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Saturday Afternoon Open

Open | Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:51:52 pm PDT

An open thread for a sunny Saturday. I’m tweaking the spinoff links design, so if something looks or acts weird in that department, please bear with Stinky and me.

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1 Balian1193[deleted]  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:52:45pm
2 kynna  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:54:50pm

If something 'acts weird' I always blame myself. I'm usually right.

3 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:55:31pm

Careful number one. That can get your post deleted and you banned.

4 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:55:48pm

re: #1 Balian1193

uno?

Naughty naughty!

::shakes finger at Balian::

5 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:56:08pm

re: #1 Balian1193

Ummmmmmm....

6 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:56:31pm

re: #1 Balian1193

uno?

Please read the rules at the top of this page. Charles doesn't like users posting "Uno" or "one" or "first" or other types of identifiers indicating that you have managed to post the first entry in a thread.

Please refrain from this.

7 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:56:54pm

re: #1 Balian1193

Posts that contain phone numbers, addresses, or other personal information will also be deleted, as will posts that consist only of a variation on the word, "First!"

8 godfrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:57:11pm

Charcoal chimneys sure work well.

9 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:57:19pm

Walter, you're amongst the living. Was a bit worried after Thursday night.

10 godfrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:57:41pm

dieci!

11 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:57:43pm

re: #6 Walter L. Newton

How's it hanging?

12 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:57:52pm

re: #5 MandyManners

Ummmmmmm....

Hi Mandy, that was a mild response from you. Are you not feeling well? :)

13 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:58:00pm

re: #1 Balian1193

uno?

Goodbye........................

14 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:58:30pm

re: #12 Walter L. Newton

Hi Mandy, that was a mild response from you. Are you not feeling well? :)

Finer than a frog's hair, split three way.

15 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:58:32pm

Here!

16 Arkay  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:58:38pm

Okay, howzaout this for a subject?

I have a well placd GOP friend on Capiol Hill who informed me yesterday that "The election is over. Obama is in." Why? "The trillion dollar bailout and the meltdown. The left will blame Bush and the right will hate the bailout."

That's the short version. Whaddayaall think?

17 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:59:16pm

re: #16 Arkay

Okay, howzaout this for a subject?

I have a well placd GOP friend on Capiol Hill who informed me yesterday that "The election is over. Obama is in." Why? "The trillion dollar bailout and the meltdown. The left will blame Bush and the right will hate the bailout."

That's the short version. Whaddayaall think?

I think it's a load of bullshit.

18 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 1:59:55pm

re: #16 Arkay

Okay, howzaout this for a subject?

I have a well placd GOP friend on Capiol Hill who informed me yesterday that "The election is over. Obama is in." Why? "The trillion dollar bailout and the meltdown. The left will blame Bush and the right will hate the bailout."

That's the short version. Whaddayaall think?

Bullshit

19 Arkay  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:00:08pm

I think it's a load of bullshit.>

Oooookay. Why?

20 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:00:10pm

re: #11 MandyManners

How's it hanging?

You know, I love you folks. You leave me so wide open with your questions. And I know if I answer, Godfrey will just get annoyed. LOL.

To answer your question, it's still black and blue. I feel like I have some compitition with Scrotum Man going on here, he's got the biggest, I got the bluest.

21 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:00:22pm

re: #16 Arkay

Okay, howzaout this for a subject?

I have a well placd GOP friend on Capiol Hill who informed me yesterday that "The election is over. Obama is in." Why? "The trillion dollar bailout and the meltdown. The left will blame Bush and the right will hate the bailout."

That's the short version. Whaddayaall think?

Nope. We conservatives realize that the threat nObama brings with him is worse than anything we've seen since '76 with Caaaaater.

22 mama winger  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:00:31pm

re: #16 Arkay


The right might very well hate the bailout. That's why we need to send two reformers to Washington.

McCain / Palin '08

23 Rageman  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:01:38pm

Obama is using mysogeny(Clinton dis), race baiting("THOSE REPUBS will say "HE IS BLACK"), lies + fraud ( Limbaugh commercial) . Whata Chicago politician!

24 mama winger  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:01:51pm

And the right also knows damn well that it is the Democrats who have used Fannie and Freddie as their own personal slush fund.

Even more reason to vote

McCain / Palin '08

25 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:02:29pm

re: #23 Rageman

Obama is using mysogeny(Clinton dis), race baiting("THOSE REPUBS will say "HE IS BLACK"), lies + fraud ( Limbaugh commercial) . Whata Chicago politician!

His own party members (white 30%) won't vote for him because of race.

26 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:02:47pm

re: #9 Perplexed

Walter, you're amongst the living. Was a bit worried after Thursday night.

I'm here. And I'm going to be back at the theatre tonight working lights for our new show that opened last night.

It will still be a few weeks before I can do the more physical stuff (building sets, cleaning, lifting etc), but so far it appears to be going fine.

Barely no pain, but still a lot of brusing and a bit of swelling around the waist and crouch.

My first official follow up visit is this coming Wed.

27 godfrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:02:56pm

re: #20 Walter L. Newton

I hope you're feeling better, Walter. All it takes is a bit of time and some serious stonkin' drugs.

28 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:03:16pm

re: #16 Arkay

Okay, howzaout this for a subject?

I have a well placd GOP friend on Capiol Hill who informed me yesterday that "The election is over. Obama is in." Why? "The trillion dollar bailout and the meltdown. The left will blame Bush and the right will hate the bailout."

That's the short version. Whaddayaall think?

It might be true if Bush were running for re-election, but he ain't.

29 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:03:41pm

Not having attended a school with a big college football program, I kinda adopted Notre Dame as my college football team ( I know not terribly original ). Well I am starting to sour on Charlie Weiss. And dam he should lose some weight besides his job.

30 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:03:53pm

re: #19 Arkay

I think it's a load of bullshit.>

Oooookay. Why?

The American people aren't stupid.

31 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:04:02pm

Let's recap, Saeah Palin fired the Public Safety Commissioner for not firing a State Trooper and replaced him with a Public Safety Commissioner who didn't fire the State Trooper.

/everybody up to speed now?

32 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:04:07pm

re: #20 Walter L. Newton

You know, I love you folks. You leave me so wide open with your questions. And I know if I answer, Godfrey will just get annoyed. LOL.

To answer your question, it's still black and blue. I feel like I have some compitition with Scrotum Man going on here, he's got the biggest, I got the bluest.

Thank you for sharing!

33 godfrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:04:09pm

These head fakes from the Obama campaign are amusing.

It will still be a McCain landslide.

Nice try, sleepers.

34 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:04:18pm

re: #16 Arkay

Its not looking good at the moment, I'll grant ya that.

35 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:04:39pm

re: #27 godfrey

I hope you're feeling better, Walter. All it takes is a bit of time and some serious stonkin' drugs.

I am. Thanks. No real pain. Most of the pain meds have been being used in a sort of "recreational mode," hell, I paid for them.

36 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:04:54pm

re: #26 Walter L. Newton

I'm here. And I'm going to be back at the theatre tonight working lights for our new show that opened last night.

It will still be a few weeks before I can do the more physical stuff (building sets, cleaning, lifting etc), but so far it appears to be going fine.

Barely no pain, but still a lot of brusing and a bit of swelling around the waist and crouch.

My first official follow up visit is this coming Wed.

How's the show. Lost a blogger here around a year ago. Alan Kelly. Guy had some medical problems and one day he was gone. No updates, lived by himself, etc. A St Louis friend sent the police over and they found him dead. Not a good way to go.

37 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:05:01pm

re: #28 Spiny Norman

It might be true if Bush were running for re-election, but he ain't.

It might also be true if Bush hadn't tried to correct this in 2003 only to have the dems refuse to do so. So if its game over for anyone, its game over for the dems responsible for this mess...

38 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:05:15pm

re: #31 Killian Bundy

Let's recap, Saeah Palin fired the Public Safety Commissioner for not firing a State Trooper and replaced him with a Public Safety Commissioner who didn't fire the State Trooper.

/everybody up to speed now?

IMPEACH! ! !

/kos

39 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:05:33pm

re: #26 Walter L. Newton

I'd wear a kilt if I were you.

40 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:05:42pm

re: #37 doriangrey

It might also be true if Bush hadn't tried to correct this in 2003 only to have the dems refuse to do so. So if its game over for anyone, its game over for the dems responsible for this mess...

Yes, but we have to do a better job of getting that message out! And fast!

41 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:06:09pm

re: #25 Perplexed

His own party members (white 30%) won't vote for him because of race.


Then again, his own party members (black) will vote for him (95%) because of race.
;)

42 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:06:16pm

re: #39 MandyManners

Guys don't sit right for that.....

43 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:06:18pm

re: #29 Nevergiveup

Not having attended a school with a big college football program, I kinda adopted Notre Dame as my college football team ( I know not terribly original ). Well I am starting to sour on Charlie Weiss. And dam he should lose some weight besides his job.

I just checked on espn.com, and UT is letting those fucking Gators win.

44 opnion  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:06:34pm

re: #24 mama winger

Mama Winger, for you and all citizens of the Cubs Nation, it looks like you clinch the division today. Cubs are up 3 t 0 & if that doesn't work the Brewers are losing.

45 kcladderman  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:06:36pm

re: #16 Arkay

Okay, howzaout this for a subject?

I have a well placd GOP friend on Capiol Hill who informed me yesterday that "The election is over. Obama is in." Why? "The trillion dollar bailout and the meltdown. The left will blame Bush and the right will hate the bailout."

That's the short version. Whaddayaall think?


I don't think your friend is as well placed as he thinks if that is what he is saying.The left will blame the Bush administration no doubt but those of us on the right know that Bush is not running for reelection.

46 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:07:22pm

re: #36 Perplexed

*whack*

47 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:07:58pm

re: #41 Irene NYC

Then again, his own party members (black) will vote for him (95%) because of race.
;)

The blacks make up only around 25% of the total population. I suspect minority voters for nObama might be disappointed when he loses big.

48 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:08:00pm

re: #37 doriangrey

It might also be true if Bush hadn't tried to correct this in 2003 only to have the dems refuse to do so. So if its game over for anyone, its game over for the dems responsible for this mess...

Very little of that inconvenient truth will get past the Media Gatekeepers™, unfortunately. The Democrats responsible for setting up the scam in the first place will be protected. As always.

49 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:08:01pm

re: #43 MandyManners

I just checked on espn.com, and UT is letting those fucking Gators win.

Well were I come from 20-0 is letting someone win, but getting your ass kicked?

50 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:09:00pm

re: #44 opnion

Mama Winger, for you and all citizens of the Cubs Nation, it looks like you clinch the division today. Cubs are up 3 t 0 & if that doesn't work the Brewers are losing.

Yup, congats Mama. And good luck in the playoffs. Stay away from any goats also.

51 opnion  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:09:12pm

re: #29 Nevergiveup

Not having attended a school with a big college football program, I kinda adopted Notre Dame as my college football team ( I know not terribly original ). Well I am starting to sour on Charlie Weiss. And dam he should lose some weight besides his job.

I actually could have written that. Weiss had two secrets to success,
Tom Brady & Brady Quinn. I would like to see Skip Holtz get the job.
Go Irish!

52 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:09:16pm

re: #47 Perplexed

Yes, I know, I was just playing around. But the point still holds. Racism and identity politics is alive and well with the dems.
;)

53 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:09:18pm

re: #24 mama winger

And the right also knows damn well that it is the Democrats who have used Fannie and Freddie as their own personal slush fund. Even more reason to vote McCain / Palin '08

This whole thing really bothers me. I was reading up on the "deal" and it looks like the gov is willing to pay 700 billion to buy out the bad mortgage paper.

Yet, this in no way helps any mortgage holders who truely needs some help. This only bails out the lenders.

So, the lenders don't take a real negative hit but the borrowers who REALLY have taken a financial hit from the economy, job lost, out sourcing and so forth, they are still on the hook for every cent.

And a further burden have been placed on them in the form of taxes to pay for all this, which HAS to come from somewhere, which ususally means US.

Or am I missing something here?

54 kcladderman  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:09:53pm

re: #49 Nevergiveup

Tough to win when you turn it over everythime you get inside the 5

55 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:10:23pm

re: #39 MandyManners

I'd wear a kilt if I were you.

Whoa, sexy.

56 mama winger  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:10:51pm

re: #44 opnion

Mama Winger, for you and all citizens of the Cubs Nation, it looks like you clinch the division today. Cubs are up 3 t 0 & if that doesn't work the Brewers are losing.

I know I KNOW ! ! ! ! !

WOO - HOOOOOOOOOO!


what did I say way back in May - this is the YEAR!

I have to go watch some serious game now. If I don't come back it is because I have collapsed from sheer joy and amazement .....

57 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:10:59pm

re: #46 MandyManners

Well, when a person lives alone, has medical problems, then suddenly goes away (even briefly)....

58 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:11:26pm

re: #48 Spiny Norman

Very little of that inconvenient truth will get past the Media Gatekeepers™, unfortunately. The Democrats responsible for setting up the scam in the first place will be protected. As always.

I am getting the sense that the MSM is loosing its grip on who knows what and the internet is sending those Morlocks to the dust bin of history....

59 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:11:45pm

Mr Dt told me to read this and then I had nightmares - from the blog of a weapons expert: Perfect Storm from Hell

When the USSR was falling apart, and in the aftermath of the USSR breakup, Iran spend a lot of money to hire some of the best Soviet biological war experts. The advanced biowar weapons that Iran has developed gives Iran a Global Strategic Weapon of Mass Destruction that can unleash levels of death among the populations of the major neo-con nations (USA, UK, France, German, Italy, etc.) very similar to that from a global strategic nuclear strike. This means that Iran and her allies have a MAD with America, Canada, the United Kingdom, France, German, Italy, etc.

Most people think of biological warfare as anthrax and smallpox; they do not understand that there has been a major shift in technology. The difference between the old biowar (that most people think of) and advanced biowar (with its recombination DNA designer super killer viruses) is like the difference between an old Model T Ford and a 2008 Rolls Royce Phantom. Both are cars, or biological weapons, but there is a difference of several orders of magnitude.

Regardless of how a war against Iran breaks out, it is likely to very quickly escalate to the usage of WMD. There has been talk among USAF war planners of a 1,200 (some say 2,000 to 3,000 or more) target attack on Iran’s nuclear, industrial, military, political and religious infrastructure. If a foreign enemy were to bomb 1,200 or more targets in the United States what would be the response of the American government and it’s military? Actually the answer to this question is well known. The stated doctrine of the United States of America is to rain hundreds of hydrogen bombs (WMD) on the territory and people of such an aggressor; this has been our policy for approximately 60 years. Why do we presuppose that the Iranians would not do the same?

60 opnion  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:11:47pm

re: #52 Irene NYC

Yes, I know, I was just playing around. But the point still holds. Racism and identity politics is alive and well with the dems.
;)

Right, can you imagine a poll of Republicans, showing a significant segment reluctant to vote for Colin Powell, because of race?

61 opnion  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:12:19pm

re: #56 mama winger

I know I KNOW ! ! ! ! !

WOO - HOOOOOOOOOO!


what did I say way back in May - this is the YEAR!

I have to go watch some serious game now. If I don't come back it is because I have collapsed from sheer joy and amazement .....

Enjoy

62 ggt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:12:45pm

re: #16 Arkay

I think the bombing in Isamambad will counter-act that way of thinking. Especially if the public hears and believes the truth --that both Bush and McCain wanted to address the Fannie/Freddie issue years ago.

63 Shay4l  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:13:13pm

"I have a well placd GOP friend on Capiol Hill who informed me yesterday"

Jeez, give me a break! How phony can you get?

Sounds exactly like: I am a lifelong Republican, but for the first time in my life.... BS!

64 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:13:16pm

re: #49 Nevergiveup

*whack* *whack* *whack*

65 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:13:46pm

re: #58 doriangrey

I am getting the sense that the MSM is loosing its grip on who knows what and the internet is sending those Morlocks to the dust bin of history....

Local finance guy on radio today claimed that Robert Rubin - clinton guy, now Obama advisor, wrote in his book about the importance of keeping certain information "from the market" meaning keeping people in the dark. His idea.

66 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:14:50pm

re: #58 doriangrey

I am getting the sense that the MSM is loosing its grip on who knows what and the internet is sending those Morlocks to the dust bin of history....

Oh, it will eventually, but a majority (shrinking though it may be) of citizens still use the MSM as their only source of information.

67 wahabicorridor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:14:57pm

re: #16 Arkay

Okay, howzaout this for a subject?

I have a well placd GOP friend on Capiol Hill who informed me yesterday that "The election is over. Obama is in." Why? "The trillion dollar bailout and the meltdown. The left will blame Bush and the right will hate the bailout."

That's the short version. Whaddayaall think?

I have LOTS of 'well-placed' friends on the Hill. Hubby is a lobbyist.

Bullshit.

68 Shay4l  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:15:31pm

re: #47 Perplexed

The blacks make up only around 25% of the total population. I suspect minority voters for nObama might be disappointed when he loses big.


Cry enough for 25% of the population, but actually only 15%?

69 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:15:49pm

re: #16 Arkay

Okay, howzaout this for a subject?

I have a well placd GOP friend on Capiol Hill who informed me yesterday that "The election is over. Obama is in." Why? "The trillion dollar bailout and the meltdown. The left will blame Bush and the right will hate the bailout."

That's the short version. Whaddayaall think?

WTF? Don't We the People get to decide, or are the powers that be just going to decide all this sh*t for us? Tell your friend I said s/he can kiss my ass.

70 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:16:01pm

re: #36 Perplexed

How's the show. Lost a blogger here around a year ago. Alan Kelly. Guy had some medical problems and one day he was gone. No updates, lived by himself, etc. A St Louis friend sent the police over and they found him dead. Not a good way to go.

The acting fine, the quality of the production, fine, the subject matter, well, it's been done before, over and over.

It's called "Summertree" and it looks at Vietnam from the personal side of things, not the political side.

But, it was written in the 70's, it's got all the metaphors and hooks you would expect it to have to overly tug at your heart strings, I really consider it sophomoric (sp?) writing.

It's sort of like "Tuesdays with Morrie," with war as the subject. It's got the little kid (getting killed in various ways during the show), the motherly mom, the unfullfilled dad, the hippie girlfriend, all very surface, no depth, no nuance.

Our production, excellent, worth the two hours, the material, a 3 hanky show that the liberals will trip all over getting to see it.

71 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:16:43pm

Donald Rumsfeld made Condoleezza Rice cry in the White House

Known as the Steel Magnolia in her youth, Miss Rice has guided the US through the war on terror, looked tyrants in the eye and faced down terrorist threats during her nation's darkest hours.

But a new book reveals that she was not so steadfast in facing down her own more personal enemies within the Bush administration.

Instead, Miss Rice was so fazed by former Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld that she burst into tears at a meeting in the White House situation room.

/he's such a mean old man

72 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:16:43pm

re: #60 opnion

Right, can you imagine a poll of Republicans, showing a significant segment reluctant to vote for Colin Powell, because of race?


Goodness, everyone would be drawn and quartered pronto!
;)

73 opnion  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:17:18pm

re: #67 wahabicorridor

I have LOTS of 'well-placed' friends on the Hill. Hubby is a lobbyist.

Bullshit.


I have a friend on the RNC. They are confident.

74 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:17:18pm

Last update - 23:49 20/09/2008

Diplomats: No evidence Syria site bombed by IAF was nuclear reactor

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Must have been one hell of indoor beauty spa?

75 wahabicorridor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:17:20pm

re: #20 Walter L. Newton


Walter, what happened to you?

/get better soon!

76 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:17:33pm

re: #56 mama winger

I know I KNOW ! ! ! ! !

WOO - HOOOOOOOOOO!


what did I say way back in May - this is the YEAR!

I have to go watch some serious game now. If I don't come back it is because I have collapsed from sheer joy and amazement .....

Congrats, Mama, and this from a patriotic member of Red Sox Nation!

77 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:17:45pm

re: #59 DistantThunder

One of the issues with bio weapons is that you only want a 25-40% mortality rate. You want a near 95% infection rate so that the citizenry are bogged down with sickness. When you begin to exceed that mortality rate the infected places just get written off as lost. The Capt Trips of Stephan King are fantasy unless you're using a doomsday weapon that kills both you and your enemy.

78 winston06  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:17:56pm

good afternoon guys

79 once and future angeleno  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:18:18pm

Re seatbelts on trains

Been meaning to ask this ... why are there no seatbelts on trains (thinking of recent terrible event in Simi Valley)?

For years there was scoffing at the idea that school busses needed to be safer inside, but I now see busses with highback seats, padded better than the steel rails that went across the back of seats (right at tooth level) when I was a kid. Seatbelts? I don't know if they've gone that far.

A year or so ago there was a bad crash in Atlanta of a leased bus carrying a college team, where the bus flipped over the railing and landed below -- I recall comments then that there would likely not have been such a severe list of injured and dead if there had been ... seatbelts.

The commentary on the Simi Valley crash was that people were flying unhindered through the air at 80 mph at the time of impact -- a situation that would have been prevented with seatbelts. Yes, there would still have been injuries and death, but I'd just as soon have a chance at survival with a seatbelt.

Anyone got any data here? Are we up against lobbyists from the bus manufacturers persuading our loyal elected officials against legislation? I'm NOT a fan of big government, but isn't safety at this level something that government should be handling? Thanks.

80 saltmarsh  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:18:18pm

re: #16 Arkay

Okay, howzaout this for a subject?

I have a well placd GOP friend on Capiol Hill who informed me yesterday that "The election is over. Obama is in." Why? "The trillion dollar bailout and the meltdown. The left will blame Bush and the right will hate the bailout."

That's the short version. Whaddayaall think?

How long have you been friends with Arlan Specter?

81 opnion  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:18:58pm

re: #72 Irene NYC

Goodness, everyone would be drawn and quartered pronto!
;)

Yeah, but my point is that his race would not be relevant to Republican voters for Colin Powell. Dems play identity politics.

82 lummox  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:19:03pm

re: #44 opnion

Mama Winger, for you and all citizens of the Cubs Nation, it looks like you clinch the division today. Cubs are up 3 t 0 & if that doesn't work the Brewers are losing.

Let's not forget goats, black cats & grabby fans though.

83 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:19:12pm

re: #16 Arkay

Okay, howzaout this for a subject?

I have a well placd GOP friend on Capiol Hill who informed me yesterday that "The election is over. Obama is in." Why? "The trillion dollar bailout and the meltdown. The left will blame Bush and the right will hate the bailout."

That's the short version. Whaddayaall think?

Besides, you shouldn't share stuff like that- EIDE_Interface will wring his hands and think that the sky is falling.

84 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:19:32pm

re: #75 wahabicorridor

Walter, what happened to you? /get better soon!

Indirect inguinal hernia surgery, this past Tues. Managed care sort of procedure, get em' in, get em' out, go home, call if something falls off.

85 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:19:32pm

re: #74 Nevergiveup

Last update - 23:49 20/09/2008

Diplomats: No evidence Syria site bombed by IAF was nuclear reactor

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Must have been one hell of indoor beauty spa?

The Syrians sure made all the evidence (even the rubble) disappear in a freaking hurry after the bombing, so naturally "diplomats" would say that.

86 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:19:39pm

re: #67 wahabicorridor

I have LOTS of 'well-placed' friends on the Hill. Hubby is a lobbyist.

Bullshit.

The right hates Obama's socialist values worse. Republicans do not want terrorists in the Lincoln bedroom. Catholic's who usually vote democrat are up in arms with Biden and his abortion stance. So far 55 bishops have publicly come out against him. Even the Knights of Columbus are taking out ads against Obama.

Obama is unlikable in a way that kennedy and clinton were NOT - and then there is Michelle: one of the sourest, most pessimistic, and low-class, as in tacky, sounding political wives I can ever remember.

Research shows that the most pessimistic candidate always loses.

87 sandspur  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:19:48pm

re: #43 MandyManners

I just checked on espn.com, and UT is letting those fucking Gators win.

Every team wants a Tebow, but only one team has one! 8-p

88 right_in_canada  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:20:09pm

Hi fellow LGF bloggers, I just woke up from nice long nap. How are we all doing ?

89 opnion  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:20:41pm

re: #82 lummox

Let's not forget goats, black cats & grabby fans though.

And how about the dreaded Hewitt actuary, Steve Bartman?

90 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:20:47pm

re: #71 Killian Bundy

Donald Rumsfeld made Condoleezza Rice cry in the White House

/he's such a mean old man

Well I don't give a shit that she cryed, but I am sorry to hear that the "Hawks" lost out.

91 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:20:59pm

re: #81 opnion

Yeah, but my point is that his race would not be relevant to Republican voters for Colin Powell. Dems play identity politics.

And my point was that your point wouldn't matter because the only news that would be played 24/7 by the MSM would be that the Rethuglicans are racists and deserve to die. (Even if they aren't.)
;)

92 politicalinsomniac  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:21:19pm

re: #87 sandspur

Every team wants a Tebow, but only one team has one! 8-p

I wonder if the Vols will even score today....

93 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:21:25pm

re: #87 sandspur

ttthhhppppppppppppptttttttttt

94 debutaunt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:21:33pm

A Ronald Reagan knew more about human nature, and thus what drives the Soviet Union than did all the Ivy-League Soviet specialists that surrounded Jimmy Carter — much less the Sally Quins and Maureen Dowds of that age. We in America, unlike the Europeans, know this intuitively, grasp that a Harry Truman figured out the Russian communists far better than did the Harvard-educated aristocrat FDR.

- VDH

95 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:21:41pm

re: #73 opnion

I would have preferred to hear 'they know they are in a tough fight'. Respectfully, on a lot of issues I am tired of happy talk.

96 doppelganglander  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:21:52pm

re: #47 Perplexed

The blacks make up only around 25% of the total population. I suspect minority voters for nObama might be disappointed when he loses big.

Less than that, actually. Blacks are about 12.9% of the population nationally, although that varies from state to state. Here in Georgia, for instance, it's about 24%, I think.

I'm sure this was discussed earlier, but here's a link to the poll that basically says whites are all a bunch of racists therefore Obama is in trouble:

Poll: Racial views steer some white Dems away from Obama

Way way down, you finally get to this:

Lots of Republicans harbor prejudices, too, but the survey found they weren't voting against Obama because of his race. Most Republicans wouldn't vote for any Democrat for president — white, black or brown.
97 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:22:30pm

re: #92 politicalinsomniac

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98 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:22:42pm

re: #84 Walter L. Newton

call if something falls off

UH OH!
Think maybe the surgeon knows he might have made a slip?

99 opnion  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:22:56pm

re: #86 DistantThunder

Obama will not carry the Catholioc vote. Pretty Sarah took care of that.
(I know that she is not Catholic, but she is popular with Catholics)

100 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:23:02pm

re: #33 godfrey

Good grief, we are positively infested.

101 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:23:09pm

re: #97 MandyManners

Umm... that's just whack.

;^)

102 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:23:11pm

re: #89 opnion

And how about the dreaded Hewitt actuary, Steve Bartman?

I think Bartman and grabby fans are one and the same.

