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Open | Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:37:44 am PDT

We are here on earth to do good to others. What the others are here for, I do not know.

Matthew Arnold

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1 Dustyvet  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:39:18am

Wolf cookies!

2 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:39:35am

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I read that somewhere. I think it applies to us all.

3 Dustyvet  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:40:25am

re: #2 Cap'n DOC

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I read that somewhere. I think it applies to us all.

Do unto others, then split?

4 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:40:28am

Rush is saying that one of obambi's biggest fundraisers is hosting a reception for dinnerjacket in NYC.

5 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:40:45am

Ahhh....fresh air.

6 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:40:45am

Do unto others, first.

7 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:41:32am

re: #3 Dustyvet

Do unto others, then split?

I think run like hell is more apt.

8 Dustyvet  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:41:50am

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

Rush is saying that one of obambi's biggest fundraisers is hosting a reception for dinnerjacket in NYC.

That figures...

9 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:41:58am
We are here on earth to do good to others. What the others are here for, I do not know.

Sometimes I think it's to screw me out of every single freakin' dime in taxes.

10 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:42:21am

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

Rush is saying that one of obambi's biggest fundraisers is hosting a reception for dinnerjacket in NYC.

Why am I not suprised. Some of Obama's biggest backers and friends were also supporters of Saddam Hussein.

11 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:42:34am

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

Rush is saying that one of obambi's biggest fundraisers is hosting a reception for dinnerjacket in NYC.

WHAT?

12 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:42:36am

Very good news: The Gang of Umpteen has abandoned their efforts to push the sham energy bill through the Senate. I hope my emails to two of the Gangsters helped.

13 KibbyKat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:42:41am

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

Rush is saying that one of obambi's biggest fundraisers is hosting a reception for dinnerjacket in NYC.

Shocking.

14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:42:53am

Be courteous, professional and prepared to kill everyone you meet at a moment's notice.

15 pink freud  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:42:54am

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

Rush is saying that one of obambi's biggest fundraisers is hosting a reception for dinnerjacket in NYC.

One "Penny Pritzker", Hyatt empire heiress.

16 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:42:59am

Now Rush says that 20 Black protesters were pulled out of an obambi rally.

17 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:43:02am

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

Rush is saying that one of obambi's biggest fundraisers is hosting a reception for dinnerjacket in NYC.

Pritzker, the Hyatt hotel family. Trustees of the University of Chicago, Poli Sci Department is in Pritzker Hall, deep into promoting Ayers and Dohrn and Obama.

18 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:43:39am
19 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:43:43am

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

Rush is saying that one of obambi's biggest fundraisers is hosting a reception for dinnerjacket in NYC.

You have got to be kidding me. Fundraising with a dictator whose stated goal is to destroy our country and Israel? There has got to be a law against that.

20 KibbyKat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:44:07am

re: #16 newsjunkie_ky

Now Rush says that 20 Black protesters were pulled out of an obambi rally.

I'm not near a radio, did you happen to hear what city the rally was held in?

21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:44:22am

re: #12 doppelganglander

Very good news: The Gang of Umpteen has abandoned their efforts to push the sham energy bill through the Senate. I hope my emails to two of the Gangsters helped.

They must be too busy buying out crooked businesses using responsible peoples taxes to see it thru.

22 pink freud  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:44:34am

re: #15 pink freud

One "Penny Pritzker", Hyatt empire heiress.

Rush is saying the event will be held at the Grand Central Hyatt. Pritzker is the woman who organized the 25K/ a plate dinner with Streisand.

23 JeremiahRight  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:44:36am

Do unto others, before they can do unto you.

24 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:44:52am

re: #15 pink freud

One "Penny Pritzker", Hyatt empire heiress.

Too bad Paris Hilton's squandered her credibility.

25 Junior  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:45:43am

re: #20 KibbyKat

Coral Gables

26 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:45:46am

re: #11 MandyManners

WHAT?

uh oh, here comes "Gramscian Whore of the Caliphate"!

27 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:45:47am

Rush is going nuts

28 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:45:47am

re: #24 MandyManners

Too bad Paris Hilton's squandered her credibility.

When did she have that?

29 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:45:51am

re: #11 MandyManners

That Penny Picster (or whatever her name is) heiress to Hyatt fortune that put on the recent big fundraiser in hollyweird is hosting a reception. He says he has heard it from 3 sources.
Now he is discussing the sandra barnhard 'big Black brothers raping Sarah remark'.

30 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:46:12am

The joke is so funny but I can't tell it?

31 Dustyvet  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:46:14am

re: #19 doppelganglander

You have got to be kidding me. Fundraising with a dictator whose stated goal is to destroy our country and Israel? There has got to be a law against that.

I think there is, I seem to remember something called TREASON, or was it SEDITION?

32 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:46:21am

re: #22 pink freud

Rush is saying the event will be held at the Grand Central Hyatt. Pritzker is the woman who organized the 25K/ a plate dinner with Streisand.

The McCain/Palin campaign needs to do a series of ads about this.

33 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:46:44am
' Katie Couric has a campaign-trail day in the life of Senator Biden, who says about debating Gov. Palin: 'It's kind of hard to prepare, because I don't know what she thinks.'


From my morning Politico email update. This is going to be soooo much fun, watching Biden debate Palin... which it was first.

34 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:46:50am

re: #17 lifeofthemind
Thanks for further info.

35 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:47:03am

re: #16 newsjunkie_ky

I could make a "Sorry - No Fried Chicken" comment, but I'll refrain.

36 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:47:04am

re: #26 pre-Boomer Marine brat

GRAMSCIAN WHORES OF THE CALIPHATE!

37 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:47:21am

re: #28 Sharmuta

When did she have that?

When she was born?

38 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:47:47am

Penny Pritzker Parties without Preconditions with Persia's Politico...for benefit glorious democrat undermining USA/troops/Iraq effort.

39 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:47:48am

re: #36 MandyManners

GRAMSCIAN WHORES OF THE CALIPHATE!

Thank you.
I'm been feeling sensory deprivation of late.

40 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:47:52am

re: #20 KibbyKat

Miami? it is on cnn, according to Rush.

41 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:47:54am

re: #17 lifeofthemind

Shut UP. Are you serious?
Surely this one will end up under the bus asap......

42 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:48:19am

re: #19 doppelganglander

You have got to be kidding me. Fundraising with a dictator whose stated goal is to destroy our country and Israel? There has got to be a law against that.

Or at a minimum a rapidly put together R-527 commercial showcasing Pritzker's connection to Barry.

43 JeremiahRight  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:48:20am

re: #31 Dustyvet

I think there is, I seem to remember something called TREASON, or was it SEDITION?

Trying people for sedition didn't fly even during John Adams' administration. Good luck pulling that off today.

44 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:48:34am

re: #39 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Thank you.
I'm been feeling sensory deprivation of late.

Mandy, ... my sides are hurting from laughing so hard!

45 Junior  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:49:21am

re: #33 tradewind

Do you know the debate schedule? What is it?

46 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:49:27am

re: #19 doppelganglander

You have got to be kidding me. Fundraising with a dictator whose stated goal is to destroy our country and Israel? There has got to be a law against that.

* * * *
Regular Americans don't need special laws to tell them not to party with enemy combatants.

Liberals don't follow the current laws against treason anyway.

47 Irene NYC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:49:46am

Didn't Penny grow up in Iran? I'll go check.

48 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:49:56am

re: #28 Sharmuta

When did she have that?

Theoretically, at least, as a new-born.

49 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:50:03am

re: #12 doppelganglander

That is good news. Now we need to just hold on, and let the Moratorium expire. Then Drill Here, Drill Now!

50 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:50:47am

I still wanna know if Billy Ayers' ring came from Sen. McCain's left wing.

51 Sheldon  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:50:59am

# 2
I thought it's " Do others before they do You"

52 Salem  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:51:11am

Obomba just said that women are the backbone of the country. But not the backbone of your ticket, right Barry? LOL!

53 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:51:19am

re: #45 Junior

Not for the veeps, but the first real debate is down here next Friday on Ole Miss campus.
Should be a nice opportunity for Obama to play the race card.

54 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:51:30am

re: #42 unrealizedviewpoint

Or at a minimum a rapidly put together R-527 commercial showcasing Pritzker's connection to Barry.

I'm sure that will happen, and Obama will be forced to decline the money. (For an image of the pain this will cause him, picture Jack Benny being mugged.) Once Rush has put it out there, it's not going away.

55 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:51:56am

re: #15 pink freud

One "Penny Pritzker", Hyatt empire heiress.

Ah yes, Penny Pritzker, one of Chicago's wealthier citizens.

Barack Obama was in Chicago at the time of the Superior Bank failure & has full knowledge of what went on and the cause of the collapse.

The Pritzkers, one of the nation’s wealthiest families and heirs to the fortune created by the Hyatt hotels, agreed today to pay a record $460 million to the federal government to avoid being punished for the failure of Superior Bank F.S.B., the big savings and loan institution that regulators seized last summer.

Federal officials said the payment, which will be spread out over 15 years, is the largest settlement ever in the failure of a banking institution. The failure itself is one of the largest in the last decade, one that some estimate could cost the government up to $1 billion.

Unbelievable isn’t it? The failure of Superior Bank, based in Hinsdale, cost the F.D.I.C. about $700 million, making it one of the largest federally insured financial institutions to fail in a decade. Regulators said Superior had collapsed because of poor lending practices and sloppy bookkeeping.

One of the unfortunate victims who suffered as a result of the poor lending practices at the hands of the Pritzker family was Fran Sweet, who was written about in the In These Times in 2002 (emphasis and italicized comments added):

Meanwhile, roughly 1,000 depositors who had deposits above $100,000 in a Superior account—money above the FDIC-insured limit—lost about $65 million. Most of them were middle-class individuals, attracted by Superior’s high interest rates. [Ed. note: it is presence of FDIC itself that allows unsound banks to offer high interest rates like this.] In the three months just before the bank was closed, there was a surge of $9.6 million in uninsured deposits. Since about 54 percent of the uninsured money has since been repaid as Superior was sold off, the depositors have still collectively lost about $30 million. (That just happens to be the amount that the Pritzkers gave to the University of Chicago’s Pritzker School of Medicine earlier this year.)

But wait, there's more!

Obama's subprime pal

But a letter obtained by the Chicago Sun-Times shows that until the end, Pritzker appeared to be taking a leadership role in trying to revive the bank with an expanded push into subprime loans.

Pritzker wrote in May 2001 that her family was recapitalizing the bank, and she pledged to "once again restore Superior's leadership position in subprime lending." The bank shut down in July 2001.

Pritzker's attorney Kevin Poorman and Obama's campaign spokesman emphasized that not all "subprime lending" is the "predatory" kind that Obama and White House rival Hillary Clinton rail against. The kind of subprime lending Superior was doing in 2001 was not predatory, Poorman said.

But at least some of the 1,400 victims who are still owed money seven years after the bank failed say Pritzker is the wrong person for Obama to put in charge of the campaign's finances when part of his campaign is about reforming the banking industry.

Penny has been devoting her time, energy and money into making sure Barack Obama is foisted upon us elected.

56 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:52:00am

Rush now sez that the Quakers and the Minnonites (sp) are the ones that invited dinnerjacke.

57 DaddyO  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:52:06am

Sept 19th

Arrrh, happy Talk Like a Pirate Day mateys !

58 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:52:15am

re: #52 Salem
No wonder he's in trouble, he's spineless.

59 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:52:52am

Another pretty Penny tie to Obamabi, and Ayers....Currently she is vice chair[4][5] of the Chicago Public Education Fund, the successor organization to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

60 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:52:56am

Rush says it's being held at the Grand Hyatt, but there is no evidence (yet) that Penny Pritzker knew about it.

61 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:53:09am

re: #56 newsjunkie_ky

They only want him for his beard.

62 pink freud  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:53:09am

Rush:

Quakers and Mennonites invited Ahmadinejad to the meeting at Grand Central Hyatt. Pritzker did not.

/?

63 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:53:13am

re: #15 pink freud

One "Penny Pritzker", Hyatt empire heiress.

what is with these stupid heirs and heiresses who have no clue about the real world wanting to be such idiots.

With that kind of money you'd think she/he could actually afford an excellent education and be able to discern good from evil.

64 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:53:18am

re: #46 alegrias

Liberals don't follow the current laws against treason anyway.

semi-OT ... whattcha wanna bet that Jane Fonda has, or doesn't have, a scrapbook of photos taken in North Vietnam?

65 cathypop  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:53:54am

Michelle Malkin has an article about Nobama telling his peeps to get in the face of your neighbors who do not agree with Nobama. Does this mean I finally get to use my nine iron golf club?

66 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:53:55am

re: #60 doppelganglander

Rush says it's being held at the Grand Hyatt, but there is no evidence (yet) that Penny Pritzker knew about it.

I say bullshit. Penny's been in this up to her eyeballs.

67 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:54:22am

re: #18 buzzsawmonkey

Community: Life is good.

Community organizer: Life stinks! You're miserable!

Community: No, we're fine.

Community organizer: No, you're wrong. You have grievances, like [grievance], [grievance], and [grievance].

Community: By golly, we never thought of it that way before. You're right! BIG [GRIEVANCE] IS RIPPING US OFF! Boy, are we pissed!

Community organizer: Well, you know, you could do something about that...

Community: We could? What? Tell us! Boy, are we pissed!

Community organizer: Well, you know, [grievance] is all [target]'s fault. You could attack [target].

Community: Yes! Yes! Down with [target]!

Community organizer: Heh.

Pure Alinsky... the masses have to be unhappy enough with their situation to follow your desire for change.

Note that their situation need not actually be bad, you just must convince them so they think it is.

68 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:54:22am

re: #19 doppelganglander

You have got to be kidding me. Fundraising with a dictator whose stated goal is to destroy our country and Israel? There has got to be a law against that.


The most disturbing part here , is that Penny Pritzker is Jewish.

69 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:54:33am

re: #47 Irene NYC

Didn't Penny grow up in Iran? I'll go check.

* * *
Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett (sp?) grew up in Iran while her dad was stationed there, according to Fox News yesterday.

She's slated to be Chief of Staff in an obama administration...

70 pink freud  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:54:37am

re: #63 Eowyn2

"afford an excellent education "

Think about standard academia fare of today. Maybe she did.

71 Dustyvet  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:54:38am

re: #57 DaddyO

Sept 19th

Arrrh, happy Talk Like a Pirate Day mateys !

A pirate comes back to his ship with both of his ears pierced. Another pirate without any ear rings says "Where did you get those ear rings?"

The first pirate replies:

"Me matie I was at the mall and they had a special, they were a "Buck an Ear!"

YARRRRRRRR!

72 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:55:26am

re: #29 newsjunkie_ky

That Penny Picster (or whatever her name is) heiress to Hyatt fortune that put on the recent big fundraiser in hollyweird is hosting a reception. He says he has heard it from 3 sources.
Now he is discussing the sandra barnhard 'big Black brothers raping Sarah remark'.

it sounds like something that stupid bitch would say. She really is an ignorant piece of trash.

73 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:55:53am

re: #66 Honorary Yooper

I say bullshit. Penny's been in this up to her eyeballs.

I tend to agree. Obviously she doesn't oversee the renting of every Hyatt Hotel ballroom, but if this is a fundraiser for Obama, she knows exactly what's going on. And on a side note, what the hell is wrong with the Quakers and Mennonites? Since when does being peace-loving include helping your enemies who want to kill you?

74 jamgarr  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:55:57am

re: #53 tradewind

Not for the veeps, but the first real debate is down here next Friday on Ole Miss campus.
Should be a nice opportunity for Obama to play the race card.

Wish I could come - go over to the Ajax and have some crawfish pie and fried pickles!

75 GGMac  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:56:11am

re: #18 buzzsawmonkey

Hi, buzzsaw - posted this poem on the now dead thread. The poem you posted reminded of this one. It's long been my favorite example of someone putting into words that which can't be put into words.

I am gentler now, who once demanded
All of life enwoven in one mesh,
For I have known your love in fragile hours,
Felt your eyes upon my willing flesh,
Had you bend and softly prison me within your arms.
I have known it clear as final shadows sank
The pillowed room.
None of life was life but what was here; and weakened, gentler now for
having loved,
I mark how subtle is the senses freeing when spun into a moments
miracle,
and used tenderly to solve the fact of being.

(For I have known your love, by Elizabeth Grahm)

76 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:56:30am

re: #56 newsjunkie_ky

Rush now sez that the Quakers and the Minnonites (sp) are the ones that invited dinnerjacke.

Huh?

77 Junior  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:56:30am

re: #53 tradewind

Thanks - I'm pretty sure the first VP debate is the first week of October... the 3rd I think?... (which would suck cause thats a Friday)

78 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:56:43am

Schoolboy terrorist Hammad Munshi locked up for two years after bomb guide is found in his bedroom


Britain's youngest convicted terrorist was locked up for two years this morning after plans to cause death and destruction were found hidden in his bedroom.

Hammaad Munshi was just 15 when he was recruited into a worldwide plot to wipe out non-Muslims and longed to become a ‘martyr’.

Munshi, a GCSE student and grandson of a leading Islamic scholar, led a double life, obediently attending school by day and surfing jihadist websites at night.

He was part of a cell of cyber-groomers devoted to brainwashing vulnerable Muslims into killing ‘kuffar’, or non-believers.

I guess his grandfather forgot to tell him about the ROP...

79 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:57:03am
80 Salem  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:57:22am

re: #58 tradewind

No wonder he's in trouble, he's spineless.

I just don't know how he thinks he's going to say something like that without plugging for McCain.

81 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:57:33am

re: #64 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Let's not even go there...

82 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:57:50am

Okay, I'll ask one more time and then drop it.

Does anyone know why the Cox and Forkum graphic was removed from the frontpage?

83 pink freud  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:57:52am

OT/

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[Link: www.giveawayoftheday.com...]

84 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:57:54am

re: #41 tradewind

Shut UP. Are you serious?
Surely this one will end up under the bus asap......

Correction it is the Medical School named for the Pritzkers, Poly Sci is in Pick, that has a hammer and sickle in front.

85 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:58:28am

Can one crack a rib from coughing?

86 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:59:06am
87 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:59:09am

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

Can one crack a rib from coughing?

Yes

88 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:59:11am

re: #63 Eowyn2

what is with these stupid heirs and heiresses who have no clue about the real world wanting to be such idiots.

With that kind of money you'd think she/he could actually afford an excellent education and be able to discern good from evil.

They are born with a sense of overwhelming guilt which stems from their plight of being born wealthy. So they need overcompensate, hence they go liberal, never able to see nor hear a conservative viewpoint.

89 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:59:28am

re: #41 tradewind

Shut UP. Are you serious?
Surely this one will end up under the bus asap......

Nope. She's one of the ones funding The One, The Big Zero.

90 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:59:54am

re: #56 newsjunkie_ky

Rush now sez that the Quakers and the Minnonites (sp) are the ones that invited dinnerjacke.

foolishness.
i'm getting a headache.

91 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:59:59am

re: #73 doppelganglander

I tend to agree. Obviously she doesn't oversee the renting of every Hyatt Hotel ballroom, but if this is a fundraiser for Obama, she knows exactly what's going on. And on a side note, what the hell is wrong with the Quakers and Mennonites? Since when does being peace-loving include helping your enemies who want to kill you?

Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) has been up to their eyeballs in that kind of stuff for a long time. They shipped a lot of "aid" to N. Vietnam during that war.

92 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:00:04am

re: #63 Eowyn2

what is with these stupid heirs and heiresses who have no clue about the real world wanting to be such idiots.

With that kind of money you'd think she/he could actually afford an excellent education and be able to discern good from evil.

Rockefeller actually instituted a system that protected his money and helped his family. From what I understand, at least in the recent past, a Rockefeller family member received educational opportunities, and, if they did well, was offered a position in the family trust. Those that did not or could not make the grade were culled and basically handed (relatively)small pensions.

This system of winnowing the successors means you seldom see news about a Rockefeller.

The Hiltons are a grand example of what goes wrong. Grandpa built the business, Dad appears to have come up in it and understand it, but the Paris generation was treated to the success only, not the labor.

93 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:00:07am

re: #87 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thanks, I think I have. whew, it hurts.

94 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:00:18am

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

Can one crack a rib from coughing?

Absolutely.

95 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:00:20am

re: #75 GGMac

That's lovely. I added it to my favorites - first time I ever used that feature.

96 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:00:26am

re: #65 cathypop

I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face," he said.


Same speech where he said ' I'm skinny but I'm tough'.
And I'm thinking yeah, banty rooster.... that's your animal right there....

97 Irene NYC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:00:40am

re: #47 Irene NYC

Didn't Penny grow up in Iran? I'll go check.


Nope, I got that wrong, it was Valerie Jarrett, another top Obama adviser. Here's a good clip from O'Reilly about Penny, Valerie, Sugar, BettyLu, etc. Click on "Politics" on the left and then "The Obama Chronicles: Part 3 Barack Obama's Mentors" on the right.

98 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:00:48am

re: #65 cathypop

Michelle Malkin has an article about Nobama telling his peeps to get in the face of your neighbors who do not agree with Nobama....

Really? They are actually telling people to do that? Well then, go ahead and make my day...

99 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:08am

re: #81 Cap'n DOC

Let's not even go there...

Oh, I agree (Tonkin Gulf, '63-66), but I just suspect they are close to her heart.

100 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:08am

re: #82 Lizard by the Bay

You'll have to ask Mr. LizardMaster himself.

101 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:22am

re: #90 nyc redneck

foolishness.
i'm getting a headache.

"My brain hurts."

102 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:22am

Later

103 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:28am

re: #93 newsjunkie_ky

more common is to pull or tear a muscle on you ribcage. That hurts too.

104 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:36am

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

Can one crack a rib from coughing?

probably not but sure enough pull a muscle.
that's painful.

105 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:45am

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

Can one crack a rib from coughing?

You can separate a rib, and feels like it's cracked, hurts like a mutherf*&%er

106 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:51am

I've been reading through Lord of the Rings lately ... just skipping around in it, I pretty much know the whole book by heart. Here are two of my favorite passages:

The onset of the Rohirrim on the Pelennor Fields:

Suddenly the king cried to Snowmane, and the horse sprang away. Behind him his banner blew in the wind, white horse upon a field of green, but he outpaced it. After him thundered the knights of his house, but he was ever before them. Eomer rode there, the white horsetail on his helm floating in his speed, and the front of the first eored roared like a breaker foaming to the shore, but Theoden could not be overtaken. Fey he seemed, or the battle-fury of his fathers ran like new fire in his veins, and he was borne up on Snowmane like a god of old, even as Orome the Great in the battle of the Valar when the world was young. His golden shield was uncovered, and lo! It shone like an image of the Sun, and the grass flamed into green about the white feet of his steed. For morning came, morning and a wind from the sea; and darkness was removed, and the hosts of Mordor wailed, and terror took them, and they fled, and died, and the hoofs of wrath rode over them. And then all the host of Rohan burst into song, and they sang as they slew, for the joy of battle was on them, and the sound of their singing that was fair and terrible came even to the City.

Frodo yields to the power of the Ring at the Cracks of Doom:

And far away, as Frodo put on the Ring and claimed it for his own, even in Sammath Naur the very heart of his realm, the Power in Barad-dur was shaken, and the Tower trembled from its foundations to its proud and bitter crown. The Dark Lord was suddenly aware of him, and his Eye piercing all shadows looked across the plain to the door that he had made; and the magnitude of his own folly was revealed to him in a blinding flash, and all the devices of his enemies were at last laid bare. Then his wrath blazed in consuming flame, but his fear rose like a vast black smoke to choke him. For he knew his deadly peril and the thread upon which his doom now hung.

From all his policies and webs of fear and treachery, from all his stratagems and wars his mind shook free; and throughout his realm a tremor ran, and his slaves quailed, and his armies halted, and his captains suddenly steerless, bereft of will, wavered and despaired. For they were forgotten. The whole mind and purpose of the Power that wielded them was now bent with overwhelming force upon the Mountain. At his summons, wheeling with a rending cry, in a last desperate race there flew, faster than the winds, the Nazgul, the Ringwraiths, and with a storm of wings they hurtled southwards to Mount Doom.

107 vxbush  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:02:01am

I have a friend who is a Mennonite, and he somehow talked to a guy where I used to work ages ago to go to the Palestinian territories and complain to Israel about it's "policies" (spit). He thought he was a great success, but all he did was earn a flag on his name. He can never enter Israel again.

His loss.

While I like several of Mennonites I know, I also know they take their peace ideas to a complete extreme.

108 Irene NYC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:02:35am

re: #69 alegrias

Yes, thank you for the correction.
;)

109 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:02:36am

re: #103 Kenneth
Thanks, I know there is nothing you can do for either injury but let it heal.

110 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:03:05am

re: #105 jcm

You can separate a rib, and feels like it's cracked, hurts like a mutherf*&%er

Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier with 3 cracked ribs from being thrown from a horse the day before.

111 Salem  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:04:28am

re: #29 newsjunkie_ky

Now he is discussing the sandra barnhard 'big Black brothers raping Sarah remark'.

Wha? I thought Sandra Bernhard was dead....

