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Open | Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:44:00 pm PDT

Blessed is he who has reached the point of no return and knows it, for he shall enjoy living.

— W. C. Bennett

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1 jcm  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:46:33pm

A thread open to the night!

2 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:47:01pm

An Open Thread. Thank God! I'm dead tired.

3 rawmuse  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:47:15pm

Blessed are the pie makers, too!

4 Temujin  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:47:19pm

Sure that quote isn't W.C. Fields?

5 BlueCanuck  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:47:41pm
Blessed is he who has reached the point of no return and knows it, for he shall enjoy living.

— W. C. Bennett

Yeah, we are reaching it in some areas tonight. Evening lizards how goes things today?

6 jcm  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:49:28pm

Maybe a little music to set the mood.

7 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:49:34pm

re: #2 Wyatt Earp

An Open Thread. Thank God! I'm dead tired.

Thank Dead, I'm God tired. Er, I'm creationist tired. Really tired. Of it. Them. Whatever.

I'm here to be stupid and boring, but I'm going to do it without using the Bible! I'm awesome that way.

8 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:49:48pm

hello bluecanuk
something can be said for the length of canadian elections.

9 rawmuse  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:50:05pm

re: #6 jcm

Gah! I played that show, about 222 times.

10 Karridine  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:50:19pm

Point of no return?

Like the week of the Christmas Tsunami, when I blew a gasket in my brain bucket, couldn't talk or write or type, and became ACUTELY AWARE of my mortality?

/if so, then I'm sure I'm grateful for every moment of life, NOW!

11 coquimbojoe  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:50:50pm

re: #3 rawmuse

Blessed are the pie makers, too!

Amen, brother!

12 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:51:11pm

re: #7 Pawn of the Oppressor

Thank Dead, I'm God tired. Er, I'm creationist tired. Really tired. Of it. Them. Whatever.

I'm here to be stupid and boring, but I'm going to do it without using the Bible! I'm awesome that way.

Stupid and boring are my middle names!

13 jcm  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:51:26pm

re: #9 rawmuse

Gah! I played that show, about 222 times.

eep! sorry!

A little different theme.

14 jcm  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:52:04pm

re: #3 rawmuse

Blessed are the pie makers, too!

Strawberry rhubarb!

15 Gearhead  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:52:08pm

Breathing a bit easier since there's somewhere to play besides the 'Creationism' post.

Looka me! Almost 800 posts. Is is possible to move up to insignificance?

16 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:52:15pm

re: #2 Wyatt Earp

An Open Thread. Thank God! I'm dead tired.

Read the article.

So, the Italian won an offer he couldn't refuse?

/reaching.

17 rawmuse  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:52:34pm

re: #10 Karridine

Nothing like a close scrape to change your perspective.
I think few people get to age 50 without a close scrape.
Me, I've had several.
Plus, attending the funerals of people younger than yourself does wonders.
Just my observation.

18 jcm  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:52:43pm

re: #12 Wyatt Earp

Stupid and boring are my middle names!

Is that your interrogation technique?
Wear 'em down!

19 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:53:51pm

re: #18 jcm

Is that your interrogation technique?
Wear 'em down!

The truth shall set the criminals free!

20 mychimo  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:53:59pm

I just came across an islamist busting on the movies Fitna and Obsession.

She just can't figure out the difference between Muslim and islamist.

I wrote about it here:
[Link: www.wednesdayedition.com...] 67

There's a bunch of links that may or may not piss you off a bit.

21 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:54:06pm

Kinda like the Reno 911 episode where they get a confession out of a guy by locking him up with Weigel until he can't stand it anymore...

22 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:54:11pm

re: #14 jcm

Strawberry rhubarb!

with vanilla ice cream?

23 jcm  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:54:38pm

re: #22 yochanan

with vanilla ice cream?

Hmmmmmmm!

24 BlueCanuck  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:54:53pm

re: #8 yochanan

Oh yeah. Meltdowns happen a hell of a lot faster too.

25 coquimbojoe  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:55:05pm

re: #22 yochanan

with vanilla ice cream?

Boysenberry, with vanilla....

26 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:55:29pm

re: #16 Pawn of the Oppressor

Read the article.

So, the Italian won an offer he couldn't refuse?

/reaching.

It's insurance in case he ever speaks bad about "the family."

27 Timbre  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:55:46pm

See, I knew there would be an open thread, but I couldn't wait 10 minutes! Sorry, Charles.

28 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:55:53pm

rented mules and dead horses


name 2 things you can whip

29 Syrah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:56:17pm

re: #4 Temujin

Sure that quote isn't W.C. Fields?

This is,

"I cook with wine, sometimes I even add it to the food."
W. C. Fields

30 Gearhead  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:56:45pm

re: #28 yochanan

rented mules and dead horses


name 2 things you can whip

Karnak. It that you?

31 Syrah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:58:04pm

re: #28 yochanan

rented mules and dead horses


name 2 things you can whip

Butter and cream.

32 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:58:39pm

re: #31 Syrah

Butter and cream.

An orange.

"Orange whip? Orange whip? Three orange whips!"

33 coquimbojoe  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:58:42pm

re: #23 jcm

Hmmmmmmm!

http://lucianne.com/ Just happens to be on Lucianne right now.... As for music here's a silly song that is from a commercial and is stuck in my head.

34 rawmuse  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 10:59:55pm

JCM and Wyatt, I got another interview coming up. I will be thinking of you guys.
If I don't make it past this one, I may stick a fork in it. The fork was already in it when I got letter saying I could get another interview, and not the cattle call type, something just for me. It is next Wed. at 2pm.

Nervous? Yeah, a little. Here we go.

35 Timbre  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:00:08pm

Some of YES want to start the 40th anniversary tour without Jon Anderson, and Jon is mad about it.

36 Racer X  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:00:21pm

re: #30 Gearhead

Karnak. Is that you?

Liketalikapus.

...

What is a Jurassic lesbian.

37 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:00:43pm

re: #33 coquimbojoe

http://lucianne.com/ Just happens to be on Lucianne right now.... As for music here's a silly song that is from a commercial and is stuck in my head.

I absolutely love that commercial! And I feel shame.

38 jcm  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:01:10pm

Hey gang, it's late and I'm gonna' hit the hay.

What worries you, masters you.
John Locke

39 Syrah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:01:25pm

re: #32 Wyatt Earp

An orange.

"Orange whip? Orange whip? Three orange whips!"

Chocolate too. Chocolate also works wonderfully well with orange. Yum.

40 coquimbojoe  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:01:26pm

re: #34 rawmuse

JCM and Wyatt, I got another interview coming up. I will be thinking of you guys.
If I don't make it past this one, I may stick a fork in it. The fork was already in it when I got letter saying I could get another interview, and not the cattle call type, something just for me. It is next Wed. at 2pm.

Nervous? Yeah, a little. Here we go.

Get the book 60 Seconds and You're hired. It is excellent! I will help you focus your answers. I got a job with 3 times base because of it.

41 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:01:29pm

Spent the evening trying to convince myself that Obama will not ruin the economy. A false hope perhaps, but otherwise a descent into madness.

42 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:01:36pm

re: #34 rawmuse

JCM and Wyatt, I got another interview coming up. I will be thinking of you guys.
If I don't make it past this one, I may stick a fork in it. The fork was already in it when I got letter saying I could get another interview, and not the cattle call type, something just for me. It is next Wed. at 2pm.

Nervous? Yeah, a little. Here we go.

Imagine the interviewers in their underwear. Worked for me. Heh.

You'll do well. Don't sweat it.

43 blastforth  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:01:41pm

Here a clip of Joe Biden borrowing a speech from a british politician. I found it on an old vhs put out by one of his opponents for senate. I wonder how long it will stay up.


Youtube Video

44 coquimbojoe  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:02:27pm

re: #37 Wyatt Earp

I absolutely love that commercial! And I feel shame.

So do I, so do I.

45 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:02:38pm

Oh goodie! Chicken Little is here!

46 saltmarsh  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:02:54pm

I wish there was a way to change Obama's halo to a neon light. You know, the kind that blinks on and off intermittently and flickers from end to end. Listening to him speak with your eyes closed is kind of like that.

47 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:03:45pm

re: #45 Sharmuta

Oh goodie! Chicken Little is here!

I'm trying to get out of that mentality.

48 coquimbojoe  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:03:59pm

G'night JCM.

49 Temujin  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:04:42pm

re: #29 Syrah

That's fine - but I'm rummaging around, & I must say, information about "W. C. Bennett" is just not falling into my lap. I find this quote out there all right, but no additional info with it - & not seeing much else.

Maybe my Google-fu is for crap . . .

50 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:04:54pm

re: #47 EIDE_Interface

I'm trying to get out of that mentality.

Don't feel badly. I am convinced that Obama will win, too. Too many stupid, uninformed voters in this world. Philly is full of them. And it really pisses me off.

51 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:05:07pm

YIPPPIEEEEEE

this is not a creationist, i.d. or evolution thread.

52 Blastforth  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:05:12pm

Here's another clip I call "Joe Biden -- Plagiarist"

Youtube Video

53 coquimbojoe  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:05:20pm

re: #49 Temujin

Bill Bennett?

54 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:06:00pm

re: #50 Wyatt Earp

NONONONONO! He's not going to win. Watch this chick:

Youtube Video

I have confidence.

55 Timbre  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:06:11pm

re: #51 yochanan

The battle still rages below...

56 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:06:44pm

joe biden THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING

PAYING TAXES IS PATRIOTIC HEY JOE TELL THAT TO CHARLIE RANGLE OR THE CONGRESSCRITER FROM MY DIST.

57 Temujin  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:07:32pm

re: #51 yochanan

Are you sure?

/(The night is young . . .)

58 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:07:46pm

re: #54 Sharmuta

NONONONONO! He's not going to win. Watch this chick:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

I have confidence.

PUMAs on Patrol! Nice.

59 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:08:00pm

re: #54 Sharmuta

NONONONONO! He's not going to win. Watch this chick:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

I have confidence.

Wow, an African American trashing Obama.

60 mychimo  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:08:00pm

re: #51 yochanan

YIPPPIEEEEEE

this is not a creationist, i.d. or evolution thread.

I'm with you, praise the lord!

61 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:08:17pm

AND- they can kiss Ohio goodbye:


"I was out in Ohio," he said, clutching a football. "I told the folks in Ohio that we'd kick Ohio State's ass!"

Brilliant- keep it up, Joe!

62 Temujin  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:08:42pm

re: #53 coquimbojoe

Bill Bennett's middle name is John.

63 Clemente  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:08:58pm

Latest from the dinnerjacket's boss, also linked in spinoffs

.Khamenei, who is Iran's top political and military figure, said his country's hostility to Israel extended beyond the government to the Israeli people as well.

Anyone feel better knowing Obama will be able to pray right alongside such lunatics in perfectly-accented Arabic, and without any awkward preconditions?

/No?

64 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:09:31pm

ahhhhhhhhh.... my sleeping potion thread has arrived.
Can we talk about science versus mythology some more?

/but don't mess with Jesus. I hear he's coming back and a bit pissed off this time.

65 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:09:54pm

re: #61 Sharmuta

AND- they can kiss Ohio goodbye:


Brilliant- keep it up, Joe!

Um, Joe: It's DELAWARE! As bad as the Buckeyes are this year, the Blue Hans aren't beating them!

66 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:09:55pm

One thing everyone missed about Biden last week:

Biden talks about Catholic social doctrine

I'm shocked nobody picked up on this.

67 winston06  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:10:16pm

hello every one

68 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:11:01pm

re: #67 winston06
HELLO WINSTON

69 Clemente  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:11:34pm

re: #28 yochanan

name 2 things you can whip

Michael Moore's butt.

/Counts as two. At least.

70 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:11:43pm

re: #65 Wyatt Earp

Um, Joe: It's DELAWARE! As bad as the Buckeyes are this year, the Blue Hans aren't beating them!

That would be HENS.

PIMF!

71 BlueCanuck  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:11:43pm

re: #67 winston06

Morning winston.

72 Temujin  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:12:06pm

re: #66 EIDE_Interface

No sane person would waste time paying attention to Joe Biden.

/Forgive me if that sounds offensively personal . . .

73 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:12:15pm

re: #69 Clemente

Michael Moore's butt.

/Counts as two. At least.

Oh, what the Hell? Now how am I supposed to get some sleep?

74 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:12:17pm

re: #65 Wyatt Earp

See- it's that sort of little thing that just doesn't work well while campaigning. People will remember he dissed their team.

75 Syrah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:12:27pm

re: #49 Temujin

That's fine - but I'm rummaging around, & I must say, information about "W. C. Bennett" is just not falling into my lap. I find this quote out there all right, but no additional info with it - & not seeing much else.

Maybe my Google-fu is for crap . . .

Or it could be that the whole of his life amounted to that one quote. It could be the totality of his legacy.

76 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:12:35pm

Hi Winston.

77 cliffster  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:12:35pm

re: #61 Sharmuta

AND- they can kiss Ohio goodbye:

Brilliant- keep it up, Joe!

Since MandyManners isn't here to do it:

Keep it up, Joe!

78 mychimo  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:13:07pm

re: #28 yochanan

rented mules and dead horses


name 2 things you can whip

the Gap Band and Devo?

79 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:13:10pm

ONLY ONE MAN RUNNING THIS NOVEMBER IS QUALIFIED TO BE COMMANDER IN CHIEF

i am proud to support John S. McCain to be C.I.C.

80 Temujin  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:13:44pm

re: #75 Syrah

That is actually a reasonable theory, IMHO.

81 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:13:51pm

I've never seen a media so in the tank for the Democrat. They are literally in the process of throwing an election. If McCain pulls this one out, it will be up there with Truman vs Dewey.

82 Gearhead  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:14:26pm

re: #66 EIDE_Interface

One thing everyone missed about Biden last week:

Biden talks about Catholic social doctrine

I'm shocked nobody picked up on this.

Catholics certainly have. Something like 57 bishops have called him out (maybe archbishops? working from memory)

BTW, the GOP strategy for peeling off voters from the Democrats is to let the Democrats do the peeling.

83 rawmuse  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:14:48pm

re: #81 EIDE_Interface

What, you weren't around in 2004? It was as bad then, worse even.

84 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:15:53pm

re: #83 rawmuse

What, you weren't around in 2004? It was as bad then, worse even.

Of course, not voting for Kerry didn't get you stamped with a "racist" label.

85 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:15:55pm

re: #83 rawmuse

What, you weren't around in 2004? It was as bad then, worse even.

Of course I was following 2004, but even that wasn't so ridiculous as this. The media still will not report on RainesObama. If Raines and Obama were (R), they'd be blasting it 24/7 right now. That is the proof.

86 rawmuse  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:16:15pm

Tomorrow is the last day of summer. And with that, I am off to bed.
Later, Lizards!

87 Temujin  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:16:35pm

re: #80 Temujin

I am liking that idea more and more!

He was too busy enjoying life to achieve anything else!

Q.E.D. !

88 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:17:00pm

Ah so autumn solstice is upon us. A change in seasons, as it always was.

89 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:18:28pm

THE WHOLE FANNE MAE FREDY MAC THING IS DEMOCRAT CURRUPTION

90 rawmuse  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:18:33pm

re: #85 EIDE_Interface

Yes, but in 2004 they were making up stuff out of whole cloth and passing it off as facts. See the LGF Greatest Hits, Throbbing Memo. Anyway, the improvement is non-existent or miniscule, if any. They still stink on ice.

Goodnight!

91 thelongblogger  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:19:08pm

re: #88 EIDE_Interface

Ah so autumn solstice is upon us. A change in seasons, as it always was.

equinox, I hope.

An autumn solstice would be, um... surprising.

92 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:19:12pm

re: #89 yochanan

THE WHOLE FANNE MAE FREDY MAC THING IS DEMOCRAT CURRUPTION

Pretty much yeah, but will the MSM report on it? Yellow journalism...

93 Gearhead  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:19:26pm

re: #84 Wyatt Earp

Of course, not voting for Kerry didn't get you stamped with a "racist" label.

Is it just me, or has the 'race' thing ramped up considerably this week? It's like it was one of this week's talking points.

94 yochanan  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:19:27pm

me too the rack is calling

95 Temujin  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:20:18pm

re: #90 rawmuse

So . . . you're criticizing them because they have a rich fantasy life ?

96 Opilio  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:21:10pm

re: #41 EIDE_Interface

Spent the evening trying to convince myself that Obama will not ruin the economy. A false hope perhaps, but otherwise a descent into madness.

Convince yourself he will not win the election, and you will have convinced yourself he will not ruin the economy. If/When he loses, he will quickly instantly become irrelevant, and the country will have dodged a bullet.

97 Syrah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:21:31pm

Grab your spears every one! An Equinox is approaching. The hunt is on!

Get the spit and the fire ready, it is feasting time!

What kind of wine do you serve with roasted rump of equinox?

98 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:21:42pm

re: #93 Gearhead

Is it just me, or has the 'race' thing ramped up considerably this week? It's like it was one of this week's talking points.

Nope, it's worse this week. The AP posted a "poll" claiming that white Southerners won't vote for Obama solely because he's black.

By all means, AP, paint every Southerner with a wide brush. Dolts.

99 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:22:31pm

re: #96 Opilio

Convince yourself he will not win the election, and you will have convinced yourself he will not ruin the economy. If/When he loses, he will quickly instantly become irrelevant, and the country will have dodged a bullet.

Some people are telling me that Obama will not have carte blanche to destroy the economy, that American public opinion will keep him reigned in. I should try to listen those people.

100 Opilio  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:22:42pm

re: #91 thelongblogger

equinox, I hope.

An autumn solstice would be, um... surprising.

Indeed. If the sun starts heading back north tomorrow, we're in serious trouble.

101 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:22:58pm

re: #98 Wyatt Earp

Nope, it's worse this week. The AP posted a "poll" claiming that white Southerners won't vote for Obama solely because he's black.

By all means, AP, paint every Southerner with a wide brush. Dolts.

That's supposed to help Obama? That will just make him lose Florida for sure.

102 victor_yugo  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:23:02pm

On the need for cultures to evolve.

103 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:23:44pm

re: #99 EIDE_Interface

Some people are telling me that Obama will not have carte blanche to destroy the economy, that American public opinion will keep him reigned in. I should try to listen those people.

The American people will reign him in by electing McCain.

104 Temujin  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:24:10pm

re: #98 Wyatt Earp

Of course, if 90+% of Black Americans intend to vote for Obama . . . that is merely a coincidence, right?

/

105 cliffster  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:24:39pm

re: #98 Wyatt Earp

Nope, it's worse this week. The AP posted a "poll" claiming that white Southerners won't vote for Obama solely because he's black.

By all means, AP, paint every Southerner with a wide brush. Dolts.

Before, they were overreligious simpletons. Now, they are racist, overreligious simpletons. Insulting the heartland didn't win the democrats the election in 2004 - the problem must be that they just didn't insult them enough...

106 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:24:59pm

re: #103 IslandLibertarian

The American people will reign him in by electing McCain.

I wish I had your confidence in the American people. Singularly, I'm confident. As a whole? Not so much.

107 Opilio  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:25:35pm

re: #99 EIDE_Interface

Some people are telling me that Obama will not have carte blanche to destroy the economy, that American public opinion will keep him reigned in. I should try to listen those people.

I believe that the American people will rein him in on Nov 4th., confining his damage potential to that of 1 of 100 voters in the U.S. Senate.

108 thelongblogger  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:25:43pm

re: #100 Opilio

Indeed. If the sun starts heading back north tomorrow, we're in serious trouble.

It would improve the weather where I am, but in the greater scheme of things, life would become very....interesting.

109 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:25:53pm

re: #106 Wyatt Earp

I wish I had your confidence in the American people. Singularly, I'm confident. As a whole? Not so much.

Well the American people elected FDR 4x, Carter, Clinton 2x. Not a wonderful track record.

110 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:25:54pm

re: #104 Temujin

Of course, if 90+% of Black Americans intend to vote for Obama . . . that is merely a coincidence, right?

/

Non-white people can't be racist or bigoted in any way, silly!

/Brown = Sinless.

111 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:26:33pm

re: #110 Pawn of the Oppressor

Non-white people can't be racist or bigoted in any way, silly!

/Brown = Sinless.

Dang, you expressed it much better than I was about to. Gracias!

112 Temujin  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:26:55pm

re: #51 yochanan

YIPPPIEEEEEE

this is not a creationist, i.d. or evolution thread.

You spoke too soon.

See Comment # 102, above . . .

113 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:30:02pm

re: #106 Wyatt Earp

I was considering "hope the American people reign him in" but went for the BOLD!

/NObama!

114 Opilio  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:30:18pm

re: #94 yochanan

me too the rack is calling

Is it a nice rack?

Oh, you mean you're tired and going...

Nevermind.

/

115 coquimbojoe  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:30:39pm

Music for sleep.

116 Catttt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:30:56pm

re: #66 EIDE_Interface

One thing everyone missed about Biden last week:

Biden talks about Catholic social doctrine

I'm shocked nobody picked up on this.

Joe Biden says the Church is broad-minded ("bigger than that"). Sorry, Joe, but this isn't a meat on Friday issue. He has facilitated abortion via the law, and the Church makes it plain that such is a grave sin. He must sleep through the sermon every Sunday and not read the bulletins, because this is NOT a matter for discussion - it is basic doctrine.

I'm an economic conservative and pro-strong military, and those are really important. I will weigh those issues heavily, because those are the things the President and Congress control.

However, as a Catholic, I loathe the self-deception of people like Joe Biden, who are commiting a heresy, are in excommunication with the Church, and yet are going blithely on as if they are good Catholics. They should be honest with themselves and become Episcopalians.

117 coquimbojoe  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:31:25pm

re: #114 Opilio

Is it a nice rack?

Oh, you mean you're tired and going...

Nevermind.

/

No, wait, I think this is worth investigating...

118 Clemente  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:32:30pm

re: #100 Opilio

Indeed. If the sun starts heading back north tomorrow, we're in serious trouble.

South would be unusual; though its northward traverse will decelerate for the next three months. That is, the amount by which days shorten is at its greatest, now.

119 Gearhead  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:34:27pm

re: #98 Wyatt Earp

Nope, it's worse this week. The AP posted a "poll" claiming that white Southerners won't vote for Obama solely because he's black.

By all means, AP, paint every Southerner with a wide brush. Dolts.

I'm a white Southerner, and I'm voting against his record, his poor choice of friends, and his party.

BTW, a recent poll shows the percentage of white Alabamians voting for Obama to be greater than the percentage of black Alabamians voting for McCain. It's a small poll, but I think my point would also hold up with a larger sample.

120 Clemente  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:34:40pm

re: #118 Clemente

South would be unusual; though its northward traverse will decelerate for the next three months. That is, the amount by which days shorten is at its greatest, now.

I'm upside-down; you're right.

121 Catttt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:35:23pm

re: #101 EIDE_Interface

That's supposed to help Obama? That will just make him lose Florida for sure.

I know we cannot blame Obama for that Canadian columnist who said anyone who votes for McCain/Palin is "white trash," but I can't think it was helpful to him.

122 Opilio  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:36:42pm

re: #118 Clemente

South would be unusual; though its northward traverse will decelerate for the next three months. That is, the amount by which days shorten is at its greatest, now.

No, the sun, it be headin' south in the sky these days. T'will be until December.

123 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:37:35pm

This is interesting:

RCP polling data

Gallup Tracking 09/17 - 09/19 2756 RV 50 44 Obama +6
Rasmussen Tracking 09/17 - 09/19 3000 LV 48 47 Obama +1

So what I'd like to know is how does one determine a "likely voter"? Isn't that a subjective determination, whereas RV is objective?

124 cliffster  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:38:42pm

re: #104 Temujin

Of course, if 90+% of Black Americans intend to vote for Obama . . . that is merely a coincidence, right?

/

I think George Bush only won the elections because there are so many people named George.

125 coquimbojoe  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:39:03pm

re: #119 Gearhead

I'm a white Southerner, and I'm voting against his record, his poor choice of friends, and his party.

BTW, a recent poll shows the percentage of white Alabamians voting for Obama to be greater than the percentage of black Alabamians voting for McCain. It's a small poll, but I think my point would also hold up with a larger sample.

I am not voting for Obama because he is a dangerous fool. I could care less about his skin color.

More sleep music.

126 cliffster  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:39:23pm

re: #124 cliffster

I think George Bush only won the elections because there are so many people named George.

I have no idea what this means, or what the point is, but I said it anyways.

127 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:40:02pm

re: #122 Opilio

No, the sun, it be headin' south in the sky these days. T'will be until December.

I thought the sun just kind of expanded out with the rest of the universe and the earth just rocked and rolled around it.

/science

128 Syrah  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:40:17pm

re: #123 EIDE_Interface

This is interesting:

RCP polling data

Gallup Tracking 09/17 - 09/19 2756 RV 50 44 Obama +6
Rasmussen Tracking 09/17 - 09/19 3000 LV 48 47 Obama +1

So what I'd like to know is how does one determine a "likely voter"? Isn't that a subjective determination, whereas RV is objective?

"likely voter" depending on the methodology, means someone who has voted in the last election. Anyone can register to vote. Not all registered voters actually vote.

Likely voters will give you a better measure.

129 coquimbojoe  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:40:48pm

re: #126 cliffster

I have no idea what this means, or what the point is, but I said it anyways.

And here I was thinking that it was because so many people had, or liked Bushes. Who knew?

130 Temujin  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:42:22pm

re: #126 cliffster

Makes as much sense as anything else even vaguely associated with this election . . .

131 Opilio  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:42:32pm

re: #119 Gearhead

I'm a white Southerner, and I'm voting against his record, his poor choice of friends, and his party.

