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Hitchens: Why is Obama So Vapid, Hesitant, and Gutless?

Politics | Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:16:26 am PDT

Hitchens nails it, in a piece on Barack Obama’s failure to surge ahead of John McCain even as McCain seems to flounder: Why is Obama so vapid, hesitant, and gutless? (Title of the day.)

Here’s a swift test. Be honest. What sentence can you quote from his convention speech in Denver? I thought so. All right, what about his big rally speech in Berlin? Just as I guessed. OK, help me out: Surely you can manage to cite a line or two from his imperishable address on race (compared by some liberal academics to Gettysburg itself) in Philadelphia? No, not the line about his white grandmother. Some other line. Oh, dear. Now do you see what I mean?

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1 soccerdad  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:18:10am

I can never tell if hitchens is with us or against us. he'll write shit like this and then bash bush in the next article.

2 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:19:02am

re: #1 soccerdad

I can never tell if hitchens is with us or against us. he'll write shit like this and then bash bush in the next article.

Bush ain't running.

3 Racer X  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:19:22am

Vote for the Hero, not the Zero.

4 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:20:17am

I remember

"Not OK to eat all you want"

BUURRRRRRRRRRRRRPP!

5 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:21:02am

re: #3 Racer X

Vote for the Hero, not the Zero.

That's really a great bumper sticker, because the Messiah's supporters can't bitch about it with out admitting the obvious.

6 debutaunt  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:21:10am

Vapid!

7 Knitwit  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:21:28am

re: #1 soccerdad
But whatever side Hitchens is on in a given issue, he's there 100%, with no hedging and waffling.

8 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:21:31am
9 debutaunt  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:21:48am

Hesitant and gutless, oh my!

10 His Favorite Heretic  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:21:56am
Why is Obama so vapid, hesitant, and gutless?

Because he's fuckin' Marxist, that's why.

11 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:22:30am

Racist!
/

13 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:23:01am

He may be gutless, but when it comes to harassing and slandering any opposition, he learned well from his Marxist handlers.

14 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:23:39am

re: #10 His Favorite Heretic

Because he's fuckin' Marxist, that's why.

Actually real Marxists are not so hesitant, Obama is just an empty suit with Marxist tendencies.

15 maddogg  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:24:20am
Why is Obama so vapid, hesitant, and gutless?

What would you expect from an empty suit? Courage, decisiveness, and character? No Democrat could get nominated with those defects.

16 Nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:24:26am
17 winston06  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:25:01am

great piece

18 alegrias  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:25:03am

"The notion that...."

"That's not change you can believe in."

(Two most memorable statements I can think of relating to this candidate)

19 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:25:08am

re: #10 His Favorite Heretic

Whose favorite are you, anyway? It's spelled fookin'.

20 Kenneth  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:25:28am

A couple weeks ago I got into an argument with a liberal about Obama's racist friend, the Rev. Wright. The liberal defended Obama saying that Obama had already denounced Wright in his "great speech on race" he gave in Philadelphia. I pointed out that in that particular speech Obama had defended Wright. It was several days later after yet another racist tirade from Wright that Obama denounced Wright. So you see, his fans don't even remember what Obama really said or when. It's all one blur.

21 winston06  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:25:43am

re: #1 soccerdad

he's with us

22 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:26:27am

re: #16 Nevergiveup

It is so big it is probably raw in the middle?

23 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:26:36am

"Uhh... uhh... ummm... uhhh..." What do you mean, he doesn't have any memorable lines?

24 Pastorius  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:26:42am

Ouch! That must have left a mark.

25 His Favorite Heretic  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:26:58am

re: #19 Cap'n DOC

Whose favorite are you, anyway? It's spelled fookin'.

I am not allowed to say. And you are correct: He's fookin' silly Marxist koont.

26 jill e  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:27:27am

I DO remember this quote:

"So I think he definitely has convinced people that he stands for change and for hope, and I can't wait to see what he stands for." —Susan Sarandon

27 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:27:28am

re: #1 soccerdad

I can never tell if hitchens is with us or against us. he'll write shit like this and then bash bush in the next article.

It doesn't matter. He's always good, and yes, I enjoy his commentary, even when it bruises my feelings.

28 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:27:35am

re: #20 Kenneth

A couple weeks ago I got into an argument with a liberal about Obama's racist friend, the Rev. Wright. The liberal defended Obama saying that Obama had already denounced Wright in his "great speech on race" he gave in Philadelphia. I pointed out that in that particular speech Obama had defended Wright. It was several days later after yet another racist tirade from Wright that Obama denounced Wright. So you see, his fans don't even remember what Obama really said or when. It's all one blur.

Kenneth -

You got it - Nothing but a blur.

-S-

29 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:27:40am

re: #20 Kenneth

"It's all one blur."

Of course.

30 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:27:56am

re: #12 Ojoe

World's largest Enchilada.

31 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:28:28am

re: #10 His Favorite Heretic

Because he's fuckin' Marxist, that's why.

For Hitch, that ought to be a winner.

32 jwb7605  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:29:13am

re: #27 Dianna

It doesn't matter. He's always good, and yes, I enjoy his commentary, even when it bruises my feelings.

I hope he registers as a Lizard for the next creationist-related topic.

33 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:29:57am

re: #30 wrenchwench

MMmmmmmmmm!
World's largest pizza?

34 yma o hyd  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:30:02am

'His managers are getting increasingly white or even green around the gills' - yep, thats why vile smears and lies are the mainstay of the Zero's campaing, not issues.

35 jill e  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:30:08am

You have
To be more than
Nothing, much more than a
Body, still more than a walking
Clothes-rack.

I mean,
Bodies become
Old and tired. At least,
Try to say something, anything,
worthwhile.

—Robert M. Wilson

36 Opinionated  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:30:10am

Democrat win elections by saying stupid things that appeal to stupid people.

During bad times more and more people suffer from temporary stupidity and are willing to listen to the Democrat's idiocy.

Obama knows his audience.

37 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:30:14am

re: #14 Nevergiveup

Actually real Marxists are not so hesitant, Obama is just an empty suit with Marxist tendencies.


So he's a vapid tool in Marxist clothing?

38 BrianA  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:30:38am

It's because Obama's just a sockpuppet for the real Marxists like Ayres, Wright and the others in the Chicago machine.

39 runrabbitrun  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:30:40am

Obama is what you get when you have a candidate created by central committee.

40 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:30:51am

OK who has the world's largest stein of beer?

This thread needs help.

41 aaron  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:31:13am

I think that

uh

you know

the junior Senator from Illinois is

uh

the Senator is

uh

a manufactured candidate.


If the technology was

uh

like for instance

if the technology existed

if we had already developed the technology to

uh

what I'm trying to say is

uh

that the Democrats should perhaps consider

uh

investing in the development of androids.


Perhaps an earmark is in order...

42 maddogg  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:31:26am
Here’s a swift test. Be honest. What sentence can you quote from his convention speech in Denver? I thought so. All right, what about his big rally speech in Berlin? Just as I guessed. OK, help me out: Surely you can manage to cite a line or two from his imperishable address on race (compared by some liberal academics to Gettysburg itself) in Philadelphia? No, not the line about his white grandmother. Some other line. Oh, dear. Now do you see what I mean?

Hope! Change! We can do it!

With Obama's supporters you don't confuse the issue by making memorable statements, especially if you simply aren't capable. You stick to slogans the simple can mindlessly mouth.

43 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:31:29am

re: #32 jwb7605

I hope he registers as a Lizard for the next creationist-related topic.

Particularly if he's been drinking, and Col. Kratman drops in at the same time.

They'd both have a great time, and the rest of us would just sit there with our jaws hanging open.

44 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:31:33am

re: #33 Ojoe

World's largest pumpkin pie.

45 yma o hyd  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:31:33am

re: #39 runrabbitrun

Obama is what you get when you have a candidate created by central committee.

Outstanding!