112 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:04:29am

re: #105 jcm

You can absolutely break a rib from coughing.... did it while six months pregnant, and it was not pretty....

113 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:05:09am

re: #99 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes, I know. We should all be good little Commies since Jane says so.

114 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:05:31am

re: #111 Salem

That is just so illustrative of the far-left moonbat /perv mind that Obama was playing to at the Hollywood fundraiser. I hope it gets lots of press.

115 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:05:35am
116 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:05:37am

re: #71 Dustyvet

A pirate comes back to his ship with both of his ears pierced. Another pirate without any ear rings says "Where did you get those ear rings?"

The first pirate replies:

"Me matie I was at the mall and they had a special, they were a "Buck an Ear!"

YARRRRRRRR!


Yaaar, good one that.
A little boy is trick or treating. Rings the bell & the woman answering says"What are you supposed to be?" He answers, "I'm a pirate"
The woman smiles & says, "If your a pirate, wheres your buccaneer."
The kid says, "My buccaneer is under my bucan hat. Now I said Trick or Treat."

117 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:05:41am

Changing the subject, NRO has a terrific new article from Bill Whittle:
The Undefended City

118 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:06:18am

re: #110 Tigger2005

Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier with 3 cracked ribs from being thrown from a horse the day before.

On the 50th anniversary of that day he did it again driving a F-15 (without the broken ribs).

119 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:07:12am

re: #83 pink freud

OT/

One day offer for free download, PDF to Word Converter

[Link: www.giveawayoftheday.com...]

What a great program. Thanks!
I needed this bigtime last week.
I OCR'd everything (80 pages) then reformatted.
What a job.

120 elevenbravo1969  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:07:47am

re: #82 Lizard by the Bay

I don't know why...but I don't miss it. I never could figure out who those two guys were supposed to be or what they were doing. I like C&F but that one went over my head.

121 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:07:50am

re: #62 pink freud

Rush:

Quakers and Mennonites invited Ahmadinejad to the meeting at Grand Central Hyatt. Pritzker did not.

/?

I posted this on the thread below. From Free Republic:

Courtesy of new General Assembly President Miguel D’Escoto, who is Nicaragua’s foreign minister, and a coalition of left-wing American Christian groups, he will be the guest of honor at a private iftar dinner to celebrate the end of Ramadan. The September 25 event at the Grand Hyatt Hotel has all the trappings of a Cold War solidarity event. Joining D’Escoto as hosts are some companeros from the former Catholic priest’s Sandinista days: The World Council of Churches, the American Friends Service Committee, the Mennonites, and the US section of the World Conference of Religions for Peace.

122 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:08:23am

re: #115 buzzsawmonkey

Not Sara Bernhardt,.... the big mouthed lesbian comic, Sandra Bernhard.
One with talent, one with none.

123 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:08:48am

re: #122 tradewind

Not Sara Bernhardt,.... the big mouthed lesbian comic, Sandra Bernhard.
One with talent, one with none.

Sandra Blowhard.

124 pink freud  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:09:24am

re: #119 unrealizedviewpoint

You're welcome! Just downloaded it myself, haven't had a chance to check it out yet.

125 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:09:56am

re: #123 Tigger2005

Thanks, I'll try to get that mental picture out of my mind before lunch......

126 NC State of Mind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:11:13am

re: #124 pink
freud

Is this a limited trial version or complete?

127 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:11:29am

Watch this video, second one down on the page,

Gianna Jesson on Hannity & Colmes

It's sickening to listen to that worm Colmes defend Obama on this. Un-fricken-believable!

128 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:11:44am

Penny Pritzker is the national finance committee chair for Obama campaign

LA times

129 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:11:59am

Hah!

Rush just pointed out - 0bama did not protest when the WaPo mentioned Raines - but he is protesting now that McCain mentions it.

130 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:12:18am

re: #129 Racer X

Hah!

Rush just pointed out - 0bama did not protest when the WaPo mentioned Raines - but he is protesting now that McCain mentions it.

IT'S RACIST! ! !

131 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:12:22am
132 Dave the.....  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:13:06am
The World Council of Churches, the American Friends Service Committee, the Mennonites, and the US section of the World Conference of Religions for Peace.

If your church belongs to the WCC, or NCC, then you might be an anti-Semitic moonbat.

133 pink freud  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:13:22am

re: #126 NC State of Mind

Looks complete. If you read the comments section, you will find links to several other full-service programs. The comments are very helpful.

134 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:13:23am

re: #130 redstateredneck

IT'S RACIST! ! !

I did not know Raines was black until Rush just mentioned it. Doesn't matter.

135 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:13:26am

obama is across btw a weasel and a snake.

136 kansas  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:13:27am

re: #2 Cap'n DOC

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I read that somewhere. I think it applies to us all.


Do unto others before they do unto you. I read that somewhere.

137 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:13:37am

re: #131 buzzsawmonkey

In long form, he is saying what I observed last night; that this election is a battle between the values of the frontier, and those who hold that the values of the frontier, if they were ever a necessity, were at best an evil necessity which we have long outgrown.

Haven't read it yet, but Bill Whittle is generally spot on.

138 Dave the.....  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:14:14am
Watch this video, second one down on the page,

Gianna Jesson on Hannity & Colmes

It's sickening to listen to that worm Colmes defend Obama on this. Un-fricken-believable!

National Review Online says Obama has an ad out in response....he call her a "liar". And also says J-Mac will ban all abortions (what power he must have).

139 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:14:42am

The top four lawmakers who received campaign contributions from Lehman Brothers employees:

Hillary Clinton $409,980
Barack Obama $395,574
Charles Schumer $181,450
Christopher Dodd $165,800

__________________

Didn't the Lehman Brothers go broke?

140 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:14:55am
141 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:15:07am

re: #132 Dave the.....

If your church belongs to the WCC, or NCC, then you might be an anti-Semitic moonbat.

List of churches belonging to WCC on right sidebar.

A lot of mainstream (mine included) denominations belong, sadly.

142 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:15:39am

re: #139 Dustoff-507

The top four lawmakers who received campaign contributions from Lehman Brothers employees:

Hillary Clinton $409,980
Barack Obama $395,574
Charles Schumer $181,450
Christopher Dodd $165,800

__________________

Didn't the Lehman Brothers go broke?

Filed for Chapter 11 protection. They get to garner their assets, liquidate them according to an orderly plan, and pay off creditors according to certain classes

143 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:15:55am

re: #136 kansas

Oh, sure. Steal my thunder from me. ;o)

144 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:17:24am

re: #120 elevenbravo1969

I don't know why...but I don't miss it. I never could figure out who those two guys were supposed to be or what they were doing. I like C&F but that one went over my head.

It was a moonbat in the arms of a jihadi both about to be squished by the giant football. What's not to like?

145 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:17:33am

re: #142 Creeping Eruption


Yikes... Washington state employees retirement is with them! 0-:

146 wright1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:18:30am

The golf balls or all lined up on their tees, McCain merely needs to take out his driver and start whak'in



re: #142 Creeping Eruption

Filed for Chapter 11 protection. They get to garner their assets, liquidate them according to an orderly plan, and pay off creditors according to certain classes

147 Alouette  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:19:39am

re: #68 opnion

The most disturbing part here , is that Penny Pritzker is Jewish.

Unless she belongs to the nutbag Neturei Karta, these type of "Jews" have nothing to do with Judaism, except that they hate it.

148 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:19:39am

re: #135 nyc redneck

obama is across btw a weasel and a snake.

A sneasel?

149 NC State of Mind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:20:04am

Video: Blacks Against Obama interrup Obama rally

I cannot believe their overt racism!

/

150 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:20:10am

I hate to be the one throwing a wet blanket on Matthew Arnold's "We are here on earth to do good to others. What the others are here for, I do not know."

There is a counter to it.

The basic principle of altruism is that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that service to others is the only justification of his existence, and that self-sacrifice is his highest moral duty, virtue and value. Do not confuse altruism with kindness, good will or respect for the rights of others. These are not primaries, but consequences, which, in fact, altruism makes impossible. The irreducible primary of altruism, the basic absolute is self-sacrifice -- which means: self-immolation, self-abnegation, self-denial, self-destruction -- which means: the self as a standard of evil, the selfless as a standard of the good.
--Ayn Rand, Philosophy: Who Needs It (1982)

151 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:20:22am

re: #75 GGMac

That is just lovely.

152 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:21:15am
153 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:21:55am

re: #82 Lizard by the Bay

Okay, I'll ask one more time and then drop it.

Does anyone know why the Cox and Forkum graphic was removed from the frontpage?

Not sure, but I've been waiting for something to fill that space.

154 wright1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:22:01am

In fact, if McCain was smart, whenever Obama and his surrogates start playing the "race card", he should declare from the rooftops, we will not let what happened to Bill & Hillary Clinton, namely, falsely accusing them that they were running a rascist campaign happen here!

155 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:23:05am

re: #149 NC State of Mind

Video: Blacks Against Obama interrup Obama rally

I cannot believe their overt racism!

/


Ha!
Teleprompter man still reading his message.

156 Dustyvet  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:23:13am

re: #86 Kenneth

Breaking: Obama's email hacked!

It's an inside job...nothing more.

157 XMarine  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:23:44am

Definition of LIBERAL according to Webster:
Not bound by orthodox tenets or established forms in
political or religious philosophy; independent in opinion;
not conservative; friendly to great freedom in the
constitution or administration of government; having
tendency toward democratic or republican, as distinguished
from monarchical or aristocratic, forms ...

Now, those people we call "Liberals" are definitely bound by their leftist philosophy and are manifestly unfriendly to freedom in both government and ideology.

Re: #46
Regular Americans don't need special laws to tell them not to party with enemy combatants.

Liberals Leftists don't follow the current laws against treason anyway.

Fixed it for you, and best regards to you, alegrias.

158 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:23:51am

re: #149 NC State of Mind

Video: Blacks Against Obama interrup Obama rally

I cannot believe their overt racism!

/

Dow up 448 in the corner. Too funny.

159 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:23:52am

re: #55 Honorary Yooper

Penny has been devoting her time, energy and money into making sure Barack Obama is foisted upon us elected.

I'm sending those to everyone I know.

160 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:24:01am

re: #145 Dustoff-507

Yikes... Washington state employees retirement is with them! 0-:

My version is very simplistic. So much depends on so many things, I would wait to be worried.

161 jill e  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:25:15am

What do we live for, if not to make life less difficult for each other? —George Eliot

162 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:25:40am

re: #88 unrealizedviewpoint

They are born with a sense of overwhelming guilt which stems from their plight of being born wealthy. So they need overcompensate, hence they go liberal, never able to see nor hear a conservative viewpoint.

It's so stupid, because that wealth can be put into innovation and create new jobs. Imagine what Bin Laden could have done if his wealth had been invested in free enterprise.

163 TheMatrix31  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:25:45am

Please stop saying "my friends". Please?

164 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:25:56am

Can't a brother get a break?

165 Gearhead  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:27:12am

re: #149 NC State of Mind

Video: Blacks Against Obama interrup Obama rally

I cannot believe their overt racism!

/

"Lets get back to work. Settle down everybody, lets get back to work." "Hey folks, can't I just finish my waffling?"

166 PAgirlinNC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:27:58am

re: #149 NC State of Mind

At the RNC the crowd cheered "U-S-A" when interrupted by the nutcases. At an Obama rally they chant "Yes-We-Can." I think that about says it all....

167 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:29:00am

re: #156 Dustyvet

LOL. Michelle - pick up eggs on the way back from the ME. You're rotten.

168 Gearhead  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:29:22am
We are here on earth to do good to others.

Does helping to register Republican voters count?

169 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:29:54am

Liberal friend just had a comment on the loan fiasco.

Privatize the Profits
Socialize the costs.

He got that one right.

170 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:30:14am

re: #117 doppelganglander

Changing the subject, NRO has a terrific new article from Bill Whittle:
The Undefended City

That is indeed terrific!
Sent shivers down my spine - thanks for the link!

171 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:30:17am

re: #160 Creeping Eruption


Not worried. I'm not part of them. But our DEM gov in WA needs to speak up. (-:

172 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:30:56am

re: #122 tradewind

Not Sara Bernhardt,.... the big mouthed lesbian comic, Sandra Bernhard.
One with talent, one with none.

What did she say?

173 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:31:02am

re: #169 jcm

Liberal friend just had a comment on the loan fiasco.

Privatize the Profits
Socialize the costs.

He got that one right.

Was he making an observation or a recommendation?

174 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:31:21am

Missing email in the Onion Obama inbox spoof:

JWright: Hey man, when can I come back? Hiding out in Africa is a bummer.

175 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:31:48am

re: #150 Syrah

I hate to be the one throwing a wet blanket on Matthew Arnold's "We are here on earth to do good to others. What the others are here for, I do not know."

There is a counter to it.

The basic principle of altruism is that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that service to others is the only justification of his existence, and that self-sacrifice is his highest moral duty, virtue and value. Do not confuse altruism with kindness, good will or respect for the rights of others. These are not primaries, but consequences, which, in fact, altruism makes impossible. The irreducible primary of altruism, the basic absolute is self-sacrifice -- which means: self-immolation, self-abnegation, self-denial, self-destruction -- which means: the self as a standard of evil, the selfless as a standard of the good.
--Ayn Rand, Philosophy: Who Needs It (1982)


My view is, people should be left alone to do what they want with their lives as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others. You want to make a lot of money and keep it for yourself? Cool. You want to spend your life as an impoverished monk? Great! You prefer something in between those extremes? Excellent. Let's just quit judging the way people choose to live their lives as long as they aren't doing undue harm to others or breaking laws or sponging off the public.

176 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:32:09am

re: #162 debutaunt

I read somewhere the other day (can't remember where) that
college students
academics
journalists
trust fund babies
40 year olds in mama's garage

all have one thing in common. They are all well-insulated from reality, so they are inclined to see the world in idealistic terms.

177 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:33:16am

re: #173 Syrah

Was he making an observation or a recommendation?

Observation, that's what made my jaw drop.

Maybe he's starting to see some light.

178 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:33:54am

re: #120 elevenbravo1969

I don't know why...but I don't miss it. I never could figure out who those two guys were supposed to be or what they were doing. I like C&F but that one went over my head.

A moonbat and a terrorist go into a bar...

179 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:34:04am

re: #175 Tigger2005

My view is, people should be left alone to do what they want with their lives as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others. You want to make a lot of money and keep it for yourself? Cool. You want to spend your life as an impoverished monk? Great! You prefer something in between those extremes? Excellent. Let's just quit judging the way people choose to live their lives as long as they aren't doing undue harm to others or breaking laws or sponging off the public.

I would happily accept that. It is when others want to compel people into their service or the service of "others" that I get nervous.

180 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:34:22am

re: #171 Dustoff-507

Not worried. I'm not part of them. But our DEM gov in WA needs to speak up. (-:

The Queen?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA
*cough*
*gasp*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA

Yeah, right.

181 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:34:37am

Another missing email in the Onion Obama inbox spoof:

LeninDesigns: Your new flag design is ready. Pick up flags on Jan 20.

182 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:34:53am

re: #177 jcm

Observation, that's what made my jaw drop.

Maybe he's starting to see some light.

It sounds like he revealed something important about his inner worldview. He is not among the lost.

183 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:35:31am

Just saw two houses a few miles down the road proudly displaying McCain Pali yard signs. Not an Obama in sight.

184 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:35:36am

re: #180 jcm


Ahhhhhhhhhh come on JCM, were only 3.2 billion in debt! LOL

185 DaddyO  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:35:42am

re: #161 jill e

What do we live for, if not to make life less difficult for each other? —George Eliot


"Our very lives, as ex-problem drinkers, depend upon our constant thought of others and how we may help meet their needs"

/Bill Wilson

186 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:36:24am

re: #171 Dustoff-507

Not worried. I'm not part of them. But our DEM gov in WA needs to speak up. (-:

Frankly I think a number of pension funds (actually their managers once the dust settles) are fucked.

187 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:36:31am

re: #181 faraway

LOL. This could go on for days. Perhaps it could enjoy its own thread? We could do drive-by voting with the dinger system.

188 TheMatrix31  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:36:39am

re: #183 vagabond trader

Just saw two houses a few miles down the road proudly displaying McCain Pali yard signs. Not an Obama in sight.

We have two houses with Obama stuff on their car and house window a few houses down from us. Hooray for LA.

189 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:37:19am

You know, this stuff about the Pritzkers and Hyatt reminded me that a few years ago, a Chabad I go to would have their High Holiday services at a Regency (Hyatt division).
Suddenly, the location got changed to a nearby Radisson. The rabbi, being a proper gentleman, would not say why, just that "anyone who wants to rent a room for a function should go to the Radisson"
This makes me wonder what really happened.

190 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:37:35am

re: #186 Creeping Eruption


You can be sure of that. JCM and I are having a big laught about it.

Were both from WA state. (-:

191 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:37:47am

re: #182 Syrah

It sounds like he revealed something important about his inner worldview. He is not among the lost.

I think so, he's a homeowner so this ones hitting close.
A conservative is a liberal mugged by reality.

192 kansas  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:38:14am

re: #158 faraway

Dow up 448 in the corner. Too funny.

Dow up doesn't matter. Only down.

193 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:38:15am

re: #189 Kosh's Shadow

You know, this stuff about the Pritzkers and Hyatt reminded me that a few years ago, a Chabad I go to would have their High Holiday services at a Regency (Hyatt division).
Suddenly, the location got changed to a nearby Radisson. The rabbi, being a proper gentleman, would not say why, just that "anyone who wants to rent a room for a function should go to the Radisson"
This makes me wonder what really happened.

Bet the Pritzkers didn't get their Shmura Matzah or Shalech Manot that year. :)

194 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:38:18am

re: #188 TheMatrix31

Hey, it is LA, my sighting was in the blue state of RI, near the blue border of CT. Encouraging.

195 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:39:21am

re: #181 faraway

Another missing email in the Onion Obama inbox spoof:

LeninDesigns: Your new flag design is ready. Pick up flags on Jan 20.

The one with 57 stars?

196 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:40:48am

re: #106 Tigger2005

I'm sure you can guess my favorite paragraphs.

197 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:40:54am

re: #195 Kosh's Shadow

It will be fewer than that. :~)

198 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:40:57am

re: #176 unreconstructed rebel

I read somewhere the other day (can't remember where) that
college students
academics
journalists
trust fund babies
40 year olds in mama's garage

all have one thing in common. They are all well-insulated from reality, so they are inclined to see the world in idealistic terms.

This insulation is what makes for a voting democrat.

199 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:41:15am
200 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:41:19am

Inbox:
MTV: Confirmed Cribs taping on Jan 20th.

201 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:41:26am

re: #149 NC State of Mind

That was classic, but I couldn't figure out what their issue is. Are they claiming Obama is endorsed by the KKK? Is this the black version of Trooferism?

202 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:42:03am

re: #186 Creeping Eruption

Frankly I think a number of pension funds (actually their managers once the dust settles) are fucked.

True, but our Gov. in WA is famous for not taking responsibility for anything. That little habit of hers has cost Dustoff and I plenty.

203 kansas  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:42:15am

re: #201 doppelganglander

That was classic, but I couldn't figure out what their issue is. Are they claiming Obama is endorsed by the KKK? Is this the black version of Trooferism?

Don't rule out the possibility that these are Obama stooges.

204 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:43:01am

Inbox:
Weatherman Bill: Don't be near the Pentagon on Wednesday.

205 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:44:30am

re: #199 buzzsawmonkey

BIG updingy for this one.

206 missouri boy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:44:36am

The chairman of the Senate banking committee, Democrat Chris Dodd, said the United States could be "days away from a complete meltdown of our financial system" and Congress is working quickly to prevent that.

Now everything will be OK...CONgress is working on it!

207 wright1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:45:24am

re: #203 kansas

Don't rule out the possibility that these are Obama stooges.

It could be a prop by Obama but I do not think the one sign would say No to gay marriage. The KKK sign might have been a reference to Jeremiah Wright's comments. Hard to see.

208 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:45:32am

re: #206 missouri boy

As opposed to actual PROgress.

209 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:46:23am

re: #206 missouri boy

The chairman of the Senate banking committee, Democrat Chris Dodd, said the United States could be "days away from a complete meltdown of our financial system" and Congress is working quickly to prevent that.

Now everything will be OK...CONgress is working on it!

HEY ,,, DODD ,,, HANDS OFF ,, take a look at the market yesterday and today ,,, REPUBLICANS worked on a fix ,, looks like the world approves !

210 wright1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:46:48am

re: #206 missouri boy

The chairman of the Senate banking committee, Democrat Chris Dodd, said the United States could be "days away from a complete meltdown of our financial system" and Congress is working quickly to prevent that.

Now everything will be OK...CONgress is working on it!

That is like Bin Laden saying we need to protect ourselves against terrorism

211 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:47:01am

Just because:

What is the difference between a hockey mom and a killer bunny? Lipstick.

212 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:47:17am

re: #202 jcm


Her comes a payroll tax. 0-;

213 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:47:36am

Inbox:
David aka Popcorn: Hey, open the bus doors. The FBI is after me.

214 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:47:40am

re: #206 missouri boy

No, actually the awesome trio lead by Henry Paulson is doing that.

I loved the picture on the front of the WaPo today. Pelosi looked so ...... lost.

215 kansas  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:48:59am

re: #111 Salem

Wha? I thought Sandra Bernhard was dead....

That's wishful thinking.

216 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:49:09am

Heh.

Just saw a car driving down the street with an "Obama '08" bumper sticker. Someone stuck a "s" sticker over the "b". Perfect match - took some effort making up those "s" stickers. I doubt the driver even noticed - probably been like that for days (he had a second "Obama '08" sticker on the back window that was not tampered with).

Too funny!

217 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:49:12am

re: #179 Syrah

I would happily accept that. It is when others want to compel people into their service or the service of "others" that I get nervous.

Yes, that's the thing. It must always be a free choice.

I recently read the book "The Go-Giver." Now, a lot of liberals like this book. But I didn't find the ideas in it that liberal (except for some things right at the end). The basic idea was, you have a better chance of making money (and keeping it) when you are focused less on making money than you are on providing excellent service. People will pay more for high value. The thing is, this is not "sacrificial" service, it's an exchange. Even when you give without keeping a tally, without expecting a "favor" in return, you're building networks and a good name that may help you down the road when you least expect it. But again, it has to be a free, personal choice.

"The Fountainhead" had some fantastic ideas. I don't agree completely with Ayn Rand's philosophy but I don't throw the baby out with the bathwater either. The main character, Howard Roark, is a fiction hero of mine almost on the level of Atticus Finch. He absolutely refuses to compromise his principles. He never gives less than his full talent and abilities to any project. In the end, he probably "gives" more than it's really possible to compensate, but he can do nothing less.

218 wright1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:49:46am

re: #214 unreconstructed rebel

No, actually the awesome trio lead by Henry Paulson is doing that.

I loved the picture on the front of the WaPo today. Pelosi looked so ...... lost.


I heard her crowing on Laura Ingraham in a sound clip saying: No, no , no to every question "Aren't the democrats to blame for htis crisis?" Pathetic

219 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:49:50am

Inbox:
GwenIfill: Your debate questions look dreamy.

220 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:50:09am

re: #212 Dustoff-507

Her comes a payroll tax. 0-;

Rossi as chair of the finance committee dug us out of the last hole. I think he can do it again.

State Revenue in WA is project to go up 8%, the spending deficit is rushing past $2 Billion toward $3 B. Olympia is run by morons.

221 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:50:48am

re: #218 wright1

I heard her crowing on Laura Ingraham in a sound clip saying: No, no , no to every question "Aren't the democrats to blame for htis crisis?" Pathetic

I wanted to reach through the radio and bitch slap her!

222 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:51:20am

re: #216 Racer X

Heh.

Just saw a car driving down the street with an "Obama '08" bumper sticker. Someone stuck a "s" sticker over the "b". Perfect match - took some effort making up those "s" stickers. I doubt the driver even noticed - probably been like that for days (he had a second "Obama '08" sticker on the back window that was not tampered with).

Too funny!

Vandalism is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

223 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:52:00am

re: #220 jcm


Long as we don't have another Voting problem. 0-:

This voting by mail has me very nervous

224 GGMac  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:53:48am

re: #79 buzzsawmonkey

Nice. Very nice.

Yes - a lovely, non-nuanced differentiation between love and screwing around.

225 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:54:00am

re: #223 Dustoff-507

Long as we don't have another Voting problem. 0-:

This voting by mail has me very nervous

I plan on voting by mail this year - 147 times.

226 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:54:18am

*snicker*

227 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:55:11am

re: #216 Racer X

Heh.

Just saw a car driving down the street with an "Obama
'08" bumper sticker. Someone stuck a "s" sticker over the "b". Perfect
match - took some effort making up those "s" stickers. I doubt the
driver even noticed - probably been like that for days (he had a second
"Obama '08" sticker on the back window that was not tampered with).

Too funny!

You sure it was vandalism? Given how kooky the left has gotten, I wouldn't be surprised if the driver was supporting Bin Laden!

228 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:55:21am

re: #216 Racer X

So, whatcher sayin is we all need to go by the local hardware store & pick-up a bunch of stick-ons of the letter s?