BTW, a recent poll shows the percentage of white Alabamians voting for Obama to be greater than the percentage of black Alabamians voting for McCain. It's a small poll, but I think my point would also hold up with a larger sample.

From your link:

Obama leads 9:1 among blacks; McCain leads 4:1 among whites.

Which group seems more transfixed by epidermal pigmentation? But I suppose it's racist to even point that out.

132 mychimo  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:43:09pm

re: #124 cliffster

I think George Bush only won the elections because there are so many people named George.

that's racist!1!

133 Opilio  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:43:18pm

re: #124 cliffster

I think George Bush only won the elections because there are so many people named George.

George won the election because there are a lot of people that like Bush.

/

134 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:45:03pm

I'm voting for McCain because he is a short white guy like me. It does not matter what he believes in or what his policies are. He is a short white guy like me, so, I have to vote for him.....

135 Catttt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:45:05pm

re: #123 EIDE_Interface

This is interesting:

RCP polling data

Gallup Tracking 09/17 - 09/19 2756 RV 50 44 Obama +6
Rasmussen Tracking 09/17 - 09/19 3000 LV 48 47 Obama +1

So what I'd like to know is how does one determine a "likely voter"? Isn't that a subjective determination, whereas RV is objective?

How Gallup determines who is a likely voter.

136 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:45:35pm

The elephant in the room is - "Blacks are more racist then whites".

137 cliffster  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:45:38pm

re: #133 Opilio

George won the election because there are a lot of people that like Bush.

/

Then McCain/Palin have it in the bag, then!
/cowers back

138 Catttt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:45:55pm

re: #134 Desert Dog

I'm voting for McCain because he is a short white guy like me. It does not matter what he believes in or what his policies are. He is a short white guy like me, so, I have to vote for him.....

I'm voting McCain/Palin because Gov. Palin wears glasses, and so do I.

139 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:46:03pm

re: #133 Opilio

I like Bush too. And I'm really bothered with this shaving it fashion.

/new thread direction or down-ding material.........you decide

140 cliffster  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:46:37pm

re: #136 EIDE_Interface

The elephant in the room is - "Blacks are more racist then whites".

Awwww, man, now it's not an elephant any more. Damn you!

141 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:46:42pm

re: #135 Catttt

Thanks. Now I can safely ignore the Gallup poll forever and just follow the Rasmussen.

142 Maximu§  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:47:21pm

~yawn~

just came back from Disneyland.....my dogs are barking.

143 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:47:59pm

re: #142 Maximu§

~yawn~

just came back from Disneyland.....my dogs are barking.

it's those big ears.

144 Clemente  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:48:34pm

re: #123 EIDE_Interface

...how does one determine a "likely voter"?

Somehow I doubt it's so simple, but maybe they ask, "Are you likely to vote?"

/They probably bring in statistics. I've read that 84% of statisticians are smarter, nicer, and better, than average.

145 Temujin  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:48:41pm

re: #134 Desert Dog

I'm voting for McCain because he is a short white guy like me. It does not matter what he believes in or what his policies are. He is a short white guy like me, so, I have to vote for him.....

Short People got no reason
Short People got no reason
Short People got no reason
To live

They got little hands
And little eyes
And they walk around
Tellin' great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet

Well, I don't want no Short People
Don't want no Short People
Don't want no Short People
Round here

~ Randy Newman

146 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:48:48pm

re: #138 Catttt

I'm voting McCain/Palin because Gov. Palin wears glasses, and so do I.

That's a great reason. If I pointed out the fact that wearing glasses or not wearing glasses is not a good way to determine if a candidate is qualified, then I would be guilty of visionism. And, we all know being a visionist is the lowest form of pond scum there is........

147 Gearhead  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:48:58pm
~yawn~

just came back from Disneyland.....my dogs are barking.

Pluto and who else? Goofy speaks English.

148 Gearhead  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:49:26pm

re: #145 Temujin

You beat me to it.

149 Maximu§  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:49:32pm

re: #143 IslandLibertarian

it's those big ears.

walk'n for 12 hours wore me out

150 Temujin  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:50:04pm

re: #148 Gearhead

GMTA.

151 Gearhead  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:50:32pm

re: #134 Desert Dog

I'm voting for McCain because he is a short white guy like me. It does not matter what he believes in or what his policies are. He is a short white guy like me, so, I have to vote for him.....

Perot '92!

152 Maximu§  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:50:39pm

re: #147 Gearhead

Pluto and who else? Goofy speaks English.


I mean my feet are dog tired, but we had fun.

153 Catttt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:51:45pm

re: #146 Desert Dog

That's a great reason. If I pointed out the fact that wearing glasses or not wearing glasses is not a good way to determine if a candidate is qualified, then I would be guilty of visionism. And, we all know being a visionist is the lowest form of pond scum there is........

And of course the fact that I have a glasses repair kit and recently put a new screw in my glasses means that I work with my hands, and Todd Palin is blue collar, and that is another reason to vote for McCain/Palin. :D And it is a good reason, because it would be classist and workingwithhandsist to say otherwise. /

154 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:51:57pm

re: #147 Gearhead

Pluto and who else? Goofy speaks English.

Goofy is a dog that has a pet dog.....talk about subjugation and Animal Farm type rationalizations!

155 cliffster  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:52:52pm

Night all. Hugs and kisses

156 EIDE_Interface  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:53:11pm

re: #153 Catttt

And of course the fact that I have a glasses repair kit and recently put a new screw in my glasses means that I work with my hands, and Todd Palin is blue collar, and that is another reason to vote for McCain/Palin. :D And it is a good reason, because it would be classist and workingwithhandsist to say otherwise. /

Just keep it a secret that Palin's glasses are a designer brand from Japan...

157 Catttt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:53:13pm

re: #154 Desert Dog

Goofy is a dog that has a pet dog.....talk about subjugation and Animal Farm type rationalizations!

Every wonder why Mickey Mouse wears pants and Donald Duck runs around without any pants on?

158 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:53:33pm

re: #149 Maximu§

walk'n for 12 hours wore me out

oh, those dogs.
But did you get some Mouse ears?

159 Gearhead  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:53:42pm

re: #152 Maximu§

I mean my feet are dog tired, but we had fun.

Just messin' with you.

160 Opilio  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:54:02pm

re: #145 Temujin

Short People got no reason
Short People got no reason
Short People got no reason
To live

They got little hands
And little eyes
And they walk around
Tellin' great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet

Well, I don't want no Short People
Don't want no Short People
Don't want no Short People
Round here

~ Randy Newman

Are you old enough to remember when that song first came out? (Some) People were offended by this obvious parody of bigotry.

161 Catttt  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:54:37pm

re: #156 EIDE_Interface

Just keep it a secret that Palin's glasses are a designer brand from Japan...

I know. I already looked them up. I need a new pair of glasses, as it happens.........

I also want her bangs - I need a haircut......

162 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:56:03pm

re: #161 Catttt

If I still had hair, I'd never wear it like Palins.

163 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:56:04pm

re: #157 Catttt

Every wonder why Mickey Mouse wears pants and Donald Duck runs around without any pants on?

Walt Disney was a freaky guy. His frozen head is cryogenically held in a facility about 15 miles from my house. I want to be there when they thaw him out. I have some questions for him.

164 Temujin  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:56:44pm

re: #160 Opilio

The Never-Ending Search for all things Offensive is a full-time occupation.

165 Maximu§  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:57:05pm

re: #158 IslandLibertarian

oh, those dogs.
But did you get some Mouse ears?


Naw, but the Haunted House was closed, Its a Small World was closed, Thunder Mountain broke down, Splash Mountain broke down, Indiana Jones had only one track operating etc etc etc....

166 Gearhead  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:58:21pm

Well, it's way past my bedtime.

Nite all.

167 coquimbojoe  Sat, Sep 20, 2008 11:59:47pm

Some more Islandic mood music....

168 Temujin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:01:21am

Something in my refrigerator is calling my name softly.

I'll be back.

169 Desert Dog  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:02:28am

re: #167 coquimbojoe

Some more Islandic mood music....

Iceland is calling

170 Catttt  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:02:42am

Kawasaki 704 - on sale.

171 nightwatch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:02:52am

Did ya see it tonight?

UH....well ....I...ah... no...well I thought I saw it.....but...
iiiittt...was there...ya know... that GOOFY thing that..you know
up on top of the MATTERHORN.....with the big RED eyes and all....

Club 33 makes the best...I MEAN THE BEST! Dirty Martini's.....

anyway.......am I parked on J-Pluto..or B-Minnie?

172 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:04:38am

re: #165 Maximu§

Naw, but the Haunted House was closed, Its a Small World was closed, Thunder Mountain broke down, Splash Mountain broke down, Indiana Jones had only one track operating etc etc etc....

but you stayed for 12 hours.......The Happiest Place on Earth.

173 Catttt  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:05:00am

Goodnight, insomniacs and people on the late shift and/or in other time zones.

174 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:07:52am

re: #173 Catttt

Goodnight, insomniacs and people on the late shift and/or in other time zones.

goodnight Catttt from another time zone and high on scrip drugs.

175 spidly  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:09:32am

re: #8 yochanan

hello bluecanuk
something can be said for the length of canadian elections.

at least we don't do it as often as the Italians

176 OtisMyMan  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:18:07am

re: #157 Catttt

Every wonder why Mickey Mouse wears pants and Donald Duck runs around without any pants on?

Donald's got feathers.

177 nightwatch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:19:10am

But the TI KI ROOM is still the "coolest" place to hang on a hot day!

I am most correct!

Park Jumping takes training, especially if you have 4 or more kids!
Dad needs to biv-wack with a major pack to feed the masses so as not to break the bank assets! Any poster who has been to "THE PARK" will back my play!

Night ALL! ER SHIFT IN AM LOOMING!

178 Sprite  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:31:13am

re: #15 Gearhead

Yes, Gear, at about 1,000, you have me to look at, askance... ;)

Be well, All.

179 Sprite  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:41:06am

re: #178 Sprite

I was kidding, of course. Not all Lizards have the time to converse here. I'm an old fashioned, Southern girl. I believe if you speak you should stick around to respond to those who might answer (and I'm breaking my own rule right now). Most of the time that's not possible.

Must sleep.....

180 Temujin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:42:22am

re: #179 Sprite

Sweet dreams, Sprite.

181 Sprite  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:43:23am

re: #180 Temujin

Lovely...... Thank you!

182 Bosch Fawstin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:45:25am

Here's 'Ham'let, Pigman-style.

183 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:46:08am

how can Disneyland be the happiest place on earth when there isn't a bar on every corner?

184 Temujin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 12:48:48am

re: #183 redc1c4

Red : alcohol is so ... so 20th-century!

We have other ways to adjust your attitude . . .

185 spidly  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:07:49am

re: #183 redc1c4

how can Disneyland be the happiest place on earth when there isn't a bar on every corner?

nice pint of warm stout, just what you need before hitting the teacups

186 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:16:21am

re: #185 spidly

Coulda swore the teacups were hitting me repeatedly.

187 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:16:28am

re: #184 Temujin

Red : alcohol is so ... so 20th-century!

We have other ways to adjust your attitude . . .

you and many others....... i fought the army to a stand still. %-)

188 spidly  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:18:10am

re: #186 Fenway_Nation

Coulda swore the teacups were hitting me repeatedly.

that was just the peyote

189 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:18:32am

didjay'all see this? Palin as Lady Di?

190 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:26:22am

fruitcup taste tests are now being conducted.......

Blue Cannuck has the samples

191 Temujin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:30:13am

re: #189 redc1c4

The most interesting part there is the comments. And of course, the commenters!

Most of them sound ready to commit seppuku!

192 Edouard  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:34:21am

re: #134 Desert Dog

I'm voting for McCain because he is a short white guy like me. It does not matter what he believes in or what his policies are. He is a short white guy like me, so, I have to vote for him.....

Clearly, then, I must write in H.R. Pufnstuf for president, because he is more like me than any candidate.

I have dug his can-do attitude for more than 30 years.

193 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:36:58am

re: #191 Temujin

The most interesting part there is the comments. And of course, the commenters!

Most of them sound ready to commit seppuku!

Seppuku is an act of honor. Those people have none.

194 Temujin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:42:48am

re: #193 IslandLibertarian

Picky, picky . . .

/

195 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:44:28am

re: #194 Temujin

Picky, picky . . .

/

Honto!

196 Temujin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:48:31am

re: #195 IslandLibertarian

Gomenasai ...

197 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:51:44am

re: #196 Temujin

Nihonjin desuka?

198 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:54:41am

Gezunheit!

199 Temujin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:55:28am

re: #197 IslandLibertarian

No. But I have been fascinated by Eastern cultures since I was in my teens.

200 Temujin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:56:59am

re: #198 littleoldlady

Now, now, LoL. Serious discussion here!

BTW, good morning!

201 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:57:20am

Hai.
;-)

202 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:58:12am

re: #199 Temujin

I am also. Travel to Asia yearly.
Watashi no kanajo wa nihonjin desu.

203 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:59:02am

re: #198 littleoldlady

Gezunheit!

hanky?

204 Temujin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:59:17am

re: #201 littleoldlady

{LoL}!

205 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 1:59:33am

re: #201 littleoldlady

Hai.
;-)

and I'll have a little shoyu on my fruit cup...hold the wasabi.

206 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:00:02am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------------->
Help yourselves!

207 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:01:39am

my FIL served on the Showboat during the length of the late unpleasantness with our allies the japanese......

208 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:02:06am

re: #203 redc1c4

hanky?

Thanks. Saves messing up the linen napkins...

red! :-)

Temujin! :-)

IslandLibertarian! :-)

Pufnstuf! Edouard! :-)

209 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:02:16am

Sunday morning rum & fruicup....

210 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:02:31am

BlueCanuck! :-)

?

211 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:02:40am

re: #206 littleoldlady

Thanks littleoldlady, good morning. I think this will be my last fruitcup for a long time. Being a bad boy tonight and surfing the intertubes. New company policy says I can only use the net for "important" stuff and must log every such usage. I dare not say what I think.

212 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:02:53am

Fenway! :-)

How're my Phillies doing?

213 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:03:29am

re: #211 BlueCanuck

OH NOESSSSSSSSSSSSSS! :-( :-( :-(

214 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:04:25am

re: #207 redc1c4

That was a brutal war. It is interesting getting the Japanese perspective on it.
There is a lot of denial still, but today their love for America is unwavering.

215 Temujin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:05:41am

re: #202 IslandLibertarian

I am afraid you've exceeded my poor linguistic skills, IL.

I regret to say, I have not had an opportunity to visit Asia - except, in my mind.

Still a worthwhile trip . . .

216 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:08:01am

re: #215 Temujin

translation:
I have a Japanese girlfriend.
Go! Tokyo is a blast! Honk Kong is too.
Bali is another world altogether.
Thailand, take protection....

217 Temujin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:08:07am

re: #211 BlueCanuck

{Blue} ; too bad.

Who are the brain police ?

218 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:09:21am

re: #213 littleoldlady

Yeah, I know. Night shifts are really going to drag now. Give myself a month before I snap. Going to really push getting a day shift.

219 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:09:55am

re: #217 Temujin

Property management. That's all I will say now. They will be checking server logs.

220 Temujin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:11:19am

re: #216 IslandLibertarian

Sounds like a lot of fun, IL.

I have a few health problems which make travel difficult. No matter, my mind is free!

221 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:13:16am

re: #218 BlueCanuck

Yeah, I know. Night shifts are really going to drag now. Give myself a month before I snap. Going to really push getting a day shift.

Give ME a month before I snap, too!

/who's going to guard the fruitcup from red?!

222 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:15:20am

re: #220 Temujin

Sorry for your condition. And air travel has turned into a traumatic experience.
Google Shinjuku, Bali, etc..........get a taste.

223 Temujin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:18:11am

re: #222 IslandLibertarian

Oh, I certainly have not ruled out the possibility.

Waiting is. I am content.

224 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:18:14am

I'm going to try and get a few more minutes of sleep. (Horizonal-style vs sitting up in this chair.)

BBL. If I miss you...

Good day, ALL!™

{BlueCanuck!} :-(

225 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:18:50am

Half game out of the NL Wild card....or was it the NL East?

226 littleoldlady  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:19:35am

re: #225 Fenway_Nation

East, I think.

/we weren't in first place?
//not paying attention...

227 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:21:03am

Good morning, I think. Too dark yet to tell. But the Cubs are in the playoffs and that's all that matters at the moment.

228 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:22:50am

Bye littleoldlady. I may still see you from time to time. I do have access at home. :)

And with that I am out of here. I have pushed my luck too much tonight. See you all around the football. Stay scaly.

229 Temujin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:23:34am

re: #224 littleoldlady

Sleep well, littleoldlady. See you in a bit.

230 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:23:56am

re: #226 littleoldlady

Me neither, it being the NL and all.....plus I sometimes get distracted by college and NFL football this time of year.

But either way, they're in pretty good shape, but need to make hay with the remainder of the regular season to either make the playoffs or get themselves in better positioning for October.

/Looking like the last game ever in Yankee stadium tomorrow.

231 Temujin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:25:29am

re: #228 BlueCanuck

{Blue}. Take care. See you down the road.

232 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:26:20am

re: #228 BlueCanuck

Bye Blue!

233 Temujin  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:30:11am

I believe I'm going to close my eyes for a few minutes, too. Later, lizards ...

234 laZardo  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:31:05am

GYUUUUD EVENING.

I got my absentee ballot a few days ago. It's marked McCain and I'm just waiting for the post office to open on Monday to send it out. >_>

/now what?

235 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:32:04am

re: #234 laZardo

Hope someone actually counts it. What state is it for?

236 laZardo  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:34:33am
Hope someone actually counts it. What state is it for?

Unfortunately, California.

/gave consideration to "spiking" the tally with Nader...

237 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:36:40am

Oh shit....I think I gave a quasi-deranged BDS sufferer some general directions of obtaining an absentee ballot earlier this week.

238 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:37:21am

re: #211 BlueCanuck

Thanks littleoldlady, good morning. I think this will be my last fruitcup for a long time. Being a bad boy tonight and surfing the intertubes. New company policy says I can only use the net for "important" stuff and must log every such usage. I dare not say what I think.

sucks to be you......

(can you claim it as 'threat assesment'?)

239 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:39:29am

Absentee ballots generally favor Republican candidates; the unspoken national scandal is that they rarely ever get counted. In 2000 the number of uncounted absentee ballots in California was large enough that, had the division of votes followed the pattern observed in the previous two elections, GWB would have easily received enough votes to have had a majority of the popular vote. Now there wouldn't have been enough votes to change the results in California, which would still have gone for Gore -- that was the state's rationale in not counting them. But given the fact that better than 50%, bordering on 70% if I recall, of absentee ballots go for Republican candidates, there were enough of the things lying around to have ensured that the GWB would have trumped Gore at the national level.

Next time one of the "Florida-Ohio-Count every vote" conspiracy theorist starts fulminating, lay that one on them.

240 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:40:01am

re: #221 littleoldlady

Give ME a month before I snap, too!

/who's going to guard the fruitcup from red?!

like anyone can...... %-)

241 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:40:43am

re: #236 laZardo

Not a bad ploy -- since Gus Hall isn't around any more, Nader is the next best thing. Or would that be my former Congress-critter, Cynthia McKinney?

242 laZardo  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:41:26am

re: #237 Fenway_Nation

re: #239 Lucius Septimius

Well, that was a waste of ink... ]=

243 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:41:28am

re: #237 Fenway_Nation

Probably won't remember to mail it in. No blood; no foul.

244 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:43:31am

Sandra Bernhard hopes Palin gets gang-raped in NYC

245 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:45:30am

re: #244 EIDE_Interface

Saw that. Lovely people.

Why should I trust the political advice of people who are so filled with bile? Why should I think they will look out for me? And how can I possibly take them seriously when they toss around allegations of "hate speech"?

Clueless, unpleasant, and tedious.

246 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:49:10am

re: #245 Lucius Septimius

Saw that. Lovely people.

Why should I trust the political advice of people who are so filled with bile? Why should I think they will look out for me? And how can I possibly take them seriously when they toss around allegations of "hate speech"?

Clueless, unpleasant, and tedious.

sounds like EIDE......

247 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:49:43am

re: #245 Lucius Septimius

Saw that. Lovely people.

Why should I trust the political advice of people who are so filled with bile? Why should I think they will look out for me? And how can I possibly take them seriously when they toss around allegations of "hate speech"?

Clueless, unpleasant, and tedious.

Also gives Jews a bad name with her anti-Christian hate speech. She DOES NOT speak for any Jews.

248 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:50:27am

re: #246 redc1c4

sounds like EIDE......

Another example of EIDE-DS(derangement syndrome), equating that evil bile with anything I've posted here. Keep it up buddy.

249 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:50:53am

re: #247 EIDE_Interface

Also gives Jews a bad name with her anti-Christian hate speech. She DOES NOT speak for any Jews.

and who are you to speak for her, or for Jews, for that matter?

250 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:52:31am

re: #248 EIDE_Interface

Another example of EIDE-DS(derangement syndrome), equating that evil bile with anything I've posted here. Keep it up buddy.

if you're my buddy, do you have a pass tonight?

/just curious

251 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:53:06am

re: #249 redc1c4

and who are you to speak for her, or for Jews, for that matter?

I'm a Jew.

252 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:53:10am

re: #244 EIDE_Interface

I wouldn't fuck Sandra Berhnard with Bea Arthur's dick.

253 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:54:20am

re: #252 Fenway_Nation

I wouldn't fuck Sandra Berhnard with Bea Arthur's dick.

That's an extremely disgusting/disturbing image. 12/10.

254 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:54:21am

re: #252 Fenway_Nation

Feh!

255 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:54:39am

re: #252 Fenway_Nation

I wouldn't fuck Sandra Berhnard with Bea Arthur's dick.

/snork!

i don't care what anyone says: that there is funny!

256 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:55:26am

re: #251 EIDE_Interface

I'm a Jew.

sure you are........

/aren't we all?

257 Karridine  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:55:31am

re: #255 redc1c4

Sick!
Sick and tired... :(

258 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:55:56am

re: #257 Karridine

Sick!
Sick and tired... :(

Of .... ?

259 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:55:59am

re: #252 Fenway_Nation


OR Jeanine Garaffalo's dick, either....

260 Spirit93  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:56:02am

re: #252 Fenway_Nation

I have no idea what that means, but I dinged you anyway :-)

261 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:56:05am

re: #256 redc1c4

sure you are........

/aren't we all?

I'll have my mohel give you a call...

262 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:56:05am

re: #250 redc1c4

if you're my buddy, do you have a pass tonight?

/just curious

/aww, check out Red's soft side

263 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:56:17am

re: #257 Karridine

Sick!
Sick and tired... :(

they have meds for that....

264 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:58:28am

OK, back to bed. Maybe I can sleep some now.

265 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:58:47am

re: #261 EIDE_Interface

I'll have my mohel give you a call...

he's not rated for anything larger than micro surgery, is he?

266 redc1c4  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 2:59:16am

re: #262 Killian Bundy

/aww, check out Red's soft side

you know the joke, i'm guessing.......

267 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:08:21am

re: #266 redc1c4

you know the joke, i'm guessing.......

Well no, but yes, I can guess.

/when posting the 1611 King James version of Genesis doesn't quite cut it

268 laZardo  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:09:21am

Dinner. BBL.

269 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:10:53am

Why does there have to be such a thing as insomnia? Is this a curse for those of us who enjoyed a little too much sleep during our teen years?

Hello, folks.

270 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:11:59am

re: #269 vxbush

Why does there have to be such a thing as insomnia? Is this a curse for those of us who enjoyed a little too much sleep during our teen years?

Hello, folks.

/FLEAS!

271 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:15:31am

re: #270 Killian Bundy

/FLEAS!

/always vacuum your cat, if you dare

272 bp sf  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:26:04am

Good Morning.

Just donated to MEMRI.

273 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:26:20am

re: #270 Killian Bundy

/FLEAS!

Yeah, that could be it. I can't sleep in the bedroom because of the smell, so I'm out in the living room. So where do the cats want to lay? You got it.

Grrrrrrr. I'm never going to make it today.

274 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:27:05am

re: #271 Killian Bundy

/always vacuum your cat, if you dare

How I wish I could. My cat runs when she hears the vacuum; the other cat won't let me do it when I have the attachment on, but she doesn't mind it when I'm doing the floors.

I need a break from all this.

275 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:31:03am

re: #272 bp sf

Good Morning.

Just donated to MEMRI.

Good. I should do that, but I'm so tired of dealing with the fleas today I just can't get to it.

276 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:33:03am

re: #274 vxbush

How I wish I could. My cat runs when she hears the vacuum; the other cat won't let me do it when I have the attachment on, but she doesn't mind it when I'm doing the floors.

I need a break from all this.

Do your cats get to go outside?

/my cats cost too much, no way, no how

277 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:36:04am

re: #276 Killian Bundy

Do your cats get to go outside?

/my cats cost too much, no way, no how

Absolutely not. But there are two possible scenarios I can see to explain the fleas:

1. Daughter's cat had fleas back in March when she visited, and while we thought we got them all then, we may not have. They could have been lurking somewhere in the basement, and the cats have gone down to the basement recently.

2. With my husband's surgery, I've had a lot of people from a CNA service in the house to help care for my disabled son. One of them could have brought the flea(s) in.

Neither one makes me feel particularly better.

278 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:40:54am

re: #277 vxbush

2. With my husband's surgery, I've had a lot of people from a CNA service in the house to help care for my disabled son. One of them could have brought the flea(s) in. .

/that would be particularly disturbing

279 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:43:52am

re: #278 Killian Bundy

/that would be particularly disturbing

Yes, but unfortunately it is a distinct possibility. I wish these services would actually go into the homes of the people they want to hire and see how well they keep their own homes clean to determine how well they will work out as CNAs. I think it would be very revealing.

