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New McCain Ad: 'Advice'

Politics | Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:41:31 am PDT

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UPDATE at 9/19/08 9:35:22 am:

Obama spokesman Bill Burton is calling John McCain a liar.

Burton said Obama only met Raines once briefly at an event, and that Raines sought an introductory meeting with Obama Senate aide Mike Strautmanis. At that meeting, Burton said no advice was sought from or given by Raines, who also had served as President Clinton’s budget director.

“This is another flat-out lie from a dishonorable campaign that is increasingly incapable of telling the truth,” Burton said. “Frank Raines has never advised Senator Obama about anything—ever.”

Please note, from the Washington Post, July 16, 2008: On the Outside Now, Watching Fannie Falter.

In the four years since he stepped down as Fannie Mae’s chief executive under the shadow of a $6.3 billion accounting scandal, Franklin D. Raines has been quietly constructing a new life for himself. He has shaved eight points off his golf handicap, taken a corner office in Steve Case’s D.C. conglomeration of finance, entertainment and health-care companies and more recently, taken calls from Barack Obama’s presidential campaign seeking his advice on mortgage and housing policy matters.

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1 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:42:28am

Love this ad. email it to everyone.

2 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:42:43am

I need advice

3 JacksonTn  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:43:08am

How appropriate while I am watching Obama speak on the economic crisis right now. Keep them coming John. Show specifics what bills you tried to pass. What bills Obama did not support.

4 Vergeltung  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:43:22am

yeah, this needs WIDE distribution.

5 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:43:38am

I can't watch it at work, so what's the gist of it?

6 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:43:51am

0bama's already calling McCain a liar on this:

Obama's campaign says Raines is not an Obama adviser and that McCain's campaign knows it because Raines said so in an e-mail earlier this week to Carly Fiorina, a top McCain adviser. Obama's campaign provided The Associated Press with a copy of the e-mail.

"Carly: Is this true?" Raines asks above a forwarded note informing him that Fiorina was on television saying he was an Obama housing adviser. "I am not an adviser to the Obama campaign. Frank."

Obama's campaign says Fiorina did not respond.

McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said he was not aware of the e-mail to Fiorina, but noted that the Post reported on three occasions, between July 16 and Aug. 28, that Raines was advising Obama.

"If he was not advising, obviously someone somewhere along the way should have corrected the record," Rogers said.

7 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:44:04am
8 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:44:22am

The ad will be denounced as "racist" because it show a black man in a scary context in 5, 4, 3...

9 shibumi  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:44:27am

Personally, I like the 'confused' shots of Teleprompter Marxist Jesus at the beginning of this ad. They seem to be saying 'huh?' Or possibly 'uh...?'

10 Lively  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:44:51am

I like the way his head is tilted in the first picture.

11 BIG  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:45:21am

McCain needs to keep up the pressure on Obama. I doubt the truth can convince those that worship Obama, but the middle will elect the next President and they are not going to vote for an empty suit.

12 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:45:38am

Is it just me, or does anybody else think that they will scream racism?

13 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:45:45am

re: #5 Ward Cleaver

I can't watch it at work, so what's the gist of it?

Obama's closest financial "advisers" are the same people that have been in charge of fannie mae/ freddie mac cooking the books for a decade +

14 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:46:07am

re: #6 Sharmuta

0bama's already calling McCain a liar on this:

Just the fact that prominent Dems like Raines and Gorelick made millions while running Fannie Mae into the ground is damning enough.

15 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:46:24am

re: #8 Occasional Reader

The ad will be denounced as "racist" because it show a black man in a scary context in 5, 4, 3...

You beat me to it.

16 Aviator  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:46:37am

re: #12 opnion

Is it just me, or does anybody else think that they will scream racism?

Already did.

17 Semper Gumbi  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:47:08am

re: #8 Occasional Reader

The ad will be denounced as "racist" because it show a black man in a scary context in 5, 4, 3...

You're way behind the curve. That was stated last night, in Time, I believe.

18 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:47:09am

re: #11 BIG

McCain needs to keep up the pressure on Obama. I doubt the truth can convince those that worship Obama, but the middle will elect the next President and they are not going to vote for an empty suit.

Yes, that's right. The Obamatons are locked in; independents and undecideds are the battleground.

19 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:47:31am

re: #14 Ward Cleaver

Just the fact that prominent Dems like Raines and Gorelick made millions while running Fannie Mae into the ground is damning enough.

I call phony outrage. It wasn't a problem for others to call Raines an advisor until it could be used against 0bama.

20 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:47:59am
"They think the economy is fundamentally strong. We know they're fundamentally wrong," Obama's ad says.

America, you suck! Vote for us!

-New Obama ad

21 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:48:35am

Under the bus, Frank!

/ow (front tires)

/ow (rear tires)

22 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:48:45am

When it Raines, it poors.

/taxpayers, that is

23 Semper Gumbi  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:48:51am

re: #17 Semper Gumbi

You're way behind the curve. That was stated last night, in Time, I believe.

Oops, forgot the link Linky

24 shibumi  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:48:59am

re: #12 opnion

Is it just me, or does anybody else think that they will scream racism?

Isn't every ad John McCain runs called racist?

To me, Obama just looks confused and clueless. Raines is nowhere near as scary as Rev. Wright, but I suppose I'm racist for bringing that up.

25 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:49:14am

re: #22 pre-Boomer Marine brat

0bama's just seething in the Raines.

26 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:50:17am

Okay, here's why the ad is racist:

It shows a black man in a scary context.

Then it shows Fannie Mae HQ, which looks kind of like a southern plantation.

Then it shows a white woman (representing "taxpayers").

CLEARLY this ad is meant to play on the primordial fears of white people that black male slaves would rape white women.

So... do I get my "Air America" time slot now?

27 Charles  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:50:45am

Washington Post, July 16, 2008: On the Outside Now, Watching Fannie Falter.

In the four years since he stepped down as Fannie Mae's chief executive under the shadow of a $6.3 billion accounting scandal, Franklin D. Raines has been quietly constructing a new life for himself. He has shaved eight points off his golf handicap, taken a corner office in Steve Case's D.C. conglomeration of finance, entertainment and health-care companies and more recently, taken calls from Barack Obama's presidential campaign seeking his advice on mortgage and housing policy matters.

28 pegcity  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:51:16am

Obama is actually wrong on every issue, if this man were president i would expect America to actually be sucked into a black hole

29 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:51:17am

re: #27 Charles

Washington Post, July 16, 2008:

Like the saying goes, "brevity is... wit".

30 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:51:51am

Thats not the Frank Raines I knew.

31 Charles  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:51:57am

That link again - Washington Post, July 16, 2008: On the Outside Now, Watching Fannie Falter.

In the four years since he stepped down as Fannie Mae's chief executive under the shadow of a $6.3 billion accounting scandal, Franklin D. Raines has been quietly constructing a new life for himself. He has shaved eight points off his golf handicap, taken a corner office in Steve Case's D.C. conglomeration of finance, entertainment and health-care companies and more recently, taken calls from Barack Obama's presidential campaign seeking his advice on mortgage and housing policy matters.

32 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:52:06am

re: #25 Sharmuta

0bama's just seething in the Raines.

Poor little me, he's saying, I'm going to be denied the Raines of power!

33 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:52:11am
34 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:52:44am

I like the opening shots of Obama doing his "head cocked" thing. First one way, then the other.

35 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:52:54am

re: #31 Charles

Obama lies to cover up lies, and then lies to cover up the lies about the lies.

36 rorschach  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:53:11am

Raines should fry.

37 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:53:17am
38 simonml  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:53:20am

If its true and straight to the point, why will the media label it a "smear?"

39 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:53:20am

Ad idea "The Bus" Image of a CSI type investigator waving a flashlight into a dark misty space, going intan old bus and lifting up a floorboard.

Everytime anyone questions Barack Obama about his past positions or associations he disavows any connection or dispareges the people he has been with. This is not recognizing a mistake and growing, it is denying and covering up. Look at the list of people he has thrown under the bus.
William Ayers, said he was just a neighbor when they worked closely and Obama started his first campaign in Ayers living room.
Howard Raines - Said he has no connection to the campaign when he served as an advisor and on the Vice President selection team.
His own grandmother, dismissed as a "typical white person."
Reverand Wright, rejected after spending 20 years approving of every sermon.
Add several more brief images and names.