/I may be arrested this weekend

229 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:56:15am

re: #225 Racer X


Now I like that.... didn't that happen last time in Wa state. 0-:

230 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:56:24am

re: #228 unreconstructed rebel

So, whatcher sayin is we all need to go by the local hardware store & pick-up a bunch of stick-ons of the letter s?

/I may be arrested this weekend

I'd rather get some "D"s & "Y"s to paste over the "HOPE" posters - change 'em into "DOPE" & "HYPE"

231 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:56:54am

re: #228 unreconstructed rebel

So, whatcher sayin is we all need to go by the local hardware store & pick-up a bunch of stick-ons of the letter s?

/I may be arrested this weekend

Whatever color the background is for the OBAMA 08 one is, get a blank of that also. Cover the "8" and PRESTO ,, "OBAMA 0"

232 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:56:59am

re: #228 unreconstructed rebel

So, whatcher sayin is we all need to go by the local hardware store & pick-up a bunch of stick-ons of the letter s?

/I may be arrested this weekend

Forget that, just hack Obama's Yahoo account.

233 victor_yugo  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:57:04am

re: #222 MandyManners

Vandalism is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

That assumes the driver didn't do it him/herself.

234 Maximu§  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:58:27am

Well my Momma just told me on the phone she thinks Obama is "the Devil".....needless to say, she's a McCain supporter.

235 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:59:13am

re: #223 Dustoff-507

Long as we don't have another Voting problem. 0-:

This voting by mail has me very nervous

Let's hope Sam Reed's changes and purge of 500,000 invalid registrations helps.

Yes Lizards, The WA Sec State found 1 out of every 7 voter registrations was invalid. Gorton in '00 lost his Senate seat to Cantwell by 2000 votes, and Rossi lost in '04 by 133. It doesn't take a whiz kid to figure out a few of 500,000 invalid registrations got voted.

ACORN has been very busy in WA, and 5 members have done or are doing jail time for fraud.

The encouraging thing is even with that extent of effort they only won by a fraction of a percentage. In a straight up fair election guess who wins?

236 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:59:43am

Obama supports U.S. economic recovery efforts

Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said on Friday he supported efforts by the U.S. Treasury and Federal Reserve to shore up confidence in the financial markets and said he would hold off from presenting his own economic recovery plan.

Too late asshole, train's left the station.

/what a jerk, just yesterday he was loudly and proudly bad mouthing the economy

237 tokyobk  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:00:22am

The Pritzkers do have a record of supporting Jewish causes, so I would be suprised...

238 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:00:26am

re: #216 Racer X

Subtle and harmless delicious fun. :)

239 dingleB  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:00:41am

re: #83 pink freud

Thanks for the link. I lost my previous pdf converter software when my laptop crashed.

240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:00:44am

re: #231 sattv4u2

Whatever color the background is for the OBAMA 08 one is, get a blank of that also. Cover the "8" and PRESTO ,, "OBAMA 0"

It's Prussian Blue.

241 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:00:44am

re: #233 victor_yugo

That assumes the driver didn't do it him/herself.

he's a democrat and an Obama supporter. he doeesn't do ANYTHING by himself. There must have been a gov't program to help him!

242 GGMac  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:01:20am

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

Can one crack a rib from coughing?

243 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:01:35am

re: #222 MandyManners

Vandalism is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Do you mean that in a 70s/blaxploitation sense?

244 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:01:36am

re: #235 jcm

Let's hope Sam Reed's changes and purge of 500,000 invalid registrations helps.

Yes Lizards, The WA Sec State found 1 out of every 7 voter registrations was invalid. Gorton in '00 lost his Senate seat to Cantwell by 2000 votes, and Rossi lost in '04 by 133. It doesn't take a whiz kid to figure out a few of 500,000 invalid registrations got voted.

ACORN has been very busy in WA, and 5 members have done or are doing jail time for fraud.

The encouraging thing is even with that extent of effort they only won by a fraction of a percentage. In a straight up fair election guess who wins?

A voter fraud conviction should result in a prison conviction of life without parole. It undermines our entire government and should be harshly punished.

245 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:02:07am

re: #217 Tigger2005

I have my disagreements with Rand as well. Those libertarians who treat her as a god have lost something along the way.

Her archetypes are a bit comic bookish, but I think they serve their purpose well.

Howard Roark is the archetypal libertarian hero, an example and a guide, and in that purpose, the character works.

I have posted many links to Obama's Call to Service speech in Colorado. I think it reveals a great deal about his worldview and his concept of the role of the state (the community) and the proper relationship of citizens to it.

Have you seen it?

246 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:02:07am

A lot of moral equivalence in "The Catcher in the Rye." I think there's a part where a character says the American military was no better than the enemy it was fighting.

re: #199 buzzsawmonkey

One of the books which was very popular throughout the '60s, was recommended on many advanced highschool and college reading lists, was Paul Goodman's "Growing Up Absurd". Basically, the book goes on at length about how useless and soul-destroying work and modern society is; it is a clarion call to the young to enter upon the training-ground of college and their subsequent entry into life convinced of their own uselessness, the pointlessness of their endeavor, the worthlessness of work, etc. I suspect that the damage done by this book is incalculable.

Contrast this book with, say, Kipling's raucous and slightly fictionalized account of his schooldays in the book "Stalky & Co." The United Services College, which Kipling attended, prepared boys for the Army and the Indian Civil Service. Kipling was something of a fish out of water there, in that being very nearsighted he was ineligible for the Army--but it gave him an appreciation for the virtues the school taught.

Today, of course, a high-school or college student is far more likely to read something like Catcher in the Rye than they are to read Stalky & Co. Though Catcher in the Rye is, like Stalky, a work of fiction, it does much to inculcate the value of Goodman's nonfiction book.

Who is Holden Caulfield? A rich-boy screwup, expelled from yet another private school. The book details his aimless wandering around New York between the time he leaves the school and must go home to face the music. He spends the time ranting against "phonies," and against his brother who is "being a whore" for working as a screenwriter--i.e., having a productive job. His ambition is to be that nonexistent thing, a "catcher in the rye," who prevents a number of small children from falling off an imaginary cliff--i.e., prevents them from growing up into adults, keeping them children forever.

I mention these things because, having read Bill Whittle's essay linked to upthread, in which he discusses how children are taught how this country is evil and not worth defending, I think it worth pointing out that disaffection from the embracement of adulthood has been an article of faith with the "thinking" establishment for fifty years plus at least--and that the material foisted upon kids as "literature" is designed to inculcate that worldview at precisely the time that kids should be viewing the world beyond their schools with excitement and anticipation.

247 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:02:20am

re: #242 GGMac

Yes, from sneezing too.

248 Maximu§  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:02:20am

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

Can one crack a rib from coughing?


Happened to my wife, the answer is yes.

249 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:02:27am

re: #236 Killian Bundy

Obama supports U.S. economic recovery efforts

Too late asshole, train's left the station.

/what a jerk, just yesterday he was loudly and proudly bad mouthing the economy

It means his 300 advisers are in the back room fighting over a mild socialist solution or the out and out Marxist solution.

250 GGMac  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:04:00am

re: #242 GGMac

That's supposed to be a reply to #85 newsjunkie_ky.

Yes, you can break a rib when coughing. Have an auntie-in-law who has had it happen several times; bones compromised from lifetime of seizure meds.

251 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:04:19am

re: #226 MandyManners

*snicker*

Chocolate? WHERE?!

252 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:04:30am

re: #228 unreconstructed rebel

So, whatcher sayin is we all need to go by the local hardware store & pick-up a bunch of stick-ons of the letter s?

/I may be arrested this weekend

NO!

I am not saying that! I am not saying that taking the "s" from an old "Edwards '08" sticker is a perfect match. Not saying that at all.

253 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:04:31am

re: #236 Killian Bundy

Obama supports U.S. economic recovery efforts

Too late asshole, train's left the station.

/what a jerk, just yesterday he was loudly and proudly bad mouthing the economy

He will likely spin his announcement as (uh) "statesmanship".

254 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:04:46am

re: #243 Occasional Reader

Do you mean that in a 70s/blaxploitation sense?

Shut your mouth!

255 FrogMarch  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:04:52am

re: #236 Killian Bundy

Obama supports U.S. economic recovery efforts

Too late asshole, train's left the station.

/what a jerk, just yesterday he was loudly and proudly bad mouthing the economy

Obama has a plan.
/channeling John Kerry.

256 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:05:34am

re: #248 Maximu§

Happened to my wife, the answer is yes.

Another way to crack a rib is to get drunk & trip on the stairs, or so I have been told.

257 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:05:58am

re: #252 Racer X

NO!

I am not saying that! I am not saying that taking the "s" from an old "Edwards '08" sticker is a perfect match. Not saying that at all.

And I not saying that that is too funny!

258 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:06:15am

re: #251 Fat Jolly Penguin

Chocolate? WHERE?!

Ask Laura Booth?

259 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:06:33am

re: #252 Racer X

LOL

260 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:06:40am

re: #236 Killian Bundy

just yesterday he was loudly and proudly bad mouthing the economy

You must be a liar and a racist to bring up something that happened so long ago.

261 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:06:54am

re: #256 opnion

Another way to crack a rib is to get drunk & trip on the stairs, or so I have been told.

Or, to trip over a bundle of feline fur and fall down the stairs.

262 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:07:01am

A question I may never have answered to my satisfaction:

Why do people who claim to hate everything every done by old white European males always propose a "solution" that was invented by old white European males?

263 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:07:45am

re: #230 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'd rather get some "D"s & "Y"s to paste over the "HOPE" posters - change 'em into "DOPE" & "HYPE"

I saw a car with 0bama stickers and one said "Got hope?"
(Yes, I hope 0bama loses)
Anyway, changing that to "Got dope?" would get this guy harassed by the police and all the random druggies.
Too nasty.

264 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:07:49am

re: #206 missouri boy

Dodd is a traitorous pos and should be led out of the senate in handcuffs, along with Rangel and Frank. What, us worry?

265 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:07:52am

re: #261 MandyManners

Or, to trip over a bundle of feline fur and fall down the stairs.

The cat did it on purpose.

266 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:08:34am

re: #258 MandyManners

Ask Laura Booth?


GMTA
I still got left over snickers from the laura Booth DT from yesterday..
You can have the left overs Jolly..

267 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:08:43am

re: #264 vagabond trader

Dodd is a traitorous pos and should be led out of the senate in handcuffs, along with Rangel and Frank. What, us worry?

I am praying that my fellow nutmeg staters will boot his *ss next election.

268 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:08:44am

re: #255 FrogMarch

Obama has a plan.

A plan, my Ass.

If he's channeling that Ass he's got a MagicHat - and not much more than that.

269 BigJohn  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:08:48am

Inbox

John Kerry - I was in Vietnam

270 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:08:49am

re: #255 FrogMarch

Obama has a SECRET plan that he will only reveal if he is elected ,, trust him.
/channeling John Kerry.

fixed

271 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:09:14am

re: #262 Tigger2005

A question I may never have answered to my satisfaction:

Why do people who claim to hate everything every done by old white European males always propose a "solution" that was invented by old white European males?

Well, one group of old white European males actually were productive. The other group of old white European males, slept around, hung out at the library, all while mooching off of their wife's family.

272 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:09:15am

re: #269 BigJohn

Inbox

John Kerry - I was in Vietnam

I wonder if he ever got injured?

273 JacksonTn  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:09:25am

re: #201 doppelganglander

That was classic, but I couldn't figure out what their issue is. Are they claiming Obama is endorsed by the KKK? Is this the black version of Trooferism?

Do you think they are members of Uhuru? I think they were protesting at one of his rallys once:

[Link: www.uhurunews.com...]

274 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:09:53am

re: #236 Killian Bundy

Killian, you are, as always, very concise and accurate.

I don't think an upding was enough.

275 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:10:22am

re: #269 BigJohn

Ohhh my... That's surging I tell ya. Definitely surging.

276 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:10:23am

re: #267 Ford_Prefect

Where are you Ford? I'm in the northeast corner of CT.Why has this guy and so many others been repeatedly sent back to Washington in order to pick our pockets? Term limits now!

277 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:10:39am

re: #269 BigJohn

Inbox

John Kerry - I was in Vietnam

/seared into his memory

278 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:10:52am

re: #244 Perplexed

A voter fraud conviction should result in a prison conviction of life without parole. It undermines our entire government and should be harshly punished.

How about they are put on an island with a corrupt voting system and are never voted off?

279 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:11:10am

re: #272 sattv4u2

I wonder if he ever got injured?

I heard it is was a cooking accident involving some rice, but may have heard wrong.

280 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:11:13am

re: #272 sattv4u2

Got Band-Aids?

281 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:11:16am

re: #256 opnion

Another way to crack a rib is to get drunk & trip on the stairs, or so I have been told.

Ma Reject (my mom), who is somewhat short in stature, actually cracked a rib by stretching to grab a sock out of the bottom of the washing machine.

282 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:11:29am

re: #278 debutaunt

How about they are put on an island with a corrupt voting system and are never voted off?

Sounds like Cuba.

283 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:11:40am

re: #277 HoosierHoops

/seared into his memory

everybody's

284 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:11:49am

re: #279 jcm

Yup. Rice Pilaf.

285 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:12:01am

re: #280 Cap'n DOC

Got Band-Aids?

no ,, but plenty of Kerry and now Obama supporters like Kool Aid ,,, does that count ?

286 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:12:10am

re: #244 Perplexed

A voter fraud conviction should result in a prison conviction of life without parole. It undermines our entire government and should be harshly punished.

and while in prison, they can organize the community to demand voting rights:) poor disenfranchised convicts.

287 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:12:12am

re: #265 Ford_Prefect

The cat did it on purpose.

No. He was chasing the evil mouse. DEATH TO MICE.

288 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:12:16am

re: #278 debutaunt

How about they are put on an island with a corrupt voting system and are never voted off?


Chicago's not an island, but it'll do in a pinch.

289 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:12:43am

bbl

290 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:13:04am

re: #285 sattv4u2

That would have prolly got him another Star - or something.

291 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:13:04am

re: #287 MandyManners

No. He was chasing the evil mouse. DEATH TO MICEMickey Mouse.

292 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:13:12am

re: #267 Ford_Prefect

I am praying that my fellow nutmeg staters will boot his *ss next election.


what is the nutmeg state?

293 kansas  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:13:50am

"Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

294 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:13:50am

re: #284 Cap'n DOC

Yup. Rice Pilaf.

Rice Pilass, don' you mean?

295 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:14:02am

re: #292 Eowyn2

what is the nutmeg state?

CT

296 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:14:05am

re: #292 Eowyn2

A bastion of libral elitism aka Connecticut.

297 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:14:09am

re: #276 vagabond trader

Where are you Ford? I'm in the northeast corner of CT.Why has this guy and so many others been repeatedly sent back to Washington in order to pick our pockets? Term limits now!

I could not agree more.
I am outside the capital city. I have been asking myself the same question for a long time. People would be screaming for him to be ousted if he were from another state, but they will all make excuses for him since he is from our state. I guess it is the old "he may be a crook, but he's our crook" line.

298 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:14:16am

re: #278 debutaunt

How about they are put on an island with a corrupt voting system and are never voted off?

OR have their passport seized and revoked, have them stripped of citizenship and have them kicked out of the country permanently.

Where would they go? - Let them worry about it.

299 arf  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:15:00am

Same here, I can't figure out this "blacks against Obama" thing?

What's their agenda? I'm no particular fan of Obama to put it mildly. Are these "blacks against Obama" people who happen to be black and also happen to oppose Obama for the usual reasons?

As in, black Republicans? Or is there some specific racial thing going on that has escaped my attention?

300 Pyrocles  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:15:17am

Wow, great post, buzz. Looking back on my college education, I can't help but notice the truth of what you say. Most of my professors tried to instill very bleak outlooks on America, and life in general. The main theme of college (at least in my Liberal Arts courses) was "you will never succeed; yours is the first generation in American history whose standard of living will be below your parents; nothing is worth fighting for or even caring about". A lot of general negativity.

I indeed read Catcher in the Rye in college, and was always surprised by the negative portrayal of capitalism and general "work" by professors. I felt conflicted, as I was in college to ultimately get a job after graduation. All the while, professors preached against the concepts of "work" and "success", and instilled in you the fact that you will never succeed. I almost forgot why I went to college in the first place...

Should have majored in Engineering...

re: #199 buzzsawmonkey

301 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:15:24am

re: #292 Eowyn2

what is the nutmeg state?

Connecticut.

302 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:15:49am

re: #299 arf

Same here, I can't figure out this "blacks against Obama" thing?

What's their agenda? I'm no particular fan of Obama to put it mildly. Are these "blacks against Obama" people who happen to be black and also happen to oppose Obama for the usual reasons?

As in, black Republicans? Or is there some specific racial thing going on that has escaped my attention?

He's not liberal enough for them. Might not be authentic enough either.

303 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:16:11am

re: #297 Ford_Prefect

It is Conn-ecticut after all, and OUR crooks are superior to other crooks.

304 tokyobk  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:16:33am

re: #271 Perplexed

Well, one group of old white European males actually were productive. The other group of old white European males, slept around, hung out at the library, all while mooching off of their wife's family.

White liberalism is an illness of the bad faith variety, As you note, it still posits white people as the agents responsible for all things good and bad. You would never know from a liberal arts education that brown and black people are as capable for chosing good or evil. Its sad because, take the Quakers, their moral positions in the 18th and 18th century were admirable, such as opposition to slavery, but they went on a spiral where now they see it as good to be nice to the worlds living Haman. They cannot concieve him as repsonsible for his choice to be a total a-hole.

305 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:16:47am

re: #302 Perplexed

Might not be authentic enough either.

I think he's got it.

306 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:16:50am

re: #287 MandyManners

No. He was chasing the evil mouse. DEATH TO MICE.

Don't you know that mice are actually the most intelligent life form on the planet? They are actually pan dimensional beings that have been running experiments on us for centuries.

307 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:16:53am

re: #295 CIA Reject

why nutmeg?

why not something a bit grander?

nutmeg?

unless you are trying to incorporate at the lowest possible tax rate.

308 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:17:10am

Comment dit-on "duct tape" en francais?

Large Hadron Supercollider breaks down again

309 FrogMarch  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:17:44am

re: #268 Cap'n DOC

Obama has a plan.

A plan, my Ass.

If he's channeling that Ass he's got a MagicHat - and not much more than that.

It's all lies!


/channeling desperation

310 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:17:50am

Hello Lizards
Drive-by post, I am away from home, not quite reliable wifi

Today's TRIVIA double quiz

How much does the US mint spend to make each penny?
Each nickel?

311 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:17:58am

re: #308 Occasional Reader

Duct tape. It's the same everywhere.

312 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:18:00am

re: #307 Eowyn2

aka the Constitution State. I think it was the first to sign or some such.

313 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:18:00am

re: #303 vagabond trader

It is Conn-ecticut after all, and OUR crooks are superior to other crooks.

Apparently not. Superior crooks don't get caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

314 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:18:25am

re: #292 Eowyn2

what is the nutmeg state?

Connecticut.alifornia..
I wanted to resist.. but I am weak.
/

315 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:18:35am

re: #299 arf

Same here, I can't figure out this "blacks against Obama" thing?

What's their agenda? I'm no particular fan of Obama to put it mildly. Are these "blacks against Obama" people who happen to be black and also happen to oppose Obama for the usual reasons?

As in, black Republicans? Or is there some specific racial thing going on that has escaped my attention?

From what I have read and heard, it's that Obama isn't "black enough" for them 9i.e. not speaking out loudly and often enough about 'black" issues) They are NOT to be confused with conservative blacks (the likes of Micheal Steele, Herman Cane ets)

316 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:18:45am

re: #294 jcm

Sorry. I did.

317 Ps2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:19:06am

Obama's mentor a Communist and ...a Pedophile?

[Link: massdiscussion.blogspot.com...]

318 FrogMarch  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:19:42am

btw - I was listening to someone on the radio explain that Obama's tax relief for 95% of us is really tantamount to welfare checks.

319 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:19:47am

re: #299 arf

Same here, I can't figure out this "blacks against Obama" thing?

What's their agenda? I'm no particular fan of Obama to put it mildly. Are these "blacks against Obama" people who happen to be black and also happen to oppose Obama for the usual reasons?

As in, black Republicans? Or is there some specific racial thing going on that has escaped my attention?

I was able to make out one sign that said something about gay marriage, one sign had something about the kkk on it. I know a black man in VA who is definately anti-obambi.

Obama reminds me of the black man who went with the carpet bagger to forclose on the homes of the southerners for not paying their back taxes in "The Undefeated."

320 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:19:47am

re: #317 Ps2

Obama's mentor a Communist and ...a Pedophile?

[Link: massdiscussion.blogspot.com...]

I'm sure theres room under the bus for one more

321 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:20:03am

re: #313 Ford_Prefect

Just imitating a common affectation of superiority by most everyone residing in this overrated place.

322 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:20:04am

re: #300 Pyrocles

Wow, great post, buzz. Looking back on my college education, I can't help but notice the truth of what you say. Most of my professors tried to instill very bleak outlooks on America, and life in general. The main theme of college (at least in my Liberal Arts courses) was "you will never succeed; yours is the first generation in American history whose standard of living will be below your parents; nothing is worth fighting for or even caring about". A lot of general negativity.

I indeed read Catcher in the Rye in college, and was always surprised by the negative portrayal of capitalism and general "work" by professors. I felt conflicted, as I was in college to ultimately get a job after graduation. All the while, professors preached against the concepts of "work" and "success", and instilled in you the fact that you will never succeed. I almost forgot why I went to college in the first place...

Should have majored in Engineering...

I was in Engineering school in college in the 70's and the outlook there was a lot more positive than what you describe- our professors told us that we would be the ones to make the world a better place for everyone.

There was just one hitch.

They were sure Jimmy Carter would be a great president because, after all, "he's an engineer!"

DOH!

323 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:20:18am

re: #310 rawmuse

Hello Lizards
Drive-by post, I am away from home, not quite reliable wifi

Today's TRIVIA double quiz

How much does the US mint spend to make each penny?
Each nickel?


8 cents per nickel
3 cents per penny

324 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:20:29am

re: #300 Pyrocles

Wow, great post, buzz. Looking back on my college education, I can'thelp but notice the truth of what you say. Most of my professors triedto instill very bleak outlooks on America, and life in general. Themain theme of college (at least in my Liberal Arts courses) was "youwill never succeed; yours is the first generation in American historywhose standard of living will be below your parents; nothing is worthfighting for or even caring about". A lot of general negativity.

I indeed read Catcher in the Ryein college, and was always surprised by the negative portrayal ofcapitalism and general "work" by professors. I felt conflicted, as Iwas in college to ultimately get a job after graduation. All the while,professors preached against the concepts of "work" and "success", andinstilled in you the fact that you will never succeed. I almost forgotwhy I went to college in the first place...

Should have majored in Engineering...


* * * *
Engineers love life and love America. Remember Liviu Librescu the Romanian engineering professor who barricaded his classroom against the Virginia Tech murderer, sacrificing himself to save his students' lives while they jumped out the window. Librescu was a holocaust survivor.

Another engineering professor who died to save his students at Va Tech was from India.

Bless those who come to America & defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

325 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:20:39am

re: #304 tokyobk

Nixon was a Quaker. Wonder what they thought of that?

326 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:20:51am

re: #307 Eowyn2

why nutmeg?

why not something a bit grander?

nutmeg?

unless you are trying to incorporate at the lowest possible tax rate.

It is actually not a very nice nickname, but people here don't seem to know where it comes from so they use it with pride. It references a time when traders would put nutmeg into barrells of tea (I think it was tea) in order to make a larger profit. Not a very ethical thing to do.

327 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:20:53am

re: #317 Ps2

Yup.

328 jill e  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:21:01am

From Instapundit:

Did Eliot Spitzer contribute to AIG's demise?

He certainly hurt Marsh & McLennan. And the industry in general was horribly affected by Spitzer on his path to the governorship.

Have you listened to the names of the companies being affected? AIG, Morgan Stanley, Lehman Brothers...many of their employees survived 9/11 only to have their lives destroyed by the greed...

329 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:21:08am

re: #323 Eowyn2

8 cents per nickel
3 cents per penny

How do they do it? Volume!

330 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:21:53am

re: #317 Ps2

Obama's mentor a Communist and ...a Pedophile?

[Link: massdiscussion.blogspot.com...]

Dreams of my father?

331 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:22:02am

The Obama-Iraq thing is not going away.

Good!

332 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:22:05am

re: #307 Eowyn2

why nutmeg?

why not something a bit grander?

nutmeg?

unless you are trying to incorporate at the lowest possible tax rate.

Beats me, I'm a New Yorker. I just worked in CT for a couple of years and the fact that it's "the Nutmeg State" is all I remember about the culture there...