280 bp sf  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:46:23am

Our last cat (a long haired Japanese bobtail stray) was a flea magnet; those Advantage drops were heaven sent.

The current putty (common Tabby) hasn't had flea problems.

Allow me to link to her baby pic @ Kittenwar!

www.kittenwar.com/kittens/3126

281 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:48:32am

re: #280 bp sf

Our last cat (a long haired Japanese bobtail stray) was a flea magnet; those Advantage drops were heaven sent.

The current putty (common Tabby) hasn't had flea problems.

Allow me to link to her baby pic @ Kittenwar!

www.kittenwar.com/kittens/3126

Oh, very cute indeed. I have no baby pics of the cats in the house, but when they aren't flea-bitten monsters they are very adorable.

282 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:49:33am

Wow. The diggsters really hate Sarah Palin.

283 Spirit93  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:53:04am

re: #282 vxbush

F' em.

284 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:54:35am

re: #283 Spirit93

F' em.

Oh, I'm just watching the spy. It's interesting to me to see what bubbles up in real time.

285 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:57:21am

((((((vxbush))))))

286 bp sf  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 3:59:16am

Poor Achmed. Can't smoke. West Bank is a country already? Articles such as this prove we're well infiltrated.

RAMALLAH, West Bank —It's the fasting month of Ramadan, and fear of God keeps taxi driver Abdel Karim Romaneh from reaching for the pack of cigarettes next to his gearshift during the day, despite his pounding head and frazzled nerves.
But once the sun sets and the call of "Allahu Akbar" from Ramallah's mosques ends the daytime ban on food, drink and cigarettes, Romaneh indulges in his favorite vice.
"I don't want to quit smoking," said Romaneh, 42, who lights one Gauloise Light with another, inhaling deeply in between sips from a glass of thick Arabic coffee. "Smoking is a joy."
Like Romaneh in this West Bank Palestinian city, millions of Muslim smokers get on a nicotine roller coaster during Ramadan, which ends this year in late September. But health campaigners are increasingly trying to get them to quit altogether, using Ramadan as a springboard for anti-smoking drives.
A London mosque runs a "Stop smoking for Ramadan, stop smoking for life" appeal on its Web site, and a Saudi volunteer network is trying to bring that message to 10 million Arab Internet users.

[Link: www.mycentraljersey.com...]

287 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:01:01am

re: #285 MandyManners

((((((vxbush))))))

Did you just get up?

I have this overwhelming desire to go to a hotel and rent a room for the rest of the day so i can sleep, but I know it won't do any good.

288 Spirit93  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:07:34am

A while ago somebody put up a topic on digg: "Is digg biased?". (This was in the technology section, the only sections of digg I watch are science & tech). The first response: "Is this even a question?". Even the science and tech sections are overrun with moonbats, I'm don't mean politically, but just very naive. Too bad there isn't a digg for adults.

/or maybe that's LGF!

289 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:09:54am

re: #288 Spirit93

A while ago somebody put up a topic on digg: "Is digg biased?". (This was in the technology section, the only sections of digg I watch are science & tech). The first response: "Is this even a question?". Even the science and tech sections are overrun with moonbats, I'm don't mean politically, but just very naive. Too bad there isn't a digg for adults.

/or maybe that's LGF!

The problem is that at this time of the day I need something to do or to watch. I don't want to turn lights on because that will wake up the son (even down the hall, he can see the lights). So I have to do something in the dark. That just leaves the computer, and nothing else is jumping at this hour of the night/day.

They are completely biased. The top story right now over the last 24 hours has over 7600 digs, and is supposedly the best anti-McCain ad ever.

290 Spirit93  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:10:33am

re: #284 vxbush

ops, pimf

see #288

291 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:12:10am

re: #287 vxbush

I've been up for a while.

I wish you could go to a hotel, too. Is it insomnia?

292 Spirit93  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:12:38am

re: #289 vxbush

Did you bother looking at it?

293 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:16:45am

re: #291 MandyManners

I've been up for a while.

I wish you could go to a hotel, too. Is it insomnia?

Insomnia, and me feeling like fleas are walking all over me. I hate this. The cats have FrontLine, the house has been vacuumed like crazy, flea powder and/or spray has been used, and still I feel like bugs are walking over me.

I couldn't sleep in my bed because the flea powder smelled too strong and triggered asthma issues, so I tried to sleep in the living room. What did the cats do? Sleep on top of me, vying to see who was going to sleep closest to my face.

Yeah. It's not been a great night.

re: #292 Spirit93

Did you bother looking at it?

Why? My decision has been made. There is nothing McCain can do that would make me ever consider voting for Obama.

294 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:17:12am

OT...yeah, what topic?
As I type this, Captain Kirk is in mortal combat with "Charles" Gorn icon.
/where no man has gone before.........

295 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:20:15am

And I'm tweeking on Dexamethason-steroids......insomnia sounds restful.

296 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:21:14am

Saintly City Cat Club

Andy took this show by storm, piled up the ribbons as the oldest cat out of over 200. He's dead now.

/breeder wants to take Kitten Bill, only three quarters Exotic (grandfather jumped the fence) go for the non-purebred gold, what's $200?

297 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:25:54am

Good morning!

Hiya {vxbush}!

Fleas? Yuck.

Did you know there are over 2,000 varieties of fleas in the world, and over 200 types in the US alone? A female flea can lay up to 50 eggs a day, and each newly hatched flea can begin breeding within 48 hours.This means that one flea could within 9 months be responsible for producing over a trillion more fleas.

Killian Bundy!

LOL - love the caption.

298 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:26:18am

re: #296 Killian Bundy

Saintly City Cat Club

Andy took this show by storm, piled up the ribbons as the oldest cat out of over 200. He's dead now.

/breeder wants to take Kitten Bill, only three quarters Exotic (grandfather jumped the fence) go for the non-purebred gold, what's $200?

Haven't I seen Bill a bit recently on LOLCats? I could swear the cat I saw was a grownup version of Bill.

299 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:27:23am

re: #297 gettinby

Now that I've linked that, is there a difference between "dog" fleas and "cat" fleas?

300 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:28:00am

re: #299 gettinby

Now that I've linked that, is there a difference between "dog" fleas and "cat" fleas?

I believe so. There are specific species of fleas that are identified as "cat" fleas.

301 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:28:50am

re: #293 vxbush

I'm shivering just thinking about those nasty, little critters! I hope they all die.

The Kid puked twice last night, something he just doesn't do--maybe five times in his entire life. He thought it was pretty cool the first time but, he changed his mind by the time the second round hit. He sneezed a lot on Friday, and had a sore throat so, maybe he's coming down with something. I'm wearing my surgical mask every time I'm near him or in his room.

302 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:29:45am

re: #301 MandyManners

I'm shivering just thinking about those nasty, little critters! I hope they all die.

The Kid puked twice last night, something he just doesn't do--maybe five times in his entire life. He thought it was pretty cool the first time but, he changed his mind by the time the second round hit. He sneezed a lot on Friday, and had a sore throat so, maybe he's coming down with something. I'm wearing my surgical mask every time I'm near him or in his room.

What I need is something like a full-body latex glove. Maybe then I wouldn't feel like I'm feeling crawled over.

303 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:30:25am

re: #301 MandyManners

I'm shivering just thinking about those nasty, little critters! I hope they all die.

The Kid puked twice last night, something he just doesn't do--maybe five times in his entire life. He thought it was pretty cool the first time but, he changed his mind by the time the second round hit. He sneezed a lot on Friday, and had a sore throat so, maybe he's coming down with something. I'm wearing my surgical mask every time I'm near him or in his room.

Duh. How rude of me. I am sorry to hear that he's feeling so poorly, and you having to deal with it all. That's tough.

304 yochanan  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:30:46am

re: #293 vxbush

Why? My decision has been made. There is nothing McCain can do that would make me ever consider voting for Obama.

MY DECISION was made back last feb. for me it was either John McCain or Rudy and as much as i like Rudy he ran a very bad race so and since National Security and the Iranian bomb are my main issues and that as it turned out ONLY ONE PERSON RUNNING IS QUALIFIED TO BE C.I.C. from day one and that is John McCain and he was the most quified for that role of anyone running for the GOP nod.

And if Obama should win (bite my typing fingers) the rampent sexism and ageism coming from his camp will set back women and older people back a generation or more.

305 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:30:59am

re: #296 Killian Bundy

I wanna' squeeze the stuffing outta' Bill! What a babe!

306 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:31:07am

re: #298 vxbush

Haven't I seen Bill a bit recently on LOLCats? I could swear the cat I saw was a grownup version of Bill.


/he now sits taller than Bob, and Bob's 15 pounds

307 yochanan  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:31:35am

re: #299 gettinby

Now that I've linked that, is there a difference between "dog" fleas and "cat" fleas?

cat nip?

308 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:32:46am

We use "Advantage" for flea control on our cat. Works great and he is in and out all day and night.
But I've got a cockroach invasion going on tonight. Time to change the traps.
I think the cockroach was our state bird years back.

309 Sparkizzy  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:33:08am

It's that time of year again.

/sigh

310 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:33:18am

re: #302 vxbush

What I need is something like a full-body latex glove. Maybe then I wouldn't feel like I'm feeling crawled over.

Something like this?

311 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:34:20am

re: #303 vxbush

Duh. How rude of me. I am sorry to hear that he's feeling so poorly, and you having to deal with it all. That's tough.

It's not that bad 'cause it's rare but, he tends to whine.

312 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:35:21am

re: #302 vxbush

What I need is something like a full-body latex glove. Maybe then I wouldn't feel like I'm feeling crawled over.

I suggest a super hot shower and a rough scrub with ivory soap then an isopropal alcohol wipe down, and maybe a shot of the good stuff.

313 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:35:40am

re: #310 MandyManners

Something like this?

HA! I knew you were going to drag that up! I almost said something, and then decided to wait and see if you would.

Man. Perhaps I've been on LGF too long?

Nah.

So here's a question: at what point does someone become an "old timer" at LGF? I'm thinking I'm on the cusp.

314 JustAGal  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:35:52am

Good morning all. Question - the upcoming debate - does anyone know when the moderators (or if they have to) release the questions they will ask? Who sees them beforehand? I mean if someone else even types up the stuff, how likely is it that some MSM underling will give the info to the Obama camp?

Yup, I'm paranoid.

315 yochanan  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:36:42am

re: #299 gettinby

Now that I've linked that, is there a difference between "dog" fleas and "cat" fleas?

and female dog fleas have a desire to wear pant suits?

316 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:37:01am

re: #312 IslandLibertarian

I suggest a super hot shower and a rough scrub with ivory soap then an isopropol alcohol wipe down, and maybe a shot of the good stuff.

Well, it will be something close to that, but I'm going to wait a few more minutes before I jump in the shower. If the son doesn't get enough sleep, he's really really cranky. And he never sleeps well. He heard me get up at midnight and thought something was going on, so he yelled for attention.

317 yochanan  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:37:59am

re: #314 JustAGal

Good morning all. Question - the upcoming debate - does anyone know when the moderators (or if they have to) release the questions they will ask? Who sees them beforehand? I mean if someone else even types up the stuff, how likely is it that some MSM underling will give the info to the Obama camp?

Yup, I'm paranoid.

SOUNDS RATHER REALISTIC TO ME

318 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:38:08am

Cat fleas versus dog fleas

319 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:39:22am

re: #306 Killian Bundy

/he now sits taller than Bob, and Bob's 15 pounds

/born April 1st, he's going to be an incredibly large cat

320 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:40:02am

re: #314 JustAGal

Good morning all. Question - the upcoming debate - does anyone know when the moderators (or if they have to) release the questions they will ask? Who sees them beforehand? I mean if someone else even types up the stuff, how likely is it that some MSM underling will give the info to the Obama camp?

Yup, I'm paranoid.

I was under the impression that for most debates the debaters already know the questions. But that is hardly ever described at the opening of the debates.

321 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:40:04am

re: #313 vxbush

HA! I knew you were going to drag that up! I almost said something, and then decided to wait and see if you would.

Man. Perhaps I've been on LGF too long?

Nah.

So here's a question: at what point does someone become an "old timer" at LGF? I'm thinking I'm on the cusp.

Here since 10/04?

322 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:40:04am

re: #316 vxbush

How old is your son?
When my daughter was an infant, I learned the true meaning of unconditional love.
Now she's about to make me a grandfather.
She will learn what it is too.

323 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:40:37am

re: #319 Killian Bundy

/born April 1st, he's going to be an incredibly large cat

Got a current photo? Those evil eyes are cute in his kitten photo.

324 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:41:30am

re: #320 vxbush

I was under the impression that for most debates the debaters already know the questions. But that is hardly ever described at the opening of the debates.

If they can isolate Miss America contestants before the question session, why not presidential candidates?

325 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:42:03am

re: #322 IslandLibertarian

How old is your son?
When my daughter was an infant, I learned the true meaning of unconditional love.
Now she's about to make me a grandfather.
She will learn what it is too.

He'll be 24 soon, but he's severely disabled with a wicked sense of humor. He didn't really understand why mom and dad were cleaning like crazy yesterday, so he was pretty whiny about it.

326 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:42:31am

re: #324 MandyManners

If they can isolate Miss America contestants before the question session, why not presidential candidates?

but would there be a swimsuit modeling competition?

327 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:42:35am

re: #321 MandyManners

Here since 10/04?

Right. It seems to me the oldtimers are those who were here before the registration system went online, but perhaps that has changed.

328 JustAGal  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:42:50am

re: #324 MandyManners

If they can isolate Miss America contestants before the question session, why not presidential candidates?

snickering

329 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:43:37am

re: #324 MandyManners

If they can isolate Miss America contestants before the question session, why not presidential candidates?

I'm not saying they can't. But most debates involve known topics, and I thought the questions were often part of what was determined when the negotiations take place regarding venue, moderator, etc.

330 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:44:09am

re: #323 vxbush

Got a current photo? Those evil eyes are cute in his kitten photo.

/a month ago, but I'd have to downlod my camera

331 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:44:12am

re: #326 IslandLibertarian

but would there be a swimsuit modeling competition?

There's not a camera filter that can make Biden or McCain look better in that regard, I'm afraid.

332 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:46:28am

re: #331 vxbush

I don't know about that. A battle scared war hero standing up against a socialist/metrosexual/Zero.........My vote goes to the man with "The Red Badge of Courage".

333 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:46:39am

Ahoy matey's! A beautiful fall day in the ATL, Arrrrr, I love the fall!

334 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:47:51am

re: #332 IslandLibertarian

I don't know about that. A battle scared war hero standing up against a socialist/metrosexual/Zero.........My vote goes to the man with "The Red Badge of Courage".

Mine, too. But I'm not sure that would show up as well in a swimsuit competition, unfortunately. Certainly not the way the media always wants to fawn over the Big Zero.

re: #333 loflyer

Ahoy matey's! A beautiful fall day in the ATL, Arrrrr, I love the fall!

Morning.

335 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:49:10am

re: #324 MandyManners

If they can isolate Miss America contestants before the question session, why not presidential candidates?

Arrrrr. From what I have read, the debates have a 50 page document specifying what can and cannot be asked in the debates. These are not true debates, but scripted advertising for the respective parties. This truly sux. bring back real debates.....

336 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:49:12am

Some nut's on Fox telling people to gouge out the majority of bagel bread to make it as thin as toast. Why not just fix toast?

337 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:49:29am

re: #304 yochanan

And if Obama should win (bite my typing fingers) the rampent sexism and ageism coming from his camp will set back women and older people back a generation or more.

Well, you've about summed me up.

/and I don't wear pantsuits.

338 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:49:32am

re: #334 vxbush

Point taken. The media sees the Cover, not the pages of the Book.

339 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:49:55am

re: #326 IslandLibertarian

but would there be a swimsuit modeling competition?

That's for the VP slot.

340 JustAGal  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:50:21am

re: #335 loflyer

Arrrrr. From what I have read, the debates have a 50 page document specifying what can and cannot be asked in the debates. These are not true debates, but scripted advertising for the respective parties. This truly sux. bring back real debates.....

I had no idea

341 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:50:28am

re: #327 vxbush

Right. It seems to me the oldtimers are those who were here before the registration system went online, but perhaps that has changed.

Maybe it's a mentality?

342 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:51:01am

re: #329 vxbush

I'm not saying they can't. But most debates involve known topics, and I thought the questions were often part of what was determined when the negotiations take place regarding venue, moderator, etc.

I'd give them the questions the day before.

343 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:52:05am

re: #341 MandyManners

Maybe it's a mentality?

Oh, to be sure. I guess I'm just trying to decide if I see more people online who were here before me or more after me.

344 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:52:29am

re: #326 IslandLibertarian

but would there be a swimsuit modeling competition?

No, thanks.

/picturing Biden.

345 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:52:50am

re: #335 loflyer

Arrrrr. From what I have read, the debates have a 50 page document specifying what can and cannot be asked in the debates. These are not true debates, but scripted advertising for the respective parties. This truly sux. bring back real debates.....

The candidates decide what can/cannot be asked?! That's nuts.

346 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:53:35am

re: #342 MandyManners

I'd give them the questions the day before.

Exactly. Only give them a little time to prepare. And could we possibly have a hard-hitting question for both contestants? Please?

347 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:53:37am

re: #343 vxbush

Oh, to be sure. I guess I'm just trying to decide if I see more people online who were here before me or more after me.

I was here after you, by about 20 months.

348 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:54:20am

re: #346 vxbush

Exactly. Only give them a little time to prepare. And could we possibly have a hard-hitting question for both contestants? Please?

What would be your hard-hitting question for BHO?

349 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:54:49am

re: #341 MandyManners

Maybe it's a mentality?

Heard in an AA meeting:
Q. How'd you get to be an old timer around here?
A. Right decisions.
Q. How'd you make them?
A. From experience.
Q. Where'd you get that?
A. Wrong decisions.

350 yochanan  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:55:11am

re: #326 IslandLibertarian

but would there be a swimsuit modeling competition?

ONLY FOR THE VPOTUS RACE

351 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:55:22am

re: #346 vxbush

Exactly. Only give them a little time to prepare. And could we possibly have a hard-hitting question for both contestants? Please?

And include decent followup questions to a rambling answer to the original question.

/specifically with Obama.

352 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:59:25am

re: #348 MandyManners

What would be your hard-hitting question for BHO?

I have several.

You claim to be running for hope and change. And yet during your tenure as a state senator you did nothing to change politics as usual, either in the senate or in your home town of Chicago. During your time as a federal senator, you have done next to nothing to change anything. Why should we believe you now?

Follow up question:
Why are you unwilling to explain your true relationships with William Ayers, Tony Rezko, Raines, etc. etc?

Follow-follow up question:

Tony Rezko was indicted in Chicago, and his trial brought in some of the biggest names in Illinois politics, including current governor Rod Blagojevitch. How can you claim Tony Rezko as a friend and as a political bundler, and yet claim that you are clean?

Why are the papers from the Annenberg Challenge not open for public viewing, despite being at a public library? What are you hiding?

353 Luigi  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 4:59:54am

Now that the kleig lights are turned off and the dust has settled it turns out that Congressman Mark Foley will not face charges for his involvement in that Congressional page scandal. However, the Democrat they picked to replace him, has his own sex scandal.

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

Apparently, Tim Mahoney, through one of his consultants, has paid a former staffer, Trish Allen, $250,000 in hush money to keep a sexual harassment lawsuit brought by Mrs. Allen against Congressman Mahoney from the public view.

And that's on top of a residency scandal.


The discrepancies in where Mahoney claims his primary residence and the address listed on his voter I.D. card (a barn) are supposedly due to the fact that Mahoney and his wife no longer share the same address.
354 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:02:45am

Oh, I forgot one:

How can you have the gaul to complain about Freddie Mac/Fannie Mae when one of their former leaders is helping your campiagn? How can you rail against them while accepting money from many of the biggest firms that are now on the verge of collapse?

355 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:02:53am

re: #340 JustAGal

I had no idea

Arrrrrr, Newt Gingrich and Mario Cuamo did a great debate last fall at the Lincoln center last fall. It was great to watch two classy and thoughtful politicians slug it out. It was a great debate and you left the debate feeling that you had watched Americans debating politics not as enemies, but as brothers searching for solutions for counties problems...Here is the link. Its about an hour long, First 10 minutes is introductions. Moderator is our late beloved Tim Russart, a true journalist of the highest caliber. God Bless you Tim! PS. Gingrich totally won over a NYC audience...

356 akak  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:03:55am

So the Marriott was used by Americans? huh

Big explosion to get 1 guy!

357 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:06:07am

re: #356 akak

So the Marriott was used by Americans? huh

Big explosion to get 1 guy!

/and they missed

358 akak  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:07:41am

re: #357 Killian Bundy

/and they missed


Who the rest of the Americans?

359 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:07:41am

re: #355 loflyer

It was a great debate and you left the debate feeling that you had watched Americans debating politics not as enemies, but as brothers searching for solutions for counties problems

Something is coming up on the campuses near me called Trust Me; I'm a Voter. Apparently they are trying to sign up new voters and discuss issues, but given that this is happening on college campuses where the majority of professors and students are democrat, I'm a bit concerned that it isn't as apolitical as it sounds. I would like it to be what you describe: a forum for finding solutions, but I'm afraid it isn't. But I have nothing to go on but a gut feeling.

360 vxbush  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:08:25am

Okay. Now I have to get ready for church and get the rest of the brood up.

Hopefully I'll be online later. No, scratch that. Hopefully I'll be taking a nap later!

361 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:09:50am

re: #358 akak

Who the rest of the Americans?

/who's dead and who's not?

362 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:10:41am

re: #357 Killian Bundy

/and they missed

Yaaaar, Isn't it interesting how the US has introduced the 250 pound smart bombs to limit collateral damage, whilst Islamic terrorists deploy ever larger bombs and are losing the war on terror because the majority of the Muslims are aghast at the "collateral" death and destruction of fellow Muslims....

363 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:11:47am

re: #349 IslandLibertarian

Heard in an AA meeting:
Q. How'd you get to be an old timer around here?
A. Right decisions.
Q. How'd you make them?
A. From experience.
Q. Where'd you get that?
A. Wrong decisions.

I'm reminded of The Kid, one of those who must live something instead of taking advice.

364 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:13:33am

re: #352 vxbush

I have several.

You claim to be running for hope and change. And yet during your tenure as a state senator you did nothing to change politics as usual, either in the senate or in your home town of Chicago. During your time as a federal senator, you have done next to nothing to change anything. Why should we believe you now?

Follow up question:
Why are you unwilling to explain your true relationships with William Ayers, Tony Rezko, Raines, etc. etc?

Follow-follow up question:

Tony Rezko was indicted in Chicago, and his trial brought in some of the biggest names in Illinois politics, including current governor Rod Blagojevitch. How can you claim Tony Rezko as a friend and as a political bundler, and yet claim that you are clean?

Why are the papers from the Annenberg Challenge not open for public viewing, despite being at a public library? What are you hiding?

He'd wind up curled in the fetal position under the lectern.

365 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:14:11am

re: #363 MandyManners

I'm reminded of The Kid, one of those who must live something instead of taking advice.

For a split second, I thought you might be talking about Obama.

(And, I'm sorry to hear your son isn't feeling well. Throwing up is definitely one of the I'd rather nots.)

366 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:14:23am

re: #363 MandyManners

I'm reminded of The Kid, one of those who must live something instead of taking advice.

I took the same path. Had to learn the hard way.

367 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:15:57am

re: #353 Luigi

Now that the kleig lights are turned off and the dust has settled it turns out that Congressman Mark Foley will not face charges for his involvement in that Congressional page scandal. However, the Democrat they picked to replace him, has his own sex scandal.

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

He comes with a built-in sex scandal.

368 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:16:51am

re: #354 vxbush

Oh, I forgot one:

How can you have the gaul to complain about Freddie Mac/Fannie Mae when one of their former leaders is helping your campiagn? How can you rail against them while accepting money from many of the biggest firms that are now on the verge of collapse?

I'd pay money to see that.

369 akak  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:17:43am

re: #361 Killian Bundy

/who's dead and who's not?


ask Fox they have the video of truck attacking catching fire, but no explosion - strange maybe the batteries ran out

Maybe they got it from their Prince al-Towel.

370 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:18:09am

re: #358 akak

Who the rest of the Americans?

I don't know about them but, the Czech ambassador was killed.

371 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:18:12am

Obama's ads - filled with lies and falsehoods.

so tired.

Morning all!

372 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:18:52am

re: #360 vxbush

Have a good day!

373 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:19:43am

re: #364 MandyManners

He'd wind up curled in the fetal position under the lectern.

Mates, The Obama campaign has much to hide. They cannot reveal his true Marxist ideology because they will lose the electorate. Most Americans sense this and I predict a land slide victory for the McCain/Palin ticket. McCain picking Palin as his running mate destroyed the Democrats credibility. The media is digging their own grave with their pit-bull attacks against Palin and her family.
/Obama will go down like Carter in 1980.

374 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:19:45am

re: #365 gettinby

For a split second, I thought you might be talking about Obama.

(And, I'm sorry to hear your son isn't feeling well. Throwing up is definitely one of the I'd rather nots.)

Thanks!

At least he was able to make it to his bathroom.

375 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:19:52am

re: #369 akak

ask Fox they have the video of truck attacking catching fire, but no explosion - strange maybe the batteries ran out

Maybe they got it from their Prince al-Towel.

/how many Americans did they kill?

376 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:20:40am

re: #371 FrogMarch

Obama's ads - filled with lies and falsehoods.

so tired.

Morning all!

Ahoy Frog!

377 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:21:15am

re: #366 IslandLibertarian

I took the same path. Had to learn the hard way.

Trying to pound advice into such a person (I know whereof I speak) only makes him more determined to learn it on his own.