40 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:53:25am

re: #27 Charles

"This is another flat-out lie from a dishonorable campaign that is increasingly incapable of telling the truth," Burton said. "Frank Raines has never advised Senator Obama about anything—ever."

I wonder if the Post will defend their source.

41 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:53:44am
42 MarineMomSue  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:53:51am

re: #29 Occasional Reader

Like the saying goes, "brevity is... wit".

...brevity is wit: Biden is witless

43 jetprop  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:53:55am

re: #3 JacksonTn

How appropriate while I am watching Obama speak on the economic crisis right now. Keep them coming John. Show specifics what bills you tried to pass. What bills Obama did not support.

I'm watching, too and I'm trying to follow what he's saying, but he lost me a few uhhs ago.

44 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:54:01am

I'm sure the Left will scream racism, meanwhile this is considered art and entertainment

In fact, the play wears its politically VERY correct heart on its sleeve with its indictment of America as "A Man’s World, It’s a White Man’s World, It’s a F–ked Up White Man’s Racist World" and can only be suggested to be racist in its content if one is hell-bent on protecting White Folk for Sandra’s blistering indictment.When Sandra warns Sarah Palin not to come into Manhattan lest she get gang-raped by some of Sandra’s big black brothers, she’s being provocative, combative, humorous, and yes, let’s allow, disgusting.

The fact that the show has a few riffs like this does not — to my mind — make it a "disgusting show." there’s too much beauty, variety, vitality, and intelligence to label the entire show as "disgusting." I’ll agree with you that we produced this show because we did find it to be edgy — because we wanted to give right wing conservative Jews a good run for their money by being on the receiving end of some blistering indictments from Sandra.Does it go over the edge sometimes? On the gang-rape joke, yes. Sure. Not much else. It goes over the edge and then comes right back to the cutting edge. [Profanity editing is mine

And here is a nice little quote from the show:

Now you got Uncle Women, like Sarah Palin, who jumps on the s--t and points her fingers at other women. Turncoat b---h! Don’t you f--kin’ reference Old Testament, bitch! You stay with your new Goyish crappy shiksa funky bulls--t! Don’t you touch my Old Testament, you b---h! Because we have left it open for interpre-ta-tion! It is no longer taken literally! You whore in your f--kin' cheap New Vision cheap-ass plastic glasses and your [sneering voice] hair up. A Tina Fey-Megan Mullally brokedown bulls--t moment.

45 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:54:03am

re: #6 Sharmuta

0bama's already calling McCain a liar on this:

Has there been one - just one! - ad by the McCain campaing where the B0 people have not cried 'lies, lies!' ?
And then, a day or two later, have been made to retract, eat their words, 'readjust' their statement?

46 shibumi  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:54:04am

re: #26 Occasional Reader

Okay, here's why the ad is racist:

It shows a black man in a scary context.

Then it shows Fannie Mae HQ, which looks kind of like a southern plantation.

Then it shows a white woman (representing "taxpayers").

CLEARLY this ad is meant to play on the primordial fears of white people that black male slaves would rape white women.

So... do I get my "Air America" time slot now?

You need an appointment with Dr. Rove stat!

47 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:54:10am

re: #34 wrenchwench

I like the opening shots of Obama doing his "head cocked" thing. First one way, then the other.

Cocked head = he's earnest!

Furrowed brow = he's really, really listening to us!

Rolled-up sleeves/loosened tie = he's ready to get down to work!

48 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:54:29am

These Obama people are sooooo damn infuriating.
The other night on the train a guy was talking a bout a book that he is reading. He pulls it out & wouldn't ya know, It's Corsi's "Obamination"
There was a moonbat eruption. Some serious shreiking. It was suggested in a rather crude way by an open mided progressive that he had no right to read it.
I chimed in the guy can read anything that he wants to.
The rejoinder was ,'Not a pack of lies like that"
I pointed out that in Obamas bio he claims that his parents met would he would have been four years old.. Useless

49 realwest  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:54:33am

re: #27 Charles
Excellent Charles!
Oh and good morning to you!

50 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:54:59am

re: #36 rorschach

What he did would be subject to the death penalty only in someplace like China. Good grief.

51 NYexpat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:55:16am

re: #6 Sharmuta

Can you define "is" for me?
Just another democrat.

52 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:55:45am

WHAT the hell is he saying?

53 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:55:48am

re: #45 yma o hyd

Has there been one - just one! - ad by the McCain campaing where the B0 people have not cried 'lies, lies!' ?
And then, a day or two later, have been made to retract, eat their words, 'readjust' their statement?

Nope. Facts are a bitch aren't they, Obamatons?

54 pegcity  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:55:53am

re: #48 opnion

The left want to turn America into a totalitarian state where one can only read preapproved reading material.

55 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:56:10am

re: #26 Occasional Reader

Okay, here's why the ad is racist:

It shows a black man in a scary context.

Then it shows Fannie Mae HQ, which looks kind of like a southern plantation.

Then it shows a white woman (representing "taxpayers").

CLEARLY this ad is meant to play on the primordial fears of white people that black male slaves would rape white women.

So... do I get my "Air America" time slot now?

Sounds like a commercial for Mandingo.

/definitely racist

56 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:56:14am

McCain has a new ad up
See #37

LOL

57 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:56:20am

re: #38 simonml

If its true and straight to the point, why will the media label it a "smear?"

Think 'Swift Boating'......telling the truth about the left is a 'smear'......especially if you use their own words in context.

58 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:56:35am

re: #44 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

And here is a nice little quote from the show:

A new triumph in American political discourse!

The Left has every right to be proud!

59 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:56:48am

re: #56 Typicalwhitey

That's not a link, Hon. That a bold.

60 jetprop  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:56:53am

re: #52 Typicalwhitey

WHAT the hell is he saying?

He's rambling on and on...

61 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:56:59am

re: #51 NYexpat

Can you define "is" for me?
Just another democrat.

Is (v): Present-tense form of the verb "to be", singular, thrid person.

/ :-)

62 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:57:04am

Wikipedia is spinning furiously to revise it's entry on Raines. When I checked a few days ago it clearly said Raines was involved in Obama's campaign.

63 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:57:15am

re: #51 NYexpat

Can you define "is" for me?
Just another democrat.

I can't, but I think bill clinton can.

64 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:57:19am

The Obama campaign has got absolutely nothing positive to offer, so all they do is scream racism and hope it sticks. Keep it up, guys. You know white people just love being called racist, it's a great way to make them support you.

65 gw  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:57:21am

No YouTube at the Detroit Tubes! Transcript link anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

66 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:57:30am
67 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:57:38am

re: #56 Typicalwhitey

McCain has a new ad up
See #37

LOL

Where?

68 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:57:42am

This ad is devastating.

69 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:57:47am

re: #62 Racer X

Wikipedia is spinning furiously to revise it's entry on Raines. When I checked a few days ago it clearly said Raines was involved in Obama's campaign.

This is not the Raines he knew.

70 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:57:51am

re: #66 Typicalwhitey

That's bold again Hon.

71 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:58:06am

So, either Raines is lying, or the Washington Post was lying... take your pick, liberals! We're happy either way.

72 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:58:06am

re: #66 Typicalwhitey

Third ad today

Take a deep breath.

73 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:58:07am
74 Alouette  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:58:08am

re: #44 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I'm sure the Left will scream racism, meanwhile this is considered art and entertainment

Sandra Blowhard is not a "sista" and her diatribe about gang-rape by black men is a projection of her own little "Mandingo" fantasy.

And the liberal Palin-demic continues.

75 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:58:10am
76 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:58:20am

#37 - linky please

77 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:58:27am

re: #73 Typicalwhitey

trying again

There you go!

78 simonml  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:58:38am

re: #57 eschew_obfuscation

Think 'Swift Boating'......telling the truth about the left is a 'smear'......especially if you use their own words in context.

That's the worst, when you use their own words. How can it be a smear if they said it? I understand taking quotes out of context, that can border on a smear for sure, but most of these ads are very straightforward. ie Hilldog saying BHO wasn't qualified to be President but McCain was.

79 Jamie  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:58:45am

re: #6 Sharmuta

McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said he was not aware of the e-mail to Fiorina, but noted that the Post reported on three occasions, between July 16 and Aug. 28, that Raines was advising Obama.