46 doppelganglander  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:32:23am

Obama has based his entire career on being an empty suit. It's actually an affirmative strategy for him. He has very deliberately never written anything or said anything or sponsored any legislation that could be later used to pin him down in any way. This is one of the qualities that gets my conspiracy nut tinfoil hat tingling; I really wonder if anyone could be that naturally blank or whether it's a Manchurian Candidate strategy with a certain Hungarian-born puppet master at the strings.

47 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:32:23am

re: #39 runrabbitrun

Obama is what you get when you have a candidate created by central committee.

Bingo, sweetie!

48 debutaunt  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:32:29am

re: #26 jill e

I DO remember this quote:

"So I think he definitely has convinced people that he stands for change and for hope, and I can't wait to see what he stands for." —Susan Sarandon

"Whatever", he explained.

49 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:33:15am

re: #43 Dianna

Particularly if he's been drinking, and Col. Kratman drops in at the same time.

They'd both have a great time, and the rest of us would just sit there with our jaws hanging open.

Except buzzsawmonkey. He'd be snarking up a storm.

50 Dave the.....  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:33:20am
Obama is what you get when you have a candidate created by central committee.

Outstanding!


Yep. Not a lifetime of accomplishment. Not a business leader. Not a career military. Not even a long time legislature leader.

Just someone who looks right to beat the evil Republicans.

51 opnion  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:33:28am

I am just guessing that Hitchens is no longer on the A Dinner Party list.

52 godfrey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:33:35am

Hitch:

By the end of that grueling campaign season, a lot of us had got the idea that Dukakis actually wanted to lose—or was at the very least scared of winning. Why do I sometimes get the same idea about Obama? To put it a touch more precisely, what I suspect in his case is that he had no idea of winning this time around.

Bingo.

53 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:34:05am
... What sentence can you quote ...?

This will have at least a small effect come November, as undecideds make up their minds.

54 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:34:06am

re: #1 soccerdad

I can never tell if hitchens is with us or against us. he'll write shit like this and then bash bush in the next article.

Well, Hitchens is a liberal, and the only thing he really "gets" is the WOT and islamofascism.

55 Eowyn2  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:34:08am

re: #1 soccerdad

I can never tell if hitchens is with us or against us. he'll write shit like this and then bash bush in the next article.

I think he's for Hitchens and recognizes the threat.

56 faraway  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:34:08am
Marin County Town Changes Name To 'Obama'

California

New city signs spotted:
Obama Public Waste
Obama Sewage
Obama Pothole Commission
Obama Refuse
Obama Risk Management

57 KibbyKat  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:34:13am

re: #41 aaron


Perhaps an earmark is in order...

^^^Zero's answer for everything.

58 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:34:20am
59 IgofAntioch  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:34:58am

Listen to McCain of Palin when they talk- you can hear it in their voice- they know what they believe. Obama doesn't know what he believes so you get all the hesitation and searching for words. With Biden you just get stupid stuff.

60 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:35:05am

re: #44 wrenchwench

Notice that they couldn't really increase the depth of the pie that much.
Giant Whisky Bottle


I have to get back to work.

61 Shug  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:35:25am

Stand up Chris, let em see ya

62 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:35:26am

re: #58 wrenchwench

Big beer.

Two, please...

63 FrogMarch  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:35:35am

Ditch the cult
Vote for the Adult


/forgot who said that first

64 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:36:31am

Hitchens - "whose own choice has set up a screech from the liberals like nothing I have heard since the nomination of Clarence Thomas."

I think that captures the Dem reaction in a nutshell.

65 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:36:33am
Why is Obama So Vapid, Hesitant, and Gutless?

My 2 cents, he is a puppet.

66 Wilderstad  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:36:44am

Obama's in the wrong profession. He should have been the low rent Will Smith.

67 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:36:48am

"Why is Obama so vapid, hesitant, and gutless?"

I don't know, Christopher. Is the answer because Democrats like girlie-men?

68 jwb7605  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:36:58am

re: #36 Opinionated

Democrat win elections by saying stupid things that appeal to stupid people.

During bad times more and more people suffer from temporary stupidity and are willing to listen to the Democrat's idiocy

Obama knows his audience.

I agree with the first assertion.
I disagree with what I italicized.
I think the jury is still out on knowing his audience.

I would point out that Obama's audience (those who attend his rallies) is visibly shrinking.

69 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:37:02am

re: #54 Ward Cleaver

Bite your tongue, Ward! The word "liberal" is the worst insult you can throw at Hitch!

He's a Marxist, and proud of it.

70 FrogMarch  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:37:46am

Obama is a media creation. Obama is a marketing creation. He doesn't have any real executive experience. He has a speech he gave in 2004.

71 totex-blau  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:37:51am

Vapid, hesitant, gutless and Marxist.

72 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:37:54am
Why is Obama so vapid, hesitant, and gutless?

Res ipsa loquitur.

The thing speaks for itself.

73 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:37:59am

If Obama is, in fact, a candidate of the Chicago Machine, I doubt that the Machine much cares whether he's a Marxist or not. The important thing is the service which he renders to them.

/venality is pragmatic

74 WriterMom  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:38:08am
he couldn't have chosen a female who wasn't the ever-present Sen. Clinton, and so he handed the free gift of doing so to his Republican opponent (whose own choice has set up a screech from the liberals like nothing I have heard since the nomination of Clarence Thomas).

HA!

75 Shug  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:38:29am

Vapidity is patriotic

/

76 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:38:31am

re: #56 faraway

California

New city signs spotted:
Obama Public Waste
Obama Sewage
Obama Pothole Commission
Obama Refuse
Obama Risk Management

I hope somebody tallies up the cost and counts it as an "in kind" contribution to the Obama campaign.

77 Dad O' Blondes  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:39:14am

You can keep the "CHANGE" --

I'll take LEADERSHIP.

McCain 08.

.

78 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:39:31am

OT, heads up to Charles and Lizards:

Via Drudge, Al-Qaeda planning "October surprise" spy fonts say

WASHINGTON — In the aftermath of two major terrorist attacks on Western targets, America's counterterrorism community is warning that Al Qaeda may launch more overseas operations to influence the presidential elections in November. [...]

Call it Osama bin Laden's "October surprise." In late August, during the weekend between the Democratic and Republican conventions, America's military and intelligence agencies intercepted a series of messages from Al Qaeda's leadership to intermediate members of the organization asking local cells to be prepared for imminent instructions.

If Al-Qaeda launch an "October surprise", we'll give him a November certainty: President John S. McCain.

79 Godzilla  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:39:41am

OT: Is there a link that explains how to download YouTube videos and save them?

80 yma o hyd  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:39:41am

re: #73 pre-Boomer Marine brat

If Obama is, in fact, a candidate of the Chicago Machine, I doubt that the Machine much cares whether he's a Marxist or not. The important thing is the service which he renders to them.

/venality is pragmatic

Spot on - and the emptier the suit, the easier to manipulate by the Machine.

81 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:39:49am
82 faraway  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:40:15am

We are mostly out of gas in faraway land.

Anyone else out of gas?

83 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:40:55am

re: #68 jwb7605

I agree with the first assertion.
I disagree with what I italicized.
I think the jury is still out on knowing his audience.

I would point out that Obama's audience (those who attend his rallies) is visibly shrinking.

He's a grower, not a shower.

84 jwb7605  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:41:04am

re: #79 Godzilla

OT: Is there a link that explains how to download YouTube videos and save them?

http://youtubedownload.altervista.org/

freebie.

85 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:41:07am

un-official Obama campaign theme:

It doesnt matter what I say
So long as I sing with inflection
That makes you feel that Ill convey
Some inner truth of vast reflection
But Ive said nothing so far
And I can keep it up for as long as it takes
And it dont matter who you are
If Im doing my job then its your resolve that breaks

Because the hook brings you back
I aint tellin you no lie
The hook brings you back
On that you can rely

CHANGE!

86 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:41:10am

re: #81 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

the world's smallest cheeseburger.

Sliders for Kittehs!

87 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:41:33am

re: #80 yma o hyd

Spot on - and the emptier the suit, the easier to manipulate by the Machine.

