I'm not going.

Rush is dealing with this.

McCain: Country First

0bama: Party First

But don't accuse the Democrats of putting politics over COUNTRY!

It shows the Dems want Israel destroyed.
Otherwise, they could have come up with someone to go.

Palin should go as a private citizen

re: #3 Sharmuta

McCain: Country First

0bama: Party First

YA beat me by 6 seconds

So Obamatons -- how is that "unite the country" thing working out.

Here is a message for you - we are on to you. We know the Chicago political extortion tactics. And we know that "Unity" is a code word for "crush dissent".

We won't stand for it, regardless of the outcome in November.

An "anti-Iran rally"? Is anyone actually pro-Iran? Besides Iranians I mean.

re: #10 Ford_Prefect

An "anti-Iran rally"? Is anyone actually pro-Iran? Besides Iranians I mean.

Most of the General Asembly?

And the mullahs are laughing.

I went to this for the last two years and was more than happy to stand with Democrats and anyone else who would stand up to the Hitler of Iran. This year I was thrilled that Palin would be there. So I'm not happy at all about this turn of events.

re: #10 Ford_Prefect

An "anti-Iran rally"? Is anyone actually pro-Iran? Besides Iranians I mean.

There's a large segment of their citizenry that is against the ruling regime.

re: #1 NoSubmission

I'm not going.

I was actually planing on taking the day off and going if Sarah was gonna be there.

re: #8 Nevergiveup

GMTA!

re: #10 Ford_Prefect

An "anti-Iran rally"? Is anyone actually pro-Iran? Besides Iranians I mean.

Go to Columbia University. Plenty pro-Iranian Mulatocrats there.

re: #3 Sharmuta

McCain: Country First

0bama: Party First

Obama: Me first, screw everyone else.

re: #11 Nevergiveup

Most of the General Asembly?

And, it seems, the Dhimmicrat party, and certainly the 0bama campaign.
The 0 has said he'd talk to Ahmadinejad without preconditions; he'd hand Israel to him on a silver platter, with a bed of arugula.

Meanwhile AP follows up the really pressing issues;

Poll: Obama tops McCain as football-watching buddy

WASHINGTON (AP) — People would rather watch a football game with Barack Obama than with John McCain — but by barely the length of a football.

re: #18 mattm

Obama: Me first, screw everyone else.

That too.

re: #10 Ford_Prefect

An "anti-Iran rally"? Is anyone actually pro-Iran? Besides Iranians I mean.

Jimmy Carter?

re: #18 mattm

Obama: Me first, screw everyone else.

You know, that attitude is not helping Michelle's children.

/

Obama could settle it all and debate Mahmoud at the UN.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
He's already said "I would".

Here's yer chance Barry.

This was not the Sarah Palin we invited.

Somebody is gonna have to leave. Americans or the Leftists. One or the other as the two groups cannot co-exist.They are fundamentally incompatible.

re: #24 RTLM

Obama could settle it all and debate Mahmoud at the UN.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
He's already said "I would".
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Here's yer chance Barry.

Yeah, I love to see that before the election.

Of course. Rethuglicans are the world's only evil; they are the enemy. If only they would cease to exist, the world would be perfected at last.

/takes another sip from his cocktail

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

The Democrats are far more eager to "work with" America's enemies than to work with Republicans.

re: #24 RTLM

Obama could settle it all and debate Mahmoud at the UN.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
He's already said "I would".
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Here's yer chance Barry.

What debate? They both agree on Israel, Barack just won't say so because he wants the Jewish votes. He's not going to talk to Madmoud in public, but in private.

Can't Palin/McCain have their own protest or event or something?

The groups who organized the rally should be ashamed of themselves for caving into this nonsense. If Obama or Biden can't spare the time to join in a worthy cause - supporting Israel and standing against Iran's malfeasance, that speaks volumes about their true support and intentions towards Israel and Iran.

It speaks volumes about how these Jewish groups will cave to Democrats' demands at the bat of an eye.

This is a lesson that sadly will not be learned by Jewish voters who have conditioned themselves to reflexively vote D. Absolute stupidity.

re: #10 Ford_Prefect

An "anti-Iran rally"? Is anyone actually pro-Iran? Besides Iranians I mean.

I would use the term pro-Persian. I love Iran, and the people having lived there a decades.

I loathe the Mad Mullahs and their minions and hope we're working on introducing them to their 72 virgins soon.

re: #15 Nevergiveup

I was actually planing on taking the day off and going if Sarah was gonna be there.

That would have been great of you. I was going to squeeze it into my lunchbreak and run up and across town to be there.

Oh well.. I know a lot of others who won't be there either.

re: #27 Honorary Yooper

Barry would have difficulty in talking. His lips would be firmly attached to Dinner Jacket's posterior in a pose of adulation.

re: #17 karmic_inquisitor

Go to Columbia University. Plenty pro-Iranian Mulatocrats there.

OK, let me rephrase:

An "anti-Iran rally"? Is anyone with a brain actually pro-Iran?

re: #32 lawhawk

Yes, this should convince Jews to vote for McCain, but it won't.

I doubt the Messiah would lower himself to watch a football game. So much beastly violence.

re: #20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Meanwhile AP follows up the really pressing issues;

Poll: Obama tops McCain as football-watching buddy

Q: What is the difference between an Obamaton and a journalist?

A: One cheers wildly at Obama speeches, accuses his detractors of racism, is prone to spasms of joy when Obama's name is mentioned, and talks incessantly about Obama's integrity, intelligence and judgment in spite of the many facts demonstrating the contrary.

The other is ineligible for the Pulitzer Prize.

re: #24 RTLM

Obama could settle it all and debate Mahmoud at the UN.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
He's already said "I would".
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Here's yer chance Barry.

This is the first time in my life I've ever rooted for Ahmadinejad.

/no SARC at ALL, dammit!

re: #33 jcm

pro-Persian

Amen!

re: #33 jcm

I would use the term pro-Persian. I love Iran, and the people having lived there a decades.

I loathe the Mad Mullahs and their minions and hope we're working on introducing them to their 72 virgins soon.

Point taken. Generally it isn't the people of a country that one dislikes, it's the ruling body. I make an exception for the French however.

re: #42 Ford_Prefect

Point taken. Generally it isn't the people of a country that one dislikes, it's the ruling body. I make an exception for the French however.

I think most everybody makes an exception for the French.

Of course Obama won't go or send Biden either. He wouldn't want to cause any unpleasantness with Ahmadinejad that might spoil their little tea party, would he?

re: #42 Ford_Prefect

Point taken. Generally it isn't the people of a country that one dislikes, it's the ruling body. I make an exception for the French however.

Eh, the French are fine, some still love us and voted for Sarkozy ... There are more Americans that I despise than French at the moment.

re: #43 Honorary Yooper

I think most everybody makes an exception for the French.

I also take exception to the French.

I am amazed and stunned, truly amazed, that this group would have "disinvited" Palin, and cannot for the life of me understand their reasons or logic.

The link to Commentary Magazine above contains this statement issued by the McCain campaign. I'm glad to see they've issued a statement on this:

Throughout my political career, I have sought to rise above partisanship on critical national issues. Nowhere is this more true than on important matters of national security. Earlier this year, Senator Clinton, Senator Obama and I issued a joint statement on the genocide in Darfur and pledged to support efforts to bring it to an end. Earlier this month, Senator Obama and I put the campaign aside to commemorate the seventh anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on our country and talk about the importance of national service.

Next Monday, the day before Iranian President Ahmadinejad is to speak before the United Nations General Assembly, several organizations will sponsor an event to draw attention to the importance of halting Iran’s efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. Governor Palin and I share a strong belief that a nuclear armed Iran poses a grave threat to the security of Americans and to our allies. Iran is the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism. The risk that Iran would provide terrorists with a nuclear weapon is too great for the world to ignore. Iranian President Ahmadinejad has denied the Holocaust occurred and called Israel a ’stinking corpse.’ A nuclear-armed Iran would destabilize the entire region.

Preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons should be a shared goal of every American, not another occasion for partisan posturing.

Governor Palin was pleased to accept an invitation to address this rally and show her resolve on this grave national security issue, regrettably that invitation has since been withdrawn under pressure from Democratic partisans. We stand shoulder to shoulder with Republicans, Democrats and independents alike to oppose Ahmadinejad’s goal of a nuclear armed Iran. Senator Obama’s campaign had the opportunity to join us. Senator Obama chose politics rather than the national interest.

re: #1 NoSubmission

I'm not going.

hey {NoSub}, how are you?
i think i'd go if i was in town. i hate how sarah got bumped.
but that "sh*t slinging monkey" needs to be hollered at.

The left is against Iran? When did this happen?

Reposting my morning mini-rant:

James Baker - "F*ck the Jews - they don't vote for us anyway."

Barack Obama - "F*ck the Jews - they will vote for us anyway."

re: #42 Ford_Prefect

Point taken. Generally it isn't the people of a country that one dislikes, it's the ruling body. I make an exception for the French however.

And the rest of the world makes an exception for Americans, it seems, particularly those Americans who are of the gun-totin', bible-huggin' variety.

Governor Palin was pleased to accept an invitation to address this rally and show her resolve on this grave national security issue, regrettably that invitation has since been withdrawn under pressure from Democratic partisans. We stand shoulder to shoulder with Republicans, Democrats and independents alike to oppose Ahmadinejad’s goal of a nuclear armed Iran. Senator Obama’s campaign had the opportunity to join us. Senator Obama chose politics rather than the national interest.

Tell it!

re: #50 littleoldlady

!

re: #51 reine.de.tout

And the rest of the world makes an exception for Americans, it seems, particularly those Americans who are of the gun-totin', bible-huggin' variety.

Ahh, you're just bitter.

re: #49 wiffersnapper

The left is against Iran? When did this happen?

In the last 2 months of a Presidential election. They think that bitter clingy types can be easily fooled. We are all just dolts, or we would be leftists.

I went last year and GOP and Dems both spoke without any soert of crisis. This year the rally would have got much more coverage, but the organizers have decided to give up the coverage to placate Obama. The same Obama whose Church lauds Farrakhan.

I will be staying home this year.

re: #47 reine.de.tout

Preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons should be a shared goal of every American, not another occasion for partisan posturing.

Governor Palin was pleased to accept an invitation to address this rally and show her resolve on this grave national security issue, regrettably that invitation has since been withdrawn under pressure from Democratic partisans. We stand shoulder to shoulder with Republicans, Democrats and independents alike to oppose Ahmadinejad’s goal of a nuclear armed Iran. Senator Obama’s campaign had the opportunity to join us. Senator Obama chose politics rather than the national interest.

And that's why he should never be trusted with the Presidency. If he can't set aside politics for iran, fercryinoutloud, then he's not worthy of the position.

re: #10 Ford_Prefect

An "anti-Iran rally"? Is anyone actually pro-Iran? Besides Iranians I mean.

Neturei Karta.

WOW...

re: #37 Kosh's Shadow

Yes, this should convince Jews to vote for McCain, but it won't.

Remember that latest NY polls show McCain taking a large lead over Obama amognst Jewish Voters. I think other than the real left wings Jews, this should hurt Obama more.

I thought it was the Chosen One and his disciples that were calling for change and would be the only ones to reach across the aisle? Why is it they don't want to be seen at an event in which the future Vice President Sarah Palin would be attending? I think they are so full of themselves that they could not fathom the spotlight not shining down upon their egotistical Fannies and their massive ego's cannot stand it.

re: #54 Ford_Prefect

Ahh, you're just bitter.

Ha. And becoming bitterer every day, I guess.

re: #42 Ford_Prefect

I make an exception for the French however.

I've forced myself to (somewhat) back off an identical stance. Was in Nice for 3 weeks on business a few years ago. Lucked into finding a blue-chip, first-rate, top-drawer, cab driver. He'd worked in a bank for many years, then left to buy a cab. Said he was working at least twice as hard, but was ecstatically happy at being his own boss.

I never expect to go back, but I've still got his business card.

re: #59 Alouette

Neturei Kartka.

There, that better describes them. :-)

re: #48 nyc redneck
Hey nycredneck! I'm good. We need to tawk! I'll call you.

re: #59 Alouette

Neturei Karta.

Actually the rally is more Pro-Israel than anything else and many people are anti-Israel, even in NYC

re: #3 Sharmuta

McCain: Country First

0bama: Party Obama First

re: #57 buzzsawmonkey

If you're gun-totin' and Bible-huggin', and I'm Bible-totin' and gun-huggin', can we still get along?

Oh, I get along with everybody.
'cept medaura.

re: #50 littleoldlady

{littleoldlady} - great mini-rant. Just perfect. Thank you.

re: #20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ooooh. Bummer. Missed a First Down by what? Eight inches.

Phhhhh.

The BS answer I got from UJC - I told them I wasn't buying it:

STATEMENT FROM THE ORGANIZERS OF THE RALLY TO STOP IRAN NOW

From The National Coalition to Stop Iran Now


(New York, Sept. 18, 2008) --- The purpose of "THE RALLY TO STOP IRAN NOW" on Monday, Sept. 22, 2008, is to protest the presence of Iran's President Ahmadinejad at the United Nations, and to oppose his nuclear weapons program. We take most seriously his threat to wipe the United States and Israel "off the map" and believe the world leaders gathered at the United Nations must act with resolve to prevent a nuclear armed Iran that would be a threat to this country, Israel and the world.

For this reason, tens of thousands of people of every faith and ethnicity are expected to hear messages from prominent religious and civic leaders, including Nobel Laureate Elie Wiesel and Israeli Knesset Speaker Dalia Itzik. In order to keep the focus on Iranian threats and to ensure that this critical message not be obscured, the organizers of the rally have decided not to have any American political personalities appear.

This issue, opposition to a nuclear-armed Iran, is one which enjoys bipartisan support and the backing of the American people across the political spectrum. On this, all Americans stand together. We acknowledge and deeply appreciate those American political leaders who have been and remain prepared to stand with us as we collectively address the dangers of Iran's nuclear program and its support for terrorism globally.

We hope that the world leaders gathered at the UN will hear this message and resolve to act decisively against the Iranian nuclear program by implementing UN and Security Council resolutions and sanctions.

We again call on all concerned Americans of every background to join us at the "RALLY TO STOP IRAN NOW" on Monday, Sept. 22, at 11:45 A.M.

Signed:
The National Coalition to Stop Iran Now
The Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations
United Jewish Communities
UJA-Federation of New York
The Jewish Council for Public Affairs
The Jewish Community Relations Council of New York

re: #3 Sharmuta

McCain: Country First

0bama: Party First

Biden: Plugs First.

re: #3 Sharmuta

McCain: Country First

0bama: Party First

Ya know, it is truly shocking to compare Obama's rhetoric from the days of the Iowa caucaus. The speech he gave when he won Iowa was great. Of course, I knew very little about the man at the time, but his talk about stopping small minded politics hit a nerve with me.

As I know now, however, his actions don't (have never) lived up to that rhetoric.

When I speak with folks about the election, Obama supporters refer to Obama's plans to justify their support for Obama and to convince me to support Obama. Plans are what matter to them. To me, plans for the future are only important if two candidates have similar records. Talk, after all, is cheap. It's what you do that counts.

When Obama was running against Hillary, it seemed to me that they both had similar records (I do not give Hillary credit for Bill). But when comparing Obama's record to Johnny Mac, the comparison is laughable. What this county needs is someone to take on the party system - let's face it, both the major parties are corrupt. Johnny mac (and Sarah P.) have that record. Obama and Biden do not.

