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Open | Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:37:44 am PDT

We are here on earth to do good to others. What the others are here for, I do not know.

Matthew Arnold

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1 Dustyvet  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:39:18am

Wolf cookies!

2 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:39:35am

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I read that somewhere. I think it applies to us all.

3 Dustyvet  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:40:25am

re: #2 Cap'n DOC

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I read that somewhere. I think it applies to us all.

Do unto others, then split?

4 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:40:28am

Rush is saying that one of obambi's biggest fundraisers is hosting a reception for dinnerjacket in NYC.

5 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:40:45am

Ahhh....fresh air.

6 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:40:45am

Do unto others, first.

7 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:41:32am

re: #3 Dustyvet

Do unto others, then split?

I think run like hell is more apt.

8 Dustyvet  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:41:50am

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

Rush is saying that one of obambi's biggest fundraisers is hosting a reception for dinnerjacket in NYC.

That figures...

9 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:41:58am
We are here on earth to do good to others. What the others are here for, I do not know.

Sometimes I think it's to screw me out of every single freakin' dime in taxes.

10 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:42:21am

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

Rush is saying that one of obambi's biggest fundraisers is hosting a reception for dinnerjacket in NYC.

Why am I not suprised. Some of Obama's biggest backers and friends were also supporters of Saddam Hussein.

11 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:42:34am

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

Rush is saying that one of obambi's biggest fundraisers is hosting a reception for dinnerjacket in NYC.

WHAT?

12 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:42:36am

Very good news: The Gang of Umpteen has abandoned their efforts to push the sham energy bill through the Senate. I hope my emails to two of the Gangsters helped.

13 KibbyKat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:42:41am

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

Rush is saying that one of obambi's biggest fundraisers is hosting a reception for dinnerjacket in NYC.

Shocking.

14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:42:53am

Be courteous, professional and prepared to kill everyone you meet at a moment's notice.

15 pink freud  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:42:54am

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

Rush is saying that one of obambi's biggest fundraisers is hosting a reception for dinnerjacket in NYC.

One "Penny Pritzker", Hyatt empire heiress.

16 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:42:59am

Now Rush says that 20 Black protesters were pulled out of an obambi rally.

17 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:43:02am

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

Rush is saying that one of obambi's biggest fundraisers is hosting a reception for dinnerjacket in NYC.

Pritzker, the Hyatt hotel family. Trustees of the University of Chicago, Poli Sci Department is in Pritzker Hall, deep into promoting Ayers and Dohrn and Obama.

18 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:43:39am
19 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:43:43am

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

Rush is saying that one of obambi's biggest fundraisers is hosting a reception for dinnerjacket in NYC.

You have got to be kidding me. Fundraising with a dictator whose stated goal is to destroy our country and Israel? There has got to be a law against that.

20 KibbyKat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:44:07am

re: #16 newsjunkie_ky

Now Rush says that 20 Black protesters were pulled out of an obambi rally.

I'm not near a radio, did you happen to hear what city the rally was held in?

21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:44:22am

re: #12 doppelganglander

Very good news: The Gang of Umpteen has abandoned their efforts to push the sham energy bill through the Senate. I hope my emails to two of the Gangsters helped.

They must be too busy buying out crooked businesses using responsible peoples taxes to see it thru.

22 pink freud  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:44:34am

re: #15 pink freud

One "Penny Pritzker", Hyatt empire heiress.

Rush is saying the event will be held at the Grand Central Hyatt. Pritzker is the woman who organized the 25K/ a plate dinner with Streisand.

23 JeremiahRight  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:44:36am

Do unto others, before they can do unto you.

24 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:44:52am

re: #15 pink freud

One "Penny Pritzker", Hyatt empire heiress.

Too bad Paris Hilton's squandered her credibility.

25 Junior  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:45:43am

re: #20 KibbyKat

Coral Gables

26 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:45:46am

re: #11 MandyManners

WHAT?

uh oh, here comes "Gramscian Whore of the Caliphate"!

27 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:45:47am

Rush is going nuts

28 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:45:47am

re: #24 MandyManners

Too bad Paris Hilton's squandered her credibility.

When did she have that?

29 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:45:51am

re: #11 MandyManners

That Penny Picster (or whatever her name is) heiress to Hyatt fortune that put on the recent big fundraiser in hollyweird is hosting a reception. He says he has heard it from 3 sources.
Now he is discussing the sandra barnhard 'big Black brothers raping Sarah remark'.

30 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:46:12am

The joke is so funny but I can't tell it?

31 Dustyvet  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:46:14am

re: #19 doppelganglander

You have got to be kidding me. Fundraising with a dictator whose stated goal is to destroy our country and Israel? There has got to be a law against that.

I think there is, I seem to remember something called TREASON, or was it SEDITION?

32 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:46:21am

re: #22 pink freud

Rush is saying the event will be held at the Grand Central Hyatt. Pritzker is the woman who organized the 25K/ a plate dinner with Streisand.

The McCain/Palin campaign needs to do a series of ads about this.

33 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:46:44am
' Katie Couric has a campaign-trail day in the life of Senator Biden, who says about debating Gov. Palin: 'It's kind of hard to prepare, because I don't know what she thinks.'


From my morning Politico email update. This is going to be soooo much fun, watching Biden debate Palin... which it was first.

34 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:46:50am

re: #17 lifeofthemind
Thanks for further info.

35 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:47:03am

re: #16 newsjunkie_ky

I could make a "Sorry - No Fried Chicken" comment, but I'll refrain.

36 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:47:04am

re: #26 pre-Boomer Marine brat

GRAMSCIAN WHORES OF THE CALIPHATE!

37 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:47:21am

re: #28 Sharmuta

When did she have that?

When she was born?

38 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:47:47am

Penny Pritzker Parties without Preconditions with Persia's Politico...for benefit glorious democrat undermining USA/troops/Iraq effort.

39 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:47:48am

re: #36 MandyManners

GRAMSCIAN WHORES OF THE CALIPHATE!

Thank you.
I'm been feeling sensory deprivation of late.

40 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:47:52am

re: #20 KibbyKat

Miami? it is on cnn, according to Rush.

41 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:47:54am

re: #17 lifeofthemind

Shut UP. Are you serious?
Surely this one will end up under the bus asap......

42 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:48:19am

re: #19 doppelganglander

You have got to be kidding me. Fundraising with a dictator whose stated goal is to destroy our country and Israel? There has got to be a law against that.

Or at a minimum a rapidly put together R-527 commercial showcasing Pritzker's connection to Barry.

43 JeremiahRight  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:48:20am

re: #31 Dustyvet

I think there is, I seem to remember something called TREASON, or was it SEDITION?

Trying people for sedition didn't fly even during John Adams' administration. Good luck pulling that off today.

44 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:48:34am

re: #39 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Thank you.
I'm been feeling sensory deprivation of late.

Mandy, ... my sides are hurting from laughing so hard!

45 Junior  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:49:21am

re: #33 tradewind

Do you know the debate schedule? What is it?

46 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:49:27am

re: #19 doppelganglander

You have got to be kidding me. Fundraising with a dictator whose stated goal is to destroy our country and Israel? There has got to be a law against that.

* * * *
Regular Americans don't need special laws to tell them not to party with enemy combatants.

Liberals don't follow the current laws against treason anyway.

47 Irene NYC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:49:46am

Didn't Penny grow up in Iran? I'll go check.

48 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:49:56am

re: #28 Sharmuta

When did she have that?

Theoretically, at least, as a new-born.

49 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:50:03am

re: #12 doppelganglander

That is good news. Now we need to just hold on, and let the Moratorium expire. Then Drill Here, Drill Now!

50 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:50:47am

I still wanna know if Billy Ayers' ring came from Sen. McCain's left wing.

51 Sheldon  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:50:59am

# 2
I thought it's " Do others before they do You"

52 Salem  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:51:11am

Obomba just said that women are the backbone of the country. But not the backbone of your ticket, right Barry? LOL!

53 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:51:19am

re: #45 Junior

Not for the veeps, but the first real debate is down here next Friday on Ole Miss campus.
Should be a nice opportunity for Obama to play the race card.

54 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:51:30am

re: #42 unrealizedviewpoint

Or at a minimum a rapidly put together R-527 commercial showcasing Pritzker's connection to Barry.

I'm sure that will happen, and Obama will be forced to decline the money. (For an image of the pain this will cause him, picture Jack Benny being mugged.) Once Rush has put it out there, it's not going away.

55 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:51:56am

re: #15 pink freud

One "Penny Pritzker", Hyatt empire heiress.

Ah yes, Penny Pritzker, one of Chicago's wealthier citizens.

Barack Obama was in Chicago at the time of the Superior Bank failure & has full knowledge of what went on and the cause of the collapse.

The Pritzkers, one of the nation’s wealthiest families and heirs to the fortune created by the Hyatt hotels, agreed today to pay a record $460 million to the federal government to avoid being punished for the failure of Superior Bank F.S.B., the big savings and loan institution that regulators seized last summer.

Federal officials said the payment, which will be spread out over 15 years, is the largest settlement ever in the failure of a banking institution. The failure itself is one of the largest in the last decade, one that some estimate could cost the government up to $1 billion.

Unbelievable isn’t it? The failure of Superior Bank, based in Hinsdale, cost the F.D.I.C. about $700 million, making it one of the largest federally insured financial institutions to fail in a decade. Regulators said Superior had collapsed because of poor lending practices and sloppy bookkeeping.

One of the unfortunate victims who suffered as a result of the poor lending practices at the hands of the Pritzker family was Fran Sweet, who was written about in the In These Times in 2002 (emphasis and italicized comments added):

Meanwhile, roughly 1,000 depositors who had deposits above $100,000 in a Superior account—money above the FDIC-insured limit—lost about $65 million. Most of them were middle-class individuals, attracted by Superior’s high interest rates. [Ed. note: it is presence of FDIC itself that allows unsound banks to offer high interest rates like this.] In the three months just before the bank was closed, there was a surge of $9.6 million in uninsured deposits. Since about 54 percent of the uninsured money has since been repaid as Superior was sold off, the depositors have still collectively lost about $30 million. (That just happens to be the amount that the Pritzkers gave to the University of Chicago’s Pritzker School of Medicine earlier this year.)

But wait, there's more!

Obama's subprime pal

But a letter obtained by the Chicago Sun-Times shows that until the end, Pritzker appeared to be taking a leadership role in trying to revive the bank with an expanded push into subprime loans.

Pritzker wrote in May 2001 that her family was recapitalizing the bank, and she pledged to "once again restore Superior's leadership position in subprime lending." The bank shut down in July 2001.

Pritzker's attorney Kevin Poorman and Obama's campaign spokesman emphasized that not all "subprime lending" is the "predatory" kind that Obama and White House rival Hillary Clinton rail against. The kind of subprime lending Superior was doing in 2001 was not predatory, Poorman said.

But at least some of the 1,400 victims who are still owed money seven years after the bank failed say Pritzker is the wrong person for Obama to put in charge of the campaign's finances when part of his campaign is about reforming the banking industry.

Penny has been devoting her time, energy and money into making sure Barack Obama is foisted upon us elected.

56 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:52:00am

Rush now sez that the Quakers and the Minnonites (sp) are the ones that invited dinnerjacke.

57 DaddyO  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:52:06am

Sept 19th

Arrrh, happy Talk Like a Pirate Day mateys !

58 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:52:15am

re: #52 Salem
No wonder he's in trouble, he's spineless.

59 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:52:52am

Another pretty Penny tie to Obamabi, and Ayers....Currently she is vice chair[4][5] of the Chicago Public Education Fund, the successor organization to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

60 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:52:56am

Rush says it's being held at the Grand Hyatt, but there is no evidence (yet) that Penny Pritzker knew about it.

61 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:53:09am

re: #56 newsjunkie_ky

They only want him for his beard.

62 pink freud  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:53:09am

Rush:

Quakers and Mennonites invited Ahmadinejad to the meeting at Grand Central Hyatt. Pritzker did not.

/?

63 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:53:13am

re: #15 pink freud

One "Penny Pritzker", Hyatt empire heiress.

what is with these stupid heirs and heiresses who have no clue about the real world wanting to be such idiots.

With that kind of money you'd think she/he could actually afford an excellent education and be able to discern good from evil.

64 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:53:18am

re: #46 alegrias

Liberals don't follow the current laws against treason anyway.

semi-OT ... whattcha wanna bet that Jane Fonda has, or doesn't have, a scrapbook of photos taken in North Vietnam?

65 cathypop  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:53:54am

Michelle Malkin has an article about Nobama telling his peeps to get in the face of your neighbors who do not agree with Nobama. Does this mean I finally get to use my nine iron golf club?

