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Sarah Palin on H and C, Part 2

Politics | Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:11:47 pm PDT

A thread to discuss part 2 of Sarah Palin’s interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity...

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1 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:12:20pm

She rocks.

2 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:12:54pm

and it doesn't hurt that she's goodlooking, also.

3 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:13:04pm
4 gibsonz  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:13:42pm

I wish she was the top of the ticket!

5 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:13:54pm

(though she did sorta dodge the "bush doctrine" question ... I'm sure we'll hear about it again.

6 livefreeor die  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:14:14pm

re: #2 noshariaincanada

and it doesn't hurt that she's goodlooking, also.

Michelle Obama is so jealous.

7 lamaestra  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:14:18pm

She is so her game on tonight! Much stronger than yesterday. Fun to watch her.

8 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:14:24pm

I still wish anyone from fox but sean had been given this interview.

9 Halman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:15:35pm

Anyone know of a link for video feed of this ? Do not have cable. Only internet. Would be grateful.

10 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:15:40pm

re: #6 livefreeor die

Michelle Obama is so jealous.

she was resentful/angry about America even before Palin rained on her parade. Can you just imagine her inner seething now?

11 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:15:54pm

T-ball.

/Hannity is the tee

12 Luigi  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:17:07pm

She seems a lot more natural tonight. Quite appealing again.

13 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:17:16pm

Some thoughts on the financial crisis.

Oil increasing by a factor of 6 in less than 15 months was a global blow to growth, it was the inevitable slip into recession that sent everything into freefall. Coupled with a war and several industries that never quite recovered from 9-11 and we are in the perfect storm.

Going forward, there are some smart things that need to happen with regards to financial institutions. First we need to restore the regional/state banks that were rolled up in mergers to give us the very institutions that were supposed to be "too big to fail." It turns out they were too big to let fail and we will be paying it off for a long time. Bank should be allowed to operate any number of branches in up to 4 contiguous states. All national banks can have up to 10 business offices in every state with up to 30 in in California, Florida and Texas. This arrange does several things- it restores post depression State based banking while fostering national competition. It is also advisable to re-establish the old interbank syndication of larger loans, this will force large financings to pass multiple risk analysis desks and share risk among institutions.

The next major change is to require insurance premiums to be paid by buyers in transactions and charge higher premiums for riskier transactions. Options and derivatives are not wrong top create, what is wrong is not to require purchasers of securities to pay a premium to a national investor protection fund that guarantees investors' holdings against messes like the one we are now seeing.

Savings, we need to build up more our wealth into savings accounts. Making the interest on the first 100,000 in savings accounts tax free will give a valuable advantage to basic savings and incentivize people people to not borrow up to their eyeballs.

We have experienced a humbling lesson over the last couple of weeks, we are not out of the woods yet. The good news is that even if the whole thing does melt into the sewers, the human capital of this nation will allow us to rebuild. I hope it never comes to that but we remain the wealthiest society in human history but we need to manage our affairs better.

14 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:17:25pm

re: #6 livefreeor die

So are Hillary, Joy Behar, Whoppi Goldberg,Gloria Steinham and the Obama.

15 livefreeor die  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:17:25pm

re: #10 noshariaincanada

she was resentful/angry about America even before Palin rained on her parade. Can you just imagine her inner seething now?

She will make an excellent Sith Lord.

16 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:17:58pm

re: #7 lamaestra

She is so her game on tonight! Much stronger than yesterday. Fun to watch her.

/it's all one "interview".

/they just split the McCain/Palin campaign commercial into two nights for maximum milkage

17 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:18:07pm

re: #6 livefreeor die
don'r vote for the "cute" chick : }

18 winston06  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:18:38pm

she is a great woman

19 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:19:06pm

lol, the Gov compliments Biden on his experience then mentions that she was in 2nd grade when he was first elected.OUCH!

20 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:19:39pm

re: #13 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

I really like your suggestions.

21 kingkenrod  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:20:00pm

She's better tonight.

22 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:20:07pm

Just stop scaring me! I keep vividly seeing myself skinny, dressed in rags, selling applies on a street corner in the freezing cold!

re: #13 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Some thoughts on the financial crisis.

Oil increasing by a factor of 6 in less than 15 months was a global blow to growth, it was the inevitable slip into recession that sent everything into freefall. Coupled with a war and several industries that never quite recovered from 9-11 and we are in the perfect storm.

Going forward, there are some smart things that need to happen with regards to financial institutions. First we need to restore the regional/state banks that were rolled up in mergers to give us the very institutions that were supposed to be "too big to fail." It turns out they were too big to let fail and we will be paying it off for a long time. Bank should be allowed to operate any number of branches in up to 4 contiguous states. All national banks can have up to 10 business offices in every state with up to 30 in in California, Florida and Texas. This arrange does several things- it restores post depression State based banking while fostering national competition. It is also advisable to re-establish the old interbank syndication of larger loans, this will force large financings to pass multiple risk analysis desks and share risk among institutions.

The next major change is to require insurance premiums to be paid by buyers in transactions and charge higher premiums for riskier transactions. Options and derivatives are not wrong top create, what is wrong is not to require purchasers of securities to pay a premium to a national investor protection fund that guarantees investors' holdings against messes like the one we are now seeing.

Savings, we need to build up more our wealth into savings accounts. Making the interest on the first 100,000 in savings accounts tax free will give a valuable advantage to basic savings and incentivize people people to not borrow up to their eyeballs.

We have experienced a humbling lesson over the last couple of weeks, we are not out of the woods yet. The good news is that even if the whole thing does melt into the sewers, the human capital of this nation will allow us to rebuild. I hope it never comes to that but we remain the wealthiest society in human history but we need to manage our affairs better.

23 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:20:15pm

re: #13 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

SEC to temporarily ban short-selling: report

/and tomorrow's options expiration day, huge mistake

24 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:20:45pm

i'd like to see a conservative man give birth

25 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:20:59pm

what sick comments

26 godfrey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:21:00pm

re: #13 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Damn, that is good stuff. I like this best:

First we need to restore the regional/state banks

There is this dementia going around these days that "globalization" equals "centralization." We see it in the EU, we see it in any number of things. Clue bat: centralization tends toward monopoly, and monopoly ossifies. What's needed, as always, is healthy competition. That applies to banks, to business, and even to nations. Let a number of models exist, compete, and may the best one win.

27 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:21:01pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

I still wish anyone from fox but sean had been given this interview.

Greg Gutfeld?

28 LEGION  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:21:16pm

Come on Sarah- get Mclame to take shots at the demonrats not fellow Republicans who have nothing to do with it!

29 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:21:34pm

re: #21 kingkenrod

She's better tonight.

/it's the same interview, conducted on Tuesday, IIRC

30 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:21:35pm

How's she doing?

I'm cooking and I have no TV in my kitchen.

31 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:22:12pm

re: #23 Killian Bundy

SEC to temporarily ban short-selling: report

/and tomorrow's options expiration day, huge mistake

See? You're scaring me again. Stop it!

32 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:22:13pm

re: #27 DoubleU

lol, maybe Brit Hume.

33 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:22:16pm

re: #10 noshariaincanada

she was resentful/angry about America even before Palin rained on her parade. Can you just imagine her inner seething now?

WAB has a CBF.

34 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:22:18pm

re: #30 Ringo the Gringo

But you have a computer?

35 least  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:22:29pm

Unlike its originator, I b'lieve McCain/Palin would actually put the Bush Doctrine into use.
Right now it's just rhetoric.

36 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:22:49pm

re: #28 LEGION

Come on Sarah- get Mclame to take shots at the demonrats not fellow Republicans who have nothing to do with it!

You mean like this?

37 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:23:14pm

yaya with science teacher dad

38 Luigi  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:23:40pm

Her dad's a science teacher! So much for her wanting to foist creationism.

39 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:23:52pm

re: #5 noshariaincanada

(though she did sorta dodge the "bush doctrine" question ... I'm sure we'll hear about it again.

If Bush were to come out publicly and state his doctrine as clearly as he usually does, we could still honestly ask what the Bush doctrine is.

I don't dislike Bush ... I just can't figure out Texan sometimes.

40 alien_mind  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:24:07pm

she gave a great answer about the media cheapshots.
says that there are much more important issues that people in America are dealing with. gives example of a family losing a family member in Irag.

great Sarah, let it roll off your back!

41 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:24:14pm

re: #27 DoubleU

Greg Gutfeld?

I'd tape it!

42 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:24:46pm

re: #34 DoubleU

But you have a computer?


I have my laptop, can I watch on my computer?

43 right_in_canada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:25:16pm

re: #10 noshariaincanada

she was resentful/angry about America even before Palin rained on her parade. Can you just imagine her inner seething now?

Michelle "the Mouth" is bearing her fangs now !

44 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:25:16pm

re: #41 jwb7605
[Link: activitypit.ning.com...]

45 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:25:25pm

re: #39 jwb7605

If Bush were to come out publicly and state his doctrine as clearly as he usually does, we could still honestly ask what the Bush doctrine is.

I don't dislike Bush ... I just can't figure out Texan sometimes.

I'm with you, but I am just pointing out that the MSM and/or LLL bloggers will probably be on this.

46 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:26:24pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

I still wish anyone from fox but sean had been given this interview.

Doocy?

47 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:26:35pm

re: #43 right_in_canada

I wonder how long they can hide her... they kept Tear-Re-zah out of site but Michelle wont tolerate it.

48 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:27:21pm

re: #46 OldLineTexan

Doocy?

Why not? Does Doocy invite pukeanan on Fox & Friends?

49 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:27:28pm

re: #31 Tigger2005

See? You're scaring me again. Stop it!

Hard to say which direction the market will actually go tomorrow, probably up, it just won't work correctly.

/sort of like saying, well, you can bet on the (last week's) Monday Night Football game, but you can only bet on Dallas

50 Luigi  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:27:33pm

She's doing great tonight. She just explained about so-called Troopergate in the most cogent way. Also, about the guy wanting to "Taser my nephew."

51 right_in_canada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:27:41pm

re: #47 DoubleU

I wonder how long they can hide her... they kept Tear-Re-zah out of site but Michelle wont tolerate it.

Heh. The "queen of Ketchup" . I hear she wanted to paint the country red ! ;-)

52 SagamoreGal  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:27:49pm

Best comment of the interview, IMO, was about the "thick skin".

What a warm, classy lady. The people of Alaska (well, 80% of them) are going to miss her over the next 4-12 years.

53 ZardozZ  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:27:50pm

McCain and Palin need to help the American people draw the connections between, sub-prime cheap money, Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac the democrats favorite charity organizations. Chris Dodd and Barney Frank protected these two agencies from reform --- want proof ? Go visit Stockton Calif where most of the foreclosures are in the state from bad loans to mostly lower income people who thought nothing of buying homes they could not afford with the help of the Fannie and Freddie Democrat Welfare plan...

54 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:27:57pm

re: #46 OldLineTexan

Doocy?

My guess is we get to see that on "Fox and Friends" in the near future.
Should be good!

55 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:29:03pm

re: #48 Sharmuta

Why not? Does Doocy invite pukeanan on Fox & Friends?

My thinking is that he's a worse lightweight than Hannity. YMMV. "Anyone" is a dangerously broad term. I wish they had used Brit Hume.

56 right_in_canada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:29:20pm

Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac

There's two names I have heard way too much this week.

They sound like a couple of friggin' Hee Haw characters.

57 MeCurious  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:30:47pm

Have there been previous discussions here about Sean that I missed. Why is everyone against him?

58 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:30:59pm

re: #53 ZardozZ

McCain and Palin need to help the American people draw the connections between, sub-prime cheap money, Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac the democrats favorite charity organizations.

Too many people involved want Obama so it wont stick.

59 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:31:00pm

re: #55 OldLineTexan

My thinking is that he's a worse lightweight than Hannity. YMMV. "Anyone" is a dangerously broad term. I wish they had used Brit Hume.

Doocy is a weatherman turned straightman and enjoys the role.
And he is good at it.
And he knows he is good at it.

My second choice would be Neil Cavuto behind Brit Hume.

60 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:32:26pm

re: #57 MeCurious

Have there been previous discussions here about Sean that I missed. Why is everyone against him?

He ♥ pat buchanan.

61 WhiteRasta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:32:42pm

re: #56 right_in_canada

Oh, I disagree with you there.

Stefan Dionne and Taliban Jack (Ass) Layton sound like a pair of hee-haw characters.

62 Luigi  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:33:21pm

What a charming Obama fan!

Dallas Mavericks' Josh Howard disrespects national anthem

In a video posted on YouTube, the swingman is shown at Allen Iverson's charity flag football game in July. When the national anthem is being sung, various participants are shown mugging for the camera. When the camera gets to Howard, he says: " 'The Star-Spangled Banner' is going on. I don't celebrate this [expletive]. I'm black."

Howard goes on to make a difficult-to-discern comment that includes a reference to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]

63 MeCurious  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:33:29pm

Well, now I understand. Thanks.

64 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:33:30pm

re: #56 right_in_canada

Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac

There's two names I have heard way too much this week.

They sound like a couple of friggin' Hee Haw characters.

The new, consolidated entity will be known as Billy Joe Jim Bob.

65 right_in_canada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:33:36pm

re: #61 WhiteRasta

Oh, I disagree with you there.

Stefan Dionne and Taliban Jack (Ass) Layton sound like a pair of hee-haw characters.


Hence why my "X" will be for Harper on Oct.14 :-)

66 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:33:38pm

re: #53 ZardozZ

McCain and Palin need to help the American people draw the connections between, sub-prime cheap money, Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac the democrats favorite charity organizations. Chris Dodd and Barney Frank protected these two agencies from reform --- want proof ? Go visit Stockton Calif where most of the foreclosures are in the state from bad loans to mostly lower income people who thought nothing of buying homes they could not afford with the help of the Fannie and Freddie Democrat Welfare plan...

I hope they do exactly this over the next week. They have no choice.

67 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:33:53pm

re: #50 Luigi
It wasn't "wanting, but tazered her nephew. and.. someone else?

68 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:33:57pm

re: #53 ZardozZ

Er, you leave out the speculators. Like the mayor of Stockton, who got caught with 6 properties.

He forgot that 30% returns in one year were a recent - and clearly temporary - event in the real estate market.

69 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:34:17pm

So, will Senator Obama or Senator McCain debate Dinnerjacket?

Or should we let Governor Palin embarrass the little turd?

I know which option I like.

70 Luigi  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:35:03pm

re: #67 willowone

Sorry if I misquoted her.

71 alien_mind  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:35:37pm

thats it, i'm officially in love.
she just listed Reagan and Thatcher as her top inspirations

72 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:35:59pm

re: #66 EIDE_Interface

73 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:36:11pm

re: #70 Luigi
no problem, i just went back on record to clarify.

74 lilliew  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:36:16pm

Reagen, Thatcher and Lincoln. I like this lady!

75 Luigi  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:36:50pm

She's just wonderful tonight.

76 right_in_canada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:37:16pm

For Friends of Fannie and Freddie
....

77 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:37:27pm

re: #75 Luigi

She's just wonderful tonight.

I hear Eric Clapton...

78 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:37:34pm

re: #75 Luigi

She's just wonderful tonight.

I wont trust you guys, I will wait and see how pissed off the left is and then that will be my judge.

79 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:37:50pm

re: #75 Luigi
very poised, real and not snarky, i like her alot.

80 CapeCoddah  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:37:54pm

HI all,
Biden is hiding in a small, dark hole somewhere shaking like a leaf right about now. Someone get him a valium, or 6. He is yesterdays toast.

81 WhiteRasta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:37:56pm

re: #65 right_in_canada

I have convinced BOTH of my daughters to put their X on Harper.

#1 Daughter is doing environmental sciences and #2 daughter is doing sociology.

(Both at Ivy League Universities.)

82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:38:09pm

re: #69 OldLineTexan

Effing ditto.

83 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:38:14pm

gov. palin is doing so well. she is so calm, grounded, focused and personable.
i love how she said she knew what she was in store for when she signed on as vp and she's tuff enough to handle it.

84 JacksonTn  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:38:20pm

I tivo'd Palin and just watched Orielly segment on Obama. The person he was interviewing was an Obama supporter. She said Valerie Jarrett would probably be Chief of State. Next they are going to bring back Al Capone ... Chicago Gangland.

85 Palandine  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:38:24pm

re: #57 MeCurious

Have there been previous discussions here about Sean that I missed. Why is everyone against him?

He's as much of a lightweight as Colmes.

Can't argue dispassionately, just gets all het up and starts repeating the same question over and over. On the talk radio station here in St. Louis, the drive time guy, who's pretty middle of the road, points out that Hannity always seems to "be up against a hard break" whenever he's losing an argument. :) Pretty well true.

He's a conservative, but he's no Rush.

86 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:38:44pm

re: #77 OldLineTexan
nice tune

87 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:38:53pm

re: #72 Sharmuta

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Excellent ad! Finally McCain is fighting back, and with facts!

88 Jimash  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:38:59pm

HAnnity throws softballs, but in this case with so much BS flying around, just a straight question and her straight answers are of value.
Creationist lie=disassembled
Religion= not gonna shove it down your throat.
This info will go unnoticed by the "others".

89 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:39:14pm

re: #87 EIDE_Interface

Oh ye of little faith.

90 Thanos  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:39:26pm

Freedom and Independence, yep that sums up Alaska.

91 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:39:37pm

re: #89 Sharmuta

Oh ye of little faith.

I needed reassuring...

92 allah this  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:39:47pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

I still wish anyone from fox but sean had been given this interview.

I say let her go a few rounds with skeletor.

93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:39:52pm

I am looking more forward to the VP debates than the POTUS. Am I alone?

But I am also reeeeaaaallllly looking forward to the POTUS debates.

94 right_in_canada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:40:10pm

re: #81 WhiteRasta

I have convinced BOTH of my daughters to put their X on Harper.

#1 Daughter is doing environmental sciences and #2 daughter is doing sociology.

(Both at Ivy League Universities.)

Sounds like you have some smart young ladies WR , my son doesn't turn 18 until next March unfortunately. But he thinks the same way too.

95 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:40:13pm

re: #77 OldLineTexan

I hear Eric Clapton...

/Slowhand

96 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:40:17pm

re: #88 Jimash

HAnnity throws softballs, but in this case with so much BS flying around, just a straight question and her straight answers are of value.
Creationist lie=disassembled
Religion= not gonna shove it down your throat.
This info will go unnoticed by the "others".

Particularly when so many people get their "analysis" off "Daily Show", "Colbert Report" and "Bill Maher".

97 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:40:32pm

Valerie Bowman was born on November 14, 1956 in Shiraz, Iran, where her father, Dr. James Bowman, ran a hospital for poor children.[2] Her father, a pathologist and geneticist, is Professor Emeritus in Pathology and Medicine, University of Chicago.[3] Her mother, Barbara Bowman, is an early childhood education expert and co-founder of the Erikson Institute for child development.[2][4] Her maternal grandfather, Robert Taylor was the head of the Chicago Housing Authority in the 1940s.[5][6] At age 5, the family moved to London for one year, then returned to Chicago in 1963.

She received a B.A. in Psychology from Stanford University in 1978, and a JD from the University of Michigan Law School in 1981.

She was married to William Robert Jarrett from 1983 to 1988. They had one child - a daughter - who is currently a Harvard Law student

98 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:40:49pm

OK.

She was excellent!

Part one was just ok. Part two was great.

99 kaziggy2  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:40:58pm

I think she is such strong lady and I think she is being underestimated because of her looks and because she is not angry and loud like Billary! She did even better tonite than last nite and I have every confidence that each interview she does will be better and better. Go Palin!

100 Jimash  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:41:05pm

re: #96 EIDE_Interface

Don't get me started on Bill Maher. I get the "willies"

101 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:41:07pm

re: #85 Palandine

He's as much of a lightweight as Colmes.

Can't argue dispassionately, just gets all het up and starts repeating the same question over and over. On the talk radio station here in St. Louis, the drive time guy, who's pretty middle of the road, points out that Hannity always seems to "be up against a hard break" whenever he's losing an argument. :) Pretty well true.

He's a conservative, but he's no Rush.

Well put.

102 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:41:10pm

Jarrent continued to work in the mayor's office in the 1990s. She was Deputy Chief of Staff for Mayor Richard Daley, during which time (1991) she hired Michelle Robinson, then engaged to Barack Obama, away from a private law firm. Jarrett served Commissioner of the Department of Planning and Development from 1992 through 1995; and was Chair of the Chicago Transit Board from 1995 to 2003

103 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:41:22pm

According to the msm those who support Gov Palin are white trash? Pardon me, but that is UPSCALE white trash to you Obamatons.

104 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:41:28pm

Her first interview was hard.
Second was friendly and easy.
Third will be middle of the road.

She needed a friendly interview so people can see who she is and what she stands for.

GOTCHA questions don't really tell the whole story.

105 Luigi  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:41:31pm

Hannity's not really soft-balling her. He's reaching for information. He's just not playing gotcha.

106 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:41:35pm

re: #92 allah this

I say let her go a few rounds with skeletor.

Ugh! I think a Chris Wallace or Brit Hume would have been fine. They would have been polite but I trust they'd ask good questions too. Going with hannity just gives the lefties the talking point that she was handled with kid gloves, but they probably would say that about anyone from fox.

107 Happy Fun Ball  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:41:38pm

Well, that 40 minutes went by quick.

Too quick...

108 Palandine  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:42:08pm

re: #62 Luigi

What a charming Obama fan!

Dallas Mavericks' Josh Howard disrespects national anthem

In a video posted on YouTube, the swingman is shown at Allen Iverson's charity flag football game in July. When the national anthem is being sung, various participants are shown mugging for the camera. When the camera gets to Howard, he says: " 'The Star-Spangled Banner' is going on. I don't celebrate this [expletive]. I'm black."

Howard goes on to make a difficult-to-discern comment that includes a reference to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]

Dear Mr. Howard,

You are a multimillionaire who gets paid ridiculously sums of money for playing a game. Please feel free to move to a country where you won't have to put up with this [expletive] and where you can have the freedoms and lifestyle you enjoy here. Good luck finding one.

That is all.

109 WhiteRasta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:42:17pm

re: #94 right_in_canada

Thank you. They are both very smart. Attending univ on scholarships.

110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:42:47pm

Self deleting regarding Hannity.

111 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:42:55pm

So, she loves her family, country and life. The horror!

112 MeCurious  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:42:56pm

re: #85 Palandine

He's no Rush, I agree. But I thought he did a pretty good job tonight. Certainly better than Gibson.

113 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:43:06pm
114 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:43:32pm

re: #108 Palandine

Dear Mr. Howard,

You are a multimillionaire who gets paid ridiculously sums of money for playing a game. Please feel free to move to a country where you won't have to put up with this [expletive] and where you can have the freedoms and lifestyle you enjoy here. Good luck finding one.

That is all.

He's learned from Jeremiah's Wright's "Black Liberation Theology" well.

115 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:43:45pm

my love of this country, feels so Not Obama like..so proud, mistakes and learn from them, compelled to respond

116 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:44:08pm

I just can't stand Hannity. A blowhard with 0 depth. Heck, even O'Reilly is better. No comparison to the great El Rushbo.

117 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:44:13pm

i like her, G-d give her and family strength

118 WhiteRasta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:44:26pm

re: #111 vagabond trader

Damn, if there would ever be an American politician who would be pro-American.

119 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:44:46pm

re: #23 Killian Bundy

SEC to temporarily ban short-selling: report

/and tomorrow's options expiration day, huge mistake

That's - nutty.

120 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:45:03pm

re: #95 Killian Bundy

/Slowhand

Can you imagine being at the concert? The stupid guy and his girlfriend/wife are singing along (full voice) right beside you?

Don't you just want to punch them out?!

121 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:45:18pm

ick i really dislike colmes

122 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:45:34pm

re: #56 right_in_canada

Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac

There's two names I have heard way too much this week.

They sound like a couple of friggin' Hee Haw characters.

Some might say that this has been the week's theme song.

123 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:45:35pm

I hear WaMu is going down, should I pull my funds?

124 Luigi  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:45:44pm

The futures are gigantic for tomorrow...

[Link: money.cnn.com...]

125 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:45:45pm
126 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:45:56pm

re: #121 willowone

ick i really dislike colmes

I despise Skeletor the Pig, and I don't not use that verb lightly.

127 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:46:12pm

re: #126 Catttt

I despise Skeletor the Pig, and I don't not use that verb lightly.

Dang. DO not.

128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:46:14pm

re: #123 EIDE_Interface

If I had funds...I would have pulled them days ago.

129 Palandine  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:46:15pm

re: #103 vagabond trader

According to the msm those who support Gov Palin are white trash? Pardon me, but that is UPSCALE white trash to you Obamatons.

The MSM treats us like garbage, now they're just saying what they REALLY feel.

I'm glad of the honesty. If the left thought well of me, I'd wonder what was wrong.

130 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:46:21pm

re: #104 Typicalwhitey

No, but if she's not getting rattled by any of them, then those gotcha's aren't going to have much of an effect and the transparency of those attempts becomes all the clearer.