I know I'm stating the obvious to the LGF'ers, but I had to say it anyway.

re: #63 reine.de.tout

Ha. And becoming bitterer every day, I guess.

Careful, or you may end up looking like this guy.

I can't blame the Obama camp for not going to the rally. They were doomed to failure on this one. Either they show up and become a sideshow to Palin's appearance - or they decline, and are seen as trying to politicize it. damned if you do, damned if you don't.. That being said, they probably chose the path that would seem to bring the least amount of "scandal".

And seriously, when are we going to start looking at legitimate issues instead of these faux "scandals".

{realwest}!

re: #72 NappieRed

We again call on all concerned Americans of every background to join us at the "RALLY TO STOP IRAN NOW" on Monday, Sept. 22, at 11:45 A.M.

Well, there ya go! Palin can just show up as an American of Every Background, and just be there! Wouldn't you love it?

re: #63 reine.de.tout

Ha. And becoming bitterer every day, I guess.

Oil your firearms and read.
*grin*

Party first. Power first. America? Wherever and whenever we can fit it in to our busy schedule maintaining the first two items.

Attitudes like that really piss me off as they are becoming more and more prevalent in American politics.

Leave it to a handful of sorry Jewish liberals to screw up our goal of isolating the theocracy of Iran. The NJDC had to put politics in front of our faces instead of providing a unified front against this very real threat...

My letter to Ira Forman, Executive Director of the NJDC:

As a jewish republican from Maryland, I am dismayed that you would disinvite Governor Sarah Palin from speaking at your rally. If Hillary Clinton decides not to speak, I don't see why this would matter. On the Iran issue, a republican or democrat speaker should not be an issue!

You have done a great disservice to our cause. Meanwhile, it seems to me the democrats are taking a rather soft stand to the very people you are demonstrating against! Obama has publically stated that he wants to negotiate with Iran and that Iran is a "tiny" country that cannot threaten the world!

Now that Saddam Hussein is gone and there is verifiably no threat of more Scud missiles attacking Israel from Iraq, I would have thought Jewish-Americans would be more appreciative of a republican administration. I see from your reaction to Ms. Palin, that the Jewish-American community still has a lot to learn about security issues, the threats to Israel, and which political party is best suited to confront terrorism.

JF

re: #75 Ford_Prefect

Careful, or you may end up looking like this guy.

LOL!
He looked happy to me, not bitter!

J-Street's bullying tactics cannot be separated from the Obama campaign. One of J-Street's founders is Alan Solomont:

"The definition of what it means to be pro-Israel has come to diverge from pursuing a peace settlement," said Alan Solomont, a prominent Democratic Party fundraiser involved in the initiative. In recent years, he said, "We have heard the voices of neocons, and right-of-center Jewish leaders and Christian evangelicals, and the mainstream views of the American Jewish community have not been heard."

Solomont is also a major fundraiser for - Barack Obama.

Solomont, however, approaches his work not as just helping a candidate but as furthering a cause.

"This is a mission-driven, value-laden enterprise, and I am philosophical about it," he said during an interview in the memorabilia-filled conference room of his office in this Boston suburb.

Throughout the conversation, Solomont emphasized that raising money is a means to an end: getting politicians who share his goals of a more economically and socially just country. He said his work is deeply driven by the Jewish teachings he learned growing up in an observant household in the nearby town of Brookline.

And guess what Solomont used to be?

"The war on poverty created structures for citizen involvement, and my work centered on getting people empowered through collective action,'' he said.

After working as a community organizer Solomont, who has undergraduate degrees in nursing and political science, made his wealth in the nursing home and senior home health care businesses. He now devotes almost all his time to political and philanthropic work.

Solomont says working as an organizer helped him form an instant bond with Obama, who undertook similar efforts in Chicago in the 1980s.

Solomont supports Obama because Obama shares his values.

re: #79 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Can you do that last part - in the dark? LOL.

re: #10 Ford_Prefect

An "anti-Iran rally"? Is anyone actually pro-Iran? Besides Iranians I mean.

Uh, you should've seen Columbia U when Ahmadinejad came to speak last year. It's the mentality of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Every anti-American group you could think of was out there demonstrating "solidarity with Iran."

Ya know the ONE thing I don't understand here is WHY the Democrats Leftists couldn't come up with someone to attend the rally in Clinton's place?
I certainly understand that Obama didn't want Palin there - it might actually give American Jews pause for thought before pulliing that lever marked "D" in November. But they have also missed a truly GOLDEN opportunity to show their solidarity with Israel (and presumably American Jews) and their opposition to a nuclear Iran.
They aren't usually this stupid, so I wonder what's really going on?

re: #66 NoSubmission

Hey nycredneck! I'm good. We need to tawk! I'll call you.

i'll be back tues. let's get together. miss you.
finished the chapters. :)

re: #83 dhg4

Community organizing appears to be the tie that binds.

J Street were one of the groups behind this, they're part of the Jewish moonbat "screw Israel" crowd.

I don't think they're even a part of the protest anyway, in fact they're probably on side with the poisonous Iranian dwarf.

"Peace Now" are also listed on the official site, I mean, WTF? How do "Palestinian"-firsters get invited but not Palin?

Obama already said a couple of times that he doesn't care for "Likudnik Jews". I'm thinking he's none too fond of AIPAC either. (They may as well close up shop if The One wins.) His Jews are J Street.

This is J Street.

re: #80 Perplexed

Party first. Power first. America? Wherever and whenever we can fit it in to our busy schedule maintaining the first two items.

Attitudes like that really piss me off as they are becoming more and more prevalent in American politics.

The places where they are prevalent in American government are what piss me off.

re: #42 Ford_Prefect

Point taken. Generally it isn't the people of a country that one dislikes, it's the ruling body. I make an exception for the French however.

Churchill nailed the issue in The River War.

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science – the science against which it had vainly struggled – the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome

The curse of "fearful fatalistic apathy" innoculated into the Persian over centuries of Islam is the largest barrier to the Persians overthrowing the Mad Mullahs. Inshallah (if Allah wills it) is a very real cultural problem, and it's used to great effect by the mullahs to keep people in place.

"You are where and in the state you because Allah wills it. Who are you to question Allah?"

This IMHO is the single greatest factor in the masses of the Islamic world sitting on the sidelines. The Jihadist are doing Allah's will, who can question them? Their state is the will of Allah, we are they to improve it? The government is Allah's will who are they to question it?

Hence the stagnation of the Islamic world, and be clarity of Churchill's analysis.

re: #84 Cap'n DOC

Can you do that last part - in the dark? LOL.

Don' know 'bout reading, but one should be able to field-strip and re-assemble in the dark.

/just keep yer thumb outta th' receiver housing!

re: #90 littleoldlady

Obama already said a couple of times that he doesn't care for "Likudnik Jews". I'm thinking he's none too fond of AIPAC either. (They may as well close up shop if The One wins.) His Jews are J Street.

This is J Street.

J Street declares VICTORY!

Dems win and brag about it

re: #77 littleoldlady
Hi sweetie! Seriously, that was a GREAT mini-rant!
May we have some more, please?

Religious Jews have been voting "R" for several years now. But liberal Jews are liberals first, Jews 222nd.

Anyone hear of Penny Pritzker hosting a party for Ima Dinnerjacket when he's in town?

re: #28 buzzsawmonkey

The exaltation of "objectivity" and "balance" into a principle that mandates blacking out or vetoing people and viewpoints if one cannot find someone willing to be countervailing is a way of distorting and misusing the concept of fairness as a tool for censorship.

But I'm sure they will get the "Fairness Doctrine" right next time around and 'radio policeman' is a great job. Federal government employee; full benefit's; retire with full pension after 20; no risk; comfy office...

re: #95 realwest

Any more, realwest, and I'd need a new monitor at the very least.

/I'm in livid-mode.
//NOT a pretty thing
///TRUST ME.

re: #99 littleoldlady

Don't mess with the littleoldlady.