66 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:53:55am

re: #60 doppelganglander

Rush says it's being held at the Grand Hyatt, but there is no evidence (yet) that Penny Pritzker knew about it.

I say bullshit. Penny's been in this up to her eyeballs.

67 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:54:22am

re: #18 buzzsawmonkey

Community: Life is good.

Community organizer: Life stinks! You're miserable!

Community: No, we're fine.

Community organizer: No, you're wrong. You have grievances, like [grievance], [grievance], and [grievance].

Community: By golly, we never thought of it that way before. You're right! BIG [GRIEVANCE] IS RIPPING US OFF! Boy, are we pissed!

Community organizer: Well, you know, you could do something about that...

Community: We could? What? Tell us! Boy, are we pissed!

Community organizer: Well, you know, [grievance] is all [target]'s fault. You could attack [target].

Community: Yes! Yes! Down with [target]!

Community organizer: Heh.

Pure Alinsky... the masses have to be unhappy enough with their situation to follow your desire for change.

Note that their situation need not actually be bad, you just must convince them so they think it is.

68 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:54:22am

re: #19 doppelganglander

You have got to be kidding me. Fundraising with a dictator whose stated goal is to destroy our country and Israel? There has got to be a law against that.


The most disturbing part here , is that Penny Pritzker is Jewish.

69 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:54:33am

re: #47 Irene NYC

Didn't Penny grow up in Iran? I'll go check.

* * *
Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett (sp?) grew up in Iran while her dad was stationed there, according to Fox News yesterday.

She's slated to be Chief of Staff in an obama administration...

70 pink freud  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:54:37am

re: #63 Eowyn2

"afford an excellent education "

Think about standard academia fare of today. Maybe she did.

71 Dustyvet  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:54:38am

re: #57 DaddyO

Sept 19th

Arrrh, happy Talk Like a Pirate Day mateys !

A pirate comes back to his ship with both of his ears pierced. Another pirate without any ear rings says "Where did you get those ear rings?"

The first pirate replies:

"Me matie I was at the mall and they had a special, they were a "Buck an Ear!"

YARRRRRRRR!

72 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:55:26am

re: #29 newsjunkie_ky

That Penny Picster (or whatever her name is) heiress to Hyatt fortune that put on the recent big fundraiser in hollyweird is hosting a reception. He says he has heard it from 3 sources.
Now he is discussing the sandra barnhard 'big Black brothers raping Sarah remark'.

it sounds like something that stupid bitch would say. She really is an ignorant piece of trash.

73 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:55:53am

re: #66 Honorary Yooper

I say bullshit. Penny's been in this up to her eyeballs.

I tend to agree. Obviously she doesn't oversee the renting of every Hyatt Hotel ballroom, but if this is a fundraiser for Obama, she knows exactly what's going on. And on a side note, what the hell is wrong with the Quakers and Mennonites? Since when does being peace-loving include helping your enemies who want to kill you?

74 jamgarr  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:55:57am

re: #53 tradewind

Not for the veeps, but the first real debate is down here next Friday on Ole Miss campus.
Should be a nice opportunity for Obama to play the race card.

Wish I could come - go over to the Ajax and have some crawfish pie and fried pickles!

75 GGMac  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:56:11am

re: #18 buzzsawmonkey

Hi, buzzsaw - posted this poem on the now dead thread. The poem you posted reminded of this one. It's long been my favorite example of someone putting into words that which can't be put into words.

I am gentler now, who once demanded
All of life enwoven in one mesh,
For I have known your love in fragile hours,
Felt your eyes upon my willing flesh,
Had you bend and softly prison me within your arms.
I have known it clear as final shadows sank
The pillowed room.
None of life was life but what was here; and weakened, gentler now for
having loved,
I mark how subtle is the senses freeing when spun into a moments
miracle,
and used tenderly to solve the fact of being.

(For I have known your love, by Elizabeth Grahm)

76 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:56:30am

re: #56 newsjunkie_ky

Rush now sez that the Quakers and the Minnonites (sp) are the ones that invited dinnerjacke.

Huh?

77 Junior  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:56:30am

re: #53 tradewind

Thanks - I'm pretty sure the first VP debate is the first week of October... the 3rd I think?... (which would suck cause thats a Friday)

78 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:56:43am

Schoolboy terrorist Hammad Munshi locked up for two years after bomb guide is found in his bedroom


Britain's youngest convicted terrorist was locked up for two years this morning after plans to cause death and destruction were found hidden in his bedroom.

Hammaad Munshi was just 15 when he was recruited into a worldwide plot to wipe out non-Muslims and longed to become a ‘martyr’.

Munshi, a GCSE student and grandson of a leading Islamic scholar, led a double life, obediently attending school by day and surfing jihadist websites at night.

He was part of a cell of cyber-groomers devoted to brainwashing vulnerable Muslims into killing ‘kuffar’, or non-believers.

I guess his grandfather forgot to tell him about the ROP...

79 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:57:03am
80 Salem  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:57:22am

re: #58 tradewind

No wonder he's in trouble, he's spineless.

I just don't know how he thinks he's going to say something like that without plugging for McCain.

81 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:57:33am

re: #64 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Let's not even go there...

82 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:57:50am

Okay, I'll ask one more time and then drop it.

Does anyone know why the Cox and Forkum graphic was removed from the frontpage?

83 pink freud  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:57:52am

OT/

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[Link: www.giveawayoftheday.com...]

84 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:57:54am

re: #41 tradewind

Shut UP. Are you serious?
Surely this one will end up under the bus asap......

Correction it is the Medical School named for the Pritzkers, Poly Sci is in Pick, that has a hammer and sickle in front.

85 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:58:28am

Can one crack a rib from coughing?

86 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:59:06am
87 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:59:09am

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

Can one crack a rib from coughing?

Yes

88 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:59:11am

re: #63 Eowyn2

what is with these stupid heirs and heiresses who have no clue about the real world wanting to be such idiots.

With that kind of money you'd think she/he could actually afford an excellent education and be able to discern good from evil.

They are born with a sense of overwhelming guilt which stems from their plight of being born wealthy. So they need overcompensate, hence they go liberal, never able to see nor hear a conservative viewpoint.

89 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:59:28am

re: #41 tradewind

Shut UP. Are you serious?
Surely this one will end up under the bus asap......

Nope. She's one of the ones funding The One, The Big Zero.

90 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:59:54am

re: #56 newsjunkie_ky

Rush now sez that the Quakers and the Minnonites (sp) are the ones that invited dinnerjacke.

foolishness.
i'm getting a headache.

91 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 9:59:59am

re: #73 doppelganglander

I tend to agree. Obviously she doesn't oversee the renting of every Hyatt Hotel ballroom, but if this is a fundraiser for Obama, she knows exactly what's going on. And on a side note, what the hell is wrong with the Quakers and Mennonites? Since when does being peace-loving include helping your enemies who want to kill you?

Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) has been up to their eyeballs in that kind of stuff for a long time. They shipped a lot of "aid" to N. Vietnam during that war.

92 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:00:04am

re: #63 Eowyn2

what is with these stupid heirs and heiresses who have no clue about the real world wanting to be such idiots.

With that kind of money you'd think she/he could actually afford an excellent education and be able to discern good from evil.

Rockefeller actually instituted a system that protected his money and helped his family. From what I understand, at least in the recent past, a Rockefeller family member received educational opportunities, and, if they did well, was offered a position in the family trust. Those that did not or could not make the grade were culled and basically handed (relatively)small pensions.

This system of winnowing the successors means you seldom see news about a Rockefeller.

The Hiltons are a grand example of what goes wrong. Grandpa built the business, Dad appears to have come up in it and understand it, but the Paris generation was treated to the success only, not the labor.

93 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:00:07am

re: #87 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thanks, I think I have. whew, it hurts.

94 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:00:18am

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

Can one crack a rib from coughing?

Absolutely.

95 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:00:20am

re: #75 GGMac

That's lovely. I added it to my favorites - first time I ever used that feature.

96 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:00:26am

re: #65 cathypop

I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face," he said.


Same speech where he said ' I'm skinny but I'm tough'.
And I'm thinking yeah, banty rooster.... that's your animal right there....

97 Irene NYC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:00:40am

re: #47 Irene NYC

Didn't Penny grow up in Iran? I'll go check.


Nope, I got that wrong, it was Valerie Jarrett, another top Obama adviser. Here's a good clip from O'Reilly about Penny, Valerie, Sugar, BettyLu, etc. Click on "Politics" on the left and then "The Obama Chronicles: Part 3 Barack Obama's Mentors" on the right.

98 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:00:48am

re: #65 cathypop

Michelle Malkin has an article about Nobama telling his peeps to get in the face of your neighbors who do not agree with Nobama....

Really? They are actually telling people to do that? Well then, go ahead and make my day...

99 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:08am

re: #81 Cap'n DOC

Let's not even go there...

Oh, I agree (Tonkin Gulf, '63-66), but I just suspect they are close to her heart.

100 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:08am

re: #82 Lizard by the Bay

You'll have to ask Mr. LizardMaster himself.

101 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:22am

re: #90 nyc redneck

foolishness.
i'm getting a headache.

"My brain hurts."

102 lifeofthemind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:22am

Later

103 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:28am

re: #93 newsjunkie_ky

more common is to pull or tear a muscle on you ribcage. That hurts too.

104 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:36am

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

Can one crack a rib from coughing?

probably not but sure enough pull a muscle.
that's painful.

105 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:45am

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

Can one crack a rib from coughing?

You can separate a rib, and feels like it's cracked, hurts like a mutherf*&%er

106 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:01:51am

I've been reading through Lord of the Rings lately ... just skipping around in it, I pretty much know the whole book by heart. Here are two of my favorite passages:

The onset of the Rohirrim on the Pelennor Fields:

Suddenly the king cried to Snowmane, and the horse sprang away. Behind him his banner blew in the wind, white horse upon a field of green, but he outpaced it. After him thundered the knights of his house, but he was ever before them. Eomer rode there, the white horsetail on his helm floating in his speed, and the front of the first eored roared like a breaker foaming to the shore, but Theoden could not be overtaken. Fey he seemed, or the battle-fury of his fathers ran like new fire in his veins, and he was borne up on Snowmane like a god of old, even as Orome the Great in the battle of the Valar when the world was young. His golden shield was uncovered, and lo! It shone like an image of the Sun, and the grass flamed into green about the white feet of his steed. For morning came, morning and a wind from the sea; and darkness was removed, and the hosts of Mordor wailed, and terror took them, and they fled, and died, and the hoofs of wrath rode over them. And then all the host of Rohan burst into song, and they sang as they slew, for the joy of battle was on them, and the sound of their singing that was fair and terrible came even to the City.

Frodo yields to the power of the Ring at the Cracks of Doom:

And far away, as Frodo put on the Ring and claimed it for his own, even in Sammath Naur the very heart of his realm, the Power in Barad-dur was shaken, and the Tower trembled from its foundations to its proud and bitter crown. The Dark Lord was suddenly aware of him, and his Eye piercing all shadows looked across the plain to the door that he had made; and the magnitude of his own folly was revealed to him in a blinding flash, and all the devices of his enemies were at last laid bare. Then his wrath blazed in consuming flame, but his fear rose like a vast black smoke to choke him. For he knew his deadly peril and the thread upon which his doom now hung.

From all his policies and webs of fear and treachery, from all his stratagems and wars his mind shook free; and throughout his realm a tremor ran, and his slaves quailed, and his armies halted, and his captains suddenly steerless, bereft of will, wavered and despaired. For they were forgotten. The whole mind and purpose of the Power that wielded them was now bent with overwhelming force upon the Mountain. At his summons, wheeling with a rending cry, in a last desperate race there flew, faster than the winds, the Nazgul, the Ringwraiths, and with a storm of wings they hurtled southwards to Mount Doom.

107 vxbush  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:02:01am

I have a friend who is a Mennonite, and he somehow talked to a guy where I used to work ages ago to go to the Palestinian territories and complain to Israel about it's "policies" (spit). He thought he was a great success, but all he did was earn a flag on his name. He can never enter Israel again.

His loss.

While I like several of Mennonites I know, I also know they take their peace ideas to a complete extreme.

108 Irene NYC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:02:35am

re: #69 alegrias

Yes, thank you for the correction.
;)

109 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:02:36am

re: #103 Kenneth
Thanks, I know there is nothing you can do for either injury but let it heal.

110 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:03:05am

re: #105 jcm

You can separate a rib, and feels like it's cracked, hurts like a mutherf*&%er

Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier with 3 cracked ribs from being thrown from a horse the day before.

