a great interview. she's talking to people in their own living rooms who are relieved to see her happy and positive after that gibson assault.
she's getting her message out. and she's incredibly likable.

I not only love her as a person... I could see Sarah as a POTUS in 4 to 8 years..She is lightyears ahead of anyone..

291 MeCurious  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:34:02pm

re: #205 Charles

This interview is a big nothing.

Why do you say that?

292 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:34:06pm

re: #282 SagamoreGal

It's only the first of two nights.

Jeez-does she have to undergo a Staasi-like interrogation during every interview between now and Nov 4? Three weeks of gazillions of articles about her, reading the Anchorage Daily News every day , etc - I personally don't feel like there's too much more I need to know about her or her "policies". She'll be the V.P.. We've never needed to know that much abour our V.P. candidates until Cheney arrived on the scene.

-OK, maybe I'd ask her if she ranks TR as one of the top three presidents in our history?

If you ask any leftist - sure! They want her to undergo the 3rd degree every single second. No humanity in the left.

293 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:34:10pm

re: #225 Killian Bundy

Exit polls: Livni clear winner in Israeli primary

/maybe she won't be able to form a coalition

"K-B" -

And to think, she used to be "Mossad Miriam" in her younger days.

-S-

294 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:34:14pm

Did O'reilly have a Repub rebuttal when he interviewed Obama like Colmes is doing now with the D rebuttal to Palen?

295 tronix  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:34:53pm

GLICK AND RAINES AND OTHER CLINTON SCUM.....see how much they siphoned of of what ultimately is the taxpayers....they became unbelievably rich!

296 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:34:57pm

re: #287 JammieWearingFool

It's the most recent one, released today. You really need to get a life.

Huh, the Fox News/Rasmussen is 9/14 just like the one you picked and it shows Even. What happened to accuracy in reporting?

297 LoFlyer  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:34:59pm

re: #272 EIDE_Interface

Ah, but the average dumb swing voter doesn't look at McCain's actual record. They will simply notice the gaffe that Barack will advertise the hell out of. That's the way politics works my friend.

Not this time, things have changed. Charles, LGF and the conservative blogs turned around the election in 2004 after the CBS 60 minutes fraud. We will do it again this time. If we don't, then we will do it the next time.
/never back down, unless facing overwhelming odds!

298 neocon hippie  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:35:39pm

There was an Obama benefit concert in Oakland last night. An acquaintance reported that the funniest line was "Sarah Palin is Dick Cheney with lipstick."

I'm just ROTFLMAO.

/

299 zombie  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:35:50pm

re: #280 jcm

PA and WA are in play for pete's sake.

Given the advantage Obama has it should be +10. But it's a neck and neck race.

Wait till old age and treachery meet youth and inexperience in the debates.

More astoundingly: Wisconsin and Oregon are now within the margin of error. And they should be SOLID Obama.

Basically, the race is completely up in the air, and anything could happen at this point. McCain has about 220 electoral votes locked up, Obama has about 200 locked up -- and ALL the remaining states are with 3 percentage points either way.

Polls are notoriously unreliable when races are close. This one will go down to the wire.

300 tronix  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:35:59pm

DIANE DEGENERATE!..WHAT A parrot of talking points!

301 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:36:00pm

Powerline has another take on Virginia

302 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:36:05pm

re: #273 jacksontn

Where did you get the 9 nine points in VA. Hope it is real.

Here. Up nine among registered voters.

303 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:36:11pm

re: #275 EIDE_Interface

It's not ad hominem. But carry on- the Lizards aren't stupid.

304 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:36:17pm

re: #285 reine.de.tout

Yes. And people including Dems will tune in to watch her because she is such a novelty, and they will like her, and perhaps pay as much attention to the issues as they should be, rather than sticking with "voting the party line".

she's polished and personable. and so refreshing.
i agree, dems will like her. she will get a lot of cross over vote.

305 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:36:20pm

re: #283 EIDE_Interface

Dunno, I did my 20% like all decent Americans.

My wife and lived in crappy apartments saving up.
Told lenders to shove their low ARM's which I said back then would go up 20-30% while income was going up 5%.
Then refi'ed at the bottom of the market with another fixed and switch a 30 year to a 15 year at the same payments.

Now I've got to bail all the greedy stupid people out.

306 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:36:30pm

re: #269 LoFlyer

McCain voted for the Financial reform bill while Obama and Biden voted against it and defeated it. Americans are not as dumb as the elite Democrat MSM and DNC command believe. We are know the Democrats led the charge to make every American family eligible for a home loan, regardless of poor financial status. As we watch the market dive most Americans know the Democrats are responsible for the residential collapse. Unless McCain attacks on this issue he will lose.

I am not calling the American public dumb, well not today I'm not, but I am calling them uninformed. We, that is the readers of LGF may know who created this mess but that does not extrapolate. With respect, most Americans do not know the Democrats are responsible. You could take it to the bank that the MSM will ensure that the majority do not learn it anytime soon.

307 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:36:31pm

re: #297 LoFlyer

Not this time, things have changed. Charles, LGF and the conservative blogs turned around the election in 2004 after the CBS 60 minutes fraud. We will do it again this time. If we don't, then we will do it the next time.
/never back down, unless facing overwhelming odds!

Was it a lie that McCain said on Monday that the economy was "fundamentally sound"? He did say that, and I agree with him. It's just that my viewpoint is maybe shared by 30% of the people out there. Most people have been scared out of their minds by the MSM.

308 zombie  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:36:52pm

re: #298 neocon hippie

There was an Obama benefit concert in Oakland last night. An acquaintance reported that the funniest line was "Sarah Palin is Dick Cheney with lipstick."

I'm just ROTFLMAO.

/

where was the concert? Too bad I missed it. Any celebrities show up? And who performed?

309 tronix  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:37:00pm

DIANE DEGENERATE...OBOMA SUPPORTER....LOOKS ATHLETIC!LOL

310 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:37:16pm

re: #272 EIDE_Interface

Uh, not really. If people look around them and see that they've still got their jobs, and their friends still have their jobs, then it's not a gaffe.

311 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:37:16pm

Good question from Sean on Frank Raines taking big money out of Fannie along with B. Hussein getting a bunch. She had no answer.

312 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:37:35pm

re: #279 Intrepid

That would go something like this:

Bill O'R: Welcome Governor Palin, glad to have you with here on the Factor. It took us months and months before Barack Obama finally joined us, and we're glad you answered so quickly.

SP: Thank you, Bill, I'm so glad to be with you. Your interview with Sen Obama was very good.

B O'R: Thank you Governor - but enough about me, let's talk about you. What do you think of me?

ROFLMAO!

313 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:37:45pm

re: #296 EIDE_Interface

Huh, the Fox News/Rasmussen is 9/14 just like the one you picked and it shows Even. What happened to accuracy in reporting?

It's a story from today.

What is up your ass?

314 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:37:52pm

Unless McCain attacks Congress on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, he's done. He's well positioned to do so, but he keeps relapsing to his "corrupt Wall Street" meme. Trouble is, it's the same song Obama is singing.

Is there corruption on Wall Street? Absolutely. But it's enabled by Democrats in Congress involved in the "crony capitalism" of which Obama complains.

McCain and his team drive me nuts. They're like political idiot-savants--flashes of brilliance followed by drooling idiocy. He must maintain his momentum to win this. Does he have any other tricks in his bag?

315 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:37:57pm

re: #305 jcm

My wife and lived in crappy apartments saving up.
Told lenders to shove their low ARM's which I said back then would go up 20-30% while income was going up 5%.
Then refi'ed at the bottom of the market with another fixed and switch a 30 year to a 15 year at the same payments.

Now I've got to bail all the greedy stupid people out.

It pisses the hell out of me. Almost makes me want to say the hell with this situation and let's start Civil War II - The War against the Parasites.

316 skree  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:38:10pm

re: #294 ciaospirit

Did O'reilly have a Repub rebuttal when he interviewed Obama like Colmes is doing now with the D rebuttal to Palen?

I don't remember one....was there one?

317 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:38:16pm

re: #298 neocon hippie

There was an Obama benefit concert in Oakland last night. An acquaintance reported that the funniest line was "Sarah Palin is Dick Cheney with lipstick."

I'm just ROTFLMAO.

/

And to think in about 30 years when all the histories are really written Dick Cheney will be hailed as the best, most useful veep in history.

318 MeCurious  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:38:20pm

re: #228 Charles

Wasn't expecting much, and wasn't surprised.

Charles, what is it about Sara that you don't like? I'm curious.

319 right_in_canada  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:38:53pm

re: #292 EIDE_Interface

If you ask any leftist - sure! They want her to undergo the 3rd degree every single second. No humanity in the left.


And no investigation required on the left either.

We are going to investigate every day of your veep candidate's life from birth to present, but don't you dare ask us to disclose any more than you already know about "The CHOSEN one".

We told you all you need to know, he is as pure as the wind-driven snow and he poops gold nuggets !

What a JOKE!
Good night all!

320 The Shadow Do  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:38:58pm

re: #290 HoosierHoops

I not only love her as a person... I could see Sarah as a POTUS in 4 to 8 years..She is lightyears ahead of anyone..

I agree. In fact, to go one further, I would like to see her in office tomorrow. 4-8 years in Washington does nothing more than tarnish the candidate with loads of corrosive BS. I think she sees the field pretty clearly right now and I hope that doesn't change. Bright lady this one is.

321 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:39:04pm

re: #276 jacksontn

That's what I did.

322 VMA211Dan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:39:17pm

Greta coming on. Talking about e-mail invasion by leftist scumbags. My words not hers.

323 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:39:20pm

re: #310 Dianna

Uh, not really. If people look around them and see that they've still got their jobs, and their friends still have their jobs, then it's not a gaffe.

People have jobs but are anxious. Obama will feed on their anxiety further. Politics of fear.

324 jacksontn  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:39:57pm

re: #256 MandyManners

Thanks.

325 kellino  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:40:11pm

Sheez. The problem with the economy is "greed on Wall Street"?!?!

Either she doesn't understand the real issues, or she's being told to to stick to populist demagoguery.

Wall Street bought all kinds of paper which included mortage bundles. The problem is that nearly everyone underestimated the risk because they didn't see the mortage collapse coming.

The Mortage collapse in a large part is due to legislation passed during the Clinton Administration which FORCED lenders to lend to subprime credit more agressively. Then the low interest rates in 2002 and viola! Instant default crisis.

Is her solution MORE regulation? Yes, and Sarbannes-Oxley has already done so much for us.

As a free market conservative I'm not inspired with her answers at all. Then again McCain doesn't do much for me on that front either.

The economy is where these two could yet lose this election.

326 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:40:31pm

re: #318 MeCurious

Charles, what is it about Sara that you don't like? I'm curious.

There is a certain elitist clique in conservative circles that looks down their noses at that "hick Palin".

327 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:40:32pm

re: #318 MeCurious

Charles, what is it about Sara that you don't like? I'm curious.

I don't want to speak for da boss but I think he was saying the interview would be softball not that Palin herself would be

328 sngnsgt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:40:43pm

I love it, Barry O's "tax rebates" would put a jingle in Americans pockets, but while you're at it, you might as well pull 'em down and bend over when you get his tax increases.

329 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:40:49pm

re: #228 Charles

Wasn't expecting much, and wasn't surprised.

Oh Mighty Lizard! i only downdinged you to get your attention.. I know you read a zillion posts a day..sorry
I think Sarah did an absolutely wonderful job tonight..for being on the trail for 3 weeks..the choosen one has been in the race for 19 hard fought months..and in a debate...I'd put money on Sarah!
Thanks for the wonderful site charles..

330 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:40:51pm

re: #316 skree

I don't remember one....was there one?

I don't know. That's why I'm asking.

331 mfarmer1  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:41:27pm

re: #248 ErislDysnomia

Yeah.

Try this google search.

Versus what, a folder sitting in a doctor's office? That's hardly secure either. It's a reality of the times. Ain't going back. The benefits far outweigh the risks to most patients as well and in fact, studies including our own in the trenches polling show a desire to have health records available electronically, and now. The majority of HIPAA violations and breeches of privacy have not originated from hacks into electronic records, but from more matter of fact methods.

Personally, I wouldn't care if my records became public knowledge, it's not an issue with me unless that information is used against me in some way. But I understand, respect, and comply with the laws regarding this sensitive issue.

332 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:41:29pm

When is the TV going to become available on a simple web feed? no technical reason I know of not to, just forcing a subsidy for the CATV company to do it this way.

333 Moe Katz  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:41:39pm

re: #326 EIDE_Interface

There is a certain elitist clique in conservative circles that looks down their noses at that "hick Palin".

And you think Charles would be among them?

334 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:41:50pm

re: #313 JammieWearingFool

It's a story from today.

What is up your ass?

It's all about the trend.

Look at the RCP graph since the middle of June. Draw an imaginary trend line. On is up one is down.

335 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:42:15pm

I have a link from billoreilly.com, and I must say, he sure as hell doesn't have enough people visiting his website as he has viewers.

336 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:42:18pm

re: #315 EIDE_Interface

It pisses the hell out of me. Almost makes me want to say the hell with this situation and let's start Civil War II - The War against the Parasites.

you're a little bit hyper, aren't you?
and are you really so down in the mouth that you're abt. to trip over your lip because you thought sarah's interview was bad?
relax.
she was fine.

337 LoFlyer  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:42:18pm

re: #306 lifeofthemind

I am not calling the American public dumb, well not today I'm not, but I am calling them uninformed. We, that is the readers of LGF may know who created this mess but that does not extrapolate. With respect, most Americans do not know the Democrats are responsible. You could take it to the bank that the MSM will ensure that the majority do not learn it anytime soon.

That's why McCain must attack and publicize his role in the affair, our duty is to broadcast facts. If McCain doesn't step up to the plate, we can't help him bat...

338 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:42:31pm

re: #326 EIDE_Interface

There is a certain elitist clique in conservative circles that looks down their noses at that "hick Palin".

Yeah- like you, who called her and her family "white trash".

339 tronix  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:42:41pm

THIS cant be a real interview!
Hannity was NOT a smarmy sultan of sanctimony!..There was NO condenscending!....No ivy league cool shades to peer over with VAST superiority..

IN SHORT..not a mainstream journalist and interview is null...just ask the NEW YORK times

340 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:42:57pm

re: #305 jcm

I feel exactly the same.

341 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:43:01pm

re: #333 Moe Katz

And you think Charles would be among them?

I have no idea what is in his heart, but there has been some ugly stuff out of NRO crowd lately.

Anyways, I don't like what I'm hearing from Palin today about "Greedy wall street", that's typical socialist bullcrap. So much for Palin the magnificent reformer.

342 jacksontn  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:43:27pm

re: #317 jcm

And to think in about 30 years when all the histories are really written Dick Cheney will be hailed as the best, most useful veep in history.

Maybe but I am hoping Sarah Palin will be hailed as the most useful veep in history because if we don't pull this election off my kids daughters may be getting fitted for burkas.

343 Charles  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:43:40pm

re: #318 MeCurious

Charles, what is it about Sara that you don't like? I'm curious.

That's not what I meant -- I didn't expect much from Hannity and sure enough, softball questions all the way.

344 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:44:03pm

Sarah Palin is a small state governor with little experience dealing with a hostile press.

I think it is infinitely wise to to keep her away from this hostile, gotcha media attack machine until she masters the dark arts of dealing with these people. She will master them. She just needs a little time.

345 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:44:10pm

re: #338 Sharmuta

Yeah- like you, who called her and her family "white trash".

Yeah but I took it back once I learned more about her. So far Rich Lowry hasn't.

346 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:44:19pm

re: #337 LoFlyer

That's why McCain must attack and publicize his role in the affair, our duty is to broadcast facts. If McCain doesn't step up to the plate, we can't help him bat...


No argument there, I'm sure we could both write good 30 to 60 second scripts that would pound things home and get the mojo moving.

347 LoFlyer  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:44:22pm

re: #314 quickjustice

Unless McCain attacks Congress on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, he's done. He's well positioned to do so, but he keeps relapsing to his "corrupt Wall Street" meme. Trouble is, it's the same song Obama is singing.

Is there corruption on Wall Street? Absolutely. But it's enabled by Democrats in Congress involved in the "crony capitalism" of which Obama complains.

McCain and his team drive me nuts. They're like political idiot-savants--flashes of brilliance followed by drooling idiocy. He must maintain his momentum to win this. Does he have any other tricks in his bag?

Agreed Quick justice. Real flashes of brilliance followed by a black hole....

348 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:44:35pm

re: #307 EIDE_Interface

Was it a lie that McCain said on Monday that the economy was "fundamentally sound"? He did say that, and I agree with him. It's just that my viewpoint is maybe shared by 30% of the people out there. Most people have been scared out of their minds by the MSM.

People are not that stupid.

They look around and see that they don't know people who are losing their jobs.

349 bnichols10  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:45:11pm

re: #325 kellino

I think they knew what the risks were - that's why products like mortgage derivatives were created. Companies were forced to take on all of these loans that they knew would come due at some point. They created these products and swapped the risk like it was a game of hot potato. The ones getting burned now are the ones who bought too much or held on too long.

350 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:45:25pm

re: #334 jcm

It's all about the trend.

Look at the RCP graph since the middle of June. Draw an imaginary trend line. On is up one is down.

Just imagine if the media was even reasonably balanced. I prefer to stay positive and I realize who the better candidate is. Obama's already showing signs of desperation with seven weeks to go.

351 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:45:35pm

re: #348 Dianna

People are not that stupid.

They look around and see that they don't know people who are losing their jobs.

It's more complex then that. This election will be decided by people who do have jobs, but are anxious about the future. Do you know anyone who isn't anxious?

352 MeCurious  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:45:45pm

re: #343 Charles

That's not what I meant -- I didn't expect much from Hannity and sure enough, softball questions all the way.

Charles, what, for example, would you have asked?

353 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:45:51pm

re: #264 Intrepid


She is strongest when she talks about energy and reform. In her speeches she needs to start hitting on those two issues, and with specifics.

She need to be hammering the Dems for their sham energy bill they just passed. With specifics.

"If this bill wasn't anything other than a political stunt by the Democrats, why did they bring it up in the middle of the night, and bypass the regular order of business, bypass the relevant Congressional committees, and rush it to the floor without hearings or the opportunity to amend? This do-nothing, drill nowhere Congress could and should have acted long ago to address this nation's critical need for energy. John McCain and I are running to get problems solved for the American people, while Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Reid are more interested in running for political cover."

354 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:46:11pm

re: #350 JammieWearingFool

Just imagine if the media was even reasonably balanced. I prefer to stay positive and I realize who the better candidate is. Obama's already showing signs of desperation with seven weeks to go.

Ah, but reality is a totally hostile 5th column media. No point in wishing it away. But yes, I agree we have to destroy the MSM.

355 LoFlyer  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:46:14pm

re: #344 experiencedtraveller

Sarah Palin is a small state governor with little experience dealing with a hostile press.

I think it is infinitely wise to to keep her away from this hostile, gotcha media attack machine until she masters the dark arts of dealing with these people. She will master them. She just needs a little time.