"If he was not advising, obviously someone somewhere along the way should have corrected the record," Rogers said.

That's a dangerous road for the McCain camp to go down, because it effectively allows the Obama camp to take anything the press reported about McCain, and present it as gospel if McCain didn't "correct the record." Bad idea...

80 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:58:48am

re: #54 pegcity

The left want to turn America into a totalitarian state where one can only read preapproved reading material.

Honestly, it does seem like it. Don't let them.

81 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:58:50am

NUMBER 73

Sheesh took me three tries lol

82 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:58:55am

re: #71 Occasional Reader

Amended:

So, either Raines is and Obama are lying, or the Washington Post was lying... take your pick, liberals! We're happy either way.
83 StinkHammer  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:58:56am

re: #26 Occasional Reader

Okay, here's why the ad is racist:

It shows a black man in a scary context.

Then it shows Fannie Mae HQ, which looks kind of like a southern plantation.

Then it shows a white woman (representing "taxpayers").

CLEARLY this ad is meant to play on the primordial fears of white people that black male slaves would rape white women.

So... do I get my "Air America" time slot now?

K-Lo (not usually one of my favorite commenters) had a cogent post on this over at NRO.

84 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:59:13am

re: #66 Typicalwhitey

Third ad today

Are you trying to link it? Links need the following:

a href="link" Link Title /a
With the a.."link" and /a in < and > marks.

85 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:59:17am

re: #73 Typicalwhitey

trying again

Mr. Present!

86 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:59:20am

Is McCain Rainesing on Obama's parade?
So sad.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

87 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:59:21am

re: #75 buzzsawmonkey

The link, for some reason, is not working but just sits there.

Takes a while to load, think its getting hit pretty hard

88 WriterMom  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:59:45am

re: #8 Occasional Reader

Just like Sandra Bernhard's comments about black rapists...

/crickets

89 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:59:46am

re: #84 Honorary Yooper

Are you trying to link it? Links need the following:

a href="link" Link Title /a
With the a.."link" and /a in < and > marks.

Yeah I know
Don't know what was going on....cue the oooo eeeeoooooeeeee music

90 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 8:59:54am

re: #73 Typicalwhitey

trying again

Excellent! Keep it up McCain.

91 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:00:16am

re: #88 WriterMom

Just like Sandra Bernhard's comments about black rapists...

/crickets

(self deleted)

92 docremulac  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:00:32am

I love the way the slime-o-crats knew they caused this whole financial meltdown so jumped into immediate lie mode. To make it look like the Republicans did this, Pelosi (the woman whose had plastic surgery that makes her face look like she's always surprised) demanded and "immediate investigation" and will "subpoena Republicans". This is in hopes that the double digit IQ crowd will think the "Dhuuu, wull, ah guss ya can't get one o' dem thar subpoenoey things un-lessun you're guilty. If the Democrats are doin' the investificatin', I'ssa guessin they be the good guys"

Democrats think the American people are as stupid as they are.

93 snowcrash  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:00:44am

re: #34 wrenchwench
My dog does the same thing when she is desperately trying to understand something. lol

94 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:00:52am

McCain probably shouldn't directly go after the Rev Wright thing, let the 527s deal with that.

95 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:00:54am

re: #73 Typicalwhitey

trying again

Heh. Mr. Present has some 'plainin' to do.

96 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:00:55am

re: #79 Jamie

That's a dangerous road for the McCain camp to go down, because it effectively allows the Obama camp to take anything the press reported about McCain, and present it as gospel if McCain didn't "correct the record." Bad idea...

WHat other reply should they use? It was reported repeatedly that Raines was advising 0bama. The McCain campaign has published articles to support their claim.

97 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:01:03am

BBL Lizards!
If anything exciting happens.....click my nic and EMAIL ME!

98 realwest  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:01:12am

re: #74 Alouette
Uh, sorry there, but her "Mandingo Fantasy" would involve Black women, not men.

99 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:01:16am

The only reason McCain is now even in the polls is because the MSM was forced to give him a platform during the convention.

They now have 3 weeks to attack him before the debates begin. Then, again the MSM will be forced to show McCain speaking freely.

This makes me wonder how McCain will get his message out during his Presidency.

MSM will slander him day after day. I am convinced they are no longer just "biased". They are out to smear and slander conservatives.

This is the problem Bush has been facing for the last 2 years.

Republicans must be creative in getting their message out. Somehow force the MSM to cover it.

I don't have any ideas at the moment.

100 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:01:17am

who cares if they scream racism. they will scream anything.
let them scream. they are insulting the american voter, w/their antics.

101 NYexpat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:01:58am

re: #45 yma o hyd

Has there been one - just one! - ad by the McCain campaing where the B0 people have not cried 'lies, lies!' ?
And then, a day or two later, have been made to retract, eat their words, 'readjust' their statement?

The Obama campaign knows that the ads are true, what the try to do is create the mindset within the public that the Republicans are liars. Everyone hears the Obama spokesmen yelling "LIES! SMEARS!" almost no one hears 3 days later when they say, "well, .... he wasn't actually a paid advisor"

102 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:02:13am

Arggh, matey it's Talk Like a Pirate Day!

Me thinks that John "Silver" McCain fired on that scurvy bastard Obama the Red, and holed his hull!

103 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:02:14am

re: #88 WriterMom

Just like Sandra Bernhard's comments about black rapists...

/crickets

They can't help it, they're criminal crackheads.

/P. Diddy explanation

It's really astonishing. "Liberals" can spew hair-curling racism, and they get a pass.

104 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:02:15am

I like how his ad quotes the NY Times!

105 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:02:32am

re: #99 faraway

1) The first debate is in a week.

2) The msm have been doing this to Bush since election night 2000.

106 WriterMom  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:02:51am

re: #100 nyc redneck

"Let them eat scream."

or Change.

107 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:02:53am

re: #99 faraway

The only reason McCain is now even in the polls is because the MSM was forced to give him a platform during the convention.

They now have 3 weeks to attack him before the debates begin. Then, again the MSM will be forced to show McCain speaking freely.

This makes me wonder how McCain will get his message out during his Presidency.

MSM will slander him day after day. I am convinced they are no longer just "biased". They are out to smear and slander conservatives.

This is the problem Bush has been facing for the last 2 years.

Republicans must be creative in getting their message out. Somehow force the MSM to cover it.

I don't have any ideas at the moment.


MacDaddy will go straight to the American people via press conferences.

108 WriterMom  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:03:33am

re: #103 Occasional Reader

Duh. It all makes sense.

Follow Da Man!

All roads lead to Whitey.

109 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:03:42am

Is it racist to suggest that if this political thing doesn't work, Barry could do a remake of Shaft?
See, this time Shaft is a metro-sexual named Barack. He organizes the community into a unicorn cavalry. They ride out & negotiate the mob into submission.
"They say this cat Barack is a bad motha fu......" 'Shut yo mouf"
'But I'm talkin bout Barack!"

110 simonml  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:03:46am

re: #102 jcm

Arggh, matey it's Talk Like a Pirate Day!

Me thinks that John "Silver" McCain fired on that scurvy bastard Obama the Red, and holed his hull!

Did you hear about the new pirate movie coming out? Its rated ARRRRRRR

111 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:03:47am

The left will say any attack is racism, so fuck them and go full speed ahead.

112 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:04:31am

re: #105 Sharmuta

1) The first debate is in a week.

2) The msm have been doing this to Bush since election night 2000.

Shoot, remember how the networks all called Florida for Gore well before the votes were even in.

113 WriterMom  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:04:32am

Wish me luck at Re-Education Camp today!

Gotta run...

114 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:04:43am

re: #102 jcm

Arggh, matey it's Talk Like a Pirate Day!

Me thinks that John "Silver" McCain fired on that scurvy bastard Obama the Red, and holed his hull!

Dude, I've been download MP3s and torrents all night. Pass me those blank DVDs, want to toss some in the burner.

Oops, wrong pirate.

115 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:04:48am

re: #6 Sharmuta

So, no one at the Washington Post corrected that story? The Obama campaign did nothing to correct it, and other people were using it as their source even though it is ostensibly wrong (at least according to the Obama campaign?)

Curious. Very curious.

116 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:04:52am

re: #107 Typicalwhitey

MacDaddy will go straight to the American people via press conferences.