333 Tamron  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:22:15am

re: #18 buzzsawmonkey

Community: Life is good.
Community organizer: Life stinks! You're miserable!
Community: No, we're fine.
Community organizer: No, you're wrong. You have grievances, like [grievance], [grievance], and [grievance].
Community: By golly, we never thought of it that way before. You're right! BIG [GRIEVANCE] IS RIPPING US OFF! Boy, are we pissed!
Community organizer: Well, you know, you could do something about that...
Community: We could? What? Tell us! Boy, are we pissed!
Community organizer: Well, you know, [grievance] is all [target]'s fault. You could attack [target].
Community: Yes! Yes! Down with [target]!
Community organizer: Heh.

JUST LIKE THE LYING KING...
.

334 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:22:16am

re: #323 Eowyn2

8 cents per nickel
3 cents per penny

You appear to be our WINNAH for today.
Different sources will give you differing amounts, but you rounded yours up to the nearest penny, and since we have no fractions of pennies, I think you got it.

335 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:22:36am

re: #321 vagabond trader

Just imitating a common affectation of superiority by most everyone residing in this overrated place.

Now there I would have to disagree with you. I love CT, it is just all the lefties that I don't like.

336 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:22:40am

re: #310 rawmuse

Hello Lizards
Drive-by post, I am away from home, not quite reliable wifi

Today's TRIVIA double quiz

How much does the US mint spend to make each penny?
Each nickel?

* * * *
If coins are used millions of times while in circulation, does it matter if they cost more than their face value to manufacture?

337 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:23:02am

re: #326 Ford_Prefect

Prolly Dodd's ancestors.

338 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:23:14am

re: #322 CIA Reject

I was in Engineering school in college in the 70's and the outlook there was a lot more positive than what you describe- our professors told us that we would be the ones to make the world a better place for everyone.

There was just one hitch.

They were sure Jimmy Carter would be a great president because, after all, "he's an engineer!"

DOH!


I went to a science school at the end of the 80s. Everyone there watched the smart bombs fall on Iraq and wanted to switch majors to computer science or math.

339 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:23:44am

re: #334 rawmuse

You appear to be our WINNAH for today.
Different sources will give you differing amounts, but you rounded yours up to the nearest penny, and since we have no fractions of pennies, I think you got it.

Inflation at work.

340 katemaclaren  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:23:47am

re: #11 MandyManners


Me too, WHAT?

341 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:23:56am

re: #336 alegrias

The problem seems to be that many of us do not circulate coins anymore, we put them in a jar on our dresser.

342 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:24:17am

re: #332 CIA Reject

Beats me, I'm a New Yorker. I just worked in CT for a couple of years and the fact that it's "the Nutmeg State" is all I remember about the culture there...

I think that ground nutmeg was put into hot, high alcohol content drinks.

343 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:24:25am

re: #312 vagabond trader

aka the Constitution State. I think it was the first to sign or some such.

That would be Delaware.

344 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:24:48am

re: #307 Eowyn2

why nutmeg?

why not something a bit grander?

nutmeg?

unless you are trying to incorporate at the lowest possible tax rate.

Well, they at 1st wanted
CONNECTICUT ,, THE STATE THATS REALLY REALLY SMALL COMPARED TO MANY OTHERS BUT A LOT OF COOL THINGS HAVE HAPPENED HERE AND WE'RE CLOSE TO NEW YORK CITY SO YOU CAN GO THERE, CATCH A SHOW, AND BE HOME IN THE SAFE SUBURBS

but that didn't fit on the license plates

345 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:24:56am

Help me understand this:

Bradley effect: A belief by liberals whereby racists admit to pollsters they are voting for a black man.

346 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:25:03am

re: #337 vagabond trader

Prolly Dodd's ancestors.

I don't know. Have you seen Dodd lately? It might have been him doing it.

347 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:25:10am
348 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:25:28am

re: #326 Ford_Prefect

It is actually not a very nice nickname, but people here don't seem to know where it comes from so they use it with pride. It references a time when traders would put nutmeg into barrells of tea (I think it was tea) in order to make a larger profit. Not a very ethical thing to do.

helped pay the Mad King's taxes.

Connecticut: We're bigger than Rhode Island and Delaware

349 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:25:29am

re: #310 rawmuse

Hello Lizards
Drive-by post, I am away from home, not quite reliable wifi

Today's TRIVIA double quiz

How much does the US mint spend to make each penny?
Each nickel?

1.7 ¢ to manufacture a penny,
10 ¢ for a nicke.

350 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:26:35am

re: #342 Perplexed

I think that ground nutmeg was put into hot, high alcohol content drinks.

did those drinks have Captain Morgan in them?
Avast, gives me my rum matey, or I'll throw the nutmegs at ye.

351 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:26:35am

re: #345 faraway

Help me understand this:

Bradley effect: A belief by liberals whereby racists admit to pollsters they are voting for a black man.

No....the Bradley effect is the idea that people do not always answer honestly when asked if they will vote for a black/minority......overstating the vote for the black/minority.

352 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:27:00am

re: #341 rawmuse

Is that what we're supposed to do with it?

/I always look under the couch cushions. CHANGE!

353 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:27:05am

re: #332 CIA Reject

Beats
me, I'm a New Yorker. I just worked in CT for a couple of years and the
fact that it's "the Nutmeg State" is all I remember about the culture
there...

What the hell is a Buckeye & why do Ohio folks call themselves that?

354 DaddyG  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:27:19am

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

Can one crack a rib from coughing?

A bruised muscle in the chest can feel like that too. (Take it from a guy who does this at least once per winter) Ugh!

355 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:27:47am

re: #335 Ford_Prefect

CT is losing population like a sieve.Not business friendly, taxes too high, waaaay too much government, and populated by snootier than thous. Other than that, I have a nice modest place in the country which will be unaffordable once the old man retires.

356 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:27:47am

re: #330 Racer X

Oh, no. Did you read that excerpt?

Gah! Argh! Spit!

I feel sick and filthy having read that.

357 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:27:54am

re: #343 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That would be Delaware.

This is where the nick comes from.

Connecticut was designated the “Constitution State” by the General Assembly in 1959. As early as the 19th Century, John Fiske, a popular historian from Connecticut, made the claim that the Fundamental Orders of 1638/39 were the first written constitution in history. Some contemporary historians dispute Fiske's analysis. However, Simeon E. Baldwin, a former Chief Justice of the Connecticut Supreme Court, defended Fiske's view of the Fundamental Orders in Osborn's History of Connecticut in Monographic Form by stating that "never had a company of men deliberately met to frame a social compact for immediate use, constituting a new and independent commonwealth, with definite officers, executive and legislative, and prescribed rules and modes of government, until the first planters of Connecticut came together for their great work on January 14th, 1638-9." The text of the Fundamental Orders is reproduced in Section I of this volume and the original is on permanent display at the Museum of Connecticut History at the State Library. Connecticut has also been known as the “Nutmeg State”, the “Provisions State”, and the “Land of Steady Habits”.

358 Alouette  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:27:56am

re: #324 alegrias

* * * *
Engineers love life and love America. Remember Liviu Librescu the Romanian engineering professor who barricaded his classroom against the Virginia Tech murderer, sacrificing himself to save his students' lives while they jumped out the window. Librescu was a holocaust survivor.

Another engineering professor who died to save his students at Va Tech was from India.

Bless those who come to America & defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

I graduated with a B.S. in Math from an engineering school. No liberal moonbat professors, no campus shenanigans, just students attending class, taking notes, doing homework, studying and taking exams.

Military recruiters with full access to students and long lines at the recruiting booths.

359 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:28:00am

re: #354 DaddyG

A bruised muscle in the chest can feel like that too. (Take it from a guy who does this at least once per winter) Ugh!

I usually take the family skiing!

360 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:28:01am

re: #353 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It's a relative of the chestnut, I believe. Anyroad, the nut sure looks like one.

361 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:28:04am

re: #322 CIA Reject

Iwas in Engineering school in college in the 70's and the outlook therewas a lot more positive than what you describe- our professors told usthat we would be the ones to make the world a better place foreveryone.

There was just one hitch.

They were sure Jimmy Carter would be a great president because, after all, "he's an engineer!"

DOH!

* * *
Carter was a micro-managing engineer who did not understand LEADERSHIP means letting better engineers tinker under the hood, while you focus on the big picture.

Reagan focused on the larger picture, encouraged his "engineers" and citizens to do for themselves, and to have confidence in their abilities to face & overcome challenges.

LEADERS inspire others to do their best and see WIN-WIN opportunities, not to become depressed and see the glass half empty, win-lose at other's expense.

Expanding the Universe is what real Leaders do.

362 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:28:08am

re: #347 buzzsawmonkey

Too funny.

363 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:28:13am

re: #349 jcm

1.7 ¢ to manufacture a penny,
10 ¢ for a nicke.

The quote from the US Mint (from several months ago) was
2.7 cents for each penny
7.5 cents for each nickel.

I awarded the win to Eowyn, allowing for the round up to the nearest penny.

364 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:28:37am

re: #341 rawmuse

The problem seems to be that many of us do not circulate coins anymore, we put them in a jar on our dresser.

I have a coin purse that is referred to as "the cosh."

365 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:28:51am

re: #334 rawmuse

You appear to be our WINNAH for today.
Different sources will give you differing amounts, but you rounded yours up to the nearest penny, and since we have no fractions of pennies, I think you got it.

I have a half-cent from a very long time ago. About the size of a quarter.

what do I get? do you have any pipe weed?

366 Daisy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:28:59am

re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Be courteous, professional and prepared to kill everyone you meet at a moment's notice.

And never underestimate the power of the 'weak'.

367 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:29:03am

re: #308 Occasional Reader

Comment dit-on "duct tape" en francais?

Large Hadron Supercollider breaks down again

Aww ...
So much work - and then there's just a little screw loose, somewhere ...

(On the other hand, isn't it an amazing coincidence that the financial world went into turmoil when the LHC worked, after a fashion - and now, that its down, we see the DOW up and all? I mean - it all ahngs together, don't it, sacks of rice falling voer in china, butterflies and tornadoes ... we're all doooomed, I tellya, dooooomed!)

368 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:29:14am

re: #346 Ford_Prefect

He looks like an old scowling lesbian, imho.

369 PAgirlinNC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:29:29am

Not sure if this one was ever posted. It has some old footage of Obama that I had not seen before...
Obama

370 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:29:34am

re: #261 MandyManners

Or, to trip over a bundle of feline fur and fall down the stairs.

371 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:29:58am

re: #365 Eowyn2

I have a half-cent from a very long time ago. About the size of a quarter.

what do I get? do you have any pipe weed?

To quote my friend David Jackson "No, No, No, I don't smoke it no more"

372 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:30:01am

re: #273 JacksonTn

Do you think they are members of Uhuru? I think they were protesting at one of his rallys once:

[Link: www.uhurunews.com...]

I had never heard of this outfit so I clicked your link and was treated to these headlines:

New York courts say killer cops justified in 50-bullet murder of Sean Bell!
Mistrial declared again in frame-up of Liberty City 7!
African dies in Belgian immigration officials' brutal custody!

That's some mighty fine objective journalism there, Lou.

373 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:30:04am

re: #345 faraway

Help me understand this:

Bradley effect: A belief by liberals whereby racists admit to pollsters they are voting for a black man.

Something like that. The liberal "logic" is that all good white people want a black President ('cause we owe it to them, or something), therefore all good white people will tell pollsters they'll vote for the black man, 'cause they don't want to look like racists. But of course, since they are white people, they can't help but be deeply racist and xenophibic to the core, so of course they'll betray the black man and vote another old racist Christian heterosexual white man into office.

Yes, that really is the way your liberal friends think. Makes you want to take a shower, doesn't it?

374 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:30:05am

re: #370 opnion


Shouldn't have posted

375 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:30:24am

re: #368 vagabond trader

He looks like an old scowling lesbian, imho.

Sandra Bernhardt? I thought that was a woman.

376 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:30:46am

re: #365 Eowyn2

Now, now, now... You be sailin' no SmokeyThreeMasters through this channel, Matey.

377 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:30:56am

re: #352 Cap'n DOC

Is that what we're supposed to do with it?

/I always look under the couch cushions. CHANGE!

Hope Floats.. Flush twice
/Bumpersticker material?

378 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:31:01am

re: #355 vagabond trader

CT is losing population like a sieve.Not business friendly, taxes too high, waaaay too much government, and populated by snootier than thous. Other than that, I have a nice modest place in the country which will be unaffordable once the old man retires.

But you have to balance that with all the free nutmeg.

379 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:31:07am

re: #351 eschew_obfuscation

No....the Bradley effect is the idea that people do not always answer honestly when asked if they will vote for a black/minority......overstating the vote for the black/minority.

So, they must be racist. And they admit they are voting for a black man.

This defies any logic.

All polls skew toward Dems.

I'm just saying that I believe the "Bradley effect" is a figment of liberals' twisted imaginations.

380 Spider Mensch  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:31:07am

re: #331 unreconstructed rebel

The Obama-Iraq thing is not going away.

Obama, just makes things up as he goes along, doesn't he? it would be funny if it wasn't that he's running for POTUS. I was for a time in the mind frame of "I diagree with everything he says and stands for, but even if elected how bad could he f*ck things up? we kind of survived carter, thanks to Reagan" but now I really and truly believe obama is dangerous to every American and to the country itself if, elected.

381 Alouette  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:31:08am

re: #375 Racer X

Sandra Bernhardt? I thought that was a woman.

I think she has stolen the CBF title from Michelle.

382 Daisy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:31:20am

re: #347 buzzsawmonkey

Joe Biden is always putting in plugs for Delaware.

Oh. So that's why he's putting in all those hair plugs. He's patriotic. And here I thought it was because he was a giving himself the complete ass look. Wait. What? Plugs. Oh those plugs. :)

383 Irene NYC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:31:24am

re: #337 vagabond trader

Prolly Dodd's ancestors.


Dodd's dad, a very influential U.S. Senator, was censured for using campaign funds for personal expenses. It was a huge scandal at the time. HUGH. People just couldn't believe he did it because, back then, it was an unthinkable breach of the public trust.

That was then, and this is now. Go look at his son, Chris.

I could puke.

384 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:31:25am

re: #363 rawmuse

The quote from the US Mint (from several months ago) was
2.7 cents for each penny
7.5 cents for each nickel.

I awarded the win to Eowyn, allowing for the round up to the nearest penny.

*snap*

I KEEELLLLL my source!
/ ;-P

385 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:32:05am

re: #379 faraway

So, they must be racist. And they admit they are voting for a black man.

This defies any logic.

All polls skew toward Dems.

I'm just saying that I believe the "Bradley effect" is a figment of liberals' twisted imaginations.

They don't have to be racist.....just not want to appear racist.

386 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:32:07am

re: #377 HoosierHoops

No. Flush Early - Flush Often.

387 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:32:08am
388 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:32:17am

re: #357 Ford_Prefect

The land of oppressive humidity.

389 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:32:25am

re: #365 Eowyn2

I have a half-cent from a very long time ago. About the size of a quarter.

what do I get? do you have any pipe weed?

Might be worth something:

390 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:33:01am

the "Bradley effect" is and it is a figment of liberals' twisted imaginations.

391 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:33:03am

re: #378 debutaunt

lol, lots of free acorns in the yard too. One thing this bloody state cannot tax or control is my sweet well water. Everytime I turn that faucet on I get a thrill up my leg.

392 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:33:26am

re: #380 Spider Mensch

The prospect of him president with the current criminals in Congress scares the shit out of me.

393 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:33:28am

re: #355 vagabond trader

CT is losing population like a sieve. (means more room for the rest of us)
Not business friendly, taxes too high, waaaay too much government, (agree with you there)
and populated by snootier than thous. (mostly in the southwest corner and they are more New Yorkers than they are Connecticutonians)
Other than that, I have a nice modest place in the country which will be unaffordable once the old man retires. (not the way the housing prices are going..and yes I know that is a bad thing)

394 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:33:46am

oops - scratch 390

395 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:33:53am

re: #391 vagabond trader

/Channeling somebody, I'm just not sure who it is...

396 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:33:54am
397 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:34:19am

re: #323 Eowyn2

8 cents per nickel
3 cents per penny

REALLY! You know what this means? It means that what Grouch Marx predicted in "Animal Crackers" has finally come true!

"Now, why not give the seven-cent nickel a chance? If that works out, next year we could have an eight-cent nickel. Think what that would mean. You could go to a newsstand, buy a three-cent newspaper and get the same nickel back again. One nickel carefully used would last a family a lifetime!"


And now we actually have an eight cent nickel!

A great day for America I tell ya'!

398 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:34:57am

re: #363 rawmuse

The quote from the US Mint (from several months ago) was
2.7 cents for each penny
7.5 cents for each nickel.

I awarded the win to Eowyn, allowing for the round up to the nearest penny.


I feel like I just won Jeopardy.

399 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:35:14am

re: #395 Cap'n DOC

why it must be Chrissy Matthews, the demoted asshole from msnbc who has a man crush on the Obama.

400 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:35:25am

re: #379 faraway

I'm just saying that I believe the "Bradley effect" is a figment of liberals' twisted imaginations.

No, it's real.

/just look at this year's Bonkey primaries in some states where it was polling close and ended with Hillary mopping the floor with Obama

401 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:35:41am

re: #388 debutaunt

The land of oppressive humidity.

You ever been to Florida in July?

402 Tarkus289  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:35:56am

Never underestimate the curtain...

403 JacksonTn  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:36:02am

re: #372 doppelganglander

I had never heard of this outfit so I clicked your link and was treated to these headlines:

New York courts say killer cops justified in 50-bullet murder of Sean Bell!
Mistrial declared again in frame-up of Liberty City 7!
African dies in Belgian immigration officials' brutal custody!

That's some mighty fine objective journalism there, Lou.

Yes, they are a fine group those Uhurus. They are also brothers in arms with La Raza groups. Not that you will see them on the official La Raza website but sites of supporters of La Raza. The main thing they have in common - down with the white man and reparations.

I am sure it was the Uhuru people that were protesting at his rally once before.

404 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:36:29am

re: #342 Perplexed

I think that ground nutmeg was put into hot, high alcohol content drinks.

That's probably why I don't remember any more about the local culture there...

405 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:36:40am

re: #398 Eowyn2

I feel like I just won Jeopardy.

On Sunday night I will list the names of all of this weeks WINNAHs!

406 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:37:04am

re: #400 Killian Bundy

No, it's real.

/just look at this year's Bonkey primaries in some states where it was polling close and ended with Hillary mopping the floor with Obama

Or, does that prove that polls are done in big cities (where Obama supporters live)?

407 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:37:18am

re: #398 Eowyn2

Okay, now for the bonus question: How many One Dollar bills does the Mint print every year, and how many trees are destroyed each year to do it?

(yes, it's a double-trick question)

408 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:37:31am

re: #383 Irene NYC

Big time scandal when I was a kid. I think the old man was a judge or lawyer at the Nuremburg trials. Power sure do corrupt.

409 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:38:02am

re: #199 buzzsawmonkey

You're bang on. That whole slacker resentment syndrome is nothing more than the inner child's anger at the slowly dawning realization that childhood is over. There are several strategies to put off accepting that fact. One is to stay in school, the eternal student working on his degree. The smart ones manage to parley that into a career in academia. The other method is to smoke lots of dope hoping to keep in a childish dreamlike state. The angrier ones join the ranks of the professional protesters, the trustafarians, constantly venting their anger at the "man". The vain among them become movie stars & celebrities. The ambitious ones go into politics.

410 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:38:05am
411 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:38:11am

re: #407 Lizard by the Bay

Okay,
now for the bonus question: How many One Dollar bills does the Mint
print every year, and how many trees are destroyed each year to do it?

(yes, it's a double-trick question)

None & None.

412 GGMac  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:38:27am

re: #95 doppelganglander

That's lovely. I added it to my favorites - first time I ever used that feature.


Written on fancy paper many, many years ago, it became a treasured 20th anniversary card, which hubby still has in a drawer...

:)

413 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:38:28am

re: #391 vagabond trader

lol, lots of free acorns in the yard too. One thing this bloody state cannot tax or control is my sweet well water. Everytime I turn that faucet on I get a thrill up my leg.

I used to live there - the well water was wonderful.

414 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:38:38am

Lizards, I am calling it a day.

Going to see if I can beat the I-66 traffic back into the hinterlands.

415 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:38:56am

re: #399 vagabond trader

Ya see, I don't watch TV, but I do spend my time here getting all the news I need. I remember somebody talking about tingling....

416 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:39:04am

Before Obama was so rudely interupted did he lay out his polisah for the economah?

417 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:39:11am

The monkeys are on it today! Yes, "paper" money is made of cotton, and no, the Mint doesn't print any of it.

418 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:39:18am
419 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:39:20am

re: #383 Irene NYC

Dodd's dad, a very influential U.S. Senator, was censured for using campaign funds for personal expenses. It was a huge scandal at the time. HUGH. People just couldn't believe he did it because, back then, it was an unthinkable breach of the public trust.

That was then, and this is now. Go look at his son, Chris.

I could puke.

Yeah, the nutmeg didn't fall far from that tree.

420 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:39:47am

re: #406 faraway

Or, does that prove that polls are done in big cities (where Obama supporters live)?

No.

/reputable pollsters are careful with their sampling

421 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:40:08am

re: #401 Ford_Prefect

You ever been to Florida in July?

No, it was May - I'm not a complete fool.

422 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:40:10am

re: #413 debutaunt

I used to live there - the well water was wonderful.

Gah - now I'm thirsty - getting meself a glass of water right now!

423 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:40:22am

re: #397 CIA Reject

I coulda used one of them a long time ago.

424 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:41:18am

re: #338 Eowyn2

I went to a science school at the end of the 80s. Everyone there watched the smart bombs fall on Iraq and wanted to switch majors to computer science or math.

Like in 1957 when that MIT student ran through the dorm yelling "the Russians are in space we've all got jobs!" when the news broke about Sputnik.

425 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:41:22am

re: #405 rawmuse

On Sunday night I will list the names of all of this weeks WINNAHs!

I protest! The answer was not in the form of a question!

426 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:41:40am

re: #401 Ford_Prefect

You ever been to Florida in July?

D.C. in August?
Atlanta May-October !

427 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:41:46am

re: #404 CIA Reject

Hot toddies and or syllabub. Still delicious on a cold new England eve.

428 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:42:19am

I WON'T VOTE FOR A SOCIALIST!

/even if he is half Caucasian

429 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:43:06am

re: #410 buzzsawmonkey

The paper that American currency is printed on is made with cotton fibers.

I know - I know! Cotton trees!

430 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:43:47am

re: #427 vagabond trader

Hey, did you get to the Big 'E' this year? If you go check out the spice dealer in the CT building. Good stuff. The Mrs. and I love them.

431 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:43:47am

re: #428 Killian Bundy

Socialism, whether it involves the wearing of a red shirt, black shirt or a brown shirt has no loyalty to color.

432 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:44:01am
433 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:44:27am

re: #405 rawmuse

On Sunday night I will list the names of all of this weeks WINNAHs!


What no sports questions?
What was the name of the pitcher that struck out in a row the 3 greatest hitters of thier era during an all-star game..Ruth, Gehrig and Foxx?
A. Carl Hubbell
/McCain was there
..just teasing..

434 Mardukhai  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:44:38am

Aye, it be International Talk Like a Pirate Day!

Arrrrrrrr.

Even Google be observin'!

435 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:45:16am

re: #428 Killian Bundy

I WON'T VOTE FOR A SOCIALIST!

/even if he is half Caucasian

Socialistist!

436 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:45:17am

re: #430 Ford_Prefect

Haven't been in years.The Woodstock Fair is much closer and a bit more traditional. Yum, spice, exotic spice.

437 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:45:33am

re: #433 HoosierHoops

I am not done yet.

There will be 2 more TRIVAI quizzes.

I chose the topic of money for today because it is on everyone's mind.

438 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:45:48am
439 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:45:59am

re: #429 debutaunt

I know - I know! CottonWOOD trees!

You type too fast, don't finish words.

440 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:46:24am
441 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:46:29am

re: #427 vagabond trader

Hot toddies and or syllabub. Still delicious on a cold new England eve.

Absolutely!

You're still freezing your ass off, but you no longer care :-)

442 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:46:37am

re: #431 Syrah

Socialism, whether it involves the wearing of a red shirt, black shirt or a brown shirt has no loyalty to color.

including green

443 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:46:38am

re: #434 Mardukhai

Aye, it be International Talk Like a Pirate Day!

Arrrrrrrr.

Even Google be observin'!


Yaaaar, me hardy's. This be bigger than Walk Like an Egyptian Day!

444 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:46:59am

re: #300 Pyrocles

I have kind of an interesting perspective on college because I started at a community college and didn't finish until almost 20 years later. I think I benefited by going to non-elite, no-name schools. I was exposed to very little PC garbage, amazingly enough, even though I was an English major. Even my African American Literature professor was pretty fair, maybe in part because she was brand new and untenured.

And buzzsawmonkey, I hate to say it, but I love "The Catcher in the Rye." Holden is everything you say he is, but I love it anyway. I've probably read it a dozen times since I was about 12.

445 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:47:12am

re: #438 buzzsawmonkey

You can actually pulp up your old cotton shirts, or trousers, and make them into paper.

Excellent! I'm gonna use that as an insult!

446 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:47:19am

re: #434 Mardukhai

Google be walkin' the plank, Matey.