103 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:23:41pm

re: #79 once and future angeleno

Seatbelts on school busses is not a good idea. As an old school bus driver, I can tell you the reasoning for NOT having them is this: A full sized bus can carry up to 72 small children. Should that bus catch fire, or hit water, the chances of a single driver getting them unbuckled is zero. Hence the high seats.

104 opnion  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:23:58pm

re: #91 Irene NYC

And my point was that your point wouldn't matter because the only news that would be played 24/7 by the MSM would be that the Rethuglicans are racists and deserve to die. (Even if they aren't.)
;)

I get your drift. Also, Powell would probably be portrayed as a TOM.

105 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:24:11pm

Mandy's in fine form

*duck*

106 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:24:25pm

re: #84 Walter L. Newton

Hey Walter, good to see you. All the best with the recovery.

107 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:24:27pm

re: #104 opnion

I get your drift. Also, Powell would probably be portrayed as a TOM.

Most definitely.
;)

108 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:24:31pm

re: #100 Meremortal

Good grief, we are positively infested.

What's really sad is they seem to think it will work on this crowd.

109 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:25:00pm

re: #101 Spiny Norman

110 opnion  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:25:12pm

re: #102 Nevergiveup

I think Bartman and grabby fans are one and the same.

Uh, yeah. I read Crabby fans. Later , half time is over.

111 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:25:15pm

re: #98 pre-Boomer Marine brat

UH OH!
Think maybe the surgeon knows he might have made a slip?

I was being snarky. :)

112 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:25:19pm
Hi fellow LGF bloggers, I just woke up from nice long nap. How are we all doing ?

Made it through the 8 year old's bowling birthday party. Mr DT choose to go with the teenagers on the church canoe trip. His canoe hit a snag and capsized.
I came home with a migraine - but took half a vicodin.

Other than that it's a glorious day in the east. However - this bombing has really upset me. Terrorists ruining thousands of lives - again.

113 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:25:34pm

re: #107 Irene NYC

Most definitely.
;)

Thanks.

114 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:25:47pm

At Gateway Pundit

The more it's spewed by the drive-by press (MSM), the more it's going to back fire on Obama. People do not like being accused of racism, nor do they like being told they are "stupid redneck hicks" if they don't vote for him.

Let the Kathleen Sebelius "codeword" attacks continue, and let all the Woody Allens in the US decry how humiliated we'd be if we don't elect Obama, but in the end, they might just cost Obama the election by alienating white voters.

115 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:25:54pm

re: #94 debutaunt

A Ronald Reagan knew more about human nature, and thus what drives the Soviet Union than did all the Ivy-League Soviet specialists that surrounded Jimmy Carter — much less the Sally Quins and Maureen Dowds of that age. We in America, unlike the Europeans, know this intuitively, grasp that a Harry Truman figured out the Russian communists far better than did the Harvard-educated aristocrat FDR.

- VDH

Genius - both of them.

116 ggt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:26:09pm

gotta go, short stay.

have a great day all!

117 Shay4l  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:26:28pm

In other news, Dallas has left behind summer and will have beautiful weather for the next 8-9 months.

I can't tell you how happy I am that I will never shovel snow again.

118 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:27:02pm

re: #111 Walter L. Newton

I was being snarky. :)

*grin*
I know, and I'm male and have had one of those operations.
/he said in a very high-pitched voice

119 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:27:02pm

re: #106 Meremortal

Hey Walter, good to see you. All the best with the recovery.

Sorry IRENE, my 113 was meant for 106, but Hi.

120 wahabicorridor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:27:37pm

re: #53 Walter L. Newton

Or am I missing something here?

Yes, you are missing something.

Let me know if I need to explain what 'mark to market' is. It's an accounting rule imposed post-Enron. Basically, it says that you must value your assets according to what you could sell them for TODAY.

When the market for subprime mortgage derivatives like credit default swaps tanked, they had to be marked with a value of zero.

Everyone's books imploded.

What Paulson is doing is buying all the paper AND CREATING A MARKET FOR IT. The underlying assets, - the houses - DO have value, after all.

The paper will be auctioned. People may actually make money from this. We'll see.

Treasury is basically acting as a bankruptcy court.

121 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:27:47pm

re: #108 Sharmuta

Greetings, Shar. I'm aggravated to see it working on some.

Sigh...

122 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:27:58pm

re: #97 MandyManners

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Oh my, looks like somebody is going to need a new clue-by-four after all that whacking..... :O

123 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:28:12pm

re: #119 Walter L. Newton

Sorry IRENE, my 113 was meant for 106, but Hi.

Hi back, Walter. Glad to hear you're feeling better, you handsome hunk!
;)

124 sandspur  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:28:46pm

re: #93 MandyManners

ttthhhppppppppppppptttttttttt

Well, OK! I was expecting a whack! 8-)

125 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:29:20pm

re: #119 Walter L. Newton

Sorry IRENE, my 113 was meant for 106, but Hi.

Walter, pass me that pill bottle, will you? Heehee.

126 right_in_canada  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:29:37pm

re: #31 Killian Bundy

Let's recap, Saeah Palin fired the Public Safety Commissioner for not firing a State Trooper and replaced him with a Public Safety Commissioner who didn't fire the State Trooper.

/everybody up to speed now?


That's her BIIIIIG scandal ?

Oh she ought be ashamed, I thought she was gonna be a good VP until I heard that !

///

127 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:29:52pm

re: #117 Shay4l

In other news, Dallas has left behind summer and will have beautiful weather for the next 8-9 months.

I can't tell you how happy I am that I will never shovel snow again.

How did you know. I lived in Dallas for 13 years. The only change of season we had was for about 2 weeks in Feb. Other than that, it was warm, hot or hotter, rain, no rain or tornados.

I remember one winter when I was in Houston, around 1988. We had 3 weeks of blow freezing. Pipes were bursting all over the region. There was a six month wait for plumbers.

Walter in Golden, Co.

128 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:29:56pm

re: #114 Intrepid

At Gateway Pundit

The more it's spewed by the drive-by press (MSM), the more it's going to back fire on Obama. People do not like being accused of racism, nor do they like being told they are "stupid redneck hicks" if they don't vote for him.

Let the Kathleen Sebelius "codeword" attacks continue, and let all the Woody Allens in the US decry how humiliated we'd be if we don't elect Obama, but in the end, they might just cost Obama the election by alienating white voters.

EXACTLY! When I worked at Nordstrom years ago - I finished wrapping a gift package and turned to the next customer who was across the jewelry bay behind me - a black woman - who angrily asked: 'Are you telling me that you really didn't see me?" I was so shocked. I had been facing the other side of the store wrapping a package - I did not have eyes in the back of my head. There also happened to be a high cupboard island filled with jewelry in the center of the jewelry bay - and she was behind THAT.

I was mortified that she was so dellusional to think that I could see through cases and wooden structures. She could have EASILY walked around to my side of the cases to get my attention.

Talk about a CHIP on her shoulder - more like a boulder.

129 debutaunt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:29:59pm

I think Palin can speak, and reason, and navigate with bureaucrats and lawyers as well as can Obama; but he surely cannot understand hunters, and mechanics and carpenters like she can. And a Putin or a Chavez or a Wall-Street speculator that runs a leverage brokerage house is more a hunter than a professor or community organizer. Harvard Law School is not as valuable a touchstone to human nature as raising five children in Alaska while going toe-to-toe with pretty tough, hard-nose Alaskan males.

More VDH

130 Shay4l  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:30:01pm

re: #120 wahabicorridor

Yes, you are missing something.

Let me know if I need to explain what 'mark to market' is. It's an accounting rule imposed post-Enron. Basically, it says that you must value your assets according to what you could sell them for TODAY.

When the market for subprime mortgage derivatives like credit default swaps tanked, they had to be marked with a value of zero.

Everyone's books imploded.

What Paulson is doing is buying all the paper AND CREATING A MARKET FOR IT. The underlying assets, - the houses - DO have value, after all.

The paper will be auctioned. People may actually make money from this. We'll see.

Treasury is basically acting as a bankruptcy court.


Thank you for that, it's nice to get some information not available from the MSM.

131 Truck Monkey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:30:17pm

re: #47 Perplexed

The blacks make up only around 25% of the total population. I suspect minority voters for nObama might be disappointed when he loses big.

About 1/2 of that actually. 12.7% to be exact.

132 looking closely  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:30:37pm

re: #31 Killian Bundy

Let's recap, Saeah Palin fired the Public Safety Commissioner for not firing a State Trooper and replaced him with a Public Safety Commissioner who didn't fire the State Trooper.

/everybody up to speed now?

That isn't necessarily a contradiction (even assuming its true).

The first guy was fired for insubordination, probably chronic (ie it wasn't necessarily the non-firing that got him canned, but that was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back).

By the time PSC#2 came around, things may have been different,

133 runrabbitrun  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:30:45pm

re: #16 Arkay

Okay, howzaout this for a subject?

I have a well placd GOP friend on Capiol Hill who informed me yesterday that "The election is over. Obama is in." Why? "The trillion dollar bailout and the meltdown. The left will blame Bush and the right will hate the bailout."

That's the short version. Whaddayaall think?

It might work if this year the Repubs weren't putting up two candidates famous for running corruption from both parties out of town on a rail.

If Mac makes it plain to the voters that Obama has ZERO record in fighting Dems who - like himself - had both pockets stuffed with cash from floundering financial rackets and their helmsmen, while Mac has been shown willing to wipe out fraud regardless of the side of the aisle supporting it, Americans would flock to pull the (R) lever.

"vote for Obama, leave most of the crooks right where they DON'T belong"

As for the right hating the bailout: A major depression would cost more jobs, more relief $$$, more bank, financial institution and industry failure, FDIC payouts, and ultimate make a trillion dollar payback for the taxpayer look like a day at the beach. And if repubs are repulsed by the government getting involved in a bailout scheme, let them imagine how much power government programs and makework projects would give Big Brother in the event of a broader economic meltdown.

134 wahabicorridor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:30:53pm

re: #84 Walter L. Newton

Indirect inguinal hernia surgery, this past Tues. Managed care sort of procedure, get em' in, get em' out, go home, call if something falls off.


I just lost my appetite. I'm so sorry. *gentle hug*

135 sandspur  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:31:01pm

re: #92 politicalinsomniac

I wonder if the Vols will even score today....

I hope not!
Of course, after all the hoo-ha about the end-of-game field goal in the Miami game, the Gators will probably be called out for not stopping the game at the end of the third quarter!

136 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:31:55pm

re: #131 Truck Monkey

About 1/2 of that actually. 12.7% to be exact.

Estimated high that way can't get dinged for attempting to minimize the effects of one of nObama's voting blocs.

137 doppelganglander  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:32:01pm

Addendum to my #96: I just caught this gem:

Obama, the first black candidate with a serious shot at the presidency, accepted the Democratic nomination on the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech, a seminal moment for a nation that enshrined slavery in its Constitution.

Slavery is not mentioned once in the Constitution, aside from the amendment banning it. Article 1, Section 2 describes the method of counting people for apportioning representatives and refers to free persons, Indians, and "all others." It by no means establishes a constitutional right to own slaves.

138 Shay4l  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:32:42pm

re: #127 Walter L. Newton

How did you know. I lived in Dallas for 13 years. The only change of season we had was for about 2 weeks in Feb. Other than that, it was warm, hot or hotter, rain, no rain or tornados.

I remember one winter when I was in Houston, around 1988. We had 3 weeks of blow freezing. Pipes were bursting all over the region. There was a six month wait for plumbers.

Walter in Golden, Co.


Lucked out. My then-future-wife lived here. So I came, having the more portable physical and non-physical assets.

139 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:33:18pm

Some teams just have the characteristics of a winner. This ND team does NOT.

140 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:33:56pm

BBL.

141 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:34:00pm

re: #84 Walter L. Newton

Indirect inguinal hernia surgery, this past Tues. Managed care sort of procedure, get em' in, get em' out, go home, call if something falls off.

/squat thrusts

142 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:34:17pm

re: #133 runrabbitrun

"vote for Obama, leave most of the crooks right where they DON'T belong"

Support Corruption- Elect Democrats

143 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:34:20pm

re: #122 doriangrey

Oh my, looks like somebody is going to need a new clue-by-four after all that whacking..... :O

Steel core.

144 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:34:21pm

re: #123 Irene NYC

Hi back, Walter. Glad to hear you're feeling better, you handsome hunk! ;)

Well, really, thanks for the compliment, but I'm not so hunky anymore. As you all know, I've lost over 160 pounds sionce that picture was taken, and now, at 55, all that baby fat is gone and I look more like a wrinkled older man.

And the super dry Colorado weather doesn't help. Most people who have spent a good amount of time in Colorado (I've been here 20 years), eventualy find out why leather looks like it does after many years of use.

But that's the nicest thing anyone has said to me in a long time. You are a woman, yes? LOL.

145 Truck Monkey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:34:32pm

re: #63 Shay4l

"I have a well placd GOP friend on Capiol Hill who informed me yesterday"

Jeez, give me a break! How phony can you get?

Sounds exactly like: I am a lifelong Republican, but for the first time in my life.... BS!

Kind of reads like a Penthouse Forum story. "I don't know how I got to drive the bus to Lesbian Cheerleader Camp, but I was just happy to be aboard. You'll never believe what happened next......"

146 funky chicken  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:34:40pm

re: #16 Arkay

Okay, howzaout this for a subject?

I have a well placd GOP friend on Capiol Hill who informed me yesterday that "The election is over. Obama is in." Why? "The trillion dollar bailout and the meltdown. The left will blame Bush and the right will hate the bailout."

That's the short version. Whaddayaall think?

either a nancy boy bedwetter, or one of the guys who wants McCain to lose because he's gonna stop the pork train. There's a whole lotta GOP porkers in congress who don't like McCain one little bit.

147 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:34:54pm

re: #124 sandspur

Well, OK! I was expecting a whack! 8-)

My arm was a tired.

148 wahabicorridor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:34:57pm

re: #86 DistantThunder


You're not gonna believe this. We have a very good friend, a GOP staffer, who wants Obama to win because - get this - he'll suck so much the Republicans will sweep Congress in the midterms.

I love her to death but I could beat her with a stick.

149 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:34:58pm

re: #79 once and future angeleno

Re seatbelts on trains

Been meaning to ask this ... why are there no seatbelts on trains (thinking of recent terrible event in Simi Valley)?

For years there was scoffing at the idea that school busses needed to be safer inside, but I now see busses with highback seats, padded better than the steel rails that went across the back of seats (right at tooth level) when I was a kid. Seatbelts? I don't know if they've gone that far.

A year or so ago there was a bad crash in Atlanta of a leased bus carrying a college team, where the bus flipped over the railing and landed below -- I recall comments then that there would likely not have been such a severe list of injured and dead if there had been ... seatbelts.

The commentary on the Simi Valley crash was that people were flying unhindered through the air at 80 mph at the time of impact -- a situation that would have been prevented with seatbelts. Yes, there would still have been injuries and death, but I'd just as soon have a chance at survival with a seatbelt.

Anyone got any data here? Are we up against lobbyists from the bus manufacturers persuading our loyal elected officials against legislation? I'm NOT a fan of big government, but isn't safety at this level something that government should be handling? Thanks.

No question that they should have belts and people can choose to wear them - actually - they should be mandated to wear them so that people don't go flying across the train and slam into others who are securely fastened.

150 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:35:28pm

re: #144 Walter L. Newton

Walter, your eyes are lovely. Forget about the rest. ;)
/yes, I'm female.

151 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:35:41pm

re: #144 Walter L. Newton

Well, really, thanks for the compliment, but I'm not so hunky anymore. As you all know, I've lost over 160 pounds sionce that picture was taken, and now, at 55, all that baby fat is gone and I look more like a wrinkled older man.

And the super dry Colorado weather doesn't help. Most people who have spent a good amount of time in Colorado (I've been here 20 years), eventualy find out why leather looks like it does after many years of use.

But that's the nicest thing anyone has said to me in a long time. You are a woman, yes? LOL.

Walter - how did you lose the weight? What was the most useful thing you did?

152 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:35:45pm

re: #143 MandyManners

Steel core.

Planning on knee capping ( or as some refer to it as tonya harding ) someone?

153 funky chicken  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:36:14pm

re: #145 Truck Monkey

Kind of reads like a Penthouse Forum story. "I don't know how I got to drive the bus to Lesbian Cheerleader Camp, but I was just happy to be aboard. You'll never believe what happened next......"

Or yes, the attack of the "concern troll"

They really have gotten out here lately, haven't they?

154 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:36:56pm

re: #141 Killian Bundy

/squat thrusts

Bad Killian, Bad, bad...!

155 Macker  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:37:24pm

re: #146 funky chicken

either a nancy boy bedwetter....

Speaking of Nancy, does anyone know how she's doing in her titanic battle against Mama Moonbat?

156 looking closely  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:37:28pm

re: #131 Truck Monkey

Its not how many Blacks there are that matters, really.

Its how many of them show up to vote (presumably for reasons of identity) in "swing" states.

157 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:37:58pm

It's so nice around here right now I hate to leave. Duty calls. See you all later.

158 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:38:17pm

re: #148 wahabicorridor

You're not gonna believe this. We have a very good friend, a GOP staffer, who wants Obama to win because - get this - he'll suck so much the Republicans will sweep Congress in the midterms.

I love her to death but I could beat her with a stick.

My son is joining the airforce _ and I could imagine us back in Somalia with Obama and Biden dictating combat orders and retreat orders.

Nightmare!

159 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:39:27pm

"What they're doing is chauvinism: Two men are getting together in order to screw the meidele (young girl in Yiddish.) This is simply a disgrace," said one Livni associate. "Ehud Barak should not be known as Mr. Security, but rather, as Mr. Horse-Trading."


Barak, Bibi meet; Livni's associates upset

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Oh boy this is getting good. Looks like a cat fight with only one cat?

160 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:39:32pm

re: #152 Nevergiveup

Planning on knee capping ( or as some refer to it as tonya harding ) someone?

Ahhhhh. I hadn't thought of that!

161 sandspur  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:39:53pm

re: #147 MandyManners

My arm was a tired.

Bless your heart!

162 williwonka  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:40:29pm

re: #47 Perplexed

The blacks make up only around 25% of the total population. I suspect minority voters for nObama might be disappointed when he loses big.

"According to Census 2000 figures released this week, 36.4 million people, or 12.9 percent of the total population, reported as being Black or African American."

Yes there have been changes since 2000 but doubt the percentage has changed.

Your point is still valid and there will be more than disapointment as crys of racism are already being heard.

163 funky chicken  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:40:42pm
Posted at 8:25 PM on 9/19/2008 by Michael Goldfarb
Washington Post Attacks Washington Post

The Washington Post's Michael Dobbs fact checks the ad this campaign released yesterday titled "Advice":
So what evidence does the McCain campaign have for the supposed Obama-Raines connection? It is pretty flimsy, but it is not made up completely out of whole cloth.
Pretty flimsy? As Dobbs goes on to say, that "pretty flimsy" source is his own paper, the Washington Post. The Post reported that Raines had "taken calls from Barack Obama's presidential campaign seeking his advice on mortgage and housing policy matters." It then recycled that information into two more pieces, one of which was an editorial. But we're willing to make a deal. If Dobbs admits his newspaper is not a credible source, we'll take down the ad.

[Link: www.johnmccain.com...]

Posted at 10:30 AM on 9/19/2008 by Michael Goldfarb
No Time for the Facts

Time magazine’s Karen Tumulty accuses this campaign of racism for launching this ad targeting Senator Obama’s ties to Fannie Mae Chairman Franklin Raines. Why? Tumulty writes:
Obama's Fannie Mae connections are completely fair game. But this ad doesn't even mention a far more significant tie--that of Jim Johnson, the former Fannie Mae chairman who had to resign as head of Obama's vice presidential search team after it was revealed he got a sweetheart deal on a mortgage from Countrywide Financial. Instead, it relies on a fleeting and tenuous reference in a Washington Post Style section story to suggest that Obama's principal economic adviser is former Fannie Mae Chairman Frank Raines. Why? One reason might be that Johnson is white; Raines is black.
The only problem with Ms. Tumulty’s story is that we also released an today targeting Senator Obama’s extensive ties to Jim Johnson. The ad is called…Jim Johnson. And Ms. Tumulty might have been aware of its existence if she’d bothered to call this campaign to find out the facts (reporting) before indicting us for racism in a half-baked, late night rant. Tumulty also takes Obama’s response, signed by Mr. Raines, at face value. The Obama campaign says Raines didn’t advise the campaign, and Tumulty apparently wasn’t interested in getting to the bottom of that either. So we contacted Ms. Tumulty and told her of the multiple sources that tie Raines to Obama, including three separate instances in the Washington Post, none of which was ever challenged by Raines or the Obama campaign until yesterday.

Tumulty did not correct her post, she simply responded “I grew up in Texas. I know what this stuff looks like.” Well, now we all know what hysterical liberal bias looks like as well.

[Link: www.johnmccain.com...]

164 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:41:04pm

re: #148 wahabicorridor

You're not gonna believe this. We have a very good friend, a GOP staffer, who wants Obama to win because - get this - he'll suck so much the Republicans will sweep Congress in the midterms.

I love her to death but I could beat her with a stick.

By midterm elections, 0bama's minions will make sure that we hear nothing but bad about any Republicans; by his second term, there won't be any, and by his third...
/only partially sarc; I think this timescale is short

165 Charles  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:41:25pm

If you reload the page, the top links area is now pretty much finished being redesigned, to match the other stylistic elements instead of having its own boxy, busy look.

166 Shay4l  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:41:32pm

re: #153 funky chicken

Or yes, the attack of the "concern troll"

They really have gotten out here lately, haven't they?


And who ever says anything like, "I have a good friend who informed me..."

Nobody talks like that.

Rats, reporters, stool pigeons and other low-lifes inform.

167 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:42:07pm

re: #159 Nevergiveup

Ad.

[Link: www.rjchq.org...]

168 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:42:47pm

re: #161 sandspur

Bless your heart!

Nevergivup gave me new idea in No. 152.

169 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:43:09pm

re: #150 Irene NYC

Walter, your eyes are lovely. Forget about the rest. ;)
/yes, I'm female.

re: #151 DistantThunder

Walter - how did you lose the weight? What was the most useful thing you did?

Irene - I'll accept that, yes. Thanks.

Dt - Number one thing, I stopped drinking over two years ago, completely. I use to drink a six pack of Mickeys and two pints of Southern Comfort a day, after work.

It did not effect my job or anything like that, but it was putting to much stress on my body.

Other than that, I just did the common things, better eating, the gym (well, not during the last six months, the hernia you know) and just more physical stuff in general.

I also put the cigarettes down, cold turkey, three weeks ago. Doctor said it would be better for my blood pressure before going into this surgery.

So, I've spent a lot of time in the last 2-3 years trying to undo all the "youth" that I had done to myself.

Now that I'm getting really healthy, I'm gonna drop dead any day now. I've seen that happen to 3 friends of mine in the last 30 years. Get healthy, die.

170 wahabicorridor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:43:20pm

re: #158 DistantThunder

My son is joining the airforce

Please convey my family's heartfelt thanks for his service. And thank you for yours, too, Mom.

171 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:43:21pm

re: #167 MandyManners

Ad.

[Link: www.rjchq.org...]

They be my peeps!

172 BBEV  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:43:39pm

re: #158 DistantThunder

My son is joining the air force _ and I could imagine us back in Somalia with Obama and Biden dictating combat orders and retreat orders.

Nightmare!

Ya like don't shoot till you have been shot at and hit.

173 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:44:06pm

My goodness, that front page and the top links sure are popping.

Very nice, Charles.
;)

174 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:44:08pm

re: #165 Charles

It looks great, Charles.

175 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:44:12pm

I just got off the phone with a longtime friend, who is like a second dad to me. He called me to tell me about a conversation he just had with one of his longtime friends, who works with one of the campaigns. I never asked which campaign. Take this with a grain of salt, I am, but, my friend is no bullshitter, is one of the most honest people I have ever met, and so are the friends he keeps. He tells me that Obama will be having an "October Surprise", by which, Joe Biden will be dropping out due to "Health Reasons", an annuerism
and the Hildabeast will step in. Knowing my friend, and the caliber of his social circle, all staunch conservatives, I would not be surprised if it were correct, or close. I so hope it is NOT true.

176 stuiec  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:44:37pm

re: #17 MandyManners

I think it's a load of bullshit.

Well, it's certainly going to keep Bush from being re-elected.

Oh, wait -- that would be the 22nd Amendment that's doing that.

So I guess it really doesn't impact McCain's chances at all -- except maybe to make Sarah Palin look even more attractive to conservative voters.

177 funky chicken  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:45:33pm

re: #148 wahabicorridor

You're not gonna believe this. We have a very good friend, a GOP staffer, who wants Obama to win because - get this - he'll suck so much the Republicans will sweep Congress in the midterms.

I love her to death but I could beat her with a stick.

I'd toss that friendship overboard. We have troops in harms way, and your idiot "friend" is willing to put them all in much greater danger to accomplish what, exactly?

Who is this loser fantasizing is going to ride to the rescue in 2 years? Trent Lott? Thad Cochran? Porky Pig?

Sorry, but my husband is deployed to Kabul right now, and will be after the inauguration. Shallow bitches like your "friend" giggle over how "terrible" Obama will be as his Commander in Chief because they have a personal animus toward John McCain.

but they "support the troops"

my ass

178 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:46:02pm

re: #175 CapeCoddah

You want to know my October surprise. Rays over Soxs in 4 straight!

179 Shay4l  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:46:11pm

re: #169 Walter L. Newton

Irene - I'll accept that, yes. Thanks.

Dt - Number one thing, I stopped drinking over two years ago, completely. I use to drink a six pack of Mickeys and two pints of Southern Comfort a day, after work.

It did not effect my job or anything like that, but it was putting to much stress on my body.

Other than that, I just did the common things, better eating, the gym (well, not during the last six months, the hernia you know) and just more physical stuff in general.

I also put the cigarettes down, cold turkey, three weeks ago. Doctor said it would be better for my blood pressure before going into this surgery.

So, I've spent a lot of time in the last 2-3 years trying to undo all the "youth" that I had done to myself.

Now that I'm getting really healthy, I'm gonna drop dead any day now. I've seen that happen to 3 friends of mine in the last 30 years. Get healthy, die.


Whoa! a six of Mickey's and 2 pints of Southern Comfort must have kept you pretty happy. Did you ever catch cold or flu? No way a germ was gonna sneak past that barrier.

180 funky chicken  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:46:45pm

re: #165 Charles

If you reload the page, the top links area is now pretty much finished being redesigned, to match the other stylistic elements instead of having its own boxy, busy look.

I read that as "boxy, busty" at first.

oy, time to step away from the keyboard

181 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:47:21pm

re: #178 Nevergiveup

You want to know my October surprise. Rays over Soxs in 4 straight!

Not gonna happen! It is imprudent at this juncture.

182 sandspur  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:47:22pm

re: #168 MandyManners

Nevergivup gave me new idea in No. 152.