/Bozo on the bus!

356 Moe Katz  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:46:22pm

re: #341 EIDE_Interface

I have no idea what is in his heart, but there has been some ugly stuff out of NRO crowd lately.

It's just strange you'd be suggesting Charles would be looking down his nose at Palin, he's done nothing of the sort on the blog entries to this point.

357 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:46:29pm

re: #345 EIDE_Interface

That you even used that rhetoric shows your an elitist yourself.

358 CommonCents  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:46:49pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

Wow. You know what I call that?

Sweet.

359 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:46:57pm

re: #304 nyc redneck

she's polished and personable. and so refreshing.
i agree, dems will like her. she will get a lot of cross over vote.

You and I sure do seem to be on the same wavelength here, don't we?

360 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:46:58pm

re: #313 JammieWearingFool

He's worried and a bit depressed.

He's been off his feed since the convention; he seems to believe that the MSM could turn the election, and that we're complacent.

361 skree  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:46:58pm

Rove you magnificent bastard!

362 Intrepid  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:47:11pm

re: #313 JammieWearingFool

It's a story from today.

What is up your ass?

The hangover after the convention bounce party is setting in for lots of folks. On Hot Air today lots of people had caught AP's gloom and doom, and it was all because of the poll changes.

I caught some of it myself, but when I went back and looked at the trends, I felt better. Not to mention the fact that McCain has put several deep blue states (WA, OR, NJ) and some light blue ones (WI, MI, PA) in serious jeopardy for Obama. Obama probably never planned on spending more than a couple hundred bucks in WA and OR, not to mention NJ! He'll have to spend some of his hard earned dollars in those three states if he doesn't want them to slip away from him.

He already is planning to spend 39 million in Florida, even though he's pretty much lost that one.

363 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:47:12pm

re: #357 Sharmuta

That you even used that rhetoric shows your an elitist yourself.

Oh you just won't quit will you? No Christian charity in you.

364 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:47:20pm

re: #343 Charles

That's not what I meant -- I didn't expect much from Hannity and sure enough, softball questions all the way.

Hannity does as best he can, and I didn't have high expectations to begin with. She didn't make an idiot of herself, so I figure it's a wash.

365 Catttt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:47:26pm

Karl Rove is totally pwning Skeletor the Pig.

366 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:47:28pm

re: #325 kellino

Wall Street bought all kinds of paper which included mortage bundles. The problem is that nearly everyone underestimated the risk because they didn't see the mortage collapse coming.

I don't get this.

Lehman was financing what, 600 billion with just 30 billion. That's not rocket science.

All those bundled mortgage things? Come on. When you apply for a mortgage, you declare your income. All that data gets entered somewhere. You can't tell me someone couldn't have analyzed a particular bundle for risk, based on differences of loan amount vs. annual income.

They should've seen this coming. Interest rates were at historic lows, builders were going crazy, and a bubble formed.

The problem was, money was good, so nobody cared.

367 katemaclaren  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:47:29pm

re: #273 jacksontn

Where does this info come from?

Btw--Rove is taking AC to the woodshed right now

368 zombie  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:47:30pm

re: #325 kellino

The economy is where these two could yet lose this election.

And what miracle answers do Obama and Biden have?

Zilch.

An existing (partially trumped up) financial crisis does not mean that one candidate or another suddenly has the advantage. As you point out, the mortgage crash is mostly due to PC rules laid down during the Clinton era -- especially a new law that allowed minorities with bad credit to sue for discrimination if they are turned down for house loans. Banks figured it was simpler to just give them the loans than waste money defending frivolous lawsuits by the thousands. The banks' mistake was to assume that even if those with bad credit and no income defaulted on the loan, the collateral (ie. the house) would be worth more than the loan anyway, so they'd win either way.

When house values started dropping, and balloon payments suddenly started coming due five years later (coincidentally during the Bush administration, though he had nothing to do with it) -- disaster resulted.

It is only the MSM trying to whip up a panic-induced recession that could give an edge to Obama - -not the fact that one side or the other has better answers to the crisis.

369 spypeach  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:47:44pm

I think Rove just made Alan dirty up his underwear.

370 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:47:46pm

re: #359 reine.de.tout

seems like we usually are.
:)

371 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:47:56pm
372 Opinionated  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:48:07pm

re: #228 Charles

Wasn't expecting much, and wasn't surprised.

re: #228 Charles

Wasn't expecting much, and wasn't surprised.

If Palin is a plus and helps McCain win the White House, she was necessary.

But honest Republicans have to admit, as Krauthammer, Brooks, others, have admitted, that she should never have been picked if qualification is a criteria.

But although some on our side have the courage to make that admission, the Democrats and the media dare not admit that their top of the ticket is just as unqualified as Palin and he is running for President.

In a match of

An unqualified socialist radical running with a qualified wrong headed jerk

versus

A highly qualified war hero running with a charming unqualified person with potential

It is no contest.

373 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:48:09pm

re: #309 tronix

DIANE DEGENERATE...OBOMA SUPPORTER....LOOKS ATHLETIC!LOL

What does that mean?

374 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:48:21pm

Rove just told Colmes that he's embarrassing himself. Ha!

375 mama winger  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:48:25pm

Wisconsin is really tightening up, and sure enough ACORN is out in force. There is a HUGE push right now for an investigation into voter fraud and of course the Dems are kicking and screaming about it being 'partisan'.

Since when did Fair Elections become a partisan issue?

One man - one vote. If someone gets to vote two or three times by cheating, it disenfranchises the people who abide by the law. If anything in this country is sacred, it is the security and validity of the ballot box. Otherwise we might as well be living in a third world dictatorship.

376 katemaclaren  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:48:26pm

Karl Rove tells Allan, You are EMBARRASSING yourself, here."

377 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:48:26pm

re: #351 EIDE_Interface

I have never known anyone who isn't anxious, just a touch. It's why we save, invest and take extra courses to increase our value.

People will not panic unnecessarily.

378 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:48:38pm

re: #351 EIDE_Interface

It's more complex then that. This election will be decided by people who do have jobs, but are anxious about the future. Do you know anyone who isn't anxious?

I'm not anxious.

379 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:48:44pm

re: #343 Charles

That's not what I meant -- I didn't expect much from Hannity and sure enough, softball questions all the way.

Softball questions don't do her any favors at this point, she needs to exhude confidence and professionalism, let Obama look wet nursed by questions like "Do you prefer puppies or kittens?" I did not see this, no cable, but she needed a chance to show she understands Russian and Chinese fleet activity in the Pacific, Russian strategic threats in the Artic and Caucusus and the Energy markets, and the role of Community Reinvestment sub-prime loans in the collapse of Lehman.

380 katemaclaren  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:48:56pm

re: #369 spypeach

Ain't it GREAT! No BS.

381 PAgirlinNC  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:48:59pm

Make him cry, Karl!

382 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:49:05pm

re: #315 EIDE_Interface

It pisses the hell out of me. Almost makes me want to say the hell with this situation and let's start Civil War II - The War against the Parasites.

Keep yer' powder dry, no where near there yet.

60% of Americans self identify conservative to very conservative. However a bunch of those are motivated by politics as usual. The need some to vote for, a Reagan, and maybe Palin. They also vote agains, and Red Obama raises all kinds of alarms with them.

They don't have time for pollsters, I just hang up on 'em. Or they lie.

Be conservative, be positive, be smart.

Obama and friends are digging a political grave that will take them a minimum of 16 years to dig out of. By that time SCOTUS will be conservative for another 25-30 years.

383 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:49:12pm

re: #366 godfrey

I don't get this.

Lehman was financing what, 600 billion with just 30 billion. That's not rocket science.

All those bundled mortgage things? Come on. When you apply for a mortgage, you declare your income. All that data gets entered somewhere. You can't tell me someone couldn't have analyzed a particular bundle for risk, based on differences of loan amount vs. annual income.

They should've seen this coming. Interest rates were at historic lows, builders were going crazy, and a bubble formed.

The problem was, money was good, so nobody cared.

Being leveraged 20:1 only works when the cash flow is coming good and steady. Once the cash flow dries up, you're up shit creek. Now I think it's utterly moronic to be leveraged 20:1, but I'm just a stupid American.

384 Alouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:49:29pm

re: #344 experiencedtraveller

Sarah Palin is a small state governor with little experience dealing with a hostile press.

I think it is infinitely wise to to keep her away from this hostile, gotcha media attack machine until she masters the dark arts of dealing with these people. She will master them. She just needs a little time.

I think she's doing just fine considering she was thrown in the shark tank on day one.

385 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:49:36pm

re: #355 LoFlyer

/Bozo on the bus!

Say what?

386 Catttt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:50:02pm

re: #374 ciaospirit

Rove just told Colmes that he's embarrassing himself. Ha!

Skeletor the Pig was totallly outbrained.

387 Charles  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:50:04pm

re: #352 MeCurious

Charles, what, for example, would you have asked?

It's not even just the questions. This wasn't any kind of live interview, it was pre-recorded and probably approved by both sides. It was packaged.

388 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:50:09pm

re: #326 EIDE_Interface

There is a certain elitist clique in conservative circles that looks down their noses at that "hick Palin".

Where do you get off answering for Charles?

389 rorschach  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:50:11pm
A Modern Liberal Democrat


Simply a fabulous new offering from that intrepid songwriting team...

...Gilbert and buzzsawmonkey!

...or is it buzzsawmonkey and Gilbert?

390 tronix  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:50:18pm

Alan, you're embarrassing yourself.......kik ass rove!

391 arethusa  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:50:22pm

Alan Colmes and Karl Rove are arguing about which campaign has more questionable folks in it and Colmes finally yelled, "McCain has more lobbyists!"

That's intelligent political discourse, folks.

392 neocon hippie  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:50:26pm

re: #308 zombie

At some venue in Oakland on Alice Street whose name I don't remember. Performers included:

Maria Muldaur
Tuck & Patti
Tommy Castro
David Gans
Hot Buttered Rum w/Michael Kang

Hosted by Marga Gomez

393 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:50:44pm

re: #362 Intrepid

The hangover after the convention bounce party is setting in for lots of folks. On Hot Air today lots of people had caught AP's gloom and doom, and it was all because of the poll changes.

I caught some of it myself, but when I went back and looked at the trends, I felt better. Not to mention the fact that McCain has put several deep blue states (WA, OR, NJ) and some light blue ones (WI, MI, PA) in serious jeopardy for Obama. Obama probably never planned on spending more than a couple hundred bucks in WA and OR, not to mention NJ! He'll have to spend some of his hard earned dollars in those three states if he doesn't want them to slip away from him.

He already is planning to spend 39 million in Florida, even though he's pretty much lost that one.

Exactly. He has to waste resources shoring up states that should be slam dunks and McCain is holding all of Bush's states and will probably pick off a couple of blues.

I'm confident.

For all the shit I've been through in my life, if I sat around being a worry-wart I'd probably never leave the house.

394 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:50:46pm

re: #375 mama winger

Wisconsin is really tightening up, and sure enough ACORN is out in force. There is a HUGE push right now for an investigation into voter fraud and of course the Dems are kicking and screaming about it being 'partisan'.

Since when did Fair Elections become a partisan issue?

One man - one vote. If someone gets to vote two or three times by cheating, it disenfranchises the people who abide by the law. If anything in this country is sacred, it is the security and validity of the ballot box. Otherwise we might as well be living in a third world dictatorship.

I just read this at Michelle Malkin about ACORN in NewMexico.

395 hooligan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:50:47pm

re: #341 EIDE_Interface

I have no idea what is in his heart, but there has been some ugly stuff out of NRO crowd lately.

Anyways, I don't like what I'm hearing from Palin today about "Greedy wall street", that's typical socialist bullcrap. So much for Palin the magnificent reformer.

There IS greed on Wall Street. There always has been. And it is usually rewarded by just what is happening now----ever heard the expression "pigs get rich but hogs get slaughtered"? It's an old truism about smart investing.

The only problem is instead of slaughtering the hogs some of them (Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae) are being put up in the Ritz with room service from their paid-for friends like Obama---

396 mfarmer1  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:51:13pm

re: #374 ciaospirit

Rove just told Colmes that he's embarrassing himself. Ha!

You can always tell when someone really has the knowledge and facts behind their statements and when the other is just spouting off. I've never seen Alan pwned like that before. I felt bad for Skeletor.

397 stevieray  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:51:16pm

Looks like science has a second enemy, attacking from the other wing:

"Womanier Stuff"

"Biology is a socially constructed concept too - dated. It categorizes and defines ‘organisms’ a certain way - not wholistically - and not the only way possible, I might add."

"I am no science major, but I know Einstein’s theories and physics has already proven most of the fundamentals of biology to be faulty."

"It is not logical thought. What we were taught as logic is simply what we were taught and thus not logical, but you have to question it before you can see it as ‘not logical’. My views can be perceived as not ‘logical’ because they are deviating from taught beliefs. Logic doesn’t mean it makes sense. It means it follows a certain line of thinking. It is the certain line of thinking women have attempted to confront."

The assault on science, logic, and fact as "patriarchal" and "racist" continues to fester and slowly grow in damp corners of academe.

I recommend we stamp it out now, before it grows. These kind of false, but comforting [for losers] belief systems have a noxious way of growing into politically correct straight jackets -- I mean, who would ever think that a blatantly false system like multiculturalism would catch on?

Kill it before it grows.

h/t david thompson

398 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:51:36pm

re: #340 Dianna

I feel exactly the same.

How is it different from anything else?

My homeowner's insurance in Texas DOUBLED after the insurance companies lost their asses in Hurrican Andrew...because people built their houses in swamps and on the nice beach 5 feet above sea level.

You, jcm, me, and anyone else you know that somehow was convinced that you had to pay your own way through life will always get to pay for those that don't or won't take responsibility for themselves.

So, anyway...can I have my FEMA money now? I was in a hurricane, and like, some of my stuff got broken.

399 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:51:41pm

re: #353 Dar ul Harb

By the way, that was my suggested talking point, not something Gov. Palin actually said...

400 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:51:44pm

re: #345 EIDE_Interface

Yeah but I took it back once I learned more about her. So far Rich Lowry hasn't.

Why the hell would you call her and her family that? Despicable.

401 jacksontn  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:51:46pm

re: #367 katemaclaren

Not sure what you mean.

402 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:51:51pm

re: #387 Charles

It's not even just the questions. This wasn't any kind of live interview, it was pre-recorded and probably approved by both sides. It was packaged.

They usually are pre-recorded. But I agree that it looks too packaged. At least so far.

403 zombie  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:51:56pm

re: #392 neocon hippie

Ah, OK, thx!

404 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:52:01pm

The 20:1 hogs did get slaughtered, as they so richly deserved.

405 Catttt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:52:05pm

re: #368 zombie

Well put.

406 tronix  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:52:19pm

sharon stone should say at end of that commercial...I am a democrat.....time loss is brain loss when you're a demo

407 rorschach  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:52:22pm

...buzzsawmonkey and Sullivan?

408 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:52:29pm

OT: Hi Mama Winger.

409 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:52:39pm

re: #343 Charles

That's not what I meant -- I didn't expect much from Hannity and sure enough, softball questions all the way.

two of us?
I paid more attention to her "body language" because I watched that segment on O'Reilly earlier.

As I type, though, Rove is handing Skeletor his head.
I'm liking that.

410 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:52:39pm

re: #384 Alouette

I think she's doing just fine considering she was thrown in the shark tank on day one.

I think so too. It's partly her utter and total sincerity, and the fact that she is a principled person. She truly believes what she says.

411 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:52:53pm

re: #396 mfarmer1

You can always tell when someone really has the knowledge and facts behind their statements and when the other is just spouting off. I've never seen Alan pwned like that before. I felt bad for Skeletor.

I didn't.

412 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:52:55pm

9 days until the first debate- that is when we'll start seeing more real movement in the polls. A lot of Americans aren't paying attention to the politics at the moment, but they will watch the debates. Many undecideds will begin to move at that time.

413 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:52:59pm

Skeletor is an embarrassment. I saw some of that interview with the woman who survived the abortion last night and I wonder how this guy can look himself in the mirror. Although with that face, mirrors would be in short supply in my house.

414 LoFlyer  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:53:00pm

Guys, It's been a fun evening, and I appreciate the discussion. I saw Noam last week and we both remarked how fun LGF was through the conventions. I like the chemistry I am seeing between the "players" and its a lot of fun. Cheer up Charles, we will muddle through this election and set our country straight! Lots, of problems, lots of opportunities. Keep the faith!

415 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:53:07pm

re: #363 EIDE_Interface

Oh you just won't quit will you? No Christian charity in you.

Asshole.

416 Shug  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:53:10pm

re: #325 kellino

Sheez. The problem with the economy is "greed on Wall Street"?!?!

.

Yes, there has never ever been Greed on Wall Street until now

/

417 mama winger  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:53:18pm

re: #394 reine.de.tout

I just read this at Michelle Malkin about ACORN in NewMexico.


Here's the story on Wisconsin:

[Link: www.wisn.com...]

[Link: www.jsonline.com...]

418 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:54:07pm
419 mama winger  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:54:13pm

re: #408 experiencedtraveller

OT: Hi Mama Winger.

Hi back atcha :)

420 CommonCents  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:54:17pm

re: #348 Dianna

People are not that stupid.

They look around and see that they don't know people who are losing their jobs.

Indeed, and although people are having homes foreclosed, it's not like everyone is losing their house.

421 Killian Bundy  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:54:23pm

re: #368 zombie

And what miracle answers do Obama and Biden have?

/they're not Republicans, a bad economy almost always helps the party out of power

422 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:54:23pm

re: #342 jacksontn

Maybe but I am hoping Sarah Palin will be hailed as the most useful veep in history because if we don't pull this election off my kids daughters may be getting fitted for burkas.

During the Revolution 1/3 where loyalists, 1/3 sat and watched which way the winds blew, and 1/3 risk it all for Liberty and Union.

I have unbounded confidence in the 1/3 who will risk it all for Liberty.

1/3 watching will see the wind always blows toward liberty.

And remain 1/3/s ideas will be relegated to the ash heap of history.

423 Catttt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:54:25pm

re: #409 jwb7605

two of us?
I paid more attention to her "body language" because I watched that segment on O'Reilly earlier.

As I type, though, Rove is handing Skeletor his head.
I'm liking that.

It's been a long day, and my head hurts, but I thought she did ok. Nothing new or earthshaking though.

I liked her new hairdo.

424 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:54:32pm

While it's true that the financial collapse shouldn't have immediately benefited either campaign, McCain just HAD to step into the shit right off the bat with his gaffe. It was an unforced error, and that's how one loses elections. Remember Dukakis in the tank?

425 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:54:33pm

re: #415 MandyManners

He's just mad I didn't forget about it.

426 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:55:14pm
427 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:55:35pm

re: #417 mama winger

{Mama}

I bet Palin is cleaning up among all those fine Wisconsin ladies who keep their families together through the winter. She is as tough as they are, and as fair, and probably as ready with a hot dish as they are themselves.