111 Salem  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:04:28am

re: #29 newsjunkie_ky

Now he is discussing the sandra barnhard 'big Black brothers raping Sarah remark'.

Wha? I thought Sandra Bernhard was dead....

112 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:04:29am

re: #105 jcm

You can absolutely break a rib from coughing.... did it while six months pregnant, and it was not pretty....

113 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:05:09am

re: #99 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes, I know. We should all be good little Commies since Jane says so.

114 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:05:31am

re: #111 Salem

That is just so illustrative of the far-left moonbat /perv mind that Obama was playing to at the Hollywood fundraiser. I hope it gets lots of press.

115 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:05:35am
116 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:05:37am

re: #71 Dustyvet

A pirate comes back to his ship with both of his ears pierced. Another pirate without any ear rings says "Where did you get those ear rings?"

The first pirate replies:

"Me matie I was at the mall and they had a special, they were a "Buck an Ear!"

YARRRRRRRR!


Yaaar, good one that.
A little boy is trick or treating. Rings the bell & the woman answering says"What are you supposed to be?" He answers, "I'm a pirate"
The woman smiles & says, "If your a pirate, wheres your buccaneer."
The kid says, "My buccaneer is under my bucan hat. Now I said Trick or Treat."

117 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:05:41am

Changing the subject, NRO has a terrific new article from Bill Whittle:
The Undefended City

118 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:06:18am

re: #110 Tigger2005

Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier with 3 cracked ribs from being thrown from a horse the day before.

On the 50th anniversary of that day he did it again driving a F-15 (without the broken ribs).

119 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:07:12am

re: #83 pink freud

OT/

One day offer for free download, PDF to Word Converter

[Link: www.giveawayoftheday.com...]

What a great program. Thanks!
I needed this bigtime last week.
I OCR'd everything (80 pages) then reformatted.
What a job.

120 elevenbravo1969  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:07:47am

re: #82 Lizard by the Bay

I don't know why...but I don't miss it. I never could figure out who those two guys were supposed to be or what they were doing. I like C&F but that one went over my head.

121 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:07:50am

re: #62 pink freud

Rush:

Quakers and Mennonites invited Ahmadinejad to the meeting at Grand Central Hyatt. Pritzker did not.

/?

I posted this on the thread below. From Free Republic:

Courtesy of new General Assembly President Miguel D’Escoto, who is Nicaragua’s foreign minister, and a coalition of left-wing American Christian groups, he will be the guest of honor at a private iftar dinner to celebrate the end of Ramadan. The September 25 event at the Grand Hyatt Hotel has all the trappings of a Cold War solidarity event. Joining D’Escoto as hosts are some companeros from the former Catholic priest’s Sandinista days: The World Council of Churches, the American Friends Service Committee, the Mennonites, and the US section of the World Conference of Religions for Peace.

122 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:08:23am

re: #115 buzzsawmonkey

Not Sara Bernhardt,.... the big mouthed lesbian comic, Sandra Bernhard.
One with talent, one with none.

123 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:08:48am

re: #122 tradewind

Not Sara Bernhardt,.... the big mouthed lesbian comic, Sandra Bernhard.
One with talent, one with none.

Sandra Blowhard.

124 pink freud  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:09:24am

re: #119 unrealizedviewpoint

You're welcome! Just downloaded it myself, haven't had a chance to check it out yet.

125 tradewind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:09:56am

re: #123 Tigger2005

Thanks, I'll try to get that mental picture out of my mind before lunch......

126 NC State of Mind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:11:13am

re: #124 pink
freud

Is this a limited trial version or complete?

127 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:11:29am

Watch this video, second one down on the page,

Gianna Jesson on Hannity & Colmes

It's sickening to listen to that worm Colmes defend Obama on this. Un-fricken-believable!

128 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:11:44am

Penny Pritzker is the national finance committee chair for Obama campaign

LA times

129 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:11:59am

Hah!

Rush just pointed out - 0bama did not protest when the WaPo mentioned Raines - but he is protesting now that McCain mentions it.

130 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:12:18am

re: #129 Racer X

Hah!

Rush just pointed out - 0bama did not protest when the WaPo mentioned Raines - but he is protesting now that McCain mentions it.

IT'S RACIST! ! !

131 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:12:22am
132 Dave the.....  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:13:06am
The World Council of Churches, the American Friends Service Committee, the Mennonites, and the US section of the World Conference of Religions for Peace.

If your church belongs to the WCC, or NCC, then you might be an anti-Semitic moonbat.

133 pink freud  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:13:22am

re: #126 NC State of Mind

Looks complete. If you read the comments section, you will find links to several other full-service programs. The comments are very helpful.

134 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:13:23am

re: #130 redstateredneck

IT'S RACIST! ! !

I did not know Raines was black until Rush just mentioned it. Doesn't matter.

135 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:13:26am

obama is across btw a weasel and a snake.

136 kansas  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:13:27am

re: #2 Cap'n DOC

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I read that somewhere. I think it applies to us all.


Do unto others before they do unto you. I read that somewhere.

137 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:13:37am

re: #131 buzzsawmonkey

In long form, he is saying what I observed last night; that this election is a battle between the values of the frontier, and those who hold that the values of the frontier, if they were ever a necessity, were at best an evil necessity which we have long outgrown.

Haven't read it yet, but Bill Whittle is generally spot on.

138 Dave the.....  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:14:14am
Watch this video, second one down on the page,

Gianna Jesson on Hannity & Colmes

It's sickening to listen to that worm Colmes defend Obama on this. Un-fricken-believable!

National Review Online says Obama has an ad out in response....he call her a "liar". And also says J-Mac will ban all abortions (what power he must have).

139 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:14:42am

The top four lawmakers who received campaign contributions from Lehman Brothers employees:

Hillary Clinton $409,980
Barack Obama $395,574
Charles Schumer $181,450
Christopher Dodd $165,800

__________________

Didn't the Lehman Brothers go broke?

140 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:14:55am
141 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:15:07am

re: #132 Dave the.....

If your church belongs to the WCC, or NCC, then you might be an anti-Semitic moonbat.

List of churches belonging to WCC on right sidebar.

A lot of mainstream (mine included) denominations belong, sadly.

142 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:15:39am

re: #139 Dustoff-507

The top four lawmakers who received campaign contributions from Lehman Brothers employees:

Hillary Clinton $409,980
Barack Obama $395,574
Charles Schumer $181,450
Christopher Dodd $165,800

__________________

Didn't the Lehman Brothers go broke?

Filed for Chapter 11 protection. They get to garner their assets, liquidate them according to an orderly plan, and pay off creditors according to certain classes

143 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:15:55am

re: #136 kansas

Oh, sure. Steal my thunder from me. ;o)

144 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:17:24am

re: #120 elevenbravo1969

I don't know why...but I don't miss it. I never could figure out who those two guys were supposed to be or what they were doing. I like C&F but that one went over my head.

It was a moonbat in the arms of a jihadi both about to be squished by the giant football. What's not to like?

145 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:17:33am

re: #142 Creeping Eruption


Yikes... Washington state employees retirement is with them! 0-:

146 wright1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:18:30am

The golf balls or all lined up on their tees, McCain merely needs to take out his driver and start whak'in



re: #142 Creeping Eruption

Filed for Chapter 11 protection. They get to garner their assets, liquidate them according to an orderly plan, and pay off creditors according to certain classes

147 Alouette  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:19:39am

re: #68 opnion

The most disturbing part here , is that Penny Pritzker is Jewish.

Unless she belongs to the nutbag Neturei Karta, these type of "Jews" have nothing to do with Judaism, except that they hate it.

148 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:19:39am

re: #135 nyc redneck

obama is across btw a weasel and a snake.

A sneasel?

149 NC State of Mind  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:20:04am

Video: Blacks Against Obama interrup Obama rally

I cannot believe their overt racism!

/

150 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:20:10am

I hate to be the one throwing a wet blanket on Matthew Arnold's "We are here on earth to do good to others. What the others are here for, I do not know."

There is a counter to it.

The basic principle of altruism is that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that service to others is the only justification of his existence, and that self-sacrifice is his highest moral duty, virtue and value. Do not confuse altruism with kindness, good will or respect for the rights of others. These are not primaries, but consequences, which, in fact, altruism makes impossible. The irreducible primary of altruism, the basic absolute is self-sacrifice -- which means: self-immolation, self-abnegation, self-denial, self-destruction -- which means: the self as a standard of evil, the selfless as a standard of the good.
--Ayn Rand, Philosophy: Who Needs It (1982)

151 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:20:22am

re: #75 GGMac

That is just lovely.

152 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:21:15am
153 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:21:55am

re: #82 Lizard by the Bay

Okay, I'll ask one more time and then drop it.

Does anyone know why the Cox and Forkum graphic was removed from the frontpage?

Not sure, but I've been waiting for something to fill that space.

154 wright1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:22:01am

In fact, if McCain was smart, whenever Obama and his surrogates start playing the "race card", he should declare from the rooftops, we will not let what happened to Bill & Hillary Clinton, namely, falsely accusing them that they were running a rascist campaign happen here!

155 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:23:05am

re: #149 NC State of Mind

Video: Blacks Against Obama interrup Obama rally

I cannot believe their overt racism!

/


Ha!
Teleprompter man still reading his message.

156 Dustyvet  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:23:13am

re: #86 Kenneth

Breaking: Obama's email hacked!

It's an inside job...nothing more.

157 XMarine  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:23:44am

Definition of LIBERAL according to Webster:
Not bound by orthodox tenets or established forms in
political or religious philosophy; independent in opinion;
not conservative; friendly to great freedom in the
constitution or administration of government; having
tendency toward democratic or republican, as distinguished
from monarchical or aristocratic, forms ...

Now, those people we call "Liberals" are definitely bound by their leftist philosophy and are manifestly unfriendly to freedom in both government and ideology.

Re: #46
Regular Americans don't need special laws to tell them not to party with enemy combatants.

Liberals Leftists don't follow the current laws against treason anyway.

Fixed it for you, and best regards to you, alegrias.

158 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:23:51am

re: #149 NC State of Mind

Video: Blacks Against Obama interrup Obama rally

I cannot believe their overt racism!

/

Dow up 448 in the corner. Too funny.

159 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:23:52am

re: #55 Honorary Yooper

Penny has been devoting her time, energy and money into making sure Barack Obama is foisted upon us elected.

I'm sending those to everyone I know.

160 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:24:01am

re: #145 Dustoff-507

Yikes... Washington state employees retirement is with them! 0-:

My version is very simplistic. So much depends on so many things, I would wait to be worried.

161 jill e  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:25:15am

What do we live for, if not to make life less difficult for each other? —George Eliot

162 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:25:40am

re: #88 unrealizedviewpoint

They are born with a sense of overwhelming guilt which stems from their plight of being born wealthy. So they need overcompensate, hence they go liberal, never able to see nor hear a conservative viewpoint.

It's so stupid, because that wealth can be put into innovation and create new jobs. Imagine what Bin Laden could have done if his wealth had been invested in free enterprise.

163 TheMatrix31  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:25:45am

Please stop saying "my friends". Please?

164 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:25:56am

Can't a brother get a break?

165 Gearhead  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:27:12am

re: #149 NC State of Mind

Video: Blacks Against Obama interrup Obama rally

I cannot believe their overt racism!

/

"Lets get back to work. Settle down everybody, lets get back to work." "Hey folks, can't I just finish my waffling?"

166 PAgirlinNC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:27:58am

re: #149 NC State of Mind

At the RNC the crowd cheered "U-S-A" when interrupted by the nutcases. At an Obama rally they chant "Yes-We-Can." I think that about says it all....

167 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:29:00am

re: #156 Dustyvet

LOL. Michelle - pick up eggs on the way back from the ME. You're rotten.

168 Gearhead  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:29:22am
We are here on earth to do good to others.

Does helping to register Republican voters count?

169 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:29:54am

Liberal friend just had a comment on the loan fiasco.

Privatize the Profits
Socialize the costs.

He got that one right.

170 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:30:14am

re: #117 doppelganglander

Changing the subject, NRO has a terrific new article from Bill Whittle:
The Undefended City

That is indeed terrific!
Sent shivers down my spine - thanks for the link!

171 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:30:17am

re: #160 Creeping Eruption


Not worried. I'm not part of them. But our DEM gov in WA needs to speak up. (-:

172 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:30:56am

re: #122 tradewind

Not Sara Bernhardt,.... the big mouthed lesbian comic, Sandra Bernhard.
One with talent, one with none.

What did she say?