Anyone hear of Penny Pritzker hosting a party for Ima Dinnerjacket when he's in town?

Rush just mentioned it on his show.

re: #101 Former Lurker
I think this needs a little looking into.

If I were Palin, I'd go anyway....as a citizen against Ack.

What is interesting here is that Biden, and Clinton wouldn't appear at a rally AGAINST Achmedinijad, but the Conservatives would. This is exactly what I (and most Conservatives) have been trying to prove/show to our Democrat friends....that the Left doesn't share our values anymore....they kowtow to Anti-Semitic, Genocidal, despots like Ach!

re: #17 karmic_inquisitor

Go to Columbia University. Plenty pro-Iranian Mulatocrats there.

What is a Mulatocrat?

re: #90 littleoldlady
Well {littleoldlady} if Obama really is tied into J Street, and if Obama gets elected, Israel will no longer have any support for it's existence from the government of the U.S.
Not to say that Bush and the State Department have been the BEST friends Israel could hope for, but they and McCain do truly support the right of Israel to exist and have either said (Bush) or pledged (McCain) that they will support Israel.
J Street? "What's Israel?"

re: #104 jamgarr

What is a Mulatocrat?

An Islamist with a bad haircut

re: #97 iceman1960

Anyone hear of Penny Pritzker hosting a party for Ima Dinnerjacket when he's in town?

Heard it on Rush. Free Republic had a post about it.

Penny Pritzker, Obama's campaign finance chair, is the heir to the Hyatt hotel fortune. The Grand Hyatt in New York city is hosting an "interfaith dinner" with Iranian President Ahmadinejad Thursday night (September 25) when he comes for his annual UN propaganda tour.

Breaking bread with a genocidal maniac who has repeatedly told his people and other world leaders to prepare for a "world without America." Meanwhile, his country works on the Atomic Bomb.

He also has the blood of US troops on his hands--Iran has provided advanced weaponry to insurgents in both Iraq and Afghanistan, which were used to kill our GIs.

re: #106 lifeofthemind

An Islamist with a bad haircut

Ala Joe Dirt?! LOL!

So, we're supposed to believe this group of Jewish Democrats is willing to stand up against Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, when they're not even willing to stand up to US Democrats?

re: #99 littleoldlady
You KNOW I trust you and don't want you to have to buy a new monitor! LOL!
Why doncha keep a pillow handy?!

re: #83 dhg4

Updinged and hearted.

Thanks for digging that out.

re: #86 realwest

Ya know the ONE thing I don't understand here is WHY the Democrats Leftists couldn't come up with someone to attend the rally in Clinton's place?
I certainly understand that Obama didn't want Palin there - it might actually give American Jews pause for thought before pulliing that lever marked "D" in November. But they have also missed a truly GOLDEN opportunity to show their solidarity with Israel (and presumably American Jews) and their opposition to a nuclear Iran.
They aren't usually this stupid, so I wonder what's really going on?

The 0 needs more donations from Iran maybe?

Unlike previous elections where the Dems tried to sugar coat their policies, Obama and Biden are pretty much openly calling for EU style socialism in this election.

What does that say about our future that even if he does not win, at least 45% of the population is going to vote for him.

re: #112 Kosh's Shadow
Nah, that cash is gonna keep flowing no matter what; if there's one thing Iran is really concerned about it's a McCain victory in November.

re: #94 SpartanWoman

J Street declares VICTORY!

Dems win and brag about it

Yeah - and this quote (from littleoldlady's link) says clearly what they want:
"We'll be back at it tomorrow, because our next task is making sure that the messages at the rally reflect the view of a majority of Americans - Jewish and otherwise - that the best way to deal with Iran is through tough, smart diplomacy - not saber rattling and threats of force. "

Moonbats for B0 ...

re: #110 realwest

You KNOW I trust you and don't want you to have to buy a new monitor! LOL!
Why doncha keep a pillow handy?!

HORSEFEATHERS! ;-)

JStreet's Advisory Council.

/may they forever be ashamed of themselves...

re: #35 Perplexed

Barry would have difficulty in talking. His lips would be firmly attached to Dinner Jacket's posterior in a pose of adulation.

Wow - that would make for a muted version of ululating - sweet!

re: #107 redstateredneck

Wow. Fucking Wow. We really are living in Atlas Shrugged when the elites of our society are willing to break bread with the leader of the barbarian horde.

This is a protest against Iranian nuclear ambitions scheduled for Monday, and organized by an umbrella of Jewish organizations. Most Jews are Democrats. Apparently, the Jewish Democrats within the organizations objected to including Sarah Palin among the speakers at the rally, and Hillary withdrew as a speaker on grounds that including Palin was "partisan".

The Jewish community is fractured. The Democrats within that community would rather play partisan politics on behalf of anti-Israel and anti-semitic factions within their own party. This is astonishing, and benefits only the enemies of Israel and the US.

Does he get to take his trusty teleprompter to the debates?

re: #119 jester6

Wow. Fucking Wow. We really are living in Atlas Shrugged when the elites of our society are willing to break bread with the leader of the barbarian horde.

Hosts of the dinner at the Grand Hyatt:

Courtesy of new General Assembly President Miguel D’Escoto, who is Nicaragua’s foreign minister, and a coalition of left-wing American Christian groups, he will be the guest of honor at a private iftar dinner to celebrate the end of Ramadan. The September 25 event at the Grand Hyatt Hotel has all the trappings of a Cold War solidarity event. Joining D’Escoto as hosts are some companeros from the former Catholic priest’s Sandinista days: The World Council of Churches, the American Friends Service Committee, the Mennonites, and the US section of the World Conference of Religions for Peace.

re: #117 littleoldlady

HORSEFEATHERS! ;-)

JStreet's Advisory Council.

/may they forever be ashamed of themselves...

These people ar far beyond shame ...

re: #123 redstateredneck

World Council of Churches: an appalling collection of leftist Christian useful idiots.

re: #125 quickjustice

World Council of Churches: an appalling collection of leftist Christian useful idiots.

Embracing diversity rather than adhering to the one true God's word.
/spit

re: #124 yma o hyd

yma! :-)

Including representatives from the best Jewish organizations such as MoveOndotOrg and AirAmerica...

/sheesh. I need chocolate...or ice cream...or chocolate ice cream...or something!

Here are the organizer's e-mail addresses:

info@conferenceofpresidents.org
info@theisraelproject.org
info@ujc.org

Ask them why they caved under pressure from ONE extremist group.

I've been dawdling and procrastinating but it's way past time that I got my political blog up and running. My current website is a 501(c)(3) so any political leaning is stark verboten if I want to be down with the IRS.

re: #117 littleoldlady
I really can't respond to that advisory group, because I'm quite sure my post would be deleted and I might even be banned if I said what I think they deserve.

re: #117 littleoldlady

HORSEFEATHERS! ;-)

JStreet's Advisory Council.

/may they forever be ashamed of themselves...

Note that one of the members of the council is Lincoln Chaffee, one of the famous Republicans for Obama.

When Chaffee was a Republican in the Senate the NJDC would regularly criticize him for his anti-Israel stands. Now that he's on the Obama team, there's silence on his record.

As far as I'm concerned, the Dhimmicrap party has now shown they are enemies of Israel. If I gave them any benefit of the doubt, I'd say they didn't care, but I think they'd prefer if Israel were gone.
History is littered with the corpses of the enemies of Israel; the Jewish nation has survived exile, while their oppressors have been defeated.
So to, will go the Democratic party.
And this election might be the start, G-d willing.

But I do hope that an honorable second party emerges, I do not like seeing only one candidate for an election; it reminds me too much of a dictatorship.

re: #125 quickjustice

World Council of Churches: an appalling collection of leftist Christian useful idiots.

The degraded apostate church of Revelation.

I was really looking forward to hearing Palin speak.

/
Thank you Joe Biden and Barack Obama.