(update)
/venality is pragmatic ... and cynical

88 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:42:13am
89 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:42:16am

re: #37 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

So he's a vapid tool in Marxist clothing?

He's rather like a cube of tofu that takes on the flavoring of the dish it's added to.

90 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:42:41am

Wow...I actually found a picture of the worlds biggest di$%.

Brace yourselves.....

http://temple3.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/bill_cl inton_yeahihitit.jpg

91 Peacekeeper  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:42:59am

Why is Obama so vapid, hesitant, and gutless?

I'd disagree. He isn't any of those things. He's smooth and charismatic. The problem is that he is trying to hide his rough edges with focus group inspired strategies. So what do the (Obama) focus groups say (about OBama)? We may know someday.

92 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:43:05am

re: #1 soccerdad

I can never tell if hitchens is with us or against us. he'll write shit like this and then bash bush in the next article.

At least he's not guano-marsupial crazy like Andrew Sullivan.

Look, he's a British journalist. I'm British. I know his kind -- Fleet Street used to be populated with them. His principles take a back seat to standing out from the herd. His one aim is to be thought original, not right.

93 DaddyO  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:43:09am
94 jwb7605  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:43:13am

re: #78 vbspurs

OT, heads up to Charles and Lizards:

Via Drudge, Al-Qaeda planning "October surprise" spy fonts say

If Al-Qaeda launch an "October surprise", we'll give him a November certainty: President John S. McCain.

Falls right into the "Are they really that stupid?" question category.
My answer is consistently "I'm not sure. I don't know".

95 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:43:17am

re: #81 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

the world's smallest cheeseburger.

Looks like the ones I made last night.

/cooked too long

96 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:43:47am

re: #90 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Wow...I actually found a picture of the worlds biggest di$%.

Brace yourselves.....

http://temple3.files.wordpress.com/2008/ 06/bill_clinton_yeahihitit.jpg

So, is the winking eye the fake one?

97 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:43:57am

Iraq may execute MP for Israel visit

First his two sons were murdered. Now he faces prosecution. The reason for Mithal al-Alusi's troubles? Visiting Israel and advocating peace with the Jewish state - something Iraq's leaders refuse to consider.

Can we collect our money and bring them the f*ck home, yet?!?

98 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:44:04am

re: #96 CyanSnowHawk

So, is the winking eye the fake one?


LOL

99 turn  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:44:48am

"What sentence can you quote from his convention speech in Denver? I thought so. "

Not so fast Hitchens - how about Ummm, er, ah, ummm, er ah? See I was paying attention. Seriously though, you would think that his empty call for hope and change would really be getting kind of tedious with the lefties by now.

100 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:45:00am

re: #93 DaddyO

Astroturf !

That would be Astroturf Cameltoe. Two words that most of us never thought we would see together.

101 Godzilla  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:45:12am

Never mind about the link to saving YouTube videos. There's tons of links.

102 faraway  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:45:16am

re: #94 jwb7605

The latest Paki bombing is a game changer.

The truck pulled up to the checkpoint, but through it and did not pull up next to the building.

This is alarming.

103 FrogMarch  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:45:30am

re: #73 pre-Boomer Marine brat

If Obama is, in fact, a candidate of the Chicago Machine, I doubt that the Machine much cares whether he's a Marxist or not. The important thing is the service which he renders to them.

/venality is pragmatic

Exactly. Obama is the vehicle, the blank slate - where every left-wing interest group can harness the working class to pay for their absurdities and entitlement schemes.

The democrats want to make the US into Freddie and Fannie-
-Make millions building a house of cards
-Stuff democrat pockets with ill gotten money
-Topple it
-Blame someone else
-Blame free markets
-Get off Scott-free with more power
-Media act as willing accomplishes

104 DaddyO  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:45:58am

re: #100 CyanSnowHawk

That would be Astroturf Cameltoe. Two words that most of us never thought we would see together.

And I voted for Bush ;-)

105 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:45:59am

re: #94 jwb7605

Falls right into the "Are they really that stupid?" question category.
My answer is consistently "I'm not sure. I don't know".

Liberals said John McCain didn't know where Spain was. Al-Qaeda did them one better. They just think the US is Spain.

106 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:46:21am

re: #100 CyanSnowHawk

That would be Astroturf Cameltoe. Two words that most of us never thought we would see together.

Eww, that is so wrong! Hehe.

107 jill e  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:46:23am

Hitchens is this Catholic's favorite living atheist!

How I miss Oriana Fallaci...

108 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:46:56am

What I remember from an 0bama interview:
uh, uh, uh, is, is, uh, uh, a,a,a,a,a,a,a.

109 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:47:23am

re: #100 CyanSnowHawk

I am now glad I didn't click that link.

110 godfrey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:47:33am

Something stinks in the EU and

has led to a "staggering total" of 12,000 metric tons of marketable cod, with a potential value of £25 million, being discarded.

These data come from marine scientists at the government's Fisheries Research Service in Aberdeen. They show that, from a survey, carried out between January and June, 40 percent of landings of cod by weight are having to be discarded to prevent the fleet breaching the EU's quota restrictions.

At least 90 per cent of the catches are above the minimum marketable landing size, yet the above quota fish are being thrown back dead.

What? Central planning doesn't work? I am shocked.

111 rawmuse  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:48:24am

I enjoy Hitch, but he does hack me off about half the time.
That is OK, I am not someone who requires comfort or agreement in his reading.

112 jwb7605  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:48:29am

re: #102 faraway

The latest Paki bombing is a game changer.

The truck pulled up to the checkpoint, but through it and did not pull up next to the building.

This is alarming.

Which has me scratching my head, too.
Why would they pull that stunt after the announcement that Pakistani troops had been authorized to fight border incursions by American troops pursuing the Taliban?

Makes noooooo sense.

113 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:49:33am

re: #109 Dianna

I am now glad I didn't click that link.

It's not bad, not even NSFW. Kind of silly actually.

114 HelloDare  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:50:03am
Oh, dear. Now do you see what I mean?

Yeah this empty Marxist suit could be our President.

115 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:50:05am

re: #108 newsjunkie_ky

What I remember from an 0bama interview:
uh, uh, uh, is, is, uh, uh, a,a,a,a,a,a,a.

One of my favourite comments over at my blog, after I announced that Barack Obama would be coming to "UM" (Univ of Miami), was:

Catchy acronym for the guy...UM. What's next? Akron Heights...AH?

116 Outrider  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:50:21am

re: #56 faraway

California

New city signs spotted:
Obama Public Waste
Obama Sewage
Obama Pothole Commission
Obama Refuse
Obama Risk Management

This is a political stunt by an Obama supporter and bed and breakfast owner Kelly Emery who had created a perfect mirror of the green sign people read as they enter the town's limits.

Emery's sign has created little fuss in this politically liberal area, but the county said there are laws regulating such behavior.


Wonder if they would be a little quicker to enforce the laws if the sign had read McCain instead? Hypocrites.

117 DaddyO  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:50:56am

re: #112 jwb7605

Which has me scratching my head, too.
Why would they pull that stunt after the announcement that Pakistani troops had been authorized to fight border incursions by American troops pursuing the Taliban?

Makes noooooo sense.


Think about who we're dealing with... islamic radicals

118 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:51:10am

re: #114 HelloDare

Yeah this empty Marxist suit could be our President.

Never. I trust too much in the common sense of the American people. That Obama even has to get out the race card at the eleventh hour today, tells you that his internal numbers must be down the crapper.

119 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:51:39am

re: #112 jwb7605

Al Quaeda doesn't seem to be terribly nimble. It's a problem with fanaticism.

120 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:52:15am
121 J.S.  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:52:37am

Just this morning CNN broadcast some speech by Obama...Obama was in the Southern Preacher mode -- yakking it up with that fake Southern drawl...Obama was also into his usual conspiracy-monger mode ("it's dem gosh-darn elites from Washington, docha know...screwing da little guy.") And then he was saying (dictating to "da common Volk"), "don't let them tell ya...blah, blah, blah...now don't you go an' believe dat..." And it's not the words which I remember at all (absolutely zero memorable words) it's just that sing-song tune...that lulling sound of empty nothings...and -- "Now, You Don't believe anyone, but me -- The Liar." followed by the fake laugh.