173 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:31:02am

re: #169 jcm

Liberal friend just had a comment on the loan fiasco.

Privatize the Profits
Socialize the costs.

He got that one right.

Was he making an observation or a recommendation?

174 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:31:21am

Missing email in the Onion Obama inbox spoof:

JWright: Hey man, when can I come back? Hiding out in Africa is a bummer.

175 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:31:48am

re: #150 Syrah

I hate to be the one throwing a wet blanket on Matthew Arnold's "We are here on earth to do good to others. What the others are here for, I do not know."

There is a counter to it.

The basic principle of altruism is that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that service to others is the only justification of his existence, and that self-sacrifice is his highest moral duty, virtue and value. Do not confuse altruism with kindness, good will or respect for the rights of others. These are not primaries, but consequences, which, in fact, altruism makes impossible. The irreducible primary of altruism, the basic absolute is self-sacrifice -- which means: self-immolation, self-abnegation, self-denial, self-destruction -- which means: the self as a standard of evil, the selfless as a standard of the good.
--Ayn Rand, Philosophy: Who Needs It (1982)


My view is, people should be left alone to do what they want with their lives as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others. You want to make a lot of money and keep it for yourself? Cool. You want to spend your life as an impoverished monk? Great! You prefer something in between those extremes? Excellent. Let's just quit judging the way people choose to live their lives as long as they aren't doing undue harm to others or breaking laws or sponging off the public.

176 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:32:09am

re: #162 debutaunt

I read somewhere the other day (can't remember where) that
college students
academics
journalists
trust fund babies
40 year olds in mama's garage

all have one thing in common. They are all well-insulated from reality, so they are inclined to see the world in idealistic terms.

177 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:33:16am

re: #173 Syrah

Was he making an observation or a recommendation?

Observation, that's what made my jaw drop.

Maybe he's starting to see some light.

178 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:33:54am

re: #120 elevenbravo1969

I don't know why...but I don't miss it. I never could figure out who those two guys were supposed to be or what they were doing. I like C&F but that one went over my head.

A moonbat and a terrorist go into a bar...

179 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:34:04am

re: #175 Tigger2005

My view is, people should be left alone to do what they want with their lives as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others. You want to make a lot of money and keep it for yourself? Cool. You want to spend your life as an impoverished monk? Great! You prefer something in between those extremes? Excellent. Let's just quit judging the way people choose to live their lives as long as they aren't doing undue harm to others or breaking laws or sponging off the public.

I would happily accept that. It is when others want to compel people into their service or the service of "others" that I get nervous.

180 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:34:22am

re: #171 Dustoff-507

Not worried. I'm not part of them. But our DEM gov in WA needs to speak up. (-:

The Queen?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA
*cough*
*gasp*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA

Yeah, right.

181 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:34:37am

Another missing email in the Onion Obama inbox spoof:

LeninDesigns: Your new flag design is ready. Pick up flags on Jan 20.

182 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:34:53am

re: #177 jcm

Observation, that's what made my jaw drop.

Maybe he's starting to see some light.

It sounds like he revealed something important about his inner worldview. He is not among the lost.

183 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:35:31am

Just saw two houses a few miles down the road proudly displaying McCain Pali yard signs. Not an Obama in sight.

184 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:35:36am

re: #180 jcm


Ahhhhhhhhhh come on JCM, were only 3.2 billion in debt! LOL

185 DaddyO  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:35:42am

re: #161 jill e

What do we live for, if not to make life less difficult for each other? —George Eliot


"Our very lives, as ex-problem drinkers, depend upon our constant thought of others and how we may help meet their needs"

/Bill Wilson

186 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:36:24am

re: #171 Dustoff-507

Not worried. I'm not part of them. But our DEM gov in WA needs to speak up. (-:

Frankly I think a number of pension funds (actually their managers once the dust settles) are fucked.

187 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:36:31am

re: #181 faraway

LOL. This could go on for days. Perhaps it could enjoy its own thread? We could do drive-by voting with the dinger system.

188 TheMatrix31  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:36:39am

re: #183 vagabond trader

Just saw two houses a few miles down the road proudly displaying McCain Pali yard signs. Not an Obama in sight.

We have two houses with Obama stuff on their car and house window a few houses down from us. Hooray for LA.

189 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:37:19am

You know, this stuff about the Pritzkers and Hyatt reminded me that a few years ago, a Chabad I go to would have their High Holiday services at a Regency (Hyatt division).
Suddenly, the location got changed to a nearby Radisson. The rabbi, being a proper gentleman, would not say why, just that "anyone who wants to rent a room for a function should go to the Radisson"
This makes me wonder what really happened.

190 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:37:35am

re: #186 Creeping Eruption


You can be sure of that. JCM and I are having a big laught about it.

Were both from WA state. (-:

191 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:37:47am

re: #182 Syrah

It sounds like he revealed something important about his inner worldview. He is not among the lost.

I think so, he's a homeowner so this ones hitting close.
A conservative is a liberal mugged by reality.

192 kansas  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:38:14am

re: #158 faraway

Dow up 448 in the corner. Too funny.

Dow up doesn't matter. Only down.

193 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:38:15am

re: #189 Kosh's Shadow

You know, this stuff about the Pritzkers and Hyatt reminded me that a few years ago, a Chabad I go to would have their High Holiday services at a Regency (Hyatt division).
Suddenly, the location got changed to a nearby Radisson. The rabbi, being a proper gentleman, would not say why, just that "anyone who wants to rent a room for a function should go to the Radisson"
This makes me wonder what really happened.

Bet the Pritzkers didn't get their Shmura Matzah or Shalech Manot that year. :)

194 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:38:18am

re: #188 TheMatrix31

Hey, it is LA, my sighting was in the blue state of RI, near the blue border of CT. Encouraging.

195 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:39:21am

re: #181 faraway

Another missing email in the Onion Obama inbox spoof:

LeninDesigns: Your new flag design is ready. Pick up flags on Jan 20.

The one with 57 stars?

196 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:40:48am

re: #106 Tigger2005

I'm sure you can guess my favorite paragraphs.

197 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:40:54am

re: #195 Kosh's Shadow

It will be fewer than that. :~)

198 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:40:57am

re: #176 unreconstructed rebel

I read somewhere the other day (can't remember where) that
college students
academics
journalists
trust fund babies
40 year olds in mama's garage

all have one thing in common. They are all well-insulated from reality, so they are inclined to see the world in idealistic terms.

This insulation is what makes for a voting democrat.

199 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:41:15am
200 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:41:19am

Inbox:
MTV: Confirmed Cribs taping on Jan 20th.

201 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:41:26am

re: #149 NC State of Mind

That was classic, but I couldn't figure out what their issue is. Are they claiming Obama is endorsed by the KKK? Is this the black version of Trooferism?

202 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:42:03am

re: #186 Creeping Eruption

Frankly I think a number of pension funds (actually their managers once the dust settles) are fucked.

True, but our Gov. in WA is famous for not taking responsibility for anything. That little habit of hers has cost Dustoff and I plenty.

203 kansas  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:42:15am

re: #201 doppelganglander

That was classic, but I couldn't figure out what their issue is. Are they claiming Obama is endorsed by the KKK? Is this the black version of Trooferism?

Don't rule out the possibility that these are Obama stooges.

204 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:43:01am

Inbox:
Weatherman Bill: Don't be near the Pentagon on Wednesday.

205 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:44:30am

re: #199 buzzsawmonkey

BIG updingy for this one.

206 missouri boy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:44:36am

The chairman of the Senate banking committee, Democrat Chris Dodd, said the United States could be "days away from a complete meltdown of our financial system" and Congress is working quickly to prevent that.

Now everything will be OK...CONgress is working on it!

207 wright1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:45:24am

re: #203 kansas

Don't rule out the possibility that these are Obama stooges.

It could be a prop by Obama but I do not think the one sign would say No to gay marriage. The KKK sign might have been a reference to Jeremiah Wright's comments. Hard to see.

208 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:45:32am

re: #206 missouri boy

As opposed to actual PROgress.

209 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:46:23am

re: #206 missouri boy

The chairman of the Senate banking committee, Democrat Chris Dodd, said the United States could be "days away from a complete meltdown of our financial system" and Congress is working quickly to prevent that.

Now everything will be OK...CONgress is working on it!

HEY ,,, DODD ,,, HANDS OFF ,, take a look at the market yesterday and today ,,, REPUBLICANS worked on a fix ,, looks like the world approves !

210 wright1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:46:48am

re: #206 missouri boy

The chairman of the Senate banking committee, Democrat Chris Dodd, said the United States could be "days away from a complete meltdown of our financial system" and Congress is working quickly to prevent that.

Now everything will be OK...CONgress is working on it!

That is like Bin Laden saying we need to protect ourselves against terrorism

211 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:47:01am

Just because:

What is the difference between a hockey mom and a killer bunny? Lipstick.

212 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:47:17am

re: #202 jcm


Her comes a payroll tax. 0-;

213 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:47:36am

Inbox:
David aka Popcorn: Hey, open the bus doors. The FBI is after me.

214 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:47:40am

re: #206 missouri boy

No, actually the awesome trio lead by Henry Paulson is doing that.

I loved the picture on the front of the WaPo today. Pelosi looked so ...... lost.

215 kansas  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:48:59am

re: #111 Salem

Wha? I thought Sandra Bernhard was dead....

That's wishful thinking.

216 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:49:09am

Heh.

Just saw a car driving down the street with an "Obama '08" bumper sticker. Someone stuck a "s" sticker over the "b". Perfect match - took some effort making up those "s" stickers. I doubt the driver even noticed - probably been like that for days (he had a second "Obama '08" sticker on the back window that was not tampered with).

Too funny!

217 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:49:12am

re: #179 Syrah

I would happily accept that. It is when others want to compel people into their service or the service of "others" that I get nervous.

Yes, that's the thing. It must always be a free choice.

I recently read the book "The Go-Giver." Now, a lot of liberals like this book. But I didn't find the ideas in it that liberal (except for some things right at the end). The basic idea was, you have a better chance of making money (and keeping it) when you are focused less on making money than you are on providing excellent service. People will pay more for high value. The thing is, this is not "sacrificial" service, it's an exchange. Even when you give without keeping a tally, without expecting a "favor" in return, you're building networks and a good name that may help you down the road when you least expect it. But again, it has to be a free, personal choice.

"The Fountainhead" had some fantastic ideas. I don't agree completely with Ayn Rand's philosophy but I don't throw the baby out with the bathwater either. The main character, Howard Roark, is a fiction hero of mine almost on the level of Atticus Finch. He absolutely refuses to compromise his principles. He never gives less than his full talent and abilities to any project. In the end, he probably "gives" more than it's really possible to compensate, but he can do nothing less.

218 wright1  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:49:46am

re: #214 unreconstructed rebel

No, actually the awesome trio lead by Henry Paulson is doing that.

I loved the picture on the front of the WaPo today. Pelosi looked so ...... lost.


I heard her crowing on Laura Ingraham in a sound clip saying: No, no , no to every question "Aren't the democrats to blame for htis crisis?" Pathetic

219 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:49:50am

Inbox:
GwenIfill: Your debate questions look dreamy.

220 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:50:09am

re: #212 Dustoff-507

Her comes a payroll tax. 0-;

Rossi as chair of the finance committee dug us out of the last hole. I think he can do it again.

State Revenue in WA is project to go up 8%, the spending deficit is rushing past $2 Billion toward $3 B. Olympia is run by morons.

221 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:50:48am

re: #218 wright1

I heard her crowing on Laura Ingraham in a sound clip saying: No, no , no to every question "Aren't the democrats to blame for htis crisis?" Pathetic

I wanted to reach through the radio and bitch slap her!

222 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:51:20am

re: #216 Racer X

Heh.

Just saw a car driving down the street with an "Obama '08" bumper sticker. Someone stuck a "s" sticker over the "b". Perfect match - took some effort making up those "s" stickers. I doubt the driver even noticed - probably been like that for days (he had a second "Obama '08" sticker on the back window that was not tampered with).

Too funny!

Vandalism is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

223 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:52:00am

re: #220 jcm


Long as we don't have another Voting problem. 0-:

This voting by mail has me very nervous

224 GGMac  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:53:48am

re: #79 buzzsawmonkey

Nice. Very nice.

Yes - a lovely, non-nuanced differentiation between love and screwing around.

225 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:54:00am

re: #223 Dustoff-507

Long as we don't have another Voting problem. 0-:

This voting by mail has me very nervous

I plan on voting by mail this year - 147 times.

226 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:54:18am

*snicker*

227 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:55:11am

re: #216 Racer X

Heh.

