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Open | Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:55:24 pm PDT

In the New World, happiness is enforced.

Peter Porter

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1 zombie  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:56:40pm
In the New World, happiness is enforced.

Be happy -- or you'll be sorry!

2 debutaunt  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:56:46pm

Oh hell, if I'm unhappy, I'm gonna get slapped around.

3 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:57:51pm

Holiday in Cambodia.

4 WrathofG-d  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:58:19pm
5 Gang of One  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:58:22pm

Is this happy hour?

DRINK!

6 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:58:50pm

Who knew Spider-man was so profound?

7 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:59:12pm
In the New World, happiness is enforced.

Oh, but melancholy can be so sweet....

8 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:59:18pm

is joke is joke.

9 winston06  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:59:57pm

In the Dems' world yeah. not in my world

10 BackwardsBoy  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:00:50pm

Just killin' time here, being happy until the six o'clock news comes on. Has anybody heard of the astroturf wars going mainstream? Rush didn't mention anything that I heard of, but I've only heard bits and pieces of radio today.

11 WrathofG-d  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:01:03pm

re: #8 Ben Hur

LOG! ! ! !

12 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:01:04pm

Welcome to Alpha Complex. The Computer is your friend. Trust the Computer. Happiness is Mandatory.

/I miss Paranoia, great game

13 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:01:17pm
Peter Porter

picked a pack of pickled peppers

14 WrathofG-d  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:01:53pm

re: #12 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

....what are you doing, Dave......

15 formercorpsman  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:02:15pm

Another one.

[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

16 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:02:26pm

re: #6 Ben Hur

Who knew Spider-man was so profound?

He spends a lot of time with "Mary Jane", if you know what I mean. Doors of perception cleansed, etc.

17 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:03:06pm

Chrissy is on MSNBC. Something about white people not getting tingle up their legs for Obama. Their legs are clearly racist.

18 Jed 1899  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:03:20pm

It's Happy Hour.
Put those smiles on.

19 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:03:44pm

Well. Not a good day in the markets, was it.

20 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:04:19pm
In the New World, happiness is enforced.

Thou shalt Prozac.

21 Eowyn2  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:04:36pm

re: #17 vbspurs

Chrissy is on MSNBC. Something about white people not getting tingle up their legs for Obama. Their legs are clearly racist.

I think Chris has restless leggy syndrome

22 zombie  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:05:34pm

re: #3 karmic_inquisitor

Holiday in Cambodia.

I, for one, get that reference!

23 nyc redneck  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:06:15pm

i need a piece of chocolate cake.

25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:06:51pm

re: #14 WrathofG-d

....what are you doing, Dave......

lol. The Computer has decreed any personel belonging to a secret society or with a mutation are traitors and should be destroyed as soon as possible. All player characters in Paranoia worked for the Computer, belonged to a secret society and started with a mutation. Showing knowledge of the rules of the game was treasonous and grounds for summary execution.

Tons of fun.

26 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:06:52pm

re: #6 Ben Hur

Who knew Spider-man was so profound?

That's Peter Porker, The Amazing Spider-Ham.

27 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:07:01pm

re: #21 Eowyn2

I think Chris has restless leggy syndrome

Heard Joe Namath had a solution for that.

28 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:07:50pm

re: #20 vbspurs

Thou shalt Prozac.

Have soma that.

30 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:08:13pm

THe PUMAs noticed the astroturfing story too:

[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]

31 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:08:42pm

re: #23 nyc redneck

i need a piece of chocolate cake.

Good for whatever ails you...

32 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:08:43pm

re: #22 zombie

I, for one, get that reference!

Don't forget your guns in Brixton.

33 nyc redneck  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:08:56pm

a big piece of chocolate cake no matter how bad that may look to obama and the various third world countries he's trying to organize against size portions for americans.

34 arethusa  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:09:12pm

re: #10 BackwardsBoy

Just killin' time here, being happy until the six o'clock news comes on. Has anybody heard of the astroturf wars going mainstream? Rush didn't mention anything that I heard of, but I've only heard bits and pieces of radio today.

Hugh Hewitt asked the McCain campaign about it earlier on a conference call. They encouraged reporters to look into it. *snickers*

35 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:09:30pm

re: #30 Sharmuta

THe PUMAs noticed the astroturfing story too:

[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]

They would. Hillary was the guinea pig.

36 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:09:35pm

re: #11 WrathofG-d

LOG! ! ! !

Are you high?

37 Alouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:09:35pm
38 BrianA  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:09:58pm

re: #24 MichaelAsher

POLL SHOWS WHITE OBAMA DOWN 47.7%

Penetrating Insights into the Obvious

He looks like Spock in that photoshop.

39 snopercod  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:10:40pm

Where's my Soma!

40 nyc redneck  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:10:44pm

re: #31 scottishbuzzsaw

Good for whatever ails you...

some times you just need cake.

41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:11:09pm

re: #28 Kosh's Shadow

Have soma that.

PROZIUM FOR EVERYONE!

42 zenren  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:11:17pm

McCain closes huge gap on key question for women

Since picking Sarah Palin as his running mate, John McCain has obliterated what had been a 34-percentage-point deficit in a poll of likely women voters on the question of which candidate has a “better understanding of women and what is important” to them.

The two are now effectively tied, with McCain's 44 to 42 percentage lead within the margin of error of...

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

43 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:11:36pm

God, now I feel like having cake. You people make my thighs fat.

44 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:11:58pm

Why is happy hour always two hours long?

45 rain of lead  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:12:04pm
46 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:12:18pm

re: #43 vbspurs

God, now I feel like having cake. You people make my thighs fat.

What do you mean, "you people?"
/

47 Jed 1899  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:12:32pm

re: #43 vbspurs

you earned that cellulite!

48 WrathofG-d  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:13:03pm

re: #36 Ben Hur

Nah, aint touched the stuff in a log log while.

re: #37 Alouette

Ha! You mean the one that used the humanitarian lane at the checkpoint to abuse the privilege, smuggle a weapon, then attack an Israel? No this wasn't it. I love how they claim there was some sort of abuse but can't actually pin any down "in a sexual manner.....but very offensive to Arab women".....but we aren't going to tell you what it is. The soldier probably touched her arm or looked at her face/hair. To a religious Muslim this is considered a sexual violation. The fact that they don't describe it tells me it was something stupid and not offensive. The rest of the whhhaaaaa is hilarious too.

49 Sparkizzy  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:13:14pm

This is the first time I've heard of astroturf being used in a non artificial-grass way. See, you can learn new things even in psychotic election cycles.

50 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:13:30pm

re: #44 Silhouette

Why is happy hour always two hours long?

One hour for drinkin', another for peein'.

51 BackwardsBoy  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:13:54pm

re: #34 arethusa

Yeah, I'm sure all the reporters and lawyers in Wasilla will drop what they're doing ASAP and get right on it

/snark

52 arethusa  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:14:18pm

So the Obama campaign has released a list of 42 "probing investigations" conducted by the NYT into Obama. Here's the link.

I can't decide whether my personal fave is:
20. Seeking Unity, Obama Feels Pull of Racial Divide [New York Times, 2/12/08]
or:
24. Obama’s Narrator [New York Times, 4/1/07]

Let's have a contest!

53 nyc redneck  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:14:25pm

re: #43 vbspurs

God, now I feel like having cake. You people make my thighs fat.

uh oh.
sometimes a hazelnut cappuccino (whole milk) can substitute for cake.

54 irishlas  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:14:41pm

This is on AOL

WASHINGTON (Sept. 22) - The FBI searched the residence of the son of a Democratic state lawmaker in Tennessee over the weekend looking for evidence linking the young man to the hacking of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin's personal e-mail account, two law enforcement officials told The Associated Press on Monday.
David Kernell, 20, has not returned repeated phone calls or e-mails from the AP since last week. He is the son of state Rep. Mike Kernell, a Memphis Democrat and chairman of Tennessee's House Government Operations Committee. The father declined last week to discuss the possibility his son might be involved in the case

55 Jed 1899  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:14:53pm

re: #44 Silhouette

Happy Hour was 4-7 at the KOOOOM (Garrison on Lk George)

56 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:15:20pm
57 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:15:22pm

re: #35 vbspurs

They would. Hillary was the guinea pig.

Yeah- there might be some digging they would want to do themselves for their girl.

58 ladycatnip  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:15:31pm
59 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:15:46pm

Chrissy just said: "Time to stop nickle-diming bubblegum and lipstick."

He really has to stop hanging around Woolworths.

60 BackwardsBoy  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:15:50pm

re: #44 Silhouette

Why is happy hour always two hours long?

It's becas alcohho, allcahll, booze makes yourlw tdoppsfm;l.

61 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:16:20pm

re: #58 ladycatnip

This just in: a little berg in Marin County has renamed itself "Obama".

gag.

When Obama loses, they can easliy change the name back to "Osama."

62 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:16:52pm

re: #54 irishlas

Evidently the FBI traced an IP address back to him!? Happy trails to him.

63 ladycatnip  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:17:38pm

#61 BeerDrinking...

That got me laughing.

64 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:18:40pm

re: #46 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What do you mean, "you people?"
/

What do YOU mean, "you people"?!

65 nyc redneck  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:18:42pm

re: #58 ladycatnip

This just in: a little berg in Marin County has renamed itself "Obama".

gag.

perfect example of how it's not abt. knowing, for these idiots, it's abt. believing.
they really do think he is the messiah.

66 faraway  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:18:59pm

re: #61 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

When Obama loses, they can easliy change the name back to "Osama."

They could change it to "Racists Win"

67 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:19:25pm

re: #58 ladycatnip

This just in: a little berg in Marin County has renamed itself "Obama".

gag.

Ooh, ooh! That reminds me to tell you guys that in Brazil, 6 politicians have legally changed their names to "Obama".

People thought I looked a bit like him': Brazilian politician Henrique dos Anjos has changed his name to Barack Obama

Poor guy. Still, he could've looked like Sharpton.

68 faraway  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:19:45pm

re: #62 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Evidently the FBI traced an IP address back to him!? Happy trails to him.

Is IP related to happy hour?

69 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:19:47pm

re: #58 ladycatnip

This just in: a little berg in Marin County has renamed itself "Obama".

gag.

Oh why doesn't California just toss off into the ocean? Lizards will be ok, they can swim.

70 Alouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:20:15pm

re: #58 ladycatnip

This just in: a little berg in Marin County has renamed itself "Obama".

gag.

Is that Jihad Johnny Lindh's home town?

71 turn  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:20:35pm

I was stuck at the end of the last thread (again). But I am really curious about this

"I hope they throw the book at David if found guilty, sad feeling that being the son of someone politically connected won't make that very likely. Is this the guy who called himself anonymous on the C4? hacker site? If so, doesn't he have a reputation as a hacker or can just anyone call themselves anonymous? Oh, dead thread now maybe answer next time."

I would like to know if this guy supposedly has a history as a infamous hacker or not.

73 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:20:46pm
74 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:21:19pm

re: #70 Alouette

Is that Jihad Johnny Lindh's home town?

Indeed. Remember when George Bush called them "Marin County hotubbers"? I'm going to miss that man.

75 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:21:55pm

re: #69 Walter L. Newton

Walter, I wouldn't want to p**s on anybody's parade...

76 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:21:56pm

re: #73 Ben Hur

Q&A: Bernard Lewis on Islam's Crisis

The finest intellect writing on Islam today: Bernard Lewis.

77 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:22:08pm

Hey - can't get to Jawa. Is it being attacked? They are used to Jihadi DOS attacks, but perhaps the Obamatons have been unleashed (many more zombied Obama supporters out there than zombied computers).

79 turn  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:23:01pm

re: #61 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

When Obama loses, they can easliy change the name back to "Osama."

Or what about "hopless - everything remains the same"

80 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:23:16pm

re: #78 WrathofG-d

Linky? [Link: ...]

81 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:23:24pm

The PUMAs even acknowledge Charles:

[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]

82 faraway  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:23:37pm

re: #77 karmic_inquisitor

Hey - can't get to Jawa. Is it being attacked? They are used to Jihadi DOS attacks, but perhaps the Obamatons have been unleashed (many more zombied Obama supporters out there than zombied computers).

I can get in. Maybe you are under attack?
/

83 alkmyst  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:23:57pm

Boy, am I glad that after practice I stopped on Jaffo stret to grab a sandwhich instead of walking the extra block to be at the terrorist attack by vehicle that just happened.

84 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:23:59pm

re: #61 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

When Obama loses, they can easliy change the name back to "Osama."

Or "Dhimmiton"

85 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:24:02pm

re: #81 Sharmuta

The PUMAs even acknowledge Charles:

[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]

Go PUMAs! The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

86 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:24:15pm

I still cannot believe we all knew Kernell was a suspect on Thursday, but the FBI didn't search his place until Sunday.

It is stories like these that make me laugh when troofers and their like are certain the government is involved in massive secret dealings, meticulously carried out. The government can barely tie its shoelaces, much less plan secret levy-explosions or 911.