Steel core?
I reckon I'll just hush up for the rest of the game!

183 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:47:33pm

re: #175 CapeCoddah

I just got off the phone with a longtime friend, who is like a second dad to me. He called me to tell me about a conversation he just had with one of his longtime friends, who works with one of the campaigns. I never asked which campaign. Take this with a grain of salt, I am, but, my friend is no bullshitter, is one of the most honest people I have ever met, and so are the friends he keeps. He tells me that Obama will be having an "October Surprise", by which, Joe Biden will be dropping out due to "Health Reasons", an annuerism
and the Hildabeast will step in. Knowing my friend, and the caliber of his social circle, all staunch conservatives, I would not be surprised if it were correct, or close. I so hope it is NOT true.

People will see through it.

184 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:48:21pm

re: #179 Shay4l

Whoa! a six of Mickey's and 2 pints of Southern Comfort must have kept you pretty happy. Did you ever catch cold or flu? No way a germ was gonna sneak past that barrier.

Funny you mention that. I NEVER had a cold or flu. But since I stopped, I have allergies and all kinds of congestion problems (well, off on on).

I never got sick, really.

185 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:48:34pm

re: #183 MandyManners

No doubt about that, we agree on that wholeheartedly, Mandy

186 WhiteRasta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:48:55pm

My version of the "October Surprise" would involve castrating Iran's nuke ambitions....

187 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:49:04pm

re: #183 MandyManners

People will see through it.

The PUMAs have already said they wont go for it. I think to the American people it will reek of desperation.

188 BBEV  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:49:28pm

re: #175 CapeCoddah

I just got off the phone with a longtime friend, who is like a second dad to me. He called me to tell me about a conversation he just had with one of his longtime friends, who works with one of the campaigns. I never asked which campaign. Take this with a grain of salt, I am, but, my friend is no bullshitter, is one of the most honest people I have ever met, and so are the friends he keeps. He tells me that Obama will be having an "October Surprise", by which, Joe Biden will be dropping out due to "Health Reasons", an aneurysm
and the Hildabeast will step in. Knowing my friend, and the caliber of his social circle, all staunch conservatives, I would not be surprised if it were correct, or close. I so hope it is NOT true.

If that happens one has to wonder if Obama would suddenly have one also just before the elections?

189 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:49:28pm

re: #120 wahabicorridor

Dave Ramsey on his show yesterday said that next week would be the best window of opportunity he has ever seen for truly qualified home buyers to buy a house. With low rates and bargains everywhere.

190 rb4269  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:49:29pm

Illinois is the New Jersey of the midwest.
Discuss.

191 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:49:49pm

re: #186 WhiteRasta

My version of the "October Surprise" would involve castrating Iran's nuke ambitions....

Oh, I like your surprise better, even as I close my legs tight!

192 runrabbitrun  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:49:53pm

re: #142 Sharmuta

Support Corruption- Elect Democrats

What a great youtube link! thanks :)

I do believe that Mac/Palin's bipartisan approach to fighting sweetheart dealmaking and top-level fraud is the GOP's greatest asset this election, and the documented rise of 'new politician' Obama from the stinking slimehole of one of the oldest, most nefarious political machines in the country our best weapon.

IF the McCain campaign is smart enough to deploy this ammo effectively....

193 stuiec  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:49:59pm

re: #175 CapeCoddah

I just got off the phone with a longtime friend, who is like a second dad to me. He called me to tell me about a conversation he just had with one of his longtime friends, who works with one of the campaigns. I never asked which campaign. Take this with a grain of salt, I am, but, my friend is no bullshitter, is one of the most honest people I have ever met, and so are the friends he keeps. He tells me that Obama will be having an "October Surprise", by which, Joe Biden will be dropping out due to "Health Reasons", an annuerism
and the Hildabeast will step in. Knowing my friend, and the caliber of his social circle, all staunch conservatives, I would not be surprised if it were correct, or close. I so hope it is NOT true.

I don't think there is anything that Obama could offer Hillary at this point that would induce her to take the VP slot. It would lock her out of a run for the top job for 8 years -- she couldn't challenge Obama in his re-election bid while serving as his VP -- and at her age, those extra four years from 2012 to 2016 make a big difference. Far better for her politically to let him fall on his sword so that she can tell the Democrat Party, "See? I told you so!"

Bill Clinton is doing his part, saying nice things about Sarah Palin's instinctive campaigning abilities while damning Obama with faint praise.

And even making the offer is totally fraught with danger for Obama: Mr. "I Have the Judgment to Make Up for My Experience" didn't choose Hillary at the convention, but now wants her? Why not then?

194 sandspur  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:50:15pm

re: #175 CapeCoddah

too late

195 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:50:19pm

re: #175 CapeCoddah

This scenario has been making the rounds for a while now. Frankly, I think it will be too late and too obvious. And I doubt Hillary would accept.

196 wahabicorridor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:50:57pm

re: #177 funky chicken

Welcome to Washington, the land of ruthless partisan ideology. She's young. She'll grow up one day. You are right about one thing tho'. She fucking hates McCain.

And many thanks to your husband and you for your service.

197 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:51:11pm

re: #105 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Mandy's in fine form

*duck*

Is she ever in any other kind?

198 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:51:14pm

re: #190 rb4269

Illinois is the New Jersey of the midwest.
Discuss.

The difference is that the toxic waste and organized crime are in the government.

199 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:51:18pm

bbiam, pooches are demanding dinner, after their late nap.

200 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:52:29pm

re: #195 Irene NYC

This scenario has been making the rounds for a while now. Frankly, I think it will be too late and too obvious. And I doubt Hillary would accept.

You're right. And everytime I read it, there is more an more details piled on. First it was just an annuerism. Then I heard it was going to be this and that, this time or that time and so on.

I don't think it's true, I thinks it's one of those internet myths that have grown over the weeks. I can't find any credible source for any part of this story.

201 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:52:45pm

re: #192 runrabbitrun

I have never been a big McCain fan, but when he said in his acceptance speech the Republicans had lost their way and were not seen as reformers anymore, I agreed. If he can bring the Republicans back to what they were supposed to be doing after we put them in there in the 90s- I'm all for it.

202 sandspur  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:53:01pm

re: #188 BBEV

If that happens one has to wonder if Obama would suddenly have one also just before the elections?

LOL! Obama's would probably be fatal!

203 Truck Monkey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:53:04pm

re: #184 Walter L. Newton

Funny you mention that. I NEVER had a cold or flu. But since I stopped, I have allergies and all kinds of congestion problems (well, off on on).

I never got sick, really.

Could be the smokes. I have been so very successful at quitting that I have done it several times.

204 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:53:04pm

re: #197 goddessoftheclassroom

Is she ever in any other kind?

Cough cough... er I wouldn't mind getting a gander at Mandy's fine form.... Or yours either dear.... /ducks..........

205 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:53:28pm

Well off to burn up a whole gaggle of chicken on the old barbie. be back later

206 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:53:30pm

re: #169 Walter L. Newton

Thanks for that....I'm helping Mr DT lose weight. He's never smoked or drank due to religious reasons.

207 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:53:40pm

re: #165 Charles

Now if you could only keep some people from spamming their blogs on every post.

208 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:53:50pm

re: #175 CapeCoddah

I just got off the phone with a longtime friend, who is like a second dad to me. He called me to tell me about a conversation he just had with one of his longtime friends, who works with one of the campaigns. I never asked which campaign. Take this with a grain of salt, I am, but, my friend is no bullshitter, is one of the most honest people I have ever met, and so are the friends he keeps. He tells me that Obama will be having an "October Surprise", by which, Joe Biden will be dropping out due to "Health Reasons", an annuerism
and the Hildabeast will step in. Knowing my friend, and the caliber of his social circle, all staunch conservatives, I would not be surprised if it were correct, or close. I so hope it is NOT true.

Oh, I believe it, but I'm not sure it will work for the Dems.

209 wahabicorridor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:54:31pm

re: #189 Intrepid

Dave Ramsey on his show yesterday said that next week would be the best window of opportunity he has ever seen for truly qualified home buyers to buy a house. With low rates and bargains everywhere.


Absolutely! I had someone ask me if we were going to pull back or dump some of our investments. I said ARE YOU NUCKING FUTS?

/the buy high, sell low morons

210 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:54:38pm

re: #207 Noam Sayin'

Now if you could only keep some people from spamming their blogs on every post.

Or the "related to Post" when it isn't.

211 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:54:39pm

re: #188 BBEV

If that happens one has to wonder if Obama would suddenly have one also just before the elections?


Well, Obama has still not turned over his medical records (unlike McCain). And there's tons of whispering that his cocaine use has lead to a weakened heart.
;)

212 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:55:30pm

re: #185 CapeCoddah

re: #187 Sharmuta

I don't think BHO's ego would let him admit he'd made a mistake.

213 stuiec  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:55:41pm

re: #177 funky chicken

I agree -- the world is too dangerous to accept a Clintonesque "triangulating" President held in check by a Republican Congress. (The world was too dangerous in 1990s, too, but it wasn't as obvious.)

And you're right: what Congressional Republican is going to stand up as the new Newt?

Elect McCain, prep Palin with VP experience to take the top job, and deal with retaking Congress separately. (Palin as VP will help with that task enormously.)

214 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:55:43pm

re: #187 Sharmuta

The PUMAs have already said they wont go for it. I think to the American people it will reek of desperation.

HIllary has nothing to gain by accepting. She's better off with him losing and then running against mccain in 4 years.

215 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:56:15pm

This post by AW a couple threads down got 6 downdings, but no responses. I thought I'd repost it & let y'all have at it:


#323 AW 9/20/08 1:47:11 pm reply quote -6

Don’t be shocked if you see the McCain campaign pull the controversial Rev. Jeremiah Wright out of mothballs in new attacks against one-time parishioner, Barack Obama.

It's pretty pathetic if that's the best they can come up with. Nothing new to offer? Out of ideas? No problem! Just besmirch the character of the guy running against you.

Instead of focusing on the issues the Republicans have only personal attacks to offer, some of them based on outright lies. If you're wondering why Obama is leading in the polls, this is why.

Charles, I've been an LGF fan since 2002, and during this election for the first time I'm feeling like your blog has become just the flip-side of Daily Kos. There's very little here nowadays besides partisan and dishonest Obama bashing. Hopefully after the election this blog will find its way back to being anti-idiotarian, and not just anti-Democrat.

216 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:56:30pm

re: #214 DistantThunder

HIllary has nothing to gain by accepting. She's better off with him losing and then running against mccain in 4 years.

I agree- that's the one thing that makes me think it's not true. The Clintons are many things, but stupid ain't one of them.

217 Josephine  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:56:51pm

Hi, folks.

Last night I watched, "Sophie Scholl - The Final Days".

It's a powerful film about a small group of young Germans who published and distributed anti-Nazi leaflets during the war.

Now I'm going to have to buy a book and learn more about her and the other people in the White Rose resistance group.

218 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:57:02pm

re: #206 DistantThunder

Thanks for that....I'm helping Mr DT lose weight. He's never smoked or drank due to religious reasons.

Well, then the bottom line is there is no magic formula. And take that from someone who has bounced from average to 424 pounds at one time. I've done it all. I've tried it all, and what I have done in the last 2-3 years has been the most successful.

This time was the first time I tried just plain old keep physical, don't put calories in your mouth and maintain, maintian. It's really that simple, hard for a lot of us, but simple.

219 alien_mind  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:57:09pm

ummm, Vlad.
We need to talk.

Putin: Russia Wants WTO Membership

220 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:57:49pm

re: #204 doriangrey

Cough cough... er I wouldn't mind getting a gander at Mandy's fine form.... Or yours either dear.... /ducks..........

GLARE!

221 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:57:49pm

re: #215 Tigger2005

This post by AW a couple threads down got 6 downdings, but no responses. I thought I'd repost it & let y'all have at it:


#323 AW 9/20/08 1:47:11 pm reply quote -6

Don’t be shocked if you see the McCain campaign pull the controversial Rev. Jeremiah Wright out of mothballs in new attacks against one-time parishioner, Barack Obama.

It's pretty pathetic if that's the best they can come up with. Nothing new to offer? Out of ideas? No problem! Just besmirch the character of the guy running against you.

Instead of focusing on the issues the Republicans have only personal attacks to offer, some of them based on outright lies. If you're wondering why Obama is leading in the polls, this is why.

Charles, I've been an LGF fan since 2002, and during this election for the first time I'm feeling like your blog has become just the flip-side of Daily Kos. There's very little here nowadays besides partisan and dishonest Obama bashing. Hopefully after the election this blog will find its way back to being anti-idiotarian, and not just anti-Democrat.

Creep.

222 wahabicorridor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:58:00pm

At this point, Hillary won't accept the VP spot. She gets along very well w/McCain and she won't mind one bit being a big deal in the Senate during a McCain presidency where she can make SENATOR Obama's life a living hell.

And she'll do it.

223 debutaunt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:58:04pm

re: #217 Josephine

That was a terrific movie!

224 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:58:14pm

re: #189 Intrepid

Dave Ramsey on his show yesterday said that next week would be the best window of opportunity he has ever seen for truly qualified home buyers to buy a house. With low rates and bargains everywhere.


Why next week? Too early yet to get great bargains. For that we'll have to wait for a saturated market of "can't affords", like from 2 and 3 home-owning, over-leveraged families, or when all that sub-prime mortgage paper is gone through. No?

225 Josephine  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:58:22pm

re: #169 Walter L. Newton

Get healthy, die.

I should live forever, then.

Good for you for getting healthy.

226 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 2:59:14pm

re: #219 alien_mind

ummm, Vlad.
We need to talk.

Putin: Russia Wants WTO Membership

WTO to Vlad the Invader, we'll call you, dont call us........

227 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:00:48pm

re: #219 alien_mind

ummm, Vlad.
We need to talk.

Putin: Russia Wants WTO Membership

I guess YOUR stock market collapse must REALLY suck, hmm, Vlad?

228 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:00:52pm

re: #212 MandyManners

re: #187 Sharmuta

I don't think BHO's ego would let him admit he'd made a mistake.

Agreed, but he would tout it as a "serious medical condition", deny any other motive, and the press would bill and coo over him. The One would never admit to anything as human as a "Mistake". I agree, wont work, but, the Hildabeast supporters have been a thorn for him for a long time.

229 runrabbitrun  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:00:53pm

re: #214 DistantThunder

HIllary has nothing to gain by accepting. She's better off with him losing and then running against mccain in 4 years.


Obama has nothing to gain by accepting Hillary and a 3-ring-circus administration either, and the same dynamic for a future shot at the presidency without Hill'n'Bill would be better for any legacy to which Barry might aspire, as well.

230 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:01:04pm

re: #215 Tigger2005

This post by AW a couple threads down got 6 downdings, but no responses. I thought I'd repost it & let y'all have at it:


#323 AW 9/20/08 1:47:11 pm reply quote -6

Don’t be shocked if you see the McCain campaign pull the controversial Rev. Jeremiah Wright out of mothballs in new attacks against one-time parishioner, Barack Obama.

It's pretty pathetic if that's the best they can come up with. Nothing new to offer? Out of ideas? No problem! Just besmirch the character of the guy running against you.

Instead of focusing on the issues the Republicans have only personal attacks to offer, some of them based on outright lies. If you're wondering why Obama is leading in the polls, this is why.

Charles, I've been an LGF fan since 2002, and during this election for the first time I'm feeling like your blog has become just the flip-side of Daily Kos. There's very little here nowadays besides partisan and dishonest Obama bashing. Hopefully after the election this blog will find its way back to being anti-idiotarian, and not just anti-Democrat.

McCain camp is talking about Wright because obama trolls are about to ripp into Palin for some black pastor who dabbled in witchcraft or blamed witchcraft or something. This is just a shot across the obama bow warning them not to go there.

i think a FAR more devastating issue is the condition of Chicago - High taxes, high crime, high unemployment, high dropout rates, - a real Democrat Nirvana. Let's roll out some commercials on that showing the Obama slums and the failed Obama/Ayers/ Annenberg educational work.

It's like Pottersville in It's a Wonderful Life.

231 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:01:19pm

re: #183 MandyManners

People will see through it.

Not only that, but at all the PUMA sites I've read, every one of them have basically begged Hillary not to get on any ticket with Obama because they believe it will tank her chances in 2012. Their absolute rejection of Obama has turned them toward McCain and Palin in a big way (they're really getting active for the McCain campaign!) and will not vote for Obama even if Hillary is on the ticket.

And the rest of the country - particularly undecideds and independents - will absolutely see right through it and will not go for it.

232 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:01:41pm

re: #226 doriangrey

WTO to Vlad the Invader, we'll call you, dont call us........


Putin's got the oil and gas. What he wants, he'll probably get.

233 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:02:11pm

re: #220 goddessoftheclassroom

GLARE!

Blink blink.....

234 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:02:46pm

re: #227 Tigger2005

I guess YOUR stock market collapse must REALLY suck, hmm, Vlad?

Like when your teenager chews you up and spits you out - then asks for a ride to the mall. Good luck with that.

235 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:02:53pm

re: #230 DistantThunder

McCain camp is talking about Wright because obama trolls are about to ripp into Palin for some black pastor who dabbled in witchcraft or blamed witchcraft or something. This is just a shot across the obama bow warning them not to go there.

i think a FAR more devastating issue is the condition of Chicago - High taxes, high crime, high unemployment, high dropout rates, - a real Democrat Nirvana. Let's roll out some commercials on that showing the Obama slums and the failed Obama/Ayers/ Annenberg educational work.

It's like Pottersville in It's a Wonderful Life.

They've already had ads about that, actually.

236 WhiteRasta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:03:29pm

I imagine Hillary pushing for a Supreme Court seat. She can do much more damage there.

237 WhiteRasta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:05:02pm

re: #234 DistantThunder

When you have the Euro-weenies by the testicles, their hearts and minds will follow.....

238 Josephine  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:05:02pm

re: #223 debutaunt

That was a terrific movie!

It was really well-made. The soundtrack grabbed me first. The acting, dialogue, lighting, are all excellent.

The final scene was shocking without being graphic.

239 Truck Monkey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:05:03pm

re: #236 WhiteRasta

I imagine Hillary pushing for a Supreme Court seat. She can do much more damage there.

She would almost certainly not get confirmed.

240 hazzyday  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:05:39pm

re: #56 mama winger

Seattle would like Lou Pinella back.

241 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:05:51pm

re: #228 CapeCoddah

Agreed, but he would tout it as a "serious medical condition", deny any other motive, and the press would bill and coo over him. The One would never admit to anything as human as a "Mistake". I agree, wont work, but, the Hildabeast supporters have been a thorn for him for a long time.

I don't think he could go along with it in the first place 'cause that would be admiting a mistake to himself.

242 WhiteRasta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:05:54pm

re: #239 Truck Monkey

I would not bet you a cold cup of coffee on that.

243 eon  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:06:19pm

re: #193 stuiec

I concur. What is missing in this is an accurate assessment of Hillary's mentality.

Put simply, she is both power-mad and cunning. She has no loyalties to anyone except herself, and sees other people simply in terms of their usefulness to her in her quest for self-aggrandizement. With this mindset, she's not about to do something "for the good of the Party" that would in any way adversely impact her own ambitions.

Both she, and the Messiah, are Marxists at heart. But there's a fundamental difference, even there; he's basically a Leninist, and she's primarily a Stalinist with overtones of Trotsky. He's the "organization man" who dreams of being revered as a "secular saint". She's the vozhd (boss) who doesn't care what anyone else thinks about her as long as they do what she tells them- and know what will happen to them if they don't deliver.

Even if offered such a "deal", she wouldn't take it, precisely because it essentially takes her out of the running for the center seat, which is what she has lusted after since she was matriculating at Saul Alinsky's knee. For her, being that close to grabbing the reins of power, but not having them in her hands, would simply be unacceptable.

As for Obama offering it to her, he may be inexperienced, fantasy-prone, and ideological to the point of detachment from reality, but I doubt even he is asinine enough to attempt a repeat of the arrangement that Vladimir Ilyich had with Uncle Joe. Or at least, some of his advisors probably have enough knowledge of history to remember how that turned out.

cheers

eon

244 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:06:48pm

re: #239 Truck Monkey

She would almost certainly not get confirmed.

Oh but the conformation hearing would be a riot to watch........

245 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:06:48pm

re: #218 Walter L. Newton

Well, then the bottom line is there is no magic formula. And take that from someone who has bounced from average to 424 pounds at one time. I've done it all. I've tried it all, and what I have done in the last 2-3 years has been the most successful.

This time was the first time I tried just plain old keep physical, don't put calories in your mouth and maintain, maintian. It's really that simple, hard for a lot of us, but simple.

He's an "easy keeper" takes very little food to keep his weight on - and so we walk and try to stay very active - I know few people who are as active - and eat as healthy a diet - and carry so much weight.

I even eat more junk food than he does - he eats almost zero junk food - and I;m super thin.

His pioneer ancestors crossed the plains to Utah - and so he can do a 10,000 calorie labor output on about 2000 calories. You can see the problem.

246 JacksonTn  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:07:12pm

re: #221 MandyManners

He likes Obama because of national security.

re: #336 hazzyday

Look, I'm an Obama supporter. I'm aware of all the talking points that you raise, and I respectfully disagree with you on all of them. I do not think Obama is a Marxist, I agree with his tax plan, I do not think that he is a corrupt politician and I think that he will be better than McCain for America where national security is concerned.

That is why this has to be a negative campaign. There needs to be a shock value to wake up his marginal supporters so that they can really ask themselves if they really agree with Sen. Obama?

The nature of their campaign is for the Republicans to decide. Character assassination alienates people like me, but then again I don't think I represent a large demographic...

I didn't come here to argue about politics or convince anyone of anything. I'm just expressing my sadness at what LGF is becoming. Take it for what it's worth.

247 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:07:13pm

re: #231 Intrepid

Not only that, but at all the PUMA sites I've read, every one of them have basically begged Hillary not to get on any ticket with Obama because they believe it will tank her chances in 2012. Their absolute rejection of Obama has turned them toward McCain and Palin in a big way (they're really getting active for the McCain campaign!) and will not vote for Obama even if Hillary is on the ticket.

And the rest of the country - particularly undecideds and independents - will absolutely see right through it and will not go for it.

Such a move would once again be telling us that they think we're stupid.

248 saltmarsh  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:07:30pm

re: #211 Irene NYC

Obama has a heart!

Not when it comes to babies that survive an abortion.

249 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:07:51pm

re: #236 WhiteRasta

I imagine Hillary pushing for a Supreme Court seat. She can do much more damage there.

She has neither the experience nor the acumen to sit on the bench.

250 BBEV  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:09:28pm

re: #215 Tigger2005

what thread?

251 alien_mind  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:09:48pm

re: #249 MandyManners

She has neither the experience nor the acumen to sit on the bench.

and i would also guess no desire to sit on the court either.

252 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:10:01pm

re: #246 JacksonTn

BHO would be the death of our national security.

253 wahabicorridor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:10:02pm

re: #245 DistantThunder

Has he had his thyroid function checked? Seriously.

254 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:10:25pm

re: #246 JacksonTn
You agree with a tax plan that will kill ANY economic growth, smash small business and generally wreak havoc on the private sector?

255 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:10:27pm

re: #231 Intrepid

Not only that, but at all the PUMA sites I've read, every one of them have basically begged Hillary not to get on any ticket with Obama because they believe it will tank her chances in 2012. Their absolute rejection of Obama has turned them toward McCain and Palin in a big way (they're really getting active for the McCain campaign!) and will not vote for Obama even if Hillary is on the ticket.

And the rest of the country - particularly undecideds and independents - will absolutely see right through it and will not go for it.

The PUMAs are not going to go for it. If the 0bama people have been keeping an eye on them at all, they surely know this move will backfire.

256 stuiec  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:10:33pm

re: #228 CapeCoddah

Agreed, but he would tout it as a "serious medical condition", deny any other motive, and the press would bill and coo over him. The One would never admit to anything as human as a "Mistake". I agree, wont work, but, the Hildabeast supporters have been a thorn for him for a long time.

This may shock you, but most Americans actually can and do think independently of what the press tells them to think. The press can call it whatever they want, but the people who Obama needs to win over will see it as total capitulation to the Clintons, abject weakness, and bad judgment. "Let's see: he can't stand up to Sarah Palin or Hillary Clinton, but he wants us to believe he's going to take on Osama Bin Laden, Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? Ri-i-i-i-ight."

257 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:10:48pm

re: #251 alien_mind

and i would also guess no desire to sit on the court either.

Right. She doesn't have the temperament to share power with eight others.

258 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:11:21pm

re: #224 Irene NYC

Why next week? Too early yet to get great bargains. For that we'll have to wait for a saturated market of "can't affords", like from 2 and 3 home-owning, over-leveraged families, or when all that sub-prime mortgage paper is gone through. No?

Depends on where you are I guess. I didn't hear the rest of his program, so I don't know exactly the point he made afterwards.

There are For Sale signs everywhere around here, and some have been there for a while now. Some speculative builders' houses are just sitting empty, some for four/five months. Big ones, nice ones.

259 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:11:30pm

re: #246 JacksonTn

He likes Obama because of national security.

re: #336 hazzyday

Look, I'm an Obama supporter. I'm aware of all the talking points that you raise, and I respectfully disagree with you on all of them. I do not think Obama is a Marxist, I agree with his tax plan, I do not think that he is a corrupt politician and I think that he will be better than McCain for America where national security is concerned.

That is why this has to be a negative campaign. There needs to be a shock value to wake up his marginal supporters so that they can really ask themselves if they really agree with Sen. Obama?

The nature of their campaign is for the Republicans to decide. Character assassination alienates people like me, but then again I don't think I represent a large demographic...

I didn't come here to argue about politics or convince anyone of anything. I'm just expressing my sadness at what LGF is becoming. Take it for what it's worth.

LGF has not changed - we've always had the same type of discussions. Obama just happens to be an exceptionally flawed candidate with some very DANGEROUS friends. Hence Obama is a very dangerous person who I believe is a COWARD at his core - and cannot make mature adult decisions. He does not place the same value on human life as the average Christian - and he has the Infants Born Alive fiasco to prove it.

260 funky chicken  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:11:48pm

re: #196 wahabicorridor

Welcome to Washington, the land of ruthless partisan ideology. She's young. She'll grow up one day. You are right about one thing tho'. She fucking hates McCain.

And many thanks to your husband and you for your service.

Bullshit. Nobody that cavalier about my husband's life, or the lives of thousands of his colleagues over there is going to grow up, IMHO.

Whatever pathetic bruised feeling she is nurturing toward McCain certainly doesn't excuse her wishing for Obama to win.

261 right_on_target  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:12:00pm

re: #175 CapeCoddah

I just got off the phone with a longtime friend, who is like a second dad to me. He called me to tell me about a conversation he just had with one of his longtime friends, who works with one of the campaigns. I never asked which campaign. Take this with a grain of salt, I am, but, my friend is no bullshitter, is one of the most honest people I have ever met, and so are the friends he keeps. He tells me that Obama will be having an "October Surprise", by which, Joe Biden will be dropping out due to "Health Reasons", an annuerism
and the Hildabeast will step in. Knowing my friend, and the caliber of his social circle, all staunch conservatives, I would not be surprised if it were correct, or close. I so hope it is NOT true.