Just saw a car driving down the street with an "Obama
'08" bumper sticker. Someone stuck a "s" sticker over the "b". Perfect
match - took some effort making up those "s" stickers. I doubt the
driver even noticed - probably been like that for days (he had a second
"Obama '08" sticker on the back window that was not tampered with).

Too funny!

You sure it was vandalism? Given how kooky the left has gotten, I wouldn't be surprised if the driver was supporting Bin Laden!

228 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:55:21am

re: #216 Racer X

So, whatcher sayin is we all need to go by the local hardware store & pick-up a bunch of stick-ons of the letter s?

/I may be arrested this weekend

229 Dustoff-507  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:56:15am

re: #225 Racer X


Now I like that.... didn't that happen last time in Wa state. 0-:

230 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:56:24am

re: #228 unreconstructed rebel

So, whatcher sayin is we all need to go by the local hardware store & pick-up a bunch of stick-ons of the letter s?

/I may be arrested this weekend

I'd rather get some "D"s & "Y"s to paste over the "HOPE" posters - change 'em into "DOPE" & "HYPE"

231 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:56:54am

re: #228 unreconstructed rebel

So, whatcher sayin is we all need to go by the local hardware store & pick-up a bunch of stick-ons of the letter s?

/I may be arrested this weekend

Whatever color the background is for the OBAMA 08 one is, get a blank of that also. Cover the "8" and PRESTO ,, "OBAMA 0"

232 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:56:59am

re: #228 unreconstructed rebel

So, whatcher sayin is we all need to go by the local hardware store & pick-up a bunch of stick-ons of the letter s?

/I may be arrested this weekend

Forget that, just hack Obama's Yahoo account.

233 victor_yugo  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:57:04am

re: #222 MandyManners

Vandalism is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

That assumes the driver didn't do it him/herself.

234 Maximu§  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:58:27am

Well my Momma just told me on the phone she thinks Obama is "the Devil".....needless to say, she's a McCain supporter.

235 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:59:13am

re: #223 Dustoff-507

Long as we don't have another Voting problem. 0-:

This voting by mail has me very nervous

Let's hope Sam Reed's changes and purge of 500,000 invalid registrations helps.

Yes Lizards, The WA Sec State found 1 out of every 7 voter registrations was invalid. Gorton in '00 lost his Senate seat to Cantwell by 2000 votes, and Rossi lost in '04 by 133. It doesn't take a whiz kid to figure out a few of 500,000 invalid registrations got voted.

ACORN has been very busy in WA, and 5 members have done or are doing jail time for fraud.

The encouraging thing is even with that extent of effort they only won by a fraction of a percentage. In a straight up fair election guess who wins?

236 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 10:59:43am

Obama supports U.S. economic recovery efforts

Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said on Friday he supported efforts by the U.S. Treasury and Federal Reserve to shore up confidence in the financial markets and said he would hold off from presenting his own economic recovery plan.

Too late asshole, train's left the station.

/what a jerk, just yesterday he was loudly and proudly bad mouthing the economy

237 tokyobk  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:00:22am

The Pritzkers do have a record of supporting Jewish causes, so I would be suprised...

238 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:00:26am

re: #216 Racer X

Subtle and harmless delicious fun. :)

239 dingleB  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:00:41am

re: #83 pink freud

Thanks for the link. I lost my previous pdf converter software when my laptop crashed.

240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:00:44am

re: #231 sattv4u2

Whatever color the background is for the OBAMA 08 one is, get a blank of that also. Cover the "8" and PRESTO ,, "OBAMA 0"

It's Prussian Blue.

241 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:00:44am

re: #233 victor_yugo

That assumes the driver didn't do it him/herself.

he's a democrat and an Obama supporter. he doeesn't do ANYTHING by himself. There must have been a gov't program to help him!

242 GGMac  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:01:20am

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

Can one crack a rib from coughing?

243 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:01:35am

re: #222 MandyManners

Vandalism is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Do you mean that in a 70s/blaxploitation sense?

244 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:01:36am

re: #235 jcm

Let's hope Sam Reed's changes and purge of 500,000 invalid registrations helps.

Yes Lizards, The WA Sec State found 1 out of every 7 voter registrations was invalid. Gorton in '00 lost his Senate seat to Cantwell by 2000 votes, and Rossi lost in '04 by 133. It doesn't take a whiz kid to figure out a few of 500,000 invalid registrations got voted.

ACORN has been very busy in WA, and 5 members have done or are doing jail time for fraud.

The encouraging thing is even with that extent of effort they only won by a fraction of a percentage. In a straight up fair election guess who wins?

A voter fraud conviction should result in a prison conviction of life without parole. It undermines our entire government and should be harshly punished.

245 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:02:07am

re: #217 Tigger2005

I have my disagreements with Rand as well. Those libertarians who treat her as a god have lost something along the way.

Her archetypes are a bit comic bookish, but I think they serve their purpose well.

Howard Roark is the archetypal libertarian hero, an example and a guide, and in that purpose, the character works.

I have posted many links to Obama's Call to Service speech in Colorado. I think it reveals a great deal about his worldview and his concept of the role of the state (the community) and the proper relationship of citizens to it.

Have you seen it?

246 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:02:07am

A lot of moral equivalence in "The Catcher in the Rye." I think there's a part where a character says the American military was no better than the enemy it was fighting.

re: #199 buzzsawmonkey

One of the books which was very popular throughout the '60s, was recommended on many advanced highschool and college reading lists, was Paul Goodman's "Growing Up Absurd". Basically, the book goes on at length about how useless and soul-destroying work and modern society is; it is a clarion call to the young to enter upon the training-ground of college and their subsequent entry into life convinced of their own uselessness, the pointlessness of their endeavor, the worthlessness of work, etc. I suspect that the damage done by this book is incalculable.

Contrast this book with, say, Kipling's raucous and slightly fictionalized account of his schooldays in the book "Stalky & Co." The United Services College, which Kipling attended, prepared boys for the Army and the Indian Civil Service. Kipling was something of a fish out of water there, in that being very nearsighted he was ineligible for the Army--but it gave him an appreciation for the virtues the school taught.

Today, of course, a high-school or college student is far more likely to read something like Catcher in the Rye than they are to read Stalky & Co. Though Catcher in the Rye is, like Stalky, a work of fiction, it does much to inculcate the value of Goodman's nonfiction book.

Who is Holden Caulfield? A rich-boy screwup, expelled from yet another private school. The book details his aimless wandering around New York between the time he leaves the school and must go home to face the music. He spends the time ranting against "phonies," and against his brother who is "being a whore" for working as a screenwriter--i.e., having a productive job. His ambition is to be that nonexistent thing, a "catcher in the rye," who prevents a number of small children from falling off an imaginary cliff--i.e., prevents them from growing up into adults, keeping them children forever.

I mention these things because, having read Bill Whittle's essay linked to upthread, in which he discusses how children are taught how this country is evil and not worth defending, I think it worth pointing out that disaffection from the embracement of adulthood has been an article of faith with the "thinking" establishment for fifty years plus at least--and that the material foisted upon kids as "literature" is designed to inculcate that worldview at precisely the time that kids should be viewing the world beyond their schools with excitement and anticipation.

247 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:02:20am

re: #242 GGMac

Yes, from sneezing too.

248 Maximu§  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:02:20am

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

Can one crack a rib from coughing?


Happened to my wife, the answer is yes.

249 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:02:27am

re: #236 Killian Bundy

Obama supports U.S. economic recovery efforts

Too late asshole, train's left the station.

/what a jerk, just yesterday he was loudly and proudly bad mouthing the economy

It means his 300 advisers are in the back room fighting over a mild socialist solution or the out and out Marxist solution.

250 GGMac  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:04:00am

re: #242 GGMac

That's supposed to be a reply to #85 newsjunkie_ky.

Yes, you can break a rib when coughing. Have an auntie-in-law who has had it happen several times; bones compromised from lifetime of seizure meds.

251 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:04:19am

re: #226 MandyManners

*snicker*

Chocolate? WHERE?!

252 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:04:30am

re: #228 unreconstructed rebel

So, whatcher sayin is we all need to go by the local hardware store & pick-up a bunch of stick-ons of the letter s?

/I may be arrested this weekend

NO!

I am not saying that! I am not saying that taking the "s" from an old "Edwards '08" sticker is a perfect match. Not saying that at all.

253 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:04:31am

re: #236 Killian Bundy

Obama supports U.S. economic recovery efforts

Too late asshole, train's left the station.

/what a jerk, just yesterday he was loudly and proudly bad mouthing the economy

He will likely spin his announcement as (uh) "statesmanship".

254 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:04:46am

re: #243 Occasional Reader

Do you mean that in a 70s/blaxploitation sense?

Shut your mouth!

255 FrogMarch  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:04:52am

re: #236 Killian Bundy

Obama supports U.S. economic recovery efforts

Too late asshole, train's left the station.

/what a jerk, just yesterday he was loudly and proudly bad mouthing the economy

Obama has a plan.
/channeling John Kerry.

256 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:05:34am

re: #248 Maximu§

Happened to my wife, the answer is yes.

Another way to crack a rib is to get drunk & trip on the stairs, or so I have been told.

257 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:05:58am

re: #252 Racer X

NO!

I am not saying that! I am not saying that taking the "s" from an old "Edwards '08" sticker is a perfect match. Not saying that at all.

And I not saying that that is too funny!

258 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:06:15am

re: #251 Fat Jolly Penguin

Chocolate? WHERE?!

Ask Laura Booth?

259 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:06:33am

re: #252 Racer X

LOL

260 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:06:40am

re: #236 Killian Bundy

just yesterday he was loudly and proudly bad mouthing the economy

You must be a liar and a racist to bring up something that happened so long ago.

261 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:06:54am

re: #256 opnion

Another way to crack a rib is to get drunk & trip on the stairs, or so I have been told.

Or, to trip over a bundle of feline fur and fall down the stairs.

262 Tigger2005  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:07:01am

A question I may never have answered to my satisfaction:

Why do people who claim to hate everything every done by old white European males always propose a "solution" that was invented by old white European males?

263 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:07:45am

re: #230 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'd rather get some "D"s & "Y"s to paste over the "HOPE" posters - change 'em into "DOPE" & "HYPE"

I saw a car with 0bama stickers and one said "Got hope?"
(Yes, I hope 0bama loses)
Anyway, changing that to "Got dope?" would get this guy harassed by the police and all the random druggies.
Too nasty.

264 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:07:49am

re: #206 missouri boy

Dodd is a traitorous pos and should be led out of the senate in handcuffs, along with Rangel and Frank. What, us worry?

265 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:07:52am

re: #261 MandyManners

Or, to trip over a bundle of feline fur and fall down the stairs.

The cat did it on purpose.

266 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:08:34am

re: #258 MandyManners

Ask Laura Booth?


GMTA
I still got left over snickers from the laura Booth DT from yesterday..
You can have the left overs Jolly..

267 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:08:43am

re: #264 vagabond trader

Dodd is a traitorous pos and should be led out of the senate in handcuffs, along with Rangel and Frank. What, us worry?

I am praying that my fellow nutmeg staters will boot his *ss next election.

268 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:08:44am

re: #255 FrogMarch

Obama has a plan.

A plan, my Ass.

If he's channeling that Ass he's got a MagicHat - and not much more than that.

269 BigJohn  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:08:48am

Inbox

John Kerry - I was in Vietnam

270 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:08:49am

re: #255 FrogMarch

Obama has a SECRET plan that he will only reveal if he is elected ,, trust him.
/channeling John Kerry.

fixed

271 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:09:14am

re: #262 Tigger2005

A question I may never have answered to my satisfaction:

Why do people who claim to hate everything every done by old white European males always propose a "solution" that was invented by old white European males?

Well, one group of old white European males actually were productive. The other group of old white European males, slept around, hung out at the library, all while mooching off of their wife's family.

272 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:09:15am

re: #269 BigJohn

Inbox

John Kerry - I was in Vietnam

I wonder if he ever got injured?

273 JacksonTn  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:09:25am

re: #201 doppelganglander

That was classic, but I couldn't figure out what their issue is. Are they claiming Obama is endorsed by the KKK? Is this the black version of Trooferism?

Do you think they are members of Uhuru? I think they were protesting at one of his rallys once:

[Link: www.uhurunews.com...]

274 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:09:53am

re: #236 Killian Bundy

Killian, you are, as always, very concise and accurate.

I don't think an upding was enough.

275 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:10:22am

re: #269 BigJohn

Ohhh my... That's surging I tell ya. Definitely surging.