And I keep thinking Kernell had days to delete everything, but on the other hand, maybe he is as incompetent as the feds.

87 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:24:22pm

re: #29 WrathofG-d

This "article" made me laugh. Not because of the so-called treatment of the woman involved but because of the fact that it is actually devoid of any facts at all.


Effen Euro idiots don't realize that there are no sexual curses in Hebrew.

All curses used by Israelis are in Arabic.

Example:

In Hebrew when you say, Go f*ck yourself, you actually say, Go perform a sexual act upon yourself.

The heavy shit is only in Arabic.

So I'm sure she was shocked, SHOCKED! by what she heard.

88 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:24:40pm

re: #69 Walter L. Newton

Oh why doesn't California just toss off into the ocean?

Eww.

89 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:24:40pm

re: #84 karmic_inquisitor

Or "Dhimmiton"

Isn't that Plains, Ga?

90 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:25:00pm

re: #82 faraway

I can get in. Maybe you are under attack?
/

Thanks. Just got in, but couldn't for 1/2 an hour. weird.

91 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:25:11pm

re: #70 Alouette

Is that Jihad Johnny Lindh's home town?

Good grief! I was only joking when I said they would change the name to "Osama!" The left is really beyond parody anymore.

92 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:25:16pm

bbl

93 Tamron  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:25:24pm

.
Hey Zombie, check out this MAN-POWERED HYDROFOIL WATER SCOOTER. (Click on the video)
.

94 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:25:28pm

re: #22 zombie

I, for one, get that reference!

make that two of us, but i was thinking California uber Alles. %-)

"You will jog for the master race and always wear a happy face."

95 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:25:47pm

re: #88 Occasional Reader
re: #69 Walter L. Newton

Oh why doesn't California just toss off into the ocean?

Eww.

I'm sorry.

96 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:26:18pm

re: #83 alkmyst

Boy, am I glad that after practice I stopped on Jaffo stret to grab a sandwhich instead of walking the extra block to be at the terrorist attack by vehicle that just happened.

Gulp!

I had to read that twice. Luck or someone was on your side.

97 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:26:34pm

re: #79 turn

Or what about "hopless - everything remains the same"

Hopless is how I feel - I can't afford any hops to make a new batch of beer!

98 turn  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:26:46pm

re: #69 Walter L. Newton

Oh why doesn't California just toss off into the ocean? Lizards will be ok, they can swim.

I actually love living in California Walter, much more than I would Colorado. If you could toss the left into the ocean and leave the land the way it is that would be fine with me. :.)

99 alkmyst  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:26:51pm

re: #96 Silhouette

Yeah, I'm thanking Hashem right now

100 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:27:31pm

re: #86 Silhouette

He explained exactly what he had done, and he used a known email address.

Someone said he might as well have called the FBI himself.

101 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:27:37pm

re: #99 alkmyst

Yeah, I'm thanking Hashem right now

I've nothing but respect for those citizens that stopped him from further evil.

102 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:28:11pm

FNC going to do story on the hacker in a few.

103 turn  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:28:28pm

re: #97 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Hopless is how I feel - I can't afford any hops to make a new batch of beer!

Hey, you really a home brewer?

104 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:29:17pm

Astroturf update :

Jared Liu-Klein (aka "stckyfngz") hangs up on Weekly Standard

Jared Liu-Klein, the employee of Publicis' Winner & Associates who we believe is DU member "stckyfngz" and who we believe helped in the astroturfing campaign against Sarah Palin got a phone call from the Weekely Standard. He didn't deny he was "stckyfngz" and then he hung up. Weekly Standard:

I just spoke with Liu-Klein on the phone and asked him about the matter, but he said that he would have to get back to me later. I gave him my email address and asked if he could give me a simple yes or no answer if he had ever posted a video on the Internet about Sarah Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party. Liu-Klein replied: "I'll have to get back to you as soon as I can." Then he hung up the phone. I'll post Liu-Klein's response if and when I get it.

Hmmmm.......

It seems that the interwebs connection for Jawa has been going up and down all day, so I reproduced the post here.

105 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:29:33pm

re: #91 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Good grief! I was only joking when I said they would change the name to "Osama!" The left is really beyond parody anymore

My neighbour named her new puppy "Palin", though. She's a PUMA (which accounts for being a little off the deep end).

106 faraway  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:29:43pm

re: #103 turn

Hey, you really a home brewer?

God, guns and home breweries.

107 Pullus Iulius  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:29:45pm

re: #58 ladycatnip

This just in: a little berg in Marin County has renamed itself "Obama".

gag.

There's a beautiful little town in the Shenandoah Valley that named itself Van Burenville. But after Little Van lost the election, they decided Orkney Springs sounded a lot better.

108 turn  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:30:04pm

re: #86 Silhouette

I still cannot believe we all knew Kernell was a suspect on Thursday, but the FBI didn't search his place until Sunday.

It is stories like these that make me laugh when troofers and their like are certain the government is involved in massive secret dealings, meticulously carried out. The government can barely tie its shoelaces, much less plan secret levy-explosions or 911.

And I keep thinking Kernell had days to delete everything, but on the other hand, maybe he is as incompetent as the feds.

Maybe it took them a while to get a search warrant?

109 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:30:08pm

re: #103 turn

Hey, you really a home brewer?

In theory, yes. In practice, I haven't brewed in over a year.

110 Eowyn2  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:31:07pm

re: #33 nyc redneck

a big piece of chocolate cake no matter how bad that may look to obama and the various third world countries he's trying to organize against size portions for americans.

community organizing

111 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:31:16pm

re: #107 Pullus Iulius

There's a beautiful little town in the Shenandoah Valley that named itself Van Burenville. But after Little Van lost the election, they decided Orkney Springs sounded a lot better.

If Obama wins, I am going to ask the Poway city council to rename our town to "We're so screwed."

112 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:31:19pm

re: #95 Walter L. Newton

Y'know, I live here. I was even born here. My Male is 4th generation Californian. Many of my friends are multi-generation Californians.

The problem does not lie with us, it lies with the folks the rest of the country sends us.

113 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:31:49pm

re: #109 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

In theory, yes.

Well, shoot, in theory I'm Adriana Lima's personal massage therapist.

114 alkmyst  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:32:04pm

re: #101 Silhouette


I've nothing but respect for those citizens that stopped him from further evil.

I think it was actually a soldier - but probably because the driver (a resident of East Jerusalem) drove into a crowd of mainly soldiers... I did see a whole lot of civilians, or off duty soldiers running towards it when I heard it, tho.

Seeing as I'm not a medic, and the state doesn't see fit to allow me the precaution of defending myself with a firearm, I stayed and finished my sandwich

115 turn  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:32:14pm

re: #109 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

In theory, yes. In practice, I haven't brewed in over a year.

My problem as well, takes too much time. If you could ever get to the 15-20 gal at a time payback would be there. But then again I would probably end up ruining 20 gals instead of 5.

116 jaunte  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:32:33pm

re: #104 karmic_inquisitor

Sounds like Jared has not finished consulting with his attorney(s).

117 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:32:45pm

re: #109 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

In practice, I haven't brewed in over a year.

Ever since what happened over Macho Grande?

118 faraway  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:32:47pm

If Obama wins, we will change the name of our town to "Canada". Come see us.

119 WrathofG-d  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:34:21pm

re: #80 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Reminds me of the tree people.

They claim on their website that they are going to go "test" the IDF, and peform and "action". So they go and direct their boat right at an IDF ship, in Israeli waters. Then the IDF fires warning shots, and tells them to turn around....so, of course, they scream "we are internationals" as if somehow being a pain in the ass terrorist supporter from out of country, is inherently superior than being a pain in the ass terrorist supporter from within country.

120 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:34:35pm

re: #104 karmic_inquisitor

Astroturf update :

It seems that the interwebs connection for Jawa has been going up and down all day, so I reproduced the post here.

Ace of Spades & Patterico are both iffy from where i am too..... mega traffic?

121 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:34:52pm

re: #114 alkmyst

Seeing as I'm not a medic, and the state doesn't see fit to allow me the precaution of defending myself with a firearm, I stayed and finished my sandwich

I thought all could carry there. Would you mind outlining the limitations/requirements for my curiousity?

122 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:34:56pm

John McCain wearing an apron BBQing, on the Rachael Ray show. Clinton on The View saying he "genuinely" admires both candidates.

123 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:35:01pm

re: #117 Occasional Reader

Ever since what happened over Macho Grande?

Que?

124 turn  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:35:35pm

re: #112 Dianna

Y'know, I live here. I was even born here. My Male is 4th generation Californian. Many of my friends are multi-generation Californians.

The problem does not lie with us, it lies with the folks the rest of the country sends us.

Right on, nearly the same with me. Look at a fricking voter registration map people, it's mainly LA and SF counties that are ruining the state. The heartland is solid republican.

125 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:35:48pm

re: #112 Dianna

Y'know, I live here. I was even born here. My Male is 4th generation Californian. Many of my friends are multi-generation Californians.

The problem does not lie with us, it lies with the folks the rest of the country sends us.

Yea, I know. And then we you are done with them, someone sends them to Colorado. Stop that:)

126 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:36:09pm

re: #69 Walter L. Newton

Oh why doesn't California just toss off into the ocean? Lizards will be ok, they can swim.

You seem share the same opinion as this band. Good company, I guess. If you're a nihilist.
/

127 vbspurs  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:36:16pm

re: #113 Occasional Reader

Well, shoot, in theory I'm Adriana Lima's personal massage therapist.

LOL!

On that note, I'm about to go out and buy some cake. TTFN guys!

128 Sparkizzy  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:36:33pm

The lib commenters at Slate aren't happy that Hitchens is spoiling their magazine.

129 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:36:35pm

re: #123 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Que?

I don't think you'll ever get over Macho Grande.

130 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:36:36pm

re: #120 redc1c4

Ace of Spades & Patterico are both iffy from where i am too..... mega traffic?

Mega traffic or the hipper than thou thought police in Santa Clara have fired up the speech suppression machines.

131 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:37:04pm

re: #117 Occasional Reader

Ever since what happened over Macho Grande?

I'll never get over Macho Grande.

132 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:37:06pm

re: #122 vbspurs

John McCain wearing an apron BBQing, on the Rachael Ray show. Clinton on The View saying he "genuinely" admires both candidates.

I know he's got the hots for Palin.

133 faraway  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:37:16pm

My daughter told me today that she has noticed many McCain signs in yards, but no Obama signs.

I told her liberals don't own homes.

134 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:37:39pm

re: #126 Slumbering Behemoth

You seem share the same opinion as this band. Good company, I guess. If you're a nihilist.
/

"He doesn't care. He's a nihilist."
"It must be exhausting."
/The Big Lebowski

135 turn  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:37:53pm

BBT, Time to go walk the lab along CALIFORNIA's American River!

/sorry Walter, couldn't resist.

136 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:38:02pm

re: #132 Walter L. Newton

I know he's got the hots for Palin.

Shorter list: women Bill doesn't have the hots for.

137 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:38:14pm

re: #131 Kosh's Shadow

I'll never get over Macho Grande.

I'm glad someone understands me.

138 Alaska Kim  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:38:26pm

Hi y'all! Have any of you guys used Chantix for quitting smoking?

139 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:38:27pm

re: #131 Kosh's Shadow

I'll never get over Macho Grande.

Ted Striker: My orders came through. My squadron ships out tomorrow. We're bombing the storage depots at Daiquiri at 1800 hours. We're coming in from the north, below their radar.
Elaine Dickinson: When will you be back?
Ted Striker: I can't tell you that. It's classified.

140 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:38:57pm

re: #129 Occasional Reader

I don't think you'll ever get over Macho Grande.

I'm ashamed to say that I never saw Airplane II.

141 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:39:20pm

re: #133 faraway

My daughter told me today that she has noticed many McCain signs in yards, but no Obama signs.

I told her liberals don't own homes.

Maybe it is like the thing where LLL don't "own" pets. Instead they have companion animals.

They have companion domiciles.

142 Typicalwhitey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:39:22pm

Anyone seen the new NRA ads that are out?
Good stuff.

143 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:39:38pm

re: #112 Dianna

The problem does not lie with us, it lies with the folks the rest of the country sends us.

When I was a wee one back in the '70s, one of the more popular bumper-stickers I often saw was "Welcome to California, now go home".

I'd like to see that one make a come back, but I guess it would be deemed racist now.

144 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:39:47pm

re: #140 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm ashamed to say that I never saw Airplane II.

Get out.

145 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:39:56pm

re: #135 turn

BBT, Time to go walk the lab along CALIFORNIA's American River! /sorry Walter, couldn't resist.

All I have to do is get into the car, a one hour trip west of here, and I'll take a pee in AMERICA's River. Tell the lab not to drink the water.

/

146 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:40:10pm

re: #125 Walter L. Newton

Turn about is fair play!*

*Or foreplay. Given the use of the word "Californication", I reserve the right to use foreplay in context.