428 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:55:53pm

For McCain defenders - how many days do you give him to mention his record on Fannie/Freddie?

429 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:55:54pm

Here is a line for a campaign speech or Ad.

Remeber the novel Catch-22? In the crazy world it depicts you could always go in to see Major Major Major Major, but only when he was out. The Democrats have produced the Major Major Energy Bill. It will allow you to drill for oil as long as you are over 50 miles away. That is to say it allows you to drill only where the oil may not be and where it costs to much to drill or where it is so far away it is only in a distant economic zone but not in our territorial waters at all. We have no time for jokes, we need to drill now. We need to drill safely. We need to drill respectfully. We need to drill in enough places that a hurricane can't shut us down.

430 Catttt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:56:00pm

re: #182 EIDE_Interface

Yes, you are missing something.

431 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:56:01pm

re: #357 Sharmuta

That you even used that rhetoric shows your an elitist yourself.

Hey! I'm an elitist snob, and I love Sarah Palin!

432 Naso Tang  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:56:03pm

re: #162 lawhawk

Expect subpoenas against Gawker and everyone up and down the line (Yahoo, ISP, etc.) to get to who posted originally and to catch the bastard who broke the law.

Of course, watch the hysterical left complain that law enforcement will somehow be infringing on the hacker's rights all while completely ignoring that the hacker was completely and totally breaking the law (and he knew he was breaking it - so much for an insanity defense because he knew the difference between right and wrong).

Maybe you missed Bill O on this tonight? He declared war. Said he was calling everybody he knew in Washington to arrest these people tomorrow, and if they didn't we would know who didn't.

Sounds like it might be fun.

433 katemaclaren  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:56:06pm

re: #401 jacksontn

Sorry, I meant the polling info--the good news.

Sorry also because I had one eye on the television watching Karl Rove taking Alan Colmes apart. Too bad Rove can't debate Obama. That would be smokin'.

434 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:56:12pm

re: #425 Sharmuta

He's just mad I didn't forget about it.

You remember irrelevant things. No focus on the BIG picture.

435 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:56:32pm

re: #375 mama winger

Wisconsin is really tightening up, and sure enough ACORN is out in force. There is a HUGE push right now for an investigation into voter fraud and of course the Dems are kicking and screaming about it being 'partisan'.

Since when did Fair Elections become a partisan issue?

One man - one vote. If someone gets to vote two or three times by cheating, it disenfranchises the people who abide by the law. If anything in this country is sacred, it is the security and validity of the ballot box. Otherwise we might as well be living in a third world dictatorship.

Sorry mama winger..I don't think Wisc. is in play.
not this year..
/which pisses me off.. but oh well..most of my family hail from there..

436 MeCurious  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:56:32pm

re: #372 Opinionated

Thanks, Opinionated. I just don't understand what it is about her that makes you think that she's not qualified. To me, she's more than qualified to lead.

437 kellino  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:56:39pm

re: #349 bnichols10

Yes, there are derrivates and complex risk calculations. My point is just that when these contracts/derrivates were purchased, I suspect most underestimated the inherent risk because the extent of bad debt in the subprime market was underestimated.

To the extent they were simply over-leveraged, yes I'll accept that that's greed.

But to blame eveything on Wall Street stikes me as too simplistic, and she could have mentioned the corruption at Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac, or the Clinton Era act that forced increases in subprime lending to high risk groups.

I get weary when any politician suggests that more government and/or regulation is the answer.

438 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:56:50pm

re: #407 rorschach

...buzzsawmonkey and Sullivan?

Has anyone ever seen them at the same time?

439 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:57:00pm

re: #424 EIDE_Interface

While it's true that the financial collapse shouldn't have immediately benefited either campaign, McCain just HAD to step into the shit right off the bat with his gaffe. It was an unforced error, and that's how one loses elections. Remember Dukakis in the tank?

lol,
relax, your extreme flailing is giving you away.

440 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:57:09pm

re: #432 Naso Tang

Maybe you missed Bill O on this tonight? He declared war. Said he was calling everybody he knew in Washington to arrest these people tomorrow, and if they didn't we would know who didn't.

Sounds like it might be fun.

Oh oh!@! I'm so scared of that creep.

441 mama winger  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:57:11pm

re: #427 godfrey

{Mama}

I bet Palin is cleaning up among all those fine Wisconsin ladies who keep their families together through the winter. She is as tough as they are, and as fair, and probably as ready with a hot dish as they are themselves.

Palin has a definite draw here in Wisconsin. We are hunters, we are winter people, we snowmobile and we ice fish. Our idea of dressing up is to put on our best parka and our new Green Bay Packers scarf. And that's to go to church :)

442 jacksontn  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:57:14pm

re: #422 jcm

During the Revolution 1/3 where loyalists, 1/3 sat and watched which way the winds blew, and 1/3 risk it all for Liberty and Union.

I have unbounded confidence in the 1/3 who will risk it all for Liberty.

1/3 watching will see the wind always blows toward liberty.

And remain 1/3/s ideas will be relegated to the ash heap of history.

Well, my family are locked and loaded down on the farm.

443 jones  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:57:25pm

re: #375 mama winger

Wisconsin is really tightening up, and sure enough ACORN is out in force. There is a HUGE push right now for an investigation into voter fraud and of course the Dems are kicking and screaming about it being 'partisan'.

Since when did Fair Elections become a partisan issue?

One man - one vote. If someone gets to vote two or three times by cheating, it disenfranchises the people who abide by the law. If anything in this country is sacred, it is the security and validity of the ballot box. Otherwise we might as well be living in a third world dictatorship.


And where is Biskupic? I want Leavenworth brimming!

444 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:57:32pm

re: #398 OldLineTexan

How is it different from anything else?

My homeowner's insurance in Texas DOUBLED after the insurance companies lost their asses in Hurrican Andrew...because people built their houses in swamps and on the nice beach 5 feet above sea level.

You, jcm, me, and anyone else you know that somehow was convinced that you had to pay your own way through life will always get to pay for those that don't or won't take responsibility for themselves.

So, anyway...can I have my FEMA money now? I was in a hurricane, and like, some of my stuff got broken.

In La, our homeowner's insurance now has a 1/2 of 1% regular deductible, and a separate "named storm" deductible that is 2% of insured amount.

re: FEMA - After Gustav, all the folks in the neighborhood helped everybody out and within a week, all the trees were cut up and the debris was picked up and piled by the road, and lawns were newly mowed. Except for the neighborhood resident lib - he told the Roi that he's waiting "until FEMA comes and gets rid of" his downed tree, and puts up his blue tarp.

445 Catttt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:58:05pm

re: #432 Naso Tang

Maybe you missed Bill O on this tonight? He declared war. Said he was calling everybody he knew in Washington to arrest these people tomorrow, and if they didn't we would know who didn't.

Sounds like it might be fun.

He was really angry, and he definitely has the old Irish temper.

I think the FBI is on the trail already, but if they're not, they should start now. :D

446 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:58:10pm

re: #437 kellino

I get weary when any politician suggests that more government and/or regulation is the answer.

You're in good company here.

447 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:58:28pm

re: #439 nyc redneck

lol,
relax, your extreme flailing is giving you away.

I've been feeling bummed for a week now. Ever since McCain praised Obama's "community organizer" record. At that point, I was speechless and beside msyelf in wonder how stupid a politician could be.

448 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:58:38pm

re: #417 mama winger

Thanks!

449 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:58:41pm

re: #425 Sharmuta

He's just mad I didn't forget about it.

LOL!

450 Naso Tang  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:58:51pm

re: #429 lifeofthemind

My understanding is that much of the offshore areas of interest, and off limits still, are not for oil but natural gas. Considerably more economical, and greener, in many ways than oil.

451 mama winger  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:59:19pm

re: #435 HoosierHoops

Sorry mama winger..I don't think Wisc. is in play.
not this year..

Oh but it is. Most definitely.

We had the tightest race last election of any other state I believe.
And we are mostly blue collar white folks. I think that's a good demographic for John McCain and Sarah Palin.

452 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:59:29pm

re: #446 godfrey

You're in good company here.

Yet that is exactly what McCain/Palin are pushing for. As of now, I have literally NO representation of my free-market ideals in either ticket.

453 BlueCanuck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:59:32pm

re: #428 EIDE_Interface

Blow it out your hole. I have never seen so much negativity on subject from a single poster until you showed up.

454 ErislDysnomia  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:59:43pm

re: #331 mfarmer1

The benefits far outweigh the risks to most patients .

Not so fast.

See sites like this and this.

The "electronic medical records will solve medicine's problems" is a canard to suck dollars from health care into IT.

455 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 6:59:47pm

re: #372 Opinionated

A highly qualified war hero running with a charming unqualified person with potential
Palin is highly qualified. She has 8 years more executive experience than the other 3 people on either ticket combined. 6 years as mayor of Alaska's 5th largest city and 2 years as governor of the unions largest state. Just because many people haven't heard of her does not make her unqualified for the job.

456 jacksontn  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:00:34pm

re: #433 katemaclaren

Sorry, I meant the polling info--the good news.

Sorry also because I had one eye on the television watching Karl Rove taking Alan Colmes apart. Too bad Rove can't debate Obama. That would be smokin'.

Jammiewearingfool told me

[Link: hamptonroads.com...]

457 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:00:45pm

re: #434 EIDE_Interface

You remember irrelevant things. No focus on the BIG picture.

It's not irrelevant to remember what you've said in the past considering all the hand wringing you're engaged in now. Obviously, none of us are focused on the "BIG picture" unless we are wringing our hands like you.

458 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:00:46pm

re: #373 MandyManners

What does that mean?

I'd like to know, too.

459 Moe Katz  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:00:55pm

re: #447 EIDE_Interface

I've been feeling bummed for a week now.

So you'll feel better by coming and bumming everyone else out too?

460 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:01:03pm

re: #452 EIDE_Interface

Could be smoke. Say you're for more regulation, but then only pass innocuous ones.

461 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:01:05pm

re: #447 EIDE_Interface

I've been feeling bummed for a week now. Ever since McCain praised Obama's "community organizer" record. At that point, I was speechless and beside msyelf in wonder how stupid a politician could be.

why don't you open a beer and shut up?

462 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:01:09pm

re: #433 katemaclaren

Sorry, I meant the polling info--the good news.

Sorry also because I had one eye on the television watching Karl Rove taking Alan Colmes apart. Too bad Rove can't debate Obama. That would be smokin'.

I'd give my X's left nut to see that.

463 mama winger  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:01:27pm

I have to get back to the ballgame.

Cubs could clinch it tomorrow but I am kinda hoping that the Brewers make a little fight of it because , well

I hate those dang mets.

hate em

464 Reality_Wrangler  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:01:40pm

Holy shi-ite, Rove just castrated alan combs on Obama's Fannie connections:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

465 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:01:40pm

Isn't it amazing that some hack can get Palin's email, yet MSM can't get Obama's Bar records or ACORN info or Ayer's details or...

466 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:01:45pm

re: #452 EIDE_Interface

Yet that is exactly what McCain/Palin are pushing for. As of now, I have literally NO representation of my free-market ideals in either ticket.

And you wonder why I keep calling you a moby.

467 katemaclaren  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:01:59pm

re: #416 Shug

Yes, there has never ever been Greed on Wall Street until now

/

Greed is good, isn't it?

Youtube Video

468 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:02:05pm

re: #442 jacksontn

Well, my family are locked and loaded down on the farm.

Well, I'm ready also. However we still have along way to go.

The body of Declaration of Independence lays out the casus belli for invoking the ultimate usage of the 2nd Amend. We've miles to travel before that point.

469 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:02:11pm

It's just another day on the campaign trail... mudslinging, ignorant statements, missteps, stupidity, and criminality. Something for everyone... A scandal in every pot. (or is it pot in every... *poof*)

470 Naso Tang  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:02:28pm

re: #440 EIDE_Interface

Oh oh!@! I'm so scared of that creep.

/So; you must be a Larry King person then?

471 BlueCanuck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:02:37pm

re: #447 EIDE_Interface

Need to get your sarcasm filter checked. It appears to be a little faulty.

472 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:02:40pm

re: #444 reine.de.tout

In La, our homeowner's insurance now has a 1/2 of 1% regular deductible, and a separate "named storm" deductible that is 2% of insured amount.

re: FEMA - After Gustav, all the folks in the neighborhood helped everybody out and within a week, all the trees were cut up and the debris was picked up and piled by the road, and lawns were newly mowed. Except for the neighborhood resident lib - he told the Roi that he's waiting "until FEMA comes and gets rid of" his downed tree, and puts up his blue tarp.

He refused to help himself?!

473 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:02:58pm

re: #460 godfrey

Could be smoke. Say you're for more regulation, but then only pass innocuous ones.

Is that how Reagan campaigned in 1980? No, he promised to reduce taxes and regulations. He didn't demonize rich people.

474 kellino  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:03:49pm

re: #368 zombie

And what miracle answers do Obama and Biden have?

Zilch.

Agreed. Not even a question that McCain/Palin are 1000% better than the hyper-socialism and quasi-Marxism of Obama/Biden.

But I still don't have to be thilled about the prospect of bigger government or to simplisitcally characterize the current problems as "Wall Street greed".

I may change my mind as McCain/Palin offer more details on their plans, but I don't care for how she characterised the economic issues tonight.

475 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:04:14pm

re: #466 Sharmuta

And you wonder why I keep calling you a moby.

It seems very similar in views to a mody who's been blocked by i think 3 different usernames already.

476 pingjockey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:04:19pm

re: #472 MandyManners
Sounds like a true lib!

477 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:04:24pm

re: #473 EIDE_Interface

Politics. What, you think Obama will be more market-friendly?

lol

478 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:04:25pm

re: #471 BlueCanuck

Need to get your sarcasm filter checked. It appears to be a little faulty.

I wasn't sarcastic. I was shocked that McCain would undercut Rudy and Palin one week afterwards like that.

479 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:04:35pm

re: #417 mama winger

So good to see you!

480 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:04:44pm

re: #458 Dianna

I'd like to know, too.

It's not answered.

481 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:04:58pm
482 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:05:03pm

re: #474 kellino

Agreed. Not even a question that McCain/Palin are 1000% better than the hyper-socialism and quasi-Marxism of Obama/Biden.

But I still don't have to be thilled about the prospect of bigger government or to simplisitcally characterize the current problems as "Wall Street greed".

I may change my mind as McCain/Palin offer more details on their plans, but I don't care for how she characterised the economic issues tonight.

Careful, Sharmuta will call you a moby for daring to criticize Palin.

483 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:05:49pm

re: #477 godfrey

Politics. What, you think Obama will be more market-friendly?

lol

Uh did I say that? Obama is a communist. McCain is an opportunist who has no true free market ideals. There is no Reagan who is a true believer in supply side.

484 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:05:58pm

This email hacking story, even if the Obama camp had nothing to do with it, is of a piece with the way the press has been piling on Gov. Palin for Obama since she was announced as V.P., and should be worth a few points in the polls as it gets major play. It's a story even the politically disinterested can understand, and it doesn't play well for The Obama. If the culprits (more than just having sympathies for) actually have ties to the Obama campaign, then we're in e-Watergate territory.

Obama better hope nobody on his side starts a coverup (other than the MSM, of course).

485 Racer X  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:06:04pm

re: #473 EIDE_Interface

Is that how Reagan campaigned in 1980? No, he promised to reduce taxes and regulations. He didn't demonize rich people.

Bob Barr? Is that you?

486 alien_mind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:06:15pm

Rove squashed that despicable Colmes like a festering pimple.

487 BlueCanuck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:06:16pm

re: #478 EIDE_Interface

Don't you think that McCain was being a little sarcastic in praising his Community Organizer opponent?

/sheesh, some people

488 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:06:35pm

re: #483 EIDE_Interface

So there's no Reagan. Welcome to 2008. What are you going to to do?

489 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:06:37pm
490 Merrittk92  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:07:00pm

Did she just say (last segment) that she dressed-up as Tina Fey one year for Halloween? Touche!

491 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:07:06pm

re: #482 EIDE_Interface

Oh, go piss up a rope.

492 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:07:09pm

re: #444 reine.de.tout

In La, our homeowner's insurance now has a 1/2 of 1% regular deductible, and a separate "named storm" deductible that is 2% of insured amount.

re: FEMA - After Gustav, all the folks in the neighborhood helped everybody out and within a week, all the trees were cut up and the debris was picked up and piled by the road, and lawns were newly mowed. Except for the neighborhood resident lib - he told the Roi that he's waiting "until FEMA comes and gets rid of" his downed tree, and puts up his blue tarp.

Yes, the 2% thing is not new, but recent. Nice, eh?

I refuse to mow the yard until the gas lines recede...despite the 6 gallon tank in the garage. My downed tree parts are stacked and waiting for the county (HA HA HA HA in advance), but I confess my broken fence is still right where it fell.

And I am buying a generator (like the next 6000W I see), which should pretty much prevent any more hurricanes from hitting us...Nature abhors a vacuum, and she definitely likes to make me look stupid.

493 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:07:15pm

re: #487 BlueCanuck

Don't you think that McCain was being a little sarcastic in praising his Community Organizer opponent?

/sheesh, some people

I have no idea. Conservative blogs and talk radio picked up on it like he was serious. I didn't watch the original video.

494 jacksontn  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:07:30pm

re: #484 Dar ul Harb

This email hacking story, even if the Obama camp had nothing to do with it, is of a piece with the way the press has been piling on Gov. Palin for Obama since she was announced as V.P., and should be worth a few points in the polls as it gets major play. It's a story even the politically disinterested can understand, and it doesn't play well for The Obama. If the culprits (more than just having sympathies for) actually have ties to the Obama campaign, then we're in e-Watergate territory.

Obama better hope nobody on his side starts a coverup (other than the MSM, of course).

If they would just show the little ass kid that did it doing a perp walk that would get on tv. That would be about the only thing that would make them cover the story for any amount of time.

495 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:07:35pm

re: #464 Reality_Wrangler

Holy shi-ite, Rove just castrated alan combs on Obama's Fannie connections:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

What was amusing was that Skeletor didn't seem to get the point.
seriously.did.not.understand.

496 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:07:39pm

re: #466 Sharmuta

And you wonder why I keep calling you a moby.

it's a moby, look how it has tried to hijack the thread w/ this phony over wrought hysteria, lol.

497 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:07:39pm
A group called the Center for Responsive Politics keeps track of which politicians get Fannie and Freddie political contributions. The top three U.S. senators getting big Fannie and Freddie political bucks were Democrats and No. 2 is Sen. Barack Obama.

Why did he get so much?

498 pingjockey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:07:41pm

re: #486 alien_mind
I'm sorry I missed it. Saw Palin, then homework time for the 3rd grader. So I didn't see skeletor get shredded. :(

499 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:07:47pm

re: #462 MandyManners

+1 for the humor value alone, Mandy.

500 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:08:40pm

re: #490 Merrittk92

Did she just say (last segment) that she dressed-up as Tina Fey one year for Halloween? Touche!