122 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:53:23am

re: #78 vbspurs

I'd look at the Pakistan bombing as evidence of al Qaeda (or affiliated groups' working to carry out attacks ahead of the US elections). The situation in Afghanistan, Yemen, Egypt, and Somalia all bear close attention.

The spies are right to be concerned, but the way to keep it from happening is to continue on the offensive - going after the terrorists on their home turf and safe havens, including in Pakistan's lawless border regions like Warizistan and NWFP.

123 Spiritualized  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:53:54am
OK, help me out: Surely you can manage to cite a line or two

Change!

You want specifics and actual policies? Racist!

124 jwb7605  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:54:06am

re: #117 DaddyO

re: #119 Dianna

I'd hate to be on the team responsible for planning strategy based on "what are they thinking" and "what is the next most likely target".

125 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:54:19am

re: #121 J.S.

Just this morning CNN broadcast some speech by Obama...Obama was in the Southern Preacher mode -- yakking it up with that fake Southern drawl...

Oh, what the hell is that about, seriously.

He sounds like he's doing an impression of Martin Luther King Jr and Cartman. Respeck mah authoritah!

126 WrathofG-d  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:55:36am

re: #78 vbspurs

OT, heads up to Charles and Lizards:

Via Drudge, Al-Qaeda planning "October surprise" spy fonts say

If Al-Qaeda launch an "October surprise", we'll give him a November certainty: President John S. McCain.

Which is all part of the RoveMcBushBilderbergerzionistmasonRepublicanMcCain plan.

127 Zevy  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:56:01am

OT

It's 2:55 pm, and Rush has not mentioned the Jawa Report. Maybe tomorrow.

128 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:56:13am

re: #123 Spiritualized

Change!

You want specifics and actual policies? Racist!

Does "YES WE CAN" qualify?

129 snowcrash  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:56:28am

re: #125 vbspurs
LOVE your avatar.

130 jorline  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:56:36am

So much for supply and demand...barrel of oil is at $122 based on economic fears? Dow down 229 points.

131 Kenneth  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:56:51am

re: #126 WrathofG-d

you forgot to add "moosemurderinghockeymom" to the conspiracy

132 Buck  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:56:54am

re: #70 FrogMarch

Obama is a media creation. Obama is a marketing creation. He doesn't have any real executive experience. He has a speech he gave in 2004.

I beg to differ, he has managed this campaign very well. It was not easy to defeat the Clinton Machine. No one thought it possible, but he did "organize" his campaign very well, and pulled it off.

The point is Don't underestimate this man. He is not stupid, or going to go down easy.

133 yma o hyd  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:57:35am

re: #125 vbspurs

Oh, what the hell is that about, seriously.

He sounds like he's doing an impression of Martin Luther King Jr and Cartman. Respeck mah authoritah!

This fake drawl may well be somethign else which will backfire.
People are not stupid - they've heard him speak differently on TV and in the ads. If he goes on doing this fake speech, they'll rightly feel being spoken down to, belittled and made fun of by those elitists.

It doens't work - its dishonest, insincere, and people can feel that!

134 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:57:36am

re: #127 Zevy

OT

It's 2:55 pm, and Rush has not mentioned the Jawa Report. Maybe tomorrow.

He needs the story to be solid, and I imagine it takes a serious effort by his staff before he's comfortable with it.

135 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:57:52am

near the end of the "Ahmadinejad in Manhattan" thread

re: #239 pietercleppe
War with Iran would bankrupt the US. Israel can defend itself fine now as it has nukes. Therefore Iran will not credibly dare to attack Israel, even if it would have nukes.

pietercleppe
Registered since: Aug 11, 2007 at 9:41 am
No. of comments posted: 4
No. of links posted: 0

It's Belgian.

WOW!

136 debutaunt  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:58:27am

re: #108 newsjunkie_ky

What I remember from an 0bama interview:
uh, uh, uh, is, is, uh, uh, a,a,a,a,a,a,a.

Seared in my memory as well.

137 Spider Mensch  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:58:46am

OT..oil spiked back up to around $130 a bbl....fill up on your way home tonight, they'll jack the price at the pump by tomorrow morning if not sooner. bastards!

138 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:58:59am

re: #126 WrathofG-d

Which is all part of the RoveMcBushBilderbergerzionistmasonRepubl icanMcCain plan.

Remember when (insidious old liberal) Walter Cronkite came on Larry King shortly after the 2004 election? He credited Osama bin Laden with "an assist" to Bush for publicly backing Kerry, in a recently released video.

What sport analogy would they come up with now? How about a put out at 3rd base?

139 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:59:21am

re: #128 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Does "YES WE CAN" qualify?

Worked for Sammy Davis, Jr.

140 vxbush  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 11:59:29am

re: #132 Buck

I beg to differ, he has managed this campaign very well. It was not easy to defeat the Clinton Machine. No one thought it possible, but he did "organize" his campaign very well, and pulled it off.

The point is Don't underestimate this man. He is not stupid, or going to go down easy.

Ah, but is he managing the campaign, or is someone else? I would guess someone else is doing all the great managing.

141 nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:00:02pm

re: #137 Spider Mensch

OT..oil spiked back up to around $130 a bbl....fill up on your way home tonight, they'll jack the price at the pump by tomorrow morning if not sooner. bastards!

Probably to late already.

142 J.S.  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:00:20pm

re: #132 Buck

I agree -- even Hillary never really laid into this pos...the nearest Hillary came was to once refer to the fact that Obama's single source of "employment" (outside of academics and politics) was working for a slum landlord (and she got booed for that)...

143 jwb7605  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:00:29pm

re: #138 vbspurs

Remember when (insidious old liberal) Walter Cronkite came on Larry King shortly after the 2004 election? He credited Osama bin Laden with "an assist" to Bush for publicly backing Kerry, in a recently released video.

What sport analogy would they come up with now? How about a put out at 3rd base?

Safety. (two points)

144 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:00:30pm

re: #129 snowcrash

LOVE your avatar.

Thanks! I decided to give Kim Jong-Il a rest, what with his stroke and all. Which is much kinder than anything he'd do to me.

145 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:00:35pm
146 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:02:19pm

re: #133 yma o hyd

This fake drawl may well be somethign else which will backfire.
People are not stupid - they've heard him speak differently on TV and in the ads. If he goes on doing this fake speech, they'll rightly feel being spoken down to, belittled and made fun of by those elitists.

It doens't work - its dishonest, insincere, and people can feel that!

No.

Actually, Americans are used to it and accept it readily.

Watch the difference in how Oprah talks to a white guest vs a black guest.

It's a cultural thing.

147 nyc redneck  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:03:21pm

obama, vapid, hesitant and gutless?"
gutless describes him best. he doesn't have the guts to reveal who he really is and what he stands for.
he is hesitant abt. everything he says and does, so as to not commit himself to anything of substance.
and therefore he sounds like a vapid platitudinous fool.

148 arethusa  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:05:25pm

Now there's a town named after him in CA? I thought six Brazilian politicians was bad enough.

People, get a grip. This guy is not the answer.

149 vagabond trader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:05:50pm

PRESENT!

150 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:06:05pm

re: #146 Ben Hur

Piss on speaking differently to different people I say.

151 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:06:18pm

has anyone heard any recent news on the info from the captured FARC computers that mentioned BHO? If we're playing "six degrees of separation" with the candidates and their fans, I'd like to know more about how FARC feels about obama. Is that info available anywhere?

152 Jim D  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:06:56pm

re: #1 soccerdad

So bush and republicans are always in the right? reps and dems both deserve bashing

153 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:07:07pm

re: #133 yma o hyd

This fake drawl may well be somethign else which will backfire.
People are not stupid - they've heard him speak differently on TV and in the ads

As some may remember, I went to hear him speak live on Friday. The audience was about 80% African-American. In that context, I MAY excuse his odd cadence, because perhaps he feels more comfortable speaking like that to people who don't think it odd.