147 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:40:16pm

Update from the campaign trail. Obama has just commented on the oppressed BMW that struck down 15 pedestrians in Jerusalem today:


"I call on BMWs to restrain themselves from striking pedestrians and I call on Jewish pedestrians to not further impede the momentum of German Engineering."

/

148 3 wood  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:40:34pm

In other news, the market dropped like a rock today because of a very poorly thought through "short sale ban" by the government. Options traders can still create short sales, for instance, which is a loop hole in the the ban, which made it a rigged game. So, your normal big buyers of these stocks walked away from the market and will not put their money in play until the game is no longer rigged.

Best way to fix this glitch is reinstitute the "uptick rule" enforce it, and get rid of the ban. You will see the market jump 400 to 500 points if that is done.

149 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:41:01pm

re: #136 Silhouette

Shorter list: women Bill doesn't have the hots for.

Here you go.

150 vagabond trader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:41:37pm

re: #58 ladycatnip

We've renamed something in our house "Obama" but I can't say in mixed company.

151 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:41:48pm

re: #130 karmic_inquisitor

Why Santa Clara? I'm confused. Ace is on mu.nu - which I think isn't US based?

152 3 wood  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:41:53pm

Also, oil jumped today in the spot market due to timing, but the futures contract is not up this much.

Look for a pull back in oil prices tomorrow.

153 stuiec  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:42:02pm

re: #72 Eowyn2

"hey honey, whatcha hidin under that burka?"

I like loose folds of shapeless cloth
Just like a candle to my moth
When a girl walks by in a lumpy sack
And I can't tell front from back
I get sprung!

154 zombie  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:42:04pm

re: #94 redc1c4

make that two of us, but i was thinking California uber Alles. %-)

"You will jog for the master race and always wear a happy face."

That's exactly what I was thinking of as well!

There was a conspiracy theory running around LGF a couple years back that I was Jello Biafra or some other member of the Dead Kennedys, because I seemed to know a little too much about the band. Had to really squelch that one!

155 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:42:30pm

re: #143 Slumbering Behemoth

When
I was a wee one back in the '70s, one of the more popular
bumper-stickers I often saw was "Welcome to California, now go home".

I'd like to see that one make a come back, but I guess it would be deemed racist now.

I've seen a few my way: "Virginia is for lovers, New Jersey is for Masocists"

156 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:42:34pm

re: #147 karmic_inquisitor

It was a BMW? More of that "poverty that causes terrorism", I see.

157 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:42:36pm

re: #150 vagabond trader

We've renamed something in our house "Obama" but I can't say in mixed company.

We're not mixed, just stirred...now you can tell us...

158 Eowyn2  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:42:46pm

re: #83 alkmyst

We're glad too.

159 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:43:06pm

re: #138 Alaska Kim

Hi y'all! Have any of you guys used Chantix for quitting smoking?

Nope. I used respiratory distress. Worked like a charm!

160 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:43:21pm

re: #150 vagabond trader

We've renamed something in our house "Obama" but I can't say in mixed company.

My nickname for the US if Barry wins can't be said in polite company. Lets just say it rhymes with "Scucking Fewed."

161 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:43:23pm

re: #149 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm disappointed in you. I expected a picture of Hillary. ;-)

162 vagabond trader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:43:26pm

re: #132 Walter L. Newton

Sarah would shoot the Cuban out of his crooked mouth.

163 Alaska Kim  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:43:56pm

re: #159 Dianna

Nope. I used respiratory distress. Worked like a charm!

That seemed to work for my dad too!

164 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:44:50pm

re: #149 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Here you go.

I just knew I was gonna' be looking at a photograph of Helen Thomas.

165 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:44:54pm

re: #154 zombie

That's exactly what I was thinking of as well!

There was a conspiracy theory running around LGF a couple years back that I was Jello Biafra or some other member of the Dead Kennedys, because I seemed to know a little too much about the band. Had to really squelch that one!

I work with someone who DOES (or did) know Jello Biafra, and said he had played bass in the Dead Kennedys when their regular player needed a break.
The guy is a total moonbat, posts on Kos, etc. You can tell his car - it has the Edwards sticker, the one with the last date Bush will be in office, and probably an 0bama one now.

166 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:45:25pm

re: #154 zombie

That's exactly what I was thinking of as well!

There was a conspiracy theory running around LGF a couple years back that I was Jello Biafra or some other member of the Dead Kennedys, because I seemed to know a little too much about the band. Had to really squelch that one!

I'd have loved it if you were!

167 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:45:34pm

re: #153 stuiec

I like loose folds of shapeless cloth
Just like a candle to my moth
When a girl walks by in a lumpy sack
And I can't tell front from back
I get sprung!

"Baby Got Nakba"?

168 vagabond trader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:45:47pm

re: #138 Alaska Kim

A fella I do business with, heavy smoker, used it almost two years ago and he has not smoked since.

169 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:46:44pm

re: #163 Alaska Kim

That seemed to work for my dad too!

Yeah, it only took three life-threatening incidents. Granted, the first was pneumonia, but still.

170 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:47:10pm

re: #151 Dianna

Why Santa Clara? I'm confused. Ace is on mu.nu - which I think isn't US based?

I guess I singled out Santa Clara out as the HQ for the"hipper than thou thought police" because it is the epicenter of the Silicon Valley, which is filled with ego-drunken geeks who see no problem with destroying liberal ideas in order to impose them on others as a "progressive order". Coulda been Palo Alto or Cupertino.

171 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:47:13pm

Mr. Silhouette and Mother both used Chantix. Mr. Silhouette said it did great at stopping his urges to smoke. The problem was that he really didn't want to be a non-smoker, and went back. Mother, on the other hand, just quit in 3 weeks after smoking 2 packs a day for almost 50 years. She is approaching one year smoke-free.

172 Alaska Kim  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:47:20pm

re: #168 vagabond trader

A fella I do business with, heavy smoker, used it almost two years ago and he has not smoked since.

That's good to hear.

173 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:47:29pm

re: #159 Dianna

Nope. I used respiratory distress. Worked like a charm!

Had that diagnosed for my last 3 years in the Marines, all they gave me was Albuterol and I coughed 8 months out of the year, said I was allergic to something in NC. I get out and move to CA, same deal. Civilian doctor says it asthma and I got medicine that worked. Barely cough at all now.

174 pegcity  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:47:57pm

re: #148 3 wood

In other news, the market dropped like a rock today because of a very poorly thought through "short sale ban" by the government. Options traders can still create short sales, for instance, which is a loop hole in the the ban, which made it a rigged game. So, your normal big buyers of these stocks walked away from the market and will not put their money in play until the game is no longer rigged.

Best way to fix this glitch is reinstitute the "uptick rule" enforce it, and get rid of the ban. You will see the market jump 400 to 500 points if that is done.

if i have to get a license dealing with options or futures which would you recommend getting first?

175 Eowyn2  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:47:58pm

re: #125 Walter L. Newton

Yea, I know. And then we you are done with them, someone sends them to Colorado. Stop that:)

and Montana

176 stymie  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:48:18pm

It's hard to be happy when....

Freddie's Dead!

177 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:48:20pm

re: #148 3 wood

Best way to fix this glitch is reinstitute the "uptick rule"

Which is...?

178 Alaska Kim  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:48:28pm

re: #169 Dianna

Yeah, it only took three life-threatening incidents. Granted, the first was pneumonia, but still.

What life-threatening incidents? If you don't mind my asking....

179 vagabond trader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:48:55pm

re: #172 Alaska Kim

He doesn't appear to have gained any significant weight, but his sense of humor is not quite as sharp. Not blaming the Chantix, but, hey....

180 Eowyn2  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:49:16pm

re: #153 stuiec

I like loose folds of shapeless cloth
Just like a candle to my moth
When a girl walks by in a lumpy sack
And I can't tell front from back
I get sprung!

you owe me a new keyboard.

181 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:49:17pm

re: #170 karmic_inquisitor

Sometime, you and I need to have a chat!

For instance, I'll invite you to dinner at our place, in San Jose, and introduce you to the people who aren't like that. Which happens to be a very substantial group.

Remember: Google (biggest hypocrites on the web) are based in San Francisco.

182 faraway  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:49:21pm

Bad Business Ideas File: AmishOnline.com

183 alkmyst  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:49:46pm

re: #121 Silhouette

Well, mainly they usually only give licenses to people who live in "hot zones" meaning closer to arab neighborhoods, or out in the settlements for example...

I should have been able to get one thru my business without trouble, except for that once 3 some years ago while I was in the states someone did something stupid involving a plant at my apartment and now I have a police file because of it. Kindof annoying really, now I have to be that much more prepared hand to hand...

184 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:49:47pm

re: #159 Dianna

Nope. I used respiratory distress. Worked like a charm!

Love it. I just stopped smoking 3 weeks ago. I didn't use anything. Just stopped. Doctor wanted me to help out my BP before the hernia operation.

I was a 2 plus pack a day, over 40 years. Love it, probably still would, but when I decide to stop something, I just do.

One thing I discovered is that I DO NOT try to remove the trigger points in my life. I LOVED to smoke with a diet drink and sitting at the computer, on LGF, hours on end. Well, I decided not to stop that, otherwise it would just be harder on myself.

Otherwise, those triggers, if you take them away, will just hid, waiting for you during a weak time. You have to learn to just keep doing what you like to do, minus the butts.

That's what's working for me.

185 SummerSong  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:50:24pm

re: #124 turn


Orange County, CA is "America's most Republican county".

[Link: www.ocgop.org...]

Don't hate us because we're beautiful. :)

186 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:50:35pm

re: #173 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Had that diagnosed for my last 3 years in the Marines, all they gave me was Albuterol and I coughed 8 months out of the year, said I was allergic to something in NC. I get out and move to CA, same deal. Civilian doctor says it asthma and I got medicine that worked. Barely cough at all now.

Are you using combivent? I happen to really prefer it to plain Alburterol (aka "shakiness in a can").

187 redc1c4  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:50:53pm

re: #154 zombie

That's exactly what I was thinking of as well!

There was a conspiracy theory running around LGF a couple years back that I was Jello Biafra or some other member of the Dead Kennedys, because I seemed to know a little too much about the band. Had to really squelch that one!

you mean you're not? %-)

sidebar: my friend's band, GFI, is opening for Agent Orange & Fear at the SD HOB this coming sunday.....

188 littleO  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:51:05pm

There is a headline on Drudge about who is at fault (greater fault) concerning the financial meltdown.
It's from Bloomberg. com.With commentary by Kevin Hassett.
Many will find it somewhat illuminating. Of course, the real problem goes back much further.

189 stuiec  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:51:09pm

re: #167 Occasional Reader

re: #180 Eowyn2

Beware -- or I may write the rest of the lyrics.

Riyadh face with a Baghdad booty

190 JeremiahRight  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:51:25pm

re: #126 Slumbering Behemoth

You seem share the same opinion as this band. Good company, I guess. If you're a nihilist.
/

Awesome! One of my all time favorites. For those who dont know the words:

Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this

Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless f*cking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any f*cking time. Any f*cking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and
Fret for your car.

It's a
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless f*cking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any f*cking time. Any f*cking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.

Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will cuz
I sure could use a vacation from this

Silly shit, stupid shit...

One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

Learn to swim.

Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be.

Learn to swim.

F*ck L Ron Hubbard and
F*ck all his clones.
F*ck all those gun-toting
Hip gangster wannabes.

Learn to swim.

F*ck retro anything.
F*ck your tattoos.
F*ck all you junkies and
F*ck your short memory.

Learn to swim.

F*ck smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas.
F*ck these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses.

Learn to swim.

Cuz I'm praying for rain
And I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.
I wanna watch it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.

Time to bring it down again.
Don't just call me pessimist.
Try and read between the lines.

I can't imagine why you wouldn't
Welcome any change, my friend.

I wanna see it all come down.
suck it down.
flush it down.

191 Eowyn2  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:51:39pm

re: #171 Silhouette

Mr. Silhouette and Mother both used Chantix. Mr. Silhouette said it did great at stopping his urges to smoke. The problem was that he really didn't want to be a non-smoker, and went back. Mother, on the other hand, just quit in 3 weeks after smoking 2 packs a day for almost 50 years. She is approaching one year smoke-free.

Wish me luck, I start the journey on Wednesday. I turn 50 tomorrow so I am just going to wait until wednesday. Lots of alcohol, tobacco and firearms tomorrow. Okay, no weapons. bowling balls.

192 loppyd  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:52:08pm

Good Afternoon, Lizard Nation.

Via Hot Air

Which convention drew independents?
Voters not yet committed to either candidate were 12% more engaged by TV coverage of the GOP convention than the Democratic convention, according to an analysis released Monday by Nielsen IAG. …
John McCain’s acceptance speech on September 4 drew the most attentive audience of uncommitted viewers, Nielsen reported. Telecasts of Barack Obama’s and Sarah Palin’s acceptance speeches on August 28 and September 3, respectively, tied in second place as the second most engaging telecasts among uncommitted viewers.
Overall, viewers were more engaged by the telecasts of the RNC vs. the DNC. Registered voters were 10% more engaged by the RNC than the DNC, while likely voters were 12% more engaged in RNC viewing.