AND she called the skit "spot on". But there was more genuine Canadian in the accent.

501 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:08:48pm

re: #496 nyc redneck

it's a moby, look how it has tried to hijack the thread w/ this phony over wrought hysteria, lol.

I'm not hysterical. I'm just upset like MANY other conservatives at this ridiculous socialist pandering. Do you think no others are upset like me today?

502 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:08:52pm

re: #434 EIDE_Interface

The problem is that your focus is so very down, that you're making a lot of people angry. I don't understand what's the matter with you. You're not seeing the big picture, either, unless it's painted in shades of black.

503 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:09:12pm

re: #451 mama winger

Oh but it is. Most definitely.

We had the tightest race last election of any other state I believe.
And we are mostly blue collar white folks. I think that's a good demographic for John McCain and Sarah Palin.

Nice to talk to you mama.. Like i said..most of my family is from wisc. I have a cabin on Lake Tamahawk that i fish at 5 weeks a year..
I LOVE WISC!
/anyhoo.. I bet you a trillion dollars in the general election it goes Obama..:)
Regards

504 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:09:32pm

re: #462 MandyManners

I'd give my X's left nut to see that.

And what else do you have in the fridge to trade?

505 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:09:35pm

re: #501 EIDE_Interface

I'm not hysterical. I'm just upset like MANY other conservatives at this ridiculous socialist pandering. Do you think no others are upset like me today?

none, acting like you.

506 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:09:47pm

re: #450 Naso Tang

My understanding is that much of the offshore areas of interest, and off limits still, are not for oil but natural gas. Considerably more economical, and greener, in many ways than oil.

Didn't you hear, Obama has that covered too? It is a riff on his tire inflation policy, he is going to order everyone to eat out once a week at special multicultural restaurants. That should produce enough natural gas to eliminate all new drilling for at least 10 years or until wind power comes online. The tricky part will be teaching everyone to use the new output collection stations.
/science is your friend

507 Opinionated  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:09:53pm

re: #455 Neo Con since 9-11

A highly qualified war hero running with a charming unqualified person with potential

Palin is highly qualified. She has 8 years more executive experience than the other 3 people on either ticket combined. 6 years as mayor of Alaska's 5th largest city and 2 years as governor of the unions largest state. Just because many people haven't heard of her does not make her unqualified for the job.

If I laugh at the nonsense I hear from Democrats, I am not going to be a hypocrite when it comes from my side.

It's laugh out loud funny- sad some may say- to sell a VP candidate for her experience as a mayor or a tiny Alaskan town. Or for less then two years as a Governor.

As long as our not qualified candidate is running for the second spot and theirs is running for the top spot, we come out ahead.

In tonight's interview Palin said she discussed her VP duties with McCain. Concentrating on children with disabilities and "energy policy". Sounds good.

What isn't good is if something happens to the President and she has to deal with Iran and Putin and N Korea and the economy going to hell and Hamas and ................................

508 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:09:54pm

re: #502 Dianna

The problem is that your focus is so very down, that you're making a lot of people angry. I don't understand what's the matter with you. You're not seeing the big picture, either, unless it's painted in shades of black.

I see a red door and I want it painted black.

509 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:10:10pm

So EIDE, what'll it be? No Reagan. 2008. What's your choice?

510 jacksontn  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:10:14pm

re: #502 Dianna

The problem is that your focus is so very down, that you're making a lot of people angry. I don't understand what's the matter with you. You're not seeing the big picture, either, unless it's painted in shades of black.

You said black? Racist!

/

511 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:10:26pm

re: #509 godfrey

So EIDE, what'll it be? No Reagan. 2008. What's your choice?

Ron Paul!

512 bill-tb  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:10:28pm

The lady is clearly the champ.

Palin for Pres ...

513 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:10:48pm

re: #504 OldLineTexan

And what else do you have in the fridge to trade?

Fridge? I have it mounted over my mantel.

514 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:10:52pm
515 jamgarr  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:11:15pm

I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison
And I went to pick her up in the rain

516 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:11:41pm

I think Todd converted Greta.

517 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:11:53pm

I'm still voting for McCain, but I don't think he'll win swing voters by being Obama-lite. He needs to turn OFF the socialism and turn ON the Reaganism.

518 mama winger  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:12:08pm

re: #514 taxfreekiller

Of some note:

Keep in mind it is not just a common thing for someone like Sarah Palin to get inside the cult, many have tried, many have been turned, many have
been destroyed total in the effort, and some never recover from the damage done for the effort. Just the fact you got to see her do this is a crack in the cult's power.

To gain power in Alaska as she did is a very, very hard road, its never done, the party hacks cut people down so fast and so hard most never stick their heads up to be chopped.

One Sarah Plain, then two, then three, support them all we can in every way every day, ya some will not measure up, but it is the only way out of this evil ass two party money cult that has its hand around our children's neck before they are born.

Have faith in ourselves is all it takes.

BLESS YOU TFK ! Exactly right! Hurrah!

519 Shug  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:12:17pm

re: #516 MandyManners

I think Todd converted Greta.

Tight butts drive Greta Nuts

520 mama winger  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:12:40pm

bbl

521 Moe Katz  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:12:42pm

re: #491 MandyManners

Oh, go piss up a rope.

On another forum I used to frequent a lady who was from Spain would tell those who deserved it to go fart in a tanjara.

522 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:13:02pm
523 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:13:09pm

re: #519 Shug

Tight butts drive Greta Nuts

Same here.

524 neocon hippie  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:13:14pm

re: #393 JammieWearingFool

Exactly. He has to waste resources shoring up states that should be slam dunks and McCain is holding all of Bush's states and will probably pick off a couple of blues.

I'm confident.

For all the shit I've been through in my life, if I sat around being a worry-wart I'd probably never leave the house.

Will McCain hold Iowa? Seems like many folks think it's Obama's and not a lot of talk of it being a swing state. And you're confident that McCain will hold CO and NM?

525 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:13:36pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

Great job!
Multiple up-dings, if it were allowed.

526 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:13:37pm

re: #517 EIDE_Interface

I'm still voting for McCain, but I don't think he'll win swing voters by being Obama-lite. He needs to turn OFF the socialism and turn ON the Reaganism.

Stop being himself?
I'll take his brand of socialism over Obama's any day.
Remember ... he advised Reagan NOT to put troops in Lebanon.

They all make mistakes.

527 jacksontn  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:13:40pm

re: #519 Shug

Tight butts drive Greta Nuts

Speaking of butts....why do men's butt disappear as they get older and (usually) women's get bigger?

528 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:13:43pm

re: #521 Moe Katz

On another forum I used to frequent a lady who was from Spain would tell those who deserved it to go fart in a tanjara.

What is a tanjara?

529 Naso Tang  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:13:49pm

re: #506 lifeofthemind

The tricky part will be teaching everyone to use the new output collection stations.

Actually, FEMA already has that covered. For no down payment they have an unlimited supply of portapotties to finance at favorable terms to someone.

530 pingjockey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:13:57pm

re: #507 Opinionated
Just how much experience did billy jeff, GW, jimmah, have when it came to that kind of shit? RWR had some cause Cali had/has the worlds' 8th largest economy on it's own. GWHB had a bunch cause he'd been CIA chief. What qualifications did Harry Truman have to run WWII before Roosevelt died. 99 out of 100 no one has that kind of experience.

531 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:14:08pm

Ok trying to catch up.

Would like my fellow lizards unbiased and honest opinion of how Palin did tonight.

With a 10 being the best and a 1 the worst, please reply with a number.

Thanks!

532 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:14:15pm

re: #465 ciaospirit

Isn't it amazing that some hack can get Palin's email, yet MSM can't get Obama's Bar records or ACORN info or Ayer's details or...

A very pertinent point.

533 katemaclaren  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:14:35pm

Well, I MUST get this East Coast bod into the bed. Five classes tomorrow. To infinity and beyond, lizards. Night Night.

534 Moe Katz  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:15:11pm

re: #528 MandyManners

What is a tanjara?

It's a cooking pot or type of cooking pot in European Spanish.

535 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:15:14pm

re: #501 EIDE_Interface

I'm not hysterical. I'm just upset like MANY other conservatives at this ridiculous socialist pandering. Do you think no others are upset like me today?

You have tried to bait me and most of the people in here one at a time. If you are just trying to keep a pure flame you are doing a lousy job of it. So sit down and think about it because this is getting ugly.

536 godfrey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:15:29pm
What isn't good is if something happens to the President and she has to deal with Iran and Putin and N Korea and the economy going to hell and Hamas and ...

No one can foresee everything. She'll have first-rate people around her. What counts in decision-making is what's inside her. What I've seen is that she's smart, she has guts, she competes, she doesn't sit down, and she has excellent bs detection. She also loves honor, duty, and goodness. Those are good qualities in a leader, and her record shows (unlike Obama's) that she is one. I think she'll do just fine.

537 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:15:45pm

re: #535 lifeofthemind

You have tried to bait me and most of the people in here one at a time. If you are just trying to keep a pure flame you are doing a lousy job of it. So sit down and think about it because this is getting ugly.

I do need to calm down. I will wear myself out at this rate.

538 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:15:53pm

re: #531 Typicalwhitey

Ok trying to catch up.

Would like my fellow lizards unbiased and honest opinion of how Palin did tonight.

With a 10 being the best and a 1 the worst, please reply with a number.

Thanks!

present.
Sean "Softball" Hannity did the interview.
Ask me if Brit Hume does one.

539 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:16:21pm
540 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:17:04pm

re: #475 Neo Con since 9-11

EIDE Interface is an old-timer who was out for a while.

He's not Rodan (I still think I was first to call that one a moby).

541 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:17:26pm

To those who would dismiss Gov. Palin's qualifications, I offer this:

"I am obliged to confess that I should sooner live in a society governed by the first two thousand names in the Boston telephone directory than a society governed by the two thousand faculty members of Harvard University."
--William F. Buckley, Jr., ca. 1963

542 Intrepid  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:17:43pm

re: #393 JammieWearingFool

Why the loss of Iowa, though? That one I don't get.

543 pingjockey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:17:48pm

re: #538 jwb7605
Well, she didn't ask a man in wheelchair to stand up. So that's to the good.

544 spypeach  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:18:05pm

So it seems on Greta, that the "lawyers" seem more concerned with business conducted on private email then the fact that some scumbags hacked them. This will be worse then troopergate, MSM will run with this and she'll have to spend the next two weeks defending herself. Just disgraceful. I didn't think anyone could be hated more then Bush, but it seems like they've just shifted their hate right to her. What a shameful lot.

545 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:18:12pm

re: #534 Moe Katz

It's a cooking pot or type of cooking pot in European Spanish.

Go fart in a pot?!

546 Moe Katz  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:18:49pm

re: #540 Dianna

EIDE Interface is an old-timer who was out for a while.

He's not Rodan (I still think I was first to call that one a moby).

He's not getting to where people are at. He's interacting by being provocative.

547 jacksontn  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:18:51pm

re: #542 Intrepid

Why the loss of Iowa, though? That one I don't get.

Pre-Rev. Wright and corn.

548 Moe Katz  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:19:25pm

re: #545 MandyManners

Go fart in a pot?!

Yes, this is a great Andalusian insult!

549 jharada  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:19:30pm

lol

Rove hit Alan with his Beuford Pusser stick across his melon. That was classic.


Alan you are embarrassing yourself - Rove

550 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:19:39pm

re: #537 EIDE_Interface

I do need to calm down. I will wear myself out at this rate.

I am not the groupthink poster in here. When I have a position to defend I do not hit others with two line snark bites, That is for fun when everyone agrees, mostly. To do serious work do your homework lay out a few paragraphs and give sources, then let everyone tear in to you. No reason not to make the discussion more thoughtful.

551 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:20:10pm

re: #544 spypeach

So it seems on Greta, that the "lawyers" seem more concerned with business conducted on private email then the fact that some scumbags hacked them. This will be worse then troopergate, MSM will run with this and she'll have to spend the next two weeks defending herself. Just disgraceful. I didn't think anyone could be hated more then Bush, but it seems like they've just shifted their hate right to her. What a shameful lot.

Aren't those attorneys liberals? I know Alred is.

552 alien_mind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:20:31pm

re: #531 Typicalwhitey
8

553 katemaclaren  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:20:39pm

Greta is going to show Sarah at a Town Hall meeting tonight--thinking and speaking on her feet--no teleprompter, no notes. I'm interested. So, I guess I will stay up a wee bit longer.

554 Opinionated  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:20:45pm

re: #530 pingjockey

I didn't vote for either Billy or Jimmy, did you? Although in both cases their experience in office and in Carter's case the military, dwarfed Palin.

True, Truman stepped up- and Palin may too- although we hope it never happens in McCain's term.

An inexperienced intern may do a great job in an emergency medical procedure on you, but given the choice prior to the emergency would you pick that intern to give you care if it was needed or an experienced surgeon.

555 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:21:02pm

re: #543 pingjockey

Well, she didn't ask a man in wheelchair to stand up. So that's to the good.

Men in wheelchairs will stand for her.
/(that needs to be added to the "Chuck Norris" comment pile)

556 pingjockey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:21:06pm

re: #544 spypeach
The Palin campaign released a statement along the lines of the hackers have been/are being referred to the proper authorities and that is all they're gonna say about it. I hope so.

557 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:21:21pm

re: #493 EIDE_Interface

Then stop talking about it! Honestly, what is the matter with you? Go watch the video, and form your own opinion.

558 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:21:25pm

re: #548 Moe Katz

Yes, this is a great Andalusian insult!

My giant rabbit remembers al-Andalus, and still has a giant key to the shed where he kept his farting pot.

/sniff

559 big steve  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:22:05pm

Don't know if anyone has glanced at the Kos math on the electoral possibilities but actually he accidentally helps McCain's case. You have to wade through and check the math because he is playing a little hide the salami but he starts with Obama having 211 electoral votes in the bag and McCain 178. Then he notes that Obama has to win the "Kerry won states" of NH, MI, MN, and WI which add 41 to Obama giving him 252. (have to have 270 to win). He thinks Obama takes Iowa so add 7 more to make 259. But then he pretty much concedes Florida, Montana, North Carolina, Ohio, Indiana, and Nevada to McCain which total 81 votes. So at this point it is 259 for Obama and 259 for McCain which KOS doesn't mention, he just puffs up his chest and says "all we have to win is 11 more" failing to note that that is exactly what McCain also has to win by his own math. This basically leaves three states Colorado, New Mexico and Virginia and KOS's poll numbers show them all a toss up but since none are "blue" states historically......well. And this is all with heavily slanted expectations.

560 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:22:15pm

re: #554 Opinionated

I didn't vote for either Billy or Jimmy, did you? Although in both cases their experience in office and in Carter's case the military, dwarfed Palin.

True, Truman stepped up- and Palin may too- although we hope it never happens in McCain's term.

An inexperienced intern may do a great job in an emergency medical procedure on you, but given the choice prior to the emergency would you pick that intern to give you care if it was needed or an experienced surgeon.


I would pick the experienced one.

Which is MCCAIN.
You don't think that Obama is more experienced than McCain do you?

561 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:22:43pm

re: #558 OldLineTexan

My giant rabbit remembers al-Andalus, and still has a giant key to the shed where he kept his farting pot.

/sniff

Harvey?

562 olderthandirt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:23:06pm

SP did a good job tonight answering Hannity's questions. McCain and Palin are running well against Obama Biden so why is anyone panicking tonight? Or, is that so-called panic a feint by The One's Trolls? My vote is "yes!" After today, it's 47-days to the election, plenty of time for things to go either right or wrong for either set of candidates. Have faith in McCain and Palin.

563 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:24:11pm

re: #559 big steve
I see you made it out of the storm big steve..
how goes it?

564 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:24:31pm

re: #540 Dianna

EIDE Interface is an old-timer who was out for a while.

He's not Rodan (I still think I was first to call that one a moby).

He better not be Rodan.

/spit

565 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:24:31pm

re: #513 MandyManners

Fridge? I have it mounted over my mantel.

I thought it was the whole package?

566 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:24:57pm

re: #561 lifeofthemind

Harvey?

No, I no longer drink, and I never drank that much. ;)

I just couldn't remember the giant Hamas rabbit's name to tie it all together.

567 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:25:07pm

re: #472 MandyManners

He refused to help himself?!

Yes. Or help anyone else. He's waiting for FEMA, lol!

He also watched one day as my hubby and two teen neighbors cut down a tree in my neighbor's yard - the tree needed to come down, and the kids wanted the firewood, so the 3 of 'em took it down.

When the work was finished, the guy comes up to my husband and asked if he could have some of the wood for his fireplace! Then he got really really upset when my husband told him that the wood was spoken for, and that if he had wanted some, he should have come to help.

Idiot scavenger parasite.

568 pingjockey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:26:14pm

re: #554 Opinionated
My first election was RWR. Missed voting in '76 by a year. There is no place on earth, except the Oval Office to get the experience you're speaking of. There is no school for President. You don't get to be a resident and study great surgeons. TR was a year older than Palin and a governor when he was tapped for veep. Most great CEOs that are experienced at decision making don't want to be Prez. Think Iacocca. They don't want have to deal with the nitwits in Congress. I don't blame them either.

569 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:26:16pm

re: #559 big steve

Don't know if anyone has glanced at the Kos math on the electoral possibilities but actually he accidentally helps McCain's case. You have to wade through and check the math because he is playing a little hide the salami but he starts with Obama having 211 electoral votes in the bag and McCain 178. Then he notes that Obama has to win the "Kerry won states" of NH, MI, MN, and WI which add 41 to Obama giving him 252. (have to have 270 to win). He thinks Obama takes Iowa so add 7 more to make 259. But then he pretty much concedes Florida, Montana, North Carolina, Ohio, Indiana, and Nevada to McCain which total 81 votes. So at this point it is 259 for Obama and 259 for McCain which KOS doesn't mention, he just puffs up his chest and says "all we have to win is 11 more" failing to note that that is exactly what McCain also has to win by his own math. This basically leaves three states Colorado, New Mexico and Virginia and KOS's poll numbers show them all a toss up but since none are "blue" states historically......well. And this is all with heavily slanted expectations.

WA with 11 is in play also leaning Obama, but don't count out dissatisfaction with the (D) establishment in Wa.

It may come down to late counted mall in ballots in WA.

570 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:26:33pm

re: #492 OldLineTexan

Yes, the 2% thing is not new, but recent. Nice, eh?

I refuse to mow the yard until the gas lines recede...despite the 6 gallon tank in the garage. My downed tree parts are stacked and waiting for the county (HA HA HA HA in advance), but I confess my broken fence is still right where it fell.

And I am buying a generator (like the next 6000W I see), which should pretty much prevent any more hurricanes from hitting us...Nature abhors a vacuum, and she definitely likes to make me look stupid.

You'll be glad you have the generator.
I carry 4 umbrellas in my car at all times, which guarantees it will not rain LOL!

571 yesandno  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:27:10pm

re: #391 arethusa

Alan Colmes and Karl Rove are arguing about which campaign has more questionable folks in it and Colmes finally yelled, "McCain has more lobbyists!"