But when some protesters ("Blacks Against Obama"!) were escorted out, he actually paused, and smirked at them: "See ya."

That was so unpresidential. He was like the Fresh Prince: Smell ya later.

154 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:07:48pm

re: #149 vagabond trader

PRESENT!

I'm reminded of the General from Mars Attacks!

"Oh, it's a hell of an honor. But didn't I always tell you honey, if I just stayed in place and never spoke up, good things are bound to happen. Yeah... Ok."

155 valkyrie  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:08:04pm

re: #73 pre-Boomer Marine brat

If Obama is, in fact, a candidate of the Chicago Machine, I doubt that the Machine much cares whether he's a Marxist or not. The important thing is the service which he renders to them.

/venality is pragmatic

I remember reading somewhere that Michelle Obama's father was a precinct captain in Chicago. I grew up in Chicago and Michelle Obama and I are about the same age. When we were growing up there (me in Ed Kelly's Fighting 47th Ward on the North Side...she on the South Side, I seem to remember) you couldn't be a precinct captain without somehow having an in with the Daley Machine. Our precinct captain was somehow related to our Alderman Ed Kelly (who also ran the Park District and promised park jobs for votes). Has anyone looked into what kind of service Michelle's father may have rendered to the Daleys?

156 J.S.  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:09:19pm

re: #147 nyc redneck

As someone else (in the above) mentioned, though, Obama is gutless on most matters...but with one exception -- those whom he figures are "weak" and are his "enemies" -- then, his "taking them out" knows no bounds (he'll do whatever it takes -- including dirty tricks) -- then Obama becomes ruthless (that's a ruthlessness with fellow Americans of a different political point of view -- with them, Obama is 100 percent cut throat -- but with true enemies of the United States? yeah, gutless.)

157 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:09:23pm

re: #137 Spider Mensch

OT..oil spiked back up to around $130 a bbl....fill up on your way home tonight, they'll jack the price at the pump by tomorrow morning if not sooner. bastards!

Watch. Oil will crash back down to more normal levels on November 5th.

158 Viking6  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:09:43pm

re: #132 Buck

I beg to differ, he Axelrod has managed this campaign very well. It was not easy to defeat the Clinton Machine. No one thought it possible, but he Michelle did "organize" his campaign very well, and pulled it off.

The point is Don't underestimate this man woman. He She is not stupid, or going to go down easy.

there fixed it for you

/

159 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:10:16pm

re: #155 valkyrie

Has anyone looked into what kind of service Michelle's father may have rendered to the Daleys?
Perhaps it will be mentioned in a SNL skit !

160 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:10:48pm

re: #155 valkyrie

Has anyone looked into what kind of service Michelle's father may have rendered to the Daleys?

Racist!

161 nyc redneck  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:10:52pm

someone should tell obama how ridiculous he looks when he tries to shuck and jive in so many different ways to become one w/ his respective audience.
it is so undignified and unbecoming for a candidate running for potus.

162 yma o hyd  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:12:33pm

re: #146 Ben Hur

No.

Actually, Americans are used to it and accept it readily.

Watch the difference in how Oprah talks to a white guest vs a black guest.

It's a cultural thing.

Well - I didn't know that, thanks!

Just goes to show, doens't, how perilous it it to transpose experiences from one culture to the other.

I've been going on how this sort of thing is looked at here in the UK, where different dialects and forms of speech are still measured at the 'received' pronounciation of the Beeb - and where said dialects are usually regarded as marking one as belonging to the lower classes.
And said 'lower' classes, like all genuine peope, have a very fine ear for condescension and insincerity, for example when a politician tries to be pally and adopts a dialect everybody knows for a put-on job.
Huge mistake!

163 AZDave  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:12:35pm

re: #36 Opinionated

Democrat win elections by saying stupid things that appeal to stupid people.

During bad times more and more people suffer from temporary stupidity and are willing to listen to the Democrat's idiocy.

Obama knows his audience.

I don't know if I'd call the people stupid -- intellectually lazy is more like it.

164 Outrider  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:13:34pm

re: #152 Jim D

So bush and republicans are always in the right? reps and dems both deserve bashing

Do you always speak in absolutes?

165 DisturbedEma  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:13:55pm

re: #48 debutaunt

"Whatever", he explained.


OMG- so delicious!

166 davinvalkri  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:13:56pm

re: #26 jill e

I DO remember this quote:

"So I think he definitely has convinced people that he stands for change and for hope, and I can't wait to see what he stands for." —Susan Sarandon

Absolutely perfect! and from Susan Sarandon no less! Ha ha!

167 Spider Mensch  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:14:17pm

re: #157 Honorary Yooper

Watch. Oil will crash back down to more normal levels on November 5th.

unfortunately I'll need to fill my tank before november. but these wild fluctuations are part of the game now. and all that bullcrap you here about 2 weeks difference at the pump is for only when oil is on the way down, but when oil is on the rise, and with big spikes, you'll see it at the pump the next day.

168 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:14:22pm

re: #161 nyc redneck

it is so undignified and unbecoming for a candidate running for potus.

You'll notice he never puts on that accent when he's soliciting money from white billionaires in San Francisco. When Palin said he speaks one way in Frisco, and another in Scranton, it is literally the case.

169 DisturbedEma  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:14:30pm

re: #164 Outrider

Do you always speak in absolutes?

Absolutly. . .not, maybe, :)

170 runrabbitrun  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:15:17pm

re: #155 valkyrie

Has anyone looked into what kind of service Michelle's father may have rendered to the Daleys?

That's the kind of investigative coverage I was hoping for from O'Reilly's insipid 'Obama Chronicles' series. The segment on Michelle Obama did not give me one more bit of information than a casual websurfer could have found on a five minute trip through cyberspace. In fact, Bill's report on Michelle was more like a list of biographical talking points lifted from the Obama2008 campaign site.

171 Scooter McGruder  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:15:27pm

Barack O-kakis (picture).

172 yma o hyd  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:16:14pm

re: #161 nyc redneck

someone should tell obama how ridiculous he looks when he tries to shuck and jive in so many different ways to become one w/ his respective audience.
it is so undignified and unbecoming for a candidate running for potus.

But its pretty becoming for a MC, warming up the crowd for the next act in a show in Las Vegas ...

Thats what he reminds me of ...

173 DisturbedEma  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:16:24pm

re: #166 davinvalkri

Absolutely perfect! and from Susan Sarandon no less! Ha ha!


THANK goodness she repeated the whole jesus/organizer lie and promsed that was all she was gonna say. . .:)
So, I remember what SHE says, but not him. . .OMG you know what that means?

I am. . .star struck by the wrong PERSON. . .sigh

174 AZDave  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:16:56pm

re: #59 IgofAntioch

Listen to McCain of Palin when they talk- you can hear it in their voice- they know what they believe. Obama doesn't know what he believes so you get all the hesitation and searching for words. With Biden you just get stupid stuff.

Stupid is as stupid does.

175 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:16:57pm

re: #162 yma o hyd

Well - I didn't know that, thanks!

Just goes to show, doens't, how perilous it it to transpose experiences from one culture to the other.

I've been going on how this sort of thing is looked at here in the UK, where different dialects and forms of speech are still measured at the 'received' pronounciation of the Beeb - and where said dialects are usually regarded as marking one as belonging to the lower classes.
And said 'lower' classes, like all genuine peope, have a very fine ear for condescension and insincerity, for example when a politician tries to be pally and adopts a dialect everybody knows for a put-on job.
Huge mistake!


Yet, watch a BBC documentary or report in which they interview an uneducated non_English speaker from the third world, or some tribe somewhere, they always translate it into the highest form of English.

They turn clicks and grunts into Shakespeare.