193 Alaska Kim  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:53:05pm

re: #184 Walter L. Newton

Love
it. I just stopped smoking 3 weeks ago. I didn't use anything. Just
stopped. Doctor wanted me to help out my BP before the hernia
operation.

I was a 2 plus pack a day, over 40 years. Love it, probably still would, but when I decide to stop something, I just do.

One
thing I discovered is that I DO NOT try to remove the trigger points in
my life. I LOVED to smoke with a diet drink and sitting at the
computer, on LGF, hours on end. Well, I decided not to stop that,
otherwise it would just be harder on myself.

Otherwise, those
triggers, if you take them away, will just hid, waiting for you during
a weak time. You have to learn to just keep doing what you like to do,
minus the butts.

That's what's working for me.

It's a vicious circle! I have quit smoking using the patch, the patch was wonderful. but that was before my BP went through the roof, and now i'm on BP meds. So if i use the patch, my BP goes nuts, but it is really the only thing that has worked for me.

194 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:53:12pm

re: #165 Kosh's Shadow

I work with someone who DOES (or did) know Jello Biafra, and said he had played bass in the Dead Kennedys when their regular player needed a break.
The guy is a total moonbat, posts on Kos, etc. You can tell his car - it has the Edwards sticker, the one with the last date Bush will be in office, and probably an 0bama one now.

Sad.

I saw the DKs as anti fascist back in the 80s.

Punk back then railed on hippies. I went to a Black Flag concert in San Luis Obispo where Rollins showed up in dreadlocks and the skin heads started yelling "hippie!" at him. Turned into a riot. Cops with riot gear and everything. IIRC it was 1985.

195 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:53:16pm

re: #191 Eowyn2

Wish me luck, I start the journey on Wednesday. I turn 50 tomorrow so I am just going to wait until wednesday. Lots of alcohol, tobacco and firearms tomorrow. Okay, no weapons. bowling balls.

Good luck, Eowyn, and may you have success. Perhaps it's time for me to quit, too, after 36 years...and Happy Birthday!

196 Windhorse  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:53:19pm

Has anyone seen this?

A Democrat friend of mine sent this to me and is in a tizzy about it....
This clause seems like the only way to keep this out of court for years and years while everyone and their brother whines about it. (I have a deadline to meet and cannot pause to fully contemplate this.... has this already been discussed?

197 Alaska Kim  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:54:02pm

re: #191 Eowyn2

Good luck!

198 neocon hippie  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:54:03pm

re: #58 ladycatnip

After all, this is the locale of "Hippie From Olema", a parody of "Okie from Muskogee".

While "Obama" is a tiny town, it is the gateway from the more populated areas of Marin, and hence from the entire Bay Area, to the beautiful Point Reyes National Seashore, so the sign will get a lot of viewings.

199 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:54:10pm

re: #183 alkmyst

Thanks.

And your shorthand about the plant was hilarious. It made it sound like they assaulted a fern.

200 livefreeor die  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:54:24pm

re: #34 arethusa

Hugh Hewitt asked the McCain campaign about it earlier on a conference call. They encouraged reporters to look into it. *snickers*

I e-mailed Greta Van Susteren's blog at Foxnews. We need to bombard media people who might actually pay attention to this and start talking about it.

201 cygnus  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:54:26pm

re: #39 snopercod

Where's my Soma!

A gramme is better than a damn.

202 UFO TOFU  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:54:30pm

re: #171 Silhouette
Is that prescription?

/Smoker in the smoggiest area of California

203 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:54:37pm

re: #186 Dianna

Are you using combivent? I happen to really prefer it to plain Alburterol (aka "shakiness in a can").

Just got the Albuterol for a rescue inhaler now. Was on seravent for a little while due to high inflamation, now I just get advair during my really bad seasons.

204 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:55:07pm

re: #194 karmic_inquisitor

Sad.

I saw the DKs as anti fascist back in the 80s.

Punk
back then railed on hippies. I went to a Black Flag concert in San Luis
Obispo where Rollins showed up in dreadlocks and the skin heads started
yelling "hippie!" at him. Turned into a riot. Cops with riot gear and
everything. IIRC it was 1985.

All the punks are going to scream "Yippie!"
It's The Thing That Only Eats Hippies!
-Dead Milkmen

205 FrogMarch  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:55:08pm

re: #45 rain of lead

Happy Happy Joy Joy

Stinkyweaselteets sings "I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs".

206 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:55:47pm

re: #178 Alaska Kim

What life-threatening incidents? If you don't mind my asking....

In February of 1999, I developed a very severe case of pneumonia. I'd never been that heavy a smoker, and I'd never really had any problem with it, so after I recovered, I smoked again.

In 2007, what started as an allergy attack became bronchitis, and then I had a bronchial spasm which sent me to the ER.

I should have quit that time, because (frankly) ever since, if I smoked more than 5 cigarettes in a day (which I did when I was stressed, and I get stressed) I coughed for days afterwards.

Last Tuesday, while fighting bronchitis, I had another bronchial spasm - the worst I've ever had. Again, a visit to the ER.

This time, since I haven't had a cigarette in two weeks and counting, I'm quitting and staying quit.

All my life, if I get upset, I have gotten short of breath. It's not asthma, it's all psychological. I'm interested in seeing how that works out with not smoking.

207 lifeofthemind  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:55:55pm

Good Day, Good Afternoon, Good Evening

I've never seen a man get through a day so fast.
- fm: Cat Ballou

208 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:56:28pm

re: #132 Walter L. Newton

I know he's got the hots for Palin.

I don't think so, her ankles are too thin.

209 alkmyst  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:57:38pm

re: #158 Eowyn2

Much appreciated - it was funny, as I was walking past the block it happened on I overheard a group of people speaking English, pointed in the direction they came from and asked if that was where it happened, and they said yeah, if I wanted to go check it out. I told them I wasn't a medic, to which one guy responded, "not a voyeur?" I simply said to him that I've seen enough of this shit, and didn't want to get in the way of the professionals.

210 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:57:43pm

re: #140 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm ashamed to say that I never saw Airplane II.

I'm ashamed to say that I did.

211 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:58:03pm

re: #191 Eowyn2

Lots of luck, Winny. I have never smoked so I can't appreciate the journey, but I've seen others make it so I know you can.

212 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:58:27pm

re: #191 Eowyn2

Very good luck to you!

213 Alaska Kim  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:58:42pm

re: #206 Dianna

Two weeks without one? That's great! I haven't had one since last night. It is tough. But I'm 42, and if i don't quit now, I don't think I ever will. The hard part is that my husband smokes, and won't even THINK of quitting.

214 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:58:55pm
215 stuiec  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:58:59pm

re: #191 Eowyn2

Wish me luck, I start the journey on Wednesday. I turn 50 tomorrow so I am just going to wait until wednesday. Lots of alcohol, tobacco and firearms tomorrow. Okay, no weapons. bowling balls.

Turning fifty, eh?

Before you quit smoking, schedule and have your sigmoidoscopy.

Then tell yourself when you quit smoking the next day that no tobacco means less likelihood of having another sigmoidoscopy sooner (due to a cancer scare). Should be a good additional motivator.

216 alkmyst  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:59:06pm

re: #199 Silhouette

From the phone call I got when that happened, it sounded to me like they brought in 4 too many guys with guns drawn to assault the fern :-)

217 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:59:09pm

Good night, Lizards

218 debutaunt  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:59:23pm

re: #111 karmic_inquisitor

If Obama wins, I am going to ask the Poway city council to rename our town to "We're so screwed."

Is it pronounced Po-way or Pow-way?

219 faraway  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:59:47pm

I have tried to stop reading LGF.

Is there a patch or some medication that I can take?

I have tried vodka and pain killers, but they don't work.

220 rain of lead  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:59:57pm

re: #205 FrogMarch

Stinkyweaselteets sings "I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs".

"I don't think your happy enough"
I'll teach you to be happy"

221 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:00:02pm

re: #181 Dianna

Sometime, you and I need to have a chat!

For instance, I'll invite you to dinner at our place, in San Jose, and introduce you to the people who aren't like that. Which happens to be a very substantial group.

Remember: Google (biggest hypocrites on the web) are based in San Francisco.

I was raised in San Mateo and go up to the Bay Area for business fairly regularly. It seems like a mass of uniform minded wanabees to me. I come across "subversives" from time to time who have lived in the area for a long time and have become conservative. But the dominant flow is conforming noobies fitting in by being the loudest at the torch parades of enthusiasm for the latest "progressive" rant/cause.

One thing did strike me on a recent trip - went up to the UCSC campus. Complete transformation. Not just the new buildings, but the students. They don't look like the Che and Mao wanabes anymore. Some looked like they were there to get a *gasp* education. I was stunned - the place used to look like a living history town a la Williamsburg, but recreating Hait-Ashbury.

222 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:00:12pm

re: #202 UFO TOFU

Is that prescription?

/Smoker in the smoggiest area of California

I believe so.

223 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:00:26pm

Southlake Hummer vandal: "I confess, I'm a moonbat!"

Warrant: Southlake Hummer vandalism suspect motivated by environmental concerns, admitted to other crimes

He's a dues-paying member of the Sierra Club and Greenpeace.

We just got our hands on a copy of the five-page arrest warrant for James Andrew Jeppe in the Southlake Hummer vandalism case. The warrant sheds new light on Mr. Jeppe's motive and indicates the Sept. 5 incident was not his first time leaving his mark on one of the sport utility vehicles.

Mr. Jeppe, 72, turned himself in to authorities Friday on charges he vandalized a high school student's Hummer in the Carroll Senior High School parking lot. The incident was recorded on the Hummer's motion-activated surveillance cameras...

224 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:00:40pm

re: #190 JeremiahRight

Bit of trivia for ya: "Arizona Bay" was the name of Bill Hicks' band as well as one of his comedy albums.

Tool borrows heavily from Hicks' stand-up routines.

225 lifeofthemind  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:00:55pm

re: #218 debutaunt

Is it pronounced Po-way or Pow-way?

If Obama gets in they'd have to call it Poor-way.

226 3 wood  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:01:09pm

re: #174 pegcity

if i have to get a license dealing with options or futures which would you recommend getting first?

Options.

227 cygnus  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:01:15pm

re: #45 rain of lead

Happy Happy Joy Joy

Don't ever do that again. Arrrrrrrrrghhhh!

228 sparrowlake  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:01:30pm

re: #213 Alaska Kim

Two weeks without one? That's great! I haven't had one since last night. It is tough. But I'm 42, and if i don't quit now, I don't think I ever will. The hard part is that my husband smokes, and won't even THINK of quitting.

Get rid of him. LOL.

229 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:01:32pm

re: #218 debutaunt

Is it pronounced Po-way or Pow-way?

POW-way.

230 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:01:46pm

re: #193 Alaska Kim

It's a vicious circle! I have quit smoking using the patch, the patch was wonderful. but that was before my BP went through the roof, and now i'm on BP meds. So if i use the patch, my BP goes nuts, but it is really the only thing that has worked for me.


Well my suggestion is to run at least a mile a day..
By weeks end you'll either quit smoking or die..
but at least you won't ever smoke again..
/teasing you Kim :)

231 MacGregor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:01:46pm
In the New World, happiness is enforced.

The floggings will continue until morale improves!

232 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:01:48pm

re: #219 faraway

I have tried to stop reading LGF.

Is there a patch or some medication that I can take?

I have tried vodka and pain killers, but they don't work.

You can try LOLCATS, but it just isn't the same.

233 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:01:54pm

re: #185 SummerSong

Orange County, CA is "America's most Republican county".

[Link: www.ocgop.org...]

Don't hate us because we're beautiful. :)

That's because all the illegals in San Diego vote Dem.

234 Alaska Kim  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:02:09pm

re: #228 sparrowlake

Get rid of him. LOL.

He's next!

235 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:02:17pm

re: #218 debutaunt

Is it pronounced Po-way or Pow-way?

It's the latter. The city was devastated in the So Cal fires a couple of years ago.

236 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:02:27pm

re: #231 MacGregor

The floggings will continue until morale improves!

Easiest way to improve the group's morale is dispose of all the unhappy people.

237 alkmyst  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:02:32pm

re: #191 Eowyn2

I was thinking about quitting smoking the other day, then I watched Dennis Leary for an hour and a half.

I'll be back in about 5 minutes...

238 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:02:38pm

re: #218 debutaunt

Is it pronounced Po-way or Pow-way?

Pow-way.

But there is a very small set of high brows that go with Po wee (the name has aboriginal roots). They give up when locals look at them funny. We keep our moonbats on a short leash.

239 debutaunt  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:02:46pm

re: #131 Kosh's Shadow

I'll never get over Macho Grande.

Is that a 'manly' coffee drink at Starbucks?