----------------------
That would be about right. Biden the "straw man", to deflect any criticisms until Hillary gets back in and there won't be much time for the public to react.

262 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:12:10pm

re: #253 wahabicorridor

Has he had his thyroid function checked? Seriously.

Yes, nothing abnormal.

263 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:12:20pm

re: #241 MandyManners

True enough

264 wahabicorridor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:13:20pm

re: #258 Intrepid

Intrepid, where are you?

265 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:13:21pm

re: #246 JacksonTn

Where was this?

266 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:13:45pm

re: #246 JacksonTn


I do not think Obama is a Marxist, I agree with his tax plan, I do not think that he is a corrupt politician and I think that he will be better than McCain for America where national security is concerned.


And I respectfully would point out that if you can make this statement with a straight face, you have some serious issues. The first one being denial. The second one being uninformed. The third one being bad judgment.

267 stuiec  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:13:48pm

re: #255 Sharmuta

The PUMAs are not going to go for it. If the 0bama people have been keeping an eye on them at all, they surely know this move will backfire.

In fact, Obama couldn't do anything to screw his chances with Hillary supporters more than to offer her the VP slot as (pardon the metaphor) "sloppy seconds." She'd pretend to consider it in order to whip up her PUMA base into a frenzy of outrage, then decline the offer -- and thus ensure that Obama definitely lost all chance of winning back her core supporters.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone in the Hillary camp was privately telling Obama that he needs to dump Biden for Hillary -- just to set him up for the rejection.

268 williwonka  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:14:42pm

re: #193 stuiec

I don't think there is anything that Obama could offer Hillary at this point that would induce her to take the VP slot. It would lock her out of a run for the top job for 8 years -- she couldn't challenge Obama in his re-election bid while serving as his VP -- and at her age, those extra four years from 2012 to 2016 make a big difference. Far better for her politically to let him fall on his sword so that she can tell the Democrat Party, "See? I told you so!"

Bill Clinton is doing his part, saying nice things about Sarah Palin's instinctive campaigning abilities while damning Obama with faint praise.

And even making the offer is totally fraught with danger for Obama: Mr. "I Have the Judgment to Make Up for My Experience" didn't choose Hillary at the convention, but now wants her? Why not then?

Look I am tired of everyone inflating things. He already has an overblown ego. p Why inflate things further? Why say, "....fall on his sword..."?

Perhaps, "fall on his dirk."

Yeah, that works.

True his fans will say size dosen't matter.

269 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:14:54pm

re: #256 stuiec

Nope, no surprise to me, as I am one of them. The overwhelming number of stupid people, OTOH, bugs the shit out of me.

270 WhiteRasta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:14:55pm

Red meat, fire and beer. Time to do my duty!

Later!

271 Arkay  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:15:10pm

re: #63 Shay4l

Dead honest. Dead serious.

And I'm no Democrat sleeper by a long shot. GOP activist for 20 years; 2 years on Capitol Hill, 3 as a peacekeeper in Bosnia.

I think we're in seriously deep shit myself. Particularly if Congress doesn't pass this thing.

272 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:17:13pm

What the hell ... is the AW? Does it have multiple accounts?


re: #246 JacksonTn

He likes Obama because of national security.

re: #336 hazzyday

Look, I'm an Obama supporter. I'm aware of all the talking points that you raise, and I respectfully disagree with you on all of them. I do not think Obama is a Marxist, I agree with his tax plan, I do not think that he is a corrupt politician and I think that he will be better than McCain for America where national security is concerned.

That is why this has to be a negative campaign. There needs to be a shock value to wake up his marginal supporters so that they can really ask themselves if they really agree with Sen. Obama?

The nature of their campaign is for the Republicans to decide. Character assassination alienates people like me, but then again I don't think I represent a large demographic...

I didn't come here to argue about politics or convince anyone of anything. I'm just expressing my sadness at what LGF is becoming. Take it for what it's worth.

274 nigella  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:17:42pm

JacksonTN, I don't know enough about you to say too much, but LGF hasn't changed as far as I can tell. You must understand most of us think Obama is a dangerous threat to America. I can't speak for everyone here, but I am going to do all I can to see he is not elected. I can understand that you feel Obama is the best choice. I respect you, but I respectfully disagree.

275 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:17:52pm

re: #264 wahabicorridor

Intrepid, where are you?

Here! Here I am! (waves madly)

heh

(mid TN)

276 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:18:08pm

re: #259 DistantThunder

LGF has not changed - we've always had the same type of discussions. Obama just happens to be an exceptionally flawed candidate with some very DANGEROUS friends. Hence Obama is a very dangerous person who I believe is a COWARD at his core - and cannot make mature adult decisions. He does not place the same value on human life as the average Christian - and he has the Infants Born Alive fiasco to prove it.

I just deleted a long response because I didn't want to cross into a discussion on a topic Charles prefers that we avoid. I will simply say that I don't understand how anyone could argue that denying care to a BABY--a separate individual--can ever be legally or morally right because of the prior "intention" of the motherincubator.

277 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:18:14pm

re: #270 WhiteRasta

Red meat, fire and beer. Time to do my duty!

Later!

Good man..... Obviously a PETA (People for the Eating of Tasty Animals) member.... ;)

278 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:18:36pm

re: #274 nigella

JacksonTN, I don't know enough about you to say too much, but LGF hasn't changed as far as I can tell. You must understand most of us think Obama is a dangerous threat to America. I can't speak for everyone here, but I am going to do all I can to see he is not elected. I can understand that you feel Obama is the best choice. I respect you, but I respectfully disagree.

You certainly may speak for me

279 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:18:42pm

re: #275 Intrepid

Here! Here I am! (waves madly)

heh

(mid TN)

they have meds for that, you know !

280 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:18:57pm

Oh for Pete's Sake! They're coming out of the woodwork now on the Wright thread.

281 JacksonTn  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:19:22pm

re: #254 pingjockey

You agree with a tax plan that will kill ANY economic growth, smash small business and generally wreak havoc on the private sector?

Go back and read my post. I was posting something that AW said in the Rev. Wright Thread. I don't even like the way Obama combs his hair.

282 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:19:33pm

re: #280 Sharmuta

Oh for Pete's Sake! They're coming out of the woodwork now on the Wright thread.

who ,, the chickens coming home to roost ?

283 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:19:34pm

re: #246 JacksonTn

Please post the link to the post that you are quoting from!

284 hazzyday  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:19:44pm

re: #246 JacksonTn

Well after the election whichever one wins it will all settle down. Obama will bring us a recession via higher taxes and a big war by being weak. IMO though.

285 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:20:14pm

re: #281 JacksonTn

Go back and read my post. I was posting something that AW said in the Rev. Wright Thread. I don't even like the way Obama combs his hair.

I thought that was it. You about gave several coniption fits!

286 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:20:19pm

re: #283 MandyManners

Please post the link to the post that you are quoting from!

in other words ,, post the post of the post that was posted

287 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:20:41pm

re: #276 goddessoftheclassroom

I just deleted a long response because I didn't want to cross into a discussion on a topic Charles prefers that we avoid. I will simply say that I don't understand how anyone could argue that denying care to a BABY--a separate individual--can ever be legally or morally right because of the prior "intention" of the motherincubator.

Just borrow Mandy's clue-by-four....

288 JacksonTn  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:20:57pm

I am new here so I am probably not that great at copying and pasting posts. So sorry for that mistake but please make no mistake about it That was not my post. I was pasting something that AW posted in a previous thread.

289 nigella  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:21:02pm

Sorry Jackson Tn. Misunderstood you!

290 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:21:09pm

re: #276 goddessoftheclassroom

I just deleted a long response because I didn't want to cross into a discussion on a topic Charles prefers that we avoid. I will simply say that I don't understand how anyone could argue that denying care to a BABY--a separate individual--can ever be legally or morally right because of the prior "intention" of the motherincubator.

It is morally indefensible and even NARAL agreed. Obama is out of touch with humanity.

291 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:21:10pm

re: #286 sattv4u2

in other words ,, post the post of the post that was posted

You bruised my brain.

292 wahabicorridor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:21:42pm

re: #275 Intrepid

Here! Here I am! (waves madly)

heh

(mid TN)


*smack*

We don't have a lot of foreclosures around here (Northern Virginia) - but we do have one down that street that is selling for about 20% below market. If I wanted to be a landlord/property manager (and had the bucks) - I'd grab it in a heartbeat.

293 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:21:48pm

re: #279 sattv4u2

they have meds for that, you know !

Yeah, and they have tasty adult beverages for it, too!

Which reminds me - BBIAB!

294 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:21:56pm

re: #276 goddessoftheclassroom

Incubators? Liberal language is an abomination. For a while, waiters and waitresses in some of the lib cities were being referred to as waitrons.

Ugg.

295 itellu3times  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:22:11pm

re: #16 Arkay

Okay, howzaout this for a subject?

I have a well placd GOP friend on Capiol Hill who informed me yesterday that "The election is over. Obama is in." Why? "The trillion dollar bailout and the meltdown. The left will blame Bush and the right will hate the bailout."

That's the short version. Whaddayaall think?

Is said friend a confirmed moonbat anyway?

Trillion dollar bailout has blame enough for all, and Obama so far has only voted "present" on it, that's not the way for him to win anything.

296 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:22:11pm

re: #281 JacksonTn

Go back and read my post. I was posting something that AW said in the Rev. Wright Thread. I don't even like the way Obama combs his hair.

nObama has hair? You must be a racists for even noticing... Besides how could you even see it through his halo?

297 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:22:19pm

re: #266 Irene NYC

And I respectfully would point out that if you can make this statement with a straight face, you have some serious issues. The first one being denial. The second one being uninformed. The third one being bad judgment.

Ah, wait a minute, that is "AW" from a previous thread, not JacksonTN, who said that he doesn't think Obama is a Marxist. I had thought "hazzyday" must be an AW clone, but it appears hazzyday must have been responding to something AW said. Confusing!

298 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:22:26pm

re: #275 Intrepid

Near Murfreesboro?

299 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:22:31pm

re: #288 JacksonTn

I am new here so I am probably not that great at copying and pasting posts. So sorry for that mistake but please make no mistake about it That was not my post. I was pasting something that AW posted in a previous thread.

instead of cutting and pasting the content of the post, click the QUOTE and not only the post but the posters name and post # will appear. Then, under that, you can add your thoughts (thats the way I did this one)

300 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:23:19pm

re: #274 nigella

JacksonTN, I don't know enough about you to say too much, but LGF hasn't changed as far as I can tell. You must understand most of us think Obama is a dangerous threat to America. I can't speak for everyone here, but I am going to do all I can to see he is not elected. I can understand that you feel Obama is the best choice. I respect you, but I respectfully disagree.

It wasn't JacksonTN who made the comment you're objecting to, I believe. I think it was "AW."

301 stuiec  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:23:29pm

re: #243 eon

I think the fact that he won the nomination shows how naive he and his advisors are. The winning strategy would have been to come in a close second to Hillary, demand and accept the VP slot, and then wait for the results in November: a win would give him 4 to 8 years of VP experience, and a loss would give him the ability to say, "See? I told you so" to the Democrat Party.

Unfortunately for him, he won the nomination. And unfortunately for him, he's just arrogant and vindictive enough to have spent the two months leading up to the convention rubbing it in the Clintons' faces, and to have passed over Hillary for the VP slot. (Not that she'd necessarily have accepted -- but the offer would have neutralized her as an enemy within the party.)

As you correctly set out, the enemies you have to worry about most are the ones nominally on your own side, because they're in a position to convince you to drop your guard -- and then strike without warning.

302 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:23:55pm

new favorite bumber stickers:

"Caribou Barbie"

303 wahabicorridor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:24:27pm

Ok, 'zards, time to break out the evening libations. See y'all later.

304 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:24:37pm

"Single and Disease Free"

"Textually Active"

305 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:24:44pm

re: #294 Irene NYC

Incubators? Liberal language is an abomination. For a while, waiters and waitresses in some of the lib cities were being referred to as waitrons.

Ugg.

I refuse to call a woman who chooses a late-term abortion a mother.

306 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:24:52pm

re: #288 JacksonTn

I am new here so I am probably not that great at copying and pasting posts. So sorry for that mistake but please make no mistake about it That was not my post. I was pasting something that AW posted in a previous thread.

Yeah, I posted another of his posts in this thread too. You'll get the hang of it.

307 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:25:22pm

re: #305 goddessoftheclassroom

I refuse to call a woman who chooses a late-term abortion a mother HUMANE being.

308 itellu3times  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:25:26pm

re: #175 CapeCoddah

I just got off the phone with a longtime friend, who is like a second dad to me. He called me to tell me about a conversation he just had with one of his longtime friends, who works with one of the campaigns. I never asked which campaign. Take this with a grain of salt, I am, but, my friend is no bullshitter, is one of the most honest people I have ever met, and so are the friends he keeps. He tells me that Obama will be having an "October Surprise", by which, Joe Biden will be dropping out due to "Health Reasons", an annuerism and the Hildabeast will step in. Knowing my friend, and the caliber of his social circle, all staunch conservatives, I would not be surprised if it were correct, or close. I so hope it is NOT true.

Only if Obama also has a health issue, pulls a hamstring, and Hilda steps up to the front.

Also, of course, depends on the polls at that time. What if Obama/Biden is (heaven forefend) already ahead? What if Obama/Biden is already (please!) ten points and fifty electoral vote behind, would Hilda want to step in that?

309 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:26:05pm

re: #288 JacksonTn

I am new here so I am probably not that great at copying and pasting posts. So sorry for that mistake but please make no mistake about it That was not my post. I was pasting something that AW posted in a previous thread.

When quoting from another thread, click the number of the post. It will appear as a separate window. Highlight the url in the browser window thingy, then Ctrl.C. The, close that one, go to the comment box in the new thread, then hit Ctrl.V.

310 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:26:09pm

re: #301 stuiec

I think the fact that he won the nomination shows how naive he and his advisors are. The winning strategy would have been to come in a close second to Hillary, demand and accept the VP slot, and then wait for the results in November: a win would give him 4 to 8 years of VP experience, and a loss would give him the ability to say, "See? I told you so" to the Democrat Party.

Unfortunately for him, he won the nomination. And unfortunately for him, he's just arrogant and vindictive enough to have spent the two months leading up to the convention rubbing it in the Clintons' faces, and to have passed over Hillary for the VP slot. (Not that she'd necessarily have accepted -- but the offer would have neutralized her as an enemy within the party.)

As you correctly set out, the enemies you have to worry about most are the ones nominally on your own side, because they're in a position to convince you to drop your guard -- and then strike without warning.

I think his ego wants the position - but Obama doesn't want the actual responsibility of president. Send him back to Chicago with a years supply of waffles.

311 eon  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:26:30pm

re: #301 stuiec

I agree with you here, as well. In fact, when Obama lost Ohio, I said that he would be best advised to do exactly that. The fact that he didn't told me that he lacked both maturity and judgment.

/not that Hillary is exactly a shining example of either one, herself

cheers

eon

312 DistantThunder  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:26:37pm

re: #305 goddessoftheclassroom

I refuse to call a woman who chooses a late-term abortion a mother.

Mommy Sneerist

313 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:26:40pm

re: #305 goddessoftheclassroom

.

Er.... Ummmmmm

314 twincitiesgirl  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:26:46pm

This is strictly a drive by post. Please pray for these two guys, my daughter was crazy about Blink 182 when she was 12.

Blink-182's Barker critically injured in plane crash

/bbt

315 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:28:04pm

re: #299 sattv4u2

instead of cutting and pasting the content of the post, click the QUOTE and not only the post but the posters name and post # will appear. Then, under that, you can add your thoughts (thats the way I did this one)

JacksonTN was posting something from a previous thread, so that wouldn't have worked. However, JacksonTN, you can highlight and copy a post from a previous thread (post #, handle, content, and all), past it into a new message on another thread, make sure it's all highlighted, and click the "quote" function, then add your own commentary.

317 stuiec  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:28:16pm

re: #273 gmsc

Gee, can we now go after the tax-exempt status of every church and synagogue that's had a politician as a guest speaker? What about the unions -- are they fair game too? And the other non-profit charitable groups?

It was a bogus threat -- the IRS would not have done anything against the rally sponsors, and those sponsors should have stood erect and told the groups making the threat to pound sand.

318 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:28:22pm

re: #308 itellu3times

Good Point

319 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:28:51pm

re: #315 Tigger2005

ahhh ,, you kids and this whole interwebby thingy !

320 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:29:05pm

re: #273 gmsc

From CBS 2 HD:

Sources: Intense Pressure Led To Palin UN Snub
CBS 2 HD Has Learned Democrats Threatened To Attack Jewish Groups' Tax Exempt Status Over VP Nominee Invite


THIS IS ONE OF THE DUMBEST THINGS THE DONKS HAVE DONE TO THE JEWISH COMMUNITY F''' YOU HILLARY AND THE ASS YOUR RODE IN ON.

SHE COULD HAVE SPOKEN AND MADE IT A BI PARTISON ISSUE BUT NO SHE PUT HER PARTY BEFORE THE JEWISH PEOPLE

321 stuiec  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:31:17pm

re: #310 DistantThunder

I think his ego wants the position - but Obama doesn't want the actual responsibility of president. Send him back to Chicago with a years supply of waffles.

Oh, he wants the responsibility all right. He wants to remake America as a "better" nation. He's a very dangerous politician, all the more so because if he's elected, he's likely to have Pelosi and Reid running Congress. Think he has the judgment, experience or testicles to say no to their pet projects for reinventing America?

322 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:31:27pm

re: #310 DistantThunder

I think his ego wants the position - but Obama doesn't want the actual responsibility of president. Send him back to Chicago with a years supply of waffles.

Control without responsibility or commitment--that's my EH!

323 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:31:45pm

re: #308 itellu3times

Only if Obama also has a health issue, pulls a hamstring, and Hilda steps up to the front.

Also, of course, depends on the polls at that time. What if Obama/Biden is (heaven forefend) already ahead? What if Obama/Biden is already (please!) ten points and fifty electoral vote behind, would Hilda want to step in that?

re: #318 CapeCoddah

Good Point

I don't see it happening (Hillary stepping in for Biden a month before the election) There is no "UPSIDE" for her. She stays out, Obama loses, Hillary is the party favorite for 2012. She acceptes VP, they lose, she's in Edwards country (losing VP on the ticket, next time around not much support) She accepts and they WIN , makes it hard for her to run against him in 2012 in a Dem primary

324 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:32:38pm

charles forgive my shouting and anglosaxon english but the donks pulling out of the iran nuke demo upsets me

iran + nukes = ww3
an attepted second holocoust

325 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:32:50pm

re: #319 sattv4u2

ahhh ,, you kids and this whole interwebby thingy !

Back in MY day, we didn't have this fancy interweb thingy ... we had the Pony Express! And you shoveled horse shit and you waited months to get a letter and you LIKED it!

326 stuiec  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:33:46pm

re: #320 yochanan

THIS IS ONE OF THE DUMBEST THINGS THE DONKS HAVE DONE TO THE JEWISH COMMUNITY F''' YOU HILLARY AND THE ASS YOUR RODE IN ON.

SHE COULD HAVE SPOKEN AND MADE IT A BI PARTISON ISSUE BUT NO SHE PUT HER PARTY BEFORE THE JEWISH PEOPLE

What I sent yesterday.

To: 'malcolm@conferenceofpresidents.org'; 'howard.rieger@ujc.org'; 'rubinm@ujafedny.org'; 'millerm@jcrcny.org'; 'sgutow@thejcpa.org'

Sirs and Madam:

As a Masorti Jew (a member of [congregation] in [city], California), I am deeply ashamed that respected Jewish organizations succumbed to partisan pressure and rescinded their invitation to Gov. Sarah Palin to address the rally against Ahmadinejad’s appearance at the United Nations. Why would you allow partisan organizations to dictate policy to you?

Gov. Palin’s appearance at the event would have ensured a far higher profile and far more extensive media coverage of the event, leading to many more American citizens learning about the grave danger Ahmadinejad’s regime poses to the USA as well as our ally Israel. Given the misperception many Americans have that America engaged in the Iraq War only at Israel’s bidding, it’s essential that the American public understand the threat Iran’s regime poses to the USA and American interests, and not regard it simply as a parochial concern of Israel and American Jews. Disinviting Gov. Palin was a major blunder and failure to advance the agenda against Iran.

Best regards,

[stuiec]

327 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:33:56pm

re: #325 Tigger2005

Back in MY day, we didn't have this fancy interweb thingy ... we had the Pony Express! And you shoveled horse shit and you waited months to get a letter and you LIKED it!

LETTER !?!?!?,,, we got a TABLET !

328 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:34:44pm

re: #313 doriangrey

Er.... Ummmmmm

*blushing*

329 mama winger  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:35:23pm

CUBS WIN !

[Link: chicago.cubs.mlb.com...]


National League Central Champions!

THIS IS THE YEAR !

330 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:35:27pm

re: #327 sattv4u2

LETTER !?!?!?,,, we got a TABLET !

And god forbid they were long winded or you ended up with enough stone to build a room addition to the cave.......

331 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:35:37pm

re: #320 yochanan

Who actually made the threat? How? When?

332 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:35:44pm

re: #320 yochanan

THIS IS ONE OF THE DUMBEST THINGS THE DONKS HAVE DONE TO THE JEWISH COMMUNITY F''' YOU HILLARY AND THE ASS YOUR RODE IN ON.

SHE COULD HAVE SPOKEN AND MADE IT A BI PARTISON ISSUE BUT NO SHE PUT HER PARTY BEFORE THE JEWISH PEOPLE

Impressive article from the MSM on that incident. They didn't even try to cover for the Dems.

333 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:35:46pm

re: #326 stuiec

i already sent them a e-mail
frankly i don't expect much from the un elected uncle jakes that run the federation supported jewish groups.

334 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:36:26pm

re: #320 yochanan

THIS IS ONE OF THE DUMBEST THINGS THE DONKS HAVE DONE TO THE JEWISH COMMUNITY F''' YOU HILLARY AND THE ASS YOUR RODE IN ON.

SHE COULD HAVE SPOKEN AND MADE IT A BI PARTISON ISSUE BUT NO SHE PUT HER PARTY BEFORE THE JEWISH PEOPLE

Sorry, yochanan, but this is one of the dumbest things the Jewish community has done to itself.

Sleep with dogs don't be surprised if you wake up with fleas.

335 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:37:00pm

re: #329 mama winger

CUBS WIN !

[Link: chicago.cubs.mlb.com...]


National League Central Champions!

THIS IS THE YEAR !

i hope the cubs make it to the seventh game of the W.S. and that the CHICAGO WHITE SOX BEAT THEM.

336 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:37:02pm

re: #329 mama winger

CUBS WIN !

[Link: chicago.cubs.mlb.com...]


National League Central Champions!

THIS IS THE YEAR !

W00T!

337 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:38:18pm

re: #329 mama winger

CUBS WIN !

[Link: chicago.cubs.mlb.com...]


National League Central Champions!

THIS IS THE YEAR !

CONGRATS MAMA! I know what that feels like, and it is awesome!

338 mama winger  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:38:52pm

re: #335 yochanan

It's going to be a fun fun fun post season :)

339 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:39:16pm

re: #328 goddessoftheclassroom

*blushing*



Purrrrrr

340 JacksonTn  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:39:16pm

re: #309 MandyManners

When quoting from another thread, click the number of the post. It will appear as a separate window. Highlight the url in the browser window thingy, then Ctrl.C. The, close that one, go to the comment box in the new thread, then hit Ctrl.V.

Coming out from under the bed now ......

Thanks I was trying to figure out how to link to another thread but couldn't figure it out.

341 mama winger  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:39:31pm

re: #337 CapeCoddah

CONGRATS MAMA! I know what that feels like, and it is awesome!

Just once, before I die Lord. Once. That's all I ask.

342 eon  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:39:36pm

re: #317 stuiec

Gee, can we now go after the tax-exempt status of every church and synagogue that's had a politician as a guest speaker? What about the unions -- are they fair game too? And the other non-profit charitable groups?

It was a bogus threat -- the IRS would not have done anything against the rally sponsors, and those sponsors should have stood erect and told the groups making the threat to pound sand.

A similar threat was made by the Clinton administration in the 2000 election cycle, against any churches which "engaged in political activity"- that being defined as saying anything in favor of policies the GOP supported, or even criticizing the behavior of, for example, a certain sitting President at the time. The term "separation of church and state" being used as the justification for the "policy".

One unintended consequence of this, for the federal government, was that for the first time in U.S. history, churches declined to allow the U.S. Census Bureau the use of their facilities for testing of prospective census takers. Citing "separation of church and state" as the reason for the refusal.

cheers

eon

343 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:40:12pm

re: #334 Irene NYC

THE UN ELECTED UNCLE JAKES that run the federation sponsered groups are mostly DEMOCRATS to begin with.

there were things i disagreed with a unmentioned radical rabbi but one of the things he got right was the nature of the jewish extablishment in america remember the PRITZKERS (a old mobed up lawyer) and democrat big wig run the chicago jewish federation.

i don't blame the whole jewish comm. for these misleaders

344 sandspur  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:40:19pm

re: #329 mama winger

CUBS WIN !

[Link: chicago.cubs.mlb.com...]


National League Central Champions!

THIS IS THE YEAR !

Cubbies! Cubbies! Cubbies! Cubbies! Cubbies! Cubbies!

345 runrabbitrun  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:41:01pm

re: #331 MandyManners

Who actually made the threat? How? When?

yup - No source = empty claim

346 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:41:16pm

{Wahabbi} Check your email please! :D

347 mama winger  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:41:31pm

There may be drinking in Wrigleyville tonight.

348 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:41:52pm

re: #340 JacksonTn

Coming out from under the bed now ......

Thanks I was trying to figure out how to link to another thread but couldn't figure it out.

It took me a while to get the hang of things.

349 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:42:03pm

re: #327 sattv4u2

LETTER !?!?!?,,, we got a TABLET !

Written in CUNIFORM!

350 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:42:30pm

re: #332 Tigger2005

more than likely it is a pro obama faction of the msm and what to drive a wooden stake into the hildabeasts ♥

351 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:42:30pm

re: #340 JacksonTn

Coming out from under the bed now ......

Thanks I was trying to figure out how to link to another thread but couldn't figure it out.

That AW is something else. LGF is like Daily Kos because we're all dead set against a Marxist empty suit becoming President? Oh, but Obama's not a Marxist, he says, despite the fact that he's pals with a Marxist and attended a Marxist "church" for 20 years.

And he likes Obama's tax plan. I guess AW is a real "paytriotic" American.

352 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:42:35pm

re: #349 Walter L. Newton

Written in CUNIFORM!

We didn't have Cuniforms. We wore what we wanted to wear!