176 valkyrie  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:19:08pm

re: #170 runrabbitrun

That's the kind of investigative coverage I was hoping for from O'Reilly's insipid 'Obama Chronicles' series. The segment on Michelle Obama did not give me one more bit of information than a casual websurfer could have found on a five minute trip through cyberspace. In fact, Bill's report on Michelle was more like a list of biographical talking points lifted from the Obama2008 campaign site.

I agree. I really do think she is the power player in the Obama campaign. For some reason she has protected status (much like William Ayers who's father was also a Daley crony). I just want to know why.

177 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:19:21pm

re: #100 CyanSnowHawk

I don't know why, but I went with the Updoinker for that one.

178 yma o hyd  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:19:24pm

re: #175 Ben Hur

Yet, watch a BBC documentary or report in which they interview an uneducated non_English speaker from the third world, or some tribe somewhere, they always translate it into the highest form of English.

They turn clicks and grunts into Shakespeare.

Yep - can't have natives spoil the language!
(They still make jokes about the Welsh and how they speak ... while thinking th eScots sound somehow firece and manly, gah!)

179 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:19:46pm

re: #174 AZDave

Stupid is as stupid does.

Life is like a box of Bidens. You're glad when it's empty.

180 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:21:28pm

re: #178 yma o hyd

Yep - can't have natives spoil the language!
(They still make jokes about the Welsh and how they speak ... while thinking th eScots sound somehow firece and manly, gah!)

In kilts, no less!

LOL!

181 alien_mind  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:24:10pm

one line I do remember from Obama's convention speech was something like "If you don't have any record to run on, then you try to cast your opponent as someone people should run away from. You make the election about small things."

any hypocrisy there? hmmm?

182 Kenneth  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:24:17pm

Sarah Palin to meet with 7 world leaders at UN

WASHINGTON (AP) - Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin may have little experience in foreign policy, but she's about to get a two-day crash course.

The first-term Alaska governor plans to meet seven world leaders and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in New York City this week, where the U.N. General Assembly is convening. The meetings might help her answer critics who say she is not ready to handle world affairs. Palin obtained her first passport last year.

On Tuesday she will meet separately with Kissinger, Colombian President Alvaro Uribe and Afghan President Hamid Karzai. On Wednesday she is to meet jointly with Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili and Ukrainian President Viktor Yuschenko. She then will meet separately with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

Ok, that's all well and good, but is it enough?

Palin also will sit down with rock star and humanitarian activist Bono.

Oh well then, she'll sit down with Bono, ... yes indeedy.

183 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:24:47pm

re: #146 Ben Hur

No.

Actually, Americans are used to it and accept it readily.

Watch the difference in how Oprah talks to a white guest vs a black guest.

It's a cultural thing.

That is true and has been documented by linguists. Black Americans often speak BVE (Black Vernacular English) among themselves and standard American English in public contexts. It may be a turn-off for some whites when he does it, but blacks will have no problem with it.

184 krypto  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:28:50pm

Of course I can quote from Barack Obama's speech in Denver, at least approximately. As best as I can do from memory, he said that one of the great Moral Failings of America was that Americans (other than himself of course) fail to follow the principle, "I am my brother's keeper. I am my sister's keeper."

That was easy!

I bet his brother George Hussein Obama, who has been living in a shack in a Nairobi slum on one dollar a month, would be pleased with how well I remembered his brother's words criticizing the greatest moral failing of America.

185 Millie Woods  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:31:03pm

158 has it exactly right. Obama is a pussy-whipped zero - but Michelle - oh m'god. She's toxic. And remember she's Bernardine's friend. You know Bill Ayers" wife who gets off on murdered bodies with slit abdomens as appropriate or should that be cool dinner party decor.

186 reine.de.tout  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:33:19pm

re: #161 nyc redneck

someone should tell obama how ridiculous he looks when he tries to shuck and jive in so many different ways to become one w/ his respective audience.
it is so undignified and unbecoming for a candidate running for potus.

It is undignified. Can you imagine this going on while meeting with the heads of state of various countries?

bleah.

Obama has no sense of propriety.

187 Buck  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:35:39pm

heh, he called it a "swift test"!

188 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:36:44pm

re: #183 Moe Katz

That is true and has been documented by linguists. Black Americans often speak BVE (Black Vernacular English) among themselves and standard American English in public contexts. It may be a turn-off for some whites when he does it, but blacks will have no problem with it.

But Obama is not really black, in the cultural American sense. So where did he pick this up from?

Oh, I know. Reverend Wright...

189 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:38:31pm
190 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:41:06pm
191 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:41:29pm

Much of this is Hitchens' own frustration with the left.

Hitchens is very much a leftist and would love for America to look more like France on the economic side of the house, but with hawkish libertines running foreign affairs with a focus on committing tyranicide whenever and wherever possible.

It is a classic European liberal view.

His frustration with Obama is understandable, both from our point of view and from the view of a committed and honest leftist.

Thing is, most "progressives" are simply protectionist "me firsters" and aren't particularly wed to any ideal other than having their political enemies placed in concentration camps. That is now coming into focus for Hitchens.

192 nyc redneck  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:44:00pm

re: #186 reine.de.tout

It is undignified. Can you imagine this going on while meeting with the heads of state of various countries?

bleah.

Obama has no sense of propriety.

he is an embarrassment.
uncouth, crude, vulgar.

193 J.S.  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:44:34pm

re: #183 Moe Katz

It would be much easier to accept if Obama were a Black American, raised in the South, etc. Then, I'd have no problems with the dropping of the "g" at the end of certain words, the slurring of certain words, the drawl (or dragged out endings on other words), that sing-song incantation, etc. But, the fact is this -- Obama was never raised in the Deep South, he has no claim to a Black accent -- it's all a fraud. It's all a put on. It's like an extremely bad actor adopting some silly accent and thinking it's "cool." Well, it's not (imo)...it just sounds so overtly phony/fake/pretentious and STUPID. (I mean really -- He's Harvard educated -- although, I guess that counts for what? some hick univ out in the sticks of Alabama?)

194 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:45:11pm

re: #188 vbspurs

True, he doesn't speak it like a 'native.'

195 yma o hyd  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:46:11pm

re: #191 karmic_inquisitor

And about time, too - that took Hitchens quite a while to figure them out ...

196 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:49:08pm

re: #193 J.S.

It would be much easier to accept if Obama were a Black American, raised in the South, etc. Then, I'd have no problems with the dropping of the "g" at the end of certain words, the slurring of certain words, the drawl (or dragged out endings on other words), that sing-song incantation, etc. But, the fact is this -- Obama was never raised in the Deep South, he has no claim to a Black accent -- it's all a fraud. It's all a put on. It's like an extremely bad actor adopting some silly accent and thinking it's "cool." Well, it's not (imo)...it just sounds so overtly phony/fake/pretentious and STUPID. (I mean really -- He's Harvard educated -- although, I guess that counts for what? some hick univ out in the sticks of Alabama?)

Well yes, it's an affectation, although Black Vernacular English is spoken in the North as well as the South and incorporates features of Southern English in both regions. I don't know whether this affectation would be offensive to most blacks or not. To me (and others here) it obviously sounds manipulative. Maybe they should do a focus group on it :)

197 zato  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:51:35pm

That's because Comrade Obama is for the kind of change that Castro brought to Cuba and most of America is not buying it. Blaming Barry's shortcomings entirely on racism is a preemptive, condescending cop out by the lefties who expected him to win.

198 alegrias  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:52:20pm

Oh my,

Obama's promised to meet with Spain's retreatist defeatist Zapatero--unlike JOhn McCain--because Spain is a NATO member.

(Haven't read whole article, but it's all over Spain's front pages)

España es «uno de los aliados de la OTAN»
Obama «por supuesto» se reunirá con Zapatero
Efe - Madrid
El candidato demócrata a la presidencia de los Estados Unidos, Barack Obama, ha asegurado que «por supuesto» se reunirá con José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero si consigue proclamarse presidente de su país y ha recordado que España es «uno de los aliados de la OTAN».
La semana pasada, en una entrevista concedida al grupo de emisoras de Unión Radio, el candidato republicano, John McCain, eludió hasta en cuatro ocasiones pronunciarse sobre si recibiría o no a Zapatero en caso de que llegase a ser presidente de los EEUU.