447 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:47:33am
448 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:48:02am

re: #442 midwestgak

including green

Ah yes. . . . the watermelon socialist, green on the outside, red on the inside.

449 Meremortal  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:48:03am

Hey Lizards, I have just enough time for a drive-by post.

Joe Biden says paying more taxes is patriotic.

If he is correct, all I can say is,

"This is not the America I thought I knew."

450 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:48:54am
451 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:49:31am

re: #443 opnion

Yaaaar, me hardy's. This be bigger than Walk Like an Egyptian Day!

Arr, 'twas a fine celebratin' day 'till Susanna Hoffs started lookin' like me deck swab. Arrrgh.

452 llanite  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:50:03am

re: #426 sattv4u2

D.C. in August?
Atlanta May-October !

or Houston any day of the year?

When I moved here they told me that Houston has 3 seasons - summer, July, and August.... though I have to admit God sent a very pleasant cool front here the week after Ike - really helped the 'no AC and no TV make the pregnant wife go something something....'

453 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:50:18am

re: #448 Syrah

Ah yes. . . . the watermelon socialist, green on the outside, red on the inside.

RACIST!

/

454 Tamron  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:51:11am

re: #155 newsjunkie_ky

Ha!
Teleprompter man still reading his message.

Yeah, protesting is ok, but it's a felony to disconnect his teleprompter.

The specific crime? PUBLICLY UNPLUGGING A LIBERAL FROM HIS HANDLER.
.

455 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:51:18am
456 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:51:48am

re: #433 HoosierHoops

What no sports questions?
What
was the name of the pitcher that struck out in a row the 3 greatest
hitters of thier era during an all-star game..Ruth, Gehrig and Foxx?
A. Carl Hubbell
/McCain was there
..just teasing..

Not a trivia question, as I don't have the answer, but who was the last NHL goalie to wear the old-style "Jason" hockey mask? Anyone know?

457 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:52:11am

re: #445 debutaunt

Excellent! I'm gonna use that as an insult!

I was going to add it to my resume

458 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:52:39am

Has anyone here read, or is reading, Neal Stephensons new book Anathem?

459 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:53:13am

re: #454 Tamron

Like the Skywarrior!

460 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:53:39am

re: #452 llanite

or Houston any day of the year?

When I moved here they told me that Houston has 3 seasons - summer, July, and August.... though I have to admit God sent a very pleasant cool front here the week after Ike - really helped the 'no AC and no TV make the pregnant wife go something something....'

I have a cousin who lives in northern Maine. He says they have two seasons there:Winter and the Fourth of July.

Mrs. Reject is from Pennsylvania where, says she, they have four seasons:
Almost Winter
Winter
Still Winter
Construction

461 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:53:44am

re: #437 rawmuse

I am not done yet.

There will be 2 more TRIVAI quizzes.

I chose the topic of money for today because it is on everyone's mind.

LOL
I was just guilt tripping you raw...:)

462 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:53:46am

re: #455 buzzsawmonkey

Forget watermelon socialists, and try a watermelon radish if you can find them. Beautiful and very tasty.

So it the green bean potato/ Delish.

463 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:54:02am

re: #458 Creeping Eruption

Not yet. I will pick it up this weekend.

464 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:54:46am
465 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:54:49am

My point is this, the Bonkeys are already carefully laying the groundwork for the meme that if Obama loses it'll be because America is chock full of racists.

/NO, IF OBAMA LOSES, IT'LL BE BECAUSE AMERICA REJECTS SOCIALISM!

466 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:54:52am

re: #463 Dianna

Not yet. I will pick it up this weekend.

Stephenson fan?

467 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:54:56am

re: #436 vagabond trader

If you haven't been in a long time I would suggest going. You might be surprised at how different it is now.

I did go to the Hebron fair as well. America was performing. We didn't stay.

468 vapig  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:55:24am

re: #401 Ford_Prefect

You ever been to Florida in July?

pssst! Try August in Virginia! Why do you think the congresscritters bug-out in August? Brits actually get hazard pay to work here because of August in DC.

469 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:55:31am

Hope is an excuse for not doing anything.

- Rush

470 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:55:41am

re: #465 Killian Bundy
NO, IF OBAMA LOSES, IT'LL BE BECAUSE AMERICA REJECTS SOCIALISM!

WE HAVE A WINNAH!

471 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:56:06am
472 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:56:14am

re: #455 buzzsawmonkey

Forget watermelon socialists, and try a watermelon radish if you can find them. Beautiful and very tasty.

I will keep an eye out for them. The produce sections of the local supermarkets are pretty week on selection. Next time I go to Pikes Place I will see if any are availible.

473 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:56:18am

re: #460 CIA Reject

We have three here as well: Snow, Mud & Dust.

474 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:56:35am

re: #468 vapig

pssst! Try August in Virginia! Why do you think the congresscritters bug-out in August? Brits actually get hazard pay to work here because of August in DC.

Spent an August in Williamsburg once. Made the summer I spent the next year in Long Island feel like paradise.

475 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:56:57am

re: #456 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Not a trivia question, as I don't have the answer, but who was the last NHL goalie to wear the old-style "Jason" hockey mask? Anyone know?

/mmm never watch hockey.. I heard it wasn't dead..but it sure smells funny

476 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:57:00am
477 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:57:08am

re: #452 llanite

or Houston any day of the year?

When I moved here they told me that Houston has 3 seasons - summer, July, and August.... though I have to admit God sent a very pleasant cool front here the week after Ike - really helped the 'no AC and no TV make the pregnant wife go something something....'

It was very good of the Canadians to send us that nice cold air.

Houston has at least two weeks of fall and two weeks of spring almost every year. Oktoberfest weather is typically still somewhat hot, and about the time it wraps up it's fall. Somewhere in November the rainy season (i.e., winter) starts, but it can fool you, as I have mowed my grandmother's yard on many a Christmas Eve.

478 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:57:17am

re: #469 Racer X

Hope is an excuse for not doing anything.

- Rush

I think she'll do well, it's still a long way from having a application accepted by an LE agency to being sworn in.

479 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:57:37am

re: #461 HoosierHoops

LOL
I was just guilt tripping you raw...:)

I know ;) I am having fun making the TRIVIA quizzes.
But Coz can have it back when he returns.

480 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:57:49am

re: #468 vapig

pssst! Try August in Virginia! Why do you think the congresscritters bug-out in August? Brits actually get hazard pay to work here because of August in DC.

Heard somewhere that Maine has just three seasons. Winter, Mud and Blackfly.

481 pink freud  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:57:56am

re: #476 buzzsawmonkey

Haha!

482 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:58:12am

re: #476 buzzsawmonkey

Yup. Heavy All on the Brass (Balls) section.

483 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:58:19am

re: #464 buzzsawmonkey

The green bean potato? Never heard of that one. Tell more.

You can snap em, boil em. They grow on trees and are ready for harvest on the 2nd Thursday in August. They are native to Lanflakia.

484 vapig  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:58:29am

re: #471 buzzsawmonkey

Yes, the tragedy of air conditioning is that the federal government now works year-round.

LOLOL! Spot ON!

New slogan - Pull the plug on congress during the summer and watch your wallet GROW!

485 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:59:05am

With in the bounds of Washington State law, I can only comment on how the winters here are long and involve much gray drizzle and rain.

The summers are a state secret so don't ask.

486 llanite  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:59:32am

re: #477 OldLineTexan

It was very good of the Canadians to send us that nice cold air.

Agreed, while usually I blame Canada, I'm with you in thanking them today. Did you and yours do alright with Ike?

487 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:00:01pm

re: #465 Killian Bundy

Sorry, but you know as well as anyone that the meme was already chosen well in advance and with advice and consent of the Obama campaign - you (we) are racist if he doesn't win. It will not matter to the media elites what reason is given; they're going to stick to the race baiting line. /meme suck

488 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:00:06pm

re: #485 Syrah

We make a trip to Hunters every year in June.

Shhhhhh.

489 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:00:07pm

re: #485 Syrah

With in the bounds of Washington State law, I can only comment on how the winters here are long and involve much gray drizzle and rain.

The summers are a state secret so don't ask.

all 6 days of it ?

490 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:00:16pm

re: #485 Syrah

From what I hear, you have been enjoying extraordinarily good weather!

491 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:00:39pm

re: #471 buzzsawmonkey

Yes, the tragedy of air conditioning is that the federal government now works year-round.

I still think that George Washington was very wise to place the capital city in the hottest and most humid and mosquito infested swamp he could find so that government officials would:

A) Do their business quickly
B) Go Home
and, most importantly
C) NOT WANT TO COME BACK!

492 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:01:29pm

re: #485 Syrah

Whoops. Forgot to mention - it's North of Davenport. You have to get off the couch to get there.

493 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:01:34pm

re: #469 Racer X

Hope is an excuse for not doing anything.

- Rush

Hah! And when that fails, sue. That's what NJ is looking to do to Lehman Bros., over pension losses. The one thing the state can and should do - cut spending - it will not do.

494 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:01:37pm

re: #491 CIA Reject

I still think that George Washington was very wise to place the capital city in the hottest and most humid and mosquito infested swamp he could find so that government officials would:

A) Do their business quickly
B) Go Home
and, most importantly
C) NOT WANT TO COME BACK!

Or it was just the shittiest land that no one wanted

495 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:01:45pm

Is time already to kick off the FADT?

The weather's getting cooler, that end-of-summer feeling is in the air.

496 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:01:47pm

re: #486 llanite

Agreed, while usually I blame Canada, I'm with you in thanking them today. Did you and yours do alright with Ike?

We survived with minor complaints and were very fortunate. Even got power back on Wednesday night.

I have a big pile of chopped-up oak tree and less money.

I will soon have a fence completely standing up and even less money.

And I am getting a generator even if it harelips every cow in Harris county.

For next time.

497 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:01:49pm

re: #485 Syrah

With in the bounds of Washington State law, I can only comment on how the winters here are long and involve much gray drizzle and rain.

The summers are a state secret so don't ask.

I've heard it said that if it weren't for the winters, Minnesota and Wisconsin would have to build a moat to keep everyone out. Their summers are supposed to be exceptional. I still haven't made my way up there yet.

498 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:02:00pm

re: #477 OldLineTexan

It was very good of the Canadians to send us that nice cold air.

Houston has at least two weeks of fall and two weeks of spring almost every year. Oktoberfest weather is typically still somewhat hot, and about the time it wraps up it's fall. Somewhere in November the rainy season (i.e., winter) starts, but it can fool you, as I have mowed my grandmother's yard on many a Christmas Eve.

HEH!

Just got a text from my son in Houston.......he was told at Target that fans are 'out of season'. He said....who knew there were seasons in Houston? (he was only partly kidding).

499 big steve  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:02:46pm

Well get aload of this......How We Vote....In our Genes

I don't buy it. I am one of four siblings all ages within six years. One sister is a complete BDS liberal, other sister is is a blue collar democrate, I, pretty much middle (voted for Clinton twice and Bush jr twice), and a brother who is very very conservative and pulls the Rep lever universally. If it was genetic how would this be.

500 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:03:06pm

re: #490 rawmuse

From what I hear, you have been enjoying extraordinarily good weather!

Officially, Washingtonians are only allowed to comment on how much it rains here.

501 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:03:12pm

re: #498 eschew_obfuscation

I would assume they're being used to dry stuff out not keep people cool...

502 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:03:12pm
503 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:03:21pm

re: #498 eschew_obfuscation

HEH!

Just got a text from my son in Houston.......he was told at Target that fans are 'out of season'. He said....who knew there were seasons in Houston? (he was only partly kidding).

There are two: The rainy season, and the hot season. Note that neither are mutually exclusive at any given time.

504 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:03:23pm
Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama says he backs giving "broad authority" to the US Treasury Department to deal with the burgeoning credit crisis, but says he is not spelling out details of his own plans to avoid roiling the markets. Obama said he will refrain for now from presenting a more detailed blueprint. He said any recovery plan should be guided by not rewarding reckless business leaders.
"I think now we have to have the broad-based middle-class tax cuts," Obama said.


/shit. He doesn't know what a working middle class is.
The ‘MAN’ ran his community organization business using government hand outs, Medicare, Medicaid, Work First, Low Rent Housing and Earning Income Credits.
It was just an extension for his stepping into the Senate job. Without the government handouts How long would he have survived?
He then tells us we are headed into the Greatest Depression,
And now he is going to give us his blue print for the recovery of the world economy?
It would Roil/Roll the frigging markets alright. Still might!
I think I prefer McCain and Bush telling everyone to calm down and work together to get through this.
Probably preaching to the choir,
but we need to vote for McCain and Palin.
Obama is a social chasing liar-Senator.

505 kansas  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:03:29pm

re: #465 Killian Bundy

My point is this, the Bonkeys are already carefully laying the groundwork for the meme that if Obama loses it'll be because America is chock full of racists.

/NO, IF OBAMA LOSES, IT'LL BE BECAUSE AMERICA REJECTS SOCIALISM!

Sorry, that groundwork is firmly in place.

506 Alouette  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:03:49pm

re: #499 big steve

Well get aload of this......How We Vote....In our Genes

I don't buy it. I am one of four siblings all ages within six years. One sister is a complete BDS liberal, other sister is is a blue collar democrate, I, pretty much middle (voted for Clinton twice and Bush jr twice), and a brother who is very very conservative and pulls the Rep lever universally. If it was genetic how would this be.

My mom is a raving liberal moonbat.

507 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:04:04pm

Well, I must be off to start my weekend. I wish you all the best and look forward to our next meeting.

*towel over the shoulder, walks off into the sunset with thumb raised in the air.

508 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:04:11pm

re: #499 big steve

I dunno. Milk ain't delivered any more...

509 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:04:19pm

re: #497 Lizard by the Bay

I've heard it said that if it weren't for the winters, Minnesota and Wisconsin would have to build a moat to keep everyone out. Their summers are supposed to be exceptional. I still haven't made my way up there yet.

Wisconsin is the est kept secret in the US. As I write this I am looking out my window at blue skies, light breeze and 76 degrees. Winters can be brutal, but the snow has its own beauty and we are usually outside in the winter as much as in the summer. Fall around here is too beautiful for words.

510 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:05:01pm
511 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:05:04pm

re: #494 Creeping Eruption

Or it was just the shittiest land that no one wanted

That's the other side of the George Washington was a [genuine genius/lucky idiot] debate. :-)

512 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:05:04pm

re: #502 buzzsawmonkey

See, that's another bond the US has with Israel: the original halutzim (pioneers) built their kibbutzes on the swampy, throw-away land that the landowners were glad to dump on the poor suckers.

You forgot: . . .and turned it into something to envy.

513 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:05:06pm

re: #498 eschew_obfuscation

HEH!

Just got a text from my son in Houston.......he was told at Target that fans are 'out of season'. He said....who knew there were seasons in Houston? (he was only partly kidding).

Heard the same thing at a Walmart regarding space heaters in January.

514 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:05:07pm

re: #498 eschew_obfuscation

HEH!

Just got a text from my son in Houston.......he was told at Target that fans are 'out of season'. He said....who knew there were seasons in Houston? (he was only partly kidding).

Buying an electric fan this time of year is difficult, believe it or not, especially in the 'burbs.

Target lives and dies by the planogram, and that section of most stores is half an aisle.

He may have to go to Wal-Mart (much of the same issue) or Home Depot or Lowe's. Costco has an abundance of the tower type at the 249 store.

515 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:05:11pm

re: #508 Cap'n DOC

I dunno. Milk ain't delivered any more...

Yeah. Too many neighborhood kids looked like the milkman.

516 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:05:20pm

re: #495 Kenneth

Is time already to kick off the FADT?

/oh yeah!

517 SouthAmericanWay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:05:27pm

So many wonderful ads from McCain today. My favorite was THIS ONE - Obama: he loves America-haters.

Do you want to avoid the election of the most radical major-party presidential candidate in American history? Do you want to avoid Socialism in America?

You can help! Sign up online. Or send contributions to the RNC or to the McCain-Palin Victory Fund 2008 (you may contribute here).

What about your neighbors, friends, relatives, acquaintances: have you been trying to persuade them to vote for McCain, reminding them that Obama is a true Socialist with a shady history and dangerous connections?

518 kansas  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:05:30pm

[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]

Any bets on how the Obama campaign will talk the market down starting............3...2....1.

519 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:05:31pm

re: #501 Cap'n DOC

I would assume they're being used to dry stuff out not keep people cool...

No....the kids are dry.....down by the medical center/astrodome.

No flooding, no damage, electricity out 14 hours the night/day of Ike, one brief outage last night.

Thank God!

520 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:05:34pm

In Alberta, there are 2 seasons: winter & July.

521 llanite  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:05:53pm

re: #496 OldLineTexan

Glad to hear you're OK - money can be replaced (just ask our Treasury Secretary). I agree about the generator! We got power back early, but are now the official soup-kitchen for my wife's family - never less than 8 at dinner and a line for the showers as they come in from sawing and patching their houses... We were all very fortunate this time.

522 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:06:29pm

re: #509 Creeping Eruption

Wisconsin is the est kept secret in the US. As I write this I am looking out my window at blue skies, light breeze and 76 degrees. Winters can be brutal, but the snow has its own beauty and we are usually outside in the winter as much as in the summer. Fall around here is too beautiful for words.

And they have cheese and bratwurst.

523 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:06:35pm

re: #478 jcm

I think she'll do well, it's still a long way from having a application accepted by an LE agency to being sworn in.

Yep. Still it gives people, er, hope!

524 hazzyday  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:06:57pm

re: #497 Lizard by the Bay

The Mosquitos in Minnesota are large enough to carry rack mounted guns.

525 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:07:16pm

re: #509 Creeping Eruption

Wisconsin is the est kept secret in the US. ... Fall around here is too beautiful for words.

You aint kiddin. Would drive up to the Dells late Sept/early Oct. Beautiful colors on either side of the highway for mile after georgeous mile. And all hilly and such (unlike flat IL).

526 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:07:25pm
527 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:07:40pm

re: #514 OldLineTexan

Buying an electric fan this time of year is difficult, believe it or not, especially in the 'burbs.

Target lives and dies by the planogram, and that section of most stores is half an aisle.

He may have to go to Wal-Mart (much of the same issue) or Home Depot or Lowe's. Costco has an abundance of the tower type at the 249 store.

Thanks, I'll send that to him!

528 WindHorse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:07:41pm

re: #522 OldLineTexan

...and beer.

529 The Other Les  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:08:04pm

I just got back home from the McCain-Palin Rally at the Anoka County Airport.

The public address system sucked.

I was halfway down the very large hangar at the north end of the airport (someone could really play football in there) and about half the time it sounded like SP and JSM were blessing the cheese makers.

It would have really helped to have another set of loudspeakers about halfway down the hangar.

Also a woman fainted about ten feet away from me when JSM and SP arrived.

530 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:08:09pm

re: #505 kansas

Sorry, that groundwork is firmly in place.

When Obama loses they get that rug pulled out from underneath them for the next 25 years.

531 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:08:12pm

re: #521 llanite

Glad to hear you're OK - money can be replaced (just ask our Treasury Secretary). I agree about the generator! We got power back early, but are now the official soup-kitchen for my wife's family - never less than 8 at dinner and a line for the showers as they come in from sawing and patching their houses... We were all very fortunate this time.

Good to hear. Big families and extended neighborhood dinners are fun. We attended two "cook it all" dinners that were just incredibly enjoyable on Monday and Tuesday night.

532 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:08:29pm

re: #522 OldLineTexan

And they have cheese and bratwurst.

Just had a brat for lunch.

533 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:08:33pm

re: #522 OldLineTexan

And they have cheese and bratwurst.

....and Cheeseheads, and cheese curds, and fried cheese.....

534 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:08:52pm
535 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:08:58pm

re: #521 llanite

Good to hear.

536 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:09:05pm

re: #489 sattv4u2

all 6 days of it ?

I can neither confirm nor deny. . .

Seattle may be full of moonbats but it is worth a summer trip as a vacation destination. If you come in the winter, dress warm.

537 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:09:36pm

re: #300 Pyrocles

Engineering is the opposite of politics.

538 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:09:43pm

Well, 45 days until the election and the Obama campaign, at least for now, just had the economy issue kicked out from under it. What now?

/Fire Water Burn

539 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:09:48pm

re: #525 midwestgak

You aint kiddin. Would drive up to the Dells late Sept/early Oct. Beautiful colors on either side of the highway for mile after georgeous mile. And all hilly and such (unlike flat IL).

My drive to work is 30 min of exactly that. I could get to work in 10 min if I took the highway, but why?

540 The Other Les  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:09:48pm

re: #524 hazzyday

The Mosquitos in Minnesota are large enough to carry rack mounted guns.

Not really. It only feels like they do.

541 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:10:07pm

re: #536 Syrah

I can neither confirm nor deny. . .

Seattle may be full of moonbats but it is worth a summer trip as a vacation destination. If you come in the winter, dress warm.

Been There, Done That, Got the Cold

542 AK oilfield worker  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:10:49pm
Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama says he backs giving "broad authority" to the US Treasury Department to deal with the burgeoning credit crisis, but says he is not spelling out details of his own plans to avoid roiling the markets. Obama said he will refrain for now from presenting a more detailed blueprint. He said any recovery plan should be guided by not rewarding reckless business leaders.
"I think now we have to have the broad-based middle-class tax cuts," Obama said.

But I thought paying more taxes was our patriotic duty?

543 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:10:51pm

re: #533 eschew_obfuscation

....and Cheeseheads, and cheese curds, and fried cheese.....

You would be amazed at how little cheese I eat. Now beer, our other passion, that is another story.

544 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:10:55pm

I wonder how long "they" let Franklin Raines loot Fannie Mae (taking for himself over $100 million) because they didn't want to be called racists. Now look where we are. By the way, he's a Harvard graduate. I say he's nothing but a street punk graduate with fraud as his major. Why is Andrew Fastow of Enron in jail and Franklin Raines is not?

545 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:11:02pm

re: #528 WindHorse

...and beer.

We have beer here that I will put up against Wisconsin's, but no cheese or bratwurst to compete locally. I am too far from the majoe areas of Texas settled by Germans to get the good stuff.

546 Big Steve  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:11:09pm

re: #503 Lizard by the Bay

There are two: The rainy season, and the hot season. Note that neither are mutually exclusive at any given time.

We have seasons! Large black roach season and non large black roach season.

547 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:11:14pm

re: #532 Creeping Eruption

Just had a brat for lunch.

Did he quit crying and screaming and kicking :)

548 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:11:23pm

re: #534 buzzsawmonkey

You ogre, you.

Smothered in sourkraut, raw onions, relish, brown mustard. . .

549 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:11:38pm

re: #517 SouthAmericanWay

What a kick-ass ad.

550 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:12:20pm

re: #542 AK oilfield worker

But I thought paying more taxes was our patriotic duty?

But isn't dissent the greatest form of patriotism?

So as a Patriot I'll dissent from paying BO's higher taxes!

551 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:12:32pm

re: #542 AK oilfield worker

But I thought paying more taxes was our patriotic duty?

I already signed up,
sort of like the Draft for better taxes.

552 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:12:41pm

re: #546 Big Steve

We have seasons! Large black roach season and non large black roach season.

LOL. Exactly why I do not keep firewood!

553 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:12:46pm

re: #543 Creeping Eruption

You would be amazed at how little cheese I eat. Now beer, our other passion, that is another story.

I actually don't think most of the locals eat that much cheese.......it's the tourists and business people from out of state. I've been traveling to Appleton for 2 1/2 years on business.

554 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:13:17pm

re: #547 midwestgak

Did he quit crying and screaming and kicking :)

It was a handful to be sure, but I choked em down

555 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:14:02pm

re: #542 AK oilfield worker

But I thought paying more taxes was our patriotic duty?

Funny how the idea of STOP SPENDING MONEY ON BULLSHIT never crosses their minds as a means to deal with debt

556 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:14:36pm
557 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:15:13pm

re: #509 Creeping Eruption

Wisconsin is the est kept secret in the US. As I write this I am looking out my window at blue skies, light breeze and 76 degrees. Winters can be brutal, but the snow has its own beauty and we are usually outside in the winter as much as in the summer. Fall around here is too beautiful for words.


Gotta agree with that.. I have a cabin on Lake Tomahawk..But i have never been to Wisc. in the winter...nor will I ever..

558 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:15:47pm

re: #466 Creeping Eruption

Moderate. I thought the System of the World could have used some more editing; Necronomicon needed to expunge at least 2/3s of the use of the word "fuck" and its derivatives; and the Diamond Age fell apart in the last 60 pages.

He still hasn't written anything as good as Snow Crash, which I think is just great.

559 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:16:08pm

re: #557 HoosierHoops

Gotta agree with that.. I have a cabin on Lake Tomahawk..But i have never been to Wisc. in the winter...nor will I ever..

It's not that different from Indiana. A few degrees colder perhaps.

560 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:16:18pm

re: #552 OldLineTexan


We have seasons! Large black roach season and non large black roach season.

Ha.

One of your mosquitoes asked me to donate blood.
No shit,
he was carrying a donation card.

