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Open | Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:55:24 pm PDT
In the New World, happiness is enforced.
— Peter Porter
781 comments
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zombie Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:56:40pm |
In the New World, happiness is enforced.
Be happy -- or you'll be sorry!
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debutaunt Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:56:46pm |
Oh hell, if I'm unhappy, I'm gonna get slapped around.
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WrathofG-d Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:58:19pm |
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 22, 2008 1:59:12pm |
In the New World, happiness is enforced.
Oh, but melancholy can be so sweet....
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BackwardsBoy Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:00:50pm |
Just killin' time here, being happy until the six o'clock news comes on. Has anybody heard of the astroturf wars going mainstream? Rush didn't mention anything that I heard of, but I've only heard bits and pieces of radio today.
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WrathofG-d Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:01:03pm |
re: #8 Ben Hur
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:01:04pm |
Welcome to Alpha Complex. The Computer is your friend. Trust the Computer. Happiness is Mandatory.
/I miss Paranoia, great game
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Occasional Reader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:01:17pm |
Peter Porter
picked a pack of pickled peppers
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WrathofG-d Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:01:53pm |
re: #12 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
....what are you doing, Dave......
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Occasional Reader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:02:26pm |
re: #6 Ben Hur
Who knew Spider-man was so profound?
He spends a lot of time with "Mary Jane", if you know what I mean. Doors of perception cleansed, etc.
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:03:06pm |
Chrissy is on MSNBC. Something about white people not getting tingle up their legs for Obama. Their legs are clearly racist.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:03:44pm |
Well. Not a good day in the markets, was it.
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Eowyn2 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:04:36pm |
re: #17 vbspurs
Chrissy is on MSNBC. Something about white people not getting tingle up their legs for Obama. Their legs are clearly racist.
I think Chris has restless leggy syndrome
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MichaelAsher Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:06:39pm |
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:06:51pm |
re: #14 WrathofG-d
....what are you doing, Dave......
lol. The Computer has decreed any personel belonging to a secret society or with a mutation are traitors and should be destroyed as soon as possible. All player characters in Paranoia worked for the Computer, belonged to a secret society and started with a mutation. Showing knowledge of the rules of the game was treasonous and grounds for summary execution.
Tons of fun.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:06:52pm |
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:07:50pm |
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WrathofG-d Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:08:12pm |
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:08:13pm |
THe PUMAs noticed the astroturfing story too:
[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:08:42pm |
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:08:56pm |
a big piece of chocolate cake no matter how bad that may look to obama and the various third world countries he's trying to organize against size portions for americans.
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arethusa Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:09:12pm |
re: #10 BackwardsBoy
Just killin' time here, being happy until the six o'clock news comes on. Has anybody heard of the astroturf wars going mainstream? Rush didn't mention anything that I heard of, but I've only heard bits and pieces of radio today.
Hugh Hewitt asked the McCain campaign about it earlier on a conference call. They encouraged reporters to look into it. *snickers*
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:09:30pm |
re: #30 Sharmuta
THe PUMAs noticed the astroturfing story too:
[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]
They would. Hillary was the guinea pig.
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Alouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:09:35pm |
re: #29 WrathofG-d
What that the Pali woman who blinded an Israeli soldier by throwing acid in his face?
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BrianA Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:09:58pm |
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:10:44pm |
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:11:09pm |
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zenren Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:11:17pm |
McCain closes huge gap on key question for women
Since picking Sarah Palin as his running mate, John McCain has obliterated what had been a 34-percentage-point deficit in a poll of likely women voters on the question of which candidate has a “better understanding of women and what is important” to them.
The two are now effectively tied, with McCain's 44 to 42 percentage lead within the margin of error of...
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:11:36pm |
God, now I feel like having cake. You people make my thighs fat.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:12:18pm |
re: #43 vbspurs
God, now I feel like having cake. You people make my thighs fat.
What do you mean, "you people?"
/
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WrathofG-d Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:13:03pm |
re: #36 Ben Hur
Nah, aint touched the stuff in a log log while.
re: #37 Alouette
Ha! You mean the one that used the humanitarian lane at the checkpoint to abuse the privilege, smuggle a weapon, then attack an Israel? No this wasn't it. I love how they claim there was some sort of abuse but can't actually pin any down "in a sexual manner.....but very offensive to Arab women".....but we aren't going to tell you what it is. The soldier probably touched her arm or looked at her face/hair. To a religious Muslim this is considered a sexual violation. The fact that they don't describe it tells me it was something stupid and not offensive. The rest of the whhhaaaaa is hilarious too.
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Sparkizzy Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:13:14pm |
This is the first time I've heard of astroturf being used in a non artificial-grass way. See, you can learn new things even in psychotic election cycles.
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:13:30pm |
re: #44 Silhouette
Why is happy hour always two hours long?
One hour for drinkin', another for peein'.
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BackwardsBoy Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:13:54pm |
re: #34 arethusa
Yeah, I'm sure all the reporters and lawyers in Wasilla will drop what they're doing ASAP and get right on it
/snark
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arethusa Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:14:18pm |
So the Obama campaign has released a list of 42 "probing investigations" conducted by the NYT into Obama. Here's the link.
I can't decide whether my personal fave is:
20. Seeking Unity, Obama Feels Pull of Racial Divide [New York Times, 2/12/08]
or:
24. Obama’s Narrator [New York Times, 4/1/07]
Let's have a contest!
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:14:25pm |
re: #43 vbspurs
God, now I feel like having cake. You people make my thighs fat.
uh oh.
sometimes a hazelnut cappuccino (whole milk) can substitute for cake.
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irishlas Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:14:41pm |
This is on AOL
WASHINGTON (Sept. 22) - The FBI searched the residence of the son of a Democratic state lawmaker in Tennessee over the weekend looking for evidence linking the young man to the hacking of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin's personal e-mail account, two law enforcement officials told The Associated Press on Monday.
David Kernell, 20, has not returned repeated phone calls or e-mails from the AP since last week. He is the son of state Rep. Mike Kernell, a Memphis Democrat and chairman of Tennessee's House Government Operations Committee. The father declined last week to discuss the possibility his son might be involved in the case
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Jed 1899 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:14:53pm |
re: #44 Silhouette
Happy Hour was 4-7 at the KOOOOM (Garrison on Lk George)
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:15:22pm |
re: #35 vbspurs
They would. Hillary was the guinea pig.
Yeah- there might be some digging they would want to do themselves for their girl.
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ladycatnip Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:15:31pm |
This just in: a little berg in Marin County has renamed itself "Obama".
gag.
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:15:46pm |
Chrissy just said: "Time to stop nickle-diming bubblegum and lipstick."
He really has to stop hanging around Woolworths.
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BackwardsBoy Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:15:50pm |
re: #44 Silhouette
Why is happy hour always two hours long?
It's becas alcohho, allcahll, booze makes yourlw tdoppsfm;l.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:16:20pm |
re: #58 ladycatnip
This just in: a little berg in Marin County has renamed itself "Obama".
gag.
When Obama loses, they can easliy change the name back to "Osama."
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:16:52pm |
re: #54 irishlas
Evidently the FBI traced an IP address back to him!? Happy trails to him.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:18:40pm |
re: #46 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
What do you mean, "you people?"
/
What do YOU mean, "you people"?!
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:18:42pm |
re: #58 ladycatnip
This just in: a little berg in Marin County has renamed itself "Obama".
gag.
perfect example of how it's not abt. knowing, for these idiots, it's abt. believing.
they really do think he is the messiah.
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faraway Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:18:59pm |
re: #61 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
When Obama loses, they can easliy change the name back to "Osama."
They could change it to "Racists Win"
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:19:25pm |
re: #58 ladycatnip
This just in: a little berg in Marin County has renamed itself "Obama".
gag.
Ooh, ooh! That reminds me to tell you guys that in Brazil, 6 politicians have legally changed their names to "Obama".
People thought I looked a bit like him': Brazilian politician Henrique dos Anjos has changed his name to Barack Obama
Poor guy. Still, he could've looked like Sharpton.
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faraway Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:19:45pm |
re: #62 Conservative in Liberal Hands
Evidently the FBI traced an IP address back to him!? Happy trails to him.
Is IP related to happy hour?
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:19:47pm |
re: #58 ladycatnip
This just in: a little berg in Marin County has renamed itself "Obama".
gag.
Oh why doesn't California just toss off into the ocean? Lizards will be ok, they can swim.
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Alouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:20:15pm |
re: #58 ladycatnip
This just in: a little berg in Marin County has renamed itself "Obama".
gag.
Is that Jihad Johnny Lindh's home town?
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turn Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:20:35pm |
I was stuck at the end of the last thread (again). But I am really curious about this
"I hope they throw the book at David if found guilty, sad feeling that being the son of someone politically connected won't make that very likely. Is this the guy who called himself anonymous on the C4? hacker site? If so, doesn't he have a reputation as a hacker or can just anyone call themselves anonymous? Oh, dead thread now maybe answer next time."
I would like to know if this guy supposedly has a history as a infamous hacker or not.
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Eowyn2 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:20:44pm |
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:21:19pm |
re: #70 Alouette
Is that Jihad Johnny Lindh's home town?
Indeed. Remember when George Bush called them "Marin County hotubbers"? I'm going to miss that man.
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:21:55pm |
re: #69 Walter L. Newton
Walter, I wouldn't want to p**s on anybody's parade...
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:21:56pm |
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:22:08pm |
Hey - can't get to Jawa. Is it being attacked? They are used to Jihadi DOS attacks, but perhaps the Obamatons have been unleashed (many more zombied Obama supporters out there than zombied computers).
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WrathofG-d Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:22:21pm |
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turn Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:23:01pm |
re: #61 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
When Obama loses, they can easliy change the name back to "Osama."
Or what about "hopless - everything remains the same"
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:23:16pm |
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:23:24pm |
The PUMAs even acknowledge Charles:
[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]
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faraway Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:23:37pm |
re: #77 karmic_inquisitor
Hey - can't get to Jawa. Is it being attacked? They are used to Jihadi DOS attacks, but perhaps the Obamatons have been unleashed (many more zombied Obama supporters out there than zombied computers).
I can get in. Maybe you are under attack?
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alkmyst Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:23:57pm |
Boy, am I glad that after practice I stopped on Jaffo stret to grab a sandwhich instead of walking the extra block to be at the terrorist attack by vehicle that just happened.
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:23:59pm |
re: #61 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
When Obama loses, they can easliy change the name back to "Osama."
Or "Dhimmiton"
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:24:02pm |
re: #81 Sharmuta
The PUMAs even acknowledge Charles:
[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]
Go PUMAs! The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:24:15pm |
I still cannot believe we all knew Kernell was a suspect on Thursday, but the FBI didn't search his place until Sunday.
It is stories like these that make me laugh when troofers and their like are certain the government is involved in massive secret dealings, meticulously carried out. The government can barely tie its shoelaces, much less plan secret levy-explosions or 911.
And I keep thinking Kernell had days to delete everything, but on the other hand, maybe he is as incompetent as the feds.
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Ben Hur Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:24:22pm |
re: #29 WrathofG-d
Effen Euro idiots don't realize that there are no sexual curses in Hebrew.
All curses used by Israelis are in Arabic.
Example:
In Hebrew when you say, Go f*ck yourself, you actually say, Go perform a sexual act upon yourself.
The heavy shit is only in Arabic.
So I'm sure she was shocked, SHOCKED! by what she heard.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:24:40pm |
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:25:00pm |
re: #82 faraway
I can get in. Maybe you are under attack?
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Thanks. Just got in, but couldn't for 1/2 an hour. weird.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:25:11pm |
re: #70 Alouette
Is that Jihad Johnny Lindh's home town?
Good grief! I was only joking when I said they would change the name to "Osama!" The left is really beyond parody anymore.
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Tamron Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:25:24pm |
.
Hey Zombie, check out this MAN-POWERED HYDROFOIL WATER SCOOTER. (Click on the video)
.
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redc1c4 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:25:28pm |
re: #22 zombie
I, for one, get that reference!
make that two of us, but i was thinking California uber Alles. %-)
"You will jog for the master race and always wear a happy face."
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:25:47pm |
re: #88 Occasional Reader
re: #69 Walter L. Newton
Oh why doesn't California just toss off into the ocean?
Eww.
I'm sorry.
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:26:18pm |
re: #83 alkmyst
Boy, am I glad that after practice I stopped on Jaffo stret to grab a sandwhich instead of walking the extra block to be at the terrorist attack by vehicle that just happened.
Gulp!
I had to read that twice. Luck or someone was on your side.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:26:34pm |
re: #79 turn
Or what about "hopless - everything remains the same"
Hopless is how I feel - I can't afford any hops to make a new batch of beer!
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turn Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:26:46pm |
re: #69 Walter L. Newton
Oh why doesn't California just toss off into the ocean? Lizards will be ok, they can swim.
I actually love living in California Walter, much more than I would Colorado. If you could toss the left into the ocean and leave the land the way it is that would be fine with me. :.)
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:27:31pm |
re: #86 Silhouette
He explained exactly what he had done, and he used a known email address.
Someone said he might as well have called the FBI himself.
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:27:37pm |
re: #99 alkmyst
Yeah, I'm thanking Hashem right now
I've nothing but respect for those citizens that stopped him from further evil.
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newsjunkie_ky Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:28:11pm |
FNC going to do story on the hacker in a few.
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turn Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:28:28pm |
re: #97 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Hopless is how I feel - I can't afford any hops to make a new batch of beer!
Hey, you really a home brewer?
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:29:17pm |
Astroturf update :
Jared Liu-Klein (aka "stckyfngz") hangs up on Weekly Standard
Jared Liu-Klein, the employee of Publicis' Winner & Associates who we believe is DU member "stckyfngz" and who we believe helped in the astroturfing campaign against Sarah Palin got a phone call from the Weekely Standard. He didn't deny he was "stckyfngz" and then he hung up. Weekly Standard:
I just spoke with Liu-Klein on the phone and asked him about the matter, but he said that he would have to get back to me later. I gave him my email address and asked if he could give me a simple yes or no answer if he had ever posted a video on the Internet about Sarah Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party. Liu-Klein replied: "I'll have to get back to you as soon as I can." Then he hung up the phone. I'll post Liu-Klein's response if and when I get it.Hmmmm.......
It seems that the interwebs connection for Jawa has been going up and down all day, so I reproduced the post here.
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:29:33pm |
re: #91 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Good grief! I was only joking when I said they would change the name to "Osama!" The left is really beyond parody anymore
My neighbour named her new puppy "Palin", though. She's a PUMA (which accounts for being a little off the deep end).
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faraway Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:29:43pm |
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Pullus Iulius Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:29:45pm |
re: #58 ladycatnip
This just in: a little berg in Marin County has renamed itself "Obama".
gag.
There's a beautiful little town in the Shenandoah Valley that named itself Van Burenville. But after Little Van lost the election, they decided Orkney Springs sounded a lot better.
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turn Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:30:04pm |
re: #86 Silhouette
I still cannot believe we all knew Kernell was a suspect on Thursday, but the FBI didn't search his place until Sunday.
It is stories like these that make me laugh when troofers and their like are certain the government is involved in massive secret dealings, meticulously carried out. The government can barely tie its shoelaces, much less plan secret levy-explosions or 911.
And I keep thinking Kernell had days to delete everything, but on the other hand, maybe he is as incompetent as the feds.
Maybe it took them a while to get a search warrant?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:30:08pm |
re: #103 turn
Hey, you really a home brewer?
In theory, yes. In practice, I haven't brewed in over a year.
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Eowyn2 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:31:07pm |
re: #33 nyc redneck
a big piece of chocolate cake no matter how bad that may look to obama and the various third world countries he's trying to organize against size portions for americans.
community organizing
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:31:16pm |
re: #107 Pullus Iulius
There's a beautiful little town in the Shenandoah Valley that named itself Van Burenville. But after Little Van lost the election, they decided Orkney Springs sounded a lot better.
If Obama wins, I am going to ask the Poway city council to rename our town to "We're so screwed."
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:31:19pm |
re: #95 Walter L. Newton
Y'know, I live here. I was even born here. My Male is 4th generation Californian. Many of my friends are multi-generation Californians.
The problem does not lie with us, it lies with the folks the rest of the country sends us.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:31:49pm |
re: #109 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
In theory, yes.
Well, shoot, in theory I'm Adriana Lima's personal massage therapist.
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alkmyst Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:32:04pm |
re: #101 Silhouette
I've nothing but respect for those citizens that stopped him from further evil.
I think it was actually a soldier - but probably because the driver (a resident of East Jerusalem) drove into a crowd of mainly soldiers... I did see a whole lot of civilians, or off duty soldiers running towards it when I heard it, tho.
Seeing as I'm not a medic, and the state doesn't see fit to allow me the precaution of defending myself with a firearm, I stayed and finished my sandwich
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turn Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:32:14pm |
re: #109 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
In theory, yes. In practice, I haven't brewed in over a year.
My problem as well, takes too much time. If you could ever get to the 15-20 gal at a time payback would be there. But then again I would probably end up ruining 20 gals instead of 5.
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jaunte Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:32:33pm |
re: #104 karmic_inquisitor
Sounds like Jared has not finished consulting with his attorney(s).
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Occasional Reader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:32:45pm |
re: #109 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
In practice, I haven't brewed in over a year.
Ever since what happened over Macho Grande?
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faraway Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:32:47pm |
If Obama wins, we will change the name of our town to "Canada". Come see us.
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WrathofG-d Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:34:21pm |
re: #80 Conservative in Liberal Hands
Reminds me of the tree people.
They claim on their website that they are going to go "test" the IDF, and peform and "action". So they go and direct their boat right at an IDF ship, in Israeli waters. Then the IDF fires warning shots, and tells them to turn around....so, of course, they scream "we are internationals" as if somehow being a pain in the ass terrorist supporter from out of country, is inherently superior than being a pain in the ass terrorist supporter from within country.
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redc1c4 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:34:35pm |
re: #104 karmic_inquisitor
Astroturf update :
It seems that the interwebs connection for Jawa has been going up and down all day, so I reproduced the post here.
Ace of Spades & Patterico are both iffy from where i am too..... mega traffic?
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:34:52pm |
re: #114 alkmyst
Seeing as I'm not a medic, and the state doesn't see fit to allow me the precaution of defending myself with a firearm, I stayed and finished my sandwich
I thought all could carry there. Would you mind outlining the limitations/requirements for my curiousity?
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:34:56pm |
John McCain wearing an apron BBQing, on the Rachael Ray show. Clinton on The View saying he "genuinely" admires both candidates.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:35:01pm |
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turn Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:35:35pm |
re: #112 Dianna
Y'know, I live here. I was even born here. My Male is 4th generation Californian. Many of my friends are multi-generation Californians.
The problem does not lie with us, it lies with the folks the rest of the country sends us.
Right on, nearly the same with me. Look at a fricking voter registration map people, it's mainly LA and SF counties that are ruining the state. The heartland is solid republican.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:35:48pm |
re: #112 Dianna
Y'know, I live here. I was even born here. My Male is 4th generation Californian. Many of my friends are multi-generation Californians.
The problem does not lie with us, it lies with the folks the rest of the country sends us.
Yea, I know. And then we you are done with them, someone sends them to Colorado. Stop that:)
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Slumbering Behemoth Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:36:09pm |
re: #69 Walter L. Newton
Oh why doesn't California just toss off into the ocean? Lizards will be ok, they can swim.
You seem share the same opinion as this band. Good company, I guess. If you're a nihilist.
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:36:16pm |
re: #113 Occasional Reader
Well, shoot, in theory I'm Adriana Lima's personal massage therapist.
LOL!
On that note, I'm about to go out and buy some cake. TTFN guys!
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Sparkizzy Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:36:33pm |
The lib commenters at Slate aren't happy that Hitchens is spoiling their magazine.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:36:35pm |
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:36:36pm |
re: #120 redc1c4
Ace of Spades & Patterico are both iffy from where i am too..... mega traffic?
Mega traffic or the hipper than thou thought police in Santa Clara have fired up the speech suppression machines.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:37:04pm |
re: #117 Occasional Reader
Ever since what happened over Macho Grande?
I'll never get over Macho Grande.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:37:06pm |
re: #122 vbspurs
John McCain wearing an apron BBQing, on the Rachael Ray show. Clinton on The View saying he "genuinely" admires both candidates.
I know he's got the hots for Palin.
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faraway Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:37:16pm |
My daughter told me today that she has noticed many McCain signs in yards, but no Obama signs.
I told her liberals don't own homes.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:37:39pm |
re: #126 Slumbering Behemoth
You seem share the same opinion as this band. Good company, I guess. If you're a nihilist.
/
"He doesn't care. He's a nihilist."
"It must be exhausting."
/The Big Lebowski
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turn Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:37:53pm |
BBT, Time to go walk the lab along CALIFORNIA's American River!
/sorry Walter, couldn't resist.
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:38:02pm |
re: #132 Walter L. Newton
I know he's got the hots for Palin.
Shorter list: women Bill doesn't have the hots for.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:38:14pm |
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Alaska Kim Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:38:26pm |
Hi y'all! Have any of you guys used Chantix for quitting smoking?
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:38:27pm |
re: #131 Kosh's Shadow
I'll never get over Macho Grande.
Ted Striker: My orders came through. My squadron ships out tomorrow. We're bombing the storage depots at Daiquiri at 1800 hours. We're coming in from the north, below their radar.
Elaine Dickinson: When will you be back?
Ted Striker: I can't tell you that. It's classified.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:38:57pm |
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:39:20pm |
re: #133 faraway
My daughter told me today that she has noticed many McCain signs in yards, but no Obama signs.
I told her liberals don't own homes.
Maybe it is like the thing where LLL don't "own" pets. Instead they have companion animals.
They have companion domiciles.
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Typicalwhitey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:39:22pm |
Anyone seen the new NRA ads that are out?
Good stuff.
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Slumbering Behemoth Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:39:38pm |
re: #112 Dianna
The problem does not lie with us, it lies with the folks the rest of the country sends us.
When I was a wee one back in the '70s, one of the more popular bumper-stickers I often saw was "Welcome to California, now go home".
I'd like to see that one make a come back, but I guess it would be deemed racist now.
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:39:47pm |
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:39:56pm |
re: #135 turn
BBT, Time to go walk the lab along CALIFORNIA's American River! /sorry Walter, couldn't resist.
All I have to do is get into the car, a one hour trip west of here, and I'll take a pee in AMERICA's River. Tell the lab not to drink the water.
/
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:40:10pm |
re: #125 Walter L. Newton
Turn about is fair play!*
*Or foreplay. Given the use of the word "Californication", I reserve the right to use foreplay in context.
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:40:16pm |
Update from the campaign trail. Obama has just commented on the oppressed BMW that struck down 15 pedestrians in Jerusalem today:
"I call on BMWs to restrain themselves from striking pedestrians and I call on Jewish pedestrians to not further impede the momentum of German Engineering."
/
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3 wood Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:40:34pm |
In other news, the market dropped like a rock today because of a very poorly thought through "short sale ban" by the government. Options traders can still create short sales, for instance, which is a loop hole in the the ban, which made it a rigged game. So, your normal big buyers of these stocks walked away from the market and will not put their money in play until the game is no longer rigged.
Best way to fix this glitch is reinstitute the "uptick rule" enforce it, and get rid of the ban. You will see the market jump 400 to 500 points if that is done.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:41:01pm |
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vagabond trader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:41:37pm |
re: #58 ladycatnip
We've renamed something in our house "Obama" but I can't say in mixed company.
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:41:48pm |
re: #130 karmic_inquisitor
Why Santa Clara? I'm confused. Ace is on mu.nu - which I think isn't US based?
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3 wood Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:41:53pm |
Also, oil jumped today in the spot market due to timing, but the futures contract is not up this much.
Look for a pull back in oil prices tomorrow.
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:42:02pm |
re: #72 Eowyn2
"hey honey, whatcha hidin under that burka?"
I like loose folds of shapeless cloth
Just like a candle to my moth
When a girl walks by in a lumpy sack
And I can't tell front from back
I get sprung!
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zombie Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:42:04pm |
re: #94 redc1c4
make that two of us, but i was thinking California uber Alles. %-)
"You will jog for the master race and always wear a happy face."
That's exactly what I was thinking of as well!
There was a conspiracy theory running around LGF a couple years back that I was Jello Biafra or some other member of the Dead Kennedys, because I seemed to know a little too much about the band. Had to really squelch that one!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:42:30pm |
re: #143 Slumbering Behemoth
When
I was a wee one back in the '70s, one of the more popular
bumper-stickers I often saw was "Welcome to California, now go home".I'd like to see that one make a come back, but I guess it would be deemed racist now.
I've seen a few my way: "Virginia is for lovers, New Jersey is for Masocists"
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:42:34pm |
re: #147 karmic_inquisitor
It was a BMW? More of that "poverty that causes terrorism", I see.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:42:36pm |
re: #150 vagabond trader
We've renamed something in our house "Obama" but I can't say in mixed company.
We're not mixed, just stirred...now you can tell us...
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:43:06pm |
re: #138 Alaska Kim
Hi y'all! Have any of you guys used Chantix for quitting smoking?