276 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:10:23am

re: #267 Ford_Prefect

Where are you Ford? I'm in the northeast corner of CT.Why has this guy and so many others been repeatedly sent back to Washington in order to pick our pockets? Term limits now!

277 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:10:39am

re: #269 BigJohn

Inbox

John Kerry - I was in Vietnam

/seared into his memory

278 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:10:52am

re: #244 Perplexed

A voter fraud conviction should result in a prison conviction of life without parole. It undermines our entire government and should be harshly punished.

How about they are put on an island with a corrupt voting system and are never voted off?

279 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:11:10am

re: #272 sattv4u2

I wonder if he ever got injured?

I heard it is was a cooking accident involving some rice, but may have heard wrong.

280 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:11:13am

re: #272 sattv4u2

Got Band-Aids?

281 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:11:16am

re: #256 opnion

Another way to crack a rib is to get drunk & trip on the stairs, or so I have been told.

Ma Reject (my mom), who is somewhat short in stature, actually cracked a rib by stretching to grab a sock out of the bottom of the washing machine.

282 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:11:29am

re: #278 debutaunt

How about they are put on an island with a corrupt voting system and are never voted off?

Sounds like Cuba.

283 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:11:40am

re: #277 HoosierHoops

/seared into his memory

everybody's

284 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:11:49am

re: #279 jcm

Yup. Rice Pilaf.

285 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:12:01am

re: #280 Cap'n DOC

Got Band-Aids?

no ,, but plenty of Kerry and now Obama supporters like Kool Aid ,,, does that count ?

286 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:12:10am

re: #244 Perplexed

A voter fraud conviction should result in a prison conviction of life without parole. It undermines our entire government and should be harshly punished.

and while in prison, they can organize the community to demand voting rights:) poor disenfranchised convicts.

287 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:12:12am

re: #265 Ford_Prefect

The cat did it on purpose.

No. He was chasing the evil mouse. DEATH TO MICE.

288 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:12:16am

re: #278 debutaunt

How about they are put on an island with a corrupt voting system and are never voted off?


Chicago's not an island, but it'll do in a pinch.

289 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:12:43am

bbl

290 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:13:04am

re: #285 sattv4u2

That would have prolly got him another Star - or something.

291 midwestgak  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:13:04am

re: #287 MandyManners

No. He was chasing the evil mouse. DEATH TO MICEMickey Mouse.

292 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:13:12am

re: #267 Ford_Prefect

I am praying that my fellow nutmeg staters will boot his *ss next election.


what is the nutmeg state?

293 kansas  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:13:50am

"Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

294 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:13:50am

re: #284 Cap'n DOC

Yup. Rice Pilaf.

Rice Pilass, don' you mean?

295 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:14:02am

re: #292 Eowyn2

what is the nutmeg state?

CT

296 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:14:05am

re: #292 Eowyn2

A bastion of libral elitism aka Connecticut.

297 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:14:09am

re: #276 vagabond trader

Where are you Ford? I'm in the northeast corner of CT.Why has this guy and so many others been repeatedly sent back to Washington in order to pick our pockets? Term limits now!

I could not agree more.
I am outside the capital city. I have been asking myself the same question for a long time. People would be screaming for him to be ousted if he were from another state, but they will all make excuses for him since he is from our state. I guess it is the old "he may be a crook, but he's our crook" line.

298 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:14:16am

re: #278 debutaunt

How about they are put on an island with a corrupt voting system and are never voted off?

OR have their passport seized and revoked, have them stripped of citizenship and have them kicked out of the country permanently.

Where would they go? - Let them worry about it.

299 arf  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:15:00am

Same here, I can't figure out this "blacks against Obama" thing?

What's their agenda? I'm no particular fan of Obama to put it mildly. Are these "blacks against Obama" people who happen to be black and also happen to oppose Obama for the usual reasons?

As in, black Republicans? Or is there some specific racial thing going on that has escaped my attention?

300 Pyrocles  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:15:17am

Wow, great post, buzz. Looking back on my college education, I can't help but notice the truth of what you say. Most of my professors tried to instill very bleak outlooks on America, and life in general. The main theme of college (at least in my Liberal Arts courses) was "you will never succeed; yours is the first generation in American history whose standard of living will be below your parents; nothing is worth fighting for or even caring about". A lot of general negativity.

I indeed read Catcher in the Rye in college, and was always surprised by the negative portrayal of capitalism and general "work" by professors. I felt conflicted, as I was in college to ultimately get a job after graduation. All the while, professors preached against the concepts of "work" and "success", and instilled in you the fact that you will never succeed. I almost forgot why I went to college in the first place...

Should have majored in Engineering...

re: #199 buzzsawmonkey

301 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:15:24am

re: #292 Eowyn2

what is the nutmeg state?

Connecticut.

302 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:15:49am

re: #299 arf

Same here, I can't figure out this "blacks against Obama" thing?

What's their agenda? I'm no particular fan of Obama to put it mildly. Are these "blacks against Obama" people who happen to be black and also happen to oppose Obama for the usual reasons?

As in, black Republicans? Or is there some specific racial thing going on that has escaped my attention?

He's not liberal enough for them. Might not be authentic enough either.

303 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:16:11am

re: #297 Ford_Prefect

It is Conn-ecticut after all, and OUR crooks are superior to other crooks.

304 tokyobk  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:16:33am

re: #271 Perplexed

Well, one group of old white European males actually were productive. The other group of old white European males, slept around, hung out at the library, all while mooching off of their wife's family.

White liberalism is an illness of the bad faith variety, As you note, it still posits white people as the agents responsible for all things good and bad. You would never know from a liberal arts education that brown and black people are as capable for chosing good or evil. Its sad because, take the Quakers, their moral positions in the 18th and 18th century were admirable, such as opposition to slavery, but they went on a spiral where now they see it as good to be nice to the worlds living Haman. They cannot concieve him as repsonsible for his choice to be a total a-hole.

305 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:16:47am

re: #302 Perplexed

Might not be authentic enough either.

I think he's got it.

306 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:16:50am

re: #287 MandyManners

No. He was chasing the evil mouse. DEATH TO MICE.

Don't you know that mice are actually the most intelligent life form on the planet? They are actually pan dimensional beings that have been running experiments on us for centuries.

307 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:16:53am

re: #295 CIA Reject

why nutmeg?

why not something a bit grander?

nutmeg?

unless you are trying to incorporate at the lowest possible tax rate.

308 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:17:10am

Comment dit-on "duct tape" en francais?

Large Hadron Supercollider breaks down again

309 FrogMarch  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:17:44am

re: #268 Cap'n DOC

Obama has a plan.

A plan, my Ass.

If he's channeling that Ass he's got a MagicHat - and not much more than that.

It's all lies!


/channeling desperation

310 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:17:50am

Hello Lizards
Drive-by post, I am away from home, not quite reliable wifi

Today's TRIVIA double quiz

How much does the US mint spend to make each penny?
Each nickel?

311 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:17:58am

re: #308 Occasional Reader

Duct tape. It's the same everywhere.

312 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:18:00am

re: #307 Eowyn2

aka the Constitution State. I think it was the first to sign or some such.

313 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:18:00am

re: #303 vagabond trader

It is Conn-ecticut after all, and OUR crooks are superior to other crooks.

Apparently not. Superior crooks don't get caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

314 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:18:25am

re: #292 Eowyn2

what is the nutmeg state?

Connecticut.alifornia..
I wanted to resist.. but I am weak.
/

315 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:18:35am

re: #299 arf

Same here, I can't figure out this "blacks against Obama" thing?

What's their agenda? I'm no particular fan of Obama to put it mildly. Are these "blacks against Obama" people who happen to be black and also happen to oppose Obama for the usual reasons?

As in, black Republicans? Or is there some specific racial thing going on that has escaped my attention?

From what I have read and heard, it's that Obama isn't "black enough" for them 9i.e. not speaking out loudly and often enough about 'black" issues) They are NOT to be confused with conservative blacks (the likes of Micheal Steele, Herman Cane ets)

316 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:18:45am

re: #294 jcm

Sorry. I did.

317 Ps2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:19:06am

Obama's mentor a Communist and ...a Pedophile?

[Link: massdiscussion.blogspot.com...]

318 FrogMarch  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:19:42am

btw - I was listening to someone on the radio explain that Obama's tax relief for 95% of us is really tantamount to welfare checks.

319 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:19:47am

re: #299 arf

Same here, I can't figure out this "blacks against Obama" thing?

What's their agenda? I'm no particular fan of Obama to put it mildly. Are these "blacks against Obama" people who happen to be black and also happen to oppose Obama for the usual reasons?

As in, black Republicans? Or is there some specific racial thing going on that has escaped my attention?

I was able to make out one sign that said something about gay marriage, one sign had something about the kkk on it. I know a black man in VA who is definately anti-obambi.

Obama reminds me of the black man who went with the carpet bagger to forclose on the homes of the southerners for not paying their back taxes in "The Undefeated."

320 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:19:47am

re: #317 Ps2

Obama's mentor a Communist and ...a Pedophile?

[Link: massdiscussion.blogspot.com...]

I'm sure theres room under the bus for one more

321 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:20:03am

re: #313 Ford_Prefect

Just imitating a common affectation of superiority by most everyone residing in this overrated place.

322 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:20:04am

re: #300 Pyrocles

Wow, great post, buzz. Looking back on my college education, I can't help but notice the truth of what you say. Most of my professors tried to instill very bleak outlooks on America, and life in general. The main theme of college (at least in my Liberal Arts courses) was "you will never succeed; yours is the first generation in American history whose standard of living will be below your parents; nothing is worth fighting for or even caring about". A lot of general negativity.

I indeed read Catcher in the Rye in college, and was always surprised by the negative portrayal of capitalism and general "work" by professors. I felt conflicted, as I was in college to ultimately get a job after graduation. All the while, professors preached against the concepts of "work" and "success", and instilled in you the fact that you will never succeed. I almost forgot why I went to college in the first place...

Should have majored in Engineering...

I was in Engineering school in college in the 70's and the outlook there was a lot more positive than what you describe- our professors told us that we would be the ones to make the world a better place for everyone.

There was just one hitch.

They were sure Jimmy Carter would be a great president because, after all, "he's an engineer!"

DOH!

323 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:20:18am

re: #310 rawmuse

Hello Lizards
Drive-by post, I am away from home, not quite reliable wifi

Today's TRIVIA double quiz

How much does the US mint spend to make each penny?
Each nickel?


8 cents per nickel
3 cents per penny

324 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:20:29am

re: #300 Pyrocles

Wow, great post, buzz. Looking back on my college education, I can'thelp but notice the truth of what you say. Most of my professors triedto instill very bleak outlooks on America, and life in general. Themain theme of college (at least in my Liberal Arts courses) was "youwill never succeed; yours is the first generation in American historywhose standard of living will be below your parents; nothing is worthfighting for or even caring about". A lot of general negativity.

I indeed read Catcher in the Ryein college, and was always surprised by the negative portrayal ofcapitalism and general "work" by professors. I felt conflicted, as Iwas in college to ultimately get a job after graduation. All the while,professors preached against the concepts of "work" and "success", andinstilled in you the fact that you will never succeed. I almost forgotwhy I went to college in the first place...

Should have majored in Engineering...


* * * *
Engineers love life and love America. Remember Liviu Librescu the Romanian engineering professor who barricaded his classroom against the Virginia Tech murderer, sacrificing himself to save his students' lives while they jumped out the window. Librescu was a holocaust survivor.

Another engineering professor who died to save his students at Va Tech was from India.

Bless those who come to America & defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

325 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:20:39am

re: #304 tokyobk

Nixon was a Quaker. Wonder what they thought of that?

326 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:20:51am

re: #307 Eowyn2

why nutmeg?

why not something a bit grander?

nutmeg?

unless you are trying to incorporate at the lowest possible tax rate.

It is actually not a very nice nickname, but people here don't seem to know where it comes from so they use it with pride. It references a time when traders would put nutmeg into barrells of tea (I think it was tea) in order to make a larger profit. Not a very ethical thing to do.

327 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:20:53am

re: #317 Ps2

Yup.

328 jill e  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:21:01am

From Instapundit:

Did Eliot Spitzer contribute to AIG's demise?

He certainly hurt Marsh & McLennan. And the industry in general was horribly affected by Spitzer on his path to the governorship.

Have you listened to the names of the companies being affected? AIG, Morgan Stanley, Lehman Brothers...many of their employees survived 9/11 only to have their lives destroyed by the greed...

329 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:21:08am

re: #323 Eowyn2

8 cents per nickel
3 cents per penny

How do they do it? Volume!