240 rain of lead  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:02:58pm

re: #220 rain of lead

"I don't think your happy enough"
I'll teach you to be happy"

re: #205 FrogMarch

Stinkyweaselteets sings "I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs".


"I told you I'd shoot but you didn't belive me"
"Why didn't you believe me?!"

241 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:03:39pm

re: #213 Alaska Kim

Two weeks without one? That's great! I haven't had one since last night. It is tough. But I'm 42, and if i don't quit now, I don't think I ever will. The hard part is that my husband smokes, and won't even THINK of quitting.

I don't know what to say about the husband part of it. My Male likes a cigar, but he's promised to not have any for a while. I don't think that's necessary; if I can't get over the craving, I'll talk to my doctor.

One thing that helps a bit? Pom - the pomegranate stuff. For some reason, it whacks the craving down a bit. I have no idea why; I usually hate the stuff.

242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:03:52pm

re: #233 CyanSnowHawk

That's because all the illegals in San Diego vote Dem.

Well thats just because the Dems give them stuff and bus them to the polls.

243 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:03:59pm
244 Alaska Kim  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:04:15pm

re: #230 HoosierHoops

Good tip!
That's another reason I want to quit. I want to start running. I walk 2 miles a day, but I need something more.
And holy crap! Smokes are expensive up here. $6 a pack.

245 3 wood  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:05:19pm

re: #177 Occasional Reader

re: #148 3 wood

Best way to fix this glitch is reinstitute the "uptick rule"

Which is...?

Sorry to be so pedantic.

The uptick rule is where you can not close out a short sale position (buy the stock back from the market) until the price ticks up wards in the market.

That keeps unfettered bashing of stocks with false rumors and such from happening to force the stock price down. About 2 years ago the SEC discontinued the uptick rule, and the market has gotten a lot more volatile every since.

A lot of stocks are very underpriced right now, but the buyers are going to sit on the sidelines until the rules get straightened out.

If I was in charge of the SEC I'd have this fixed in 48 hours. It's so frustrating to sit here and watch these morons screw around with this.

They've done the heavy work already, the rest if it is just details.

246 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:05:45pm

re: #223 Ward Cleaver

Southlake Hummer vandal: "I confess, I'm a moonbat!"

Warrant: Southlake Hummer vandalism suspect motivated by environmental concerns, admitted to other crimes

He's a dues-paying member of the Sierra Club and Greenpeace.

Hell, those assholes in the UK caused like $50k in damages to a powerplant and got off arguing they did it because of global warming. This asshole could walk.

247 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:05:53pm

re: #221 karmic_inquisitor

Well, next time we throw a gathering, I'll make sure you get an invitation!

You'll like it. Barflies and lizards united, good food, and the conversation is great.

248 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:06:06pm

re: #243 buzzsawmonkey

The notion that one's own strongly-held beliefs entitle one to vandalize the property of others or otherwise interfere in their lives is disturbingly prevalent, and growing more so.

He said he doesn't like their carbon footprint. WAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

When first confronted by the cops, he told them he must have a twin.

Yeah right.

249 Alaska Kim  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:06:09pm

re: #241 Dianna

I don't know what to say about the husband
part of it. My Male likes a cigar, but he's promised to not have any
for a while. I don't think that's necessary; if I can't get over the
craving, I'll talk to my doctor.

One thing that helps a bit?
Pom - the pomegranate stuff. For some reason, it whacks the craving
down a bit. I have no idea why; I usually hate the stuff.

Pom? I love that stuff. Expensive but good.

250 lifeofthemind  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:06:10pm

Rally at the UN today. Mostly HS students, some College students, about 400 Canadians, Eh?

251 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:06:31pm

re: #223 Ward Cleaver

Southlake Hummer vandal: "I confess, I'm a moonbat!"

Warrant: Southlake Hummer vandalism suspect motivated by environmental concerns, admitted to other crimes

He's a dues-paying member of the Sierra Club and Greenpeace.

He's old enough to know better!

252 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:06:46pm

re: #244 Alaska Kim

And holy crap! Smokes are expensive up here. $6 a pack.

It hurts Mr. Silhouette to pay $4-$5 or whatever a pack, when he can see tobacco growing in the field beside the store.

SHouldn't it be cheaper here? ;-)

253 rain of lead  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:06:56pm

re: #227 cygnus

Don't ever do that again. Arrrrrrrrrghhhh!

Bwahaahaahaahaahaa!

254 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:07:04pm

re: #243 buzzsawmonkey

The notion that one's own strongly-held beliefs entitle one to vandalize the property of others or otherwise interfere in their lives is disturbingly prevalent, and growing more so.

My strongly held beliefs entail beating anyone who vandalizes my property or interferes with my life. Think it will work?

255 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:07:34pm
256 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:07:42pm

re: #218 debutaunt

Is it pronounced Po-way or Pow-way?

Pow-way.

I'm sitting there right now, having not gone to work today as my Son and I both have mild fevers.

257 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:07:52pm

re: #237 alkmyst

I was thinking about quitting smoking the other day, then I watched Dennis Leary for an hour and a half.

I'll be back in about 5 minutes...

Dennis Leary?

258 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:07:53pm

re: #254 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My strongly held beliefs entail beating anyone who vandalizes my property or interferes with my life. Think it will work?

Maybe if you get me on your jury.

(Except I will never be on a jury, it appears)

259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:08:02pm

re: #249 Alaska Kim

Pom? I love that stuff. Expensive but good.

I thought that said Porn the first time I read it.

260 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:08:02pm

Haven't found a report on the Amadmanonjihad protests in the US MSM, but here's one in the Jerusalem Post

Interspersed with Israeli flags and placards calling for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to "take your hate back to hell" were a fluttering of blue McCain-Palin campaign signs, along with more strident handmade ones sticking out above the crowd, including one that read: "Prevent a nuclear Iranian Holocaust on Israel, vote McCaine-Palin [sic]."

Another man standing at the rear of the crowd echoed the point as he silently held a scrawled, accusatory placard: "Dems hate Sarah Palin more than they hate the Islamofascists."

261 lifeofthemind  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:08:04pm

re: #249 Alaska Kim

Pom? I love that stuff. Expensive but good.

The mango mix tastes better, the 100% is an acquired taste.

262 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:08:15pm
263 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:08:35pm

re: #243 buzzsawmonkey

The notion that one's own strongly-held beliefs entitle one to vandalize the property of others or otherwise interfere in their lives is disturbingly prevalent, and growing more so.

I wonder how much it'll cost to repair that paint job.

264 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:08:39pm

re: #239 debutaunt

Is that a 'manly' coffee drink at Starbucks?

It is part of one of the few funny scenes in Airplane II

265 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:09:11pm

re: #260 Kosh's Shadow

Dems hate Sarah Palin more than they hate the Islamofascists."

Ain't it the ever-loving truth.

266 Alouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:09:14pm

re: #250 lifeofthemind

Rally at the UN today. Mostly HS students, some College students, about 400 Canadians, Eh?

How did you know they were Canadians? Because of their split heads?

267 loppyd  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:09:16pm

re: #250 lifeofthemind

Rally at the UN today. Mostly HS students, some College students, about 400 Canadians, Eh?

Thousands attend NYC anti-Iran rally

Still can't believe Hillary's high school "if she's going I'm not going" antics.

SUCH a beyatch.

268 lifeofthemind  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:09:26pm

re: #246 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Hell, those assholes in the UK caused like $50k in damages to a powerplant and got off arguing they did it because of global warming. This asshole could walk.

No American Judge has fallen for an argument that dumb. Twinkies yes, globaloney, no.

269 JeremiahRight  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:09:34pm

re: #224 Slumbering Behemoth

Bit of trivia for ya: "Arizona Bay" was the name of Bill Hicks' band as well as one of his comedy albums.

Tool borrows heavily from Hicks' stand-up routines.

Nice. Not really familiar with him other than the photo in the Aenima cd liner notes. Wikipedia says Denis Leary ripped off the No Cure For Cancer routine from him. Interesting

270 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:10:15pm

re: #246 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Hell, those assholes in the UK caused like $50k in damages to a powerplant and got off arguing they did it because of global warming. This asshole could walk.

Not in Tarrant County he won't. In Texas it's a third-degree felony. Stiff fines and possible time in a state jail. The fact that he's done several of these doesn't help. The local Hummer dealer near there (Classic Chevrolet-Hummer in Grapevine) recognizes his work - the body shop manager said he's seen several Hummers with X's scratched on them (Jeppe's trademark).

271 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:10:22pm

re: #244 Alaska Kim

Good tip!
That's another reason I want to quit. I want to start running. I walk 2 miles a day, but I need something more.
And holy crap! Smokes are expensive up here. $6 a pack.

Well when my son got back from Iraq he asked for lots of beer and pizza and a pack of marboro cigarrettes..
He didn't have the balls to smoke one in front of me..Big bad Marine..
/kids...and since I've never fired a gun and if I was in Iraq..I'd be smoking like a chimney

272 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:10:29pm

re: #252 Silhouette

It hurts Mr. Silhouette to pay $4-$5 or whatever a pack, when he can see tobacco growing in the field beside the store.

SHouldn't it be cheaper here? ;-)

Taxes.

273 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:10:47pm

re: #270 Ward Cleaver

the body shop manager said he's seen several Hummers with X's scratched on them (Jeppe's trademark).

Like the Wet Bandits!

274 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:10:54pm

re: #259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I thought that said Porn the first time I read it.

Hey! Not me!

275 FrogMarch  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:11:02pm

re: #240 rain of lead

"I told you I'd shoot but you didn't belive me"
"Why didn't you believe me?!"

Happy happy joy joy

276 lifeofthemind  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:11:05pm

re: #266 Alouette

How did you know they were Canadians? Because of their split heads?

The signs and that they spoke better unaccented English were clues, also a strange calming effect.

277 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:12:04pm

re: #255 Slumbering Behemoth

Bill Hicks on smoking. NSFW!

ROFL!

278 Eowyn2  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:12:15pm

re: #267 loppyd

Thousands attend NYC anti-Iran rally

Still can't believe Hillary's high school "if she's going I'm not going" antics.

SUCH a beyatch.

life goes on.

279 doppelganglander  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:12:45pm

re: #185 SummerSong

Orange County, CA is "America's most Republican county".

[Link: www.ocgop.org...]

Don't hate us because we're beautiful. :)

I can't believe you beat out Cobb County, Georgia. Yesterday afternoon at the state fair, the GOP booth was mobbed, the Democrats had one lonely worker, and the Libertarians had two young dorks and one old dork who didn't seem to realize that my husband, their only customer, was yanking their chain.

280 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:12:50pm

re: #268 lifeofthemind

That was a jury. The judge couldn't keep it out.

281 loppyd  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:13:16pm

How Obama Lost Me
(not me of course - I was never his to lose)

A laundry list from a former Obama supporter.

Yummy.

282 lifeofthemind  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:13:56pm

re: #267 loppyd

Thousands attend NYC anti-Iran rally

Still can't believe Hillary's high school "if she's going I'm not going" antics.

SUCH a beyatch.

Very foolish of her to bow out but Obama is getting naked in the abuse of threats by his creatures, warning charities they could lose their tax exemptions if Republicans are allowed to speak.

283 loppyd  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:14:33pm

re: #282 lifeofthemind

Very foolish of her to bow out but Obama is getting naked in the abuse of threats by his creatures, warning charities they could lose their tax exemptions if Republicans are allowed to speak.

I heard that nugget on Rush today.

284 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:14:46pm

re: #235 Ward Cleaver

It's the latter. The city was devastated in the So Cal fires a couple of years ago.

Coming up on the anniversary. Much of that devastation occurred because the City Manager decided to cordon off a neighborhood and let it burn. It was my neighborhood. My house survived, but about 30 others didn't. My street took a real hit : mine is 1 of 2 houses standing. 14 others burnt to the ground. Since then, the same city manager has raised building fees twice and only one of the houses on our street has been able to get through the gauntlet of red tape to start rebuilding (they started the foundation last week).

[Link: www.signonsandiego.com...]

Anyone who doubts that egos dictating government action (and inaction) can directly effect his/her life, point them to this post.

285 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:15:15pm

re: #266 Alouette

How did you know they were Canadians? Because of their split heads?

"The Canadian government has already apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions."

286 Alaska Kim  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:15:20pm

re: #259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I thought that said Porn the first time I read it.

Get your mind out of the gutter! that's hysterical.

287 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:15:48pm

re: #279 doppelganglander

I can't believe you beat out Cobb County, Georgia. Yesterday afternoon at the state fair, the GOP booth was mobbed, the Democrats had one lonely worker, and the Libertarians had two young dorks and one old dork who didn't seem to realize that my husband, their only customer, was yanking their chain.

Did your husband have a good time? Sounds like it. Hugh Hewitt calls them "Losertarians".

288 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:16:05pm

re: #285 Slumbering Behemoth

"The Canadian government has already apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions."

That's a start.

289 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:16:21pm

re: #269 JeremiahRight


Wikipedia says Denis Leary ripped off the No Cure For Cancer routine from him. Interesting

'Tis true. I still like Denis Leary, though.