Nope. I used respiratory distress. Worked like a charm!
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:43:21pm |
re: #150 vagabond trader
We've renamed something in our house "Obama" but I can't say in mixed company.
My nickname for the US if Barry wins can't be said in polite company. Lets just say it rhymes with "Scucking Fewed."
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:43:23pm |
re: #149 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I'm disappointed in you. I expected a picture of Hillary. ;-)
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vagabond trader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:43:26pm |
re: #132 Walter L. Newton
Sarah would shoot the Cuban out of his crooked mouth.
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Alaska Kim Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:43:56pm |
re: #159 Dianna
Nope. I used respiratory distress. Worked like a charm!
That seemed to work for my dad too!
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:44:50pm |
re: #149 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I just knew I was gonna' be looking at a photograph of Helen Thomas.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:44:54pm |
re: #154 zombie
That's exactly what I was thinking of as well!
There was a conspiracy theory running around LGF a couple years back that I was Jello Biafra or some other member of the Dead Kennedys, because I seemed to know a little too much about the band. Had to really squelch that one!
I work with someone who DOES (or did) know Jello Biafra, and said he had played bass in the Dead Kennedys when their regular player needed a break.
The guy is a total moonbat, posts on Kos, etc. You can tell his car - it has the Edwards sticker, the one with the last date Bush will be in office, and probably an 0bama one now.
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:45:25pm |
re: #154 zombie
That's exactly what I was thinking of as well!
There was a conspiracy theory running around LGF a couple years back that I was Jello Biafra or some other member of the Dead Kennedys, because I seemed to know a little too much about the band. Had to really squelch that one!
I'd have loved it if you were!
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Occasional Reader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:45:34pm |
re: #153 stuiec
I like loose folds of shapeless cloth
Just like a candle to my moth
When a girl walks by in a lumpy sack
And I can't tell front from back
I get sprung!
"Baby Got Nakba"?
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vagabond trader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:45:47pm |
re: #138 Alaska Kim
A fella I do business with, heavy smoker, used it almost two years ago and he has not smoked since.
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:46:44pm |
re: #163 Alaska Kim
That seemed to work for my dad too!
Yeah, it only took three life-threatening incidents. Granted, the first was pneumonia, but still.
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:47:10pm |
re: #151 Dianna
Why Santa Clara? I'm confused. Ace is on mu.nu - which I think isn't US based?
I guess I singled out Santa Clara out as the HQ for the"hipper than thou thought police" because it is the epicenter of the Silicon Valley, which is filled with ego-drunken geeks who see no problem with destroying liberal ideas in order to impose them on others as a "progressive order". Coulda been Palo Alto or Cupertino.
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:47:13pm |
Mr. Silhouette and Mother both used Chantix. Mr. Silhouette said it did great at stopping his urges to smoke. The problem was that he really didn't want to be a non-smoker, and went back. Mother, on the other hand, just quit in 3 weeks after smoking 2 packs a day for almost 50 years. She is approaching one year smoke-free.
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Alaska Kim Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:47:20pm |
re: #168 vagabond trader
A fella I do business with, heavy smoker, used it almost two years ago and he has not smoked since.
That's good to hear.
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:47:29pm |
re: #159 Dianna
Nope. I used respiratory distress. Worked like a charm!
Had that diagnosed for my last 3 years in the Marines, all they gave me was Albuterol and I coughed 8 months out of the year, said I was allergic to something in NC. I get out and move to CA, same deal. Civilian doctor says it asthma and I got medicine that worked. Barely cough at all now.
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pegcity Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:47:57pm |
re: #148 3 wood
In other news, the market dropped like a rock today because of a very poorly thought through "short sale ban" by the government. Options traders can still create short sales, for instance, which is a loop hole in the the ban, which made it a rigged game. So, your normal big buyers of these stocks walked away from the market and will not put their money in play until the game is no longer rigged.
Best way to fix this glitch is reinstitute the "uptick rule" enforce it, and get rid of the ban. You will see the market jump 400 to 500 points if that is done.
if i have to get a license dealing with options or futures which would you recommend getting first?
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Eowyn2 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:47:58pm |
re: #125 Walter L. Newton
Yea, I know. And then we you are done with them, someone sends them to Colorado. Stop that:)
and Montana
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Occasional Reader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:48:20pm |
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Alaska Kim Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:48:28pm |
re: #169 Dianna
Yeah, it only took three life-threatening incidents. Granted, the first was pneumonia, but still.
What life-threatening incidents? If you don't mind my asking....
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vagabond trader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:48:55pm |
re: #172 Alaska Kim
He doesn't appear to have gained any significant weight, but his sense of humor is not quite as sharp. Not blaming the Chantix, but, hey....
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Eowyn2 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:49:16pm |
re: #153 stuiec
I like loose folds of shapeless cloth
Just like a candle to my moth
When a girl walks by in a lumpy sack
And I can't tell front from back
I get sprung!
you owe me a new keyboard.
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:49:17pm |
re: #170 karmic_inquisitor
Sometime, you and I need to have a chat!
For instance, I'll invite you to dinner at our place, in San Jose, and introduce you to the people who aren't like that. Which happens to be a very substantial group.
Remember: Google (biggest hypocrites on the web) are based in San Francisco.
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alkmyst Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:49:46pm |
re: #121 Silhouette
Well, mainly they usually only give licenses to people who live in "hot zones" meaning closer to arab neighborhoods, or out in the settlements for example...
I should have been able to get one thru my business without trouble, except for that once 3 some years ago while I was in the states someone did something stupid involving a plant at my apartment and now I have a police file because of it. Kindof annoying really, now I have to be that much more prepared hand to hand...
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:49:47pm |
re: #159 Dianna
Nope. I used respiratory distress. Worked like a charm!
Love it. I just stopped smoking 3 weeks ago. I didn't use anything. Just stopped. Doctor wanted me to help out my BP before the hernia operation.
I was a 2 plus pack a day, over 40 years. Love it, probably still would, but when I decide to stop something, I just do.
One thing I discovered is that I DO NOT try to remove the trigger points in my life. I LOVED to smoke with a diet drink and sitting at the computer, on LGF, hours on end. Well, I decided not to stop that, otherwise it would just be harder on myself.
Otherwise, those triggers, if you take them away, will just hid, waiting for you during a weak time. You have to learn to just keep doing what you like to do, minus the butts.
That's what's working for me.
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SummerSong Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:50:24pm |
re: #124 turn
Orange County, CA is "America's most Republican county".
[Link: www.ocgop.org...]
Don't hate us because we're beautiful. :)
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:50:35pm |
re: #173 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Had that diagnosed for my last 3 years in the Marines, all they gave me was Albuterol and I coughed 8 months out of the year, said I was allergic to something in NC. I get out and move to CA, same deal. Civilian doctor says it asthma and I got medicine that worked. Barely cough at all now.
Are you using combivent? I happen to really prefer it to plain Alburterol (aka "shakiness in a can").
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redc1c4 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:50:53pm |
re: #154 zombie
That's exactly what I was thinking of as well!
There was a conspiracy theory running around LGF a couple years back that I was Jello Biafra or some other member of the Dead Kennedys, because I seemed to know a little too much about the band. Had to really squelch that one!
you mean you're not? %-)
sidebar: my friend's band, GFI, is opening for Agent Orange & Fear at the SD HOB this coming sunday.....
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littleO Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:51:05pm |
There is a headline on Drudge about who is at fault (greater fault) concerning the financial meltdown.
It's from Bloomberg. com.With commentary by Kevin Hassett.
Many will find it somewhat illuminating. Of course, the real problem goes back much further.
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:51:09pm |
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JeremiahRight Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:51:25pm |
re: #126 Slumbering Behemoth
You seem share the same opinion as this band. Good company, I guess. If you're a nihilist.
/
Awesome! One of my all time favorites. For those who dont know the words:
Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks
Here in this hopeless f*cking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any f*cking time. Any f*cking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.
Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and
Fret for your car.
It's a
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks
Here in this hopeless f*cking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any f*cking time. Any f*cking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.
Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.
Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will cuz
I sure could use a vacation from this
Silly shit, stupid shit...
One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.
Learn to swim.
Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be.
Learn to swim.
F*ck L Ron Hubbard and
F*ck all his clones.
F*ck all those gun-toting
Hip gangster wannabes.
Learn to swim.
F*ck retro anything.
F*ck your tattoos.
F*ck all you junkies and
F*ck your short memory.
Learn to swim.
F*ck smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas.
F*ck these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses.
Learn to swim.
Cuz I'm praying for rain
And I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.
I wanna watch it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.
Time to bring it down again.
Don't just call me pessimist.
Try and read between the lines.
I can't imagine why you wouldn't
Welcome any change, my friend.
I wanna see it all come down.
suck it down.
flush it down.
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Eowyn2 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:51:39pm |
re: #171 Silhouette
Mr. Silhouette and Mother both used Chantix. Mr. Silhouette said it did great at stopping his urges to smoke. The problem was that he really didn't want to be a non-smoker, and went back. Mother, on the other hand, just quit in 3 weeks after smoking 2 packs a day for almost 50 years. She is approaching one year smoke-free.
Wish me luck, I start the journey on Wednesday. I turn 50 tomorrow so I am just going to wait until wednesday. Lots of alcohol, tobacco and firearms tomorrow. Okay, no weapons. bowling balls.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:52:08pm |
Good Afternoon, Lizard Nation.
Via Hot Air
Which convention drew independents?
Voters not yet committed to either candidate were 12% more engaged by TV coverage of the GOP convention than the Democratic convention, according to an analysis released Monday by Nielsen IAG. …
John McCain’s acceptance speech on September 4 drew the most attentive audience of uncommitted viewers, Nielsen reported. Telecasts of Barack Obama’s and Sarah Palin’s acceptance speeches on August 28 and September 3, respectively, tied in second place as the second most engaging telecasts among uncommitted viewers.
Overall, viewers were more engaged by the telecasts of the RNC vs. the DNC. Registered voters were 10% more engaged by the RNC than the DNC, while likely voters were 12% more engaged in RNC viewing.
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Alaska Kim Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:53:05pm |
re: #184 Walter L. Newton
Love
it. I just stopped smoking 3 weeks ago. I didn't use anything. Just
stopped. Doctor wanted me to help out my BP before the hernia
operation.I was a 2 plus pack a day, over 40 years. Love it, probably still would, but when I decide to stop something, I just do.
One
thing I discovered is that I DO NOT try to remove the trigger points in
my life. I LOVED to smoke with a diet drink and sitting at the
computer, on LGF, hours on end. Well, I decided not to stop that,
otherwise it would just be harder on myself.Otherwise, those
triggers, if you take them away, will just hid, waiting for you during
a weak time. You have to learn to just keep doing what you like to do,
minus the butts.That's what's working for me.
It's a vicious circle! I have quit smoking using the patch, the patch was wonderful. but that was before my BP went through the roof, and now i'm on BP meds. So if i use the patch, my BP goes nuts, but it is really the only thing that has worked for me.
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:53:12pm |
re: #165 Kosh's Shadow
I work with someone who DOES (or did) know Jello Biafra, and said he had played bass in the Dead Kennedys when their regular player needed a break.
The guy is a total moonbat, posts on Kos, etc. You can tell his car - it has the Edwards sticker, the one with the last date Bush will be in office, and probably an 0bama one now.
Sad.
I saw the DKs as anti fascist back in the 80s.
Punk back then railed on hippies. I went to a Black Flag concert in San Luis Obispo where Rollins showed up in dreadlocks and the skin heads started yelling "hippie!" at him. Turned into a riot. Cops with riot gear and everything. IIRC it was 1985.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:53:16pm |
re: #191 Eowyn2
Wish me luck, I start the journey on Wednesday. I turn 50 tomorrow so I am just going to wait until wednesday. Lots of alcohol, tobacco and firearms tomorrow. Okay, no weapons. bowling balls.
Good luck, Eowyn, and may you have success. Perhaps it's time for me to quit, too, after 36 years...and Happy Birthday!
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Windhorse Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:53:19pm |
A Democrat friend of mine sent this to me and is in a tizzy about it....
This clause seems like the only way to keep this out of court for years and years while everyone and their brother whines about it. (I have a deadline to meet and cannot pause to fully contemplate this.... has this already been discussed?
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neocon hippie Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:54:03pm |
re: #58 ladycatnip
After all, this is the locale of "Hippie From Olema", a parody of "Okie from Muskogee".
While "Obama" is a tiny town, it is the gateway from the more populated areas of Marin, and hence from the entire Bay Area, to the beautiful Point Reyes National Seashore, so the sign will get a lot of viewings.
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:54:10pm |
re: #183 alkmyst
Thanks.
And your shorthand about the plant was hilarious. It made it sound like they assaulted a fern.
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livefreeor die Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:54:24pm |
re: #34 arethusa
Hugh Hewitt asked the McCain campaign about it earlier on a conference call. They encouraged reporters to look into it. *snickers*
I e-mailed Greta Van Susteren's blog at Foxnews. We need to bombard media people who might actually pay attention to this and start talking about it.
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cygnus Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:54:26pm |
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UFO TOFU Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:54:30pm |
re: #171 Silhouette
Is that prescription?
/Smoker in the smoggiest area of California
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:54:37pm |
re: #186 Dianna
Are you using combivent? I happen to really prefer it to plain Alburterol (aka "shakiness in a can").
Just got the Albuterol for a rescue inhaler now. Was on seravent for a little while due to high inflamation, now I just get advair during my really bad seasons.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:55:07pm |
re: #194 karmic_inquisitor
Sad.
I saw the DKs as anti fascist back in the 80s.
Punk
back then railed on hippies. I went to a Black Flag concert in San Luis
Obispo where Rollins showed up in dreadlocks and the skin heads started
yelling "hippie!" at him. Turned into a riot. Cops with riot gear and
everything. IIRC it was 1985.
All the punks are going to scream "Yippie!"
It's The Thing That Only Eats Hippies!
-Dead Milkmen
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FrogMarch Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:55:08pm |
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:55:47pm |
re: #178 Alaska Kim
What life-threatening incidents? If you don't mind my asking....
In February of 1999, I developed a very severe case of pneumonia. I'd never been that heavy a smoker, and I'd never really had any problem with it, so after I recovered, I smoked again.
In 2007, what started as an allergy attack became bronchitis, and then I had a bronchial spasm which sent me to the ER.
I should have quit that time, because (frankly) ever since, if I smoked more than 5 cigarettes in a day (which I did when I was stressed, and I get stressed) I coughed for days afterwards.
Last Tuesday, while fighting bronchitis, I had another bronchial spasm - the worst I've ever had. Again, a visit to the ER.
This time, since I haven't had a cigarette in two weeks and counting, I'm quitting and staying quit.
All my life, if I get upset, I have gotten short of breath. It's not asthma, it's all psychological. I'm interested in seeing how that works out with not smoking.
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lifeofthemind Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:55:55pm |
Good Day, Good Afternoon, Good Evening
I've never seen a man get through a day so fast.
- fm: Cat Ballou
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:56:28pm |
re: #132 Walter L. Newton
I know he's got the hots for Palin.
I don't think so, her ankles are too thin.
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alkmyst Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:57:38pm |
re: #158 Eowyn2
Much appreciated - it was funny, as I was walking past the block it happened on I overheard a group of people speaking English, pointed in the direction they came from and asked if that was where it happened, and they said yeah, if I wanted to go check it out. I told them I wasn't a medic, to which one guy responded, "not a voyeur?" I simply said to him that I've seen enough of this shit, and didn't want to get in the way of the professionals.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:57:43pm |
re: #140 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I'm ashamed to say that I never saw Airplane II.
I'm ashamed to say that I did.
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:58:03pm |
re: #191 Eowyn2
Lots of luck, Winny. I have never smoked so I can't appreciate the journey, but I've seen others make it so I know you can.
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Alaska Kim Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:58:42pm |
re: #206 Dianna
Two weeks without one? That's great! I haven't had one since last night. It is tough. But I'm 42, and if i don't quit now, I don't think I ever will. The hard part is that my husband smokes, and won't even THINK of quitting.
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:58:59pm |
re: #191 Eowyn2
Wish me luck, I start the journey on Wednesday. I turn 50 tomorrow so I am just going to wait until wednesday. Lots of alcohol, tobacco and firearms tomorrow. Okay, no weapons. bowling balls.
Turning fifty, eh?
Before you quit smoking, schedule and have your sigmoidoscopy.
Then tell yourself when you quit smoking the next day that no tobacco means less likelihood of having another sigmoidoscopy sooner (due to a cancer scare). Should be a good additional motivator.
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alkmyst Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:59:06pm |
re: #199 Silhouette
From the phone call I got when that happened, it sounded to me like they brought in 4 too many guys with guns drawn to assault the fern :-)
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debutaunt Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:59:23pm |
re: #111 karmic_inquisitor
If Obama wins, I am going to ask the Poway city council to rename our town to "We're so screwed."
Is it pronounced Po-way or Pow-way?
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faraway Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:59:47pm |
I have tried to stop reading LGF.
Is there a patch or some medication that I can take?
I have tried vodka and pain killers, but they don't work.
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rain of lead Mon, Sep 22, 2008 2:59:57pm |
re: #205 FrogMarch
Stinkyweaselteets sings "I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs".
"I don't think your happy enough"
I'll teach you to be happy"
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:00:02pm |
re: #181 Dianna
Sometime, you and I need to have a chat!
For instance, I'll invite you to dinner at our place, in San Jose, and introduce you to the people who aren't like that. Which happens to be a very substantial group.
Remember: Google (biggest hypocrites on the web) are based in San Francisco.
I was raised in San Mateo and go up to the Bay Area for business fairly regularly. It seems like a mass of uniform minded wanabees to me. I come across "subversives" from time to time who have lived in the area for a long time and have become conservative. But the dominant flow is conforming noobies fitting in by being the loudest at the torch parades of enthusiasm for the latest "progressive" rant/cause.
One thing did strike me on a recent trip - went up to the UCSC campus. Complete transformation. Not just the new buildings, but the students. They don't look like the Che and Mao wanabes anymore. Some looked like they were there to get a *gasp* education. I was stunned - the place used to look like a living history town a la Williamsburg, but recreating Hait-Ashbury.
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:00:12pm |
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:00:26pm |
Southlake Hummer vandal: "I confess, I'm a moonbat!"
He's a dues-paying member of the Sierra Club and Greenpeace.
We just got our hands on a copy of the five-page arrest warrant for James Andrew Jeppe in the Southlake Hummer vandalism case. The warrant sheds new light on Mr. Jeppe's motive and indicates the Sept. 5 incident was not his first time leaving his mark on one of the sport utility vehicles.
Mr. Jeppe, 72, turned himself in to authorities Friday on charges he vandalized a high school student's Hummer in the Carroll Senior High School parking lot. The incident was recorded on the Hummer's motion-activated surveillance cameras...
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Slumbering Behemoth Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:00:40pm |
re: #190 JeremiahRight
Bit of trivia for ya: "Arizona Bay" was the name of Bill Hicks' band as well as one of his comedy albums.
Tool borrows heavily from Hicks' stand-up routines.
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lifeofthemind Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:00:55pm |
re: #218 debutaunt
Is it pronounced Po-way or Pow-way?
If Obama gets in they'd have to call it Poor-way.
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3 wood Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:01:09pm |
re: #174 pegcity
if i have to get a license dealing with options or futures which would you recommend getting first?
Options.
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cygnus Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:01:15pm |
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sparrowlake Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:01:30pm |
re: #213 Alaska Kim
Two weeks without one? That's great! I haven't had one since last night. It is tough. But I'm 42, and if i don't quit now, I don't think I ever will. The hard part is that my husband smokes, and won't even THINK of quitting.
Get rid of him. LOL.
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:01:32pm |
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:01:46pm |
re: #193 Alaska Kim
It's a vicious circle! I have quit smoking using the patch, the patch was wonderful. but that was before my BP went through the roof, and now i'm on BP meds. So if i use the patch, my BP goes nuts, but it is really the only thing that has worked for me.
Well my suggestion is to run at least a mile a day..
By weeks end you'll either quit smoking or die..
but at least you won't ever smoke again..
/teasing you Kim :)
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MacGregor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:01:46pm |
In the New World, happiness is enforced.
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:01:48pm |
re: #219 faraway
I have tried to stop reading LGF.
Is there a patch or some medication that I can take?
I have tried vodka and pain killers, but they don't work.
You can try LOLCATS, but it just isn't the same.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:01:54pm |
re: #185 SummerSong
Orange County, CA is "America's most Republican county".
[Link: www.ocgop.org...]
Don't hate us because we're beautiful. :)
That's because all the illegals in San Diego vote Dem.
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Alaska Kim Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:02:09pm |
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:02:17pm |
re: #218 debutaunt
Is it pronounced Po-way or Pow-way?
It's the latter. The city was devastated in the So Cal fires a couple of years ago.
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:02:27pm |
re: #231 MacGregor
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Easiest way to improve the group's morale is dispose of all the unhappy people.
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alkmyst Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:02:32pm |
re: #191 Eowyn2
I was thinking about quitting smoking the other day, then I watched Dennis Leary for an hour and a half.
I'll be back in about 5 minutes...
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:02:38pm |
re: #218 debutaunt
Is it pronounced Po-way or Pow-way?
Pow-way.
But there is a very small set of high brows that go with Po wee (the name has aboriginal roots). They give up when locals look at them funny. We keep our moonbats on a short leash.
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debutaunt Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:02:46pm |
re: #131 Kosh's Shadow
I'll never get over Macho Grande.
Is that a 'manly' coffee drink at Starbucks?
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rain of lead Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:02:58pm |
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:03:39pm |
re: #213 Alaska Kim
Two weeks without one? That's great! I haven't had one since last night. It is tough. But I'm 42, and if i don't quit now, I don't think I ever will. The hard part is that my husband smokes, and won't even THINK of quitting.
I don't know what to say about the husband part of it. My Male likes a cigar, but he's promised to not have any for a while. I don't think that's necessary; if I can't get over the craving, I'll talk to my doctor.
One thing that helps a bit? Pom - the pomegranate stuff. For some reason, it whacks the craving down a bit. I have no idea why; I usually hate the stuff.
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:03:52pm |
re: #233 CyanSnowHawk
That's because all the illegals in San Diego vote Dem.
Well thats just because the Dems give them stuff and bus them to the polls.
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Alaska Kim Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:04:15pm |
re: #230 HoosierHoops
Good tip!
That's another reason I want to quit. I want to start running. I walk 2 miles a day, but I need something more.
And holy crap! Smokes are expensive up here. $6 a pack.
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3 wood Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:05:19pm |
re: #177 Occasional Reader
re: #148 3 wood
Best way to fix this glitch is reinstitute the "uptick rule"
Which is...?
Sorry to be so pedantic.
The uptick rule is where you can not close out a short sale position (buy the stock back from the market) until the price ticks up wards in the market.
That keeps unfettered bashing of stocks with false rumors and such from happening to force the stock price down. About 2 years ago the SEC discontinued the uptick rule, and the market has gotten a lot more volatile every since.
A lot of stocks are very underpriced right now, but the buyers are going to sit on the sidelines until the rules get straightened out.
If I was in charge of the SEC I'd have this fixed in 48 hours. It's so frustrating to sit here and watch these morons screw around with this.
They've done the heavy work already, the rest if it is just details.
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:05:45pm |
re: #223 Ward Cleaver
Southlake Hummer vandal: "I confess, I'm a moonbat!"
He's a dues-paying member of the Sierra Club and Greenpeace.
Hell, those assholes in the UK caused like $50k in damages to a powerplant and got off arguing they did it because of global warming. This asshole could walk.
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:05:53pm |
re: #221 karmic_inquisitor
Well, next time we throw a gathering, I'll make sure you get an invitation!
You'll like it. Barflies and lizards united, good food, and the conversation is great.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:06:06pm |
re: #243 buzzsawmonkey
The notion that one's own strongly-held beliefs entitle one to vandalize the property of others or otherwise interfere in their lives is disturbingly prevalent, and growing more so.
He said he doesn't like their carbon footprint. WAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
When first confronted by the cops, he told them he must have a twin.
Yeah right.
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Alaska Kim Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:06:09pm |
re: #241 Dianna
I don't know what to say about the husband
part of it. My Male likes a cigar, but he's promised to not have any
for a while. I don't think that's necessary; if I can't get over the
craving, I'll talk to my doctor.One thing that helps a bit?
Pom - the pomegranate stuff. For some reason, it whacks the craving
down a bit. I have no idea why; I usually hate the stuff.
Pom? I love that stuff. Expensive but good.
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lifeofthemind Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:06:10pm |
Rally at the UN today. Mostly HS students, some College students, about 400 Canadians, Eh?
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:06:31pm |
re: #223 Ward Cleaver
Southlake Hummer vandal: "I confess, I'm a moonbat!"
He's a dues-paying member of the Sierra Club and Greenpeace.
He's old enough to know better!
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:06:46pm |
re: #244 Alaska Kim
And holy crap! Smokes are expensive up here. $6 a pack.
It hurts Mr. Silhouette to pay $4-$5 or whatever a pack, when he can see tobacco growing in the field beside the store.