Is that not what Reagan always used to do?

117 realwest  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:05:00am

re: #99 faraway
Well, since the MSM is SO in the tank for Obama, if McCain wins, then the MSM will become virtually irrelevant as a force in American Politics.
Started with Kerry, but this time they are really in the tank for Obama and with few, if any, compunctions about it!

118 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:05:24am

re: #48 opnion

These Obama people are sooooo damn infuriating.
The other night on the train a guy was talking a bout a book that he is reading. He pulls it out & wouldn't ya know, It's Corsi's "Obamination"
There was a moonbat eruption. Some serious shreiking. It was suggested in a rather crude way by an open mided progressive that he had no right to read it.
I chimed in the guy can read anything that he wants to.
The rejoinder was ,'Not a pack of lies like that"
I pointed out that in Obamas bio he claims that his parents met would he would have been four years old.. Useless

They were suggesting "book banning" like Palin?

119 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:05:24am

re: #116 Honorary Yooper

Is that not what Reagan always used to do?

He paid for his microphone!

120 BackwardsBoy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:05:31am

Job well done with this ad. Keep them coming. Now, which leftard keeps saying McCain can't use that Interweb thingy?

121 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:05:38am

re: #113 WriterMom

Wish me luck at Re-Education Camp today!

Gotta run...

Open your heart, and love Big Brother.

122 Jamie  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:05:38am

re: #96 Sharmuta

WHat other reply should they use? It was reported repeatedly that Raines was advising 0bama. The McCain campaign has published articles to support their claim.

I would have just pointed to the articles, say there is a record of Raines's affiliation with the Obama campaign, and accuse them of revisionist history. I absolutely would not try to establish the standard that "if the press said X, and you didn't say Y, then X must be true." Because you can be sure that with Sen. McCain's significantly longer public career, there are plenty more things that have been written about him, and he may not have taken the time or effort to counter arguments or outright falsehoods against him.

It's not a major, major issue, just a tactical position I would not have taken.

123 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:05:42am

re: #113 WriterMom

Wish me luck at Re-Education Camp today!

Gotta run...

good luck, {WriterMom}
let us know what happens.

124 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:06:04am

re: #118 faraway

They were suggesting "book banning" like Palin?

The left are truly fascists...

125 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:06:11am

re: #12 opnion

Is it just me, or does anybody else think that they will scream racism?

Considering that is pretty much their standard response to any kind of criticism I think it is a safe bet.

126 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:06:18am

re: #112 Honorary Yooper

Shoot, remember how the networks all called Florida for Gore well before the votes were even in.

Yes- and an hour early since the panhandle polls were still open, and thus suppressed the vote in heavy Dubya territory. I noticed it right away that it was called for Gore even though the numbers showed Bush was leading. It took them a bout 20 minutes to correct it an call the state too close to call. But the damage was already done.

127 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:06:22am

re: #103 Occasional Reader

hair-curling racism

Racist!

128 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:06:35am

re: #120 BackwardsBoy

Job well done with this ad. Keep them coming. Now, which leftard keeps saying McCain can't use that Interweb thingy?

That'd be one Barack Hussein Obama or Hyde Park, Chicago, Illinois.

129 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:06:59am

re: #118 faraway

They were suggesting "book banning" like Palin?


Exactly

130 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:07:19am

re: #115 lawhawk

So, no one at the Washington Post corrected that story? The Obama campaign did nothing to correct it, and other people were using it as their source even though it is ostensibly wrong (at least according to the Obama campaign?)

Curious. Very curious.

Indeed- because Kurtz is just a bastion of objectivity.

131 WriterMom  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:07:50am

re: #121 Occasional Reader

I'll have to really try hard to keep my big yap trap shut.

EGADS...

132 snowcrash  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:07:58am

Are these ads for the internet only or do they get airtime on TV?

133 WriterMom  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:08:06am

re: #123 nyc redneck

Thanks.

Ciao for now.

134 docremulac  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:08:49am

re: #91 Ward Cleaver

"Just like Sandra Bernhard's comments about black rapists..."

And speaking of that, exhibit #3,034,348,135 that liberals are the most racist, misogynistic, (not to mention homophobic, elitist) people on earth.

135 DeafDog  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:09:08am

re: #100 nyc redneck

who cares if they scream racism. they will scream anything.
let them scream. they are insulting the american voter, w/their antics.


....I scream

....you scream

.... we all scream

for Ice Cream!

136 mfarmer1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:09:09am

It's all white noise to me now, these ads, the speeches, etc.

As of this morning given the outrageous latest crap courtesy of our federal government, I no longer acknowledge Washington DC exists and will live my life as such.

And we all pooh-poohed and laughed at Maxine Waters when she threatened to nationalize the oil industry. Hell, she was Tiresias the Soothsayer.

137 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:09:16am

Liberals are racists, and bigots. They try to incite class hatreds.

138 realwest  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:09:27am

re: #115 lawhawk
Hey lawhawk, from your link:

Franklin D. Raines has been quietly constructing a new life for himself. He has shaved eight points off his golf handicap, taken a corner office in Steve Case’s D.C. conglomeration of finance, entertainment and health-care companies

Who is Steve Case? Do you know? What conglomerate does he own or head?

139 EIDE_Interface  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:09:29am

re: #136 mfarmer1

It's all white noise to me now, these ads, the speeches, etc.

As of this morning given the outrageous latest crap courtesy of our federal government, I no longer acknowledge Washington DC exists and will live my life as such.

And we all pooh-poohed and laughed at Maxine Waters when she threatened to nationalize the oil industry. Hell, she was Tiresias the Soothsayer.

Dems fighting words.

140 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:09:42am

re: #121 Occasional Reader

Open your heart, and love Big Brother.

What sort of "re-education" is WriterMom going to?

141 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:09:58am

DOW +408
NSADAQ +74
S&P +50

142 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:10:07am
143 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:10:19am

It's a GREAT day folks.

The Obama train just went of the tracks and dirt is flying everywhere. (-:

144 Nevergiveup  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:10:21am

re: #135 DeafDog

....I scream

....you scream

.... we all scream

for Ice Cream!

I miss the ice cream truck in the road and no one yapping about my high cholesterol. Ah the good old days.

145 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:10:40am

re: #124 EIDE_Interface

The left are truly fascists...

Not suprising since the left is full of fascists.

The Nazis were leftists and fascists.
The Italian Fascists were leftists (and obviously fascists).
Stalinist Russia was leftist and became fascist.
And, not the least, the early Progressives of the Wilson era were leftists and fascists. The same Progressives admired by Il Duce. The same as the modern Progressives' ideological heirs.

Why should we expect them to have changed?

146 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:10:51am

re: #141 jcm

DOW +408
NSADAQ +74
S&P +50

/careful...take profits...this biznis ain't over yet

147 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:11:08am
148 DeafDog  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:11:13am

re: #136 mfarmer1

It's all white noise to me now, these ads, the speeches, etc.

As of this morning given the outrageous latest crap courtesy of our federal government, I no longer acknowledge Washington DC exists and will live my life as such.

And we all pooh-poohed and laughed at Maxine Waters when she threatened to nationalize the oil industry. Hell, she was Tiresias the Soothsayer.


"white noise"?

Is that a subtextual rcist comment like 'black hole"?

149 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:11:31am

re: #145 Honorary Yooper

Stalinist Putinist Russia was leftist and became fascist.

Updated.

150 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:11:39am

re: #136 mfarmer1

And we all pooh-poohed and laughed at Maxine Waters when she threatened to nationalize the oil industry. Hell, she was Tiresias the Soothsayer.

If you think that's the same thing as the choices that the Bush Administration has faced this week, I really odn't know what to say. Other than "Ron Paul!", I guess.

151 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:12:15am
152 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:12:17am

re: #102 jcm


OOOOOOOOOO-no. Not JCM the pirate! LOL

153 jester6  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:12:55am

re: #132 snowcrash

I think they are trying to get the story onto the news.

154 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:13:07am

re: #147 buzzsawmonkey

Scary isn't she....

155 Pyrocles  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:13:14am

Damn, you're good at Moonbat speak... Are you a college professor?!

re: #26 Occasional Reader

Okay, here's why the ad is racist:

It shows a black man in a scary context.

Then it shows Fannie Mae HQ, which looks kind of like a southern plantation.