290 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:16:32pm

re: #249 Alaska Kim

Pom? I love that stuff. Expensive but good.

More than a few ounces of it actually makes me feel a bit nauseous.

291 Cygnus  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:17:19pm

re: #219 faraway

I have tried to stop reading LGF.

Is there a patch or some medication that I can take?

I have tried vodka and pain killers, but they don't work.

Work for a company that completly bans Internet use if not work-related. That'll do the trick. BTW, I'm typing this from home.

292 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:17:25pm

re: #290 Occasional Reader

More than a few ounces of it actually makes me feel a bit nauseous.

Can you mix it with vodka?

293 loppyd  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:17:40pm

Via Hot Air

Video: NRA drops four new ads on Obama

This will have the bowtie bumkissers at the NYT in a tizzy.

294 rain of lead  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:17:42pm

re: #275 FrogMarch

Happy happy joy joy

yeah posted that link waaay upthread,

since my kid is hanging out with me now here is a post for her
(she is a huuuge LR fan
crank it up and rip the knobs off

295 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:18:48pm

re: #292 Ward Cleaver

Can you mix it with vodka?

Coming right up, sir.

Wait a minute... make your own damn drink.

296 Cygnus  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:18:57pm

re: #232 Silhouette

You can try LOLCATS, but it just isn't the same.

Failblog.com comes pretty close.

297 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:19:37pm

Winner Staffer Liu-Klein on the Yes or No Question of Whether He Uploaded the Palin Smear and Posted it to DU: "I'll have to get back to you"

They're obviously trying to get their stories straight and figure out some plausible way to claim this had nothing to do with the Obama campaign.

They're a crisis communications firm. And they've had 12 hours to figure out their story. But they apparently haven't come up with a good one yet.

I wonder if Liu-Klein realizes that as the lowest man on the totem poll here, he's the obvious fall-guy: "We regret an overly eager employee decided to hijack our YouTube accounts for his own unauthorized political purposes..."

Emphasis added.

298 alkmyst  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:19:55pm

re: #257 MandyManners

Miss Manners!

Yah :-)

299 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:20:15pm

re: #288 Ward Cleaver

You don't like Summer of 69? I think that's rather sad.

300 3 wood  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:20:17pm

To Occasional Reader, if you are still out there, the point I was trying to make is the drop in the market today is not anything I would be worried about long term. It was more due to foolish rule changes made on the run by the SEC that created a loop hole in the short sale situation.

Once they wake up and fix the loop holes, I would expect to see a 3% jump in the market within an hour or two of that.

The SEC has to wake up and get their act together. This is way too important to muck it up now.

301 nyc redneck  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:20:25pm

re: #276 lifeofthemind

The signs and that they spoke better unaccented English were clues, also a strange calming effect.

how big was the crowd?

302 loppyd  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:20:40pm
303 lifeofthemind  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:20:51pm

re: #292 Ward Cleaver

Can you mix it with vodka?

Is there anything that hasn't been mixed with vodka?, maybe green tea?

304 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:21:09pm

re: #290 Occasional Reader

More than a few ounces of it actually makes me feel a bit nauseous.

Almost every man I know says that. They really can't abide it.

305 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:21:14pm

re: #285 Slumbering Behemoth

"The Canadian government has already apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions."

I thought the agreement was that Rush couldn't stop touring until after Bryan stopped recording or died.

306 Eowyn2  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:21:56pm

re: #223 Ward Cleaver

Southlake Hummer vandal: "I confess, I'm a moonbat!"

Warrant: Southlake Hummer vandalism suspect motivated by environmental concerns, admitted to other crimes

He's a dues-paying member of the Sierra Club and Greenpeace.

He can afford to pay dues to the Sierra Club and Green Peace but he admits to having "financial difficulties"

guess what? he aint seen nothing yet.

72 yr olds should know better.

We're in deep shit when the rest of the Greatest Generation is gone if we are going to be ruled but the scraps left behind. the hippy generation. scary thoughts

307 rain of lead  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:22:08pm

re: #303 lifeofthemind

Is there anything that hasn't been mixed with vodka?, maybe green tea?

I mix my vodka with..... more vodka!

:)

308 3 wood  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:22:26pm

Following up on my #300, you would also see a jump in the value of the dollar and a corresponding drop in the price of oil.

Gold would drop too. A lot of money is fleeing to gold right now, bidding the price up, until the SEC can get their act together.

309 WrathofG-d  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:22:46pm

re: #307 rain of lead

I like my sugar with coffee and cream.

(who said it?....)

310 loppyd  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:22:55pm
311 Tamron  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:23:46pm

re: #206 Dianna

Last Tuesday, while fighting bronchitis, I had another bronchial spasm - the worst I've ever had. Again, a visit to the ER.
...
All my life, if I get upset, I have gotten short of breath. It's not asthma, it's all psychological. I'm interested in seeing how that works out with not smoking.


Say Dianna, I'm familiar with what you're referring to. Take a look at increasing the oxygen level in your body, with a harmless product like THIS. Take a swig once or twice a day.

If your body is lightly deficient in oxygen (and if you're too lazy to do regular aerobic workouts, like some of us), then anaerobic ('oxygen hating') bacteria can flourish in the respiratory system. Smoking increases the negative effect, by further decreasing the oxygen level. If you raise your oxygen content by whatever means, this lessens the effect which any bacteria might be causing. I know someone who once got rid of a full-blown case of pneumonia in just 24 hours, with no drugs, by getting a special oxygen treatment from an alternative-medicine MD.

Not prescribing medicine, just relaying a personal experience. Oxygen is an element. Get more of it into your system and see if it helps. Several hundred years ago the oxygen level in Earth's atmosphere was between 30% and 40%, whereas today it's down around 20%. Thus we have to compensate, and especially those of us whose respiration system has somehow been compromised. It makes a big difference.
.

312 rain of lead  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:23:48pm

re: #309 WrathofG-d

I like my sugar with coffee and cream.

(who said it?....)

my best friend? (coffee addict!)

313 lifeofthemind  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:23:54pm

re: #301 nyc redneck

how big was the crowd?

I left after an hour and I'd guess under 2,000 but that isn't my specialty, some were coming and some leaving, the cops weren't letting more in to the main area at that time.

314 debutaunt  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:24:08pm

re: #229 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

POW-way.

Thank you - my daughter used to live in Rancho Bernardo and I heard it pronounced both ways.

315 Eowyn2  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:24:10pm

re: #285 Slumbering Behemoth

"The Canadian government has already apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions."

how bout Alan thicke?

316 nyc redneck  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:24:18pm

re: #307 rain of lead

I mix my vodka with..... more vodka!

:)

like a friend of mine who puts red pepper corns in it and leaves the bottle in the freezer.

317 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:24:20pm

re: #285 Slumbering Behemoth

"The Canadian government has already apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions."

Well, I couldn't find the clip for that, so here is this instead: Totally NSFW!

With apologies to all Canadian Lizards.

318 JeremiahRight  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:24:59pm

re: #277 scottishbuzzsaw

ROFL!

"Man, its really a shame its that secondary smoke that stinks so bad, cause the stuff we're suckin up, f*ck its good! Woooo!"

Priceless. Almost makes me miss smokin...

319 loppyd  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:25:12pm

BF is booting me off the computer. WHAAA.

BBL

320 opnion  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:25:16pm

re: #310 loppyd

McCain suporter tears the MSM a new one at town hall meeting in PA!

"NBC, NBC, NBC,!"


Video would be great. Good for her!

321 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:26:02pm

re: #311 Tamron

Thanks for the tip.

I do martial arts, so I think I'm getting good aerobic exercise.

It's just time to stop smoking. Hell, it will mean that my house gets a lot cleaner!

322 Cygnus  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:26:22pm

re: #303 lifeofthemind

Is there anything that hasn't been mixed with vodka?, maybe green tea?

Buttermilk.
Powdered skim milk.
Mrs. Butterworth syrup.

Just a few suggestions.

323 Mel Lono  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:26:31pm

re: #257 MandyManners

Dennis Leary?

Mandy - You just made my day! I will go to work today with a smile on my face and a sense of humor... I promise... cuz deep down I know I'm an Asshole!

324 JeremiahRight  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:26:41pm

re: #312 rain of lead

my best friend? (coffee addict!)

Wow, from Tool to the Beastie Boys in a single thread. You lizards have good taste in music

325 FrogMarch  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:27:31pm

re: #293 loppyd

Via Hot Air

Video: NRA drops four new ads on Obama

This will have the bowtie bumkissers at the NYT in a tizzy.

Add that to Penn and Teller's little gun ditty - and bam - Nobama.

326 alkmyst  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:27:43pm

re: #312 rain of lead

Beastie Boys
:-)

327 lifeofthemind  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:27:46pm

re: #311 Tamron

No, the Oxygen level is 16% and has not changed in possibly millions of years. Do not push products in here with psuedo-science.

328 jwb7605  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:28:01pm

re: #322 Cygnus

Buttermilk.
Powdered skim milk.
Mrs. Butterworth syrup.

Just a few suggestions.

329 FrogMarch  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:29:30pm

re: #325 FrogMarch

Add that to Penn and Teller's little gun ditty - and bam - Nobama.

Of course there's also Bullshit part I & II

330 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:29:33pm

re: #293 loppyd

Via Hot Air

Video: NRA drops four new ads on Obama

This will have the bowtie bumkissers at the NYT in a tizzy.

Great!

331 doppelganglander  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:29:40pm

re: #287 Ward Cleaver

Did your husband have a good time? Sounds like it. Hugh Hewitt calls them "Losertarians".

He regaled them with tales of our personal encounters with Bob Barr and took their little "world's shortest political test," which of course placed him as a libertarian. He said that's great, but he likes to win elections. I asked them a couple of questions about Barr's standing in the polls in Georgia (2-5%) and whether he was on the ballot in all 50 states (he's not but they weren't sure which ones). I dragged Mr. Doppelganglander away before it got into policy; the young dorks were kind of sweet but I think the old guy was spoiling for a fight.

332 debutaunt  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:30:17pm

re: #256 CyanSnowHawk

Pow-way.

I'm sitting there right now, having not gone to work today as my Son and I both have mild fevers.

When my daughter lived in Rancho Bernardo, I heard it both ways. Is the Fish Market Restaurant still in Del Mar?

333 SouthAmericanWay  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:30:22pm

It was so freakin' hilarious to read the headlines of the deep investigative pieces that the New York Times has published on Obama - as reported by the Obama campaign itself, as a response to the its characterization as "an Obama advocacy organization" by the McCain campaign chief:

In Law School, Obama Found Political Voice [New York Times, 1/28/07]

Charisma and a Search for Self In Obama's Hawaii Childhood [New York Times, 3/17/07]

A Candidate, His Minister and the Search for Faith [New York Times, 4/30/07]

In Illinois, Obama Proved Pragmatic and Shrewd. [New York Times, 7/30/07]

In 2000, a Streetwise Veteran Schooled a Bold Young Obama. [New York Times, 9/9/07]

Loyal Network Backs Obama After His Help. [New York Times, 10/1/07]

A Free-Spirited Wanderer Who Set Obama’s Path [New York Times, 3/14/08]

As a Professor, Obama Enthralled Students and Puzzled Faculty [New York Times, 7/30/08]

Again, this was presented by the Obama campaign itself as sign of the neutrality of the New York Times! By the campaign itself!

334 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:30:26pm

re: #298 alkmyst

Miss Manners!

Yah :-)

For some reason that video stirs me.

335 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:30:34pm

re: #324 JeremiahRight

Wow, from Tool to the Beastie Boys in a single thread. You lizards have good taste in music

We're a diverse crowd. Monkey3

336 Mel Lono  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:30:35pm

re: #292 Ward Cleaver

Funny you should ask. We're putting out some new POM martinis this week at the bar. Haven't seen the recipes yet, but I'll keep you posted.

337 Cygnus  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:30:35pm

re: #310 loppyd

McCain suporter tears the MSM a new one at town hall meeting in PA!

"NBC, NBC, NBC,!"

One upding for you and a thousand for that lady. The MSM will need minor surgery after that one.

338 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:30:37pm

re: #320 opnion

Video would be great. Good for her!

It is at the lower part of the linked page. great video.

339 Outrider  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:32:02pm

re: #321 Dianna

Thanks for the tip.

I do martial arts, so I think I'm getting good aerobic exercise.

It's just time to stop smoking. Hell, it will mean that my house gets a lot cleaner!

Start by quitting smoking in the house. It will keep the house cleaner and reduce your consumption. Believe it or not, it is a far easier step to take short term and you don't miss most of those routine smokes.

340 opnion  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:32:30pm

re: #338 karmic_inquisitor

It is at the lower part of the linked page. great video.


Thanks

341 Dianna  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:32:43pm

I must run away, now.

Since there's no way in hell the Major's going to let me practice tonight, I may hang out here when I get home.

Or I may go back to writing. It depends.