353 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:43:05pm

re: #345 runrabbitrun

yup - No source = empty claim

I'm beginning to wonder if there was a threat at all.

354 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:43:08pm

re: #341 mama winger

Just once, before I die Lord. Once. That's all I ask.

My mom's family is from Chicago. At my grandparents' 35th anniversary, the WHOLE family had a surprise party for them. As part of the program, my brother and our cousin (aged 9 and 7 at the time) dressed in White Sox and Cubs uniforms and sang "Take Me Out to the Ball Game."

Oh. how I'm pulling for the Cubs!

355 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:43:11pm

re: #345 runrabbitrun
Somebody had a linky on another thread to CBS HD2 , wherever channel 2 is! Of course CRS disease has bit me and I can't remember who, what, when or where, dammit!

356 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:43:31pm

re: #341 mama winger

When the Red Sox won in '04, I got a call from my 87 yo grandmother. The last time the sox won, was the year she was born. Same month. I got a call after the final game ended around midnight, she was whooping and hollering. I had never known her to care much about baseball, and was surprised b the call. She informed me she had been preying for it all her life like all of us, but never mentioned it out loud so as not to jinx. Coulda knocked me over with that proverbial feather. Took her to opening day, '05. She still talks about it.

357 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:43:40pm

re: #352 sattv4u2

We didn't have Cuniforms. We wore what we wanted to wear!

Huh? Do I need another Vicoden?

358 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:44:11pm

no GOATS, no curses JUST VICTORY

GO CHICAGO WHITESOXS

359 stuiec  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:44:13pm

re: #311 eon

Can you imagine the sheer will it would have taken, though, for a person as nakedly ambitious as Obama to be in the position to win the nomination and to turn away from it? Somewhere along the way, he must have convinced himself that he was, in fact, qualified for and capable of doing the job of President. I hope that loss of perspective will result in a fatal blow to his Presidential aspirations for good -- but I doubt it will.

360 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:44:24pm

re: #341 mama winger

Just once, before I die Lord. Once. That's all I ask.

Thats what my father (80 at the time) said about our beloved Red Sox. I figured he'd live forever! Now that they've won a couple, I worry about him DAILY

361 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:44:33pm

re: #340 JacksonTn
S'alright. At least you tried. I haven't yet. So it was AW who made that asinine statement.

362 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:44:49pm

re: #355 pingjockey

Somebody had a linky on another thread to CBS HD2 , wherever channel 2 is! Of course CRS disease has bit me and I can't remember who, what, when or where, dammit!

Yup, CRS is a terrible thing to suffer from, and I should... er, what was I talking about?

363 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:45:20pm

re: #357 Walter L. Newton

Huh? Do I need another Vicoden?

Here, try one of my percocets.

364 tripletdad  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:45:22pm

Why is there a DNC/Obama add in the sidebar? Refreshing won't make it go away!

365 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:45:30pm

re: #357 Walter L. Newton

Huh? Do I need another Vicoden?

C UNIFORMS

366 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:45:40pm

re: #362 doriangrey
Errr, ummm, huh? Whassat you said? Heh.

367 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:45:42pm

re: #356 CapeCoddah

'Scuse the typos, Preying/praying. Typing in the dark!

368 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:46:11pm

re: #355 pingjockey

Somebody had a linky on another thread to CBS HD2 , wherever channel 2 is! Of course CRS disease has bit me and I can't remember who, what, when or where, dammit!

It's the same one linked above.

369 mama winger  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:46:29pm

re: #354 goddessoftheclassroom

Look at this story , goddess.

The Cubs surprised a 104 year old man by giving him tickets to today's game, and then letting him throw out the first pitch ! In the article, he talks about seeing Babe Ruth play at Wrigley, and that infamous home run the Babe made....... LONNNNNNGG time Cub fan. God bless him - isn't he cute?

[Link: chicago.cubs.mlb.com...]

370 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:46:55pm

re: #359 stuiec

Can you imagine the sheer will it would have taken, though, for a person as nakedly ambitious as Obama to be in the position to win the nomination and to turn away from it? Somewhere along the way, he must have convinced himself that he was, in fact, qualified for and capable of doing the job of President. I hope that loss of perspective will result in a fatal blow to his Presidential aspirations for good -- but I doubt it will.

People like Obama just keep coming back. Everyone thought Hitler's political career was done for after the Beer Hall Putsch.

371 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:47:16pm

Walter

Glad to see you here and hope you have a full and speedy recovery.

372 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:47:24pm

re: #355 pingjockey

Somebody had a linky on another thread to CBS HD2 , wherever channel 2 is! Of course CRS disease has bit me and I can't remember who, what, when or where, dammit!

[Link: wcbstv.com...]

373 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:47:40pm

re: #343 yochanan

THE UN ELECTED UNCLE JAKES that run the federation sponsered groups are mostly DEMOCRATS to begin with.

there were things i disagreed with a unmentioned radical rabbi but one of the things he got right was the nature of the jewish extablishment in america remember the PRITZKERS (a old mobed up lawyer) and democrat big wig run the chicago jewish federation.

i don't blame the whole jewish comm. for these misleaders

Well, I do blame the majority of the Jewish community for continuing to support a corrupt Democratic party - because they are majority Democrats themselves. I am furious about the rally and even more furious that Jewish community leaders are so gutless that they won't come out and state what a disaster the leftwing-led Democratic party has been for this nation. But hey! I'm not surprised, this is just history repeating itself. As for supporting Israel against Iran - feh! Hillary's and Obama's feelings are more important.

/

374 mama winger  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:47:42pm

re: #356 CapeCoddah

Sounds like my kinda woman! Woo-HOOOOO !

LOL

375 looking closely  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:47:49pm

re: #175 CapeCoddah

As I brought up in another thread, Biden is concurrently running for re-election in the US Senate.

If he has to drop his VP bid for "health reasons" he'd have to also drop his Senate bid for the same reasons (or at least make himself extremely vulnerable to being overturned in an upset challenge)

Why would he agree to do this? Why, especially, would he do it, when he's a total egomaniac, and has been eye-ing the White House for at least a decade?

I just don't see it happening.

As to Hilary as VP, that's a desperation move anyway. There is still bad blood between the Obama and Clinton camps. I could see Obama TRYING to make that move *if* he were convinced he would lose otherwise, but right now he's ahead (albeit marginally) according to most polls. He probably still thinks he can pull it off, and he well may be right.

So I discount this "Hilary Switch" theory.

376 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:48:02pm

re: #326 stuiec
Thank you Stuiec, I hope our message gets through.

377 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:48:02pm

re: #370 Tigger2005

People like Obama just keep coming back. Everyone thought Hitler's political career was done for after the Beer Hall Putsch.

Yep, and Obama, like Hitler is in it only for the power. nObama is dangerous to our way of life.

378 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:48:07pm

Ok... out of here in a few, heading for the work. Thank all who have put up with my medical adventure this past week, and go Cubs (what have the Cubs done, I don't keep track of sports).

And Irene, thanks for the compliment, I'm looking at you, green eyes and all.

Walter in Golden, Co.

379 sngnsgt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:48:18pm

re: #369 mama winger

That's a heart warmer

380 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:48:39pm

re: #355 pingjockey

Somebody had a linky on another thread to CBS HD2 , wherever channel 2 is! Of course CRS disease has bit me and I can't remember who, what, when or where, dammit!

CBS HD 2 is the local New York City CBS affiliate (it's braodcast on VHF Channel 2)

381 stuiec  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:49:02pm

re: #343 yochanan

THE UN ELECTED UNCLE JAKES that run the federation sponsered groups are mostly DEMOCRATS to begin with.

there were things i disagreed with a unmentioned radical rabbi but one of the things he got right was the nature of the jewish extablishment in america remember the PRITZKERS (a old mobed up lawyer) and democrat big wig run the chicago jewish federation.

i don't blame the whole jewish comm. for these misleaders

I am hoping that a number of American Jews who were looking forward to hearing Sarah Palin speak will now see what Stalinists the Jewish Democratic groups are, and be willing to make a break with them. These Democratic groups are, after all, the same folks who now denounce Joe Lieberman as a traitor.

382 mama winger  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:49:04pm

re: #379 sngnsgt

That's a heart warmer

Isn't that great? He got out of his wheelchair to throw out the first pitch. I love it.

383 Florida Lady  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:49:04pm

Who wants to bet that Obama will say now that he's always been a Cubs fan?

/

384 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:49:18pm

re: #378 Walter L. Newton

Ok... out of here in a few, heading for the work. Thank all who have put up with my medical adventure this past week, and go Cubs (what have the Cubs done, I don't keep track of sports).

And Irene, thanks for the compliment, I'm looking at you, green eyes and all.

Walter in Golden, Co.

Take it easy and be safe Walter.... No heavy lifting mister.........

385 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:49:30pm

re: #368 MandyManners
Okay. Didn't go look. No info, or bum info Mandy? Or no specifics?

386 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:49:33pm

re: #375 looking closely

As I brought up in another thread, Biden is concurrently running for re-election in the US Senate.

If he has to drop his VP bid for "health reasons" he'd have to also drop his Senate bid for the same reasons (or at least make himself extremely vulnerable to being overturned in an upset challenge)

Why would he agree to do this? Why, especially, would he do it, when he's a total egomaniac, and has been eye-ing the White House for at least a decade?

I just don't see it happening.

As to Hilary as VP, that's a desperation move anyway. There is still bad blood between the Obama and Clinton camps. I could see Obama TRYING to make that move *if* he were convinced he would lose otherwise, but right now he's ahead (albeit marginally) according to most polls. He probably still thinks he can pull it off, and he well may be right.

So I discount this "Hilary Switch" theory.

I do as well. Ballots need printing and voting computers need reprogramming. Get too close to the election cycle and you won't have the time to do either.

387 mama winger  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:51:24pm

re: #383 Florida Lady

Who wants to bet that Obama will say now that he's always been a Cubs fan?

/

Hahahaha!

388 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:51:24pm

re: #386 Perplexed

I do as well. Ballots need printing and voting computers need reprogramming. Get too close to the election cycle and you won't have the time to do either.

oh c'mon. We all know that DieBold has already rigged the computers to register 2 out of every 3 votes cast for Obama to show as McCain votes !

/damn, I scare myself when I talk total moonbatty

389 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:51:35pm

re: #385 pingjockey

Okay. Didn't go look. No info, or bum info Mandy? Or no specifics?

No specifics.

390 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:51:56pm

Gotta' go feed the bottomless pit. bbl

391 eon  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:52:12pm

re: #355 pingjockey

Somebody had a linky on another thread to CBS HD2 , wherever channel 2 is! Of course CRS disease has bit me and I can't remember who, what, when or where, dammit!

Here's the link;

CBSTV HD

cheers

eon

392 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:52:22pm

re: #390 MandyManners

Gotta' go feed the bottomless pit. bbl

The Sarlacc?

393 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:53:00pm

re: #386 Perplexed

I do as well. Ballots need printing and voting computers need reprogramming. Get too close to the election cycle and you won't have the time to do either.

on a serious note ,, see my #323 on this

394 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:53:04pm

re: #373 Irene NYC

Well, I do blame the majority of the Jewish community for continuing to support a corrupt Democratic party - because they are majority Democrats themselves. I am furious about the rally and even more furious that Jewish community leaders are so gutless that they won't come out and state what a disaster the leftwing-led Democratic party has been for this nation. But hey! I'm not surprised, this is just history repeating itself. As for supporting Israel against Iran - feh! Hillary's and Obama's feelings are more important.

/

IRAN AND ITS' NUKE PROGRAM IS THE BIGGEST REASON I AM SUPPORTING JOHN MCCAIN.

and then there is the second major al quada attack on american interests this week.

395 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:53:04pm

re: #388 sattv4u2

oh c'mon. We all know that DieBold has already rigged the computers to register 2 out of every 3 votes cast for Obama to show as McCain votes !

/damn, I scare myself when I talk total moonbatty

You think you scare yourself... You ought to see the hair go up in the back of my neck when I joke about what I do for a living.....

396 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:54:24pm

re: #388 sattv4u2

oh c'mon. We all know that DieBold has already rigged the computers to register 2 out of every 3 votes cast for Obama to show as McCain votes !

/damn, I scare myself when I talk total moonbatty

Should be interesting when the riots form outside of DieBold headquarters. I just want a fair election without the crap from either party. Sadly, I suspect that the 'rats will attempt another Kennedy-esqe coup.

397 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:54:38pm

re: #394 yochanan

IRAN AND ITS' NUKE PROGRAM IS THE BIGGEST REASON I AM SUPPORTING JOHN MCCAIN.

and then there is the second major al quada attack on american interests this week.

Yes, yochanan, but you are in a minority. If the Jewish community came out and said, "We're voting McCain," that would be it. McCain would have NY and FL and the election would be over.

398 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:54:41pm

re: #392 Tigger2005
If hers is anything like my three, Sarlacc is on a diet compared to the black holes my boys call hunger. Sheesh.

399 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:54:45pm

re: #395 doriangrey

You think you scare yourself... You ought to see the hair go up in the back of my neck when I joke about what I do for a living.....

and that is ?

ME,,,,, I'm the guy that lies on the ground at a murder scene so the cops can draw that chalk outline !

(wha ,,, you think they leave the dead body there until the guy with the chalk shows up !?!? GROSSS! )

400 tripletdad  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:55:11pm

I'll be back when the Obama ad in the sidebar goes away - ugh!

401 sngnsgt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:55:28pm

re: #382 mama winger

That's awesome, when I played Little League Baseball, many years ago, I played catcher and caught several ceremonial pitches like that. I can't remember who now but it was fun to trot out to the mound to give the pitcher the ceremonial ball and get your picture taken with him/her.

402 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:55:58pm

re: #399 sattv4u2

and that is ?

ME,,,,, I'm the guy that lies on the ground at a murder scene so the cops can draw that chalk outline !

(wha ,,, you think they leave the dead body there until the guy with the chalk shows up !?!? GROSSS! )

Er.... Think government mind control ray devices.......... I make em.......

403 eon  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:56:49pm

re: #359 stuiec

Can you imagine the sheer will it would have taken, though, for a person as nakedly ambitious as Obama to be in the position to win the nomination and to turn away from it? Somewhere along the way, he must have convinced himself that he was, in fact, qualified for and capable of doing the job of President. I hope that loss of perspective will result in a fatal blow to his Presidential aspirations for good -- but I doubt it will.

My guess is, he'll be filed in the Dems' history books right next to George "We're All Socialists Here" McGovern.

Although it took Adlai Stevenson two tries to get the message that he needed more than the "smart, sophisticated, intellectual" people to win the White House.

/having all those "grotty groundlings" is what put Ike in over him each time

cheers

eon

404 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:57:01pm

re: #400 tripletdad
What obambi ad? I don't see it.

405 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:57:02pm

re: #402 doriangrey

Er.... Think government mind control ray devices.......... I make em.......

Say hi to Karl when you go to work on Monday.

406 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:57:03pm

re: #402 doriangrey

Er.... Think government mind control ray devices.......... I make em.......

cool ,,, so tell me ,,,, Reynolds Wrap, or will the generic brand of tin foil protect me just as well ?

407 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:57:07pm

looks like both chicago teams will be in the playoffs which should make one of my sons happy as he works at both of the ball parks selling beer

between the 4 males in my family 2 are cubs fans (heaven help them see the light) and 2 are REAL BASEBALL FANS GO SOX

JUST KIDDING YOU MAMAWINGER to me baseball is just for fun.

408 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:57:26pm

re: #404 pingjockey

What obambi ad? I don't see it.

neither did I

409 mama winger  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:58:48pm

re: #402 doriangrey

Er.... Think government mind control ray devices.......... I make em.......

[Link: mine.icanhascheezburger.com...]

410 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:58:54pm

re: #406 sattv4u2

cool ,,, so tell me ,,,, Reynolds Wrap, or will the generic brand of tin foil protect me just as well ?

ROTFLMAO...............Protect you.... Aluminum foil acts like an amplifier.... Every put Aluminum foil in a microwave oven?

411 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:59:01pm

biden PAY TAXES IS PATRIOTIC is the gift that will keep giving

by the way charlie rangel is paying your taxes patriotic?

412 mama winger  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 3:59:45pm

re: #407 yochanan


JUST KIDDING YOU MAMAWINGER to me baseball is just for fun.

fun ?

Fun? ?

FUN ? ? ? ? ?

THERE IS NO FUN IN BASEBALL ! !

413 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:00:03pm

re: #398 pingjockey

If hers is anything like my three, Sarlacc is on a diet compared to the black holes my boys call hunger. Sheesh.

I loved dill pickles as a boy. My mom would buy a jar of dill pickles and I'd finish them off in an hour or two. Drove her insane.

Then there was the time I was 13 or 14 or so and went with my aunt to this convention she was responsible for organizing. It was probably the 2nd or 3rd time I'd gone with her, and this time one of the events was a St. Louis strip steak dinner on the resort's lake boat. I'd made friends with the two boys of another attendee, one younger than me and one a bit older, but both of them bigger than me and more athletic. Anyways I had one steak, then another. Then their dad asked me if I wanted another. I believe I ate 5 or 6 St. Louis strip steaks that night, while my two friends goggled at me in disbelief.

414 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:00:06pm

re: #410 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO...............Protect you.... Aluminum foil acts like an amplifier.... Every put Aluminum foil in a microwave oven?

only to cover the dog when I dry him after his bath ,,, why ?

415 WindHorse  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:00:25pm

re: #409 mama winger

that was funny!

416 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:00:34pm

re: #406 sattv4u2

cool ,,, so tell me ,,,, Reynolds Wrap, or will the generic brand of tin foil protect me just as well ?

Actually neither will protect you now. Recent developments in quantum entanglement have negated the effects of covering yourself in foil. You get the mind control rays regardless of where you are and now with temporal displacement testing hitting the R&D areas, they can get you 30 years ago as well.

417 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:00:43pm

re: #414 sattv4u2

only to cover the dog when I dry him after his bath ,,, why ?

lol........

418 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:00:54pm

re: #402 doriangrey Reynolds wrap?

419 alien_mind  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:01:18pm

this made me nauseous.

Barack praises Michelle.

420 lowboy  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:01:30pm

re: #128 DistantThunder

EXACTLY! When I worked at Nordstrom years ago - I finished wrapping a gift package and turned to the next customer who was across the jewelry bay behind me - a black woman - who angrily asked: 'Are you telling me that you really didn't see me?" I was so shocked. I had been facing the other side of the store wrapping a package - I did not have eyes in the back of my head. There also happened to be a high cupboard island filled with jewelry in the center of the jewelry bay - and she was behind THAT.

I was mortified that she was so dellusional to think that I could see through cases and wooden structures. She could have EASILY walked around to my side of the cases to get my attention.

Talk about a CHIP on her shoulder - more like a boulder.

As I was walking around in WallyWorld today I caught myself thinking "Why don't they ever smile? All I ever see is a smirk or a frown..." Which is not true of most of the blacks that I work with, but it seems to be the norm for the ones in that WallyWorld...

421 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:01:33pm

re: #416 Perplexed

Actually neither will protect you now. Recent developments in quantum entanglement have negated the effects of covering yourself in foil. You get the mind control rays regardless of where you are and now with temporal displacement testing hitting the R&D areas, they can get you 30 years ago as well.

Well actually it's 27.9, but why quibble over small details.......

422 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:02:01pm

the most fun i ever had in a ball park was once i went to a cubs game and in the first inning the the other team had the bases loaded and the fubs pitcher proceded to walk the next 3 batters.

anybody want a bartman ball or a goat delivering a chezzeburger chezzeburger no chips

423 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:02:06pm

re: #418 willowone
as usual i am responding to comments slowly.

424 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:02:17pm

re: #418 willowone

Reynolds wrap?

Government Mind control ray devices....... ;)

425 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:02:53pm

re: #413 Tigger2005
Mwahahaha. We had tacos last night. Used to be one pound of hamburger was enough. Now one is 17, 15, and 8. So it is 2 to 3 pounds of meat plus I need to check with the city to see if I can get an exemption to keep a dairy cow or 2 in town. We are at almost a gallon of milk a day!

426 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:02:56pm

OT ,, anyone ever see the movie "The Mummy"? It's about to start and I didn;'t know weather to waste my time or not

427 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:03:04pm

re: #421 doriangrey

Always round up.

428 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:03:16pm

re: #424 doriangrey

Government Mind control ray devices....... ;)

But you can call it Reynolds wrap if you want to......

429 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:03:31pm

re: #369 mama winger

Great video, Mama. I was just trying to find a dunkin donuts commercial that aired here a few months after the sox won in o4. It was a silent commercial. It showed a man, sitting in his pickup truck, alone, at a red light, windows closed. All of a sudden, he started laughing hysterically, jumping up and down in his seat and pumping his fist. Then at the bottom of the screen, it said... " Still cant believe it"? It was a great commercial, and I cannot find it anywhere. Came out about 4-5 months after the win.

430 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:03:36pm

re: #426 sattv4u2

OT ,, anyone ever see the movie "The Mummy"? It's about to start and I didn;'t know weather to waste my time or not

The remake? It's quite good fun, actually.

/God, that sounded so British.

431 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:04:00pm

the last time the cubs were in the playoffs i went to the last game they won maybe i should go to this years game

HEHEHE

432 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:04:05pm
433 jorline  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:04:18pm

Sorry for the drive by post, but I couldn't pass this one up.

Sandra Bernhard: Palin Would Be Gang-Raped By Blacks in Manhattan

Now you got Uncle Women, like Sarah Palin, who jumps on the s--t and points her fingers at other women. Turncoat b---h! Don’t you f--kin’ reference Old Testament, bitch! You stay with your new Goyish crappy shiksa funky bulls--t! Don’t you touch my Old Testament, you b---h! Because we have left it open for interpre-ta-tion! It is no longer taken literally! You whore in your f--kin' cheap New Vision cheap-ass plastic glasses and your [sneering voice] hair up. A Tina Fey-Megan Mullally brokedown bulls--t moment.


Wasn't Sandra's only claim to fame being Madonna's slut puppy?

434 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:04:26pm

re: #430 Tigger2005

The remake? It's quite good fun, actually.

/God, that sounded so British.

1999 ,, Brandon Fraser (sp) ?

435 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:04:29pm

re: #425 pingjockey

Mwahahaha. We had tacos last night. Used to be one pound of hamburger was enough. Now one is 17, 15, and 8. So it is 2 to 3 pounds of meat plus I need to check with the city to see if I can get an exemption to keep a dairy cow or 2 in town. We are at almost a gallon of milk a day!

Mix some bread crumbs in with the hamburger.... It'll stretch the hamburger and the kid's will never even notice.... ;)

436 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:04:33pm

re: #424 doriangrey
i will run to the grocers for the duct tape : P

I'm a helpful conspirator

437 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:04:39pm

re: #430 Tigger2005

The remake? It's quite good fun, actually.

/God, that sounded so British.

Also ... I'm not sure if you're female or not ... but I've been told by several women that the guy who plays The Mummy is pretty hunky.

438 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:04:53pm

re: #298 MandyManners

Near Murfreesboro?

Nah - Springfield. (Robertson County)

My brother lives in Murfreesboro, though. Talk about a BOOM TOWN!

439 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:04:57pm

re: #375 looking closely

Just passin it on

440 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:05:06pm

re: #434 sattv4u2

1999 ,, Brandon Fraser (sp) ?

Yeah, it's a good movie. Good swashbuckling adventure and lots of humor.

441 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:05:24pm

re: #426 sattv4u2
Silly fun. Think Saturday afternoon B movies. The old Hammer films with Peter Cushing and oh damn, the actor who played Sauruman and Count Duku.

442 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:05:51pm

re: #430 Tigger2005

re: #437 Tigger2005

nevahmind ,,,,,, 1st 4 minutes and it looks lame

Ah well ,,, where's the remote !

443 stevieray  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:06:09pm

Charles:

What is the status of the Vista/Firefox/LGF problem?

I still can't log in to LGF from my laptop [Vista/FF] with any regularity.

One day it works fine, the next [like today] it takes 3 to 10 page reloads to get to the front page, but even then the "log in" won't log in, the "show top rated links" stays grayed out, and the headlines widget in the left side bar never loads... it just spins and spins.

Is there anything I can do from my end?

444 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:06:23pm

re: #442 sattv4u2

re: #437 Tigger2005

nevahmind ,,,,,, 1st 4 minutes and it looks lame

Ah well ,,, where's the remote !

Oh, no, stick it out. It's worth a look, really. I've seen it three or 4 times.

445 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:06:29pm

re: #436 willowone

i will run to the grocers for the duct tape : P

I'm a helpful conspirator

/government mind control ray device on..... This is not the duct tape you were looking for.....

446 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:06:40pm

re: #426 sattv4u2

OT ,, anyone ever see the movie "The Mummy"? It's about to start and I didn;'t know weather to waste my time or not

OH, I loved it!

447 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:07:04pm

AHHH ,, Biloxi Blues ,,, can't go wrong with Neil Simon !

448 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:07:35pm

re: #445 doriangrey heh, well i hope it comes in pretty colors at the least

449 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:07:35pm

re: #444 Tigger2005

re: #446 goddessoftheclassroom

OKAY OKAY ,,, gggeeezzz ,, back to The Mummy !

450 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:07:43pm

re: #446 goddessoftheclassroom

OH, I loved it!

pouts.... Brandon Frasier fan obviously......

451 debutaunt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:08:01pm

re: #325 Tigger2005

Back in MY day, we didn't have this fancy interweb thingy ... we had the Pony Express! And you shoveled horse shit and you waited months to get a letter and you LIKED it!

And I'll just bet they were fancy posh ponies.

452 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:08:43pm

re: #446 goddessoftheclassroom

OH, I loved it!

Betcha liked Arnold Vosloo in a short kilt the best.

453 CapeCoddah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:09:03pm

BBL, gotta go wash the cars we used for weddings today. I love being the boss.

454 eon  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:09:05pm

re: #411 yochanan

biden PAY TAXES IS PATRIOTIC is the gift that will keep giving

by the way charlie rangel is paying your taxes patriotic?

They don't call Biden "Joe the Mouth" for nothing. He can always be counted on to say exactly what the Dems really think- regardless of how much they'd rather the rest of us didn't know until it was too late.

As for Charlie, he doesn't seem to comprehend that in a period when his party's leadership is having trouble with its approval ratings due to their determination to ram their agenda down everyone's throats in spite of everyone else knowing how stupid it is, they have no "capital" left to expend to attempt to protect him when he tries to do a Capone on the IRS.

/William "Refrigerator" Jefferson made the same mistake

cheers

eon

455 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:09:11pm

re: #450 doriangrey

pouts.... Brandon Frasier fan obviously......

Oh, but he's just a SCREEN crush!

/actually, I've read that he's a great guy in real life. I hope so!

456 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:09:17pm

re: #435 doriangrey
Hah! Want to bet? These boys are Petans to the max. People Eating Tasty Animals. They know if I screw with the meat. Especially if I'm barbquing. Have their noses right there. Did a London broil about a month ago. The 15 year old saw that slab of beef and was doing a war dance in the back yard with made up lyrics!