378 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:21:43am

re: #369 akak

ask Fox they have the video of truck attacking catching fire, but no explosion - strange maybe the batteries ran out

Maybe they got it from their Prince al-Towel.

That camera likely got blown to smithereens.

379 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:21:44am

morning all,
bacon and eggs for breakfast,
just made another pot of coffee,(I drank the first one, yeah I've been up
awhile)

who wants some?

380 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:23:18am

re: #373 loflyer

Mates, The Obama campaign has much to hide. They cannot reveal his true Marxist ideology because they will lose the electorate. Most Americans sense this and I predict a land slide victory for the McCain/Palin ticket. McCain picking Palin as his running mate destroyed the Democrats credibility. The media is digging their own grave with their pit-bull attacks against Palin and her family.
/Obama will go down like Carter in 1980.

I'm seeing more and more McCain/Palin stickers and signs, and very few for BHO.

381 akak  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:23:58am

re: #378 MandyManners

That camera likely got blown to smithereens.

but not the video on Fox?

382 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:24:04am

re: #377 MandyManners

Trying to pound advice into such a person (I know whereof I speak) only makes him more determined to learn it on his own.

Yaaar, I can understand you frustration, but it sounds like the "Kid" has true character and will develop into a strong, self reliant personality. Nothing wrong with that...

383 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:24:19am

re: #379 rain of lead

morning all,
bacon and eggs for breakfast,
just made another pot of coffee,(I drank the first one, yeah I've been up
awhile)

who wants some?

I'm working on a mug of tea but, I'd love some bacon and eggs.

384 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:25:22am

re: #381 akak

but not the video on Fox?

That video was from just before the explosion.

385 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:25:29am

re: #380 MandyManners

morning Mandy,

what the hell happened to UT yesterday? they wuz playing like crap, I thought Fulmer was gonna have a stroke.

386 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:25:29am

re: #375 Killian Bundy

/how many Americans did they kill?

/of course, the answer is zero

387 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:26:10am

Palin is coming to a HUGE retirement city in Florida.

The first comment under the article is a "doozy."

388 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:26:19am

"The majority of left-wing blogs are absolutely loving the financial crisis. It's the rapture of the marxists."

I was invited to go to a very fancy and expensive restaurant last night in a very liberal town. I looked around, and the place was packed. I thought we were in a recession?

389 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:26:43am

re: #383 MandyManners

I'm working on a mug of tea but, I'd love some bacon and eggs.

bacon crispy and how would you like your eggs? scrambled with cheese ok?

390 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:27:01am

re: #376 loflyer

Hey there Loflyer!

391 Tamron  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:27:02am

re: #352 vxbush

Follow up question:
Why are you unwilling to explain your true relationships with William Ayers, Tony Rezko, Raines, etc. etc? ... Why are the papers from the Annenberg Challenge not open for public viewing, despite being at a public library? What are you hiding?

Here's a video of Obama talking about his connection to the Annenberg Challenge.
.

392 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:28:00am

re: #382 loflyer

Yaaar, I can understand you frustration, but it sounds like the "Kid" has true character and will develop into a strong, self reliant personality. Nothing wrong with that...

He can say "please" 50 times in 20 seconds. It doesn't get him an inch. If I don't agree to something the first time, I NEVER change my mind. I don't want him to think that he can push me around.

393 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:28:47am

re: #380 MandyManners

I'm seeing more and more McCain/Palin stickers and signs, and very few for BHO.

Arrrrrr, I have seen only one McCain/Plain sign in the ATL suburbs. Either the signs are not available around here, or the conservatives are too scared of vandalism to display. On the positive side I have seen many signs for my class mate Tom Stubbs for a judges position. Tom is a stand-up guy and its nice to see the support for him....

394 reine.de.tout  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:29:36am

Good morning!

Coffee, anyone?

395 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:30:01am

re: #385 rain of lead

morning Mandy,

what the hell happened to UT yesterday? they wuz playing like crap, I thought Fulmer was gonna have a stroke.

I heard that the fans actually booed! That's never happened before. And, they left Neyland before the game was anywhere near finished.

396 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:30:04am

re: #386 Killian Bundy

/of course, the answer is zero

I thought I heard on the first news reports that we lost 1 military; that some others of our military were in the dining room and did not get hurt?

397 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:31:09am

re: #387 gettinby

Palin is coming to a HUGE retirement city in Florida.

The first comment under the article is a "doozy."

That is the community that Joe sings about in this video.

Youtube Video

398 akak  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:31:32am

re: #386 Killian Bundy

/of course, the answer is zero

None there?

399 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:31:46am

re: #389 rain of lead

bacon crispy and how would you like your eggs? scrambled with cheese ok?

And, lotsa' pepper.

400 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:32:03am

re: #392 MandyManners

He can say "please" 50 times in 20 seconds. It doesn't get him an inch. If I don't agree to something the first time, I NEVER change my mind. I don't want him to think that he can push me around.

Keep it up me Beauty! I remember throwing a tantrum in the grocery store at around three years old, and my mother walloped the hell out of me. Thanks Mom!

401 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:32:25am

re: #396 gettinby

In this report, it states that one American citizen is dead.

402 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:32:28am

re: #395 MandyManners

I heard that the fans actually booed! That's never happened before. And, they left Neyland before the game was anywhere near finished.

Fulmer firing count down in 3...2...1....

403 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:32:53am

re: #393 loflyer

Arrrrrr, I have seen only one McCain/Plain sign in the ATL suburbs. Either the signs are not available around here, or the conservatives are too scared of vandalism to display. On the positive side I have seen many signs for my class mate Tom Stubbs for a judges position. Tom is a stand-up guy and its nice to see the support for him....

I bet it's the latter.

404 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:33:26am

re: #394 reine.de.tout

Top o' the day!

405 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:33:36am

re: #399 MandyManners

And, lotsa' pepper.

Very good Ma'am
your order will be ready shortly.

406 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:34:00am

re: #394 reine.de.tout

Good morning!

Coffee, anyone?

Yaar, How about some grog?
/Yeah its early, but life is short.....

407 reine.de.tout  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:34:00am

re: #388 FrogMarch

"The majority of left-wing blogs are absolutely loving the financial crisis. It's the rapture of the marxists."

I was invited to go to a very fancy and expensive restaurant last night in a very liberal town. I looked around, and the place was packed. I thought we were in a recession?

We are so wealthy in this country - so many people take it for granted.

Even when times are bad - most of us will have at least one car in the family, often 2 or 3; there will be several TV sets in the house; often, a computer or two; a cell phone for every family member; hot and cold running water in the house.

These are things many people in other parts of the world can only dream about.

408 reine.de.tout  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:35:10am

re: #406 loflyer

Yaar, How about some grog?
/Yeah its early, but life is short.....

Ha!
I see you are still in pirate mode!

I'm actually starting to enjoy your masquerade.

409 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:35:32am

re: #397 MandyManners

That is the community that Joe sings about in this video.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

LOL

Don't let that man drive a golf cart!

410 akak  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:35:54am

re: #384 MandyManners

That video was from just before the explosion.

Thought you said it was blown to smithereens?
Did Fox fix it or did cameraman know when to stop and then email to Fox?

411 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:36:15am

re: #400 loflyer

Keep it up me Beauty! I remember throwing a tantrum in the grocery store at around three years old, and my mother walloped the hell out of me. Thanks Mom!

I don't recall any tantrums in public. (Of course, that doesn't mean they didn't happen--maybe my brain erased the memories.) His speciality in public was to stand up in the cart in the check-out line and announce to the world that he had a penis, and to ask if anyone wanted to see it.

412 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:36:50am

re: #402 rain of lead

Fulmer firing count down in 3...2...1....

One effin' mess shouldn't lead to automatic firing.

413 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:36:56am

re: #394 reine.de.tout

Good morning!

Coffee, anyone?

good morning reine..love a cup..thanks..
yawn..whad up lizards?

414 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:37:28am

re: #405 rain of lead

Very good Ma'am
your order will be ready shortly.

Changed my mind. I'll have a Denver omelet with extra tomatoes and onion, hold the mushrooms.

415 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:37:54am

re: #408 reine.de.tout

Ha!
I see you are still in pirate mode!

I'm actually starting to enjoy your masquerade.

Thanks matey, I will make a pirate out of you yet!

416 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:38:40am

re: #409 gettinby

LOL

Don't let that man drive a golf cart!

I hope that's a girl poodle.

417 reine.de.tout  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:39:06am

re: #413 HoosierHoops

good morning reine..love a cup..thanks..
yawn..whad up lizards?

HH - Did I hear you right yesterday? Is today your birthday?

Happy Birthday!

I posted it to you last night, but you left, I think, before you got it.

418 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:39:09am

re: #410 akak

Thought you said it was blown to smithereens?
Did Fox fix it or did cameraman know when to stop and then email to Fox?

It was a surveillance camera.

419 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:40:36am

here is a song for all us old pirates
A pirate looks at 40

420 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:40:51am

re: #411 MandyManners

I don't recall any tantrums in public. (Of course, that doesn't mean they didn't happen--maybe my brain erased the memories.) His speciality in public was to stand up in the cart in the check-out line and announce to the world that he had a penis, and to ask if anyone wanted to see it.

Arrrr! The "Kid" has true pirate potential!

421 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:42:23am

re: #419 rain of lead

here is a song for all us old pirates
A pirate looks at 40

Yaaaar! Thanks Rain!

422 usmc1968  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:42:54am

Morning, notice I didn't "GOOD", but I should have. Every day above ground is a good day.

423 reine.de.tout  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:43:23am

re: #411 MandyManners

I don't recall any tantrums in public. (Of course, that doesn't mean they didn't happen--maybe my brain erased the memories.) His speciality in public was to stand up in the cart in the check-out line and announce to the world that he had a penis, and to ask if anyone wanted to see it.

LOL!

I had a friend once who worked the switchboard at Sears.

One evening she got a call from the sales floor - some kid apparently mistook the plumbing toilet display for the real thing!

424 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:43:31am

re: #417 reine.de.tout

HH - Did I hear you right yesterday? Is today your birthday?

Happy Birthday!

I posted it to you last night, but you left, I think, before you got it.

Yes..Today is my birthday..i'm up too early and we were out too late..
Within hours the party will start..the beer will flow and i'll be my normal boisterous self..laughing..eating....
/then presents..oh boy oh boy!

425 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:43:41am

re: #407 reine.de.tout

We are so wealthy in this country - so many people take it for granted.

Even when times are bad - most of us will have at least one car in the family, often 2 or 3; there will be several TV sets in the house; often, a computer or two; a cell phone for every family member; hot and cold running water in the house.

These are things many people in other parts of the world can only dream about.

Hi Reine. Agreed. We are a wealthy nation and we take our high standard of living for granted. Whenever we hit a bump in the road it seems the democrats want to rush in and fix it with more regulation and big daddy government.

426 Kenneth  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:44:50am

re: #411 MandyManners

Boys will be boys. Occasional Reader has been banned from several grocery chains for the same reason.

427 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:45:32am

re: #422 usmc1968

Morning, notice I didn't "GOOD", but I should have. Every day above ground is a good day.

Your right matey! Good gay to you, and keep breathing!

428 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:45:48am

re: #412 MandyManners

One effin' mess shouldn't lead to automatic firing.


you are right and I am a fan of Fulmers, but the naysayers will be screaming for his head, I hate to say it but I see this season as a trainwreck, if we lose too many more games (have you seen how bama
is playing?) you will hear the calls to him to be canned as far away as the moon :(

429 akak  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:45:51am

re: #418 MandyManners

It was a surveillance camera.

no flash when it exploded, strange story?

no Americans, no flash, Czech Amb story just went up on Fox website, video just disappeared from their website

430 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:46:17am

re: #427 loflyer

Your right matey! Good gay to you, and keep breathing!

good gay to you also
LOL

431 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:46:20am

re: #424 HoosierHoops

Happy Birthday.

I've got one coming up in a couple of days.

432 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:46:27am

Anyone see Obama's ad blaming McCain for jobs lost to China?

This is the same man who just weeks ago said China was superior to the US.

433 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:46:52am

Four hours to NFL kick-off. (time zone challenged here)
I'm going to try to get some sleep.
God Bless you all.

NObama!

434 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:47:37am

re: #420 loflyer

Arrrr! The "Kid" has true pirate potential!

I laughed as I hoped for the floor to open up and swallow me.

435 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:47:56am

re: #422 usmc1968

GOOD MORNING!

436 Kenneth  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:48:16am

re: #388 FrogMarch

"The majority of left-wing blogs are absolutely loving the financial crisis. It's the rapture of the marxists."

I was invited to go to a very fancy and expensive restaurant last night in a very liberal town. I looked around, and the place was packed. I thought we were in a recession?

But the little people are suffering, bitter & clinging, and that's who they care about. This zinfandel is a delightful, don't you think?

437 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:48:29am

re: #431 Lucius Septimius

Happy Birthday.

I've got one coming up in a couple of days.

happy birthday to you soon..you virgo you...

438 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:48:38am

Lots of September birthdays - Happy Birthday to you all!

/September is one of my favorite months.

439 usmc1968  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:49:37am

re: #435 MandyManners

Morning, how are you?

440 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:49:37am

re: #435 MandyManners

your breakfast is ready
I hope everything is cooked to your satisfaction?

441 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:49:50am

re: #423 reine.de.tout

LOL!

I had a friend once who worked the switchboard at Sears.

One evening she got a call from the sales floor - some kid apparently mistook the plumbing toilet display for the real thing!

Oh, my stars! No matter how close a watch you have on a child, the little darling can get away very quickly. That poor parent.

442 mama winger  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:49:53am

Baruch Adonai - Shout for joy unto the Lord!

Youtube Video

The nations of the earth will praise the Lord
And Israel will say 'Amen'!

443 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:49:58am

re: #434 MandyManners

I laughed as I hoped for the floor to open up and swallow me.

Ever seen those wanna get away commercials?
sooo embarrassing

444 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:49:58am

re: #437 HoosierHoops

Libra-Virgo Cusp, which means I'm passive aggressive and a push-over, I think.

445 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:50:18am

re: #426 Kenneth

Boys will be boys. Occasional Reader has been banned from several grocery chains for the same reason.

ROFLMAO!

446 Kenneth  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:50:20am

re: #134 Desert Dog

I'm voting for McCain because he is a short white guy like me. It does not matter what he believes in or what his policies are. He is a short white guy like me, so, I have to vote for him.....

I like McCain because he's a grouchy old white guy just like me.

447 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:50:27am

re: #427 loflyer

Your right matey! Good gay to you, and keep breathing!

Arrrrrr! Bad speeling mistake. I meant day not gay> Please don't shoot me, USMC. And I will understand if you do.......

448 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:50:29am

re: #422 usmc1968

Hello! and mornin' backatcha.

It's always good to see you.

449 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:50:41am

re: #442 mama winger

Go Cubs!

450 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:51:20am

Good morning from a coolish (61 degrees going up to 77 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

451 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:51:28am

re: #442 mama winger

Hey there!

452 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:52:02am

re: #443 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops! Happy Birthday to you - and many, many more!

453 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:52:07am

re: #428 rain of lead

you are right and I am a fan of Fulmers, but the naysayers will be screaming for his head, I hate to say it but I see this season as a trainwreck, if we lose too many more games (have you seen how bama
is playing?) you will hear the calls to him to be canned as far away as the moon :(

UTK fans can be fanatical. I remember growing up that if UT won, Dad would be in a great mood and we could do just about anything. If UT lost, we knew to clear out of the house.

454 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:52:48am

re: #429 akak

no flash when it exploded, strange story?

no Americans, no flash, Czech Amb story just went up on Fox website, video just disappeared from their website

From what I've gathered, the camera was blown at the moment the bomb went off.

455 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:52:53am

re: #450 realwest

Tired after a frustrating football saturday. How you doin'?

456 usmc1968  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:52:56am

re: #447 loflyer

Believe me, I have heard much worse. Not a problem.

457 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:53:41am

re: #439 usmc1968

Morning, how are you?

Finer than a frog's hair split three ways. How are you?

458 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:54:13am

re: #444 Lucius Septimius

Libra-Virgo Cusp, which means I'm passive aggressive and a push-over, I think.

Yaaaar, Lucius, good to see you, Noam and I are working on a monthly meet of ATL lizards. Second Sunday of the month, 5 PM at Manuals Tavern near Little five points....

459 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:54:18am

re: #444 Lucius Septimius

Libra-Virgo Cusp, which means I'm passive aggressive and a push-over, I think.

yea..as a virgo I'm supposed to be a neat freak...I'm not
I'm supposed to be really smart too...we know that's not the case
I'm not who i thought i was
/throwing himself under the virgo bus

460 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:54:43am

re: #440 rain of lead

your breakfast is ready
I hope everything is cooked to your satisfaction?

I didn't order this. I ordered a Denver omelet. Where's my omelet? Remember? No mushrooms, extra tomatoes and onion?

461 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:55:10am

re: #442 mama winger
Hey {mama} Baruch Adonai indeed! Gee, I've missed you out here a lot!
Uh, according to my calender, Rosh Hashahah doesn't start until Tuesday - am I wrong about that?!

462 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:55:25am

re: #452 realwest

Hey Hoops! Happy Birthday to you - and many, many more!

Thank you so much real..
I wish you the very best

463 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:55:30am

re: #450 realwest

Good morning from a coolish (61 degrees going up to 77 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

Morning Real. A great day to be alive....Arrrrrr!

464 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:55:34am

re: #443 HoosierHoops

Ever seen those wanna get away commercials?
sooo embarrassing

Everyone around us fell out laughing. The little shit just grinned and grinned.

465 usmc1968  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:55:42am

re: #448 gettinby

Good to be able to be here, hope everyone is good.

466 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:55:48am

re: #453 MandyManners

UTK fans can be fanatical. I remember growing up that if UT won, Dad would be in a great mood and we could do just about anything. If UT lost, we knew to clear out of the house.

Hahaha, sounds like me and your dad are twins, :)
I love UT, even in the bad times, makes the good times so much better.

467 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:56:26am

re: #444 Lucius Septimius

There you are! How's the family? School?

468 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:56:37am

re: #450 realwest

And a celebratory hello to you from the winning Rays Town (finally).

I read a good post last night...something to the effect that we will know when it's the end of the world, 7th game in the series, bottom of the 9th, Cubs vs. Rays, tie game.

469 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:57:09am

re: #442 mama winger

Baruch Adonai - Shout for joy unto the Lord!

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

The nations of the earth will praise the Lord
And Israel will say 'Amen'!

Good morning to you! Did you go to sleep with a smile on your face?

470 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:57:10am

re: #455 Lucius Septimius
Good morning Lucius - gee it's almost like old-home week today! What a pleasant surprise to see you!
I'm also tired, but just from not getting enough sleep!
What happened yesterday to wear you out?

471 usmc1968  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:58:14am

re: #457 MandyManners

You know what they say "I'VE BEEN BETTER, BUT IT COSTS MORE"

472 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:58:20am

re: #456 usmc1968
Hey there - good morning to you, too! How are you doing this morning?

473 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:59:09am

re: #460 MandyManners

I didn't order this. I ordered a Denver omelet. Where's my omelet? Remember? No mushrooms, extra tomatoes and onion?

well at the ROL diner you can order anything you want but you are gonna get bacon and eggs

"chee burger chee burger ,chips no fries chips"
channling belushi

474 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:59:13am

re: #468 gettinby

And a celebratory hello to you from the winning Rays Town (finally).

I read a good post last night...something to the effect that we will know when it's the end of the world, 7th game in the series, bottom of the 9th, Cubs vs. Rays, tie game.

The world doesn't get to end until realwest and the hoopster get to see our teams play against each other in the SuperBowl..
Headline: Manning Wins!

475 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:59:16am

re: #466 rain of lead

Hahaha, sounds like me and your dad are twins, :)
I love UT, even in the bad times, makes the good times so much better.

Have you seen this?

Youtube Video

476 VISIgoth63  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:59:16am

Must view...

[Link: www.reuters....] com/news/ video?videoId= 91025&feedType=VideoRSS&feedName=TopNews&a mp;rpc=23&videoChannel= 1&sp=true

477 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:59:34am

Lizard Prayer List 9/21/08
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope

Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.


Thanksgivings
realwest: recovered from dental issues
vxhush: husband recovering well from rotator cuff surgery
Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke, practically fully recovered
Loppyd: future plans

Health issues:
Pingjockey: friend Bob with a carcinoma, recovering from surgery
LeePro: major oral surgery in July
A Lizard who underwent surgery Monday, 8/17/08
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), which is caused by something else, in most cases rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: cancer; mom Type II diabetes
Dolphin: friend Stan, open heart surgery
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Vxbush: waiting for results of tests for wheat allergy
MigueldowninMexico: recovering from stroke
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
loppyd: step-father undergoing treatment for colon cancer
Macker: health issues and treatment
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
LanceKates: dad’s continued recovery from surgery
Tarkus289: father is in hospital; may have pneumonia after two strokes and stage 7 Alzheimer'
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain; facing another surgery
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
BenZacharia: wifffeee’s recovery from surgery
USMC1968: cancer

Family, friend, and life situations:
x-wing: various
HoosierHoops: 3/5th Marines deploying to Afghanistan in January (son Jordan is a platoon leader)
Mars Needs Neocons: job
Jcm: best result for new foster daughter
Pvt Bin Jammin: best friend’s passing
Josephine: painful loss
Vxbush: daughter traveling overseas
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Sarah: and her husband in the process of moving to Arizona for husband’s schooling
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
wolfie: nephew (USAR) who is being sent into the thick of things in Iraq.
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Maximus: son reports for active duty in August.
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: EH/kids; losing cousin and aunt within 4 months
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
DorianGrey: much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general

Community issues:
US Election
Georgia/Ossetia
Those dealing with the Hurricanes
Gilad Schalit, for his release.
The contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

478 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 5:59:49am

re: #471 usmc1968

You know what they say "I'VE BEEN BETTER, BUT IT COSTS MORE"

LOL! I've never heard that one!

479 Kenneth  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:00:06am

Palin and Obama—What Really is Wisdom? by VDH (so you know it's good!)

So who is really experienced?

The point is this: I think it is much harder for a mother of three or four in an out-of-the-way Alaskan town to get elected to city council and the mayorship, then take on the entire Republican establishment and get elected governor than it is for a Barack Obama to emerge from Chicago politics into the Illinois state house and later Senate. The qualities that allowed a Palin to succeed without the power spouse, the identity politics, the Ivy-League cache, the fawning New York editors and DC insider-press will ensure she does not implode on the campaign trail—and won’t in office either.

Barack Obama, in contrast, on numerous occasions has complained how tiring, how hard, how unfair, how racist the campaign has turned out to be; Palin never. I could not imagine Obama doing his hope and change thing in the Senate while holding a one-year-old and checking on four more children at home. And I wager shooting a moose or trying to navigate a snowmobile in the chill is a little harder than shooting baskets in one’s down time or offering riffs to the fainting at a Beverly Hills get together or Presidio Heights fundraiser.

480 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:00:08am

re: #468 gettinby
Hi {gettingby} - well I wouldn't worry so much over that EVER happening! LOL!
/ducks and runs hobbles away really fast!
How are you doing today?

481 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:00:33am

re: #473 rain of lead

well at the ROL diner you can order anything you want but you are gonna get bacon and eggs

"chee burger chee burger ,chips no fries chips"
channling belushi

Who's gonna' do the Blutarski "zit" with the eggs?

482 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:00:44am

re: #444 Lucius Septimius

Libra-Virgo Cusp, which means I'm passive aggressive and a push-over, I think.

I've had the pleasure of being around 6 Virgos in my immediate family over the last 20 years.

Nicey-nice, intelligent, good looking, BUT...

you DON'T want to push them too far.

/Niceness does NOT mean weakness.

483 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:01:30am

re: #477 goddessoftheclassroom

Yaaaar, morning shipmate! Many thanks for the prayer list...

484 usmc1968  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:01:58am

re: #472 realwest

485 reine.de.tout  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:02:25am

re: #477 goddessoftheclassroom

That list is humbling, just when I start to feel sorry for myself.

Thanks for keeping it up, Goddess!

486 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:03:02am

re: #463 loflyer
NOW don't you start talking like a damn pirate again, loflyer! Geez, isn't one damn day a week enough for ya?!
(wouldn't feel this way, of course, if I could really speak like a pirate)!
How are ya doing ya rum swilling, sword wielding pillager of women and men! Er, I mean......
oh the hell with it, just PLEASE stop talking like a pirate, Ok?!

487 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:03:03am

re: #479 Kenneth

Palin and Obama—What Really is Wisdom? by VDH (so you know it's good!)

Great post matey! Thanks!

488 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:03:13am

re: #477 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning Goddess..thanks for your list..
I'm really worried about mars needs neocons..Haven't seen a post in about a month and he was in a really bad financial shape and was having lousy luck overall...
Some lizard here that knows God better than me should say a prayer for him.

489 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:03:23am

re: #484 usmc1968

{usmc1968}

I'm always so glad to see your posts.

490 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:03:39am

re: #458 loflyer

Yaaaar, Lucius, good to see you, Noam and I are working on a monthly meet of ATL lizards. Second Sunday of the month, 5 PM at Manuals Tavern near Little five points....

Cool -- I've been laying low for a while. So next time would be Oct. 12?

I didn't know Noam was a denizen of the greater Fayetteville Metropolitan Area.

491 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:04:05am

re: #480 realwest

Hi {gettingby} - well I wouldn't worry so much over that EVER happening! LOL!
/ducks and runs hobbles away really fast!
How are you doing today?

Not to worry...our BUCS will underwhelmingly underperform this year.

/the defense couldn't catch you even if you're hobbling. LOL

492 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:04:18am

re: #488 HoosierHoops

Good morning Goddess..thanks for your list..
I'm really worried about mars needs neocons..Haven't seen a post in about a month and he was in a really bad financial shape and was having lousy luck overall...
Some lizard here that knows God better than me should say a prayer for him.