/

re: #116 yma o hyd

Yeah - and this quote (from littleoldlady's link) says clearly what they want:
"We'll be back at it tomorrow, because our next task is making sure that the messages at the rally reflect the view of a majority of Americans - Jewish and otherwise - that the best way to deal with Iran is through tough, smart diplomacy - not saber rattling and threats of force. "

Moonbats for B0 ...

What makes these traitorious psudo-Jews think they know what the "majority" of Americans and Jews want?

"How did Bush win?....noone I spoke to was voting for Bush..."

This moment was the time for the McCain campaign and Jewish groups who support McCain to hit hard and fast at Obama and the JINO supporters of Obama.

This was time to remind Jewish voters exactly who Obama is, what his background is, who his associates are, who his advisors are, and what statements he made early on regarding Iran and Israel.

But nothing is being done and once again Obama will be getting a "pass."

J Street's 'Statement of Principles'

The future Palestinian state will require unprecedented levels of international economic and political support to succeed, including a resolution of the refugee issue within the new Palestinian state and in current host countries;

An American policy in the Middle East more broadly based on diplomacy, multilateralism and real partnership with the European Union, the Quartet and others. We support dialogue with a broad range of countries and actors, including Iran, over confrontation in order to find solutions to the region’s conflicts.

i.e. Create another Islamic terror state carved out of Israel, throw endless amounts of money at it, then they'll be peace.

And from there gloating front page about today's "victory:"

the best way to deal with Iran is through tough, smart diplomacy - not saber rattling and threats of force.

i.e Waste everyone's time around the boardroom meeting table, in the meantime, Dinnerjacket can manufacture his Jihad-nukes in private.

re: #132 Kosh's Shadow
Indeed, for America to survive as America, we MUST have a two-party system. The idea that either the Republicans or the Democrats Leftists have a monopoly on good ideas is distressing enough.
But when you see that the Leftists have NO POSITIVE ideas and instead go on vacation when our nation faces an enormous crisis in energy, in our general economy and in dealing with a newly aggressive Russia, you know that America needs another political party, other than the Republicans and the Leftists, to survive.

Well y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta go eat some lunch!
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

I know this is off-topic, but I heard this about Michelle Obama and would like to know if it is old news or inaccurate? According to Snopes.com, that although Mrs. Obama requested Princeton not to release her Princeton thesis, it had been leaked. Apparently, it contains very racist and anti-American comments. Anyone know anything about it? And if it is true, could LGF get a copy? Thanks

Posting telephone numbers is against the rules.

Post links to their web sites instead.

re: #141 realwest

Well y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta go eat some lunch!
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Real, sounds better! eat instead of mush lunch!

re: #139 Spiritualized

What amazes me about these shmucks is their undying inability to learn anything from the past. They completely ignore that even the Phakestinians don't claim that what Jstreet is proposing will satisfy then, and the fact that every time Israel attempted exactly what they propose, the Phaketinians UP their requests and terrorism.

Lastly the fact that they use their "jewishness" to push for completely anti Jewish things, is a double shonda.

Quickjustice said:

The Jewish community is fractured.

Quickjustice,

I'm sorry to say this, but you're right. The Jewish community has been fractured ever since the democrats have veered so far to the Left, that self-defense is no longer in their vocabulary.

re: #146 neoconundrum

Um, no. The Jewish community has been fractured since we left Egypt.

re: #142 Pacificlady

Link to her thesis. FYI, it isn't very good. She makes the comment that her studies at Princeton made her conservative. Wonder what happened there.

re: #146 neoconundrum

Quickjustice said:

The Jewish community is fractured.

Quickjustice,

I'm sorry to say this, but you're right. The Jewish community has been fractured ever since the democrats have veered so far to the Left, that self-defense is no longer in their vocabulary.

Why is that the case?

So, the Democrat Jews don't want to offend the Obama, afraid that he'll seek revenge on them as president? What craven cowards! Lest we forget that this is the same person who comfortably sat in an Israel hating church for 2 decades which also sidled up to Louis Farrakhan who referred to Israel as a stinking corpse. I do not wish to be represented by such a group and there should be an alternate protest.Shame on them for rejecting the support of the true Zionists.

WrathofG-d,

We weren't fractured when Israel was created out of the ashes of the Holocaust.

I guess that's ancient history on par with Egypt and the scudding of Tel Aviv...

re: #111 yma o hyd

Updinged and hearted.

Thanks for digging that out.

My pleasure!

re: #97 iceman1960

Anyone hear of Penny Pritzker hosting a party for Ima Dinnerjacket when he's in town?

Got a chuckle out of me. :)

Since when have the Democrats adopted an anti-Iran policy? If they are going to be in there in force, perhaps it should be renamed pro-Iran protest.

Sen Obama, bless his poor deluded heart, has no sense of international politics, much less historical politics. When has anyone ever successfully conducted peaceful negotiations with the Persians or Iranians? Or for that fact, any belligerence country?

re: #104 jamgarr

What is a Mulatocrat?

A mispelling - I meant Mullahtocrat - one who believes in rule by Mullahs. As in Mullahcracy.

re: #106 lifeofthemind

An Islamist with a bad haircut

I like that definition better. Mullahs with Mullets.

Why is that the case?

Perplexed,

Jews are born with a liberal gene. But seriously, due to the many hardships we've faced in Europe and through the ages, Jews feel that voting democrat/liberal will ensure freedom of religion and keep this out of public discourse (aka public schools, the courtroom, etc). Naturally, Jews fear religious extremism; whether is is pro-Israel Pat Robertson or anti-Israel Pat Buchanan.

As a conservative, I understand their concerns, but I honestly can't find people who are more pro-Israel than gentile (and gentle) conservative republicans like those on this website (and my hero Charles) who are not only pro-Israel, but pro-doing something about terrorism.

What a relief. No need to rip this guy a new asshole:

[Link: www.myfoxdc.com...]

re: #156 neoconundrum

Time for Jews to take the blinders off and see the libral for what it is. Cynically tolerant of Jews in order to reap material gain. Period. John McCain and his brother are avowed Zionists, the Obama, *spit*

re: #151 neoconundrum

That is partially true. Yes, Jews stood together at that moment, but we have a history of assimilation-prone "jews" destroying the Am Yisroel as a whole in an attempt to appease. (the golden calf, Hellenists, The 1st Temple, etc.)..

re: #149 Perplexed & neoconundrum

...this I believe is the problem. First and foremost is the fact that it has always been G-d's plan to set the Jewish people apart from the Nations. We are to be a "light UNTO the Nations" not a light FROM the nations. We (Jews) are not meant to assimilate, or be a part of the larger whole of Nations. We are supposed to follow G-d's Judaism and lead the world to Peace.

The problem arises when those calling themselves "Jews" try to appease the Nations, by acting very un-Jewishly. This is the case of the Democrat Jews.

This is a result of and the cause for the Reformation of Judaism (for these people) into something that is more human centric, and Demcratiic Party Valued, than G-d Centric and Jewish Valued. This is easily seen in their policy regarding the so-called Phakestinian Arabs and many other issues.

These individuals were completely embarrassed, and ashamed with actual Judaism so they tried to drop it all together, but throughout History, they learned that no matter what they do, the real world won't allow them to escape their Judaism (Hitler is ONE example of this), so they instead then aimed at changing Judaism to be more Nation-friendly...they assimilated their Judaism to actually be less Jewish and more Democrat Political Party Valued....ie: more P.C., more Internationally Acceptable. This weakness, and disgusting shame of being a Jew is unfortunately passed down through their so-called Reform, Reconstructionist, etc. "synagogues". Its so bad that I have actually heard speaches for politicians and against Global Warming on Yom Kippur (the Holiest Day of Repentance for Jews). On these days, these cowards, instead of asking for forgiveness from G-d, and fearing G-d, instead worshiped Democrat liberal values.