457 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:09:47pm

BRB, got to go get another beer..... Any one need one?

458 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:10:11pm

re: #457 doriangrey

BRB, got to go get another beer..... Any one need one?

Oooo, I'd love a frozen strawberry daiquiri!

459 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:10:23pm

re: #457 doriangrey

BRB, got to go get another beer..... Any one need one?

Coors Light.

460 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:10:38pm

re: #433 jorline

Sorry for the drive by post, but I couldn't pass this one up.

Sandra Bernhard: Palin Would Be Gang-Raped By Blacks in Manhattan


Wasn't Sandra's only claim to fame being Madonna's slut puppy?

It's really quite ugly and racist for Sandra to infer that Blacks in Manhatten are gang rapists.

461 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:10:42pm

Republicans too can have great accessoriesre: #457 doriangrey
wine please (red)

462 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:10:54pm

re: #455 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, but he's just a SCREEN crush!

/actually, I've read that he's a great guy in real life. I hope so!

I've been told i look EXACTLY like him ,,, (except he's taller ,,, and younger ,, and has better facial features ,,,, and his hairline isn;t receding ,,, )

463 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:11:05pm

re: #457 doriangrey
Ya, you betcha! Tanks. Was hanging out with friends from Wisconsin.

464 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:11:17pm

re: #458 goddessoftheclassroom

Oooo, I'd love a frozen strawberry daiquiri!

Coming right up....

re: #459 Tigger2005

Coors Light.

Sure you wouldn't like a real beer? Sam Adams perhaps?

465 eon  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:11:31pm

re: #433 jorline

Sorry for the drive by post, but I couldn't pass this one up.

Sandra Bernhard: Palin Would Be Gang-Raped By Blacks in Manhattan


Wasn't Sandra's only claim to fame being Madonna's slut puppy?

That, and hosting Reel Wild Cinema on USA.

/always dressed worse than the "starlets" in the low-budget movies they excerpted when she was doing it, too

cheers

eon

466 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:11:36pm

re: #460 Meremortaljesus, you saw that also. i thought wow she hit both palin and AAs , what a jerk she is.

467 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:11:39pm

re: #460 Meremortal

It's really quite ugly and racist for Sandra to infer that Blacks in Manhatten are gang rapists.

When has being both ugly and racist ever stopped a 'rat from insulting anyone?

468 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:11:50pm

re: #460 Meremortal

It's really quite ugly and racist for Sandra to infer that Blacks in Manhatten are gang rapists.

But it's OK for leftists to be racist. And ugly.

469 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:11:59pm

re: #464 doriangrey

Sure you wouldn't like a real beer? Sam Adams perhaps?

Killians Irish red, if ya got one

470 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:12:05pm

re: #460 Meremortal
Sandra Bernhard is quite ugly and is stupid to boot.

471 Outrider  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:12:07pm

re: #456 pingjockey

Hah! Want to bet? These boys are Petans to the max. People Eating Tasty Animals. They know if I screw with the meat. Especially if I'm barbquing. Have their noses right there. Did a London broil about a month ago. The 15 year old saw that slab of beef and was doing a war dance in the back yard with made up lyrics!

Let 'em see you. They don't like it? Tell 'em, "Get a J-O-B."

472 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:12:49pm

re: #464 doriangrey

Sure you wouldn't like a real beer? Sam Adams perhaps?

OK, I'll take a Boulevard Wheat, with a squirt of lime.

473 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:12:54pm

re: #461 willowone

Republicans too can have great accessories
wine please (red)

Heading downstairs to open a bottle of red right now. BRB.

474 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:12:58pm

re: #463 pingjockey

Ya, you betcha! Tanks. Was hanging out with friends from Wisconsin.

Hmmm, I guess you'll be needing a cheese beer then....


re: #461 willowone

Republicans too can have great accessories
wine please (red)

Chateau de Rothschild 39.... no problem........

475 TheMatrix31  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:13:33pm

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but havent some absentee ballots been cast yet?

What would happen if Biden were dropped and Hillary was added?

476 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:13:59pm

re: #468 Tigger2005
I didn't see the video, but i had wondered if her Audience had a mind left to be insulted for women and AAmen.

477 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:14:09pm

re: #469 sattv4u2

Killians Irish red, if ya got one

Meh.... thats not real beer, but ok....... re: #472 Tigger2005

OK, I'll take a Boulevard Wheat, with a squirt of lime.

Oh.... Nice..... you got it.......

478 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:14:52pm

Geez, look at all those responses about sweet Sandra up there. If I was EIDE_Interface I could own this thread!

479 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:15:02pm

re: #471 Outrider
Heh. Actually they both have jobs. The 17 year old is working at Arbys, so that may cut down on the food bill. The 15 yr old is doing part time custodial work at the jr. high. Could have knocked me down with a feather. These are the boys that I have to get a presidential decree to clean their rooms!

480 DeathtotheSwiss  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:15:07pm

It's like they saw this election coming in 2006:

481 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:15:10pm

re: #459 Tigger2005

Coors Light.

You are dead to me.

482 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:15:11pm

re: #476 willowone

I didn't see the video, but i had wondered if her Audience had a mind left to be insulted for women and AAmen.

I started watching it...just atrocious. Don't bother. She's off her rocker.

483 Charles  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:15:18pm

re: #443 stevieray

Charles:

What is the status of the Vista/Firefox/LGF problem?

I still can't log in to LGF from my laptop [Vista/FF] with any regularity.

One day it works fine, the next [like today] it takes 3 to 10 page reloads to get to the front page, but even then the "log in" won't log in, the "show top rated links" stays grayed out, and the headlines widget in the left side bar never loads... it just spins and spins.

Is there anything I can do from my end?

Don't know what to tell you - I can't duplicate any of the problems that have been reported. I even installed Vista to check it out, and I'm having no problems at all with LGF in Firefox 3, or any browser.

484 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:15:22pm

re: #477 doriangrey


Meh.... thats not real beer

Perhaps not ,, but I think it's real GOOD !

485 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:15:23pm

re: #473 Meremortal
thank you.

486 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:15:45pm

re: #481 Occasional Reader

You are dead to me.

LOL

487 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:15:57pm

re: #474 doriangrey

Chateau de Rothschild 39.... no problem........

Okay, no kidding around now: you can take me out to dinner any time you want!

488 Outrider  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:16:17pm

re: #460 Meremortal

It's really quite ugly and racist for Sandra to infer that Blacks in Manhatten are gang rapists.

The liberals never quite seem to get it that their remarks are frequently racist in nature, but are overlooked or just not listened to. At some point in time, the average Black man or woman in the USA will break the code and figure out the Democrat party ~really~ aren't their friends and they are merely being used for political purposes.

489 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:16:22pm

I'm drinking a Dogfish Head Punkin Ale at the moment. Mmmm.

490 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:16:34pm

re: #481 Occasional Reader

You are dead to me.

Hey, I changed my order!

491 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:16:52pm

re: #482 Irene NYC
I had assumed as much, and she isn't part of my tribe! if so, i cast her to further reaches of well er er ...sewer.

492 ted  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:16:56pm

re: #476 willowone

I didn't see the video, but i had wondered if her Audience had a mind left to be insulted for women and AAmen.

The video is vile and disgusting . She appears demented and psychotic.

493 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:17:16pm

re: #459 Tigger2005

re: #457 doriangrey

BRB, got to go get another beer..... Any one need one?

Coors Light.

He said BEER, didn't you hear him?!

494 WindHorse  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:17:18pm

re: #479 pingjockey

....wow, I have two boys also - ages 17 and 15!

(and it sounds familiar!)

495 Josephine  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:17:25pm

re: #433 jorline

Sorry for the drive by post, but I couldn't pass this one up.

Sandra Bernhard: Palin Would Be Gang-Raped By Blacks in Manhattan


Wasn't Sandra's only claim to fame being Madonna's slut puppy?

Madonna the fake lesbian.

Bernhard's rant is pure ugliness.

496 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:17:26pm

re: #460 Meremortal

It's really quite ugly and racist for Sandra to infer that Blacks in Manhatten are gang rapists.

I think it was meant as an "inside" joke. Sandra and the Blacks against Sarah.

497 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:17:39pm

re: #474 doriangrey
Cheese is cheese and beer is beer. NO CHEESE BEER! Whatever you're having is just fine DG.

498 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:18:08pm

re: #492 ted I don't think she helped anyone at all. the text was bad enough.

499 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:18:32pm

re: #483 Charles

Charles, THINK FAST, what's your favorite beer? (Assuming your species drinks beer, maybe there's some sort of alien reptilian gene that doesn't let you metabolize it)

500 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:18:33pm

re: #493 Occasional Reader

He said BEER, didn't you hear him?!

I changed my order! Please, stop the waterboarding!

501 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:18:34pm

re: #494 WindHorse
Goldarn Mongol horde invades the kitchen!

502 rawmuse  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:18:42pm

Hey, Lizards, a drive-by post, just to say hello. I am very glad that Walter is up and around, I hope Dianna feels better tomorrow, and it is good to see Mama Winger back. I am having a very busy weekend, which is good for me.

By popular demand, the topic for tomorrow's TRIVIA will be sports.

Later.

503 Outrider  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:18:45pm

re: #479 pingjockey

Heh. Actually they both have jobs. The 17 year old is working at Arbys, so that may cut down on the food bill. The 15 yr old is doing part time custodial work at the jr. high. Could have knocked me down with a feather. These are the boys that I have to get a presidential decree to clean their rooms!

eh. A teenagers clean room is vastly overrated. They need a refuge. But, congrats on their jobs.

504 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:18:52pm

re: #498 willowone

I don't think she helped anyone at all. the text was bad enough.

She steeled our resolve.

505 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:18:59pm

re: #492 ted
Not appears....is.

506 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:19:34pm

Has anybody tried La Chouffe? It's Belgian and just fantastic. Best beer I've ever had not on tap.

507 CynicalConservative  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:19:39pm

re: #469 sattv4u2

Killians Irish red, if ya got one

isn't that just coors with food coloring?

508 Charles  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:19:45pm

re: #499 Occasional Reader

Charles, THINK FAST, what's your favorite beer? (Assuming your species drinks beer, maybe there's some sort of alien reptilian gene that doesn't let you metabolize it)

Duvel, or one of the other Belgians.

509 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:19:58pm

re: #503 Outrider
A refuge is one thing. a chaotic mess is another! Heh.

510 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:20:02pm

re: #500 Tigger2005

I changed my order! Please, stop the waterboarding!

It's beerboarding, actually... so why complain? Frat boys pay tens of thousands in tuition for this!

511 WindHorse  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:20:03pm

re: #501 pingjockey

Goldarn Mongol horde invades occupies the kitchen!

Thank God.

512 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:20:41pm

re: #508 Charles

Duvel, or one of the other Belgians.

So basically, you hate America, is that what you're saying?


/

513 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:20:47pm

re: #507 CynicalConservative

isn't that just coors with food coloring?

take a bottle of each and you tell me

514 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:20:53pm

re: #504 Perplexed
certainly mine.

515 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:21:21pm

re: #508 Charles

Duvel, or one of the other Belgians.


I have the same taste in WAFFLES

516 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:21:25pm

I've taken a vow to drink American, so that means no more Anheuser Bush. Mostly Sam Adams and the micro brews.

517 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:21:41pm

re: #511 WindHorse
Mwahahaha! Went through a whole box of 1/3 lb beef patties on the 4th of July. I have no idea how many teenagers invaded the house.

518 CynicalConservative  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:21:42pm

re: #513 sattv4u2

take a bottle of each and you tell me

I'll take your word for it, I'm a wine (whine?) guy for the most part... ;-)

519 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:22:07pm

please no beer (brand) fights.

520 ted  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:22:10pm

re: #498 willowone

I don't think she helped anyone at all. the text was bad enough.

The derangement of the left is mindboggling. First Bernhard, then Rangel. Being disabled myself, Rangel's remarks were the last straw.

521 runrabbitrun  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:22:11pm

re: #353 MandyManners

I'm beginning to wonder if there was a threat at all.

I'm thinking that there was a lot of pressure from the leftroots not to give Palin the primary spotlight, but without any emails or site directives from MoveOn or similar organizations as evidence, it'll have to remain a theory....

522 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:22:23pm

re: #501 pingjockey

Goldarn Mongol horde invades the kitchen!

I always thought the expression was the Mongol whores, and could never figure out what everyone was complaining about.

523 orson  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:22:45pm

Anyone seen this ?

Did Muhammad Ever Really Live?

A number of Islamic associations have put a quick end to their collaboration with a professor -- and trainer of people who are supposed to teach Islam in German high schools -- who has expressed his doubt that Muhammad ever lived. Islam scholar Michael Marx spoke with SPIEGEL ONLINE about what lies behind the debate and the historical person of the Prophet.

[Link: www.spiegel.de...]

524 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:23:11pm

re: #485 willowone

thank you.

Ah, back now. There you are, willowone. Today we are having Masciarelli, a dry red wine. The grape is Montepulciano d' Abruzzo. That means the grape is originally from Montepulciano but has been taken and replanted in Abruzzo (mountainous) where it grows a superior tasting grape.

Salut!

525 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:23:19pm

re: #522 Occasional Reader

I always thought the expression was the Mongol whores, and could never figure out what everyone was complaining about.

not enough money to spend on them !

526 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:23:30pm

Rule of thumb: Countries with warm climates make lousy beer.

527 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:23:30pm

Delirium Tremens or Celebrator is real beer...if you can afford it.

528 Charles  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:23:31pm

re: #512 Occasional Reader

So basically, you hate America, is that what you're saying?

What was it that tipped you off?

529 ted  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:23:38pm

re: #505 pingjockey

Not appears....is.

Thx...you're 100% right.

530 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:23:44pm

re: #517 pingjockey
uh hmm, i have a couple of those monsters and their friends.. i can spend 300 on groceries, 4 days later they act like we have nothing left

531 Outrider  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:23:49pm

re: #521 runrabbitrun

I'm thinking that there was a lot of pressure from the leftroots not to give Palin the primary spotlight, but without any emails or site directives from MoveOn or similar organizations as evidence, it'll have to remain a theory....

And yet, strangely enough, they are responsible for keeping her in the spotlight. And everything keeps coming up clean. They are their own worst enemy.

532 stevieray  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:24:04pm

re: #483 Charles

Don't know what to tell you - I can't duplicate any of the problems that have been reported. I even installed Vista to check it out, and I'm having no problems at all with LGF in Firefox 3, or any browser.

The annoying thing is it is hit-or-miss. Yesterday, everything worked fine; today, I can't get the log in or top rated links to work.

Is there any debugging utility that would capture the problem from my end? Something I can copy to notebook and e-mail you?

I've got Firebug and Live HTTP Headers plugins installed in my browser... would they help?

533 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:24:04pm

I know when the world is gonna end. Tampa Bay vs the Cubs. Game 7, bottom of the 9th, tied.

534 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:24:07pm
Coors Light

/save time, pour directly into toilet

535 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:24:18pm

re: #530 willowone

uh hmm, i have a couple of those monsters and their friends.. i can spend 300 on groceries, 4 days later they act like we have nothing left

Don't you love the "There's nothing to eat!"?

536 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:24:28pm

re: #512 Occasional Reader

re: #528 Charles

What was it that tipped you off?

tonights KOZ topic du jour

Charles Johnsi=on admits on OWN site he hates America

537 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:24:47pm

re: #522 Occasional Reader
Hehehehe! Clean up! Beer aisle!

538 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:24:48pm

re: #520 ted
I'm hoping that more feel like we do. i have seen Dems actually getting turned off by the ugliness of the "new party" let's hope it keeps up.

539 WindHorse  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:24:51pm

re: #517 pingjockey

....like Deli thin-sliced roast beef anything that evaporates!

540 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:24:55pm

re: #528 Charles

What was it that tipped you off?

Oh my God ... Charles is anti-American! I'm off to join DailyKos!

541 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:25:24pm

re: #492 ted


Hey Ted! Love your avatar. You keep eye out on that side and I'll watch the other.

542 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:25:28pm

re: #523 orson

Heads will roll over this one. Those muslim scholars are living dangerously questioning the existence of the prophet for profit.

543 Charles  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:26:05pm

re: #532 stevieray

The annoying thing is it is hit-or-miss. Yesterday, everything worked fine; today, I can't get the log in or top rated links to work.

Is there any debugging utility that would capture the problem from my end? Something I can copy to notebook and e-mail you?

I've got Firebug and Live HTTP Headers plugins installed in my browser... would they help?

If Firebug shows you an error message, it might help to know that...

544 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:26:11pm

re: #528 Charles

What was it that tipped you off?

The ponytail, for one thing.

We know your type, hippie.

545 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:26:19pm

re: #535 goddessoftheclassroom
truth, after i buy, later that night, i hear, "can we run to the store for (blank)" almost everynight, They are endless food mulchers.

546 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:26:33pm

re: #520 ted

The derangement of the left is mindboggling. First Bernhard, then Rangel. Being disabled myself, Rangel's remarks were the last straw.

Well in Rangel's defense, he really is a senile old fart. I mean I always hated his politics and he was as partisan as they came, but it is almost ( see how I said almost ) sad to see him degenerate in front of us. His friends ( if politicians have any real friends ) should get him outa there and make him retire to his condo in the Dominican. And that's about the best I can say about this fat senile bastard.

547 ted  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:26:34pm

re: #538 willowone

I'm hoping that more feel like we do. i have seen Dems actually getting turned off by the ugliness of the "new party" let's hope it keeps up.

It's really disgusting. Democrats are just full of shit.

548 Josephine  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:26:37pm

re: #495 Josephine

Madonna the fake lesbian.

Bernhard's rant is pure ugliness.

If Michael Moore and Roseanne Barr had a love child she would act and talk just like Sandra Bernhard does in this video.

549 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:27:01pm

re: #496 Irene NYC

Yes, of course you are right. But it does have an unintended bite to it, no?

550 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:27:07pm

re: #530 willowone

re: #535 goddessoftheclassroom

I caught myself channeling my parents the other day..."There is a fridge/frezzer/pantry full of nothing to eat". Gaaah, what they mean in kid speak is, there's no corndogs, burritos, etc...Junk to eat.

551 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:27:25pm

re: #549 Meremortal

Absolutely, MM.
;)

552 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:27:30pm

The beers I named were Belgian and Bavarian, so I guess I must be a EU-ophile.

553 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:27:44pm

re: #547 ted
It is seriously time for them to Clean Out their party, and Hard!

554 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:27:51pm

re: #332 Tigger2005

Impressive article from the MSM on that incident. They didn't even try to cover for the Dems.

I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw an article critical of the decision up on NYC's CBS2 channel website. They even quoted a guy who said he was switching his vote to the Repubs, and they didn't try to make him sound like an idiot or anything. They reported on the side of truth and common sense, without any gotchas, even when it was (theoretically) unfavorable for the Democrats. It was amazing. I should have taken a screenshot. :)

555 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:27:53pm

re: #545 willowone

truth, after i buy, later that night, i hear, "can we run to the store for (blank)" almost everynight, They are endless food mulchers.

We live around the corner from the grocery store. It's amazing how helpful my lads are with their, "Mom, can I get you anything from the store?" just about every afternoon!

556 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:27:57pm

re: #544 Occasional Reader

The ponytail, for one thing.

We know your type, hippie.

He rides bikes. That's so European.

557 Outrider  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:28:03pm

re: #544 Occasional Reader

The ponytail, for one thing.

We know your type, hippie.

Easy now. ;-)>

Proud member of Long Haired Freaks for McCain/Palin.

558 sngnsgt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:28:29pm

re: #548 Josephine

Michael Moore and Roseanne Barr love child

Now there's a sick thought

559 ted  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:28:41pm

re: #541 Meremortal

Hey Ted! Love your avatar. You keep eye out on that side and I'll watch the other.

Ditto !
America's hational symbol. I'm humbled by its strength, beauty and grace.

560 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:28:59pm

re: #508 Charles

Duvel, or one of the other Belgians.

Beer snob on isle 1, move over Charles cant you see I'm beer shopping.... lol...lol...lol...

561 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:29:08pm

re: #550 pingjockey

exactly. I am waiting to tell them about it when they have their own children.

562 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:29:19pm

re: #558 sngnsgt

Had to be done with artificial insemination.

563 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:29:31pm

re: #559 ted

Ditto !
America's hational symbol. I'm humbled by its strength, beauty and grace.

AND ,,, they taste just like chicken !

564 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:29:32pm

Charles, ever checked out the wares of Russian River Brewing Company? They're in your neck of the woods ("the woods" being America, which of course you hate, but leaving that aside for the moment), and make some superb brews. All things being equal, with beer, local = fresher = better.

565 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:29:36pm

re: #557 Outrider

Easy now. ;-)>

Proud member of Long Haired Freaks for McCain/Palin.

Heart Fans for Sarahcuda!

566 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:29:54pm

OMG! Channel surfing, Kirk is fighting a Gorn. Mwahaha!

567 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:29:56pm

OK, I'm back with the adult libations.......

568 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:30:13pm

re: #550 pingjockey

re: #535 goddessoftheclassroom

I caught myself channeling my parents the other day..."There is a fridge/frezzer/pantry full of nothing to eat". Gaaah, what they mean in kid speak is, there's no corndogs, burritos, etc...Junk to eat.

Urh, I still speak like that also?

569 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:30:29pm

re: #567 doriangrey

OK, I'm back with the adult libations.......

yeah ,, great ,, bit wheres our BOOZE

570 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:30:50pm

re: #550 pingjockey

re: #535 goddessoftheclassroom

I caught myself channeling my parents the other day..."There is a fridge/frezzer/pantry full of nothing to eat". Gaaah, what they mean in kid speak is, there's no corndogs, burritos, etc...Junk to eat.

Fruit, veggies, generally anything vaguely healthy is not "food" to those who are not old enough to supply their own pantry.

571 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:30:52pm

re: #512 Occasional Reader

So basically, you hate America, is that what you're saying?


/

No, he's saying he has taste. Which is the same as hating America

-n beer.

/unfair but often true

572 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:30:55pm

re: #555 goddessoftheclassroom
They have become quite expensive and Needy. My oldest two have moved out and come back saying sheesh everything is so expensive while raiding my fridge, using my washer.

573 jorline  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:31:16pm

re: #483 Charles

Don't know what to tell you - I can't duplicate any of the problems that have been reported. I even installed Vista to check it out, and I'm having no problems at all with LGF in Firefox 3, or any browser.

I'm running Vista/Foxfire 3 with no problems.

Another great new look and function, Charles...thanks.

574 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:31:17pm

re: #567 doriangrey
Ahhhhhh. Thank you.

575 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:31:19pm

re: #553 willowone

It is seriously time for them to Clean Out their party, and Hard!


I don't know how it will happen. Look at Lieberman in CT. The Dems ran Ned Lamont against him, a multi-millionaire going back 2 generations, a communist supporter (also going back 2 generations). Look at the Chicago team backing Obama - rich, influential and well connected. Who's going to throw them out? They've got the Soros', Heinz-Kerry's, etc. A bunch of fabulously wealthy people whose lives revolve around leftwing politics.

The Dems are going to have to implode. And it doesn't look like it's going to be happening any time soon.

576 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:31:40pm

re: #571 Pawn of the Oppressor

No, he's saying he has taste. Which is the same as hating America

-n beer.

/unfair but often true

Slowly. I. Turned.

If we were having this conversation in 1983, your observation would be spot on. But we're not...

577 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:31:41pm

re: #569 sattv4u2 that was why He was gone so long, He drank it all! i just know it!

578 alien_mind  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:31:57pm

re: #548 Josephine

by god you've nailed it.

579 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:32:18pm

re: #570 David IV of Georgia
The fruit is an exception. They do like their fruit. Veggies not so much.

580 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:32:20pm

re: #569 sattv4u2

yeah ,, great ,, bit wheres our BOOZE

Says the guy who ordered a Coors.....

581 eon  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:32:47pm

re: #566 pingjockey

OMG! Channel surfing, Kirk is fighting a Gorn. Mwahaha!

"Arena". Year 1. based on a story by Fredric Brown.

/yes, I'm a geek

cheers

eon

582 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:32:57pm

re: #575 Irene NYC
I'm praying for it anyway, As this New Party will destroy America. ok maybe i'm paranoid but.. i think i'm right.

583 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:32:59pm

re: #580 doriangrey

Says the guy who ordered a Coors.....

NUH UH !

584 victor_yugo  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:33:28pm

Charles, FWIW, I prefer the old look of the buttons. Is there any chance this can be a configurable option?

585 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:33:48pm

re: #580 doriangrey

Says the guy who ordered a Coors.....

truth be told ,,,, i'm a Vodka Martini guy ,,,, but I'm still, at work ,,so a beer will have to do !

586 ted  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:33:52pm

re: #546 Nevergiveup

Well in Rangel's defense, he really is a senile old fart. I mean I always hated his politics and he was as partisan as they came, but it is almost ( see how I said almost ) sad to see him degenerate in front of us. His friends ( if politicians have any real friends ) should get him outa there and make him retire to his condo in the Dominican. And that's about the best I can say about this fat senile bastard.

Yes, but, this is about as low as one can get. I had to overcome alot to have accomplished what I have. SOB's like Rangel detract from that by their miserable, patronizing insults. Typical of Dems.

587 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:33:58pm

re: #556 Tigger2005

He rides bikes. That's so European.

OMG! Obama rides a bike!

I tell ya, Elvis is dead, and I don't feel so good myself.

588 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:33:58pm

re: #581 eon
That's allright. It isn't like you support Hugo or Fidel!

589 stevieray  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:34:00pm

re: #543 Charles

If Firebug shows you an error message, it might help to know that...

Okay... I will see what it says.

BBIAM

590 Josephine  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:34:03pm

re: #523 orson

Anyone seen this ?

Did Muhammad Ever Really Live?

A number of Islamic associations have put a quick end to their collaboration with a professor -- and trainer of people who are supposed to teach Islam in German high schools -- who has expressed his doubt that Muhammad ever lived. Islam scholar Michael Marx spoke with SPIEGEL ONLINE about what lies behind the debate and the historical person of the Prophet.

[Link: www.spiegel.de...]

They keep saying, "the Prophet", "the Prophet", "the Prophet".

Why don't articles about Jesus say, "the Messiah", "the Messiah", "the Messiah"?

591 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:34:28pm

re: #576 Occasional Reader

Slowly. I. Turned.

If we were having this conversation in 1983, your observation would be spot on. But we're not...

Someone was telling me about this beer brewed in Pennsylvania, which is only distributed in 10 states on the Eastern seaboard, but now I can't remember what it's called ... ring any bells?

592 ted  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:34:33pm

re: #563 sattv4u2

AND ,,, they taste just like chicken !

That too !

593 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:34:46pm

For all you Beatle fans out there:

Historic McCartney concert in Tel Aviv to be televised live on Channel 10 (Haaretz)

That is of you have satilite tv and can get Israel channel 10?

594 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:34:48pm

re: #508 Charles

Duvel, or one of the other Belgians.

A local store has a 3L bottle of Duvel for $85 (=six 12oz. bottles).