I think the more gotchas attempted the better - toughens her up for 4+ years more of this nonsense. If McCain's people have done a good job vetting, there's no there there. And it exposes the media's bias even further.

I don't actually mind having a hostile media, if they're fair. That helps keep everyone on their toes and makes sure everyone is doing their job.

The problem is that this current media is hostile and biased in one direction and they think they're the deciders.

Hoping that some media outlets go soft to help doesn't help.

131 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:46:54pm

She did great, absolutely great! I especially like the "thick skin" comment. That goes for all those who think they'll get her to drop out by constantly attacking her.

132 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:47:06pm

hannity did great. it wasn't a gibson type interview, of course, because hannity likes her. he wants her to win and makes no bones abt. it.
these interviews were abt. letting gov. palin speak to the country w/ out some asshole trying to trip her up.

133 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:47:09pm

re: #111 vagabond trader

So, she loves her family, country and life. The horror!

This WILL piss off any liberal. Name one liberal that likes any of those things.

134 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:47:20pm

re: #125 buzzsawmonkey
Not if we don't want it to.

135 Racer X  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:47:32pm

Sarah Palin will be president one day.

136 rightymouse  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:47:56pm

re: #121 willowone

ick i really dislike colmes

Do you ever get the impression that Colmes isn't that wild about himself either?

137 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:47:58pm

re: #125 buzzsawmonkey

One thought before I duck out:

Time was, "frontier" was a shorthand for the virtues that were considered to be essentially American.

Alaska is the closest thing to a frontier we still have. Yet it is precisely the fact that Sarah Palin is from this frontier area that her opponents are trying to use against her. "Small population," "hick mayor," "unfamiliar with the Big World," "unsophisticated": these are all ways in which her embodiment of the American frontier and its virtues are being belittled.

Will this be the election in which America overtly rejects its frontier roots for its landscaped roots in a planned suburban subdivision?

I live in a subdivision. It's been recently landscaped by the famous Carribbean blowhard, Ike.

So what part of my frontier heritage is at risk?

138 CapeCoddah  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:48:29pm

I dont know if this has been posted here yet or not, but I heard a this story today. Another violation of the Logan Act, Pelosi's trip to negotiate with terrorists being the first. Now Obama. He has some balls.
[Link: www.nypost.com...]

139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:48:34pm

re: #125 buzzsawmonkey

Ever been to Delaware? Talk about frontier.

140 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:48:35pm

re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If I had funds...I would have pulled them days ago.

But that could start a bank run. FDIC insured up to 100K after all.

141 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:48:51pm

re: #136 rightymouse
You're right, It is a significant observation. I think it is Normal for Left.

142 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:49:19pm

re: #123 EIDE_Interface

I hear WaMu is going down, should I pull my funds?

Don't panic. If you aren't sure what to do, get professional advice.

143 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:49:26pm

re: #138 CapeCoddah
and with that and McDermott, we can see what happens, Nada..

144 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:49:28pm
145 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:49:39pm

re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever been to Delaware? Talk about frontier.

They have good punch, for hicks that is.

146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:49:47pm

re: #137 OldLineTexan

I live in a subdivision. It's been recently landscaped by the famous Carribbean blowhard, Ike.

So what part of my frontier heritage is at risk?

Frontier heritage is only in the heart. (IMHO)

147 Palandine  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:49:56pm

re: #125 buzzsawmonkey

Will this be the election in which America overtly rejects its frontier roots for its landscaped roots in a planned suburban subdivision?

Not just "no," but "Hell, no!" :)

148 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:50:23pm

re: #136 rightymouse

Do you ever get the impression that Colmes isn't that wild about himself either?

Yes.

149 rightymouse  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:50:40pm

re: #135 Racer X

Sarah Palin will be president one day.


WOOT! :)

150 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:50:43pm

re: #123 EIDE_Interface

I hear WaMu is going down, should I pull my funds?

There was talk about JP Morgan buying them out but that might have fallen through. Citibank might be interested also, but it didn't attract many bids.

151 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:50:53pm

re: #148 Sharmuta

Yes.

I'd be like that if I looked like Skeletor.

152 wee fury  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:50:54pm

Funniest response I have ever seen from Colmes -- Hannity and Newt laughing at him. That's the way everyone -- laugh Colmes off the air!

153 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:50:55pm

re: #142 Catttt

Don't panic. If you aren't sure what to do, get professional advice.

If you are sure what to do.. you need professional advice.

154 red fish  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:51:08pm

Colmbs is being laughed at and , BOY, is he miffed!
He just has no clue, and he knows it, and he is trying so hard to the the "good liberal" and ask the "hard questions'.
pteh...
pitiful....

155 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:51:15pm

re: #140 EIDE_Interface

But that could start a bank run. FDIC insured up to 100K after all.

I only get about 6 pieces of mail from them a week. That's why I would pull.

How can they afford to do that? Unless they can't afford to do that?

156 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:51:39pm

re: #135 Racer X

Sarah Palin will be president one day.

Yes! ..and that's what really terrifies the loons.

157 Intrepid  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:51:43pm

re: #87 EIDE_Interface

Excellent ad! Finally McCain is fighting back, and with facts!

Oh, there's more than one good ad out today, my friend. Check out Hot Air - they've got a few. Good ones.

And I just saw a 527 ad on Fox that points out how wrong Obama was on the surge, using Obama's words juxtaposed with Gen Petraus' (sp?) words. At the end urging people to call Obama and tell him that the surge worked!

The Hannity and Colmes show is now 3rd in ratings and that ad will reach some folks!

158 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:51:44pm

re: #137 OldLineTexan

So what part of my frontier heritage is at risk?

I'd say your rawhide pool furniture probably took a beating.

159 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:51:45pm

re: #138 CapeCoddah

I dont know if this has been posted here yet or not, but I heard a this story today. Another violation of the Logan Act, Pelosi's trip to negotiate with terrorists being the first. Now Obama.

So? NOTHING will become of it.

160 rightymouse  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:51:55pm

re: #141 willowone

You're right, It is a significant observation. I think it is Normal for Left.


He's not comfortable with himself. That seems to be a problem for lefties. Yep.

161 rp1138  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:52:10pm

re: #136 rightymouse

Do you ever get the impression that Colmes isn't that wild about himself either?

Can you blame him? If I woke up one morning and found that I was Alan Combs, I'd probably jump off a cliff.

162 arethusa  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:52:11pm

So nice to have an interview where the editing didn't suck. And Alan Colmes has had two bad nights in a row, losing an argument to Karl Rove and being laughed at by Gingrich.

Somebody said last night they came away from this interview feeling like they knew her better, and I agree. So maybe it wasn't an "interview," but how many real interviews does Obama get? And we still don't have a good sense of who he is.

163 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:52:20pm

re: #152 wee fury

He got taken to the woodshed last night by Karl Rove.Two nights in a row.

164 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:52:22pm

re: #119 Catttt

That's - nutty.

/especially when all they need to do is enforce the existing law against naked shorting, this will substantially [expletive deleted] up orderly market operations tomorrow, the least they could do is give everyone the weekend to digest the new rules they're introducing into the middle of the game

165 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:52:25pm

re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Frontier heritage is only in the heart. (IMHO)

That's it, dammitalltohell. I am going out tomorrow morning and punch a cow! Then I am going to get a long little dogie. I may even roll a cigarette, and I don't even smoke.

166 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:52:25pm
167 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:52:48pm

re: #150 DoubleU

There was talk about JP Morgan buying them out but that might have fallen through. Citibank might be interested also, but it didn't attract many bids.

I wish I had a dollar for every credit card offer junk mail I got from WaMu. I could pay for a vacation to Jamaica.

168 rightymouse  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:53:01pm

re: #148 Sharmuta

Yes.

Yep. And you know I'm not talking about ego. It's that 'comfortable in skin' thing. He just does NOT have it at all.

169 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:53:06pm

re: #150 DoubleU

There was talk about JP Morgan buying them out but that might have fallen through. Citibank might be interested also, but it didn't attract many bids.

How's Citibank doing? Don't know a thing about this crap.

170 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:53:11pm

re: #123 EIDE_Interface

Short answer is not likely.

Your savings, checking, and money markets are safe - FDIC insured up to 100k (or more for joint accounts). SIPC protects certain kinds of investments.

Just stay cool. No need to start running to the bank on every rumor. That's what Chuck Schumer is for.

171 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:53:15pm

re: #151 EIDE_Interface

Look- while the man is obviously unattractive- he's ugly on the inside. This is the guy who tried to say Sarah Palin caused her son's Down syndrome because she traveled while pregnant.

If I was that cold hearted on the inside, I would hate myself.

172 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:53:25pm
173 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:53:28pm

Ripping Skeletor the Pig a new one, Part 2 - Newt.

174 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:53:40pm

re: #166 taxfreekiller

tfk thinks from the looks and body movement and eye motion and other keys that Alan Colmes is a severely depressed person, who is having trouble hiding it.

he's the most subordinate dog in the pack.

175 Palandine  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:53:51pm

Biden says taxation is patriotic.

The Lord God only needs 10%; why am I (who makes well less than $70k a year) paying close to 25% already between fed, state, local, and social security taxes?

PLEASE, 527s, start taking the game to the Dems! We should be ahead by 10 points in the polls now.

176 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:53:52pm

re: #130 lawhawk

No, but if she's not getting rattled by any of them, then those gotcha's aren't going to have much of an effect and the transparency of those attempts becomes all the clearer.

I think the more gotchas attempted the better - toughens her up for 4+ years more of this nonsense. If McCain's people have done a good job vetting, there's no there there. And it exposes the media's bias even further.

I don't actually mind having a hostile media, if they're fair. That helps keep everyone on their toes and makes sure everyone is doing their job.

The problem is that this current media is hostile and biased in one direction and they think they're the deciders.

Hoping that some media outlets go soft to help doesn't help.

I am just saying that not all of her interviews should be hard ones.
I think that all of the candidates should have hard, soft and medium interviews. It lets you see how they react in each one.

For instance, if she was one way with Hannity and then a total shrew with Couric that would tell me that she can't handle the heat.
Compare and contrast.

I think she responded in the same manner with her first interview, although you could tell she was more nervous (as anyone would be in their first national interview) as she did in this interview.
In other words, she is who she is.

177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:54:00pm

re: #165 OldLineTexan

Ding! (dammit)

178 Alouette  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:54:02pm

re: #47 DoubleU

I wonder how long they can hide her... they kept Tear-Re-zah out of site but Michelle wont tolerate it.

They let out the new Stepford Michelle for a test run on Paula Deen's cooking show.

179 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:54:11pm

re: #162 arethusa

Oh yeah, I know who the Obama is and I like it not!

180 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:54:16pm

re: #154 red fish

Sometimes I think Combs just acts so weak, like he can't attack. I also wonder if sometimes he knows something is wrong but has to take the other side.

181 Charles  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:54:36pm

Note that she unequivocally denied wanting to teach creationism. No waffling. Sigh of relief. Backs up what I've been writing.

182 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:54:53pm

re: #123 EIDE_Interface

I hear WaMu is going down, should I pull my funds?

No one can short it starting tomorrow.

/how can it go down?

183 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:55:26pm

re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They tore down the only frontier they had left, the Stone Balloon.

184 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:55:39pm

re: #123 EIDE_Interface

Where do you hear that WaMu is going down?

That rumour ran rampant a month ago, and it wasn't true. WaMu has stated it has ample cash on hand; that reserves are solid; and their bad loans are a less than the original speculations.

185 rightymouse  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:55:39pm

re: #161 rp1138

Can you blame him? If I woke up one morning and found that I was Alan Combs, I'd probably jump off a cliff.

He believes what he does for a reason. I'm not sure what that is, but it sounded good. lol!

186 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:55:45pm

re: #165 OldLineTexan

That's it, dammitalltohell. I am going out tomorrow morning and punch a cow!

I think you're supposed to start with a horse.

187 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:55:50pm

It will be interesting to see Katie Couric's interview with Sarah. She used to be called America's Sweetheart, but now Americans are falling for Sarah. Will Katie let any jealousy show?

188 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:56:04pm

re: #178 Alouette

Cooked up a nice big pot of bitter stew, did she?

189 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:56:16pm

tonite, I'm enjoying Newt Gingrich's contribution to the H&C show.

190 alien_mind  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:56:49pm

re: #135 Racer X

without a doubt.

191 gibsonz  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:56:59pm

If Alan weren`t such a raving moonbat I would actually feel sorry for him!

192 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:57:03pm

re: #183 formercorpsman

They tore down the only frontier they had left, the Stone Balloon.

Okay, I'll bite. Huh?

193 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:57:35pm

re: #169 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wouldn't say any bank is doing great now.

194 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:57:40pm

re: #158 Occasional Reader

I'd say your rawhide pool furniture probably took a beating.

Now that you mention it, the POOL is MISSING!

BOOOOOOOSH! From Hell's heart I stab at thee!

////

195 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:57:46pm

re: #163 vagabond trader

He got taken to the woodshed last night by Karl Rove.Two nights in a row.

Can someone give a link to Rove eating Colmes' head? I want my Male to watch it after he's finished reloading.

196 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:58:17pm

re: #168 rightymouse
I think (only a phychologist online) is that he knows he is wrong. and he isn't good at fibbing. he blusters and limps away. maybe he still has a soul.

197 livefreeor die  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:58:27pm

re: #178 Alouette

They let out the new Stepford Michelle for a test run on Paula Deen's cooking show.


Oh good Lord-what did she "cook"? Or did she order take-out?

198 Palandine  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:58:33pm

re: #165 OldLineTexan

That's it, dammitalltohell. I am going out tomorrow morning and punch a cow! Then I am going to get a long little dogie. I may even roll a cigarette, and I don't even smoke.

Authentic frontier gibberish!

/rarry!

199 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:58:41pm

re: #163 vagabond trader

He got taken to the woodshed last night by Karl Rove.Two nights in a row.

And not the trendy Brokeback way either. The old-fashioned kindling across your backside way.

200 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:59:07pm

re: #181 Charles

Note that she unequivocally denied wanting to teach creationism. No waffling. Sigh of relief. Backs up what I've been writing.

I know you were worried that she was going to suddenly say something that made you unhappy. I'm glad she has reassured you. And me.

201 alien_mind  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:59:14pm

re: #189 noshariaincanada

tonite, I'm enjoying Newt Gingrich's contribution to the H&C show.


me too. last night Rove ripped him apart, tonight Newt simply laughed at him. gotta love that!

202 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:59:15pm

re: #192 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

U of D, College hang out.

Long standing bar, Main Street, etc.

Condos for kids with rich parents now.

203 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:59:43pm

re: #164 Killian Bundy

/especially when all they need to do is enforce the existing law against naked shorting, this will substantially [expletive deleted] up orderly market operations tomorrow, the least they could do is give everyone the weekend to digest the new rules they're introducing into the middle of the game

They CAN'T permanently ban short selling - that is nutty. So this is - like - a time out.

204 Red fish  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:59:43pm

#180 doubleu
I have read on some blogs that many on the left do not like Combs...say he isn't tough enough...Hannity usually wipes him up, but he usually backs up what he says with facts.

205 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:59:45pm

re: #181 Charles

Note that she unequivocally denied wanting to teach creationism. No waffling. Sigh of relief. Backs up what I've been writing.

yes,
she's against creationism tho she said her faith is the foundation of her life.
no problem.

206 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 6:59:50pm

re: #200 Dianna
and me. re: troopergate

207 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:00:08pm

Sometimes I just crash. This is one of those times.

CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCRRRRRRRRUUNCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHH HH.

Night friends....

208 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:00:28pm

re: #181 Charles

I guess that addresses Joan Rivers' condescending question about Palin and creationism.

209 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:00:49pm

re: #187 Sharmuta

It will be interesting to see Katie Couric's interview with Sarah. She used to be called America's Sweetheart, but now Americans are falling for Sarah. Will Katie let any jealousy show?

she's going to file her teeth to a point.

210 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:01:17pm

Michelle Obama is a b**ch.

211 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:01:40pm

re: #164 Killian Bundy

/especially when all they need to do is enforce the existing law against naked shorting, this will substantially [expletive deleted] up orderly market operations tomorrow, the least they could do is give everyone the weekend to digest the new rules they're introducing into the middle of the game

In that link, it doesn't say WHEN they're doing this. It doesn't even say they've approved it yet. Is it just being assumed they're doing it tomorrow?

212 CapeCoddah  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:01:50pm

re: #208 lawhawk

In person, Joan Rivers is the most unattractive person I have ever met, in every single way you can think of. She is a pig.

213 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:02:09pm

re: #210 Catttt

Michelle Obama is a b**ch.

you're too kind.

214 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:02:20pm

There's the Frontier, and then there's the New Frontier.

215 WhiteRasta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:02:26pm

re: #181 Charles

I suspect the dems are going to get a real thrashing, come November.....

216 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:02:27pm

re: #209 nyc redneck

she's going to file her teeth to a point.

I really hope not. After all the misogyny we've seen, I hope Katie can at least be fair.

217 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:02:41pm

re: #204 Red fish

They don't like him,
1) He is on Fox News.
2) He is on Fox Radio.
3) He is outnumbered.

Randi Rhodes (formally of Air America) says he has Stockholm syndrome.

218 rightymouse  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:02:46pm

re: #196 willowone

I think (only a phychologist online) is that he knows he is wrong. and he isn't good at fibbing. he blusters and limps away. maybe he still has a soul.


The problem is that lefties don't stand for any principled thought. Principled ideas can be twisted every which way and they still stand true. Lefty ideology is a mish-mash of utter nonsense that cannot stand scrutiny. No wonder he's uncomfortable. Poor guy can't 'splain himself without sounding like an idiot.

219 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:02:53pm

I just heard that Sarah Palin was booted from the Anti-Ahmadinejad Rally because of Hillary.

220 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:02:57pm

re: #181 Charles

Note that she unequivocally denied wanting to teach creationism. No waffling. Sigh of relief. Backs up what I've been writing.

Yeah, but I bet you'd like to know whether she believes dinosaurs walked with man.

/personally, I'd be dissapointed, but it wouldn't bother me as long as she keeps it personal

221 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:03:01pm

re: #210 Catttt

You know Cattt, her whole personna, just seems hostile.

I've met her kind before. Sure is comfortable with letting everyone know what "the" problems are.

222 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:03:17pm

re: #215 WhiteRasta i/m praying for it, and stocking up on canned goods and other items.

223 Syrah  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:03:20pm

re: #210 Catttt

Michelle Obama is a b**ch.

A WAB?

224 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:03:33pm

Well, I'll wait and see on WaMu for now. I don't want to pull funds when I don't even have millions to worry about.

225 WhiteRasta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:03:48pm

re: #216 Sharmuta

You have more faith in the Donks than I do....

226 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:04:02pm

re: #210 Catttt

Michelle Obama is a b**ch.

No. She's a CBF.

227 Palandine  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:04:17pm

re: #208 lawhawk

I guess that addresses Joan Rivers' condescending question about Palin and creationism.

So easy old a caveman could have done her?

/I'm usually better than that ;)

228 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:04:32pm

re: #224 EIDE_Interface

You should, The Rumor mill is that the FDIC is not going to be able to cover all the failures.

229 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:04:34pm

re: #217 DoubleU

They don't like him,
1) He is on Fox News.
2) He is on Fox Radio.
3) He is outnumbered.

Randi Rhodes (formally of Air America) says he has Stockholm syndrome.

I really couldn't give a fart what that whack-job drunk has to say about anything.

230 godfrey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:04:36pm

re: #187 Sharmuta

Yes.

231 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:04:48pm

she talked abt. WINNING in iraq.
obama talks abt. 'gettin' our troops OUT'.
she's a winner.
he's a loser.

232 livefreeor die  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:04:51pm

re: #217 DoubleU

They don't like him,
1) He is on Fox News.
2) He is on Fox Radio.
3) He is outnumbered.

Randi Rhodes (formally of Air America) says he has Stockholm syndrome.

And she is on her way to Korsakoff's syndrome.

233 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:04:55pm

re: #212 CapeCoddah

Back in the early eighties I knew a girl who met Joan, I joked around that Joan was hot... the girl very quickly corrected me.

234 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:05:03pm

re: #225 WhiteRasta

You have more faith in the Donks than I do....

It's not the dems- I'd just like to think Sarah could get a fair shot from a fellow successful working mother. But don't worry- I won't hold my breath.

235 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:05:05pm

re: #214 MandyManners

There's the Frontier, and then there's the New Frontier.

And there's the Final Frontier, of course.

236 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:05:10pm
237 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:05:19pm

re: #220 Killian Bundy

Yeah, but I bet you'd like to know whether she believes dinosaurs walked with man.

/personally, I'd be dissapointed, but it wouldn't bother me as long as she keeps it personal

You don't know that Palin believes in THAT wacky type of Creationism.

238 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:05:24pm

re: #216 Sharmuta

Sharmuta, I am not optimistic.

I remember in an interview from a couple of years ago, it was pathetic how she fawned over Hillary.

Admiration is one things, but it was over the top.

They also do the "serious Katy" with the reading glasses as well.

239 WhiteRasta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:05:37pm

re: #227 Palandine

Who is Joan Rivers?

I have never heard of him .

240 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:05:43pm

re: #235 Catttt

And there's the Final Frontier, of course.

You got me there.

241 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:06:07pm

re: #228 Egfrow

You should, The Rumor mill is that the FDIC is not going to be able to cover all the failures.

Great, now the bank runs start! Stuff your money under the mattress!

That apple stand is looking more and more likely.

242 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:06:08pm

re: #236 buzzsawmonkey

I don't know what a CBF is, but I do know that she bears The Perpetual Scowl of the Incompetent Supervisor™.

Cat-Butt Face.

Think about it for a second or two.

243 Syrah  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:06:16pm

re: #239 WhiteRasta

Who is Joan Rivers?

I have never heard of him .

For Joan, no other comment could hurt more.

244 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:06:22pm

I need to find my acronym dictionary.

245 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:06:27pm

I have a feeling a lot more people are going to start ending their sentences with ", either" or ", also" regardless of whether McPalin wins the election.

246 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:06:37pm

re: #231 nyc redneck

she talks about love for america, he talks about all that is wrong with america
thats while i will vote republican

247 Sifty  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:06:48pm

She rocked.

And Newt laughed at the Incredible Melting Man.

I can sleep good tonight.

248 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:07:03pm

re: #234 Sharmuta

It's not the dems- I'd just like to think Sarah could get a fair shot from a fellow successful working mother. But don't worry- I won't hold my breath.

Oddly enough, I think Katie Couric will give a better interview than Gibson or Hannity.
Couric, regardless of being obviously partisan, has never seemed (to me) to be all that vindictive.

249 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:07:06pm

re: #72 Sharmuta

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

!

250 godfrey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:07:13pm

I've warmed up to Newt.

251 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:07:14pm

Wachovia is about the bought by Moragan Stanley who is about to be bailed out by over 50% investment from China.

252 mbabbitt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:07:15pm

I used to not like Hannity but I slowly came to respect him. He now reminds me of a tough bulldog who keeps on pounding on specific points never forgetting to get his bite in. Thank G_d for Hannity's persistence and good heart.

253 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:07:21pm

re: #219 Egfrow

I just heard that Sarah Palin was booted from the Anti-Ahmadinejad Rally because of Hillary.

Yep.

254 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:07:25pm

re: #239 WhiteRasta

Albino dude who played guitar.....

255 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:07:25pm

re: #241 Tigger2005

Great, now the bank runs start! Stuff your money under the mattress!

That apple stand is looking more and more likely.

Let's not panic. Sure FDIC can't cover all deposits - but it was never intended to allow ALL the people to withdraw all their funds at once. If people just keep their heads, there will be no problem.

256 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:07:43pm

re: #229 EIDE_Interface

Just telling you how the left feels about her.
She actually has more relaxed now that she has left Air America, still completely whacked out on stupid, but not screaming-spitting whacked out.

257 CapeCoddah  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:07:46pm

re: #233 DoubleU

She is a mean, nasty, petty, cruel, unhappy mega bitch. And those are her good qualities. She did a concert out here about 10 years ago, and hired my company to provide limousine service. I drove her the first day, then I canceled the job. No way was I putting my people in that line of fire. Told her to walk, right to her face.

258 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:07:51pm

re: #241 Tigger2005

Great, now the bank runs start! Stuff your money under the mattress!

That apple stand is looking more and more likely.

I'm not panicking.

259 Intrepid  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:07:58pm

re: #181 Charles

Note that she unequivocally denied wanting to teach creationism. No waffling. Sigh of relief. Backs up what I've been writing.

Have a beer on us, Charles!

260 livefreeor die  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:07:58pm

re: #248 jwb7605

Oddly enough, I think Katie Couric will give a better interview than Gibson or Hannity.
Couric, regardless of being obviously partisan, has never seemed (to me) to be all that vindictive.


I don't know. Her ratings are in the tank. She needs to "prove" herself to the same masters that enabled Dan Rather for so long.

261 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:08:00pm

What's this I'm hearing about Obiden mouthing off about taxes today?