Then it shows a white woman (representing "taxpayers").

CLEARLY this ad is meant to play on the primordial fears of white people that black male slaves would rape white women.

So... do I get my "Air America" time slot now?

156 realwest  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:13:16am

re: #150 Occasional Reader
Amen.
sorry 'bout that!

157 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:13:31am

re: #138 realwest

This Steve Case: the founder of AOL. The conglomerate they're talking about is probably this one: Revolution LLC, a holding company, which includes the Case Foundation.

158 JeremiahRight  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:13:41am

Have you guys seen the Sarah Palin parody "Hockey Moms for Truth" ad?

159 jester6  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:14:08am

re: #138 realwest

Steve Case is the guy who ran AOL and essentially bought Time Warner with it's stock at the height of the dot-com bubble.

160 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:14:23am

does the misguided delusional left actually think that the american public is going to give a pass to a liberal socialist/communist anti-american candidate for potus because he is half black, and we don't want to appear racist?
that is such a racist expectation on their part.
they are insulting the american voter.
we don't want the guy because his ideology runs counter to what is best for this country.
he is dangerous. that is the focus.
what he subscribes to. not what color he is.

161 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:14:31am

I heard a great line a couple of days ago on cable.

Obama: to the left of Lenin

162 simonml  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:14:35am

re: #158 JeremiahRight

Have you guys seen the Sarah Palin parody "Hockey Moms for Truth" ad?

I found it very funny. A little disparaging of Palin, but mostly disparaging of leftist smears against her.

163 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:14:42am
164 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:14:44am

Obama denies Raines ties, accuses McCain of throwing stones from his "seven glass houses"

The campaign puts out a statement from former Fannie Mae chief Franklin Raines, disowning ties to Obama, after a McCain ad attacked him for the ties.

The Washington Post reported -- with the kind of blind sourcing that suggests the source was Raines -- that Raines had "taken calls from Barack Obama's presidential campaign seeking his advice on mortgage and housing policy matters."

Raines said in the statement through the campaign, "I am not an advisor to Barack Obama, nor have I provided his campaign with advice on housing or economic matters."

[snip]

165 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:14:52am

re: #158 JeremiahRight

Yes.

166 mfarmer1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:14:57am

re: #150 Occasional Reader

If you think that's the same thing as the choices that the Bush Administration has faced this week, I really odn't know what to say. Other than "Ron Paul!", I guess.

That freak looks good now compared to the piece of shit now sitting in 1600 Penn. Ave.

167 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:15:04am

Just a thought, the finacial crisis has stalled the Palin Surge.
The MCCain Campaign has to hammer Obama over & over about all the cash that Obama got from these guys in just two years.
Tie him in as part of the problem in real estate & mortgages with Rezko, & the sweetheart deal on the Mansion & the quid pro quo dirty slumlord grants & loans.
Make Barry the poster boy for the crisis.

168 Alouette  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:15:10am

re: #98 realwest

Uh, sorry there, but her "Mandingo Fantasy" would involve Black women, not men.

You just made me throw up in my mouth.

169 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:15:10am

re: #158 JeremiahRight

Have you guys seen the Sarah Palin parody "Hockey Moms for Truth" ad?

Yes, it was here a few days ago.

170 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:15:34am

re: #2 lifeofthemind

I need advice

300 advisors will have everything cleared up right away.

171 Last Mohican  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:15:40am

re: #27 Charles

Washington Post, July 16, 2008: On the Outside Now, Watching Fannie Falter.

Wow. That was not friendly. And it came from an extreme-left Obama suckup rag, too.

172 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:15:41am

re: #158 JeremiahRight

Have you guys seen the Sarah Palin parody "Hockey Moms for Truth" ad?

Yes, it's hilarious. "I am not a pit bull."

173 jester6  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:16:12am

re: #145 Honorary Yooper

I prefer the term collectivist - it catches all those groups who want to control people's lives for the "greater good"

174 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:16:19am

re: #166 mfarmer1

Then you'll enjoy writing in his name on Nov. 4th. Have fun.

175 mattm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:16:30am

Keep it up McCain. Hammer Obama on his polices that would destroy the country.

176 JeremiahRight  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:16:43am

re: #169 reine.de.tout

Whoops, I missed that one. Pesky day job getting in the way of surfing LGF!

177 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:16:46am

re: #166 mfarmer1

That freak looks good now compared to the piece of shit now sitting in 1600 Penn. Ave.

When the hell did Obama get in the White House? Did I fall asleep and it's now January 21st?

178 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:16:57am
179 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:17:27am

re: #173 jester6

I prefer the term collectivist - it catches all those groups who want to control people's lives for the "greater good"

I agree. It's the Collectivist vs. Individualist struggle.

180 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:18:21am

re: #141 jcm

DOW +408
NSADAQ +74
S&P +50

Just got a call from the guy who has my meager retirement account. Bought a local bank stock for $14 a month ago. Sold it for $27 this morning before the market began to level off. One bright spot in an otherwise dismal performance.

181 realwest  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:18:54am

re: #157 lawhawk
Interesting. Steve Case was born in Hawaii in 1958, his cousin Ed was a Democratic Left congressman and Steve himself is HEAVILY invested in Revolution Health Care Group.
Methinks some more investigation of Steve Case and his investments is called for here.

182 babes  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:18:55am

re: #138 realwest

AOL. He sold it to Time Warner and became one of TMs execs. He thought that he could be effective and rise to the top at TM. They got rid of him.

183 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:19:33am

Via AP:

Obama's campaign says Raines is not an Obama adviser and that McCain's campaign knows it because Raines said so in an e-mail earlier this week to Carly Fiorina, a top McCain adviser. Obama's campaign provided The Associated Press with a copy of the e-mail.

"Carly: Is this true?" Raines asks above a forwarded note informing him that Fiorina was on television saying he was an Obama housing adviser. "I am not an adviser to the Obama campaign. Frank."

Obama's campaign says Fiorina did not respond.

McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said he was not aware of the e-mail to Fiorina, but noted that the Post reported on three occasions, between July 16 and Aug. 28, that Raines was advising Obama.

Obama spokesman Bill Burton said he has since asked the Post for a correction.

Watch leftists holler that the WaPo had it in for Obama and that it's proof that the media is a VRWC. Watch. It will happen.

184 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:19:39am

re: #166 mfarmer1

That freak looks good now compared to the piece of shit now sitting in 1600 Penn. Ave.

That "piece of shit" has kept this country safe for 7 years now.

185 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:20:06am

re: #163 buzzsawmonkey

Yep. )-:

186 DeafDog  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:20:22am

re: #178 buzzsawmonkey

The problem Bush has faced, not only for the last 2 years but throughout his presidency, is that he has not used the power of his office to counter the smears and get his message out.

He is as woefully inept at public relations as Reagan and his team were good at it.

I agree for the most part, but when Tony Snow was the press secretary that situation was reversed for a while.

RIP, Tony. You were a great and honest communicator.

187 jester6  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:20:59am

Obama has many ties to FNMA

If you recall, Jim Johnson was heading Obama's VP vetting committee until he resigned under pressure in the spring.

From 1991 to 1998, Mr. Johnson served as CEO of the Federal National Mortgage Association.

188 realwest  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:21:28am

re: #168 Alouette
Sorry, but it's true.
Ask Madonna (among many others).

189 mfarmer1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:21:28am

re: #174 Occasional Reader

Then you'll enjoy writing in his name on Nov. 4th. Have fun.

Nah, can't do that. It doesn't matter here anyway, Obama's up by 15% in this state.

I'll probably sit this one out, and I've never done that.

190 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:22:00am

re: #178 buzzsawmonkey

The problem Bush has faced, not only for the last 2 years but throughout his presidency, is that he has not used the power of his office to counter the smears and get his message out.

He is as woefully inept at public relations as Reagan and his team were good at it.

I agree.

The difference to me is that the MSM has fundamentally changed in that they are no longer just "in the tank", but they are now willing to smear and lie. Think NYT, WashPost, NBC, and CNN.

MSM smears Bush day after day (Bush lied, go it alone Iraq War, etc.). Bush gets to speak to the nation once per year.

My question is really... what else could he do?

191 celtic templar  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:22:05am

re: #187 jester6

Obama has many ties to FNMA

If you recall, Jim Johnson was heading Obama's VP vetting committee until he resigned under pressure in the spring.