SHouldn't it be cheaper here? ;-)
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rain of lead Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:06:56pm |
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:07:04pm |
re: #243 buzzsawmonkey
The notion that one's own strongly-held beliefs entitle one to vandalize the property of others or otherwise interfere in their lives is disturbingly prevalent, and growing more so.
My strongly held beliefs entail beating anyone who vandalizes my property or interferes with my life. Think it will work?
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Slumbering Behemoth Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:07:34pm |
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:07:42pm |
re: #218 debutaunt
Is it pronounced Po-way or Pow-way?
Pow-way.
I'm sitting there right now, having not gone to work today as my Son and I both have mild fevers.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:07:52pm |
re: #237 alkmyst
I was thinking about quitting smoking the other day, then I watched Dennis Leary for an hour and a half.
I'll be back in about 5 minutes...
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:07:53pm |
re: #254 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
My strongly held beliefs entail beating anyone who vandalizes my property or interferes with my life. Think it will work?
Maybe if you get me on your jury.
(Except I will never be on a jury, it appears)
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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:08:02pm |
re: #249 Alaska Kim
Pom? I love that stuff. Expensive but good.
I thought that said Porn the first time I read it.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:08:02pm |
Haven't found a report on the Amadmanonjihad protests in the US MSM, but here's one in the Jerusalem Post
Interspersed with Israeli flags and placards calling for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to "take your hate back to hell" were a fluttering of blue McCain-Palin campaign signs, along with more strident handmade ones sticking out above the crowd, including one that read: "Prevent a nuclear Iranian Holocaust on Israel, vote McCaine-Palin [sic]."
Another man standing at the rear of the crowd echoed the point as he silently held a scrawled, accusatory placard: "Dems hate Sarah Palin more than they hate the Islamofascists."
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lifeofthemind Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:08:04pm |
re: #249 Alaska Kim
Pom? I love that stuff. Expensive but good.
The mango mix tastes better, the 100% is an acquired taste.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:08:35pm |
re: #243 buzzsawmonkey
The notion that one's own strongly-held beliefs entitle one to vandalize the property of others or otherwise interfere in their lives is disturbingly prevalent, and growing more so.
I wonder how much it'll cost to repair that paint job.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:08:39pm |
re: #239 debutaunt
Is that a 'manly' coffee drink at Starbucks?
It is part of one of the few funny scenes in Airplane II
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:09:11pm |
re: #260 Kosh's Shadow
Dems hate Sarah Palin more than they hate the Islamofascists."
Ain't it the ever-loving truth.
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Alouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:09:14pm |
re: #250 lifeofthemind
Rally at the UN today. Mostly HS students, some College students, about 400 Canadians, Eh?
How did you know they were Canadians? Because of their split heads?
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loppyd Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:09:16pm |
re: #250 lifeofthemind
Rally at the UN today. Mostly HS students, some College students, about 400 Canadians, Eh?
Thousands attend NYC anti-Iran rally
Still can't believe Hillary's high school "if she's going I'm not going" antics.
SUCH a beyatch.
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lifeofthemind Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:09:26pm |
re: #246 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Hell, those assholes in the UK caused like $50k in damages to a powerplant and got off arguing they did it because of global warming. This asshole could walk.
No American Judge has fallen for an argument that dumb. Twinkies yes, globaloney, no.
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JeremiahRight Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:09:34pm |
re: #224 Slumbering Behemoth
Bit of trivia for ya: "Arizona Bay" was the name of Bill Hicks' band as well as one of his comedy albums.
Tool borrows heavily from Hicks' stand-up routines.
Nice. Not really familiar with him other than the photo in the Aenima cd liner notes. Wikipedia says Denis Leary ripped off the No Cure For Cancer routine from him. Interesting
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:10:15pm |
re: #246 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Hell, those assholes in the UK caused like $50k in damages to a powerplant and got off arguing they did it because of global warming. This asshole could walk.
Not in Tarrant County he won't. In Texas it's a third-degree felony. Stiff fines and possible time in a state jail. The fact that he's done several of these doesn't help. The local Hummer dealer near there (Classic Chevrolet-Hummer in Grapevine) recognizes his work - the body shop manager said he's seen several Hummers with X's scratched on them (Jeppe's trademark).
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:10:22pm |
re: #244 Alaska Kim
Good tip!
That's another reason I want to quit. I want to start running. I walk 2 miles a day, but I need something more.
And holy crap! Smokes are expensive up here. $6 a pack.
Well when my son got back from Iraq he asked for lots of beer and pizza and a pack of marboro cigarrettes..
He didn't have the balls to smoke one in front of me..Big bad Marine..
/kids...and since I've never fired a gun and if I was in Iraq..I'd be smoking like a chimney
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:10:29pm |
re: #252 Silhouette
It hurts Mr. Silhouette to pay $4-$5 or whatever a pack, when he can see tobacco growing in the field beside the store.
SHouldn't it be cheaper here? ;-)
Taxes.
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:10:47pm |
re: #270 Ward Cleaver
the body shop manager said he's seen several Hummers with X's scratched on them (Jeppe's trademark).
Like the Wet Bandits!
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:10:54pm |
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FrogMarch Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:11:02pm |
re: #240 rain of lead
"I told you I'd shoot but you didn't belive me"
"Why didn't you believe me?!"
Happy happy joy joy
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lifeofthemind Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:11:05pm |
re: #266 Alouette
How did you know they were Canadians? Because of their split heads?
The signs and that they spoke better unaccented English were clues, also a strange calming effect.
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scottishbuzzsaw Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:12:04pm |
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Eowyn2 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:12:15pm |
re: #267 loppyd
Thousands attend NYC anti-Iran rally
Still can't believe Hillary's high school "if she's going I'm not going" antics.
SUCH a beyatch.
life goes on.
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doppelganglander Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:12:45pm |
re: #185 SummerSong
Orange County, CA is "America's most Republican county".
[Link: www.ocgop.org...]
Don't hate us because we're beautiful. :)
I can't believe you beat out Cobb County, Georgia. Yesterday afternoon at the state fair, the GOP booth was mobbed, the Democrats had one lonely worker, and the Libertarians had two young dorks and one old dork who didn't seem to realize that my husband, their only customer, was yanking their chain.
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:12:50pm |
re: #268 lifeofthemind
That was a jury. The judge couldn't keep it out.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:13:16pm |
How Obama Lost Me
(not me of course - I was never his to lose)
A laundry list from a former Obama supporter.
Yummy.
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lifeofthemind Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:13:56pm |
re: #267 loppyd
Thousands attend NYC anti-Iran rally
Still can't believe Hillary's high school "if she's going I'm not going" antics.
SUCH a beyatch.
Very foolish of her to bow out but Obama is getting naked in the abuse of threats by his creatures, warning charities they could lose their tax exemptions if Republicans are allowed to speak.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:14:33pm |
re: #282 lifeofthemind
Very foolish of her to bow out but Obama is getting naked in the abuse of threats by his creatures, warning charities they could lose their tax exemptions if Republicans are allowed to speak.
I heard that nugget on Rush today.
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:14:46pm |
re: #235 Ward Cleaver
It's the latter. The city was devastated in the So Cal fires a couple of years ago.
Coming up on the anniversary. Much of that devastation occurred because the City Manager decided to cordon off a neighborhood and let it burn. It was my neighborhood. My house survived, but about 30 others didn't. My street took a real hit : mine is 1 of 2 houses standing. 14 others burnt to the ground. Since then, the same city manager has raised building fees twice and only one of the houses on our street has been able to get through the gauntlet of red tape to start rebuilding (they started the foundation last week).
[Link: www.signonsandiego.com...]
Anyone who doubts that egos dictating government action (and inaction) can directly effect his/her life, point them to this post.
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Slumbering Behemoth Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:15:15pm |
re: #266 Alouette
How did you know they were Canadians? Because of their split heads?
"The Canadian government has already apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions."
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Alaska Kim Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:15:20pm |
re: #259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I thought that said Porn the first time I read it.
Get your mind out of the gutter! that's hysterical.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:15:48pm |
re: #279 doppelganglander
I can't believe you beat out Cobb County, Georgia. Yesterday afternoon at the state fair, the GOP booth was mobbed, the Democrats had one lonely worker, and the Libertarians had two young dorks and one old dork who didn't seem to realize that my husband, their only customer, was yanking their chain.
Did your husband have a good time? Sounds like it. Hugh Hewitt calls them "Losertarians".
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:16:05pm |
re: #285 Slumbering Behemoth
"The Canadian government has already apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions."
That's a start.
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Slumbering Behemoth Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:16:21pm |
re: #269 JeremiahRight
Wikipedia says Denis Leary ripped off the No Cure For Cancer routine from him. Interesting
'Tis true. I still like Denis Leary, though.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:16:32pm |
re: #249 Alaska Kim
Pom? I love that stuff. Expensive but good.
More than a few ounces of it actually makes me feel a bit nauseous.
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Cygnus Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:17:19pm |
re: #219 faraway
I have tried to stop reading LGF.
Is there a patch or some medication that I can take?
I have tried vodka and pain killers, but they don't work.
Work for a company that completly bans Internet use if not work-related. That'll do the trick. BTW, I'm typing this from home.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:17:25pm |
re: #290 Occasional Reader
More than a few ounces of it actually makes me feel a bit nauseous.
Can you mix it with vodka?
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loppyd Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:17:40pm |
Via Hot Air
Video: NRA drops four new ads on Obama
This will have the bowtie bumkissers at the NYT in a tizzy.
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rain of lead Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:17:42pm |
re: #275 FrogMarch
Happy happy joy joy
yeah posted that link waaay upthread,
since my kid is hanging out with me now here is a post for her
(she is a huuuge LR fan
crank it up and rip the knobs off
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Occasional Reader Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:18:48pm |
re: #292 Ward Cleaver
Can you mix it with vodka?
Coming right up, sir.
Wait a minute... make your own damn drink.
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Cygnus Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:18:57pm |
re: #232 Silhouette
You can try LOLCATS, but it just isn't the same.
Failblog.com comes pretty close.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:19:37pm |
They're obviously trying to get their stories straight and figure out some plausible way to claim this had nothing to do with the Obama campaign.
They're a crisis communications firm. And they've had 12 hours to figure out their story. But they apparently haven't come up with a good one yet.
I wonder if Liu-Klein realizes that as the lowest man on the totem poll here, he's the obvious fall-guy: "We regret an overly eager employee decided to hijack our YouTube accounts for his own unauthorized political purposes..."
Emphasis added.
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:20:15pm |
re: #288 Ward Cleaver
You don't like Summer of 69? I think that's rather sad.
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3 wood Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:20:17pm |
To Occasional Reader, if you are still out there, the point I was trying to make is the drop in the market today is not anything I would be worried about long term. It was more due to foolish rule changes made on the run by the SEC that created a loop hole in the short sale situation.
Once they wake up and fix the loop holes, I would expect to see a 3% jump in the market within an hour or two of that.
The SEC has to wake up and get their act together. This is way too important to muck it up now.
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:20:25pm |
re: #276 lifeofthemind
The signs and that they spoke better unaccented English were clues, also a strange calming effect.
how big was the crowd?
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loppyd Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:20:40pm |
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lifeofthemind Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:20:51pm |
re: #292 Ward Cleaver
Can you mix it with vodka?
Is there anything that hasn't been mixed with vodka?, maybe green tea?
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:21:09pm |
re: #290 Occasional Reader
More than a few ounces of it actually makes me feel a bit nauseous.
Almost every man I know says that. They really can't abide it.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:21:14pm |
re: #285 Slumbering Behemoth
"The Canadian government has already apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions."
I thought the agreement was that Rush couldn't stop touring until after Bryan stopped recording or died.
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Eowyn2 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:21:56pm |
re: #223 Ward Cleaver
Southlake Hummer vandal: "I confess, I'm a moonbat!"
He's a dues-paying member of the Sierra Club and Greenpeace.
He can afford to pay dues to the Sierra Club and Green Peace but he admits to having "financial difficulties"
guess what? he aint seen nothing yet.
72 yr olds should know better.
We're in deep shit when the rest of the Greatest Generation is gone if we are going to be ruled but the scraps left behind. the hippy generation. scary thoughts
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rain of lead Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:22:08pm |
re: #303 lifeofthemind
Is there anything that hasn't been mixed with vodka?, maybe green tea?
I mix my vodka with..... more vodka!
:)
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3 wood Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:22:26pm |
Following up on my #300, you would also see a jump in the value of the dollar and a corresponding drop in the price of oil.
Gold would drop too. A lot of money is fleeing to gold right now, bidding the price up, until the SEC can get their act together.
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WrathofG-d Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:22:46pm |
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loppyd Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:22:55pm |
McCain suporter tears the MSM a new one at town hall meeting in PA!
"NBC, NBC, NBC,!"
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Tamron Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:23:46pm |
re: #206 Dianna
Last Tuesday, while fighting bronchitis, I had another bronchial spasm - the worst I've ever had. Again, a visit to the ER.
...
All my life, if I get upset, I have gotten short of breath. It's not asthma, it's all psychological. I'm interested in seeing how that works out with not smoking.
Say Dianna, I'm familiar with what you're referring to. Take a look at increasing the oxygen level in your body, with a harmless product like THIS. Take a swig once or twice a day.
If your body is lightly deficient in oxygen (and if you're too lazy to do regular aerobic workouts, like some of us), then anaerobic ('oxygen hating') bacteria can flourish in the respiratory system. Smoking increases the negative effect, by further decreasing the oxygen level. If you raise your oxygen content by whatever means, this lessens the effect which any bacteria might be causing. I know someone who once got rid of a full-blown case of pneumonia in just 24 hours, with no drugs, by getting a special oxygen treatment from an alternative-medicine MD.
Not prescribing medicine, just relaying a personal experience. Oxygen is an element. Get more of it into your system and see if it helps. Several hundred years ago the oxygen level in Earth's atmosphere was between 30% and 40%, whereas today it's down around 20%. Thus we have to compensate, and especially those of us whose respiration system has somehow been compromised. It makes a big difference.
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rain of lead Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:23:48pm |
re: #309 WrathofG-d
I like my sugar with coffee and cream.
(who said it?....)
my best friend? (coffee addict!)
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lifeofthemind Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:23:54pm |
re: #301 nyc redneck
how big was the crowd?
I left after an hour and I'd guess under 2,000 but that isn't my specialty, some were coming and some leaving, the cops weren't letting more in to the main area at that time.
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debutaunt Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:24:08pm |
re: #229 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
POW-way.
Thank you - my daughter used to live in Rancho Bernardo and I heard it pronounced both ways.
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Eowyn2 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:24:10pm |
re: #285 Slumbering Behemoth
"The Canadian government has already apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions."
how bout Alan thicke?
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:24:18pm |
re: #307 rain of lead
I mix my vodka with..... more vodka!
:)
like a friend of mine who puts red pepper corns in it and leaves the bottle in the freezer.
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Slumbering Behemoth Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:24:20pm |
re: #285 Slumbering Behemoth
"The Canadian government has already apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions."
Well, I couldn't find the clip for that, so here is this instead: Totally NSFW!
With apologies to all Canadian Lizards.
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JeremiahRight Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:24:59pm |
re: #277 scottishbuzzsaw
ROFL!
"Man, its really a shame its that secondary smoke that stinks so bad, cause the stuff we're suckin up, f*ck its good! Woooo!"
Priceless. Almost makes me miss smokin...
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opnion Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:25:16pm |
re: #310 loppyd
McCain suporter tears the MSM a new one at town hall meeting in PA!
"NBC, NBC, NBC,!"
Video would be great. Good for her!
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:26:02pm |
re: #311 Tamron
Thanks for the tip.
I do martial arts, so I think I'm getting good aerobic exercise.
It's just time to stop smoking. Hell, it will mean that my house gets a lot cleaner!
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Cygnus Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:26:22pm |
re: #303 lifeofthemind
Is there anything that hasn't been mixed with vodka?, maybe green tea?
Buttermilk.
Powdered skim milk.
Mrs. Butterworth syrup.
Just a few suggestions.
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Mel Lono Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:26:31pm |
re: #257 MandyManners
Mandy - You just made my day! I will go to work today with a smile on my face and a sense of humor... I promise... cuz deep down I know I'm an Asshole!
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JeremiahRight Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:26:41pm |
re: #312 rain of lead
my best friend? (coffee addict!)
Wow, from Tool to the Beastie Boys in a single thread. You lizards have good taste in music
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FrogMarch Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:27:31pm |
re: #293 loppyd
Via Hot Air
Video: NRA drops four new ads on Obama
This will have the bowtie bumkissers at the NYT in a tizzy.
Add that to Penn and Teller's little gun ditty - and bam - Nobama.
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lifeofthemind Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:27:46pm |
re: #311 Tamron
No, the Oxygen level is 16% and has not changed in possibly millions of years. Do not push products in here with psuedo-science.
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jwb7605 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:28:01pm |
re: #322 Cygnus
Buttermilk.
Powdered skim milk.
Mrs. Butterworth syrup.Just a few suggestions.
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FrogMarch Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:29:30pm |
re: #325 FrogMarch
Add that to Penn and Teller's little gun ditty - and bam - Nobama.
Of course there's also Bullshit part I & II
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:29:33pm |
re: #293 loppyd
Via Hot Air
Video: NRA drops four new ads on Obama
This will have the bowtie bumkissers at the NYT in a tizzy.
Great!
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doppelganglander Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:29:40pm |
re: #287 Ward Cleaver
Did your husband have a good time? Sounds like it. Hugh Hewitt calls them "Losertarians".
He regaled them with tales of our personal encounters with Bob Barr and took their little "world's shortest political test," which of course placed him as a libertarian. He said that's great, but he likes to win elections. I asked them a couple of questions about Barr's standing in the polls in Georgia (2-5%) and whether he was on the ballot in all 50 states (he's not but they weren't sure which ones). I dragged Mr. Doppelganglander away before it got into policy; the young dorks were kind of sweet but I think the old guy was spoiling for a fight.
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debutaunt Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:30:17pm |
re: #256 CyanSnowHawk
Pow-way.
I'm sitting there right now, having not gone to work today as my Son and I both have mild fevers.
When my daughter lived in Rancho Bernardo, I heard it both ways. Is the Fish Market Restaurant still in Del Mar?
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SouthAmericanWay Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:30:22pm |
It was so freakin' hilarious to read the headlines of the deep investigative pieces that the New York Times has published on Obama - as reported by the Obama campaign itself, as a response to the its characterization as "an Obama advocacy organization" by the McCain campaign chief:
In Law School, Obama Found Political Voice [New York Times, 1/28/07]
Charisma and a Search for Self In Obama's Hawaii Childhood [New York Times, 3/17/07]
A Candidate, His Minister and the Search for Faith [New York Times, 4/30/07]
In Illinois, Obama Proved Pragmatic and Shrewd. [New York Times, 7/30/07]
In 2000, a Streetwise Veteran Schooled a Bold Young Obama. [New York Times, 9/9/07]
Loyal Network Backs Obama After His Help. [New York Times, 10/1/07]
A Free-Spirited Wanderer Who Set Obama’s Path [New York Times, 3/14/08]
As a Professor, Obama Enthralled Students and Puzzled Faculty [New York Times, 7/30/08]
Again, this was presented by the Obama campaign itself as sign of the neutrality of the New York Times! By the campaign itself!
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:30:26pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:30:34pm |
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Mel Lono Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:30:35pm |
re: #292 Ward Cleaver
Funny you should ask. We're putting out some new POM martinis this week at the bar. Haven't seen the recipes yet, but I'll keep you posted.
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Cygnus Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:30:35pm |
re: #310 loppyd
McCain suporter tears the MSM a new one at town hall meeting in PA!
"NBC, NBC, NBC,!"
One upding for you and a thousand for that lady. The MSM will need minor surgery after that one.
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:30:37pm |
re: #320 opnion
Video would be great. Good for her!
It is at the lower part of the linked page. great video.
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Outrider Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:32:02pm |
re: #321 Dianna
Thanks for the tip.
I do martial arts, so I think I'm getting good aerobic exercise.
It's just time to stop smoking. Hell, it will mean that my house gets a lot cleaner!
Start by quitting smoking in the house. It will keep the house cleaner and reduce your consumption. Believe it or not, it is a far easier step to take short term and you don't miss most of those routine smokes.
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opnion Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:32:30pm |
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Dianna Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:32:43pm |
I must run away, now.
Since there's no way in hell the Major's going to let me practice tonight, I may hang out here when I get home.
Or I may go back to writing. It depends.
Take care!
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:32:51pm |
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:33:44pm |
re: #271 HoosierHoops
Well when my son got back from Iraq he asked for lots of beer and pizza and a pack of marboro cigarrettes..
He didn't have the balls to smoke one in front of me..Big bad Marine..
/kids...and since I've never fired a gun and if I was in Iraq..I'd be smoking like a chimney
You should look at it this way: the Marines reinforced in him the notion that you don't do something in front of someone whom you know it will offend. And that kind of courtesy takes balls.
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opnion Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:34:10pm |
There were some postings that Axlerod was in jepordy with the Obama campaign. Is that conjecture or is there anything to it?
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jaunte Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:34:22pm |
re: #333 SouthAmericanWay
That's some deeply digging, sharp NYT reporting.
With big inflatable fur-covered spoons.
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opnion Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:34:49pm |
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:35:01pm |
re: #323 Mel Lono
Mandy - You just made my day! I will go to work today with a smile on my face and a sense of humor... I promise... cuz deep down I know I'm an Asshole!
w00t!
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rain of lead Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:35:02pm |
re: #342 MandyManners
Hey Mandy!
did you see the AP poll?
Vandy is in the top 25!
oh my god! the world is comming to an end.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:37:42pm |
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lifeofthemind Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:38:04pm |
Next will be discovered a hard hitting piece in the NYT by Walter Duranty on how a Michelina Obamsky was beloved by all the mothers and nurses at the People's Collective no. 59, Chikorskia.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:38:13pm |
re: #348 rain of lead
Hey Mandy!
did you see the AP poll?Vandy is in the top 25!
oh my god! the world is comming to an end.
Vandy can't be too bad if it produced Jake Cutler.
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opnion Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:39:19pm |
re: #349 MandyManners
She rips them a new one. Several new ones.
Just watched it , they had it coming.
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:39:35pm |
re: #327 lifeofthemind
No, the Oxygen level is 16% and has not changed in possibly millions of years. Do not push products in here with psuedo-science.
speaking of oxygen levels,
300 million yrs. ago, centipedes were 10 ft. long
and spiders a yard across w/ legs like furry baseball bats.
cockroaches 3 ft. long.
how would you like to be an orkin man back then?
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:39:36pm |
re: #343 stuiec
You should look at it this way: the Marines reinforced in him the notion that you don't do something in front of
someoneyour father whom you know it will offend. And that kind of courtesy takes balls.
fixed..
Jordan is my brave and strong son...I am a proud Marine parent.. He can smoke if he wants...Maybe..
/and i do mean maybe
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:40:39pm |
For anyone who doubts that the fix is in for Obama, run this google news search on Astroturfing.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:40:44pm |
re: #352 opnion
Just watched it , they had it coming.
Lotsa' cheering and applause. It looked like several people stood up, too.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:41:40pm |
re: #355 karmic_inquisitor
For anyone who doubts that the fix is in for Obama, run this google news search on Astroturfing.
There are only four.
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:41:52pm |
BTW : has Cognito commented on the Astroturfing issue?
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rain of lead Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:42:01pm |
re: #351 MandyManners
Jake is doing well in the NFL cause he is used to getting hit.
at Vandy he got his a** handed to him every week
this is like old times.."pressure what pressure"
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Truck Monkey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:42:04pm |
re: #303 lifeofthemind
Is there anything that hasn't been mixed with vodka?, maybe green tea?
Clam Juice. Pepto Bismol.
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Slumbering Behemoth Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:42:35pm |
re: #297 Sharmuta
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:42:37pm |
re: #353 nyc redneck
speaking of oxygen levels,
300 million yrs. ago, centipedes were 10 ft. long
and spiders a yard across w/ legs like furry baseball bats.
cockroaches 3 ft. long.
how would you like to be an orkin man back then?
Maybe they were bigger, too.
Orkin men, 80 ft tall, with arms like giant redwoods. And the trucks! The orkin trucks were huge.
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:43:30pm |
re: #359 karmic_inquisitor
BTW : has Cognito commented on the Astroturfing issue?
Too busy shredding?
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:43:33pm |
re: #357 MandyManners
There are only four.
Exactly. All blogs. No media whatsoever.
Obamaton accusations of malfeasance get far more coverage with far less meat to chew on.
Crickets.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:43:44pm |
re: #332 debutaunt
When my daughter lived in Rancho Bernardo, I heard it both ways. Is the Fish Market Restaurant still in Del Mar?
I believe it is, but I haven't been to it. I don't get out that way much except for the SD County Fair.
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:44:03pm |
re: #361 Truck Monkey
Clam Juice. Pepto Bismol.
Here’s the classic recipe for a Caesar:
1 ounce Vodka
Clamato Juice
1 dash Worcestershire sauce
1 dash Tabasco sauce
Salt
Pepper
Celery salt
Celery stick
Rim a tall glass with celery salt and fill with ice. Add vodka, fill glass with Clamato juice and add Worcestershire sauce, Tabasco, salt and pepper. Garnish with a celery stick and enjoy.