262 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:08:05pm

re: #238 formercorpsman

She doesn't have to be intentionally easy- just fair. We'll see if she can't find a decent middle ground between gibson & hannity.

But again- I'm not going to hold my breath.

263 godfrey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:08:12pm

I'm not panicking, either.

264 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:08:15pm

re: #244 Catttt

I need to find my acronym dictionary.

WAB has a CBF.

Whiny-Assed Bitch has a Catt-Butt Face.

265 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:08:18pm

re: #203 Catttt

They CAN'T permanently ban short selling - that is nutty. So this is - like - a time out.

/the more I think about it, if they actually do this, they're effectively lopping off almost all the downside of putting on long trades, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, they've effectively lashed the bear to a tree, deep in the woods, who cares if it [expletive deleted]?

266 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:08:31pm

re: #241 Tigger2005

Great, now the bank runs start! Stuff your money under the mattress!

That apple stand is looking more and more likely.

Put it all in Gold!

267 WhiteRasta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:08:39pm

re: #243 Syrah

Is he the brother of the singer Pussy Cat Stevens?

268 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:08:43pm

re: #249 FrogMarch

Awesome, isn't it?

269 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:08:47pm

re: #242 MandyManners

Cat-Butt Face.

Think about it for a second or two.

Lee Marvin was in that movie...Cat Butt Lou, right? Funny western!

270 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:08:53pm

re: #216 Sharmuta

I really hope not. After all the misogyny we've seen, I hope Katie can at least be fair.

i hope so too.
it will be interesting to watch.

271 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:08:54pm

re: #255 EIDE_Interface

Let's not panic. Sure FDIC can't cover all deposits - but it was never intended to allow ALL the people to withdraw all their funds at once. If people just keep their heads, there will be no problem.

I don't trust people to keep their heads. In fact, there are even people in this world who make SURE people lose their heads!

272 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:09:09pm

re: #256 DoubleU

Just telling you how the left feels about her.
She actually has more relaxed now that she has left Air America, still completely whacked out on stupid, but not screaming-spitting whacked out.

Could have fooled me. She sounds just as deranged as ever.

273 Syrah  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:09:10pm

re: #262 Sharmuta

She doesn't have to be intentionally easy- just fair. We'll see if she can't find a decent middle ground between gibson & hannity.

But again- I'm not going to hold my breath.

Gibson set a very low bar. Katie would have to work to do worse.

274 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:09:16pm

re: #264 MandyManners

WAB has a CBF.

Whiny-Assed Bitch has a Catt-Butt Face.

Lol.

275 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:09:18pm

re: #266 Egfrow

Put it all in Gold!

Golden Delicious?

276 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:09:24pm

re: #261 vagabond trader

What's this I'm hearing about Obiden mouthing off about taxes today?

When I talked to my mom this evening she said that he essentially said that taxes are gonna' go up and that patriotic Americans won't bitch and will gladly pay. Or, something like that.

277 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:09:26pm

re: #254 formercorpsman

Albino dude who played guitar.....

Wasn't that Ziggy?

278 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:09:32pm

re: #273 Syrah

Gibson set a very low bar. Katie would have to work to do worse.

Good point.

279 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:09:40pm

re: #224 EIDE_Interface

Well, I'll wait and see on WaMu for now. I don't want to pull funds when I don't even have millions to worry about.

/if you have $100K or less it's not even an issue

280 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:09:41pm

re: #262 Sharmuta

I'm with you.

281 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:09:46pm

re: #271 Tigger2005

I don't trust people to keep their heads. In fact, there are even people in this world who make SURE people lose their heads!

Go watch It's a Wonderful Life.

282 godfrey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:10:03pm

re: #270 nyc redneck

Not a chance. Couric is an ideologue, and she puts up big money. I bet she bares her claws, no question.

283 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:10:08pm

re: #275 Tigger2005

Golden Delicious?

I love golden delicious apples. I will be a regular at your stand.

284 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:10:12pm

re: #264 MandyManners

Now just a sec Mandy, my cat resembles that remark.

285 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:10:24pm

re: #260 livefreeor die

I don't know. Her ratings are in the tank. She needs to "prove" herself to the same masters that enabled Dan Rather for so long.

Her ratings are in the tank because she doesn't try to "prove" anything.
That's why I like her better than the other two non-cable networks.

286 JHW  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:10:30pm

re: #187 Sharmuta

re: #200 Dianna

Way OT, Sharmuta, just got that book you recommended on fascism today, will dig into it.

Dianna, from your postings on the Russian threads, I'm pretty sure you'd find this interesting, I just got a copy from the library. Written by educated soldier in the Russian army during the Chechen war, it confirms everything bad we think about the modern Russian army. Miserably led, corrupt to the core, stealing and selling arms and ammunition on the black market, etc. What I found interesting is the modern Russian Army's reliance on "contract soldiers", the paramilitary types we saw in Georgia. They're consciously trying to copy what they see as a professional US military, but are ending up with criminals and thugs of all types instead and their behavior shows themto have more in common with Attilla the Hun rather than professional Western, volunteer militaries.
One Soldiers War, by Arkady Babchenko

287 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:10:32pm

re: #269 OldLineTexan

Lee Marvin was in that movie...Cat Butt Lou, right? Funny western!

Something like that.

288 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:10:43pm

re: #228 Egfrow

You should, The Rumor mill is that the FDIC is not going to be able to cover all the failures.

Do you think they could?
Do you think the Fed could do anything correctly? You might get some of your money back, but it will take a damn long time.

289 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:10:44pm

re: #261 vagabond trader

Hot Air has it. Just scroll down the page.

290 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:10:54pm

re: #252 mbabbitt I have learned to repect him more, as He seems to be the only one with courage to Attempt outting Obama and His Friends

291 Irene NYC  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:11:07pm

re: #279 Killian Bundy

/if you have $100K or less it's not even an issue

I spoke with one of my bankers about this and they said that the FDIC had 99 years to reimburse FDIC-insured deposits. Did you ever hear that?

292 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:11:11pm

re: #276 MandyManners

When I talked to my mom this evening she said that he essentially said that taxes are gonna' go up and that patriotic Americans won't bitch and will gladly pay. Or, something like that.

Yes- Biden found a way to make the right question their patriotism- by calling higher taxes patriotic!

293 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:11:16pm

re: #274 Catttt

Lol.

Gotta' admit the puckers are similar.

294 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:11:25pm

re: #262 Sharmuta

She doesn't have to be intentionally easy- just fair. We'll see if she can't find a decent middle ground between gibson & hannity.

But again- I'm not going to hold my breath.

Please don't - you are already quite blue.

295 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:11:33pm

re: #291 Irene NYC

I spoke with one of my bankers about this and they said that the FDIC had 99 years to reimburse FDIC-insured deposits. Did you ever hear that?

WTF.

296 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:11:40pm

re: #286 JHW

Really cool- hope you enjoy it. It's quite informative.

297 Jimash  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:11:42pm

But.. but... he didn't ask about making Whoopi Goldberg a slave ?
You know the SEERIOUS (sic) questions.

298 livefreeor die  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:11:48pm

re: #292 Sharmuta

Yes- Biden found a way to make the right question their patriotism- by calling higher taxes patriotic!

So is he saying that everyone on welfare is unpatriotic?

299 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:11:58pm

re: #277 Dianna

300 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:12:09pm

McCain and Palin are making a huge mistake blaming Wall Street for these failures of poorly managed and run companies.

What signify a few companies lost in a century or two? The tree of Capitalism must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of businessmen and congressmen. It is its natural manure.

301 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:12:20pm

re: #248 jwb7605

Sure thing there...

302 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:12:27pm

re: #292 Sharmuta

Yes- Biden found a way to make the right question their patriotism- by calling higher taxes patriotic!

That's like fucking for virginity.

303 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:12:37pm

re: #294 OldLineTexan

Please don't - you are already quite blue.

LOL!

304 garycooper  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:12:42pm

She's incredibly appealing, on several levels. She'll make a great Veep.

305 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:12:55pm

re: #237 EIDE_Interface

You don't know that Palin believes in THAT wacky type of Creationism.

Did I say that?

/it's an accusation still being cranked out by the smear machine

306 Palandine  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:13:01pm

re: #261 vagabond trader

What's this I'm hearing about Obiden mouthing off about taxes today?

In an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America," Biden said wealthier taxpayers would indeed pay more under the proposals of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. Under his plan, people earning more than $250,000 a year would pay more in taxes while those earning less — the vast majority of taxpayers — would receive a tax cut.

"We want to take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people," Biden said. Of those who would pay more, he said: "It's time to be patriotic ... time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut."

307 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:13:13pm

re: #246 willowone

she talks about love for america, he talks about all that is wrong with america
thats while i will vote republican

exactly.
:D

308 gibsonz  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:13:27pm

Michelle is nothing but your typical "activist"...aka...a bitter asshole looking for a cause!

309 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:13:30pm

re: #305 Killian Bundy

Did I say that?

/it's an accusation still being cranked out by the smear machine

Lots of Christians believe in the Big Bang, but that God did it rather then it being a random singularity.

310 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:13:34pm

OT: Is Karl Rove Machiavelli's reincarnation?

311 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:13:41pm

re: #277 Dianna

Wasn't that Ziggy?

We bitched about his fans, and should we crush his sweet hands?

312 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:13:52pm

re: #286 JHW

Thanks, I have it.

I'm looking forward to reading it when I'm a little less fogged and miserable.

313 Irene NYC  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:14:10pm

Here the FDIC says they reimburse insured deposits in about one day. But you'll note, they do not deny the 99 year question. They just don't answer it.

314 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:14:27pm

re: #292 Sharmuta

I've looked for, but cannot find, the link to the twits blaming Gov. Palin for the hacking. Do you remember roughly where it was? (I'm grinding to a halt on about 3.5 hours of sleep since I woke up early Wednesday a.m..)

315 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:14:27pm

re: #291 Irene NYC

BS.

The FDIC is designed to pay out within a few days - precisely to stem the tide of a bank run and keep the markets stable.

Try checking the FDIC website before listening to folks who really don't know what they're talking about.

316 garycooper  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:14:37pm

re: #181 Charles

Note that she unequivocally denied wanting to teach creationism. No waffling. Sigh of relief. Backs up what I've been writing.

Gee, I thought she believed Jesus was a Jurassic Park jockey. That's what I read in the local paper, anyway.

317 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:14:51pm

re: #306 Palandine

When a libral refers to "wealthier" taxpayers they mean anyone who has an honest living.

318 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:15:04pm

re: #251 Egfrow

Wachovia is about the bought by Moragan Stanley who is about to be bailed out by over 50% investment from China.

/49.9% (they already own 9,9%), U.S. won't approve a majority stake

319 godfrey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:15:09pm

re: #309 EIDE_Interface

It's deeper than that. Any random singularity would still occur in the context of a logically anterior Being.

320 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:15:17pm

re: #302 MandyManners

You know, I saw this and immediately got that urge to respond.

Poof, I'm speechless.

321 WhiteRasta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:15:35pm

re: #300 Egfrow

I am missing your point.. Who do you think is to blame for this problem?

I suggest it is the greedy and short sighted players who invested in witchcraft economics with your money and my money.

322 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:15:39pm

re: #313 Irene NYC

Uninsured deposits take longer to reimburse - that comes as assets of the bank are sold.

Insured deposits are dealt within days.

323 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:15:41pm

re: #313 Irene NYC

Here the FDIC says they reimburse insured deposits in about one day. But you'll note, they do not deny the 99 year question. They just don't answer it.

So some random person asked the 99years question, that dosen't make it fact.

324 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:15:43pm

re: #302 MandyManners

That's like fucking for virginity.

I'm in.

325 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:15:50pm

re: #272 EIDE_Interface

Do you listed to the radio show? When she was at WJNO (The first time) there is a story how she got really drunk at a Christmas party and tore down her fellow co-worker's Christmas tree and literally peed on it.

326 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:15:52pm

re: #300 Egfrow

McCain and Palin are making a huge mistake blaming Wall Street for these failures of poorly managed and run companies.

Not terribly surprising to see McCain doing it, but if Reagan is Palin's hero, she needs to start emulating him more. He saw the nation through some very painful economic times in the early '80's and stayed the course. Too bad Bill had to be the one to benefit from the results.

327 Irene NYC  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:15:58pm

re: #315 lawhawk

I have checked out the website, and extensively at that. I was reporting what a banker told me while we were divying up family funds well over 100K.

328 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:16:17pm

re: #315 lawhawk

BS.

The FDIC is designed to pay out within a few days - precisely to stem the tide of a bank run and keep the markets stable.

Try checking the FDIC website before listening to folks who really don't know what they're talking about.

Also if people believe their funds are insured up to 100K, then they will avoid mass panic behavior that plagued America prior to the FDIC.

329 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:16:20pm

re: #295 EIDE_Interface

WTF.

That's an urban myth or legend or whatever. Not true.

330 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:16:37pm

re: #299 formercorpsman

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

I'm still not wired for sound! Wah!

331 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:16:42pm

re: #320 formercorpsman

You know, I saw this and immediately got that urge to respond.

Poof, I'm speechless.

LOL!

332 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:16:49pm

re: #325 DoubleU

Do you listed to the radio show? When she was at WJNO (The first time) there is a story how she got really drunk at a Christmas party and tore down her fellow co-worker's Christmas tree and literally peed on it.

Why am I not shocked? Rhandi is a miserable excuse for a human being. More like a ghoul.

333 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:17:04pm

re: #311 OldLineTexan

We bitched about his fans, and should we crush his sweet hands?

Oh, he took it all too far, but boy, could he play guitar.

334 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:17:11pm

re: #324 OldLineTexan

I ain't touching that with a 10-foot barge pole.

335 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:17:22pm

re: #268 Sharmuta

Awesome, isn't it?

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Yes - thank you for posting it! Of course Obama and his handlers will come out saying "it's all lies... vile vile lies". They cannot dispute or argue anything, and the bus is so crowed they cannot afford to throw anyone else under it. so team Obama's brown-shirt typical response is to scream fire in a crowded theater.

The Obama machine is an empty joke. Supported by ENRON style corruption.

336 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:17:23pm

re: #314 MandyManners

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

abc & ap- blaming the victim just like rapists do.

337 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:17:27pm

re: #318 Killian Bundy

/49.9% (they already own 9,9%), U.S. won't approve a majority stake

We heard that excuse before when Saudi Arabia started Acquiring close to 50% in Aramco in the 1970's. By 1988 they owned 100%.

338 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:17:29pm

re: #324 OldLineTexan

I'm laughing.

339 kansas  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:17:32pm

re: #175 Palandine

Biden says taxation is patriotic.

The Lord God only needs 10%; why am I (who makes well less than $70k a year) paying close to 25% already between fed, state, local, and social security taxes?

PLEASE, 527s, start taking the game to the Dems! We should be ahead by 10 points in the polls now.

Only 25 percent? I'm self employed. SS is 14 percent, income tax 28. Income and ss is 42. Then its 8 per cent to spend it or buy something, plus personal property tax.. I figure 50 per cent easy. And I dont make 250 grand.

340 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:17:33pm

Hey EIDE,

Nothing to worry about.

/what's that sucking sound?

341 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:17:43pm

Michelle Obama is an affirmative action, have everything handed to her, get special privs ungrateful little .... um what is the word?

342 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:17:56pm

Katie Couric is as big of a democrat hack as Gibson. Don't be fooled.

343 Palandine  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:18:03pm

re: #317 vagabond trader

When a libral refers to "wealthier" taxpayers they mean anyone who has an honest living.

I mentioned above that I, who make less than 70k a year, already pay well over 25% on fed, state, local, and social security taxes.

If I get any more "patriotic," which I WILL under an Obama administration, I'll be selling apples with Tigger.

/Patriotism taxes, is that like Orwell's Victory Gin?

344 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:18:05pm

re: #319 godfrey

It's deeper than that. Any random singularity would still occur in the context of a logically anterior Being.

That's true. Honestly, I don't care what people believe about the origins of the universe, as long as they keep it out of politics. Which is what Palin promised to do.

345 Intrepid  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:18:21pm

Can somebody tell me what it means to "sell short - naked"?

346 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:18:40pm

re: #326 Tigger2005

Not terribly surprising to see McCain doing it, but if Reagan is Palin's hero, she needs to start emulating him more. He saw the nation through some very painful economic times in the early '80's and stayed the course. Too bad Bill had to be the one to benefit from the results.

We can only hope that Palin starts to shed McCain's scripts and training wheels and start standing on her own. We are running out of time.

347 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:19:06pm

re: #345 Intrepid

Can somebody tell me what it means to "sell short - naked"?

It means that you sell short without actually borrowing real shares. In essence you're creating supply that does not exist.

348 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:19:07pm

re: #330 Dianna

I'm still not wired for sound! Wah!

The first time my cat heard Frankenstein (switching albino guitarists to Edgar), she tried to climb into the speaker to kill whatever was in there.

349 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:19:09pm

re: #343 Palandine

I mentioned above that I, who make less than 70k a year, already pay well over 25% on fed, state, local, and social security taxes.

If I get any more "patriotic," which I WILL under an Obama administration, I'll be selling apples with Tigger.

/Patriotism taxes, is that like Orwell's Victory Gin?

Down the memory hole..

350 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:19:13pm

re: #325 DoubleU

Do you listed to the radio show? When she was at WJNO (The first time) there is a story how she got really drunk at a Christmas party and tore down her fellow co-worker's Christmas tree and literally peed on it.

*thunk*

Do they now employ the cut-direct?

351 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:19:16pm

re: #314 MandyManners

Tuck the kid up and go to bed! Take a hot bath, if it helps you relax, but don't keep pushing.

352 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:19:23pm

re: #343 Palandine

You and I pay much more than that when you factor in gas, heating oil, and all the other federal add-ons.

353 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:19:33pm

re: #345 Intrepid

Can somebody tell me what it means to "sell short - naked"?

It depends on who you ask. An investor & a sharmuta are bound to have different answers.

354 WhiteRasta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:19:33pm

re: #339 kansas

Oh, quit your whining!

Be thankful you don't live in Canada and have to pay for Free Health Care.

355 CynicalConservative  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:19:33pm

re: #345 Intrepid

Can somebody tell me what it means to "sell short - naked"?

Sell stocks that you don't own hoping they will go down so you can by them back cheaper and pocket the difference.

356 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:19:35pm

re: #327 Irene NYC

Funds over $100k are not insured. It takes more time for the bank's assets to be sold to cover those amounts.

That's one reason why people who have those kinds of amounts should spread the risk of loss to multiple banks and keep below those levels.

357 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:19:43pm

re: #282 godfrey

Not a chance. Couric is an ideologue, and she puts up big money. I bet she bares her claws, no question.

i bet she tries to keep gov. palin from wearing a short skirt.

358 godfrey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:20:00pm

re: #347 noshariaincanada

No, it means you're day trading as soon as you come out of the shower.

359 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:20:00pm

re: #335 FrogMarch

Yes - thank you for posting it! Of course Obama and his handlers will come out saying "it's all lies... vile vile lies". They cannot dispute or argue anything, and the bus is so crowed they cannot afford to throw anyone else under it. so team Obama's brown-shirt typical response is to scream fire in a crowded theater.

The Obama machine is an empty joke. Supported by ENRON style corruption.

I'm waiting for the bus to get high-centered.
There's enough bodies involved in this financial mess to do it.

the wheels of the bus go round and round,
off the ground, off the ground.
the wheels of the bus ...

360 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:20:04pm

re: #333 Dianna

What a shame, you can't hear this.

361 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:20:08pm

re: #345 Intrepid

Can somebody tell me what it means to "sell short - naked"?

Trading from home behind your computer you don't have to wear clothes.
It is investing against the market you want the stock to loose value.

362 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:20:16pm

re: #356 lawhawk

Funds over $100k are not insured. It takes more time for the bank's assets to be sold to cover those amounts.

That's one reason why people who have those kinds of amounts should spread the risk of loss to multiple banks and keep below those levels.

I wish I had that problem.

363 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:20:23pm

re: #345 Intrepid

Can somebody tell me what it means to "sell short - naked"?

Nude midgets for sale!

364 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:20:27pm

re: #291 Irene NYC

I spoke with one of my bankers about this and they said that the FDIC had 99 years to reimburse FDIC-insured deposits. Did you ever hear that?

No, that doesn't even make much sense considiring the actuarial tables.

/during the S&L crisis there were a thousand failures, they're looking at a few hundred here, this seems survivable so far

365 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:20:34pm

re: #345 Intrepid

Can somebody tell me what it means to "sell short - naked"?

Today's Mark Levin Radio Show gives an excellent detailed break down.

366 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:20:42pm

re: #358 godfrey

No, it means you're day trading as soon as you come out of the shower.

actually, you could be daytrading _in_ the shower, but that's still not naked shorting.

367 DoubleU  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:21:13pm

re: #361 DoubleU

It is investing against the market you want the stock to loose value.


I got that wrong.... I am going to bed.

368 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:21:20pm

re: #364 Killian Bundy

No, that doesn't even make much sense considiring the actuarial tables.

/during the S&L crisis there were a thousand failures, they're looking at a few hundred here, this seems survivable so far

Except this crisis is 100x bigger then the S&L by monetary amount. Trillions of dollars in bad debts.

369 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:21:53pm

re: #342 FrogMarch

Katie Couric is as big of a democrat hack as Gibson.

And Katie kept working after her husband died even though she has two young children. I guess Progressives have "special parenting skills" unknown to successful conservative women with children.

I'm time zoned challenged......will watch the interview in 1 1/2 hours from now.

NObama!

370 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:22:21pm

re: #309 EIDE_Interface

Lots of Christians believe in the Big Bang, but that God did it rather then it being a random singularity.

I didn't say that either.

/quit while you're ahead

371 Syrah  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:22:33pm

re: #345 Intrepid

Can somebody tell me what it means to "sell short - naked"?

It involves nudity

NSFW

372 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:22:46pm

re: #368 EIDE_Interface

Except this crisis is 100x bigger then the S&L by monetary amount. Trillions of dollars in bad debts.

It exceeds Enron as a scandal by a factor of at least 100.

373 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:22:48pm

re: #357 nyc redneck

Wow.

374 Irene NYC  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:23:44pm

re: #356 lawhawk

Yes, it seems this banker was wrong about the 99 years (so I'm glad we didn't take his advice to invest in annuities which weren't FDIC insured but were insured by an aggregation of insurance companies that he assured us would never go under!).

Yes, you're correct. Even uninsured deposits usually get resolved by the FDIC within 2-3 years. I didn't know that they typically returned $0.62 on the dollar of uninsured accounts.

Okay, lizards. The 99 years is an urban myth.

375 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:24:02pm

re: #336 Sharmuta

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

abc & ap- blaming the victim just like rapists do.

They keep on saying that she used the account to run government business but, they cannot put up the evidence.

After the Sharia thing earlier this week, and this horsehockey, I'm gonna' hafta' bank the flames of my wrath tonight.

376 Palandine  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:24:21pm

re: #352 vagabond trader

You and I pay much more than that when you factor in gas, heating oil, and all the other federal add-ons.

Oh, I know.

I started turning my friend conservative when I told her to check out her gross on her paycheck, compared with what she nets.

Sounds basic, but a lot of people don't look at that.

When you see what you've earned by the sweat of your brow, then see how much the Man takes away before you even "see" it, it begins to open your eyes.

It kind of makes me agree with the notion that you should write a check for your taxes every month, rather than having it taken out automatically. If people actually saw how invested they are in the government with their taxes, the days of torches and pitchforks would come...

377 garycooper  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:24:22pm

Caught Rachel Maddow tonight, for the first time ever. Not impressed. Same old lefty-cant-blather, not as rabid as Olbie, but still annoying. No balance at all.

378 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:24:30pm

re: #336 Sharmuta

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

abc & ap- blaming the victim just like rapists do.

Oh, and thank you. I do appreciate your help.

379 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:24:49pm

re: #374 Irene NYC

Yes, it seems this banker was wrong about the 99 years (so I'm glad we didn't take his advice to invest in annuities which weren't FDIC insured but were insured by an aggregation of insurance companies that he assured us would never go under!).

Yes, you're correct. Even uninsured deposits usually get resolved by the FDIC within 2-3 years. I didn't know that they typically returned $0.62 on the dollar of uninsured accounts.

Okay, lizards. The 99 years is an urban myth.

What would be an uninsured account? Come credit unions?

380 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:25:03pm

re: #368 EIDE_Interface

Except this crisis is 100x bigger then the S&L by monetary amount. Trillions of dollars in bad debts.

the whole problem of this "bad debt" crisis is that it is being brought to a head by what I think are artificial time constraints. Even assuming that most of the real-estate that was bought with subprime loans was overvalued at the time of purchase, given some time, it may turn into fairly-valued real-estate.

The whole problem has been accelerated / exacerbated by the newly-introduced mark-to-market rules and the mistrust between financial institutions. It is a huge mess, but does not have to result in further implosion.

All you really need is for there to be a sense that things will be worked-out over time, instead of everyone having to Liquidate Now.