330 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:21:53am

re: #317 Ps2

Obama's mentor a Communist and ...a Pedophile?

[Link: massdiscussion.blogspot.com...]

Dreams of my father?

331 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:22:02am

The Obama-Iraq thing is not going away.

Good!

332 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:22:05am

re: #307 Eowyn2

why nutmeg?

why not something a bit grander?

nutmeg?

unless you are trying to incorporate at the lowest possible tax rate.

Beats me, I'm a New Yorker. I just worked in CT for a couple of years and the fact that it's "the Nutmeg State" is all I remember about the culture there...

333 Tamron  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:22:15am

re: #18 buzzsawmonkey

Community: Life is good.
Community organizer: Life stinks! You're miserable!
Community: No, we're fine.
Community organizer: No, you're wrong. You have grievances, like [grievance], [grievance], and [grievance].
Community: By golly, we never thought of it that way before. You're right! BIG [GRIEVANCE] IS RIPPING US OFF! Boy, are we pissed!
Community organizer: Well, you know, you could do something about that...
Community: We could? What? Tell us! Boy, are we pissed!
Community organizer: Well, you know, [grievance] is all [target]'s fault. You could attack [target].
Community: Yes! Yes! Down with [target]!
Community organizer: Heh.

JUST LIKE THE LYING KING...
.

334 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:22:16am

re: #323 Eowyn2

8 cents per nickel
3 cents per penny

You appear to be our WINNAH for today.
Different sources will give you differing amounts, but you rounded yours up to the nearest penny, and since we have no fractions of pennies, I think you got it.

335 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:22:36am

re: #321 vagabond trader

Just imitating a common affectation of superiority by most everyone residing in this overrated place.

Now there I would have to disagree with you. I love CT, it is just all the lefties that I don't like.

336 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:22:40am

re: #310 rawmuse

Hello Lizards
Drive-by post, I am away from home, not quite reliable wifi

Today's TRIVIA double quiz

How much does the US mint spend to make each penny?
Each nickel?

* * * *
If coins are used millions of times while in circulation, does it matter if they cost more than their face value to manufacture?

337 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:23:02am

re: #326 Ford_Prefect

Prolly Dodd's ancestors.

338 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:23:14am

re: #322 CIA Reject

I was in Engineering school in college in the 70's and the outlook there was a lot more positive than what you describe- our professors told us that we would be the ones to make the world a better place for everyone.

There was just one hitch.

They were sure Jimmy Carter would be a great president because, after all, "he's an engineer!"

DOH!


I went to a science school at the end of the 80s. Everyone there watched the smart bombs fall on Iraq and wanted to switch majors to computer science or math.

339 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:23:44am

re: #334 rawmuse

You appear to be our WINNAH for today.
Different sources will give you differing amounts, but you rounded yours up to the nearest penny, and since we have no fractions of pennies, I think you got it.

Inflation at work.

340 katemaclaren  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:23:47am

re: #11 MandyManners


Me too, WHAT?

341 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:23:56am

re: #336 alegrias

The problem seems to be that many of us do not circulate coins anymore, we put them in a jar on our dresser.

342 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:24:17am

re: #332 CIA Reject

Beats me, I'm a New Yorker. I just worked in CT for a couple of years and the fact that it's "the Nutmeg State" is all I remember about the culture there...

I think that ground nutmeg was put into hot, high alcohol content drinks.

343 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:24:25am

re: #312 vagabond trader

aka the Constitution State. I think it was the first to sign or some such.

That would be Delaware.

344 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:24:48am

re: #307 Eowyn2

why nutmeg?

why not something a bit grander?

nutmeg?

unless you are trying to incorporate at the lowest possible tax rate.

Well, they at 1st wanted
CONNECTICUT ,, THE STATE THATS REALLY REALLY SMALL COMPARED TO MANY OTHERS BUT A LOT OF COOL THINGS HAVE HAPPENED HERE AND WE'RE CLOSE TO NEW YORK CITY SO YOU CAN GO THERE, CATCH A SHOW, AND BE HOME IN THE SAFE SUBURBS

but that didn't fit on the license plates

345 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:24:56am

Help me understand this:

Bradley effect: A belief by liberals whereby racists admit to pollsters they are voting for a black man.

346 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:25:03am

re: #337 vagabond trader

Prolly Dodd's ancestors.

I don't know. Have you seen Dodd lately? It might have been him doing it.

347 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:25:10am
348 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:25:28am

re: #326 Ford_Prefect

It is actually not a very nice nickname, but people here don't seem to know where it comes from so they use it with pride. It references a time when traders would put nutmeg into barrells of tea (I think it was tea) in order to make a larger profit. Not a very ethical thing to do.

helped pay the Mad King's taxes.

Connecticut: We're bigger than Rhode Island and Delaware

349 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:25:29am

re: #310 rawmuse

Hello Lizards
Drive-by post, I am away from home, not quite reliable wifi

Today's TRIVIA double quiz

How much does the US mint spend to make each penny?
Each nickel?

1.7 ¢ to manufacture a penny,
10 ¢ for a nicke.

350 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:26:35am

re: #342 Perplexed

I think that ground nutmeg was put into hot, high alcohol content drinks.

did those drinks have Captain Morgan in them?
Avast, gives me my rum matey, or I'll throw the nutmegs at ye.

351 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:26:35am

re: #345 faraway

Help me understand this:

Bradley effect: A belief by liberals whereby racists admit to pollsters they are voting for a black man.

No....the Bradley effect is the idea that people do not always answer honestly when asked if they will vote for a black/minority......overstating the vote for the black/minority.

352 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:27:00am

re: #341 rawmuse

Is that what we're supposed to do with it?

/I always look under the couch cushions. CHANGE!

353 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:27:05am

re: #332 CIA Reject

Beats
me, I'm a New Yorker. I just worked in CT for a couple of years and the
fact that it's "the Nutmeg State" is all I remember about the culture
there...

What the hell is a Buckeye & why do Ohio folks call themselves that?

354 DaddyG  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:27:19am

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

Can one crack a rib from coughing?

A bruised muscle in the chest can feel like that too. (Take it from a guy who does this at least once per winter) Ugh!

355 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:27:47am

re: #335 Ford_Prefect

CT is losing population like a sieve.Not business friendly, taxes too high, waaaay too much government, and populated by snootier than thous. Other than that, I have a nice modest place in the country which will be unaffordable once the old man retires.

356 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:27:47am

re: #330 Racer X

Oh, no. Did you read that excerpt?

Gah! Argh! Spit!

I feel sick and filthy having read that.

357 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:27:54am

re: #343 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That would be Delaware.

This is where the nick comes from.

Connecticut was designated the “Constitution State” by the General Assembly in 1959. As early as the 19th Century, John Fiske, a popular historian from Connecticut, made the claim that the Fundamental Orders of 1638/39 were the first written constitution in history. Some contemporary historians dispute Fiske's analysis. However, Simeon E. Baldwin, a former Chief Justice of the Connecticut Supreme Court, defended Fiske's view of the Fundamental Orders in Osborn's History of Connecticut in Monographic Form by stating that "never had a company of men deliberately met to frame a social compact for immediate use, constituting a new and independent commonwealth, with definite officers, executive and legislative, and prescribed rules and modes of government, until the first planters of Connecticut came together for their great work on January 14th, 1638-9." The text of the Fundamental Orders is reproduced in Section I of this volume and the original is on permanent display at the Museum of Connecticut History at the State Library. Connecticut has also been known as the “Nutmeg State”, the “Provisions State”, and the “Land of Steady Habits”.

358 Alouette  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:27:56am

re: #324 alegrias

* * * *
Engineers love life and love America. Remember Liviu Librescu the Romanian engineering professor who barricaded his classroom against the Virginia Tech murderer, sacrificing himself to save his students' lives while they jumped out the window. Librescu was a holocaust survivor.

Another engineering professor who died to save his students at Va Tech was from India.

Bless those who come to America & defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

I graduated with a B.S. in Math from an engineering school. No liberal moonbat professors, no campus shenanigans, just students attending class, taking notes, doing homework, studying and taking exams.

Military recruiters with full access to students and long lines at the recruiting booths.

359 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:28:00am

re: #354 DaddyG

A bruised muscle in the chest can feel like that too. (Take it from a guy who does this at least once per winter) Ugh!

I usually take the family skiing!

360 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:28:01am

re: #353 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It's a relative of the chestnut, I believe. Anyroad, the nut sure looks like one.

361 alegrias  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:28:04am

re: #322 CIA Reject

Iwas in Engineering school in college in the 70's and the outlook therewas a lot more positive than what you describe- our professors told usthat we would be the ones to make the world a better place foreveryone.

There was just one hitch.

They were sure Jimmy Carter would be a great president because, after all, "he's an engineer!"

DOH!

* * *
Carter was a micro-managing engineer who did not understand LEADERSHIP means letting better engineers tinker under the hood, while you focus on the big picture.

Reagan focused on the larger picture, encouraged his "engineers" and citizens to do for themselves, and to have confidence in their abilities to face & overcome challenges.

LEADERS inspire others to do their best and see WIN-WIN opportunities, not to become depressed and see the glass half empty, win-lose at other's expense.

Expanding the Universe is what real Leaders do.

362 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:28:08am

re: #347 buzzsawmonkey

Too funny.

363 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:28:13am

re: #349 jcm

1.7 ¢ to manufacture a penny,
10 ¢ for a nicke.

The quote from the US Mint (from several months ago) was
2.7 cents for each penny
7.5 cents for each nickel.

I awarded the win to Eowyn, allowing for the round up to the nearest penny.

364 Dianna  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:28:37am

re: #341 rawmuse

The problem seems to be that many of us do not circulate coins anymore, we put them in a jar on our dresser.

I have a coin purse that is referred to as "the cosh."

365 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:28:51am

re: #334 rawmuse

You appear to be our WINNAH for today.
Different sources will give you differing amounts, but you rounded yours up to the nearest penny, and since we have no fractions of pennies, I think you got it.

I have a half-cent from a very long time ago. About the size of a quarter.

what do I get? do you have any pipe weed?

366 Daisy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:28:59am

re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Be courteous, professional and prepared to kill everyone you meet at a moment's notice.

And never underestimate the power of the 'weak'.

367 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:29:03am

re: #308 Occasional Reader

Comment dit-on "duct tape" en francais?

Large Hadron Supercollider breaks down again

Aww ...
So much work - and then there's just a little screw loose, somewhere ...

(On the other hand, isn't it an amazing coincidence that the financial world went into turmoil when the LHC worked, after a fashion - and now, that its down, we see the DOW up and all? I mean - it all ahngs together, don't it, sacks of rice falling voer in china, butterflies and tornadoes ... we're all doooomed, I tellya, dooooomed!)

368 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:29:14am

re: #346 Ford_Prefect

He looks like an old scowling lesbian, imho.

369 PAgirlinNC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:29:29am

Not sure if this one was ever posted. It has some old footage of Obama that I had not seen before...
Obama

370 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:29:34am

re: #261 MandyManners

Or, to trip over a bundle of feline fur and fall down the stairs.

371 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:29:58am

re: #365 Eowyn2

I have a half-cent from a very long time ago. About the size of a quarter.

what do I get? do you have any pipe weed?

To quote my friend David Jackson "No, No, No, I don't smoke it no more"

372 doppelganglander  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:30:01am

re: #273 JacksonTn

Do you think they are members of Uhuru? I think they were protesting at one of his rallys once:

[Link: www.uhurunews.com...]

I had never heard of this outfit so I clicked your link and was treated to these headlines:

New York courts say killer cops justified in 50-bullet murder of Sean Bell!
Mistrial declared again in frame-up of Liberty City 7!
African dies in Belgian immigration officials' brutal custody!

That's some mighty fine objective journalism there, Lou.

373 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:30:04am

re: #345 faraway

Help me understand this:

Bradley effect: A belief by liberals whereby racists admit to pollsters they are voting for a black man.

Something like that. The liberal "logic" is that all good white people want a black President ('cause we owe it to them, or something), therefore all good white people will tell pollsters they'll vote for the black man, 'cause they don't want to look like racists. But of course, since they are white people, they can't help but be deeply racist and xenophibic to the core, so of course they'll betray the black man and vote another old racist Christian heterosexual white man into office.

Yes, that really is the way your liberal friends think. Makes you want to take a shower, doesn't it?

374 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:30:05am

re: #370 opnion


Shouldn't have posted

375 Racer X  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:30:24am

re: #368 vagabond trader

He looks like an old scowling lesbian, imho.

Sandra Bernhardt? I thought that was a woman.