595 tokyobk  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:35:24pm

I think the Woody Allen endorsement of Obama tells me more about where this is going than any poll.

The vast majority of Americans are not ready to be post-moral socialists like Europe (which owes its very existence to the basic good sense of average Americans anyway).

Woody Allen, has an affair with his son's sister and a girl being raised by his wife in a shared household, and takes her as his wife. Lecturing Americans about shame.

If only he had any.

596 ted  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:35:36pm

re: #553 willowone

It is seriously time for them to Clean Out their party, and Hard!

Call the septic tank man.

597 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:35:41pm

re: #594 David IV of Georgia

A local store has a 3L bottle of Duvel for $85 (=six 12oz. bottles).

I pay $85 for a drink it better come with a lap dance !

598 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:35:41pm

re: #593 Nevergiveup

For all you Beatle fans out there:

Historic McCartney concert in Tel Aviv to be televised live on Channel 10 (Haaretz)

That is of you have satilite tv and can get Israel channel 10?

I hope they have VERY good security.

You go, Paul.

599 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:35:49pm

re: #585 sattv4u2

truth be told ,,,, i'm a Vodka Martini guy ,,,, but I'm still, at work ,,so a beer will have to do !

You Air Traffic Controllers are all alike...

600 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:36:12pm

Now that I think about it...

It is past strange that the #1 blog for us Eeeevil Reich-Wingers, KKKonservatives, unafilliateds, Libertarians, and other assorted non-Democrat rif-raff is run by a long-haired, bike-ridding, Belgian-beer-drinking jazz musician.

What about the other big blogs on both sides?

DU: I have no idea who runs it, except that they're probably just barely sane enough to operate a computer.

Kos: Former Army. I have no idea what he does for a day job.

Huffington: Wealthy. Journalist or something? Never paid attention, I just know that she married rich.

At first glance it appears that "they" fit their stereotype of "us" better than we actually do.

601 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:36:44pm

re: #559 ted

Ditto !
America's hational symbol. I'm humbled by its strength, beauty and grace.

Sometimes in the winter they fly right over me when I'm by the river behind my mountain place in Colorado. Sends shivers right up the spine!

602 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:36:54pm

re: #599 Occasional Reader

You Air Traffic Controllers are all alike...

what do you mean?

(no Bill ,,, thats just a fly on the screen ,,,,, there's NO way I put those two planes ojn the same ,,, ummm,,,, UH OH ,.)

BRB

603 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:36:54pm

re: #581 eon

"Arena". Year 1. based on a story by Fredric Brown.

/yes, I'm a geek

cheers

eon

I've read the story.

Does that make me a geek?

604 nyc redneck  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:37:00pm

re: #548 Josephine

If Michael Moore and Roseanne Barr had a love child she would act and talk just like Sandra Bernhard does in this video.

this is the most attention she has had since madonna 'dumped' her.
what a wretched unattractive person.

605 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:37:03pm

re: #589 stevieray

I'm running FF3 through Vista on a new Dell and I'm having no trouble at all.

It's the IE at work that I have some issues with.

FF3 even remembers me after I log in elsewhere. Didn't do that on my old computer.

606 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:37:17pm

i enjoy the new buttons, less likely to make a mistake. however, i'm still a square peg in your rounded box world.

607 victor_yugo  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:37:23pm

re: #597 sattv4u2

I pay $85 for a drink it better come with a lap dance !

How about a drink and a slap across the face from MandyManners?

608 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:37:32pm

re: #596 ted
amen.

609 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:37:49pm

re: #595 tokyobk

I think the Woody Allen endorsement of Obama tells me more about where this is going than any poll.

The vast majority of Americans are not ready to be post-moral socialists like Europe (which owes its very existence to the basic good sense of average Americans anyway).

Woody Allen, has an affair with his son's sister and a girl being raised by his wife in a shared household, and takes her as his wife. Lecturing Americans about shame.

If only he had any.

Why didn't he just stick to making funny movies, and quit when he lost the knack? And then shut up?

"Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Sex (But Were Afraid to Ask)" is hilarious.

610 runrabbitrun  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:37:59pm

re: #531 Outrider

And yet, strangely enough, they are responsible for keeping her in the spotlight. And everything keeps coming up clean. They are their own worst enemy.

heh - the fuzzy bunny spiritual seekers thereby learn the true meaning of the word 'karma'. Nothing to do with 'deserving' some heaven-directed reward or punishment; and everything to do with the nature of action: you throw a stone into the pond, and you get to guess how the unavoidable ripple comes back at'cha =)

611 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:37:59pm

re: #599 Occasional Reader

You Air Traffic Controllers are all alike...

Which reminds me of why I dont fly.......

612 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:37:59pm

re: #586 ted

Yes, but, this is about as low as one can get. I had to overcome alot to have accomplished what I have. SOB's like Rangel detract from that by their miserable, patronizing insults. Typical of Dems.

I hope you don't really think I was trying to defend ( even though I used a version of that word ) him. I was trying to damn him with as little praise as possible. And I thought my use of " fat senile bastard" should have given it away.

613 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:38:00pm

re: #607 victor_yugo

How about a drink and a slap across the face from MandyManners?

I get those for free!

614 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:38:05pm

re: #582 willowone

I'm praying for it anyway, As this New Party will destroy America. ok maybe i'm paranoid but.. i think i'm right.


I agree 150%. They already have quite a head start.

615 lowboy  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:38:10pm

re: #435 doriangrey

Mix some bread crumbs in with the hamburger.... It'll stretch the hamburger and the kid's will never even notice.... ;)

Or some TVP (textured vegetable protein).

616 ted  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:38:16pm

re: #601 Meremortal

Sometimes in the winter they fly right over me when I'm by the river behind my mountain place in Colorado. Sends shivers right up the spine!

Such majestic birds.

617 victor_yugo  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:39:07pm

re: #600 Pawn of the Oppressor

Now that I think about it...

It is past strange that the #1 blog for us Eeeevil Reich-Wingers, KKKonservatives, unafilliateds, Libertarians, and other assorted non-Democrat rif-raff is run by a long-haired, bike-ridding, Belgian-beer-drinking jazz musician.

You forgot the most important: "Computer programmer and web designer"!

618 Josephine  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:39:13pm

re: #558 sngnsgt

Now there's a sick thought

Sorry about that.

Did you watch the video? The downward-looking eyes = Michael Moore. The apparent mental illness + vulgarity = Roseanne Barr.

619 ArmyWife  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:39:22pm

re: #591 Tigger2005

Yingling?

620 nyc redneck  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:39:26pm

re: #593 Nevergiveup

For all you Beatle fans out there:

Historic McCartney concert in Tel Aviv to be televised live on Channel 10 (Haaretz)

That is of you have satilite tv and can get Israel channel 10?

yay,
i'm so glad he refused to give in to threats from the jihadis.

621 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:39:27pm

re: #598 Tigger2005

I hope they have VERY good security.

You go, Paul.

Oh they have excellent security.

622 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:39:51pm

re: #619 ArmyWife

Yingling?

Yes! Although I think it's Yungling?

623 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:40:56pm

re: #622 Tigger2005

Yes! Although I think it's Yungling?

only to his closest freinds

624 victor_yugo  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:41:25pm

re: #609 Tigger2005

"Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Sex (But Were Afraid to Ask)" is hilarious.

Don't forget "Sleeper." Strangely prophetic on some of the stranger aspects of society.

And, unlike Big Mo's prophecies, these are coming true!

625 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:41:42pm

re: #619 ArmyWife

Yingling?

I like Yuengling—might have something to do with the 50¢ glasses on Thursday I used to get in Waymart at some hotel.

626 eon  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:42:10pm

Well, it's been fun as always, Lizards.

Time for me to kick back and off. Trying to decide what movie to watch tonight.

/or maybe just a couple of episodes of Monty Python's Flying Circus

Good night, Lizards.

Sleep tight.

cheers

eon

627 ArmyWife  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:42:31pm

re: #622 Tigger2005

Its yuenling, pronouced yingling. The original brewery shares a driveway with a Catholic Church.

628 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:42:34pm

re: #590 Josephine

They keep saying, "the Prophet", "the Prophet", "the Prophet".

Why don't articles about Jesus say, "the Messiah", "the Messiah", "the Messiah"?

Because they are im tank fur Islam. So is a good portion of their audience.

There are some interesting articles floating around about how people who actually try to study the Koran as a document are quickly threatened off the trail by, shall we say, "cultural pressures". There exist early copies of the book which are different from the current copy, stuff is left out, missing, worded different, etc. and of course all this contradicts their view that the book is the unaltered word of their god. I want to say there was a scholar in Yemen who was trying to get funding to study some early Koran copies, but he's not making any headway.

I wish I could remember where I read this article. I'm terrible with detailed recall. Googling for "early copies of Koran" would probably yield results.

629 Josephine  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:42:34pm

re: #576 Occasional Reader

Slowly. I. Turned.

Divine, is that you?

630 ArmyWife  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:42:59pm

yuenGling

631 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:43:04pm

re: #624 victor_yugo

Don't forget "Sleeper." Strangely prophetic on some of the stranger aspects of society.

And, unlike Big Mo's prophecies, these are coming true!

So someday, they'll be trying to clone 0bama from the remains of his nose?

632 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:43:13pm

Olmert to inform ministers Sunday that he's resigning
Published: 09.21.08, 00:24 / Israel News
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is expected to notify cabinet ministers of his resignation Sunday morning. However, at this time it's unclear when the PM intends to tender his resignation to President Shimon Peres in order to officially finalize the resignation procedure. (Roni Sofer)

Yeah, but when exactly does that mean he gets his skinny whinny ass out of office?

633 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:43:14pm

re: #608 willowone

Your wine is waiting back at #524. Hope you like it.

634 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:43:20pm

re: #609 Tigger2005

re: #624 victor_yugo

Bananas and Zelig ,,,, and IMHO he hasn;'t made a good movies since 1987 ( Radio Days)

635 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:43:22pm

re: #622 Tigger2005

Yes! Although I think it's Yungling?

Yuengling. We get it here in DC, too. It's fine, I wouldn't rate it as spectacular.

636 KZnextzone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:43:31pm

RE: Biden October surprise:
Maybe he'll chamber a round backwards in his Beretta.

I had to laugh when I saw he stopped rooting for the Colts when they moved to Baltimore.
Watching them pack out and move at midnight was the reason I had to find a new team to replace "ayone but the skins" when I was in High School in Fairfax County!
I went with the Seahawks....
I hope my political team is better!
Go McCain Palin 08!

637 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:43:44pm
638 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:43:55pm

re: #624 victor_yugo

Don't forget "Sleeper." Strangely prophetic on some of the stranger aspects of society.

And, unlike Big Mo's prophecies, these are coming true!

I want my Orgasmatron!

639 eon  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:44:00pm

re: #603 Occasional Reader

I've read the story.

Does that make me a geek?

Probably, but for serious geekdom you have to have read What Mad Universe. ;-)
Night, everybody.

cheers

eon

640 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:44:14pm

re: #632 Nevergiveup

Olmert to inform ministers Sunday that he's resigning
Published: 09.21.08, 00:24 / Israel News
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is expected to notify cabinet ministers of his resignation Sunday morning. However, at this time it's unclear when the PM intends to tender his resignation to President Shimon Peres in order to officially finalize the resignation procedure. (Roni Sofer)

Yeah, but when exactly does that mean he gets his skinny whinny ass out of office?

He gets replaced by Livni, who is only barely less eager to give away Israel.

641 JacksonTn  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:44:26pm

re: #419 alien_mind

this made me nauseous.

Barack praises Michelle.

Well, speak for yourself Obama, Mecho is not like this woman

[Link: www.championnews.net...]

642 sngnsgt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:45:28pm

re: #562 Perplexed

They're both artificial

643 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:46:05pm

re: #640 Kosh's Shadow

He gets replaced by Livni, who is only barely less eager to give away Israel.

Yeah, I know. Did you read this:


Barak, Bibi meet; Livni's associates upset

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Maybe there is hope?

644 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:46:17pm

re: #633 Meremortal wonderful, i had thought i was long forgotten. thank you ,thank you

645 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:46:33pm

Yuengling is one of those beers noted for the fact that there is nothing wrong with it.
It's not too bitter.
Not too sweet.
Not too hoppy.
Not too fizzy.
Not too bland.
Not too bad...

646 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:47:43pm

re: #645 David IV of Georgia

Yuengling is one of those beers noted for the fact that there is nothing wrong with it.
It's not too bitter.
Not too sweet.
Not too hoppy.
Not too fizzy.
Not too bland.
Not too bad...

Not to foreign.

647 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:47:53pm

re: #644 willowone

My distinct pleasure (bows low).

648 Josephine  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:48:02pm

re: #578 alien_mind

by god you've nailed it.

LOL, why thank you.

649 rosh  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:48:08pm

Have any of you used Spinoculars yet?

650 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:48:26pm

The Oktoberfest has started!

/let the public urination begin!

651 sngnsgt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:48:31pm

re: #618 Josephine

Ugh, can you imagine the off-spring from that relationship? Makes me sick just thinking about it!

652 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:49:19pm

re: #644 willowone

wonderful, i had thought i was long forgotten. thank you ,thank you

And here I go to all the trouble of bringing you a Chateau de Rothschild 39.... I guess I'll just give it to Goddess, at least she knows a good wine when she tastes it....

653 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:49:59pm

re: #650 Killian Bundy

The Oktoberfest has started!

/let the public urination begin!

How many pairs of shoes must be thrown up on and ruined before they stop this madness ?

654 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:50:30pm

re: #650 Killian Bundy

The Oktoberfest has started!

/let the public urination begin!

Careful. If they get too drunk, they may invade Poland again.

655 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:50:44pm

re: #653 sattv4u2

Wear cheap sandals.

656 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:50:53pm

re: #652 doriangrey

And here I go to all the trouble of bringing you a Chateau de Rothschild 39.... I guess I'll just give it to Goddess, at least she knows a good wine whine when she tastes hears it....


works either way !

657 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:51:00pm

Charles- when I enter a spinoff thread, I am unable to ding the article on that screen.

658 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:51:09pm

re: #649 rosh

Have any of you used Spinoculars yet?

My dear mother (80) needs that.

659 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:51:20pm

re: #655 Perplexed

Wear cheap sandals.

then you get squishy toes ,,, no way !

660 wrenchwench  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:51:29pm

re: #649 rosh

Have any of you used Spinoculars yet?

Looks like a great idea, but I don't want to download a "very Beta" anything.

661 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:51:39pm

re: #652 doriangrey oh noo! i am well able to drink two glasses of wine. although my carpet under the table isn't such a lovely place to find myself. If she is without it is only Fair to Give her the wonderous offering.

662 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:52:06pm

re: #659 sattv4u2

then you get squishy toes ,,, no way !

Easy to clean. You know when you're urinating on your own feet as well.

663 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:52:18pm

re: #657 Sharmuta

Charles- when I enter a spinoff thread, I am unable to ding the article on that screen.

Ummm, maybe Charles doesnt want you being dingy........ /ducks.......

664 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:52:22pm

re: #654 Occasional Reader

Careful. If they get too drunk, they may invade Poland again.

No, you got it wrong. They always want to invade Poland, it is only when they get drunk that they invade France!

665 sngnsgt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:52:25pm
666 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:52:38pm

re: #661 willowone otherwise, just hand it over or else!@

667 Josephine  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:52:46pm

re: #651 sngnsgt

Ugh, can you imagine the off-spring from that relationship? Makes me sick just thinking about it!

Smugly!

(Smug + ugly.)

668 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:53:03pm

re: #652 doriangrey

And here I go to all the trouble of bringing you a Chateau de Rothschild 39.... I guess I'll just give it to Goddess, at least she knows a good wine when she tastes it....

Such jealousy is quite unbecoming. If you insult the fair willowone, we may have to duel, sir!

669 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:53:25pm

re: #657 Sharmuta

re: #663 doriangrey

Ummm, maybe Charles doesnt want you being dingy........ /ducks.......

too late

/RUNNING

670 Charles  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:53:54pm

re: #564 Occasional Reader

Charles, ever checked out the wares of Russian River Brewing Company? They're in your neck of the woods ("the woods" being America, which of course you hate, but leaving that aside for the moment), and make some superb brews. All things being equal, with beer, local = fresher = better.

No, but I will look for it...

671 lowboy  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:54:17pm

re: #591 Tigger2005

Someone was telling me about this beer brewed in Pennsylvania, which is only distributed in 10 states on the Eastern seaboard, but now I can't remember what it's called ... ring any bells?

Yuengling?

672 stevieray  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:54:28pm

re: #605 Noam Sayin'

I'm running FF3 through Vista on a new Dell and I'm having no trouble at all.

It's the IE at work that I have some issues with.

FF3 even remembers me after I log in elsewhere. Didn't do that on my old computer.

That's the frustrating thing... its hit-or-miss.

This only started a week or two ago. It doesn't happen to everyone with FF3 and Vista, heck, it didn't happen to me until the day we had a thread about it. Then things will work fine for a day or two, and then suddenly, they won't.

I'm gonna try it with no firewall or AV/AS turned on... Zone Alarm's latest releases have been wonky, maybe its that.

673 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:54:34pm

re: #649 rosh

re: #650 Killian Bundy

The juxtaposition is way too much for me. Do I need BeerGoggles here now?

674 sngnsgt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:54:34pm

re: #667 Josephine

Smugly!

(Smug + ugly.)

Excellent description.

675 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:55:29pm

re: #668 Meremortal

Such jealousy is quite unbecoming. If you insult the fair willowone, we may have to duel, sir!

Ahhh, you challenge, then I sir choose the weapon... Whiskey shots at 20 paces....

676 pingjockey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:55:32pm

re: #674 sngnsgt

Frugly= Fucking really ugly

677 Charles  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:56:20pm

re: #657 Sharmuta

Charles- when I enter a spinoff thread, I am unable to ding the article on that screen.

Fixed now...

678 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:56:36pm

re: #657 Sharmuta

Charles- when I enter a spinoff thread, I am unable to ding the article on that screen.

Oh- Safari for Windows/XP.

679 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:56:44pm

re: #677 Charles

Thank you!

680 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:56:53pm

re: #672 stevieray

My two cents? You got WXP or Vista, ya don't need ZoneAlarm. It's wonky anyway.

681 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:57:25pm

re: #668 Meremortal

re: #675 doriangrey
and so my glass of wine is spilled under the table of my fabled rug i thought i'd find myslef under. and you both soon to follow.
btw . i don't clean up after the party.

682 sngnsgt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:57:31pm

re: #676 pingjockey

That's more like it

683 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:57:32pm

Anyone here ever drink any "Shouls Pale Ale" made by Smuttynose Brewing in Portsmouth NH?

684 Josephine  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:57:35pm

re: #674 sngnsgt

Excellent description.

How could I not ding you up? (LOL.) Thank you.

685 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:57:46pm

re: #672 stevieray

I'm gonna try it with no firewall or AV/AS turned on... Zone Alarm's latest releases have been wonky, maybe its that.

Zonealarm doesn't work with Vista.

Looking for a suitable - free - alternative, for any of you who know.

686 leftover54  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:57:54pm

"An open thread for a sunny Saturday. I’m tweaking the spinoff links design"

So, I'm not the only one pissing away one of the last beautiful days of summer, indoors, with mouse/keyboard in hand...should be sunning on a rock by a river bed somewhere developing my tongue flick...no tan again this summer !

BTW - Charles, for what it's worth, your spell check comes up "spin off" or "spin-off" rather than "spinoff" :-)

/wise a**

687 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:58:21pm

re: #675 doriangrey

Ahhh, you challenge, then I sir choose the weapon... Whiskey shots at 20 paces....

You would put whiskey on top of my wine, sirrah? Oooh, now I don't feel so good, let's call the whole thing off...assuming the fair lady has not taken offense, of course.

688 Josephine  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:58:35pm

re: #676 pingjockey

Frugly= Fucking really ugly

That's a verb.

689 SnakeSpit  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:58:55pm

I just heard on FOX News that some guy in Pennsylvania has written a song entitled " Moose Shootin' Mama." The news says that the McCain campaign is gonna use it. The man has already landed a contract in Memphis for the recording, according to my understanding.

690 sngnsgt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:59:03pm

re: #684 Josephine

I returned the ding ;-)

691 Josephine  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:59:26pm

re: #690 sngnsgt

High five!

692 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:59:34pm

re: #685 Noam Sayin'

I've switched to Comodo. I like it.

693 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:59:39pm

re: #683 Nevergiveup

Anyone here ever drink any "Shouls Pale Ale" made by Smuttynose Brewing in Portsmouth NH?

no ,, but I remember having Old Frothingslosh (sp). Its motto was

The Pale Stale Ale With The Foam On The Bottom

[Link: www.google.com...]

694 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 4:59:47pm

re: #689 SnakeSpit

I just heard on FOX News that some guy in Pennsylvania has written a song entitled " Moose Shootin' Mama." The news says that the McCain campaign is gonna use it. The man has already landed a contract in Memphis for the recording, according to my understanding.

Did you hear the song?

695 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:00:12pm

re: #668 Meremortal

Such jealousy is quite unbecoming. If you insult the fair willowone, we may have to duel, sir!

Newbie's made some friends in this room.

696 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:00:28pm

re: #681 willowone

re: #675 doriangrey
and so my glass of wine is spilled under the table of my fabled rug i thought i'd find myslef under. and you both soon to follow.
btw . i don't clean up after the party.

As long as you are laughing. "A maid laughing is half-won."

697 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:00:28pm

re: #685 Noam Sayin'

Hmmm, try Comodo AV.

698 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:00:40pm

re: #689 SnakeSpit

see the link on #665

699 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:00:51pm

re: #697 Perplexed

High five the Comodo, yo!

700 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:01:04pm

re: #683 Nevergiveup

Perfect brew for a PalinParty.

701 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:01:26pm

re: #681 willowone

re: #675 doriangrey
and so my glass of wine is spilled under the table of my fabled rug i thought i'd find myslef under. and you both soon to follow.
btw . i don't clean up after the party.

Ha ha.........No Meremortal shall prevail against the former nearly almost practically famous Rock Star in a Whiskey shot dual.... It shall be he under your table snuggling your rug madam.....

702 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:01:45pm

re: #692 Sharmuta

I've switched to Comodo. I like it.

Does it work like Zone Alarm?

Once that got settled in, I really liked it.

703 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:02:11pm

re: #695 Noam Sayin'


Sorry Noam, there's no more room under this coffee table.

704 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:02:27pm

re: #700 Cap'n DOC

Perfect brew for a PalinParty.

I gotta order me some of that!

705 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:02:34pm

re: #696 Meremortal
laughter and wine, what could be lovelier

706 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:02:35pm

I suddenly feel like I should put down my foreign gin and run around the block to the convenience store while I'm still legal to drive and pick up a domestic ale of some sort.

707 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:02:43pm

re: #701 doriangrey

Ha ha.........No Meremortal shall prevail against the former nearly almost practically famous Rock Star in a Whiskey shot dual.... It shall be he under your table snuggling your rug madam.....

Oh damn it.... That really didnt come out the way I meant it to...... /Blushes in embarrassment....

708 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:02:53pm

re: #703 Meremortal

Bus(t) the table, Sir!

709 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:02:59pm

re: #694 Nevergiveup

Did you hear the song?

link was in post #665 (sngnsgt)
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids. individual&VideoID=43140081

710 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:03:20pm

re: #699 Sharmuta

High five the Comodo, yo!

I had some issues with the early version of it working with their firewall. Turn on the right stuff and your PC would look at everything as a threat. Later stuff is really pretty good.

711 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:03:31pm

re: #706 David IV of Georgia

I suddenly feel like I should put down my foreign gin and run around the block to the convenience store while I'm still legal to drive and pick up a domestic ale of some sort.

Damned right you should......

712 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:03:31pm

re: #704 Nevergiveup

Good for what Ales ya.

713 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:04:50pm

re: #711 doriangrey

Damned right you should......

If you can find Alaska ale, I recommend it!

714 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:04:50pm

re: #704 Nevergiveup

I gotta order me some of that!

Oh and they sell shirts also!

715 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:05:02pm

re: #701 doriangrey
I will wait for final results of this dastardly move! very wild btw![Link: www.mp3.com.au...]

716 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:05:26pm

re: #702 Noam Sayin'

I like it better than the zonealarm. When I get a security pop-up, it actually tells me what the issue is. It also has other features I didn't have with ZA.

717 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:05:50pm

re: #707 doriangrey haha after whiskey snuggling rugs may seem like a swell idea.

718 stevieray  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:06:13pm

re: #685 Noam Sayin'

re: #680 Cap'n DOC

Zonealarm doesn't work with Vista.

Looking for a suitable - free - alternative, for any of you who know.

It did until the 8.0 release. I had no trouble until the latest "upgrade"

I am using the Security Suite -- firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware package, not just the free firewall.

719 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:06:34pm

re: #707 doriangrey

Oh damn it.... That really didnt come out the way I meant it to...... /Blushes in embarrassment....

Looking so young all the time isn't everything, now is it?

Hey Noam! I think a spot under the table just opened up. And this gal keeps a clean house. I'm married, so it's all platonic anyway.

720 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:06:37pm

Okay, Perplexed and Sharmuta. I'm going to download that on your recommendation.

721 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:07:22pm
722 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:07:58pm

re: #710 Perplexed

I just got it recently- there was a microsoft update that didn't work well with ZA. I couldn't get online until I ripped ZA out. later found out there was a patch, but I''d already found Comodo by then and liked it better. I like that Comodo will tell me what's going on, so I have some idea of what the issue is, whereas ZA would just pop up and expect me to know.

723 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:08:08pm

re: #720 Noam Sayin'

Okay, Perplexed and Sharmuta. I'm going to download that on your recommendation.

This is a RTFM before you install it or you might be surprised. Make sure you've got all of your background programs shut down as well.

724 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:08:13pm

re: #717 willowone

haha after whiskey snuggling rugs may seem like a swell idea.

Oh dear, what have I started.... My former nearly practically almost famous Rock Star ways dont seem to have quite deserted me yet.....

725 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:08:38pm

re: #720 Noam Sayin'

Okay, Perplexed and Sharmuta. I'm going to download that on your recommendation.

Enjoy!

726 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:08:42pm

re: #708 Cap'n DOC

Bus(t) the table, Sir!


"Everybody's got-ta get inta the act"

Bet you know who used to say that on his TV show!

727 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:08:50pm
728 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:08:55pm

re: #721 ploome hineni

..and I keep getting booted off LGF, if I go away from the site, and have to sign in again

is that something new?

stinkys way of saying CAUTION ,, STRIKE TWO !

j/k

729 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:09:38pm

re: #719 Meremortal Sure now your wife won't allow my Spouse and our 5 children to visit your rug?
snort

730 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:09:51pm
731 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:10:05pm

re: #730 ploome hineni

SHADDAP........:p

shaddin !

732 stuiec  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:10:11pm

re: #403 eon

My guess is, he'll be filed in the Dems' history books right next to George "We're All Socialists Here" McGovern.