From 1991 to 1998, Mr. Johnson served as CEO of the Federal National Mortgage Association.

And that's why McCain played Raines only ... like cards... oh you say he wasn't an advisor, how bout Mr. Johnson and the FNMA? Keep them on the defensive.

192 mfarmer1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:23:07am

re: #180 Creeping Eruption

Just got a call from the guy who has my meager retirement account. Bought a local bank stock for $14 a month ago. Sold it for $27 this morning before the market began to level off. One bright spot in an otherwise dismal performance.

Great, where's my cut since it only happened because of my tax money?

193 BackwardsBoy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:23:51am

re: #132 snowcrash

Yes!

194 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:24:17am

re: #182 babes

AOL. He sold it to Time Warner and became one of TMs execs. He thought that he could be effective and rise to the top at TM. They got rid of him.

Contrary to popular opinion, Case made a smart move. AOL would have died without the buyout. It could not have survived on its own. A selling CEO never takes over the buyer.

195 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:24:41am

re: #37 Typicalwhitey

THIRD McCain ad today!

The navy pilot has community organizer well inside his OODA Loop.

196 jester6  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:25:34am

BTW, in 2006 FNMA had to "restate" earnings for a three year period when Reines was CEO. The restatement wiped out $6.3 billion in profit reported under Reines. Unlike Tyco, Enron or Martha Stewart no one went to jail for this one. I don't think anyone was indicted.

The reason, FNMA is the federal Democratic equivalent of the county auditor's office. It is full of patronage gigs. McCain can score big with this if he plays it right.

197 jester6  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:26:23am

re: #191 celtic templar

I'll bet you are right. McCain can beat Obama like a drum with this one.

198 Last Mohican  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:26:23am

re: #166 mfarmer1

That freak looks good now compared to the piece of shit now sitting in 1600 Penn. Ave.

I am definitely no Bush fan!

But nevertheless no, no he doesn't.

199 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:26:52am

re: #178 buzzsawmonkey

To be fair, the media has consistently ignored and misrepresented the Bush Administration, to the point of inventing quotes he never said.

200 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:27:43am

re: #107 Typicalwhitey

MacDaddy will go straight to the American people via press conferences.

Good luck getting the networks to carry them.

201 Ruthless  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:27:56am

The press has been stonewalling Bush for eight years. I have been critical of Bush for not doing a better job of communicating his points of view, but now I realize that he was not able to get the MSM to let him have the stage. When he addresses the nation, NBC, CBS and ABC simply continue to run their ad-revenue producing garbage such as sit coms, pro sports and reality shows. You can watch on C-SPAN, maybe Fox, but the vast majority of the people will not see the president's message. Then the print media jump on whatever he said and distort it until it is a FUBAR.

And if Bush tries to use the medium of the press conference as Reagan did so well, the press corps throws gotcha questions of the have-you-stopped-beating-your-wife style, howls for attention, does the Jeopardy bit to try to catch Bush out on some arcane subject, then ridicules him in the followup reporting.

Bill Clinton did not have those problems, and was able to get his messages across much better as a result. The MSM have become defenders of the Democratic Party, and it has been a long time coming. One refreshing thing about the present campaign is that more people are beginning to see that fact. I personally have not subscribed to a print newspaper in more than 20 years, stopped listening to NPR a few years ago when I realized that every time I tuned it in I was turning it off within a few minutes in outrage, and stopped watching TV news entirely after watching the disgusting CNN display of evil anti-Bush propaganda spewing at the time of Katrina. The MSM have created themselves as an enemy of America, in my opinion, and the fact that their approval rating is down there somewhere near that of Congress, sleazy used car salesmen and drug dealers is exactly what they deserve. (No disrespect meant for car salesmen and drug dealers.)

202 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:28:00am

re: #199 Kenneth


For sure. It's been a 7/24 smear on Bush.

203 Last Mohican  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:28:39am

re: #202 Dustoff-507

For sure. It's been a 7/24 smear on Bush.

"7/24": that must be the British/Canadian usage. I like it.

204 THX-42  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:28:41am

Here's another new McCain ad featuring Jim Johnson, former Fannie Mae CEO and Obama's former co-chair for VP vetting. The Obama bus is coming off its Axelrod.

205 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:28:52am
206 BackwardsBoy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:29:24am

re: #200 Dar ul Harb

Good luck getting the networks to carry them.

That's what the Internet is for.

207 J.S.  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:29:43am

re: #167 opnion

Exactly. I don't think this current ad hits hard enough...it's too nebulous (and all the other side has to do is deny the connection...and it's case closed...or "he said/she said.") Btw the Wiki bio on Franklin Raines is far, far worse than this ad...and it raises real suspicions about just what was going on with Freddie and Fannie...

208 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:30:47am

re: #147 buzzsawmonkey

The woman has a piehole that could engulf two foot-long Subway sandwiches - at once. That always impresses me.

209 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:31:22am

Obama wants to fight Al Qaeda hiding "between" Afghanistan & Pakistan.

Obama and like-minded Democrats pretend that al Qaeda is in Afghanistan (by blurring the distinction between Afghanistan and Pakistan) because it offers a way to justify pulling our troops from Iraq and sending them to Afghanistan to fight al Qaeda (as if "Afghanistan in the central front in the war on terror"). But this notion makes no sense at all if al Qaeda's leaders and fighters are inside Pakistan, which they are. In 2001, al Qaeda was in Afghanistan. Now, they're not. Thus, sending more troops to Afgnaistan to "finish the fight" against al Qaeda is a nonsensical idea, yet it is an idea that Obama repeatedly endorses.

It clear now, Obama's policy nuance is nothing more than an excuse to get US troops out of Iraq, which he promised Ahmadinejad oops, his base, he would do. He has no intention of actually fighting Al Qaeda anywhere.

210 jester6  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:31:28am

re: #201 Ruthless

I know about a half dozen people who are bright enough to think critically but never interested enough to read between the lines and see the distortion. These folks usually vote Democrat.

I have made it a point to use the Palin nomination was a way to point out the bias in the MSM. They might not change their vote but they will never trust the MSM again.

211 wiffersnapper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:32:32am

Kepp 'em comin', McCain!

212 Junior  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:33:24am

re: #69 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

This is not the Raines he knew.

Obama: "Raines was what, 12 years old when I was born? How in the world could I be connected to him?"

213 mfarmer1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:34:12am

re: #184 Sharmuta

That "piece of shit" has kept this country safe for 7 years now.

You call what has happened in the last two weeks and especially this morning, safe?

Yes, his one accomplishment has been that another terrorist attack has not happened on US soil. That is substantial. He gets all the credit there. And then it stops.

Every other single part of his Presidency has been a disaster. He'll leave will bookends of 9-11 and arguably the worst fiscal meltdown and mismanagement ever of our economy.

Keep drinking the kool-aid.

214 babes  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:36:12am

Is there a site that lists the people who are 'on' the Obama team? I would like to see a list of say 'the 300 foreign policy advisors' and others who are on the Obama payroll.

215 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:38:08am

When's The Obama going to bring up the Keating 5?

Or does he just not go there because his own corrupt associations make the Keating 5 look like a church picnic?

216 guzziguy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:38:21am

re: #143 Dustoff-507

It's a GREAT day folks.

The Obama train just went of the tracks and dirt is flying everywhere. (-:

I certainly hope you're right, but am curious as to why you'd think the o train has derailed. You know, what with all those MSM gandy dancers standing at the ready?

217 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:38:22am
218 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:39:31am
219 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:41:54am

re: #218 taxfreekiller

trouble is, if a R President goes on TV , gives out the facts,

the msm hacks then put on some loon Democrat, who lies and commits fraud for 30 min or an hour, then the hacks come on and call the R a liar and swear by each word the D lied.

like that

And, of course, Fox News, will be totally tone deaf, as usual, and will be showing non-stop missing-white-girl stories.

220 jester6  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:42:37am

re: #213 mfarmer1

This meltdown is no more Bush's fault then the dot-com bubble was Clinton's fault. Every few years - be it real estate, tech stocks, beanie babies or mortgage backed securities - bubbles appear and burst.

Between US, Europe and Asia we have had 20 or 30 meltdowns over the last 20 years. Information technology lets money and info move faster then ever before... so bubbles that once took decards to grow and burst can no complete a cycle in a years or months.