561 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:17:05pm

re: #558 Dianna

Moderate. I thought the System of the World could have used some more editing; Necronomicon needed to expunge at least 2/3s of the use of the word "fuck" and its derivatives; and the Diamond Age fell apart in the last 60 pages.

He still hasn't written anything as good as Snow Crash, which I think is just great.

I think I agree with all of that, but Diamond Age might just be my favorite sci fi book of all time, notwithstanding the ending. He throws away more great ideas in a paragraph than I could come-up with in my lifetime.

562 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:17:11pm

re: #555 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Funny how the idea of STOP SPENDING MONEY ON BULLSHIT never crosses their minds as a means to deal with debt

I have a sense that McCain/Palin will make sure it crosses their minds and then make them STOP SPENDING MONEY ON BULLSHIT.

Veto baby, veto.

563 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:18:24pm

I am probably really slow and way behind the curve here on this, but I just heard that the gov't is going to buy bundles of "bad" mortgage loans in order to save our financial system.

So - what happens to the people who are supposed to be paying those mortgages? Are they going to lose their homes, or will they be allowed to renegotiate the loan in order to stay in their homes?

And - what happens to the folks who made all the bad decisions on those loans?

Will there be any consequence to this other than the taxpayers get hit with a really huge tab?

What is the up side for those of us who have made prudent and careful decisions?

564 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:18:39pm

re: #514 OldLineTexan

I hate the retail concept of seasons, because it bears no resemblance to actual seasons. I live in Georgia, where a medium weight jacket gets me through the mild winters pretty well. Last February, I needed to go to New Jersey for a funeral. Do you think I could find a heavy winter coat in Georgia, New Jersey, or any points in between. Seriously, we stopped at three or four malls along the way. I also hate Halloween in August and Christmas on Labor Day. It all gets earlier every year and it sucks.

565 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:18:44pm

Have a good weekend Lizards. The boss is in Minnesota, so I am going to a business meeting at one of the local watering holes that has an outdoor deck and a fair sampling of the local brews.

566 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:19:07pm

re: #559 eschew_obfuscation

It's not that different from Indiana. A few degrees colder perhaps.

Well the main problem is driving the boat on a frozen lake...

567 Chotii  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:19:40pm

Here is my idea for a new bit of campaign reform:

Any candidate (independent or from any registered party) MUST provide verifiable documents including registered birth certificate, certified school records from any universities attended (grades, classes attended) including thesis (published or unpublished) if any, work history going back X years which can be verified, military history if any, legal backgrounds (arrests, etc), medical records within reason (HiPPA makes this hard to justify). Make everybody do it equally.

This is a burden, and would take time and money to accomplish. But, I had to do basically all of this to get a job at the local school district, so I could work as a playground monitor. Surely the chief executive ought to be vetted as thoroughly.

My hubby has been getting dual citizenship for himself and our children, based on where his mother was born. The process of this is amazingly complex and requires things like....long-form birth certificate for foreign-born parent, foreign-born parent's expired passport, 8 passport photos, all signed by person from list of qualified occupations, who has known you for 5+ years and is not related, umpteen pages of affidavits, similarly signed. It's a pain in the tuckus. It takes time. It can be done.

Why can't we expect our own Chief Executive and other leaders to jump through those same hoops?

568 ronaldusmagnus  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:19:49pm

Greetings all -

The PBS program "NOW" wants to know if you think Sarah Palin is qualified to be Vice-President. Oddly, they haven't asked if we think Obama is qualified to be President. But, as they are PBS, they surely know better than we. Let them know what you think.

569 vapig  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:21:03pm

re: #480 Ford_Prefect

Heard somewhere that Maine has just three seasons. Winter, Mud and Blackfly.

HA! In California we had flood and fire seasons.

570 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:22:35pm

re: #568 ronaldusmagnus

Just voted, for the second time in two days. She's actually gaining votes since I was here last.

571 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:22:54pm

re: #566 HoosierHoops

Well the main problem is driving the boat on a frozen lake...

Aw, quit whining! Get some runners and a sail ;~)

572 ethanxxx[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:22:59pm
573 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:24:07pm

re: #568 ronaldusmagnus

Greetings all -

The PBS program "NOW" wants to know if you think Sarah Palin is qualified to be Vice-President. Let them know what you think.


I voted 10 times,
in the primary I only voted twice.

574 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:24:12pm

re: #570 midwestgak

Just voted, for the second time in two days. She's actually gaining votes since I was here last.

Yes, I saw that gain. It was 30 yes, 70 not qualified at some point yesterday.

Using the "contact us" page, I sent them a note asking where their poll was on whether or not Biden was qualified to be VP. Told them that since they seem to be interested in who is qualified for VP, I looked for the Biden poll and didn't see it.

575 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:24:16pm

re: #569 vapig

HA! In California we had flood and fire seasons.

Seattle Annual Rain Festival, Jan. 1, to Dec. 31.

576 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:24:48pm

re: #544 ciaospirit

An excellent question, to which I do not have an answer.

577 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:25:19pm
578 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:25:46pm
579 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:26:00pm

re: #574 reine.de.tout

Yes, I saw that gain. It was 30 yes, 70 not qualified at some point yesterday.

Using the "contact us" page, I sent them a note asking where their poll was on whether or not Biden was qualified to be VP. Told them that since they seem to be interested in who is qualified for VP, I looked for the Biden poll and didn't see it.

Fabulous. Keep us posted if you get a reply.

580 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:26:03pm

re: #544 ciaospirit

I wonder how long "they" let Franklin Raines loot Fannie Mae (taking for himself over $100 million) because they didn't want to be called racists. Now look where we are. By the way, he's a Harvard graduate. I say he's nothing but a street punk graduate with fraud as his major. Why is Andrew Fastow of Enron in jail and Franklin Raines is not?

Because Raines and the (D)s are in bed.

581 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:26:06pm
582 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:26:14pm
583 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:26:19pm

re: #563 reine.de.tout

General answers to your questions:

So - what happens to the people who are supposed to be paying those mortgages? Are they going to lose their homes, or will they be allowed to renegotiate the loan in order to stay in their homes?

some people who have fallen behind on their mortgage payments will be able to renegotiate or catch up. Some will default.

And - what happens to the folks who made all the bad decisions on those loans?
Hopefully they will loose their jobs. If criminal malfeasance can be established they might even face charges. The wealthiest bastards will keep their swindled bank accounts.

Will there be any consequence to this other than the taxpayers get hit with a really huge tab?
Ain't life a bitch.

What is the up side for those of us who have made prudent and careful decisions?

As always their are a few who protect the way of life of the many.

584 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:26:26pm

Good Afternoon Lizards! It appears to be another glorious Day in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

anything Earth shattering happen since last night?

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

585 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:26:57pm

re: #555 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Funny how the idea of STOP SPENDING MONEY ON BULLSHIT never crosses their minds as a means to deal with debt

Yep. How many people know that when a prof goes on sabbatical, it's with FULL PAY (at least at our local college)? They run off to do their thing, travel, write a book, "research", whatever, on our dime. We have a guy on sabbatical right now that is finishing his book and trying to get it published, and if it makes money, he gets all the profits. He should be doing this on his own time, like most of us would have to do, not with other people's money. That shit should be stopped.

586 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:27:41pm
587 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:28:01pm

re: #578 ploome hineni

who is that?

Ama Dinnerjacket. Does that help?

588 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:28:27pm

re: #567 Chotii

And a photo-copy of two forms of identification to show you are eligible to work in the US?

589 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:28:39pm

re: #578 ploome hineni

who is that?

And why would they do it?

/just yesterday Ahmadinejad pledged to eliminate Israel again

590 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:28:59pm

re: #555 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Funny how the idea of STOP SPENDING MONEY ON BULLSHIT never crosses their minds as a means to deal with debt

Do you hear all those ads about how "you have the right to settle your credit card debt for just pennies on the dollar"? It's not a right. It's a privilege, because, somehow, it's never your fault that you borrowed money you couldn't repay.

It really irritates me. I have been careful with credit and responsible with money since I was 17 years old. I've gone through times so bad that I was hungry. It would never have occurred to me to - in essence - rob the honest by racking up debt and then saying, "Oh, well! Sorry about that!"

591 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:29:47pm

re: #586 redstateredneck

Uh-oh...Obama is disappointing the gays.

Will not post the first 3 things that popped into my head.
must resist.

592 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:30:10pm

re: #572 ethanxxx

Did you ever see Bernhard's atrocious movie "I'm nothing without you"? There's a lovely scene where she's in black-face, dressed in a mou-mou with a big Afro singing "My lips are big, my ass is round"

I'd love to show that to Michelle & Barry & hear what they think of that "progressive" humor...

593 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:30:20pm

re: #579 midwestgak

Fabulous. Keep us posted if you get a reply.

Not holding my breath; suggest you keep breathing, too.

594 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:30:32pm

re: #584 ggt

Good Afternoon Lizards! It appears to be another glorious Day in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

anything Earth shattering happen since last night?

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

Doing well. Ready for the weekend!

The weather in Houston, financial meltdown, science fiction, politicians in Washington doing stupid things.....you know......the usual

And you?

595 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:30:33pm
596 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:30:40pm

re: #583 Kenneth

As always theirthere are a few who protect the way of life of the many.

had to, sorry.

597 Maximu§  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:30:43pm

re: #581 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I am fairly sure she does kick start her own vibrator though.

You need jumper cables for that puppy.

598 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:30:46pm

re: #561 Creeping Eruption

I think I agree with all of that, but Diamond Age might just be my favorite sci fi book of all time, notwithstanding the ending. He throws away more great ideas in a paragraph than I could come-up with in my lifetime.

He and Brad Denton, both. Great writers, and amazing fun.

599 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:31:20pm

re: #596 midwestgak

thanks, spelling is so hard sometimes

600 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:31:24pm

re: #578 ploome hineni

who is that?

He's going to tell you later that is not quite the case. Look upthread...it was discussed earlier.

601 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:31:42pm

re: #585 ciaospirit

I always thought that sabbatical was meant to give the prof time to further his "research" away from the University. A means to add the body of knowledge in his/her field and solidify the Univeristy's standing in that particular field.

I've come to understand it is really an perk of tenure. Extended paid vacation.

602 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:32:14pm

re: #584 ggt

Greetings.

Not much happening. Economic meltdown is all.

603 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:32:24pm

re: #590 Dianna

Do you hear all those ads about how "you have the right to settle your credit card debt for just pennies on the dollar"? It's not a right. It's a privilege, because, somehow, it's never your fault that you borrowed money you couldn't repay.

It really irritates me. I have been careful with credit and responsible with money since I was 17 years old. I've gone through times so bad that I was hungry. It would never have occurred to me to - in essence - rob the honest by racking up debt and then saying, "Oh, well! Sorry about that!"

I have a high credit rating. But it could be higher. Why?
Because we don't carry a balance on our credit cards.
We get dinged on our rating because they don't make money off of us.

604 Big Steve  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:32:44pm

re: #567 Chotii

Here is my idea for a new bit of campaign reform:

Any candidate (independent or from any registered party) MUST provide verifiable documents including registered birth certificate, certified school records from any universities attended (grades, classes attended) including thesis (published or unpublished) if any, work history going back X years which can be verified, military history if any, legal backgrounds (arrests, etc), medical records within reason (HiPPA makes this hard to justify). Make everybody do it equally.

This is a burden, and would take time and money to accomplish. But, I had to do basically all of this to get a job at the local school district, so I could work as a playground monitor. Surely the chief executive ought to be vetted as thoroughly.

My hubby has been getting dual citizenship for himself and our children, based on where his mother was born. The process of this is amazingly complex and requires things like....long-form birth certificate for foreign-born parent, foreign-born parent's expired passport, 8 passport photos, all signed by person from list of qualified occupations, who has known you for 5+ years and is not related, umpteen pages of affidavits, similarly signed. It's a pain in the tuckus. It takes time. It can be done.

Why can't we expect our own Chief Executive and other leaders to jump through those same hoops?

Just like making them fill out a job application like the rest of us schlubs

605 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:32:59pm

re: #583 Kenneth

General answers to your questions:

So - what happens to the people who are supposed to be paying those mortgages? Are they going to lose their homes, or will they be allowed to renegotiate the loan in order to stay in their homes?

some people who have fallen behind on their mortgage payments will be able to renegotiate or catch up. Some will default.

And - what happens to the folks who made all the bad decisions on those loans?
Hopefully they will loose their jobs. If criminal malfeasance can be established they might even face charges. The wealthiest bastards will keep their swindled bank accounts.

Will there be any consequence to this other than the taxpayers get hit with a really huge tab?
Ain't life a bitch.

As always their are a few who protect the way of life of the many.

Thanks. These aren't the answers I wanted to see, but I these were the answers I thought I would get.

If there is no real consequence for those who specifically were responsible, then I have no hope that things will change much.

606 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:33:32pm

re: #595 buzzsawmonkey

Not all gays are leftists. There are plenty of conservative, patriotic gay men & women.

607 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:33:36pm

re: #597 Maximu§

You need jumper cables for that puppy.

No, the jumper cables are attached elsewhere.

The puppy is attached elsewhere as well.

608 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:33:40pm

re: #595 buzzsawmonkey

OK, explain this to me: the leftist gay movement, being leftist, is on board with the idea that the military is evil and an instrument of fascistic foreign policy. Yet getting rid of "don't ask/don't tell" is oppressive to gays--who want to be part of this evil war machine?

Can somebody make this consistent?

Sorry, I'm not a leftist gay so I can't explain it, either.

609 vapig  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:33:44pm

re: #572 ethanxxx

I was just watching Sandra Bernhard spew her veil progressive filth about Sarah Palin and couldn't help but think... I'd like to see this worthless dyke b###h try to juggle 3 running chain saws... cause... I'm pretty sure she's never held a chain saw in her life.

Nice save....{;^}

610 Chotii  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:33:45pm

re: #588 ggt

And a photo-copy of two forms of identification to show you are eligible to work in the US?

Why not? It would save a lot of MSM folks a lot of time and energy trying to dig up dirt.

611 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:34:11pm

re: #594 eschew_obfuscation

Ah well, thanks for asking.

I'm hangin' in there. Decided to sleep with the windows open last night to enjoy the fresh, cool air and get the doggy smell out of the house. Sounds good, but for a person with allergies it's not so good. Woke up feeling lousy, stuffy nose.

I've spent most of the day with the air on, taking allergy meds and generally feeling miserable.

612 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:34:40pm
613 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:34:58pm

re: #605 reine.de.tout

Thanks. These aren't the answers I wanted to see, but I these were the answers I thought I would get.

If there is no real consequence for those who specifically were responsible, then I have no hope that things will change much.

Funny you should mention Hope & Change... Barry's friends Fanny & Freddie really want you to vote for him.

614 Alouette  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:35:01pm

re: #595 buzzsawmonkey

OK, explain this to me: the leftist gay movement, being leftist, is on board with the idea that the military is evil and an instrument of fascistic foreign policy. Yet getting rid of "don't ask/don't tell" is oppressive to gays--who want to be part of this evil war machine?

Can somebody make this consistent?

They may not want to be part of the "evil war machine" but they want to control it.

615 FrogMarch  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:35:12pm

Charlie Gibson - uber-Putz.

and wow doesn't JFK sound like a republican? Shows how far left the modern democrat party has fallen off the left-o-scale.

616 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:35:22pm

re: #601 ggt

I always thought that sabbatical was meant to give the prof time to further his "research" away from the University. A means to add the body of knowledge in his/her field and solidify the Univeristy's standing in that particular field.

I've come to understand it is really an perk of tenure. Extended paid vacation.

My brother built an addition to his house during a sabbatical. Then he had to knock out several compositions in the last week.

617 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:35:27pm

re: #602 midwestgak

I thought the meltdown was over now that both the mortgage and insurance industries were nationalized.

?

618 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:35:33pm

re: #563 reine.de.tout

I am probably really slow and way behind the curve here on this, but I just heard that the gov't is going to buy bundles of "bad" mortgage loans in order to save our financial system.

So - what happens to the people who are supposed to be paying those mortgages? Are they going to lose their homes, or will they be allowed to renegotiate the loan in order to stay in their homes?

And - what happens to the folks who made all the bad decisions on those loans?

Will there be any consequence to this other than the taxpayers get hit with a really huge tab?

What is the up side for those of us who have made prudent and careful decisions?

Well, the people who were supposed to be paying those mortgages have already been foreclosed on. The government will sell the houses for what the market will bear, just to clear the inventory and get the tax base stabilized again. (Remind me sometime to talk about the $1 houses in Oakland about 15-20 years back).

The people who did the lending are a good question. The people who did the borrowing, in many cases, were playing the "flip" game and got caught short when the music stopped, or should never have been borrowing as much as they did.

There are some upsides - some people who were shut out of the market will be able to buy the foreclosed properties, because the government is going to sell them cheap, just to blunt the initial costs of the bail-out.

I'm still really angry, though. The improvident are punishing the provident.

619 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:35:35pm

re: #602 midwestgak

Greetings.

Not much happening. Economic meltdown is all.

My financial consultant "forgot" to call me back wednesday and was due to call me 5 minutes ago. Not exactly brimming with confidence right now.

620 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:35:35pm

re: #593 reine.de.tout

hahahaha

621 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:36:04pm

re: #612 buzzsawmonkey

True. Absolutely. But the "gay movement" is leftist, i.e., anti-military; and it is the movement which is agitating over don't ask/don't tell, is it not? That is what I find inconsistent.

You make a fundamental error.

Expecting consistency from the left.

622 Maximu§  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:36:17pm

back to work......Damn Clients!

623 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:36:30pm

re: #613 Kenneth

Funny you should mention Hope & Change... Barry's friends Fanny & Freddie really want you to vote for him.

Heh.
But I won't be voting for him.

624 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:36:43pm

re: #612 buzzsawmonkey

What's inconsistent about being an inconsistent illogical self-contradictory immoral unpatriotic leftist? I don't see your problem...

625 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:36:51pm

re: #196 Eowyn2

I'm sure you can guess my favorite paragraphs.

"Begone, foul dwimmerlaik, lord of carrion! Leave the dead in peace!"

"Come not between the Nazgul and prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shriveled mind be left naked to the Lidless Eye."

"Do as you will ... but I will hinder it, if I may."

"Hinder me! Thou fool. No living man may hinder me!"

"But no living man am I! You look upon a woman. Eowyn I am, Eomund's daughter. You stand between me and my lord and kin. Begone, if you be not deathless! For living or dark undead, I will smite you, if you touch him."

626 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:37:07pm

re: #610 Chotii

I agree, but somehow, I think it is too simple. The MSM wouldn't have anything to do.

627 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:37:41pm
628 dawnoftruth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:38:15pm

re: #590 Dianna
I completely agree, I got myself into credit card trouble and it never occurred to me to find a way not to pay the money back. I am making payments and have learned a valuable lesson.

629 DaddyG  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:38:27pm

re: #353 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Answer to both: They are nuts.

630 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:38:47pm

re: #622 Maximu§

back to work......Damn Clients!

Dont they suck? I keep telling my bosses the best way to secure our network would be to delete all user accounts and shutdown all our servers, but they keep bringing up business commitments. Makes security so hard when you have to actually provide access to the vulnerabilities, er, clients.

631 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:39:01pm

re: #599 Kenneth

thanks, spelling is so hard sometimes


When I was 20 years old I was embarrased when I found out that I didn't know there was to and too. Someone laughed at me for it. ouch.
So I like to gently correct these minor errors.

Do you want to go to the store too? ;)

632 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:39:24pm
I think it's pretty clear that Sen. McCain is a little panicked right now. At this point he seems to be willing to say anything or do anything or change any position or violate any principal to try and win this election, and I've got to say it's kind of sad to see. That's not the politics we need.” – Barack Obama, speaking in Coral Gables, Fla

Politico

633 vapig  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:39:38pm

re: #617 ggt

I thought the meltdown was over now that both the mortgage and insurance industries were nationalized.

?

That's kinda how I see it too. I've even wondered if the meltdown was manufactured (or overstated) to do just that - foment a government takeover.

634 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:39:40pm

re: #618 Dianna

Well, the people who were supposed to be paying those mortgages have already been foreclosed on. The government will sell the houses for what the market will bear, just to clear the inventory and get the tax base stabilized again. (Remind me sometime to talk about the $1 houses in Oakland about 15-20 years back).

The people who did the lending are a good question. The people who did the borrowing, in many cases, were playing the "flip" game and got caught short when the music stopped, or should never have been borrowing as much as they did.

There are some upsides - some people who were shut out of the market will be able to buy the foreclosed properties, because the government is going to sell them cheap, just to blunt the initial costs of the bail-out.

I'm still really angry, though. The improvident are punishing the provident.

Well, maybe I can find one of those foreclosed homes and increase my standing in life a little bit LOL.

I'm angry, that the improvident are punishing the provident. The "improvident" in my mind include those who make the "sale" to people who can't really afford it, selling them a house and a mortgage that's too much for them. Not the real-estate agents, but the banks and mortgage companies.

635 DeafDog  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:40:15pm

re: #563 reine.de.tout

re: #583 Kenneth

I have a different take on this than Kenneth:

What happens to the people who are supposed to be paying those mortgages? Are they going to lose their homes, or will they be allowed to renegotiate the loan in order to stay in their homes? And - what happens to the folks who made all the bad decisions on those loans?

[deafdog] It'll may be slightly easier for them to renogotiate. The congress may allow 45 year loans or something like that to make payments lower. But, in general, the govt. has already been encouraging renegotiations, so I think this will have only a marginal impact. If someone can't afford their house, they will still have to move out.


Will there be any consequence to this other than the taxpayers get hit with a really huge tab?

[deafdog] Insovency leads to bankrupcy, which is still a black mark in my book. Over time, individuals can overcome that - this is America, after all - but that means learning discipline.

What is the up side for those of us who have made prudent and careful decisions?

[deafdog] Without this action, the entire financial sector was locking up. So this should free a lot of capital so banks can start loaning again - to both business and individuals.

Also, it is not clear to me that this prospect will be a loser for the govt over time. True, it will be a ton of money to implement. But the govt. might actually turn a profit. It will depend on the purchase price of the loans.

636 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:40:28pm

re: #612 buzzsawmonkey

Frankly, I think most people think their sexual-orientation is NO ONE'S BUSINESS. It's only the psychotic and generally whacko of every flavor that make an issue of it.

I wonder how many of the 'gays' in zombie's last photoshoot are really married, church-going family men who get the rocks off spending the day being decadent. Perversion knows no boundries.

637 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:40:38pm

re: #597 Maximu§

I suggested earlier that her piehole was large enough to get a couple of Subway sandwiches in there at once, with room left over for a couple of Chocolate Chip Cookies.

638 loppyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:41:10pm

Good Afternoon Lizard Nation!

So I got this chain email this morning from a friend. It had been forwarded to her friend from womensaynopalin@gmail.com.
It was full of the usual hypocrisy and lies about Sarah Palin. I replied to everyone on the list that actually I was saying YES to Sarah Palin and forwarded my own direct reply to the above gmail address:

So much for the Sisterhood.

I look forward to the rude awakening that hypocrites such as yourselves will suffer when Sarah Palin becomes the first female Vice President of the United States.

I strongly urge you to keep up your lies and attacks. It only helps our cause and rallies rational, independent thinking women across the country to our side.

Keep up the good work!

Sincerely,

(loppyd)

ps - No librarian was ever fired or threatened to be fired by Gov. Palin. Even the Mainstream Media has begrudgingly acknowledged these facts. I won't hold my breath while you correct the record.

I'm sure they'd love to hear from you as well!

639 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:41:10pm

re: #631 midwestgak

When I was 20 years old I was embarrased when I found out that I didn't know there was to and too. Someone laughed at me for it. ouch.
So I like to gently correct these minor errors.

Do you want to go to the store too? ;)

Didja know there's a two, too?

640 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:41:22pm

re: #632 faraway
projection.

641 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:41:35pm

re: #617 ggt

I thought the meltdown was over now that both the mortgage and insurance industries were nationalized.

?

Exactly. I did not post that. ?

642 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:41:41pm
643 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:41:50pm

re: #635 DeafDog

Interesting! Glad to see a little bit of a daylight amidst all the gloom and doom I'm hearing on TV!

644 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:42:06pm

re: #603 jcm

I have a high credit rating. But it could be higher. Why?
Because we don't carry a balance on our credit cards.
We get dinged on our rating because they don't make money off of us.

Same here!

Actually, twice a year I make it a point to pay a card in two installments.

645 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:42:25pm

re: #617 ggt

Look at it this way - we're now all shareholders in an Insurance Company.

/You can still save a ton of money with Geiko.

646 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:42:28pm

re: #638 loppyd

Did you hack their email yet?
/

647 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:42:50pm

re: #638 loppyd

Good job, {lopps}!

648 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:43:06pm

As predicted last night, these new short selling rules are causing indigestion that will have repercussions next week. The market can't function in an orderly fashion.

/let them sell short, ENFORCE THE LAW AGAINST NAKED SHORT SELLING!

649 vapig  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:43:07pm

re: #634 reine.de.tout

Well, maybe I can find one of those foreclosed homes and increase my standing in life a little bit LOL.