[Link: www.larazon.es...]

199 mattm  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:53:48pm

I can't wait to hear him speak at my school.

200 godfrey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:54:25pm

Maybe Obama is just one of those people who so completely lack a sense of identity that he just adopts the accent/identity of whatever person he's talking to at the time. I've known people like this. They're not even aware they do it. It's not necessarily manipulative; maybe it means they instinctively try to fit in, go with the flow, etc.

In short, not the quality of a leader.

201 Querent  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:56:00pm

re: #46 doppelganglander

Obama has based his entire career on being an empty suit. It's actually an affirmative strategy for him. He has very deliberately never written anything or said anything or sponsored any legislation that could be later used to pin him down in any way. This is one of the qualities that gets my conspiracy nut tinfoil hat tingling; I really wonder if anyone could be that naturally blank or whether it's a Manchurian Candidate strategy with a certain Hungarian-born puppet master at the strings.

again i offer my "vote McCain - stick it to The Man" sticker, with "the Man" = G. Soros...

202 J.S.  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:57:20pm

re: #196 Moe Katz

No, No, No -- No focus group. Definitely not. I say Obama should (must, absolutely must) definitely continue with the fake Southern Preacher yak...It suits him. In fact, I think Obama should try to emphasize this way of speaking wherever he goes...He should add in a few "Yo!"-s here and there also.

203 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:57:48pm

re: #79 Godzilla

OT: Is there a link that explains how to download YouTube videos and save them?

[Link: www.flashload.net...]

204 kansas  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:58:32pm

New York Times Watch

205 jester6  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 12:59:40pm

The Democrats seem incapable of nominating someone the people of the US are willing to elect as President. They only win when there is a strong external force in the election.

-Carter was elected in the shadow of Watergate.
-Clinton ran as a moderate yet still never had a majority of votes thanks to Perot
- LBJ won in the shadow of JFK's assassination and was unceremoniously consumed by the leftist cannibals in his own party before he could run for his second term.

This current poltical environment is probably almost as pro-Democrat as Carter's election in 76. If the Democratic nominee cannot win in this environment they may never win.

206 J.S.  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:00:29pm

re: #200 godfrey

I think you raise an excellent point...I recall reading (was it from Obama's biography?) that he actually wanted to be a blank slate -- or act like a mirror -- so that whatever you wanted to see in him, you'd see...(he'd just be a reflector...I think this did arise as a consequence of all that confusion about his identity in his childhood.)

207 Moe Katz  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:02:27pm

re: #200 godfrey

Maybe Obama is just one of those people who so completely lack a sense of identity that he just adopts the accent/identity of whatever person he's talking to at the time. I've known people like this. They're not even aware they do it. It's not necessarily manipulative; maybe it means they instinctively try to fit in, go with the flow, etc.

In short, not the quality of a leader.

Yes, maybe it isn't consciously manipulative. I compared him upthread to a cube of tofu that absorbs its flavor from its culinary surroundings, so that would fit. The texture of tofu is also suggestive.

208 godfrey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:03:01pm

re: #206 J.S.

Oy. His psych issues aren't trivial. He should never have put himself forward.

209 WinterCat  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:08:35pm

re: #46 doppelganglander

I have long wondered why Obama avoided voting on significant legislation during his exceptionally short and undistinguished yet skyrocketing political career. Although, his few extremely liberal votes tend to pin him down despite his efforts to remain a blank canvas. Why did he choose to vote present so many times rather than take a stand? Was he simply uninformed and didn't wish to make a bad decision? If so, what the heck was he doing in office? Didn't he have time to read up on any pending legislation? Or was he just running for president from day one? (I think I have pretty much answered my own question here.)

I wonder how many democrats go to bed at night and force themselves push away their deep down doubts about this man because they feel obliged to vote the party?

210 Colonel Panik  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:08:40pm

re: #66 Wilderstad

Obama's in the wrong profession. He should have been the low rent Will Smith.

I like to refer to The One as The Fresh Prince of Hot Air.

211 Querent  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:09:46pm

#210
i regret that i have but one upding to give for that comment!

(rofl)

212 neocon hippie  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:15:49pm

re: #137 Spider Mensch

Oil is at $108/bbl at the moment.

213 bill-tb  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:20:36pm

errr, ahhh. uhhh, ummm ... yep, that's the problem alright.

214 J.S.  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:27:26pm

re: #208 godfrey

So you think Obama has significant psych "issues"? and that these "issues" are potentially problematic? (I tend to think the same -- that is, that there are problems going on -- and it will only prove worse if/when elected...I'm thinking that an Obama presidency would be the very worse ever in American history...wonder if he'd even be able to survive a term without impeachment proceedings, etc.)

215 jpkoch  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:31:31pm

re: #212 neocon hippie

Oil is at $108/bbl at the moment.

Two things:

The dollar is about to take a severe beating as the Treasury has already poured nearly a half trillion dollars in liquidity into the world markets, and the Treausry balance sheets will go further down the toilet once Congress passes Paulson's bailout plan.

Investors and again rusing to commodities and fixed assests such as gold and oil (and other currencies) as an inflation hedge. The Fed Chairman absolutely does not want to raise interest rates, but with so many dollars floating around he may have to.

216 ladycatnip  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:37:27pm

How about this quote: "The oceans will cease rising, the planet will heal..." [if you're all stupid enough to elect me.]

217 Scion9  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:37:51pm

re: #112 jwb7605

Which has me scratching my head, too.
Why would they pull that stunt after the announcement that Pakistani troops had been authorized to fight border incursions by American troops pursuing the Taliban?

Makes noooooo sense.

Rageboy no read newspaper.

218 gmsc  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:42:04pm

re: #66 Wilderstad

Obama's in the wrong profession. He should have been the low rent Will Smith.

I can just see the movies now:

Ind - uh, uh - pendence Day
I am Hope/Change Legend
Men In Black Theocracy
The Audacity of Happyness

219 vagabond trader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:43:19pm

It is sickening to think that this "most ethical congress" is blaming everyone but their own greed and cronyism for the worst financial crisis in my lifetime. Why is this pos Raines and the other criminals not in jail, their ill gotten gains confiscated? If I fail to pay a traffic ticket they come looking for me. A pox on them all!

220 gmsc  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:44:50pm

This article does provide a great explanation of why the Sarah Palin Astroturfing campaign may have been one of the few choices the Dems had.

221 ladycatnip  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:48:43pm

#207 Moe Katz

Yes, maybe it isn't consciously manipulative. I compared him upthread to a cube of tofu that absorbs its flavor from its culinary surroundings, so that would fit. The texture of tofu is also suggestive.

You are too kind. But you get my up-ding anyway. Any man who has his pic taken with halos in the background is an extreme narcissist and manipulator. Your tofu analogy of him absorbing the flavors around him is absolutely right on the money, but more gracious than I could ever be. When he speaks I hear a giant sucking sound - the Obamavac sucking the life and livelihoods out of the very people he wishes to reign.

222 ladycatnip  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:56:59pm

#193 J.S.

It would be much easier to accept if Obama were a Black American, raised in the South, etc. Then, I'd have no problems with the dropping of the "g" at the end of certain words, the slurring of certain words, the drawl (or dragged out endings on other words), that sing-song incantation, etc. But, the fact is this -- Obama was never raised in the Deep South, he has no claim to a Black accent -- it's all a fraud. It's all a put on. It's like an extremely bad actor adopting some silly accent and thinking it's "cool." Well, it's not (imo)...it just sounds so overtly phony/fake/pretentious and STUPID. (I mean really -- He's Harvard educated -- although, I guess that counts for what? some hick univ out in the sticks of Alabama?)