That's intelligent political discourse, folks.

No, that is political equivlency....

25 men who make $100 each on the office pool are somehow equal to the one man that took $10Million from off the top. Both are not right, but there is a difference in degree.

Can't wait for Rush's take on the Skelator take down by Rove. It should be a hoot.

572 Opinionated  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:27:36pm

re: #560 Typicalwhitey

Read my first post #372

For months we ridiculed Obama inexperience and his being unqualified.

Now without a moment hesitation Republicans are pretending Palin is qualified.

In my opinion the VP- who may be President on Inauguration day if something had happened to the President-elect- should be as qualified as the President.

I remember how much contempt I had for the Democrats when Mondale picked Ferraro and they pretended she was qualified. As a matter of pride I want to be consistent in my opinions.

573 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:27:59pm
574 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:28:07pm

re: #565 Dianna

I thought it was the whole package?

Nah. Just his nuts.

575 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:28:39pm

re: #507 Opinionated
Most of what you said I agree with but

It's laugh out loud funny- sad some may say- to sell a VP candidate for her experience as a mayor or a tiny Alaskan town. Or for less then two years as a Governor.


I'm getting a bit tired of anti small town insults this election but maybe I'm bitter and clingy.

What isn't good is if something happens to the President and she has to deal with Iran and Putin and N Korea and the economy going to hell and Hamas and ................................


This is actually where as an executive has the most experience of any of the candidates. That executive of a small town does have experience negotiating with other executives. Senators have no authority. to negotiate with any one outside their own city or state.

576 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:29:10pm

re: #567 reine.de.tout

Yes. Or help anyone else. He's waiting for FEMA, lol!

He also watched one day as my hubby and two teen neighbors cut down a tree in my neighbor's yard - the tree needed to come down, and the kids wanted the firewood, so the 3 of 'em took it down.

When the work was finished, the guy comes up to my husband and asked if he could have some of the wood for his fireplace! Then he got really really upset when my husband told him that the wood was spoken for, and that if he had wanted some, he should have come to help.

Idiot scavenger parasite.

If his house were on fire, would he wait for the firefighters to get him out of the house?

577 mich-again  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:29:13pm

re: #544 spypeach

I didn't think anyone could be hated more then Bush, but it seems like they've just shifted their hate right to her. What a shameful lot.

Yep. The BDS orcs needed a new focal point.

578 EIDE_Interface  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:29:28pm

re: #550 lifeofthemind

I am not the groupthink poster in here. When I have a position to defend I do not hit others with two line snark bites, That is for fun when everyone agrees, mostly. To do serious work do your homework lay out a few paragraphs and give sources, then let everyone tear in to you. No reason not to make the discussion more thoughtful.

I'll keep that in mind.

579 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:30:01pm

re: #546 Moe Katz

I find him worrying; he wasn't like this before, and I just don't understand what's going on, here.

580 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:30:03pm

re: #531 Typicalwhitey

Ok trying to catch up.

Would like my fellow lizards unbiased and honest opinion of how Palin did tonight.

With a 10 being the best and a 1 the worst, please reply with a number.

Thanks!

i give sarah a 10.
i give hannity an 8. he shot gunned the questions too fast.
sarah looked attractive, wearing a skirt. she was poised. had great answers. very personable.

581 HDrepub  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:30:06pm

re: #551 MandyManners

re: #544 spypeach

So it seems on Greta, that the "lawyers" seem more concerned with business conducted on private email then the fact that some scumbags hacked them. This will be worse then troopergate, MSM will run with this and she'll have to spend the next two weeks defending herself. Just disgraceful. I didn't think anyone could be hated more then Bush, but it seems like they've just shifted their hate right to her. What a shameful lot.

Aren't those attorneys liberals? I know Alred is.

Didn't you read the the hackers report, there was nothing business like in the emails, nothing.

I read though the emails… ALL OF THEM… before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor…. And pictures of her family

582 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:30:21pm

Hey EIDE_Interface:

Would it cheer you up at all to remember what they were doing to Gen. Petraeus, and how similar that is to what they're doing to Sarah Palin?

And how McCain slugged through the whole mess supporting Petraeus, and is now slugging through the whole mess supporting Palin?

And then how public opinion of him turned around to the point where conservatives "overlooked" some of his obvious failings (to us)?

Remember, a week in politics is an eternity.
Maybe McCain knows what he's doing!
Hang in there. Have another hit (of sweet air).

583 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:30:23pm

re: #573 buzzsawmonkey

You must have to deal with a lot of ribbing.

LOL.
Yes.
You know, I sit here and read everything you write, and I see things and think, "That was a good one, I'll have to remember that!"

But I can't. Not only can I not make things up, I can't even remember them for future use.
I'm a failure at small talk, idle chit-chat, and general bonhomie.

584 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:30:26pm

re: #214 EIDE_Interface

Charles, no need to be so negative.

Forgot your sarc tag, did you? LOL

585 big steve  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:30:56pm

re: #563 HoosierHoops

I see you made it out of the storm big steve..
how goes it?

My family and I are fine. House did well although we had water blow in some mysterious crack and soak about 6 square feet of carpet which in wife logic means the whole downstairs carpet is getting redone. (She found a crack of daylight and ran with it!) Otherwise damage in the town I live in was very bad with lots of houses hit by trees. I got power back Monday night but they are estimating that most will be out another week. I have spent most days volunteering for chainsaw crews. Some how got hooked up with a Billy Graham outfit that drove from Ontario California just to help. Not a lot of whining yet, most people are just working to get things back. The local starbucks opened tonight. Some may laugh but just a little bit of luxury after all this actually does help.

586 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:31:04pm

re: #576 MandyManners

If his house were on fire, would he wait for the firefighters to get him out of the house?

Hm. We haven't tried that one yet . . .

587 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:31:25pm

re: #581 HDrepub

re: #544 spypeach


Didn't you read the the hackers report, there was nothing business like in the emails, nothing.

I read though the emails… ALL OF THEM… before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor…. And pictures of her family

Did the attorneys not read the report?

588 hazzyday  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:31:31pm

re: #196 mfarmer1

If you can sift the password off a network sniffer or download the hashed password off a Yahoo Server to your laptop. Then you can spend all day running a password cracker program against the password. While in your bedroom.

589 Moe Katz  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:31:44pm

re: #579 Dianna

I find him worrying; he wasn't like this before, and I just don't understand what's going on, here.

This isn't the first time lately he's been like that. Maybe we should take him at his word, that he's a bit depressed.

590 Opinionated  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:31:47pm

re: #575 Neo Con since 9-11

It's not an insult to small towns. It's an innate characteristic of being small.

A small business owner has more executive experience and more issues cross his/her desk then most tiny town mayors.

591 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:32:07pm

Speaking of the financial markets collapse, when skilled investigators start unfolding those mega-mortgage bundles and find out how many fraudulent ratings were being passed up the river, the number of licensed professionals that could end up in prison could be a staggering number.

This is SO not comparable to the pie-in-the-sky greed involved in the Penn Square Bank collapse, which was a story all its own, but orders of magnitude smaller and less criminal than this incident, which was behind sky-high property costs in communities across the country.

Many, many heads should roll, including some in Congress.

592 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:32:31pm

re: #572 Opinionated

Read my first post #372

For months we ridiculed Obama inexperience and his being unqualified.

Now without a moment hesitation Republicans are pretending Palin is qualified.

In my opinion the VP- who may be President on Inauguration day if something had happened to the President-elect- should be as qualified as the President.

I remember how much contempt I had for the Democrats when Mondale picked Ferraro and they pretended she was qualified. As a matter of pride I want to be consistent in my opinions.

TR had the same qualifications when McKinley picked him.

Palin has executive experience, something no one else on either ticket has. She's more qualified than a lot of candidates for the top or second slot.

593 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:32:39pm

re: #585 big steve

Steve, where are you? I'm northwest of Houston.

594 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:32:48pm

re: #586 reine.de.tout

Hm. We haven't tried that one yet . . .

*spew*

595 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:33:15pm
596 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:33:50pm

re: #585 big steve

. . . The local starbucks opened tonight. Some may laugh but just a little bit of luxury after all this actually does help.

I'm not laughing. When there are signs that life will be normal again, it's a really good thing.

597 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:34:11pm

re: #595 buzzsawmonkey

Hey, I forget them too. Not to worry.

yeah, but then you can just make up new ones . . .

598 HDrepub  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:34:11pm

re: #587 MandyManners


Did the attorneys not read the report?

Obviously not. This was the same line of thought Cognito was using earlier today on another thread and it doesn't have legs. There was no government business in her email.

599 Knitwit  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:35:08pm

re: #175 zombie
Didn't Sandy Nelson ("Let There Be Drums") do a version of this in the late '50s or early '60s? Thanks for the memories.

600 TheMatrix31  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:35:24pm

re: #590 Opinionated

It's not an insult to small towns. It's an innate characteristic of being small.

A small business owner has more executive experience and more issues cross his/her desk then most tiny town mayors.

I guess everyone forgets that she's also the governor of a state that has a $11 billion budget.

601 Intrepid  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:35:34pm

re: #501 EIDE_Interface

I'm not hysterical. I'm just upset like MANY other conservatives at this ridiculous socialist pandering. Do you think no others are upset like me today?

Actually, you are acting a bit hysterical tonight. But I've noticed a trend with you - when Palin was first announced, you trounced her until it became obvious how much she energized conservatives and brought new life to McCain's campaign. And you've been positively giddy in the aftermath of the convention and especially in light of how scrambled the Obama camp was in the first week afterwards.

I understand that - we all were riding high on the polls and seemingly daily (or twice daily) gaffes by Biden and some bad choices by Obama.

But now things are leveling out, just as they were expected to. Yes, McCain has made some foolish statements. Not near as many as Obama has, but he's made a few. He's human - it's to be expected. And it's to be expected for him to say that companies in Wall Street needed more regulation, because they were legally allowed to lend money to people who couldn't pay it back. When McCain tried to get some controls on Freddie Mac/Fannie Mae back in 2005, he was blocked by democrats.

You are posting tonight as if McCain is 10 points down in all the polls and Palin was just discovered to have had an affair with Fidel Castro. I'd suggest that you take a minute and look at the RCP Electoral College map and flip a few states and see how it looks.

It will all come down to what we've always known - the debates. And we all know how Obama does without a teleprompter and a tailor made speech.

So can ya please lay off with the Chicken Little routine? The sky is still up, and we've still a long way to go.

602 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:35:41pm

re: #585 big steve

Great news steve! There have been folks worried sick about you and the family..

603 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:36:06pm

re: #598 HDrepub
Dem's new attack Palin talking point. The book banning one must have gotten old.

604 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:36:10pm

re: #12 MandyManners

Why is Sen. Clinton scared of Gov. Palin?

Hillary has to be the Star wherever she goes. Palin would get more attention than her at any joint appearance - that's a no-no in Hillaryworld.

605 big steve  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:36:43pm

re: #593 OldLineTexan

Steve, where are you? I'm northwest of Houston.

I live in Friendswood but also have small place on Tiki Island. Haven't been down across the causeway yet but my son saw the Tiki Island house on one of the helicopter news fly-bys and said it looked pretty good.

606 Silhouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:36:47pm

re: #572 Opinionated

For months we ridiculed Obama inexperience and his being unqualified.

Now without a moment hesitation Republicans are pretending Palin is qualified.

She isn't as experienced as McCain, no, but yes I think 8 years of executive experience does top 143 days of voting "present" in the Senate.

And Obama's trying out for the lead. Palin is just trying out for understudy.

There have been cases of VPs stepping into the presidency, of course, but I cannot recall the VP ever, during the election, being subjected to this level of hashing and rehashing whether they are ready to be POTUS. If we could measure it on a scale of 1-10, the previous record was 2, and the scrutiny of Palin rates an 11.

607 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:37:15pm

re: #582 jwb7605

A week is a long time in politics - Harold Wilson

608 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:37:34pm

re: #603 snowcrash

Dem's new attack Palin talking point. The book banning one must have gotten old.

MTV attention spans, constant barrage of talking points and celeb "news".

NOTHING had legs anymore, not really, not even something true.

609 big steve  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:37:35pm

re: #602 HoosierHoops

Great news steve! There have been folks worried sick about you and the family..

Wow that is so kind......this place really is a community!

610 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:38:01pm

re: #572 Opinionated

What constitutes experienced? Legislative experience for an executive position?

Executive experience as a mayor and/or governor?

Palin is more qualified as an executive than the Democrats' ticket combined. Is it sufficiently experienced? Not by your criteria, but we don't have the luxury of putting together another or different ticket (McCain wouldn't have been my first choice by any stretch). So, we go to vote with what we have.

And it's still better by any metric than what the Democrats have put forth. Obama's experience compares unfavorably to Palin, and that's saying something - though the media really doesn't want to cover or address that issue since he was their chosen one over Hillary (who herself had a deficit in experience unless you count being around the WH when decisions were made). Tenure isn't the same as experience. Longevity isn't the same as knowledge. Beltway insider doesn't mean that you're better than anyone else (though it does mean you get on all the fashionable shows like MtP, This Week with GS, etc.)

611 nightintheruts  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:38:20pm

re: #572 Opinionated

so you would base everything on an "if"?

If worms had machine guns birds wouldn't f-k with them ya know...

612 ggt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:38:29pm

Good Evening Lizards! It was another glorious day in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland. I hear some parts are drying -out. I hope it is the for those down South.

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

613 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:38:35pm

re: #605 big steve

I live in Friendswood but also have small place on Tiki Island. Haven't been down across the causeway yet but my son saw the Tiki Island house on one of the helicopter news fly-bys and said it looked pretty good.

I grew up in Sagemont (more or less), and lived in Friendswood for ten years. Best of luck to you.

614 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:39:14pm

re: #589 Moe Katz

I have.

I just want him to buck up, pull up his socks, and get on with it!

615 The Shadow Do  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:39:35pm

This group buy-in to the Dem "she is not ready, she needs experience" crap is getting really tiresome. Some seem to infer she lacks polish (years of schmoozing Washington?). For one, I don't give a rip and give zero credence to the worth of any of that. Good people make good decision, in general. Is her decision making good? All the evidence says it is.

Oh, and I'd like to see her at Camp David. With a shotgun. Shooting rabbits or some such for a nice dinner for select invited dignitaries. "Careful biting into that hausenpheffer Nancy, you might just break a tooth on a bit of stray #8 shot you know. Oh, sorry, I guess you don't know".

616 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:39:40pm

Anyone in NYC know of any events tomorrow?

617 mama winger  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:39:51pm

Qualified?

Yes, of course she is qualified. She is at least 35 years old and is a citizen of the United States. Those are the qualifications.

Perhaps you are talking experience, competence and temperament.

Those we can discuss.

I happen to think the KIND of experience she has as an government executive for several years outweighs the KIND of experience a junior senator has. She has accomplished real things for real people. She has had to act and make decisions that she alone was responsible for.

Competence? Please - the woman puts most of us to shame. Look at the remarkable array of things she does.

Temperament? - Calm, bright, unafraid. Loves her country, loves her family. Knows what's important: Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

She lives it. It is not a slogan to her.

I will take real over fake any day of the week.

618 pingjockey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:39:58pm

re: #612 ggt
"Of ships and sailing wax, cabbages and Kings".

619 Biff  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:40:01pm

re: #569 jcm
Small town Pennsylvanians hate Obama, and there are more small towns in PA than in any other state.

620 BlueCanuck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:40:20pm

re: #584 Alberta Oil Peon

Hey there, saw the commercial you were talking about in the early morning dead thread. If you have youtube banned at work why not the conservative party web site? They have all the commercials there.

621 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:40:30pm

re: #598 HDrepub

Obviously not. This was the same line of thought Cognito was using earlier today on another thread and it doesn't have legs. There was no government business in her email.

The way for the MSM fans of BHO to sell this story to the public is to repeatedly say that state business cannot be conducted in private e-mails without saying that none was.

622 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:40:48pm

re: #598 HDrepub

Obviously not. This was the same line of thought Cognito was using earlier today on another thread and it doesn't have legs. There was no government business in her email.

Wow. I hate to be "defending" Cognito here, but his point was that government employees need to be very careful about "mixing" public business with their personal and private business, because anything they do related to the business of the government is "public record", requiring that it be publicly available.

If she gave even the appearance that she was using her private e-mail in order to "hide" her public business, that could have been a problem. And I think he was speculating that that could be a problem for her. It looks like it won't be, but he did have a point.

623 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:41:07pm

re: #604 Pawn of the Oppressor

Hillary has to be the Star wherever she goes. Palin would get more attention than her at any joint appearance - that's a no-no in Hillaryworld.

that is why so many people don't like hillary. being so petty abt. small things shows she is a small person.
the public can tell that sarah is not like that and they adore her.

624 big steve  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:41:11pm

I have been watching some of these posts and let me tell you that being mayor of a small town is far more experience than you might expect. While people don't have tanks and nukes, you run into people and opponents who are FAR meaner and nastier that Putin and Dinner Jacket combined. Because in a small town politics is ultimately always about one's personal property or kids. It is a far better breeding ground for a good tough American politician than the courtly confines of the US Senate......

625 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:41:23pm

re: #607 lifeofthemind

A week is a long time in politics - Harold Wilson

Thanks for the education!
I knew there had to be a source ... you hear it 'constantly' on TV and radio.

626 nightintheruts  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:41:27pm

re: #617 mama winger


well said!

627 Sifty  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:41:27pm

Just popping in to say:

I eagerly await the day that One Note Solo and The Incredible Melting Man are replaced by an actual smart conservative and a real human liberal from this planet.

Hannity and Colmes is getting as ridiculous as The O'Ego Factor. 2 minutes of substance and 20 minutes of jerking off and annoying crawler graphics.

The one bright spot was when Newt told Alan he was embarrassing himself and Alan cried like the whiny little bitch snake alien from the planet Carville that he is.

628 ggt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:41:53pm

re: #618 pingjockey

ah!

Cabbage is good "ruff-age"

629 Archimedes  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:42:05pm

re: #344 experiencedtraveller

Sarah Palin is a small state governor with little experience dealing with a hostile press.

I think it is infinitely wise to to keep her away from this hostile, gotcha media attack machine until she masters the dark arts of dealing with these people. She will master them. She just needs a little time.

Bold mine. I like the way you put that: "Dark Arts". So sad, yet so true.

630 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:42:16pm

re: #619 Biff

Small town Pennsylvanians hate Obama, and there are more small towns in PA than in any other state.

And PA in play. If PA turns early for McCain, its over.....

631 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:42:23pm

Blast and damn! I can't see the interview as Ike wiped out my sat dish....I'm stuck with rabbit ears.

Hi all my fellow Houstonians...How'd ya'll all do?

OldLine Texan...you do okay? We need to celebrate with a margeuria or two...soon. You, me, your wife and all our neighbors!

632 big steve  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:42:43pm

re: #613 OldLineTexan

I grew up in Sagemont (more or less), and lived in Friendswood for ten years. Best of luck to you.