It doesn't matter whether you know God. God knows you, and He welcomes all prayer.

493 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:04:23am

re: #475 MandyManners

Have you seen this?

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

why yes ma'am I have, saw that many moons ago from an early post of yours which led me to many sweet UT links.

thank you for that.

494 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:05:53am

Hey GoTC -- thanks again for all that evaluation info -- it is proving quite useful.

495 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:06:00am

re: #486 realwest

NOW don't you start talking like a damn pirate again, loflyer! Geez, isn't one damn day a week enough for ya?!
(wouldn't feel this way, of course, if I could really speak like a pirate)!
How are ya doing ya rum swilling, sword wielding pillager of women and men! Er, I mean......
oh the hell with it, just PLEASE stop talking like a pirate, Ok?!

Ahoy mate! I just can't do it. This is a lot of fun! Please humor me! It's a great stress reducer, and I am stretched to the limit..

496 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:06:25am

re: #477 goddessoftheclassroom Hey good morning to you {goddess} I hope you're doing well this morning and thank you so much for being the Keeper of The List
and doing such a good job of it, too!

497 Kenneth  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:07:06am

Goddess, thank you once agian for the prayer list. Please add to it WriterMom & her son who is recovering from recent surgery.

498 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:07:15am

re: #492 goddessoftheclassroom

It doesn't matter whether you know God. God knows you, and He welcomes all prayer.

I'm sure you're right. And good morning!

/It just seems that God always puts me on hold when I call.
//and with lousy hold-music. LOL

499 akak  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:07:57am

re: #454 MandyManners

From what I've gathered, the camera was blown at the moment the bomb went off.

ok I get that "Interior Ministry" was gracious enough to give Fox the video of truck, but just not the splody part.

There's that scary Ministry of Interior thingy again.

500 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:08:53am

re: #496 realwest

Too much depressing college football yesterday. Despite the Bobby Patrino Schadenfreude, it was disturbing seeing them get so badly mauled by Alabama. The Auburn loss was depressing and avoidable. The Florida-TN game was just freakin' bizarre. Don't know what to make of that one.

Meanwhile, I have a feeling JoePa might be riding a steamroller to the Rose Bowl this year.

501 Kenneth  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:09:06am

More from VDH,

Palin in empirical fashion bucked the Republican establishment and the old-boy network when she thought it was unreasonable; Obama never figured out or at least never questioned Tony Rezko or the Chicago machine, Trinity Church or the Pelosi-Kennedy liberal mantra—unless it proved advantageous. Palin draws on everything from position papers on ANWR to how to keep four screaming kids fed and bathed; Obama on Harvard Law Review and dispensing more public money to more Chicago interest groups.

I'll take the hockey mom over the cmunity organizer, thanks.

502 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:09:45am

re: #498 gettinby

I'm sure you're right. And good morning!

/It just seems that God always puts me on hold when I call.
//and with lousy hold-music. LOL

Sometimes His answer is the strength to cope, but we're so busy looking for OUR solution that we miss HIS.

I've learned to be still and know He is God.

503 cliffster  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:09:57am

Good morning, all! Nobody has avatars this morning, just uniform green footballs. Is that because it's Sunday and week 3 of NFL?

504 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:10:06am

re: #484 usmc1968
Ah, a man of few words!
;') it IS good to see you out here.

505 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:10:15am

I'm off to get ready for church--I hope to check in later!

506 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:10:56am

re: #503 cliffster

Good morning, all! Nobody has avatars this morning, just uniform green footballs. Is that because it's Sunday and week 3 of NFL?

Log-in and refresh.

507 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:11:08am

re: #490 Lucius Septimius

Cool -- I've been laying low for a while. So next time would be Oct. 12?

I didn't know Noam was a denizen of the greater Fayetteville Metropolitan Area.

Matey, Noam lives near Little Five points, We met last week and it was like breath a fresh of air. The first conservative I have met in years. The second Sunday will be October 12, and we plan on being at Manuals at 5. If you know of any ATL lizards, then pass the word.

508 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:11:47am

re: #495 loflyer
Don't worry about it - what kind o' pirate worries about that, eh matey?!

509 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:11:58am

re: #477 goddessoftheclassroom

GOTC! How's it going?

510 usmc1968  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:12:14am

re: #489 goddessoftheclassroom


I thank you. Wish I had you as a teacher when in school. Teach kids "Right & Wrong" I know you will and they are really good kids just need leadership.

511 gettinby  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:12:18am

re: #502 goddessoftheclassroom

Sometimes His answer is the strength to cope, but we're so busy looking for OUR solution that we miss HIS.

I've learned to be still and know He is God.

Amen. And you are definitely correct.

/I was hoping to win the Lotto. He gave me a difficult job opportunity instead. ;)

512 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:12:41am

re: #497 Kenneth
Good morning Kenneth - how are you this morning and how is dear "M" doing these days?

513 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:12:50am

re: #500 Lucius Septimius

Too much depressing college football yesterday. Despite the Bobby Patrino Schadenfreude, it was disturbing seeing them get so badly mauled by Alabama. The Auburn loss was depressing and avoidable. The Florida-TN game was just freakin' bizarre. Don't know what to make of that one.

Meanwhile, I have a feeling JoePa might be riding a steamroller to the Rose Bowl this year.

Yaaar! Georgia and Georgia Tech won yesterday, it was a great day!

514 cliffster  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:13:03am

re: #506 FrogMarch

It fixed itself without me refreshing! Ajax is cool.

515 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:13:07am

re: #493 rain of lead

why yes ma'am I have, saw that many moons ago from an early post of yours which led me to many sweet UT links.

thank you for that.

You're welcome! I sent it to my sister in Denver, and she's eaten it up!

516 VISIgoth63  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:13:10am

Timeline:
Pan Am Flight 103 destroyed by a bomb on Wednesday December 21, 1988, one month after the elections of George Herbert Walker Bush. One month before inauguration.

Bombing of Twin Towers on February 26, 1993, at 12:18 PM- One month after the inauguration of Bill Clinton. Three months after elections.

Twin Towers/Pentagon/Pennsylvania bombing/explosion on Sept 11, 2001.
11 months after elections, 9 months after the inauguration of George Bush

Madrid train bombings on 11 March 2004 - three days before Spain's general elections

Obama v. McCain on 4 NOV 08.

Next (major) attack on US +/- four months after regardless of who is elected.

Are these precursors?
1) September 17, 2008 Explosion near the US Embassy. 2 months before the US elections
2) 20 September 2008, A bomb attack has hit the Marriott Hotel in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, killing at least 40 people.

517 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:13:12am

re: #485 reine.de.tout

That list is humbling, just when I start to feel sorry for myself.

Thanks for keeping it up, Goddess!

I was just going to say...

518 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:13:13am

when everyday stress seems to get overwhelming,
remember Rain's rules of life,

1) Don't sweat the small stuff.

2) It's all small stuff.
A) the game of life is rigged, no one get's out alive.

519 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:13:40am

re: #508 realwest

Don't worry about it - what kind o' pirate worries about that, eh matey?!

Arrrrrr! Thanks Real, I am having a lot of fun with this!

520 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:13:57am

re: #500 Lucius Septimius

Too much depressing college football yesterday. Despite the Bobby Patrino Schadenfreude, it was disturbing seeing them get so badly mauled by Alabama. The Auburn loss was depressing and avoidable. The Florida-TN game was just freakin' bizarre. Don't know what to make of that one.

Meanwhile, I have a feeling JoePa might be riding a steamroller to the Rose Bowl this year.

This is the 10th anniversary of our winning the national champsionship.

521 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:13:59am

re: #507 loflyer

If Noam's a conservative 'round Little Five Points he's a lonely guy.

Sattv4u works over by Emory.

522 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:14:57am

re: #520 MandyManners

Sorry -- Fulmer just looked miserable yesterday -- hard to watch.

Aside from that, how are you doing, cutie?

523 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:15:03am

re: #500 Lucius Septimius
Uh, Lucius, I don't really follow college football and have only had one cuppa coffee this morning - could you kindly translate that post - other than the Auburn part I didn't understand it (course I also haven't checked the college football scoreboard, either!)!

524 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:15:45am

re: #518 rain of lead

when everyday stress seems to get overwhelming,
remember Rain's rules of life,

1) Don't sweat the small stuff.

2) It's all small stuff.
A) the game of life is rigged, no one get's out alive.

3) Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things.

525 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:15:57am

re: #502 goddessoftheclassroom

Sometimes His answer is the strength to cope, but we're so busy looking for OUR solution that we miss HIS.

I've learned to be still and know He is God.

wow..
anyhow..I'll thank God today because it's my birthday..
I often feel i'm the luckiest guy in the world..That is why i started [Link: www.food4humanity.org...]
The part of the bible i remember is i was hungry and you did not feed me..
i don't want to be that person...

526 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:16:22am

re: #522 Lucius Septimius

Sorry -- Fulmer just looked miserable yesterday -- hard to watch.

Aside from that, how are you doing, cutie?

Hunky-dorry!

527 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:16:43am

re: #520 MandyManners

This is the 10th anniversary of our winning the national champsionship.

TEN YEARS?!
where did they go?

528 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:16:43am

re: #522 Lucius Septimius

How're your family and students?

529 Kenneth  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:17:12am

re: #512 realwest

Good morning Real. I'm alraight, M is doing better, thanks, but she has a long way to go. I hope you are feeling fine today.

530 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:17:21am

re: #507 loflyer
Uh, where is little Five Points? I thought Noam lived in Minnesota?

531 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:17:54am

re: #527 rain of lead

TEN YEARS?!
where did they go?

I have no idea but, they've gone quickly.

I'm just glad for the Broncos.

532 Tamron  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:18:36am

re: #362 loflyer

Yaaaar, Isn't it interesting how the US has introduced the 250 pound smart bombs to limit collateral damage, whilst Islamic terrorists deploy ever larger bombs and are losing the war on terror because the majority of the Muslims are aghast at the "collateral" death and destruction of fellow Muslims....

Here's two links on the new smart bombs: LCDB1 and LCDB2. (Second link is Aviation Week magazine.)

The main premise of the LCDB (Low Collateral Damage Bomb) is sort of like an airborne sniper with a strong wallop -- just take out part of a house, or a car, or a couple of terrorists placing an IED by the roadside, etc., and nothing else around them. Reduces chances of terrorists hiding behind the innocent public, inside a city.
.

533 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:18:49am

re: #529 KennethI'm doing ok I reckon, glad to hear M is doing better - even if she has a long way to go, she has already come a long way, no?

534 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:18:51am

re: #521 Lucius Septimius

If Noam's a conservative 'round Little Five Points he's a lonely guy.

Sattv4u works over by Emory.

Yaaaar! So does my brother, let's hit him up next time he posts.....

535 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:19:35am

re: #531 MandyManners

I have no idea but, they've gone quickly.

I'm just glad for the Broncos.

At least the Tenn Titans are playing well
( Vince who? )

536 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:19:45am

morning everybody

537 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:19:48am

re: #520 MandyManners
Good morning Mandy - uh, sorry I KNOW I should know this, but who is "we" from 10 years ago?!

538 cliffster  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:20:25am

re: #521 Lucius Septimius

If Noam's a conservative 'round Little Five Points he's a lonely guy.

Sattv4u works over by Emory.

Austin is a rough place to be for good conservative folks. Although you do have the consolation of knowing that the rest of the state all around you see things your way.

539 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:20:58am

Real: Penn State

540 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:21:05am

re: #501 Kenneth

More from VDH,


I'll take the hockey mom over the cmunity organizer, thanks.

Me too.

For most of you readers, all this is trite and self-evident. But apparently not for hundreds in politics, the media, the universities, Hollywood, and the foundations who seem to think that a fumbling nervous Obama in interviews, who grasps for a word and utters vacuous platitudes is “really” contemplative, like his Harvard Law professors; but when a Sarah Palin seems nervous under scrutiny from a pseudo-professorial, glasses-on-the-lower-nose Charlie Gibson, she is clearly an empty head with an Idaho BA.

A Ronald Reagan knew more about human nature, and thus what drives the Soviet Union than did all the Ivy-League Soviet specialists that surrounded Jimmy Carter-much less the Sally Quins and Maureen Dowds of that age. We in America, unlike the Europeans, know this intuitively, grasp that a Harry Truman figured out the Russian communists far better than did the Harvard-educated aristocrat FDR.

541 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:21:14am

re: #530 realwest

Uh, where is little Five Points? I thought Noam lived in Minnesota?

Matey we have two Noams, Noam Chumpsky live in the ATL.....Little five points is located three miles east of downtown Atlanta.

542 Kenneth  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:22:05am

re: #533 realwest

Yes she has progressed, and it's been a very hard year for a 14 year old girl.

543 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:22:07am

re: #537 realwest

morning Real,
UT Vols, Nat'l Championship.

544 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:23:08am

re: #543 rain of lead

morning Real,
UT Vols, Nat'l Championship.

my bad..you're right.. i forgot about that

545 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:23:16am

re: #535 rain of lead

At least the Tenn Titans are playing well
( Vince who? )

I don't follow the Titans. Well, I don't follow the Broncos much, either but, that's The Kid's team 'cause he was born there.

546 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:23:17am

re: #536 Typicalwhitey
Good morning Typicalwhitey! How are you this fine morning?

547 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:23:39am

re: #536 Typicalwhitey

Good morning!

548 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:23:54am

re: #537 realwest

UTK.

Youtube Video

549 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:23:55am

re: #528 MandyManners

Students are actually pretty good this year, though keeping my 8 AM class awake is not easy. I've got a pretty hectic schedule.

Family is more or less the same, though Little Mister is now crawling and sitting up and eating (or at least smearing all over his face) his food with his hands. He's 7 months now and 20 pounds of giggles.

550 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:24:09am

re: #546 realwest


Good and you?
Only got 3 hours of sleep, the hubby was snoring like a damn bear!

551 Miss Trixie  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:24:54am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning {lizaeds!} &#9836 &#9834

Overcast and gloomy in the valley and pretty soon I'm going to have to turn on the heat. :(

{realwest} Morning hunnie *smoochie* How are you today?

552 loflyer  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:25:10am

Yaaar, I'll be back later mates, I got chores to do, and dogs to walk. G' day all.

553 godfrey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:25:25am

re: #479 Kenneth

Another fine article by VDH.

If you grasp what VDH is saying, you'll know why republicans trust freedom, ingenuity and the market to get things done right.

554 rustynail  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:25:27am

re: #102 victor_yugo

On the need for cultures to evolve.


I know it's late in the thread, but viewing the link raised a question and then another question:
What language do the Masai see on their cell phones when they 'text'?
and
What about all the other people in the world ... I'm sure that Russians see Cyrillic characters when they text on their cell phones, but I'm having trouble visualizing it. And what about the Chinese?

555 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:25:39am

re: #523 realwest

Arkansas-Alabama game -- the Razorbacks kicked out their coach last year and got Bobby Patrino, the jerk who came to coach the Falcons and then ran out crying like a little girl.

As for the Florida-Tennessee game, let's just say that we're all glad in our house that we're NOT playing Florida this year.

556 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:26:21am

re: #551 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning {lizaeds!} ♬ ♪

Overcast and gloomy in the valley and pretty soon I'm going to have to turn on the heat. :(

{realwest} Morning hunnie *smoochie* How are you today?


Good Morning to you miss trixie!
Did you find that perfect pair of shoes yesterday?

557 yah  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:26:33am

re: #518 rain of lead
This is my philosophy:

"Don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff."

558 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:26:46am

re: #542 Kenneth
And hard on her parents too. Still and all my friend, focus if you can on what a good year it has been for her - and look forward to an even better year ahead.

559 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:26:51am

re: #551 Miss Trixie

Morning.

what is a lizaed?
:)

560 Knitwit  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:27:15am

Good morning, everybody.

As a relative newcomer to Lizardhood, I'm buying the next round, and here are assorted bagels and fixin's.

561 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:28:48am

re: #557 yah

This is my philosophy:

"Don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff."

but I like petting (some) sweaty stuff.

562 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:29:46am

re: #539 HoosierHoops
Penn State was national champs 10 years ago?!
Huh, boy my memory is SHOT!
Well anyway birthday boy (!) you were right before - Manning WINS! Leads Giants to second world championship in a row (but I tell ya Hoops, y'all gotta get them Colts moving there! LOL!)!

563 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:31:21am

re: #541 loflyer
ARR! TWO Noam's eh laddy! Well shiver me timbers and keelhaul the both of 'em (or whatever the hell pirates say!)!

564 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:31:32am

re: #562 realwest

Penn State was national champs 10 years ago?!
Huh, boy my memory is SHOT!
Well anyway birthday boy (!) you were right before - Manning WINS! Leads Giants to second world championship in a row (but I tell ya Hoops, y'all gotta get them Colts moving there! LOL!)!

LOL
yea..i guess it wasn't penn but Utah..

565 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:31:54am

re: #549 Lucius Septimius

Students are actually pretty good this year, though keeping my 8 AM class awake is not easy. I've got a pretty hectic schedule.

Family is more or less the same, though Little Mister is now crawling and sitting up and eating (or at least smearing all over his face) his food with his hands. He's 7 months now and 20 pounds of giggles.

Oh, that is one of the best times to have a baby!

566 cliffster  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:32:05am

re: #560 Knitwit

Good morning, everybody.

As a relative newcomer to Lizardhood, I'm buying the next round, and here are assorted bagels and fixin's.

I brought coffee. Mmmmm, Kona..

567 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:33:04am

re: #560 Knitwit
Well good morning Knitwit - that was right thoughty of ya! Uh, didja bring any biali's with you (and coffee? ESPECIALLY coffee!)?
Thanks again!

568 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:33:50am

re: #566 cliffster

I brought coffee. Mmmmm, Kona..

My all time favorite coffee!

569 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:33:59am

re: #565 MandyManners

Oh, that is one of the best times to have a baby!

It is. And his siblings adore him. The oldest one gets him out of the crib and feeds him sometimes; the number 2 son plays with him; baby girl tries to mother him in her 3-year-old manner.

Altogether, he's pretty spoiled, but not by us.

570 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:35:48am

Does anyone think the debates will make any difference in the election?
If so, how so?

571 cliffster  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:36:13am

re: #568 HoosierHoops

My all time favorite coffee!

Expensive, but you get what you pay for.

572 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:36:14am

Just clockin' in:

I see that realwest has picked up the ongoing pirate infection from loflyer -- btw, real, here's my coat, you tough guy, you

Blessed is he who has reached the point of no return and knows it, for he shall enjoy living. — W. C. Bennett

Amen

573 godfrey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:37:21am

Good morning lizards

Two bits:

1. for fellow klez freaks from ... Argentina

2. Les Miles is the most daring, fun coach in college football.

574 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:39:05am

re: #543 rain of lead
Good morning rain of lead! (casts a witering gaze at the Birthday Boy for screwing with an older man's memory!) thanks for the information.
Geez, TEN YEARS ago, already?

575 SlartyBartfast  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:39:30am

Couple of Sunday morning links for ya'll...

This was in the Front Page Spin-Offs
Woman accused of bartending naked
The first line says she was a "...southern Illinois woman..." Since when is East Alton in Southern Illinois? Is everything south of Cicero Southern Illinois?

Here's today's math lesson from the AP:
Obama, McCain spend record $94M in August
In the last paragraph: "The RNC reported $76.5 million in the bank at the beginning of September before obtaining the McCain camp's leftover cash [$18M]. The Democratic National Committee reported $17.7 million cash on hand at the end of August...That means both campaigns were roughly on even footing,..."

Finally, a Sunday sermon, recorded 3Sept08:
Manning's Fierce Prayer for Bristol Palin
(I think he goes a little over-the-top on BHO's momma.)

576 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:39:47am

re: #564 HoosierHoops

LOL
yea..i guess it wasn't penn but Utah..

UTK won both the SEC and National Championship in 1998.

577 cliffster  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:39:56am

re: #573 godfrey

Good morning lizards

2. Les Miles is the most daring, fun coach in college football.

Good morning to you! I must offer up another opinion on your #2. Bob Stoops will run a fake punt from his own 30. That guy is as unpredictable as you can be..

578 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:40:08am

Blessed is he who has reached the point of no return and knows it, for he shall enjoy living. — W. C. Bennett

I hope I'm not the only person who doesn't have the faintest idea of what that means..
/probably am..
Good morning Brat..how are you today?

579 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:40:27am

re: #569 Lucius Septimius

It is. And his siblings adore him. The oldest one gets him out of the crib and feeds him sometimes; the number 2 son plays with him; baby girl tries to mother him in her 3-year-old manner.

Altogether, he's pretty spoiled, but not by us.

Babies are meant to be spoiled!

580 jacksontn  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:40:28am

re: #477 goddessoftheclassroom

I am new here so not sure how people feel about disclosing their illnesses but I have seen him post about it here before. I cannot remember his full nic. I believe it is CAdubdude or something like that could you put him on the list. Thinking about it that is probably not his nic but I am sure someone on here would know.

581 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:40:53am

re: #548 MandyManners
Ah, thanks Mandy but rain already straightend me out on that - HOOPS! YOU PAYING ATTENTION HERE!
LOL!
Geez, talk about celebrating your birthday early!

Anyway Mandy, how are you and the kid doing today?

582 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:41:24am

re: #568 HoosierHoops

Glad to see you made it (to another one ... *grin*)

583 cliffster  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:41:46am

re: #579 MandyManners

Babies are meant to be spoiled!

That sounds like a grandparent! :P

584 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:42:54am

SNL = Air America for Late Night TV

I'm sure SNL will be fair and mock and rip Obama? right?

585 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:43:02am

re: #477 goddessoftheclassroom

BTW -- feeling fine, followup scheduled for Tuesday

586 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:43:25am

re: #551 {Miss Trixie}
Hey there gorgeous! *smooochs* back to you! I'm more or less ok, thanks. How are you doing today?

587 Miss Trixie  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:45:23am

re: #556 HoosierHoops

Good Morning to you miss trixie!
Did you find that perfect pair of shoes yesterday?

Yes I did but when I got home, I discovered I had grabbed the next size down from my size in the muddle of shoe boxes.

So I's gots to take 'em back, dogdangit. And I detest shopping.

&#9834 &#9836 Happy Birthday! &#9836 &#9834

Again. :D

588 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:48:18am

re: #581 realwest

We're fine. I've fed him some toast and Hawaiian Punch to make sure he keeps food and liquids down. He wanted to go to church with my mom but, I didn't want to take the chance that he'd infect anyone or puke in the auditorium.

589 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:48:48am

re: #583 cliffster

That sounds like a grandparent! :P

It'll be (I hope) a long time before he has kids--at least 12 years.

590 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:49:11am

re: #584 FrogMarch

SNL = Air America for Late Night TV

I'm sure SNL will be fair and mock and rip Obama? right?

When?

591 HoosierHoops  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:49:18am

re: #581 realwest

Ah, thanks Mandy but rain already straightend me out on that - HOOPS! YOU PAYING ATTENTION HERE!
LOL!
Geez, talk about celebrating your birthday early!

Anyway Mandy, how are you and the kid doing today?

LOL
well i've got to go and get ready for the blow out party..
Now if i log in late tonight and start stumblling around saying stuff like i love you guys..just humor me..
:)
have a wonderful day lizards
GO COLTS!
/ I remember our new year eve party when i told my 16 year old to grab the video camera and i walked into our kitchen with a bunch of boozed up relatives and made a loud announcement that was voting for Obama..The screaming and finger pointing and yelling was a thing to behold..it was great and it's all on video...I laugh my ass off every time we play that..

592 cliffster  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:50:21am

re: #589 MandyManners

It'll be (I hope) a long time before he has kids--at least 12 years.

How old? The kid, that is

593 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:50:28am

re: #580 jacksontn

Hi - I think you mean Dublin (CA) Dude and I've already e-mailed goddess about it. Thank you for remembering and for caring.

594 Miss Trixie  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:50:28am

re: #586 realwest

Hey there gorgeous! *smooochs* back to you! I'm more or less ok, thanks. How are you doing today?

Hi darls! I'm just fine thanks for asking. It was a beeeeYOOOOOOtiful day yesterday and we took advantage of it by terrorizing the 'hood in the arvo. While I was talking to a neighbor we met along the way, Lil Miss joyously rolled in something when I wasn't looking. Little stinker - literally.

She hates bath time. :D

595 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:51:11am

re: #570 Typicalwhitey

Does anyone think the debates will make any difference in the election?
If so, how so?

Yes, though the results depend largely on how the they play out.

Obama has a slight edge over McCain on account of his voice -- McCain can't help but sound sort of whiney. That said, while Obama can read a teleprompter with the best of them, when he gets off the script he puts his foot in his mouth and starts chewing until he reaches his ears. Prager's comment that the dynamic of the election is "Obama speaks and America says 'huh? did he say what I think he said?" will never be truer than during the debates. Obama also tends to come off as either smug and condescending or wooden and dense. The first plays well to the home crowd, but won't work with undecided voters; the second one plays well to no one. McCain can handle himself better on his feet. The real difference is that he is used to serious questioning; Obama has been shielded from that his entire career, and there is a part of me that thinks he will come off like Carter did in the debates with Reagan.

Of course we know that the media will score him the "winner" and find lots of people to interview who drool whenever you say "change," but I have a hard time seeing Obama picking up votes he doesn't already have. And he may just alienate enough undecided voters to crash -- he is having little success playing to the center.