381 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:25:22pm

re: #377 garycooper

Caught Rachel Maddow tonight, for the first time ever. Not impressed. Same old lefty-cant-blather, not as rabid as Olbie, but still annoying. No balance at all.

Well at least she doesn't feel compelled to name "The worst person in the world" award every night like Olbie.

382 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:25:24pm

re: #317 vagabond trader

When a libral refers to "wealthier" taxpayers they mean anyone who has an honest living.

biden was so deranged today. i heard a clip of him rambling on rush's show.
just incredible abt. people need to give. be generous.
pay their taxes. pay a lot of taxes it's the american way. it's patriotic.

i wonder if he has dementia.

383 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:26:08pm

re: #353 Sharmuta

Yeah, it sure wouldn't be "Well hung, snow white tan"

384 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:26:21pm

re: #368 EIDE_Interface

Except this crisis is 100x bigger then the S&L by monetary amount. Trillions of dollars in bad debts.

The Government already owns most of it since last week.

/got a linky?

385 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:26:21pm

re: #351 Dianna

Tuck the kid up and go to bed! Take a hot bath, if it helps you relax, but don't keep pushing.

I'm winding down. As soon as he's asleep, I'm outta' here.

386 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:26:22pm

re: #378 MandyManners

You're welcome.

387 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:26:33pm

re: #380 noshariaincanada

the whole problem of this "bad debt" crisis is that it is being brought to a head by what I think are artificial time constraints. Even assuming that most of the real-estate that was bought with subprime loans was overvalued at the time of purchase, given some time, it may turn into fairly-valued real-estate.

The whole problem has been accelerated / exacerbated by the newly-introduced mark-to-market rules and the mistrust between financial institutions. It is a huge mess, but does not have to result in further implosion.

All you really need is for there to be a sense that things will be worked-out over time, instead of everyone having to Liquidate Now.

Except everyone is trying to liquidate now. Of course most house-debtors trying to sell are completely delusional about market price. Just read about it at:

Housing Bubble Blog

388 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:26:58pm

re: #314 MandyManners

I've looked for, but cannot find, the link to the twits blaming Gov. Palin for the hacking. Do you remember roughly where it was? (I'm grinding to a halt on about 3.5 hours of sleep since I woke up early Wednesday a.m..)

Here is one story at Michelle Malkin that will have you seething.
It's not, I'm sure, the link you were talking about; in this one the AP itself blames Palin, and basically endorses the illegal activity that got to the Palin e-mail account.

389 Racer X  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:27:17pm
390 JeremyR  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:27:45pm

re: #345 Intrepid

Can somebody tell me what it means to "sell short - naked"?

Male prostitution comes to mind.... I think Zombie had stuff on it a month or so ago.

391 Irene NYC  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:28:00pm

re: #379 EIDE_Interface

What would be an uninsured account? Come credit unions?

Deposits under one name, at the same FDIC-insured bank, over $100K are uninsured, or, keeping it simple, more than $200K for deposits with 2 names on the account. There are also institutions that are not FDIC insured.

For the last word in FDIC, go here.

392 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:28:07pm

re: #382 nyc redneck

biden was so deranged today. i heard a clip of him rambling on rush's show.
just incredible abt. people need to give. be generous.
pay their taxes. pay a lot of taxes it's the american way. it's patriotic.

i wonder if he has dementia.

Or, he just has an overdose of giddy, from being selected as VP candidate. He could never have hoped to have gotten this far, really, on his own. Just no charisma at all.

393 Irene NYC  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:28:23pm

re: #379 EIDE_Interface

Most credit unions that I know of are FDIC insured.

394 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:28:56pm

The Towercam seems to be temporarily on the fritz, so:


The Sun Today


(solar satellite image from within the last few hours)


The Nasa Web Page with this and other images,


BBL, or tomorrow.

395 Cartman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:29:14pm

re: #62 Luigi

What a charming Obama fan!

Dallas Mavericks' Josh Howard disrespects national anthem

I wonder if Josh Howard knows Steve Almond? POS.

396 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:29:25pm

re: #382 nyc redneck

biden was so deranged today. i heard a clip of him rambling on rush's show.
just incredible abt. people need to give. be generous.
pay their taxes. pay a lot of taxes it's the american way. it's patriotic.

i wonder if he has dementia.

Nah. It's just that his tongue is loose at both ends.

397 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:29:29pm

re: #382 nyc redneck

biden was so deranged today. i heard a clip of him rambling on rush's show.
just incredible abt. people need to give. be generous.
pay their taxes. pay a lot of taxes it's the american way. it's patriotic.

i wonder if he has dementia.

398 spynverzyon  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:30:17pm

re: #342 FrogMarch

Katie Couric is as big of a democrat hack as Gibson. Don't be fooled.

Undeniably, but Katie is weaker than Charlie. Call me crazy, but I think Katie, in spite of herself, will be charmed by Palin. Just a hunch.

Or to put it another way: maybe Katie, in contrast to Charlie, is at least perceptive enough realize that trying to take down Palin is a losing cause, and will break ranks.

399 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:30:40pm

re: #388 reine.de.tout

Here is one story at Michelle Malkin that will have you seething.
It's not, I'm sure, the link you were talking about; in this one the AP itself blames Palin, and basically endorses the illegal activity that got to the Palin e-mail account.

I'm gonna' hold my tongue.

400 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:30:45pm

re: #396 Catttt

Nah. It's just that his tongue is loose at both ends.

Is he going to make me pay taxes on my corner apple-stand business?

401 alien_mind  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:30:52pm

Bill Clinton with a ringing endorsement of...
McCain/Palin? and his wifes economic plan?
ugh, oh. that meeting with BO last week must not have gone that well.

402 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:31:34pm

re: #398 spynverzyon

Undeniably, but Katie is weaker than Charlie. Call me crazy, but I think Katie, in spite of herself, will be charmed by Palin. Just a hunch.

Or to put it another way: maybe Katie, in contrast to Charlie, is at least perceptive enough realize that trying to take down Palin is a losing cause, and will break ranks.

That makes us two against the world.
/The world has no chance, now.

403 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:31:44pm

re: #388 reine.de.tout

Here is one story at Michelle Malkin that will have you seething.
It's not, I'm sure, the link you were talking about; in this one the AP itself blames Palin, and basically endorses the illegal activity that got to the Palin e-mail account.

She had it coming!

/spit

404 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:32:17pm

re: #387 EIDE_Interface

Except everyone is trying to liquidate now. Of course most house-debtors trying to sell are completely delusional about market price. Just read about it at:

Housing Bubble Blog

your point about the fact that "everyone is trying to liquidate now" is taken - that is my point, too. The solution is not to *force* everyone to liquidate before everyone else (that creates a meltdown scenario).

IF (and It's a BIG if) the owners of "toxic" mortgage paper would take a bit of a haircut and let terms be stretched-out, then we might actually see a more orderly unwinding of this credit bubble. To everyone's benefit except that "naked" short sellers.

405 Palandine  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:32:23pm

re: #400 Tigger2005

Is he going to make me pay taxes on my corner apple-stand business?

What? Aren't you patriotic?

/Biden

406 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:32:25pm

re: #400 Tigger2005

Is he going to make me pay taxes on my corner apple-stand business?

More like protection.

407 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:32:30pm

re: #398 spynverzyon

we will see, I see her as very driven, and if she broke ranks she might as well hang herself out to dry ...with the nest of vipers that control the show

408 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:32:32pm

re: #403 Sharmuta

She had it coming!

/spit

The new left meme is that Palin is unethically using a private email account for govt business.

409 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:32:58pm

Denver college professor assigns students to write essay critical of Palin...

Welcome to the left-wing indoctrination factory. It's called college.

410 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:32:58pm

re: #400 Tigger2005

Is he going to make me pay taxes on my corner apple-stand business?

No, but he'll buy you a beer after work and keep you company. Maybe a piece of pie too.

411 Irene NYC  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:33:00pm

re: #345 Intrepid

Can somebody tell me what it means to "sell short - naked"?

From Wikipedia:
Naked short selling, or naked shorting, is the practice of selling a stock short without first borrowing the shares or ensuring that the shares can be borrowed as is done in a conventional short sale. When the seller does not then obtain the shares within the required time frame, the result is known as a "fail to deliver."

412 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:33:21pm

Whoa, Donald Trump is a PUMA! lmao!

413 tuffasnails  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:33:36pm

I would've preferred she say that she would like for Creationism to be taught alongside evolution, but I understand it's probably not the best time to focus on that.

As for Biden, I heard he likes to kick a few back. Is it just me, or does he seem a little tanked when he goes on those rants? I hate to spread unsubstantiated rumors, but he seems awful loquacious sometimes, more so than others - depends on the day, or "time" of the day? Anyone for afternoon cocktails? :|

414 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:33:44pm

re: #409 FrogMarch

Denver college professor assigns students to write essay critical of Palin...

Welcome to the left-wing indoctrination factory. It's called college.

Just gets worse and worse every year. That's why I fear the youth vote.

415 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:33:55pm

re: #408 EIDE_Interface

The new left meme is that Palin is unethically using a private email account for govt business.

And it's a lie. Even the hacker said so. But you are missing the point of my comment, it seems. They are saying she deserved it. That's what rapists say.

416 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:34:05pm

re: #392 reine.de.tout

Or, he just has an overdose of giddy, from being selected as VP candidate. He could never have hoped to have gotten this far, really, on his own. Just no charisma at all.

oh, heaven forbid, he went and got giddy.
a man of his age.
i think you're right. lol

417 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:34:08pm

re: #408 EIDE_Interface

The new left meme is that Palin is unethically using a private email account for govt business.

But, as even the idjit hacker admitted, she wasn't. It's not going to work.

418 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:34:11pm

Donald Trump says Barry's economic plan would cause the great depression.

419 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:34:23pm

re: #412 vagabond trader
I' can't say i'm tickled by that, but at least he has power. Rothschild I was more hopeful with.

420 wee fury  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:34:27pm

re: #393 Irene NYC

Most credit unions that I know of are FDIC insured.

The National Credit Union Administration (NCUA) is the federal agency that charters and supervises federal credit unions and insures savings in federal and most state-chartered credit unions across the country through the National Credit Union Share Insurance Fund (NCUSIF), a federal fund backed by the full faith and credit of the United States government

421 cliffster  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:34:29pm

re: #397 MandyManners

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

I think I've seen you post that link before, sometime..

422 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:34:36pm

re: #415 Sharmuta

And it's a lie. Even the hacker said so. But you are missing the point of my comment, it seems. They are saying she deserved it. That's what rapists say.

Well I hope the hacker gets a nice long trip to federal "Pound him in the ass" prison.

423 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:35:05pm

re: #417 Dianna

But, as even the idjit hacker admitted, she wasn't. It's not going to work.

Yet, on leftist blogs they are running with that meme. They are truly nuts.

424 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:35:09pm

re: #408 EIDE_Interface

The new left meme is that Palin is unethically using a private email account for govt business.

Yep. No mention of the Democrat hacker.

425 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:35:20pm

re: #422 EIDE_Interface

I hope nobody hacks your email

//

426 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:35:21pm

re: #418 Catttt

Donald Trump says Barry's economic plan would cause the great depression.

I like it!

427 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:35:24pm

I'm a PUMA too. :D

As Lady de Rothschild said, I didn't leave my party; my party left me.

428 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:35:24pm

re: #405 Palandine

No, but I wont pay taxes on real estate sales, earned income, imputed income, and any money I make in general. /I'm Charlie Rangel and I approve this message. /

429 Bobibutu  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:35:26pm

re: #13 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Some thoughts on the financial crisis.

Oil increasing by a factor of 6 in less than 15 months was a global blow to growth, it was the inevitable slip into recession that sent everything into freefall. Coupled with a war and several industries that never quite recovered from 9-11 and we are in the perfect storm.

Going forward, there are some smart things that need to happen with regards to financial institutions. First we need to restore the regional/state banks that were rolled up in mergers to give us the very institutions that were supposed to be "too big to fail." It turns out they were too big to let fail and we will be paying it off for a long time. Bank should be allowed to operate any number of branches in up to 4 contiguous states. All national banks can have up to 10 business offices in every state with up to 30 in in California, Florida and Texas. This arrange does several things- it restores post depression State based banking while fostering national competition. It is also advisable to re-establish the old interbank syndication of larger loans, this will force large financings to pass multiple risk analysis desks and share risk among institutions.

The next major change is to require insurance premiums to be paid by buyers in transactions and charge higher premiums for riskier transactions. Options and derivatives are not wrong top create, what is wrong is not to require purchasers of securities to pay a premium to a national investor protection fund that guarantees investors' holdings against messes like the one we are now seeing.

Savings, we need to build up more our wealth into savings accounts. Making the interest on the first 100,000 in savings accounts tax free will give a valuable advantage to basic savings and incentivize people people to not borrow up to their eyeballs.

We have experienced a humbling lesson over the last couple of weeks, we are not out of the woods yet. The good news is that even if the whole thing does melt into the sewers, the human capital of this nation will allow us to rebuild. I hope it never comes to that but we remain the wealthiest society in human history but we need to manage our affairs better.

You almost have my vote for SecTres. Now, since the congress critters have been constantly pushing off the in-pending doom into the future what is your solution for ~2014 when both Medicare and Social Security are in negative territory?

430 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:35:33pm

re: #387 EIDE_Interface

Except everyone is trying to liquidate now. Of course most house-debtors trying to sell are completely delusional about market price. Just read about it at:

Housing Bubble Blog

The housing market sucks since yesterday?

You know, last night, lots of people were calling you a moby and I was like WTF?

/*sniff sniff*

431 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:36:00pm

re: #413 tuffasnails

I would've preferred she say that she would like for Creationism to be taught alongside evolution, but I understand it's probably not the best time to focus on that.

It will never be time to focus on that.

Which Creationism would you have taught? I think it should be the Yup'ik creation story.

432 Irene NYC  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:36:01pm

re: #420 wee fury

Thanks for the correction and clarification. When we opened our credit union accounts we just asked if they were insured (assuming FDIC).

Nice to see you again, too, WF.
;)

433 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:36:51pm

re: #418 Catttt

Donald Trump says Barry's economic plan would cause the great depression.

Obama ... YOU'RE FIRED!

434 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:37:04pm

re: #427 Catttt

and so it goes, one by one, we determine stolen votes, misogyny. threats and slurs won't win.

435 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:37:30pm

re: #427 Catttt

Hey, I come from a family of Roosevelt Dems. My brother was the first to jump ship for Reagan.

436 JeremyR  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:37:35pm

re: #336 Sharmuta

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

abc & ap- blaming the victim just like rapists do.

When I was in small town gov, we had an official business account. We also had either a yahoo, or hotmail account for the non official stuff and as back up when the official site went down. Both were kept seperate from our personal account. If we communicated with officials from other communities about non official stuff, we could not use the official account. If we used the unofficial account for emergency reasons we had to post a copy to the official account as well.
It appears that Palin was in a similar boat. Had she used the state official account for family or personal business she would be in trouble. The asshacker needs his gonads handed to him on a charred stick. Investigation is the duty of law enforcement not nutjobs.

437 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:38:14pm

re: #409 FrogMarch

Denver college professor assigns students to write essay critical of Palin...

Welcome to the left-wing indoctrination factory. It's called college.

The rest of the story:

Metro State College is investigating a professor who asked students to write an essay critical of Republican vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin. One student said the instructor singled out Republican students in the class and allowed others to ridicule them.

"I was shocked, I was holy cow, this is just an open door for him to discuss politics with us," said Jana Barber, a student in the class.

Barber shared the first class assignment with CBS4 Wednesday. Instructor Andrew Hallam asked students to write an essay to contradict what he called the 'fairy tale image of Palin' presented at the Republican National Convention.

"What the faculty's responsibility is to provide opportunity for critical thinking and civic engagement so bringing something of relevancy into the classroom was the faculty's goal," said Cathy Lucas, spokeswoman for Metro State. "Should he have broadened it and included all the political figures, yes."

Metro State officials are investigating claims of bias, harassment and bullying.

SNIP

He has revised the assignment.

438 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:38:18pm

re: #431 Tigger2005

It will never be time to focus on that.

Which Creationism would you have taught? I think it should be the Yup'ik creation story.

For some reason, now I have a craving for a nice big thick - - - - salmon steak..

439 whiterasta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:38:36pm

re: #428 lawhawk

Ppshawww... Taxes are only for the little people....

440 willowone  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:38:44pm

re: #435 vagabond trader
i jumped after 9-11 ans saw slander of our troops and sitting president.

441 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:38:53pm
tuffasnails

This user is blocked.

Registered since: Sep 17, 2008 at 3:28 pm
No. of comments posted: 13
No. of links posted: 0

He/she didn't last long.

442 Syrah  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:38:58pm

re: #401 alien_mind

Bill Clinton with a ringing endorsement of...
McCain/Palin? and his wifes economic plan?
ugh, oh. that meeting with BO last week must not have gone that well.

The comments on that article suggest a real party unity problem for the Dems.

443 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:38:58pm

re: #431 Tigger2005

It will never be time to focus on that.

Which Creationism would you have taught? I think it should be the Yup'ik creation story.

She gonna let yu pik. Atsa so nice!

444 Cartman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:39:09pm

re: #418 Catttt

Donald Trump says Barry's economic plan would cause the great depression.

Hell, that might be a best-case scenario.

445 Alouette  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:40:33pm

re: #382 nyc redneck

biden was so deranged today. i heard a clip of him rambling on rush's show.
just incredible abt. people need to give. be generous.
pay their taxes. pay a lot of taxes it's the american way. it's patriotic.

i wonder if he has dementia.

He has Palin Dementia, like every other lib. It's a freaken Palin-demic.

446 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:40:39pm

I'm holding out for the Open Thread before I go off to bed ... but I may not make it.

447 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:40:42pm

I have one co-worker who is an Obamaniac. Most everyone else thinks Barry is a tool.

448 itellu3times  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:40:49pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

I still wish anyone from fox but sean had been given this interview.

Al Bundy?

449 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:41:38pm

re: #436 JeremyR

When I was in small town gov, we had an official business account. We also had either a yahoo, or hotmail account for the non official stuff and as back up when the official site went down. Both were kept seperate from our personal account. If we communicated with officials from other communities about non official stuff, we could not use the official account. If we used the unofficial account for emergency reasons we had to post a copy to the official account as well.
It appears that Palin was in a similar boat. Had she used the state official account for family or personal business she would be in trouble. The asshacker needs his gonads handed to him on a charred stick. Investigation is the duty of law enforcement not nutjobs.

I'm well aware of the problems that arise for politicians and anyone working for a state government when personal emails, phone calls, etc. are used with government property. It's not pretty and the government WILL seek compensation and disciplinary actions.

450 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:41:46pm

re: #445 Alouette

He has Palin Dementia, like every other lib. It's a freaken Palin-demic.

I have a crush on Todd.

451 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:41:56pm

re: #62 Luigi

What a charming Obama fan!

Dallas Mavericks' Josh Howard disrespects national anthem

Charm is such a common quality in Obama fans.

/not really.

452 wee fury  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:41:59pm

re: #432 Irene NYC

Thanks, Irene. Haven't been around much since May due to travel, family obligations, etc.

453 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:42:00pm

re: #445 Alouette

This from a guy who had a declared income of over 300K and he contributed less then 1K to charity.A real piker.

454 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:42:02pm

re: #449 Sharmuta

I'm well aware of the problems that arise for politicians and anyone working for a state government when personal emails, phone calls, etc. are used with government property. It's not pretty and the government WILL seek compensation and disciplinary actions.

Not that I've done that- I've just seen the lawsuits!

455 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:42:40pm

re: #413 tuffasnails

You're a poopy-head.

456 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:42:52pm

re: #447 Catttt

I have one co-worker who is an Obamaniac. Most everyone else thinks Barry is a tool.

Just out of curiosity, do they think your co-worker is a tool?
I don't mean disliked (different issue), more like "mind-numbed robot"?

457 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:43:01pm

re: #450 Catttt

I have a crush on Todd.

who doesn't?
;)

458 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:43:28pm

re: #441 reine.de.tout

He/she didn't last long.

What happened?

459 Thanos  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:43:33pm

I didn't get a chance to post this earlier today, so here's this morning's moon.

460 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:43:33pm

On the financial crisis; we ain't out of the woods, but things are looking better. Even if it'll be a long, messy cleanup.

461 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:43:43pm

So Enron had to suck eggs - no government bail out - dudes in orange jumps suits, total media smack-down ...etc..

Why not the others?

I know that my opinion doesn't matter. In exchange for all of these massive bailouts of crooked Wall Street firms, banks, insurance companies and mortgage lenders with my tax money I'd like to see prosecutions and stiff prison sentences for the managers at these companies. I want to see Angelo and Franklin working in a prison laundry for the next 25 years. Then I'd like to see all of their assets forfeited.

I don't think that's too much to ask. But I realize it will never happen. The greed has rotted through both sides of the political aisle. The crooks have been bailed out with our money and they get to keep the loot they stole.


-Lou Minatti

oh yeah - democrats took millions - so no problem. Tax payers are just getting a taste of an Obama administration.

462 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:43:54pm

Woo-hoo,According to his father, Hacker Kernel has been contacted by "authorities" regarding his email escapade.

463 whiterasta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:44:10pm

[Link: icecap.us...]

Goracle's connection to Lehman Brothers collapse.

Practicing witchcraft with your money and my money.

464 cliffster  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:44:33pm

re: #441 reine.de.tout

He/she didn't last long.

Did it post something else somewhere, other than #413?

465 Palandine  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:45:04pm

re: #450 Catttt

I have a crush on Todd.

My senior citizen, yellow dog democrat mom has a crush on Todd Palin: "He knows how to drill oil and fish and build things. He can do anything."

/we "white trash" women like men who have actual responsibilities and abilities

466 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:45:15pm

re: #409 FrogMarch

Denver college professor assigns students to write essay critical of Palin...

Welcome to the left-wing indoctrination factory. It's called college.

"I have critiqued Sarah Palin's performance as Governor of Alaska, I have critiqued her performance as a mother and wife, I have critiqued her religious beliefs, I have critiqued her attitudes toward her country and fellow man, I have nothing that I can negatively criticise her but I have plently with which I can positively criticise her and here it is..."

Do I get an "A"?

467 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:45:27pm

re: #463 whiterasta

Does it make me a horrid person for hoping he lost a bundle?

468 jcm  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:45:33pm

A Vietnam vet posted a video slide show or personal pictures with sound track.

***some mildly graphic content***

A salute to all our 'Nam vets, and thanks for a job well done.

469 Intrepid  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:45:39pm

re: #355 CynicalConservative

Sell stocks that you don't own hoping they will go down so you can by them back cheaper and pocket the difference.

How can you sell what you do not have? Color me confused, and not at all informed about the market...

470 Charles  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:45:39pm

Some sock puppets are incredibly obvious, and can't help boasting.

471 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:46:26pm

re: #465 Palandine

My senior citizen, yellow dog democrat mom has a crush on Todd Palin: "He knows how to drill oil and fish and build things. He can do anything."

/we "white trash" women like men who have actual responsibilities and abilities

I've rehabbed 3 houses! I can do framing, drywall, basic electrical, plumbing, and flooring!

And I'm single, all you white trash women!

472 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:46:39pm

re: #461 FrogMarch

So Enron had to suck eggs - no government bail out - dudes in orange jumps suits, total media smack-down ...etc..

Why not the others?

Simple answer to that; because they weren't breaking the law. (Most of them.)

473 CapitalistTool  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:47:11pm

re: #166 taxfreekiller

tfk thinks from the looks and body movement and eye motion and other keys that Alan Colmes is a severely depressed person, who is having trouble hiding it.

From what I'm seeing, PDS is a major cause of despair lately.

Seriously.

474 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:47:25pm

re: #471 Tigger2005

And your 50, you like to kick, stretch, and kick.

Don't ask.

475 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:47:34pm

re: #469 Intrepid

How can you sell what you do not have? Color me confused, and not at all informed about the market...

OK, here is a real simple example. You go to a car dealer and he does not have the car you want on the lot, but he still sells you a car, then he goes and gets the car you want.

Same with stocks. Except easier/faster. And no nudity required.

476 Racer X  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:47:38pm

You think we have it bad?

What Russia’s stockmarket collapse means for Russia and for its neighbours
Partly as a result of the storm hitting all emerging markets (see article) and partly because of jumpy nerves following the war with Georgia, the markets in Moscow have been crashing. On September 17th and 18th the authorities halted trading in shares and bonds after the benchmark RTS share index fell 21% earlier in the week. It is down nearly 60% since its peak in May. The finance ministry pledged $60 billion to prop up the banking system; much of it seems to have gone offshore.

477 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:47:39pm

re: #470 Charles

Was it the hamper reference?

478 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:48:02pm

re: #460 Occasional Reader

On the financial crisis; we ain't out of the woods, but things are looking better. Even if it'll be a long, messy cleanup.

/it helps when the Government gets serious, coordinates with foreign Governments, and they put on their collective hip waders

479 littleO  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:48:04pm

I am soooooo tired of this stupid campaigning! Lets have the frackin' election already. Maybe tommorrow!