Amen! I've also posted the same thing on other threads and it's annoying as heck to me. It's also beyond pretentious. His sing-song cadence is right out of the stereotypical Black pulpit, probably trying to evoke MLK. Everything this man does is fake. At least MLK had a real message, brought about real change; his life counted for something beyond his own political ambitions. Obama is a poseur.

223 vagabond trader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:00:54pm

The Obama is a dangerous chimera.Something for everyone nothing for all.

224 Miss Molly  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:02:22pm

Obama started as a street agitator and still is nothing more than a street agitator only now wearing very expensive suits.

225 skree  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:09:33pm

If McCain = Bush
then
Obama = Wright

226 gatorbait  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:21:48pm

re: #46 doppelganglander

Obama has based his entire career on being an empty suit. It's actually an affirmative strategy for him. He has very deliberately never written anything or said anything or sponsored any legislation that could be later used to pin him down in any way. This is one of the qualities that gets my conspiracy nut tinfoil hat tingling; I really wonder if anyone could be that naturally blank or whether it's a Manchurian Candidate strategy with a certain Hungarian-born puppet master at the strings.

What about the infanticide legislation he advocated in the Illinois State Senate? Does that not count for something?

227 wiffersnapper  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:22:26pm

Why? Because he's a wussbag democrat!

228 I Need A Bigger Gun  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:21:54pm

re: #94 jwb7605

Falls right into the "Are they really that stupid?" question category.
My answer is consistently "I'm not sure. I don't know".

In my opinion, we are probably safer from now until inauguration day than we have been as a country since 9/11. The terrorists may be suicidal nutbags, but they're not stupid. They probably realize that any attack on U.S. soil during that time period would bring an unprecedented response from our government for several reasons, but the main one being that G. W. Bush's term as president is coming to an end; he doesn't have to worry about offending potential voters with his response because he's not running again. He'll be free to kick ass without repercussions from the electorate. If Obama gets elected, though, that feeling of safety goes right out the window as soon as he takes the oath of office.

229 ContraJihadi  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:45:25pm

re: #31 Dianna

For Hitch, that ought to be a winner.

Yes, Hitch is an old-style, "scientific" Marxist, but not a Stalinist or a Gramsci-ite. He is more like the Norman Thomas Democratic Socialists who, despite other objections to Tricky Dick, actually supported Nixon over McGovern because the North Vietnamese were Stalinists.

230 Perplexed  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:22:27pm

Obama's accent was pretty fixed by the time he was 12. The dropping of the 'g', axe instead of ask, etc all came later and was a learned response. He might have put on the accent so he came across as more authentic to those he dealt with in Chicago as a community organizer. Slipping in and out of accents comes naturally to some folks. I suspect, though that Obama knowingly does it because his oratory skills won't allow for a slip like that.

231 soccerdad  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:30:48pm

I'll say it again. McCain-Palin in an electoral landslide. Bet on it. I did. I feel even more confident now, even some of the more liberal writers are openly talking about it!

232 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:32:13pm
233 Daisy  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:38:11pm

"Why is Obama So Vapid, Hesitant, and Gutless?"

His wife really needs to take half the credit here; Obama gets the rest.

234 Daisy  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:42:55pm

re: #222 ladycatnip

Obama, Bill and Hillary all have that same talking like poor Southern Black folks thing in common - it's all very odd and discomfiting - and annoying as hell.

235 Knitwit  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:44:08pm

re: #219 vagabond trader
Tonight there are references to "mistakes" having been made on Wall Street. Is anyone else sick of hearing everything from felonies on down minimized as "mistakes"? I think the Clintons originated this. And now the au courant euphemism is "poor/bad choices."

236 Throbert McGee  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:10:39pm

re: #175 Ben Hur

Yet, watch a BBC documentary or report in which they interview an uneducated non_English speaker from the third world, or some tribe somewhere, they always translate it into the highest form of English.

They turn clicks and grunts into Shakespeare.

Not into Shakespeare -- but rather into thoroughly prosaic, textbook-y, dictionary-standard English. Which can be a perfectly defensible approach to doing translation in a news or documentary context -- as opposed to literary translations, where it's generally desirable to preserve the "register" of the source material. (Which means that flowery, poetic Elbonian is rendered in flowery English; straightforward cake-recipe Elbonian becomes cake-recipe English, and gutter-slang is translated with gutter-slang.) So it isn't necessarily motivated by some PC impulse to make illiterate mud farmers sound smarter than they are, as tempting as it is to assume that the BBC is knee-jerkingly PC.

237 thesoundofonemanlaughing  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:39:36pm

re: #1 soccerdad

I can never tell if hitchens is with us or against us. he'll write shit like this and then bash bush in the next article.

Did you mean to say, "unjustly bash Bush"?

When did he do that?

Anyway -- Obama reminds me of all the pussy managers at work, completely worthless [poops] who disdain the workers and are always keeping up their appearances. The sort of twerp store manager who doesn't know what to do when a customer complains.

P.S. Source for the Sarandon, please!

238 right_in_canada  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:43:50pm

re: #33 Ojoe

MMmmmmmmmm!
World's largest pizza?


Now that's my kind of party size ;-)

239 right_in_canada  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:50:35pm

re: #60 Ojoe

Notice that they couldn't really increase the depth of the pie that much.
Giant Whisky Bottle


I have to get back to work.

error message (google)

240 right_in_canada  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:04:03pm

re: #77 Dad O' Blondes

You can keep the "CHANGE" --

I'll take LEADERSHIP.

McCain 08.

.


I like it :-)

241 Archimedes  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:05:43pm

re: #1 soccerdad

I can never tell if hitchens is with us or against us. he'll write shit like this and then bash bush in the next article.

He's on his own side. He goes to the tune of his own drummer, which I respect.

242 Archimedes  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:30:32pm

re: #77 Dad O' Blondes

You can keep the "CHANGE" --

I'll take LEADERSHIP.

McCain 08.

.

Deserves more props. Excellent!

243 Bummer  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 7:09:39pm
244 njslim  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 8:35:47pm

Sarah Palin runs the state of Alaska. The only thing Barak Obama has
run is his mouth - and considering the number of gaffes none too
successfully

245 justadot  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 10:25:58pm

Agree with him or not, I always listen to Hitchens:

The third is that Obama does not, and perhaps even cannot, represent "change" for the very simple reason that the Democrats are a status quo party.

Yes. And for the last two years, the Democrats have shown us what the status quo means. It's no surprise that job approval of Congress is still around 20% or so.

As for the 0 himself:

Yet, having suddenly got the leadership position, he hadn't the faintest idea what to do with it or what to do about it.

There's no much holding up that empty suit, other that an Alinsky-crafted frame. Even when Obama touts his record, he highlights his experience as a political campaigner, not as a leader in the Senate known for bucking the status quo. (For better or worse, the Maverick position is already taken.)

Obama: Talking loud, saying nothing.

246 Ledger1  Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:08:38am

re: #70 FrogMarch

I agree.

Obama is somewhat like the “pet rock” fad with a dose of Marxism added for public consumption.

Pet Rocks were a 1970s fad conceived in Los Gatos, California by advertising executive Gary Dahl. The first Pet Rocks were ordinary gray pebbles bought at a builder's supply store and marketed as if they were live pets. The fad lasted about six months, ending with the Christmas season in December 1975. During its short run, the Pet Rock made Dahl a millionaire.

See: Pet rock fad

247 rolus  Tue, Sep 23, 2008 5:26:54am

Car-rackk Co-Coaine Mar-juana!

248 Evil Klown  Tue, Sep 23, 2008 2:38:10pm

From the Berlin speech, I recall "'PEOPLE OF THE WORLD." Now I use myself in in everyday conversation.

249 thesoundofonemanlaughing  Tue, Sep 23, 2008 6:18:21pm

re: #248 Evil Klown
Yeah, being president of God Damned America is just a s--t job he has to take before being Supreme Leader of the Earth.

250 Sceptic Tank  Wed, Sep 24, 2008 6:58:32am

I love left wing blasphemy. Let them devour one another and enjoy their vapidity's along the way.


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