The VP debates could be remarkably interesting. Biden is an arrogant SOB and so out of touch it isn't funny. He is also intellectually lazy and prone to serious gaffes. My suspicion is that he'll try to bully Palin, which won't work, and then get increasingly indignant and say stupid things. The questions will attempt to play up Palin's inexperience and tar her with the brush of corruption (the official Dem talking points memo really stresses the latter as the primary strategy) but she can handle it. She already appeals to the center and undecided voters in ways the media doesn't understand (meanwhile, despite what the liberals have been trying to convince us of, her selection had hardly any effect on the support of Evangelicals for McCain -- he picked up maybe one percentage point among those voters).

Palin is really the star here, and I suspect she will shine; meanwhile Biden will do what he does best -- bluster and end up sounding and looking foolish as his doll hair glistens under the lights. (Full disclosure; a friend of mine was Biden's undergraduate advisor and described him as a solid B- student -- ambitious but not willing to do what was required to succeed).

Conclusion: The debates are about solidifying and mobilizing the base and drawing independents and undecided voters. Obama comes into the debates with a slight edge in the latter category, but he loses it as soon as he goes off script. And for the first time ever, the VP debates may prove the critical moment in determining who gets the lions share of the undecided vote.

596 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:52:41am

re: #588 MandyManners
Huh? What's wrong with your son? And if you've said out here before I'm sorry - I either didn't see it or forgot (and it's more than likely I didn't see it). I'm glad he kept the toast and Punch down though - that's usually a good sign.

597 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:53:24am

re: #595 Lucius Septimius

Thanks
Excellent post.

598 Miss Trixie  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:54:42am

Hoosier

/ I remember our new year eve party when i told my 16 year old to grab the video camera and i walked into our kitchen with a bunch of boozed up relatives and made a loud announcement that was voting for Obama..The screaming and finger pointing and yelling was a thing to behold..it was great and it's all on video...I laugh my ass off every time we play that..

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

*snort*

:D

599 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:55:45am

Pirate trivia
keelhauling
a line would be run under the keel of the ship from one side of the ship to the other, the person would be tied to it and hauled under the ship, the barnicles on the bottom of the hull would then flay the skin off of the person in question, combine with salt water...ouch

600 mich-again  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:56:08am

re: #578 HoosierHoops

Blessed is he who has reached the point of no return and knows it, for he shall enjoy living.

— W. C. Bennett

What, for the 4 seconds you are falling toward the cement? I don't get it either.

601 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:56:10am

re: #572 pre-Boomer Marine brat ARG we don't need coats - they get in the way when boarding other ships YARGH!
OMG, it's catching!
/
Thanks a lot pre-Boomer Marine brat - how are you doing today?

602 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:57:22am

re: #592 cliffster

How old? The kid, that is

He's eight.

603 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:57:41am

re: #599 rain of lead

Pirate trivia
keelhauling
a line would be run under the keel of the ship from one side of the ship to the other, the person would be tied to it and hauled under the ship, the barnicles on the bottom of the hull would then flay the skin off of the person in question, combine with salt water...ouch

Uh... that would be under the ship... drowning will take care of any pain that might be inflicted. :-)

604 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:57:50am

re: #570 Typicalwhitey
Oh Lordy - you have to be kidding me - it's WAAAY too early to get into serious subjects like that! I haven't had anywhere near enough coffee yet!
;')

605 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 6:59:07am

re: #596 realwest

He puked twice last night, a highly unusual event. And, he had a runny, sneezing nose and a sore throat the day before. I wear a surgical mask around the house now.

606 rain of lead  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:00:09am

re: #603 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Uh... that would be under the ship... drowning will take care of any pain that might be inflicted. :-)

it was done quickly, pain was the plan not drowning

607 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:00:16am

re: #604 realwest

Sorry.
I am getting a little down from the polling and for some reason I am just now noticing how in the tank the media is for Obama.
I knew they were but lately it has seemed just so blatant

608 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:00:21am

re: #595 Lucius Septimius

That's a pretty rock-solid analysis.

609 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:00:27am

Another thought on the election:

A campaign is like a game of bridge. Your campaign strategy is your bid; your talking points your trump suit. Obama played all his trump cards in the first 3 months of the primary campaign and has nothing left. He and his partner can't relate; meanwhile McCain and Palin seem to be playing well together. All they need is to play out the hand and make sure Obama can't make his bid.

I think we'll see Obama get increasingly desperate as time moves on. And all the talk about "racial healing" has obviously been a crock. Condemning people who don't support Obama as racists is NOT a winning strategy. Meanwhile I see way too many dems already making excuses for why he lost when the election is still six weeks off - not a good sign.

What I'm surprised by is that the "Panhandle" strategy seems to have been abandoned. Early in his campaign, Obama took over the Clintonite "inevitability" mantle, largely in an effort to convince opponents that the election was a done deal and that vote counts would be a mere formality. The goal is to demoralize the opposition and keep them at home on election day by telling them that they have lost and that their votes are meaningless. Hillary tried that, but failed in the primaries; Obama tried to pick it up, but the dissent within the ranks is making it difficult to maintain.

I think the real issue here is that the Democratic Party is in serious disarray. The internal rifts between the various factions -- the Clintonites, the Old Guard, the Hard Left, and various state and local machines -- are growing daily, and the selection of Biden only made things worse.

610 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:01:00am

re: #597 Typicalwhitey

Your welcome!

611 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:01:21am

re: #594 Miss Trixie
uh, {Miss Trixie} what's an "arvo"?!.

612 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:01:43am

re: #608 MandyManners

That's a pretty rock-solid analysis.

That's me -- rock solid.

613 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:01:57am

re: #607 Typicalwhitey

Sorry.
I am getting a little down from the polling and for some reason I am just now noticing how in the tank the media is for Obama.
I knew they were but lately it has seemed just so blatant

I forced myself to watch CNN the other morning for a few hours. Incredible.

614 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:03:01am

re: #613 MandyManners

No wonder the kid's sick. I need a barf bag watching that crap.

615 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:03:13am

re: #613 MandyManners

Try watching MSNBC.
Bout made me puke, it is so biased I don't see how they can get very many viewers

616 Irene NYC  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:04:42am

Morning all!

I need more coffee.

BTW, that SNL McCain skit was penned in part by our friend Al Franken!
/

617 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:05:21am

MSNBC:
Olbermann: So invited guest, is McCain latest ad the biggest lie you have ever heard about Obama or was it the one before it?
Maddow: Says the same thing but with a "perky smile"

618 Miss Trixie  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:05:25am

re: #612 Lucius Septimius

That's me -- rock solid.

That's aussiemagpie-speak for "afternoon". :D

619 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:05:40am

re: #605 MandyManners
Gah, sorry to hear that! Does he have a fever (am I stupid for even asking that?!?) or did he maybe eat something during the day that ultimately didn't agree with him?!

620 cliffster  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:05:42am

re: #605 MandyManners

He puked twice last night, a highly unusual event. And, he had a runny, sneezing nose and a sore throat the day before. I wear a surgical mask around the house now.

Sorry to hear that. Tis the season though, eh?
my 2 year old just started going to preschool 3 days a week at our church, and it didn't even take a week. Stock up on gatorade! btw, eight's fun isn't it. I reckon every age under 13 is fun in its own way

621 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:06:00am

The thing is, though, the media have really set themselves up as the "bad guys" in all of these without realizing it. No one -- not even liberals -- believe that they are on the level anymore. And the range of news sources has increased so that it is no longer possible for the old media to control access. Even talk radio is about three weeks behind the internet.

The only people who watch network news are over 60, and few of them are entranced with Obama or with attacks on either McCain or Palin. The latter pair, by portraying themselves as victims of a bloated arrogant elitist media monster, have hit upon what seems to be a winning strategy.

622 Miss Trixie  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:06:40am

re: #611 realwest

uh, {Miss Trixie} what's an "arvo"?!.

Ooops. Quoted the wrong post - see my #618 realwest.

I should start drinking coffee. Sheesh.

623 xpanxpunkx  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:07:07am

Anybody feel like giving the AP a hard time? They're repeating that one about Sarah Palin saying the Iraq war was from God again...

624 kcladderman  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:07:15am

re: #606 rain of lead

All you need to know about keelhauling.

625 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:07:17am

re: #601 realwest

ARG we don't need coats - they get in the way when boarding other ships YARGH!
OMG, it's catching!
/
Thanks a lot pre-Boomer Marine brat - how are you doing today?

I was doing fine.

Just finished with SlartyBartfast's link to Rev. Manning re media & Bristol Palin (bottom of #575). Now I'm doing EVEN BETTER!

626 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:07:52am

I thought linking to Rev. Manning was a no-no.

627 ErnieG  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:08:22am

re: #584 FrogMarch

SNL = Air America for Late Night TV

I'm sure SNL will be fair and mock and rip Obama? right?

They couldn't do that. It would be racist.

628 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:08:50am

re: #614 Lucius Septimius

No wonder the kid's sick. I need a barf bag watching that crap.

Oh, I won't let him watch that heinous crap.

629 nyc redneck  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:08:53am

good morning folks,
is everyone sitting at their computer, aware of good posture?
i'm trying to sit up straight like a 4th grader, happy to be at school.

is today the last day of summer, officially?

630 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:09:16am

re: #615 Typicalwhitey

Try watching MSNBC.
Bout made me puke, it is so biased I don't see how they can get very many viewers

I don't know if I'd be able to force myself to watch it.

631 lawhawk  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:09:21am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that Olmert has resigned as Israel's prime minister. Worst. Prime Minister. Ever.

He undermined Israel's national security at every turn and engaged in negotiations with terrorist groups even as they continue firing rockets and mortars to this day.

Livni is no better as she's following in Olmert's footsteps.

632 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:10:19am

re: #619 realwest

Gah, sorry to hear that! Does he have a fever (am I stupid for even asking that?!?) or did he maybe eat something during the day that ultimately didn't agree with him?!

He had a slight fever last night but, that's probably due to the retching.

633 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:10:56am

re: #631 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that Olmert has resigned as Israel's prime minister. Worst. Prime Minister. Ever.

He undermined Israel's national security at every turn and engaged in negotiations with terrorist groups even as they continue firing rockets and mortars to this day.

Livni is no better as she's following in Olmert's footsteps.

Perhaps, but we will be able to have great fun making "Tzipi the Pinhead" jokes at her expense. Better than "Olmerde"?

634 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:11:34am

re: #630 MandyManners

I have only done it during commercials of whatever else I am watching.
They don't even have anyone of an opposing view on there, at least from what I have seen.

Of course, Olbermann posts on dailykos so that tells me all I need to know about that loser.

635 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:11:35am

OK, time to make the pancakes. Have a great day, all, and keep it Obama (i.e., vacuous and cynical).

636 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:11:42am

re: #620 cliffster

Sorry to hear that. Tis the season though, eh?
my 2 year old just started going to preschool 3 days a week at our church, and it didn't even take a week. Stock up on gatorade! btw, eight's fun isn't it. I reckon every age under 13 is fun in its own way

We do Gatorade and Hawaiian Punch. He's already had a bad cold and managed to pass it on to my mom who promptly went on Levaquin, Prednisone and breathing treatments.

637 nyc redneck  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:13:06am

re: #617 Typicalwhitey

don't worry abt. the msm,
the way they go over board for 'the one', is so detrimental to their goal of getting that hack in office. the public doesn't like to be bamboozled and conned.
it's insulting. they are costing obama votes.
all those people, who are really independents on the fence are not amused by the underhandedness.

638 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:13:07am

re: #631 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that Olmert has resigned as Israel's prime minister. Worst. Prime Minister. Ever.

He undermined Israel's national security at every turn and engaged in negotiations with terrorist groups even as they continue firing rockets and mortars to this day.

Livni is no better as she's following in Olmert's footsteps.

Is she as corrupt as Olmert?

639 mich-again  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:13:24am

re: #595 Lucius Septimius

In the debates Palin needs to point out Biden's Partition Plan for Iraq to take him to task for promoting such a ridiculous idea. Experience is supposed to make you wiser, not stupider.

Despite deep resistance from the Iraqi government, Mr. Biden tried to turn his plan into U.S. policy, introducing a nonbinding Senate resolution that called for its implementation. But his effort completely backfired in Baghdad. The proposal ended up unifying all the disparate Iraqi factions in opposition.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who called on the Iraqi parliament to meet and formally reject the Biden plan, immediately went on Iraqi television with a blistering statement: “[Biden] should stand by Iraq to solidify its unity and its sovereignty . . . [He] shouldn’t be proposing its division. That could be a disaster not just for Iraq but for the region.”

640 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:13:58am

re: #634 Typicalwhitey

I have only done it during commercials of whatever else I am watching.
They don't even have anyone of an opposing view on there, at least from what I have seen.

Of course, Olbermann posts on dailykos so that tells me all I need to know about that loser.

Their weekends seem to be filled with prison stories. I've a feeling that they're not financed very well.

641 opnion  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:14:53am

Good Moring all including partied out Cub fans.

642 mama winger  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:15:27am

did anyone here see this report about that helicopter crash?

[Link: www.todaystmj4.com...]

4 blocks over from me.

643 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:17:33am

re: #609 Lucius Septimius
OK - you must have an 8 AM class to be able to write like that this early in the morning!
But try this one out: Throughout American History, except in times of Declared War, Americans have ALWAYS voted their wallets - economic issues that they feel every day. Gas prices, how do I heat my home this winter, will I keep my job, will my company survive,what happened to my IRA or 401-K, why is milk -MILK! - so damned expensive?
And I expect Barry O to pound on those issues. I think McCain needs to point out the EXTREMELY CLOSE TIES Obama has with the former heads of Fannie/Freddie (one of whom was compelled to return $24 MILLION) and Rezko and how Obama's economic advisors have NO PLAN at all to help resolve this mess. Meanwhile McCain needs to pound on both HIS economic plans (some of which he has made public), keep his distance from Bush (maybe by pointing out that Obama has voted with Bush a majority of the time too - yeah, I know, that's stupid cause Bush doesn't vote, but that's how Obama's been trying to get to McCain) and emphasize his experience in Foreign Affairs (with Russian and Venezuela making the news, not to mention Obama's STUPID idea to invade a nuclear armed Pakistan) and he and Palin's indisputable record as people who have done more than TALK about change and Reform, they've been doing it their entire political lives.

644 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:19:59am

re: #622 Miss Trixie
Uh, I did see your #618 and STILL don't know what an arvo is!

645 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:21:26am

re: #616 Irene NYC
Good morning Irene! Hope you're well today!
Hey, now that Franken is the official Democratic Leftist party candidate for the US Senate in Minnesotta, can he still do things like that?

646 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:21:28am

re: #642 mama winger

did anyone here see this report about that helicopter crash?

[Link: www.todaystmj4.com...]

4 blocks over from me.

I thought about you the moment I heard it on Fox!

647 cliffster  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:21:31am

Later all - I'm gonna go work a puzzle with my little girl.

648 mama winger  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:23:08am

re: #646 MandyManners

I thought about you the moment I heard it on Fox!

I'm going to grab my little dog and see if I can walk over there. It's in the next subdivision.

649 Truck Monkey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:23:35am

re: #607 Typicalwhitey

Sorry.
I am getting a little down from the polling and for some reason I am just now noticing how in the tank the media is for Obama.
I knew they were but lately it has seemed just so blatant

More than a couple of things to think about here. The Obamessiah is toast for a number of reasons. PUMA's are not going to vote for The Obamessiah.
Latent Democratic racists are not going to vote for The Obamessiah, and that number will be surprisingly high. Jews are now turning on T O. A recent poll in New York State had McCain up 54% to 32%. These trends and these numbers do not indicate an Obambi win on Nov 4th. He needs ALL of these people to be even remotely competitive.

650 aussiemagpie  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:23:43am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Well, my son and his girlfriend arrived home safely this evening after 4 weeks in the US

Highlight (among many) going to a Cubs game in Chicago

And they had a wonderful time everywhere

Major impression of the US - how very friendly everyone is! And helpful too

651 opnion  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:23:45am

Anybody catch the opening skit on SNL last night?
It was a parody of McCain & his ad people recording his negative ads.
One example "Obama wants tax cuts for pedophiles" The explanation was that , a few actually will get them. "I'm John McCain, I approve this ad"
Never mind that Obama has put out more negative ads.
Well, surprise, FNC reported this morning that most of the skit was written by Al Franken!

652 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:23:57am

re: #642 mama winger

It's good to see you back again.

653 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:24:18am

re: #637 nyc redneck
Hey good morning nyc redneck! How are ya doing today?
And yes, today is the last day of summer - officially anyway!

654 Pullus Iulius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:24:23am

re: #604 realwest

Good morning Realwest. Hope the coffee's good. You're right - it's way too early to be stewing about a lot of things, right now. I guess people are jittery about FL going back into the toss-up column, and the like. Polls, polls, polls. Today they mean nothing. Any changes are a reaction to last week's financial chaos. Look at next Wednesday's polls or next weekend's, maybe, after the $700 BN plan is more nearly understood. Even then, it's just a snapshot. McCain's ratcheting up the volume this week, leading up to the debate. And 0 isn't very nimble on the defensive. I see a good week ahead. With much fighting.

655 aussiemagpie  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:24:35am

re: #644 realwest

Uh, I did see your #618 and STILL don't know what an arvo is!


Hi {darls}

Arvo = Aussiespeak for afternoon :-)

656 mama winger  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:25:30am

re: #652 Killgore Trout

It's good to see you back again.

Thanks Killgore! It's nice to see you too.

Going out to check on that crash - I wonder if I can get thru. Thank God it seems as if the folks inside the house are Okay altho there are conflicting reports - helicopter folks reported killed.

bbl

657 lawhawk  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:26:25am

re: #638 MandyManners

Just as inept. Corruption isn't her problem. Her lack of experience and her first inclination to engage in negotiations and concessions with terrorists without improving Israel's national security.

658 Syrah  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:27:03am
Blessed is he who has reached the point of no return and knows it, for he shall enjoy living.

— W. C. Bennett

Reminds me of an old Janis Joplin song.

Busted flat in Baton Rouge, waitin' fer a train
When I's feeling nearly faded as my jeans
Bobby thumbed a diesel down, just before it rained
And rode us all the way to New Orleans
I pulled my harpoon out of my dirty red bandana
I's playing soft while Bobby sung the blues, n-yeah
Windshield wipers slapping time I's, holding Bobby's hand in mine
We sang every song that driver knew

Freedom's just another word for nothing left to loose
Nothing, I mean nothing honey if it ain't free, no no
Yeah feeling good was easy Lord when he sang the blues
You know feeling good was good enough for me
Good enough for me and my Bobby McGee.

From Kentucky coal mine to the California sun
Yeah Bobby shared the secrets of my soul
Through all kinds of weather, through everything we done
Yeah Bobby baby kept me from the cold world
One day a near Selina Lord, I let him slip away
He's lookin' for that home, and I hope he finds it
But I'd trade all of my tomorrows for one single yesterday
To be holdin' Bobby's body next to mine

Freedom's just another word for nothing left to loose
Nothing, and that's all that Bobby left me, yeah
But feeling good was easy Lord when he sang the blues
Hey feeling good was good enough for me, hmm-mm
Good enough for me and Bobby McGee.

659 Irene NYC  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:27:24am

re: #645 realwest

Morning real!

Al Franken is God and, doggoneit, happy with himself. So, yes, he can do whatever he wants.
;)

660 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:28:34am

re: #639 mich-again
Good morning mich! And Palin ought to also ask Biden about Obama's idea of invading Pakistan while she's at it.
And if he starts on her lack of experience, I think it'd be fair for her to say that HIS foreign policy expertise comes from sitting on his ass on a Senate Committee.

661 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:30:17am

re: #649 Truck Monkey
Hey there - do you have a link for those polls about NY?

662 Irene NYC  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:31:10am

re: #660 realwest

Good morning mich! And Palin ought to also ask Biden about Obama's idea of invading Pakistan while she's at it.
And if he starts on her lack of experience, I think it'd be fair for her to say that HIS foreign policy expertise comes from sitting on his ass on a Senate Committee.


Ooooooh. And I hope she also adds Biden plagerizing foreign politicians to that list.
;)

663 mich-again  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:31:11am

Funny line I came across this morning wandering around linkland..

The winter of 1739-40 was also a bad one. After that there was no spring and only a damp, cool summer which spoiled the wheat harvest. The poor rebelled and the governor of Liège told the rich to "fire into the middle of them. That's the only way to disperse this riffraff, who want nothing but bread and loot." (Ladurie, 1971)

Now I know where the word riffraff came from.

664 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:31:42am

re: #650 aussiemagpie
Hey G'day to you too {aussiemagpie}! Or should I say good very early morning or very late evening (depending on whether or not you've been partying, I reckon! LOL!)?

665 opnion  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:32:50am

re: #660 realwest

Good morning mich! And Palin ought to also ask Biden about Obama's idea of invading Pakistan while she's at it.
And if he starts on her lack of experience, I think it'd be fair for her to say that HIS foreign policy expertise comes from sitting on his ass on a Senate Committee.

Real, how you doin? Good point to Biden, 'Where were you all of these years?"
You don't think that Biden will be stupid enough to do the Mayor of a small town thing?'
She could snap back, "Senator congratulations on your 9,000 Primary votes."

666 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:34:03am

re: #590 MandyManners

When?

When will the show be on or -when- will SNL mock Obama?

667 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:34:45am

re: #662 Irene NYC
Hey Irene! Yeah, I'd forgotten about that one!
Guess maybe I should stop sending my (very) unsolicited advice to the McCain/ Palin campaigns, eh?

668 Irene NYC  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:36:03am

re: #667 realwest

Why stop! I'm sure they love knowing you support them.
;)

669 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:36:43am

re: #665 opnion
Hey my friend! Yup, you're right - but I think Palin needs to come across as strong and assertive and avoid even the appearance of being bitchy - leave that to Biden! LOL!

670 nyc redneck  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:36:52am

re: #653 realwest

Hey good morning nyc redneck! How are ya doing today?
And yes, today is the last day of summer - officially anyway!

hey {real}, i'm great today. what a beautiful morning. i thought it was the last day of summer. i love fall tho. and all that goes w/ it.
(including candy corn and autumn mix candy. and the little orange pumpkin candy /the little green stem on top.)
i'm going to make a quiche lorraine today. but i'm going to call it an egg pie w/ bacon. that makes it an american culinary delight.
i hope you're feeling good today.

671 opnion  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:37:35am

re: #666 FrogMarch

When will the show be on or -when- will SNL mock Obama?


The only time that they mocked Obama is when Tina Fey was trying to prop up Hillary.
Now Obama is running against evil Republicans. He will be portrayed as either a victim or a benevolent savior type figure.

672 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:38:10am

re: #657 lawhawk

Just as inept. Corruption isn't her problem. Her lack of experience and her first inclination to engage in negotiations and concessions with terrorists without improving Israel's national security.

I wish she would understand that her constituents are not the Jordyptians but the Israelis!

673 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:38:15am

re: #668 Irene NYC
ROFL! I think by now every time they get an e-mail from "realwest" they collectively groan and hit "delete"! LOL!
But hell yeah, I'm gonna keep writing to em!

674 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:39:27am

re: #649 Truck Monkey

More than a couple of things to think about here. The Obamessiah is toast for a number of reasons. PUMA's are not going to vote for The Obamessiah.
Latent Democratic racists are not going to vote for The Obamessiah, and that number will be surprisingly high. Jews are now turning on T O. A recent poll in New York State had McCain up 54% to 32%. These trends and these numbers do not indicate an Obambi win on Nov 4th. He needs ALL of these people to be even remotely competitive.


Do you have a link to that?
That cannot be correct.

675 Irene NYC  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:39:29am

re: #673 realwest

That's the spirit, real!
;)

676 mich-again  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:39:54am

re: #660 realwest

And if he starts on her lack of experience, I think it'd be fair for her to say that HIS foreign policy expertise comes from sitting on his ass on a Senate Committee.

Eggs-actly. All that experience means that there is a paper trail ten miles long and it won't be hard to go through and pick out other stupid ideas and statements Biden made. For instance I bet he opposed Reagan at every turn and spouted lots of condescending libberish about the Gipper. I'm sure there are plenty other examples of where Biden was on the wrong side of History.

677 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:40:40am

re: #670 nyc redneck
Mmmmmm- sounds yummy, no matter what ya call it! Yeah, I'm feeling ok thanks, but do have to run out to do chores (pharmacy, supermarket and the like) in about 15 minutes or so). Geez, I always LOVED my hometown in autumn - and in spring. Summer and Winter y'all can keep NYC though!

678 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:40:48am

re: #666 FrogMarch

When will the show be on or -when- will SNL mock Obama?

The latter.

If bet most of the skits will be pot-shots at Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin.

679 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:41:47am

re: #676 mich-again

Eggs-actly. All that experience means that there is a paper trail ten miles long and it won't be hard to go through and pick out other stupid ideas and statements Biden made. For instance I bet he opposed Reagan at every turn and spouted lots of condescending libberish about the Gipper. I'm sure there are plenty other examples of where Biden was on the wrong side of History.

I'd love to see her rip a strip off of him about wanting to give the Iranians $200,000,000.00 after 9-11.

680 aussiemagpie  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:42:14am

re: #664 realwest

Hey G'day to you too {aussiemagpie}! Or should I say good very early morning or very late evening (depending on whether or not you've been partying, I reckon! LOL!)?


Hi {darls}

Partying? Nah.....picking up my son and his GF from the airport after they spent 4 weeks in your wonderful country!

They loved their US holiday

And it's 12.41 am here Monday morning :-)

681 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:43:16am

re: #679 MandyManners
WHAT? Biden wanted to give the IRANIANS $200 million - for what?!?

682 Diamond Bullet  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:44:07am

Is anyone else getting harassed by Obama campaign workers?

I live in northern Virginia, inside the D.C. beltway. About a week ago I told an Obama door-to-door saleswoman that I was "not interested" in discussing her savior with her. The woman actually had the gall to open my screen door and stick her head into the house while I was trying to change my daughter's diaper.