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Shr_Nfr Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:44:27pm |
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opnion Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:44:37pm |
re: #353 nyc redneck
speaking of oxygen levels,
300 million yrs. ago, centipedes were 10 ft. long
and spiders a yard across w/ legs like furry baseball bats.
cockroaches 3 ft. long.
how would you like to be an orkin man back then?
Interestingly enough, that was the same time as the last Cubs World Series.
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neocon hippie Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:45:06pm |
re: #344 opnion
Just conjecture. Given that Axelrod is the man behind the curtain, to throw him under the bus at this point would cause the campaign to self-destruct.
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lifeofthemind Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:45:13pm |
re: #353 nyc redneck
speaking of oxygen levels,
300 million yrs. ago, centipedes were 10 ft. long
and spiders a yard across w/ legs like furry baseball bats.
cockroaches 3 ft. long.
how would you like to be an orkin man back then?
They haunted our Summer camp stories, and sometimes our socks. So 6 lobsters = 2 Carboniferous roaches = 1 politician?
At the American Museum of Natural history they have the diorama with the Huge millipede model, in the North American forests exhibit. It was made from a vacuum cleaner hose.
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alkmyst Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:45:24pm |
re: #334 MandyManners
I generally prefer shaken, not stirred, but yeah - it was that show that completely did it for me :-)
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pat Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:45:26pm |
Talked to a moonbat today that said banking crises was caused by Bush. Reality Challenged. The MSM goes quiet.
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:46:41pm |
Arrrrr, thanks for the links Frog. Here is Penn and Teller on Patriotism
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:46:43pm |
This will make some men happy, but no one else. Seems I've read the same type of article for the last few decades or so.....
Sexist Attitudes and the Wage Gap
/bbl
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opnion Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:47:02pm |
re: #370 neocon hippie
Just conjecture. Given that Axelrod is the man behind the curtain, to throw him under the bus at this point would cause the campaign to self-destruct.
Yeah, thats what I think. There is precedent. Dukakis threw Susan Estrich off of the sled, but that campaign had nothing to lose.
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Alouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:47:35pm |
re: #370 neocon hippie
Just conjecture. Given that Axelrod is the man behind the curtain, to throw him under the bus at this point would cause the campaign to self-destruct.
I thought Obama has all that executive experience of running his own campaign.
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jacksontn Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:47:53pm |
From Ace:
Fresh from the Jawas:
Statement of Ethan Winner
The following is in response to questions I have received regarding the post on the Jawa Report website.
I produced and posted on the Internet the video entitled "Sarah Palin: A Heartbeat Away."
The idea for the video was mine. No one paid me to produce it. The only out-of-pocket cost will be the fee for the voice-over narrator, which I will pay personally when I receive an invoice. Contrary to the allegation in the Jawa Report, the voice-over artist has never done any work for the Obama campaign. I retained her through a talent agency based solely on the quality of her voice.
Neither the Obama campaign nor any independent political action committee has had a connection with the making and/or posting of this video. Just like the thousands of Americans who have posted videos on the Internet regarding the current Presidential campaign, I produced this video as an expression of my right to free speech, which is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.
I believe the American people have a right and a need to know information about candidates for political office and their views. I made this video because I think it is important for the public to be aware of the association between Sarah and Todd Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party. The New York Times has reported that the Alaskan Independence Party website describes the party as seeking, in the words of the party, "a range of solutions to the conflicts between federal and local authority," including "advocacy for state's rights, through a return to territorial status, all the way to complete independence and nationhood status for Alaska."
While a number of media outlets have said that reports that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party may have been erroneous, her attendance at the party's 1994 convention, her video speech to the 2008 convention and her husband's membership in the Alaskan Independence Party have not been called into question.
Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.
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Truck Monkey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:48:36pm |
re: #367 stuiec
Here’s the classic recipe for a Caesar:
1 ounce Vodka
Clamato Juice
1 dash Worcestershire sauce
1 dash Tabasco sauce
Salt
Pepper
Celery salt
Celery stickRim a tall glass with celery salt and fill with ice. Add vodka, fill glass with Clamato juice and add Worcestershire sauce, Tabasco, salt and pepper. Garnish with a celery stick and enjoy.
Why ruin perfectly good Vodka with all of that other shit?
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Cap'n DOC Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:49:59pm |
re: #364 Silhouette
Well, since he's not here, I think he's kindofa PulpFiction defender.
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opnion Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:50:30pm |
re: #377 Alouette
I thought Obama has all that executive experience of running his own campaign.
Well, he ah ah ah, has ah all the um, ah you know.
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doppelganglander Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:50:32pm |
re: #378 jacksontn
I don't believe one word of that statement, including "and" and "the."
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lifeofthemind Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:51:21pm |
re: #378 jacksontn
The Whaaaambulance is arriving, the backstory is being tacked dowm for him, tacky with fresh paint.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:51:25pm |
re: #378 jacksontn
From Ace:
Fresh from the Jawas: Statement of Ethan Winner...
Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.
Well, that clears that up. And I thought there may be something fishy going on here.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:51:47pm |
re: #378 jacksontn
From Ace:
Fresh from the Jawas:
Statement of Ethan Winner
The following is... [snip] ...phone calls and emails.
Looks like this was the "in the event that any of your IMF team is killed or captured" option.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:51:54pm |
re: #204 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
All the punks are going to scream "Yippie!"
It's The Thing That Only Eats Hippies!
-Dead Milkmen
It's a shame that Rodney Anonymous is a shrill, barking moonie. Or at least, he mostly is.
/blow it out your hairdo, because you work at Hardee's.
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Reality_Wrangler Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:52:01pm |
Good grief, stuck in an airport in Memphis for 2 hours, every monitor it tuned in CNN, banner reads "Why Osama will win" with Bubba pontificating. Is it any wonder that Steve Schmidt said today: "Whatever the New York Times once was, it is today not by any standard a journalistic organization. It is a pro-Obama advocacy organization. This is an organization that is completely, totally, 150 percent in the tank for the Democratic candidate." Is it any wonder 9 out of 10 Americans agree...? I am watching travelers stare up at these screens with blank looks. I really wonder...
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Cap'n DOC Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:52:34pm |
re: #378 jacksontn
Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.
Ummm. And this guy does what for whom?
I thought so. Just another 'concerned American'. Uhhuh. Right.
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:52:44pm |
re: #378 jacksontn
First of all, he said "heartbeat", so everyone Drink! (It's the new Hope and Change)
Secondly,
Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.
How does pulling the video which doesn't have the personal information stop these alleged threats? Logically, that makes no sense.
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jwb7605 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:53:46pm |
re: #293 loppyd
Via Hot Air
Video: NRA drops four new ads on Obama
This will have the bowtie bumkissers at the NYT in a tizzy.
The NRA 503C "main" site is here with all 4 ads available.
The particular ad that addresses the issues of my concern is this one.
My take is that "worrying about getting guns banned" is not the issue to target.
Getting all the supplies banned is the thing to watch out for.
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JeremiahRight Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:54:09pm |
re: #387 Pawn of the Oppressor
It's a shame that Rodney Anonymous is a shrill, barking moonie. Or at least, he mostly is.
Pro-establishment bands makes for one short playlist my friend. Unless you're into country, I guess they're the exception
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:54:15pm |
re: #378 jacksontn
From Ace:
Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.
Bullshit. As if people who handle that much money are listed in the phone book...
I knew they were going to shout "Free Speech!"-slash-"I am a concerned citizen!", which is fine, except that's not the fuckin' point.
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WhiteRasta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:54:19pm |
re: #388 Reality_Wrangler
There was a Lizard here who traveled with a universal TV remote. He'd change the airport TV monitors from Communist News Network to Fox.
BWAAHAHAHAHH!
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:55:10pm |
re: #394 Pawn of the Oppressor
Bullshit. As if people who handle that much money are listed in the phone book...
I knew they were going to shout "Free Speech!"-slash-"I am a concerned citizen!", which is fine, except that's not the fuckin' point.
But they always claim death threats.
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Eowyn2 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:55:41pm |
re: #361 Truck Monkey
Clam Juice. Pepto Bismol.
my son drinks the pepto before going out.
clam juice and vodka --- Ceasar.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:55:43pm |
re: #395 WhiteRasta
There was a Lizard here who traveled with a universal TV remote. He'd change the airport TV monitors from Communist News Network to Fox.
BWAAHAHAHAHH!
I like that.
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kansas Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:56:08pm |
re: #311 Tamron
Say Dianna, I'm familiar with what you're referring to. Take a look at increasing the oxygen level in your body, with a harmless product like THIS. Take a swig once or twice a day.
If your body is lightly deficient in oxygen (and if you're too lazy to do regular aerobic workouts, like some of us), then anaerobic ('oxygen hating') bacteria can flourish in the respiratory system. Smoking increases the negative effect, by further decreasing the oxygen level. If you raise your oxygen content by whatever means, this lessens the effect which any bacteria might be causing. I know someone who once got rid of a full-blown case of pneumonia in just 24 hours, with no drugs, by getting a special oxygen treatment from an alternative-medicine MD.
Not prescribing medicine, just relaying a personal experience. Oxygen is an element. Get more of it into your system and see if it helps. Several hundred years ago the oxygen level in Earth's atmosphere was between 30% and 40%, whereas today it's down around 20%. Thus we have to compensate, and especially those of us whose respiration system has somehow been compromised. It makes a big difference.
.
I would guess that if you had anaerobic bacteria in your lungs you might need more than a swig of worthless shit sold by some scam artist. But hey, that's just me.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:56:28pm |
re: #378 jacksontn
From Ace:
Fresh from the Jawas:
Statement of Ethan Winner
The following is in response to questions I have received regarding the post on the Jawa Report website.I produced and posted on the Internet the video entitled "Sarah Palin: A Heartbeat Away."
The idea for the video was mine. No one paid me to produce it. The only out-of-pocket cost will be the fee for the voice-over narrator, which I will pay personally when I receive an invoice. Contrary to the allegation in the Jawa Report, the voice-over artist has never done any work for the Obama campaign. I retained her through a talent agency based solely on the quality of her voice.
Neither the Obama campaign nor any independent political action committee has had a connection with the making and/or posting of this video. Just like the thousands of Americans who have posted videos on the Internet regarding the current Presidential campaign, I produced this video as an expression of my right to free speech, which is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.
I believe the American people have a right and a need to know information about candidates for political office and their views. I made this video because I think it is important for the public to be aware of the association between Sarah and Todd Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party. The New York Times has reported that the Alaskan Independence Party website describes the party as seeking, in the words of the party, "a range of solutions to the conflicts between federal and local authority," including "advocacy for state's rights, through a return to territorial status, all the way to complete independence and nationhood status for Alaska."
While a number of media outlets have said that reports that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party may have been erroneous, her attendance at the party's 1994 convention, her video speech to the 2008 convention and her husband's membership in the Alaskan Independence Party have not been called into question.
Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.
And this explains the sock puppetry how?
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JacksonTn Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:57:50pm |
I still want to know how you can tell who uploaded something to google videos. Anyone?
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:57:57pm |
re: #375 twincitiesgirl
This will make some men happy, but no one else. Seems I've read the same type of article for the last few decades or so.....
Sexist Attitudes and the Wage Gap
/bbl
Yaaar, Perhaps the "traditionalist " white male makes the extra 17 grand because he worked his ass off for it. And needs the extra money because his wife is home with the kids raising them to be good Americans, and productive citizens. My brother and his wife are liberals, but she was a stay at home and cared for the kids. They are a "tight" family and my niece is about to enter her internship as a medical doctor. She will ultimately end up making more than her father, but she put in eight years of higher education and will have paid her dues to earn it....Way to go Mimi!
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Alberta Oil Peon Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:58:02pm |
re: #15 formercorpsman
Another one.
[Link: www.cbc.ca...]
I heard that on the radio (not CBC!).
Sad that there are people (?) in this world who are so limited in their scope that all they aspire to do is ape some other goblin's crime.
Sounds like this one knew he had problems, and actually turned himself in to the cops in Wawa for a mental assessment. He was duly assessed by the head-bender at the local hospital, who determined that he was not crazy enough to hold under the terms of the mental health act.
Free government health care at work!
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Outrider Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:58:10pm |
re: #378 jacksontn
Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.
In the short period of time between the release of the warning message by Aces and the yanking of the videos ( 90 minutes) he received threatening and abusive phone calls and emails. So many people out there actually made the connection to his name; found his phone number and E-mail address and made their calls. Threatening phone calls are illegal. He, of course did not not notify the police as the caller could be IDed; we have only his word for this.
The stonewalling has begun.
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jwb7605 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:58:33pm |
re: #394 Pawn of the Oppressor
Bullshit. As if people who handle that much money are listed in the phone book...
I knew they were going to shout "Free Speech!"-slash-"I am a concerned citizen!", which is fine, except that's not the fuckin' point.
The f*ckin point is that he admits he did it.
That strips about two weeks off proving it the hard way.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:58:44pm |
re: #400 Sharmuta
And this explains the sock puppetry how?
What are you, some kind of anti-free-speech unamerican fascist reactionary? SHUT UP! BE QUIET! LOOK OVER THERE!
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:59:27pm |
re: #400 Sharmuta
You are so not nuanced. Sheesh. If you don't get it, its obviously just too complex for you and I am not wasting my time explaining it. You will simply need to trust that it is because I say so.
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lifeofthemind Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:59:39pm |
re: #403 Alberta Oil Peon
I heard that on the radio (not CBC!).
Sad that there are people (?) in this world who are so limited in their scope that all they aspire to do is ape some other goblin's crime.
Sounds like this one knew he had problems, and actually turned himself in to the cops in Wawa for a mental assessment. He was duly assessed by the head-bender at the local hospital, who determined that he was not crazy enough to hold under the terms of the mental health act.
Free government health care at work!
Catch-22? You turned yourself in, that proves you are sane.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 3:59:53pm |
Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Someone (Ace and Jawa) with two ounces of common cents connected the dots, added 2 plus 2, and correctly came up with 4. Please forward all future correspondence to me at
UNDER THE BUS
BACK RIGHT WHEEL
CHICAGO ILL
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:00:12pm |
re: #378 jacksontn
From Ace:
Fresh from the Jawas:
Statement of Ethan Winner
The following is in response to questions I have received regarding the post on the Jawa Report website.I produced and posted on the Internet the video entitled "Sarah Palin: A Heartbeat Away."
The idea for the video was mine. No one paid me to produce it. The only out-of-pocket cost will be the fee for the voice-over narrator, which I will pay personally when I receive an invoice. Contrary to the allegation in the Jawa Report, the voice-over artist has never done any work for the Obama campaign. I retained her through a talent agency based solely on the quality of her voice.
Neither the Obama campaign nor any independent political action committee has had a connection with the making and/or posting of this video. Just like the thousands of Americans who have posted videos on the Internet regarding the current Presidential campaign, I produced this video as an expression of my right to free speech, which is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.
I believe the American people have a right and a need to know information about candidates for political office and their views. I made this video because I think it is important for the public to be aware of the association between Sarah and Todd Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party. The New York Times has reported that the Alaskan Independence Party website describes the party as seeking, in the words of the party, "a range of solutions to the conflicts between federal and local authority," including "advocacy for state's rights, through a return to territorial status, all the way to complete independence and nationhood status for Alaska."
While a number of media outlets have said that reports that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party may have been erroneous, her attendance at the party's 1994 convention, her video speech to the 2008 convention and her husband's membership in the Alaskan Independence Party have not been called into question.
Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.
And this explains the kos diary deletions how?
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Silhouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:00:20pm |
In the first days after Palin was announced, the phrase "heartbeat away" popped up everywhere, each "source" supposedly independant of the others.
Amazing coincidence, or fraudulent "viral" "grassroots" action? You decide.
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JacksonTn Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:00:29pm |
re: #404 Outrider
In the short period of time between the release of the warning message by Aces and the yanking of the videos ( 90 minutes) he received threatening and abusive phone calls and emails. So many people out there actually made the connection to his name; found his phone number and E-mail address and made their calls. Threatening phone calls are illegal. He, of course did not not notify the police as the caller could be IDed; we have only his word for this.
The stonewalling has begun.
He failed to say the calls were actually coming from Axelrod, et al.
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:01:14pm |
re: #391 jwb7605
The NRA 503C "main" site is here with all 4 ads available.
The particular ad that addresses the issues of my concern is this one.
My take is that "worrying about getting guns banned" is not the issue to target.
Getting all the supplies banned is the thing to watch out for.
Mateys, Never register your weapons unless forced by law! Primers are the weak point in ammo. No supply of primers and nothing works..
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:01:14pm |
re: #378 jacksontn
From Ace:
Fresh from the Jawas:
Statement of Ethan Winner
The following is in response to questions I have received regarding the post on the Jawa Report website.I produced and posted on the Internet the video entitled "Sarah Palin: A Heartbeat Away."
The idea for the video was mine. No one paid me to produce it. The only out-of-pocket cost will be the fee for the voice-over narrator, which I will pay personally when I receive an invoice. Contrary to the allegation in the Jawa Report, the voice-over artist has never done any work for the Obama campaign. I retained her through a talent agency based solely on the quality of her voice.
Neither the Obama campaign nor any independent political action committee has had a connection with the making and/or posting of this video. Just like the thousands of Americans who have posted videos on the Internet regarding the current Presidential campaign, I produced this video as an expression of my right to free speech, which is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.
I believe the American people have a right and a need to know information about candidates for political office and their views. I made this video because I think it is important for the public to be aware of the association between Sarah and Todd Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party. The New York Times has reported that the Alaskan Independence Party website describes the party as seeking, in the words of the party, "a range of solutions to the conflicts between federal and local authority," including "advocacy for state's rights, through a return to territorial status, all the way to complete independence and nationhood status for Alaska."
While a number of media outlets have said that reports that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party may have been erroneous, her attendance at the party's 1994 convention, her video speech to the 2008 convention and her husband's membership in the Alaskan Independence Party have not been called into question.
Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.
Will he be providing the invoice of the voice over lady to prove it's not the one from the 0bama ads?
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reloadingisnotahobby Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:01:40pm |
re: #391 jwb7605
The NRA 503C "main" site is here with all 4 ads available.
The particular ad that addresses the issues of my concern is this one.
My take is that "worrying about getting guns banned" is not the issue to target.
Getting all the supplies banned is the thing to watch out for.
Loader says "Ooorah" for the NRA!
Now ...off to the sporting goods!
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johnnyreb Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:02:03pm |
re: #311 Tamron
Say Dianna, I'm familiar with what you're referring to. Take a look at increasing the oxygen level in your body, with a harmless product like THIS. Take a swig once or twice a day.
If your body is lightly deficient in oxygen (and if you're too lazy to do regular aerobic workouts, like some of us), then anaerobic ('oxygen hating') bacteria can flourish in the respiratory system. Smoking increases the negative effect, by further decreasing the oxygen level. If you raise your oxygen content by whatever means, this lessens the effect which any bacteria might be causing. I know someone who once got rid of a full-blown case of pneumonia in just 24 hours, with no drugs, by getting a special oxygen treatment from an alternative-medicine MD.
Not prescribing medicine, just relaying a personal experience. Oxygen is an element. Get more of it into your system and see if it helps. Several hundred years ago the oxygen level in Earth's atmosphere was between 30% and 40%, whereas today it's down around 20%. Thus we have to compensate, and especially those of us whose respiration system has somehow been compromised. It makes a big difference.
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What? 40% O2 levels would poison human, mammel and plant life nearly instantly. Where did you get these figures?
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Bat Boy Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:02:14pm |
re: #400 Sharmuta
And this explains the sock puppetry how?
'Sock puppetry'? You say that like its a bad thing.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:02:27pm |
Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.
And this is different than the treatment Sarah Palin and her family have come under how?
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:02:58pm |
re: #415 Sharmuta
In short order. With all of his family member's information blacked out, because, well, you know what happened when he posted a youtube video. It contained all of his, as well as his families, contact information which was then published by the jawa whatevers and, well, you know the rest of the story.
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celtic templar Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:03:01pm |
re: #409 sattv4u2
Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.
Actually, no one asked WHY. We sorta know, thus the point of Rusty's investigation. Lots of remarked on how quick you removed it Mr. Winner. Quicker than any nonsense about people calling or e-mailing you or your family. Nice try, but FAIL.
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Alouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:03:20pm |
re: #419 Sharmuta
And this is different than the treatment Sarah Palin and her family have come under how?
But, but, but, she has Secret Service protection!
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Tamron Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:03:37pm |
re: #327 lifeofthemind
No, the Oxygen level is 16% and has not changed in possibly millions of years. Do not push products in here with psuedo-science.
OK, the only point I will concede my statement regarding "300-400 years ago". It was a longer stretch of time, but the oxygen-lessening phenomenon still did occur.
Other than that, according to these authorities, your opinion is somewhat skewed:
Professor Robert Berner of Yale University has researched oxygen levels in prehistoric times by chemically analysing air bubbles trapped in fossilised tree amber. He suggests that humans breathed a much more oxygen-rich air 10,000 years ago.
Further back, the oxygen levels were even greater. Robert Sloan has listed the percentage of oxygen in samples of dinosaur-era amber as: 28% (130m years ago), 29% (115m years ago), 35% (95m years ago), 33% (88m years ago), 35% (75m years ago), 35% (70m years ago), 35% (68m years ago), 31% (65.2m years ago), and 29% (65m years ago).
Professor Ian Plimer of Adelaide University and Professor Jon Harrison of the University of Arizona concur. Like most other scientists they accept that oxygen levels in the atmosphere in prehistoric times averaged around 30% to 35%, compared to only 21% today – and that the levels are even less in densely populated, polluted city centres and industrial complexes, perhaps only 15 % or lower.
Much of this recent, accelerated change is down to human activity, notably the industrial revolution and the burning of fossil fuels. The Professor of Geological Sciences at Notre Dame University in Indiana, J Keith Rigby, was quoted in 1993-1994 as saying:
In the 20th century, humanity has pumped increasing amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere by burning the carbon stored in coal, petroleum and natural gas. In the process, we've also been consuming oxygen and destroying plant life – cutting down forests at an alarming rate and thereby short-circuiting the cycle's natural rebound. We're artificially slowing down one process and speeding up another, forcing a change in the atmosphere.
Very interesting. But does this decline in oxygen matter? Are there any practical consequences that we ought to be concerned about? What is the effect of lower oxygen levels on the human body? Does it disrupt and impair our immune systems and therefore make us more prone to cancer and degenerative diseases?
Surprisingly, no significant research has been done, perhaps on the following presumption: the decline in oxygen levels has taken place over millions of years of our planet's existence. The changes during the shorter period of human life have also been slow and incremental – until the last two centuries of rapid urbanisation and industrialisation. Surely, this mostly gradual decline has allowed the human body to evolve and adapt to lower concentrations of oxygen? Maybe, maybe not.
If that is 'pseudoscience', then what science do you use? I'm not 'pushing a product' any more than others here who talk about t-shirts or buttons or whatever, and I have no connection whatsoever with that company, other than I admire the beneficial and healthful effect that their product gives.
Hmmm. Sounds like somebody with a vested interest in the 'sickness' profession.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:03:38pm |
Hey Ethan Winner- that sound you hear? That's the sound of the wheels of the bus going thump-thump-thump.
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:03:38pm |
re: #411 Silhouette
In the first days after Palin was announced, the phrase "heartbeat away" popped up everywhere, each "source" supposedly independant of the others.
Amazing coincidence, or fraudulent "viral" "grassroots" action? You decide.
isn't pelosi the next heart beat away? her and all her remaindered books.
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opnion Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:03:40pm |
re: #404 Outrider
In the short period of time between the release of the warning message by Aces and the yanking of the videos ( 90 minutes) he received threatening and abusive phone calls and emails. So many people out there actually made the connection to his name; found his phone number and E-mail address and made their calls. Threatening phone calls are illegal. He, of course did not not notify the police as the caller could be IDed; we have only his word for this.
The stonewalling has begun.
You got it this wqas predictible. Not only was he exercising his Constitutional Right to free speech, but he is also now being threatened.
Neither Sarah or Todd Palin ever belonged to The Alasks Independent Party. The Constitution waqs not written to protect liars, but there ya go.
If he got death threats it was likely from the Obama Campaign, "You stupid honkey, ya got caught. I outta bust a cap in yo ass.
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stevieray Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:04:05pm |
re: #378 jacksontn
Ooo... The ol' "republicans are threatening my family" dodge.
I wonder if this guy ever heard of the "in kind" donation rule... pretending a service to a campaign doesn't count because it was "free", meaning you won't charge for it now that there is a problem, is an old trick and the Feds have rules about that stuff.
He just admitted he made an Obama commercial with his professional expertise and facilities... I think he just admitted to an "in kind" contribution.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:04:15pm |
re: #427 buzzsawmonkey
"You can dish it out, but you can't take it."
--Enrico "Little Caesar" Bandello
Bingo!
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:04:39pm |
re: #419 Sharmuta
And this is different than the treatment Sarah Palin and her family have come under how?
exactly!