Get used to it my friend. No matter who is in the Whitehouse this is the wave of the future.

221 Ruthless  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:44:42am

re: #218 taxfreekiller

trouble is, if a R President goes on TV , gives out the facts,

the msm hacks then put on some loon Democrat, who lies and commits fraud for 30 min or an hour, then the hacks come on and call the R a liar and swear by each word the D lied.

like that

Correct, any time the President speaks "for the people" whom he represents, the Dems get to speak for the Dems. That is like asking someone to fight with one hand tied behind their back. In a fair world, both Republican and Democratic spokespersons should have a say whenever the President speaks, because as President he is NOT speaking for the Republican party, but for the country.

222 J.S.  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:44:56am

Hussein is yakking on CNN right now -- live. I suspect that Hussein is absolutely gleeful that the U.S. economy has been reported as being in a "meltdown". Any such talk instantly energizes Hussein, since he so despises the United States (probably hoping and praying for yet another financial crisis)...G-d I cannot stand this person...

223 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:46:27am

Rush is praising McCain's rapid-fire-style responses.

224 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:47:29am

re: #220 jester6

I disagree. People saw the potential problem a while back and tried to do something about it. In Sept. 2003 the Bush admin proposed creating an independent body to supervise & regulate the mortgage industry. It was blocked by the Dems in congress because their political supporters were getting very rich off the system.

225 J.S.  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:47:43am

re: #221 Ruthless

What CNN does is convene a "panel" (after say, a presidential address) -- the panel is loaded with Democrats 3 or 4 (or people in the pockets of the Democrats), and then thrown in is usually a single, lone "republican" (as a token speaker -- but the conservative is just there for "show" and to take the hits...)

226 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:48:38am

re: #222 J.S.

Has he used any favorite Marxist phrases like the "crisis of capitalism"? That would be quite a tell.

227 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:49:48am

re: #225 J.S.

And 9 time out of 10, the token "Republican" is the nutjob Pat Buchanan.

228 Ruthless  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:49:49am

re: #225 J.S.

What CNN does is convene a "panel" (after say, a presidential address) -- the panel is loaded with Democrats 3 or 4 (or people in the pockets of the Democrats), and then thrown in is usually a single, lone "republican" (as a token speaker -- but the conservative is just there for "show" and to take the hits...)

Yes, that is the "news" followup to the "official Democratic response," which only adds to the distortion of the President's message.

229 mfarmer1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:50:41am

re: #217 buzzsawmonkey

Since when is everything that happens in this country, and in this country's government, the sole responsibility of the President? He is supposed to execute the laws; it is the Congress that passes them.

And, in case you haven't noticed, that Congress has been in the control of a hostile and uncooperative party for the last two years, and that hostile and uncooperative party had a very strong presence in the Congress prior to that time.

That hostile and uncooperative party is also very largely responsible for the financial disasters that happen to have broken on Bush's watch, and are now busily laying blame on him to cover up their large hand in the current mess.

Oh please, there's plenty of blame to go around in both parties. The fact remains however that Bush appointed Christopher Cox, Henry Paulson, and Ben Bernake. These three should be drawn and quartered. Oversight of the financial system is an executive responsibility, and even with a hostile and uncooperative Congress, real leadership gets the job done and doesn't literally abandon every free market principle and circumvent the Constitution as Bush and his Wall Street cronies have done here.

230 J.S.  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:52:20am

Another trick that CNN employs is to have on one of their flagship "political" programs a staunch (raging moonbat) as "letter reader" -- who reads only Leftist email (occasionally, a conservative piece -- but it's overwhelmingly Ultra Left wing). The "letter reader" has also (this was at least a year ago) announced that he is a 100 percent supporter of Barack Obama. That is who the "letter reader" has announced he's voting for...Yet, on another CNN program (Lou Dobbs), the "letter reader" is labeled an "Independent." Yeah, sure. Tell us another one -- especially since the "Independent" is going all out for Obama...

231 mfarmer1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:52:56am

re: #220 jester6

This meltdown is no more Bush's fault then the dot-com bubble was Clinton's fault. Every few years - be it real estate, tech stocks, beanie babies or mortgage backed securities - bubbles appear and burst.

Between US, Europe and Asia we have had 20 or 30 meltdowns over the last 20 years. Information technology lets money and info move faster then ever before... so bubbles that once took decards to grow and burst can no complete a cycle in a years or months.

Get used to it my friend. No matter who is in the Whitehouse this is the wave of the future.

I don't recall Clinton obliging the American taxpayer for TRILLIONS of dollars to keep [Link: www.watchmygrassgrow.com...] solvent however.

232 Ruthless  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:57:08am

It should be kept in mind that the government is not "giving" money, but "loaning" money, and expects to get it back. AIG, for example, is committed to selling off assets to repay the loans. Some years ago Chrysler Corp. was "bailed out" with government loans, and paid the loan back early. The loans become assets for the government, and only if the recipients fail will they become liabilities for the taxpayers.

233 realwest  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:08am

re: #231 mfarmer1
Well then do you recall Clinton "refining and re-energizing the Community Redevelopment Act (passed in it's original form by Jimmy Carter) so as to make it easier for people with poor credit to sue financial institutions for failing to make those people with poor credit morgtage loans to buy a home?

That led DIRECTLY to the sub-prime mortgage crisis - lenders, not wanting to have to defend a zillion lawsuits made the loans, then sold the damn things to anyone (Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns were big for this) who would buy them, pool them, issue bonds at high interest rates and securitize those bullshit bonds with those pools of crappy mortgage loans.
And the really crappiest of the crappy went to Fannie or Freddie, who, under the Community Redevelopment Act HAD to provide funds to lenders to make those crappy loans. The result being that Fannie and Freddie now own more than HALF of all the home mortgages in the United States.
Thank you, Jimmy Carter.
Thank you, Slick Willie Clinton
Thank you Democrats in Congress.

234 kansas  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:05:29am

re: #27 Charles

Washington Post, July 16, 2008: On the Outside Now, Watching Fannie Falter.

Facts are a bitch. But how do you say liar in Spanish?

235 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:07:19am

I note without humor that the Dems/MSM are reduced to the "L" word. Let's all pray the people can penetrate the fog.

236 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:08:41am

re: #231 mfarmer1

Mighty convenient memory there, dude.

237 Iwo Gina  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:09:01am

When are campaign strategists/spokespeople going to realize they can't get away with lying or even with denying that something is true (or false) when it is, especially now in this day and age when everything is checked and double-checked not by the MSM, but by ordinary citizens that use the Internet to call these guys out each and every time? Remember "Rather-Gate"? You'd think by now they would know that their every word, especially if it is a claim or a denial of past behaviour, will be scrutinized to the nth degree!

238 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:20:09am

re: #166 mfarmer1

That freak looks good now compared to the piece of shit now sitting in 1600 Penn. Ave.

Slap across your mouth :(
I will not allow you to besmirch my President without fear of rebuttal or reproof.

239 Billy Hank  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:25:18am

re: #166 mfarmer1

That freak looks good now compared to the piece of shit now sitting in 1600 Penn. Ave.

Liberal Leftist Logic - a syllogism:

1. Bush lied, people died.

2. McCain is Bush's THIRD TERM.

3. McCain is a LIAR.

Q.E.D.

/s/

240 neocon hippie  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:26:31am

This ad is actually from yesterday. Today McCain released two others: "Jim Johnson" and "Nothing New", the latter of which refers to his waffling over AIG in the context of his 130 "present" votes in the IL legislature. They can be seen on Hot Air and elsewhere.

241 mfarmer1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:30:17am

re: #232 Ruthless

It should be kept in mind that the government is not "giving" money, but "loaning" money, and expects to get it back. AIG, for example, is committed to selling off assets to repay the loans. Some years ago Chrysler Corp. was "bailed out" with government loans, and paid the loan back early. The loans become assets for the government, and only if the recipients fail will they become liabilities for the taxpayers.

Chrysler received 1.2 billion dollars. The comparison here doesn't apply. This will be 2 or three million times that big. Besides, Chrysler made something. The financial thieves in this mess produce nothing except for a stain on Bush's, Bernake's, Paulson's, and Cox's (ahem) trousers for all the blow jobs they gave them.