Take care!

342 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:32:51pm

re: #320 opnion

Video would be great. Good for her!

The video's there.

343 stuiec  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:33:44pm

re: #271 HoosierHoops

Well when my son got back from Iraq he asked for lots of beer and pizza and a pack of marboro cigarrettes..
He didn't have the balls to smoke one in front of me..Big bad Marine..
/kids...and since I've never fired a gun and if I was in Iraq..I'd be smoking like a chimney

You should look at it this way: the Marines reinforced in him the notion that you don't do something in front of someone whom you know it will offend. And that kind of courtesy takes balls.

344 opnion  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:34:10pm

There were some postings that Axlerod was in jepordy with the Obama campaign. Is that conjecture or is there anything to it?

345 jaunte  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:34:22pm

re: #333 SouthAmericanWay

That's some deeply digging, sharp NYT reporting.
With big inflatable fur-covered spoons.

346 opnion  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:34:49pm

re: #342 MandyManners

The video's there.

Thanks

347 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:35:01pm

re: #323 Mel Lono

Mandy - You just made my day! I will go to work today with a smile on my face and a sense of humor... I promise... cuz deep down I know I'm an Asshole!

w00t!

348 rain of lead  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:35:02pm

re: #342 MandyManners

Hey Mandy!
did you see the AP poll?

Vandy is in the top 25!
oh my god! the world is comming to an end.

349 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:37:42pm

re: #346 opnion

Thanks

She rips them a new one. Several new ones.

350 lifeofthemind  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:38:04pm

Next will be discovered a hard hitting piece in the NYT by Walter Duranty on how a Michelina Obamsky was beloved by all the mothers and nurses at the People's Collective no. 59, Chikorskia.

351 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:38:13pm

re: #348 rain of lead

Hey Mandy!
did you see the AP poll?

Vandy is in the top 25!
oh my god! the world is comming to an end.

Vandy can't be too bad if it produced Jake Cutler.

352 opnion  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:39:19pm

re: #349 MandyManners

She rips them a new one. Several new ones.

Just watched it , they had it coming.

353 nyc redneck  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:39:35pm

re: #327 lifeofthemind

No, the Oxygen level is 16% and has not changed in possibly millions of years. Do not push products in here with psuedo-science.

speaking of oxygen levels,
300 million yrs. ago, centipedes were 10 ft. long
and spiders a yard across w/ legs like furry baseball bats.
cockroaches 3 ft. long.
how would you like to be an orkin man back then?

354 HoosierHoops  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:39:36pm

re: #343 stuiec

You should look at it this way: the Marines reinforced in him the notion that you don't do something in front of someone your father whom you know it will offend. And that kind of courtesy takes balls.


fixed..
Jordan is my brave and strong son...I am a proud Marine parent.. He can smoke if he wants...Maybe..
/and i do mean maybe

355 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:40:39pm

For anyone who doubts that the fix is in for Obama, run this google news search on Astroturfing.

356 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:40:44pm

re: #352 opnion

Just watched it , they had it coming.

Lotsa' cheering and applause. It looked like several people stood up, too.

357 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:41:40pm

re: #355 karmic_inquisitor

For anyone who doubts that the fix is in for Obama, run this google news search on Astroturfing.

There are only four.

358 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:41:51pm

Gotta' sling some hash. bbl

359 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:41:52pm

BTW : has Cognito commented on the Astroturfing issue?

360 rain of lead  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:42:01pm

re: #351 MandyManners

Jake is doing well in the NFL cause he is used to getting hit.
at Vandy he got his a** handed to him every week
this is like old times.."pressure what pressure"

361 Truck Monkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:42:04pm

re: #303 lifeofthemind

Is there anything that hasn't been mixed with vodka?, maybe green tea?

Clam Juice. Pepto Bismol.

362 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:42:35pm

re: #297 Sharmuta

He's a Winner.

363 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:42:37pm

re: #353 nyc redneck

speaking of oxygen levels,
300 million yrs. ago, centipedes were 10 ft. long
and spiders a yard across w/ legs like furry baseball bats.
cockroaches 3 ft. long.
how would you like to be an orkin man back then?

Maybe they were bigger, too.

Orkin men, 80 ft tall, with arms like giant redwoods. And the trucks! The orkin trucks were huge.

/

364 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:43:30pm

re: #359 karmic_inquisitor

BTW : has Cognito commented on the Astroturfing issue?

Too busy shredding?

365 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:43:33pm

re: #357 MandyManners

There are only four.

Exactly. All blogs. No media whatsoever.

Obamaton accusations of malfeasance get far more coverage with far less meat to chew on.

Crickets.

366 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:43:44pm

re: #332 debutaunt

When my daughter lived in Rancho Bernardo, I heard it both ways. Is the Fish Market Restaurant still in Del Mar?

I believe it is, but I haven't been to it. I don't get out that way much except for the SD County Fair.

367 stuiec  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:44:03pm

re: #361 Truck Monkey

Clam Juice. Pepto Bismol.

Here’s the classic recipe for a Caesar:

1 ounce Vodka
Clamato Juice
1 dash Worcestershire sauce
1 dash Tabasco sauce
Salt
Pepper
Celery salt
Celery stick

Rim a tall glass with celery salt and fill with ice. Add vodka, fill glass with Clamato juice and add Worcestershire sauce, Tabasco, salt and pepper. Garnish with a celery stick and enjoy.

368 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:44:27pm

re: #45 rain of lead

But for our favorite tree sitters:

369 opnion  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:44:37pm

re: #353 nyc redneck

speaking of oxygen levels,
300 million yrs. ago, centipedes were 10 ft. long
and spiders a yard across w/ legs like furry baseball bats.
cockroaches 3 ft. long.
how would you like to be an orkin man back then?

Interestingly enough, that was the same time as the last Cubs World Series.

370 neocon hippie  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:45:06pm

re: #344 opnion

Just conjecture. Given that Axelrod is the man behind the curtain, to throw him under the bus at this point would cause the campaign to self-destruct.

371 lifeofthemind  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:45:13pm

re: #353 nyc redneck

speaking of oxygen levels,
300 million yrs. ago, centipedes were 10 ft. long
and spiders a yard across w/ legs like furry baseball bats.
cockroaches 3 ft. long.
how would you like to be an orkin man back then?

They haunted our Summer camp stories, and sometimes our socks. So 6 lobsters = 2 Carboniferous roaches = 1 politician?

At the American Museum of Natural history they have the diorama with the Huge millipede model, in the North American forests exhibit. It was made from a vacuum cleaner hose.

372 alkmyst  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:45:24pm

re: #334 MandyManners

I generally prefer shaken, not stirred, but yeah - it was that show that completely did it for me :-)

373 pat  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:45:26pm

Talked to a moonbat today that said banking crises was caused by Bush. Reality Challenged. The MSM goes quiet.

374 loflyer  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:46:41pm

Arrrrr, thanks for the links Frog. Here is Penn and Teller on Patriotism

375 twincitiesgirl  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:46:43pm

This will make some men happy, but no one else. Seems I've read the same type of article for the last few decades or so.....

Sexist Attitudes and the Wage Gap

/bbl

376 opnion  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:47:02pm

re: #370 neocon hippie

Just conjecture. Given that Axelrod is the man behind the curtain, to throw him under the bus at this point would cause the campaign to self-destruct.


Yeah, thats what I think. There is precedent. Dukakis threw Susan Estrich off of the sled, but that campaign had nothing to lose.

377 Alouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:47:35pm

re: #370 neocon hippie

Just conjecture. Given that Axelrod is the man behind the curtain, to throw him under the bus at this point would cause the campaign to self-destruct.

I thought Obama has all that executive experience of running his own campaign.

378 jacksontn  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:47:53pm

From Ace:

Fresh from the Jawas:

Statement of Ethan Winner
The following is in response to questions I have received regarding the post on the Jawa Report website.

I produced and posted on the Internet the video entitled "Sarah Palin: A Heartbeat Away."

The idea for the video was mine. No one paid me to produce it. The only out-of-pocket cost will be the fee for the voice-over narrator, which I will pay personally when I receive an invoice. Contrary to the allegation in the Jawa Report, the voice-over artist has never done any work for the Obama campaign. I retained her through a talent agency based solely on the quality of her voice.

Neither the Obama campaign nor any independent political action committee has had a connection with the making and/or posting of this video. Just like the thousands of Americans who have posted videos on the Internet regarding the current Presidential campaign, I produced this video as an expression of my right to free speech, which is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.

I believe the American people have a right and a need to know information about candidates for political office and their views. I made this video because I think it is important for the public to be aware of the association between Sarah and Todd Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party. The New York Times has reported that the Alaskan Independence Party website describes the party as seeking, in the words of the party, "a range of solutions to the conflicts between federal and local authority," including "advocacy for state's rights, through a return to territorial status, all the way to complete independence and nationhood status for Alaska."

While a number of media outlets have said that reports that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party may have been erroneous, her attendance at the party's 1994 convention, her video speech to the 2008 convention and her husband's membership in the Alaskan Independence Party have not been called into question.

Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.

379 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:48:10pm
380 Truck Monkey  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:48:36pm

re: #367 stuiec

Here’s the classic recipe for a Caesar:

1 ounce Vodka
Clamato Juice
1 dash Worcestershire sauce
1 dash Tabasco sauce
Salt
Pepper
Celery salt
Celery stick

Rim a tall glass with celery salt and fill with ice. Add vodka, fill glass with Clamato juice and add Worcestershire sauce, Tabasco, salt and pepper. Garnish with a celery stick and enjoy.

Why ruin perfectly good Vodka with all of that other shit?

/

381 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:49:59pm

re: #364 Silhouette

Well, since he's not here, I think he's kindofa PulpFiction defender.

382 opnion  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:50:30pm

re: #377 Alouette

I thought Obama has all that executive experience of running his own campaign.


Well, he ah ah ah, has ah all the um, ah you know.

383 doppelganglander  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:50:32pm

re: #378 jacksontn

I don't believe one word of that statement, including "and" and "the."

384 lifeofthemind  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:51:21pm

re: #378 jacksontn

The Whaaaambulance is arriving, the backstory is being tacked dowm for him, tacky with fresh paint.

385 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:51:25pm

re: #378 jacksontn

From Ace:

Fresh from the Jawas: Statement of Ethan Winner...
Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.

Well, that clears that up. And I thought there may be something fishy going on here.

/

386 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:51:47pm

re: #378 jacksontn

From Ace:

Fresh from the Jawas:

Statement of Ethan Winner
The following is... [snip] ...phone calls and emails.

Looks like this was the "in the event that any of your IMF team is killed or captured" option.

387 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:51:54pm

re: #204 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

All the punks are going to scream "Yippie!"
It's The Thing That Only Eats Hippies!
-Dead Milkmen

It's a shame that Rodney Anonymous is a shrill, barking moonie. Or at least, he mostly is.

/blow it out your hairdo, because you work at Hardee's.

388 Reality_Wrangler  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:52:01pm

Good grief, stuck in an airport in Memphis for 2 hours, every monitor it tuned in CNN, banner reads "Why Osama will win" with Bubba pontificating. Is it any wonder that Steve Schmidt said today: "Whatever the New York Times once was, it is today not by any standard a journalistic organization. It is a pro-Obama advocacy organization. This is an organization that is completely, totally, 150 percent in the tank for the Democratic candidate." Is it any wonder 9 out of 10 Americans agree...? I am watching travelers stare up at these screens with blank looks. I really wonder...

389 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:52:34pm

re: #378 jacksontn

Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.

Ummm. And this guy does what for whom?

I thought so. Just another 'concerned American'. Uhhuh. Right.

390 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:52:44pm

re: #378 jacksontn

First of all, he said "heartbeat", so everyone Drink! (It's the new Hope and Change)

Secondly,

Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.

How does pulling the video which doesn't have the personal information stop these alleged threats? Logically, that makes no sense.

391 jwb7605  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:53:46pm

re: #293 loppyd

Via Hot Air

Video: NRA drops four new ads on Obama

This will have the bowtie bumkissers at the NYT in a tizzy.


The NRA 503C "main" site is here with all 4 ads available.

The particular ad that addresses the issues of my concern is this one.

My take is that "worrying about getting guns banned" is not the issue to target.
Getting all the supplies banned is the thing to watch out for.

392 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:53:50pm
393 JeremiahRight  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:54:09pm

re: #387 Pawn of the Oppressor

It's a shame that Rodney Anonymous is a shrill, barking moonie. Or at least, he mostly is.

Pro-establishment bands makes for one short playlist my friend. Unless you're into country, I guess they're the exception

394 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:54:15pm

re: #378 jacksontn

From Ace:
Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.

Bullshit. As if people who handle that much money are listed in the phone book...

I knew they were going to shout "Free Speech!"-slash-"I am a concerned citizen!", which is fine, except that's not the fuckin' point.

395 WhiteRasta  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:54:19pm

re: #388 Reality_Wrangler

There was a Lizard here who traveled with a universal TV remote. He'd change the airport TV monitors from Communist News Network to Fox.