Although it took Adlai Stevenson two tries to get the message that he needed more than the "smart, sophisticated, intellectual" people to win the White House.

/having all those "grotty groundlings" is what put Ike in over him each time

cheers

eon

Let's hope he doesn't resurrect himself like Nixon after 1960.

733 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:10:27pm

re: #721 ploome hineni

There's been some gremlins lately. Sometimes I suddenly am looking at footballs instead avatars and find out I've been booted. Thought I was banned!

734 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:10:31pm
735 anotherindyfilmguy  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:10:49pm

Hey... is it possible we can't see a real copy of Obamassieh's birth certificate because he is really a reverse Manchurian candidate? I mean is it really possible he is a Republican long term undercover operative meant to derail the Democrats by totally doing everything to lose an election? His only goal may have been to beat out shrillary and ensure McCain will win by picking the foot in mouth prone Biden?
Just wondering...

736 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:11:05pm

re: #730 ploome hineni

SHADDAP........:p

Ya, stinky never gives a warning..... Just the ole...Batters up...........

737 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:11:43pm
738 wahabicorridor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:12:03pm

re: #645 David IV of Georgia

Yuengling is one of those beers noted for the fact that there is nothing wrong with it.
It's not too bitter.
Not too sweet.
Not too hoppy.
Not too fizzy.
Not too bland.
Not too bad...


I miss Iron City.

739 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:12:31pm

re: #735 anotherindyfilmguy

Hey... is it possible we can't see a real copy of Obamassieh's birth certificate because he is really a reverse Manchurian candidate? I mean is it really possible he is a Republican long term undercover operative meant to derail the Democrats by totally doing everything to lose an election? His only goal may have been to beat out shrillary and ensure McCain will win by picking the foot in mouth prone Biden?
Just wondering...

Stinky is on deck warming up.......Just sayin....... (Obama;s birth certificate is off limits)....

740 WhiteRasta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:12:33pm

Whiskey shots at 20 paces? Hard liquor is the work of Stan.

Speaking from personal experience, I can state that pina colada should be re-named penis collapser.

(I gave up that stuff, long ago!)

741 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:12:37pm

re: #724 doriangrey
Tis true we went from a lovely glass of wine to guzzling whiskey in a few short texts.

742 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:12:38pm

re: #738 wahabicorridor

I miss Iron City.

I miss Narragansett

743 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:13:01pm

Well, lookie at who is drawing the BIG crowds down in Florida?

Biggest crowd EVER at the Villages - 20K for tomorrow

744 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:13:04pm

re: #724 doriangrey

Oh dear, what have I started.... My former nearly practically almost famous Rock Star ways dont seem to have quite deserted me yet.....

Yeah, and you need a haircut too. I do play a mean Fender bass if you need that though...

745 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:13:46pm

re: #734 ploome hineni a Paper? we no longer need no stinking papers, we have LGF. othwerwise barely. but i have yet to give up L: P

746 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:14:06pm

re: #741 willowone

Tis true we went from a lovely glass of wine to guzzling whiskey in a few short texts.

What can I say.... Hang out with a former nearly practically almost famous Rock Star and somebody is bound to get hammered..... ;O

747 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:14:08pm

re: #737 ploome hineni

but you are a pain in the ass, whereas I am wonderful

:D

I am so PWNED at this moment.

748 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:14:22pm

re: #743 Intrepid

Well, lookie at who is drawing the BIG crowds down in Florida?

Biggest crowd EVER at the Villages - 20K for tomorrow

Sarah is the gift that keeps on giving!

749 sngnsgt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:14:47pm

re: #691 Josephine

Cheers!

750 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:14:48pm

re: #740 WhiteRasta
heh.

751 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:14:55pm

re: #743 Intrepid

Well, lookie at who is drawing the BIG crowds down in Florida?

Biggest crowd EVER at the Villages - 20K for tomorrow

The Villages?

752 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:15:01pm

re: #744 Meremortal

Yeah, and you need a haircut too. I do play a mean Fender bass if you need that though...

A hair.... Maybe...

753 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:15:11pm
754 HoosierHoops  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:15:37pm

re: #739 doriangrey
Hey Dorian..I'm in the house for a bit..did you finish the mind control ray yet..* wink*

755 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:15:47pm
756 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:15:55pm

re: #746 doriangrey
also a carpenter? we are now back to reynolds , haha

757 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:16:00pm

re: #743 Intrepid

Well, lookie at who is drawing the BIG crowds down in Florida?

Biggest crowd EVER at the Villages - 20K for tomorrow

/The Villages?

758 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:16:41pm

re: #711 doriangrey

Damned right you should......

i got some Shiner Bock.

759 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:16:42pm

re: #754 HoosierHoops

Hey Dorian..I'm in the house for a bit..did you finish the mind control ray yet..* wink*

Damn.... Everybody want it done yesterday.... Dont you guys understand this shit is rocket science?

760 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:16:52pm

re: #753 ploome hineni, heck those are the childrens candy wrappers, don't mind them.

761 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:17:15pm
762 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:17:21pm

re: #751 Sharmuta

The Villages?

Oh.My.Good.Granny! They should SO play that at the event tomorrow. It's a downright hoot!

763 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:17:29pm

re: #758 David IV of Georgia

i got some Shiner Bock.

You have redeemed yourself.................

764 WhiteRasta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:17:39pm

later.

765 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:18:03pm

re: #751 Sharmuta

The Villages?

/GET OUT OF MY HEAD!

766 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:18:12pm

re: #759 doriangrey
This is indeed a tough crowd.

767 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:18:32pm

re: #755 ploome hineni

what does that mean?

Geek-speak for being "owned" or beat up, put down, trashed etc. by another or by an accident of some type. Learned that from the young-uns around the net.

768 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:18:33pm

re: #764 WhiteRasta

later.

oh ,, umm,,,, you've been here ? ummm,, well ,, cya !

769 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:18:40pm

re: #738 wahabicorridor

I miss Iron City.

Steel Reserve is always good, always cheap, always gives me a rotten headache.

770 Colonel Panik  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:18:45pm

re: #29 Nevergiveup

Not having attended a school with a big college football program, I kinda adopted Notre Dame as my college football team ( I know not terribly original ). Well I am starting to sour on Charlie Weiss. And dam he should lose some weight besides his job.

Doesn't Quasimodo play hunchback for Notre Dame? They say he's a real bell-ringer.

771 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:18:56pm

re: #755 ploome hineni

what does that mean?

domination and/or humiliation of a rival
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=pwn&gwp= 13

(I had to go there, it's not on the LGF dictionary that I could find)

772 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:19:08pm
773 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:19:51pm
774 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:20:21pm

re: #767 Meremortal

Geek-speak for being "owned" or beat up, put down, trashed etc. by another or by an accident of some type. Learned that from the young-uns around the net.

Gawd..............................It comes from UUNET and refers to having been played like a pawn on a chess board............Damned youngens and there lack of genuine information.....

775 stuiec  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:20:29pm

re: #397 Irene NYC

Yes, yochanan, but you are in a minority. If the Jewish community came out and said, "We're voting McCain," that would be it. McCain would have NY and FL and the election would be over.

It's very difficult as an American Jew to say out loud that you are going to vote for McCain. You risk ostracism from your circle of friends and family.

But that's why it's so nice that the voting booth is private.

776 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:20:36pm

re: #772 ploome hineni

you're correct tonight is light and sweet, i try to lay low during hard core discussions as i have noticed everyone else is much smarter than i.

777 HoosierHoops  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:20:48pm

re: #759 doriangrey

Damn.... Everybody want it done yesterday.... Dont you guys understand this shit is rocket science?

707
hey.. I hear a band called the rockets today do a remake of 'oh well' by the old fleetwood mac..peter green era..
incredible

778 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:20:51pm

re: #765 Killian Bundy

I blame Mandy.

779 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:21:18pm

re: #664 Nevergiveup

No, you got it wrong. They always want to invade Poland, it is only when they get drunk that they invade France!

My grandfather's Luftwaffe reconnaisance unit set up its headquarters in Reims when they took part in the invasion of France in 1940.

It was years before I realized - after I had worked in the wine & spirits industry for a bit - that there was a very, very good reason to set up your administrative HQ in downtown Reims. It starts with "Champ" and ends with "pagne".

Suddenly, that one old snapshot of my grandfather's squadron mates sitting at picnic tables under a tent, with a half-dozen very tall foil-necked bottles, made MUCH more sense. He died before I was born, but if I could ask my grandfather, I would honestly ask him if they really were that crass that they'd choose an HQ location based on the liquor, or based on military needs... Which was it?

780 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:21:18pm

re: #776 willowone

you're correct tonight is light and sweet, i try to lay low during hard core discussions as i have noticed everyone else is much smarter than i.

wow ,, and here i thought YOU were the smart one compared to me !

781 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:21:43pm

re: #778 Sharmuta

I blame Mandy.

you wouldn't if she were here !

782 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:21:43pm

re: #772 ploome hineni

if you think tonight is tough

/tee hee


Yeah, this isn't even pattycakes, but willowone will learn in time, when some trolls show up.

783 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:21:51pm

re: #757 Killian Bundy

/The Villages?

You and Sharm had the same idea, but it was worth watching twice! Ol' Plugs is drunker than Cootie Brown on a Friday night in that clip.

784 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:21:58pm

re: #776 willowone

you're correct tonight is light and sweet, i try to lay low during hard core discussions as i have noticed everyone else is much smarter than i.

We only appear that way because we have memorized big words like "pwn".

785 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:22:04pm

re: #650 Killian Bundy

The Oktoberfest has started!

/let the public urination begin!

I live in a college town, and our local paper prints the police blotter.

I've told my boys NEVER to drink and drive, but I'd be MORTIFIED if their names were ever listed under "drunk in public" or "public urination."

786 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:22:25pm

re: #770 Colonel Panik

Doesn't Quasimodo play hunchback for Notre Dame? They say he's a real bell-ringer.

If Quasimodo play today for ND, he got his bell rung today as Michigan State rolled to victory.

787 WindHorse  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:22:25pm

re: #764 WhiteRasta

later dude.

788 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:22:38pm

re: #780 sattv4u2

alright i am a shmart azz at times.

789 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:22:39pm

re: #781 sattv4u2

you wouldn't if she were here !

She was the one who kept linking that clip. It's "blame", but in a good way.

790 funky chicken  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:22:54pm

re: #249 MandyManners

She has neither the experience nor the acumen to sit on the bench.

And in Obamaland, she's too old, and not radical enough. The good news is that after the primary election, I think Bill and Hill know they can't trust any promises Obama makes to them. Yeah, Hillary says she's going to campaign for Obama starting this week. She probably doesn't have much choice. But I'd bet serious cash that the big supporters/donors who came out this week for McCain consulted with her before they did so.

791 kevinmumaw  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:22:58pm

Indiana-Ball State game is turning into a good one.

792 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:23:09pm

re: #774 doriangrey

There are competing stories of the origin of PWNED. I'll leave it there, I've had enough wine to be very lazy at this point.

793 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:23:10pm

re: #784 jwb7605
haha. true i had Noo idea what that was but was afraid to ask.

794 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:23:34pm

re: #785 goddessoftheclassroom

I live in a college town, and our local paper prints the police blotter.

I've told my boys NEVER to drink and drive, but I'd be MORTIFIED if their names were ever listed under "drunk in public" or "public urination."

could be worse ,,,, their names could be in DRUNK AND PUBLIC URINATION WHILE DRIVING !

795 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:23:37pm

re: #775 stuiec

It's very difficult as an American Jew to say out loud that you are going to vote for McCain. You risk ostracism from your circle of friends and family.

But that's why it's so nice that the voting booth is private.

I say it all the time. I say it loud and I say it proud.

796 HoosierHoops  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:23:39pm

re: #791 kevinmumaw

Indiana-Ball State game is turning into a good one.

what channel?

797 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:24:19pm

re: #755 ploome hineni

what does that mean?

Pwned is "owned" as if it were typed too fast on a qwerty keyboard. "I pwned (owned) you!" or similar statements are used in computer games to mean that I scored/killed you because you are spectacularly bad or I am spectacularly good or both. Usually used when opponent is tricked or confused into losing. See: [Link: www.urbandictionary.com...]

798 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:24:48pm

re: #794 sattv4u2

could be worse ,,,, their names could be in DRUNK AND PUBLIC URINATION WHILE DRIVING !

Oh, so true!

Seriously, I can accept responsible drinking; to the point of being out of control is dangerous for so many reasons.

799 kevinmumaw  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:24:59pm

re: #796 HoosierHoops

I'm watching it on the Big Ten Channel (Direct TV).

800 doriangrey  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:25:14pm

BBIAB.... Got to eat.................

801 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:25:29pm
802 sattv4u2  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:25:38pm

re: #797 David IV of Georgia

Pwned is "owned" as if it were typed too fast on a qwerty keyboard. "I pwned (owned) you!" or similar statements are used in computer games to mean that I scored/killed you because you are spectacularly bad or I am spectacularly good or both. Usually used when opponent is tricked or confused into losing. See: [Link: www.urbandictionary.com...]

you kids and your new fangled words . Why, back on my day we had 6! YES, NO, and WANNA SEE MY ETCHINGS

803 Josephine  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:25:52pm

re: #629 Josephine

Divine, is that you?

Oh, now I'm on an '80s music kick.

In a time and place
Where a woman can't show her face
Her life is ruled by men
That shouldn't happen again

Preach it, Iggy and Ofra.

804 Meremortal  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:26:13pm

OK gang, Sweetie just called me to dinner, and only a fool would let her cooking get cold. Later, lizards.

805 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:26:15pm

re: #776 willowone

you're correct tonight is light and sweet, i try to lay low during hard core discussions as i have noticed everyone else is much smarter than i.

What made you pic that screen name/handle (nic, as I've seen it used here)?
Don't answer that if it reveals "personal information".
I just think it's "pretty".

806 stuiec  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:26:29pm

re: #575 Irene NYC

I don't know how it will happen. Look at Lieberman in CT. The Dems ran Ned Lamont against him, a multi-millionaire going back 2 generations, a communist supporter (also going back 2 generations). Look at the Chicago team backing Obama - rich, influential and well connected. Who's going to throw them out? They've got the Soros', Heinz-Kerry's, etc. A bunch of fabulously wealthy people whose lives revolve around leftwing politics.

The Dems are going to have to implode. And it doesn't look like it's going to be happening any time soon.

The people to throw them out are the rest of the Democrats who are sick and tired of losing. They will push back hard and try to purge the Progressives -- but it's not clear whether they'll succeed, or instead be purged themselves.

807 stevieray  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:27:27pm

Trying to post from laptop.

808 BlueCanuck  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:27:31pm

re: #779 Pawn of the Oppressor

Welll duh. You're talking soldiers. It's always based around getting the best booze with the easiest effort. :)

/been there done that, for years had an internal compass to all beer and liquor stores.

809 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:27:31pm

re: #789 Sharmuta

She was the one who kept linking that clip. It's "blame", but in a good way.

Let's blame Mandy for lots of things, since she's not here. It's MandyManners' fault that:

* Obama/Biden are even/slightly ahead in the polls
* The Patriots lost the Superbowl
* We have no gas in the Nashville area
* Wacko leftist women are rabid over the pick of Sarah Palin

What else can we blame her for, since she's not here to *WHACK* us?

810 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:27:39pm

re: #793 willowone

haha. true i had Noo idea what that was but was afraid to ask.

These guys (unlike me) might sound/seem a bit rough, but never be afraid to ask.
MandyManners or Galloping Granny will keep them in line.

811 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:27:39pm

re: #802 sattv4u2

you kids and your new fangled words . Why, back on my day we had 6! YES, NO, and WANNA SEE MY ETCHINGS

Maybe....

812 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:28:11pm

re: #801 ploome hineni posters here blow me away, i've never been so impressed with the amount of knowledge and the well handled discussions.

813 stuiec  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:28:39pm

re: #795 Nevergiveup

I say it all the time. I say it loud and I say it proud.

Where do you live? I live in Northern California, where Jewish organizations are pretty intolerant of anything un-Democratic.

814 willowone  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:28:52pm

re: #810 jwb7605
excellant, and both of those s/ns i admire already

815 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:28:54pm

Yoo-hoo! Pre-Boomer Marine brat! Are you here?

816 Geepers  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:29:04pm

Little Green (Football) Men: 1924

"Capt. Hottel, guard, George Washington U., Class of 1924." Guy Hottel, captain of the Hatchetites. National Photo Co. glass negative. View full size. In 1950, Guy, a special agent in charge of the FBI's Washington field office, sent J. Edgar Hoover a memo regarding UFOs ("flying saucers, information concerning").

Advance Lizard Scouts?

817 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:29:06pm

re: #809 Intrepid

I blame Mandy for *WHACK*.

818 JCM  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:29:08pm

re: #807 stevieray

Trying to post from laptop.

Really cool aren't they

819 HoosierHoops  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:29:16pm

re: #799 kevinmumaw

I'm watching it on the Big Ten Channel (Direct TV).

Well crap..I'm watching LSU..Can't find testicle tech anywhere..
going out in about an hour or so..

820 kevinmumaw  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:30:06pm

re: #819 HoosierHoops

Dante Love got laid the **** out. Looks like he might be done for season.

821 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:31:25pm

re: #775 stuiec

It's very difficult as an American Jew to say out loud that you are going to vote for McCain. You risk ostracism from your circle of friends and family.

And that's a serious problem because it shows they're not willing to deal with reality - a real perversion of Fiat justitia ruat caelum. And in this instance, I fear it may be all too literally true.

822 BlueCanuck  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:31:30pm

re: #809 Intrepid

*starts to slowly back away from Intrepid*
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Dude, that was awfully brave, um, suicidal.

/*dives for closest cover*

823 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:31:41pm

re: #808 BlueCanuck

Welll duh. You're talking soldiers. It's always based around getting the best booze with the easiest effort. :)

/been there done that, for years had an internal compass to all beer and liquor stores.

Well this is Germans we are talking about. Military needs first, papers please, only following orders, we go where they send us, all that stuff... And then you look at another way:

"We're invading France. F-ck it, we're the mighty Luftwaffe! Let's get us some Champagne!"

824 stevieray  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:31:51pm

Too soon to tell, but the Vista/FF3/LGF problem may be due to Zone Alarm's firewall. I'm going in and out of LGF with no problems with ZA disabled.

825 Outrider  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:32:01pm

re: #775 stuiec

It's very difficult as an American Jew to say out loud that you are going to vote for McCain. You risk ostracism from your circle of friends and family.

But that's why it's so nice that the voting booth is private.

Well, it really isn't is it? If you are voting via computer, there is no privacy to speak of at all. Just computers facing the crowd in violation of Federal Election Commission Voting System Standards (VSS)14:

To facilitate casting a ballot, all systems shall:

[…] Protect the secrecy of the vote such that the system cannot reveal any information about how a particular voter voted, except as otherwise required by individual State law;
and:
All systems shall provide voting booths [that shall] provide privacy for the voter, and be designed in such a way as to prevent observation of the ballot by any person other than the voter.

I just wrote of this issue on my blog. (really not shamefully blog pimping.)

826 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:32:04pm

re: #769 David IV of Georgia

oooh. Rust.

827 funky chicken  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:32:11pm

re: #795 Nevergiveup

I say it all the time. I say it loud and I say it proud.

*applause*

828 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:32:33pm

re: #817 Sharmuta

I blame Mandy for *WHACK*.

Galloping Granny is no better.
All you gotta do is mention one universal truth regarding "woman's work", and you get either *whack* or the Clue-by-4.

829 stevieray  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:32:49pm

re: #818 JCM

Really cool aren't they

I remember those! They we're too cool way back in the day!

830 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:33:06pm

re: #813 stuiec

Where do you live? I live in Northern California, where Jewish organizations are pretty intolerant of anything un-Democratic.

I live in NJ and I know all about Jewish Organizations having held positions in many of them. Many of the same organizations you talk of are just as out of touch with reality as in Northern California. I have had my fights with many of them and with many individual Jews who used to be my friends and with much of my Family , but I do sense I tide change. I've also become active with the RJC so I can associate with some people who agree with me and so I can keep my sanity ( such as it is).

831 BlueCanuck  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:33:28pm

re: #823 Pawn of the Oppressor

Having seen troops from different country's all we had to do to overcome the language barriers was just say "Beer?"

/first word any soldier really learns. :)

832 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:33:29pm

re: #817 Sharmuta

I blame Mandy for *WHACK*.

I blame Mandy for the production and broadcasting of the show "Enterprise". They should have stopped at ST:Voyager, but NOOOOO.

It's all her fault.

833 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:34:26pm

re: #831 BlueCanuck

Having seen troops from different country's all we had to do to overcome the language barriers was just say "Beer?"

/first word any soldier really learns. :)

I think with the Russians after WW2 it was "cigarette."

/They didn't need Western beer, they had vodka!

834 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:34:38pm

re: #806 stuiec

The people to throw them out are the rest of the Democrats who are sick and tired of losing. They will push back hard and try to purge the Progressives -- but it's not clear whether they'll succeed, or instead be purged themselves.


They'll be purged. That's what leftists do best.

835 BlueCanuck  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:34:57pm

re: #832 Intrepid

I blame Mandy for the production and broadcasting of the show "Enterprise". They should have stopped at ST:Voyager, but NOOOOO.

It's all her fault.

Heck they should have stopped at ST:DS9.

836 right_on_target  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:35:10pm

re: #779 Pawn of the Oppressor

My grandfather's Luftwaffe reconnaisance unit set up its headquarters in Reims when they took part in the invasion of France in 1940.

It was years before I realized - after I had worked in the wine & spirits industry for a bit - that there was a very, very good reason to set up your administrative HQ in downtown Reims. It starts with "Champ" and ends with "pagne".

Suddenly, that one old snapshot of my grandfather's squadron mates sitting at picnic tables under a tent, with a half-dozen very tall foil-necked bottles, made MUCH more sense. He died before I was born, but if I could ask my grandfather, I would honestly ask him if they really were that crass that they'd choose an HQ location based on the liquor, or based on military needs... Which was it?


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The Germans admit that their Sekt is ALMOST as good as French Champagne

837 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:35:19pm

re: #833 Tigger2005

I think with the Russians after WW2 it was "cigarette."

/They didn't need Western beer, they had vodka!

Wasn't it Patton that said he wasn't gonna drink with any commie bastard?

838 Perplexed  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:35:29pm

re: #821 Irene NYC

And that's a serious problem because it shows they're not willing to deal with reality - a real perversion of Fiat justitia ruat caelum. And in this instance, I fear it may be all too literally true.

Difficult yes. Impossible no. Tell them that your vote is private and that they don't have the right to question you about your voting habits. They might guess correctly, but unless you open your mouth they have nothing but suspicions to go on. Vote for the best.

839 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:35:36pm

re: #832 Intrepid

I blame Mandy for the production and broadcasting of the show "Enterprise". They should have stopped at ST:Voyager, but NOOOOO.

It's all her fault.

I blame Mandy largely for MST3K, and also that MST3K got cancelled.
I think Mandy was secretly the one with the Mickey Mouse ears.
Are you sure Mandy is gone?

840 wrenchwench  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:35:40pm

re: #816 Geepers

Little Green (Football) Men: 1924

Advance Lizard Scouts?

That looks like it was typed on an IBM Selectric!

/

841 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:36:05pm

re: #822 BlueCanuck

*starts to slowly back away from Intrepid*
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Dude, that was awfully brave, um, suicidal.

/*dives for closest cover*

Heh - dudette.

What, can women not have a nic that represents an awesome aircraft carrier, or one that has the definition of "resolutely courageous; fearless"?

842 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:36:18pm

re: #834 Irene NYC

They'll be purged. That's what leftists do best.

You mean the leftists will purge the Party of anyone who isn't an True Believer?

Night of the Long Knives ...

843 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:36:43pm

re: #818 JCM

Really cool aren't they

Shit. That was my second portable.
;)

844 HoosierHoops  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:36:52pm

Obama is playing ads in Indiana like crazy..
It seems to be constantly..'Hi..my name is Barack Obama'
I know what your name is...aaarrrrgggg

845 victor_yugo  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:37:10pm

re: #835 BlueCanuck

Heck they should have stopped at ST:DS9.

But then how would we get Jeri Ryan?

846 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:37:15pm

re: #841 Intrepid

Heh - dudette.

What, can women not have a nic that represents an awesome aircraft carrier, or one that has the definition of "resolutely courageous; fearless"?

The USS Palin is going to be the most awesome aircraft carrier ever.

847 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:37:21pm

re: #801 ploome hineni

I used to do the same, the first few years I was here all I did was google to supply reference to topics being discussed

this place was like a seminar

And became . . . da google queen!

Good evening ploome, and all!

How are things tonight?

848 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:37:22pm

Pussy versus Printer

/I wish Kitten Bill was that mellow

849 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:37:25pm

re: #833 Tigger2005

I think with the Russians after WW2 it was "cigarette."

/They didn't need Western beer, they had vodka!

Pivo, cerveza, beer—it's universal.
Whiskey, vodka, rum have the same brotherly appeal.

850 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:38:37pm

re: #835 BlueCanuck

Heck they should have stopped at ST:DS9.

That show should have stopped after just a few years, before they went into the Dominion War crap.

Yikes, I'm a ST geek!

heh

851 PSGInfinity  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:38:38pm

re: #2 kynna

If something 'acts weird' I always blame myself. I'm usually right.

Ah, so you have a Surreality Distortion Field too, eh?
(Finally! I'm not alone!)

852 jwb7605  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:38:38pm

re: #846 Tigger2005

The USS Palin is going to be the most awesome aircraft carrier ever.

The USS Palin sounds more like a guided missile frigate.
As a former Navy airdale, I mean that as a compliment.

853 HoosierHoops  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:39:18pm

re: #847 reine.de.tout

Well..how did the cake bake? beats broiling everytime?
{reine}
what up?

854 Geepers  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:39:19pm

wrenchwench (#840),

That looks like it was typed on an IBM Selectric!

LOL.

855 PSGInfinity  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:40:29pm

re: #847 reine.de.tout

And became . . . da google queen!
Good evening ploome, and all!
How are things tonight?

Good evening reine!

856 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:40:39pm

re: #853 HoosierHoops

Well..how did the cake bake? beats broiling everytime?
{reine}
what up?

heh-heh.
The cake came out really nice. Even all across the top, no bulge in the center LOL!

The edges seem a little burned - I think I need to use 2 small pans and not one big one.

But I think it's going to be delicious (choco fudge with cream cheese icing).

857 Intrepid  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:40:48pm

re: #839 jwb7605

I blame Mandy largely for MST3K, and also that MST3K got cancelled.
I think Mandy was secretly the one with the Mickey Mouse ears.
Are you sure Mandy is gone?

I'd blame Mandy for the MST3K stoppage, but I'll hand it to her for the creation of it. It was one fine show.

(dunno if she's gone for good tonight....we'll have to hide if she comes back)

858 RubyTuesday  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 5:40:53pm

re: #801 ploome hineni
I also mostly lie low and learn sitting at the feet of LGF and Curmudgeonly &