These individuals no longer worship G-d as they are meant to do as Jews but instead choose the Idol of Democrat Values.

This is not new though. We had this problem right after we left Egypt. There were those among us, even after witnessing G-d's Holy miracles, who couldn't accept their special place in this world and reverted to the Nation's methods of Idol worship. It was this assimilation, embarrassment of being Jewish, and taking on of the Nations' values that caused both the 1st and 2nd Temples to be destroyed. The entire holiday of Chanukkah is about Religious Jews, fighting back against those Jews who had disgraced the Temple by assimilating into Roman culture and taking on Hellinist values. (even practicing them in the Holy Temple)

Hopefully this helps.

re: #156 neoconundrum

Why is that the case?

Perplexed,

Jews are born with a liberal gene. But seriously, due to the many hardships we've faced in Europe and through the ages, Jews feel that voting democrat/liberal will ensure freedom of religion and keep this out of public discourse (aka public schools, the courtroom, etc). Naturally, Jews fear religious extremism; whether is is pro-Israel Pat Robertson or anti-Israel Pat Buchanan.

As a conservative, I understand their concerns, but I honestly can't find people who are more pro-Israel than gentile (and gentle) conservative republicans like those on this website (and my hero Charles) who are not only pro-Israel, but pro-doing something about terrorism.

But the democrats were the party of the slave holders. They were the party of the KKK. They were the party of the racists. So, if I were a Jew why would I crawl into the political bed with people who wish me ill?

Time for Jews to take the blinders off ...

Vagabond trader,

I'm actually tired of debating them.

re: #159 WrathofG-d

Sorry about post 160.

re: #160 Perplexed

HOLD UP

see 159 please.

re: #163 WrathofG-d

Saw it. Very good and it explains much.

So, if I were a Jew why would I crawl into the political bed with people who wish me ill?

Perplexed,

Right, but dems do sell the "separation of church and state" better than the GOP. Each party has its problems. Pat Buchanan and Ex-Secretary of State James Baker have done a beautiful job of scaring even conservatives like myself. Of course, I don't let a handful of jokers pull me away from this great website and the GOP;)

re: #164 Perplexed

I should add however, that in many ways however even Democrat "Jews" follow actual Judaism. However, when their Democrat Political Party Values clash with what G-d has told us to do, they chose to follow their Democrat Political Party Values. They fail when it comes to the difficult decisions. (like actually having to kill people to ensure the survival of your own, and standing up against those who promise your genocide)

re: #165 neoconundrum

I don't put my faith in either party. To do so is idol worship.

re: #143 Charles

Sorry! I post so rarely (but read constantly!) I'm out of touch with the rules.

re: #24 RTLM

Obama could settle it all and debate Mahmoud at the UN.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
He's already said "I would".
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Here's yer chance Barry.

With which rules? Loser loses head? Can they both lose?

/sarc

re: #165 neoconundrum

It was not so long ago that being a libral was not synonymous with moonbat. Jews stood side by side with blacks during the civil rights struggles of the 50s and 60s. It was the more radical element of blacks who eventually rejected mainstream Jewish support. We should have taken the hint then that we are not really welcome by the left. Jews do not need to feel vulnerable or alone anymore, there will always be Israel.

re: #160 Perplexed

But the democrats were the party of the slave holders. They were the party of the KKK. They were the party of the racists. So, if I were a Jew why would I crawl into the political bed with people who wish me ill?

There has been a series of op-ed pieces by Tom Mountain in the (Boston) Jewish Advocate. I don't know if they're available on line. (The paper is one of the few, even in the Jewish community, that is generally pro-Israel, although they have some of what I would consider anti-Israel commentators for balance)
Basically, the Republicans turned anti-Semitic around the same time Teddy Roosevelt lost their support. (TR was fine).
And too many Jews still tar the Republicans with being Christian, due to the support of evangelicals.
That, plus the idea of being a liberal first and a Jew 10th, sort of explains it.

WrathofG-d,

You'll have to excuse me, I was brought up in an orthodox jewish synagogue, but I'm not very observant. I don't mix religion with politics, and religion is a quiet, personal issue I'm not inclined to divulge in public.

That being said, Israel has a right to defend herself, just like the US does. This is a universal, man-made law without having to invoke Torah or anything G-d said. That democrats would prohibit a pro-Israel VP from speaking against a mortal enemy of the Jewish People is appalling. With that, perhaps, we agree.

What kind of organization pays this much attention to the guest list before they try to warn the world that there's mad man building nukes and threatening civilization?

An absolutely worthless one.

re: #173 neoconundrum

WrathofG-d,

You'll have to excuse me, I was brought up in an orthodox jewish synagogue, but I'm not very observant. I don't mix religion with politics, and religion is a quiet, personal issue I'm not inclined to divulge in public.

That being said, Israel has a right to defend herself, just like the US does. This is a universal, man-made law without having to invoke Torah or anything G-d said. That democrats would prohibit a pro-Israel VP from speaking against a mortal enemy of the Jewish People is appalling. With that, perhaps, we agree.

With that we wholeheartedly agree. If you would like my secular answer to why some Jews vote Democrat, I could give that too. I gave my 1st, most honest answer, and that is the more Historically driven, G-d centered one.

You are correct though when you state that there are many non Religious reasons why one should and could support Israel.

It believe however that in many ways even the secular reason for why some Jews vote Democrat against their own self interest really just comes down to embarrassment of being actually Jewish, and assimilation.

If you have a sec, please write me at WrathofG-d@hotmail.com. I have this article I would LOVE for you to read, but cannot post the link here.

re: #142 Pacificlady

Michelle's thesis can be found at Politico...here. What I'm wondering about is Obama's dissertation...now that one I'd like to see...

I think Jstreet should read this:

AP: Ahmadinejad Says Israel Won't Survive

Washington, D.C. (September 19, 2008) -- The Associated Press reported yesterday that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad lashed out at Israel on Thursday, saying the Jewish state would not survive, even if it gave up land for a Palestinian state.

He also dismissed allegations that his country is trying to make nuclear arms.Speaking to reporters in Tehran, the hard-line leader smirked at the former mantra of the Israeli right of a "Greater" Israel that would include land Palestinians want for a future state. The idea has since been abandoned, with the Israeli political consensus now being that there would be a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza, on either side of Israel.

"I have heard some say the idea of Greater Israel has expired," Ahmadinejad said. "I say that the idea of lesser Israel has expired, too."

Ahmadinejad used the news conference to speak at length before traveling to New York to attend the U.N. General Assembly that opened Tuesday.

The Iranian president repeated previous anti-Israel comments, calling the Holocaust a "fake" and saying that Israel is perpetrating a holocaust on the Palestinian people.

Yesterday Republican Jewish Coalition Executive Director Matt Brooks expressed outrage that the planned "Stop Iran" rally in New York had been hijacked by those with a political agenda.

"A strong effort by the Jewish community to stand up and show the world that we are united in our fight against this madman has been hijacked by those with a political agenda. We are extremely disappointed that in response to political pressure from partisan organizations, Governor Palin has been disinvited to the "Stop Iran" rally in New York. We are disappointed that neither Senator Obama nor Senator Biden chose to participate in this important event. Yet again they have missed an opportunity to stand up to Iran and have their voices heard," said RJC Executive Director Matt Brooks. "Senators Obama and Biden and their supporters have handed Ahmadinejad a big win."

I'd go if they invited me, but I can't honestly say that I think it's correct for a potential VP, from any party to be in the middle of a demonstration that could turn into a circus or worse.

Surely such people have more focused, controlled and effective opportunities to make a point like this?

re: #178 Naso Tang

She would most likely be speaking or on the stage. She wouldn't be standing among "the people".

I allowed myself to get caught up here too, but we shouldn't allow ourselves to be fooled into thinking that Achmedinijad is simply a Jewish or Israel issue.

Protesting against Achmedinijad is a protest FOR AMERICA, having nothing to do with Israel.