Since then, the visits have gone from maybe once every 3 days, to every day, to twice a day. Different people, random times, but everyone really excited about telling me all about Obama. Unprompted, they have started referring to both my wife and I by our first names.

We also receive 3-4 phone calls every day. It's gotten to the point where I just hang up the second I hear them launch into their script.

This morning, I left the house at 9 am to go to the office. There was an Obama campaign worker standing on the sidewalk outside my house staring at the back of my car - taking the license plate number or planning on where to slap an Obama '08 sticker, I'm not sure. This person also knew my first name.

This is unlike anything else I've ever experienced in any political campaign. I'm not a paranoid person, but I can't help but think that my refusals have landed me on some sort of Obama naughty list. Has anyone else experienced this? I'm not sure I can take another 6 weeks of Obamatons rappelling off my roof or sliding down the chimney.

683 opnion  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:44:28am

re: #669 realwest

Hey my friend! Yup, you're right - but I think Palin needs to come across as strong and assertive and avoid even the appearance of being bitchy - leave that to Biden! LOL!


I agree with you my perceptive & sagacious (I love that word since the Simpson Trial) friend. However a greater danger is for her to look pushed around.
She should carve up Biden while smiling.

684 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:45:09am

Brazen Bias

685 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:45:17am

re: #680 aussiemagpie
"12.41 am here Monday morning" ah, I see you're still addicted to LGF too! LOL!
I'm glad they had such a great time here and have such a nice opinion about Americans!

686 nyc redneck  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:46:41am

re: #659 Irene NYC

Morning real!

Al Franken is God and, doggoneit, happy with himself. So, yes, he can do whatever he wants.
;)

he is really a low down dirty sneaky cowardly type. i heard a clip of him, several yrs. ago, bragging abt. how he tackled a man from behind and slammed him viciously to the ground.
the guy was a conservative asking a question at some event. franken was really proud of his "macho brave assault' of blind siding someone who couldn't protect themselves.
of course, since he is such a panty waist weenie that is the only kind of physical interaction he feels capable of engaging in.

687 Truck Monkey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:46:42am

re: #661 realwest

Hey there - do you have a link for those polls about NY?

Sure.
[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com...]

688 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:47:03am

re: #678 MandyManners

The latter.

If bet most of the skits will be pot-shots at Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin.

Absolutely. They will make Palin stupid and McCain senile. Obama - they won't touch the holy black communist. That would go against standard media bias and would be considered racist.

689 Spirit93  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:47:25am

re: #682 Diamond Bullet

Obama recently made a speech extolling his supporters to "get in peoples faces".

690 Kenneth  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:47:54am

re: #681 realwest

He suggested the idea as a way to "show the Arab world we mean them no harm".

That's a hell of a lot of stupid to pack into one sentence, but Joe's that man!

691 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:48:59am

re: #646 MandyManners

I thought about you the moment I heard it on Fox!

I saw that too -- a friend of my mom lives in the same subdivision.

692 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:49:06am

re: #682 Diamond Bullet
Huh, well as I posted here (actually I think on the prior thread) A really curious thing did happen today. ( yesterday) While I was on LGF , a young black woman and a VERY tall white man knocked on our door and said they were taking a political poll, did my Mom have time to take part in it. So I went to the door and said "sure, we'd love to!"
He asked us if we were Republicans, Democrats or Independents. Mom said Republicans. They thanked us and left!
Honest to God true story and I still don't know what to make of it.

693 kcladderman  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:49:07am

re: #682 Diamond Bullet

I had one come by the other day. Asked me a few questions,then she told me her group some community group i don't even remember the name was endorsing Obama for president . I asked her why? She couldn't really say just some talk about change,I ask her what he was changing and what was he changing it to she clicked and clicked on her blackberry but couldn't find the answer. So then she asked for my wife by her first name. I told the young lady it was time for her to leave.

694 reine.de.tout  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:49:12am

re: #502 goddessoftheclassroom

Sometimes His answer is the strength to cope, but we're so busy looking for OUR solution that we miss HIS.

I've learned to be still and know He is God.

True, true.
And times when I've prayed for strength to cope, it's been given to me.

695 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:49:20am

re: #681 realwest

WHAT? Biden wanted to give the IRANIANS $200 million - for what?!?

Hello, and goodbye as I have to get out and do things today. Biden thought the Iranians were arabs, he really is an idiot.

696 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:49:30am

Mornin' all. Another fine Sunday or Monday depending on your global location.

697 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:49:57am

Barack's Glass House

last one - I promise. :-)

698 Kenneth  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:50:51am

re: #695 lifeofthemind

And if he thoght giving free money to the Shia terrorist Persian mullahs would please the Sunni Arabs, Biden is a dangerous idiot.

699 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:51:00am

re: #682 Diamond Bullet

This sounds serious, talk to a lawyer.

700 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:51:14am

re: #687 Truck Monkey
Ah yeah, the Sienna poll - I think either they or Marist had Obama ahead of McCain with all NY voters by only 5% (and no, now I can't find the damn link!).

701 reine.de.tout  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:52:41am

re: #550 Typicalwhitey

Good and you?
Only got 3 hours of sleep, the hubby was snoring like a damn bear!

My dear, this has saved my sanity and marriage.

702 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:53:54am

re: #691 Lucius Septimius
Hey Lucius - I'd appreciate it if you would check out my #609 - y'all went to make pancakes while I was typing it!

703 Knitwit  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:54:31am

re: #567 realwest
Howdy, realwest! I'll put bialys on my list. It still is a marvel to me to be able to find real bagels and not just bags of Lenders.

What kind of coffee? The choices that are available now make me dizzy.
Should I look for anything specific?

704 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:55:11am

re: #696 pingjockey
Hey good morning ping! How are ya today?

705 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:55:13am

re: #643 realwest

The Dems have shown no leadership or vision on the economy -- and somehow "paying taxes is patriotic" is not going to play in Peoria, especially among people who are worried about their retirement accounts. Since that part of the electorate votes in the 76-78% range, and the juvenile radicals and race/class conspiracy nuts vote in the mid-to-low 50s, dropping below 40% at times, the current Democrat rhetoric is not likely to win votes. It may give them bumps in polls, but actual voting behavior differs.

(btw, of the much touted "youth" vote, the left side of the spectrum hardly votes at all; 18-25 year-olds only vote at about 55-57%, and the majority of consistent voters in that age group are military personnel who overwhelmingly vote Republican. Obama's "base" is shaky and unreliable in a general election)

706 Truck Monkey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:56:29am

re: #700 realwest

Ah yeah, the Sienna poll - I think either they or Marist had Obama ahead of McCain with all NY voters by only 5% (and no, now I can't find the damn link!).

I don't put stock in polls but I do generally think they show a trend. If he is in this much trouble with the base, he is in big trouble.

707 lifeofthemind  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:56:47am

OK must make like a library and book but did people see my #327 & #572 on the last thread? I actually thought before typing for them. #108 was /sarc for the clue challenged

708 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:57:03am

I wonder who the ruling corrupt Chinese Communists would want to win in America? Clearly they would like a fellow communist.

709 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:57:06am

re: #692 realwest

Hey RW! Well you know damn near all the polls over sample dems vs repubs by, IIRC at least 5%. Rush had a poll he mentioned last month by Lucinda Lake and Bernie Goaz(sp) a bipartisan poll that is fairly accurate and one question buried in the poll hasn't changed by 2 or 3 percentage points in 20 years. The question...
Do you consider yourself conservative?
Somewhat conservative?
Moderate?
Somewhat Liberal?
Liberal?
The answer to the first 2 was over 60%. No I don't have no damn linky!
It may be on Rushs' website, but may not be accesible without being a subscriber. Don't know.

710 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:57:40am

re: #702 realwest

Does my 705 answer the question?

711 Syrah  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:58:03am

re: #682 Diamond Bullet

Is anyone else getting harassed by Obama campaign workers?

I live in northern Virginia, inside the D.C. beltway. About a week ago I told an Obama door-to-door saleswoman that I was "not interested" in discussing her savior with her. The woman actually had the gall to open my screen door and stick her head into the house while I was trying to change my daughter's diaper.

Since then, the visits have gone from maybe once every 3 days, to every day, to twice a day. Different people, random times, but everyone really excited about telling me all about Obama. Unprompted, they have started referring to both my wife and I by our first names.

We also receive 3-4 phone calls every day. It's gotten to the point where I just hang up the second I hear them launch into their script.

This morning, I left the house at 9 am to go to the office. There was an Obama campaign worker standing on the sidewalk outside my house staring at the back of my car - taking the license plate number or planning on where to slap an Obama '08 sticker, I'm not sure. This person also knew my first name.

This is unlike anything else I've ever experienced in any political campaign. I'm not a paranoid person, but I can't help but think that my refusals have landed me on some sort of Obama naughty list. Has anyone else experienced this? I'm not sure I can take another 6 weeks of Obamatons rappelling off my roof or sliding down the chimney.

Somewhere, somehow, they have you down as a Democrat. They are going to get you to the polls to vote for the Big O if they have to fill out the ballot for you.

You might want to check with your Registrar of voters and find out who and how many people are registered to vote at your address.

712 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:58:54am

re: #703 Knitwit
Well, no more coffee for me thank you - I'm now sufficiently wired on three BIG mugs of Kona and have chores to do.
And uh, where on earth did you find real bagels down here? I do have to run, so if you can't post it quickly, could y'all kindly e-mail me?!
And thanks again!

713 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:59:17am

re: #681 realwest

WHAT? Biden wanted to give the IRANIANS $200 million - for what?!?

I have no idea. To show "no hard feelings"?

714 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:00:02am

re: #713 MandyManners
Joe Biden and the mad mullahs can go fuck themselves, then piss up a rope!

715 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:00:10am

re: #710 Lucius Septimius
Why yes, yes it does, thankew very much!

716 aussiemagpie  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:00:29am

re: #685 realwest

"12.41 am here Monday morning" ah, I see you're still addicted to LGF too! LOL!
I'm glad they had such a great time here and have such a nice opinion about Americans!

Yes I'm back for sure now - no more lazy lurking

They were very impressed with the Americans they met in their travels

And the very warm welcomes from LGFers rightymouse and nonic (they spent a few days with them both)

Another highlight - seeing senator McCain's plane in Cleveland

717 Alouette  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:00:50am

re: #711 Syrah

Somewhere, somehow, they have you down as a Democrat. They are going to get you to the polls to vote for the Big O if they have to fill out the ballot for you.

You might want to check with your Registrar of voters and find out who and how many people are registered to vote at your address.

When I went to vote in the primary, I noticed that several of my kids are listed in the voter rolls for my address, even though they moved out of state years ago. When I mentioned this to the poll worker, she said they have to notify the Registrar in writing of the change of address in order to be removed.

It would be easier to order absentee ballots for them to vote here, while they all vote in the states where they currently reside.

718 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:00:55am

re: #682 Diamond Bullet

Is anyone else getting harassed by Obama campaign workers?

I live in northern Virginia, inside the D.C. beltway. About a week ago I told an Obama door-to-door saleswoman that I was "not interested" in discussing her savior with her. The woman actually had the gall to open my screen door and stick her head into the house while I was trying to change my daughter's diaper.

Since then, the visits have gone from maybe once every 3 days, to every day, to twice a day. Different people, random times, but everyone really excited about telling me all about Obama. Unprompted, they have started referring to both my wife and I by our first names.

We also receive 3-4 phone calls every day. It's gotten to the point where I just hang up the second I hear them launch into their script.

This morning, I left the house at 9 am to go to the office. There was an Obama campaign worker standing on the sidewalk outside my house staring at the back of my car - taking the license plate number or planning on where to slap an Obama '08 sticker, I'm not sure. This person also knew my first name.

This is unlike anything else I've ever experienced in any political campaign. I'm not a paranoid person, but I can't help but think that my refusals have landed me on some sort of Obama naughty list. Has anyone else experienced this? I'm not sure I can take another 6 weeks of Obamatons rappelling off my roof or sliding down the chimney.

Oh, my goodness! I'd consider a visit to the local police station.

719 opnion  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:01:20am

re: #711 Syrah

Somewhere, somehow, they have you down as a Democrat. They are going to get you to the polls to vote for the Big O if they have to fill out the ballot for you.

You might want to check with your Registrar of voters and find out who and how many people are registered to vote at your address.


Chicago should be the model. In Chicago your voye is sacred & private.
It is only between you & your Precinct Captain, who will actually assist you in the booth.

720 realwest  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:01:34am

Well all y'all it's been grand but I really gotta scoot to get those chores done today!
I hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

721 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:01:43am

re: #713 MandyManners

I have no idea. To show "no hard feelings"?

"Paying taxes is patriotic", just remember that.

722 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:01:45am

re: #674 Typicalwhitey

Do you have a link to that?
That cannot be correct.

I was wondering about that NY poll result too. Real Clear Politics has Obama ahead by 13 points in NY. Pollster.com has Obama at 53.7 and McCain at 36.4 in NY.

723 jacksontn  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:01:51am

This has probably already been posted but the video out by catholicvote is pretty strong and I feel is directed at Catholics on the fence. I doubt it will change many in Obamaland as they seem to be brainwashed to some extent but as a Catholic it hits you at the heart. I realize all Catholics do not vote on single issues but this will also address the recent Pelosi and Biden statement about church doctrine which really pissed off the church. The Catholic vote will be a key vote in PA, OH.

[Link: www.catholicvote.com...]

Its a long video so it is probably meant for showing in bible classes, etc.

724 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:02:21am

re: #688 FrogMarch

Absolutely. They will make Palin stupid and McCain senile. Obama - they won't touch the holy black communist. That would go against standard media bias and would be considered racist.

The skits would exaggerate his alleged good will to the point of absurdity.

725 ErnieG  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:02:38am

re: #682 Diamond Bullet

Is anyone else getting harassed by Obama campaign workers?

[snip]
This morning, I left the house at 9 am to go to the office. There was an Obama campaign worker standing on the sidewalk outside my house staring at the back of my car - taking the license plate number or planning on where to slap an Obama '08 sticker, I'm not sure. This person also knew my first name.

This is unlike anything else I've ever experienced in any political campaign. I'm not a paranoid person, but I can't help but think that my refusals have landed me on some sort of Obama naughty list. Has anyone else experienced this? I'm not sure I can take another 6 weeks of Obamatons rappelling off my roof or sliding down the chimney.

I'd really like to see them try that stuff on me.

726 Syrah  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:04:32am

re: #717 Alouette

When I went to vote in the primary, I noticed that several of my kids are listed in the voter rolls for my address, even though they moved out of state years ago. When I mentioned this to the poll worker, she said they have to notify the Registrar in writing of the change of address in order to be removed.

It would be easier to order absentee ballots for them to vote here, while they all vote in the states where they currently reside.

Yep. Interesting how that works. It is a good question to ask of the state politicians who come knocking on your door this election season.

727 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:04:37am

re: #714 pingjockey

Joe Biden and the mad mullahs can go fuck themselves, then piss up a rope!

Quite the combination!

728 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:05:43am

re: #721 Lucius Septimius

"Paying taxes is patriotic", just remember that.

I'm sure a lot of people will remember that.

I hope Gov. Palin works it into the debate.

729 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:05:45am

re: #727 MandyManners
I hadn't heard about Bidens' latest absurdity and it pissed me off. I'll do a better combo next time!

730 mama winger  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:05:57am

I just got back from the crash site. It's even closer than I thought! It's right at the end of my lane !

gah

the house is split in two - like someone was splitting a log. I can't see any signs of the helicopter, it is either in a million pieces or the NTSB has already removed it or I can't see for the crowds.

731 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:06:18am

re: #682 Diamond Bullet

This is unlike anything else I've ever experienced in any political campaign. I'm not a paranoid person, but I can't help but think that my refusals have landed me on some sort of Obama naughty list.

Have fun in the camps. At least you'll be in good company.

732 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:07:15am

re: #682 Diamond Bullet

It's like you are being attacked by a cult.

The Obama machine is starting to remind us of something in Europe...

733 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:07:31am

re: #730 mama winger
How long ago was the crash? The NTSB won't be moving anything until a preliminary investigation is done.

734 opnion  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:08:13am

A banker friend of mine was extolling the virtue of the bail outs Friday.
I agreed that I did not really see an alternative.
But then he went a little to far, saying that this could actually be a good investment for taxpayers, when the smoke clears.
I asked him if his bank would buy paper like this? I am still waiting for him to answer.

735 mama winger  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:08:16am

re: #733 pingjockey

How long ago was the crash? The NTSB won't be moving anything until a preliminary investigation is done.

About 5:30 this morning. My dog started barking and I thought he just had to go outside. I sleep like the dead and heard nothing.

736 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:08:48am

Hello, Lizards - I hope you are having as fine and sunny a day as we do!

Here is a report about a game which happened yesterday, and which you may also enjoy:

"BEING a hero,” as the American wit Will Rogers grimly reflected many years ago, “is about the shortest-lived profession on earth.” He could not have known that, nearly a century on, the term could come to apply equally apply to sportsmen and servicemen. He would probably not have believed that men who kick and run with a ball for a living are afforded such status, decorated with stripes of hyperbole, as those who spill blood and are deprived of limbs in the course of duty to their country.

But on days such as yesterday it did not appear so incongruous. On an afternoon charged with many emotions, but mostly unashamed gratitude for the Armed Forces, and particularly those wounded in service, and not a little old-fashioned national pride, they came together, as the great and the legendary of rugby union played out a contest between Help for Heroes, under Lawrence Dallaglio, and an International Select XV, captained by Scott Gibbs.

There are questionable celebrity charity gigs, apparently intended primarily for the greater glory of the participants, but that does not apply to this contest. There is a natural kinship between the men who thrust themselves into the maul and men who go to war. Before the game, one of the organisers, the former Bath and England man Simon Halliday, revealed the match had raised £1.1m to improve facilities at the Joint Services Rehabilitation Centres. Not for the first time yesterday, it brought a crowd of 52,254 to its fervent feet. ..."

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

(Football is of course soccer, and the amount of money raised is roughly double that in $$ ...)

737 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:08:53am

I think if Al Franken and many other democrats take over congress with a bullet proof majority and if Obama wins- it will be the beginning of the end of free speech. I hope I'm wrong.

738 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:09:38am

re: #724 MandyManners

The skits would exaggerate his alleged good will to the point of absurdity.

Obama will be the smart one... with a halo.

739 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:10:14am

Now it's time to eat the pancakes.

Later.

740 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:10:30am

re: #735 mama winger
Wow! The helo is probably still there, but in pieces. Hope the people in the house got out okay. Unfortunately, the pilot in the helo would have to be damn lucky not to be dead. Helicopters don't glide.

741 mama winger  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:11:44am

re: #740 pingjockey

Wow! The helo is probably still there, but in pieces. Hope the people in the house got out okay. Unfortunately, the pilot in the helo would have to be damn lucky not to be dead. Helicopters don't glide.

The reports I am hearing say the 2 adults and 3 kids in the house are alive but injured. It hit the upstairs bedrooms.

The two in the helicopter are dead, I hear.

742 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:12:07am

re: #736 yma o hyd
Well done! Bravo Zulu! Thanks to the clubs and the league.

743 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:12:33am

re: #741 mama winger
Damn.

744 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:12:39am

re: #692 realwest

Huh, well as I posted here (actually I think on the prior thread) A really curious thing did happen today. ( yesterday) While I was on LGF , a young black woman and a VERY tall white man knocked on our door and said they were taking a political poll, did my Mom have time to take part in it. So I went to the door and said "sure, we'd love to!"
He asked us if we were Republicans, Democrats or Independents. Mom said Republicans. They thanked us and left!
Honest to God true story and I still don't know what to make of it.

real, I posted this message in response to your post last night. I think you may have gone to bed before seeing it.

Very likely, they were Obama (or other Democratic) campaign workers canvassing the neighborhood. The idea is to identify their Dem voters (or potential Dem voters) so they'll be able to contact everyone during their get-out-the-vote (GOTV) efforts on or just prior to Election Day.

North Carolina is a hotly contested state this year, both for the presidency and for Elizabeth Dole's Senate seat. Based on what I've been reading and hearing, both the Repubs and the Dems are pouring a lot of resources into the state. Mostly, though, I think Obama is forcing McCain to spend money there. McCain will likely win.

745 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:13:01am

BBIAB, laundry time!

746 Syrah  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:13:59am

re: #732 FrogMarch

It's like you are being attacked by a cult.

The Obama machine is starting to remind us of something in Europe...

Blue shirts!?

Saw them on my street the other day.

Clipboards in hand, surveying the yards for signs and the cars for bumper stickers, . . .

Bastards didn't even offer to mow my lawn.

747 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:14:34am

Listening to several "talking-head" shows this morning I am convinced that from here on out "Fannie-Mae" and "Freddie-Mac" should be referred to as
"FRICK & FRACK>."

-S-

748 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:14:43am

re: #742 pingjockey

Well done! Bravo Zulu! Thanks to the clubs and the league.

Its really outstanding - and I loved it that they had serving soldiers playing in their sides. Oh - and they got the stadium, home of English rugby, for free.

749 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:15:21am

re: #738 FrogMarch

Obama will be the smart one... with a halo.

He'll be shown to be of immense patience and tolerance for the addle-pated McCain and baby-seal-clubbing Palin.

750 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:15:25am

Obama changes his position on Social Security.

Wow. Just wow. How can anyone take this man seriously?

751 itellu3times  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:15:28am

re: #734 opnion

A banker friend of mine was extolling the virtue of the bail outs Friday.
I agreed that I did not really see an alternative.
But then he went a little to far, saying that this could actually be a good investment for taxpayers, when the smoke clears.
I asked him if his bank would buy paper like this? I am still waiting for him to answer.

I'm just listening to Paulson on ABC not explaining it very well, either.

It depends on price.

If the bank paid $1,000,000 for a CDO, and the fed buys it out at $500,000, then everybody "wins", the bank stays in business with a write-off, and the fed might find the actual value is $600,000.

752 opnion  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:17:15am

Imagine if somebody slipped into a coma, the day after 9/11.
This person comes out of the coma today to discover that a Marxist, Metrosexual, who can recite the Muslim call to prayer in a flawless Arabic accent has a realistic chance to become the next President. What would he or she think?

753 jacksontn  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:17:51am

re: #752 opnion

Imagine if somebody slipped into a coma, the day after 9/11.
This person comes out of the coma today to discover that a Marxist, Metrosexual, who can recite the Muslim call to prayer in a flawless Arabic accent has a realistic chance to become the next President. What would he or she think?

That they wanted to go back to sleep.

754 stevieray  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:17:54am

re: #682 Diamond Bullet

A preview of an Obama presidency.

Remember when he spoke about a "domestic, civilian army", as well funded as the military, to serve as sort of a domestic peace corps? I think he has something like Wilson's American Protective League in mind.

As Michelle told us... we won't be able to go back to our own private lives, we will live to serve the whims of an Obama administration. Whatever they think is the common good, so shall we, and we will be "volunteers" in that effort.

755 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:18:16am

re: #752 opnion

Imagine if somebody slipped into a coma, the day after 9/11.
This person comes out of the coma today to discover that a Marxist, Metrosexual, who can recite the Muslim call to prayer in a flawless Arabic accent has a realistic chance to become the next President. What would he or she think?

That we lost...

756 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:18:52am

re: #748 yma o hyd
Sweet!

757 doriangrey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:18:56am

Good morning Lizards..............

758 nyc redneck  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:19:29am

re: #730 mama winger

I just got back from the crash site. It's even closer than I thought! It's right at the end of my lane !

gah

the house is split in two - like someone was splitting a log. I can't see any signs of the helicopter, it is either in a million pieces or the NTSB has already removed it or I can't see for the crowds.

how terrible. you just never know when your number is up. i'm glad your house wasn't hit. how sad for the home owners who were. and the people in the helicopter.
this is just a reminder to live and enjoy everyday that we have.

759 itellu3times  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:19:59am

re: #752 opnion

Imagine if somebody slipped into a coma, the day after 9/11.
This person comes out of the coma today to discover that a Marxist, Metrosexual, who can recite the Muslim call to prayer in a flawless Arabic accent has a realistic chance to become the next President. What would he or she think?

They'd probably want to kill and field-dress a moose.

760 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:20:12am

re: #751 itellu3times

I'm just listening to Paulson on ABC not explaining it very well, either.

It depends on price.

If the bank paid $1,000,000 for a CDO, and the fed buys it out at $500,000, then everybody "wins", the bank stays in business with a write-off, and the fed might find the actual value is $600,000.

"itu3t" -

YOU GOT THE PROGRAM - Structured Rather than Sudden Liquidation.

-S-

761 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:20:31am

Mama Winger,

Glad to hear it was at the _other_ end of the lane!

762 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:21:34am

re: #757 doriangrey
Mornin' DG. Who're the dolts playing today? The Seachickens are playing the Rams. We could be 0-3 real quick! OMG, Wallace has chuckie schumer on! Gaaah!

763 Truck Monkey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:21:34am

re: #752 opnion

Imagine if somebody slipped into a coma, the day after 9/11.
This person comes out of the coma today to discover that a Marxist, Metrosexual, who can recite the Muslim call to prayer in a flawless Arabic accent has a realistic chance to become the next President. What would he or she think?

He/she would ask for someone to bash him/her in the head again so the state of coma could be achieved again.

764 Syrah  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:22:19am

re: #754 stevieray

A preview of an Obama presidency.

Remember when he spoke about a "domestic, civilian army", as well funded as the military, to serve as sort of a domestic peace corps? I think he has something like Wilson's American Protective League in mind.

As Michelle told us... we won't be able to go back to our own private lives, we will live to serve the whims of an Obama administration. Whatever they think is the common good, so shall we, and we will be "volunteers" in that effort.

The "domestic, civilian army" speech.