480 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:48:25pm

re: #476 Racer X

You think we have it bad?

Hopefully they won't be able to afford to invade any more neighbors, at least for a while.

481 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:48:45pm

re: #471 Tigger2005

You free this weekend?

482 jcm  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:48:47pm

re: #479 littleO

I am soooooo tired of this stupid campaigning! Lets have the frackin' election already. Maybe tommorrow!

Democrats vote the day after!

483 whiterasta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:48:48pm

re: #467 vagabond trader

I will bet you a cold cup of decaffeinated coffee that the Great Saint Goracle bailed, long ago.

He never lost a dime. Never mind his shirt.

484 cliffster  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:48:50pm

re: #470 Charles

Some sock puppets are incredibly obvious, and can't help boasting.

Criminals always return to the scene of the crime.

485 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:48:54pm

re: #470 Charles

Some sock puppets are incredibly obvious, and can't help boasting.

Was that whatsisname?

486 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:48:55pm

re: #413 tuffasnails

NO, Senator Biden is not tanked. He's like that naturally. Trust me. Seriously.

487 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:49:19pm

re: #478 Killian Bundy

/it helps when the Government gets serious, coordinates with foreign Governments, and they put on their collective hip waders

I'm sure not HAPPY about the giant shit sandwich being prepared for the US taxpayers, but it probably beats the alternative.

488 Racer X  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:49:51pm

re: #480 Occasional Reader

Hopefully they won't be able to afford to invade any more neighbors, at least for a while.

Thats what I'm thinking!

489 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:49:51pm

re: #472 Occasional Reader

Simple answer to that; because they weren't breaking the law. (Most of them.)

Don't get me wrong - Enron broke the law and people at the top deserved to fall. To me stealing is stealing. No matter if it's under the legal radar or not.

490 JeremyR  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:50:35pm

re: #447 Catttt

I have one co-worker who is an Obamaniac. Most everyone else thinks Barry is a Ftool.

Corrected

491 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:50:42pm

The Federal Government now "owns" the housing ... Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac
The Federal Government now "owns" insurance (AIG)
The Federal Government controls energy
...
If Obama gets elected, and we still have Democrat majorities in House/Senate
...
How will that make us all that different from Russia?

492 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:50:45pm

re: #465 Palandine

crush on Todd Palin: "He knows how to drill oil and fish

But why would anyone want to drill fish?

(Even by Emunclaw standards, that's a little weird)

493 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:50:47pm

re: #437 MandyManners

Interesting. They're not all brainwashed then.

494 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:51:01pm

re: #470 Charles

Some sock puppets are incredibly obvious, and can't help boasting.

A pox on the socks.

495 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:51:02pm

re: #485 MandyManners

Do I wanna' know?

496 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:51:04pm

re: #474 formercorpsman

And your 50, you like to kick, stretch, and kick.

Don't ask.

sally o'malley? is that you?

497 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:51:26pm

re: #465 Palandine

It is REALLY IMPORTANT to know how to BUILD THINGS.

Yes it is.

Rhetorical question to the elite:

Do you have a skill saw? A worm drive skill saw?

I do.

And I see all this financial BS grafted onto "housing".

Damn. Do you mean houses, you know, with roofs & doors, where your kids can stay dry and warm?

That's the important reality of it.

Screw the speculators and the bankers and the politicians on the take.

Houses are for families not speculators.

I have spoken.

498 itellu3times  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:51:26pm

re: #345 Intrepid

Can somebody tell me what it means to "sell short - naked"?

In classic short-selling, you Intrepid has to borrow 100 shares of BigCorp from Mandy in order to sell them to itellu3times. Sometime later, Intrepid buys 100 shares of BigCorp on the open market, and returns them to Mandy, who being very sweet, has not even charged you for the honor. In fact, they way this works, the broker does the deed, and Mandy doesn't even know she's been sweet. Sweet, huh?

So, if BigCorp has 1,000,000 shares, at most 1,000,000 shares of BigCorp can be sold short at one time (though they can be sold fifty times a day!).

In naked short selling, Intrepid can sell 100 shares of BigCorp to itellu3times without even borrowing them from Mandy or hardly telling BigCorp about it at all. So, if Intrepid is very, um, Intrepid, he can sell 100,000,000 shares of BigCorp for pennies to all in the land, just out of the goodness of his heart. Of course, now BigCorp is unhappy that their stock is selling for pennies, and nobody quite knows why! Everyone panics, BigCorp now sells for 1 penny/share, Intrepid finally closes out the transaction when he buys 100,000,000 shares at 1 penny/share that he sold for 3 pennies/share, and laughs all the way to the bank - which unfortunately is now closed.

The End

499 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:51:31pm

re: #487 Occasional Reader

I'm sure not HAPPY about the giant shit sandwich being prepared for the US taxpayers, but it probably beats the alternative.

The alternative to Turd Sandwich is Giant Douche. I saw it on a TV show that a college student assured me was very factual.

/

500 Alouette  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:51:57pm

re: #437 MandyManners

Instructor Andrew Hallam asked students to write an essay to contradict what he called the 'fairy tale image of Palin' presented at the Republican National Convention.

The "fairy tale image" of Palin as the Wicked Witch of the West is being spread by the media and crazed lieberals, not by the RNC.

501 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:52:44pm

Greta says Todd refuses to testify.

/that's cool, he's the one who made most of the "pressuring" phone calls

502 Intrepid  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:52:46pm

re: #363 Tigger2005

Nude midgets for sale!

ROTFLMAO!

Better they get tossed in bars!

503 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:52:49pm

re: #496 nyc redneck

THANK YOU.

Someone got the veiled reference.

My faith is restored.

It's late, I'm drinking the idiotic.

Tigger, thanks for letting me bust, have a good night.

504 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:52:55pm

Norman Whifield, who wrote "Papa Was a Rolling Stone" and....

"Ain't Too Proud To Beg"
"Beauty Is Only Skin Deep"
"(I Know) I'm Losing You"
"You're My Everything"
"Cloud Nine"
"I Can't Get Next To You"
"Ball Of Confusion"
"Just My Imagination (Running Away With Me)"

Wow!


RIP

505 Palandine  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:53:02pm

re: #492 Occasional Reader

But why would anyone want to drill fish?

(Even by Emunclaw standards, that's a little weird)

Isn't that where fish oil comes from?

/little tiny fish-size derricks

506 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:53:04pm

re: #489 FrogMarch

Don't get me wrong - Enron broke the law and people at the top deserved to fall. To me stealing is stealing. No matter if it's under the legal radar or not.

I don't know what you mean by "under the legal radar", exactly. But it is very, VERY important for a society based on the Rule of Law that you can't be thrown in jail for doing something perfectly legal (e.g. short selling, etc.), just because after the fact everyone decides it was a bad idea.

Believe me, we don't want to live in the society that doesn't respect that basic principle.

507 vagabond trader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:53:37pm

Princess Obama syndrome rapidly morphing into dementia.

508 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:54:05pm

re: #493 EIDE_Interface

Interesting. They're not all brainwashed then.

Metro State College is not as insular as a typical four-year university.

509 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:54:21pm

I would love to know what happened to my posts.

Does someone know who tuffy was a sock for?

510 Palandine  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:54:26pm

re: #491 jwb7605

The Federal Government now "owns" the housing ... Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac
The Federal Government now "owns" insurance (AIG)
The Federal Government controls energy
...
If Obama gets elected, and we still have Democrat majorities in House/Senate
...
How will that make us all that different from Russia?

Hey, it's good when the workers own the means of production, right? Guy named Marx said so.

/If we're this socialist under a Republican president, then oy...

511 cliffster  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:54:38pm

re: #506 Occasional Reader

I don't know what you mean by "under the legal radar", exactly. But it is very, VERY important for a society based on the Rule of Law that you can't be thrown in jail for doing something perfectly legal (e.g. short selling, etc.), just because after the fact everyone decides it was a bad idea.

Believe me, we don't want to live in the society that doesn't respect that basic principle.

Now, if a bunch of guys all get together and give them a good ass-whoopin', now that's different.

512 JeremyR  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:54:56pm

re: #454 Sharmuta

Not that I've done that- I've just seen the lawsuits!

It would be foolish to expect any official to abandon their personal e-mail simply because they are in office.
The way I look at it, people used to come to my house to discuss official city policy with me. They felt comfortable doing so. Is there a crime in talking to non official people in a relaxed location? I see none. Assassination Press has no business publishing anything stolen from Palins personal account. If it had come from an official account it would still be wrong unless released by a person having authority to do so.

513 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:54:57pm

re: #500 Alouette

The "fairy tale image" of Palin as the Wicked Witch of the West is being spread by the media and crazed lieberals, not by the RNC.

Logic is not their forte.

514 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:55:14pm

re: #509 Dianna

I would love to know what happened to my posts.

Does someone know who tuffy was a sock for?

i'm curious too.

515 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:55:24pm

re: #506 Occasional Reader

The Constitution prohibits ex post facto laws. Article 1 section 9.

516 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:55:48pm

re: #508 MandyManners

Metro State College is not as insular as a typical four-year university.

I remember my last semester at SJ State, we had Zoe Lofgren(D) come pay us a visit. I was probably the only one there who didn't applaud.

517 whiterasta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:55:51pm

re: #504 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

RIP. Some wonderful songs I grew up with. So sorry for our loss.

G-d Bless and thank you for the wonderful music.

518 ggt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:55:52pm

Good Evening Lizards! It was another Glorious Day in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland today.

This is a drive-by post to give the weather report and wish you all a Great Evening!

weet dreams!

519 Quintus_Arius  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:55:56pm

Second-graders for Sarah! Are you kidding me? A strong advocacy group.

Well even fifth-graders I know like know a winner when they see one.

520 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:56:02pm

re: #476 Racer X

You think we have it bad?

Yup that was a brilliant move by Putin there ...

521 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:56:06pm

re: #491 jwb7605

The Federal Government now "owns" the housing ... Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac
The Federal Government now "owns" insurance (AIG)
The Federal Government controls energy
...
If Obama gets elected, and we still have Democrat majorities in House/Senate
...
How will that make us all that different from Russia?

Because the idea (currently) is for the government to get OUT of all those businesses as quickly as feasible.

Of course, if Obama comes into power...

522 JeremyR  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:56:07pm

re: #491 jwb7605

The Federal Government now "owns" the housing ... Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac
The Federal Government now "owns" insurance (AIG)
The Federal Government controls energy
...
If Obama gets elected, and we still have Democrat majorities in House/Senate
...
How will that make us all that different from Russia?

Better weapons and military to dominate the world. The Thugocracy the lefties slobber about would be reality.

523 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:56:33pm

re: #516 EIDE_Interface

Zoe's not as utterly insane as some, though I do wish she'd get voted out.

524 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:56:45pm

re: #515 Ojoe

The Constitution prohibits ex post facto laws. Article 1 section 9.

Yes, I know. I'm just reacting to the idea that "everyone who created this financial crisis should be prosecuted".

525 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:56:54pm

re: #513 MandyManners

Logic is not their forte.

Not even their piano.

526 Syrah  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:57:10pm

re: #516 EIDE_Interface

Really? What year. Class of 87.

527 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:57:20pm

re: #506 Occasional Reader

I don't know what you mean by "under the legal radar", exactly. But it is very, VERY important for a society based on the Rule of Law that you can't be thrown in jail for doing something perfectly legal (e.g. short selling, etc.), just because after the fact everyone decides it was a bad idea.

Believe me, we don't want to live in the society that doesn't respect that basic principle.

I'll bet that some of these executives broke the law. If they didn't - I agree with you.

528 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:57:30pm

re: #523 Dianna

Zoe's not as utterly insane as some, though I do wish she'd get voted out.

The Bay Area is a lost cause...

529 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:57:36pm

re: #520 Tigger2005

Yup that was a brilliant move by Putin there ...

As one commentator I saw today put it, the market is punishing Russia in a way that Western governments didn't have the balls to do.

530 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:58:12pm

re: #526 Syrah

Really? What year. Class of 87.

Transferred last semester from CSU Fullerton. CSU Fullerton class of 1995.

531 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:58:32pm

re: #509 Dianna

The gremlin in my washing machine who keeps stealing one sock from every fifth pair I own. /

532 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:58:32pm

re: #528 EIDE_Interface

Only because people will insist on falling into despair. It irritates me.

533 Intrepid  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:58:38pm
534 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:59:07pm

re: #532 Dianna

Only because people will insist on falling into despair. It irritates me.

Hey it's not much better up here in WA state, still moonbat country.

535 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:59:10pm

re: #508 MandyManners

Metro State College is not as insular as a typical four-year university.

One of my daughters graduated from there.
Metro State College isn't blatant.
Until now.

536 Alouette  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:59:27pm

re: #499 OldLineTexan

The alternative to Turd Sandwich is Giant Douche. I saw it on a TV show that a college student assured me was very factual.

/

That TV show is much more factual than your typical MSM "news" show.

537 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:59:41pm

re: #531 lawhawk

The gremlin in my washing machine who keeps stealing one sock from every fifth pair I own. /

It's a problem. I have found that my front loader behaves better, and occasionally spits 'em back out.

538 Bobibutu  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:59:42pm

re: #468 jcm

A Vietnam vet posted a video slide show or personal pictures with sound track.

***some mildly graphic content***

A salute to all our 'Nam vets, and thanks for a job well done.

That is a very deep hook!

Thx - Kodak had problems with their film back in the 70s - limited longevity - I lost thousands of slides (transparencies) take in SEA - a few hundred survived and I finally got them digitized - Gotta put them up one of these days. Nam 66-70.

539 Syrah  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 7:59:48pm

re: #530 EIDE_Interface

Transferred last semester from CSU Fullerton. CSU Fullerton class of 1995.

Amusing "small word" stuff.

SJSU was a good school if you knew which Professors were worth taking.

540 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:00:03pm

re: #456 jwb7605

Just out of curiosity, do they think your co-worker is a tool?
I don't mean disliked (different issue), more like "mind-numbed robot"?

Naw. She is a lovely person, but she's almost the poster-woman for "uber liberal Jewish woman."

Her bf is Italian and conservative. He tries to change the subject a lot.

541 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:00:15pm

re: #536 Alouette

That TV show is much more factual than your typical MSM "news" show.

They are very perceptive, even fair.

542 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:00:19pm

re: #512 JeremyR

It's not a problem for Governor Palin to have a personal email account. The problem is the governor using her official email account for personal business. She obviously hasn't done that. So- the left tried to concoct this new meme about her using her personal email for state business. First- she didn't do that. Even the hacker has said so. Second- even if she had, I'm not sure that's against Alaska state law.

Now- it's interesting the left thinks this is such a problem suddenly for government officials to be lax with security. Where were these people when bill clinton's sexy phone calls were being recorded?

543 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:00:42pm

re: #531 lawhawk

The gremlin in my washing machine who keeps stealing one sock from every fifth pair I own. /

Those socks aren't lost. They're gathering forces.

544 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:01:19pm

re: #539 Syrah

Amusing "small word" stuff.

SJSU was a good school if you knew which Professors were worth taking.

Well I had one class out of 2 that was very good. It was called "The Biology of Aging", the first time I learned about anti-oxidants and Vitamin E as well as programmed cell death.

545 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:01:57pm

re: #498 itellu3times

Good analogy. That's exactly why they just need to enforce the naked shorting law that's been on the books for at least 75 years.

Unless they have to physically borrow the shares, it's not hard to imagine a few heavy hitters actually short selling more shares than the entire float! Which would, of course, drive the share price into the ground and any legitimate buying counterpoint would be absolutely futile.

Gee, where have I seen that happen?

/Bueller, anyone?

546 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:02:12pm

re: #521 Occasional Reader

Because the idea (currently) is for the government to get OUT of all those businesses as quickly as feasible.

Of course, if Obama comes into power...

... appoints two Supreme Court Justices,
... gets the Fairness Doctrine implemented
... puts a "trained militia" into practice
.......

547 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:02:38pm

Can anyone tell me how the moonbats KNOW when Charles is opening registration? Do they have 24/7 brigades that sit online just for the 30 minute opening?

548 jcm  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:02:47pm

re: #538 Bobibutu

I scanned 6000 of my dads slides, family, travels and our time in Iran. The Nikon Digital ICE software recovered some images I considered lost.

549 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:02:55pm

I just finished reading that Useless Eaters link someone posted a while back, and I think I have a new hero for the collection:


Blessed Clemens August Cardinal Graf von Galen

This is the guy whose sermons against the Nazis and their genocidal policies a young priest in Krakow named Karol Wojtyla read copies of during World War II. This guy's sermons were part of the literature distributed by the White Rose. Check it out!

550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:03:01pm

re: #531 lawhawk

The gremlin in my washing machine who keeps stealing one sock from every fifth pair I own. /

I have 12 pairs of the exact same socks! Take that! Infernal sock stealing machine! Have to re-stock every year or so. Throw away 7 socks when I give up.

551 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:03:55pm

re: #514 nyc redneck

i'm curious too.

The style is very familiar.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

552 Archimedes  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:04:05pm

re: #299 formercorpsman

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Jonathan Winters:

553 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:04:43pm

bbiab Gonna' do some hunting.

554 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:04:44pm

re: #547 EIDE_Interface

That wasn't a moonbat- it was a sock puppet.

555 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:05:00pm

I think Sarah Palin did a great job.
She will make a fine VP!

Mooseburgers for everyone!

556 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:05:33pm

re: #546 jwb7605

puts a "trained militia" into practice

Um, no, on that one.

Can we please drop that? It's John Birch-style nuttery.

557 JeremyR  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:05:40pm

re: #542 Sharmuta

It's not a problem for Governor Palin to have a personal email account. The problem is the governor using her official email account for personal business. She obviously hasn't done that. So- the left tried to concoct this new meme about her using her personal email for state business. First- she didn't do that. Even the hacker has said so. Second- even if she had, I'm not sure that's against Alaska state law.

Now- it's interesting the left thinks this is such a problem suddenly for government officials to be lax with security. Where were these people when bill clinton's sexy phone calls were being recorded?

When a politician puts an R by their name, it translates as I R a TARGET

558 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:05:50pm

re: #555 DesertSage

I think Sarah Palin did a great job.
She will make a fine VP!

Mooseburgers for everyone!

Who wants to go polar bear huntin'?

559 Syrah  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:06:05pm

re: #544 EIDE_Interface

One out of two is doing well.

I remember that one of the worst classes I had there was an entry level biology class with a crazy moon bat who spent most of his class time hating Reagan.

560 Bobibutu  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:06:44pm

re: #548 jcm

I scanned 6000 of my dads slides, family, travels and our time in Iran. The Nikon Digital ICE software recovered some images I considered lost.

Mine were lost to mold and other emulsion eating critters. I should have shipped them to the US but kept them in Asia with me - Bangkok and Singapore for another 6 years - toast.

561 JeremyR  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:07:01pm

re: #554 Sharmuta

That wasn't a moonbat- it was a sock puppet.

Who?

562 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:07:35pm

re: #561 JeremyR

Who?

I don't know, but Charles said it was a sock.

563 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:07:42pm

re: #178 Alouette

They let out the new Stepford Michelle for a test run on Paula Deen's cooking show.

The first ones had rubber skin, we spotted them easy... But these are new...

/O-800s are sent back in time by Skynet to take whitey's stuff

564 J.S.  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:07:43pm

re: #546 jwb7605

...convenes a Conference for Muslim Leaders to discuss AmeriKKKan foreign policies
...opens an investigation into American "war crimes" and assorted allegations of American "criminality" committed abroad
...frees all terrorists with a Presidential pardon and closes Gitmo
...develops a specific tax on Americans so as to increase funds to Arab states, Third World nations, and China; so as to offset poverty abroad

etc.

565 Thanos  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:07:54pm

re: #550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have 12 pairs of the exact same socks! Take that! Infernal sock stealing machine! Have to re-stock every year or so. Throw away 7 socks when I give up.

There's some physics theorizing behind this. Some speculate that an air bubble gets caught in the toe of the sock, causing it to float to the top. Then the spin cycle hits and off it goes with the water over the top lip, powered by centrifugal force. Out with the water, and down the drain.

566 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:08:01pm
567 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:08:04pm

re: #559 Syrah

One out of two is doing well.

I remember that one of the worst classes I had there was an entry level biology class with a crazy moon bat who spent most of his class time hating Reagan.

Actually the other class I had that last semester was Western Civ. First time I Watched "All Quiet on the Western Front". Very moving film. One thing I distinctly remember from that time was I woke up with a bad back, could hardly move, yet I forced myself to go to class and do my exam. Had to suck it up.

568 Intrepid  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:08:07pm

re: #498 itellu3times

So Intrepid is a cheat (and a "she", btw), and Mandy is screwed but in a small way, and itellu3times gets the mega shaft.

And Intrepid seems to be George Soros, making money off of the market while screwing other folks.

Right?

569 Bobibutu  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:08:17pm

re: #555 DesertSage

I think Sarah Palin did a great job.
She will make a fine VP!

Mooseburgers for everyone!

You want a BBQ? Moose ribs are to die for.

Ah - it's all good.

570 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:08:18pm

re: #551 MandyManners

thanks mandy. i still don't know who it is.
but that's ok.

571 Cartman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:09:07pm

re: #550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

All kidding aside, I want to know where those damn socks really end up going. It makes no sense. They were in my house to start with, and I didn't throw them out. They've still gotta be here somewhere, but I'll be damned if I can find 'em. Unmatched socks - one of life's great mysteries.

572 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:09:26pm

re: #556 Occasional Reader

Um, no, on that one.

Can we please drop that? It's John Birch-style nuttery.

I'll drop it, but that was actually a campaign suggestion from Obama.
Scared the snot out of me, but I didn't think much of it at the time.

Was John Birch into logical progression?

573 J.S.  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:09:35pm

re: #564 J.S.

O yeah, and almost forgot

...creates a new "enemies of Obama" list with a Congressional Un-American/Obama Committee headed up by Ayers and Wright

574 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:09:48pm

re: #562 Sharmuta

I don't know, but Charles said it was a sock.

Uh, Peacekeeper? He uses "moosecrimp", doesn't he?

575 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:09:49pm

re: #565 Thanos

I got your "air bubble" right here! Clothing maintenance machines live on the souls of stolen socks. You can't convince me otherwise.

Investigate 911!

576 jcm  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:10:01pm

re: #560 Bobibutu

Mine were lost to mold and other emulsion eating critters. I should have shipped them to the US but kept them in Asia with me - Bangkok and Singapore for another 6 years - toast.

Ouch! That kind of thing really hurts, especially years later.

577 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:10:12pm

re: #565 Thanos

There's some physics theorizing behind this. Some speculate that an air bubble gets caught in the toe of the sock, causing it to float to the top. Then the spin cycle hits and off it goes with the water over the top lip, powered by centrifugal force. Out with the water, and down the drain.

I've always suspect the washer. The dryer is a patsy!

578 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:10:22pm

re: #570 nyc redneck

thanks mandy. i still don't know who it is.
but that's ok.

Whoever it is has some serious grammar issues.

579 J.S.  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:10:51pm

re: #573 J.S.

That would be the "Wright Ayers" Committee...

580 JeremyR  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:10:54pm

I need to get some sleep. Cindy gets transfered from Stormont Vail to a rehab hospital tomorrow and I have to pick her up at 9:00. SHe had another stroke on Sunday. Her fourth in just over two years.

581 Thanos  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:11:07pm

re: #571 Cartman

See 565

582 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:11:41pm

re: #573 J.S.

O yeah, and almost forgot

...creates a new "enemies of Obama" list with a Congressional Un-American/Obama Committee headed up by Ayers and Wright

i guess it will be "pack your hobo bundle for the gulag."

583 Bobibutu  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:12:13pm

re: #548 jcm

Thank you for the tip tho - I still have a film camera - rarely used - "if it's not digital - it's not permanent" is my motto now.

584 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:12:14pm

re: #566 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Damn. Anybody listened to "Just My Imagination" lately?

One of my favorite songs!

585 Thanos  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:12:44pm

re: #580 JeremyR

I need to get some sleep. Cindy gets transfered from Stormont Vail to a rehab hospital tomorrow and I have to pick her up at 9:00. SHe had another stroke on Sunday. Her fourth in just over two years.

Jeremy, truly sorry to hear that. Hang in there friend.

586 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:12:57pm

Speaking of socks. Stubbed my pinky toe this morning. Not broken, but DAMN!

587 williwonka  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:13:31pm

re: #447 Catttt

O.K. Barry is a tool. What kind of tool?

Barry = Sputterer
Biden = Putty Knife
McCain = Buzz saw
Palin = Adapter
H. Clinton = Glass cutter
B. Clinton = Nail Gun

588 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:13:39pm

re: #572 jwb7605

I'll drop it, but that was actually a campaign suggestion from Obama.

It was a dumb, throwaway line in a speech about volunteerism. I think Barry didn't even know what he was saying. Which is scary in its own right, but in a different way.

589 jcm  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:13:42pm

re: #583 Bobibutu

Thank you for the tip tho - I still have a film camera - rarely used - "if it's not digital - it's not permanent" is my motto now.