I'm angry, that the improvident are punishing the provident. The "improvident" in my mind include those who make the "sale" to people who can't really afford it, selling them a house and a mortgage that's too much for them. Not the real-estate agents, but the banks and mortgage companies.

It was my understanding that congress was pressuring banks and mortgage companies to lend to the insolvents because they had deemed home ownership was a RIGHT instead of a goal.

650 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:43:09pm

Palin Hackers May Dodge Feds via DOJ Loophole

Could the hackers who infiltrated Republican vice presidential hopeful Sarah Palin's personal Yahoo account avoid prosecution thanks to a Department of Justice policy statement?

Though federal law prohibits the unauthorized access of someone's e-mail account, the DOJ's interpretation of one particular case might only hold the Palin hackers accountable for accessing unopened messages, according to the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF).

Hackers obtained access to the Alaska governor's personal gov.palin@yahoo.com e-mail address this week after successfully navigating through Yahoo's password reset process. They changed the governor's password, took screen shots of the account's contents, accessed personal photographs, and sent all the data to the Wikileaks Web site.

Under the Stored Communication Act (SCA), it is illegal to access without permission a wire or electronic communication while it is in electronic storage. A 2003 case, Theofel v. Farey-Jones, ruled that electronic storage refers to e-mails that have been read, as well as those that are unopened.

The DOJ, however, is not a huge fan of the Theofel decision.

The agency's computer crimes and intellectual property division "continues to question whether Theofel was correctly decided, since little reason exists for treating old email differently than other material a user may choose to store on a network," according to the DOJ's Prosecuting Computer Crimes Manual.

The DoJ's opinion of the court precedent has no bearing on the case, IMO. The current law finds this to be a federal crime.

651 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:43:21pm

re: #625 Tigger2005

"Those who do not live by the sword can still die upon them."

652 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:44:47pm

re: #611 ggt

Ah well, thanks for asking.

I'm hangin' in there. Decided to sleep with the windows open last night to enjoy the fresh, cool air and get the doggy smell out of the house. Sounds good, but for a person with allergies it's not so good. Woke up feeling lousy, stuffy nose.

I've spent most of the day with the air on, taking allergy meds and generally feeling miserable.

Sounds like my house! 'cept I'm not the one with the allergies.

653 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:45:15pm

re: #634 reine.de.tout

Hey, everyone should have their own home. Let's do away with the 20% down - it'll be great!

654 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:45:29pm

Iowahawk has some thoughts on Obama's ' Get In Their Faces ' approach....
[Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]

655 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:45:35pm

re: #648 Killian Bundy

As predicted last night, these new short selling rules are causing indigestion that will have repercussions next week. The market can't function in an orderly fashion.

/let them sell short, ENFORCE THE LAW AGAINST NAKED SHORT SELLING!

Unless you're in San Fran, where you can have a parade doing that.

656 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:45:38pm

re: #627 buzzsawmonkey

I love that thing!

657 loppyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:45:41pm

Joe Biden just undid any positive gains from his bus tour in Ohio.

Democratic vice-presidential nominee Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., spent the past two days trying to win over Ohio voters, but he may have undermined that work in one quick dis of the Ohio State Buckeyes football team Friday morning.

Before boarding his flight from Wilmington, Del., to Washington, DC, the loquacious Blue Hen displayed some Fightin' Blue Hen alumni bravado in an impromptu airport meeting with the University of Delaware football team.

"I was out in Ohio," he said, clutching a football. "I told the folks in Ohio that we'd kick Ohio State's ass!"

658 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:45:59pm
BIDEN: You got it. It's time to be patriotic, Kate, time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut.

Top 10% of wage earners pay 70% of taxes.
Bottom 50% of wage earners pay 3% of taxes.

BTW Plugs lets talk charity shall we? $3700 over ten years on 2.7 mill in income? Not to brag, Plugs but I give more in a YEAR on a fraction of the income.

STFU Plugs, you're not only stupid, you're a loser.

/rant.

659 vapig  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:46:05pm

re: #638 loppyd

Good Afternoon Lizard Nation!

So I got this chain email this morning from a friend. It had been forwarded to her friend from womensaynopalin@gmail.com.
It was full of the usual hypocrisy and lies about Sarah Palin. I replied to everyone on the list that actually I was saying YES to Sarah Palin and forwarded my own direct reply to the above gmail address:

So much for the Sisterhood.

I look forward to the rude awakening that hypocrites such as yourselves will suffer when Sarah Palin becomes the first female Vice President of the United States.

I strongly urge you to keep up your lies and attacks. It only helps our cause and rallies rational, independent thinking women across the country to our side.

Keep up the good work!

Sincerely,

(loppyd)

ps - No librarian was ever fired or threatened to be fired by Gov. Palin. Even the Mainstream Media has begrudgingly acknowledged these facts. I won't hold my breath while you correct the record.

I'm sure they'd love to hear from you as well!

I *hearted* you. Thanks for the info

660 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:46:09pm

re: #639 redstateredneck

Didja know there's a two, too?

Didn't know that.

661 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:46:57pm

re: #633 vapig

I don't hear a lot of complaining about housing in the Chicagoland area. Gas prices, yes, people losing their houses, no.

I remember the end of the 80's, I heard a lot more.

There are people who overextended, banking on their house increasing in value and are now sitting on houses they can't sell in order to pay the entire mortgage --or get home equity loans. But they are just stuck in their homes, having to tighten the purse strings--eating less steak.

I haven't personallly met anyone truly hurting because of the housing situation.

662 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:47:00pm

re: #653 debutaunt

Hey, everyone should have their own home. Let's do away with the 20% down - it'll be great!

Let's just have the gov't build/buy all the homes, and give them away!

And then when disaster strikes, everyone can be like the neighborhood's resident lib, and wait for FEMA to come clean up their property and fix their roofs LOL!

663 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:47:23pm

re: #632 faraway

McCain is panicked? McCain's changing positions?

Obambi, that's a severe case of projection!

664 loppyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:47:36pm

re: #646 faraway

Did you hack their email yet?
/

If I did it would only have been because they were too stupid to prevent me from doing so.

/AP

665 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:47:36pm

re: #644 Dianna

Same here!

Actually, twice a year I make it a point to pay a card in two installments.

My wife has some store cards because of discounts associated with using them. But it's paid in full every month.

666 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:48:22pm

re: #635 DeafDog

Bankruptcy, like teenage pregancy and divorce, mean very little anymore.

667 greenbear  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:48:56pm

Do you think McCain and Palin read LGF?

I mean, they could get guidance on all their campaign issues if they just visit here once in in while to get a kick in the pants. :)

668 WindHorse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:49:05pm

re: #545 OldLineTexan

ahh yes, the Texas Germans and their lagers! mmmmm.... lager

669 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:49:32pm

Someone told me I'm brave for wearing a McCain 2008 button. In the Nation's Capital! And proudly.

(We're not yet a ONE PARTY DICTATORSHIP, if I have any say!)

I will not be intimidated to vote against my country's interest.

670 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:49:55pm

re: #641 midwestgak

did you post that? I don't know. I apologize if I misread your post.

671 DeafDog  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:50:02pm

re: #643 reine.de.tout

Interesting! Glad to see a little bit of a daylight amidst all the gloom and doom I'm hearing on TV!

When the TV preaches doom and gloom is a good time to buy, just like when the TV is preaching that "rosey days are here forever," it is time to sell.

672 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:50:18pm

re: #651 ggt

"Those who do not live by the sword can still die upon them."

Eowyn for President!

Oh, she's a fictional character?

OK ... PALIN FOR PRESIDENT!

673 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:50:46pm

re: #654 tradewind

Iowahawk has some thoughts on Obama's ' Get In Their Faces ' approach....
[Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]


HAHAHA!
"We are the droogs we've been waiting for."

674 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:51:30pm

re: #645 Cap'n DOC

LOL

Somehow, I don't think it will play out that way. Kinda like we all have an annuity with the Social Security Administration.

675 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:51:39pm

By the way I finally got my McCain/Palin yard signs! Whoo! I was going to put both of them up in my yard, but a friend of mine mentioned he'd take one. Best to spread the word as far as possible.

676 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:51:39pm

re: #667 greenbear

Do you think McCain and Palin read LGF?

I mean, they could get guidance on all their campaign issues if they just visit here once in in while to get a kick in the pants. :)

The McCain ads are surprisingly good.

They are more hard hitting than any from Republicans that I can recall from the last ten years, maybe longer.

This is a Republican Presidential campaign that believes it should and must win. Its a nice change.

677 Perry  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:51:41pm

re: #199 buzzsawmonkey
I appreciate your insight very much.

678 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:52:09pm

re: #660 midwestgak

Didn't know that.

Also a tu tu.
English is so hard.

679 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:52:24pm

re: #634 reine.de.tout

To be really fair, I don't think a lot of people who borrowed the money actually sat down and did the math.

Before the Male and I bought this place, I sat down and I ran the numbers, and I was pessimistic. Then I sat down with him, and explained that, for at least the first year, we were going to have about $150/month "cushion" between us, and most of the time, that would get eaten up by some expense we hadn't anticipated. I asked if he could do this.

He's taken it well. But being house poor doesn't suit him very well, I fear.

The problem is that most people just don't do that. They don't understand that the first couple years are going to be very, very tight, and every single penny must be pinched until it screams.

Even if pinching pennies is just mean.

680 greenbear  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:52:36pm

re: #617 ggt

I thought the meltdown was over now that both the mortgage and insurance industries were nationalized.

?

Sure, Chavez nationalizes the oil industry which makes tins of money and we nationalize the stinking mortgage business which will be hemorrhaging cash for years.

Smart.

681 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:52:37pm

re: #666 ggt

Bankruptcy, like teenage pregancy and divorce, mean very little anymore.

/bankruptcy is much harder to declare than it was five years ago

682 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:52:48pm

re: #662 reine.de.tout

Let's just have the gov't build/buy all the homes, and give them away!

And then when disaster strikes, everyone can be like the neighborhood's resident lib, and wait for FEMA to come clean up their property and fix their roofs LOL!

Can I be the community organizer?

683 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:53:05pm

On the week it looks like the Dow will close up.

684 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:53:14pm

re: #657 loppyd

Joe Biden loses Barack Obama the Catholic vote

Archbishop Chaput of Denver had already announced Biden should not receive communion because of his pro-abortion views. Defiantly, Biden took communion in his home parish in Delaware in late August. On September 2 the Bishop of Scranton, Pennsylvania (a crucial swing state) banned him from communion in his diocese. That is effective excommunication. Then came the crucial provocation. On NBC's Meet the Press programme on September 7 Biden grossly misrepresented the Catholic Church's teaching on abortion and audaciously cited St Thomas Aquinas in his own cause.

That did it. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had already done the same thing on the same programme, in her instance citing St Augustine. Even the torpid US bishops could not have false doctrine glibly broadcast by public figures, misleading their flock. So the counterattack described here last week began, culminating in a statement from the US Bishops' Conference. The bishops of Kansas City have also issued a pastoral letter on the subject. It is open season on Biden.

685 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:53:54pm

re: #675 Tigger2005

By the way I finally got my McCain/Palin yard signs! Whoo! I was going to put both of them up in my yard, but a friend of mine mentioned he'd take one. Best to spread the word as far as possible.

That's tiggerific!

686 formercorpsman  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:54:12pm

re: #636 ggt

It is a much bigger contingent than just dismissing the few and the insane.

You are correct, it is not everyone, but it is not a small minority either.

687 greenbear  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:54:26pm

re: #651 ggt

"Those who do not live by the sword can still die upon them."


We need to tell McCain and palin what Greek mothers used to tell their sons going off to battle:

With your shield or on it!

688 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:54:32pm

re: #678 redstateredneck

Also a tu tu.
English is so hard.

Is there any other language with so many words that sound the same but are spelled different, or with words that are spelled the same but sound different?

689 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:54:40pm

re: #679 Dianna

To be really fair, I don't think a lot of people who borrowed the money actually sat down and did the math.

Before the Male and I bought this place, I sat down and I ran the numbers, and I was pessimistic. Then I sat down with him, and explained that, for at least the first year, we were going to have about $150/month "cushion" between us, and most of the time, that would get eaten up by some expense we hadn't anticipated. I asked if he could do this.

He's taken it well. But being house poor doesn't suit him very well, I fear.

The problem is that most people just don't do that. They don't understand that the first couple years are going to be very, very tight, and every single penny must be pinched until it screams.

Even if pinching pennies is just mean.

That is just soooo full of middle-classiness! Just ask reverend Wright ;~)

690 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:55:10pm

re: #662 reine.de.tout

The first Mayor Daley tried that in the People's Utopia of Chicago. The Chicago Housing Authority is was called. As I understand it, they've torn down all those "model" homes. They became a disgrace. Seems that if people don't have an actual financial interest in their home, they don't value it.

Who knew?

691 loppyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:55:18pm

re: #647 redstateredneck


Thanks {redstate}

I have a counter attack in the works.....

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

692 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:55:28pm

re: #660 midwestgak

Didn't know that.

No I didn't. I don't know enough to ask an intelligent question on the subject.

Glitch

693 Czarny_Smok  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:55:40pm

re: #575 jcm

and if Summer happens to fall on a weekend, we have a picnic

694 DeafDog  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:55:49pm

re: #666 ggt

Bankruptcy, like teenage pregancy and divorce, mean very little anymore.

In many parts of the country, that is True (it's kind of a red state/blue state thing).

695 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:55:50pm

Biden calls paying taxes patriotic.

Someone please tell Congressman Charles Rangel.

696 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:56:24pm

re: #676 Syrah

The McCain ads are surprisingly good.

They are more hard hitting than any from Republicans that I can recall from the last ten years, maybe longer.

This is a Republican Presidential campaign that believes it should and must win. Its a nice change.

* * * *
McCain may have thought the media would be applauding his campaign as in the past, so it's a providential good thing he's got Republicans familiar dealing with Bush-hatred on board.

McCain's sailing against the wind this time, but damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!

697 loppyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:56:42pm

re: #659 vapig

You're welcome and thanks for the love. :)

698 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:58:03pm

re: #679 Dianna

We did too. We also dump a couple lenders who pushed too hard toward an ARM. ARMs looked good up front, but the loan market could only go up from where it was at.

We started with a fixed 30 year. Then when the loan market bottomed out we refied convert to a fixed 15 year our monthly payments stayed the same. But cutting out 150k in interest.

699 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:58:24pm

re: #679 Dianna

I agree. I am often suprised at the lack of planning. Then when people turn up short they scream like little children.

700 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:58:35pm

re: #696 alegrias

* * * *
McCain may have thought the media would be applauding his campaign as in the past, so it's a providential good thing he's got Republicans familiar dealing with Bush-hatred on board.

McCain's sailing against the wind this time, but damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!

I like a Republican campaign that knows that it has to fight to win. This is a good campaign.

His ads are very timely too.

McCain is setting the campaign agenda, Obama is stuck responding.

701 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:58:40pm

re: #690 ggt

Thefirst Mayor Daley tried that in the People's Utopia of Chicago. TheChicago Housing Authority is was called. As I understand it, they'vetorn down all those "model" homes. They became a disgrace. Seems thatif people don't have an actual financial interest in their home, theydon't value it.

Who knew?

* * * *
Everyone knows no one washes a rented car!

702 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:59:03pm

re: #667 greenbear

I think someone does. Maybe even Sen. and Mrs. McCain - while she's - you know - doin' the keyboard thing with him.

703 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:59:17pm

re: #681 Killian Bundy

But it doesn't carry the social stigma it once did.

704 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:59:18pm

Gotta go. Have a good weekend lizards!

705 Salem  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:59:44pm

I suspect that if O'Bomba loses, race relations in the country will be at about the level as after the L.A. riots. Awkward, but not explosive. If O'Bomba wins, it'll be four years of racial machinery that we'll have to try to come out on the other side of. There will be an unending procession of powder kegs waiting to be set off because any opposition to O'Bomba will be portrayed as racism. His word (as the DNC's mouth-piece) will be as a decree to the media. That was their thinking when they chose him as their candidate. Regular Americans will swiftly find themselves sickened by the whole thing, but to the organized haters, black and white, this will be like a call to duty. And after that's been endured, the war-wound left behind will be extremely slow to heal.

Either way, the Democrat Party is doomed.

706 DeeMack  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 12:59:50pm

LMAO!

OK...a little fun from my part of the world for you all...looks like those foam collumns are starting to crack

[Link: www.babalublog.com...]

707 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:00:13pm

re: #665 jcm

My wife has some store cards because of discounts associated with using them. But it's paid in full every month.

In my case, it's planned for. There's enough money to pay in full. I just run the balance to keep my credit rating up.

708 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:00:31pm

re: #674 ggt

Well, if it doesn't, it should. Damn. I thought I'd be gettin' some leverage with State Farm...

709 loppyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:00:34pm
710 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:00:36pm

re: #698 jcm

We did too. We also dump a couple lenders who pushed too hard toward an ARM. ARMs looked good up front, but the loan market could only go up from where it was at.

We started with a fixed 30 year. Then when the loan market bottomed out we refied convert to a fixed 15 year our monthly payments stayed the same. But cutting out 150k in interest.

....and if you're paid bi-weekly, there are programs that deduct half of a monthly payment from your account bi-weekly. Ends up making one extra payment each year and has a big effect over time on the principal, and as a result, interest.

711 greenbear  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:00:55pm

re: #702 Cap'n DOC

I think someone does. Maybe even Sen. and Mrs. McCain - while she's - you know - doin' the keyboard thing with him.

Cool. Maybe we can get him to scratch his nose to signal that he's getting our message.

/

712 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:01:05pm

What's with these stupid polls? First it was football buddy, now this. But I would agree that Obama should become a teacher or a football buddy rather than president.

Asked which they'd choose to be their child's teacher, Obama was the choice by a more decisive 55 percent to 44 percent, including a markedly stronger performance by the Illinois senator among whites.

713 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:01:06pm

Closing bell, portfolio goes wild.

/cashes JAN options on BBY and DFG

714 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:01:11pm

re: #700 Syrah

I like a Republican campaign that knows that it has to fight to win. This is a good campaign.

His ads are very timely too.

McCain is setting the campaign agenda, Obama is stuck responding.

OODA loop

715 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:01:24pm

re: #695 Racer X

Biden calls paying taxes patriotic.

Someone please tell Congressman Charles Rangel.

* * *
Banking "oversight" chairman Sen. Chris Dodd thought taking sweet mortgage deals from his pal Angelo Mozillo of Countrywide, was patriotic.

Dodd was supposed to be a "watch dog" bwahahaha. He was a fox watching the Fannie Mae Chicken House run by democrat insiders, for democrat insiders for 28 years.

716 loppyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:01:48pm

re: #684 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

As they say over at Hot Air - Awesomely Awesome!

717 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:02:05pm

re: #701 alegrias

* * * *
Everyone knows no one washes a rented car!

Rental cars? Drive 'em like ya stole 'em. That comment gets our HR folks worried.

718 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:02:08pm

re: #707 Dianna

In my case, it's planned for. There's enough money to pay in full. I just run the balance to keep my credit rating up.

Not a bad scheme.

719 greenbear  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:02:36pm

re: #715 alegrias

* * *
Banking "oversight" chairman Sen. Chris Dodd thought taking sweet mortgage deals from his pal Angelo Mozillo of Countrywide, was patriotic.

Dodd was supposed to be a "watch dog" bwahahaha. He was a fox watching the Fannie Mae Chicken House run by democrat insiders, for democrat insiders for 28 years.

Fannie Mae should stuck to making candy...

/

720 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:03:01pm

re: #700 Syrah

I like a Republican campaign that knows that it has to fight to win. This is a good campaign.

His ads are very timely too.

McCain is setting the campaign agenda, Obama is stuck responding.

It's refreshing to see a Republican playing offense rather than defense.

721 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:03:03pm

re: #710 eschew_obfuscation

....and if you're paid bi-weekly, there are programs that deduct half of a monthly payment from your account bi-weekly. Ends up making one extra payment each year and has a big effect over time on the principal, and as a result, interest.

We have the option to add to the principle payment. It's amazing what a couple hundred bucks now cuts off the back end.

722 DeafDog  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:03:15pm

re: #700 Syrah

I like a Republican campaign that knows that it has to fight to win. This is a good campaign.

His ads are very timely too.

McCain is setting the campaign agenda, Obama is stuck responding.

When this week's financial meltdown began, McCain was presidential. "The fundementals of the economy are good, but we have major issues to work through." Echoes of FDR's nothing to fear, but fear itself.

BHO, on the other hand, said this was the death nell of an economic philosophy and we needed to change the fundementals of our economic philosphy to survive....for the sake of the children. I may be overstatating Barak's position, but he was extremely draconian.

I think people will notice that difference.

Do you want a steady hand at the control of the economic levers or do you want a chicken little who will hear the sky falling when hit by an acorn? ...... (did you like the use of ACORN)

723 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:03:17pm

re: #684 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Good for the Bishops.

724 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:03:21pm

re: #708 Cap'n DOC

Well, technically, State Farm is a Mutual company which means it (Auto anyway) is owned by it's policyholders. I'm not sure how, exactly, that plays out legally.

725 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:03:36pm

re: #719 greenbear

Fannie Mae should stuck to making candy...

/

LOL - I thought I was the only one who associated them with the candy store!

726 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:03:44pm
727 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:03:59pm

re: #709 loppyd

Barry's head might just explode over this new McCain ad playing in Florida.
So nice to see McCain is willing to fight.

* * * *
Senator McCain is willing to fight, and begged all of us to "FIGHT WITH ME, Fight WITH me" at his closing remarks in Minnesota.

Are we doing what we can to defend, preserve & protect America?

728 loppyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:04:24pm

re: #715 alegrias

* * *
Banking "oversight" chairman Sen. Chris Dodd thought taking sweet mortgage deals from his pal Angelo Mozillo of Countrywide, was patriotic.

Dodd was supposed to be a "watch dog" bwahahaha. He was a fox watching the Fannie Mae Chicken House run by democrat insiders, for democrat insiders for 28 years.

Someone might want to ask John F-ing Kerry about his patriotism. Here in MA you can check off a box on your income tax return to pay at a higher rate. The Junior Senator has never checked the box. Evah!

729 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:05:52pm

re: #698 jcm

Yes, I'm looking for a refinance, when things calm down. We've only been in here since 2006, but I'm hoping to re-fi down to a 20 year fixed sometime in the next couple years. I don't think I can manage a 15 year fixed yet - we haven't paid enough down, yet, on the loan.

730 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:06:51pm

re: #719 greenbear

Fannie Mae should stuck to making candy...

/

LOL
I'd forgotten about that Fannie May.

731 DeafDog  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:06:53pm

re: #715 alegrias

* * *
Banking "oversight" chairman Sen. Chris Dodd thought taking sweet mortgage deals from his pal Angelo Mozillo of Countrywide, was patriotic.

Dodd was supposed to be a "watch dog" bwahahaha. He was a fox watching the Fannie Mae Chicken House run by democrat insiders, for democrat insiders for 28 years.

I can't decide who makes my skin crawl more....Dodd or Shumer....it's a tough call.

Folks out there from Connecticut should be embarassed of Dodd.

732 greenbear  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:07:10pm

re: #725 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

LOL - I thought I was the only one who associated them with the candy store!

Well, I guess they still made "candy" that the Dems had a special hankering for - the green kind. :)

733 Spider Mensch  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:07:14pm

re: #728 loppyd

Someone might want to ask John F-ing Kerry about his patriotism. Here in MA you can check off a box on your income tax return to pay at a higher rate. The Junior Senator has never checked the box. Evah!

rice in the butt don't pay taxes, he's listed as his wife's dependent on her return.

734 DeeMack  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:07:33pm

re: #709 loppyd

Barry's head might just explode over this new McCain ad playing in Florida.
So nice to see McCain is willing to fight.

This Chavez fiasco was alllll over Miami TV. The guy is such a clown Castro wanna be! He did actually say..."Go to hell...you bunch of shit yankees". Such class. Such professionalism. /sarc

735 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:07:43pm

re: #709 loppyd

Barry's head might just explode over this new McCain ad playing in Florida.
So nice to see McCain is willing to fight.

That's a good one. There are exactly no McCain commercials running here in suburban MD or in the fleshpots of Northern Virginia. Maryland I understand, but though 0 will no doubt carry NoVA, every GOP vote there still goes into the overall battle for some very key VA electoral votes. I just hope the rest of the state is getting blanketed, I guess.

736 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:07:50pm

re: #689 eschew_obfuscation

That is just soooo full of middle-classiness! Just ask reverend Wright ;~)

Unlike the Reverend, no one is giving me a $10 million house in a gated community. Nor are people lining up to have affairs with me, and even if they were, I'm not in the market.

I, at least, can respect myself when I walk through my middle-class door.

737 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:08:20pm

re: #719 greenbear

Fannie Mae should stuck to making candy...

/

* * *
Yes, because the democrats & Harvard lawyers running these organizations obviously shouldn't be trusted with anything more complicated than handing out 30-year, fixed rate mortgages.

Or 15-year, fixed rate mortgages.

Math is not democrats' strong suit. Pouring YOUR tax money down rat holes & loopholes they've legislated is patriotism to them.