Achmadinijad doesn't ONLY want to destroy Israel, he also wants to destroy the United States. His wanting to kill us is a bi-partisan issue (or at least it should be), and I hope the Dems realize that quick!

As a Jew, I am embarrassed by the actions of these Jewish organization. My apoloizes to Gov. Palin. Jews are getting dumber and dumber, or maybe we have a self-destruct gene.

re: #181 Pacificlady

This is a theory that when the Jews left Egypt, others who were not Jews snuck in and went with them. They were the ones that built the golden calf. The theory goes that they also make up much of the "Jewish people" today that act in such un-Jewish ways. Another theory states that these non-Jewish-Jews will be the ones to bring down the people of Israel, and the State of Israel before things get ultimately better.

re: #177 WrathofG-d

I think Jstreet should read this:

(Amadmanonjihad says Israel won't survive)

It is DISGUSTING that the UN would have a major speaker like this.
Statements calling for the end of a country by the leader of another country should be grounds for having the offending nation at least suspended from the UN, if not thrown out completely. This kind of thing is completely violates the spirit in which the UN was created.

It shows how far down the UN has gone, and that it should be disbanded.

re: #184 Kosh's Shadow

I would like to know, and don't have the time to check, if there is a precedent for this type of behavior, &/or if the UN is making an Israel exception.

Has anyone ever threatened the destruction of another UN country in such a manner? How was it responded to? Is that response different to how the UN is responding to the threats against Israel?

I have a hunch, but would LOVE to know the facts.

re: #83 dhg4

"The war on poverty created structures for citizen involvement, and my work centered on getting people empowered through collective action,'' he said.

After working as a community organizer Solomont, who has undergraduate degrees in nursing and political science, made his wealth in the nursing home and senior home health care businesses.

How is it that guys like Solomont and Obama go from community organizer to great wealth? Hmmm?

re: #177 WrathofG-d

Good for Matt Brooks!

re: #185 WrathofG-d

I would like to know, and don't have the time to check, if there is a precedent for this type of behavior, &/or if the UN is making an Israel exception.

Has anyone ever threatened the destruction of another UN country in such a manner? How was it responded to? Is that response different to how the UN is responding to the threats against Israel?

I have a hunch, but would LOVE to know the facts.

I don't know. The only times I hear anyone calling for the destruction of other countries, are from places like the Muslim world (calling for Israel's destruction). Even Russia didn't call for the destruction of Chechniya, just replacing the government with one that wouldn't attack Russians (no matter the reason).
China, maybe, but they are subtly different, saying Taiwan is part of China.
Hitler, but that was before the UN.

But even if another country did, I would still say that calling for the destruction of another country goes against what the UN is supposed to stand for. Saying "We'd like to be at peace with country x but cannot because they are trying to kill us" should be acceptable, though.

re: #188 vagabond trader

Isn't there a quote about all you need for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

way to go Biden/Obama.

re: #189 Kosh's Shadow

Fair enough but let us not forget that Ach has called for the destruction of not one but 2 countries.

When you think of Ach, you should also think of this.

I don't know if it has been said, but I want to present the logic of the organizing groups as I understand it (even if I disagree with their actions)...

The whole idea is that by causing a divisive partisan shift of who would speak at this rally, the issue of Iran becomes a partisan issue. While most here at LGF would agree it already is in many respects (the Democrats aren't interested in dealing with the Iranian threat), the organizers want Iran to be viewed as an AMERICAN issue. They really wanted BOTH Clinton AND Palin to speak, without looking into the ramifications of attempting to do just that.

When they realized this political firestorm was brewing, they perhaps over-hastily decided to drop all elected officials, without realizing that the very act of disinviting Palin becomes a political act in and of itself.

So, they are worried that if an elected official appears from only one party appears, they will lose their tax exempt status?

So, has anyone accused this group of being unpatriotic yet? Maybe someone needs to clue them into the Joe Biden patriotism platform, and how they need to actively work at losing that tax exempt status so they can 'chip in'.

That way they more actively work on 'chipping in' on Biden's other big plan; a big, fat, no strings attached check for $200,000,000.00 for Iran.

re: #191 WrathofG-d

Fair enough but let us not forget that Ach has called for the destruction of not one but 2 countries.

When you think of Ach, you should also think of this.

Good point. I can't watch it now, but I know that to Amadmanonjihad, the US is the "Great Satan", Israel is only the "Little Satan", which is what I try to tell anyone who hasn't had their brain turned to moonbat mush.

re: #13 NoSubmission

I went to this for the last two years and was more than happy to stand with Democrats and anyone else who would stand up to the Hitler of Iran. This year I was thrilled that Palin would be there. So I'm not happy at all about this turn of events.

IF I LIVED IN NU YAWK I WOULD GO BUT I WOULD BE SURE TO WEAR MY MCCAIN PALIN HAT
iran getting nukes is the most important reason to vote for john mccain NO ONE ELSE IS READY TO BE COMMANDER IN CHIEF

re: #186 ploome hineni

She wants your cake as well to give to those who didn't earn it.

Similarly the anti-Israel group that calls itself pro-Israel, J-Street, protested Gov. Palin's scheduled speech to the rally:

These Jews are of the same type that marched their family members into the gas chambers during WW II, just for an extra day of life.

just quickly checking in. I know I've asked this before, but why on earth would ANY Jew be a democrat?
Jesus!

re: #198 leboaz

just quickly checking in. I know I've asked this before, but why on earth would ANY Jew be a democrat?
Jesus!

Oy!

Which will come first: A cure for cancer, or a cure for liberalism?

re: #198 leboaz

just quickly checking in. I know I've asked this before, but why on earth would ANY Jew be a democrat?
Jesus!

I speak with a bit of authority on the subject, as a Jew descended from Communist radicals.

The reason that many Jews are Democrats is that a number of Jews came to the United States at the end of the 19th century, having belonged to Communist and Socialist organizations in Russia and other parts of Eastern Europe. When they saw the hates Tsar fall to the October Revolution, many of them assumed that Communism was the best thing for the future of the Jews and of mankind in general. And in the 1930s, the Democratic Party was open to Socialist ideas, so it became the natural home for these Leftist Jews.

This carries over in family traditions today; further, the new generation of Jewish Leftists style themselves as the Progressive wing of the Democratic Party.

Poll: Obama tops McCain as football-watching buddy

Wow! If that isn't grounds to be the leader of the free world, I don't know what is!

re: #26 maddogg

Somebody is gonna have to leave. Americans or the Leftists. One or the other as the two groups cannot co-exist.They are fundamentally incompatible.

I vote to boot the Leftists (and anyone else who hates America).

re: #32 lawhawk

The groups who organized the rally should be ashamed of themselves for caving into this nonsense. If Obama or Biden can't spare the time to join in a worthy cause - supporting Israel and standing against Iran's malfeasance, that speaks volumes about their true support and intentions towards Israel and Iran.

It speaks volumes about how these Jewish groups will cave to Democrats' demands at the bat of an eye.

This is a lesson that sadly will not be learned by Jewish voters who have conditioned themselves to reflexively vote D. Absolute stupidity.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Slap a "I'm a Democrat" label on Hitler and he'd receive a majority of the Jewish vote.

(Don't give me any flack, I'm Jewish.)

re: #38 Pyrocles

I doubt the Messiah would lower himself to watch a football game. So much beastly violence.

Well, he might watch a football game if he could tear himself away from admiring himself in his full length mirror.

Whoa, does anyone else have these retro looking + - boxes. Very cool, pretty colors.

Woah very cool Charles, the ding buttons just signaled the coming of Christmas!

re: #149 Perplexed

Why is that the case?

The American Left is pandering to this touchy-feely pacifist crowd in order to get votes. Most Leftists are not against self defense, nor are they against war, and various other issues they pretend to oppose.