Make sure update digital periodically. Noting is really permanent, and with digital a format change can catch you also.

590 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:14:13pm

re: #580 JeremyR

The stubbed toe has been placed in perspective.

My thoughts are with you and Cindy, my friend.

591 J.S.  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:14:27pm

re: #582 nyc redneck

They'll all be sent to Alaska...

592 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:14:40pm

There is a little known off shoot sect of the "underwear gnomes". They steal one sock, then another, then PROFIT! They are the poorer cousins of the underwear gnomes. They are known as the "whatinhell are we gonna do with all these single socks sect"

593 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:14:47pm

re: #587 williwonka

O.K. Barry is a tool. What kind of tool?

Barry = Sputterer
Biden = Putty Knife
McCain = Buzz saw
Palin = Adapter
H. Clinton = Glass cutter
B. Clinton = Nail Gun

Ex-Gov. Spitzer - naked gun.

594 jcm  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:14:49pm

re: #588 Occasional Reader

It was a dumb, throwaway line in a speech about volunteerism. I think Barry didn't even know what he was saying. Which is scary in its own right, but in a different way.

It was an off the cuff remark not in the released text. Which IMHO makes it more of insight into the inner thoughts of Obama, that's what bothers me.

595 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:14:50pm

re: #577 Sharmuta

I've always suspect the washer. The dryer is a patsy!

That line really did make me laugh out loud.

596 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:14:59pm
597 itellu3times  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:15:17pm

re: #568 Intrepid

So Intrepid is a cheat (and a "she", btw), and Mandy is screwed but in a small way, and itellu3times gets the mega shaft.

And Intrepid seems to be George Soros, making money off of the market while screwing other folks.

Right?

I stand corrected regarding Intrepid, the rich and powerful!

All I can say is that these are the allegations, as I have been led to understand them.

598 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:15:35pm

re: #592 pingjockey

There is a little known off shoot sect of the "underwear gnomes". They steal one sock, then another, then PROFIT! They are the poorer cousins of the underwear gnomes. They are known as the "whatinhell are we gonna do with all these single socks sect"

Cats create extra gravity. That's why everything ends up in the basement.

599 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:15:38pm

re: #584 DesertSage

One of my favorite songs!

How can that song NOT be one of anyone's favorite songs.

Thanks for the comment though. I am totally bummed right now!

600 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:16:18pm

re: #591 J.S.

They'll all be sent to Alaska...

well,
ok, then.

601 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:16:25pm

re: #598 Catttt
Now how did I forget that?

602 Cartman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:16:32pm

re: #581 Thanos

I thought that was in jest. Wouldn't the drain back up after about the third sock getting stuck in there? I ain't no plumber, but...

603 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:16:48pm

re: #595 Occasional Reader

That line really did make me laugh out loud.

Victory!

604 JeremyR  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:16:52pm

re: #585 Thanos

re: #590 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks. Its b een a rough week. Good night all.

605 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:17:11pm

re: #586 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Speaking of socks. Stubbed my pinky toe this morning. Not broken, but DAMN!

My wife did that a few years back. She tripped over the cat in the dark and actually broke a toe.
Some friends got her a cane with a mirror and a horn. Hilarious, but she didn't see the humor in it.
Last year, I had some "leg surgery". The wife got that cane out and with what I know was a wicked cruel smile on her face said "here, you can use this" sympathetically.

606 Palandine  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:17:16pm

My deep thought on the financial mess before bedtime.

A lot of people who couldn't afford houses got greedy and "bought" them. Others leveraged their homes to the hilt for boats, other luxuries, granite counter tops, etc. and got caught out when it all went to hell. A lot of people were greedy, a lot of businesses were greedy, and congress aided and abetted all of them.

It seems like it would be easier if we all lived within our means. I KNOW I'm reading too much into it, but if you watch that free credit report dot com commercial (and if you watch cable, you can't NOT see it)--the second most recent one, with the bike--the idiot hippie is singing about FINANCING a one-speed bike. Just save up the $50 and buy it, idiot. Radical idea, I know.

/f to the r to the e to the e (your earwig for the day)

607 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:17:17pm

re: #602 Cartman
Seriously, socks cannot get out of the washer with the water.

608 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:17:30pm

re: #596 taxfreekiller

Dear America,

It was a pyramid scheme, you have been played, you got the last chance at the scheme no one left but you. Now they will RTC you once more.

Ya know TFK? I should read you more carefully. You are a seer.

609 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:17:32pm

re: #602 Cartman

I thought that was in jest. Wouldn't the drain back up after about the third sock getting stuck in there? I ain't no plumber, but...

My theory is the socks get sucked under the agitator.

610 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:17:38pm
611 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:18:09pm

re: #604 JeremyR

G'night pal.

612 Cartman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:19:08pm

re: #580 JeremyR

Prayers going up for you and Cindy. Get some sleeps.

613 jcm  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:19:33pm

The dryer creates wormholes and socks get sucked into another dimension. The race on the receiving end of this continual bombardment is getting ready to declare war on us.

614 itellu3times  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:19:37pm

re: #596 taxfreekiller

What he said.

615 Bobibutu  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:19:38pm

re: #576 jcm

Ouch! That kind of thing really hurts, especially years later.

Yeah - 4+ years in Nam - choppers - C-130s - Elmer Fudds out to Yankee Station and Carrier landings - stuff lighting up - 52 strikes and massive hours of aerial photos while flying with Air America and the Army in their Beachcrafts (Queenairs with Kingair wings.)

Most gone - I lament.

616 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:19:38pm

re: #610 ploome hineni
Not enough centripetal(?) force to push the water out like a top loader.
Or maybe centrifugal force?

617 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:19:56pm

re: #610 ploome hineni

I have a Kenmore front loader, I find the spin cycle is not as effective as the top loader was

somy clothes are kinda wet when the washing is done

do I have a problem with my machine, or are they all like that?

As an Employee (and adorer) of Sears, who knows absolutely nothing about appliances, I think somethings wrong. Go ask at the store. Stuff's supposed to be almost dry when you take it out.

But, many...many people know more about it than I.

618 Intrepid  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:19:58pm

re: #557 JeremyR

When a politician puts an R by their name, it translates as I R a TARGET

And when a politician puts a D by their name, it translates as "I am DEFENDED" by the MSM.

In his election cycle it has been so very blatant that the MSM is in the tank for Obama it just is not funny.

And the PUMAs are on the warpath about how Hillary was treated by the Obama machine. They will not meekly vote "D" in the election, and as a matter of fact, they are actively campaigning against Obama.

Fascinating year in politics, this one.

619 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:20:19pm

re: #485 MandyManners

/*cough* Does it's old nic start with an 's', as in 'shit'? And is it a total schmuck and a plagiarist, among it's better attributes?

620 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:20:27pm

re: #613 jcm

You are a dryerphobe!

621 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:20:45pm

re: #613 jcm
Mwahahaha! Maybe David Weber or David Drake can do a short story on the Multidimensional sock wars!

622 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:20:45pm

re: #594 jcm

It was an off the cuff remark not in the released text. Which IMHO makes it more of insight into the inner thoughts of Obama, that's what bothers me.

I immediately jumped to the 'armed trained militia' train of thought because of his casual relationships with Ayers/Dorn and his allegiance to Saul Alinsky.

Sorry, but I judge people by the company they keep.

623 Cartman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:20:47pm

re: #607 pingjockey

Seriously, socks cannot get out of the washer with the water.

But are you sure? ;)

624 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:20:50pm
625 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:21:04pm

I, for one, welcome our new Gold Toe overlords.

626 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:21:35pm

re: #610 ploome hineni

I've a Maytag, and it works very, very well. The spin cycle really dries the clothes, and I've found that things get cleaner.

I'm surprised your Kenmore isn't better behaved. Sears usually sells good products.

627 jcm  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:21:37pm

re: #620 Sharmuta

You are a dryerphobe!

Don't go near 'em, you don't know where you'll end up!

628 gmsc  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:21:50pm

Now Palin has been disinvited from speaking at the protest rally against Unmendeddinnerjacket because both Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden refuse to share the stage with Palin!

She's really scaring the democrats. Either that, or they feel guilty about having their operatives hack into her e-mail.

629 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:21:51pm

re: #617 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I used to have a ringer washer. It was fun to operate & it got the clothes really clean because it did not basically use the clothes to filter all the dirty water on the way out.

Like a top loader does.

630 noshariaincanada  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:22:09pm

in the absence of an open thread, this is slowly devolving into one

631 Racer X  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:22:09pm

re: #625 Occasional Reader

I, for one, welcome our new Gold Toe overlords.

Put a sock in it.

632 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:22:11pm

re: #624 ploome hineni

Seriously Ploome...they're supposed to have the 'ell spun out of them before the cycle stops. Hope you bought the Maintenance agreement or they're fairly new.

633 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:22:20pm

re: #609 Sharmuta

Lift out the agitator. I did find a few, back at the old house, in the old washer.

634 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:22:28pm
635 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:22:33pm

re: #623 Cartman
Yes. I have become a fair home repairman. The washer wasn't working right. Took it apart. Was a short nub of pencil that had slipped through the drain holes.

636 realwest  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:22:50pm

Good evening all y'all - late to the party again! Sorry about that!
Are we still On Topic or have we sorted just
[Link: www.imeem.com...]

637 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:23:19pm

re: #624 ploome hineni
I have no frakkin' idea. I don't know anyone who has a front load washer. Sorry.

638 desertbrat  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:23:26pm

re: #15 livefreeor die

"she will make an excellent sith lord"

She will make an excellent SEETHE lord.

639 jcm  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:23:49pm

re: #635 pingjockey

Yes. I have become a fair home repairman. The washer wasn't working right. Took it apart. Was a short nub of pencil that had slipped through the drain holes.

I found out Fridgedaire won't release maintenance manuals or schematics for DIY types. Most of the rest I've found online.

640 Racer X  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:23:51pm

re: #636 realwest

Hiya RW!

641 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:24:07pm
642 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:24:14pm

re: #633 Dianna

Lift out the agitator. I did find a few, back at the old house, in the old washer.

And people think I'm nuts. Thank you, Dianna. I suspect the dryer troofers will be out to get you know, however.

643 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:24:24pm

re: #619 NY Nana

There are those who think so.

644 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:24:25pm

re: #634 ploome hineni

I think I overloaded it once...washed a bathroom rug

:O

So - it's pouting now?

645 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:24:41pm

re: #642 Sharmuta

Er- now, not know. *sigh*

646 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:24:52pm

re: #621 pingjockey

Mwahahaha! Maybe David Weber or David Drake can do a short story on the Multidimensional sock wars!

John Ringo'd be a better choice - he has a wonderful, quirky sense of humour. It would appeal to him, too.

Pity he's so busy.

647 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:25:03pm

re: #636 realwest
We have definetly gone somewhere, don't know where, don't know when. Paint your wagon and come along.

648 rednaxela  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:25:09pm

Everything I've seen of Palin on Youtube and C-Span before August, i.e. her interviews in Alaska, her performance at the gubernatorial debates etc. have been great.

So I am a bit disappointed with her two interviews so far.

Specifically, she should:

1.) Stop saying "also" so often.

2.) Stop saying too much in these interviews, i.e. trying to impress.

3.) Stop using soundbites from her RNC acceptance speech. It's wearing a bit thin.

Don't get me wrong, I think she's a terrific candidate, I just wish she would revert back to the way she handled interviews etc. before 8/29. Yes, its a different stage for her now but that shouldn't bother her.

649 jcm  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:25:30pm

re: #610 ploome hineni

I have a Kenmore front loader, I find the spin cycle is not as effective as the top loader was

somy clothes are kinda wet when the washing is done

do I have a problem with my machine, or are they all like that?

The cycle switch, the thing behind the main knob may be short cycling.

650 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:25:34pm
651 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:25:34pm

re: #639 jcm
I hate when they do that. Assholes.

652 rancher  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:25:52pm

Sara's been disinvited from the anti-Iran rally. This because Hillary's a bitch.

653 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:25:54pm
654 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:25:54pm

re: #629 Ojoe

Having a very cool memory right now; thanks. Helping my "granny" (are there any more of those?) pull the clothes through the ringer. One of my more pleasant childhood memories. And I had a great childhood.

Damn. (Whistful smile).

The smell of bleach and detergent and spring water. Sigh.

This sounds stupid, but I am about in tears.

655 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:25:55pm

re: #594 jcm

It was an off the cuff remark not in the released text. Which IMHO makes it more of insight into the inner thoughts of Obama, that's what bothers me.

If you listen to it, it seems clear (at least to me) that he was basically trying to say that all this wonderful volunteerism will make us more "secure", by making everyone like us more, etc. etc. Of course, he says even THAT wrong, and mixes it all up when talking about "recruiting" and "calling to service", not to mention throwing in "doubling our Foreign Service" - uh, Foreign Service officers aren't "volunteers", Barry, they're paid.

It's a hash of foggy ideas, as usual, but I really don't read anything in it REMOTELY like the "he's gonna arm gangbangers to be the Obama Brown Shirts!" hysteria I've seen here from time to time.

656 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:26:01pm

re: #634 ploome hineni

I think I overloaded it once...washed a bathroom rug

:O

Oooh. Tell me it wasn't rubberized!

657 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:26:02pm

re: #646 Dianna
That'd work too!

658 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:26:25pm
659 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:26:52pm
660 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:26:55pm

re: #624 ploome hineni

Call Sears. They usually have a very good warranty and repair department.

661 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:27:25pm

re: #643 MandyManners

There are those who think so.

GMTA.....

662 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:27:48pm
663 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:27:48pm

re: #628 gmsc

Now Palin has been disinvited from speaking at the protest rally against Unmendeddinnerjacket because both Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden refuse to share the stage with Palin!

She's really scaring the democrats. Either that, or they feel guilty about having their operatives hack into her e-mail.

she's scaring them.
and hillary doesn't want to be upstaged by gov. palin.

664 jcm  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:27:53pm

re: #651 pingjockey

I hate when they do that. Assholes.

I love talking to computer tech support. Until I get to level 3 I know more than the support guys, and if it could be fixed at level 1 or 2 I would've done it.

I call up and say this or that is failing and how I came to the conclusion. The level 1 tech support is "huuuhhhh."

665 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:28:08pm
666 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:28:08pm

re: #652 rancher
So no donk or repub is gonna speak now?

667 spirochete  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:28:16pm

re: #615 Bobibutu

My now dead father in law flew with Air America. Chuck, from Indiana. Sure wish I had a photo of him for my daughter.

668 cliffster  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:28:39pm

re: #610 ploome hineni

I have a Kenmore front loader, I find the spin cycle is not as effective as the top loader was

somy clothes are kinda wet when the washing is done

do I have a problem with my machine, or are they all like that?

What is this? I just came back to my computer and there is a thread on Sarah Palin and the conversation is about washing clothes? Sexist and demeaning :P

669 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:28:45pm

re: #664 jcm
True dat!

670 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:28:47pm

re: #652 rancher

This because Hillary's a bitch.

/Please do not insult bitches.

671 realwest  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:28:59pm

re: #640 Racer X
Hey Racer X - how are ya tonight my friend?

672 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:29:02pm

re: #661 NY Nana

GMTA.....

You're gonna' get lambasted, you know.

673 jcm  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:29:03pm

re: #660 Dianna

Call Sears. They usually have a very good warranty and repair department.

Are loads done in less time than before?

The manual or online FAQ will have a cycle time reference.

674 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:29:04pm

re: #668 cliffster

What is this? I just came back to my computer and there is a thread on Sarah Palin and the conversation is about washing clothes? Sexist and demeaning :P

LMAO!

675 Racer X  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:29:23pm

re: #663 nyc redneck

she's scaring them.
and hillary doesn't want to be upstaged by gov. palin.

Hillary and Biden don't want to send mixed messages to Iran. Palin was going there to protest.

676 rancher  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:29:33pm

And you got to get up pretty early to scoop this bunch. Earlier than 9pm anyway.

677 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:29:41pm

re: #665 ploome hineni

SHOOT YER WASHER.

678 realwest  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:30:19pm

re: #647 pingjockey
Aw crap, ping, I don't want to paint my wagon at this hour of the night!
I'd much rather listen to some tunes!
How are you doing?

679 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:30:45pm

re: #653 ploome hineni

It's possible it got off balance. I'm not sure how this happens, but I've read that it can happen.

680 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:30:49pm

re: #597 itellu3times

All I can say is that these are the allegations, as I have been led to understand them.

I certainly hope they investigate, because the market hasn't been behaving normally lately, not many other ways to explain what's been rationally happening with these banks in the last couple weeks.

After Obama fell behind and then surged back this week, bad mouthing the economy.

/what heavy hitter(s) might resort to pro-Obama illegal market manipulation . . . hmmm?

681 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:30:49pm

re: #668 cliffster
I do the laundry in my house! My better half is an extremely lucky woman,
She got the trained model, after I'd retired from the navy. Heh. Plus she's got bum knees and the stairs suck.

682 Bobibutu  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:31:12pm

re: #589 jcm

Make sure update digital periodically. Noting is really permanent, and with digital a format change can catch you also.

Damn - it's just not simple anymore!

Once upon a time I knew how to link up 2 computers using STR (synchronous transmit receive) so they could talk to each other.
(Mainframe to Mainframe)

My IBM buddies and I helped build the Internet back in the old days - we do not understand it anymore - we are content to talh to each other with email and browser functions.

The rest we leave to the younger generations who have built skyscrapers on the foundation we provided.

683 Racer X  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:31:14pm

re: #671 realwest

Hey Racer X - how are ya tonight my friend?

Doin ok my friend - enjoying the fun that is election season. How are things with you?

684 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:31:18pm

re: #672 MandyManners

You're gonna' get lambasted, you know.

Coming from that POS? I will be ROTFL!

685 SpartanWoman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:31:27pm

re: #652 rancher

Sara's been disinvited from the anti-Iran rally. This because Hillary's a bitch.

Iran is the big winner here. Many people came to hear the pols and speakers not just to stand there with signs. But, I suspect many of the organizers consider Palin a bigger threat than Iran. Asshats

686 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:31:40pm

re: #639 jcm

I found out Fridgedaire won't release maintenance manuals or schematics for DIY types. Most of the rest I've found online.

Try ebay. Seriously. I found a manual on there.

687 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:31:56pm

re: #656 Dianna

Oooh. Tell me it wasn't rubberized!

I did that once ... rubberized rug.
The wife said "I can't believe you did that".
I reminded her we've been married almost 36 years.
She said "you never used to do laundry".
I said "I'm trying to get back to those days".

Refer to my previous post #605.

I don't think it was the washing machine, though. The dryer seemed to be the problem.

688 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:32:19pm

re: #678 realwest
Not bad. How're you this evening?

689 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:32:22pm
690 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:32:38pm

re: #660 Dianna

Call Sears. They usually have a very good warranty and repair department.

Dammit! Here's a commercial!

Saw an article on Yahoo a month or so ago. "Surprising places to buy appliances". What was the surprise? Lowes and Home Depot. But made me very happy to hear..."but Sears goes above and beyond any of the above companies listed when it comes to any problems."

Paraphrasing, but, loves me some Sears.

Will not listen to complaining though. No one can please everyone.

(fingers in ears, lah lah lah lah, I'm not listening! lah lah lah lah!)

691 rancher  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:33:06pm

re: #666 pingjockey

So no donk or repub is gonna speak now?

Yep, that way it's bipartisan. Or something.

692 realwest  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:33:06pm

re: #652 rancher
Hey Rancher - saw this at the bottom of your link:

"In a conference call with 900 rabbis, Barack Obama said he supports government funding for after-school programs in religious schools."
Um, what?

693 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:33:07pm

re: #673 jcm

I don't have a Kenmore, I've a Maytag. Lovely machine, and it behaves well.

694 yesandno  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:33:11pm

re: #610 ploome hineni

I have a Kenmore front loader, I find the spin cycle is not as effective as the top loader was

somy clothes are kinda wet when the washing is done

do I have a problem with my machine, or are they all like that?

Call Sears....should be at least as effective or more effective then top loader...particularly if it is new. Replaced a very good machine that wore out this year with the front loader...thought I was at the airport in a jet taking off...sounds like a jet engine in the spin cycle....and dry, very dry. And if I use hot water, even more so.

695 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:33:14pm
696 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:33:29pm

re: #650 ploome hineni

GE makes the worst appliances

I have a GE frige, never again

It is falling apart, and very difficult to clean

i have to clean mine soon,
i hate cleaning. i wish i could afford a cleaning person.
today, i did windows and screens, that was ok. i was outside.

your clothes should not be wet after the wash cycle.
they should be barely damp like a properly 'wrung' out dish rag.
if they're wet, the dryer has to work overtime.

697 Alouette  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:33:59pm

re: #692 realwest

Hey Rancher - saw this at the bottom of your link:

"In a conference call with 900 rabbis, Barack Obama said he supports government funding for after-school programs in religious schools."
Um, what?

Because he is opposed to vouchers for people sending their kids to religious schools.

698 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:34:03pm
699 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:34:15pm

re: #691 rancher
The 'or something' is probably on point.

700 SpartanWoman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:34:23pm

re: #691 rancher

Yep, that way it's bipartisan. Or something.

That way it's empty

701 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:34:51pm

Back in college, my friends and I would smoke some weed and watcher the dryer spinning our clothes through the glass window.

Sad- it's actually better entertainment than most of what's on TV these days.

702 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:34:51pm

re: #696 nyc redneck
FYI, GE owns NBC and all that entails.

703 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:34:52pm

re: #698 ploome hineni

mine is so quiet,I don;t know it's on

Mine sounds like a battalion of gremlins with bagpipes.

704 Bobibutu  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:35:30pm

re: #667 spirochete

My now dead father in law flew with Air America. Chuck, from Indiana. Sure wish I had a photo of him for my daughter.

My Gawd - those guys were off the chart.

I will poll my buddies if you send me a name /place. It was a small community.

705 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:35:48pm

re: #701 Sharmuta

re: #703 Catttt

MWAHAHAHAHA! Squared.

706 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:36:31pm

re: #687 jwb7605

I did that once ... rubberized rug.
The wife said "I can't believe you did that".
I reminded her we've been married almost 36 years.
She said "you never used to do laundry".
I said "I'm trying to get back to those days".

Refer to my previous post #605.

I don't think it was the washing machine, though. The dryer seemed to be the problem.

Melted, did it?

It's bad for the washer - it knocks the tub all around, and that's bad for the motor and so on. But the heat of the dryer will melt it and leave an awful mess.

I've never figured out why sneakers generally don't melt.

707 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:36:36pm

re: #702 pingjockey

FYI, GE owns NBC and all that entailsthose entrails.


spellcheck wouldn't have caught that.

708 Palandine  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:36:58pm

re: #692 realwest

I've heard Obama say that.

The kicker is, once the federal funding kicks in, religious programs cannot hire according to their beliefs.

So, the Jewish school might HAVE to hire Rage Boy, or lose their funding.

/religious organizations should avoid federal funds like the plague

709 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:37:36pm

re: #697 Alouette


re: #692 realwest

Hey Rancher - saw this at the bottom of your link:

"In a conference call with 900 rabbis, Barack Obama said he supports government funding for after-school programs in religious schools."
Um, what?

Because he is opposed to vouchers for people sending their kids to religious schools.

Also, because Obama will say anything that will draw applause from whoever happens to be sitting in front of him at the moment, no matter how incongruous that thing may be.

710 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:37:44pm

re: #707 jwb7605
That is actually better.

711 stevieray  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:38:14pm

re: #650 ploome hineni

GE makes the worst appliances

I have a GE frige, never again

It is falling apart, and very difficult to clean

I agree. I have a GE Advantium oven -- microwave, convection, and "cook with light" combo. The interior light burns out once a month, the vent fan is getting louder every day, and the trim on the exhaust snapped off and fell onto the stove when I was in another room, all by itself!

712 Bubblehead II  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:38:17pm

re: #643 MandyManners

And did it claim to drive a big rig and have a pregnant daughter?

713 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:38:48pm

re: #702 pingjockey

FYI, GE owns NBC and all that entails.

GE appliance (I've heard) has a program called "Sigma Six" (nothing to do with the military's version).

Basically, trying to figure out how to get an appliance to fail (with 96% accuracy) within a month after the warranty expiration.

Redefining "planned obsolescence". GE. We bring good things to light!

714 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:38:49pm

re: #703 Catttt

Mine sounds like a battalion of gremlins with bagpipes.

My washer's spin cycle does lead me to suspect that it's attempting escape velocity.

715 Cartman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:39:03pm

re: #701 Sharmuta

Back in college, my friends and I would smoke some weed and watcher the dryer spinning our clothes through the glass window.

That musta been some good sh*t. ;)

716 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:39:07pm

I volunteered to do OT tomorrow (my day off), so I have to go to bed. We are suddenly busy busy busy.

717 cliffster  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:39:21pm

re: #681 pingjockey

I do the laundry in my house! My better half is an extremely lucky woman,
She got the trained model, after I'd retired from the navy. Heh. Plus she's got bum knees and the stairs suck.