BWAAHAHAHAHH!

396 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:55:10pm

re: #394 Pawn of the Oppressor

Bullshit. As if people who handle that much money are listed in the phone book...

I knew they were going to shout "Free Speech!"-slash-"I am a concerned citizen!", which is fine, except that's not the fuckin' point.

But they always claim death threats.

397 Eowyn2  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:55:41pm

re: #361 Truck Monkey

Clam Juice. Pepto Bismol.

my son drinks the pepto before going out.
clam juice and vodka --- Ceasar.

398 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:55:43pm

re: #395 WhiteRasta

There was a Lizard here who traveled with a universal TV remote. He'd change the airport TV monitors from Communist News Network to Fox.

BWAAHAHAHAHH!

I like that.

399 kansas  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:56:08pm

re: #311 Tamron

Say Dianna, I'm familiar with what you're referring to. Take a look at increasing the oxygen level in your body, with a harmless product like THIS. Take a swig once or twice a day.

If your body is lightly deficient in oxygen (and if you're too lazy to do regular aerobic workouts, like some of us), then anaerobic ('oxygen hating') bacteria can flourish in the respiratory system. Smoking increases the negative effect, by further decreasing the oxygen level. If you raise your oxygen content by whatever means, this lessens the effect which any bacteria might be causing. I know someone who once got rid of a full-blown case of pneumonia in just 24 hours, with no drugs, by getting a special oxygen treatment from an alternative-medicine MD.

Not prescribing medicine, just relaying a personal experience. Oxygen is an element. Get more of it into your system and see if it helps. Several hundred years ago the oxygen level in Earth's atmosphere was between 30% and 40%, whereas today it's down around 20%. Thus we have to compensate, and especially those of us whose respiration system has somehow been compromised. It makes a big difference.
.

I would guess that if you had anaerobic bacteria in your lungs you might need more than a swig of worthless shit sold by some scam artist. But hey, that's just me.

400 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:56:28pm

re: #378 jacksontn

From Ace:

Fresh from the Jawas:

Statement of Ethan Winner
The following is in response to questions I have received regarding the post on the Jawa Report website.

I produced and posted on the Internet the video entitled "Sarah Palin: A Heartbeat Away."

The idea for the video was mine. No one paid me to produce it. The only out-of-pocket cost will be the fee for the voice-over narrator, which I will pay personally when I receive an invoice. Contrary to the allegation in the Jawa Report, the voice-over artist has never done any work for the Obama campaign. I retained her through a talent agency based solely on the quality of her voice.

Neither the Obama campaign nor any independent political action committee has had a connection with the making and/or posting of this video. Just like the thousands of Americans who have posted videos on the Internet regarding the current Presidential campaign, I produced this video as an expression of my right to free speech, which is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.

I believe the American people have a right and a need to know information about candidates for political office and their views. I made this video because I think it is important for the public to be aware of the association between Sarah and Todd Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party. The New York Times has reported that the Alaskan Independence Party website describes the party as seeking, in the words of the party, "a range of solutions to the conflicts between federal and local authority," including "advocacy for state's rights, through a return to territorial status, all the way to complete independence and nationhood status for Alaska."

While a number of media outlets have said that reports that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party may have been erroneous, her attendance at the party's 1994 convention, her video speech to the 2008 convention and her husband's membership in the Alaskan Independence Party have not been called into question.

Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.

And this explains the sock puppetry how?

401 JacksonTn  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:57:50pm

I still want to know how you can tell who uploaded something to google videos. Anyone?

402 loflyer  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:57:57pm

re: #375 twincitiesgirl

This will make some men happy, but no one else. Seems I've read the same type of article for the last few decades or so.....

Sexist Attitudes and the Wage Gap

/bbl

Yaaar, Perhaps the "traditionalist " white male makes the extra 17 grand because he worked his ass off for it. And needs the extra money because his wife is home with the kids raising them to be good Americans, and productive citizens. My brother and his wife are liberals, but she was a stay at home and cared for the kids. They are a "tight" family and my niece is about to enter her internship as a medical doctor. She will ultimately end up making more than her father, but she put in eight years of higher education and will have paid her dues to earn it....Way to go Mimi!

403 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:58:02pm

re: #15 formercorpsman

Another one.

[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

I heard that on the radio (not CBC!).

Sad that there are people (?) in this world who are so limited in their scope that all they aspire to do is ape some other goblin's crime.

Sounds like this one knew he had problems, and actually turned himself in to the cops in Wawa for a mental assessment. He was duly assessed by the head-bender at the local hospital, who determined that he was not crazy enough to hold under the terms of the mental health act.

Free government health care at work!

404 Outrider  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:58:10pm

re: #378 jacksontn

Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.

In the short period of time between the release of the warning message by Aces and the yanking of the videos ( 90 minutes) he received threatening and abusive phone calls and emails. So many people out there actually made the connection to his name; found his phone number and E-mail address and made their calls. Threatening phone calls are illegal. He, of course did not not notify the police as the caller could be IDed; we have only his word for this.

The stonewalling has begun.

405 jwb7605  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:58:33pm

re: #394 Pawn of the Oppressor

Bullshit. As if people who handle that much money are listed in the phone book...

I knew they were going to shout "Free Speech!"-slash-"I am a concerned citizen!", which is fine, except that's not the fuckin' point.

The f*ckin point is that he admits he did it.
That strips about two weeks off proving it the hard way.

406 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:58:44pm

re: #400 Sharmuta

And this explains the sock puppetry how?

What are you, some kind of anti-free-speech unamerican fascist reactionary? SHUT UP! BE QUIET! LOOK OVER THERE!

/

407 ArmyWife  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:59:27pm

re: #400 Sharmuta

You are so not nuanced. Sheesh. If you don't get it, its obviously just too complex for you and I am not wasting my time explaining it. You will simply need to trust that it is because I say so.

/

408 lifeofthemind  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:59:39pm

re: #403 Alberta Oil Peon

I heard that on the radio (not CBC!).

Sad that there are people (?) in this world who are so limited in their scope that all they aspire to do is ape some other goblin's crime.

Sounds like this one knew he had problems, and actually turned himself in to the cops in Wawa for a mental assessment. He was duly assessed by the head-bender at the local hospital, who determined that he was not crazy enough to hold under the terms of the mental health act.

Free government health care at work!


Catch-22? You turned yourself in, that proves you are sane.

409 sattv4u2  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:59:53pm

Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Someone (Ace and Jawa) with two ounces of common cents connected the dots, added 2 plus 2, and correctly came up with 4. Please forward all future correspondence to me at

UNDER THE BUS
BACK RIGHT WHEEL
CHICAGO ILL

410 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:00:12pm

re: #378 jacksontn

From Ace:

Fresh from the Jawas:

Statement of Ethan Winner
The following is in response to questions I have received regarding the post on the Jawa Report website.

I produced and posted on the Internet the video entitled "Sarah Palin: A Heartbeat Away."

The idea for the video was mine. No one paid me to produce it. The only out-of-pocket cost will be the fee for the voice-over narrator, which I will pay personally when I receive an invoice. Contrary to the allegation in the Jawa Report, the voice-over artist has never done any work for the Obama campaign. I retained her through a talent agency based solely on the quality of her voice.

Neither the Obama campaign nor any independent political action committee has had a connection with the making and/or posting of this video. Just like the thousands of Americans who have posted videos on the Internet regarding the current Presidential campaign, I produced this video as an expression of my right to free speech, which is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.

I believe the American people have a right and a need to know information about candidates for political office and their views. I made this video because I think it is important for the public to be aware of the association between Sarah and Todd Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party. The New York Times has reported that the Alaskan Independence Party website describes the party as seeking, in the words of the party, "a range of solutions to the conflicts between federal and local authority," including "advocacy for state's rights, through a return to territorial status, all the way to complete independence and nationhood status for Alaska."

While a number of media outlets have said that reports that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party may have been erroneous, her attendance at the party's 1994 convention, her video speech to the 2008 convention and her husband's membership in the Alaskan Independence Party have not been called into question.

Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.

And this explains the kos diary deletions how?

411 Silhouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:00:20pm

In the first days after Palin was announced, the phrase "heartbeat away" popped up everywhere, each "source" supposedly independant of the others.

Amazing coincidence, or fraudulent "viral" "grassroots" action? You decide.

412 JacksonTn  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:00:29pm

re: #404 Outrider

In the short period of time between the release of the warning message by Aces and the yanking of the videos ( 90 minutes) he received threatening and abusive phone calls and emails. So many people out there actually made the connection to his name; found his phone number and E-mail address and made their calls. Threatening phone calls are illegal. He, of course did not not notify the police as the caller could be IDed; we have only his word for this.

The stonewalling has begun.

He failed to say the calls were actually coming from Axelrod, et al.

413 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:00:36pm
414 loflyer  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:01:14pm

re: #391 jwb7605

The NRA 503C "main" site is here with all 4 ads available.

The particular ad that addresses the issues of my concern is this one.

My take is that "worrying about getting guns banned" is not the issue to target.
Getting all the supplies banned is the thing to watch out for.

Mateys, Never register your weapons unless forced by law! Primers are the weak point in ammo. No supply of primers and nothing works..

415 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:01:14pm

re: #378 jacksontn

From Ace:

Fresh from the Jawas:

Statement of Ethan Winner
The following is in response to questions I have received regarding the post on the Jawa Report website.

I produced and posted on the Internet the video entitled "Sarah Palin: A Heartbeat Away."

The idea for the video was mine. No one paid me to produce it. The only out-of-pocket cost will be the fee for the voice-over narrator, which I will pay personally when I receive an invoice. Contrary to the allegation in the Jawa Report, the voice-over artist has never done any work for the Obama campaign. I retained her through a talent agency based solely on the quality of her voice.

Neither the Obama campaign nor any independent political action committee has had a connection with the making and/or posting of this video. Just like the thousands of Americans who have posted videos on the Internet regarding the current Presidential campaign, I produced this video as an expression of my right to free speech, which is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.

I believe the American people have a right and a need to know information about candidates for political office and their views. I made this video because I think it is important for the public to be aware of the association between Sarah and Todd Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party. The New York Times has reported that the Alaskan Independence Party website describes the party as seeking, in the words of the party, "a range of solutions to the conflicts between federal and local authority," including "advocacy for state's rights, through a return to territorial status, all the way to complete independence and nationhood status for Alaska."

While a number of media outlets have said that reports that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party may have been erroneous, her attendance at the party's 1994 convention, her video speech to the 2008 convention and her husband's membership in the Alaskan Independence Party have not been called into question.

Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.

Will he be providing the invoice of the voice over lady to prove it's not the one from the 0bama ads?

416 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:01:40pm

re: #391 jwb7605

The NRA 503C "main" site is here with all 4 ads available.

The particular ad that addresses the issues of my concern is this one.

My take is that "worrying about getting guns banned" is not the issue to target.
Getting all the supplies banned is the thing to watch out for.


Loader says "Ooorah" for the NRA!
Now ...off to the sporting goods!

417 johnnyreb  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:02:03pm

re: #311 Tamron

Say Dianna, I'm familiar with what you're referring to. Take a look at increasing the oxygen level in your body, with a harmless product like THIS. Take a swig once or twice a day.

If your body is lightly deficient in oxygen (and if you're too lazy to do regular aerobic workouts, like some of us), then anaerobic ('oxygen hating') bacteria can flourish in the respiratory system. Smoking increases the negative effect, by further decreasing the oxygen level. If you raise your oxygen content by whatever means, this lessens the effect which any bacteria might be causing. I know someone who once got rid of a full-blown case of pneumonia in just 24 hours, with no drugs, by getting a special oxygen treatment from an alternative-medicine MD.

Not prescribing medicine, just relaying a personal experience. Oxygen is an element. Get more of it into your system and see if it helps. Several hundred years ago the oxygen level in Earth's atmosphere was between 30% and 40%, whereas today it's down around 20%. Thus we have to compensate, and especially those of us whose respiration system has somehow been compromised. It makes a big difference.
.

What? 40% O2 levels would poison human, mammel and plant life nearly instantly. Where did you get these figures?

418 Bat Boy  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:02:14pm

re: #400 Sharmuta

And this explains the sock puppetry how?

'Sock puppetry'? You say that like its a bad thing.

419 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:02:27pm
Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.

And this is different than the treatment Sarah Palin and her family have come under how?

420 ArmyWife  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:02:58pm

re: #415 Sharmuta

In short order. With all of his family member's information blacked out, because, well, you know what happened when he posted a youtube video. It contained all of his, as well as his families, contact information which was then published by the jawa whatevers and, well, you know the rest of the story.

421 celtic templar  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:03:01pm

re: #409 sattv4u2

Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.

Actually, no one asked WHY. We sorta know, thus the point of Rusty's investigation. Lots of remarked on how quick you removed it Mr. Winner. Quicker than any nonsense about people calling or e-mailing you or your family. Nice try, but FAIL.

422 Alouette  Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:03:20pm

re: #419 Sharmuta

A