376 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:30:46am

re: #365 Eowyn2

Now, now, now... You be sailin' no SmokeyThreeMasters through this channel, Matey.

377 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:30:56am

re: #352 Cap'n DOC

Is that what we're supposed to do with it?

/I always look under the couch cushions. CHANGE!

Hope Floats.. Flush twice
/Bumpersticker material?

378 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:31:01am

re: #355 vagabond trader

CT is losing population like a sieve.Not business friendly, taxes too high, waaaay too much government, and populated by snootier than thous. Other than that, I have a nice modest place in the country which will be unaffordable once the old man retires.

But you have to balance that with all the free nutmeg.

379 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:31:07am

re: #351 eschew_obfuscation

No....the Bradley effect is the idea that people do not always answer honestly when asked if they will vote for a black/minority......overstating the vote for the black/minority.

So, they must be racist. And they admit they are voting for a black man.

This defies any logic.

All polls skew toward Dems.

I'm just saying that I believe the "Bradley effect" is a figment of liberals' twisted imaginations.

380 Spider Mensch  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:31:07am

re: #331 unreconstructed rebel

The Obama-Iraq thing is not going away.

Obama, just makes things up as he goes along, doesn't he? it would be funny if it wasn't that he's running for POTUS. I was for a time in the mind frame of "I diagree with everything he says and stands for, but even if elected how bad could he f*ck things up? we kind of survived carter, thanks to Reagan" but now I really and truly believe obama is dangerous to every American and to the country itself if, elected.

381 Alouette  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:31:08am

re: #375 Racer X

Sandra Bernhardt? I thought that was a woman.

I think she has stolen the CBF title from Michelle.

382 Daisy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:31:20am

re: #347 buzzsawmonkey

Joe Biden is always putting in plugs for Delaware.

Oh. So that's why he's putting in all those hair plugs. He's patriotic. And here I thought it was because he was a giving himself the complete ass look. Wait. What? Plugs. Oh those plugs. :)

383 Irene NYC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:31:24am

re: #337 vagabond trader

Prolly Dodd's ancestors.


Dodd's dad, a very influential U.S. Senator, was censured for using campaign funds for personal expenses. It was a huge scandal at the time. HUGH. People just couldn't believe he did it because, back then, it was an unthinkable breach of the public trust.

That was then, and this is now. Go look at his son, Chris.

I could puke.

384 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:31:25am

re: #363 rawmuse

The quote from the US Mint (from several months ago) was
2.7 cents for each penny
7.5 cents for each nickel.

I awarded the win to Eowyn, allowing for the round up to the nearest penny.

*snap*

I KEEELLLLL my source!
/ ;-P

385 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:32:05am

re: #379 faraway

So, they must be racist. And they admit they are voting for a black man.

This defies any logic.

All polls skew toward Dems.

I'm just saying that I believe the "Bradley effect" is a figment of liberals' twisted imaginations.

They don't have to be racist.....just not want to appear racist.

386 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:32:07am

re: #377 HoosierHoops

No. Flush Early - Flush Often.

387 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:32:08am
388 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:32:17am

re: #357 Ford_Prefect

The land of oppressive humidity.

389 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:32:25am

re: #365 Eowyn2

I have a half-cent from a very long time ago. About the size of a quarter.

what do I get? do you have any pipe weed?

Might be worth something:

390 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:33:01am

the "Bradley effect" is and it is a figment of liberals' twisted imaginations.

391 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:33:03am

re: #378 debutaunt

lol, lots of free acorns in the yard too. One thing this bloody state cannot tax or control is my sweet well water. Everytime I turn that faucet on I get a thrill up my leg.

392 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:33:26am

re: #380 Spider Mensch

The prospect of him president with the current criminals in Congress scares the shit out of me.

393 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:33:28am

re: #355 vagabond trader

CT is losing population like a sieve. (means more room for the rest of us)
Not business friendly, taxes too high, waaaay too much government, (agree with you there)
and populated by snootier than thous. (mostly in the southwest corner and they are more New Yorkers than they are Connecticutonians)
Other than that, I have a nice modest place in the country which will be unaffordable once the old man retires. (not the way the housing prices are going..and yes I know that is a bad thing)

394 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:33:46am

oops - scratch 390

395 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:33:53am

re: #391 vagabond trader

/Channeling somebody, I'm just not sure who it is...

396 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:33:54am
397 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:34:19am

re: #323 Eowyn2

8 cents per nickel
3 cents per penny

REALLY! You know what this means? It means that what Grouch Marx predicted in "Animal Crackers" has finally come true!

"Now, why not give the seven-cent nickel a chance? If that works out, next year we could have an eight-cent nickel. Think what that would mean. You could go to a newsstand, buy a three-cent newspaper and get the same nickel back again. One nickel carefully used would last a family a lifetime!"


And now we actually have an eight cent nickel!

A great day for America I tell ya'!

398 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:34:57am

re: #363 rawmuse

The quote from the US Mint (from several months ago) was
2.7 cents for each penny
7.5 cents for each nickel.

I awarded the win to Eowyn, allowing for the round up to the nearest penny.


I feel like I just won Jeopardy.

399 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:35:14am

re: #395 Cap'n DOC

why it must be Chrissy Matthews, the demoted asshole from msnbc who has a man crush on the Obama.

400 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:35:25am

re: #379 faraway

I'm just saying that I believe the "Bradley effect" is a figment of liberals' twisted imaginations.

No, it's real.

/just look at this year's Bonkey primaries in some states where it was polling close and ended with Hillary mopping the floor with Obama

401 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:35:41am

re: #388 debutaunt

The land of oppressive humidity.

You ever been to Florida in July?

402 Tarkus289  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:35:56am

Never underestimate the curtain...

403 JacksonTn  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:36:02am

re: #372 doppelganglander

I had never heard of this outfit so I clicked your link and was treated to these headlines:

New York courts say killer cops justified in 50-bullet murder of Sean Bell!
Mistrial declared again in frame-up of Liberty City 7!
African dies in Belgian immigration officials' brutal custody!

That's some mighty fine objective journalism there, Lou.

Yes, they are a fine group those Uhurus. They are also brothers in arms with La Raza groups. Not that you will see them on the official La Raza website but sites of supporters of La Raza. The main thing they have in common - down with the white man and reparations.

I am sure it was the Uhuru people that were protesting at his rally once before.

404 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:36:29am

re: #342 Perplexed

I think that ground nutmeg was put into hot, high alcohol content drinks.

That's probably why I don't remember any more about the local culture there...

405 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:36:40am

re: #398 Eowyn2

I feel like I just won Jeopardy.

On Sunday night I will list the names of all of this weeks WINNAHs!

406 faraway  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:37:04am

re: #400 Killian Bundy

No, it's real.

/just look at this year's Bonkey primaries in some states where it was polling close and ended with Hillary mopping the floor with Obama

Or, does that prove that polls are done in big cities (where Obama supporters live)?

407 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:37:18am

re: #398 Eowyn2

Okay, now for the bonus question: How many One Dollar bills does the Mint print every year, and how many trees are destroyed each year to do it?

(yes, it's a double-trick question)

408 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:37:31am

re: #383 Irene NYC

Big time scandal when I was a kid. I think the old man was a judge or lawyer at the Nuremburg trials. Power sure do corrupt.

409 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:38:02am

re: #199 buzzsawmonkey

You're bang on. That whole slacker resentment syndrome is nothing more than the inner child's anger at the slowly dawning realization that childhood is over. There are several strategies to put off accepting that fact. One is to stay in school, the eternal student working on his degree. The smart ones manage to parley that into a career in academia. The other method is to smoke lots of dope hoping to keep in a childish dreamlike state. The angrier ones join the ranks of the professional protesters, the trustafarians, constantly venting their anger at the "man". The vain among them become movie stars & celebrities. The ambitious ones go into politics.

410 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:38:05am
411 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:38:11am

re: #407 Lizard by the Bay

Okay,
now for the bonus question: How many One Dollar bills does the Mint
print every year, and how many trees are destroyed each year to do it?

(yes, it's a double-trick question)

None & None.

412 GGMac  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:38:27am

re: #95 doppelganglander

That's lovely. I added it to my favorites - first time I ever used that feature.


Written on fancy paper many, many years ago, it became a treasured 20th anniversary card, which hubby still has in a drawer...

:)

413 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:38:28am

re: #391 vagabond trader

lol, lots of free acorns in the yard too. One thing this bloody state cannot tax or control is my sweet well water. Everytime I turn that faucet on I get a thrill up my leg.

I used to live there - the well water was wonderful.

414 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:38:38am

Lizards, I am calling it a day.

Going to see if I can beat the I-66 traffic back into the hinterlands.

415 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:38:56am

re: #399 vagabond trader

Ya see, I don't watch TV, but I do spend my time here getting all the news I need. I remember somebody talking about tingling....

416 opnion  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:39:04am

Before Obama was so rudely interupted did he lay out his polisah for the economah?

417 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:39:11am

The monkeys are on it today! Yes, "paper" money is made of cotton, and no, the Mint doesn't print any of it.

418 WrathofG-d  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:39:18am
419 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:39:20am

re: #383 Irene NYC

Dodd's dad, a very influential U.S. Senator, was censured for using campaign funds for personal expenses. It was a huge scandal at the time. HUGH. People just couldn't believe he did it because, back then, it was an unthinkable breach of the public trust.

That was then, and this is now. Go look at his son, Chris.

I could puke.

Yeah, the nutmeg didn't fall far from that tree.

420 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:39:47am

re: #406 faraway

Or, does that prove that polls are done in big cities (where Obama supporters live)?

No.

/reputable pollsters are careful with their sampling

421 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:40:08am

re: #401 Ford_Prefect

You ever been to Florida in July?

No, it was May - I'm not a complete fool.

422 yma o hyd  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:40:10am

re: #413 debutaunt

I used to live there - the well water was wonderful.

Gah - now I'm thirsty - getting meself a glass of water right now!

423 Eowyn2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:40:22am

re: #397 CIA Reject

I coulda used one of them a long time ago.

424 CIA Reject  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:41:18am

re: #338 Eowyn2

I went to a science school at the end of the 80s. Everyone there watched the smart bombs fall on Iraq and wanted to switch majors to computer science or math.

Like in 1957 when that MIT student ran through the dorm yelling "the Russians are in space we've all got jobs!" when the news broke about Sputnik.

425 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:41:22am

re: #405 rawmuse

On Sunday night I will list the names of all of this weeks WINNAHs!

I protest! The answer was not in the form of a question!

426 sattv4u2  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:41:40am

re: #401 Ford_Prefect

You ever been to Florida in July?

D.C. in August?
Atlanta May-October !

427 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:41:46am

re: #404 CIA Reject

Hot toddies and or syllabub. Still delicious on a cold new England eve.

428 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:42:19am

I WON'T VOTE FOR A SOCIALIST!

/even if he is half Caucasian

429 debutaunt  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:43:06am

re: #410 buzzsawmonkey

The paper that American currency is printed on is made with cotton fibers.

I know - I know! Cotton trees!

430 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:43:47am

re: #427 vagabond trader

Hey, did you get to the Big 'E' this year? If you go check out the spice dealer in the CT building. Good stuff. The Mrs. and I love them.

431 Syrah  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:43:47am

re: #428 Killian Bundy

Socialism, whether it involves the wearing of a red shirt, black shirt or a brown shirt has no loyalty to color.

432 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:44:01am
433 HoosierHoops  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:44:27am

re: #405 rawmuse

On Sunday night I will list the names of all of this weeks WINNAHs!


What no sports questions?
What was the name of the pitcher that struck out in a row the 3 greatest hitters of thier era during an all-star game..Ruth, Gehrig and Foxx?
A. Carl Hubbell
/McCain was there
..just teasing..

434 Mardukhai  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:44:38am

Aye, it be International Talk Like a Pirate Day!

Arrrrrrrr.

Even Google be observin'!

435 jcm  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:45:16am

re: #428 Killian Bundy

I WON'T VOTE FOR A SOCIALIST!

/even if he is half Caucasian

Socialistist!

436 vagabond trader  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:45:17am

re: #430 Ford_Prefect

Haven't been in years.The Woodstock Fair is much closer and a bit more traditional. Yum, spice, exotic spice.

437 rawmuse  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:45:33am

re: #433 HoosierHoops

I am not done yet.

There will be 2 more TRIVAI quizzes.

I chose the topic of money for today because it is on everyone's mind.

438 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:45:48am
439 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Sep 19, 2008 11:45:59am

re: #429 debutaunt

I know - I know! CottonWOOD trees!

You type too fast, don't finish words.

440