I did the laundry in my house once. My wife told me she appreciates the opportunity to go buy new clothes, but please don't do any more laundry - go cut the grass or plant some stuff.

718 JCM  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:39:28pm

LOL!

Woman's never seen a tow truck, or truck being delivered.

719 realwest  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:40:15pm

re: #655 Occasional Reader
Good evening O.R. - well I don't think Obama's gonna arm the gang bangers either, but read the line the way I did and tell me that you think it was a throw away line with no real meaning:
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. "
I'm a helluva long way from a John Bircher or a Chicken Little, but WTF could he have meant by that?
A civilian force to achieve national security objectives
just as powerful, as strong and as well funded as our military?!

720 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:40:23pm

re: #713 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My Father (btw) retired from GE while they were still an America Loving Great Company!

721 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:40:35pm

My deep thoughts on the financial crisis:

I am looking into a split-level hovel and a good rag suit. Can someone recommend a corner to set up my apple selling stand?

722 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:41:07pm

Good night!

723 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:41:09pm

re: #714 Dianna

My washer's spin cycle does lead me to suspect that it's attempting escape velocity.

If it goes to Ludicrous Speed, head for the hills! It might even go plaid!

724 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:41:20pm

re: #719 realwest

Good evening O.R. - well I don't think Obama's gonna arm the gang bangers either, but read the line the way I did and tell me that you think it was a throw away line with no real meaning:
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. "
I'm a helluva long way from a John Bircher or a Chicken Little, but WTF could he have meant by that?
A civilian force to achieve national security objectives
just as powerful, as strong and as well funded as our military?!

Obama is afflicted with foot-in-mouth disease.

725 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:41:29pm

Actress Rose McGowan rapped for pro-IRA comments

The producers of the IRA drama "Fifty Dead Men Walking" have taken the unusual step of distancing themselves from incendiary comments made by the film's star, Rose McGowan.

The actress caused a stir at the Toronto Film Festival last week when she said she would have joined the Irish Republican Army had she lived in Belfast during the Troubles. She said she could understand why people turned to violence during that time in Northern Ireland.

But I bet if she'd said this about hamas, they wouldn't have even blinked.

726 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:41:37pm

re: #723 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If it goes to Ludicrous Speed, head for the hills! It might even go plaid!

No, first you hve to get to ridiculous speed.

727 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:41:54pm

OT ;) NY Grampa's new 'puter came today, but he can't get it to connect to the internet. Problem is that we got a new modem last week and the modem will not connect through the router. It is connected directly to this computer. Router is off-line. NY Grampa says he has to call Netgear in the AM. But he didn't say exactly what he would call them!

Any suggestions?

728 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:41:54pm

re: #713 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ah. See I used to deal with 2 sigma and six sigma and that is definetly for QC, not planned failures. Now we know why uberdork still has a show.

729 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:42:42pm

I love to quote Spaceballs ... and Ghostbusters.

730 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:42:54pm

re: #727 NY Nana

OT ;) NY Grampa's new 'puter came today, but he can't get it to connect to the internet. Problem is that we got a new modem last week and the modem will not connect through the router. It is connected directly to this computer. Router is off-line. NY Grampa says he has to call Netgear in the AM. But he didn't say exactly what he would call them!

Any suggestions?

Cable co. router?

731 Racer X  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:42:59pm

re: #721 Tigger2005

My deep thoughts on the financial crisis:

I am looking into a split-level hovel and a good rag suit. Can someone recommend a corner to set up my apple selling stand?

Back away from my cardboard box.

732 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:43:07pm

re: #722 MandyManners

Good night!

What Mandy said. I can guarantee you I'll dream of my "Granny" tonight. Thanks again for whoever sent my flood of sweet memories tonight.

Bless Y'all!

P.S. Galloping Granny! Luv U Too!

733 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:43:28pm

Bill Clinton to appear on 'The View'

Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has agreed to make his first appearance on the daytime talk show "The View," ABC said Thursday.

/is this good or bad for Obama?

734 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:43:34pm

re: #727 NY Nana

OT ;) NY Grampa's new 'puter came today, but he can't get it to connect to the internet. Problem is that we got a new modem last week and the modem will not connect through the router. It is connected directly to this computer. Router is off-line. NY Grampa says he has to call Netgear in the AM. But he didn't say exactly what he would call them!

Any suggestions?

If they're liberals, call them Palin lovers.

735 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:43:45pm

re: #721 Tigger2005

My deep thoughts on the financial crisis:

I am looking into a split-level hovel and a good rag suit. Can someone recommend a corner to set up my apple selling stand?

tigger, i don't think it's going to come to that.
but i'll go in w/ you, if it does, i've got the apples.
:)

736 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:43:47pm

re: #727 NY Nana
Pointy headed pin heads who aren't qualified to even try out for the geek squad would be a good start.

737 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:44:25pm

re: #725 Sharmuta

Actress Rose McGowan rapped for pro-IRA comments

But I bet if she'd said this about hamas, they wouldn't have even blinked.

Rose M is a hottie!

738 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:44:37pm

re: #727 NY Nana

OT ;) NY Grampa's new 'puter came today, but he can't get it to connect to the internet. Problem is that we got a new modem last week and the modem will not connect through the router. It is connected directly to this computer. Router is off-line. NY Grampa says he has to call Netgear in the AM. But he didn't say exactly what he would call them!

Any suggestions?

Nana - did he open a web-browser and type in the router IP address?

739 realwest  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:44:55pm

re: #683 Racer X
Ah, things are ok I guess, glad to hear you're doing well!

740 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:44:57pm

re: #728 pingjockey

I did preface it with "I heard" (from a GE Engineer). If I'm wrong, I'll apologize to TAE, even Jack Welch, but not the current guy!

741 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:45:00pm

re: #733 Killian Bundy
They'll have to cancel the show. All those harpies except Elizabeth will be in line to get under the desk for him.

742 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:45:19pm

re: #719 realwest

See my comment above. I think he was trying to get all "unicorns and rainbows" about the concept of "national security", meaning that it includes fighting global warming with our National Energy Conservation Volunteers, etc. etc.

And keep in mind, when he's off-script, even a little, Barry is a lousy speaker. He just makes hopey-changey sounds, and doesn't really know much about what they mean.

743 Thanos  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:45:24pm

re: #602 Cartman

I thought that was in jest. Wouldn't the drain back up after about the third sock getting stuck in there? I ain't no plumber, but...

The socks wouldn't necessarily stick, they are in soapy water with a lot of force behind it. They also only have a short haul through 1.5 or 2 inch pipe before they hit the main sewer lines, generally plenty large enough. I won't get into the graphic description that I could of other large things that pass through those lines...

744 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:45:47pm

re: #740 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Don't blame you.

745 gop_patriot  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:45:51pm

re: #720 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My Father (btw) retired from GE while they were still an America Loving Great Company!

So did my father in law! Well, he sold GE commercially.

He and my mil bought a GE refrigerator a couple of years ago and they've had the icemaker replaced 2 or three times, and the door handle, which runs from the top to the bottom of the fridge, fell off- he had to glue it back on. He said he'd never buy another GE product. It was really disappointing to him.

746 realwest  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:45:51pm

re: #688 pingjockey
Ok, my friend, I'm doing ok, thanks!

747 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:46:09pm

re: #737 Tigger2005

Rose M is a hottie!

She dated Marilyn Manson. He gets all the hot chicks.

748 mich-again  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:47:19pm

I wonder what kind of secret diplomacy 0bama and Biden are pursuing with Ahmadinejad. Hey Mahmoud, can you guys step up the attacks for a while so we can ridicule the surge again?

749 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:47:35pm

re: #738 reine.de.tout

Nana - did he open a web-browser and type in the router IP address?

You may need to have the cable co recycle the router and assign you a new IP address.

750 Cartman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:47:40pm

re: #727 NY Nana

I think that with some ISPs you have to supply them with the machine id of the new modem and/or router to get connectivity.

751 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:47:45pm

re: #747 Catttt

She dated Marilyn Manson. He gets all the hot chicks.

Still here and EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

(Marilyn, not Rose)

Hey Irish Rose! Purrrrrrrrr.

752 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:48:08pm

re: #751 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Still here and EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

(Marilyn, not Rose)

Hey Irish Rose! Purrrrrrrrr.

Marilyn is hot.

753 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:48:17pm

Bedtime! Good night.

754 itellu3times  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:48:30pm

re: #680 Killian Bundy

I certainly hope they investigate, because the market hasn't been behaving normally lately, not many other ways to explain what's been rationally happening with these banks in the last couple weeks.

After Obama fell behind and then surged back this week, bad mouthing the economy.

/what heavy hitter(s) might resort to pro-Obama illegal market manipulation . . . hmmm?

Here are two thoughts on that.

1. It would take an incredible amount of money to purposely attack any one of these companies, much less the lot of them. And an incredible amount of nerve, because results were not at all guaranteed. Say, $100m/day, for a week or three, per company. Tens of billions of dollars put at risk.

2. The failure of these institutions involves another incredible amount of money, quickly building towards a trillion dollars. This money has effectively vanished. One has to wonder if and when it will reappear.

Meanwhile, it is being replenished by diluting the dollar, a tax on us all.

755 realwest  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:48:45pm

re: #708 Palandine
I agree and quite frankly I'd like federal funds (my taxdollars) avoid religious schools, too.

756 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:48:45pm

re: #745 gop_patriot

So did my father in law! Well, he sold GE commercially.

He and my mil bought a GE refrigerator a couple of years ago and they've had the icemaker replaced 2 or three times, and the door handle, which runs from the top to the bottom of the fridge, fell off- he had to glue it back on. He said he'd never buy another GE product. It was really disappointing to him.

My wife and I met at Zenith when they were still an American company.
She once worked at Sears, and had to show the salesperson how to use a microFiche recently.

Sears is still a good company. Young clueless help, but they try.

757 Bubblehead II  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:48:49pm

re: #722 MandyManners

Night Mandy.

758 neocon hippie  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:48:55pm

Jennifer Rubin at Commentary had this to say about the Palin disinvite:

Biden’s Refusal to Appear At Iran Protest Caused the Disinvitation of Palin

Here’s the latest news on the withdrawal of the invitation to Sarah Palin (and all other politicians) to Monday’s protest of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad — withdrawn by the sponsor, the Council of Presidents of Major Jewish Organization. COMMENTARY has learned that Joe Biden was invited to the event in the wake of Hillary Clinton’s refusal to appear on the same stage as Palin — and he declined. In an e-mail to me, Biden spokesman David Wade said that “we’ve had longstanding commitment to speak at National Guard Convention on Monday in Maryland.”

After that, the decision was made to disinvite Palin — who is, let us recall, the chief executive of one of the 50 state of the union as well as the vice-presidential candidate of one of the two major parties in the United States. According to Ben Smith of Politico:

The appearance that the non-partisan group was aligning with the Republican ticket put the group and its president, Malcolm Hoenlein, under heavy pressure from Jewish Democrats, including members of the conference, members of Congress, and the liberal group J Street, not to give Palin a platform, sources said. Hoenlein told the McCain campaign that he would have to rescind Palin’s invitation or cancel the rally.

The question is: Was Hoenlein put in this position because of a decision by the Obama team and its supporters to treat Sarah Palin as though she were not a legitimate political figure with whom major Democratic politicians can or should share the stage.The McCain camp has issued a statement in the candidate’s name:

(see link: [Link: www.commentarymagazine.com...]

759 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:49:39pm

re: #749 Catttt

You may need to have the cable co recycle the router and assign you a new IP address.

No - when I did this, the router has an IP address (or something) - I had to do this when I set up my router and although I was completely confused by the whole process, eventuallyit worked LOL. We have 3 computers and I had to do it for each one.

760 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:49:59pm

re: #749 Catttt

You may need to have the cable co recycle the router and assign you a new IP address.

You need to call the cable company and tell them what the cable modem/router MAC address is.
Two minutes later, you're in business.

761 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:50:07pm

re: #746 realwest
We missed the small kefuffle. I always miss everything. We had a boastful sock puppet and then we got into the question of where missing socks go, then into good appliances vs bad and here we are. Laundry Hell.

762 Cartman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:50:18pm

re: #747 Catttt

She dated Marilyn Manson. He gets all the hot chicks.

That's another one of life's great mysteries, right there. IMO, the dude is butt-ugly.

763 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:50:46pm

re: #752 Catttt
Respectfully, of course...You're a nut!

764 Irene NYC  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:51:52pm

Speaking of George Soros...ahem...did anybody else catch that part on O'Reilly tonight with some rich Chicago doyenne by the name of Sugar (or Babs or something like that) who very happily (smile!) claimed to have introduced Obama to George Soros, and then went through the list of 3 other very rich Chicago females who are part of the Obama network?

How can so many wealthy Americans be so stupid?

765 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:52:02pm

re: #759 reine.de.tout

No - when I did this, the router has an IP address (or something) - I had to do this when I set up my router and although I was completely confused by the whole process, eventuallyit worked LOL. We have 3 computers and I had to do it for each one.

ets them

Lol. That was aimed at Nana.

Whenever I get new hardware, I have to call the cable co, recycle the modem, and then they do something from their end that allows them to see me, or whatever. Plus they can walk you through the process, usually. They have stats on the equipment and whatnot.

766 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:52:16pm

re: #762 Cartman

That's another one of life's great mysteries, right there. IMO, the dude is butt-ugly.

But hot.

767 mich-again  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:52:35pm

In the old days the banks ran out of cash when there was a panic. Now they have enough printing presses so that never happens.

768 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:52:58pm

re: #756 jwb7605
Kids have no clue what microfiche is. My service record is on microfiche and I have to go to the library to print anything from it!

769 Bobibutu  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:53:17pm

re: #719 realwest

Good evening O.R. - well I don't think Obama's gonna arm the gang bangers either, but read the line the way I did and tell me that you think it was a throw away line with no real meaning:
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. "
I'm a helluva long way from a John Bircher or a Chicken Little, but WTF could he have meant by that?
A civilian force to achieve national security objectives
just as powerful, as strong and as well funded as our military?!

"Warning - warning - danger - danger" Will and Robby circa 1965.

770 Cartman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:53:39pm

re: #766 Catttt

Well, whatever blows up your dress, as they say. ;)

771 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:53:49pm

re: #767 mich-again

In the old days the banks ran out of cash when there was a panic. Now they have enough printing presses so that never happens.

What comedian was it that said "Inflation is your friend. Soon, we can all be rich"? ... back in the Carter days.

772 realwest  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:54:23pm

re: #724 EIDE_Interface
Well sure, we all know that - I'm just wondering what the hell his speechwriter(s) were contemplating when they wrote that draft, showed it to Obama, then deleted it from the final draft and he said it anyway?
It means something and I think it HAS to mean more than we need more national service or librarians or teachers aides or some such.
It COULD be an off-the-cuff stupid remark that he like because of the way the rhythm of it sounded when he first tried it, but still.......

773 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:55:09pm

re: #765 Catttt

ets them

Lol. That was aimed at Nana.

Whenever I get new hardware, I have to call the cable co, recycle the modem, and then they do something from their end that allows them to see me, or whatever. Plus they can walk you through the process, usually. They have stats on the equipment and whatnot.

I probably could have done that (might have been easier!). But I had instructions to open a web browser, and the instructions included the IP address of the router, and once I typed in the IP address, I got connected.

774 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:55:14pm

re: #764 Irene NYC

Speaking of George Soros...ahem...did anybody else catch that part on O'Reilly tonight with some rich Chicago doyenne by the name of Sugar (or Babs or something like that) who very happily (smile!) claimed to have introduced Obama to George Soros, and then went through the list of 3 other very rich Chicago females who are part of the Obama network?

How can so many wealthy Americans be so stupid?

they take everything for granted,
including their freedom.

775 Cartman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:55:54pm

re: #771 jwb7605

It might have been Jimmah himself that said that. Wouldn't surprise me.

776 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:56:26pm

re: #719 realwest

Good evening O.R. - well I don't think Obama's gonna arm the gang bangers either, but read the line the way I did and tell me that you think it was a throw away line with no real meaning:
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. "
I'm a helluva long way from a John Bircher or a Chicken Little, but WTF could he have meant by that?
A civilian force to achieve national security objectives
just as powerful, as strong and as well funded as our military?!

I 'promised' to STFU, but I am weirded out by the logical progression of this stuff.
I will now continue to STFU where possible.

777 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:57:00pm

re: #772 realwest
It gave me chills the first time I heard it and it still bothers the hell out of me. I do not believe it was a misspeak. I really think in his pinhead sized mind he does think we need a force on par with the military to keep order in his vision for a socialist utopia.

778 Irene NYC  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:58:04pm

re: #774 nyc redneck

Yes, you're absolutely right.

779 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:58:12pm

I think we've found the next Jimmy Page!

780 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:58:48pm

re: #750 Cartman

I think that with some ISPs you have to supply them with the machine id of the new modem and/or router to get connectivity.

Do you speak English? ;)

NY Grampa thinks it makes some sense, but has a second problem. When he put the URL address in to get to the router login page, all he gets is a blank page.

Thanks! ♥ you, Cartman.

Don't tell, but NY Grampa typed the tech stuff...he is too lazy to sign in!

781 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:59:12pm

G'night folks. See y'all in the am. If you're lucky. Heh.

782 Irene NYC  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:59:27pm

re: #777 pingjockey

I took it as a payola full-employment program for all his supporters. Not that that makes it any more palatable.

783 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 8:59:57pm

Ack. I'm hanging out because I can't sleep.

I hate hate hate steroids.

On the other hand, I'm really fond of breathing.

I don't like cough syrup with lashings of codeine, either. I'm getting story ideas that really bother me. I'm picturing stuff I find disturbing in lurid color.

I want to get better, fast. This is just awful.

784 Thanos  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:00:10pm

Omigosh, I go up top to post some Andy Prieboy vids and this turns into the appliance repair thread. :)

I have to get some sleeps, but I will mention that the blower motor on my furnace makes a weird "rrnnncccshhh rrrrnnnncccshhh rrnnnnsch rnsh" noise just when it shuts down. See you on the morrow all.

Joe Pass - Summertime

785 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:00:54pm

re: #783 Dianna

{Dianna}
hope you're better soon.

786 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:01:18pm

re: #763 pingjockey

Respectfully, of course...You're a nut!

Everyone says that, but trust me - Marilyn is hot.

787 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:01:26pm

re: #775 Cartman

It might have been Jimmah himself that said that. Wouldn't surprise me.

It was some young comedian (young at the time). Not Jummah. Jimmah was the problem.
The same comedian also said (different election) something regarding a politician being called a Communist and what his reply would be:
"well, if being a communist means caring about people, and trying to make their life better, then I'm a communist"
... or something along those lines.
Mentally, I get the image of Dennis Kucinich when I remember the comedian.

788 realwest  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:01:35pm

re: #742 Occasional Reader
Well you certainly could be right, but as the Volokh
Conspiracy indicates, that line WAS in the original text of the speech (which Barry obviously read and for whatever reason it stuck in the back of his mind) and then deleted from the transcript of the speech.
So it's sorta curious - talking about AmeriCorp and Peace Corps and a Civilian National Security force as powerful etc. as the military so we don't have to expect the military to do everything.
I actually wonder how the hell it ever got into a draft of his speech in the first place; I mean who wrote it and what was he/she or they thinking?

789 Intrepid  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:02:02pm

re: #783 Dianna

Ack. I'm hanging out because I can't sleep.

I hate hate hate steroids.

On the other hand, I'm really fond of breathing.

I don't like cough syrup with lashings of codeine, either. I'm getting story ideas that really bother me. I'm picturing stuff I find disturbing in lurid color.

I want to get better, fast. This is just awful.

So tell me what you like about California! Details, too - I want details!

790 republic  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:02:14pm

re: #777 pingjockey

It gave me chills the first time I heard it and it still bothers the hell out of me. I do not believe it was a misspeak. I really think in his pinhead sized mind he does think we need a force on par with the military to keep order in his vision for a socialist utopia.

C'mon, that would be like saying that nearly all terrorist bombings around the world, near daily, are caused by Islamic terrorists!

/

791 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:02:22pm

re: #773 reine.de.tout

I probably could have done that (might have been easier!). But I had instructions to open a web browser, and the instructions included the IP address of the router, and once I typed in the IP address, I got connected.

I try the directions first, and if that doesn't work, I call the good old help desk.

792 Bobibutu  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:03:07pm

re: #783 Dianna

Ack. I'm hanging out because I can't sleep.

I hate hate hate steroids.

On the other hand, I'm really fond of breathing.

I don't like cough syrup with lashings of codeine, either. I'm getting story ideas that really bother me. I'm picturing stuff I find disturbing in lurid color.

I want to get better, fast. This is just awful.

Do you have a CPAP?

Have you had a sleep study?

793 Valkyrie1981  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:03:18pm

Obama is peeing her pants on how good she is... My bad, Obama bitches so much about Bush I think he is a woman.

794 Irene NYC  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:04:16pm

Is Peggy Noonan losing it?

This has got to be the most rambling of all her ramblings I've ever seen. And to top it off, I've never seen her ignorance showing this much before.

795 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:04:58pm

re: #730 Catttt

Cable co. router?

Aaaargh! Missed your post.

Not from the cable company...but the modem is, as the old one was acting very weird. The router is a NetGear router.

796 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:05:05pm

re: #780 NY Nana

Do you speak English? ;)

NY Grampa thinks it makes some sense, but has a second problem. When he put the URL address in to get to the router login page, all he gets is a blank page.

Thanks! ♥ you, Cartman.

Don't tell, but NY Grampa typed the tech stuff...he is too lazy to sign in!

Nana - I think what you have to type in is the actual IP address, not the URL.
like this:
[Link: 192.xxx.xx...] (the x's being numbers).
then hit enter.

797 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:05:11pm

re: #789 Intrepid

So tell me what you like about California! Details, too - I want details!

I love the weather; I adore the scenery. I love my house, and I like my job, my boss, and my friends.

I was born in Southern California, which I didn't like very much, too hot and dry. I moved up to SF in 1981, and I really loved it. I'm so sad about the way it's all falling apart.

798 Intrepid  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:05:11pm

Heh - "Republican" is making a comeback!

Politico article

799 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:05:34pm

re: #794 Irene NYC

Is Peggy Noonan losing it?

This has got to be the most rambling of all her ramblings I've ever seen. And to top it off, I've never seen her ignorance showing this much before.

I wrote her off when she let her PDS show.

800 jorline  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:05:55pm

re: #783 Dianna

Ack. I'm hanging out because I can't sleep.

I hate hate hate steroids.

On the other hand, I'm really fond of breathing.

I don't like cough syrup with lashings of codeine, either. I'm getting story ideas that really bother me. I'm picturing stuff I find disturbing in lurid color.

I want to get better, fast. This is just awful.

I started mega steroids today...30mg of prednisone...I'm wired for sound.

801 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:06:45pm

re: #783 Dianna

Ack. I'm hanging out because I can't sleep.

I hate hate hate steroids.

On the other hand, I'm really fond of breathing.

I don't like cough syrup with lashings of codeine, either. I'm getting story ideas that really bother me. I'm picturing stuff I find disturbing in lurid color.

I want to get better, fast. This is just awful.

OH, sorry to hear you're not well!
Steroids make me hyper, I can't sleep, my heart races and skips beats . . . but sometimes it's just what you have to do.

802 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:06:48pm

re: #793 Valkyrie1981

Obama is peeing her pants on how good she is... My bad, Obama bitches so much about Bush I think he is a woman.

OK.
I've been called a John Bircher (more or less) this evening,
which goes directly to conspiracy theories:

What do you think the odds are that Bush will declare himself President for Life?
Do you think he would replace Cheny with her?
I've been reading the supermarket mags that he and Laura are on the 'outs'.
/////

803 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:07:19pm

re: #758 neocon hippie

The question is: Was Hoenlein put in this position because of a decision by the Obama team and its supporters to treat Sarah Palin as though she were not a legitimate political figure with whom major Democratic politicians can or should share the stage

The answer to that question would be "yes".

Alinskyist "Fix And Destroy" Strateegery List for Sarah Palin

- Bad Mom Day 1, backfired
- Her family is fucked up Day 2, backfired
- She's a Nazi book-banner Day 3, sticks, see e-mail
- Creationist snake-handler Day 4, sticks, e-mails again
- Small-town hick Day 5, sticks, media is working with us on this one (easy)
- She's a whore and/or sleeping with McCain Day 6, no traction, too creepy to contemplate
- She's not a legitimate politicianWeek 2, this one sticks good, media helping out on all fronts, RUN WITH THIS!

804 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:07:26pm

re: #798 Intrepid

Heh - "Republican" is making a comeback!

Politico article

The portion of the public that strongly supports the Republican ticket has grown from 17 percent in August to 25 percent today. Over the same period, Republicans expressing “strong support” for McCain jumped 16 points. Independents expressing “strong support” for McCain rose 9 points. Meanwhile, Democratic “strong support” for Obama rose 7 points, while his backing from independents dropped one point.

That could hurt him later.....

805 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:07:30pm

re: #792 Bobibutu

Do you have a CPAP?

Have you had a sleep study?