It must be ok to cause pain to other american families..as long as it doesn't effect yours.
brave warrior
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reloadingisnotahobby Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:04:41pm |
re: #414 loflyer
Mateys, Never register your weapons unless forced by law! Primers are the weak point in ammo. No supply of primers and nothing works..
What?
Of course all my "weapons" are registered!
;-)
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opnion Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:07:27pm |
re: #419 Sharmuta
And this is different than the treatment Sarah Palin and her family have come under how?
Don't you get it? Sarah Palin is White Trash! Five kids & the same husband? Tells ya all you need to know.
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jwb7605 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:08:49pm |
re: #433 opnion
Don't you get it? Sarah Palin is White Trash! Five kids & the same husband? Tells ya all you need to know.
LOL!
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:09:09pm |
re: #426 opnion
You got it this wqas predictible. Not only was he exercising his Constitutional Right to free speech, but he is also now being threatened.
Neither Sarah or Todd Palin ever belonged to The Alasks Independent Party. The Constitution waqs not written to protect liars, but there ya go.
If he got death threats it was likely from the Obama Campaign, "You stupid honkey, ya got caught. I outta bust a cap in yo ass.
Yaaaar, you got a up-ding on that! DU and the Kos Kidz are lower than whale sh#t. Keel haul 'em and hang their mangy remains.....
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Cap'n DOC Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:10:09pm |
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:11:10pm |
Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.
Rusty- you brute!
Of course- Sarah Palin has be threatened with gang rape, among other things, but this poor Winner is a victim.
And never mind Rusty has just as much right to free speech to state his findings on anything he dug up as Ethan Winer has to spread lies.
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MrMom Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:11:26pm |
Hey all you lizards out there! Did I miss anything in the last 4 months?
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opnion Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:11:49pm |
re: #435 loflyer
Yaaaar, you got a up-ding on that! DU and the Kos Kidz are lower than whale sh#t. Keel haul 'em and hang their mangy remains.....
Yaaar Matey, I be missin Talk Like a Pirate Day meself, Yaaar!
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JacksonTn Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:12:09pm |
I posted this here at LGF a few days ago but now it really makes sense to me especially the part about the professionals will take it from here part. I also posted this at Ace today.
Paul Hackett Diary at Kos soliciting people to send out lies about Palins:
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
Also check out Paul Hacket wiki page:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
He was running for Congress in Ohio and was one of Howard Deans boys and was moveon candidate.
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Outrider Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:12:24pm |
I produced this video as an expression of my right to free speech, which is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.
I'm not a lawyer, but if a PR firm is doing political work for a candidate and tosses smear stuff our there "for free" per his constitutional rights; how can he ~not~be connected officially?
The company he works for, Winner & Associates, is one of the largest PR firms in the country and part of an even larger international conglomerate Publicis Groupe, which is, "one the world's top 10 advertising and communications firms."A firm that specializes in "helping companies survive and succeed" a "controversial issue such as a lawsuit, a government investigation, a political protest, a labor dispute, or a defective product or recall."
A firm that also happens to produce TV ads. And owns a number of affiliated firms which do similar work.
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:13:22pm |
re: #438 Sharmuta
You are attempting to use logic here and I will not stand for it one more minute. Logic has no place here, young lady.
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:13:50pm |
re: #440 opnion
Yaaar Matey, I be missin Talk Like a Pirate Day meself, Yaaar!
Arrrr Mate, I am thinking that I need to go to the next Jimmy Buffet concert and get into the whole Parrot-head thing. Looks like I will need a designated driver....
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:14:23pm |
re: #440 opnion
wasn't that a few days ago? Or is it talk like a pirate week?
can we all go to KOS and yell PREPARE TO BE BOARDED?
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johnnyreb Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:14:25pm |
re: #423 Tamron
I understand the prehistoric O2 levels, but you did say the last few hundred years in your post.
On a geological time scale, humans have evolved with an O2 level in the atmosphere of between 19 and 21%.
In your post it states that in certain urban areas O2 levels are at only 15%. At that level everyone starts to see the effects of Hypoxia. We routinely check O2 levels for confined spaces and HAZMAT stuff and anything below 19% is an immediate danger signal and means immediate evacuation.
I suspect the good doctor quoted in your article in just speculating on the 15% part.
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jwb7605 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:15:06pm |
re: #437 ArmyWife
Go here.
No global warming, no oxygen depletion. Sorry. I am not part of the "sickness" industry either.
When I was young and still in grade school, there was an irrational fear of too many automobile tires being produced and used.
Somebody did the math, and determined that by 2000 there would be a pile of worn-off rubber along the side of each interstate highway about 5 feet tall, and all the barrow ditches would get filled in on the more rural roads.
Two years later, scientists discovered a "new" organism that was eating the worn-off tire rubber.
/it's always something ... Emily Latrella (?)
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opnion Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:15:27pm |
re: #444 loflyer
Arrrr Mate, I am thinking that I need to go to the next Jimmy Buffet concert and get into the whole Parrot-head thing. Looks like I will need a designated driver....
They be fun Matey. Yaaar, I be there meself.
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Cap'n DOC Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:15:48pm |
From Rusty's article:
I wonder how you bill astrotrurfing. Is that itemized, hourly, or is it just a flat retainer?
ROFLMAO.
Here I thought the dude was just InterTubing. That's the very leaky variety of a SwiftBoat - it held water. This was doesn't even hold hot air.
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opnion Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:16:17pm |
re: #445 ArmyWife
wasn't that a few days ago? Or is it talk like a pirate week?
can we all go to KOS and yell PREPARE TO BE BOARDED?
Yaaar, lets go!
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kansas Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:16:42pm |
re: #411 Silhouette
In the first days after Palin was announced, the phrase "heartbeat away" popped up everywhere, each "source" supposedly independant of the others.
Amazing coincidence, or fraudulent "viral" "grassroots" action? You decide.
Back in 2000 the buzzword was "gravitas". Cheney gave the ticket "gravitas". I'm not sure what Biden gives Obama....he needs all the "gravitas" he can get.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:16:50pm |
The idea for the video was mine. No one paid me to produce it. The only out-of-pocket cost will be the fee for the voice-over narrator, which I will pay personally when I receive an invoice. Contrary to the allegation in the Jawa Report, the voice-over artist has never done any work for the Obama campaign. I retained her through a talent agency based solely on the quality of her voice.
So he's admitting he produced this professionally, albeit alone and not with the help of his daddy's PR firm. THough Firm members helped him play sock puppet games on company time....
However- if it was produced with actual voice over talent resulting in billing, does this need to be filed with the FEC?
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:17:08pm |
re: #443 ArmyWife
You are attempting to use logic here and I will not stand for it one more minute. Logic has no place here, young lady.
/
I know........ *sigh*
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willowone Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:17:20pm |
re: #310 loppyd
that was wonderful and i'm so glad she took that moemnt to stare them down.
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:17:45pm |
re: #449 buzzsawmonkey
If we are REAL pirates, we are not taking them home. I am reading this book on Capt. Kidd (who wasn't a pirate, btw), but am now fascinated with what real pirates did versus Pirates of the Caribbean. For the record, I would take Johnny Depp in costume home. So long as his mouth was duct taped shut.
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willowone Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:18:06pm |
re: #449 buzzsawmonkey
duct tape, cheetos and closet, will do the trick.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:18:15pm |
re: #23 nyc redneck
i need a piece of chocolate cake.
I have some!
chocolate fudge with cream cheese icing.
Come on over!
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yesandno Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:18:18pm |
No only do they command happiness....they define it as well.
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jwb7605 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:18:26pm |
re: #440 opnion
Yaaar Matey, I be missin Talk Like a Pirate Day meself, Yaaar!
Und I'll see-a yuoor telk leeke-a a purete-a, metey, und reeese-a yuoo a Svedeesh Cheff.
Bork Bork Bork!
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:19:27pm |
re: #448 opnion
They be fun Matey. Yaaar, I be there meself.
One of my favs, Cheese burger in paradise
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loppyd Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:19:30pm |
Flying pig moment at MSNBC (via Hot Air)
MS-NBC: Biden’s earmarks a “legitimate” issue
Maybe this is Bizarro MS-NBC, or perhaps this is what happens when media outlets stop using partisan hacks as news anchors. David Schuster and James Popkin take a closer look at Joe Biden and his earmarks, which Biden has refused to itemize prior to this year — when he’s requested over $340 million in pork. Instead of an Olbermann rationalization about Biden’s earmarks somehow having the power to transform America when combined with Obamessiah-y goodness, Popkin and Schuster note the staggering hypocrisy between Barack Obama’s primary rhetoric and his defense of his running mate now
Link has video, but if you can't view it here is the transcript:
DAVID SCHUSTER: As far as Democrat Joe Biden, the GOP has a clock running on their website counting the minutes since Republicans first called on Biden to release his earmarks, over 9 days and 23 hours. He has released his earmarks for this year but not previous. Where does Joe Biden stand on earmarks?
JIM POPKIN: Well, Joe Biden also has been an active participant in the earmark game. Just this year alone, he disclosed that he’s requested $342 million in earmarks. And what the McCain campaign, the GOP, is asking for is a more fulsome list. He’s been in Congress since 1972 and they’re asking for a list dating back over those 3 decades; his entire list of earmark requests which presumably would be much higher than the $342 million that he’s acknowledged just this year alone.
SCHUSTER: And it’s so interesting because just this past week the Washington Times wrote, in March when Mr. Obama released his 2005 and 2006 earmark requests, his communications director called on then-rival Senator Hillary Clinton to do the same. “If Senator Clinton will not agree in joining Senator Obama will not releasing her earmark requests, voters should ask why she doesn’t believe they have the right to know.” So, Jim, why doesn’t the Obama campaign believe voters have right to know about Joe Biden?
POPKIN: You know, I think it may be a legitimate question to ask. I don’t know if — any of these folks should be throwing stones. I will say, however, that Senator McCain has always said that he has never asked for any earmarks, and one of the major nonprofit groups that looks at earmarks took a look at a list that the Obama campaign prepared on some– I’ll call them alleged requests back from the early ’90s and could find kind of no compelling evidence that McCain had ever requested or received any earmarks for his state.
SCHUSTER: NBC’s Jim Popkin, thanks for coming on. Great stuff as always, we appreciate it.
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opnion Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:19:32pm |
re: #453 Sharmuta
So he's admitting he produced this professionally, albeit alone and not with the help of his daddy's PR firm. THough Firm members helped him play sock puppet games on company time....
However- if it was produced with actual voice over talent resulting in billing, does this need to be filed with the FEC?
The guy has apparently studied the same Saul Alinsky playbook that Barry learned as a Community Organizer, Lie LIe Lie!
I love how he as the perp, has now jumped up on the cross as the victim
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StinkHammer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:20:38pm |
re: #457 ArmyWife
If we are REAL pirates, we are not taking them home. I am reading this book on Capt. Kidd (who wasn't a pirate, btw), but am now fascinated with what real pirates did versus Pirates of the Caribbean.
Would that be Pirate Hunter by Richard Zacks? That's a terrific book.
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kansas Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:20:39pm |
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celtic templar Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:20:48pm |
re: #453 Sharmuta
So he's admitting he produced this professionally, albeit alone and not with the help of his daddy's PR firm. THough Firm members helped him play sock puppet games on company time....
However- if it was produced with actual voice over talent resulting in billing, does this need to be filed with the FEC?
Doesn't really just boil down to attacks on Palin were made by a marketing firm that has direct ties with Obama? Winner can spin all he wants, that is the narrative from this.
Keeping it simple, let them spin themselves in circles.
These attacks are phony, the attackers are spinmeisters, Obama and Axelrod are related to them.
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opnion Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:21:30pm |
re: #463 loflyer
One of my favs, Cheese burger in paradise
Yup, & you can get one on the wharf in Lahina. Ok, they are all over the place, but tjhat gives you a reason to go to Maui.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:21:45pm |
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Alouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:22:02pm |
re: #457 ArmyWife
If we are REAL pirates, we are not taking them home. I am reading this book on Capt. Kidd (who wasn't a pirate, btw), but am now fascinated with what real pirates did versus Pirates of the Caribbean. For the record, I would take Johnny Depp in costume home. So long as his mouth was duct taped shut.
What can you expect from a movie that is based on a ride at Disneyland?
The Pirates III movie blew massive chunks.
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:22:55pm |
re: #67 vbspurs
Poor guy. Still, he could've looked like Sharpton.
"vbs" -
I'll bet that just like "Ocho-Cinco" - his politics are "Ocho-STINKO.
-S-
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opnion Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:22:59pm |
re: #468 celtic templar
Doesn't really just boil down to attacks on Palin were made by a marketing firm that has direct ties with Obama? Winner can spin all he wants, that is the narrative from this.
Keeping it simple, let them spin themselves in circles.
These attacks are phony, the attackers are spinmeisters, Obama and Axelrod are related to them.
David Axlerod is a certified Chicago Machine, dirtbag. He will do anything.
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:23:10pm |
re: #459 reine.de.tout
I have some!
chocolate fudge with cream cheese icing.Come on over!
okaaaaaaaay,
i'll bring the ice cream and . . .
vodka
;0
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:23:30pm |
re: #468 celtic templar
Doesn't really just boil down to attacks on Palin were made by a marketing firm that has direct ties with Obama? Winner can spin all he wants, that is the narrative from this.
Keeping it simple, let them spin themselves in circles.
These attacks are phony, the attackers are spinmeisters, Obama and Axelrod are related to them.
Then he just screwed up admitting the video was his.
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StinkHammer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:25:12pm |
re: #471 ArmyWife
Yes, and its great!
I agree. I also saw him discussing the book on C-SPAN.
I was particularly fascinated about the huge importance the use of various flags played in the whole seafaring era, as he relates in the book.
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celtic templar Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:25:22pm |
re: #474 opnion
David Axlerod is a certified Chicago Machine, dirtbag. He will do anything.
We know that, but what is the argument for those that will take ESWINNER's response at face value? For me it is simple, stealth attacks on Palin that marketers close to the Obama campaign are trying to cover up and make it look like everyday folk.
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kansas Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:25:31pm |
re: #476 Sharmuta
Then he just screwed up admitting the video was his.
If there were any actual journalists in the MSM, it would have been a screw up. Otherwise, the only place we'll see it is here. Maybe on Fox where they'll cover both sides.
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:26:32pm |
re: #466 StinkHammer
Would that be Pirate Hunter by Richard Zacks? That's a terrific book.
Yaaaar, real pirates are absolutely brutal, ruthless and did not take many prisoners, unless they were buxom beauties or cabin boys. Not into Cabin boys, but lately I have been pretty ruthless at work. I am looking for a pirate flag to hang from my cube....
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celtic templar Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:27:10pm |
re: #476 Sharmuta
That's what I meant, the attacks on Palin were phony, the spinmeisters who are tied to the Obama/Axelrod campaign admitted that they financed it - probable a FEC violation. Hope, Change, etc.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:27:57pm |
Has the Obama campaign fitted Biden for his muzzle yet?
The Story Behind Biden's Emergency Helicopter Landing in Afghanistan
Biden earlier this month:
"What I care about is: What in God's name is she going to do -- along with John McCain -- about the thousands of people who don't have health care?" Biden said according to the Chicago Sun-Times. Biden said he would ask Palin about "
The superhighway of terror between Pakistan and Afghanistan where my helicopter was forced down...John McCain wants to know where Bin Laden and the gates of Hell are? I can tell him where. That's where Al Qaeda is. That's where Bin Laden is. It's not in the country of Iraq."
In February 2008, Biden -- along with Sens. John Kerry, D-Mass., and Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. -- was on a chopper that made an emergency landing in the mountains of Afghanistan.
A snowstorm had forced them down.
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:27:59pm |
re: #477 StinkHammer
Right! And none of them Jolly Rogers. If we go pirate over at Kos, I think we should go ahead and raise the red triangle flag, and though not authentic, a lizard skull.
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Alberta Oil Peon Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:28:01pm |
re: #198 neocon hippie
After all, this is the locale of "Hippie From Olema", a parody of "Okie from Muskogee".
While "Obama" is a tiny town, it is the gateway from the more populated areas of Marin, and hence from the entire Bay Area, to the beautiful Point Reyes National Seashore, so the sign will get a lot of viewings.
I foresee fun pranks ahead for this town, like hanging a toilet seat over the "O" in "Obama" on the welcome sign.
(Not vandalism if nothing is destroyed or damaged in the course of so doing.)
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StinkHammer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:28:53pm |
re: #480 loflyer
Yaaaar, real pirates are absolutely brutal, ruthless and did not take many prisoners, unless they were buxom beauties or cabin boys....
"Good job, Wesley. Sleep well, and mostly likely kill you in the morning."
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:29:33pm |
re: #480 loflyer
I have a "The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves" Flag in my office that I got from Cape Hatteras. I am the HR Director. I find it hysterical.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:30:05pm |
re: #486 StinkHammer
"Good job, Wesley. Sleep well, and mostly likely kill you in the morning."
I think that movie ranks about third as most quoted on the internet.
/would research it but feeling lazy this evening.
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debutaunt Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:31:38pm |
re: #467 kansas
Tamron is advocating some worthless remedy. Wanna get in on the Pyramid?
Too cool! We won't have to exercise anymore!
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StinkHammer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:31:46pm |
re: #482 buzzsawmonkey
Pirates--real pirates--are interesting in a swashbuckly way. Blackbeard, Bluebeard, Henry Morgan, Kidd (yes, I know he started out as a privateer) got up to some amazing exploits.
And most were absolutely ruthless, as might be expected. I saw a fascinating documentary on either Discovery or History channel a few years back (around the time of the POTC movie phenomenon), which revealed much of the truth behind the Romanticized pirates (Blackbeard, Morgan, etc.) to be rife with horrendous actions.
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:31:46pm |
re: #483 loppyd
For the love of Pete. He is telling John McCain where the gates of hell are? He is really redefining stupid, isn't he?
As Mark Levin says, this is the ticket of Dufus and Dufus.
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NoSubmission Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:31:58pm |
re: #475 nyc redneck
hi nycredneck-
can you give me a call when you can? i seem to have misplaced your number..
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:32:04pm |
re: #470 BlueCanuck
re: #444 loflyer
re: #445 ArmyWife
Just for you three reprobates. ;)
Yaar, matey that was fun thanx!
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BlueCanuck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:32:49pm |
heh heh heh heh. The meaning of words is important. And the culture they are used in.
Misunderstanding terms
One reason the Services have trouble operating jointly is that they don’t speak the same language.
For example, if you told Marines to “secure a building,” they would assault the building, capture it, and defend it with suppressive fire and close combat.
Army personnel would occupy the building so no one could enter.
The Air Force would take out a three-year lease with an option to buy
Navy personnel they would turn off the lights and lock the doors.
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:32:51pm |
re: #492 NoSubmission
hi nycredneck-
can you give me a call when you can? i seem to have misplaced your number..
ok.
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HDrepub Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:33:22pm |
re: #445 ArmyWife
wasn't that a few days ago? Or is it talk like a pirate week?
can we all go to KOS and yell PREPARE TO BE BOARDED?
The black flag shall be unfurled extermination and death should be proclaimed against the hellish miscreants who persist in polluting our planet with their crimes. We should stop the effusion of BS, and arrest the horrors of dirty tricks, by terrific slaughter of the foe, with overwhelming and unsparing vengeance.
Take no prisoners!
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arethusa Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:33:44pm |
I hope everyone has seen this: McCain backer attacks media at town hall
It gives me hope.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:34:05pm |
re: #493 loflyer
Glad you enjoyed. I wonder if there are any crews on Lake Ontario looking for a new shipmate.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:34:30pm |
From Ethan Winner's statement:
Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.
That video was pulled within an hour (or less) of the Jawa Report which was posted in the middle of the night.
Somehow it is difficult, very difficult to believe that his family started receiving threatening and abusive phone calls and e-mails, in the middle of the night, when most people were already asleep, and within what must have been mere minutes of reading the Jawa Report.
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celtic templar Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:34:32pm |
re: #483 loppyd
Has the Obama campaign fitted Biden for his muzzle yet?
The Story Behind Biden's Emergency Helicopter Landing in Afghanistan
Biden earlier this month:
Ah slow Joe, the gift that keeps on giving ... He's going to show McCain where the Gates of Hell are? Nice ... I guess the Hanoi Hilton was a spa and resort ...
Did Bosnian snipers shoot the helicopter down? Oh no, just snow ... lame ...
Obama and Biden: Change you're bored with already.
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:34:52pm |
re: #487 ArmyWife
I have a "The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves" Flag in my office that I got from Cape Hatteras. I am the HR Director. I find it hysterical.
Arrrr, I hope your employee's do to! Either that or company morale is tanked.....
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Buck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:35:54pm |
re: #184 Walter L. Newton
Love it. I just stopped smoking 3 weeks ago. I didn't use anything. Just stopped. Doctor wanted me to help out my BP before the hernia operation.
Congrats and good luck
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:35:58pm |
re: #501 celtic templar
Obama and Biden: Change you're bored with already.
They should change it to:
OBAMA
Like, Totally Not Bush! Ever! OMG 4 SERIUS
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HDrepub Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:36:37pm |
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:36:43pm |
re: #496 buzzsawmonkey
Yes, they were for the most part merciless, murderous scum, which is why they were cut down without mercy when caught--unless, of course, they were hired as privateers.
Yaar, legalized piracy. Sounds like easy money, or a quick death!
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Alouette Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:36:59pm |
re: #500 reine.de.tout
From Ethan Winner's statement:
That video was pulled within an hour (or less) of the Jawa Report which was posted in the middle of the night.Somehow it is difficult, very difficult to believe that his family started receiving threatening and abusive phone calls and e-mails, in the middle of the night, when most people were already asleep, and within what must have been mere minutes of reading the Jawa Report.
The abusive and threatening phone calls were from Obama, for screwing up.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:37:00pm |
re: #419 Sharmuta
And this is different than the treatment Sarah Palin and her family have come under how?
I was up waiting for this report because it was being teased here.
But it was the middle of the night, fer cryin' out loud - most people didn't see this until today.
It just strains credulity to think that people started calling and threatening his family within minutes of that story being posted, leading to him removing the video WITHIN AN HOUR or so of the story being posted.
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JeremiahRight Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:37:21pm |
re: #490 StinkHammer
And most were absolutely ruthless, as might be expected. I saw a fascinating documentary on either Discovery or History channel a few years back (around the time of the POTC movie phenomenon), which revealed much of the truth behind the Romanticized pirates (Blackbeard, Morgan, etc.) to be rife with horrendous actions.
The History Channel rocks!
True Caribbean Pirates
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reine.de.tout Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:37:58pm |
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StinkHammer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:38:13pm |
re: #496 buzzsawmonkey
Yes, they were for the most part merciless, murderous scum, which is why they were cut down without mercy when caught--unless, of course, they were hired as privateers.
Yup. Yes. From what I understand, Bartholomew ("Black Bart") Roberts -- upon whom Depp's Jack Sparrow is loosely based -- was an absolute monster.
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:38:16pm |
re: #502 loflyer
It works the best on the Union. They like to refer to me as a reject lawyer, which is somewhat true. I also have a magic 8 ball and a "bullshit" button (like the staples easy button) on my desk. I tell the union the 8 ball is for tough decisions. So far, so good. The BS button is for grievance meetings.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:38:23pm |
re: #500 reine.de.tout
From Ethan Winner's statement:
That video was pulled within an hour (or less) of the Jawa Report which was posted in the middle of the night.Somehow it is difficult, very difficult to believe that his family started receiving threatening and abusive phone calls and e-mails, in the middle of the night, when most people were already asleep, and within what must have been mere minutes of reading the Jawa Report.
EXCELLENT point!
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celtic templar Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:38:45pm |
At Hot Air, McCain campaign realize NYT is a “pro-Obama advocacy organization”
I can name you a few more Senator McCain, but better late than never.
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:39:02pm |
re: #506 HDrepub
Water boarding might be a bit too far for kos kids. I am flexible, though. The panties shall come from walmart.
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celtic templar Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:39:21pm |
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Tamron Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:39:32pm |
re: #437 ArmyWife
Go here.No global warming, no oxygen depletion. Sorry. I am not part of the "sickness" industry either.
Ooops. Sorry, ArmyWife. I didn't mean to mislead you. I like your posts. My point here has nothing to do with global warming, which is a lot of bunk -- here in Anchorage we just finished a record cool summer, with only 2 days above 70 degrees. I personally suspect that earth temperatures track right along with sunspot activity, but I've only heard bits and pieces of why that might be so. Might be wrong -- gotta go ask Algore.
My main point was that it's been my observation that some people's bodies (especially smokers) have been compromised regarding oxygen usage or oxygen content, to the point where they can receive an extra benefit if they increase the oxygen level in their body. They might just 'catch a bug' too easily, compared with someone else under the same circumstances. Worst case is the elderly person who has to carry an oxygen bottle around with them.
The fact of long-term atmospheric oxygen depletion, as mentioned in my previous message is not the primary issue, just a side-note. NO connection with global warming, believe me!