Well the East side of town near Clear Creek got hit pretty hard by trees on houses.

633 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:42:47pm

re: #604 Pawn of the Oppressor

Hillary has to be the Star wherever she goes. Palin would get more attention than her at any joint appearance - that's a no-no in Hillaryworld.

I wonder what she thinks about Lynn Forester de Rothschild going over to the GOP.

634 Mich-again  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:42:59pm

re: #572 Opinionated

For months we ridiculed Obama inexperience and his being unqualified.

Whats this we shit. You got a mouse in your pocket?

Obama was indeed ridiculed but not so much for his inexperience, but precisely for his experience. His experience as a radical leftist with a 20 year relationship with a hate spewing "preacher". His experience chumming around with terrorists like William Ayres. His experience as a Marxist activist in a government created craphole/prison/community. His experience trying to undermine US foreign policy for his own political gain.

As for his being unqualified, see above.

635 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:43:39pm

re: #627 Sifty

Just popping in to say:

I eagerly await the day that One Note Solo and The Incredible Melting Man are replaced by an actual smart conservative and a real human liberal from this planet.

Hannity and Colmes is getting as ridiculous as The O'Ego Factor. 2 minutes of substance and 20 minutes of jerking off and annoying crawler graphics.

The one bright spot was when Newt told Alan he was embarrassing himself and Alan cried like the whiny little bitch snake alien from the planet Carville that he is.

ROFL....well said!

636 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:43:53pm

re: #622 reine.de.tout

It's only a problem if it violates state law. There is no evidence that she was conducting the public's business through her personal email.

637 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:43:54pm

re: #605 big steve

I live in Friendswood but also have small place on Tiki Island. Haven't been down across the causeway yet but my son saw the Tiki Island house on one of the helicopter news fly-bys and said it looked pretty good.

I'd been wondering about your place on Tiki. Good to hear it seems to be okay.

638 pingjockey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:44:08pm

Night folks! Fight nice kids.

639 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:44:09pm

re: #633 MandyManners

I wonder what she thinks about Lynn Forester de Rothschild going over to the GOP.

"heh".
(that's what she thinks)

640 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:44:30pm

re: #622 reine.de.tout

Wow. I hate to be "defending" Cognito here, but his point was that government employees need to be very careful about "mixing" public business with their personal and private business, because anything they do related to the business of the government is "public record", requiring that it be publicly available.

If she gave even the appearance that she was using her private e-mail in order to "hide" her public business, that could have been a problem. And I think he was speculating that that could be a problem for her. It looks like it won't be, but he did have a point.

I said the same thing. Cog was right on that point. IF anything was in there it would have been an issue.

641 ggt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:44:35pm

re: #635 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I have to say I am rather tired of news/entertainment/gossip of the pundits.

I like Brit Hume.

642 big steve  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:44:46pm

re: #631 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Blast and damn! I can't see the interview as Ike wiped out my sat dish....I'm stuck with rabbit ears.

Hi all my fellow Houstonians...How'd ya'll all do?

OldLine Texan...you do okay? We need to celebrate with a margeuria or two...soon. You, me, your wife and all our neighbors!

When did you get power back?

643 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:44:50pm

re: #629 Archimedes

Bold mine. I like the way you put that: "Dark Arts". So sad, yet so true.


Maybe we should send Severus Snape in to help her. Or better yet, Dumbledore...there was a man who could talk in riddles.

644 rawmuse  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:45:27pm

46 days until the Election.

645 Biff  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:45:33pm

re: #366 godfrey

All those bundled mortgage things? Come on. When you apply for a mortgage, you declare your income. All that data gets entered somewhere. You can't tell me someone couldn't have analyzed a particular bundle for risk, based on differences of loan amount vs. annual income.

Problem was that the Dems wanted there constituents to get in on the low interest hootenanny, so they rigged Mac and Mae and after scolding the bankers for being too tight with their money,let the banks in on the mortgage bonanza. This is a House Democrat manufacture crisis. Barney Frank and the House leadership told W's Treasury Sec to get screwed in '03, and this is what you get.

646 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:45:40pm

re: #590 Opinionated

As long as being the governor of a state with a small population makes you too inexperienced to be Vice President what does that make Biden? Biden is from Delaware roughly the same population as Alaska. He has no experience in the executive. She also govern the largest area state in the union.

647 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:45:40pm

re: #631 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

hey there, Pulchritudinous Patriot,
nice to have you back.

648 arethusa  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:45:53pm

re: #517 EIDE_Interface

I don't know...McCain's been channeling Reagan a lot in his stump speech recently ("America's best days are ahead of her..." etc.). And he was a heck of a lot more Presidential in his calm response to the panic.

Is it me, or does it strike anyone else that Palin is in a perpetually good mood? (Again, like Reagan, though both had/have their testy moments.)

Hannity interview: 8 (7 without the answer to the Tina Fey question)

649 ggt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:45:56pm

re: #644 rawmuse

I wish it were last week.

650 Sifty  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:45:58pm

re: #643 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Wait a minute! We conservatives are supposed to hate Dumbledore!

651 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:46:01pm

re: #641 ggt

I have to say I am rather tired of news/entertainment/gossip of the pundits.

I like Brit Hume.


Me too....Brit don't take no shit.

652 Opinionated  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:46:13pm

re: #606 Silhouette

I will leave off explaining that I am not comparing her to Obama or anyone else.

Nor is there any doubt that the media (and the Democrats) is/are disgraceful beyond all measure in how they have reacted to her and in their hypocrisy in questioning her credentials and not Obama's.

My comments are on the question of whether McCain put country first by choosing her. I will leave you all to your own conscience and honest opinions.

653 nightintheruts  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:46:19pm

re: #627 Sifty


"whiny little bitch snake alien" LOL!

Actually, I think Cap'n Kirk had a one-nighter with her in one episode.

654 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:46:20pm

re: #619 Biff

Small town Pennsylvanians hate Obama, and there are more small towns in PA than in any other state.

If the Democrats keep bankrupting the big businesses in NYC then it will become a small town too.

Minister Hacker - We must not throttle small business.
Bernard Wooley - The Bank is hardly a small business Minister.
Minister Hacker - It will be if we throttle it.

655 itellu3times  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:46:31pm

Hello scaley ones, I'm starting a new gig, long commute and way off schedule, missing all the fun.

I mean, except the finance fun, I'm working in the bowels of the beast, actually, maybe I'll learn something, or maybe it will just all be brown down around where I am.

So did Sarah propose what she'll do to fix, y'know, everything?

656 erisldysnomia  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:46:32pm

re: #544 spypeach

So it seems on Greta, that the "lawyers" seem more concerned with business conducted on private email then the fact that some scumbags hacked them. This will be worse then troopergate, MSM will run with this and she'll have to spend the next two weeks defending herself. Just disgraceful.

I think the big story will be how "unfair" and "cruel" the federal authorities are acting when they prosecute and jail these idiots. "Abu Ghraib" comparisons will surely enter into the picture.

BTW a google search on "gov.sarah@yahoo.com" produces a note at the bottom of the page that says:

In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read more about the request at ChillingEffects.org.

That link takes you to a page "Child Pornography Complaint in Google Search."

Very bizarre. Can anyone explain?

657 ciaospirit  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:46:38pm

Greta just contrasted the View (from Hell) treatment of Obamas versus treatment of the McCains. Blatant.

658 Sifty  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:46:40pm

re: #651 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Droopy Dog has the glare of iron.

659 big steve  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:46:42pm

re: #637 MandyManners

I'd been wondering about your place on Tiki. Good to hear it seems to be okay.

well we were going to sell it and I was kind of hoping the hurricane took it away and I would just collect insurance and sell the property. However lots of people are lots worse off so all is relative.

660 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:46:52pm

re: #639 jwb7605

"heh".
(that's what she thinks)

None of that lovely money will go to BHO.

661 stevieray  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:47:03pm

Free market economics does not mean "no rules" economics.

662 Silhouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:47:05pm

re: #617 mama winger

Qualified?

Yes, of course she is qualified. She is at least 35 years old and is a citizen of the United States. Those are the qualifications.

Natural born citizen. Naturalized cannot run.

But there is one more constitutional requirement. A free kewpie doll to the first who gets it without looking at their pocket Constitution.

/in honor of Sept 17th, Constitution Day.

663 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:47:20pm

re: #644 rawmuse

46 days until the Election.

shhhhh! I've been telling dems it's 47 days till election..

664 nightintheruts  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:47:37pm

re: #643 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Maybe we should send Severus Snape in to help her. Or better yet, Dumbledore...there was a man who could talk in riddles.


yes, but...Rowling turned him into a democrat.

665 Archimedes  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:47:43pm

re: #644 rawmuse

46 days until the Election.

And things are getting REALLY nasty. I'm expecting a few cranks upward in the nastiness factor if the dems feel a loss coming. Something wicked this way comes.

666 talon_262  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:47:50pm

re: #278 ErislDysnomia

Nice Star Trek: Deep Space 9 reference there...

;-P

667 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:47:55pm
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


The United States Constitution was adopted on this day, 1787, by the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania!

668 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:48:17pm

re: #642 big steve

When did you get power back?

Monday, thank God....I took my freezer contents with me when I evacuated....I left them in College Stattion when I came back, because I didnt know if we had power (no one reports on we folks here in hicktown Texas...anywho...after subsisting on luncheon meat and fish sticks (all they had left at Walmart) my BF brought me my meat today...I've got a rump roast in the crock pot as we speak.

669 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:48:30pm

re: #657 ciaospirit

Greta just contrasted the View (from Hell) treatment of Obamas versus treatment of the McCains. Blatant.

I might have to start watching her regularly.

670 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:48:49pm

re: #647 nyc redneck

hey there, Pulchritudinous Patriot,
nice to have you back.

It's nice to be back!

671 Alouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:49:01pm

re: #656 erisldysnomia

I think the big story will be how "unfair" and "cruel" the federal authorities are acting when they prosecute and jail these idiots. "Abu Ghraib" comparisons will surely enter into the picture.

BTW a google search on "gov.sarah@yahoo.com" produces a note at the bottom of the page that says:

In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read more about the request at ChillingEffects.org.

That link takes you to a page "Child Pornography Complaint in Google Search."

Very bizarre. Can anyone explain?

The 4Chan subbasement of Gawker.com has been known to host child porn.

672 rawmuse  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:49:11pm

re: #667 jcm

I got my pocket copy. The Cato Institute will send you one for a buck.

673 Biff  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:49:24pm

re: #283 EIDE_Interface

re: #276 jacksontn
Plenty of blame to go around on both sides. Whatever happened to 20% down?
Dunno, I did my 20% like all decent Americans.

Yeah, but the Dems wanted their constituents to get in on the low mortgages and they couldn't afford 20% or 10%.

674 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:49:24pm

re: #659 big steve

well we were going to sell it and I was kind of hoping the hurricane took it away and I would just collect insurance and sell the property. However lots of people are lots worse off so all is relative.

Will you be able to sell it since potential buyers know it can be wiped away in another hurricane?

675 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:49:24pm

re: #663 HoosierHoops

shhhhh! I've been telling dems it's 47 days till election..

Didn't hear the news? Congress passed a law to avoid congestion at the polling place. Republicans vote Nov. 4, Democrats on Nov. 5.

Pass it on.

/okay just to make sure.

676 mama winger  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:49:27pm

Why isn't anyone asking if Joe Biden is qualified?

Does the fact that your ass sat in a comfy chair in Washington for 189 years make you qualified?

677 big steve  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:49:53pm

re: #662 Silhouette

permanent resident

678 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:49:55pm

re: #667 jcm

The United States Constitution was adopted on this day, 1787, by the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania!

yay,
we are so lucky.
just look around the world.

679 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:49:55pm

re: #653 nightintheruts

"whiny little bitch snake alien" LOL!

Actually, I think Cap'n Kirk had a one-nighter with her in one episode.


He'd have a one nighter with any female that moved...

680 rw in san diego  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:49:58pm

I'm listening to Greta and some AP reporter making excuses for how the McCains were treated on the idiot show, 'The View'. Greta is saying and the reporter is agreeing that the reason the Obamas were treated so congenially was due to the timing of their interview. They're saying that if the Obamas were on the show now, they would face tough questions.

Yeah, right.

681 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:50:24pm

re: #662 Silhouette

Natural born citizen. Naturalized cannot run.

But there is one more constitutional requirement. A free kewpie doll to the first who gets it without looking at their pocket Constitution.

/in honor of Sept 17th, Constitution Day.

Not previously elected twice to the Office of President.

682 faraway  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:50:41pm

So, Obama’s dirty tricks squad engineered a break-in.

Who does this remind you of?

683 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:50:44pm

re: #636 Sharmuta

It's only a problem if it violates state law. There is no evidence that she was conducting the public's business through her personal email.

Correct; I didn't mean to suggest otherwise, just trying to explain what Cognito was speculating about.

684 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:51:06pm

re: #652 Opinionated

My comments are on the question of whether McCain put country first by choosing her. I will leave you all to your own conscience and honest opinions.

I say yes, he did.

First- she was what was needed to energize the base, saving us from an 0bama Presidency. That's country first.

Second- she's a reformer like McCain. I have never been a big McCain fan, but when he said in his acceptance speech at the convention that the Republicans lost their way from being reformers that swept them into power in the 90s- I agreed with him. If he and Sarah can get the Republicans back to reforming Washington so it's working for the American people, and not against us- then that's country first.

Third- she knows how to deal with the energy issues as she took on big oil in Alaska and we need American energy for Americans NOW. That's country first.

So yes- I think McCain put country first by picking Sarah Palin.

685 Mich-again  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:51:12pm

The "problem" is hacking into a Governor's or anyone else's private e-mail account on a fishing expedition looking for any hints of impropriety.

Odd how the very same deranged idiots who screamed bloody murder that the Patriot Act violated the rights of suspected terrorists think its perfectly OK to perform an illegal search and seizure as long as thae target is their political foe. It points out what hypocrites they are.

686 nyc redneck  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:51:18pm

re: #676 mama winger

Why isn't anyone asking if Joe Biden is qualified?

Does the fact that your ass sat in a comfy chair in Washington for 189 years make you qualified?

189 years,
LOL

687 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:51:18pm

re: #648 arethusa

I don't know...McCain's been channeling Reagan a lot in his stump speech recently ("America's best days are ahead of her..." etc.). And he was a heck of a lot more Presidential in his calm response to the panic.

Is it me, or does it strike anyone else that Palin is in a perpetually good mood? (Again, like Reagan, though both had/have their testy moments.)

Hannity interview: 8 (7 without the answer to the Tina Fey question)

I've noticed the good mood.
Fails to bum me out.

688 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:51:37pm

re: #601 Intrepid

He listens to, and apparently buys every word of, Michael Savage.

689 HDrepub  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:51:41pm

re: #622 reine.de.tout

If she gave even the appearance that she was using her private e-mail in order to "hide" her public business, that could have been a problem. And I think he was speculating that that could be a problem for her. It looks like it won't be, but he did have a point.

Um I think Cognito is a male.
It will be a problem for her, where it wouldn't be for Obama or Biden. Actually though I think the hacker may have done her a big favor when the day is done. The rumor she used her private email to hide government business is now proven false, but the MSM will still use the talking point, as Mandy Manners also stated in her posts.

690 nightintheruts  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:51:48pm

re: #665 Archimedes

And things are getting REALLY nasty. I'm expecting a few cranks upward in the nastiness factor if the dems feel a loss coming. Something wicked this way comes.


I'm getting the same vibe. Lots more leftie columnists talking about fighting if they lose and not quitting, revolutions, race wars, etc.

I think they forget - conservatives are the ones that are armed.

691 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:51:51pm

re: #676 mama winger

Why isn't anyone asking if Joe Biden is qualified?

Does the fact that your ass sat in a comfy chair in Washington for 189 years make you qualified?

Have you seen this?

Youtube Video

692 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:51:51pm

re: #672 rawmuse

I got my pocket copy. The Cato Institute will send you one for a buck.



Heritage will send you one free.

693 David Simon  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:51:52pm

re: #661 stevieray

Free market economics does not mean "no rules" economics.

Yep. One more reason why I'll never be a libertarian.

694 spypeach  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:52:04pm

re: #587 MandyManners

Did the attorneys not read the report?

I think they said they read them but they weren't sure how many more were out there that haven't been posted. So they were foaming at the mouth at the thought of a nice juicy surprise.

695 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:52:14pm

More people should read the Articles of Confederation, they were interesting, free invitation for Canada!

696 big steve  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:52:18pm

re: #674 MandyManners

oh yea before the storm it was a hot market and will be after as well. Everyone knows you will be wiped out on average every 20 years so you just over insure. The trick is to have a place where the shoreline won't move past you. If that happens then you lose your property to the state without a dime. However I have bulkheads and am on the bay side so that makes this a zero risk.

697 hazzyday  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:52:23pm

re: #366 godfrey

There is a lot of mortgage fraud everywhere.

[Link: www.king5.com...]

698 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:52:25pm

re: #662 Silhouette

Natural born citizen. Naturalized cannot run.

But there is one more constitutional requirement. A free kewpie doll to the first who gets it without looking at their pocket Constitution.

/in honor of Sept 17th, Constitution Day.

Um, can't have already served two terms as President, per the anti-FDR term limiting amendment?

699 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:52:37pm

re: #662 Silhouette

Natural born citizen. Naturalized cannot run.

But there is one more constitutional requirement. A free kewpie doll to the first who gets it without looking at their pocket Constitution.

/in honor of Sept 17th, Constitution Day.

Has to be from a different state than the Presidential candidate.

/Didn't look

700 The Shadow Do  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:52:37pm

re: #652 Opinionated

My comments are on the question of whether McCain put country first by choosing her. I will leave you all to your own conscience and honest opinions.


Yes, he did. Like it or not she is the best hope for the future of the country and the party principles. Win or lose this election there is no one else capable of carrying the conservative message beyond the select agendas/constituencies of a handful of already failed contenders.

701 Intrepid  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:52:40pm

re: #633 MandyManners

I wonder what she thinks about Lynn Forester de Rothschild going over to the GOP.

Did you see her short interview with Greta? She said she would be campaigning for McCain starting tomorrow, and that she had called her family and told them that they wouldn't be seeing much of her until Nov 5.

Wonder who else she can turn?...

702 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:52:58pm

re: #682 faraway

So, Obama’s dirty tricks squad engineered a break-in.

Who does this remind you of?

Ummmmmmmmmm....

703 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:53:16pm

re: #682 faraway

So, Obama’s dirty tricks squad engineered a break-in.

Who does this remind you of?

Tricky somebody ...
Where do you get the "Obama's dirty tricks squad" ... just inference, or something Bob Woodward would be interested in?

704 mama winger  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:53:31pm

re: #691 MandyManners

Have you seen this?

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

LOL ! ! !

705 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:53:37pm

re: #681 lifeofthemind

Beat me to it.

706 big steve  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:53:57pm

re: #677 big steve

permanent resident

actually come to think isn't it a permanent resident for 12 years or something like that.