The core ideology is one of 'the ends justifies the means', so their protestations against toppling Ba'ath, or taking on Jihadists isn't a condemnation of the means of doing so, in this case war, but of the ends of promoting a democratic, and most importantly Capitalist Iraq with strong national borders. An Islamic Caliphate that eliminates the institutions of Capitalism (usury/interest, the building blocks of modern capital investment are anti-Islamic) that the majority of the worlds economy is driven by, is something that is a net positive to 'The World' in the same way that the Gulags and the Holdomor were perfectly ok. The ideology that motivates most Americans to want to defend America, and its most ardent allies, is one that is antithetical to the American Lefts ideology. The means, any means, are ok to accomplish their goals. It's the ends.

So, the 'why' of the Dems fecklessness in regards to their hard pacifism, is because they want young liberals to vote for them. Given enough time of inculcating the concept of the Dems being a moral authority, it will not matter and the mask can come off. We are already a good way towards this Leninist paradise without any of 'Bourgeoisie virtues', and most Leftists, electorate and pols, believe they walk the moral highroad and that even the murder of their political opponents is ok (see the defense of William Ayers by 'pacifists' as he is of the exact mind that murder is an acceptable means to his ends).

re: #89 Spiritualized

J Street were one of the groups behind this, they're part of the Jewish moonbat "screw Israel" crowd.

I don't think they're even a part of the protest anyway, in fact they're probably on side with the poisonous Iranian dwarf.

"Peace Now" are also listed on the official site, I mean, WTF? How do "Palestinian"-firsters get invited but not Palin?

Ask yourself: Is really going to be a pro-Israel rally or a pro-Obama rally?

re: #114 jester6

Unlike previous elections where the Dems tried to sugar coat their policies, Obama and Biden are pretty much openly calling for EU style socialism in this election.

What does that say about our future that even if he does not win, at least 45% of the population is going to vote for him.

They just don't understand what the consequences will be.

re: #35 Perplexed

Barry would have difficulty in talking. His lips would be firmly attached to Dinner Jacket's posterior in a pose of adulation.

And it might be a tad difficult for him to read a teleprompter in that position, as well.

re: #179 WrathofG-d

She would most likely be speaking or on the stage. She wouldn't be standing among "the people".

I understood that.

re: #201 stuiec

re: #204 AZDave

See post 159 on this thread.

it is my take on WHY DO JEWS VOTE FOR LIBERALS.
(it doesn't deny your arguments at all, in fact I think you guys actually prove my point and add to my argument)

Last time I posted on this very same subject (Dinnerjacket at UN) I only managed to have my post deleted. I'll be a little quieter in my raging opinion this time around. You're either with US or against US. I believe the BO publicly showed which side he is on today. Michelle showed which side she was on September 11, 2008.

You can lead a man to a teleprompter, but you can't make him think.

Ok, I admit I may be biased but I can easily imagine Sarah Palin showing up to this rally and graciously and respectfully shaking Hillary Clinton's hand in front of the crowd, the cameras and whoever else might be watching.

Hillary has once again shown the world what a petty, egotistical, small-minded person she is.

re: #10 Ford_Prefect

An "anti-Iran rally"? Is anyone actually pro-Iran? Besides Iranians I mean.

British Ford -

I am Pro - Persia. "Iran" not so much. That is all.

-S-

Unfortunately, the Jewish community is just as much to blame as the Democrats. Just because they feel political pressure doesn't mean they need to cave into it.

A cesspool everyone can believe in.

re: #218 Globular Cluster

Yeah, yeah...Personally I think that there's plenty of (more than enough) opprobrium to be handed out/passed around and it doesn't just include Democrats or Jews -- it should also include those Christian groups who've decided to give this wanna-be hitlerite a forum. Those who have "invited" this slimeball to the U.S. -- to wine and dine him -- are at least equally (if not more so) culpable. What are they thinking? (assuming that they have "brains.") Do these Christian groups figure that Iran only targets and hangs Jews and homosexuals? Do they realize who it is they're "celebrating?" I guess not; or maybe they just don't care about what happens to people in Iran (or those who are on the "enemies list"). To hell with DinnerJacket, to hell with the Democratic Party; to hell with Obama; and to hell with Clinton -- they are all beneath contempt.

I think that Obama and Biden did not want to appear at the anti-Iran rally, because it would jeopardize their extensive support from the Muslim community.
By the same token, they did not want any prominent Democrat to appear there, especially Hillary Clinton, so they put pressure on her not to appear.
But they also did not want Sarah Palin to appear, because her appearance would draw attention to the absence of Obama, the absence of Biden, and the absence of Hillary Clinton which the Obama people insisted upon. So they pressured the organizers of the rally to disinvite Gov. Palin.
This is really disgraceful. I would have hoped that the organizers would have had more backbone. I received an email from the National Coalition to Stop Iran Now, the umbrella organization for this rally, asking for support for the rally. The participating organizations listed in the email: UJA-Federation of New York (a fundraising organization); Jewish Community Relations Council of New York; United Jewish Communities; Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations; Jewish Council for Public Affairs. I have been a supporter for many years of my local UJA-Federation, wherever I have lived. But no more! I will give to specific charities that appear to be worthwhile, and not trust those morons to give away my money according to their whim. They have already proven that they have no judgment. It is just a terrible disgrace. These organizations should be non-political, and not in the pocket of the Democrat Party nor of Obama. They can ban Sarah Palin if that is their decision, but I will ban them from my pockets. And I hope that others will do the same.

Spot on EE. The Republican Jewish Coalition is a great organization, as is StandWithUs. Forget the UJA and any other "umbrella" organizations. They've grown fat and lazy in their dotage.

re: #213 WrathofG-d

re: #204 AZDave

See post 159 on this thread.

it is my take on WHY DO JEWS VOTE FOR LIBERALS.
(it doesn't deny your arguments at all, in fact I think you guys actually prove my point and add to my argument)

I call secular Jews "placeholder Jews." If they transmit some sense of Jewish identity to their kids (as their parents must have done for them), those kids may at some point rediscover that their heritage includes an actual religion, and may decide to start observing it -- even as much as it angers and pains their secular parents.

re: #15 Nevergiveup

If I lived close enough, I would sure be there with a McCain/Palin sign held high and proudly. It would also have the snarkiest retort to Dems that I could think of.

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

The Democrats are far more eager to "work with" America's enemies than to work with Republicans.

This is is the truth. They are partisan first, American fifth. Second, third and fourth place go to various tribal identities.

A true disgrace invalidating these organizations. Democrat party owns NYC and has ultimate power. You can let know them your opinion but it does not matter. Hillary is to the left of Obama on Israel if that is possible by reason of her opportunist motivation.

re: #219 J.S.

Yeah, yeah...Personally I think that there's plenty of (more than enough) opprobrium to be handed out/passed around and it doesn't just include Democrats or Jews -- it should also include those Christian groups who've decided to give this wanna-be hitlerite a forum. Those who have "invited" this slimeball to the U.S. -- to wine and dine him -- are at least equally (if not more so) culpable. What are they thinking? (assuming that they have "brains.") Do these Christian groups figure that Iran only targets and hangs Jews and homosexuals? Do they realize who it is they're "celebrating?" I guess not; or maybe they just don't care about what happens to people in Iran (or those who are on the "enemies list"). To hell with DinnerJacket, to hell with the Democratic Party; to hell with Obama; and to hell with Clinton -- they are all beneath contempt.

It is "self-comforting behavior," as the therapists say. Nice euphemism, eh?
See--no monster in the room. See--enlightened people like us know how to soothe matters. See--watch as we display and preen before you as wise ones, peace makers with deep insight. No monster here, we are one, in unity and dialogue.

Several payoffs there. Most underrated film of all time: Interview with a Vampire

re: #3 Sharmuta

McCain: Country First

0bama: Party First

Party First = Country First for Democrats: What's good for the Democratic Party is is Good for America.

They actually believe that, it is how they can look in the mirror each day after abandoning all other loyalties.