If someone can benefit from some sort of oxygen supplement or treatment, and if they don't know the finer points of what is available to them today (for example, I met someone who got rid of a persistent skin disease by using a hyperbaric chamber) then steer them that direction and let them make up their own mind.
--And no, I am not pushing hyperbaric chambers, here. I'm pushing a simple concept regarding health. I have no connection to the healthcare profession, and don't want one.
To get me off this particular hook, do a google search for 'oxygen therapy'.
.
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StinkHammer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:39:58pm |
re: #510 JeremiahRight
The History Channel rocks!
True Caribbean Pirates
Dat's dee one!
Thanks for researching what I'm too lazy to look up.
;^)
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:40:32pm |
re: #482 buzzsawmonkey
Pirates--real pirates--are interesting in a swashbuckly way. Blackbeard, Bluebeard, Henry Morgan, Kidd (yes, I know he started out as a privateer) got up to some amazing exploits.
The Disney movies--like most movies nowadays--couldn't be bothered with the drama of genuine history. They had to throw in a bunch of ghost stories and supernatural garbage (gotta give the CGI folks their chance), along with the mincing posturing of Johnny Depp playing Keith Richards in 17th-century drag.
Hollywood used to crank out a score or two of nominally historical pictures every year. Producing even one a year is beyond the powers of the filmschool graduates that now populate the industry.
Hollywoods ignorance of history is a protection mechanism for the moonbat. History tends to contradict their beliefs.
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:40:48pm |
You know guys, I did not mean to drive this thread towards pirates, and I will revert to normal speak half the time. But it sounds like I am not the only one having fun with this. Yaaar....
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BlueCanuck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:41:06pm |
re: #517 ArmyWife
Water boarding might be a bit too far for kos kids. I am flexible, though. The panties shall come from walmart.
Not at all, just toss in a little soap and they will be ready for polite company.
/as long as they are gagged.
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StinkHammer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:41:21pm |
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HDrepub Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:41:22pm |
re: #517 ArmyWife
Water boarding might be a bit too far for kos kids. I am flexible, though. The panties shall come from walmart.
I am willing to compromise, but the panties must not be new but used, preferably in plus sizes.
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:42:10pm |
re: #378 jacksontn
From Ace:
Fresh from the Jawas:
Statement of Ethan Winner
The following is in response to questions I have received regarding the post on the Jawa Report website.I produced and posted on the Internet the video entitled "Sarah Palin: A Heartbeat Away."
The idea for the video was mine. No one paid me to produce it. The only out-of-pocket cost will be the fee for the voice-over narrator, which I will pay personally when I receive an invoice. Contrary to the allegation in the Jawa Report, the voice-over artist has never done any work for the Obama campaign. I retained her through a talent agency based solely on the quality of her voice.
Neither the Obama campaign nor any independent political action committee has had a connection with the making and/or posting of this video. Just like the thousands of Americans who have posted videos on the Internet regarding the current Presidential campaign, I produced this video as an expression of my right to free speech, which is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.
I believe the American people have a right and a need to know information about candidates for political office and their views. I made this video because I think it is important for the public to be aware of the association between Sarah and Todd Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party. The New York Times has reported that the Alaskan Independence Party website describes the party as seeking, in the words of the party, "a range of solutions to the conflicts between federal and local authority," including "advocacy for state's rights, through a return to territorial status, all the way to complete independence and nationhood status for Alaska."
While a number of media outlets have said that reports that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party may have been erroneous, her attendance at the party's 1994 convention, her video speech to the 2008 convention and her husband's membership in the Alaskan Independence Party have not been called into question.
Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.
"J-TN" -
I knew Tony Schwartz - He of the Daisy/Bomb Ad for LBJ in 1964 - this guy is no Tony Schwartz - Tony wouldn't have done something like that without being paid. Tony had Center Left Political Beliefs, as did I at the time.
As to the ALASKA INDEPENDENCE PARTY - while I disagree with secession, and would fight it, push to shove - I DO UNDERSTAND the reasons. A Republic of Alaska would be a "Little Russia" if allowed to exploit its resources in full. Similar movements exist in ALBERTA and did in of all places STATEN ISLAND to the extent of seceding from NYC - Pre-Giuliani, and in VERMONT today ON THE LEFT. The view from Alaska (One of my Boss' Companies deals in Alaska themed arts and crafts) is that Alaskans to a greater or lesser degree see the "Lower 48" as looking at them as being an "Environmental Theme Park" rather than a State.
-S-
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:43:08pm |
re: #500 reine.de.tout
{reine} It was my birthday yesterday...And for a surprise my son came home from Camp p. for a 72..everybody knew but me..It was a surprise i'll
never forget...He is out with his girlfriend tonight...
Can you believe in the middle of my birthday party/Colts party..everybody was here..the beer was flowing and food was great..Mrs. Hoopster calls my cell and asked me into the bedroom..
A few minutes later i walk out and my son was kicked back in my chair sipping a beer..I almost had a stroke!
Everybody started laughing and clapping and dare i say a few tears..
Best birthday present..EVAH!
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:43:10pm |
re: #514 ArmyWife
It works the best on the Union. They like to refer to me as a reject lawyer, which is somewhat true. I also have a magic 8 ball and a "bullshit" button (like the staples easy button) on my desk. I tell the union the 8 ball is for tough decisions. So far, so good. The BS button is for grievance meetings.
Where can I buy a "magic eight ball" matey? Been wanting one for years. Me mates keep asking the dumbest questions, and I want to just shake the thing up and let them see the answer!
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StinkHammer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:43:31pm |
re: #517 ArmyWife
Water boarding might be a bit too far for kos kids. I am flexible, though. The panties shall come from walmart.
Hell, just tie 'em to a shooping cart and wheel 'em through a Wal-Mart. Our own version of keelhauling, so to speak.
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Alberta Oil Peon Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:44:46pm |
re: #252 Silhouette
It hurts Mr. Silhouette to pay $4-$5 or whatever a pack, when he can see tobacco growing in the field beside the store.
SHouldn't it be cheaper here? ;-)
I've never been a smoker, but one thing has always puzzled me about them is that they never seem to make any serious effort to avoid the cost of "tailor-mades". I know folks who smoke "roll-your-owns" but they still pay a stiff price for the cans of tobacco, and the rolling papers.
Now, tobacco is a weed. I don't profess to know the law in the USA, but here in Canada, a private individual can buy seed, and grow it for their own use legally. I'm sure a ten foot square plot of the stuff would make a vast quantity of coffin nails. And theymight even be less deadly, seeing as they would lack all the shite the tobacco companies put in there to make 'em burn faster.
If I were unfortunate enough to be in the grip of the addiction, I would at least have a shot at growing my own.
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:45:45pm |
re: #485 Alberta Oil Peon
I foresee fun pranks ahead for this town, like hanging a toilet seat over the "O" in "Obama" on the welcome sign.
(Not vandalism if nothing is destroyed or damaged in the course of so doing.)
"A-O-P" -
An Appropriately Sized "N" tacked on to the sign before the "O" would do.
-S-
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:45:46pm |
re: #530 loflyer
Where can I buy a "magic eight ball" matey? Been wanting one for years. Me mates keep asking the dumbest questions, and I want to just shake the thing up and let them see the answer!
Spencer Gifts, make sure it an original Mattel, the others suck. The rip-off have stupid answers and are usually in Chinglish.
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yah Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:45:56pm |
Did I hear this correctly? Bill Clinton praises McCain on The View
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JeremiahRight Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:46:38pm |
re: #522 StinkHammer
Dat's dee one!
Thanks for researching what I'm too lazy to look up.
;^)
No sweat. I'm addicted to the new HD History Channel. It's my only vice. Well, except for the booze and the womanizing but you know what I mean...
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:46:56pm |
re: #520 Tamron
If you think this works, great. Knock yourself out. The science doesn't really add up and I'd be concerned someone would jump on this with a serious health condition that needs real medical treatment - I would exercise great caution in pushing it toward others.
Just so you know, the stuff you used to back up your product is based on carbon dioxide causing global warming and depleting oxygen - that was his argument - so if you don't believe in global warming, you probably shouldn't be ingesting this stuff either.
Whatever you chose, this isn't a personal attack on you. I'll warn you first if I do that! =)
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:47:11pm |
Magic 8 ball...
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:47:53pm |
re: #528 Dr. Shalit
"J-TN" -
I knew Tony Schwartz - He of the Daisy/Bomb Ad for LBJ in 1964 - this guy is no Tony Schwartz - Tony wouldn't have done something like that without being paid. Tony had Center Left Political Beliefs, as did I at the time.
As to the ALASKA INDEPENDENCE PARTY - while I disagree with secession, and would fight it, push to shove - I DO UNDERSTAND the reasons. A Republic of Alaska would be a "Little Russia" if allowed to exploit its resources in full. Similar movements exist in ALBERTA and did in of all places STATEN ISLAND to the extent of seceding from NYC - Pre-Giuliani, and in VERMONT today ON THE LEFT. The view from Alaska (One of my Boss' Companies deals in Alaska themed arts and crafts) is that Alaskans to a greater or lesser degree see the "Lower 48" as looking at them as being an "Environmental Theme Park" rather than a State.-S-
Yaar, we look at Alaska as a state with vast natural resources absorbing me federal tax revenue at a double the rate of the lower 48. Now my question is does the state of Alaska produce twice the federal tax revenue of the lower 48?
/ enquiring pirates want to know!
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:48:36pm |
re: #527 HDrepub
So we need to round up plus sized volunteers who are willing to wear Walmart undies? This pirate stuff is getting difficult!
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:49:03pm |
re: #535 Walter L. Newton
Spencer Gifts, make sure it an original Mattel, the others suck. The rip-off have stupid answers and are usually in Chinglish.
Thanx Matey!
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HelloDare Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:49:22pm |
Military Pay Grades
E-9 Sergeant Major
E-8 Master Sergeant
E-7 Sergeant First Class
E-6 Staff Sergeant
E-5 Sergeant
E-4 Specialist Corporal
E-3 Private First Class
E-2 Private
E-1 Private
E-0 Just let me eat my Waffle
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:49:57pm |
re: #540 loflyer
Yaar, we look at Alaska as a state with vast natural resources absorbing me federal tax revenue at a double the rate of the lower 48. Now my question is does the state of Alaska produce twice the federal tax revenue of the lower 48?
/ enquiring pirates want to know!
"lo" -
Unleashed - far above that! That is all.
-S-
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jwb7605 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:50:05pm |
re: #541 ArmyWife
So we need to round up plus sized volunteers who are willing to wear Walmart undies? This pirate stuff is getting difficult!
I vote panties on rounded up Kos kids, but no outright torture.
Drop them off in a bank lobby and leave quickly.
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J.S. Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:50:47pm |
OT
Lou Dobbs (the supposed "independent") is claiming that the "deal" (Paulson, etc.) may be not going through...
I'm finding this quite incredible (this is being held up by Democrats? whiskey, tango, foxtrot going here...)
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:51:37pm |
re: #531 StinkHammer
Hell, just tie 'em to a shooping cart and wheel 'em through a Wal-Mart. Our own version of keelhauling, so to speak.
Wal*hauling?
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:52:04pm |
re: #530 loflyer
Let me train you on the use of the magic 8 ball. It is a powerful tool, so be careful.
You must ask it a yes or no question. Whatever your rogues are asking, you must phrase it so the magic 8 ball is capable of answering, otherwise it will just through you off and your chi gets out of whack.
Go with caution.
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:52:10pm |
re: #545 jwb7605
I vote panties on rounded up Kos kids, but no outright torture.
Drop them off in a bank lobby and leave quickly.
"j" -
Re: Panties - HEADS or TAILS? Inquiring minds would like to know.
-S-
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Tamron Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:53:15pm |
re: #442 Outrider
I produced this video as an expression of my right to free speech, which is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.
"I deliberately produced this slander, defamation of character, and libel as an expression of my right to free speech, which is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution."
"Yarrrrr. Sharks in the water, mateys! Jab the lubber in the ass with one of those sharp, pointy little swords!"
.
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J.S. Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:53:17pm |
Dobbs is also saying that Obama's campaign is opening up a sizeable lead...
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:53:20pm |
re: #536 yah
Did I hear this correctly? Bill Clinton praises McCain on The View
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
Well he has to pave the way for an HRC run in 2012. Can't do that with a big 0 in the White House.
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johnnyreb Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:53:23pm |
re: #536 yah
Did I hear this correctly? Bill Clinton praises McCain on The View
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
Did he say
We vote for some people because of race or gender?
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jwb7605 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:53:43pm |
re: #549 Dr. Shalit
"j" -
Re: Panties - HEADS or TAILS? Inquiring minds would like to know.
-S-
HEADS. Scream something about a possible robbery on the way out.
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:53:58pm |
re: #531 StinkHammer
This made me laugh out loud and it woke up the peacefully sleeping chihuahuas.
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StinkHammer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:54:12pm |
re: #547 CyanSnowHawk
Wal*hauling?
I like it.
Now how do you post one of those superscript copyright symbols to go with it?
/The limits of my Interweb savvy on display
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:54:56pm |
re: #546 J.S.
OT
Lou Dobbs (the supposed "independent") is claiming that the "deal" (Paulson, etc.) may be not going through...
I'm finding this quite incredible (this is being held up by Democrats? whiskey, tango, foxtrot going here...)
Pelosi and Reid have decided to let the problem fester as long as they can get away with it. They see it as helping their team. A financial Katrina.
Katrina is an act of nature.
A financial collapse will be an act of neglect on their part which they will blame on Republicans.
Party before country.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:55:06pm |
re: #529 HoosierHoops
{reine} It was my birthday yesterday...And for a surprise my son came home from Camp p. for a 72..everybody knew but me..It was a surprise i'll
never forget...He is out with his girlfriend tonight...
Can you believe in the middle of my birthday party/Colts party..everybody was here..the beer was flowing and food was great..Mrs. Hoopster calls my cell and asked me into the bedroom..
A few minutes later i walk out and my son was kicked back in my chair sipping a beer..I almost had a stroke!
Everybody started laughing and clapping and dare i say a few tears..
Best birthday present..EVAH!
{HH}
That must have been a wonderful present, like you said, the best present evah! I'm so glad you got such a great present for your b-day!
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:55:21pm |
re: #557 StinkHammer
We don't need savvy! We ARE savvy! We are pirates! (arrgh?)
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:55:31pm |
re: #380 Truck Monkey
What's that line from Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
Alcohol, pure and simple. For the pure and simple.
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:56:23pm |
re: #560 reine.de.tout
Yay to your son. Those boys in uniform - they are something else.
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J.S. Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:56:32pm |
You know, I'm suspecting that the Democrats want to tank the American economy; cause a recession/depression (don't care at all about the consequences) worldwide; then blame Republicans; and get that Freak Hussein into office...that's the strategy.
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:56:41pm |
BTW - the press will do nothing but stand by and whistle rather than go through the resolutions and laws passed to lower lending standards under the Clintons.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:56:42pm |
re: #543 HelloDare
Military Pay Grades
E-9 Sergeant Major
E-8 Master Sergeant
E-7 Sergeant First Class
E-6 Staff Sergeant
E-5 Sergeant
E-4 Specialist Corporal
E-3 Private First Class
E-2 Private
E-1 Private
E-0 Just let me eat my Waffle
Those are almost the Army grades.
E-9 Sergeant Major
E-8 Master/First Sergeant
E-7 Sergeant First Class
E-6 Staff Sergeant
E-5 Sergeant
E-4 Specialist/Corporal
E-3 Private First Class
E-2 Private
E-1 Private
E-0 Just let me eat my Waffle
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HDrepub Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:56:47pm |
re: #541 ArmyWife
So we need to round up plus sized volunteers who are willing to wear Walmart undies? This pirate stuff is getting difficult!
I love it when a plan comes together.
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:56:49pm |
re: #554 jwb7605
HEADS. Scream something about a possible robbery on the way out.
"j" -
OK, just hope your solution won't be seen as an "Abu-Boo-Boo" - after all they are SOOO Sensitive.
-S-
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:57:11pm |
re: #544 Dr. Shalit
"lo" -
Unleashed - far above that! That is all.
-S-
I thought that might be the case, I wonder what network jobs are going for in Jeanue, I like the idea of the state and feds paying me five grand to reside in Alaska. I just can't take constant 30 below zero temps.
/Pirates are wimps at temperatures that cold....
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:57:14pm |
re: #564 J.S.
You know, I'm suspecting that the Democrats want to tank the American economy; cause a recession/depression (don't care at all about the consequences) worldwide; then blame Republicans; and get that Freak Hussein into office...that's the strategy.
Yes it is. Obama was behind before this hit.
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Wishing Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:57:55pm |
re: #536 yah
Wow...Bill saying JUST SAY NO! to dirty politics? am stunned...and, i must say, impressed
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JeremiahRight Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:58:04pm |
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J.S. Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:58:05pm |
re: #559 karmic_inquisitor
Exactly my thoughts (as I was typing, you posted...beat me to it...)...Can the "patriotism" of Democrats be questioned yet?
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jwb7605 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:58:08pm |
re: #557 StinkHammer
I like it.
Now how do you post one of those superscript copyright symbols to go with it?
/The limits of my Interweb savvy on display
like this: <sup>superscript text</sup>
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:58:13pm |
Why does every Love and Rockets song sound the same?
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StinkHammer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:58:37pm |
re: #561 ArmyWife
We don't need savvy! We ARE savvy! We are pirates! (arrgh?)
Umm -- can I be a pirate tomorrow? I've got a peach cobbler in the oven this afternoon....
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:58:43pm |
re: #548 ArmyWife
Let me train you on the use of the magic 8 ball. It is a powerful tool, so be careful.
You must ask it a yes or no question. Whatever your rogues are asking, you must phrase it so the magic 8 ball is capable of answering, otherwise it will just through you off and your chi gets out of whack.
Go with caution.
Yaaar, do I have to become "one" with silly thing? Or can I just briskly shake it with a yes or no question?
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3 wood Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:59:14pm |
Good evening.
Following up on some posts I made earlier, if there is anybody with the SEC out there, get a message to your bosses tomorrow, please. When the short sale ban was put through, there were some loop holes left, especially in the options pit. Options were basically exempted.
Therefore, the "smart money" took a hike today and stood on the sidelines, causing the market drop, until the rules of trading get balanced again.
If you go down the list of stocks where short selling was banned, they almost all dropped like a rock today. That is because institutional investors dumped the stock until the loop holes get closed.
So hey SEC, close the ban loop holes, Mkay? That, or just reinstate the "uptick rule" enforce it, and remove the ban.
The market will jump like a small mouth going after a bee if you do.
I'm hearing this direct from people trading on the floor today.
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:59:29pm |
re: #576 StinkHammer
I think pirates like peach cobbler. In fact, I think the Pirate Hunter book has a whole chapter on cobbler and pirates. Just add a bit of rum, and there you go!
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 4:59:46pm |
re: #537 JeremiahRight
No sweat. I'm addicted to the new HD History Channel. It's my only vice. Well, except for the booze and the womanizing but you know what I mean...
Booze and womanizing are vices?
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:00:01pm |
re: #573 J.S.
Can the "patriotism" of Democrats be questioned yet?
Never. Republicans are evil, donchano.
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:01:26pm |
re: #578 3 wood
Were the dumped positions offset with OTM options purchases? Just curious.
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:01:29pm |
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Alberta Oil Peon Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:01:51pm |
re: #311 Tamron
Say Dianna, I'm familiar with what you're referring to. Take a look at increasing the oxygen level in your body, with a harmless product like THIS. Take a swig once or twice a day.
If your body is lightly deficient in oxygen (and if you're too lazy to do regular aerobic workouts, like some of us), then anaerobic ('oxygen hating') bacteria can flourish in the respiratory system. Smoking increases the negative effect, by further decreasing the oxygen level. If you raise your oxygen content by whatever means, this lessens the effect which any bacteria might be causing. I know someone who once got rid of a full-blown case of pneumonia in just 24 hours, with no drugs, by getting a special oxygen treatment from an alternative-medicine MD.
Not prescribing medicine, just relaying a personal experience. Oxygen is an element. Get more of it into your system and see if it helps. Several hundred years ago the oxygen level in Earth's atmosphere was between 30% and 40%, whereas today it's down around 20%. Thus we have to compensate, and especially those of us whose respiration system has somehow been compromised. It makes a big difference.
.
Magnesium peroxide, and dissolved oxygen are anti-oxidants?
Who knew?
In all seriousness, this sounds like a load of crap quackery. I'd love to see a cite* that proves the Earth's atmosphere had higher oxygen 2 centuries ago.
/*from a reputable source
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StinkHammer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:01:58pm |
#572 JeremiahRight#574 jwb7605
Thanky -- I'll try to remember.
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opinionated Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:02:01pm |
Caroline Glick on the Palin disinvite. Rips Jewish Democrat activists a new one.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:02:02pm |
Wow- finding new admiration for Mike Gravel
[Link: freshtracks.us...]
And the media hacks are sooooooooo obvious!
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:02:34pm |
re: #578 3 wood
BTW - the SEC is staffed so small that they rarely do anything except rubber stamp what others bring to them. Rare that the SEC leads any investigation or action, IMO.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:02:55pm |
re: #575 karmic_inquisitor
Why does every Love and Rockets song sound the same?
The better question is why are you listening to Love & Rockets?
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J.S. Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:02:55pm |
If Hussein gets into office -- there will be yet another guarantee -- and that is this -- all his potential criminal activities with respect to his crony friends, neighbors and relatives, who received X number of "loans" at cutrate prices, insider frauds, etc., will be buried.
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:03:04pm |
re: #578 3 wood
Good evening.
Following up on some posts I made earlier, if there is anybody with the SEC out there, get a message to your bosses tomorrow, please. When the short sale ban was put through, there were some loop holes left, especially in the options pit. Options were basically exempted.Therefore, the "smart money" took a hike today and stood on the sidelines, causing the market drop, until the rules of trading get balanced again.
If you go down the list of stocks where short selling was banned, they almost all dropped like a rock today. That is because institutional investors dumped the stock until the loop holes get closed.
So hey SEC, close the ban loop holes, Mkay? That, or just reinstate the "uptick rule" enforce it, and remove the ban.
The market will jump like a small mouth going after a bee if you do.
I'm hearing this direct from people trading on the floor today.
Arrrrr, Don't know anyone in the SEC, hopefully see some SEC lurker will see this post....
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yah Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:03:06pm |
re: #549 Dr. Shalit
Pockets full of jewels and panties, suspected Ceres burglar is 'debriefed'
[Link: www.modbee.com...]
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WhiteRasta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:03:46pm |
re: #564 J.S.
Yes, I agree. The term "Gramscian Whore" comes to mind......
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:03:46pm |
re: #591 Sharmuta
The better question is why are you listening to Love & Rockets?
I have Music Choice on cable. I go to the "retro active" channel when making dinner. And they are playing.
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StinkHammer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:04:34pm |
re: #591 Sharmuta
The better question is why are you listening to Love & Rockets?
Maybe to go with the stone-washed jeans?....
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:04:42pm |
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:04:50pm |
re: #594 yah
Pockets full of jewels and panties, suspected Ceres burglar is 'debriefed'
[Link: www.modbee.com...]
Yaaar! Sound like a pirate with a fetish!
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HDrepub Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:05:28pm |
re: #594 yah
Pockets full of jewels and panties, suspected Ceres burglar is 'debriefed'
[Link: www.modbee.com...]
If he could make his livin', robbin' pretty woman
He could do just what he wants, he could make a killin'
Heh. Panties in his pockets, big dreams in his head.
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:05:34pm |
Just curious. Is it this woman?
A voice that resonates
By JEFFREY RESSNER | 8/25/08 12:18 PM ESTSoothing and smart. Slightly sexy. Raspy, too.
That female voice you’ll be hearing from the rafters of the Pepsi Center at the Democratic National Convention may have a familiar ring to it, since all of the live announcing is being handled by a 40-something mom named Cedering Fox. A “voice talent” veteran, she delivers promotional spots on the four commercial television networks as well as cable channels from CNN to ESPN.
Taking a short break between dialogue coaching and preparing for her stint in Denver, Fox said the gig sounds more glam than the reality.
“I’ll be sitting in a trailer during the entire convention wearing headphones,” she said. Her mission is to try to channel “the voice of God” and introduce delegates, politicians, special guests and many others she’s not aware of (she’s expecting lots of last-minute changes).
Fox got her job the old-fashioned way: by asking for it. After years of doing political voice-overs for the Democratic consulting and advertising agency Greer, Margolis, Mitchell, Burns & Associates, she sent an early heartfelt e-mail to the firm’s partners, volunteering her services.
Asking to do anything that might help elect Barack Obama president, her e-mail noted, “Though I am aware that the conventional wisdom says Democrats don’t need female voices for commercials as much as Republicans do, it occurs to me this paradigm might have shifted, given the fact that Hillary is Barack’s opponent.”
[more]
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:06:02pm |
If you like that Gravel interview, the spinoff to ding is here:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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3 wood Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:06:28pm |
Oh geez. O'Reilly is back on his speculation conspiracy crap again about oil prices.
Bill, the price jumped because the dollar dropped in value today and the futures market sees a jump in demand due to economic growth, you twit.