707 Biff  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:54:23pm

re: #683 reine.de.tout
So George Washington could have been impeached for sending notes on his personal stationary?

708 rawmuse  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:54:32pm

re: #692 jcm

Yeah, I know all the Heritage guys. Great people. Dr. Ed, got his books.

709 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:54:38pm

re: #632 big steve

Well the East side of town near Clear Creek got hit pretty hard by trees on houses.

We had a bit of that as well; luckily, mine missed (no whole trees). Nine or ten houses in the 'hood are tree-topped, though.

710 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:54:48pm

re: #694 spypeach

I think they said they read them but they weren't sure how many more were out there that haven't been posted. So they were foaming at the mouth at the thought of a nice juicy surprise.

Doesn't sound like solid legal acumen to me.

711 big steve  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:54:52pm

re: #681 lifeofthemind

Not previously elected twice to the Office of President.

technically not a constitutional requirement in that it is from an amendment.

712 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:55:14pm

re: #693 David Simon

Yep. One more reason why I'll never be a libertarian.

As someone who works in the financial markets, I believe that we should do away with short selling....I guarantee there has been a lot of naked shorting through all this (even though it was made illegal after 1929). If you want to "short" a position...put your money where your mouth is....buy puts.

713 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:55:21pm

re: #646 Neo Con since 9-11

As long as being the governor of a state with a small population makes you too inexperienced to be Vice President what does that make Biden? Biden is from Delaware roughly the same population as Alaska. He has no experience in the executive. She also govern the largest area state in the union.

Fool, this isn't about facts! This is about what we SAY the facts are! And by "we" that means "not you", the non-Democrat, who needs our help to tie your shoes in the morning.

Besides, Biden is a Democrat and therefore he is smarter-er than any Republican, ever. And he really CARES.

/Dem.

714 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:55:22pm

re: #652 Opinionated

I think he did put country first, picking Palin. She has the right attitudes.

715 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:55:25pm

re: #682 faraway

So, Obama’s dirty tricks squad engineered a break-in.

Who does this remind you of?


Just logged on. what has happened for you to write this?
Please tell.

716 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:55:34pm

re: #690 nightintheruts

I'm getting the same vibe. Lots more leftie columnists talking about fighting if they lose and not quitting, revolutions, race wars, etc.

I think they forget - conservatives are the ones that are armed.

And, apparently, for good reason.

717 vmarks  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:55:43pm

re: #59 kynna

And there's partisan pressure to disinvite Palin if Obama or Biden don't come.

Nice, fascist democrats.

re: #44 lawhawk

Because Gov. Palin is all that Hillary is not.

And the fact that Hillary is skipping the pro-Israel rally speaks volumes over Hillary's commitment to Israel.

Actually, Hillary has never had a commitment to Israel. She came over in 1998/99 and spent one day in Israel, and the following week in Gaza, schmoozing it up with her real friends.

718 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:55:58pm
[i am lurking you can't see me]
719 alien_mind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:56:07pm

wouldn't it have been great to be a fly on the wall at that Hollywood fundraiser that Obama had last night?

Matt Damon had to be absolutley giddy.

720 hazzyday  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:56:29pm

re: #428 EIDE_Interface

For McCain defenders - how many days do you give him to mention his record on Fannie/Freddie?

What you need to do is go out and volunteer on the McCain campaign. It will provide you with the perspective you are looking for. And you could probably influence also. like take trooper gate talking points to independent blogs.

721 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:56:30pm

re: #701 Intrepid

Did you see her short interview with Greta? She said she would be campaigning for McCain starting tomorrow, and that she had called her family and told them that they wouldn't be seeing much of her until Nov 5.

Wonder who else she can turn?...

Did Sen. Clinton make her decision to not appear at the UN rally before or after Rothschild flippe for Gov. Palin?

722 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:56:37pm

re: #707 Biff

So George Washington could have been impeached for sending notes on his personal stationary?

Only if a hacker stole his portable desk and released the contents on broadsheets.

723 big steve  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:56:46pm

re: #718 Occasional Reader

hate to tell you but your fly is open.

724 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:56:59pm

re: #718 Occasional Reader

I see lurkers!

725 itellu3times  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:57:14pm

re: #718 Occasional Reader

[i am lurking you can't see me]

I heard you were auctioning off your parts.

726 Moe Katz  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:57:19pm

re: #614 Dianna

I have.

I just want him to buck up, pull up his socks, and get on with it!

Yeah, I'm torn about whether I want to put my professional hat on here. Let me just note that having positive interactions with others is one very powerful depression treatment, so the group could serve him for that purpose.

727 faraway  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:57:36pm

Obama's dirty tricks squad, called the Committee to React to Palin (CREEP for short), engineered a break-in.

What did Obama know and when did he know it?

Was there a slush fund involved?

Is there a conspiracy to cover up the break-in by the CREEPs?

728 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:57:37pm

re: #699 Sharmuta

Has to be from a different state than the Presidential candidate.

/Didn't look

Not true, an Elector cannot vote for two people for both offices from his own state. So if I was a Democrat Elector in NY and Hillary was the Candidate then I could not vote for Basil Paterson for Vice President also. But if I wa a NY Elector for the Democrats then I could vote for Barak Obama for Prexy and Michelle Obama for Veep.

729 joekowalski247  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:57:43pm

Jeanine garolfalo on bill maher sept 12
" the Democrats are the more decent of the two campaigns."
I LOL she relay is funny

I wonder is Gov. Palin thinks so?

730 Silhouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:57:45pm

re: #677 big steve

permanent resident

re: #681 lifeofthemind

Not previously elected twice to the Office of President.

Hint: It if different than the qualifications from President.

731 HDrepub  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:58:03pm

re: #662 Silhouette

Natural born citizen. Naturalized cannot run.

But there is one more constitutional requirement. A free kewpie doll to the first who gets it without looking at their pocket Constitution.

/in honor of Sept 17th, Constitution Day.

You can't serve as VP if you have served two terms as President.

732 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:58:13pm

re: #726 Moe Katz

Yeah, I'm torn about whether I want to put my professional hat on here. Let me just note that having positive interactions with others is one very powerful depression treatment, so the group could serve him for that purpose.

Frankly- I think the intent is to depress others.

733 Mich-again  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:58:25pm

Wait till a moonbat judge determines that the "Resident of the USA for 14 years" qualification in the Constitution for Vice Presidential candidates actually means the continental USA only.

734 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:58:26pm

re: #721 MandyManners

Did Sen. Clinton make her decision to not appear at the UN rally before or after Rothschild flippe for Gov. Palin?

Gov. Palin is the only woman in that sentence who made it on her own.

735 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:58:30pm

re: #668 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Monday, thank God....I took my freezer contents with me when I evacuated....I left them in College Stattion when I came back, because I didnt know if we had power (no one reports on we folks here in hicktown Texas...anywho...after subsisting on luncheon meat and fish sticks (all they had left at Walmart) my BF brought me my meat today...I've got a rump roast in the crock pot as we speak.

My parents (Lufkin, TX) were able to get ice from the national guard yesterday to save the contents of their freezer. No specifics given for when they get power back.

736 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:58:35pm

Why do I get the feeling that when we get down to the last few weeks before election day that the dems will get 90 days to pay for political ads with the major networks, while the GOP will be on a strict pay-as-you-go basis?

They will pull out every stop all the way from now until the ballots are counted and the race is over.

If you can't rig the ballot box, it doesn't mean you can't rig the election.

737 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:58:40pm

re: #711 big steve

technically not a constitutional requirement in that it is from an amendment.

I will dispute that distinction.

738 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:58:59pm

re: #689 HDrepub

Um I think Cognito is a male.
It will be a problem for her, where it wouldn't be for Obama or Biden. Actually though I think the hacker may have done her a big favor when the day is done. The rumor she used her private email to hide government business is now proven false, but the MSM will still use the talking point, as Mandy Manners also stated in her posts.

I know Cognito is male; that's why I said "he" was speculating.

I think you have a good point that it may turn out in her favor, in the long run. Something that a lot of speculation could have hurt her on, has now been laid to rest and shown to be false. Anyone trying to use it as a talking point can have the actual written proof thrown back at 'em.

739 Intrepid  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:59:02pm

re: #662 Silhouette

Natural born citizen. Naturalized cannot run.

But there is one more constitutional requirement. A free kewpie doll to the first who gets it without looking at their pocket Constitution.

/in honor of Sept 17th, Constitution Day.

Must have lived in the US for the last 10 years consecutively?

740 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:59:09pm

re: #631 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Blast and damn! I can't see the interview as Ike wiped out my sat dish....I'm stuck with rabbit ears.

Hi all my fellow Houstonians...How'd ya'll all do?

OldLine Texan...you do okay? We need to celebrate with a margeuria or two...soon. You, me, your wife and all our neighbors!

We got power back at 7pm...minor losses, probably a grand or so. No house damage.

I do owe you a lunch.

741 faraway  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:59:21pm

re: #715 newsjunkie_ky

Just logged on. what has happened for you to write this?
Please tell.

Palin's email account server had a "break-in". Her email has been posted on Gore's Internets.

742 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:59:22pm

re: #662 Silhouette

Natural born citizen. Naturalized cannot run.

But there is one more constitutional requirement. A free kewpie doll to the first who gets it without looking at their pocket Constitution.

/in honor of Sept 17th, Constitution Day.

Can not have already served ten years as president

743 big steve  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:59:22pm

re: #730 Silhouette

Hint: It if different than the qualifications from President.

I think you also can't be president if impeached from some other federal office

744 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:59:24pm

re: #718 Occasional Reader

Hey Look! There is a guy behind the curtain!

745 Moe Katz  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:59:43pm

re: #732 Sharmuta

Frankly- I think the intent is to depress others.

Well that's certainly the end result ....

746 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 7:59:47pm

re: #734 MandyManners

Gov. Palin is the only woman in that sentence who made it on her own.

I'm not discounting Todd Palin's support as a husband, however.

747 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:00:07pm

re: #656 erisldysnomia

I think the big story will be how "unfair" and "cruel" the federal authorities are acting when they prosecute and jail these idiots. "Abu Ghraib" comparisons will surely enter into the picture.

BTW a google search on "gov.sarah@yahoo.com" produces a note at the bottom of the page that says:

In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read more about the request at ChillingEffects.org.

That link takes you to a page "Child Pornography Complaint in Google Search."

Very bizarre. Can anyone explain?

It's Google. There's nothing bizarre about it. Google's been trying to throw the election since forever.

748 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:00:17pm

re: #707 Biff

So George Washington could have been impeached for sending notes on his personal stationary?

I have no clue what the "public records laws" were in the days of George Washington. I'm not quite that old.

749 Intrepid  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:00:19pm

re: #688 Noam Sayin'

He listens to, and apparently buys every word of, Michael Savage.

Ah. 'Nuff said.

750 Sparkizzy  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:00:30pm

re: #733 Mich-again

Wait till a moonbat judge determines that the "Resident of the USA for 14 years" qualification in the Constitution for Vice Presidential candidates actually means the continental USA only.

Vote McCain, won't happen.

751 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:00:44pm

re: #724 jcm

I see lurkers!

Clothes of brass and hair of brown
Seldom need to breathe
Don't need no wings to fly
And a heart of stone
A fear of fire and water
Who am I?
--Genesis, "Dodo/Lurker"

752 SagamoreGal  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:00:51pm

I know people on conservative web sites have been bashing Carly Fiorina over the last two days. However, as Cindy Adams in the NY Post, wrote at the beginning of the RNC, Ms Fiorina was going to be the primary "hostess/arm twister" in St. Paul of several high-powered, influential Democratic "Friends of Hilary" and was using her skills to move these FOH's over to McCain's camp. One of the biggest Hilary/Bill $$$ supporters (married couple) who live in the Lehigh Valley part of PA (Allentown, Easton, Bethlehem) are also working hard for McCain/Palin, according to Mrs. Adams. Lady Rothschild should have a lot of pull in circles that McCain & Palin would never have on their own. I believe that Mrs. Rothschild is hosting a big fundraising dinner for John & Sarah next week (the day Sarah will be in NYC for the anti-Dinnerjacket rally?).

753 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:00:56pm

re: #742 Neo Con since 9-11

If your talking about VP it's 6 years as president

754 yesandno  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:01:05pm

re: #641 ggt

I have to say I am rather tired of news/entertainment/gossip of the pundits.

I like Brit Hume.

Brit is retiring this year....a real gentleman.

755 Shug  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:01:38pm

re: #729 joekowalski247

Jeanine garolfalo on bill maher sept 12
" the Democrats are the more decent of the two campaigns."
I LOL she relay is funny

I wonder is Gov. Palin thinks so?

She meant they are in a rapid descent

756 Archimedes  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:01:43pm

re: #690 nightintheruts

I'm getting the same vibe. Lots more leftie columnists talking about fighting if they lose and not quitting, revolutions, race wars, etc.

I think they forget - conservatives are the ones that are armed.

Quite so ...

The thing about leftists is that quite a few of them are driven by emotion to an insane degree, case in point Jill Greenberg. When there are thousands, (millions?) of those like minded people out there throwing a fit in absolute desperation it's Katie bar the door. We've already seen how they protest conventions (both republican and democrat).

Men who don't use reason end up behaving like animals.

757 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:01:46pm

You are not qualified to be elected VP if you are not qualified to be elected POTUS

758 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:01:59pm

re: #453 BlueCanuck

Blow it out your hole. I have never seen so much negativity on subject from a single poster until you showed up.

Give the guy a silver lining, and he'll knit you a cloud around it.

759 J.S.  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:01:59pm

CNN Headline "news" just reported that S. Palin was using a personal email account to hide government business...No mention of the illegality of hacking into an email account, of course. it's the Leftist "priorities" of course.

760 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:02:00pm

re: #725 itellu3times

I heard you were auctioning off your parts.

Whuh?

761 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:02:04pm

re: #737 lifeofthemind

I will dispute that distinction.

Some people have strange ways of thinking.

762 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:02:07pm

re: #752 SagamoreGal

Is she Jewish?

763 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:02:12pm

re: #735 David IV of Georgia

My parents (Lufkin, TX) were able to get ice from the national guard yesterday to save the contents of their freezer. No specifics given for when they get power back.


Sucks...my sister, who lives three miles from me won't get hers back till early October...luckily, she has a gas water heater and stove, so she can cook and bathe. They have a generator to keep the fridge going and a few fans.

Today, when I hd to drive to the Galleria to work ( my office is really by HP on 249) I discovered how spoiled I am. I was bitching about a three hour commute (290 sucks) and there are people with no homes anymore.

764 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:02:17pm

re: #726 Moe Katz

Yeah, I'm torn about whether I want to put my professional hat on here. Let me just note that having positive interactions with others is one very powerful depression treatment, so the group could serve him for that purpose.

that was the clandestine purpose of my previous post #582

OK for an amateur?
I even got the root of "A week is a long time in politics" for my effort! (#607, lifeofthemind)

765 Silhouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:02:20pm

re: #699 Sharmuta

Has to be from a different state than the Presidential candidate.

/Didn't look

Winner!

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766 nightintheruts  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:02:26pm

re: #734 MandyManners

Gov. Palin is the only woman in that sentence who made it on her own.


Excellent point.
Hillary is well aware of that too, I bet.

767 Archimedes  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:02:49pm

re: #672 rawmuse

I got my pocket copy. The Cato Institute will send you one for a buck.

I have a copy as well. Very convenient.

768 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:03:28pm

re: #766 nightintheruts

Excellent point.
Hillary is well aware of that too, I bet.

Oh, you know it!

769 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:04:01pm

re: #767 Archimedes

I have a copy as well. Very convenient.

Isn't it great that we have a Constitution you can fit in your jeans pocket?

The Euros didn't quite get that, did they.

770 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:04:31pm

re: #740 OldLineTexan

We got power back at 7pm...minor losses, probably a grand or so. No house damage.

I do owe you a lunch.

Glad to hear that you had no major damage...my worst was the fridge contents (I'm paranoid about dairy, like Monk!) and a base ball thru my window from some bored kids. I didn't have the heart to tell their parents, so they got a sound talking to and I'm footing the bill for the one pane.

771 faraway  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:04:36pm

This is going to go down as the dirtiest campaign in the last 100 years.

772 Silhouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:04:42pm

re: #692 jcm


Heritage will send you one free.

They'll send you up to 25.

More, if you just give them a good reason, like you are going to hand them out to sixty-four 2nd graders.

773 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:04:50pm

re: #759 J.S.

CNN Headline "news" just reported that S. Palin was using a personal email account to hide government business...No mention of the illegality of hacking into an email account, of course. it's the Leftist "priorities" of course.

And where is the proof she was conducting government business in a private email account, and where is the law forbidding it?

774 ggt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:05:44pm

re: #754 yesandno

oh no! who is going to replace him?

775 Sparkizzy  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:05:58pm

New post! Lets go trash Kadima!

776 Silhouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:06:33pm

re: #769 Occasional Reader

Isn't it great that we have a Constitution you can fit in your jeans pocket?

The Euros didn't quite get that, did they.

I'd like a tax code that I can hold in one hand.

They can even use the very thin paper that they print the Holy Bible on, but the print must be large enough for the average person to read.

777 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:07:04pm

re: #734 MandyManners

Gov. Palin is the only woman in that sentence who made it on her own.

Actually Mandy Rothschild is a self made woman also.
I saw her interview and she talked about how her parents worked 4 jobs between them in order to send all four of their kids to college and law school.

778 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:07:06pm

Gotta get to bed...three hour commute (I hope not!) tomorrow AM....Old Line...Lets do lunch when things get back to normal!

779 Moe Katz  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:07:31pm

re: #764 jwb7605

that was the clandestine purpose of my previous post #582

OK for an amateur?
I even got the root of "A week is a long time in politics" for my effort! (#607, lifeofthemind)

Sometimes you can't cheer someone up with happy thoughts, although I like the Wilson quote and can imagine him saying that with his pipe clenched between his teeth.

780 itellu3times  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:07:47pm

re: #760 Occasional Reader

Whuh?

Like WaMu or AIG, little finance humor.

781 Intrepid  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:08:08pm

re: #721 MandyManners

Did Sen. Clinton make her decision to not appear at the UN rally before or after Rothschild flippe for Gov. Palin?

Dunno - I'm sure Rothschild called Hillary and told her what she was going to do, but I don't know that this has anything to do with why Hillary canceled.

Hillary canceled because a) the Obama campaign didn't know Palin was invited and when they found out they slipped the word to Hillary not to go (didn't want to excite the PUMAs any more than they already are), or b) Hillary didn't want to be compared to Sarah Palin and be found wanting.

Either way, most of the PUMAs are not pleased with Hillary for making that decision, no sirree. They thought it was an excellent opportunity for Hillary to show bi-partisanship at a very important event, and she let them down in not attending.

782 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:08:13pm

re: #763 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Sucks...my sister, who lives three miles from me won't get hers back till early October...luckily, she has a gas water heater and stove, so she can cook and bathe. They have a generator to keep the fridge going and a few fans.