Innumeracy, non-mathematical thinking is their expertise.

738 ggt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:08:42pm

Have a great day all!

739 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:08:53pm

re: #730 redstateredneck

LOL
I'd forgotten about that Fannie May.

I remember as a kid overhearing my parents talking about their mortage & wondering why is that the candy store owns our home but there's no candy anywhere!

740 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:09:16pm

re: #714 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

OODA loop

A strange thought came to mind, an image of a large crowd goatherd to see McCain chanting of OODA! OODA! OODA!

741 loppyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:09:17pm

re: #734 DeeMack

This Chavez fiasco was alllll over Miami TV. The guy is such a clown Castro wanna be! He did actually say..."Go to hell...you bunch of shit yankees". Such class. Such professionalism. /sarc

Me thinks the Cuban community will not be voting for Barry.

742 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:10:03pm
743 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:10:59pm

re: #740 Syrah

goatherd = gathered

Dang spellcheck. It should have known what I meant.

744 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:11:00pm

re: #707 Dianna

In my case, it's planned for. There's enough money to pay in full. I just run the balance to keep my credit rating up.

Same. I could have everything paid off with 48 hours. I keep a balance ticking to keep my credit rating high.

745 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:11:03pm

re: #736 Dianna

Unlike the Reverend, no one is giving me a $10 million house in a gated community. Nor are people lining up to have affairs with me, and even if they were, I'm not in the market.

I, at least, can respect myself when I walk through my middle-class door.

....aw, you just need to learn how to spew racist, anti-American BS like Wright, Soros, Obama.....

On second thought.....we kinda like ya the way you are.....nevermind ;~)

746 loppyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:11:15pm

re: #735 Pullus Iulius

That's a good one. There are exactly no McCain commercials running here in suburban MD or in the fleshpots of Northern Virginia. Maryland I understand, but though 0 will no doubt carry NoVA, every GOP vote there still goes into the overall battle for some very key VA electoral votes. I just hope the rest of the state is getting blanketed, I guess.

We get a few MCain ads in the Boston market as there are a lot of NH/MA border towns that tune into our news and the Red Sox games. The local NH stations are flooded from what my brother tells me.

747 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:11:16pm

re: #724 ggt

Crap. Here I thought I was going to get something for (nothing) my money.

/I hate it when they steal it from my mattress.

748 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:11:37pm

re: #731 DeafDog

I can't decide who makes my skin crawl more....Dodd or Shumer....it's a tough call.

Folks out there from Connecticut should be embarassed of Dodd.

* * *
Oh my Lord, dim dems Shumer, Kerry and Claire McCaskill are responsible for China winning the Iraqi's oil exploration business, according to an article posted at The Weekly Standard Website.

Three blind democrat stooges told Iraq not to make any deals with the US unless Iraqis had some nationalized oil law in place.

Anti-American democrats gave China Iraq's oil business, after the US Military made oil business possible again in Iraq.

749 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:11:49pm

re: #654 tradewind

Iowahawk has some thoughts on Obama's ' Get In Their Faces ' approach....
[Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]

CLASSIC, me droog! What a gulliver that iowahawk has!

750 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:12:26pm

re: #742 buzzsawmonkey

Ohhhhhhhhhhh shelter
Just a mint meltaway
Just a mint meltaway

--the Rolling Stones

751 wright1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:12:42pm

re: #734 DeeMack

This Chavez fiasco was alllll over Miami TV. The guy is such a clown Castro wanna be! He did actually say..."Go to hell...you bunch of shit yankees". Such class. Such professionalism. /sarc

Awesome. Now let's roll out an ad on the nut job from Iran

752 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:12:50pm

re: #741 loppyd

Me thinks the Cuban community will not be voting for Barry.

* * *
There's plenty of younger Cubans who buy democrats' happy talk, like otherwise intelligent Americans of all stripes.

753 loppyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:13:18pm

re: #733 Spider Mensch


LOL

754 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:13:32pm

re: #471 buzzsawmonkey

My Mom grew up in DC. She used to tell me that each summer, the annual side-walk egg-fry was a big deal event. Congress would adjourn and everybody went to the beach.

Then, we invinted air-conditioning. Oh, well.

755 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:14:28pm
But the Illinois senator said he would not unveil his own specific proposals until government officials and Congress had concluded their work on a broad rescue plan that could cost hundreds of billions of dollars.

"You don't do it in a day. We've got to do it in an intelligent, systematic, thoughtful fashion," he told reporters after meeting his advisers outside Miami.

Translation: I don't know what the fuck to do.

756 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:14:59pm

re: #687 greenbear

We need to tell McCain and palin what Greek mothers used to tell their sons going off to battle:

With your shield or on it!

I think McCain certainly knows this.

757 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:15:05pm

re: #744 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Same. I could have everything paid off with 48 hours. I keep a balance ticking to keep my credit rating high.

* * *
My relatives from the old country wondered why we in America don't just pay CASH in full for our homes, as they did. When I explained what a mortgage was, they rolled their eyes at the thought of paying interest for anything.

758 DeeMack  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:15:16pm

re: #741 loppyd

Me thinks the Cuban community will not be voting for Barry.

Hee Hee...Naaaa.

But unfortunately there are a handfull of morons that have jumped ship. The community doesn't really "claim" them though! lmao.

Also, quite a bit of "rafters" that are probably Castro plants.

759 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:15:20pm

Ohhh, new - + buttons......

760 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:15:27pm
761 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:15:52pm

re: #759 jcm

Ohhh, new - + buttons......

Glad I'm not the only one seeing them!

762 DaddyG  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:16:00pm

re: #676 Syrah

The McCain ads are surprisingly good.

They are more hard hitting than any from Republicans that I can recall from the last ten years, maybe longer.

This is a Republican Presidential campaign that believes it should and must win. Its a nice change.

My hunch is that the Republicans were too worried about the press liking them and tried to play nice. McCain is no longer laboring under the illusion that the press will treat him fairly in any way.

763 snowcrash  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:16:08pm

Did the rating boxes change this morning?

764 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:16:15pm

re: #744 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

In my case, only twice a year. September/October and sometime during the spring.

765 WriterMom  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:16:19pm

NEW DINGY COLOURS

766 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:16:34pm

Anybody mis-dinging a + for a - from here out is on their own.

767 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:16:34pm

re: #759 jcm

I just noticed that. Change!

768 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:16:36pm

re: #760 buzzsawmonkey

Anybody else suddenly see new colors on the ding-buttons?

Fancy, that.

I dinged you up, they switch back when you ding a comment.

769 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:16:37pm

It's Christmas! Woot! (green and red buttons...)

770 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:16:43pm

has anyone else's rating boxes changed abruptly?

771 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:17:07pm

re: #765 WriterMom

NEW DINGY COLOURS

Hey there!

How was the reeducation camp?

772 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:17:14pm

re: #765 WriterMom

NEW DINGY COLOURS

I thought it was just me!

773 DeafDog  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:17:19pm

re: #759 jcm

Ohhh, new - + buttons......

Extreme makeover - LGF edition

774 Raven1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:17:20pm

re: #754 unreconstructed rebel

My Mom grew up in DC. She used to tell me that each summer, the annual side-walk egg-fry was a big deal event. Congress would adjourn and everybody went to the beach.

Then, we invinted air-conditioning. Oh, well.

Now all the democrats brains are fried.

775 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:17:23pm

re: #759 jcm

Cool, eh?!

776 mikalm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:17:27pm

Already posted it in Moonbats, but I thought it deserved a repeat here, if nothing else for its sheer, psychotic vileness:

Sandra Bernhard: Sarah Palin Would Be Raped by Blacks in Manhattan

777 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:17:40pm
778 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:17:44pm

re: #770 Dianna

has anyone else's rating boxes changed abruptly?

Noooo, why do you ask?
*looks around innocently*

779 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:17:48pm

re: #755 ciaospirit

No. He wants to bask in the glow of reflected glory.

780 snowcrash  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:17:49pm

On IE the boxes have color AND rounded corners.

781 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:18:03pm

re: #766 Pullus Iulius

LOL. Dingin' for Dummies?

782 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:18:10pm

Look like salmon and lime. Did Charles get a new decorator?

783 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:18:34pm
784 greenbear  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:18:44pm

re: #767 Iron Fist

I just noticed that. Change!

Christmasy!

785 loppyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:19:10pm

Purdy new colored ding dongs.

786 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:19:16pm

re: #782 redstateredneck

Look like salmon and lime. Did Charles get a new decorator?

Nah, more nectarine and green apple...

787 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:19:21pm

re: #762 DaddyG

Myhunch is that the Republicans were too worried about the press likingthem and tried to play nice. McCain is no longer laboring under theillusion that the press will treat him fairly in any way.

* * *
I bet the McCains now know what President Bush and his family have put up with forever. Don't let the bastards get you down!

I wouldn't be surprised if it had been democrats that played dirty tricks in South Carolina in 2008, to pit the McCains and Bushes against each other, as it is clear or should be, Republicans aren't racist or sexist anymore.

788 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:19:22pm

re: #782 redstateredneck

Look like salmon and lime. Did Charles get a new decorator?

MMMMMM, cedar plank BBQed salmon with a little lime garnish.

789 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:19:31pm

re: #756 Kosh's Shadow

Ahem - that was how you were to come home from battle. With it or on it, but NEVER without it.

790 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:19:32pm

re: #785 loppyd

Purdy new colored ding dongs.

I don't want to know what you're looking at ;~)

791 greenbear  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:19:41pm

re: #783 buzzsawmonkey

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, salmon and lime.

No. Tilapia and lime!

792 loppyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:19:49pm

re: #783 buzzsawmonkey

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, salmon and lime.

Yum!

793 Raven1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:19:59pm

#666 was the last of the old up and down dingers, whatever that number symbolizes!

794 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:20:11pm

re: #769 rawmuse

It's Christmas! Woot! (green and red buttons...)

Can't say I like the shades chosen, but...at least one is a bit less likely to click the wrong one.

Unless you twitch. There's no saving you once you've twitched.

795 greenbear  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:20:34pm

re: #790 eschew_obfuscation

I don't want to know what you're looking at ;~)

Psst, he doesn't know...

(chuckle) :)

796 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:20:37pm

re: #780 snowcrash

Rounded corners Firefox - but since I suffer from color 'issues', I couldn't tell you about colors.

797 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:20:54pm

re: #793 Raven1

#666 was the last of the old up and down dingers, whatever that number symbolizes!

Charles is the Anti-Christ?
LGF is the mark on our foreheads?
/// ;-P

798 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:20:54pm

Actually, the buttons on my screen are more a burnt orangeish-red and avocado. Or seafoam, if you wish. Very seventies. I used to have a refrigerator that color.

799 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:21:03pm

re: #776 mikalm

No! She didn't really say that? Is she nuts?

800 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:21:13pm
801 DeeMack  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:21:22pm

re: #741 loppyd

Me thinks the Cuban community will not be voting for Barry.


There's another bunch of folks that won't be voting for "The Lefty Messiah"!
Check out my #706 post...he got heckled by blacks at UM today!

802 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:21:29pm

These aren't the ding buttons you're looking for. /

803 loppyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:21:32pm

BBIAB

804 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:21:42pm
805 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:21:57pm

re: #787 alegrias

* * *
I bet the McCains now know what President Bush and his family have put up with forever. Don't let the bastards get you down!

Iwouldn't be surprised if it had been democrats that played dirty tricksin South Carolina in 2008, to pit the McCains and Bushes against eachother, as it is clear or should be, Republicans aren't racist or sexistanymore.

*****

Oops, I meant dirty tricks in South Carolina in 2000, eight years ago, when the media ran with the assumption Republicans slimed the McCains. It's clearer to me more than ever, it is Democrats who use race & gender & class warfare cards, rather than IDEAS, to win elections.

806 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:22:16pm

re: #793 Raven1

Crap. Down-dinged to Comment Hell.

807 snowcrash  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:22:50pm

re: #796 Cap'n DOC
Oh...red /green color blind?

808 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:23:10pm

re: #799 Dianna

No! She didn't really say that? Is she nuts?

The last one is a rhetorical question, right?

809 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:23:11pm

re: #786 scottishbuzzsaw

Nah, more nectarine and green apple...

Cantaloupe and kiwi?

810 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:23:21pm

These aren't the ding buttons I knew...

811 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:23:37pm

re: #794 Dianna

Can't say I like the shades chosen, but...at least one is a bit less likely to click the wrong one.

Unless you twitch. There's no saving you once you've twitched.

I've twitched a time or two in my day. Very pleaseant, I may add (of course, dependent on whom you are twitching with)

(or is that witching twit ?)

812 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:23:48pm

re: #806 Cap'n DOC

Did you know... They go transparent once you've clicked one?

813 bulwrk  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:24:03pm

Those aren't the ding buttons I knew.

814 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:24:10pm

re: #807 snowcrash

Yuppers.

815 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:24:13pm

Did the dow regain the early week losses?

816 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:24:19pm

re: #759 jcm

Ohhh, new - + buttons......

Big ass buttons!

817 WriterMom  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:24:23pm

Avocado/Watermelon 08!

818 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:24:47pm

re: #816 debutaunt

Big ass buttons!

what do we need 'ass buttons' for?

819 Outrider  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:25:03pm

re: #760 buzzsawmonkey

Anybody else suddenly see new colors on the ding-buttons?

Fancy, that.

yes. I was just fixen to ask if anyone noticed they changed.

820 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:25:04pm

re: #809 redstateredneck

Cantaloupe and kiwi?

LOL! I'm running out of ideas here...where did I put that box of crayons?

821 yochanan  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:25:11pm

NEXT TO NO COMERICALS HERE just some anti bush ones for dems running for congress some one should tell those clowns bush is not in congress.

822 DaddyG  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:25:19pm

re: #811 sattv4u2

I've twitched a time or two in my day. Very pleaseant, I may add (of course, dependent on whom you are twitching with)

(or is that witching twit ?)

Can you twitch your ding on a blog without being guilty of some form of harassment?

823 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:25:22pm

re: #812 Cap'n DOC

Did you know... They go transparent once you've clicked one?

You don't have to click the number to remember if you've already dinged it.

824 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:25:29pm

re: #812 Cap'n DOC

Yup. You don't get to do it again

825 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:25:30pm

Time to say goodnight, Lizards. Enjoy your new dingy buttons!

826 WriterMom  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:26:11pm

re: #818 eschew_obfuscation

Oh I am SO not touching that one. LOLOLOL.

827 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:26:16pm

re: #764 Dianna

In my case, only twice a year. September/October and sometime during the spring.

I pay my utilities with it and the occasional emergency, then pay it off every few months.

828 snowcrash  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:26:19pm

re: #814 Cap'n DOC
It's such a GUY thing. lol

829 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:26:34pm

re: #825 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Time to say goodnight, Lizards. Enjoy your new dingy buttons!

Ding you down, had to try the red one make sure it works.

Ohhhh I can go back and fix it!

830 DeafDog  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:26:42pm

re: #812 Cap'n DOC

Did you know... They go transparent once you've clicked one?

neato-torpedo

831 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:27:07pm

re: #825 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

'Night monkay!

832 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:27:23pm

re: #828 snowcrash

It is!

833 WriterMom  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:27:42pm

re: #728 loppyd

WTF? You mean voluntarily surrender more taxes than you need to?

Are you serious?

834 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:27:44pm

re: #815 newsjunkie_ky

Did the dow regain the early week losses?

NASDAQ yes. Dow off just slightly.

835 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:27:45pm

re: #818 eschew_obfuscation

what do we need 'ass buttons' for?

the zipper is broken

836 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:27:58pm

re: #779 unreconstructed rebel

No. He wants to bask in the glow of reflected glory.

Or "How do I get us out of this without having to throw any more of my friends under the bus?"

837 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:28:00pm

re: #815 newsjunkie_ky

Did the dow regain the early week losses?

* * * *
Won't it be great to have real growth in real business with real tangible assets and real JOBS, in OIL, gas, energy, in a McCain-Palin administration that has experience WORKING in a real American industry?

Todd Palin's work on the North Slope of Alaska's oil fields, and Sarah's work as Governor, to bring online the $40 BILLION dollar pipeline, is RELEVANT.

I can't wait to invest in these American assets.

838 Perry  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:28:03pm

Ooo.

Now I don't want to ding anybody so the pretty colors stay all symmetrical and stuff.

839 WriterMom  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:28:11pm

re: #830 DeafDog

On your own posts, BOTH DINGY BOXES ARE GREY.

Neat.

840 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:28:52pm

re: #804 buzzsawmonkey

I read the article; sound's still not up under Fedora (and I'm locked out of administration), so I didn't watch the video.

But the material quoted...it's insane. It's incoherent, obscene, vile, snobbish, and in extreme bad taste.

I do not regard gang rape as a mild social aberration. I do not regard a white woman saying that another woman - regardless of race or social status - should be gang raped by blacks as anything but disgusting racial stereotyping! It's actively racist, if you start thinking about it!

Good heavens, what is wrong with people!

841 Perry  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:28:59pm

But my boxes are this nice, slimming grey.

842 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:29:06pm

re: #836 ciaospirit

One does not throw one's friends under the bus. Only the useful idiots.

843 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:29:26pm

re: #809 redstateredneck

Cantaloupe and kiwi?

How about atomic tangerine and asparagus? (Wiki lists the colors!)

844 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:29:39pm

Gingrich posts a vid on you tube demonstrating to Charlie Gibson that Clinton, Kennedy, FDR and Lincoln all fought "Holy Wars".

845 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:29:56pm

Well, I'll be a ding dong daddy from Dumas!

846 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:30:03pm

The new buttons are fun! I had been logged out for a while, so I had the old buttons. When I logged in and clicked on new comments, I got the new buttons. So actually I can see both. The new ones seem bigger but maybe that's just because they're brighter.

847 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:30:03pm

re: #834 Pullus Iulius

NASDAQ yes. Dow off just slightly.

Thanks.

848 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:30:19pm

re: #808 eschew_obfuscation

The last one is a rhetorical question, right?

Not entirely.

The statement is racist, sexist, and hateful. I can't quite believe any civilized person would say that. I find myself aghast that people might applaud this sentiment!

849 DeafDog  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:30:22pm

re: #839 WriterMom

On your own posts, BOTH DINGY BOXES ARE GREY.

Neat.

I remember the old days, before the ding buttons.

New lizards have it so easy....

850 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:30:23pm

re: #840 Dianna

You needed to ask?

851 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:30:44pm

re: #843 scottishbuzzsaw

How about atomic tangerine and asparagus? (Wiki lists the colors!)

Kewl!

852 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:31:07pm

re: #811 sattv4u2

Ain't touching that, even if I'm laughing.

853 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:31:14pm

mauve & chartreuse

854 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:31:14pm

Devil Take the Hindmost: A History of Financial Speculation

/a comprehensive and fascinating read if you're into this branch oi history

855 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:31:23pm

re: #851 redstateredneck

You were waxing Crayola on us, weren't you?

856 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:31:27pm

re: #839 WriterMom

On your own posts, BOTH DINGY BOXES ARE GREY.

Neat.

Did you see my question on your visit to the reeducation camp (was there lot's of vaselline)?

(Don't answer if you don't want to talk about it)

857 DeafDog  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:31:44pm

re: #844 karmic_inquisitor

Gingrich posts a vid on you tube demonstrating to Charlie Gibson that Clinton, Kennedy, FDR and Lincoln all fought "Holy Wars".

Thanks for posting....I got to exercize a green ding!

858 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:31:54pm

re: #844 karmic_inquisitor

Gingrich posts a vid on you tube demonstrating to Charlie Gibson that Clinton, Kennedy, FDR and Lincoln all fought "Holy Wars".

* * *
Lincoln's Holy Civil War song excerpt:

As He died to make them holy,
let us die to make men free,
His truth is marching on.

Glory, glory Hallelujah....

(From the US Battle Hymn of the Republic)

859 The Other Les  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:31:58pm

re: #776 mikalm

Already posted it in Moonbats, but I thought it deserved a repeat here, if nothing else for its sheer, psychotic vileness:

Sandra Bernhard: Sarah Palin Would Be Raped by Blacks in Manhattan

I'd say (blank) Sandra Bernhard, but I can think of anyone who would want to.

860 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:31:59pm

Charles is probably thinking, "Damn, it doesn't take much to entertain them..."

861 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:32:04pm

re: #822 DaddyG

Can you twitch your ding on a blog without being guilty of some form of harassment?

you can ,, but then you'll need glasses

862 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:32:51pm

re: #815 newsjunkie_ky

The market ended a grand total of 50 points down on the week, and it's still up for the month; 5 years up 17% and 43% for 10 years.

Everything is all about perspective.

863 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:33:09pm

People, how are McCain people supposed to get good information off LGF when we yak about tiny boxes!

864 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:33:13pm

CHARLES please read this

Has this been posted?
It is devastating to Obama.
Please read it and if you think it is worthy pass it on.

865 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:33:16pm

re: #860 redstateredneck

Charles is probably thinking, "Damn, it doesn't take much to entertain them..."

LMAO!

866 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:33:29pm

re: #855 Cap'n DOC

You were waxing Crayola on us, weren't you?

:D
Just color me happy!

867 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:33:30pm

re: #860 redstateredneck

Charles is probably thinking, "Damn, it doesn't take much to entertain them..."

hehehehe ,, wait till he rolls the ball of yarn into the room ,,, or shines the flashlight on the wall

868 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:33:36pm

re: #860 redstateredneck

Charles is probably thinking, "Damn, it doesn't take much to entertain them..."

Really - we are so lame.

869 WriterMom  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:33:44pm

re: #856 eschew_obfuscation

No, I didn't see it. Well-it was not exactly pleasant, but I survived.

870 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:34:14pm

re: #844 karmic_inquisitor

Great, now I cant stop think of Holy Wars

871 WriterMom  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:34:24pm

re: #867 sattv4u2

Or one of those laser pointer things that make cats crazy...

872 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:34:39pm

re: #844 karmic_inquisitor

Well, they fought holy wars if you argue from Gibson's point of view. From anyone else, it's clear that Palin was simply invoking the same sentiment for God to protect our troops and hope that we are doing God's work.

873 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:35:02pm

re: #850 Cap'n DOC

Hey, I retain some semblance of civilization!

874 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:35:04pm

re: #848 Dianna

Not entirely.

The statement is racist, sexist, and hateful. I can't quite believe any civilized person would say that. I find myself aghast that people might applaud this sentiment!

Unfortunately, it just doesn't surprise me any more.....I just try to stay away from the links to that stuff except to remain informed about what's going on around me.

It's just sick! .....but the the left believes there is rhetorical strength in vulgarity of all kinds.

875 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:36:00pm
876 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:36:10pm

OK, cover for me, troops, I'm going back out there on the mean streets of one-party DC with my McCain 2008 button.

Where democrats' employees steal $48 million from DC and no one blinks! And those who steal $90 million from Fannie Mae are celebrated dems.

Why do I love this place so much!

877 Perry  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:36:15pm

re: #844 karmic_inquisitor

Well done, Newt.

878 snowcrash  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:36:21pm

re: #860 redstateredneck

Charles is probably thinking, "Damn, it doesn't take much to entertain them..."


This is nothing, remember the day we got avatars? Frenzy.

879 DeeMack  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:36:34pm

re: #776 mikalm

Already posted it in Moonbats, but I thought it deserved a repeat here, if nothing else for its sheer, psychotic vileness:

Sandra Bernhard: Sarah Palin Would Be Raped by Blacks in Manhattan

I LOVE these extreme moonbats! The more crap they spew...the easier it is to convinced the semi-moonbats to come to the light.

Only point you have to make to them is "see...is that what you want to be linked in with?" tisk tisk

880 DaddyG  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:36:34pm

re: #860 redstateredneck

Charles is probably thinking, "Damn, it doesn't take much to entertain them..."

"A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon" - Napoleon Bonaparte

"A blogger will post long and hard for a bit of colored graphic" - Charles

881 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:37:44pm

re: #880 DaddyG

"A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon" - Napoleon Bonaparte

"A blogger will post long and hard for a bit of colored graphic" - Charles

Colored graphics? You mean I should upgrade up from my amber monitor?

882 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:38:26pm

re: #875 buzzsawmonkey

Oh, not at all!

However, I'm worried about the DC theater that's hosting this!

883 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:38:52pm

re: #881 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Colored graphics? You mean I should upgrade up from my amber monitor?

* * *
No, stick to your conservative principles. Don't go yellow from amber though!

884 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:39:07pm

re: #860 redstateredneck

He's probably not laughing himself to tears since he's got that reticulating thing goin' on.

885 DaddyG  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:39:14pm

re: #881 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Colored graphics? You mean I should upgrade up from my amber monitor?

Are you still using the second hand selectric you picked up from the TANG garage sale too?

886 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:39:24pm

Gee, I think I prefer the hand-draw appearing plus and minus signs to these new ones.

887 Perry  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:39:38pm

#880 DaddyG
[Link: icanhascheezburger.com...]

888 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:39:48pm

Hmmm, pomegranate and apple green. Me likee, veddy retro.

889 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 1:39:50pm

What do you call it when an investigative reporter from a TV station videotapes a city councilman and his aide in