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Tamron Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:06:55pm |
re: #538 ArmyWife
Just so you know, the stuff you used to back up your product is based on carbon dioxide causing global warming and depleting oxygen - that was his argument - so if you don't believe in global warming, you probably shouldn't be ingesting this stuff either.
? I really don't follow that train of thought.
Splain' me, Lucy....
.
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HDrepub Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:07:49pm |
BBL. Have to perform the three S's. Gentleman's regimen, ya know.
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StinkHammer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:08:07pm |
re: #603 3 wood
Oh geez. O'Reilly is back on his speculation conspiracy crap again about oil prices.
Bill, the price jumped because the dollar dropped in value today and the futures market sees a jump in demand due to economic growth, you twit.
O'Reilly is an absolute populist ass on matters economic.
In addition to being a pompous ass in general. IMHO.
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Alberta Oil Peon Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:09:24pm |
re: #353 nyc redneck
speaking of oxygen levels,
300 million yrs. ago, centipedes were 10 ft. long
and spiders a yard across w/ legs like furry baseball bats.
cockroaches 3 ft. long.
how would you like to be an orkin man back then?
Think of the fun you could have at "bench-shooting" sessions: "Well, I always favor a round of .243 right between the eyes for those roaches, and them spiders fold up like a cheap suit when you nail them with the 12-gauge."
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StinkHammer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:09:28pm |
Okay, I'm outtie. Monday Night Football, and all . . .
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:10:19pm |
re: #604 Tamron
I just followed your link, and then got to the link I posted as an opposing view point. I am no scientist, nor am I a medical anything (well, I am married to a SF Medic, but I don't think that counts). I just clicked a few places and got to "nutty story of the day" and it was your article you posted. Much more clear now, isn't it?
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3 wood Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:10:26pm |
re: #584 karmic_inquisitor
Were the dumped positions offset with OTM options purchases? Just curious.
Don't know for sure.
Guy I talked to at the market close said all his institutional investors dumped their holdings on the banned list cause they were not going to get skinned by the short sellers coming through the options back door. They are going to stand on the sidelines with their cash until the SEC gets a clue and closes the loop hole.
These are not "players" he said, just long term investors.
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:12:02pm |
re: #607 Alberta Oil Peon
Think of the fun you could have at "bench-shooting" sessions: "Well, I always favor a round of .243 right between the eyes for those roaches, and them spiders fold up like a cheap suit when you nail them with the 12-gauge."
it would be exciting.
who wants to write the screen play?
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boogberg Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:12:10pm |
What's a "PUMA"? Couldn't find it in the LGF Dictionary.
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3 wood Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:12:21pm |
re: #590 karmic_inquisitor
Rare that the SEC leads any investigation or action, IMO.
That is true. They've done nothing about Stephen Jobs back dating stock options to himself.
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:13:00pm |
re: #605 HDrepub
Do I want to know? Something tells me probably not.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:13:16pm |
re: #609 loflyer
BBL mates, me next-door neighbor is at the front door...
No... don't open that door... it's not your neighbor... it's Captian... too late.
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3 wood Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:13:28pm |
re: #593 loflyer
Arrrrr, Don't know anyone in the SEC, hopefully see some SEC lurker will see this post....
My hope too.
Yo! SEC! Wake up out there.
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:13:29pm |
Back. Had some cake (chocolate, though it's not a favourite).
I just heard a guest on B'OR try to challenge him. Much testosterone was in the air. Unlike his interview with Barack Obama...
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:13:46pm |
re: #613 boogberg
Party Unity My A$$ - from the Shillary supporters who jumped ship to McCain over Barry.
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:14:22pm |
re: #613 boogberg
What's a "PUMA"? Couldn't find it in the LGF Dictionary.
Hillary voters. Short for "Party Unity My Ass".
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:15:37pm |
re: #603 3 wood
Oh geez. O'Reilly is back on his speculation conspiracy crap again about oil prices.
Sigh. Cavuto tried to deal with him the other day, but as ever, in a crisis he just goes the populist route (which isn't conservative...).
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3 wood Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:15:54pm |
re: #606 StinkHammer
O'Reilly is an absolute populist ass on matters economic.
In addition to being a pompous ass in general. IMHO.
He knows better than this too. That's what I find really distasteful in this.
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:16:38pm |
re: #606 StinkHammer
In addition to being a pompous ass in general. IMHO.
Better O'Reilly, who has a moral centre, than Olbermann, who is a scary misanthropist.
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3 wood Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:17:02pm |
Gotta run
Later.
And again SEC, wake up out there.
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boogberg Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:17:26pm |
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:17:38pm |
re: #612 nyc redneck
it would be exciting.
who wants to write the screen play?
It was the best of times..it was the worst of times..who i am kidding?
It was the worst of times...
It was bad at night..the sounds..the insects..the monsters..yes it was always worse at night...
It wasn't just the cockroaches..No..It was the gangs of cockroches..east side, west side, the bloods..the crips..
Yes, It was the nighttime that was the nightmare..
Me..clinging to my guns..praying to God..clinging to Hope...
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:18:16pm |
re: #616 Walter L. Newton
No... don't open that door... it's not your neighbor... it's Captian... too late.
Walter. Yaaar, your BAD! It was just my neighbor dropping off dog food. They are going on vacation and I get to feed the dawgs. He does the same for me.
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:19:53pm |
re: #626 boogberg
re: #620 vbspurs
Lol! Thanks. :D
When I was watching this week's SNL, there was a skit called "Cougar Club" or some such. I didn't know what a Cougar was, until he explained they are older women looking for some hot young studs. There are even cougar dance clubs, where you can get you a moneyed mama.
The reason I mention this is, did this word Cougar play any role in choosing "PUMA"? Or is that a cat analogy too many?
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Tamron Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:20:07pm |
re: #467 kansas
Tamron is advocating some worthless remedy. Wanna get in on the Pyramid?
Sure! Tell me more!
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Tamron Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:21:04pm |
re: #610 ArmyWife
I just followed your link, and then got to the link I posted as an opposing view point. I am no scientist, nor am I a medical anything (well, I am married to a SF Medic, but I don't think that counts). I just clicked a few places and got to "nutty story of the day" and it was your article you posted. Much more clear now, isn't it?
LINKY, please?
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:21:55pm |
re: #629 loflyer
Walter. Yaaar, your BAD! It was just my neighbor dropping off dog food. They are going on vacation and I get to feed the dawgs. He does the same for me.
Aye... I hates those little yappers... always nipping at me ankles.
Ok, I'll save it for Holloween. LOL
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RTLM Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:22:15pm |
AP: Racism of white Dems may cost Obama the election.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
IE: "we're all racists"
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:23:16pm |
I'm depressed to find out that nothing has come of the Axelrod connection yet, but I shouldn't be surprised.
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walksatnight Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:23:34pm |
Stumbled across this book the other day. It's a new biography on Mr. Obama that I guess states that he is controlled by Zbigniew Brzezinski. The cover has a satanic look Ziggy as a puppet master. The price looks pretty high for something that looks like it was published in a dude's garage.
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ArmyWife Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:24:11pm |
re: #634 RTLM
Saw that. Love the quote from Mr. Clouse. Classy.
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:24:22pm |
re: #633 Walter L. Newton
Aye... I hates those little yappers... always nipping at me ankles.
Ok, I'll save it for Holloween. LOL
Yaaar, it's fun! You will have a good time with it Halloween! With your talents, you would put me to shame as a pirate! I am not an actor, just a pirate engineer....
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Perplexed Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:25:50pm |
re: #77 karmic_inquisitor
Hey - can't get to Jawa. Is it being attacked? They are used to Jihadi DOS attacks, but perhaps the Obamatons have been unleashed (many more zombied Obama supporters out there than zombied computers).
Everyone got home, saw what was going on and went over to have a look for themselves. I'm more concerned that a 'rat will exact revenge on Rusty.
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:25:55pm |
re: #618 vbspurs
Back. Had some cake (chocolate, though it's not a favourite).
I just heard a guest on B'OR try to challenge him. Much testosterone was in the air. Unlike his interview with Barack Obama...
yay, you had cake?
i ended up w/ fig bars.
they were fine.
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:26:22pm |
re: #639 loflyer
Yaaar, it's fun! You will have a good time with it Halloween! With your talents, you would put me to shame as a pirate! I am not an actor, just a pirate engineer....
Dont make me turn my government mind control ray device on you.............. Ya scalawag......
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stevieray Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:26:35pm |
Dems want $50 billion stimulus on top of $700 billion bailout
So, a looming financial crisis isn't enough to jar the Democrats out of their partisan, pork-eating ways. Nice.
This is a good opportunity for a new McCain ad:
"Here We Go Again"
"Stock markets dropping. Banks failing. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac need half a trillion in bailouts.
What is the Democrat answer? Demand a fifty billion dollar tack-on to send back to their home districts.
Back in 2005, I proposed a bill to add oversight to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, a bill that would have halted their risky loans before they hurt our country, but I was stopped by my Democratic colleagues.
There wasn't anything in it for them.
Now they try the same tactic again, holding America hostage for a few more dollars to send back home.
The last time they did this, it cost America one trillion dollars. How much will the bill be this time?"
A proposed McCain ad by stevieray.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:26:44pm |
re: #636 TheMatrix31
I'm depressed to find out that nothing has come of the Axelrod connection yet, but I shouldn't be surprised.
Well why not do what the left does?
make up as many lies as you possibly can and spread them over the Internet...The bigger the lie the better cause nobody clicks on a Sarah loves Todd link..But a link about todd's character..well sh*t ..thats a million hits...
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:27:41pm |
re: #641 nyc redneck
yay, you had cake?
i ended up w/ fig bars.
they were fine.
I actually did have cake -- the Chocolate Thunder or some such. It was yummy. Fig bars? Unusual!
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Outrider Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:28:08pm |
re: #517 ArmyWife
Water boarding might be a bit too far for kos kids. I am flexible, though. The panties shall come from walmart.
Why not? Probably be the first water touching some of their bodies in over a week.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:28:18pm |
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:28:34pm |
re: #647 buzzsawmonkey
Why's everybody always pecan on me?
--Charlie Brown
Charlie Brown = Obama
Lucy = Palin
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:29:03pm |
re: #646 vbspurs
I actually did have cake -- the Chocolate Thunder or some such. It was yummy. Fig bars? Unusual!
i shared them w/ my dog.
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:29:26pm |
re: #642 doriangrey
Dont make me turn my government mind control ray device on you.............. Ya scalawag......
Yaaar! Go for it! This was tried in the Clinton admin and didn't work. I have me trusty multi-tool and 12 guage! Stand and deliver!
/This is fun!
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:29:36pm |
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:29:37pm |
re: #402 loflyer
Yaaar, Perhaps the "traditionalist " white male makes the extra 17 grand because he worked his ass off for it. And needs the extra money because his wife is home with the kids raising them to be good Americans, and productive citizens.
Perhaps it never occurred to you that there are huge numbers of single parents (usually women) that work just as hard or harder than you. They have no one at home raising their kids to be good American citizens , that job falls on them as well. The extra $17,000 would go a long way to provide adequate day care, cover the necessities of life or even an occasional meal out with the kids and some of the other "extras" that you and your family enjoy.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:30:17pm |
re: #644 HoosierHoops
Well why not do what the left does?
make up as many lies as you possibly can and spread them over the Internet...The bigger the lie the better cause nobody clicks on a Sarah loves Todd link..But a link about todd's character..well sh*t ..thats a million hits...
Because they'll get all over the conservatives for doing something so "vile" and "heinous".
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:30:29pm |
Via Drudge -- Youtube of Bill Clinton talking of Hillary not wanting to be Obama's VP.
Bill and Hillary so want McCain/Palin to win it's not funny.
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:31:10pm |
re: #640 Perplexed
Everyone got home, saw what was going on and went over to have a look for themselves. I'm more concerned that a 'rat will exact revenge on Rusty.
Check out the updates.
Looks like Winner has copped to doing it, but the line of defense (after much lawyering all day, no doubt using the firm's resources) is that he did it all on his own.
Which enabled him to know about the post moments after it went up (even though it was the Obama campaign that was told to expect it, not the Winner firm) and enabled him to delete his and many co-worker's (including Daddy's) you tube accounts on a Sunday evening.
Yup. That is what the pre eminent crisis management team came up with after 18 hours, including interim "let me talk to our counsel before responding to your questions".
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:32:36pm |
re: #652 loflyer
Yaaar! Go for it! This was tried in the Clinton admin and didn't work. I have me trusty multi-tool and 12 guage! Stand and deliver!
/This is fun!
Ok... but don't say you didn't ask for it..... /begins turning crank to wind up the government mind control device...
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:33:11pm |
re: #654 twincitiesgirl
Perhaps it never occurred to you that there are huge numbers of single parents (usually women) that work just as hard or harder than you. They have no one at home raising their kids to be good American citizens , that job falls on them as well. The extra $17,000 would go a long way to provide adequate day care, cover the necessities of life or even an occasional meal out with the kids and some of the other "extras" that you and your family enjoy.
Yaar, Welcome back. Perhaps they should of made better educational and career choices before giving birth. Not being married doesn't help one bit...
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jwb7605 Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:33:21pm |
re: #606 StinkHammer
O'Reilly is an absolute populist ass on matters economic.
In addition to being a pompous ass in general. IMHO.
Indisputable.
I did like what he did with the NewSqueak editor, though.
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stevieray Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:33:38pm |
re: #649 loppyd
Thanks, loppyd!
I hope McCain approves something similar, and soon. The MSM is in full throated screeching lie-mode, pinning the economic problems on the Republicans. McCain's gotta turn that around and call them on it, often and hard. And since he actually did try to fix this back in '05, that message would stick.
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:34:33pm |
re: #660 loflyer
You aren't for real are you? Ever heard of the word divorce?
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:34:58pm |
re: #656 vbspurs
Via Drudge -- Youtube of Bill Clinton talking of Hillary not wanting to be Obama's VP.
Bill and Hillary so want McCain/Palin to win it's not funny.
the question is why would hillary want to help get this 'unqualified black male' elected and taint her own future?
(especially after she was so disrespected by these jerks)
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Tamron Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:34:58pm |
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:35:10pm |
re: #659 doriangrey
Ok... but don't say you didn't ask for it..... /begins turning crank to wind up the government mind control device...
Yaaar, (Drawing back and lifting grog) Give it your best shot, bilge-rat!
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:35:15pm |
re: #588 opinionated
Caroline Glick on the Palin disinvite. Rips Jewish Democrat activists a new one.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
opinionated -
Caroline Glick got the "who, what, when, where, WHY? totally nailed. Curtis Sliwa has it right - after this, any self-respecting Jew that votes for Sen. Obama should fall chest first on a Menorah and Impale Themselves.
-S-
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Geepers Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:35:26pm |
RTLM (#634),
AP: Racism of white Dems may cost Obama the election.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
The MSM is already setting up their "preferred" excuse for an Obama lose.
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Alberta Oil Peon Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:36:00pm |
re: #423 Tamron
You are citing the Guardian as a scientific authority? I'll give you a hint: real scientists don't speak of "prehistoric times" any more than real historians speak of "olden days".
Your tag line, "Hmmm. Sounds like somebody with a vested interest in the 'sickness' profession." ?
Simply reeks of Trooferism to me.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:36:07pm |
So now we find out that the Public Safety Commissioner fired by Sarah Palin also has a history of violence. If she had a (D) next to her name, the feminists would be championing her.
Violent Men at the Center of Troopergate
Monegan is the man who Democrats believe GOP vice presidential contender Sarah Palin improperly used her political power to fire over his alleged unwillingness to fire Palin's former brother-in-law, Wooten.
He recently admitted dislocating his wife's shoulder "by accident" by "wrestling and tickling" her according to the San Francisco Chronicle.
His estranged wife Georgene Moldovan, however, tells it a little differently.
Moldovan said she sought a restraining order against Monegan in 1994 after he threatened to kill her, waved a gun at her and knocked her shoulder out of socket, according to court papers. The court papers say: "he pulled out his gun and waved it at me outside my home and yelled he would kill me if I stopped him."
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kevinmumaw Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:36:16pm |
Army Unit to Deploy in October for Domestic Operations
So says the headline...which is false, as the story below the headline indicates.
Beginning in October, the Army plans to station an active unit inside the United States for the first time to serve as an on-call federal response in times of emergency. The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent thirty-five of the last sixty months in Iraq, but now the unit is training for domestic operations. The unit will soon be under the day-to-day control of US Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command. The Army Times reports this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to Northern Command. The paper says the Army unit may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control. The soldiers are learning to use so-called nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals and crowds.
1) 3rd Infantry is based at Ft Benning, Georgia, (the state, not the country, as Democracy Now! apparently believes.) So how is it you can say that the army plans to station a unit inside the US, when it has always been stationed in the US?
2) This is not the first time we have had an active duty unit assigned as on-call QRF (Quick Reaction Force) for duty within the US. When I was in the 101st as a staff officer, I distinctly recall one of our BCTs (4th, I think) drawing CONUS (Continental US) QRF duty. I believe they had a TACON (Tactical Control) relationship with NORTHCOM. And when the 4th BCT/101st was done with their QRF duty, it rotated to another unit. Repeat until today. Apparently this is all news to the Moonbats. So it is either incompetence or lies that would lead someone to believe this. I am leaning towards incompetence, since I am not overly impressed with the rational thinking skills of Moonbats, nor am I impressed with their knowledge of anything military. Although with all the astroturf/Winner & Associates/David Axelrod talk the last 24 hours, I guess either could be true.
3) If 4th BCT/101st didn't lead the long-planned Bush coup, I guess 3rd ID is. Moonbats deserve to be made fun of. They really are that dumb.
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:36:16pm |
re: #656 vbspurs
Bill and Hillary so want McCain/Palin to win it's not funny.
God, I hate Bill Clinton. And I hate him because every time he speaks, I keep thinking what a brilliant politician he is.
He actually tamed those harpies of The View with a sober analysis of the situation, to which they had no reply. And for Joy Behar not to have a moronic comeback, no matter how pointless, is some kind of miracle.
Only Reagan had these disarming political instincts in my lifetime.
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sngnsgt Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:36:46pm |
You've got to kidding me:
Dukakis: McCain using same race tactics as ‘Willie Horton’ ad
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:36:58pm |
re: #663 twincitiesgirl
In addition the whole point of the post was the continued inequity of pay--so even if "they" had made the exact same career and birthing choices as you they would be penalized because they were female.
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:37:24pm |
Her is my ad:
They cheered for Hurricanes.
They cheered for the enemy.
Now they cheer for the collapse of the world banking system.
All to play the blame game so they can regain power.
A high price to pay - but they don't have to pay it - you do.
The Democrats
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:37:25pm |
re: #666 loflyer
Yaaar, (Drawing back and lifting grog) Give it your best shot, bilge-rat!
Already did, you scurvy dog.... Seems to be working just fine.... More grog for you says the government mind control ray device..........
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:37:32pm |
re: #663 twincitiesgirl
You aren't for real are you? Ever heard of the word divorce?
/Yaar, like four years ago. and just got over it. I work for a local government and the women are paid exactly as the men, and do not have to lift anything heavy. Next question?
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:38:29pm |
re: #664 nyc redneck
the question is why would hillary want to help get this 'unqualified black male' elected and taint her own future?
(especially after she was so disrespected by these jerks)
Well, I'm not sure what the scare quote is really about, but I would say you got the reason exactly right -- she wouldn't. If she would really, she would've managed to get on the ticket by hook or crook.
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Tamron Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:38:59pm |
re: #637 walksatnight
Stumbled across this book the other day. It's a new biography on Mr. Obama that I guess states that he is controlled by Zbigniew Brzezinski. The cover has a satanic look Ziggy as a puppet master. The price looks pretty high for something that looks like it was published in a dude's garage.
What a strange coincidence. Check out this photo of Zbigniew Brzezinski with Osama Bin Laden.
.
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:39:00pm |
re: #667 Dr. Shalit
opinionated -
Caroline Glick got the "who, what, when, where, WHY? totally nailed. Curtis Sliwa has it right - after this, any self-respecting Jew that votes for Sen. Obama should fall chest first on a Menorah and Impale Themselves.
-S-
Hmmmm One would think that Democrat and self-respecting Jew would be factual oxymoron's.........
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loppyd Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:39:11pm |
re: #662 stevieray
Thanks, loppyd!
I hope McCain approves something similar, and soon. The MSM is in full throated screeching lie-mode, pinning the economic problems on the Republicans. McCain's gotta turn that around and call them on it, often and hard. And since he actually did try to fix this back in '05, that message would stick.
He'll have an ad out soon enough. And I'm sure he will be happy to remind the viewing audience of this at the debate.....I know it's on foreign policy, but it's bound to come up.
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:39:26pm |
re: #677 loflyer
Good for the women where you work, too bad that isn't the case everywhere--
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kcladderman Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:39:51pm |
re: #674 twincitiesgirl
Women in my profession are payed exactly the same as males with the same seniority.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:39:57pm |
re: #660 loflyer
Yaar, Welcome back. Perhaps they should of made better educational and career choices before giving birth. Not being married doesn't help one bit...
WTF?
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:40:25pm |
re: #679 Tamron
What a strange coincidence. Check out this photo of Zbigniew Brzezinski with Osama Bin Laden.
Wow, why does Osama Bin Laden look like F. Murray Abraham?
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:40:46pm |
re: #682 twincitiesgirl
Good for the women where you work, too bad that isn't the case everywhere--
Women tend to make more than men in my industry...........
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Knitwit Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:40:55pm |
re: #580 J.S.
So that's why I haven't watched him in quite awhile!
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:41:03pm |
re: #652 loflyer
Yaaar! Go for it! This was tried in the Clinton admin and didn't work. I have me trusty multi-tool and 12 guage! Stand and deliver!
/This is fun!
Dear Doriangrey..my man..this loflyer person has been having such fun this last week talking pirate...
I'll lure him in and you give him indain burns till he stops :)
/really loflyer.. It has been fun..why not have monday talking like an indian support tech? Tuesday..A british navy officer..weds.. A chinese olympic gymnatics judge..Thurs.. An Imman with issues..fri..An imman with real bad issues at 5pm..
Sat. a gay pirate...( it could be really funny)
/am i in trouble..I'm just tryiing to be funny
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stevieray Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:41:20pm |
re: #668 Geepers
RTLM (#634),
The MSM is already setting up their "preferred" excuse for an Obama lose.
Or a heavy dose of guilt to get an Obama victory?
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Outrider Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:41:34pm |
re: #671 kevinmumaw
Army Unit to Deploy in October for Domestic Operations
So says the headline...which is false, as the story below the headline indicates.
1) 3rd Infantry is based at Ft Benning, Georgia, (the state, not the country, as Democracy Now! apparently believes.) So how is it you can say that the army plans to station a unit inside the US, when it has always been stationed in the US?
2) This is not the first time we have had an active duty unit assigned as on-call QRF (Quick Reaction Force) for duty within the US. When I was in the 101st as a staff officer, I distinctly recall one of our BCTs (4th, I think) drawing CONUS (Continental US) QRF duty. I believe they had a TACON (Tactical Control) relationship with NORTHCOM. And when the 4th BCT/101st was done with their QRF duty, it rotated to another unit. Repeat until today. Apparently this is all news to the Moonbats. So it is either incompetence or lies that would lead someone to believe this. I am leaning towards incompetence, since I am not overly impressed with the rational thinking skills of Moonbats, nor am I impressed with their knowledge of anything military. Although with all the astroturf/Winner & Associates/David Axelrod talk the last 24 hours, I guess either could be true.
3) If 4th BCT/101st didn't lead the long-planned Bush coup, I guess 3rd ID is. Moonbats deserve to be made fun of. They really are that dumb.
3d Infantry Division is here at Fort Stewart. Still in Georgia, but on the other side of the state. 3d ID does have one Brigade over to Benning. The Infantry school, Airborne and Ranger schools are at Benning as is OCS.
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:41:51pm |
re: #682 twincitiesgirl
Good for the women where you work, too bad that isn't the case everywhere--
Could I be so bold as to ask your political ideology and affiliation?
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:42:20pm |
re: #683 kcladderman
Again, I 'm happy the women where you work are paid the same as the men, too bad that isn't true everywhere.
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:43:44pm |
re: #688 HoosierHoops
Dear Doriangrey..my man..this loflyer person has been having such fun this last week talking pirate...
I'll lure him in and you give him indain burns till he stops :)
/really loflyer.. It has been fun..why not have monday talking like an indian support tech? Tuesday..A british navy officer..weds.. A chinese olympic gymnatics judge..Thurs.. An Imman with issues..fri..An imman with real bad issues at 5pm..
Sat. a gay pirate...( it could be really funny)
/am i in trouble..I'm just tryiing to be funny
Arrr, Hoosier, I will be glad to stop talking pirate, but everyone seems into it.. I am too.
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:43:54pm |
re: #670 loppyd
So now we find out that the Public Safety Commissioner fired by Sarah Palin also has a history of violence. If she had a (D) next to her name, the feminists would be championing her.