Today, when I hd to drive to the Galleria to work ( my office is really by HP on 249) I discovered how spoiled I am. I was bitching about a three hour commute (290 sucks) and there are people with no homes anymore.

290 does suck. I would be displeased. However, as you point out, we are not floating out to sea.

783 Archimedes  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:08:25pm

re: #759 J.S.

CNN Headline "news" just reported that S. Palin was using a personal email account to hide government business...No mention of the illegality of hacking into an email account, of course. it's the Leftist "priorities" of course.

It's become so routine I'm not sure what to say. Oh, look, there is another piranha in the river.

784 J.S.  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:08:35pm

re: #773 Sharmuta

What? ! You expect the Lame Stream Media to question an Obama talking point? Have you lost your mind? Look, they're campaigning for Obama -- they don't care about "facts." they only care about sliming, maligning Palin -- even if it includes fabrications...that's it.

785 nightintheruts  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:08:46pm

re: #756 Archimedes


predatory animals.
I read a busload of cub or boy scouts were attacked going to the RNC one morning.
I'm not sure if it was confirmed or not - read it on NRO -but...
persons that would dump bleach or urine on another human, attack children...
hey wait...terrorists do that.

We do not negotiate with terrorists.

786 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:08:48pm

re: #777 Typicalwhitey

Actually Mandy Rothschild is a self made woman also.
I saw her interview and she talked about how her parents worked 4 jobs between them in order to send all four of their kids to college and law school.

I'm not trashing those accomplishments but, didn't her marriage to Rothschild put her on the global scene?

787 ggt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:09:09pm

WTF?

788 David Simon  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:09:10pm

re: #712 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

As someone who works in the financial markets, I believe that we should do away with short selling....I guarantee there has been a lot of naked shorting through all this (even though it was made illegal after 1929). If you want to "short" a position...put your money where your mouth is....buy puts.

Do away with naked short selling? Okay, fine. Do away with all short selling? I don't agree. The fair market value is the price agreed upon by a willing buyer and seller. If there are adequate shares, and someone wants to borrow from their broker to sell them short, I have no problem.

A put is a totally different propostion. It's more akin to gambling. You're betting that the price of the underlying stock/index/commodity will fall within a set period of time. Unlike selling short, you can't hold the position indefinitely, because a put contract will expire.

789 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:09:26pm

re: #759 J.S.

CNN Headline "news" just reported that S. Palin was using a personal email account to hide government business...No mention of the illegality of hacking into an email account, of course. it's the Leftist "priorities" of course.

They have zero way of knowing that, and further, any evidence that was unearthed as a result of unlawful abridgement of the right to privacy renders such evidence moot and inadmissible. FOREVER.

790 joekowalski247  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:09:27pm

re: #515 jamgarr

I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison
And I went to pick her up in the rain

and she got runned over by a danged ol train?

791 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:09:46pm

re: #765 Silhouette

Winner!

Kewpie doll will be delivered in 4-6 weeks. Void where prohibited. Limited time offer. Not responsible for direct, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages resulting from any defect, error, or failure to perform. Any reproduction, retransmission, or rebroadcast without the expressed written consent of Major League Baseball is strictly prohibited.

Hey, see my #728.

792 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:09:47pm

re: #780 itellu3times

Like WaMu or AIG, little finance humor.

Oh. Got it.

So I'll warm over my attempt at humor from a day or two ago:

The latest news is, WaMu is being sold to a British financial group.
The new bank will be called "WaM!UK".

793 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:09:58pm

re: #765 Silhouette

Winner!

Kewpie doll will be delivered in 4-6 weeks. Void where prohibited. Limited time offer. Not responsible for direct, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages resulting from any defect, error, or failure to perform. Any reproduction, retransmission, or rebroadcast without the expressed written consent of Major League Baseball is strictly prohibited.

WOOOOOHOOOOO! My new name- Flex "Winnah" Gunship Palin.

794 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:10:25pm

re: #786 MandyManners

Yes but she was a millionaire before she married him.

795 jacksontn  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:10:36pm

re: #786 MandyManners

I'm not trashing those accomplishments but, didn't her marriage to Rothschild put her on the global scene?

I heard they met at Bildenberg so she probably was already on some scene.

796 krypto  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:10:43pm

re: #759 J.S.

CNN Headline "news" just reported that S. Palin was using a personal email account to hide government business...No mention of the illegality of hacking into an email account, of course. it's the Leftist "priorities" of course.

Omigosh! I've been using a personal email account for years. Can the Daily Kos have me arrested by the FBI once Obama seizes power gets elected?

797 faraway  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:10:51pm

re: #792 Occasional Reader

Oh. Got it.

So I'll warm over my attempt at humor from a day or two ago:

The latest news is, WaMu is being sold to a British financial group.
The new bank will be called "WaM!UK".

I heard it was being sold to a bank from Alabama.

New bank will be called WAM BAM. Thank you.

798 J.S.  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:11:09pm

re: #789 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Well, then, you better go tell that to the crew at CNN's Headline "news" department.
(as if they care or consider themselves "accountable" to anyone).

799 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:11:10pm

re: #770 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Glad to hear that you had no major damage...my worst was the fridge contents (I'm paranoid about dairy, like Monk!) and a base ball thru my window from some bored kids. I didn't have the heart to tell their parents, so they got a sound talking to and I'm footing the bill for the one pane.

Tossed a bunch of food myself. Ate all we could and fed the tree guys, too, but we could not keep it safely.

800 hazzyday  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:11:17pm

re: #569 jcm

WA with 11 is in play also leaning Obama, but don't count out dissatisfaction with the (D) establishment in Wa.

It may come down to late counted mall in ballots in WA.

And those will be King County(Seattle) ballots. And maybe they will disqualify some again from servicemen, then accidentally find a lost set of ballots behind a copier again, and then have disagreements over questionable ballots and produce a list of them that they give to democrat canvassers (ACORN). Then they give ACORN time to go knock on peoples doors to make their vote valid for the final tally. Which Rossi lost by some 100 plus votes. It was a total voting fiasco. I did lose my faith in the elections department here being manipulated by community organizers and then technicalities in the legal system. We need a national voter ID and the person has to physically show up and vote. I don't think the changes Reed made in the voting laws went far enough. Ever since that election office went high tech it has been a fiasco.

801 SagamoreGal  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:11:55pm

Just watching a little part of Sarah's performance in the Town Hall event just proves to me that she will take Joe Biden to the shed during the V.P. debates. The Palin family will be able to live off that meat for winters to come.

She's a natural at this, IMO. I just wish she didn't have that "Fargo" accent. I can only listen to her for 10-15 min intervals before needing a break from that accent.

802 erisldysnomia  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:12:46pm

Quick poll:

How many people think those who broke into Palin's email, and those who republished the illegally obtained materials, should be formally charged with a federal crime and prosecuted?

(Maybe it would be better to ask who DOESN'T think they should be prosecuted.)

803 faraway  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:13:23pm

re: #802 erisldysnomia

Quick poll:

How many people think those who broke into Palin's email, and those who republished the illegally obtained materials, should be formally charged with a federal crime and prosecuted?

(Maybe it would be better to ask who DOESN'T think they should be prosecuted.)

Obama up on charges?

804 nightintheruts  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:13:51pm

re: #787 ggt

WTF?


Los Angeles is already there I think. they just outlawed fast food places in lower income areas.

Poor people embarrass us.
Fat people embarrass us.
Poor fat people must be terminated. Resistance is futile.

805 HDrepub  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:13:51pm

re: #759 J.S.

CNN Headline "news" just reported that S. Palin was using a personal email account to hide government business...No mention of the illegality of hacking into an email account, of course. it's the Leftist "priorities" of course.

CNN is lying. The hacker him/herself was disappointed he/she found nothing incriminating in her email.

I read though the emails… ALL OF THEM… before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor…. And pictures of her family

806 Archimedes  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:13:56pm

re: #769 Occasional Reader

Isn't it great that we have a Constitution you can fit in your jeans pocket?

The Euros didn't quite get that, did they.

The Founders understood the value of "principles" and they were men of reason.

I'm always amused by the U.N. Declaration of Rights, which actually is a mindless laundry list that obliterates rights. It's so third rate.

807 faraway  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:14:32pm

Thank you Matt Drudge.

Headline: Dirty Tricks

808 Silhouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:14:58pm

re: #791 lifeofthemind

You're right. I was confusing "one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves."

809 J.S.  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:15:20pm

re: #802 erisldysnomia

File papers -- "cease and desist" etc. -- including to that CNN Headline "news" dept.

810 code red 21  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:15:28pm

re: #537 EIDE_Interface

I do need to calm down. I will wear myself out at this rate.

Yes you seem to be getting the vapors.

811 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:15:34pm

re: #353 Dar ul Harb

Well, that didn't take too long.

More like this, please.

812 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:15:42pm

re: #788 David Simon

Do away with naked short selling? Okay, fine. Do away with all short selling? I don't agree. The fair market value is the price agreed upon by a willing buyer and seller. If there are adequate shares, and someone wants to borrow from their broker to sell them short, I have no problem.
A put is a totally different propostion. It's more akin to gambling. You're betting that the price of the underlying stock/index/commodity will fall within a set period of time. Unlike selling short, you can't hold the position indefinitely, because a put contract will expire.

That would be fine, but the uptick rule isn't enforced anymore.

813 ggt  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:16:01pm

see you-all upstairs ------->

814 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:16:10pm

re: #801 SagamoreGal

Just watching a little part of Sarah's performance in the Town Hall event just proves to me that she will take Joe Biden to the shed during the V.P. debates. The Palin family will be able to live off that meat for winters to come.

She's a natural at this, IMO. I just wish she didn't have that "Fargo" accent. I can only listen to her for 10-15 min intervals before needing a break from that accent.

I love the accent!
Sarah Palin spies: If you're reading this, tell her NOT to try the southern drawl routine! She's perfect as it is!

that is all (what poster says that? can you add the preface "now hear this"?)

815 Dianna  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:16:49pm

re: #726 Moe Katz

Well, then, he needs to be a little more open to us.

Frankly, the only reason I've been cutting him slack is because I remember him from before.

816 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:17:27pm

re: #802 erisldysnomia

Quick poll:

How many people think those who broke into Palin's email, and those who republished the illegally obtained materials, should be formally charged with a federal crime and prosecuted?

(Maybe it would be better to ask who DOESN'T think they should be prosecuted.)

I say we pants him and let Lyndie England take photos, point, and laugh.

817 J.S.  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:18:19pm

re: #805 HDrepub

Washington Post is reporting the same b.s. article here.

818 faraway  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:18:32pm

This isn't the first time Obama has been accused of dirty tricks.

Hillary on 12/4/2007

here


Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign is today accusing Sen. Barack Obama's campaign of conducting dirty tricks in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Patti Solis Doyle, Clinton's campaign manager, sent a letter to supporters. Here's the alert:

* Breaking Overnight: Nothing says the politics of hope like telling people to go to the wrong caucus locations or getting a negative push poll call during dinner. But that’s exactly what the Obama campaign is doing to Hillary supporters in IA and NH, HRC’s Patti Solis-Doyle warned in an email to supporters overnight. The Clinton campaign is setting up a dirty tricks hotline for people to phone in tips about unethical behavior from the Obama campaign.

819 HDrepub  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:18:42pm

re: #816 OldLineTexan

I say we pants him and let Lyndie England take photos, point, and laugh.

What if the "him" turns out to be a her?

820 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:19:01pm

re: #784 J.S.

What? ! You expect the Lame Stream Media to question an Obama talking point? Have you lost your mind? Look, they're campaigning for Obama -- they don't care about "facts." they only care about sliming, maligning Palin -- even if it includes fabrications...that's it.

I know- it's just that I, for one, am not going to allow that talking point without following it up with my counter claim. Do they have proof she used yahoo for government business, and if so, is it a violation of Alaska law.

It was raised earlier that any email conducting business on behalf of Alaska would have to be public. If that's the case, then those particular emails could have been made public. However- until there is proof, it's just another BS charge.

821 neocon hippie  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:19:27pm

re: #772 Silhouette

Problem loading page.

822 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:19:39pm

re: #806 Archimedes

I'm always amused by the U.N. Declaration of Rights, which actually is a mindless laundry list that obliterates rights. It's so third rate.

Lots of underdeveloped countries have that, too. Countries where lots of people don't have enough to eat, and their constitution embraces inter alia the "right to leisure". Ooookey dokey.

823 Racer X  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:19:49pm

re: #771 faraway

This is going to go down as the dirtiest campaign in the last 100 years.

Please.

This campaign is tame compared to some in the past.

824 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:19:54pm

re: #814 jwb7605

I love the accent!
Sarah Palin spies: If you're reading this, tell her NOT to try the southern drawl routine! She's perfect as it is!

I'd say it's endearing, and speaking as a Southerner, it's a bit of a refreshing change to hear.

825 J.S.  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:20:27pm

re: #818 faraway

The book "The Case against obama" is nothing other than a whole series of the dirty tricks of Obama and the Chicago Style Dirty Politics.

826 Moe Katz  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:21:01pm

re: #815 Dianna

Well, then, he needs to be a little more open to us.

Frankly, the only reason I've been cutting him slack is because I remember him from before.

I think he has been opening up a bit, and the group has generally been supportive. Don't you think so?

827 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:21:05pm

re: #819 HDrepub

What if the "him" turns out to be a her?

Basement-dwelling hacker. Male.

828 Archimedes  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:21:36pm

re: #785 nightintheruts

predatory animals.
I read a busload of cub or boy scouts were attacked going to the RNC one morning.
I'm not sure if it was confirmed or not - read it on NRO -but...
persons that would dump bleach or urine on another human, attack children...
hey wait...terrorists do that.

We do not negotiate with terrorists.


They stood on overpasses and dropped bags of cement on buses going to the convention. I wouldn't be surprised if that included boy scouts.

Several were busted with an arsenal of weapons.

These people are wall-eyed crazy. The rationalize by the absurd claim Bush is murdering people with his war on terrorism. That's Jill Greenberg's excuse.

829 lifeofthemind  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:22:07pm

re: #808 Silhouette

You're right. I was confusing "one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves."

Most of the Constitution was written so clearly that when you hit a lawyer's abortion like that it stands out. The whole 14th Amendment reads that way to me.

830 faraway  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:22:37pm

re: #823 Racer X

Please.

This campaign is tame compared to some in the past.

I qualified 100 years. Let me know of any in last 100 years that were dirtier.

831 David Simon  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:23:02pm

re: #812 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

That would be fine, but the uptick rule isn't enforced anymore.

And there never was a downtick rule. As long as there's a finite number of shares, I really don't see a problem.

832 Silhouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:23:06pm

re: #821 neocon hippie

That was jcm's link. But give me a sec....try this

If it doesn't work, search for "Heritage free constitution" and it should come up on the first page somewhere.

833 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:23:53pm

re: #800 hazzyday

And those will be King County(Seattle) ballots. And maybe they will disqualify some again from servicemen, then accidentally find a lost set of ballots behind a copier again, and then have disagreements over questionable ballots and produce a list of them that they give to democrat canvassers (ACORN). Then they give ACORN time to go knock on peoples doors to make their vote valid for the final tally. Which Rossi lost by some 100 plus votes. It was a total voting fiasco. I did lose my faith in the elections department here being manipulated by community organizers and then technicalities in the legal system. We need a national voter ID and the person has to physically show up and vote. I don't think the changes Reed made in the voting laws went far enough. Ever since that election office went high tech it has been a fiasco.

We'll see if Sam Reed's efforts have paid off. I don't envy him working in a hostile environment like that.

834 faraway  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:24:46pm

Obama's Committee to React to Palin's Yahoo (CREEPY) is on the case.

835 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:25:21pm

re: #832 Silhouette

That was jcm's link. But give me a sec....try this

If it doesn't work, search for "Heritage free constitution" and it should come up on the first page somewhere.

They have a glitch with the link, I thought I caught it.

836 Silhouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:25:30pm

Whaddya know! Kerry was ineligible for the Presidency all along

3. No person shall ... hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, ..who, having previously taken an oath... to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have ..given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

Edits for brevity; do not change meaning.

837 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:26:05pm

re: #835 jcm

They have a glitch with the link, I thought I caught it.

Remove the http:// form the link, leave the http://

838 J.S.  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:26:28pm

re: #820 Sharmuta

Yeah, I don't think "facts" matter in the least to a variety of "news" outlets...it's all about smears and fabrications...they just make stuff up as they go along...They have zero credibility...or -- correction -- actually I figure it's now into the negative (minus) area.

839 Silhouette  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:26:54pm

re: #835 jcm

They have a glitch with the link, I thought I caught it.

Mine doesn't work either.

Go with Plan B: Google Heritage Free Constitution, and it is the fourth one down.

840 jwb7605  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:27:10pm

re: #834 faraway

Obama's Committee to React to Palin's Yahoo (CREEPY) is on the case.

that's pretty good!
(*whack*, on general principles)

;-)

841 joncelli  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:27:52pm

re: #514 taxfreekiller

So you CAN write clearly! (and eloquently, I might add.)

842 David Simon  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:28:05pm

re: #829 lifeofthemind

Most of the Constitution was written so clearly that when you hit a lawyer's abortion like that it stands out. The whole 14th Amendment reads that way to me.

And it read like that to SCOTUS in Roe v Wade ;->

843 jcm  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:28:07pm

re: #837 jcm

Remove the http:// form the link, leave the http://

PIMF leave the https....

844 joekowalski247  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:28:18pm

(hypothetical debate between Biden and Palin)

MODERATOR:To Gov. Palin do you think your ready to be VP?
PALIN:Yes absolutely

MODERATOR:to Sen. Biden do you think shes ready to be VP
BIDEN:She's from Alaska! of course not!

the end

845 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:29:03pm

re: #838 J.S.

If anything- the illegal fishing expedition should have revealed at least one email conducting official business. They didn't find one. But let's not let that little fact get in the way of our spin, shall we?

846 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:29:10pm

re: #620 BlueCanuck

Hey there, saw the commercial you were talking about in the early morning dead thread. If you have youtube banned at work why not the conservative party web site? They have all the commercials there.

It was the "Gamble 1" ad I saw, Blue. Video won't play from the CPC Website either. They must have some heavy-duty filtering on this connection. I can't play streaming audio, either.

But the ad is getting broadcast on the networks, which is what counts!

847 joncelli  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:29:23pm

re: #527 jacksontn

Everything on a man goes to the stomach, eventually; on a woman, to the hips.

848 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:29:36pm

re: #843 jcm

I remove the one in the form box, leave the one I copy from the link.

849 wrl1984  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:29:57pm

I'm sure Alan Combs is behind this! ;)

850 gunther5612  Wed, Sep 17, 2008 8:30:15pm

I would like to issue a challenge to all those people out there who have said, and who will say, that Governor Palin must have something to hide otherwise "she wouldn't be afraid to have her private emails published":

This is the challenge to them:

Find the most public forum you can find (especially a site that espouses the exact opposite of what you believe in) and post your private email provider, private email address, and yo