242 mfarmer1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:32:00am

re: #238 midwestgak

Slap across your mouth :(
I will not allow you to besmirch my President without fear of rebuttal or reproof.

Whatever.

243 ghostcake  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:33:48am

Erm, do I really have to pick between the crazy Christian right and the loony left?

244 mfarmer1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:35:02am

re: #233 realwest

Well then do you recall Clinton "refining and re-energizing the Community Redevelopment Act (passed in it's original form by Jimmy Carter) so as to make it easier for people with poor credit to sue financial institutions for failing to make those people with poor credit morgtage loans to buy a home?

That led DIRECTLY to the sub-prime mortgage crisis - lenders, not wanting to have to defend a zillion lawsuits made the loans, then sold the damn things to anyone (Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns were big for this) who would buy them, pool them, issue bonds at high interest rates and securitize those bullshit bonds with those pools of crappy mortgage loans.
And the really crappiest of the crappy went to Fannie or Freddie, who, under the Community Redevelopment Act HAD to provide funds to lenders to make those crappy loans. The result being that Fannie and Freddie now own more than HALF of all the home mortgages in the United States.
Thank you, Jimmy Carter.
Thank you, Slick Willie Clinton
Thank you Democrats in Congress.


Oh please, and Bush went right along with it and in fact expanded it, and now has nationalized it. Even Carter and Clinton didn't get near that. Bush is in a league of his own now. Hardly a conservative, wouldn't you say?

245 the other Amy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:39:40am

Also posted at Hot Air is another ad about Biden and it being very patriotic to pay taxes. it is pretty funny

246 FrogMarch  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:47:26am

So Obama and his left-wing handlers (his Saul Alinsky handlers) are the LIARS.

247 FrogMarch  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:56:36am
248 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:38:21am

McCain comes from a miilary traidon where honor is important and lying has big consequences.

Palin hews to the 10 Commandments, on of which is do not lie.

Just sayin'.

249 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:40:02am

re: #222 J.S.

My country's flag that pin.
My country this country.

what a candidate

250 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:40:53am

re: #248 Ojoe

"tradition"

PIMF

251 Jimash  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:40:56am

It is getting mighty crowded under Obama's bus.
Still no room under there for Bill Ayers tho'. Wonder why ?

252 leereyno  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:46:19am

I don't know the story on this or the background.

What I can say is that a simple statement from Raines claiming he was taking calls from Obama's people isn't enough to qualify him as an adviser.

Maybe he is what the McCain campaign is claiming, maybe he isn't.

My tentative conclusion at the moment is that both sides are lying. McCain's people are exaggerating his involvement with Obama, while Obama's people are claiming no involvement at all.

Until I see something more substantive, that is the working assumption I'm going with.

253 KimZigfeld  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:49:33am

UPDATE

Wapo itself is now fact-checking its own reporting on Obama apparently trying to clear him

[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]

254 Neo_  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:53:09am

Tough Decision Coming WaPo Thursday, August 28, 2008; Page A18

... In the current crisis, their biggest backers have been Democrats such as Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher J. Dodd (Conn.) and House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (Mass.). Two members of Mr. Obama's political circle, James A. Johnson and Franklin D. Raines, are former chief executives of Fannie Mae.

255 Wendya  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:57:44am
Obama spokesman Bill Burton is calling John McCain a liar.

Of course he is.

That's the only trick they have left in the magic hat.

256 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:11:32pm

re: #183 lawhawk

I call BS. The Obama took money from Fannie and Fred and now he'll have us believe he never took the advice of one of its CEOs? Just like he never heard the Wright screes.

257 MadJadBad  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:18:22pm

re: talk like a pirate day.
Please don't.

258 Strike Hornet  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:19:45pm

I would LOVE to see a McCain ad with shots of Sean Penn, Michael Moore, Susan Sarndon and the other Hollywood Libtards posing with Chavez, Saddam, Bashar al-Assad and all the other murdering dictators the Kooks in Hollywood adore...then shots of Hollywood's finest posing with "The One" at one of his Beverly Hills Fund Raisers...Then Nancy Pelosi in Syria weariing her head scarf...
"Are these the people you want running this Country?"
McCain/Palin 2008

259 Media_man  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:38:32pm

It's about fricking time! I saw a McCain ad this morning & he's talking about greedy Wall St. bankers ruining the country. I thought "What a stupid ad". Blame scumbags like Raines instead. & His Dem allies that empowered Raines allowing him to bring this about. I just wish they'd have mentioned all the campaign cash Obama got from Fan/Fred.

Why didn't they put that in I wonder?

260 Joshua Godinez  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:06:00pm

I'd like a simple ad showing a mixed group riding on a bus and then voice-over Obama and his campaign's messages.

"I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother" "a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street"

Bus goes over a bump

Obama said he and his wife ... said their relations with Trinity United Church of Christ “had been strained by the divisive statements” of the retiring pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., “which sharply conflict with our own views.”

Another bump. Passengers start looking at each other in a worried manner.

“Frank Raines has never advised Senator Obama about anything—ever.”

Bump.

"You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest" "they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them"

Bump. Bus stops. Driver walks up to the passengers.

"Um. We're going to need you out front."

Barack Obama. Can't lead. Won't follow. Better get out of his way.

261 Strike Hornet  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:19:21pm

re: #213 mfarmer1

You call what has happened in the last two weeks and especially this morning, safe?

Yes, his one accomplishment has been that another terrorist attack has not happened on US soil. That is substantial. He gets all the credit there. And then it stops.

Every other single part of his Presidency has been a disaster. He'll leave will bookends of 9-11 and arguably the worst fiscal meltdown and mismanagement ever of our economy.

Keep drinking the kool-aid.

The Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac meltdown has Democratic fingerprints all over it...
Talk about drinking the Kool-Aid

262 Clutch  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:20:53pm

re: #44 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Sandra Bernhardt needs to wrap them big old funky lips of hers around the tail -pipe of 0bammy's bus and SUCK LONG & HARD.

263 Scion9  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:59:42pm

re: #145 Honorary Yooper


Stalinist Russia was leftist and became fascist.

Russia was a totalitarian police state under Lenin, long before Stalin was ever in power. It was Lenin who started the first Gulag for those who did not agree with his political ideology, within days of assuming power. Kruschev blamed Russia's problems on "Stalinism" and that garbage line stuck. Many racist Western Leftists, especially Americans, said the problem with Russia was the 'defective nature of the Russian soul'.

The problem with Russia was that it was full of Communists. Communist Russia was at no point ever not a totalitarian police state. It was alway fascist. Hell, if you read Stalin and study his reign, practically every deviation from Marx's Communism to 'Stalinism' is one putting a softer touch on the ideology. Stalin took the ideology the only place it was ever going to go. A real Marxist would have gotten there a lot faster.

264 THX-42  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 2:04:44pm
#262, Sandra Bernhardt needs to wrap them big old funky lips of hers around the tail -pipe of 0bammy's bus and SUCK LONG & HARD.

Apparently, judging from recent photos, she already has.

265 ceemack  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 2:32:50pm

Do you think Aaron Sorkin was thinking of the Obama campaign when he wrote the line "You can't handle the truth!"

266 someotherguy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 2:35:31pm

McCain should just repackage and reuse this add...

Obama Owns Housing Bubble Crisis

[Link: townhall.com...]

267 dwigg  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 5:00:55pm

Had to go to the LGF dictionary for a refresher course. Every time I see "MSM" in a post, my mind reads "main stream media". Got to fight the constant propaganda.
Thanks as always, LGF!
From the LGF Dictionary; Moonstream Media - Derisive term for the left-leaning media; a conflation of moonbat and mainstream media.
[coined by Zombie_Killian 1/11/2005 06:41PM].

268 big L  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:20:02pm

233 realwest- Community "reinvestment" Act...

269 galtg  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:38:45pm

and here's something from a blog on obama's website

Who is advising Barack Obama?
By Keith from Albany, GA - Sep 18th, 2008 at 3:38 pm EDT
Comments | Mail to a Friend | Report Objectionable Content

Franklin Raines

Franklin Delano Raines (born January 14, 1949 in Seattle, Washington) is the former chairman and chief executive officer of Fannie Mae who served as White House budget director under President Bill Clinton. He is currently employed by Barack Obama's Presidential Campaign as an economic adviser.

[Link: my.barackobama.com...]

Obama: just another lie


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