No, this is bad bronchitis. I had a very severe spasm on Tuesday night. The medications are not my idea of fun. I've been through this before with pneumonia and another bad round with bronchitis a couple years ago.

I would love a sleep study. I have never slept well, and I'd love to know why.

806 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:07:32pm

re: #800 jorline

I started mega steroids today...30mg of prednisone...I'm wired for sound.

{jorline}

That's a big dose. Not sure you'll ever sleep again!

807 jorline  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:07:46pm

re: #792 Bobibutu

Do you have a CPAP?

Have you had a sleep study?

Great suggestion, Bobibutu. I love my CPAP...been on it for eight years.

808 Intrepid  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:07:55pm

re: #797 Dianna

I love the weather; I adore the scenery. I love my house, and I like my job, my boss, and my friends.

I was born in Southern California, which I didn't like very much, too hot and dry. I moved up to SF in 1981, and I really loved it. I'm so sad about the way it's all falling apart.

The big question is - Do you know the way to San Jose?

Blast from the past....

809 Russkilitlover  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:08:41pm

re: #789 Intrepid

So tell me what you like about California! Details, too - I want details!

re: #789 Intrepid

So tell me what you like about California! Details, too - I want details!

I'll give it a go.....700 miles of unbelievable, breathtaking, and ever-changing coastline to Redwood forests to low desert to mountain highs. From Joshua tree to the Sierra Nevada and Shasta Mountain. From San Diego to Eureka. From vineyards to agriculture that stretches for miles out of sight in all directions and feeds the world. From the 5th largest economy IN THE WORLD. From Death Valley to Mammoth Mountain to Lake Tahoe.

It's the most diverse, state, both environmentally, culturally, and socio-economically.

From IT to Biotech to Genomics, to homebuilding with the most innovative designs to finance, entertainment, agrigulture, leisure, and on and on and on.

Need some more?

810 Cartman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:08:41pm

re: #780 NY Nana

LOL. Hope you are well. When I replaced my modem last year, I just had to call Time Warner tech and read to them the machine address stamped on the bottom of the modem. They punched a few buttons, and if I remember correctly I had to ping them back so that they could confirm the addy, and voila...I was connected.

811 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:08:53pm

re: #771 jwb7605

What comedian was it that said "Inflation is your friend. Soon, we can all be rich"? ... back in the Carter days.

Dan Akyroyd as Jimmy Carter. I looked it up on google.

812 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:08:55pm

re: #796 reine.de.tout

Nana - I think what you have to type in is the actual IP address, not the URL.
like this:
[Link: 192.xxx.xx...] (the x's being numbers).
then hit enter.

whoops! that wasn't supposed to be a link.
like this, without the spaces:

h t t p: / / 1 9 2 . x x x . x x

813 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:09:18pm

re: #800 jorline

I started mega steroids today...30mg of prednisone...I'm wired for sound.

Ohhhh, I'm sorry.

I begged for as low a dose as they'd give me. But I'm jittering and tense.

814 republic  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:10:02pm

re: #793 Valkyrie1981

Obama is peeing her pants on how good she is... My bad, Obama bitches so much about Bush I think he is a woman.

The Democrats are so stupid in this regard, acting as if President Bush is running for President in 2008.

Most will be very surprised when they don't see Presidnet Bush and V.P. Cheney on the ballots come November.

President Bush's approval rating is over 3 times better than what the Democrat controlled (for two years now) Congress's is.

I thought that all of these Harvard elitists were supposed to be so smart.

815 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:10:49pm

re: #801 reine.de.tout

Yep, me too!

It's the story idea that's making me unhappy, though.

816 jorline  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:11:03pm

re: #806 reine.de.tout

{jorline}

That's a big dose. Not sure you'll ever sleep again!

{REINE}

I started my treatment for Rheumatoid Arthritis today...they're trying to get the pain and swelling out of my joints.

817 wee fury  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:11:34pm
818 ethanxxx  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:11:36pm

re: #769 Bobibutu

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. "

Something like... what? The Waffen SS? Holy S##T! This little prick is dangerous. Who's he going to give that job to? Malik Zulu Shabazz and his New Black Panther Circus? Throw in a few Nation of Islam Farrakann Youths? They already have the funny little black uniforms, and they are as brainless as the front row at the Academy of Awards. Guess I'll have to go buy that SKS with the banana clip I was looking at the other day... start hanging out with some Korean shop owners. They seem to understand how to protect their S##T from these kind's of animals.

819 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:11:40pm

re: #814 republic

The Democrats are so stupid in this regard, acting as if President Bush is running for President in 2008.

Most will be very surprised when they don't see Presidnet Bush and V.P. Cheney on the ballots come November.

President Bush's approval rating is over 3 times better than what the Democrat controlled (for two years now) Congress's is.

I thought that all of these Harvard elitists were supposed to be so smart.

BDS is real strong in these people. I work with enough too many of them.

820 Russkilitlover  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:11:58pm

re: #783 Dianna

Take a look at ResMed in San Diego, they specialize in sleeping disorders related to breathing.

821 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:11:59pm

re: #811 Catttt

Dan Akyroyd as Jimmy Carter. I looked it up on google.

Not according to my impeccable memory, but I won't dispute it.

822 Shug  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:13:03pm

re: #811 Catttt

Dan Akyroyd as Jimmy Carter. I looked it up on google.

I remember that too. Akroyd did an OK jimmuh. not great

823 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:13:28pm

re: #816 jorline

{REINE}

I started my treatment for Rheumatoid Arthritis today...they're trying to get the pain and swelling out of my joints.

So it's definitely RA? I'm sure that big of a dose will work.

I do yoga regularly. Everytime I'm on steroids, I'm the very best in class, nothing is hard to do and I have tons of strength! Then, off the steroids and reality sets in LOL.

824 jorline  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:13:36pm

re: #813 Dianna

Ohhhh, I'm sorry.

I begged for as low a dose as they'd give me. But I'm jittering and tense.

They have me on 30mg for the first three days, 20mg for three more days and 10mg from then on.

825 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:13:39pm

re: #773 reine.de.tout

I am to lazy to log in. When I got the new modem and could not connect, I called the cable company. One of their techs had me try a number of things and finally had me wire the modem directly to the computer. He said I would have to call NetGear to get them to reset the router or do something to get the router compatible with the new modem.
NY Grampa.

826 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:13:50pm

re: #820 Russkilitlover

I think these are separate issues. Currently, I'm sick.

My insomnia doesn't have a thing to do with breathing - I'm nervous.

827 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:14:16pm

re: #795 NY Nana

Aaaargh! Missed your post.

Not from the cable company...but the modem is, as the old one was acting very weird. The router is a NetGear router.

From "acting very weird," I get that you are personalizing your hardware in an anthropomorphic fashion. Therefore, call the cable company. :D BUT - have something to do while you are on hold.

828 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:14:27pm

re: #825 NY Nana

I am to lazy to log in. When I got the new modem and could not connect, I called the cable company. One of their techs had me try a number of things and finally had me wire the modem directly to the computer. He said I would have to call NetGear to get them to reset the router or do something to get the router compatible with the new modem.
NY Grampa.

LOL! Well you know, that will work, too!

829 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:14:44pm

re: #821 jwb7605

Not according to my impeccable memory, but I won't dispute it.

I don't remember - I just found it on google. I tried to find a clip but no dice.

830 Racer X  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:14:57pm

re: #809 Russkilitlover

I'll give it a go.....700 miles of unbelievable, breathtaking, and ever-changing coastline to Redwood forests to low desert to mountain highs. From Joshua tree to the Sierra Nevada and Shasta Mountain. From San Diego to Eureka. From vineyards to agriculture that stretches for miles out of sight in all directions and feeds the world. From the 5th largest economy IN THE WORLD. From Death Valley to Mammoth Mountain to Lake Tahoe.

It's the most diverse, state, both environmentally, culturally, and socio-economically.

From IT to Biotech to Genomics, to homebuilding with the most innovative designs to finance, entertainment, agrigulture, leisure, and on and on and on.

Need some more?

Shhh!

Not so loud! Someone might hear you.

And move here

831 Bobibutu  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:15:19pm

re: #805 Dianna

No, this is bad bronchitis. I had a very severe spasm on Tuesday night. The medications are not my idea of fun. I've been through this before with pneumonia and another bad round with bronchitis a couple years ago.

I would love a sleep study. I have never slept well, and I'd love to know why.

A place to start.

[Link: www.sleepsolutions.com...]

I did the gig 4 years ago - tired - irritable, etc. My ins paid for the study and the CPAP machine. I was in the east bay so don't know what SF does. Pound on your primary MD to have him/her order it for you.

832 Russkilitlover  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:15:23pm

re: #826 Dianna

I think these are separate issues. Currently, I'm sick.

My insomnia doesn't have a thing to do with breathing - I'm nervous.

Well, take a look anyway. It may be eye-opening. Are you an asthma sufferer?

833 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:15:43pm

re: #817 wee fury

North to Alaska

THANKS FOR THAT!

834 Shug  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:15:50pm

Hadron Collider debut was a bust

Before the problem occurred, scientists had said it would probably be several weeks before the first significant collisions were attempted

Just let the protons send text messages

835 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:15:51pm

re: #826 Dianna

I think these are separate issues. Currently, I'm sick.

My insomnia doesn't have a thing to do with breathing - I'm nervous.

When you're better -
YOGA 3 times a week.
Part of it is you learn to breathe for relaxation. It has helped me through many a dental procedure and many a night when thoughts would just keep rushing around in my head.

836 SpartanWoman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:16:03pm

re: #758 neocon hippie

No pols= no media, no media=no attendance, no attendance=no point.

Iran wins one.

Last year people went to hear the speeches, not just to hold signs, and about half those there were not jews. The most organized groups were Christian and there were plenty of partisans including Curtis Sliwa who had the crowd cheering, but never used the words "democrat" and "republican" . Surely Clinton could have managed that.

837 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:16:06pm

re: #828 reine.de.tout

LOL! Well you know, that will work, too!

Hmmmm. The cable company should be able to walk you through that. The tech was probably on crack.

838 jorline  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:16:22pm

re: #823 reine.de.tout

So it's definitely RA? I'm sure that big of a dose will work.

I do yoga regularly. Everytime I'm on steroids, I'm the very best in class, nothing is hard to do and I have tons of strength! Then, off the steroids and reality sets in LOL.

Reality's a pain in the butt. I'm afraid I'll start growing hair on my feet and hands...hopefully it grows on the top of my head...LOL

839 Intrepid  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:16:26pm

re: #809 Russkilitlover

I'll give it a go.....700 miles of unbelievable, breathtaking, and ever-changing coastline to Redwood forests to low desert to mountain highs. From Joshua tree to the Sierra Nevada and Shasta Mountain. From San Diego to Eureka. From vineyards to agriculture that stretches for miles out of sight in all directions and feeds the world. From the 5th largest economy IN THE WORLD. From Death Valley to Mammoth Mountain to Lake Tahoe.

It's the most diverse, state, both environmentally, culturally, and socio-economically.

From IT to Biotech to Genomics, to homebuilding with the most innovative designs to finance, entertainment, agrigulture, leisure, and on and on and on.

Need some more?

No sir - California is truly a great state, the most diverse state in the union. I'd like to take a big road trip from San Diego up to the very tippy top, spending at least a month doing so.

I'd like to walk into a big tree, and I'd like to see Yosemite. I'd like to drive all the way along the Pacific Highway, from the south to the north.

I'd like to spend a week observing the very people Zombie captures in his/her pictures. And I'd like to go inland and see the lives of the folks who aren't shown in video. Every day, normal, Californians.

That's from a southerner who has been in several countries, but hasn't seen much of California.

840 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:16:41pm

re: #831 Bobibutu

Thanks, I'll look into it.

841 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:17:02pm

re: #814 republic

The Democrats are so stupid in this regard, acting as if President Bush is running for President in 2008.

Most will be very surprised when they don't see Presidnet Bush and V.P. Cheney on the ballots come November.

President Bush's approval rating is over 3 times better than what the Democrat controlled (for two years now) Congress's is.

I thought that all of these Harvard elitists were supposed to be so smart.

They switch between running against Bush and running against Palin.

842 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:17:19pm

re: #837 Catttt

Hmmmm. The cable company should be able to walk you through that. The tech was probably on crack.

dad gum it - intended for Nana again.

843 itellu3times  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:17:24pm

re: #783 Dianna

Feel better, D! Inhale a little more LGF, get it deep in your lungs!

844 Killian Bundy  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:17:28pm

re: #754 itellu3times

It would take an incredible amount of money to purposely attack any one of these companies, much less the lot of them.

Why? Remember, you're selling them short, naked. You don't need any capital or shares up front. All you need is the capital to collect on the aftermath. Think about it, they weren't done all at once, rather in succession. Something's screwy or the Government wouldn't be considering outright banning short selling tomorrow.

/these banks (Lehman, etc.) were irrationally driven down to almost zero, where were the buyers, think about it?

845 Russkilitlover  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:17:37pm

re: #830 Racer X

Shhh!

Not so loud! Someone might hear you.

And move here

Well, I'd rather have American emigrants than illegal immigrants! Please come! Real estate could not be better priced in CA than right now!

846 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:17:45pm

re: #838 jorline

Reality's a pain in the butt. I'm afraid I'll start growing hair on my feet and hands...hopefully it grows on the top of my head...LOL

Ha! You and the Roi, both.

847 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:17:52pm

re: #832 Russkilitlover

Well, take a look anyway. It may be eye-opening. Are you an asthma sufferer?

No, but I do have severe allergies. I've actually had to use inhalers for that, and for stress.

848 Bobibutu  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:18:20pm

re: #813 Dianna

Ohhhh, I'm sorry.

I begged for as low a dose as they'd give me. But I'm jittering and tense.

Get some "calms - forte" at your local drug store - good stuff.

849 alien_mind  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:18:34pm

re: #764 Irene NYC

Penny Pritzker - the money lady

850 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:18:40pm

re: #835 reine.de.tout

When you're better -
YOGA 3 times a week.
Part of it is you learn to breathe for relaxation. It has helped me through many a dental procedure and many a night when thoughts would just keep rushing around in my head.

I do martial arts. We work on breathing, too.

851 realwest  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:18:54pm

re: #754 itellu3times
Good evening - I've been sorta wondering all week about the economy and how it seems to have had the wheels fall off at the same time.
I honestly DON'T think it's any sort of conspiracy. Look at Fannie and Freddie - thanks to the Community Redevelopment Act passed by Carter and "reinvigorated" by Clinton, lots and LOTS of poor credit risks were encouraged (and a lot of the encouragement came from the mortgage brokers) to sue lenders who wouldn't give them a mortgage, some "enterprising" youngish brokers thought geez, ya know if you apply some rigorous forms rules (as to documents) ya could either sell 'em by the bushelful to Fannie/Freddie OR bundle them up in pools, and issue bonds GUARANTEED by those pools of mortgage loans - that way you can sell those bonds at a lower rate of return(because they are, after all, guaranteed by the mortgage pools) and make a killing on the spread. And hey, while we're at it, lets get AIG to insure those bonds based on those mortgage pools.
And so it came to pass for nigh on a decade that this crap went on - folks who really didn't understand homeownership (whaddya mean I gotta pay for the heat, the roof - the plumbing!) coupled with tons of lender's violating what USED to be FDIC rules in the aftermath of the S&L Scandals of the early 90's about lenders giving out home equity lines of credit second mortgages on property the simulataneously made first, purchase money mortgages on, but which rules were "relaxed" as long as home values were inflated and sooner or later, all the dominoes would fall - the homeowners, the lenders, the bond issuers and the insurers (primarily AIG but not exculsively) - and go BOOM!
As pissed off as I am about the investment bankers, mortgage brokers and all, and as much damage has been done to retirement funds and IRA's, think about this: the weaker dollar REALLY screws over the Chinese and the United Arab Emirates and other middle eastern investors who invested a buck and will now, if they are lucky, will get repaid at something siginifcantly less than a buck.

852 republic  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:19:09pm

Joe(Stand up Chuck)Biden,

"Paying higher taxes is "Patriotism"

Boy, that's going to get people fired up.

Joe Biden, the gift that keeps on giving.

Nancy Pelosi,

"Democrats have absolutely no responsability in the current financial crisis."

The Congressional record clearly shows the Democrats to be the leading, major reason for this current financial crisis.

Nancy Pelosi, the gift that keeps on giving.

These people, seriously, are on a political suicide mission.

I love it!

853 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:19:09pm

re: #850 Dianna

I do martial arts. We work on breathing, too.

Oh, yes, that will work too.

854 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:20:35pm

re: #810 Cartman

We can connect, but not if we are using the router which connects between the modem and the computer. Even tho this computer is hard wired through the router, it does not connect to the internet through the router. Therefore, no router, and no second computer (no wireless connection).

855 Catttt  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:20:39pm

re: #852 republic

Joe(Stand up Chuck)Biden,

"Paying higher taxes is "Patriotism"

Boy, that's going to get people fired up.

Joe Biden, the gift that keeps on giving.

Nancy Pelosi,

"Democrats have absolutely no responsability in the current financial crisis."

The Congressional record clearly shows the Democrats to be the leading, major reason for this current financial crisis.

Nancy Pelosi, the gift that keeps on giving.

These people, seriously, are on a political suicide mission.

I love it!

Nancy Pelosi looks like the Joker on a bad day. And now that I've insulted the Speaker of the House, I'm hitting the hay. 'Night.

856 Dianna  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:21:07pm

re: #853 reine.de.tout

I love it. I'm missing it horribly right now.

857 jorline  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:21:24pm

re: #835 reine.de.tout

When you're better -
YOGA 3 times a week.
Part of it is you learn to breathe for relaxation. It has helped me through many a dental procedure and many a night when thoughts would just keep rushing around in my head.

I was on an RA blog today and a lot of people there take yoga for that reason. I'm kind of leaning toward a second baseball career...forget Barry Bonds, just give me the bat.

858 realwest  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:21:26pm

re: #761 pingjockey
ROTL! Yeah, I've noticed. But it looks like things may heat up over on the economy burner now!

859 Russkilitlover  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:21:26pm

re: #839 Intrepid

Come for the environment, stay for the pure beauty and try to get passed the f'd-up politics and onerous regulations! LOL! You are so right - a detailed drive from San Diego along the coast to Eureka will take a good month! And a strong constitution to handle some of the coastal roads, like through Big Sur, and from San Francisco to Ft. Bragg. Truly hair-raising and utterly breathtaking!

860 itellu3times  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:21:26pm

re: #844 Killian Bundy

Why? Remember, you're selling them short, naked. You don't need any capital or shares up front. All you need is the capital to collect on the aftermath. Think about it, they weren't done all at once, rather in succession. Something's screwy or the Government wouldn't be considering outright banning short selling tomorrow.

/these banks (Lehman, etc.) were irrationally driven down to almost zero, where were the buyers, think about it?

I will assume (harumph!) that the broker/dealer must have the cash on hand to cover the shorts. It would take balls of steel to defraud the system and the SEC on that.

861 Racer X  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:21:54pm

re: #834 Shug

Hadron Collider debut was a bust

Just let the protons send text messages

Man, we came this close to getting sucked by a black hole into oblivion!

862 lostlakehiker  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:21:55pm

re: #205 nyc redneck

Palin isn't against creationist beliefs. She's against using the power of the State to put those beliefs into science courses. There's just no scientific case at all for creationism. The State wants children educated, but religious education is not the work of the State. The government can stick to teaching English, math, history, and scientific science, and butt out of teaching religion.

Isn't this a good clean conservative position on the subject? And what does Sarah have to do, to establish the sincerity of her faith? Isn't her willingness to carry Trig to term proof enough?

863 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:23:02pm

re: #829 Catttt

I don't remember - I just found it on google. I tried to find a clip but no dice.

I remember the 'face', but not the name (common malady for me).
It will come back when you're not here to view the reply, of course.

He used to be on Rowan and Martin.
Whoever "he" was.
Short guy. I think his first name was Martin -- not the "Martin" from Rowan and Martin.

Martin Short, maybe?
YES!
I think that's it!

Thanks for the help!

864 Bubblehead II  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:23:16pm

re: #817 wee fury

Whispering Pines

865 republic  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:23:22pm

re: #844 Killian Bundy

Why? Remember, you're selling them short, naked. You don't need any capital or shares up front. All you need is the capital to collect on the aftermath. Think about it, they weren't done all at once, rather in succession. Something's screwy or the Government wouldn't be considering outright banning short selling tomorrow.

/these banks (Lehman, etc.) were irrationally driven down to almost zero, where were the buyers, think about it?

And, I also believe that Obama has surrounded himself with at least three "big wheels" from these various failed companies to help him with his campaign.

ROTFL!

866 Sylvester_T_Cat  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:23:28pm

re: #572 jwb7605

I'll drop it, but that was actually a campaign suggestion from Obama.
Scared the snot out of me, but I didn't think much of it at the time.

Was John Birch into logical progression?

I gather he was capable of logical thinking when given a clue. A story you won't come across in the John Birch Society literature (if they're still around?)--

"The" John Birch was given an OSS 2nd Lieutenant commission (US Army) in WWII basically because he'd been a missionary in China, and as you'll recall, the Allies were very involved in fighting the Japanese there.

As fate would have it, one day 2nd Lt Birch wandered into a US Army quonset hut in Middle of Nowhere, northern Burma and saw that there were a number of army officers playing --God forbid-- poker! Gambling no less, actual money on the table, and heaven forbid, can that be liquor in those bottles?

Lt. Birch raced over to the table, turned it over, and started in on saving the gamblers' souls with his best Hellfire and Damnation sermon. Sadly he was interrupted by an uncouth army captain, who punched Birch's lights out without waiting for the Amen.

Birch sorta vanished into history at that point, bearing with him the logical lesson that thou shalt not interrupt the captain's poker games. Especially when the captain is winning and has just filled a straight flush. (Whatever the Chinese commies whacked Birch for, it wasn't for rudely interrupting games of chance, I'm sure.)

The captain went on to meet another lieutenant, a tall blonde nurse anesthetist at the new field hospital up the road a ways.

Captain A, USAAF, and Captain M, USANC, married after the war and went on to have two sons, my brother and I. And yes, Dad still snuck out of the house occasionally for a poker game somewhere, even with Mom not entirely approving. Time's caught up with both of them, sadly, but they're still together in a nice veterans' cemetery, adjoining plots.

867 realwest  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:23:30pm

re: #769 Bobibutu
"Will and Robby circa 1965."
Uh, what?

868 Cartman  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:23:43pm

re: #854 NY Nana

Sorry, I misunderstood. The router is the issue. Yes, I seem to recall there's something you have to do to sync the router up with the modem. Sorry, I'm not much help!

869 Russkilitlover  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:24:02pm

re: #847 Dianna

ResMed, I'm telling you....they are at the forefront. No, I don't work for them, but am very impressed.

870 Bobibutu  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:24:24pm

re: #839 Intrepid

No sir - California is truly a great state, the most diverse state in the union. I'd like to take a big road trip from San Diego up to the very tippy top, spending at least a month doing so.

I'd like to walk into a big tree, and I'd like to see Yosemite. I'd like to drive all the way along the Pacific Highway, from the south to the north.

I'd like to spend a week observing the very people Zombie captures in his/her pictures. And I'd like to go inland and see the lives of the folks who aren't shown in video. Every day, normal, Californians.

That's from a southerner who has been in several countries, but hasn't seen much of California.

[Link: www.yosemite.org...]

Gotta book 2 years or so in advance and you will have an experience that is world class - it don't get no better unless ya do it in Alaska.

871 Irene NYC  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:24:34pm

re: #839 Intrepid

What you wouldn't want to do in California, however, is open a business. Every time I stepped in the SecState's office for my corp. or paid insurance for my workers ended up emptying my bank account.

872 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:25:06pm

re: #857 jorline

I was on an RA blog today and a lot of people there take yoga for that reason. I'm kind of leaning toward a second baseball career...forget Barry Bonds, just give me the bat.

I have osteoarthritis in my spine - the yoga has significantly reduced the pain (probably because it has reduced pressure on nerves). But it took several weeks, and actually, it was about 2 months before I was comfortable with it. Now, I can't imagine life without it (been at it for about 6 years now).

873 jwb7605  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:25:32pm

re: #835 reine.de.tout

When you're better -
YOGA 3 times a week.
Part of it is you learn to breathe for relaxation. It has helped me through many a dental procedure and many a night when thoughts would just keep rushing around in my head.

Works good for "heart problems", too.
Also for "surgery issues".
Pick the right type.
I highly recommend it myself.

874 republic  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:25:34pm

re: #855 Catttt

Nancy Pelosi looks like the Joker on a bad day. And now that I've insulted the Speaker of the House, I'm hitting the hay. 'Night.

'Night Catttt.

875 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:25:39pm

re: #856 Dianna

I love it. I'm missing it horribly right now.

Yes, when your body is accustomed to activity, lack of it is really missed.

876 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:25:52pm

re: #868 Cartman

You were a help, and if I say so, you can't contradict me, because I am a Nana!

877 Irene NYC  Thu, Sep 18, 2008 9:26:02pm