You got it stevieray, the Big O is Wilson without the restraints.

765 yma o hyd  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:22:26am

More about the terrorist bomb in Islamabad - the last paragraphs in this BBC report is especially telling:

"Last May, the top commander of the Pakistan Taleban, Baitullah Mahsud, had this to say when he spoke to the BBC: "We do not expect the new government to change anything. But we will fight it, every way we can and if we are not safe in our homes, neither will they be."

'They' has now come to signify ordinary Pakistanis and that shift speaks volumes of how this war has changed in character.
It is no more a stop-start battle of wavering ideals. It is now, without doubt, a battle to the death for the soul of Pakistan."

766 opnion  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:24:38am

re: #751 itellu3times

I'm just listening to Paulson on ABC not explaining it very well, either.

It depends on price.

If the bank paid $1,000,000 for a CDO, and the fed buys it out at $500,000, then everybody "wins", the bank stays in business with a write-off, and the fed might find the actual value is $600,000.

Coud be, but an invstment house would never purchase this paper.
It is galling to see Chris Dodd, one of the primatry whores & largesse recipients act all indignant on TV.

767 abolitionist  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:24:56am

Al Qaeda suspected of Pakistan's Marriott bombing

Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:07am ED
By Aftab Borka

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - The suicide bomb attack that killed 53 people at the Marriott Hotel in Pakistan's capital on Saturday bore the hallmarks of an operation by al Qaeda or an affiliate, Pakistani and U.S. intelligence officials said.
[snip]

768 jacksontn  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:25:01am

The one scene that just friggin drives me nuts is that if Obama is elected our troops will have to salute him. I just cannot stomach the thought of him coming off a helicopter and saluting. I swear this election is really getting to me. I need to get a grip....

769 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:25:25am

re: #766 opnion
Paulson was just on Wallaces' show here on the left coast. DID NOT impress me!

770 Geepers  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:25:27am

opnion (#752),

Imagine if somebody slipped into a coma, the day after 9/11.
This person comes out of the coma today to discover that a Marxist, Metrosexual, who can recite the Muslim call to prayer in a flawless Arabic accent has a realistic chance to become the next President. What would he or she think?

That we're a country awash with intolerant racists?

771 opnion  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:25:41am

re: #759 itellu3times

They'd probably want to kill and field-dress a moose.

Ok, you just won.

772 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:25:44am

re: #759 itellu3times

They'd probably want to kill and field-dress a moose.

"itu3t" -

No kidding. There was once a President under who we fought a successful war, saw the end of the evil empire, had the economy on the way back, and approval ratings as high as 91% at one point. He Lost - and so began the "Clinton Era." If you had taken the script to Hollywood, you'd have been thrown out on your ear.

-S-

773 itellu3times  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:26:22am

Chris Dodd parrots the democratic position on the finance breakdown - "it's a foreclosure crisis".

Not five minutes ago, Paulson surprised me pleasantly when he said "The vast majority of the problem loans are speculators who do not want to hold onto their properties and are not living in them, or never had the ability to live in them in the first place." On that last, IOW, your gardener making $30k/year, signs up for one of those "get rich quick" systems, signs his name on a $400,000 loan, no money down, on a nice house where he used to cut the grass, planning to make no payments, and sell the house just before the bank repossesses it, making $20,000. Chris Dodd and the democrats want to bail him out, give him a $20,000 break on the mortgage "to stay in the house".

If Paulson is right, and I think he is, it was never a foreclosure crisis, it was a bubble, with bubble-heads at ever level, from retail borrower to investment bank president to AIG accountant and Anderson auditor to Merrill Lynch retail broker to Joe Portfolio retail mutual fund customer.

774 opnion  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:26:44am

re: #769 pingjockey

Paulson was just on Wallaces' show here on the left coast. DID NOT impress me!

No , too much stammering, like a guy who has some splainin to do.

775 BBEV  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:27:02am

re: #766 opnion

Coud be, but an invstment house would never purchase this paper.
It is galling to see Chris Dodd, one of the primatry whores & largesse recipients act all indignant on TV.

Is this going to be like the "Resolution trust Corp" of the early 90's? Buying up bad loans "houses and other real estate" and the selling them?

776 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:27:03am

Hah! Schumer won't answer the question.."do democrats feel it is patriotic to pay higher taxes?" Heh.

777 doriangrey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:27:24am

re: #762 pingjockey

Mornin' DG. Who're the dolts playing today? The Seachickens are playing the Rams. We could be 0-3 real quick! OMG, Wallace has chuckie schumer on! Gaaah!

Their not playing today.... It's Monday night football against the Jet's.......

778 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:28:04am

re: #774 opnion
GMTA!

779 itellu3times  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:28:56am

re: #766 opnion

Coud be, but an invstment house would never purchase this paper.

Waddaya mean, they already purchased the paper, the problem is they can't unload it, except to this new RTC.

You mean, they wouldn't buy it now, under current conditions. Well, sure they would, at the right price. Merrill Lynch unloaded I forget how much, couple of hundred billion, to an investor, at about twenty cents on the dollar, a few weeks ago.

780 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:29:14am

re: #777 doriangrey
Well then you should win...Unless y'all have to play against the zebras again! We have 6! All 6 wide recievers out for the year!

781 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:29:18am
782 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:30:57am

re: #781 ploome hineni
Don't hold your breath! Look at the idiot Saudis. Keep madrasses open, and the folks running those want the royal family dead and gone.

783 itellu3times  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:31:08am

re: #775 BBEV

Is this going to be like the "Resolution trust Corp" of the early 90's? Buying up bad loans "houses and other real estate" and the selling them?

That's the question.

I think Paulson's idea is they should only buy these bad CDOs.

I think the democrats want to also buy out individual loans, and give actual grants to individuals holding loans.

I think Paulson is right.

As long as the fed buys the CDOs at a fat discount, it is a good solution.

784 stevieray  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:31:19am

re: #764 Syrah

The "domestic, civilian army" speech.

You got it stevieray, the Big O is Wilson without the restraints.

Wilson was, by far, the worst president we ever had. He was a dictator wannabe. I am deeply suspicious of anyone who sees his presidency as a positive... only someone with a totalitarian nature could like what he did.

785 doriangrey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:31:24am

re: #780 pingjockey

Well then you should win...Unless y'all have to play against the zebras again! We have 6! All 6 wide recievers out for the year!

The Chargers need Gov. Palin to go Zebra hunting just before the game.....

786 abolitionist  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:32:02am

re: #767 abolitionist

Sorry for the bad link; correction:
Al Qaeda suspected of Pakistan's Marriott bombing

re: #781 ploome hineni
Agree.

787 JCM  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:32:08am

Morning lizards,

WA has it's share of lunatics.

Forest Service officer killed in Clallam County

SEQUIM, Wash. - A traffic stop in the woods in Clallam County led to the shooting death of a U.S. Forest Service officer, a shootout in which a fugitive was killed and the discovery of a third gunshot victim at the home of the owner of a pickup truck he was driving, the Washington State Patrol said.
788 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:32:29am

re: #785 doriangrey
Mwahahaha! It just galls me to no end. The NFL is the epitome of football, and 6 referees still can't get it right.

789 JCM  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:32:54am

re: #782 pingjockey

Ping, you watch the Rossi / Gregoire debates last night?

790 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:33:37am

re: #787 JCM
Hadn't heard they caught the goblins. Told the wife I figured the FS guy had stumbled on a mobile meth lab.

791 doriangrey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:34:11am

re: #788 pingjockey

Mwahahaha! It just galls me to no end. The NFL is the epitome of football, and 6 referees still can't get it right.

Depends on how you define right.............. :O

792 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:34:40am

re: #789 JCM
Didn't know it was on until too late! How'd Dino do? Have you seen the chrissy ads with the sick folks? When did she start running health care?

793 JCM  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:35:10am

re: #790 pingjockey

Hadn't heard they caught the goblins. Told the wife I figured the FS guy had stumbled on a mobile meth lab.

That was my first thought too, van no plates driver's willing to shoot a cop.

At least we say the trial cost thanks to Callam Co. Sheriff's. (the bad guy did draw down on 'em)

794 BBEV  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:35:12am

re: #783 itellu3times

That's the question.

I think Paulson's idea is they should only buy these bad CDOs.

I think the democrats want to also buy out individual loans, and give actual grants to individuals holding loans.

I think Paulson is right.

As long as the fed buys the CDOs at a fat discount, it is a good solution.

Does anyone have a link on the details or have they not come out yet?

795 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:35:24am

re: #791 doriangrey
Correct call! NO inadvertent whistles, etc...

796 Perry  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:36:38am

re: #550 Typicalwhitey

Good and you?
Only got 3 hours of sleep, the hubby was snoring like a damn bear!

Has he ever had a sleep study?

797 JCM  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:37:04am

re: #792 pingjockey

Didn't know it was on until too late! How'd Dino do? Have you seen the chrissy ads with the sick folks? When did she start running health care?

Gregoire is running against GWB.

Stickly speaking I'd call it a tie.

You have to be really inside WA politics to know Gregoire was full of shit. She kept shaking her fist at the camera to make her points, very annoying after awhile.

Rossi seemed business like and in control, Gregoire shrill at times.

798 akak  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:37:07am

yma o hyd

not so much


How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.
The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.
799 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:37:12am

re: #794 BBEV

Does anyone have a link on the details or have they not come out yet?

Here's an editorial that explains the general approach pretty clearly and, most important, is also very critical of it. Definitely worth reading.

800 itellu3times  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:37:46am

re: #794 BBEV

Does anyone have a link on the details or have they not come out yet?

I think these are just ideas at this point.

The problem is, stuff has to get done NOW.

As George Will just said, this is the first day of the administration of the new Emperor Paulson, he just minted himself a trillion dollars cash and bought himself the United States of America.

Now we have to stop worrying and learn to love the bum.
/Dr. Strangelove reference

801 JustMyView  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:37:57am

re: #799 JustMyView

Here's an editorial that explains the general approach pretty clearly and, most important, is also very critical of it. Definitely worth reading.

Whoops! Here's the editorial.

802 Perry  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:39:02am

Ribeyes with grilled onions going. BBL.

803 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:39:19am

re: #797 JCM
I just know we had the "trial" over here in Wenatchee and the donks won! After 3 recounts, massive fraud, etc...I hope what Reed did by purging the rolls may help, but with ACORN and King and Pierce county machines, I just don't know.

804 akak  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:40:09am

re: #767 abolitionist

Al Qaeda suspected of Pakistan's Marriott bombing

pretty similar to OKC bombing and Beirut too

805 opnion  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:40:46am

Later fans, I am off to see if the Bears can beat somebody.

806 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:41:18am

re: #805 opnion
Have fun! Maybe you can find a QB on the way!

807 mamashawna  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:41:27am

re: #682 Diamond Bullet

Diamond: I just copied and pasted your post into an email I sent to my stepsister. She lives in Virginia (her hubby works at the Pentagon). Will be interesting to hear what she has to say. Will post her response later if it's interesting.

808 Syrah  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:41:33am

re: #803 pingjockey

I just know we had the "trial" over here in Wenatchee and the donks won! After 3 recounts, massive fraud, etc...I hope what Reed did by purging the rolls may help, but with ACORN and King and Pierce county machines, I just don't know.

Its a worry.

Vote by mail makes the fraud so much easier too.

809 jwb7605  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:42:01am

re: #791 doriangrey

Depends on how you define right.............. :O

In the case of the Bronco game, the official admitted he blew the call right on camera.
I've never seen that happen before, but I'll take the win while agreeing with the official.
At least you have to credit Shannahan's "all or nothing" 2-point play decision for being somewhat sportsmanlike.
Tom Osborne did something like that several years ago, and cost Nebraska a national championship.
His ratings actually went up a notch with the Nebraska fans (including me)!

810 BBEV  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:42:11am

re: #800 itellu3times

I think these are just ideas at this point.

The problem is, stuff has to get done NOW.

As George Will just said, this is the first day of the administration of the new Emperor Paulson, he just minted himself a trillion dollars cash and bought himself the United States of America.

Now we have to stop worrying and learn to love the bum.
/Dr. Strangelove reference

I watched Dr. Strangelove last night, good movie.

I have another question. What is the point of no return for America's dept level. It seems to me that 11.4 trillion is a dept that puts into the bankrupt level.

811 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:42:54am

re: #808 Syrah
Oh yeah. The donks had multiple hundreds if not thousands registered at the King County administration bldg as their primary residence!

812 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:44:04am

re: #809 jwb7605
I loathe the Broncos almost as much as the Yankees and Cowboys! Even with ol' horse face retired! Heh.

813 JCM  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:44:21am

re: #803 pingjockey

I just know we had the "trial" over here in Wenatchee and the donks won! After 3 recounts, massive fraud, etc...I hope what Reed did by purging the rolls may help, but with ACORN and King and Pierce county machines, I just don't know.

It's gonna' be close no doubt. But I think Rossi wins first count, with enough of a margin to kill any recounts. Depending on the Presidential debates and further Obama / Biden gaffes WA may go McCain, that one may hinge on a recount. WA will then be the FL of '08.

814 pingjockey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:44:37am

BBIAB, dishes to do!

815 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:45:59am

re: #750 FrogMarch

Obama changes his position on Social Security.

Wow. Just wow. How can anyone take this man seriously?

He's the Janus Politician.

816 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:46:09am
817 Syrah  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:46:11am

re: #813 JCM

It's gonna' be close no doubt. But I think Rossi wins first count, with enough of a margin to kill any recounts. Depending on the Presidential debates and further Obama / Biden gaffes WA may go McCain, that one may hinge on a recount. WA will then be the FL of '08.

I worry that anything less than a landslide for Rossi and McCain will end up a Dem Victory in the "Recounts'.

818 yah  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:47:45am

re: #764 Syrah


[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

yikes!

819 abolitionist  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:48:58am

re: #804 akak

pretty similar to OKC bombing and Beirut too

Also a little like the first WTC bombing in '93 -- a truck bomb in the parking decks -- except for the part about one of the perps returning to the rental center for a refund of his deposit, claiming the truck was stolen. They've modified their MO to insure that won't happen again.

820 Syrah  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:49:24am

re: #818 yah

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

yikes!

Yikes is right.

For the left, the ends justify the means. They are on a mission from the God-state.

821 akak  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:49:30am

Saudis wanting the Royals dead and gone is a long way from doing

822 ErnieG  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:49:34am

re: #759 itellu3times

They'd probably want to kill and field-dress a moose.

I would have no idea how to do that, and all sorts of questions. For example, what kind of tie goes with antlers?

823 JCM  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:50:16am

re: #817 Syrah

I worry that anything less than a landslide for Rossi and McCain will end up a Dem Victory in the "Recounts'.

Reed's killed a lot of the shenanigans that took place procedurally. Sec. State can also step in and take over a county re-count much early if problems arise.

No more unsecured found ballots being counted.
No more ballot 96 a write in for Christine Rossi going to Gregoire.

I have a pretty high degree of confidence in the work Reed's done.

824 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:50:20am

re: #749 MandyManners

He'll be shown to be of immense patience and tolerance for the addle-pated McCain and baby-seal-clubbing Palin.

Any negative quality Obama might have - will be made to seen cute and endearing.

825 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:51:55am

re: #797 JCM

Gregoire is running against GWB.

Stickly speaking I'd call it a tie.

You have to be really inside WA politics to know Gregoire was full of shit. She kept shaking her fist at the camera to make her points, very annoying after awhile.

Rossi seemed business like and in control, Gregoire shrill at times.

Even after you factor in the ACORN fraud vote?

826 itellu3times  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:53:08am

re: #799 JustMyView

Here's an editorial that explains the general approach pretty clearly and, most important, is also very critical of it. Definitely worth reading.

He is confused from the first sentence onwards.

If the new RTC buys CDOs, they are buying bags of loans, most of which are good.

The old RTC did not buy loans, it bought S&Ls.

This proposal does boost bank's capital.

The proposal he quotes to force banks to raise new equity is idiotic - NOBODY WOULD BUY IT!

etc.

827 akak  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:53:19am
The Tel Aviv Stock Exchange ended Sunday’s trading day on a positive note, as the leading indices noted gains.
The TA-Real Estate gained 32.81% in the last half hour of trading, reaching 327.52 points. The TA-25 increased by 8.44% to 913.09 points, TA-100 rose 10.28% to 836.2 points and the Tel-Tech increased by 11.82% to 221.58 points. (Ynet)

creeping socialism everywhere

828 Syrah  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:53:33am

re: #823 JCM

Reed's killed a lot of the shenanigans that took place procedurally. Sec. State can also step in and take over a county re-count much early if problems arise.

No more unsecured found ballots being counted.
No more ballot 96 a write in for Christine Rossi going to Gregoire.

I have a pretty high degree of confidence in the work Reed's done.

I hope that you are right. The stuff that we saw last time was pretty amazing.

829 JCM  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:56:28am

re: #825 FrogMarch

Even after you factor in the ACORN fraud vote?

WA put 5 ACORN twits in jail remember.

Reed's purge 1 in 7 registrations from the state rolls. And instituted a lot of reform.

Lastly Poll watchers are going to be more numerous and vocal this year also.

Gregoire is a friggin' disaster and most people who just read the paper get that.

You can't wish the Viaduct, 520, the budget the tribal casino deals away. People notice that crap. And more drysiders like Pingjockey are feed up and the margins away form King, Pierce, Sno are going to be very high with high turnout. The margins in King, Pierce, Sno will be much closer than last time. I know a lot of dems that are feed up with the Queen passing the buck.

830 ErnieG  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:57:47am
"The trouble with chemists is that chemistry is too hard for them.

-Albert Einstein"

To paraphrase Einstein, the trouble with politicians, bankers, and Wall Streeters is that finance is too hard for them.

831 JCM  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:58:05am

re: #828 Syrah

I hope that you are right. The stuff that we saw last time was pretty amazing.

Amazing ain't the word.

Just starting with King, Co certifying an election with 2000 more counted votes than voters who voted is astounding. Then the rest? Holy mackerel!

832 jwb7605  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 8:58:26am

re: #812 pingjockey

I loathe the Broncos almost as much as the Yankees and Cowboys! Even with ol' horse face retired! Heh.

Hmm.
I'm lazy and don't feel like researching.
What pathetic excuse for a team are you a fan of?

My absolute favorite football team to hate is the Raiders.

We share the same baseball dislikes. (I follow the perennial powerhouse Kansas City Royals)

833 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:00:13am

re: #824 FrogMarch

Any negative quality Obama might have - will be made to seen cute and endearing.

Like a baby who finger-paints with poop!

834 Joan  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:00:30am

re: #105 cliffster

Before, they were overreligious simpletons. Now, they are racist, overreligious simpletons. Insulting the heartland didn't win the democrats the election in 2004 - the problem must be that they just didn't insult them enough...

Do you think they are attempting a "reverse psychology" tactic to manipulate voters? "Prove us wrong, prove you're not a racist, knuckle-dragging troglodyte and vote Obama"

835 JCM  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:00:51am

re: #833 MandyManners

Like a baby who finger-paints with poop!

ROFLMAO!

836 doriangrey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:01:10am

re: #831 JCM

Amazing ain't the word.

Just starting with King, Co certifying an election with 2000 more counted votes than voters who voted is astounding. Then the rest? Holy mackerel!

ROTFLMAO..................democrat/communist/jackb ooted thugs in their natural habitat..... The only way to prevent democrats from stealing an election is to not allow them to participate.

837 Joan  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:01:56am

re: #282 vxbush

Wow. The diggsters really hate Sarah Palin.

Hate is good. Hate is love. Two Minutes Hate the Criminal Palin.

838 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:02:00am

re: #832 jwb7605

Hmm.
I'm lazy and don't feel like researching.
What pathetic excuse for a team are you a fan of?

My absolute favorite football team to hate is the Raiders.

We share the same baseball dislikes. (I follow the perennial powerhouse Kansas City Royals)

The Broncos kicked the snot outta' the Raiders.

GO, DENVER!

839 jwb7605  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:02:12am

re: #833 MandyManners

Like a baby who finger-paints with poop!

MY turn.
*whack!*

/Back in a few ... need to refill the brain bleach container

840 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:02:29am

re: #835 JCM

Do you know what I'm talking about?

841 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:03:00am

re: #839 jwb7605

MY turn.
*whack!*

/Back in a few ... need to refill the brain bleach container

I'm glad those days are past.

842 doriangrey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:03:36am

re: #838 MandyManners

The Broncos kicked the snot outta' the Raiders.

GO, DENVER!

Yes indeed.... Go Broncos.... And take those

843 doriangrey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:04:32am

re: #842 doriangrey

Yes indeed.... Go Broncos.... And take those censored Zebra's with you....

Danged weird tags....

844 JCM  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:06:20am

re: #840 MandyManners

Do you know what I'm talking about?

Twice now, once the youngest boy who woke up in the middle of night with a full diaper and got board. The the girl, in the hallway!

845 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:07:00am

re: #843 doriangrey

Danged weird tags....

What's a Zebra?

846 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:07:44am

re: #844 JCM

Ever had a sculpture? Very special.

847 JCM  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:07:54am

re: #836 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO..................democrat/commu nist/jackbooted thugs in their natural habitat..... The only way to prevent democrats from stealing an election is to not allow them to participate.

Democracy the right to vote, but when it comes time to vote, they don't trust the electorate to do the "RIGHT" thing and have to cheat to win.

Yeah, real democrats ya' got there folks!

848 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:08:03am

That's enough.

849 akak  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:09:16am
Foreign Banks Can Unload Bad Debt Too: Paulson

lovely! how much?

850 doriangrey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:09:17am

re: #845 MandyManners

What's a Zebra?

Referee.......

851 jwb7605  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:11:51am

re: #845 MandyManners

What's a Zebra?

Those guys in striped shirts with yellow hankies.

Sports equivalent of voting precinct monitors.
They're either absolutely necessary (if your side gets the call),
or absolutely trying to throw the game (if the call goes against you).

What the Zebra did in the Bronco-Charger game last Monday night was the equivalent of saying "we've identified 2000 illegal votes, but since we already counted them, the votes stand".

852 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:13:08am

Kansas City used to have a great baseball team and a lousy football team. Then we had a pretty good football team and a lousy baseball team. Now both are mediocre. The Chiefs have a decent defense this year (Gunther Cunningham's defenses usually are), but their offense is dismal.

853 itellu3times  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:15:27am

re: #849 akak

Foreign Banks Can Unload Bad Debt Too: Paulson

lovely! how much?

As much as we sold them, maybe?

854 jwb7605  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:17:31am

re: #852 Tigger2005

Kansas City used to have a great baseball team and a lousy football team. Then we had a pretty good football team and a lousy baseball team. Now both are mediocre. The Chiefs have a decent defense this year (Gunther Cunningham's defenses usually are), but their offense is dismal.

Kansas City offense this year is having the opposite kind of luck the Denver offense is having.

Both teams have IMO a mediocre defense.
It will be entertaining to watch that game.

855 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:17:50am

re: #829 JCM

WA put 5 ACORN twits in jail remember.

Reed's purge 1 in 7 registrations from the state rolls. And instituted a lot of reform.

Lastly Poll watchers are going to be more numerous and vocal this year also.

Gregoire is a friggin' disaster and most people who just read the paper get that.

You can't wish the Viaduct, 520, the budget the tribal casino deals away. People notice that crap. And more drysiders like Pingjockey are feed up and the margins away form King, Pierce, Sno are going to be very high with high turnout. The margins in King, Pierce, Sno will be much closer than last time. I know a lot of dems that are feed up with the Queen passing the buck.

HOPE!

856 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:19:09am

re: #850 doriangrey

re: #851 jwb7605

A forbidden cheer when I was a cheerleader:

We have a a rope.
We have a tree.
All we need is a referee.
THERE'S ONE. (At which point the entire crowd stands up and points to the offending zebra.)

857 lawhawk  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:19:21am

re: #765 yma o hyd

I've been noting that the most likely culprit in yesterday's bombing is Mehsud.

858 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:20:03am

re: #833 MandyManners

Like a baby who finger-paints with poop!

Yes.
LOLOLOLOL!

Sorry I'm late posting - breakfast must be consumed or my blood sugar drops and i get really grumpy.

859 jwb7605  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:20:45am

re: #856 MandyManners

FOTFLMAO!

860 JCM  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:20:45am

re: #855 FrogMarch

HOPE!

Change in WA!

Gotta run later

861 doriangrey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:20:49am

re: #856 MandyManners

re: #851 jwb7605

A forbidden cheer when I was a cheerleader:

We have a a rope.
We have a tree.
All we need is a referee.
THERE'S ONE. (At which point the entire crowd stands up and points to the offending zebra.)

/imagines Mandy in teeny weenie cheerleader outfit...... /ducks..................

862 doriangrey  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:22:11am

re: #858 FrogMarch

Yes.
LOLOLOLOL!

Sorry I'm late posting - breakfast must be consumed or my blood sugar drops and i get really grumpy.


Hmmm, well that fails to explain why you are really grumpy the rest of the time..... ;p

863 Occasional Reader  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:23:10am

re: #856 MandyManners

A forbidden cheer when I was a cheerleader:

I'm glad it was forbidden; that's more than a little weird, IMHO.

Anyway.

So I'm watching Wolf Blitzer, and I do have to say he's not as nakedly partisan as one expects from CNN typically.

864 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2008 9:24:06am

re: #829 JCM

Are the Acorn twats still in jail? and yes - I didn't know that they were in jail. that's the best news I've heard all day.


Here in formerly red-state Colorado (I hate to be defeatist - but it looks bad) it looks like a democrat sweep. The Demos got an early start with the political ads, all while the republican ads are, for the most part, lame. the mood in the state is palpable - even though we have a terrible do-nothing democrat governor. The mood is pro-democrat all over the place. I might have to move.

865 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 21, 2