Violent Men at the Center of Troopergate
Monegan is the man who Democrats believe GOP vice presidential contender Sarah Palin improperly used her political power to fire over his alleged unwillingness to fire Palin's former brother-in-law, Wooten.He recently admitted dislocating his wife's shoulder "by accident" by "wrestling and tickling" her according to the San Francisco Chronicle.
His estranged wife Georgene Moldovan, however, tells it a little differently.
Moldovan said she sought a restraining order against Monegan in 1994 after he threatened to kill her, waved a gun at her and knocked her shoulder out of socket, according to court papers. The court papers say: "he pulled out his gun and waved it at me outside my home and yelled he would kill me if I stopped him."
Reminds me of this asshole who broke his wife's neck, and told me--a REPORTER--that it was an accident 'cause his wife liked "kinky sex". Needless to say, I didn't report what that bastard said.
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kevinmumaw Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:43:58pm |
re: #690 Outrider
I knew they were split, couldn't remember the name of Fort Stewart. Yeah, I spent a good amount of time at Benning, BCT, OCS, Jump School, Ranger, IOBC. I was infantry until I switched to CA this year. Sand Hill....yuck.
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loppyd Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:44:07pm |
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:44:07pm |
re: #688 HoosierHoops
Dear Doriangrey..my man..this loflyer person has been having such fun this last week talking pirate...
I'll lure him in and you give him indain burns till he stops :)
/really loflyer.. It has been fun..why not have monday talking like an indian support tech? Tuesday..A british navy officer..weds.. A chinese olympic gymnatics judge..Thurs.. An Imman with issues..fri..An imman with real bad issues at 5pm..
Sat. a gay pirate...( it could be really funny)
/am i in trouble..I'm just tryiing to be funny
How about cause... Um... there is no talk like a.... indian support tech, british navy officer, chinese olympic gymnatics judge, An Imman with issues, An imman with real bad issues, or a a gay pirate day, while there is a Talk like a pirate day.................... Which I whole heatedly support....
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:44:36pm |
re: #686 doriangrey
Really? If it isn't too invasive to ask, what industry is that? And if you say strip clubs I'll scream.
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:44:54pm |
This is interesting. Joe Biden being interviewed by Couric -- he disagrees with Obama's ad on McCain's "email" issues.
First he goes after Obama about his guns, now he thinks that ad was "terrible" (look at his expression, it's genuine).
Are we seeing the lead-up to his timely resignation as VP nominee?
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loppyd Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:45:18pm |
re: #695 MandyManners
Reminds me of this asshole who broke his wife's neck, and told me--a REPORTER--that it was an accident 'cause his wife liked "kinky sex". Needless to say, I didn't report what that bastard said.
There is a special place in hell reserved for men like him.
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JacksonTn Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:45:42pm |
This may be the voice over woman.
Shock? She is from Chicago.
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
I listened to both the smear video and her commercial on her site sounds the same to me.
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Outrider Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:46:13pm |
re: #697 loppyd
Thank you for your service!
My dad was 3d ID, stationed in Germany.
For sure. The 3d ID colors were brought to the US. The old 24th ID was redesignated as the 3d ID a few years back. They still go by "Rock of the Marne"
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:46:54pm |
re: #693 twincitiesgirl
Again, I 'm happy the women where you work are paid the same as the men, too bad that isn't true everywhere.
Like Iran, Pakistan, or Malasia just to start the list. You seem terribly upset with income inequity in America while your fellow females are killed weekly in Islamic "honor killings". Genital mutilation of Islamic females happen daily, what are you views on the issues?
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doppelganglander Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:48:02pm |
re: #654 twincitiesgirl
Are you suggesting that the money someone else earns to support his family should be taken from him and given to a single mom out of some misguided sense of fairness? Since you hang out at LGF, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say no.
Earnings are the end result of a long series of personal, educational and lifestyle choices. Some choices pay off, and others leave you in the poorhouse. Time and chance happeneth to us all, and some folks find themselves in difficult circumstances through no fault of their own.
If you feel you are underpaid for the work you do, you have choices. You can find a place that pays more for the same work. You can improve your skills or get more training so you're worth more. You can speak up and ask for a raise. If you're operating under the assumption that some evil male cabal is paying women less than men for the same work, you must have discovered the Wayback Machine set to 1965.
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:48:04pm |
re: #677 loflyer
/Yaar, like four years ago. and just got over it. I work for a local government and the women are paid exactly as the men, and do not have to lift anything heavy. Next question?
"lo" -
I can "Walk Like an Egyptian" - Talking like a Pirate is a new thing. It does, however remind me of my first "Real" job in a Supermarket. Could ring an NCR Cash Register (like Pre - Electronic AND Bar Code) and bag Groceries faster than any of the women and unload trucks with the best of the men. With all of that - I was still paid "Minimum Wage" - guess they got their money's worth out of my labor.
-S-
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:48:26pm |
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:48:53pm |
re: #703 JacksonTn
See my post at #601 above for another candidate voice.
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Outrider Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:49:23pm |
re: #696 kevinmumaw
I knew they were split, couldn't remember the name of Fort Stewart. Yeah, I spent a good amount of time at Benning, BCT, OCS, Jump School, Ranger, IOBC. I was infantry until I switched to CA this year. Sand Hill....yuck.
I did the Airborne and Pathfinder there years back. Strangely enough, I don't really miss any part of Benning.
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:49:25pm |
re: #699 twincitiesgirl
Really? If it isn't too invasive to ask, what industry is that? And if you say strip clubs I'll scream.
Government mind control ray device construction.... Also known as the Composites Industry. (We make communications satellites for the Government and Private industry)
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:49:25pm |
re: #701 vbspurs
This is interesting. Joe Biden being interviewed by Couric -- he disagrees with Obama's ad on McCain's "email" issues.
First he goes after Obama about his guns, now he thinks that ad was "terrible" (look at his expression, it's genuine).
Are we seeing the lead-up to his timely resignation as VP nominee?
I am starting to think so.
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:49:32pm |
re: #672 vbspurs
you're right abt. slick willie,
when i heard the perv lauding sarah palin, i was stunned at how, i could sense his salacious sexual innuendo but still felt the real above board complimentary nuance of his statement.
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:50:15pm |
re: #706 doppelganglander
see my original post
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loflyer Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:51:29pm |
re: #707 Dr. Shalit
"lo" -
I can "Walk Like an Egyptian" - Talking like a Pirate is a new thing. It does, however remind me of my first "Real" job in a Supermarket. Could ring an NCR Cash Register (like Pre - Electronic AND Bar Code) and bag Groceries faster than any of the women and unload trucks with the best of the men. With all of that - I was still paid "Minimum Wage" - guess they got their money's worth out of my labor.
-S-
Yaar the good pay is not in institutional labor, the money is in your brains. Use it wisely mate....
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vbspurs Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:51:41pm |
re: #712 karmic_inquisitor
I am starting to think so.
Dammit, this sucks. I've never believed in a conspiracy theory in my life. But October 5th is very near...
(I don't really believe it. But it's interesting, isn't it, how things are panning out)
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Outrider Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:52:03pm |
re: #715 yochanan
was at ft benning for 4 years.
ouch. I'm sorry. ;-)> When I was assigned to Ft Stewart, we used to deploy to Benning frequently for field training. That was always fun; Benning being much drier than Stewart.
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:53:02pm |
re: #711 doriangrey
hmmmm...so why do women make more?
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MandyManners Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:53:50pm |
re: #702 loppyd
There is a special place in hell reserved for men like him.
I got wind of his threat to go finish the job while she was in ICU. I stepped out of my role as a reporter and let the authorities know.
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:54:39pm |
re: #708 twincitiesgirl
Everyone understands unions, seniority and etc as reasons for pay inequities but my original post was this.
The crux of the TIME article is the definition of "same kind of work."
A study of one corporation in which comparisons between two employees in the same job can be made directly would be one thing; this sounds entirely different. There is no claim made that the researchers compared people within the same industry, much less the same firm.
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Geepers Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:54:44pm |
stevieray (#689),
I think that the press realizes at this point that nobody that isn't already voting for Obama can be "guilted" into with the race card.
If you look at the entirety of the results there are some pretty daunting revelations for Obama.
Especially:
Race is not the biggest factor driving Democrats and independents away from Obama. Doubts about his competency loom even larger, the poll indicates. More than a quarter of all Democrats expressed doubt that Obama can bring about the change they want, and they are likely to vote against him because of that.
And:
Just 59 percent of [Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's] white Democratic supporters said they wanted Obama to be president. Nearly 17 percent of Clinton's white backers plan to vote for McCain.
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kcladderman Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:54:48pm |
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:55:04pm |
re: #722 loflyer
Well I think the same about you, only I would add that I think you've been drinking.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:58:11pm |
re: #563 ArmyWife
Yay to your son. Those boys in uniform - they are something else.
ArmyWife -that was HoosierHoops son ( I have one daughter).
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:58:28pm |
re: #693 twincitiesgirl
Again, I 'm happy the women where you work are paid the same as the men, too bad that isn't true everywhere.
"tc-Girl" -
Without question, women should be paid the same as men for same/comparable work. Where the skew comes is generally in the area of tenure. I wrote the MA, Labor Relations, paper for my Ex-Wife, under HER name on this subject. Bottom line is that Women are more likely to have a "W" pattern in the workplace. In short, an "in, out, in, out, in" resume in response to the birth of their children. How and if this should be remedied, I do not exactly know, ideas please.
-S-
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Outrider Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:58:34pm |
re: #724 yochanan
well i was a army brat
Scout camp or the like? Those old wooden billets were something. I've been informed they have all been torn down now?
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:58:58pm |
re: #705 loflyer
I thought this was an open thread and I only posted what I did cause I thought it was interesting. Who made you God and arbitrator of what I or anyone else can post here?
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 5:59:16pm |
re: #712 karmic_inquisitor
If Biden drops off the ticket:
a) how does that help portray Obama as having the judgment and discernment necessary to be President? Can't even pick a decent running mate -- sheesh!
b) who would possibly replace Biden that would turn things around? And don't say Hillary -- that would entail her acting against her self-interest in the worst possible way. If the Obama-Hillary ticket won, she'd be locked out of a run for the top job in 2012, and if they lost, she's done nothing to rebuild her reputation as a winner (came in second to Obama, came in second to Sarah).
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kevinmumaw Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:00:09pm |
re: #710 Outrider
I did the Airborne and Pathfinder there years back. Strangely enough, I don't really miss any part of Benning.
There is nothing to miss at Benning. It is hell on Earth. I went down from heat exhaustion at midnight. That's how hot it is in August.
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stuiec Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:00:31pm |
re: #732 Dr. Shalit
"tc-Girl" -
Without question, women should be paid the same as men for same/comparable work. Where the skew comes is generally in the area of tenure. I wrote the MA, Labor Relations, paper for my Ex-Wife, under HER name on this subject. Bottom line is that Women are more likely to have a "W" pattern in the workplace. In short, an "in, out, in, out, in" resume in response to the birth of their children. How and if this should be remedied, I do not exactly know, ideas please.
-S-
Marry an Iron Man snow machine champion -- that seems to work well.
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Perplexed Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:00:42pm |
re: #657 karmic_inquisitor
Check out the updates.
Looks like Winner has copped to doing it, but the line of defense (after much lawyering all day, no doubt using the firm's resources) is that he did it all on his own.
Which enabled him to know about the post moments after it went up (even though it was the Obama campaign that was told to expect it, not the Winner firm) and enabled him to delete his and many co-worker's (including Daddy's) you tube accounts on a Sunday evening.
Yup. That is what the pre eminent crisis management team came up with after 18 hours, including interim "let me talk to our counsel before responding to your questions".
Hmmm, so they were keeping an eye on the web? Sounds like lots of eyes. Their efforts at damage control will wind up costing them more than just one or two supporters. The American people don't like folks doing stuff like the Winners. This whole thing is beginning to sound like a bad episode of Willey Coyote vs the Road Runner where everything the coyote does comes back to haunt him.
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Outrider Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:00:44pm |
re: #735 stuiec
If Biden drops off the ticket:
a) how does that help portray Obama as having the judgment and discernment necessary to be President? Can't even pick a decent running mate -- sheesh!
b) who would possibly replace Biden that would turn things around? And don't say Hillary -- that would entail her acting against her self-interest in the worst possible way. If the Obama-Hillary ticket won, she'd be locked out of a run for the top job in 2012, and if they lost, she's done nothing to rebuild her reputation as a winner (came in second to Obama, came in second to Sarah).
Not to mention Sen Obama couldn't have her in second place. She is much stronger than he is and he knows it. Everyone would look to her.
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doppelganglander Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:01:16pm |
re: #714 twincitiesgirl
The original article is also full of false assumptions. Both men and women with traditional attitudes, as Time patronizingly calls them, are likely to order their lives so they can live in fulfillment of their wishes, just like anyone else. Women who value the role of stay-at-home mom are likely to restrict their work hours, or work below their professional capacity, while their children are young. Men who feel the same way will work harder and/or at higher-paying jobs so they can afford for their wives to stay home. The foolishness here is attributing the effect (salary disparities) to anything other than personal choices made by individuals based on their values. The article goes into all kinds of nonsensical speculation about employers treating women differently based on "conservative dress and hairstyles." This is just more claptrap from the gender grievance industry. If you feel underpaid, you'd be a lot better off dealing with factors under your control, as I mentioned previously.
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:01:38pm |
re: #716 loflyer
Yaar the good pay is not in institutional labor, the money is in your brains. Use it wisely mate....
"lo" -
At age 17-18 - it was all testosterone, balls out and pedal to the metal. I have gotten older for sure, wiser perhaps.
-S-
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Outrider Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:01:48pm |
re: #736 kevinmumaw
There is nothing to miss at Benning. It is hell on Earth. I went down from heat exhaustion at midnight. That's how hot it is in August.
lol Tell me about it. I still live in Georgia, albeit on the Fort Stewart side.
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:01:49pm |
re: #728 twincitiesgirl
just curious to know how you are doing; speaking from personal experience?
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:02:12pm |
re: #720 twincitiesgirl
hmmmm...so why do women make more?
It has to do with the types of work skills. Carbon fiber composites are extremely tricky to assemble, they require an enormous amount of concentration to very minute details. Misalignment of a weave layer by even a fraction of an inch can ruin a multi-thousand dollar part. The work is tedious boring and very time consuming and has very little room for error.
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Tamron Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:02:33pm |
re: #669 Alberta Oil Peon
You are citing the Guardian as a scientific authority? I'll give you a hint: real scientists don't speak of "prehistoric times" any more than real historians speak of "olden days".
Your tag line, "Hmmm. Sounds like somebody with a vested interest in the 'sickness' profession." ? Simply reeks of Trooferism to me.
Arrrr, them's fighting words, matey! We're probably about equal in the 'reeking' department. Lighten up. That witch-hunt won't fly.
C'mon, Alberta, didn't you even check THIS LINK in my above reference? Chill out. Do some of your own researching along this line and contribute towards the positive side, instead of contributing to this stupid trend of making LGF look like a bunch of negative rats in a sack.
This is a request for a more fair discourse. What's so disturbing about a discussion regarding the positive health aspects of getting a little more oxygen in your system? Sheesh!
.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:03:39pm |
re: #734 twincitiesgirl
I thought this was an open thread and I only posted what I did cause I thought it was interesting. Who made you God and arbitrator of what I or anyone else can post here?
It's cool twincities..I'm sure it's just a misunderstanding..
I've always enjoyed your comments..This Lizard thinks you are good people..
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:05:39pm |
Sorry--the phone rang so I missed a few posts. My original intent was to post a link that I found interesting, nothing more.
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kcladderman Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:07:06pm |
re: #747 Outrider
A twofer deal. lol
I can picture Obama knocking on the locked Oval Office doors, Come on guysI'm the Presidentlet me in!
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:07:51pm |
re: #745 doriangrey
I appreciate your polite and thoughtful answers. Your job must be nerve wracking--how do you relax?
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:08:28pm |
re: #744 nyc redneck
not sure what you're asking me...
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:08:36pm |
re: #737 stuiec
Marry an Iron Man snow machine champion -- that seems to work well.
stuie -
You have it at least Half-Right. With a "Family-Guy" like Todd Palin - It Works.
Todd Palin is comfortable "in his clothes." Not every man is. If you accept your female S.O. as a Full Partner -Yes. If you see her as Chattel - NO!
-s-
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:12:03pm |
re: #752 twincitiesgirl
I appreciate your polite and thoughtful answers. Your job must be nerve wracking--how do you relax?
I reprogram the government mind control ray devices to make people drink grog (beer) and talk like a pirate on the internet.... :)
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:13:09pm |
re: #721 buzzsawmonkey
Not at all, and I'm not sure why you're being hostile. I didn't say you said unions, but unions do require pay structured in a certain way--based on seniority and other factors.
No where did I imply that laziness should be rewarded, or that someone less qualified should be hired only because they are a woman. I think you chose to ignore the point of the article.
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:14:01pm |
re: #745 doriangrey
It has to do with the types of work skills. Carbon fiber composites are extremely tricky to assemble, they require an enormous amount of concentration to very minute details. Misalignment of a weave layer by even a fraction of an inch can ruin a multi-thousand dollar part. The work is tedious boring and very time consuming and has very little room for error.
dorian -
And now you see how the Japanese rose and nearly economically conquered the world, even without "equal pay" - H/T to the "Japanese Shop Girl" - the unsung heroine of late 20th Century Economics.
-S-
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Tamron Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:14:31pm |
re: #735 stuiec
If the Obama-Hillary ticket won, she'd be locked out of a run for the top job in 2012
Troofer Viewpoint: Remember, at that point Hillary would only be one heartbeat away from the Presidency, after which time she could pardon all of her friends for everything they've ever done wrong.
Arrrr...
.
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:15:00pm |
re: #757 twincitiesgirl
You did a great job on loflyer!
Heh heh heh there is a reason its called rocket science..... ;)
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doppelganglander Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:16:20pm |
re: #748 buzzsawmonkey
The Time article actually reads less like an assessment of earning power than a hit-piece on "traditional attitudes," whatever they are supposed to be.
If Heather had two genders, everything would be ginger-peachy and the earth would smell of roses forevermore.
Of course. The whole thing just frosts me because I stayed married when it wasn't fun. I stayed home with my kids or worked part time when they were small even though we needed the money and I would've preferred to be doing something else. I went back to school in my 30's, got a degree and have been in my profession making very good money for the last 8 years. I've also got a strong marriage and 3 bright, intelligent, happy children (two grown and one teen). Sometimes doing it the old-fashioned way actually works.
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doriangrey Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:17:05pm |
re: #758 Dr. Shalit
dorian -
And now you see how the Japanese rose and nearly economically conquered the world, even without "equal pay" - H/T to the "Japanese Shop Girl" - the unsung heroine of late 20th Century Economics.
-S-
Not to mention that many many of those Japanese Shop Girl's are seriously wicked little hotties..........................................
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:17:37pm |
re: #749 HoosierHoops
thank you..I was feeling a little picked on, or at least all alone out here.
/that and my phone won't stop ringing!
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:20:03pm |
re: #753 twincitiesgirl
not sure what you're asking me...
if you're in a job where you are not being paid fairly?
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:21:20pm |
re: #764 nyc redneck
No, but it's happened to me in the past and I've seen it happen to others.
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kevinmumaw Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:21:57pm |
Got my absentee ballot today...think I'll vote for Brian Moore
No, not really. What kind of a loser runs for president a(n) admitted Socialist?
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twincitiesgirl Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:28:11pm |
re: #765 buzzsawmonkey
I was merely pointing out that women in the same job often are paid at different rates, even though they are ostensibly doing the same job and even though the higher-paid person is far worse at her job than the lower-paid person.
I'm not a lawyer so I do tend to add extraneous thoughts in my reply to clarify a point. I certainly have no argument with what you've said. You've chosen to interpret what I've said in a hostile way, that's your choice. I'm not in the frame of mind right now to get into a pointless argument with someone who has their mind made up.
Now I'll go into the little box you made for me and leave you alone.
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jamgarr Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:31:23pm |
re: #768 buzzsawmonkey
Brian Moore, Brian Moore, riding through the night...
--Monty Python
Your lupines or your life!
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kevinmumaw Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:35:46pm |
re: #770 twincitiesgirl
I hadn't really read your previous posts until now...you have a point, no need to apologize, if that is for me to say (?). My mom raised me and my sister as a single mom, not by her choice, but because dad cheated. She's had a rough life and has aged beyond her years, working as hard if not harder than others for less. Just anecdotal, I know, but as my peers complain about their doting moms, I still remember my mom as the one who snuck me a dollar (behind my dad's back) when I was 7 years old to buy a F-86 SuperSabre airplane model kit I was saving up for.
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nyc redneck Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:36:06pm |
re: #766 twincitiesgirl
No, but it's happened to me in the past and I've seen it happen to others.
happened to my sister too, single, three kids.
there's help out there.
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williwonka Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:37:37pm |
Perhaps Winner is telling the truth. But if he is not he eventually may have to name the agency and his principal contact at the agency. Then the normal billing cycle at the agency will be subject to review.
Has Winner used the agency in the past? How soon did they usually bill him after providing their services.?
What is his contact version of why the specific voice over person was hired?
Many other questions, but I would ask him if he remembers an old saying.
"What a tangled web we weave, when once we practice to deceive."
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Perplexed Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:41:44pm |
I once hired into a job making more than the people who already worked there. Boss made it clear that discussing specific numbers for wages was a no-no. This really depends on the company what they want to pay you and as such is negotiated when hiring in. Back in the mid 90's my wife got a job where she was paid around $6 an hour. Her job? Designer/drafter in a small S. E. Kansas town. She had been making more than $22 an hour in DFW. Was that fair? No, but they did things like that to both men and women in Kansas and she was told that she was lucky to be making that much.
Pay discrepancies do exist and they exist for both men and women. You most likely will never get a monster pay raise, so the best you can usually do is to get the most you can upon hiring.
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Alberta Oil Peon Mon, Sep 22, 2008 6:46:21pm |
re: #746 Tamron
Arrrr, them's fighting words, matey! We're probably about equal in the 'reeking' department. Lighten up. That witch-hunt won't fly.
C'mon, Alberta, didn't you even check THIS LINK in my above reference? Chill out. Do some of your own researching along this line and contribute towards the positive side, instead of contributing to this stupid trend of making LGF look like a bunch of negative rats in a sack.
This is a request for a more fair discourse. What's so disturbing about a discussion regarding the positive health aspects of getting a little more oxygen in your system? Sheesh!
.
According to your link, Dr. Berner's current research deals with a spike in oxygen levels during the Carboniferous-Permian transition. That was about 300 million years ago, long before the advent of humans, or even dinosaurs. I fail to see the relevance to the state of atmospheric oxygen today, or to human health. But it does sound like the bafflegab put forth by the promoters of dubious products in order to suck in the unwary.
You ask about the "positive health benefits" of "getting a little more oxygen in your system." Well, first off, it's far from clear that swigging oxygenated water or a solution of peroxides will do a damn thing to increase blood oxygen levels, which is what it's all about. (A hyperbaric chamber will do that, and can be useful for people who are truly needing additional oxygen.) It's also funny as Hell to read the ad copy for that mouse pee, and see it touted as an "antioxidant" when it's packed with dissolved oxygen and peroxides.
When you start talking about the "sickness industry" as a descriptor of the medical profession and/or pharmaceutical industry, well, that's getting into conspiracy theorist territory.
Maybe you aren't actually peddling this product (which I am about 99% certain is worthless, based simply on how it is promoted), but the very fact that you would recommend such snake oil to a fellow Lizard is worrying me.
I think you'd better get your BS detector into the shop, stat!
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Wyatt Earp Mon, Sep 22, 2008 8:07:54pm |
Stonehenge "solved?"
Karl Rove did it.
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Timbre Mon, Sep 22, 2008 8:53:27pm |
I'm not happy. Once again, rock maestros RUSH were snubbed by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
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twincitiesgirl Tue, Sep 23, 2008 1:19:38am |
re: #776 Perplexed
Back in the mid 90's my wife got a job where she was paid around $6 an hour. Her job? Designer/drafter in a small S. E. Kansas town. She had been making more than $22 an hour in DFW. Was that fair? No, but they did things like that to both men and women in Kansas and she was told that she was lucky to be making that much
I had a similar experience when relocating to another part of the country. Wages can vary a lot from one region to another. One thing I didn't get a chance to mention is that my husband has been "discriminated" against in hiring/promotions throughout his career. In most of these cases he lost out to women. Many times the hiring managers told him that he was the the most qualified candidate, both in education and experience (he has a Masters degree in Business Administration) but they had hiring quotas they had to fill based on race and gender.
I know life is full of inequities, that doesn't mean we should ignore them or pretend they don't exist. Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin each made reference to the "glass ceiling" they've experienced during their careers. I think they are both very strong women and certainly have no reason to make a statement like this if it wasn't true.
Throughout my life I've been blessed to make more than the average person, both through hard work and perseverance. However, when I became a single parent, (through no fault of my own), I had to scramble to make a decent life for my kids and I. Women that do this successfully deserve respect, not condescending platitudes about how they should have lived their lives differently.
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